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| 00:52.46 | Ykstort | hehehe |
| 00:52.56 | Ykstort | I'm running two X servers, one with KDE and another with Gnome |
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| 01:09.27 | tech9iner | so kdeMates n lassies n buggers like this one.. ;] |
| 01:09.44 | tech9iner | mate in other channel mentions there's a kde app similar to regex buddy? |
| 01:09.59 | tech9iner | any clues? |
| 01:10.01 | Renze | kregexpeditor |
| 01:10.28 | tech9iner | thanks Renze .. damn. wtf too soo long btw Wink;Wink ;] |
| 01:10.30 | tech9iner | lol |
| 01:10.41 | tech9iner | talk bout fast food.. |
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| 01:10.50 | Renze | parse error on your message :D |
| 01:11.18 | Renze | oh... "took" :D got it |
| 01:11.25 | tech9iner | 'no reason to continue your families order at the drive through speakers sir. kindly pull forward. its waiting for you. for free btw' lol |
| 01:11.42 | Renze | you're not going to send a cheque? :D |
| 01:11.48 | tech9iner | oh oh yes |
| 01:11.51 | tech9iner | but of course ! |
| 01:11.58 | tech9iner | sentit ystrday Wink;Wink ;] |
| 01:12.00 | tech9iner | ;] |
| 01:12.02 | Renze | just sign it... I'll fill in the rest :D |
| 01:12.20 | tech9iner | should be there 7th tuesday of next month ;] |
| 01:12.26 | Renze | :P |
| 01:12.28 | tech9iner | hehe |
| 01:12.46 | tech9iner | cant hurt mate. trust me. cant hurt.... |
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| 01:26.07 | qupada | 7th tuesday you say? |
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| 01:27.17 | ChrisWhite | kregexpeditor owns your children and your second dog |
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| 01:34.37 | wmealing_ | Is there a method I can look at the changelog (along with patches) for konquerer ? something like viewcvs .. so that I can go back revisions ? |
| 01:35.18 | straw | wmealing_: websvn.kde.org, iirc |
| 01:35.49 | wmealing_ | exactly what I was after.. Thanks ! |
| 01:37.47 | straw | no sweat |
| 01:38.42 | straw | you're not still chasing that konq+ssl problem are you? |
| 01:38.47 | wmealing_ | Yes. |
| 01:38.54 | wmealing_ | I havn't been working on it all the time, just on and off. |
| 01:38.56 | straw | ick |
| 01:39.16 | wmealing_ | I keep getting interupted. |
| 01:39.55 | straw | have you checked the spec changelogs over time for fc? |
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| 01:40.36 | straw | or even rhl, i suppose :/ |
| 01:40.41 | vbhanu | there is a window decoration by the name dekorator, can it be used with kde? |
| 01:40.51 | straw | yes |
| 01:40.51 | Renze | vbhanu: it requires kde |
| 01:41.03 | wmealing_ | The RH changelogs are useless. |
| 01:41.03 | Renze | it has a k in it |
| 01:41.09 | vbhanu | I have installed it but when i select it the window frames are not coming |
| 01:41.24 | Renze | vbhanu: you need to select a theme in the config |
| 01:41.34 | vbhanu | I hope i am right in using the phrase "window frames" |
| 01:41.51 | AegeanLinux | wmealing_: in what way ? |
| 01:42.13 | vbhanu | Renze, oh!!! |
| 01:42.28 | vbhanu | Renze, cool suddenly my desktop looks cool :) |
| 01:42.30 | vbhanu | thanks |
| 01:42.38 | AegeanLinux | Renze: you what ? |
| 01:42.42 | Renze | vbhanu: no problem |
| 01:42.46 | wmealing_ | AegeanLinux, not enough information. |
| 01:43.00 | straw | wmealing_: too old? i can't remember whether rhel3 preceded fc |
| 01:43.04 | AegeanLinux | Don't they have a CVS repo ? |
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| 01:43.48 | straw | wmealing_: oh. yeah... |
| 01:48.56 | straw | wmealing_: hrm, "- apply patch to fix konqueror for working with new openssl #174541" |
| 01:49.14 | straw | rpm -q --changelog `rpm -qa "^kde*"`| grep -i ssl |
| 01:49.43 | straw | kind of a shotgun approach, but might help :p |
| 01:50.01 | wmealing_ | yeah.. I saw that.. reverted patch.. still broken. |
| 01:50.07 | straw | doh |
| 01:52.09 | wmealing_ | I'll build it again.. just for confirmation.. the bit fairies like to mess with my head. |
| 01:57.24 | vbhanu | please suggest a good icon set |
| 01:57.50 | Renze | nuvola? |
| 01:58.01 | Renze | crystal clear? |
| 01:58.08 | vbhanu | Renze, using that currently, wanted to shift :) |
| 01:58.09 | AegeanLinux | XP :=D |
| 01:58.20 | Renze | I don't think so, tim |
| 01:58.38 | Renze | why am I suddenly wearing flannel? |
| 01:58.38 | AegeanLinux | When will my name EVER get a capital Renze ? |
| 01:58.50 | Renze | when you've earned it :D |
| 01:59.01 | AegeanLinux | because it is raining here for 3 days in a row. A record! |
| 01:59.18 | Renze | we had lots of that... caused landslides |
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| 02:02.43 | Dario | I just want to say one thing. |
| 02:02.56 | wmealing_ | say it. |
| 02:02.57 | Dario | KDE has the best walpaper management ever. the diff scaling options are fantastic. |
| 02:03.11 | Dario | :p |
| 02:04.06 | wmealing_ | well said. |
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| 02:24.52 | wmealing_ | straw, if you are interested.. I kinda found something out.. |
| 02:25.01 | straw | sure |
| 02:26.07 | wmealing_ | I think it might be a session problem. |
| 02:26.12 | wmealing_ | straw, I set the preferences for the path to libssl (settings -> configure konq -> crypto -> libssl ), to /lib64/ if you set it to "test" it.. it fails. |
| 02:26.16 | wmealing_ | so.. click "ok" anyway. |
| 02:26.18 | wmealing_ | log out. |
| 02:26.19 | wmealing_ | log in. |
| 02:26.25 | wmealing_ | visit https://something.com , it then works |
| 02:26.30 | straw | heh |
| 02:26.35 | wmealing_ | go back to crypto -> libssl |
| 02:26.45 | wmealing_ | hit test.... it then passes. |
| 02:27.41 | wmealing_ | So, I'm thinking about just adding /lib64 in kopenssl.cc |
| 02:27.44 | wmealing_ | as a search path |
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| 02:28.34 | wmealing_ | I'm not sure if thats the best idea or not |
| 02:28.43 | wmealing_ | ideally, it would be good to have that implement that search path.. immediately. |
| 02:29.00 | wmealing_ | (this is probably out of scope for this channel though) |
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| 02:32.40 | straw | wmealing_: i wonder how it's done in later kde branches |
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| 02:32.57 | wmealing_ | I wouldn't even know where to start looking |
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| 02:39.34 | positivo | renze |
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| 02:39.54 | Ykstort`KDE | zomg |
| 02:39.56 | Renze | I still don't speak portuguese |
| 02:40.04 | Ykstort`KDE | Konversation is actually not that bad |
| 02:40.18 | Renze | Ykstort`KDE: you were expecting it to be bad? |
| 02:40.28 | Ykstort`KDE | Renze: I'd heard it was crap :P |
| 02:40.34 | nessinha | olá renze |
| 02:40.39 | Renze | stop listening to those morons |
| 02:40.53 | nessinha | sy love you |
| 02:40.55 | Renze | nessinha: I still don't speak portuguese, and I don't intend to ever learn |
| 02:41.03 | Renze | nessinha: are you gay? |
| 02:41.15 | nessinha | ay love you |
| 02:41.46 | Renze | nessinha: I'm a straight male... go away |
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| 02:42.05 | boxin | is any one can see my msg? |
| 02:42.11 | nessinha | te amo lindo renze |
| 02:42.14 | Ardonik | boxin: no. |
| 02:42.16 | Renze | can somebody with op ban that portuguese loser? |
| 02:42.22 | boxin | god |
| 02:42.25 | Renze | boxin: pardon? I couldn't hear you |
| 02:42.29 | nessinha | photo renze |
| 02:42.33 | Ardonik | boxin: in the future, just test connectivity by sending a /msg to yourself. |
| 02:42.36 | Renze | nessinha: get bent, loser |
| 02:42.38 | canllaith | Um |
| 02:42.45 | canllaith | Why is that person saying they love you Renze ? |
| 02:42.51 | Renze | canllaith: I have no idea |
| 02:42.55 | boxin | ?? |
| 02:42.59 | qupada | it's more like "me love you long time" |
| 02:43.01 | boxin | Ardonik |
| 02:43.03 | canllaith | and as usual the ban list is full |
| 02:43.09 | Renze | I don't have $5 |
| 02:43.09 | Ardonik | canllaith: he's been here before. Evidently he insists that Renze can speak Portuguese. |
| 02:43.16 | boxin | is any one can see my msg? |
| 02:43.18 | wmealing_ | maybe you fixed a bug for her/him |
| 02:43.21 | boxin | help me |
| 02:43.23 | wmealing_ | boxin, yes.. damnit.. |
| 02:43.29 | Renze | boxin: we're kidding! |
| 02:43.38 | boxin | thanks |
| 02:43.45 | Ardonik | Zomg, boxin, you actually believed me when I said "no?" |
| 02:43.49 | boxin | this my first time to come here |
| 02:43.52 | *** mode/#kde [-b %*!adiddy@*.adelphia.net] by canllaith |
| 02:43.55 | *** mode/#kde [+b %nessinha!*@*] by canllaith |
| 02:44.02 | canllaith | Sorry I didn't notice that earlier Renze |
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| 02:44.07 | Ardonik | canllaith: he'll change his name. |
| 02:44.08 | Renze | oh no! don't unban adiddy! |
| 02:44.10 | boxin | maybe i thought you are computer |
| 02:44.19 | Ykstort`KDE | now time to try Konsole! |
| 02:44.21 | Ykstort`KDE | hrhr |
| 02:44.29 | canllaith | Renze: oh? |
| 02:44.36 | boxin | who you font color is red? |
| 02:44.39 | Renze | adiddy is the biggest troll I have ever encountered |
| 02:44.39 | boxin | i can't |
| 02:44.40 | Ardonik | boxin: what you asked is akin to saying "If you can't hear me, yell once" in a crowd |
| 02:44.42 | canllaith | Probably is the ban list has only a finite number of places :( |
| 02:44.49 | canllaith | So I kinda have to recycle the slots eventually |
| 02:44.52 | Renze | yeah, that's a drawback of IRC |
| 02:45.03 | canllaith | s/Probably/problem/ |
| 02:45.18 | wmealing_ | Trolls are an important part of every community |
| 02:45.24 | wmealing_ | you are doing something right when you get trolls. |
| 02:45.25 | boxin | i'a a new gay, my english is not very well |
| 02:45.29 | canllaith | No, no they're not. |
| 02:45.39 | wmealing_ | You still have to deal with them, dont get me wrong. |
| 02:45.40 | canllaith | I can free up more room on that ban list for cheeky people, don't you think I can't ;) :P |
| 02:45.54 | boxin | haha why i am so late to come here, here is a fantastic place |
| 02:46.04 | Ykstort`KDE | Does KDE close windows when you alt+f4 ? |
| 02:46.15 | Renze | boxin: IRC has been around since 1991... what took you so long? :) |
| 02:46.16 | hydrogen | ctrl-q |
| 02:46.20 | AegeanLinux | yes - but depends on settings |
| 02:46.21 | hydrogen | i don't think it deals with alt-f4 |
| 02:46.28 | Ykstort`KDE | 'k |
| 02:46.32 | wmealing_ | canllaith, If you banned me, I wouldnt be _too_ upset.... although I dont think my comment was.. that bad. |
| 02:46.42 | boxin | this is my first time to use Linux |
| 02:46.44 | boxin | hehe |
| 02:46.49 | AegeanLinux | boxin: congrats |
| 02:46.57 | AegeanLinux | Renze: actually 1990 :P |
| 02:47.00 | canllaith | wmealing_: I'm just kidding around |
| 02:47.03 | wmealing_ | ah ok |
| 02:47.03 | Renze | close enough |
| 02:47.13 | Ykstort`KDE | omg I just realised |
| 02:47.17 | Renze | AegeanLinux: I've been using it since 1992 :D |
| 02:47.17 | AegeanLinux | yeah ? |
| 02:47.19 | Ykstort`KDE | it is september |
| 02:47.26 | Ykstort`KDE | almost a year since I first used Linux! |
| 02:47.38 | AegeanLinux | It's that special day too . Lest we forget. |
| 02:47.40 | Renze | Ykstort`KDE: well over 7½ years for me |
| 02:47.45 | Ykstort`KDE | lol |
| 02:47.49 | Renze | January 1999 |
| 02:48.02 | Renze | AegeanLinux: I forgot :D |
| 02:48.07 | Ykstort`KDE | Linux is fun |
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| 02:48.08 | Ykstort`KDE | :D |
| 02:48.14 | canllaith | 1997. |
| 02:48.19 | AegeanLinux | Renze: __HOW__ could you forget ? |
| 02:48.21 | boxin | why i can't send private msg? |
| 02:48.26 | Renze | AegeanLinux: I'm kidding! |
| 02:48.32 | AegeanLinux | boxin: you have to register with nickserv ? |
| 02:48.37 | hydrogen | now, XGL is fun |
| 02:48.37 | AegeanLinux | * i mean nickserv ! |
| 02:48.38 | Renze | boxin: because you're not registered |
| 02:48.47 | hydrogen | i can sit here for hours spinning my desktop in circles |
| 02:48.53 | Ardonik | boxin: /msg NickServ help |
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| 02:48.57 | Ykstort`KDE | rofl hydrogen |
| 02:48.58 | AegeanLinux | lol @ hydrogen |
| 02:49.02 | Ardonik | And I believe http://www.freenode.net has an FAQ. |
| 02:49.11 | boxin | how to |
| 02:49.12 | hydrogen | the bad part is, i'm serious |
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| 02:49.18 | hydrogen | I have no clue what is useful about xgl |
| 02:49.19 | hydrogen | but its fun! |
| 02:49.22 | AegeanLinux | And I believe I can touch the sky |
| 02:49.23 | boxin | does is need pay? |
| 02:49.30 | Renze | boxin: no, it's free |
| 02:49.31 | AegeanLinux | boxin: no |
| 02:49.31 | canllaith | boxin: no, it is free |
| 02:49.46 | hydrogen | or this awesome rain plugin |
| 02:49.48 | boxin | OK, let me try |
| 02:49.54 | hydrogen | wtf use is it to see it raining on my desktop? |
| 02:49.54 | Renze | all good things in life are free... or at least they should be |
| 02:50.06 | hydrogen | or when you're bored... just turn on slowmo |
| 02:50.11 | AegeanLinux | except for Chocolate |
| 02:50.24 | Renze | chocolate is one of those "should be's" |
| 02:50.29 | AegeanLinux | If only I could get that for free. |
| 02:51.10 | boxin | are you chinese? |
| 02:51.13 | Renze | no |
| 02:51.22 | straw | if chocolate were free we'd all be fat and toothless :p |
