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| 00:01.08 | m1lkc0w | I have a strange problem with kdm (3.5.1) on my FreeBSD box. The keyboard sometimes seems to block for ~20 seconds or I get wrong characters on the screen. When reverting back to xdm all is fine. |
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| 00:07.17 | main2 | uhhhm guys, the task items in my kde-toolbar became really small |
| 00:07.30 | _otto | #join |
| 00:07.33 | main2 | as in width.. < they are 2cm width each now |
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| 00:07.51 | main2 | how can i get them back in their original proportions..? |
| 00:08.53 | pinotree | main2: right click on a toolbar -> icon size -> default |
| 00:09.03 | _otto | #quit |
| 00:09.15 | Ringwraith` | #exit |
| 00:09.37 | Ringwraith` | /quit |
| 00:10.38 | main2 | pinotree: im talking about the taskbar |
| 00:10.43 | main2 | sry, i said it wrong |
| 00:10.57 | main2 | the items in my taskbar are not as width as they used to be |
| 00:11.53 | pinotree | what's the issue? |
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| 00:15.29 | main2 | http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/8122/snapshot37sk.png |
| 00:16.16 | main2 | you see how small they are.. in width |
| 00:16.22 | pinotree | mm.. |
| 00:16.39 | pinotree | you move a bit the taskbar on the right and move back to the original position? |
| 00:16.41 | main2 | from one moment to the other, i dont understand this |
| 00:16.44 | pinotree | if you ... |
| 00:17.28 | main2 | i moved the bar to all window sides ;) |
| 00:17.31 | main2 | nothing changed |
| 00:18.56 | main2 | weird huh |
| 00:19.06 | main2 | and heavy annoying... |
| 00:19.06 | pinotree | weird, because the taskbar expands as much as possible |
| 00:19.17 | main2 | i can restart my kde.. |
| 00:21.09 | main2 | brbbrb |
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| 00:22.56 | main2 | its back to normal now |
| 00:22.57 | main2 | :) |
| 00:23.19 | pinotree | hehe |
| 00:23.37 | main2 | you expected me to test this before asking? |
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| 00:24.30 | DeathRow | Someone name a audio recording program that works with kde |
| 00:25.02 | main2 | aplay |
| 00:25.09 | pinotree | play |
| 00:25.11 | main2 | in cli |
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| 00:26.04 | [x86] | heh |
| 00:26.35 | [x86] | i'm compiling KDE on Gentoo, and it's working on NaughtyConfigDialog.la |
| 00:26.43 | [x86] | what's up with that? |
| 00:26.57 | pinotree | ? |
| 00:27.11 | [x86] | and NaughtyApplet |
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| 00:27.25 | DietrichR | KDE people have a sick sense of humour =D |
| 00:27.27 | Ringwraith` | hello |
| 00:27.33 | dull4o4 | how can i check what screen mode kdm is using?? |
| 00:27.35 | Ringwraith` | pr0n! |
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| 00:27.51 | DeathRow | How do i add a program shortcut with the icon |
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| 00:28.07 | dull4o4 | everytime i logout there is a nasty switch/twink.. like changeing resolution or something |
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| 00:29.05 | dull4o4 | DeathRow, right click on your desktop |
| 00:29.39 | Ringwraith` | twinkle twinkle little res |
| 00:30.23 | DeathRow | dull4o4: i have and added it but the icon doesnt show only the blue kde icon |
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| 00:32.02 | DeathRow | How do i add newly installed apps to the menu? |
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| 00:33.00 | dull4o4 | DeathRow, the will appear automaticly, if dont, just re-login. you can change the default icon that u create |
| 00:33.42 | hugo_ | hello |
| 00:33.53 | ryanvalor | i dont like kio_ftp |
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| 00:34.11 | hugo_ | settings for my apps automaticly show on my top panel - how can i prevent this? |
| 00:34.17 | hugo_ | I want it in it's own window! |
| 00:34.25 | PeterFA | w00t, Kontact saved my email I was writing when power died and opened it up when I rebooted. |
| 00:34.30 | PeterFA | Nice |
| 00:34.32 | hugo_ | eg. the same window as the application it self |
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| 00:35.04 | kendrick | PeterFA: wow |
| 00:35.06 | pinotree | hugo_: are you saying you have two entries in the task bar - main application and config dialog? |
| 00:36.35 | PeterFA | I'm looking for a good UPS to meet my needs. |
| 00:36.43 | hugo_ | pinotree: I have the settings for each application in the taskbar panel |
| 00:36.57 | pinotree | hugo_: that's application fault |
| 00:37.11 | hugo_ | pinotree: it's on every application :P |
| 00:37.18 | pinotree | even kde? |
| 00:37.25 | pinotree | even kde's ones? |
| 00:37.28 | hugo_ | yes |
| 00:37.42 | hugo_ | should be a config for it somewhere :P |
| 00:38.05 | Sho_ | (note that the user could create a kwin rule via window-specific settings to make that happen) |
| 00:39.31 | hugo_ | Sho_: elaborate, please :) |
| 00:40.22 | Sho_ | hugo_: In KControl, in Desktop -> Window-specific settings, it would be possible to create a rule that changes the window type of settings dialogs to display a taskbar entry (which is not done by default) |
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| 00:42.24 | hugo_ | Sho_: could it be on window decorations? |
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| 00:43.48 | hugo_ | I'm using Baghira style btw |
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| 00:52.21 | zuri | Hello. How can I modify the modifier keys in my keyboard? I need some applications to be able to receive alt+click and even alt+drag, but I also want to be able to move windows around that way, since I do that a lot. Someone suggested I changed the modifier for the win key, but in the "Keyboard shortcuts" section of kcontrol the X modifier mapping seems to be read only. Any ideas? |
| 00:53.08 | Ringwraith` | zuri, hi. |
| 00:53.18 | zuri | Ringwraith`: Hi |
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| 00:54.09 | linux_galore | zuri: open a terminal and swap to root with the su command then run kcontrol |
| 00:55.20 | zuri | It brought my kcontrol window to the front, I guess I ned t close it first. I didn't know that required root access though, shouldn't it have an "Administrator mode" button then? |
| 00:55.59 | zuri | Well, OK, I have it running as root now |
| 00:56.20 | linux_galore | zuri: dont know varies, on my rig I dont have to be admin |
| 00:57.04 | zuri | Well, how do you modify them? I've tried clicking, double clicking, right clicking, middle clicking.... |
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| 00:58.36 | linux_galore | zuri: basically you select the the feature select custom then set it |
| 00:59.20 | zuri | linux_galore: I'm not trying to modify any shortcut, but the "modifier keys", it's the 3rd tab on Keyboard shortcuts |
| 00:59.29 | linux_galore | zuri: you may have to log out to make it stick |
| 01:00.21 | hugo_ | what font is the digital clock? |
| 01:00.27 | hugo_ | I need the date in the same font :P |
| 01:00.32 | linux_galore | zuri: thos are X11 things nothing to do with KDE |
| 01:01.26 | zuri | I would think that, but the help file says "Finally you can change what a keypress sends to the X-Server in the X-Modifier Mapping section" |
| 01:01.49 | zuri | The keyboard layout is also an X thing that doesn't have anything to do with KDE, but KDE changes it anyway |
| 01:02.01 | linux_galore | zuri: X11 is a system feature |
| 01:02.44 | visik7 | will KDE use XGL or AIXGLX to improve itself ? |
| 01:02.46 | linux_galore | zuri: kde has it own method of capturing key shortcuts that in the first menu |
| 01:03.23 | zuri | Well, that's what I want to know, how to change that |
| 01:03.52 | zuri | How to use the win key as the alt key, or how to use the win key + dragging to move windows (preferably) |
| 01:04.42 | linux_galore | zuri: click on HELP and "actually" read what it says |
| 01:05.02 | linux_galore | zuri: have yo set your keyboard type and maping |
| 01:05.05 | linux_galore | you* |
| 01:05.31 | linux_galore | zuri: it just lists the modifier keys for your keyboard type nothing much else |
| 01:06.12 | zuri | I already actually read what it says. And yeah, I set my keyboard type and layouts (layouts since I use two) since I set the system up about ayear ago |
| 01:06.35 | zuri | The first part does talk about only listing, at the end of the help file it says: Finally, you can change what a keypress sends to the X-Server in the X Modifier Mapping section. A common example is to reconfigure the Caps Lock key, which is rarely used, to be another Ctrl key. This is especially nice if you are a touch typist, as Caps Lock is much easier to reach than either of the Ctrl keys on a standard keyboard. |
| 01:06.50 | zuri | What it fails to mention is /how/ |
| 01:07.05 | zuri | That's why I came here, to see if someone knew how |
| 01:07.30 | linux_galore | zuri: look on keyboard layout and then look under xkb tab |
| 01:07.48 | linux_galore | zuri: if you dont setup your keyboard maping kde just guesses |
| 01:08.14 | zuri | What do you mean by mapping? Layout? If so I have 2 set up. If not I don't know what you mean. |
| 01:11.30 | linux_galore | zuri: every keyboard type has it own key maping |
| 01:11.59 | linux_galore | zuri: the standard 105 series has half a dozen variations |
| 01:13.43 | hugo_ | Sho: http://img287.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bsdosx9un.png |
| 01:13.47 | hugo_ | that is how it's now |
| 01:14.03 | hugo_ | I want those settings on the physical GUI |
| 01:14.18 | hugo_ | the image is just an example btw :P |
| 01:14.40 | linux_galore | hugo_: that just the baghira theme |
| 01:14.51 | zuri | linux_galore: Thanks, with the xkbd options and "Window behavior" I was able to accomplish what I needed |
| 01:15.05 | hugo_ | linux_galore: Isn't it possible to do what I want with the baghira theme? |
| 01:15.18 | hugo_ | there SHOULD be a config for it :P |
| 01:15.19 | linux_galore | hugo_: yep that "IS" the baghira theme |
| 01:15.27 | hugo_ | linux_galore: yes, I know! |
| 01:15.49 | hugo_ | misunderstanding, lol |
| 01:16.01 | hugo_ | linux_galore: so it isn't possible to have those settings in the actual GUI? |
| 01:16.11 | hugo_ | of the app |
| 01:16.11 | linux_galore | hugo_: the baghira theme has its own config thing in the look and feel section |
| 01:16.20 | hugo_ | linux_galore: yeah, I know |
| 01:16.28 | linux_galore | hugo_: yes it is, Ive done it myself |
| 01:16.35 | hugo_ | linux_galore: remember how? :S |
| 01:16.38 | zuri | Wow, very MacOS-like, I'd never seen atheme like that |
| 01:16.49 | linux_galore | hugo_: yes it in kcontrol under look and feel |
| 01:17.07 | linux_galore | hugo_: but you have to install the baghira package first |
| 01:17.31 | hugo_ | linux_galore: I have.. |
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| 01:17.47 | linux_galore | hugo_: baghira has a whole heap of options, dont forget OSX has a few themes even on OSX |
| 01:18.08 | linux_galore | hugo_: hold on let me run through it all with you |
| 01:18.12 | hugo_ | and it's perfect exept that I don't want the settings for each app on the taskbar line |
| 01:18.28 | linux_galore | hugo_: the theme itself doesnt set thing up you have to turn thing on and off |
| 01:18.51 | linux_galore | hugo_: explain |
| 01:19.00 | hugo_ | linux_galore: well, you saw the screenshot? |
| 01:19.21 | linux_galore | hugo_: yes |
| 01:19.43 | hugo_ | the "Session Edit View Bookmarks Settings Help" are all settings in mc, which is the app running on the screenshot |
| 01:19.52 | hugo_ | I don't want them to appear there |
| 01:20.03 | linux_galore | hugo_: kicker is up the top but the thing down the bottom is another app |
| 01:20.04 | hugo_ | I want them to appear on the GUI to the app |
| 01:20.17 | hugo_ | linux_galore: yes, I know that |
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| 01:20.27 | linux_galore | hugo_: kxdocker |
| 01:20.31 | zuri | But that's the way it is in MacOS |
| 01:20.42 | hugo_ | zuri, yes, but that's not how i want it :) |
| 01:20.48 | hugo_ | hm.. |
| 01:20.50 | zuri | Heheh |
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| 01:21.30 | hugo_ | I'll try kcdocker.. |
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| 01:21.40 | linux_galore | hugo_: those are menu's you can add them yourself |
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| 01:22.06 | linux_galore | hugo_: basically he/she has added extra custom menu's |
| 01:22.28 | hugo_ | linux_galore: yes, but they are menus for Konsole |
| 01:22.42 | Tompok | This is a stupid question, and it's probably a easy fix but I can't figure it out so here is goes, in Konqueror I'm missing the normal Search bar that is to the left of the address bar, how do I get it back? |
| 01:22.46 | linux_galore | hugo_: no kciker |
| 01:22.49 | linux_galore | kicker* |
| 01:22.59 | linux_galore | hugo_: that whole thing is kicker |
| 01:23.12 | linux_galore | the bottom is kxdocker |
| 01:23.41 | hugo_ | linux_galore: I really appreciate you helping, but I'm not sure if you understand what i want :) |
| 01:23.55 | hugo_ | zuri: can you explain it in a humanly fashion? :) |
| 01:24.04 | linux_galore | hugo_: ok what part are you talking about |
| 01:24.16 | zuri | hugo_: In kcontrol, under desktop and then behaviour there's a "Menu bar at top of screen" where you can set to none, desktop menu bar or MacOS style |
| 01:24.38 | zuri | I don't know if that'll work, since I've never used Baghira, but that does sound like what you want |
| 01:24.48 | hugo_ | zuri: sure does :) |
| 01:25.13 | linux_galore | zuri: you can do that by right clicking on kicker anyway |
| 01:25.53 | linux_galore | right click -> configure taskbar select the top position |
| 01:26.02 | zuri | linux_galore: Not in my kicker... |
| 01:26.13 | Tompok | Can someone help me with my stupid problem? (Sorry for not being more patient but I feel like a idiot for not being able to figure this out easily) |
| 01:26.14 | linux_galore | zuri: any kicker version |
| 01:26.39 | hugo_ | zuri: yeah, that's the one :) |
| 01:27.12 | Tompok | Actually, my question is wrong, it's to the right of the address bar |
| 01:27.15 | Tompok | :) |
| 01:27.56 | linux_galore | zuri: if you missing the applet tabs that allow you to have the right click menu you can edit ~/.kde/share/config/kickerrc and turn the applet handles on |
| 01:28.23 | zuri | linux_galore: All I have when I right click is configure panel, not configure taskbar; and wherever I click on the window that configure panel brings, it doesn't take me to the screen that allows me to configure the menu bar at the top as None, desktop menu bar or current application's menu bar (MacOS style) |
| 01:28.39 | hugo_ | now I just have to figure out how to remove the desktop menu bar while i still have taskbar/clock etc :P |
| 01:28.54 | zuri | I do have the handles, I have then hide automatically, which is something I find very neat of KDE |
| 01:28.56 | linux_galore | zuri: HideAppletHandles=false |
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| 01:29.36 | zuri | HideAppletHandles is sert to false, I have them |
| 01:30.25 | Tompok | _hugo_, putting those underscores before your name makes tabbing difficult :/ |
| 01:30.26 | zuri | _hugo_: Maybe change its size to make it as small as the tray? |
| 01:31.29 | linux_galore | zuri: thats not a menu bar thats kicker |
| 01:31.29 | linux_galore | the whole thing up the top in that show it kicker nothing else |
| 01:31.29 | linux_galore | shot* |
| 01:31.29 | linux_galore | the thing down the bottom "is not kicker" its kxdocker |
| 01:32.04 | zuri | _hugo_: Select "none" instead of desktop menu bar? |
| 01:32.14 | _hugo_ | zuri: then the whole thing dissapears :P |
| 01:32.25 | _hugo_ | i want some applets up there |
| 01:32.36 | linux_galore | zuri: although to be honest I think that the gnome task bar not kicker there is a gnome logo on the left of the bar |
| 01:32.57 | _hugo_ | linux_galore: no, it's kicker :P |
| 01:33.09 | linux_galore | _hugo_: then why the gnome logo |
| 01:33.20 | _hugo_ | linux_galore: you can change it to whatever you want |
| 01:33.30 | linux_galore | why bother |
| 01:33.31 | Tompok | linux_galore, You seem pretty knowledgable of KDE, any chance you have any insight on how to fix my konq problem? |
| 01:33.55 | zuri | !linux_galore> I-m not running baghira, the thing at the bottom of my screen is kicker |
