| 00:00.12 | gmak | come on i tried this kio-ftps thing, still no go |
| 00:00.14 | gmak | sux |
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| 00:04.29 | tech9iner | all that 'fish' talk gotcha hungry Renze ;] |
| 00:04.41 | Renze | I have tuna |
| 00:04.53 | gmak | hmm plainly, ftps is impossible to use in konqueror lol |
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| 00:10.27 | unity | i do not have the audiocd protocol, what package provides that io slave? |
| 00:10.34 | unity | ~audiocd |
| 00:11.06 | hydrogen | kdemultimedia-ioslaves or something |
| 00:11.11 | Liquid_Fire | unity: kdemultimedia-kioslaves probably |
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| 00:12.48 | gmak | connected with gftp! |
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| 00:13.52 | unity | hydrogen, Liquid_Fire: thanks |
| 00:14.10 | Lars_G | O.O |
| 00:14.25 | Lars_G | people called hydrogen and Liquid_Fire should NOT be in the same channel |
| 00:14.30 | tech9iner | Richlv where art thou thou though th th tt |
| 00:14.33 | tech9iner | lol |
| 00:14.48 | tech9iner | hehe |
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| 00:15.11 | unity | Lars_G: nice |
| 00:15.15 | Liquid_Fire | lol |
| 00:15.19 | tech9iner | Big Brown Mountains by Squat N. Leavitt |
| 00:15.46 | unity | hydrogen reacts explosively with air, not with fire, right? |
| 00:15.58 | hydrogen | i react explosivly with idiocy :P |
| 00:16.20 | Lars_G | unity: not just with air, with air and a catalyst or oxidant afaik |
| 00:18.22 | tech9iner | somebody need me? |
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| 00:19.47 | minerale | hi, could someone help me find a mirror of: http://www.kde.org/screenshots/kde1shoots.php from 1996 ? |
| 00:19.57 | hydrogen | webarchive.org |
| 00:19.59 | hydrogen | i think |
| 00:19.59 | rr72 | google? |
| 00:20.00 | hydrogen | try it |
| 00:20.05 | minerale | not on the archive |
| 00:20.17 | rr72 | there was a site that mirros stuff but i forgot it |
| 00:20.30 | Liquid_Fire | earliest in archive.org is '98 |
| 00:20.33 | minerale | the 10 year anniversary was not too long ago so it must be somewhere |
| 00:21.04 | minerale | btw, the link came from: http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-1.0.php |
| 00:21.31 | minerale | so thats's 1998* not 1996 |
| 00:21.59 | Liquid_Fire | there's some screenshots from '98 here http://web.archive.org/web/19981205224103/www.kde.org/kscreenshots.html |
| 00:22.51 | Liquid_Fire | man, it was uglier than windows 3.1 :) |
| 00:23.27 | minerale | well, consider motif and CDE |
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| 00:23.37 | minerale | that was worse |
| 00:24.35 | Liquid_Fire | good point :) |
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| 00:27.39 | minerale | liquid_fire: believe it or not, they bought a new computer at school (I think they spent 30K) on it, runs a cluster of thin clients and by default it uses Solaris CDT (motif) ... it's unreal |
| 00:28.15 | minerale | thankfully the thin clients run linux (gnome) and windows as well |
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| 00:39.30 | SevenIsPrime | Hi all |
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| 00:40.00 | stoned | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:40.10 | stoned | I don't think thats a legal kde file association |
| 00:40.20 | SevenIsPrime | look here: |
| 00:40.30 | SevenIsPrime | http://docs.kde.org/stable/en/kdebase/faq/filemanager.html#id2555812 |
| 00:40.51 | SevenIsPrime | To repost my question in this channel: |
| 00:41.08 | SevenIsPrime | I am using KDE 3.5.4. When I use konqueror as file manager and click on a directory, I get "There appears to be a configuration error. You have associated Konqueror with inode/directory, but it cannot handle this file type." |
| 00:41.26 | SevenIsPrime | According to KDE FAQ, I should make sure, "embedded viewer" is set in the file associations settings. |
| 00:41.40 | SevenIsPrime | I have done that. I also double checked that "left click action" is set to "embedded viewer". |
| 00:41.52 | stoned | yeah, that sounds off |
| 00:42.01 | stoned | like I said, its illegal afaik |
| 00:42.02 | SevenIsPrime | Anything more I can do short of reinstalling KDE? |
| 00:42.11 | stoned | mine is like so |
| 00:42.18 | stoned | show file in seperate viewer |
| 00:42.24 | stoned | in the embedding tab |
| 00:42.35 | SevenIsPrime | hang on ... let me try it :) |
| 00:42.37 | stoned | and what opens inode/directory is konqueror in ascociations tab |
| 00:42.54 | stoned | application pref. order, make sure konq. is at top |
| 00:43.40 | SevenIsPrime | stoned: What was that last one? |
| 00:43.45 | stoned | g |
| 00:43.47 | SevenIsPrime | Where do I find application pref.? |
| 00:43.49 | stoned | General tab |
| 00:43.54 | stoned | next to embedding tab |
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| 00:44.46 | SevenIsPrime | stoned: Oh, ok. There is no other application but Konqueror in there :) |
| 00:45.15 | SevenIsPrime | either way: I still get that error. Damn. |
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| 00:45.31 | SevenIsPrime | That way, konqueror is totally useless. |
| 00:46.06 | stoned | did you set the preferences order? |
| 00:46.08 | SevenIsPrime | It all started going wrong, when I installed gnome by accident and it kept opening subfolders in that ugly nautilus gnome browser. |
| 00:46.10 | stoned | in embedding tab |
| 00:46.22 | stoned | so remove nautilus/gnome |
| 00:46.25 | stoned | it should fix it self |
| 00:46.28 | SevenIsPrime | I uninstalled all gnome stuff, including nautilus. Now I get that error. |
| 00:46.29 | stoned | what distro are you using? |
| 00:46.36 | SevenIsPrime | debian sid/unstable |
| 00:46.38 | stoned | oh |
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| 00:46.40 | stoned | hold on |
| 00:48.45 | SevenIsPrime | *holds on* |
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| 00:49.53 | tech9iner | your nick sux stoned when all trees here are beyond reach ;].. |
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| 00:52.09 | stoned | lol |
| 00:52.13 | stoned | I'm still looking |
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| 00:53.02 | tech9iner | 2 wks nojoy here stoned ... |
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| 00:53.24 | tech9iner | no tree not a happy ole hippy maketh |
| 00:53.53 | SevenIsPrime | I am just about to delete my ~/.kde, but the subject line says not to :) |
| 00:53.54 | tech9iner | hahahaha Renze |
| 00:54.13 | tech9iner | that'll work. got a crockpot o beans on as i type Renze lol |
| 00:54.14 | Renze | SevenIsPrime: move .kde to another name, but don't delete it |
| 00:54.43 | Renze | a move is undoable, a delete is often not |
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| 00:55.16 | SevenIsPrime | Renze: I can do that, yes. But I need a working file manager. That is, a file manager where you can actually open directories with. |
| 00:55.31 | stoned | I can't find it |
| 00:56.03 | SevenIsPrime | I am just wondering, why the FAQ hints do not have any positive effect on my problem. |
| 00:56.13 | stoned | mv ~/.kde ~/.kde_backup |
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| 00:56.19 | Renze | SevenIsPrime: probably because so few people have had your problem |
| 00:56.31 | stoned | that should teach you a lesson |
| 00:56.35 | stoned | DON'T FUCK WITH GNOME |
| 00:56.36 | SevenIsPrime | Renze: Well, it has made it into the FAQ ... |
| 00:56.50 | stoned | NP: Andy C. -|- Nightlife, Vol. 3 -|- " The Truth " -|- (Drum & Bass) -|- (rating: 0/0) |
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| 00:57.03 | Renze | gnome is teh eeeevil... it breaks stuff |
| 00:57.04 | SevenIsPrime | stoned: I never inteded to fuck with it. Gnome best stays uninstalled. |
| 00:57.11 | stoned | lol |
| 00:57.15 | stoned | actually |
| 00:57.34 | hub | what is wrong with gnome? |
| 00:57.47 | SevenIsPrime | hub: Well, it took over my konqueror ... |
| 00:57.51 | stoned | try moving your .kde/share/applnk somewhere |
| 00:57.57 | stoned | and then try again |
| 00:58.08 | SevenIsPrime | hub: Whenever I clicked on a folder, konqueror was firing up nautilus to view the contents. |
| 00:58.09 | stoned | if that doesn't work, then try moving the entire .kde over to .kde backup |
| 00:58.20 | hub | SevenIsPrime: konq did the same hte other way |
| 00:58.27 | hub | SevenIsPrime: sorry about that |
| 00:58.34 | SevenIsPrime | hub: The interesting question is: how do I reverse it :) |
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| 00:59.27 | SevenIsPrime | stoned: the applnk directory is totally empty. Nothing in there. Bobkes. Nil. Zippo. |
| 00:59.39 | SevenIsPrime | stoned: Do I still need to move it? |
| 00:59.40 | hub | SevenIsPrime: no idea. sorry |
| 01:00.06 | acdc | I want to create configuration for my keyboard model, however I don't understand the codes symbols/inet file uses |
| 01:00.08 | acdc | is there a manual/tutorial on that somewhere? |
| 01:00.14 | SevenIsPrime | hub: I think gnome & KDE should make sure their windowmanagers don't get in one anothers way if both are installed on a system. |
| 01:00.32 | SevenIsPrime | I am about to switch to IceWM or somesuch :) |
| 01:00.58 | hub | SevenIsPrime: it is not a window manager issue |
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| 01:01.17 | SevenIsPrime | hub: so what is it then? |
| 01:01.18 | hub | SevenIsPrime: I have both installed |
| 01:01.28 | hub | SevenIsPrime: the default applications |
| 01:01.29 | hub | or something |
| 01:01.41 | hub | SevenIsPrime: and the distro |
| 01:01.49 | SevenIsPrime | hub: ok |
| 01:02.00 | hub | window management has strictly nothing to do |
| 01:02.22 | SevenIsPrime | maybe I should have purged rather than just removed gnome |
| 01:02.33 | hub | SevenIsPrime: apt-get remove nautilus |
| 01:02.35 | hub | :-) |
| 01:02.40 | SevenIsPrime | hub: no PURGE :) |
| 01:02.41 | hub | if you don't use it :-) |
| 01:02.46 | hub | --purge |
| 01:02.52 | hub | SevenIsPrime: apt-get remove --purge nautilus |
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| 01:03.57 | SevenIsPrime | hub: dpkg -P nautilus ... I am so lazy. |
| 01:04.21 | SevenIsPrime | and it is still not working. |
| 01:04.37 | SevenIsPrime | Oh that **** of a *****! |
| 01:05.14 | SevenIsPrime | Why oh why did I have to install Gnome? One little slip and I have to completely flatten my system in reinstall from scratch? |
| 01:05.40 | hub | try to reinstall dpkg-reconfigure konqueror |
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| 01:07.04 | SevenIsPrime | hub: tried. Failed. |
| 01:07.31 | SevenIsPrime | hub: Oh for crying out loud. What good is a filemanager that cannot handle diretories? |
| 01:07.42 | hub | SevenIsPrime: nautilus is good |
| 01:07.47 | hub | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:08.04 | hub | SevenIsPrime: you prefer one that crash and leak? |
| 01:08.27 | SevenIsPrime | hub: I prefer one that does not cause eye cancer when you look at it. |
| 01:08.56 | hub | what cause eye cancer? |
| 01:08.58 | hub | Windows XP? |
| 01:09.03 | SevenIsPrime | hub: and I prefer one that can acutally show contents of folders in a sane way that does not need 10 square feet of icons. |
| 01:09.14 | SevenIsPrime | hub: Windows XP for sure. And Nautilus :) |
| 01:09.20 | hub | list view |
| 01:09.23 | hub | and it use less space |
| 01:09.34 | hub | but back to your problem |
| 01:09.37 | hub | no idea. sorry |
| 01:09.53 | hub | I suspect a screw up in the "mime type" handling |
| 01:10.19 | SevenIsPrime | hub: I suspected that from the very beginning. But I am out of ideas where I can actually tweak the settings any further. |
| 01:10.34 | hub | sudo update-mime-database |
| 01:10.40 | hub | have you tried that? |
| 01:11.01 | rohanpm | SevenIsPrime: try moving ~/.kde/share/config/profilerc somewhere else |
| 01:11.15 | SevenIsPrime | rohanpm: hang on :) |
| 01:11.25 | rohanpm | SevenIsPrime: that seems to be where the relevant settings are stored |
| 01:11.35 | SevenIsPrime | hub: Usage: update-mime-database [-hv] MIME-DIR |
| 01:11.41 | SevenIsPrime | hub: Where is my MIME-DIR? |
| 01:12.22 | hub | hold on |
| 01:13.35 | SevenIsPrime | let me relog, guys. brb |
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| 01:13.55 | hub | sudo dpkg-reconfigure shared-mime-info |
| 01:13.56 | hub | ah |
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| 01:19.30 | stoned | {GuNNeR}, you there |
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| 01:21.52 | SevenIsPrime | re |
| 01:22.21 | SevenIsPrime | I found the solution for the konqueror problem. |
| 01:22.43 | hub | ok |
| 01:22.45 | hub | what was it? |
| 01:22.54 | hub | sudo dpkg-reconfigure shared-mime-info <- is what I was saying |
| 01:23.12 | SevenIsPrime | I had the "lock to current location" setting enabled.checked |
| 01:23.52 | SevenIsPrime | apparently that is not good if you want to change any settings to the mimetypes etc. |
| 01:24.40 | SevenIsPrime | I created a new user and checked konqueror. It was working and that "lock to current location" was the only difference. |
| 01:24.48 | SevenIsPrime | Well. Problem solved. |
| 01:24.55 | SevenIsPrime | thanks for all the help and encouragement :) |
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| 01:41.18 | duane | anyone know how to turn off whatever makes a horizontal scroll make web browsers go back a bunch of pages? |
| 01:41.28 | duane | on the mouse |
| 01:41.56 | duane | anyone know what im talking about? |
| 01:41.56 | rohanpm | duane: depends on the browser I suppose |
| 01:42.13 | duane | it does it on all the browsers, i didn't know if it was a kde global hotkey thing or what |
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| 01:44.26 | ixs | duane: it's a "feature" of your synaptics touchpad |
| 01:44.44 | duane | how do I turn it off? |
| 01:44.47 | duane | it pisses me off |
| 01:44.49 | duane | heh |
| 01:44.54 | duane | cause i always accidently do it |
| 01:45.40 | ixs | I'm not sure how to do it the easy |
| 01:45.42 | ixs | way |
| 01:45.56 | duane | i see |
| 01:46.11 | ixs | the complicated way is install ksynaptics or what the thing is called, and activate the shared memory configuration for the synaptics touchapr |
| 01:46.11 | ixs | Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Synaptics Mouse" Driver "synaptics" |
| 01:46.15 | ixs | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:46.23 | ixs | set something like that in x.org config |
| 01:46.33 | ixs | then you can disable the function via ksynaptics |
| 01:46.54 | duane | ic |
| 01:46.56 | duane | thx |
| 01:47.41 | ixs | hm |
| 01:47.50 | ixs | man 5 synaptics should give you some info |
| 01:49.30 | TheWoozle | Any idea why the KDE screensaver would refuse to run? Is there some daemon I need to start... |
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| 02:10.31 | hagabaka | why is KMilo needed? couldn't KMix just have the multimedia keyb bindings by default? |
| 02:11.03 | Renze | kmilo has on screen display, kmix doesn't |
| 02:11.24 | hagabaka | is that the only thing? |
| 02:11.47 | Renze | and kmilo does more than volume and mute... it also does lcd backlight, I believe |
| 02:11.51 | hagabaka | then the osd could just get integrated into kmix...or kmilo could be just a normal program instead of a "service" |
| 02:11.57 | hagabaka | i see |
| 02:12.14 | hagabaka | well i'd use it if the OSD looked prettier and was less obstructive |
| 02:12.24 | Renze | what is the difference between a normal program and a service? |
| 02:12.39 | Renze | hagabaka: you have access to the source... change it :D |
| 02:12.53 | stoned | service my cock, and normal program displays the porn |
| 02:12.53 | stoned | ? |
| 02:13.09 | stoned | too much? |
| 02:13.27 | stoned | hmm |
| 02:13.41 | stoned | you know, Wierd Science came out when I was 12 |
| 02:13.53 | stoned | my parents wouldn't let me watch it until I turned 13 |
| 02:14.03 | stoned | I had to wait a whole year, that sucked |
| 02:14.05 | hagabaka | is there a way to free up the global shortcuts? |
| 02:14.07 | Renze | I don't blame them... look what it's done to you :D |
| 02:14.11 | stoned | huh? |
| 02:14.19 | stoned | they didn't smoke weed man |
| 02:14.38 | hagabaka | i think KMilo is still using them after I stopped the service, and I can't use them elsewhere although i could assign them |
| 02:14.38 | stoned | they made a girl from a computer and like boned her and stuff |
| 02:14.55 | stoned | you've never seen Weird Science |
| 02:15.01 | stoned | 80's highschool movie |
| 02:15.02 | Renze | I have |
| 02:15.08 | Renze | didn't think much of it |
| 02:15.11 | stoned | what about the Breakfast Club |
| 02:15.17 | Renze | yes, seen that too |
| 02:15.19 | rohanpm | That's funny, I saw the TV series first and was disappointed when I saw the movie |
| 02:15.23 | Renze | I'm old, remember? |
| 02:15.26 | stoned | yeah |
| 02:15.28 | rohanpm | but they were probably both equally dumb |
| 02:15.30 | hagabaka | are you British? |
| 02:15.36 | Renze | me |
| 02:15.37 | stoned | no, he's just a tool |
| 02:15.43 | hagabaka | i saw you type Control Centre the other day :) |
| 02:15.45 | Renze | no, I'm not british |
| 02:15.55 | stoned | hes from the land of frodo baggins |
| 02:15.58 | Renze | I speak English, however, as opposed to American |
| 02:16.00 | stoned | NZ |
| 02:16.06 | hagabaka | hmm |
| 02:16.18 | stoned | Renze, you're not a hobbit are you? |
| 02:16.30 | stoned | I'd like to bone a little hobbit chic man |
| 02:16.30 | Renze | too tall to be a hobbit, and my feet aren't hairy enough |
| 02:16.42 | stoned | that would be interesting, it would give me a story to tell my buddies later |
| 02:16.56 | stoned | or maybe I could bone a midget |
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| 02:17.12 | stoned | did you know this |
| 02:17.25 | stoned | I did not know this. There is a difference between a midget and a dwarf |
| 02:17.30 | stoned | do you know what it is? |
| 02:17.30 | Renze | yes |
| 02:17.47 | Renze | one has chondroplagia and the other is just small |
| 02:17.49 | hagabaka | there's a differece between every two English words |
| 02:18.07 | stoned | there's a difference between your mom |
| 02:18.15 | stoned | hmm, that didn't sound right |
| 02:18.36 | stoned | so one is just a smaller human, but proportional. and one has a huge head, but a tiny body |
| 02:18.46 | stoned | not proportional |
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| 02:19.11 | stoned | if you call a midget a dwarf, will they get pissed off? |
| 02:19.20 | stoned | is it like calling a black man the 'n' word? |
| 02:19.45 | Renze | er, chondrodysplasia* |
| 02:19.46 | stoned | its exactly like that, from all the years of midget opression |
| 02:19.53 | stoned | poor midgets |
| 02:20.04 | Renze | or Achondroplasia |
| 02:20.07 | stoned | opressed subdued humble freaks of nature |
| 02:20.11 | stoned | and cute as hell |
| 02:20.15 | stoned | except the ugly ones |
| 02:20.29 | stoned | Renze, dude you're too technical for me |
| 02:20.36 | Renze | I'm a geek |
| 02:20.38 | stoned | dumb it down for me man |
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| 02:20.50 | stoned | I'm a music theory nerd |
| 02:20.51 | stoned | so what |
| 02:20.58 | stoned | we all have our areas of expertise |
| 02:21.07 | stoned | doesn't make us geeks or nerds man, and if so, good for us |
| 02:21.21 | stoned | we make billions and then get hot chics to be our trophy wives who sleep with the pool guy |
| 02:21.23 | stoned | or something |
| 02:21.24 | Theory | stoned: what's your thoughts on the music genome project? |
| 02:21.31 | stoned | never heard of it |
| 02:21.59 | Theory | www.pandora.com |
| 02:22.48 | stoned | thats just an song/artist/ db |
| 02:23.03 | stoned | has nothing to do with the theoretical/physical/aesthetic aspect of noise/sound/music |
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| 02:23.35 | AI_coder | Is there any way to fool my webbrowser to send a form to a local socket when it is actually sending it to another address? I can't seem to find it on kdcop. |
| 02:23.42 | AI_coder | Could someone help me out here? |
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| 02:23.46 | AI_coder | I know you can do something like nc -l -p 1025 then call up http://localhost:1025 and look at the message that way. |
| 02:24.04 | AI_coder | In other words, How do I intercept outgoing http messages from my web browser? |
| 02:24.15 | rohanpm | AI_coder: wireshark? |
| 02:24.41 | Renze | ethereal? |
| 02:24.47 | thiago | AI_coder: tethereal |
| 02:25.01 | stoned | E dim 7 b5 |
| 02:25.09 | shiznix | ethereal is now called wireshark |
| 02:25.13 | stoned | la de da |
| 02:25.15 | Renze | it is? |
| 02:25.18 | shiznix | yup |
| 02:25.19 | stoned | I think so |
| 02:25.27 | AI_coder | Ethereal is cool, but I can't find a good way to just copy the http message, it seems to break it up into packets. |
| 02:25.32 | AI_coder | Wireshark eh? |
| 02:25.34 | stoned | I read it earlier when I was browing with stumbleupon.com bookmarks |
| 02:25.46 | thiago | AI_coder: that's because ethereal is a packet dumper |
| 02:26.03 | AI_coder | thiago: Right, hence the question... |
| 02:26.05 | AI_coder | lol |
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| 02:26.43 | AI_coder | Perhaps you could say something else really obvious and feel like you contributed something to the conversation. But only if you really want to. |
| 02:27.09 | thiago | ethereal in graphical mode can show more aggregated info |
| 02:27.19 | thiago | but I never use it, so I don't really know its capabilities |
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| 02:28.07 | shiznix | AI_coder: there is some magic switch voodoo to have tcpdump do that, just can't remember the incantation :| |
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| 02:28.48 | shiznix | Theory: nice, didn't know about pandora.com , kinda like a last.fm alternative |
| 02:29.10 | Theory | yeah, or like a web 2.0 version of gnoosic.com |
