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00:51.51 | visik7 | aib: there is a tool in background settings |
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00:52.06 | luksan | aib: dcop kdesktop KBackgroundIface setWallpaper *filename* 0 |
00:52.38 | visik7 | that allow you to refresh desktop with images or programs |
00:52.50 | shiznix | right click on desktop > Configure Desktop > on Background click Advanced Options > Background Program |
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00:53.34 | aib | wow thanks |
00:54.47 | aib | ohhh, i can choose my script as the program! neat |
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01:04.24 | aib | nothing seems to happen when I run the dcop command. I expanded it by doing just `dcop' and then `dcop kdesktop', and it prompts me for the next entry each time, but the background is never changed |
01:06.21 | caffei | aib, did you provide the full path to the wallpaper? |
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01:08.00 | aib | definitely. i set the background image to Alien Night, and then ran the dcop command, and my background became blue and the "No picture" bullet is now selected |
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01:09.06 | aib | ahhh, got it :) |
01:09.14 | aib | the command from luksan has a 0 at the end, it wanted a 1 |
01:09.39 | luksan | aib: yeah, i was just guessing |
01:09.45 | aib | damn good guess |
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01:09.48 | luksan | aib: i looked it up with kdcop |
01:10.28 | aib | this is so cool :) i can see outside although I work in a basement. thanks guys |
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02:30.23 | oggb4mp3 | whoah |
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02:30.36 | xororand | btw |
02:30.36 | xororand | a new futurama episode is in the making :) |
02:30.42 | TeaSea | xororand: 26 new episodes :) |
02:30.42 | xororand | 26 new to be correct |
02:30.42 | xororand | yes :) |
02:30.42 | xororand | this is soooooo great |
02:30.42 | xororand | i watched futurama from episode 1 on, back then i only had 64kbit/s and all i got were crappy 30mb realmedia versions |
02:30.43 | TeaSea | Damn straight. |
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02:52.58 | bobyfixer | <PROTECTED> |
02:53.02 | bobyfixer | is it out ? |
02:53.08 | bobyfixer | or is it a virus ? |
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03:02.34 | [_]illogic-al | "Please note that this is pre-release software" |
03:03.16 | bobyfixer | so its not the reall thing ? |
03:03.52 | bobyfixer | im never reading odnews ever again :P |
03:04.00 | bobyfixer | osnews i mean |
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03:54.50 | dagnachew | hello all |
03:54.53 | dagnachew | how are you all |
03:55.01 | gattaca | flooded |
03:55.25 | dagnachew | I was wondering how this kind of icons http://www.iconbuffet.com/categories/icons were made |
03:57.10 | gattaca | i'd use illustrator . . . |
03:57.40 | gattaca | or Inkscape for you X11 users :P |
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04:00.08 | dagnachew | why do they cost 250 $ ? |
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04:08.12 | dagnachew | how to download Ricebowl icons ? |
04:08.23 | dagnachew | please I need this icons set |
04:10.42 | mobtek | try kde-look.org |
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04:22.11 | Ze_M | from where akode can be downloaded? |
04:26.22 | firephoto | Ze_M: if your distro doesn't have it there's a src link here. http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=30375 |
04:26.50 | Ze_M | http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/kdesupport/akode |
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05:01.03 | DaSkreech | ok |
05:01.08 | DaSkreech | Quiet |
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05:06.12 | gattaca | blit |
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05:19.34 | ScytheBlade1 | Does KDE have a feature similar to window's "cascade windows {horizontally,vertically}"? |
05:19.42 | ScytheBlade1 | I'd be immensely useful, but I can't find it |
05:21.51 | GerbilSoft | ScytheBlade1: middle-click the desktop |
05:22.16 | ScytheBlade1 | GerbilSoft, close, but I want it to resize them also to fit the maximum screen space |
05:22.25 | GerbilSoft | tiling - don't think it has that yet |
05:22.52 | ScytheBlade1 | agitating |
05:22.54 | ScytheBlade1 | but thanks |
05:23.08 | flaccid_ | is pyqt available in yum repos? |
05:26.15 | DaSkreech | ScytheBlade1: There is a thingy |
05:26.21 | ScytheBlade1 | DaSkreech, ? |
05:26.23 | DaSkreech | kompose? |
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05:26.32 | DaSkreech | ScytheBlade1: Which distro? |
05:26.44 | ScytheBlade1 | gentoo |
05:27.02 | DaSkreech | try emerge kompose |
05:27.16 | DaSkreech | http://kompose.berlios.de/ |
05:27.58 | ScytheBlade1 | Eh |
05:28.04 | ScytheBlade1 | Overkill, and not what I'm looking for |
05:28.13 | ScytheBlade1 | I just want it to resize the windows to fit the screen space |
05:28.20 | DaSkreech | ok |
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05:30.28 | grepper | ScytheBlade1: you can maximize hozizontally or vertically |
05:30.35 | ScytheBlade1 | How? |
05:31.08 | grepper | r-click the title-bar and configure window behavior |
05:31.24 | grepper | actions for the maximize button |
05:31.42 | ScytheBlade1 | Oh, hey, not bad |
05:31.55 | DaSkreech | You can right click and middle click the maximize button but thats a pain |
05:32.45 | ScytheBlade1 | That's the closest I've come so far |
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05:39.34 | DaSkreech | Ok quick question on compiz |
05:40.10 | DaSkreech | is it intended to be developed or will it be cannibalized and fatten kwin? |
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05:44.12 | Sotek | is there a way to make KDE confirm before closing a (specific) application when I request it with alt+f4? ... that is. I open a bunch of small windows from a program, I the use focus-follows-mouse and alt+f4 to kill all but a very limited few of them. But sometimes I accidentally hit alt+f4 when the focus is on a completely different application while doing this, and I close it; I'd like to make it so that it asked for confirmation first. |
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05:44.12 | Sotek | (Or just completely ignored it, either way.) |
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05:47.31 | grepper | you can disable the keybinding |
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05:48.18 | Sotek | Well. I want alt+f4 to work everywhere *else*. I like it. I'm used to it. I just don't want this one program to close without making sure I meant it. |
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05:50.18 | Kobaz | anyone know how to make konqueror not open files on single click |
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05:50.56 | grepper | its in peripherals |
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05:51.19 | grepper | its in peripherals->mouse, in kcontrol |
05:51.31 | parph | Hello. |
05:51.36 | Kobaz | k |
05:52.02 | Kobaz | excellent, thanks |
05:52.07 | parph | Is there a way to specify a port in kopete for it to listen to? I suspect my file transfers are so slow because kopete is not looking at the right port range in my router/firewall |
05:53.17 | parph | ? |
05:54.31 | Sotek | hmm. oh well. |
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05:56.06 | firephoto | parph: for msn? |
05:56.19 | parph | msn, yahoo, anything |
05:56.42 | firephoto | well each protocol has it's own ports they use. this is from the msn side of things |
05:56.50 | firephoto | or yahoo. or whatever |
05:57.02 | parph | in game tho you can specify where it listens |
05:57.25 | parph | gaim |
05:57.59 | firephoto | right but that would only work between clients that you could set the port. msn uses 8168 i think, not sure about yahoo. |
05:58.16 | parph | hmm, ok |
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06:00.09 | firephoto | i show 6891-6901 and 1863 and 5190 for msn on my firewall here. |
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06:00.24 | parph | thats allot of open ports |
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06:01.32 | firephoto | 6891-6901 TCP 1863 UDP 5190 TCP |
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06:21.40 | Zenethian | I don't suppose anyone has ever built KDE 3.5 on Cygwin eh? |
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06:56.29 | flaccid_ | i need libqassistantclient.so.1 for PyQt |
06:56.35 | flaccid_ | not sure what rpm its meant to be in |
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06:59.01 | Fri13 | flaccid_: you should select from yast "what provides" box and then search that. |
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07:11.54 | automat | does kde use the hal? |
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07:13.17 | automat | or is the hal being written entirely by novell and some of the gnome devs? |
07:13.18 | caffei | automat, yes |
07:13.25 | caffei | automat, kde uses hal, that is |
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07:15.45 | automat | i think i disabled the reaction to my camera. i wonder what program i should use. |
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07:19.37 | caffei | automat, kcmshell media |
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07:21.17 | somekool | i have this problem to love using software that does not work.... why did I just stick with what everyone works with. |
07:21.25 | somekool | didn't i |
07:23.15 | Belegdol | hi |
07:23.32 | Belegdol | what does kde 3.5.1 use for compositing? |
07:23.37 | Belegdol | render? |
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07:26.04 | automat | hm. kcmshell doesn't see my camera but digikam does |
07:26.27 | automat | i suppose if i wanted to see it in media i should have a fstab entry for it... |
07:28.16 | automat | but i cant find the /dev node for it. weird. |
07:28.35 | caffei | automat, or add it to 'kcmshell kamera', perhaps. (btw, kcmshell is just a way to run single kcontrol modules) |
07:29.11 | automat | a big case statement? |
07:29.31 | caffei | o_O |
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07:30.12 | automat | -< |
07:32.11 | automat | oh. i didn't install kamera. |
07:35.33 | caffei | that might help :D |
07:37.03 | automat | what's the difference then between running `kcmshell kamera` or just `kamera`? |
07:37.57 | caffei | kcmshell kamera is equivalent to going to Settings/Kcontrol -> Peripherals -> Digital Camera |
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07:39.49 | automat | and just `kamera`? |
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07:40.22 | caffei | that doesn't do anything here o_O |
07:40.24 | automat | nm. |
07:40.41 | caffei | off to game |
07:41.01 | automat | finishing merge. |
07:41.43 | automat | o. there's two. i didn't see that in the -av. oops |
07:49.34 | automat | would it take a reboot to get kcmshell to see kamera? |
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07:57.13 | kameron | is there anyway to get k3b to handle mdf/mds files, to burn from image? |
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08:10.07 | ronino | hi |
08:10.56 | ronino | how can i make KMail print e-mails without wrapping the text? I.e. decrease the font size or something. Wrapped text is hardly readable, cause there is too much space, esp. when having cited text |
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08:14.38 | dli__ | a kopete question, kopete gives me a place to select fonts for chat text, but if my buddy uses a different encoding from me, this doesn't work |
08:19.35 | PhilRod | ronino: IIRC, kmail displays the mail "as sent", so if it's wrapped, it's because the sender wrapped the text |
08:21.40 | ronino | PhilRod: hmm, i don't think so, for me, this is the case: When reading the mail in KMail, it is displayed as wanted, there is a linebreak where intended by the sender or wrapped at 80 characters or something, but in printing, the font-size is too big, such that the lines wrap at say 70 characters and thus on the next line, you find 2 single words |
08:24.09 | ronino | PhilRod: ah, i found a way to set the font size for printing |
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08:29.18 | PhilRod | ronino: oh, *printing*. Sorry, missed that in your original question |
08:30.27 | ronino | PhilRod: no problem ;-) |
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08:31.37 | [nige] | hello |
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08:37.54 | PhilRod | hi [nige] |
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08:50.24 | markey | moin |
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09:11.37 | xanax` | hello |
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09:12.04 | shinobi2 | where was the place i can input hotkeys for kde? i am on kde 3.4 |
09:12.41 | benJIman | shinobi2: kcontrol -> regional & accessability -> input actions / khotkeys |
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09:20.17 | flaccid_ | does libqassistantclient.so.1 not come with later versions of qt like qt-3.3.5-11.4.fc3.kde |
