00:00.02 | bobesponja | bye GINA |
00:00.09 | logixoul | bobesponja: my bad, listen to Renze |
00:00.20 | Renze | bobesponja: if the files are on another partition, check .Trash-<userid> on that partition |
00:00.38 | bobesponja | Renze: drwx------ 4 pat pat 4096 2006-09-25 01:49 Trash |
00:00.44 | bobesponja | (my user name is Pat) |
00:00.47 | Renze | looks OK to me |
00:00.51 | bobesponja | and it's on the same partition |
00:00.51 | logixoul | <PROTECTED> |
00:02.08 | bobesponja | ok, when I do trash:/ it's all empty |
00:02.34 | bobesponja | but ls Trash/files has more than 200 files |
00:02.37 | Renze | hmmm... |
00:03.04 | bobesponja | and the Trash tooltip says 207 files |
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00:03.40 | bobesponja | does anyone run kubuntu? |
00:03.50 | Renze | not I |
00:03.54 | aseigo | bobesponja: if you're using a remotely recent version of kde, ~/Trash isn't where it goes |
00:04.00 | aseigo | bobesponja: it's in .local/share/Trash |
00:04.27 | bobesponja | aseigo: I know that's where I checked |
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00:05.13 | aseigo | GINA: http://linux-br.conectiva.com.br <-- mailing list there that can help you |
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00:05.35 | GINA | tank you |
00:05.38 | bobesponja | "ls .local/share/Trash/files/ |wc -l" returns 171 |
00:05.41 | aseigo | GINA: np |
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00:06.39 | aseigo | bobesponja: hum. for humour's sake, mv .local/share/Trash somewhere, e.g. ~/Trash.tmp and try to trash something again |
00:09.43 | logixoul | fyi everyone: disabling kuick_plugin seems to speed konq up noticably |
00:10.02 | bobesponja | aseigo: I can move to Trash now but the tooltip still indicate 171 files, trash:/ is still empty and I can't still empty the trash |
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00:21.05 | hacosta | is bugs.kde.org the correct place to report a k3b bug? |
00:21.17 | hacosta | it crashes when i try to open mywarezdl.cue |
00:21.46 | logixoul | yep, it is |
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00:30.07 | logixoul | gotta love the community |
00:30.08 | logixoul | http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=76082 |
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00:30.28 | logixoul | every hot spot just /has/ to turn into a political extravaganza |
00:30.44 | logixoul | "it's not quantum mechanics, implement it already" |
00:30.59 | logixoul | "power corrupts" |
00:31.27 | logixoul | "the bug service is here to let me report bugs, not suggest to implement stuff" |
00:32.19 | logixoul | "engineers are a race different from humans" |
00:32.56 | logixoul | "Coolo, you arrogant bastard!!! Someone ought to put you out of your misery." |
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00:33.37 | logixoul | "I would highly suggest forking the project" |
00:33.54 | logixoul | and my favorite, "lazy asses like coolo" |
00:33.58 | logixoul | etc, etc. |
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00:41.27 | StFS | hello.. is there anyone here who knows how kscreensaver works exactly? I'm trying to get electricsheep to work properly but I have Xinerama and what happens is that the screensaver is spread over both monitors and looks like crap... one monitor "flickers" with a blue color as it's being played |
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00:43.01 | workman161 | that isn't kscreensaver, but xscreensaver |
00:43.09 | logixoul | StFS: in any case, kscreensaver is only a configurator/launcher for xscreensaver stuff, so your problem isn't a kde one. i can't help you, tho. |
00:43.12 | workman161 | also, it is probably something with your video card |
00:43.22 | workman161 | unable to do DRI on more than one display and all |
00:43.59 | LXRocks | ahahaha |
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00:44.45 | LXRocks | a real lol here , laughout my mouth out |
00:46.31 | StFS | workman161: electricsheep is just video so no dri is needed... but you're right... there's something about running the video across both monitors with Xinerama that doesn't sit well somewhere |
00:47.52 | StFS | it seems that something along the way ignores the indications of the two screens and sets everything up as a single area... I was just hoping that somebody knew how I could change that so just one of the monitors would display the electricsheep video and the other one would then just be blank |
00:48.09 | workman161 | xinerama treats the whole setup as one screen |
00:48.17 | workman161 | there really isn't 'two' screends |
00:48.20 | workman161 | *screens |
00:48.32 | StFS | workman161: yes... there are two screens |
00:48.38 | workman161 | not according to X |
00:48.41 | StFS | workman161: and Xinerama knows about them. |
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00:49.16 | StFS | workman161: well... you can go to kde control panel and see an "ID" displayed on the screens... one gets a "1" and the other a "2" |
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00:49.53 | workman161 | A screen in X is like one big canvas |
00:50.00 | StFS | workman161: also... windows snap to all the edges so there's something providing some indications as to where the "monitor split" is |
00:50.02 | workman161 | Xinerama merges multiple monitors into one big canvas |
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00:50.16 | workman161 | thats what xinerama provides, the subscreen hints |
00:50.17 | StFS | workman161: true... but it does more than that... and it's not quite this simple |
00:50.28 | StFS | workman161: exactly.. |
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00:50.46 | StFS | workman161: but it also somehow handles different resolutions on the two screens and such |
00:51.13 | StFS | but ok... I'll put my electric sheeps on ice then :) |
00:51.29 | Renze | electric sheep? kinky |
00:51.56 | StFS | but while we're on the subject... do you (or anybody) know what the general status of a "single desktop multi head" setup on linux is with regards to DRI? |
00:52.39 | StFS | is there anything other than Xinerama that does this properly? Or is Xinerama working on getting DRI support? |
00:52.59 | workman161 | Not using xinerama and instead configuring X for two distinct screens is what I use |
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00:53.02 | workman161 | DRI works just fine |
00:53.11 | workman161 | one screen at a time of course |
00:53.24 | StFS | workman161: but then you can't move windows between monitors right? |
00:53.30 | workman161 | nope :( |
00:53.37 | StFS | yeah... that sucks :( |
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00:54.00 | workman161 | well, with GTK they have some fancypants stuff that lets you move apps between displays |
00:54.11 | StFS | Renze: it's actually quite cool... |
00:54.29 | StFS | Renze: http://electricsheep.org/ |
00:54.37 | StFS | workman161: ok |
00:54.53 | LXRocks | Renze |
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00:55.08 | workman161 | you can still start apps on different displays by changing DISPLAY to something like 0.1 for display 1, or 0.0 for display 0 |
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00:55.26 | workman161 | I use one for watching MythTV and the other for being semi-productive |
00:55.54 | StFS | workman161: yeah... I tried having it this way once but I mostly do work on my computer and this was driving me nuts |
00:56.14 | workman161 | I'm used to it |
00:56.15 | StFS | workman161: so I rather gave up DRI |
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00:57.24 | StFS | I'm just really curious to know what's being done about this (if anything)... I think this is a pretty major issue for linux on the desktop in general |
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00:58.21 | workman161 | IMHO, I believe that is a restriction caused by the graphics card itself |
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00:58.59 | StFS | workman161: oh? but you can have 3d acceleration on both monitors if you use windows |
00:59.39 | workman161 | then my understanding of graphics must be flawed |
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01:03.42 | Renze | it's more a case of the driver rather than the hardware |
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01:11.33 | Tox | is there any program to learn English in kubuntu ? |
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01:13.01 | Renze | Tox: ask in #kubuntu |
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01:13.47 | Tox | Renze then tell me dz this program exist at all ? |
01:14.02 | Renze | Tox: how should I know? english is the only language I know |
01:14.19 | Renze | Tox: plus, I don't use kubuntu :P |
01:14.30 | Tox | :) lucky me i know 4 lang lol |
01:14.44 | Tox | .. and use kubuntu :) |
01:14.47 | Renze | I know plenty of languages... but only one that is used in communication |
01:15.04 | Tox | i.e Russian ? |
01:15.08 | Renze | no |
01:15.29 | Tox | Polish ? Lithuanian ? |
01:15.33 | Renze | C/C++, Pascal, Prolog, Python, Haskell, PHP, etc |
01:15.36 | Tox | <PROTECTED> |
01:15.44 | Tox | vb ? |
01:15.55 | Renze | ew |
01:15.56 | Renze | no way |
01:15.56 | Tox | why ? |
01:15.56 | Renze | why would I want to learn virus basic? |
01:16.06 | Tox | i like it .. |
01:16.20 | Renze | it's not available for linux anyway, which is a good thing |
01:16.33 | Tox | its very easy to learn and undrstand |
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01:16.44 | Renze | easy does not equate to good |
01:16.51 | Tox | thats pitty .. |
01:17.58 | Renze | Tox: plus I haven't had windows installed on any PC since 1999 |
01:18.27 | Tox | wow! you're linux maniac lol |
01:18.35 | Renze | of course |
01:18.56 | Tox | i tried it a cpl yrs ago but fail |
01:19.27 | Tox | now i using ubuntu about a 3 mnths |
01:19.42 | Renze | linux for 8 years, gentoo for 2 years and counting |
01:19.48 | Tox | what cud i say .. it great os |
01:20.30 | Tox | gentoo is this a distr ? |
01:20.33 | Renze | yes |
01:20.49 | Tox | whats the diff betweeen gentoo and debian ? |
01:20.58 | Renze | everything is compiled from source |
01:21.27 | Tox | so theres no diff ? :) |
01:21.39 | Renze | HUGE difference |
01:21.47 | Renze | debian uses binary packages... gentoo uses source code |
01:22.05 | Tox | only sc ? interesting .. |
01:23.00 | Tox | so do u have to work much in terminal ? |
01:23.00 | Renze | have to? I do so by choice |
01:23.01 | Renze | the terminal is extremely powerful |
01:23.29 | Tox | hard but interesting .. i have no patient for it |
01:23.42 | Renze | I've been using a commandline since 1983 |
01:23.46 | qupada | debian only gives you one option for every package; the proverbial 'pizza with everything'. if you don't want an optional compile-time option in one of your applications, you're screwed |
01:25.13 | Tox | what last ms os u used last time 3.1 ? |
01:25.21 | Renze | Windows 98 |
01:25.30 | Renze | I got sick of it crashing every 30 minutes |
01:26.04 | Tox | oh this was the best product of ms :) |
01:26.32 | Tox | and Vista it wud be a monster |
01:27.17 | Tox | what conf of pc i need to use i.e vista and ut 2007 :) |
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01:27.42 | Renze | ask in ##windows — we don't give a shit |
01:27.46 | workman161 | Hi, please expend the extra effort to add those two extra letters to 'you', along with your various other mistakes |
01:28.28 | Tox | it wasnt a question just thougt loud |
01:28.38 | Renze | still doesn't belong here |
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01:32.57 | lockd | is there any way to modify the Log Out dialog? I just got suspend2 working, and want to add hibernate and hibernate-ram |
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01:41.01 | lockd | also, does anyone know why kdeinit would be running after setting kde for prelink? (and prelinking, of course) |
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01:44.14 | qupada | lockd: there is something at kde-look.org that adds hibernate and suspend to the logout dialogue |
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01:44.31 | lockd | qupada: ahh, thanks |
01:44.34 | LXRocks | windows 98 crashed every 30 minutes ? |
01:44.58 | LXRocks | renze |
01:45.08 | qupada | lockd: no idea if it's a patch that requires recompiling kdebase or whatever, but i have seen it |
01:45.13 | lockd | now about the bigger problem? how do i tell if kde's prelinked is working? |
01:45.21 | Renze | does it start faster? |
01:45.42 | lockd | qupada: i'm probably going to stop using the monolithic packages |
01:45.50 | LXRocks | renze : It crashed every minutes for me :) |
01:45.58 | qupada | prelinking only makes <10% difference anyway, it's not something you're going to notice that much |
01:46.02 | LXRocks | and w95 was worse |
01:46.11 | lockd | qupada: kdebase is only for monolithic, right? |
01:46.26 | qupada | lockd: yeah, i didn't know what distro you were using though |
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01:46.32 | lockd | qupada: gentoo |
01:46.39 | qupada | i kinda guessed that |
01:46.53 | LXRocks | but now a question arise : was it a 1 - bad designed kernel 2 - hardware problem(bad cpus) ? |
01:47.05 | lockd | qupada: how?.. what i'm trying to get working? |
01:47.29 | lockd | qupada: (hibernate's default in most other distros isn't it) |
01:47.29 | qupada | lockd: when you used the term 'monolithic' and mentioned stopping using it |
01:47.34 | qupada | lockd: in any case, http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=47593 |
01:47.54 | lockd | qupada: thanks i had already gotten there, but still |
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01:49.23 | qupada | personally if i was using that, i'd change it so both buttons were visible immediately, the shift-toggle is just stupid |
01:49.43 | lockd | qupada: also i'm searching for XSLT support for Konqueror |
01:49.47 | lockd | qupada: yeah |
01:49.56 | charzero | What graphical svn client do kde devs use? |
01:50.04 | lockd | qupada: and i think the patch is against base system |
01:51.39 | lockd | qupada: are there any KDE things like libglademm.. which can generate GUIs on the fly? |
01:52.17 | qupada | no idea sorry |
01:53.16 | lockd | qupada: know any way to have multiple sessions? |
01:53.46 | lockd | qupada: i think that was suggested once, but for KDE4 |
01:54.10 | lockd | qupada: i'll probably just write my own shutdown screen.. no reason to use ksmserver for that |
01:54.47 | qupada | multiple sessions being something that the 'switch user' menu that has existed since 3.4.0 can't do? |
01:55.32 | lockd | qupada: hmm i only thought that was for a different user |
01:55.45 | qupada | no, you can log the same user in twice |
01:56.19 | lockd | qupada: where are the sessions stored, by the way? |
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01:58.11 | Deformative | Is there a zenity substitute that uses qt? |
01:58.20 | Renze | wtf is zenity? |
01:58.22 | qupada | well each one has its own X server, so see what /var/tmp/ has to offer |
01:58.35 | Deformative | Notifys you of stuff. |
01:58.40 | Renze | Deformative: kdialog? |
01:58.49 | Deformative | I am trying to make a .desktop file, that you drag a folder on to. |
01:58.54 | Deformative | And it will upload it to a server. |
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01:58.58 | Deformative | And notify a url for you. |
01:59.07 | Deformative | notify you with a url* |
01:59.08 | Renze | Deformative: kdialog is what you want then |
01:59.51 | Deformative | Hmm. |
02:00.35 | Deformative | Before I do this, does anyone already have one made? |
02:01.18 | Renze | Deformative: there was one that uploads to imageshack on kde-apps, I think |
02:01.25 | lockd | anyone know where previous session is stored? |
02:01.34 | lockd | i have scoured ~/ |
02:01.35 | Renze | lockd: ~/.kde/share/config/session/ |
02:01.36 | Deformative | I want it to do folders too though. |
02:01.45 | Renze | Deformative: so modify it |
02:02.02 | Renze | Deformative: or is your shellscript-fu weak? :D |
02:02.23 | Deformative | Well, I am thinking, lol, gimmi a second. |
02:02.30 | Deformative | Alright. |
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02:03.11 | lockd | Renze: thanks |
02:03.18 | Renze | lockd: no problem |
02:03.27 | Renze | Deformative: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=51247 |
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02:05.07 | Deformative | http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=22449 |
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02:05.20 | Renze | there can be only Juan |
02:05.57 | Deformative | juan? |
02:06.33 | Jucato | heheh :) |
02:06.34 | Renze | Juan Carlos Torres... also known as Jucato |
02:06.38 | Jucato | moin Renze :P |
02:06.44 | Jucato | darn I overslept again... |
02:06.56 | Renze | hola Juan |
02:07.20 | Jucato | you do remember that I'm not Spanish and speak 0 Spanish, right? :D |
02:07.27 | Renze | of course |
02:07.35 | Renze | but you should be able to guess what hola means :D |
02:07.45 | Jucato | hola hoops? |
02:07.46 | Jucato | :P |
02:08.01 | Renze | now you're just being facetious :D |
02:08.08 | bline | This is an English only channel. ;P |
02:08.24 | Renze | bline: Scheiße! |
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02:09.07 | Jucato | I ain't no Brit :) |
02:09.46 | Delphinus | any idea why amarok will not read mp3 ID tags from a mounted smb share please? |
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02:09.57 | Deformative | Hmm, I wonder how hard it would be to make the menu into a .desktop file. |
02:10.41 | Renze | Deformative: the menu is already a bunch of .desktop files |
02:11.03 | Deformative | Yeah but you cannot drag and drop a folder on to them. |
02:11.05 | Deformative | I don't think. |
02:11.21 | Renze | have you tried? |
02:11.44 | Deformative | Not yet. |
02:12.07 | Renze | Deformative: hint: use applications:/ in the location bar in konqueror |
02:13.23 | Renze | hmmm... can't drag and drop onto those... oh well |
02:13.27 | Renze | pity |
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02:14.04 | Renze | Deformative: you can drag items from the menu onto kicker as launchers, then drop stuff onto those |
02:14.06 | Paleo | Hi there :) |
02:14.11 | Renze | hi where? |