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| 02:30.24 | rohanpm | Someone mentioned web 2.0, time for a drink |
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| 02:30.48 | Renze | web 2.0 web 2.0 web 2.0 have three shots on me :D |
| 02:32.28 | Theory | mmm drink |
| 02:33.00 | rohanpm | Yup, love that orange juice |
| 02:33.11 | Theory | it's all about the milk |
| 02:33.13 | Renze | what? no vodka? |
| 02:33.14 | Theory | (with cookies) |
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| 02:35.13 | hagabaka | life 2.0! |
| 02:35.54 | Theory | I don't know what that means, but I fear it involves podcasts and segways |
| 02:36.20 | hagabaka | what are segways? |
| 02:36.47 | Renze | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Segway |
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| 02:37.21 | rohanpm | The segway hype was hilarious |
| 02:37.30 | Renze | segways are a joke |
| 02:37.48 | Renze | "yes, you don't have to walk any more, so you can get even fatter!" |
| 02:38.03 | hagabaka | oh those |
| 02:39.57 | shiznix | the technology is pretty neat though |
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| 02:40.36 | Renze | if only they had found a better implementation when they introduced it |
| 02:40.37 | shiznix | probably a segway to something bigger :p |
| 02:40.40 | shiznix | hawhaw |
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| 02:41.05 | twobitsprite | if my home directory was encrypted, is there a way to have kdm/kde prompt me for a password/keyfile to unlock and loop mount it for me? |
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| 02:43.23 | AI_coder | Probably |
| 02:43.43 | AI_coder | At what point do you want it to do these things? |
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| 02:47.56 | twobitsprite | AI_coder: when I log in... |
| 02:48.29 | Phantom | hi. i'm using kde as an ftp client, but when i try to delete a file on the ftp server (right click->delete, then click okay on the box), it says the file doesn't exist. i know i'm not in read only mode, since i can upload files, and i am able to delete with a different client. any idea? |
| 02:49.00 | twobitsprite | I can't put anything in ~/.kde because it's encrypted... so it would have to have some startup script outside of the home dir... |
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| 02:50.01 | rohanpm | twobitsprite: you probably have to make a new 'session type' in kdm, which simply runs your own script which decrypts your home directory and runs startkde |
| 02:50.28 | Phantom | sry, ment to say konqueror, not kde |
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| 02:52.07 | twobitsprite | rohanpm: ahh... I suppose that would do it |
| 02:52.12 | twobitsprite | I'll try that, thanks |
| 02:52.59 | AI_coder | By the way, apparently follow tcp stream works great in ethereal for looking at http conversations. |
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| 03:06.25 | rushfan | I just upgraded Gentoo, which recompiled KDE, and now I can't delete any files from konqueror. :| |
| 03:06.34 | rushfan | It shows the delete dialog, but the progress bar stays at 0% |
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| 03:49.52 | w1z3r | hi all |
| 03:50.01 | w1z3r | I got Kde 3.5.1 / freebsd 6.1 |
| 03:50.05 | w1z3r | using xorg |
| 03:50.28 | w1z3r | even I dont do anything, after few hours Xorg uses %50-60 cpu |
| 03:50.32 | w1z3r | any idea why ? |
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| 03:53.38 | mobtek | hmm new konversation |
| 03:53.41 | mobtek | juicy |
| 03:53.51 | mobtek | I wish I would hide the server tabs though |
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| 03:58.06 | Mase | mobtek: yeh new konversation is nice |
| 03:58.16 | Mase | just compiled it a moment ago |
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| 04:00.06 | w1z3r | how can I disable shadows and transparency ? |
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| 04:06.28 | Renze | fscking router... grrr |
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| 04:18.35 | islamguidedotcom | how come the kde system guard doesn't remember when i tick the option to not ask me again when i kill a process? |
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| 04:19.29 | islamguidedotcom | w1z3r, control center>desktop>window behaviour>translucency |
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| 04:21.11 | islamguidedotcom | w1z3r, shadows and translucency are pretty useless in terms of functionality and eye-candy.. i don't find them nice |
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| 04:21.55 | islamguidedotcom | w1z3r, u might want to use menu translucency under appearance&themes>style>effects>menu effect>make translucent |
| 04:22.11 | rohanpm | islamguidedotcom: I don't think it's always useless... I think transparent inactive windows can increase productivity if set up correctly |
| 04:22.13 | islamguidedotcom | and change menu translucency type to xrender blend |
| 04:23.03 | rohanpm | I'd use them if they didn't make X crash here |
| 04:23.05 | islamguidedotcom | rohanpm, ya it's a matter of preference but i prefer to see the windows clearly |
| 04:23.48 | islamguidedotcom | rohanpm, glxgears scores drop a lot too.. does it affect in game opengl like enemy territory? |
| 04:24.38 | rohanpm | islamguidedotcom: I don't know... quite possibly, but it probably depends on your drivers |
| 04:25.04 | islamguidedotcom | rohanpm, i don't really notice any unlike compiz |
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| 04:25.47 | islamguidedotcom | rohanpm, have u tried the crystal window decorations |
| 04:26.04 | rohanpm | islamguidedotcom: I think so, didn't stick with them though |
| 04:26.39 | islamguidedotcom | the aero interface i pretty clean |
| 04:27.26 | islamguidedotcom | rohanpm, oh and u can get compiz's mac-like xpose feature by using compose |
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| 04:28.55 | rohanpm | islamguidedotcom: yeah, I've used kompose, it's neat; but unfortunately Composite always makes X crash eventually here |
| 04:29.34 | islamguidedotcom | rohanpm, i presume u're on ati? |
| 04:29.43 | dspr | how do I get konqueror to use double-click to enter dir, single click to select instead of single click to enter dir? |
| 04:30.04 | dspr | i see no opttions under behavior,,,,, |
| 04:30.07 | rohanpm | islamguidedotcom: incorrect. Intel (true open-source drivers) |
| 04:30.17 | islamguidedotcom | oh |
| 04:31.02 | islamguidedotcom | dspr, control center>peripherals>mouse |
| 04:31.19 | dspr | aah.... |
| 04:31.25 | islamguidedotcom | dspr, i admit control center can prove pretty difficult to navigate just takes getting used to |
| 04:31.44 | dspr | eh, it's nothing for a twm-user.... |
| 04:33.14 | dspr | that's the only out-of-the-ordinay setting I can find, too.... |
| 04:33.47 | islamguidedotcom | and the search feature is pretty broken |
| 04:34.07 | islamguidedotcom | doesn't display all the results containing the word in control center |
| 04:37.14 | dspr | i do almost everything with config files anyway.... |
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| 04:48.10 | vinboy | hi |
| 04:48.13 | vinboy | anyone here uses SKIM? |
| 04:48.22 | SwordManX | hey isn't there a way to be able to preview screencaps from a video file in your browser? |
| 04:48.25 | vinboy | the SKIM only show English... how do I input Chinese? |
| 04:50.21 | Renze | SwordManX: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=41180 |
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| 04:53.38 | SwordManX | thanks |
| 04:53.57 | Renze | no problem |
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| 04:55.29 | emergent | good evening everyone =] I'm using kde 3.5.1 under FreeBSD r6.1 and can't seem to make the screensaver activate automatically; it tests just fine, but won't initialize on it's own. why is that? Also, my multiple desktops are reset to the default number when I restart X. I have done plenty of hunting, but haven't found the answer as of yet. anyone have a fix? |
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| 04:56.28 | bloggsie | Anybody know how to get the flash plugin to work in Konqueror? many tia |
| 04:56.44 | Renze | emergent: I remember there being a screensaver bug in 3.5.1 - it has been fixed in later versions |
| 04:57.07 | Renze | bloggsie: install it, and tell konqueror where it is |
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| 04:58.08 | bloggsie | Renze: Ah, yes, but how do you tell Konqui these days? that panel for scaling for plugins is no more. :-( |
| 04:58.15 | emergent | Renze: alright, I'll upgrade and hopefully that cures it. any idea about the resetting of my virutal desktops? |
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| 04:58.34 | emergent | Renze: thank you, btw =] |
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| 04:59.10 | Renze | bloggsie: it is where it has always been... Settings -> Configure Konqueror, Plugins page. Put the path to the plugin in the list of folders, and click Scan for New Plugins |
| 04:59.27 | Renze | emergent: no idea, I'm afraid, re: the virtual desktops... |
| 05:00.30 | Renze | bloggsie: chances are that your distro has split out the netscape plugins stuff and you have to install it separately |
| 05:00.34 | emergent | Renze: no problem you've been more than gracious, have a good one |
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| 05:01.35 | bloggsie | Renze: That's possible, I'm on Gentoo. I'll have a look around. Many thanks |
| 05:01.47 | Renze | I'm on gentoo also |
| 05:01.50 | Renze | I have that panel |
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| 05:25.02 | bloggsie | Renze: Which version of KDE and Konqueror, 'cos I have searched thoroughly & I simply so not have the plugins panel any more on Konqui-3.5.4 and KDE-3.5.4. Very odd and rather sad that KDE has sucumed to political correctness |
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| 05:29.59 | ShockValue | hi folks.. any idea what part of the AudioCD:/ KIO slave is packaged in? |
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| 05:43.01 | Renze | bloggsie: sorry, went to the supermarket... KDE 3.5.4 (and same for Konqueror) |
| 05:43.23 | Renze | bloggsie: they are still in KDE, just not in yours for some bizarre reason. Missing USE flag, maybe? |
| 05:44.16 | bloggsie | Renze: Well I suppose that's possible. What do you think it - the use flag - might be called? |
| 05:44.18 | Renze | ShockValue: kdemultimedia (or kdemultimedia-kioslaves if you're using Gentoo split ebuilds) |
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| 05:44.45 | Renze | bloggsie: try nsplugin |
| 05:45.05 | bloggsie | ok that's an idea! thanks. |
| 05:45.27 | Renze | checking what use flags konq is built with, one moment |
| 05:46.07 | bloggsie | Renze be back in 5 mins |
| 05:46.11 | Renze | hmmm... no nsplugin there, but that doesn't mean much |
| 05:46.33 | ShockValue | Renze: awesome, thank you |
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| 05:47.01 | Renze | ShockValue: no problem... just remember, distro packages are not supported here. kde is only released as source |
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| 05:50.39 | ShockValue | nope, not askin for help :) |
| 05:52.04 | Renze | ShockValue: it's just that several of the developers have formed a quite intense hatred of gentoo because of the questions people ask in here :) |
| 05:52.57 | ShockValue | yeah i understand.. its like me having to support Trillian at work.. friggin hate that |
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| 06:44.59 | youknow365 | that gtk-qt engine is better then i thought |
| 06:45.03 | youknow365 | i see no mistakes |
| 06:45.18 | youknow365 | i did in ealry versions becasue of scoll bars but that appears fixed |
| 06:45.20 | Renze | there are problems with it, but they're minor |
| 06:45.57 | youknow365 | like what ? |
| 06:46.12 | youknow365 | and is it still being actively developed ? |
| 06:46.17 | Renze | sliders in Gimp |
| 06:46.23 | Renze | no idea |
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| 06:51.42 | youknow365 | a new version just came out like last month |
| 06:52.24 | Renze | I stopped using it a while back in favour of using QtCurve instead (matching themes for KDE and Gtk) |
| 06:53.00 | youknow365 | what is QtCurve? |
| 06:53.16 | youknow365 | does it look qt ish ? |
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| 06:53.58 | Renze | http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=40492 |
| 06:55.11 | youknow365 | ahh nice |
| 06:55.18 | youknow365 | does that run on windows as well ? |
| 06:55.27 | Renze | uh? |
| 06:55.32 | Renze | win... dows? |
| 06:55.41 | Renze | I'm not familar with that word |
| 06:55.47 | Renze | familiar* |
| 06:55.51 | youknow365 | lol |
| 06:56.00 | youknow365 | im just making an application with GTK |
| 06:56.04 | Renze | I haven't used windows since 1998 |
| 06:56.11 | youknow365 | i see |
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| 07:00.31 | ShockValue | ok, newb question, how do i have something startup automatically when i log into kde? |
| 07:01.14 | youknow365 | Renze: do you think KDEis far more reosurceful then GNOME ? |
| 07:01.20 | Renze | yes |
| 07:01.31 | youknow365 | i think they are about the same clean versions of them both |
| 07:01.44 | Renze | kde just does more |
| 07:02.04 | youknow365 | well im using a celeron 900 mhz and its running fast |
| 07:02.25 | ShockValue | nm, think i got it ... ~/.kde/Autostart make a link? |
| 07:02.54 | Renze | oh, you're referring to resource use? |
| 07:03.06 | youknow365 | yes |
| 07:03.15 | Renze | ShockValue: .desktop file, link, or script |
| 07:03.31 | Renze | youknow365: I think all the "kde is bloated" people are smoking crack |
| 07:03.43 | ShockValue | yakuake is coolio :) |
| 07:03.52 | youknow365 | im using a barebone kde |
| 07:04.04 | Renze | I'm using all of KDE, and it's plenty fast |
| 07:04.04 | youknow365 | no huge office packages none of that |
| 07:04.17 | youknow365 | i only put what i need |
| 07:04.48 | youknow365 | ShockValue: yak is very cool i agree |
| 07:05.17 | ShockValue | i just discovered it tonight.. its handy |
| 07:05.41 | youknow365 | ShockValue: i use both Konsole and yak .......yak can get annoying something |
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| 07:07.14 | youknow365 | although i really wish Konqueror wouldnt crash like it does |
| 07:07.36 | Renze | konqueror crashes? |
| 07:07.41 | youknow365 | yes |
| 07:07.46 | Renze | it doesn't here |
| 07:07.47 | youknow365 | for web browsing atleast |
| 07:08.03 | Renze | unless I go to microsoft.com... but who would want to go there? |
| 07:08.16 | ShockValue | i like Konq, but im addicted to the firefox method of "ctrl-f" so I use that instead |
| 07:08.19 | youknow365 | what version of kde are you using ? |
| 07:08.23 | Renze | 3.5.4 |
| 07:08.30 | youknow365 | im still using .2 |
| 07:08.41 | youknow365 | what distro ? |
| 07:08.45 | Renze | gentoo |
| 07:08.50 | youknow365 | ahhhhh |
| 07:08.54 | youknow365 | slackware here |
| 07:09.01 | Renze | I build my own apps |
| 07:09.07 | youknow365 | same |
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| 07:09.19 | youknow365 | slackware is basically like gentoo in that reguard |
| 07:09.36 | Renze | except that slackpacks usually contain binaries |
| 07:09.50 | youknow365 | there hardly any slackpacks avaliable |
| 07:09.54 | youknow365 | usually always older |
| 07:09.59 | youknow365 | versions of software |
| 07:10.12 | Renze | portage is usually always up-to-date |
| 07:10.20 | youknow365 | yes i know |
| 07:10.26 | youknow365 | i used gentoo for a little while |
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| 07:11.05 | youknow365 | slackware is known for its stability |
| 07:11.41 | youknow365 | do you think compiling the kerrnel does any good ? |
| 07:11.48 | mobtek | well composite doesn't seem total crap under xorg 7.1.1 |
| 07:12.13 | Renze | youknow365: I've compiled my own kernels for the past 7½ years |
| 07:12.31 | youknow365 | hmmmmmm |
| 07:12.37 | youknow365 | i have never done it |
| 07:12.45 | youknow365 | does it do any good to compile it yourself ? |
| 07:13.16 | Renze | I know exactly what's in it, and there's nothing in there I don't use :) |
| 07:13.28 | mobtek | yay shadows again |
| 07:13.36 | mobtek | hmm depth is good fer the eyes :) |
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| 07:14.37 | youknow365 | Renze: do you use a splash screen for booting ? |
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| 07:14.42 | yacyac | anyone around |
| 07:14.51 | Renze | youknow365: no, I like watching the technical stuff :D |
| 07:15.01 | youknow365 | ahhhhh |
| 07:15.06 | youknow365 | i want to add one |
| 07:15.06 | Renze | <--- geek |
| 07:15.10 | yacyac | when i do startkde it doesnt go in the wm .. it gives me error ... " kpersonalizer : cannot connect to X server |
| 07:15.28 | Renze | yacyac: startkde needs X to be started already |
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| 07:15.51 | yacyac | how do i do that now |
| 07:15.58 | yacyac | Renze how do i do that now |
| 07:16.00 | youknow365 | startx |
| 07:16.04 | youknow365 | ;) |
| 07:16.33 | Renze | yacyac: put "exec startkde" in ~/.xinit (I think) and type 'startx' |
| 07:16.38 | yacyac | same things happens when i add startkde in xinit |
| 07:16.44 | Renze | I don't use startx, so your mileage may vary |
| 07:16.49 | yacyac | let me try it again |
| 07:16.56 | youknow365 | try startx :P |
| 07:17.12 | youknow365 | Renze: i like slackware becasue i know it in and out |
| 07:17.30 | youknow365 | well i actually use slax a small modified version of slack |
| 07:17.32 | Renze | youknow365: I like gentoo because it's less work than the LFS I was using before :P |
| 07:18.01 | yacyac | works now :P |
| 07:18.02 | yacyac | llol |
| 07:18.04 | yacyac | silly me |
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| 07:18.27 | axxsa | omfg... www.groomgle.com just released a public gmail hack, lets you easily manipulate you're google page rank... who should i contact??? |
| 07:18.45 | Renze | axxsa: what does that have to do with KDE? |
| 07:18.46 | youknow365 | LFS? |
| 07:18.55 | Renze | youknow365: Linux From Scratch |
| 07:19.00 | youknow365 | ahhhh |
| 07:19.06 | youknow365 | slack is basically that ;) |
| 07:19.14 | youknow365 | well for me anyways |
| 07:19.17 | Renze | youknow365: not quite... trust me :D |
| 07:19.27 | youknow365 | yea i know |
| 07:19.39 | youknow365 | how long does it take for kerrnel to compile ? |
| 07:19.41 | yacyac | i have another issue now ... sound server information message... some file cannot be opened... permession denied |
| 07:19.47 | Renze | youknow365: takes about 10 minutes for me |
| 07:19.56 | youknow365 | yea hmmmm |
| 07:20.07 | youknow365 | how long does it take you to get your whole gentoo up / |
| 07:20.08 | youknow365 | ? |
| 07:20.10 | Renze | yacyac: check your permissions (or your user's groups) |
| 07:20.20 | ironfroggy | my kubuntu is asking me to install ruby for its amarok upgrade. is there an explicit tie between amarok and ruby or are the plugins dcop based? |
| 07:20.20 | Renze | youknow365: from what stage? |
| 07:20.40 | Renze | ironfroggy: some of amarok's scripts (and the last.fm proxy) use ruby |
| 07:21.15 | youknow365 | Renze: 1st |
| 07:21.21 | ironfroggy | Renze: ok but that doesnt really answer my question |
| 07:21.31 | Renze | youknow365: I can't remember... I only ever installed gentoo once, and that was two years ago |
| 07:21.46 | Renze | ironfroggy: that is the tie between amarok and ruby |
| 07:21.52 | ironfroggy | its scripts being in ruby dont necessitate that amarok have any clue about ruby, if they interacted via dcop. |
| 07:22.07 | ironfroggy | That really sucks. im surprised that was allowed through. |
| 07:22.08 | Renze | ironfroggy: the scripts are WRITTEN in ruby |
| 07:22.13 | Renze | yeesh |
| 07:22.15 | ironfroggy | Renze: so? |
| 07:22.22 | Renze | they need ruby to work? |
| 07:22.23 | ironfroggy | Renze: amarok doesnt have to know that. |
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| 07:22.33 | Renze | the scripts SHIP WITH AMAROK |
| 07:22.46 | Renze | yeesh |
| 07:22.57 | ironfroggy | plugins should be optional, especially if they force pulling in a new language. |
| 07:23.13 | ironfroggy | and i was just asking an architectual question. dont yell! |
| 07:23.26 | Renze | sorry... ignorance offends me |
| 07:23.40 | ironfroggy | then you must hate looking in the mirror. |
| 07:23.52 | rohanpm | ironfroggy: the reason it needs ruby is because the lyrics fetching script needs it, which (I think) can't be turned off... it's not a "script manager" script |
| 07:23.54 | Renze | actually, I do... but for a completely different reason |
| 07:24.09 | youknow365 | Renze: lol |
| 07:24.11 | Renze | the lyrics fetcher can be turned off |
| 07:24.45 | ironfroggy | it just surprises me because kde has gone for a long time being very agnostic toward languages. |
| 07:25.02 | Renze | amarok is not part of KDE... it can be built without dependency to KDE at all |
| 07:25.03 | ironfroggy | besides its C++ base, of course. |
| 07:25.27 | ironfroggy | amarok is a kde project, isnt it? |
| 07:25.48 | Renze | not really |
| 07:25.58 | Renze | it can use KDE, but it doesn't need it |
| 07:26.04 | youknow365 | juK is offical kde music player |
| 07:26.34 | youknow365 | i actually prefer casue all i wnat is organized album 's with hot keys al of which it provides at less resources |
| 07:26.41 | ironfroggy | some distros stopped shipping juk anymore |
| 07:27.03 | ShockValue | amarok is the only reason im using linux :) |
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| 07:27.17 | youknow365 | ShockValue: a very sad boy you are then |
| 07:27.46 | ShockValue | m$ indirectly pays my paycheck.. |
| 07:28.04 | youknow365 | the reason i use linux is becasue of great development enviroment .........and if theres an error i can figure it out |