| 02:51.44 | Renze | straw: what if it was calorie free? |
| 02:52.06 | straw | then it's not chocolate... |
| 02:52.09 | Renze | true |
| 02:52.19 | Renze | it'd be... carob... or something |
| 02:52.21 | boxin | haha, i want to make friends with gays speek english for a long time. now i got it |
| 02:52.35 | Renze | boxin: "guys", not "gays" :D |
| 02:52.58 | boxin | haha thanks , you will see more. |
| 02:53.11 | Renze | I just saved you from getting beaten up :D |
| 02:53.37 | boxin | gays seem like is a not good word, isn't it? |
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| 02:54.06 | Renze | boxin: "gay" means that the person prefers the company of the same sex, if you know what I mean ;) |
| 02:54.06 | Ardonik | boxin: um, welcome to the internet. |
| 02:54.20 | mr_daemon | Heyo I have a problem. the audiocd:/ kioslave keeps querying what seems to be a rather crappy cddb server, which keeps identifying my CDs wrong... is there a way to change the cddb server used by KDE in general, or just edit the darned tracks myself...? For some reason the cddb entry no longer is in the control panel for "Audio and multimedia" |
| 02:56.13 | boxin | i used to use window, you know there are some of software can help me to read english, but with Linux, some word i didn't understand, how can i do? |
| 02:56.34 | boxin | how to registe |
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| 02:57.09 | Ardonik | boxin: once again, /msg NickServ help |
| 02:57.30 | boxin | thanks got it |
| 02:58.38 | boxin | thanks guys, i made it |
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| 03:24.26 | njdube | I have some videos I'd like to share with everyone. My ass will probably end up in some secret CIA prison for this... "http://digg.com/offbeat_news/Home_Made_Video_of_US_Soldiers_in_Iraq" |
| 03:25.45 | Renze | njdube: I hope you like Guantanamo Bay :) |
| 03:25.46 | hydrogen | that has nothing to do with #kde |
| 03:25.57 | hydrogen | may I suggest ##offtopic |
| 03:31.56 | AegeanLinux | njdube: stop promoting your own videos |
| 03:32.02 | AegeanLinux | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:32.47 | njdube | They aren't mine, I was never in Iraq. |
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| 03:33.17 | AegeanLinux | You posted that digg :) |
| 03:33.39 | AegeanLinux | ==> submitted by njdube 39 minutes ago |
| 03:33.54 | njdube | I posted it, I was just saying I didn't "record" the videos my self. |
| 03:34.06 | njdube | I got them off some one who did though. |
| 03:34.08 | AegeanLinux | whatev. |
| 03:34.32 | AegeanLinux | I don't think it is a respectable day to post that sort of poop anyways, |
| 03:34.57 | njdube | Respectable day? |
| 03:35.08 | AegeanLinux | 11/9/2006 <== |
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| 03:36.07 | njdube | I live in the US Central standard time. So it's 9/10 for me. |
| 03:36.28 | AegeanLinux | I am going to go watch a movie and chill for an hour or two. Later all! |
| 03:36.40 | njdube | Bye. |
| 03:36.43 | njdube | What movie? |
| 03:36.57 | mokkan | backyard babes 5 |
| 03:37.08 | njdube | Sounds like a porno. |
| 03:37.09 | AegeanLinux | Grand theft Anal 3 |
| 03:37.27 | AegeanLinux | ^^ __that__ sounds like ... |
| 03:37.47 | AegeanLinux | and A quick google gave me this LMAO! http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0410041/ |
| 03:37.55 | mokkan | omfg |
| 03:37.59 | mokkan | lol |
| 03:38.05 | AegeanLinux | lol |
| 03:38.19 | njdube | Give me a minute, I'm using a 10 year old computer. |
| 03:38.38 | njdube | Oh, Good God! |
| 03:39.04 | AegeanLinux | Company Credits :: http://www.ztvideo.com/ |
| 03:39.10 | hydrogen | yea, that was one of the better movies i've been in |
| 03:39.24 | AegeanLinux | hey ? |
| 03:40.26 | njdube | Yeah? |
| 03:40.44 | mokkan | hahaha |
| 03:40.50 | mokkan | this whole playing off eachother thing is great |
| 03:41.13 | mokkan | anyway, enjoy, carry on |
| 03:41.53 | njdube | Make sure to read the label on your motion lotion. You don't want to get it mixed up with the crazy glue. ;) |
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| 05:15.38 | AegeanLinux | I am back |
| 05:19.13 | kendrick | thanks for sharing |
| 05:19.14 | kendrick | ;D |
| 05:20.41 | AegeanLinux | Thats perfectly OK |
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| 05:21.19 | Renze | I am side |
| 05:22.08 | Ardonik | I am center, and back as well |
| 05:22.16 | AegeanLinux | I was going to type `don't you mean "I am front" Renze`, but that now sounds wrong |
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| 05:22.52 | Renze | hehe ;) |
| 05:23.18 | AegeanLinux | Poor mi9 |
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| 05:28.05 | Shirakawasuna | how much ram is X taking up for you guys? |
| 05:28.18 | Shirakawasuna | preferably the gentooers out there |
| 05:28.52 | Renze | 17.6%, but I blame crappy fglrx |
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| 05:30.46 | Ardonik | 9.9% here. No acceleration whatsoever. |
| 05:30.57 | Ardonik | I'm running at least three X servers right now; this is just :0. |
| 05:31.07 | Shirakawasuna | %? :) |
| 05:31.12 | Shirakawasuna | where are you getting your numbers? |
| 05:31.17 | Renze | top |
| 05:31.22 | Ardonik | ps fax or top. |
| 05:31.28 | Shirakawasuna | ah |
| 05:31.36 | Shirakawasuna | I use the VIRT value |
| 05:31.38 | AegeanLinux | --> 7.7% |
| 05:31.54 | Shirakawasuna | % depends entirely on your ram - what VIRT values do you have? |
| 05:32.26 | AegeanLinux | 1024 MB RAM |
| 05:32.29 | Renze | where do I find VIRT? |
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| 05:32.50 | Renze | ah, never mind |
| 05:32.55 | Shirakawasuna | if you go to top and then < twice you can see the values ranked by VIRT |
| 05:33.02 | Renze | VIRT 122m, but I still blame crappy fglrx |
| 05:33.26 | Shirakawasuna | actually 4 times |
| 05:33.28 | qupada | VIRT 69.2M here |
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| 05:34.43 | AegeanLinux | Vert 92168 here |
| 05:34.49 | Shirakawasuna | mine 300 |
| 05:34.51 | Shirakawasuna | wtf |
| 05:36.15 | Shirakawasuna | wait |
| 05:36.22 | Shirakawasuna | I think res may be the important value...hrm :) |
| 05:36.36 | qupada | you mean RSS ? |
| 05:36.47 | qupada | oh no, top has one called RES |
| 05:36.56 | Shirakawasuna | ah, VIRT= SWAP + RES |
| 05:37.13 | Renze | RES=94m |
| 05:37.45 | qupada | RES=30MB |
| 05:38.09 | Shirakawasuna | RES=39 for me |
| 05:38.10 | Shirakawasuna | not so bad |
| 05:38.18 | Shirakawasuna | i guess it's doing a lot to the SWAP value for me, though |
| 05:38.19 | Shirakawasuna | wonder why |
| 05:39.17 | qupada | i assume you have just tried control-alt-backspacing it and trying again? usually when something has chewed though a massive hunk of memory i find that's the quickest way to stop the system running annoyingly slow |
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| 05:46.31 | Shirakawasuna | I logged out and did killall -9 X |
| 05:46.51 | Shirakawasuna | it cut my ram useage about in half :) |
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| 05:47.12 | Shirakawasuna | this was before I asked in here, though....so it was even larger before |
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| 06:27.41 | kakei | scast: are u there_ |
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| 06:29.19 | kakei | hello when i log in on KDM and start kde the loading screen doesnt move from initializing system services :| |
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| 06:31.34 | kakei | any idea? |
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| 06:31.52 | Renze | kakei: check your ~/.xsession-errors file |
| 06:32.21 | kakei | ksycoca database corruption |
| 06:32.25 | kakei | :o |
| 06:32.54 | Renze | try running 'kbuildsycoca --noincremental' as user |
| 06:33.02 | Renze | that will rebuild the whole thing |
| 06:33.32 | kakei | hmm |
| 06:33.36 | kakei | now what |
| 06:33.43 | Renze | now try logging in again |
| 06:34.18 | kakei | oh..thx Renze |
| 06:34.23 | kakei | can u explain to me |
| 06:34.26 | kakei | what happend? |
| 06:34.42 | kakei | or why this happen |
| 06:34.55 | kakei | wait im on irssi brb |
| 06:34.56 | Renze | somehow your kde system configuration cache was corrupted... I could not tell you how or why without a LOT more information |
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| 06:37.43 | mustasj | Guessing I'm not the only one having problems renderings slashdot.org? |
| 06:38.13 | Renze | mustasj: looks fine to me |
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| 06:39.50 | mustasj | Renze: strange, I get a error Can't find variable : Class ... Maybe it's just my java script not playing along |
| 06:39.57 | Renze | possibly |
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| 06:48.48 | flaccid | sound works in kde without the kde sound system right? |
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| 06:49.23 | Renze | if you set an external player for system notifications, yes |
| 06:49.30 | Renze | I haven't used arts in years |
| 06:49.40 | kucrut | Renze: ... |
| 06:49.46 | Renze | kucrut: ... |
| 06:50.09 | flaccid | so what is the purpose of the kde sound system |
| 06:50.51 | Renze | it's legacy software from when most soundcards couldn't mix streams in hardware (most onboard crap chipsets still can't) |
| 06:51.58 | flaccid | ok |
| 06:52.03 | flaccid | i just find it locks up |
| 06:52.04 | Renze | flaccid: it'll be gone in KDE4 |
| 06:52.08 | flaccid | even under full duplex |
| 06:52.10 | flaccid | ah ok cool |
| 06:52.18 | Renze | flaccid: that's why I stopped using it years ago |
| 06:52.22 | flaccid | true |
| 06:52.28 | flaccid | you mean locks the soundcard right? |
| 06:52.45 | Renze | no, it ate 100% CPU and made my PC unusable |
| 06:52.58 | flaccid | ah i think i've witnessed that too |
| 06:53.25 | Renze | artsd is the largest, steaming, freshly laid turd since Gnome |
| 06:53.39 | kucrut | hahah |
| 06:53.57 | kucrut | Gnome != turd :P |
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| 06:54.49 | flaccid | i agree |
| 06:56.21 | flaccid | atm i don't know if its the software i'm trying, the soundcard or kde or what |
| 06:56.23 | flaccid | that is the issue |
| 06:56.38 | flaccid | trying to get a source client to go for icecast |
| 06:58.34 | Shirakawasuna | so does the 0.9.2 mplayer have a better interface |
| 06:58.35 | Shirakawasuna | ? |
| 06:58.51 | AegeanLinux | plus arts is no longer heavily maintained any more am I correct Renze ? |
| 06:59.03 | Renze | people use the mplayer interface when there is kmplayer? :D |
| 06:59.11 | Renze | AegeanLinux: not for a looooooong time |
| 06:59.19 | Shirakawasuna | whoops |
| 06:59.21 | Shirakawasuna | I mean kmplayer |
| 06:59.28 | Shirakawasuna | the k got away from me:) |
| 06:59.43 | Renze | Shirakawasuna: they don't change the interface as often as the kaffeine people do :D |
| 06:59.58 | Shirakawasuna | hehe |
| 07:00.20 | AegeanLinux | I like interface changes |
| 07:00.35 | Renze | but a new one every version?!? |
| 07:00.36 | Shirakawasuna | I'd like it if kmplayer would just use simple kde-style buttons, etc |
| 07:00.37 | AegeanLinux | although I much rather Codeine :) |
| 07:00.50 | AegeanLinux | Renze: You're over stating it :) |
| 07:00.53 | flaccid | i'd rather ketamine |
| 07:01.08 | Renze | I prefer codeine too |
| 07:01.18 | AegeanLinux | ketamine ? I think there is something missing in my repo .... |
| 07:01.40 | Shirakawasuna | 1.1.2 = kablooey for gamma on my laptop |
| 07:02.32 | Renze | ditto |
| 07:02.54 | AegeanLinux | ==> There is no xine-lib 1.1.3 (?) [http://xinehq.de] |
| 07:03.42 | AegeanLinux | Renze: have you ever used oxine ? |
| 07:03.46 | AegeanLinux | http://oxine.sourceforge.net/ |
| 07:03.46 | Renze | no |
| 07:04.06 | Shirakawasuna | gentoo has a cvs version |
| 07:04.23 | AegeanLinux | Shirakawasuna: of xine ? |
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| 07:04.32 | AegeanLinux | or oxine ? |
| 07:04.54 | Shirakawasuna | xine-lib |
| 07:05.13 | AegeanLinux | meh. |
| 07:05.23 | AegeanLinux | Give me official releases minus KDE |
| 07:05.26 | Shirakawasuna | it's masked so I'm no ttouching it yet |
| 07:05.30 | AegeanLinux | and minux Koffice |
| 07:06.26 | Renze | brb... gotta find something for dinner |
| 07:06.36 | AegeanLinux | kk. |
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| 07:09.14 | morris | can anyone help me figure out why theres nothing in kmenu and kcontrol? |
| 07:09.20 | morris | http://ps2zfrance.free.fr/snapshot1.png |
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| 07:10.22 | Shirakawasuna | scary |
| 07:10.31 | Shirakawasuna | for kmenu I'd say kbuildsycoca but not sure about the kcontrol thing |
| 07:10.36 | Shirakawasuna | perhaps you need to reinstall it |
| 07:11.05 | morris | kbuildsycoca running... |
| 07:11.05 | morris | Reusing existing ksycoca |
| 07:11.05 | morris | kbuildsycoca: WARNING: Load error () |
| 07:11.05 | morris | kbuildsycoca: WARNING: 'ark_part.desktop' specifies undefined mimetype/servicetype 'application/x-tbz2' |
| 07:11.09 | morris | I get a bunch of that |
| 07:11.28 | morris | god I really dont wanna compile for another 12 hours |
| 07:11.44 | AegeanLinux | morris: are did you compile in VMware ? |
| 07:11.54 | AegeanLinux | s/are // |
| 07:12.03 | morris | actually I think I may have |
| 07:12.22 | AegeanLinux | VMware builds brake KDE sometimes. |
| 07:12.24 | morris | you mean in xorg right? |
| 07:12.28 | AegeanLinux | no. |
| 07:12.33 | morris | oh |
