| 00:00.40 | babali | pinotree, ok i'll try |
| 00:01.13 | babali | pinotree, and if i want to have something like with autotools : ./configure --with-debug --with-efence i can do it with cmake ? |
| 00:01.33 | oneforall | well kde 3.5.6 is compiled ,looking threw the piped log I made I see http://rafb.net/p/AS6fio32.html. Just going to check on why it didn't find them . :D |
| 00:01.40 | oneforall | looks good so far |
| 00:01.41 | pinotree | you have to use the option() command of cmake |
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| 00:01.44 | Velvet33 | hi all |
| 00:01.45 | Velvet33 | EXOTICS ADULT FORUM :::::::: http://exotics.ezbbforum.com |
| 00:01.47 | Velvet33 | EXOTICS ADULT FORUM :::::::: http://exotics.ezbbforum.com |
| 00:01.49 | Velvet33 | EXOTICS ADULT FORUM :::::::: http://exotics.ezbbforum.com |
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| 00:02.08 | pinotree | DAMNDAMNDAMNDAMNDAMN |
| 00:02.16 | babali | :o |
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| 00:03.01 | smileaf | that was a quick spam and a half. |
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| 00:03.12 | pinotree | the other one |
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| 00:03.57 | smileaf | lol |
| 00:04.03 | pinotree | thiago: ... |
| 00:04.28 | smileaf | pinotree: you gotta admit that would be exotic =) |
| 00:04.40 | pinotree | -.-' |
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| 00:06.55 | oneforall | darn there aint many but an app like emacs that still can't add $(DESTDIR) to the Makefile.in |
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| 00:08.10 | Milo- | if i have two different Konsole windows open (windows, not tabs), can i set somehow to disable shortcuts to the other one while they're enabled for the other one? |
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| 00:09.11 | oneforall | hmm didn't know when you start 2 they were that way |
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| 00:11.01 | Milo- | i like to keep my irssi as separated window compared to my other console tabs |
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| 00:11.19 | Milo- | and i dont want global hotkeys to mess up my irssi's hotkeys |
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| 00:19.08 | babali | If i have a lib A depending on a lib B and this lib B is depending on the lib A, how can i handle it at the link time ? |
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| 00:19.40 | babali | with cmake |
| 00:20.09 | evilek | then progbably this two libs are bad programmed :) |
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| 00:20.54 | oneforall | ld -lcdaudio is it looking for the one with xmms or is there a cdaudio lib/app ? |
| 00:21.41 | babali | evilek, maybe but it's possible to link with no ? |
| 00:22.02 | thiago | babali: you can't |
| 00:22.10 | thiago | babali: you cannot have circular dependencies |
| 00:22.10 | pinotree | babali: if lib A depend on B, and B depend on A, yoi have a broken design |
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| 00:22.22 | evilek | don't know how they are written |
| 00:22.37 | thiago | it's technically possible, but it's a broken design nonetheless |
| 00:23.05 | evilek | if they use pointers that's probably possible to do, but if they use objects then not |
| 00:23.13 | babali | i have two subfolders and i build a lib for each one |
| 00:23.22 | babali | it's pure c |
| 00:23.35 | thiago | babali: KDE isn't about pure C libraries |
| 00:23.45 | thiago | babali: we only make C++ libraries, and without circular dependencies |
| 00:23.53 | thiago | babali: which library are you finding in those bad conditions? |
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| 00:24.10 | babali | thiago, it's not a kde app, but i ask here because kde devs are skilled with cmake no ? :) |
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| 00:24.29 | thiago | not really. There's one person or two that can do it right. |
| 00:24.37 | babali | thiago, i have two subfolders and i build a lib for each one |
| 00:24.38 | evilek | but this is rather no problem of cmake but of compiler linker ... etc |
| 00:24.40 | thiago | like I said, circular dependencies are not supported at all. |
| 00:24.43 | thiago | just DON'T do them |
| 00:24.54 | babali | ok |
| 00:25.01 | evilek | i agree with thiago |
| 00:25.07 | babali | k |
| 00:25.16 | thiago | merge the two libraries into one |
| 00:25.21 | thiago | or create a third one with the common stuff |
| 00:25.43 | babali | i can create a lib containing other lib ? |
| 00:25.46 | thiago | no |
| 00:25.51 | babali | like with ar cr |
| 00:25.54 | babali | ranlib |
| 00:25.55 | thiago | no |
| 00:25.58 | babali | ok |
| 00:26.01 | thiago | you can have a lib, period. |
| 00:26.12 | thiago | a lib consists of object files, period. |
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| 00:29.42 | oneforall | I thought with ld.so.conf that when ld does a search and it finds /usr/lib(64) in there it looks threw the sub dirs too ? |
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| 00:32.11 | thiago | nope |
| 00:32.23 | thiago | it looks in the exact dirs listed there |
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| 00:35.29 | evilek | where can i get screensavers for kde ? |
| 00:35.37 | thiago | www.kde-look.org |
| 00:36.02 | evilek | thx |
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| 00:41.47 | Anton_Home | can anyone tell me where the "allowed" screen resolutions are stored so I can add one? |
| 00:42.17 | PhilRod | xorg.conf. Ask in #yourdistro or #xorg about the format and how to create new ones |
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| 00:42.35 | Anton_Home | thanks |
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| 00:44.07 | scherfa | Hello, i have some nice ? usability ideas for kde4 but on kde-usability no one is online ... where could i post my ideas ? |
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| 00:44.31 | thiago | kde-usability |
| 00:44.38 | thiago | the mailing list, that is |
| 00:45.38 | scherfa | thiago: Ok. I write an email to the list. Thanks. |
| 00:46.17 | thiago | you're welcome |
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| 00:47.49 | scherfa | Ok i try to give my best |
| 00:47.54 | oneforall | open("/usr/lib64/libmusicbrainz.so", O_RDONLY) = 4 ld finds it why doesn't kmultimedia |
| 00:48.30 | thiago | oneforall: what do you mean? |
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| 00:49.20 | pinotree | oneforall: do you have the devel package for musicbrainz? |
| 00:49.35 | thiago | .so are generally part of such a package |
| 00:49.36 | pinotree | (if your distro have devel package, of course) |
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| 00:50.31 | oneforall | pinotree no but yes:D headers and libs are in the 1 package :D |
| 00:50.45 | oneforall | the headers and libs are installed |
| 00:51.36 | oneforall | so its looking for the header then not the libs . ? |
| 00:52.07 | oneforall | I'll look threw the log for headers then and see where its looking |
| 00:53.00 | oneforall | /usr/include/musicbrainz |
| 00:53.08 | oneforall | only 5 in there |
| 00:53.16 | oneforall | musicbrainz.h |
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| 00:54.31 | oneforall | thiago http://rafb.net/p/AS6fio32.html |
| 00:54.54 | thiago | what does your config.log say? (don't paste, read and tell me why) |
| 00:56.06 | oneforall | I did strace on ld -lmusicbrainz and it looks in the right path . and in the cinfig.log I don't see it say -lmusicbrainz which has me wondering why it didn't even look for it |
| 00:56.23 | oneforall | even using search |
| 00:56.52 | oneforall | #define HAVE_MUSICBRAINZ 0 thats all that showinf in the cinfig.log |
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| 00:59.35 | thiago | oneforall: it should have tried to link to libmusicbrainz |
| 00:59.39 | thiago | or tried to include the headers |
| 00:59.41 | thiago | search for that |
| 00:59.56 | thiago | why does the configure script think you don't have musicbrainz? |
| 01:01.28 | oneforall | donno . I should see -lmusicbrainz in that log file |
| 01:01.59 | thiago | or the headers |
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| 01:02.49 | oneforall | searchibg with music only brings up HAVE_MUSICBRAINZ |
| 01:02.58 | thiago | defined to 0? |
| 01:03.26 | oneforall | /usr/include/musicbrainz/musicbrainz.h |
| 01:03.33 | thiago | ah |
| 01:03.35 | thiago | does that exist? |
| 01:03.36 | oneforall | yup in 2 places |
| 01:04.03 | oneforall | HAVE_MUSICBRAINZ thats in a header file right ? |
| 01:04.11 | thiago | yes |
| 01:04.22 | oneforall | ok will look in there |
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| 01:04.48 | oneforall | joe locate musicbrainz.h that doesn't work to well lol |
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| 01:08.05 | oneforall | nope not in the file #ifndef _MUSICBRAINZ_H_ #define _MUSICBRAINZ_H_ class MusicBrainz #if defined(_WIN32) && defined(MUSICBRAINZ_EXPORTS) etc |
| 01:08.22 | oneforall | don't see a HAVE_MUSICBRAINZ |
| 01:08.33 | oneforall | short file :D |
| 01:08.41 | thiago | it isn't there |
| 01:08.54 | thiago | it's in KDE's config.h if it thinks your system has musicbrainz |
| 01:08.59 | thiago | paste your config.log, please |
| 01:09.10 | oneforall | ok |
| 01:09.21 | oneforall | probably the same for that tunepimp then |
| 01:09.45 | thiago | aye |
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| 01:11.51 | Veroi22 | hi |
| 01:11.53 | Veroi22 | EXOTICS ADULT FORUM ::::::::: http://exotics.ezbbforum.com |
| 01:11.55 | Veroi22 | EXOTICS ADULT FORUM ::::::::: http://exotics.ezbbforum.com |
| 01:11.57 | Veroi22 | EXOTICS ADULT FORUM ::::::::: http://exotics.ezbbforum.com . |
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| 01:13.02 | Ardonik | He always spams from 88.232.77.225. |
| 01:13.21 | Renze | IP ban! ;) |
| 01:14.19 | rr72 | DA BEARS!! |
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| 01:16.54 | oneforall | http://guru.computer-rave.com/logs/config.log |
| 01:16.57 | oneforall | big log |
| 01:18.25 | oneforall | tp_c.h thats for tunepimp checking on that one brb |
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| 01:19.56 | Renze | it's gotta be well-aged single malt scotch |
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| 01:21.12 | oneforall | ahh tunepimp my fault I didn't install it |
| 01:21.38 | oneforall | compiled it but doing to many at one time i missed that one :d |
| 01:22.39 | rr72 | Renze~ what does single malt mean? |
| 01:22.52 | Renze | rr72: not blended... just a single batch |
| 01:23.06 | rr72 | blended? they blend scotch? |
| 01:23.09 | rr72 | im confused |
| 01:23.18 | Renze | they blend batches of scotch |
| 01:23.29 | Renze | to get the flavour they want |
| 01:23.45 | rr72 | its flippin cold in the midwest |
| 01:24.02 | Renze | rr72: you won't like scotch, so don't worry about it ;) |
| 01:24.24 | Cheesewheel | real men drink cask strength scotch |
| 01:24.25 | Cheesewheel | straight |
| 01:24.30 | Cheesewheel | straight from the bottle that is |
| 01:24.40 | rr72 | i think i had a sip of it and ill never try it again |
| 01:25.05 | rr72 | Jack Daniels is whiskey right? |
| 01:25.25 | Renze | rr72: yes, but it is mass-produced pap |
| 01:25.31 | rr72 | pap? |
| 01:25.38 | Renze | rubbish |
| 01:25.47 | oneforall | now I guess for cdaudio ld does search the sub dirs . I allways thought it did. but its not . cause that cdaudio lib is in /usr/lb64/xmms/Input |
| 01:25.58 | rr72 | you can u even tell if uve had stuff to drink before? |
| 01:26.16 | Renze | rr72: can you say that again in english? ;) |
| 01:26.27 | rr72 | can u even tell if uve had stuff to drink before? |
| 01:26.51 | Renze | the mass-produced stuff is harsh... aged quality stuff is smooth |
| 01:27.03 | rr72 | lets say you had a good amount of scotch before Jack Daniels how can u even tell? |
| 01:27.19 | Renze | trust me, you can tell |
| 01:27.36 | oneforall | thiago I'll be back in a bit thanks for the help . you got my link there to the log . |
| 01:27.46 | rr72 | it all comes up the same ;) |
| 01:28.04 | Renze | rr72: the goal is for none of it to come up at all |
| 01:28.10 | Renze | that's why you avoid the pap ;) |
| 01:28.22 | rr72 | none the less it comes out the same :P |
| 01:28.40 | rr72 | whether it be up or through |
| 01:28.41 | Renze | so does everything else... what's your point? |
| 01:28.52 | rr72 | im not sure yet |
| 01:29.32 | Cheesewheel | basically you are saying it gets you drunk one way or the other, right? |
| 01:29.32 | Renze | if that is the only goal... then more power to you ;) |
| 01:29.43 | rr72 | Cheesewheel~ not sure yet |
| 01:29.44 | Renze | I prefer to get drunk with a little style :D |
| 01:29.50 | rr72 | still thinking this one through |
| 01:30.21 | Renze | if you want to get drunk, drink grain alcohol... you'll probably go blind or die though |
| 01:30.50 | rr72 | grain? whats that? |
| 01:31.04 | Cheesewheel | like Everclear |
| 01:31.07 | Renze | in this context, it means a very high percentage |
| 01:31.14 | Renze | like 90% plus |
| 01:31.18 | rr72 | ah |
| 01:31.21 | rr72 | we have some of that |
| 01:31.40 | rr72 | illegel shit in the states |
| 01:32.01 | Renze | it makes a good window cleaner |
| 01:32.27 | Renze | would you drink Windex? ;) |
| 01:32.44 | Cheesewheel | Windex goes down smoother I think |
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| 01:33.24 | rr72 | we used to have some green and blue absenth |
| 01:33.43 | rr72 | can only find the blue stuff, green musta been finished up |
| 01:33.49 | Renze | absinthe is nasty |
| 01:34.03 | rr72 | Renze~ ill take ur word for it |
| 01:34.18 | rr72 | it says on the bottle "Add water to taste" |
| 01:34.38 | Renze | yeah... LOTS of water |
| 01:35.14 | rr72 | ##alcohol |
| 01:35.15 | rr72 | ;) |
| 01:35.16 | rr72 | :P |
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| 01:36.02 | AshyIsMe | can i just say, wow |
| 01:36.07 | AshyIsMe | kde craps all over gnome |
| 01:36.38 | Renze | AshyIsMe: tell us something we don't know ;) |
| 01:36.47 | AshyIsMe | :) |
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| 01:43.36 | AshyIsMe | is there a way to make 'walk through windows' (alt-tab) walk through the minimized windows aswell? |
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| 01:49.06 | funky | hi |
| 01:49.27 | funky | is there any way to do kde session management to reopen the apps as I left them? |
| 01:49.47 | benJIman | It does that by default yes |
| 01:50.18 | benJIman | kcontrol -> kde components -> session manager -> on login -> restore previous session, incase you've turned it off |
| 01:50.21 | funky | I mean, if I left amarok running in background, when I re start kde, amarok should be there again |
| 01:50.34 | wolsni | funky: yes, that's the default |
| 01:50.36 | Sho_ | that's what's supposed to happen, yeah |
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| 01:51.07 | benJIman | It assumes you log out properly though |
| 01:51.13 | benJIman | not control-alt-backspace |
| 01:51.23 | funky | yes, I log out properly |
| 01:51.25 | hardcorelamer | i upgraded my kernel, now fish:// doesn't 'work. any clues? it just says protocol died unexpectedly |
| 01:51.46 | funky | but I got amarok windows, even I closed it before logging out |
| 01:52.06 | Renze | funky: it's not closed if it is still in the system tray |
| 01:52.12 | funky | I mean close the window, but the app is still running, the icon is there *I dont know the name* |
| 01:52.28 | rr72 | what is a 333mhz memory in pcXXXX terms |
| 01:52.28 | funky | I dont know the name <- is the place where some apps left an icon |
| 01:52.43 | Renze | funky: the system tray |
| 01:52.54 | funky | yep, that is |
| 01:53.04 | funky | gonna try again |
| 01:53.07 | Renze | funky: if an icon is in the system tray, it means it is still running... right click on it and select quit |
| 01:53.09 | wolsni | so you wanted amarok to start up, but have all the windows hidden? |
| 01:55.29 | funky | Renze: yep, I know, I meant that for example, i left kget running in the system tray, I log off, then when I restart kde, kget appears in foreground |
| 01:55.29 | Renze | funky: it shouldn't |
| 01:55.29 | Renze | funky: it doesn't here |
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| 01:58.50 | Cheesewheel | so what applications do I need to make my KDE desktop complete? |
| 01:58.55 | Cheesewheel | SuperKaramba maybe? |
| 01:59.11 | Ardonik | Battle for Wesnoth |
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| 02:00.01 | Renze | Cheesewheel: KDE4 ;) |
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| 02:00.39 | Cheesewheel | KDE4 eh? |
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| 02:00.47 | Cheesewheel | you know I have it installed |
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| 02:00.54 | Cheesewheel | but I can't actually run it |
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| 02:01.09 | Renze | wait till it is released, then |
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| 02:01.16 | Cheesewheel | good idea |
| 02:01.23 | Cheesewheel | in the mean time, what should I install? |
| 02:01.36 | Ardonik | Battle for Wesnoth, like I said. |
| 02:01.38 | Ardonik | Awesome game. |
| 02:01.44 | Renze | nothing... I prefer minimal desktops :D |
| 02:01.53 | Ardonik | I, sir, do not! |
| 02:01.55 | Cheesewheel | Battle for Wesnoth eh? |
| 02:01.57 | oneforall | thiago I'm going to see if these 2 apps I have the latest . was thiinking maybe I don't for kde 3.5.6 |
| 02:02.06 | oneforall | libtunepimp-0.4.2 |
| 02:02.19 | oneforall | libmusicbrainz-2.1.4 |
| 02:02.25 | Ardonik | Cheesewheel: Aye, you won't regret it! |
| 02:02.31 | Ardonik | And as for you, Renze, http://beta.nanosouffle.net/snapshot/ardonik-fluxbox-screenshot-4.png |
| 02:02.55 | Cheesewheel | A fantasy turn based strategy game |
| 02:02.56 | Cheesewheel | interesting |
| 02:03.10 | Ardonik | One of the best ever written in my opinion, open source or no. |
| 02:03.23 | Renze | Ardonik: no sir, I don't like it |
| 02:03.34 | Renze | Ardonik: the screenshot, I mean |
| 02:03.35 | Ardonik | Renze: Fie! |
| 02:03.52 | Ardonik | I know it's not KDE, but it's the principle of the matter. |
| 02:04.11 | Renze | it's too busy |
| 02:04.21 | Ardonik | Busy? With no desktop icons whatsoever? |
| 02:04.29 | Ardonik | All the action is in the slit on the right side. |
| 02:04.37 | Renze | yep... the wallpaper is too busy... the dockapps are too busy... |
| 02:04.45 | Renze | not minimal at all |
| 02:04.48 | Ardonik | Including a wMDrawer (the fluxbox logo--click it, and a tray of icons slides out) |
| 02:04.49 | oneforall | hmm the pimp has a newer but not the brainz |
| 02:05.06 | Ardonik | The wallpaper is Twilight Time, by kenwas at wincustomize.com |
| 02:05.08 | oneforall | was thinking maybe the newer has that change in the header :D |
| 02:05.25 | Ardonik | Its unspeakable awesomeness has never before been questioned. |
| 02:05.32 | Cheesewheel | can you put wmDrawers in other wmDrawers? |
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| 02:05.54 | Ardonik | Cheesewheel: No--it's a dockapp, so it has to be in the slit. |
| 02:06.11 | Renze | uhhhuhuhuhuh... slit... |
| 02:06.19 | Renze | shut up, beavis |
| 02:06.26 | qupada | freudian slit? i mean slip |
| 02:06.41 | Ardonik | It really is called "the slit." |
| 02:06.51 | Ardonik | The area on the edge of the screen where you can dock dockapps. |
| 02:07.36 | Ardonik | It happens from time to time :-) |
| 02:08.02 | Ardonik | Now, Renze. Your turn!1oneone |
| 02:08.11 | Renze | for what? |
| 02:08.22 | Ardonik | Screenshots |
| 02:08.27 | Renze | oh, one moment... |
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| 02:09.25 | Renze | http://img395.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snapshot16xo2.png |
| 02:09.50 | Sho_ | Renze: Somehow, for some reason I can't quite put my finger on, I like the apps on your desktop better |
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| 02:09.59 | Renze | Sho_: I wonder why? :D |
| 02:10.08 | Sho_ | :) |
| 02:10.37 | Ardonik | Renze: the committee has considered your screenshot and duly rejected it |
| 02:10.47 | Renze | Ardonik: no accounting for poor taste |
| 02:10.48 | Ardonik | The reason given by the chairman was "too bland and vanilla" |
| 02:10.55 | Renze | Ardonik: I like minimal |
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| 02:11.24 | Sho_ | Not like those bloated Fluxbox desktops |
| 02:11.24 | Sho_ | ;) |
| 02:11.25 | Ardonik | I like functional desktops that stay clean more |
| 02:11.27 | qupada | Ardonik: how many members of this "comittee" are in your head? |
| 02:11.36 | Renze | Ardonik: how is my desktop not functional? |
| 02:11.39 | Ardonik | Me, myself, and I, sir |
| 02:11.46 | Sho_ | And of course, every functional desktop needs a senselessly big gkrellm window with loads of useless stats |
| 02:12.01 | qupada | http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/5424/20070204150256if7.png |
| 02:12.09 | Sho_ | How could I function without seeing a graph plotter of my CPU usage? |
| 02:12.12 | qupada | couldn't bebothered actually opening any windows, sorry about that |
| 02:12.17 | Ardonik | You kidding? I can tell at a glance when my CPU is hosed by looking at the number of bubbles in the bubblefishymon |
| 02:12.31 | Renze | Ardonik: I can tell that by the sound of my CPU fan |
| 02:12.42 | Ardonik | My mobo is quiet. |
| 02:12.44 | Sho_ | My CPU doesn't hose *shrugs* |
| 02:12.54 | Renze | Sho_: it's not Canadian :D |
| 02:14.02 | Ardonik | qupada: bah, at least Renze hada widget |
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| 02:14.02 | Renze | Ardonik: widget? no, it's not superkaramba |
| 02:14.03 | Ardonik | I thought it was. |
| 02:14.06 | Renze | it is cairo-clock |
| 02:14.20 | Sho_ | Renze: No arthur-clock? boo |
| 02:14.22 | Ardonik | Well, it's still better than nothing! |
| 02:14.24 | Renze | uses FAR less CPU time than any of the sk analog clocks |
| 02:14.40 | Renze | Sho_: does arthur-clock actually exist? ;) |
| 02:14.49 | Sho_ | Renze: Probably not ;) Write one! |
| 02:15.19 | Renze | Sho_: that's your answer to everything, isn't it? :D |
| 02:16.13 | Sho_ | Renze: Well, it would be a nice evening hack :) |
| 02:16.24 | Renze | Sho_: get to work then :D |
| 02:17.51 | oneforall | hmm guess thiago left too |
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| 02:21.09 | wgw | good evening |
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| 02:22.45 | Sho_ | Renze: Well I meant for you ;) |
| 02:23.12 | Renze | Sho_: nah... this heat is making me lazy ;) |
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| 02:25.05 | qupada | Renze: never fear, there is good tv viewing to be had. if you're not entirely reliant on telstra's cable, on UHF channel 41 you'll find Al Jazeera's English channel |
| 02:25.20 | qupada | i found it last night trying to get better tv reception |
| 02:26.04 | Renze | qupada: I only have free-to-air TV |
| 02:26.14 | qupada | well good then. go tune it in |
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| 02:26.34 | Renze | nah... I'd prefer something interesting |
| 02:26.47 | Cheesewheel | hey fellas, what's the "k" volume control and such application |
| 02:26.49 | Cheesewheel | ? |
| 02:26.51 | Renze | kmix |
| 02:26.59 | Cheesewheel | thanks, I knew I could count on you |
| 02:27.16 | Renze | one |
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| 03:08.49 | kendrick | the kde desktop locker is acting up |
| 03:08.51 | kendrick | the other day, i had to kill it (which killed x) because it kept flashing black, and then a grey box with the "Unlock" button (didn't get far enough to draw all widgets/labels) |
| 03:09.02 | kendrick | just now, my box was COMPLETELY unusable |
| 03:09.11 | kendrick | last thing i did was lock X :( |
| 03:09.30 | kendrick | even alt+sysrq+... didn't seem to work |
| 03:09.39 | Sintax` | Anyone else having problems getting KWeather to work? |
| 03:10.00 | Sintax` | i cant get like any surrounding cities to work with it, and i live near tampa |
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| 03:15.34 | Faust-C | yay im back |
| 03:15.53 | Renze | no you're not |
| 03:15.57 | Faust-C | lol |
| 03:16.00 | Faust-C | Renze: sup there |
| 03:16.11 | Renze | the temperature, and the humidity |
| 03:16.26 | Faust-C | and my passion for linux .. |
| 03:16.38 | snarkster | easy boyo |
| 03:16.44 | snarkster | its a computer |
| 03:17.02 | Faust-C | lol |
| 03:17.05 | Renze | don't let that missing backplate fool you |
| 03:17.15 | Faust-C | man im getting my new one tuesday |
| 03:18.59 | snarkster | new what backplate? |
| 03:19.12 | Faust-C | noo system |
| 03:19.23 | snarkster | im installing FC6 on my desktop.. anyone got any opinions on FC |
| 03:19.36 | Faust-C | AMD64, gig ram, pcie vid card, 400 gig sata hdd |
| 03:19.38 | Renze | snarkster: you don't want to know my opinion of FC |
| 03:19.41 | Faust-C | snarkster: dont do it |
| 03:19.56 | Faust-C | fedora is bloated and slow |
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| 03:20.00 | snarkster | well arklinux doesnt work on it.. |
| 03:20.03 | Faust-C | as well as the repos sucks |
| 03:20.12 | Faust-C | snarkster: try arch |
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| 03:20.18 | snarkster | ok well i need suggestions |
| 03:20.21 | Faust-C | snarkster: its very good |
| 03:20.28 | Faust-C | ive tried all linux distros |
| 03:20.35 | Faust-C | gentoo is too ... well |
| 03:20.43 | Faust-C | time consuming |
| 03:20.54 | Renze | I doesn't consume much of mine |
| 03:20.56 | Faust-C | if you wnat a stable fast bleeding edge system |
| 03:20.57 | snarkster | i hear good htings aobut gentoo, but im not that big on customizations and compiling |
| 03:21.04 | Faust-C | arch is the way to go |
| 03:21.06 | Renze | it* |
| 03:21.42 | Faust-C | and the community wont torment you too much snarkster |
| 03:21.49 | snarkster | well im already on to the 5th disk of FC.. let me see what it does this time |
| 03:21.55 | Faust-C | snarkster: aww man |
| 03:22.00 | snarkster | shrug |
| 03:22.08 | Faust-C | snarkster: you can install arch in 15 mins base system |
| 03:22.16 | snarkster | im outta disks or id download gentoo and arc and several others. |
| 03:22.18 | Faust-C | and then get a DE up in another 5 |
| 03:22.30 | Faust-C | arch only takes a few megs for ftp install |
| 03:22.48 | snarkster | what packages does arch use? |
| 03:23.10 | Faust-C | snarkster: its own |
| 03:23.14 | snarkster | oh |
| 03:23.18 | snarkster | not rpm |
| 03:23.20 | Faust-C | its not based off anything |
| 03:23.27 | Faust-C | but it has binary |
| 03:23.30 | Faust-C | and abs |
| 03:23.35 | Faust-C | Renze: yeah taht lol |
| 03:23.38 | Faust-C | sike |