| 07:28.12 | youknow365 | 2ndly i have complete control |
| 07:28.29 | youknow365 | i dont like my stuff bloated, nice and light |
| 07:28.30 | ironfroggy | what tired old arguments those are |
| 07:28.31 | wizard123 | my favourite topic |
| 07:28.33 | wizard123 | :) |
| 07:28.46 | wizard123 | i use linux only because it supports my hardware |
| 07:28.54 | wizard123 | otherwise i eouldn't |
| 07:29.03 | youknow365 | what would you use ? |
| 07:29.08 | wizard123 | freebsd |
| 07:29.10 | Renze | I use linux because it rocks |
| 07:29.25 | youknow365 | i never used any of those unix variants |
| 07:29.46 | wizard123 | youknow365: linux is an unix variant iirc |
| 07:29.53 | wizard123 | Renze: sex pistols rocks :) |
| 07:29.54 | ShockValue | my first attempt at something other than M$ was freebsd.. but i had no clue what i was doing |
| 07:30.01 | youknow365 | wizard123: you know what i mean |
| 07:30.07 | Renze | wizard123: I disagree... I was never a fan of punk |
| 07:30.16 | ironfroggy | linux sucks. i use it because it was easier to get ssh working properly for all my uses. |
| 07:30.26 | wizard123 | :) |
| 07:30.37 | Renze | wizard123: although Talking Heads is cool |
| 07:30.44 | youknow365 | lol |
| 07:30.49 | wizard123 | Renze: i don't know it |
| 07:30.58 | Renze | a band from the punk era |
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| 07:31.07 | Renze | look it up on wikipedia |
| 07:31.08 | wizard123 | Renze: i'm to young ;) |
| 07:31.14 | duane | anyone here use pclinuxos? |
| 07:31.16 | youknow365 | i use linux becasue i like linux and without a doubt is becoming the most popular of them all |
| 07:31.19 | Renze | I'm surrounded by children! |
| 07:31.19 | duane | or has used it? |
| 07:31.20 | youknow365 | i did lol |
| 07:31.24 | youknow365 | i did |
| 07:31.27 | youknow365 | POS |
| 07:31.40 | duane | you didn't like it? |
| 07:31.44 | wizard123 | Renze: i'm not a child ;) but ok |
| 07:31.50 | youknow365 | duane: get to your point ? |
| 07:31.53 | youknow365 | you use it ? |
| 07:31.59 | wizard123 | :( |
| 07:32.02 | ShockValue | im probably older than you.. but i still never really got into the pistols. |
| 07:32.03 | duane | youknow365: yeah |
| 07:32.10 | youknow365 | what version |
| 07:32.11 | youknow365 | .92 |
| 07:32.13 | youknow365 | or .93 |
| 07:32.16 | duane | the newest one |
| 07:32.18 | ShockValue | although i did see PIL in concert a long time ago :) |
| 07:32.41 | youknow365 | duane: well if you liek the rpm package enviroment and want everything spoon fed to you and very bloated, its for you |
| 07:32.45 | wizard123 | Renze: talking heads was american band |
| 07:32.52 | wizard123 | i hate american music |
| 07:32.52 | Renze | wizard123: yes |
| 07:33.04 | duane | youknow365: how is it bloated? |
| 07:33.05 | Renze | it's not all bad... most of it is, but not all :D |
| 07:33.11 | youknow365 | duane: lol |
| 07:33.15 | duane | what what do you define as spoon fed? |
| 07:33.17 | ShockValue | wow, way to generalize. |
| 07:33.20 | wizard123 | Renze: you are absolutely right |
| 07:33.20 | youknow365 | wizard123: where do you live ? |
| 07:33.22 | duane | kde by definition is bloated lol |
| 07:33.28 | wizard123 | in Poland |
| 07:33.33 | youknow365 | duane: not mine |
| 07:33.36 | wizard123 | @ youknow365 |
| 07:33.40 | youknow365 | ye |
| 07:33.40 | Renze | duane: I see no bloat |
| 07:33.42 | youknow365 | lol |
| 07:34.00 | youknow365 | no offense but all the polish people around here are white as cotton |
| 07:34.08 | duane | i didnt find pclos any more bloated than any other kde distro |
| 07:34.11 | duane | like opensuse |
| 07:34.12 | ShockValue | im no patriot, but i'd like to point out there are more things in the US than McDonalds and Britney spears |
| 07:34.26 | youknow365 | lol |
| 07:34.27 | Renze | ShockValue: there are? |
| 07:34.28 | Renze | :D |
| 07:34.34 | youknow365 | of course there are |
| 07:34.41 | youknow365 | Renze: where you live ? |
| 07:34.42 | Renze | ShockValue: oh yeah, that tyrant GWB... :) |
| 07:34.42 | ShockValue | you just have to look harder :) |
| 07:34.43 | wizard123 | youknow365: white on faces? |
| 07:34.46 | Renze | New Zealand |
| 07:34.52 | youknow365 | wizard123: skin tone |
| 07:34.57 | wizard123 | heh |
| 07:35.05 | duane | ok i remember why i joined this channel... |
| 07:35.11 | youknow365 | Renze: that explains it :P |
| 07:35.17 | wizard123 | youknow365: :) |
| 07:35.18 | Renze | youknow365: explains what? |
| 07:35.29 | duane | is there a way that windows can read my linux partition? |
| 07:35.32 | youknow365 | duane: i starrt out with a kerrnel and then i add kde and whatever else i need |
| 07:35.42 | wizard123 | duane: yes |
| 07:35.49 | Renze | duane: there are apps for reading ext2 filesystems for linux, but I don't know if they work or not |
| 07:35.50 | youknow365 | Renze: nevermind you made a comment about us, about music etc etc |
| 07:35.55 | ShockValue | yeah yeah.. all US music sucks, all brits have bad teeth, polocks are dumb, irish are all drunks, and the Kiwi's are lazy slobs... etc etc. |
| 07:35.58 | duane | youknow365: how? |
| 07:36.01 | youknow365 | Renze: ya would have to live here |
| 07:36.05 | wizard123 | duane: this is possibly wrong channel :P but yes, it can |
| 07:36.15 | youknow365 | duane: what ddo you mean how ? theres multiple ways |
| 07:36.27 | wizard123 | duane: depends on fs too |
| 07:36.38 | Renze | duane: er, for windows* sorry, haven't used that crap since 1998 |
| 07:36.42 | duane | reiser ir what im using |
| 07:36.45 | duane | is* |
| 07:36.53 | youknow365 | ShockValue: where do you live ? |
| 07:37.00 | Renze | duane: I think you're sh!t out of luck with reiser |
| 07:37.09 | ShockValue | US |
| 07:37.09 | duane | :( |
| 07:37.14 | youknow365 | where in US |
| 07:37.30 | wizard123 | duane: my brother dound reiserfs for windows |
| 07:37.32 | ShockValue | just outside of seattle |
| 07:37.37 | youknow365 | ahhh |
| 07:37.40 | duane | dound? |
| 07:37.41 | youknow365 | i live in US also |
| 07:37.42 | youknow365 | PR |
| 07:37.46 | Renze | ShockValue: is it raining right now? :D |
| 07:37.49 | wizard123 | duane: it worked in read-only mode |
| 07:37.56 | ShockValue | no, its fricken hot |
| 07:38.00 | duane | i see |
| 07:38.14 | Renze | ShockValue: doesn't the pacific northwest get lots of rain? |
| 07:38.23 | youknow365 | ShockValue: you dont know hot unless you been to where i been :P |
| 07:38.28 | ShockValue | Seattlites like to propegate the myth that it rains here all the time, just to keep everyone else the fk out |
| 07:38.33 | youknow365 | am i should say |
| 07:38.41 | ShockValue | pheonix? :) |
| 07:38.49 | youknow365 | no pr |
| 07:38.56 | ShockValue | what is pr? |
| 07:38.59 | youknow365 | lol |
| 07:39.01 | youknow365 | Puerto Rico |
| 07:39.02 | Renze | paraguay? |
| 07:39.11 | ShockValue | oh, my step-mom is from PR |
| 07:39.16 | youknow365 | yes |
| 07:39.18 | ShockValue | i dont knwo her that well though |
| 07:39.19 | youknow365 | part of the US |
| 07:39.51 | wizard123 | youknow365: that's why you said that polish people are white as cotton :P ? |
| 07:40.02 | youknow365 | wizard123: lol what ? |
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| 07:40.08 | youknow365 | how does that chnage things ? |
| 07:40.19 | wizard123 | it sounds funny :) |
| 07:40.26 | youknow365 | im very light skin tonned myself .......have a little pigment |
| 07:40.29 | youknow365 | but i live in PR |
| 07:40.38 | Renze | I was born in The Netherlands |
| 07:41.10 | ShockValue | i live in seattle (no sun, ever) and im dark enough to get searched at every friggen airport. |
| 07:41.18 | youknow365 | i was in Ireland for a little while |
| 07:41.37 | Renze | ShockValue: stop wearing that towel on your head and have a shave :D |
| 07:41.41 | youknow365 | ShockValue: ?? whats your heritage ? |
| 07:41.44 | ShockValue | damn that southern french heritage :) |
| 07:41.55 | wizard123 | :) |
| 07:41.59 | youknow365 | my whole family is french and im light as shit |
| 07:42.10 | youknow365 | they go around speaking french |
| 07:42.16 | Renze | merde! |
| 07:42.34 | youknow365 | should i say i used ot be light |
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| 07:42.52 | youknow365 | it would take like 10 years of no sun ofr my skin to go back to naturl skin tone |
| 07:43.00 | ShockValue | Im 50% brit, 50% french... i hate myself :) |
| 07:43.15 | youknow365 | French/Irish |
| 07:43.19 | youknow365 | 80 percent french |
| 07:43.32 | wizard123 | pole, 100% |
| 07:43.34 | wizard123 | :D |
| 07:43.47 | ShockValue | Im proude to love the frenchm just because it makes people here in the US cranky at me |
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| 07:43.49 | Renze | 100% dutch |
| 07:44.01 | youknow365 | wizard123: its not the white that really bothers me its hwne you are so white you have a pink / red tint to ya |
| 07:44.21 | youknow365 | ShockValue: wherewere you born ? |
| 07:44.28 | Renze | youknow365: albino? |
| 07:44.28 | ShockValue | NW US |
| 07:44.37 | wizard123 | :S |
| 07:44.39 | youknow365 | i guess so |
| 07:44.39 | ShockValue | i havent moved far from where i was born :) |
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| 07:44.48 | youknow365 | then your American :P |
| 07:45.02 | ShockValue | never said i wasnt. |
| 07:45.08 | youknow365 | i see people from like poland netherlands etc are super white |
| 07:45.14 | youknow365 | ShockValue: ahhh |
| 07:45.25 | ShockValue | mostly i like to think im "human". dont care for border disputes much |
| 07:45.38 | wizard123 | youknow365: but who actually cares about it? |
| 07:45.46 | Renze | patriotism is a virtue of the vicious -- oscar wilde |
| 07:45.50 | youknow365 | ShockValue: me either i think it where you live not where your from |
| 07:45.58 | youknow365 | wizard123: about what ? |
| 07:46.16 | wizard123 | about skin colour :P |
| 07:46.18 | youknow365 | lol |
| 07:46.24 | youknow365 | us girls are tanned as shit |
| 07:46.39 | ShockValue | 99% of the hardcore patriots in the US have never even seen another country.. thats what i dont understand. |
| 07:46.53 | youknow365 | ShockValue: and ? |
| 07:47.06 | youknow365 | theres 2 big oceans on both sides |
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| 07:47.15 | youknow365 | not like europe where you can drive to spain |
| 07:47.21 | ShockValue | how can you say "The US is the bestest in the world!!!!" when you've never even been to another country |
| 07:47.28 | wizard123 | everything begans cuz i told Renze that i hate american music :P |
| 07:47.30 | youknow365 | no body says that |
| 07:47.36 | ShockValue | lots of people say that |
| 07:47.39 | youknow365 | lol |
| 07:47.41 | youknow365 | well dude |
| 07:47.44 | youknow365 | go visit naother country |
| 07:47.50 | youknow365 | come back and say you dont like america |
| 07:48.00 | youknow365 | i have been to france |
| 07:48.03 | youknow365 | and spain |
| 07:48.06 | Renze | ShockValue: visit Canada :D |
| 07:48.09 | ShockValue | i spent 9 months in italy and traveling europe |
| 07:48.16 | youknow365 | your not judged on where you live / where you came from / your last name etc |
| 07:48.26 | youknow365 | ShockValue: then you should know what i mean |
| 07:48.54 | youknow365 | Renze: Canada is cold :( |
| 07:48.59 | rohanpm | Are you judged on you're grammar? |
| 07:49.00 | Renze | youknow365: is that bad? |
| 07:49.13 | youknow365 | PR is usually 85095 F |
| 07:49.17 | youknow365 | 85-95 |
| 07:49.24 | youknow365 | rohanpm: where did you come from |
| 07:49.25 | ShockValue | i think i'm being mis-interpreted |
| 07:49.27 | Renze | what's that in metric? |
| 07:49.39 | ShockValue | 85' in seattle today :) |
| 07:49.39 | rohanpm | Renze: I think it's around 30 |
| 07:49.44 | Renze | too hot |
| 07:49.45 | youknow365 | no |
| 07:49.49 | youknow365 | 35 C |
| 07:49.49 | rohanpm | youknow365: Australia |
| 07:49.54 | Renze | way too hot |
| 07:50.01 | wizard123 | :) |
| 07:50.09 | youknow365 | hotter th better |
| 07:50.12 | youknow365 | beaches galore |
| 07:50.13 | rohanpm | youknow365: well actually I didn't "come from" anywhere, because I'm still here |
| 07:50.17 | wizard123 | Renze: 15-20 is enoug for me :) |
| 07:50.34 | youknow365 | << hates snow |
| 07:50.35 | Renze | wizard123: that's more than enough for me :) |
| 07:50.41 | rohanpm | Summer sucks, especially because of all the bugs |
| 07:50.43 | Renze | I haven't seen snow in 20 years |
| 07:50.54 | Renze | except on TV |
| 07:51.00 | wizard123 | poor Renze |
| 07:51.32 | youknow365 | lol @ rohanpm thats cause you live in AU |
| 07:51.34 | ShockValue | Iron and Wine is a good US 'band' (guy) :) |
| 07:51.49 | youknow365 | i listen to hip hop so yea |
| 07:51.59 | youknow365 | and alot of r&b |
| 07:52.12 | wizard123 | i don't even treat hip hop as music :) |
| 07:52.25 | youknow365 | i like classic rock also |
| 07:52.30 | youknow365 | styx |
| 07:52.46 | youknow365 | wizard123: then you havent heard real hip hop or any good stuff ...... |
| 07:52.56 | Renze | hip hop sucks |
| 07:53.00 | ShockValue | I like music. some of it moves me more than others... but thats not the music, thats me. |
| 07:53.23 | youknow365 | Renze: have to grow up to it i guess |
| 07:53.33 | rohanpm | Popular hip-hop is like Britney Spears' music with men talking angrily instead of girls singing |
| 07:53.35 | wizard123 | they don't use real instruments :) |
| 07:53.41 | youknow365 | i like Beyonce Trina |
| 07:53.46 | youknow365 | wizard123: yes they do |
| 07:54.04 | ShockValue | uh oh!! someone define "real" instrument, quick! |
| 07:54.09 | ShockValue | im so confused |
| 07:54.26 | Renze | ones that you have to expend some effort to get nice sounds out of |
| 07:54.28 | youknow365 | wizard123: lol jay z uses only real ::::: instruments |
| 07:54.45 | wizard123 | ShockValue: like guitars, drums ? |
| 07:54.49 | youknow365 | jayz/lincoln park collab |
| 07:54.55 | ShockValue | synthesizer? |
| 07:55.05 | wizard123 | :S |
| 07:55.20 | youknow365 | synthesizer is main instrument in hip hop |
| 07:55.27 | youknow365 | that and drum |
| 07:55.52 | Renze | those aren't real instruments |
| 07:55.54 | ShockValue | nailgun isnt a real tool, becuase it's way easier than a regular hammer. |
| 07:56.08 | youknow365 | lol |
| 07:56.11 | wizard123 | Renze: :) |
| 07:56.21 | ShockValue | so the things you build with the nailgun isnt any good. |
| 07:56.27 | youknow365 | drum is primary instrument in most music |
| 07:56.35 | Renze | not in classical music |
| 07:56.47 | youknow365 | ok classsical |
| 07:56.48 | wizard123 | Not in metal |
| 07:57.03 | Renze | nor in jazz |
| 07:57.10 | youknow365 | metal is somehting i dont classify as music at all all that 1970 acid rock crap |
| 07:57.17 | wizard123 | nor in rock |
| 07:57.21 | youknow365 | jazz yes |
| 07:57.25 | youknow365 | rock yes |
| 07:57.25 | wizard123 | what ?! |
| 07:57.45 | youknow365 | 99 percent of rock songs have some form of a drum in it |
| 07:57.58 | Renze | main instrument in jazz is piano, or saxophone, or clarinet, or trumpet... |
| 07:58.00 | wizard123 | it only works as background |
| 07:58.17 | youknow365 | thats all drums are forin all music |
| 07:58.21 | youknow365 | to add a baseline |
| 07:58.42 | youknow365 | Renze: light drums are ofte n used |
| 07:59.03 | Renze | yes, but they are not the main instrument... just accompaniment |
| 07:59.19 | youknow365 | depends on artist song etc |
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| 07:59.22 | ShockValue | themesong for 2001.. lots of drums.. Holtz , Mars Bringer of War - lots of drums |
| 07:59.26 | Renze | and I have a lot of jazz that is just piano and vocalist |
| 07:59.40 | ShockValue | im not much into classical, but i know those 2 pretty well :) |
| 07:59.42 | wizard123 | :) |
| 08:00.03 | Renze | Miles Davis kicks ass |
| 08:00.12 | ShockValue | not sure if you want to classify "marches" as classical music, but there's lots of drums in that too |
| 08:01.59 | rohanpm | viva free music |
| 08:02.07 | youknow365 | i was in argentina for a little while.......everyone tough people in US eat mc donalds everyday |
| 08:02.16 | youknow365 | just got back today |
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| 08:03.01 | pavi | I wanna create a distro based on KDE running GNU/Linux on telugu ... |
| 08:03.22 | pavi | This would be in the lines of swecha ... www.swecha.org |
| 08:03.26 | pavi | Mine is kswecha |
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| 08:32.43 | athlonmax | how to develop skins for xine |
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| 08:32.57 | eastwood | why do you ask in #kde? |
| 08:33.14 | wizard123 | pavi: you want to build your distro? |
| 08:33.23 | athlonmax | lol |
| 08:33.35 | athlonmax | tell me |
| 08:33.50 | athlonmax | Is there a way to customize kcalc ? |
| 08:34.08 | athlonmax | I want to change the buttons skins |
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| 08:34.42 | eastwood | it changes if you change the theme |
| 08:34.43 | wizard123 | i think only when you change theme |
| 08:34.45 | athlonmax | to make them look like the best and more user friendly computer calc program out there ,ms calc :) |
| 08:34.59 | eastwood | use baghira for example |
| 08:35.03 | eastwood | they will change |
| 08:35.04 | athlonmax | So i will maybe recompile it to anble this feature |
| 08:35.10 | eastwood | recompile? |
| 08:35.14 | wizard123 | athlonmax: you don't need to recompile |
| 08:35.24 | eastwood | omg, just install a theme ffs |
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| 08:35.33 | wizard123 | just select qt windows theme :) |
| 08:35.40 | wizard123 | it's qt builtin style |
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| 08:35.56 | pavi | wizard123 yes |
| 08:36.17 | wizard123 | did you create project aims? |
| 08:36.26 | pavi | ye |
| 08:36.28 | pavi | yes |
| 08:36.38 | athlonmax | no |
| 08:36.46 | athlonmax | I want to write my own calc ;) |
| 08:36.49 | pavi | telugu versions of Konqueror ,kmail,kopete etc |
| 08:36.52 | athlonmax | with xp calc skin ;) |
| 08:36.56 | pavi | to be made available |
| 08:37.06 | wizard123 | telugu? |
| 08:37.12 | Renze | what is telugu? |
| 08:37.19 | pavi | telugu is a language in hyderabad india |
| 08:37.21 | wizard123 | language |
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| 08:37.44 | Renze | pavi: check l10n.kde.org and see if there is a translation project for telugu already |
| 08:38.04 | pavi | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telugu |
| 08:38.30 | pavi | renze I know that but I am planning an own distro |
| 08:38.48 | Renze | pavi: and why are you mentioning that in #kde? |
| 08:38.48 | pavi | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telugu_language |
| 08:38.52 | athlonmax | lol |
| 08:39.01 | pavi | cause its based on kde |
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| 08:39.50 | Renze | I don't see your point... you're mentioning your distro in here because it will use kde? |
| 08:40.39 | wizard123 | Renze: you live in a country where people speak english, sou you won't understand that |
| 08:40.42 | wizard123 | :D |
| 08:40.52 | Renze | I just don't see what it has to do with KDE |
| 08:41.18 | Renze | if you want to use kde in your distro, then use kde in your distro. plain and simple. |
| 08:41.25 | wizard123 | rotfl |
| 08:41.42 | wizard123 | he wants to create distro in telugu |
| 08:41.48 | Renze | wizard123: there are plenty of people here that don't speak much english :P |
| 08:42.03 | wizard123 | how cool |
| 08:42.03 | Renze | wizard123: and what does "distro" or "telugu" have to do with KDE? |
| 08:42.04 | wizard123 | :D |
| 08:42.05 | athlonmax | some even speak troll :) |
| 08:42.09 | athlonmax | ;) |
| 08:42.24 | pavi | https://sourceforge.net/projects/kswecha/ |
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| 08:42.45 | pavi | excuse me guys |
| 08:42.50 | Renze | pavi: just do it... you don't have to ask permission |
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| 08:43.03 | wizard123 | feel free, contact your language team |
| 08:43.19 | pavi | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telugu_language |
| 08:43.39 | Renze | pavi: why do you keep pasting links all the time? they're of no use to me. |
| 08:43.57 | pavi | dude no browser :D |
| 08:44.00 | Renze | I do not speak Telugu, nor do I have anything to do with the kde l10n project for telugu |
| 08:44.20 | RockMan | ciao |
| 08:44.32 | wizard123 | hi RockMan |
| 08:44.41 | athlonmax | renze,are you still using a linux kernel with microsoft code in it ? |
| 08:44.49 | Renze | pavi: if you want to help with the translation project, contact the team on l10n.kde.org |
| 08:45.21 | pavi | Telugu spoken at home |
| 08:45.21 | pavi | |
| 08:45.21 | pavi | 17 938 980 |
| 08:45.22 | pavi | |
| 08:45.22 | pavi | 18 675 586 |
| 08:45.31 | wizard123 | omg :) |
| 08:45.38 | Renze | pavi: Telugu spoken in NZ, pretty damn close to 0 |
| 08:45.56 | Renze | pavi: in other words, I don't care :) |
| 08:46.07 | pavi | 20 million speak telugu and thee is no KDE based distro for them :( |
| 08:46.19 | wizard123 | pavi: so make it ! |
| 08:46.19 | Renze | pavi: so make one! why are you bothering us about it? |
| 08:46.29 | Renze | KDE is a desktop environment, not a distro |
| 08:46.31 | wizard123 | pavi: we are just kde users |
| 08:46.45 | pavi | ohh not developers ! |
| 08:46.50 | pavi | sorry then |
| 08:46.59 | Renze | pavi: you don't have to be a developer to work on a translation team |
| 08:47.06 | pavi | ok |
| 08:47.10 | Renze | pavi: go and LOOK at l10n.kde.org |
| 08:47.17 | Renze | stop bothering us about it |
| 08:47.52 | athlonmax | renze,are you still using a linux kernel with microsoft code in it ? |
| 08:47.57 | Renze | pavi: this is the user support channel. if you want to talk to developers, go to #kde-devel |
| 08:48.13 | athlonmax | (renze tries to ignore th troll) |
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| 08:50.11 | Renze | sometimes explaining things to people is like pushing straw through concrete |
