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| 00:07.14 | bhrich902arch | is possible to use kaffeine's browser plugins on firefox? |
| 00:07.20 | Renze | no |
| 00:07.29 | bhrich902arch | damit |
| 00:07.29 | acid-trip | Renze, |
| 00:07.34 | Renze | they are not netscape plugins, but kparts |
| 00:07.41 | acid-trip | i have kde 3.5 compiled and installed |
| 00:07.54 | acid-trip | now do i have to move it all to like a .kdetest dir? |
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| 00:07.56 | bhrich902arch | but they work so much better for me than mplayer's :) |
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| 00:08.05 | verve | where exactly in ~/.kde/ do i put deco themes? |
| 00:08.26 | Renze | acid-trip: konstruct, I presume? you make changes to the config before you start. I guess you missed that step, huh? |
| 00:08.38 | acid-trip | uhm |
| 00:08.39 | acid-trip | yeah |
| 00:08.40 | acid-trip | :| |
| 00:08.43 | Renze | bhrich902arch: so use konqueror instead of firefox :P |
| 00:08.57 | bhrich902arch | i do, i was just curious |
| 00:09.11 | Renze | verve: you compile them |
| 00:09.25 | verve | .. |
| 00:09.30 | verve | whowhatnow? |
| 00:09.52 | acid-trip | Renze, what config am i looking for? |
| 00:09.58 | bhrich902arch | after all this time i always used kmplayer for my videos and mplayer plugins, then i thought id give kaffeine a try and just love it |
| 00:10.00 | Renze | verve: unless there is a package for your distro, you have to compile windecos (dekorator themes are different however) |
| 00:10.09 | verve | er, yeah, that's what i meant |
| 00:10.12 | verve | dekorator theme |
| 00:10.14 | verve | my bad, sorry |
| 00:10.18 | Renze | acid-trip: I haven't used konstruct in half an age... I can't remember :) |
| 00:10.47 | verve | got a couple from kdelook.org |
| 00:10.51 | verve | can't figure out where to stick 'em |
| 00:10.55 | verve | been trawling through ~/.kde |
| 00:10.56 | verve | heh |
| 00:11.23 | acid-trip | Renze, can i just mv kde3.5.2 .kdetest? |
| 00:11.25 | Renze | verve: .kde/share/apps/dekorator/themes/ I think... not sure, I don't like dekorator or any of it's themes |
| 00:11.45 | Renze | acid-trip: you could, but it probably wouldn't work any more |
| 00:11.51 | Renze | acid-trip: try it and see |
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| 00:12.36 | verve | hm |
| 00:12.41 | verve | i have no dekorator directory |
| 00:12.46 | Renze | make one |
| 00:12.49 | verve | is it a separate app or something? |
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| 00:12.53 | verve | ok! heh |
| 00:12.53 | acid-trip | mkdir dekorator |
| 00:12.59 | Renze | dekorator is a separate windeco |
| 00:13.16 | Renze | if you don't have the dekorator engine, dekorator themes will not work |
| 00:13.20 | Kyral | Anyone familier with DCOP and Ruby? |
| 00:13.22 | verve | ahh |
| 00:13.27 | verve | i don't believe i do |
| 00:13.37 | Renze | verve: then you'd better install that first |
| 00:13.41 | verve | hm |
| 00:13.45 | verve | doesn't seem to be in the ports tree |
| 00:14.01 | Renze | freebsd, I presume |
| 00:14.06 | verve | indeed |
| 00:14.53 | verve | no big deal |
| 00:15.00 | acid-trip | Renze, is i have x running already |
| 00:15.00 | verve | didn't realise dekorator was a separate thing |
| 00:15.01 | verve | hm |
| 00:15.20 | Renze | acid-trip: ? |
| 00:15.20 | acid-trip | could i ctrl+alt f2 or so and startkde on a different ttys |
| 00:15.51 | Renze | acid-trip: DISPLAY=":0" startkde <-- that might work, but I'm not sure |
| 00:16.11 | Renze | I assume you've already altered PATH and LD_LIBRARY_PATH and such? |
| 00:16.19 | acid-trip | rob@localhost bin]$ DISPLAY=":0" startkde |
| 00:16.19 | acid-trip | KDE seems to be already running on this display. |
| 00:16.23 | acid-trip | ya |
| 00:17.29 | Renze | sorry, never messed with any of that fiddly stuff... never had to :) |
| 00:17.45 | acid-trip | yeah well there's no rpm for kde 3.5 |
| 00:17.45 | acid-trip | lol |
| 00:20.03 | Renze | acid-trip: waaaaay back when I used konstruct, I used it as root and setup konstruct to install to /usr/kde |
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| 00:20.54 | Renze | it was all documented... try reading the konstruct docs |
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| 00:26.43 | icwiener | Hi, short question. Is it Settings -> Hide Menubar in Konqueror (3.5.3) at your System? |
| 00:27.05 | Renze | yes |
| 00:27.10 | icwiener | In my case it's switched with "Show Menubar" |
| 00:27.38 | icwiener | "Show" is in menubar and "Hide" in context menu. :( |
| 00:27.50 | Renze | I usually just use ctrl-m rather than the menu item |
| 00:28.08 | icwiener | Me too, but I was just courious about it. |
| 00:28.40 | icwiener | Maybe a debian patch. ;) |
| 00:28.54 | Renze | or a debian breakage :) |
| 00:29.12 | icwiener | Or a gentoo fixage. ;) |
| 00:29.31 | Renze | gentoo doesn't change KDE... it only includes patches from the KDE tree |
| 00:29.57 | icwiener | But who changed mine then? |
| 00:30.04 | Renze | no idea |
| 00:30.23 | icwiener | I don't know how much debian fixes, but it would surprise me if they did it... |
| 00:30.44 | icwiener | /fixes/patches |
| 00:31.09 | Renze | they're also ~2 years behind in stable :) |
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| 00:31.33 | icwiener | It's the unstable tree, I use. |
| 00:31.45 | icwiener | So it's 3.5.3. |
| 00:34.52 | Renze | I don't see any patches for konqueror menu fixes in my portage tree |
| 00:37.41 | icwiener | Ok, thanks for checking. I'm setting up another box right now to check 3.5.3 from svn to be sure. Then I set up the box with a denianKDE without my configs... and then I decide what to do next. ;) |
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| 00:42.28 | Wesley | curious |
| 00:42.52 | Wesley | my screensaver wont ever start |
| 00:43.09 | Wesley | version 3.5.3 |
| 00:43.31 | Renze | works fine in 3.5.3 here |
| 00:43.33 | Wesley | any known reasons why this happens or should i just switch to xscreensaver |
| 00:44.21 | icwiener | Works fine here in 3.5.3, too |
| 00:44.52 | Wesley | hrmm |
| 00:44.56 | Wesley | what distros you in? |
| 00:44.59 | Renze | gentoo |
| 00:45.04 | icwiener | Debian |
| 00:45.14 | Wesley | well im in slackware |
| 00:45.23 | Wesley | i used xscreensaver in gentoo |
| 00:45.34 | Wesley | but since i decided to use kde's again |
| 00:46.13 | Kyral | MEH! |
| 00:46.16 | Renze | KDE will happily use xscreensaver's modules if it knows about them |
| 00:46.54 | Wesley | lock session works fine |
| 00:47.01 | Kyral | if anyone knows about using the Korundum plz msg me...I'm about to smack this |
| 00:47.27 | Wesley | korundum is very hard |
| 00:47.28 | Wesley | hehe |
| 00:47.39 | frb-work | sounds puzzling |
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| 00:47.44 | Wesley | hardness of nine isnt it? |
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| 00:48.58 | frb-work | jeez, whwnever I use Firefox, I realize how ungodly horrible the file dialog is |
| 00:49.07 | frb-work | my god, it's worse than windows 3.1 |
| 00:49.16 | Wesley | file dialog? |
| 00:49.24 | Renze | frb-work: don't use firefox :) |
| 00:49.25 | frb-work | Save As |
| 00:49.25 | Wesley | you mean when you're ftping? |
| 00:49.28 | Wesley | oh |
| 00:49.35 | Wesley | i always use konqueror for ftp |
| 00:49.38 | Wesley | its great |
| 00:49.39 | frb-work | Renze: gmail works better |
| 00:49.55 | Renze | frb-work: I use kmail for my gmail :) |
| 00:50.05 | frb-work | I hate pop |
| 00:50.15 | Wesley | me three |
| 00:50.26 | Wesley | two* |
| 00:50.34 | frb-work | if they let me do imap, I'd be happy |
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| 00:50.40 | Wesley | sorry guys i cant stop the puns :D |
| 00:51.03 | frb-work | I'm immune to puns |
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| 01:00.06 | countzero | HOLA A TODOS |
| 01:01.03 | Renze | hable en inglés, por favor |
| 01:01.18 | countzero | HOLA RENZE |
| 01:01.48 | Renze | and please stop shouting |
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| 01:07.56 | nixternal | where can i get some quick kpilot support? |
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| 01:17.41 | Krrish | HI...n Kde 3.5.1 fedora how to make window backgrounds trnsluceunt like the panel and menus?????? |
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| 01:20.04 | Renze | use composite (or xgl) on a compatible video card |
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| 01:40.38 | Asusanator | The panels and menus don't need xgl Renze tsk tsk |
| 01:40.43 | Asusanator | ;) |
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| 01:40.52 | Renze | that's fake transparency |
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| 02:02.38 | cookiecaper | Hi, I'm trying to compile a KDE program without a configure script ... qmake doesn't work because it doesn't find any of the KDE files. How do I do this? |
| 02:02.44 | cookiecaper | It's kuickshow, by the way. |
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| 02:06.16 | joeb | hey i just installed mandrake with kde and i already have trouble with Konsole |
| 02:07.03 | joeb | how do u type a command after you enter in the man whatever |
| 02:08.36 | Renze | joeb: press q to get out of the man reader |
| 02:08.44 | joeb | ok thanks |
| 02:08.51 | joeb | and another question |
| 02:08.53 | Renze | that's like linux 101 |
| 02:09.16 | joeb | yea its my first time |
| 02:09.20 | joeb | using linux |
| 02:09.24 | Renze | and also nothing to do with kde :) |
| 02:09.56 | joeb | if you burn a cd in linux will it work in other os other than linux |
| 02:10.13 | Renze | yes, they all use the same filesystem (iso9660) |
| 02:10.27 | Renze | also nothing to do with kde :) |
| 02:10.28 | joeb | lol |
| 02:10.53 | Q-collective | welcome to #kde :-) |
| 02:11.53 | joeb | im already starting to think linux is better than windows |
| 02:12.13 | joeb | but i cant get on the internet |
| 02:12.22 | joeb | with my stupid wireless adapter |
| 02:13.12 | Q-collective | welcome to irc, part of the internet |
| 02:13.15 | cookiecaper | joeb, try the channel for your distribution |
| 02:13.15 | Q-collective | (: |
| 02:13.26 | Renze | ndiswrapper will allow you to use your windows driver for your wireless adaptor |
| 02:13.45 | Renze | Homepage: http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/ |
| 02:13.45 | Renze | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:13.46 | joeb | how do i get that |
| 02:13.51 | cookiecaper | joeb, try the channel for your distribution |
| 02:13.57 | Renze | your distro might have a package for it |
| 02:14.29 | Renze | joeb: we are very likely not using the same linux distribution that you are |
| 02:15.24 | joeb | ok |
| 02:15.44 | Renze | which distro are you using, by the way? |
| 02:16.48 | joeb | mandraker |
| 02:16.50 | joeb | 10.0 |
| 02:18.21 | illogic-al | wow |
| 02:18.23 | illogic-al | old |
| 02:18.26 | illogic-al | :-) |
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| 02:19.35 | illogic-al | joeb: might I suggest a new(er) distribution |
| 02:21.01 | Q-collective | illogic-al: what version are they at these days? |
| 02:21.31 | illogic-al | Q-collective: none. they rename themselves mandriva and started numbering by years :-) |
| 02:21.46 | Q-collective | oh, right |
| 02:22.04 | Q-collective | silly distro |
| 02:22.19 | Q-collective | always on the top of the bleeding edge |
| 02:22.20 | Q-collective | :-) |
| 02:23.01 | illogic-al | Q-collective: but that not really something special to gentoo now is it? |
| 02:23.04 | Renze | in canada it's called "archlinux, eh?" |
| 02:23.05 | Q-collective | Renze: logged out of your session already? |
| 02:23.06 | Q-collective | :p |
| 02:23.13 | Renze | Q-collective: nope :) |
| 02:23.23 | qupada | hey Renze. has the foul weather hit wellington yet? |
| 02:23.25 | Q-collective | illogic-al: in comparison to mandriva? it sure is :p |
| 02:23.45 | Renze | qupada: we had a lot of rain yesterday, and the sky is looking like there is more to come |
| 02:23.53 | illogic-al | Q-collective: nope, sorry. mandriva has a bleeding edge branch too. |
| 02:24.00 | Renze | I'm still hoping for snow :) |
| 02:24.08 | Q-collective | illogic-al: oh, they have? |
| 02:24.18 | illogic-al | yup. cooker. |
| 02:24.27 | Q-collective | illogic-al: then what is the point of the versions? |
| 02:24.27 | illogic-al | unless they renamed that too. |
| 02:24.28 | Q-collective | :> |
| 02:24.34 | qupada | Renze: i got out of dunedin just in time i think. got nearly 2 weeks here in tauranga. much much warmer |
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| 02:24.40 | illogic-al | Q-collective: stable releases |
| 02:24.56 | Renze | qupada: I take it you don't like snow? :) |
| 02:25.00 | Q-collective | weirdness |
| 02:25.12 | Q-collective | :) |
| 02:25.14 | Renze | I see snow so rarely I rather like it :) |
| 02:25.41 | Q-collective | hehe |
| 02:25.41 | qupada | Renze: i left my flat in dunedin at 5:30am yesterday when the airport shuttle arrived with 5 layers of clothing, a scarf and a woolen hat and i was still feeling the cold |
| 02:25.59 | Renze | qupada: yeah, I've been wearing three layers indoors and still shivering here :) |
| 02:26.12 | Renze | bloody old house with no insulation :( |
| 02:26.36 | illogic-al | Q-collective: so you were just praising gentoo's bleeding edgedness in a blatant show of fanboi-ism then. |
| 02:26.47 | smileaf | Renze: sounds like a horror film set. |
| 02:26.55 | smileaf | Renze: "bloody" :P |
| 02:27.08 | Renze | smileaf: that's kiwi slang :) |
| 02:27.17 | Renze | Q-collective is a ricer? :D |
| 02:27.26 | smileaf | ah. I like kiwi.. good fruit. |
| 02:27.47 | Renze | no, that's kiwifruit... kiwi are flightless birds :P |
| 02:27.59 | Q-collective | illogic-al: not really fanboy-ism, I just hardly like to "upgrade" a distro by reinstalling it |
| 02:28.13 | Q-collective | ?? ricers |
| 02:28.14 | DDB | q-collective: ricers: An undesireble outcast within any sourcebased distro, but Gentoo seems to be the heaven of these outcasts. They compile their system with --zomg-wtf-bbq optimisations, brag about them and whine if things get broken, see: funroll-loops.org |
| 02:28.16 | qupada | heh, it's ironic, especially since i grew up not 50km from pretty much kiwifruit central, but i really can't stand the things |
| 02:28.17 | Q-collective | Renze: nah |
| 02:28.18 | Q-collective | :) |
| 02:28.32 | illogic-al | Q-collective: a) you don't have to with mandriva b) what's that got to do with "bleeding edge" |
| 02:28.35 | Renze | zomg wtf :D |
| 02:28.51 | qupada | or don't see funroll-loops.org, because it was written by someone who has obviously never used gentoo and has no idea how it works |
| 02:28.53 | smileaf | bbq! |
| 02:28.54 | Q-collective | illogic-al: try to get mandrake 10.0 bleeding edge? |
| 02:29.07 | mobtek | hmm how do you change the default unlock screensaver dialog in kdm? |
| 02:29.18 | Renze | they set us up the bomb! |
| 02:29.27 | illogic-al | Q-collective: mandrake 10.0 is a release. just like gentoo 2006.whatever is a release. |
| 02:29.50 | illogic-al | there exist ftp trees with updated packages where you upgrade. just like gentoo. |
| 02:29.52 | Q-collective | illogic-al: yes, can you upgrade it to the bleeding edge, using cooker? |
| 02:29.58 | illogic-al | only ius doesn't take 10 years... |
| 02:30.06 | illogic-al | s/ius/it |