| 03:23.50 | Faust-C | snarkster: anyways yo ucan compile or use pacman to install apps |
| 03:23.54 | Faust-C | similar to FBSD |
| 03:23.58 | Faust-C | but much easier |
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| 03:24.14 | snarkster | hmmm |
| 03:24.31 | Faust-C | lol |
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| 03:24.39 | Faust-C | snarkster: man i wanna shjow you some stuff |
| 03:24.45 | Faust-C | snarkster: lemme get a SS |
| 03:27.20 | Faust-C | snarkster: http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/6011/pacman4ad2.png |
| 03:27.30 | Faust-C | thats from my system |
| 03:27.31 | Renze | MinceR: skull and crossbones |
| 03:27.42 | Renze | ☠|
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| 03:29.39 | Faust-C | snarkster: man just try arch and youll see a diff |
| 03:30.55 | Faust-C | snarkster: feel free to join #archlinux and ask questions |
| 03:33.42 | snarkster | awesome thanx.. |
| 03:33.50 | illogic-[out] | I too am an arch user |
| 03:33.54 | illogic-[out] | I have to admit. |
| 03:34.04 | illogic-[out] | I have found my perfect distro in it. |
| 03:34.07 | Renze | illogic-[out]: try the 12 step programme |
| 03:34.09 | snarkster | what do you think of it |
| 03:34.18 | snarkster | cool |
| 03:34.30 | Faust-C | illogic-[out]: lol |
| 03:34.46 | illogic-[out] | snarkster: I like simplicity in a system without it being 'dumb' |
| 03:34.50 | illogic-[out] | arch gives that to me |
| 03:34.52 | snarkster | so fc is now like windows right? |
| 03:35.10 | Faust-C | YES |
| 03:35.17 | snarkster | the XP of linux |
| 03:35.28 | Faust-C | if you want to be a redhat certified person use it |
| 03:35.42 | Faust-C | but if you want speed and stability use arch |
| 03:35.58 | Faust-C | illogic-[out]: you got pacman3 yet ?? |
| 03:36.19 | snarkster | does arch have XGL |
| 03:36.25 | illogic-[out] | i was a mandrake user before (yay), then mandriva (boo) and in between used debian (awesome but old ), gentoo (time consuming), FC (...), SuSE (good, but did too many non-standard things) |
| 03:36.34 | illogic-[out] | and Yast, the suse package manger sucks |
| 03:36.35 | illogic-[out] | IMO |
| 03:36.41 | Faust-C | way suck |
| 03:36.46 | illogic-al | snarkster: yes |
| 03:36.53 | illogic-al | XGL and aiglx |
| 03:37.07 | Faust-C | snarkster: and beryl |
| 03:37.17 | snarkster | i have a radeon 9200 will XGL work with that |
| 03:37.21 | Sintax` | illogic-al: and now you use what? |
| 03:37.29 | Faust-C | snarkster: with a lil work yes |
| 03:37.32 | illogic-al | Sintax`: archlinux |
| 03:37.36 | Faust-C | snarkster: btw use nvidia lol |
| 03:37.53 | snarkster | well i just happen to have a nvidia in there as well. |
| 03:37.54 | illogic-al | what i look for in a distro is both a helpful community and a damned good package manager |
| 03:38.02 | Sintax` | illogic-al: then stay away from linux |
| 03:38.02 | snarkster | both of them are dual head video cards |
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| 03:38.07 | Faust-C | and pacman3 is soo swete |
| 03:38.16 | illogic-al | Sintax`: actually archlinux has both |
| 03:38.33 | Faust-C | illogic-al: i sense a hater in the force |
| 03:38.34 | illogic-al | many linux distros hav both, but IMO arch is better at it. |
| 03:38.34 | Sintax` | FreeBSD <3 |
| 03:38.45 | Faust-C | Sintax`: you use FBSD ?> |
| 03:38.50 | Sintax` | Yeah |
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| 03:38.57 | Faust-C | oh sweet |
| 03:38.57 | Sintax` | Free + Open and Solaris 10 |
| 03:39.03 | derek | I've been trying to find something to move from gentoo (too much maintenance). I'll try arch |
| 03:39.09 | Faust-C | solaris im looking at for my company |
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| 03:39.18 | Sintax` | Solaris 10 is amazing =p |
| 03:39.25 | illogic-al | f-bsd community is mostly a bunch of elitist snobs. no t something I want to be a part of. |
| 03:39.25 | Faust-C | derek: yeah dont have to worry about env-update |
| 03:39.34 | Sintax` | illogic-al: i've never met any |
| 03:39.41 | Faust-C | Sintax`: your kidding |
| 03:39.48 | Faust-C | Sintax`: i got this much of the time |
| 03:39.53 | illogic-al | i think philrod and lauri are the only ones i've met which are not. |
| 03:39.56 | Faust-C | rtfm n00b |
| 03:40.01 | Sintax` | which 'community' are you referring to |
| 03:40.04 | Sintax` | which channel/network |
| 03:40.07 | Faust-C | the IRC One |
| 03:40.09 | Faust-C | freenode |
| 03:40.18 | illogic-al | yes. irc community |
| 03:40.24 | Sintax` | what channel |
| 03:40.25 | illogic-al | as Faust-C said |
| 03:40.33 | illogic-al | #freebsd mayhaps ? |
| 03:40.34 | Faust-C | dude ##freebsd |
| 03:40.38 | Faust-C | err # |
| 03:40.43 | Sintax` | ##freebsd is the only one i go into |
| 03:40.45 | derek | Faust-C: I don't mind that. having a mix of stable and bleeding edge gets dicy, and my wife complains when it doesn't work :) |
| 03:40.49 | Sintax` | (##) not (#) |
| 03:40.56 | illogic-al | Sintax`: they are both the same |
| 03:41.00 | illogic-al | # links to ## |
| 03:41.07 | Faust-C | derek: man arch has unstable stable repo |
| 03:41.13 | Faust-C | derek: i havent broke anything yet |
| 03:41.30 | Faust-C | derek: and you can still compile if you want to |
| 03:41.30 | illogic-al | Sintax`: and your previous comment pretty much typifies that elitist attitude |
| 03:41.37 | Sintax` | how so |
| 03:41.43 | snarkster | :) |
| 03:41.54 | snarkster | cant we all just be linux buddies |
| 03:42.14 | illogic-al | [22:38] <Sintax`> illogic-al: then stay away from linux |
| 03:42.24 | Sintax` | typically im in ##freebsd and on my best friends network with all of the good guys from ##freebsd, we all use BSD systems, and some use linux also but we all help eachother out |
| 03:42.45 | Faust-C | snarkster: we can |
| 03:42.51 | Sintax` | i'm definitely not a fan of linux anymore, i used to use it for years, slackware was my favourite |
| 03:42.57 | Faust-C | UNIX SOCITY UNIT |
| 03:43.06 | Faust-C | Sintax`: why not |
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| 03:43.10 | Sintax` | Linux, for those who hate microsoft. BSD, for those who love unix. |
| 03:43.13 | Sintax` | ;) |
| 03:43.16 | Faust-C | Sintax`: true |
| 03:43.21 | Faust-C | i can understand that |
| 03:43.24 | Sintax` | simple enough way to put it |
| 03:43.26 | snarkster | this is true |
| 03:43.28 | Faust-C | but FBSD doesnt have usb snd |
| 03:43.28 | Sintax` | and of course, stability |
| 03:43.36 | illogic-al | um. no. wrong. |
| 03:43.39 | Faust-C | so thats why i left |
| 03:43.40 | Sintax` | Faust-C: what sound device? |
| 03:44.01 | Faust-C | a usb headset |
| 03:44.08 | Faust-C | plantronics |
| 03:44.16 | Sintax` | which release of freebsd? |
| 03:44.28 | illogic-al | I love unix (and hate MS too) but it's more liking open source and disliking companies who ignore their users |
| 03:44.40 | Faust-C | Sintax`: 6 |
| 03:45.39 | Faust-C | Sintax`: im gonna make a FBS sever soon |
| 03:45.50 | Faust-C | i really like the security features |
| 03:45.51 | illogic-al | mainly i didn't like the fact that it can only write to its own file system format |
| 03:46.05 | Sintax` | illogic-al: what version were you using lol |
| 03:46.11 | illogic-al | Sintax`: 5 |
| 03:46.15 | Sintax` | it works great on every computer i have it running on |
| 03:46.35 | Sintax` | must have some weird hardware |
| 03:46.37 | *** part/#kde mangz74 (n=aaron@c-68-33-114-114.hsd1.md.comcast.net) |
| 03:46.38 | Sintax` | 6.2 is amazing though |
| 03:46.41 | illogic-al | Sintax`: works great doesn't have anything to do with hardware support or the other issue I raised |
| 03:46.43 | Sintax` | noticible difference in performance from 6.1 |
| 03:46.50 | illogic-al | it worked great on my computer too. |
| 03:46.53 | *** part/#kde Eruart (n=eruart@62.105.25.99) |
| 03:47.00 | illogic-al | for hardware that it supported... |
| 03:47.05 | Sintax` | works great has to do with... it supports all of my hardware, even on my quad xeon, to my old ass 333MHz |
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| 03:47.28 | snarkster | hmmm |
| 03:47.36 | illogic-al | Sintax`: and does it support 5.1 channel surround sound? |
| 03:47.47 | illogic-al | TV cards |
| 03:47.51 | Sintax` | yes of course |
| 03:47.58 | illogic-al | writing to reiserfs file system? |
| 03:47.59 | snarkster | im a noob so excuse this question, but is there a non free bsd? |
| 03:48.03 | Sintax` | my friend uses all of his HTPC's with FreeBSD |
| 03:48.05 | Sintax` | reiser sucks |
| 03:48.09 | illogic-al | Sintax`: well support has gotten better then |
| 03:48.12 | troy | I just got so tired of the packaging system for freebsd |
| 03:48.13 | Sintax` | yes, it has |
| 03:48.29 | illogic-al | Sintax`: cue elitist attitude |
| 03:48.31 | Faust-C | snarkster: yeah |
| 03:48.34 | Sintax` | what's wrong with UFS ? |
| 03:48.40 | illogic-al | i didn't ask if it sucked, i asked if it worked. |
| 03:48.43 | Faust-C | snarkster: there is open, net, pc, and dragon |
| 03:48.59 | snarkster | dragon?? sounds interesting |
| 03:49.04 | hydrogen | dragonfly |
| 03:49.11 | hydrogen | it makes it sound a whole lot less interesting |
| 03:49.11 | hydrogen | :) |
| 03:49.25 | Sintax` | XFS and Reiser work iirc |
| 03:49.32 | illogic-al | Sintax`: how can I copy my data if it can't read from reiserfs drives? |
| 03:49.37 | Sintax` | as far as running it onto reiser, i dont think so |
| 03:50.19 | illogic-al | Sintax`: i don't think so. at least not when i tried. XFS OR reiser |
| 03:51.16 | illogic-al | also since I want to share data between linux and freebsd, i want a file system (journaling) which both can write to. |
| 03:51.17 | Sintax` | you can always use NFS |
| 03:51.17 | illogic-al | and as I said,at the time F-bsd only wrote to vfat and itself. |
| 03:51.17 | Sintax` | right |
| 03:51.59 | hydrogen | illogic-al: linux can mount ufs ro (and has experimental rw) support |
| 03:52.04 | illogic-al | Sintax`: i left windows to be free of restrictions. i'm not about to impose another on mysef becasue someone else decided that it is better (for their values of better)_ |
| 03:52.20 | illogic-al | hydrogen: _experimental_ |
| 03:52.31 | illogic-al | i don't experiment with my data |
| 03:52.42 | hydrogen | nod |
| 03:52.49 | hydrogen | was just saying it does |
| 03:53.20 | illogic-al | hydrogen: also if freebsd doesn't try to interoperate and pretend it lives in a vacuum. i'm happy leaving it there. |
| 03:53.49 | illogic-al | it is a very good operating system, but doesn't meet the requirements for what i'm looking for in _my_ OS |
| 03:54.55 | illogic-al | bah |
| 03:55.07 | snarkster | camt hear it |
| 03:55.40 | Sintax` | http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gentoo-freebsd.xml |
| 03:55.48 | Sintax` | there's some weird Gentoo and FreeBSD project heh |
| 03:56.11 | Faust-C | Sintax`: lol |
| 03:56.22 | Faust-C | Sintax`: i dont get how you can combine linux and BSD ? |
| 03:56.31 | Sintax` | they did. |
| 03:56.40 | Sintax` | don't know why you'd want to, even |
| 03:56.53 | illogic-al | lol |
| 03:57.08 | Faust-C | Sintax`: cause gentoo is full of elistist bastards no offence Renze your one in a million |
| 03:57.23 | hydrogen | err |
| 03:57.24 | Sintax` | lmao |
| 03:57.27 | Sintax` | true |
| 03:57.31 | Faust-C | seriously |
| 03:57.32 | hydrogen | I've yet to meet a gentoo elitist bastard |
| 03:57.33 | Sintax` | i never liked gentoo |
| 03:57.35 | Sintax` | pain in the ass |
| 03:58.26 | Faust-C | hydrogen: your kidding |
| 03:58.26 | hydrogen | I've managed to meet a lot of dumbasses that use gentoo |
| 03:58.26 | hydrogen | but very few elitist bastards |
| 03:58.27 | Faust-C | hydrogen: hmm hard to tell the diff |
| 03:58.27 | Sintax` | how about "elitists" not +bastards |
| 03:58.27 | hydrogen | how about dumbasses |
| 03:58.27 | Faust-C | yeah well say that |
| 03:58.27 | hydrogen | and tis easy to tell the difference |
| 03:58.27 | hydrogen | one knows what they are doing and is proud of it, the other doesn't know what they are doing and pretends to |
| 03:58.29 | Faust-C | derek: you are.. not ... maybe .. damn you are |
| 03:58.44 | Faust-C | hydrogen: well idk ive met some good ppl thru linux |
| 03:58.50 | Sintax` | But... to sum up my view.. Open source is about choice and freedom, whether it's BSD or Linux, both are free choices :-P |
| 03:59.09 | Faust-C | i had one guy send me a vid card |
| 03:59.17 | Faust-C | just cause he was nice |
| 03:59.27 | Faust-C | thats why i love *nix cause the ppl |
| 03:59.37 | Faust-C | the community is what makes us diff |
| 03:59.42 | Faust-C | MS has no community |
| 03:59.46 | Faust-C | just users |
| 03:59.48 | Faust-C | and prn |
| 03:59.51 | Faust-C | porn* |
| 03:59.54 | Sintax` | i've met moronic linux and unix users, i've met awesome users from both as well ;) |
| 03:59.55 | Faust-C | lots and lots of porn |
| 04:00.01 | Sintax` | doesn't mean ill judge the entire community though lol |
| 04:00.13 | Faust-C | Sintax`: true but they hurt my feeelings |
| 04:00.23 | Sintax` | so do girls |
| 04:00.25 | Sintax` | lol |
| 04:00.30 | Faust-C | .me room name is now #gayandsensitive |
| 04:00.44 | illogic-al | lol |
| 04:00.46 | Sintax` | Gaybuntu users ! |
| 04:00.52 | illogic-al | lmao |
| 04:00.56 | snarkster | pron |
| 04:00.58 | Faust-C | lol |
| 04:00.58 | Sintax` | that's a real distro last time i checked |
| 04:01.01 | Sintax` | sadly |
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| 04:01.08 | Faust-C | Sintax`: om you didnt go there |
| 04:01.14 | Sintax` | haha |
| 04:01.34 | Faust-C | ubuntu isnt they way thats the darkside of the force |
| 04:01.50 | Sintax` | lol |
| 04:01.50 | Faust-C | users dont learn how to use thier systems correctly |
| 04:02.14 | grendal_prime | i got these two files in my trashcan kqemu-1.3.0pre9,two files exact same name. i simply cannot delete...that make any sense? |
| 04:02.14 | Faust-C | nor do they understand what opensource is nor do they truely appreciate it |
| 04:02.19 | Faust-C | grendal_prime: just open a term |
| 04:02.19 | Sintax` | of course, the people who use linux cuz it's the "cool" thing to do |
| 04:02.26 | Faust-C | grendal_prime: then rm teh files |
| 04:02.36 | oneforall | hmm the default compiles ar with out lame etc |
| 04:02.38 | Faust-C | Sintax`: yeah we call them ubuntuist |
| 04:02.42 | Sintax` | lmao |
| 04:02.44 | grendal_prime | how do i open the trashcan in term? i cant find a path to it |
| 04:02.44 | Sintax` | nice |
| 04:02.50 | Faust-C | grendal_prime: its in |
| 04:02.55 | Sintax` | grendal_prime: i think ~/Desktop ? |
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| 04:03.22 | grendal_prime | hmm |
| 04:03.27 | Faust-C | Sintax`: no |
| 04:03.28 | Sintax` | i see trash.desktop but hmmm |
| 04:03.31 | Sintax` | im sure im wrong |
| 04:03.32 | Faust-C | its in the .kde dir |
| 04:03.37 | Sintax` | i was about to look there |
| 04:03.37 | garotosopa | hi. I save my previous .kde directory and just restored it now but it's missing the window-specific settings. how do I restore it? |
| 04:03.38 | Sintax` | haha |
| 04:03.54 | Faust-C | garotosopa: you do it manually |
| 04:03.58 | oneforall | So any idea on what I can do for it to pic up on libmusicbrainz ? |
| 04:04.01 | Faust-C | garotosopa: and you use kubuntu dont you |
| 04:04.08 | garotosopa | Faust-C, debian |
| 04:04.12 | Sintax` | KewBunTew |
| 04:04.14 | Faust-C | ah i thoght so |
| 04:04.27 | garotosopa | Faust-C, do I sound so? |
| 04:04.31 | Faust-C | amazing how i can pick ppl out like that |
| 04:04.32 | oneforall | since the header doesn't have that HAVE_MUSICBRIANZ |
| 04:04.33 | Sintax` | my KWeather suxx:-( |
| 04:04.37 | Faust-C | garotosopa: very much so |
| 04:04.38 | Sintax` | i want it to work |
| 04:04.40 | Roey | troy! |
| 04:04.42 | Roey | hey hey |
| 04:04.47 | illogic-al | Roey: ! |
| 04:04.50 | illogic-al | OMG! |
| 04:04.51 | Roey | ok, I'm following the instructions AND, |
| 04:04.51 | illogic-al | OMG! |
| 04:05.06 | illogic-al | Roey: when'd they let you out? |
| 04:05.08 | Roey | yeay! |
| 04:05.17 | Roey | _______/\______\o/__ (help) |
| 04:05.20 | snarkster | wtf |
| 04:05.29 | Roey | :) |
| 04:05.34 | illogic-al | snarkster: we're having a moment. quiet! |
| 04:05.39 | illogic-al | :-D |
| 04:05.40 | snarkster | yes yes ok |
| 04:05.47 | Faust-C | snarkster: man looks like a special moment |
| 04:06.02 | Roey | illogic-al: hehe, troy had put together a writeup on how to execute ia32 apps in an amd64 debian/sid environment without needing to chroot |
| 04:06.13 | illogic-al | Roey: whatcha been up to? apart from having a real life? :-) |
| 04:06.22 | Roey | illogic-al: I did my GRE |
| 04:06.27 | Roey | illogic-al: or wait, it did me. |
| 04:06.31 | Roey | hammered me. |
| 04:06.37 | illogic-al | oooh! another grad student in the making? |
| 04:06.39 | snarkster | gre?? |
| 04:06.42 | illogic-al | s/another/fellow |
| 04:06.57 | troy | Roey: well, it wasn't written for debian necessarily |
| 04:06.57 | illogic-al | Roey: lol. |
| 04:07.00 | grendal_prime | where is the actual trashcan folder..i dont see it anywhere! |
| 04:07.00 | garotosopa | Faust-C, I'm just curious on how a kubuntu guy sounds like... |
| 04:07.13 | Roey | I scored fifty points LOWER on the GRE than on the SAT. I'm 26 now; I took the SAT when I was 16. So that means that in the ten years following the SAT, I have gotten progressively stupider. |
| 04:07.16 | Faust-C | garotosopa: the questions ive heard in #ubuntu |
| 04:07.16 | illogic-al | Roey: idn't do as well as you wanted? |
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| 04:07.23 | Faust-C | you sound liek tehm |
| 04:07.27 | troy | Roey: but it should work, assuming you have the right libs, and are okay with installing something outside of the package management system :) |
| 04:07.34 | Faust-C | sounds like you rather get an answer than look for it |
| 04:07.36 | Faust-C | no offense |
| 04:07.42 | Roey | illogic-al: 590/verbal, 530/math (out of 800). How my brother whizzed it to the full 800 I don't know. |
| 04:07.42 | Faust-C | im just stating what i see |
| 04:07.44 | illogic-al | Roey: you're assuming that the GRE's are actually a test of you're smartness... |
| 04:07.51 | Roey | troy: ok, now I remember the issue: |
| 04:08.06 | Roey | troy: the Flash installer wouldn't take any install directory I gave it. |
| 04:08.18 | garotosopa | np. pretty much like that... but see? everything else is (almost) fine :) |
| 04:08.26 | Roey | troy: when I specified a directory and hit <enter>, it would just give me the installer directory prompt. |
| 04:08.33 | Faust-C | garotosopa: lol well im a odd one anyways |
| 04:08.36 | troy | Roey: the flash installer basically copies a .so file... you could do that manually I guess |
| 04:08.36 | illogic-al | Roey: i don't remember what I got, but i think it was around the same. and if you're older you probably get some leeway :-) |
| 04:08.44 | Roey | troy: hmm |
| 04:08.49 | Roey | illogic-al: I'm stupid! |
| 04:08.51 | Roey | dear lord! |
| 04:09.08 | Roey | In TEN YEARS of opportunities! I've squandered them!!!! |
| 04:09.18 | oggb4mp3 | illogic-al!!! |
| 04:09.25 | illogic-al | in a strictly platonic way of course... |
| 04:09.33 | illogic-al | :-D |
| 04:09.33 | troy | Roey: copy flashplayer.xptand libflashplayer.so to .mozilla/plugins or somesuch - and make sure that path is in your konq plugins search path |
| 04:09.47 | troy | Roey: copy flashplayer.xpt and libflashplayer.so, rather |
| 04:09.57 | Roey | illogic-al: my dream job is to program GPL KDE apps in Python for a living. |
| 04:09.59 | Roey | :P |
| 04:10.14 | Roey | troy: just those two files?? |
| 04:10.24 | illogic-al | oggb4mp3: can one man not be happy to see another. is that so wrong? does that make me a bad person? |
| 04:10.24 | Roey | er, four. |
| 04:10.25 | hydrogen | three offensive words in one sentance! |
| 04:10.30 | hydrogen | thats setting some sort of record |
| 04:10.37 | Roey | oggb4mp3: are you homophobic? |
| 04:10.56 | illogic-al | no, he's heterophobic }:-) |
| 04:10.57 | Roey | oggb4mp3: I think that was officially banned here at the turn of the millenium. |
| 04:10.58 | oggb4mp3 | illogic-al: I was exclaiming for exactly that reason |
| 04:11.00 | Roey | illogic-al: ahhhhhhhh |
| 04:11.04 | oggb4mp3 | haven't seen you in a while dude |
| 04:11.08 | Roey | oggb4mp3: btw, hi |
| 04:11.17 | oggb4mp3 | yo |
| 04:11.17 | Roey | hydrogen: HEH |
| 04:11.30 | troy | Roey: those two files should work -- you might want to glance over the installer code to see if it modifies those files in any way... |
| 04:11.36 | Roey | hmm. |
| 04:11.41 | Roey | is flash 9 the latest? |
| 04:11.47 | troy | Roey: yeah |
| 04:11.50 | illogic-al | oggb4mp3: can I foment discord or what? |
| 04:11.52 | illogic-al | }:-D |
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| 04:12.05 | troy | Roey: you may also want to run 'ldd libflashplayer.so' and see if you are missing any libs :) |
| 04:12.19 | illogic-al | troy called Roey a doody-head when he wasn't looking btw. |
| 04:12.48 | Roey | troy: hmm.... how hard would it be for debian-proper to make a working wrapper for it for amd64? |
| 04:12.51 | illogic-al | lol |
| 04:13.23 | Roey | hehe |
| 04:13.29 | illogic-al | snowblower? you not in Mass. by chance are you? |
| 04:13.36 | illogic-al | (we had snow yesterday) |
| 04:13.38 | Roey | heh |
| 04:13.41 | Roey | I'm in DC |
| 04:13.43 | Roey | bethesda actually |
| 04:13.54 | illogic-al | medilund |
| 04:13.55 | Roey | illogic-al: but a good (female, hehe) friend of mine isfrom there. |
| 04:14.08 | troy | Roey: I don't know how hard it'd be - probably need a few .debs from the ia32 version, and to divert nspluginscan and nspluginviewer to the 32 bit versions... |
| 04:14.25 | illogic-al | Roey: really... how old is she? |
| 04:14.27 | illogic-al | :-) |
| 04:14.35 | Roey | illogic-al: heh, 26! |
| 04:14.38 | Roey | she just turned 26. |
| 04:14.49 | Roey | But then I have another she-friend from Michigan |
| 04:14.51 | illogic-al | I jsut turned 24! I was meant to be! |
| 04:14.51 | troy | illogic-al: snow? bah! you don't know winter, you silly southerner... |
| 04:14.52 | Roey | she's 27 |
| 04:15.00 | Roey | troy: they're south? |
| 04:15.07 | Roey | Mass. is SOUTH of somewehre? |
| 04:15.15 | Roey | jesus christ, it's the northernmost place I can imagine! |
| 04:15.17 | illogic-al | yeah |
| 04:15.19 | hydrogen | no |
| 04:15.20 | illogic-al | we're south |
| 04:15.20 | hydrogen | it south of me |
| 04:15.23 | illogic-al | of CANDA |
| 04:15.26 | Roey | the only thing above that is North North America |
| 04:15.32 | hydrogen | well |
| 04:15.35 | illogic-al | er. canada even |
| 04:15.35 | hydrogen | south of me when i'm home |
| 04:15.44 | Roey | illogic-al: heh, NNA |
| 04:15.45 | Roey | :) |
| 04:15.46 | illogic-al | lol |
| 04:16.04 | hydrogen | mass is like the state that isn't |
| 04:16.15 | Roey | is it red on the outside and blue on the inside |
| 04:16.15 | Roey | ? |
| 04:16.26 | hydrogen | i'm fairly sure it should have dissolved after the war of 1812 |
| 04:16.32 | hydrogen | nothing has happened since then there that matters |
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| 04:16.48 | Roey | heh |
| 04:16.52 | illogic-al | hydrogen: don't be jealous 'cause we have good health care |
| 04:16.59 | troy | I just found this on the web "I just spoke to illogic-al a couple of days ago. He's part of the kde development team." teehee :P |
| 04:16.59 | Roey | where are you, hydrogen? ('everywhere' doesn't count) |
| 04:17.15 | hydrogen | The best damn state in the nation |
| 04:17.18 | hydrogen | New Hampshire! |
| 04:17.20 | Roey | MAYLAND! |
| 04:17.22 | illogic-al | and you will refer to us as the Commonwealth of Massachusetts thankyouverymuch. |
| 04:17.26 | Roey | hydrogen: oh |
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| 04:17.36 | Roey | hydrogen: NH has this bill before them, I'm sure you've heard |
| 04:17.45 | grendal_prime | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:17.50 | Roey | hydrogen: is it decriminalization or outright legalization? |
| 04:18.04 | illogic-al | grendal_prime: no, it's in .local somewhere |
| 04:18.15 | hydrogen | you talking about marijuana? |
| 04:18.18 | grendal_prime | its in the .local/share/Trash/ |
| 04:18.18 | hydrogen | I didn't think we did either |
| 04:18.26 | hydrogen | i highly doubt we did |
| 04:18.34 | Roey | hydrogen: cannabis if you want to get technical about it |
| 04:18.35 | hydrogen | rightest state in the nation |
| 04:18.41 | hydrogen | We havn't legalized it |
| 04:18.47 | hydrogen | unless it happened in the past few months |
| 04:18.49 | illogic-al | yet... |
| 04:19.02 | Roey | hydrogen: check out norml's web site; there's a bill, with republican backing, I think, calling for its legalization. |
| 04:19.06 | Roey | or something to that effect. |
| 04:19.09 | hydrogen | NH happens to be the whitest state in the nation |
| 04:19.13 | Roey | wow |
| 04:19.19 | illogic-al | it's true. |
| 04:19.21 | Roey | previously AK, right? |
| 04:19.25 | illogic-al | they fired all the black folk. |
| 04:19.33 | Roey | I enjoy the diversity of DC |
| 04:19.36 | hydrogen | i don't know why we are either |
| 04:19.41 | Roey | troy: jeez |
| 04:19.55 | shadok | is there a plugin or a hack that could add a "rename automatically if different" entry when copying a file to a directory already containing a file with the same name ? (for konqueror) |
| 04:20.16 | illogic-al | shadok: yes. we call it a brain. |
| 04:20.20 | illogic-al | ZING! |
| 04:20.27 | illogic-al | shadok: my bad. j/k |
| 04:20.31 | troy | Roey: been like that for a few years now -- with a prescription, you can get a permit to grow up to three plants for personal use, if you want to grow it yourself... |
| 04:20.41 | shadok | ahem, on a few thousand of files it's called intelligence to ask for it :D |
| 04:21.03 | troy | Roey: of course, they also bar you from driving when they give you that prescription, so you give some, you get some |
| 04:21.09 | Renze | shadok: use krename before copying them? |
| 04:21.10 | illogic-al | shadok: the correct answer is "Maybe if you request that feature in the bug database" |
| 04:21.13 | Roey | http://www.fosters.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070126/FOSTERS05/70125042 |
| 04:21.15 | Roey | House Bill 92 |
| 04:21.35 | Roey | troy: who possibly wants to drive under the influence of any substance, really?! |
| 04:21.40 | shadok | Renze: i have it but it's very boring to open another app for that :) |
| 04:21.53 | shadok | illogic-al: i will if there isn't already a way to do it :) |
| 04:21.57 | Roey | troy, illogic-al: New Hampshire House Bill 92 |
| 04:22.44 | illogic-al | Roey: I agree. with all drugs. |
| 04:23.04 | foo | How do I select the clock to not be in 24 hour format? |
| 04:23.05 | illogic-al | people should be allowed to do with their bodies what they will. as long as they don't interfere with others. |