| 07:12.36 | AegeanLinux | nothing to do with xorg |
| 07:12.40 | morris | then I suppose not |
| 07:12.40 | AegeanLinux | www.vmware.com |
| 07:12.47 | AegeanLinux | its an emulator. |
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| 07:12.58 | morris | ya I know |
| 07:13.05 | morris | no I didnt use it |
| 07:13.12 | AegeanLinux | strange. |
| 07:13.13 | morris | I did install the xorg driver though |
| 07:13.29 | AegeanLinux | that has _nothing_ to do with it. |
| 07:13.32 | morris | ok |
| 07:13.52 | Shirakawasuna | which distro? |
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| 07:13.57 | morris | LFS/BLFS |
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| 07:15.36 | Shirakawasuna | scary :) |
| 07:16.00 | Shirakawasuna | I'm guessing it's user error |
| 07:16.24 | morris | ya but what error |
| 07:17.13 | morris | http://lists.kde.org/?t=107135312300003&r=1&w=2 |
| 07:17.33 | morris | thats the only reference I've found to this problem |
| 07:18.15 | scast | maybe you deleted .desktop files? |
| 07:18.52 | morris | no |
| 07:19.13 | Renze | missing env variables? like the XDG ones? |
| 07:19.32 | morris | nope |
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| 07:19.47 | morris | XDG_DATA_DIRS=/usr/share:/opt/kde-3.5.4/share |
| 07:19.47 | morris | XDG_CONFIG_DIRS=/usr/share:/opt/kde-3.5.4/xdg |
| 07:19.47 | morris | export XDG_DATA_DIRS XDG_CONFIG_DIRS |
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| 07:22.40 | morris | update-desktop-database -v |
| 07:22.40 | morris | Search path is now: [/usr/share/applications, /opt/kde-3.5.4/share/applications] |
| 07:22.40 | morris | File '/usr/share/applications/gnome-screensaver-properties.desktop' lacks MimeType key |
| 07:22.40 | morris | File '/usr/share/applications/nvidia-settings.desktop' lacks MimeType key |
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| 07:22.46 | morris | gives me a bunch of that |
| 07:22.58 | morris | whatever that means |
| 07:24.07 | kucrut | usually kbuildsycoca --noincremental fixes that, iirc |
| 07:25.43 | morris | kbuildsycoca running... |
| 07:25.44 | morris | kbuildsycoca: WARNING: Load error () |
| 07:25.50 | morris | with a bunch of warnings |
| 07:26.24 | morris | desktop-file-validate /opt/kde-3.5.4/share/applications/kde/lanbrowser.desktop |
| 07:26.24 | morris | /opt/kde-3.5.4/share/applications/kde/lanbrowser.desktop: warning: file contains key "Keywords", this key is currently reserved for use within KDE, and should in the future KDE releases be prefixed by "X-" |
| 07:26.28 | morris | does that mean anything? |
| 07:28.45 | Renze | warnings can be safely ignored |
| 07:28.56 | Renze | errors are important |
| 07:29.20 | morris | ya but WARNING: Load error () doesnt sound good |
| 07:30.01 | morris | should I restart kde after kbuildsycoca --noincremental ? |
| 07:30.04 | Renze | if it was ERROR: no database found, it would be worse |
| 07:30.16 | Renze | usually you don't need to |
| 07:30.21 | morris | didnt think so |
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| 07:32.18 | morris | http://lists.kde.org/?l=kde&m=107135338621361&w=2 |
| 07:32.34 | morris | anyone know what he's talking about when he says "remove portions of .kde"? |
| 07:34.59 | Renze | morris: having never experienced your particular problem, I wouldn't even know where to start guessing which parts to move |
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| 07:35.13 | Wulf4 | hi |
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| 07:35.54 | morris | I've blown .kde away a couple times and it just ends up the same |
| 07:36.18 | vinboy | how do I enable the right-click on Konqueror to share folder thru Samba? |
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| 07:37.52 | morris | where are kde startup logs held?? |
| 07:37.57 | Wulf4 | how can I remove the frame around my konsole window? |
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| 07:38.49 | Renze | morris: /var/log/messages, ~/.xsession-errors |
| 07:38.51 | morris | right click border then advanced/noborder |
| 07:40.43 | Wulf4 | morris: it's not clickable |
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| 07:44.39 | Wulf4 | morris: http://wulf.eu.org/screen.png |
| 07:44.43 | morris | just click the icon on the top left corner |
| 07:45.06 | morris | I dont even have an .xsession-errors file |
| 07:48.51 | morris | Wulf4 are you wanting the border back? |
| 07:49.48 | Wulf4 | morris: dunno. does it make this border disappear? |
| 07:49.57 | morris | you have no border |
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| 07:51.36 | Wulf4 | morris: there *is* a border |
| 07:51.48 | morris | well I dont see it |
| 07:52.03 | morris | or I just dont understand what you mean |
| 07:53.53 | morris | your talking about window decorations right? |
| 07:54.05 | Wulf4 | maybe.. |
| 07:54.22 | Wulf4 | but I don't think my window manager draws it |
| 07:54.54 | morris | are you saying that you want it to? |
| 07:55.27 | Wulf4 | no. I don't want any border |
| 07:56.28 | morris | thats as good as it's gonna get |
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| 07:56.59 | morris | wait |
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| 07:57.09 | morris | do you mean the size of the window? |
| 07:57.42 | morris | you want that window to fill the whole screen? |
| 07:57.50 | Wulf4 | morris: yes |
| 07:57.55 | morris | ahh I see |
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| 07:58.08 | morris | you have to find the shortcut for maximise |
| 07:58.13 | morris | not sure what it is |
| 08:00.06 | morris | try alt+f3 and just click maximise |
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| 08:01.37 | morris | anyone have any idea wheres else I should ask about my kde problem? |
| 08:01.58 | Renze | #lfs ? |
| 08:02.27 | morris | I asked a question yesterday and got squat |
| 08:02.34 | morris | and noone is in blfs channel |
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| 08:03.26 | Wulf4 | morris: what's your problem? I joined after you asked |
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| 08:04.11 | morris | nothing is in my kmenu or kcontrol |
| 08:04.29 | morris | http://ps2zfrance.free.fr/snapshot1.png |
| 08:05.09 | morris | I recall a similar problem a couple years back when I forgot to install kdebindings but I know I have kdebindings |
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| 08:06.08 | morris | I really dont feel up to another 12+ hours of compiling only to be left with the same problem, which im sure would be the case |
| 08:06.30 | morris | I use LFS/BLFS |
| 08:06.39 | morris | everything built from source |
| 08:07.11 | Wulf4 | had this once too, but it creates too much work for almost no benefit |
| 08:07.42 | morris | you mean LFS? |
| 08:07.49 | Wulf4 | yes |
| 08:07.55 | morris | I love LFS |
| 08:08.02 | morris | a pain at first but a brezze later |
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| 08:08.26 | Wulf4 | having no package manager is always a pain |
| 08:08.26 | Renze | all built from source, but without the headaches |
| 08:08.36 | morris | Gentoo is ok |
| 08:08.58 | morris | ya but Gentoo always installed crap that I never even heard of during emerge |
| 08:09.09 | Renze | morris: mine didn't |
| 08:09.37 | Renze | morris: I set up my use flags right from the start |
| 08:09.49 | Renze | well, most of them anyway |
| 08:09.50 | morris | ya those use flags got on my nerves too |
| 08:09.58 | Renze | I find them really handy |
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| 08:12.18 | morris | theres are ways to handle package management in LFS but I was too lazy this time to set one up |
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| 08:16.53 | morris | where could I find some kde developers on irc? |
| 08:16.59 | Renze | #kde-devel |
| 08:17.02 | Renze | if they're awake |
| 08:17.17 | Renze | but it's not a coding issue causing this |
| 08:17.28 | morris | ya but maybe one of them has seen this before |
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| 08:44.05 | RockMan | ciao |
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| 08:55.21 | morris | finally works |
| 08:56.02 | grothesk | Which plugin do I need for sending pictures from gwenview by email? |
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| 09:02.19 | grothesk | *g* |
| 09:02.40 | grothesk | aseigo: Your help is very appreciated! |
| 09:02.59 | grothesk | But as in most casese: PEBCAK! |
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| 09:10.15 | feet | hello, running kubuntu edgy here. The KDE panel (kicker) could not load the main panel due to a problem with your installation.... i keep getting this when i try to run kicker. what can i do? thanks :) |
| 09:11.36 | Q-collective | (re)install kicker? |
| 09:12.03 | feet | dependency hell |
| 09:12.13 | feet | im saving that for a last resort at this point |
| 09:12.31 | Q-collective | get a decent distro :p |
| 09:12.43 | feet | i HAVE a decent distro ;) |
| 09:12.59 | thiago | feet: fix the dependency problems first. |
| 09:13.06 | Q-collective | a distro with dephell is hardly interesting, let alone decent |
| 09:13.12 | feet | it is fixed... |
| 09:13.14 | thiago | if your system is properly installed, reinstalling the same package shouldn't be a depdendency hell. |
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| 09:13.20 | feet | its not dependency hell in the usual sense |
| 09:13.35 | thiago | I agree: it's no dependency issue at all. |
| 09:13.36 | thiago | so just do it. |
| 09:13.43 | feet | its just that, if i got rid of kicker, id get rid of kdebase, and then to reinstall kicker, id have to install it ALL OVER AGAIN |
| 09:13.45 | tommyd3mdi | Hi! Anybody familiar with krdc? |
| 09:13.52 | feet | i dont want to install it ALL OVER AGAIN. i just want to fix kicker |
| 09:14.05 | thiago | feet: no one is telling you to get rid of kicker. |
| 09:14.11 | thiago | feet: reinstall the same package. |
| 09:14.46 | feet | fine, ill go find it on the package website .. blah |
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| 09:15.16 | thiago | though I don't think it'll solve... |
| 09:15.18 | tommyd3mdi | I have two monitors; as soon as I switch to fullscreen in krdc, the program uses both screens instead of just one (and the picture is centered, so I have one half screen left and the other half screen right....) |
| 09:15.29 | thiago | can you start Konqueror? |
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| 09:15.38 | thiago | tommyd3mdi: known problem. |
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| 09:15.45 | thiago | tommyd3mdi: don't use fullscreen. Enlarge the window. |
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| 09:15.54 | linuxfx | hi all |
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| 09:16.05 | linuxfx | tell me |
| 09:16.12 | thiago | linuxfx: tell you what? |
| 09:16.13 | linuxfx | I need your advice on something |
| 09:16.22 | Q-collective | ?? ask |
| 09:16.23 | tommyd3mdi | thiago: thanks... I guess I need to configure a lower res for the server then, because scrollbars appear then |
| 09:16.23 | DDB_ | q-collective: ask: Just ask your question. Do not ask to ask. If somebody is around and knows the answer, they will answer. We can't tell you if we can help until you ask. Be patient, some of us do actually do things besides IRC. |
| 09:16.32 | thiago | tommyd3mdi: enlarge even further. |
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| 09:17.27 | tommyd3mdi | thiago: doesn't work, it "sticks" with the normal width |
| 09:17.31 | chx | I am getting "Writing to kio_svn is not supported". Is there a remedy? |
| 09:17.34 | linuxfx | do you advice someone to mail a job resume by email or by posting it with mail delivery services like ups and dhl ? |
| 09:17.35 | tommyd3mdi | ...of one screen |
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| 09:18.05 | MetaMorfoziS | jóreggelt mindenkinek |
| 09:18.07 | thiago | tommyd3mdi: well, you can ask for a slightly smaller dimension than your screen width/height |
| 09:18.35 | tommyd3mdi | thiago: yep, I think I have to do so... thanks for your help! |
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| 09:19.05 | chx | MetaMorfoziS: jó reggelt neked is, de ez a csatorna jellemzően angol, OK? |
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| 09:22.39 | MetaMorfoziS | bocs, amsg volt 11 csatira |
| 09:22.43 | MetaMorfoziS | ebbol 3 angol |
| 09:22.49 | Renze | it's all greek to me |
| 09:22.52 | chx | MetaMorfoziS: please. change to English. Thanks. |
| 09:23.03 | MetaMorfoziS | sorry, it's an /amsg to 11 channels |
| 09:23.15 | chx | With that settled |
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| 09:23.27 | chx | Anyone with a KIO that can write to an SVN repo? |
| 09:23.42 | thiago | MetaMorfoziS: then don't do /amsg if it isn't on-topic for all channels :-) |
| 09:24.24 | MetaMorfoziS | ok, next time i amsg: "hi" it's multilangual |
| 09:24.29 | MetaMorfoziS | .) |
| 09:25.08 | chx | (hint. it's absolutely useless and often considered rude to welcome upon enter on every channel. some of them are high traffic.) |
| 09:26.11 | Q-collective | /amsg-- |
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| 09:42.51 | voicu | Hi, how can I stop KDE from adding other window managers' programs in its menu? |
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| 09:46.24 | voicu | hello, anybody here? |
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| 09:50.47 | rohanpm | Hello voicu |