| 08:51.17 | wizard123 | man, imagine #ubuntu and questions like, why does winrar not work under my kubuntu? |
| 08:51.46 | wizard123 | or how can i install drivers from my cd? |
| 08:51.47 | Renze | wizard123: or "how do I get Outlook installed?" |
| 08:52.07 | padde | and the flames after you tell them that it's impossible |
| 08:52.41 | Renze | I remember people at university that thought Linux was just another version of Windows |
| 08:52.44 | athlonmax | lol |
| 08:52.45 | athlonmax | winrar |
| 08:53.14 | athlonmax | I think kde developers should start doing application that just work like in windows |
| 08:53.18 | athlonmax | don,t you ? |
| 08:53.19 | padde | Renze: yes, in fact it is, if you take Windows as a synonym for operating system... and people do that. |
| 08:53.33 | Renze | padde: no, they meant it literally :) |
| 08:53.39 | wizard123 | rotfl |
| 08:53.57 | athlonmax | and open office should look like word |
| 08:54.03 | wizard123 | what for? |
| 08:54.04 | athlonmax | with the blkue theme |
| 08:54.15 | Renze | they were stupid :D |
| 08:54.34 | Renze | they thought ALL operating systems were Windows |
| 08:54.37 | duane | whoever thought of the blue theme in xp should be shot |
| 08:54.39 | Renze | even MacOS |
| 08:54.48 | athlonmax | all decent operating system are windows |
| 08:54.54 | athlonmax | decent |
| 08:54.55 | athlonmax | :) |
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| 08:55.12 | athlonmax | geeks operating system are unix |
| 08:55.21 | athlonmax | system admin operating system are unix |
| 08:55.26 | athlonmax | that is like that |
| 08:56.13 | shastry | wrong notion ? |
| 08:56.23 | athlonmax | fashion girls operating systems are MacOs :) |
| 08:56.47 | athlonmax | do you know the percentage of hot chicks unsing mac :) |
| 08:56.55 | athlonmax | using |
| 08:57.36 | wizard123 | damn! i hate linux |
| 08:58.05 | shastry | lol |
| 08:58.16 | shastry | athlonmax: make that rich chicks |
| 08:58.19 | wizard123 | i did emerge -u system and that shitty os couldn't realize that i need some system resources for kde |
| 08:59.46 | athlonmax | why |
| 08:59.54 | athlonmax | macs are not that expensive |
| 09:00.59 | wizard123 | you killed him |
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| 09:03.52 | wizard123 | pavi was talking about telugu and i realized that i don't have any indic fonts :( |
| 09:04.17 | islamguidedotcom | does anyone know of a program that can fix jerky or corrupted video files? |
| 09:04.19 | Renze | me neither |
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| 09:04.38 | Renze | islamguidedotcom: if they're corrupted, they can't be fixed |
| 09:04.50 | islamguidedotcom | some .torrent downloads are completed but playing it it gets stuck at the same place each time |
| 09:05.07 | Renze | islamguidedotcom: be careful who you download from |
| 09:05.21 | islamguidedotcom | how do i do that? |
| 09:05.26 | islamguidedotcom | using ktorrent here |
| 09:05.27 | Renze | islamguidedotcom: you can't, really |
| 09:05.33 | Renze | islamguidedotcom: it's hit or miss |
| 09:05.48 | Renze | a lot of the stuff being torrented is of pretty bad quality |
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| 09:06.05 | islamguidedotcom | hmm.. i thought there's verify data integrity thingy |
| 09:06.10 | islamguidedotcom | y doesn't that work |
| 09:06.22 | Renze | because if it's already munted, there's no improving it |
| 09:06.34 | tobstarr | hi |
| 09:06.44 | Renze | islamguidedotcom: if you send a broken file, it won't magically get fixed, will it? |
| 09:06.50 | islamguidedotcom | i mean those that weren't "munted"<wads this? |
| 09:07.03 | Renze | "munted" is slang for "broken" |
| 09:07.12 | tobstarr | somehow i am not able to use the keyboard in a kde session any more. any ideas? |
| 09:07.24 | islamguidedotcom | i checked on the forums for that .torrent and it seems i'm the only one having the problem |
| 09:07.30 | tobstarr | i can use it to login and in failsave |
| 09:07.34 | islamguidedotcom | so i thought it was sth to do with connection |
| 09:07.50 | Renze | islamguidedotcom: no, it's nothing to do with the connection |
| 09:07.58 | tobstarr | when i do "mv .kde .kde.tmp" i can use it again |
| 09:08.06 | Renze | islamguidedotcom: chances are they're using windows media players that work around broken stuff |
| 09:08.51 | wizard123 | tobstarr: why not ? |
| 09:08.54 | islamguidedotcom | Renze, are there any in linux? |
| 09:09.03 | Renze | islamguidedotcom: not that I know of |
| 09:09.08 | tobstarr | wizard123: that is what i want to know |
| 09:09.11 | Renze | islamguidedotcom: but then I don't download broken videos |
| 09:09.18 | tobstarr | it has to be a configuration issue |
| 09:09.19 | wizard123 | tobstarr: of course you can |
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| 09:09.53 | tobstarr | wizard123: no, i can not |
| 09:10.01 | wizard123 | o_O |
| 09:10.02 | tobstarr | it has to be something in my configuration |
| 09:10.05 | islamguidedotcom | it's sad really.. 700mb of download.. 5 seconds of good pic quality then stop |
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| 09:10.38 | wizard123 | tobstarr: check logs what's wrong |
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| 09:11.19 | tobstarr | wizard123: are there any logs in my .kde fodler? |
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| 09:12.05 | wizard123 | my os logs x apps to ~/.xsession-erors |
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| 09:14.19 | tobstarr | brb |
| 09:15.20 | wizard123 | Renze: ping |
| 09:15.26 | Renze | ouch! |
| 09:16.47 | wizard123 | Renze: i need a help with english |
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| 09:16.54 | wizard123 | Renze: small :P |
| 09:17.04 | Renze | what with? |
| 09:17.17 | wizard123 | Renze: how is small rounded thing used to make ponytail called? |
| 09:17.33 | Renze | sorry, can't help you with that... I'm mostly bald :D |
| 09:17.53 | wizard123 | ask wife, or daughter :) |
| 09:18.00 | Renze | no wife... no daughter |
| 09:18.06 | wizard123 | damn.. |
| 09:18.32 | wizard123 | Renze: but you know what i'm talking about? |
| 09:18.43 | Renze | sort of, yes |
| 09:18.58 | wizard123 | ok |
| 09:19.22 | wizard123 | even online dictionaries dont have that word |
| 09:19.53 | Renze | the stretchy thing with the little metal bit holding it together, or the scrunchy fabric thing? |
| 09:20.09 | wizard123 | first one |
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| 09:26.37 | Renze | I think that's just called a hairband or something |
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| 09:26.38 | wizard123 | hmm |
| 09:26.38 | wizard123 | ok, thanks |
| 09:26.38 | Renze | no problem |
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| 09:26.39 | wizard123 | Renze: not that thing :D |
| 09:26.39 | wizard123 | damn.. |
| 09:26.39 | padde | it's called hair tie or scrunchy / scrunchie according to my dictionary ;) |
| 09:26.39 | Renze | oh, to have hair... *sigh* |
| 09:26.40 | wizard123 | Renze: :( |
| 09:27.15 | wizard123 | my hairs are now ~45 cm long |
| 09:27.37 | Renze | mine are around 5-10mm long |
| 09:27.47 | Renze | what's left of it |
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| 09:29.53 | wizard123 | padde: yes, thats it. thanks :) |
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| 09:33.30 | athlonmax | what is the location of the default "welcome message" of Kmail ? |
| 09:33.39 | PhilRod | Renze: oh, to *not* have hair - saves you all that nonsense of washing it and cutting it |
| 09:34.59 | PhilRod | comb? what does that do? |
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| 09:35.42 | wizard123 | PhilRod: burns your hair |
| 09:35.55 | wizard123 | PhilRod: sou you don't need to clean or cut it |
| 09:36.00 | wizard123 | s/clean/wash |
| 09:36.03 | athlonmax | please help |
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| 09:40.41 | mtyhome | hi |
| 09:40.49 | wizard123 | hi mtyhome |
| 09:41.01 | mtyhome | can someone gime a hand i can't get in kde anymore |
| 09:41.03 | mtyhome | :( |
| 09:41.20 | PhilRod | mtyhome: sure. What happens when you try to log into kde? |
| 09:41.49 | Renze | mtyhome: have you checked your ~/.xsession-errors file for any useful information? |
| 09:41.56 | mtyhome | kdm works fine then kde keeps showing the loading windows and thats it |
| 09:41.57 | mtyhome | yes |
| 09:42.21 | Renze | and was there any useful information? |
| 09:42.27 | PhilRod | mtyhome: try logging in as a different user (create it if it doesn't exist). Does that work? |
| 09:42.36 | mtyhome | PhilRod: no |
| 09:42.53 | wizard123 | mtyhome: check .xsession-errors |
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| 09:43.04 | mtyhome | i noticed something strange kded takes some time loading kmldonkeyd |
| 09:43.43 | GeneralZod | athlonmax:What distro are you using? |
| 09:44.10 | mtyhome | GeneralZod: me? |
| 09:44.14 | mtyhome | suse 10.1 |
| 09:45.11 | mtyhome | wizard123: it says kdeinit: fatal IO error: client killed |
| 09:45.12 | GeneralZod | mtyhome:No, not you - I was talking to athlonmax :) |
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| 09:45.36 | wizard123 | mtyhome: did you make pgrade last times? |
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| 09:46.44 | mtyhome | yes |
| 09:46.51 | mtyhome | this morning |
| 09:46.51 | wizard123 | voila :D |
| 09:47.24 | mtyhome | you mean upgrade? |
| 09:47.40 | wizard123 | yes :) |
| 09:47.54 | mtyhome | then what should i do? |
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| 09:48.40 | wizard123 | i don't know |
| 09:49.00 | wizard123 | i don't know suse and its package manager |
| 09:49.12 | mtyhome | wizard123: i used apt |
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| 09:50.33 | DeeTahPanLtah | my kde randomly permamently hides one of my auto-hide panels,after its long use. what could be a reason? |
| 09:50.38 | wizard123 | hmm.. maybe you should ask on #suse.. |
| 09:50.45 | DeeTahPanLtah | hm? |
| 09:50.58 | wizard123 | oops, sorry it was to mtyhome |
| 09:51.04 | DeeTahPanLtah | okay ;) |
| 09:51.19 | mtyhome | thx wizard123 |
| 09:51.26 | wizard123 | mtyhome: maybe somebody will know what to do |
| 09:52.00 | wizard123 | mtyhome: i allways compile apps from source.. |
| 09:52.19 | mtyhome | i know i was a gentooist |
| 09:52.52 | mtyhome | maybe i will shoot myself in the ass for considering suse |
| 09:53.00 | wizard123 | :) under slackware it was a pita. under freebsd - one command. now i have gentoo (yuck!) |
| 09:53.26 | mtyhome | wizard123: do you like it? |
| 09:53.43 | wizard123 | no :/ |
| 09:53.55 | Renze | gentoo works flawlessly for me... but then I know what I'm doing :D |
| 09:54.03 | mtyhome | wizard123: you prefer bsd? |
| 09:54.07 | wizard123 | yes |
| 09:54.37 | wizard123 | i even have netbsd installed |
| 09:54.46 | wizard123 | but it does not work (some acpi problems) |
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| 09:54.52 | wizard123 | (like allways) |
| 09:54.57 | mtyhome | i tryed it at the beginning of my little unix knowledge |
| 09:55.45 | wizard123 | later i'll try openbsd |
| 09:56.04 | mtyhome | to me they're all to looong to set up |
| 09:56.15 | mtyhome | gentoo is my GOD |
| 09:56.24 | wizard123 | gentoo is my curse :D |
| 09:56.30 | mtyhome | :D |
| 09:56.42 | wizard123 | i didn't find better distro than gentoo |
| 09:56.51 | wizard123 | but portage is pita |
| 09:57.02 | wizard123 | (for somebody familiar and happy with bsd ports) |
| 09:57.18 | mtyhome | yeah sometimes is a pain in the ass |
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| 09:58.43 | mtyhome | wizard123: do you think reinstalling kde will work? |
| 09:59.00 | wizard123 | mtyhome: maybe, you may try :) |
| 09:59.13 | wizard123 | or try stracing startkde ;) |
| 10:00.05 | wizard123 | omg, emerge -u system installed gcc 4 |
| 10:00.16 | wizard123 | is it crazy or what?! |
| 10:00.22 | mtyhome | strange |
| 10:00.41 | mtyhome | compiler should be admin-controlled upgrade |
| 10:00.48 | Renze | wizard123: that's what happens when you blindly install all updates |
| 10:01.26 | mtyhome | wizard123: it doesn't matter though, gentoo never updates config files |
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| 10:01.48 | wizard123 | ptok mati # gcc-config -c |
| 10:01.48 | wizard123 | x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-3.4.6 |
| 10:01.51 | wizard123 | uff |
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| 10:02.54 | mtyhome | wizard123: where are you from? |
| 10:03.06 | wizard123 | poland |
| 10:03.20 | wizard123 | why do you ask? |
| 10:03.48 | mtyhome | what do you mean by uff is why i'm asking |
| 10:04.22 | wizard123 | ah, right.. i should write it ooph.. or something like that ;) |
| 10:04.26 | wizard123 | sorry ;) |
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| 10:05.06 | njdube | I updated to ktorrent 2.0.2 and DHT wont work. |
| 10:06.22 | wizard123 | i don't want to know what won't work after updating glibc xD |
| 10:06.53 | Renze | wizard123: most stuff... which is why I'm leaving that update until I have some free time :D |
| 10:07.11 | mtyhome | wizard123: i'm stracing startx, it seems to freeze on kbuildsycoca running... |
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| 10:07.32 | wizard123 | should i pray to all available gods right now? |
| 10:07.36 | islamguidedotcom | my kicker panel just died on me |
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| 10:07.44 | Renze | anywho, I'm dragging my kiwi ass to bed |
| 10:07.52 | wizard123 | :D |
| 10:07.58 | wizard123 | good night |
| 10:08.14 | islamguidedotcom | simply dissappeared.. desperately pointing my cursor on the bottom screen to no avail.. |
| 10:08.15 | mtyhome | Renze: sleep tight |
| 10:08.26 | njdube | What distros are you guys (or girls) using? |
| 10:08.37 | islamguidedotcom | njdube, fedora 5 |
| 10:08.42 | mtyhome | suse 10.1 unfortunately |
| 10:08.43 | Liquid_Fire | islamguidedotcom: crashed? just run it again |
| 10:08.44 | wizard123 | currently gentoo :( |
| 10:08.50 | Liquid_Fire | gentoo |
| 10:09.03 | njdube | I tru suse 10.1 but then went back to 10.0. |
| 10:09.09 | islamguidedotcom | Liquid_Fire, does it happen on urs? |
| 10:09.24 | Liquid_Fire | islamguidedotcom: well, rarely, but it has happened to me, yes :) |
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| 10:09.44 | njdube | The last distro I used from red hat was 5.2. I haven't ried fedora yet. |
| 10:09.56 | njdube | tried... |
| 10:10.27 | islamguidedotcom | Liquid_Fire, the thing is it's not really hung or anything.. just refuse to come out of hiding for some reason i guess |
| 10:10.50 | islamguidedotcom | killin it and rerunning it shows it for a while b4 it hides permanently again |
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| 10:11.36 | islamguidedotcom | i have to station my mouse when it appears that moment and drag the kicker panel to the other part of the screen to fix it |
| 10:12.11 | islamguidedotcom | Liquid_Fire, is that your account of how it happened too? |
| 10:12.19 | njdube | Never eat waffles with syrup in front of your monitor, the static attracts the think syrup dripping off the waffle and sticks to the damn screen. |
| 10:12.54 | Liquid_Fire | islamguidedotcom: not really, mine just crashes sometimes, and i don't hide it anyway :) |
| 10:12.54 | njdube | I mean then not think... |
| 10:12.55 | njdube | Stupid spell checker. |
| 10:13.11 | islamguidedotcom | i have a feeling it's a bug but it occurs randomly once in a while.. i have no idea what caused it |
| 10:13.19 | islamguidedotcom | and i don't think it's distro specific |
| 10:13.33 | njdube | God damn it! I mean thin not then. I've been up to long. |
| 10:13.59 | islamguidedotcom | njdube, Hold your fire! |
| 10:14.06 | njdube | SOrry. |
| 10:14.28 | islamguidedotcom | Liquid_Fire, X Error: BadWindow (invalid Window parameter) 3 |
| 10:14.30 | njdube | I can't type tonight, it's 5 in the morning and I haven't gone to bed in a while. |
| 10:14.42 | islamguidedotcom | i get that error after rerunning kicker and doing the above tweaks |
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| 10:15.13 | wizard123 | islamguidedotcom: ehy do you have this site as your nick? |
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| 10:17.38 | tafsen | Can anyone tell me why I don't get IP using KnetworkManager? |
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| 10:18.15 | njdube | Because KnetworkManager sucks! |
| 10:18.20 | njdube | Just kidding, I don't know. |
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| 10:18.34 | islamguidedotcom | tafsen, u can go www.whatismyip.com |
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| 10:19.58 | tafsen | islamguidedotcom, not like that. I need to run dhclient or dhcpcd to get my inet connection to work |
| 10:20.09 | njdube | I found KnetworkManager kind of annoying when I tried it in suse 10.1. It was cute the first 30 times pop ups would tell me a new router was in range. After 60 times it got old. |
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| 10:21.35 | njdube | I also found it REALLY annoying that it would connect me to the network until I logged on KDE. Which it should have been done the moment I booted linux. |
| 10:21.52 | islamguidedotcom | njdube, any idea how to port that neat suse's search feature for kmenu to other distros |
| 10:22.00 | njdube | Or should I say I wouldn't connect me until logging in. |
| 10:22.00 | islamguidedotcom | thats the number one thing i miss abt suse |
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| 10:23.16 | njdube | For a moment I didn't know what you where talking about. I had to actually look in the kmenu and didn't notice it until now. Good thing it wasn't a snake. ;) |
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| 10:23.39 | tafsen | islamguidedotcom, Do you know what service KNW uses to get the ip/gateway? |
| 10:23.53 | njdube | I'm using suse 10.0 which doesn't have the software. I'm using kinternet. |
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| 10:24.00 | islamguidedotcom | tafsen, no idea sorry.. |
| 10:24.14 | islamguidedotcom | tafsen, ur internet connection's not working? |
| 10:24.38 | njdube | If memory serves, KnetworkManager should be in either System or Utilities. |
| 10:25.22 | tafsen | islamguidedotcom, It works after I run dhclient in th termin |
| 10:25.33 | DeeTahPanLtah | 3/leave |
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| 10:26.08 | islamguidedotcom | 3/leave |
| 10:26.23 | islamguidedotcom | hm.. doesn't work |
| 10:27.29 | tafsen | islamguidedotcom, talking to me? |
| 10:28.10 | islamguidedotcom | tafsen, err no im referring to 3/leave deetahpantlasdfasdf typed |
| 10:30.47 | roxy_ | sometimes keyboard input stop working on some application (always one at a time: konsole, konqueror or eclipse). What can I do to investigate the problem ? |
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| 10:35.53 | roxy_ | the keyboard input keep working for other app and mouse input works all the time |
| 10:36.15 | wizard123 | roxy_: do you use something like scim? |
| 10:36.47 | Alpha-Toxic | hi ppl, any idea what's the CLI option to make konqueror open the URL in new tab instead of a new page? |
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| 10:37.04 | Alpha-Toxic | casue i couldn't find it in the man/help |
| 10:37.48 | rohanpm | Alpha-Toxic: kfmclient newTab 'url' |
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| 10:38.02 | Alpha-Toxic | k |
| 10:38.24 | Alpha-Toxic | thx |
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| 10:38.41 | Stormscape | You're in KDE? O RLY? |
| 10:38.46 | Stormscape | :P |
| 10:39.04 | Stormscape | I see you _Bittin_ :D |
| 10:39.14 | wizard123 | o_O |
| 10:39.26 | PhilRod | ? |
| 10:39.40 | wizard123 | Stormscape: i use twm and just sit here |
| 10:40.12 | _Bittin_ | Stormscape: Hi |
| 10:40.26 | roxy_ | wizard123: yes |
| 10:40.57 | wizard123 | hmm.. maybe this is the reason |
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| 10:43.08 | Alpha-Toxic | yep, i should have read "kfmclient --help", not only "konqueror --help" :) |
| 10:43.35 | roxy_ | wizard123: hmmm. |
| 10:43.59 | roxy_ | wizard123: do you also provide solution ? :-) |
| 10:44.19 | wizard123 | roxy_: i would if i had scim |
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| 10:44.39 | wizard123 | roxy_: actually i forgot to install it :P |
| 10:45.33 | roxy_ | wizard123: it doesn't happen often, maybe once/twice a day. I'll stop scim next time see if it changes something |
| 10:45.41 | wizard123 | ok |
| 10:46.00 | roxy_ | wizard123: thanks for your help |
| 10:46.04 | wizard123 | your welcome |
| 10:46.20 | wizard123 | actually i did nothing ;) |
| 10:46.50 | roxy_ | wizard123: I haven't thought of the problem being scim related . |
| 10:46.57 | wizard123 | ;] |
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| 10:48.05 | flaccid | how can i do a ./configure with the kde prefix |
| 10:48.15 | wizard123 | roxy_: does scim support japanese input? |
| 10:49.25 | flaccid | i get this on ./configure for knetstats |checking for KDE... configure: error:|in the prefix, you've chosen, are no KDE headers installed. This will fail.| So, check this please and use another prefix! |
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| 10:50.59 | wizard123 | flaccid: on rpm/deb system install kdelibs-devel |
| 10:51.21 | roxy_ | wizard123: はい |
| 10:51.37 | wizard123 | great |
| 10:51.39 | flaccid | wizard123: thanks muchly |
| 10:51.59 | wizard123 | flaccid: your wlecome |
| 10:52.12 | flaccid | hmm not in my ubuntu sources |
| 10:52.19 | roxy_ | wizard123: 日本語できる |
| 10:52.41 | wizard123 | nihongo dechiro |
| 10:52.59 | wizard123 | not chi |
| 10:53.04 | wizard123 | dekiro |
| 10:53.37 | roxy_ | dekiru |
| 10:54.07 | wizard123 | i allways mess chi with ki and sa and ro with ru |
| 10:54.10 | wizard123 | :P |
| 10:55.52 | roxy_ | wizard123: time to hit kiten then |
| 10:58.10 | wizard123 | roxy_: and find my books ;) |