| 04:23.10 | Roey | illogic-al: I'm personally against this so-called drug war. |
| 04:23.13 | shadok | excepted tobacco maybe illogic-al :) |
| 04:23.17 | Roey | illogic-al: what a waste of time, money and effort. |
| 04:23.28 | Roey | troy: right, but the issue is liberty |
| 04:23.38 | Roey | troy: we're slowly traveling towards a nanny-state. |
| 04:23.53 | Roey | troy: it's a feature of the secular-progressives |
| 04:23.53 | grendal_prime | mthrefkr |
| 04:24.05 | troy | Roey: you know that the US has one fourth of the worlds prison population? mostly because of drugs :P |
| 04:24.13 | Roey | troy: that's why I'm against it |
| 04:24.15 | grendal_prime | i just found a bunch of files in that trascan folder that the gui does not list |
| 04:24.23 | grendal_prime | about 2 gigs worth of stuff. |
| 04:24.44 | Roey | troy: my mother works with a *grandmother* who was convicted and sentenced for fifteen years for trafficking cannabis. |
| 04:24.47 | Roey | I think it was that. |
| 04:24.59 | Roey | my mom's a counselor. |
| 04:25.03 | Roey | Ardonik: that place is toxic. |
| 04:25.08 | hydrogen | Roey: http://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/legislation/2007/HB0092.html |
| 04:25.33 | Roey | Ardonik: they're anti-israel and fiercely flaming liberal |
| 04:25.33 | Renze | Ardonik: you mean #give_me_reefer_or_give_me_death |
| 04:25.34 | Ardonik | Roey: Well, ##politics is mostly silent. #politics is full of people charitably described as stupid, I agree. |
| 04:25.38 | Roey | either that or they're libertarians who just don't like israle. |
| 04:25.39 | hydrogen | smoking marijuana leads to global warming. |
| 04:25.49 | troy | Ardonik: don't worry about it - it's mostly just saturday night boredom... |
| 04:25.49 | Roey | Ardonik: oh I didnt' realize there was a ##politics |
| 04:25.52 | grendal_prime | i take that back about 9 gigs worth of stuff |
| 04:25.55 | grendal_prime | wholy shit.. |
| 04:25.56 | Ardonik | Renze: I concur (without wishing to perpetuate this topic in any manner) |
| 04:26.04 | shadok | hydrogen: see jamaica, that's why caribean are so hot ^^ |
| 04:26.05 | Roey | (I mean, I thought that #politics went to ##politics with the Freendoe policy update) |
| 04:26.09 | troy | Ardonik: we'll get back to your regularly scheduled #kde in a moment :) |
| 04:26.14 | Ardonik | Oh, no, they're separate. |
| 04:26.17 | Ardonik | troy: :-) |
| 04:26.21 | Roey | ardonik :) |
| 04:26.32 | troy | anyway, Roey |
| 04:26.48 | troy | Roey: how many libs reported "not found" when you did ldd libflashplayer.so ? |
| 04:27.06 | Roey | it's not that |
| 04:27.25 | Roey | it's that the flash installer won't accept anything I give it (not even the default) for the install directory. |
| 04:27.38 | Roey | hydrogen, thanks for the link |
| 04:27.42 | grendal_prime | libflashplaer.so? your instaling that manually? debian etch has a package for flash 9 now |
| 04:28.08 | grendal_prime | ive installed it on 4 desktops...np |
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| 04:30.06 | troy | grendal_prime: we're doing a bit of hackery... getting flashplayer32 to play nice with konq64 |
| 04:30.18 | troy | grendal_prime: it works, but you have to do some things by hand... |
| 04:30.28 | grendal_prime | ahhh |
| 04:30.37 | Renze | troy: be sure to write a HOWTO |
| 04:30.42 | grendal_prime | konq64? |
| 04:30.53 | Renze | 64 bit konqueror |
| 04:31.06 | grendal_prime | noshit. |
| 04:31.39 | Renze | troy: are you using nspluginwrapper at all? |
| 04:31.49 | Roey | troy: yeah he does I think |
| 04:31.51 | Roey | er |
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| 04:31.54 | Roey | Renze: I think he does |
| 04:32.10 | troy | Renze: yeah - that's how it works |
| 04:32.23 | grendal_prime | i was under the impression that the kde suite ran on ..well whatever it was installed on..didn think that the arch speed would have anything to do with it? |
| 04:32.27 | troy | Renze: I use the 32bit nspluginviewer and nspluginscan with 64 bit konq... |
| 04:32.27 | Renze | troy: ah... I'd heard something about other methods |
| 04:32.44 | troy | Renze: that lets the flash32 embed in konq64... |
| 04:32.57 | Renze | grendal_prime: the fact that flash is only available as 32 bit makes it a little more difficult |
| 04:33.15 | hydrogen | its an awesome thing that flash sucks then |
| 04:33.21 | hydrogen | or i might be missing out |
| 04:33.32 | troy | Renze: since the nspluginviewer loads the plugins in a different process anyway - unlike firefox which runs the plugin in the same process |
| 04:33.50 | troy | Renze: which is why for firefox there's all that chroot crap |
| 04:34.05 | Renze | troy: be sure to write a howto so I can use it when I get a new PC :D |
| 04:34.25 | troy | Renze: I did write one for ubuntu once - but it didn't get a lot of response... |
| 04:34.40 | Renze | troy: write one for gentoo instead ;) |
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| 04:35.10 | troy | Renze: you'll have a harder time for gentoo - since it requires installing a bunch of 32bit libs and such - |
| 04:35.22 | troy | Renze: and your build system won't want to build them for you |
| 04:35.30 | Renze | troy: true |
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| 04:36.34 | illogic-al | Roey: troy, Renze, et al. |
| 04:36.39 | illogic-al | g'night lads |
| 04:36.49 | Renze | nite illogic-[out] |
| 04:37.43 | troy | it's -35C right now here - the snowballs are having trouble sticking together... |
| 04:38.06 | Roey | see ya illogic-[out] |
| 04:38.12 | troy | they have the consistency of sand |
| 04:38.13 | Roey | troy: see, THAT is what is wrong with Canada |
| 04:38.14 | illogic-[out] | -35 C?! |
| 04:38.19 | Roey | How can people LIVE there!?!? |
| 04:38.26 | troy | illogic-[out]: http://weatheroffice.ec.gc.ca/city/pages/mb-38_metric_e.html |
| 04:38.52 | troy | Roey: we spend a lot of time indoors, or with many layers of clothing on... |
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| 04:39.07 | Renze | flannel! |
| 04:39.20 | Renze | and moose wrestling! |
| 04:39.39 | troy | On wednesday it's supposed to go above -20C for the first time in a week and a half - it'll be a nice break from the cold... |
| 04:40.33 | foo | <PROTECTED> |
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| 04:40.49 | illogic-[out] | lol |
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| 04:41.07 | Renze | 4 minute powersleep? |
| 04:41.24 | illogic-al | guffaws even |
| 04:41.53 | troy | foo: it should be under Country, Region and Language in the control panel |
| 04:42.43 | troy | foo: most of the world uses 24hour clocks, so it just defaults to that setting... |
| 04:42.54 | illogic-al | OR right click on the clock and go to "Date and Time Format..." :-) |
| 04:43.20 | illogic-al | foo: troy's lying by the way |
| 04:43.21 | Renze | everything is sticking to me |
| 04:43.26 | illogic-al | they did it just to annoy you. |
| 04:43.28 | foo | eh, what a PITA. |
| 04:43.33 | foo | I can't find this anywhere. |
| 04:43.49 | Renze | foo: the dropdown next to "time format" |
| 04:44.03 | illogic-al | foo: the Time and Dates tab... |
| 04:44.24 | foo | illogic-al: And where is it in there? |
| 04:44.30 | Renze | foo: the dropdown next to "time format" |
| 04:44.34 | troy | foo: what distro are you using? |
| 04:44.48 | foo | troy: kubuntu. |
| 04:44.54 | illogic-al | oh |
| 04:44.59 | illogic-al | that one |
| 04:45.00 | troy | foo: ALT-F2 "kcontrol" |
| 04:45.41 | troy | foo: then you'll find Country, Region and Language under "Regional and accessibility" -- go to the Time & Dates tab |
| 04:46.42 | foo | troy: ok, this is where I was. What do I cahnge here? |
| 04:47.01 | Renze | foo: click the arrow at the end of the dropdown next to "Time Format" |
| 04:47.05 | troy | foo: change "Time format" to something like "PH:MM:SS AMPM" (without quotes) |
| 04:47.19 | troy | or use the dropdown (which I didn't see) |
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| 04:47.58 | troy | foo: it'll force you to restart kicker before it takes effect though... |
| 04:48.48 | illogic-al | maybe if he unloads the clock and adds it back again it'll take effect |
| 04:49.07 | troy | illogic-al: possible too - but it's easier to just logout and back in (albeit slower) |
| 04:49.26 | Renze | troy: kubuntu users just tend to reboot :D |
| 04:49.29 | hydrogen | just killall kicker && kicker |
| 04:49.31 | hydrogen | from a shell |
| 04:49.34 | illogic-al | troy: even easier to paste a dcop command into the terminal :-) |
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| 04:50.14 | troy | Renze: ummm... /me checks uptime |
| 04:50.27 | troy | Renze: 22:50:58 up 36 days, 2:10, 4 users, load average: 0.08, 0.08, 0.09 |
| 04:50.36 | troy | Renze: that's my KDE 4 devel machine... |
| 04:50.39 | illogic-al | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:50.42 | illogic-al | oooooooh. |
| 04:50.49 | illogic-al | bur... |
| 04:50.52 | Renze | troy: but you're a power user, not a user :D |
| 04:50.56 | illogic-al | oh. nm. |
| 04:50.59 | hydrogen | brb |
| 04:50.59 | troy | Renze: 23:08:38 up 135 days, 4:35, 2 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 |
| 04:51.03 | hydrogen | hotswapping my motherboard |
| 04:51.04 | troy | Renze: that's my ubuntu server :) |
| 04:51.20 | troy | heh, load is almost null today on that one :) |
| 04:52.15 | illogic-al | http://www.illogic-al.org/wordpress/?p=4 |
| 04:52.46 | troy | illogic-al: ghaahaha |
| 04:53.15 | illogic-al | troy: it's a good read. weird characters notwithstanding :-) |
| 04:53.38 | troy | illogic-al: looks like quote marks got mis-encoded? |
| 04:53.52 | illogic-al | yeah. database import probs |
| 04:54.01 | illogic-al | maybe i should fix that... |
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| 04:55.04 | troy | illogic-al: I wrote my own blog software and said 'screw you unicode and related garbage' and just stored all my entries as plaintext files... never had a problem :) |
| 04:55.15 | Renze | omg... motorsport is so fscking boring... |
| 04:55.50 | illogic-al | troy: that is so 1999 |
| 04:56.26 | troy | illogic-al: come to think of it.... I might have started coding it in 1999 :P |
| 04:56.37 | illogic-al | lol |
| 04:57.16 | troy | illogic-al: actually, I've tried to replace it with a database backend but found that making the database connections was actually slower than reading it from the text files, for my limited scope |
| 04:57.58 | troy | since it's usually only one or two entries that are read over and over, they end up in the disk cache and it's pretty damn speedy for concurrent visits... |
| 04:58.41 | troy | whereas the database had to make new connections for each concurrent connection... |
| 04:58.58 | troy | (can't reuse an old connection if it's already busy) |
| 04:59.56 | illogic-al | you lost me at 'backend' :-) |
| 05:00.39 | troy | illogic-al: I don't want to see your backend, geez man... |
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| 05:04.54 | AshyIsMe | hmm |
| 05:05.09 | AshyIsMe | how do i make the focus follow the windows selected by alt-tab? |
| 05:06.16 | troy | g'night folks |
| 05:06.26 | snarkster | ok so i should have listned to you folks.. the stupid FC install script is asking for a cd that is non exictant |
| 05:06.55 | snarkster | "please insert Fedora Core disk -99 to continue" |
| 05:08.09 | snarkster | it shouldnt take 5 hours to install a linux operating system |
| 05:10.10 | illogic-al | archlinux? |
| 05:10.12 | illogic-al | :-) |
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| 05:11.05 | illogic-al | AshyIsMe: how does focus work now? |
| 05:11.17 | snarkster | yes Im going to give it a try. |
| 05:11.23 | snarkster | how do i start it via ftp |
| 05:11.32 | snarkster | and is it going to take forever to install |
| 05:11.36 | AshyIsMe | illogic-al, focus follows mouse |
| 05:11.58 | AshyIsMe | and raising windows with alt-tab doesnt move the focus into that window without moving the mouse into it |
| 05:12.35 | AshyIsMe | snarkster, what's wrong with ubuntu? |
| 05:13.17 | Faust-C | ubuntu is whats wrong w/ ubuntu |
| 05:13.34 | Faust-C | snarkster: omg your still going w/ fedora ... |
| 05:13.51 | Faust-C | snarkster: arch takes less than 15 mins base install |
| 05:14.02 | Faust-C | another 5 -10 for Desktop |
| 05:14.11 | illogic-al | AshyIsMe: you would have to change the focus policy then |
| 05:14.30 | illogic-al | so it takes 30 realistically |
| 05:14.38 | illogic-al | if you're familiar |
| 05:14.42 | Faust-C | illogic-al: huh ? |
| 05:14.57 | illogic-al | Faust-C: so it takes 30 minutesrealistically |
| 05:15.10 | illogic-al | he's not just going to do a base install |
| 05:15.11 | Faust-C | illogic-al: well for you maybe |
| 05:15.25 | AshyIsMe | illogic-al, oh cool, it was set to focus strictly follows mouse |
| 05:15.26 | Faust-C | i do a base install then install DE uppon boot |
| 05:15.40 | Faust-C | id rather be in the environemnt |
| 05:15.56 | Faust-C | than on cd |
| 05:15.59 | illogic-al | and you already know what you're doing |
| 05:16.21 | illogic-al | AshyIsMe: sorry. i thought i'd told you that :-) |
| 05:16.29 | illogic-al | oh. i did. :-) |
| 05:16.30 | snarkster | yes im ready |
| 05:17.03 | illogic-al | snarkster: it'll take anywhere from 30 mins - an hour to install. |
| 05:17.09 | Faust-C | illogic-al: true |
| 05:17.14 | snarkster | ok |
| 05:17.14 | illogic-al | are you going to be partitioning? |
| 05:18.13 | snarkster | yes I just installed a 160 gig drive. |
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| 05:18.21 | snarkster | do i need to use a live cd to do the ftp |
| 05:18.30 | illogic-al | nope |
| 05:18.37 | snarkster | ok |
| 05:18.38 | illogic-al | http://www.archlinux.org/static/docs/arch-install-guide.html |
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| 05:19.01 | illogic-al | if you have other questions, give a holler |
| 05:19.08 | illogic-al | or join #archlinux :-) |
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| 05:20.16 | snarkster | i have a duron proc.. |
| 05:20.29 | snarkster | is that going to be a problem |
| 05:20.30 | illogic-al | you're good |
| 05:20.34 | snarkster | ok |
| 05:20.44 | Faust-C | snarkster: im in #archlinux all the time so we can help |
| 05:20.58 | Faust-C | dont mind the jokes and stuff etc etc |
| 05:21.39 | illogic-al | i'm not in #archlinux, so... yeah. :-) |
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| 05:23.36 | illogic-al | hawaii. wow. |
| 05:23.42 | illogic-al | aloha |
| 05:26.33 | bz029 | aloha hehe |
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| 05:32.21 | bz029 | U can tell i grew up with windows |
| 05:32.39 | bz029 | I keep wishing there was a status bar for gentoo's compiling of KDE... its been going for HOURS |
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| 05:35.25 | Faust-C | lol pwnd by kde |
| 05:36.12 | snarkster | ok so i got the archlinux floppy imgs |
| 05:36.22 | Faust-C | arch has floppy images |
| 05:36.23 | snarkster | this is ridiculous |
| 05:36.26 | Faust-C | thats new to me |
| 05:36.28 | snarkster | yes |
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| 05:37.04 | Faust-C | snarkster: join #archlinux so you can get help |
| 05:37.40 | snarkster | ok gimme a sec |
| 05:37.47 | snarkster | im looking for some good floppies |
| 05:37.57 | Faust-C | kk |
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| 05:38.52 | snarkster | omg i cant remember what is the device name for the floppy drive?? |
| 05:39.12 | illogic-al | /dev/fd? |
| 05:39.31 | snarkster | isnt it like fdc or fd0 |
| 05:39.53 | illogic-al | bz029: it's only going to keep going for hours more |
| 05:40.14 | snarkster | fd0 |
| 05:40.36 | illogic-al | snarkster: well i'm not gonna do all the work for you :-0 |
| 05:40.43 | snarkster | :P |
| 05:45.17 | Faust-C | systems arent even made w/ floppies no more |
| 05:45.28 | illogic-al | anymore |
| 05:45.54 | Faust-C | no more im ghetto reconize my lyrical geniousnessness |
| 05:48.16 | illogic-al | lol @ Renze |
| 05:48.34 | Renze | fo' shizzle, mah nizzle |
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| 05:48.52 | Faust-C | illogic-al: what script is that ?? |
| 05:49.27 | illogic-al | /media |
| 05:49.31 | illogic-al | mofied |
| 05:49.35 | Faust-C | i se |
| 05:49.37 | illogic-al | modified too |
| 05:49.51 | illogic-al | from konversation |
| 05:49.58 | illogic-al | lol |
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| 05:58.38 | Faust-C | snarkster: why you leave lol |
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| 06:05.30 | snarkster | leave |
| 06:06.32 | snarkster | i didnt go anywhere but to get a cold drink |
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| 06:23.29 | P4C0 | hello guys, I can see in my kmail instalation, kmail 1.9.4 (kde 3.5) in new features: "Filtering of incoming mail for online IMAP accounts" is there any special configuration I need to do to achive this?? |
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| 06:28.14 | xsacha | hey, anyone here use konqueror? |
| 06:28.39 | xsacha | Jucato: can you load this page in konqueror? http://www.newscientisttech.com/article.ns?id=dn11093 |
| 06:28.50 | xsacha | it freezes for me |
| 06:29.14 | Jucato | ditto |
| 06:29.36 | xsacha | frozen? |
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| 06:30.05 | Jucato | uhuh |
| 06:30.19 | xsacha | annoyed me cause i let it go for a bit thinking that maybe it was just slow.. i left it for too long and then X was completely frozen |
| 06:30.58 | xsacha | starts off just konqueror freezes, then everything slows down, then i cant click anything, then mouse disappears -- gotta kill it quick |
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| 06:32.57 | whatsup103 | whats the best way to find a domain ? |
| 06:33.16 | Renze | xsacha: that page works fine for me |
| 06:33.27 | xsacha | what version of konqueror? |
| 06:33.30 | Renze | 3.5.6 |
| 06:33.35 | P4C0 | xsacha, it works for me... |
| 06:33.37 | xsacha | oh im back on 3.5.5 |
| 06:33.43 | Jucato | must be Kubuntu :P |
| 06:33.53 | xsacha | mm |
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| 06:34.17 | P4C0 | I'm using konqueror 3.5.4... |
| 06:34.18 | Jucato | hah lol! now it loads |
| 06:34.30 | Jucato | ok that was just damn weird... |
| 06:34.42 | xsacha | hmm, it's random? |
| 06:35.04 | snarkster | i am totally out of cds. |
| 06:35.13 | snarkster | i cant belive this Im totally out of cdsa |
| 06:35.17 | snarkster | cds |
| 06:35.39 | Renze | they sell blank CDs in supermarkets here |
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| 06:37.44 | P4C0 | what's the status of kmail and imap filtering?? |
| 06:39.59 | Bxnp | i want to create a mailinglist with kmail is that possible to create with kmail |
| 06:40.12 | P4C0 | I have an online imap account, and a couple of filters that move the message from my imap inbox to other folder in the same imap server... I read in the docs that this is not supported but it's working :| |
| 06:40.25 | P4C0 | Bxnp, that's something that depends on server side... not client |
| 06:40.42 | Bxnp | oh, P4C0 |
| 06:41.00 | Bxnp | oke well i have my own domain hosted is it possible to create overthrere |
| 06:41.11 | Bxnp | and if yes how should i procede |
| 06:41.28 | Bxnp | maybe you have some good links wich i could visit, how to set this up |
| 06:41.35 | P4C0 | Bxnp, moment ;) |
| 06:42.46 | Bxnp | cool thanks man |
| 06:42.47 | P4C0 | Bxnp, you can try: http://www.list.org/ |
| 06:42.59 | Bxnp | thanks i will take a peak at this |
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| 06:45.00 | Bxnp | ehm, i cant use this P4C0, i dont have shell acces for my domain |
| 06:45.10 | Bxnp | so i cant compile this on the remote host |
| 06:45.53 | P4C0 | Bxnp, hummm you have ftp only? |
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| 06:46.14 | Bxnp | yep |
| 06:46.42 | Bxnp | i have ftp mysql php apache for my domain but no shell |
| 06:47.12 | Renze | write yourself some shell access with php ;) |
| 06:47.29 | Bxnp | lol, i dont think they like that concept |
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| 06:51.28 | P4C0 | humm if you find the way to put all messages that comes to x account into a php or mailbox somewhere readable by the php scripts, you may be able to write your own... sending email in php is no problem, with PHPMailer class (imap support, also with ssl) problem is getting the emails... |
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| 06:56.17 | P4C0 | Bxnp, there's http://www.phplist.com/ but this is one way only... (sending messages to a log of users in a database or something) once again, the hard part is to get the messages received into somewhere and form that you can read and use... |
| 06:56.52 | Bxnp | oke let me get into that |
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| 06:57.30 | P4C0 | Bxnp, did you try asking your admin about this?? maybe they can provided this feautre for a resonable price or help you maybe? |
| 06:57.33 | Bxnp | what about this P4C0, its kinda old could you take a look at it |
| 06:57.39 | Bxnp | http://www.fraw.org.uk/download/ssp/ssp-03.html |
| 06:58.19 | Bxnp | it uses kmail as a client kinda server |
| 06:58.28 | P4C0 | interesting :) |
| 06:58.51 | Bxnp | anyway normaly i did not use kmail since reasently |
| 07:02.08 | P4C0 | Bxnp, I think it will work ;) |
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| 07:03.46 | P4C0 | Bxnp, the problem with that is that if you are not running kmail, the list is not working :p |
| 07:05.08 | Bxnp | but i am always running kmail |
| 07:05.25 | Bxnp | but i see what you mean |
| 07:05.34 | Bxnp | for example if my box goes down it does not work |
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| 07:06.09 | P4C0 | Bxnp, maybe you can find a similar way with fetchmail, pine or mutt or similar, and do it in a sh script that you can run in the background... |
| 07:07.06 | Bxnp | if that is the case i try this way with kmail, |
| 07:07.37 | Bxnp | anyway P4C0 question do you read the newspaper |
| 07:07.43 | P4C0 | Bxnp, yes, but it's not that bad.. usually with mailing list users don't expect a real time replies.. if it takes a couple of hours or even a day, it's ok, and if you are trying to handle a lot of traffic you should think of using another method |
| 07:07.53 | P4C0 | newspaper? what do you mean? |
| 07:08.35 | Bxnp | i know but i guess in the beginning it will not generate a lott of traffic |
| 07:08.49 | P4C0 | Bxnp, also in the kmail setup, you have to manually add the members of the list... if it grows too big that can be a problem |
| 07:08.56 | Bxnp | like the wallstreet yournal or some other newspaper |
| 07:09.10 | Bxnp | why is that P4C0 |
| 07:09.16 | P4C0 | Bxnp, not really, I read local newspaper from time to time |
| 07:09.23 | Bxnp | i could make a list of those users and only put in the name of the list |
| 07:09.34 | Bxnp | for the redirecting |
| 07:10.00 | Bxnp | the only problem i have with redirect is, that users will see the mail is redirected wich is not a nice view |
| 07:10.44 | P4C0 | Bxnp, didn't know that :p you mean like an address book list? |
| 07:11.05 | P4C0 | Bxnp, you can manipulate the headers |
| 07:11.21 | Bxnp | yes |
| 07:11.31 | Bxnp | the reason i asked is this |
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| 08:11.47 | monzie | hi all |
| 08:11.56 | monzie | i have kde 3.5.5 |
| 08:12.20 | monzie | i am unable to turn on menu transluceny, even though i have AIGLX installed |
| 08:12.34 | monzie | can anyone give me hint as to how to go about it? |
| 08:13.09 | texnofobix | not even in teh settings? |
| 08:13.28 | Jucato | monzie: KControl -> Appearance & Themes -> Style -> Effects tab |
| 08:14.12 | monzie | Jucato: I know..but it's grayed out. |
| 08:14.26 | Renze | monzie: tick the top checkbox |
| 08:14.54 | monzie | Renze: you mean "Enable GUI effects, right?" |
| 08:14.59 | Renze | monzie: um, yes |
| 08:14.59 | snarkster | right |
| 08:15.03 | monzie | Renze: i have already ticked that |
| 08:15.13 | Renze | monzie: then it should not be greyed out |
| 08:15.16 | texnofobix | monzie the nerd core guy? |
| 08:15.25 | monzie | texnofobix: lol |
| 08:15.34 | monzie | texnofobix: i am not a nerd core guy |
| 08:15.39 | Jucato | monzie: and then select Menu effect: Make translucent ? |
| 08:15.45 | Renze | monzie: did you select "make translucent" next to menu effect? |
| 08:15.49 | Renze | snap! |
| 08:16.01 | monzie | Renze: so so so so stupid of me |
| 08:16.52 | Jucato | O.o |
| 08:16.58 | texnofobix | there is guy called monzy |
| 08:17.00 | texnofobix | i think? |
| 08:17.09 | texnofobix | i'm losing my mind its 3am |
| 08:17.16 | Renze | no, it's 9:17pm |
| 08:17.24 | monzie | Jucato: Renze, it still does not work.. the menus are as opaque as ever |
| 08:17.36 | Renze | monzie: did you adjust the stuff down the bottom? |
| 08:17.44 | monzie | Renze: yes |
| 08:17.57 | Renze | monzie: and you are aware that KDE3 doesn't support XGL/AIGLX, right? that is coming in KDE4 |
| 08:18.05 | Renze | monzie: it is fake translucency |
| 08:18.11 | monzie | Renze: oh ok |
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| 08:18.50 | texnofobix | kde4 is gonna be sweet ... |
| 08:18.53 | texnofobix | i hope |
| 08:18.54 | Jucato | although the menu translucency seems "real" enough... |
| 08:19.15 | Renze | Jucato: it's still fake, because window contents behind the menu don't update |
| 08:19.27 | monzie | texnofobix: i have it running on my system. Though nowhere near stable.. i love the look already |
| 08:20.07 | texnofobix | i havent put the time to get it yet |
| 08:20.18 | texnofobix | i'm too lazy and am waiting on an ebuild |
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| 08:20.41 | Renze | texnofobix: add the "kde" overlay... it has ebuilds for svn |
| 08:20.51 | texnofobix | hmm |
| 08:21.11 | texnofobix | but its not 'stable' |
| 08:21.17 | Renze | well, duh :D |
| 08:21.23 | texnofobix | neither is beryl |
| 08:21.31 | texnofobix | i get the ugly black windows :( |
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| 08:21.55 | texnofobix | E17? |
| 08:21.58 | texnofobix | tv show? |
| 08:22.01 | Jucato | Enlightenment |
| 08:22.05 | Jucato | that's E! |
| 08:22.08 | Renze | Enlightenment 0.17 |
| 08:22.21 | Renze | in development longer than Vista |
| 08:22.22 | texnofobix | oh ... i'm out of the WM loop |
| 08:22.47 | Jucato | Renze: true, and yet they can do effects long before Compiz et al. |
| 08:23.08 | Jucato | I don't care how long they've been in dev... I just care about the fact that they can do these things |
| 08:23.13 | Renze | Jucato: that's because they use a fullscreen opengl window for their desktop |
| 08:23.19 | texnofobix | Renze: is it stable enough to use? |
| 08:23.41 | Renze | texnofobix: never used it... and I suspect it will probably never be released. it is just renderman's playground |
