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| 00:02.16 | satempler | how do I enable Zeroconf |
| 00:02.38 | satempler | I have avahi-* installed |
| 00:02.54 | Renze | I don't have avahi installed, and zeroconf seems to work well |
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| 00:04.35 | derelm | i just read something about a konqueror bug-day happening here in irc. but which channel? |
| 00:04.49 | Renze | I think that happened yesterday in #konq-bugs |
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| 00:05.12 | Renze | but my yesterday might be your today |
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| 00:05.19 | Renze | pesky timezones |
| 00:06.01 | Phantom784 | hi. i'm trying to transfer an entire folder in KFTP, but it won't move. it says it transfered successfully instantlly, but nothing happens (hope this is the right room to ask this) |
| 00:06.36 | Renze | kftp? |
| 00:06.52 | hydrogen | i didn't know there was a kftp.. |
| 00:06.57 | Renze | neither did I |
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| 00:07.19 | unity | PhilRod: thanks. i hadn't seen it. (in response to the message from two weeks ago) |
| 00:08.03 | Phantom784 | I have it in Kubuntu. the full name is KFTPGrabber |
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| 00:08.34 | Renze | ah... kftpgrabber is not part of the official KDE packages. the official kde ftp client is konqueror |
| 00:09.51 | Phantom784 | i'll just use konqueror then |
| 00:09.58 | Phantom784 | i forgot it could do ftp |
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| 01:34.59 | Darius[TEA] | does anyone know of a command line tool that I can use to modify KDE configuration files? |
| 01:35.34 | lgsobalvarro | Darius[TEA]: you can use whatever text editor... vi, vim, nano, pico, etc rtc |
| 01:35.57 | Darius[TEA] | lgsobalvarro: I want to do it from a program install script, rather than a manual edit |
| 01:36.07 | Renze | sed |
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| 01:36.13 | Darius[TEA] | sort of "Add this section to config file foo if it doesn't exist" |
| 01:36.24 | Renze | echo >> |
| 01:36.29 | Renze | grep |
| 01:36.35 | Darius[TEA] | Renze: Hmm, well I could do shell script stuff but I was hoping for something more sophisticated |
| 01:36.42 | Darius[TEA] | ie something that actually parsed the file :) |
| 01:36.49 | Renze | write a parser |
| 01:37.21 | Darius[TEA] | Renze: sigh, how helpful you are |
| 01:37.22 | Darius[TEA] | not |
| 01:37.46 | Renze | pay me, and I'll be more helpful :P |
| 01:37.48 | kdefreak | lol |
| 01:38.08 | kdefreak | pay me, and I'll learn how to write a parser, and I'll write one :P |
| 01:38.22 | Darius[TEA] | I imagine there's one in Qt |
| 01:38.37 | Darius[TEA] | because KDE developers aren't stupid enough to reinvent the wheel N times |
| 01:39.00 | Renze | Darius[TEA]: good luck finding it |
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| 01:39.21 | Renze | developers don't tend to write gui tools for something they know how to do in the shell |
| 01:39.22 | Theory | I'm not aware of such a thing, but I can see its usefulness |
| 01:39.41 | Theory | Darius[TEA]: have you looked at kiosk, it's built around modifying config files, so might have options/code you can steal |
| 01:40.09 | Darius[TEA] | Theory: ah good idea.. I was hoping there'd be a command line tool handy already |
| 01:40.13 | Darius[TEA] | I'll check it out though |
| 01:41.25 | Darius[TEA] | I want to add a menu to the kicker bar basically |
| 01:41.37 | Darius[TEA] | you can add apps by just placing a file in the right directory, but not menus it seems |
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| 01:41.59 | Darius[TEA] | Renze: http://doc.trolltech.com/3.3/qsettings.html |
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| 01:42.44 | Renze | Darius[TEA]: the menu category structure uses XML, not the QSettings class |
| 01:42.58 | Darius[TEA] | Renze: I have created a menu in XML |
| 01:43.09 | Darius[TEA] | I want to put a button in the kicker bar which pops up my menu |
| 01:43.18 | Darius[TEA] | :D |
| 01:43.24 | Renze | drag and drop from the kmenu |
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| 01:43.44 | Darius[TEA] | Renze: I can't drag and drop because I want it to be an automated install |
| 01:43.52 | Renze | why? |
| 01:44.17 | Darius[TEA] | because I am writing an installer for our software package and I want to use the KDE desktop |
| 01:44.28 | Renze | and the kmenu isn't good enough? |
| 01:44.32 | Darius[TEA] | no |
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| 01:44.36 | Darius[TEA] | well, probably |
| 01:44.38 | Darius[TEA] | but I want both |
| 01:44.52 | Renze | so you're going to force users to have another menu on their kicker even if they don't want one? |
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| 01:45.41 | Darius[TEA] | Renze: it is a very specialised piece of software, and we sell the whole system as one (it is a meteor/wind radar system) |
| 01:46.00 | Renze | so you're going to force users to have another menu on their kicker even if they don't want one? |
| 01:46.06 | Darius[TEA] | I was looking for a way of modifying teh kicker stuff without having to precan the whole kde configuration |
| 01:47.27 | Darius[TEA] | Renze: basically, yes. Our poor users suffer under fvwm95 at the moment |
| 01:47.41 | Renze | it could be worse... they could be using Windows |
| 01:48.18 | Renze | anywho, time for a late lunch |
| 01:49.35 | Darius[TEA] | that must be a really late lunch or you're almost in my timezone |
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| 01:52.16 | kdefreak | can I learn C++ from http://www.mindview.net/Books/TICPP/ThinkingInCPP2e.html ? or should I go out and by myself an expensive book, like they tell me to do in ##C++ ? |
| 01:53.41 | KDEfanboy | you can learn C++ from there |
| 01:54.12 | kdefreak | phew :) |
| 01:55.04 | KDEfanboy | like your nick :P |
| 01:56.06 | Darius[TEA] | mm sounds interesting |
| 01:56.24 | Renze | it would be called a tuna melt in the US |
| 01:56.49 | Darius[TEA] | I'm not in the US :) |
| 01:57.09 | Darius[TEA] | it has cheese on it? |
| 01:57.10 | Renze | yes |
| 01:57.10 | Darius[TEA] | weird |
| 01:57.10 | Darius[TEA] | :) |
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| 01:59.02 | Renze | don't knock it till you've tried it |
| 01:59.13 | Darius[TEA] | fair call |
| 01:59.39 | kdefreak | KDEfanboy: thanks :) |
| 02:00.15 | kdefreak | cheese + tuna + chili ? sounds... different :P |
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| 02:00.56 | Renze | don't forget the mayo |
| 02:00.58 | Darius[TEA] | I was thinking hot tuna + cheese would be odd |
| 02:01.10 | Darius[TEA] | but tuna mornay is nice (white sauce, cheese, tuna, etc) |
| 02:01.18 | Darius[TEA] | damnit you're making me hungry :( |
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| 02:03.27 | neighborlee | http://pics.maunier.org/bd_inconnue_01.gif |
| 02:03.43 | neighborlee | worth a shuckel and is almost on topic <G> |
| 02:04.00 | Darius[TEA] | hehe |
| 02:04.13 | Darius[TEA] | that isn't main's prototype though |
| 02:04.31 | Darius[TEA] | he also needs a \n |
| 02:04.46 | Darius[TEA] | and he's probably a pascal programmer.. starting from 1! |
| 02:04.50 | Darius[TEA] | she? |
| 02:04.58 | kdefreak | bande dessiné? |
| 02:05.00 | Renze | hard to tell |
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| 02:06.11 | p33kabo0 | hello |
| 02:07.37 | kdefreak | neighborlee: LOL |
| 02:07.46 | kdefreak | neighborlee: mind if I put it on my blog? |
| 02:07.59 | neighborlee | sure ;) |
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| 02:25.10 | g333k | Hi, wheres the kde recyble bin, I configured krusader to send deleted files to the recycle bin, but I use gnome... and I dont see that deleted files in the recyble bin.... and the free space on my hard disk is the same... where can I fin those files to really delete them? |
| 02:25.43 | Renze | g333k: ~/.local/share/Trash |
| 02:26.10 | Renze | g333k: gnome doesn't use the freedesktop.org standard, it seems |
| 02:26.51 | g333k | Renze, so how can I solve it... to see the files in the gnome trash? |
| 02:27.06 | Renze | g333k: no idea... I haven't used gnome in a VERY long time |
| 02:27.24 | Renze | g333k: tell the gnome people to use the freedesktop.org standard |
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| 02:30.26 | canllaith | g333k: the gnome recycle bin is ~/.Trash I believe |
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| 02:58.57 | Wyatt | Okay, I have a problem that's been puzzling the hell out of me while trying to get Amarok working. Gentoo with a 2.6.16 kernel. KDE 3.5.1 |
| 02:59.12 | hydrogen | I had that problem too |
| 02:59.27 | Wyatt | I try to start it and it recommends recompiling and then running kbuildsycoca |
| 03:00.04 | Wyatt | The one where kbuildsycoca tells you that none of your mimetypes are defined? |
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| 03:02.23 | Renze | Wyatt: gentoo, 2.6.17 kernel, KDE 3.5.4, and I haven't had any problems with Amarok for the whole time I've been using Gentoo (2 years) |
| 03:02.41 | Renze | Wyatt: I would recommend checking the use flags that Amarok uses |
| 03:03.08 | Jejem[away] | what's the problem?~ |
| 03:03.23 | Wyatt | So I hear from a lot of people. That still doesn't really explain the output of kbuildsycoca though, which is what's messing me up. |
| 03:03.54 | Renze | Wyatt: if the output from kbuildsycoca are warnings, they can safely be ignored... if they are errors, paste them to a pastebin so we can see them |
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| 03:05.02 | Wyatt | Renze: does "kio (KSycoca): ERROR: No database available!" count? |
| 03:05.13 | Renze | Wyatt: looks like a possible permissions problem |
| 03:05.38 | Renze | Wyatt: check the permissions on /tmp and /var/tmp |
| 03:06.06 | Renze | and /var/tmp/kdecache-<username> |
| 03:07.33 | Renze | Wyatt: I assume you're running kbuildsycoca as user and not root? |
| 03:08.21 | Wyatt | yes, as a user |
| 03:08.45 | Renze | just checking... dealt with too many kubuntu users lately who think everything has to have sudo in front of it |
| 03:09.11 | Wyatt | Oh jeeze... |
| 03:10.02 | hydrogen | kbuildsycoca -noincremental <-- try that |
| 03:10.15 | Renze | yeah, try rebuilding the whole thing |
| 03:10.35 | Wyatt | Okay. both /tmp and /var/tmp are at 777 (what? That can't be correct...) |
| 03:10.44 | hydrogen | thats fine |
| 03:10.45 | Renze | that's correct |
| 03:10.57 | Renze | they should be world-writable |
| 03:11.11 | Wyatt | And /var/tmp/kdecache-name is 700... |
| 03:11.53 | Renze | that's fine too |
| 03:12.56 | Wyatt | nope, no dice |
| 03:13.43 | Renze | without a ksycoca database, nothing should be working in KDE |
| 03:13.55 | Renze | no kmenu... no control centre modules... |
| 03:13.57 | Wyatt | Well xmms is working fine. |
| 03:14.02 | Renze | xmms isn't a KDE app |
| 03:14.06 | Jejem[away] | lol |
| 03:14.08 | Wyatt | Really, pretty much everything but amarok and vlc |
| 03:14.20 | Wyatt | Oh, dur. |
| 03:14.39 | Wyatt | kwrite, k3b, konqueror.. |
| 03:16.35 | Wyatt | Yeah, everything I use works. Has been working for a while. (This amarok thing hapened a month or so back and I've been busy) |
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| 03:32.05 | hagabaka | hmm, why doesn't my gtk-qt-engine work? |
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| 04:11.54 | marccollin | are there some kde blog developer who talk about kde4 progress? |
| 04:14.03 | Renze | marccollin: planetkde.org ? |
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| 04:15.02 | marccollin | thank for the link |
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| 04:15.22 | Renze | no problem |
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| 04:18.28 | xdan779 | Hello everyone, I am hoping some one can help me. |
| 04:19.40 | xdan779 | I am trying to get the thunderbird email client to open up links in firefox or konqueror |
| 04:20.14 | xdan779 | mozilla faq point me to setting it as the defualt mail client from the kde control panel |
| 04:21.06 | xdan779 | but thunderbird will still not open up links in any browser |
| 04:21.52 | Renze | can't help you... never used thunderbird, and I suspect it is an internal setting in thunderbird (it doesn't use kcontrol because it's not a KDE app) |
| 04:22.24 | Renze | looks like the mozilla faq is pointing you in the wrong direction |
| 04:22.42 | xdan779 | yes seems to be a running theme |
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| 04:23.02 | xdan779 | at this point I am just hoping to find out if it is even possible |
| 04:23.22 | Renze | ask a thunderbird user |
| 04:23.31 | Renze | I prefer kmail |
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| 04:27.28 | xdan779 | that is what I am looking for here, a KDE/Thunderbird user |
| 04:28.35 | Renze | xdan779: I think most of us use kmail :) |
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| 05:22.43 | Mitja | Is there a KDE plugin that would run apps just like cron does? |
| 05:22.55 | Mitja | I tried from cron, but it complains about the display not being set. |
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| 05:23.23 | Darius[TEA] | what, exactly, is the error? |
| 05:23.28 | Darius[TEA] | and what app are you trying to run? |
| 05:24.00 | boris | OK, here the question, how do I get KDE to dispay in 1440x900 resolution? |
| 05:24.14 | Darius[TEA] | boris: that's an X question, not a KDE question |
| 05:24.25 | Darius[TEA] | and the answer is (probably) add a modeline for that res and tell X to use it |
| 05:25.08 | boris | Well, guess I ask on the X channel. |
| 05:25.13 | Mitja | The error is: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22119. I'm trying to run gaim. |
| 05:25.47 | Darius[TEA] | Mitja: you can run apps from korganizer's alarms |
| 05:26.02 | Ardonik | Mitja: cron probably doesn't run with a full environment, so you'll need to set environment variables like $DISPLAY explicitly |
| 05:26.11 | Darius[TEA] | Mitja: you need your DISPLAY env variable set |
| 05:26.21 | Mitja | Ardonik, I tried in many different ways |
| 05:26.27 | Ardonik | Running X apps from cron is unusual, to say the least. Korganizer is probably better suited for that. |
| 05:26.30 | Darius[TEA] | env DISPLAY=:0 gaim |
| 05:26.32 | Darius[TEA] | try that |
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| 05:32.28 | Mitja | Darius[TEA], it doesn't work. Where do I run apps from Korganizer? |
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| 05:44.27 | toothpick_ | I lost the little icon that has the separate desktops on my bottom panel? Any ideas? |
| 05:44.41 | toothpick_ | I could click on workspace # to go to that section. |
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| 05:52.37 | Mitja | Why does Korganizer still pop up a reminder despite the choice of running an app rather displaying a reminder? |
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| 05:56.19 | Darius[TEA] | Mitja: because it has bugs? |
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| 06:07.34 | golly | hey crew |
| 06:07.51 | golly | anyone help me with smbd for Kde? |
| 06:08.05 | golly | or rather kde samba browser |
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| 06:57.34 | tsdh | Moin. |
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| 07:01.15 | tsdh | Is it normal that enabling Translucency -> [x] Use translucency/shadows, with all other options set to [ ] (I want to make windows translucent manually), is such a performance killer. Without I have about 3300 fps with glxgears, if I enable it it's only about 880 fps... |
