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| 00:13.43 | tackat | hi |
| 00:16.52 | Dr_willis | hi |
| 00:18.17 | tackat | somebody out there who wants to try a small virtual globe and give feedback :) about the instructions I made http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/2429 ? |
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| 00:40.50 | stoned | hi |
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| 00:42.03 | Celeste | re |
| 00:42.08 | Celeste | Dr_willis, here I am |
| 00:42.26 | Celeste | just wanted to place the KDE related questions not in the ubuntu channel because its more KDE releated |
| 00:42.53 | Dr_willis | thers always #kubuntu :P |
| 00:42.53 | Dr_willis | lol |
| 00:43.42 | Celeste | heh |
| 00:43.43 | Celeste | ok |
| 00:43.47 | Celeste | just joined |
| 00:44.06 | StarScream | mahound_: yep |
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| 00:50.48 | Celeste | Dr_willithank you Dr_willis, I must restart |
| 00:50.50 | Celeste | will be back soon |
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| 01:07.15 | Mr_Awesome | hello |
| 01:07.46 | Mr_Awesome | i've been trying to get konqueror to play the mozilla flash plugin through alsa rather than arts, since arts can be sort of laggy |
| 01:08.34 | Mr_Awesome | so i've found that running "aoss konqueror" does this... now I want to make that the default in kde |
| 01:08.41 | Mr_Awesome | does that make sense? |
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| 01:15.14 | Homer | i think flash uses OSS directly |
| 01:15.18 | Homer | I can be wrong |
| 01:15.44 | Homer | it mostly sucks, that is why it lags sound |
| 01:15.52 | Homer | known bug, adobe doesn't care |
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| 01:17.57 | Dr_willis | call their tech support line. :P |
| 01:18.05 | Dr_willis | then get 10000 friends to call it.. |
| 01:18.13 | Dr_willis | each day for a month. |
| 01:18.14 | Dr_willis | :) |
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| 01:20.45 | icwiener | Better: Get 10 firends, learn how to write code and help the FSF developing GPL Flash. :) |
| 01:21.42 | icwiener | They are Flash 7 compliant, if I remember right. |
| 01:21.59 | icwiener | But on my machine it crashes from time to time. |
| 01:22.43 | icwiener | But it feels better inside to not have adobe's crap installed. :) |
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| 01:25.34 | Dr_willis | web sites these days are demanding you have the latest flash.. even tho their stuff is still using the older flash... |
| 01:25.36 | Dr_willis | sadly |
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| 01:26.15 | icwiener | Nevver seen such a website. ;) |
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| 01:51.22 | Scott5114 | kde-apps.org appears to have been spammed |
| 01:54.34 | qupada | indeed... cheap airline tickets |
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| 02:02.42 | factor | does anyone know of a tool or page to tell if the your page meets konquror HTML |
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| 02:07.28 | hagabaka | factor: validate |
| 02:08.04 | factor | is that command line or in konq? |
| 02:08.18 | factor | my code works under konq and opera. |
| 02:08.27 | factor | sorry firefox moz and opera. |
| 02:08.36 | factor | but not konq |
| 02:08.58 | hagabaka | it's not a command; just use W3C's validator |
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| 02:11.58 | factor | well its more of a javascript problem. |
| 02:12.24 | factor | someting to test against konq javascript and give whits what is or what is not going on. |
| 02:12.25 | P4C0 | hello guys, can someone tell me the name of the kde channel for developers? (kde applications?) |
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| 02:16.21 | factor | it would be cool if konquror got a DOM inspector like firefox |
| 02:18.01 | icwiener | P4C0: #kde-devel and #kde4-devel |
| 02:18.19 | P4C0 | thanks icwiener |
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| 02:46.20 | Renze | factor: I don't know about your konqueror, but mine has a DOM inspector. go to Settings -> Configure Extensions and enable it. |
| 02:46.38 | factor | I have to add the addon package |
| 02:46.41 | factor | doing that right now |
| 02:47.09 | Renze | have you checked your Tools menu? |
| 02:47.42 | factor | yup |
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| 02:51.09 | factor | sweet go it to work |
| 02:51.17 | factor | yup I had to get the kde addons |
| 02:51.31 | factor | that is what I wanted thanks |
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| 02:55.41 | w00tnation | can someone tell me where the settings are to not alternate background colors in list views? |
| 02:56.38 | icwiener | w00tnation: Just set list and alternate list to the same color. |
| 03:04.27 | w00tnation | what's the paramater to change for konqueror's list view background behind files... its a different color then behind the details, I want to match them up |
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| 03:06.01 | icwiener | Here only the column used to sort entries has a slightly other color. |
| 03:06.11 | hagabaka | is there a place where krfb_httpd logs errors? |
| 03:06.21 | w00tnation | right.. |
| 03:06.29 | w00tnation | oh yeah....I spent a while looking for this before |
| 03:06.36 | w00tnation | the sort color... |
| 03:06.42 | w00tnation | thanks icwiener |
| 03:06.48 | icwiener | yw |
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| 03:17.26 | lebifteksauvage | Hello ;) |
| 03:18.14 | Zxcvb | nevermind, using a cdrom.h from kernel 2.4.x fixed it |
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| 03:38.12 | Bolete | OI sroret |
| 03:38.31 | Bolete | Tudo certo |
| 03:39.14 | icwiener | Bolete: This is an english speaking channel. |
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| 03:40.05 | Bolete | NO |
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| 03:40.30 | Bolete | HELOOOOOO |
| 03:40.54 | tvtoon | Ktorrent is a very good program, is it part of the KDE? |
| 03:41.23 | Bolete | YES |
| 03:41.50 | Dr_willis | I like ktorrent. |
| 03:42.00 | Dr_willis | it was a little buggy but i think the main ones are all fixed now. |
| 03:42.15 | Dr_willis | so far in the last 20+gb of stuff ive gotten - no hassles |
| 03:42.22 | icwiener | tvtoon: I don't think so. But I'm not sure. |
| 03:42.31 | tvtoon | Yea :) |
| 03:42.58 | tvtoon | I have only found it now, said goodbye to Azureus XD |
| 03:43.04 | Dr_willis | heh |
| 03:43.12 | Dr_willis | i agree with that tvtoon |
| 03:43.13 | grepper | tvtoon: depends what you mean by "part of KDE" |
| 03:43.26 | Dr_willis | i dont think its a standard part of a normal kde install - yet. :P |
| 03:43.33 | tvtoon | grepper, standard |
| 03:43.44 | tvtoon | like Kate, Kwrite, Kmix etc.. |
| 03:43.49 | grepper | its a seperate app afaik |
| 03:43.59 | grepper | not in kdenetwork etc etc |
| 03:44.16 | icwiener | It's in extragear in the SNV. |
| 03:44.33 | icwiener | So it's not an official part of KDE. |
| 03:44.37 | grepper | yeah |
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| 03:47.31 | hagabaka | how can I kill krfb_httpd and make it not automatically start again? |
| 03:49.07 | tvtoon | hagabaka, ps -A |
| 03:49.21 | hagabaka | i'm mostly having trouble with the second part |
| 03:49.24 | hagabaka | i know how to kill it |
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| 03:49.41 | icwiener | hagabaka: When does it start automatically? |
| 03:49.52 | icwiener | hagabaka: At startup? |
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| 03:50.15 | hagabaka | just a few minutes after I kill it, and it uses very high CPU |
| 03:50.52 | hagabaka | i don't know where to find any error messages either, looked in ~/.xsession-errors, syslog, and even when i launch it manually, it doesn't print anything |
| 03:55.24 | icwiener | hagabaka: Have you kinetd installed too? |
| 03:56.04 | hagabaka | yeah |
| 03:56.23 | icwiener | I do not know both of them but they seem to work together and 'kinetd' sound a bit like if it could have startet krfb |
| 03:56.39 | hagabaka | i just opened the desktop sharing wizard today, and i guess it got "enabled". but i don't see a way to disable it again |
| 03:56.58 | icwiener | Maybe in kcontrol? |
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| 03:57.22 | icwiener | Under KDE Compinents |
| 03:57.40 | icwiener | s/Compinents/Components/ |
| 03:58.40 | neopc | oi |
| 03:59.13 | trancedelic | oi |
| 03:59.41 | hagabaka | there's the kde inetd service there, but I can't configure it to not launch the desktop sharing... |
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| 04:05.05 | hagabaka | i'm not sure if i need it for anything else |
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| 04:10.24 | ErenTurkay | hi all |
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| 04:12.03 | ErenTurkay | will cd-rw erase dialog in K3b develop? |
| 04:13.48 | icwiener | ErenTurkay: develop? |
| 04:14.11 | icwiener | hagabaka: I do not know that either. I didn't know the service until a few minutes ago. ;) |
| 04:14.39 | ErenTurkay | icwiener: improve |
| 04:14.42 | ErenTurkay | that's so simple |
| 04:15.56 | icwiener | ErenTurkay: I think #k3b would be a better place to ask that. |
| 04:15.57 | hagabaka | i stopped the service, killed krfb_httpd and restarted the service, and it doesn't seem to be restarting now, so thanks :) |
| 04:16.09 | ErenTurkay | icwiener: ah, ok |
| 04:16.41 | qupada | only #k3b has been deserted |
| 04:16.50 | qupada | look at the latest version in the topic |
| 04:16.55 | qupada | 0.11.24 |
| 04:16.59 | icwiener | ErenTurkay: But it's not that populated then. ;) |
| 04:17.06 | ErenTurkay | hehe :) |
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| 04:17.42 | ErenTurkay | ahh |
| 04:17.45 | ErenTurkay | i have to go |
| 04:17.49 | ErenTurkay | my school will start :) |
| 04:17.56 | ErenTurkay | bye all, take care |
| 04:18.58 | AceSmythe | <offtopic> anyone see the southpark that made fun of WoW tonight? </offtopic> |
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| 04:24.52 | davido | using Kate 2.3.1 (KDE 3.3.1-3.14) Configured to use xml markup, you can press F8 to bring up a dialog to enter open/close tags, but it doesn't keep any sort of history. I haven't seen this discussed while googling around... Anyone else use Kate for xml markup and recognize this? |
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| 04:26.15 | Renze | davido: you really should check the latest version, as the one you are using is over two years old |
| 04:26.17 | davido | e.g. Press F8, type "para" and it inserts <para></para>, but next time you press F8 you have to type it again |
| 04:26.41 | davido | oooh, that's old... |
| 04:26.59 | davido | ok, I'll go away for a while. Thanks :) |
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| 04:51.54 | factor | anyone know of a good link for the quirks of konqueor? |
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| 04:53.15 | Dr_willis | those are not quirks! those are features! :) |
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| 05:08.56 | grepper | yep, but it doesn't load in konqueror |
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| 05:10.02 | Siji | what can I do for getting INdian Language support in KDE |
| 05:10.50 | Siji | Right now when I am trying to create a folder name in Indian Language it gives ?? symbols |
| 05:12.18 | icwiener | Siji: I think, you should switch your locale to utf8. |
| 05:12.49 | Siji | how |