| 09:50.59 | aseigo | voicu: didn't i already answer that in #kubuntu? |
| 09:51.13 | voicu | :) |
| 09:51.23 | voicu | i didn't find any file that says that |
| 09:51.43 | voicu | *does |
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| 10:28.19 | Siji | how can create a short cut of lang selector |
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| 10:33.05 | Reality-X | can anyone recomened a docker app simmilar to the OSX bar? |
| 10:33.20 | Renze | kxdocker... ksmoothdock... kooldock... just to name three |
| 10:33.37 | Siji | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:33.51 | Renze | Siji: no idea, I only speak one language |
| 10:34.09 | gribouille | in kamil, what is the difference between th 'inbox' and 'received' local folders ? |
| 10:34.28 | Reality-X | Renze, heh um ok, which do you like? |
| 10:34.35 | Renze | gribouille: I don't have a "received" folder |
| 10:34.46 | Renze | Reality-X: none of them... I don't copy other OSes for my desktop |
| 10:34.46 | Siji | <Renze: OK |
| 10:34.57 | Siji | anybody else have any idea |
| 10:35.05 | gribouille | Renze, what folders do you have ? |
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| 10:35.58 | Renze | gribouille: inbox, outbox, drafts, sent-mail, trash (and a few I made for my own use) |
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| 10:36.47 | gribouille | Renze, whet is the difference between outbox and sent-mail ? |
| 10:37.08 | Reality-X | um ok, not really going for the whole "copy" thing, i've been useing a karamba theme since before OSX, now i use Xgl so i need a docker app to display on all 4 cube faces |
| 10:37.18 | Renze | outbox is where mail that is queued to be sent later is stored... sent-mail is where a copy of everything I have sent is stored for reference |
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| 10:37.47 | Renze | Reality-X: then kxdocker will probably be what you want |
| 10:38.04 | Reality-X | k thx |
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| 10:38.19 | gribouille | Renze, do you know where the folders are located on the disk ? |
| 10:38.34 | Renze | gribouille: depends on your distro... mine are in ~/.kde/share/apps/kmail/mail/ |
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| 10:39.47 | Renze | gribouille: to find out, try this in konsole: cat .kde/share/config/kmailrc | grep -i ^folders= |
| 10:39.52 | gribouille | Renze, I don't have such a directory |
| 10:40.09 | Renze | gribouille: the above line will tell you where yours is |
| 10:40.18 | Renze | gribouille: like I said, it depends on your distro |
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| 10:40.51 | gribouille | Renze, ok, it's in $HOME/Mail. thanks for your help |
| 10:40.58 | Renze | no problem |
| 10:41.23 | KRF | why is my chat-font in kopete bigger than it should it be? i have sans serif 9 there, but it shows sans serif 10 i think, in xchat e.g. it is shown correctly |
| 10:41.54 | Renze | KRF: it's a quirk of khtml... set it to one size smaller than you actually want |
| 10:42.14 | KRF | but then it's real sans serif 8 |
| 10:42.15 | KRF | :> |
| 10:42.19 | KRF | that's the problem |
| 10:42.36 | KRF | other fonts work, but i quite like sans :) |
| 10:42.38 | Renze | weird... I set mine to DejaVu Sans 9, and I get DejaVu Sans 10 just like I want |
| 10:43.07 | Renze | feel free to report a bug on bugs.kde.org |
| 10:43.07 | KRF | do you get size 8? |
| 10:43.14 | Renze | I don't want size 8 |
| 10:43.30 | benJIman|work | it's not technically a bug |
| 10:43.41 | KRF | i don't want it, too. but just to test |
| 10:43.46 | benJIman|work | khtml assumes 96dpi as that's what web designers assume as that's what windows uses by default |
| 10:43.56 | Renze | ah |
| 10:43.58 | benJIman|work | if your X dpi is not 96dpi then the fonts will be wrong size in khtml |
| 10:44.03 | Renze | no wonder 9 turns into 10 for me |
| 10:44.10 | KRF | i have 75dpi :/ |
| 10:44.14 | benJIman|work | you can force your X dpi to 96dpi if you want |
| 10:44.20 | Renze | my monitor is 85dpi, so that's what I use |
| 10:44.20 | KRF | should i reconfigure X? |
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| 10:44.24 | benJIman|work | whether it is a good idea or not depends on what fonts you're using |
| 10:44.55 | KRF | ok, i will give it a try. thanks for help |
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| 10:51.44 | gribouille | in kmail, I have created a local account (type=maildir, folder=received), but received is not a folder |
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| 11:02.12 | gribouille | Renze, can you explain the configuration option "Send messages in outbox folder" in Settings/Accounts/Sending ? |
| 11:02.52 | Renze | what part don't you understand? it makes perfect sense to me |
| 11:03.26 | Renze | either you don't ever want mail sent automatically, or you want it sent on manual mail checks, or you want it sent on all mail checks |
| 11:03.57 | Renze | I rarely use this feature, as I tend to send mail immediately from the composer |
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| 11:04.27 | gribouille | Renze, because mail checks are about incoming mail |
| 11:04.52 | Renze | gribouille: yes, and if you're on dialup, you usually want your outgoing mail to be sent when you connect to get your incoming mail, yes? |
| 11:05.04 | Renze | I'm not on dialup of course |
| 11:05.05 | gribouille | Renze, right |
| 11:05.17 | Renze | then those options make sense, don't they? |
| 11:05.50 | Renze | of course, with the Default send method set to Send Now, you don't have to worry about it |
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| 11:07.26 | gribouille | Renze, yes they do |
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| 11:11.14 | gribouille | Renze, there just one thing I don't undedstand yet, it's the 'Pre-command' option in the "Modify Account" dialog |
| 11:12.27 | Renze | don't worry about it, it's just an option to run a command on the incoming mail before it is imported into your inbox. most people won't need it. |
| 11:12.50 | Renze | useful for virus checking, or whatever |
| 11:13.00 | gribouille | ok |
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| 11:15.06 | Renze | gribouille: if it matters, I'm not a kmail developer... I'm just a user like you. :) |
| 11:15.25 | gribouille | Renze, an expert user :-) |
| 11:15.28 | Mitja | I'm using KDE 3.5.4 on Debian Etch, and app tabs in the taskbar flicker on hover. How do I turn this off? |
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| 11:15.47 | Renze | I'm not an expert... I just play one on the Internet :D |
| 11:15.58 | Renze | flicker? |
| 11:16.15 | Renze | they don't flicker on kde 3.5.4 in gentoo |
| 11:16.27 | Mitja | Indeed, like refreshing themselves |
| 11:16.38 | Renze | Mitja: doesn't happen here |
| 11:16.41 | Mitja | only really quick |
| 11:16.50 | Renze | not at all here |
| 11:16.59 | Renze | only one refresh |
| 11:17.02 | Mitja | it happens here, any suggestions what to turn off? |
| 11:17.23 | Renze | Mitja: are you using Elegant, Classic, or For Transparency? |
| 11:17.38 | Mitja | Classic, on Transparent taskbar |
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| 11:18.08 | Renze | I'm using Elegant... no problems. I know there were some repaint issues with For Transparency, and they have been fixed in the upcoming 3.5.5 |
| 11:18.14 | gribouille | Renze, do you know if it's possible to move mail to a specified folder automatically once it's read ? |
| 11:18.42 | Renze | gribouille: set up a filter, maybe? it's not something I have investigated in depth |
| 11:18.58 | Renze | Mitja: I just tried Classic... no flickering |
| 11:19.17 | gribouille | Renze, ok, i'll investigate this option |
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| 11:20.01 | Mitja | They flicker only on mouse-over, but even that not always |
| 11:20.13 | Renze | I was testing with mouseover... no flicker at all |
| 11:20.56 | Mitja | I thought it was the style at first, but happens with others, too |
| 11:21.18 | Renze | Mitja: ask in #debian if they patched it for some reason |
| 11:22.01 | Renze | Mitja: so you're not using a style with button highlight animation? |
| 11:22.32 | Mitja | I hope that's not necessary, because I had the same installation yesterday and it didn't flicker. Then I reinstalled everything. |
| 11:22.49 | Renze | Mitja: all I can say is it doesn't happen in gentoo |
| 11:23.10 | Renze | anywho, time for this kiwi to hit the sack... |
| 11:23.18 | Renze | hasta mañana, y'all |
| 11:23.41 | Mitja | thanks, bye |
| 11:24.45 | Mitja | They just flicker once a cursor is over, not like all the time |
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| 12:05.11 | funky | hi ppl |
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| 12:52.31 | deitarion | Does anyone know if there are plans to integrate KDE 4 notifications with libnotify? I have several GTK+ apps (eg. Audacious) which use libnotify for notifications. |
| 12:56.06 | Ykstort`KDE_ | hrm |
| 12:56.31 | Ykstort`KDE_ | when I use gtk+ apps in KDE they use a really crappy default gtk+ theme or something |
| 12:57.02 | Ykstort`KDE_ | KDE is mainly QT but can I configure it to tell apps what gtk+ themes to use or something ? |
| 12:57.13 | mobtek | gtk-qt engine iirc |
| 12:57.16 | mobtek | google it :) |
| 12:57.21 | mobtek | sleep time |
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| 12:58.00 | funky | gtk-engines-qt |
| 12:58.21 | funky | you can use kde look&feel in gtk+ apps |
| 12:58.30 | Ykstort`KDE_ | har har sweet |
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| 13:03.42 | Ykstort`KDE_ | funky: how would I configure KDE to make gtk+ apps use teh qt gtk+ engine ? |
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| 13:04.07 | benJIman|work | Ykstort`KDE_: what distro? |
| 13:05.05 | Ykstort`KDE_ | I didn't think that mattered |
| 13:05.08 | Ykstort`KDE_ | But Gentoo |
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| 13:05.56 | funky | Ykstort`KDE_: use the kcontrol |
| 13:06.20 | Ykstort`KDE_ | settings->control center ? |
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| 13:07.00 | funky | yes, appearance and themes |
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| 13:07.49 | benJIman|work | Ykstort`KDE_: well it matters because different distros call the theme engine different things, and have different hacks to try and make it work, it's rather broken |
| 13:08.22 | funky | Ykstort`KDE_: I usee gentoo too, and it works great, the conf is where I said you, so dont worry |
| 13:10.15 | Ykstort`KDE_ | I like teh Keramik KDE theme |
| 13:10.18 | Ykstort`KDE_ | It is sexy :) |
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| 13:11.16 | Ykstort`KDE_ | It's nasty |
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| 13:22.48 | chrisben | howdy, might anyone have an idea what files to modify to change system-wide file associations? |
| 13:23.00 | chrisben | (for all users) |
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| 13:24.31 | Ykstort`KDE_ | probably ones that aren't in users' homedirs |
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| 13:25.24 | BlueG | I have recently been experiencing some instability with my kde desktop. Sometimes the numlock still works, but even then I can not kill X, swap to virtual terminal, or login remotely. I have also noticed the system seems to slow down with lots of processor usage without major apps running. I used ps -ely | less to try to locate the source, suspecting my new beagle installation. X and arts were both high on cpu usage, which I think is fairly n |
| 13:25.25 | BlueG | was surpised to find lots of cpu time going to kicker and knotify. Is this normal, or indicative of a problem? Any ideas on tracking down what is causing my system to hang? |
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| 13:57.17 | deitarion | chrisben: Do you mean system-wide association preference order, or system-wide association applications? |
| 13:57.29 | phealy | I'm using debian unstable, kde 3.5.4, and just had a question: with multi-key keyboard shortcuts, is there a limit to the number of sub-keys you can use? |
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| 13:58.19 | phealy | for example, I used ratpoison for a while, and got used to the screen-like command syntax. I've bound, in multi-key mode, ctrl+s 1-0 to switch to desktops 1-10 |
| 13:58.47 | phealy | I also bound ctrl+s,! to run command, but that doesn't work; it doesn't even show in the list that pops up when I hit ctrl+s |
| 13:58.49 | deitarion | (in order to avoid the "apps steal associations" problem that Windows has, application<->filetype mapping is system-wide and can be modified by apps, but the choice of which FOO-capable application actually opens FOO files is left up to the applications) |
| 13:59.57 | phealy | in the past I was using a really hacked up xbindkeys setup, where ctrl+s on one xbindkeys would open another with a different config file that would terminate after one keypress |
| 14:00.04 | phealy | but I'd rather do it through the control center if I can. |
| 14:00.12 | deitarion | System-wide application<->filetype mapping is stored in the .desktop files in /usr/share/applications, per-user mappings are in ~/.local and override system-wide settings, and I don't know if there is ANY system-wide default for the preference order settings. |
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| 14:06.55 | phealy | any help on multi-key keybindings? |