| 08:24.00 | Jucato | it's in perpetual development, but usable and stable (mostly) |
| 08:24.41 | Renze | it is just as much of a hack as XGL, though... AIGLX is a tidier solution |
| 08:24.49 | canllaith | Renze: It's very light on cpu though, I am impressed with E17 effects. |
| 08:24.57 | Jucato | but you could also say the same about FOSS projects... everything is in perpetual development... "releases" can be just considered as sort of "landmarks" |
| 08:25.12 | canllaith | They ran well on my 700MHz 256MB dell I had 2 laptops ago |
| 08:25.18 | Renze | canllaith: considering how long renderman has been playing with this stuff, I wouldn't be surprised |
| 08:25.20 | Jucato | I have to agree with canllaith |
| 08:25.43 | Jucato | but then again... these are all eye candy effects... |
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| 09:00.05 | bxnp | anybody have experience in programming with ajax |
| 09:00.22 | oGALAXYo | linux banned from selling novell :) |
| 09:00.39 | texnofobix | ?? |
| 09:01.46 | Renze | I think he means novell banned from selling linux |
| 09:01.59 | oGALAXYo | nono, it was correct how i wrote it... |
| 09:02.03 | oGALAXYo | i did that on purpose. |
| 09:03.59 | oGALAXYo | i just woke up and read that headliner.. now reading the well funded great comments given by the slashdot audience.. and of course reading osnews.com too :) |
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| 09:12.00 | Q-collective | lol |
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| 09:19.32 | XVampireX | oGALAXYo: It's not banned yet, and novell would be banned from selling gnu |
| 09:19.57 | XVampireX | I wonder what Novell is thinking at the moment |
| 09:20.03 | oGALAXYo | heh |
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| 09:20.40 | oGALAXYo | i recall all those people who said "thanks novell you heroes from giving sco some shits".. and i said something like "hey dont hype them too much, we will probably see them doing something bad too".. and see... |
| 09:20.43 | oGALAXYo | i was right again. |
| 09:21.29 | XVampireX | :P |
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| 09:22.47 | oGALAXYo | SCO, the sound gay man is doing while choking a c**k.... |
| 09:22.51 | oGALAXYo | ** == censored.. |
| 09:23.48 | XVampireX | oGALAXYo: What? |
| 09:24.21 | XVampireX | you got problems with gays? :P |
| 09:24.23 | oGALAXYo | never mind :) ... it was an old slogan we had in the former efnet #lwz channel.. |
| 09:24.59 | Renze | ah... efnet... that explains everything |
| 09:25.09 | oGALAXYo | heh |
| 09:25.15 | XVampireX | ? |
| 09:25.38 | Shirakawasuna | wow, sounds stupid :) |
| 09:25.40 | oGALAXYo | i was on ircnet, efnet..... i am irc'ing since 13 years or so... |
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| 09:26.03 | tstaerk | your doctor can help you to stop irc'ing |
| 09:26.37 | oGALAXYo | tstaerk: you will reach "13 years of ircing" one day too.. |
| 09:26.47 | Shirakawasuna | I probably will ;) |
| 09:26.57 | Shirakawasuna | although I won't spend it making up stupid sayings |
| 09:26.59 | Renze | oGALAXYo: since 1991 for me |
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| 09:27.08 | Q-collective | I'm on 23 channels atm, is that considered "not normal"? |
| 09:27.10 | Q-collective | :> |
| 09:27.24 | devilsadvocate | its very normal for the Q |
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| 09:27.54 | Q-collective | devilsadvocate: ah, good, got a bit worried there |
| 09:28.08 | oGALAXYo | Renze: around 1991 ircing was not really popular, people spent more on bulletin board systems (at least coming from the amiga).... ircing more or less came attractive around 1993-1994 or so.. |
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| 09:28.26 | Renze | oGALAXYo: I was always an early adopter |
| 09:28.55 | Renze | using grapevine on my Amiga 2000 |
| 09:28.55 | oGALAXYo | yup |
| 09:29.09 | oGALAXYo | grapevine the mag ? |
| 09:29.15 | oGALAXYo | lsd ? |
| 09:29.16 | Renze | grapevine the irc client |
| 09:29.24 | oGALAXYo | oh |
| 09:29.33 | oGALAXYo | amIRC here. |
| 09:29.43 | Q-collective | heh, I was 10 at 1994, still no computer in sight |
| 09:29.49 | Q-collective | :( |
| 09:29.50 | Renze | amIRC came along later... but I was already hooked on grapevine |
| 09:30.11 | Shirakawasuna | Q-collective: ha, I was 8, but I used computers ;) |
| 09:30.29 | Shirakawasuna | downloaded lots of spyware for my dad's computer, I did (in the form of 'free games') ;) |
| 09:30.46 | Q-collective | oh wait, I was 9 for most of 1994 btw ;p |
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| 09:31.09 | texnofobix | Q-collective: i had a Commodore 64 |
| 09:31.12 | XVampireX | Renze is old |
| 09:31.28 | oGALAXYo | heh |
| 09:31.30 | texnofobix | i was 10 also in 94 |
| 09:31.32 | Q-collective | Renze: damn, thought you were way younger :o |
| 09:31.43 | XVampireX | I was... uhm... 6? in 1994 |
| 09:31.43 | Renze | Q-collective: told you I'm an old fart |
| 09:31.49 | Q-collective | hehe |
| 09:32.07 | texnofobix | i feel old at 23 :( |
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| 09:32.13 | oGALAXYo | Renze: i was formerly more into coding stuff, trading (mail and bbs).... |
| 09:32.25 | sredna | no comment |
| 09:32.25 | Renze | oGALAXYo: I ran a bbs for several years |
| 09:32.33 | Q-collective | texnofobix: I feel old aswell at 22 |
| 09:32.34 | Q-collective | :> |
| 09:32.42 | oGALAXYo | Renze: heh.... WTC ? :) enchantet forrest ? |
| 09:32.54 | oGALAXYo | oh wait... netherlands ? |
| 09:32.56 | oGALAXYo | boondocks ? |
| 09:32.57 | Renze | oGALAXYo: no, just a small insignificant one in NZ |
| 09:33.02 | oGALAXYo | ahh |
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| 09:33.21 | oGALAXYo | Renze: you are familar with ice station zebra, danse macabre etc then ? |
| 09:33.33 | monzie | why was kvim removed from kde? |
| 09:33.35 | Renze | they ring bells, but my recollection is fading |
| 09:34.04 | monzie | texnofobix: i am 23 as well! feel the same as you feel |
| 09:34.15 | Renze | I'm surrounded by children... |
| 09:34.34 | oGALAXYo | Renze: there was also one bbs in kuwait that time.. called "free q-w8" |
| 09:35.00 | texnofobix | i never got into bbs |
| 09:35.01 | tstaerk | monzie, good idea, but you need to inherit from KPart |
| 09:35.02 | oGALAXYo | ran by some shaik who had a shitload of money paying quartex, paradox that time.. |
| 09:35.04 | Renze | oGALAXYo: I just stuck to the NZ BBS scene, and Usenet and email via UUCP |
| 09:35.04 | texnofobix | i didnt have a modem |
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| 09:35.54 | monzie | tstaerk: i understand. I have been working with kparts these days. specifically with khtml |
| 09:35.59 | Renze | downloading news packets at 2400 baud is fun ;) |
| 09:36.16 | oGALAXYo | 2k4 without MNP was fun.. |
| 09:36.16 | tstaerk | monzie, you could improve a tutorial in a wiki |
| 09:36.21 | oGALAXYo | hehehe no error correction nothing. |
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| 09:36.43 | monzie | but was kvim that bad is it? I did not ever use it.. but i needed something to bridge kate and vim |
| 09:36.48 | texnofobix | ok i need to go to bed |
| 09:37.04 | texnofobix | the StupidBowl is on techinically later today |
| 09:37.07 | tstaerk | monzie, no idea that kvim existed |
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| 09:37.41 | monzie | kate is good, vim is cool.. but combining the both of them would be so so cool! |
| 09:37.50 | monzie | tstaerk: it did |
| 09:38.26 | jordo23 | Sometimes when I click on a download to a link, it tries to open the file in Kate. When I Shift-Click that same file, it tries to download file "download.php". How do I get it to just download the file? |
| 09:38.26 | tstaerk | so, kvim is good ? |
| 09:38.27 | monzie | tstaerk: here's the dot kde announcement http://dot.kde.org/1018455930/ |
| 09:38.34 | Renze | kvim is a dead project... there is another with a weird name... yzis, I think |
| 09:38.43 | monzie | tstaerk: probably.. never used it. the idea sounds like a turn on. |
| 09:39.07 | Shirakawasuna | jordo23: go to file association for plain text files, tell it to 'ask' every time |
| 09:39.52 | jordo23 | Shirakawasuna: with ya....how do you edit file associations in KDE again? |
| 09:40.20 | Shirakawasuna | jordo23: you can do it from kcontrol or open up konqueror and go to settings > preferences |
| 09:40.42 | oGALAXYo | heh |
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| 09:40.43 | Shirakawasuna | so much nicer than gnome, iirc |
| 09:40.50 | oGALAXYo | italy and football |
| 09:40.51 | tstaerk | monzie, use kdevelop - it has templates for kparts, maybe also kateparts |
| 09:41.11 | monzie | tstaerk: i already used kdevelop |
| 09:41.22 | tstaerk | monzie, very good. |
| 09:41.43 | monzie | Renze: yZis seems to be dead |
| 09:42.02 | sredna | monzie: if you have thoughts about improving kate, you could write kwrite-devel@kde.org |
| 09:42.09 | Renze | monzie: I suspected as much |
| 09:42.17 | sredna | monzie: help would be much appreciated :) |
| 09:42.19 | jordo23 | Shirakawasuna: The interface goes by file ext.....what do I edit? |
| 09:43.05 | Shirakawasuna | txt/plain text |
| 09:43.06 | monzie | sredna: surely. Thanks |
| 09:43.08 | Shirakawasuna | it has a nice search feature |
| 09:43.18 | monzie | sredna: i would really like to contribute |
| 09:44.03 | sredna | monzie: i can tell you that there is an idea about adding something like vim command mode to kate, combined with the existing command line and scripting that would probably bring you a long way |
| 09:44.05 | tstaerk | monzie, see bugs.kde.org and http://developernew.kde.org/Getting_Started |
| 09:44.26 | thechris | I am having an issue with the save/load dialogs |
| 09:44.33 | monzie | sredna: that would be so cooool |
| 09:44.33 | jordo23 | Shirakawasuna: Where do you set that in Kcontrol? |
| 09:44.35 | thechris | i have files that exist that are not listed |
| 09:44.42 | Shirakawasuna | jordo23: file assocations |
| 09:44.45 | thechris | even with "all files" as the filter |
| 09:44.49 | Shirakawasuna | jordo23: kcontrol als ohas a handy search feature |
| 09:45.07 | Renze | thechris: they might not be shown because of the filetype setting down the bottom |
| 09:45.15 | sredna | jordo23: you can either rightclick and select 'save link as...' or drag-drop the link to a folder or to your desktop or use kget |
| 09:45.28 | tstaerk | thechris, do these files start with a dot ? |
| 09:45.30 | thechris | Renze: "all types" |
| 09:45.35 | thechris | tstaerk: nope |
| 09:45.50 | monzie | tstaerk: thanks a lot. I've read the docs you mentioned. In fact i've developed functional testing tool.. something like selenium using kdelibs.. mainly KHTML |
| 09:45.59 | jordo23 | Shirakawasuna: I see that......but the problem is that it thinks download.php is the file.....when it is really the script... |
| 09:45.59 | tstaerk | thechris, which application ? |
| 09:46.01 | Renze | thechris: do you use one of those distros that hack in a new hidden files mechanism? |
| 09:46.11 | thechris | tstaerk: kate |
| 09:46.14 | thechris | Renze: no |
| 09:46.18 | Shirakawasuna | jordo23: so? Have you tried my advice? |
| 09:46.21 | Shirakawasuna | it should ask you now |
| 09:46.30 | Shirakawasuna | when you click 'save as' it'll have the right filename |
| 09:46.32 | monzie | tstaerk: i am waiting for it to be released as open source by my company |
| 09:46.33 | tstaerk | monzie, that sounds interesting - publish it at kde-apps.org |
| 09:46.48 | thechris | konsole, koctave are able to see the files. svn is able to see the files. kate has no clue |
| 09:47.11 | tstaerk | thechris, give me one example file name |
| 09:47.16 | thechris | pllstats.m |
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| 09:47.21 | jordo23 | Shirakawasuna: Yeah....but I don't know whether to set the association for .php or what.... |
| 09:47.31 | sredna | thechris: kate has no clue about what? |
| 09:47.32 | thechris | I can type that in though, and that works |
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| 09:47.51 | monzie | tstaerk: i'm waiting for the go-ahead from my company |
| 09:47.52 | thechris | sredna: kate is unaware that pllstats.m exists. |
| 09:47.52 | tstaerk | thechris, and kate does not show it to you in the load dialog ? |
| 09:48.02 | thechris | tstaerk: correct. |
| 09:48.07 | jordo23 | still tries to save download.php |
| 09:48.30 | thechris | its like its cached the contents of the dir and won't refresh |
| 09:48.37 | tstaerk | monzie, so, you wrote it in your working time ? |
| 09:48.48 | monzie | tstaerk: yeah. As a part of my job |
| 09:48.55 | sredna | thechris: press f5? |
| 09:49.23 | Shirakawasuna | jordo23: shouldn't need to, it's thinking it's a plain text file |
| 09:49.25 | sredna | thechris: and the file browser in kate, isn't that showing your file? |
| 09:49.40 | Shirakawasuna | jordo23: if you set it to ask (in the embedded section), it'll bring up a dialog next time |
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| 09:50.22 | jordo23 | Shirakawasuna: embedded section of Kcontrol file association mgr? |
| 09:50.25 | thechris | f5 was able to refresh the list |
| 09:51.17 | tstaerk | thechris, so, problem solved ? |
| 09:51.57 | tstaerk | thechris, I did a touch pllstats.m; kate and kate saw that file. |
| 09:51.59 | sredna | thechris: the kde diretcory lister is using either polling or inotify (if present) to automatically refresh directories, so maybe there is an issue with your system |
| 09:52.07 | monzie | sredna: is the vi command line support more likely to be a plugin for kate? |
| 09:52.32 | XVampireX | what do you kde people use instead of vim, or a kde interface to vim |
| 09:52.41 | tstaerk | XVampireX, kwrite |
| 09:52.43 | sredna | monzie: it will be in KatePart, when/if it happens (currently we have more than enough work porting to kde4) |
| 09:52.47 | oGALAXYo | vim |
| 09:52.48 | monzie | XVampireX: kate |
| 09:52.55 | oGALAXYo | are there any other editors ? |
| 09:53.02 | oGALAXYo | :) |
| 09:53.06 | XVampireX | No idea |
| 09:53.14 | jordo23 | Shirakawasuna: In the embedded tab of file associations in Konqueror, I show that ask everytime is checked..... |
| 09:53.17 | XVampireX | Kate, hmm, okey |
| 09:53.21 | monzie | XVampireX: I think kate is good enough for most jobs.. |
| 09:53.31 | XVampireX | True thing |
| 09:53.40 | sredna | monzie: but if it happens, it should be available for all katepart clients, including kdevelop etc |
| 09:54.10 | monzie | sredna: yeah.And the would be very cool |
| 09:54.32 | sredna | monzie: kate can split files, press c-s-l|t |
| 09:54.46 | monzie | Speed is somthing that a GUI cannot give you. You need a command mode for that. |
| 09:54.57 | tstaerk | monzie, bullshit |
| 09:54.58 | sredna | c-s-r to remove current frame if split |
| 09:55.36 | monzie | tstaerk: that's what i believe. you've your views and i've mine |
| 09:56.24 | tstaerk | you can measure this |
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| 09:57.53 | monzie | stuff like copy-pasting... you know.. the equivalent of 5yy |
| 09:59.47 | monzie | when i'm starting to work on large projects.. i typically type the header in vim. and the basic framework level stuff. When it gets bigger, i shift to kdevelop, to use method/member completion |
| 09:59.53 | monzie | but that is just my usage |
| 10:00.03 | tstaerk | monzie, sorry for my reaction, but we had a big benchmark to do. Everyone was mad about reducing graphics and stuff. |
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| 10:00.38 | monzie | tstaerk: it's ok. It's good to be passionate about stuff you like/love :) |
| 10:01.04 | tstaerk | I said, this is a psychological issue. If you see a beautiful gui turning into an ugly un-understandable cli, you think "at least speed must have improved". |
| 10:01.12 | tstaerk | but that does not need to be the case. |
| 10:01.34 | monzie | tstaerk: it's only for people who |
| 10:02.22 | Shirakawasuna | jordo23: maybe you have a php file setting in specific |
| 10:02.35 | monzie | tstaerk: it's only for people who're interested in cli. Cli will always involving a learning curve. But look at gedit. No disrespect meant to it's developers, but though it's simple, it's pretty unusable for programming |
| 10:03.05 | monzie | tstaerk: you can have a look at scribes. It's borrowed some ideas from kate. and it's a GTK app. but it's good |
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| 10:03.45 | tstaerk | yes, comibining good ideas is my favorite :) |
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| 10:04.37 | monzie | tstaerk: i believe writing a programmer's editor is a very very tough job. |
| 10:05.06 | SpaceSyl | Plop |
| 10:05.23 | monzie | tstaerk: becuase programmers themselves are very passionate and demanding customer (if you can use the word for OSS editors) for your software. |
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| 10:07.41 | sredna | monzie: what feature(s) of scribes do you think should be in kate? |
| 10:08.25 | sredna | monzie: oh, and maybe you would like to join #kate, which is where we discuss kate development? |
| 10:08.38 | monzie | sredna: sure |
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| 10:16.38 | wildfire-- | which fonts should i use in kde? |
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| 10:17.23 | monzie | wildfire--: any font you like! |
| 10:17.32 | monzie | wildfire--: i use cursor |
| 10:17.43 | Worf | preferrably fonts that don't make your eye bleed |
| 10:18.11 | wildfire-- | monzie, true.. but i need something that looks good. right now im using Sans Serif 10.. i dont like it really |
| 10:18.21 | monzie | wildfire--: try cursor |
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| 10:18.34 | monzie | wildfire--: looks a little like the default OS X font |
| 10:18.53 | wildfire-- | hmm maybe i should use win32 fonts :) |
| 10:19.03 | sredna | cursor? where do i get that |
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| 10:19.36 | shadok | i use dejavu |
| 10:20.06 | monzie | sredna: comes with the kwin-bagira package in Kubuntu. |
| 10:20.27 | Desintegr | I use tahoma |
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| 10:38.32 | monzie | now3d: you really need to program using qt3.3. You probably wouldn't need to unless you are targeting the stable KDE release |
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| 10:43.14 | pinotree | morning PhilRod |
| 10:43.28 | PhilRod | hiya pinotree |
| 10:43.41 | pinotree | PhilRod: how's konversation then? =) |
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| 10:44.24 | PhilRod | working fine. I'm quite liking it |
| 10:44.47 | PhilRod | although I haven't really got into any of the more advanced features yet |
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| 10:50.31 | wildfire-- | hi.. which kde package contains the laptop battrey monitor? |
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| 11:11.11 | wildfire-- | can somebody.. anybody please tell me which kde package has the battery monitor for laptops? |
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| 11:12.58 | wildfire-- | lol |
| 11:13.39 | shadok | depends on your distro |
| 11:13.46 | wildfire-- | generally? |
| 11:13.55 | shadok | no generality |
| 11:14.00 | wildfire-- | my distro uses native kde source tarballs |
| 11:14.07 | wildfire-- | (gentoo) |
| 11:14.11 | shadok | ha :) |
| 11:14.19 | wildfire-- | whick kde source tarball has battery monitor stuff? |
| 11:14.20 | pinotree | it _is_ a distro |
| 11:14.37 | pinotree | and even gentoo uses to patch kde in some places |
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| 11:15.48 | shadok | wildfire--: kde-base/klaptopdaemon |
| 11:16.15 | wildfire-- | shadok, you rock |
| 11:16.27 | shadok | eix -S battery |grep kde -C 2 |
| 11:16.30 | shadok | eix rocks :) |
| 11:16.52 | Renze | wildfire--: kde split ebuilds do not equate to the native kde source tarballs, even if those tarballs are used |
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| 11:17.47 | thiago | klaptopdaemon is part of kdeutils |
| 11:17.51 | wildfire-- | shadok, i did emerge -s kde|grep battery |
| 11:18.12 | shadok | emerge -s i way slower than eix |
| 11:18.20 | shadok | emerge it too, you _need_ it |
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| 11:18.53 | wildfire-- | which package has the kde blutetooth stuff? |
| 11:19.03 | Renze | kdebluetooth? |
| 11:19.11 | thiago | none |
| 11:19.17 | thiago | kdebluetooth is an extragear tool |
| 11:21.24 | wildfire-- | hmm ok now how do i setup hibernate and suspend? |
| 11:21.52 | thiago | run klaptopdaemon |
| 11:21.54 | thiago | configure it |
| 11:22.04 | thiago | the last tab allows you to set setuid on the helper tool |
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| 11:24.54 | wildfire-- | uhh in the button actions tab in klaptopdaemon, why is hbernate not an option for when the lid is closed? |
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| 12:06.23 | Dark_Apostrophe | How does one tell aRts to adjust the volume via terminal? |
| 12:09.24 | thiago | using amixer |
| 12:09.51 | Ardonik | I just did arts<TAB> from the command line, and discovered artsshell volume in short order. |
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| 12:16.30 | asaasa | hi all |
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| 12:18.22 | PhilRod | hi asaasa |
| 12:18.26 | asaasa | i'm using kde 3.5.5 in debian x64 and kwin crashes when launching beryl, i can't keep beryl and kwin both running? or is there a way to do this? thanks |
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| 12:23.40 | pinotree | asaasa: there can be only ONE window manager |
| 12:24.05 | asaasa | pinotree, and beryl shouldn't show me something like kwin does? |
| 12:24.36 | pinotree | no idea, but this is not the place for questions about beryl |
| 12:25.08 | asaasa | pinotree, yes, you're right, it's probably a beryl question |
| 12:25.13 | asaasa | thanks anyway |
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| 12:25.48 | wils | what do I need to install to get power management running under kde? |
| 12:25.55 | wils | are there any kde power management tools? |
| 12:27.37 | oGALAXYo | wils: yes |
| 12:29.47 | wils | hmmm |
| 12:30.09 | wils | what is the battery status monitor called under kde? |
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| 12:37.13 | sredna | wils: there is a control panel where you can enable it, it will show up in the systray |
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| 12:37.36 | Zaba_ | hi all. |
| 12:37.48 | wils | hmmm, I dont have that particular control panel enabled I don't think |
| 12:37.52 | Zaba_ | why did bold text disappear when konsole has transparent bg? |
| 12:37.59 | wils | do I need to install something? |
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| 12:40.02 | sredna | wils: i can't remember what provides it |
| 12:40.07 | annma | what control panel? |
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| 12:40.20 | sredna | annma: laptop battery monitor |
| 12:40.25 | sredna | an hi :) |
| 12:40.33 | Jucato | isn't that distro-specific? |
| 12:40.33 | wils | hi sredna |
| 12:40.36 | Jucato | hi annma!!!! |
| 12:40.37 | annma | kdeutils |
| 12:40.46 | annma | hi sredna hi all |
| 12:40.50 | wils | got it |
| 12:40.57 | annma | klaptopdawemon in kdeutils |
| 12:41.42 | wils | I'm using gentoo so it has been repackaged |
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| 12:42.18 | wils | kde-base/klaptopdaemon |
| 12:42.23 | annma | eeerk |
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| 12:42.29 | annma | how disgraceful |
| 12:42.37 | wils | yup |
| 12:42.43 | annma | I thought Gentoo uses KDE tarballs |
| 12:42.48 | wils | I can never find anything since they did that |
| 12:43.02 | sredna | gentoo aims at having a package pr file on the system ;) |
| 12:43.10 | MvG | They use tarballs but build multiple packages from the same tarballs. |
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| 12:43.24 | Jucato | annma: they did. but I thought they started having split ebuilds... |
| 12:43.26 | MvG | The idea imo was that you only have to rebuild what changes. |
| 12:43.33 | wils | they do... this whole kde split ebuilds fiasco has been a complete anoyance |
| 12:43.53 | annma | you always only rebuild what changes, that"s the build system motto |
| 12:44.01 | MvG | It's in line with the idea that you only have to install what you use. |
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| 12:44.40 | MvG | annma: You being a dev, yes. But gentoo is a source distribution, but doesn't keep object files and stuff between builds of different kde releases. |
| 12:45.13 | annma | in terms of disk spac eit does not matter very much now |
| 12:45.13 | wils | yes... it is true that you only have to rebuild what changes... but it has to unpackage the tar.bz2 for each and every thing I install!!!!! |
| 12:45.13 | annma | it all miss the point of source then |
| 12:45.14 | wils | so the performance of installing/upgrading is no faster than before. |
| 12:45.16 | wils | loll |
| 12:45.44 | annma | I already had this chat about Debian recently |
| 12:46.00 | MvG | annma: Some points to source: you can choose the parts you want, specify the compiler flags you want, apply patches easily, ... |
| 12:46.10 | annma | in the end with all these splits users lose |
| 12:46.28 | annma | well choose the code you want, even in source is not so evident |
| 12:46.35 | annma | there are libs for ex in kde modules |
| 12:46.46 | wils | so if I install two apps within kdebase it runs tar -xjf for each application |
| 12:47.05 | annma | wrong |
| 12:47.12 | annma | you will need libs dependencies |
| 12:47.19 | MvG | The user looses efficiency but gains flexibility. |
| 12:47.26 | annma | well no |
| 12:47.46 | annma | I cannot get mp3 support in amarok for example |
| 12:47.59 | annma | I just don't get what is missing |
| 12:48.01 | PhilRod | you can make such a system work, provided the defaults are sane |
| 12:48.54 | wils | gentoo uses use flags on packages/tarballs... I think they should have just used the use flag system to let people choose the parts of kde they want rather than split ebuilds |
| 12:49.10 | PhilRod | anyway, this is a discussion for #gentoo |
| 12:49.21 | MvG | wils: That would mean that whenever you want to add a single app, you have to recompile the whole package. |
| 12:49.26 | PhilRod | annma: are you on debian? |
| 12:49.39 | wils | annma, does sound work on your system? |
| 12:49.44 | wils | appart from mp3 |
| 12:49.44 | annma | no, Mandriva but KDE compiled |
| 12:49.47 | wils | ie, alsa |
| 12:49.54 | annma | sounds work yues |
| 12:50.07 | annma | badly but works and I play flacs in amaroK |
| 12:50.08 | wils | amarok can use multiple backends |