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| 07:03.41 | Renze | tsdh: composite and glx do not get on very well. |
| 07:08.59 | tsdh | Renze: Hm, ok. But even the non-glx things seem very slow. If I move a translucent window it's always a little behind my mouse pointer. |
| 07:09.20 | Renze | it depends on your video card/driver as well |
| 07:09.29 | Renze | not all cards are supported fully |
| 07:09.48 | Renze | in fact, on my ATi, composite looks like shit in a blender |
| 07:10.13 | tsdh | Nvidia Go 7400 with their newest drivers. |
| 07:10.16 | tsdh | :-) |
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| 07:22.08 | kantlivelong2 | how can i make an alias out of this using sudo? `sudo sh -c "DISPLAY=:0; ettercap -G"` ? |
| 07:22.38 | Renze | what does that have to do with KDE? |
| 07:23.15 | Darius[TEA] | kantlivelong2: sudo env DISPLAY=:0 ettercap -G |
| 07:23.30 | Darius[TEA] | although why you need to set DISPLAY is beyond me, sudo passes your environment through anyway |
| 07:24.11 | kantlivelong2 | Darius[TEA]: doesnt for me :( |
| 07:24.35 | kantlivelong2 | ah.. i got env_reset... |
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| 07:31.02 | jabba | can anyone tell me, why my kde mounts all my optical-media (dvd,cdrom) perfectly on it's own, but for usb-storage devs it doesn't ? |
| 07:31.17 | jabba | (kde 3.5.4 , gentoo) |
| 07:32.14 | Renze | jabba: modprobe sd_mod |
| 07:32.42 | jabba | the device /dev/sda1 gets created |
| 07:33.15 | Renze | you might want to add that to your /etc/modules.autoload.d/kernel-2.6 file |
| 07:33.36 | jabba | sd_mod 16784 0 |
| 07:33.36 | jabba | scsi_mod 92296 2 sd_mod,usb_storage |
| 07:33.38 | Renze | so what exactly happens? |
| 07:33.40 | jabba | already in |
| 07:34.04 | Renze | because usb storage stuff works fine here (kde 3.5.4, gentoo) |
| 07:34.21 | jabba | under dmesg i can see that the dev is recognized and created at /dev/sda1 |
| 07:34.27 | Renze | but? |
| 07:34.37 | jabba | but it isn't mounted then |
| 07:34.39 | Renze | no hal/dbus/udev magic happening? |
| 07:34.47 | Renze | do you have pmount installed? |
| 07:34.50 | jabba | yes |
| 07:35.02 | jabba | even ivman is running |
| 07:35.07 | Renze | I don't use ivman |
| 07:35.15 | jabba | i have no custom rules |
| 07:35.18 | Renze | me neither |
| 07:35.23 | jabba | hmm |
| 07:35.28 | jabba | strange |
| 07:36.05 | jabba | can u tell me what output would be worth looking at? |
| 07:36.44 | Renze | sorry, no idea... usb storage stuff has always worked for me except for the sd_mod hiccup |
| 07:40.02 | jabba | http://rafb.net/paste/results/mmq8D212.html |
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| 07:42.23 | Renze | for some reason it doesn't think your USB device is removable |
| 07:45.53 | jabba | yep.. |
| 07:45.56 | jabba | for sume reason :( |
| 07:46.02 | jabba | *some |
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| 07:48.25 | astal | hi |
| 07:48.35 | jabba | hello |
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| 07:57.31 | mtyhome | hi |
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| 07:58.31 | mtyhome | i'm using suse, how can i set the shutdown behaviour of kde? |
| 07:58.56 | benJIman | mtyhome: what do you mean by the shutdown behaviour? |
| 07:59.21 | mtyhome | i have user shutdown by default, and i only want root to do that |
| 07:59.52 | benJIman | ah, there's a setting in yast -> security & users -> security iirc |
| 08:00.22 | mtyhome | security iirc? |
| 08:01.02 | benJIman | if I recall correctly |
| 08:01.23 | mtyhome | i don't have such a module |
| 08:01.23 | benJIman | mtyhome: yast -> security & users -> local security -> custom settings, somewhere in the wizard you'll see a "shutdown behaviour of kdm" |
| 08:01.33 | benJIman | mtyhome: it's installed by default |
| 08:01.43 | mtyhome | benJIman: ok that's kdm |
| 08:01.47 | mtyhome | i want kde |
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| 08:01.59 | benJIman | mtyhome: it's the same setting |
| 08:02.25 | mtyhome | as i set it now i can shutdown as a user from kde but not from kdm |
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| 08:03.21 | benJIman | hmm should be same |
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| 08:04.04 | mtyhome | benJIman: trust me |
| 08:04.13 | mtyhome | i'm using suse right now |
| 08:04.30 | RockMan | ciao |
| 08:05.12 | mtyhome | ciao |
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| 08:07.23 | benJIman | mtyhome: if you change it there or in sysconfig it should change permissions so the user can't shut down |
| 08:07.31 | benJIman | did you change kdm manually? |
| 08:08.29 | mtyhome | benJIman: i only checked the rootonly kdm shutdown in local security settings |
| 08:08.48 | mtyhome | i didn't change nothing manually |
| 08:10.25 | benJIman | can you use the shutdown command as a user? |
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| 08:11.22 | mtyhome | nope |
| 08:11.40 | benJIman | hmm I'll have to have a look when I get home |
| 08:15.39 | Renze | ach, mein cranium! |
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| 08:43.22 | kristalino | hi |
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| 08:43.42 | kristalino | i have a problem with kde and the i18n |
| 08:44.01 | kristalino | i'd like to have a uk keyboard and a french localisation. How is it possible ? |
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| 08:48.53 | giangy | kristalino: you can change these options from kde control center |
| 08:49.13 | giangy | (regionals section) |
| 08:49.32 | kristalino | giangy, that's exactly what i tried to do ... without success. I retry |
| 08:50.38 | kristalino | giangy, on the locale menu of "contry/region language" i only have US english. |
| 08:50.53 | giangy | kristalino: then install your kde-i18n-countrycode package.. |
| 08:51.10 | kristalino | and if i want to add langages, i have only "US english" too |
| 08:51.12 | giangy | (such as kde-i18n-fr, kde-i18n-es e.g) |
| 08:51.22 | giangy | kristalino: which distro? |
| 08:51.40 | kristalino | gentoo |
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| 08:53.35 | giangy | well, is better than you ask in #gentoo |
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| 08:58.59 | kristalino | first i'm installing the package kde-i18n |
| 08:59.52 | kristalino | then do i have to restart kde ? |
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| 09:01.31 | giangy | kristalino: after change the language from kde control panel (country/region language), yes |
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| 09:02.28 | kristalino | no iwas talking after installing the kde-i18n package |
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| 09:07.39 | kristalino | where do i change the keyboard layout ? (in the control center. the keyboard layout is empty too) :/ |
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| 09:13.46 | sF|Xemanth | how do i remove ip ban in ktorrent ? |
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| 09:14.03 | sF|Xemanth | i accidentally banned dude and now i want to remove that ban :D |
| 09:15.57 | shining | hehe |
| 09:18.27 | sF|Xemanth | i see lock in front of his ip but i can't find switch how to unban him :| |
| 09:19.08 | Renze | lock in front of the IP means encryption, doesn't it? |
| 09:20.39 | sF|Xemanth | hmm-m i don't know? |
| 09:21.09 | Renze | how did you ban the IP in the first place? |
| 09:21.23 | Renze | context menu in the peers page? |
| 09:21.53 | Renze | (I have no running torrents at the moment, so I have no peers to test with) |
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| 09:22.35 | sF|Xemanth | i clicked his ip with right key and then with left ban peer |
| 09:22.54 | sF|Xemanth | in peers tab |
| 09:23.11 | Renze | is there no unban option in the context menu? |
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| 09:25.13 | sF|Xemanth | nope |
| 09:25.50 | sF|Xemanth | when i ban dude it dissappears from list and then its just dissappeared |
| 09:25.51 | sF|Xemanth | :D |
| 09:26.32 | sF|Xemanth | where is the banned ips list |
| 09:26.36 | Renze | you might want to talk to the authors... it might be a bug :) |
| 09:26.41 | Renze | I have no idea |
| 09:27.31 | Renze | somewhere in ~/.kde/share/apps/ktorrent perhaps? |
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| 09:33.37 | sF|Xemanth | heh |
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| 09:50.36 | tuxedup | when compiling a kde application what would I need to prefix to the make/make install command to defire where the applications documentation should go? |
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| 09:55.28 | junkY_San | how can i make navigation-sidebar and detailed list view the default view for konqueror for all folders? |
| 09:57.56 | koala_man | how do you send a new mail to everyone who received a mail in kmail? like reply to all, only without the 'reply' bit |
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| 10:02.34 | *** topic/#kde by PhilRod -> Latest releases: stable: 3.5.4. See www.kde.org | KDE FAQ: http://docs.kde.org/stable/en/kdebase/faq/ | Please don't flood the channel, use a paste service: http://rafb.net/paste | Please state your distribution and KDE version when asking questions | Don't delete ~/.kde ! |
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| 10:03.03 | Renze | PhilRod: was the triage successful? |
| 10:03.49 | junkY_San | can someone tell me the adress of the konqueror welcome-screen where you can choose media,web browsing,etc. |
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| 10:04.58 | PhilRod | Renze: yeah, reduced the number of UNCONFIRMED konq bugs by 150 |
| 10:05.05 | PhilRod | and got lots of people involved |
| 10:05.06 | Renze | junkY_San: `kde-config --prefix`/share/apps/konqueror/about/ |
| 10:05.11 | Renze | PhilRod: cool :) |
| 10:05.23 | junkY_San | thanks |
| 10:07.31 | junkY_San | Renze: junky@junkY ~ $ `kde-config --prefix`/share/apps/konqueror/about/ |
| 10:07.31 | junkY_San | bash: /usr/kde/3.5/share/apps/konqueror/about/: is a directory |
| 10:07.51 | Renze | junkY_San: duh, put "cd" in front of it |
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| 10:08.13 | Renze | that's where the files (for the most part) are |
| 10:09.47 | junkY_San | thanks |
| 10:09.52 | Renze | no problem |
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| 10:23.28 | junkY_San | anyone using klamav? |
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| 10:25.33 | Phreakys | hi |
| 10:25.45 | nom_s | In Konversation everything freeze for around 10 secs if i rightclick or press ctrl+c on the text bar in order to copy text. During that time i can not do anything else otherwise the operation is canceled. The same thing happens in Konqueror's adress field. |
| 10:25.53 | Phreakys | does anyone know how i can disable kwin when booting up? |
| 10:26.04 | Phreakys | is there a parameter maybe to do so? |
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| 10:29.43 | Phreakys | its because in a xgl-session cgwd is loaded before kde boots up, now, kde is checking why kwin cant run(costs time). would be nice to disable it before |
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| 10:33.34 | PhilRod | Phreakys: oh, I completely forgot about $KDEWM |
| 10:33.39 | PhilRod | GIYF |
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| 10:36.30 | Phreakys | aha |
| 10:37.02 | Phreakys | will check it out phil. thanks |
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| 10:43.51 | joss | anyone using kmplayer? |
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| 10:46.49 | nom_s | anyone ever thought about the similarities between konqi and bonzi buddy? |
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| 10:53.59 | islamguidedotcom | how do i direct kde to output sound to my headphones instead of speaker? |
| 10:55.11 | PhilRod | change the arts device |
| 10:55.24 | PhilRod | control center -> sound & mm -> sound server |
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| 11:24.08 | DexterF | hi |
| 11:24.38 | DexterF | got a test box here, upgraded 3.5.1 to 3.5.4. now unicode doesn't work anymore. anyone know how come? |
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| 11:25.01 | DexterF | sys locale is utf8, but certain sites like http://sylpheed.good-day.net/ja/ display only boxes in konq |
| 11:25.07 | DexterF | same goes for klipper |
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| 11:26.16 | PhilRod | DexterF: made sure you have the appropriate fonts? tried changing encoding in konq? tried with a new user? |
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| 11:26.50 | DexterF | PhilRod: I use Bitstream Vera Sans. They were ok before. |
| 11:27.51 | PhilRod | I can't get that page to display, but I have no idea if I have japanese fonts installed |
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| 11:31.33 | DexterF | fonts... hey, I didn't check if the fonts. I upgraded X, maybe the maintainer changed something there |
| 11:36.49 | DexterF | hm. unable to tell. would need an older version of the X packages... |
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| 11:39.55 | LinuxCart | Hello |
| 11:40.21 | LinuxCart | when I use the bluetooth:/ protocol on konqueror I have just me |
| 11:40.46 | LinuxCart | but when I use hcitool scan I see some more bluetooth just by me |
| 11:40.56 | LinuxCart | what could be happenning¿? |
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| 11:46.39 | islamguidedotcom | hi! how come the kde system guard doesn't remember when i tick the option to not ask me again when i kill a process? |
| 11:49.40 | Phreakys | hm, when i copy a file in ~/Desktop it doenst show up |
| 11:49.55 | Phreakys | i also cant r-click within the desktop aread |
| 11:50.05 | Phreakys | any idea? |
| 11:50.16 | Phreakys | i just installed xgl/compiz/cgwd |
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| 12:01.12 | xanax` | hello |
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| 12:06.05 | BlackBsd | what is a good kde gui for svn? |
| 12:07.57 | bluelightning | BlackBsd: try kdesvn |
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| 12:08.16 | bluelightning | BlackBsd: http://www.alwins-world.de/programs/kdesvn/ |
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| 12:17.18 | joss | so kmplayer someone uses? |
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| 12:21.06 | grimhen | i use this several times but it works good for me only with mplayer |
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| 12:21.25 | grimhen | i have a big problem using this with xmms |
| 12:21.28 | grimhen | sorry |
| 12:21.28 | seraphin_ | damn |
| 12:21.28 | grimhen | xine |
| 12:21.29 | grimhen | :) |
| 12:21.38 | seraphin_ | i have problem with this new kde! |
| 12:21.55 | seraphin_ | something is fscking with mixer settings |
| 12:22.07 | grimhen | what version ? 3.5.4 ? |
| 12:22.13 | seraphin_ | i emerged new kde 3.5.4 |
| 12:22.15 | seraphin_ | yes |
| 12:22.42 | grimhen | and what's tour problem ? |
| 12:22.46 | grimhen | *your |
| 12:22.50 | seraphin_ | i have artsd distabled |
| 12:23.01 | seraphin_ | it was distabled since my kde 3.4 |
| 12:23.11 | seraphin_ | before i do startx |
| 12:23.23 | seraphin_ | i ran mp3blaster on second console |
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| 12:23.54 | seraphin_ | i do startx and when kde finishes starting - the voice almost dissapears |