09:21.06 | flaccid_ | trying to install the deps for liquid weather which needs PyQt |
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09:24.36 | pinotree | hello |
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09:28.19 | PhilRod | heya pinotree |
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09:31.32 | linux_galore | hmm |
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09:51.21 | ^rob^ | hello |
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09:53.49 | ^rob^ | i wonder if they changed khtml.h to some other name |
09:54.06 | ^rob^ | i can't find khtml.h - even if i've installed kde-dev libs |
09:54.42 | pinotree | an header can't be renamed during a major release |
09:54.52 | pinotree | are you sure you used khtml.h? |
09:55.22 | ^rob^ | yes |
09:55.30 | pinotree | i have khtml_path.h and khtmlview.h |
09:55.33 | ^rob^ | #include <khtmlh> |
09:55.40 | ^rob^ | me too |
09:56.05 | ^rob^ | #include <khtml.h> |
09:56.05 | ^rob^ | #include <kapp.h> |
09:56.23 | ^rob^ | those are the only lines included in that example file from khtml.h |
09:56.26 | ^rob^ | sorry |
09:56.31 | ^rob^ | khtml web page |
09:56.34 | pinotree | a) kapp.h is deprecated -> use kapplication.h |
09:56.41 | pinotree | it's outdated, then |
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09:56.51 | pinotree | use khtml_part.h and khtmlview.h |
09:57.50 | pinotree | --> (phone) |
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10:04.09 | visik7 | when I right click on a folder in konqueror and select share it show a button "Configure File Sharing..." but file share are configured to allow any user to share folders |
10:04.17 | visik7 | why it doesn't show a dialog to share ? |
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10:09.45 | raddy | Hello Everybody |
10:09.48 | raddy | Howdy |
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10:10.49 | raddy | why does when Composite enabled, Konqueror lost highlight after moving it? |
10:11.25 | apokryphos | raddy: it shouldn't, really (doesn't happen here), but know that composite is known to be quite buggy. |
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10:12.13 | raddy | apokryphos : i don't use xcompmgr, i use kompmgr |
10:12.27 | apokryphos | raddy: sure |
10:12.38 | apokryphos | (which uses xcompmgr, I'm pretty sure) |
10:13.21 | raddy | apokryphos : both Kopete and and Konqueror lost highlight after moving it |
10:13.33 | apokryphos | raddy: composite is very buggy |
10:13.45 | raddy | apokryphos : what version of KDE are you using? |
10:14.16 | apokryphos | raddy: 3.5.1 |
10:14.41 | ^rob^ | damn - i can't make a simple khtml browser - can someone pls help? |
10:14.46 | raddy | apokryphos : ohhhhhh, i am using only KDE 3.4.2 |
10:15.06 | apokryphos | raddy: what distro are you on? |
10:15.14 | raddy | apokryphos : are you using Mandriva orv Kubuntu? |
10:15.46 | apokryphos | raddy: at the moment, neither. But both of those distributions have 3.5, so you can upgrade. |
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10:16.12 | raddy | apokryphos : mine SuSE 10, yeah, i know i can update to 3.5.1. but i don't want to update it, |
10:16.23 | apokryphos | raddy: why? |
10:16.31 | raddy | apokryphos : what is yours? |
10:16.41 | apokryphos | SuSE, at the moment. |
10:17.11 | raddy | apokryphos : it must come with Ditstribution. then only it would be polished and integrated |
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10:17.18 | raddy | apokryphos : what version? |
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10:17.39 | apokryphos | raddy: suse have packaged 3.5.1, it has all the polish of the previous kde. I recommend upgrading. |
10:17.43 | apokryphos | raddy: 10.0 |
10:18.07 | raddy | apokryphos : you too using 10.0? |
10:18.16 | apokryphos | http://susewiki.apanela.com/tutorials:updatekde |
10:18.20 | apokryphos | check that out |
10:18.20 | apokryphos | yes |
10:18.25 | raddy | apokryphos : very similarity |
10:18.35 | raddy | apokryphos : are you updated xorg? |
10:18.37 | apokryphos | raddy: it's a popular distribution, yes :) |
10:18.51 | apokryphos | raddy: I'm only using 6.8, waiting for 10.1 RC to try o ut .9 |
10:19.12 | raddy | apokryphos : what video card you have? |
10:19.33 | apokryphos | raddy: nvidia Fx5200 |
10:20.08 | raddy | apokryphos : ohhhhhh, thats why you are able to use Composite even in 6.8 |
10:20.19 | apokryphos | raddy: you have an ATI? |
10:20.45 | raddy | apokryphos : no, only Integrated Intel GMA 950 |
10:21.02 | apokryphos | that explains the problem :) |
10:21.50 | raddy | apokryphos : but before updating xorg, i was not happy with the performance of composite, but after updating i am very happy |
10:22.14 | raddy | apokryphos : it is much more usable than XGL |
10:22.22 | apokryphos | raddy: in what sense? |
10:22.35 | apokryphos | raddy: how did you update your xorg? Compile? |
10:23.07 | apokryphos | updating your KDE might well help, who knows. |
10:23.13 | raddy | apokryphos : total performance, and responsiveness, importantly scrolling in XGL is very slow |
10:23.29 | apokryphos | raddy: that's down to your card, yes. |
10:23.45 | apokryphos | on mine (which is a pretty cheap card) it works pretty perfectly |
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10:26.51 | raddy | apokryphos : i used xorg 6.9 supplimentary packages, |
10:27.21 | apokryphos | raddy: interesting. Which source is that from? |
10:27.33 | raddy | apokryphos : composite seems not seperate thing, it is integrated in xorg |
10:27.45 | apokryphos | indeed |
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10:28.25 | td | anyone any idea how to fix the print preview in Kate 2.4.1 on KDE 3.4.2? :) |
10:28.57 | raddy | apokryphos : http://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/i386/supplementary/X/Xorg/Xorg-X11R6.9/i386/suse100/ |
10:29.07 | apokryphos | raddy: thanks |
10:29.40 | raddy | apokryphos : you have to upgrade ImageMagic, and Sax2 too |
10:29.54 | apokryphos | raddy: how did the upgrade go for you? Smooth? |
10:30.46 | raddy | apokryphos : very smooth |
10:30.46 | apokryphos | raddy: thanks, I'll try them out. |
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10:31.26 | raddy | apokryphos : Install Mesa too. Xorg-libs-mesa now replaced by that package |
10:31.35 | apokryphos | thanks |
10:31.47 | raddy | libdrm too |
10:32.26 | apokryphos | raddy: d'oh. Seems like those were only built for i386 |
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10:32.45 | raddy | do everything in yast, if you do it in cli, you may receive conflicts |
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10:33.14 | apokryphos | raddy: can't do it at all, unfortunately. Guess I'll just wait till 10.1 RC |
10:33.23 | raddy | apokryphos : okk |
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10:34.15 | raddy | apokryphos : by-the-way you can try XGL now itself |
10:34.33 | apokryphos | raddy: been trying it out; quite buggy altogether on here. |
10:34.45 | raddy | apokryphos : ohhhh |
10:34.53 | apokryphos | should be fine in suse 10.1 with xorg 6.9 |
10:35.44 | raddy | apokryphos : shall i give you suggestion? |
10:36.07 | apokryphos | shoot |
10:36.16 | raddy | apokryphos : i hope you know about Opensuse factory |
10:36.29 | apokryphos | raddy: sure, won't really use that now though |
10:37.34 | raddy | apokryphos : using that update your Mesa package to 6.4.2 |
10:38.19 | raddy | apokryphos : i heard that using latest version of xgl compiz and Mesa 6.4.2 fixes all XGL bugs |
10:39.02 | benJIman | fixing all bugs sounds rather unlikely :p |
10:40.19 | raddy | benJIman : most of |
10:40.43 | raddy | benJIman : slowness and sluggishnes |
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10:54.50 | linux_galore | and for the millionth time "XGL" isnt finished yet |
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10:59.16 | Enverex | Any idea why KCron would say it can't update crontab? |
11:01.29 | Enverex | "error updating crontab" rather |
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11:10.18 | PhilRod | Enverex: do you have write permissions? |
11:10.59 | Enverex | I'm in the cron goup, heh |
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11:15.00 | shinobi2 | whever and i add hot keys in kde 3.4? i.e. to maximize window |
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11:18.05 | PhilRod | shinobi2: control center > regional & a11y -> keyboard shortcuts |
11:20.22 | shinobi2 | PhilRod, thx |
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11:24.22 | shinobi2 | anyone know what's the defaul hot keys to maximize window in gnome? i want to config kde that way too |
11:25.16 | shinobi2 | how can i add "xterm" icon on kpanel? or a command box in kpanel? |
11:25.48 | shinobi2 | the last kde version i used was there, but i don't see it in this newer version. |
11:25.50 | PhilRod | right click on panel -> add to panel -> application |
11:26.03 | PhilRod | or for a mini command line, add to panel -> applet |
11:26.25 | PhilRod | and add the "run command" applet |
11:26.30 | shinobi2 | ah... found run command |
11:27.10 | shinobi2 | PhilRod, how do i costomize a command "xterm" in kpanel |
11:27.48 | PhilRod | do you have an entry for xterm in your K menu? (bear with me, the question is relevant) |
11:27.50 | shinobi2 | customize |
11:28.11 | shinobi2 | no, i don't have xterm on k menu |
11:28.39 | shinobi2 | i remember i can customize a run command and choose my own icon for it. |
11:28.55 | PhilRod | run kappfinder, and it should be able to add xterm to your k menu |
11:29.07 | PhilRod | yes, you can. Adding it to the K menu first is probably easier though |
11:29.22 | PhilRod | and demonstrates the usual way to add application icons to the panel |
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11:30.57 | ariel | hi, someboby is here? |
11:31.14 | shinobi2 | PhilRod, do you know where i can add "kdm" line during boot process so that it will automatically run kde upon start? this newer distro did not have gdm |
11:31.41 | ariel | yast |
11:31.45 | benJIman | shinobi2: what distro are you using? |
11:32.02 | shinobi2 | slackware 10.2 |
11:32.25 | shinobi2 | slackware 10.1 (using this one a while back) |
11:33.16 | PhilRod | shinobi2: best to ask in #yourdistro |
11:33.34 | shinobi2 | PhilRod, i did, everyone sleeping, will try tomorrow |
11:33.38 | ariel | execute yast in console and open the sys-config editing option |
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11:34.07 | benJIman | ariel: s/he's not using suse |
11:34.16 | ariel | there you can chnge the display manger from gdm to kdm |
11:34.54 | ariel | sorry, so i know nothing |
11:35.04 | PhilRod | shinobi2: in that case, there are probably some distro docs somewhere. GIYF, I guess |
11:35.58 | shinobi2 | GIYF==? |
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11:36.22 | sorush20_ | anyone here know of a good p2p icon? |
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11:37.48 | PhilRod | shinobi2: "google is your friend" |
11:38.34 | shinobi2 | PhilOut, yes it is |
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11:42.06 | j6t | i visited a site for the first time with konqueror, entered a password, and was asked "want to store password", and I said "No" |
11:42.33 | j6t | now i want to revert my decision, i.e. i do want to save the password in kwallet |
11:43.03 | j6t | i found nothing where i could revert my first decision. am i missing something? |
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11:44.13 | Enverex | Is there any way of getting the little KDE games and stuff to work and play sound without Alsa being installed and running? |
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12:07.04 | linux_galore | shinjii: depends how fast you wind the hand crank on the cpu |
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12:29.35 | visik7 | in the content submenu of a folder I can't see share |
12:29.40 | visik7 | how can I enable it ? |
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12:34.21 | Enverex | Is there any way of getting the little KDE games and stuff to work and play sound without Alsa being installed and running? |
12:34.32 | visik7 | solved |
12:34.46 | visik7 | permiss on /etc/security/fileshare.conf was misconfig |
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12:41.38 | derelm | i am using kde without arts - how can i get sound notifications to work? |
12:43.12 | derelm | in kcontrol -> system notifications i chose to use an external player, but it doesn't seem to get executed, but i dont find anything in any logfile? |
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12:46.59 | linux_galore | derelm: change the sound server timeout its too slow |
12:47.04 | linux_galore | in kcontrol |
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12:49.02 | derelm | linux_galore: i deactivated sound server, as i installed without arts |
12:50.03 | linux_galore | derelm: I dont think system notifications will work without artsd |
12:50.25 | derelm | linux_galore: but you can chose to use an external player... |
12:50.46 | linux_galore | derelm: yes thats the player, thats not artsd |
12:50.49 | benJIman | you can use suse's patches if want kde without arts |
