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| 00:15.31 | darkcmd | Is it possible to get the old KDE Crystal themes, and use them on KDE 3.5? |
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| 00:18.19 | Zero_Kelvin | Hiyo. Got a question about patches. I download a .patch file from KDE-Apps and I've never used patches before. It opened with Kompare and I can see the changes it will make, but I suspect I have to compile something. How would I go about compiling this - http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=47354 (a single stop-reload button) - into KDE? |
| 00:18.47 | Zero_Kelvin | Debian unstable system by the way. |
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| 00:21.41 | JamesB192 | './configure', 'make' and 'make install' in the top level directory should do it. You might want to add arguments though. |
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| 00:23.46 | Zero_Kelvin | JamesB192: It's for KDE-Base though, specifically konq_mainwindow.cc and konq_mainwindow.h. I don't really want to run a whole compile on KDE-Base, so is it possible to just compile konq_mainwindow.cc? |
| 00:23.58 | smileaf | Zero_Kelvin: download the source tarball.. and run patch -p1 < /path/to/patch inside the extracted source directory. |
| 00:24.20 | smileaf | Zero_Kelvin: I think all you have to recompile is whats in the konqueror directory. |
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| 00:25.49 | Jucato | smileaf: I think you'd be interested to know that Kubuntu will probably be implementing a similar patch in their next release :) |
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| 00:26.03 | smileaf | fun. |
| 00:26.29 | smileaf | I wouldn't mind it if they used my patch at all =) |
| 00:26.57 | smileaf | tho if they can do it in a better way.. such as with a plugin that'd be even cooler. |
| 00:27.01 | Jucato | smileaf: that I'm not sure... I don't know if they used your patch. Anthony Mercante (Tonio_) is the one doing it |
| 00:28.30 | jordo23 | Jucato: I finally got konq 32 and flash working on a kubuntu 64 bit system....only took 7 hrs... |
| 00:28.38 | smileaf | out of curiousity where did you find this out Jucato? |
| 00:28.53 | Jucato | jordo23: congratulations :) |
| 00:29.09 | Jucato | smileaf: let me see if the page is still up. |
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| 00:29.17 | jordo23 | Jucato: Yeah! Now onto java |
| 00:29.24 | Jucato | smileaf: well, I found out because I'm using Kubuntu :P |
| 00:29.37 | smileaf | jordo23: java has 64bit builds. |
| 00:29.46 | jordo23 | smileaf: Which java? |
| 00:29.50 | smileaf | sun |
| 00:30.26 | Zero_Kelvin | Hmm. I don't want to screw around with anything at the moment - just installed Debian yesterday afternoon and got everything customised - so I won't do it right now I think. :) I was hoping there was a way of applying a "binary" patch (sorta compile just that file and dump the results where they're supposed to go), but thanks for the help guys. Cya's later. |
| 00:30.58 | jordo23 | Jucato: Does Kubuntu have 64 bit java packages? |
| 00:31.11 | smileaf | /usr/portage/distfiles/jdk-1_5_0_08-dlj-linux-amd64.bin |
| 00:31.14 | Jucato | jordo23: not sure. better ask in #kubuntu |
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| 00:32.17 | Jucato | smileaf: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyFawn/Herd1/Kubuntu?highlight=%28herd1%29#head-42774b37fe5ad0f9e9286c507aed65c21a90bc83 |
| 00:33.15 | Jucato | smileaf: I'll try digging up more details |
| 00:34.59 | zce | is it possible to easily add an emoticon to kopete? or use multiple emoticon packs |
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| 00:35.55 | oneforall | hi again with kword. if I bring in a picture and want to write over it how do i do that ? |
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| 00:36.48 | Kyral | ..is Konq crashing for anyone else when visiting www.apple.com? |
| 00:36.48 | Jucato | oneforall: btw, you might want to ask in #koffice as well, if you don't get an answer here |
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| 00:37.58 | smileaf | Kyral: seems to work fine here |
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| 00:38.16 | oneforall | ok hanks |
| 00:38.45 | Kyral | this is odd... |
| 00:38.53 | Kyral | it crashes and a file winds up on desktop? |
| 00:41.49 | smileaf | Kyral: it crashed when I closed it tho =) |
| 00:42.32 | Kyral | lol |
| 00:44.12 | JamesB192 | crashed on closing for me too, and it complained earlier in that session about a missing plugin for iphone? |
| 00:45.25 | smileaf | "No plugin found to handle this resource (http://www.apple.com/iphone/)" |
| 00:46.23 | Jucato | heh |
| 00:46.49 | JamesB192 | Yes, that was it. |
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| 00:51.11 | JamesB192 | I think it might want a recent copy of quicktime. |
| 00:51.34 | smileaf | maybe, it is trying to use xine here. |
| 00:51.35 | Renze | no crashes here |
| 00:51.41 | Renze | played the video fine |
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| 01:06.52 | znugbv | anybody use Konsole, sessions and "Window specific settings"? Is there a bug that seriously effects your window settings? If I launch a profile, everything seems remembered. If I launch a session everything is seriously botched. I cannot effect the size, position, etc no matter what I do. Anyone familiar with this? |
| 01:08.29 | znugbv | I don't see anywhere in the world how a session overrides the size, position, I can not find this anywhere :( |
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| 01:19.37 | znugbv | wow this sucks. konsole is great but it's screwing my session position and size, etc. seriously, why in the world would konsole turn and snap on me like this? I think I am a nice guy. I say: konsole --profile=pleasedontresizeorreposition and konsole at first blinks like it did it but resizes back to it's evil spawn :( |
| 01:20.55 | znugbv | Anybody know why this is happening? it doesn't happen when I launch a profile. It only happens when I launch a session :( |
| 01:24.48 | Theory | Can anyone recommend a method of transfering calendar information from a local file resource to a kmail-imap-groupware resource? |
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| 01:40.10 | rworloma | hi |
| 01:40.19 | bonbonthejon | hi |
| 01:40.44 | rworloma | are you the only one in here? |
| 01:41.48 | Renze | kids these days... all they want is instant gratification |
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| 01:42.33 | qupada | lol |
| 01:42.42 | Jucato | instant noodles |
| 01:43.00 | qupada | they aren't instant |
| 01:43.03 | qupada | take 2-3 minutes |
| 01:43.34 | qupada | neither are instant cameras. damn polaroid bs still takes 30-90 seconds to 'develop' |
| 01:43.56 | qupada | lies! all of it |
| 01:44.18 | qupada | for anyone who missed it too, the guy who invented instant noodles died a week ago; on the 5th |
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| 01:45.48 | Jucato | yeah |
| 01:46.00 | qupada | http://search.japantimes.co.jp/cgi-bin/nn20070107a2.html |
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| 01:47.28 | Renze | 96 years old... I wonder if he ever ate his own product ;) |
| 01:48.03 | qupada | yeah, that was the direction most of the comment on /. was going... it was the "are instant noodles really not as bad for us as they claim" thing |
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| 01:55.12 | znugbv | really... I am having a crisis here... Applying window/application specific settings do not work with Konsole and sessions... if it does, I have a bug the size of wisconsin... I think I searched the bugs at kde *but* konsole is perfect which means it could be my mistake is half the size of texas... Help! |
| 01:56.41 | qupada | znugbv: you're trying to get it to remember size/position, right? |
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| 01:57.39 | qupada | because my console remembers size via the 'shell' profile, so is always the same at startup, position tends to be a result of the smart window placement more than anything |
| 01:58.04 | znugbv | qupada: yes! Although those are set right with a regular profile launch (Shell), it does in no way get applied to my sessions... At first, it looks like it gets applied *but* almost immediately, it goes to a smaller size in a wack position :( |
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| 01:58.44 | qupada | so it appears where and how big it should, then moves and resizes as soon as kwin realises? |
| 02:00.08 | znugbv | well, when I set a window size and position and it works. I never see a resize and a move take place. the app will just know and shows up perfectly... in the case with konsole and my sessions, it shows up where it is supposed to be *but* then resizes and repositions right in front of me... it is extremely frustrating :( |
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| 02:02.05 | qupada | well that's just odd |
| 02:02.12 | znugbv | /home/vbgunz/.kde/share/apps/konsole/profiles ... I dug into my profiles and removed all width and height options but that didn't do anything... I don't know what is happening :( |
| 02:02.33 | qupada | could it be there are multiple entries in the window/app specific settings competing for it? |
| 02:02.42 | znugbv | it happens with brand new profiles too... this is becoming a huge pain the arse of men! |
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| 02:02.54 | qupada | if you open control centre, desktop, window specific settings |
| 02:03.03 | qupada | then just empty out everything |
| 02:03.06 | znugbv | even with just a single entry, the results are now the same |
| 02:03.30 | znugbv | I even had a look into kwinrulesrc and saw nothing fishy :( |
| 02:04.43 | qupada | could it be something your distro has done to kwin that you don't know about? |
| 02:04.54 | qupada | what distro do you have, anyway? |
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| 02:06.35 | znugbv | Kubuntu... this was working fine before... I changed drivers today from nv to nvidia... I tried beryl-manager today... *but* I switched back to nv, and am not using beryl-manager... maybe something messed it up :( |
| 02:08.33 | qupada | well if you right click a window's titlebar and can select advanced>window specific settings, then kwin is running, even if you have aquamarine to imitate kwin when using beryl, the advanced menu disappears |
| 02:09.30 | znugbv | thanks for the tip. kwin is running :) |
| 02:10.16 | qupada | i would suggest clearing the window/app specific settings list from kcontrol, restarting kde and trying again |
| 02:11.26 | znugbv | I fear doing that, been customizing KDE to my liking for a while now... I have many apps and windows in there set just right and they're all fine... Konsole is fine too as long as I don't launch a profile :( |
| 02:11.36 | qupada | just out of interest, why are you disabling nvidia's accelerated drivers when you're not using beryl? apart from a few 2d applications where they lag a little, there really is no point in changing it |
| 02:11.40 | znugbv | a session I mean |
| 02:12.08 | qupada | ok, then just remove anything konsole-specific |
| 02:12.10 | znugbv | oh I disabled it because I thought nvidia caused the problem |
| 02:12.48 | qupada | shouldn't be. about the only problem i've ever had that relates to nvidia's driver is with fonts, and that's easy enough to fix |
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| 02:13.44 | znugbv | I noticed that |
| 02:14.46 | qupada | other than that, you will notice in heavy-duty 2d apps (kstars is a good example), nv is faster, i don't know exactly why that is |
| 02:15.16 | znugbv | I notice nvidia is faster at flash too |
| 02:15.52 | qupada | i try and avoid flash stuff unless entirely necessary |
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| 02:17.15 | znugbv | I wish it never was, unfortunately today a necessary evil indeed |
| 02:19.44 | AssociateX | Hello people |
| 02:20.21 | AssociateX | why are some .desktop files in /usr/share/applications/ picked up by kappfinder but not others? |
| 02:21.35 | AssociateX | what file/dir are the menu entries saved? |
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| 02:26.33 | Larius | i once saw a cascading menu filesystem browser in kde a few years back using peanut linux. can anyone refer me to how that can be done or enabled? |
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| 02:27.24 | Renze | Larius: right click panel, add applet, select quick file browser from the list |
| 02:29.47 | AssociateX | I did a "cp /usr/share/applications/ut2004-crossfire-ut2004-crossfire.desktop /usr/kde/3.5/share/apps/kappfinder/apps/Games/" but kappfinder still didn't see it. Anyone know why? |
| 02:30.48 | Renze | AssociateX: if there is a .desktop file in /usr/share/applications, KDE will already pick it up... no need for an entry in kappfinder |
| 02:31.43 | AssociateX | Renze, any idea why not all my ut2004-*.desktop files in /usr/share/application/ are not being picked up? |
| 02:31.55 | AssociateX | just some are |
| 02:32.07 | Renze | AssociateX: have you run kbuildsycoca since installing them? |
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| 02:32.23 | Larius | Renze, thanx much. that is almost exactly what i was looking for, with one exception. can i add it to my "K menu"? |
| 02:32.24 | Renze | AssociateX: it could be that they are incomplete or flawed .desktop files, too |
| 02:32.24 | AssociateX | not on purpose, lol |
| 02:32.34 | AssociateX | I'll try it now though |
| 02:33.00 | AssociateX | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:33.00 | Renze | Larius: right click, configure panel, menus page, tick "quick browser" |
| 02:33.07 | Renze | AssociateX: always as user |
| 02:33.19 | AssociateX | ok |
| 02:33.22 | AssociateX | thanks a ton |
| 02:34.35 | Larius | Renze, thx again |
| 02:34.42 | Renze | Larius: no problem |
| 02:36.23 | bonbonthejon | what ftp client do people use? |
| 02:36.48 | qupada | bonbonthejon: ftp:// in konqueror |
| 02:37.20 | AssociateX | kio (KSycoca): ERROR: No database available! <---- that doesn't look good |
| 02:37.31 | bonbonthejon | qupada: i tried that, but my schools proxy lists the site |
| 02:37.49 | Renze | AssociateX: that's normal, ignore it |
| 02:38.04 | qupada | bonbonthejon: bloody squid eh? my university did that too. there's probably nothing you can do |
| 02:38.20 | bonbonthejon | qupada: bordermanager, but yeah, i'm trying kbear |
| 02:38.32 | Renze | kbear is awful, and you will get the same result |
| 02:38.58 | AssociateX | Renze, ok, well I ran kbuildsycoca but that didn't seem to help kappfinder and nothing new showed up in my Kmenu |
| 02:39.07 | AssociateX | anything else I need to do |
| 02:39.07 | AssociateX | ? |
| 02:39.09 | Renze | AssociateX: then I guess the .desktop files are malformed |
| 02:39.15 | qupada | bonbonthejon: you could always try tor, the 'torify' command along with whatever ftp app might work |
| 02:39.16 | AssociateX | crud |
| 02:39.32 | bonbonthejon | qupada: thanks |
| 02:40.07 | Renze | AssociateX: kbuildsycoca will not affect kappfinder at all. |
| 02:43.58 | AssociateX | what was the kbuildsycoca suggestion for then so I know |
| 02:44.26 | Renze | AssociateX: to update your kmenu with the .desktop files in /usr/share/applications |
| 02:44.42 | Renze | kappfinder is pretty much standalone |
| 02:44.58 | AssociateX | Renze, ah, ok, cool |
| 02:46.43 | AssociateX | I have 5 ut2004 entries that show up in my menu but 11 ut2004*.desktop files in /usr/share/applications/. I'll try to compare some of the ones that work against the ones that don't |
| 02:46.49 | AssociateX | thanks for all the tips |
| 02:48.21 | qupada | sure, if it makes you feel better |
| 02:48.28 | Renze | it doesn't |
| 02:48.35 | Renze | I'm still uncomfortably hot |
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| 02:52.00 | qupada | why not go out, hire a rotary hoe, use it and the garden hose to turn your lawn into a mud pool, then wallow in it |
| 02:52.32 | andrewd18 | I have a quick, somewhat arbitrary question... what's the executable file/script for KDE's "Run Command..." that's in the K Menu? |
| 02:52.54 | Renze | qupada: because this is a rental property, and I'd get in really big trouble :D |
| 02:53.11 | Renze | andrewd18: it isn't an executable |
| 02:53.11 | andrewd18 | Like, if for some really stupid reason, I wanted to start the "Run Command..." dialog box from a command line. :P |
| 02:53.25 | AssociateX | I compared two ut2004 desktop files, one that added on it's own and one that didn't. Both look almost exactly the same with the only differences being the app name and exec that is called |