| 01:34.18 | zuri | Ah, great. The xkbd options broke my @Alt gr@ key, I guess I_ll have to u ndo that :/ |
| 01:34.24 | linux_galore | zuri: yes in that "shot" the thing at the bottom "isnt" kicker that kxdocker |
| 01:34.32 | _hugo_ | true |
| 01:34.39 | zuri | linux_galore: I-m not talking about that screenshot |
| 01:34.46 | linux_galore | zuri: what now |
| 01:34.58 | linux_galore | Tompok: dont ask dont get an answer |
| 01:35.08 | _hugo_ | so, any idea to remove the desktop menu bar while still having kicker enabled? |
| 01:35.12 | Tompok | I asked already |
| 01:35.13 | zuri | The "Alt Gr" key, it doesn't work anymore |
| 01:35.22 | _hugo_ | kicker dissapears if choose "none" |
| 01:35.28 | Tompok | linux_galore, scroll up your buffer |
| 01:36.09 | linux_galore | _hugo_: trying to figure out what you mean by desktop menu bar because I dont have one |
| 01:36.23 | zuri | _hugo_: There's a way to have empty panels to run any docklet you want (such as the system tray), in the regular kicker you right click it and select "Add new panel" |
| 01:36.39 | _hugo_ | linux_galore: same settings as I get when i right click my mouse |
| 01:36.49 | Tompok | linux_galore, do you want me to ask the question again? (I don't want to be a nuisance but I'm sure it's a easy fix) |
| 01:36.58 | _hugo_ | zuri, yes, I know |
| 01:37.13 | zuri | linux_galore: Desktop menu bar is the kicker running at the top of the screen, but with a menu for the desktop (as if it was a konqueror window) instead of the application menu |
| 01:37.16 | linux_galore | Tomasu: you didnt install the kde-addons package |
| 01:37.27 | linux_galore | Tomasu: so its missing |
| 01:37.45 | Tompok | ok after i install that should i reinstall konq? |
| 01:37.54 | linux_galore | Tompok: no |
| 01:37.59 | Tompok | ok |
| 01:38.15 | linux_galore | Tompok: just restart konqueror |
| 01:38.22 | Tompok | ok thank you |
| 01:39.15 | zuri | Not even removing the xkbd option brings the "Alt gr" key back now :/ |
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| 01:40.14 | abdel | slt t monde |
| 01:42.32 | zuri | I'll log out to see if that helps, brb |
| 01:42.37 | linux_galore | zuri: thats gnome, with gnome you can grab a menu applet and past it into another menu |
| 01:42.54 | zuri | BRB |
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| 01:43.55 | linux_galore | kde cant do that yet |
| 01:44.00 | Tompok | linux_galore, Alright I got a bunch more options and stuff in konq and everywhere else in kde now :) Where do I go in konq to enable the search bar? |
| 01:44.01 | linux_galore | maybe in plasma |
| 01:44.14 | linux_galore | Tompok: hold on |
| 01:44.18 | Tompok | no problem |
| 01:44.44 | Gumby | does anyone here know how to start an application so that it doesnt show up in the kicker taskbar? I remember doing this some time ago but I cant seem to find any info on it. I have tried using the window decoration settings but it doesnt seem to be doing the trick, either that or I am doing it wrong |
| 01:44.44 | linux_galore | ok open konqueror |
| 01:44.58 | linux_galore | Tompok: Settings -> Configure Toolbars |
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| 01:45.26 | linux_galore | Tompok: click to the right of main theres a down arrow and you will see "search" |
| 01:45.43 | zuri | OK, back. Logging out brought my Alt Gr key back, luckily |
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| 01:46.33 | Tompok | linux_galore, I see what your talking about but there isn't a search bar under the drop down |
| 01:46.38 | linux_galore | Tompok: move Search Bar from the left to the right box |
| 01:46.40 | Tompok | Just babbelfish and a few other things |
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| 01:47.20 | linux_galore | Tompok: you may have a kicker addons package have a look |
| 01:47.29 | linux_galore | sorry konqueror * |
| 01:47.36 | Tompok | ok |
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| 01:48.09 | linux_galore | Tompok: if you not sure logout and login again (you dont have to restart) |
| 01:48.15 | Tompok | ya i know |
| 01:48.34 | Tompok | I got a bunch of konq related packages, just loooking through em all now |
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| 01:49.54 | _hugo_ | I have the tabs "File Sessions Desktop Help" on kicker now |
| 01:49.58 | _hugo_ | how do I remove them? |
| 01:50.01 | Tompok | linux_galore, konq-plugins? |
| 01:50.17 | linux_galore | Tompok: could be I dont track these things |
| 01:50.21 | _hugo_ | zuri: any idea? :þ |
| 01:50.47 | linux_galore | ok Im out i have to visit the quack |
| 01:50.55 | zuri | _hugo_: That's the desktop menu bar, isnt it? |
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| 01:52.01 | _hugo_ | zuri: yes |
| 01:52.36 | _hugo_ | zuri: if I choose "none" in the menubar settings, kicker vanishes |
| 01:52.51 | _hugo_ | so there must be a way to remove those tabs manually |
| 01:53.55 | zuri | _hugo_: You just want the task bar right? |
| 01:55.04 | _hugo_ | zuri: and clock, and system tray |
| 01:55.43 | zuri | Well, just to test I just tried what I suggested earlier and it worked. I right clicked kicker, created a new panel, placed it on top of the screen and dragged the sys tray and clock to it, then I right clicked it, changed it length to something very small and... I think I have what you have |
| 01:56.14 | zuri | I think I have what you /want/ |
| 01:58.29 | _hugo_ | zuri: what you suggested doesn't make the desktop menu bar any less visible.. it just jump over other panels when i drag them |
| 01:58.45 | _hugo_ | or is there a way to get "draggers" on both sides of a panel? |
| 01:58.46 | zuri | Select "none" for desktop menu bar |
| 01:58.54 | zuri | And use the new panel, not the desktop menu bar's |
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| 01:59.32 | zuri | I'm not sure what you mean draggers, but if you mean the panel hiding buttons yes, you can have them on both, either or no sides |
| 01:59.37 | wimpies | My progress dialog (KGET) pops up if I click on an URL and has to be closed by hand ... how can I get rid of that ? |
| 01:59.39 | _hugo_ | zuri: kicker dissapears if i do that |
| 01:59.54 | zuri | _hugo_: Not if you created a new panel. |
| 02:00.12 | zuri | Create a new panel so you can get rid of the menu's |
| 02:00.30 | zuri | Create a new panel, drag what you want to it, and then make the other one dissapear |
| 02:00.41 | _hugo_ | how do I create a new panel? :P |
| 02:00.52 | _hugo_ | ah |
| 02:00.55 | _hugo_ | of course :P |
| 02:01.31 | _hugo_ | THANK YOU VERY MUCH :) |
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| 02:01.38 | zuri | You're welcome |
| 02:02.49 | _hugo_ | that kinda bugged me |
| 02:02.54 | _hugo_ | such an easy solution |
| 02:03.08 | _hugo_ | and i have spent and hours or so trying to figure it out :P |
| 02:03.18 | _hugo_ | s/hours/hour |
| 02:03.43 | _hugo_ | now, how do i make the taskbar tabs transparent? :) |
| 02:04.25 | zuri | Right click it, choose configure panel, go to appearance and select "Enable transparency"? |
| 02:04.48 | _hugo_ | yeah |
| 02:05.11 | _hugo_ | but the taskbar doesn't get transparen |
| 02:05.12 | _hugo_ | t |
| 02:05.37 | zuri | Then it's probably a Baghira taskbar |
| 02:07.09 | zuri | In which case I can't help you, I don't use Bahira (though I just installed it to maybe give it a try later) |
| 02:08.09 | _hugo_ | hehe, okay |
| 02:08.36 | _hugo_ | but I mean i've had the same problem with any styles.. |
| 02:09.34 | zuri | I'm not sure this option existed before, but you can right click it -> configure panel -> Taskbar and in appearance choose between "ellegant" "classic" and "for transparency" |
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| 02:11.49 | xbeanx | Anybody know how to disable smooth scroll in konqueror in kde 3.5? It's slow on my laptop. |
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| 02:12.06 | _hugo_ | woops |
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| 02:14.55 | Virtual | how do I add an app to Quick Launcher ? |
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| 02:15.34 | zuri | Virtual: Do you mean the panel at the bottom of the screen? |
| 02:15.46 | bulio | how do I make KDE place an icon on the desktop to mounted things? |
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| 02:15.50 | bulio | like an auto-mount |
| 02:16.04 | Virtual | zuri I mean the panel with the small icons in the taskbar :) |
| 02:16.31 | zuri | Virtual: With the small icons? ... The system tray? |
| 02:16.41 | Virtual | Quick Launcher |
| 02:16.46 | EugeneTSWong | Hi all. |
| 02:17.03 | Virtual | zuri: the Applet called Quick Launcher |
| 02:17.14 | Virtual | never mind, I found the add option |
| 02:17.31 | zuri | And I found the applet, guess we both learned something ;D |
| 02:17.37 | Virtual | :)) |
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| 02:56.53 | bulio | how do I have KDE auto-mount my sony PSP? |
| 02:57.05 | bulio | in windows I plug it in and it is seen as a removable drive |
| 02:58.25 | zuri | bulio: That's a feature of the system, not of KDE. I don't know how PSPs work, but if they appear as standard USB drives then you should look into auto mounting in Linux... |
| 02:58.51 | bulio | ok |
| 02:59.10 | zuri | bulio: Try going to #linuxhelp, they may be of more help |
| 02:59.23 | bulio | ok |
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| 03:54.13 | rr73 | sup aseigo |
| 03:55.24 | rr73 | grepper~ hey dude |
| 03:56.14 | linux_galore | :-) |
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| 04:03.18 | thx8311 | Try #suse, someone in there hates gays. |
| 04:03.35 | main123 | :)) |
| 04:05.40 | _bbeck | My apologies to anyone that may be in the kubuntu or kde-artists group right now for cross posting but... I have just converted an svg icon set to a native KDE icon set, but I'm running into this strange problem where if I run KMail by itself (alt+F2 then kmail) it uses the fall back icon set, but if I start Kontact, and go to Mail it uses the new set. Does anyone know what might be causing this? |
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| 04:59.13 | Sin_Eastwood | yo. does anyone here know why my icons on the kde desktop have disapeard . i started all over be eraseing my hidden files in my home dir and after a new login the icons went missing "home && system" |
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| 05:13.04 | Whiskers | I have Suse 10 with kde 3.4, I was messing with control panel, and now my K menu appears opens from the side, instead of from the bottom of my screen, how do I change that back to open from the bottom and not from the side? |
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| 05:15.22 | thx8311 | Whiskers: Just click and drag your main panel to where on the screen you want it. |
| 05:15.35 | jlund | I'm getting an error every time I open a Konqueror file browsing window. The error window says: "Cannot find parent item file:///home in the tree. Internal error." I am on Ubuntu with 3.5.1. Anyone know how to correct this? |
| 05:17.10 | Whiskers | thx8311, the panels in the correct spot, but the opening animatio of the menu, the menu appears from the side of the screen, not from the bottom |
| 05:18.14 | thx8311 | You can allways rename /home/user/.kde to something else. Log off then back on and get back the default settings. |
| 05:18.56 | Whiskers | would that chnage my theme and colour settings too? |
| 05:19.05 | thx8311 | Yes. |
| 05:19.38 | Whiskers | ok i'll save that as a last effort if i cnat just find the setting |
| 05:19.47 | thx8311 | The downside is you would either have to redo settings for kmail and other programs or you can copy the individual config files back to the new .kde. |
| 05:20.52 | thx8311 | I did this once to mine because some things where acting funky after updating KDE. I re did most of my settings, some things like Kmail and Koepte and some other PIM programs I coptied the config files to the new .kde. |
| 05:22.47 | Whiskers | is there anything improved or new in 3.5 or all under the hood? |
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| 05:22.59 | tonsofpcs | so I got vncserver loading Xvnc, it's loading directly to the windowmanager without login (KDE in this case), not what I prefer, but i'm fine with that; but anything that uses SCIM/gtk will draw it's interface then segfault if loaded on that display. anyone know why/how to fix it? |
| 05:23.13 | thx8311 | The biggest differant I noticed was Kopete. |
| 05:23.24 | thx8311 | Which now has webcam support. |
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| 05:23.46 | Whiskers | ooh cool but there still isnt a driver for Logitech webcams :( |
| 05:23.55 | Whiskers | unless you want to build one from source *gags* |
| 05:24.10 | thx8311 | I don't know about other distros but I use SUSE 10 and I was able to update just Kopete with out doing all of KDE. I did how ever update all of KDE later on. |
| 05:24.20 | jlund | I'm getting an error every time I open a Konqueror file browsing window. The error window says: "Cannot find parent item file:///home in the tree. Internal error." I am on Ubuntu with 3.5.1. Anyone know how to correct this? |
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| 05:25.14 | Whiskers | hmm let me check yat for updates |
| 05:25.18 | nixbox | how can i enable my multimedia keys in kde, i am using inspiron6000 |
| 05:26.10 | tonsofpcs | nixbox - just set up the keyboard properly |
| 05:26.48 | tonsofpcs | go to keyboard layout |
| 05:26.51 | Whiskers | nixbox what distro? |
| 05:27.02 | tonsofpcs | set model to "Dell Inspiron 8xxx" |
| 05:27.10 | tonsofpcs | then set the shortcuts |
| 05:27.12 | nixbox | Whiskers, gentoo 2006.0 |
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| 05:28.22 | Whiskers | nixbox have you tried lineakd ? |
| 05:28.49 | nixbox | Whiskers, will hotkeys work for me? |
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| 05:30.05 | nixbox | tonsofpcs, i dont have any option to set the model in keyboard layout :P |
| 05:30.53 | tonsofpcs | hmm, i forget where it is in the real config files... it's in there somewhere |
| 05:30.59 | tonsofpcs | keyboard layout becomes dell/us iirc |
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| 05:32.38 | nixbox | tonsofpcs, well Dell is there but not inspiron 8xxx |
| 05:32.58 | tonsofpcs | nixbox - then just choose dell |
| 05:33.10 | whiskers | could try dell and just remap to the appropriate command |
| 05:33.31 | tonsofpcs | you're going to have to set the shortcuts yourself on the 6xxxs anyway, as the buttons are slightly different |
| 05:34.30 | linux_galore | theres an excellent keypad kde mapping tool called keytouch think its on http://keytouch.sf.net |
| 05:34.36 | nixbox | tonsofpcs, how and where do i have to set the shortcuts |
| 05:35.32 | main | does kdiskcat still exist? |
| 05:35.39 | tonsofpcs | open KDE control center, go to accessability, keyboard shortcuts |
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| 05:37.27 | whiskers | thats still weird, the normal kmenu animation, opens the menu from the bottom of the screen to the top, but my menu animation opens the menu from the side of the screen |
| 05:37.42 | whiskers | i dont see where i could have changed it to do that |
| 05:38.32 | linux_galore | whiskers: there are three ways you can set your kepad mapping |
| 05:39.05 | whiskers | ooh? |
| 05:39.28 | linux_galore | whiskers: 1 in kcontrol acessability -> keyboard shortcuts and keyboard layout, setup the later first |
| 05:39.30 | whiskers | ive used xmodmap before, but its a pain to set up that way |
| 05:39.38 | nixbox | ain't there any applet which can show network activity? |
| 05:40.02 | linux_galore | whiskers: 2, install lineakd and klineakd and configure you keyboard mapping with your mouse |
| 05:40.14 | linux_galore | whiskers: 3. the way i do it with keytouch |
| 05:40.27 | whiskers | i didnt see a package for keytouch |
| 05:40.32 | linux_galore | keytouch is the easiest |
| 05:40.41 | linux_galore | I posted the link before |
| 05:40.51 | linux_galore | about 2 min ago |
| 05:41.22 | whiskers | know about the menu thing too? :P |
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| 05:50.35 | whiskers | mebbe :P |
| 05:56.39 | thx8311 | Does any one here use the encryption plugin for koepte? |
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| 06:34.10 | tonsofpcs | so I got vncserver loading Xvnc, it's loading directly to the windowmanager without login (KDE in this case), not what I prefer, but i'm fine with that; but anything that uses SCIM/gtk will draw it's interface then segfault if loaded on that display. anyone know why/how to fix it? |
