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| 00:04.32 | mateus | Is possibile remove Switch user from Kicker? |
| 00:04.48 | troy | mateus: if you logged into KDE from kdm, yeah |
| 00:05.25 | mateus | kdm? |
| 00:05.30 | mateus | as root? |
| 00:05.33 | troy | graphical login manager... |
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| 00:05.54 | troy | you shouldn't load kde as root - you should use kdesu instead... |
| 00:06.08 | mateus | but there is not a option to remove this entry |
| 00:06.15 | troy | or, alt-F2->Run as diff user... |
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| 00:08.39 | Shadow_mil | only reason I don't use kopete is because I like GAIM's tabs and the ability to move groups around |
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| 00:11.12 | Sho_ | Shadow_mil: How do GAIM's tabs differ from Kopete's? |
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| 00:12.24 | Shadow_mil | Sho_: non existence ? |
| 00:12.33 | Shadow_mil | it opens a new window every time |
| 00:12.45 | Sho_ | Shadow_mil: That depends on how you configure it, actually |
| 00:12.57 | Sho_ | Shadow_mil: You can set it to open new conversations in tabs - always, or depending on certain circumstances |
| 00:13.08 | Shadow_mil | Sho_: well I can't find tabs anywhere in the configuration |
| 00:13.14 | Sho_ | Shadow_mil: You can also freely detach and reatach tabs at any time, or send them between windows |
| 00:13.21 | Sho_ | Shadow_mil: Kopete tabbing is fairly flexible, really |
| 00:13.56 | Sho_ | Shadow_mil: Settings -> Configure... -> Behavior -> Chat -> Chat Window Grouping Policy |
| 00:14.32 | Sho_ | Shadow_mil: You can for example set it to group chats from the same account into window |
| 00:14.42 | Sho_ | Or from the same contact group |
| 00:14.44 | Sho_ | etc. |
| 00:15.33 | Shadow_mil | Sho_: what about aliases and user grouping (for users that have accounts on multiple IMs) |
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| 00:15.40 | Renze | Shadow_mil: metacontacts |
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| 00:15.50 | Sho_ | Shadow_mil: Yup, it does freely namable metacontacts |
| 00:16.02 | Renze | Shadow_mil: I have metacontacts with accounts from four different IM protocols |
| 00:16.06 | Sho_ | Shadow_mil: Along with KAddressBook integration (as Konversation does it, too) |
| 00:16.15 | i_is_cat | when you choose audio disc on k3b and chuck in mp3's will it convert them to wav or whatever proper format is for audio cd? |
| 00:16.18 | benJIman | Shadow_mil: just drag the smaller protocol icons, onto other metacontacts, it's very simple |
| 00:16.30 | benJIman | i_is_cat: yes. |
| 00:16.32 | Renze | i_is_cat: yes, they will be converted to cda |
| 00:16.36 | i_is_cat | cool |
| 00:22.41 | Shadow_mil | sorry if this is a total idiot question, but where do I hide offline buddies? |
| 00:22.51 | Shadow_mil | I can't find it lol |
| 00:23.04 | Renze | Shadow_mil: Settings -> Hide Offline Users |
| 00:23.22 | Renze | menu, not config dialog |
| 00:23.28 | Shadow_mil | lol |
| 00:23.36 | Shadow_mil | I was looking in the configure |
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| 00:25.20 | canllaith | Darn! |
| 00:25.24 | qupada | hey canllaith |
| 00:25.27 | canllaith | Has anyone seem Jucato? |
| 00:25.29 | canllaith | hey qupada :) |
| 00:25.33 | canllaith | erm, seen |
| 00:25.38 | Shadow_mil | ok now how do I move groups |
| 00:25.50 | qupada | nickserv says it saw him 7 hours ago |
| 00:26.02 | Shadow_mil | god.. .I feel like a idiot |
| 00:26.14 | Sho_ | canllaith: He should get up fairly soon |
| 00:26.54 | Shadow_mil | wait... |
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| 00:31.23 | Shadow_mil | yeah... I don't think it can be done :( |
| 00:32.01 | Sho_ | Shadow_mil: What do you mean with "Move groups"? |
| 00:32.35 | Shadow_mil | I have 4 groups, AIM Bots, Online Friends, People I know in RL, and Unknown |