| 12:24.42 | grimhen | maybe mixer is muted when you start kde ? |
| 12:24.56 | seraphin_ | i must then switch volume to FULL on my speakers and then music i well... only hearable |
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| 12:25.05 | seraphin_ | or i have to do alsamixer restore |
| 12:25.13 | seraphin_ | then it goes back to norm |
| 12:25.22 | grimhen | hmm, strange |
| 12:25.38 | seraphin_ | grimhen: starting kde makes strange effects |
| 12:25.45 | seraphin_ | it changes mi mixer settings |
| 12:25.48 | seraphin_ | my* |
| 12:26.04 | grimhen | maybe you must emrge with artsd :( |
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| 12:26.32 | seraphin_ | when i run gnome instead of kde, then there is no problem |
| 12:27.31 | grimhen | i dont have arts on my kde , but i have no problem with alsa |
| 12:27.33 | seraphin_ | at the very end of kde launching, voice dissapears |
| 12:27.48 | grimhen | i can play mp3 on console and this is no problem on my machine |
| 12:28.10 | seraphin_ | grimhen: i well i have -artsd in my USE= settings |
| 12:28.20 | seraphin_ | (if u know how to play on gentoo) |
| 12:28.23 | grimhen | i have this too |
| 12:28.28 | grimhen | i have gentoo too |
| 12:28.59 | seraphin_ | i had kde 3.4 and there was no problem |
| 12:29.29 | grimhen | what kernel do you have or what version of alsa ? |
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| 12:29.53 | grimhen | i had slackware few months ago and i have similar problem when i update from 3.4 to 3.5 |
| 12:29.58 | grimhen | my sound didnt works |
| 12:30.05 | grimhen | i must update alsa to newer version |
| 12:30.15 | seraphin_ | grimhen: kernel? yesterday one :] |
| 12:30.26 | grimhen | ech ... so you emerge world ? ;) |
| 12:30.30 | seraphin_ | alsa-driver too |
| 12:30.39 | seraphin_ | no, installed new kernel |
| 12:30.44 | seraphin_ | and new alsa-drivers |
| 12:30.49 | grimhen | hmmm |
| 12:30.56 | grimhen | so you have 2.4 series |
| 12:30.58 | grimhen | ? |
| 12:31.05 | seraphin_ | no, 2.6 |
| 12:31.21 | seraphin_ | Linux gentoo 2.6.17.11 #4 SMP PREEMPT Wed Aug 30 15:00:55 CEST 2006 i686 AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2000+ AuthenticAMD GNU/Linux |
| 12:31.34 | seraphin_ | it's not system problem |
| 12:31.48 | islamguidedotcom | xanax`, hi |
| 12:31.48 | seraphin_ | kde runs something it shouldn't |
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| 12:32.03 | grimhen | but in kernel 2.6 you have alsa driver compiled within |
| 12:32.59 | grimhen | you dont need standalone driver |
| 12:33.14 | seraphin_ | i know |
| 12:33.24 | seraphin_ | but the same efect in all 3 ways |
| 12:33.38 | seraphin_ | kernel builtin, kernel modules, alsa-driver modules |
| 12:33.58 | seraphin_ | they WORK, but kde changes mixer settings |
| 12:34.18 | grimhen | what mixer do you have in kde ? |
| 12:34.20 | grimhen | kmix ? |
| 12:34.21 | seraphin_ | when in run gnome instead of kde, then everyting works |
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| 12:34.39 | seraphin_ | i dont use any kde mixer, i use alsamixer |
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| 12:35.21 | XVampireX | The end of an empire |
| 12:35.42 | grimhen | maybe you must try kde mixer and check how its change the value of alsa settings |
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| 12:40.20 | seraphin_ | okay, played with kmix and it looks its working |
| 12:40.48 | seraphin_ | ill try to change few things to make it clean design again |
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| 12:41.02 | grimhen | ok, good luck :) |
| 12:44.58 | seraphin_ | got it |
| 12:44.58 | seraphin_ | working |
| 12:45.23 | seraphin_ | it seems kmix wasn't ever ran and it had to be started once to make verything play smoothly |
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| 12:46.21 | grimhen | so the problem was kmix :) |
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| 12:47.52 | seraphin_ | well, propably yes |
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| 12:58.05 | pinucset | one think, which is the official kde video player?, kaffeine? :S |
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| 12:58.14 | phreakys_ | hello |
| 12:58.34 | phreakys_ | i just upgraded to kde3.5.4, and now i cant place icons on my desktop anymore |
| 12:58.39 | phreakys_ | is there a fix for this? |
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| 13:01.18 | SatanClaus | hiho, does someone of you experience problems with kdesktop when using twinview/xinerama? I can't get the icons to show up on my second screen... |
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| 13:02.11 | SatanClaus | found this https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=132787 , but it's only a wish, even though it worked in prior versions. |
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| 13:13.52 | omeow | I would like to know if you can re-size nodes. The manual I read doesn't seem to talk about this. |
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| 13:20.46 | phreakys_ | hi there |
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| 13:23.18 | Kabal | hi all, I made a mistake by installing gpar2 on my kubuntu lts.. now I can't remove the app.. |
| 13:23.18 | Kabal | http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22136 |
| 13:23.18 | Kabal | What can I do to remove this app? I can't install or remove an other app right now |
| 13:24.08 | wizard123 | Kabal: i think it is apt realted question |
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| 13:24.42 | wizard123 | Kabal: and look at this: subprocess post-removal script returned error exit status 127 |
| 13:25.14 | Kabal | wizard123: oke I will look at that now :) |
| 13:25.23 | wizard123 | Kabal: and on this: /var/lib/dpkg/info/gpar2.postrm: line 25: update-desktop-database: command not found |
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| 13:25.46 | wizard123 | Kabal: something is wrong with package itself |
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| 13:26.05 | wizard123 | but i'm anti-debian and i can't tell you more :D |
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| 13:29.35 | wizard123 | yesterday my roommate was trying to set up kubuntu on his girlfriends machine :D he was close to agony |
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| 13:30.41 | Kabal | well it can be yes :P |
| 13:31.09 | Kabal | this error is horrible.. want to reinstall software but this is not possible in any way :S |
| 13:31.35 | wizard123 | Kabal: check if it uninstalls |
| 13:31.56 | wizard123 | Kabal: cuz error apears when running post-remove script |
| 13:32.05 | wizard123 | Kabal: maybe files are deleted :) |
| 13:32.22 | Kabal | I really don't know |
| 13:32.36 | wizard123 | what are you deinstalling ? |
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| 13:33.45 | wizard123 | ah, upgrade :P |
| 13:33.56 | Kabal | gpar2 must be removed torally... and klibido reinstall.. |
| 13:34.21 | Kabal | upgrade is not the issue.. :) |
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| 13:34.38 | Kabal | I;m not a magician @ the CLI |
| 13:34.54 | logixoul | is anybody using debian here? |
| 13:35.03 | wizard123 | Kabal: issue is that apt ties to run update-desktop-database and those shiet does not exist |
| 13:35.07 | wizard123 | logixoul: nope :D |
| 13:35.38 | wizard123 | Kabal: try editing this: /var/lib/dpkg/info/gpar2.postrm |
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| 13:36.03 | wizard123 | find line with update-desktop-database and just comment it out or cut it off :D |
| 13:36.10 | logixoul | then: is anybody using debian or a derivative (ubuntu, etc) here? |
| 13:36.24 | wizard123 | Kabal have kubuntu |
| 13:36.35 | Kabal | yes |
| 13:36.39 | wizard123 | logixoul: i was using elive for 2 days |
| 13:36.49 | logixoul | Kabal: would you please test a package? |
| 13:36.54 | wizard123 | logixoul: it got on my nerves in every way |
| 13:37.11 | logixoul | Kabal: just to see if you can open it's help. |
| 13:37.15 | Kabal | http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22147 |
| 13:37.30 | logixoul | s/it's/its/ |
| 13:37.33 | manchicken | Is it just me, or did the last release of kmain/kontact (think it's kmail that's the problem, not kontact) cause a lot of problems? |
| 13:38.02 | logixoul | manchicken: my kmail 1.9.4 works perfectly with my gmail acc |
| 13:38.07 | Kabal | i;m confused now |
| 13:38.31 | manchicken | Hmm... |
| 13:38.42 | manchicken | I've got 1.9.4 and it's giving me several weird problems. |
| 13:38.53 | manchicken | Such as mail not fetching on interval as it should. |
| 13:38.54 | Kabal | I can ask --help for everything |
| 13:39.24 | manchicken | And when I switch signatures, it just appends rather than fully switching like it used to. |
| 13:39.29 | logixoul | Kabal: sorry, what? |
| 13:39.55 | Kabal | what kind of package should I test? |
| 13:40.12 | logixoul | Kabal: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=40491 |
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| 13:41.26 | Kabal | logixoul: that's a file manager? |
| 13:41.36 | logixoul | Kabal: sure. |
| 13:41.37 | wizard123 | Type: Filemanager :D |
| 13:42.34 | logixoul | Kabal: an user reports that the documentation doesn't get installed right on his debian, but i use SUSE. |
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| 13:44.37 | Kabal | it's weird that when an app failes to install.. I can't install any other app cuz this error.. :S |
| 13:44.37 | Kabal | oke thanx for the support and I will try to find the awnser. |
| 13:45.24 | logixoul | hmm... are you talking to me? |
| 13:45.33 | Kabal | could be :) |
| 13:45.35 | Kabal | hehe |
| 13:45.41 | Kabal | thanx anyway logixoul |
| 13:45.53 | logixoul | umm... for what? |
| 13:46.02 | logixoul | i haven't helped you. |
| 13:46.18 | wizard123 | Kabal: i think you should ask on #ubuntu |
| 13:46.24 | wizard123 | maybe somebody had simmilar problem |
| 13:46.36 | wizard123 | seems like a broken pkg manager for me |
| 13:46.38 | logixoul | ah, Kabal was having problems with a package before i came in? |
| 13:46.43 | wizard123 | yes |
| 13:47.04 | wizard123 | i was trying to hel him, but i don't know much aout apt |
| 13:47.13 | logixoul | neither do i... |
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| 13:48.00 | Kabal | hehe well thanx anyway guys! :D |
| 13:48.09 | Kabal | I will go to #ubuntu |
| 13:48.27 | TheFuzzball | how do I downgrade from KDE 3.5.4 to KDE 3.5.3? |
| 13:49.38 | logixoul | TheFuzzball: 2 ways: distro packages and compiling. |
| 13:49.59 | logixoul | TheFuzzball: as at your distro/os's channel for the former. |
| 13:50.35 | logixoul | wizard123: do you have anything to do with xwizard? |
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| 13:50.40 | wizard123 | yes |
| 13:50.47 | wizard123 | it is me |
| 13:50.51 | logixoul | ah :) |
| 13:50.57 | wizard123 | i just returned to my old nick |
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| 13:51.19 | logixoul | svunckx: what a cute nick. |
| 13:51.31 | logixoul | hello dhaumann. |
| 13:51.45 | dhaumann | hi all :) |
| 13:52.06 | wizard123 | when i was xwizard too many people suggested that i have something with Xorg :) |
| 13:52.32 | logixoul | wizard123: now you might as well be somebody from the mpg123 team :P |
| 13:52.38 | wizard123 | rotfl |
| 13:53.01 | wizard123 | people usually treat me as a w123 level wizard |
| 13:53.16 | wizard123 | s/w123/123/ |
| 13:53.19 | wizard123 | :S |
| 13:53.47 | wizard123 | apt: i know what i meant you stoopit bot! |
| 13:53.58 | apt | You know what i meant you stoopit bot!? |
| 13:54.45 | wizard123 | :S |
| 13:56.10 | logixoul | no comment... |
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| 13:57.16 | svunckx | logixoul: isnt my nick, its my name ;) |
| 13:57.26 | wizard123 | :D |
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| 13:59.22 | logixoul | svunckx: seriously? what's that, malaisian? swedish? inuit? |
| 13:59.28 | wizard123 | svunckx: from where are you then ? |
| 13:59.29 | wizard123 | :P |
| 13:59.36 | svunckx | dutch, lastname is vunckx |
| 13:59.44 | svunckx | s is beginning of first name |
| 13:59.53 | logixoul | wow. impressive. |
| 13:59.53 | wizard123 | ah, ok |
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| 14:00.24 | svunckx | isnt a common lastname though ^^ |
| 14:00.32 | logixoul | Hello, nice to meecha, my name is Kumzaxjvuckree t'Torbalan. |
| 14:00.49 | logixoul | yea, i can imagine :) |
| 14:00.59 | logixoul | and how's it pronounced? |
| 14:01.02 | logixoul | like vunx? |
| 14:01.08 | logixoul | or voonx? |
| 14:01.21 | svunckx | vunks i guess |
| 14:01.43 | logixoul | okay. |
| 14:02.00 | svunckx | but people tend to make up their own idea how to pronounce it :) |
| 14:02.08 | wizard123 | :) |
| 14:02.58 | wizard123 | in Netherlands most people have 'van' or 'de' or something like that :D |
| 14:03.17 | svunckx | i know |
| 14:03.21 | logixoul | van is just for "noble" people, iirc. |
| 14:03.22 | svunckx | im from belgium btw |
| 14:03.37 | svunckx | my name is supposed to have come from an ancient french word |
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| 14:05.00 | tafsen_ | What service does KNetworkManager use to get the ip/gateway? |
| 14:06.04 | logixoul | tafsen_: wait, i'm checking in the source... |
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| 14:06.11 | tafsen_ | logixoul, thx |
| 14:06.36 | AgasMom | can anyone tell me why the xscreensaver screensavers aren't showing up in the screensaver control panel along side the kscreensavers? |
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| 14:06.54 | tafsen_ | logixoul, because, even if KNetworkManager says that Im connected I need to run dhcpcd or dhclient to get the gateway |
| 14:07.16 | logixoul | AgasMom: they need '.desktop' descriptors, but you probably have those |
| 14:08.46 | logixoul | AgasMom: which KDE and which distro/os? |
| 14:08.48 | AgasMom | I'm on gentoo, perhaps I need to rebuild xscreensavers |
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| 14:09.36 | wizard123 | ok, openbsd burned, reboot :D |
| 14:09.38 | tech9iner | soundoff kdeMates please. favorite wysiwyg html/css editor ?.. know nvu here. any better k way? |
| 14:09.49 | AgasMom | logixoul, kde-3.5 |
| 14:09.52 | tech9iner | no hand coding intended btw lol |
| 14:10.04 | tech9iner | gui dependent here |
| 14:10.20 | logixoul | tech9iner: Quanta+ |
| 14:10.34 | tech9iner | quanta has wysiwyg now? |
| 14:11.00 | tech9iner | didnt last time i booted it bout 2 years back if I recall correctly |
| 14:11.08 | tech9iner | thanks btw logixoul ;] |
| 14:11.18 | logixoul | it's called quanta+. don't call it just quanta, because then it can't be distingushed from quanta gold |
| 14:11.24 | logixoul | yes, it has wysiwig. |
| 14:11.26 | tech9iner | ahh Mea Culpa ;] (my bad ;) |
| 14:11.31 | tech9iner | cool |
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| 14:12.00 | tech9iner | I have always heard me respected gurus refer to it fondly. just assumed it was non wysiwyg n beyond me skills. thanks |
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| 14:13.20 | logixoul | AgasMom: wait a sec... |
| 14:13.56 | AgasMom | logixoul, you got it |
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| 14:14.18 | logixoul | got what? |
| 14:14.49 | AgasMom | logixoul, just saying I will wait a sec as you requested |
| 14:14.53 | logixoul | k |
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| 14:16.15 | tafsen_ | logixoul, did you find anything? |
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| 14:18.08 | _dE | - |