12:50.49 | derelm | linux_galore: so if i set this to (a)play or whatever sound should work |
12:51.34 | linux_galore | derelm: you cant do that with a standard kde rig you need the suse patches |
12:51.58 | derelm | linux_galore: i am using gentoo, i think they provide the patches |
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12:52.38 | linux_galore | derelm: I think doesnt mean yes |
12:52.58 | derelm | linux_galore: right :) |
12:53.18 | linux_galore | anyway time for bed |
12:53.22 | linux_galore | my shifts over |
12:53.59 | linux_galore | one thing I will agree on, artsd must die, long live gstreamer |
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12:56.09 | Enverex | When setting "use an external player" just putting /usr/bin/aplay should work shouldn't it? |
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13:12.40 | [_]illogic-al | ow |
13:13.22 | Enverex | Anyone know why putting aplay as the external player in the KDE system settings wouldn't work? |
13:13.33 | Enverex | (aplay works fine from the console) |
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13:15.38 | illogic-al | Enverex: because KDe's system sounds are oggs |
13:15.45 | illogic-al | aplay aonly plays waves. |
13:15.52 | illogic-al | Enverex: use ogg123. |
13:15.54 | Enverex | using mplayer doesn't work either |
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13:16.45 | Enverex | Yup, no change, still silence |
13:16.59 | illogic-al | is arts still on? |
13:17.04 | Enverex | No |
13:17.13 | illogic-al | ps ax |
13:17.24 | illogic-al | ps ax| grep arts |
13:17.26 | Enverex | Arts isn't even installed and "Sound System" is turned off |
13:17.35 | illogic-al | paste the output from that command. |
13:17.50 | illogic-al | Enverex: how is arts not installed? |
13:17.51 | Enverex | I'm not a moron |
13:17.59 | Enverex | 18157 pts/3 S+ 0:00 grep arts |
13:18.04 | Enverex | Thats the only line |
13:18.15 | illogic-al | Enverex: how is arts not installed? |
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13:18.44 | Enverex | well aparently "emerge kde" on Gentoo with the -arts "useflag" doesn't install KDE |
13:18.49 | Enverex | erm |
13:18.50 | Enverex | arts |
13:18.52 | Enverex | -kde |
13:19.05 | illogic-al | KDE will not give you system sounds without arts |
13:19.19 | illogic-al | you don't have to use it but you do have to build KDE w/ it |
13:19.30 | illogic-al | that's why you're not getting any sound. |
13:19.42 | Enverex | ugh, thats annoying |
13:19.43 | PhilOut | illogic-al: but the external player thingy should work |
13:19.54 | illogic-al | PhilOut: nope. not for system sounds. |
13:20.00 | PhilOut | really? |
13:20.10 | Enverex | Also, if you have Arts installed, what is the point in using an external player? |
13:20.28 | illogic-al | PhilOut: i have tried it :-) |
13:20.45 | PhilOut | illogic-al: what does the option do then? |
13:21.07 | illogic-al | PhilOut: it allows you to play external audio without using arts. |
13:21.14 | Enverex | ... |
13:21.21 | Enverex | So... you don't need arts |
13:21.33 | illogic-al | er, it allows you to play audio in an external player, without using arts |
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13:21.49 | illogic-al | Enverex: yes, you do need arts. |
13:22.04 | Enverex | Why?! That makes no sense. Grrr. |
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13:22.10 | illogic-al | like I said KDE won't play sounds without arts being built |
13:22.22 | Enverex | I don't want to recompile everything to reenable arts then have to have that running too |
13:22.29 | illogic-al | then don't |
13:22.37 | illogic-al | and don't complain about it. |
13:23.10 | illogic-al | no one forced you to compile w/out arts, did they? |
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13:23.44 | Enverex | Actually it's default on Gentoo due to arts being a steaming pile of shit |
13:23.44 | PhilOut | illogic-al: what do you mean by "external audio"? |
13:23.46 | Arafangion | How easy is it to install koffice on windows and mac? |
13:23.58 | Arafangion | I'm thinking of scripting it for it's import filters, as a means of file conversion. |
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13:23.59 | illogic-al | PhilOut: that was wrong, i just meant audio |
13:24.20 | illogic-al | Arafangion: atm, i'd think not that easy at all. |
13:24.26 | mikearthur | Enverex: what you need to do is compile everything except kdelibs with -arts, and set +arts on kdelibs, and use sox as an external player |
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13:24.28 | illogic-al | Arafangion: check w/ the guys in koffice. |
13:24.34 | Arafangion | Thanks. |
13:24.37 | illogic-al | they'll know more than I. |
13:24.49 | Enverex | mikearthur: Does arts need to be running though? |
13:24.55 | mikearthur | Enverex: nope |
13:25.00 | Enverex | argh, how pointless |
13:25.14 | mikearthur | Enverex: you turn it off, but if you compile kdelibs with -arts, there is no sounds from any kde application :D |
13:25.27 | mikearthur | Enverex: even when its not needed |
13:25.28 | Enverex | ......?!?! WHY!? |
13:25.29 | illogic-al | if arts needed to be running then why use external player in the first plcae. that would be pointless. |
13:25.40 | mikearthur | it isn't needed |
13:25.48 | PhilOut | I'm really confused |
13:25.53 | Enverex | illogic-al: If arts isn't needed to play things then why does it need to be compiled in, thats pointless too |
13:26.03 | PhilOut | yes, that's what I don't understand |
13:26.11 | illogic-al | PhilOut: KDE won't build knotify w/out arts. knotify does the sounds notifications. |
13:26.11 | mikearthur | it just needs to be compiled in for kdelibs |
13:26.20 | PhilOut | illogic-al: aaaah! |
13:26.24 | mikearthur | seems like a CLEVER IDEA! |
13:26.27 | PhilOut | it all makes (some kind of) sense now |
13:26.30 | Enverex | mikearthur: kdelibs or kdebase? |
13:26.34 | mikearthur | libs |
13:27.13 | illogic-al | PhilOut: i think i tried to remove arts requirement once (cpp files) and failed miserably. |
13:27.21 | illogic-al | so there must be some code in there that it needs. |
13:27.45 | mikearthur | it'll be fixed for 4.0 no doubt |
13:27.53 | Enverex | hmm |
13:27.58 | PhilRod | arts won't be required in KDE 4 |
13:28.03 | PhilRod | ~arts-kde4 |
13:28.13 | apt | arts is unmaintained, for KDE 4 (and not before) there will probably be a backend independent architecture allowing you to choose what sound engine (or none) to use via an abstracted API, if you want to know more, you should read the 5 or 6 hundred post long thread on the kde-multimedia mailing list archives |
13:28.13 | Enverex | I really can't decide on which DE to use =/ |
13:28.14 | PhilRod | ~kde4-arts |
13:28.20 | PhilRod | aha, there it is |
13:28.23 | illogic-al | use the one which suits you best Enverex |
13:28.26 | PhilRod | although that's somewhat out-of-date |
13:28.35 | mikearthur | Enverex: what do you want to do with your DE/system? |
13:29.13 | Enverex | mikearthur: Same as you really |
13:29.29 | mikearthur | in that case, use KDE :D |
13:29.40 | illogic-al | hahah |
13:29.46 | Enverex | I like KDE but it seems so much... "heavier" than Gnome (although Gnome does seem to lack... anything anymore" |
13:29.53 | mikearthur | it's not any slower |
13:30.06 | Enverex | Startup is :P |
13:30.09 | benJIman | Enverex: kde is significantly faster than gnome |
13:30.11 | mikearthur | GNOME = users are stupid, lets remove everything confusing |
13:30.18 | illogic-al | Enverex: you are starting up more things... |
13:30.22 | mikearthur | KDE = lets just put a million checkboxes on a page! |
13:30.23 | Enverex | and Konqueror is slower, but Konq is also quite awsome |
13:30.27 | benJIman | Enverex: kdm -> working desktop in <2s for kde here, gnome takes several seconds |
13:30.42 | illogic-al | Enverex: konq is slower than what? certainly not firefox |
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13:30.52 | Thrain | hello |
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13:31.02 | Enverex | That one that starts with an N |
13:31.11 | Thrain | is out there a mixer (neither kmix nor kamix) |
13:31.11 | illogic-al | Thrain: hey Enverex |
13:31.12 | Thrain | ? |
13:31.23 | illogic-al | Thrain: woops :-) |
13:31.26 | Enverex | erm, Nautilus |
13:31.32 | Enverex | I mean as a filebrowser |
13:31.51 | illogic-al | Enverex: do you know what draws the gnome desktop ? It's nautius |
13:32.01 | Enverex | I know |
13:32.02 | illogic-al | that means it's running before you ever click on the icon |
13:32.21 | illogic-al | it _should_ start up quicker. |
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13:34.30 | Enverex | What's with the "Lost and Found" folder on my KDE menu? |
13:34.59 | mikearthur | thats stuff that hasn't had its .desktop file set in a way that works with KDE categories |
13:35.03 | mikearthur | you get it on GNOME sometimes too |
13:35.08 | illogic-al | That's where stuff gets stuck when KDE doesn't know where it belongs |
13:35.29 | illogic-al | like when you have two installtions of KDE and both are in your PATH |
13:35.37 | illogic-al | or when gnome apps get found |
13:36.00 | illogic-al | or when app devs don't put catergories in the .desktop files of their apps |
13:36.11 | Enverex | VMWare, Smb4k, GTK Styles and Fonts, Oregano, Gentoo, Encryption Key manager... |
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13:37.12 | mikearthur | Enverex: QEMU is the new VMWARE fyi :D |
13:37.20 | Enverex | Anyone know any good sites for Game icons? (mainly svg) |
13:37.29 | Enverex | But is QEMU better than VMWARE, hmm? |
13:37.41 | mikearthur | I dunno |
13:37.41 | Chryseus | qemu is much slower |
13:37.43 | mikearthur | QEMU is free |
13:37.46 | StevenR | qemu is free though |
13:37.54 | mikearthur | Chryseus: you use kqemu? |
13:37.59 | Chryseus | well.. time is money ;P |
13:38.10 | Chryseus | mikearthur: no, I use vmware :P |
13:38.20 | mikearthur | Chryseus: did you use kqemu when you tried QEMU? |
13:38.24 | Chryseus | nope |
13:39.11 | mikearthur | that would be why then |
13:40.02 | Chryseus | kqemu is just frontend.. I don't believe it affects the speed of qemu in any way |
13:40.55 | Thrain | excuse me |
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13:41.13 | Thrain | How can I bind keyboard shortcuts to kmix sliders? |
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13:42.09 | Thrain | ...... someone? |
13:42.32 | PhilRod | Chryseus: an unfortunate overloading of names - kqemu is also a qemu kernel patch that speeds up qemu |
13:43.13 | PhilRod | Thrain: use Tab to move between sliders, then up and down to change the volume |
13:44.11 | Thrain | PhilRod: uhm, i meant: how can I use special keys in my keyboard to raise/lower the volum |
13:44.14 | Thrain | *volume |
13:44.45 | PhilRod | see user guide |
13:44.48 | PhilRod | ~ug |
13:44.55 | apt | well, ug is http://docs.kde.org/development/en/kdebase/userguide/ |
13:44.55 | Thrain | ? where |
13:45.04 | Thrain | ok :D |
13:45.21 | PhilRod | actually, it might be even easier than that |
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13:45.46 | PhilRod | Thrain: settings->configure global shortcuts in kmix, if a) you have kde 3.5, and b) your extra keys are recognized by X |
13:45.58 | PhilRod | you can test b) by running xev, and pressing one of the keys |
13:46.16 | PhilRod | hiya StevenR |
13:46.23 | StevenR | afternoon PhilRod |
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13:47.20 | Thrain | PhilRod: thank you very much |
13:47.38 | Thrain | PhilRod: I don't know why... but I never saw "global shortcuts" in settings :| |
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13:48.24 | Thrain | mh |
13:48.29 | Thrain | Now I'd like to get OSD :D |
13:49.36 | PhilRod | kmix doesn't have one. I think kmilo does though. Not sure if that'll do what you want |
13:49.53 | PhilRod | actually, you might be able to get kmix to pop up the volume control when you change the volume |
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13:51.29 | Thrain | PhilRod: ok |
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14:12.26 | boldii | hi |
14:13.06 | boldii | why is the konqueror adblocker not working when want to watch pages with akregator? |
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14:35.19 | gemidjy | http://wiki.kde.org/ |
14:35.22 | gemidjy | bad |
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14:43.28 | edeca | My keyboard has 'special' keys that work with lineakd, but is there a way to configure them in KDE? i.e. a GUI that I can attach them to KDE things, instead of writing a lineak config with lots of dcop calls |
14:44.52 | tech9iner | in my suse10 running kde here edeca .. main menu - preferences - regional & accessiblity offers me like 3 difference gui apps for config'g keyboard chit mate |
14:45.34 | edeca | I've never got those to work with lineak :\ Time to have another look, possibly I haven't got it installed right |
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14:47.18 | tech9iner | all i know edeca here.. im pure, anti-mouser, keyboardist here and thus demand 99.99999% keyboard operations of all apps.. or i dont use'em ;]] |
14:47.49 | edeca | vim for you? :) |
14:48.17 | straw | dude, the computer "mouse" was invented before you were born... |