| 00:33.09 | Shadow_mil | I want to order the groups like: "People I know in RL" "Online friends" "Unknown" and "AIM bots" |
| 00:33.24 | Sho_ | Ah, change the sorting of the groups in the buddy list |
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| 00:35.12 | Sho_ | Shadow_mil: Can't seem to find a way to do that either |
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| 00:36.02 | ccherrett | is there a way to disable alt+tab so I can let the gimp use it? |
| 00:36.29 | Sho_ | chronos: KControl -> Regional & Accessibility -> Keyboard Shortcuts -> Walk Through Windows |
| 00:36.38 | Sho_ | ccherrett I meant, sorry |
| 00:36.46 | Sho_ | chronos: Change that shortcut from Alt+Tab to anything you want |
| 00:36.53 | Shadow_mil | damn it... |
| 00:36.59 | ccherrett | Sho_: thanks :) |
| 00:37.11 | Shadow_mil | ctrl+alt+bs is no fun |
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| 00:37.25 | benJIman | Sho_: not implemented mind reading tab-completing for konversation yet then ;) |
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| 00:37.59 | benJIman | Sho_: you could make it prefer nicks that have been most recently active I suppose |
| 00:38.29 | Sho_ | benJIman: Well, c<Tab> currently completes to ccherrett due to him being the last active chatter for the given prefix (it's alphabetical from there on). But I'm tired and pressed tab twice ;) |
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| 00:39.10 | Shadow_mil | Sho_: http://shadowmil.is-a-geek.org/gaimvskopete.png |
| 00:39.13 | Shadow_mil | like that |
| 00:39.32 | Sho_ | Shadow_mil: Can't seem to find a way to do that either, sorry |
| 00:39.36 | Shadow_mil | :( |
| 00:39.37 | Renze | Shadow_mil: you could prefix the group names with numbers |
| 00:39.45 | benJIman | Indeed |
| 00:39.47 | Shadow_mil | ^_- |
| 00:39.50 | benJIman | the chat list is alphabetical |
| 00:39.53 | Sho_ | benJIman: So, it already does the "recently active" thing |
| 00:39.59 | benJIman | That won't be customizable until kde4 |
| 00:40.17 | qupada | Shadow_mil: it's like, grey, and stuff |
| 00:41.00 | Shadow_mil | qupada: ? |
| 00:41.17 | qupada | Shadow_mil: commenting on your colour scheme |
| 00:41.32 | Shadow_mil | qupada: don't you like it :( |
| 00:42.00 | qupada | i wouldn't say that |
| 00:42.42 | Shadow_mil | also something else about GAIM I like, it allows you to sort users in groups by log size, any chance that exist in kopete? |
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| 00:43.15 | qupada | heh, makes me realise how long it's been since i used gaim |
| 00:43.33 | qupada | i ditched it not long after 2.0.0_beta1 came out, didn't like the direction it was heading |
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| 00:44.07 | Shadow_mil | does kopete even have logging? |
| 00:44.15 | Renze | Shadow_mil: yes, via the history plugin |
| 00:44.18 | Sho_ | Yup. Activate the "History" plugin. |
| 00:44.46 | ccherrett | Sho_: man no go. I turned it off and it is still capturing alt+tab |
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| 00:46.11 | Sho_ | ccherrett: Not here. When I set Walk Through Windows to "None", the tab box no longer appears on Alt+Tab, but Gimp will toggle its palettes. |
| 00:46.11 | Shadow_mil | Renze: ok history plugin is on |
| 00:46.11 | Sho_ | ccherrett: Are you using a window manager other than kwin, perhaps? |
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| 00:46.32 | Sho_ | canllaith: There you go |
| 00:46.34 | ccherrett | Sho_: not sure :) |
| 00:46.46 | Solifugus | So is koffice finally going to stabilize in kde4? I needs a lot of debugging, not new features. |
| 00:46.47 | qupada | could you not use the "block global shortcuts" option in application-specific settings to fix this? |
| 00:47.30 | Sho_ | qupada: Not if he's not using kwin |
| 00:47.45 | Sho_ | qupada: And if he was using kwin, deactivating the shortcut should have worked |
| 00:48.29 | ccherrett | Sho_: how can I check what I am running? |