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| 14:22.12 | logixoul | AgasMom: so i was wrong |
| 14:22.32 | logixoul | AgasMom: xscreensavers don't have .desktop files, it seems. |
| 14:22.55 | AgasMom | logixoul, aye, not sure why the app isn't picking it up on this machine but is on my other one |
| 14:24.06 | logixoul | AgasMom: so i was wrong again |
| 14:24.10 | logixoul | AgasMom: they do |
| 14:24.13 | logixoul | AgasMom: check /opt/kde3/share/applnk/System/ScreenSavers |
| 14:24.25 | logixoul | no, that's for suse only |
| 14:24.30 | logixoul | dunno abt gentoo |
| 14:24.40 | logixoul | something like /usr/share/applnk/System/ScreenSavers |
| 14:24.43 | AgasMom | just looked |
| 14:24.50 | AgasMom | fyi: /usr/kde/3.5/share/... |
| 14:25.04 | logixoul | okay |
| 14:25.32 | AgasMom | there are .desktop files there, but they are simply for the kscreensaver's package, same with the 'working' machine |
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| 14:26.54 | Kabal | well my problem is solved :) |
| 14:26.54 | Kabal | just wanted to say that :) |
| 14:27.46 | AgasMom | logixoul, bah, I owe you an apology |
| 14:27.53 | AgasMom | logixoul, my 'working' machine is the same as the other one |
| 14:27.56 | nom_s_ | pls help me for the love of god! |
| 14:27.57 | AgasMom | i'm just an idiot |
| 14:28.19 | logixoul | Kabal: great. |
| 14:28.38 | joe__ | hi, I'm looking for an api to the configuration files. I'd like to be able to change kde's config files easily from shell scripts. Is that possible? If so, can someone point me towards documentation? |
| 14:29.18 | Kabal | I had to remove line 25 in http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22147 |
| 14:29.18 | Kabal | then the remove & purge went great |
| 14:29.18 | SonicChao | Why no screensaver in KDE? |
| 14:29.25 | logixoul | joe__: there's KConfig, which can be accessed from C++, C, ruby, python, Java and several other languages |
| 14:29.29 | SonicChao | When I leave the comp, the screen goes completely black. |
| 14:29.32 | SonicChao | It's confusing me. |
| 14:29.32 | logixoul | joe__: but not from bash script. |
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| 14:30.02 | Kabal | err... line 26 |
| 14:30.34 | logixoul | AgasMom: please rephrase, because i didn't get anything of what you said :) |
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| 14:30.43 | joe__ | logixoul thanks, thats awesome. |
| 14:30.54 | nom_s_ | In Konversation everything freeze for around 10 secs if i rightclick or press ctrl+c on the text bar in order to copy text. During that time i can not do anything else otherwise the operation is canceled. The same thing happens in Konqueror's adress field. Really annoying when you want to paste links etc, pls help me! |
| 14:31.15 | AgasMom | logixoul, I believed my laptop showed me all the screensavers. It doesn't, it shows the same ones as the desktop I just installed. As such, I'm an idiot and apologize to you for wasting your time. |
| 14:31.48 | logixoul | AgasMom: no problem at all, great that you got it working. |
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| 14:32.05 | logixoul | joe__: it is? are you switching your language now? :) |
| 14:33.29 | joe__ | logixoul: yes and yes. I'm just hacking on my desktop right now :-) |
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| 14:34.06 | logixoul | joe__: good. i'd recommend ruby. |
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| 14:35.01 | joe__ | logixoul: do you know of some good documentation? The first google result is a complaint on the lack of docs (!) |
| 14:35.18 | wizard123 | joe__: on rubys site |
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| 14:35.28 | logixoul | joe__: http://ruby-lang.org |
| 14:35.38 | logixoul | joe__: or try wikibooks |
| 14:35.44 | _coolzero | salut a tous |
| 14:35.45 | logixoul | joe__: but it's incomplete there |
| 14:36.05 | logixoul | _coolzero: Đ´Đ°, ĐºĐ°Ñ‚Đ¾ Ñ‡Đµ ли Đ½ĐµÑ‰Đ¾ Ñ€Đ°Đ·Đ±Ñ€Đ°Ñ…! |
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| 14:36.33 | logixoul | joe__: what was your google query? |
| 14:36.39 | joe__ | kcontrol |
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| 14:37.06 | logixoul | joe__: it's KConfig, not KControl |
| 14:37.11 | logixoul | joe__: kcontrol is an app |
| 14:37.18 | logixoul | joe__: kconfig is a class. |
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| 14:37.27 | Buldden | hi |
| 14:37.30 | joe__ | oops |
| 14:37.40 | joe__ | I actually searched for the right thing |
| 14:37.54 | joe__ | I just mistyped to you guys |
| 14:39.12 | Buldden | i have a problem when install quanta and kdevelop in kubuntu from aptitude, this only en english and my sistem is all in spanish, quanta and kdevelop should be in spanish too |
| 14:39.14 | joe__ | so anyway ... I'm looking for the kconfig documentation, not the ruby documentation |
| 14:39.37 | logixoul | joe__: for kde 3.5.x or 4? |
| 14:40.01 | joe__ | 3.5 |
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| 14:40.35 | logixoul | joe__: http://developer.kde.org/documentation/library/3.5-api/kdelibs-apidocs/ |
| 14:40.58 | logixoul | joe__: but go to #kde-devel if you want to ask anything else about kde development, please. |
| 14:41.44 | joe__ | okay, thanks a lot everyone |
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| 14:44.31 | logixoul | XVampireX: what was your distro? |
| 14:44.33 | logixoul | /os? |
| 14:44.45 | XVampireX | hehe |
| 14:44.50 | XVampireX | lets see |
| 14:45.13 | logixoul | ubuntu? |
| 14:45.14 | XVampireX | Sysinfo for 'serge-desktop': Linux 2.6.15-26-686 running KDE 3.5.4, CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 1500MHz at 1495 MHz (2995 bogomips), HD: 19/37GB, RAM: 246/249MB, 102 proc's, 20.53min up |
| 14:45.25 | XVampireX | Can you help me with cups? Or anyone? |
| 14:45.48 | logixoul | XVampireX: is it kde related? |
| 14:45.57 | XVampireX | I need to setup a Canon S300 printer, I got it all working, but there is no driver for S300 specifically, though it's weird |
| 14:46.00 | XVampireX | cups = printer server |
| 14:46.10 | logixoul | i know what's cups |
| 14:46.17 | logixoul | go to #cups |
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| 14:46.27 | XVampireX | There's barely anyone there :P |
| 14:46.43 | logixoul | that's not our problem |
| 14:47.07 | XVampireX | what the heck? |
| 14:47.08 | XVampireX | :P |
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| 14:48.45 | SonicChao | XVampireX: It's not our fault if no one visits CUPS. |
| 14:48.55 | XVampireX | Nor is it mine |
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| 14:49.04 | logixoul | XVampireX: nobody said it was. |
| 14:49.05 | XVampireX | I need help so whoever knows, why not share some knowledge? |
| 14:49.26 | logixoul | because if somebody wants to share it, they are at #cups already. |
| 14:49.52 | SonicChao | XVampireX: I already told you, I'm sorry but don't know anything about Cups. My printer worked outofthebox. |
| 14:49.53 | XVampireX | You're really silly |
| 14:51.02 | logixoul | XVampireX: who, me? |
| 14:52.13 | SonicChao | XVampireX: Is it silly to be dumb when it comes to CUPS? =P |
| 14:52.29 | logixoul | SonicChao: if i were you i'd shut up. |
| 14:52.46 | SonicChao | logixoul: Er, kk. |
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| 15:16.58 | neighborlee | resistance is futile ;0 |
| 15:17.23 | wizard123 | yeah |
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| 15:17.32 | wizard123 | you will be emulated |
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| 15:19.53 | wizard123 | hmm.. i think i'll try openbsd :) |
| 15:20.05 | wizard123 | it seems that it support all my hardware |
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| 15:23.00 | SatanClaus | hiho, does someone of you experience problems with kdesktop when using twinview/xinerama? I can't get the icons to show up on my second screen... |
| 15:23.06 | SatanClaus | hiho, does someone of you experience problems with kdesktop when using twinview/xinerama? I can't get the icons to show up on my second screen... |
| 15:23.18 | wizard123 | why twice :S ? |
| 15:23.34 | neighborlee | wizard123: why not give freespire a run..CNR is free now you know ;-) |
| 15:23.36 | SatanClaus | well, hit the wrong button combo ;) |
| 15:23.55 | wizard123 | neighborlee: freewhat? |
| 15:24.03 | SatanClaus | found this https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=132787 , but it's only a wish, even though it worked in prior versions. |
| 15:24.06 | neighborlee | http://www.freespire.org |
| 15:24.31 | wizard123 | "Linux-based" |
| 15:24.32 | neighborlee | CNR is free now..so you can download anything you need from a comfy GUI ..its reallly very neat |
| 15:25.19 | wizard123 | neighborlee: i don't need comfy GUI :) i need comfortable os |
| 15:25.23 | neighborlee | never tried openbsd as I wanted to maintain hardware compat..linux-compat mode can fail and I need things to just work |
| 15:25.45 | neighborlee | freespire is stable im finding..and the os is comfy yes |
| 15:26.08 | neighborlee | everything works OUT of the box with zero tinkering necessary.. |
| 15:26.24 | wizard123 | neighborlee: me too :) but i don't need anything more that stable kernel, easy pkgmangement and amd64 version :D |
| 15:26.28 | neighborlee | I hate having to struggle to get browser plugins working..here it was all ready to go for me |
| 15:26.46 | neighborlee | ah ok well |
| 15:26.49 | neighborlee | no amd64 atm |
| 15:26.58 | wizard123 | not good :| |
| 15:27.10 | neighborlee | its coming but atm im settling for x86 here even though I do have a 3200+ system |
| 15:27.21 | neighborlee | yeah I know..does bite some |
| 15:27.36 | wizard123 | neighborlee: actually i tried so many linux distros and didn't find anything suitable for me |
| 15:27.53 | wizard123 | even slackware and gentoo couldn't fit my needs |
| 15:27.54 | neighborlee | but the good im getting I felt made it a worthy decision...but yeah I will miss that for a time ;( |
| 15:28.05 | neighborlee | wow |
| 15:28.15 | neighborlee | well ..gentoo IMO would be a massive pain |
| 15:28.21 | neighborlee | kewl but krazy lol |
| 15:28.26 | wizard123 | i use gentoo currently |
| 15:28.39 | neighborlee | well |
| 15:28.40 | wizard123 | i don't have any problems with it, but portage is a pita |
| 15:28.45 | wizard123 | i hate it ;) |
| 15:28.56 | neighborlee | as I say its very kewl..but man their developers can seem to do things without massive wars |
| 15:29.17 | neighborlee | yup portage is i've heard a bit of a pita yes |
| 15:29.30 | wizard123 | gentoo users (called ricers ^^ ) are crazy freaks :P |
| 15:29.40 | neighborlee | LOL |
| 15:30.03 | neighborlee | I hear the founder is back..maybe he can fix things up ;00 |
| 15:30.14 | wizard123 | i don't think so |
| 15:30.21 | wizard123 | i think gentoo will split soon |
| 15:30.25 | wizard123 | :P |
| 15:30.31 | neighborlee | that was my impresssion |
| 15:31.01 | neighborlee | yeah ive gone back and forth between distros too.its been pure HELL trust me |
| 15:31.06 | wizard123 | :) |
| 15:31.13 | neighborlee | when CNR when free I decided to go with freespire and never look back |
| 15:31.20 | neighborlee | im sooo glad I did..really |
| 15:31.56 | wizard123 | actually i grown on slackware :) so all gui configurators makes me cry ;) |
| 15:31.57 | neighborlee | not for everyone I know but...its sure nice when things just work and I can just get to coding ;) |
| 15:32.09 | wizard123 | :) |
| 15:32.14 | neighborlee | ahhh understood |
| 15:32.59 | wizard123 | actually the best os i found is freebsd. but id does not work well on my noname laptop |
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| 15:34.30 | wizard123 | neighborlee: when people made hype around ubuntu i downloaded it and the cd didn't boot xD |
| 15:34.44 | wizard123 | i've decided to not touch it anymore |
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| 15:35.38 | neighborlee | ouch |
| 15:35.51 | neighborlee | well ubuntu is nice for some things, but I find it much hype as well |
| 15:35.55 | method| | how do I get konq to have a tree detailed list view as default? |
| 15:36.01 | neighborlee | installer is still ancient IMO and mainly for geeks |
| 15:36.03 | method| | pclinuxos > ubuntu by far |
| 15:36.24 | method| | pclinuxos is great |
| 15:36.26 | neighborlee | desktop is nice but they stilll make some things harder than itshould be to get to a works out of box stage |
| 15:36.29 | neighborlee | imo |
| 15:36.29 | method| | its highly underrated |
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| 15:36.45 | method| | i think the new suse is better than ubuntu too |
| 15:36.46 | wizard123 | i think all userfriendly linuces are crap for me |
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| 15:37.03 | neighborlee | pclinuxOS is nice from what ive heard yes..does it have a panel applet updater though to keep you informed of new updates ?? |
| 15:37.04 | method| | how do I get konqueror to have a tree detailed list view as default? |
| 15:37.35 | neighborlee | method|: easy..you just press the icon at top of panel and then you get a list view |
| 15:37.41 | neighborlee | its oneof those near middle or so of panel |
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| 15:37.53 | wizard123 | method|: this is irc, not helpdesk :( i would suggest saving view profile |
| 15:39.48 | smileaf_ | wizard123: last I checked anything that related to KDE (including help questions) were valid in the chat... |
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| 15:40.10 | logixoul | wizard123: i agree with smileaf_ |
| 15:40.42 | wizard123 | logixoul, smileaf_ : are you talking about my off-topic chat with neighborlee ? |
| 15:41.12 | logixoul | wizard123: what's "neighborlee"? |
| 15:41.26 | smileaf_ | looks quite on-topic to me... unless your refering to something that was said before I joined. |
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| 15:41.57 | neighborlee | wizard123: no he means: this is irc, not helpdesk :( i would suggest saving view profile |
| 15:42.01 | wizard123 | smileaf_: i we were talking about distros :P |
| 15:42.03 | logixoul | oh... |
| 15:42.22 | neighborlee | anyhoo.... |
| 15:43.44 | wizard123 | damn.. openbsd does not support ufs2 partitions :S |
| 15:43.53 | wizard123 | not good :| |
| 15:44.02 | wizard123 | i have kde sources there |
| 15:44.45 | neighborlee | look out for those owls they are vicious ;00 |
| 15:45.18 | neighborlee | wizard123: sigh |
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| 16:06.30 | XVampireX | WELL |
| 16:06.33 | XVampireX | IN KDE4 |
| 16:06.39 | XVampireX | Tenor |
| 16:06.42 | logixoul | (listens intently) |
| 16:06.42 | XVampireX | What's it gonna be like? |
| 16:06.52 | logixoul | Nothing, with a 50% chance. |
| 16:06.59 | XVampireX | Huh? |
| 16:07.35 | logixoul | scott said he might no work on it anymore, depending on whether he feels like it. |
| 16:07.44 | logixoul | of course somebody else might, but i somehow doubt it. |
| 16:08.28 | wizard123 | what is Tenor? |
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| 16:09.18 | logixoul | The KDE Contextual Linkage Engine |
| 16:10.24 | wizard123 | ugh.. |
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| 16:11.16 | ThrainNB | hello! |
| 16:11.22 | ThrainNB | I've a question about kmail |
| 16:11.28 | ThrainNB | today for the first time I'm using imap |
| 16:11.29 | wizard123 | ehlo ThrainNB , shoot |
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| 16:11.59 | ThrainNB | And the question is: why doesn't kmail automatically apply filters on incoming mail? |