| 05:12.49 | Siji | pls tell me the procedure |
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| 05:14.04 | icwiener | Siji: I'm not quite sure, if KDE takes over the settings automatically, but you set your locale not in KDE but for your distro. |
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| 05:14.04 | satan | hello all |
| 05:14.07 | icwiener | Siji: What distro are you using? |
| 05:14.08 | satan | anyone know how to fix distorted mp3s? |
| 05:14.13 | Siji | knoppix 5.0 |
| 05:14.38 | Siji | I had change the lang from kde control panel |
| 05:15.30 | icwiener | Siji: The Hindi team is not really up-to-date with translating KDE. :( |
| 05:16.01 | Siji | No |
| 05:16.08 | icwiener | Siji: For procedure how to switch locale to utf8, you propably have to ask in #knoppix |
| 05:16.10 | Siji | It partially completed |
| 05:16.18 | Siji | I ahd downloaded it also |
| 05:16.27 | Siji | and it is working |
| 05:16.37 | Siji | ok |
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| 05:51.55 | Kiruwa | mhall: moc is rather complicated... |
| 05:52.37 | Kiruwa | what exactly do you mean by "what mac does to its input code"? |
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| 05:53.50 | Kiruwa | it builds the signal and slot mechanism (through clever use of macros), implementing lookup tables through the .moc file that you have to remember to #include in your file |
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| 06:05.21 | mhall | Yeah where can I get an output file from it? |
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| 06:06.23 | thiago | compile Qt or any KDE program |
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| 07:03.58 | qupada | i take it we're talking the 1 line that says error and not the 270 that say warning |
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| 07:04.54 | rokstar | qupada: yes, the NO DATABASE error |
| 07:05.15 | qupada | never seen that one before, sorry |
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| 07:26.23 | Presently42 | My root password is not being recognised by a config dialogue to uninstall some things from amarok. |
| 07:26.47 | logixoul | what things? |
| 07:27.19 | Presently42 | Not sure. It;s a script that pulls things from svn and installs them. Or removes, as is currently the casde. |
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| 07:27.45 | logixoul | aha. |
| 07:28.02 | logixoul | ask at #amarok |
| 07:28.03 | Presently42 | Should I report this as well to amarok? |
| 07:28.21 | logixoul | yes, they're likely to know more. |
| 07:28.22 | Presently42 | Ay. I asked here first since kde should recognise my password. |
| 07:28.30 | logixoul | oh |
| 07:28.52 | logixoul | wait a sec... |
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| 07:29.24 | logixoul | is the script you run called amarok-svn.sh? |
| 07:29.28 | Presently42 | Ay. |
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| 07:30.48 | Presently42 | Have you seen this before? |
| 07:30.50 | logixoul | and you run it with the -r option? |
| 07:30.54 | logixoul | (no) |
| 07:31.09 | Presently42 | No, I don't use -r. |
| 07:31.41 | logixoul | which version of amarok do you have installed? |
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| 07:32.35 | logixoul | oh, wait. i'm an idiot. |
| 07:32.39 | Presently42 | 1.4-svn blah. |
| 07:32.56 | logixoul | run just 'kdesu kwrite' |
| 07:33.05 | logixoul | does it accept your password? |
| 07:33.20 | Presently42 | Nope. |
| 07:33.38 | logixoul | aha, so indeed amarok's got nothing to do with it. |
| 07:33.47 | Presently42 | As I thought. :) |
| 07:33.58 | logixoul | what about 'sudo kwrite'? (in a terminal) |
| 07:34.01 | logixoul | :) |
| 07:34.40 | Presently42 | I haven't got sudo. |
| 07:34.47 | Presently42 | (I think it's silly.) |
| 07:34.48 | logixoul | su then |
| 07:34.51 | logixoul | aha |
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| 07:35.07 | Presently42 | Su works. |
| 07:35.13 | logixoul | oh boy. |
| 07:35.14 | Presently42 | I like your diagnosing. |
| 07:35.36 | Presently42 | I did just upgrade to 3.5.5 with out rebooting.... |
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| 07:35.52 | Presently42 | Surely that shouldn't cause this, though. |
| 07:35.53 | icwiener | 3.5.5 is out? |
| 07:35.56 | logixoul | 3.5.5? |
| 07:36.13 | Presently42 | For packaging purposes. They release a week early. |
| 07:37.48 | icwiener | Presently42: Is it possible that your distro has only a part of 3.5.5 and still much 3.5.4 suff installed? |
| 07:38.04 | Presently42 | I also just installed pmount and stuck in a usb key. It mount unmount now, though the light on the key blinked a few times. |
| 07:38.26 | logixoul | okay, does minicli's "Run as a different user" option work? |
| 07:38.36 | logixoul | (it shouldn't) |
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| 07:40.17 | Presently42 | If you mean start a new session, it worked for user. I can't seem to log out, though.... |
| 07:40.41 | logixoul | dude, not that. |
| 07:40.43 | Presently42 | nix that/ |
| 07:40.46 | Presently42 | O. |
| 07:41.00 | logixoul | in the "Run Command" dialog click "Options >>" |
| 07:41.15 | logixoul | and you'll find fields for running a command as a different user |
| 07:42.27 | Presently42 | Running kwrite as root worked. |
| 07:43.32 | logixoul | the output of kdesu --version ? |
| 07:44.10 | Presently42 | kdesu version 1.0 |
| 07:44.17 | Presently42 | kde 3.5.5 |
| 07:45.05 | logixoul | wait... |
| 07:46.06 | Presently42 | J'attends. |
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| 07:47.23 | Presently42 | Seems the problem lies with kdesu/ |
| 07:47.32 | logixoul | yes |
| 07:48.13 | Presently42 | Should I reboot and see if the problem remains? |
| 07:48.36 | logixoul | okay |
| 07:48.43 | Presently42 | I shall return, then |
| 07:48.46 | logixoul | yep |
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| 07:49.58 | icwiener | Oh, I can second the kdesu problem. :( |
| 07:50.06 | logixoul | icwiener: with 3.5.5? |
| 07:50.10 | icwiener | Yes. |
| 07:50.12 | icwiener | Same version. |
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| 07:50.39 | icwiener | debian packages |
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| 07:52.20 | Chicago | I enabled UNIX style window management. How can I switch the window management style back to KDE? I miss not being able to ALT-TAB. |
| 07:53.06 | logixoul | Chicago: kcontrol->desktop->window behavior |
| 07:53.20 | shastry | any qmake guys here ? |
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| 07:53.40 | Chicago | logixoul: Which tab??? |
| 07:54.03 | logixoul | Chicago: dunno, what exactly does "UNIX style window management" mean? i've forgotten. |
| 07:54.33 | Chicago | logixoul: You get windows which become active when you focus on them vs. clicking on them... and you lose the ALT-TAB. |
| 07:55.09 | logixoul | Chicago: tab - 'focus'. option - 'policy'. |
| 07:55.23 | logixoul | Chicago: choose 'click to focus' |
| 07:55.43 | Chicago | logixoul: I like the focus follow... but I want the ALT-TAB back. |
| 07:56.12 | logixoul | Chicago: oh, wait then. |
| 07:56.42 | logixoul | Chicago: which is your current policy? 'focus follows mouse'? |
| 07:57.04 | Chicago | logixoul: One other thing is keeping a window in the foreground. My policy is Focus Strickly Under Mouse. |
| 07:57.25 | Chicago | I lose the ability to tell my mythTV window to stay ontop of other windows. |
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| 07:58.17 | logixoul | Chicago: my Alt-Tab works when Focus Strictly Under Mouse is enabled. check your global bindings. |
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| 07:59.46 | logixoul | Chicago: kcontrol->regional&accessibility->keyboard shortcuts->System->Navigation->Walk Through Windows |
| 08:00.01 | Chicago | logixoul: GREAT. |
| 08:00.06 | Chicago | let me check that out. |
| 08:01.14 | Chicago | logixoul: With this UNIX profile... the little windows that appears when doing the ALT-TAB is gone... that is cool. |
| 08:01.48 | logixoul | Chicago: i wouldn't be able to endure this kind of behavior :) |
| 08:02.12 | Chicago | I know I'll want to see the list of windows I'm walking through though, especially when I have a bunch of GIMP windows open... I wouldn't be able to see the title of the window I'm opening. |
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| 08:04.40 | logixoul | Chicago: yeah, but you can't do it. feel free to file a wishlist at bugs.kde.org - or try the Focus Follows Mouse policy. you might like it. |
| 08:05.12 | logixoul | Presently42: hi |
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| 08:05.35 | Chicago | logixoul: So do I I have to remove my .kde files to go back to the KDE style? OR is there another way? |
| 08:05.49 | icwiener | Chicago: kpersonalizer |
| 08:06.13 | logixoul | Chicago: kcontrol->desktop->window behavior->focus->policy |
| 08:07.02 | Chicago | Thanks. :) |
| 08:07.16 | logixoul | ;) |
| 08:07.22 | logixoul | icwiener: was that the kde first-run-wizard? |
| 08:07.25 | Chicago | kpersonalizer got me able to switch back to the KDE style... and now I can make my mythTV window stay on top of other windows again. |
| 08:07.55 | icwiener | logixoul: Yes. There you can set the whole thing to another policy, not just the focus stuff. |
| 08:07.57 | RockMan | ciao |
| 08:08.06 | Chicago | I think I made my system run much better today by deleting my home directory and starting over with no hidden files. |
| 08:08.12 | logixoul | icwiener: right. i don't have that :) |
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| 08:08.22 | icwiener | logixoul: me neither. ;) |
| 08:08.31 | logixoul | Chicago: sure, i've noticed that before |
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| 08:09.25 | Renze | and I've been using the same home directory since 2000 with no ill effects :D |
| 08:10.12 | logixoul | nice. |
| 08:11.15 | Chicago | Renze: that's amazing |
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| 08:11.41 | Chicago | Renze: How do you skip using kpersonalizer? for even the first time you use KDE? |
| 08:11.58 | Chicago | Where is the keyboard shortcut for kmenu so I can assign my windows logo key on my keyboard to bring up the kmenu? |
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| 08:12.31 | logixoul | Chicago: use the search function ;) |
| 08:12.54 | Renze | Chicago: I clicked Cancel and then edited the config so it wouldn't run again |
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| 08:13.22 | Chicago | Well, I typed "kmenu" into search...but it's not there. |
| 08:13.26 | Renze | Chicago: and the first time I used KDE (1.1) kpersonalizer didn't exist :D |
| 08:13.33 | logixoul | Chicago: just menu, with no k |
| 08:13.40 | Chicago | I just want the ordinary kmenu from the panel to be accessed with a shortcut from my windows logo key. |
| 08:13.47 | logixoul | yep |
| 08:14.07 | logixoul | Chicago: it's called Launch Menu, you'll find it by searching for menu |
| 08:14.26 | logixoul | Chicago: (in kcontrol->regional&accessibility->keyboard shortcuts) |
| 08:15.10 | Renze | brrrr... gonna be another cold spring night in NZ |
| 08:15.57 | logixoul | me too |
| 08:16.29 | Chicago | I think there's a bug. When I press the windows logo key "Win+" shows up for the primary shortcut... but as soon as I release the windows logo key, "Win+" disappears...and isn't assigned to the popup launch menu action. |
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| 08:16.55 | Renze | that's because Win is a qualifier, not a key... like shift and control |