| 02:53.25 | Renze | dcop kdesktop KDesktopIface popupExecuteCommand |
| 02:53.30 | AssociateX | double crud |
| 02:53.48 | Renze | AssociateX: it won't be added if the exec doesn't exist, I think |
| 02:53.57 | AssociateX | it's there |
| 02:54.02 | andrewd18 | Renze: Thanks! |
| 02:54.09 | Renze | andrewd18: no problem |
| 02:57.58 | AssociateX | Renze, http://pastebin.ca/313800 |
| 02:58.24 | Renze | AssociateX: sorry, I'm heading away from the PC for a while... need to catch up on sleep I didn't get last night because of the heat |
| 02:58.33 | AssociateX | ok |
| 02:58.36 | AssociateX | np, thanks |
| 02:59.23 | AssociateX | anyone else, could you tell me what the problem is here: http://pastebin.ca/313800 |
| 02:59.36 | qupada | AssociateX: heh, i remember unwheel, they were trying to add vehicles to ut2003 in the beginning |
| 02:59.40 | AssociateX | one adds to the kmenu the other does not |
| 03:00.13 | qupada | well there is no reason only one of those should work |
| 03:00.15 | AssociateX | qupada, yeah, I didn't know that. My son likes the game |
| 03:00.45 | AssociateX | qupada, ok, well that stinks. |
| 03:00.55 | qupada | i played with that mod way back (probably in 2003, given the circumstances), it was very very very unstable |
| 03:00.56 | andrewd18 | AssociateX: I agree with qupada... both look fine to me. |
| 03:01.29 | AssociateX | I wish I could just point KDE Menu Editor at the *.desktop file and have it add it. |
| 03:01.50 | qupada | AssociateX: in my /usr/share/applications/, there are no files with spaces in their filenames, is that the case for you too? |
| 03:01.57 | qupada | (grabbing at straws here) |
| 03:02.02 | AssociateX | Let me check |
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| 03:03.15 | AssociateX | qupada, it does not look like at least any of the ut2004*.desktop files have any spaces |
| 03:04.33 | AssociateX | well, I'm going to check the gentoo forums to see if anyone else has had this problem. |
| 03:04.50 | qupada | AssociateX: well if you run 'kbuildsyscoca --help', you will see "--nocheckfiles Disable checking files (dangerous)" |
| 03:05.00 | qupada | now you're entirely on your own if you try that and it breaks something |
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| 03:05.04 | AssociateX | I was hoping for a fast answer here but looks like I might have to dig for it |
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| 03:05.08 | qupada | but bear in mind you may have a last resort available |
| 03:05.34 | AssociateX | qupada, I'll look at it |
| 03:07.00 | AssociateX | mmmmm, (dangerous), that kind of sounds like a good way to start the weekend |
| 03:07.03 | AssociateX | hehe |
| 03:07.22 | qupada | yeah, touché |
| 03:08.08 | AssociateX | that didn't seem to do anything good or bad |
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| 03:08.36 | AssociateX | haha, that was an accident |
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| 03:19.07 | LiquidNerd__ | AssociateX: lol.. that was priceless.. "that didn't seem to do anything good or bad" *quits* |
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| 03:21.34 | syd67ro | I want to run 2 kterminals. one as a regular user and one as root. in the one as root, I want to type the root password only once, and then, at each ctrl-shift-n, I want a new root prompt, without typing the pass again? How do I do that? |
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| 03:21.54 | qupada | k menu, run command, 'kdesu konqueror' |
| 03:22.12 | qupada | in theory |
| 03:22.21 | qupada | wait, konsole |
| 03:23.19 | syd67ro | yes, that's it. thanks. I had konsole --type su, but it wasnt what I was looking for |
| 03:24.05 | AssociateX | LiquidNerd__, yeah, I hit the close button on the xchat, #kde was the only one that I closed. |
| 03:24.08 | AssociateX | oh well |
| 03:24.14 | AssociateX | that was funny |
| 03:25.20 | LiquidNerd__ | the timing made it perfect |
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| 03:49.58 | e1 | hello, i tried to use thunderbird awhile ago, and now some emails i had before in my regular email account is only viewable in thunderbird, how do i fix this so i can see my mail in my regular account |
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| 03:54.23 | Renze | thunderbird is not a KDE app and will not be supported here |
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| 04:12.32 | AssociateX | I have found nothing on the forums |
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| 04:22.11 | AssociateX | some of the apps in /usr/share/applications/ do not show up in my kmenu but the *.desktop files look good. http://pastebin.ca/313800 |
| 04:22.23 | AssociateX | I did that just to put it in my buffer |
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| 04:41.35 | troy | canllaith: ping |
| 04:44.20 | AssociateX | funny, kbuildsycoca --menutest shows the apps that I want to have added to the kmenu but they just aren't being added |
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| 04:47.21 | stdin | AssociateX: have you tried logging out and back in? |
| 04:47.33 | AssociateX | yes |
| 04:47.41 | AssociateX | I even rebooted |
| 04:48.07 | stdin | ahh, was just asking because that normally works for me |
| 04:48.48 | AssociateX | thnak |
| 04:48.51 | AssociateX | thanks |
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| 05:11.19 | Dhraakellian | kcontrol is in kdebase, right? |
| 05:11.23 | Dhraakellian | or is it in kdelibs? |
| 05:11.26 | Jucato | kdebase |
| 05:11.51 | Dhraakellian | as are kcmshell style, colors, etc too, I would guess |
| 05:12.19 | Jucato | I think so |
| 05:12.57 | Jucato | yes, they seem to be in kdebase/kcontrol/ |
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| 05:14.49 | Jucato | :) |
| 05:17.08 | canllaith | I should probably install KDE onto this thing |
| 05:17.44 | patson | if you want to stay on the channel, I suggest it. |
| 05:17.50 | canllaith | orly? :) |
| 05:17.57 | patson | yarly :) |
| 05:18.03 | *** mode/#kde [+o canllaith] by ChanServ |
| 05:18.13 | Jucato | heh... telling that to an op and KDE dev.. |
| 05:18.13 | Jucato | :) |
| 05:18.24 | patson | hehe |
| 05:18.46 | patson | bash-worthy? |
| 05:18.58 | Jucato | canllaith: you and annma should really wear your op hats on a lot :P |
| 05:19.12 | canllaith | The general idea is for us to lurk undetected. |
| 05:19.27 | Jucato | yeah.. it's also fun :) |
| 05:19.34 | canllaith | although I find being +o more often than not avoids the 'zomg ur a gurl?!?!?!?!?!oneoneone' idiots |
| 05:19.37 | patson | that's liable to spark humour like the one just witnessed |
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| 05:20.05 | patson | ..resisting.. ..resisting... |
| 05:20.08 | patson | ...can't..! |
| 05:20.10 | patson | canllaith: zomg ur a gurl?! |
| 05:20.21 | Renze | patson: masochist? ;) |
| 05:20.25 | Jucato | someone lacks discipline :) |
| 05:20.30 | canllaith | Could you possibly stuff him into a blender or something for me? =) |
| 05:20.40 | patson | actually I'm OD'd on caffeine at the moment |
| 05:20.40 | Renze | canllaith: how about a belt sander from the feet up? |
| 05:20.44 | patson | and bored :) |
| 05:20.44 | canllaith | whoah |
| 05:20.51 | canllaith | 3.5.2 is the latest verion of KDE here? Surely not. |
| 05:20.56 | Jucato | what the fsck?!? canllaith is a girl, a KDE dev, and a #kde op!?!? what is this world coming to!!! |
| 05:21.00 | Jucato | :P |
| 05:21.01 | canllaith | Maybe I should compile it. |
| 05:21.13 | Jucato | canllaith: define "here"? |
| 05:21.26 | canllaith | I'm on ubuntu dapper. In the base repositories. |
| 05:21.38 | patson | why dapper? |
| 05:21.48 | Jucato | canllaith: lol no wonder :) |
| 05:21.56 | patson | I was under the impression it was marked "deprecated" |
| 05:21.58 | Jucato | yeah, 3.5.2 is the default that comes with Dapper |
| 05:22.06 | canllaith | dapper is 'long term support' so no, not in the least |
| 05:22.07 | Jucato | patson: Dapper is LTS (Long Term Support) |
| 05:22.16 | Jucato | and was only released June 2006 |
| 05:22.21 | patson | ah |
| 05:22.31 | canllaith | edgy is quite the bleeding edge, and they also managed to break suspen and hibernate for my laptop. |
| 05:22.43 | canllaith | So I'll stick with dapper until fiesty comes out and see if fiesty fixes that problem. |
| 05:22.47 | patson | haven't touched ubuntu since I discovered the development toolchain was broken somehow |
| 05:22.47 | Jucato | canllaith: I thought they focused on that in Edgy? |
| 05:22.47 | AssociateX | kbuildsycoca --menutest shows the apps that I want to have added to the kmenu but they just aren't being added |
| 05:23.32 | canllaith | Jucato: It's a complicated issue. Some laptops have improved support, some it's ended up worse. |
| 05:23.37 | patson | canllaith: have you encountered problems with GCC there? I had programs compiled with it randomly just stop executing |
| 05:23.44 | patson | not segfaulting, they just... froze |
| 05:23.47 | Jucato | it's always a complicated issue... |
| 05:23.51 | canllaith | No, I wasn't running it long enough to encounter that. |
| 05:24.01 | canllaith | Jucato: I do make life hard on myself by using about the least linux compatible laptop possible. |
| 05:24.27 | AssociateX | plus I'm getting a ton of errors that look like this: kbuildsycoca: WARNING: '/usr/kde/3.5/share/applications/kde/ark.desktop' specifies undefined mimetype/servicetype 'application/x-tbz2' |
| 05:24.38 | Renze | AssociateX: you can safely ignore warnings |
| 05:24.45 | Jucato | canllaith: as I am making my life hard on myself as well :) |
| 05:24.51 | Jucato | we all have our oddities :) |
| 05:25.03 | Jucato | it just so happens that Renze is the oddest of us all :P |
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| 05:25.11 | Renze | don't I know it |
| 05:25.14 | canllaith | Hrm. So I wonder if I want to use KDE 3.5.2, or if I want to compile 3.5 branch myself. |
| 05:25.35 | Jucato | canllaith: or you can upgrade to 3.5.5 using Kubuntu's packages... |
| 05:25.45 | Jucato | http://www.kubuntu.org |
| 05:25.54 | Jucato | look for the announcement about KDE 3.5.5 packages |
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| 05:25.59 | canllaith | okies |
| 05:26.53 | patson | hmm I should probably write some games for KDE 4 when it comes out. something simple, arcadey.. like.. invaders? missile command? |
| 05:27.06 | canllaith | space invaders would make me your new best friend. |
| 05:27.22 | Renze | that's what xmame is for |
| 05:27.39 | patson | :) |
| 05:28.15 | patson | it's not really that hard a project.. but I'd rather wait for KDE 4 to get released at least as RC1 before starting it.. |
| 05:28.41 | canllaith | aw except now I'm not pulling it off citylink at ~1MB a second. |
| 05:28.56 | patson | I'm writing games in java for now, using custom native libs for graphics stuff |
| 05:28.57 | canllaith | However it is KDE 3.5.5. Thanks Jucato :) |
| 05:29.45 | Jucato | canllaith: no problem :) |
| 05:30.13 | canllaith | I don't have one. They're too expensive to ship to NZ. |
| 05:30.19 | canllaith | I have some shirts and a mug, but the mug is MINE MINE MINE. |
| 05:30.23 | Jucato | hehe |
| 05:30.37 | canllaith | I had a really nice sticker but it was on my laptop when it got stolen, and I had a lovely pin but it got lost *sniff* |
| 05:30.37 | Jucato | weren't you hugging a big big Konqi doll before? |
| 05:30.51 | canllaith | Yeah, it wasn't mine :) Valle just let me hug it for the picture. |
| 05:31.16 | Jucato | aw.. :( |
| 05:31.26 | canllaith | Hrm. What to have for dinner.... |
| 05:31.37 | Jucato | the KDE promotions/marketing team should have at least some konqi toys :P |
| 05:31.49 | canllaith | Dunno what that has to do with me :)O |
| 05:32.06 | Jucato | :P |
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| 05:46.29 | canllaith | Hrm. Will the kubuntu-default-settings I'm getting right now look like dapper or edgy? |
| 05:46.35 | canllaith | I guess I'll find out when it installs, but I kinda like the purple :) |
| 05:46.50 | Jucato | um nope. looks like dapper |
| 05:46.58 | canllaith | Are you running edgy ? |
| 05:47.08 | Jucato | right now? I'm running CLI :) |
| 05:47.12 | Jucato | but yes, Edgy :P |
| 05:47.23 | canllaith | I might download the deb and pick it apart |
| 05:47.29 | Jucato | heh yeah :) |
| 05:47.47 | Jucato | purple color scheme courtesy of Kenneth Wimer (kwwii) |
| 05:47.57 | canllaith | He's cool. |
| 05:48.37 | Jucato | very :) |
| 05:48.39 | canllaith | How on earth have I managed to lose my glasses without actually realising that I'd taken them off? |
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| 06:40.16 | jnmbk | is there a kde or qt parameter to open a window in fullscreen mode? |
| 06:41.02 | Jucato | Ctrl+Shift+F? |
| 06:41.26 | stdin | depends what you set the shortcut keys to |
| 06:41.33 | Jucato | window menu/Alt+F3 -> Advanced -> fullscreen? |
| 06:41.40 | Jucato | well, it's the defalt |
| 06:42.17 | aseigo | kstart --fullscreen appname |
| 06:42.23 | Jucato | oh :) |
| 06:43.03 | jnmbk | :) thanks aseigo |
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| 06:43.51 | aseigo | and of course you can set a policy for that window or app via kwin ... right click on the window title, advanced, special window settings, geometry, fullscreen |
| 06:43.56 | aseigo | then it always opens fullscreen |
| 06:44.04 | aseigo | i think that covers all 4 ways that i'm aware of |
| 06:44.08 | bluelightning | I guess kstart is also the answer to whoever was asking how to start an app on a specific desktop the other day |
| 06:44.27 | bluelightning | I did a google search at the time and came up empty handed |
| 06:44.52 | Jucato | kstart, or window-specific rules/special window settings |
| 06:45.05 | aseigo | kstart is a many splendoured thing |
| 06:45.19 | bluelightning | aseigo: indeed, I just checked out kstart --help |
| 06:45.56 | Jucato | kstart is not a well known app, but very nice :) |
| 06:49.15 | Jucato | how much slower and bigger (build directory) is a KDE system compiled with --enable-debug=full than --enable-debug=yes? |
| 06:50.12 | Renze | 57 grams |
| 06:50.28 | Jucato | Renze: I didn't ask "heavier" :P |
| 06:50.44 | Renze | two weeks? |
| 06:50.58 | Jucato | "longer"? |
| 06:51.10 | Renze | yellow? |
| 06:51.25 | Jucato | sane? |
| 06:51.44 | Renze | not for a long time |
| 06:51.58 | Jucato | :) |
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| 06:53.04 | Jucato | *you* have a *brain*?? :O |
| 06:53.43 | Jucato | aaaaaah |
| 06:54.10 | Jucato | canllaith: took the .deb apart? :) |
| 06:54.17 | canllaith | Yup :) |
| 06:54.28 | Jucato | hehe I did that too :) |
| 06:54.50 | Jucato | just don't install it, or else you'll get the hidden / folders too :P |
| 06:54.56 | aseigo | canllaith: stickin' with the dapper? =) |
| 06:55.11 | aseigo | Jucato: just rm the /.hidden |
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| 06:55.23 | Jucato | aseigo: heh yeah :) |
| 06:55.39 | Jucato | aseigo: um... you have any idea about my question earlier? :) |
| 06:55.48 | aseigo | i wasn't here earlier =) |
| 06:56.00 | Jucato | how much slower and bigger (build directory) is a KDE system compiled with --enable-debug=full than --enable-debug=yes? |
| 06:56.49 | aseigo | not enough to matter if you're running a devel system |
| 06:57.11 | Jucato | 1.5GHz w/ 1GB RAM? |
| 06:57.17 | aseigo | plenty |
| 06:57.24 | Jucato | ooh nice :) |
| 06:57.34 | Jucato | thanks :) |
| 06:58.15 | canllaith | aseigo: suspend/hibernate works for me in dapper and it's horribly broken not just for me but my entire LUG in edgy. |
| 06:58.46 | aseigo | works as poorly here as it did in dapper |
| 06:58.46 | aseigo | =P |
| 06:58.54 | Jucato | hahah :) |
| 06:59.59 | canllaith | although I can't say I'm very impressed with any linux distributions right now. |
| 07:00.08 | canllaith | dapper has it's own set of problems, they're just slightly more palatable than those in edgy. |
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| 07:11.53 | petryk | hello |
| 07:12.23 | petryk | is possible via dcop open konqueror window's? |
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| 07:16.34 | Linux_Galore | petryk: yep |
| 07:16.45 | Linux_Galore | petryk: why you would bother beats me |
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| 07:17.19 | Linux_Galore | petryk: you need a running session though |
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| 07:17.57 | petryk | Linux_Galore: yes , What I do it , when I have running session? |
| 07:18.09 | deb_noob | are there any kde tv applications? |
| 07:18.19 | aseigo | kdetv |
| 07:18.26 | deb_noob | sweet, thanks |
| 07:18.28 | aseigo | and no, i'm not being funny =) |