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| 14:33.29 | expose | Where does KDE save the information what geometry a window had when closed the last time? |
| 14:33.48 | expose | my problem is, firefox is screwed up, because i closed it un-maximized the last time. |
| 14:34.00 | expose | If i force it to maximize via the behaviour |
| 14:34.20 | expose | erm. via the window behaviour setting, popups and password-entry-screens are maximized also. |
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| 15:02.29 | chrismir | Is this a known issue, as I couldn't find any reference on the net about this |
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| 16:02.15 | BelialMkII | Would anyone know a cause for both of my sounds cards disapearing lol, When my system came up today, i have no /devdsp or /dev/dsp1, Running Fedora Core 5. Kinda lost :-/ |
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| 16:04.25 | annma | BelialMkII: did you upgrade something yesterday? |
| 16:04.48 | BelialMkII | Ran a yum update, but it rebooted fine between then and now |
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| 16:05.24 | pinotree | BelialMkII: it's a distro issue, kde has nothing to do if the audio devices are not created |
| 16:05.26 | Vegeta^ | Where/how can I disable systembip in KDE? |
| 16:05.45 | pinotree | BelialMkII: i suggest you asking in the #fedora channel |
| 16:06.18 | BelialMkII | I ahve asked, but havent had a response, Didnt want to go reapeating myself :-/ |
| 16:06.37 | BelialMkII | I was just asked why i had 2 cards, then i explained that and nothing |
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| 16:34.07 | pinotree | heyo tech9iner |
| 16:34.11 | tech9iner | ;] |
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| 16:37.31 | Sho_ | doo be doo be doo |
| 16:37.42 | anisfarhana | Sho_: singing ? |
| 16:37.54 | Sho_ | indeed :) |
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| 16:39.37 | tech9iner | lol Sho_ .. |
| 16:39.44 | tech9iner | fine form today are we? |
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| 16:40.10 | tech9iner | Sho_ bit of the days following release stresses n dust settled a bit ? |
| 16:40.26 | Sho_ | tech9iner: yup, I revel in lazyness |
| 16:40.36 | tech9iner | Sho_ i just svn'd up last nite. seems as always quite loverly here.. |
| 16:40.38 | tech9iner | hehe |
| 16:40.50 | tech9iner | oh btw Sho_ |
| 16:41.06 | tech9iner | Sho_ mate assured me I would love regex buddy via wine ;]] |
| 16:41.38 | tech9iner | Sho_ i was sharing me regex brain deaths an he claims i can least fool people into thinking I am a regex whore with said tool Wink;Wink ;] |
| 16:41.42 | Sho_ | tech9iner: Or you could use KDEs very own KRegExpEditor |
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| 16:42.01 | Sho_ | tech9iner: Which has the added advantage that it actually writes Qt regular expressions ;) |
| 16:42.08 | tech9iner | Sho_ that was mentioned too btw. he claimed the latter was more gui dep friendly than kde's version |
| 16:42.14 | tech9iner | ahhh |
| 16:42.17 | tech9iner | indeed |
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| 16:42.41 | tech9iner | glad i mentioned as usual then KnowledgeBase generous Sho_ hehe |
| 16:42.55 | tech9iner | i shall load it up then. an play play |
| 16:43.16 | tech9iner | ciao n thanks Sho_ .. |
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| 16:44.32 | dsafda | MSN server is not running, correct? |
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| 17:03.31 | MaNI | http://img180.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenja1.png |
| 17:03.48 | MaNI | can anyone replicate that in there konqueror? or suggest what might be causing it in mine and/or a way to fix it? |
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| 17:04.20 | nik | here it works fine :/ |
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| 17:04.46 | MaNI | I can browse like maybe 75% of sites fine and the rest do that |
| 17:04.46 | MaNI | ;/ |
| 17:05.07 | benJIman | http://bw.uwcs.co.uk/screenshots/konq-standardbank.png is how it looks here |
| 17:06.00 | MaNI | thanks, doesn't really help me though unless you want to do my banking for me |
| 17:06.01 | MaNI | :P |
| 17:06.14 | benJIman | just showing it wasn't a konqueror problem |
| 17:06.26 | benJIman | are other sites doing it too? |
| 17:06.28 | benJIman | what distro? |
| 17:06.41 | MaNI | gentoo |
| 17:06.42 | GraveDigger | hummm |
| 17:06.48 | MaNI | <MaNI> I can browse like maybe 75% of sites fine and the rest do that |
| 17:07.07 | MaNI | nobody else I know using gentoo has the problem though |
| 17:07.14 | GraveDigger | any chance to have them with kde3 already? |
| 17:07.47 | GraveDigger | (before kde4) |
| 17:08.01 | benJIman | I think the idea is to keep them fresh for kde4 |
| 17:08.06 | benJIman | there are plenty of good icon themese for kde3 |
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| 17:09.50 | n0dez | hi |
| 17:10.16 | n0dez | are there any kde4 ports or packages available for freebsd? |
| 17:14.06 | djbeenie | anyone use evolution? I just emerged it successfully, but I have red X icons for everything |
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| 17:14.32 | benJIman | evolution is nothing todo with kde |
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| 17:14.52 | djbeenie | oops sorry wrong channel |
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| 17:16.28 | GraveDigger | benJIman: hmmm.. i c |
| 17:16.59 | GraveDigger | but i still like them :) |
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| 17:17.11 | MaNI | so any suggestions on how to try fix the konqueror thing? ;/ |
| 17:17.25 | GraveDigger | n0dez: dude... there are no kde4 packages available at all.. no neither for bsd |
| 17:17.33 | GraveDigger | since kde4 doesnt even exist |
| 17:18.11 | n0dez | i mean the pre-pre-pre-pre-beta-alpha-beta-beta |
| 17:18.25 | GraveDigger | /* no comment */ |
| 17:18.30 | n0dez | i think itd 3.98 |
| 17:18.34 | n0dez | its |
| 17:18.42 | n0dez | kde4 exists |
| 17:18.45 | pinotree | no |
| 17:18.46 | GraveDigger | no |
| 17:18.59 | n0dez | i mean an early beta of kde4 exits |
| 17:19.00 | pinotree | it's only a snaphot of a development branch |
| 17:19.06 | pinotree | it's not a beta |
| 17:19.07 | n0dez | well thats it |
| 17:19.13 | n0dez | i meant that |
| 17:19.14 | n0dez | oops |
| 17:19.19 | GraveDigger | its not even a "preview" |
| 17:19.23 | n0dez | i know |
| 17:19.26 | GraveDigger | its for developers *ONLY* |
| 17:19.36 | GraveDigger | to see how stuff with kde4 is going to work |
| 17:19.36 | pinotree | unless you are a develop, it's quite unuseful |
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| 17:19.44 | GraveDigger | ^^ |
| 17:20.16 | n0dez | do you guys know if kde4 will include the new kmenu? |
| 17:20.37 | benJIman | you mean the suse menu? |
| 17:20.40 | n0dez | yeah |
| 17:21.03 | GraveDigger | *sigh* |
| 17:21.04 | benJIman | #it will include a different menu I should think, how close it will be to the suse menu we will see |
| 17:21.21 | GraveDigger | hopefully not ... i dont like this thing |
| 17:21.36 | benJIman | GraveDigger: it works very nicely, have you tried it? |
| 17:22.00 | benJIman | you can search for things by name/metadata and just hit enter to start them, no need for mousing |
| 17:22.13 | benJIman | so search for image editor and hit enter to start one for example |
| 17:26.00 | GraveDigger | yes i tried it ... and for whatever reason it crashed again and again each time i tried to switch those "tabs" |
| 17:26.00 | benJIman | works fine here |
| 17:26.01 | benJIman | what distro did you try it on? |
| 17:26.01 | crazy | maybe but is a bad 'winXP' clone lol that the first I've changed on every XP I've used |
| 17:26.01 | GraveDigger | benJIman: gentoo linux |
| 17:26.01 | crazy | does work fine even on other distros |
| 17:26.01 | benJIman | crazy: it's nothing like the XP menu |
| 17:26.01 | GraveDigger | i only have suse installed for building rpms |
| 17:26.01 | benJIman | GraveDigger: probably a bad build then |
| 17:26.01 | GraveDigger | maybe ... dunno |
| 17:26.02 | GraveDigger | let's see |
| 17:26.02 | benJIman | works fine here |
| 17:26.02 | crazy | blah I've hacked it in in Frugalwares KDE |
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| 17:26.02 | crazy | it is like the winXP menu |
| 17:26.02 | GraveDigger | if something like this is going to be implemented into KDE4 i am pretty sure, those devs will do a good job and give it both proper functionality *AND* usefulness |
| 17:26.02 | benJIman | the winxp menu is a nightmware to use without the mouse |
| 17:26.02 | crazy | well 'like' |
| 17:26.02 | benJIman | the suse menu is the easiest application method for launching apps with keyboard ever |
| 17:26.03 | crazy | for this get katapult :P you even don't need eny menu :) |
| 17:26.04 | crazy | *any |
| 17:26.04 | benJIman | crazy: catapult is nowhere near as useful |
| 17:26.04 | GraveDigger | the most often used shortcut ever on my computer here! |
| 17:26.04 | benJIman | crazy: the suse menu beagle searches metadata for the apps, you don't need to know what they're called etc |
| 17:26.05 | benJIman | you can launch things that arn't in the menu, arn't applications etc |
| 17:26.05 | benJIman | GraveDigger: the menu is far more powerful than that though |
| 17:26.05 | benJIman | which I used primariliy until this was available |
| 17:26.06 | benJIman | works same way, toggle menu, type, enter |
| 17:26.06 | GraveDigger | benJIman: sure, i dont doubt it... still i love the alt-f2 way |
| 17:26.06 | crazy | benJIman: _I_ o know this I have it here |
| 17:26.07 | crazy | *do |
| 17:26.08 | crazy | damn lag |
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| 17:26.15 | crazy | http://frugalware.homelinux.org/~crazy/kom.ogg |
| 17:26.58 | Shirakawasuna | benJIman: do you use kerry or built-in gnome stuff? |
| 17:27.09 | benJIman | I don't use either |
| 17:27.16 | Shirakawasuna | oh wait, I'm in #kde ;) |
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| 17:28.05 | crazy | this kickoff menu isn't bad but I don't really like it :P |
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| 17:28.23 | benJIman | can hardly be worse than the standard kmenu |
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| 17:34.02 | Myrizio | hi, we are looking for a new name for a kde project of a multi-game board (chess, shogi, etc). The current name is kboard, but we realized that a kboard project already exists for a web application. Any idea? |
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| 17:34.02 | thiago | I suggest you ask a more appropriate forum. |
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| 17:34.11 | Myrizio | thiago: what could be a more appropriate forum? |
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| 17:36.38 | thiago | ask the MWG, they will know how to direct you. |
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| 17:43.21 | mentro | how do i make my homepage the starting page in konqueror? |
| 17:43.21 | alsuren | it's in the view profiles |
| 17:43.22 | aseigo | mentro: under settings, "save view profile " and click the "include url" in the window that pops up |
| 17:43.22 | aseigo | Myrizio: ah, are you one of the authors of that canvas? |
| 17:43.22 | mentro | aseigo, tnx |
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| 17:43.23 | Myrizio | i am the author of kboard alternative canvas, yes |
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| 17:43.24 | aseigo | neat.. yeah, i read about it.. haven't looked at the docs for it yet... was a bit surprised to read about the "model/view" complaint, to be honest |
| 17:43.25 | aseigo | qgraphicsview can be a bit complex for certain things, but it's not the m/v that i find to be noticeable |
| 17:43.25 | dfjoerg | I want to debug the init code of a kio plugin, can I somehow force the kdeinit trick to go away? |
| 17:43.25 | aseigo | in fact, that's pretty well hidden =) |
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| 17:43.26 | Myrizio | aseigo: actually i created it because QGV was pretty buggy and slow |
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| 17:43.27 | Myrizio | but anyway, yesterday i just fixed a bad bug that could be the reason of QGV slowness :) |
| 17:43.27 | aseigo | dfjoerg: see kdebase/kioslave/DEBUG.howto for info on debugging a kioslave. |
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| 17:43.28 | aseigo | *punt* |
| 17:43.29 | Myrizio | in the qt painter, each time a brush created from a QImage had to be painted, the QImage was converted to a QPixmap a to a QImage again :) |
| 17:43.31 | aseigo | Myrizio: oh? what was that? |
| 17:43.34 | aseigo | ah.. =) |
| 17:43.41 | aseigo | ew. yeah, that's slow |
| 17:44.01 | Myrizio | yup :) |
| 17:44.05 | aseigo | Myrizio: was this in qgv itself, or qbrush, or your code? |
| 17:44.24 | Myrizio | in Qt 4.2 raster paint engine |
| 17:44.41 | aseigo | ick. i suppose you reported that? |
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| 17:44.43 | Myrizio | (i sent the fix to TT) |
| 17:44.45 | Myrizio | sure |
| 17:44.46 | aseigo | awesome =) |
| 17:45.19 | aseigo | and yeah, qgv being somewhat buggy prior to 4.2 final (and probably with bugs even afer that) is to be expected for something of that complexity that is 100% new |
| 17:45.30 | aseigo | anyways.. kboard. name. |
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| 17:45.52 | dfjoerg | aseigo: rofl. it doesn't seem to like that :-) |