| 08:17.34 | logixoul | i think there's a way to do it. |
| 08:17.43 | logixoul | wait |
| 08:17.58 | Renze | yes, by changing the default shortcuts, I believe |
| 08:18.19 | logixoul | Renze: as he said, it's impossible by default. |
| 08:18.29 | Renze | yes, it is impossible by default |
| 08:18.39 | logixoul | Chicago: okay, found it |
| 08:18.39 | Renze | I prefer the qualifier, anyway |
| 08:18.45 | logixoul | me too |
| 08:19.07 | logixoul | Chicago: somewhat hacky but oh well... |
| 08:19.26 | Chicago | okay |
| 08:20.10 | logixoul | Chicago: kcontrol->regional&accessibility->keyboard layout->xkb options->check "press right winkey to choose third level" and "press left winkey to choose third level" |
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| 08:20.47 | logixoul | Renze: because Windows has one hella lot of things right :) |
| 08:21.01 | Renze | logixoul: only the parts they stole from others :D |
| 08:22.31 | logixoul | Renze: they didn't steal the GUI of Add&Remove Programs, did they? :) |
| 08:22.59 | Renze | I hate that GUI... uninstalling one package wiped out half my mp3 collection |
| 08:23.18 | Chicago | I checked them and applied the changes. Do I need to login/logout to see the changes? Or do I need to have a specific keyboard type to know it will work... I know I saw the Win+ qualifier as you said... and I checked right-left winkey for third level menu.... but it doesn't work.. |
| 08:23.19 | logixoul | Renze: seriously? what package? |
| 08:23.31 | Renze | logixoul: Half Life |
| 08:24.01 | logixoul | Chicago: no need to relogin. |
| 08:24.25 | logixoul | Chicago: now that you checked these two, just bind "Popup Launch Menu" to winkey ;) |
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| 08:24.36 | siddharta | hello every body |
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| 08:24.48 | logixoul | Renze: did you have your collection in the Half Life dir? |
| 08:24.49 | Chicago | siddharta: Hello :) |
| 08:24.53 | siddharta | i really get crazy whith this problem |
| 08:24.54 | Renze | logixoul: of course not |
| 08:25.11 | Renze | logixoul: but it started deleting them anyway, until I aborted it |
| 08:25.19 | logixoul | Renze: never happened to me anyway... |
| 08:25.27 | siddharta | under freebsd , no https page display with konquerir |
| 08:25.31 | siddharta | konqueror |
| 08:25.33 | logixoul | Renze: but that's no *gui* problem |
| 08:25.38 | Renze | logixoul: I only used windows for about 9 months... that was more than enough to learn to hate it |
| 08:26.08 | logixoul | Renze: i used windows for 5 years, and i hate it too... |
| 08:26.27 | logixoul | siddharta: what's the error message? |
| 08:26.35 | Renze | logixoul: I know it's not a gui problem, but what was behind that gui deleted some tracks I have never been able to find again |
| 08:26.58 | siddharta | the error displays in french i try to translate |
| 08:27.21 | Renze | siddharta: sounds like it might be an openssl problem. |
| 08:27.51 | logixoul | siddharta: better not, just temporarily switch your system's language. |
| 08:27.57 | Renze | siddharta: if http:// works but https:// doesn't, check openssl |
| 08:28.05 | siddharta | ok |
| 08:28.38 | logixoul | does freebsd even use openssl? |
| 08:28.40 | Renze | I've seen this before with gentoo users updating openssl but not rebuilding the kde packages against the new lib |
| 08:28.47 | Renze | no idea |
| 08:28.55 | Renze | I've never used *bsd |
| 08:29.38 | Renze | I can only answer questions the linux way... it's the bsd user's problem to translate that into bsdese :D |
| 08:29.49 | logixoul | hehe :) |
| 08:30.18 | logixoul | check that out, i managed to make my systray icons 64x64 :) |
| 08:30.26 | Renze | logixoul: um... why? :D |
| 08:30.51 | logixoul | Renze: easier to see and click |
| 08:31.07 | Renze | for somebody with serious cataract problems, maybe :D |
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| 08:31.47 | logixoul | Renze: i'm myopic :) |
| 08:31.56 | Renze | I'm farsighted |
| 08:32.15 | Renze | 64 pixels is a little extreme, isn't it? :D |
| 08:32.49 | logixoul | well, i might tune it down to 32. but they're sure easier to click now. |
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| 08:33.07 | Renze | I might shrink mine to 16x16 |
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| 08:33.37 | logixoul | i tried, they look like breadcrumbs. |
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| 08:33.59 | Renze | mmmmm... breadcrumbs... |
| 08:37.59 | logixoul | shit. |
| 08:38.12 | logixoul | my Close Window shortcut won't work anymore. |
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| 08:43.26 | Renze | logixoul: what's the key for the systray settings? Size= ? |
| 08:44.06 | logixoul | systrayIconWidth (don't ask me why "Width" :p ) |
| 08:44.30 | Renze | in systemtray_panelappletrc ? |
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| 08:44.37 | logixoul | no |
| 08:44.47 | logixoul | in kdeglobals, under [System Tray] |
| 08:44.51 | Renze | ah ok |
| 08:46.05 | Renze | bah, it crops them at size 16 :( |
| 08:46.06 | logixoul | Renze: and a kicker restart won't do. you need to restart kde. |
| 08:46.10 | logixoul | yes, exactly. |
| 08:46.49 | logixoul | maybe if you remove the applet and readd it, it'll work too. |
| 08:47.01 | Renze | just messing around :D |
| 08:48.27 | Renze | now if I could just make it work like a taskbar too... :) |
| 08:49.05 | logixoul | Renze: you may like kasbar |
| 08:49.24 | Renze | I like parts of kasbar... just not the frames, or the numerous bugs |
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| 08:49.33 | logixoul | aha. |
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| 08:49.39 | Renze | if it was just icons on a transparent background, I'd be happy |
| 08:49.54 | Renze | I'm tempted to write a new taskbar applet that just does that |
| 08:50.02 | logixoul | it should be easy to hack the frames out |
| 08:50.22 | Renze | I don't need the text... just the icons |
| 08:50.32 | logixoul | does kasbar show text? |
| 08:50.37 | Renze | yes, at the top |
| 08:51.09 | logixoul | Renze: better wait for kde4 for that - the content and presentation will be separated then. |
| 08:51.19 | logixoul | so you won't need to fork the current taskbar. |
| 08:51.22 | Renze | true... but it's so long to wait :D |
| 08:52.19 | logixoul | things? what things? |
| 08:52.24 | Renze | GUI elements |
| 08:52.27 | benJIman|work | in Qt4.2 |
| 08:52.31 | logixoul | widgets |
| 08:52.33 | benJIman|work | see zack's blog. |
| 08:52.38 | logixoul | yes, read it |
| 08:52.51 | Renze | not just desktop widgets |
| 08:53.11 | logixoul | a QPushButton is called 'widget', too ;) |
| 08:53.30 | Renze | yes, but so many people misuse that word, it's better to be certain :P |
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| 08:53.38 | logixoul | prolly. |
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| 08:55.48 | Renze | who? |
| 08:56.05 | logixoul | the firefox project leader, i think. |
| 08:56.08 | Renze | ah |
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| 08:57.29 | logixoul | brb |
| 08:57.46 | Renze | ack! my braincells! |
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| 09:04.06 | logixoul | wee, my close window shortcut works. |
| 09:05.35 | logixoul | icwiener: you might want to report that |
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| 09:39.32 | vinboy | when is kde 3.5.5 going to be released? |
| 09:39.41 | logixoul | ~1week |
| 09:39.42 | pinotree | ~7 days |
| 09:39.44 | Renze | october 10th, or thereabouts |
| 09:39.46 | vinboy | thanks :) |
| 09:39.49 | nacer | villr[]ye, when is done :) |
| 09:39.53 | nacer | muhahahahah |
| 09:39.55 | nacer | :) |
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| 10:13.52 | Agiofws | where do i change languages in kde ? |
| 10:14.05 | Agiofws | couyld someone point it for me |
| 10:14.20 | logixoul | Agiofws: do a search for "language" in kcontrol to find the answer |
| 10:14.50 | Agiofws | is there a search option in kcontrol ? |
| 10:15.24 | logixoul | Agiofws: yes, see the "Search" field right over the list of configuration section on the left. |
| 10:15.44 | logixoul | Agiofws: it's not there on older versions, but i assume you got KDE 3.5.4 |
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| 10:23.49 | logixoul | s/on/in/ |
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| 10:29.42 | logixoul | i'm off |
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| 10:48.54 | _Shade_ | KDE 3,5,4 released ??? I thought it was done some time ago |
| 10:51.09 | pinotree | _Shade_: ? |
| 10:53.12 | pinotree | _Shade_: are you able to read dates or... ? |
| 10:55.25 | _Shade_ | pinotree: ah i didn't notice it's august |
| 10:56.36 | _Shade_ | i did a mistake because one of the news services had put that info in "latest" section :) |
| 10:57.20 | _Shade_ | and they did they twice so far :) |
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| 11:08.50 | ruxpin_ | how do I turn on the feature to display http links as letters with the ctrl key? |
| 11:09.00 | ruxpin_ | that was on before upgrading... |
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| 11:14.59 | leopartux | hi |
| 11:16.40 | leopartux | when i right click on a web page and choose "view document source" konqueror opens kate |
| 11:17.40 | leopartux | but i want konqueror to view it in its own window |
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| 12:13.14 | zorglu_ | q. i would like to change my kwallet password, how can i do that ? |
| 12:15.27 | Liquid_Fire | erm... open kwalletmanager, right click your wallet and select Change Password...? |
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| 12:18.41 | zorglu_ | thanks did the job. i was confused as i only used the applet menu option 'configure wallet' which doesnt provide this option |
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| 12:20.16 | xanax` | hello |
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| 12:22.14 | kenox | what is the value of $DISPLAY? |
| 12:22.48 | mark_alec | echo $DISPLAY |
| 12:23.12 | kenox | examples |
| 12:23.18 | zorglu_ | :0.0 |
| 12:23.27 | kenox | echo $DISPLAY gives :0.0 |
| 12:23.49 | kenox | but kde says $DISPLAY not set |
| 12:24.30 | zorglu_ | explain what do you mean by 'kde' in this case |
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| 12:24.42 | zorglu_ | how do you get this '$DISPLAY not set' |
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| 12:25.11 | kenox | well when starting kde with startx or startkde it says $display not set |
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| 12:25.48 | zorglu_ | ohok, personnaly i cant help you with 'custom starting' of X/kde |
| 12:26.07 | kenox | k |
| 12:26.11 | kenox | what is dcopclient |
| 12:26.24 | kenox | failed to connet to netwoek |
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| 12:27.37 | kenox | how to fix it? |
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| 13:15.30 | P-Luc_Auclair | what does "kerry" do exactly? |
| 13:16.36 | pinotree | kde frontend to the beagle index & search system |
| 13:17.18 | P-Luc_Auclair | is it similar to OsX search tool? |
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| 13:19.24 | lunitik | P-Luc_Auclair: umm... its similar... |
| 13:20.05 | P-Luc_Auclair | I was wondering since it's loading by default here and I wonder what it's supposed to be for... |
| 13:20.17 | lunitik | P-Luc_Auclair: SUSE? |
| 13:20.18 | pinotree | P-Luc_Auclair: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=36832&PHPSESSID=280a5afd18fc22c0010f5ef2043ffa36 |