| 10:59.12 | roxy_ | wizard123: and stop waisting time on irc :-) |
| 10:59.39 | wizard123 | i don't waste it :) i help |
| 11:00.04 | wizard123 | !!! All ebuilds that could satisfy "scim-qtimm" have been masked. |
| 11:00.12 | wizard123 | stoopit jentu |
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| 11:03.57 | bioticpro | Hello, is there a way to setup a usb game controller to move the pointer in kde? |
| 11:04.13 | thiago | that's an X question |
| 11:05.08 | bioticpro | I was hoping there was a setting in kde control that could do this |
| 11:05.18 | thiago | no, there isn't |
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| 11:05.21 | thiago | it's an X config |
| 11:05.30 | bioticpro | hmm, too bad |
| 11:05.44 | bioticpro | thiago: do you recommend a X config program that could do this? |
| 11:05.52 | wizard123 | it would be too nice to configure whole os from kcontrlo :) |
| 11:05.52 | thiago | yes, any text editor |
| 11:05.56 | thiago | provided X supports that at all |
| 11:06.57 | bioticpro | I know you can make kde allow the numpad arrows to move the pointer instead of mouse, so seems like you could link the numpad arrows to the gamepad axis, possibly |
| 11:07.45 | thiago | that's still X configuration, but in this case you're talking about accessibility |
| 11:07.57 | thiago | so, yes, KDE can configure accessibility |
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| 11:13.00 | shastry | is there a way i can change the default path of the file save dialog box ? |
| 11:13.01 | JohnFlux | bioticpro: hmm, use a game controller as an pointer input for xorg |
| 11:13.30 | bioticpro | JohnFlux: right, that is the general goal |
| 11:13.55 | bioticpro | I like the feel of my PS style controller better than a mouse, more ergo |
| 11:14.40 | wizard123 | bioticpro: so use it :) |
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| 11:26.07 | shastry | nm got it |
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| 11:36.21 | wizard123 | yay! scim works! |
| 11:36.51 | wizard123 | 私 |
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| 11:37.25 | Fenix_NBK_ | hi all ! |
| 11:37.38 | Fenix_NBK_ | I have serious problem with KDE keyboard shortcuts |
| 11:37.46 | Fenix_NBK_ | when I use Russian (or any non-english) input all text-related shortcuts stops working. |
| 11:37.51 | Fenix_NBK_ | any idea how to fix that? |
| 11:39.28 | Fenix_NBK_ | helloo ? |
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| 11:40.00 | wizard123 | hmm |
| 11:40.34 | wizard123 | Fenix_NBK_: i use russian phonetic keyboard, but everything works |
| 11:41.10 | Fenix_NBK_ | wizard123: that is: when you type ctrl+a in russian, does it select all the text? |
| 11:41.24 | Fenix_NBK_ | also what does "phonetic" means? |
| 11:41.37 | wizard123 | phonetic variant. |
| 11:41.47 | Fenix_NBK_ | i dunno what it means... |
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| 11:41.56 | bioticpro | wizard123: yeah, I will use it, as soon as I figure how to configure xorg to do this |
| 11:42.02 | Fenix_NBK_ | I have standard russian kbd |
| 11:42.13 | wizard123 | i don't have russina keyboard, but sometimes i need to write russian |
| 11:42.27 | wizard123 | so i configured 'phonetic keyboard' |
| 11:42.45 | Fenix_NBK_ | does your russian "A" is on english letter "A" or on english letter "F" ? |
| 11:42.53 | wizard123 | when i press 'f' i get 'ф' |
| 11:43.15 | wizard123 | russian a is on a, russian b is on b |
| 11:43.27 | Fenix_NBK_ | hmmm..... strange keyboard.... |
| 11:43.46 | wizard123 | hehe |
| 11:43.46 | Fenix_NBK_ | basically your have standard english keyboard with russian software ? |
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| 11:44.15 | wizard123 | actually i have english keyboard with polish software and sometimes i need to write something in russian |
| 11:44.19 | wizard123 | :) |
| 11:44.25 | Fenix_NBK_ | standard russian keyboard have russian "A" on english "F". |
| 11:44.46 | wizard123 | since i've never used standard russina keyboards 'phonetic' variant is better for me |
| 11:44.59 | wizard123 | cuz when i type 'da' i get 'да' |
| 11:45.05 | wizard123 | :) |
| 11:45.27 | Fenix_NBK_ | ok - but it doesnt solve the KDE problem. |
| 11:45.49 | wizard123 | i know.. |
| 11:45.52 | Fenix_NBK_ | When I type ctrl+a on russian keyboard it DOES NOT slect the text. |
| 11:46.06 | wizard123 | hmm.. |
| 11:46.11 | Fenix_NBK_ | the same goes for all shortcuts, all KDE software and all KDE versions !!! |
| 11:46.24 | wizard123 | and a is where f is on english keyboard? |
| 11:46.28 | Fenix_NBK_ | makes it impossible to edit text in Russian |
| 11:46.51 | Fenix_NBK_ | "F" in English keyboard is under letter "R". |
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| 11:47.06 | Fenix_NBK_ | QWERTY is the eng standard |
| 11:47.12 | wizard123 | and where is english a ? |
| 11:47.20 | Fenix_NBK_ | under "Q". |
| 11:47.36 | wizard123 | yes, but on your keyboard? |
| 11:47.56 | wizard123 | i'll look for a photo of your keyboard :D |
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| 11:48.03 | Fenix_NBK_ | on my keyboard the english is standard eng. But Russian has Russian standards. |
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| 11:49.11 | wizard123 | this: ? |
| 11:49.13 | wizard123 | http://www.sussex.ac.uk/its/facilities/pc/keyboards/russian.gif |
| 11:49.24 | Fenix_NBK_ | yes |
| 11:49.58 | wizard123 | ca you read that: русский |
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| 11:50.19 | Fenix_NBK_ | so the problem is when I use russian, all KDE shortcuts refuse to work. |
| 11:50.34 | wizard123 | this is prolly xkb issue |
| 11:50.40 | Fenix_NBK_ | how to solve? |
| 11:50.47 | wizard123 | i'm not sure |
| 11:50.52 | Fenix_NBK_ | I have opened a bug in KDE. |
| 11:50.58 | Fenix_NBK_ | but I want more info. |
| 11:51.06 | Fenix_NBK_ | because my bug is inaccurate. |
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| 11:51.20 | Fenix_NBK_ | http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=133435 |
| 11:51.41 | wizard123 | Fenix_NBK_: your right |
| 11:51.46 | wizard123 | it does not work! |
| 11:51.59 | eNTi|notebook | how do i make kmplayer use my sound settings from kde? i want to watch a movie with my 2nd soundcard (usb headset), but i don't know how to configure the system. |
| 11:53.12 | wizard123 | Fenix_NBK_: do you use kxkb? |
| 11:53.19 | Fenix_NBK_ | wizard123: what would you recommend me? |
| 11:53.40 | Fenix_NBK_ | what is kxbd? |
| 11:54.45 | wizard123 | kxkb is that small aplet on panel allowing to change keyboard layouts by clicking |
| 11:55.06 | Fenix_NBK_ | i know. |
| 11:55.14 | Fenix_NBK_ | it is enabled when you add languages |
| 11:55.24 | wizard123 | yes, so you use it |
| 11:55.36 | Fenix_NBK_ | it is added automatically, when you add any language |
| 11:55.39 | Fenix_NBK_ | yes |
| 11:55.57 | Fenix_NBK_ | looks like country flag. right? |
| 11:56.03 | wizard123 | yes |
| 11:56.13 | Fenix_NBK_ | i use it |
| 11:56.50 | wizard123 | Fenix_NBK_: i have two possible solutions for you |
| 11:57.10 | wizard123 | 1: look if somebody has simmilar problems |
| 11:57.36 | wizard123 | 2: open shortcuts configuration and redefine all (nasty work) |
| 11:58.28 | Fenix_NBK_ | wizard123: I though about the second. a: it failed b: I have more than 2 languages I work with |
| 11:58.39 | Fenix_NBK_ | KDE allows for just 2 shortcuts to each action. |
| 11:58.40 | wizard123 | дамн |
| 11:58.44 | wizard123 | i mean damn |
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| 11:59.46 | wizard123 | Fenix_NBK_: you may also check scim |
| 11:59.54 | Fenix_NBK_ | what is scim ? |
| 12:00.02 | wizard123 | it supports japanese, korea, chinese |
| 12:00.09 | wizard123 | maybe cyrilic too |
| 12:00.41 | wizard123 | http://www.scim-im.org/ |
| 12:02.24 | Fenix_NBK_ | I'll look at it. But it's a shame that KDE doesnt offer a fix out of the box. |
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| 12:04.00 | wizard123 | Fenix_NBK_: you may also browse some forum or wikis in russian |
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| 12:04.40 | Fenix_NBK_ | I dunno any KDE/Linux-related forums in Russian |
| 12:05.22 | Fenix_NBK_ | but will look .... |
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| 12:05.56 | Fenix_NBK_ | it's strange this chat and both SUSE and mandriva have no population at all. |
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| 12:06.40 | floyd_n_milan | can some suggest me a good system log viewer please? and im not talking about tail -f |
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| 12:07.34 | wizard123 | floyd_n_milan: i use less mostly.. it is more advanced than tail. but i think it is not what are you looking for ;) |
| 12:07.58 | floyd_n_milan | wizard123, nah, i need a KDE based GUI.. i just found ksystemlog |
| 12:08.13 | floyd_n_milan | wizard123, i use tail and less too.. |
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| 12:10.53 | Fenix_NBK_ | wizard123: thx for trying to help |
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| 12:12.23 | wizard123 | your welcome |
| 12:12.37 | floyd_n_milan | how do change the numlock settings? there used to be a Keyboard module under Peripherals in Control Centre right? |
| 12:13.09 | wizard123 | floyd_n_milan: it is still where it was for years ;) |
| 12:13.23 | floyd_n_milan | wizard123, well its disappeared on my system now :s |
| 12:13.53 | wizard123 | pheripherals -> keyboard |
| 12:14.03 | floyd_n_milan | yeah, its not there |
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| 12:14.09 | wizard123 | :o |
| 12:14.09 | Platyna | Hello. |
| 12:14.17 | wizard123 | hi Platyna |
| 12:14.30 | floyd_n_milan | Display, Joystick, Mouse, OBEX Devices, Printers, Storage Media |
| 12:14.34 | Platyna | Why when I chose "Information list" in my view mode, I don't have directories on the beggining? |
| 12:14.36 | floyd_n_milan | no Keyboard :s |
| 12:14.46 | Platyna | It is supposed to be like that or it is some kind annoying bug? |
| 12:15.57 | wizard123 | Platyna: there is something like 'list directories at first' |
| 12:16.04 | Platyna | wizard123: Where? |
| 12:16.16 | Platyna | It was in view but it seems it has changed... |
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| 12:16.19 | floyd_n_milan | it is not implemented as a separate module is it? |
| 12:16.28 | wizard123 | floyd_n_milan: i don't know |
| 12:16.31 | Platyna | Anyway in all other view modes I have directories on the beggining. |
| 12:16.34 | floyd_n_milan | hmm |
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| 12:17.23 | wizard123 | damn.. Platyna i swear i've seen it somewhere ;) |
| 12:17.36 | Platyna | I know about that option. ;) |
| 12:17.37 | wizard123 | floyd_n_milan: it should be in kdebase |
| 12:17.44 | Platyna | But I have no hell idea where is it now. |
| 12:17.52 | floyd_n_milan | or.. kcontrol hmmm |
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| 12:18.53 | floyd_n_milan | kdebase isn't installed :s |
| 12:19.23 | floyd_n_milan | oh yeah right |
| 12:19.46 | Platyna | It is so damn annoying... |
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| 12:20.42 | floyd_n_milan | do i need kxkb for that module to be available? |
| 12:20.44 | Platyna | And that documentation is useless. |
| 12:21.13 | wizard123 | Platyna: like allways |
| 12:21.16 | Platyna | Thanks for telling me every UNIX user has his own home directory (which is actually a bullshit), I would never get on that. |
| 12:21.17 | floyd_n_milan | ok emerging.. |
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| 12:24.15 | wizard123 | floyd_n_milan: aaa-haaa! |
| 12:24.25 | wizard123 | did you use kdebase-meta? |
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| 12:24.38 | Platyna | So, where is that "directories on the beggining option"? |
| 12:24.42 | floyd_n_milan | wizard123, no.. i selected the packages manually |
| 12:24.54 | floyd_n_milan | right |
| 12:24.56 | floyd_n_milan | now there it is! |
| 12:24.59 | floyd_n_milan | kxkb was missing |
| 12:25.18 | wizard123 | niach niach niach |
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| 12:26.49 | wizard123 | damn! i screwed keyboard shortcuts! |
| 12:26.52 | wizard123 | i'm dead |
| 12:27.35 | wizard123 | ;( |
| 12:27.58 | omeow | How do I tell KDE to use "detailed view" for all my file dialogs? |
| 12:27.59 | tuxick | what's the name of the little icon in top right of konqueror? that's one of the icons i lost after upgrading on gentoo |
| 12:28.07 | tuxick | probably need to adjust some path |
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| 12:31.59 | Platyna | Wrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr,,, |
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| 12:34.53 | hays | how do I configure Alt-Tab to work in kde |
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| 12:37.58 | Fish-Face | I'm trying to use kdevelop to create a kicker applet, but when I try to run the compiled applet that it gives you as a template, I get the following error: |
| 12:38.06 | Fish-Face | kicker: WARNING: cannot open applet: because of Library files for ".la" not found in paths. |
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| 12:38.53 | tobstarr | hi |
| 12:38.56 | Fish-Face | A quick google reveals that the ".la" should be "appletname.la", so something obviously isn't being told the name of the applet |
| 12:39.15 | wizard123 | hi tobstarr |
| 12:39.38 | tobstarr | wizard123: domehow i fixed the problem |
| 12:39.39 | wizard123 | Fish-Face: strange.. la are.. textfiles iirc :/ |
| 12:39.48 | Fish-Face | wizard123, correct |
| 12:39.55 | wizard123 | tobstarr: which ;) ? |
| 12:40.08 | tobstarr | with the not working beyboard |
| 12:40.10 | tobstarr | keyboard |
| 12:40.19 | hays | I want to set up Alt-Tab as a keyboard shortcut to switch windows.. can this be done in KDE |
| 12:40.27 | Fish-Face | wizard123, it's where it's supposed to be, and that, along with the message, would indicate that kicker, or appletproxy, or whatever, is not being given the name of the .la file |
| 12:40.33 | Platyna | WTF is with that KDE now? |
| 12:40.35 | Platyna | :/ |
| 12:40.41 | Fish-Face | Or the name of the applet, from which it might derive the .la filename. |
| 12:40.44 | Platyna | That option seems to be removed. |
| 12:41.03 | tobstarr | hays: isn't that the default |
| 12:41.05 | tobstarr | ??? |
| 12:41.12 | wizard123 | Platyna: i don't know.. my keyboard shortcuts does not work as they did 10 minutes ago |
| 12:41.13 | hays | tobstarr: not here |
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| 12:41.51 | tobstarr | you can define the options in kcontrol |
| 12:41.56 | Fish-Face | Further, the Add Panel Applet doesn't show the applet, but the .desktop file is in /usr/kde/share/apps/kicker/applets |
| 12:42.07 | wizard123 | hays: select language/region -> keyboard shortcuts |
| 12:42.13 | wizard123 | hays: select kde default |
| 12:42.27 | wizard123 | hays: thank you for your cooperation |
| 12:42.33 | tobstarr | i am playing around with dcop |
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| 12:42.56 | hays | wizard123: language/region where? |
| 12:43.18 | wizard123 | in kcontrol |
| 12:43.37 | Platyna | wizard123: Time to switch back to Gnome. |
| 12:43.42 | hays | oh there it is.. its called "Regional and Accessibility" here |
| 12:43.45 | wizard123 | baaaaaaaaaahhhh! damn stoopid linux! |
| 12:43.52 | wizard123 | taime to switch back to freebsd |
| 12:43.57 | wizard123 | Platyna: gnome is evil |
| 12:44.01 | Platyna | Oh wait...Gnome is more fucked up. |
| 12:45.03 | tobstarr | when i use the dcop client on the command line: what is the format of lists? |
| 12:45.14 | hays | time to switch to xfce.. oh wait. :) |
| 12:46.13 | wizard123 | do you know any linux distro with freebsd ports :P ? |
| 12:46.30 | hays | why? |
| 12:46.46 | wizard123 | cuz i need linux kernel and easy software management |
| 12:47.06 | hays | find the right distro |
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| 12:47.29 | hays | what do you find difficult |
| 12:47.38 | wizard123 | upgrading |
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| 12:48.02 | hays | upgradingn is easy on many linux distros |
| 12:48.03 | wizard123 | gentoo just refused to buil glibc |
| 12:48.13 | tobstarr | wizard123: you are using gentoo? |
| 12:48.21 | wizard123 | yeah.. unfortunately |
| 12:48.25 | hays | works here. hmm. |
| 12:48.31 | hays | you probably need gcc 4.1 |
| 12:48.31 | tobstarr | i used that for nearly 2 years |
| 12:48.34 | wizard123 | i hate it |
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| 12:48.44 | hays | they are in the middle of upgrading gcc at the moment |
| 12:48.50 | tobstarr | i hated it too |
| 12:48.59 | tobstarr | that's why i switched to kubuntu |
| 12:49.10 | wizard123 | rotfl, !deb, !rpm |
| 12:49.12 | hays | try a different distro, maybe debian. |
| 12:49.18 | wizard123 | noooooooooooo |
| 12:49.23 | SonicChao | Lol... |
| 12:49.29 | tobstarr | mainly because of the upgrading thing |
| 12:49.45 | SonicChao | what distro are you currently using? |
| 12:49.54 | hays | so you want easy upgrading but no package management? |
| 12:50.09 | wizard123 | i give you small list of distros which i hate: gentoo, debian (derivatives too) red hat (derivatives too) |
| 12:50.25 | tobstarr | why do you hate debian? |
| 12:50.26 | wizard123 | hays: i want sytem easy like freebsd |
| 12:50.28 | hays | I think the issues you are having with gentoo might be due to gcc 4.1 recently being added to portage. what gcc do you have |
| 12:50.33 | wizard123 | tobstarr: historical reasons |
| 12:50.39 | tobstarr | hehe |
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| 12:50.44 | tobstarr | kubuntu is great |
| 12:50.49 | wizard123 | hays: 3.x.x |
| 12:51.05 | hays | wizard123: upgrade your toolchain to gcc 4 |
| 12:51.29 | wizard123 | and than rebuild whole system, no thanks |
| 12:51.44 | tobstarr | hehe |
| 12:51.54 | hays | wizard123: then mask glibc |
| 12:52.08 | SonicChao | Kubuntu is great....=p |
| 12:52.13 | wizard123 | :P |
| 12:52.17 | wizard123 | i hate debs |
| 12:52.23 | SonicChao | >>; |
| 12:52.34 | hays | you need to mask glibc >= 2.4 |
| 12:52.52 | wizard123 | hays: i'll try to fix it later |
| 12:53.04 | wizard123 | now i'm out of power |
| 12:53.09 | hays | but I think it would be unwise to fight going to gcc 4.x |
| 12:53.11 | SonicChao | I need easy pkg management, because i'm too dumb to compile |
| 12:53.38 | hays | gentoo is for early adopters |
| 12:53.50 | wizard123 | SonicChao: i downloaded kubuntu once. wanted to use it on my lappy |
| 12:53.51 | hays | this can sometimes be a pain in the butt |
| 12:54.11 | wizard123 | SonicChao: id didn't even boot, so i thown cd throug window |
| 12:54.13 | wizard123 | (really!) |
| 12:54.20 | wizard123 | s/it/id |
| 12:54.26 | wizard123 | arrrrrr |
| 12:54.29 | SonicChao | wizard123: thats funny, i use it on my lappy right now |
| 12:54.44 | wizard123 | yesterday i installed netbsd |
| 12:54.51 | wizard123 | acpi issues.... |
| 12:55.25 | wizard123 | 2 days ago i downloaded openbsd livecd.. hangup after loading kernel |
| 12:55.33 | wizard123 | windows works a snail |
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| 12:55.55 | wizard123 | i can't find os that will run on my box |
| 12:55.55 | SonicChao | D= |
| 12:56.15 | SonicChao | then get a new box |
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| 12:56.20 | wizard123 | i wanted to say windows works like a snail |
| 12:56.26 | wizard123 | SonicChao: i don't have cash |
| 12:56.32 | SonicChao | V.V |
| 12:56.38 | wizard123 | and that is pretty damn fast amd64 |
| 12:57.00 | hays | fvwm2 is fast :) |
| 12:57.55 | wizard123 | hays: but it is not an os :) |
| 12:58.17 | wizard123 | if only freebsd would support acpi.. |
| 12:58.22 | wizard123 | ;( |
| 12:58.42 | hays | well I don't think linux per se is slow |
| 12:58.50 | hays | its probably the applications you are running |
| 13:02.56 | wizard123 | hays: linux is pretty fast |
| 13:03.16 | wizard123 | yesterday one of my friends gave me a link to solaris dvd xD |
| 13:03.21 | wizard123 | and said: install this |
| 13:03.30 | wizard123 | i said: on lappy? |
| 13:03.41 | wizard123 | he: you will be tru g33k |
| 13:04.54 | Fish-Face | Urg |
| 13:05.31 | Fish-Face | Is there a way to check the output the kicker process is producing? |
| 13:05.39 | wizard123 | yes |
| 13:05.42 | Fish-Face | I want to steal its stdout/stderr |
| 13:05.46 | Fish-Face | or check logs or something |
| 13:05.49 | wizard123 | run it from xterm |
| 13:06.09 | Fish-Face | Right... but how can I get it close properly and restart at my command... |
| 13:06.25 | Fish-Face | oh, it doesn't autorestart |
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| 13:06.59 | Fish-Face | But.. it doesn't appear to be producing output. Damn. |
| 13:08.24 | Fish-Face | :/ |
| 13:08.39 | wizard123 | :/ |
| 13:08.54 | Fish-Face | This is really confusing... Noone else appears to have had this error, or at least, if they have, google hasn't indexed it |
| 13:10.10 | wizard123 | Fish-Face: what problem exactly? |
| 13:10.33 | Fish-Face | I'm trying to compile and run the default, template applet you get in KDevelop when you select Kicker Applet |
| 13:10.58 | Fish-Face | But when I try to run the applet (with appletproxy /path/to/applet.desktop) I get an error: |
| 13:11.07 | Fish-Face | kicker: WARNING: cannot open applet: because of Library files for ".la" not found in paths. |
| 13:11.38 | Fish-Face | Where it says, ".la" it should be saying "appletname.la" |
| 13:11.56 | Fish-Face | So whatever needs to find the .la is not being told the name of it. |
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| 13:12.00 | wizard123 | Fish-Face: maybe this applet is wrong ? |
| 13:12.28 | Fish-Face | Well, it could be, but I don't see how. Firstly, because it's the template-applet, so it shouldn't have any problems |
| 13:12.40 | Fish-Face | Secondly, because the code itself doesn't have anything to do with finding the .la file. |
| 13:12.47 | wizard123 | i don't use kdevelop so i cant tell you if it works for me |
