| 00:02.00 | qupada | BlackBsd: even better go to linuxprinting.org and download the ppd for your specific printer. saves installing them for 50,000 printers you don't have |
| 00:03.53 | BlackBsd | qupada, my gentoo had my driver in its package system |
| 00:03.58 | BlackBsd | i installed that.. |
| 00:04.13 | BlackBsd | i guess i can just edit printers.conf |
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| 00:04.49 | BlackBsd | is the driver line the "DeviceURI hp:/usb/photosmart_7350?serial=MY2AE441DY5M" |
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| 00:12.59 | Chamuco | true karma comes back |
| 00:13.09 | Chamuco | have agood one |
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| 00:14.32 | Presently42 | Hello. I should like to know what the wireless signal strength indicator which can be placed on the panel is called. |
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| 00:55.11 | soundgate | im on suse 10.1 how do I update my kde? |
| 00:58.13 | Renze | ask in #suse. kde is only released as source. distro packages are up to the distro |
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| 01:04.46 | MetaMorfoziS | joccak al 1:30 mulva kelek |
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| 01:09.42 | Renze | they must have it set for only registered users... maybe they have a spambot problem |
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| 01:33.53 | jn | hola |
| 01:34.30 | jn | im having problems with knetworkmanager, it is not finding any wireless networks.. i am using the wifi now, as configured in network-admin + some lines added for wpa |
| 01:34.45 | jn | i have the same problem with network-manager-gnome.. it doesnt find the networks |
| 01:35.07 | Renze | so it's not a KDE issue then? |
| 01:35.35 | jn | knetworkmanager is for KDE is it not. i figured i would find some users here. being this is a KDE channel. |
| 01:36.04 | jn | im not using gnome if thats what you are getting at. |
| 01:36.07 | Renze | yes, knetworkmanager is for kde, but if network-manager-gnome is also not finding the networks, the problem is much lower down |
| 01:36.38 | Renze | knetworkmanager is just a front end to the normal system tools |
| 01:36.39 | Sutoka | both knetworkmanager and network-manager-gnome rely on networkmanager (a SuSE program) |
| 01:36.44 | jn | like i said, i am not using gnome, i just experienced similar problems in the past with gnome and network-manager-gnome |
| 01:37.08 | Sutoka | so sounds like the problem is with NetworkManager or lower (like a driver problem) |
| 01:37.49 | jn | networkmanager? i have never had that package |
| 01:38.43 | jn | you say network-manager-gnome relies on it, but i had network-manager-gnome working at one point and i'm almost positive i did not have "networkmanager (a SuSE program) |
| 01:39.51 | Renze | you're blaming a GUI for something that is a problem in the system... knetworkmanager does not handle network connections, it just provides a GUI for the part that does |
| 01:39.57 | trpr | hrm. i just installed knetworkmanager.. its just a frontend to networkmanager. |
| 01:40.26 | jn | what is networkmanager's package name? |
| 01:40.30 | jn | if i wanted to apt-get |
| 01:40.50 | trpr | network-manager maybe. that might be ubuntu specific |
| 01:40.59 | jn | well actually if i used apt to get knetworkmanager it prolly got networkmanager aswell correcT? |
| 01:41.15 | Renze | no idea, I've never used a debian based distro |
| 01:41.21 | jn | ya, network manager is already newest version. |
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| 01:43.54 | Presently42 | Hello. I should like to know what the wireless signal strength indicator which can be placed on the panel is called. |
| 01:44.40 | Sutoka | Presently42: i don't think thats a part of the base kde |
| 01:44.44 | Renze | Presently42: isn't it part of kwifimanager? |
| 01:45.00 | Presently42 | Sutoka: Rats. |
| 01:45.25 | Presently42 | Renze: Is it? I don't believe so.... I can check, I suppose. |
| 01:45.27 | Sutoka | Presently42: i think Renze is right about it being part of kwifimanager |
| 01:45.29 | trpr | well there is kwifimanager, but imho knetworkmanager kicks arse ;) i don't think either are part of the base? |
| 01:45.43 | Renze | Presently42: I'm guessing... I don't even have a laptop :) |
| 01:46.00 | Presently42 | Aye. Alright. I'll have a look see. Thanks. |
| 01:46.35 | Sutoka | all the wireless network programs still need a good bit of improvement |
| 01:50.36 | Presently42 | I must agree here. |
| 01:50.37 | Sutoka | fortunately wireless is getting more and more attention in linux, so the state of things should being improving soon |
| 01:50.37 | Presently42 | I find, though, that it's Linux in general which still doesn't like it. |
| 01:50.37 | Presently42 | There you have it. |
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| 01:50.38 | neuroe | hello |
| 01:50.38 | BlackBsd | could someone help me out with konqueror.. I used to be able to https://www.franklin.edu/myFranklin before then after a reinstall and kde3.5, i can no longer access this site. |
| 01:50.38 | BlackBsd | it works with firefox. |
| 01:50.38 | trpr | it doesn't help with card makers swapping out the chipset for stuff that isn't compatible :\ |
| 01:50.38 | BlackBsd | and i have tried to set my browser identifications. |
| 01:50.39 | Renze | BlackBsd: I get a "could not connect to" error |
| 01:50.39 | BlackBsd | i get a Could not connect to host www.franklin.edu. |
| 01:50.39 | trpr | buying a pci card for my desktop was close to impossible.. in the end i didn't end up with what i wanted |
| 01:50.39 | Sutoka | BlackBsd: same, it doesn't let me connect (doesn't seem like a browser problem) |
| 01:50.40 | BlackBsd | i can connect with firefox |
| 01:50.40 | Sutoka | it doesn't work in Opera or Konqueror, but it DOES in firefox... odd |
| 01:50.40 | BlackBsd | im running gentoo, and i can connect at work with gentoo on 3.4 |
| 01:50.41 | Sutoka | they're using 3des for the ssl... wonder if that has anything to do with it |
| 01:50.41 | BlackBsd | this site gives me other issues also.. |
| 01:51.01 | BlackBsd | even at work i have to set browser identification for some menus to show up |
| 01:51.32 | Presently42 | My appologies, Renze and Sutoka. It is indeed part of Kwifimanager. Thank you kindly. |
| 01:51.48 | Presently42 | Are some of those words in red? |
| 01:52.11 | Sutoka | yeah i think its the cypher (3des doesn't show up in kcontrol's crypto section, its a patent encumbered cypher i believe) |
| 01:52.20 | Renze | Presently42: no, that's just your auto spell checker :D |
| 01:52.48 | BlackBsd | Sutoka, i can not view the source.. |
| 01:52.54 | Renze | software patents suck |
| 01:53.20 | Sutoka | BlackBsd: since its http_s_, unless your browser and the server can agree on a cypher to use you can't even make a connection |
| 01:53.35 | Presently42 | Renze: Good. I just wanted to make sure. |
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| 01:55.01 | BlackBsd | is there no open source implmentation of 3des |
| 01:55.19 | BlackBsd | and it does work in firefox? |
| 01:55.43 | BlackBsd | i also know that it worked in kde3.4 |
| 01:56.04 | BlackBsd | unless they just switched to that cipher. |
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| 02:05.17 | jn | can someone please help me get knetworkmanager working, it recognizes my wifi card, it just doesnt come up with any networks.. |
| 02:07.54 | trpr | jn-: hrm. thats different from the issue i encountered. i had to remove entries in /etc/network/interfaces before it would detect my card. |
| 02:08.38 | jn- | when it starts up it says NetworkManager is now disconnected |
| 02:09.53 | jn- | and there is a red x on the icon and says disconnected when i put the mouse over it |
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| 02:10.19 | jn- | it it in online mode and wireless is enabled |
| 02:14.49 | trpr | he has no idea. imo the help provided in #ubuntu is provided by noobs for noobs |
| 02:15.45 | jn- | lol |
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| 02:33.54 | andrew_ | I need some help with my themeing of KDE |
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| 02:34.18 | andrew_ | I'm running an applet program super something |
| 02:34.37 | Renze | superkaramba |
| 02:34.40 | andrew_ | and I have a task bar currently that I like better then the KDE task bar |
| 02:34.41 | andrew_ | yes |
| 02:34.55 | andrew_ | so I want to get rid or just hide the KDE task bar all together |
| 02:35.42 | andrew_ | umm so my question is |
| 02:35.48 | andrew_ | can I get rid of the task bar in anyway |
| 02:35.54 | andrew_ | rather then just autohide |
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| 02:42.38 | niter3 | hey guys.... I've installed the newest kde and everything. When trying to configure kopete it just crashes on me |
| 02:42.39 | hub | ryanakca: which book? |
| 02:42.41 | niter3 | gives no error log |
| 02:42.43 | niter3 | error |
| 02:42.47 | niter3 | Anyone have this problem? |
| 02:42.50 | niter3 | This is a brand new install |
| 02:45.13 | ryanakca | hub: http://www.chapters.indigo.ca/books/item/books-978020170353/ http://www.chapters.indigo.ca/books/item/books-978020170073/ |
| 02:45.46 | hub | the stroustrup is not really for learning |
| 02:45.51 | hub | the best reference otherwise |
| 02:46.13 | Renze | niter3: I haven't had this problem. what distro are you using? |
| 02:46.27 | hub | ryanakca: were are you in .ca? |
| 02:46.39 | ryanakca | hub: Kingston, ON |
| 02:46.45 | ryanakca | hub: why? |
| 02:47.00 | hub | oh |
| 02:47.09 | hub | I'm in Hull, QC :-) |
| 02:48.41 | niter3 | gentoo |
| 02:48.42 | niter3 | brb |
| 02:49.00 | ryanakca | hub: :-) |
| 02:49.24 | ryanakca | hub: are any Ottawa chapters having sales soon? |
| 02:49.31 | ryanakca | like this comming weekend? |
| 02:49.36 | hub | ryanakca: no idea |
| 02:50.01 | hub | bah |
| 02:50.13 | hub | buy on amazon.com, you'll pay less |
| 02:51.12 | ryanakca | I'm looking at amazon.ca atm... Accelerated C++: Practical Programming by Example @ 39.95 + 6$S&H = 45$CAD |
| 02:51.24 | ryanakca | I'm hoping to get it... |
| 02:51.29 | ryanakca | bbl, bed |
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| 02:55.36 | badagentx | Kde on my computers dosn't display Japanese right |
| 02:57.15 | andrew_ | so is it possible to remove the task bar with out using a source version of KDE |
| 02:57.35 | badagentx | Yep |
| 02:57.42 | badagentx | I think so |
| 02:58.14 | badagentx | but why just not hide it |
| 02:58.32 | andrew_ | because it bugs me when I scroll over where it is it pops up |
| 02:58.47 | andrew_ | I'm very exact when it comes to making clean themes |
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| 02:59.32 | badagentx | oh you can disable the auto hide and show the hide button |
| 03:00.26 | andrew_ | ???what does that mean |
| 03:01.01 | andrew_ | if I disable the auto hide wont it show |
| 03:01.40 | badagentx | you have to enable the show hide button and then click it |
| 03:01.59 | andrew_ | okay will that hide it completely |
| 03:02.18 | badagentx | except for a little button at one side of your desktop |
| 03:02.47 | andrew_ | oh Nice |
| 03:02.50 | andrew_ | thanks man |
| 03:02.51 | badagentx | In /opt/kde/share/autostart/panel.desktop there is a panel.desktop. Either remove it or add Hidden=true to it might be easier |
| 03:02.52 | andrew_ | that perfect |
| 03:03.02 | andrew_ | no I did it lol |
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| 03:51.01 | shevegen | how do i install new fonts? under "fonts" there is no install font option |
| 03:51.01 | Renze | shevegen: System Administration -> Font Installer |
| 03:51.01 | shevegen | thanks :) |
| 03:51.02 | Renze | no problem |
| 03:51.02 | unity | i've heard that installing too many fonts can severely slow things down |
| 03:51.02 | unity | is this true? |
| 03:51.15 | Renze | no idea... I don't install large numbers of fonts... just the ones I have a use for |
| 03:51.39 | shevegen | just installed libertine fonts, am testing how they look |
| 03:51.45 | unity | does anyone if know if adobe has any professional screen fonts that are like more readable than the bitstream vera's? |
| 03:52.01 | MegaVolt | would be cool to have a random font for every char typed |
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| 03:52.14 | MegaVolt | that would seriously slow things down |
| 03:52.24 | MegaVolt | the reading |
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| 03:54.08 | unity | does konqueror not display anything until all of the html is downloaded? |
| 03:54.38 | unity | it's also not displaying anything until all the images are downloaded |
| 03:54.42 | Renze | unity: no, only bad page design does that |
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| 03:55.54 | unity | cough adobe.com cough |
| 03:56.37 | Renze | like I said, bad page design |
| 03:56.58 | unity | i thought people like adobe.com would be smarter than that |
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| 03:57.04 | Renze | pfffft |
| 03:57.08 | Renze | yeah right |
| 03:57.17 | Renze | corporations aren't smart |
| 03:57.26 | unity | i hate the microsoft.com pages |
| 03:58.04 | shevegen | hey i find their pages quite good compared to other corp sites :) |
| 03:58.38 | unity | well they always crash konqueror here |
| 03:58.50 | unity | and yes, i blame microsoft.com, not konqueror |
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| 03:59.30 | shevegen | ewwww |
| 04:00.15 | unity | and what about those sites that say something like, "your browser is too old! please upgrade to internet explorer!" |
| 04:00.39 | unity | and then you go to windows to use internet explorer and it's even more garbled and messed up than before |