02:14.23 | Paleo | there --> |
02:14.30 | Renze | not <-- there? |
02:14.45 | Paleo | nah, ppl aren't friendly that way |
02:14.55 | Renze | ah... I'm <-- there ;) |
02:15.04 | Paleo | ahah |
02:15.12 | Jucato | :O |
02:15.21 | Paleo | *** YOU'RE USING autoconf (GNU Autoconf) 2.61. |
02:15.21 | Paleo | *** KDE requires autoconf 2.53 or newer |
02:15.22 | Paleo | What's up with that ? o_O |
02:15.55 | Renze | probably a regexp problem |
02:16.00 | Jucato | Paleo: you might be missing automake |
02:16.03 | Deformative | Hmm. |
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02:16.35 | Jucato | yeah, I got that too when I installed autoconf and didn't have automake... |
02:17.18 | Paleo | well, it's installed |
02:17.31 | Paleo | ah ! Okay... "svn up admin" fixed that |
02:17.49 | Jucato | ... |
02:18.02 | Renze | ellipsis? |
02:18.14 | Renze | - ‒ — ‒ - |
02:18.42 | Paleo | ellipsis ? like in James Bond : Casino Royale ? ... :\ |
02:18.51 | ObsidianX | can i ask about kdewin32 here? |
02:18.52 | Renze | haven't seen that yet |
02:19.04 | Renze | ObsidianX: doesn't exist yet |
02:19.11 | ObsidianX | sure it does, its just not done |
02:19.24 | Renze | ObsidianX: afaik they're working on porting kdelibs to win32, but slowly |
02:19.38 | ObsidianX | i've got some questions regarding QT's moc tool |
02:19.42 | Jucato | but kdelibs on win32 does not a kdewin32 make |
02:19.42 | Renze | ObsidianX: chances are the whole of KDE won't be ported... just kdelibs and some apps |
02:19.47 | ObsidianX | it wont generate kwallet_interface.cpp/h/moc |
02:20.28 | Renze | ObsidianX: #kde4-devel perhaps? |
02:20.32 | ObsidianX | ah, sounds good |
02:20.33 | ObsidianX | thanks ;) |
02:20.42 | Renze | no problem |
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02:21.13 | Renze | ObsidianX: the other option is #qt |
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02:23.36 | Renze | z z Z Z z z |
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02:32.13 | Jucato | Renze: both noatun and juk require arts, right? |
02:32.27 | Renze | no, noatun does... juk doesn't |
02:32.31 | Jucato | aaah |
02:32.41 | Jucato | hm... haven't tried juk in a long time... |
02:32.43 | Renze | juk can use akode as a backend |
02:32.53 | Jucato | only akode? |
02:33.05 | Renze | checking |
02:33.16 | Renze | it can use arts or gstreamer too |
02:33.26 | Jucato | hm.... |
02:33.28 | Renze | I just use akode and disable the other two |
02:33.44 | Jucato | can it use xine? |
02:33.46 | Renze | no |
02:33.52 | Renze | that's for amarok |
02:34.10 | Renze | xine-lib to be precise... xine-ui isn't needed |
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02:36.32 | Renze | Jucato: http://www.carewolf.com/akode/index.html |
02:36.54 | Jucato | aaah it's not KDE... oooh.. |
02:37.30 | Jucato | which means I can install from the package manager :P |
02:37.30 | Renze | ah, you saw a 'k' and jumped to conclusions :D |
02:37.40 | Jucato | Kino and K3D |
02:38.08 | stoned | Renze, whats up man |
02:38.25 | Renze | the temperature |
02:38.28 | stoned | haven't seen you around in a while, did you get a job? |
02:38.32 | Jucato | the sky, the sun, and the clouds |
02:38.32 | stoned | yet... |
02:38.45 | Renze | not yet... I've just been quiet |
02:39.00 | stoned | lazy couch potato |
02:39.19 | Renze | I don't own a couch |
02:39.24 | stoned | oh |
02:39.34 | stoned | well... |
02:39.39 | stoned | I'm sorry. |
02:39.43 | Renze | but I do resemble a potato |
02:39.48 | qupada | chair potato! |
02:39.59 | stoned | doesn't have quite the ring to it |
02:40.02 | Renze | Wii potato! |
02:40.14 | stoned | can't remain too much of a potato with Wii |
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02:40.25 | stoned | I like that console, its good excercise for kids |
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02:40.36 | stoned | I probably didn't spell excersice right |
02:40.39 | stoned | but who cares |
02:40.40 | Renze | and good exercise for potatoes |
02:40.47 | stoned | I am highly uneducated |
02:40.48 | Jucato | what's that apt factoid again for split ebuilds? |
02:40.56 | Renze | ~split-ebuilds |
02:41.04 | apt | If you didn't build the whole of a KDE module, we can't offer support. See http://lists.kde.org/?l=kde-devel&m=110806759516927&w=2 for the reason. Try #gentoo if you don't want to install the full KDE module. |
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02:41.14 | stoned | lol |
02:41.17 | stoned | mankind_tweezer |
02:41.17 | Jucato | ok thanks :) |
02:41.27 | stoned | where do people come up with such nicknames man hahahaha |
02:41.30 | Jucato | I was thinking of not downloading whole modules.... |
02:41.42 | mankind_tweezer | it's an anagram for ny name :) |
02:41.45 | Renze | stoned: I must admit my arms have gotten bigger since playing Wii Sports Baseball |
02:42.14 | stoned | Renze, keep the size of your patoot to yourself kindly sir kthx u much |
02:42.18 | stoned | :D |
02:42.39 | Renze | stoned: you don't want to hear about me with my hand wrapped around my wiimote? ;) |
02:42.46 | stoned | dude |
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02:42.53 | stoned | word. no. |
02:42.55 | stoned | lol |
02:43.42 | Renze | Nintendo ‒ only one game company could have come up with such a phallic controller :D |
02:45.06 | stoned | lol |
02:45.10 | stoned | I like nintendo |
02:45.12 | stoned | always ahve |
02:45.14 | Renze | so do I |
02:45.20 | Renze | they make very playable games |
02:45.20 | stoned | never cared much for sega or sony or ms |
02:45.29 | stoned | well in the days of true console wars |
02:45.32 | Renze | playability is what it's all about |
02:45.35 | stoned | nintendo was always the winner |
02:46.07 | stoned | I've got every single snes rom ever made |
02:46.07 | stoned | game |
02:46.07 | stoned | sorry |
02:46.07 | stoned | game |
02:46.07 | stoned | :D |
02:46.07 | stoned | *ahem* |
02:46.17 | Renze | yeah, right ;) |
02:46.33 | stoned | and NES stuff |
02:46.40 | stoned | I love mario rpg |
02:46.59 | stoned | my favorite game of all times and immensely enjoyable over again |
02:47.09 | stoned | its like pokemon, without the faggotry |
02:47.36 | Jucato | pokemon! |
02:47.48 | Renze | Zelda is what got me hooked |
02:48.08 | stoned | oh fuck zelda |
02:48.31 | stoned | first time I EVER played a video game was on atari when I was like 7 |
02:48.46 | stoned | Then I got a game gear sega my mom sent me from usa to pakistan |
02:48.48 | Renze | Fountain (black and white blocks) |
02:48.54 | stoned | I enjoyed it for a few weeks until I broke it |
02:49.10 | stoned | then my next video game system was an SNES in usa |
02:49.13 | Deformative | Hmm, how do you make a .desktop file so that it will do something when you drag a file on it? |
02:49.15 | stoned | I was 112 years old |
02:49.22 | stoned | I was like hell yeah, mario was my first game |
02:49.27 | stoned | super mario world, with yoshi and all |
02:49.34 | stoned | I was hooked man, never really cared for zelda |
02:49.55 | Renze | I prefer quests and stuff |
02:50.21 | stoned | well mario has quests |
02:50.32 | stoned | hes on a constant quest to rescue the princess |
02:50.39 | stoned | who apparantly never gives it up either |
02:50.49 | stoned | Ijust don't understand why mario gives a shit anymore |
02:50.56 | Renze | just like Zelda... Link never gets to dip his wick |
02:51.00 | stoned | and wtf is louigi doing in the first place man, hes NEVER gonna score |
02:51.33 | stoned | I want to see toadstool get double boned by the mario bros. |
02:51.39 | Renze | and then there's Samus |
02:51.44 | stoned | I can die a satisfied man |
02:52.03 | Renze | stoned: that image probably exists somewhere |
02:52.11 | stoned | no |
02:52.14 | stoned | in a video game |
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02:52.16 | stoned | :) |
02:52.24 | stoned | course I seen the hentai crap |
02:52.43 | Renze | stoned: don't hold your breath ;) |
02:52.59 | stoned | hey Renze |
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02:53.13 | Renze | yes? |
02:53.17 | stoned | how are you? |
02:53.20 | stoned | its been a while |
02:53.27 | stoned | you got a job yet? |
02:53.37 | Renze | that question has already been answered |
02:53.41 | stoned | huh |
02:54.00 | stoned | oh |
02:54.08 | stoned | ok |
02:54.15 | stoned | I forgot |
02:54.25 | Renze | too much pot? ;) |
02:54.31 | stoned | not enough it seems |
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02:54.37 | stoned | haven't been high in a while |
02:54.45 | Renze | I haven't been high |
02:55.38 | stoned | its over rated |
02:55.45 | stoned | I only do it because I have nothing else to do |
02:55.46 | Renze | I know, I've observed ;) |
02:56.18 | stoned | you know whats really over rated |
02:56.20 | stoned | IP |
02:56.27 | stoned | Internet porn |
02:56.34 | stoned | its so heavily overrated |
02:56.43 | stoned | and its always that crap teen shit |
02:56.50 | stoned | oh wooo hot teens blah blah |
02:56.56 | stoned | I don't want a hot teen |
02:56.56 | Renze | they have a target market |
02:56.59 | stoned | I want |
02:57.10 | Renze | milf? |
02:57.14 | stoned | like gimme like a tired old 30 year old divorcee whore porn |
02:57.18 | stoned | I dunno |
02:57.47 | stoned | I mean I know she'll proabbly say something stupid right int he middle of it |
02:58.01 | stoned | at no point during the sexual act do I wanna hear anyone go "ewww" |
02:58.08 | stoned | thats just me though |
02:58.22 | Renze | how about yawning? |
02:58.31 | stoned | when will it go back to to square 1 |
02:58.40 | stoned | remeber when you were 12 |
02:59.00 | Renze | barely |
02:59.03 | stoned | all you needed was a pair of flap jack titties on national geographic |
02:59.06 | Renze | <--- old fart |
02:59.08 | stoned | give you boner for a month |
02:59.19 | stoned | now you need gaping anus porn just to break morning piss wood |
02:59.20 | stoned | its horrible |
02:59.22 | stoned | : |
02:59.23 | stoned | lol |
02:59.27 | stoned | I'm gonna shut up |
02:59.32 | Renze | good idea |
02:59.57 | stoned | but I mean |
02:59.59 | stoned | I do have a point |
03:00.05 | stoned | porn is overrated and way too advertised |
03:01.15 | stoned | it will more than likely be the demise of our society's youth |
03:01.23 | stoned | I guarantee someting along those lines |
03:01.54 | Renze | that's already happened |
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03:03.22 | canllaith | argh |
03:03.26 | canllaith | mine eyes! |
03:03.48 | qupada | canllaith: just woke up and it's actually sunny outside for a change? |
03:03.53 | qupada | or Renze and stoned's conversation? |
03:04.03 | Renze | hey, I barely participated! |
03:04.05 | canllaith | The conversation =) |
03:04.41 | stoned | ahh |
03:04.43 | stoned | I'm sorry |
03:04.49 | stoned | I was possessed |
03:05.03 | stoned | I shouldn't take responsibility for that conversation since it wasn't me really, but I will. |
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03:36.36 | Jucato | :O |
03:36.56 | troy | I'm looking for topics for The Road to KDE 4 article series... any suggestions for KDE 4 features you'd like to see in action? |
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03:38.52 | bluelightning_ | troy: have you written one on solid? |
03:39.42 | troy | bluelightning: nope... in fact, that's totally absent from my topics list *adds it* |
03:40.00 | Jucato | heh :) |
03:40.10 | troy | that's why I asked :) |
03:40.21 | Jucato | hm... people are surelygoing to be interested in the desktop effects... like kwin 4 |
03:40.25 | bluelightning | solid & phonon are two of the new things that interest me most in kde 4 |
03:41.08 | bluelightning | actually the solid article could talk about dbus integration as well if you're short of material... |
03:41.20 | troy | Jucato: I have an article proposed for kwin_composite and kwin 4... probably three weeks away... (I'm already done writing the next two weeks' articles... just delaying publishing) |
03:41.42 | Jucato | troy: that's amazing! :) |
03:42.10 | troy | bluelightning: the solid article would mostly be about how the solid backend will affect the desktop experience - so I'd have to show some of the by-products and improvements that result from it being there... |
03:42.22 | Jucato | oh! and oxygen! specially once they finish the windeco and widget styles.... |
03:42.36 | bluelightning | don't forget akonadi either :) |
03:43.17 | troy | akonadi is the new kdepim stuff? I've already got that one penned |
03:43.26 | Jucato | troy: if your article could shed some light on some of the "mysterious" projects, like Decibel, Plasma, etc... |
03:43.51 | bluelightning | troy: that's the one |
03:44.01 | troy | Jucato: plasma is not ready for screenies :) I haven't looked into the state of decibel |
03:44.15 | Jucato | ah... maybe some other month then :) |
03:44.26 | Jucato | you're fully booked as it is :P |
03:44.53 | troy | yeah, I've penned that one in for Feb 12th, if it's screenie worthy yet... if not, I'll just keep pushing it back for a while... |
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03:45.45 | troy | the thing is with plasma, unlike the other KDE technologies, people will be less accepting of the 'devel' screenies if it's ugly or unusable - they'll start complaining about why we bother to reinvent kicker and such -- so it better be good,.... like iPhone good :) |
03:46.11 | Renze | apple are already getting sued over that name |
03:46.12 | Jucato | heh :) |
03:46.37 | troy | Renze: yeah - Apple will just buy the name, and that whole business branch if they need to in order to get the name... |
03:46.52 | Jucato | Plasma right now is really very mysterious... people don't know what it *really* is... |
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03:47.07 | Jucato | anyway... time for lunch :) |
03:48.11 | troy | it's just kdesktop and kicker and superkaramba-like widgets... |
03:48.21 | troy | but programmed from scratch to be better :) |
03:48.39 | troy | the fact that it's a complete rewrite is why it's so far behind other stuff |
03:48.52 | Jucato | yeah, but the descriptions on their website mentions something about plasma being the replacement for kdesktop and kicker... |
03:49.17 | Jucato | one question that comes to peoples mind is whether this would mean that if plasma/kicker crashed, the whole desktop goes down |
03:50.15 | Jucato | and since there has been almost no "news" about plasma except for KRunner a few weeks ago, Plasma has become all the more mysterious :) |
03:50.23 | troy | Jucato: probably, however that's the reason the run dialog got yanked out of kdesktop and put into it's own app - so it'll be there in the event of plasma going boom |
03:50.53 | Jucato | hm... |
03:51.05 | Jucato | anyway... I'm looking forward to your articles :) |
03:51.10 | troy | heh - you guys are looking forward to this thing like I awaited the Start Menu of Win 95 :P |
03:51.37 | Jucato | oh, and please do clarify that kickoff is not the KDE 4 "start" menu... |
03:51.57 | Renze | yes... please do... I don't think much of kickoff |
03:52.04 | troy | that article was bullshit by a guy that wanted to sell ads |
03:52.09 | Jucato | yeah |
03:52.13 | Jucato | annoying ain't it? |
03:52.14 | troy | I was pissed when slashdot and osnews ran it |
03:52.27 | troy | not a single link to kde projects... he ripped off my screenshots... grrst |
03:52.38 | troy | and factual inaccuracies to top it all off |
03:53.03 | Jucato | specially the parts about Qt 4 and KDE 4 (on Windows...) |
03:53.12 | troy | no, that will actually happen |
03:53.34 | troy | the next article I have it showing KDE 4 running on the Mac.. it's pretty slick |
03:53.34 | Jucato | I meant that he's implying it's only with Qt 4 that Qt had a GPL license |
03:53.46 | troy | on windows, that is true |
03:53.59 | Jucato | yes, but he didn't specify that |
03:54.24 | canllaith | troy: Get used to it. Happens to me all the time :) |
03:54.24 | troy | but he also said plasma would run OS X dashboard widgets... hah! |
03:54.27 | Jucato | also, there's a difference between "can run"/"can be ported" to "will officially be ported", imho |
03:54.28 | canllaith | Think of it as a compliment. |
03:54.59 | troy | canllaith: hey, yeah - I know - that doesn't bother me as much as the factual inaccuracies that are impossible to correct |
03:55.40 | Jucato | ok... I really need to get some lunch... I can feel my gastric juices devouring my stomach's walls... |
03:56.49 | troy | I'm happy when people link to the article, sad when they rip it off to sell ads... |
03:59.28 | Renze | troy: send me some snow |
03:59.53 | troy | Renze: you can have it here: http://weatheroffice.ec.gc.ca/city/pages/mb-38_metric_e.html |
04:00.43 | Renze | troy: does this look better? http://tvnz.co.nz/cda/tvnz/weather_area_skin/WELLINGTON?area=WELLINGTON |
04:01.10 | troy | yes - very much so :) |
04:02.03 | Renze | flooding is bad, mmmkay? |
04:02.28 | troy | it's gotta melt gradually - near zero |
04:02.54 | troy | anyway, gotta go shower and sleep, so I'm awake for fourier analysis tomorrow morning :P |
04:02.55 | Renze | make thousands of snowmen |
04:02.59 | troy | cheers |
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04:06.18 | canllaith | Renze: been out in the sunshine today? |
04:06.32 | canllaith | in wellington, it seems unnatural. |
04:06.32 | Renze | nope... not a fan of the UV rays |
04:06.46 | Renze | I got sunburnt trying to find a Wii in December |
04:06.51 | canllaith | I don't blame you. I'm way too pale to be wandering around in the sun. I only went to get some gelato :( |
04:07.43 | Renze | just been indoors playing Wii Sports and working up a sweat |
04:07.48 | canllaith | :) |
04:08.17 | canllaith | I'm sort of supposed to be at work, but there really isn't anything to do. |
04:08.25 | stdin | Hi, I'm running Konversation from SVN on Kubuntu 7.04, in the changelog it says "The automatic remember line will now also be inserted when the window has lost focus.", but it isn't happening, any ideas? |
04:08.53 | canllaith | Does this require an option to be enabled first? Sho_ can certainly tell you |
04:09.35 | stdin | i didn't see anything in ./configure --help about it |
04:09.55 | canllaith | I meant an option in the configuration dialogue for the application |
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04:10.33 | stdin | ahh, I've looked there too. can't see it |