| 00:48.48 | Sho_ | ccherrett: ps aux | grep kwin |
| 00:49.02 | vbgunz | maybe someone might know what I am after. I have a window that I purposely make "skip the taskbar"... Now, I cannot minimize it OR make it disappear when I click on the "desktop shortcut"... The reason, I want it to minimize is because I actually have it in the system tray using ksystraycmd... *but* it appears, KDE does not allow me to minimize at all if I skip the taskbar... Could I be missing something? |
| 00:49.02 | Jucato | moin Sho_, canllaith, Renze, qupada! |
| 00:49.04 | Solifugus | Does anyone here use kloose? |
| 00:49.12 | qupada | morning Jucato |
| 00:49.14 | ccherrett | Sho_: looks like kwin |
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| 00:49.17 | Solifugus | Oh yeah.. it's called gnome |
| 00:49.18 | Renze | moin Jucato |
| 00:49.38 | Sho_ | Solifugus: What's Kloose? |
| 00:49.49 | vbgunz | whats gnome? |
| 00:49.57 | vbgunz | heh |
| 00:50.03 | Solifugus | I am just trying to troll here... |
| 00:50.14 | Solifugus | taking a break from coding |
| 00:50.16 | Sho_ | Solifugus: Not working so far |
| 00:50.28 | Renze | Solifugus: then it probably would have been better to spell "lose" correctly :D |
| 00:50.35 | benJIman | vbgunz: you can use the window operations menu to minimise it? |
| 00:50.38 | Sho_ | Solifugus: I mean, this is one of the big two desktops and all. We have our standards when it comes to trolls. |
| 00:50.54 | Solifugus | ok.. sorry about that. |
| 00:51.12 | Solifugus | the koversation irc client needs to have built in spell checking. |
| 00:51.13 | vbgunz | benJIman: no, I cannot minimize the Window using any controls on the window or the desktop shortcut |
| 00:51.23 | Sho_ | Solifugus: It does, actually |
| 00:51.24 | Jucato | Solifugus: it already does |
| 00:51.27 | vbgunz | minimize is actually faded out on the menu |
| 00:51.30 | Sho_ | Solifugus: Right-click the input line, activate Automatic Spell-checking |
| 00:51.37 | Sho_ | Solifugus: The same in most KDE text input areas |
| 00:51.37 | Solifugus | wow.. cool.. |
| 00:51.40 | Renze | Solifugus: it wouldn't have picked it up... loose is also a valid word, it's just not the same meaning as lose |
| 00:51.53 | Shadow_mil | ok how can I view my logs in kopete? |
| 00:52.04 | Renze | Shadow_mil: right click contact, view history |
| 00:52.07 | Solifugus | maybe it needs irc-compliant grammar checking. |
| 00:52.07 | Sho_ | Shadow_mil: Right-click a buddy |
| 00:52.22 | Shadow_mil | ok |
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| 00:52.32 | Shadow_mil | how do I sort by log size? |
| 00:52.38 | Sho_ | You can't, afaik |
| 00:52.49 | benJIman | you could with a file manager |
| 00:52.50 | Shadow_mil | :( |
| 00:52.57 | Sho_ | ;-) |
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| 00:54.36 | Sho_ | I'm off to bed -- g'night |
| 00:54.44 | Jucato | g'night Sho_! |
| 00:54.56 | Sho_ | Jucato: Change of shifts ;) |
| 00:55.15 | Jucato | hehe :) |
| 00:55.23 | qupada | heh, if we're having a 'changing of the guard' ceremony can we have guys in funny hats and a bugle call too? |
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| 00:59.44 | dcorbin | How do set the level of output for kdDebug()? |
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| 01:00.16 | pinotree | eh? |
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| 01:03.28 | dcorbin | the kmail source code refers to a method kddebug(). |
| 01:03.34 | Shadow_mil | I don't know... I think as of right now, GAIM has better group and name organization |
| 01:03.36 | dcorbin | I'm trying to enable more outptut. |
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| 01:08.51 | pinotree | dcorbin: use kdebugdialog |
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| 01:10.45 | dcorbin | pinotree: thanks |
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| 01:38.30 | hagabaka | is there a way to change the size of the icons on the left column of KMenu? they're a little larger than icons in regular application menus |