| 04:00.46 | shevegen | oh thats nice of them |
| 04:00.56 | Renze | that is the world according to Bill Gates |
| 04:01.02 | shevegen | i know sites which only have flash, and since i dont use flash, i see nothing except a blocky bar :) |
| 04:01.12 | unity | i thought a good web designer will make sure that their pages are viewable in all standards-compliant browsers |
| 04:01.24 | Renze | IE is not standards compliant |
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| 04:01.33 | unity | it is |
| 04:01.36 | Renze | it still doesn't do PNG transparency |
| 04:01.37 | unity | just compliant to it's own standards |
| 04:01.55 | Renze | ms standards are as useful to me as soiled toilet paper |
| 04:02.15 | unity | haha it doesn't do PNG transparency? wtf? are the guys at MS retards? |
| 04:02.24 | Renze | it is not w3c compliant |
| 04:02.33 | Renze | yes... yes they are |
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| 04:02.57 | Renze | it also doesn't handle css properly |
| 04:03.27 | unity | it also sometimes doesn't handle things like viewing webpages or being opened |
| 04:03.34 | Renze | that too |
| 04:04.12 | Renze | if you've ever done any level of professional web design, you have learned to hate Internet Explorer |
| 04:04.35 | unity | i can't believe windows is the most used os... |
| 04:04.40 | Renze | stuff that works in every other browser on the planet fails in IE |
| 04:04.41 | unity | how did this odd phenomena come to be? |
| 04:04.53 | shevegen | by having no real rivals |
| 04:05.12 | Renze | unity: blackmail on the part of MS to retailers - "sell all your PCs with windows preinstalled, or we will never allow you to sell our products" |
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| 04:05.25 | unity | ah yes and there's that |
| 04:06.28 | unity | and there was another thing where windows and intel worked together so that intel can make more money off high-end processors if windows used up more processing power for no good reason |
| 04:08.03 | shevegen | well |
| 04:08.27 | shevegen | there is plenty of room for good software :) |
| 04:10.18 | unity | if linux played games, it would be over |
| 04:11.02 | shevegen | ya |
| 04:11.03 | unity | someone needs to reverse engineer binaries from windows asd re-implement their functionality in linux to make linux a superset of windows...i have considered doing this |
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| 04:11.40 | Renze | wine ? |
| 04:11.44 | shevegen | my friends using their windows pc, is based ... i would claim at least 75% of the games. (the rest is mostlyoffice stuff like .xls or .doc files... and a bit video and a bit audio) |
| 04:12.24 | Renze | shevegen: don't forget the pr0n |
| 04:12.58 | unity | pr0n is not linux-friendly? |
| 04:13.09 | shevegen | naaah pr0n isnt that much, what you mean, 5 mins a day? thats not much compared to... 12 hours a day for World of Warcraft... okok when they work, its only about 2 hours a day but still;) |
| 04:13.24 | Renze | I didn't say that... was just wondering what percentage it was on his friend's pcs |
| 04:13.24 | unity | i have had a much easier time acquiring and using pr0n on linux |
| 04:14.07 | unity | oh, i thought you were talking about why his friend uses linux |
| 04:14.14 | unity | "75% for the games" |
| 04:14.22 | unity | i mean, why he uses windows |
| 04:14.26 | unity | damn i need to get some sleep |
| 04:14.38 | Renze | sleep is for the tired |
| 04:16.04 | unity | and i am tired |
| 04:16.35 | shevegen | what i found strange about the games is that hollywood happily jumps on the bandwagon and does a picturisation of the game story line.. how cheap can you get to story-writing... :( |
| 04:16.44 | protex_ | Anyone here using Seamonkey? |
| 04:16.56 | Renze | there are no original ideas in hollywood any more |
| 04:17.19 | Renze | seamonkeys? those plankton things you get freeze dried in a packet? |
| 04:17.28 | protex_ | Renze: =o! |
| 04:17.33 | shevegen | i think seamonkey is some mozilla thingy... |
| 04:17.34 | protex_ | Renze: Hehe, I meant Mozilla's suite. |
| 04:17.45 | Renze | no, I use konqueror/kmail/etc |
| 04:18.25 | protex_ | Same here... just trying out the competition |
| 04:18.52 | Renze | it would only be competition if there was money involved... it's just an alternative :D |
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| 04:19.44 | protex_ | True, true. |
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| 05:30.54 | johnnowak | hello everyone! i just installed kde, and have a quick question. i have it set up to use the global menu bar, and i've put all the things i want on the menu bar (application launcher, clock, notifications, etc). I now have this big empty panel left over it won't let me kill. Any ideas? |
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| 05:33.21 | johnnowak | ah, it seems i managed to make it effectively invisible |
| 05:33.23 | johnnowak | good deal |
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| 05:45.37 | niskel | Can someone help me? All my KDE applications are either resolving hosts really slow or timing out. |
| 05:46.08 | benJIman | niskel: perhaps you have a sucky router/ISP that doesn't like IPv6? |
| 05:46.25 | niskel | I have KDE_NO_IPV6=1 |
| 05:46.39 | niskel | is there anyway to see if that has properly been taken into effect? |
| 05:47.06 | Jejem | niskel: look at your /etc/hosts if localhost matches 127.0.0.1 ~ |
| 05:47.12 | niskel | it does |
| 05:48.34 | benJIman | KDE_USE_IPV6 isn't it? |
| 05:49.28 | niskel | I just pulled it out of http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-489520-highlight-kdenoipv6.html |
| 05:49.37 | niskel | and put it into .bashrc |
| 05:49.46 | niskel | but maybe that is not the best place for it |
| 05:50.03 | niskel | I did just recently change routers and ISPs ( I moved) |
| 05:50.41 | niskel | went from a D-Link DI-624 to a Netgear WGR614 |
| 05:51.09 | niskel | but non-KDE apps resolve hosts just fine |
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| 05:55.46 | niskel | no ideas? |
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| 06:33.32 | kimo | Hi, my kwallet is not showing a tray icon! |
| 06:33.56 | benJIman | run kwalletmanager |
| 06:34.04 | kimo | the process is running |
| 06:34.10 | kimo | shows in dcop and ps |
| 06:34.18 | benJIman | close it and start it again then |
| 06:36.50 | kimo | ok ... it's working now ... The reason I looked at this, is that I need kmail to use the wallet! Where do I configure this |
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| 06:38.35 | kimo | any idea how to force kmail to use kwallet |
| 06:41.38 | kimo | bingo got it ... |
| 06:41.41 | kimo | Thanks guys |
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| 07:35.02 | Matias | Hi all. Can someone tell me where to get an install package (.deb?) at ftp://ftp.kde.org ? - it seems there's only packages for suse, arklinux etc |
| 07:35.59 | kendrick | Matias: for what? |
| 07:36.24 | Matias | kendrik: KDE :-) |
| 07:36.30 | kendrick | KDE is more than one packaged ;) |
| 07:36.35 | kendrick | for debian? |
| 07:36.42 | kendrick | or some other .deb-based distro? |
| 07:37.03 | kendrick | you might wanna check the DebianKDE wiki: http://wiki.debian.org/DebianKDE |
| 07:37.06 | Matias | kendrik: well uh... I'm starting from scratch... business card distro of debian... so I have no apps at all, and I want to install by ftp |
| 07:37.07 | kendrick | or ask in #debian-kde |
| 07:37.19 | kendrick | those should help, hopefully :) |
| 07:37.44 | Matias | i'll do that :) |
| 07:37.47 | Matias | thx |
| 07:37.55 | kendrick | good luck! :) |
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| 07:58.22 | DjDarkman | hello ,I want to make a kde qt app ,where can I get reference about it? |
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| 08:07.50 | straw | sigh. i need a style/deco that will make me truly happy |
| 08:08.01 | Renze | straw: make one :D |
| 08:08.26 | Q-collective | yeah, make us all truly happy |
| 08:08.29 | straw | that would require time and effort |
| 08:08.48 | Renze | straw: isn't happiness worth time and effort? |
| 08:08.51 | straw | and i'm lacking the former |
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| 08:25.45 | astal | hi |
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| 08:29.30 | PhilRod | er, hi astal |
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| 08:40.05 | RockMan | ciao |
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| 09:21.20 | nik | hello |
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| 09:22.35 | PhilRod | hi nik |
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| 09:27.07 | bejay | hi! does anyone know if there is a way to close a window in kde via script? |
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| 09:30.34 | PhilRod | bejay: I don't think there is |
| 09:31.13 | eskatos | PhilRod: with dcop calls on kwin maybe |
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| 09:32.50 | PhilRod | eskatos: perhaps, although IIRC kwin doesn't let you handle individual windows via dcop |
| 09:32.58 | pookey | hey all - does anyone know what the status of kwin and xgl is? will it be supported in KDE4 ? |
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| 09:33.41 | Renze | pookey: I've lost count of the number of times that question has been asked in here |
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| 09:34.11 | pookey | Renze: does this mean there's an answer? :) I just tried Xgl and shut if off about 5 minutes later cos I was missing kwin :) |
| 09:34.27 | Ardonik | Aye. In #fluxbox, probably 1/3 of all questions are XGL-related |
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| 09:34.30 | Renze | pookey: kwin in kde4 will have support for xgl/aiglx/whatever else happens to come along |
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| 09:34.35 | Ardonik | Lots of buzz, lots of hype. |
| 09:34.48 | pookey | Renze: *will* or might ? |
| 09:35.00 | Renze | pookey: more than likely |
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| 09:35.32 | Renze | pookey: the only people that know for sure are the developers, and they're not talking much :D |
| 09:35.35 | PhilRod | kwin in trunk already has basic compositing support, so there will be no need for compiz in KDE 4, AFAIK |
| 09:35.52 | PhilRod | one of the old commit digests has some info about it |
| 09:35.57 | pookey | Renze: ah, so htis is very much an unoffical answer ? |
| 09:36.16 | Renze | pookey: you want official answers? find the devs :) |
| 09:37.26 | pookey | perhaps I'll post to the ML |
| 09:37.46 | PhilRod | pookey: http://commit-digest.org/issues/2006-07-09/ |
| 09:38.01 | pookey | PhilRod: fantastic, let me read... |
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| 09:38.46 | PhilRod | hrmph, does KWord need some library that I don't have in order to import .doc files? |
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| 09:43.26 | nik | hello |
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| 09:44.03 | nik | Control Center -> System Admin. -> Login Manager -> Tab: Convenience ...what this 'Persistent' in the "Enable Auto-Login" area? |
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| 09:54.47 | pookey | anyone know who 'lunakl' is ? |
| 09:55.02 | PhilRod | lubos lunak, the kwin maintainer |
| 09:55.25 | pookey | you know, you said that *just* as I found it on google |
| 09:55.31 | pookey | it wasn't being very helpful on that :) |
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| 10:30.24 | seraphin_ | hello |
| 10:30.41 | seraphin_ | i have a question |
| 10:30.48 | eastwood | good 4 u |
| 10:30.54 | seraphin_ | im compiling now kde 3.5.4 (from emerge) |
| 10:31.04 | seraphin_ | im using now qt3 |
| 10:31.17 | seraphin_ | if i compile (emerge) qt4 after kde |
| 10:31.29 | seraphin_ | is there a way the new kde use the new qt4? |
| 10:32.00 | eastwood | yeah, by recompiling imo |
| 10:32.11 | seraphin_ | or i will have to first compile qt4 and then recompiling kde? |
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| 10:32.48 | eastwood | netcabo... |
| 10:32.57 | eastwood | seraphin_, you gotta recompile kde again |
| 10:32.59 | seraphin_ | damn, so i have to stop kde compilation and start compiling qt? |
| 10:33.07 | seraphin_ | fsck :/ |
| 10:33.29 | eastwood | that's why i prefer binaries... |
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| 10:36.36 | pookey | PhilRod: thanks , I'm outta here |
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| 10:58.11 | PhilRod | seraphin_: KDE 3 cannot use Qt 4 |
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| 11:00.54 | seraphin_ | well... ok... |
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| 11:39.28 | estel | hi |
| 11:39.46 | estel | where does kde save the default printer? |
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| 11:43.56 | shiznix | ~/.kde/share/config/kdeprintrc i think |
| 11:44.05 | shiznix | grep -ri printer ~/.kde/share/config/ |
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| 11:46.52 | estel | yes, but where is the setting what printer the default printer is? |
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| 11:52.05 | estel | ~/.lpoption |
| 11:52.09 | estel | ay! |
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| 12:23.23 | Bittin | Hoi |
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| 12:23.47 | metalfan_ | hi |
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| 12:24.41 | PhilRod | hi Bittin, metalfan_ |
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| 12:25.29 | metalfan_ | just finished a kdebase-startkde build and installed konsole. konsole doesn't display the vertical bar character while reading "man Getopt::Long" - it works on the normal ttys...since this is a fres kde 3.5.2 installation i havent changed much |