| 07:18.29 | petryk | Linux_Galore: I know what check , if konqueror was run ... |
| 07:18.46 | aseigo | deb_noob: go look apps.kde.org .. it's also in the deb repos |
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| 07:19.04 | aseigo | deb_noob: and there is at least one or two apps specifically for managing t.v. listings |
| 07:19.28 | deb_noob | aseigo: what distro do you run? |
| 07:19.46 | petryk | deb_noob: I use tvtime .. it is good ... |
| 07:20.37 | aseigo | deb_noob: kubuntu mostly these days |
| 07:20.46 | aseigo | i have a suse box around |
| 07:21.17 | Jucato | (big boost to Kubu :P ) |
| 07:22.11 | deb_noob | okay, trying to run kdetv and i get this error... |
| 07:22.12 | deb_noob | Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server |
| 07:22.12 | deb_noob | Xlib: Invalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 key |
| 07:22.12 | deb_noob | kdetv: cannot connect to X server :0.0 |
| 07:22.24 | Renze | don |
| 07:22.25 | Renze | whoops |
| 07:22.33 | Renze | don't run it as root |
| 07:22.48 | petryk | deb_noob: You don't run it unter root |
| 07:22.52 | Linux_Galore | petryk: http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-dcop/?ca=dgr-kdeml01KDEDCOP |
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| 07:23.16 | petryk | Linux_Galore: thx |
| 07:23.19 | Linux_Galore | petryk: problem with konqueror is it changes its session number under dcop |
| 07:23.43 | Linux_Galore | petryk: so you have to queery dcop with dcop konq* |
| 07:23.54 | petryk | Linux_Galore: I should get it form "ps -x" listing |
| 07:24.13 | Linux_Galore | petryk: no just dcop konq* |
| 07:24.13 | petryk | Linux_Galore: get first session , and open new window unter it :) |
| 07:24.42 | Linux_Galore | petryk: type it you will see what I mean |
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| 07:25.32 | deb_noob | is it possible to always display tabs in kopete? |
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| 07:26.55 | Linux_Galore | petryk: kdcop will show you what command is needed anyway |
| 07:28.07 | petryk | Linux_Galore: i see |
| 07:28.18 | petryk | Linux_Galore: I use dcop in konsole .... |
| 07:28.26 | deb_noob | how do i rescan channels in kdetv? |
| 07:28.56 | Linux_Galore | petryk: yep |
| 07:29.31 | petryk | Linux_Galore: i will now make script for automatic open new konqueorr windows via dcop |
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| 07:31.01 | deb_noob | what encoding should i use for kdetv in the united states basic cable? |
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| 07:34.19 | Linux_Galore | deb_noob: ?? kdetv is just a front end for a tv card, its really depends on the card |
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| 07:43.49 | Starchaser | good day |
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| 07:45.34 | Starchaser | where can I download gtk-qt-engine? google does not helps =( |
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| 07:51.43 | stdin | Starchaser: kde-apps.org iirc |
| 07:52.02 | stdin | Starchaser: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=20067 |
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| 07:58.01 | Linux_Galore | Starchaser: if you distro is half way decent the qt/gtk thing should be on its repository |
| 08:00.16 | benJIman | gtk-qt-engine is rather problematic though |
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| 08:00.44 | benJIman | For one it's exceptionally slow, it also completely breaks keyboard navigation of GTK apps, and triggers memory leak with swt apps etc |
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| 08:05.00 | Starchaser | Linux_Galore: I use slackware |
| 08:05.22 | Starchaser | what's meant iirc? |
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| 08:15.34 | jordo23 | When I download some files, they automatically open in Kate.....how do I change this? |
| 08:16.56 | jordo23 | They are usually binary files and it warns me if I save them they will result in corrupt files... |
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| 08:29.24 | grepper | jordo23: shift click or r-click and save as ? |
| 08:30.28 | jordo23 | grepper: I'll try that.... |
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| 08:33.15 | stdin | Starchaser: oh, it means: if I recall correctly |
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| 08:41.16 | Starchaser | stdin: thnx ) |
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| 08:49.57 | Linux_Galore | jordo23: the long term fix is to change the file associations in konqueror |
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| 08:57.37 | jordo23 | Why is it that everytime I use ark to unzip an archive I get errors......the uncompressed files seem to be alright.....but there is always error warnings.... |
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| 09:01.22 | logixoul | hi, is this backtrace useful? http://cut.and.paste.org/index.php?id=280 |
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| 09:12.57 | logixoul | never mind |
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| 09:18.58 | aditsu | hi, what is that kde program that lets you press a shortcut key and then finds programs as you type and shows their names and icons? |
| 09:19.39 | aseigo | aditsu: katapult |
| 09:19.48 | aditsu | ahh!! yes |
| 09:19.54 | aditsu | I totally forgot |
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| 09:21.55 | aditsu | aseigo: does it come with kde? (which package?) or is it a 3rd party tool? |
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| 09:42.45 | qwertz | Hi, (kde 3.5.5) when I open an ISO8859-1 coded file in kate german umlauts are show as a ? even if I change the settings in kate to open the file as iso8859-1. Any ideas what could go wron? |
| 09:46.06 | logixoul | qwertz: i've had a similar problem. iirc i tried all 5 western and 4 unicode encodings and one of them worked, for some reason. |
| 09:46.57 | logixoul | qwertz: also, try changing the encoding from Tools->Encoding after you've opened the file as utf8 |
| 09:47.59 | logixoul | qwertz: i think the problem may have to do with the writing application failing to write correctly a magic number, or something. |
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| 09:51.35 | qwertz | logixoul, thanks for the hints will try it |
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| 10:04.14 | XVampireX | thiago or aseigo, some time ago we were talking about how kde doesn't allow shortcuts to be modifier only keys, but I'm wondering why gnome allows it...? |
| 10:04.21 | blshkv | guys, where can I see 3.5.6 release progress status? |
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| 10:04.51 | XVampireX | blshkv: Probably in SVN commits |
| 10:04.57 | XVampireX | or something like that |
| 10:05.11 | blshkv | XVampireX hm.. but it's only sources over there isn't it? |
| 10:05.36 | blshkv | XVampireX it shoud be mailing list for developers or something?.. |
| 10:06.24 | XVampireX | commits tell you what got changed, most of the time it's developer code but sometimes you can understand what they are talking about :P |
| 10:06.40 | XVampireX | But I really don't know myself I'm not following KDE new features |
| 10:06.47 | XVampireX | But it's true, they should make roadmaps somewhere |
| 10:07.08 | blshkv | XVampireX hm. ok. Thank you. |
| 10:07.30 | blshkv | XVampireX I found https://mail.kde.org/mailman/private/kde-devel/ :) |
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| 10:08.14 | XVampireX | I don't like mailing lists, hard to manage threads I think |
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| 10:17.25 | annma | hi all! |
| 10:17.35 | XVampireX | Hey :P |
| 10:17.58 | Jucato | hi annma!!! |
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| 10:18.50 | Mathman | hi guys. anyone know how to get the weather applet to do fahrenheit? |
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| 10:20.05 | annma | Mathman: is your KDE set to Farenheit? |
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| 10:22.51 | Mathman | hmm. so I assume somewhere in the control center thing I'd find that. probably all the hints I need. thanks |
| 10:24.02 | annma | lol |
| 10:24.06 | annma | hi Jucato |
| 10:24.09 | annma | how are you? |
| 10:24.17 | annma | 3.5 branch finished? |
| 10:24.40 | annma | Mathman: it'll set Fatrenheit globally |
| 10:24.40 | Jucato | annma: I'm doing it all over again... started around 8 hours ago... |
| 10:24.47 | annma | oh |
| 10:24.58 | annma | because of Qt? |
| 10:25.02 | Jucato | still not done... because it's taking sometime to download kdebase from svn.. don't know why... |
| 10:25.26 | Jucato | annma: yep... some problem I'm encountering in building koffice, specifically, krita |
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| 10:26.20 | Jucato | so this is attempt #2... if it doesn't work this weekend, I'll have to give it up (work needs to be done...) |
| 10:26.23 | annma | KOffice needs lots of dependencies |
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| 10:26.45 | annma | I had trouble with it myself quite often |
| 10:26.57 | Jucato | annma: most specifically, problems with the ksnapshot widget of krita... |
| 10:27.03 | annma | Jucato: ask in #koffice for any error you cannot solve |
| 10:27.09 | annma | oh |
| 10:27.12 | Jucato | the good news is that it seems that the openGL errors were resolved :) |
| 10:27.18 | annma | :) cool |
| 10:27.29 | annma | I had them when I installed this laptop |
| 10:27.42 | annma | I also had to install lots of devel packages |
| 10:27.45 | Jucato | oh, how was your re-build, btw? |
| 10:28.20 | annma | it all works! |
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| 10:28.31 | annma | it's a huge speed difference |
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| 10:28.47 | annma | before that, my system was very slow |
| 10:29.15 | Mathman | so anyone know how to start kde under Xephyr? I'm doing like the kde website says, but Xephyr tells me connection refused or whatever |
| 10:29.15 | Jucato | heh same here when I first started kdebase yesterday. :) |
| 10:29.39 | annma | ;) |
| 10:30.04 | Jucato | but that was with --enable-debug=yes only... now I'm going for --enable-debug=full :O |
| 10:30.05 | annma | I thought it was some graphic lib the culprit but a guy at my LUG said it was Xorg |
| 10:30.17 | annma | full is better |
| 10:30.26 | Jucato | so I've heard :) |
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| 10:31.35 | Jucato | Mathman: first: "Xephyr :1 &" then "export DISPLAY=:1" then "startkde" the last 2 commands should be done as the kde-devel user (or whatever you called it) |
| 10:32.26 | Mathman | Jucato: yep. did that. I get connection refused. |
| 10:32.35 | Jucato | hm... strange... |
| 10:33.02 | Mathman | perhaps because I'm logged in as a different user and merely su'd to kdedev? |
| 10:33.25 | Jucato | annma: you are how many hours +UTC again? |
| 10:33.48 | Jucato | Mathman: hm.. doesn't matter. but fwiw, I run the Xephyr command as my regular/main user, then the 2 commands as the kdedev user |
| 10:34.21 | annma | 1 i think Jucato |
| 10:34.28 | annma | I am as Paris |
| 10:34.42 | Jucato | hm.. that would make you -7 from me... 11:30 am? |
| 10:34.46 | annma | I have a Montreal clock on my kicker |
| 10:34.52 | annma | I should add one for you |
| 10:34.54 | Mathman | Jucato: well, guess that's worth a shot |
| 10:35.01 | annma | yes Jucato |
| 10:35.05 | annma | 11.34 |
| 10:35.27 | Jucato | annma: hehe in my previous system, which I nuked a few days ago, I had something like those multiple clocks in hotels on an extra panel |
| 10:35.57 | Jucato | I had (U.S.) PST, MST, CST, EST, then UTC, Berlin, and Sydney |
| 10:35.58 | annma | ;) |
| 10:36.02 | annma | cool |
| 10:36.22 | Jucato | Berlin and Paris are on the same timezone, I think... |
| 10:36.31 | annma | yes |
| 10:36.33 | Mathman | nah, doesn't help. maybe I need to tell it to listen on a tcp ip port or something? |
| 10:36.37 | annma | my daughter is in Germany |
| 10:36.42 | annma | for a holiday |
| 10:36.45 | Jucato | oooh |
| 10:36.51 | annma | (one of my daughters) |
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| 10:37.06 | Mathman | hmm. it already is. scratch that idea. |
| 10:37.20 | Jucato | Mathman: what distro? maybe your distro's channel could be of more help, as it seems to be something more related to X than to KDE |
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| 10:37.37 | Mathman | yeah. true. mandriva by the way |
| 10:38.58 | annma | :) me too |
| 10:39.28 | annma | I tried compiz and could not connect |
| 10:39.43 | annma | but I guess it is because I try compiz on my own KDE |
| 10:39.46 | Jucato | annma: have you tried Xephyr on 'driva? |
| 10:39.53 | annma | no |
| 10:40.02 | annma | what is Zephyr? |
| 10:40.11 | Jucato | it's an Xnest alternative |
| 10:40.27 | Jucato | danimo says it's better than Xnest |
| 10:40.46 | Jucato | "Xephyr is an advanced nested X server. It is similar to Xnest but it supports modern extensions such as Render, RandR, and Composite." |
| 10:41.05 | Jucato | basically running a nested X session |
| 10:41.13 | annma | no more mess with X for a while |
| 10:41.17 | Jucato | lol :) |
| 10:41.20 | annma | ;) |
| 10:41.23 | Jucato | my "trauma" is with Qt... |
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| 10:41.31 | annma | I need to be productive |
| 10:41.42 | XVampireX | pyQT sucks |
| 10:41.43 | annma | I ordered 2 Qt4 devel books |
| 10:41.46 | Jucato | I'm going to try to build Kopete and Krita immediately after kdebase... those were the 2 problematic ones... |
| 10:41.54 | Jucato | annma: ok, I'm dying of jealousy again.. |
| 10:42.12 | annma | I got Xmas money from family-in-law |
| 10:42.19 | annma | you have to marry Jucato |
| 10:42.30 | Jucato | heh money isn't the problem actually... |
| 10:42.38 | annma | shipping is? |
| 10:42.39 | Jucato | it's the means of buying the books... |
| 10:42.48 | annma | I used Amazon |
| 10:42.55 | Jucato | my mom doesn't trusts online transactions at all... |
| 10:42.59 | annma | they have second hand ones |
| 10:43.01 | annma | ah |
| 10:43.13 | annma | yes I understand |
| 10:43.22 | Jucato | my only hope is to ask my relatives in the U.S. if they could buy it for me... |
| 10:43.39 | annma | yes |
| 10:43.57 | Jucato | the problem with that will be when the books would arrive :) |
| 10:44.16 | annma | they cannot ship them? too expensive? |
| 10:44.19 | Jucato | if they decide to ship it together with a box full of other stuff (they usually send us some annually), it would take at least 2-3 months |
| 10:44.28 | annma | ah |
| 10:44.58 | annma | :( |
| 10:45.16 | Jucato | (btw, you'd probably find it amusing that the KDE 2.0 Development book is still for sale here in one bookstore, for around US$ 20...) |
| 10:46.04 | annma | lol |
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| 10:46.15 | annma | I bought it when I started programming |
| 10:46.21 | annma | it was good |
| 10:46.33 | Jucato | someone needs to make a new one for KDE 3 or 4 :) |
| 10:46.35 | annma | I prefer having a book than looking stuff online |
| 10:46.41 | annma | yes |
| 10:46.41 | Jucato | ditto :) |
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| 10:47.09 | Q-collective | Jucato: no, making a programming book on kde3 is a little late now :p |
| 10:47.20 | Jucato | but I also like to have some PDF or HTML versions of docs so I could take them anywhere and read them on my phone... |
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| 10:47.47 | Jucato | Q-collective: true... but I don't foresee KDE 3.5 becoming obsoleted entirely anytime soon, even after KDE 4.0 |
| 10:48.10 | annma | KDE3 is in for 2 years I think |
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| 10:48.16 | Jucato | but yeah, KDE 4 would probably be the most practical book to make |
| 10:48.19 | Q-collective | Jucato: perhaps, but I guess most users will have switched in about a year or so |
| 10:48.34 | Jucato | Q-collective: who said anything about users? it's a programmer's book :P |
| 10:49.01 | Q-collective | yeah, programmers don't have to mind about their audience at all ^_^ |
| 10:49.04 | Q-collective | silly me ^_^ |
| 10:49.11 | Jucato | hehe :) |
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| 10:49.34 | Jucato | but everything's "wikis" nowadays... |
| 10:49.44 | kakalto | how do I disable and/or change the KDE login sound? I can't seem to find it in the system notifications section of kcontrol |
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| 10:50.09 | Jucato | kakalto: I think the event name is KDE Startup |
| 10:50.30 | Jucato | kakalto: check if you're looking at the correct set of System Notifications from the drop-down list at the top. |