| 02:30.07 | Renze | no, gentoo 2006.whatever is a profile, and doesn't require a reinstall - just a symlink change |
| 02:30.33 | illogic-al | Renze: and it is also a release, is it not? |
| 02:30.38 | Q-collective | no |
| 02:30.40 | Renze | only of the livecd |
| 02:30.45 | Q-collective | yup |
| 02:30.48 | Renze | not of the distro |
| 02:31.24 | illogic-al | well if you must get technical then we can go back to before that. when mdk 10.0 was release, when gentoo was still doing releases. |
| 02:31.30 | illogic-al | and make the same argument. |
| 02:31.42 | Q-collective | you could just take a gentoo 1.4 (2003) livecd and install a bleeding edge gentoo system with it |
| 02:31.45 | Renze | and it doesn't matter which livecd you use to install. I installed with 2004.1, and my profile is 2006.0 |
| 02:31.49 | joeb | how is gnome and kde different |
| 02:31.50 | Q-collective | can you do that with mandrake 10.0? |
| 02:32.09 | smileaf | joeb: one starts with a G the other starts with a K |
| 02:32.09 | illogic-al | joeb: gnome is worse and kde is better :-) |
| 02:32.24 | Renze | not that we're biased or anything :) |
| 02:32.24 | joeb | hehe |
| 02:32.31 | Renze | *cough* |
| 02:32.34 | Q-collective | joeb: design philosophy: gnome likes to put every feature of importance in a voodoo program called gconf, kde does not |
| 02:32.35 | Q-collective | :) |
| 02:32.37 | smileaf | kde > * :) |
| 02:32.39 | illogic-al | Q-collective: yes. with a little app caled urpmi. |
| 02:33.00 | illogic-al | joeb: since this is a KDE channel you unlikely to get an unbiased answer |
| 02:33.04 | smileaf | urpmi is awesome |
| 02:33.19 | illogic-al | joeb: really the best thing to do is to try them both and choose. |
| 02:33.43 | illogic-al | smileaf: indeed. but wasn't enough to keep me w/ mandriva |
| 02:34.10 | illogic-al | pacman, arch's package manager is a quite capable beast. and the distro itself is bloody fast. |
| 02:34.18 | joeb | what would you say is the best linux distro |
| 02:34.20 | illogic-al | unlike the ricer distro :-p |
| 02:34.25 | Renze | illogic-al: does it make that funny wakka wakka sound? :D |
| 02:34.30 | illogic-al | joeb: the one you like |
| 02:34.42 | illogic-al | Renze: sadly no. |
| 02:35.02 | illogic-al | joeb: the only real way to find that out is use them and decide for yourself. |
| 02:35.14 | joeb | ok |
| 02:35.25 | Renze | joeb: everybody likes whatever distro they like... 'tis the way of linux |
| 02:35.37 | illogic-al | for instance the ricers gentoo users in the channel would tell you that gentoo is. |
| 02:36.09 | illogic-al | but then the debian elitists uses would jump up and say no, debian is. |
| 02:36.32 | icwiener | ;) |
| 02:36.33 | illogic-al | but then the ubuntu groupies users would chime in saying it is the one true light |
| 02:37.08 | illogic-al | at which point the all wise and knowledgeable illogic-al I would say, no use archlinux |
| 02:37.13 | Renze | linux is the one true light |
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| 02:37.26 | illogic-al | at least we can all agree on that :-) |
| 02:37.49 | icwiener | until debian/kfreebsd :P |
| 02:37.56 | hydrogen | Debian/hurd |
| 02:37.59 | illogic-al | lol |
| 02:38.02 | icwiener | *hust* |
| 02:38.14 | illogic-al | Hurd is the one true light. |
| 02:38.25 | Renze | does hurd work yet? :D |
| 02:38.33 | illogic-al | pardon me, GNU/Hurd |
| 02:38.38 | Q-collective | Gentoo/Hurd <3 |
| 02:38.42 | Q-collective | :D |
| 02:38.42 | icwiener | sb told me that hurd must be coming soon... because phpbb3 is makeing big steps to release too. :D |
| 02:38.51 | illogic-al | lol |
| 02:39.08 | Renze | icwiener: about the same time as Duke Nukem Forever? :D |
| 02:39.16 | Q-collective | and debian 4 |
| 02:39.21 | illogic-al | I predict GNU/Hurd and Duke Nukem Forver will be release at around the same time. |
| 02:39.22 | icwiener | and worldwide ipv6 :) |
| 02:39.32 | illogic-al | The fifth of neverember |
| 02:39.34 | qupada | can we shorten GNU/Hurd to Gnnurd or something? :P |
| 02:39.42 | illogic-al | qupada: lol |
| 02:39.43 | Kyral | Its just Hurd |
| 02:39.49 | Kyral | I run it on a testbox |
| 02:39.49 | Renze | nerd |
| 02:39.49 | hydrogen | Knurd |
| 02:39.52 | hydrogen | never gnurd! |
| 02:39.56 | hydrogen | don't support the enemy |
| 02:40.05 | illogic-al | gnnurd is somehow fitting |
| 02:40.06 | Kyral | The Enemy? |
| 02:40.15 | Kyral | Dude...I'm a member of the FSF ;P |
| 02:40.19 | Renze | those #gnome people |
| 02:40.20 | Q-collective | GNU actually suffices, they made it GNU/Hurd to not confuse it with GNU/Linux |
| 02:40.21 | Q-collective | :> |
| 02:40.28 | illogic-al | Kyral: anyone without a K in their name |
| 02:40.39 | Kydrogen | phew |
| 02:40.40 | Kydrogen | i'm safe |
| 02:40.42 | Kyral | ...look at my nick |
| 02:40.43 | Kyral | idiot |
| 02:40.46 | illogic-al | LOL |
| 02:40.51 | Renze | kernel has a k in the name, so all is well |
| 02:40.56 | Kyral | Guess what |
| 02:40.59 | Kydrogen | Kyral: is a spy i'm fairly sure |
| 02:41.03 | Kyral | Mach is a microKernel ;P |
| 02:41.09 | Kydrogen | his real nick is Gyral |
| 02:41.15 | Kyral | and Hurd runs on Mach |
| 02:41.19 | illogik-al | whois confirms it. |
| 02:41.29 | Kyral | By OO design |
| 02:41.29 | Q-collective | Kyral: thought they kicked mach? |
| 02:41.38 | Kyral | Q-collective: Its still running on mine |
| 02:41.43 | Q-collective | :) |
| 02:41.46 | Kyral | the L4 is still in the spec stage |
| 02:42.05 | Q-collective | thought that L4 was abandoned aswell |
| 02:42.06 | illogik-al | joeb: so yeah, www.archlinux.org :-D |
| 02:42.11 | Q-collective | forgot what they used now |
| 02:42.13 | Q-collective | :> |
| 02:42.22 | Kyral | Its still Mach |
| 02:42.27 | illogik-al | Q-collective: there is no K in your name |
| 02:42.36 | illogik-al | ARE YOU THE ENEMY?! |
| 02:42.39 | Kyral | ... |
| 02:42.42 | Q-collective | illogik-al: phonetically, there is |
| 02:42.44 | Q-collective | fool |
| 02:42.44 | Kyral | you guys are drunk |
| 02:42.51 | Kyral | Also KDE uses Qt |
| 02:42.58 | Kyral | and Q-collective has a Q in his name |
| 02:43.02 | illogik-al | Q-collective: c'mon. you know you want to. :-) |
| 02:43.02 | Kyral | So he is safe :P |
| 02:43.07 | Renze | I don't have any hard c sounds in my name :( |
| 02:43.08 | Qt-collective | happy now? |
| 02:43.13 | Qt-collective | wait |
| 02:43.19 | Qt-kollektive | now I'm l33t |
| 02:43.20 | illogik-al | woot! |
| 02:43.37 | qupada | ok cool, that saves me having to think of some way to put a k in qupada |
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| 02:43.56 | illogik-al | qtpada kuteepada? |
| 02:44.07 | Qt-kollektive | kupada? |
| 02:44.17 | illogik-al | ooh. kupada |
| 02:44.19 | GullyFoyle | is there an option to enable desktop wheeling in kde? |
| 02:44.41 | illogik-al | GullyFoyle: yes, but we'll only tell if you put a K in your name. |
| 02:44.47 | Qt-kollektive | haha |
| 02:44.49 | qupada | GullyFoyle: like the virtual desktop changing when you put the mouse over the desktop and roll the scroll wheel? |
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| 02:44.58 | GullyFoyle | yup |
| 02:45.15 | Renze | GullyFoyle: yes... in the Multiple Desktops panel in Configure Desktop |
| 02:45.22 | Renze | right down the bottom |
| 02:45.24 | illogik-al | I say we get everyone in the chan to stick a k somewhere in their name :-) |
| 02:45.47 | GullyFoykle | thanKs |
| 02:45.53 | illogik-al | :-( |
| 02:45.57 | Renze | you're welKome |
| 02:47.00 | GullyFoykle | ah, ok that did it |
| 02:47.22 | Kydrogen | hrm |
| 02:47.35 | GullyFoykle | i usually run fluxbox with kde support, i'm used to scrolling thru desktops |
| 02:47.47 | Kydrogen | i'd show my overwelming support for kde by changing my name all to K's, but I think i'd get banned |
| 02:47.49 | Q-collective | Gee, what a lot of K's inhere, you would almost thinK that there would be some zealots inhere |
| 02:47.52 | Kydrogen | from many channels |
| 02:47.59 | Q-collective | GullyFoykle: it's fluKsboKs! |
| 02:48.01 | Q-collective | :-) |
| 02:48.05 | GullyFoykle | har |
| 02:48.22 | GullyFoykle | *kackle* |
| 02:49.20 | Q-collective | oh noes! |
| 02:49.39 | Renze | he's gonna blow! |
| 02:50.55 | Q-collective | *ullyFoyKle: just a little rule: the letter F+1 cannot be pronounced inhere, because we're all nerds with a character flaw against the letter H-1 |
| 02:51.38 | Q-collective | were sourcerers where prohibited to prounend 7+1 |
| 02:51.40 | Q-collective | :-) |
| 02:51.45 | Q-collective | pronounce* |
| 02:53.15 | Q-collective | KullyFoyle: Kreat! |
| 02:53.34 | Shirakawasuna | *zeal asplode*! |
| 02:53.37 | KullyFoyle | Kicka** |
| 02:53.48 | Q-collective | Kickagg? |
| 02:53.50 | Q-collective | oh |
| 02:53.51 | Q-collective | fuck |
| 02:53.57 | illogik-al | get 'im! |
| 02:55.03 | Q-collective | wasn't my fault :> |
| 02:55.53 | icwiener | always happens to me when my cat jumps over the kbd :D |
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| 02:57.03 | KullyFoyle | kan we just kall it by its unicode U+0047? |
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| 02:57.15 | Q-collective | it's a bit long |
| 02:57.17 | Q-collective | but oK |
| 02:58.09 | Q-collective | KullyFoyle: we Kan also Kall it "the letter that shall not be named" |
| 02:58.22 | KullyFoyle | how about 71 the decimal equivalent? |
| 02:59.48 | Q-collective | burn matboy! |
| 02:59.57 | Q-collective | too bad he left |
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| 03:00.50 | KullyFoyle | Morse code: --. |
| 03:01.11 | Q-collective | "Interview with IE Lead Program Manager" |
| 03:01.30 | Q-collective | read: "public excuse of IE Lead Program Manager" |
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| 03:03.56 | blank | hey guys |
| 03:04.03 | blanky | hey guys |
| 03:04.12 | blanky | does k3b burn mdf/mds files? |
| 03:04.35 | KullyFoyle | the channel mode says no colors allowed. is this a gang meeting or something? |
| 03:04.44 | Renze | what are mdf/mds files? |
| 03:04.44 | qupada | blanky: i use mdf2iso |
| 03:05.06 | icwiener | Renze: Alcohol 120% images |
| 03:05.15 | icwiener | Renze: Windows program. |
| 03:05.27 | Renze | what's windows? :) |
| 03:05.40 | icwiener | Renze: look out some time. ;) |
| 03:05.46 | Q-collective | an obscure operating system |
| 03:06.04 | Renze | oh yeah... I remember trying that out back in 1998 |
| 03:06.11 | Renze | didn't like it |
| 03:06.19 | Q-collective | respect :) |
| 03:06.32 | icwiener | somewhen there was an operating system... not like the modern ones... :) |
| 03:08.12 | Q-collective | there is only one image format |
| 03:08.16 | Q-collective | iso >* |
| 03:08.41 | Q-collective | maybe tar.bz2'ed |
| 03:08.43 | Q-collective | but that's it |
| 03:08.44 | Q-collective | :P |
| 03:09.12 | icwiener | Yeah, all the others are iso too with a bit crappy bytes at the beginning. |
| 03:09.43 | qupada | iso.gz :D |
| 03:09.43 | Q-collective | yeah |
| 03:09.47 | KullyFoyle | someone should rewrite the channel topik in Yoda-ese just forchukkles |
| 03:10.20 | Renze | no, jarjar-ese :) |
| 03:10.21 | Q-collective | KullyFoyle: that would wise not be |
| 03:10.29 | Renze | meesa don' tink so |
| 03:11.47 | Q-collective | !holywar |
| 03:11.53 | Q-collective | .test |
| 03:11.54 | DDB | q-collective: yoo q-collective, freenode |
| 03:11.56 | Q-collective | ah |
| 03:11.59 | Q-collective | .holywar |
| 03:11.59 | DDB | q-collective: [1244:0] Supporting Windows is like buying a puppy. The dog only cost $100, but we spent another $500 cleaning the carpet. |
| 03:12.09 | Q-collective | :) |
| 03:14.06 | Renze | why do they call it windows? because it's like opening your windows out on the bayou at night without a bug zapper |
| 03:14.17 | Q-collective | [1238:2] If Java had proper garbage collection, most programs would self-delete upon execution. |
| 03:14.18 | Q-collective | hah |
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| 03:20.48 | Q-collective | [2351:0] There are two major products that come out of Berkeley: LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence |
| 03:20.50 | Q-collective | :) |
| 03:21.23 | Renze | and LSD and BSD are so similar :) |
| 03:21.40 | Q-collective | oh yeah |
| 03:21.41 | Q-collective | :p |
| 03:21.58 | Q-collective | [1272:8] Saying that Java is nice because it works on all OS's is like saying that anal sex is nice because it works on all genders |
| 03:21.58 | Renze | FreeLSD |
| 03:21.59 | Q-collective | ^_^ |
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| 03:23.27 | Renze | º_º |
| 03:23.58 | illogical | nifty |
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| 03:30.20 | bleaked | ok, could someone please explain why when i'm browsing files, and i click the up directory, about 60% of the time it switches teh file view from tree or detailed, to large ugly icons? |
| 03:30.35 | bleaked | this is rather frustrating and i cannot figure out why this behavior is occuring. |
| 03:31.12 | Renze | bleaked: do you have Settings -> Save View Changes Per Folder ticked? |
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| 03:34.05 | bleaked | Renze: i don't have that option in my settings menu. |
| 03:34.19 | bleaked | or do you mean konq settings.. |
| 03:34.33 | Renze | yes, I mean in the konqueror window |
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| 03:35.05 | icwiener | where does the night start right now? |
| 03:35.10 | icwiener | Here it just ends. :) |
| 03:35.40 | Renze | icwiener: somewhere in the eastern Pacific ocean |
| 03:35.58 | bleaked | Renze: i don't see it in the konq settings, nor the settings menu. |
| 03:36.12 | Renze | bleaked: what version of KDE, and what distro? |
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| 03:37.13 | bleaked | 3.5.2 kubuntu -- i've noticed kubuntu moves certain things around.. coming from debian it was weird not to have a 'window' menu in konq. (it's missing in kubuntu) |
| 03:37.33 | Renze | kubuntu... no wonder... they make major changes to the menu structure |
| 03:37.48 | bleaked | yea, it's frustrating. |
| 03:37.52 | Renze | can't help, sorry. I don't use kubuntu |
| 03:38.39 | Renze | but I will bet the icon problem you're experiencing is because of one of their changes |
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| 04:00.18 | EvilMan | hey people, i only have kde-libs install, can i change the font in kde? |
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| 04:03.15 | hobophobe | In Kcontrol, sound, system notifications, player settings, it lets you specify an external player. Is there a way to also pass options to that player ? |
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| 04:08.32 | illogic-al | hobophobe: not that I know of |
| 04:08.54 | illogic-al | hobophobe: maybe if you ran a script with the options you wanted to pass... |
| 04:09.50 | hobophobe | and the script would have something like '/path/to/external-player -options &1' to specify the &1 being the file knotify wants to play? |
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| 04:17.21 | hobophobe | there we go |
| 04:17.31 | hobophobe | 'play --volume=.3 $1' :o) |
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| 04:18.41 | illogic-al | hobophobe: nice :-) |
| 04:19.43 | Kadran | hi all, does any one knows a program that takes a snapshoot like every 2 sec automatically? |
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| 04:33.17 | illogic-al | Kadran: shell script. |
| 04:34.18 | Kadran | illogic-al: thanks alot, :) |