| 12:25.34 | metalfan_ | any ideas? |
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| 12:26.19 | ErenTurkay | hi all |
| 12:26.23 | PhilRod | metalfan_: screenshot? |
| 12:26.27 | PhilRod | hi ErenTurkay |
| 12:26.29 | ErenTurkay | i have a problem about kmetabar. |
| 12:26.52 | metalfan_ | no knsapshot installed... instead of the vertial bar "|" i see a block |
| 12:27.07 | ErenTurkay | http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/6u8Ulp58.html |
| 12:27.13 | ErenTurkay | is there a developer? |
| 12:29.27 | Bittin | Hi PhilRod |
| 12:30.00 | metalfan_ | this is not normal right? |
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| 12:30.54 | g-henna | hi everyone |
| 12:31.14 | g-henna | anyone of you who knows about tenor status? |
| 12:31.34 | g-henna | i emailed to the klink mailing list a few days ago, but got no reply from anyone |
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| 12:36.00 | PlasmaHH | hi, how can I tell konsole to show me all available fonts for selection, and how to get it to not "smooth" the text ? |
| 12:36.48 | g-henna | PlasmaHH: settings -> font -> select? |
| 12:37.10 | benJIman|work | PlasmaHH: it will only show fixed width fonts obviously |
| 12:37.15 | PlasmaHH | no, it only shows a few fonts |
| 12:37.21 | benJIman|work | and the font smoothing depends on your antialiasing settings |
| 12:37.21 | PlasmaHH | e.g. not the font that is used by xterm |
| 12:37.29 | benJIman|work | PlasmaHH: it will show all fonts that are fixed width |
| 12:37.42 | PlasmaHH | benJIman|work: so I cannot just disable that antialiasing for konsole? |
| 12:38.10 | PlasmaHH | benJIman|work: I have more than three fixed fonts installed |
| 12:38.17 | benJIman|work | PlasmaHH: not easily, it might be possible, can't tell you how off top of my head |
| 12:38.33 | benJIman|work | PlasmaHH: hmm fontconfig must not be seeing them as fixed |
| 12:38.41 | metalfan_ | PhilRod: http://www.freewebs.com/copyandpaste2/konsole1.png |
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| 12:39.01 | PlasmaHH | hmk, will stay at xterm then. thanks. |
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| 12:52.17 | BlackBsd | hi does anyone know why i cannot access the site https://www.franklin.edu/myFranklin with konqueror in kde 3.5 but in kde3.4 this works? |
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| 12:54.13 | g-henna | BlackBsd: because the host is down :-) |
| 12:54.27 | BlackBsd | im on the site right now in 3.4 |
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| 12:58.32 | _mariux | whats the name of that translation software? |
| 12:58.37 | _mariux | quite new i think |
| 12:58.53 | nik | konqueror...when other browsers are ready, konqueror says on the statusline: X of Y images loaded...please, just show me what you have...don not wait until you have all...how to set it up? |
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| 12:59.33 | _mariux | isnt that default= |
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| 13:34.02 | g-henna | BlackBsd: i cannot ping www.franklin.edu |
| 13:34.27 | nom_s | ok so you cant have the tabs to the left in konversation? |
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| 13:36.20 | Ace2007 | Hi all |
| 13:36.23 | nom_s | hi |
| 13:36.25 | BlackBsd | g-henna i cannot ping www.franklin.edu but i can get on it with the browser.. |
| 13:36.31 | Sho_ | nom_s: You will in the next release |
| 13:36.49 | nom_s | Sho_: when is that? |
| 13:36.59 | g-henna | BlackBsd: ok, that's then probably a stupid firewall setting to block pings |
| 13:37.01 | Sho_ | nom_s: August 31st |
| 13:37.03 | BlackBsd | again i am using konqueror 3.4 so i can get to https://www.franklin.edu/myFranklin |
| 13:37.12 | BlackBsd | but on 3.5 i cannot |
| 13:37.29 | nom_s | Sho_: Can you have transparent bg by then as well? |
| 13:37.33 | UnionPivo | hi |
| 13:37.35 | Sho_ | nom_s: no |
| 13:37.53 | g-henna | BlackBsd: ok, i see the problem |
| 13:37.55 | BlackBsd | frankin is an university im going to which offers online classes. |
| 13:37.57 | Ace2007 | does anyone know how do stop Alt+F2 from trying to go to the url of miss typed commands, like kwirte, it tries to go to kwirte.com |
| 13:38.07 | g-henna | BlackBsd: or offers not :-) |
| 13:38.22 | BlackBsd | but franklin webpage gives konqueror a few problems... |
| 13:38.46 | BlackBsd | in 3.5 i cannot access the site, in 3.4 i have to set browser identification so some menus appear. |
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| 13:40.53 | g-henna | BlackBsd: do you have lynx installed? |
| 13:41.07 | nom_s | query me pls |
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| 13:41.36 | g-henna | try lynx -dump http(s)://www.franklin.edu/myFranklin/ |
| 13:41.39 | metalfan_ | BlackBsd: i dont get a connection to https://www.franklin.edu/myFranklin |
| 13:41.44 | nom_s | Sho_: is there an unstable ebuild already? |
| 13:41.46 | g-henna | it should five you some more infos... |
| 13:42.00 | g-henna | f -> g |
| 13:43.07 | BlackBsd | metalfan, yes in konqueror 3.5 i cannot accesss this site as well. |
| 13:43.16 | BlackBsd | thats what the problem is |
| 13:43.24 | BlackBsd | on 3.4 i can get on the site |
| 13:43.24 | Sho_ | nom_s: http://konversation.kde.org/wiki/Gentoo |
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| 13:44.26 | BlackBsd | g-henna, i think i have lynx |
| 13:44.37 | BlackBsd | yes i have it |
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| 13:46.07 | BlackBsd | and i can access the site with lynx |
| 13:46.41 | Ace2007 | Anyone know how to stop kde from treating miss spelled commands as urls? |
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| 13:49.25 | PhilRod | BlackBsd: maybe you need to do UA spoofing? |
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| 13:50.52 | BlackBsd | PhilRod, can you access the site? |
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| 13:51.05 | BlackBsd | in konqueror 3.5 |
| 13:51.28 | g-henna | BlackBsd: i can't access it with lynx |
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| 13:52.22 | BlackBsd | i can access the site with lynx and firefox but not konqueror 3.5 |
| 13:52.44 | grothesk | BlackBsd: Which site? |
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| 13:53.04 | BlackBsd | https://www.franklin.edu/myFranklin |
| 13:53.33 | BlackBsd | its my college's web site. |
| 13:53.33 | Bonkie | BlackBsd: same here, works in firefox, but not konqueror 3.5 |
| 13:54.28 | PhilRod | BlackBsd: not in konq - it says "could not connect to host". Same for www.franklin.edu |
| 13:54.39 | PhilRod | either a problem with the site or with the http ioslave |
| 13:55.09 | g-henna | BlackBsd: it might be that konqi 3.5 does a ping before trying to access. since the host is not responding to ping requests... |
| 13:55.09 | marijn | PhilRod: it's the site |
| 13:55.10 | PhilRod | links connects fine |
| 13:55.10 | BlackBsd | i can get to www.franklin.edu |
| 13:55.13 | g-henna | but well, i can access the www.franklin.edu start page |
| 13:55.15 | BlackBsd | with konqueror |
| 13:55.39 | PhilRod | oh wait, I can get www.franklin.edu now |
| 13:55.56 | BlackBsd | also konqueror 3.4 can get to both.. |
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| 13:57.16 | metalfan_ | maybe its just a stupid page nobody needs to use?;) |
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| 13:58.41 | BlackBsd | metalfan_: thanks :-p |
| 13:58.46 | BlackBsd | i need to use it.. |
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| 14:01.33 | PhilRod | ah, it's a https link - I didn't notice that earlier |
| 14:03.09 | cbr | when will kde4 be starting to take shape? aka real working solutions, new graphics, screenshottable material etc? |
| 14:03.33 | PhilRod | cbr: end of this year at the earliest |
| 14:04.05 | DavidJN | Is there a KDE 3.6 or are all efforts on 4.0 ? |
| 14:04.12 | PhilRod | BlackBsd: seems something is going wrong in the SSL negotiation |
| 14:04.29 | shining | PhilRod: or slower depending on the person |
| 14:04.38 | shining | later I mean |
| 14:04.54 | PhilRod | DavidJN: no 3.6. There's still bugfixing on 3.5 (and one or two new features), but main effort is on KDE 4 |
| 14:05.04 | PhilRod | argh! project management! |
| 14:05.15 | DavidJN | Hehe was just curious :P |
| 14:06.16 | DjDarkman | can someone give me e link to a good kde qt tutorial?cause these that I found and kdevelop is confusing me |
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| 14:06.57 | PhilRod | DjDarkman: doc.trolltech.com |
| 14:07.03 | BlackBsd | PhilRod, is the ssl code different from kde 3.4 to kde 3.5 |
| 14:07.16 | PhilRod | probably |
| 14:07.18 | DjDarkman | ok thanks |
| 14:07.34 | cbr | PhilRod: have any core apps or solutions already gone through a considerable development or is it too soon yet and its just been ported to qt4? |
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| 14:09.38 | benJIman|work | cbr: majority has been porting to qt4, and invisible library changes thus far |
| 14:09.57 | benJIman|work | it is a considerable development, but not that the user would see yet |
| 14:10.29 | PhilRod | cbr: there's notable development on some of the "backend" stuff (phonon, solid, akonadi), but like benJIman|work says, not user-visible |
| 14:10.40 | PhilRod | the commit digest is a good place to keep up-to-date with developments |
| 14:10.45 | PhilRod | www.commit-digest.org |
| 14:10.55 | cbr | so eta - end of 2006 was kinda utopic huh |
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| 14:11.29 | benJIman|work | cbr: won't be ready by then, should be more visible stuff and starting to be runnable by then hopefully |
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| 14:14.54 | PhilRod | yes, release will likely be next year sometime |
| 14:15.37 | cbr | well atleast one thing i'm really pleased is the oxygen icons |
| 14:15.59 | cbr | at last a breeze of fresh air |
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| 14:17.38 | tolonuga | does anyone know a kde application for chatting using the SIP/SIMPLE protocol? |
| 14:18.10 | nom_s | can you remote konversation? |
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| 14:27.23 | DreadPirateBob | Anyone have a favorite X configuration utility? |
| 14:27.37 | DreadPirateBob | Especially for probing monitor settings and configuring modes? |
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| 14:27.55 | PhilRod | DreadPirateBob: ask in #yourdistro - it might provide its own tools |
| 14:28.22 | DreadPirateBob | PhilRod: I am #mydistro Looking for options for replacing firstboot atrocities I inherited from fedora |
| 14:28.26 | DreadPirateBob | :) |
| 14:28.32 | emss | DreadPirateBob: Xorg -configure |
| 14:28.45 | DreadPirateBob | emss: That's a good first step |
| 14:28.57 | emss | then vi xorg.conf and man |
| 14:29.07 | DreadPirateBob | emss: that's not a good second step |
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| 14:29.16 | emss | why because you need to read? |
| 14:29.57 | wizard123 | hi |
| 14:30.04 | wizard123 | whats on topic? |
| 14:30.25 | emss | DreadPirateBob: google xorg.conf copy and paste |
| 14:30.28 | visik7 | anyone know how to send click event to an app ? |
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| 14:31.40 | wizard123 | omg.. i want to share some of my observations here |
| 14:32.03 | wizard123 | gentoo is evil |
| 14:32.19 | shining | we already know |
| 14:32.24 | wizard123 | good |
| 14:32.31 | shining | ah no, sorry |
| 14:32.42 | shining | *I* already know :) |
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| 14:32.46 | wizard123 | i'm going back to my sweet bsd :) |
| 14:32.55 | wizard123 | and would _never_ return |
| 14:33.02 | emss | bsd? |
| 14:33.37 | shining | some ppl would tell you that bsd is as evil btw |
| 14:33.44 | wizard123 | emss: freebsd |
| 14:33.51 | wizard123 | the mighty ;) |
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| 14:34.56 | shining | I need to try a binary only install with fbsd |
| 14:35.12 | emss | freebsd is evil |
| 14:35.47 | emss | freebsd supports binary blobs! |
| 14:35.50 | shining | well, linux too |
| 14:36.03 | shining | linux is evil too, I meant |
| 14:36.37 | emss | openbsd is heavenly |
| 14:37.15 | emss | puffy blasts all the binary blobs to bits |
| 14:38.17 | shining | puffy? |
| 14:39.19 | emss | yes |
| 14:39.40 | shining | ohh puffy |
| 14:39.51 | emss | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puffy_(mascot) |
| 14:40.30 | wizard123 | puffy sux ;) |
| 14:40.50 | shining | lies |
| 14:40.57 | emss | well enjoy your glass-like pokemon ball :) |
| 14:41.19 | wizard123 | hurd ftw! |
| 14:41.36 | wizard123 | did somebodu run kde on hurd? |
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| 14:42.18 | shining | LOL |
| 14:42.26 | shining | "I've swiched from "BSOD" (win98SE) to OBSD" |
| 14:42.37 | wizard123 | :D |
| 14:42.37 | shining | I love that |
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| 14:43.14 | shining | the power is in the order |
| 14:43.31 | shining | one O misplaced, and the world fall down |
| 14:43.58 | shining | wizard123: what about kde on plan9 ? |
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| 14:44.04 | wizard123 | heh |
| 14:44.09 | wizard123 | good idea |
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| 14:44.25 | wizard123 | and what about kde on win95? |
| 14:45.10 | shining | it's being ported to windows, isn't it? |
| 14:45.23 | wizard123 | what for ?! |
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| 14:52.58 | steve___ | Does anyone here have issues printing landscape pdf's via kpdf? |