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14:49.48 | tech9iner | thats based on major assumptions your end straw .. roflmfao.. but tx 4 assuming me yute .. and btw.. many moons since chattn straw .. allz well we hopes? |
14:50.07 | Arafangion | tech9iner: In many cases it's faster. |
14:50.17 | straw | its a fact! ;) |
14:50.17 | tech9iner | and to clarify.. im likewise gui dependent.. so not pure CLI operations by any stretch |
14:50.21 | mahmoud | kesi inja hast |
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14:51.04 | tech9iner | still running FedoraCore eh straw ? |
14:51.18 | straw | hells yeah :) |
14:51.44 | tech9iner | lol.. ill be loadn it back up after 5 hits n settles few months straw |
14:52.02 | straw | kget'ing 5 now, matter of fact |
14:52.25 | tech9iner | not formally released as of yet isit straw ? |
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14:52.37 | tech9iner | i thought it was like may |
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14:53.24 | tech9iner | been quite proud of FedoraCore in da news straw .. tween suse/fc me 2 favs.. i can rule the world from me desk straw rofl |
14:53.25 | straw | the mirrors are open. |Jef| of course is disputing that it's "not official" in #fedora as usual, of course :P |
14:54.01 | tech9iner | r o f l m f a o straw .. yea.. Jef wants me.. he just has problems showing affection on irc is all.. |
14:54.17 | straw | i'd swear he practices that song and dance for a week before each release |
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14:54.51 | tech9iner | rofl.. aww.. now your just making me miss me 3+ yrs of .. ahem.. 'Jef'iepoo' now straw hehe |
14:55.02 | straw | heheh |
14:55.07 | tech9iner | hilarious he be |
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14:56.02 | Thrain | hello again :D |
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14:56.51 | Thrain | people |
14:57.00 | tech9iner | btw straw .. for chits n giggles mate.. Jef has an eville twin in #suse.. rofl.. Nermal.. |
14:57.07 | Thrain | I'd like to know an application for mail notification |
14:57.14 | Thrain | kbiff doesn't work for me |
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14:57.46 | Thrain | kmail checks for mail but after some tries it stops checking for certain accounts |
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14:58.07 | Thrain | So, I don't know any alternatives |
14:58.11 | Thrain | can you give me one? |
14:58.49 | straw | tech9iner: there's always someone with an ego that needs constant stroking :D |
14:58.57 | Vinky | Is it possible to give a keycode instead of a keysym in khotkeys? my symbols doesnt work |
14:59.56 | tech9iner | hehe.. true datt straw .. damned human beanz i say.. off widdere bloody rotten 'eadz.. the lot of em i say straw .. like me fav line in end of move needful things.. 'Kill them ALL!! Let God sort them out!' rofl |
15:00.10 | straw | heheh |
15:00.46 | tech9iner | move*movie.. yet i digress.. |
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15:12.02 | edeca | Thanks tech9iner for your help, I actually fixed it by installing the KDE bindings for lineak |
15:12.36 | tech9iner | cooness edeca .. np |
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15:27.13 | DaBlade | Hello. I got a small problem with kdesktop |
15:27.25 | DaBlade | "Align to grid" doesn't work |
15:27.32 | DaBlade | It just doesn't do anything, at all |
15:29.19 | StevenR | how do i make konversation remember that I've resized the nick list? when i change channels and back again it resets the width, which is really annoying |
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15:30.18 | DaBlade | StevenR: Check the permissions of your profile |
15:30.28 | DaBlade | StevenR: Or ask in #konversation |
15:30.34 | DaBlade | Now can someone help me out? lol |
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15:33.22 | StevenR | DaBlade: the perms are fine |
15:33.25 | StevenR | :(:S |
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15:34.24 | DaBlade | StevenR: #konversation or /msg Sho_ |
15:34.44 | StevenR | DaBlade: yeah already there....went there 1st :) |
15:35.31 | DaBlade | k |
15:35.57 | DaBlade | Now does anyone know how I can fix the "Align to grid"? |
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15:40.16 | TeaSea | New kernel, brb. |
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15:51.54 | _sfx | hi all |
15:52.01 | _sfx | i want to install icon packet |
15:52.18 | _sfx | but i dont know |
15:52.23 | _sfx | can you help me ? |
15:52.40 | pinotree | kcontrol -> look & themes -> icons -> import -> select the tarball -> ok |
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15:53.24 | _sfx | ok i am trying |
15:53.39 | MoRYeLLL | selam |
15:54.13 | SimAtWork | morning all |
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15:56.45 | MoRYeLLL | :D |
15:56.48 | doktoreas | guys do you know if i kmail can i set de quoting txt in differents color? |
15:56.49 | MoRYeLLL | aleyküm selam |
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15:57.27 | pinotree | doktoreas: sure, take a look at the preferences |
15:57.41 | pinotree | look&feel -> colors |
15:58.16 | Thrain | a superkaramba theme for mail notification? |
15:58.20 | _sfx | ohh guys... how can i install cursors :) |
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15:58.30 | dagnachew | hello all\ |
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15:58.38 | dagnachew | how to change the kdm theme ? |
15:58.56 | pinotree | _sfx: !? did you already ask that? (and i give you a reply...) |
15:59.07 | tech9iner | heh.. moin pinotree |
15:59.12 | pinotree | m |
15:59.35 | pinotree | Thrain: have you seen if among the newstuff themes there's one for that? |
15:59.38 | _sfx | pinotree: i asked icons |
15:59.47 | _sfx | curors like icon packets ? |
16:00.07 | pinotree | cursors |= icon themes |
16:00.09 | Thrain | pinotree: no |
16:00.16 | Thrain | pinotree: there isn't |
16:00.24 | boldii | I have lost my menu by deleting some folders in ~ but I don't know which. Can I get it back somehow. my distro is Kubuntu. |
16:00.30 | pinotree | than: kde-look.org, karamba section? |
16:01.40 | SimAtWork | boldii: you deleted stuff without knowing what you where delting? |
16:01.49 | SimAtWork | boldii: did you delete using the gui? (ie, is it in the trash can). |
16:02.40 | boldii | SimAtWork: no, I used the console. and it was a mistake with a -R which remained from the last rm ... I know. kind of stupid. |
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16:05.33 | Thrain | pinotree: I found just one - Aero AIO |
16:05.45 | MoRYeLLL | ay lav yu PARDUS |
16:05.55 | MoRYeLLL | :) |
16:06.00 | boldii | so there is no way to get it back? |
16:06.09 | _sfx | MoRYeLLL: :)) |
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16:06.20 | _sfx | pardus suxx :PP |
16:06.26 | MoRYeLLL | :) |
16:06.31 | MoRYeLLL | warsa sorunu olan |
16:06.34 | MoRYeLLL | yardımcı olunur |
16:06.36 | MoRYeLLL | :) |
16:06.41 | _sfx | eheh :P |
16:06.49 | MoRYeLLL | sfx dün gaim kurdum |
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16:06.55 | MoRYeLLL | sen kurdunmu amsn sorunlu çıktı |
16:07.20 | pinotree | aehm... |
16:07.27 | MoRYeLLL | aehm.. |
16:07.33 | pinotree | english, please... |
16:07.51 | _sfx | pinotree: ok :) |
16:09.05 | SimAtWork | boldii: i think you're hooped . |
16:09.10 | SimAtWork | boldii: you mihgt want to check out libtrash |
16:09.14 | SimAtWork | for future fumblings |
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16:14.02 | tech9iner | hmmm.. fun fun fun |
16:14.02 | tech9iner | weeeeee.. |
16:14.03 | _sfx | woow |
16:14.03 | _sfx | :D |
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16:15.35 | MoRYeLLL | goo goo .D |
16:15.59 | MoRYeLLL | aym go tu du away |
16:16.03 | MoRYeLLL | okey |
16:16.11 | MoRYeLLL | biye biye |
16:16.34 | MoRYeLLL | ay lav yu türkiye ay lav yu pathera pardus |
16:16.41 | MoRYeLLL | ay lav yu al |
16:16.45 | MoRYeLLL | <PROTECTED> |
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16:33.35 | munzir | Hi, I just launched knights but the option of play chess with computer is dimmed. how should I enable it?! |
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16:35.24 | StevenR | munzir: make sure you have the appropriate packages for the chess backend installed |
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16:36.21 | munzir | StevenR: like what? I have xboard and gnuchess installed for example |
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16:36.31 | elvaka | he ppl |
16:36.36 | elvaka | *hello |
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16:36.51 | StevenR | munzir: does xboard work? |
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16:38.42 | munzir | StevenR: xboard alone gives me an error of can't find program gnuchessx broken pipe or something! |
16:38.53 | StevenR | there you go then |
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16:39.18 | StevenR | xboard is being nice and giving you a usefull error |
16:40.45 | elvaka | when i press the middle button of the mouse, it pastes the text in the clipboard. Can i disable that? |
16:43.27 | munzir | StevenR: you are right! so I need to add /usr/games/gnuchessx to the path I guess. I will try it now |
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16:45.07 | munzir | StevenR: I added it to the path and xboard works but still knights doesn't! |
16:45.14 | StevenR | hmmm |
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16:47.49 | nestorm | hi everyone |
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16:49.32 | munzir | I will try to check it more later any way. thanks |
16:51.39 | elvaka | why alsa is turned off when I enter the kde desktop? |
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16:59.55 | Death_Wish | i was wondering where is kdmrc located? |
17:01.25 | SimAtWork | it varies by distro |
17:01.34 | SimAtWork | best way to find it is touse locate |
17:01.55 | Death_Wish | im on gentoo |
17:02.07 | pinotree | $KDEDIR/share/config/kdmrc |
17:02.09 | pinotree | iirc |
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17:03.50 | Death_Wish | pinotree: it says that files is not there :S |
17:04.24 | elvaka | why alsa is turned off when I enter the kde desktop? |
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17:10.15 | SimAtWork | elvaka: alsa is not part of kde (although it is used by kde). |
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17:15.05 | elvaka | where can i ask about alsa? |
17:15.27 | nestorm | elvaka, what exactly? |
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17:16.02 | elvaka | why alsa is turned off when I enter the kde desktop |
17:16.34 | nestorm | what distro are you using? |
17:16.45 | elvaka | suse |
17:17.13 | elvaka | what is the command for turn on alsa? i can put it in Autostart |
17:17.21 | nestorm | elvaka: no |
17:17.26 | nestorm | that is not a good idea |
17:17.33 | elvaka | why? |
17:17.45 | nestorm | At suse control center you should see a Service Handling entry |
17:17.49 | nestorm | or something like that |
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17:18.02 | elvaka | ? |
17:18.03 | nestorm | Services |
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17:18.20 | elvaka | where is it? |
17:18.20 | nestorm | Do you know what I mean? |
17:18.26 | nestorm | ?? |
17:18.40 | nestorm | How long has you been using suse? |
17:18.49 | elvaka | 3 days |
17:18.50 | elvaka | :P |
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17:18.59 | elvaka | i'm in the cc |
17:18.59 | nestorm | ok |
17:19.05 | benJIman | yast -> system -> system services ->runlevel editor |
17:19.09 | nestorm | look for system>services |
17:19.09 | elvaka | ok |
17:19.13 | nestorm | that's right |
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17:19.33 | benJIman | but you don't want to be turning on alsa there unless yo udisabled it yourself |
17:19.40 | benJIman | yast -> hardware -> sound, configure it there |
17:19.41 | nestorm | can you see there if it starts on boot? |
17:20.07 | nestorm | benJIman: thanks, I havent used suse too much |
17:20.12 | LnxSlck | hello everyone |
17:20.14 | elvaka | wait plz |
17:20.23 | elvaka | alsasound |
17:20.30 | elvaka | is turned on |
17:20.36 | nestorm | mmm |
17:20.39 | benJIman | elvaka: what made you think it was turned off? |
17:20.49 | benJIman | "cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp" do you hear noise? |
17:21.16 | elvaka | i can't hear any sound |
17:21.24 | benJIman | yast -> hardware -> sound card, configure it there |
17:21.29 | elvaka | but if i disable in the cc and i reenable it |
17:21.31 | elvaka | it works |
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17:22.21 | benJIman | perhaps you have a sucky sound driver that only lets you output one thing at at a time and arts or something is hogging it |
17:22.35 | maro | is it possible to make kwrite not print a dot for tabs? |
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17:23.06 | elvaka | i have the last realtek driver |
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17:24.05 | nestorm | maro: yes |
17:24.16 | maro | nestorm: how? :) |
17:24.21 | nestorm | XDD |