| 06:35.04 | mark_alec | speci don't think it will work too well with thattt |
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| 08:29.39 | Shirakawasuna | Is it possible to use a KDE configuration to use laptop hotkeys such as fn + page up for volume up? |
| 08:29.47 | Shirakawasuna | or do I need to use something like xbindkeys? |
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| 08:31.52 | PhilRod | if xev recognises the fn key, you can do it with KDE |
| 08:31.53 | xanax` | hello |
| 08:31.57 | halcyonCorsair | does anyone know which ati chips are supported in linux? |
| 08:32.08 | Shirakawasuna | PhilRod: would it be in kcontrol under keyboard shortcuts? |
| 08:32.41 | StevenR | halcyonCorsair: afaik all of them will work....to what degree is a different matter |
| 08:32.56 | StevenR | yo PhilRod :) got my viva this afternoon :S |
| 08:33.09 | Shirakawasuna | PhilRod: I don't see a default, so I'll have to see if I can get alsamixer to do it, right? |
| 08:33.20 | PhilRod | Shirakawasuna: to change volume, use kmix |
| 08:33.36 | PhilRod | in 3.5 it has "volume up/down" global shortcuts |
| 08:33.43 | PhilRod | StevenR: ooh, good luck :-) |
| 08:33.49 | StevenR | thanks PhilRod :) |
| 08:34.01 | qupada | Shirakawasuna: if you want to test it, open a konsole, run xev, give the window that appears focus, then hit the fn key a few times and see if you get console output. try fn-pgup vs pgup to see if they generate different input |
| 08:34.36 | Shirakawasuna | there is a different input |
| 08:34.42 | Shirakawasuna | *I also had it working in gnome |
| 08:34.59 | Shirakawasuna | I'm using 3.4.3 - I stay stable w/ gentoo |
| 08:35.37 | Shirakawasuna | hmm...I'm having trouble customizing it |
| 08:36.32 | qupada | i use hotkeys to control audio, but i know i've done it with kde's keyboard shortcuts too |
| 08:37.02 | thx8311 | Any one here use Konversation? |
| 08:37.24 | Shirakawasuna | qupada: but w/ kde 3.4.3 is the question, I suppose :) |
| 08:37.36 | Shirakawasuna | is it possible to add custom commands, etc? |
| 08:38.11 | qupada | yes, i had it with 3.4.1 |
| 08:38.15 | Shirakawasuna | cool |
| 08:39.02 | Shirakawasuna | hmm |
| 08:39.09 | Shirakawasuna | xev is registering the keystrokes, but not khotkey |
| 08:39.54 | qupada | Shirakawasuna: open kmix, settings>configure global shortcuts, and you can assign keys there |
| 08:41.25 | Shirakawasuna | qupada: sorry, but I don't see how....there's no volume up/down setting there or a "new" button |
| 08:43.46 | qupada | in "configure global shortcuts" you should get a standard kde shortcut box with only 3 entries (raise volume, lower volume, mute)... just click one, click the "custom" radio button, then press the key combo you want when the dialogue appears |
| 08:43.50 | Shirakawasuna | sorry if I'm being extra annoying - I just switched to KDE from gnome and am really impressed so far, albeit confused |
| 08:44.44 | Shirakawasuna | in Settings I only have "configure shortcuts" and "configure kmix" |
| 08:45.03 | qupada | no "configure global shortcuts" ? |
| 08:45.05 | Shirakawasuna | configure shortcuts has ~10 entries andn none of them are that useful |
| 08:45.06 | Shirakawasuna | nope |
| 08:45.36 | Shirakawasuna | kmix 2.6.1 |
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| 08:46.51 | qupada | only have 2.6 here |
| 08:47.11 | Shirakawasuna | hmmmm |
| 08:47.22 | Shirakawasuna | maybe my USE flags disabled it somehow (I'm using gentoo) |
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| 08:47.40 | Shirakawasuna | maybe I need to restart KDE |
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| 08:48.06 | SlicerDicer- | is anybody familar with what would cause KDE to not allow both kicker bars to go transparent in a dual X session? |
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| 08:48.48 | SlicerDicer- | I am using a same config from gentoo in ubuntu so I did not have to redo it all and the config works fine as xorg is xorg... anyway I am wondering if there is a setting or something that makes it to where I cannot |
| 08:49.04 | SlicerDicer- | its pretty frustrating as my wallpapers are designed for kicker to go transparent |
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| 08:50.22 | qupada | i don't know much about dual screens, maybe the panels just have to be configured independantly |
| 08:50.38 | qupada | Shirakawasuna: this is what you should be seeing: http://img113.imageshack.us/img113/1544/kmix18st.png |
| 08:51.14 | Shirakawasuna | qupada: I actually just found that by right clicking on the icon in the system tray |
| 08:51.28 | Shirakawasuna | qupada: but it still doesn't recognize my keyboard fn key + page up.... |
| 08:51.29 | Shirakawasuna | *sigh |
| 08:51.44 | qupada | it just sees page up? or what? |
| 08:51.46 | SlicerDicer- | qupada: tried :/ |
| 08:51.54 | SlicerDicer- | I have to set them independet yes |
| 08:51.57 | SlicerDicer- | but that still does not work |
| 08:52.06 | Shirakawasuna | qupada: it sees nothing w/ fn + pageup |
| 08:52.11 | SlicerDicer- | I cant change anything about kicker at all with the look in one bar |
| 08:52.25 | SlicerDicer- | I mean I can add of course program quicklaunches but thats all |
| 08:52.29 | Shirakawasuna | qupada: I guess it doesn't like my fn key |
| 08:52.42 | SlicerDicer- | I just cannot change the physical look be it change color or whatever nothing |
| 08:52.49 | SlicerDicer- | its not responding to any of that :/ |
| 08:52.52 | qupada | SlicerDicer-: how about just removing one and either extending the other to fill the whole width of both screens, or just having one? |
| 08:53.06 | SlicerDicer- | qupada: its seperate X sessions |
| 08:53.12 | Shirakawasuna | I've also noticed that kcontrol is where it's supposed to be....I've been having to run it from a terminal |
| 08:53.17 | qupada | SlicerDicer-: ah, so not xinerama-styles? |
| 08:53.25 | SlicerDicer- | no |
| 08:53.28 | SlicerDicer- | its too rough with gaming |
| 08:53.55 | qupada | yeah, that's true... i've had that experience |
| 08:54.53 | SlicerDicer- | so I found dual X sessions to be awesome |
| 08:54.59 | SlicerDicer- | I have been using it for quite some time and I love it |
| 08:55.10 | SlicerDicer- | the only draw back is everything is confined to each window but I can live with that |
| 08:55.19 | qupada | Shirakawasuna: check your keyboard type in kcontrol too, you might just need to set it to a kind of keyboard that it does know has extra keys |
| 08:55.29 | SlicerDicer- | its like having 2 seperate computers but melded into one :) |
| 08:55.31 | Shirakawasuna | ooh, good idea |
| 08:55.41 | qupada | yeah, i had some fun realising without xinerama you couldn't move windows between the two displays |
| 08:55.59 | SlicerDicer- | aye well I hate running games in windowed mode |
| 08:56.00 | SlicerDicer- | so heh |
| 08:56.13 | qupada | http://linuxgazette.net/124/smith.html you seen this? |
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| 08:56.26 | SlicerDicer- | looking |
| 08:56.33 | qupada | when two displays isn't enough... let's have 6, each with their own keyboard and mouse |
| 08:56.47 | qupada | i gtg |
| 08:56.53 | SlicerDicer- | lol |
| 08:57.06 | qupada | good luck with the kicker thing |
| 08:57.11 | SlicerDicer- | thats nuts man |
| 08:57.13 | SlicerDicer- | 6 head |
| 08:57.13 | Shirakawasuna | qupada: bye and thanks for all of the help |
| 08:57.14 | qupada | upgrade to 3.5.1 if you haven't already |
| 08:57.33 | SlicerDicer- | that may be the ticket |
| 08:58.32 | Shirakawasuna | woo, it works |
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| 09:00.46 | henk | hi, how do i configure katapult ? (create my own shotcuts, configure apprerance etc) |
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| 09:04.27 | Shirakawasuna | where should kcontrol be located in the K Menu? |
| 09:05.28 | henk | system settings (first menu) but its a slightly different view from what you get after typing kcontrol in a shell, personaly i think its less intuitive. |
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| 09:15.00 | Shirakawasuna | oh I see |
| 09:15.05 | Shirakawasuna | maybe I can change that using it |
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| 09:17.41 | teequ | Hi, I asked this just on #kubuntu, so bare me for this duplicate. Anyhow, does someone know how to disable automatic launching of Konqueror, when you insert audio cd. I want cd to be automatically mounted, but I don't want konqueror to pop up. |
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| 09:32.44 | pinotree | hello |
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| 09:33.34 | PhilRod | hi pinotree |
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| 09:52.28 | Shirakawasuna | hmm...I still can't seem to find anything kcontrol-ie in the K Menu |
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| 09:54.13 | pinotree | Shirakawasuna: Atl+F2, kcontrol |
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| 09:55.29 | Shirakawasuna | is that the only method? |
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| 09:57.50 | pinotree | of course not |
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| 09:58.05 | pinotree | but it's strange you don't have kcontrol in the main kmenu |
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| 10:12.52 | henk | if i want to define aliasses (commands) that are global to kde where whould i do that ? |
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| 11:09.02 | vortec | hi, is there any command that sets the wallpaper? |
| 11:09.38 | pinotree | sure, using dcop |
| 11:10.21 | pinotree | dcop kdesktop KBackgroundIface setWallpaper deskop wallpaper mode |
| 11:11.07 | PhilRod | in fact, that very command is noted in the user guide: see the section "scripting the desktop": |
| 11:11.08 | PhilRod | ~ug |
| 11:11.09 | apt | well, ug is http://docs.kde.org/development/en/kdebase/userguide/ |
| 11:11.10 | vortec | thanks |
| 11:12.51 | kambei | Where does one place a kwin theme? |
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| 11:14.28 | PhilRod | pinotree: yeah, quite well, especially the bits I wrote, like that one :-) |
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| 11:23.05 | hkBst | I can't get konqueror to allow javascript to open a window for a specific site and having it disallowed globally |
| 11:24.55 | pinotree | kcontrol -> internet & network -> web browsing -> java and javascript -> javascript tab |
| 11:25.02 | pinotree | hkBst: ^ |
| 11:25.47 | pinotree | you set globally a reject window opening policy, and in the view above you add a per-site policy |
| 11:26.53 | hkBst | pinotree: that is what I've done, but somehow it won't work. |
| 11:28.30 | hkBst | if I allow globally it works, but I cannot get the per-site policy to work |
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| 11:29.32 | pinotree | which hostmask did you use? |
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| 11:30.06 | henkwilzijnnickt | I need thunderbird "minimize to tray" funcionality .. does anyone know how ? |
| 11:30.27 | pinotree | surely not kde issue |
| 11:31.06 | pinotree | but i know a kde app to start every application (even non-kde) in the systray |
| 11:31.28 | henkwilzijnnickt | which is ? |
| 11:31.35 | pinotree | (but i don't remember its name) |
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| 11:31.40 | pinotree | look in kde-apps.org |
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| 11:31.59 | hkBst | under domain-specific I've tried "uu.nl", "library.uu.nl" and "aleph.library.uu.nl" with policy accept and allow open new windows and use global for the rest |
| 11:32.23 | pinotree | hkBst: what happens if you use ".uu.nl" ? |
| 11:34.11 | hkBst | pinotree: it works :) thanks |
| 11:34.38 | pinotree | hkBst: a small tip, use thew whatsthis function on the host line edit |
| 11:36.39 | hkBst | pinotree: that doesn't explain why aleph.library.uu.nl didn't work, since it is a host. |
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| 11:41.35 | ye_old | hi all, why can kmail just apply local filters? I can't filter messages to an IMAP folder, it just does not show up in the filter menu, where one should be able to "move messages to folder" |
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| 12:04.50 | cupu | hello .. using konstruct .. how can I specify a certain mirror to be used? I'm getting low download rates for the mirros it tries and there is a mirror on the list there from where that can be imporved .. thank you |
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| 12:11.31 | exit_music | anybody knows how to use gdb on kde apps? |
| 12:11.44 | cupu | found it ... |
| 12:11.45 | exit_music | kcrash interrupts sigsegv signal. |
| 12:12.49 | cupu | it was written in the README .. sorry for the questions |
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| 12:19.56 | ye_old | why can kmail just apply local filters? I can't filter messages to an IMAP folder, it just does not show up in the filter menu, where one should be able to "move messages to folder" |
| 12:20.04 | ye_old | imap and kmail should be friends now |
| 12:21.41 | PhilRod | ye_old: you can filter imap messages in kde 3.5 |
| 12:21.47 | PhilRod | whatever kmail version that is |
| 12:21.53 | ye_old | PhilRod: I have kde 3.5.1 and I can't |
| 12:22.28 | ye_old | kmail 1.8.3 |
| 12:22.31 | PhilRod | you want a filter action that moves an incoming message from one imap folder to another? |
| 12:22.52 | PhilRod | kmail 1.9.1 comes with kde 3.5 |
| 12:22.53 | ye_old | right, from the inbox to the mailinglist folder |
| 12:22.58 | PhilRod | that's your problem, I imagine |
| 12:23.24 | ye_old | wait a second, how can that be? my kde version is higher but kmail stayed behind? |
| 12:23.36 | ye_old | kmail is part of kdepim |
| 12:23.45 | ye_old | and that version is surely up to 3.5. here!! |
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| 12:24.49 | ye_old | Qt: 3.3.5 |
| 12:24.49 | ye_old | KDE: 3.5.1 |
| 12:24.49 | ye_old | KMail: 1.8.3 |
| 12:24.50 | PhilRod | dunno. I don't really understand kmail versioning |
| 12:25.09 | PhilRod | what distro? |
| 12:25.19 | ye_old | ah yes, it might count down.. debian 2.6.12 kernel |
| 12:25.22 | kambei | This is a dumb question, but where do I put a kwin decoration? |
| 12:25.24 | ye_old | etch |
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| 12:27.27 | PhilRod | kambei: you have to compile it |
| 12:27.37 | kambei | I see. |
| 12:28.02 | PhilRod | kambei: it would be a dumb question if we had any documentation about installing themes and such, but we don't, so you're OK :-) |
| 12:28.06 | kambei | It's been a few years since I've run KDE, and I'm trying to get the hang of it. |
| 12:28.13 | kambei | PhilRod: Believe me, I looked. |
| 12:28.34 | kambei | PhilRod: Some of them do not have any source, they're just images and rcs. |
| 12:28.41 | ye_old | PhilRod: should I go with "unstable" now? this is kinda wacko, just to get kmail of a higher version |
| 12:28.57 | PhilRod | ye_old: no idea - I don't know how debian packages kde |
| 12:29.16 | PhilRod | kambei: really? hrm, not sure then. I never really got into theming |
| 12:29.33 | kambei | PhilRod: Okay, any idea what I do with IceWM themes? |
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| 12:30.08 | ye_old | PhilRod: I'm atm asking that in #debian ;) |
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| 12:31.01 | PhilRod | ye_old: I think there's a #debian-kde channel, but not sure |
| 12:31.06 | ye_old | let's see |
| 12:31.17 | ye_old | yeah there is :) |
| 12:33.40 | PhilRod | kambei: drop them in $KDEDIR/share/apps/kwin/icewm-themes |
| 12:33.54 | PhilRod | that seems to be it |
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| 12:34.18 | kambei | PhilRod: Thanks. Can you tell me, for my own education, how you determinted that? |
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| 12:37.45 | PhilRod | kambei: googled for "kde icewm themes", saw that there are some in kdeartwork, looked in my local copy of the kdeartwork source, found what files the icewm themes include, then looked for those files in $KDEDIR |
| 12:37.56 | PhilRod | !out |
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| 12:37.58 | kambei | PhilRod: I see. |
| 12:38.02 | kambei | PhilFood: Thanks. |
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| 12:53.33 | _martin | hello |
| 12:55.26 | _martin | /help |