| 14:54.00 | steve___ | ubuntu dapper || KDE 3.5.2 |
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| 14:54.19 | PadreCadenas | please! |
| 14:54.22 | PadreCadenas | help me! |
| 14:54.24 | PadreCadenas | :( |
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| 14:54.35 | PadreCadenas | i've a serious problem with gpg-agent |
| 14:54.43 | steve___ | kpdf_3.5.2-0ubuntu6_i386.deb |
| 14:54.44 | tstaerk | PadreCadenas, difficult if you do not tell what happened |
| 14:54.56 | PadreCadenas | someone had a script wich working launched from autostart? |
| 14:55.05 | PadreCadenas | tstaerk: see this |
| 14:55.28 | tstaerk | PadreCadenas, you have to put #!/bin/bash at the beginning. |
| 14:55.35 | PadreCadenas | echo $GPG_AGENT_INFO |
| 14:55.42 | PadreCadenas | return empty line |
| 14:55.44 | PadreCadenas | wait |
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| 14:56.02 | PadreCadenas | bin/sh is not ok? |
| 14:56.11 | steve___ | I can send someone the a copy of the pdf, if they like. It looks like there is an attempt at a bug report here: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kdegraphics/+bug/47649 |
| 14:56.19 | tstaerk | #!/bin/sh is okay if you know what you are doing |
| 14:56.31 | PadreCadenas | i try bash |
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| 14:56.55 | PadreCadenas | nothing |
| 14:56.58 | PadreCadenas | dont' work |
| 14:56.59 | PadreCadenas | :( |
| 14:57.06 | tstaerk | PadreCadenas, chatting here is not my only task at the moment, could you precisely describe in one sentence what 's your problem |
| 14:57.12 | PadreCadenas | yes |
| 14:57.28 | PadreCadenas | gpg-agent won't start from .kde/Autostart |
| 14:57.38 | PadreCadenas | if i put it in /etc/profile.d |
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| 14:57.43 | PadreCadenas | start correctly |
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| 14:57.45 | PadreCadenas | but... |
| 14:57.54 | PadreCadenas | 1)fill /tmp/ with gpg-** |
| 14:58.05 | PadreCadenas | 2)sometimes don't work |
| 14:58.06 | PadreCadenas | :/ |
| 14:58.10 | stefano | #debian-it |
| 14:58.19 | tstaerk | how do you verify it has not started ? |
| 14:58.25 | PadreCadenas | with |
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| 14:58.43 | PadreCadenas | with echo $GPG_AGENT_INFO |
| 14:58.44 | steve___ | did you say 'one sentence' or 'one word'? |
| 14:58.46 | steve___ | :) |
| 14:58.56 | PadreCadenas | :( |
| 14:59.00 | PadreCadenas | :° |
| 14:59.42 | PadreCadenas | escuse me..nobody here use gpg-agent? |
| 14:59.58 | tstaerk | well, your environment variables are set per shell. That means, |
| 15:00.14 | tstaerk | /etc/profile.d sets your variables, .kde/Autostart not. |
| 15:00.20 | PadreCadenas | mmmm |
| 15:00.28 | PadreCadenas | and if i try .kde/env? |
| 15:00.46 | tstaerk | how about ps -A|grep gpg-agent ? |
| 15:01.03 | PadreCadenas | ps -A|grep gpg-agent |
| 15:01.03 | PadreCadenas | 10569 ? 00:00:00 gpg-agent |
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| 15:01.10 | tstaerk | so it is started! |
| 15:01.14 | PadreCadenas | yes |
| 15:01.18 | PadreCadenas | but dont' work |
| 15:01.19 | PadreCadenas | :( |
| 15:01.21 | PadreCadenas | watch |
| 15:01.27 | tstaerk | and how do you find out this ? |
| 15:01.50 | PadreCadenas | echo "test" | gpg -ase -r <my key here> |
| 15:02.31 | PadreCadenas | gpg: gpg-agent non è disponibile in questa sessione |
| 15:02.31 | PadreCadenas | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:02.42 | PadreCadenas | translated in english |
| 15:02.55 | PadreCadenas | "gpg-agent is not avaliable in this session" |
| 15:02.56 | PadreCadenas | :° |
| 15:03.30 | tstaerk | yes, probably because it is in another variable context |
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| 15:04.20 | PadreCadenas | tstaerk: i paste script on pastebin |
| 15:04.25 | PadreCadenas | please take a look |
| 15:05.31 | PadreCadenas | what the hell... |
| 15:05.36 | PadreCadenas | pastebin sloooooooow |
| 15:05.37 | PadreCadenas | :/ |
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| 15:07.00 | PadreCadenas | http://pastebin.com/778883 |
| 15:07.01 | PadreCadenas | :° |
| 15:07.21 | PadreCadenas | from yesterday..with this script,i didn't solve |
| 15:07.26 | PadreCadenas | nobody helps me :° |
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| 15:08.37 | PadreCadenas | please..someone help! |
| 15:08.57 | jumpeing | posdrafiam fszystkich Polakóf |
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| 15:14.10 | jumpeing | will mandriva 2007 have gnome as a default de? |
| 15:16.55 | emss | why is everyone using gnome now? |
| 15:17.04 | PadreCadenas | emss: boh |
| 15:17.09 | emss | boh? |
| 15:17.11 | PadreCadenas | kde is better |
| 15:17.19 | PadreCadenas | emss: boh=i don't know |
| 15:17.20 | PadreCadenas | :D |
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| 15:17.24 | PadreCadenas | italian slang |
| 15:17.25 | jumpeing | i just asked |
| 15:17.26 | PadreCadenas | boh! |
| 15:17.27 | PadreCadenas | :D |
| 15:17.40 | emss | nice |
| 15:17.45 | jumpeing | personally i prefer xfce to kde and gnome |
| 15:17.59 | PadreCadenas | emss: wanna see sardinian "boh" |
| 15:18.04 | zr | emss: boh == dunno |
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| 15:18.11 | PadreCadenas | non d'isco |
| 15:18.13 | PadreCadenas | :D |
| 15:18.15 | eastwood | j #latex |
| 15:18.21 | PadreCadenas | please help me |
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| 15:18.32 | PadreCadenas | serious problem with gpg-agent |
| 15:18.33 | PadreCadenas | :( |
| 15:18.43 | PadreCadenas | nobody here use gpg-agent? |
| 15:18.53 | emss | with the script you are using? |
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| 15:19.15 | zr | PadreCadenas: why are you asking questions about gpg-agent on #kde? |
| 15:19.26 | zr | PadreCadenas: is this a question about kgpg? |
| 15:19.52 | PadreCadenas | zr: yes. |
| 15:20.00 | PadreCadenas | gpg-agent is used by kde |
| 15:20.04 | PadreCadenas | kmail |
| 15:20.10 | zr | PadreCadenas: what is your distro? |
| 15:20.14 | PadreCadenas | slackware |
| 15:20.22 | PadreCadenas | i only ask for a script |
| 15:20.25 | PadreCadenas | :( |
| 15:20.32 | zr | well, install the gpg package |
| 15:20.36 | PadreCadenas | !! |
| 15:20.43 | PadreCadenas | of course is installed |
| 15:20.56 | PadreCadenas | the problem is gpg-agent is not "exported" |
| 15:20.57 | emss | what is wrong with your script? |
| 15:21.01 | PadreCadenas | emss: wait |
| 15:21.09 | PadreCadenas | http://pastebin.ca/153271 |
| 15:21.25 | PadreCadenas | in /etc/profile.d/ "works" |
| 15:21.25 | PadreCadenas | but bad |
| 15:21.31 | PadreCadenas | i want it in kde/Autostart |
| 15:21.45 | PadreCadenas | but don't work in autostart..i don't understand why... |
| 15:22.37 | zr | PadreCadenas: maybe you're not root? |
| 15:22.48 | zr | PadreCadenas: chmod it correctly |
| 15:22.55 | PadreCadenas | the script must work as user |
| 15:23.01 | PadreCadenas | chmod 755 |
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| 15:23.55 | zr | PadreCadenas: does it work if you run it in a terminal while in kde? |
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| 15:24.18 | PadreCadenas | yes |
| 15:24.21 | PadreCadenas | if i do |
| 15:24.43 | PadreCadenas | eval "$(gpg-agent --daemon)" |
| 15:24.46 | PadreCadenas | then |
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| 15:24.57 | PadreCadenas | echo $GPG_AGENT_INFO |
| 15:24.57 | PadreCadenas | /tmp/gpg-cGGqeS/S.gpg-agent:14847:1 |
| 15:25.06 | PadreCadenas | this mean is ok |
| 15:25.10 | simmerz | can the kde system tray show gnome panel apps? |
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| 15:25.16 | PadreCadenas | but... |
| 15:25.27 | PadreCadenas | i don't understand |
| 15:25.35 | PadreCadenas | how to export it in kde |
| 15:25.38 | PadreCadenas | otherwise |
| 15:25.43 | PadreCadenas | when i close console |
| 15:26.00 | PadreCadenas | echo $GPG_AGENT_INFO |
| 15:26.01 | PadreCadenas | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:26.05 | PadreCadenas | empty |
| 15:26.07 | PadreCadenas | :( |
| 15:26.22 | PadreCadenas | in kde/env...don't work |
| 15:26.25 | PadreCadenas | :( |
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| 15:26.45 | emss | PadreCadenas: how do you start kde? |
| 15:26.54 | seraphin_ | PadreCadenas: i dont know what ur talking about but it looks like env variable |
| 15:27.06 | emss | using KDM or from command line? |
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| 15:27.08 | PadreCadenas | emss: init 4 kdm |
| 15:27.18 | PadreCadenas | seraphin_: yes |
| 15:27.36 | emss | PadreCadenas: so add that script to your ~/.Xsession file |
| 15:27.37 | seraphin_ | PadreCadenas: try to set it in .bashrc or your shell config maybe |
| 15:27.46 | PadreCadenas | yes |
| 15:27.49 | PadreCadenas | this works |
| 15:27.56 | PadreCadenas | but with other problems |
| 15:28.15 | PadreCadenas | every shell generate a new gpg-agent |
| 15:28.17 | emss | PadreCadenas: add it to ~/.bash_login |
| 15:28.26 | PadreCadenas | i try |
| 15:28.27 | emss | or ~/.login depending on your shell |
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| 15:29.09 | emss | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:31.02 | PadreCadenas | naah |
| 15:31.04 | PadreCadenas | dont' work |
| 15:31.07 | PadreCadenas | see.. |
| 15:31.24 | PadreCadenas | ls /tmp/ |
| 15:31.26 | PadreCadenas | gconfd-giuseppe/ gpg-FB6FJX/ gpg-RiVmQg/ gpg-sJHtg6/ |
| 15:31.32 | PadreCadenas | 3 shells |
| 15:31.34 | PadreCadenas | 3 gpg |
| 15:31.35 | PadreCadenas | :( |
| 15:32.02 | PadreCadenas | is impossible...damned script!! |
| 15:32.08 | PadreCadenas | :( |
| 15:32.11 | tolonuga | I think you want a script in ~/.kde/env/ |
| 15:32.23 | PadreCadenas | tolonuga: i have already made it |
| 15:32.29 | PadreCadenas | but don't work |
| 15:32.32 | PadreCadenas | see |
| 15:32.44 | zr | PadreCadenas: #gnupg |
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| 15:32.47 | tolonuga | ok, then you can hack (if it is your own, single user box): edit the startkde script |
| 15:32.49 | zr | try asking there |
| 15:33.04 | PadreCadenas | zr: thanks |
| 15:33.05 | PadreCadenas | i try |
| 15:33.14 | zr | figurati |
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| 15:33.29 | PadreCadenas | lol |
| 15:33.31 | PadreCadenas | italiano? |
| 15:33.32 | PadreCadenas | :D |
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| 15:34.23 | zr | :D |
| 15:34.26 | volty | what's the chan of developers |
| 15:34.27 | volty | ? |
| 15:35.19 | rdale_ | #kde-devel |
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| 15:35.34 | volty | thx |
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| 15:40.26 | BlueG | Help, my kicker panel has disappeared! Anyone have suggestions on this? :( |
| 15:40.32 | PadreCadenas | BlueG: killall kicker |
| 15:40.36 | PadreCadenas | then run kicker |
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| 15:40.55 | eastwood | killall kicker && kicker & |
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| 15:41.44 | PadreCadenas | goodbye |
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| 15:42.43 | BlueG | ok, when i do this, kicker appears briefly, hides itself, and will not come back up... |
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| 15:45.10 | BlueG | can anyone tell me how to force kicker to come back up, or how to access its settings when you can't click on the panel? |
| 15:47.55 | lilltiger | Controll Center -> Panel |
| 15:48.25 | lilltiger | -l |
| 15:48.27 | emss | BlueG Alt+F2 kicker or dcop kicker Panel restart |
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| 15:49.41 | cbr | if i insert a cd to my cdrom and i dont have any line about the cdrom drive in my fstab, will it show up on the kde (3.5.4) desktop and will it be mountable? |
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| 15:51.49 | tolonuga | I think the whole mounting stuff - at least on kubuntu - requires that line in /etc/fstab. |
| 15:52.12 | tolonuga | I have /dev/hdc /media/hdc auto noauto,user,noexec,nosuid,nodev |
| 15:52.22 | BlueG | ah-ha! I restarted kicker, then right clicked it before it hid so I could get to the settings. For some reason, it was no longer set to unhide when the cursor touched the bottom edge of the screen... |
| 15:52.26 | BlueG | thanks, guys |
| 15:53.47 | emss | BlueG: you could always edit ~/.kde/share/config/kickerrc |
| 15:53.49 | BlueG | ok, so I am getting an error when KDE starts up that /dev/dsp can't be opened (permission denied). Why is this and how should I fix it? |
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| 15:54.08 | emss | BluG: does /dev/dsp exist? |
| 15:54.15 | emss | BlueG: ls -l /dev/dsp |
| 15:54.27 | cbr | oh |
| 15:54.30 | cbr | it does mount |
| 15:54.33 | cbr | under /media |
| 15:54.36 | cbr | that is cool |
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| 15:58.10 | BlueG | emss, /dev/dsp is a symbolic link to /dev/sound/dsp |
| 15:59.14 | BlueG | emss, /dev/sound/dsp is owned by root and has group audio |
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| 15:59.33 | emss | BlueG: are you in group audio? type id |
| 16:00.32 | emss | BlueG: type this command: id |
| 16:00.32 | BlueG | emss, I believe I accidently removed myself from the audio group when I added myself to the wheel group... should that fix it? do i need to restart kde to find out? |
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| 16:01.30 | emss | if not: vigr and add yourself to audio then logout and back in |
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| 16:03.01 | BlueG | brb, restarting kde |