| 13:20.20 | pinotree | grr |
| 13:20.22 | P-Luc_Auclair | funny thing is it doesn't even load beagle :P |
| 13:20.24 | pinotree | P-Luc_Auclair: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=36832 |
| 13:20.37 | lunitik | P-Luc_Auclair: yes it does... unless its not working |
| 13:20.39 | P-Luc_Auclair | lunitik, exactly |
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| 13:21.07 | lunitik | P-Luc_Auclair: I won't be using SUSE again until they stop requiring so many CD's :/ |
| 13:21.28 | P-Luc_Auclair | just put it on a dvd :) |
| 13:21.38 | P-Luc_Auclair | or do like me, use Smart |
| 13:21.39 | lunitik | I think their network install works... but is very unreliable in my experience |
| 13:21.41 | P-Luc_Auclair | much, much better |
| 13:22.00 | lunitik | P-Luc_Auclair: smart during install? not possible |
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| 13:22.23 | P-Luc_Auclair | ah, I thought you were talking about normal usage |
| 13:22.39 | lunitik | (Other than still working with python) |
| 13:23.01 | lunitik | I also think Python is too slow for package management... |
| 13:23.04 | P-Luc_Auclair | I don't know much of what he's doing |
| 13:23.51 | funkyou | how can i hide the menubar in konqueror permanently? when i disable it, it will be reenabled on next start... |
| 13:24.17 | P-Luc_Auclair | there must be some place to disable it in kdeinit or something |
| 13:24.33 | lunitik | funkyou: Settings "Save as default" or whatever |
| 13:24.41 | lunitik | funkyou: after removing it |
| 13:24.55 | funkyou | well, when i hide the menu there is no settings menu |
| 13:25.15 | lunitik | funkyou: ahh... why you wanna hide that menu? |
| 13:25.25 | lunitik | I was thinking you meant side panel... :/ |
| 13:25.30 | funkyou | i dont need it :) |
| 13:26.11 | P-Luc_Auclair | and beagle.. is it some kind of file indexing program? |
| 13:26.24 | lunitik | P-Luc_Auclair: yes |
| 13:27.14 | funkyou | i want konqueror look like this: http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/8691/bildschirmphoto1gv6.jpg |
| 13:27.16 | lunitik | ~beagle |
| 13:27.19 | apt | it has been said that beagle is the MasterIA PA-100, an SA1110 based PDA. See http://www.montavista.co.jp/partners/development_tools/master_ia.html, or a dog |
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| 13:27.29 | funkyou | now i just need to know how to hide the menubar permanently... |
| 13:27.35 | lunitik | umm... prolly not that link |
| 13:28.07 | P-Luc_Auclair | ;) |
| 13:28.14 | P-Luc_Auclair | beagle-project.org |
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| 13:29.26 | lunitik | apt: no beagle is A file indexing application written using mono, see www.beagle-project.org or a dog |
| 13:29.28 | apt | lunitik: okay |
| 13:29.35 | lunitik | ~beagle |
| 13:29.36 | apt | rumour has it, beagle is A file indexing application written using mono, see http://www.beagle-project.org or a dog |
| 13:29.46 | lunitik | ~botsnack |
| 13:29.46 | apt | aw, gee, lunitik |
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| 13:30.57 | lunitik | ~beagle s/A/a/ |
| 13:31.10 | lunitik | blah |
| 13:31.41 | pinotree | ~beagle chocolate |
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| 13:33.21 | lunitik | ~punish pinotree |
| 13:33.22 | apt | ACTION forces pinotree to install and use Windows |
| 13:33.44 | pinotree | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:34.01 | lunitik | Thats not very nice :( |
| 13:34.16 | lunitik | besides... I didn't even get to molest you yet :( |
| 13:34.27 | Liquid_Fire | neither is forcing someone to use Windows :) |
| 13:34.55 | lunitik | Liquid_Fire: you're going to be able to install KDE on Windows with KDE4 :/ |
| 13:35.07 | lunitik | pinotree: as was I ;) |
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| 13:36.12 | P-Luc_Auclair | I wonder why beagle was written as a GTK app... it's just a friggin indexing app. they should have made it just a server... |
| 13:36.53 | lunitik | P-Luc_Auclair: they seperated out the gui and backend... kerry just uses libbeagle |
| 13:37.01 | lunitik | or is it libeagle? |
| 13:37.19 | P-Luc_Auclair | depends how mean you want it to be |
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| 13:39.22 | lunitik | Also depends gamin here :/ |
| 13:39.43 | pinotree | lunitik: because beagle depends in glib |
| 13:39.50 | pinotree | <PROTECTED> |
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| 13:40.55 | lunitik | pinotree: libbeagle doesn't though |
| 13:41.25 | pinotree | ?? |
| 13:41.33 | lunitik | I tell a lie... kerry depends more of gnome than libbeagle0 though |
| 13:41.42 | pinotree | $ apt-cache show libbeagle0 | grep Depends |
| 13:41.42 | pinotree | Depends: libc6 (>= 2.3.6-6), libglib2.0-0 (>= 2.12.0), libxml2 (>= 2.6.26) |
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| 13:43.15 | ffesti | I am currently looking at KIO and KURL but I am missing an open(), close(), read(), write(), truncate() method. Has anyone seen them somewhere? |
| 13:43.40 | lunitik | ffesti: try #kde-devel perhaps? |
| 13:43.50 | ffesti | ok, thanks |
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| 13:43.57 | lunitik | ffesti: this is for general user issues |
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| 13:44.11 | ffesti | sorry for the noise |
| 13:44.43 | lunitik | ffesti: no need to apologize... just directing you at a more useful place :) |
| 13:48.48 | greister | fonts.conf can substitute qtconfig.and qtconfig would be usless? |
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| 13:56.25 | P-Luc_Auclair | is there a substitute to ARK |
| 14:00.16 | greister | You can use fonts.conf to substitute ARK. |
| 14:00.31 | P-Luc_Auclair | :\ |
| 14:00.57 | pinotree | ¬.¬ |
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| 14:20.19 | manchicken | Is there a config that will force web pages and file browser to use separate windows? |
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| 14:26.03 | drivetheory | hey everyone |
| 14:26.18 | drivetheory | Anyone know how to adjust the KDE desktop Grid Spacing? |
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| 14:35.17 | Howitzer | Is it possible to make Konqueror move tabs around like Firefox 1.5? (When i try to move a tab, it just opens a new tab with the same url) |
| 14:35.30 | benJIman|work | Howitzer: I don't think it is no. |
| 14:35.43 | Howitzer | damn :( |
| 14:35.54 | Tm_T | not just dragging |
| 14:36.03 | benJIman|work | Tm_T: is there another way> |
| 14:36.08 | Tm_T | but I use keyboard to that |
| 14:36.17 | Howitzer | i've been browsing for a week with Konqueror and that's the only that's still bothering me |
| 14:36.32 | Tm_T | Howitzer: ctrl-shift-arrows, try it |
| 14:36.43 | Tm_T | that's how it's here, dunno about your shortcut settings |
| 14:36.46 | Howitzer | ooeh |
| 14:36.48 | Howitzer | nice |
| 14:36.50 | Howitzer | ty |
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| 14:36.58 | benJIman|work | well you learn something every day. |
| 14:37.05 | Tm_T | heh |
| 14:37.16 | Howitzer | especially with Linux ^_^ |
| 14:37.18 | Tm_T | reading shortcut settings through is always good idea |
| 14:37.32 | benJIman|work | yeah I have read that before, clearly missed that one though. |
| 14:37.36 | Tm_T | I'm almost sure there was way to do it with mouse too |
| 14:37.44 | Howitzer | but the shortcut lists never really make any sense to me though |
| 14:38.03 | Howitzer | the description doesn't really link to the function imho |
| 14:38.05 | benJIman|work | my konqueror tabs is to assign alt+num to switch to tab <num> in settings -> configure konqueror, then you get irssi style tabbing. |
| 14:38.17 | Tm_T | yes, middle button + drag |
| 14:38.25 | Howitzer | YES |
| 14:38.28 | Howitzer | thank you! |
| 14:38.29 | benJIman|work | Howitzer: you can always suggest replacement strings/translations. |
| 14:38.36 | Tm_T | Howitzer: no prob |
| 14:38.50 | Tm_T | Howitzer: these are the things I like to share ;) |
| 14:39.19 | Howitzer | oooeh |
| 14:39.19 | Howitzer | and it's consistent too! |
| 14:39.19 | Howitzer | it works the same in Konversation |
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| 14:39.52 | benJIman|work | you can customize it in each app though |
| 14:40.38 | Liquid_Fire | heh, didn't know that |
| 14:41.21 | Liquid_Fire | useful :) (i actually like how it doesn't switch to the tab you're dragging, like firefox) |
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| 14:42.35 | benJIman|work | yeah also open in new tab doesn't switch, that's very annoying in firefox |
| 14:42.46 | Howitzer | heh |
| 14:43.05 | Howitzer | i'm used to Firefox so generally, i'll find Konqueror's way annoying |
| 14:43.20 | Howitzer | but i didn't even notice it does it differently |
| 14:43.30 | Dr_willis | i normally dont want to switch to the new tabs i open. |
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| 14:43.54 | Dr_willis | I read throught a site.. open a few other links in new tabs.. to 'rember to look at them in detail' :) |
| 14:43.57 | benJIman|work | I'll go down a google search going open in new tab, open in new tab, firefox switching to the tabs is annoying. |
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| 15:01.05 | lunitik | Sho_: congrats on new release of Konversation by the way :) |
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| 15:01.38 | Sho_ | lunitik: Doesn't feel so new anymore after more than a month ;) |
| 15:01.42 | Sho_ | thanks though :) |
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| 15:11.29 | Przemcio78 | i want kde 3.5.5 |
| 15:11.29 | pinotree | wait ~7 days |
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| 15:11.36 | annma | Przemcio78: why? |
| 15:11.41 | Przemcio78 | 7 days??? |
| 15:11.52 | pinotree | Przemcio78: yeah |
| 15:11.55 | Przemcio78 | i don't have that much time |
| 15:11.56 | annma | Przemcio78: why the rush>? what are you waiting for? |
| 15:12.08 | cbr | i have kde 3.5.5 :p |
| 15:12.13 | Tiger | Przemcio78 is our beta tester lol ;) |
| 15:12.23 | pinotree | Przemcio78: give devels the time to test it... |
| 15:12.26 | cbr | $ kde-config -v |
| 15:12.26 | cbr | Qt: 3.3.6 |
| 15:12.26 | cbr | KDE: 3.5.5 |
| 15:12.36 | Przemcio78 | i want co recompile some stuff that's ehy i'm waiting for kde 3.5.5 |
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| 15:13.13 | annma | Qt: 3.3.6 |
| 15:13.16 | annma | KDE: 3.5.4 |
| 15:13.17 | annma | damn |
| 15:13.20 | Tiger | ^^ |
| 15:13.22 | Przemcio78 | these are the last 9 days i have access to my computer |
| 15:13.22 | annma | i did not svn up recently |
| 15:13.32 | annma | Przemcio78: get svn |
| 15:13.35 | Przemcio78 | i won't need kde after 9 days |
| 15:13.40 | cbr | the 3.5.5 packages will be in debian sid tomorrow |
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| 15:14.07 | Przemcio78 | cbr: are kubuntu packages ready to use? |
| 15:14.25 | cbr | Przemcio78: i have no idea as i don't use kubuntu |
| 15:14.53 | Przemcio78 | kubuntu.org/packages, there are sources everyone can get and compile |
| 15:15.13 | annma | Przemcio78: you can get the sources from kde svn |
| 15:15.55 | pinotree | Przemcio78: we're still #kde, not #kubuntu, so we don't know about kde packages for distros |
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| 15:16.20 | SimAtWork | Przemcio78: what happens in 9 dyas? |
| 15:16.25 | Przemcio78 | actually, i'm an ex-kubuntu user |
| 15:17.47 | Przemcio78 | there are sources on kubuntu site , so it may interest anybody |