| 17:46.30 | Myrizio | what? we like the kboard name, the problem is that a project with that name already exists :) |
| 17:46.48 | zhw | actually, it is called kboard-forum |
| 17:46.57 | zhw | at least, that's the sourceforge project name |
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| 17:47.28 | aseigo | kboard is not a gread name anyways. it doesn't actually say "this is a game" to me at all |
| 17:47.36 | aseigo | board is a bit generic. |
| 17:48.24 | zhw | aseigo: since it supports many different board games, we want to avoid direct references to chess |
| 17:48.35 | aseigo | of course. |
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| 17:49.31 | zhw | aseigo: anyway, I agree that kboard is not the most brilliant name one can find :) |
| 17:50.10 | aseigo | what's the project homepage? |
| 17:50.19 | zhw | kboard.sourceforge.net |
| 17:50.20 | Myrizio | but think about XBoard. the program is much more chess specific than what kboard will be :) |
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| 17:59.40 | LinuxCart | hello |
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| 18:00.16 | LinuxCart | where could I talk about the kde samba configuration utility |
| 18:00.17 | LinuxCart | ¿? |
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| 18:00.58 | pinotree | ?? ask |
| 18:00.59 | DDB_ | pinotree: ask: Just ask your question. Do not ask to ask. If somebody is around and knows the answer, they will answer. We can't tell you if we can help until you ask. Be patient, some of us do actually do things besides IRC. |
| 18:01.08 | pinotree | LinuxCart: ^ |
| 18:01.25 | Myrizio | aseigo: di you give a look at the sreenshots? they are a bit out of date, anyway :) |
| 18:01.41 | LinuxCart | I know there are more specialized kde channels and I didn't want to noise this one |
| 18:01.45 | LinuxCart | but there I go |
| 18:02.11 | LinuxCart | I think the samba configuration utility has included a very ugly configuration parameter into the smb.conf file |
| 18:02.26 | LinuxCart | and I wanted to know if this was a bug or just my fault |
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| 18:03.25 | aseigo | Myrizio: will you folks move to svg for the kde4 port? |
| 18:03.50 | Myrizio | for the artworks? we are alreay using svg + qt4 :) |
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| 18:05.03 | Myrizio | actually, the code that loads the theme is a quite powerful lua script interpreter that can load png,svg or even old classical ttf chess pieces |
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| 18:05.30 | Myrizio | aseigo: but the default theme that i have created is SVG :) |
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| 18:10.53 | MetaMorfoziS | hi all |
| 18:11.51 | aseigo | huh. gameboard ... no freshmeat or sourceforge projects with that name. with argv[0] aliases for kchessboard, kshogiboard, etc for easy launching of the specific game ... |
| 18:12.35 | Myrizio | aseigo: interesting, i will propose it to zhw :) |
| 18:13.26 | aseigo | heh.. apparently nobody has had the audacity to just name their game "gameboard".. heh. nice... "KDE Gameboard" .. sounds like "Microsoft Media Player" in that sense ;) |
| 18:13.29 | Myrizio | aseigo: BTW, we are also looking for a SVN repository because we are currenty using our old college server, and we would like not to use sf one |
| 18:13.44 | aseigo | Myrizio: say no more. let me get you the url. |
| 18:14.02 | aseigo | Myrizio: http://developer.kde.org/joining/applysvnaccount.php |
| 18:14.09 | Myrizio | aseigo: yup, you are very kind |
| 18:14.42 | MinceR | Kameboard :> |
| 18:14.42 | Myrizio | i think that something like kde "playground" will be ok :) |
| 18:14.44 | aseigo | Myrizio: you can then import your app either in kdereview or straight into kdeextragear (KEG) if its mature enough... ask helio, the KEG maintainer, if you feel it's mature enough to go straight into KEG |
| 18:14.49 | MinceR | playKround |
| 18:14.50 | aseigo | MinceR: ugh. |
| 18:15.15 | aseigo | kamekoark |
| 18:15.22 | aseigo | kakekoakk |
| 18:15.30 | aseigo | ta-dah! |
| 18:15.33 | Myrizio | aseigo: it is not that mature, but we are getting there :) |
| 18:15.42 | Myrizio | kkkkkkkkk :) |
| 18:15.51 | thiago | playground, then |
| 18:16.01 | MinceR | Myrizio: lol |
| 18:16.02 | aseigo | Myrizio: ok... then playground until you are ready to do a release... |
| 18:16.28 | Myrizio | ok, we are coming :) |
| 18:17.01 | aseigo | Myrizio: you also get use of kde's bugzilla this way and, if you want/net, we can provide you with mailing lists too. though you'd also be welcome to use kde-games-devel until you get too much traffic specific to your app and want your own |
| 18:17.07 | aseigo | s,net,need, |
| 18:17.54 | Myrizio | aseigo: actually for the ml we are already using sourceforge ml, it should be ok ATM |
| 18:18.22 | Myrizio | aseigo: the problem was SVN on sourceforge, because it is _very_ slow :) |
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| 18:39.31 | dli | can I block <marquee> in konqueror ? |
| 18:41.04 | thiago | no, whatever you mean by that question |
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| 18:42.46 | EmxBA | how do i enable knemo after it's installed? |
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| 18:43.11 | annma | type knemo in konsole |
| 18:43.42 | EmxBA | bash: knemo: command not found, annma |
| 18:43.51 | annma | how did you install it? |
| 18:43.58 | EmxBA | on pclinuxos |
| 18:44.02 | EmxBA | apt-get install knemo |
| 18:44.09 | EmxBA | 'cause i can't compile source |
| 18:44.27 | annma | can you list the files in that package with apt or something? |
| 18:44.41 | annma | i am not on debian-like so i don't know how |
| 18:45.08 | EmxBA | ah |
| 18:45.13 | annma | find a way to see what is the package knemo you installed and see if knemo is in your KDEDIR |
| 18:45.15 | EmxBA | it's installed, i can see it in kcontrol |
| 18:45.27 | EmxBA | but i don't know how to enable it |
| 18:45.29 | annma | so you can enable it |
| 18:45.34 | EmxBA | someone told me go to kcontrol blabla |
| 18:45.37 | EmxBA | i forgot, annma |
| 18:45.43 | annma | what is in kcontrol then? |
| 18:46.30 | EmxBA | erm, annma components, then service manager and then in the list i see load on demand services and startup services |
| 18:46.38 | EmxBA | knemo is not running |
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| 18:46.43 | annma | so start it |
| 18:46.48 | EmxBA | how? |
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| 18:46.55 | EmxBA | i can't click on it, annma |
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| 18:47.04 | annma | check the box |
| 18:47.26 | EmxBA | uh |
| 18:47.38 | annma | not sure what knemo is, to be frank |
| 18:47.49 | annma | it's not in kde official |
| 18:48.04 | EmxBA | boxes are in the startup services |
| 18:48.14 | EmxBA | knemo is in loadondemand |
| 18:48.18 | thiago | knemo is not a program. It's a kded module. |
| 18:48.21 | EmxBA | can i load it with command? |
| 18:48.26 | FreakCERS | Hi, I can't seem to find any documentation on this - I want to run a program that output's an "upper ascii" char (\223) and changing my bash settings doesn't do the trick - changing encoding in konsole does, however... - can I do that from the commandline? |
| 18:48.28 | EmxBA | thiago: how can i load it? |
| 18:50.31 | thiago | EmxBA: turn it on in the KDE Control Center |
| 18:50.36 | EmxBA | nevermind, i configured it :) thiago |
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| 18:50.46 | thiago | KDE Components, Service Manager |
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| 18:55.39 | GraveDigger | annma: knemo is iirc a Kde NEtwork MOnitor |
| 18:55.53 | annma | ok |
| 18:55.59 | annma | thanks |
| 18:56.10 | GraveDigger | u're welcome |
| 18:56.11 | GraveDigger | :) |
| 18:56.12 | annma | i thought it was a fish screensaver |
| 18:56.21 | annma | "Finding Nemo" |
| 18:56.23 | GraveDigger | lol |
| 18:56.30 | GraveDigger | lol |
| 18:56.35 | FreakCERS | knemo = http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=12956 |
| 18:56.40 | GraveDigger | u're not the first one thinking this way |
| 18:56.52 | annma | ;) |
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| 19:00.48 | FreakCERS | okay, I'll rephrase.. from inside of konsole, is there a way to change the encoding without using the GUI? |
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| 19:05.42 | Kyral | whoever wrote that transcoding script for AmaroK (so it can transcode songs on the fly to MP3 for iPod) I thank |
| 19:06.00 | Kyral | the only reason I have been keeping my songs in MP3 is because iPod needed them :P |
| 19:07.11 | Shirakawasuna | Kyral: wow, cool |
| 19:07.29 | Shirakawasuna | Kyral: on-the-fly as in as it loads to the iPod? |
| 19:07.37 | Shirakawasuna | Kyral: how long does it take? |
| 19:07.52 | Kyral | Shirakawasuna: I guess so there is an option in the config for IPod that only lights up when a Transcoding script is active |
| 19:08.05 | Kyral | Its like "Transcode to preferred format when.." |
| 19:08.33 | Kyral | Shirakawasuna: no idea |
| 19:08.52 | Kyral | but right now I'm gonna use SoundKonverter to transcode my MP3s into OGG :D |
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| 19:09.28 | Shirakawasuna | hehe |
| 19:09.37 | Shirakawasuna | mine are in mp3 as well for the same reason |
| 19:09.51 | Shirakawasuna | I keep a backup of flacs, though |
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| 19:10.00 | dusty_ | Hey guys I am running kubuntu, and whenever i have my speakers switched on and im typing in the console of KDE, and like a system sound is started, it repeats itself and keeps on going sounds awfull (sound is really messy) i can play music fine.. any ideas? |
| 19:11.40 | Kyral | Actually I can do a test... |
| 19:12.48 | Kyral | Its taking a while |
| 19:12.59 | Kyral | but thats to be expected what with transcoding it |
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| 19:18.45 | infignus | hi all |
| 19:19.25 | infignus | i have small problem - how i can update KDE - i have 3.4 and i have suse 10.0 someone help? |
| 19:19.40 | annma | maybe #suse can help |
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| 19:20.53 | Kyral | Heheh it works :D |
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| 19:22.45 | infignus | so? |
| 19:23.34 | Kyral | I'm just thrilled that I can finally ditch the chains of MP3 |
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| 19:24.32 | thiago | finally? |
| 19:24.54 | Kyral | Yah well I have an iPod and iPod != like Ogg |
| 19:26.27 | Kyral | So I can FINALLY convert my entire music to OGG |
| 19:26.30 | thiago | which is why I bought a player that supports Ogg Vorbis when I went looking for one |
| 19:26.56 | Kyral | Oh I didn't buy my Nano |
| 19:26.56 | Kyral | I won it in an IBM Contest :P |
| 19:26.56 | thiago | ah, that explains |
| 19:27.01 | thiago | you don't look at the teeth of gift horses |
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| 19:27.11 | Kyral | bingo |
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| 19:27.21 | Ace2007 | hi all |
| 19:27.32 | Ace2007 | KDE keeps saying >>> Feature only available with HAL |
| 19:27.40 | Ace2007 | but hal is one of my use flags |
| 19:27.49 | annma | hmm |
| 19:27.49 | Kyral | Gentoo is your problem :P |
| 19:27.50 | thiago | then ask #gentoo |
| 19:27.56 | Kyral | Do you have HAL running? |
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| 19:28.00 | Ace2007 | um... |
| 19:28.12 | annma | maybe yout hal version is too low |
| 19:28.14 | thiago | KDE works fine without HAL. And many distributions have it working fine with HAL too. |
| 19:28.25 | Kyral | Arch is happy |
| 19:28.43 | Ace2007 | I know but it can't mount anything without hal |
| 19:28.52 | Kyral | ..thats BS |
| 19:29.05 | Kyral | open a terminal and "mount /media/foo" |
| 19:29.17 | Kyral | (Assuming said mountpoint is defined in your fstab) |
| 19:29.21 | Ace2007 | well thats what kde said when i tried to unmount my pen drive in system:/media |
| 19:29.29 | Kyral | the KIOSlave |
| 19:29.31 | Ace2007 | the mount point is set to /mnt/pen |
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| 19:29.55 | Ace2007 | ok hald and dbus have started now |
| 19:29.56 | dfjoerg | is the behaviour of konqueror to use display squares when no local font is installed a bug? |
| 19:30.08 | dfjoerg | and if yes, for which component should it be reported? :-) |
| 19:30.12 | Kyral | dfjoerg: I think all things that display text do that |
| 19:30.17 | annma | dfjoerg: what would you expect ? |
| 19:30.25 | dfjoerg | annma: that is used the Xserver fonts? |
| 19:30.38 | dfjoerg | Kyral: no, Firefox segfaults |
| 19:30.43 | dfjoerg | Kyral: xterm works fine |
| 19:30.44 | Kyral | lol |
| 19:30.47 | dfjoerg | rxvt does as well |
| 19:30.47 | Kyral | I dunno |
| 19:30.53 | Kyral | I just install all the fontpacks :P |
| 19:31.29 | annma | dfjoerg: what locale is it? |
| 19:32.15 | dfjoerg | annma: C? |
| 19:32.30 | Sutoka | squares generally mean theres no glyph for that character in that font IIRC (if the locale is messed up it can cause it, along with other stuff) |
| 19:32.42 | dfjoerg | Sutoka: there is no *local* font |
| 19:32.47 | annma | what language, I mean, dfjoerg |
| 19:32.47 | Ace2007 | wouldn't installing lots of fonts slow down most office applications and make it hard to choose fonts? |
| 19:33.02 | dfjoerg | (local as in the sense of konqueror) |
| 19:33.03 | annma | not slow down |