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| 12:55.55 | _martin | can anyone see this |
| 12:56.38 | _martin | how do I get to a linux room |
| 12:57.09 | kambei | Is a joke? |
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| 12:57.52 | _martin | kambei ...how do I find channels |
| 12:58.02 | vortec | type /list |
| 12:58.11 | mobtek | man where has khotkeys moved to in 3.5.1? |
| 12:58.18 | kambei | _martin: It's a very long list. |
| 12:58.18 | otto_ | just type "/join #linux-india" |
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| 13:00.15 | _martin | kambei...how do i stop the list from scrolling by so fast |
| 13:00.31 | kambei | _martin: You don't, really. |
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| 13:00.54 | kambei | _martin: What are you looking for, exactly? |
| 13:02.36 | mobtek | anyone? |
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| 13:20.02 | maijk | Hi! I downloaded some Themes on kde-look. Extracted them and rightclicked on Install theme, but nothing happens.. And When I go to Apperance in System Settings I cannot find the theme I installed.. I use KUBUNTU With KDE 3.4.3! Please help me! |
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| 13:22.13 | mobtek | maijk: try upgrading to 3.5.1 ? |
| 13:22.38 | maijk | Can I du that in synaptics? |
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| 13:27.53 | PhilFood | anisX: turn it down! I don't want to hear it! ;-) |
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| 13:28.40 | Death_Wish | how what is the pack for these missing headers that i need? |
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| 13:29.41 | Death_Wish | ? |
| 13:30.21 | PhilFood | what missing headers? |
| 13:30.28 | PhilFood | although the answer is probably kdelibs-devel |
| 13:30.35 | Death_Wish | checking for KDE... configure: error: |
| 13:30.35 | Death_Wish | in the prefix, you've chosen, are no KDE headers installed. This will fail. |
| 13:30.35 | Death_Wish | So, check this please and use another prefix! |
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| 13:30.57 | PhilFood | yeah, kdelibs-devel |
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| 13:31.20 | Death_Wish | om on gentoo |
| 13:31.35 | Death_Wish | i can't emerge it |
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| 13:33.07 | PhilFood | you'll have to install the package into the same place as KDE. Did you use --prefix? |
| 13:33.30 | Death_Wish | i just ran ./configure |
| 13:34.10 | PhilFood | use "./configure --prefix=/path/to/KDE" |
| 13:34.24 | PhilFood | where /path/to/KDE is the output of the command "kde-config --prefix" |
| 13:34.26 | Death_Wish | oh /usr/kde/3.5/ |
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| 13:36.33 | Death_Wish | woo hoo when i did ./configure --prefix=/usr/kde/3.5/ it ran perfect :) thank you |
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| 13:37.51 | maijk | How should I do to update my KDE? I use kUbuntu |
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| 13:39.53 | heanol | hi, i just installed a second monitor on my machine and started kde (without xinerama in the xconfig), now the kde session on the second monitor has the default themes, etc |
| 13:40.08 | heanol | can i somehow copy over my theme settings, customizations etc to the new one? |
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| 13:42.02 | tanob | how can I compile the KDE Ark tool ? |
| 13:42.13 | tanob | there isn't a configure |
| 13:42.16 | PhilRod | tanob: compile kdeutils |
| 13:42.36 | heanol | hrm, nevermind, they are the same.. |
| 13:42.38 | tanob | i've checkout'd the ark only |
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| 13:44.17 | PhilRod | tanob: check out the kdeutils toplevel with svn -N (I think), then in that directory run 'svn up admin' and 'svn up ark' |
| 13:44.25 | Narada_ | which part of kde is kicker? |
| 13:44.35 | Tm_T | kdebase |
| 13:44.42 | sredna | Narada_: Kicker is in the kdebase module |
| 13:44.43 | PhilRod | you can then run ./configure in the toplevel and just compile ark |
| 13:44.48 | Narada_ | cos it keeps taking a lot of cpu |
| 13:44.57 | PhilRod | Narada_: it's the panel |
| 13:45.01 | sredna | Narada_: Try restart it |
| 13:45.06 | Narada_ | how do you restart it |
| 13:45.07 | Tm_T | how kicker can take cpu... |
| 13:45.15 | tanob | PhilRod: thanks, i'll try :D |
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| 13:45.18 | Tm_T | Narada_: dcop kicker kicker restart |
| 13:45.26 | sredna | Narada_: Press alt + f2 and enter 'dcop kicker default restart' as the command |
| 13:45.32 | xglwanter | hello |
| 13:45.35 | Tm_T | sredna: yay! |
| 13:45.42 | Narada_ | hmm okay you guys have given me two different commands |
| 13:45.48 | Narada_ | which one is it |
| 13:45.48 | Tm_T | sredna: you're backing me up nice ;) |
| 13:45.53 | sredna | Tm_T: :) |
| 13:45.53 | Tm_T | Narada_: both |
| 13:46.01 | Tm_T | Narada_: theyre just the same |
| 13:46.49 | Narada_ | done |
| 13:47.11 | Narada_ | everytime i switch vdesktops it goes up to 13% cpu |
| 13:47.17 | Narada_ | i think that's normal isn't it |
| 13:47.36 | Tm_T | Narada_: just for second? |
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| 13:47.56 | Tm_T | 15:44 < Narada_> cos it keeps taking a lot of cpu <- what was that |
| 13:48.39 | Narada_ | well everytime a program redraws itself kicker goes up to like 20% or when i change desktops and stays like that for 5-10 secs |
| 13:48.42 | visik7 | anyone know a good hi-fi site/portal/blog ? |
| 13:49.03 | visik7 | I know I'm OT but I cannot find any good site |
| 13:49.53 | Narada_ | Sorry for stating the obvious but google really would be better for that kind of thing. |
| 13:50.13 | visik7 | I looking for it on google |
| 13:50.30 | Tm_T | Narada_: maybe some panel/applet/whatever causes that cpu hog |
| 13:51.28 | Narada_ | possibly |
| 13:51.41 | xglwanter | i suspet my KDE is using old kdelibs althought i have kdelibs3.5.1-r2 installed, how can i be sure? and how can i fix that? |
| 13:52.21 | tanob | PhilRod: there isn't configure in the parent directory too |
| 13:52.25 | PhilRod | xglwanter: why do you suspect that? |
| 13:52.44 | PhilRod | tanob: google for kde svn compiling instructions - that'll tell you what to do |
| 13:53.12 | xglwanter | PhilRod: because some aplications like konuqueror and kmail don't work and in general kde do weird things |
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| 13:55.18 | xglwanter | PhilRod: and because if i launch kde with kdestart it says is 3.5.1 but when i launch it with kdm it says is version 3.4 but everythiiing works fine |
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| 13:57.58 | PhilRod | xglwanter: best thing to do would be to use your distro's package tools to see what versions of kdelibs and kdebase are isntalled |
| 13:58.01 | PhilRod | they should be the same |
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| 13:59.42 | xglwanter | PhilRod: i'm using gentoo and in theory emerge says i have kdelibs3.5.1-r2 and kdebase-meta3.5.1 but actualy i can start kde3.4 with kdm |
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| 14:01.35 | PhilRod | xglwanter: if you go to help->about kde in a kde app, what does it say? |
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| 14:03.17 | xglwanter | PhilRod: in control center says 3.5.1 and K3B say is running under 3.4 |
| 14:03.43 | _martin | anyone using suse |
| 14:03.53 | _martin | anyone using suse |
| 14:04.07 | PhilRod | _martin: lots of people. Just ask your question :-) |
| 14:04.35 | PhilRod | xglwanter: exciting. You might want to ask in #gentoo-kde how you can make sure everything is the same KDE version |
| 14:05.00 | _martin | anyone using hplip |
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| 14:06.54 | xglwanter | PhilRod: thank u very much |
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| 14:08.16 | _martin | im new to this chat stuff but from what i gather u pick a server then you pick a channel on that server...right |
| 14:08.49 | DirkGently | _martin: right |
| 14:09.30 | _martin | dirk is the channels the same on different servers or does each server have its own unipue channels |
| 14:10.44 | PhilRod | each server has its own |
| 14:11.06 | PhilRod | well, each network has its own (a network consists of multiple servers connected) |
| 14:11.26 | _martin | so #linux on server A is different than #linux on server B |
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| 14:13.11 | DirkGently | _martin: not if they are part of the same network |
| 14:14.35 | DirkGently | e.g. you are on irc.freenode.net.. I'm on brown.freenode.net |
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| 14:14.53 | DirkGently | different server.. same network |
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| 14:17.46 | _martin | gotcha |
| 14:18.16 | DirkGently | networks include freenode, chatnet, dalnet, ircnet |
| 14:18.20 | DirkGently | etc |
| 14:18.30 | _martin | how do I find a channel that deals with linux and has a minimum of 30 users |
| 14:19.04 | DirkGently | try your distro channel |
| 14:19.26 | _martin | u mean #suse |
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| 14:19.48 | DirkGently | yes |
| 14:20.26 | DirkGently | just type /join #suse |
| 14:20.50 | _martin | all commands for Konversation start with / right |
| 14:21.10 | DirkGently | right |
| 14:21.25 | DirkGently | like /me nods |
| 14:22.12 | _martin | whats /menods |
| 14:23.08 | DirkGently | it changes the way that your text is displayed |
| 14:23.23 | _martin | whats the /me command mean |
| 14:23.24 | DirkGently | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:23.56 | DirkGently | it's just a different way of expressing yourself in the third person |
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| 14:25.11 | DirkGently | just google irc and it you'll find help on using it |
| 14:26.19 | _martin | thanks dirk |
| 14:26.27 | DirkGently | np ;¬) |
| 14:27.04 | DirkGently | oops! np = no problem |
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| 14:27.41 | gresco | hi |
| 14:29.04 | gresco | is it possible to configure kde to open certain windows in specific workspaces? |
| 14:30.46 | benJIman | yes |
| 14:31.07 | benJIman | right click -> advanced -> special window settings -> desktop -> select |
| 14:33.51 | _martin | but what if u have 4 monitors ...can u tell it to open on a specific monitor every time |
| 14:38.02 | Gentle | where does KDE look for items to show as application icons? |
| 14:38.52 | PhilRod | $KDEDIR/share/icons, I think |
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| 14:44.44 | DeadS0ul | hello everybody |
| 14:45.11 | Skrot | dot down? |
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| 14:48.13 | DeadS0ul | seems liek it |
| 14:48.23 | DeadS0ul | can't read that OOo article |
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| 14:52.18 | _martin | no...you can't change the color of your KDE window..dont try it |
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| 14:55.13 | _martin | U will crash your system |
| 14:56.30 | _martin | brb |
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| 14:58.09 | islamguide_com | anyone knows how u can iconify xchat>? |
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| 14:58.26 | PhilRod | do you mean send it to the systray? |
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| 14:58.37 | islamguide_com | ya |
| 14:58.41 | PhilRod | if so, ksystraycmd |
| 14:58.42 | islamguide_com | phi ya |
| 14:58.48 | islamguide_com | phi:ya |
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| 14:59.32 | islamguide_com | fj@AZCOM:~> ksystraycmd |
| 14:59.33 | islamguide_com | ksystraycmd: No command or window specified |
| 14:59.33 | islamguide_com | ksystraycmd: Use --help to get a list of available command line options. |
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| 15:00.08 | Teddy^ | ksystraycmd xchat |
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| 15:01.37 | PhilRod | islamguide_com: see the user guide, section "advanced window management" |
| 15:01.39 | PhilRod | ~ug |
| 15:01.41 | apt | rumour has it, ug is http://docs.kde.org/development/en/kdebase/userguide/ |
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| 15:07.37 | islamguide_com | how do I bypass the connect window in xchat>>? |
| 15:07.45 | islamguide_com | i.e automatically connect |
| 15:07.57 | PhilRod | ask in #xchat |
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| 15:10.33 | chakie_ | heh, the k3b fundraiser is going well i see |
| 15:12.36 | islamguide_com | cool it works. |
| 15:12.40 | islamguide_com | iconify xchat |
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| 15:14.35 | islamguide_com | but how do i make it permanent? |
| 15:14.46 | islamguide_com | iconify each time i start xchat |
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| 15:17.40 | pinotree | _root: wrong channel to ask |
| 15:17.55 | _root | thanks |
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| 15:20.14 | islamguide_com | how do i add start up scriptS? |
| 15:21.06 | pinotree | for what, xchat? |
| 15:21.51 | islamguide_com | ya |
| 15:21.55 | pinotree | not here |
| 15:22.00 | pinotree | --> #xchat |
| 15:22.09 | islamguide_com | no i mean in general |
| 15:22.21 | pinotree | ~autostart |
| 15:22.22 | apt | To start a program or set an environment variable at KDE login, see: http://docs.kde.org/development/en/kdebase/faq/configure.html#id2558687 |
| 15:22.26 | pinotree | islamguide_com: ^^ |
| 15:22.36 | islamguide_com | the ones that run from terminal? |
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| 15:22.56 | islamguide_com | i mean the ones u have to type sth in the terminal to run |
| 15:23.10 | islamguide_com | eg opera --style default |
| 15:23.27 | eidolon | hi folks ' help please! i restored a backup of my home dir after a drive crash ' moving from ubuntu to debian. bth running kde 3.5.1. on the new install, many of my toolbar icons are missing, 'including' the K start menu. how do i get the k start menuy back_ |
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| 15:23.47 | islamguide_com | right click on the taskbar |
| 15:23.47 | eidolon | and my international keyboard layout is hosed, hence the odd punctuation ' but without the kmenu, i can get to system settings |
| 15:23.55 | eidolon | islamguide_com: and then what_ |
| 15:23.59 | islamguide_com | add applet to panel |
| 15:24.06 | islamguide_com | then add kmenu |
| 15:24.10 | eidolon | aha! there it is |
| 15:24.16 | eidolon | i didn think that was an applet |
| 15:24.25 | islamguide_com | to move it right click the kmenu and click move |
| 15:24.40 | eidolon | yup, got it. next question. i mistakenly opened a sidebar on my desktop )universal sidebar=. |
| 15:24.43 | eidolon | how do i get rid of it_ |
| 15:24.49 | islamguide_com | i agree they should make it move obvious |
| 15:24.58 | islamguide_com | right click on taskbar |
| 15:25.07 | islamguide_com | then click remove panel |
| 15:25.09 | eidolon | on the sidebar_ or the task bar_ |
| 15:25.14 | islamguide_com | task |
| 15:25.22 | eidolon | gah |
| 15:25.28 | eidolon | thatś nonintuitive. Ñ'- but yeah, that works. |
| 15:25.33 | eidolon | sorry. basic goofy questions, eh_ |
| 15:25.44 | islamguide_com | it took me some time myself to get past these quirks |
| 15:26.10 | eidolon | and now I have punctuation! |
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| 15:26.52 | islamguide_com | another thing is this setting; right click any window's bar> configure window behaviour> moving > allow resizing of maximised windows |
| 15:27.07 | islamguide_com | i feel like quitting linux because of tt |
| 15:27.20 | eidolon | heh |
| 15:27.25 | islamguide_com | try enabling it and see how hard it is to close max. windows |
| 15:27.31 | eidolon | well, i was running gnome on this machine fora few days until i installed kde again. gnome is worse :) |
| 15:27.55 | islamguide_com | i don't really like the taskbar taking desktop real estate at the top |
| 15:28.03 | islamguide_com | makes it harder to close windows too |
| 15:28.03 | TeaSea | islamguide_com: What are you talking about, I have it enabled all the time and I have no problems closing maximised windows. |
| 15:28.06 | steele | has anyone got working Xgl with KDE? |
| 15:28.13 | steele | I get a lot of glitches |
| 15:28.15 | eidolon | islamguide_com: so audo-hide it? i shrink my taskbar down pretty small. |
| 15:28.22 | TeaSea | And if you don't like the taskbar at the top, why not put it at the bottom? |