| 16:13.05 | logixoul | what are your set filters? |
| 16:13.06 | ThrainNB | That could be also: is there a way to get filters applied automatically :) ? |
| 16:13.33 | ThrainNB | logixoul: I created the filter right-clicking on the email and then create filter -> by ml id |
| 16:13.56 | wizard123 | ThrainNB: check the filter. maybe you did a typo :P |
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| 16:15.45 | PhilRod | ThrainNB: look in the filter options. Check that filter is set to apply to imap accounts |
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| 16:16.14 | ThrainNB | ok |
| 16:16.35 | aep | hi. can i make konqueror send a diferent user agaent far all sites? |
| 16:17.05 | Bille | aep: yes |
| 16:17.14 | aep | ok, how? |
| 16:17.33 | Bille | aep: Konqueror, Settings->Browser Identification |
| 16:17.38 | ThrainNB | PhilRod: yes, it's set so |
| 16:17.55 | aep | no, theres just buttons for specific sites Bille |
| 16:18.07 | ThrainNB | I've to manually click on "Apply all filters" |
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| 16:19.09 | wizard123 | ThrainNB: if you run filters manually do they work? |
| 16:19.28 | bkudria | kpersonalizer starts everytime i log into kde...how do i make it stop? |
| 16:19.30 | ThrainNB | wizard123: yes |
| 16:19.45 | Bille | aep: try adding rules for .com, .org etc. |
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| 16:20.05 | Bille | the manual says * won't work though |
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| 16:20.43 | lovelyx | what is the packages that contains the utility to make screenshots? |
| 16:21.02 | logixoul | lovelyx: kdeutils, i think |
| 16:21.07 | ThrainNB | wizard123: by the way, kmail does advert me that it can apply the filters only when manually checking for new mails or when manually applying them. |
| 16:21.10 | logixoul | lovelyx: the utility is called ksnapshot |
| 16:21.33 | ThrainNB | wizard123: it doesn't do the automatic job only when the directories are automatically refreshed |
| 16:21.33 | logixoul | lovelyx: it might be in kdebase, tho |
| 16:21.34 | Bille | and i'm gone... |
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| 16:24.59 | aep | Bille manual? |
| 16:25.01 | aep | oh |
| 16:25.08 | aep | where is that manual? |
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| 16:25.23 | aep | man konqueror doesnt exist |
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| 16:25.35 | lovelyx | i think its in kdegraphics |
| 16:25.54 | aep | the manual? |
| 16:25.56 | aep | heh |
| 16:26.04 | ThrainNB | uhm... anyone? |
| 16:26.25 | lovelyx | yes its kde graphics |
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| 16:26.57 | hrw|gone | hi |
| 16:27.06 | wizard123 | hi hrw|gone |
| 16:27.12 | wizard123 | i'm the happy bot, how can i help you? |
| 16:27.21 | hrw|gone | debian 'sid' up-to-date. artsd takes most of cpu time |
| 16:27.26 | hrw|gone | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:27.33 | hrw|gone | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:28.09 | hrw|gone | any ideas? |
| 16:28.22 | wizard123 | 486 ? |
| 16:28.24 | wizard123 | ; |
| 16:28.30 | hrw|gone | wizard123: athlonxp 1.8GHz |
| 16:28.42 | hrw|gone | and nothing played |
| 16:28.47 | hrw|gone | just started session |
| 16:28.52 | wizard123 | i don't know.. arts does not work on my machine at all |
| 16:29.45 | wizard123 | it shows 'cpu overloaded' and quits |
| 16:30.42 | hrw|gone | exactly |
| 16:31.06 | hrw|gone | but if it does not show it then it use 99% cpu |
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| 16:31.49 | wizard123 | hrw|gone: i don't know how to fix it. |
| 16:31.54 | hrw | ok |
| 16:31.59 | wizard123 | hrw: i just disabled arts |
| 16:32.09 | wizard123 | i don't need it |
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| 16:32.52 | wizard123 | this started to happen when i downgraded from 2.6.17 to 2.6.16-hardened |
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| 16:35.59 | nom_s_ | http://www.dn.se/DNet/jsp/polopoly.jsp?d=145&a=569387&rss=1399 |
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| 16:38.14 | wizard123 | nom_s_: enlargeyourpenis.de/50408.html |
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| 16:39.20 | nom_s_ | wizard123: QUEPA! |
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| 16:40.07 | wizard123 | hehe |
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| 16:42.02 | wizard123 | babelfish answered: quepa = fit |
| 16:42.24 | wizard123 | apt x es en quepa |
| 16:42.58 | icwiener | apt x es de quepa |
| 16:43.06 | icwiener | pfff |
| 16:43.08 | icwiener | ;) |
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| 16:44.14 | jcb | Hey, im using akregator version 1.2.4 and its working really well except for 2 rss feeds. When akregator is fetching, it is showing old entries as new ones, so there is duplicates. Can i do something to fix this? |
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| 16:45.22 | shastry | jcb: are you sure its not the feed's fault ? |
| 16:45.36 | wizard123 | i was writing that :_ |
| 16:45.39 | wizard123 | :) |
| 16:45.49 | shastry | hehe |
| 16:45.57 | jcb | shastry: no, it could be the feed |
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| 16:46.20 | jcb | shastry: but firefox is able to fetch them probably |
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| 16:47.00 | shastry | oh |
| 16:47.07 | shastry | care to share the feed ? |
| 16:47.34 | edgy | Hi, I configured kmail to an imap server. but it requires me to be online to read the messages. How can I make them available online, please? |
| 16:48.02 | shastry | ehm |
| 16:48.08 | shastry | you mean make available offline ? |
| 16:48.20 | shastry | (if yes.. use disconnected imap) |
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| 16:50.13 | phichipsi | hi, i would like to modify the menue that comes up on right click (or middle mouse button) so that i can add entries that call some programm in a specific path or run a shell command. how could i do that in kde? |
| 16:50.49 | shastry | right click desktop, Behaviour section |
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| 16:51.00 | shastry | i mean |
| 16:51.04 | shastry | right click, configure |
| 16:51.09 | shastry | or search in kcontrol |
| 16:52.31 | shastry | bbs |
| 16:52.48 | edgy | shastry: are you speaking to me? disconnected imap? |
| 16:52.56 | phichipsi | hmm, i'll try |
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| 16:53.30 | ThrainNB | bof :| |
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| 16:55.13 | cuco | hi all |
| 16:55.47 | cuco | who do i have to sleep with to get a blog on kdedevelopers.org ...? |
| 16:57.00 | Q-collective | cuco: with all of us |
| 16:57.16 | cuco | Q-collective: a/s/l...? |
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| 16:57.43 | Q-collective | hmm? |
| 16:58.08 | cuco | age sex location...? |
| 16:58.51 | cuco | the webmaster of kdevelopers did not reply my mails from the last 2 weeks. this is why i am worried |
| 16:59.27 | Q-collective | hmm |
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| 17:05.35 | Pechorin | how do I change dpi in kde? |
| 17:08.27 | Q-collective | hmm, I know how to change the resolution on the fly, but dpi? |
| 17:08.34 | Q-collective | oh, he already left |
| 17:08.37 | Q-collective | silly noobs |
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| 17:12.40 | BlueG | I emerge kmplayer since everyone here seemed to think highly of it the other day, and I think it looks really nice, but sound isn't working in some of my vids... any ideas? |
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| 17:16.19 | psy_ | BlueG: check the useflags of mplayer, kmplayer ist just a frontend for it so the problem lays probably there. |
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| 17:17.12 | shastry | edgy: yes i was |
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| 17:18.16 | shastry | imo.. kmplayer can use more than just mplayer.. right ? |
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| 17:20.55 | edgy | shastry: I can't find such an option though I search a lot |
| 17:21.15 | shastry | edgy: its there when you create a new account |
| 17:22.00 | edgy | shastry: maybe you are right since I remember I saw it somewhere ;) so I will delete the account and recreate it and see ... |
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| 17:22.27 | shastry | heh it is there.. i use that |
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| 17:23.12 | psy_ | shastry: sure you're right, it can also use xine or gstreamer. personally i prefer kaffeine as frontend for xine over kmplayer |
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| 17:23.24 | shastry | i use kaffeine too \o/ |
| 17:24.07 | Q-collective | Who doesn't? \o/ |
| 17:24.13 | BlueG | yea, my kmplayer is compiled to use gstreamer also |
| 17:24.35 | BlueG | i don't have xine installed |
| 17:24.37 | psy_ | does gstreamer work fine for any of you to play videos? |
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| 17:25.20 | Q-collective | gstreamer depends on gnome stuff too much imho |
| 17:25.41 | edgy | shastry: i created a new account. The options available are: store password, compat folders, show hidden folders, show only subscribed folders, load attachments, list only open folders, include manual mail check, enable interval mail checking, security, filtering, trash folder. that's all |
| 17:25.51 | shastry | edgy: nooo... |
| 17:26.02 | shastry | when you create a new account.. you can specify what account type |
| 17:26.03 | psy_ | BlueG: default is to use mplayer if i'm not wrong, so if you didn't change anything in the kmplayer configuration it should use it which is fine for playing videos :) |
| 17:26.06 | shastry | pop, imap, disconnected imap |
| 17:26.16 | edgy | shastry: aha! |
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| 17:26.52 | psy_ | Q-collective: i hope xine gets support for wmv soon, too. mplayer works really smooth now on amd64 without the need of win32codecs |
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| 17:27.20 | Q-collective | psy_: xine plays wmv's just fine for me |
| 17:27.30 | Q-collective | it already does for years now |
| 17:27.41 | psy_ | sure, but not on x86_64 |
| 17:27.44 | Pinaraf | Q-collective: using win32codecs |
| 17:28.30 | psy_ | at least not if it's compiled as 64bit |
| 17:28.30 | Q-collective | psy_: right |
| 17:29.02 | psy_ | Q-collective: mplayer got native support for wmv added now |
| 17:29.13 | Q-collective | that's nice |
| 17:29.51 | BlueG | really, mplayer supports wmv natively? is there any reason for me to have win32codecs now? |
| 17:30.03 | psy_ | or ffmpeg which is included in mplayer, i'm not too much into this, at least it works now :) |
| 17:30.53 | psy_ | BlueG: not really, but you need the cvs/svn version. don't know if there's a release which includes support for wmv yet. |
| 17:31.20 | BlueG | ohhh |
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| 17:33.23 | edgy | shastry: thx a lot for the help. it's downloading now I think. I will report back what happens. stay tuned ;) |
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| 17:33.52 | shastry | \o/ |
| 17:34.12 | SinnerP | <PROTECTED> |
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| 17:42.43 | Chaks | hi all |
| 17:42.49 | Chaks | any kde developers here? |
| 17:42.57 | Chaks | need some help in building kcontrol module |
| 17:43.16 | edgy | shastry: it reached 85% but no single message downloaded and no indication of how many messages, is this normal? |
| 17:43.35 | shastry | oh hmm dunno.. it was working good here |
| 17:43.39 | shastry | let it go 100% |
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| 17:47.33 | Q-collective | Jejem: away messages are considered to be highly annoying, could you please turn it off? |
| 17:47.40 | shastry | edgy: you can always restart the app .. |
| 17:47.51 | omeow | How do I stop the taskbar from being semi transparent when I enable opacity for the window decorations? |
| 17:47.55 | shastry | away nicks are annoying too! :D |
| 17:48.09 | omeow | In panel background, "enable transparency" is disabled. |
| 17:48.41 | edgy | shastry: ok I will do ... |
| 17:48.49 | shastry | omeow: set the transparency on Dock Windows ? |
| 17:49.26 | omeow | You make it sound as if I should have known that. =P |
| 17:50.13 | omeow | Sadly that doesn't seem to be enabled. |
| 17:50.24 | shastry | ow |
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| 17:51.00 | omeow | And while the slider is disabled, it's at 100%. |
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| 17:53.55 | edgy | shastry: though it's saying there (3) unread messages I can see no message at all. I know there is more than a 1000 messages. I am now rebuilding the cache and refreshing. Hope it works ... |
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| 17:55.57 | shastry | ok, good luck |
| 17:55.58 | omeow | shastry, I disabled all opacity options in the translucency tab and it still happens. :) |
| 17:56.21 | omeow | Maybe it needs a restart or something. |
| 17:56.23 | LinuxRD | hi all!! |
| 17:56.24 | LinuxRD | :D |
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| 18:01.54 | yavor | how can I add a suse repo to Smart package manager so I download and install KDE4 |
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| 18:03.11 | mangz74 | :) |
| 18:03.44 | PhilRod | hi mangz74 |
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| 18:04.33 | edgy | shastry: great! now it worked. but how can I convince kmail to remove the mails from the server? ;) |
| 18:04.53 | shastry | edgy: on imap.. by deleting your own.. |
| 18:04.59 | shastry | imap is always in sync.. |
| 18:05.06 | shastry | or.. you can move the message to a local folder |
| 18:05.09 | shastry | and it will be synced |
| 18:05.21 | shastry | thus effectively removed from the server |
| 18:05.22 | edgy | shastry: Umm! so this the diff between imap and pop. I got it now. thx a lot |
| 18:05.36 | shastry | np |
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| 18:05.53 | shastry | also... on pop.. messages are compulsorily downloaded |
| 18:06.17 | shastry | on imap.. you can just get the headers.. no need of full message unless you specify (or use disconnected imap thingy) |
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| 18:13.48 | edgy | shastry: now when I right click the inbox there is a subscription option. I can't understand what would it do. any hint please? |
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| 18:17.26 | shastry | subscription is like.. http://graphics.stanford.edu/lab/mail/imap.html read the subscription section there :) |
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| 18:29.53 | edgy | shastry: I am sorry but I almost understand nothing from that page ;) What shall a subscription provides me that I don't have now? |
| 18:30.16 | edgy | shastry: I can now read the messages of my inbox, so what am I missing? |
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| 18:31.31 | shastry | edgy: nothing |
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| 18:31.37 | shastry | just leave it as it is if you dont understand |
| 18:31.44 | shastry | i'll try to explain.. |
| 18:32.04 | shastry | in subscription.. you can "select" what imap folders you want to view or not view |
| 18:32.21 | shastry | if you leave it as it is.. imo all will be subscribed.. meaning.. view all folders |
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| 18:34.03 | edgy | shastry: but there is only one folder "inbox" and for the trash and the outbox it's using my local folders not those on the servers, am I wrong? |