| 04:34.45 | illogic-al | It's what I do :-) |
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| 04:40.56 | hobophobe | illogic-al, you need a shell script that has you say "shell script" every time someone ask something ;o) |
| 04:41.07 | illogic-al | lol |
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| 04:59.02 | Renze | shell scripts are teh shiznit :) |
| 04:59.16 | illogic-al | the shiznat |
| 04:59.25 | Renze | that too |
| 05:00.01 | illogic-al | I really%b need to finish reading a paper and coming up with some potential binding targets for my protein. |
| 05:00.16 | illogic-al | but i suck. |
| 05:00.20 | Renze | qupada: black ice in dunedin... aren't you glad you're not there? :) |
| 05:00.42 | qupada | Renze: too right |
| 05:01.13 | illogic-al | Renze: sounds scottish |
| 05:01.18 | illogic-al | where is that? |
| 05:01.21 | qupada | Renze: i live on the same section of hill, about 0.5km south of baldwind street |
| 05:01.21 | Renze | och, aye! |
| 05:01.32 | Renze | illogic-al: south island of new zealand |
| 05:01.35 | qupada | illogic-al: new zealand. and dunedin was settled by people from edinburgh |
| 05:01.49 | illogic-al | ah |
| 05:02.05 | qupada | read all about it on wikipedia :D |
| 05:02.38 | Renze | home of crappy student accomodation :D |
| 05:02.52 | qupada | yep |
| 05:03.10 | illogic-al | [dunedin] |
| 05:03.13 | illogic-al | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Search?go=Go&search=dunedin |
| 05:03.18 | illogic-al | blargh |
| 05:03.23 | illogic-al | i hate the expansion |
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| 05:19.57 | MrWrong | good morning... |
| 05:20.23 | MrWrong | got a quick upgrade question for anyone if they're awake |
| 05:20.52 | MrWrong | goin from 3.4.2 to ~current : whats the best way to go? upgrade to stock 3.5.1 then go to 3.5.3? |
| 05:20.54 | icwiener | international channel.... |
| 05:21.17 | illogic-al | MrWrong: right to 3.5.3 is ok |
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| 05:21.36 | MrWrong | everytime i try to jump to 3.5.3, kdeinit is never found when i re-startx |
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| 05:26.51 | illogic-al | MrWrong: I don't know much about slackware. i'd suggest trying the #slackware chan for help |
| 05:27.12 | MrWrong | illogic-al, what you running for a distro? |
| 05:27.14 | illogic-al | MrWrong: actually, in a terminal, type this |
| 05:27.27 | illogic-al | 'which kdeinit' |
| 05:27.32 | illogic-al | MrWrong: archlinux |
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| 05:27.43 | MrWrong | i hear good things about arch |
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| 05:29.53 | MrWrong | illogic-al, i get "/opt/kde/bin/kdeinit |
| 05:30.09 | illogic-al | I like it. |
| 05:30.46 | illogic-al | MrWrong: have you tried starting with kdm? |
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| 05:32.12 | MrWrong | not sure what you mean exactly by that illogic-al |
| 05:33.00 | illogic-al | kdm is the graphical desktop manager. |
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| 05:33.07 | illogic-al | starts KDE from a GUI |
| 05:33.52 | illogic-al | If you can log into KDE from KDM then you startx script probably needs to be modified for 3.5 |
| 05:34.02 | illogic-al | if not, then KDE insall is probably broken |
| 05:35.19 | MrWrong | i use xwmconfig to select DE, and i startx from init3 |
| 05:36.45 | illogic-al | well if you have a better idea on how to check whether your install is messed up, feel free to do so. |
| 05:37.46 | MrWrong | illogic-al, its a fresh install right now : no mods, nothing new at the moment |
| 05:38.25 | MrWrong | then to install em all :| |
| 05:38.53 | illogic-al | Haven't you installed 3.5.3? |
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| 05:40.16 | MrWrong | not yet illogic-al : was wondering on the best way to "upgrade" it |
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| 05:55.17 | illogic-al | MrWrong: just install |
| 05:55.32 | illogic-al | if you have probs then come back here :-) |
| 05:55.42 | MrWrong | im getting all the pieces at the moment ;) illogic-al |
| 05:56.08 | illogic-al | i would delete all the old kde 3.4.x stuff first |
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| 05:56.46 | MrWrong | why illogic-al |
| 05:57.04 | MrWrong | is it going somewhere diff. than /opt/ ? |
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| 05:57.33 | Renze | how would someone that doesn't use slackware know the answer to that? |
| 05:57.37 | illogic-al | MrWrong: I don't know. But it hard for something to mess up the installation if it doesn't exist isn't it? |
| 05:58.13 | illogic-al | Renze: that's why I like you Renze. Tact. |
| 05:58.22 | Renze | tact? what's that? |
| 05:58.34 | illogic-al | lol |
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| 05:59.19 | MrWrong | Renze, i ask cuz illogic-al asked me to do a 'which kdeinit' : was basically wondering if where mine is located is nearby his |
| 05:59.48 | MrWrong | since most tree's are similiar |
| 06:00.11 | Renze | MrWrong: different distros install stuff in different places... slackware uses /opt/kde, gentoo uses /usr/kde/3.5/, archlinux uses... help me out here illogic-al :) |
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| 06:00.36 | illogic-al | Renze: /opt/kde :-) |
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| 06:01.01 | Renze | illogic-al: bah, and here I thought archlinux had taste :) |
| 06:01.04 | MrWrong | ty illogic-al for i guess answering me...... |
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| 06:01.49 | Renze | MrWrong: assuming another distro installs stuff in the same place as yours is a mistake :) |
| 06:02.22 | MrWrong | Renze, i never assume it will, but ive heard alot of comparison's between arch n slack |
| 06:02.44 | MrWrong | in how they're similiar, yet diff. |
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| 06:53.59 | edulix | hello |
| 06:54.10 | edulix | I've got kde 3.5.3 installed |
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| 06:54.30 | edulix | I don't know why, but now kicker panel is only shown in virtual desktop 1 ! |
| 06:56.39 | edulix | restarted kicke3r, now it's working |
| 06:56.46 | edulix | very strange thing... |
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| 07:02.08 | roxy_ | in Konversation, how can I not see the join/left message ? |
| 07:03.21 | Renze | Settings -> Configure Konversation, Chat Window, tick "Hide Join/Part/Nick events" |
| 07:03.44 | iframe | i'm using fc5, after my last update, 2 days ago, can't find kcalc in the utilities->desktop, before said update the app was in the menu, any ideas?... |
| 07:04.28 | Renze | ask the person responsibe for the fedora packages |
| 07:04.50 | Renze | responsible* |
| 07:05.39 | iframe | fedora people says something similar: ask the kde people... |
| 07:05.57 | Renze | kde is only released as source. packages are the distro's responsibility |
| 07:06.02 | iframe | so?... |
| 07:06.12 | Renze | I built kde from source, and I have kcalc |
| 07:06.25 | Renze | therefore it's a packaging issue |
| 07:06.36 | iframe | k i'll ask the fedora people one more time... |
| 07:08.12 | roxy_ | Renze: thanks again :-) |
| 07:08.21 | Renze | roxy_: no problem :) |
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| 07:09.18 | ironfroggy | has anyone here used the cryptography plugin for kopete? |
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| 07:11.26 | Renze | ironfroggy: I would use it if anybody I chat with had a gpg key... but they don't :) |
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| 07:13.30 | ironfroggy | they can make them so easily tho! |
| 07:13.43 | Renze | yes, but they don' |
| 07:13.45 | Renze | whoops |
| 07:13.48 | Renze | yes, but they don't want to :) |
| 07:14.14 | Renze | most of them use *shudder* windows :P |
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| 07:16.05 | ironfroggy | so have you used it at all tho? im having trouble getting my outgoing messages to be encrypted. |
| 07:16.41 | Renze | no, I haven't had the chance to try it yet... but I did notice a patch on kde-apps.org |
| 07:17.05 | ironfroggy | well ive got someone successfully sending me encrypted messages, but im not getting my own encrypted. |
| 07:17.37 | Renze | check out the patch and see if it's for that issue. also check bugs.kde.org and see if it is known |
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| 07:24.29 | ironfroggy | how could it be an issue? obviously messages can be sent encrypted, because how else could i receive them? |
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| 07:25.06 | Renze | so the people you're talking to are using kopete? |
| 07:25.11 | ironfroggy | yes |
| 07:25.21 | Renze | hmmm... |
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| 08:24.13 | kolla | heh.. telenor.ntnu.no? :) |
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| 08:27.17 | PhilRod | what specifically do you want to do? To be honest, I doubt there's any specific documentation anywhere |
| 08:28.47 | kolla | I want to know if there's more I can put into it.. obvious things like terminal size, noscrollbar.. basicly anything that you can also gice as command line options |
| 08:28.58 | kolla | s/gice/give |
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| 08:31.02 | kolla | but I guess not, I suspect it can not alter the appearance of konsole itself |
| 08:31.38 | PhilRod | I don't think so, because you can have multiple sessions in one konsole instance |
| 08:31.41 | PhilRod | (as tabs) |
| 08:31.43 | kolla | right |
| 08:32.05 | PhilRod | that's off the top of my head - I haven't tried it |
| 08:32.45 | kolla | guess I can make a script that uses dcop to change the appearance after the terminal is open |
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| 08:36.16 | PhilRod | yeah, that could work |
| 08:37.42 | kolla | but how does the script know what konsole it's running in :) |
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| 08:41.34 | kolla | anyways, didnt find a way to hide tabs from dcop :/ |
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| 08:42.53 | vinboy | hi |
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| 08:49.10 | PhilRod | hi vinboy |
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| 08:50.32 | pinotree | mrning PhilRod |
| 08:50.35 | pinotree | +o |
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| 08:51.01 | PhilRod | hiya pinotree |
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| 09:13.43 | Mitja | I'm running Korganizer 3.5 with KDE 3.5.3 on Debian Etch and there's no Save and Save As options in Korganizer. What's going on? |
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| 09:15.27 | kolla | Mitja: nothing, it's supposed to be like that |
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| 09:15.43 | Mitja | kolla, so there's only import/export? |
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| 09:16.41 | Renze | Mitja: you set your calendar resource in control centre, and korganizer uses that. |
| 09:18.11 | Mitja | ic |
| 09:18.15 | Mitja | 10x |
| 09:18.20 | kolla | never really used korganizer... never managed to structure myself enough to use PIM software :) |
| 09:18.23 | Renze | np |
| 09:18.36 | Renze | kolla: hippie? :) |
| 09:18.45 | Mitja | I use it but don't obey it ;) |
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| 09:20.07 | kolla | Renze: nah, not enough hair nor smoke :) |
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| 09:36.22 | kwoot | hi. I am writing an article on the Linupedia.nl site about IRC. Can someone please say something so I can copy/paste it in the tutorial? |
| 09:36.51 | icwiener_ | lol? |
| 09:37.01 | kwoot | good enough. |
| 09:37.03 | kwoot | :-) |
| 09:37.17 | icwiener_ | hey, it's copyrighted. ;) |
| 09:37.33 | kwoot | now if only konversation could log this in html form so i keep the colors :-) |
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| 09:37.47 | kwoot | oh, well, in that case. it is a CC site :-) |
| 09:38.05 | icwiener_ | What kind of article is it? |
| 09:38.07 | kwoot | even dpc5 helps out :-) |
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| 09:38.14 | icwiener_ | I mean, for what kind of people? |
| 09:38.53 | kwoot | the site is an example of open teaching content. visitors should be students learning about Linux. It is all starten by the ROC Zeeland organisation. |
| 09:39.35 | kwoot | currently I am writing the IRC article. the above snippet is great. thanks! |
| 09:39.46 | icwiener_ | hehe welcome :) |
| 09:40.49 | kwoot | look at: http://www.linupedia.nl/wiki/index.php/IRC. you're archived/in/immortalised/whatever. LOL |
| 09:41.39 | kwoot | still some translation/rewrite work to do. thanks. got to go now or I won't get anyting more done today. again, thanks. |
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| 10:27.47 | PhilRod | hiya apokryphos. ltns |
| 10:27.50 | apokryphos | hey :). Yup, University leaves little time for other things 8) |
| 10:27.53 | apokryphos | how did your exams go? |
| 10:28.06 | Ash-Fox | God, kdevelop takes forever to compile |
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| 10:28.40 | PhilRod | apokryphos: one was great, one was awful. We'll see if the other years + my project pull it up enough to get the mark I want |
| 10:29.31 | apokryphos | I wish you all the best :); how long is it until you get your results? Long wait? |
| 10:29.48 | PhilRod | a few weeks. I never pay much attention, so I don't know exactly when |
| 10:30.40 | apokryphos | I didn't pay much attention all year :-O, so I might end up having to re-take a module it seems. |
| 10:30.51 | apokryphos | annoying, but gonna have to deal with it |
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| 10:34.55 | the-erm | At one point in time kde used to tell me when my cpu was overheating. It doesn't do this any more, and mesg y doesn't seem to work... any ideas? |
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| 10:40.53 | Ash-Fox | the-erm, nope |
| 10:41.15 | PhilRod | apokryphos: does that just mean resitting an exam, or will you have to redo coursework etc? |
| 10:41.24 | the-erm | I know I must have turned off mesg y somewhere ... just not sure how I did it. |
| 10:41.34 | apokryphos | PhilRod: no coursework for me in the first year, so it would be just resiting an exam, yeah. |
| 10:41.43 | apokryphos | blasted Geometry! |
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| 10:42.02 | apokryphos | if you had asked me at the beginning of the year which one I'd most likely have to retake, Geometry would certainly be at the bottom of the list |
| 10:42.48 | apokryphos | that's because of the clever teacher; lures you in with the 'fun' Geometry stuff, then brings out all the algebraic geometry which.... just isn't fun :P |
| 10:45.26 | PhilRod | ah, I know the ones |
| 10:46.02 | PhilRod | they're all enthusiastic, so you think "wow, I really like this subject", then you sit the exam and realise that you didn't actually *learn* anything from the lecture |
| 10:46.04 | PhilRod | +=s |
| 10:46.41 | apokryphos | he was possibly my favourite teacher during the year, and I actually did best in the exam of the professor I dislike most. Go figure. |
| 10:47.00 | qupada | all maths lecturers are overly enthusiastic. i guess they have to be or people would realise earlier on what a crock of shit it was |