04:11.08 | canllaith | I'm afraid I don't have svn konversation so I can't look. I'd suggest popping back in sometime Sho_ is around, he'll know. |
04:11.42 | stdin | shame, I really want that feature :P |
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04:12.22 | stdin | do you think I should ask in #kde-devel , or is it a waste of time? |
04:12.57 | canllaith | He's probably the only one who can answer it, so you may as well wait for him =) |
04:13.02 | stdin | ahh ok, will do |
04:13.07 | stdin | thanks :) |
04:14.08 | Renze | it's yours now... I'll make a new one ;) |
04:14.31 | stdin | heh |
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04:21.06 | stoned | hey |
04:21.09 | stoned | you gotta see this |
04:21.24 | stoned | http://www.tessource.net/files/image.php?id=2313 |
04:21.54 | Renze | stoned: um, why? |
04:22.01 | stoned | its funny |
04:22.08 | Renze | no, it's pointless |
04:22.17 | stoned | how? |
04:22.19 | Renze | it's probably only funny when you're stoned |
04:22.26 | Dr_willis | Like a Broken Pencil. |
04:22.26 | stoned | did you even see it? |
04:22.29 | Dr_willis | :) |
04:22.36 | Renze | a badly rendered image of chuck norris? |
04:22.40 | stoned | no |
04:22.49 | Renze | that's what that link points to |
04:22.52 | stoned | its a character you can download and play in Oblivion |
04:23.03 | stoned | and chuck norris is a joke |
04:23.11 | stoned | so umm.. its pretty funny |
04:23.16 | Renze | and that's funny why? |
04:23.18 | Dr_willis | Oblivion is a joke. :) |
04:24.14 | Dr_willis | amazing graphics in a game.. and EVERY NPC or customized character looks like they were beat with a ugly stick... twice... |
04:24.20 | stoned | dude, I'm not gonna sit here and tell you why its funny. If you don't find it funny then you don't find it funny. What the fsck do you want me to say? |
04:24.26 | Dr_willis | but boy the flowers/grass looks pirty. |
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04:35.30 | Jucato | stdin: you can ask in #konversation and I think that's the proper place than #kde-devel |
04:37.29 | stdin | ook, didn't know about that channel, then again I didn't search for it, thanks Jucato |
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05:20.29 | oneforall | hey with kword etc how would you write 4+(+4-2) with the power of 3 here |
05:22.01 | Renze | 4+(+4-2)³ ? |
05:22.46 | Jucato | superscript |
05:23.07 | Dr_willis | (+4-2) ? |
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05:23.32 | Jucato | =12? |
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05:26.10 | Dr_willis | ++good ++ungood |
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05:29.14 | oneforall | yeah like that 3 there |
05:30.19 | Renze | oneforall: I just type compose ^ 3 |
05:30.32 | Renze | or use the formula editor :D |
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05:30.50 | oneforall | ^3 |
05:30.58 | Renze | compose ^ 3 |
05:31.01 | oneforall | need it in kword |
05:31.03 | Renze | compose is a key |
05:31.11 | oneforall | whats key :D |
05:31.15 | oneforall | what* |
05:31.16 | Renze | kword can embed stuff from kformula |
05:31.20 | Renze | compose |
05:31.54 | Renze | it's for typing special characters... like compose Y = makes ¥ |
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05:33.02 | oneforall | whats key is compose? |
05:33.17 | Renze | oneforall: whatever key you set in kcontrol |
05:33.39 | stdin | oneforall: usually AltGr |
05:33.45 | Renze | kcontrol -> regional & accessibility -> keyboard layout, xkb options page |
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05:34.09 | stdin | ħełłø :) |
05:34.49 | Renze | scheiße! |
05:35.28 | Renze | déjà vu |
05:36.33 | Renze | façade |
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05:38.01 | Renze | Nestlé — damnit, now I'm craving chocolate |
05:38.26 | oneforall | ok if I go into this kformula and make ()3 but the rigght 3 I do what then to put that to a key ? |
05:38.36 | Renze | um, what? |
05:38.56 | oneforall | kword can embed stuff from kformula |
05:38.57 | canllaith | argh, I don't think this font has all those glyphs :) |
05:39.33 | stdin | Jucato: you're on k/ubuntu right? |
05:39.44 | oneforall | so if i have the brakets with power of 3 5 etc how do I embed that so I can just hit a key and it adds it |
05:39.48 | Jucato | stdin: hybrid |
05:40.08 | Renze | oneforall: sorry, you're not making any sense to me... maybe it's just too hot here ;) |
05:40.15 | stdin | Jucato: I think you cat set the compose key with "sudo dpkg-reconfigure console-setup " |
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05:40.41 | Jucato | stdin: I was able to do it last night... suddenly after a restart I can't :) |
05:40.52 | oneforall | well you said you can embed stuff using that kformula |
05:41.13 | stdin | Jucato: sometimes I have to do it at the console every time I login |
05:41.27 | oneforall | I opened that up and used that x(3 at the top right of it) |
05:41.28 | Renze | oneforall: yes, you can embed kformula stuff into a kword document just like you can embed a kspread spreadsheet... but I have no idea what you're talking about pressing keys and stuff |
05:41.37 | oneforall | so how do I embed that to kword |
05:41.51 | Renze | you do that from *in* kword |
05:42.15 | oneforall | Renze me and office apps are not a match:D |
05:42.19 | Renze | oneforall: Insert -> Formula |
05:42.25 | oneforall | clueless here |
05:43.50 | Renze | oneforall: your problem lies in thinking that it is difficult, and therefore only looking for the difficult solution and overlooking the simple one ;) |
05:43.58 | oneforall | ah ok that turns the kword page into kformula |
05:44.31 | oneforall | the top menu of kformula is on the bottom of kword I see . kewl thanks |
05:44.44 | Renze | no problem |
05:45.01 | Renze | click outside the frame to go back to kword mode when you're done |
05:45.24 | Renze | the kformula frame, that is... where the formula is |
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05:45.39 | oneforall | how do you make a divide sign ? |
05:45.48 | Renze | ÷ ? |
05:46.16 | Renze | compose - : |
05:46.23 | Renze | :D |
05:47.01 | oneforall | thats what it looks liek to me and not the proper text book ones lol |
05:47.04 | oneforall | -: |
05:47.11 | Renze | you forgot the compose key |
05:47.32 | oneforall | yeah I still can't get how to do thios compose key |
05:48.00 | Renze | ×_× |
05:50.22 | Renze | do you mean the ./¯¯ thing? |
05:50.39 | oneforall | check key Compose key postion and thats it ? |
05:51.05 | Renze | and choose which key you want to be compose... I use caps lock, since that key is pretty much useless to me |
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05:51.59 | SAS_Spidey01 | Any one know of any laws aganst recording Radio for personal usage ? lol |
05:52.14 | Renze | SAS_Spidey01: I think that varies from country to country |
05:52.20 | SAS_Spidey01 | bah |
05:52.24 | Renze | I believe it is still illegal in NZ |
05:52.51 | Renze | but then I haven't listened to the radio in years... |
05:53.15 | Renze | if I want to be assaulted by advertising, I'll publish my email address on insecure websites :D |
05:53.26 | SAS_Spidey01 | hehehe, good point |
05:53.47 | oneforall | hmm so when I check that then I click on the key and then apply ? |
05:53.54 | Renze | oneforall: yes |
05:56.48 | Jucato | is basket in KDE SVN? |
05:57.16 | oneforall | HM i TRY PRESSING CAP LOCK THEN TYPE -: AND IT STILL JUST LOOKS LIKE THAT -: |
05:57.26 | oneforall | err |
05:57.29 | Renze | you chose caps lock as your key? |
05:57.44 | oneforall | yeah since I never use it :D |
05:57.49 | Renze | no need to hold it down... just tap it like a normal key |
05:58.16 | oneforall | yup and it lightsup like nomal |
05:58.20 | Renze | weird |
05:58.24 | Renze | works like a charm here |
05:58.33 | oneforall | so that means its not working I bet |
05:58.40 | Renze | yup |
05:58.59 | oneforall | it shouldn't have the cap lock light turn on any more |
05:59.09 | Renze | yeah, that light should stay off |
06:00.26 | oneforall | hey wait there is 2 places for this Key Compose key position at the top of Xkb Option then farther down its there with 3 option too |
06:01.25 | oneforall | when I pick that top one the command line doesn't let me enter nothing |
06:01.41 | Renze | use the lower one... the top one is a glitch |
06:02.31 | oneforall | hm that one is for right ctrl etc |
06:02.41 | oneforall | 4 options |
06:02.46 | Renze | it doesn't offer caps lock as an option? |
06:02.54 | Renze | guess your keyboard model doesn't allow it |
06:03.02 | oneforall | right control menu right alt and |
06:03.09 | oneforall | nope |
06:03.28 | oneforall | win key thuo |
06:03.41 | Renze | choose one |
06:03.42 | oneforall | win key work with anything else default? |
06:03.59 | Renze | it's a modifier by default... and the other one still will be |
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06:04.45 | oneforall | ah yea its using the right key kewl that work thanks |
06:04.52 | Renze | no problem |
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06:12.36 | SAS_Spidey01 | When ever I try to use the Winkey for a modifer, my system just opens the K-Menu +S |
06:13.04 | Renze | SAS_Spidey01: your system is messed up, dude |
06:14.04 | SAS_Spidey01 | yeah, what ever they do in control center aside, theres a script in ~/.kde/env that runs xmodmap -e 'keycode 115=Menu' whether it should or not |
06:14.35 | Renze | SAS_Spidey01: ah, so it's your fault then :D |
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06:15.31 | SAS_Spidey01 | No, all I put in there was a script to run xmodmap ~/.diecapslockdie :-) |
06:15.55 | Renze | you mean your distro puts stuff in your home dir without your permission?!? |
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06:17.54 | SAS_Spidey01 | They just set the left winkey to 'Menu' so the 'Menu' shortcut works |
06:18.11 | Renze | silliness |
06:18.20 | Renze | I prefer my win keys as modifiers |
06:18.25 | SAS_Spidey01 | yea, they didn't even do it for the right win-key |
06:18.30 | Renze | I use Win+Menu for the kmenu |
06:19.18 | SAS_Spidey01 | I used to use cntl+esc for the start menu, until they implemented this I used to just click the K-Menu applet hehe |
06:19.43 | SAS_Spidey01 | its helpful as long as I don't use my alt key for a 'meta' key |
06:19.55 | niko_ | I would like to develop on kdelibs (stable). Currenlty i have Debian (unstable) binary packages installed. How do I easiest build and run kdelibs to test my changes? |
06:23.14 | niko_ | i guess i should better ask in kde-devel... |
06:24.57 | SAS_Spidey01 | I'm off, work in the morning |
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06:35.01 | LiquidNerd__ | dinner? |
06:35.08 | qupada | in a parallel universe, renze doesn't ponder dinner... |
06:35.08 | LiquidNerd__ | where do you live? |
06:35.32 | LiquidNerd__ | dinner ponders renze... |
06:35.51 | qupada | no, that's the "in soviet russia" joke, and i've used that one already, was trying not to repeat it |
06:37.14 | qupada | for the record, Renze and I live in New Zealand, where it's 7:35pm |
06:43.20 | LiquidNerd__ | ahhh |
06:43.24 | LiquidNerd__ | that explains a lot |
06:43.36 | LiquidNerd__ | Up here in Canada it's 1:44 AM |
06:43.52 | LiquidNerd__ | eh |
06:44.32 | qupada | so you're in eastern time |
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06:45.14 | LiquidNerd__ | yup |
06:47.28 | Renze | in soviet russia, soviet russia joke tells you! |
06:48.38 | qupada | yeah, no doubt. high humidity and no wind |
06:48.58 | Renze | all the doors and windows open in the flat... fan on... |
06:49.53 | qupada | heh, i'm glad i'm not where my sister is in canada though. it's -18C and dropping, Mountain time so 11:50pm at the moment |
06:50.39 | Renze | that's kinda cold, eh? like, it might freeze your hoser off, eh? |
06:51.38 | Renze | man it's hard doing a mock canadian accent online ;) |
06:51.40 | qupada | cold enough to freeze the nuts off a brass monkey |
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07:04.10 | LiquidNerd__ | and I would know! my brss monkey's nuts just froze off! |
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07:23.07 | Renze | good evening, Mr. Lund (mock Bond villain voice) |
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07:36.14 | sredna | Hi Renze :) |
07:36.37 | sredna | & thiago |
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07:49.26 | DefiantRican2875 | Hello all. can some someone please help me enable 3d effects? |
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08:23.07 | Joseph_K | Can someone answer an extremely noob question about Kdevelop for me, please? |
08:23.44 | annma | just ask |
08:23.46 | Joseph_K | I simply can't figure out where to put extra libraries that I want my C application linked with (ie: GSL). |
08:23.56 | Joseph_K | Ie: Where to configure the project. |
08:24.00 | annma | using automake? |
08:24.02 | Joseph_K | yeah |
08:24.28 | annma | so add the libs via automake manager |
08:24.33 | Joseph_K | oh... |
08:25.20 | Joseph_K | Thank you so much, annma. :) |
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08:26.14 | annma | http://www.kdevelop.org/mediawiki/index.php/FAQ#How_to_link_against_a_.so_library.3F |
08:26.24 | annma | Joseph_K: ^^ |
08:26.29 | Joseph_K | Thanks. |
08:26.34 | annma | and all the FAQ might help |
08:26.44 | annma | you're welcome |
08:28.55 | Joseph_K | Hurrah, it linked! |
08:29.21 | annma | :) |
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08:29.29 | Joseph_K | Took me a moment to add the extra -lcblas, -lblas... |
08:29.48 | Joseph_K | Now let's see if it crashes. :) |
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08:42.43 | canllaith | halt |
08:42.44 | canllaith | oops |
08:43.10 | Jucato | heh:) |
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08:45.59 | Jucato | omg! annma_ clones! :) |
08:46.12 | annma_ | ISP |
08:46.19 | Jucato | oh... |
08:46.24 | Jucato | kill it? |
08:46.43 | annma_ | i always forget how |
08:47.04 | Jucato | <PROTECTED> |
08:47.24 | DefiantRican2875 | Does anyone here have experience with 3ddesktop |
08:48.01 | Jucato | DefiantRican2875: what about it? I'm presuming you're not talking about beryl/compiz right? |
08:48.23 | DefiantRican2875 | jucato i am trying to install 3ddesktop and I keep getting an error |
08:48.44 | Jucato | DefiantRican2875: installation error? or runtime error? |
08:48.51 | annma | thanks Jucato |
08:48.54 | DefiantRican2875 | installation error jucato |
08:49.09 | Jucato | annma: no problem. you helped me more than I can every repay :) |
08:49.20 | Jucato | DefiantRican2875: what's the error? it might be distro specific, btw |
08:49.44 | DefiantRican2875 | jucato: this is the error: |
08:49.45 | DefiantRican2875 | checking for XF86VidModeSetViewPort in -lXxf86vm... no |
08:49.45 | DefiantRican2875 | configure: error: libXxf86vm is needed to compile 3ddesktop |
08:50.07 | annma | DefiantRican2875: so ask your distro where to find libXxf86vm |
08:50.18 | annma | this message is pretty clear |
08:50.20 | DefiantRican2875 | it is there that is the thing |
08:50.33 | annma | why do you compile? |
08:50.43 | annma | and what distro are you on? |
08:50.58 | DefiantRican2875 | i am on FC6 and I was just following the instructions |
08:51.12 | annma | what instructions? |
08:51.17 | annma | can you paste the link? |
08:51.33 | DefiantRican2875 | it is from the read me file |
08:51.45 | DefiantRican2875 | all it says is ./configure then make then make install |
08:51.46 | Jucato | FC doesn't have a binary package for 3ddesktop? |
08:51.55 | DefiantRican2875 | No, |
08:52.01 | Jucato | (strange...) |
08:52.05 | annma | what app do you compile? |
08:52.07 | DefiantRican2875 | unless I am missing it somewhere |
08:52.13 | annma | beryl? compiz? |
08:52.16 | Jucato | annma: 3ddesktop |
08:52.21 | annma | you are probably missing it |
08:52.32 | Jucato | http://desk3d.sourceforge.net/ |
08:52.32 | DefiantRican2875 | I have been trying for 3 weeks |
08:52.33 | annma | ask in #fedora |
08:52.40 | DefiantRican2875 | I am and they do not know either |
08:52.43 | Jucato | a very *old* but pretty app... |
08:52.56 | annma | DefiantRican2875: ./configure --help |
08:53.02 | DefiantRican2875 | if there is one better for KDE that you know of Please tell me |
08:53.09 | Jucato | also ask them what package installs the headers for libXxf86vm |
08:53.12 | annma | doesn't it has a prefix to find the lib? |
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08:53.30 | Jucato | it's not a KDE app nor is the missing package a KDE lib |
08:53.52 | DefiantRican2875 | Oh I know, I meant if you know of a better 3d program that works great |
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08:54.50 | Jucato | KDE (nor GNOME) itself doesn't have a 3D Desktop program. all of those are done by other projects like Compiz or Beryl |
08:55.05 | Jucato | (that will probably change in KDE 4, though) |
08:55.16 | DefiantRican2875 | so Compiz is a 3d program? |
08:55.24 | DefiantRican2875 | this is what I am trying to do: http://linuxreviews.org/features/3ddesktop/ |
08:55.51 | Jucato | Compiz and Beryl are compositing Window Managers (lik KWin of KDE and Metacity of GNOME) |
08:56.00 | Jucato | oh that is defnitely Compiz or Beryl |
08:56.05 | Jucato | not the 3ddesktop app |
08:56.15 | Jucato | oh wait |
08:56.22 | Jucato | lol it's 3ddesktop :) |
08:56.39 | Jucato | (why FC doesn't have this packaged... beats me...) |
08:56.49 | DefiantRican2875 | what about this Compiz |
08:56.53 | DefiantRican2875 | will that do the same thing/ |
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08:57.16 | annma | beryl is better and will enable 3D |
08:57.30 | Jucato | beryl will do more... and is (a bit) more difficulty :) |
08:57.30 | annma | I saw a demo of it recently and it was amazing |
08:57.47 | annma | however my X is not well configured |
08:57.54 | Jucato | right now, it's a hit or miss kind of thing... some are successful in setting it up, some are not |
08:58.01 | DefiantRican2875 | can you guys help me install one of those things? |
08:58.12 | annma | so I have to fix it before enabling it but my distro has it ready with compiz |
08:58.17 | Jucato | unfortunately, you'd have to go to #beryl or #compiz (if there's one) |
08:58.21 | annma | DefiantRican2875: no, it's a distro thing |