| 15:28.50 | islamguide_com | TeaSea: can u close the max. windows with ur eyes close? |
| 15:29.05 | TeaSea | islamguide_com: No, but then again why would you need to? |
| 15:29.19 | TeaSea | Closing your eyes whilst using a computer is somewhat retarded. |
| 15:29.21 | islamguide_com | ya i mean it's just a quirk |
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| 15:29.40 | islamguide_com | it's easy if the X is at the very top right hand corner |
| 15:30.00 | islamguide_com | and faster |
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| 15:30.19 | TeaSea | I can't do it anyway, I have a child panel that comes out at top-right. |
| 15:32.11 | islamguide_com | u mean u hide it>? |
| 15:32.44 | islamguide_com | i think in kde 3.5 u can specify when u want the hidden menu to come up |
| 15:32.53 | islamguide_com | top right, top left etc. |
| 15:32.59 | Death_Wish | has n e 1 successfully use wine for ie6? |
| 15:33.02 | islamguide_com | it used to be just top ir bottom |
| 15:33.10 | islamguide_com | u might wanna use tt setting |
| 15:33.16 | TeaSea | islamguide_com: Yes. |
| 15:33.22 | TeaSea | And I want it to come up at right :D |
| 15:33.37 | TeaSea | It's quite useful to hide it and stuff at top-right. |
| 15:33.52 | islamguide_com | u dun come from a windows background? |
| 15:34.21 | islamguide_com | Death_Wish: haven't fiddled with wine yet sorry.. |
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| 15:34.35 | TeaSea | islamguide_com: I used windows quite a bit, but i've used linux for nigh on 4 years now. |
| 15:35.59 | islamguide_com | i've only recently used linux tts y i find such quirks so bothersome |
| 15:36.21 | islamguide_com | how do u add a search function to kmenu? |
| 15:36.26 | islamguide_com | i tink only suse has it |
| 15:37.27 | islamguide_com | tts the function the new windows vista's bragging abt on it's site |
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| 15:47.46 | islamguide_com | by the way i found an easier way to iconify xchat |
| 15:48.00 | islamguide_com | just right click the entry in the kmenu> edit |
| 15:48.10 | islamguide_com | then check the box place in system tray |
| 15:48.40 | firefly_ | is there a way for a javascript program to read the current status of shift/ctrl/alt in Konqueror? |
| 15:49.28 | firefly_ | it does not seem to support the modifiers or shiftKey/altKey/ctrlKey/metaKey properties on the keydown event :( |
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| 15:50.20 | gresco | benJIman: ok, found it. |
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| 15:59.11 | eidolon | well now this is interesting. |
| 15:59.27 | eidolon | amarok is showing it's playing. like, the levels are bouncing along happily. but ah ain't gettin no audio. |
| 16:00.20 | Hairulfr | Hi all, is there somewhere where I can get more info on the MSN protocol changes, that are done to avoid unwanted IM clients? |
| 16:01.10 | Hairulfr | eidolon: You turned up the volume? And have all the engines/mp3 support? |
| 16:01.16 | PhilRod | Hairulfr: there might be somewhere linked from kopete.kde.org |
| 16:01.17 | eidolon | well, hm. |
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| 16:01.29 | eidolon | yes, volume is up :) i'm fiddling alsamixer. |
| 16:01.49 | Hairulfr | Ok, is it Mp3s? And does it usaully work? |
| 16:01.57 | Hairulfr | Everything plugged in? |
| 16:02.05 | Hairulfr | PhilRod: Thanks! |
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| 16:03.05 | eidolon | oh, this may be an mp3 problem. hmm. hang on a sec. |
| 16:03.16 | eidolon | usually amarok just skips mp3's it can't play though. |
| 16:03.38 | eidolon | ()crrently using the xine engine, btw) |
| 16:03.42 | eidolon | output plugin is alsa. |
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| 16:04.02 | SimAtWork | eidolon: i've seen it just lock up, mor times than i'd liek to admit |
| 16:04.06 | eidolon | yeah |
| 16:04.12 | SimAtWork | eidolon: but now that i've been using the xine engine it's far better. |
| 16:04.15 | eidolon | that's not what's happening. it's actually playing, i just can't hear it :) |
| 16:04.22 | Hairulfr | simmerz: hehe, yeah, min been running good for a while now, |
| 16:04.28 | Hairulfr | woo. |
| 16:04.32 | Hairulfr | SimAtWork: |
| 16:04.54 | eidolon | in alsamixer, i have master, pcm, line, and mic showing values - all else is zilch. but if i got o 'headphone' and try to 'up' it, it doesn't move. |
| 16:05.35 | SimAtWork | has anyone else noticed that on web pages with a lot of html form tags (<input /> etc.) that konq gets really slow? |
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| 16:05.41 | eidolon | 'test sound' in the sound system doesn't play anything. gr. |
| 16:05.50 | SimAtWork | eidolon: maybe you have the wrong sound device? |
| 16:05.56 | SimAtWork | eidolon: what distro are you using? |
| 16:06.08 | eidolon | nope, this was working under gnome.... Chip is correct in alsamixer. debian etc, kde 3.5.1 |
| 16:08.11 | Hairulfr | eidolon: Try playing about with the mixer, |
| 16:08.17 | eidolon | qthat's what i'm doing now |
| 16:09.01 | eidolon | are Headphon and Line jac supposed to be at '0'? i can't seem to move them up. |
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| 16:17.53 | eidolon | bleah. okay, it looks like arts had muted channels somewhere. how annoying. |
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| 16:18.05 | tech9iner | on suse10 / kde 3.5.1 |
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| 16:41.05 | jhutchins | How do I get the "Windows" key on a 104 key keyboard to open the KDE Menu? |
| 16:41.56 | cbr | you cant |
| 16:42.23 | PhilRod | you can, just not easily |
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| 16:42.39 | PhilRod | go to docs.kde.org and click on "faq". It's there |
| 16:43.14 | cbr | is the dot down? |
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| 16:45.00 | islamguide_com | nope i can enter |
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| 16:49.35 | PhilRod | jhutchins: found it? |
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| 16:52.20 | islamguide_com | ya that function would be handy |
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| 16:52.51 | islamguide_com | do any of u know how to make the icons on the quicklaunch menu have that macos effect?? |
| 16:52.59 | islamguide_com | mac os* |
| 16:53.09 | islamguide_com | i remember getting that in mepis or sth |
| 16:53.25 | islamguide_com | also, how do u add a search function to the kmenu like in suse? |
| 16:56.22 | jhutchins | PhilRod: No, haven't found it quite yet. What's annoying is that over the past couple of years that action has come and gone from the default configuration (On Mandrake/Mandriva). |
| 16:57.02 | jhutchins | I like left-window = menu, right-window="dead" (compose), and context menu key = context menu. |
| 16:58.01 | PhilRod | http://docs.kde.org/stable/en/kdebase/faq/panel.html#id2552334 |
| 16:58.54 | islamguide_com | when u press alt tab does a menu come out?? |
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| 17:03.49 | bUscher` | does kde compile with qt 3.3.6? |
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| 17:04.17 | pinotree | marco___: ????? |
| 17:04.26 | marco___ | prova |
| 17:04.32 | PeanutHorst | hey |
| 17:04.32 | pinotree | bUscher`: it should |
| 17:04.56 | PeanutHorst | i just instaled kDE 3.5.1 on my Mandriva 2006 box, just wanna say you guys did an awesome job on it |
| 17:05.08 | pinotree | thanks :) |
| 17:05.16 | PeanutHorst | i love it even more than ice-cream and KDE 3.3.2! |
| 17:05.17 | PeanutHorst | :P |
| 17:06.17 | PhilRod | PeanutHorst: there are lots of developers in #kde-devel if you'd like to thank them there too :-) |
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| 17:10.32 | *** topic/#kde is Latest releases: stable: 3.5.1. See www.kde.org | KDE FAQ: http://docs.kde.org/stable/en/kdebase/faq/ | Please don't flood the channel, use a paste service: http://rafb.net/paste | Please state your distribution and KDE version when asking questions | $OS vs $OS flamewars tiring, don't even *start* you will be banned. That goes for KDE vs Gnome and for web browsers too. |
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| 17:14.21 | spruceguy | hi |
| 17:14.36 | spruceguy | when are we getting kde 3.5 ? |
| 17:15.15 | bUscher` | ? |
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| 17:15.33 | kbrooks | um. |
| 17:15.37 | bUscher` | kde 3.5.1 is already out |
| 17:15.40 | pinotree | strange guy |
| 17:15.41 | kbrooks | web browsers: |
| 17:15.45 | kambei | PhilRod: Awake? |
| 17:15.47 | bUscher` | huch Xx |
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| 17:15.56 | kbrooks | is konqueror a mature browser? |
| 17:16.06 | pinotree | why should not? |
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| 17:16.10 | CHodapp | kbrooks, I've found it more mature than IE... |
| 17:16.16 | kambei | kbrooks: It picks on the other browsers, and calls them names. |
| 17:16.29 | Hazel | my thrash is missing, how can i create it? |
| 17:16.39 | kambei | kbrooks: It can be very immature at times. |
| 17:17.38 | kbrooks | kambei, show me it does. |
| 17:18.02 | kambei | kbrooks: I was making a bad joke. |
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| 17:19.30 | PhilRod | kambei: yes, why? |
| 17:21.04 | kambei | PhilRod: I just wanted to note that the themes to which I was referring earlier (if you recall) were for deKorator. |
| 17:21.11 | rdale | Hazel: if your kde thrashed it would be a bad performance problem. Do you mean Linux 'swap' space? |
| 17:21.26 | PhilRod | kambei: ok |
| 17:21.34 | Hazel | no |
| 17:21.37 | kambei | PhilRod: It is a theme engine that uses pixmaps. |
| 17:21.43 | Hazel | rdale: the icon of the desktop |
| 17:21.49 | rdale | ah |
| 17:21.58 | kambei | Anyway, maybe you don't care. :) |
| 17:22.17 | Hazel | rdale: yesterday i erased it... but i dont know how... |
| 17:22.20 | PhilRod | kambei: useful to know for the next time :-) |
| 17:22.54 | PhilRod | Hazel: right click on desktop-> create new -> link to location. As the URL, enter "trash:/" |
| 17:22.58 | kambei | PhilRod: That's why there was no source. |
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| 17:23.09 | Hazel | PhilRod: oh, thanks |
| 17:23.24 | rdale | ah 'trash' |
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| 17:25.26 | rork | Hi all |
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| 17:26.35 | PhilRod | that's a good candidate for the faq, actually |
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| 17:28.01 | rdale | I couldn't get the trash to appear for ages on a desktop I was configuring because it had 'hidden=true' in trash.desktop - not obvious at all |
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| 17:28.14 | rabauke | Hello! Slightly off topic question. Is it better ta have two harddrives share an IDE-cable or better to have one DVD-drive and one harddisk on each cable? |
| 17:29.00 | kambei | rabauke: Two drives on separate controllers is arguably "better". |
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| 17:29.37 | kambei | Though, there wouldn't be much of an argument. |
| 17:30.05 | rabauke | kambei: so the DVD does slow down the harddisk to its max-dvd-reading speed? |
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| 17:31.07 | kambei | rabauke: They are running in parallel, so they share a maximum throughput. |
| 17:31.14 | rabauke | does not, is what I meant |
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| 17:31.28 | kambei | rabauke: You are correct. |
| 17:32.07 | rabauke | kambei: ok, thanks a lot. I thought the speed of the cable would be defined by the slowest device using it. |
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| 17:51.34 | Azephrahel | Hi. If I try and start kde it crashes out, but if I run it as root first, then run kde it works fine. Is there a fix to this problem? |
| 17:52.15 | PhilRod | what error do you get when you try to start kde as a user? |
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| 17:54.25 | linuksamiko | Saluton, I have a question concernig K-Menu. I have a problem with one of the entries wich I try to delete. Every program which is in the entry "internet" can't be deleted from the menu. I tryed it half a dozen times with the editor but the programms will not go away what can I do? |
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| 17:54.45 | Azephrahel | It complains first on owner of /tmp/.ICE-unix must be set to root, then on KSMServer: error listening for connections, then KSMServer:aborting |
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| 17:55.37 | TeaSea | Azephrahel: /tmp/.ICE-unix must be chmod 1777 |
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| 17:55.54 | linuksamiko | maybe I should say that I can add new programs to my menu. Other Folders like system of grafphik can be changed without any problem |
| 17:55.57 | TeaSea | Put the following in /etc/sysconfig/createfiles |
| 17:56.01 | TeaSea | /tmp/.ICE-unix dir 1777 root root |
| 17:56.15 | Azephrahel | TeaSea: The issue is /tmp is on a ramdrive, so it dissapears every boot. |
| 17:56.22 | TeaSea | That'll create /tmp/.ICE-unix with root ownership and correct permissions every time you boot. |
| 17:57.00 | Azephrahel | and /etc/sysconfig is not standard to unix, linux or anyting. thats very vendor specific. |
| 17:57.25 | TeaSea | Funny, I did that when I did LFS. |
| 17:57.30 | TeaSea | Not very vendor-specific if it's on LFS. |
| 17:57.45 | PhilRod | Azephrahel: then s,/etc/sysconfig,whatever the appropriate directory is on your distro, |
| 17:57.46 | Azephrahel | Anyway, so I'll kludge it and make that directory on boot.... now... why on earth woudln't kde show its programs if they are symlinked in from another directory? |
| 17:57.55 | Azephrahel | TeaSea: Vendor/Implimentation. Same diff. |
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| 17:58.17 | PhilRod | Azephrahel: where isn't kde showing programs? where are they symlinked from/to? |
| 17:59.01 | Azephrahel | PhilRod: They are symlinked from another mount point, and no icons or programs show up. I can manually run konq, but I get no icon for it. |
| 17:59.12 | TeaSea | Azephrahel: Okay, wait. |
| 17:59.15 | TeaSea | Different idea! |
| 17:59.20 | Azephrahel | And I symlinked all of kde's binaries into /usr/bin/ |
| 18:00.03 | TeaSea | Do you think putting touch /tmp/.ICE-unix into a boot script then chmodding and chowning it properly will work? |
| 18:00.33 | Azephrahel | TeaSea: probably. |
| 18:03.24 | Azephrahel | I dunon.. is there something like a KDE_LIBRARY or KDE_BASE enviornment flag that oculd be set to tell it where all of its programs icons etc are? |
| 18:03.52 | PhilRod | Azephrahel: *where* do "no icons or programs show up"? |
| 18:04.12 | PhilRod | in the k menu? |
| 18:04.36 | Azephrahel | PhilRod: In the kde start menu there are no program icons, on the desktop there _is_ a house icon, I have to admit, but when I click on it, it asks me to select which program to open it with! |
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| 18:06.00 | PhilRod | do you mean that there are no entries in the K menu, or just that the application entries are missing icons? |
| 18:06.18 | PhilRod | and please describe the other weirdnesses of your set up |
| 18:06.35 | Azephrahel | PhilRod: the kmenu has the settings & system menu submenus, and run command, lock session and logout. |
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| 18:07.57 | Azephrahel | PhilRod: OK, I took the kde packages, unpacked them in a different directory, and made symlinks for all those binaries libs icon directories etcetera into /usr/bin/ /usr/lib/ etcetera |
| 18:08.32 | Azephrahel | PhilRod: If I run konqeror on its own via /usr/bin/konqueror it works |
| 18:09.20 | Azephrahel | If I do something silly like try and actually configure konq, I get "empty page" in the configure window, but othre than that, it works. |
| 18:09.23 | TeaSea | Can I ask why you did that? Seems quite pointless here. |
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| 18:09.44 | PhilRod | well, aside from the obvious advice of unpacking everything in the default place, so that it works, you can find some hints on relevant environment variables for using KDE in a non-standard directory at: |
| 18:10.15 | Azephrahel | TeaSea: Workign on a very very small boot device, but it has larger storage available. And the request to have it run a full desktop came after the whole thing was almost copmleted. |