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| 10:48.19 | apokryphos | oh come on, it's not that bad :D. I enjoy most of it, it's just that anything University-related tends to get in the way of University-life |
| 10:49.56 | qupada | have you had the pleasure of a topic that calls itself 'matrix algebra'? |
| 10:50.25 | apokryphos | I've done such things, yes :P |
| 10:50.48 | qupada | then you will understand why it has made me bitter and twisted |
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| 10:50.53 | qupada | calculus i can handle |
| 10:50.56 | apokryphos | same |
| 10:51.11 | apokryphos | Calculus was pretty fun when it wanted to be |
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| 10:55.07 | PhilRod | that's why physics is so great - we learn enough maths to be dangerous, but leave the boring bits to "it can be shown that..." |
| 10:55.32 | PhilRod | or "mathematicians have proven that..." |
| 10:55.53 | pinotree | PhilRod: speaking about physics, do you know there's a SoC for a physics application for edu? |
| 10:56.44 | PhilRod | oh, I remember seeing it, I think |
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| 10:58.18 | PhilRod | in fact, s/physics/science/ there, and it still applies |
| 10:58.22 | pinotree | PhilRod: if you have idieas, there's always #kde-edu for discussing ;-) |
| 10:58.31 | PhilRod | I have questions more than ideas :-) |
| 10:58.52 | pinotree | like? :) |
| 11:00.31 | PhilRod | well, it's something like: Science seems to have two components: 1. It's a body of knowledge 2. It's a method for finding out new things. Presenting one without the other seems unsatisfying (eg "we know this" "how?" "we just do") |
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| 11:01.26 | PhilRod | but the explanations behind lots of scientific facts are difficult and require lots of other background knowledge, so giving someone a flavour of "we know <X>, and here's how we worked it out" is very difficult |
| 11:01.38 | PhilRod | without getting them to do a science degree first :-) |
| 11:01.57 | PhilRod | I don't know if any of that is relevant to kde-edu :-) |
| 11:03.04 | pinotree | well, i suppose a program for physics simulations and interactive experiments should give a "learning curve" to the user |
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| 11:05.08 | pinotree | i mean, it should make the user more and more expert in an field, with simple things and a lot if explanatins before, and then slightly less explanatins and more difficult experiments |
| 11:06.24 | PhilRod | yes, definitely |
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| 11:07.13 | PhilRod | promoting understanding is as important as/more important than promoting knowledge |
| 11:07.44 | PhilRod | (which is something that I try to think about when writing docs, so the knowledge will be more widely relevant than just the one thing being described) |
| 11:07.54 | PhilRod | I don't know if I really succeed :-) |
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| 11:35.12 | alexissoft | hi |
| 11:37.17 | PhilRod | hi alexissoft |
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| 11:55.04 | whirlwind | Hello to all! |
| 11:55.32 | whirlwind | Since KDE 3.4.0 Konqueror show tarballs as folders in directory tree |
| 11:55.45 | whirlwind | How can i disable it? |
| 11:55.56 | whirlwind | is it possible at all? |
| 11:56.54 | PhilRod | what behaviour do you want instead? |
| 11:57.19 | whirlwind | as in kde <3.4 |
| 11:57.24 | PhilRod | what was that? |
| 11:58.17 | whirlwind | Konqueror shows in directory tree _only_ real folders |
| 11:58.37 | PhilRod | is this in the sidebar, or in 'tree view' in the main window? |
| 11:58.55 | whirlwind | sidebar |
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| 12:01.10 | PhilRod | I can't see a way to do that, sorry |
| 12:01.26 | PhilRod | stay for a while though - someone else might know |
| 12:01.45 | whirlwind | thanks for help |
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| 12:17.19 | illogic-al | moin |
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| 12:20.02 | PhilRod | hiya illogic-al |
| 12:20.23 | illogic-al | Phil. Hey man. |
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| 12:21.17 | illogic-al | I broke down and bought the Gnarls Barkley CD last night. |
| 12:21.26 | illogic-al | :-D |
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| 12:25.54 | PhilRod | is that a good thing or a bad thing? |
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| 12:27.58 | illogic-al | PhilRod: definitely a good thing |
| 12:29.43 | PhilRod | excellent |
| 12:30.21 | illogic-al | sexcellent even |
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| 12:33.15 | PhilRod | heh |
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| 12:45.07 | arny` | hi all |
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| 12:45.59 | arny` | I`m trying to build kdegames(3.5.3) on 64-bit but got this error: make[4]: Entering directory `/tmp/kdegames-3.5.3/kmines' |
| 12:45.59 | arny` | /bin/sh: -c: line 2: syntax error near unexpected token `' |
| 12:45.59 | arny` | /bin/sh: -c: line 2: `|| echo "Error: Could not install the game with correct permissions !!" \' |
| 12:46.29 | PhilRod | please put the whole compile output on a pastebin |
| 12:47.36 | PhilRod | and paste a link to it here |
| 12:47.39 | PhilRod | ~pastebin |
| 12:47.46 | apt | hmm... pastebin is a place to paste your stuff without flooding the channel - try http://pastebin.com/, or http://pastebin.ca, or http://channels.debian.net/paste, or for #oe use http://oe.pastebin.com, or http://bzflag.pastebin.ca/ |
| 12:47.50 | pinotree | PhilRod: /topic... |
| 12:48.03 | PhilRod | oh yeah :-} |
| 12:48.44 | pinotree | +p |
| 12:48.48 | pinotree | grr |
| 12:49.14 | arny` | PhilRod, http://www.bluewhite64.com/kde-err |
| 12:53.22 | simon23 | hello, i have strange font symbols in my konqueror, how can i find out which font package is missing ? |
| 12:54.08 | arny` | PhilRod, any idea what`s wrong with the installation ? |
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| 12:55.54 | arny` | strange, kmines is installed in the destination dir :) |
| 12:59.13 | PhilRod | check you have permissions to the destination dir. Are you trying to install in /tmp? maybe a problem with the sticky bit |
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| 12:59.37 | PhilRod | (this is random guessing - I don't remember seeing a problem with 'make install' in a long time) |
| 13:00.19 | PhilRod | /bin/sh ../libtool --silent --mode=install /usr/bin/ginstall -c -p 'kmines' '/tmp/package-kdegames/opt/kde/bin/kmines' |
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| 13:00.26 | PhilRod | you could try running that line on its own |
| 13:00.30 | PhilRod | see what happens |
| 13:00.41 | PhilRod | beyond that, I can't really guess |
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| 13:00.56 | PhilRod | you could ask in #kde-devel if no one else here has an idea |
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| 13:01.46 | arny` | PhilRod, if I run that nothing happens |
| 13:02.25 | oneforall | hi was just noticing with 3.5.3 that the app.desktop needs the full path to the icons in /usr/share/pixmaps/ now |
| 13:11.31 | simon23 | hello, i have strange font symbols in my konqueror, how can i find out which font package is missing ? Can anyone please help me ? |
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| 13:14.56 | mattepiu | hum, when I hold down shift for 6 seconds, kde opens me a strange dialog, anyone knows what's that? |
| 13:15.18 | pinotree | mattepiu: accessibilty functions |
| 13:15.22 | PhilRod | it's accessibility features - you can turn them off in kcontrol |
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| 13:15.50 | mattepiu | ok, thanks you... where in kcontrol can I disable it? |
| 13:16.12 | pinotree | kcontrol -> regional & accessibility -> accessibility -> activation gestures |
| 13:17.09 | mattepiu | thank you very much |
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| 13:19.23 | antiroach | i was able to do it before but i cant figure it out again |
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| 13:39.25 | aeiou | hi |
| 13:39.35 | PhilRod | hi aeiou |
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| 13:40.54 | raf256 | even the keyboard is not working there! |
| 13:41.07 | aeiou | is someone of you using kat (http://kat.mandriva.com)? |
| 13:41.54 | raf256 | vim a |
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| 13:52.39 | eml | Hi, I need some basic help. Whenever a KDE-application needs to open a browser, it tries to open "mozilla-firefox-bin" (which I thought the name was), but the name is "firefox-bin"... where can I change it? I've looked through the control, but I'm probly not observant enough to find it. |
| 13:53.19 | pinotree | eml: kcontrol -> kde components -> component chooser -> web browser |
| 13:53.58 | eml | Ah, thanks pinotree! |
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| 14:03.29 | linuksamiko | hi everyone |
| 14:03.47 | linuksamiko | i have a problem with konqueror 3.5.3 |
| 14:04.13 | PhilRod | linuksamiko: go ahead |
| 14:04.20 | linuksamiko | there are certain pages konqueror can't show proparly |
| 14:04.32 | linuksamiko | for example this one: http://shots.osdir.com/slideshows/slideshow.php?release=510&slide=5&alang=de |
| 14:04.48 | linuksamiko | i only see the top frame but nothing else |
| 14:04.50 | eastwood | linuksamiko, was that page coded for IE? |
| 14:05.33 | linuksamiko | no |
| 14:05.55 | linuksamiko | it used to work in older versions of konqueror just fine |
| 14:06.31 | simon23_away | . |
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| 14:07.04 | eduardonyc | Hello friends ;-) |
| 14:07.30 | eastwood | hy eduard |
| 14:07.33 | eastwood | how's nyc? |
| 14:07.45 | linuksamiko | there might be another reason: I used to have suse10 and i switched to ubuntu dapper. I can't recall if I had 3.5.3 installed on suse or only 3.5.2 but on my suse-computer everything was fine. And now since I changed my distro I have problems with a few pages |
| 14:07.46 | eastwood | still in the same place? |
| 14:08.09 | eastwood | linuksamiko, tried deleting the cache? |
| 14:08.12 | eduardonyc | eastwood: yes it's approximately in the same location but it may have changed since you last knew, who knows. |
| 14:08.22 | linuksamiko | no |
| 14:08.26 | eduardonyc | it doesn't look like it did in the Taxi Driver days |
| 14:08.30 | linuksamiko | wait a minute |
| 14:08.34 | linuksamiko | i will try it |
| 14:09.07 | eduardonyc | is anyone here a akgregator expert? ;) |
| 14:09.18 | pinotree | eduardonyc: --> #akregator |
| 14:09.30 | linuksamiko | doesn't make any differents |
| 14:09.41 | eduardonyc | pinotree: will try. i think it was a ghost town last time i looked |
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| 14:09.59 | eastwood | linuksamiko, tried using a different browser and got a different result? |
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| 14:10.19 | linuksamiko | yes |
| 14:10.23 | linuksamiko | firefox works fine |
| 14:10.41 | linuksamiko | thats how I display those pages right now |
| 14:10.57 | eastwood | take a snapshot |
| 14:11.00 | chavo | linuksamiko, I'm having the same problem on dapper drake |
| 14:11.08 | eastwood | i get the same page in both browsers |
| 14:11.28 | eastwood | without the ads in Firefox |
| 14:11.32 | chavo | newsforge doesn't work right, and quite a few other random sites |
| 14:12.27 | linuksamiko | newsforge doesn't work on my computer neither |
| 14:14.42 | linuksamiko | I had an idea |
| 14:14.48 | linuksamiko | it seams to work now |
| 14:15.07 | linuksamiko | but not the way it should work. I turned the adds of |
| 14:16.07 | chavo | linuksamiko, yep turning off the adblock makes newsforge load here too |
| 14:16.12 | chavo | aha |
| 14:16.52 | linuksamiko | but now I can see adds too. That is not so nice (but a work-around for a while) |
| 14:17.27 | chavo | linuksamiko, you can use other methods to block adds for now, I also have a custom stylesheet |
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| 14:17.45 | linuksamiko | yes |
| 14:17.51 | chavo | and use the adblock filters from firefox |
| 14:18.23 | linuksamiko | in konqueror? |
| 14:18.33 | chavo | yes |
| 14:18.38 | linuksamiko | how can I do that? |
| 14:19.15 | chavo | go to settings -> stylesheets and set up a user defined stylesheet |
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| 14:19.36 | chavo | I just used the one from my firefox profile, but you can find them on the net too |
| 14:19.59 | chavo | well I copied it into my .kde folder and added some stuff to it |
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| 14:20.14 | linuksamiko | oh, I think I found it. THX |
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| 14:20.28 | linuksamiko | I've got to go. CU |
| 14:20.33 | chavo | yeah it's the userChrome.css or whatever |
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| 15:01.10 | tapas | hmm, can i somehow update my korganizer dates, etc, over the netwok |
| 15:01.16 | tapas | network? |
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| 15:01.41 | sredna | tapas: Add a resource for the file, it it is writable |
| 15:01.45 | roxy_ | eastwood: :-) |
| 15:01.59 | tapas | sredna: hmm |
| 15:02.06 | tapas | sredna: i must admit i don't understand that |
| 15:02.17 | tapas | sredna: i found out i can write the calendar data |
| 15:02.32 | tapas | sredna: but that's a bit tiresome |
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| 15:02.42 | tapas | (writing, transferring, reading) |
| 15:02.57 | sredna | tapas: Korganizer allows you to have several calendar resources in your calendar, local as well as remote ones |
| 15:03.15 | tvercaut | Hi all, I have a small problem using KDE3.5.3 (on fedora core 3). Previously, I was able to change the resolution of my monitor as a usual user (using e.g. "kcmshell display"). Now I need root privileges... otherwise "kcmshell display" shows only the "gamma" tab, no "size & orientation" and no "power control". How can I allow those settings to be made by usual users? |
| 15:03.29 | sredna | tapas: If a remote file is writable, you can just change your data as you want to, just like a local file |
| 15:04.06 | tapas | sredna: ah, just "add" a new calendar :) ok, lemme play around with that |
| 15:04.59 | tapas | sredna: now i just have to find out where korganizer stores its calendar data on my main machine |
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| 15:05.49 | sredna | tapas: Somewhere there is a list of current calendars, which has the URL |
| 15:07.08 | simon23 | is there any software in KDE for videoConferencing ??? |
| 15:07.19 | tapas | sredna: ah, too bad, doens't seem to understand sftp urls |
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| 15:07.34 | simon23 | skype doesnt work for me... something like netmeeting ? |
| 15:07.48 | tapas | oh it does |
| 15:07.52 | tapas | bad syntax on my part |
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| 15:10.32 | vldmr | hi |
| 15:10.41 | vldmr | I have problems with kdm startup |
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| 15:11.09 | eastwood | error output log |
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| 15:11.43 | vldmr | eastwood: the kdm.log show me anything I dont understand |
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| 15:11.53 | eastwood | hmm |
| 15:11.58 | eastwood | try doing |