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| 15:19.07 | edgy | Hi, I started klettres but can't hear any sound though sound works in my system, how can I trace this? |
| 15:20.37 | edgy | this is ubuntu dapper |
| 15:20.51 | pinotree | annma: this is for you ^^ |
| 15:20.55 | Przemcio78 | ubuntu=gnome |
| 15:21.13 | pinotree | ubuntu=distro |
| 15:21.30 | edgy | Przemcio78, pinotree: then this kubuntu |
| 15:21.32 | edgy | ;) |
| 15:22.00 | Przemcio78 | distro which uses gnome as its desktop environment |
| 15:22.21 | Przemcio78 | thats why ubuntu=gnome |
| 15:22.30 | pinotree | apt-get install kde |
| 15:22.34 | pinotree | or better |
| 15:22.40 | pinotree | apt-get install kubuntu-desktop |
| 15:22.42 | Przemcio78 | pinotree: bullshit |
| 15:22.51 | greister | Where to get konqueror's plug in ? |
| 15:22.53 | pinotree | and voilà, your ubuntu becomes a kubuntu |
| 15:23.02 | edgy | pinotree: exactly |
| 15:23.02 | Przemcio78 | yes, kubuntu-desktop is the right choice |
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| 15:23.22 | edgy | so what's wrong with me? |
| 15:23.35 | pinotree | Przemcio78: the only difference is a) the defaul installed packages b) the artwork |
| 15:24.04 | pinotree | Przemcio78: so, your will to tag as "bullshit" ubuntu is quite aggressize and offtopic |
| 15:24.04 | manchicken | Is there a config that will force web pages and file browser to use separate windows? |
| 15:24.11 | Przemcio78 | pinotree: yes, both use the same repositories |
| 15:24.17 | pinotree | it's *ALWAYS* a linux disto |
| 15:24.40 | pinotree | edgy: nothing with you, of course |
| 15:25.51 | pinotree | edgy: try artsplay /usr/share/sounds/KDE_Startup_1.ogg in a console |
| 15:26.01 | pinotree | if that works, also klettres should |
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| 15:27.30 | edgy | pinotree: ok thx a lot. that worked and now klettres worked after I deactivated and reactivated the kde sound system. |
| 15:27.41 | pinotree | :) |
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| 15:59.03 | Ze_M | in where is possible to set the kde font codifictation, set utf-8 or not? |
| 15:59.19 | pinotree | the charset? |
| 15:59.39 | Pupeno_ | How is the koffice image manipulation program called ? |
| 15:59.58 | pinotree | Pupeno_: raster graphics, krita; vector graphics, karbon14 |
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| 16:00.05 | Pupeno_ | pinotree: thanks. |
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| 16:00.59 | paoleela_work | pinotree, Ze_M: I have also a charset problem: I started kile and my last project has all special characters damaged. Meanwhile I just copied the files with konqueror but that shouldn't affect |
| 16:01.24 | annma | utf8 must be set globally threough LANG |
| 16:01.28 | Ze_M | pinotree: yes the charset |
| 16:02.02 | Ze_M | isnt possible to set that through kcontrol? |
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| 16:02.36 | pinotree | no |
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| 16:02.43 | benJIman|work | Ze_M: no use you rdistribution tools to change it. |
| 16:02.51 | nik | hm, what's new in 3.5.5? |
| 16:02.54 | benJIman|work | most distros default to utf8, notable exception being debian. |
| 16:03.01 | nik | or the buxfixes.. |
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| 16:03.32 | annma | mandriva does not set it to utf8 neither |
| 16:03.33 | pinotree | nik: http://www.kde.org/announcements/changelogs/changelog3_5_4to3_5_5.php |
| 16:04.04 | cbr | can konqueror have mplayerplug-in (which is in gtk+) run in it? |
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| 16:04.36 | pinotree | mplayer is not gtk |
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| 16:05.39 | catbooted | i wonder what wonderful app is only available for Linux? |
| 16:05.39 | cbr | but the plugin is using it as it's gui toolkit |
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| 16:06.14 | paoleela_work | here is LANG=de_DE@euro, kile's editor is set to KDE-Default, and Default encoding is set to utf8. What should I set that better? |
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| 16:06.25 | nik | pinotree: thx, the khtml changes are interesting :) |
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| 16:12.01 | nik | wow new design on kde.org, looks much better xD |
| 16:13.19 | Q-collective | it does! |
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| 16:14.09 | paoleela_work | Suddenly when I reopened a kile project my german special characters are damaged, also if I reopen that in kate. But vim still diplays the right file. What wrong here? |
| 16:15.04 | nik | "When you middle-click in Konqueror, you can autoscroll a web page." is this new? how to use is? it happens nothing if I middle-click on a long website |
| 16:15.20 | annma | paoleela_work: kile and kate are set to default utf8? |
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| 16:17.48 | MetaMorfoziS | all things in kde setted by default to the shitty utf8 |
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| 16:19.01 | MetaMorfoziS | and like ie in windows, it have a totally useless default browser, everywhere. |
| 16:19.21 | E-Jey | Hi, when I copy a file between two harddrives, i get the error: Could not change permissions for <file> |
| 16:19.26 | E-Jey | Hoe can I solve this? |
| 16:19.29 | paoleela_work | anma: kile's editor is set to KDE-Standard, whereas default encoding (which kate doesn't have) is set to utf8 |
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| 16:19.35 | MetaMorfoziS | E-Jey: in where? |
| 16:19.39 | MetaMorfoziS | what program? |
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| 16:20.00 | E-Jey | when I move files with Konqueror |
| 16:20.07 | MetaMorfoziS | in mc you are able to dis-check the checkbox -> set permissionsiircs the same way in krusader |
| 16:20.20 | paoleela_work | anma: locale is LC_ALL=de_DE@euro and vi shows the file fine with all characters. |
| 16:20.23 | MetaMorfoziS | i'm not use krusader, i tell you the same. |
| 16:20.31 | MetaMorfoziS | use firefox and krusader, forget konq. |
| 16:20.49 | MetaMorfoziS | not krusader that i'm not use, i'm not use konqueror... bah |
| 16:20.52 | E-Jey | krusader? Never heard of it |
| 16:20.57 | MetaMorfoziS | tryit |
| 16:21.04 | MetaMorfoziS | http://krusader.org |
| 16:21.19 | MetaMorfoziS | a powerful twinpanel filemanager |
| 16:22.10 | MetaMorfoziS | what distro did you use? kubuntu? (because it have the old (1.60) version of krusader in the repos) |
| 16:22.11 | E-Jey | But what is "MC" ?? |
| 16:22.18 | E-Jey | I use ubuntu |
| 16:22.21 | MetaMorfoziS | mc : midnight commander |
| 16:22.28 | E-Jey | but i've installed KDE-desktop later |
| 16:22.29 | MetaMorfoziS | a commandline twinpanel filemanager tool |
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| 16:22.58 | MetaMorfoziS | it's graphical, but console-graphical... i hope you understand my bad english:) |
| 16:23.12 | E-Jey | yes, I understand |
| 16:23.21 | MetaMorfoziS | okay, so download the source and build it, or download a debian deb and install it |
| 16:23.30 | paoleela_work | annma: Maybe restart kde? |
| 16:23.39 | E-Jey | I've already installed it with APT |
| 16:23.52 | MetaMorfoziS | I SAID IT'S OLD! |
| 16:24.01 | MetaMorfoziS | 1.60 is very old and very buggy! |
| 16:24.51 | Q-collective | 1.60 of what? |
| 16:25.05 | E-Jey | krusader |
| 16:25.13 | Q-collective | heh |
| 16:26.05 | MetaMorfoziS | E-jey, read that i write. and do that... you are have a buggy and often crasher program... but for me it's not important... |
| 16:26.58 | E-Jey | I'n now installing the deb from krusader.org |
| 16:27.39 | MetaMorfoziS | sorry, i'm very angry and depressed. |
| 16:28.17 | E-Jey | lol, no problem... |
| 16:28.28 | pinotree | dude, take a valium or what else |
| 16:28.54 | MetaMorfoziS | what is that? |
| 16:28.57 | pinotree | but don't help people if you are angry, depressed and susceptible |
| 16:29.30 | MetaMorfoziS | btw i need two heads: one of gnome main developer and one of konqueror main developer, and i drop it to the trash... |
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| 16:29.46 | pinotree | why? |
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| 16:30.14 | MetaMorfoziS | i'm hate all useless programs in the world:/ |
| 16:30.16 | E-Jey | I'm going to eat. Krusader looks nice, thanks for your help MetaMorfoziS |
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| 16:30.31 | Renacor | is there any way to troubleshoot amarok, I start it and the splash screen comes and goes but the app never starts? |
| 16:30.32 | MetaMorfoziS | not at all E-Jey |
| 16:30.52 | Renacor | I upgraded from 1.4.0 to 1.4.5 and then downgraded to 1.4.0 again and now it's borked =( |
| 16:31.18 | pinotree | Renacor: amarok 1.4.5 does not exist... |
| 16:31.23 | MetaMorfoziS | Renacor: it is the beginning, if yoou have started it with pain in the ass, the next problem is that unable to play any media... i'm hate amarok:) |
| 16:32.49 | Renacor | pinotree: Im sorry, I meant amarok-1.4.3-r1 |
| 16:33.02 | pinotree | :> |
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| 16:33.35 | pinotree | most probably amarok 1.4.0 can't read something of a newer version |
| 16:33.55 | Renacor | I tried running it with --wizard but that didn't help either |
| 16:34.17 | pinotree | try removing (BE CAREFUL AT PERSONAL DATA AND SETTINGS) .kde/share/apps/amarok/ and .kde/share/config/amarokrc |
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| 16:34.31 | pinotree | first try moving them to a safe place |
| 16:34.37 | Renacor | k |
| 16:34.39 | MetaMorfoziS | use other program, that /10 size of that crap, and start within half hours, and don't eat your cpu like konqueror, and can play music! |
| 16:34.53 | MetaMorfoziS | and it's better for you, and for we... |
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| 16:35.58 | pinotree | MetaMorfoziS: choose a) calm down b) prepare receiving a kick in the ass |
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| 16:36.18 | MetaMorfoziS | why? because its true? |
| 16:36.25 | Renacor | wooooooot! |
| 16:36.33 | pinotree | no |
| 16:36.36 | Renacor | pinotree: Awesome that did the trick |
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| 16:36.54 | pinotree | MetaMorfoziS: because your way or speaking ios quite rude and unpolish |
| 16:36.59 | pinotree | ios -> is |
| 16:37.04 | Renacor | MetaMorfoziS: Amarok is the best thing out there that I have found especially organization wise |
| 16:37.31 | pinotree | MetaMorfoziS: if Renacor want to use amarok even if it eats resources, cpu or whatever, let him use it |
| 16:38.06 | pinotree | we're *free software*, we've the *FREEDOM* to choose what program use |
| 16:38.15 | pinotree | understand or not? |
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| 16:38.46 | MetaMorfoziS | pinotree:okay, i'm not 100% at this time, sorry all, i'm part temporairly to precede more incidents |
| 16:38.53 | MetaMorfoziS | sorry i'm translated slow. |
| 16:38.55 | MetaMorfoziS | bbb |
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| 16:39.20 | pinotree | thanks |
| 16:39.28 | paoleela_work | KDE cannot read the text files anymore that I have written with kde. kate and kile show damaged characters while vi still shows the files fine. |
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| 16:57.47 | SimAtWork | but it's only 10am |
| 16:57.51 | SimAtWork | i'll have to settle for breakfast :( |
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| 17:03.16 | nik | long time ago I could close a tab of konqueror by middle-clicking the tab...I think there was something to do in a config file...which and what? |