| 12:50.09 | Jucato | PhilRod: which *BSD do you use, btw? |
| 12:50.16 | annma | I don't want gstreamer |
| 12:50.20 | PhilRod | Jucato: freebsd |
| 12:50.23 | wils | I think I useing the xine-libs |
| 12:50.24 | Jucato | ah |
| 12:50.25 | annma | i use xine for DVDs already |
| 12:50.29 | Jucato | just wanted to know lol |
| 12:50.35 | annma | I use xine as well |
| 12:50.53 | PhilRod | annma: does xine play mp3s? |
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| 12:51.04 | wils | if xine plays mp3s |
| 12:51.11 | annma | PhilRod: I did not try |
| 12:51.17 | Jucato | yes xine does |
| 12:51.22 | wils | then just go into the amarok configuration and choose xine as your sound system |
| 12:51.32 | Jucato | but it needs some codecs. at least in Kubuntu |
| 12:51.34 | wils | then it will work |
| 12:52.13 | PhilRod | annma: amarok's default backend is xine, IIRC. So you need to make sure xine can play mp3s |
| 12:52.20 | annma | xine cannot |
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| 12:52.40 | annma | asking in my channel distro |
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| 12:53.41 | Jucato | xine can play mp3s, but needs the appropriate codecs. in Kubuntu, the package libxine-extracodecs does it.. but it's different for every distro... |
| 12:53.55 | annma | ok |
| 12:54.25 | Jucato | the package description says it installs these plugins: * xineplug_decode_faad.so * xineplug_decode_ff.so * xineplug_decode_mad.so |
| 12:56.28 | MvG | Those xineplug libs are part of the gentoo package xine-lib. |
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| 12:57.23 | annma | it says "no demuxer plugins" |
| 12:57.23 | Dark_Apostrophe | How does one tell aRts to adjust the volume via terminal? |
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| 12:58.18 | dpy | hi guys |
| 12:58.42 | dpy | does anyone know if it is possible to apply some sort of skinning to kicker ? |
| 12:59.10 | Jucato | not to kicker itself, but the K Menu, using KBFX |
| 12:59.12 | dpy | i.e. like borders/background/alphachannels and stuff |
| 12:59.19 | PhilRod | Dark_Apostrophe: dcop kmix bla |
| 12:59.24 | Jucato | you can do backgrounds on kicker |
| 12:59.39 | Jucato | dpy: backgrounds or transluceny (but not both) |
| 12:59.43 | dpy | Jucato: yes on the separate buttons you mean |
| 12:59.58 | dpy | yes, I was thinking more about real skinning |
| 13:00.01 | Jucato | ah no... on the whole kicker (including child panels) |
| 13:00.05 | dpy | like xmms/mplayer does it |
| 13:00.26 | Jucato | dpy: I think some superkaramba themes can actually act as a sort of kicker... I vaguely remember one them |
| 13:00.44 | dpy | checkin' |
| 13:00.46 | Jucato | dpy: although be careful when testing them. you can only have one instance of the system tray running at one time |
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| 13:04.52 | dpy | cool |
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| 13:21.18 | adioe3 | is there a way to select different fonts as replacements for original ones? like to choose DejaVu Serif to be where Times New Roman is set? |
| 13:21.26 | adioe3 | in konqueror ofcourse? |
| 13:22.10 | PhilRod | not that I know of |
| 13:22.36 | adioe3 | well than in KDE or X.org in general? |
| 13:22.42 | Jucato | Isn't the web page that determines alternatives? |
| 13:23.08 | adioe3 | yes, but some fonts look hidious, especially the mysql.com site |
| 13:23.32 | PhilRod | for xorg in general you migt be able to do something with fontconfig. I'm not sure |
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| 13:25.36 | annma | found my problem: plays as root but not as annma |
| 13:25.47 | annma | no idea why though |
| 13:25.49 | Jucato | O.o |
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| 13:27.39 | Jucato | ah the mysteries of life |
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| 13:31.46 | annma | fixed! |
| 13:32.04 | Jucato | heh nice |
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| 13:34.38 | Jucato | ha :) |
| 13:34.55 | annma | :) is this script directly in KSirc? |
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| 13:37.42 | sredna | scary... |
| 13:38.46 | sredna | there is a lot of spam on kde-docs-english |
| 13:38.52 | annma | yes |
| 13:38.59 | annma | I noticed that |
| 13:39.02 | Jucato | :) |
| 13:39.06 | annma | PhilRod: who is the admin? |
| 13:39.09 | PhilRod | me |
| 13:39.12 | pinotree | not only on that list |
| 13:39.13 | PhilRod | and lauri and askie |
| 13:39.22 | pinotree | kde-i18n-it got spam too |
| 13:39.33 | pinotree | even kde-commits |
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| 13:43.26 | pinotree | ~dot-kde |
| 13:43.38 | apt | *Don't* remove ~/.kde: as well as your personal settings, it contains your address book and may contain your email. Rename the directory and restart KDE instead |
| 13:43.44 | pinotree | WindowsUninstall: ^^ :) |
| 13:44.04 | WindowsUninstall | :P |
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| 13:53.47 | expose | Hi |
| 13:53.51 | expose | how can i get rid of those [A]...[Z] boxes next to each link in konqueror when hitting the CTRL-Key? |
| 13:54.00 | expose | i guess it is somekind of accessibility option that i dont like, because everytime i want to open a new tab those boxes appear for a second or two... |
| 13:54.05 | tstaerk | expose, gooooood question |
| 13:54.18 | tstaerk | I have a bug report open to throw that "feature" out |
| 13:54.22 | pinotree | there's an option to be set in aconfig file |
| 13:54.28 | True_Friend | same with me i remove them by pressing escape |
| 13:54.33 | tstaerk | to answer your question, type CTRL again |
| 13:55.00 | evilek | can anybody help mi with "nextboot" |
| 13:55.14 | evilek | i'm using archlinux and "nextboot" option doesnt work |
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| 13:55.31 | tstaerk | evilek, try #archlinux or so |
| 13:55.38 | shadok | tstaerk: "throw it out" ? i love that feature, but having the option to disable it would be good imho |
| 13:55.41 | evilek | tried :) |
| 13:56.27 | expose | tstaerk: well, in the statusbar it says "Shortcuts enabled" but i dont know where to disable them |
| 13:56.27 | MuJ | ever tried to use konqueror without mouse? :| |
| 13:56.27 | expose | or turn them off or whatever |
| 13:56.29 | expose | MuJ: if one has no mouse there is elinks :-P |
| 13:56.35 | MuJ | I personally come and murder the person who removes that feature from konqi >:| |
| 13:56.39 | shadok | what will be the successor of dcop ? |
| 13:56.46 | expose | dbus? |
| 13:56.51 | shadok | hehe MuJ :) |
| 13:57.04 | shadok | expose: ah ok |
| 13:57.30 | shadok | is there already a kdbus application ? like kdcop but for dbus |
| 13:57.36 | expose | MuJ: i personally come and murder the person who doesnt remove it _and_ does not add a hint on how to turn this nasty thing off! |
| 13:57.57 | expose | [N] kde-misc/kdbus (~0.8.6): D-BUS service browser for KDE. |
| 13:58.02 | expose | answered? |
| 13:58.03 | expose | :-) |
| 13:58.30 | MuJ | why do both? your operator is wrong :| |
| 13:58.35 | expose | tstaerk: well - how can i turn it off now. i dont find anything |
| 13:59.06 | expose | MuJ: no, either it should be removed, or there should be a hint added on how to turn it off if one doesnt want that. |
| 13:59.09 | shadok | expose: sorry i didn't even search for myself, i was persuaded it wasn't in portage ^^ |
| 13:59.10 | tstaerk | press CTRL again |
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| 13:59.21 | MuJ | expose: so it should be OR.. not AND |
| 13:59.40 | MuJ | if you remove the feature AND add hint how to turn it off, it doesn't make sense :) |
| 13:59.57 | tstaerk | http://wiki.kde.org/tiki-index.php?page=Secret+Config+Settings#_Disable_the_accessibility_squares_CTRL_button_normally_activates_in_Konqueror_aka_Access_Keys_ |
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| 14:00.03 | expose | MuJ: no. if the it is "OR" i would murder that person althought it removed the feature or added a hint. i will only do it if the person does neither |
| 14:00.07 | expose | anyway. |
| 14:00.20 | expose | tstaerk: thanks! |
| 14:00.49 | MuJ | expose: you're talking about the wrong and :| |
| 14:02.32 | expose | hm? |
| 14:02.49 | expose | sry, i dont seem to be understanding you...well...anyway. |
| 14:02.59 | expose | "This will be in the GUI in kde4, unless the feature is improved to be less intrusive." good. |
| 14:03.52 | MuJ | yeah whatever.. I think it's nice feature but I agree that you should be able to turn it off |
| 14:05.03 | expose | cool...that command mentioned in the wiki actually worked :-) now i got a (imho) useable konqueror *g* |
| 14:06.59 | expose | MuJ: and - talking about the logical "and" i think you missed that my sentence was negatived :-) |
| 14:07.18 | expose | hm. maybe i'm still wrong. not that much of a code-head :-) |
| 14:07.24 | MuJ | OR you might just drop it already :D |
| 14:07.28 | MuJ | jk |
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| 14:08.28 | PhilRod | Jucato: did it get any discussion? Where did you submit it? |
| 14:08.34 | Dark_Apostrophe | *** YOU'RE USING autoconf (GNU Autoconf) 2.61. |
| 14:08.35 | Dark_Apostrophe | *** KDE requires autoconf 2.53 or newer |
| 14:08.35 | Dark_Apostrophe | make[1]: *** [cvs] Error 1 |
| 14:08.48 | Jucato | PhilRod: kfm-devel mailing list |
| 14:08.52 | Dark_Apostrophe | WTF? |
| 14:09.17 | tstaerk | expose, thanks for the feedback, I was looking for that config as well |
| 14:09.20 | PhilRod | Dark_Apostrophe: auto* has no backwards compatibility - you need the exact version |
| 14:09.21 | pinotree | Dark_Apostrophe: update the admin directory from branches/KDE/3.5/kde-common/admin |
| 14:09.23 | annma | Dark_Apostrophe: is admin/ up-to-date? |
| 14:09.42 | annma | what app is it Dark_Apostrophe ? |
| 14:09.44 | PhilRod | Jucato: was there any discussion? |
| 14:10.13 | Dark_Apostrophe | annma: ktouch |
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| 14:10.25 | annma | from where? |
| 14:10.26 | Jucato | PhilRod: only one reply "Well, I think if the accesskeys were bound to a different key, they would not be the problem they are currently. Using a qualifier key for a shortcut has its problems. Luciano |
| 14:10.35 | annma | KTouch is in kdeedu module |
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| 14:10.41 | Dark_Apostrophe | annma: source |
| 14:10.47 | annma | where source? |
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| 14:11.02 | annma | Ktouch doe snot make standalone releases afaik |
| 14:11.14 | annma | Dark_Apostrophe: link to source? |
| 14:11.34 | Dark_Apostrophe | Tarbaii from its homepage |
| 14:11.40 | PhilRod | Jucato: this is silly. Everyone agrees that it should be fixed, but for some reason it's not being done. Give me a minute |
| 14:11.42 | Dark_Apostrophe | ll* |
| 14:11.42 | annma | oh my |
| 14:11.47 | Killerpope | is here anyone who can help me with kate? |
| 14:11.50 | annma | Dark_Apostrophe: URL please |
| 14:11.59 | Dark_Apostrophe | http://ktouch.sourceforge.net/download.php |
| 14:12.04 | smileaf | Killerpope: its better to just ask the question. |
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| 14:12.30 | tstaerk | Dark_Apostrophe: do you have SUSE ? |
| 14:12.35 | annma | oh yeah, a bit old |
| 14:12.38 | annma | that's why |
| 14:12.50 | annma | the admin/ is too old |
| 14:12.52 | Killerpope | kate displays ö, ä, ü only as boxes |
| 14:13.02 | Dark_Apostrophe | tstaerk: No |
| 14:13.06 | Killerpope | while all other programs display it normaly |
| 14:13.13 | annma | Killerpope: use a utf8 aware font and set Kate to utf8 |
| 14:13.19 | tstaerk | Dark_Apostrophe, check that you have autoconf and automake installed. |
| 14:13.21 | Jucato | PhilRod: well, it's not really my place to say... all I wanted was to give a GUI way to turn that on/off, since no one has fixed the supposedly "root" of the problem... |
| 14:13.22 | annma | Dark_Apostrophe: what distro? |
| 14:13.23 | Dark_Apostrophe | Killerpope: UTF-8 |
| 14:13.28 | Killerpope | it is set tu UTF-8 |
| 14:13.33 | Killerpope | that's the problem |
| 14:13.37 | annma | Killerpope: so change font |
| 14:13.42 | Dark_Apostrophe | annma: Debian Etch |
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| 14:13.51 | annma | Dark_Apostrophe: apt-get install ktouch |
| 14:14.03 | Dark_Apostrophe | annma: I did |
| 14:14.09 | annma | and? |
| 14:14.17 | annma | don't tell me they don't have it |
| 14:14.21 | Dark_Apostrophe | annma: It's too old |
| 14:14.22 | Killerpope | thx, changing the font helped |
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| 14:14.30 | annma | too old? how come? |
| 14:14.39 | annma | Dark_Apostrophe: it'll match your KDE version probably |
| 14:14.45 | Dark_Apostrophe | annma: It's Debian |
| 14:14.50 | Dark_Apostrophe | annma: Guess |
| 14:14.51 | annma | Dark_Apostrophe: what KDE version do you have then? |
| 14:14.57 | tstaerk | 2.1 ? |
| 14:15.00 | annma | You compiled a new KDE then? |
| 14:15.00 | Jucato | etch only has 3.5.5. for now |
| 14:15.02 | Jucato | afaik |
| 14:15.10 | annma | 3.5.5 is very OK |
| 14:15.16 | pinotree | annma: no |
| 14:15.23 | annma | no? |
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| 14:15.28 | pinotree | ktouch author released a version improved |
| 14:15.36 | pinotree | wrt to the one in kde 3.5.5 |
| 14:15.38 | Dark_Apostrophe | annma: Excuse my slow typing |
| 14:15.41 | annma | ok |
| 14:15.46 | annma | in that case it's OK |
| 14:15.50 | annma | but in general it is not |
| 14:15.52 | shadok | Jucato: hear the moo of larry |
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| 14:16.10 | Jucato | shadok: no thanks. the efts still need me :P |
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| 14:16.15 | annma | Dark_Apostrophe: just update the admin and iut'll be OK |
| 14:16.15 | shadok | Jucato: i'm running kde 3.5.6 from the first day :) |
| 14:16.17 | Dark_Apostrophe | annma: I just switched from QWERTY |
| 14:16.32 | annma | to what? |
| 14:16.33 | shadok | Jucato: but you don't need them, do you ? ^^ |
| 14:16.36 | Jucato | shadok: I was running "3.5.6" days before you had it :P |
| 14:16.37 | Dark_Apostrophe | to Colemak |
| 14:16.37 | tstaerk | Dark_Apostrophe, to dvorak ? |
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| 14:16.51 | annma | Dark_Apostrophe: not French I hope? |
| 14:16.51 | tstaerk | my god |
| 14:16.51 | shadok | Jucato: stable i mean and without hassle |
| 14:16.58 | annma | Colemak? what is that? |
| 14:17.04 | Jucato | shadok: it was stable, thank you :) |
| 14:17.12 | Jucato | shadok: the one beneath it wasn't... |
| 14:17.15 | shadok | Jucato: but not hassle-free :D |
| 14:17.23 | annma | Dark_Apostrophe: the KTouch site says it is in that tarball? |
| 14:17.28 | Jucato | shadok: I learned a lot :) |
| 14:17.38 | Dark_Apostrophe | Mixture of QWERTY and dvorak |
| 14:17.42 | annma | Dark_Apostrophe: the KTouch site says it is in that tarball? |
| 14:18.01 | Dark_Apostrophe | What is? |
| 14:18.06 | annma | the layout |
| 14:18.15 | annma | the support for it in KTouch |
| 14:18.19 | shadok | Jucato: i have to find something else so... :p |
| 14:18.29 | annma | layout + lessons |
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| 14:18.40 | annma | I don't see Colemak in it |
| 14:18.44 | Jucato | shadok: :P |
| 14:18.55 | annma | Dark_Apostrophe: I fixed some KTouch stuff recently |
| 14:18.58 | Dark_Apostrophe | annma: Not in Debians version |
| 14:19.07 | annma | I have SOURCE version here Dark_Apostrophe |
| 14:19.13 | shadok | Jucato: 64bits hassle-free, are you tempted by that ? :D |
| 14:19.24 | annma | I worked on KTouch keyboard layouts support Dark_Apostrophe |
| 14:19.26 | Dark_Apostrophe | 1.5.3 |
| 14:19.32 | Jucato | shadok: no. I only have 32-bit :P |
| 14:19.35 | Dark_Apostrophe | annma: ooh |
| 14:19.39 | shadok | grrrr ^^ |
| 14:19.46 | annma | Dark_Apostrophe: is it written on KTouch website that your tarball has what you want? |
| 14:20.26 | Dark_Apostrophe | annma: Could you write a norwegian colemak one? |
| 14:20.30 | shadok | Jucato: tell me when you'll change your cpu, we'll have a little discussion with Renz e ^^ |
| 14:20.52 | annma | Dark_Apostrophe: probably not as I have no specs for it |
| 14:20.54 | Jucato | shadok: that won't happen for a long time... |
| 14:20.56 | Jucato | : |
| 14:20.57 | Jucato | :P |
| 14:21.00 | Dark_Apostrophe | http://folk.uio.no/obech/Images/Stuff/Colemak/Norsk_Utvida_Colemak.gif |
| 14:21.09 | Dark_Apostrophe | annma: ^ |
| 14:21.25 | PhilRod | argh! |
| 14:21.27 | annma | Dark_Apostrophe: the KTouch you want does not have that support |
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| 14:22.14 | Dark_Apostrophe | annma: I want whichever supports colemak |
| 14:22.35 | PhilRod | can anyone confirm this: search for something on google in konqueror. Click on the "cached" link. On the page that appears, there's a "google" frame, and a frame containing the cached page. Mouseover one of the links in the "google" frame. They disappear... |
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| 14:23.27 | shadok | g2g, later |
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| 14:23.45 | pipitas | hi, all :-) |
| 14:24.06 | pipitas | Please, I need some volunteers with KWord installed to test what is described here: http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=140006#c18 (using this bugzilla-attched file: http://bugs.kde.org/attachment.cgi?id=19545&action=view ) |
| 14:24.26 | pipitas | (feedback by email please) |
| 14:24.52 | Dark_Apostrophe | annma: I can't figure out how to add the coemak file in ktouch |
| 14:24.57 | pipitas | (feedback to "pfeifle at kde dot org") |
| 14:25.00 | Dark_Apostrophe | http://colemak.com/KTouch |
| 14:25.10 | Dark_Apostrophe | Rays how to ^ |
| 14:25.31 | Dark_Apostrophe | But I can't see it |
| 14:25.34 | tstaerk | PhilRod, no |
| 14:25.39 | Dark_Apostrophe | says* |
| 14:26.17 | Dark_Apostrophe | Wait, I think I got it |
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| 14:27.24 | PhilRod | tstaerk: what version? |
| 14:27.39 | tstaerk | from yesterday :) |
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| 14:28.14 | tstaerk | PhilRod, sorry, wrong computer... 3.5.5 with SUSE 10.2 |
| 14:28.17 | Jucato | annma: btw, I took down my KAFS. somehow, installing the Kubuntu default packages also touched some of the KDE SVN configs, most particularly themes and konqueror profiles... |
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| 14:29.08 | PhilRod | can anyone with 3.5.6 try it? |
| 14:29.48 | Jucato | PhilRod: the Google cache ting? |
| 14:29.50 | Jucato | thing* |
| 14:29.52 | PhilRod | yeah |
| 14:29.55 | Jucato | let me check |
| 14:31.15 | Jucato | PhilRod: nothing disappears: KDE 3.5.6 Kubuntu |
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| 14:32.50 | PhilRod | I'm seeing it at http://216.239.59.104/search?q=cache:0_fsmmS9ahgJ:www.kdedevelopers.org/node/1569+http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/1569&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&ie=UTF-8 |
| 14:33.27 | Jucato | hm.. |
| 14:33.32 | Jucato | yes |
| 14:33.46 | notme | PhilRod: not here on gentoo |
| 14:33.58 | PhilRod | notme: what kde version? |
| 14:33.59 | annma | Dark_Apostrophe: in $KDEDIR/share/apps/ktouch |
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| 14:34.07 | Jucato | PhilRod: only happens on that link you gave |
| 14:34.10 | notme | 3.5.6 |
| 14:34.58 | annma | Dark_Apostrophe: copy the .xml and .kbd files here |
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| 14:35.44 | YippMN | is there a way to inlarge the font like the file edit and so on? this mornign when i booted up all the fonts were really smaell , also like the names in here to the left are way small and when i open a window to select files in program it's way samll , also i can barely read where i'm typing in here hmmm ? |
| 14:36.08 | Jucato | PhilRod: also, it seems that when I mouse over those links, the cursor doesn't change to the usual hand cursor (or whatever it's set to when hovering over clickable items) |
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| 14:36.28 | PhilRod | notme: do you get the problem on the link I gave? |
| 14:36.52 | YippMN | also when i right clikc and get a popdown in any program the text is soo tiny i can hardly resad it ? |
| 14:37.04 | PhilRod | YippMN: control center -> appearance & themes -> fonts |
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| 14:38.05 | YippMN | phil that doesn't seem to help the text size if things like the file , edit and so on |
| 14:38.10 | notme | PhilRod:no but it seems that the page doesn't load properly, I only get the first frame but not the cached data |
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| 14:38.29 | PhilRod | notme: that's because the site is down. If you click on the "cached text" link you can get it |
| 14:38.42 | PhilRod | odd bug in google, that one |
| 14:39.49 | notme | PhilRod: your right, you have to click it, now it happening to me as well. |
| 14:40.05 | spawn57 | i made the switch to amarok |
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| 14:40.41 | PhilRod | anyone want to look into it properly? I'm trying to do some other stuff right now |
| 14:40.58 | YippMN | PhilRod, hmm yeah guess i just haevto enlarge all fonts more things look better now but weird why it would so that hmm |
| 14:41.15 | PhilRod | YippMN: perhaps you changed your dpi |
| 14:42.08 | YippMN | PhilRod, yeah i just now did set the dpi higher , but i didn't do anything different from when i shut down last night to when i booted today goofy computers hehe |
| 14:42.57 | YippMN | now , how do i setup html links in thunderbird to bring up the webpage in firefox? |
| 14:43.21 | PhilRod | ask in #thunderbird |
| 14:43.57 | YippMN | yeah knew you was gonnsa say that :) |
| 14:44.37 | devilsadvocate | is there any reasonably fast way of making everything on kde smaller? |
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| 14:45.22 | devilsadvocate | smaller as in the icons, panels, perhaps font sizes |
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| 14:45.50 | PhilRod | devilsadvocate: ask YippMN, he seems to have found it ;-) |
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| 14:46.24 | YippMN | devilsadvocate, you can either make your display smaller , or in control make all fonts smaller |
| 14:47.19 | Q-collective | or use a higher resolution |
| 14:47.20 | Q-collective | ;) |
| 14:47.25 | devilsadvocate | YippMN, and how about the icon size, panel thickness |
| 14:47.54 | YippMN | devilsadvocate, right click on your desktop , select configure desktop, then go down to display and on the right you see a list to change from say 1290x1040 or so just try it and see |
| 14:48.02 | devilsadvocate | hmm... i''l have to do them all manually i suppose |
| 14:48.16 | devilsadvocate | nah YippMN . my monitor is LFT, native at 1024 |
| 14:48.24 | Q-collective | so? |
| 14:48.35 | YippMN | devilsadvocate, the panel should go down some too , althought there is a setting for making the panel small or mormal too |
| 14:48.44 | Q-collective | my native is also 1024 or something, running it at 1400 though |
| 14:48.47 | devilsadvocate | thanks YippMN , Q-collective |
| 14:48.53 | Q-collective | np |
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| 14:49.00 | devilsadvocate | Q-collective, the screen then *cough* scrools |
| 14:49.12 | Q-collective | does it? |
| 14:49.14 | Q-collective | hmm |
| 14:49.16 | Q-collective | oh well |
| 14:49.17 | Q-collective | :) |
| 14:50.29 | YippMN | devilsadvocate, alot od setting like that you just have to play with , so your saying you can't change screen size in display then? |
| 14:51.23 | devilsadvocate | YippMN, i cant change the size of a pixel. if i drop below 1024, then the screen doesn toccupy the ffull monitor |
| 14:51.45 | Bxnp | do we have kde lovers allso an ap like jokosher |
| 14:51.59 | Bxnp | looking for a nice kde app to mix my podcast |
| 14:52.24 | YippMN | devilsadvocate, can you change setting on your monitor , like vert size and horz size and position? |
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| 14:53.07 | devilsadvocate | hmm... where is the resolution setting? i nt seeem to find it :| |
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| 14:53.39 | devilsadvocate | i dont have a display tab :| |
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| 14:54.11 | YippMN | devilsadvocate, where are you looking |
| 14:54.33 | YippMN | devilsadvocate, go into control center |
| 14:54.37 | devilsadvocate | configure desktop.. where the wallpaper setting is |
| 14:54.38 | devilsadvocate | ok |
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| 14:56.16 | devilsadvocate | hmm |
| 14:56.22 | devilsadvocate | it doesnt let me go beyond 1024 |
| 14:56.27 | devilsadvocate | and the refresh rate of 60 |
| 14:56.41 | devilsadvocate | although im sure my refresh rate is 75 |
| 14:56.44 | YippMN | hmmmm |
| 14:57.10 | devilsadvocate | looks like i have a more serious issue here |
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| 14:57.30 | YippMN | you mite have not set the type of driber for your video card right in your xorg.conf |
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| 14:57.39 | YippMN | driver |
| 14:57.41 | funky | hey |
| 14:57.52 | YippMN | devilsadvocate, what distro? |
| 14:57.53 | devilsadvocate | i have an intel 815. its hard to get it rong:P |
| 14:57.55 | Jucato | hi Sho_ |
| 14:57.58 | devilsadvocate | kubuntu |
| 14:58.04 | Jucato | oops.. wrong channel... |
| 14:58.20 | Jucato | bah he's here too anyway... |
| 14:58.54 | spawn57 | haha |
| 14:58.59 | spawn57 | heya Jucato =P |
| 14:58.59 | YippMN | devilsadvocate, i would go to #kubuntu :) it makes a big difference to have the right driver set in xorg.comf , i just went through getting that right myself |
| 14:59.07 | Jucato | hi spawn57 |
| 14:59.14 | devilsadvocate | thanks YippMN |
| 14:59.25 | funky | is there any way to modify the default behavior of konqueror when pressing the middle mouse button ? i'd like to open the link in a new tab instead of in a new window |
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| 15:00.56 | Jucato | funky: Settings -> Configure Konqueror -> Web Behavior -> "Open links in new tab instead of new window" |
| 15:01.04 | PhilRod | funky: yup - settings -> configure konq -> what Jucato said |
| 15:01.11 | Jucato | lol :) |
| 15:03.22 | Anarky | what is the proper chan to ask something about booting linux from USB, syslinux, isolinux and this kind of things ? |
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| 15:04.56 | picca | does anyone know what the lisa daemon offers - is it worth installing it. i use samba mostly |
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| 15:05.28 | aimee | Hi Jucato, have a good day! |
| 15:05.36 | Jucato | hi aimee! |