| 01:39.59 | Jucato | hagabaka: http://wiki.kde.org/tiki-index.php?page=Hidden%20configuration <--- scroll down a bit to the "change K Menu icon size" |
| 01:40.16 | hagabaka | thanks |
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| 01:42.36 | hagabaka | where is the "automatic window placement" setting, where you can let new windows automatically get placed at a corner, cascade, etc? |
| 01:43.16 | hagabaka | ah, found it |
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| 01:52.37 | canllaith | Jucato: hey :) |
| 01:52.43 | Jucato | :) |
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| 02:02.18 | Shadow_mil | dead channel... |
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| 02:23.43 | tgc0d3r | hello all |
| 02:24.49 | tgc0d3r | I am looking for distros that keep a default kde install |
| 02:24.55 | t35t0r | one can sort of simulate tabs by using the BII window decorations |
| 02:25.13 | t35t0r | kubuntu |
| 02:25.23 | t35t0r | suse/opensuse is heavy with it |
| 02:25.41 | tgc0d3r | t35t0r: using Kubuntu now and it is far from default :-\ |
| 02:25.48 | t35t0r | try suse/opensuse |
| 02:25.58 | t35t0r | i would of course use gentoo :> |
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| 02:26.06 | t35t0r | but i don't know how much patience you have heh .. |
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| 02:26.14 | tgc0d3r | tried, they change a bunch too |
| 02:26.27 | t35t0r | although even gentoo binary package cd's |
| 02:26.41 | tgc0d3r | yeah, I love some gentoo |
| 02:26.47 | t35t0r | fedora i think comes with it also |
| 02:27.02 | tgc0d3r | they just screw it up royally |
| 02:27.07 | wolsni | it sounds like he's looking for a distro that doesn't modify KDE |
| 02:27.07 | tgc0d3r | lol |
| 02:27.08 | hydrant | FreeBSD for the win :D |
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| 02:27.18 | wolsni | which is definitely not the case with fedora :) |
| 02:27.22 | t35t0r | well it's been working great on gentoo |
| 02:27.30 | hydrant | FreeBSD's KDE install is pretty vanilla as far as I can tell. |
| 02:27.30 | tgc0d3r | wolsni: precisely |
| 02:28.10 | tgc0d3r | hydrant: well, how is FreeBSD on dialup? I'm stuck with that for a little while. |
| 02:28.29 | canllaith | If you want one that doesn't modify KDE, slackware or freeBSD definitely |
| 02:29.14 | hydrant | tgc0d3r: Sorry, I've never tried it on dial-up :( But there is an option during install to configure PPP, so it is probably supported :) |
| 02:29.26 | t35t0r | Dynamic linking on your system is consistent... All done. :> |
| 02:30.33 | davascript_home | tgc0d3r: ask #freebsd |
| 02:30.40 | davascript_home | thats no kde specific |
| 02:30.46 | tgc0d3r | yeah, gentoo doesn't modify either |
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| 02:31.06 | davascript_home | gentoo makes you modify it all |
| 02:31.12 | davascript_home | thats why its the most configurable |
| 02:31.16 | tgc0d3r | yep :-) |
| 02:31.55 | tgc0d3r | i've just gotten lazy and wanted an unmodified kde install but not have to go the compiling route |
| 02:31.57 | davascript_home | imnot trying to be a gentoo troll but gentoo does own |
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| 02:33.06 | t35t0r | well gentoo does do lots of modifications ..i've heard complaints from upline devs |
| 02:33.35 | t35t0r | not sure how .. e.g. the beep media player devs can't always complain |
| 02:34.27 | canllaith | KDE devs sure complain about gentoo |
| 02:34.30 | canllaith | Split. Ebuilds. |
| 02:34.56 | tgc0d3r | canllaith: yeah, i remember that |
| 02:35.01 | canllaith | It's a support nightmare, people sometimes have difficulty understanding that their KDE isn't working because of how they've installed them, and not anything to do with KDE |
| 02:35.43 | mcquaid | does anyone get slow down/high cpu in konq on certain pages? e.g digg.com gives me this |