| 18:10.20 | PhilRod | http://freebsd.kde.org/howtos/fbsd-kde-head-and-ports.php |
| 18:10.39 | PhilRod | that information's partly FreeBSD-specific, but some of it should be relevant to you |
| 18:11.28 | TeaSea | Azephrahel: Was creating /opt or /usr/opt and adding the relevant dirs to $PATH and $LD_CONFIG_PATH not an option? |
| 18:12.00 | rdale | Is it possible to put a menu structure in a KDE profile? |
| 18:12.20 | PhilRod | dinner bbl |
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| 18:18.45 | Azephrahel | I"m not even sure if putting it in /op or /usr/opt would help at all, considering I just setup all the env variables and its doing the same junk. |
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| 18:32.26 | Azephrahel | Damn.... OK, why woudln't kcontrol, or any control panel for that matter, actually work? |
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| 18:36.55 | Azephrahel | Odd... does qtdir need to be set? |
| 18:39.26 | Azephrahel | humm... maybe it just doesn't know what applications are installed... how is it supposed to know? |
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| 19:00.42 | Azephrahel | OK this might help... I get a WARNING: No K menu group with X-KDE-BaseGroup=settings found ! Defaulting to Settings |
| 19:00.52 | Azephrahel | so what would be missing such that it coudlnt' find that? |
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| 19:06.41 | Azephrahel | crap thats what it was... it needed the stuff in /usr/etc to be there... weird. |
| 19:07.11 | SuperLag | OT... but any of you guys use OpenWrt? |
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| 19:34.41 | Rods_Tiger | you know the 'weather' applet for KDE's dock? It seems to contradict itself. I've selected a location from its own menu, and it says it doesn't exist. |
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| 19:37.23 | Fri13 | Hmm...... |
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| 19:37.37 | the_weanus | DCC SEND fuck_#gentoo |
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| 19:39.15 | StevenR | thanks PhilRod :) |
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| 19:47.29 | Donvinzk | I have both kdesvn and compare installed, and when I try to diff, kdesvn complains that "Could not find our KompareViewPart" |
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| 19:48.00 | Donvinzk | anyone know where this could come from ? |
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| 19:49.08 | Rods_Tiger | I'm having considerable trouble with KWeather. It doesn't work. |
| 19:49.09 | StevenR | Donvinzk: you have kdesdk package installed? |
| 19:49.32 | StevenR | Rods_Tiger: "doesn't work" meaning what exactly? |
| 19:49.43 | rhican | hey it's probably my fault, but kde hangs while starting up, (it continues if i manually kill some xrdb --merge /tmp/kde-rhican process) a known issue? (gentoo/kde3.4) |
| 19:49.48 | Donvinzk | StevenR: no... |
| 19:49.55 | Rods_Tiger | StevenR: it doesn't recognise the chosen weather station |
| 19:50.08 | Rods_Tiger | (or others) |
| 19:50.08 | StevenR | Donvinzk: there you go then....install it, cos it contains that kompare stuff |
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| 19:50.22 | Donvinzk | StevenR: but I installed kompare separately |
| 19:50.28 | Donvinzk | I can launch it |
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| 19:50.39 | StevenR | Donvinzk: distro? |
| 19:50.42 | Rods_Tiger | It's KWeather 2.1.0 (using KDE 3.4.3) according to it's 'about' |
| 19:50.43 | infotek411 | korganizer where can i get US holidays? |
| 19:51.14 | StevenR | Rods_Tiger: can you pastebin your ~/.kde/share/config/KWeatherServicerc please? |
| 19:51.15 | Rods_Tiger | If I go to configure KWeather, there's two options - Display and Weather Service. |
| 19:51.24 | Donvinzk | StevenR: when I input kbuildsycoca, it tells me kio (KSycoca): ERROR: No database available! could this be linked ? |
| 19:51.28 | Donvinzk | StevenR: gentoo |
| 19:52.11 | StevenR | Rods_Tiger: and your weather_panelappletrc from the same dir |
| 19:52.15 | Rods_Tiger | From Weather Service I can choose a weather location. I do so, and then in Display, it will perpetually say Location 'Unknown station'. |
| 19:52.44 | StevenR | Rods_Tiger: ok, well lets see what the config files look like then |
| 19:53.01 | Shirakawasuna | Rods_Tiger: same here (on gentoo + new kde) |
| 19:53.06 | Rods_Tiger | Typically, I would want to choose London/City but if I choose any others, the same behavour happens. |
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| 19:53.22 | Rods_Tiger | That's largely what I mean by 'doesn't work'. |
| 19:53.23 | Shirakawasuna | kweather just killed kicker when I tried to have it "update" :) |
| 19:53.27 | StevenR | Rods_Tiger: ok, well lets see what the config files look like then |
| 19:53.41 | Rods_Tiger | what do they look like? |
| 19:53.54 | StevenR | Donvinzk: that's a little scary.... |
| 19:54.00 | infotek411 | does anyone use korganiser? |
| 19:54.08 | StevenR | Rods_Tiger: read up, I told you which files I'd like you to pastebin for me:) |
| 19:54.58 | Rods_Tiger | Ah, that's a file? I'll find it. |
| 19:55.20 | StevenR | Donvinzk: try buildsycoca --noincremental |
| 19:56.02 | StevenR | Rods_Tiger: there are two files I'd like you to show me |
| 19:56.18 | Donvinzk | StevenR: bash: buildsycoca: command not found, my gentoo is a bit too gentooesque :-| |
| 19:56.29 | Rods_Tiger | ok. I'll have to find them first |
| 19:56.36 | StevenR | Donvinzk: stick a k on the front, my typo |
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| 19:56.56 | StevenR | Rods_Tiger: I told you where they should be too |
| 19:57.09 | Rods_Tiger | [WEATHERSTATIONS] |
| 19:57.09 | Rods_Tiger | stations=EGLC |
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| 19:59.22 | Shirakawasuna | heres' my weather_panelappletrc http://pastebin.ca/45487 |
| 19:59.33 | Shirakawasuna | *I have the same problem as Rods_Tiger |
| 20:00.44 | Rods_Tiger | report_location=0000 |
| 20:00.45 | Rods_Tiger | reportview_size=450,325 |
| 20:00.45 | Rods_Tiger | smallview_mode=1 |
| 20:01.46 | Donvinzk | StevenR: does not fix my pb, got a ton of warnings |
| 20:02.03 | Donvinzk | for example kbuildsycoca: WARNING: '/usr/share/applications/realplay.desktop' specifies undefined mimetype/servicetype 'audio/amr-wb-encrypted' |
| 20:02.06 | Rods_Tiger | (I've ignored the log file stuff - I'm not using it) |
| 20:02.49 | StevenR | Rods_Tiger: please put them in a pastebin, and paste the whole files...try rafb.net/paste |
| 20:02.58 | Rods_Tiger | I just did |
| 20:03.16 | Rods_Tiger | [General Options] |
| 20:03.17 | Rods_Tiger | log_file_name= |
| 20:03.17 | Rods_Tiger | logging=false |
| 20:03.17 | Shirakawasuna | Rods_Tiger: no, you pasted in the room |
| 20:03.18 | Rods_Tiger | report_location=0000 |
| 20:03.18 | Rods_Tiger | reportview_size=450,325 |
| 20:03.18 | Rods_Tiger | smallview_mode=1 |
| 20:03.22 | Shirakawasuna | Rods_Tiger: pastebin! |
| 20:03.28 | Rods_Tiger | again? |
| 20:03.29 | Shirakawasuna | Rods_Tiger: pastebin.ca |
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| 20:04.26 | Rods_Tiger | anyway, it doesn't work. I keep getting a rectangle up the top corner of the screen every now and then saying that the weather station doesn't exist. |
| 20:05.22 | vicks | hi. is there a way to make konqueror use the fancy ajax stuff on gmail (hard to live without it =) ). i'm on kubuntu dapper. |
| 20:07.05 | vicks | as i understand it this isn't really konquerors fault, but still, is there some hack to apply ;) |
| 20:07.21 | thiago | vicks: change the user agent |
| 20:08.01 | Rods_Tiger | there's nothing I can do about this weather problem, is there? |
| 20:08.09 | StevenR | Rods_Tiger: please use a pastebin, and pastebin the two files I asked you to. Continually saying it doesn't work will not get you anywhere. I'm trying to help you, but I'm not going to try and work out which bits of the stuff you pasted goes where. Please use the pastebin |
| 20:08.12 | Rods_Tiger | it's been irritating for weeks |
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| 20:08.52 | vicks | thiago: to what? i tried firefox, and mozilla on winxp, but gmail somehow sees through it |
| 20:09.04 | Rods_Tiger | ok. The following is the file called "kweather service rcs" |
| 20:09.08 | Rods_Tiger | I mean rc |
| 20:09.18 | StevenR | Rods_Tiger: USE A PASTEBIN |
| 20:09.30 | Rods_Tiger | here: [WEATHERSTATIONS] |
| 20:09.31 | Rods_Tiger | stations=EGLC |
| 20:09.34 | StevenR | vicks: change gmail to use standard view |
| 20:09.36 | Shirakawasuna | Rods_Tiger: argh |
| 20:09.44 | Shirakawasuna | Rods_Tiger: you need to read closer. pastebin does not = paste |
| 20:09.57 | Shirakawasuna | Rods_Tiger: pastebin is a site where you upload a config file and then post and URL to it in here |
| 20:09.59 | Rods_Tiger | the other one is the other one. |
| 20:10.10 | StevenR | Rods_Tiger: this is a channel. NOT a pastebin. try rafb.net/paste please |
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| 20:11.13 | StevenR | vicks: should be a link at the bottom of your gmail inbox page that will allow you |
| 20:11.45 | vicks | ok, checkin it out now, misunderstood you at first |
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| 20:12.11 | Rods_Tiger | "Cannot find raftb.net/paste on irc" - never mind, this is already too complicated. |
| 20:12.12 | StevenR | vicks: change the user agent first, then gmail to std view |
| 20:12.15 | pinotree | StevenR: sorry, i was having dinner :( |
| 20:12.17 | Shirakawasuna | Rods_Tiger: it's no irc |
| 20:12.25 | Shirakawasuna | *sigh* |
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| 20:13.53 | vicks | StevenR: i don't get any such choice at gmail. what useragent should i use? |
| 20:14.13 | StevenR | vicks: 2mins, and I'll check for ya |
| 20:14.27 | vicks | thanks |
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| 20:16.24 | storyteller | Hello all |
| 20:17.29 | storyteller | I've been using firefox as my web browser for years now, and now that it's gotten bulky and slow like the old mozilla suite I'm trying to migrate all my web activity to konqi... |
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| 20:17.53 | storyteller | I have a few questions though |
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| 20:18.21 | kirun | well, that's what we're here for :) |
| 20:18.27 | storyteller | My search toolbar only appearts if on on a remote page, not when browsing locally...can I change that? |
| 20:18.50 | StevenR | vicks: I logged in to gmail, changed my user agent to mozilla 1.7.3, then gmail showed me "You are currently viewing Google Mail in basic HTML. Switch to standard view" at the top, I click the link and gmail appears |
| 20:18.53 | storyteller | sorry for spelling, just woke up lol |
| 20:19.25 | pes4hr | i'm using dapper/ubuntu, which has kde 3.5.1. i'm having the problem that anytime matlab refreshes a figure, it steals focus, regardless of the "focus stealing prevention" level i have set |
| 20:19.45 | vicks | StevenR: so, you didn't have any user agent set when you logged in? |
| 20:19.47 | pes4hr | does anyone use kde/matlab and have any advice? |
| 20:19.52 | StevenR | vicks: no |
| 20:20.11 | vicks | ok, i'll try this. thanks so far |
| 20:20.12 | storyteller | I used to use googles firefox page as my home page...I thought konqisd searchbar would make me not have to use it anymore which would rock...but it disappears when i browse locally lol |
| 20:20.28 | Pinaraf | use gg |
| 20:20.44 | Pinaraf | gg:test in the adress bar will search test in google |
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| 20:21.25 | storyteller | So does that mean there is no way to keep my searchbar present locally? |
| 20:22.31 | StevenR | woow...gmail in konqueror looks much better than ffox |
| 20:22.51 | pradeepto | speaking of gg, how come it doesnot work with minicli? |
| 20:22.58 | pradeepto | I thought it did :( |
| 20:23.09 | Pinaraf | storyteller: you don't need any searchbar |
| 20:23.28 | Pinaraf | gg => google, ggi => google images, ggl => google I'm lucky, wp => wikipedia... |
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| 20:23.41 | pradeepto | StevenR: gmail works pretty cool on konq minus the the activex stuff I think |
| 20:23.47 | Pinaraf | pradeepto: what's minicli ? |
| 20:23.51 | Pinaraf | pradeepto: ??? |
| 20:23.57 | Pinaraf | ActiveX are IE only things ! |
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| 20:23.59 | pinotree | Pinaraf: Alt+F2 |
| 20:24.05 | vicks | ah, now it worked. it turned out that it was the google.com user agent that was used (as the domain is mail.google.com, didn't think of that). thanks StevenR |
| 20:24.07 | Pinaraf | it works there ! |
| 20:24.07 | StevenR | pradeepto: looks much better, seems to work fine too |
| 20:24.08 | pradeepto | Pinaraf: ALT + F2 |
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| 20:24.29 | Pinaraf | alt+f2 => gg:something works |
| 20:24.33 | pradeepto | StevenR: I agree and I am using it too |
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| 20:24.50 | pradeepto | but does the auto update work |
| 20:25.05 | storyteller | gmail tells me my browser is not fully supported |
| 20:25.15 | Pinaraf | storyteller: it's google stupidity |
| 20:25.19 | Pinaraf | change your user agent to mozilla |
| 20:25.25 | Pinaraf | and all features will be available |
| 20:25.29 | Hairulfr | the use konqueror and send other id |
| 20:25.29 | storyteller | In konqi's settings? |
| 20:25.30 | vicks | do you get tiny fontsize in gmail? |
| 20:25.41 | Pinaraf | storyteller: in konq settings yet |
| 20:25.47 | Pinaraf | yes |
| 20:25.49 | woland_ | does anyone know how i can make the address bar font in firefox and opera non microscopic on kde 3.4/openbsd? i have as many fonts as i could find installed, and tried just tweaking kde's theme but nothing |
| 20:26.13 | Pinaraf | firefox isn't a KDE app => not related to KDE settings |
| 20:26.20 | Pinaraf | the same may apply for opera (to check...) |
| 20:26.21 | pradeepto | Pinaraf: yes gg: <$something> does work |
| 20:26.28 | pradeepto | I forgot the : |
| 20:26.40 | StevenR | vicks: yeah, but you can ctrl-+ it bigger :) |
| 20:27.18 | Shirakawasuna | hmm....I think my KDE install has some problems... |
| 20:27.20 | vicks | heh, yeah. |
| 20:27.55 | Shirakawasuna | "edit K menu" doesn't work from either right clicking the K menu button or from kcontrol (I click and nothing happens) |
| 20:28.02 | Shirakawasuna | but I can run kmenuedit |
| 20:28.21 | Shirakawasuna | would that be a problem with things being linked incorrectly? |
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| 20:29.37 | vicks | while i'm in here. is there a way to ditch kde wallet? it keeps bugging me everywhere (kopete , konqueror etc.) |
| 20:30.14 | Pinaraf | Shirakawasuna: what distrib ? |
| 20:30.18 | Shirakawasuna | gentoo |
| 20:30.23 | Pinaraf | vicks: why ditch it ? |
| 20:30.27 | Shirakawasuna | I just switched from gnome, which mayh have caused some problems |
| 20:30.47 | Shirakawasuna | essentially all I did was change USE flags, emerge - |
| 20:31.03 | Shirakawasuna | *-DuaNv world, then emerge kde, then emerge -C gnome |
| 20:31.10 | Shirakawasuna | if anyone in here uses gentoo |
| 20:31.22 | vicks | Pinaraf: alternatively, is there a way to make it not ask for my password anytime i want to log in to something? |
| 20:31.31 | vicks | thats why it's anying me |
| 20:31.38 | vicks | anoying* |
| 20:31.48 | Pinaraf | you can use an empty password |
| 20:32.05 | vicks | ah, nice. didn't know that |
| 20:32.05 | Pinaraf | or be curious and look at the settings |
| 20:32.13 | storyteller | Would I have to hack kde and recompile to keep my searchbar when browsing locally? |
| 20:32.25 | Pinaraf | storyteller: no |
| 20:32.36 | Pinaraf | it's in profile settings |
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| 20:33.57 | storyteller | And how are those settings accessed? |
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| 20:34.14 | vicks | Pinaraf: ah, thanks |
| 20:34.49 | Pinaraf | I can't explain people where the settings are : it's too random to translate them back from french to english |
| 20:35.37 | Pinaraf | storyteller: you launch konq, switch to file management profile, add the search bar, and then save the settings |
| 20:35.51 | Pinaraf | to add the search bar it's in configure > toolbars |
| 20:36.12 | vicks | bye and thanks all |