| 19:33.19 | annma | dfjoerg: explain better |
| 19:33.24 | Ace2007 | why not slow down? |
| 19:33.24 | Sutoka | dfjoerg: well then everything would be squares i believe, which is most likely expected behavior in that situation |
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| 19:33.38 | Sutoka | Ace2007: there is a bug in freetype, but thats being worked on |
| 19:33.40 | dfjoerg | annma: I have a build system I wanted to debug a SSL issue on |
| 19:33.41 | Ace2007 | it has to go through a huge list of fonts |
| 19:33.51 | dfjoerg | annma: which just had kdelibs and kdebase installed |
| 19:34.03 | Ace2007 | and what about previewing the fonts |
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| 19:34.03 | dfjoerg | annma: + X11 forwarding set to my desktop |
| 19:34.04 | annma | if you want to display chinese for ex you need chinese fonts |
| 19:34.18 | annma | if not, konq displays squares |
| 19:34.21 | Sutoka | Ace2007: it only really had an impact on app load cause of what freetype would do to scan the fonts |
| 19:34.22 | dfjoerg | annma: konqui starts fine, but doesn't display anything sensible |
| 19:34.31 | annma | what distro? |
| 19:34.39 | dfjoerg | BSD |
| 19:34.41 | annma | your konq is not installed corretly! |
| 19:34.43 | Ace2007 | Sutoka: oh ok |
| 19:34.47 | dfjoerg | it is |
| 19:34.52 | dfjoerg | build from source |
| 19:34.54 | Sutoka | djbeenie: try installing a font? or use the XFontServer maybe? |
| 19:35.00 | annma | do you think we would ship a browser which would not display stuff? |
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| 19:35.25 | annma | in english your konq does not display characters? |
| 19:35.34 | dfjoerg | I think Qt or whatever doesn't fallback to traditional X11 fonts |
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| 19:35.50 | annma | what fonts would it use then??? |
| 19:35.59 | dfjoerg | whatever my X server knows? |
| 19:36.00 | Sutoka | djbeenie: is X11 setup with proper font paths? |
| 19:36.13 | dfjoerg | Sutoka: yes, but the X server is remote |
| 19:36.28 | dfjoerg | Sutoka: so fontconfig is no change to access the fonts directly |
| 19:36.39 | annma | dfjoerg: you have fonts on other apps? |
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| 19:36.46 | dfjoerg | annma: xterm works :-) |
| 19:36.47 | annma | on non-kde apps? |
| 19:36.55 | annma | and apart of that? |
| 19:36.57 | Sutoka | dfjoerg: xterm running remotely as well, right? |
| 19:37.03 | dfjoerg | Sutoka: sure |
| 19:37.29 | annma | running remotely or using a X remote? |
| 19:37.54 | dfjoerg | xterm is running on the same system as konqui with the same DISPLAY |
| 19:38.07 | annma | no other app to test? |
| 19:38.17 | annma | firefox? |
| 19:38.21 | dfjoerg | segfaults |
| 19:38.29 | annma | hnmm hmmm |
| 19:38.40 | annma | so it's not on;ly kde apps! |
| 19:38.47 | dfjoerg | compared to that KDE fails gracefully :-) |
| 19:38.56 | annma | when you compiled kde, it found the Xheaders OK? |
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| 19:39.02 | dfjoerg | sure |
| 19:39.12 | dfjoerg | as soon as a local font is present, it picks that one up |
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| 19:39.19 | Sutoka | annma: firefox may be segfaulting cause of the same font problem is my guess |
| 19:39.26 | annma | Sutoka: of course |
| 19:39.34 | dfjoerg | it doesn't find a font and doesn't handle that at all |
| 19:39.42 | simmerz | for some reason I can't open encrypted emails any more. when I go to the certificate manager within kmail, I get an error saying crypt plugin could not be initialised. |
| 19:39.45 | annma | dfjoerg: can you open kcontrol? |
| 19:39.51 | Sutoka | annma: oops you said 'not', im good at missing keywords that reverse the meaning of a sentence! |
| 19:39.59 | dfjoerg | should be possible, but have the same issue |
| 19:40.10 | annma | dfjoerg: look at the font section |
| 19:40.27 | annma | system administration |
| 19:40.31 | annma | font installer |
| 19:40.38 | annma | and get your fonts in your home |
| 19:40.48 | annma | should fix kde |
| 19:41.09 | dfjoerg | annma: it still doesn't fix the problem that Qt/KDE should fallback to non-fontconfig use :-) |
| 19:41.29 | annma | 1) does it fix the problem or not? |
| 19:41.44 | dfjoerg | installing a font in $HOME? sure |
| 19:41.48 | annma | 2) i am not sure how your system is set up |
| 19:42.14 | annma | if you make a bug rep[ort, be sure to include all the paths and explain very well what happens |
| 19:42.20 | annma | how youu compiled kde and all |
| 19:42.26 | annma | otherwise it would be useless |
| 19:42.48 | annma | sa\ying KDE should fall-back blah blah is a bit useless |
| 19:43.06 | dfjoerg | I'm not even sure whether it is kdecore or qt which is at fault here |
| 19:43.15 | annma | bugs reports needs precision so people can reproduce it |
| 19:43.29 | dfjoerg | I'm a developer myself, I know that :-) |
| 19:43.34 | annma | well what about firefox? |
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| 19:43.48 | dfjoerg | bug is still open |
| 19:44.00 | dfjoerg | from the 1.0 age |
| 19:44.21 | annma | you mean you found the same bug report? |
| 19:44.32 | annma | when unverified we don't close |
| 19:44.32 | Sutoka | it could be freetype doesn't give an error when theres no fonts and just falls back to squares |
| 19:45.00 | annma | is it your bug report or another one, dfjoerg ? |
| 19:45.02 | dfjoerg | Sutoka: fontconfig tells you if you have no match, not sure where the magic about squares only happens |
| 19:45.12 | annma | dfjoerg: I have trouble following you |
| 19:45.15 | dfjoerg | annma: sec, let me find it |
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| 19:46.03 | simmerz | what do i need to build to get crypto plugins loading again in kmail? do i just need to rebuild kmail? |
| 19:47.04 | dsafda | where can I set which daemon I want to start with KDE? |
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| 19:48.30 | dfjoerg | annma: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=312109 |
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| 19:49.02 | MaNI | http://img180.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenja1.png |
| 19:49.02 | annma | mozilla? |
| 19:49.09 | MaNI | anyone got any ideas why my konqueror is doing that? |
| 19:49.23 | annma | dfjoerg: I htought it was a kde bug! |
| 19:49.29 | annma | anyway i have to go |
| 19:50.00 | dfjoerg | annma: the same instructions can be used for konqueror |
| 19:50.09 | dfjoerg | annma: just that it displays only squares instead of segfaulting |
| 19:50.11 | annma | but no bug report yet for konq? |
| 19:50.16 | dfjoerg | yes |
| 19:50.22 | annma | yes or no? |
| 19:50.25 | annma | damn |
| 19:50.31 | dfjoerg | no bug report yet |
| 19:50.38 | annma | so never reported |
| 19:50.40 | dfjoerg | which is why I asked whether it is considered a bug :-) |
| 19:50.51 | dfjoerg | I just stumpled over it, I normally don't use KDE :-) |
| 19:50.54 | annma | a bug is what you think it is |
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| 19:51.07 | MaNI | hmm |
| 19:51.09 | annma | just nbe sure to be clearer than you are here |
| 19:51.11 | MaNI | I wonder if thats what im seeing |
| 19:51.30 | annma | we have devels with remote systems |
| 19:51.39 | dfjoerg | ok |
| 19:51.50 | annma | bye! |
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| 19:52.04 | dfjoerg | yeah, bye as well for me :-) |
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| 20:01.43 | MaNI | ahha |
| 20:02.17 | MaNI | seems it was just the selected encoding |
| 20:02.17 | MaNI | ;/ |
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| 20:10.17 | simmerz | I'm having major trouble with kmail. I can't for some reason open messages encrypted to me. It doesn't even give me a dialog to enter my passphrase. |
| 20:11.01 | PhilRod | can you encrypt messages you send? can you decrypt the incoming messages with gpg on the command line? |
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| 20:13.19 | simmerz | PhilRod: can encrypt messages I send, and can decrypt on the command line |
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| 20:18.10 | simmerz | guess that didn't help! |
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| 20:22.16 | krassnicy | hi folks |
| 20:22.20 | PhilRod | simmerz: I've got no more ideas, sorry |
| 20:22.22 | PhilRod | hi krassnicy |
| 20:22.43 | simmerz | PhilRod: thought so! im confused |
| 20:23.29 | krassnicy | i compiled my whole kde stuff new with gcc 4, now when i try to start either amarok or kile i get the error : "/usr/lib/gcc/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.4.6/libstdc++.so.6: version `CXXABI_1.3.1' not found (required by /usr/kde/3.5/lib/libkhtml.so.4". other kde apps like konqueror work. does anybody know how i can solve this problem? |
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| 20:25.43 | Sutoka | krassnicy: did you also recompile amarok and kile? |
| 20:26.16 | Ace2007 | So if an app i installed is not in world i have to recompile it myself? |
| 20:26.17 | krassnicy | YES |
| 20:26.20 | krassnicy | sorry, yes |
| 20:26.26 | krassnicy | f*** caps lock |
| 20:26.32 | Sutoka | Ace2007: on gentoo? |
| 20:26.36 | Ace2007 | yea |
| 20:26.44 | krassnicy | i compiled my whole system with emerge -e system and emerge -e world |
| 20:26.50 | Ace2007 | oh wait i thought this was #gentoo |
| 20:27.12 | PhilRod | krassnicy: you might also want to ask in #yourdistro, since the same sort of problem probably turns up with non-KDE apps and the compiler on $yourdistro |
| 20:27.34 | Sutoka | krassnicy: well then that should have gotten them, you could try running revdep-rebuild (though asking in #gentoo would get better advice, cause this doesn't look kde related truely) |
| 20:28.22 | krassnicy | i just thougt i ask here just in case that maybe some kde stuff doesnt work well when compiled with gcc 4... |
| 20:29.51 | Ace2007 | all thats failed so far on me with gcc4.1 is quanta, and for some reason gnome-icon-theme-2.14.2 also had an error even though i never installed gnome |
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| 20:31.39 | PhilRod | krassnicy: has your distro just done a default compiler upgrade? I think a few people have been in recently with gcc version problems |
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| 20:32.19 | krassnicy | PhilRod: afaik is the compiler upgrade optional, but no default |
| 20:32.30 | PhilRod | krassnicy: gentoo? |
| 20:32.48 | Sutoka | PhilRod: on gentoo gcc 4.1.1 has been marked stable, but installing it doesn't change the default compiler |
| 20:33.00 | krassnicy | PhilRod: yes |
| 20:33.53 | PhilRod | ah, that's worth knowing |
| 20:33.56 | Sutoka | i have no plans on updating to gcc 4.1.1 anytime soon... upgrading to gcc3.4 took long enough (it seems like the last time i looked 4.1 was still using CVS versions in gentoo...) |
| 20:35.56 | Shirakawasuna | krassnicy: bad |
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| 20:36.16 | Shirakawasuna | krassnicy: that is 1: a gentoo problem and 2: the official docs should be followed when doing gcc upgrades |
| 20:36.36 | Shirakawasuna | krassnicy: note that you should compile glibc with the nptl and nptlonly USE flags as well - now back to #gentoo with you :) |
| 20:37.02 | krassnicy | Shirakawasuna: who said i didnt follow the official docs at my gcc upgrade? |
| 20:37.30 | Shirakawasuna | me |
| 20:37.47 | Shirakawasuna | :) |
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| 21:00.05 | johey | Would it be possible to "port" the Firefox plugin Greasemonkey to Konqueror, or is the plugin engine of Konqueror too limited? |
| 21:00.49 | johey | By port, I mean to write a plugin with the same features and which is compatible with the scripts written for Greasemonkey. |
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| 21:01.45 | PhilRod | johey: what is greasemonkey? |
| 21:01.53 | gw280 | PHILROD!!!!!!!! |
| 21:02.05 | ataxic | i'm seeing smt slippery |
| 21:02.16 | ataxic | jumping from tree to tree |
| 21:02.17 | johey | PhilRod: A plugin for Firefox which can be scriptet to change the DOM of a web page. |
| 21:02.21 | pinotree | johey: once there was a proto-port of Gecko to Qt4, but was unmaintained |
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| 21:02.32 | ataxic | it happens to be a monkey that just came out of the deep fat fryer |
| 21:02.37 | ataxic | it was a bit hot... |
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| 21:02.52 | Sutoka | pinotree: qt3 i believe |
| 21:03.01 | pinotree | err yes |
| 21:03.06 | Sutoka | johey: should be possible |
| 21:03.06 | pinotree | mistyping |
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| 21:03.08 | johey | PhilRod: You can for example do a Greasemonkey script that will change the CSS and add javascripts to a specific web page. |
| 21:03.26 | Sutoka | pinotree: everyone is dumping gecko for khtml though ;-) |
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| 21:03.44 | ma3x | is there a slideshow player for kde? |
| 21:03.50 | johey | Sutoka: You haven't heard of anyone working on such a project? |
| 21:03.58 | pinotree | johey: there's the Dom viewer plugin for konqueror, try it |
| 21:04.01 | PhilRod | johey: I suspect you could write a konq plugin to do that |
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| 21:04.38 | Sutoka | johey: nope, not a lot of people realize that konqueror/khtml support extensions |