| 10:50.53 | kakalto | Jucato: which is it? there didn't seem to be an applicable one |
| 10:50.55 | Jucato | (usually the default one that shows from KControl -> Sound and Multimedia -> System Notifications) |
| 10:51.56 | kakalto | I mean, they are to do with sound, and notifying... of stuff that happens on the system... |
| 10:51.59 | kakalto | but, well. uh. |
| 10:52.02 | kakalto | *shrugs* |
| 10:52.03 | Jucato | because they notify you of system events :) |
| 10:52.12 | Jucato | still can't find it? |
| 10:53.00 | kakalto | nope |
| 10:53.01 | kakalto | =/ |
| 10:53.24 | kakalto | found it =) |
| 10:53.29 | Jucato | heh |
| 10:53.42 | kakalto | under KDE System Notifications (which, for some reason, I couldn't see as an option before) |
| 10:53.53 | Jucato | :P |
| 10:54.27 | kakalto | why does that ogg always sound low quality upon login, but when I play it after kde has started, it sounds perfect quality? |
| 10:57.21 | logixoul | kakalto: by low quality do you mean it's skippy? |
| 10:57.28 | kakalto | probably my speakers. just switched to headphones and turned the volumes down before finding it sounding decent |
| 10:57.44 | kakalto | but when I turn up volume, it sounds crappy again |
| 10:57.59 | kakalto | is it possible to specify an mp3 for such sounds? |
| 10:58.08 | logixoul | yes |
| 10:58.21 | logixoul | but it shouldn't make it sound better |
| 10:58.30 | Jucato | as long as the player you are using supports playing mp3's |
| 10:58.31 | logixoul | s/shouldn't/won't/ |
| 11:01.05 | kakalto | oh, naw, this is just a random tangent now :P |
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| 11:01.38 | kakalto | like, log into kde, and "I see a red door, and I want it painted black..." |
| 11:01.39 | kakalto | :P |
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| 11:13.33 | Mathman | Jucato: helps to know how to use my dang software. |
| 11:13.48 | Mathman | turns out I just need to pass an -ac option to Xephyr and I'm golden |
| 11:14.06 | Jucato | aah |
| 11:14.09 | Jucato | what does -ac do? |
| 11:14.38 | Mathman | disables access control |
| 11:14.38 | Jucato | oooh |
| 11:14.38 | Jucato | dang! kdebase still not finished... |
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| 11:20.18 | MrGrim | kakalto: depending on the soundcard and wether the mixer is software or not and any combination thereof mixing too high can cause clipping which will result in shitty sound |
| 11:21.06 | kakalto | well, my soundcard is crappy onboard VIA thing |
| 11:21.14 | kakalto | so I don't expect great sound anyway =) |
| 11:21.50 | kakalto | I just get rather irritated by the log in sound |
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| 11:22.57 | qupada | i can't even remember the last time i had sounds enabled in kde |
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| 12:42.30 | Jucato | annma: at last kdebase finished downloading!!! |
| 12:42.37 | annma | :) |
| 12:42.57 | Jucato | that was so darned slow... :( |
| 12:43.18 | annma | yes |
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| 12:44.43 | Jucato | now to *gulps* compile... |
| 12:47.15 | kakalto | =/ |
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| 13:12.35 | lotusleaf | Hi, are there any Konqueror developers present? I was curious how I would go about suggesting right-click md5deep support (http://md5deep.sourceforge.net/) for generation and verification of md5, sha1, sha256, tiger, and whirlpool checksums like Krusader offers |
| 13:13.11 | lotusleaf | or, if this would be something for other non-devel ppl to do as a project of their own |
| 13:15.28 | annma | that would be a plugin maybe |
| 13:16.11 | lotusleaf | annma: hello :) thanks, so would this be best as a project for non-devs or should I use the konqueror mailing list to sugges tthis idea? |
| 13:16.21 | lotusleaf | Jucato: oh? :) |
| 13:16.36 | annma | plugins are development |
| 13:16.46 | annma | but not within konqueror code |
| 13:16.51 | lotusleaf | ah |
| 13:17.00 | lotusleaf | I would gladly worship the one who implements this idea |
| 13:17.11 | Jucato | lotusleaf: nothing in kde-apps.org yet? |
| 13:17.19 | lotusleaf | Jucato: you know, I haven't checked, one moment. ;) |
| 13:17.55 | lotusleaf | Jucato: I hadn't seen anything, in late 2004 I suggested this to the Krusader devs and they kindly added it |
| 13:18.11 | Jucato | lotusleaf: within Krusader itself? or as a plugin? |
| 13:18.19 | lotusleaf | nothing found for md5deep on kde-apps |
| 13:18.39 | lotusleaf | Jucato: I'm not sure how it was implemented, if you install krusader and md5deep it works |
| 13:18.49 | annma | how would it work in konq? |
| 13:18.58 | Jucato | hehe that's not very clear :) |
| 13:19.04 | lotusleaf | sorry, let me check #krusader |
| 13:19.18 | lotusleaf | darn, it's empty |
| 13:19.21 | lotusleaf | one sec let me google |
| 13:19.32 | annma | lotusleaf: how do you proceed? |
| 13:19.38 | annma | in krusader? |
| 13:19.48 | annma | explain me how it wprks |
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| 13:20.11 | lotusleaf | annma: if you have md5deep installed and you install krusder the option to verify and generate checksums via md5deep works as a menu option or as a toolbar button icon option |
| 13:20.23 | lotusleaf | one sec, I link to the information |
| 13:20.38 | annma | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:20.42 | annma | you said that |
| 13:20.47 | annma | so it's not the same |
| 13:21.22 | Jucato | lotusleaf: the easiest way to implement something like that would probably be through a service menu. does md5deep have its own GUI? |
| 13:21.22 | lotusleaf | Jucato: md5deep allows recursive generation as well for md5, sha1, sha256, tiger, whirlpool |
| 13:21.44 | lotusleaf | Jucato: so you could store checksums of an entire CDROM of all files in their respective directions in one checksum file |
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| 13:22.02 | lotusleaf | in this thread they mentioned adding it: http://krusader.sourceforge.net/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=1024 |
| 13:22.18 | annma | how do you see right click working? |
| 13:22.42 | lotusleaf | annma: like I do for resizing images option |
| 13:23.07 | annma | explain |
| 13:23.14 | lotusleaf | Shie Erlich would be the person to talk to about how he implemented this into Krusader |
| 13:23.19 | annma | you right click on a tar |
| 13:23.25 | lotusleaf | I believe his nick here is shie |
| 13:23.41 | annma | it's an action in krusader |
| 13:23.43 | lotusleaf | annma: for example, you right click on a file or directory and select an option |
| 13:23.49 | annma | what option? |
| 13:23.58 | Jucato | (sounds a lot like a service menu, but...) |
| 13:24.00 | annma | how does it check the sum? |
| 13:24.02 | lotusleaf | annma: one sec let me load krusader |
| 13:24.11 | annma | in krusader it is an action |
| 13:24.22 | lotusleaf | In krusader it's listed in File |
| 13:24.34 | annma | so not a right click |
| 13:24.41 | lotusleaf | I apologise if my descriptions are poor |
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| 13:24.47 | annma | before asking a feature you need to define the feature correctly |
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| 13:25.08 | Jucato | :) |
| 13:25.16 | annma | I don't see how it knows where to check |
| 13:25.19 | lotusleaf | I don't see a right-click option but this would be useful in konqueror |
| 13:25.29 | annma | define this |
| 13:25.43 | annma | lotusleaf: do more research and come back please |
| 13:25.49 | lotusleaf | annma: thank you |
| 13:25.50 | annma | look in other addons for konq |
| 13:26.02 | lotusleaf | annma: thanks, I will prepare the information and come back when I have it all :) |
| 13:26.06 | lotusleaf | I appreciate the kind ear |
| 13:26.10 | annma | ok |
| 13:26.41 | annma | It can be a Tool item |
| 13:27.05 | lotusleaf | annma: it sure could ;) |
| 13:27.13 | lotusleaf | and a powerful tool at that |
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| 13:27.18 | annma | hmm |
| 13:27.23 | Jucato | can be a 3rd party konq-plugins |
| 13:27.28 | annma | there are 2 things in it |
| 13:27.35 | annma | generate checksums and check |
| 13:27.42 | annma | is that right lotusleaf ? |
| 13:27.52 | lotusleaf | annma: yes, for konqueror I would imagine more options would be better ;) |
| 13:27.53 | annma | generate can be a right click |
| 13:28.01 | annma | as it applies to all files |
| 13:28.15 | annma | for checking I am more puzzled |
| 13:28.20 | lotusleaf | annma: I'm sure generation and verification could be a right click option as well |
| 13:28.32 | lotusleaf | annma: as one file would contain the checksums |
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| 13:28.34 | annma | it depends if you need to pass arguments |
| 13:28.38 | lotusleaf | annma: very true |
| 13:28.45 | lotusleaf | for recursive verification |
| 13:28.46 | annma | so see, it needs research |
| 13:28.50 | lotusleaf | indeed |
| 13:29.08 | annma | and look at kde-apps |
| 13:29.45 | annma | in last resort you can make a konq wish for it but it needs to be documented, have mockups |
| 13:30.01 | Jucato | mockups, examples, use cases... |
| 13:30.05 | annma | otherwise nobody will look into it |
| 13:30.11 | annma | yes, all that |
| 13:30.28 | annma | there are tons of konq bugs and vague stuff will be ignored |
| 13:30.34 | Jucato | and if the itch is strong enough, be prepared to get your hands dirty too :P |
| 13:30.39 | annma | :) |
| 13:30.57 | Jucato | +/- 800 unconfirmed bugs to be exact |
| 13:31.07 | Jucato | and those are just unconfirmed ones :) |
| 13:31.09 | annma | yes... |
| 13:31.28 | annma | lotusleaf: so you have all elements in hands |
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| 13:32.08 | lotusleaf | annma: thank you for your time, patience, interest, and details, I appreciate it. :) |
| 13:32.17 | lotusleaf | Jucato: indeed, and thank you as well. ;) |
| 13:32.26 | Jucato | :) |
| 13:32.44 | Daverocks | um, random question, should #kde be set +t? |
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| 13:33.18 | Jucato | no one can change the topic except ops, afaik |
| 13:33.29 | Daverocks | hm ok. |
| 13:34.42 | annma | ;) |
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| 13:37.50 | lotusleaf | Jucato: link? |
| 13:38.20 | Jucato | oops... I should have > to you :P |
| 13:38.20 | lotusleaf | Jucato: thx ;) |
| 13:38.35 | lotusleaf | heheh np ;) I heard your msg with the nice kde pop sound |
| 13:38.44 | Jucato | heheh :) |
| 13:39.10 | Jucato | nixternal said it could be included... but I just don't know much of the red tape involved and the proper process of requesting it... |
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| 13:41.37 | lotusleaf | Jucato: dunno but good luck, nice link |
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| 13:41.50 | Jucato | heh thanks |
| 13:42.01 | lotusleaf | Jucato: wouldn't the doc team be a place to ask? |
| 13:42.09 | Jucato | yeah :) |
| 13:42.14 | lotusleaf | Jucato: they have a channel here |
| 13:42.15 | Jucato | I was just /me wondering :P |
| 13:42.19 | lotusleaf | ah ;-) |
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| 13:42.43 | Jucato | but I'm happy as it is that it's in KDE's User Guide for 3.5.6 :P |
| 13:44.15 | lotusleaf | :) |
| 13:44.17 | Xemanth | btw when will be 3.5.6 out ? |
| 13:44.26 | lotusleaf | yeah, I'm foaming at the mouth for 3.5.6 |
| 13:44.49 | Jucato | this month, iirc |
| 13:45.23 | lotusleaf | woot! |
| 13:46.35 | wedgeV | how does kde get notified about new medias? eg: when i insert a cdrom |
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| 13:48.26 | Xemanth | Jucato: oh nice :) |
| 13:49.24 | lotusleaf | Jucato: so should I ask for your signature now before you become famous? |
| 13:49.50 | Jucato | lotusleaf: lol! I doub't I'd be anytime soon :) |
| 13:50.02 | Jucato | you'd be one of the first to know before I do, though :P |
| 13:50.08 | lotusleaf | Jucato: that's why you get everyone's signature just in case, because you never know ;) |
| 13:50.26 | Jucato | annma: compiling kdebase was shorter than downloading it... :/ |
| 13:50.33 | Jucato | lotusleaf: heheh :) |
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| 13:58.14 | AndyBe | hello everybody is somene working with Kontact and egrouware? |
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| 14:00.07 | Jucato | annma: it runs!!! (again) |
| 14:00.28 | annma | :) wow |
| 14:00.52 | annma | AndyBe: #kontact |
| 14:00.58 | Jucato | annma: yeah.. big "wow" |
| 14:01.09 | annma | :)) |
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| 14:01.52 | Jucato | lol I forgot to rename my old/working .kde :P |
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| 14:05.25 | Tm_T | Jucato: See? You should wait your new logical chipset, trust me. |
| 14:05.45 | Jucato | Tm_T: it would come sooner if you contribute some $$$ :) |
| 14:05.52 | annma | lol |
| 14:06.19 | Tm_T | Jucato: Hey, I ordered them already, now back to your work, damned machine! |
| 14:06.32 | Jucato | yes, (old) sir! :) |
| 14:06.39 | Tm_T | :) |
| 14:06.48 | Jucato | (very old) sir :P |
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| 14:11.06 | hibread | hello hello |
| 14:11.32 | hibread | i was wondering if anyone else has issues with the auto spell checker turning off everytime i close a chat window |
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| 14:11.44 | annma | what app? |
| 14:11.51 | hibread | argh, that would help :) |
| 14:11.57 | hibread | but atleast i got your attention he! |
| 14:11.59 | hibread | kopete |
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| 14:12.30 | annma | what about other apps like kmail? |
| 14:12.31 | Jucato | yep, happens to me occasionally... also in konversation |
| 14:12.31 | Tm_T | hibread: Keep closing it, remember to close it from every currently opened chats before closing window. |
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| 14:12.36 | hibread | oh right. it never used to (months back) |
| 14:12.40 | Tm_T | hibread: Sucky default. |
| 14:13.07 | hibread | which line of code sets the default to 0? :) |
| 14:13.15 | hibread | ill happily make it 1 hehe |
| 14:13.21 | Tm_T | Known feature, I actually do some sed magic to my kopeterc in time to time because of that. |
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| 14:13.41 | Jucato | hibread: maybe they know in #kopete (Tm_T is there too) |
| 14:13.45 | Tm_T | hibread: Hmh, have to check that, could be changed here too currently. :p |
| 14:14.04 | faeryNatsuki | Hello! i want to save and reuse custom emoticons in kopete or gaim the same way live messenger does, how can i do that? |
| 14:14.09 | Tm_T | Both channels go, I don't care. |
| 14:14.10 | hibread | Jucato: nice call |
| 14:14.16 | hibread | ./join #kopete |
| 14:14.18 | hibread | oops |
| 14:14.20 | hibread | haha!@ |
| 14:14.20 | annma | faeryNatsuki: #kopete |
| 14:14.35 | annma | faeryNatsuki: we don't support gaim however |
| 14:14.42 | faeryNatsuki | :'( i was traeling from channel to channel, jeje, thanks |
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| 14:25.22 | CtrlAltCa | is kvirc a kde app? |
| 14:25.54 | apokryphos | yes :P |
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| 14:26.07 | Elephantman | hello |
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| 14:30.56 | Jucato | annma: have you encountered building something that needed libpoppler qt bindings? |
| 14:31.20 | annma | hmm no |
| 14:31.35 | annma | okular might |
| 14:31.43 | Jucato | oh ok... hm... |
| 14:31.46 | annma | but i did not build it |
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| 14:31.58 | Jucato | koffice needs it for pdf support... |
| 14:32.12 | annma | oh |
| 14:32.28 | Jucato | but if I install the Kubuntu package that installs the libpoppler-qt-dev (development files/headers), Kubuntu's Qt also needs to be installed... |
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| 14:32.38 | Tm_T | Jucato: Yup. |
| 14:32.48 | annma | it does not matter though |
| 14:32.57 | Jucato | Tm_T: you know how I can go around it? |
| 14:33.07 | Tm_T | Jucato: IIRC you can force it to forget dependencies. |
| 14:33.13 | annma | ler |
| 14:33.20 | Jucato | annma: it's ok to install Kubuntu's Qt? (after the hard work I've done for qt-copy :P) |
| 14:33.20 | Tm_T | If no other, take sources, edite and repackage. |
| 14:33.38 | annma | you installed qt-copy? |
| 14:33.52 | Jucato | annma: not make install, just make |
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| 14:34.05 | Jucato | like what the guide said... |
| 14:34.09 | annma | :) you're safe |
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| 14:34.17 | Jucato | hehe :) |