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| 20:39.27 | pradeepto | StevenR: does the auto update feature work with konq? If so I would like to know the settings hat you have done to konq on your box. |
| 20:39.45 | pradeepto | *that you |
| 20:40.43 | StevenR | pradeepto: I don't know if it does or not..I use gmail through kmail mostly, and firefox when I'm in uni on the suns (cos their kde build is old and sucky and broken) |
| 20:41.37 | pradeepto | StevenR: hmmm speaking of Kmail I did configure it yesterday for my gmail account |
| 20:41.51 | pradeepto | Some how the latest mails were not retrieved |
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| 20:43.02 | pradeepto | StevenR: iirc, almost 103 mails were not downloaded and it even gave a message saying that :) |
| 20:43.26 | tonsofpcs | anyone here ever have a problem where GTK apps segfault on non-primary displays? |
| 20:43.33 | storyteller | It will not allow me to add search toolbar from file managemewnt mode |
| 20:44.09 | storyteller | I avoid gtk like the plague...sorry i can't be of help |
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| 20:45.55 | tonsofpcs | well i need xchat and firefox ;) |
| 20:46.13 | storyteller | Y? |
| 20:46.24 | storyteller | xchat sux |
| 20:46.25 | StevenR | tonsofpcs: no you don't :) |
| 20:46.36 | storyteller | kvirc is much more friendly :) |
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| 20:46.49 | tonsofpcs | StevenR -- yea i do ;) I have all my scripts in xchat already and firefox actually renders pages properly while allowing me to use extensions |
| 20:46.54 | cd_rom | i finish compile kde 3.5 using konstruct, how can i start new kde, i also added export KDEDIR=~/kde3.5 and such in .bash_profile? |
| 20:47.12 | StevenR | pradeepto: what are your kmail settings and gmail settings for pop? can you provide screenshots? |
| 20:47.13 | cd_rom | what else i need to to? |
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| 20:47.40 | storyteller | Only gtk app I really use anymore is audacity...I wish someone would write a decent recording studio app in qt |
| 20:48.01 | tonsofpcs | well here's my problem: I got vncserver loading Xvnc, but anything that uses gtk will draw an outline and some grey then segfault if loaded on that display. It seems as if it might be related to gdm not running on that display. anyone know why/how to fix it? so I got vncserver loading Xvnc, it's loading directly to the windowmanager without login (KDE in this case), not what I prefer, but i'm fine with that; but anything that uses SCIM/ |
| 20:48.10 | tonsofpcs | scratch the SCIM from that |
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| 20:49.19 | tonsofpcs | stupid windows paste buffer |
| 20:50.18 | storyteller | I think I may have to save my web browsing profile over my file magment profile, but I don't want to mess anything up... |
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| 20:54.42 | main | hi |
| 20:54.49 | main | where does kde store user-installed icons? |
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| 20:55.53 | Bille2 | main: $HOME/.kde/share/icons |
| 20:58.01 | main | but it wont appear in the icon dialog |
| 20:58.04 | main | when i set icons for desktop |
| 20:58.39 | storyteller | I tried saving my web browsing profile so I could copy whatever section is responsible for enabling searchbar to my file magament profile, but there is no reference to seach toolbar anywhere in the profile |
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| 20:59.53 | Shirakawasuna | I'm having problems getting kcontrol on my K Menu |
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| 21:00.39 | Shirakawasuna | first I was having troubles editing menus - neither the right click dialog on K Menu or the button in kcontrol > panel settings work. Running kmenuedit from "run" works |
| 21:00.51 | Shirakawasuna | but after I add an entry and save, it doesn't show up on the k menu |
| 21:01.10 | storyteller | Can anyone tell me where I might find info on hacking profiles in konqi? |
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| 21:01.21 | Shirakawasuna | I'll run kmenuedit again, and the entry I created is gone |
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| 21:02.20 | nuxil | why does kde use artsd.? arts is a pize of crap |
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| 21:03.06 | storyteller | nuxil: Gogle asound.rc |
| 21:03.10 | storyteller | google* |
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| 21:03.33 | nuxil | artsd keeps on bloking my my sound for other apps |
| 21:03.46 | nuxil | like mplayer. amarok etc etc |
| 21:03.52 | nuxil | i need to kill it |
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| 21:04.11 | nuxil | storyteller i'll google.. see what i says |
| 21:05.07 | storyteller | Try this: |
| 21:05.09 | storyteller | http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Allow_multiple_programs_to_play_sound_at_once |
| 21:06.22 | storyteller | As well laid out as most configuration options in kde are, I find it surprising that profiles are such a pita |
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| 21:07.19 | nuxil | indeed |
| 21:07.49 | storyteller | Appearently google searchbar is a plugin, and thus not configurable |
| 21:07.51 | nuxil | hope kde 4 will not have that issue when it comes out in the furture some times |
| 21:07.57 | storyteller | Amen |
| 21:08.06 | nuxil | yea Amen :D |
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| 21:09.21 | Shirakawasuna | could anyone help me with my annoying kcontrol issue? I tend to mess with that kind of thing fairly ofte |
| 21:09.22 | storyteller | I hope someday to learn enough programming to help with kde development...I really like kde, but there's a few things I think could be done better...but until I know how to do them I can't really complain lol |
| 21:10.27 | storyteller | Shirakawasuna: When did this issue begin? After a kde upgrade or from a fresh install? |
| 21:10.27 | nuxil | storyteller, thats ture.. indeed ture |
| 21:10.28 | _nadim | hi, is there an XSLT editor/debugger available for linux and/or KDE? |
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| 21:11.11 | Shirakawasuna | storyteller: fresh install |
| 21:11.20 | pinotree | _nadim: kxsldbg, in kdesdk |
| 21:11.33 | Shirakawasuna | storyteller: but I was using gnome before, and don't know if the two installations interacted |
| 21:11.44 | nuxil | well only workaround that works,, is to disable kde's sound system :\.. well atlest i get sound in my apps now :) mplayer. amarok. mythtv and the others. |
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| 21:12.10 | main | hmm |
| 21:12.10 | _nadim | pinotree: whatsk kdesdk? |
| 21:12.24 | pinotree | no, sorry, it's in kdewebdev |
| 21:12.45 | storyteller | _nadim: Tried OXygen? |
| 21:13.43 | storyteller | I don't know anything about xslt, but googling turned up OXygen |
| 21:14.39 | storyteller | Konqi seems to make a good web browser, but it's integration between file management and web browsing is not exactly seamless... |
| 21:15.58 | storyteller | I'd like to make konqi hide it's sidebar when accessing web pages and keep the google searchbar when browsing locally, but neither seems to be possible |
| 21:16.44 | storyteller | I mean I can manually hide the sidebar with F9, but I'd like to make it autohide when browsing remotely |
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| 21:22.57 | _martin | hello |
| 21:23.12 | Anon9498 | hi i am having some trouble with arts on xandros |
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| 21:23.34 | B0neTruper | how could i do a kde like this -> http://www.gentoo.org/images/shots/desktop-rehcmx.jpg ?? |
| 21:23.57 | Anon9498 | i cannot get any sound unless i switch stuff over to alsa. and i cannot get kde to produce any sound at all. can anyone help me? |
| 21:24.18 | Blissex | Anon9498: which sound do you want KDE to produce? |
| 21:25.03 | Skrot | B0neTruper: That looks like xmms (media player, top), superkaramba widgets on the right, setting the kicker transparent, some weird colorscheme and icon set |
| 21:25.15 | Anon9498 | Blissex well it for instance when i use arts in xmms, the slider just sits there and it reads 0:00 as if it is paused. when trying to watch streaming video the same thing happens. it just sits there as if it is paused |
| 21:25.38 | Skrot | B0neTruper: Perhaps if you specifify which part of that desktop you like it would be easier to make a sugguestion |
| 21:26.00 | _nadim | storyteller: is that open source? |
| 21:26.06 | B0neTruper | Skrot look at this http://www.gentoo.org/main/en/shots.xml |
| 21:26.09 | Blissex | Anon9498: that looks like your card does not support card sharing/multiplexing. |
| 21:26.21 | B0neTruper | it's the first, on the top |
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| 21:26.50 | Skrot | B0neTruper: Yeah, it says he/she uses plastik window decoration and keramik style. |
| 21:27.04 | Skrot | B0neTruper: You'll probably find the SuperKaramba widgets on www.kde-look.org |
| 21:27.05 | B0neTruper | so that's it? |
| 21:27.08 | Blissex | Anon9498: open the 'Sound&Multimedia:Sound System:Hardware' panel and click on 'Override device location' and specify 'plug:dmix' |
| 21:27.08 | Anon9498 | Blissex well the sound used to work fine. how can i fix this? test on kcontrol doesnt even produce any sound |
| 21:27.14 | B0neTruper | tjanx Skrot |
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| 21:27.56 | Anon9498 | Blissex sorry i am on a web irc client. is that and i see a smily face between plug and mix. what should be there? |
| 21:28.27 | Blissex | Anon9498: a ":" and a "d" |
| 21:29.12 | storyteller | _nadim: Sorry, it's not open. It has a 30 day trial download :( |
| 21:30.08 | Anon9498 | Blissex i entered plug:dmix and it didnt do anything. xmms still is just sitting there |
| 21:30.24 | Blissex | Anon9498: you have to that to XMMS too. |
| 21:31.14 | Anon9498 | Blissex and every other application? |
| 21:31.19 | Blissex | Anon9498: yes... |
| 21:31.39 | Blissex | Anon9498: except those that use aRts for output (which is the KDE Sound System). |
| 21:31.51 | SimAtWork | storyteller: what softwre has a 30 day trial on linux?? |
| 21:32.01 | Anon9498 | Blissex well everything worked fine before, then it all just stopped. |
| 21:32.47 | storyteller | SimAtWork: OXygen xml/xlst editor |
| 21:33.05 | storyteller | xslt* |
| 21:33.22 | storyteller | _nadim: See if anything here is helpful to you: http://www.xmlsoftware.com/xsleditors.html |
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| 21:34.34 | storyteller | Shirakawasuna: When you make changes in kmenueditor, does it appear to save your changes when you close it? |
| 21:35.11 | storyteller | Shirakawasuna: You may need to manually save your changes |
| 21:35.14 | Shirakawasuna | storyteller: yes. It says that it is updating the environment (or something along those lines) |
| 21:35.21 | Shirakawasuna | storyteller: and I click on the save button |
| 21:35.35 | Shirakawasuna | storyteller: I'm going to restart KDE before complaining more about it, though :) |
| 21:35.39 | storyteller | Try refreshing desktop? |
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| 21:37.29 | EvilGuru | I need to view a calendar |
| 21:37.29 | storyteller | _nadim: Also read through this and see if it helps: http://programming.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=05/02/24/1650248 |
| 21:37.35 | EvilGuru | just to see a lot of dates, how |
| 21:37.39 | storyteller | EvilGuru: Click your clock |
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| 21:38.03 | tech9iner | oi phone.. unexpected conf call... Ciao 4 now ;] |
| 21:38.04 | Sma1 | Why in the world does kdevelop require kdelibs-3.4? One would think 3.5 would be okay |
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| 21:38.15 | EvilGuru | thanks |
| 21:38.23 | storyteller | np :) |
| 21:38.24 | thx8311 | What's the command to reset KDE's menu system system wide? |
| 21:39.03 | storyteller | Sma1: What version of kdevelop? I'm using kde-3.5 and kdevelop without issue |
| 21:39.29 | Sma1 | did you have to install kdelibs-3.4? |
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| 21:41.29 | storyteller | No |
| 21:41.45 | storyteller | I've never had kdelibs-3.4 on this machine |
| 21:41.56 | Sma1 | Heh.. |
| 21:43.03 | storyteller | I only installed this os a couple of weeks ago and installed kde-3.5 as my initial wm |
| 21:43.29 | storyteller | Connecti0on reset by pear? |
| 21:43.48 | storyteller | Angry fruit... |
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| 21:46.08 | storyteller | Hmmm...guess I'll stick with firefox for a web browser for now :( |
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| 21:48.33 | storyteller | Thanks for the help folks |
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| 21:50.29 | _knoppix | hi! |
| 21:50.36 | Johnay | I no longer have an option to shut down the computer from KDE. Any idea how I get it back? I haven't been able to find one in system settings |
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| 21:51.52 | SimAtWork | ok guys, i haev a tricky question re to konsole ! |
| 21:51.57 | SimAtWork | i can seave the profile and pull it back up |
| 21:52.16 | SimAtWork | buti want to the profile to start by "sshing" into certian computers (in certain tabs). |
| 21:52.19 | SimAtWork | anyone know how i could do that? |
| 21:52.34 | SimAtWork | somehow i saved this setting for one of my tabs, but i don't know how! |
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| 21:54.44 | henk | where do i set applications that i want to run at login? |
| 21:55.01 | pinotree | ~autostart |
| 21:55.02 | apt | To start a program or set an environment variable at KDE login, see: http://docs.kde.org/development/en/kdebase/faq/configure.html#id2558687 |
| 21:55.05 | pinotree | henk: ^^ |
| 21:55.16 | henk | thnx |
| 21:56.19 | henk | is a gui interface like gnome's under development ? |
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| 22:00.28 | Dhraakellian | or you could just run the apps you want running when you boot up and then save your session |
| 22:00.46 | Dhraakellian | s/boot up/log in/ |
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| 22:03.44 | _nadim | thanks for the links guys |
| 22:04.37 | henk | apt & Dhraakellian session restore is not working fo rme it seems |
| 22:04.39 | apt | henk: okay |
| 22:05.49 | Dhraakellian | henk: kcontrol > KDE Components > Session Manager |
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| 22:06.21 | Dhraakellian | in the "On Login" section, there are three options for what to do when you start KDE |
| 22:06.33 | Dhraakellian | I have it set to restore a manually saved session |
| 22:07.11 | Dhraakellian | that might help. If you already have that set, and it doesn't work, then I don't know offhand |
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| 22:08.11 | henk | Dhraakellian i mean it does not work with my application, things like amarok get saved with a session but eg synergys doesnt |
| 22:08.24 | Dhraakellian | ah |
| 22:08.34 | Dhraakellian | and I don't know what that is, actually |
| 22:08.56 | henk | Dhraakellian its one of the most usefull applications in the world actualy |
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| 22:10.39 | henk | it lets you define one computer as a keyboard/mouse server and others as clients. After that you can define that your windows laptop is sitting right of your linux desktop and your apple ibook is on the left and you get to control al of them with the mouse and keyoard of your desktop |
| 22:10.46 | CPUFreak91 | what does this error mean?: QLayout: Cannot add null widget to QVBoxLayout/unnamed |
| 22:11.31 | henk | very nice to move your mouse cursor accros diffent screen on different computers with different osses |
| 22:11.46 | pinotree | CPUFreak91: nothing so important, just a warning |
| 22:11.58 | CPUFreak91 | yakuake has a blank screen :( |
| 22:12.08 | pinotree | ah |
| 22:12.15 | pinotree | CPUFreak91: --> #yakuake |
| 22:12.41 | Dhraakellian | henk: in that case, I refer you to the link posted above |
| 22:12.45 | CPUFreak91 | thank you |
| 22:12.58 | pinotree | Sho_: ^^^ |
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| 22:18.44 | GraveDigger | is there a kde tool for video capturing screen contents? |
| 22:18.50 | GraveDigger | like gvidcap/xvidcap |
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| 22:18.56 | GraveDigger | but for kde? |
| 22:19.03 | eidolon | screenshots? use ksnapshot |
| 22:19.10 | eidolon | full motion video? no idea. |