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| 16:06.46 | BlueG | ok, adding myself to the audio group got rid of the error, but I am still hearing no sound... |
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| 16:07.36 | BlueG | nm, they just started working... |
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| 16:22.41 | BlueG | I can't get any video files to play in noatun, kaboodle, embedded player in konqueror, or xmms. Kaboodle does nothing, noatun skips them, xmms won't add them to the playlist, and the embedded media player says 'arts can not load this file'. What is wrong? Do I need to install somekind of pluggin for arts or something? |
| 16:23.03 | eastwood | tried kaffeine? |
| 16:23.24 | eastwood | yeah, proly you do |
| 16:23.28 | PhilRod | kaffeine or kmplayer is your best bet |
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| 16:27.14 | BlueG | no, I haven't tried kaffiene or kmplayer, but noatun, etc worked fine in the past... |
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| 16:30.25 | shining | what's the difference between applet and systray apps? |
| 16:30.35 | shining | what is klaptopdaemon? |
| 16:31.06 | shining | it shows up in Service Manager -> Load-on-Demand Services, but I can't do anything with it |
| 16:31.11 | rdale_ | applets are dynamically loaded libs, systray apps are proper little apps |
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| 16:33.09 | shining | well, I think it's an app, but I'm not sure |
| 16:33.21 | shining | I don't know how it's started |
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| 16:34.04 | H2OyJaBoN | hi all! |
| 16:34.22 | H2OyJaBoN | somebody can help me... my kopete doesn't play sounds |
| 16:35.08 | eastwood | mine also doesnt, but they are disabled ^^ |
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| 16:36.26 | PhilRod | ~artstr |
| 16:36.28 | apt | You can find some tips on diagnosing sound-related problems at http://docs.kde.org/development/en/kdebase/faq/sound.html |
| 16:36.34 | PhilRod | H2OyJaBoN: read that ^^^ |
| 16:36.35 | BlueG | H2OyJaBoN, have you checked that they are enabled? settings > configure notifications |
| 16:36.47 | H2OyJaBoN | BlueG, are enabled! |
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| 16:37.47 | BlueG | H2OyJaBoN, are your other sounds working? |
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| 16:38.21 | SimAtWork | anyone here get amarok to compile with qt for mac? |
| 16:38.28 | H2OyJaBoN | BlueG, in this moment no, but i can play sound with amarok |
| 16:38.28 | SimAtWork | do you guys think it's even possible? |
| 16:38.34 | SimAtWork | would it work on the mac seeing that there is no alsa etc ? |
| 16:40.57 | BlueG | H2OyJaBoN, so are you saying the only thing that makes sound is amarok? |
| 16:41.16 | H2OyJaBoN | BlueG, no,.... when kde startup play sound |
| 16:41.17 | H2OyJaBoN | =) |
| 16:41.19 | H2OyJaBoN | too |
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| 16:43.40 | BlueG | H2OyJaBoN, hmm... I don't really know much about this, I am not sure why sounds aren't working in kopete when they are enabled, even tho other sounds are... perhaps someone else has better advice? |
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| 16:44.13 | H2OyJaBoN | BlueG, i know eich the problme is artsd c |
| 16:44.14 | H2OyJaBoN | .. |
| 16:44.18 | H2OyJaBoN | thank's too man!! |
| 16:44.19 | H2OyJaBoN | :D |
| 16:44.36 | PhilRod | SimAtWork: I suspect there are mac packages (or whatever they're called) available |
| 16:45.20 | PhilRod | SimAtWork: http://wiki.kde.org/tiki-index.php?page=KDE/Mac |
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| 16:47.35 | SimAtWork | boy am i starving today! |
| 16:47.38 | SimAtWork | need to go get food |
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| 16:55.06 | PlasmaHH | hi, anyone knows where I can find more information about the format of the font settings in the configuration files? and how I translate -*-*-*-* style settings to them= |
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| 17:03.32 | PlasmaHH | ah, I got it... in the kde settings you cannot specify the font you want... |
| 17:04.04 | eastwood | you can |
| 17:04.06 | PhilRod | PlasmaHH: ? |
| 17:04.09 | eastwood | if it's for the menus you can |
| 17:04.39 | PlasmaHH | kde uses QFont and QFont lets you specify only its settings, and from those it selects a font |
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| 17:05.47 | PhilRod | PlasmaHH: you can twiddle Qt font handling with qtconfig I think - that might give you more fine-grained font control |
| 17:07.10 | PlasmaHH | PhilRod: the problem is, that some of the attributes I want to specify are not supported by QFont, so I have to find something near the font that I want. I mean I have the font string, why cant I just use it *sigh* |
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| 17:12.22 | _nazcafan | hi |
| 17:12.23 | PhilRod | hi _nazcafan |
| 17:12.25 | _nazcafan | Where should I add a startup script ? I can't find the good menu in the service manager |
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| 17:12.52 | Sutoka | _nazcafan: startup scripts can be put in ~/.kde/Autostart |
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| 17:14.12 | PhilRod | ~autostart |
| 17:14.15 | apt | To start a program or set an environment variable at KDE login, see: http://docs.kde.org/development/en/kdebase/faq/configure.html#id2560273 |
| 17:14.17 | _nazcafan | ~/autostart ? |
| 17:14.18 | apt | i heard /autostart is the user's autostart folder for KDE |
| 17:14.19 | PhilRod | no, that was a trigger for the bot |
| 17:14.19 | PhilRod | take a look at the faq |
| 17:14.19 | PhilRod | (topic) |
| 17:14.23 | sorush20 | is you cant reproduce a bug then it isn't one right? |
| 17:16.06 | PhilRod | sorush20: well, it might still be a bug, but it's hard for the developers to do anything about it |
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| 17:17.07 | sorush20 | PhilRod: isn't there anyway to catch the crash and find out what exactly it is when it crashes? |
| 17:17.25 | PhilRod | sorush20: yes, if your KDE is compiled with debugging symbols |
| 17:17.55 | PhilRod | sorush20: but I suspect there's a background to your question... |
| 17:18.48 | sorush20 | PhilRod: I can get a back trace .. |
| 17:19.35 | sorush20 | PhilRod: i did get a back trace that was but then I remembered about reproducibility |
| 17:20.07 | PhilRod | do you still have the backtrace? Can you paste it to a pasteboard? |
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| 17:23.04 | xtitus | apt: ~/.kde/Autostart is KDE's autostart folder for users |
| 17:23.13 | apt | xtitus: okay |
| 17:23.17 | xtitus | just put *.desktop files there |
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| 17:23.34 | sorush20 | http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21990 |
| 17:23.49 | sorush20 | PhilRod: its a konqueror back trace.. |
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| 17:25.48 | PhilRod | sorush20: ok, the backtrace is useful. You have two options: |
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| 17:26.02 | niter3 | bit of an issue. I've recently installed the newest KDE and kopete crashes every single time I try to configure it. Anyone have any clue why this is happening? |
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| 17:26.32 | expose | if i lock a session, will ktorrent keep downloading, and will konversation keep me logged in here? Yes, hm? |
| 17:26.44 | Sho_ | expose: yes |
| 17:26.49 | expose | Good. |
| 17:26.54 | PhilRod | niter3: problem with webcam support. What version of kopete? |
| 17:26.56 | positivo | Algum Brasileiro? |
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| 17:27.05 | expose | 'd ve been kinda wierd anyway otherwise |
| 17:27.08 | PhilRod | _positi: #kde-br |
| 17:27.21 | _positi | Say Hi |
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| 17:29.28 | yeti_ | where does kde store the contents of the applications menu at the bottom left of the taskbar? |
| 17:29.42 | expose | Can i get black bg for hiding the window of a logged session even without screen savers? |
| 17:32.16 | PhilRod | expose: kdesktop_lock? |
| 17:32.26 | PhilRod | set your screensaver to "blank screen" |
| 17:32.50 | PhilRod | yeti_: ~/.local or ~/.config - see the user guide: |
| 17:32.54 | PhilRod | ~kde-for-admins |
| 17:33.01 | apt | You can find lots of information useful to sysadmins at http://www.kde.org/areas/sysadmin and in the User Guide at http://docs.kde.org/stable/en/kdebase/userguide/kde-for-administrators.html |
| 17:33.01 | PhilRod | ~sysadmin |
| 17:33.03 | apt | You can find lots of information useful to sysadmins at http://www.kde.org/areas/sysadmin and in the User Guide at http://docs.kde.org/stable/en/kdebase/userguide/kde-for-administrators.html |
| 17:33.25 | PhilRod | yeti_: there's info about how the menu works in those two links |
| 17:33.37 | yeti_ | PhilRod: thank you |
| 17:34.21 | PhilRod | !afk |
| 17:34.54 | niter3 | PhilRod: i'm not setting up webcam |
| 17:34.59 | niter3 | but hold on i will grab you the version |
| 17:35.26 | niter3 | 0.11.1 |
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| 17:39.50 | Nazcafan | hi again |
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| 17:40.45 | Nazcafan | I just wanted to thank you for your help. sorry, I just logged out roughly and my xchat closed without giving me the time to thank you |
| 17:40.59 | Nazcafan | bye bye |
| 17:41.25 | zr | bow down to 3.14 |
| 17:41.37 | zr | whoops, sorry wrong window |
| 17:41.44 | eastwood | o_0 |
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| 17:43.19 | Phlogiston | can I report a bug here? I am too lazy to create a report .-D |
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| 17:45.39 | kendrick | Phlogiston: that's casting a pretty small net |
| 17:46.18 | Phlogiston | kendrick: What do you mean? |
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| 17:47.32 | kendrick | well, if you say it here, there's a much larger chance that noone who matters or cares will ever see it :) |
| 17:48.08 | emss | kendrick: everyone matters :) |
| 17:48.33 | kendrick | well, _I_ certainly can't (and don't have time, if i could) fix a KDE bug :) |
| 17:48.36 | kendrick | so that's one down ;) |
| 17:48.43 | nom_s | no, only those in position to do anything against the problem |
| 17:49.17 | shining | Phlogiston: what is it? |
| 17:49.36 | emss | will kde4 ui compete with vistas new ui? |
| 17:49.36 | shining | Phlogiston: if it's already reported, you don't need to report it :) |
| 17:50.03 | emss | are there any pictures of ideas how kde4 will look or any place to read about it? |
| 17:50.30 | annma | emss: it looks like kde 3.5 |
| 17:50.41 | Phlogiston | konqueror can't handle ftp adresses of the form ftp://user@page.com@ftp.page.com, only if you replace @ by %40 |
| 17:50.42 | eastwood | it will look the same |
| 17:50.44 | Phlogiston | version: latest |
| 17:51.01 | emss | oh I thought things like kicker were going to be removed |
| 17:51.04 | shining | annma: no, it looks worse atm |
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| 17:51.54 | eastwood | anyways my skins will overide most new stuff for looks that kde4 will bring |
| 17:52.28 | emss | kde4 we get a new iconset yes? |
| 17:52.31 | emss | :) |
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| 17:52.49 | eastwood | i use a nice 1 |
| 17:52.57 | eastwood | wanna know the name of it? |
| 17:53.09 | emss | which? kde-look is a complete mess hard to find anything |
| 17:53.39 | eastwood | ? |
| 17:53.39 | eastwood | not at all |
| 17:53.39 | emss | yes |
| 17:53.39 | eastwood | maybe you dunno how to find |
| 17:53.39 | emss | go look for a nice iconset |
| 17:53.39 | emss | you find lots of single icons |
| 17:53.47 | eastwood | mine is nuvoX 0.3 |
| 17:54.19 | emss | oh I tried that one |
| 17:54.53 | emss | using crystal-clear now it's ok |
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| 17:58.13 | Sutoka | emss: KDE4 will be featuring the Oxygen icon set (currently in development) |
| 17:58.25 | niter3 | bit of an issue. I've recently installed the newest KDE and kopete crashes every single time I try to configure it. Anyone have any clue why this is happening? |
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| 17:59.07 | Sutoka | niter3: try starting kopete from a terminal (like konsole) to see any output when it crashes |
| 17:59.54 | niter3 | Sutoka: tried that and nothing. |
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| 17:59.58 | niter3 | it just says it's crashing |
| 18:00.21 | Sutoka | niter3: what version of kopete & kde are you using? |
| 18:00.42 | niter3 | 0.11.1 |
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| 18:03.08 | niter3 | how can I check which version ofkde |
| 18:03.49 | eastwood | any kde window |
| 18:03.50 | niter3 | 3.5.2 |
| 18:03.52 | eastwood | help about kde |
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| 18:06.52 | dusty__ | How can i setup remote desktop in kde? (kubuntu) ? |
| 18:07.25 | astal | hi |
| 18:07.48 | yeti_ | i don't get it. ~/.config and ~./local are absolutely identical for both users, still i don't get the same menus |
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| 18:14.28 | *** topic/#kde is Latest releases: stable: 3.5.4. See www.kde.org | KDE FAQ: http://docs.kde.org/stable/en/kdebase/faq/ | Please don't flood the channel, use a paste service: http://rafb.net/paste | Please state your distribution and KDE version when asking questions | Flamewars of every kind, don't even start, or you will be banned | Don't delete ~/.kde ! |