| 15:05.50 | spawn57 | Anarky: usually your distribution. |
| 15:05.51 | aimee | Jucato, have you ever used SIM-IM before? |
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| 15:05.59 | Jucato | hm... no... |
| 15:06.23 | Anarky | spawn57: it's distro independant, but will try some disto's chan, thanks |
| 15:06.32 | aimee | I don't know why in my fedora system I cannot connect with yahoo account |
| 15:06.40 | aimee | but in windows it work fine |
| 15:06.44 | YippMN | anyone have an idea how i set in firefox or thunderbird to popup a website when i clikc a link in thunderbird? |
| 15:06.49 | Jucato | aimee: using Kopete? |
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| 15:07.07 | aimee | yes, I'm using kopete right now, but I just wana try |
| 15:07.11 | Jucato | YippMN: better ask in a channel that provides support for MOzilla prodcuts |
| 15:07.18 | Jucato | YippMN: or your distro's channel |
| 15:07.19 | spawn57 | Anarky: distro independant? hmm, guess you can ask in here then |
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| 15:07.28 | Jucato | aimee: so in Kopete, you can connect to Yahoo? |
| 15:07.40 | aimee | yes, I can, actually |
| 15:07.53 | spawn57 | i can too |
| 15:08.00 | Jucato | ah, then double check your settings in that IM client (SIM-IM?) |
| 15:08.03 | YippMN | Jucato, yeah well someone just woke up in firefox :) |
| 15:08.06 | Jucato | but anyway, it's not a KDE app |
| 15:08.16 | Jucato | that was aimee, btw ^^ |
| 15:08.22 | Jucato | YippMN: gotta love timezones :) |
| 15:08.33 | Anarky | well, spawn57, I've got a computer unable to boot from USB (bad BIOS) and a system installed on an USB drive |
| 15:08.36 | aimee | SIM-IM isn't a kde apps? |
| 15:08.44 | aimee | I found it on kde-apps.org |
| 15:08.56 | Anarky | I'd like to create a CD capable of chain booting to the USB drive |
| 15:08.58 | PhilRod | spawn57: er, "distro-independent" != "relevant to ke" |
| 15:09.02 | Jucato | aimee: oh sorry |
| 15:09.12 | Jucato | aimee: I didn't know what it was :P |
| 15:09.16 | PhilRod | Anarky: try one of the general linux help channels - there are a few around on freenode I think |
| 15:09.17 | funky | thanks Jucato & PhilRod |
| 15:09.22 | PhilRod | s/ke/kde/ of course |
| 15:09.24 | spawn57 | PhilRod: i know i'm just checking if I'm point him to the right place |
| 15:09.32 | PhilRod | ok |
| 15:09.51 | spawn57 | Anarky: I think you can boot off your usb drive using grub, but I'm not sure about this, never tried it |
| 15:10.25 | MrGrim | spawn57: you still need bios support for usb mass storage |
| 15:10.33 | Anarky | PhilRod: yes, I think there are, but, what are the names :) |
| 15:10.33 | spawn57 | ah damn |
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| 15:10.49 | PhilRod | Anarky: /msg chanserv list #linux* |
| 15:10.50 | Anarky | spawn57: you can if your BIOS support it |
| 15:10.53 | PhilRod | and ##linux* |
| 15:10.58 | Anarky | mine doesn't |
| 15:11.11 | Anarky | PhilRod: thanks |
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| 15:11.16 | spawn57 | ah |
| 15:11.16 | Jucato | without the * |
| 15:11.18 | Jucato | ##linux |
| 15:11.31 | Anarky | I didn't know you can pass regexp to /list |
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| 15:11.39 | Jucato | PhilRod: some IRC clients might interpret '*' as part of the channel name :) |
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| 15:12.08 | PhilRod | Jucato: no, I want the star :-) |
| 15:12.15 | Jucato | heh lol :P |
| 15:12.35 | PhilRod | if you ask chanserv, it'll show you all the channels that begin with "#linux" |
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| 15:15.37 | akrus | hm, is the KDE support? :) |
| 15:15.42 | akrus | there* |
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| 15:16.38 | sredna | akrus: ask away |
| 15:16.49 | pinotree | ~ask |
| 15:16.59 | apt | it has been said that ask is Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise, and on-topic. Don't ask if you can ask a question first. Don't ask if a person is there, just ask what you intended to ask them. Better questions more frequently yield better answers. We are all here voluntarily. See also ... |
| 15:16.59 | akrus | oh thanks :) |
| 15:17.06 | akrus | my KDE stopped mounting CDs & SD Cards automatically |
| 15:17.15 | akrus | what's the problem? |
| 15:17.32 | annma | Dark_Apostrophe: did you manage it? |
| 15:17.35 | akrus | I know, just maybe this channel is not for support hehe :) |
| 15:17.40 | Jucato | wb annma!! |
| 15:17.43 | akrus | it's KDE 3.5.6 under Kubuntu 7.04 |
| 15:17.50 | annma | re |
| 15:17.56 | Jucato | akrus: Feisty? you should ask in #ubuntu+1 |
| 15:17.58 | akrus | same issue was with KDE 3.5.5 so looks like config problem |
| 15:18.16 | akrus | Jucato: it's not Feisty-related unfortunately :( |
| 15:18.23 | Jucato | akrus: this is for general, non-distro-specific/related, KDE support. |
| 15:18.31 | Jucato | akrus: are you absolutely sure it isn't? |
| 15:18.46 | Jucato | because mounting is mostly done with backends like pmount |
| 15:18.50 | akrus | but same issue happens all the time |
| 15:18.54 | akrus | and with clean install it's ok |
| 15:18.56 | Jucato | akrus: even in Edgy? |
| 15:19.08 | akrus | I don't talk about edgy :) |
| 15:19.13 | akrus | I tried installing clean Feisty |
| 15:19.17 | akrus | and it worked there |
| 15:19.22 | Jucato | then? |
| 15:19.28 | Jucato | when did it start acting up? |
| 15:19.35 | akrus | no idea |
| 15:19.39 | akrus | it just stopped :x |
| 15:19.46 | akrus | I have to mount everything manually... |
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| 15:20.05 | akrus | just maybe there's an option to enable/disable automount? |
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| 15:20.22 | Jucato | akrus: ok, here's the point. KDE itself doesn't do the mounting (afaik, please correct me if I'm wrong, annma/PhilRod). It relies on backends like pmount or ivman |
| 15:20.33 | akrus | hmmm... |
| 15:20.44 | Jucato | akrus: also, Feisty is still in alpha/beta stage, so most likely those things are affected |
| 15:20.47 | sredna | Jucato: hald and [qt]dbus |
| 15:20.54 | s_ssenel | hallo |
| 15:20.55 | Jucato | sredna: oh ok. thanks |
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| 15:21.21 | annma | Dark_Apostrophe: ping |
| 15:21.24 | akrus | ok, then another question |
| 15:21.29 | sredna | akrus: in the kde services panel, make sure the media notifier is running |
| 15:21.30 | akrus | oops, should not be in KDE :) |
| 15:21.43 | akrus | sredna: sorry, KDE services panel? |
| 15:21.52 | akrus | Jucato: are you on #kubuntu? |
| 15:22.01 | Jucato | akrus: yes, but not in #ubuntu+1 |
| 15:22.11 | Jucato | so I'm not informed of breakage/issues for Feisty |
| 15:22.13 | sredna | akrus: in the kde control center it is KDE Components->Service Manager |
| 15:22.28 | Jucato | if kcontrol was fixed in feisty already |
| 15:22.36 | akrus | kdecc in Ubuntu? x-X |
| 15:22.37 | Jucato | or systemsettings for that matter |
| 15:22.37 | akrus | x_X* |
| 15:22.48 | akrus | oh it works :D |
| 15:22.51 | Jucato | akrus: Alt+F2, kcontrol |
| 15:22.59 | akrus | Jucato: yeah yeah :) |
| 15:23.06 | Jucato | or in system settings terms: System Settings -> Advanced -> Service manager |
| 15:23.13 | sredna | akrus: also look at the Periphals->Storage Media panel |
| 15:23.17 | akrus | Cannot connect to KDED. |
| 15:24.05 | akrus | hm, cannot access service manager from anywhere |
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| 15:24.22 | sredna | well, then you need to start kded |
| 15:24.31 | akrus | shouldn't it be started? |
| 15:24.35 | akrus | ok now ok |
| 15:24.38 | sredna | that should be done by the kde startup |
| 15:24.42 | Jucato | weee! hi aseigo! :) |
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| 15:25.09 | aseigo | weee! boston. |
| 15:25.24 | KRF | hm, kwin is crashing since 3.5.6 occasionally... anyone else has this problem? |
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| 15:25.48 | Q-collective | KRF: no |
| 15:26.02 | Q-collective | can you repeat the steps towards a crash? |
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| 15:26.16 | Jucato | heh how are things there aseigo? :) |
| 15:26.22 | ZanQdo | hi |
| 15:26.26 | KRF | Q-collective, nope. it's just arbitrary i feel |
| 15:26.33 | ZanQdo | anyone remembers how to get rid of the Alt LMB = move window :-) |
| 15:26.48 | aseigo | ZanQdo: window behaviour control panel |
| 15:26.51 | aseigo | Jucato: good =) |
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| 15:27.21 | ZanQdo | were is it? |
| 15:27.29 | ZanQdo | I have being seraching for a long time :-p |
| 15:27.41 | ZanQdo | Im on suse 10.2 |
| 15:27.59 | Jucato | ZanQdo: kcontrol -> desktop -> window behavior -> window actions tab |
| 15:28.00 | ZanQdo | Jucato: interferes with some software I use :-) |
| 15:28.21 | Jucato | the Modifier key + left button |
| 15:28.50 | ZanQdo | ohh thanks man! |
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| 15:32.16 | wishie | when are kicker and konsole going to support real trans ? |
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| 15:33.50 | mankind_tweezer | wishie: i think probably not for a while -- if i understand right, the obstruction is that Qt3 doesn't support it |
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| 15:34.08 | akrus | hm |
| 15:34.11 | akrus | anyway |
| 15:34.17 | akrus | everything is started x_X |
| 15:34.33 | akrus | wow mounted |
| 15:34.36 | mankind_tweezer | wishie: so we might have to wait till kde4 |
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| 15:35.28 | akrus | ok now |
| 15:35.33 | akrus | thanks everyone |
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| 15:50.57 | annma | Dark_Apostrophe: ping |
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| 16:05.32 | pipitas | Please, I need some volunteers to test some KDEPrint/KWord functionality (you don't need a printer for this). Should be possible with 325 people in this #channel, no? |
| 16:06.05 | pipitas | Please, test what is described here: http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=140006#c18 (using this bugzilla-attched file: http://bugs.kde.org/attachment.cgi?id=19549&action=view ) |
| 16:06.59 | pipitas | (if you do so, please tell me here; but a more detailed feedback by email to "pfeifle at kde dot org" I'd very much appreciate) |
| 16:07.04 | dpy | is it possible to execute a script when the mouse pointer touches a corner or an edge of the screen ? |
| 16:08.16 | pipitas | dpy: yes, it is. AFAIK KDE doesn't block script execution just because a mouse pointer touches a corner or edge of the screen... |
| 16:08.19 | pipitas | :-) |
| 16:09.12 | dpy | uh |
| 16:09.25 | dpy | pipitas: that's not what I meant |
| 16:09.28 | pipitas | dpy: or did you mean: "Is it possible to trigger the execution of a script by touching the sreen border with the mouse pointer?" ?? |
| 16:09.31 | pipitas | :-) |
| 16:09.37 | dpy | I mean, a pointer is moved to an edge and then a script is executed |
| 16:09.47 | dpy | pipitas: the latter yes |
| 16:09.50 | Jucato | a script/program/etc... |
| 16:09.58 | Jucato | yeah I'm interested in *that* too :P |
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| 16:10.23 | dpy | anyone else wants to second this feature ? |
| 16:10.25 | dpy | lol |
| 16:10.36 | Jucato | can I third it just the same? heheh |
| 16:10.36 | dpy | pipitas: is it possible ? |
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| 16:16.32 | pipitas | dpy: yes, it's possible (I'm pretty sure), because some programs do exactly that... |
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| 16:16.43 | Jucato | (like kicker...) |
| 16:16.53 | dpy | pipitas: you know *how* this is done |
| 16:16.58 | dpy | kicker is an application |
| 16:17.11 | dpy | that can just subscribe to mouse events itself |
| 16:17.23 | Jucato | a script is also an application.... depends on what script it is |
| 16:17.31 | Jucato | hm.. it's possible too, I guess, using dcop... |
| 16:17.37 | dpy | for scripts, you'll need an app that subscribes to said events and then executes a script |
| 16:17.55 | dpy | dcop doesn't allow subscription to events |
| 16:18.00 | devilsadvocate | hmm.. my superkaramba refuses to remember what i downloaded and installed in the last session |
| 16:18.50 | pipitas | I vaguely remember have done s.th. like that many years ago (on a non-KDE desktop, though), but I've no time now to re-research it, sorry. After all, I need to test all those KDEPrint stuff on my own, and can't seem to get a single response from 322 people in this #channel, even after asking repeatedly... :-| |
| 16:19.10 | Jucato | :( |
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| 16:23.13 | pinotree | PhilRod: why ridiculous?? |
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| 16:24.15 | PhilRod | pinotree: improving kbugbuster is sensible, but to do it requires messing around with lots of stuff |
| 16:24.36 | pinotree | yea,h but the idea is not ridicuolus ;) |
| 16:25.11 | PhilRod | sure :-) |
| 16:26.00 | PhilRod | (there's no standard way to submit changes to bugzilla, AFAICT, except the web interface, so to add such options to kbugbuster means learning how to submit HTML forms with HTTP) |
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| 16:28.14 | niac | hi all. I cannot get sound on my linux. Kmix is ok, but for example when I'm reading an ogg file with xmms, there is no sound. |
| 16:28.33 | niac | any idea? |
| 16:28.41 | StevenR | make xmms output to arts |
| 16:28.51 | PhilRod | ~artstr |
| 16:29.01 | apt | You can find some tips on diagnosing sound-related problems at http://docs.kde.org/development/en/kdebase/faq/sound.html |
| 16:29.04 | PhilRod | hiya StevenR! |
| 16:29.24 | StevenR | yo PhilRod |
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| 16:32.38 | hardcampa | arts is for loosers |
| 16:32.54 | hardcampa | fix your alsa settings... compile in ogg if you don't have it. |
| 16:32.57 | hardcampa | in your player |
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| 16:37.25 | MarcoPau | hello, I have a delay when shutting down Xorg, and supposedly it depends on the kde settings, cause it came up on this newly installed distribution when I copied my old homedir with its hidden directories |
| 16:37.30 | MarcoPau | what could that be? |
| 16:37.33 | niac | So, with "artsplay /path/to/some/soundfile" on a ogg or wav file, there is no error but no sound... |
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| 16:38.09 | wildf- | hi |
| 16:38.35 | PhilRod | hi wildf- |
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| 16:39.52 | wildf- | i have a weird problem.. i have FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/misc:unscaled" in xorg.conf, cursor.pcf.gz exists in that dir.. yet the font isnt available to me in kde control center? |
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| 16:40.21 | spawn57 | i'm off to bed, g'nite guys |
| 16:40.31 | MarcoPau | nite |
| 16:40.35 | annma | night spawn57 :) |
| 16:40.39 | spawn57 | =D |
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| 16:41.46 | niac | any idea for my sound problem? |
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| 16:42.25 | PhilRod | niac: if xmms doesn't play sound, the problem is probably at the system level, rather than the kde level. You might want to ask in #yourdistro |
| 16:43.25 | wildf- | :( |
| 16:43.39 | wildf- | brb |
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| 16:49.15 | batiste | Hello |
| 16:49.25 | batiste | I need some help, I try to hack Konqueror |
| 16:50.31 | PhilRod | just ask |
| 16:50.47 | PhilRod | assuming you're using the original meaning of the word "hack" |
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| 16:51.42 | batiste | Yep the original |
| 16:52.10 | batiste | I am trying to imporve performance of konqueror with JQuery, the javascript library |
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| 16:53.03 | batiste | I have downloaded kdebase and kdelib from trunk |
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| 16:53.31 | PhilRod | you can get help compiling trunk in #kde4-devel |
| 16:53.58 | batiste | Oki, but I have taken the 3.5 kde branch |
| 16:54.10 | batiste | And it's compiling |
| 16:54.15 | annma | so it's not trunk |
| 16:54.20 | Dark_Apostrophe | annma: pong |
| 16:54.28 | batiste | Yes your are right |
| 16:54.32 | annma | Dark_Apostrophe: you manage to get the files working in KTouch? |
| 16:54.40 | batiste | I have compiled kdebase and kdelibs |
| 16:54.46 | Dark_Apostrophe | Yeah |
| 16:54.52 | annma | cool |
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| 16:55.01 | annma | is it a very used layout? |
| 16:55.10 | Dark_Apostrophe | No |
| 16:55.13 | annma | meaning: should it be in KTouch per default? |
| 16:55.15 | batiste | Just a minut |
| 16:55.26 | Dark_Apostrophe | It's very new |
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| 16:55.47 | Dark_Apostrophe | annma: It should IMO |
| 16:56.01 | aseigo | annma: oh. hey, i had something to discuss w/you re:trunk/kdeedu and use of KApplication::tempSavename |
| 16:56.07 | aseigo | annma: do you have a moment? =) |
| 16:56.21 | annma | Dark_Apostrophe: or maybe KTouch would need a Get Hot New Stuff action for those files |
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| 16:57.10 | Dark_Apostrophe | Not a bad idea |
| 16:57.13 | annma | Dark_Apostrophe: however I can add them in KTouch and we can discuss later with KTouch author on how to ship them |
| 16:57.45 | annma | Dark_Apostrophe: I'll send a mail to kde-edu mailing list about it |
| 16:58.10 | Dark_Apostrophe | annma: But doesn't that require a KDE-Look category? |
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| 16:58.30 | annma | Dark_Apostrophe: not at all, I have it for KHangMan for ex or for KStars data |
| 16:58.38 | Dark_Apostrophe | Ok |
| 16:58.47 | annma | Dark_Apostrophe: the thing is you click on it and it installs itself |
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| 16:59.01 | annma | while not cluttering the app for users who don't want it |
| 16:59.21 | Dark_Apostrophe | I know what it is... |
| 17:00.02 | annma | it's ideal for that sort of data, useful but for only a few percentage of users |
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| 17:00.26 | annma | I'll see how the KTouch guy wants to do |
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| 17:14.24 | deb_noob | can I set the clock to always sync with a time server? |
| 17:14.56 | annma | it seems not to work here deb_noob |
| 17:15.07 | deb_noob | is there a command to sync it? |
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| 17:15.27 | alan_ | hi where does kde store which fonts are being used? |
| 17:15.38 | alan_ | or font settings |
| 17:16.07 | annma | deb_noob: no idea, the code would tell maybe |
| 17:16.11 | troy | deb_noob: usually that's done by the distro on boot |
| 17:16.27 | annma | troy: there's also a setting in the kde kclock |
| 17:16.36 | sredna | deb_noob: kde allows you to just enable that in the clock configuration i believe |
| 17:16.38 | annma | but yes, distros do it at boot |
| 17:16.51 | annma | sredna: it's broken for me |
| 17:16.56 | troy | annma: ah, I haven't ever bothered to configure it... |
| 17:17.22 | annma | deb_noob: you tried it? |
| 17:17.37 | sredna | i haven't looked at it for a long time either |
| 17:18.05 | annma | I should see if it's really broken and fix it, shoudl not be hard |
| 17:18.26 | sredna | i think kubuntu uses ntp as standard |
| 17:19.14 | troy | for me, I just loaded up kcontrol, searched for time - found a date and time module with an admin mode... that's where my option was hidden... |
| 17:19.16 | sredna | alan_: kde have a 'font installer' that lets you manage fonts |
| 17:19.25 | alan_ | yeah i know |
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| 17:19.44 | alan_ | sad that the cursor font isnt on the list |
| 17:19.59 | troy | I just turned it on, but I didn't see my time adjust - so either it's not working, or it's doing to gradual correction thing (which is possible to do with ntp) |
| 17:20.01 | sredna | alan_: the fonts used are provided by your system, so blame that :) |
| 17:20.19 | alan_ | maybe |
| 17:20.36 | alan_ | bbl |
| 17:20.44 | deb_noob | annma and sredna I installed ntpdate, which was recommended by someone in debian |
| 17:20.46 | troy | alan_: it might be available in your package manager type program... |
| 17:20.58 | annma | alan_: I have cursdor in Kate for example |
| 17:21.32 | annma | alan_: so it's not a problem with KDE it seems |
| 17:21.32 | alan_ | I dont |
| 17:21.42 | alan_ | no it's not kde |
| 17:21.55 | alan_ | but i cant figure out why every font is there except cursor |
| 17:22.11 | troy | alan_: cursor might be copyright MS |
| 17:22.25 | alan_ | hmm |
| 17:22.35 | annma | I probably got it from my win partition |
| 17:22.43 | sredna | alan_: if you just installed it, maybe you need to run fc-cache or so? |
| 17:22.49 | alan_ | let me steal it |
| 17:23.05 | sredna | is cursor one of the new fonts from win XP? |
| 17:23.16 | sredna | the non-public ones? |
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| 17:23.30 | annma | sredna: dunno, I just imported everything as the kids always want fancy fonts |
| 17:23.41 | troy | sredna: *shrug* |
| 17:24.00 | sredna | i have them somewhere, but i never installed them |
| 17:24.02 | annma | it's probably bad in term of freedom |
| 17:24.24 | annma | ok, dinner, bbl |
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| 17:24.30 | sredna | annma: na, just a little radical ;) |
| 17:24.42 | alan_ | bbl |
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| 17:28.02 | AssociateX | what gives KDevelopIDE? |
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| 17:33.50 | shadok | anybody knows where i can contact a dev (_the_ dev) of k3b ? |
| 17:34.22 | troy | shadok: I'll see if I can narrow that down for you... |
| 17:34.27 | StevenR | shadok: k3b website should have a contact email address |
| 17:35.03 | troy | trueg@k3b.org |
| 17:35.10 | troy | according to k3b's about dialog :) |
| 17:35.12 | shadok | thx, i think i found a bug in k3b |
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| 17:35.36 | texnofobix | shadok: its not a bug, its a feature :P |
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| 17:35.38 | shadok | hehe thx, i was hoping i could find a channel for it but anyway it's ok :) |
| 17:35.40 | StevenR | shadok: file a bug on the bugs.kde.org site then.. I think k3b is on there |
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| 17:35.50 | troy | shadok: if it's a bug, use bugs.kde.org |
| 17:35.51 | shadok | texnofobix: hehe i think not :) |
| 17:36.00 | shadok | ok thx guys |
| 17:36.24 | shadok | ah there is a 1.0_rc4 release, i'll test it before filing the bug |
| 17:36.43 | troy | shadok: good plan :) |
| 17:36.56 | ZanQdo | are there release logs anywere? |
| 17:37.05 | shadok | troy: :) |
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| 17:38.41 | PhilRod | ZanQdo: do you mean changelogs? |
| 17:39.06 | PhilRod | if so, google for "kde 3.5.6 changelog" |
| 17:39.33 | pinotree | http://www.kde.org/announcements/changelogs/changelog3_5_5to3_5_6.php |
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| 17:40.43 | chazco | can anyone confirm that the iconset Crystal Clear is LGPL? |
| 17:41.41 | troy | chazco: you'll probably have to find that iconset developer directly, or look in the tarball that it ships for a LICENSE.txt or equivalent... |
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| 17:43.32 | mgu | KDE 3.5.6 in Kubuntu feisty: how can I make Konsole use bash instead of sh? changing the command in the "Session" tab in the settings menu apparently has no effect. |
| 17:44.21 | oGALAXYo | mgu: #kubuntu |
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| 17:45.44 | PhilRod | mgu: "konsole -e /path/to/the/shell/you/want/to/use" or use your distro's tools to change the shell for your user |
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| 17:46.51 | mgu | PhilRod: thanks, that does it; still, what's the "Session" tab for then? |
| 17:47.30 | PhilRod | oh, you could probably use that too if you want |
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| 17:47.59 | mgu | PhilRod: setting "bash" there doesn't make a difference apparently |
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| 17:54.00 | ZanQdo | PhilRod: yes, thank you |
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| 17:55.38 | ZanQdo | pinotree: thanks to you too |
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| 18:34.18 | Dr_willis | sounds like a rip off to me. |
| 18:34.24 | libben | if i install samba, should i restart x to get it listed in controll setting ? |
| 18:34.25 | Dr_willis | and somthing to google for. |
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| 18:34.55 | Dr_willis | libben, the samba service should be started, then if the samba control panel applet runs it should see it. |
| 18:35.02 | Dr_willis | at least thats what ive 'noticed' |
| 18:35.35 | libben | well, i can try with /etc/init.d/samba restart |
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| 18:37.01 | tvtoon | Damn strange programs... |
| 18:37.23 | tvtoon | How can one Support CloneCD IMG, but not BIN / CUE ? (KISO) |
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| 18:39.46 | thiago | tvtoon: if that's an ISO image, just burn it |
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| 18:39.53 | thiago | if it isn't, convert it to ISO or bin/cue |
| 18:39.56 | Dr_willis | there is a bin/cue converter |
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| 18:40.09 | Dr_willis | but that dont always work with some game/other cds ive noticed |
| 18:40.22 | thiago | if it's an image, it must |
| 18:40.41 | Dr_willis | last game cd i tried.. it made a little .iso then a lot of (cdr?) audio tracks. |
| 18:40.56 | Dr_willis | so it dident 'exactly' work how i expected. |
| 18:41.05 | tvtoon | thiago, I know, I am just stating this because IMG and BIN are the same thing |
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| 18:41.34 | devilsadvocate | ok . I know this goes in #gtk_apps_on_kde, but since that channel doesnt exist i'll ask here. Is it a better idea to try to use the kde color theme with gtk or to try an apply separate gtk theming ? |
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| 18:41.52 | thiago | devilsadvocate: I don't see how either way would be a worse ida |
| 18:41.54 | thiago | idea |
| 18:42.02 | thiago | use the colour theme you want, in the apps you want |
| 18:42.06 | devilsadvocate | why so? |
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| 18:42.37 | thiago | why not? |
| 18:42.37 | devilsadvocate | take evolution for example. or even firefox. applying a radical kde color them ruin the display :| |