08:58.24 | DefiantRican2875 | oh |
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08:58.26 | annma | DefiantRican2875: not a KDE one |
08:58.37 | annma | mandriva has it out of the box |
08:58.38 | Jucato | because neither of them are officially part of KDE nor are KDE apps/projects... |
08:58.50 | Jucato | SUSE has Compize ootb, iirc |
08:58.52 | DefiantRican2875 | ok, Gotcha. Thanks for your help |
08:59.07 | Jucato | wb Renze |
09:00.04 | Renze | and now I'm craving ice cream, damnit |
09:00.11 | Jucato | hm.. annma, is it ok to try to build something like kdenetwork or kdemultimedia while koffice is still building? |
09:00.18 | annma | yes |
09:00.26 | Jucato | oooh thanks :) |
09:00.27 | Renze | it'll just be very very slow :D |
09:00.30 | Jucato | maximizing my time |
09:00.42 | annma | as long as kdelibs is installed and as long as you don't depend to an unbuilt module |
09:00.52 | annma | Renze: depends of the processor |
09:01.01 | annma | if you have a Core Duo you might be OK |
09:01.03 | Renze | annma: Jucato's processor :D |
09:01.10 | Jucato | ok fine! |
09:01.16 | Jucato | I only have 1.5Ghz... :P |
09:01.20 | annma | Jucato has time |
09:01.22 | Renze | so do I |
09:01.31 | Renze | Athlon XP 1800+ |
09:01.34 | Jucato | yeah I have time... I'll be afk for a bout 30 minutes or so... |
09:01.35 | Renze | 1.5GHz |
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09:09.36 | canllaith | Excellent, I didn't forget to plug in anything important swapping powersupplies. |
09:10.40 | jordo23 | konqueror handles mozilla plugins right? |
09:10.41 | Jucato | :O |
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09:10.56 | Jucato | jordo23: plugins yes. |
09:11.02 | Renze | jordo23: netscape plugins, yes |
09:11.04 | Jucato | (they're actually netscape plugins, but yeah...) |
09:11.40 | canllaith | It made no sense the other way around. |
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09:12.16 | canllaith | Given the 'server' is a celeron who hosts about 2 blogs and pop3. |
09:12.17 | jordo23 | I have gnash working on 64 bit firefox but can get it to work in Konq....any ideas? |
09:12.45 | Jucato | hehe :) |
09:13.08 | jordo23 | 64 bit konq... |
09:13.24 | canllaith | You can apparently do it with 32 bit flash plugin if you compile nspluginwrapper the right way |
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09:14.23 | canllaith | there are no packages for the konqueror gnash plugin that can be used? |
09:14.38 | jordo23 | canllaith: tried that.....failed |
09:15.26 | jordo23 | If I do About:plugins in Konq it states there are three flash plugins installed.....I only see one in the plugin settings menu though... |
09:16.33 | canllaith | I'm afraid I'm no use, I've never used a 64bit distro. |
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09:22.05 | AMorozov | Hi! |
09:22.27 | AMorozov | I have a question regarding kpdf and font rendering. |
09:23.15 | logixoul | jordo23: configure konqueror->plugins->scan->scan for new plugins |
09:23.36 | AMorozov | I have a pdf which uses arial bold font (a corresponding font from Microsoft Web Pack is used) and I can't get antialiasing in it. |
09:24.03 | jordo23 | logixoul: That was like four hours ago.....I know how to tell Konq to find plugins, I just need it to work with gnash's .so file |
09:24.12 | logixoul | ok |
09:24.25 | AMorozov | The font itself (in the interface etc) is rendered correctly, evince also handles this PDF correctly, but not kpdf. |
09:25.40 | AMorozov | How can I configure kpdf or maybe do smth else to solve the problem? |
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09:28.57 | Moosejaw | hey all |
09:29.41 | Moosejaw | i just tried to install kubuntu and now when i login i get a kdestartupconfig error |
09:29.50 | Moosejaw | can someone help me fix this? |
09:29.55 | jordo23 | does ANYONE know why if I have gnash working in 64 bit FF in KDE (Ubuntu 64) why it would not work in Konq if it sees it? |
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09:32.44 | logixoul | jordo23: it may be crashing, due to the different ns plugin wrapper code |
09:33.07 | logixoul | Moosejaw: what's the exact error message? |
09:33.40 | AMorozov | Anybody? |
09:34.18 | jordo23 | logixoul: I am not using nspluginwrapper....just libgnashplugin.so....is working in firefox too |
09:34.56 | Moosejaw | kogix that is it |
09:35.03 | AMorozov | bye |
09:35.05 | Moosejaw | logixoul thats it... |
09:35.05 | logixoul | AMorozov: a bad workaround might be to remove the font from your system so another font (possibly an antialiasable one) gets used |
09:35.25 | AMorozov | logixoul: but the font itself is Ok. |
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09:35.42 | AMorozov | logixoul: probably it's a kpdf/xpdf problem. |
09:35.45 | Moosejaw | could not load kdestartupconfig |
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09:36.03 | logixoul | AMorozov: yep, i get it, but i don't know what causes the misrendering. you might wanna file a bug against kpdf. |
09:36.27 | Moosejaw | when i looked at the errors in detail it seemed that kde did not have permission to write/make the appropriate directories |
09:36.31 | AMorozov | logixoul: Ok, probably you're right. Thank you. |
09:36.38 | AMorozov | bye |
09:36.40 | logixoul | bye |
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09:37.42 | jordo23 | I just don't get it......libgnashplugin.so works fine in Firefox.....but not Konq.... |
09:38.20 | jordo23 | Also, when going about:plugins there are three entries for Shockwave flash player in Konq....I think that's wierd because only one plugin shows up in plugin settings... |
09:38.42 | logixoul | so gnash isn't in about:plugins? |
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09:43.40 | Moosejaw | logixoul no idea on how to help me fix my kde issue? |
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09:44.45 | logixoul | Moosejaw: mv ~/.kde kde~ |
09:44.56 | logixoul | Moosejaw: then try again |
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09:55.00 | jordo23 | logixoul: it is.....but I can't get it to start a movie nor do I see a right click menu for gnash.. |
09:55.14 | logixoul | ok |
09:56.13 | logixoul | you did install gnash-konqueror-plugin, right? |
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09:56.32 | jordo23 | logixoul: yes |
09:56.58 | jordo23 | logixoul: and like I said it works fine in 64 bit FF......and konq sees it.....just doesn't want to use it... |
09:57.23 | logixoul | can't help you. |
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09:57.42 | jordo23 | logixoul: thanks though... |
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10:08.40 | jordo23 | whats the best kde program for mounting iso images (like daemon tools in windoze) |
10:08.43 | jordo23 | ? |
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10:12.07 | qupada | mount -o loop -t iso9660 ~/some_file.iso /some/folder |
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10:38.20 | Jucato | excuse me... I'm compiling some KDE modules from SVN (koffice and kdenetwork right now), and I'm encountering this error: "undefined reference to `QGLWidget::QGLWidget(QWidget*, char const*, QGLWidget const *, unsigned int)'" |
10:38.25 | Jucato | what am I missing? |
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10:45.58 | rdale | is your version of Qt built with opengl support? |
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10:47.32 | Jucato | rdale: I followed this guide, during the ./configure process, there was no option for opengl, so I'm presuming it was built with opengl support |
10:47.34 | Jucato | http://quality.kde.org/develop/cvsguide/buildstep.php |
10:49.09 | Jucato | I ran: ./configure -system-zlib -qt-gif -system-libpng -system-libjpeg -plugin-imgfmt-mng -thread -no-stl -debug -no-xinerama -no-g++-exceptions -fast |
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10:52.05 | rdale | did it build and link the opengl examples then? |
10:53.16 | Jucato | how do I check? (mid-level noob... :( ) |
10:55.00 | rdale | they're in qt-copy/examples/opengl |
10:55.45 | Jucato | the examples are in there. do I need to compile one of them to check? |
10:56.16 | rdale | maybe your qt is built with opengl, but the kdelibs build isn't correctly adding the library in the Makefiles |
10:56.41 | Jucato | oh... :( |
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10:57.22 | rdale | well see if you can build and run a qt opengl example anyway to confirm it isn't a qt thing |
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10:58.03 | Jucato | hm.. ok |
10:59.30 | rdale | the kde configure is supposed to look for opengl support on your machine and do the right thing according to whether is finds any or not |
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11:00.37 | Jucato | it didn't complain about any opengl problems earlier when I was building kdelibs and kdebase... |
11:01.46 | canllaith | Jucato: wasn't it you who said that you compiled your KDE yourself? |
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11:02.03 | Jucato | canllaith: but that was on a different user on a working Kubuntu system |
11:02.07 | Jucato | this one is from scratch... |
11:02.53 | canllaith | What distribution? I've generally found if I follow the instructions that come with qt-copy everything is fine. |
11:02.59 | vlt | Hello. CSS "overflow:hidden;" doesn't seem to work for td elements in Konqueror. Can anyone confirm this? Is there a known workaround? |
11:03.36 | Jucato | canllaith: Kubuntu. basically, I installed a minimal (command line) system and started building from that |
11:04.23 | canllaith | May I ask why? Surely it's easier to start from a system that has X11 |
11:05.44 | Jucato | canllaith: for learning mostly... and for being able to make/test patches... but I installed X from Kubuntu's repositories too |
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11:05.55 | Jucato | vlt: maybe in #khtml? |
11:06.14 | vlt | Jucato: Thanks, I'll try ... |
11:06.32 | canllaith | Have you tried using apt-get build-dep to make sure you have all the dependancies for qt and kdelibs? (sans arts, since you'll build that too I guess) |
11:07.19 | Jucato | I tried that... I'll try again... |
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11:18.00 | Jucato | is there a way to check which options where set when Qt was built? :( |
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11:22.05 | Jucato | I'll take this up again later... dinner first :( |
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11:47.58 | johey | Hi! |
11:48.01 | johey | Is there any way to force the screen to rotate by 90 degrees in KDE, even if the monitor does not have a pivot feature? |
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11:49.21 | johey | Or in Xorg maybe. It doesn't matter if I have to restart X to apply the settings. I want to use that setting permanently anyway. |
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11:51.07 | whirm | johey: it's a graphics drivers issue |
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11:51.39 | johey | whirm: Oh. How bad. =\ |
11:52.06 | whirm | johey: if you have a nvidia card look at nvidia-xconfig --rotate parm |
11:52.21 | johey | whirm: Are you sure it cannot be hacked by Xorg or KDE? |
11:52.25 | whirm | but in my gf 6600 doesn't work |
11:53.06 | whirm | johey: i'm not sure, but I don't think so |
11:53.08 | whirm | anyway |
11:53.20 | johey | whirm: Well, I do have some old nVidia card in one box, but my main machine have a VIA Unichrome thingy. I really doubt they have implemented support for such things. |
11:53.36 | whirm | try with xrandr and/or nvidia-xconfig |
11:54.48 | johey | Hm. xrandr looks interesting. Thanks! |
11:55.02 | whirm | johey: glad to help you! |
11:57.42 | johey | whirm: Hmm. With other -o (orientation) values than normal, I get some nasty error messages. Is that the response of my video driver? |
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12:07.26 | whirm | what are the err mesg? |
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12:11.08 | un_operateur | hi guys, I've been trying to help jordo23 get konqueror running from within a 32 bit chroot (he's running 64 bit ubuntu) .. the chroot has been setup fine and apps like firefox work from within it .. konqueror fails however with an error message about dcopserver already running as shown here - http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/856648 .. is there something to be done to get KDE applications running well in a chroot? |
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12:16.17 | paines | hi |
12:16.34 | Jucato | anyone know how I can explicitly link to libGL in Qt? (for KDE) |
12:17.30 | paines | Jucato, just append /usr/lib/libGL.so.whatever to you link command, or am i missing something |
12:17.53 | Jucato | hm... |
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12:18.03 | Jucato | this is for building KDE :) |
12:18.50 | annma | you need to have mesa devel |
12:18.51 | thiago | Jucato: if you're using GL methods directly, you link to libGL directly |
12:18.53 | annma | and glut |
12:18.57 | thiago | if you're using Qt's GL methods, don't link directly |
12:19.33 | Jucato | oh goodie you're both here :) |
12:20.04 | Jucato | basically, anything I build that sort of needs opengl gets this error message: undefined reference to `typeinfo for QGLWidget |
12:20.15 | Jucato | so I somehow can't build koffice and kdenetwork |
12:20.32 | Jucato | (althoug kdelibs, kdebase, kdepim, and extragears-network built fine) |
12:20.35 | thiago | undefined typeinfo? |
12:20.37 | thiago | hmmm |
12:20.49 | thiago | are you using QGLWidget in your code? |
12:20.51 | annma | no |
12:21.06 | Jucato | heh I guess I really went to far... :P |
12:21.07 | annma | Jucato: I bet you installed opengl AFTER compiling qt |
12:21.20 | annma | you need to recompile qt |
12:21.38 | Jucato | hm... |
12:21.43 | annma | do you have all GL related devel packages? |
12:21.57 | Jucato | ./configure -system-zlib -qt-gif -system-libpng -system-libjpeg -plugin-imgfmt-mng -thread -no-stl -debug -no-xinerama -no-g++-exceptions -fast |
12:21.57 | annma | I had that error once |
12:22.06 | annma | ah |
12:22.07 | Jucato | yes I think so. I have mesa, I'll check glut |
12:22.12 | annma | DEVEL |
12:22.23 | annma | mesa-devel glut-devel |
12:22.43 | annma | you miss --dlopen |
12:22.52 | annma | let me look |
12:23.03 | Jucato | hn.. looks like I don't have libglut3-dev |
12:23.06 | paines | whats wrong when no window pops' up if i plug in an usb thumb stick, or ipod, but when I put a cd in, everything it does ? |
12:23.20 | Jucato | yeah I was also wondering about the -dlopen option... |
12:24.33 | Jucato | paines: maybe KDE was configured not to show the pop up window? KControl -> Peripherals -> Storage Media contains some of the actions that would happen |
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12:25.35 | Jucato | annma: if I recompile Qt, do I need to recompile everything else? |
12:25.40 | thiago | no |
12:25.42 | thiago | just Qt |
12:25.53 | paines | Jucato, i checked that. looks good |
12:25.56 | annma | Jucato: wait, I'll look in ;y command |
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12:26.11 | Jucato | thiago: ah thanks. that's a relief eheeheh :) |
12:26.23 | Jucato | annma: I got that command from http://quality.kde.org/develop/cvsguide/buildstep.php#step4 |
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12:27.06 | annma | -dlopen-opengl |
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12:27.19 | annma | Jucato: you should not use that tutorial, it's so very old |
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12:27.27 | annma | you miss the flag above |
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12:27.38 | Jucato | hm... |
12:28.01 | Jucato | annma: you know what's funny... |
12:28.31 | Jucato | in the section for "Automatic build process" (using kdesvn-build I think) |
12:28.49 | Jucato | configure-flags -system-zlib -qt-gif -system-libpng -thread -no-exceptions -debug -fast -dlopen-opengl |
12:29.35 | Jucato | and I also have to still install the GLUT devel packages right? |
12:29.59 | annma | yes, before compiling qt |
12:30.14 | Jucato | ok thank you! :) |
12:30.34 | Jucato | sucks that I have to be on a different timezone from the three of you.. (annma, thiago, Sho_...) |
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12:35.56 | pbn | Hello, I am trying to report a bug in bugs.kde.org, using the KDE Bug Report Wizard, but I cannot find the kde application in the list... can somebody help me ? |
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12:36.36 | annma | pbn: yes, what app? |
12:36.44 | pbn | annma: kvpnc |
12:36.57 | annma | is it in kde svn repository? |
12:37.07 | pbn | annma: I don't know |
12:37.16 | annma | where didyou get it? |
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12:37.31 | annma | the Help menu should have the bug report action |
12:37.45 | Jucato | seems to be in Trunk |
12:38.03 | Jucato | http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/kdereview/kvpnc/ |
12:38.08 | annma | http://home.gna.org/kvpnc/en/index.html |
12:38.10 | pbn | wait, restarting vmware |
12:38.17 | annma | kdereview, it's not operational |
12:38.24 | Jucato | oh :) |
12:38.43 | pbn | ok |
12:38.59 | pbn | annma: I've gotten it from the ubuntu universe repository, Ubuntu 6.06.1 LTS |
12:39.10 | annma | pbn: does it has a Help menu? |
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12:39.30 | pbn | pbn: I've already created an Ubuntu bug report: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kvpnc/+bug/77950 |
12:39.35 | Jucato | in the Help menu, there's a Report Bug... option |
12:39.38 | pbn | annma: ah, help menu... gotta look |
12:40.33 | pbn | annma: aahh indeed :) |
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12:41.00 | pbn | but wait, this ubuntu machine is behind a corporate firewall... smtp won't go through it :( |
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12:43.38 | pbn | hello ? |
12:43.47 | annma | yes? |
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12:43.54 | pbn | will this bugreport tool be able to use HTTP_PROXY ? |
12:44.01 | pbn | Because this machine is behind a corporate firewall |
12:44.13 | pbn | smtp will never get out of the local network |