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| 18:16.11 | smileaf | niter3: first computer programs do not have a sexual preference, and two you could always try running it in gdb to get a backtrace and report a bug along with saying what you were doing at the time it crashed. |
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| 18:16.57 | yeti_ | annma: yeah, same distro |
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| 18:17.39 | yeti_ | annma: same machine, just two different users (one of them is root though, the root menu came with the distro, and i'd like to use it for a user too) |
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| 18:23.04 | SimAtWork | hrm |
| 18:23.10 | SimAtWork | if software had a sex i wonder what it'd be |
| 18:23.16 | SimAtWork | free / proprietary? |
| 18:23.41 | SimAtWork | i guess proprietary would have to be the male sex seeing that it'st he one that screws everything |
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| 18:26.55 | smileaf | lol... well put. |
| 18:27.22 | lilltiger | SimAtWork: but men also give free access to all and dosent require payment.. |
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| 18:27.41 | smileaf | lilltiger: almost all :P |
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| 18:28.47 | SimAtWork | lilltiger: free trial |
| 18:28.54 | lilltiger | :) |
| 18:30.29 | muteW | Anyone using the dbus+hald combination here ? |
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| 18:31.02 | eastwood | i think i use both yes |
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| 18:39.36 | niter3 | hey guys. I've enabled transparency on kicker and I have a black background. Well when I have a window open in the system tray the text color is black. How can I change this so I can see it? |
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| 18:50.07 | niter3 | yah kopete is fucked |
| 18:50.17 | eastwood | works here |
| 18:50.31 | niter3 | it works, but everytime i try to configure it crashes |
| 18:50.52 | eastwood | well i've had some crashes when sending files |
| 18:52.23 | niter3 | hrm... yah it's when i try to go to configure it crashes.. |
| 18:52.26 | niter3 | it's a brand new install |
| 18:52.48 | BlackBsd | is there a kde app for distcc viewing? |
| 18:53.28 | BlackBsd | a kde version of distccmon-gui |
| 18:53.39 | eastwood | what do you want that for? |
| 18:55.08 | BlackBsd | i guess so i can see the status of my distcc and how the pc's are holding up.. |
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| 18:56.34 | abuyazan | hello |
| 18:57.21 | abuyazan | i want to ask about application that can down all website fiiles on my local drive |
| 18:57.37 | eastwood | BlackBsd, i only know a gnome 1 |
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| 18:57.57 | eastwood | abuyazan, there's an extension for firefox that does that |
| 18:58.21 | abuyazan | eastwood: which extention |
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| 18:59.14 | eastwood | search for it in their site |
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| 19:06.39 | niter3 | hey guys. I've enabled transparency on kicker and I have a black background. Well when I have a window open in the system tray the text color is black. How can I change this so I can see it? |
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| 19:06.49 | Nicxjo | hello |
| 19:08.02 | eastwood | niter3, did you enable composite in xorg? |
| 19:08.15 | niter3 | what is that? |
| 19:08.24 | niter3 | and how can I check? |
| 19:08.27 | eastwood | hardware transparency |
| 19:08.39 | eastwood | grep composite /etx/X11/xorg.xonf |
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| 19:08.42 | eastwood | grep composite /etx/X11/xorg.conf |
| 19:08.48 | eastwood | grep composite /etc/X11/xorg.conf |
| 19:09.02 | niter3 | no |
| 19:09.09 | eastwood | do it |
| 19:09.19 | vipw | :) |
| 19:09.24 | eastwood | Section "Extensions" |
| 19:09.25 | eastwood | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:09.25 | eastwood | EndSection |
| 19:09.40 | eastwood | save erverything |
| 19:09.45 | eastwood | and restart the X server |
| 19:10.00 | eastwood | do NOT reboot the computer |
| 19:10.05 | Nicxjo | did you know how to avoid konqueror opening media devices in media:/ ? I want it open always on the mount point (eg /mnt/bla or /media/usbdisk)...... |
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| 19:13.29 | muteW | Anyone running dbus+hald in here ? |
| 19:13.48 | eastwood | i am |
| 19:13.58 | smileaf | muteW: you asking again yet you ignored the one who answered earlier? |
| 19:14.10 | eastwood | indeed |
| 19:14.23 | eastwood | <muteW> Anyone using the dbus+hald combination here ? |
| 19:14.24 | eastwood | * piggz (n=piggz@84.13.245.129) has joined #kde |
| 19:14.24 | eastwood | <eastwood> i think i use both yes |
| 19:14.58 | eastwood | maybe it's a timed bot... |
| 19:15.06 | smileaf | maybe... |
| 19:15.31 | smileaf | /ignore? :) |
| 19:16.02 | eastwood | nah, let him speak, this is almost a democracy |
| 19:16.16 | nom_s | why shouldn't i delete .kde? |
| 19:16.28 | smileaf | nom_s: you want to lose all your kde settings? |
| 19:16.35 | eastwood | because u'll lose all the configs |
| 19:16.37 | Nicxjo | any idea for my problem ? |
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| 19:16.55 | tstaerk | nom_s, becaus e you have the alternative t o rename it |
| 19:17.25 | smileaf | Nicxjo: I wish it were possible.. but sadly I can't even have that dialog play a dvd without konqueror opening. |
| 19:17.46 | nom_s | but isn't that obvious? why do we need a topic for that? |
| 19:17.59 | smileaf | nom_s: its to protect the users who don't know that. |
| 19:18.14 | smileaf | nom_s: many suggest it to "fix" a problem. |
| 19:18.17 | niter3 | eastwood: Ok, i've set that option in xorg.conf |
| 19:18.21 | niter3 | but i'm vnc'd in my box |
| 19:18.28 | nom_s | smileaf: ah ok |
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| 19:19.25 | eastwood | niter3, i think the vnc will break once you restart X |
| 19:19.40 | Nicxjo | smileaf: argg |
| 19:19.43 | eastwood | unless it's started up as default |
| 19:19.46 | smileaf | vnc creates it's own X. |
| 19:19.57 | smileaf | Nicxjo: your not alone.... |
| 19:20.31 | Nicxjo | smileaf: thanks.. :'-( |
| 19:20.32 | smileaf | or at least the vnc I used did. |
| 19:20.44 | niter3 | eastwood: well it should, however it will go to KDM. I will have to wait until I get home. |
| 19:21.06 | smileaf | niter3: no ssh? |
| 19:21.15 | eastwood | if autologin isnt used |
| 19:21.20 | eastwood | you will need yes |
| 19:22.58 | niter3 | yes there is ssh |
| 19:23.06 | niter3 | and autologin isn't use |
| 19:23.13 | niter3 | I will have to do it when I get home. |
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| 19:24.47 | smileaf | niter3: if you have ssh why not restart it that way? |
| 19:24.57 | niter3 | howw ould you like me to.. |
| 19:25.08 | niter3 | It will want to load from my ssh console |
| 19:25.17 | smileaf | nah :) |
| 19:25.34 | smileaf | I've started someone's X remotely before. |
| 19:25.47 | niter3 | well how do I do this? |
| 19:25.55 | smileaf | what distro/vnc program? |
| 19:26.03 | niter3 | x11vnc |
| 19:26.05 | niter3 | gentoo |
| 19:26.11 | smileaf | never used x11vnc. |
| 19:26.32 | smileaf | pretty much just restart it as you would normally. |
| 19:26.32 | niter3 | x11vnc is in my autostart |
| 19:26.37 | niter3 | it will start when kde fires up |
| 19:26.43 | niter3 | it's getting KDE to load up is the trick |
| 19:26.48 | niter3 | whith out it bitching.. |
| 19:27.10 | smileaf | can you enabled autologin? |
| 19:27.22 | niter3 | what in kdm? |
| 19:27.25 | smileaf | ya |
| 19:27.29 | eastwood | niter3, go to kcontrol |
| 19:27.34 | eastwood | and enable auto login |
| 19:27.38 | eastwood | and restart X |
| 19:27.59 | smileaf | not restart X we'd have to make kdm think X crashed or something :) |
| 19:28.30 | eastwood | /etc/init.d/kdm restart |
| 19:28.33 | smileaf | which a killall -s 9 X wil accomplish |
| 19:28.51 | niter3 | niter3 |
| 19:29.00 | niter3 | sec |
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| 19:29.38 | niter3 | where i kconrtol is kdm 's autologin? |
| 19:29.40 | smileaf | Oh I'm thinking of the option "Automatically log in again after X server crash" |
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| 19:30.07 | smileaf | System Administration -> Login Manager -> Convenience |
| 19:30.34 | niter3 | found it |
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| 19:31.36 | niter3 | ok let's see if it works |
| 19:31.37 | niter3 | brbr |
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| 19:32.24 | lightoze | Hi all. In which channel can I get help for developing with KDE? |
| 19:32.40 | smileaf | #kde-devel I think |
| 19:32.46 | annma | a precise question? |
| 19:32.52 | annma | you are developing? |
| 19:33.28 | lightoze | my question is about bindings and SMOKE |
| 19:33.42 | annma | wow, you need rdale then |
| 19:34.09 | annma | you can ask in #kde-devel but if no luck try mailing richard dale |
| 19:34.55 | lightoze | thanks |
| 19:39.35 | _mariux | ok, i finally took time to go to wikipedia and look up i18n |
| 19:39.46 | _mariux | been wondering about it for years now :D |
| 19:39.58 | _mariux | btw, whats the name of the (quite new) translation app? |
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| 19:43.18 | isolationist | has anyone here had a problem with screensavers only using a portion of the screen - maybe this is because i have a strange resolution of 1280x768 and depend on 855resolution |
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| 19:43.43 | niter3 | yah didn't work |
| 19:43.50 | niter3 | x loaded back up |
| 19:44.08 | eastwood | ? |
| 19:44.08 | niter3 | but the text font in the system trya still won't display the text when I am active on a windows |
| 19:44.14 | niter3 | transparency is enabled |
| 19:44.19 | niter3 | so the font color is black |
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| 19:44.23 | niter3 | I need to turn it white |
| 19:44.38 | eastwood | kcontrol is the place |
| 19:45.17 | niter3 | i've been digging |
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| 19:46.27 | smileaf | niter3: Oh .. the text on kicker uses the "Button Text" value |
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| 19:49.48 | _mariux | anyone got a .asound that works perfectly? |
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| 19:55.15 | niter3 | eastwood: just gotta find that button text |
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| 19:55.37 | lgsobalvarro | hi canllaith :D |
| 19:57.11 | smileaf | niter3: Appearance & Themes -> Colors |
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| 19:59.25 | PhilRod | aaaaaaannnnnnmmmmmaaaa!!! |
| 19:59.41 | PhilRod | welcome back! |
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| 20:02.16 | lefti | hello is there somebody with k3b and scsi cdrom? |
| 20:02.18 | lgsobalvarro | annma: hello! long time |
| 20:02.57 | lgsobalvarro | lefti: maybe in #k3b |
| 20:03.36 | lefti | yeah, in #k3b is, me (after you refere to that channel) |
| 20:04.09 | canllaith | hi lgsobalvarro |
| 20:05.27 | lgsobalvarro | how are you canllaith ? |
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| 20:08.01 | lefti | ok, i leave message on their message boards |
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| 20:10.31 | isolationist | anyone here have problems with GL screensavers in KDE in that they don't use the full screen, e.g. about a 1/4 of the screen |
| 20:11.01 | dZiKi | hello everyone |
| 20:11.11 | lgsobalvarro | hi dZiKi |
| 20:11.17 | dZiKi | is here anyone using Konversation ? |
| 20:11.29 | lgsobalvarro | im using konversation dZiKi |
| 20:11.58 | dZiKi | is there any possibility to change character encoding ? |
| 20:12.06 | lgsobalvarro | isolationist: i have some months ago that problem with my laptop, and the porblem was with the XORG config |
| 20:12.20 | dZiKi | and what encoding is freenode using by default ? |
| 20:12.51 | dZiKi | i'm from poland and i have problems with my native characters |
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| 20:13.19 | lgsobalvarro | dZiKi: i supouse that you can change it |
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| 20:13.29 | isolationist | lgsobalvarro: that makes sense because it use to work with openSUSE but then when i built LFS i made my own Xorg and now it is broken - thanks for your pointer i will check over xorg.conf |
| 20:13.31 | red | can anyone tell me how to discover which version of kde i'm running atm? |
| 20:13.40 | lgsobalvarro | whatever dZiKi you can ask in #konversation |
| 20:14.16 | dZiKi | i'm seeing them in konversation normally, but my friends who are reading my messages arent seeing theese characters, but some strange chars |
| 20:14.23 | PhilRod | hi jc01385 |
| 20:14.39 | jc01385 | hey PhilRod |
| 20:15.10 | lgsobalvarro | so dZiKi so it problem of you're friends. For example xchat have problems when you use special character like á é í ó ú |
| 20:15.56 | dZiKi | lgsobalvarro: do u see my native chars here: za?ó?? g??l? ja?? ? |
| 20:16.09 | dZiKi | or some strange chars ? |
| 20:16.32 | lgsobalvarro | were here no, but in other chanels i use to |
| 20:16.45 | lgsobalvarro | *here |
| 20:17.09 | lgsobalvarro | dZiKi: i use all spanish characters ;) |
| 20:17.37 | Sutoka | red: to see what version of kde you can just go to Help -> About KDE in most any KDE app, or you could run "kde-config --version" from a konsole |
| 20:17.38 | dZiKi | so i think there should be no problem |
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| 20:18.07 | lgsobalvarro | dZiKi: you're friends shoul change the irc client thats all |
| 20:18.42 | dZiKi | most of them are using mIRC (windoze users) and irssi (linux users) |