| 15:12.07 | eastwood | grep EE /var/x11/error.log |
| 15:12.26 | pinotree | eastwood: /var/x11/log ??? |
| 15:12.47 | eastwood | grep EE /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
| 15:12.48 | pinotree | logs go into /var/log/ ? |
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| 15:13.08 | vldmr | I have kdm.log |
| 15:13.10 | eastwood | pinotree, i made a mistake, ok? |
| 15:13.13 | vldmr | into /var/log |
| 15:13.34 | pinotree | ooh, don't worry ;) |
| 15:14.05 | vldmr | Errors from keymap compiler (xkdbcomp) reports: |
| 15:14.35 | eastwood | vldmr, distro |
| 15:14.47 | vldmr | eastwood: slackintosh |
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| 15:15.14 | eastwood | well, you gotta edit xorg.conf and fix your keyboard layout |
| 15:15.48 | vldmr | but its allright |
| 15:15.58 | vldmr | the problem can be kdm |
| 15:16.18 | vldmr | x work fine without kdm |
| 15:16.27 | vldmr | example: xdm |
| 15:16.41 | vldmr | but kdm didn't work |
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| 15:17.12 | eastwood | purge kdm config files and try reinstall it |
| 15:17.18 | eastwood | i dunno kdm configs so well |
| 15:17.59 | vldmr | the kdm.log appear |
| 15:18.38 | vldmr | Type "ONE_LEVEL" has 1 levels, but <RALT> has 2 symbls |
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| 15:21.13 | vldmr | (EE) end of block range 0xfdffffff < begin 0xfe0020ff correcting |
| 15:21.28 | vldmr | kde work fine |
| 15:21.37 | vldmr | but kdm crash on startup |
| 15:22.03 | eastwood | try reinstall it |
| 15:23.47 | vldmr | eastwood: I do it before |
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| 15:40.16 | Enverex | Erm, anyone know why "Align to grid" for my desktop icons would suddenly stop working? |
| 15:41.02 | stoned | ugh |
| 15:41.05 | stoned | desktop icons are ugly |
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| 15:41.09 | stoned | I never use em |
| 15:41.22 | stoned | I hate icons on my desktop, I hate ANYTHING on my desktop except app windows |
| 15:41.28 | stoned | hell, I don't even use the taskbar to switch anymore |
| 15:41.50 | stoned | left click on desktop brings up the window list menu, right click pops the kde application menu |
| 15:41.53 | stoned | :D |
| 15:42.09 | Caster | I almost never see my desktop |
| 15:42.16 | stoned | same here |
| 15:42.26 | eastwood | Enverex, locked icons? |
| 15:42.26 | stoned | I just have keys setup for stuff |
| 15:42.35 | stoned | eastwood, clint? |
| 15:42.39 | edulix | I do, to see the knotes |
| 15:42.52 | eastwood | stoned, eric? |
| 15:43.02 | edulix | b, a ? |
| 15:43.06 | stoned | cool, but not as cool as clint though |
| 15:43.09 | stoned | he was the man |
| 15:43.13 | eastwood | i always have a desktop blank |
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| 15:43.33 | eastwood | the other 3 are always filled |
| 15:44.02 | stoned | I don't even need any more than 2 desktops if i ever use em |
| 15:44.21 | stoned | dual head kicks ass |
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| 15:45.14 | Enverex | eastwood : Nope, they aren't locked. I mean I can move them around, it just doesn't keep them all ligned up in the grid |
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| 15:48.18 | Kyral_FreeBSD | hmm |
| 15:48.24 | Kyral_FreeBSD | this could be interesting |
| 15:48.47 | Kyral_FreeBSD | I run an install.sh for something...but if I wanted to be all fancy like, I could call KDialog :P |
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| 15:57.14 | pinucset | is there the possibility in konqueror that only writing slashdot it goes to slashdot.org and this in all the sites i visit? It should be fun if it can remember the .xxx and we should write it... |
| 15:58.47 | grepper | completion should take care of that |
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| 16:02.10 | grepper | probaby easy to do though |
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| 16:04.58 | grepper | pinucset: just set a search provider called "slashdot" and put http://slashdot.org in the url |
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| 16:05.31 | grepper | settings->configure konqueror->web shortcuts |
| 16:05.34 | pinucset | grepper but the nice think should be it was done automatically :) |
| 16:05.56 | grepper | bah |
| 16:06.58 | pinucset | i will do a wish :) |
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| 16:09.54 | max06 | hi :) |
| 16:10.06 | max06 | when will KDE4 arrive? |
| 16:10.20 | Q-collective | not today |
| 16:10.20 | verve | dumb question: when i hover over my clock panel applet, it shows like a calendar page of the number 19 in the tooltip.. is that just an example or something? 'cause it's june 22nd |
| 16:10.21 | verve | heh |
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| 16:10.42 | Q-collective | max06: ask again tomorrow |
| 16:10.43 | Q-collective | :-) |
| 16:11.04 | Q-collective | but seriously: around january 2007 |
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| 16:12.04 | max06 | oh no... I don't want to wait for phonon |
| 16:12.14 | Q-collective | then try svn |
| 16:12.23 | Q-collective | don't whine for breakage though |
| 16:12.24 | Q-collective | ;) |
| 16:12.30 | PhilRod | max06: no one knows exactly when, but if you'd like to make it happen faster, there are lots of ways to get involved with development |
| 16:12.39 | PhilRod | coding, docs, usability, artwork, .... |
| 16:13.04 | Q-collective | yeah, extensive usability testing |
| 16:13.05 | max06 | coding is nice... |
| 16:13.05 | Enverex | What sort of changes does KDE4 bring then? |
| 16:13.12 | max06 | for me |
| 16:13.17 | max06 | but which languages? |
| 16:13.18 | Q-collective | Enverex: plasma, solid, phonon |
| 16:13.19 | Q-collective | lots |
| 16:13.40 | Enverex | Q-collective : erm? |
| 16:13.48 | Q-collective | plasma.kde.org |
| 16:13.52 | max06 | I can't only code in freebasic :) |
| 16:13.52 | Q-collective | solid.kde.org |
| 16:13.58 | Q-collective | phonon.kde.org |
| 16:14.00 | Q-collective | *g* |
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| 16:15.06 | Enverex | hmm... that's... different |
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| 16:15.20 | Q-collective | it is |
| 16:15.27 | Q-collective | hence the "4" in KDE4 |
| 16:15.28 | Q-collective | ;) |
| 16:15.32 | Kyral_FreeBSD | Well thats a bitch |
| 16:15.43 | max06 | once again :) Which coding languages? |
| 16:15.43 | Kyral_FreeBSD | They took the Qt bindings for Ruby outta FreeBSD |
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| 16:15.57 | PhilRod | Kyral_FreeBSD: is it in ports? |
| 16:16.03 | Kyral_FreeBSD | PhilRod: Nope |
| 16:16.05 | Kyral_FreeBSD | not at all |
| 16:16.08 | PhilRod | weird |
| 16:16.16 | Kyral_FreeBSD | the /usr/ports/MOVED file said "Obsolete" |
| 16:16.21 | Q-collective | :( |
| 16:16.23 | Kyral_FreeBSD | Sysinfo for 'bsdvr.clarkson.edu': FreeBSD 6.1-RELEASE running KDE 3.5.3, , HD: 5/70GB, , 108 proc's, |
| 16:16.24 | Enverex | When do they intend to release KDE4? My worries are that it's going to be even heavier and slower than KDE3? |
| 16:16.37 | Q-collective | Kyral_FreeBSD: guess you'll need to learn python then :-) |
| 16:16.41 | Kyral_FreeBSD | Qt4 is supposed to give it a performance boost |
| 16:16.49 | Enverex | hmm |
| 16:16.50 | Kyral_FreeBSD | Q-collective: or just install it manually :P |
| 16:17.01 | Q-collective | Enverex: [18:11:05] <Q-collective> but seriously: around january 2007 |
| 16:17.14 | Enverex | ah, k |
| 16:17.29 | Kyral_FreeBSD | Speaking of Ruby, anyone know a thing about its DCOP Bindings? |
| 16:17.35 | Q-collective | Enverex: the idea is to get things more optimized along the way, so no need to worry for sluggishness |
| 16:17.38 | max06 | is there a working version of phono yet? |
| 16:17.44 | Q-collective | not afaik |
| 16:17.55 | Q-collective | oh, they completed the NMM backend |
| 16:17.59 | Q-collective | so you can try that |
| 16:18.00 | Q-collective | :> |
| 16:18.03 | max06 | really? |
| 16:18.15 | max06 | are there any instrucktions how to use it? |
| 16:18.20 | pinotree | Q-collective: nmm is one the way, not sure if already working |
| 16:18.33 | max06 | arts isn't working well... |
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| 16:18.52 | Q-collective | arts is on deathrow |
| 16:18.58 | Q-collective | pinotree: oh, right |
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| 16:19.13 | max06 | but if here is anybody who can help me making it work :) |
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| 16:19.15 | pinotree | Q-collective: you could ask [hawk] ;) |
| 16:19.24 | Q-collective | (: |
| 16:19.45 | Q-collective | pinotree: he would most likely invite to help him coding anyway :p |
| 16:19.51 | Q-collective | like all lame kde devs do :p |
| 16:20.01 | [hawk] | Hi! |
| 16:20.14 | Q-collective | hey :) |
| 16:20.17 | max06 | or can you tell me another good working sound-server? |
| 16:20.27 | Q-collective | max06: alsa? :> |
| 16:20.34 | Enverex | What is the point in things like ARTS with ALSA around? |
| 16:20.41 | max06 | It doesn't want to work right |
| 16:21.03 | max06 | and it use arts ^^ |
| 16:21.04 | [hawk] | I have just logged in... what is the asnswer? |
| 16:21.26 | pinotree | [hawk]: they were talking about the nmm backend for phonon |
| 16:21.37 | [hawk] | Oh, nice! |
| 16:22.35 | Q-collective | [hawk]: yeah, like I thought it was ready but pinotree countered me with an insider info spell |
| 16:22.41 | Q-collective | ahem, anyway :) |
| 16:23.18 | max06 | I wan't to use more than one sound at the same time... |
| 16:23.42 | max06 | because when I'm listen to musik with amarok, I can't hear the phone ringing |
| 16:23.43 | [hawk] | No, it is not working atm... well it is sort of working... well it worked better pre dbus swithc. |
| 16:25.10 | Q-collective | max06: why isn't alsa working? |
| 16:25.19 | PhilRod | Enverex: if optimization is the thing you're interested in, I'm sure there are ways to get involved to help with that, if you're interested |
| 16:25.26 | max06 | don't know... i can't play more sounds |
| 16:25.49 | Enverex | PhilRod : I can't code, I'm just looking for a DE that's not as heavy |
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| 16:26.28 | PhilRod | max06: I think alsa has some support for hardware mixing, depending on what card you have. You might want to ask in #alsa or #yourdistro. You could also try changing the amarok backend |
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| 16:26.46 | max06 | moment... checking #alsa out :) |
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| 16:27.26 | PhilRod | Enverex: well, there are lightweight wm's/de's available. But it's always a tradeoff between speed and features |
| 16:27.54 | Enverex | PhilRod : KDE has nice features but it seems too slow, Gnomes been... labotomised and that's pretty much it |
| 16:27.56 | PhilRod | (still, KDE runs quite acceptably on my 1.5GHz celeron here, and I've heard of people running it on lower spec hardware even than that) |
| 16:28.17 | Enverex | I'm kinda comparing it to windows, it feels too heavy |
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| 16:28.58 | Chani | um, I kinda screwed something up while removing old kde packages. |
| 16:28.59 | Chani | chani@grendel ~ $ echo $KDEDIR |
| 16:28.59 | Chani | /usr/kde/3.2 |
| 16:29.17 | Chani | any idea where that var is set so that I can try to figure out why iot's not 3.5? |
| 16:29.49 | Kyral_FreeBSD | kdeconfig :P |
| 16:30.02 | PhilRod | Chani: what distro? |
| 16:30.37 | Chani | n/m found it |
| 16:30.44 | Chani | /etc/profile.env |
| 16:30.45 | Kyral_FreeBSD | when in doubt, compile it yourself |
| 16:30.49 | Kyral_FreeBSD | oy BSD |
| 16:30.52 | Chani | but, I still wonder *why* it's set wrong |
| 16:31.03 | Chani | PhilRod: gentoo |
| 16:31.08 | Kyral_FreeBSD | they keep multiple versions of auto* around, but none named without the version number |
| 16:31.14 | Kyral_FreeBSD | so you have to symlink them all |
| 16:31.33 | PhilRod | Kyral_FreeBSD: IIRC, that's auto* being braindead, rather than FreeBSD |
| 16:31.40 | Kyral_FreeBSD | PhilRod: ah |
| 16:31.46 | Chani | autoconf n'stuff? evil |
| 16:31.51 | Kyral_FreeBSD | well, RubyQt compiling :D |
| 16:31.56 | PhilRod | something about different (minor) versions being incompatible with one another |
| 16:31.59 | Chani | I remember having to set some dumb var for that |
| 16:32.16 | Kyral_FreeBSD | Chani: Well, RubyQt was removed from the Ports collection for SOME reason |
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| 16:32.24 | rdale | oh dear |
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| 16:33.05 | PhilRod | Kyral_FreeBSD: I take it you asked in #freebsd and searched -questions? |
| 16:33.14 | Chani | darnit. my body has this strange idea that food is more important that computers |
| 16:33.25 | PhilRod | Chani: food is tastier.... |
| 16:33.28 | Kyral_FreeBSD | PhilRod: Nope :P But I did make a thouroh search of the Ports database :D |
| 16:33.41 | Kyral_FreeBSD | Grepped Ruby, Qt, KDE. Nada |
| 16:34.00 | rdale | it's called QtRuby rather than RubyQt |
| 16:34.02 | Kyral_FreeBSD | Not a big deal, this machine isn't even mine (School Lab Machine) |
| 16:34.36 | Kyral_FreeBSD | and its not like I am adverse to compiling |
| 16:35.11 | PhilRod | s/adverse/averse/ |
| 16:35.22 | Kyral_FreeBSD | Spelling Nazi... |
| 16:35.24 | PhilRod | and so ends the vocab lesson |
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| 16:36.28 | PhilRod | hey, I'm an all-round grammar and vocabulary pedant - spelling nazism on its own is dull |
| 16:37.07 | rdale | it's QtRuby |
| 16:37.09 | pinotree | s/QT/Qt |
| 16:37.13 | mtnbkr | PhilRod: You should start your sentences with a capital letter :) |
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| 16:37.17 | Kyral_FreeBSD | whatever!!! |
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| 16:38.59 | PhilRod | mtnbkr: :-) |
| 16:41.23 | Chani | lol. |
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| 16:41.56 | Chani | I use very few capityal letters these days.. although bad spelling & grammar drives me nuts |
| 16:42.16 | Chani | aaand my typos are getting more and more frequent :P |
| 16:43.56 | eastwood | no shit Chani ... |
| 16:44.57 | Chani | anyways, I'm not sure why the var was wrong, but I fixed it. now to see if I get my pretty icons back |
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| 16:47.47 | Chani | arg! :( |
| 16:48.33 | Chani | I set it back to 3.5 and made sure it was changed in the shell, rand startx again but I'm still missing half my icons |
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| 16:50.03 | KDave | hi, i just wanted to ask if you plan to release 3.5.4 or next release will be 4.0 :) |
| 16:50.30 | rdale | 3.5.4 will be released first |
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| 16:50.37 | KDave | and then ? |
| 16:50.38 | pinotree | KDave: 3.5.4 is areldy scheduled |
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| 16:53.26 | KDave | hum hum... thanks ... readin http://kde.org/announcements/changelogs/changelog3_5_3to3_5_4.php :) |
| 16:53.59 | Caster | 3.6! |
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| 16:54.31 | KDave | 3.6? really? :) |
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| 16:54.39 | KDave | still with DCOP ? |
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| 16:55.01 | Chani | why would half my icons go missing? |