12:44.34 | mrwoody | hi *. I forgot the name of the command to give to update the system once I manually edited file like those in $HOME/.kde/share/services/searchproviders ... does anyone know? |
12:44.36 | annma | no idea |
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12:44.49 | Jucato | kbuildsycoca? |
12:45.03 | pbn | annma: wait I see the to: field, it's crissi99@gmx.de ... that must be the developer :) |
12:45.16 | pbn | Perhaps do you people know him :) |
12:45.27 | mrwoody | Jucato: THANKS! |
12:45.44 | pbn | lots of kde developers from Germany by the way :)... Perhaps that's why there is de in KDE :) |
12:46.56 | Jucato | :O |
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12:49.00 | annma | K-de lol |
12:49.14 | Jucato | you're ok with that annma? ;) |
12:49.24 | annma | well yes |
12:49.30 | pablo_ | hi, i can not even change the hour, it is giving me a su problem something related to kdesu |
12:49.36 | annma | my maiden name is German |
12:49.50 | annma | pablo_: what problem? |
12:49.52 | Jucato | annma: ooooh didn't know that :) |
12:49.58 | Tm_T | Hi annma &co |
12:50.07 | Jucato | Tm_T: hi sir! |
12:50.17 | Tm_T | &kids |
12:50.19 | Tm_T | ;) |
12:50.24 | pablo_ | annma: dont know kdesu semms not to work |
12:50.25 | annma | hi Tm_T |
12:50.31 | annma | pablo_: distro? |
12:50.32 | Jucato | pablo_: what distro? |
12:50.43 | annma | pablo_: what if you type 'su' in konsole? |
12:51.07 | pablo_ | annma: in that way is ok |
12:51.11 | pablo_ | Jucato: knopppix |
12:51.26 | Jucato | hm... |
12:51.36 | annma | knoppix has a thing about root |
12:51.40 | annma | read the doc |
12:51.48 | pablo_ | annma: which doc? |
12:51.54 | annma | it's normal in knoppix pablo_ |
12:51.58 | pablo_ | annma: it is installed on the hd |
12:51.58 | annma | in knoppix |
12:52.10 | pablo_ | annma: it should work normaly |
12:52.19 | pablo_ | annma: as live cd it worked ok |
12:52.24 | annma | well i have a knoppix dvd and kdesu does not work o it and I read a doc explainin it |
12:52.30 | annma | no it should not |
12:52.36 | annma | not the recent one |
12:52.39 | Jucato | pablo_: then maybe you could ask in #knoppix about it? |
12:52.46 | annma | yes, ask in #knoppix |
12:52.56 | pablo_ | i have already asked |
12:53.02 | pablo_ | seem all sleeping |
12:53.02 | annma | I am sure that my knoppix version has no root |
12:53.15 | pablo_ | annma: what did you read? |
12:53.29 | annma | some README in the DVD |
12:53.46 | annma | I look for doc when I am puzzled usually |
12:54.17 | un_operateur | hi guys, I've been trying to get konqueror running from within a 32 bit chroot (running 64 bit ubuntu) .. the chroot has been setup fine and non-kde apps like firefox work from within it .. konqueror fails however with an error message about dcopserver already running as shown here - http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/856648 .. is there something to be done to get KDE applications running well in a chroot? |
12:55.54 | KRF | un_operateur, run kdeinit in the chroot? :/ |
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13:01.41 | un_operateur | KRF, hmm, nope .. but should it matter because if the user is in a KDE session outside the chroot, kdeinit has already been run, right? |
13:01.48 | un_operateur | KRF, will give it a try anyway |
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13:03.28 | un_operateur | KRF, n/m .. it works now, apparently /var/tmp/kde* needed to be mounted into the chroot too .. and it works after that was done |
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13:06.53 | Jucato | annma: qt finished building again, I'm make'ing koffice... hope this works... :( |
13:07.26 | Jucato | and thank you :) |
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13:11.33 | MetaMorfoziS | is there a kood howto for compiling kde on kubuntu? |
13:12.05 | MetaMorfoziS | i wanna try that out |
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13:13.06 | annma | what kde? |
13:13.28 | MetaMorfoziS | latest? |
13:13.30 | MetaMorfoziS | :) |
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13:15.27 | annma | define latest? |
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13:20.22 | MetaMorfoziS | annma: go and fsck somebody else. |
13:20.35 | Tm_T | ... |
13:20.53 | MetaMorfoziS | and thanx for helping. You very helpful. |
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13:21.38 | Tm_T | Yup, no use to try to help with that attitude. |
13:22.13 | Tm_T | Atleast annma tried, but oh... /me goes polish his crystal ball |
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13:22.42 | MetaMorfoziS | i'm only asked for a good howto, this is a difficult question? |
13:23.00 | rdale | but for kde 4.x or kde 3.x? |
13:23.02 | Jucato | you're question is difficult to answer because it is vague, hence the "define latest" |
13:23.23 | MetaMorfoziS | hm, oh sorry, so 3.5.5 |
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13:23.58 | MetaMorfoziS | i'm not understanded first what he/she wants, but if he asks something like rdale, thats more helpful... |
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13:24.01 | Jucato | http://quality.kde.org/develop/cvsguide/buildstep.php <-- skip the part about building Qt |
13:24.21 | Jucato | she asked you plainly, "define latest". |
13:24.50 | MetaMorfoziS | okay. I'm missunderstanded. sorry from all. |
13:25.04 | Tm_T | Also did you mean latest stable or latest svn or ... ;) ;) |
13:25.13 | MetaMorfoziS | okayokayokay;( |
13:25.16 | tuxick | latest on debian stable! |
13:25.27 | MetaMorfoziS | thanx Jucato |
13:25.46 | Tm_T | tuxick: Hrrr. |
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13:27.19 | phrearch_ | hello |
13:27.41 | phrearch_ | i would like to burn video dvd's with k3b, but they wont read in any standalone player |
13:28.00 | phrearch_ | is there some kind of fix for this? |
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13:30.01 | grepper | phrearch_: dunno about k3b, I just use growisofs directly |
13:31.38 | phrearch_ | k3b is just a frontend for growisofs ? |
13:31.55 | phrearch_ | the dvd plays fine on the computer, but it wont on a standalone player |
13:32.26 | annma | hmm |
13:32.33 | annma | what was that about MetaMorfoziS ??? |
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13:32.54 | annma | you're rude |
13:33.10 | Tm_T | Maybe just tired, so forgive. |
13:33.18 | Jucato | annma: someone who doesn't understand the "nuances" of the English language, I think |
13:33.33 | Jucato | (judging from his grammar, it's not his native tongue...) |
13:33.36 | annma | well I hope he does not install trunk |
13:33.51 | Tm_T | =) |
13:34.00 | annma | because he is running into trouble |
13:34.01 | MetaMorfoziS | :/ |
13:34.07 | Tm_T | annma: Or you hope he does, as punishment. ;) |
13:34.11 | annma | well at least you are warned MetaMorfoziS |
13:34.26 | Jucato | MetaMorfoziS: just so you'd know, if you try to compile, you're in for a lot of headaches |
13:34.37 | Jucato | not to mention you need lots of time and space |
13:34.37 | MetaMorfoziS | Jucato: yes, this isn'T my default languaage;) |
13:34.46 | The_Ball | was there a "scan for new programs" in kmenueditor before? |
13:34.51 | MetaMorfoziS | Jucato: yes, I'm checked the howto, and I'm moved this project to weekend;) |
13:34.57 | annma | this isn't mine either not is it th eone for ;ost people here |
13:34.59 | grepper | phrearch_: dunno: if you want try: growisofs -Z /dev/dvd -dvd-video DVD_DIR/ |
13:35.02 | Jucato | The_Ball: kappfinder |
13:35.07 | annma | we are not rude however |
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13:35.08 | The_Ball | Jucato, thanks! |
13:35.42 | MetaMorfoziS | yes, in opposite of me...:/ |
13:36.37 | annma | did I hear your apologies? |
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13:37.27 | MetaMorfoziS | yes, but you not understand my poor english's "nuance"s:D |
13:37.41 | annma | my english also is por |
13:37.45 | annma | se |
13:37.48 | Tm_T | por favor. ;) |
13:37.52 | annma | see cannot even type it |
13:37.56 | MetaMorfoziS | but betther than mine;) |
13:38.03 | MetaMorfoziS | h- |
13:38.06 | annma | my keyboard is sticky |
13:38.20 | annma | anyway if you want to build kde 3.5.5 |
13:38.31 | MetaMorfoziS | i need some machohism |
13:38.33 | Tm_T | Now hug as peace? ;) |
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13:39.15 | annma | http://developer.kde.org/build/stable.html |
13:39.20 | annma | here is the link to the doc |
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13:39.36 | annma | note you'll need lots of devel packages from your distros |
13:39.38 | Jucato | oh that link might be better |
13:39.52 | annma | X devel, Mesa devel, glut devel, and so forth |
13:40.06 | Jucato | annma: that guide also leaves out -dlopen-opengl |
13:40.13 | annma | Jucato: that link is supposed to be the official one |
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13:40.25 | Jucato | MetaMorfoziS: xorg-dev and kde-devel mostly |
13:40.32 | annma | Jucato: nooooooooooo |
13:40.39 | annma | nt kde-devel!!! |
13:40.43 | Jucato | er.. |
13:40.45 | Jucato | sorry lol |
13:40.49 | annma | not kde-devel |
13:40.51 | MetaMorfoziS | :) |
13:40.54 | Jucato | yeah I forgot |
13:41.10 | Jucato | MetaMorfoziS: xorg-dev and some other stuff... just be prepared to hunt them down when needed |
13:41.36 | Jucato | annma: sorry sorry :) |
13:41.44 | annma | ;0 |
13:41.44 | MetaMorfoziS | okay, okay, but as i said, i'm come back to the kde compiling project @the weekend |
13:41.50 | MetaMorfoziS | i'm too tired for this at thistime.. |
13:41.56 | Jucato | MetaMorfoziS: good luck, you'll need lots of it |
13:42.09 | Jucato | luck, time, patience, hard drive space |
13:42.12 | annma | what will you do with it MetaMorfoziS ? |
13:42.29 | MetaMorfoziS | ? |
13:42.32 | annma | compared to the one your distro ships? |
13:42.42 | sampo- | I heart, that KDE is going lessen KDE's configurable? Are this this true, that KDE is going to more Gnome's way? |
13:42.42 | annma | there won't be many differences |
13:42.51 | Jucato | MetaMorfoziS: she means, why do you want to compile KDE |
13:42.54 | annma | sampo-: you heard it where? |
13:42.58 | MetaMorfoziS | oh |
13:43.04 | sampo- | Some forum |
13:43.07 | Jucato | yea heart it where? :) |
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13:43.17 | annma | sampo-: link? |
13:43.17 | Jucato | that some forum is *wrong* |
13:43.21 | Jucato | w-r-o-n-g |
13:43.21 | MetaMorfoziS | no, i'm just boredom, and i want to upgrade my knowledge, and test the performance differences |
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13:43.42 | annma | MetaMorfoziS: start by compiling some kde apps on your current install |
13:43.45 | Jucato | MetaMorfoziS: hm... I suggest starting small... how are you at compiling single apps |
13:43.49 | MetaMorfoziS | thas ready |
13:43.53 | MetaMorfoziS | t |
13:44.00 | annma | Jucato: ;) |
13:44.04 | sampo- | I chekc out link for you, wait |
13:44.05 | Jucato | hehe :) |
13:44.07 | annma | we think the same now |
13:44.13 | MetaMorfoziS | :) |
13:44.14 | Jucato | annma: I learn from the best :) |
13:44.17 | annma | lol |
13:44.21 | MetaMorfoziS | i'm not a very newbie |
13:44.25 | MetaMorfoziS | i'm a little newbie |
13:44.26 | MetaMorfoziS | :) |
13:44.32 | annma | ok |
13:44.44 | MetaMorfoziS | i'm using kubuntu about a year, and i'm in love with kde;) |
13:45.01 | annma | sampo-: and do you think it's a good thing or a bad one? |
13:45.10 | Jucato | (except this time...) |
13:45.31 | MetaMorfoziS | Jucato:yes, i think the same, i can build the 90%of that apps that i want |
13:45.53 | MetaMorfoziS | and i have my own kernel @ home |
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13:46.32 | Jucato | compiling a kernel can be easy or hard, depending on which guide you followed... |
13:46.59 | johey | whirm: Oh sorry. I ran out for lunch without telling you. About the xrandr error messages... Here is my output: http://pastebin.ca/313037 |
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13:47.05 | MetaMorfoziS | where is the place where i can write some howto-s about kde, for lamers?:) |
13:47.21 | MetaMorfoziS | i have one, the full firefox integration to kde in hungarian |
13:47.33 | MetaMorfoziS | that i created 2days ago |
13:47.35 | Jucato | MetaMorfoziS: in your own website, for starters :) |
13:47.50 | Jucato | hm... |
13:48.15 | annma | in the hu kde website |
13:48.17 | whirm | johey: what do you get if you run xrandr w/o args? |
13:48.28 | annma | general KDE websites are in english |
13:48.28 | Jucato | annma: you're in #kde-www right? |
13:48.35 | MetaMorfoziS | kde hu website is hm... :) check: http://kde.hu/ |
13:48.44 | MetaMorfoziS | i think that isn't maintained about 90years |
13:48.49 | annma | Jucato: yes |
13:48.54 | Jucato | oh ok |
13:49.19 | johey | whirm: http://pastebin.ca/313040 |
13:49.22 | MetaMorfoziS | i wanted my howto to "translate" to english, thats why i asked, where i can |
13:49.51 | annma | when it's done just tell me MetaMorfoziS |
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13:50.17 | sampo- | annma: Link is there: http://forum.ubuntu-fi.org/index.php?topic=7577.msg54598#msg54598 But it's only in finnish language |
13:50.18 | whirm | johey: Rotations possible - normal <<<---- you cannot rotate screen with your drivers |
13:50.33 | MetaMorfoziS | hm, ok anyways check this: http://mindenseg.buzz.hu/files/ff_before.png and http://mindenseg.buzz.hu/files/ff_after.png this;) |
13:50.35 | johey | whirm: :( Oki, thanks! |
13:50.36 | annma | ubuntu forum? |
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13:50.47 | sampo- | and kubuntu |
13:51.02 | annma | sampo-: who posted that then? and what does it say exactly? |
13:51.02 | MetaMorfoziS | hehey, ubuntuforum, kood! i'm forget that full |
13:51.25 | whirm | johey: no prob |
13:51.38 | Jucato | MetaMorfoziS: if you're guide is spefically oriented for Kubuntu, the Kubuntu wiki is the most appropriate place for it |
13:51.50 | MetaMorfoziS | not for kubuntu |
13:51.53 | MetaMorfoziS | for kde and firefox |
13:52.03 | Jucato | annma: it looks like the Finland ubuntu forum... |
13:52.07 | sampo- | about "Changis are happed, because kde is looking forward to gnomes way, ther where gnome makes some handshake to kde" |
13:52.18 | annma | lol |
13:52.27 | annma | who wrote that? |
13:52.29 | Jucato | MetaMorfoziS: using what distro? using what package manager? |
13:52.29 | Tm_T | sampo-: Wtf |
13:52.41 | Tm_T | sampo-: Kurkkaanpa. |
13:52.55 | sampo- | jep |
13:52.57 | MetaMorfoziS | that's not important, but the kgtk is in my howto is in .deb |
13:52.59 | annma | and what does "the gnome way" mean? |
13:53.12 | MetaMorfoziS | but that is available as source |
13:53.16 | MetaMorfoziS | anyways, i use synaptic:/ |
13:53.32 | sampo- | annma: Drop konfability, I do not know right word in english |
13:53.48 | annma | how do we do that? |
13:53.53 | Jucato | MetaMorfoziS: it's important, if your guide specifically mentions apps or packages that are not common to all/most distros |
13:53.58 | annma | drop config dialogs? |
13:54.14 | sampo- | I ask Tm_T help for translation |
13:54.57 | MetaMorfoziS | i think that's possible to say: install kgtk <link>from package</link> or <link>from source</link>... |
13:55.17 | sampo- | Tm_T: Yritn siis sanoa, ett tuo janne vitt, ett KDe on luopumassa muokattavuudestaan |
13:55.19 | MetaMorfoziS | other changes are only in the userchrome.css and the install directory of firefox |
13:55.27 | MetaMorfoziS | (whereis firefox) |
13:55.45 | MetaMorfoziS | but, i think i write a test howto to ubuntuforums |
13:56.01 | MetaMorfoziS | and then others ports that to other distros, or any distro |
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13:56.29 | Jucato | MetaMorfoziS: yes, it would be best to put it up first in the distro where you have tested it to work, then test it on other distros |
13:56.35 | Jucato | or have other people test them |
13:57.09 | sampo- | annma: Something like that, that KDE drop's out possibility to make own conf and some wizard's tms. like gnome are going to replace it |
13:57.12 | Tm_T | sampo-: Ei siin niin sanota, vaan ett pient lhestymist on tapahtumassa, nin min sen tulkitsin. |
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13:57.33 | Mirrakor | is there a special channel for korganizer? |
13:57.47 | Tm_T | Mirrakor: #kontact ? |
13:57.48 | Jucato | Mirrakor: try kontact |
13:57.57 | Jucato | darn! forgot the # :P |
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13:58.07 | sampo- | Tm_T: But read full thread? But it is not first time, when I missunderstund |
13:58.19 | Tm_T | sampo-: Done already. |
13:58.27 | sampo- | ok. Maybe I missunderstund. |
13:58.52 | Tm_T | annma: Short and simple, one writer just says that KDE and Gnome are slowly coming more close, nothing radical. |
13:59.11 | Jucato | heh :) |
13:59.37 | Tm_T | :) |
13:59.52 | Tm_T | sampo-: "hieman" ;) |
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14:00.37 | annma | sampo-: there are no hints that kde will change its config system |
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14:01.04 | Tm_T | I hope KDE will remain KDE. |
14:01.09 | Tm_T | And I believe so. |
14:01.13 | Jucato | it will |
14:01.19 | Jucato | it will never become GDE :P |
14:01.30 | Tm_T | Yup, there's no reason to do that. |
14:01.51 | Jucato | but people must be open to change... change is inevitable |
14:02.01 | Tm_T | True. |
14:02.04 | Jucato | specially HIG/HCI changes |
14:02.10 | Mirrakor | freedome is to have options to choose between |
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14:02.37 | sampo- | annma: That's good to hear |
14:03.08 | Tm_T | Jucato: So give 'em some love. |
14:03.20 | Jucato | Tm_T: when I get stable again :) |
14:03.30 | Tm_T | Jucato: But stay away from me, you still don't have your new chipset installed. |
14:03.33 | Jucato | Tm_T: I'm not even stable enough to start studying again :P |
14:03.46 | Tm_T | Stable? Whats that? |
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14:04.13 | Jucato | Tm_T: it's the state of being unchanging, static, stagnant, and boring :P |
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14:05.16 | Tm_T | Jucato: Hmm, like me? |
14:05.47 | Tm_T | Jucato: Btw you forgot "old". ;) |
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14:07.09 | Jucato | Tm_T: oh you can be old without being stagnant :P |