| 21:05.03 | johey | pinotree: Well, the point is that I want to use already written Greasemonkey scripts. I used to use them with Firefox, and I have a couple of favourites... However, I mostly use Konqueror nowadays. |
| 21:05.32 | johey | PhilRod: Maybe one should take a look at that. :) |
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| 21:06.10 | AegeanLinux | HI Renze!!! :-P |
| 21:06.11 | Sutoka | johey: it should be possible, i just think no one has done it |
| 21:06.40 | johey | Sutoka: Arn't there any site similar to the extension archive for Mozilla/Firefox? It would be nice to see what third party plugins there are for Konqueror. |
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| 21:08.00 | PhilRod | johey: how much do greasemonkey scripts depend on the details of the gecko renderer? |
| 21:08.20 | johey | PhilRod: Hmm... I don't believe they do at all. |
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| 21:10.16 | johey | PhilRod: Well, as they are made to work with Gecko only, most of the scripts are not verifyed to the w3c standard. So, they might use Gecko specific html/css/javascripts. However, I believe both Gecko and Khtml are quite standard compilant. |
| 21:11.08 | aseigo | greasmonkey relies on gecko quite a bit |
| 21:11.10 | PhilRod | johey: is there somewhere I could take a look at such a script? |
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| 21:11.52 | johey | PhilRod: There are thousands of them at http://userscripts.org/ |
| 21:12.20 | johey | PhilRod: Eh, correction... 2 000 000, according to the site. :) |
| 21:12.47 | PhilRod | johey: 2*10^6 is a multiple of 1000 :-) |
| 21:12.52 | johey | aseigo: So it wouldn't be easy to make a Greasemonkey compatbile plugin for Konquerior? |
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| 21:13.18 | johey | PhilRod: Ah, yes. True. I was just not specific enough. :) |
| 21:14.00 | johey | s/Konquerior/Konqueror/ |
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| 21:15.40 | Kronoz | hi, is there going to a kde 3.5.5? |
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| 21:16.47 | PhilRod | yes |
| 21:16.53 | PhilRod | in a month or so |
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| 21:20.24 | Mr_Grieves | I'm trying to connect my suse 10.1 box to my new bluetooth phone for file transfer. Kbluetoothd sees the phone, but when I attempt to open it, konqueror pops up and says "bluetooth:/ malformed url" |
| 21:20.42 | Mr_Grieves | any ideas? |
| 21:20.58 | Kronoz | cool :) |
| 21:25.08 | AegeanLinux | I am going to go celebrate my birthday, latter guys! |
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| 21:33.34 | kucrut | Shirakawasuna: or move to !arch :P |
| 21:33.39 | kucrut | ~arch* |
| 21:34.14 | Shirakawasuna | hehe |
| 21:34.17 | Shirakawasuna | never! |
| 21:34.21 | Shirakawasuna | well |
| 21:34.35 | Shirakawasuna | I will for KDE4 when a good number of people in here report easiness/success w/ it :) |
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| 21:45.01 | koala_man | is kmail supposed to support mail in utf-8? |
| 21:45.18 | Pinaraf | koala_man: it does |
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| 21:47.55 | koala_man | Pinaraf: I sent one to myself, and it shows up as garbage. There is a 'Content-Type: text/plain; \n charset="utf-8"', and the base 64 decodes to utf-8 |
| 21:48.02 | koala_man | but kmail shows it as latin1-garbage |
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| 21:48.33 | Pinaraf | check your settings then |
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| 21:49.13 | koala_man | Pinaraf: which settings causes kmail to ignore the mail's charset header? |
| 21:49.28 | Pinaraf | View > Use encoding ... |
| 21:50.15 | koala_man | freaky. |
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| 21:50.45 | Pinaraf | no |
| 21:51.04 | Ace2007 | You know i just say an advert for a windows screensaver on kde-look, that has got to be the worst place to advertise that |
| 21:51.07 | koala_man | how do I make it not switch back to latin1 when I close kmail? |
| 21:51.07 | Pinaraf | often, I receive emails with a wrong encoding |
| 21:51.22 | Ace2007 | i just saw* |
| 21:51.46 | Pinaraf | koala_man: settings > configure kmail |
| 21:52.02 | Pinaraf | tab "appearance" (not sure for the translation, third tab ...) |
| 21:52.09 | Pinaraf | tab "messages window" |
| 21:52.21 | koala_man | great, thanks |
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| 22:02.43 | lgsobalvarro | hi aseigo, canllaith |
| 22:06.41 | Ace2007 | hi again all |
| 22:07.04 | Ace2007 | does konqueror support a .hidden text file to hide folders and files like gnome thing? |
| 22:07.33 | rr72 | just put . infront of em |
| 22:07.43 | Ace2007 | I can't |
| 22:07.48 | rr72 | and turn off/on show hidden folders |
| 22:07.50 | rr72 | why can't u? |
| 22:08.13 | Ace2007 | open office/gimp/opera/inkscape all run off my pen drive and all have sub folders |
| 22:08.17 | Ace2007 | We need this feature |
| 22:08.28 | Sutoka | Ace2007: konqueror won't read a file called '.hidden' then hide files listed in it like OS X does |
| 22:08.49 | Ace2007 | Can you add support for it in the next version? |
| 22:08.59 | Sutoka | Ace2007: the way you do hidden files on most *nix is to put a '.' infront of the name |
| 22:09.41 | Sutoka | Ace2007: if you want that feature, you could had a feature request on bugs.kde.org |
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| 22:09.54 | Ace2007 | ok |
| 22:10.19 | rr72 | i told him to put a . infront |
| 22:10.31 | rr72 | he said he couldnt do that |
| 22:11.09 | Ace2007 | yup |
| 22:12.07 | Ace2007 | The wishlist is strange, why do people want kget to have torrent support? can't they use ktorrent? |
| 22:12.53 | Sutoka | Ace2007: maybe because they want 1 program to handle all downloads? |
| 22:13.05 | Ace2007 | oh i see |
| 22:13.19 | hermier | peopole (like me) would dream to have a single file transfer manager |
| 22:13.21 | rr72 | lol |
| 22:13.30 | Ace2007 | wouldn't it be easier to add http/ftp support to ktorrent and change its name to kget? |
| 22:13.51 | rr72 | Ace2007~ brillient idea, become a dev |
| 22:14.01 | Theory | I'd prefer a torrent IOSlave I could just copy files from :-0 |
| 22:14.06 | Sutoka | Ace2007: either way could work |
| 22:14.40 | Sutoka | wait, i thought kget already supports torrents in latest kde? (i thought i remember reading that it was implemented) |
| 22:15.38 | hermier | the problem is that IOSlave are not *seekable* and doesn't help for torrent and friends |
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| 22:16.03 | Sutoka | kde4 will include seekable kioslaves though (already been developed) |
| 22:16.07 | hermier | thouth ktorrant may offer a fake IOSlave |
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| 22:16.57 | Sutoka | using a kio interface to a torrent is kinda convoluted |
| 22:17.00 | hermier | I think the problem is more deep than just seekable IOSlave |
| 22:17.51 | Sutoka | you could make a kioslave for torrents, but it would be slow with seek |
| 22:18.36 | hermier | for me the real problem would be were to store and how to manage the downloaded parts |
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| 22:19.44 | Sutoka | i don't think there should be a 'normal' kioslave for torrents, but one more like the imap/pop3 ones that are meant for programs to use internally |
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| 22:22.53 | Sutoka | like so kget and ktorrent could use the same code, just ktorrent exposes more control over the torrents (they could also share some configuration, like whether or not to use DHT/encryption, the port, etc) |
| 22:23.29 | hermier | maybe thougth an interface like for archives can make sense |
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| 22:25.47 | gribouille | why isn't possible to determine with dcop whether a given window is on top ? |
| 22:26.23 | visik7 | is there kde 4 roadmap ? |
| 22:27.18 | hermier | hummm yes there was one but we gone of road lately |
| 22:28.33 | hermier | nigth |
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| 22:41.48 | Shirakawasuna | portage with more colors is fun :) |
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| 22:49.12 | Q-collective | Hmm, again I have an issue with my printer. And I'm puzzled again :( |
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| 22:49.23 | Q-collective | It isn't stopped or anything now |
| 22:49.43 | Q-collective | kjobviewer says it's processing the print job |
| 22:49.49 | Q-collective | but it isn't printing |
| 22:49.50 | Q-collective | :\ |
| 22:50.18 | lgsobalvarro | Q-collective: and lpd? |
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| 22:50.44 | lgsobalvarro | a mean lpq |
| 22:50.51 | lgsobalvarro | or whatever... |
| 22:51.46 | Shirakawasuna | stupid cups |
| 22:51.50 | Shirakawasuna | mine just stopped working a little while ago |
| 22:51.55 | Shirakawasuna | I haven't made the effort to try and get it working again |
| 22:52.36 | Q-collective | lgsobalvarro: neither |
| 22:52.37 | Q-collective | :\ |
| 22:53.11 | lgsobalvarro | it dont show the job? |
| 22:53.38 | Q-collective | it does |
| 22:53.45 | Q-collective | no printing though |
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| 22:54.48 | Shirakawasuna | lame. I get a $20 student discount on a mac mini...thanks, apple |
| 22:54.59 | lgsobalvarro | Q-collective: and you have connected you're printer? |
| 22:54.59 | Shirakawasuna | Q-collective: same has happened to me |
| 22:55.31 | Q-collective | lgsobalvarro: duh |
| 22:55.35 | Shirakawasuna | Q-collective: sometimes what it takes is going to localhost:/631 (or whatever it is), going to the administration section and removing/restarting the printer |
| 22:55.36 | Q-collective | Shirakawasuna: hmm |
| 22:55.39 | Shirakawasuna | doing something violent to it |
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| 22:55.55 | Q-collective | I tried to restart it |
| 22:55.55 | Renze | defenestration is always an option |
| 22:56.06 | Q-collective | I guess I could remove/readd it |
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| 22:57.16 | Q-collective | oh and konsole is having some weird error about PTY device crap |
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| 22:57.46 | Q-collective | when I click "ok", konsole exits |
| 22:57.52 | Q-collective | very weird |
| 22:58.19 | Shirakawasuna | no, it's just cups being moronic |
| 22:58.45 | Q-collective | Shirakawasuna: ok, so I down/upgrade cups? |
| 22:58.48 | Q-collective | :> |
| 22:58.55 | Shirakawasuna | given that the user interaction with a printer usually amounts to : print in grayscale, print 4 pages, etc, you'd think it wouldn't die so much |
| 22:59.09 | Shirakawasuna | remove/readd the printer |
| 22:59.14 | Shirakawasuna | that's the only solution I've found |
| 22:59.20 | Q-collective | sigh |
| 22:59.24 | Ace2007 | does ktorrent support encryption and upnp? |
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| 22:59.50 | Shirakawasuna | yep |
| 22:59.54 | lgsobalvarro | yes Ace2007 |
| 23:00.02 | Shirakawasuna | ktorrent 2 rocks |
| 23:00.09 | lgsobalvarro | ktorrent 2 support that things |
| 23:00.10 | Ace2007 | Oh never knew that, thanks, i'll give it a try |
| 23:00.17 | Shirakawasuna | Ace2007: get 2.0.2 |
| 23:01.02 | Shirakawasuna | has anyone found that using encryption greatly reduces download/upload speed? |
| 23:01.18 | Ace2007 | nope |
| 23:01.22 | Ace2007 | it increases it for me |
| 23:01.50 | Ace2007 | my isp doesn't like bittorrent so its throtteling it |
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| 23:03.51 | helmut | Hi. I read that I can integrate vim within kde, right? |
| 23:03.58 | helmut | Can I somehow make kile use vim? |
| 23:04.09 | helmut | (or at least vim bindings) |
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| 23:11.24 | Ace2007 | night all |
| 23:11.32 | Ace2007 | bye |
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| 23:16.30 | visik7 | what is the status of gecko port to konqy ? |
| 23:16.42 | Renze | dead in the water |
| 23:23.52 | Sutoka | visik7: very dead |
| 23:24.05 | visik7 | :( |
| 23:24.39 | Sutoka | no worries, khtml devs working closer with webkit and nokia devs will be better |
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| 23:25.47 | visik7 | yes but for example flash plugin actually sucks in konqueror, while works not bad in firefox and opera |
| 23:25.58 | Sutoka | visik7: flash works fine for me in recent versions of konqueror |
| 23:26.03 | Theory | hopefully things will be better with the new flash |
| 23:26.04 | pinotree | here too |
| 23:26.14 | Theory | flash works ok most places for me (notable exception google analytics) |
| 23:26.26 | visik7 | Sutoka: I'm using konq 3.5.2 |
| 23:26.45 | visik7 | here flash is broken on most embedded youtube videos |
| 23:26.48 | Sutoka | visik7: flash has worked fine here since around 3.4, its worked fine for most other people since earlier |
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| 23:27.08 | Sutoka | visik7: thats a bug in konqueror for redirects on plugins, its been fixed |
| 23:27.10 | visik7 | here all the installation of kubuntu suffer the same problem |
| 23:27.24 | visik7 | fixed in which version ? |
| 23:27.34 | Sutoka | the fix should be included in 3.5.5 |
| 23:27.39 | visik7 | oh ok |
| 23:27.57 | Sutoka | it was fixed pretty soon after youtube changed their stuff to do the redirects which exposed the bug |
| 23:28.10 | Sutoka | but it just missed 3.5.4 iirc |
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