| 14:34.50 | Jucato | so I can safely install libqt3-mt (from Kubuntu)? as long as I have $QTDIR=/my/qt-copy, I'm fine when it comes to compiling? |
| 14:36.50 | Tm_T | Yes. |
| 14:37.35 | Jucato | thankies! :) |
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| 14:38.37 | Tm_T | Sure, as long as you keep those two "systems" somewhat separate. |
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| 14:40.11 | Jucato | hm.. tricky, but worth a try :) |
| 14:41.11 | annma | just set QTDIR to point to qt-copy |
| 14:41.28 | annma | and add $QTDIR/bin to PATH |
| 14:41.43 | annma | or set QTDIR to KUbuntu qt when you need it |
| 14:41.58 | annma | the package manager from kubuntu will not know you have qt-copy |
| 14:42.47 | Jucato | oh |
| 14:43.19 | Jucato | yeah I have QTDIR pointing to qt-copy and QTDIR/bin added to PATH |
| 14:43.41 | Jucato | heh, all these just for libpoppler qt bindings... |
| 14:43.44 | annma | :) |
| 14:44.13 | annma | i have only libpoppler1-0.5.3-5mdv2007.0 |
| 14:44.22 | annma | and poppler |
| 14:44.36 | annma | is it a requirement to build KOffice? |
| 14:45.01 | Jucato | not really an absolute requirement |
| 14:45.34 | Jucato | You're missing libpoppler 0.5.1 or later (binaries and/or headers). krita won't be able to import pdf note that the qt-binding of libpoppler is required |
| 14:46.33 | annma | i don't use krita heavily |
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| 14:46.43 | Jucato | I plan on learning it so... :) |
| 14:46.45 | annma | ;) just some resizing and crop |
| 14:46.48 | Jucato | here goes nothing... |
| 14:48.35 | Jucato | Tm_T: would you know where I could get the source for the Qt bindings to libpoppler? |
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| 14:48.56 | Jucato | (just wondering really) |
| 14:51.38 | Tm_T | For Qt 4? |
| 14:52.09 | Jucato | Tm_T: Qt 3 |
| 14:52.26 | Tm_T | Hm, I see, well, no idea. |
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| 14:52.39 | Jucato | hehe thanks anyway, sir :) |
| 14:53.07 | Tm_T | Just wanted to know what I don't know. ;) |
| 14:53.23 | Jucato | hehe |
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| 14:54.46 | Jucato | I will try to compile krita first, as it has been the most problematic |
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| 15:28.36 | smileaf | visik7: tried asking in #kaffeine ? |
| 15:28.46 | visik7 | no I'll do |
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| 15:29.07 | jeremy_g | hej hej |
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| 15:29.30 | jeremy_g | 7 years of linux and never knew kde had one channel too |
| 15:29.43 | smileaf | lol |
| 15:29.52 | Jucato | :P |
| 15:30.11 | jeremy_g | are these all trolltech developers,users ? |
| 15:30.19 | smileaf | about everything has a channel it seems. |
| 15:30.26 | jeremy_g | no |
| 15:31.10 | jeremy_g | there is no channel after your nick smileaf |
| 15:31.24 | jeremy_g | your theory proved wrong see |
| 15:31.25 | smileaf | sure there is. |
| 15:31.28 | annma | jeremy_g: it's a users support channel for kde |
| 15:31.33 | smileaf | I'm here, thats good enough for me =) |
| 15:31.48 | jeremy_g | annma:ah! girly stuff, where are the men (kde developer channel) |
| 15:31.50 | annma | jeremy_g: the qt devel questions are asked in #qt |
| 15:31.58 | annma | LOL |
| 15:32.02 | Jucato | about *everything* has a channel. smileaf is not a thing, therefore smileaf has no channel :) |
| 15:32.02 | jeremy_g | kde specific |
| 15:32.03 | annma | girly stuff!!! |
| 15:32.06 | annma | good one |
| 15:32.19 | annma | #kde-devel |
| 15:32.28 | annma | but there are girls too |
| 15:32.36 | jeremy_g | girls are good |
| 15:32.40 | jeremy_g | if they can code |
| 15:32.41 | smileaf | gotta be careful of them girly channels =p |
| 15:33.09 | Jucato | annma is good, and she can code, and she can seriously kick ss in here :) |
| 15:33.23 | annma | lol |
| 15:33.36 | annma | lol |
| 15:34.08 | jeremy_g | annma:what do you eat for dinner? |
| 15:34.16 | annma | I cook |
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| 15:34.28 | annma | some pie this evening |
| 15:34.42 | annma | I look into KRecipes |
| 15:34.51 | jeremy_g | does that help |
| 15:34.51 | Jucato | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:35.31 | annma | yes of course |
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| 15:36.05 | Jucato | one of these days, I think I should take a peak at krecipes :) |
| 15:36.29 | smileaf | its not bad. |
| 15:36.30 | jeremy_g | peek |
| 15:36.30 | Jucato | lol |
| 15:36.31 | Jucato | sorry.. ¨peek¨ |
| 15:36.55 | jeremy_g | quciky meals |
| 15:37.09 | jeremy_g | um tired of eating biscuits while coding as lunch |
| 15:37.10 | Jucato | hm... uh oh... |
| 15:38.12 | Jucato | annma: you build the KDE API documentation yourself? (make apidox) |
| 15:38.22 | annma | no I don't |
| 15:38.29 | annma | I look at it online |
| 15:38.32 | Jucato | ah |
| 15:39.12 | smileaf | cookie? =p |
| 15:40.29 | Jucato | I wonder... should I build the docs myself or just install the ones from the repositories... I want to be able to also browse them offline... |
| 15:41.05 | DaSkreech | annma: I like krecipes. If it was a bit mroe streamlined I'm sure it could be part of the feature set of KDE |
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| 15:41.29 | DaSkreech | annma: As is my current infatuation i think it could use GHNS :) |
| 15:41.30 | annma | DaSkreech: yes |
| 15:41.37 | annma | YES |
| 15:41.52 | annma | however we need something else than this kde-files.org |
| 15:41.56 | DaSkreech | annma: SEE? someone agrees with me. I'm not sure that GHNS is up to krecipes though |
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| 15:41.59 | annma | for GHNS |
| 15:42.07 | DaSkreech | Not following |
| 15:42.07 | annma | I am not sure either |
| 15:42.13 | annma | to upload files |
| 15:42.16 | visik7 | smileaf: on #kaffeine nobody answers |
| 15:42.19 | Jucato | wow! that´s a first! someone agrees with DaSkreech... |
| 15:42.21 | DaSkreech | You can't host your own GHNS server? |
| 15:42.22 | annma | GHNS is about sharing files |
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| 15:42.26 | benJIman | colo_intevo: perhaps you're not patient enough |
| 15:42.31 | visik7 | btw this is what I get http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/7369/pdfe5.png |
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| 15:42.32 | DaSkreech | Jucato: I'm on the phone to my heart doctor as we speak |
| 15:42.37 | benJIman | * visik7 |
| 15:42.38 | colo_intevo | huh? |
| 15:42.39 | DaSkreech | Too |
| 15:42.39 | Jucato | uh oh |
| 15:42.40 | DaSkreech | much |
| 15:42.41 | annma | you can but you need one |
| 15:42.43 | DaSkreech | adrenaline |
| 15:42.51 | Jucato | eek...baaad |
| 15:42.51 | annma | ah |
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| 15:43.56 | DaSkreech | I wish KGHNS had some more interest. |
| 15:44.08 | DaSkreech | People seem to be enthralled with klik but GHNS is soooo much better |
| 15:44.10 | Jucato | annma: any experience building the docs with apidox? even once? :) |
| 15:44.13 | DaSkreech | it IS community |
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| 15:44.34 | annma | DaSkreech: however this server problem is a problem |
| 15:44.53 | DaSkreech | Why does it have to be kept on kde-files? |
| 15:44.58 | annma | I was one of the first to use GHNS |
| 15:45.04 | annma | where else? |
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| 15:45.13 | annma | someone like me has no server |
| 15:45.16 | DaSkreech | a personal server? |
| 15:45.21 | annma | it's bad |
| 15:45.36 | annma | the person gets out of KDE nd everything is lost |
| 15:45.36 | DaSkreech | Maybe we could have it refactored to use some p2p? |
| 15:45.46 | DaSkreech | The code is open isn't it? |
| 15:45.47 | annma | that would be interesting yes |
| 15:45.51 | annma | yes of course |
| 15:46.03 | annma | there'll be a KHNS2 for kde4 |
| 15:46.18 | DaSkreech | Seriously? IS there a site I can follow it? |
| 15:46.29 | annma | it's part of free desktop |
| 15:46.36 | annma | but there's not much on it |
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| 15:47.01 | DaSkreech | Last time I read up on it it was mostly on a personal site |
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| 15:48.07 | annma | http://ghns.freedesktop.org/ |
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| 15:49.40 | HenryTheVIII | Hi! I want to redesign my desktop and to have desktop applets instead of panels. (I want to have icons of my most used application on the desktop [somewhere in the center] for exmaple).. How can I do it? I know about superkaramba but it's not so easy to create simple things and change them... any ideas? |
| 15:50.26 | DaSkreech | Hmm I wonder if we should jump in to suggest p2p now |
| 15:51.09 | annma | not a bad idea DaSkreech |
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| 16:12.35 | XVampireX | Hey |
| 16:12.55 | DaSkreech | is for horses |
| 16:13.28 | XVampireX | Lies |
| 16:13.57 | XVampireX | Where do I disable things from automatically starting up even though I already told it to start up and not to ask me anymore? |
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| 16:14.53 | smileaf | what are you trying to disable from starting up? |
| 16:14.54 | XVampireX | for example korganizer I told it by mistake to not ask me anymore and to startup |
| 16:15.18 | XVampireX | korganizer |
| 16:15.26 | smileaf | you mean the reminder daemon? |
| 16:15.29 | Jucato | right-click on the system tray icon |
| 16:15.31 | XVampireX | yeah |
| 16:15.44 | XVampireX | I already did that but it keeps starting up |
| 16:15.46 | smileaf | there is a menu option for that if you right click on the sys tray icon. |
| 16:16.18 | smileaf | session management maybe? |
| 16:16.21 | Jucato | do you have Session Manager set to restore from previous sessions? |
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| 16:17.13 | XVampireX | yes |
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| 16:26.29 | danieldg | does anyone know the mechanism by which kmix is launched when the volume up/down (XF86AudioRaiseVolume) key is pressed, and/or a quick way to disable it? |
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| 16:32.27 | thiago | XVampireX: GNOME allows modifier-only shortcuts because they want them |
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| 16:32.35 | thiago | XVampireX: we in KDE don't. That's why we don't allow them. |
| 16:32.48 | thiago | XVampireX: and there are some technical reasons too, because they are much harder to catch and treat correctly. |
| 16:33.23 | XVampireX | Alright, thanks :D |
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| 16:35.15 | MrGrim | danieldg: kmilo iirc, it's a service so you control it in kcontrol through the services config |
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| 16:37.22 | danieldg | MrGrim: does kmilo have a configuration page/something? |
| 16:37.39 | MrGrim | no tthat I am aware of, but I could be wrong |
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| 16:38.09 | smileaf | can't you change its config using the systray it provides? |
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| 16:39.31 | danieldg | well, I'll just rewrite the actions I wanted from it using input actions. Thanks |
| 16:39.41 | MrGrim | it provides a systray? |
| 16:39.52 | smileaf | last I checked. |
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| 16:40.11 | danieldg | I don't see any systray for kmilo |
| 16:40.30 | smileaf | maybe I'm thinking of something else then.. isn't kmilo a network monitor? |
| 16:40.35 | danieldg | no |
| 16:40.57 | smileaf | oh... then I'm completely confused, ignore me ;) |
| 16:41.01 | Stalwart | knemo is network monitor |
| 16:41.16 | smileaf | ah ha! thats the one |
| 16:41.28 | smileaf | whats kmilo? |
| 16:41.28 | thiago | NEtwork MOnitor |
| 16:41.33 | thiago | but you had me confused too... |
| 16:41.38 | Stalwart | Mind Locker |
| 16:41.57 | smileaf | mind locker?.. |
| 16:42.11 | Stalwart | yes, it hypnotizes you with useless tray icon |
| 16:42.24 | thiago | that's amor |
| 16:43.13 | Stalwart | damn, i think about switching back to kde again |
| 16:43.20 | Stalwart | kdebluetooth looks very cool |
| 16:43.36 | Stalwart | but i can't stand shitload of useless features ;[ |
| 16:44.03 | Stalwart | even if i dasble everything i still don't like kde being overfeatured |
| 16:44.13 | smileaf | nor do I .. thats why I don't use them and get over it because I'd rather have things I don't use, than want things that I don't have. |
| 16:44.50 | Stalwart | meta ebuilds don't help |
| 16:45.12 | MrGrim | I'm still hugging them |
| 16:45.44 | smileaf | that was classic.. lol |
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| 16:46.46 | MrGrim | there's a definition for channel #X and bitching about why you don't use X |
| 16:46.57 | MrGrim | joining channel #X |
| 16:46.58 | MrGrim | that is |
| 16:47.19 | Stalwart | didn't understand you |
| 16:47.27 | MrGrim | 'sok |
| 16:48.20 | MrGrim | I'm still trying to wrap my mind around how beryl, when it isn't crashing, manages to be slower than kwin while using opengl :D |
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| 16:48.42 | Stalwart | beryl is fast on my laptop |
| 16:48.52 | Stalwart | i'm using it right now, no problems |
| 16:49.02 | DaSkreech | Where is Stephan |
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| 16:49.11 | DaSkreech | annma: Want a doc challenge? |
| 16:49.15 | Stalwart | few crashes, but it's fine for program being actively developed |
| 16:49.15 | MrGrim | Stalwart: then clearly you should give me your laptop |
| 16:49.22 | annma | DaSkreech: lol, no thanks |
| 16:49.28 | DaSkreech | Blast |
| 16:49.29 | Stalwart | MrGrim: i'd like to do so |
| 16:49.37 | annma | DaSkreech: I need first to know the app a bit |
| 16:49.42 | DaSkreech | I want to push knoware up the notch a bit more |
| 16:50.00 | Stalwart | MrGrim: i'm sure you don't want my laptop |
| 16:50.00 | annma | knoware? |
| 16:50.02 | MrGrim | DaSkreech: incorrect use of terminology |
| 16:50.09 | DaSkreech | MrGrim: Where? |
| 16:50.10 | MrGrim | that's KICK knoware up A notch |
| 16:50.17 | DaSkreech | BAM!! |
| 16:50.22 | MrGrim | :D |
| 16:50.28 | annma | what is knoware? |
| 16:50.43 | Stalwart | where can i find kdepim devs? |
| 16:50.57 | annma | Stalwart: nowhere |
| 16:50.57 | Stalwart | i want to talk about Kontact and its calendar part |
| 16:51.02 | DaSkreech | annma: http://developer.kde.org/summerofcode/knoware.html |
| 16:51.04 | annma | they are having a meeting |
| 16:51.14 | Stalwart | meeting? |
| 16:51.15 | annma | Stalwart: use bugzilla |
| 16:51.18 | annma | yes |
| 16:51.22 | Stalwart | akademy? |
| 16:51.26 | MrGrim | oh ya is the kopete aim file xfer code in svn? |
| 16:51.30 | MrGrim | from soc? |
| 16:51.34 | annma | Stalwart: no, a kdepim meeting |
| 16:51.38 | Stalwart | cool |
| 16:51.45 | Stalwart | kontact is VERY good app |
| 16:51.54 | Stalwart | one of best K apps |
| 16:51.59 | Stalwart | it beats even amarok |
| 16:52.04 | annma | what do you want to tell them? |
| 16:52.18 | annma | about calendar? |
| 16:52.40 | Stalwart | i'm planning to buy symbian 9.1 powered smartphone and want to know if i can sync calendar with kontact? |
| 16:53.05 | MrGrim | why do you need to ask the devs that directly? kde is a community supported project with a big damn community |
| 16:53.06 | MrGrim | ask it |
| 16:53.08 | annma | no idea, ask in #kontact |
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| 16:53.35 | MrGrim | let the devs code :D |
| 16:54.12 | Stalwart | annma: thanks, i'll ask |
| 16:54.35 | annma | but as they are in a meeting you might want to wait |
| 16:54.40 | annma | until Monday |
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| 16:57.21 | annma | I'll be back after dinner |
| 16:57.28 | annma | bye all |
| 16:57.30 | annma | ;) |
| 16:59.59 | kendrick | konq still crashes when you click a 'close this window' JS link |
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| 17:00.11 | kendrick | example: view a screenshot of some project at freshmeat |
| 17:00.24 | kendrick | then click the 'close' link below the screenshot in the window/tab that appeared |
| 17:00.29 | kendrick | bye-bye konqi :( |
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| 17:01.13 | tuxick | konq also crashes badly on sf downloads |
| 17:01.29 | tuxick | if you click on the 'give it to me now' instead of waiting for redirect |
| 17:01.32 | thiago | kendrick: testcase? |
| 17:02.21 | kendrick | thiago: go to freshmeat. find a project. view its screenshot. click the 'Close' link on the sshot page. |
| 17:02.37 | kendrick | there's an example in the bug i reported, long ago, from someone else |