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| 17:57.24 | ArvineClone | hi, i have a simple KDE question |
| 17:57.32 | ArvineClone | which file contains the global shortcuts? |
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| 18:05.35 | emss | ArvineClone: try using lsof to see what files kcontrol has open: e.g. lsof -p $(pidof kcontrol) |
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| 18:08.10 | emss | ArvineClone: ~/.kde/share/config/kdeglobals |
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| 18:08.42 | ArvineClone | ok, i thought it was kdeglobals, but some of the global shortcuts are not showing in there |
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| 18:14.00 | zorglu_ | q. i look for a command that i dont remember, it was to refresh the kmenu from a command line, ksyscacao or close |
| 18:14.04 | zorglu_ | any suggestion ? |
| 18:14.19 | pinotree | kbuildsycoca |
| 18:14.25 | zorglu_ | thanks |
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| 18:15.36 | Smak | Has anyone found a way to not have kmail grab or mark email sent through gmail, as new mail? I have this nasty effect of sending an email through gmail, and then kmail saying I have a new message. Any fixes for this? |
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| 18:18.12 | yalu | how can I disable the ctrl-Fn shortcut keys for switching to virtual desktops please? |
| 18:18.54 | MinceR | syscacao lol |
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| 18:19.08 | Smak | yalu: #xorg may be of some help if you don't find any here. |
| 18:21.39 | nik | some sites are wrong displayed by konqueror, see http://evir.de/konquerorbugs/ ...how to fix? |
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| 18:24.52 | Smak | konqueror isn't a bad browser, but I use firefox. Since I use multiple machines throughout the day some linux, some windows, some macs, I try to keep my browsing experience the same. |
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| 18:33.46 | Dr_willis | and with the right bookmark sync extensions.. :P its much nicer. |
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| 18:37.37 | tdn | I am trying to get my KDE to look like Mac OSX. I have instaled baghira and it looks nice, but how do I get the menu bar at the top of the screen? Is that possible at all? I have an example of how it looks here: http://www.oberlin.edu/OCTET/HowTo/DataProj/images/MacOSX - Set up Show.jpg |
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| 18:39.04 | kucrut | tdn: right click desktop > configure > behaviour > check "current application's menu bar) ? |
| 18:39.21 | Dr_willis | tdn, thats a setting i saw just the other day in the config stuff. :P |
| 18:39.26 | Dr_willis | I HATE the os-x look and feel. :) |
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| 18:44.27 | tdn | kucrut, ok. Thanks. |
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| 18:53.52 | lebifteksauvage | howto use back/forward mouse button with konqueror ? i use imwheel but it doesn't work ... firefox work well |
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| 18:55.48 | dom | hi |
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| 18:56.09 | dom | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:56.20 | dom | or at least a ssh-askpass that is? |
| 18:56.35 | Dr_willis | Hmm - i seem to recall some kde-ssh client.. but never used it |
| 18:57.15 | Aji-Dahaka | so ... does fish:// handle ACLs ? |
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| 18:59.18 | benJIman | Aji-Dahaka: you can't set them using the permissions dialogue over fish, but afaik it preserves them. |
| 18:59.58 | Aji-Dahaka | hmm... |
| 19:00.05 | Aji-Dahaka | I should work on fish, then, huh? |
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| 19:02.25 | thiago | dom: no |
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| 19:04.50 | Aji-Dahaka | dom: look into ssh keys |
| 19:04.56 | Aji-Dahaka | and keyrings |
| 19:05.12 | dom | Aji-Dahaka: I've got plenty of ssh keys |
| 19:05.23 | Aji-Dahaka | and a keyring? |
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| 19:06.57 | dom | hmm, I'm not sure what a keyring is in SSH |
| 19:07.32 | dom | my ssh keys are in authorized_keys files on various systems i connect to |
| 19:07.53 | dom | i have ssh-add run on login so my keys are added to the ssh agent |
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| 19:08.43 | dom | however, this requires a passphrase for the ssh key which is in addtion to my login password and my kwallet password which i already have to provide |
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| 19:09.32 | thiago | dom: if you can write a ssh-askpass + kwallet integration, it'll be well accepted |
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| 19:09.48 | thiago | or ssh-agent itself (i.e., storing the unencrypted keys in kwallet) |
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| 19:19.07 | dom | i wish i could, thiago. i definately don't have the ability though :( |
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| 19:19.30 | dom | i can't even spell, apparently |
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| 19:26.13 | Aji-Dahaka | rofl |
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| 19:31.18 | main2 | in what config file are the keyboard-shortcuts located (which one in ~/.kde/share/config |
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| 19:33.44 | Pinaraf | Am I alone with a stupid dependency bug in the amaroK 1.4.3 debian (unstable) package ? |
| 19:33.49 | Pinaraf | It's relying on xmms :/ |
| 19:34.29 | Pinaraf | s/relying/depending |
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| 19:35.03 | Smak | main2: I agree... there should be a interface in KControl->Peripherals->keyboard |
| 19:36.01 | main2 | Smak: sorry? |
| 19:36.11 | benJIman | Smak: it's in regional & accessability -> keyboard shortcuts |
| 19:36.15 | main2 | my kcontrol crashes when i click on the keyboard shortcuts tab |
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| 19:36.22 | main2 | so i wanne delete the config file behind it |
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| 19:39.00 | Smak | benJIman: thanks... |
| 19:39.39 | main2 | LMFFAAOO |
| 19:39.42 | benJIman | Smak: if you search for keyboard it finds it, the search is useful. |
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| 19:44.32 | PhilRod | main2: are you using svn? |
| 19:44.44 | PhilRod | i mean, the svn version of kde |
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| 19:47.59 | main2 | PhilRod: im using the latest version from the kde repos for dapper |
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| 19:53.41 | PhilRod | main2: there was a bug which caused that behaviour, but I thought it was only in svn versions. Give me a minute |
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| 19:58.21 | MinceR | yay, i've managed to kill kcontrol |
| 19:58.29 | MinceR | saved a theme as user, loaded it as root |
| 19:58.35 | MinceR | and now it's unusable :> |
| 19:58.50 | main2 | PhilRod: im using the latest dapper repos from this url .. http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-stable |
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| 19:59.29 | GeniACK | @ xLoader: why you are gone? |
| 19:59.32 | GeniACK | :( |
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| 20:00.44 | xLoader | @GeniACK: when you leave,I left too |
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| 20:01.11 | PhilRod | main2: perhaps the bug was in a released version - I'll see if I can find out |
| 20:01.22 | GeniACK | xLoader i got disconnected by my unreliable internet.. :( |
| 20:01.31 | PhilRod | main2: actually, please create a new user, run kde with that user, and tell me if the same crash occurs |
| 20:01.36 | PhilRod | might save me a few minutes |
| 20:01.58 | xLoader | GeniACK: hmm I thought you left |
| 20:02.07 | main2 | PhilRod: i could access it last week - till i switched my keyboard i think |
| 20:02.25 | main2 | i went from ps2 keyboard (connected on KVM switch) to a usb directly connected |
| 20:02.41 | GeniACK | if you want you can come back otherwise bye! |
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| 20:03.06 | MinceR | when running kcontrol as root, attempting to set an iconset makes kcontrol freeze |
| 20:03.49 | claire | Bye! |
| 20:04.16 | PhilRod | main2: ok, does sound like a config problem, but could you try with a new user so we can be sure? |
| 20:05.13 | main2 | PhilRod: ok :-)) |
| 20:05.48 | MinceR | now i can't run kcontrol _as user_. |
| 20:05.56 | MinceR | there's something really screwy going on here. |
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| 20:08.26 | PhilRod | main2: the code introducing that bug was committed (ie, added to the kde source code repository) on Aug 21, well after 3.5.4 was released |
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| 20:08.38 | PhilRod | so I suppose you're not seeing that problem |
| 20:08.47 | PhilRod | but still run that check I suggested |
| 20:09.00 | PhilRod | MinceR: you can try a new user too :-) |
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| 20:09.45 | MinceR | seems that now i can't run two instances as different users on the same display... a few minutes ago i could |
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| 20:12.09 | MinceR | now it refuses to use the Crystal decorations. My KDE is dying. |
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| 20:14.15 | main2 | PhilRod: with a newly created user, same shit :( |
| 20:14.19 | PhilRod | MinceR: check that you aren't running out of harddisk space or something |
| 20:14.27 | PhilRod | main2: that's weird |
| 20:14.37 | MinceR | /dev/hdc1 39G 9.8G 29G 26% / |
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| 20:15.22 | PhilRod | main2: what's the output of "kde-config --version" |
| 20:15.24 | PhilRod | ? |
| 20:15.33 | PhilRod | MinceR: ok, try a new user then |
| 20:15.38 | main2 | Qt: 3.3.6 |
| 20:15.38 | main2 | KDE: 3.5.4 |
| 20:15.38 | main2 | kde-config: 1.0 |
| 20:15.57 | MinceR | i'll restart my session |
| 20:16.13 | MinceR | and contemplate designing a DE that actually works. |
| 20:17.25 | PhilRod | good luck with that |
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| 20:18.35 | main2 | PhilRod: any idea's for the rest? :D |
| 20:19.10 | MinceR | restarting fixed it. |
| 20:19.19 | MinceR | this is starting to be just like windoze. :/ |
| 20:21.31 | MinceR | well, that's the easy cop-out |
| 20:21.46 | MinceR | probably a lot easier than designing robust software. |
| 20:21.56 | PhilRod | well, if you can reproduce the problem, and provide reason to show that it's a KDE problem, please file a bug |
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| 20:24.42 | MinceR | one of the main problems is that i can't reproduce it |
| 20:24.48 | MinceR | it keeps working different every time |
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| 20:27.57 | PhilRod | *shrug* I've never heard of a similar problem, so perhaps it's a one-off, or config problem, or something |
| 20:30.53 | MinceR | i still can't set icons for root. |
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| 20:40.43 | eNTi | hey fellas. is kdemultimedia supporting gstreamer 0.10.x anytime soon? |
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| 20:43.23 | Renze | eNTi: as a backend for phonon in kde4, perhaps... but it is unlikely to happen in 3.x |
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| 20:50.21 | eNTi | ok |