| 13:13.03 | Fish-Face | The .desktop file has the name it should be looking for |
| 13:13.10 | Fish-Face | but something is evidently going wrong :) |
| 13:13.18 | wizard123 | :P |
| 13:13.26 | wizard123 | i need some relax |
| 13:13.30 | Fish-Face | Heh |
| 13:13.36 | Fish-Face | Me too |
| 13:13.44 | Fish-Face | I might go shoot some people and come back later |
| 13:13.54 | wizard123 | i jsut play guitar |
| 13:14.03 | Fish-Face | :P |
| 13:14.06 | wizard123 | it is not prohibited |
| 13:14.41 | wizard123 | i was training some song yesterday.. |
| 13:14.52 | wizard123 | i can't remember which.. |
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| 13:22.53 | tuxick | yay, kmail segfaulted during flushing trash |
| 13:23.00 | tuxick | only 3000 mails there |
| 13:23.20 | tuxick | looks like someone forgot an if (p) |
| 13:24.42 | wizard123 | tuxick: :D |
| 13:26.19 | wizard123 | normali performed kewl blues with lots of slides, hameron and pulloffs. now i feel better and i can visit distrowatch |
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| 13:34.55 | Andaluz | hey, anyone know how to change the K Menu icon? |
| 13:35.01 | thiago | it's in the faq |
| 13:35.28 | thiago | apt: k menu |
| 13:35.35 | thiago | apt: hello? |
| 13:35.37 | apt | Howdy Bub |
| 13:35.46 | thiago | apt: tell #kde about k-menu |
| 13:35.56 | thiago | apt: tell Andaluz about k-menu |
| 13:36.00 | airon | Hi, have anybody tried to upload a picture to flickr today using konqueror or digikam? It used it work, but today it doesn't. Firefox does. I don't know if it's a local problem or a change in flickr that makes konqueror to fail doing the upload |
| 13:36.07 | Andaluz | lol |
| 13:36.07 | thiago | dammit, I don't know how to work the bot |
| 13:36.18 | thiago | anyways, it's in the FAQ |
| 13:36.21 | Andaluz | apt: get install kubuntu-desktop |
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| 13:38.42 | wizard123 | thiago: look at this |
| 13:38.48 | wizard123 | apt: xwizard |
| 13:38.50 | apt | somebody said xwizard was one of the most powerfull persons on Earth. He has the power of The Great Old Ones and has The Tail of Cthulhu. I fear xwizard! |
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| 13:38.58 | thiago | apt: kmenu |
| 13:39.01 | apt | Instructions for changing the K menu icon: http://docs.kde.org/development/en/kdebase/faq/panel.html#id2551958 . Alternatively, use kbfx |
| 13:39.01 | Andaluz | lol |
| 13:39.11 | wizard123 | !kbfx |
| 13:39.15 | wizard123 | it sux! |
| 13:39.17 | thiago | there you go, thanks |
| 13:39.20 | Andaluz | ty =) |
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| 13:40.08 | Andaluz | well, thanks again for the help, I'm going to go sleep now T_T |
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| 13:47.19 | wizard123 | arrr! |
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| 13:48.03 | wizard123 | somebody have just married and now he with all the guests are riding around and honking.. |
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| 13:54.45 | Fish-Face | Enough shooting |
| 13:54.57 | Fish-Face | Anyone joined who knows much about kdevelop/kicker applets? |
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| 13:56.14 | wizard123 | Fish-Face: i found nothing |
| 13:56.32 | wizard123 | Fish-Face: i'm still playing ;) |
| 13:56.39 | Fish-Face | :P |
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| 13:59.30 | wizard123 | ok, now i'm ready to stand face to face with distro watch |
| 14:00.18 | Fish-Face | :O |
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| 14:01.05 | wizard123 | Fish-Face: all distros presented there are crap :D |
| 14:01.15 | Fish-Face | Oh noes! |
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| 14:01.42 | wizard123 | argh.. |
| 14:01.42 | Fish-Face | Hmm... I see Ubuntu and Debian there... |
| 14:02.17 | sugarat | Does anyone know why when I login to KDE the startup sound blares out all looud and distorted, but when I play it in control panel-> system notifications it sounds fine |
| 14:02.24 | wizard123 | those are first positions on my 'never ever install' list |
| 14:02.47 | Fish-Face | Debian is teh rock! |
| 14:02.56 | PhilRod | yay, distro wars(!) |
| 14:03.05 | wizard123 | sugarat: kmix restores mixer settings after playing intro |
| 14:03.18 | Fish-Face | PhilRod, hell yes |
| 14:03.27 | sugarat | Wizard123: What can be done? |
| 14:03.30 | Theory | In the blue corner, weighing in at 15 gigabytes we have Debian Sid... |
| 14:03.41 | wizard123 | sugarat: linux or bsd? |
| 14:03.46 | sugarat | Linux slack |
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| 14:03.52 | wizard123 | Slack! |
| 14:03.54 | wizard123 | man! |
| 14:03.58 | Fish-Face | In the red corner, weighing in at ***OVERFLOW ERROR*** we have red hat |
| 14:03.59 | wizard123 | :D |
| 14:04.07 | wizard123 | i forgot about slack! |
| 14:04.09 | sugarat | Would it not make more sense for kmix to kick in as soon as you login? |
| 14:04.10 | wizard123 | :D |
| 14:04.13 | sugarat | Slack is the business |
| 14:04.26 | wizard123 | sugarat: man, try alsamixer |
| 14:04.32 | wizard123 | set values |
| 14:04.41 | wizard123 | and than alsactl store |
| 14:04.47 | wizard123 | ;) |
| 14:04.55 | wizard123 | or use kmix, and than alsactl store |
| 14:05.02 | sugarat | okay, I've run the mixer, I'll try the alsactl store |
| 14:05.53 | sugarat | I'll give it a whirl... |
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| 14:33.33 | Fish-Face | Ooh |
| 14:33.38 | Fish-Face | Intriguing |
| 14:33.40 | Fish-Face | The error kicker spits at me as the same error it gives if you tell it to load some bogus file |
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| 14:35.33 | yanis | how can I view the backround image that a website uses in Konqueror? |
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| 14:43.19 | Fish-Face | Aharrr |
| 14:43.24 | Fish-Face | It works if you put in prefix /usr |
| 14:43.40 | Fish-Face | so there's some shenanigans going on with the default prefix of /usr/local/kde |
| 14:45.41 | wizard123 | :) |
| 14:45.49 | wizard123 | link it to /usr ;) |
| 14:45.53 | Fish-Face | hehe |
| 14:46.38 | wizard123 | i'll wait for slamd64 11 :) |
| 14:46.45 | wizard123 | then i'll get rid of gentoo |
| 14:46.50 | wizard123 | and install slack ;) |
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| 14:52.02 | neinod | hi, I'm using Gentoo, and I'm having a problem with sound in KDE 3.5. I am using ALSA with my Intel HDA card. When I use those commandline music players like madplay, it plays music nicely. But when I try to play sound in KDE, I get no errors, and no sound plays. Can anyone help? |
| 14:52.31 | wizard123 | neinod: did you install artsd? |
| 14:52.44 | lostson | neinod: did you install kde with arts ? |
| 14:52.49 | lostson | heh whopps |
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| 14:53.14 | wizard123 | lostson: at least we said the same, not different things ;) |
| 14:53.16 | neinod | I added USE="arts alsa" in the gentoo USE flags |
| 14:53.26 | neinod | when building KDE |
| 14:53.28 | wizard123 | but did you install arts? |
| 14:53.44 | neinod | I don't know |
| 14:53.48 | wizard123 | :o |
| 14:53.52 | wizard123 | so check! |
| 14:53.57 | neinod | gentoo does this automatically normally :-P |
| 14:54.14 | wizard123 | gentoo does something automatically? |
| 14:54.39 | neinod | well artsd is running when ps aux | grep arts |
| 14:54.44 | wizard123 | hmm |
| 14:54.51 | wizard123 | what errors appeares? |
| 14:54.55 | neinod | none |
| 14:55.09 | wizard123 | check mizers (silly, i know) |
| 14:55.15 | wizard123 | mixers even |
| 14:55.44 | neinod | they have the channels on and unmuted |
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| 14:56.16 | neinod | Using madplay to play an mp3 works btw |
| 14:56.31 | neinod | just not KDE :x |
| 14:56.37 | lostson | what sounds are you looking to play in kde are u using amarok or what ? |
| 14:56.45 | wizard123 | ugh |
| 14:56.56 | neinod | i'm using "Test sound" in the control center |
| 14:57.05 | wizard123 | that does not work for me too :S |
| 14:57.07 | neinod | sound&multimedia->sound system |
| 14:57.28 | wizard123 | nooooooooo! i'm gonna shoot myself. |
| 14:57.44 | neinod | I also tried XMMS, which just keeps asking me to open a file when I press "Play" |
| 14:57.52 | wizard123 | o_O |
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| 15:05.24 | neinod | here |
| 15:05.30 | neinod | this guy seems to have the same problem: http://www.kde-forum.org/thread.php?threadid=14890 |
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| 15:06.15 | PhilRod | ~artstr |
| 15:06.19 | apt | You can find some tips on diagnosing sound-related problems at http://docs.kde.org/development/en/kdebase/faq/sound.html |
| 15:06.22 | PhilRod | neinod: did you try those suggestions? |
| 15:06.57 | neinod | yes |
| 15:06.58 | neinod | that works |
| 15:07.09 | neinod | artsdsp -m madplay Halo.mp3, plays the song |
| 15:07.40 | neinod | soo.. what gives? |
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| 15:09.37 | PhilRod | does artsplay work? |
| 15:10.54 | TeaSea | I have a 100% guaranteed solution to your aRTs problems! |
| 15:10.58 | TeaSea | Disable it. It's awful. |
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| 15:12.53 | sugarat | Doesnt KDE require arts? |
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| 15:13.08 | TeaSea | sugarat: To compile yes. |
| 15:13.14 | TeaSea | But there's nothing at all to stop you disabling it. |
| 15:13.21 | sugarat | It will just ise ALSA directly? |
| 15:13.36 | sugarat | ise=use |
| 15:13.40 | TeaSea | You just disable the "Sound system", and configure KDE to use an external player like alsaplayer. |
| 15:13.51 | neinod | artsplay works yes |
| 15:14.01 | sugarat | Interesting...okay ta. |
| 15:14.02 | TeaSea | Hell, most cards have hardware mixing nowadays anyway, and if not there's always dmix on ALSA, that works well enough. |
| 15:14.17 | sugarat | not sure if I've got a alsaplayer binary |
| 15:14.29 | TeaSea | It's not part of any core alsa package. |
| 15:14.31 | TeaSea | It's seperate. |
| 15:14.57 | sugarat | ah yeah. Just found it. I'll give it a whirl :-) |
| 15:15.03 | TeaSea | Just emerge it or whatever the devil it is you kids do :P |
| 15:15.18 | TeaSea | sugarat: You might want to change the default interface to "text" in the config. |
| 15:15.27 | sugarat | ah ok |
| 15:15.48 | TeaSea | Or alternatively tell kde to run it as "alsaplayer -i text" |
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| 15:17.42 | sugarat | compiling it now... |
| 15:17.59 | sugarat | I've disabled the sound system in the control panel |
| 15:18.19 | TeaSea | You may want to specify things to use dmix |
| 15:18.28 | TeaSea | dmix is a software mixing thing on ALSA. |
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| 15:19.28 | sugarat | alsaplayer -i text on its own segfaults in the konsole. is this right?? |
| 15:19.45 | XVampireX | alsa can use dmix nowadays |
| 15:19.52 | TeaSea | No |
| 15:19.54 | XVampireX | without having to enable it |
| 15:19.56 | TeaSea | That shouldn't happen. |
| 15:19.59 | TeaSea | XVampireX: Ah k. |
| 15:20.12 | TeaSea | Wait does here as well. |
| 15:20.35 | sugarat | cool |
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| 15:20.53 | TeaSea | sugarat: Okay just run alsaplayer with a file as an argument. |
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| 15:21.06 | TeaSea | alsaplayer Billy\ Ocean\ -\ Red\ Light\ Spells\ Danger.mp3 |
| 15:21.08 | TeaSea | Being one example. |
| 15:21.16 | neinod | I think I know why arts wasn't working properly.. |
| 15:21.30 | neinod | it wasn't compiled with libvorbis support |
| 15:22.55 | neinod | yep works now |
| 15:24.25 | sugarat | TeaSea: Okay nice one |
| 15:25.55 | sugarat | so I'm telling it to use an external player in system notifications, but nothing happens with alsaplayer -i text, and if I just use alsaplayer I get the gtk interface. hmm, |
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| 15:31.17 | sugarat | TeaSea: any joy? |
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| 15:32.34 | daum | hey guys when i view pdfs using kghostview it shows the pdf then it disappears...and leave s awhite screen for pdfs...anyone know whats wrong? |
| 15:33.35 | yanis | can I change that red pic that is displayed when I block an image in web page in konqueror? |
| 15:33.35 | TeaSea | sugarat: Yeah what I said before. |
| 15:33.39 | TeaSea | Alter it in the config. |
| 15:33.45 | TeaSea | ~/.alsaplayer/config |
| 15:33.51 | TeaSea | Change default interface to text |
| 15:33.55 | lgsobalvarro | daum: and you can open it whitout problems in kpdf? |
| 15:34.17 | daum | hm let me see |
| 15:35.17 | sugarat | hmm.... silence |
| 15:35.58 | daum | yep |
| 15:36.22 | sugarat | alsaplayer file.mp3 now works on the command line with the text interface. System notifications results in silence when just playing through 'alaplayer |
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| 15:38.13 | TeaSea | sugarat: This is a huge case of "wfm" |
| 15:38.25 | daum | lgsobalvarro, yea it opens in kpdf not kghostview |
| 15:39.05 | TeaSea | sugarat: Take the actual full filename and check it works with alsaplayer on the command line. |
| 15:39.19 | lgsobalvarro | daum: that pdf have set security or something? |
| 15:39.21 | sugarat | yep, have. plays fine |
| 15:39.29 | daum | lgsobalvarro, i don't think so |
| 15:39.37 | daum | lgsobalvarro, its just a rebate form |
| 15:39.39 | daum | lol |
| 15:39.42 | sugarat | so confused as to why it doesnt play in the system notifications window |
| 15:39.51 | TeaSea | sugarat: You're just putting "alsaplayer" as it, right? |
| 15:39.59 | sugarat | yah |
| 15:40.11 | TeaSea | mm |
| 15:40.36 | TeaSea | Strange,. |
| 15:41.56 | lgsobalvarro | daum: kghostview have some limitations with the pdf files. I recomend you use for all PDF files kpdf |
| 15:42.14 | daum | lgsobalvarro, alright sounds good |
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| 15:43.34 | sugarat | Ok I have no idea why but i restarted the control centre and it seems to work now. Go figure |
| 15:43.43 | sugarat | TeaSea: Nice one. Arts does indeed suck |
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| 15:46.12 | TeaSea | Word |
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| 15:54.43 | _knoppix | hello |
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| 15:54.48 | _knoppix | sup? |
| 15:54.55 | lostson | nada |
| 15:55.05 | _knoppix | oh hello |
| 15:55.19 | _knoppix | who are you |
| 15:55.23 | _knoppix | ? |
| 15:56.00 | freezer003 | hello |
| 15:56.11 | PhilRod | and doesn't make them set a name |
| 15:56.25 | freezer003 | ok I've changed a name |
| 15:56.34 | freezer003 | it's ok now ? |
| 15:56.42 | PhilRod | yeah |
| 15:56.46 | freezer003 | :) |
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| 16:00.15 | neinod | I want to use the crystal KDE window decoration, so I tried emerge x11-themes/crystal, but it is not showing up in the control center -> window decorations ? |
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| 16:00.52 | PhilRod | neinod: try "kbuildsycoca" then try again |
| 16:00.57 | PhilRod | or try #gentoo-kde |
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| 16:09.38 | rushfan | Why cant the K Printing Manager connect to CUPS? |
| 16:09.40 | rushfan | "Connection to CUPS server failed. Check that the CUPS server is correctly installed and running. Error: connection refused." |
| 16:09.48 | rushfan | I just got that message and I wasn't getting it before. |
| 16:13.01 | PhilRod | rushfan: Check that the CUPS server is correctly installed and running |
| 16:13.03 | islamguidedotcom | is there a way to contravene the gripe that when u enable select to copy feature and u want to replace a link in a browser |
| 16:13.16 | rushfan | PhilRod: It is |
| 16:13.35 | rushfan | Gggrrrrrrrr. I just want to print to my network printer and this is becoming an extremely difficult experience |
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| 16:14.07 | Pinaraf | rushfan: that's not a KDE problem but a CUPS problem |
| 16:14.18 | Pinaraf | what distrib are you using ? |
| 16:14.30 | rushfan | Gentoo |
| 16:15.24 | rushfan | I know its not KDEs problem but Im losing my patience. And I don't see why KPrintManager wont connect to CUPS all of a sudden. It worked fine before :| |
| 16:16.17 | PhilRod | islamguidedotcom: middle click on the body of the HTML page? click the "clear" button then middle click on the location bar? |
| 16:16.25 | rushfan | So what this is a problem with cups? |
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| 16:16.55 | islamguidedotcom | PhilRod, ya that's wad i did but what do u do in FF |
| 16:17.07 | PhilRod | islamguidedotcom: no idea. Ask in #firefox |
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| 16:17.35 | islamguidedotcom | i still think they should provide a smart mechanism to know when u're wanting to replace a text and disable it temporarily |
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| 16:18.57 | PhilRod | islamguidedotcom: I don't understand what you mean. Are you sure it's a KDE issue? |
| 16:19.23 | islamguidedotcom | PhilRod, yes it's klipper's built in auto select feature |
| 16:20.01 | islamguidedotcom | when u copy a certain text and want to put it in the url bar which already contains sth else, u have to highlight it first b4 pasting |
| 16:20.16 | islamguidedotcom | highlighting it causes what u wanna paste to be overwritten |
| 16:21.08 | PhilRod | set the "middle mouse button opens URL in selection" option in konq, then just middle click on konq to open the page in the selection |
| 16:21.21 | PhilRod | in fact that might even work in FF too |
| 16:21.36 | PhilRod | if not, you'll have to ask in #firefox |
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| 16:52.54 | pushECX|laptop | alright, how...do I start kde? I am almost a complete noob to linux, and I have debian sarge installed |
| 16:53.56 | stoned | apt-get install kde kdm && /etc/init.d/kdm start |
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| 16:54.24 | stoned | or you can just do update-alternatives --config x-session-manager and make sure kde is selected |
| 16:54.27 | stoned | and then just type startx |
| 16:54.40 | pushECX|laptop | erm....yyyyyyeah |
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| 16:54.58 | bushwoelie | hi |
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| 16:55.09 | bushwoelie | how can I make my gnome apps look more like the kde ones? |
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| 16:55.54 | stoned | bushwoelie, you could use gtk2-engines-qt |
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| 16:56.17 | stoned | it will provide you with a kcontrol module that can help you change your gtk2 apps to kde look |
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| 16:57.13 | bushwoelie | stoned: thanks, I'll try that |
| 16:57.23 | stoned | bushwoelie, which distro? |
| 16:57.27 | bushwoelie | archlinux |
| 16:57.37 | stoned | dunno nothing bout it |
| 16:57.46 | bushwoelie | installed the engine already |
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| 16:57.54 | bushwoelie | so let's have a look ;) |
| 16:58.30 | bushwoelie | great, it's in there |
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| 17:00.15 | bushwoelie | well it works |
| 17:00.16 | bushwoelie | thanks! |
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| 17:00.19 | stoned | sure |
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| 17:01.06 | bushwoelie | is there a nice place for kde themes? kde-look.org just is horrible |
| 17:01.15 | stoned | thats the only place |
| 17:01.22 | stoned | you can try installing kde-artwork packages |
| 17:01.27 | stoned | they contain some extra themes |
| 17:01.34 | stoned | why is it horrible? that site is great |
| 17:01.43 | bushwoelie | the thumbs are too small |
| 17:01.49 | bushwoelie | you can't see anything on them really |
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| 17:01.58 | bushwoelie | or i need to set my monitor to a lower resolution |
| 17:02.21 | bushwoelie | it doesn't work properly in opera too |
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| 17:04.08 | w6bi | Is anyone else having problems making kdm show the selected background? I can't seem to make it work on any of my Fedora machines. |
| 17:04.30 | halcyonCorsair | can i check a log of remote logins to krdc somewhere? |
| 17:04.38 | w6bi | On a dual-screen machine, it shows the login screen on the left, and the selected background on the right monitor :-/ |
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| 17:58.26 | jcb | hey, i really like the popup window showing when i plug in a dvd disc or a usb keyring. but it suddently stopped popping up when i plug in devices or discs. do someone know how i can enable it again? |
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| 18:00.13 | jcb | its the window that ask if you want to load your dvd disc in kaffeine or view it in a file browser and so on |
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| 18:02.02 | cbr | does KMenu have a "recent documents" option? as a submenu? |
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| 18:02.44 | shastry | cbr: you can turn it on/off in config |
| 18:03.08 | Azzco | Hi I'm having a question about kopete if it aint to much to ask... I'm trying to send a document to one of my classmates but I can't find anything related to sending files (over msn) do I need to use another client for this? |
| 18:03.36 | cbr | shastry: which file? |
| 18:03.43 | shastry | cbr: gui... |
| 18:03.53 | TeaSea | jcb: Did you do anything like upgrade KDE or something weird? |
| 18:03.54 | shastry | kcontrol-desktop-panels-appearance |
| 18:03.57 | cbr | oh.. |
| 18:04.03 | shastry | Azzco: right click user.. send file |
| 18:04.20 | Azzco | shastry, okay I'll try thx |
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| 18:05.20 | cbr | thanks shastry |