| 17:02.44 | kendrick | http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=120594 |
| 17:03.31 | kendrick | typing one handed. holding infant :) |
| 17:03.42 | tuxick | yeye sure |
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| 17:04.06 | tuxick | kendrick: it's ok here |
| 17:04.18 | tuxick | konq 3.5.5 |
| 17:04.19 | kendrick | oh? |
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| 17:04.26 | kendrick | too |
| 17:04.30 | tuxick | on gentoo :) |
| 17:04.48 | BCMM | with HAL working, should hard disk partitions show up in system:/media? |
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| 17:04.57 | thiago | kendrick: link? |
| 17:05.22 | BCMM | because i have an mp3 player and a smartmedia reader working fine but a FAT32 and an NTFS partition which aren't shown |
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| 17:05.37 | thiago | BCMM: yes |
| 17:05.37 | kendrick | thiago: e.g.: http://freshmeat.net/projects/webcbq/ then click screenshot. opens in new window |
| 17:05.50 | kendrick | then click the "CLose" html link at bottom-center of the sshot window |
| 17:05.53 | BCMM | thiago: any idea why they don't show up? |
| 17:06.11 | kendrick | oh weird. kde crash handler.. i cannot select/copy text...? |
| 17:06.28 | BCMM | thiago: i see my root partition, the floppy drive, and the 2 usb devices |
| 17:06.28 | thiago | BCMM: do they show up on lshal? |
| 17:06.33 | kendrick | heh, and "Check if it is listed on http://bugs.kde.org/...". that url should be a clickable link ;) |
| 17:06.34 | thiago | kendrick: I can confirm |
| 17:06.42 | kendrick | crash for you, too? |
| 17:06.46 | kendrick | not gentoo, eh? ;) |
| 17:06.56 | BCMM | thiago: wow, didn't knwo that command, how do i interpret output? |
| 17:07.12 | kendrick | ack baby spitup!!!!!! |
| 17:07.14 | thiago | BCMM: find the device volume that represents your device |
| 17:07.23 | kendrick | yick |
| 17:07.24 | thiago | BCMM: it's easier to search for its /dev/sd* device |
| 17:07.38 | thiago | kendrick: it's Akregator that is crashing... |
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| 17:08.16 | smileaf | kendrick: don't you love kids? =) |
| 17:08.34 | BCMM | thiago: i have "block.device = '/dev/hda2' (string)" |
| 17:08.45 | thiago | BCMM: is that your device? |
| 17:08.46 | BCMM | thiago: and similar for hda and hda1-4 |
| 17:08.50 | BCMM | thiago: yeah |
| 17:09.07 | BCMM | thiago: works ok if mounted manually |
| 17:09.09 | thiago | BCMM: what's your hard drive? |
| 17:09.25 | BCMM | thiago: /dev/hda |
| 17:09.32 | thiago | BCMM: what is your device then? |
| 17:09.42 | BCMM | thiago: what do you mean? |
| 17:09.54 | BCMM | sorry, i don't understand |
| 17:10.06 | thiago | BCMM: if /dev/hda is your hard drive, which one is your MP3 player? |
| 17:10.28 | thiago | wait, is it your NTFS and FAT partitions that aren't showing? |
| 17:10.35 | BCMM | thiago: yeah |
| 17:10.39 | BCMM | sorry for bad explanation |
| 17:10.46 | BCMM | the usb devices are examples of what do work |
| 17:10.53 | thiago | are they mounted? |
| 17:10.53 | BCMM | to show that HAL is working right |
| 17:10.57 | BCMM | no |
| 17:10.58 | thiago | are they on /etc/fstab? |
| 17:11.00 | BCMM | i want to mount them |
| 17:11.02 | BCMM | thiago: no |
| 17:11.06 | BCMM | thiago: they need to be? |
| 17:11.07 | thiago | that's why they aren't showing |
| 17:11.16 | thiago | they show only if they are mounted or in /etc/fstab |
| 17:11.20 | BCMM | thiago: ah ok, i assumed they were treated just like USB devices |
| 17:11.22 | MrGrim | aren't there ways around that? |
| 17:11.22 | BCMM | dunno why really |
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| 17:11.59 | thiago | if your non-removable devices aren't on /etc/fstab, it's because you don't want them |
| 17:12.08 | thiago | removable ones aren't on /etc/fstab for obvious reasons |
| 17:12.14 | BCMM | thiago: fair enough |
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| 17:12.34 | thiago | at least, I think that's the reason |
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| 17:13.34 | BCMM | thiago: do i need any special fstab options to allow normal users to mount it? |
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| 17:13.45 | locker | excuse me |
| 17:13.58 | locker | i can't use GIAM |
| 17:14.44 | locker | anybody can help me out? |
| 17:15.05 | DaSkreech | locker: install kopete |
| 17:15.28 | locker | thx, but i can't log on use kopete |
| 17:15.48 | locker | when i use giam, it seems working but soon it disappered |
| 17:16.04 | locker | i mean the window did't exist in the desktop |
| 17:17.37 | thiago | BCMM: "user" |
| 17:17.39 | thiago | BCMM: why don't you leave it mounted? |
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| 17:18.17 | locker | DaSkreech, are you there? |
| 17:18.49 | DaSkreech | locker: You can't login? |
| 17:18.56 | DaSkreech | Where are you logging into? |
| 17:19.21 | locker | MSN |
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| 17:22.19 | locker | ? |
| 17:23.02 | tuxick | ! |
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| 17:24.58 | nick01 | I'm on vlos and they done weird things to the taskbar- how do I get a default taskbar again and remove the customizations ? |
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| 17:25.46 | Dr_willis | I would have to suggest ask the VLOS guys |
| 17:25.51 | DaSkreech | locker: I think MSN works in kopee |
| 17:25.59 | DaSkreech | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:26.05 | nick01 | Dr_willis, I asked they have no clue |
| 17:26.40 | stdin | nick01: ask in #vlos |
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| 17:26.53 | nick01 | stdin, already done that |
| 17:26.53 | stdin | or have you ? |
| 17:26.55 | Dr_willis | nick01, thats a sign that you may want to consider other disrtos :) |
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| 17:27.11 | nick01 | Dr_willis, :/ |
| 17:27.33 | locker | I am not sure, sorry, i am new user in SUSE |
| 17:28.08 | locker | i am trying to down a new version of GIAM |
| 17:28.09 | locker | thx |
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| 17:28.21 | DaSkreech | locker: Ok open Kopete and there should be a version under Help menu |
| 17:28.30 | Dr_willis | nick01, could make a new user.. remove their .kde dir and see if it defaults to some normal defaults.. Kubuntu i think has some packages that setup a more 'normal/default' kde setup |
| 17:28.43 | Dr_willis | nick01, or just start removing stuff from the panel. |
| 17:29.02 | Dr_willis | i got no idea what vlos has done. i think thats a disrto i tried... and screamed and ran away from. |
| 17:29.07 | locker | DaSkreech, 3.4.2 |
| 17:29.18 | nick01 | Dr_willis, problem is not what the added its that the k menu icons is too close to the konqueror one |
| 17:29.19 | locker | what's current? |
| 17:29.24 | DaSkreech | locker: I think that' KDE :) |
| 17:29.35 | nick01 | they* |
| 17:29.37 | DaSkreech | locker: There should be about Kopete one above that :) |
| 17:29.46 | locker | 0.10.3 |
| 17:29.47 | Dr_willis | nick01, drag the icon over? |
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| 17:29.53 | locker | i mistake |
| 17:30.12 | nick01 | Dr_willis, there is no space between them - I can't drag it anywhere |
| 17:30.41 | DaSkreech | locker: Current is 0.12.3 |
| 17:30.45 | Dr_willis | nick01, this is the kind of thing thats hard to describe/troubbleshoot. :) cant just middle click on an icon and drag somthing way to the side eh? |
| 17:30.49 | DaSkreech | locker: Which suse? |
| 17:31.08 | locker | 10.0 |
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| 17:31.20 | locker | i don't think it's latest |
| 17:32.17 | nick01 | Dr_willis, in normal kde there are a fe millimeters between k and konqueror icons here there is no space |
| 17:32.51 | Dr_willis | nick01, if i can see an icon on the taskbar i can middle click and drag it over.. ya could just start removing some of the icons and see what happens. |
| 17:33.01 | Dr_willis | err an icon in the kicker i mean. :) |
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| 17:33.34 | Vegeta^ | When I plugged an USB memory key in my computer, it could be automatically detected and could be accessed as normal user, but now it needs a root user to mount and acces it and be able to copy/write to it. How can I change it back to the way it was before? |
| 17:33.39 | Dr_willis | could twiddle with the kicker size settings also.. may make everythign refresh/spread out |
| 17:34.42 | Dr_willis | Vegeta^, that may be more disrtobution specific then kde specific question. Its possible however that your fstab entrys need tweaked. or commented out. |
| 17:35.49 | DaSkreech | locker: No open suse 10.2 is the latest. |
| 17:36.05 | Vegeta^ | Dr_willis: Well the problem started when I closed the loading window that appears when the device is plugged in, think it is loading about mounting. Therefor I thought that maybe others have had the same problem om KDE? |
| 17:36.08 | DaSkreech | locker: You may want to join #opensuse and see about updating |
| 17:36.13 | nick01 | Dr_willis, I'll restart kde see what happens after I finish recompiling the kernel |
| 17:36.22 | locker | DaSkreech |
| 17:36.27 | DaSkreech | Si? |
| 17:36.33 | locker | Thank u so mcuh |
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| 17:43.23 | MrGrim | http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=51493 |
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| 17:48.17 | Tm_T | PhilFood: Hmm, new fastfood chain? |
| 17:51.11 | KRF | how can i find out what picture kmix e.g. uses for its systray icon? |
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| 17:51.55 | DaSkreech | KRF: Code I guess |
| 17:52.24 | KRF | because strace doesn't give me any paths to pictures |
| 17:52.37 | KRF | hm |
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| 17:54.05 | DaSkreech | MrGrim: Wow |
| 17:54.30 | KRF | DaSkreech, thx. that's easier ;) |
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| 18:10.17 | grendal_prime | ok two files in my trashcan with the exact same name,'kqemu-1.3.0pre9' that i cannot delete?? |
| 18:10.31 | grendal_prime | make any sence? |
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| 18:12.36 | Fenix-Dark | hi |
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| 18:13.27 | Fenix-Dark | i just downloaded a kde icon theme, and i applied it, but only a few of the icons are being used, so i have to manually set the new icon images. i have one that i want to apply to all .zip files, how would i do that? |
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| 18:23.49 | XVampireX | Fenix-Dark: Restart X |
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| 18:25.43 | nick01 | how do I prevent programs from being stacked one on top of another on kicker ? it does that even though there are only a few open |
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| 18:27.35 | Fenix-Dark | XVampireX, ok |
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| 18:30.18 | Goliath23 | how do I prevent KDE from creating trash-folders on my mobile usb mass storage? |
| 18:30.59 | Goliath23 | additionally it seems the "remove secure" option doesn't work properly |
| 18:31.08 | Goliath23 | especially if I copied larger files. |
| 18:31.25 | Goliath23 | distribution is kubuntu 6.10 - anyone else with the same experience? |
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| 18:31.55 | Fenix-Dark | XVampireX, i restarted my computer, and it still didnt enable all of the icons in the theme |
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| 18:39.05 | XVampireX | Fenix-Dark: Are you sure it has more icons? |
| 18:39.19 | Fenix-Dark | it has like 200+ icons |
| 18:39.22 | XVampireX | Might have downloaded just a part of it |
| 18:39.27 | Fenix-Dark | i've been setting them individually |
| 18:41.26 | Fenix-Dark | it set the folder icon, but its wierd, it lists the folders in say knonquoror, but they're using the old icon on the left part, but on my desktop and the right part it uses the newly set folder icon |
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| 18:42.37 | Fenix-Dark | i know its no big deal, but some of the default kde icons suck lol |
| 18:42.46 | Fenix-Dark | the home one and folder ones are especially terrible |
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| 18:43.59 | XVampireX | Fenix-Dark: reload the icon set |
| 18:44.04 | Fenix-Dark | alright |
| 18:44.30 | XVampireX | Maybe the naming is not right |
| 18:44.45 | XVampireX | No idea how these icons work though |
| 18:44.49 | Fenix-Dark | yea, thats possible |
| 18:44.54 | XVampireX | What icon set? |
| 18:45.09 | Fenix-Dark | OSDark0K |
| 18:45.10 | Fenix-Dark | err |
| 18:45.14 | Fenix-Dark | OSDark-k |
| 18:45.53 | Fenix-Dark | http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=48547 |
| 18:45.59 | XVampireX | It's old :P |
| 18:46.16 | Fenix-Dark | yea, but it goes very well with my red-ish theme |
| 18:46.40 | XVampireX | True, these icons are red :P |
| 18:47.38 | XVampireX | kde-apps and kde-look seemed to have stalled |
| 18:47.42 | XVampireX | very few updates lately |
| 18:48.00 | Fenix-Dark | i never bothered with kde-apps |
| 18:48.11 | Fenix-Dark | i usually end up just getting a slackware binary |
| 18:48.45 | XVampireX | Well |
| 18:48.56 | XVampireX | I need a decent website that has some nice apps |
| 18:49.01 | XVampireX | and kde-apps served my needs for a while |
| 18:49.12 | XVampireX | And it seems like no one develops any themes anymore |
| 18:49.20 | Fenix-Dark | yea :( |
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| 18:50.33 | Fenix-Dark | actually there's a decent amount of newly added themes |
| 18:51.16 | XVampireX | But are they decent? :) |
| 18:51.17 | Fenix-Dark | most of them look kinda cheezy, but they're new none the less |
| 18:51.19 | Fenix-Dark | heh |
| 18:52.52 | Fenix-Dark | i think i should go back to gentoo, i wouldn't have this problem because i'd still be spending my time getting other nonsense like audio and 3d hardware accelleration working |
| 18:54.09 | XVampireX | I think gtk themes are pretty |
| 18:54.26 | XVampireX | Gentoo you gotta setup alot too |
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| 18:54.48 | Fenix-Dark | i'm using the Universe Crimson 1.1.1 theme |
| 18:55.09 | Fenix-Dark | yea i know, i used it for a while and never had it working 100% |
| 18:55.15 | Fenix-Dark | not even 80% for that matter |
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| 18:58.27 | XVampireX | Fenix-Dark: try Sabayon linux |
| 18:59.05 | XVampireX | http://www.sabayonlinux.org/ |
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| 19:01.27 | Sho_ | best app ever: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=51493 |
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| 19:01.35 | [GALAXY] | anyone here familar with truecrypt ? |
| 19:01.42 | [GALAXY] | Sho_: heya.. thanks for accepting me as contact |
| 19:03.02 | Fenix-Dark | XVampireX, i'm using slackware atm, and all is well, thats why i'm putzing around with kde themes & icons |
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| 19:07.29 | McEnroe | does anybody know how to integrade pam_usb into kde? |
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| 19:09.49 | XVampireX | I thought slackware package management was rather weird |
| 19:10.01 | XVampireX | More like windows |
| 19:10.03 | DaSkreech | annma: How was dinner? |
| 19:10.12 | Bittin | XVampireX: Suse is that also :P |
| 19:10.19 | annma | excellent thanks |
| 19:11.39 | Fenix-Dark | XVampireX, it doesnt touch dependencies at all, so i guess its "wierd" in that mannor, but you dl the .tgz package you want to install or update, and to 'installpkg filename.tgz' or 'upgradepkg filename.tgz' |
| 19:11.52 | Fenix-Dark | and its installed |
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| 19:20.56 | nightwatch | hi there, I m using kopete as msn agent , but there's no sound ... I use amarok with no problems, than I think the problem should be in kopete, any advice to fix it? |
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| 19:23.31 | DaSkreech | annma: Looked at the site? |
| 19:23.44 | annma | the knoware? |
| 19:24.03 | annma | nightwatch: is there a specific sound setting in kopete? |
| 19:24.23 | Bittin | annma: it is :) |
| 19:24.42 | annma | nightwatch: then look in kopete options |
| 19:24.54 | nightwatch | no, theres no tab for sound although there is one for my webcam ( its working, by the way ) |
| 19:25.18 | DaSkreech | annma: Yup |
| 19:25.26 | annma | Bittin: where is it? |
| 19:25.35 | annma | DaSkreech: but was it worked on? |
| 19:25.42 | Bittin | annma: in Kopete Settings in KDE :O |
| 19:25.49 | annma | is knoware somewhere in kde svn? |