17:24.25 | maro | I've been through the menu three times now |
17:24.31 | nestorm | I know you were going to ask me that |
17:24.38 | nestorm | XD |
17:24.52 | maro | ;) |
17:24.57 | nestorm | maro: those dots are not printed, did you know that? |
17:26.23 | elvaka | with cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp i hear a noise |
17:26.28 | nestorm | Preferences>Configure Editor>Editing>Show tabs |
17:26.32 | nestorm | take the check out |
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17:26.59 | nestorm | maro: I'm translating the interface, so it maybe different in your screen |
17:27.14 | LorD_RaGe | hello to everyone..., does anybody have any idea why kaffeine sucks?? |
17:27.27 | LorD_RaGe | i have my codecs installed, yet no video appears... |
17:27.37 | benJIman | LorD_RaGe: you probably need an uncrippled xine |
17:27.40 | benJIman | what distribution are you using? |
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17:27.50 | LorD_RaGe | suse 10 |
17:28.02 | LorD_RaGe | how's that? |
17:28.16 | LorD_RaGe | wut do i do? |
17:28.23 | elvaka | i have the same problem with kaffeine :P |
17:28.34 | benJIman | LorD_RaGe: install libxine1 from packman |
17:28.41 | benJIman | you can add it as a package source to yast |
17:28.49 | benJIman | install kaffeine from packman too |
17:28.54 | LorD_RaGe | okz |
17:29.02 | LorD_RaGe | i'll give it a try |
17:29.29 | benJIman | further questions -> #suse |
17:30.03 | maro | nestorm: ah, thanks! |
17:30.18 | LorD_RaGe | thnx!!! |
17:30.23 | maro | I guess I was looking for "mark tabs" or something :) |
17:30.42 | nestorm | hehehe |
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17:35.01 | wimpies | Need some help with kde progress dialog ... pops up all the time |
17:35.13 | wimpies | Also would like amarok to start when inserting CD and not KSCD |
17:35.17 | wimpies | How ? |
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17:37.29 | Enverex | Konqeror has been messing my system up a bit lately. I've noticed my computer going up to 100% RAM, SWAP and CPU usage and becomes unusage |
17:37.33 | Enverex | *unusable |
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17:37.48 | Enverex | The task doing it was Kio-thumbnails |
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17:37.56 | Enverex | Which Is assume is part of KDE, right? |
17:38.56 | SimAtWork | it definately is |
17:39.02 | SimAtWork | i wonder what it was doin |
17:39.15 | Enverex | Killing my machine, heh |
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17:39.37 | Enverex | The machine just seems to lock up when RAM and SWAP reach 100% and I can't do anything, the HD just goes mad (the swap I assume) |
17:39.57 | LorD_RaGe | panic? |
17:40.04 | Enverex | I need to find out why it was doing this else I'm going to have to switch to Gnome =/ |
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17:40.31 | LorD_RaGe | u r going to kill everyone in this channel if u do that jeje |
17:40.37 | Enverex | No, it doesn't actually panic or anything, just slows down due to so much swapping that it becomes unusable (screen doesn't even refresh) |
17:41.03 | LorD_RaGe | auch, how much swap do u have? |
17:42.04 | LorD_RaGe | have u seen if KDE autostarts dumb apps?? |
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17:49.53 | elvaka | yeah i has alsa working again |
17:49.59 | elvaka | *have |
17:50.21 | wimpies | audiocd and amarok ... anybody know how to get t his going ? |
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17:52.40 | markey | wimpies: yah, with amarok 1.4 and xine engine |
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17:54.00 | Enverex | LorD_RaGe, 1GB swap and what apps do you refer to? |
17:54.07 | litb | wimpies: audiocd and amarok sucks |
17:54.07 | litb | at least when i tested it |
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17:54.49 | wimpies | KSCD does not work for me (I presume no cable to sound card) |
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17:55.10 | elvaka | xine engine never works |
17:55.29 | wimpies | I tried the arts backend but I get no sound out of it (mp3 files work) |
17:55.44 | Enverex | Amarok is great |
17:56.13 | wimpies | enverex : if I could get it to play audio cd ... yes |
17:57.30 | Enverex | heh, haven't played an Audio CD for years |
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17:58.06 | wimpies | Hmmm, just killed a fiew kio_audiocd processes and now I get sound |
17:58.22 | wimpies | but it skips (hickkups ?) |
17:58.52 | wimpies | Let me logout and see if it improves |
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18:00.36 | wimpies | Hmm artsd segfaults .. great ... |
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18:07.52 | bauerbob | hi |
18:08.28 | bauerbob | how can i stop kmail from opening several connections/doing multitasking on my imap mailserver? |
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18:14.45 | pinucset | one think, i dont know why but in my kmail folders (with lists) when i have all of them read and i pass to another folder it is ok, but when i regress to the folder wich i have read all the mails it mark some last mails at no read... please help... |
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18:14.55 | pinucset | kde 3.5.1 debian unstalbe |
18:14.57 | lastent | hi i need to know something can i have kde and gnome, and chosee one before login? |
18:15.15 | LorD_RaGe | yes |
18:15.31 | LorD_RaGe | wut distro r u usin? |
18:15.41 | lastent | ubuntu |
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18:15.54 | LorD_RaGe | ubuntu only uses gnome |
18:16.01 | LorD_RaGe | kubuntu uses kde |
18:16.51 | lastent | see i was using gnome i dont know what happente but now i am using kde, i think i remove gnome |
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18:24.46 | elvaka | ... |
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18:30.19 | StR | Hi all! |
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18:30.37 | StR | in kmail, how can I reply a mail with HTML format? |
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18:32.42 | LorD_RaGe | how'd u installed it?? from a dvd or a cd |
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18:34.30 | HamishTPB | StR: if you click reply then click "Options> Formatting (HTML)" |
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18:35.01 | elvaka | if i kill the kde desktop... is normal that the gnome desktop appears? |
18:35.12 | StR | HamishTPB: it only shows/hides the format bar |
18:35.31 | HamishTPB | Str: yes but you can use the formatting then it makes the reply HTML |
18:36.33 | teatime | elvaka: no |
18:36.34 | StR | HamishTPB: so, I have to set by hand all the format the original mail has? |
18:36.51 | hubipete | hi all, I thought of the KDE website landscape because I think it is really crappy atm, so I wrote a concept how I would like to see the KDE realted sites organised... http://hubipete.hu.funpic.de/kde/website_landscape.html |
18:36.52 | hubipete | please read it and let me know your opinion |
18:37.32 | HamishTPB | StR: No - it should pick it up as long as you have set to allow HTML in the message before you hit reply. You can allow by default or click the header option in individual messages. |
18:38.28 | elvaka | why it happens? |
18:38.29 | HamishTPB | hubipete: the annoying flying advert popup stopped me looking after 5 seconds - sorry. And I didn't allow the cookies either |
18:38.59 | fredrikh | hubipete: the kde-www@kde.org mailing list would be a much better choice than this channel |
18:39.08 | hubipete | HamishTPB: this advert is there because I don't want to pay expensive webspace |
18:39.16 | hubipete | fredrikh: ok I will post it there |
18:39.38 | HamishTPB | hubipete: I know that mate but you will not get a lot of people looking if things like that happen :/ |
18:39.57 | HamishTPB | hubipete: don't you have some ad free space from your ISP or something? |
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18:40.18 | hubipete | HamishTPB: unfortunately not... |
18:40.33 | HamishTPB | hubipete: bummer :( |
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18:41.04 | HamishTPB | hubipete: if it something that the KDE ppl consider seriously I am sure it would be hosted somewhere there... |
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18:42.20 | hubipete | HamishTPB: i hope so but first it has to be read... |
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18:43.02 | sam^ | hi |
18:43.06 | HamishTPB | hubipete: yeah - how big is it? |
18:44.01 | hubipete | HamishTPB: the file has about 7kb without images and css |
18:44.15 | HamishTPB | I can host it temp if you like? |
18:45.03 | HamishTPB | hubipete: because I really think the adverts and cookies will detract from it and discourage people looking |
18:45.27 | HamishTPB | hubipete: as long as it isn't too large with the gfx and stuff I will host for you no probs |
18:45.33 | hubipete | HamishTPB: this is very friendly but I don't think you have to do so, as i will post it to the mailing list which is certainly the best place |
18:45.50 | hubipete | better than a website :-) |
18:45.53 | HamishTPB | ah |
18:45.54 | HamishTPB | ok |
18:45.56 | HamishTPB | I see what you mean |
18:46.06 | HamishTPB | well - if you change your mind let me know |
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18:46.56 | hubipete | HamishTPB: yeah thanks a lot for your offer |
18:47.31 | HamishTPB | hubipete: I don't mind when it is for the community :) |
18:48.06 | HamishTPB | hubipete: I thought there was more of a mock-up website there you see - but it was more adverts :D |
18:48.41 | hubipete | HamishTPB: :-D had no time to do a mockup |
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18:49.21 | HamishTPB | hubipete: :) |
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18:55.11 | aronofsky | hi guys , i got some problems with alsa and amarok, i got my alsa driver buit in my kernel , it works ok with xmms , but with amarok its impossible to detect or initialize audio device , it seems its not detected or recognize , I dont know what to do ? |
18:55.51 | HamishTPB | aronofsky: what sound engine are you using? |
18:56.42 | aronofsky | HamishTPB, try to use xine , but every time I try to select it it tells me "unable to initialize any audio devices" |
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18:57.11 | aronofsky | HamishTPB, "any audio-driver" to be exact |
18:57.14 | HamishTPB | aronofsky: when you select Xine you need to press apply then fill in the alsa devices in the boxes |
18:57.34 | HamishTPB | aronofsky: e.g. plug:dmix or plug:default |
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18:57.57 | aronofsky | HamishTPB, thats what i try to do but when i press apply it tells me taht error |
18:58.07 | HamishTPB | oh |
18:58.08 | HamishTPB | hmmn |
18:58.32 | HamishTPB | so you can select "XIne" from the drop down? |
18:58.57 | aronofsky | what do you mean : "plug:dmix or plug:defaul" ? |
18:59.10 | HamishTPB | aronofsky: hang on I will show you a screenshot of mine |
19:00.21 | HamishTPB | aronofsky: ftp://pbmm.net/pbmm/gfx/screenie.png |
19:00.23 | HamishTPB | oops |
19:00.27 | HamishTPB | aronofsky: http://pbmm.net/pbmm/gfx/screenie.png |
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19:00.53 | aronofsky | HamishTPB, login/password ? |
19:01.00 | HamishTPB | sorry - use second link |
19:01.05 | HamishTPB | http:// |
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19:02.36 | HamishTPB | ah sorry |
19:02.42 | HamishTPB | still giving you a duff link |
19:02.49 | HamishTPB | aronofsky: http://www.pbmm.net/gfx/screenie.png |
19:02.54 | HamishTPB | third time lucky :P |
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19:03.38 | aronofsky | HamishTPB, yeah ok but as I tell you im even unable to select xine as engine , i got directly the error msg |
19:03.45 | HamishTPB | aronofsky: ok :/ |
19:03.53 | HamishTPB | aronofsky: what distro? |
19:04.03 | aronofsky | HamishTPB, debian |
19:04.06 | HamishTPB | eep |
19:04.13 | HamishTPB | aronofsky: I am afraid I know nothing about that |
19:05.11 | HamishTPB | aronofsky: I would suggest you check what flags xine / amaroK are compiled with but I don't know how you would know in Debian :/ |
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19:06.03 | HamishTPB | is xine-lib installed? |
19:06.12 | HamishTPB | aronofsky: is xine-lib installed? |
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19:06.41 | lethal_dose | In konqueror, how can i hide files terminating with ~ ? |
19:06.58 | aronofsky | HamishTPB, yes |
19:07.13 | HamishTPB | aronofsky: do you know how to check the flags a package was installed with? |
19:07.52 | aronofsky | HamishTPB, no but im sure it has alsa support because it was working on anoter machine |
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19:08.10 | HamishTPB | aronofsky: yes but it is amaroK's flags I am interested in |
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19:08.24 | HamishTPB | aronofsky: whether amaroK had the xine flag set |
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19:09.28 | Wizz_Kidd13 | hmm |
19:09.34 | HamishTPB | aronofsky: as far as I know amaroK doesn't have a built in sound output system, so it doesn't directly use alsa - it uses another application (like Xine) |