| 18:42.44 | Dr_willis | under kubuntu - - recall some package you installed that made the gtk apps look/color/sort of look - like kde apps. |
| 18:42.56 | thiago | if you want the apps to have the same colour scheme, use the same colour scheme |
| 18:43.01 | thiago | if you don't, don't use |
| 18:43.11 | thiago | either way is as good/bad as the other way |
| 18:43.26 | devilsadvocate | hmm |
| 18:44.42 | devilsadvocate | Dr_willis, you suggest i remove that package and let gtk appa look like they are supposed to? |
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| 18:45.38 | Dr_willis | devilsadvocate, to he honest.. i never even notice the problem any more. |
| 18:45.45 | Dr_willis | and i mixx and match gnome/kde apps all the time. |
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| 18:46.05 | troy | devilsadvocate: I don't usually have any problems - gtk apps can pull the KDE colour palette here and look pretty normal... |
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| 18:46.15 | devilsadvocate | Dr_willis, so your kde theme works fine with the gtk apps |
| 18:46.17 | devilsadvocate | hmm |
| 18:46.19 | devilsadvocate | i see |
| 18:46.20 | devilsadvocate | thanks |
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| 18:46.31 | Dr_willis | lets see... if i run a gtk app.. like.. hmm |
| 18:46.48 | Dr_willis | Doh.. like xchat. :) heh its allready running |
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| 18:47.27 | tremby | i have my panel vertical and i've just found the fuzzy clock and like it a lot. but with a vertical panel the fuzzy clock text is also vertical and takes up a lot of room. since my panel is pretty fat though, it would take up much less room and would fit ok horizontally (might spill to two lines). i can't find a way to make the text horizontal though |
| 18:47.32 | Dr_willis | xchats colors look the same to me.. as the other kde apps.. same decorations |
| 18:47.43 | Dr_willis | fonts may be a little different.. and the widgets in the window are a little different |
| 18:47.57 | Dr_willis | but xchat may not be a good test app. |
| 18:47.57 | devilsadvocate | Some of the apps look fine, but some get messed up |
| 18:47.59 | Slyfoot | Hullo folks... got a question about Konquerer. Is there a way to tell the browser to load the text immediately, then worry about the images later, instead of having to wait until all the images are loaded? |
| 18:48.02 | troy | I just realized I don't actually have a gtk app installed anymore -- last one I needed was gtkpod, but amarok does that now... |
| 18:48.16 | devilsadvocate | evolution, for example, half the window is painted and half isnt |
| 18:48.49 | troy | oh, wait, firefox uses gtk - I might have that... |
| 18:48.57 | devilsadvocate | and in firefox, when i select a dark theme, the default text colour is light and web pages which dont specify text color while specifying background colour look.. well. :| |
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| 18:50.00 | Terinjokes | hey, i'm having a bit of a problem, automount no longer mounts my drives |
| 18:50.01 | troy | devilsadvocate: hrm, that doesn't happen in konqueror even - could be a problem with the qt->gtk engine.... |
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| 18:50.05 | Dr_willis | evolution looks about the same as my other kde apps.. differnet widgets however. |
| 18:50.08 | Wulfie_home | hey folks - i want to change my buttons on my kicker panel to use small images instead of large while keeping a large bar anyone give me a tip on this? |
| 18:50.10 | Dr_willis | colors seem fine |
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| 18:50.49 | devilsadvocate | hmm... ok |
| 18:51.06 | devilsadvocate | Wulfie_home, in the control panel select appearence and then icons |
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| 18:51.39 | Wulfie_home | devilsadvocate: is the panel config or kcontrol? |
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| 18:51.44 | AssociateX | anyone know of problems with using kleansweep |
| 18:52.00 | Dr_willis | never heard of it AssociateX |
| 18:52.01 | AssociateX | I just want to know what to look out fot |
| 18:52.03 | AssociateX | for* |
| 18:52.06 | devilsadvocate | kcontrol will have it as well, but the system settings panel is enough |
| 18:52.09 | Terinjokes | the automounter stopped working when I accidently deleted the trash icon |
| 18:52.23 | AssociateX | Dr_willis, it's a kde app |
| 18:52.35 | troy | devilsadvocate: no everyone has system settings... |
| 18:52.48 | troy | AssociateX: never heard of it either - what does it do? |
| 18:52.51 | devilsadvocate | ah. didnt know that |
| 18:52.52 | AssociateX | for looking for files that can be deleted under certain criteria |
| 18:52.53 | Dr_willis | AssociateX, gee.. :) |
| 18:53.14 | troy | AssociateX: don't have it installed, never used it before... |
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| 18:53.36 | Wulfie_home | devilsadvocate: I can't find it in the panel config and in kcontrol the size is greyed out |
| 18:53.40 | Terinjokes | erm, hello? |
| 18:53.43 | Dr_willis | <ubotu> Package/file kcleansweep does not exist in edgy |
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| 18:54.12 | devilsadvocate | Wulfie_home, which icon size do you want to change? |
| 18:54.27 | AssociateX | kleensweep so far looks pretty cool, finds broken sym links, backup files, empty files and dirs... |
| 18:54.45 | Wulfie_home | devilsadvocate: some of the application buttons I have on the panel - like firefox and xchat |
| 18:55.05 | troy | AssociateX: cool, does it present a list of things it found before actually deleting stuff? |
| 18:55.16 | AssociateX | troy, yes |
| 18:55.24 | devilsadvocate | Wulfie_home, oh. ok. rightclick on an empty part of the panel and select configure |
| 18:55.45 | Wulfie_home | devilsadvocate: ah I think i found it - i added a quick launcher applet |
| 18:55.45 | devilsadvocate | Wulfie_home, the size of those icons are defined by the panel size |
| 18:55.48 | Wulfie_home | it has just what I want |
| 18:56.00 | AssociateX | you can select what you want or select all, arrange by dir, size and so on |
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| 18:56.37 | Terinjokes | and kdm doesn't restart after a user logs out |
| 18:56.40 | troy | AssociateX: does it find .part files, .core files, etc. too? |
| 18:57.06 | AssociateX | I don't know, what would that be under would you think? |
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| 18:59.50 | troy | openoffice and firefox are the only things depending on gtk2, so I'll keep that around... need to test website rendering in firefox on occasion :) |
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| 19:00.58 | AssociateX | troy, http://linux.bydg.org/~yogin/ then look for the kleansweep link to the left |
| 19:01.03 | AssociateX | if you wanted to kow |
| 19:01.05 | AssociateX | know* |
| 19:01.19 | simmerz | can konsole sessions be grouped together? |
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| 19:01.55 | MetaBookfoziS | simmerz > you can open separated windows for both groups" |
| 19:01.57 | MetaBookfoziS | " |
| 19:01.59 | MetaBookfoziS | ;) |
| 19:02.37 | simmerz | im thinking more along the lines of the session button on the bottom left of the konsole window - the sessions that show up in there. would be nice to be able to group my ssh sessions together |
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| 19:04.52 | troy | AssociateX: ah, so it'll end up in *ubuntu one day it seems, then I'll probably end up using it :) |
| 19:05.10 | devilsadvocate | can someone tell me if amarok depends on qt ? |
| 19:05.50 | Dr_willis | dosent every kde app depend on qt? |
| 19:05.57 | devilsadvocate | just making sure |
| 19:06.16 | AssociateX | troy, It's already in portage for gentoo |
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| 19:06.28 | troy | devilsadvocate: it depends on qt and KDE inseperably... |
| 19:06.49 | devilsadvocate | troy, i've use amarok on xfce |
| 19:07.07 | devilsadvocate | it just needs a big bunch of kdelibs to run |
| 19:07.11 | troy | devilsadvocate: yeah, but I'll bet if you run 'ldd amarok' you'll find many KDE libs being used :) |
| 19:07.21 | devilsadvocate | :) |
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| 19:11.09 | Desintegr | In « kcmshell keys », are « Application Shortchuts » working right with « XF86 hotkeys » (like XF86New, XF86Save, etc.) ? |
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| 19:12.14 | thiago | Desintegr: no reason not to |
| 19:12.27 | Desintegr | hum |
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| 19:12.37 | Desintegr | on Global Shortcuts or Shortcut Sequences |
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| 19:13.35 | Desintegr | if press my « new document » key, then I see « XF86New », it's correct |
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| 19:13.53 | Desintegr | on Application Shortcuts |
| 19:13.57 | Desintegr | I press the same key |
| 19:14.00 | Desintegr | I get nothing |
| 19:14.15 | Desintegr | like I've pressed no key |
| 19:14.39 | troy | does anyone no if basket (see :basket.kde.org) is developed inside KDE SVN? |
| 19:16.08 | annma | troy: I don't think so but what about the webpage? |
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| 19:16.27 | annma | doesn't it list the svn/cvs repoitory? |
| 19:16.34 | Level15 | hi. does anybody know if kde 4 will run natively under mac os? |
| 19:16.46 | thiago | Level15: maybe |
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| 19:17.19 | annma | troy: svn co http://basket.linux62.org/svn/basket/trunk basket so that's no KDE |
| 19:17.25 | Desintegr | thiago: my problem is like http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=94947 |
| 19:17.31 | thiago | KDE's main purpose is the full Desktop Environment for X11 |
| 19:17.35 | annma | Level15: not kde4, no |
| 19:17.42 | annma | Level15: KDE4 applications |
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| 19:18.20 | Level15 | annma: hm, enlighten me, please. so i'll be able to run, for example, kmail, but not, say, kicker or kwin? |
| 19:18.28 | annma | exactly |
| 19:18.32 | thiago | Level15: yep |
| 19:18.39 | annma | you won't have the KDE desktop |
| 19:18.59 | thiago | the KDE 4 Workspace is X11-only |
| 19:19.20 | troy | annma: just wanted to know how closely related to KDE it is - where to file bug report :) |
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| 19:19.45 | troy | annma: the about dialog told me :) |
| 19:19.51 | thiago | troy: if there's a basket product in bugs.kde.org, that's where to report it. |
| 19:19.58 | annma | troy: :) |
| 19:20.06 | troy | thiago: there isn't :) |
| 19:20.36 | thiago | then don't report it to bugs.kde.org |
| 19:20.52 | troy | thiago: the about dialog tells me to send him an email :) |
| 19:21.03 | thiago | there you go :-) |
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| 19:22.34 | Level15 | annma, thiago: and do you know if kwin will have under kde4 compiz or beryl like effects? |
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| 19:22.57 | annma | yes it will |
| 19:23.17 | thiago | Level15: that's the idea, but again no promises |
| 19:23.28 | thiago | Level15: much less the promise to support the same files |
| 19:23.34 | Level15 | annma: sweet |
| 19:23.53 | Level15 | thiago: by same files you mean theme files or something else? |
| 19:24.11 | annma | in fact you can use beryl or compiz instead of kwin |
| 19:24.17 | annma | right now |
| 19:24.32 | thiago | Level15: whatever that you use to configure beryl/compiz |
| 19:24.43 | thiago | Level15: kwin will get OpenGL effects |
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| 19:24.53 | thiago | there's no promise to support the *same* effects, much less the same themes. |
| 19:25.04 | Level15 | annma: yeah, i did that, but i still prefer the feel of kwin over beryl... |
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| 19:28.49 | StevenR | why does kicker show my date as 04/02/2006 ? |
| 19:29.04 | StevenR | date gives: Sun Feb 4 19:28:52 GMT 2007 |
| 19:29.16 | thiago | it doesn't |
| 19:29.21 | thiago | Kicker is showing: 04/02/2007 |
| 19:29.41 | Dr_willis | that is todays date... |
| 19:29.43 | Dr_willis | :) |
| 19:29.54 | Dr_willis | not all countries use the same time/date format. |
| 19:30.06 | StevenR | thiago: no, it says 2006. |
| 19:30.11 | thiago | I noticed |
| 19:30.11 | StevenR | the year is wrong |
| 19:30.16 | Dr_willis | set the clock. :) |
| 19:30.16 | thiago | but my kicker isn't wrong |
| 19:30.23 | Dr_willis | heh.. odd.. |
| 19:30.36 | Dr_willis | you are actually crossing time and space? |
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| 19:30.42 | Level15 | annma, thiago: so i assume the same will be true for windows: i should be able to run kmail under windows as well without using cygwin, right? |
| 19:30.46 | Dr_willis | I just realized ive been dating my checks wrong. |
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| 19:30.52 | StevenR | Dr_willis: date shows the correct time and date. the system time is correct. kicker is showing the wrong date |
| 19:30.55 | thiago | Level15: no promises |
| 19:31.06 | thiago | Level15: at least MacOS X is a Unix. Windows isn't. |
| 19:31.25 | troy | StevenR: someone playing a practical joke on you? changed the source to set it to -1 ? |
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| 19:31.39 | Level15 | thiago: hm, yeah, hadn't thought about that |
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| 19:33.48 | StevenR | troy: everywhere else I look it's correct |
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| 19:35.54 | troy | StevenR: I actually have no idea why that would be happening... maybe restart kicker... |
| 19:36.26 | StevenR | did so |
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| 19:39.47 | Mitja | How do I make window to pop-up when I stick in usb storage media? |
| 19:39.51 | libben | how do i bring back samba menu in kde control? its gone. has disapered |
| 19:40.05 | libben | i have restarted the box, i have restarted samba also |
| 19:40.34 | Wespe | hi, how can I get rid of that annoying "on all desktops" button in the title bar? |
| 19:41.29 | StevenR | troy: everything else shows the right time. kicker doesn't :( |
| 19:42.03 | Mitja | Wespe: kcontrol center->appearance & themes-> window decorations->buttons and you remove it |
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| 19:43.42 | Wespe | thank you, Mitja |
| 19:43.49 | Mitja | np |
| 19:44.05 | Mitja | if only someone knew how to solve my usb problem :) |
| 19:45.42 | sredna | Mitja: given your system provides the required tools, you need to just enable the media notifier daemon in the control center in KDE Components->Service Manager |
| 19:45.54 | thiago | Mitja: are you in KDE? |
| 19:46.01 | Mitja | thiago: yes |
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| 19:46.16 | Mitja | but I have a more fundamental problem: http://www.slexy.org/paste/1275 |
| 19:46.24 | thiago | are you using HAL? |
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| 19:46.28 | Mitja | either sdb or sdb1 don't exist |
| 19:46.34 | Mitja | I think so |
| 19:46.42 | Mitja | how do I find out? |
| 19:46.43 | thiago | make sure hald is running |
| 19:46.57 | Mitja | it is |
| 19:47.05 | Level15 | just to know, what linux distro are you people using? |
| 19:47.08 | Mitja | hald-addon-stor even |
| 19:47.15 | Mitja | Level15: debian |
| 19:47.32 | thiago | hald is running, then? |
| 19:47.36 | Mitja | yes |
| 19:47.37 | thiago | not hald-addon-* |
| 19:47.54 | Mitja | well, hald and other halds are running |
| 19:47.59 | thiago | is a USB stick plugged in? |
| 19:48.03 | Mitja | yes |
| 19:48.16 | thiago | run lshal | less |
| 19:48.25 | thiago | and look for your device |
| 19:48.28 | thiago | sda, sdb, etc. |
| 19:48.44 | Level15 | what about the rest of you? |
| 19:49.06 | bLUEbYTE84 | Gentoo |
| 19:49.16 | thiago | Level15: do you really want 333 people to reply? |
| 19:49.35 | Level15 | :P |
| 19:49.35 | Mitja | thiago: no sdb there |
| 19:49.44 | thiago | Mitja: are you sure your stick is sdb? |
| 19:49.49 | Level15 | actuall, yes. maybe you could priv me :P |
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| 19:50.21 | Mitja | thiago: it was before I reinstalled kde |
| 19:50.31 | Mitja | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:50.53 | thiago | Mitja: what is sda? |
| 19:51.04 | Mitja | thiago: also take a look: http://www.slexy.org/paste/1275 |
| 19:51.06 | sredna | Level15: none of them had or have a working package manager :-) |
| 19:51.14 | Level15 | sredna: which one do you prefer? |
| 19:51.34 | Mitja | sda's are several partitions mounted |
| 19:51.37 | thiago | Mitja: your HAL hasn't detected your stick |
| 19:51.41 | thiago | Mitja: so KDE won't know about it |
| 19:51.47 | thiago | Mitja: fix your HAL. This is not a KDE problem. |
| 19:51.57 | sredna | Level15: i've preferred them all. atm i'm using kubuntu. |
| 19:52.07 | Level15 | sredna: do u like it? |
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| 19:52.38 | sredna | Level15: sometimes, when i'm not bothered by the package manager |
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| 19:53.17 | bLUEbYTE84 | sredna: what you consider a good package manager? one cooks your diner? |
| 19:54.02 | sredna | bLUEbYTE84: one that allways gets things right and provides resonably up to date software. afaik, it's not yet invented. |
| 19:54.31 | thiago | right |
| 19:54.34 | sredna | oh, and it must also NOT run daemons that steal my CPU or do other idiotic things |
| 19:54.40 | thiago | last I heard, package managers did not write software |
| 19:54.49 | sredna | lol |
| 19:55.50 | Mitja | thiago: weird though, I remove kde and install it back and suddenly hal is broken? |
| 19:55.50 | thiago | and they depend on human beings for actually finding out the latest versions of available software, package and test them |
| 19:55.50 | thiago | Mitja: coincidence. |
| 19:55.50 | libben | how do i get samba reaperaring to my kde control menu ? i could see it before in Internet & Network section |
| 19:55.50 | sredna | thiago: maybe that is the problem :o |
| 19:55.56 | thiago | libben: is kcm_samba installed? |
| 19:57.02 | bLUEbYTE84 | sredna: Did oyu try Gentoo? |
| 19:57.42 | bLUEbYTE84 | sredna: Of course, everything is not always right, but there is no perfect world. |
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| 19:58.18 | sredna | bLUEbYTE84: if i had an extra cluster of computers to handle the infinite amount of compiling and manage the infinite amount of ebuilds, i could still be using it |
| 19:59.05 | libben | should i have smb4k installed ? |
| 19:59.18 | libben | thiago: i cant find and kcm_samba with adept |
| 19:59.28 | sredna | bLUEbYTE84: as it is, using gentoo in itself tends to become the main usage ofr a personal computer, and that is not my ambition ;) |
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| 19:59.50 | thiago | libben: I meant the files. Are there kcm_samba files in $KDEDIR/lib ? |
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| 20:00.42 | Mitja | thiago: does hal create a device or udev? |
| 20:00.50 | MarcoPau | can I add a "enqueue to XMMS" entry in the right click menu for audio files? |
| 20:01.00 | thiago | Mitja: udev |
| 20:01.03 | thiago | Mitja: I think. |
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| 20:01.06 | thiago | MarcoPau: yes |
| 20:01.09 | sredna | ~servicemenus |
| 20:01.17 | apt | i guess servicemenus is http://developer.kde.org/documentation/tutorials/dot/servicemenus.html |
| 20:01.25 | sredna | MarcoPau: ^ |
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| 20:01.54 | libben | thiago: dont look like it. http://rafb.net/p/asNfYN26.html |
| 20:02.29 | thiago | libben: is $KDEDIR even set? |
| 20:02.30 | bLUEbYTE84 | sredna: Point taken, each to his own I guess :) |
| 20:03.20 | libben | thiago: how do i know? the url above is my kdedir/lib i did ls $KDEDIR/lib |
| 20:04.16 | thiago | libben: is $KDEDIR set in your shell? |
| 20:04.27 | thiago | you didn't run "ls $KDEDIR/lib" |
| 20:04.32 | thiago | you ran "ls /$KDEDIR/lib" |
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| 20:04.56 | MarcoPau | thanks sredna+ |
| 20:04.58 | MarcoPau | thanks sredna |
| 20:05.03 | sredna | bLUEbYTE84: i have seen a binary gentoo distribution, given it's well managed something like that is actually a very good idea. i wonder if it would be possibble to establish a paid service providing binary gentoo packages with various use configurations for a price, or as a network |
| 20:05.10 | sredna | np, MarcoPau ;) |
| 20:06.45 | sredna | hm, watching tennis by means of score is boring... |
| 20:07.08 | libben | thiago: ok, i did run /$KDEDIR/lib, i now run it without the / and got the same result. no kcm |
| 20:08.52 | thiago | is $KDEDIR set? |
| 20:08.56 | thiago | echo $KDEDIR will tell you |
| 20:09.03 | sredna | find -name kcm_samba* `kde-config --path lib` |
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| 20:09.16 | thiago | ok, even better: ls `kde-config --prefix`/lib/kcm_samba* |
| 20:09.22 | thiago | sredna: you can't put the paths after -name |
| 20:09.42 | sredna | thiago: oops! |
| 20:09.46 | Zaba_ | where are superkaramba themes stored? |
| 20:09.58 | Mitja | thiago: hahaha, solved it by merely running /etc/init.d/udevd restart |
| 20:10.03 | sredna | find `kde-config --path lib` -name kcm_samba* |
| 20:10.04 | Mitja | wasn't even running before |
| 20:10.45 | Zaba_ | where are superkaramba themes i got via get hot new stuff stored? |
| 20:10.59 | Mitja | thanks for all the help :) |
| 20:11.01 | sredna | Mitja: are you sure your system is configured to use it then? |
| 20:11.23 | Mitja | sredna: to use what? |
| 20:11.53 | sredna | Mitja: udev |
| 20:12.05 | Mitja | rcconf says not, will add it now |
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| 20:12.22 | Mitja | strange, because I never removed it |
| 20:12.51 | libben | thiago: will i need to do that as user or su? the echo kdedir? |
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| 20:13.00 | thiago | libben: as user |
| 20:13.02 | Zaba_ | where are superkaramba themes i got via get hot new stuff stored? i have no time to search.. |
| 20:13.05 | thiago | libben: do it already. It's an ls. |
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| 20:13.21 | thiago | libben: I just want to know if you have a file called kcm_samba.la in your KDE's lib dir |
| 20:13.38 | sredna | PhilRod: logical error? |
| 20:13.46 | PhilRod | sredna: on whose part? |
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| 20:13.55 | sredna | kdepim developers? |
| 20:14.31 | libben | Hmm... echo $KDEDIR as user dident give me anything |
| 20:14.44 | thiago | libben: did you now run what I asked you to? |
| 20:14.44 | Zaba_ | kdepimp? |
| 20:14.59 | libben | kde-config --prefix`/lib/kcm_samba* |
| 20:15.02 | libben | that? |
| 20:15.12 | libben | as user or root ? |
| 20:15.15 | sredna | libben: it's defaulting to /usr, or `kde-config --prefix` |
| 20:15.38 | thiago | I gave you the whole command |
| 20:15.44 | thiago | now you can do it on your own |
| 20:15.49 | libben | lol |
| 20:15.58 | libben | u and sredna where fighting over the commands |
| 20:16.02 | libben | dident know what to do. |
| 20:16.08 | thiago | I gave you one |
| 20:16.10 | thiago | you didn't run it |
| 20:16.20 | libben | he also gave me one |
| 20:16.25 | BSDTech | sok kde 3.5.5 is nice clean and fast but boy is it big |
| 20:16.58 | BSDTech | 2.5 days to build on a amd64 1.8 with 1 gig ram |
| 20:17.45 | Level15 | BSDTech: i compiled KDE 2 once on my celeron 300 MHz 48 MB RAM, and it took me over 4 days :-P |
| 20:18.01 | Level15 | BSDTech: that was a long time ago, though |
| 20:18.55 | libben | sorry thiago, i missed that it stood ls before it, the command said no: ls: /usr/lib/kcm_samba*: No such file or directory |
| 20:18.56 | MarcoPau | sredna: where are the icon names? |
| 20:19.18 | thiago | libben: you don't have the Samba component for KControl. |
| 20:19.19 | BSDTech | lol yes but kde was smaller back then try it now ... |
| 20:19.22 | thiago | libben: install it |
| 20:19.49 | libben | thiago: well, i couldent find it the kcm_samba when i searched for it |
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| 20:20.06 | thiago | libben: it's probably got another name |
| 20:20.06 | libben | could it be named something else in debian repos ? |
| 20:20.08 | thiago | libben: ask your distribution's channel. |
| 20:20.11 | sredna | MarcoPau: they are similar to the icon file names withouth the extension |
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| 20:20.41 | MarcoPau | sredna: ok I got that, but where do I find the icons list to get the exact file/icon names? |
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| 20:21.14 | libben | thiago: well, when i look of the search results of word samba i get alot,.. but mainly packages that says they are gui samba network browsers |
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| 20:21.36 | libben | but nothing that really says something about kde |
| 20:21.50 | sredna | MarcoPau: either look in an icon directory, or look at the icon selector, you can launch that from any kde file properties dialog |
| 20:21.52 | libben | well, except the smb4k package |
| 20:22.08 | libben | that is a kde windows share browser... |
| 20:22.10 | doolin | anyone know that program displays the OSD with the volume info when you change it using laptop volume buttons? |
| 20:22.23 | libben | is that the one that pops in kcontrol? |
| 20:22.34 | BSDTech | kde on freebsd is nice |
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| 20:22.44 | BSDTech | best desktop I have hound |
| 20:23.10 | sredna | anders@pluto kate $ ls /usr/lib/kde3/kcm_samba* |
| 20:23.10 | sredna | /usr/lib/kde3/kcm_samba.la /usr/lib/kde3/kcm_samba.so |
| 20:23.37 | thiago | oops |
| 20:23.41 | thiago | sredna's got a point |
| 20:23.44 | Level15 | doolin: lineak can do that. also, if X11 are properly configured, kmix can do it |
| 20:23.52 | thiago | libben: ls /usr/lib/kde3/kcm_samba.la |
| 20:23.54 | thiago | is that there? |
| 20:24.44 | libben | yes |
| 20:24.48 | doolin | Level15: well, it runs with KDE, but im running XFCE now and I wanted to kow what it was |
| 20:25.10 | Level15 | doolin:lineak can do the trick. you need to install xosd first |
| 20:25.10 | sredna | anders@pluto kate $ kcmshell --list|grep samba |
| 20:25.10 | sredna | kcmsambaconf - A module to configure shares for Microsoft Windows |
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| 20:25.28 | MarcoPau | great, done my first servicemenu :) |
| 20:25.44 | sredna | that indicates that "$kcmshell kcmsambaconf" would launch it |