| 16:55.18 | Chani | and a completely random half, too |
| 16:55.43 | KDave | Chani, after upgrade? |
| 16:55.59 | Chani | I did some removing old kde packages and installing new ones as well |
| 16:56.06 | KDave | hmm ;) |
| 16:56.09 | Chani | can't be sure where I messed it |
| 16:56.25 | KDave | 3.4.x > 3.5.x ? |
| 16:56.26 | frb-work | MS won't let me sign in with my Windows Live id with konqueror |
| 16:57.17 | Chani | KDave: I had KDEDIR set to /usr/whatever/3.2 somehow; fixed that to 3.5 and still no change |
| 16:58.08 | Chani | frb-work: konq has issues with javascript. also, MS isn't one to try and accomodate it. have you tried firefox? |
| 16:58.17 | frb-work | Firefox works |
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| 16:58.37 | Chani | then I'd just blame it on konq being sucky |
| 16:59.30 | paoleela | Since today konqueror doesn't display ebay.de "my ebay" properly anymore. I tried on 2 different machines, kde 3.5.2 |
| 17:00.43 | KDave | Chani, $KDEDIR is depracated, try `kde-config --prefix' |
| 17:02.18 | Chani | /usr/kde/3.5 |
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| 17:03.15 | Chani | ok, then that's not the problem. what might be? |
| 17:03.33 | Chani | and why am I talking to someone that's not here? *sigh* |
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| 17:06.11 | Chani | what package would be responsible for icons? |
| 17:06.21 | Chani | kdegraphics or kdeartwork maybe? |
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| 17:07.27 | bram85_ | Chani: both kdelibs and kdeartwork |
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| 17:13.54 | Cerulean | Are there any good KDE graph drawers available? |
| 17:14.02 | pinotree | kmplot? |
| 17:14.10 | Cerulean | pinotree: Will look into it. Thanks |
| 17:14.10 | pinotree | kalgebra? |
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| 17:27.29 | frb-work | I need a dreamweaver profile for quanta |
| 17:27.50 | frb-work | I _Like_ dreamweaver, I like how it's code editor behaves, I like it's highlighting, and it's code collapse |
| 17:28.24 | Roey | its |
| 17:28.25 | Roey | its |
| 17:28.29 | Chani | eee! going and setting hte icon theme to crystalsvg seems to have fixed most of them :) guess kde forgot what theme it was supposwd to use. |
| 17:28.32 | Roey | why do people always make these stupid mistakes! |
| 17:28.33 | Roey | argh! |
| 17:28.34 | frb-work | yes yes, I know |
| 17:28.35 | Chani | but kdewallet is still being dumb' |
| 17:28.40 | frb-work | becasue we can't fucking type, that's why |
| 17:28.43 | Roey | :( |
| 17:28.53 | frb-work | if I could type, I wouldn't need quanta |
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| 17:35.10 | Kyral_FreeBSD | hehe this GUI stuff ain't that hard after all :D |
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| 17:40.03 | fridge | Hi, does OPIE PIM software integrate with KDE ? |
| 17:41.18 | Kyral_FreeBSD | OPIE? |
| 17:43.02 | fridge | OPIE is a QT based PDA software suite |
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| 17:43.20 | zamaliphe | hello |
| 17:43.46 | Kyral_FreeBSD | We have Kontact... |
| 17:43.50 | Kyral_FreeBSD | define "Integrate" |
| 17:45.15 | fridge | well yeah, using the kde synchronisation tools to sync contacts/appointments/notes etc |
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| 17:47.32 | koxta | Hi! I have a problem with kde: it logs out every time I log in. Any ideas? |
| 17:48.15 | koxta | I tried moving $HOME/.kde*, but no use. |
| 17:48.24 | koxta | I'm using kde 3.5.2 |
| 17:48.28 | PyroMithrandir | can anyone tell me why, in the File Associations kcontrol place, under the known types in audio, I have "mp3" "mpeg3" "x-mp3" and "x-mpeg3"? |
| 17:48.39 | PyroMithrandir | koxta, have you tried with another account on that computer? |
| 17:49.12 | koxta | PyroMithrandir: nope, I only have one account there |
| 17:49.24 | koxta | PyroMithrandir: and I'm not counting root account |
| 17:49.39 | koxta | but ok, let me try |
| 17:50.03 | PyroMithrandir | well, don't log in with root, I was just curious if you've isolated it as a user account problem yet |
| 17:50.45 | koxta | I've created a new user account and am trying to log in |
| 17:50.47 | koxta | hmm |
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| 17:51.09 | koxta | I've got a message: Could not find kstartupconfig. Check your installation |
| 17:51.24 | koxta | Well, it was working fine two days ago |
| 17:51.26 | koxta | :\ |
| 17:51.36 | PyroMithrandir | what have you done since then that might have broken it? |
| 17:51.46 | koxta | nothing :\ |
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| 17:52.20 | rdale | I had something similar and found the disk had filled up |
| 17:52.35 | koxta | hmm... I've removed /usr/kde/3.3 and /usr/kde/3.4 since I've moved to 3.5.2 a week ago |
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| 17:53.25 | PyroMithrandir | well, that doesn't sound like it should mess it up, but it might... |
| 17:53.26 | koxta | rdale: I've got about 12G disk space free |
| 17:53.38 | rdale | ah, not that then |
| 17:53.53 | PyroMithrandir | kstartupconfig is supposed to be in /usr/bin/ though, so deleting those wouldn't make that go away |
| 17:54.46 | koxta | PyroMithrandir: or maybe /usr/kde/3.5/bin/ |
| 17:55.43 | koxta | yup, there is kstartupconfig in /usr/kde/3.5/bin |
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| 17:56.29 | PyroMithrandir | well, mine is in /usr/bin :\ |
| 17:56.29 | koxta | my system is gentoo |
| 17:56.43 | PyroMithrandir | ah, mine's kubuntu, so, it could easily be different |
| 17:57.01 | koxta | yup |
| 17:57.04 | koxta | ok, thanks anyway |
| 17:57.28 | koxta | if anybody else had any ideas, I'd really appreciate sharing them with me ;) |
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| 17:58.05 | koxta | uhm. |
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| 17:59.07 | PyroMithrandir | koxta, you might want to try installing kde 3.5.3, thereby upgrading your kde version, which might fix the problem |
| 17:59.40 | illogic-al | koxta: 'which kstartupconfig` |
| 17:59.50 | illogic-al | run that command an tell me what the output is. |
| 18:00.21 | koxta | PyroMithrandir: not yet in gentoo |
| 18:00.24 | koxta | illogic-al: ok ;) |
| 18:00.35 | koxta | limbo 3.5 # which kstartupconfig |
| 18:00.39 | koxta | /usr/kde/3.5/bin/kstartupconfig |
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| 18:02.50 | koxta | hm? |
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| 18:03.06 | eastwood | O_o |
| 18:03.07 | koxta | ideas? |
| 18:04.27 | illogic-al | koxta: do it as the user you want to log in as. |
| 18:04.46 | koxta | illogic-al: not the new user, aye? |
| 18:05.02 | illogic-al | koxta: just not as root. |
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| 18:05.11 | koxta | illogic-al: I never log in as root |
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| 18:05.50 | illogic-al | koxta: you didn't run 'which kstartupconfig' as root? |
| 18:05.56 | zamaliphe | what is the defrent betuen kde 3.5.2 and 3.5.3 ?? |
| 18:06.07 | koxta | illogic-al: and when I log in as a new user (without .kde* in $HOME), I get the 'cannot find kstartupconfig' message |
| 18:06.24 | koxta | illogic-al: when I log in as an usual user I simply get logged out |
| 18:06.55 | zamaliphe | what is new in kde 3.5.3 ? |
| 18:06.56 | koxta | koxta@limbo ~ $ which kstartupconfig |
| 18:06.57 | koxta | /usr/kde/3.5/bin/kstartupconfig |
| 18:07.01 | illogic-al | zamaliphe: it's mainly a bugfix release, but some new features also got added I think |
| 18:07.05 | koxta | ok, that's for a nomal user |
| 18:07.28 | illogic-al | koxta: how are you logging into KDE? |
| 18:07.38 | koxta | illogic-al: by kdm |
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| 18:07.56 | koxta | illogic-al: but typing in startx doesn't work either (I simply get a black screen after that) |
| 18:07.56 | zamaliphe | where to get what new in it ? |
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| 18:08.21 | illogic-al | zamaliphe: install the new version |
| 18:09.01 | illogic-al | koxta: try this in the terminal |
| 18:09.29 | illogic-al | X& export DISPLAY=:0; |
| 18:09.30 | zamaliphe | illogic-al: i need to know before i install it .. it will take along time |
| 18:09.38 | illogic-al | and then startkde & |
| 18:09.47 | zamaliphe | illogic-al: do you have a link or some thing |
| 18:09.53 | koxta | illogic-al: ok |
| 18:09.57 | illogic-al | zamaliphe: kde.org |
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| 18:10.16 | illogic-al | there'll be a link to release notes on there. |
| 18:10.48 | zamaliphe | illogic-al: where exactly i have take a look at the site |
| 18:11.12 | illogic-al | have you even gone to the site yet? |
| 18:11.26 | zamaliphe | yes |
| 18:11.32 | koxta | kbuildsycoca running... |
| 18:11.32 | koxta | kdecore (KLibLoader): WARNING: KLibrary: /usr/kde/3.5/lib/kde3/kcm_keyboard.so: undefined symbol: init_keyboard_layout |
| 18:11.38 | koxta | and then bunch of errors |
| 18:11.42 | zamaliphe | and found 1 screen shot |
| 18:11.47 | zamaliphe | just 1 |
| 18:11.57 | zamaliphe | for kde 3.5.x |
| 18:12.01 | koxta | kcminit: ERROR: Shared memory segment size mismatch |
| 18:12.09 | koxta | KWrited - nas³uchiwanie urz±dzenia /dev/pts/1 |
| 18:12.10 | koxta | kdecore (KLibLoader): WARNING: KLibrary: /usr/kde/3.5/lib/kde3/kcm_kdnssd.so: undefined symbol: init_kdnssd |
| 18:12.24 | illogic-al | on the main page on latest announcements, there is a link for " KDE 3.5.3 Info Page" |
| 18:12.29 | koxta | illogic-al: ideas? |
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| 18:13.27 | illogic-al | koxta: don't pste to the channel. use a pastebin like the one in the topic please. |
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| 18:14.27 | koxta | illogic-al: yup, i know... but is it usable in console? |
| 18:14.49 | illogic-al | course it is. just use a console browser. |
| 18:14.56 | koxta | ok |
| 18:14.57 | illogic-al | like links/lynx |
| 18:15.07 | illogic-al | otherwise go to #flood |
| 18:15.17 | koxta | illogic-al: but I've already pasted the error message |
| 18:15.55 | illogic-al | and I'm telling you not to do it with the idea that there won't be a next time. |
| 18:16.16 | koxta | ok |
| 18:16.27 | koxta | I'll keep that on mind |
| 18:16.41 | illogic-al | koxta: and it looks like something went wrong with your compilation |
| 18:16.41 | koxta | however, do you know how to solve the problem? |
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| 18:17.10 | koxta | illogic-al: I did not build kde two days ago |
| 18:17.11 | illogic-al | as indicated by undefined symbol: messages. |
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| 18:17.16 | koxta | hmm |
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| 18:17.37 | illogic-al | I did not build kde two days ago either... |
| 18:17.45 | rolboh | leave |
| 18:17.52 | rolboh | exit |
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| 18:19.51 | lnxnt | howto print some more output? more file > ? |
| 18:19.55 | koxta | ok... |
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| 18:23.16 | illogic-al | zamaliphe: info on release and new features http://kde.org/announcements/announce-3.5.3.php |
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| 18:26.42 | zamaliphe | illogic-al: thanks |
| 18:30.11 | Q-collective | is there a kde alternative for gobby? |
| 18:31.05 | eastwood | start by explaining what gobby does |
| 18:31.54 | Q-collective | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gobby |
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| 18:32.13 | thiago | and in a few words? |
| 18:32.34 | Q-collective | "Gobby is a free software collaborative real-time editor available on Windows and Unix-like platforms. " |
| 18:32.35 | eastwood | ah |
| 18:32.40 | eastwood | i've used this |
| 18:32.45 | thiago | editor of what? |
| 18:32.47 | eastwood | a long time ago |
| 18:32.47 | thiago | text? Images? |
| 18:32.54 | Q-collective | thiago: text |
| 18:32.56 | eastwood | thiago, is kinda |
| 18:33.05 | eastwood | you and another guy are editing the same file |
| 18:33.07 | eastwood | on the fly |
| 18:33.28 | Q-collective | yup |
| 18:33.29 | Q-collective | :) |
| 18:33.38 | eastwood | i cant remember of a similar program for lunix |
| 18:33.42 | eastwood | otherwise i'd already have it |
| 18:34.04 | Q-collective | would be cool if Kword could do that :D |
| 18:34.14 | thiago | would be cool if all KDE apps could |
| 18:34.17 | Q-collective | s/kword/koffice/ |
| 18:34.42 | Q-collective | thiago: true |
| 18:34.43 | Q-collective | :) |
| 18:35.37 | eastwood | aahahahaha |
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| 18:36.05 | eastwood | averick@heavyloader:~/stuff/games/ioquake3$ apt-cache policy gobby |
| 18:36.05 | eastwood | gobby: |
| 18:36.05 | eastwood | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:36.05 | eastwood | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:36.05 | eastwood | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:36.06 | eastwood | <PROTECTED> |
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| 18:36.18 | eastwood | installing it right now |
| 18:36.20 | eastwood | muahaha |
| 18:36.33 | eastwood | i thought it only existed for mac |
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| 18:46.55 | illogic-al | http://www.linuxtoday.com/developer/2006031800826OSCYDV |
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| 19:03.38 | Mr-Roadster | hallo.. |
| 19:03.39 | Mr-Roadster | :D |
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| 19:54.45 | phlux | What do I do with an index.desktop file? |
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| 19:59.27 | Caster | kaffeine seems nice, compared to default mplayer gui |
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| 20:01.41 | kronoz | Caster: check out kmplayer |
| 20:03.53 | Caster | I know |
| 20:03.56 | kronoz | is there anything in konqueror that can do like folders of tabs, like folders of bookmarks but with loaded tabs? i heard about tablets, are they they what i mean? |
| 20:03.59 | Caster | but xine seems better :) |
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| 20:29.16 | Mirrakor | Can I change the desing of just one window? |
| 20:29.38 | pinotree | Mirrakor: ? |
| 20:30.23 | Mirrakor | I have currently a dark-blue desing, but in some situations it's bad; so my question is, can i change the desing for just one application-window? |
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| 20:31.54 | litb | Mirrakor: yes, with command line options |
| 20:32.28 | litb | each KDE app includes support for this option: "--style <style>" |
| 20:32.46 | Mirrakor | well it's the gimp, but I guess it also should work |
| 20:33.08 | pinotree | then there's nothing to do with kde |
| 20:33.18 | litb | no, it shouldn't . that depends on gtk+ ... |
| 20:33.48 | Mirrakor | litb, but it uses the desing i selected in the Kontrol Center |
| 20:34.10 | litb | yes, ur distri probably uses qtcurve ... |
| 20:34.23 | litb | err, gtkqt i meant |
| 20:34.31 | Mirrakor | so in that case it could work? |
| 20:34.39 | litb | or qt-gtk .. :D don't know ... |
| 20:34.44 | Mirrakor | (nothing simpler than trying --style .. why didn't i try it :D |
| 20:35.01 | litb | no, u aren't a C programmer, are you? |
| 20:35.34 | Mirrakor | nope |
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| 20:37.56 | frb-work | can kwin tile windows? |