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| 22:21.44 | GraveDigger | eidolon: full motion video of course |
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| 22:27.15 | Shirakawasuna | I don't seem to be able to add new entries using the KDE Menu Editor |
| 22:27.29 | Shirakawasuna | I can edit the icons in entries already there, but creating new ones is not possible.... |
| 22:27.43 | Shirakawasuna | *when I save and restart kde menu editor, they're gone |
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| 22:32.29 | SimAtWork | Shirakawasuna: hrm |
| 22:32.38 | SimAtWork | Shirakawasuna: that's kinda weird |
| 22:32.43 | SimAtWork | Shirakawasuna: what version of kde are you on? |
| 22:32.57 | Shirakawasuna | I migrated from gnome, so who knows if my USE flags are in order or if gnome affected KDE's settings |
| 22:33.00 | Shirakawasuna | 3.4.3 stable |
| 22:34.34 | neighborlee | suse icons in kde desktop dont remember their positions..I had them in lower right corner of screen all nicely laid out..on every reboot they are crammed together in upper left corner of screen,,im asking in #suse as well but thought i'd run it past you too just in case... |
| 22:34.42 | Shirakawasuna | to switch over, I removed -kde and -qt from my USE flags, then emerged KDE |
| 22:34.59 | Shirakawasuna | then I did emerge -C gnome, added kde and qt flags, did emerge -DuaNv world |
| 22:35.09 | Shirakawasuna | *and removed the gnome USE flag |
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| 22:37.10 | aseigo | Shirakawasuna: interesting ... can you try cleaning out your ~/.config/menus and ~/.local/share/applications dirs? (note: you may lose previous customizations) |
| 22:37.55 | Shirakawasuna | aseigo: and then "refresh desktop" or should I log out? |
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| 22:38.14 | aseigo | Shirakawasuna: from a konsole run: kbuildsycoca --noincremental |
| 22:38.44 | aseigo | SYstem COnfiguration CAche |
| 22:39.02 | Shirakawasuna | ooh, much better :) |
| 22:39.05 | aseigo | it's an in (shared-)memory database of .desktop files for the menu, protocols, services, etc |
| 22:39.22 | Shirakawasuna | yep |
| 22:39.39 | nael | and it has the particularity of printing a lot of obscure message to stdout |
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| 22:39.48 | Shirakawasuna | I'll bet it was gnome conflicting with kde - I forgot to mention that it was using gnome icons and layout |
| 22:39.56 | Shirakawasuna | because now everything's MUCH better - thanks aseigo |
| 22:40.03 | aseigo | yeah, i've seen this a few times now |
| 22:40.21 | aseigo | not sure what happens, but GNOME does something in ./config/menus that generally fucks things up\ |
| 22:40.29 | Shirakawasuna | I'll try to remember it - I'll probably turn into a KDE zealot fairly soon :) |
| 22:40.35 | aseigo | not sure if it's our bug or their's or just a conflicting implementation |
| 22:41.10 | Shirakawasuna | well, now it's much happier |
| 22:41.46 | aseigo | huzzah for that |
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| 22:44.14 | Guilt_ | Anyone use a gateway 3522GZ? I need help configuring my monitor to display the 1280x768. |
| 22:45.23 | SimAtWork | 1280x768? |
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| 22:45.25 | SimAtWork | that doesn't sound right |
| 22:45.34 | SimAtWork | areyou sure you don't mean 1280x1024 ? |
| 22:45.48 | Death_Wish | im using KAudioCreator to rip some music where are the files transfer to that are ripped? |
| 22:45.49 | Shirakawasuna | widescreen laptop |
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| 22:45.56 | Shirakawasuna | or just widescreen |
| 22:46.05 | SimAtWork | oh right |
| 22:46.09 | yugi-oh | ???? |
| 22:46.26 | Shirakawasuna | Guilt_: it depends on your card, your bios, etc. |
| 22:46.45 | Shirakawasuna | Guilt_: try adding the modes + modelines to /etc/X11/xorg.conf |
| 22:47.07 | Shirakawasuna | Guilt_: at least, that's how to do it in gentoo....if you're using Suse or something who knows what you'd do w/ yast :) |
| 22:47.18 | Guilt_ | ive tried using the configurator, but wasnt exactly sure what im putting the modes on .... monitor, or the card? |
| 22:47.22 | yugi-oh | kkkkkk_o_q |
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| 22:48.07 | Shirakawasuna | Guilt_: monitor |
| 22:48.34 | Shirakawasuna | Guilt_: but you may want to add modelines as well |
| 22:49.29 | Shirakawasuna | wait |
| 22:49.54 | Virtual | anybody here using KDE with openbox instead of kwin ? |
| 22:49.57 | Shirakawasuna | modelines go in monitor, modes go in "screen" |
| 22:50.15 | Guilt_ | ok thanks |
| 22:50.27 | Shirakawasuna | Guilt_: to generate modelines - gtf 1280 768 60 |
| 22:53.14 | Guilt_ | how do i do the modes? |
| 22:54.04 | Shirakawasuna | Guilt_: there should be some in section screen already |
| 22:54.21 | Shirakawasuna | Guilt_: I just replaced mine with Modes "1280x800" yours would of course be 1280x768 |
| 22:54.23 | Guilt_ | i got everything in the subsecftion "Displays" set to 1280x768 |
| 22:54.37 | Shirakawasuna | ok |
| 22:54.54 | Shirakawasuna | if you've added the modeline, save xorg.conf and restart X |
| 22:56.33 | Guilt_ | ok brb |
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| 22:57.30 | Guilt_ | nope |
| 22:57.37 | Guilt_ | 1024x768 still :P |
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| 22:58.53 | sizaint | any one tell me how i get sound to work...? |
| 22:59.20 | sizaint | sound system in control center says: "Unable to start the sound server to retrieve possible sound I/O methods. |
| 22:59.21 | sizaint | Only automatic detection will be available." |
| 22:59.24 | Blissex | sizaint: ask proper questions. |
| 22:59.40 | Blissex | sizaint: with more details. |
| 23:00.08 | sizaint | well, i dunno really what to ask. |
| 23:00.10 | sizaint | i just installed gentoo, sound dont work. |
| 23:00.11 | PhilRod | ~artstr |
| 23:00.15 | apt | You can find some tips on diagnosing sound-related problems at http://docs.kde.org/development/en/kdebase/faq/sound.html |
| 23:00.41 | Blissex | sizaint: our telephatic advisers are busy on other lines, they will call you back when they are ready :-). |
| 23:00.42 | PhilRod | sizaint: try what's suggested in those tips and report back what happens |
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| 23:00.53 | Guilt_ | my sound doesnt work either ... i had to use usbhead phones |
| 23:01.06 | Guilt_ | no sound comes out of speakers if i use my ICH4 card |
| 23:01.24 | Blissex | sizaint: however apart from the tips suggested by <PhilRod> Gentoo has amazingly good ALSA and sound documentation, and http://tinyurl.com/4ogk2 has more details than you ever dreamed about. |
| 23:02.07 | sizaint | herm... artsd is not in my path. |
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| 23:04.11 | Blissex | sizaint: is it installed at all? |
| 23:04.28 | Blissex | sizaint: check also if it is running regardless, with 'ps axu | grep artsd' |
| 23:04.39 | sizaint | hmm nope its not.. weird why is that not part of kde emerge :S |
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| 23:05.22 | sizaint | trevor@localhost ~ $ ps axu | grep artsd |
| 23:05.22 | sizaint | trevor 14884 0.0 0.0 2608 512 pts/2 R+ 16:05 0:00 grep artsd |
| 23:05.43 | ezu5t | does anyone use korganizer with more than one calendar source? how do you know which one a new event is inserted into? |
| 23:05.58 | ezu5t | how do you CHOOSE which calender it gets inserted into |
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| 23:06.20 | PhilRod | ezu5t: when you add one, it asks |
| 23:06.34 | PhilRod | when you add an event, it asks which calendar, I mean |
| 23:07.04 | ezu5t | not for me it doesn't, PhilRod |
| 23:07.40 | ezu5t | using kde 3.5.1 |
| 23:07.54 | Blissex | ezu5t: then probably Kalendar thinks it has just one source it can add to... |
| 23:08.22 | ezu5t | i created a couyple of new resources, added them, and can't find them anymore |
| 23:08.28 | ezu5t | i mean new sources |
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| 23:08.38 | ezu5t | it never asks me |
| 23:08.47 | ezu5t | maybe the soruces I create are not valid or something |
| 23:09.08 | neighborlee | suse icons in kde desktop dont remember their positions..I had them in lower right corner of screen all nicely laid out..on every reboot they are crammed together in upper left corner of screen,,? ;-) |
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| 23:12.46 | ezu5t | ah, I found out how to change it here http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=112327 |
| 23:13.06 | sizaint | hmm my moniter is same res and refresh rate on windows and kde but in kde its to the right like half an inch :( |
| 23:13.34 | ezu5t | but it is already set for me |
| 23:13.44 | Blissex | sizaint: most multisync monitors will remember both settings. |
| 23:13.55 | SimAtWork | sizaint: that means your refresh rates don't match |
| 23:14.13 | Blissex | sizaint: or you can change the X11/KDE modeline after using something like 'xvidtune' to find out which one. |
| 23:14.13 | sizaint | SimAtWork, they are both 60 Hz |
| 23:14.17 | SimAtWork | sizaint: hard fix = go fiddle with xorg.conf , easy fix = play with the buttons on your monitor. |
| 23:14.31 | SimAtWork | sizaint: 60hz is the vert refresh.. there is also horizontal. |
| 23:14.39 | sizaint | SimAtWork, ya i can with my moniter buttons but.. then when i duel boot to windows it will be off ;) |
| 23:14.45 | SimAtWork | sizaint: and there is some variance allowed. |
| 23:15.09 | sizaint | hmm |
| 23:15.34 | SimAtWork | sizaint: i fainlty remember something called xtune or something that lets you modify it easilly |
| 23:15.55 | SimAtWork | but i've been lcd so long i haven't had to worry about such things so i don't remember exactly what it's called any more |
| 23:16.18 | sizaint | SimAtWork, xvidtune? it said it can breake my moniter if i dunno what im doing :S lol |
| 23:16.29 | SimAtWork | sizaint: it can |
| 23:16.36 | SimAtWork | sizaint: but that is rather highly unlikely too |
| 23:16.47 | sizaint | well i dunno wtf im doing so .. :p |
| 23:17.09 | SimAtWork | sizaint: how old is your monitor? |
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| 23:17.22 | sizaint | SimAtWork, hmm.. prolly 8 years old or so |
| 23:17.25 | SimAtWork | oh |
| 23:17.26 | SimAtWork | hrm |
| 23:17.27 | SimAtWork | ok |
| 23:17.33 | SimAtWork | it might be blowupable then :) |
| 23:17.53 | SimAtWork | newer ones (anything since 1998 for sure) will just turn off rather than do bad things. |
| 23:17.53 | sizaint | :X |
| 23:18.06 | SimAtWork | google for the settings based on your monitor model # then |
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| 23:20.09 | ezu5t | hey, for "bugs.kde.org", my platform is not listed as one of the possible platforms. |
| 23:20.12 | ezu5t | i use debian unstable. |
| 23:20.16 | ezu5t | it only has stable and testing there |
| 23:20.29 | ezu5t | could someone add unstable please? |
| 23:20.32 | pinotree | ezu5t: iirc there's "testing/unstable" |
| 23:21.01 | sizaint | this is my monitor: http://www.kdscanada.ca/oldmodel/xf9e.htm |
| 23:21.01 | ezu5t | well, when I am looking at an individual bug, and it has "Platform:" |
| 23:21.06 | ezu5t | it doesn't say testing/unstable there. |
| 23:21.09 | ezu5t | maybe it does in the wizard though |
| 23:21.20 | ezu5t | but why merge them into one platform? |
| 23:21.23 | ezu5t | they're not the same |
| 23:23.16 | sizaint | in my manual, it says 1280x1024 VESA horiz freq = 79.98 vert = 75.03 |
| 23:24.12 | Blissex | sizaint: that looks good. |
| 23:24.42 | sizaint | so, i set that with xvidtune? |
| 23:25.02 | Blissex | sizaint: yes, after all all you need is to shift things left-right, which is easy and should be safe. |
| 23:25.31 | sizaint | yeah but then windows will be messed up |
| 23:26.29 | sizaint | oh well |
| 23:26.29 | sizaint | :S |
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| 23:28.17 | Blissex | sizaint: no, that will just reprogram X to align the screen differently. |
| 23:28.41 | sizaint | what will |
| 23:28.51 | sizaint | xvidtune? |
| 23:28.57 | Blissex | sizaint: the size of the viewable area and its position on the monitor is determined by the mode line. 'xvidtune' just reprograms the mode line on the fly. |
| 23:29.16 | Blissex | sizaint: it is the opposite to changing the monitor settings. |
| 23:29.31 | sizaint | i thought u said just change the monitor settings instead? |
| 23:29.34 | sizaint | im confused ;s |
| 23:30.14 | Blissex | sizaint: you can do one or the other. |
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| 23:30.40 | sizaint | well i just did it on my monitor, cos i dunno how to use xvidtune |
| 23:30.40 | neighborlee | suse icons in kde desktop dont remember their positions..I had them in lower right corner of screen all nicely laid out..on every reboot they are crammed together in upper left corner of screen,,,this is important problem so I hope someone has sollution ?? ;-)) |
| 23:30.47 | _john_ | hi all! |
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| 23:31.06 | Blissex | sizaint: if your monitor can remember multiple settings, it will remember one setting for MS Windows and one for GNU/Linux/X. If it cannot, 'xvidtune' can change the X settings instead untile they are the same as under MS Windows. |
| 23:31.08 | neighborlee | hi john |
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| 23:31.47 | sizaint | it can only remember one, i have done it before, but i dunno how to use xvidtune so i guess ill just have to change the monitor every time i switch os. |
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| 23:33.05 | _john_ | guys, who is currently using amarok 1.4? |
| 23:33.23 | neighborlee | I am not atm |
| 23:33.40 | _john_ | i have a small issue |
| 23:33.54 | ezu5t | i was for a while but I had to reinstall KDE and I haven't gotten it running again yet |
| 23:34.09 | _john_ | after update it doesn't create a collection |
| 23:34.25 | ezu5t | is your database configured? |
| 23:34.38 | _john_ | i think it is |
| 23:34.51 | ezu5t | i had some database configuration problems that caused it to do nothing on a "scan collection" |
| 23:35.01 | ezu5t | iirc |
| 23:35.19 | ezu5t | i wish it gave a better error message |
| 23:35.23 | ezu5t | when there was something wrong with the database config |
| 23:35.37 | ezu5t | but if you look at the debug output you can see |
| 23:36.02 | _john_ | well i runned mysqld and configured it at amarok options |
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| 23:36.52 | _john_ | after scan it shows nothing |
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| 23:37.22 | _john_ | after each restart it scans a collection one more time |
| 23:37.40 | _john_ | stderr is clean |
| 23:37.48 | _john_ | if dunno what to do |
| 23:37.57 | ezu5t | is anythign in the database? |
| 23:38.19 | _john_ | moment |
| 23:39.13 | _john_ | well |
| 23:39.18 | morphir | iam having a problem excelling my resolution up to 1280*1024 |
| 23:39.40 | _john_ | actually mysqldump -A shows nothing |
| 23:39.49 | ezu5t | yeha, that was the problem I had |
| 23:39.51 | morphir | I've added 1280*1024 to my xorg.conf |
| 23:40.02 | _john_ | i mean it shows smth but not the tracks |
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| 23:41.02 | sizaint | $ artsd start |
| 23:41.02 | sizaint | unix_connect: can't connect to server (unix:/tmp/mcop-trevor/localhost_localdomain-26c3-441602d9) |
| 23:41.02 | sizaint | Error while initializing the sound driver: |
| 23:41.02 | sizaint | device /dev/dsp can't be opened (No such file or directory) |
| 23:41.06 | sizaint | :x |
| 23:41.09 | ezu5t | _john_ - there is an #amarok channel too |
| 23:41.10 | _john_ | i thought after configuring mysql conection in amarok it should create a database |
| 23:41.18 | _john_ | ezu5t: oh thx! |
| 23:41.25 | _john_ | i didnt know |
| 23:41.33 | ezu5t | but this is a db config problem |
| 23:41.39 | ezu5t | not directly related to amarok |
| 23:41.42 | ezu5t | oh wait |
| 23:41.45 | ezu5t | nevermind |
| 23:41.50 | ezu5t | you say you see some things in it? |
| 23:42.02 | ezu5t | in that case I don't know |
| 23:42.12 | _john_ | what? |
| 23:42.22 | ezu5t | well, it might not be a db config problem if you see SOME data in it |
| 23:43.05 | _john_ | could i paste some text here? |
| 23:43.49 | _john_ | well it is possible to use SQLite db not only msql afaik |
| 23:44.04 | _john_ | but it doesnt work too |
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