| 19:25.54 | DaSkreech | annma: coolo would know |
| 19:25.56 | annma | Bittin: more precisely? |
| 19:26.12 | Bittin | annma: right click on the icon :D |
| 19:26.13 | annma | it's too early for doc I htink |
| 19:26.20 | DaSkreech | annma: Yes it is |
| 19:26.22 | annma | Bittin: it's not for me!!!! |
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| 19:26.35 | Bittin | annma: Then Configure |
| 19:26.40 | annma | Bittin: <nightwatch> no, theres no tab for sound although there is one for my webcam ( its working, by the way ) |
| 19:26.50 | annma | Bittin: it's for nightwatch |
| 19:27.01 | annma | i don't use kopete myself |
| 19:27.07 | Bittin | annma: ok |
| 19:27.19 | Bittin | nightwatch: settings on icon :) |
| 19:27.22 | annma | nightwatch: see the matter with Bittin please |
| 19:27.23 | DaSkreech | annma: it's near working :) |
| 19:27.42 | Bittin | But i use kopete :) |
| 19:27.43 | annma | :) |
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| 19:34.31 | nightwatch | kopete can do conference? |
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| 19:35.33 | Bittin | nightwatch: yes :) |
| 19:36.19 | nightwatch | good, I just have to make it work then :P |
| 19:36.32 | Bittin | nightwatch: what distro u got? |
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| 19:36.40 | nightwatch | ubuntu / kubuntu |
| 19:36.43 | nightwatch | edgy |
| 19:37.59 | DaSkreech | annma: knoware sounds cool eh? |
| 19:38.06 | annma | yes! |
| 19:38.40 | Bittin | nightwatch: ok i got Open Suse 10.2 so can't help? |
| 19:38.40 | nightwatch | weird... theres no button for start voice conversation |
| 19:38.46 | Bittin | Try install it with Syntapics? |
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| 19:39.19 | Bittin | nightwatch: its are no voice? |
| 19:39.20 | nightwatch | yes, I used adept ( front end for apt ) |
| 19:39.24 | Bittin | ok |
| 19:39.24 | DaSkreech | annma: I keep trying to get the Guy who started it to respond but I'm noutta the SOC so I guess I'll get no response |
| 19:39.24 | Bittin | :D |
| 19:39.25 | nightwatch | yes |
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| 19:39.42 | DaSkreech | annma: Basically it just needs some documentaiton from wehre it is to have someone else take it over |
| 19:39.44 | Bittin | nightwatch: but u can add more ppl to chat with :D |
| 19:39.50 | annma | DaSkreech: :( |
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| 19:39.54 | DaSkreech | I'd suspect that we would need the origianl coder |
| 19:40.20 | DaSkreech | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:40.29 | DaSkreech | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:40.41 | nightwatch | yes, I can chat, I can send webcam... |
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| 19:42.19 | annma | DaSkreech: ;) surely not |
| 19:42.37 | DaSkreech | Plus it would kick MS Vista butt :) |
| 19:42.49 | annma | lol |
| 19:43.26 | XVampireX | Huh? |
| 19:43.47 | XVampireX | [21:41] <DaSkreech> Plus it would kick MS Vista butt :) |
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| 19:44.00 | DaSkreech | Huh? |
| 19:44.13 | DaSkreech | [14:49] <XVampireX> [21:41] <DaSkreech> Plus it would kick MS Vista butt :) |
| 19:44.39 | XVampireX | 1. What would and 2. What the heck? and 3. It's not about kicking its ass, it's about kicking its users heads to put some sense back to them |
| 19:45.10 | DaSkreech | XVampireX: Scroll up about 4 hours |
| 19:45.14 | DaSkreech | :-) |
| 19:45.38 | DaSkreech | XVampireX: http://developer.kde.org/summerofcode/knoware.html |
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| 19:47.37 | XVampireX | Only if knoware is well integrated |
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| 19:48.26 | _javier_ | hi |
| 19:48.32 | superstition | my kded crashes on working with media:// |
| 19:48.34 | superstition | kded: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libsvnqt.so.3: undefined symbol: svn_client_info |
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| 19:49.17 | nightwatch | Bittin: I tried to receive a calling from a friend and kopete said that it is not implemented :( |
| 19:49.29 | superstition | how can i find the module using this lib |
| 19:50.03 | Bittin | nightwatch: ok some problems? |
| 19:50.03 | annma | superstition: distro? |
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| 19:50.07 | superstition | fc6 |
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| 19:50.46 | superstition | KDE: 3.5.5-0.2.fc6 Fedora-Core |
| 19:51.08 | annma | ask them |
| 19:51.20 | annma | something wrong |
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| 19:52.04 | ali_ | I am not able to open java applets in konqueror. the java vm is installed |
| 19:52.18 | ali_ | how can I resolve the problem |
| 19:52.40 | annma | does konqueror find the java binary? |
| 19:52.48 | ali_ | yes |
| 19:53.12 | annma | are you sure your java bin is OK? |
| 19:53.17 | ali_ | it starts downloading the applet then it failed to lounch it |
| 19:53.23 | annma | why wouln't it work then?* |
| 19:53.27 | ali_ | yes |
| 19:53.33 | annma | all pages? |
| 19:53.48 | ali_ | no idea |
| 19:53.49 | annma | example? |
| 19:54.06 | ali_ | where can I post screen shot |
| 19:55.03 | annma | past e alink with a java applet that doe snot work for you |
| 19:55.24 | ali_ | http://www.dailyfx.com/charts/Chart.html |
| 19:57.12 | ali_ | it fails to start after downloading the java applet?! |
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| 20:04.32 | smileaf | ali_: I get a backtrace saying access denied to something, and then one for a Null pointer Exception. So it looks more like the applet was written poorly. |
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| 20:05.07 | annma | I cannot load the page totally |
| 20:05.28 | annma | ali_: another example? |
| 20:05.32 | ali_ | wierd it works on firefox |
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| 20:05.51 | ali_ | i am using suse 10.2 |
| 20:05.55 | smileaf | firefox must allow access to that browser property. |
| 20:06.05 | annma | ali_: another example? |
| 20:06.20 | annma | you said java does not work at all or only in some applets? |
| 20:06.32 | benJIman | have you installed java? |
| 20:06.35 | smileaf | http://rafb.net/p/NQIEwD63.html <-- the applet's error. |
| 20:06.52 | benJIman | you can adjust the security console |
| 20:06.54 | ali_ | I have not tried it on many pages using konqueror. |
| 20:07.05 | ali_ | but in firefox it works with all pages |
| 20:07.10 | benJIman | konqueror's security manager is considerably more strict than the plugin for firefox |
| 20:07.13 | ali_ | konqueror is having problem |
| 20:07.26 | benJIman | no, the security manager is not allowing the applet to load |
| 20:07.31 | annma | ali_: does your java wotk on some applets? |
| 20:07.37 | annma | or on none? |
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| 20:08.06 | smileaf | benJIman: curious, where do you adjust that? |
| 20:08.07 | benJIman | ali_: if you settings -> configure konqueror -> java & javascript -> uncheck "use security manager" it will probably work, but not a very secure solution |
| 20:08.21 | benJIman | I thought there was a per-domain setting, maybe not |
| 20:08.21 | Kasyx | Anyone using kopete with tor? |
| 20:08.23 | ali_ | I think none, as I said I have not tried it with many pages. Only this page I gave |
| 20:08.25 | ali_ | to you |
| 20:09.30 | smileaf | benJIman: perhaps thats a todo for kde4? :) |
| 20:09.37 | benJIman | qlooks like it's broken anyway "java.lang.NumberFormatException: For input string: " F" |
| 20:09.59 | ali_ | I am trying that right now |
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| 20:11.59 | ali_ | same problem |
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| 20:13.05 | benJIman | ali_: no, not the same problem, there's actually a problem with the applet once you disable the security manager |
| 20:13.08 | mattjeet | hi all! i'm looking for the icon zoom option for kicker in the control panel. i've searched through the "Look and Feel' screen but I can't find it |
| 20:13.15 | benJIman | It doesn't work in firefox here either (java6) |
| 20:13.24 | benJIman | mattjeet: it was removed in 3.4 |
| 20:13.36 | DaSkreech | XVampireX: How well integrated? |
| 20:13.50 | mattjeet | benJIman: ohhhhh |
| 20:13.54 | ali_ | I have disabled it but I am getting same error |
| 20:14.06 | benJIman | ali_: you need to restart konqueror for that to take effectr |
| 20:14.18 | ali_ | the path to java executable setting in my konqueror is '/usr/lib/jvm/jre/bin/java' |
| 20:14.42 | _Sketch_ | Does anyone here use an alternate "input method" of any kind? I'm trying to find one that...works. Simply. Scim/Skim has failed me.. |
| 20:14.51 | benJIman | that should be fine using 32bit java |
| 20:14.58 | benJIman | /usr/bin/java would work equally well |
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| 20:16.26 | benJIman | ali_: actually that doesn't look like sun's, you have installed sun's java right? |
| 20:16.48 | ali_ | yes |
| 20:17.02 | benJIman | ok then |
| 20:17.31 | annma | there are some test applets on Sun site iirc |
| 20:17.50 | benJIman | There's something broken in that one anyway |
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| 20:18.34 | ali_ | annma: can you give me good working applet page to test |
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| 20:18.49 | annma | look at Sun website |
| 20:19.12 | annma | at the moment my connection is so slow I cannot open pages quickly |
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| 20:19.49 | Kyral | He stupid question |
| 20:19.55 | Kyral | but what is "Disconnected IMAP"? |
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| 20:20.58 | smileaf | IMAP .. but cached. |
| 20:22.06 | Kasyx | Is there anyway to make kopete us the tor proxy I have setup for IM? It works with gaim, but I can't see where to add a specific port to kopete, nor can I see where to add the option in kcontrol |
| 20:22.06 | Kyral | ...so instead of staying connected it connects, downloads mail, and disconnects? |
| 20:22.06 | smileaf | Kyral: pretty much. |
| 20:22.07 | Kyral | smileaf: K, thats what I thought, just wanted to make sure :P |
| 20:25.38 | ali_ | annma: you are right: the sun's test page for java vm works fine in my konqueror |
| 20:26.20 | annma | :) |
| 20:26.28 | annma | excellent |
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| 20:47.11 | Kyral | Yea! Aquamarine Window Decorator for Beryl *wishes he knew about it earlier* |
| 20:47.22 | Kasyx | Awful, awful decorator. |
| 20:47.27 | Kasyx | It Breaks (tm) |
| 20:47.44 | Kyral | ...Beryl breaks period :P |
| 20:48.07 | Kasyx | Not that I've found |
| 20:48.32 | Kasyx | For some reason it keeps putting stuff into .beryl-managerrc that means it failsafes, but deleting the file sorts it |
| 20:48.34 | Kyral | yea good point |
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| 20:50.14 | Kasyx | Anyone know how I can make KDE apps use SOCKS5 proxies? |
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| 20:52.24 | rabauke | Hello! Why are filters in kmail not applied when checking an IMAP account and new mail arrives, but they are if one clicks on "Check mail in this folder" from the context-menu of the inbox? |
| 20:53.44 | XVampireX | DaSkreech: What? |
| 20:53.56 | DaSkreech | You were saying it would need to be integrated |
| 20:53.58 | DaSkreech | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:54.32 | XVampireX | So it would be easy to give and get feedback |
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| 21:02.17 | edeca | In order for screen rotation to work and control center to offer me the options, what should be installed? I have xrandr and a meamodes line in xorg.conf |
| 21:03.14 | edeca | And what do I need in order to get the 'keyboard' configuration panel under Peripherals? |
| 21:03.48 | annma | edeca: what distro? |
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| 21:05.25 | edeca | annma: Gentoo, using the split ebuilds |
| 21:05.33 | annma | well then |
| 21:05.35 | edeca | annma: What's infuriating is all the things that don't work, work on another machine ;) |
| 21:05.36 | annma | there you are |
| 21:05.42 | edeca | annma: Sorry? "There you are"? |
| 21:05.49 | annma | KDE ships kdebase as a WHOLE package |
| 21:06.09 | annma | KDE does not split kdebase |
| 21:06.16 | annma | you might want ask in #gentoo |
| 21:06.31 | edeca | Ta |
| 21:06.34 | annma | I have no idea how they name their packs |
| 21:06.38 | smileaf | edeca: always install kdebase-meta it makes life so much easier. I'm not even sure why they split that one up to begin with. |
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| 21:08.34 | Kyral | I love that Beryl can crank at 100+ FPS on my aging machine |
| 21:09.03 | smileaf | I love kwin just is so awesome =p |
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| 21:09.21 | Kyral | lol |
| 21:09.36 | Kyral | Yea I drop back to KWin at night when I'm not using my machine |
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| 21:09.52 | Kyral | No need to have eyecandy active if I'm not awake to view said eyecandy :D |
| 21:10.29 | smileaf | I figure if your going to do that might as well shutdown or logout.. no use having a running session if your not going to use it ;) |
| 21:10.33 | qupada | your logic astounds me |
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| 21:12.39 | inimesekene | hello |
| 21:13.10 | Kyral | smileaf: I need the white noise from the fans to sleep :P |
| 21:13.16 | Kyral | You know you are a geek when.... |
| 21:13.29 | DaSkreech | XVampireX: What makes you think that it is not? |
| 21:13.29 | smileaf | haha.. I know what you mean :) |
| 21:13.34 | inimesekene | a minor issue... i selected the pager to show desktop wallpaper, but it only shows one, the others look like "elegant" |
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| 21:14.14 | edeca | So does beryl replace the KDE window managaer? |
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| 21:14.30 | Kyral | edeca: Yah |
| 21:14.30 | XVampireX | DaSkreech: Is it implemented already? |
| 21:14.39 | DaSkreech | XVampireX: Umm. It's coded :) |
| 21:14.45 | edeca | Kyral: But you can use it within KDE instead of KWin? Or instead of KDE completely? |
| 21:14.52 | Kyral | edeca: but it has nice Right Click menu in the system tray that allows you to switch back and forth |
| 21:14.57 | Kyral | edeca: It replace KWin |
| 21:14.58 | DaSkreech | I'm not sure if that == implemented :) |
| 21:14.59 | Kyral | not KDE |
| 21:15.00 | qupada | Kyral: it replaces kwin entirely |
| 21:15.08 | Kyral | qupada: I know that! |
| 21:15.09 | XVampireX | DaSkreech: Implemented is when you can use it |
| 21:15.15 | edeca | Thanks. |
| 21:15.19 | DaSkreech | XVampireX: Then no :) |
| 21:15.24 | edeca | I've just got composite working well, that's enough for me :) |
| 21:15.27 | qupada | Kyral: meh, i didn't sleep. tab complete going screwy |
| 21:15.37 | Kyral | lol |
| 21:15.50 | Kyral | Tab completion. A double edged sword |
| 21:15.52 | edeca | However screen rotation doesn't work and xrandr doesn't seem to know about rotations either |
| 21:16.02 | qupada | sleep-deprivation also |
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| 21:21.40 | M_Fatih | hi everybody.. |
| 21:22.30 | M_Fatih | i want to hide sidebars in quanta.. i can't find where i do that.. i want to hide these : http://imaj.at/5923 how can i do that? |
| 21:23.50 | pinotree | M_Fatih: i'm not sure it's possible |
| 21:23.59 | smileaf | I'm not sure why you would want to. |
| 21:24.04 | M_Fatih | but :( i want to hide |
| 21:24.44 | DaSkreech | XVampireX: Which is where I'm trying to get it to |
| 21:25.06 | M_Fatih | i don't want to use these and make clean work desktop :) |
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| 21:34.44 | Maccco | HI! I noticed that center-clicking a link in konqueror opens a new window. Is it possible to open a tab with the same behaviour? |
| 21:35.19 | Pinaraf | Maccco: yes, it's in the web settings |
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| 21:36.06 | Maccco | Pinaraf, thanks I searched for it many times |
| 21:36.27 | Maccco | and didn't find nothing. Maybe the description is not so clear |
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| 21:54.12 | mattjeet | hey KDE folk! is there an autohide for systray on the kicker panel? |
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| 21:54.48 | Tm_T | mattjeet: Haven't seen that ever, so I'd say 'no'. |
| 21:55.44 | DreamForce | mattjeet: you mean systray icons that autohide after a while? |
| 21:55.59 | mattjeet | DreamForce: yes! |
| 21:56.08 | DreamForce | mattjeet: yes, that's possible |