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| 20:20.54 | rancidd | Hey guys, I run kubuntu / KDE. Whenever I play music say through xmms/realplayer (when i stream radio off the net), and say i move a window around or i click a button, the system (kde) sounds mess up my music playing, and then it hits a repeated loop that sounds really bad.. in other words, i can only listen to music if i dont touch anything.. this is really annoying, and im wondering if there is anything I can do to fix it? |
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| 20:23.09 | dZiKi | i changed default encoding to utf-8 |
| 20:23.12 | dZiKi | let me check |
| 20:23.17 | dZiKi | zażółć gęślą jaźń |
| 20:23.18 | dZiKi | ;D |
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| 20:36.57 | muteW | Ok, got dbus and hald up and running, but there is still no notifications. |
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| 20:47.43 | RichiH | when i have a list of http addresses, can i open them in a bunch of new tabs in konqueror automagically? |
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| 20:48.01 | koala_man | dcop probably |
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| 20:52.47 | isolationist | lgsobalvarro: do you know what it was that you changed in your xorg.conf to get the screensavers working? |
| 20:53.21 | RichiH | koala_man: well, an easy and comfortable way.. ;) |
| 20:54.05 | muteW | eastwood, you still there ? |
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| 20:56.48 | lgsobalvarro | i dont remember isolationist. Or maybe it tha way that you build you're xorg. |
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| 21:01.22 | eastwood | muteW, yeah? |
| 21:04.15 | muteW | About that dbus+hald problem |
| 21:04.17 | muteW | Got them working but having a few problems. |
| 21:04.17 | muteW | For instance, I cant seem to locate the hal.conf file. It hasnt been created under /etc/hacl/ |
| 21:04.26 | muteW | ** /etc/hal |
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| 21:05.02 | PlasmaHH | hi, can I set the normal and bold fonts for konsole seperately? |
| 21:05.51 | eastwood | muteW, locate hal.conf |
| 21:06.22 | eastwood | -> /etc/dbus-1/system.d/hal.conf |
| 21:06.33 | muteW | yep it's there. |
| 21:06.57 | muteW | a quick ps -ef shows that hald, hald-runner, hald-addon-acpi is running |
| 21:06.58 | muteW | . |
| 21:08.00 | eastwood | so? |
| 21:08.19 | muteW | Yikes, hal.conf is in /usr/local/etc/dbus-1/system.d/hal.conf |
| 21:08.32 | muteW | Did I screw up the configure parameters ? |
| 21:08.38 | eastwood | i dunno |
| 21:08.45 | eastwood | your distro maybe be different than mine |
| 21:09.01 | muteW | Is there any sort of notification for usb-devices ? |
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| 21:09.30 | eastwood | usbview |
| 21:10.54 | muteW | Nah. |
| 21:12.25 | muteW | I was under the impression that after installing dbus+hald all usb / external devices would be recognised automatically and could be mounted without having to fiddle with /etc/fstab |
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| 21:13.47 | kucrut | muteW: all removable medias work flawlessly here |
| 21:14.09 | muteW | I recompiled kioslave media:/ but that didnt work wither. |
| 21:14.13 | muteW | *either. |
| 21:14.22 | kucrut | muteW: what distro again? |
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| 21:14.34 | muteW | All I am getting is a list of the devices mentioned in /etc/fstab |
| 21:14.37 | muteW | Slackware 10.1 |
| 21:14.51 | kucrut | what version of dbus you have? |
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| 21:15.07 | kucrut | i heard the latest dbus doesnt work well with kde |
| 21:15.09 | muteW | dbus-0.92 |
| 21:15.11 | lgsobalvarro | kucrut: slackware dont include dbus & hal by default |
| 21:15.22 | muteW | lgsobalvarro, yes |
| 21:15.25 | kucrut | ok |
| 21:15.50 | PlasmaHH | http://www.projectiwear.org/~plasmahh/screenshot.png does that look like a konsole or a qt bug? |
| 21:16.16 | muteW | It was tough enough getting it compiled and installed. |
| 21:16.24 | kucrut | muteW: i'm still using dbus 0.62 |
| 21:16.53 | isolationist | same here kucrut- seems to work fine |
| 21:17.43 | kucrut | muteW: try downgrading? |
| 21:17.52 | muteW | There is also a funny error when 'make'ing hal-0.5.7.1 |
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| 21:18.26 | PhilRod | PlasmaHH: hard to say, since it's konsole |
| 21:18.30 | muteW | It exits with an error when in the documentation files. |
| 21:19.00 | muteW | But then running make again completes the process sans errors. |
| 21:19.00 | muteW | Doing just that. |
| 21:19.47 | PlasmaHH | PhilRod: it looks like it uses a wrong font for bold. the bold letters are bigger... |
| 21:20.28 | muteW | kucrut, does dbus 0.62 have any bindings ? |
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| 21:21.24 | PlasmaHH | PhilRod: the question now is, if its worth to file a bugreport, and if, where... |
| 21:21.27 | jahshua | hey peeps im using slackware and im missing this lib libartsflow.so.1 .. can anyone point my in the right direction please? |
| 21:22.20 | PlasmaHH | jahshua: what about going to some slackware channel, and ask the people there how to get that file, or how to figure out how to get it? |
| 21:22.23 | PhilRod | PlasmaHH: can you reproduce the problem reliably? |
| 21:22.27 | PlasmaHH | PhilRod: yes |
| 21:23.46 | shining | what's the problem? |
| 21:24.40 | PlasmaHH | you mean me? |
| 21:24.41 | shining | holy crap |
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| 21:24.44 | shining | that's weird :) |
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| 21:25.00 | shining | which font are you using? |
| 21:25.06 | thesame | hi all |
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| 21:26.31 | PlasmaHH | shining: for the non-bold parts, its 6x13: -misc-fixed-medium-r-semicondensed-*-13-120-75-75-c-60-iso10646-1 (konsolerc settingsMisc Fixed, 1, 13, 2, 50, 0, 0, 0, 1, 0), but I think for the bold parts, it uses another font, but thinks its using the 6x13 for clearing out the already painted parts (look at the bold letters, they are a bit bigger) |
| 21:26.32 | thesame | I`m running a 64-bit OS and kde 3.5.4. when i try to see an https web page with konqueror I get this: ASSERT: "!icon.isEmpty()" in konq_pixmapprovider.cc (81) |
| 21:26.32 | shining | it's a bitmap font? |
| 21:26.40 | PlasmaHH | yeah, bitmap font |
| 21:26.52 | thesame | have any idea whats wrong ? |
| 21:27.25 | shining | thesame: no idea, look on bugs.kde.org maybe |
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| 21:28.04 | shining | PlasmaHH: yes, they are way bigger |
| 21:28.12 | PlasmaHH | thesame: looks to me, like it failed to load some icon, maybe something went wrong on installing. I would strace a konqueror and look for failed openes of icon files |
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| 21:29.13 | shining | it seems I don't get bold letters here |
| 21:29.15 | PlasmaHH | shining: it looks like they are 8x13 instead of 6x13 ... as if they have been printed one pixel shifted again |
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| 21:30.09 | PlasmaHH | shining: did you enter the same settings in the konsolerc? do you have the 6x13 font? what kde version do you have? what did you have for breakfast today? whats your current blood pressure? |
| 21:30.28 | isolationist | lol |
| 21:31.56 | PlasmaHH | in case it does matter, the font works fine in xterm |
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| 21:37.35 | shining | PlasmaHH: wow, it's really ugly |
| 21:37.42 | shining | the font I mean |
| 21:37.49 | shining | but I don't have any bug |
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| 21:37.59 | shining | also, everything looks like bold font |
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| 21:38.11 | shining | not only the folders |
| 21:38.28 | PlasmaHH | shining: can you screenshot? and it would be intresting what kde version you have |
| 21:38.33 | PlasmaHH | (and maybe qt version too) |
| 21:38.57 | shining | $ grep font .kde/share/config/konsolerc |
| 21:38.57 | shining | defaultfont=Fixed [Misc],1,13,2,50,0,0,0,1,0 |
| 21:39.12 | shining | can you try with this exact line? |
| 21:39.19 | PlasmaHH | will do |
| 21:40.36 | PlasmaHH | shining: it will give me a completely different font |
| 21:40.53 | PlasmaHH | and its antialiased *bah* |
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| 21:41.09 | shining | antialiased? it's a bitmap font |
| 21:41.37 | PlasmaHH | it doesnt look that with your exact line its a bitmap font |
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| 21:42.41 | shining | when you do Settings -> fonts -> select font |
| 21:42.47 | shining | which one do you want? |
| 21:43.54 | PlasmaHH | well, thats the problem, it doesnt show up there anymore. just the one time, after I asked it to install the bitmap fonts I could select it there. it was saying 6x13 there |
| 21:44.47 | shining | oh wait, you installed one font from there? |
| 21:44.52 | thesame | PlasmaHH, i see some missing .png, added but the same thing |
| 21:45.42 | PlasmaHH | thesame? |
| 21:45.44 | PlasmaHH | ;) |
| 21:46.32 | PlasmaHH | shining: yes, I want to have the same font as xterm has, and thats a bitmap font. bitmap fonts dont seem to show up in the font selection dialog, for whatever reason (the dialog only shows 12 fonts, while I have like 200 installed. fixed ones.) |
| 21:47.13 | shining | PlasmaHH: are bitmap fonts disabled in fontconfig? |
| 21:47.17 | shining | PlasmaHH: which distrib? |
| 21:47.17 | nom_s | can you automatically update the k-menu? |
| 21:47.33 | shining | does "fc-list |grep Fixed" show anything? |
| 21:47.36 | PlasmaHH | shining: not that I know of, how could I check? its a suse 10.1 with all updates I could get |
| 21:48.50 | PlasmaHH | shining: it shows ~30 fonts. it looks like those with styles like SemiCondensed, Oblique and other "uncommon" styles are not shown in the font selection dialog of konsole |
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| 21:49.36 | unity | hey, is there a tool in kate/kwrite that changes the case of a selection to sentence case? |
| 21:49.47 | unity | ie capitalize the first word in each sentence |
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| 21:54.37 | tipote | Hey people ! I'd like to play with Xnest and different window managers inside it |
| 21:54.56 | PlasmaHH | tipote: have fun. |
| 21:55.24 | tipote | How can I avoid my main window manager kwin to catch the alt-tab and other hotkeys when I am playing with this nested X window ? |
| 21:56.06 | tipote | if I hit alt-tab for example, the main kwin (the real X server, on display 0) shows the app switcher |
| 21:56.23 | PlasmaHH | tipote: good question. I have asked that myself sometimes too. but then I wondered, how I ever could get out of the xnest .... |
| 21:56.33 | tipote | but I would like to see the alt-tab switcher inside the Xnest |
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| 21:56.39 | PlasmaHH | tipote: but nevertheless, I think your question is better asked in some #xorg channel |
| 21:56.56 | PlasmaHH | tipote: you can also try playing with a second xserver in fullscreen |
| 21:56.58 | tipote | I would have thought it was a kwin question ... |
| 21:57.07 | PhilRod | you just make sure that the "parent" KDE session (running in the normal X, and not Xnest) doesn't use Alt+Tab |
| 21:57.15 | PhilRod | ie, unset that shortcut |
| 21:57.20 | tipote | PhilRod :that's an option |
| 21:57.32 | PhilRod | or use a different shortcut in the Xnest WM |
| 21:58.08 | PhilRod | in fact, I imagine those are your *only* options, short of focus-follows-mind |
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| 22:00.36 | tipote | what does "block global shortcuts" mean in the window behaviours options ? |
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| 22:05.07 | tipote | Ok, I 'm asking in #xorg just in case |
| 22:05.37 | PhilRod | what's wrong with just using a different shortcut in the Xnest WM? |
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| 22:06.14 | tipote | yeah, let me try that, you're right |
| 22:06.50 | tipote | I hope the kwin shortcuts are per-display |
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| 22:08.37 | tipote | PhilRod: well, that works ! |
| 22:08.40 | tipote | thanks |
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| 22:12.39 | PhilRod | tipote: yw :-) |
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| 22:44.19 | athlonmax | hi |
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| 22:45.07 | athlonmax | I have a question about kmenu |
| 22:45.22 | lgsobalvarro | go head |
| 22:45.50 | athlonmax | do you a know a kmenu them lkike kbfx-spinx that does look like the win95 menu ? |
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| 22:46.47 | lgsobalvarro | nop. i dont use kbfx |
| 22:47.42 | athlonmax | is there a windows 95 menu style for kde ? or should I use icewm ? |
| 22:48.33 | SimAtWork | uhm |
| 22:48.36 | lgsobalvarro | athlonmax: i dont know if exist some kbfx w95 kmenu style. But you can edit kmenu using kmenuedit and organize that like w95 menu |
| 22:48.36 | SimAtWork | don't make me vomit please |
| 22:50.50 | lgsobalvarro | athlonmax: whatever you can search in kde-look or start editing you're kmenu with kmenuedit |
| 22:50.54 | athlonmax | why are people persistent on this |
| 22:51.08 | athlonmax | I am a user,I dont want to edit :) |
| 22:51.13 | athlonmax | anyway |
| 22:51.15 | athlonmax | thanks |
| 22:51.25 | Renze | users are dumb |
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| 22:51.58 | lgsobalvarro | yep Renze |