| 20:50.21 | eNTi | thx |
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| 20:58.41 | fabio | Hi all! |
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| 21:04.33 | nik | Do someone use kpowersave 0.6.2-3 and dbus 0.93-1? kpowersave says that dbus is not running...and there are not really some menu entries (rightclick...) |
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| 21:05.15 | nik | (archlinux) |
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| 21:19.40 | rapsys | Hi are kde dev here ? |
| 21:19.49 | rapsys | I have a problem with khtml engine |
| 21:19.52 | rapsys | a HUGE bug |
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| 21:20.44 | PhilRod | describe it, we'll see if anyone can reproduce it |
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| 21:24.14 | rapsys | khtml don't honnor the disabled="disabled" tag or the <select><option value="forbidden" disabled="disabled">forbidden</option><option value="allowed">Allowed</option></select> |
| 21:24.24 | rapsys | http://trunk.rapsys.be/bug_report.html |
| 21:24.41 | rapsys | http://84.97.19.96/bug_report.html (or this one if it don't work) |
| 21:26.14 | PhilRod | confirmed |
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| 21:26.29 | PhilRod | file a bug repor |
| 21:26.32 | PhilRod | report |
| 21:27.04 | Renze | try it without the ="disabled" part, since it is just a boolean |
| 21:27.07 | rapsys | ok, plz confirm it |
| 21:27.17 | rapsys | Renze: xhtml1.1 |
| 21:27.30 | Renze | ah, I'm looking at the html 4.0 spec |
| 21:28.33 | rapsys | same behaviour in html4.0 |
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| 21:36.45 | rapsys | https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=76489 <= bug is there |
| 21:36.51 | rapsys | it seems it's a regression |
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| 21:38.02 | main2 | PhilRod: i should wait a 'bit' till a new release comes out? |
| 21:38.02 | pinotree | rapsys: not really, did you read better? |
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| 21:38.12 | main2 | (keyboard shortcuts problem..) |
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| 21:39.16 | rapsys | pinotree: it seems have work in 2003, but there is a problem with multiple selection list (qt issue) |
| 21:39.32 | pinotree | rapsys: read comment #4 |
| 21:39.41 | rapsys | and now there is a regression (from my point of view) |
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| 21:40.32 | pinotree | rapsys: again, read comment #4 |
| 21:40.33 | rapsys | pinotree: so I need to conclude that it will not beeing fixed in qt3 so never in kde3.x |
| 21:41.05 | pinotree | from what i could say, it seems quite difficult |
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| 21:41.07 | rapsys | will have wait for kde4 with qt4 that have the possibility in Qcombobox ? |
| 21:41.13 | pinotree | but i'm not a khtml developer |
| 21:41.37 | pinotree | rapsys: better go and ask in #khtml |
| 21:41.56 | PhilRod | main2: hrm, I guess that's all you can hope for |
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| 21:42.32 | main2 | PhilRod: ill ask a friend with the same version if he has it as well =) |
| 21:42.53 | tafsen | I can't start kaffeine. But when I start kaffeine in the terminal I get no errors. What do I do? |
| 21:43.54 | Renze | tafsen: check ~/.xsession-errors |
| 21:43.55 | PhilRod | tafsen: rename ~/.kde/share/config/kaffeinerc and perhaps ~/.kde/share/apps/kaffeine/ |
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| 21:44.30 | tafsen | PhilRod, rename it to what? |
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| 21:44.58 | PhilRod | anything you like - then kaffeine won't try to use those config files when it starts up next time |
| 21:45.10 | tafsen | can just delete it? |
| 21:45.30 | PhilRod | if you want, though you might want to put it back if renaming it doesn't help |
| 21:45.43 | Maccco | Do you remeber about me? I had the problem some devices in /dev/ changed owner/group when logging into kde with kdm |
| 21:45.51 | PhilRod | which is of course impossible if you've deleted it :-) |
| 21:45.59 | PhilRod | !sleep |
| 21:46.09 | pinotree | night PhilRod |
| 21:46.28 | tafsen | didn't help =\ |
| 21:46.45 | rapsys | Ok, I asked on khtml channel I hope to see answer tomorow |
| 21:47.00 | rapsys | tafsen: try to run in with : Alt+f2 |
| 21:47.01 | Smak | Any votes on svn clients for kde? Ksvn or other? |
| 21:47.08 | rapsys | check option run in a terminal |
| 21:47.28 | rapsys | if it block try run : strace kaffeine |
| 21:47.36 | rapsys | and look where it block |
| 21:47.47 | tafsen | what do you meen by blocks? |
| 21:48.49 | tafsen | strace: command not found |
| 21:50.06 | rapsys | urpmi strace |
| 21:50.12 | rapsys | apt-get install strace |
| 21:50.22 | Maccco | emerge strace |
| 21:50.30 | rapsys | if kaffeine don't start there should be a problem somewhere |
| 21:50.31 | tafsen | emerge? |
| 21:50.44 | tafsen | pacman -S strace |
| 21:50.45 | rapsys | your favorite distribution install package tool |
| 21:51.01 | rapsys | strace allow to trace all startup call |
| 21:51.12 | rapsys | like file/library/etc open |
| 21:51.37 | rapsys | anyway I never use kaffeine that I trust to sucks |
| 21:51.51 | rapsys | I prefer kmplayer+mplayer+win32-codecs |
| 21:52.18 | tafsen | kmplayer? |
| 21:52.22 | tafsen | I'll check it out |
| 21:52.50 | rapsys | it's a stupid wrapper on mplayer player |
| 21:53.02 | tafsen | btw, do you have any experience with the mplayer-plugin to firefox? |
| 21:53.10 | Maccco | What's the problem? |
| 21:53.21 | rapsys | (but that the only way I found to have mouse hidden when playing next movie of a playlist without moving the mouse) |
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| 21:53.44 | rapsys | you will need mplayerplugin |
| 21:53.50 | rapsys | or something like that module |
| 21:54.10 | rapsys | but kmplayer will makes video player works out of the box in konqueror |
| 21:54.21 | Maccco | kmplayer is good |
| 21:54.22 | tafsen | the problem is that I ain't able to play streams. It just tries to connect 3 times before it stops |
| 21:54.32 | tafsen | and every time it plays like 1-2ms of the stream |
| 21:54.42 | rapsys | tafsen: which kind of stream ? |
| 21:54.52 | rapsys | mplayer don't support flv streams at all (yet) |
| 21:54.55 | Maccco | post here the stram url |
| 21:55.08 | rapsys | you need save the file and open it on disk if it's a flv |
| 21:55.09 | tafsen | streams that I know work on other with the same plug-in |
| 21:55.12 | Maccco | rapsys, mplayer play flv well |
| 21:55.21 | Maccco | ah ok |
| 21:55.31 | Maccco | Save it to disk, and play them |
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| 21:56.25 | Maccco | If you are trying to play youtube files you should download that nice script in kde-apps.org that add an action to your konqueror popup menu. (save video as .flv) |
| 21:56.52 | tafsen | mms://straumOD.nrk.no/root02/Musikk/2005-12-05/Mira_Craig_stagedive_900_129651_20051205_144148.wmv |
| 21:57.10 | rapsys | tafsen: bad news |
| 21:57.22 | rapsys | mms protected by drm streams are UNSUPPORTED ! |
| 21:57.28 | tafsen | =\ |
| 21:57.42 | Maccco | i can play that link well |
| 21:57.58 | tafsen | *confused* |
| 21:58.03 | rapsys | tafsen: here it works |
| 21:58.16 | rapsys | but you will need the win32-codecs pack |
| 21:58.16 | Maccco | tafsen, why don't you pastebin here your mplayer output? |
| 21:58.28 | rapsys | and the source is realy slow from here... |
| 21:58.35 | Maccco | open a console and type "mplayer mms://straumOD.nrk.no/root02/Musikk/2005-12-05/Mira_Craig_stagedive_900_129651_20051205_144148.wmv" |
| 21:59.05 | rapsys | tafsen: you need win32-codecs pack |
| 21:59.13 | Maccco | then copy the output and use the pastebin.com site |
| 21:59.18 | rapsys | and you can't have it works on a ppc/x86_64 |
| 21:59.29 | Maccco | ah... ppc |
| 22:00.06 | tafsen | no |
| 22:00.10 | tafsen | 686 |
| 22:00.29 | tafsen | but It worked when I typed that in the console |
| 22:00.29 | rapsys | then install the win32-codecs package (or similar name) |
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| 22:00.40 | rapsys | the files are put in /var/lib/win32 |
| 22:00.57 | rapsys | the files are put in /usr/lib/win32 <= this path |
| 22:01.20 | Maccco | rapsys, he says it worked |
| 22:01.42 | Maccco | he already has |
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| 22:01.51 | tafsen | http://rafb.net/paste/results/9Wu2Rd24.html |
| 22:01.59 | rapsys | erf, it's not possible to have it works in console and not in kmplayer |
| 22:02.10 | tafsen | It tells me that my system is to slow |
| 22:02.25 | tafsen | I havn't tried kmplayer |
| 22:02.35 | tafsen | I tried it in firefox using the mplayer-plugin |
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| 22:03.22 | Maccco | yeah i see |
| 22:03.25 | Maccco | strange |
| 22:03.26 | rapsys | seems your audio output is not correctly configured in kmplayer |
| 22:03.31 | rapsys | try put : alsa |
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| 22:03.39 | rapsys | and xv for the video output |
| 22:03.46 | rapsys | with framedropping enabled |
| 22:03.48 | Maccco | maybe it a slow connection |
| 22:04.01 | rapsys | (the server was lagging here too) |
| 22:04.14 | rapsys | and I have not a slow connexion (800ko/s down) |
| 22:04.15 | tafsen | well, I have some problem with my sound |
| 22:04.56 | rapsys | tafsen: buy a sound blaster live 5.1 (around 15€ I think today), works perfectly with hardware 4channel mixer |
| 22:05.02 | rapsys | no cpu cost |
| 22:05.07 | tafsen | when I play music from amaroK, and everything I do something that demands a litle cpu(i.e. maximizing/minimizing a window) it lags... |
| 22:05.26 | tafsen | I use a laptop |
| 22:05.46 | rapsys | :'( |
| 22:05.50 | rapsys | processor ? |
| 22:05.53 | rapsys | (ram ?) |
| 22:06.01 | Maccco | no |
| 22:06.10 | Maccco | why don't you try alsa output? |
| 22:06.18 | tafsen | 1.5 |
| 22:06.19 | tafsen | 786 |
| 22:06.30 | tafsen | alsa output? |
| 22:06.36 | rapsys | 1.5Gb |
| 22:06.38 | rapsys | yes |
| 22:06.52 | rapsys | Configure/Configure kmplayer |
| 22:06.52 | Maccco | mplayer -ao alsa mms://straumOD.nrk.no/root02/Musikk/2005-12-05/Mira_Craig_stagedive_900_129651_20051205_144148.wmv |
| 22:07.03 | rapsys | generale options>Ouput |
| 22:07.08 | tafsen | I don't have kmplayer |
| 22:07.17 | rapsys | Advanced Linux Sound architecture |
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| 22:07.52 | rapsys | I use that config : mplayer -ao alsa -vo gl2 file_or_stream_url |
| 22:07.56 | new_suse_user | can I remove my "most used applications" from the kde menu? |
| 22:08.13 | rapsys | gl2 is perfect if you have a nvidia/ati card with good opengl support |
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| 22:08.27 | Maccco | yes, but also xv should be good |
| 22:08.31 | rapsys | it's in kdeglobals if I remember well |
| 22:08.48 | rapsys | Maccco: I can't change the brightness here with xv output :'( |
| 22:09.24 | Maccco | rapsys: you can if you add -vf eq2 :-) |
| 22:09.25 | tafsen | Maccco, http://rafb.net/paste/results/ASBItC82.html |
| 22:09.39 | tafsen | output from mplayer -ao |
| 22:10.29 | Maccco | tafsen, you pasted only the last 5 lines |
| 22:10.36 | Maccco | paste the whole output |
| 22:11.30 | tafsen | http://rafb.net/paste/results/pHQ3Hu56.html |
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| 22:12.11 | rapsys | new_suse_user: ~/.kde/share/config/kickerrc |
| 22:12.51 | new_suse_user | thanks rapsys |