| 20:25.56 | MarcoPau | and how about setting detailed view as default in konqueror? |
| 20:25.58 | sredna | congrats, MarcoPau :) |
| 20:26.05 | doolin | Level15: thanks mate |
| 20:26.10 | Level15 | doolin:np |
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| 20:26.26 | MarcoPau | sredna: wasn't indeed a big deal, very useful... |
| 20:26.27 | libben | sredna: is that for me? thiago it was there, is that proper? |
| 20:26.46 | sredna | libben: yea, that was for you :) |
| 20:26.55 | MasterShrek | does anyone know if its normal for artsd to be taking more resources than any other process? |
| 20:27.33 | ponto_ | MasterShrek: it is not normal |
| 20:27.37 | sredna | (yay, the match went into a third set (instead of a loss)) |
| 20:28.48 | libben | sredna: so that command kcmshell --list|grep samba just put a line into what? |
| 20:28.57 | libben | i just ran it. |
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| 20:29.24 | sredna | libben: no, run "kcmshell kcmsambaconf" to launch that control module |
| 20:29.40 | libben | ok |
| 20:29.45 | MasterShrek | ponto_ would you have any idea what might be causing it to be high? |
| 20:29.58 | libben | but when i ran kcmshell --list|grep samba nothing happend =) if it now would happen something |
| 20:30.04 | troy | man, this basket notes application is really slick... |
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| 20:30.36 | sredna | libben: while "kcmshell --list" will output a list of available modules. if it's not there, it's not installed or not found |
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| 20:30.45 | libben | yeah |
| 20:30.53 | libben | i couldent execute the command right now =) |
| 20:31.01 | libben | no kcmsamaconf =) |
| 20:31.12 | Level15 | libben: have you tried ldconfig? maybe you need that before kcmshell will see it |
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| 20:31.18 | sredna | libben: if you installed it in this session, run 'kbuildsyscoca' to update your sysconfig data |
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| 20:31.59 | libben | sredna: i cant find anything that is named kcm_samba or kcmsambaconf when i just looked |
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| 20:32.08 | libben | i dont know how this could dissapear |
| 20:32.14 | libben | it was there like 2 days ago |
| 20:32.36 | sredna | libben: that is a bit odd then, unless you uninstalled the module or package that provides it |
| 20:32.38 | libben | i mean the samba menu in kcontrl |
| 20:33.03 | libben | sredna: well, some packages was uninstalled 3 days ago sorta... and i dident have control over it. |
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| 20:33.22 | libben | but it shouldent be this hard to track it down wich package it needs or dep |
| 20:33.25 | sredna | libben: what is your OS or distro? |
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| 20:35.04 | libben | debian etch |
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| 20:36.36 | sredna | libben: then you can search for the package |
| 20:36.46 | charzero | Does konqueror log somewhere? When I run 'konqueror', nothing happens. No output, no window, nothing. |
| 20:36.58 | sredna | libben: on my kubuntu box it appears to be 'kdenetwork-filesharing - network filesharing configuration module for KDE' |
| 20:37.00 | thiago | ~/.xsession-errors |
| 20:37.05 | bLUEbYTE84 | try running from console |
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| 20:37.08 | thiago | charzero: ~/.xsession-errors |
| 20:37.50 | charzero | thiago: Nothing in there. |
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| 20:39.03 | libben | those werent installed... installing them now |
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| 20:40.48 | charzero | Huh. kill -9'ing dcopserver fixed it. |
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| 20:42.10 | atom | hi everyone. |
| 20:42.16 | charzero | flakey. |
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| 20:42.29 | atom | is there a way to change the background color of tooltips in KDE? |
| 20:43.26 | oGALAXYo | i think i will soon convert to windows vista. |
| 20:43.29 | sredna | patch qt is it i think |
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| 20:44.06 | sredna | oGALAXYo: really? :o |
| 20:44.27 | oGALAXYo | yes |
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| 20:44.52 | sredna | oGALAXYo: how come? |
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| 20:46.40 | garotosopa | Hi. I have the Archiver (ark_part) service associated with zip files but it doesn't show the Extract submenu. On Ark the konqueror integration item is checked. how can I enable it? |
| 20:46.48 | sredna | oGALAXYo: even microsoft employees only use windows because they have to because of the job ;) |
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| 20:53.48 | killown | when kde 4 to be released? |
| 20:54.02 | sredna | killown: maybe in 2007 |
| 20:54.10 | hydrogen | sometime after its ready |
| 20:54.18 | killown | sredna, we are in 2007 |
| 20:54.20 | killown | lol |
| 20:55.48 | killown | kde 4 go be more light? |
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| 20:57.31 | madgik85 | hello, does anyone know how to install a New WindowDecoration, the file I have is presently in the .tar.gz form? |
| 20:57.35 | sredna | killown: as in lighter colors? or less bytes? |
| 20:57.59 | killown | sredna, light ram |
| 20:58.06 | sredna | madgik85: unpack it, read the README and INSTALL files and follow the instructions :) |
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| 20:59.11 | PhilRod | ~theming |
| 20:59.22 | apt | For lots of information about theming KDE, see http://docs.kde.org/userguide/customizing-desktop.html |
| 20:59.22 | madgik85 | sredna: ok thanks :) |
| 20:59.30 | PhilRod | madgik85: read that too |
| 20:59.51 | sredna | killown: we try to omtimize as much as possible, without loosing functionality |
| 21:00.14 | sredna | *yay* |
| 21:00.29 | sredna | 5-2 in third |
| 21:01.53 | killown | sredna you is programme kde 4? |
| 21:02.21 | PhilRod | sredna: what match? |
| 21:02.24 | sredna | killown: i work on kate |
| 21:02.32 | killown | cool |
| 21:03.10 | sredna | PhilRod: caroline wozniacki (dk) vs a brianti (ita) in valgardena (final) |
| 21:03.17 | killown | sredna, do you yet tested kde 4 beta? |
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| 21:03.58 | PhilRod | sredna: ah, the danish connection :-) |
| 21:04.04 | sredna | PhilRod: caroline is 16, and wants to become http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1 in the world, currently 227 ;) |
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| 21:04.38 | sredna | PhilRod: caroline is 16, and wants to becom e http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1 in the world, currently 227 ;) |
| 21:04.44 | sredna | lol |
| 21:04.52 | sredna | silly replacement in konversation |
| 21:04.55 | PhilRod | is that your side doing the replacement? |
| 21:05.01 | PhilRod | ah, I thought it was mine :-) |
| 21:07.09 | sredna | 5-3, 0-30 |
| 21:07.15 | sredna | too exciting |
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| 21:11.40 | devilsadvocate | <PROTECTED> |
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| 21:12.31 | sredna | match point :-) |
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| 21:13.10 | sredna | devilsadvocate: maybe someone in #kopete ;) |
| 21:13.17 | devilsadvocate | ok... can someone tell me why kopete (and konversation, and akregator) dont respect kde global proxy settings ? |
| 21:13.19 | vmlemon | Anyone here running KDE4 beside KDE3.5.5 in a test environment? |
| 21:13.23 | devilsadvocate | sredna, no reply there :P |
| 21:13.33 | sredna | sorry, Sho_ ;) |
| 21:13.40 | Sho_ | I'll live ;) |
| 21:14.19 | Sho_ | ah, when sredna said "match point" I thought tennis |
| 21:14.59 | sredna | so did i :o |
| 21:16.27 | PhilRod | yeah, I'm just randomly changing the subject |
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| 21:16.37 | sredna | lol |
| 21:16.44 | DexterF | hi all |
| 21:17.07 | DexterF | I just switched from latin-15 to utf-8. do I have to tell KDE about it somewhere? |
| 21:18.20 | sredna | in case of problems, look in the 'regional & accessability' part of the control center, DexterF |
| 21:19.05 | DexterF | well so far none, only kmail garbled a folder name, "börse" became "b<box><box>rse" |
| 21:21.06 | sredna | DexterF: kmail just reads the file (direcotry) name, so it probably tries to do that in utf8 encoding |
| 21:21.27 | DexterF | sounds likely |
| 21:21.49 | sredna | DexterF: you could just reneme it, but remember to check your filters in kmail |
| 21:22.55 | oGALAXYo | http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f7/05-07_Mercedes-Benz_C230.jpg |
| 21:22.56 | DexterF | funny... can't find such a folder... using maildir. |
| 21:23.00 | oGALAXYo | next week.. its infront of my door :) |
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| 21:29.00 | firepol | hi there, im using kdebluetooth with my nokia 6230i. how is it possible to make a "pairing" ? each folder i open (on the phone filesystem) i have to accept it via phone interface |
| 21:30.09 | firepol | i answered my question ;) it was just needed to configure the option via phone |
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| 21:36.28 | ZanQdo | is there a forum for superkaramba? |
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| 21:37.03 | ben_m | How do I set Kopete to UTF8? |
| 21:37.32 | ZanQdo | Im getting an error trying to compile superkaramba |
| 21:37.35 | ZanQdo | :-( |
| 21:37.57 | oGALAXYo | ZanQdo: where do you get superkaramba ? |
| 21:38.09 | ZanQdo | from the sourceforge page |
| 21:38.19 | Ardonik | Why not use your package manager to install it? |
| 21:38.32 | oGALAXYo | ZanQdo: superkaramba is part of kde already.. |
| 21:38.55 | ZanQdo | mm |
| 21:38.57 | ZanQdo | yast? |
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| 21:39.02 | ZanQdo | I cant find it in yast |
| 21:39.34 | oGALAXYo | ZanQdo: what kde version do you use ? |
| 21:40.00 | PhilRod | it's part of kdeutils |
| 21:40.01 | ZanQdo | 3.5 something |
| 21:40.12 | ZanQdo | Im on very recent 10.2 |
| 21:40.30 | ZanQdo | ohh |
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| 21:41.11 | ZanQdo | kdeutils and kde devel are installed |
| 21:41.18 | ZanQdo | now what :-) |
| 21:41.36 | alessiog75 | hi all |
| 21:41.56 | PhilRod | ZanQdo: run superkaramba |
| 21:42.01 | PhilRod | hi alessiog75 |
| 21:42.21 | ZanQdo | ok |
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| 21:42.46 | alessiog75 | I'm having problems with UUID devices and konqueror media:/ .Partitions that are not automounted on boot doesn't show up in media manager. Any clues? |
| 21:43.01 | ZanQdo | PhilRod: mm command not found |
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| 21:45.08 | PhilRod | ZanQdo: hrm, no idea then, sorry |
| 21:46.45 | ben_m | Is it possible to set Kopete to UTF8? |
| 21:47.32 | ZanQdo | PhilRod: thanks anyway! |
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| 21:48.13 | PhilRod | ben_m: what do you want to set to utf8? |
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| 21:51.41 | ben_m | PhilRod: umm, the text the conversations are in? |
| 21:52.08 | ben_m | The german chars my friends send me are displayed pretty strange :D |
| 21:52.10 | PhilRod | probably just by setting $LANG |
| 21:52.23 | PhilRod | LANG=de.UTF8 or whatever |
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| 21:52.39 | ZanQdo | hey they say its on kdeutils extra |
| 21:52.43 | ZanQdo | and thats bnot installed |
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| 21:52.45 | ZanQdo | lets see! |
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| 21:55.26 | ZanQdo | yahuu its working |
| 21:55.30 | ZanQdo | thanks evryone |
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| 21:59.03 | JohnFlux_ | If I stir a pot of water with dirt in it, then the dirt will accumative into the center |
| 21:59.23 | JohnFlux_ | opps wrong channel ;-) |
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| 22:00.42 | alessiog75 | no one is having my problem? |
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| 22:20.09 | MetaBookfoziS | anybody knows bbcworld stream's url? |
| 22:20.16 | boy-dexter | what's the name of the chessgame in kde? |
| 22:20.27 | MetaBookfoziS | kchess? |
| 22:20.27 | MetaBookfoziS | :D |
| 22:20.32 | boy-dexter | :D |
| 22:20.36 | boy-dexter | what engine does it use? |
| 22:20.53 | boy-dexter | i use gentoo and searching for kchess yields no results :) |
| 22:21.01 | sredna | hm, it's still possible to crash kword just by clicking c-z :p |
| 22:21.13 | canllaith | knights, I think |
| 22:21.23 | canllaith | which uses gnuchess |
| 22:22.28 | boy-dexter | canllaith, that's right. thank you |
| 22:23.15 | bram85 | knights does use crafty as well |
| 22:23.37 | bram85 | it's a lighter engine |
| 22:23.39 | canllaith | Yeah, I thought it could use multiple engines |
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| 22:24.45 | sredna | undo works with paper as long as i use a pencil |
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| 22:25.37 | garotosopa | Hi. I have a window-specific setting for kate to have active opaticty 83%. then I open kate and it is 80%. then I close it and check back in kcontrol it is in 81%. what might be happening? |
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| 22:35.19 | libben | any decent ftp program for kde yet ? |
| 22:35.29 | pinotree | kftpgrabber |
| 22:35.32 | Simkin | libben: you mean like konqueror? |
| 22:35.39 | firepol | Hi, how do I make the control center (kcontrol) look like the mac os x control panel? on kubuntu it's like that by default, on genoo all items are grouped by tree, i would change that like in ubuntu |
| 22:35.40 | pinotree | konqueor with ftp:// ... |
| 22:35.56 | Simkin | firepol: i beleive ubuntu forked |
| 22:35.56 | libben | well it may work decent. but i dont like it =) |
| 22:35.58 | pinotree | firepol: install systemsettings, if your distro package it |
| 22:36.04 | libben | in fact i dont like konq at all |
| 22:36.04 | pinotree | Simkin: no |
| 22:36.22 | Simkin | ahh system settings = ubuntu's kcontrol? |
| 22:36.32 | libben | i want a filemanager only and a webbrowser only,.. not all things baked to one pie |
| 22:36.43 | firepol | pinotree, is the package name exactly systemsettings? |
| 22:36.54 | pinotree | firepol: no idea, the application named like that |
| 22:37.01 | Simkin | libben: i'd like to point out that ftp is just file management at this point. |
| 22:37.06 | pinotree | for distro packages info, #gentoo |
| 22:37.59 | firepol | i will ask inthe #gentoo channel than, thx |
| 22:38.33 | libben | Simkin: well yes, it is just simple file. |
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| 22:38.46 | libben | but treat a old dog to sit u know |
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| 22:39.07 | libben | im just a fan of single program for one thing. =) |
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| 22:40.27 | pusling | libben: konqueror is just one thing: a kpart viewer. |
| 22:41.24 | libben | yeah, but i like it more when its a app really, where i can fix settings, store passwords. knowing it has it own map etc etc. |
| 22:41.37 | benJIman | libben: that's like saying that bash does too much |
| 22:41.39 | pusling | libben: it is like saying: I don't like bash because it can both view files with cat, less and more. |
| 22:41.54 | libben | not realy. |
| 22:42.02 | libben | im saying, learn a old dog to sit |
| 22:42.34 | Sho_ | libben: You could use Dolphin as file manager and Konq as web browser |
| 22:42.38 | libben | all my life i have done ftp thru ftp.exe or flashfxp the last 8 years |
| 22:42.47 | libben | so its a habit that wont go away so easily |
| 22:42.59 | libben | Sho_: i allready use iceweasel for web. |
| 22:43.04 | pusling | libben: then go back to your windows box ? |
| 22:43.08 | libben | konq i use as my filemanager |
| 22:43.30 | libben | pusling: that comment is like the shittiest ever =) typical linux users responds to things =) |
| 22:43.51 | pusling | libben: well - if ftp.exe is what you are longing for ;) |
| 22:43.59 | pusling | libben: you could try krusader as a filemanager. |
| 22:44.09 | pusling | libben: and ftp thingie |
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| 22:44.41 | Sho_ | libben: KFTPGrabber is a rough FlashFXP equivalent |
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| 22:45.09 | libben | pusling: bah, why install another filemanager when u cant uninstall the ones that ships =) |
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| 22:45.34 | libben | but a new ftp program is something i could use. |
| 22:45.43 | garotosopa | libben, tried gftp? |
| 22:45.43 | pusling | libben: kasablanca ? |
| 22:46.07 | libben | garotosopa: yeah, but im on kde... even though it works, i dont want G things =) |
| 22:46.30 | libben | pusling: last time i used it, it couldent manage SSL any good on a special server i had =) |
| 22:46.47 | Renze | Sho_: selective deafness |
| 22:46.50 | pusling | libben: it say it does in its description in debians |
| 22:46.54 | Sho_ | Renze: ah |
| 22:47.01 | garotosopa | libben, I thought you said you're using gIceweasel thing |
| 22:47.04 | libben | but what i asked for was not random ftp programs... i asked for a decent ftp client ;) and not konq |
| 22:47.14 | pusling | Sho_: it is because you have a developer cloak ;) |
| 22:47.26 | pusling | libben: ftp is a shitty procotol. |
| 22:47.33 | pusling | libben: so there is no decent clients ;) |
| 22:47.48 | libben | that may be true |
| 22:47.53 | Sho_ | pusling: Well not a KFTPGrabber cloak |
| 22:47.55 | libben | dont really like the ftp protocol |
| 22:48.19 | Sho_ | pusling: But it's basically a FlashFXP clone and he appears to like FlashFXP |
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| 22:48.39 | pusling | Sho_: okay. (but wtf is flashfxp? ;) |
| 22:48.49 | Sho_ | pusling: A popular Windows GUI FTP client |
| 22:48.51 | Renze | a client for Winblows |
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| 22:49.01 | pusling | Sho_: oh. /me don't use that kind ;) |
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| 22:49.45 | libben | ive been on and of linux since 95 but allways managed back to windows,... basicly becuase of the games though |
| 22:50.01 | pusling | libben: linux got tetris too. |
| 22:50.23 | pusling | Sho_: are you the one who is the primary konversation dev ? |
| 22:50.27 | libben | pusling: well, it has my game that ive played since 99 anyway =) |
| 22:50.36 | libben | quake3 is the bomb =) |
| 22:50.45 | pusling | libben: your game? then you could just port it ? |
| 22:50.47 | Sho_ | pusling: One of the primary developers and maintainers and the release coordinator |
| 22:50.52 | libben | pusling: harr harr =) |
| 22:51.09 | Renze | quake3 is available for linux |
| 22:51.32 | damianoso | Hi I have problem with konqueror and youtube |
| 22:51.55 | pusling | damianoso: youtube is broken. |
| 22:51.56 | oGALAXYo | i dont :) |
| 22:52.19 | damianoso | I don't know why but I am not able to see any video form this site |
| 22:52.29 | Renze | damianoso: what version of the flash plugin? |
| 22:52.39 | oGALAXYo | yeah probably old flash plugin |
| 22:52.41 | Sho_ | damianoso: What version of KDE? |
| 22:52.43 | damianoso | 9 all is ok in firefox |
| 22:52.50 | damianoso | kde 3.5.5 |
| 22:53.00 | damianoso | ubuntu 6.06 lts |
| 22:53.05 | Sho_ | damianoso: KDE versions older KDE 3.5.5 have a bug where YouTube won't load embedded on external websites |
| 22:53.09 | Sho_ | *older than |
| 22:53.11 | Renze | 3.5.6 with flash9 on gentoo here, seems to work fine |
| 22:54.13 | damianoso | Hm, so it seems that i wasted last one hour :) |
| 22:54.52 | damianoso | Ok, thx for tip I need to wait for kde 3.5.6 for 6.06 lts |
| 22:55.36 | Sho_ | Well, 3.5.5 should have the fix |
| 22:55.51 | Sho_ | So it ought to work fine (and it does here) |
| 22:56.32 | damianoso | hm, in my system it doesn't work |
| 22:57.02 | damianoso | Of course I googled, was trying to fix it but it doesn't work |
| 22:59.09 | damianoso | OK, now it's working :) |
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| 23:07.57 | ICQnumber | do someone uses mplayer |
| 23:08.07 | ICQnumber | !mplayer |
| 23:08.35 | pinotree | !stop-doing-!-commands-please |
| 23:09.07 | pinotree | ICQnumber: this is #kde, its topic is about kde, not mplayer |
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| 23:09.33 | pinotree | if you have any questions about kde, good - the rest is offtopic |
| 23:09.37 | ICQnumber | do someone uses mplayer in KDE |
| 23:09.50 | pinotree | why? |
| 23:09.52 | ICQnumber | is it a better question? |
| 23:09.59 | pinotree | hmm... no :) |
| 23:10.09 | pinotree | ~ask |
| 23:10.10 | apt | somebody said ask was Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise, and on-topic. Don't ask if you can ask a question first. Don't ask if a person is there, just ask what you intended to ask them. Better questions more frequently yield better answers. We are all here voluntarily. See also ... |
| 23:11.30 | ICQnumber | because the control window of mplayer is allways disabled, maybe it has nothing to do with kde, but i just do not know |
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| 23:12.33 | LinuxCart | Hello |
| 23:12.45 | LinuxCart | anyone knows how to use the new session saving feature in akregator? |
| 23:15.38 | libben | anyway to transfer all my windows to desktop 1 ? |
| 23:15.49 | Simkin | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:16.35 | Sho_ | heh, Linus' announcement is golden ... http://lwn.net/Articles/220544/ |
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| 23:19.12 | damianoso | ICQnumber: install kmplayer |
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| 23:22.01 | Simkin | Sho_: it is! |
| 23:22.03 | Simkin | hehehe |
| 23:22.05 | Simkin | thanks for that |
| 23:22.20 | Sho_ | Simkin: True to the cliché I'm ignoring the Superbowl and compiling my kernel right now |
| 23:22.26 | x_link | How do I add trash can to my desktop again? |
| 23:22.26 | Sho_ | :) |
| 23:22.47 | Sho_ | x_link: Make a Link to Location and use "trash:/" as the target |
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| 23:23.42 | x_link | Sho_: I tried that, doesn't owrk |
| 23:23.44 | x_link | work |
| 23:24.10 | x_link | hrmm |
| 23:24.12 | x_link | Worked this time |
| 23:24.29 | x_link | Why did I get a full trash can? Can I change that? |
| 23:24.38 | Sho_ | x_link: Additionally, you have to open the .desktop file in a text editor and add the line "EmptyIcon=trashcan_empty" |
| 23:24.59 | x_link | Okey |
| 23:25.05 | x_link | No worries, I fixed it now. |
| 23:25.15 | x_link | I changed the icon. |
| 23:25.22 | Sho_ | After adding that the full/emtpty icon mechanic should work again |
| 23:25.40 | Sho_ | i.e. the desktop file has to have Icon=trashcan_full and EmptyIcon=trashcan_empty |
| 23:26.12 | libben | what was that pakexplorer named for kde again? the one that handles rar and so on |
| 23:26.20 | Sho_ | ark |
| 23:26.25 | Sho_ | it's in kdeutils |
| 23:26.33 | x_link | I changed the icon.. but when I trow something in the it doesn't show that something is in it. |
| 23:26.47 | Renze | x_link: did you read what Sho_ told you? |
| 23:26.58 | x_link | agg |
| 23:27.02 | x_link | Missed that part. |
| 23:27.16 | Sho_ | .oO ([23:47] <Renze> Sho_: selective deafness) |
| 23:27.22 | Renze | Sho_: yup |
| 23:27.27 | x_link | What desktop file? |
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| 23:27.48 | Renze | x_link: the one in your Desktop folder |
| 23:28.15 | Sho_ | x_link: Start Kate, click Open File, navigate to the desktop, open the xyz.desktop for the trash link you made |
| 23:28.18 | x_link | /home/sedde/Desktop/ |
| 23:28.36 | x_link | brb |
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| 23:30.27 | RFC_1149_Laptop | I am trying to migrate my KDE settings to a new distro |
| 23:30.38 | RFC_1149_Laptop | I keep getting the KDE new user dialog |
| 23:31.15 | thiago | how did you migrate? |
| 23:31.24 | thiago | copy the entire $HOME |
| 23:31.28 | RFC_1149_Laptop | I had /home on a seperate partition |
| 23:31.33 | RFC_1149_Laptop | thiago, yes |
| 23:31.44 | RFC_1149_Laptop | I get the kde new user dialog on logon |
| 23:31.53 | thiago | did you copy the entire /home filesystem? |
| 23:31.53 | RFC_1149_Laptop | The one which asks for locations, settings, etc |
| 23:32.00 | RFC_1149_Laptop | Then my preferences get messed up |
| 23:32.06 | RFC_1149_Laptop | KDEHOME is /home/user/.kde |
| 23:32.12 | RFC_1149_Laptop | I've kept the entire /home |
| 23:32.20 | thiago | have you kept the same user name and same UID? |
| 23:32.40 | RFC_1149_Laptop | Correcdt |
| 23:32.44 | RFC_1149_Laptop | UID=500 |
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| 23:33.22 | thiago | and /home/user/.kde is there? |
| 23:33.28 | RFC_1149_Laptop | Correct |
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| 23:33.45 | thiago | are you changing distros too? |
| 23:34.07 | RFC_1149_Laptop | Yes. Fedora > Gentoo |
| 23:34.18 | thiago | that's why |
| 23:34.26 | RFC_1149_Laptop | Please clarify |
| 23:34.26 | thiago | the former distro probably removed kpersonalizer |
| 23:34.31 | Renze | Gentoo uses .kde<version>, with .kde as a symlink |
| 23:34.40 | RFC_1149_Laptop | Ahh |
| 23:34.43 | thiago | so you don't have the kpersonalizer setting |
| 23:34.53 | Renze | I have .kde3.5 which is pointed to by .kde |
| 23:34.56 | RFC_1149_Laptop | So I should create a new user on gentoo, login with kde, and look at how gentoo does the settings? |
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| 23:35.11 | RFC_1149_Laptop | Okay - so what do I change in my existing profile? |
| 23:35.40 | Renze | RFC_1149_Laptop: see below: |
| 23:35.42 | Renze | renze:~> cat .kde/share/config/kpersonalizerrc |
| 23:35.42 | Renze | [General] |
| 23:35.43 | Renze | FirstLogin=false |
| 23:36.15 | RFC_1149_Laptop | Yeah |
| 23:36.17 | RFC_1149_Laptop | Says that now |
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| 23:37.06 | RFC_1149_Laptop | "please create an account for sending and try again" |
| 23:37.17 | RFC_1149_Laptop | Kmail / Kontact doesn't like this |
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| 23:39.14 | RFC_1149_Laptop | Guys |
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| 23:42.18 | RFC_1149_Laptop | Annyone? |
| 23:42.37 | pinotree | be patient |
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| 23:47.03 | RFC_1149_Laptop | pinotree, sorry |
| 23:47.05 | RFC_1149_Laptop | Trying |
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| 23:58.16 | LinuxCart | see you |
| 23:58.16 | LinuxCart | bye |
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