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| 18:35.00 | shastry | edgy: it depends on your setup |
| 18:35.04 | shastry | i have lots of subfolders |
| 18:35.17 | shastry | like.. private, work, school, fun etc etc |
| 18:35.38 | shastry | i also have rules/filters to move mail from specific ppl to be moved to the respective folders |
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| 18:37.10 | edgy | shastry: aha! I got it now. thx a lot |
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| 18:39.44 | _Bille | shastry: were you the guy asking about groupwise support, a couple of days ago? |
| 18:39.56 | shastry | _Bille: nop |
| 18:39.59 | shastry | nope* |
| 18:40.21 | shastry | (i dont even know what groupwise is :>) |
| 18:40.37 | expose | Okay - i got firefox startet, maximized, closed, restartet - and it doesnt start maximized again. |
| 18:40.39 | expose | How to fix it? |
| 18:40.49 | expose | i thought kwin would remember window sizes etc |
| 18:41.26 | krillr | it should, but if not, click on the applications icon on the window title bar thingy (im tired, i cant remember what things are really called right now) |
| 18:41.34 | krillr | go to Configure Window Behavior |
| 18:41.43 | krillr | and click on the Window-Specific Settings |
| 18:41.52 | krillr | that might work |
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| 18:43.39 | shastry | just asking .. what distro do you guys use ? |
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| 18:44.22 | expose | shastry: gentoo |
| 18:44.24 | expose | krillr: thanks |
| 18:44.29 | expose | (worked) |
| 18:44.37 | krillr | expose: no problem :-) |
| 18:44.39 | edgy | shastry: ubuntu |
| 18:44.58 | shastry | ah |
| 18:45.16 | isolationist_ | shastry: mine based on LFS |
| 18:45.40 | edgy | shastry: fedora also |
| 18:45.40 | shastry | isolationist_: custom distro ? |
| 18:45.44 | shastry | that too with kde ? |
| 18:45.59 | hagabaka | Under the "B II" window decoration, the title bars automatically move by themselves so they are always visible. You can edit your title bar decoration by right clicking on your title bar and selecting "Configure Window Behavior...". |
| 18:46.08 | hagabaka | why doesn't mine move? |
| 18:46.16 | shastry | edgy: dual boot ? multiple machines ? |
| 18:46.28 | isolationist_ | shastry: well sort of, i wouldn't call it a distro as it is customised for my laptop - it is full KDE and supports all my hardware |
| 18:46.30 | edgy | shastry: multiple machines |
| 18:46.56 | hagabaka | oh, they seem to work when i launch new applications, but not when i move windows |
| 18:46.59 | shastry | isolationist_: oh ok |
| 18:47.02 | shastry | edgy: ag |
| 18:47.03 | shastry | ah* |
| 18:47.16 | isolationist_ | shastry: i built LFS and followed BLFS for KDE stuff and did lots of modifications specific to my laptop |
| 18:48.31 | hagabaka | hmm, this B II stuff is pretty cool |
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| 18:49.29 | shaggyoaf | when I run konsole, it doesn't seem to be sourcing ~/.bash_profile or ~/.bashrc |
| 18:49.54 | _Bille | could really noone point out to aep earlier that the konqueror manual is available via Help->Konqueror manual? instead of telling him it was in kde graphics? |
| 18:50.08 | shaggyoaf | I've tried having it execute "bash --login" which is that the bash manpage says will invoke a login session but it still doesn't seem to be doing it |
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| 18:52.00 | shastry | shaggyoaf: .bashrc is _always_ sourced |
| 18:52.03 | derekS | hi, i am wondering if anyone knows the fix for xdmcp listening on udp6 instead of udp? |
| 18:52.21 | derekS | for linux |
| 18:52.29 | derekS | kubuntu dapper in particular |
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| 18:53.57 | shaggyoaf | shastry: not to be belligerent, but I'm going to have to disagree with you there. I have PS1 colors in my ~/.bashrc and they don't show up until I type '. .bashrc' |
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| 18:55.08 | shaggyoaf | shastry: other things (like keychain) got invoked when I logged into KDE |
| 18:55.09 | shaggyoaf | shastry: but the session-local stuff isn't getting done. |
| 18:55.09 | tech9iner | shastry RIDEz again!!! woohoo |
| 18:55.10 | shastry | shaggyoaf: do you have "export PS1" or just PS1 = ? |
| 18:55.10 | shastry | zomg tech9iner!!!!!!! |
| 18:55.10 | tech9iner | lol |
| 18:55.11 | tech9iner | you you wants me |
| 18:55.12 | tech9iner | lol |
| 18:55.17 | shastry | hehe |
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| 18:55.26 | tech9iner | alls well pal0mine shastry ? |
| 18:55.32 | shastry | yeah |
| 18:55.34 | shaggyoaf | shastry: export |
| 18:55.35 | shastry | you ? |
| 18:55.50 | shastry | shaggyoaf: thats weird then |
| 18:56.01 | isolationist_ | shaggyoaf: what is it you are trying to do? |
| 18:56.01 | tech9iner | shastry btw. whats core distro this day n age mate?.. and I am as ugly as eva. but long as the gf's bring me hot food. no complaints ;]] |
| 18:56.17 | shastry | tech9iner: haha |
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| 18:56.25 | shastry | hats core distro this day n age mate? < didnt get you there |
| 18:56.28 | shastry | whats* |
| 18:56.28 | tech9iner | shastry what you bootn these days.. |
| 18:56.32 | tech9iner | what distro |
| 18:56.33 | shastry | arch ofcourse |
| 18:56.34 | shaggyoaf | isolationist_: I just want konsole to invoke bash in a way that it sources my ~/.bashrc file |
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| 18:56.42 | tech9iner | ahh. recall hussam ? |
| 18:56.46 | shastry | yeah |
| 18:56.50 | hydrogen | add . ~/.bashrc to ~/.bash_login |
| 18:56.50 | tech9iner | pal too |
| 18:56.54 | shastry | ooh |
| 18:57.02 | isolationist_ | shaggyoaf: so you just want it to read your ~/.bashrc when you invoke konsole or an interactive shell? |
| 18:57.18 | shaggyoaf | isolationist_: yep |
| 18:57.24 | shastry | tech9iner: local or online ? |
| 18:57.31 | isolationist_ | shaggyoaf: have you created the ~/.bashrc file? |
| 18:57.36 | tech9iner | online shastry .. |
| 18:57.56 | shaggyoaf | isolationist_: yep, and everything in it works just like I want it to when I manually type ". .bashrc" after konsole comes up |
| 18:57.58 | tech9iner | like all us sods here shastry .. lol. digital realms only ;] |
| 18:57.58 | shastry | tech9iner: ah ok. Hes missing again .. doenst show up that much |
| 18:58.02 | shastry | lol |
| 18:58.06 | tech9iner | yepper |
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| 18:58.28 | tech9iner | chat him up bout once per wk. he said he'd been quite active on arch a bit |
| 18:58.30 | isolationist_ | erm so what is the problem shaggyoaf? |
| 18:58.37 | tech9iner | but was backn off shastry |
| 18:58.50 | shastry | yeah |
| 18:58.55 | shastry | he had real issues with HAL |
| 18:58.59 | shaggyoaf | isolationist_: heh, I don't want to type ". .bashrc" every !@#$ing time I start a new konsole :) |
| 18:59.03 | shastry | later told me that it turned out to be bad harddisk |
| 18:59.27 | shaggyoaf | isolationist_: I want that to happen automagically |
| 18:59.28 | isolationist_ | okay but from reading what you said, "okay your answer was ambigious" |
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| 18:59.36 | shastry | tech9iner: and yeah, he packages good stuff for arch |
| 18:59.45 | Bittin | Hi tech9iner |
| 18:59.57 | isolationist_ | what are permissions and ownerships of your ~/.bashrc shaggyoaf? |
| 19:00.01 | tech9iner | shastry anyhoo chum. yes yes. thats what he mentioned. forgot here ;].. |
| 19:00.13 | shaggyoaf | isolationist_: -rw-r--r-- |
| 19:00.15 | tech9iner | lo lo Bittin .. gettin all the bugs outta suse/kde mate? |
| 19:00.23 | isolationist_ | shaggyoaf: and ownership? |
| 19:00.31 | shaggyoaf | isolationist_: (user and group are dmiles which is the user I'm logged in as) |
| 19:00.32 | Bittin | tech9iner: Yepp |
| 19:00.48 | tech9iner | gratz indeed laddie Bittin ;].. niyice |
| 19:00.52 | isolationist_ | also what runlevel are you in shaggyoaf? |
| 19:01.01 | Bittin | tech9iner: Thx ;) |
| 19:01.01 | shaggyoaf | isolationist_: hang on |
| 19:01.07 | Bittin | tech9iner: Do u now if Wine is good? |
| 19:01.13 | shaggyoaf | isolationist_: 2 |
| 19:01.29 | shaggyoaf | isolationist_: (that's what's in /etc/inittab and I haven't run any telinit's) |
| 19:01.35 | tech9iner | naw. ran wine bits like 3x in 5+ years of nux here Bittin .. sorry lad.. |
| 19:01.44 | shastry | wine as in software or beverage ? |
| 19:01.45 | shaggyoaf | isolationist_: should I switch to 5? |
| 19:01.49 | Bittin | ok tech9iner :D |
| 19:01.53 | Bittin | shastry: Software |
| 19:01.54 | tech9iner | Bittin dont forgot there is wine irc channel too |
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| 19:02.06 | shastry | well.. its ok .. depending on what software you wanna run |
| 19:02.07 | Bittin | tech9iner: ok i gonna test that program l8er :) |
| 19:02.15 | Bittin | shastry: windows xp :) |
| 19:02.19 | tech9iner | shastry well. keep your paws off my few grrls but otherwise chum. have finest day you can now ;].. ciao4now.. ;]] Wink;Wink ;] |
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| 19:02.22 | shastry | you cant run windows on wine |
| 19:02.28 | tech9iner | Bittin luck be thine lad ;] |
| 19:02.33 | shastry | tech9iner: haha cya |
| 19:02.38 | tech9iner | ;] |
| 19:03.03 | shastry | Bittin: wine provides a way to run windows apps.. not install windows |
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| 19:03.33 | shaggyoaf | Bittin: you need a virtualization platform to do that. VMware works well and xen is free although you'll need special hardware to run windows if you try to use xen. |
| 19:03.52 | shastry | and theres also parallels.. (new to the field... but ok) |
| 19:04.03 | shastry | and qemu, boschs :P |
| 19:04.18 | shaggyoaf | isolationist_: is rc2 the wrong one? |
| 19:04.19 | shastry | aah win4lin too |
| 19:04.21 | Bittin | shastry: i know but like playing games ut2k4 steam :D |
| 19:04.26 | shastry | Bittin: ooh |
| 19:04.33 | shastry | Bittin: you might wannna look at cedega |
| 19:04.40 | Bittin | ok |
| 19:04.45 | shastry | unreal already has linux binaries |
| 19:04.48 | Bittin | i can do that l8er :D |
| 19:04.54 | Bittin | shastry: dont know how to install them :( |
| 19:05.11 | shastry | just grab the .bin and chmod +x thatfile |
| 19:05.14 | shastry | ./thatfile |
| 19:05.14 | isolationist_ | shaggyoaf: depends on your needs - i use rc 5 and have it start up KDM on boot |
| 19:05.19 | Bittin | ok l8er |
| 19:05.22 | shastry | ok cya |
| 19:05.29 | Bittin | can somone help me find 3D card drivers? |
| 19:05.30 | shaggyoaf | isolationist_: in kubuntu, rc2 does that as well |
| 19:05.37 | Bittin | for Radeon HT 9550? |
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| 19:05.51 | Bittin | i running Open SuSE 10.1 |
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| 19:06.13 | isolationist_ | shaggyoaf: yup, depends on the distro or how you've configured it - no set rules |
| 19:06.26 | isolationist_ | rc 5 is common however |
| 19:07.01 | shaggyoaf | isolationist_: right, but does konsole do some sort of runlevel check before executing bash? |
| 19:07.12 | shaggyoaf | isolationist_: (I'm just trying to figure out why you asked me this) |
| 19:10.19 | isolationist_ | i am not sure what the problem is shaggyoaf, you are running an interactive shell so it should execute ~/.bashrc |
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| 19:11.09 | derekS | can *anyone* help me figure out why xdmcp via kdm listens on udp6 instead of udp on kubuntu dapper? googling it, it seems like a common problem, but haven't seen any fix for linux... |
| 19:11.15 | shaggyoaf | isolationist_: I'm not sure what you mean by 'interactive' shell... is there a way I could be invoking konsole that starts a non-interactive shell? |
| 19:12.28 | isolationist_ | no, non-interactive would be ina script, e.g. #/bin/bash |
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| 19:12.36 | isolationist_ | puzzling |
| 19:13.15 | edgy | shaggyoaf: what's your problem? your .bashrc is not read automatically? |
| 19:13.20 | isolationist_ | try putting something like -> echo "hello" in the .bashrc script and see if it shows when you execute konsole |
| 19:13.30 | shaggyoaf | edgy: correct |
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| 19:13.44 | shaggyoaf | isolationist_: tried it, it does not show |
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| 19:15.28 | shastry | shaggyoaf: is bash the shell you use or is it sh ? |
| 19:15.32 | shastry | echo $SHELL |
| 19:15.48 | shaggyoaf | shastry: hmm, that variable seems to be unset |
| 19:16.04 | shaggyoaf | shastry: nm, typo... it says /bin/sh |
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| 19:16.41 | shaggyoaf | shastry: but /bin/sh is a symlink to /bin/bash |
| 19:16.52 | shaggyoaf | edgy: any ideas? |
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| 19:17.19 | edgy | shaggyoaf: if you put a line like this: echo hi and started a konsole won't you see any output? |
| 19:17.19 | shastry | eww |
| 19:17.22 | shastry | shaggyoaf: |
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| 19:17.31 | shastry | if its sh.. then .bashrc wont be used |
| 19:17.32 | shaggyoaf | edgy: it doesn't show |
| 19:17.36 | shastry | bash behaves differently when called as sh |
| 19:17.45 | shastry | it uses bourne compatibility |
| 19:17.54 | shastry | change the shell to /bin/bash in konsole |
| 19:17.55 | shaggyoaf | shastry: should I change that var in /etc/profile? |
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| 19:18.28 | shastry | $SHELL is set automatically by the shell.. you must not touch it |
| 19:18.28 | isolationist_ | change it in your /etc/passwd |
| 19:18.39 | shastry | yeah there too |
| 19:18.40 | shaggyoaf | shastry: Ok, when I change that environment var and start a konsole, it works |
| 19:18.53 | shastry | shaggyoaf: try chsh |
| 19:18.59 | shastry | or do what isolationist_ said |
| 19:19.11 | isolationist_ | you specify the default shell in /etc/passwd and you should have /bin/bash listed in your /etc/shells to make this allowable |
| 19:19.20 | shaggyoaf | isolationist_: my /etc/passwd has /bin/bash for my user |
| 19:19.26 | edgy | shaggyoaf: in your bash_profile do you have a line to laod .bashrc? |
| 19:19.34 | shaggyoaf | edgy: yep |
| 19:19.37 | shastry | shaggyoaf: then change in konsole |
| 19:19.42 | shastry | konsole settings.. |
| 19:19.55 | isolationist_ | but you shouldn't have to do a thing to konsole |
| 19:20.05 | shastry | you shouldnt.. yes :/ |
| 19:20.11 | shastry | but this seems weird |
| 19:20.25 | isolationist_ | i would try to find the root cause if possible :( |
| 19:20.34 | shastry | i would too :D |
| 19:20.39 | shastry | but i dont know if shaggyoaf would |
| 19:20.46 | isolationist_ | ah ok :) |
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| 19:20.51 | edgy | shaggyoaf: can you please try putting that line in bash.bashrc and check |
| 19:21.03 | shastry | edgy: i dont think thats the problem |
| 19:21.20 | shastry | a different shell is being executed instead of bash |
| 19:21.23 | isolationist_ | ah, now in my .bash_profile i've got a line that sources $HOME/.bashrc |
| 19:21.54 | muteW | I managed to get dbus and hald running but now compiling kdebase seems to be giving an error. |
| 19:22.37 | muteW | Well it skips over the error, and media:/ is empty all the time. |