| 21:56.14 | mattjeet | DreamForce: ohhhhhhhhhhh! |
| 21:56.15 | mattjeet | <3 |
| 21:57.16 | mattjeet | i'm starting to absolutely love kde (coming from fluxbox/windowmaker for many years) but sometimes i get lost in all the options :) |
| 21:57.19 | DreamForce | mattjeet: click on the systray-grip (to the left), in the popup click on "configure systray" and select what should be auto-hided |
| 21:57.53 | Tm_T | DreamForce: That's prolly not what he's looking for, it's not "autohide" really. |
| 21:58.05 | mattjeet | no, but that's better than before for sure :) |
| 21:58.05 | Tm_T | Good feature nevertheless. |
| 21:58.06 | mattjeet | lol |
| 21:58.33 | mattjeet | for instance, if i hide the KOrganizer Reminder Daemon, it'll probably still remind me |
| 21:58.34 | mattjeet | lol |
| 21:58.42 | sredna | mattjeet: There is. |
| 21:58.43 | mattjeet | Tm_T: no doubt |
| 21:59.06 | mattjeet | sredna: you had me at hello |
| 21:59.07 | DreamForce | Tm_T: in my opinion it is auto-hiding. i can make the icon appear by clicking on the arrow and after a while those icons disappear automatically |
| 21:59.14 | mattjeet | oh |
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| 21:59.32 | benJIman | Wow someone who actually likes autohiding |
| 21:59.33 | Tm_T | DreamForce: Well, it doesn't auto-hide idle icons. |
| 21:59.54 | DreamForce | Tm_T: that's true |
| 22:00.10 | mattjeet | this works perfect! thanks DreamForce |
| 22:00.20 | mattjeet | that was to easy lol. i missed it |
| 22:00.26 | Tm_T | Yup, I like to think it more as autofolding. |
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| 22:01.03 | Tm_T | Fold selected items to background hidden when not needed. |
| 22:01.08 | mattjeet | brilliant! |
| 22:01.09 | mattjeet | lol |
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| 22:01.38 | _javier | hi |
| 22:02.11 | mattjeet | any of you going to be at the KDE booth at SCALE in Los Angeles, CA next month? |
| 22:02.16 | sredna | Hi _javier |
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| 22:02.56 | _javier | hi sredna |
| 22:03.45 | _javier | how are you |
| 22:04.28 | sredna | Fine thank you. And you? |
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| 22:04.44 | _javier | hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii |
| 22:04.45 | sredna | Fine thank you. And you? |
| 22:05.01 | _javier | where are you from? |
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| 22:08.36 | _javier | sredna?'''''''''' |
| 22:10.49 | _javier | are someone here???????????????? |
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| 22:13.24 | sredna | _javier: If you have KDE related questions ;) |
| 22:13.24 | _javier | anyone speak spanish?¿????????????????????????????????????????????? |
| 22:13.48 | mc__ | !es |
| 22:13.54 | pinotree | _javier: no, just english |
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| 22:24.58 | DrNickRiviera | i'm running kubuntu dapper drake and when i change the graphics card in the display setting from vesa to the matrox g450 which it correctly recognises i get the message that it cannot be safely tested |
| 22:25.24 | DrNickRiviera | does this mean i might have a problem if i try to set it to that |
| 22:25.53 | DrNickRiviera | the apply button is also greyed out and i can only commit the change if i also change what monitor i am currently using |
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| 22:28.24 | johnny69 | Is there a way to keep Kwebdesktop from "tiling" an image across the screen? Noting in the display control panel affects this behavior it seems. |
| 22:28.36 | johnny69 | errr, noting = nothing. |
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| 22:30.20 | canllaith | moin |
| 22:30.22 | canllaith | hey PhilRod |
| 22:30.31 | DaSkreech | canllaith! |
| 22:30.41 | canllaith | hey DaSkreech :) |
| 22:30.57 | PhilRod | hiya canllaith :-) |
| 22:31.20 | PhilRod | it has a dvd drive now! :-) |
| 22:31.37 | canllaith | cool :0 |
| 22:31.38 | canllaith | :) * |
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| 22:42.09 | PhilRod | canllaith: how're you? |
| 22:42.17 | canllaith | good : |
| 22:42.19 | canllaith | :) |
| 22:42.30 | canllaith | bit sleepy, just woke up |
| 22:42.52 | PhilRod | hehe, I still find time differences funny :-) |
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| 22:49.30 | pavi | while compiling Qt from source i got the error as The QtDBus module cannot be enabled because libdbus-1 version 0.62 was not found |
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| 22:56.29 | nick01 | what's the name of the menu update tool ? |
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| 22:57.15 | g-henna | hi everyone! |
| 22:57.29 | g-henna | how can i, in kontact, enable "do you really want to..." boxes once i disabled them? |
| 22:57.44 | g-henna | namely, the "really send email?" message on ctrl+enter |
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| 22:58.07 | _Sketch_ | Is there a place to search for applets for KDE? (Are they called applets?) |
| 22:59.01 | Sho_ | _Sketch_: www.kde-look.org |
| 22:59.05 | Sho_ | & www.kde-apps.org |
| 23:01.57 | _Sketch_ | Apparently what I'm looking for no longer exists. Odd. There's no systray applet for UIM? |
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| 23:03.48 | _Sketch_ | Really? I could never get Skim working.. |
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| 23:04.42 | _Sketch_ | What distro, what manual, Sho_? |
| 23:04.50 | sammy | this is probably a silly question: I'm noticing many of my applications have formatting editors built in, font sizes and decorations and the like, but these are implemented per-application, correct? the KATE doesn't have any sort of rich text editing, as far as I can see? for rtf in kde it looks like my choice is kword? |
| 23:06.04 | sammy | I was just looking for a very simple kde rich text editor, and since I'm using kde, I might as well use kword instead of ted, but I was hoping there was something a little less involved, I don't need much. also, anyone using yzis? |
| 23:07.11 | _Sketch_ | I usually use OpenOffice.. Heh. |
| 23:08.42 | wolsni | sammy: I don't think there's a simpler WYSIWYG editor for KDE |
| 23:08.53 | Kasyx | Is there anyway to get SOCKS5 proxy support in KDE? |
| 23:09.01 | wolsni | sammy: are you having any particular troubles with KWord? |
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| 23:11.50 | sammy | wolsni: no no, I'm sure it's superfantastic, I was just looking for something very plain and simple, and I'm expecting kword to be 100x more than I need. fwiw, I don't think there's a simple wysiwyg editor for X, period, unless ted is pretty simple. |
| 23:12.37 | sammy | and, yeah, openoffice is the same way. this is a dinky p3 733, and I tend to try to do too many thigns at once, so anything but simple applications have to be run by themeslves or I get to sit around and wait for windows to redraw :) |
| 23:13.08 | wolsni | sammy: KWord is a lot faster than OO.o Writer in my experience |
| 23:13.18 | wolsni | especially if you're already using other KDE apps |
| 23:13.26 | sammy | I might end up getting the binary version of OO and see if it runs smoothly enough, but last time I used it, it was quite the bohemoth. more than I need for simple rich text editing, anyway. |
| 23:13.35 | sammy | *nod* I'm sure with shared libraries and such that kword will work okay |
| 23:14.20 | Liquid_Fire | kword is ultra-fast compared to openoffice |
| 23:14.38 | sammy | huzzah! two speed endorsements. *emerges kword* |
| 23:15.24 | sammy | does the kopete text input box follow the default KDE editor preference? |
| 23:15.37 | sammy | he says, trying to glean some quick kde knowledge before he goes |
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| 23:16.42 | Kasyx | There are some internal options for fonts |
| 23:16.44 | Liquid_Fire | don't think so.. would be funny to have syntax highlighting for your IM messages, though :) |
| 23:16.45 | pavi | Hi all |
| 23:16.50 | Kasyx | But it takes the default from KDE |
| 23:16.57 | pavi | I am installing KDE from source |
| 23:17.04 | Kasyx | pavi: good man! |
| 23:17.11 | pavi | but I have to build Qt |
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| 23:17.22 | sammy | well it's not so much the syntax highlighting I want, just the vi keybindings |
| 23:17.24 | pavi | I am failing as it needed libdbus |
| 23:17.26 | n3kl | What is a good wireless manager for kde? |
| 23:17.43 | pavi | And libdbus is already installed in my system |
| 23:17.57 | sammy | I'm noticing that after 10 years, I'm much quicker at editing with keybindings than using the mouse for most operations, and now I'm installing yzis to get them in any kde app that uses the control-center chosen editor |
| 23:17.59 | pinotree | pavi: devel package too? |
| 23:18.08 | Kasyx | n3kl: kwifimanager |
| 23:18.14 | pavi | can anyone tell me how to make the configure script to look for the libdbus |
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| 23:18.32 | pavi | pinotree what is the name of the devel package |
| 23:18.50 | pinotree | depend son your distro, of course (if your distro have them) |
| 23:19.04 | Liquid_Fire | btw, why do all the projects to make a KDE vim gui get abandoned? it would be awesome to be able to use kdevelop with vim as the editor |
| 23:19.24 | pavi | I am in debian |
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| 23:19.31 | pavi | and I aptgetted for dbus |
| 23:19.34 | pavi | I got it |
| 23:19.44 | n3kl | Kasyx: wpa capable? |
| 23:19.54 | pavi | but now while installing Qt it couldnt find the installed libdbus |
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| 23:20.09 | Kasyx | n3kl: I think it has wpa_supplicant as a dep |
| 23:20.50 | sammy | LiquidNerd__: yzis seems to be in development as a separate vi-style editor for kde, but with the necessary kpart just for what you're talking about. but I agree, I spent hours last night to find out that the vim editors for kde had died out. |
| 23:21.41 | Liquid_Fire | well, a short while ago i had tried a version of yzis, but it was extremely buggy and unstable |
| 23:21.49 | Liquid_Fire | maybe i should check on how it is currently |
| 23:21.51 | pavi | pinotree what do I do ? |
| 23:22.10 | pinotree | pavi: as in the right channel for distro support |
| 23:22.20 | sammy | Liquid_Fire: (whoops, wrong autocomplete before :) let me know if it hasn't progressed much so I can save my time |
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| 23:23.08 | Liquid_Fire | that will be a task for tomorrow, though.. really getting late |
| 23:23.15 | Liquid_Fire | good night, all |
| 23:23.34 | pavi | pinotree it has nothing to do with distro ... can u tell me should I modify the qt's configure script to change the path it looks for dbus? |
| 23:24.12 | pinotree | pavi: it won't find your dbus if you have no headers nor libraries for compiling |
| 23:24.34 | pinotree | there's nothing in Qt's configure to change |
| 23:24.38 | pavi | ok so shall I download a tar and again install libdbus ? |
| 23:24.52 | pinotree | dude |
| 23:24.58 | pinotree | use your distro packages |
| 23:25.18 | pinotree | search for them, usually they end with -devel or -dev |
| 23:25.23 | pavi | ok |
| 23:25.26 | pavi | will search |
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| 23:28.52 | canllaith | hey pinotree |
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| 23:29.11 | pinotree | heya canllaith, how's going? |
| 23:29.22 | canllaith | good :) |
| 23:29.36 | pinotree | nice nice :) |
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| 23:31.21 | segfault | hi :) |
| 23:31.28 | segfault | someone know how can i embed a konsole in konqueror |
| 23:31.30 | g-henna | how can i, in kontact, enable "do you really want to..." boxes once i disabled them? -- namely, the "really send email?" message on ctrl+enter |
| 23:31.52 | wolsni | segfault: look on the window menu |
| 23:31.59 | wolsni | 'show terminal emulator' |
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| 23:32.00 | segfault | i dont have it in kubuntu :( |
| 23:32.07 | segfault | thats why i ask |
| 23:32.08 | segfault | :( |
| 23:32.48 | wolsni | segfault: ah, you can do something to get back the normal menus (don't ask me what) but I believe you can also access it by binding a keyboard shortcut to it |
| 23:33.22 | segfault | lemme check |
| 23:33.23 | wolsni | that is, 'show terminal emulator' should be an available option in the shortcut editor |
| 23:33.55 | segfault | f8 |
| 23:33.56 | segfault | oin here |
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| 23:37.37 | canllaith | finally, back with a working KDE configured nicely. |
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| 23:43.22 | pavi | pinotree thanks |
| 23:43.22 | pavi | its working |
| 23:43.22 | pavi | I installed the dev package |
| 23:43.31 | pinotree | i said that |
| 23:44.55 | capiira | hmm hi anyone know why the hell most distros is adding gnome as default desktop? |
| 23:45.15 | pinotree | ask them |
| 23:45.36 | AssociateX | is there something that I should know or need to know about updating the kmenu. I have apps *.desktop files where they belong that look good and "kbuildsycoca --menutest" shows the apps that I wanted added but it just doesn't happen. |
| 23:45.43 | AssociateX | and, hello people |
| 23:45.58 | pavi | pinotree i got some compilation errors http://pastebin.ca/314700 |
| 23:46.26 | AssociateX | capiira, gentoo doesn't, neither does knoppix the last time I checked |
| 23:46.37 | AssociateX | I don't know about others |
| 23:46.42 | pinotree | pavi: of course you need the devel packages of xorg |
| 23:47.13 | pinotree | pavi: packages.debian.org, second form - look for file names (be sure to pick up your distro version) |
| 23:47.23 | capiira | im new to linux and just noticed that while researching for the right distro |
| 23:47.30 | pavi | ok |
| 23:48.34 | AssociateX | capiira, have fun, there are as many opinions on the subject as there are distros |
| 23:49.03 | capiira | :) |
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| 23:50.24 | AssociateX | I like kde for the ease of use and works out of the box thing. Although some times I use twm for full screen apps that or apps that don't like arts |
| 23:51.01 | Kasyx | AssociateX: that vast majority of _KDE_ apps don't like arts ;-) |
| 23:51.07 | capiira | ahh kde use arts sound server as default? |
| 23:51.20 | AssociateX | capiira, it will soon disappear |
| 23:51.33 | capiira | but alsa works too ? |
| 23:51.41 | AssociateX | capiira, yes |
| 23:51.44 | capiira | fine |
| 23:51.47 | Kasyx | Yes, but not for the KDE noises. |
| 23:51.53 | Kasyx | Which annoys me :-( |
| 23:51.53 | AssociateX | I only have alsa right now with no arts |
| 23:51.58 | Kasyx | I like the sound effects |
| 23:52.11 | AssociateX | I have the kde sound effects too with just arts |
| 23:52.19 | AssociateX | s/arts/alsa |
| 23:52.22 | Kasyx | Oh! |
| 23:52.24 | AssociateX | I meant alsa |
| 23:52.26 | Kasyx | How did you do that? |
| 23:52.35 | AssociateX | Kasyx, do you want the howto for that? |
| 23:52.42 | Kasyx | Please |
| 23:52.45 | AssociateX | hold on and I'll find it, it's slick |
| 23:52.47 | capiira | gimme too ! :) |
| 23:53.49 | AssociateX | http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-489385-highlight-kicking+arts.html |
| 23:54.07 | AssociateX | I just did the script part and it all worked fine |
| 23:54.29 | AssociateX | I didn't uninstall any apps or change anything |
| 23:54.33 | capiira | :) cool thx |
| 23:54.45 | AssociateX | except what I read to change in kcontrol |
| 23:55.05 | capiira | actually i'm searching for a distro+desktop to work and not something to mess around everyday. its hard to decide :) |
| 23:55.37 | AssociateX | I just did what it said from /usr/local/bin/Ksplay on down |
| 23:56.22 | Kasyx | Cool :-D |
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| 23:57.44 | AssociateX | capiira, you are more than likely going to mess around with any distro you get. Although theres a lot more messing with some over others. |
| 23:58.06 | capiira | yeah |
| 23:58.18 | capiira | im on ubuntu now |
| 23:58.27 | AssociateX | you can learn a lot from gentoo or linux from scratch but theres a ton of time involved in installing those |
| 23:58.32 | capiira | next im going to try kubuntu live cd |
| 23:58.33 | AssociateX | oh cool |
| 23:58.54 | capiira | yeah i dont have that time |
| 23:59.06 | AssociateX | I wonder how those linux distros are that come on the Walmart cheaper than heck computers. |
| 23:59.20 | capiira | hehe |
| 23:59.37 | AssociateX | I bet they are easy to use |
| 23:59.42 | capiira | i think linspire is a walmart distro |
| 23:59.52 | AssociateX | Yeah, I think you're right |