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| 18:05.23 | TeaSea | jcb: Go to Control Centre - Peripherals - Storage Media |
| 18:05.36 | Azzco | THX alot shastry :) it worked |
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| 18:05.54 | shastry | my pleasure |
| 18:06.05 | jcb | TeaSea: nope |
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| 18:06.10 | jcb | TeaSea: ok |
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| 18:07.13 | jcb | TeaSea: i see a couple of added options under Notifications |
| 18:08.01 | jcb | TeaSea: the ones that usually show up when i plug in a device |
| 18:08.57 | jcb | TeaSea: when a plug in a usb stick, it is still auto mounted. i'm just missing that pop-up window with action options |
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| 18:09.38 | jcb | hald, dbus and ivman is all running as services |
| 18:10.08 | TeaSea | jcb: Ah |
| 18:10.25 | TeaSea | Okay yeah I think the thing is you might have clicked to do auto-mount as the default option. |
| 18:10.40 | TeaSea | So it just mounts instead of asking you what to do with it. |
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| 18:11.13 | jcb | that might be the case |
| 18:11.19 | jcb | maybe i should look in ~/.kde |
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| 18:13.18 | Viper550 | Wanna see my awesome KDE desktop? |
| 18:13.37 | Viper550 | http://bay01.imagebay.com/bay.php?view=7247_purpleandgloss.png |
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| 18:15.22 | {GuNNeR} | http://www.lynucs.org/index.php?screen_type=1&screen_id=161684178444f78808acba0&m=screen |
| 18:15.30 | {GuNNeR} | there's a pic of my kde dt |
| 18:15.44 | Viper550 | you like mine? |
| 18:16.47 | {GuNNeR} | yea it's simple, not overly cluttered with a bunch of stuff |
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| 18:20.22 | cbr | in konqueror, can you make an opened picture fit the screen like in firefox? |
| 18:20.30 | Viper550 | Zoom buttons? |
| 18:20.41 | cbr | i kinda mean automatically |
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| 18:35.42 | kW___ | Hello, when resuming from standby mode, sometime the password question does appear late (so that I can click around for a while) or it does not appear at all. Does anybody know this problem? |
| 18:38.36 | dinolinux | hi, the kde 3.5 requirements list lists gphoto2 as an optional dependency, does that mean gphoto2 or libgphoto2? |
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| 18:49.25 | Freethought | hey im using kde 3.5, ubuntu dapper, I cant seem to get preview (over the desktop or in konqueror) of JPG files. if i right click a jpg than properties i dont even get the Meta data tab... |
| 18:50.13 | Freethought | everything works fine for PNG files. and if I manualy just change a jpg file to the Png extention suddenly i can see the preview... |
| 18:50.42 | Freethought | any ideas? ive been posting the question on ubuntu forums but no answer.. |
| 18:52.16 | Freethought | am?:| |
| 18:52.26 | Freethought | no one seems active here |
| 18:53.23 | TeaSea | Freethought: It's very simple |
| 18:53.28 | TeaSea | You've disabled previews for jpeg files! |
| 18:53.41 | Freethought | how come???? and how do i enable it? |
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| 18:55.11 | TeaSea | View -> Preview |
| 18:55.19 | TeaSea | Make sure images is on. |
| 18:55.44 | TeaSea | Also, you don't have crossover office installed by any chance do you? |
| 18:58.02 | Freethought | it was enable.. i do get preview for PNG.. and about the crossover i deleted the file where in ./kde/share/mimelnk/image |
| 18:58.32 | Freethought | and anyway the issue existed before i installed crossover |
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| 19:00.26 | TeaSea | Crazy. |
| 19:00.53 | Freethought | who ? why?:) |
| 19:00.59 | TeaSea | This issue. |
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| 19:01.10 | Freethought | i knowwwwwww:| |
| 19:01.17 | Freethought | its driving me crazy |
| 19:01.22 | Freethought | any idea? |
| 19:01.55 | TeaSea | The problem seems to be KDE doesn't seem to register .jpeg files as a type to display a preview for. |
| 19:02.14 | TeaSea | Go to Settings -> Configure Konqueror -> File Associations |
| 19:02.24 | TeaSea | Open up the image part and check that jpeg files are listed there. |
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| 19:03.25 | Freethought | you me in Kcontrol? |
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| 19:04.28 | Freethought | kcontrol -> kde components - > File Associations |
| 19:04.50 | Freethought | yes they are. |
| 19:05.03 | Freethought | jpeg , jpg, png |
| 19:05.06 | Freethought | all listed |
| 19:05.43 | Freethought | pjepeg allthough i have no idea what it is, listed to |
| 19:05.51 | Freethought | pjpeg * |
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| 19:06.31 | Freethought | :| |
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| 19:08.43 | _dcm | Freethought: what the hell :( |
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| 19:09.47 | Freethought | yes dcm? |
| 19:10.48 | Freethought | hell. well hell have lots of definitions.. |
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| 19:11.54 | Freethought | dcm? |
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| 19:14.08 | Ace2007__ | Hey all |
| 19:14.10 | Ace2007__ | i found a bug |
| 19:14.16 | Ace2007__ | yea i found a bug |
| 19:14.37 | Ace2007__ | make your desktop icon size something like 48x48 |
| 19:14.40 | wilfred | bugs.kde.org I believe |
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| 19:14.46 | Ace2007__ | and move the desktop icons to the right edge |
| 19:14.54 | Ace2007__ | and then make them 128x128 |
| 19:15.05 | Ace2007__ | and the desktop sort of moves to the side a bit |
| 19:15.10 | gja | hey - does anyone know what happened to the old Qt 3.3 docs? |
| 19:15.23 | gja | all the docs on the Trolltech site are for Qt 4.0 |
| 19:15.35 | Ace2007__ | I have active desktop borders set to always enabled |
| 19:16.00 | Ace2007__ | and the wallpaper repeated a bit before it went to the next desktop, its cool |
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| 19:16.13 | gja | nm, found it :p |
| 19:16.18 | Ace2007__ | is this what is supposed to happen if you have too many icons on your desktop#? |
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| 19:18.19 | Freethought | any1 with an hint for my issue ppl? |
| 19:18.33 | Freethought | 227 nicks no one talks.. |
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| 19:21.21 | wilfred | Freethough: done anything odd to your box? |
| 19:21.32 | Freethought | like what? |
| 19:21.49 | Freethought | im just a desktop user.. nothin unsual happens here :p |
| 19:21.59 | wilfred | lol. Have you always had this problem or did changing something make it happen? |
| 19:22.00 | Freethought | unusual* |
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| 19:22.37 | Freethought | well when i just install it worked fine.. but that was long time ago.. and theres no way i can recall when exactly the issue apeared |
| 19:24.16 | wilfred | so if you go to the properties of a jpg image, what do you see? |
| 19:24.58 | wilfred | have you got auto preview checked on the preview tab? |
| 19:25.47 | Freethought | the tabs: general, permissions and preview.. no meta-data as apears in PNG properties |
| 19:27.16 | wilfred | have you checked auto prevew on the preview tab? |
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| 19:28.01 | Freethought | it looks checked but this tab is grayed out ;p |
| 19:28.06 | Freethought | not in png files |
| 19:29.06 | bsdfox | I'm running kde 3.5 on freebsd, I think I set it to automatically mount cds/dvds when they're inserted, but it's not working right and I want to get rid of this behavior.. where would I go? |
| 19:29.50 | wilfred | freethought: on the general tab, hit the configure button next to jpeg image. what does it say? |
| 19:31.36 | Freethought | filename patterns: *.jpg *.JPG |
| 19:32.51 | shastry | good night! |
| 19:33.15 | wilfred | ok, mine also says .jpeg .JPEG so you could add those. also, what does 'embedding' say? |
| 19:35.01 | Freethought | use settings for aplication group is checked and "ask whether to save..." is checked also |
| 19:35.21 | Freethought | do i need to restart for those changes take effect? |
| 19:35.24 | Freethought | :P |
| 19:35.37 | Freethought | or perhaps logout login |
| 19:36.02 | wilfred | aha! mine says use settings for image group |
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| 19:36.51 | Freethought | ammm i dont have that option.. |
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| 19:37.43 | Freethought | righhhhht in png files it shows settings for image group |
| 19:37.44 | Freethought | !!!!! |
| 19:37.56 | Freethought | ok thats a progress thnx dude. what now? |
| 19:38.49 | wilfred | whats your application preference order on the general tab for jpeg? |
| 19:39.11 | manchicken | Is there any way to have artsd adjust the volume for certain applications differently than others? |
| 19:39.19 | manchicken | kopete is awful loud.... |
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| 19:39.38 | Freethought | i actualy ordered them as in png files |
| 19:40.22 | Freethought | so its showfoto, gwenview, gThumb image viewer, image viewer |
| 19:40.27 | Freethought | kview |
| 19:40.32 | Freethought | gqview |
| 19:41.02 | wilfred | that should do. my jpeg settings are gwenview, firefox (??), krita but that should be fine |
| 19:41.26 | Freethought | ok in png firefox and krita is there to.. not in jpeg |
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| 19:41.36 | Freethought | should i add them? |
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| 19:42.23 | wilfred | as long as they're image apps it should work. Is it working yet? |
| 19:42.48 | Freethought | nop , no need to logout/in for the changes to take effect? |
| 19:43.52 | wilfred | I'm not sure on that |
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| 19:44.41 | Freethought | well let me try it anyway |
| 19:44.43 | Freethought | brb |
| 19:44.49 | wilfred | ok-doke |
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| 19:47.08 | acidx | no good:| |
| 19:47.38 | Freethought | noooooo goood |
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| 19:48.48 | Freethought | wilfred you there mate? |
| 19:49.28 | wilfred | yup |
| 19:49.45 | wilfred | I'm thinking, but I'm running out of ideas |
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| 19:51.35 | wilfred | try konqueror -> configure and hit defaults |
| 19:51.36 | Freethought | heheh |
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| 19:53.13 | Freethought | nop:p |
| 19:53.21 | Freethought | not that simple hey? :) |
| 19:53.58 | Freethought | it so sed this issue im starting to laught of it... :) |
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| 19:55.31 | WindowsUninstall | Anyone know how to disable kdm theme? |
| 19:55.33 | wilfred | *looks at history* so you've installed crossover office? Perhaps you should contact them |
| 19:57.04 | Freethought | it was prior of installing crossover.. i installed it just recently |
| 19:57.19 | wilfred | ok. so if you click a jpg does it open? |
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| 19:59.03 | Freethought | offcourse.. i can view jpg files.. i just dont get a thumbnail and preview in file tips as i do for PNG.. i know its stupid but i realy want that option to be possible:) |
| 19:59.38 | Freethought | i think it must do something with the emmbeding option we discovered before.. |
| 19:59.54 | Freethought | the question is how to change it from application to image |
| 20:00.33 | wilfred | I think it's to do with the applications chosen to open it |
| 20:02.13 | Freethought | what set in urs? |
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| 20:03.32 | G77 | Heyho everyone |
| 20:03.36 | wilfred | gwenview, firefox, krita |
| 20:03.44 | G77 | www.xeblog.co.nr |
| 20:03.51 | G77 | http://xeblog.co.nr |
| 20:04.21 | G77 | Awsomeness |
| 20:04.41 | G77 | its my personal blog guys, it'd be nice to have some visitors :-D |
| 20:06.45 | Freethought | :\ |
| 20:07.05 | wilfred | what version kde? |
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| 20:07.32 | Freethought | 3.5 |
| 20:07.32 | PhilRod | ~crossover-jpg |
| 20:07.34 | apt | If you have problems with JPEGs and have crossover installed, see http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.kde.general/13618 |
| 20:07.34 | PhilRod | ~crossover-jpeg |
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| 20:10.20 | joko | Hi... Is anyone using kkbswitch on xorg-server 1.1.1? I'm afraid it stopped working after the upgrade... |
| 20:10.44 | wilfred | Freethought: the link provided by apt looks v useful |
| 20:10.55 | G77 | guys... |
| 20:11.01 | G77 | does anyone have a DS lite? |
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| 20:12.13 | PhilRod | Freethought: apparently crossover fixed it in the latest version |
| 20:12.39 | G77 | www.xeblog.co.nr |
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| 20:13.21 | DaBlade | Hello |
| 20:13.30 | DaBlade | In Konq, how can I get previews for video files? |
| 20:13.58 | PhilRod | DaBlade: you can get a picture of the opening frame (or thereabouts) with the appropriate bit of kdemultimedia installed |
| 20:14.05 | PhilRod | G77: no more advertising please |
| 20:14.16 | DaBlade | PhilRod: Know what the name of that bit is? |
| 20:14.28 | DaBlade | Preferably, but not necessarily in Debian naming format |
| 20:15.20 | PhilRod | DaBlade: xine_artsplugin |
| 20:15.26 | DaBlade | ok |
| 20:15.52 | DaBlade | that would be libarts1-xine in debian-speak |
| 20:16.54 | DaBlade | PhilRod: Would I need to restart KDE for this to work? |
| 20:17.09 | PhilRod | just run kbuildsycoca should be enough I guess |
| 20:17.15 | DaBlade | ok |
| 20:17.16 | DaBlade | Thanks |
| 20:17.24 | PhilRod | you might need to make sure you get rid of any preloaded konq instances too |
| 20:17.29 | DaBlade | PhilRod: BTW, is it true that kompmgr is to be scrapped? |
| 20:18.25 | Pinaraf | <PROTECTED> |
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| 20:18.49 | DaBlade | Pinaraf: I figured that, but will it be totally scrapped or are parts going to be reused? |
| 20:18.51 | PhilRod | DaBlade: kwin in trunk has compositing support, so kompmgr won't be needed |
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| 20:18.58 | DaBlade | Hmm, ok |
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| 20:21.29 | DaBlade | PhilRod: Ok, I ran kbuildsycoca, but I still don't see video previews |
| 20:21.55 | PhilRod | maybe you do need a restart |
| 20:22.07 | PhilRod | ...of kde |
| 20:22.08 | DaBlade | Hmm..damn. |
| 20:22.16 | DaBlade | Yeah, I understood that |
| 20:22.24 | DaBlade | But that would involve killing ktorrent. |
| 20:22.42 | DaBlade | And it's downloading a couple of TV shows at a pretty nice speed now. :( |
| 20:24.19 | SMiLeaf | DaBlade: have you restarted your konqueror? |
| 20:24.23 | DaBlade | Yep |
| 20:24.28 | SMiLeaf | twice? |
| 20:24.31 | DaBlade | kill -9-ed the process too. |
| 20:24.37 | SMiLeaf | lol.. it by defaults preloads one :) |
| 20:24.49 | DaBlade | I know, I did a kill -9 on it |
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| 20:24.55 | SMiLeaf | ok |
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| 20:25.12 | DaBlade | No wait, I got it |
| 20:25.19 | DaBlade | Forgot to configure it to preview videos. |
| 20:25.22 | DaBlade | D'oh. |
| 20:25.27 | SMiLeaf | XD |
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| 20:28.57 | PhilRod | Freethought: did apt's link help? |
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| 20:36.48 | Freethought | SOLVED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:) |
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| 20:37.43 | kyaneos | hi |
| 20:38.00 | Freethought | it wasnt the link <apt> gave me , but while i was reading there i had an idea and WALLA! |
| 20:39.02 | PhilRod | what's "walla"? |
| 20:40.01 | Freethought | in file assocations in konqueror setting -> file asso' -> application -> i had an entry called x-kdeuser1 which was associated with jpg and jpeg i have no idea how it got there but i removed it and immidiatly it solved the issue! |
| 20:40.38 | Freethought | wala.. as in french .. its like saying amm , "here you go" .. we use it in hebrew to.. :) |
| 20:40.39 | straw | PhilRod: a simplified rendition of "voila", i gather |
| 20:40.51 | Freethought | yeah yeah voila:) |
| 20:41.32 | PhilRod | urggh |
| 20:41.41 | Freethought | urggh? |
| 20:41.44 | kyaneos | i have a problem: some web fonts in konqueror looks non-antialiased |
| 20:41.50 | kyaneos | can somebody help me? |
| 20:41.58 | PhilRod | kyaneos: screenshot please |
| 20:42.26 | Freethought | philrod why urggh? |
| 20:42.30 | kyaneos | ok. wait please |
| 20:43.16 | PhilRod | Freethought: "voilà" -> "walla" :-( |
| 20:43.29 | Freethought | haaa hehehe :) |
| 20:43.35 | Freethought | are you french? |
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| 20:43.47 | tuxick | maybe belgian! |
| 20:43.55 | Freethought | perhaps.. |
| 20:44.10 | Freethought | or swiss? |
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| 20:46.24 | PhilRod | no, British, but I like the French language enough to feel pain when I see it massacred like that :-) |
| 20:47.21 | illogic-al | lol |
| 20:47.24 | kyaneos | PhilRod: here is |
| 20:47.39 | Freethought | hehehehe i know what you mean dude. :) allthough i was born in switzerland i dont know french but i can understand your pain hehe:) |
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| 20:49.17 | kyaneos | PhilRod: accept please |
| 20:49.38 | Freethought | ok Philrod thnk you for your assistance and you to apt, and same for all the rest, have a good night, and PEACE.SHALOM.SALAM |
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| 20:49.56 | rushfan | Umm, is it normal for konqueror to take several minutes when deleting files? |
| 20:50.30 | kyaneos | i have a problem: some web fonts in konqueror looks non-antialiased |
| 20:50.32 | kyaneos | can somebody help me? |
| 20:50.33 | kyaneos | please |
| 20:50.56 | PhilRod | kyaneos: put it on imageshack.us please so anyone can see |
| 20:51.10 | PhilRod | (plus I can't be bothered trying to get get DCC through my firewall) |
| 20:51.17 | PhilRod | Freethought: yw :-) |
| 20:51.32 | Freethought | yw? |
| 20:51.38 | PhilRod | you're welcome |
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| 20:51.42 | Freethought | oh:) |
| 20:51.47 | Freethought | thnx . bye |
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| 20:53.48 | unity | is there a way for me to block "http://packages.gentoo.org" from a user? or reroute it to a page that says "Concentrate on your homework, unity!" |
| 20:54.25 | WindowsUninstall | unity, Why? |
| 20:54.36 | WindowsUninstall | unity, http://packages.gentoo.org <-- Is a nice website :) |
| 20:54.52 | unity | yes, but i have this wierd addiction to it |
| 20:55.10 | unity | everyday, i go there and check if there are any upgrades that i want |
| 20:55.24 | unity | i don't want it to distract me from my schoolwork |
| 20:55.31 | PhilRod | unity: cat "127.0.0.1 packages.gentoo.org" >> /etc/hosts |
| 20:55.43 | PhilRod | er, s/cat/echo/ of course |
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| 20:55.58 | unity | PhilRod: that's what i was thinking but it seemed kind of...drastic |
| 20:56.28 | PhilRod | I can ban you from here if that helps :-) |
| 20:56.32 | unity | PhilRod: i thought maybe konqueror can block certain pages as a guard to keep children on the correct part of the interent |
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| 20:58.02 | unity | don't bother blocking, i will probably just unmerge konversation |
| 20:58.21 | PhilRod | I don't think konq has any parental control nonsense |
| 20:58.35 | icwiener | Why not shutting down your PC? |
| 20:58.47 | unity | icwiener: i do homework on my pc because i type faster than i write |
| 20:58.57 | icwiener | Ah, ok. |
| 20:58.57 | unity | icwiener: and maxima takes care of my math homewor |
| 20:59.06 | Sho_ | unity: Hm why do you wantto unmerge Konversation? |
| 20:59.19 | unity | Sho_: irc distracts me from schoolwork |
| 20:59.23 | Sho_ | unity: ah |
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| 20:59.52 | Sho_ | unity: Sorry, I'm one of the developers, so I got an alarm bell in my head that rings when somebody types something like that ;) |
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| 21:00.46 | Q-collective | [16:12:41] <Sho_> Q-collective: no comment |
| 21:00.47 | Q-collective | ? |
| 21:00.48 | Q-collective | :( |
| 21:01.20 | unity | Sho_: great work! |
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| 21:02.20 | Sho_ | unity: glad you like it ;) |
| 21:02.56 | Ace2007__ | Sho_: We could do with a filter box so that we can filter chat for a nick or something |
| 21:03.00 | Ace2007__ | :D |
| 21:03.11 | Ace2007__ | by we i mean i |
| 21:03.20 | Ace2007__ | and by want i mean need |
| 21:03.23 | unity | Ace2007__: you can ctrl+f for a nick |
| 21:04.05 | aep | Ace2007__: http://exys.org/man/nickname.html |
| 21:04.09 | Ace2007__ | still, it won't show just that person's stuff. like in konqueror, or if i type ":D" i want it to show everything with ":D" in it |
| 21:04.57 | Ace2007__ | like the konqueror filter box, which shows just the files which have the thing your seaching for in the name |
| 21:05.39 | unity | well until that feature is implemented, have fun grepping log files |
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| 21:06.28 | Ace2007__ | whats grepping? |
| 21:06.30 | ShockValue | how do i get "startx" to use the --dpi setting if im logging on with KDM straight into KDE? |
| 21:06.35 | Sho_ | Ace2007___: That would be nice, but is unfortunately non-trivial to implement |
| 21:07.45 | Ace2007__ | what if it just grayed the stuff out instead, or made the font smaller, and made the stuff with the search term in it red/bold or use a custom thing? |