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| 19:30.23 | paveq | hi |
| 19:30.29 | paveq | https://blitzkrieg.homelinux.org/~paveq/konq.png |
| 19:30.34 | paveq | I wonder if that is bug |
| 19:30.45 | paveq | running debian etch here |
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| 19:31.56 | shastry | heh looks funny |
| 19:32.08 | paveq | it isn't funny |
| 19:32.15 | derekS | paveq: is it mounted correctly |
| 19:32.33 | shastry | i'm sorry.. |
| 19:32.49 | derekS | paveq: ls -l /mnt/drivehere |
| 19:32.51 | derekS | err |
| 19:32.52 | derekS | df -h |
| 19:32.55 | derekS | not ls -l |
| 19:33.01 | derekS | and you don't need the /mnt part |
| 19:33.05 | derekS | so just df -h |
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| 19:34.24 | shaggyoaf | isolationist_, shastry: thanks for the help, it turns out that my .bashrc file had a line: export SHELL=/bin/sh so when KDE sourced it logging in, that environment var got reset |
| 19:34.27 | shaggyoaf | it's working now |
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| 19:34.31 | shastry | lol |
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| 19:34.40 | shastry | np |
| 19:34.57 | shaggyoaf | I've had this .bashrc file for about six years now on all manner of different linux boxes... At some point that line probably made sense |
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| 19:41.32 | paveq | derekS: I meant the toolbar |
| 19:41.44 | derekS | ? |
| 19:42.06 | isolationist_ | glad you got it working shaggyoaf :) |
| 19:42.07 | paveq | don't you see that I'm missing some toolbar buttons and menus |
| 19:42.11 | derekS | oh i didn't see that :) |
| 19:42.14 | paveq | :P |
| 19:42.26 | derekS | killall konqueror... and try again? |
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| 19:43.36 | paveq | derekS: nope :( |
| 19:43.45 | derekS | dunno then |
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| 19:43.49 | derekS | try restarting kde |
| 19:48.12 | expose | krillr: for some odd reason, firefox geometry is now remembered although i deleted the behaviour rule again |
| 19:48.39 | expose | (deleted it, becuase it made js-questions, and all other popup things maximized also |
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| 19:49.02 | expose | like "enter pwd to access"-windows |
| 19:49.04 | athlonmax | how to make true type fonts work on linux |
| 19:49.26 | athlonmax | because whatever you do,it cannot render it correctly |
| 19:49.33 | derekS | can *anyone* help me figure out why xdmcp via kdm listens on udp6 instead of udp on kubuntu dapper? googling it, it seems like a common problem, but haven't seen any fix for linux... |
| 19:51.52 | athlonmax | how to render true type and have the same fonts in konqueror or firefox you have in intyernet explorer in xp.how ? |
| 19:51.59 | expose | athlonmax: asked google? and what is "cannot render it correctly" exactly? i didnt do anything special and i even print elementary school graduations with it |
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| 19:52.09 | athlonmax | I can pay for the guy who provides me with the answer :) |
| 19:52.16 | athlonmax | yes |
| 19:52.26 | athlonmax | it renders them bolded |
| 19:52.30 | athlonmax | horrible |
| 19:52.32 | expose | We are not buyable. |
| 19:52.39 | expose | Get antialiasing working. |
| 19:52.44 | athlonmax | It is not the same size |
| 19:52.58 | expose | Get a font server maybe if you want to, and correct your settings. |
| 19:53.09 | expose | Oh, and use the 3rd half of your brain of course. |
| 19:53.09 | athlonmax | in linux the font seems being in bold ,nthough you choose regular font size |
| 19:53.30 | athlonmax | hey |
| 19:53.32 | athlonmax | help me |
| 19:53.35 | expose | what is "in linux"? |
| 19:53.41 | athlonmax | I import fonts and use them |
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| 19:53.49 | expose | athlonmax: dont you know what the 3rd half is? google! :-) |
| 19:53.53 | athlonmax | I just want to know hwhat fonts Internet explorer uses |
| 19:54.01 | athlonmax | verdana ? tahome ? |
| 19:54.04 | athlonmax | verdana ? tahoma ? |
| 19:54.05 | expose | i am pretty sure all about that can be easily found there as it is a popular topic. |
| 19:54.07 | athlonmax | times |
| 19:54.11 | athlonmax | courier |
| 19:54.12 | expose | dont |
| 19:54.13 | expose | hit |
| 19:54.13 | expose | enter |
| 19:54.14 | expose | so |
| 19:54.15 | expose | often |
| 19:54.17 | expose | okay? |
| 19:54.20 | athlonmax | o |
| 19:54.21 | athlonmax | k |
| 19:54.38 | canllaith | athlonmax: you want the msttcorefonts, many distributions have a package for it |
| 19:54.39 | dZiKi | hell(o) everyone ;) |
| 19:54.55 | benJIman | if you want them to look like on windows you'll have to enable the bytecode interpreter for freetype |
| 19:55.13 | athlonmax | yes |
| 19:55.16 | canllaith | hrm maybe 1920x1440 is a wee bit too high a resolution when hungover |
| 19:55.18 | expose | derekS: as far as i can remember there is some setting somewhere in /etc in some config :-) grep through that dir |
| 19:55.20 | athlonmax | but when I install it |
| 19:55.20 | benJIman | the freetype autohinter hides the bad rendering by smudging or making them look bolder |
| 19:55.25 | athlonmax | thefonts are bolder |
| 19:55.29 | athlonmax | not fine like in windows |
| 19:55.38 | canllaith | Did you use cleartype in windows? |
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| 19:55.42 | benJIman | athlonmax: because you need to enable the bytecode interpreter |
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| 19:55.43 | canllaith | Perhaps you want to turn off antialiasing entirely |
| 19:55.53 | derekS | expose: oh, thats a small dir to grep through :) |
| 19:55.54 | benJIman | turning off AA will look ugly if you don't enable the bytecode interpreter |
| 19:56.12 | benJIman | and even using AA without bytecode interpreter will look very "bold" |
| 19:56.43 | athlonmax | no cleartype |
| 19:56.48 | athlonmax | the original fonts |
| 19:56.51 | athlonmax | as is |
| 19:56.55 | benJIman | athlonmax: you want it without antialiasing? |
| 19:57.08 | canllaith | Then I suspect you want to recompile freetype and then turn off antialiasing |
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| 19:57.12 | athlonmax | I turn iot off ,it is not the problem |
| 19:57.30 | benJIman | athlonmax: http://bw.uwcs.co.uk/screenshots/mountopts.png < how the fonts look without AA |
| 19:57.32 | athlonmax | same fonts are still bigger in linux than in windows |
| 19:57.43 | benJIman | athlonmax: what distro are you using? |
| 19:57.51 | expose | derekS: grep "foo" -R /etc/ |
| 19:57.59 | expose | wont take long, i bet. |
| 19:58.14 | athlonmax | suse |
| 19:58.16 | expose | otherwise try man for config file notices |
| 19:58.24 | benJIman | athlonmax: yast -> /etc/sysconfig editor, search for font |
| 19:58.34 | benJIman | there are settings there for enabling bytecode interpreter for specified font sizes |
| 19:58.38 | athlonmax | I have even tried mandriva,gentto for the same problem,but you know,kde is kde |
| 19:58.55 | benJIman | it's not kde it's freetype, and you can easily enable the bytecode interpreter in suse |
| 19:59.06 | derekS | expose: what should "foo" be |
| 19:59.11 | athlonmax | so what can I do concretely |
| 19:59.20 | benJIman | athlonmax: http://en.opensuse.org/Optimal_Use_of_MS_TrueType_Core_Fonts_for_a_KDE_Desktop_on_SuSE#SuSE_10.1 |
| 19:59.21 | derekS | udp6? |
| 19:59.40 | benJIman | http://en.opensuse.org/Optimal_Use_of_MS_TrueType_Core_Fonts_for_a_KDE_Desktop_on_SuSE#SuSE_10.0.2F10.1 as well |
| 19:59.47 | benJIman | athlonmax: just read that whole page |
| 20:00.24 | athlonmax | oooow,it works there |
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| 20:02.14 | athlonmax | please can I have the same thing for mandriva ? |
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| 20:04.34 | XVampireX | What do you people think of Konqueror as a web browser? Is it better than Firefox/Opera, for you? |
| 20:04.41 | tech9iner | benJIman can we make a factoid out of the msfont links please if deemed appropriate.. |
| 20:04.58 | expose | derekS: man grep |
| 20:05.25 | tech9iner | not me XVampireX .. but some here do profess its loyal use. just load n play with them all for a month. then choose perhaps.. |
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| 20:05.45 | XVampireX | I'm alternating between swiftfox and konqueror |
| 20:05.59 | canllaith | what is swiftfox? |
| 20:05.59 | XVampireX | konqueror is really good if you want a quick glance at something, since it loads pretty quickly |
| 20:06.20 | XVampireX | but if you want something loaded with extensions and stuff just use swiftfox/firefox |
| 20:06.22 | XVampireX | A faster firefox :) |
| 20:06.40 | tech9iner | lol |
| 20:06.53 | XVampireX | I hear KHTML is faster than the thing mozilla uses |
| 20:07.16 | canllaith | uses less memory too |
| 20:07.18 | Pinaraf | XVampireX: there's no true benchmark |
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| 20:07.32 | derekS | expose: yeah, i know what grep does, just not sure waht i am looking for |
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| 20:07.55 | XVampireX | well, konqueror crashes on me randomly, so not very efficient :P |
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| 20:08.14 | canllaith | odd, it's very stable here - but then it hasn't always been |
| 20:08.18 | XVampireX | But it's good for a quick fix |
| 20:08.36 | XVampireX | Well it's fairly stable here too |
| 20:09.11 | canllaith | I use it for everything but work. A couple of work sites that don't render terribly well in Konqueror.. mostly because they're not standards compliant, not anything to do with konqueror itself. |
| 20:09.13 | XVampireX | Fairly is the keyword :D |
| 20:09.16 | canllaith | itself* |
| 20:09.16 | athlonmax | do you know a way to display videon on desktop |
| 20:09.20 | canllaith | they also don't work terribly well in opera |
| 20:09.20 | athlonmax | kde desktop |
| 20:09.30 | athlonmax | or is it impossible ? |
| 20:09.46 | expose | derekS: oh, i see. i am not either, but i would search for port, udp, etc or things in connection with what you plan to do |
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| 20:10.03 | derekS | LOL |
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| 20:10.50 | derekS | expose: yeah, i did that |
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| 20:11.14 | canllaith | derekS: am I right in assuming it's using ipv6 ? |
| 20:11.19 | athlonmax | what is the commmand to log off ? |
| 20:11.22 | derekS | canllaith: its trying to |
| 20:11.25 | derekS | i want it on v4 |
| 20:11.26 | athlonmax | like reboot,shutdown |
| 20:11.32 | canllaith | could try unloading the ipv6 modules .... |
| 20:11.48 | derekS | canllaith: really? |
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| 20:12.08 | expose | derekS: with no success hm? well - no idea, ask #xorg or #your-distro maybe |
| 20:12.17 | derekS | canllaith: i can't cuz its in use |
| 20:12.23 | derekS | expose: they don't have an answer for my distro |
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| 20:13.09 | canllaith | could add it to modules blacklist and rebooting I guess derekS |
| 20:13.29 | athlonmax | what is the commmand to log off ? |
| 20:13.34 | derekS | canllaith: hmm, thats like a hack, i want it to *really* work |
| 20:13.37 | athlonmax | like reboot,shutdown |
| 20:13.44 | canllaith | derekS: do you want to use ipv6? |
| 20:13.54 | canllaith | athlonmax: 'reboot' and 'halt' |
| 20:13.56 | derekS | canllaith: well, i planned to set it up a little later |
| 20:14.01 | athlonmax | halt |
| 20:14.09 | athlonmax | to log off a current user? |
| 20:14.21 | athlonmax | but not stop the computer |
| 20:14.31 | athlonmax | just like "logoff" in windows |
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| 20:16.15 | logixoul | Renze: you use debian, right? |
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| 20:16.40 | athlonmax | brb |
| 20:17.15 | expose | derekS: ubuntu forums etc |
| 20:17.32 | derekS | expose: the comlete removal of kdm and kdebase-bin? |
| 20:17.35 | derekS | i tried that |
| 20:18.04 | expose | I dont know. Cause of such problems i do never use debian or derivates. |
| 20:18.36 | expose | They all suffer the same problem: you dont know what is where, and too many things arent like they were meant to be etc. |
| 20:18.43 | expose | but this is my very own opinion |
| 20:18.49 | derekS | lol |
| 20:19.15 | derekS | i have used debian and ubuntu for a while now (around 2000 or 2001) and i am normally pretty happy |
| 20:20.04 | expose | well - i used it for somewhat over 9 month as a primary distri and i didnt like it in the end anymore. |
| 20:20.16 | derekS | :) |
| 20:20.22 | expose | But distributions are a matter of taste or even religion. |
| 20:20.29 | derekS | yeah |
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| 20:20.38 | expose | just as c/++ gtk/qt, c(++) or java and so on |
| 20:20.52 | shastry | good night! |
| 20:21.21 | expose | And more over, the most strinking point is, i dont like the debian logo, and i dont like the gtk default icons, so i use gentoo+kde |
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| 20:21.26 | expose | :-) |
| 20:21.31 | expose | </kidding> |
| 20:21.38 | expose | all in all i'm sorry, i cant help |
| 20:21.50 | derekS | hah |
| 20:22.38 | derekS | expose: http://applied-informatics.de/index.php?ID=7 |
| 20:22.44 | derekS | but that would mean rebooting my comp |
| 20:23.36 | WhHotaru | athlonmax: if you wnat to end X just type: /etc/init.d/xdm stop (or kdm or gdm) |
| 20:24.12 | WhHotaru | (This was for Debian) |
| 20:24.45 | expose | derekS: kexec, reload all modules - could also work |
| 20:25.10 | derekS | kexec? |
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| 20:28.24 | derekS | expose: i just downloaded the tool |
| 20:28.57 | derekS | not really sure i understand how to use it |
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| 20:29.12 | derekS | should i just reboot? |
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| 20:29.36 | expose | follow that guide |
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| 20:30.06 | derekS | expose: i am just rebooting :) |
| 20:30.08 | derekS | seems safer |
| 20:31.08 | expose | Do so |
| 20:31.33 | derekS | brb |
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| 20:47.05 | athlonmax | hi agian |
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| 20:47.27 | athlonmax | I would like to know how to disable viewing file extensions on desktop |
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| 20:47.59 | PhilRod | don't think you can do it |
| 20:48.04 | analfabeta | how i put a program to inicialize in kde startup ? |
| 20:48.08 | PhilRod | ~autostat |
| 20:48.12 | PhilRod | ~autostart |
| 20:48.15 | apt | To start a program or set an environment variable at KDE login, see: http://docs.kde.org/development/en/kdebase/faq/configure.html#id2560273 |
| 20:48.25 | athlonmax | I would like to know how to disable viewing file extensions on desktop |
| 20:48.38 | athlonmax | for example:"myfile.pdf" |
| 20:48.52 | athlonmax | I just want "myfile" with the pdf icon |
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| 20:49.07 | PhilRod | athlonmax: I don't think it's possible. But KDE identifies files by mimetype, so you can leave off the extension and it'll still be recognised |
| 20:50.10 | athlonmax | yes |
| 20:50.23 | athlonmax | but I want a once-for-all solution |
| 20:50.36 | athlonmax | I dont want to do it by hand everytime |