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| 23:01.32 | athlonmax | hi again |
| 23:01.37 | logixoul | how do i search for a keyword in khelpcenter only for a specific app? |
| 23:01.42 | lgsobalvarro | hello again athlonmax |
| 23:01.54 | athlonmax | now I want to know where can I find the kpackage icon |
| 23:02.10 | lgsobalvarro | distro? |
| 23:02.18 | athlonmax | the application icon with the installer icon on it |
| 23:02.41 | lgsobalvarro | athlonmax: what distribution are you using? |
| 23:02.49 | athlonmax | rh |
| 23:02.55 | logixoul | athlonmax: http://web-old.turbolinux.co.jp/support/img/kpackage.png |
| 23:03.25 | athlonmax | thanks :=) |
| 23:03.25 | Renze | redhat? you must be using an ancient version of KDE then |
| 23:03.40 | athlonmax | I am really impressed by the kde channel expertise |
| 23:03.43 | logixoul | hi Renze. |
| 23:03.52 | Renze | hey logixoul |
| 23:04.15 | lgsobalvarro | yeah, what kde version are you using athlonmax? |
| 23:05.14 | logixoul | lgsobalvarro: distrowatch says 3.3.1 |
| 23:05.30 | Renze | sorry... mistype. that should have been "deadrat" instead of "redhat" |
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| 23:07.15 | logixoul | you'd think they'd have latest firefox... nay, 1.0. groovy. |
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| 23:08.18 | logixoul | [repost] how do i search for a keyword in khelpcenter only for a specific app? |
| 23:08.19 | lgsobalvarro | jo! |
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| 23:08.42 | Renze | logixoul: afaik, you can't |
| 23:09.06 | logixoul | Renze: What the hell, honestly? how am I supposed to use this thing then?! |
| 23:09.37 | Renze | logixoul: use the Search Options tab, set the Scope selection |
| 23:09.56 | Renze | it doesn't offer much of a choice of scope though |
| 23:10.17 | logixoul | yes, that's the problem =< |
| 23:10.54 | Renze | logixoul: I guess khelpcenter is in need of some lovin' |
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| 23:11.47 | nichead | Hello! Can anybody tell me how to configure konqueror such way to already render the website although not all images have been loaded yet? |
| 23:11.51 | nichead | some hidden option? |
| 23:12.24 | Renze | nichead: it's not an option in konqueror... it's bad web design on the part of the page creator |
| 23:13.02 | logixoul | nichead: no hidden option for that exists. |
| 23:13.15 | nichead | ok, thanks! |
| 23:13.22 | nichead | that's a pitty! |
| 23:13.36 | logixoul | khmmm... |
| 23:13.39 | smileaf | it'll aready display a webpage even tho all images are not loaded... |
| 23:13.41 | Renze | more people need to use proper html/css instead of tables :D |
| 23:13.50 | logixoul | smiler: took the words outta my mouth |
| 23:13.54 | logixoul | Renze: oh |
| 23:14.06 | logixoul | Renze: didn't think of that. |
| 23:14.08 | smileaf | smiler: hasn't talked yet :P |
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| 23:15.54 | logixoul | Renze: what's Really weird is that this bug (cuz it's a bug, really) isn't reported. |
| 23:15.54 | nichead | smileaf: For me konqueror stays black till all images are loaded |
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| 23:16.03 | logixoul | Renze: (the khelpcenter one) |
| 23:16.16 | logixoul | nichead: give a testcase. |
| 23:16.18 | athlonmax | do you know a website to edit a boot screen |
| 23:16.30 | Renze | logixoul: report it :) most developers couldn't give two farts about documentation :D |
| 23:16.34 | athlonmax | do you know a website to do a boot screen |
| 23:16.48 | athlonmax | sorry |
| 23:16.49 | logixoul | athlonmax: you mean, edit it online? with a shitty online UI? |
| 23:16.52 | Renze | athlonmax: no such site exists |
| 23:16.52 | athlonmax | I will retype again |
| 23:16.57 | athlonmax | excuse me |
| 23:16.59 | athlonmax | I will retype again |
| 23:17.08 | logixoul | okay, okay |
| 23:17.15 | athlonmax | do you know an application to do a boot screen for linux ? |
| 23:17.30 | logixoul | athlonmax: see http://bootsplash.org |
| 23:17.40 | nichead | logixoul: hm - slashdot.org ?? |
| 23:17.53 | logixoul | nichead: this bug isn't present here |
| 23:18.05 | logixoul | nichead: please use b.k.o |
| 23:18.16 | nichead | the status line shows 6 of 19 images or so till i got 19 of 19 |
| 23:18.25 | nichead | i can file a bug, yeah |
| 23:18.34 | nichead | i'm on debian unstable |
| 23:18.44 | logixoul | nichead: actually the more likely outcome is that you'll find someone has already |
| 23:18.50 | logixoul | nichead: and vote for it |
| 23:19.02 | nichead | yeah, i'll take a look |
| 23:19.08 | athlonmax | thanks :) |
| 23:19.14 | logixoul | nichead: btw... |
| 23:19.23 | athlonmax | so I need netpbm to do it in linux ? |
| 23:19.39 | logixoul | nichead: the first thing i see in my statusbar while loading /. is "33 of 38 images loaded" |
| 23:19.56 | Renze | logixoul: maybe he's on dialup? :D |
| 23:20.33 | logixoul | Renze: maybe, but that doesn't explain why I don't see the first stages of loading, except very quickly (at least a flicker) |
| 23:20.45 | nichead | Renze: no, firefox actually renders fast :-( |
| 23:21.03 | athlonmax | and flash donest work for konqueror ;( |
| 23:21.06 | athlonmax | please help me |
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| 23:21.15 | Renze | athlonmax: flash works fine in konqueror here |
| 23:21.20 | logixoul | athlonmax: here too |
| 23:21.27 | logixoul | athlonmax: what's the exact problem |
| 23:21.29 | logixoul | ? |
| 23:21.43 | athlonmax | flash works in mozilla firefox,but konqueror cannot do |
| 23:21.52 | Renze | konqueror can do |
| 23:22.17 | logixoul | nichead: uhh... i rememember seeing sth on kde wiki abt tweaking konq's performance. you could look it up. |
| 23:22.38 | nichead | logixoul: yeah, me too, but i don't find it anymore... |
| 23:22.44 | logixoul | athlonmax: WHAT do you do, WHAT happens and WHAT do you think should happen? |
| 23:22.59 | athlonmax | flash works in mozilla firefox,but konqueror cannot do |
| 23:23.17 | athlonmax | flash is flash |
| 23:23.38 | logixoul | athlonmax: no shit? |
| 23:23.49 | Renze | amazing grasp of the obvious |
| 23:24.16 | Sutoka | athlonmax: make sure flash is installed into a place konqueror checks for plugins |
| 23:24.40 | athlonmax | ? |
| 23:24.57 | logixoul | athlonmax: do you know what package management is? |
| 23:28.11 | logixoul | nichead: neither do i... |
| 23:28.48 | logixoul | nichead: okay, here's a test |
| 23:28.51 | lgsobalvarro | logixoul: you're habing fun with athlonmax? |
| 23:29.07 | logixoul | lgsobalvarro: *was* :) |
| 23:29.20 | logixoul | nichead: disable image autoloading and tell me what happens |
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| 23:30.10 | lgsobalvarro | that's it, was. Well excuse me logixoul but i have some problems with my english. It's very hard for me think in english. |
| 23:31.14 | logixoul | lgsobalvarro: es autorización, ningún problema. |
| 23:31.38 | lgsobalvarro | vale logixoul ;) |
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| 23:34.05 | logixoul | Renze: http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=31020 huh? |
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| 23:38.49 | tvtoon | Can I search for a KDE bug at the site? |
| 23:39.04 | logixoul | tvtoon: of course. |
| 23:39.25 | logixoul | tvtoon: you mean the http://bugs.kde.org site? of course. |
| 23:39.36 | tvtoon | good, it is an annoying problem with KWrite... |
| 23:40.04 | tvtoon | let me see if it has been fixed |
| 23:40.13 | nichead | logixoul: well disabling image autoloading makes it much fuster of corse |
| 23:41.30 | nichead | logixoul: although - it's still much! slower than firefox |
| 23:42.16 | logixoul | nichead: is it just konqueror or is all of kde annoyingly slow? |
| 23:42.30 | nichead | logixoul: just konquerors web behaviour |
| 23:42.49 | logixoul | nichead: is your kde vanilla? |
| 23:43.03 | nichead | well, debian unstable |
| 23:43.11 | nichead | and i run fvwm as window manager |
| 23:43.17 | logixoul | so it isn't. |
| 23:43.25 | nichead | or - i just run kde apps in fvwm |
| 23:43.36 | nichead | but that doesn't matter for other kde apps |
| 23:43.36 | logixoul | maybe you should as at #debian |
| 23:43.45 | nichead | maybe |
| 23:43.59 | logixoul | s/as/ask/ |
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| 23:48.03 | ecastro | Hi, when using kaffeine to watch a streaming video (like mms://200.80.72.153/dd_10_2006.wmv) i have two problems. First... if i paused the video for a long time the when depausing it it play for a couple of seconds and then stops. The other problem is that i cant seek through the video. This happens in every streaming video... any idea how to solve it? |
| 23:50.01 | logixoul | ecastro: iirc it's a known bug that you can't seek in streaming videos |
| 23:50.03 | smileaf | ecastro: welcome to the world of streaming.. |
| 23:50.17 | Renze | pausing a stream is usually a bad idea |
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| 23:50.31 | logixoul | Renze: not that it should be... |
| 23:50.42 | Renze | logixoul: no, but that's the way it is |
| 23:50.46 | logixoul | Renze: sure |
| 23:50.57 | ecastro | the world of streaming in linux! It is not suppose to work like this... |
| 23:51.13 | tvtoon | huum, some similar problem was closed but not solved... |
| 23:51.48 | yeti_ | ecastro: linux is not for streaming porn! it's for downloading porn with ftp and viewing it with aalib ;) |
| 23:52.00 | tvtoon | and since every other problem in my search are older than my KDE... let me ask you people... |
| 23:52.13 | ecastro | the problem of pausing the video is not SO severe as that of seeking... because if seek would work then you can go to the position you left earlier and continue from there |
| 23:52.19 | smileaf | yeti_: aalib++ |
| 23:53.02 | ecastro | yeti_: I download the porn with emule... this is for a tv program and it is only available through streaming! ;) jajaja |
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| 23:53.08 | tvtoon | KWrite changes the default codification in its options to the system's codification sometimes, it has been solved? |
| 23:53.37 | yeti_ | ecastro: emule is sooooo windows. use ftp, ftp is 1337! ;) |
| 23:53.58 | ecastro | yeti_: actually it is amule what i use! |
| 23:53.59 | logixoul | tvtoon: you mean encoding |
| 23:54.01 | smileaf | yeti_: fish:/ |
| 23:54.05 | stoned | donky sucks |
| 23:54.08 | stoned | gnutella sucks |
| 23:54.11 | stoned | torrents rule all |
| 23:54.13 | stoned | thanks |
| 23:54.17 | tvtoon | logixoul, yeah, I mispelled it XD |
| 23:54.17 | stoned | oh and weed |
| 23:54.22 | stoned | can't forget weed |
| 23:54.26 | stoned | well I guess porn rules too |
| 23:54.30 | stoned | and umm.. coke |
| 23:54.32 | stoned | and debian |
| 23:54.37 | stoned | am I annoying enough yet? |
| 23:54.40 | ecastro | stoned: im trying to download something with torrent and it SUCKS BIG TIME! |
| 23:54.41 | stoned | I can go on |
| 23:54.44 | Renze | stoned: what about potato chips? |
| 23:54.45 | yeti_ | smileaf: i have to admit that i don't know what fish wouls do in that context |
| 23:54.46 | logixoul | tvtoon: you mispeled "mispeled"! |
| 23:54.50 | stoned | Renze, that too :) |
| 23:55.00 | smileaf | yeti_: ssh interface :) |
| 23:55.11 | stoned | ecastro, yeah, for people like you its probably not a good idea |
| 23:55.37 | stoned | and yes, I am judging without knowing |
| 23:55.37 | stoned | sue me |
| 23:55.37 | tvtoon | logixoul, no I didn't |
| 23:55.42 | smileaf | stoned: can we get an address so we can? |
| 23:55.46 | tvtoon | It is a regional question... |
| 23:55.50 | Renze | back in a couple of hours |
| 23:55.51 | stoned | address? |
| 23:55.56 | stoned | Renze, see ya |
| 23:56.19 | yeti_ | smileaf: http://roo.no-ip.org/fish/ <- that one? didn't know it could do ssh |
| 23:56.41 | stoned | start a torrent, make sure its being seeded, don't download a dead torrent, and let it run, and please if you use torrents, keep it open for at least a 1:1 if not 1+ ratio |
| 23:56.42 | smileaf | yeti_: no.. in konqueror fish:/iphere/path/ |
| 23:56.57 | stoned | no patience == headaches with torrents |
| 23:56.57 | ecastro | stoned: people like me? what to you mean about that? I'm trying to download a file that is only available with torrents and it download at about 5kB/s... and my conection is capable of 70kB/s |
| 23:57.05 | stoned | ecastro, slow, yet reliable |
| 23:57.12 | logixoul | yeti_: any shell can ssh :) |
| 23:57.15 | yeti_ | smileaf: oh, okay. i guess that shows i don't actually use kde |
| 23:57.19 | stoned | ecastro, learn the torrent protocol, and read some RFCs |
| 23:57.31 | stoned | ecastro, when you learn how torrents work you'll be alright |
| 23:57.40 | yeti_ | logixoul: but none but "ssh" is a "ssh interface" as far as i know ;) |
| 23:57.41 | smileaf | yeti_: has lots of goodies like that ;) |
| 23:58.03 | logixoul | yeti_: in english? |
| 23:58.07 | stoned | ecastro, I can explain, but it would be redundant, there are articles that can explain better than I could on irc |
| 23:58.10 | stoned | ecastro, use google |
| 23:58.22 | stoned | ecastro, if you still need some explanation afterwords, i'll try my best |
| 23:59.20 | yeti_ | logixoul: i'm just being a smartass.. you said any shell could ssh, but since smileaf said fish was a ssh interface, i said that no shell i know of, expect "ssh" , is a "ssh interface" |
| 23:59.36 | ecastro | stoned: thats a bad argument... you dont need to be an engineer to realize that something is good or bad... you just have to be a "user" and feel if it is usable, fast, reliable and that it does what it is suppose to do... |
| 23:59.58 | yeti_ | ecastro: but it does what it is supposed to do |