14:07.27 | Tm_T | Jucato: I can?! |
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14:07.52 | Jucato | oh no *you* can't |
14:07.58 | Jucato | others can ;P |
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14:08.28 | Tm_T | ...was it you who called me "feces" ?! |
14:08.34 | Tm_T | ;--P |
14:08.56 | Jucato | I'm not that tactless |
14:09.01 | Tm_T | You was. |
14:09.19 | Jucato | I would have called you an excretion :) |
14:09.28 | Tm_T | Ok, I need some food so see y'all later. -> |
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14:11.05 | Jucato | bye :) |
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14:18.10 | chb | hi |
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14:22.24 | chb | how do I get kmail to recognize my gpg keys? |
14:23.02 | Thundercloud | chb: With great difficulty! |
14:24.30 | chb | I see :-) |
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14:41.08 | ErenTurkay | hi all |
14:41.36 | ErenTurkay | is there a program for selecting and unicode character? |
14:42.00 | Jucato | kcharselect? |
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14:42.07 | Tm_T | ErenTurkay: kcharselect |
14:42.11 | Mirrakor | chb: that's easy isn't it? |
14:42.18 | Tm_T | Jucato: Hrr, you young and fast. |
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14:42.30 | Jucato | Tm_T: no. you're just busy |
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14:43.25 | ErenTurkay | thanks |
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14:43.45 | chb | Mirrakor» not if you can't select any keys :-/ |
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14:45.11 | Mirrakor | chb: why can't you select any keys? (GPG Agent installed and running?) |
14:45.24 | chb | yes kgpg works with gpg-agent |
14:45.48 | Mirrakor | chb: yes, and I simply can select a default key in Kmail.. |
14:46.10 | xushi__ | strange.. I've created a button in my kmenu that starts konsole as a different user (root), but when i click on it, even though it works, it alawys takes a long time, and i always get the error message "KDEInit could not launch 'kdesu'. Either that, or my kicker freezes |
14:46.24 | chb | Mirrakor» it shows no keys |
14:46.52 | Mirrakor | chb: hm.. you have any Idea why? (you have a secret key in your keyring? ) |
14:47.12 | chb | yes |
14:47.52 | Mirrakor | hm..strange |
14:48.03 | chb | indeed |
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14:51.02 | chb | the gpg-agent is working - but not in kmail .. hmm |
14:51.20 | Mirrakor | where is gpg-agent/conf located? |
14:52.01 | chb | ~/.gnupg/gpg-agent.conf |
14:52.50 | Mirrakor | hm.. should be accessable |
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14:53.39 | Mirrakor | what's if you refresh/regenerate keycache in gnupg? |
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14:55.45 | chb | tried that - nothing |
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14:57.48 | MaxtoR | Hi |
14:58.36 | Mirrakor | hu |
14:58.52 | chb | libkleopatra: WARNING: Running 'gpgconf --list-options dirmngr' f |
14:58.53 | chb | ailed. Die Operation ist nicht erlaubt, but try that command to see the real output - I get that when I try to reread the crypto modules |
14:58.54 | Mirrakor | chb: distro? |
14:58.57 | chb | slackware 11 |
14:59.24 | Mirrakor | well try that command to get the real output :D |
14:59.27 | MaxtoR | i speak russia |
15:00.25 | MaxtoR | "5,0 [17:59]<MaxtoR> i speak russia" |
15:00.26 | Mirrakor | he speak english :D |
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15:00.52 | chb | dirmngr - command not found - ehm |
15:01.12 | Mirrakor | hm, try to get it :) |
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15:02.03 | MaxtoR | Mirrakor ->fuk |
15:02.18 | Mirrakor | MaxtoR: excuse me please? oô |
15:02.49 | MaxtoR | <Mirrakor> *STOP* |
15:03.09 | James-S | :o |
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15:03.45 | MaxtoR | "5,0 [18:02]<Mirrakor> MaxtoR: excuse me please? oô" *THUMBS UP*:-) |
15:04.12 | MaxtoR | <PROTECTED> |
15:04.26 | Mirrakor | yes, you said that |
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15:05.28 | MinceR | MaxtoR: perhaps you could speak without those stupid colors |
15:05.29 | annma | MaxtoR: ask your KDE question please |
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15:05.36 | Mirrakor | [16:01] <Mirrakor> hm, try to get it :) @ chb |
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15:06.10 | MaxtoR | <PROTECTED> |
15:06.23 | annma | do you have a kde question in English? |
15:06.33 | chb | Mirrakor» yes - doing that right now |
15:06.41 | Mirrakor | chb: good :) |
15:06.46 | annma | we don't speak russian |
15:07.00 | MaxtoR | Yes |
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15:08.15 | MaxtoR | "5,0 [18:06]<MaxtoR> i speak russia:-( |
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15:09.02 | annma | stop using your colors and stop repeating the same thing MaxtoR |
15:09.20 | annma | you speak a little English it seems |
15:10.09 | MaxtoR | annma -> *STOP* |
15:10.37 | chb | Mirrakor» the error is gone but thats all :) |
15:10.55 | MaxtoR | [18:08]*** Вас кикнул annma (annma) |
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15:11.27 | Mirrakor | chb: so still no keys? |
15:11.28 | MaxtoR | He |
15:11.30 | chb | nope |
15:11.34 | Jucato | annma: might as well ban him |
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15:11.46 | annma | yes that'll be next |
15:11.53 | Mirrakor | hm, annma first want's to make his position clear |
15:12.00 | annma | her |
15:12.04 | Jucato | :) |
15:12.05 | Mirrakor | her :D |
15:12.12 | MaxtoR | <PROTECTED> |
15:12.45 | Mirrakor | chb: you tried to regenerate your keycache know? (again) |
15:12.49 | MaxtoR | Ha Fuk |
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15:13.53 | Spawn311 | does anyone know if there is address book program for kde that is just that only (not looking for something like kcontact) |
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15:14.26 | MaxtoR | <PROTECTED> |
15:14.35 | Jucato | Spawn311: kaddressbook |
15:14.43 | chb | Mirrakor» won't help - thats very strange :/ |
15:14.45 | Jucato | Spawn311: Kontact is just using different apps |
15:14.56 | Mirrakor | Spawn311: hm.. AFAIK is kontact just a collection of programms, e.g it uses kaddressbook for contact tabs |
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15:15.10 | annma | that's it |
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15:15.23 | Jucato | :) |
15:15.29 | Jucato | kick! kick! kick! |
15:15.33 | Mirrakor | chb: tried to access gpg keys with any other application? |
15:15.52 | chb | Mirrakor» yes it works with kgpg and sylpheed |
15:16.26 | Mirrakor | hm.. that's even stranger.. |
15:17.36 | Mirrakor | chb: have you asked in a slackware specific channel, if they changed something with configs? |
15:17.46 | Spawn311 | the kaddressbook site says the program has been deprecated in favor of kcontact -- so does the mean the tool on the way out. |
15:18.10 | chb | Mirrakor» I should do that - maybe I need to rebuild kmail or something but thx for helping me |
15:18.44 | Jucato | Spawn311: kaddressbook is a program that can be run apart from kontact |
15:19.13 | Jucato | Kontact is like a house/container for various kdepim apps: kaddressbook, kmail, korganizer, knotes, akregator, etc |
15:19.25 | Jucato | all those apps can run standalone or within kontact |
15:19.41 | Spawn311 | ok Jucato: thank you for clearing that up it helps a lot |
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15:21.14 | Mirrakor | chb np and good luck |
15:22.09 | James-S | Hi there |
15:22.10 | James-S | :-) |
15:22.10 | Jucato | minimalist... I find that running some apps in one window is actually more minimal than having 5 separate windows for each :) |
15:23.07 | Mirrakor | it really is |
15:23.32 | MetaMorfoziS | heyau |
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15:23.52 | MetaMorfoziS | i'm back, i have written my firefox integration howto, i'mwait for the moderators to accept it... |
15:23.55 | MetaMorfoziS | yuppey. |
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15:28.00 | gemidjy | what is the point of KWallet, when it asks for the passwords of my KMail accounts everytime I restart X? And I have 4 accounts which makes that annoying |
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15:28.20 | pablo | hi, i have a problem with kdesu |
15:28.23 | thiago | it stores other passwords |
15:28.33 | Jucato | gemidjy: it shouldn't, actually. |
15:28.36 | thiago | the point of KWallet is to store all your passwords in one encrypted place and protect it with a single password |
15:28.51 | thiago | KMail will, therefore, not ask for one password per account |
15:28.56 | Jucato | it should only be asking for the password to that wallet when it is first opened |
15:29.12 | gemidjy | thiago: but on the other hand not to ask me every time I try to check mail for every acc |
15:29.27 | gemidjy | Jucato: it asks for the pass of the wallet, then it asks for each separate account |
15:29.27 | Sho_ | Jucato: How's your compilation orgy coming along? |
15:29.28 | thiago | it doesn't ask every time, much less for each account |
15:29.32 | gemidjy | the same is with Kopete too |
15:29.36 | Jucato | Sho_: er... gone bad a bit |
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15:29.43 | Sho_ | Jucato: How so? |
15:29.48 | Jucato | gemidjy: something's definitely wrong on your end |
15:30.21 | pablo | hi, i have a problem with kdesu |
15:30.24 | Jucato | Sho_: koffice and kdenetwork didn't build, because Qt wasn't built with -dlopen-opengl. now I have to rebuild kdelibs too :) |
15:30.34 | gemidjy | Jucato: it works over there? |
15:30.40 | bline | gemidjy: You try restarting kde? |
15:30.42 | Jucato | gemidjy: yep. for everything |
15:30.54 | gemidjy | bline: as I said, it happens when I restart X, so the answer is yes |
15:30.56 | Sho_ | gemidjy: It's possible the expiry settings of your wallet are unreasonably short, or perhaps you're actually not using KWallet at all - have a look around in the KWallet and wallet settings |
15:31.10 | gemidjy | I do use it :) |
15:31.20 | gemidjy | the passwords are listen in the wallet I choose |
15:31.26 | bline | gemidjy: I've seen that happen on my system. It was usually after a power outage and some file was corrupted. |
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15:31.49 | gemidjy | bline: it is not first time, so no corruption involved I suppose |
15:31.55 | gemidjy | might be Kubuntu issue however |
15:32.07 | Jucato | Sho_: I guess that should be a lesson for me to make sure that Qt is solid first :( |
15:32.16 | Jucato | gemidjy: not really. I'm using Kubuntu. no problem here |
15:32.30 | Jucato | gemidjy: you could ask in #kubuntu if others had the same problems, though |
15:32.51 | gemidjy | brb, let me check now |
15:33.44 | Sho_ | Jucato: Learning from mistakes, I guess :) |
15:34.15 | Jucato | Sho_: yep. it's fun, exciting, adventurous, annoying, exasperating, exhausting, worrying, and all :) |
15:34.34 | Jucato | I just don't know how long I can afford staying like this, though. I have work to do... :O |
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15:34.46 | Jucato | one that needs scribus... |
15:34.52 | Jucato | btw, is there a KDE DTP app? |
15:34.58 | Sho_ | Jucato: If you mind my asking, why don't you boot a live-cd and do the compilation orgy in a chroot? |
15:35.02 | Sho_ | Jucato: Scribus |
15:35.13 | Jucato | isn't Scribus just Qt, not KDE? |
15:35.35 | Sho_ | I thought it used kdelibs too on Linux |
15:35.36 | Sho_ | Not sure |
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15:35.40 | pablo | hi, i have a problem with kdesu |
15:35.41 | Jucato | Sho_: well, I have X up, and KDE, kdepim, extragear-network |
15:35.54 | Sho_ | pablo: You said so, and still haven't given us any details about your problem |
15:36.10 | Sho_ | Jucato: ah |
15:37.15 | pablo | Sho_: how do i get deteils about my problem |
15:37.39 | pablo | Sho_: i only know i cant run aplication that use that for xample the clock |
15:38.35 | Sho_ | pablo: Try running it from a Konsole and see if any interesting error output appears |
15:38.56 | pablo | Sho_: no, just a messege that says error in su |
15:39.16 | Jucato | Sho_: ah I think I remember his situation. su works, kdesu doesn't. he's on Knoppix |
15:39.28 | MetaMorfoziS | :) |
15:39.30 | Jucato | annma mentioned earlier that it was a problem with Knoppix |
15:39.58 | chb | Mirrakor» it works - my version of gpgme was too old ;-) |
15:40.03 | pablo | Jucato: exactly |
15:40.22 | pablo | Jucato: dont know what to do |
15:40.27 | Mirrakor | chb: is there no update tool for slackware? :) |
15:40.30 | Jucato | neither do I... :( |
15:40.39 | annma | pablo: use konsole for su |
15:40.48 | Jucato | pablo: the best people to know what to do would be the ones using KNOPPIX |
15:40.49 | annma | what do you need su for? |
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15:41.16 | chb | Mirrakor» heh no slack has no package management ;-) |
15:41.27 | pablo | annma: i dont need su but yes kdesu for many thngs |
15:41.31 | Mirrakor | chb: ups, didn't know that :D [well I'm away :D] |
15:41.41 | annma | pablo: for what? |
15:41.42 | pablo | Jucato: but in #knoppix they dont answer |
15:41.45 | chb | heh cu |
15:41.49 | Mirrakor | thx :) |
15:41.53 | pablo | annma: change hour use kwlan |
15:41.53 | annma | pablo: for what you need kdesu? |
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15:41.59 | Jucato | pablo: welcome to FOSS IRC support :) |
15:42.03 | annma | do that from konsole |
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15:47.42 | MetaMorfoziS | hmm, qt is fully-free? not dual licenced or anything other? (the faq said, its fully free) (http://docs.kde.org/stable/en/kdebase/faq/licensing.html#id2566421) or am imissunderstanding something? |
15:48.16 | MetaMorfoziS | is it free for productivity use? or how it said |
15:48.23 | pablo | MetaMorfoziS: it is |
15:48.44 | Jucato | MetaMorfoziS: still dual licensed. absolutely free for open source |
15:49.17 | MetaMorfoziS | so it's only pay needed if i create a project with it, and i want to sell that (if the project is closed source) |
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15:49.38 | MetaMorfoziS | and what about gtk? that is absolute free for all type of use? |
15:49.39 | pablo | MetaMorfoziS: all those licenses are supported by fsf |
15:49.50 | pablo | MetaMorfoziS: also |
15:50.01 | MetaMorfoziS | ? |
15:50.23 | MetaMorfoziS | so that flame, kde is a crap because gtk's licenses are better is an idiotism? |
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15:50.59 | pablo | MetaMorfoziS: long time ago kde use qt that was under another license |
15:51.42 | MetaMorfoziS | hm, ok |
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15:56.40 | aspedia | Hello all :) |
15:57.39 | aspedia | I have to do a migration from kmail to thunderbird on a microsoft machine and can not find a way to do that |
15:57.53 | aspedia | Im looking for an export function or similiar |
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15:58.03 | aspedia | and can not find it |
15:58.04 | jpoisson | hi |
15:58.08 | aspedia | can somone help? |
15:58.49 | Jucato | aspedia: you could try asking in #kontact |
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16:01.06 | aspedia | okay! |
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16:03.53 | gemidjy | thiago Jucato https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdeutils/+bug/67521 , solved the issue |
16:04.10 | gemidjy | we should check weather it is Kubuntu issue or general KWallet bug |
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16:05.08 | Jucato | strange, never had that problem before... |
16:05.27 | Jucato | it's definitely a Kubuntu issue as non-Kubuntu users don't seem to have a problem |
16:06.16 | gemidjy | well there are also kubuntu users that do NOT have this problem |
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16:22.44 | Zumu | hi :) |
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16:25.24 | James-S | hi |
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16:26.07 | Zumu | James-S hello :) i wanted to ask if you have checked out svn repositry of KDE ? >_> |
16:26.44 | James-S | Not recently |
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16:28.33 | Zumu | James-S do you know if somewhere are archived(?) checkouts ? |
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16:29.04 | Zumu | i mean for me to download 'em and continue updating by myself :) |
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16:29.25 | XVampireX | Anyone here has a kdetalk account? It seems to be down :-/ |
16:29.48 | James-S | I've got one.. although apparently i'm disconnected |
16:30.09 | XVampireX | Me too |
16:30.16 | XVampireX | It seems to be down :-/ |
16:30.21 | Zumu | XVampireX :( |
16:30.26 | XVampireX | I really need a 100% up jabber server |
16:30.39 | gdiebel | dcop call for "activate window demaning attention" ? |
16:31.06 | XVampireX | ctrl+alt+a |
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16:31.31 | gdiebel | nah i wish to script it with dcop not a keyboard shortcut |
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16:33.34 | XVampireX | gdiebel: Cause you work alot with the console or something? :) |
16:33.47 | XVampireX | I bet the way it does it with the keyboard shortcut is related to the dcop call, hehe :) |
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16:37.14 | Zumu | JamesB192__ i wish i could :) |
16:38.18 | Jucato | ?? |
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17:53.59 | James-S | I forgot to say happy 10th birthday |
17:55.05 | Jucato | heh.. you're 3 months late :) |
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17:56.34 | James-S | Sorry :-) |
17:56.49 | Q-collective | Jucato: so? he still had a 9 month window :p |
17:57.37 | Jucato | heh :) |
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17:58.07 | Moosejaw | hi all... |
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17:58.11 | James-S | Hello |
17:58.23 | tuxman | hi all |
17:58.56 | James-S | haha |
17:58.57 | James-S | http://www.zombo.com/ |
17:58.58 | James-S | :-D |
17:59.03 | Moosejaw | i just installed kubuntu, and I messed up the screen resolution. It was generic and I believe chose 1680x1050 on auto, and now when I select that I get a lower rate. Can someone help me out? |