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| 21:10.45 | unity | Ace2007__: "grep unity ~/.konversation_logs/freenode_#kde.log" <-- that bash command will print out all the lines with my name in it, assuming that's where you keep your konversation logs |
| 21:10.45 | _dario | dario |
| 21:11.02 | Sho_ | Ace2007__: That is non-trivial, too ;) |
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| 21:13.03 | rushfan | Whats the diff. between physical, buffer, and cached ram in ksysguard? |
| 21:13.06 | unity | something about the widget it uses for the chat window makes it so that you can only write strings to the end of it? |
| 21:13.13 | rushfan | And BTW, can ksysguard actually tell me what is using my swap space? |
| 21:13.26 | rushfan | I have 950MB of RAM and 400MB of swap space being used for no apparent reason |
| 21:14.19 | kyaneos | i have a problem: some web fonts in konqueror looks non-antialiased |
| 21:14.20 | kyaneos | can somebody help me? |
| 21:14.21 | kyaneos | please |
| 21:14.25 | rushfan | kyaneos: Well |
| 21:14.28 | rushfan | Are you using font hinting? |
| 21:14.46 | kyaneos | how can i see it? |
| 21:14.52 | kyaneos | i think full hinting |
| 21:15.01 | kyaneos | rushfan: |
| 21:15.18 | rushfan | unity: well I should not have any swap space bieng used. |
| 21:15.24 | rushfan | I used to have like 300mb of ram being used at most |
| 21:15.34 | kyaneos | rushfan: yes, full hinting style |
| 21:15.39 | rushfan | I even added up the ram of everything in ps aux. Its doesnt add up to all the memory being used |
| 21:15.43 | Renze | rushfan: something has a memory leak, maybe? |
| 21:15.46 | rushfan | kyaneos: ok, Im looking for something here |
| 21:15.52 | rushfan | Renze: well wouldnt a memory leak show up? |
| 21:15.58 | kyaneos | ok |
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| 21:16.08 | rushfan | and konqueror is taking like 3 minutes to delete files |
| 21:16.13 | Renze | rushfan: it's not quite that simple with modern memory management techniques |
| 21:16.14 | rushfan | It usually does it instantly. :| |
| 21:16.23 | rushfan | Renze: how can I find out if there is a memory leak? |
| 21:16.24 | PhilRod | kyaneos: please put your screenshot on imageshack.us and paste the link to it here so we can see it |
| 21:17.01 | Renze | rushfan: there is no easy way... try quitting out of your apps one by one and see if you get a whole bunch of memory back |
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| 21:18.26 | rushfan | Renze: I hate saying this as it sounds like a windows user... |
| 21:18.31 | rushfan | Is the easy way to close all apps to restart? |
| 21:18.49 | Renze | apart from logging out? |
| 21:19.11 | rushfan | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:19.17 | rushfan | Because I have some stuff running w/o guis |
| 21:19.19 | rushfan | Like mpd and mythtv |
| 21:19.27 | rushfan | Those wouldn't be affected by logging out, would they? |
| 21:19.34 | rushfan | Or would they? |
| 21:19.34 | Renze | no |
| 21:19.39 | rushfan | hmm :\ |
| 21:19.46 | PhilRod | unless you started them during your kde session |
| 21:19.50 | PhilRod | from within the kde session |
| 21:19.52 | rushfan | No I didnt |
| 21:19.58 | rushfan | Should I just restart? |
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| 21:20.14 | Renze | rushfan: restarting won't tell you which app is eating ram |
| 21:20.22 | rushfan | True |
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| 21:20.33 | rushfan | Then should I just start killing things? |
| 21:20.37 | kyaneos | http://img46.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snapshot1sr7.png |
| 21:20.43 | kyaneos | PhilRod: here it is |
| 21:20.47 | kyaneos | rushfan: |
| 21:20.52 | icwiener | Doesn't top or htop tell you who's eating ram? |
| 21:20.56 | rushfan | Nope. |
| 21:21.01 | rushfan | Top doesnt show any significant memory usage |
| 21:21.10 | freeone3000 | How would I keep ktorrent from eating my ram? |
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| 21:21.17 | freeone3000 | Seriously, it uses more than Eclipse. |
| 21:21.27 | Renze | freeone3000: ktorrent doesn't eat ram here |
| 21:21.38 | freeone3000 | Odd. What could cause it? |
| 21:22.00 | Renze | freeone3000: what version of ktorrent? |
| 21:22.01 | freeone3000 | (I normally torrent large files, currently I've got a few torrents that are a few GB in size each. (The files,not the .torrent)) |
| 21:22.06 | kucrut | freeone3000: 5% of 512 MB here |
| 21:22.29 | freeone3000 | Qt: 3.3.6, KDE: 3.5.4, KTorrent: 1.2 |
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| 21:22.52 | PhilRod | kyaneos: you mean the text "Andrew Morton ..." |
| 21:22.54 | PhilRod | ? |
| 21:23.06 | kucrut | freeone3000: yah, upgrade please |
| 21:23.40 | kyaneos | PhilRod: yes |
| 21:24.12 | freeone3000 | Alrighty, upgrading to debian's newest and shineies. |
| 21:24.29 | freeone3000 | ..Major KDE upgrade recently? |
| 21:24.39 | icwiener | freeone3000: Then email the maintainer to upgrade the packages. :) |
| 21:24.40 | Renze | ktorrrent isn't part of KDE |
| 21:24.50 | freeone3000 | Yeah, but I see the rest of it. |
| 21:25.08 | rushfan | Ok, it got it sorted |
| 21:25.10 | rushfan | Its been cahced |
| 21:25.11 | kyaneos | PhilRod: some solution? |
| 21:25.23 | rushfan | Now I cant figure out why the hell it takes konqueror 3 minutes to delete my files |
| 21:25.23 | wizard123 | good afternoon |
| 21:25.27 | wizard123 | guys |
| 21:25.31 | wizard123 | :) |
| 21:25.52 | rushfan | hey |
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| 21:30.31 | PhilRod | kyaneos: that text is antialiased here (on that page), so I suppose you need to go to settings->configure konqueror->fonts and make sure all the fonts there are scalable (so they can be antialiased) |
| 21:31.27 | Renze | and check your exclude range |
| 21:32.04 | unity | why is there an exclude range? |
| 21:32.18 | unity | it seems to make sense to anti-alias fonts at any size |
| 21:32.22 | Renze | some people like their screen fonts to be non-antialiased |
| 21:32.31 | Renze | these are strange people |
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| 21:34.39 | rushfan | No wonder Im having all these problems |
| 21:34.46 | rushfan | I upgraded to GCC 4.1.1 and didnt even realize it |
| 21:34.46 | rushfan | heh |
| 21:34.54 | jjholt | is there a way to disable the kicker? |
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| 21:40.59 | wizard123 | hey! |
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| 21:52.53 | yango | hello... how does konqueror mount new filesystems? what tool does it use? |
| 21:53.22 | Janitux | pmount i think |
| 21:54.41 | yango | thanks! |
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| 21:58.04 | wizard123 | pmount? |
| 21:58.15 | wizard123 | what's that crap> |
| 21:58.18 | wizard123 | ? |
| 21:58.36 | Renze | policy mount... for mounting removable media without root access or an fstab entry |
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| 22:07.53 | wizard123 | omfg! my buddy broken 3 windows when we were going back to home :( |
| 22:09.14 | icwiener | Does he live behind those windows? |
| 22:09.52 | wizard123 | nope |
| 22:10.06 | icwiener | Then it's a bad thing. |
| 22:10.39 | wizard123 | we where carying him to home.. he got a stones and broke 3 windows :( |
| 22:10.43 | PhilRod | but but but... windows is already broken! |
| 22:10.55 | PhilRod | (ba doom ching. I'm here all week) |
| 22:10.55 | icwiener | :D |
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| 22:11.20 | wizard123 | PhilRod: not an os. he broke glass windows |
| 22:11.36 | icwiener | I will never understand why people drink so much alcohol to to those things. |
| 22:11.44 | wizard123 | then he was vomiting |
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| 22:14.01 | Toran | how can I get the "extract here..." service menu for .RAR files? I have it for .zip and .tar.gz and .tar.bz2, but not rars |
| 22:15.19 | Renze | Toran: http://developer.kde.org/documentation/tutorials/dot/servicemenus.html |
| 22:16.05 | Renze | rarrrr, me hearties... only pirates be using rar... rarrrrr |
| 22:16.47 | Toran | Hahahha |
| 22:16.58 | Toran | not necessarily... |
| 22:17.03 | Toran | matey |
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| 22:29.12 | BoD_ | Hi, can someone tell me how to mount a cdrom from there desktop, i got the icon but when i click it i get the error mount-cd9660 /dev/acd0: Operation not permitted |
| 22:29.41 | WindowsUninstall | BoD_, Have you got the permissions? |
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| 22:29.48 | BoD_ | yes |
| 22:29.51 | WindowsUninstall | Hi rdale |
| 22:30.05 | Blissex | BoD_: that usually depends on your distro. Mounting mechanisms are distro dependendent. |
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| 22:30.08 | BoD_ | well i think so |
| 22:30.19 | WindowsUninstall | BoD_, Which distro do you use? |
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| 22:30.21 | haakonn | check your /etc/fstab for signs of /dev/acd0 |
| 22:30.25 | BoD_ | 6.1 |
| 22:30.27 | Blissex | Bod_: check that the 'user' option is in the relevat lines of '/etc/fstab' for example. |
| 22:30.35 | icwiener | FreeBSD? |
| 22:30.39 | BoD_ | y |
| 22:30.55 | BoD_ | FreeBSD |
| 22:31.36 | rdale | hi WindowsUninstall |
| 22:32.21 | BoD_ | yep i got /dev/acd0/cdromcd9660ro,noauto00 |
| 22:32.23 | Blissex | BoD_: also ask in #FreeBSD because mounting is indeed a bit distro dependent. |
| 22:32.55 | icwiener | Ther is no 'user'? |
| 22:32.58 | Blissex | BoD_: I don't know whether the FreeBSD 'mount' supports 'user' as an option. 'man 8 mount' to check. If it does, add it after 'noauto' |
| 22:33.00 | BoD_ | io can mount the dame thing as root |
| 22:33.26 | BoD_ | ok i go check in freebsd |
| 22:33.57 | WindowsUninstall | BoD_, ls -la /dev/acd0 and check user permissions |
| 22:35.32 | yango | is there pmount in FreeBSD? |
| 22:36.04 | BoD_ | ls -la /dev/acd0 gives crw-r----- 1 root operator 0, 93 Sep 2 16:28 /dev/acd0 |
| 22:36.33 | BoD_ | pmount ??? not sure |
| 22:36.44 | Renze | is your user in the "operator" group? |
| 22:36.57 | BoD_ | no |
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| 22:37.04 | BoD_ | but i can put |
| 22:37.12 | BoD_ | brb |
| 22:37.47 | wizard123 | :) |
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| 22:39.05 | wizard123 | BoD_: you cant mount devices as ordinary user until you set sysctl vfs.usermount to 1 ant mountpoint will be writable by iser |
| 22:39.35 | milian_ | hi, is it possible to configure the display of a directory in konqueror via the .directory files? |
| 22:39.35 | icwiener | How many ways leeding to rome? :d |
| 22:39.45 | icwiener | *leading |
| 22:39.57 | Renze | icwiener: as many as there are unixen in the world :D |
| 22:39.57 | wizard123 | icwiener: huh? |
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| 22:40.19 | wizard123 | hmm.. actualy all roads leads to Rome :D |
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| 22:40.36 | icwiener | wizard123: He got many ways to solve the problem. I hope he doesn't implement all of them. ;) |
| 22:40.42 | Renze | the road my house is on doesn't lead to Rome |
| 22:40.58 | wizard123 | Renze: cuz you don't leave in europe |
| 22:41.08 | Renze | wizard123: exactly |
| 22:41.11 | wizard123 | i forgot how to say it in latin :D |
| 22:41.13 | milian_ | or is there a man page / whatever about what you can do with those .directory files? |
| 22:41.22 | Renze | therefore your premise that all roads lead to rome is false :D |
| 22:41.35 | wizard123 | i hope my bsd-brother BoD_ will solve his problem |
| 22:41.37 | wizard123 | :D |
| 22:42.01 | wizard123 | actually it is described in handbook and faq, but who cares about that crap ? |
| 22:42.26 | wizard123 | i will install freebsd too |
| 22:42.30 | wizard123 | it rox |
| 22:42.35 | wizard123 | :D |
| 22:42.42 | icwiener | gentoo/freebsd? ;) |
| 22:42.49 | wizard123 | nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo |
| 22:43.10 | BoD_ | that didnt work |
| 22:43.11 | wizard123 | gento is on my 'never ever' list |
| 22:43.17 | wizard123 | BoD_: huh? |
| 22:43.24 | wizard123 | BoD_: wait a second |
| 22:43.41 | BoD_ | i put the user in oparator group and still no go |
| 22:43.51 | wizard123 | why operator? |
| 22:43.57 | icwiener | Did you relogin? |
| 22:44.13 | icwiener | Somone said operater earlier. |
| 22:44.22 | wizard123 | :S |
| 22:44.30 | Renze | I asked a question, I didn't make a suggestion :P |
| 22:44.37 | wizard123 | kewl |
| 22:44.58 | Renze | on the fool's head be it if he takes my question as a suggestion :D |
| 22:44.59 | wizard123 | BoD_: user has to have write access to mountpoint |
| 22:45.00 | BoD_ | whats sysctl vfs thing |
| 22:45.08 | wizard123 | ufs.usermount |
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| 22:45.46 | wizard123 | BoD_: you use freebsd, the best documented os in the world! |
| 22:46.11 | wizard123 | http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/disks.html#USER-FLOPPYMOUNT |
| 22:46.19 | BoD_ | yeah but i been trying for like 5 hours and nothing seems to work |
| 22:46.27 | wizard123 | everything was explained somewhere :D |
| 22:46.43 | Blissex | BoD_: when nothing seems to work, try looking at logs, and trying simple ops. Like command line first. |
| 22:46.50 | Renze | the more I hear about *bsd... the less I want to try it :D |
| 22:47.38 | wizard123 | BoD_: i'm freebsd fan :D pm me and i will guide you through config :D |
| 22:47.52 | wizard123 | and don't listen to Renze and Blissex :D |
| 22:47.55 | Blissex | Renze: the *BSD stuff is much better designed and coded than Linux stuff. But it has some downsides, mostly that it is not GPL'ed, the package manager is Gentoo like, and there are many less drivers. |
| 22:48.23 | wizard123 | Blissex: pkg manager is not gentoo like :((((( |
| 22:48.43 | Blissex | wizard123: I hope I did not offend with that comparison :-). |
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| 22:48.53 | wizard123 | :( |
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| 22:49.07 | wizard123 | man, ports are way different than portage |
| 22:49.09 | wizard123 | :( |
| 22:49.29 | Blissex | wizard123: source based bollocks for the most part? :-) |
| 22:49.53 | wizard123 | packages are aslo available.. for most platforms and releases.. |
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| 22:50.00 | wizard123 | freebsd rocks! |
| 22:50.46 | SonicChao | Lol wizard123 |
| 22:50.52 | wizard123 | :S |
| 22:51.02 | wizard123 | SonicChao: don't laugh.. |
| 22:51.17 | SonicChao | :( |
| 22:51.32 | wizard123 | and don't be sad! |
| 22:51.36 | wizard123 | :D |
| 22:51.50 | wizard123 | realise that freebsd rocks! |
| 22:51.57 | Renze | meh |
| 22:52.17 | wizard123 | i met my old friends |
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| 22:52.48 | wizard123 | i moving out from my city so we decided to spend that evening together |
| 22:52.57 | wizard123 | uh... |
| 22:53.07 | wizard123 | i'm glad that i can still type ;) |
| 22:53.29 | wizard123 | BoD_: did you solved your problem? |
| 22:53.55 | BoD_ | iam just going to reboot to find out |
| 22:54.13 | wizard123 | BoD_: remember that freebs > 5.0 uses devfs |
| 22:54.22 | wizard123 | (kewl thing, udev sux) |
| 22:54.38 | wizard123 | so you can't just chmod /dev/cd0 (or /dev/acd0) |
| 22:55.22 | BoD_ | ? |
| 22:55.48 | wizard123 | did you read taht faq? |
| 22:55.56 | wizard123 | that is explained there |
| 22:56.03 | BoD_ | yeh |
| 22:56.12 | BoD_ | i edit the files like it said |
| 22:56.18 | wizard123 | good :) |
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| 22:56.24 | BoD_ | i think i got it |
| 22:56.26 | BoD_ | brb |
| 22:56.29 | wizard123 | ok |
| 22:56.45 | wizard123 | i love to help freebsd newbies |
| 22:57.03 | wizard123 | :) |
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| 22:57.57 | mmiikkee12 | can i put things on top of each other on a panel? |
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| 23:00.31 | wizard123 | damn, his freebsd works as a snail ;) |
| 23:01.11 | wizard123 | y 6.1 wa starting to kdm in 7 secons (measured) |
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| 23:04.24 | BoD_ | no cd |
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| 23:04.52 | wizard123 | uhh |
| 23:05.12 | wizard123 | BoD_: i'm _a bit_ drunk, but paste your mount errors here |
| 23:06.27 | BoD_ | mount_cd9660: /dev/acd0: Operation not permitted |
| 23:06.47 | wizard123 | sysctl vfs.usermount |
| 23:07.13 | BoD_ | still not |
| 23:07.20 | wizard123 | 0 or 1 ? |
| 23:07.35 | BoD_ | 0 or 1? |
| 23:07.42 | wizard123 | it is the most important thing |
| 23:07.47 | BoD_ | 1 |
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| 23:08.11 | wizard123 | ok, ls -l /dev/acd0 |
| 23:08.38 | BoD_ | crw-rw-rw- 1 root operator 0, 93 Sep 2 23:59 /dev/acd0 |
| 23:08.49 | wizard123 | groups |
| 23:09.07 | Renze | BoD_: did you add the 'user' option to the fstab entry? |
| 23:09.21 | wizard123 | Renze: freebsd does not have it!!!!!!! |
| 23:09.23 | BoD_ | let me check |
| 23:09.31 | wizard123 | BoD_: don't check! |
| 23:09.34 | Renze | wizard123: bsd is weird |
| 23:09.38 | wizard123 | it _won't_ eork |
| 23:09.45 | wizard123 | Renze: freebsd is )sane_ |
| 23:09.53 | wizard123 | damn :P _snae_ |
| 23:09.56 | Renze | BoD_: switch to linux, you'll have less problems :D |
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| 23:10.07 | wizard123 | BoD_: don't switch ;) |
| 23:10.17 | wizard123 | you will love ports ;) |
| 23:10.24 | BoD_ | its the only distro i can get to install |
| 23:10.46 | wizard123 | this is bot distro, freebsd is The Mighty OS :D |
| 23:10.54 | wizard123 | s/bot/not/ |
| 23:11.02 | wizard123 | :S |
| 23:11.05 | Renze | wizard123: go drink some more :D |
| 23:11.13 | BoD_ | stupid box has fits if i try anything else |
| 23:11.38 | wizard123 | BoD_: give 'groups' as user you want to mount cd |
| 23:12.13 | wizard123 | Renze: i won't |
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| 23:12.37 | wizard123 | my father was trying to speak with me about sex and my girlfriends |
| 23:12.49 | wizard123 | i don' want to confuse him |
| 23:14.24 | wizard123 | BoD_: i would bless my box if it does not allow me to install anything but freebsd |
| 23:14.42 | wizard123 | now i'm cursed by gentoo |
| 23:15.13 | wizard123 | and i splatted bug on the wall :S |
| 23:15.20 | wizard123 | (when i said gentoo) |
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| 23:17.00 | wizard123 | ok, i'm going to sleep. Renze: could you remind me what did i say today :P ? i think i would not remember anything tommorow mornin' ;) |
| 23:17.14 | Renze | write it down |
| 23:17.21 | icwiener | log? |
| 23:17.42 | wizard123 | i don't have a time to set up logs :S |
| 23:17.59 | wizard123 | ok, good night ;) |
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| 23:21.14 | BoD_ | thanks |
| 23:22.28 | mmiikkee12 | can i put things on top of each other on a panel? |
| 23:22.49 | Renze | mmiikkee12: not currently... maybe in kde4 if you suggest it to the developers :) |
| 23:22.56 | mmiikkee12 | hmm |
| 23:23.22 | mmiikkee12 | how about properties for a panel besides the first one? |
| 23:23.52 | Renze | select the panel you want to configure from the drop down box in the first page of the Configure Panel dialog |
| 23:24.23 | Renze | if it is a menu bar at the top of the screen, that is a special case |
| 23:24.24 | mmiikkee12 | Renze: i don't have a drop down box there |
| 23:24.48 | Renze | mmiikkee12: then you only have one panel (or a panel and a menu bar) |
| 23:25.04 | mmiikkee12 | Renze: is the taskbar at the bottom a menu bar? |
| 23:25.10 | Renze | no |
| 23:25.15 | Renze | that is a panel |
| 23:25.18 | mmiikkee12 | i right-clicked that -> add new panel -> panel |
| 23:25.29 | Renze | and where did that new panel appear? |
| 23:25.34 | mmiikkee12 | on the right |
| 23:25.48 | Renze | then you should be able to right click that, and select Configure Panel |
| 23:25.55 | mmiikkee12 | hmm, works now |
| 23:26.04 | mmiikkee12 | while ago it was giving me properties for the taskbar |
| 23:26.12 | Blissex | wizard123: if you haven't gone to sleep yet... |
| 23:26.25 | Blissex | wizard123: check out FreeBSD in this entry: http://meetme.hotornot.com/r/?emid=OYBENM |
| 23:27.31 | mmiikkee12 | Renze: actually, it looks like the right panel, but changing the properties for it changes the bottom panel |
| 23:27.44 | Renze | mmiikkee12: what about the dropdown? |
| 23:28.07 | mmiikkee12 | Renze: only dropdown i have is for size |
| 23:28.10 | Renze | mmiikkee12: some settings are shared across panels |
| 23:28.16 | Renze | mmiikkee12: what distro? |
| 23:28.38 | mmiikkee12 | Renze: debian |
| 23:28.47 | Renze | mmiikkee12: and what KDE version? |
| 23:28.54 | mmiikkee12 | Renze: and i don't think size is, because it only changes the wrong one :) |
| 23:29.10 | mmiikkee12 | 3.5.4 |
| 23:29.41 | Renze | mmiikkee12: weird... 3.5.4 works properly for me in gentoo. If I add a new panel, I get a dropdown for selecting which panel I want to configure |
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| 23:31.14 | mmiikkee12 | Renze: adding 2 panels also doesn't work (worth a try...) |
| 23:31.32 | Renze | mmiikkee12: ask in #debian if this is known distro breakage :) |
| 23:31.37 | mmiikkee12 | Renze: can you give me a screenshot of that, to make sure i'm in the right place? |
| 23:31.44 | Renze | hold on |
| 23:33.11 | Renze | mmiikkee12: http://img77.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snapshotfd1.png |
| 23:33.44 | mmiikkee12 | Renze: yep, that's the same config screen i'm at, except without the menu at the top :/ |
| 23:34.05 | Renze | mmiikkee12: must be distro breakage then |
| 23:35.54 | Renze | only 96kbit? lame :) |
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| 23:39.41 | mmiikkee12 | Renze: got it - i just put the main one on the right and resized it ;) |
| 23:39.51 | Renze | ok |
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