| 22:12.52 | new_suse_user | figured it out |
| 22:12.54 | rapsys | Maccco: no you don't understand ;) (the xv output is unable to change brightness) |
| 22:13.14 | rapsys | except if I change my xorg driver from nvidia to nv (open source one) |
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| 22:13.42 | rapsys | only opengl2 output allow me to makes mplayer change brightness and color/saturation level |
| 22:13.57 | tafsen | Maccco, got it? |
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| 22:14.58 | rapsys | tafsen: uyse a cache and make your mplayer drop frame |
| 22:15.23 | Maccco | tafsen yes. How does it looks like. Is it a choppy playback' |
| 22:15.25 | Maccco | ? |
| 22:15.49 | rapsys | tafsen: and that stream have a HUGE resolution == NEED lot of dl bandwith !!! |
| 22:16.02 | rapsys | try to put as much as pre-cache percent you can |
| 22:16.44 | Maccco | try to "mplayer -cache-min 30 url" |
| 22:17.16 | tafsen | Think we have forgot my problem now :P |
| 22:17.24 | tafsen | Im not able to play it firefox |
| 22:17.37 | Maccco | rapsys: if you enable the eq2 filter you can change brightness/contrast/hue etc during playback. Even if your hardware don't support it |
| 22:17.58 | tafsen | and my other problem: |
| 22:18.04 | rapsys | Maccco: it's already enabled (in fact all possible filter are enabled in the kmplayer config) |
| 22:18.07 | tafsen | when I play music from amaroK, and everything I do something that demands a litle cpu(i.e. maximizing/minimizing a window) it lags... |
| 22:18.15 | rapsys | that's only that driver don't support it at all |
| 22:18.33 | rapsys | tafsen: that should be realted to your distribution |
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| 22:18.57 | SimAtWork | tafsen: what video card do you have? |
| 22:19.02 | rapsys | try latest mandriva 2007.0 it has a great alsa sound integration (with dmix support fox bad audio chips) |
| 22:19.06 | SimAtWork | tafsen: sounds like you may not have the right drivers installed |
| 22:19.32 | Maccco | pastebin a "lspci" and a "lsmod" please (as root) |
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| 22:21.22 | tafsen | rapsys, Im not interested at all in changing distro :P |
| 22:21.48 | tafsen | SimAtWork, Are you talking about my firefox problem now? |
| 22:22.21 | rapsys | tafsen: that's your problem if you choose distro with bad integratio |
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| 22:22.25 | rapsys | integration ;) |
| 22:22.36 | Dr_willis | moo |
| 22:22.44 | tafsen | I use Arch Linux |
| 22:23.07 | rapsys | anyway I said you, install mplayerplugin plugin |
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| 22:23.13 | rapsys | or vlc based one |
| 22:23.21 | Renze | or mozplugger |
| 22:23.29 | rapsys | or use konqueror+kmplayer installed |
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| 22:23.48 | Maccco | tafsen, pastebin a "lspci" and a "lsmod" please (as root) |
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| 22:24.08 | rapsys | anyway firefox is not realy the best linux browser (prety slow and eat too much memory) |
| 22:24.14 | SimAtWork | tafsen: no, the lag with amarok |
| 22:24.16 | Maccco | rapsys, if mplayer is slow kmplayer will be slow too |
| 22:24.43 | tafsen | SimAtWork, what have my videocard to do with that? |
| 22:24.52 | Maccco | konqueror uses less memory than Firefox |
| 22:25.09 | tafsen | Maccco, one sec |
| 22:25.13 | rapsys | Maccco: I think he has two problem, a slow streaming server, and a (slow?) hardware laptop |
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| 22:25.23 | Maccco | he has a 800k line |
| 22:25.35 | Maccco | maybe slow memory! |
| 22:26.10 | rapsys | tafsen: it's simple, I use the nv (open source driver), everything lag (resize windows, etc), I use nvidia proprietary driver all is speed up |
| 22:26.16 | Maccco | one solution could be to compile mplayer yourself |
| 22:26.29 | tafsen | I don't have nvidia |
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| 22:26.48 | rapsys | then you have an ati |
| 22:26.53 | rapsys | use their driver |
| 22:26.58 | tafsen | no |
| 22:26.59 | tafsen | Intel |
| 22:27.00 | rapsys | (if possible) |
| 22:27.07 | rapsys | which xorg ? |
| 22:27.37 | tafsen | http://rafb.net/paste/results/oymQgd62.html |
| 22:27.43 | tafsen | lsmod and lspci as root |
| 22:27.44 | Maccco | let him pastebin! ;-) |
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| 22:28.05 | tafsen | pastebin xorg.conf as well??? |
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| 22:28.54 | rapsys | mms://sdmc.contents.edgestreams.net/horsgv/regions/siege/infos/f2/20h/HD_20h_20060926.wmv <= try this strem |
| 22:29.15 | rapsys | not too big resolution with high bandwith server |
| 22:29.32 | Maccco | rapsys, I think he doesn't have a good xv acceleration |
| 22:29.47 | Maccco | try mplayer -vo gl (url) |
| 22:29.55 | Maccco | or mplayer -vo gl2 (url) |
| 22:30.06 | rapsys | better use gl2 |
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| 22:30.41 | rapsys | gl has no support of brightness/(not sure : constrast)/color/saturation feature |
| 22:30.52 | tafsen | well |
| 22:30.58 | tafsen | I had no problem with that link |
| 22:31.18 | rapsys | so it's aproblem with your server which miss upload bandwith |
| 22:31.19 | Maccco | it could be memory/graphic acceleration problem |
| 22:31.28 | Maccco | I think it's a graphic acceleration problem |
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| 22:32.01 | tafsen | but do you have any idea on the sound lagging problem? because that's a bigger problem for me |
| 22:32.02 | rapsys | Maccco: no, it's stream server had too slow upload speed |
| 22:32.16 | rapsys | the problem rely on you alsa version |
| 22:32.37 | Maccco | I dont' think so, the url you posted is much smaller |
| 22:32.43 | Maccco | smaller=less cpu usage |
| 22:33.18 | rapsys | if you have version <= 1.0.9rc2 the dmix (soft mixing for bad card that don't have hard mixing) is bad integrated |
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| 22:33.50 | Maccco | time to go to bed |
| 22:33.50 | rapsys | Maccco: yes, but I don't see any cpu use différence here depending on the screen depth |
| 22:34.15 | rapsys | I have 1280x1024 stream and cpu use keep to 0-1% |
| 22:34.23 | Maccco | his video has an area 10 times bigger |
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| 22:34.59 | Maccco | if it doesn't accel output well all the work is done by cpu |
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| 22:35.14 | rapsys | gl2 is great for cpu here ;) |
| 22:35.16 | Maccco | rapsys, you have nvidia |
| 22:35.20 | rapsys | yes |
| 22:35.21 | Maccco | he has an old intel card |
| 22:35.32 | rapsys | fx5700 512ddr, it help a lot |
| 22:36.17 | Maccco | So you can accelerate all with your video adapter, but he can't |
| 22:36.28 | Maccco | he has an "Intel Corporation 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device" |
| 22:36.46 | rapsys | intel do opensource driver now no ? |
| 22:36.53 | rapsys | (with opengl support) |
| 22:37.03 | Maccco | i don't know :-) |
| 22:37.23 | rapsys | I don't remind what hard support has the i855 chipset |
| 22:37.37 | rapsys | anyway there is a opensource driver in GPL for that chips |
| 22:37.44 | rapsys | see on /. |
| 22:38.16 | Maccco | it's time to sleep here! |
| 22:38.41 | Maccco | Have a nice day/evening (don't know) ;-) |
| 22:39.37 | tafsen | nighty |
| 22:39.55 | Maccco | ;-) |
| 22:40.02 | rapsys | good night |
| 22:40.11 | rapsys | here it's 0h40am |
| 22:40.31 | tafsen | same here |
| 22:41.31 | rapsys | (france) |
| 22:41.38 | tafsen | (norway) |
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| 22:46.12 | rapsys | here 10°C 80% humidity, realy cold :'( |
| 22:46.24 | qupada | Renze: in soviet russia, lunch ponders you |
| 22:46.40 | Renze | rapsys: it's 8°C here |
| 22:47.01 | Renze | the soviets are gone, dude... move on, already :D |
| 22:47.21 | rapsys | and my proprietary didn't make switch o radiator '( |
| 22:47.23 | rapsys | :'( |
| 22:47.38 | Renze | qupada: how's the weather down there? |
| 22:48.58 | rapsys | cold rain from north with small cloud |
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| 22:51.03 | Smak | so the kde opengl screen savers in my opinion suck. Any good ones? |
| 22:51.18 | MinceR | xscreensaver |
| 22:51.55 | qupada | Renze: sun and blue sky. haven't been outside so it's probably freezing cold, but it looks nice |
| 22:52.00 | rapsys | there are xscreenscraver-gl |
| 22:52.17 | Smak | are they good iuo |
| 22:52.17 | qupada | Renze: http://www.physics.otago.ac.nz/eman/weather_station/current.php |
| 22:52.22 | Renze | qupada: not getting the cold southerly? it's overcast, cold, and raining here |
| 22:52.49 | Renze | yep... at least 3°C warmer than Wellington :D |
| 22:54.14 | rapsys | hum worth than I gessed 88% humidity, 100C |
| 22:54.20 | rapsys | 10°C |
| 22:54.27 | qupada | was about to say |
| 22:54.29 | rapsys | horrible cold |
| 22:54.46 | Renze | 81.3% humidity here |
| 22:54.59 | Renze | wonderful Spring weather |
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| 22:58.26 | vinboy | what is the command line to get the size of particular directory? |
| 22:58.34 | qupada | du -sh |
| 22:58.50 | vinboy | thx |
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| 23:23.35 | u45495 | Could someone tell if it's possible to disable key repeating on kdm? |
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| 23:29.25 | SimAtWork | u45495: it is |
| 23:29.33 | SimAtWork | u45495: just go to kcontrol |
| 23:29.39 | SimAtWork | peripherals |
| 23:29.40 | SimAtWork | keyboard |
| 23:29.54 | SimAtWork | oh sorry, for kdm |
| 23:29.54 | SimAtWork | hrm |
| 23:30.09 | SimAtWork | i'm sure it is possible u45495 but i'm at a loss as to how at this moment |
| 23:32.27 | tafsen | rapsys, you there? |
| 23:32.33 | u45495 | SimAtWork: ok, thanks! i'll keep googling |
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| 23:36.13 | Arnis | I have a strange issue with different apps. When I am running them under root (amarok, k3b an so on) I am using localized menus and messages. But when I am trying to run such apps under user I can see only English menus and messages. Any ideas please? I am tired of searching and reading docs ;-) |
| 23:37.41 | pinotree | did you set the language for the user? |
| 23:38.00 | Arnis | pinotree-> yes I did |
| 23:38.40 | pinotree | is the language selectable in the control center |
| 23:38.42 | pinotree | i mean |
| 23:39.11 | pinotree | in the ad-hoc module, there's the add button to add a new language to the kde languages |
| 23:39.12 | Arnis | Oh, I see. No, I can not see the language selection |
| 23:39.47 | pinotree | kcontrol -> regional & accessibility -> language and country ? |
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| 23:41.42 | Arnis | There is Enlglish only |
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| 23:42.00 | pinotree | and for root's kcontrol? |
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| 23:42.38 | Arnis | I'll try to relogin now. I chmodded some rights |
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| 23:53.41 | Arnis | There is no effect |
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| 23:56.36 | pinotree | does the root's kcontrol have the language in the language list selector (the side button)? |
| 23:56.57 | pinotree | if yes (then nothing for user), it could be some installation problem |
| 23:57.15 | pinotree | night |
| 23:59.52 | Arnis | Can't get kcontrol running under root.... Can't locate kcontrol under root |