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17:59.16 | Moosejaw | how can i set it back to default? |
17:59.23 | tuxman | I'm wondering whether there is a way to sync google calendar with korganizer (in write mode as well) |
17:59.28 | Moosejaw | its also screwed up on gnome as well... |
17:59.48 | James-S | Perhaps your card is installed incorrectly/monitor |
18:00.01 | Moosejaw | its when i messed with the monitor settings |
18:00.10 | Moosejaw | i chose a dell laptop 1680x1050 |
18:00.14 | Moosejaw | which i have |
18:00.22 | tuxman | I've only succeeded in adding a remote file ics and reading google calendar in readonly mode. |
18:00.50 | Moosejaw | i cant get it back to the original settings, and Im tired of restarting |
18:00.50 | Moosejaw | hehe |
18:00.59 | tuxman | Moosejaw: set it in /etc/X11/xorg.conf |
18:01.06 | Moosejaw | k |
18:01.14 | Moosejaw | i should also have a backup most likely |
18:01.23 | tuxman | good |
18:02.04 | tuxman | can someone help me with that problem? |
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18:02.58 | tuxman | problem: use korganizer in order to read and write google calendar (I can only read for now) |
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18:21.58 | zce | isnt there an option to block screen after X minutes, regardless of the computer is idle or not? and then dont let the user login for Y minutes (like a "please, relax a bit")? |
18:22.14 | PhilRod | rsibreak |
18:22.35 | Jucato | hi PhilRod! :) |
18:22.39 | Jucato | (and good night!) |
18:22.41 | cb400f | zce: or workrave |
18:22.47 | PhilRod | hi Jucato :-) |
18:23.11 | Jucato | rsibreak has the added advantage of being a kde app :) |
18:23.58 | cb400f | Jucato: yup.. forgot which channel I was in.. thought it was #suse.. but to my defense.. SUSE has workrave-kde (workrave with some kde-integration) |
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18:35.10 | graeme_ | Cool...I got my resolution fixed |
18:35.38 | graeme_ | how do I use a cursor theme in kde? |
18:36.08 | graeme_ | i found the link, but it doesnt seem to switch the cursor when i select a new one? or is there a mouse properties area like in gnome? |
18:36.34 | Bademeister | set it in kcontrol |
18:37.13 | graeme_ | where is that found in the menu? |
18:37.21 | graeme_ | i know i can type it....just want to see where it is |
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18:47.56 | HooFoo | Hi |
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18:48.13 | HooFoo | Kde 4ever |
18:49.12 | James-S | Yep, KDE is the daddy |
18:49.38 | HooFoo | Есть русские |
18:49.40 | anisfarhana | and the mommy too |
18:49.42 | HooFoo | ? |
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19:09.04 | texnofobix | hi aseigo |
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19:11.11 | logixoul | the "checking dependencies" stage in the YOU loading is running for half an hour already. what should i do? |
19:11.17 | logixoul | sorry, wrong tab |
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19:14.07 | mariux | why is there no "copy image url" in the picture right click menu in konq? |
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19:15.06 | logixoul | mariux: because you can see the url in the location bar |
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19:17.09 | logixoul | mariux: also, using the "Embeddable Image Viewer" (as opposed to gwenview's kpart) you have exactly what you want ;) |
19:18.39 | annma | mariux: copy is exactly what you are looking for |
19:18.55 | annma | 4th action in the right click |
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19:19.19 | logixoul | annma: 4th one is "compress" here |
19:19.41 | annma | ;) |
19:19.47 | annma | depends on what stuff you have as addons |
19:19.51 | annma | but you get the idea |
19:20.10 | logixoul | oh, right, this probably needs kuick_plugin |
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19:20.49 | annma | logixoul: you don't have copy in right menu? |
19:21.08 | logixoul | annma: nope, not when using the gwenview kpart |
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19:23.26 | logixoul | annma: i do have "Copy Image" in the "embeddable image viewer" kpart |
19:23.41 | annma | he said in konq |
19:24.23 | logixoul | well that's in konq |
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19:24.36 | mariux | i thought copy image copied the image |
19:24.41 | mariux | not the url |
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19:24.46 | mariux | does it copy both? |
19:24.49 | logixoul | mariux: afaics it copies both |
19:24.51 | DaSkreech | Can I tell Konqueror what an album is? |
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19:24.57 | annma | mariux: do you have copy? |
19:25.04 | mariux | not just copy no |
19:25.05 | logixoul | DaSkreech: use infolist view |
19:25.08 | DaSkreech | for the audioCd:/ slave |
19:25.13 | annma | I htink it's pretty basic vanilla kde stuff |
19:25.23 | mariux | i am running vanilly kde |
19:25.24 | mariux | *a |
19:26.43 | DaSkreech | logixoul: in audiocd:/ ? |
19:27.09 | logixoul | DaSkreech: it should work for any folder that has tagged audio files in it |
19:27.22 | logixoul | DaSkreech: gives you an "album" column |
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19:28.12 | DaSkreech | logixoul: I'm trying to rip the album but neither amarok nor konqueror will pick up the album info |
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19:28.27 | DaSkreech | I'd rather not rip track X then rename all of them |
19:28.43 | Renze | oh, you mean the cddb lookup isn't working? |
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19:29.11 | jq | alindeman: ping? |
19:29.15 | logixoul | DaSkreech: you mean the ripped files have empty album tags? |
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19:29.28 | DaSkreech | Renze: Right |
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19:29.38 | Renze | DaSkreech: you should have said that in the first place ;) |
19:30.09 | DaSkreech | I thought I did :) |
19:30.10 | logixoul | DaSkreech: fwiw i've always used kaudiocreator for ripping |
19:30.19 | padde | wtf? kcalc doesn't calculate anymore |
19:30.35 | Renze | DaSkreech: kaudiocreator allows you to enter the album info, and to submit it to the cddb |
19:30.48 | padde | can anybody be too stupid to use a calculator (as in... could it be a user error?) |
19:31.29 | DaSkreech | Renze: Where? |
19:31.33 | DaSkreech | I edited it |
19:31.40 | logixoul | padde: pls describe the problem in detail |
19:31.41 | DaSkreech | Where is the resubmit? |
19:31.49 | DaSkreech | Wait not submit. Query |
19:32.11 | padde | logixoul: i open kcalc, enter a number, and as soon as i press any operation (like /, *, + or -), the display will immediately show 0 |
19:32.13 | Simkin | i'm trying to install quadkonsole from source and i'mg etting this error, anyone know how to resolve it? |
19:32.13 | Simkin | checking for KDE... configure: error: |
19:32.13 | Simkin | in the prefix, you've chosen, are no KDE headers installed. This will fail. |
19:32.21 | Renze | DaSkreech: sorry, I don't have any audio cd's handy to allow me to get to that dialog |
19:32.43 | DaSkreech | Renze: Where are you? |
19:32.56 | logixoul | Simkin: distro/os? |
19:32.57 | Renze | Simkin: you're either providing the wrong prefix, or you don't have the dev packages installed |
19:33.03 | Simkin | running gentoo |
19:33.15 | Renze | DaSkreech: at home, but all my audiocds are packed in a box and in storage since I don't use them |
19:33.33 | Renze | Simkin: then use ./configure --prefix=`kde-config --prefix` |
19:33.44 | DaSkreech | or logixoul :) |
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19:34.13 | Renze | DaSkreech: they're in the bottom box of a large and heavy stack, so the only words that pop into my head are "get bent" :D |
19:34.24 | DaSkreech | Not a bad album |
19:34.26 | padde | logixoul: logixoulby the way, it works perfectly with any other base than dec. with base hex, oct and bin it calculates as it should calculate |
19:36.37 | Simkin | Renze: thanks! |
19:36.46 | logixoul | padde: no idea what's happening, check bugs.kde.org for relevant reports |
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19:36.52 | Renze | Simkin: no problem |
19:37.19 | DaSkreech | logixoul: Want to give me an idea where that button is? |
19:37.55 | Renze | DaSkreech: the submission might be automatic, depending on your settings |
19:38.18 | DaSkreech | Renze: I don't want to submit I know the album is there I just want to query |
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19:38.49 | Renze | DaSkreech: check the menu for "CDDB Lookup" |
19:39.06 | padde | logixoul: it's this problem: http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=139342 |
19:39.06 | DaSkreech | Yeah. It's there I have put in partial info. :) |
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19:41.06 | DaSkreech | >_< |
19:43.21 | logixoul | padde: ok, you can vote for it. i can't help you. |
19:43.49 | padde | logixoul: umm yes... will do (although I have no big hopes...) |
19:44.35 | logixoul | of course you have the option of hunting down the bug yourself ;) |
19:45.01 | logixoul | DaSkreech: what button were you looking for again? |
19:45.43 | DaSkreech | The requery button for CDDB |
19:45.53 | DaSkreech | I don't think it does what I want it to do |
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19:46.51 | Renze | DaSkreech: software isn't there to do what you want it to... it's there to do what it's supposed to do ;) |
19:47.14 | DaSkreech | Well it's not even doing that |
19:47.17 | padde | logixoul: no time :( why do you think i need a calculator... for fun? ;) |
19:47.40 | Renze | padde: try abakus or speedcrunch |
19:47.43 | logixoul | i know, mentioned it just in case ;) |
19:47.52 | logixoul | yes, abakus rules |
19:47.54 | bma_ | google calc ftw ^.^ |
19:47.56 | bma_ | and hi :) |
19:48.05 | Renze | or the Run Command dialog |
19:48.18 | padde | i already switched to xcalc in the meantime ;) |
19:48.18 | DaSkreech | Go katapult :) |
19:48.19 | logixoul | (only integer and no constants) |
19:48.22 | neighborlee | how do I ( kde 3.5) set mimetypes..I did: insert audioCD >popped up what do you want to do: only options for open in new window and do nothing..NOT what I want ;)..sooooo I did: configure > tried add, but ic no way to create a new launcher of my choice for when I insert audio cd..can someoen assist ?? ;)) |
19:48.23 | padde | but looks SO UGLY |
19:48.42 | logixoul | DaSkreech: alt+space would be language switching here ;) |
19:49.09 | padde | logixoul: so you're also using skim? |
19:49.19 | logixoul | padde: nope, why? |
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19:49.29 | Renze | neighborlee: kcontrol -> peripherals -> storage media (it is nothing to do with mimetypes) |
19:49.38 | padde | logixoul: ok, thought so... because there ALT-Space is also default for switching the input language... |
19:50.01 | logixoul | padde: ah, ok |
19:50.05 | neighborlee | Renze: alright thx..I went there cause thats what the pop up from insert of audio cd gave me ;00 |
19:50.08 | neighborlee | checking/thx ;) |
19:50.10 | padde | logixoul: and it seems this is connected with the calculator problem, and you said for you kcalc works, which would imply the problem is somewhere else, or version dependent, ... |
19:50.53 | logixoul | padde: yep, for now just use abakus |
19:51.09 | neighborlee | Renze: yes,,this area you just told me about is exactly the area im given to goto from popup displayed after insert of audiocd in kde 3.5 |
19:51.25 | Renze | neighborlee: what do you want to add for audiocds? |
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19:51.38 | neighborlee | Renze: lsongs |
19:51.49 | Renze | neighborlee: I have no idea what that is |
19:51.59 | neighborlee | or cdplayer is fine as well |
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19:52.09 | Renze | neighborlee: click add |
19:52.11 | logixoul | Renze: linspire's itunes clone |
19:52.13 | neighborlee | lsongs is freespires default audiocd player/ripper/etc. ;) |
19:52.17 | Renze | logixoul: ew |
19:52.25 | logixoul | ew indeed |
19:52.29 | neighborlee | Renze: did that ,,not working right or im missing something |
19:52.39 | padde | <PROTECTED> |
19:52.43 | Renze | neighborlee: then select audio cd from the list and click the right arrow |
19:52.55 | neighborlee | Renze: did that too |
19:52.59 | Renze | neighborlee: then put in the command line for lsongs down the bottom |
19:53.19 | padde | lol, it's always like that! whenever a tool, which I used because I was used to that kind of tool from windows breaks on linux, I find something that was there for years, and is much better :) |
19:53.19 | Renze | neighborlee: then give it an icon and a description up the top |
19:53.26 | neighborlee | wait right arrow ?? |
19:53.36 | Renze | neighborlee: the two arrows in the middle of the window |
19:53.38 | neighborlee | i have no right arrow after choosing audio cd |
19:53.46 | Renze | neighborlee: I do |
19:54.04 | neighborlee | I have: open in new window and do nothing |
19:54.15 | Renze | neighborlee: Audio CD needs to be listed in Display service for: |
19:54.23 | Renze | neighborlee: I mean in the Add window |
19:54.24 | neighborlee | checking |
19:54.31 | neighborlee | oh ok |
19:54.35 | Renze | yeesh... I told you to click Add |
19:54.41 | Renze | can you follow directions or not? |
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19:54.50 | neighborlee | no you said choose audio cd then click right arrow |
19:54.53 | neighborlee | anyway ;)jeeesh |
19:55.00 | Renze | neighborlee: AFTER I said click Add |
19:55.14 | neighborlee | 2] <Renze> neighborlee: then select audio cd from the list and click the right arrow |
19:55.30 | Renze | <Renze> neighborlee: click add |
19:55.36 | Renze | that line was first |
19:55.40 | Renze | pay attention |
19:55.45 | neighborlee | oh wait ok sorry I s ee 'click ad d' further up |
19:55.46 | s4br3 | Hi, any Qt-based applications I run get "polka bar" discolorations after a while, like ten minutes using the computer. |
19:56.00 | neighborlee | I was trying to do this while reading directions and clearly I misseed one message from you |
19:56.02 | neighborlee | OH well ;) |
19:56.05 | Renze | s4br3: video driver flaw |
19:56.27 | s4br3 | I switched from the i810 to vesa, but it did not help |
19:57.39 | s4br3 | It affects KDE itself, most KDE apps and Qt3 Assistant which is the only pure Qt3 app i know of |
19:57.40 | neighborlee | Renze: kewl ok I got it that time thx.teh right click part confused me for some reason go fig..thx for da help ;0\ |
19:57.50 | Renze | neighborlee: no problem |
19:58.16 | s4br3 | I can send screenshot if anyone needs to see what i mean |
19:58.20 | logixoul | yes |
19:58.53 | s4br3 | logixoul: Did you answer me? |
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19:59.12 | logixoul | s4br3: yes, a screenshot would be helpful |
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20:00.37 | s4br3 | I'm trying to send it to you now |
20:00.44 | Renze | use imageshack.us |
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20:00.50 | Renze | so more than one person can see it |
20:01.03 | s4br3 | Renze: what is that? |
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20:01.10 | Renze | s4br3: an image hosting site |
20:01.12 | logixoul | http://imageshack.us |
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20:01.32 | s4br3 | but I need to register? |
20:01.36 | Renze | no |
20:01.36 | logixoul | no |
20:01.39 | Renze | it's free |
20:01.59 | logixoul | as in beer :) |
20:02.11 | Renze | why do people ask so many questions instead of just finding out for themselves? ;) |
20:02.16 | s4br3 | :) ok, then I'll try it!!! |
20:02.49 | Renze | mmmmm... beer... |
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20:03.03 | annma | lol |
20:03.03 | Renze | the resetter of connections... |
20:03.06 | siamba | no more beer! |
20:03.12 | annma | Renze: let's go to the pub |
20:03.34 | Renze | annma: ok... it's a bit early here (9:02am) but what the hell |
20:03.43 | annma | lol |
20:03.50 | annma | ;) |
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20:05.02 | s4br3 | http://img72.imageshack.us/my.php?image=polkastripes2007011001yh6.jpg |
20:05.48 | logixoul | hmmmm |
20:05.54 | Renze | s4br3: ah, that's not the same as what I got... I think that's due to how Qt was compiled |
20:06.17 | s4br3 | http://img72.imageshack.us/my.php?image=polkastripes2007011001yh6.jpg |
20:06.27 | Renze | yes, you pasted that already |
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20:06.44 | s4br3 | http://img231.imageshack.us/my.php?image=polkastripes2007011002ke7.jpg |
20:06.47 | s4br3 | sorry |
20:07.07 | s4br3 | This all from debian etch + latest Testing |
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20:07.34 | Renze | s4br3: have you asked in #debian if this is a known problem? |
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20:07.47 | s4br3 | Yes, for days |
20:07.53 | LXRoX | hi all |
20:07.59 | Renze | s4br3: let me guess... they blamed us? |
20:08.05 | LXRoX | hi Renze |
20:08.09 | s4br3 | But, the people who would know are there too rarely |
20:08.30 | Renze | wouldn't surprise me from what I've heard about that channel ;) |
20:09.29 | Renze | I remember that glitch popping up years ago, and a solution for same, but I can't remember what it was... it involved rebuilding |
20:09.51 | s4br3 | No, they are VERY helpful! But this one was only a few who had a clue |
20:10.02 | LXRoX | wookay |
20:10.09 | LXRoX | so , what about the CES ? |
20:10.39 | s4br3 | CES? |
20:10.48 | Renze | ? |
20:10.49 | PhilRod | s4br3: you could try asking in #qt too. Someone there might have an idea |
20:11.43 | s4br3 | I've tried xorg, but it is so poorly populated. Didn't find any #qt so far. What server? |
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20:11.59 | LXRoX | Consumer Electronisc shwo |
20:12.04 | LXRoX | show , las vegas |
20:12.25 | s4br3 | PS3 Mekka? |
20:12.51 | PhilRod | s4br3: there are other servers?! |
20:13.03 | s4br3 | PhilRod: I'm a tart |
20:13.29 | PhilRod | s4br3: also, I guess you could try a different graphics driver if one is available for your card. That might tell you if the problem is related to the graphics driver |