19:09.43 | Wizz_Kidd13 | in Gnome theres something called GNconf or something like that |
19:09.57 | Wizz_Kidd13 | anything like that in KDE |
19:10.06 | HamishTPB | Wizz_Kidd13: what does it configure? |
19:10.25 | Wizz_Kidd13 | its like instead of using config files |
19:10.31 | Wizz_Kidd13 | for your apps |
19:10.32 | HamishTPB | Wizz_Kidd13: kcontrol |
19:10.35 | HamishTPB | oh |
19:10.59 | Wizz_Kidd13 | http://www.gnome.org/projects/gconf/ |
19:11.06 | Wizz_Kidd13 | tell me the KDE equivalent |
19:11.09 | HamishTPB | Wizz_Kidd13: thanks - will take a peek BRB |
19:11.58 | Wizz_Kidd13 | no problemo |
19:12.06 | Wizz_Kidd13 | but i iknow theres a kde equiv |
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19:12.52 | HamishTPB | Wizz_Kidd13: hmmn not sure I get exactly what it does but most KDE apps store their prefs themselves and are gui configurable per application. All shared config information is done with kcontrol (Control Centre on the KDE menu) |
19:13.20 | Wizz_Kidd13 | well it elinates |
19:13.26 | Wizz_Kidd13 | the use of a cinfig file |
19:13.30 | Wizz_Kidd13 | config |
19:13.43 | Wizz_Kidd13 | and stores user prefernces very managebly |
19:13.53 | HamishTPB | hmmn |
19:14.09 | Wizz_Kidd13 | kde has to have a equiv ;) |
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19:14.23 | HamishTPB | all KDE apps have their own gui configurable prefs so I don't quite see what you mean |
19:14.31 | HamishTPB | is it for non-gui apps? |
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19:14.47 | aronofsky | HamishTPB, thats crazy , it was working before I reinstall the sytem , I got nothing more installed |
19:15.00 | HamishTPB | aronofsky: ah, I see. |
19:15.08 | HamishTPB | I am on the phone - back in a little while |
19:15.19 | Wizz_Kidd13 | HamishTPByour not understanding me |
19:15.36 | Wizz_Kidd13 | or seeing the purpose of Gconf |
19:15.40 | aronofsky | HamishTPB, and alsa is working with xmms , it must be something silly |
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19:18.25 | Julianyus | hi |
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19:18.53 | zorglu1 | q. is there a good screencasting tool under kde ? |
19:19.13 | zorglu1 | good as in 'easy to use' and 'able to produce flash video' |
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19:20.24 | benJIman | zorglu1: there's vnc2swf or something, if you just want normal video you could use xvidcap |
19:20.39 | benJIman | zorglu1: not sure why you'd want to make flash, it's proprietary |
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19:26.04 | Wizz_Kidd13 | HamishTPBKconfig was the anwser ;) |
19:26.46 | HamishTPB | Wizz_Kidd13: ok :) Good stuff - still on the phone |
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19:36.38 | snoopy | Hi! Short question, which channel would be fine to ask c++ specific questions (cxx is rather deserted...) |
19:37.23 | Death_Wish | snoopy look up programming forums :P |
19:37.29 | Death_Wish | has anyone use conky? |
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19:39.19 | snoopy | Death_Wish: well, don't think searching for "undefined symbol" (dlopen) and namespaces are an easy search... |
19:40.05 | Death_Wish | go to this site and they will hellp u trust me im a member |
19:40.14 | Death_Wish | devshed.com |
19:40.24 | HamishTPB | aronofsky: sorry about that - long phone call |
19:40.40 | snoopy | Death_Wish: thnx :-) hope that's a good one |
19:40.46 | Death_Wish | it is |
19:40.57 | HamishTPB | aronofsky: where were we... OK - so you have had amaroK working before? what happened then - is this a new install? |
19:41.33 | snoopy | Death_Wish: good ;-) thnx |
19:41.39 | Death_Wish | np |
19:41.45 | HamishTPB | aronofsky: and alsa working with xmms is good but not directly relevant - xmms has a direct alsa output plugin - amaroK doesn't |
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19:48.14 | snoopy | Death_Wish: did some research in BRAIN(tm) which gave me a solution, thnx anyway ;-) |
19:48.29 | Death_Wish | np |
19:49.09 | Death_Wish | can someone help me explain when i did a minimal install of kde 3.5.1 i have to keep going to run nd type xterm to use a terminal ? |
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19:49.31 | HamishTPB | Death_Wish: instead of? |
19:49.38 | HamishTPB | Death_Wish: and hello again :) |
19:50.04 | davidr | can anyone help with a ksirc peeve? |
19:50.07 | Death_Wish | i did kdebase-startkde and i have to use run inorder to use terminal |
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19:50.18 | HamishTPB | Death_Wish: do you mean instead of it having a menu entry? |
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19:50.33 | Death_Wish | it has no menu entry like if i did emerge kde |
19:50.36 | HamishTPB | k |
19:50.55 | HamishTPB | Death_Wish: does your menu have..Settings>Menu Updating Tool? |
19:50.57 | Death_Wish | and i was wondering if there was a package for that |
19:51.11 | davidr | can anyone help with a ksirc peeve? |
19:51.15 | Death_Wish | no |
19:51.22 | HamishTPB | Death_Wish: or you could install Konsole which is the KDE console program |
19:51.40 | HamishTPB | Death_Wish: you can add it using the menu editor manually then |
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19:52.07 | frik85 | hi all |
19:52.07 | HamishTPB | davidr: best to ask the question matey - just go for it - if someone knows they will say :) |
19:52.14 | davidr | ok. tnx. |
19:52.16 | Death_Wish | i wanted it the way it was done when u do emerge kde |
19:52.30 | davidr | i'm trying to use ksirc's notifications ... |
19:52.38 | frik85 | does someone know an irc-channel for the KAT project from the KDE group ? |
19:52.50 | frik85 | (search and index app) |
19:52.57 | davidr | trying to configure it to "show a message in a popup window" |
19:53.01 | frik85 | (similar to spotlight and beagle) |
19:53.04 | davidr | but it never seems to pop up anything |
19:53.15 | HamishTPB | Death_Wish: konsole is the default one but like I say - you can add xterm to the menu manually |
19:53.17 | davidr | anyone know what the prob might be? |
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19:53.36 | Death_Wish | i did /bin/bash but nothing |
19:53.53 | HamishTPB | Death_Wish: you don't get a shell at all? |
19:54.00 | Death_Wish | nope |
19:54.23 | HamishTPB | Death_Wish: sounds like your set up is a bit screwed or am I not quite understanding something |
19:54.41 | Death_Wish | i typed in run /bin/bash |
19:54.43 | Death_Wish | nothing |
19:55.08 | HamishTPB | Death_Wish: ah - you need to run "xterm" or "Eterm" or "Konsole" or whatever one you have installed |
19:55.41 | davidr | anyone know what that ksirc prob might be? |
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19:55.55 | davidr | does that feature just not work? |
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19:56.20 | HamishTPB | davidr: there might be a kvirc channel - afraid I don't use that client myself |
19:56.23 | HamishTPB | oops |
19:56.29 | Xaero_Vincent | hello does anyone know if Windows in Gnome 2.14 move smoother now with less ghosting? |
19:56.33 | Death_Wish | im going to install yakuake :D |
19:56.34 | HamishTPB | I mean ksirc - I use kvirc :) |
19:56.37 | Xaero_Vincent | sorry but ##gnome aint talken |
19:56.39 | HamishTPB | Death_Wish: okely :) |
19:56.47 | Death_Wish | its better :P |
19:56.47 | ExitMenu | in konquer can I change the default view so its always detail list, and if so how a I am lost |
19:56.54 | Sho_ | Death_Wish: Cool |
19:56.58 | Sho_ | Death_Wish: Hope you like it |
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19:57.11 | davidr | HamishTPB: ok. thanks anyway |
19:57.13 | Death_Wish | HamishTPB, can u explain why when i lick on a link in FireFox it does nothing? |
19:57.22 | Death_Wish | click* |
19:57.28 | aronofsky | HamishTPB, sorry i was eating |
19:57.28 | Benedict_ | anyone here using xorg composite and translucency? |
19:57.34 | Death_Wish | i can't right |
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19:57.52 | aronofsky | HamishTPB, so yes as you said alsa+xmms works but its not directly relevant |
19:57.52 | HamishTPB | ExitMenu: when you set your view the way you like it you can create a profile or save it as the default by using "Settings> Save profile or profile view management" |
19:58.01 | ExitMenu | ta |
19:58.05 | HamishTPB | davidr: no probs - sorry couldn't me more help |
19:58.18 | HamishTPB | Death_Wish: not without more information |
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19:58.27 | HamishTPB | aronofsky: no problem matey - about to do the same :) |
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19:58.52 | aronofsky | HamishTPB, I really dont knwo what to do |
19:59.03 | Death_Wish | HamishTPB, what info would u need and ill try and give it to ya |
19:59.25 | HamishTPB | Death_Wish: not sure to be honest - is a very vague problem :/ |
19:59.31 | Death_Wish | yeah |
19:59.35 | Death_Wish | ill reinstall it |
20:00.25 | zorglu1 | benJIman: i want to make flash to produce webpage video. flash is proprietary ok, but i want my video to be seen and no other codec are anywhere close to flash for this purpose |
20:00.38 | HamishTPB | aronofsky: OK - so you have had amaroK working before? what happened then - is this a new install? |
20:01.13 | aronofsky | HamishTPB, yes it is |
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20:01.33 | nik | hello |
20:01.39 | HamishTPB | aronofsky: it sounds like a library or package is missing to be honest :/ |
20:02.00 | zorglu1 | benJIman: im aware of vnc2swf but the usage is painfull, e.g. the vncserver to configure by hand and making what vnc is capturing quite hard to select |
20:02.33 | aronofsky | HamishTPB, maybe but how can i figure it out ? |
20:02.46 | HamishTPB | aronofsky: in Debian I am afraid I don't know :( |
20:02.47 | zorglu1 | i think linux should integrate the current web stuff and not segregate itself from it just to push politics view about openness |
20:03.03 | nik | I like to have the location bar of konqueror beside (right) the icons...I can put it there, but only if the konqueror window has a large enough width...If I make the window smaller, the location par drops below the icon bar...; how to say konqueror that the location bar should be beside the icons bar? |
20:03.05 | Death_Wish | hey HamishTPB you would know how to change the kmenu icon would u? |
20:03.25 | illogical | 'tis sadly gone from the minds of the current generation. Shameful! |
20:03.28 | HamishTPB | zorglu1: it is not "linux that segregates itself" it is the closed software that doesn't keep up development on Linux versions |
20:03.58 | HamishTPB | Death_Wish: I think you need to manually replace the icon file - have a search on the gentoo forum I think I seen it there |
20:04.15 | Death_Wish | oh ok thank you sorry for my dumb questions |
20:04.22 | zorglu1 | HamishTPB: ? which close software are you talking about ? it is currently possible to produce flash video with ffmpeg. is it considered close software ? |
20:04.32 | benJIman | zorglu1: if all the web was in a proprietary format like flash we'd all be using internet explorer on windows with IIS servers |
20:04.56 | HamishTPB | zorglu1: flash and skype are two examples |
20:05.02 | zorglu1 | benJIman: lets be clear "I am all for free software" |
20:05.08 | HamishTPB | and benJIman is absolutely correct |
20:05.14 | HamishTPB | Death_Wish: no problem mate |
20:05.15 | zorglu1 | but currently i want to do a screencast |
20:05.19 | benJIman | the format specs are open but you may not use them to make a player |
20:05.32 | zorglu1 | and doing it under linux is 'impossible for a plain user' |
20:05.36 | HamishTPB | Death_Wish: I would ignore you if I didn't know or didn't want to say ;-) |
20:05.47 | zorglu1 | so does it have to switch to window to do the screencast ? |
20:05.49 | Death_Wish | why u say that? |
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20:06.18 | zorglu1 | i mean what linux have to win in forcing people wiching to do screencast to use window ? |
20:06.23 | HamishTPB | Death_Wish: because you were apologising for what you thought were "stupid" questions :) I don't mind helping at all is what I am saying :) |
20:06.34 | Death_Wish | oh ok :P |
20:06.35 | zorglu1 | another thing to be clear i use linux only for more than 10years |
20:06.37 | Death_Wish | thanks |
20:08.00 | HamishTPB | zorglu1: what I am saying is that the problem of a specific format not being useable or editable on Linux is not the fault of anyone in the free software world - it is up to the makers of a proprietary format / program to allow linux developers (outside or in their own company) to work on them |
20:08.49 | HamishTPB | zorglu1: if they don't but there is a great need for the functionality of an application or format then more often that not an open alternative will appear |
20:08.54 | zorglu1 | HamishTPB: ? it is currently possible to record flash video on linux (via ffmpeg) and it is possible to play flash video on linux (via flash plugin) |
20:09.23 | HamishTPB | zorglu1: only up to certain versions, at the whim of Macromedia (Adobe now I think) |