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| 20:45.26 | eduardonyc | hello |
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| 20:49.16 | Frederick | folks my console has no colours can I have some help? |
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| 20:50.45 | PeterFA | Is there some kind of mod that makes the desktop background all animated? |
| 20:50.51 | PeterFA | I'm going for some trippy effect of sorts. |
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| 21:06.45 | damg | is it possible to move sources to new directories in kdevelop? |
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| 21:10.44 | Heston | frb-work, just a crappy front end to top |
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| 21:11.01 | Heston | frb-work, oh nevermind, i read that wrong |
| 21:11.36 | Set | what is the standard folder name for "launcher" settings? |
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| 21:14.14 | Hokinon | frb-work iirc there are a couple of superKaramba applets that include that facility |
| 21:14.24 | frb-work | I don't want karamba, I can't see my desktop |
| 21:15.02 | Set | what is the standard folder name for "launcher" settings? |
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| 21:18.32 | thiago | Set: what is a launcher setting? |
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| 21:21.20 | r0d | hi for everybody |
| 21:21.29 | Mirrakor | hi r0d |
| 21:21.34 | r0d | where can i find the kde 3.3 headers ? |
| 21:21.48 | thiago | r0d: in your kde 3.3 development packages |
| 21:22.12 | r0d | thiago: i have the limited version of mandriva 2005 (just 3 cd) |
| 21:22.36 | thiago | r0d: I think it had KDE 3.4 already |
| 21:22.44 | Set | what is the standard folder name for kmenu settings? |
| 21:22.54 | thiago | Set: which settings? |
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| 21:23.17 | Set | I modified it and want to restore system default settings. as in, applications available in the kmenu |
| 21:23.32 | thiago | the menu settings are spread all over |
| 21:23.43 | thiago | but a user can only change files in his own home directory |
| 21:23.48 | Set | yes |
| 21:23.53 | Set | and that's what I want to do |
| 21:23.59 | thiago | so your settings may have be in ~/.local/ or ~/.kde |
| 21:24.08 | Set | that is correct |
| 21:24.15 | Set | but I don't want to delete everything |
| 21:24.31 | Set | just the files that concerns what applications are available to kmenu |
| 21:24.34 | thiago | erase ~/.local/share/applications |
| 21:24.54 | thiago | and ~/kde/share/applnk |
| 21:25.01 | Set | I want to keep my kopete and kmail settings |
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| 21:25.43 | thiago | right, they are not kept there |
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| 21:27.15 | Set | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:27.51 | thiago | I did not say ~/.kde/share/apps |
| 21:27.57 | thiago | I said ~/.kde/share/applnk |
| 21:28.19 | r0d | how can i know the version of my installed kde |
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| 21:28.44 | thiago | r0d: Help, About KDE |
| 21:28.46 | Subvertir | If I change my user agent string, will gmail work fully? |
| 21:28.47 | thiago | in any KDE application |
| 21:28.55 | thiago | Subvertir: it might |
| 21:29.07 | thiago | Subvertir: that depends if Google broke it again or not |
| 21:29.08 | Subvertir | I tried out gmail in safari and it worked great, so I was just curious |
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| 21:33.11 | r0d | is kdelibs-develxxxx represents a kde header ? |
| 21:33.33 | thiago | yes, all the kdelibs headers |
| 21:33.41 | pinotree | and the libtool files |
| 21:34.28 | DexterF | hi. tried to write a 4.1GB iso to dvd with k3b, says "file too large". initially only saw that file as 4.0GB. k3b oops or growisofs issue? |
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| 21:38.57 | zerohero | i recently switched from gnome to kde, and now usb-devices aren't auto-detected. i'm using debian testing and kde 3.5.3 |
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| 21:39.52 | zerohero | all i want is to be able to use my mp3-player and camera as a user and not as root |
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| 21:40.10 | zerohero | preferably with automount when plugin it in |
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| 21:41.25 | DexterF | deb/testing should handle usb devs with hal and pmount |
| 21:41.42 | zerohero | DexterF: ok? i have that installed |
| 21:41.43 | DexterF | hmm, gnome and pmount.. not sure. maybe check if pmount is installed? |
| 21:42.19 | DexterF | you do? hm, no idea then, sorry. maybe #debian? |
| 21:42.34 | zerohero | DexterF: no answer in #debian, i'll try again |
| 21:42.57 | zerohero | the sad part is that usb was automounted with gnome |
| 21:43.07 | zerohero | and now with kde they're not |
| 21:43.30 | DexterF | well, it should. but usb mounting in general is rather a udev thing |
| 21:43.54 | DexterF | at least from what I figure |
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| 21:50.07 | Roey | hi |
| 21:50.13 | Roey | what does Linking do for split-window Konqueror? |
| 21:51.23 | frb-work | linking? |
| 21:51.31 | Roey | righgt |
| 21:51.39 | Roey | that little checkbox on the bottom-right corner of every pane |
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| 21:54.15 | frb-work | Roey: I see |
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| 21:54.35 | frb-work | Roey: if you activate that on 2 panes, they take the same actions |
| 21:55.01 | frb-work | yes, perfect |
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| 21:55.23 | frb-work | say I'm in /media/data and I have remote-server:/media/data, I link them then when I change dirs and stuff, they both do it |
| 21:55.47 | frb-work | Roey: understand? |
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| 21:59.23 | thechris | is there a "cedega fix" for kde? |
| 21:59.47 | thechris | after running cedega, any kde app currently running will not exit cleanly. |
| 22:00.04 | thechris | and things start to break |
| 22:00.14 | eastwood | no problems here |
| 22:00.18 | eastwood | kde 3.5.3 |
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| 22:01.31 | matje | Hi, how can I stop kde from starting on :0.1 too? I only want it on :0.0 |
| 22:02.17 | qupada | matje: have a look at kdmrc with a text editor. you might need to use locate to find it, every distro keeps it somewhere different |
| 22:02.47 | matje | I don't use kdm |
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| 22:03.40 | qupada | in that case i'd be inclined to say there isn't much you can do about it |
| 22:04.21 | matje | how would using kdm help it? |
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| 22:04.49 | qupada | kdm has lots of options |
| 22:07.49 | eastwood | matje, tried using kdm ? |
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| 22:10.05 | matje | no eastwood |
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| 22:14.55 | thechris | logout problems |
| 22:15.03 | thechris | why would cedega cause issues with kwin and kicker |
| 22:15.24 | eastwood | matje, that could be a point to start with |
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| 22:15.53 | matje | eastwood: I don't see why, I don't want to use a graphical login |
| 22:16.25 | r0d_ | hi |
| 22:16.38 | eastwood | matje, try in #xorg then |
| 22:17.00 | r0d_ | i find that i have libkdecore4-devel installed |
| 22:17.05 | matje | it is clearly a kde problem |
| 22:17.19 | matje | exporting KDE_MULTIHEAD=false should solve the problem, but it doesn't |
| 22:17.39 | r0d_ | but, i can't find .h files |
| 22:17.39 | r0d_ | just .la et .so |
| 22:17.39 | r0d_ | files |
| 22:17.40 | eastwood | r0d, so? you happy for having it? |
| 22:17.41 | matje | I'm placing that in various places, and some programs don't start on the two screens anymore |
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| 22:22.20 | r0d | sorry, i lost connection |
| 22:22.26 | r0d | so.. |
| 22:22.58 | r0d | i'd like to compile a program, but when i type the usual command "./configure" |
| 22:23.07 | r0d | it report me an error : |
| 22:23.11 | r0d | checking for KDE... configure: error: |
| 22:23.11 | r0d | in the prefix, you've chosen, are no KDE headers installed. This will fail. |
| 22:23.11 | r0d | So, check this please and use another prefix! |
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| 22:23.30 | Renze | r0d: have you tried ./configure --prefix=`kde-config --prefix` |
| 22:23.40 | r0d | i tried it |
| 22:23.55 | r0d | the problem is not solved |
| 22:24.19 | r0d | i have libkdecore4-devel installed |
| 22:24.30 | Renze | r0d: then I suggest you talk to the person responsible for the packages for your distro |
| 22:26.12 | r0d | really, i do not think that it's the problem of the package |
| 22:26.16 | r0d | i am a newbie |
| 22:26.30 | r0d | i think there are some others problems |
| 22:27.07 | Renze | you haven't told us your distro yet |
| 22:27.17 | r0d | mandriva 2005 limited edition |
| 22:27.22 | r0d | 3 cd |
| 22:27.44 | r0d | by the way, why i can't find the ".h" files |
| 22:27.47 | Renze | sorry, can't help you there... my distro doesn't even use RPMs :) |
| 22:28.14 | frb-work | wait, libkdecore4? |
| 22:28.22 | frb-work | is mandriva on crack? |
| 22:28.29 | Renze | r0d: I have no idea why you can't find the .h files... I don't know how your distro packages kde :) |
| 22:28.30 | frb-work | (Yes, I know it is, but in this case....) |
| 22:29.03 | r0d | what's mean "is mandriva on crack" ? |
| 22:29.26 | frb-work | well, on my system I have kdelibs3-3.5.3 |
| 22:29.34 | frb-work | because well, it's version 3 |
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| 22:30.08 | frb-work | you said you have kdecore4 which to me says you isntalled a kde4 pacakge, but mandriva might be crazy |
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| 22:30.17 | frb-work | myu answer is to ask your distro channel |
| 22:30.33 | r0d | ok, i'all ask |
| 22:30.43 | hydrogen | no, its not a kde4 package |
| 22:30.45 | hydrogen | its their naming scheme |
| 22:30.51 | frb-work | so yes, they are on crack |
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| 22:33.08 | r0d | frb-work: i am sure that they'll tell me to go and ask in the #kde channel |
| 22:33.32 | frb-work | you won't know till you try |
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| 22:36.19 | nkryptr_25 | anyone able to help me with kbfx? as in how do i load a new theme? :) |
| 22:36.47 | eastwood | nkryptr_25, download the package |
| 22:36.55 | eastwood | and install it using kcontrol |
| 22:37.32 | nkryptr_25 | eastwood: i am using mandriva and installed the mandriva rpm of kbfx |
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| 22:38.28 | nkryptr_25 | eastwood: where in kcontrol do i look? |
| 22:38.37 | eastwood | styles |
| 22:38.43 | eastwood | under appearence |
| 22:38.57 | eastwood | sorry i dont use mandriva for 6y now... |
| 22:39.29 | oneforall | hi was just noticing with 3.5.3 that the app.desktop needs the full path to the icons in /usr/share/pixmaps/ now |
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| 22:41.33 | nkryptr_25 | eastwood: style, under Look&feel? it dosent have any control for kbfx themes |
| 22:42.03 | eastwood | nkryptr_25, i dunno i didnt make the package |
| 22:42.12 | eastwood | why dontcha get it from kdelook |
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| 22:47.48 | logistic | HELLO? |
| 22:48.03 | Roey | HI! |
| 22:48.15 | eastwood | hi? |
| 22:48.19 | Roey | no, not hi? |
| 22:48.20 | Roey | HI! |
| 22:48.22 | logistic | SOME GIRL |
| 22:48.28 | Roey | NOT HERE |
| 22:48.36 | logistic | JUST GUYS HERE? |
| 22:48.39 | pinotree | logistic: ????? |
| 22:48.44 | eastwood | gays? nah |
| 22:48.49 | Roey | thx M4r10`!!!1 but SexxxyPr1nc3ssPe4ch is on anohter s3rver!!!1 j/k!!!1 l0lz0rz!!!11!1 cya l8ter. |
| 22:48.50 | Renze | please stop shouting |
| 22:48.51 | eastwood | there're straight too |
| 22:48.52 | qupada | ZOMGWTF caps lock |
| 22:49.30 | logistic | PINOTREE R U A GUY OR A GIRL? |
| 22:49.36 | Roey | logistic: yes, it's just guys, sometimes we congregate in small enclosed spaces. |
| 22:49.43 | Roey | logistic: she's a girl |
| 22:49.47 | Roey | she's 22, |
| 22:49.48 | logistic | AND YOU FUCK? |
| 22:49.50 | Roey | has red hair and blue eyes |
| 22:49.52 | Roey | me? |
| 22:49.55 | Roey | I'm a girl too |
| 22:50.04 | *** mode/#kde [+o pinotree] by ChanServ |
| 22:50.07 | eastwood | Im jessica |
| 22:50.08 | pinotree | *cough* |
| 22:50.11 | Renze | ah, the depths of human stupidity |
| 22:50.14 | logistic | HEY ROEY THERE IS A MAN FOR YOU! ME"!!! |
| 22:50.15 | Roey | I'm a tall brunette with big..um..glasses |
| 22:50.19 | Roey | ahhh :) |
| 22:50.20 | Roey | nice |
| 22:50.27 | pinotree | Roey: please ignore him |
| 22:50.28 | logistic | WHERE U FROM |
| 22:50.29 | Roey | logistic: I just need your credit card and we'll process your order |
| 22:50.43 | Roey | logistic: Israel |
| 22:50.48 | logistic | COOL |
| 22:50.58 | Roey | logistic: you like Israel? |
| 22:51.03 | logistic | YEAH |
| 22:51.10 | logistic | ITS VERY HOLLY |
| 22:51.23 | logistic | WHATEVER IS NICE |
| 22:51.34 | *** kick/#kde [logistic!n=pino@kde/developer/pino] by pinotree (User terminated!) |
| 22:51.38 | Roey | oh |
| 22:51.39 | Renze | yay! |
| 22:51.41 | Roey | I see I was right |
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| 22:51.51 | Roey | \(^-^)/ |
| 22:51.54 | logistic | CHILL OUT PINO TREEE |
| 22:52.01 | Renze | logistic: go away |
| 22:52.06 | *** mode/#kde [+b logistic!*@*] by pinotree |
| 22:52.09 | *** kick/#kde [logistic!n=pino@kde/developer/pino] by pinotree (User terminated!) |
| 22:52.20 | Roey | oh my god he'll /msg me |
| 22:52.25 | Roey | what was I thinking |
| 22:52.25 | pinotree | he won't be back easily now... |
| 22:52.40 | Renze | Roey: you brought this on yourself :P |
| 22:52.50 | Roey | well, heh, yeah |
| 22:52.51 | Roey | :) |
| 22:53.17 | pinotree | eastwood: not for now, bans on ip are dangerous |
| 22:53.24 | *** mode/#kde [-o pinotree] by pinotree |
| 22:53.36 | Roey | *cough* |
| 22:53.38 | Roey | GNOME GNOME GNOME GNOME |
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| 22:54.01 | Roey | pinotree: what happened with Italy in the end with the mondeal? |
| 22:54.10 | Roey | aside from besting the United States |
| 22:54.16 | pinotree | "mondeal"? |
| 22:54.20 | Roey | soccer? |
| 22:54.23 | pinotree | ah |
| 22:54.28 | Renze | football |
| 22:54.32 | pinotree | it's not ended, yet... |
| 22:54.34 | Roey | ah |
| 22:54.43 | Roey | well how does Italy stand currently? |
| 22:54.45 | Roey | Renze: hehe |
| 22:54.54 | qupada | Roey: that's quite the tounge twister, saying gnome over and over really fast |
| 22:54.57 | mobtek | australia will hopefully destroy italy :P |
| 22:55.01 | pinotree | we've passed the group |
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| 22:55.15 | mobtek | but whatever, au getting this far is awesome ;) |
| 22:55.19 | pinotree | mobtek: :-þ |
| 22:55.21 | mobtek | whois pinotree |
| 22:55.25 | pinotree | me |
| 22:55.32 | Renze | him |
| 22:55.37 | mobtek | kekek |
| 22:55.40 | s3cur17y | Does anyone know how to use kbfx? |
| 22:56.04 | Renze | s3cur17y: you install it, you add it to your panel |
| 22:56.09 | mobtek | pinotree: next tuesday we can yell at each other through the channel at half time ok :) |