20:13.38 | s4br3 | Renze: (I asked LXRox if CES was PS3 Mecka) |
20:13.55 | Renze | s4br3: ah, I have that idiot on permanent ignore ;) |
20:14.04 | logixoul | you know you're on #kde when... people say "Mekka" without flinching ;) |
20:14.05 | LXRoX | ohh |
20:14.09 | s4br3 | PhilRod: I've tried both i810 and vesa |
20:14.18 | LXRoX | well,I shall to the same for the useless dumb |
20:14.21 | DaSkreech | Is there a shortcut key to jump between the terminal and kate's edit pane? |
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20:15.21 | DaSkreech | Mekka |
20:15.48 | LXRoX | Consumer Electronics Show 2007 |
20:15.50 | LXRoX | CES |
20:15.53 | LXRoX | :() |
20:16.17 | s4br3 | DaSkreech: Don't run mc and expect it work with Kate... |
20:16.27 | logixoul | DaSkreech: there's one to toggle the terminal |
20:16.29 | LXRoX | many vendors their displaying new hw,all around basically multimedia home pc hub ,hdtv and mobilityas usual |
20:16.42 | DaSkreech | logixoul: does it toggle and jump me to it? |
20:16.50 | DaSkreech | That would be acceptable as well :) |
20:16.51 | logixoul | DaSkreech: dunno, try |
20:16.53 | LXRoX | the spot I liked is the one of a hw vendor that does good harfdware bot h for Windows and Linux |
20:16.56 | LXRoX | Hauppage |
20:17.48 | DaSkreech | logixoul: I don't see one in the shotcuts dialog |
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20:18.52 | logixoul | DaSkreech: do a search for "term" |
20:19.06 | logixoul | DaSkreech: it's called "Show Terminal", under the "Kate" tree |
20:19.23 | logixoul | bbl |
20:19.29 | LXRoX | they displayed their new HDTV card model : the WinTV HVR1500 supportig the PCI-Express interface |
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20:19.52 | LXRoX | as usual ,it will have both drviers for Windows and Linux , good news as always with Hauppage |
20:20.24 | DaSkreech | logixoul: It does! Sweet. I never noticed that search in the dialog before |
20:20.46 | logixoul | lol |
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21:02.50 | laz0r | hi, is there a way to delete network folders that i created in remote:/ ? |
21:03.20 | laz0r | and would it be possible to tell kde to use sftp:// instead of fish:// when creating a ssh remote folder? |
21:04.09 | Renze | laz0r: have a look in ~/.kde/share/apps/remoteview/ |
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21:04.53 | laz0r | Renze: ah, thank you, that seems to solve both of my problems |
21:05.01 | Renze | no problem |
21:06.38 | Morbo | For mounted removable media, how do I make the icon on the desktop show the disc's name instead of cdromX? |
21:07.21 | Renze | Morbo: if the disc has a name, it should show it. it does here. |
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21:09.50 | qupada | Morbo: if you're seeing the name of the device nodes, it's likely hal and or dbus aren't running properly |
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21:12.16 | Morbo | OK, thanks. I'll check that out |
21:13.53 | logixoul | can i make the taskbar 1 row only (on a high kicker)? |
21:14.12 | logixoul | iirc that was default in 3.4 |
21:14.48 | Renze | the only way to make the taskbar 1 row is to reduce the size of kicker |
21:14.49 | qupada | logixoul: if you have another panel item to put underneath it you can |
21:15.05 | Sho_ | logixoul: You can change the size hints in kickerrc to make the buttons higher, iirc |
21:15.27 | Sho_ | logixoul: And no, 3.4 had a two-row taskar by default too |
21:15.46 | logixoul | qupada: you mean by stacking 2 panels, one of them containing the taskbar? |
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21:16.46 | logixoul | Sho_: ok, experimenting with kickerrc now |
21:17.02 | qupada | logixoul: yeah. that's what i did last time, i just remembered |
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21:18.51 | qupada | two 24px kickers. if you still wanted some things taking up the whole 48px height, you could make the 24px panels 90% of the length, and one 48px, 10% wide one for the clock and other things at one end |
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21:20.13 | rohan | how do i configure my special laptop keys in kde ? |
21:20.17 | logixoul | Sho_: WidthForHeightHint? it was =62, i tried with =1000 and =1, and no apparent difference |
21:20.19 | rohan | like the volume up and such |
21:20.38 | logixoul | rohan: kcontrol->regional&accessibility->keyboard shortcuts |
21:20.43 | qupada | rohan: would help if you told us what brand of laptop you had |
21:20.54 | rohan | acer travel mate 3260 |
21:21.00 | logixoul | rohan: and input actions |
21:21.03 | rohan | i am using kde 3.5.5 on frugalware |
21:21.03 | Renze | rohan: make sure you have the right keyboard model selected in kcontrol -> regional & accessibility -> keyboard layout |
21:21.23 | logixoul | Sho_: any idea what else to change? |
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21:21.27 | rohan | that applet has configurations for laptop keyboards too, Renze ? |
21:21.45 | Renze | rohan: that kcontrol module lists everything that xkb supports |
21:21.56 | rohan | ok |
21:22.05 | Sho_ | logixoul: Nope, sorry, never really made the attempt myself - I actually use a "Small" Kicker by default, which is one-row thus |
21:22.08 | qupada | rohan: i mention it because some laptops need extra kernel drivers and their own daemon to handle multimedia keys |
21:22.27 | rohan | qupada: i did find something called acerhk .. but it is completely unmaintained |
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21:22.41 | holycow | hi guys |
21:22.48 | holycow | what is the proper name for kde objects? |
21:22.55 | Renze | perforated bovine! |
21:23.03 | Renze | kde objects? |
21:23.05 | holycow | the thing about kde where all apps share all objects ... kobjects or whatever? damn i forgot the name! |
21:23.09 | holycow | hi Renze :) |
21:23.10 | Renze | kparts |
21:23.11 | Sho_ | holycow: Kparts |
21:23.15 | holycow | kparts! thank you! |
21:23.20 | Sho_ | yer welcome :) |
21:23.31 | holycow | yeah was telling a friend about kde and kde4, qt4 and gpl and such :) thank you |
21:24.15 | logixoul | Sho_: k, i just hoped to make it large enough for dad to see easily and still not confuse him with rows :) |
21:24.19 | Renze | to err is human, to moo bovine |
21:24.27 | logixoul | lol |
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21:25.01 | holycow | Renze, rofl |
21:25.15 | holycow | thats brillinat :) i'm putting that on a tshirt |
21:25.15 | holycow | hehe |
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21:26.09 | logixoul | qupada: well, no, it'd make the taskbar buttons just 24px high, i want them to span the whole height, but thanks anyway |
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21:27.25 | qupada | logixoul: oh, i see. you want one row of 48px buttons? |
21:28.05 | logixoul | qupada: yep, or more than 48px |
21:28.40 | logixoul | ah, there was an alternative taskbar applet at kde-apps. "taskbar2"? trying it now. |
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21:41.42 | canllaith | logixoul: what exactly are you trying to do with kicker? |
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21:42.15 | canllaith | Most of the features from taskbar v2 were actually implemented in kicker for 3.5 |
21:42.53 | qupada | canllaith: he wants a 48px high panel where the taskbar doesn't split the buttons onto two rows, but makes the buttons the whole 48px high as well |
21:43.01 | logixoul | correct |
21:43.01 | canllaith | That can certainly be done |
21:43.15 | canllaith | This might help: http://canllaith.org/?page_id=15 |
21:43.31 | canllaith | but in short, in ktaskbarrc set MinimumButtonHeight to 48 |
21:44.31 | logixoul | great, that's it. i was looking in kickerrc until now. |
21:44.35 | logixoul | thx. |
21:44.40 | canllaith | yw |
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21:45.48 | andresmujica | anyone can help me with a dcop shell |
21:45.52 | andresmujica | question |
21:46.05 | logixoul | sure, ask |
21:47.15 | andresmujica | thanks |
21:47.30 | andresmujica | i'm trying to use this dcop kaddressbook AddressBookServiceIface importVCard file:///tmp/vcard.vcf |
21:47.42 | andresmujica | to import a vcard from the shell |
21:47.47 | andresmujica | but it doesn't seems to work |
21:47.53 | andresmujica | it show nothing... |
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21:48.20 | andresmujica | if i replace file:///tmp/vcard.vcf with anything else... for example whatever |
21:48.38 | andresmujica | it shows nothing also.. so i want to debug the line so i can find the problem |
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21:51.10 | logixoul | one thing you could do it change the kabc source to output to stderr on this dcop call |
21:52.42 | logixoul | also look through http://bugs.kde.org/simple_search.cgi?id=importvcard |
21:52.46 | andresmujica | hmm how can do that?? |
21:52.59 | logixoul | are you a coder? |
21:53.07 | andresmujica | not really... :( |
21:53.22 | logixoul | i suggest you ask at #kde-devel |
21:53.33 | andresmujica | i'll try that thanks |
21:53.40 | logixoul | you're welcome |
21:53.52 | andresmujica | and check the bugs... |
21:53.54 | andresmujica | thanks a lot |
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22:01.36 | mattjeet | hey KDE ppl! |
22:02.25 | mattjeet | i've got what's probably a simple question |
22:02.25 | mattjeet | famous last words lol |
22:02.26 | mattjeet | is there any way to get KDE su box to work for an entire login session? |
22:02.36 | Faust-C | mattjeet: login as root ? |
22:02.55 | mattjeet | Faust-C: haha, sure. is that the only way? |
22:03.24 | Faust-C | well what are you trying to do exactly |
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22:05.12 | mattjeet | Faust-C: just for constantly tweaking configs and it gets tiresome to always enter it during a session for various apps that require root access |
22:05.34 | mattjeet | Faust-C: i select the "remember' option but i think that's either just for that app or just for that instance or something |
22:05.36 | mattjeet | not sure |
22:05.41 | Faust-C | why no just edit the configs manually |
22:05.51 | Faust-C | vim is the key lol |
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22:06.13 | mattjeet | they're mostly QT apps |
22:06.14 | mattjeet | lol |
22:06.18 | mattjeet | and i'm doing QA |
22:07.19 | Faust-C | ? |
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22:09.19 | mattjeet | ahh, kdesu konq seems to be mostly what i need |
22:10.06 | Faust-C | so just keep konquer up as root |
22:10.19 | Faust-C | kdesu -c konq |
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22:12.22 | Faust-C | boo |
22:12.22 | TheGateKeeper | hi folks |
22:12.33 | Faust-C | hello |
22:13.07 | TheGateKeeper | where is the setting that lets me move to the next virtual desktop by moving the mouse to the edge of the screen? |
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22:13.31 | Faust-C | in the control panel or config desktop |
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22:13.34 | TheGateKeeper | hiya Faust-C :-) |
22:13.54 | qupada | TheGateKeeper: kcontrol, desktop > window behaviour > advanced |
22:13.58 | qupada | called 'active desktop borders' |
22:14.33 | S0NiC | gn8 jungs |
22:15.06 | Faust-C | TheGateKeeper: sup |
22:15.17 | mattjeet | ohhh, awesome, i was going to ask that to TheGateKeeper! woo |
22:15.23 | mattjeet | thx qupada |
22:15.46 | TheGateKeeper | qupada: thanx found it :-) |
22:16.05 | TheGateKeeper | Faust-C: doing ok, and you? |
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22:16.38 | Faust-C | TheGateKeeper: wishing irssi had a better /list cmd |
22:16.49 | TheGateKeeper | I didn't know kde could do that till the other day, nice feature :-) |
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22:17.07 | TheGateKeeper | Faust-C: what you looking for? |
22:17.22 | Faust-C | well in irssi if you do /list |
22:17.34 | Faust-C | you get all the channels w/o the option to actually look thru tehm kik |
22:18.24 | mattjeet | ok 1 more question, where do i set the keyboard shortcuts for switching desktops? |
22:18.24 | qupada | TheGateKeeper: i like the feature, i however have an input device that is incapable of going past the edges of the screen. The default setup for my wacom graphics tablet is such that it's impossible to hit the edge of the screen, the cursor stops in the 0th column which isn't enough to trigger the desktop switch |
22:18.28 | Faust-C | mattjeet: in the control center |
22:18.49 | TheGateKeeper | qupada: woow that got to be really annoying |
22:18.55 | Faust-C | anyone here use basket-notes |
22:19.01 | mattjeet | Faust-C: yah, i'm in there under Desktop->Multiple Desktops and Window Behavior but i don't see it |
22:19.09 | Faust-C | mattjeet: not under that |
22:19.17 | mattjeet | oh |
22:19.18 | mattjeet | lol |
22:19.31 | qupada | TheGateKeeper: not really. i have winkey-tab for desktop switching |
22:19.38 | Faust-C | mattjeet: regional and accessability |
22:19.50 | qupada | mattjeet: advanced tab in window behaviour, "active desktop borders" |
22:20.00 | TheGateKeeper | mattjeet: there is a switch on 'Active Desktop Borders' |
22:20.02 | Faust-C | qupada: no hes asking about keyboard shortcuts |
22:20.04 | mattjeet | qupada: yah, for moving with the mouse. just turned it on |
22:20.08 | mattjeet | Faust-C: found it! thanks :) |
22:20.12 | Faust-C | np |
22:20.14 | Faust-C | anyone here use basket-notes |
22:20.54 | mattjeet | ohhh, i see the prob. pcbsd associates the win key with the start button so it's not getting to win+tab or something |
22:21.10 | mattjeet | any of you guys going to be at SCALE in Los Angeles? |
22:21.12 | qupada | Faust-C: yeah, doesn't work so well with this damn dialup connection though |
22:21.20 | mattjeet | at the KDE booth |
22:21.33 | Renze | mattjeet: you going to pay my airfare from New Zealand? ;) |
22:21.49 | TheGateKeeper | Faust-C: use that for work, friend in spain I want to her to install it, but so far she hasn't :-( |
22:22.01 | mattjeet | Renze: lmfao no, isn't that what your foundation is for? :P |
22:22.08 | Faust-C | man |
22:22.14 | Faust-C | im so tired of typing |
22:22.14 | Renze | mattjeet: I'm just a user ;) |
22:23.09 | TheGateKeeper | first came accross this method of switching virtual desktop in e17 |
22:23.27 | Renze | TheGateKeeper: it's been in KDE for as long as I can remember |
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22:23.57 | TheGateKeeper | Renze: problem is I only just found that out :P |
22:24.13 | TheGateKeeper | ohh well you live & you learn |
22:24.27 | Renze | TheGateKeeper: you're not an explorer, obviously. ;) I always go through every page in kcontrol to see what stuff does :D |
22:24.57 | TheGateKeeper | I am sure someone gave me some bullshit that kde could not do it, don't exactly remember |
22:25.13 | Renze | TheGateKeeper: never believe what anybody tells you... find out for yourself :D |
22:25.27 | Faust-C | man kDE is one of the most advanced DE's |
22:26.06 | TheGateKeeper | Renze: must confess I don't to mess around, upside is I am less prone to knackering my system |
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22:26.22 | Renze | TheGateKeeper: you learn from the knackering :D |
22:26.28 | TheGateKeeper | Renze: yeah :-) good advise |
22:26.43 | TheGateKeeper | brb |
22:27.21 | Faust-C | anyone know if there is a basket notes channel |
22:30.47 | TheGateKeeper | ok guys thanx for ALL your help :-) |
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22:35.45 | Faust-C | man /list crashed kopete |
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22:46.06 | Faust-C | is anyone here |
22:46.10 | tbscope | Does anyone know how to increase the amount of urls in the history list on the location toolbar? |
22:46.24 | tbscope | in konqueror |
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22:47.09 | KRF | tbscope, in the settings |
22:47.11 | KRF | :/ |
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22:47.17 | mattjeet | ok thanks a ton for the answers! cya guys |
22:47.20 | mattjeet | KDE rocks! |
22:47.21 | mattjeet | <3 |
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22:47.54 | tbscope | KRF: Where in the settings please? |
22:48.23 | KRF | tbscope, settings -> history |
22:49.13 | tbscope | KRF: There's no such thing |
22:49.52 | KRF | tbscope, it's the 10th icon on the left side |
22:49.55 | KRF | ;) |
22:50.50 | Jucato | (Settings -> Configure Konqueror -> History) |
22:51.05 | tbscope | Ahh: but that's the sidebar. Note that I'm talking about the toolbar ;-) |
22:51.32 | KRF | hm? |
22:51.56 | KRF | you mean where you type google.de and so on |
22:52.02 | tbscope | yes |
22:52.13 | KRF | that setting is for that i think |
22:52.21 | tbscope | no |
22:52.33 | KRF | what kde-version do you have? |
22:52.38 | tbscope | latest |
22:52.42 | KRF | mh |
22:53.18 | tbscope | KRF: The problem is, in the settings I have 500 urls to keep in the history. This works for the history sidebar. But the history list in the location toolbar only remembers about 20 |
22:53.37 | KRF | not for me |
22:54.01 | KRF | i have 5000 there and it really remembers nearly everything i've ever typed |
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22:55.14 | KRF | http://krf.ath.cx/~krf/tmp/konq.jpg |
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22:56.13 | tbscope | Well, yes, that setting works ok for the sidebar, but it doesn't increase the history on the toolbar |
22:57.20 | KRF | weird |
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22:58.48 | tbscope | Well, it might be something different. It's when I click that list that I only see the last 20. |
22:58.55 | tbscope | So, never mind :) |
22:59.41 | KRF | http://krf.ath.cx/~krf/tmp/konq1.jpg <- you mean THAT list? :/ |
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23:00.31 | tbscope | yes, and it seems you have more than 20 items in that list |
23:00.48 | KRF | yes. i have :/ |
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23:20.29 | animimotus | hi |
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23:20.43 | Laban | Hello |
23:21.13 | animimotus | someone known where I could desable caps transformation for the first letters in titles ? |
23:21.24 | animimotus | in Amarok |
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