20:09.31 | zorglu1 | so why not coding an apps able to record screencast and pass it thru ffmap |
20:10.01 | HamishTPB | zorglu1: I don't know whay "screencast" is but I think my answers above cover things |
20:10.14 | zorglu1 | HamishTPB: well im able to watch the flash video i found on the web. so i guess the flash pluging on linux support 'enought of the flash video' |
20:10.42 | benJIman | zorglu1: macromedia could stop developing the plugin and then you'd not be able to watch them any more |
20:10.43 | zorglu1 | HamishTPB: screencast is simply 'record the screen of your desktop and produce a video of it' |
20:10.56 | zorglu1 | benJIman: yep but currently they do |
20:10.57 | HamishTPB | zorglu1: yes - most flash is still compatible but the win version of flash has been updated and some Flash won't work. Also - there is not a shockwave player for Linux |
20:11.14 | benJIman | zorglu1: they do, but you're not even allowed to redistribute it |
20:11.22 | HamishTPB | zorglu1: the point is that they don't though - we are a version behind the win flash |
20:11.29 | benJIman | and you're locking people into a dependence on macromedia |
20:11.51 | HamishTPB | zorglu1: I am sure there is a program to do that on Linux if you look around (like screncast I mean) |
20:11.56 | Death_Wish | Ham do u know how to bind the kde menu with the windows key cause i tried to do it but it won't work :( |
20:12.01 | zorglu1 | HamishTPB: benJIman: i agree with all you says |
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20:12.19 | HamishTPB | Death_Wish: afraid not - I think you may need to use xmodmap or something |
20:12.25 | zorglu1 | HamishTPB: believe it or not. but none is easy to use. and something like 5 exists on windows |
20:12.45 | HamishTPB | sorry to leave just now chaps but I really have to go eat - will be back later :) |
20:12.58 | zorglu1 | HamishTPB: benJIman: the point is i see them as relevant. here it is why: |
20:13.16 | benJIman | zorglu1: you don't need to make them flash though |
20:13.18 | HamishTPB | zorglu1: sorry mate - I am not being rude but I really need to go afk for now |
20:13.24 | benJIman | any video type will do |
20:13.25 | HamishTPB | I will be back later though |
20:13.44 | zorglu1 | 1. macromedia *could* stop providing it. yep but currently they do and dont plan to stop |
20:14.17 | zorglu1 | 2. you put a dependance on a close format. true. but no other format is anywhere close the usabiility of this one |
20:14.32 | zorglu1 | benJIman: well not if you want your video to be viewable |
20:14.46 | zorglu1 | benJIman: flash video is by VERY far the most viewable. |
20:14.58 | zorglu1 | 98% of internet can see flash video |
20:15.09 | zorglu1 | i think the other closest codec is like 60% |
20:15.52 | benJIman | there is no 64bit flash, it is VERY cpu intensive on linux, audio desyncs etc, and you're not allowed to use the specs to make a rival player, plus the EULA is very restrictive compared to even other proprietary software |
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20:15.56 | imachine | hi |
20:16.07 | zorglu1 | benJIman, i DO agree |
20:16.15 | zorglu1 | benJIman: but there is NO alternative |
20:16.27 | imachine | pardon me for the possibly trivial question, but is there some kind of a alarm clock on kde 3.5.1? |
20:16.29 | zorglu1 | benJIman: or more simply, can you give me an alternative ? |
20:16.30 | Thrain | parapà ! |
20:16.43 | benJIman | zorglu1: you could use ogg theora or something if you just want a video |
20:16.47 | imachine | ;] |
20:16.59 | zorglu1 | benJIman: yep but nobody can look at ogg theora ? |
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20:17.16 | zorglu1 | benJIman: me running linux fc4 can't do it |
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20:17.20 | benJIman | zorglu1: they can look at theora without having to install a proprietary player |
20:17.36 | benJIman | imachine: kalarm, kteatime, etc |
20:17.51 | imachine | benJIman, kteatime i know ;] |
20:17.51 | imachine | that one rocks [; |
20:17.56 | zorglu1 | benJIman: obviously i could likely look at ogg if i studied all the codec dependancies, but i didnt |
20:18.09 | imachine | benJIman, i was expecting it in the clock's menu ;] |
20:18.16 | imachine | benJIman, on the taskbar ;] |
20:18.22 | zorglu1 | benJIman: well no :) i mean most users cant look at ogg theory |
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20:18.26 | zorglu1 | theora |
20:18.34 | zorglu1 | let me find the stat |
20:18.53 | benJIman | zorglu1: they can if they install the codecs, which are included in most linux distributions I Think |
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20:19.19 | zorglu1 | http://www.macromedia.com/software/player_census/flashplayer/ |
20:19.38 | zorglu1 | benJIman: they can if they install the codecs <- sure, but nobody does :) |
20:19.54 | benJIman | then they choose not to watch it |
20:20.02 | zorglu1 | :) :) |
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20:20.21 | benJIman | if you make it in flash you force them to install proprietary software to watch it legally |
20:20.39 | zorglu1 | i dont 'force them' |
20:20.46 | zorglu1 | as 98% already did |
20:21.06 | zorglu1 | it is when i provide 'ogg theora' that i force them |
20:21.14 | benJIman | most of whom arn't aware of the implications |
20:21.34 | benJIman | it's even against the EULA to install it on laptops |
20:22.09 | zorglu1 | ok do you realize that here you are promoting politic view ? |
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20:22.21 | zorglu1 | like 'dont install non-free software' ? |
20:22.37 | zorglu1 | ok i have a better question |
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20:23.12 | zorglu1 | what benefit for linux to force people willing to record screencast to do it under window ? |
20:23.48 | benJIman | zorglu1: you can screencast under linux, to any format, why do you choose flash which can only ever have a non-free or illegal player until macromedia change the EULA |
20:24.28 | zorglu1 | i 'choose' flash to get the video seen |
20:24.32 | zorglu1 | as simple as taht |
20:24.39 | zorglu1 | no other format allow that |
20:24.40 | benJIman | the 98% won't change if people like you keep publishing content requiring flash |
20:24.56 | zorglu1 | nope |
20:25.01 | benJIman | any format can be seen if people install the relevant codec/plugin, just like flash, and unlike flash anyone is free to implement them |
20:25.11 | zorglu1 | i plan to provide other format |
20:25.33 | benJIman | that would be the sensible thing |
20:25.50 | zorglu1 | so your proposition is 'let force people to install free codec, by not providing the codec they have already installed' |
20:26.41 | benJIman | no my proposition was don't force people to install proprietary player by only providing it in flash format |
20:27.02 | zorglu1 | great i perfectly agree :) |
20:27.14 | zorglu1 | now how can do a screencast of my linux desktop :) |
20:27.21 | zorglu1 | in flash and ogg theora :) |
20:27.30 | zorglu1 | ogg to promote free codec |
20:27.35 | zorglu1 | and flash for the others |
20:27.43 | zorglu1 | i just want the tool :) |
20:28.00 | benJIman | I would probably record in some video format and then convert with transcode/mencoder or something |
20:28.15 | zorglu1 | btw screencast could be of a great benefit for opensource |
20:28.26 | benJIman | there are various tools , nothing particularly easy to use unfortunately, I tend to use xvidcap |
20:28.35 | benJIman | there was a presentation on this at akadamy |
20:28.54 | zorglu1 | xvidcap can go thru ffmpeg encoder ? |
20:29.52 | benJIman | xvidcap uses ffmpeg I know because it is a pain to build |
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20:30.57 | zorglu1 | great :) i will try to use it :) (ffmpeg allows to encode in flash too) |
20:31.15 | vicks | is there a way to show rss feeds in some kind of sidebar in konqueror (running 3.5.1, dapper)? |
20:31.24 | benJIman | vicks: yes |
20:31.56 | benJIman | vicks: right click the sidebar -> add new -> newsticker |
20:32.33 | benJIman | zorglu1: http://ktown.kde.org/akademy2005/unprocessed/CreateMultimediaDemonstrations-RairEndres-video.ogg <- it might have been that one |
20:33.03 | vicks | benJIman, i don't have that option...bummer |
20:36.00 | zorglu1 | benJIman: thanks downloding it |
20:36.47 | HamishTPB | [20:19:37] <zorglu1> benJIman: they can if they install the codecs <- sure, but nobody does :) <-- By that reasoning everyone will still be on the version of flash they had when their PC was first installed. |
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20:37.11 | benJIman | HamishTPB: lots of people click ok on all the "click ok to install flashplayer" type things |
20:37.54 | HamishTPB | benJIman: yes - indeed. And a well coded website will have a direct link to any plugins / codecs required as well |
20:38.27 | zorglu1 | HamishTPB: well people does the effort to install new version when it provides new features |
20:38.28 | HamishTPB | benJIman: it comes down to lazy authoring and lazy users together to give someone like macromedia a stranglehold |
20:38.39 | zorglu1 | but i understand your point |
20:39.06 | HamishTPB | zorglu1: yes - exactly - so if they really want to see the content of a website and the author has coded it well then the download will be just as easy |
20:39.30 | HamishTPB | zorglu1: but I can't speak for any specific codec - just generalising |
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20:39.59 | parso | hello ! |
20:40.09 | parso | I've a prob with kicker pannel ! |
20:40.23 | parso | There are Help message, and i can't disable them |
20:40.36 | parso | If someone can help me, please |
20:40.55 | HamishTPB | parso: what is the message? |
20:41.10 | parso | No message, but I can't disable it |
20:41.21 | parso | I'm French, sorry but I don't know the world |
20:41.37 | parso | the message when you're on an Icon in kicker pannel |
20:41.52 | HamishTPB | parso: do you mean the "tooltip"? |
20:41.53 | parso | Description of the prog etc |
20:42.04 | parso | It's possible yes ... |
20:42.11 | HamishTPB | parso: I think you just need to log out and back in again |
20:42.25 | HamishTPB | parso: sounds like a graphics glitch |
20:42.30 | parso | I've uncheck the checkbox in properties, but no result |
20:42.43 | parso | no, I've restart so much times |
20:42.46 | HamishTPB | parso: ok |
20:42.51 | parso | and no result either |
20:42.55 | HamishTPB | parso: can you show me a screenshot? |
20:43.14 | HamishTPB | parso: I am afraid mon francais est merde :/ |
20:43.26 | parso | lol ! |
20:43.40 | parso | A screenshot of what ? |
20:43.46 | HamishTPB | what you see on your screen |
20:43.49 | HamishTPB | what the problem is |
20:43.57 | parso | It's not a problem |
20:44.01 | parso | The large hum |
20:44.04 | parso | windows |
20:44.24 | parso | appear when you select an icon in kicker pannel |
20:44.33 | HamishTPB | oh |
20:44.40 | parso | to show what the icon is, description |
20:44.42 | HamishTPB | parso: I think I know what you mean now! |
20:44.42 | HamishTPB | :) |
20:44.50 | parso | Thx lol ! :D |
20:44.55 | HamishTPB | parso: unfortunately your menus will be in French :/ |
20:45.03 | parso | Yes ... |
20:45.11 | HamishTPB | parso: My native language is English |
20:45.13 | parso | but in properties, I've uncheck the case |
20:45.23 | parso | and no results |
20:45.41 | HamishTPB | parso: give me a moment to look at settings and I will try to show you where to click |
20:45.49 | parso | ok, but tell me if you have a solution ... I understand english better than I speak |
20:45.59 | parso | Ok, thx a lot |
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20:47.09 | parso | (I've Kde 3.4.2 HamishTPB ) |
20:47.45 | HamishTPB | parso: ok - just sending a file to my webserver for you to look at - I hope I understand you now :) |
20:47.59 | parso | ok, thx ! :D |
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20:48.27 | parso | But if it's on Kicker's properties, I think I've uncheck the good case ... |
20:48.35 | HamishTPB | parso: http://www.pbmm.net/gfx/screenie.png | I hope that is what you are looking for |
20:49.03 | iamben | when launching kicker 3.5.1 im getting "kicker: tzfile.c:344: __tzfile_read: Assertion `num_types == 1' failed." read somewhere that it was a glibc problem, but i dont know where to start in fixing it |
20:49.15 | iamben | i did recently rebuild glibc, but afaik i didnt change anything |
20:49.16 | parso | Oh, i've uncheck the other |
20:49.22 | HamishTPB | parso: did that work? |
20:49.27 | parso | I try |
20:49.29 | HamishTPB | :) |
20:49.43 | parso | loool ! |
20:49.46 | parso | My godness ! |
20:49.53 | parso | In french it's not the good traduction ! |
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20:50.19 | HamishTPB | parso: did that work? |
20:50.20 | parso | It mean "Disable smooth effet icons" in french, |
20:50.25 | parso | Yes ! thanks a lot ! |
20:50.26 | HamishTPB | parso: ah |
20:50.35 | HamishTPB | parso: Tres bon! :D |
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20:50.50 | parso | lol, thx a lot ! :D |
20:50.57 | HamishTPB | parso: anytime :) |
20:51.23 | parso | (Just a little thinks) |
20:51.41 | parso | Do you know a good website for beautiful png icons ? |