| 22:56.26 | Roey | qupada: hahaha |
| 22:56.30 | pinotree | mobtek: it's only a sport, be happy ;) |
| 22:56.32 | Roey | pinotree: congrats!! |
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| 22:56.35 | mobtek | pinotree: oh I am |
| 22:56.37 | Renze | s3cur17y: I don't use it though |
| 22:56.42 | _logistic_ | ROEY? |
| 22:56.42 | pinotree | mobtek: :) |
| 22:56.45 | s3cur17y | Cool thanks |
| 22:57.02 | *** mode/#kde [+o pinotree] by ChanServ |
| 22:57.06 | mobtek | croatia unfortunely played really dirty, two handballs from the same player |
| 22:57.12 | mobtek | I couldn't believe it |
| 22:57.15 | Renze | it's baaaaaack! |
| 22:57.23 | err0r^ | mobtek: m2 ;) |
| 22:57.24 | Roey | Do trolls use tor? |
| 22:57.32 | Roey | oh |
| 22:57.33 | Roey | ohohohohoh |
| 22:57.47 | mobtek | err0r^: m2? |
| 22:57.49 | Roey | I found abug I found a bug |
| 22:57.52 | Roey | it's in KFM |
| 22:58.07 | Roey | and I reproduced it twice |
| 22:58.14 | err0r^ | <mobtek> I couldn't believe it << me too |
| 22:58.19 | Set | now reproduce it on another puter |
| 22:58.22 | mobtek | hehe |
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| 22:58.52 | mobtek | err0r^: what was their coach telling them, or is that player just stupid? |
| 22:58.52 | Roey | it happens when you filter (with ctrl+f) and then select multiple items and drag them to another direcotry (in another pane, in a split-paned Konqi window). It'll only move the first item of the selection. |
| 22:59.22 | mobtek | I wish we could keep Hiddink as our coach, he's done wonders with the Socceroos |
| 22:59.23 | err0r^ | dont know...but i think that the player was stupid ;) |
| 22:59.29 | mobtek | hehe yeah |
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| 22:59.50 | *** kick/#kde [_logistic_!n=pino@kde/developer/pino] by pinotree (User terminated!) |
| 23:00.10 | Renze | pinotree: enjoying your single player game of lamerball? :D |
| 23:00.18 | pinotree | not again, not again... |
| 23:00.38 | err0r^ | hmm i hope that germany will play good at the next game ;) |
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| 23:01.05 | pinotree | german - swedish : going to be a nice game |
| 23:01.09 | err0r^ | ;) |
| 23:01.11 | err0r^ | << german |
| 23:01.12 | err0r^ | ^ |
| 23:01.15 | Roey | ahhhhhhh |
| 23:01.15 | Roey | toll |
| 23:01.18 | pinotree | gongrats :) |
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| 23:01.23 | sharket | hello |
| 23:01.32 | Roey | err0r^: kannstu Schwedischer Deutsch? |
| 23:01.35 | sharket | please |
| 23:01.37 | pinotree | hello sharket |
| 23:01.46 | sharket | i try to run kde... |
| 23:01.50 | err0r^ | Roey: schwedischer deutsch? wie jetzt? |
| 23:01.54 | sharket | it tooks ages compiling |
| 23:02.01 | sharket | and now, i try to start it |
| 23:02.05 | err0r^ | sharket: startkde? |
| 23:02.06 | sharket | and got this error |
| 23:02.09 | mobtek | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:02.16 | sharket | ./etc/init.d/xdm start |
| 23:02.17 | sharket | taht |
| 23:02.30 | eastwood | why compiling when ther're binaries avaiable |
| 23:02.32 | eastwood | .. |
| 23:02.40 | err0r^ | ^^ |
| 23:02.44 | pinotree | sharket: that's not an error, it's a command... |
| 23:02.49 | eastwood | sharket, tried kdm? |
| 23:02.56 | err0r^ | sharket: just try "startkde" |
| 23:02.59 | Roey | err0r^: Deutsch von Schwedia? |
| 23:02.59 | sharket | .HOME/SHARK/.DCOPSERVER_LOCALHOST__O |
| 23:03.01 | sharket | it starts |
| 23:03.04 | err0r^ | Roey: deutsch |
| 23:03.06 | sharket | but it staks there |
| 23:03.07 | Roey | err0r^: ah |
| 23:03.22 | Roey | err0r^: ah, nein, *swedish* |
| 23:03.35 | Roey | kannstu swedisch? |
| 23:03.39 | err0r^ | Roey: nee ;) |
| 23:03.43 | Roey | warum? |
| 23:03.55 | sharket | any idea ? |
| 23:03.58 | err0r^ | Roey: weil ich nur deutsch&englisch kann ^^ |
| 23:04.01 | Roey | ich habe gedenkt [that] zey-are-eh-close-together |
| 23:04.08 | err0r^ | sharket: hm install the binary package |
| 23:04.08 | Roey | ahhhhhh |
| 23:04.16 | PhilRod | sharket: to start kde, edit ~/.xinitrc and add the line "exec startkde". Then run the command "startx" |
| 23:04.20 | Roey | man my Gemran sucks |
| 23:04.21 | Roey | :) |
| 23:04.25 | Roey | my German too |
| 23:04.26 | Roey | :( |
| 23:04.28 | sharket | PhilRod it starts |
| 23:04.31 | err0r^ | Roey: ;) |
| 23:04.37 | sharket | but it stops thre |
| 23:04.41 | sharket | when i try to login |
| 23:04.45 | err0r^ | hmm and my english is not so good... ;) |
| 23:04.46 | sharket | in the first icon... |
| 23:04.50 | sharket | .HOME/SHARK/.DCOPSERVER_LOCALHOST__O |
| 23:04.52 | Roey | err0r^: tell ya what, there's this chan called #kanotix. All they do there is speak German. It's like they invented a whole channel JUST to speak German. |
| 23:04.52 | s3cur17y | The desktop entry file /usr/share/applications/kde/kbfxconfig.desktop has no Type=... entry. |
| 23:05.52 | err0r^ | ah nice Roey :) |
| 23:06.09 | sharket | please |
| 23:06.11 | sharket | any idea ? |
| 23:06.43 | pinotree | sharket: try removing ~/.DCOP* |
| 23:07.16 | err0r^ | sharket: has you try "startkde"? |
| 23:07.30 | sharket | no |
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| 23:07.52 | sharket | i have no startkde |
| 23:07.56 | sharket | anywhere |
| 23:08.46 | oneforall | have I got somehing miss configed with kde 3.5.3 for it to not find the icons in /usr/share/pixmps with out the full path in the app.desktop? |
| 23:08.58 | stoned | transluceny is cool |
| 23:09.02 | stoned | and so if fading in and out |
| 23:09.31 | pinotree | oneforall: you mean the Icon= entry? |
| 23:09.32 | stoned | I set it so that now its a 10 speed fade in/out and no shadows, but only the inactive application fades to 10% transparency |
| 23:09.35 | stoned | its cool hehe |
| 23:09.38 | oneforall | yup |
| 23:09.49 | pinotree | oneforall: iirc the icon it's searched into an icon theme |
| 23:10.05 | pinotree | so, /usr/share/icons/<theme>/ |
| 23:10.13 | oneforall | 3.5.1 they showed then 3.5.2 and 3.5.3 I notice they don't in K>etc |
| 23:10.16 | pinotree | in the app section of a theme |
| 23:10.58 | pinotree | not sure about the /usr/share/pixmap, iirc the specs say the icon should be read from the icontheme |
| 23:11.10 | oneforall | no just the apps that put the icons in /usr/share/pixmaps |
| 23:11.23 | Renze | non-KDE apps |
| 23:11.27 | oneforall | for example gnumeric |
| 23:11.29 | oneforall | yes |
| 23:11.46 | oneforall | some versions of kde would find them and some don't |
| 23:12.22 | eastwood | what's "focus stealing prevention level" |
| 23:12.25 | s3cur17y | Does anyone use kbfx here? |
| 23:12.28 | oneforall | and some doing the menu update would find non kde apps etc and the icons ther |
| 23:12.35 | eastwood | i mean what does it affect? |
| 23:13.06 | Renze | oneforall: 3.5.3 here and all my non-KDE apps have icons in the kmenu |
| 23:13.46 | oneforall | you have gnumeric ? |
| 23:14.04 | eastwood | apt-get install menu menu-xdg |
| 23:14.29 | s3cur17y | Could someone who uses kbfx please open /usr/share/application/kde/kbfxconfig.desktop and tell me what it says for 'Type=' |
| 23:14.37 | Renze | no, but I have inkscape, and ekiga, and skype... all of which fetch their icons from /usr/share/pixmaps |
| 23:15.03 | sharket | pinotree, sharket: try removing ~/.DCOP* |
| 23:15.05 | sharket | from where |
| 23:15.13 | pinotree | ~ is your home |
| 23:15.19 | oneforall | mplayers icon isn't showing but there was times it did on other versions . checked and the mplayer.desktop is stilll the same in all the other packages I have compiled |
| 23:15.21 | sharket | ah ok |
| 23:15.22 | sharket | thx |
| 23:15.35 | oneforall | no path but its in that pixmaps dir |
| 23:15.39 | Renze | oneforall: mplayer's icon shows here |
| 23:16.05 | oneforall | Renze ok can you se if the mplayer.desktop has the ful path thanks |
| 23:16.46 | Renze | oneforall: nope... just Icon=mplayer.xpm |
| 23:17.12 | s3cur17y | Renze, do you use kbfx? |
| 23:17.17 | Renze | s3cur17y: no |
| 23:17.21 | s3cur17y | hmmm |
| 23:17.29 | s3cur17y | I need to find someone that does |
| 23:17.57 | stoned | hey |
| 23:18.01 | stoned | anyone wanna see my desktop |
| 23:18.09 | stoned | http://bungs.dontexist.com/kde.jpg |
| 23:18.13 | stoned | kde RULES! |
| 23:18.38 | sharket | lol |
| 23:18.41 | sharket | it worked |
| 23:18.44 | sharket | pinotree u are god |
| 23:18.44 | sharket | :D |
| 23:19.04 | pinotree | nah, still a poor human, only |
| 23:19.27 | oneforall | hmm when an app gets installed,no matter the distro is kde using something to refresh(check) for new apps |
| 23:19.29 | s3cur17y | pinotree, do you use kbfx |
| 23:19.34 | eastwood | stoned, wanna see mine? |
| 23:19.55 | oneforall | with out you manually using that menu update tool |
| 23:19.57 | pinotree | s3cur17y: no, sorry |
| 23:19.59 | err0r^ | hmm i have a problem with kde and xgl |
| 23:20.04 | Renze | oneforall: that is kbuildsycoca running to update config cache |
| 23:20.20 | s3cur17y | Does anyone use kbfx here? |
| 23:20.21 | err0r^ | is works perfect..but if i minimized a window..then i cant see it in the taskbar... |
| 23:20.25 | oneforall | II've allways wondered how when that desktop file is added kde knows it there) |
| 23:20.36 | stoned | eastwood, yes |
| 23:20.43 | s3cur17y | err0r^: i use 3ddesktop |
| 23:20.45 | Renze | oneforall: it monitors for changes to the directories |
| 23:20.58 | err0r^ | its like xgl? |
| 23:21.04 | s3cur17y | yes |
| 23:21.04 | Renze | no, it's not |
| 23:21.09 | err0r^ | ^^ |
| 23:21.38 | Renze | err0r^: 3ddesktop is just an opengl pager... it is nothing like xgl |
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| 23:21.42 | oneforall | ah ok maybe I'll just do a upgradepkg -reinstall *tgz . thing that one freeze up I had from my dvdburner might have corrupted it |
| 23:21.45 | err0r^ | i dont know ..if its a problem by kde or by xgl..that i cant see the minimized windows.. |
| 23:21.51 | oneforall | thing/think |
| 23:21.52 | err0r^ | Renze: oay |
| 23:22.25 | oneforall | either that or pat needs to add a new option to the package at compile time :D |
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| 23:24.24 | eastwood | stoned, this is my desktop |
| 23:24.27 | StyXman | what was the mind mapping app called? |
| 23:24.32 | stoned | where? |
| 23:24.37 | eastwood | http://geeks.planetaclix.pt/nukezone/pictures/nz.png |
| 23:24.45 | Renze | StyXman: kdissert? |
| 23:24.59 | StyXman | Renze: *that* one, tx |
| 23:25.05 | Renze | np |
| 23:25.27 | err0r^ | hm i have a question to amsn...can i use amsn with my cam? |
| 23:25.33 | s3cur17y | eastwood: do you have a D3 Icon? |
| 23:25.34 | eastwood | y |
| 23:25.40 | Renze | err0r^: amsn is not a kde app |
| 23:25.54 | s3cur17y | because I have D3 installed on nix... |
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| 23:26.05 | s3cur17y | I would like to have a D3 icon for it... |
| 23:26.09 | eastwood | s3cur17y, i dont think so |
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| 23:26.14 | eastwood | otherwise i'd know it |
| 23:26.17 | eastwood | what does it do |
| 23:26.23 | eastwood | stoned, liked it? |
| 23:26.35 | oneforall | accually I did abiword and it found that one . will check and see if it has full path |
| 23:26.47 | stoned | where is it? |
| 23:26.51 | stoned | I can't see the link |
| 23:26.54 | stoned | oh its way up there |
| 23:26.55 | stoned | hold on |
| 23:27.02 | eastwood | <eastwood> http://geeks.planetaclix.pt/nukezone/pictures/nz.png |
| 23:27.08 | eastwood | i dont wanna show off |
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| 23:27.12 | FreshPrince | hi guys |
| 23:27.15 | eastwood | but i find it pretty cool |
| 23:27.15 | stoned | whoah holy hell |
| 23:27.24 | FreshPrince | i have installed kdebase.. but i havent the SuperKaramba .. why that? |
| 23:27.39 | stoned | thats man |
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| 23:27.53 | eastwood | FreshPrince, apt-get install superkaramba |
| 23:27.56 | stoned | I couldn't live with that desktop, I need mine to be clear of all desktop icons, clean simle and nice looking |
| 23:28.01 | stoned | I am very anal about my fonts too |
| 23:28.02 | oneforall | hmm that one does. have to find one that doesn't here :0 |
| 23:28.05 | FreshPrince | eastwood, apt-get? :) |
| 23:28.10 | stoned | eastwood, I run a 132 dpi :) |
| 23:28.23 | StyXman | FreshPrince: compiled or from distro? |
| 23:28.24 | stoned | FreshPrince, I love you |
| 23:28.30 | FreshPrince | lol |
| 23:28.32 | eastwood | s3cur17y, whads d3? |
| 23:28.36 | stoned | you're one funny lil black dude |
| 23:28.37 | stoned | :D |
| 23:28.46 | FreshPrince | StyXman, i have installet with pacman under archlinux |
| 23:28.53 | s3cur17y | Doom3 |
| 23:28.59 | stoned | now all grown up but meh. I liked that show man, it always had hot hot hot girls on it |
| 23:29.20 | num00 | does anyone know where this error could come from? Can't write inquiry mode for hci0: Input/output error (5) |
| 23:29.26 | StyXman | FreshPrince: which version did it install? |
| 23:29.46 | eastwood | ah, yeah i do why ? |
| 23:30.02 | eastwood | but the theme no |
| 23:30.07 | eastwood | is it cool? |
| 23:30.19 | eastwood | the 1 i have now is nuvoX |
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| 23:30.29 | oneforall | ouch I see why audacity isn't working. AudacityLogo48x48.png they forgot to take out the 48x48 . but it has full path too |
| 23:30.36 | FreshPrince | StyXman, kdebase 3.5.2-2 |
| 23:30.39 | FreshPrince | ok found it |
| 23:30.55 | pinotree | FreshPrince: superkaramba is in kdeutils |
| 23:31.02 | pinotree | not in kdebase |
| 23:31.41 | oneforall | blender works and has no path |
| 23:32.20 | err0r^ | gn8 |
| 23:37.22 | oneforall | kbuildsycoca this part of cron or that in like /etc/profile.d/kde.sh or csh |
| 23:38.05 | oneforall | oh those are just to set the kde paths |
| 23:38.12 | Renze | no, it's not launched by cron, it's launched by KDE when it detects changes to certain directories |
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| 23:40.44 | oneforall | ah like a deamon |
| 23:40.50 | Renze | not quite |
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| 23:42.27 | oneforall | knotify |
| 23:42.41 | Renze | no, that is for system notifications |
| 23:44.20 | oneforall | kdeinit dcopserver startkde dcopserver klauncher kded kwrapper ksmserver kwin kdesktop kicker kaccess etc some I know aren't whats controling that :) |
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| 23:47.25 | FreshPrince | does kde has only superkaramba? |
| 23:47.28 | FreshPrince | thats buggy.. :/ |
| 23:47.54 | Renze | seems to work well here |
| 23:48.51 | FreshPrince | can i see your screnshot? |
| 23:49.15 | Renze | I'm not using superkaramba right now |
| 23:50.23 | eastwood | FreshPrince, it has karamba |
| 23:50.36 | eastwood | im using superkaramba |
| 23:51.18 | FreshPrince | eastwood, can i see your screenshot? |
| 23:51.40 | eastwood | FreshPrince, http://geeks.planetaclix.pt/nukezone/pictures/nz.png |
| 23:51.46 | eastwood | the systeminfo up there |
| 23:51.54 | eastwood | that all i use from it |
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| 23:53.06 | FreshPrince | realy niced |
| 23:53.08 | FreshPrince | *nice |
| 23:53.41 | eastwood | what? |
| 23:54.01 | FreshPrince | your screenshot |
| 23:54.03 | FreshPrince | :) |
| 23:54.04 | eastwood | ty |
| 23:54.07 | FreshPrince | np |
| 23:54.31 | eastwood | i have a different icon set now |