| 20:52.24 | PhilRod | AFAIK there's no such setting |
| 20:52.53 | athlonmax | so is there a way to write a shell script that can remove extensions from files |
| 20:54.31 | PhilRod | of course |
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| 20:54.42 | athlonmax | how |
| 20:54.48 | expose | man bash :-) |
| 20:55.07 | expose | athlonmax: #bash has a list of good howtos and and tutorials in their topic. |
| 20:55.12 | PhilRod | for i in *; do mv $i $(echo $i | sed -e 's,\.[^.]*$,,'); done |
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| 20:55.36 | PhilRod | but I wouldn't run an untested shell script from a random person on IRC :-) |
| 20:55.45 | athlonmax | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:55.56 | expose | PhilRod: well, i dont think he learns anything by just copy and pasting that. so in two weeks he might be here asking how to rename alls bla in some files |
| 20:55.58 | expose | :-) |
| 20:56.00 | ixs | PhilRod: well, just consider it testing then, when you run it the first time. |
| 20:56.06 | athlonmax | it would be great if an optioon culd do taht |
| 20:56.16 | athlonmax | it would be great if an optioon could do that for the user |
| 20:56.29 | PhilRod | ~servicemenus |
| 20:56.31 | apt | well, servicemenus is http://developer.kde.org/documentation/tutorials/dot/servicemenus.html |
| 20:56.42 | PhilRod | you could do it with servicemenus :-) |
| 20:56.44 | athlonmax | an optyion like "disable viewing file extensions for more user experience and short filenames :)" |
| 20:57.26 | PhilRod | ixs: I *am* the random person on IRC :-) |
| 20:57.37 | athlonmax | I have problems installing the nvidia driver |
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| 20:57.50 | athlonmax | I installed it with the kernel sources |
| 20:57.52 | PhilRod | athlonmax: feel free to request it on bugs.kde.org, although I'm not convinced of the utility |
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| 20:58.00 | PhilRod | athlonmax: ask in #yourdistro about drivers |
| 20:58.03 | athlonmax | but what sucks is that glx wont work anymore :) ,why ? |
| 20:58.13 | PhilRod | ...and about glx |
| 20:58.14 | ixs | PhilRod: uups. sorry. ;D |
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| 20:59.19 | ixs | I meant expose of course. |
| 20:59.20 | athlonmax | so my geforce 7600 gs wont work in linux :( |
| 20:59.20 | athlonmax | I bought it a month ago ,buy nothing to do |
| 20:59.49 | expose | ixs: interesting, as i never talked about testing anything. |
| 21:00.01 | expose | +r or +s dunno, but its wrong this way |
| 21:00.07 | expose | iirc |
| 21:01.38 | XVampireX | [23:58] <athlonmax> so my geforce 7600 gs wont work in linux :( |
| 21:01.47 | ixs | expose: well. forget it. /me is confused today... |
| 21:01.51 | XVampireX | And why's that? |
| 21:02.06 | XVampireX | what distro? |
| 21:02.15 | ixs | I actually meant PhilRod, his answer jsut confused me. |
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| 21:02.50 | expose | hehe |
| 21:03.07 | expose | athlonmax: i am using one just right now |
| 21:03.13 | expose | athlonmax: and it works _great_! |
| 21:05.14 | expose | hrhr |
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| 21:12.04 | expose | Where does KDE store information containing the geometry a window had before the user closed it? (need to fix sth, firefox wont be maximized anymore) |
| 21:12.28 | mariux | what happends when you click maximize? |
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| 21:14.45 | RIsa | can anyone tell me if KOffice strictly requires KDE? |
| 21:14.46 | PhilRod | expose: ~/.kde/share/config/session/ I think |
| 21:14.59 | PhilRod | RIsa: it requires kdelibs which is part of kde |
| 21:15.06 | RIsa | ;/ |
| 21:15.19 | expose | thx |
| 21:16.21 | lgsobalvarro | RIsa: give me a sec |
| 21:16.39 | PhilRod | but you don't need to be running KDE to use it, nor do you need to install kdebase, which is the kde desktop stuff |
| 21:16.45 | RIsa | I'd like to use it on Ion |
| 21:17.22 | expose | i'll likely use koffice more often as oo.o wont compile on amd64 :-( |
| 21:19.09 | expose | PhilRod: btw it isnt in there |
| 21:19.44 | expose | Well - doesnt matter. 'll get new music on my mp3-portable and go to sleep |
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| 21:21.57 | Sangeli | hello |
| 21:22.05 | mariux | hi |
| 21:22.27 | Sangeli | I was just showing a friend what a IRC channel is |
| 21:22.31 | Sangeli | thanks for replying |
| 21:22.36 | RIsa | lol |
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| 21:23.57 | mariux | welcome to teh Intarnet |
| 21:24.23 | Sangeli | :-) |
| 21:25.06 | mariux | so back to our important discussion, i really do feel that Garfield was funnier in the 83' cartoon series |
| 21:26.22 | Bonkie | garfield is _still_ funny |
| 21:27.32 | mariux | no its not :) |
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| 21:45.38 | RIsa | cd #irssi |
| 21:45.40 | RIsa | lol |
| 21:45.44 | RIsa | wrong command |
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| 21:58.38 | Fish-Face | Hey, I've been trying to find info on using Python to write kicker applets. The latest info I could find (February) states that you need to build a C++ .so and .la in order to accomplish this. Is this strill true? |
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| 22:00.39 | Darius[TEA] | Fish-Face: write a small stub? |
| 22:00.51 | Darius[TEA] | or find python to open a .so |
| 22:01.12 | Darius[TEA] | ah hmm definitely need a wrapper I think |
| 22:01.26 | Fish-Face | Hmm |
| 22:01.29 | Fish-Face | Complicated :/ |
| 22:02.32 | Sho_ | Konversation 1.0 is out, btw |
| 22:02.41 | Renze | Fish-Face: file a wish on bugs.kde.org so it will be easier in KDE4 :) |
| 22:02.46 | Fish-Face | :P |
| 22:02.53 | Renze | Sho_: coolness |
| 22:03.22 | Fish-Face | In the meantime, assuming I don't take the lazy approach... Are there any HelloWorld-type examples for current pythonic kicker applets? |
| 22:03.28 | Renze | Sho_: does it make pizza yet? :D |
| 22:03.42 | Sho_ | Renze: No, but the changelog is a match for a major KDE release in length ;) |
| 22:03.49 | Renze | haha :D |
| 22:04.00 | Sho_ | enjoy =) |
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| 22:05.05 | lnxnt_ | does anyone know how what Intel's version numbers come from? 4004 4040 8008 8080 8056 |
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| 22:06.54 | SimAtWork | lnxnt_: i beleive it started with the number of transistors on the chip |
| 22:07.10 | Renze | lnxnt_: the ones with 4's in them were all 4-bit, 8's were 8-bit... |
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| 22:07.46 | SimAtWork | or maybe not |
| 22:07.49 | SimAtWork | reading on wikipedia now |
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| 23:00.14 | verblendet | hi, anyone here? |
| 23:00.24 | Renze | nobody here but us chickens |
| 23:00.36 | verblendet | so, i want start knotes, but it says it cant find a resource and i have to configure kmail first? wtf? |
| 23:00.44 | Renze | uh? |
| 23:00.51 | verblendet | yes! |
| 23:01.07 | verblendet | knotes --> error, cant find resource, configure kmail first |
| 23:01.34 | verblendet | so, do i need a running gamin server? |
| 23:01.34 | Renze | that's a new one on me |
| 23:01.44 | verblendet | i killed gamin from my system because its so bad |
| 23:02.00 | Renze | gamin is better than fam, at least |
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| 23:02.24 | Renze | without one of those, kde won't know about changes to the filesystem |
| 23:02.27 | verblendet | ut breaks my nfs, and it eats all memory, the only reason to reboot my system here is/was gamin |
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| 23:02.41 | verblendet | Renze, it shouldnt analyse my system at all |
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| 23:02.47 | verblendet | i dont like that indexing |
| 23:02.58 | Renze | you don't want konqueror windows to update when a file changes? |
| 23:03.03 | verblendet | and it lacks performance, but thats not the problem |
| 23:03.11 | verblendet | Renze, no! |
| 23:03.13 | Renze | no, it doesn't index anything, it's the interface to the inotify feature of the kernel |
| 23:03.15 | verblendet | i dont use it |
| 23:03.30 | Renze | weird |
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| 23:03.41 | wizard123 | boo :P |
| 23:03.41 | verblendet | Renze, but i had problems, and after i killed that bufggy stuff its all fine here |
| 23:04.01 | verblendet | it kills nfs, locked so many files, and eats 1gb of ram! |
| 23:04.04 | Renze | verblendet: ok, if you like manually refreshing windows to make sure your file saved :D |
| 23:04.14 | kucrut | Renze: ... |
| 23:04.18 | Renze | kucrut: ... |
| 23:04.20 | verblendet | Renze, thats not the problem, i use console |
| 23:04.26 | Renze | verblendet: ok then |
| 23:04.46 | verblendet | only thing i have X for is blender3d and email |
| 23:04.53 | verblendet | and knotes would be fine to |
| 23:05.04 | verblendet | but i dont see why i have to configure kmail for that |
| 23:05.24 | Renze | because knotes can mail notes to people? |
| 23:06.16 | verblendet | so, it can only mail via kmail, and i dont use kmail here |
| 23:06.40 | Renze | it's a KDE app... and KDE apps are tightly integrated with other KDE apps |
| 23:06.40 | verblendet | i dont want email functionality, only notes on the screen |
| 23:06.52 | verblendet | so, i will search for a more useful app, thx |
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| 23:07.11 | Ash-Fox | Incredible... I thought GTK applications were slow with GTK-Engine-QT, so I remove it and try using some 'native' GTK themes, GTK programs are even slower under KDE now |
| 23:07.13 | Roey | hello all |
| 23:07.14 | Roey | Ash-Fox: hi |
| 23:07.21 | verblendet | if its not possible to run standalone, and forces me to use kmail, theres no need for iut! |
| 23:07.28 | Renze | Ash-Fox: face it... gtk sucks :D |
| 23:07.33 | Roey | I've seemingly lost antialiasing for GTK apps... this is SO UGLY< MY GOD... |
| 23:07.38 | Roey | Renze: yeah |
| 23:07.57 | verblendet | so, i remember a time when those nice little apps dont need a overloaded system :( |
| 23:07.59 | Ash-Fox | Renze, I know, but I've spent over half the day trying to compile firefox as a QT application, and I give up. |
| 23:08.01 | verblendet | pah! |
| 23:08.14 | Renze | verblendet: don't like it? find something else |
| 23:08.29 | verblendet | i like it, but i dont want to be forced to only use kde apps |
| 23:08.38 | verblendet | and btw, my kmail has a testaccount configured |
| 23:08.38 | icwiener | verblendet: Tried compiling it yourself? Maybe there is a configure option to disable kmail dependency. |
| 23:08.43 | Renze | verblendet: nothing is forcing you to use only KDE apps |
| 23:08.53 | Ash-Fox | verblendet, if you use kcontrol, you can tell it to use another mail application. |
| 23:08.57 | verblendet | Renze, knotes forces me to use kmail? isnt it? |
| 23:09.09 | verblendet | Ash-Fox, i wil try |
| 23:09.10 | Renze | verblendet: no, knotes uses the same resource as kmail |
| 23:09.16 | Renze | yeesh |
| 23:09.28 | Renze | you can set resources in kcontrol |
| 23:09.59 | Ash-Fox | The only reason why I don't use konqueror instead of firefox: Google browser sync. |
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| 23:10.32 | verblendet | any hints where that setting is hidden? |
| 23:10.38 | Renze | Ash-Fox: write a google browser sync extension for konqueror :D |
| 23:11.08 | Ash-Fox | Renze, I can use a scripting language, right? |
| 23:11.13 | Renze | verblendet: hidden? control centre -> kde components -> kde resources (you could have used the quick search at the top) |
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| 23:11.22 | Renze | Ash-Fox: no idea :) |
| 23:11.38 | Ash-Fox | Last time I checked, Konqueror didn't have extentions :P |
| 23:11.45 | Renze | verblendet: add a Notes resource |
| 23:12.00 | Renze | Ash-Fox: Settings -> Configure Extensions |
| 23:12.15 | Renze | do people not explore applications any more? :D |
| 23:12.25 | Ash-Fox | Renze, nope, don't have it here |
| 23:12.37 | Renze | Ash-Fox: did your distro remove it? I have it here in Google |
| 23:12.39 | hydrogen | opera++ |
| 23:12.41 | Renze | argh |
| 23:12.43 | Renze | Gentoo* |
| 23:12.59 | Ash-Fox | Renze, nah, I think it's just because I'm on a old system I haven't updated in a few years |
| 23:13.12 | Renze | Ash-Fox: debian stable? :D |
| 23:13.30 | Ash-Fox | Renze, well, it's debian woody :P |
| 23:13.39 | verblendet | ok, i added a notes resource using file, not read only, same problem as before |
| 23:13.42 | Renze | #$%& debian |
| 23:13.46 | verblendet | it wants kmail |
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| 23:13.56 | Ash-Fox | I see it on kubuntu though |
| 23:13.58 | Renze | verblendet: weird |
| 23:14.04 | Renze | verblendet: distro breakage? |
| 23:14.04 | verblendet | indeed! |
| 23:14.17 | verblendet | fedora 3, works out of the box |
| 23:14.20 | Renze | ew |
| 23:14.27 | Ash-Fox | eww |
| 23:14.27 | Renze | the distro I hate the most |
| 23:14.35 | Ash-Fox | It's not even a desktop distro. |
| 23:15.08 | verblendet | i know that gentoo is much better, but i dont have the time to make a new installation every day :) |
| 23:15.15 | Ash-Fox | Does pppd still not work without having to download a vanilla kernel? |
| 23:15.21 | verblendet | its fine for my needs, i only use blender and console |
| 23:15.30 | Renze | verblendet: new installation every day? what crack are you smoking, man? |
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| 23:16.13 | verblendet | Renze, when i installed fc3 it was new, today its not supported, after 9 months, haha |
| 23:16.41 | verblendet | ^ |
| 23:16.44 | Ash-Fox | Ubuntu/Kubuntu/Xubuntu have five year long term support editions. |
| 23:17.04 | verblendet | no *ubuntu, last choice! |
| 23:17.09 | hydrogen | fedora doesn't work out of the box... |
| 23:17.12 | Ash-Fox | And if you require hardware specific optimisations, use apt-build. |
| 23:17.17 | hydrogen | fedora just plain doesn't work |
| 23:17.20 | verblendet | but dont let discuss about distros :) |
| 23:17.20 | Renze | fedora has serious breakage, in every version |
| 23:17.21 | hydrogen | thats my comment of the year |
| 23:17.44 | verblendet | i would prefer any other distrop except suse or *buntu |
| 23:17.49 | Ash-Fox | hydrogen, well, fedora isn't a desktop distro anyway :P |
| 23:18.02 | hydrogen | nope, it's a playground |
| 23:18.06 | hydrogen | okay i need to go |
| 23:18.31 | verblendet | ah uh yeah! wooot wooot |
| 23:18.47 | verblendet | after deleting all imap resources, and only have a file notes resource, knotes starts up, phew |
| 23:19.00 | verblendet | thats what i want.. thx folks :) |
| 23:19.07 | Renze | now that information would have been useful, dude |
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| 23:19.22 | Renze | *sigh* |
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| 23:37.20 | derekS | so i think i finally worked out my xdmcp udp6 issue (it listens on udp4 now) but not really sure why it isn't working.... i just get a blank screen (but it connects) |
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| 23:48.01 | brohism | I'm trying to use KDE Bluetooth Framework, and I'm having problems configuring it |
| 23:48.18 | brohism | When I open kbluetoothd, I get the following message: http://ba-zing.net/kdebluetooth.png |
| 23:48.31 | brohism | and then kbluetoothd locks up and I have to kill the process |
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