20:51.41 | Smak | Is it normal for a cd to spin down after every track read?/ |
20:53.08 | HamishTPB | parso: I use gentoo and they have a nice collection of icons |
20:53.24 | HamishTPB | parso: is it for your KDE desktop? |
20:53.29 | parso | Yes |
20:53.38 | parso | but alone icons |
20:53.40 | parso | one per one |
20:53.41 | HamishTPB | parso: http://www.kde-look.org/ is good |
20:53.51 | parso | But there isn't a lot of icons... |
20:53.56 | HamishTPB | parso: hmmn |
20:54.22 | HamishTPB | parso: I imagine just google searching will be best then |
20:54.37 | Death_Wish | Ham i got a question i can't extract any tar files to my desktop :( |
20:54.51 | parso | ok, I will search tomorrow, it was just if somone know a better ... |
20:55.03 | HamishTPB | parso: that is the gentoo collection though -- http://www.gentoo.org/dyn/icons.xml |
20:55.41 | parso | Thx ! :D |
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20:56.27 | HamishTPB | Death_Wish: yes - you might want to install "ark" for a nice graphical front-end - and also there are kde addons for konqueror that will let you do a lot of that type of thing from a context menu (right click a file) |
20:56.37 | HamishTPB | parso: pas problem :) |
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20:56.50 | Death_Wish | so emerge konq-plugins? |
20:56.52 | aronofsky | hi guys , was wonderin what are best video player to use on kde, just discovered amarok wich is great and was wondering what were good video players ? |
20:57.22 | HamishTPB | Death_Wish: there are more than that but that is a good start |
20:57.26 | SimAtWork | aronofsky: i'm partial to xine (which isn't kde) |
20:57.32 | Death_Wish | goodie :) |
20:57.34 | SimAtWork | aronofsky: but mplayer is great also |
20:57.39 | HamishTPB | Death_Wish: I install almost everything so I am not sure which bits did what |
20:57.48 | SimAtWork | aronofsky: kaffeine is a kde player that uses the xine engine |
20:57.50 | HamishTPB | aronofsky: Xine or kaffeine here |
20:57.53 | Death_Wish | oh u did kde-meta? |
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20:58.13 | SimAtWork | aronofsky: i've used kaboodle and dislike it, noatunes or something (default in many distros for some reason) I HATE that one. |
20:58.18 | HamishTPB | Death_Wish: almost all of the -meta packages for KDE |
20:58.41 | Death_Wish | damn must of had patience and time |
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20:59.35 | HamishTPB | Death_Wish: and I use the other PCs on my network to distribute compiling ;-) |
20:59.46 | Death_Wish | whatcha mean? |
21:01.04 | HamishTPB | Death_Wish: and I upraded most of it with the kdexdeltas flag so saving a lot of work after the initial install |
21:01.18 | HamishTPB | Death_Wish: using "distcc" - there is how to |
21:01.33 | Death_Wish | i can't use distcc :P |
21:02.05 | HamishTPB | k |
21:02.08 | Death_Wish | im thinking of install XGL :P |
21:02.27 | HamishTPB | Death_Wish: I don't know anything about it |
21:02.35 | Death_Wish | but im afraid the ati-drivers are what made my last install never work |
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21:04.59 | HamishTPB | I am off for now - gonna give my brain a rest - maybe be around later :) |
21:05.12 | Death_Wish | later |
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21:06.04 | Oti1 | hi, I did an upgrade to KDE 3.5.1 and suddenly, my wlan card doesn't seem to connect to the net ... |
21:06.21 | Oti1 | the card is active and visible |
21:06.21 | bauerbob | hi, how can i stop kmail from opening several connections/doing multitasking on my imap mailserver? |
21:06.36 | Oti1 | how can I check what the problem is ? |
21:07.09 | Oti1 | the "default gateway" setting in the Networking panel doesn't show "wlan0" anymore, it stays blank |
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21:09.29 | snoopy | Death_Wish: Hi! /me back, now brain(tm) couldn't help any more... |
21:09.40 | Death_Wish | aww |
21:09.46 | snoopy | *gg* |
21:09.52 | snoopy | no, just jokin |
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21:11.28 | parso | Thx all and bye bye ;) |
21:12.46 | Oti1 | hi, my wlan fails since I upgraded to 3.5.1 ... can someone please help ? |
21:19.19 | kelvie_ | Anyone know how to make Konsole realize I have more fonts than I should? |
21:19.33 | kelvie_ | other KDE/X apps see my other fonts.. but Konsole gives me a limited selection |
21:19.50 | kelvie_ | And not only the font face.. limited sizes too |
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21:23.37 | Tm_T | you mean Konsole shows only usable fonts? ;) |
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21:24.17 | ObsidianX | in the kde meta packages on gentoo which one will provide the ability to see video thumbnails |
21:24.56 | apokryphos | ObsidianX: #gentoo |
21:25.06 | ObsidianX | alright |
21:25.10 | ObsidianX | wasn't sure where to ask |
21:25.31 | ObsidianX | is it a kioslave or a plugin? |
21:26.05 | PhilRod | might be a plugin. I'm not sure how it's implemented |
21:26.15 | aronofsky | can anyone tell me how to save view options in konqueror ? |
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21:26.58 | benJIman | aronofsky: what sort of options ? settings -> save view profile saves a lot |
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21:27.41 | aronofsky | benJIman, i want it to be "detailled list view" by default |
21:27.44 | ObsidianX | bleh, forgot, thats why i didn't go to #gentoo... nobody ever responds |
21:28.39 | benJIman | aronofsky: yeah save view profile is what you want |
21:28.47 | benJIman | aronofsky: save it as filemanagement |
21:29.12 | kelvie_ | Tm_T: how does Konsole define which fonts are useable? |
21:29.30 | benJIman | kelvie_: only monospace fonts |
21:29.42 | aronofsky | benJIman, why as filemamagement ? |
21:29.56 | benJIman | aronofsky: that's the default view profile used for filemanagement |
21:30.08 | benJIman | if you click the home icon on the kicker in default settings the filemanagement profile will be opened |
21:30.20 | benJIman | sorry it's "File Management" |
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21:30.47 | elvaka | hello |
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21:31.08 | aronofsky | benJIman, cant i create my own profile so i wouldn't modify default profile ? |
21:31.18 | benJIman | aronofsky: you can indeed |
21:31.36 | elvaka | how can I run a file as root, without running it from the super user konsole? |
21:31.46 | benJIman | aronofsky: but if you want to make sure that whenever you click links to local filesystem etc the settings are used save it as file management |
21:31.53 | benJIman | elvaka: there's a run as option from the run dialogue |
21:31.58 | benJIman | or you can run "kdesu programname" |
21:32.09 | elvaka | kdesu thanks |
21:32.12 | benJIman | or youc an right click -> open with, kdesu programname |
21:33.16 | kelvie_ | benJIman: where do I go set which fonts are monospace are not? |
21:33.27 | kelvie_ | benJIman: I have way more monospace fonts than what Konsole recognizes |
21:33.39 | benJIman | hmm, perhaps a fontconfig problem |
21:34.23 | kelvie_ | benJIman: maybe the author of the font forgot to configure it as a monospace one? (I'm sure it is; I use it in vim all the time) |
21:34.32 | kelvie_ | is there a way I can go manually change it for particular fonts? |
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21:36.41 | canllaith | does fontconfig recognise it as monospace? |
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21:36.54 | canllaith | (you would edit this in /etc/fonts/fonts.conf (or local.conf, really)) |
21:37.35 | kelvie_ | canllaith: I don't think it does recognize it as monospace |
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21:38.08 | kelvie_ | canllaith: mm.. so I'd probably change ~/.fonts.conf to accomodate for this then? |
21:38.12 | canllaith | Yes |
21:38.36 | kelvie_ | canllaith: mind pointing me to somewhere where I can learn how? :p |
21:39.30 | canllaith | Have a look at your /etc/fonts/fonts.conf for inspiration and then google? :P That is what I would do. |
21:40.52 | kelvie_ | canllaith: heh.. alright; thanks |
21:41.08 | Tm_T | canllaith: yay! |
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21:51.56 | ktos | what do you thing?what is the most unix like linux distribution? |
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21:54.18 | StevenR | ktos: slackware |
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21:57.00 | SimAtWork | ktos: i'd say gentoo |
21:57.42 | ktos | any more than slackware? |
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21:58.44 | pinotree | debian |
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22:01.14 | ktos | ok, thanks |
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22:02.19 | cbr | is there a tetrinet client for qt? |
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22:03.58 | feindbild | moin ^^ |
22:03.58 | SimAtWork | cbr: looks like gtk only |
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22:15.19 | elvaka | when I start the kde desktop, the nautilus is launched too |
22:15.24 | elvaka | why?? |
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22:25.27 | Blissex | elvaka: it might be because of many reasons; for example that in your last session you opened Nautilus. |
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22:26.29 | elvaka | hello again |
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22:27.07 | elvaka | nautilus has started again... |
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22:27.24 | elvaka | and if i kill the kde desktop, i can see the gnome desktop under it |
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22:30.28 | Blissex | elvaka: lets say that it is actually somewhat difficult to start both KDE and GNOME at the same time. |
22:31.15 | elvaka | when i start the kde desktop, nautilus is launched under it |
22:31.27 | elvaka | and if i kill the kde proces, i can see the gnome desktop |
22:31.33 | elvaka | ^^u |
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22:33.25 | dli__ | a kopete question, kopete gives me a place to select fonts for chat text, but if my buddy uses a different encoding from me, this doesn't work |
22:33.36 | illogical | ew |
22:33.36 | Blissex | dli__: #Kopete might be more relevant... |
22:33.40 | Blissex | dli__: in any case, what you describe is exactly what should happen. |
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23:13.13 | storyteller | Hello all |
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23:14.21 | storyteller | I'm currently trying to learn programming by making a gui for archlinux' package manager pacman using kdevelop/qt designer :-D |
23:14.45 | storyteller | The only ones that have been written so far are in gtk or java :( |
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23:15.09 | pfein | any howtos on using maildir with kmail? |
23:15.15 | storyteller | I've wanted to take up programming for some time, and this seems like as good a project to learn on as any |
23:16.02 | Blissex | storyteller: ask in #KDE-devel |
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23:20.12 | iamben | kicker: tzfile.c:344: __tzfile_read: Assertion `num_types == 1' failed. |
23:20.36 | iamben | ^ im getting that error and i've read a few places that its a glibc problem, anyone have any idea where to start for a fix? |
23:21.40 | Blissex | looks like different versions of a code and a file what got created by a previous version. |
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23:24.49 | storyteller | Thank you blissex, but I don't have questions yet lol....I'm sure they'll come soon enough though lol |
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23:30.14 | DarkJesus | yo |
23:30.48 | DarkJesus | I said yo! |
23:31.28 | gemidjy | Kay my /dev/hdc drive opens as system:/media/hdc, and it should open as media:/hdc/ ... any chances to change that? |
23:35.42 | gemidjy | anyone |
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23:36.52 | Blissex | gemidjy: depends on which automounter you got which KDE mounting applet you use. |
23:37.05 | pfein | any howtos on using maildir with kmail? |
23:38.40 | gemidjy | Blissex: I use Kanotix, hal |
23:38.42 | gemidjy | udev |
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23:47.41 | somekool | anyone wrote script actions for quanta ? how do you pass parameters ? |
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23:48.53 | X2 | hi, guys |
23:49.13 | Blissex | gemidjy: don't know much about that sorry. |
23:49.34 | gemidjy | u use hotplug? |
23:49.46 | X2 | the mouse pointer mover the focus to another point while I'm typing. how do I get rid of it ? |
23:49.49 | Blissex | gemidjy: problem is IIRC 'system:' indeed means 'udev', and 'media' is probably related to the KDE built in mount manager. |
23:50.07 | Blissex | gemidjy: I have disabled 'udev'/'hotplug' because they are too dodgy. |
23:51.04 | gemidjy | Blissex: then how do u get modules loaded? |
23:51.09 | gemidjy | by own scripts? |
23:51.32 | Blissex | gemidjy: statically at boot, own scripts. |
23:51.36 | gemidjy | ahm |
23:51.52 | gemidjy | I suppose that is way too faster way |
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