| 02:36.03 | tgc0d3r | I was wondering what a widely used distro for the KDE devs is |
| 02:36.30 | canllaith | suse and kubuntu, I imagine |
| 02:36.31 | wolsni | no slowdown here, mcquaid |
| 02:36.35 | canllaith | but a smattering of everything really |
| 02:37.04 | mcquaid | i have flash but no flash ad currently on page |
| 02:37.09 | tgc0d3r | so they don't have to use a distro that has an unmodified install? |
| 02:37.16 | Jucato | mcquaid: I think that's a bug that only happens w/ digg. I think there's a bug report about it already |
| 02:37.28 | mcquaid | could you try moving a windowed app around with konq in the background on digg? |
| 02:37.31 | canllaith | It helps. I think most developers tend to use the distribution as a base and then compile their own KDE |
| 02:37.47 | mcquaid | that makes a slideshow here |
| 02:38.07 | wolsni | it's about the same for me |
| 02:38.11 | t35t0r | well we have now kde-meta |
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| 02:38.25 | t35t0r | it's great ..it's the user's that screw it up |
| 02:38.37 | tgc0d3r | t35t0r: that's usually the case |
| 02:38.39 | tgc0d3r | lol |
| 02:39.01 | t35t0r | as always ..that's why #gentoo is always #1 or #2 in terms of people in the channel because of a) support issues 2) popularity ... i think the former lol |
| 02:39.29 | tgc0d3r | i'm guilty of that |
| 02:40.00 | mcquaid | i really like dolphin btw, just tried it a couple of days ago. |
| 02:40.17 | canllaith | I also like dolphin a lot |
| 02:40.45 | mcquaid | ya pretty cool so far, I hope they add a delete option instead of just trash |
| 02:41.00 | Jucato | Shift+Del doesn't work? |
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| 02:41.48 | mcquaid | ya shfit del works fine, just like having the option in the menu so no biggie right now |
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| 02:42.25 | tgc0d3r | ok, i've gotta split. Thanks for the advice everybody! l8rz |
| 02:43.27 | wolsni | mcquaid: you can add a 'delete' button to the toolbar in dolphin |
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| 02:44.24 | mcquaid | yes true, which i'll probably do |
| 02:45.03 | mcquaid | hmm, i'm using dolphin .8 in ubuntu edgy, a couple of neat things in the latest, i wonder if there's a rep that holds more recent versions |
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| 02:46.21 | Jucato | you'd have to compile the latest (0.8.2) |
| 02:46.35 | Jucato | and that's the last official release they will be making for the KDE 3.5.x series |
| 02:47.24 | mcquaid | ah ok |
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| 02:47.49 | mcquaid | i just noticed the site has .8.1 debs, and 8.2 just provides translations |
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| 03:00.26 | nondysjunction | Heya |
| 03:00.39 | nondysjunction | I'm trying to execute a few commands on KDE start, how can I automate this? |
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| 03:00.50 | Renze | ~autostart |
| 03:00.53 | apt | To start a program or set an environment variable at KDE login, see: http://docs.kde.org/development/en/kdebase/faq/configure.html#id2560261 - or, if you want a GUI - http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=45975 |
| 03:00.53 | t35t0r | nondysjunction, put them in ~/.kde/Autostart |
| 03:00.58 | Renze | nondysjunction: see above |
| 03:01.01 | nondysjunction | t35t0r: thanks. |
| 03:01.05 | wolsni | nondysjunction: in konqueror, go -> autostart |
| 03:01.10 | nondysjunction | Heya again, Renze. :) |
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| 03:01.17 | wolsni | then you can drag shortcuts or scripts in to the directory easily :) |
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| 03:01.22 | t35t0r | nondysjunction, e.g. i put ln -s /usr/bin/conky ~/.kde/Autostart/conky |
| 03:02.05 | Jucato | hi Renze! |
| 03:02.09 | nondysjunction | t35t0r: ~/.kde/Autostart is a directory, what do I do, put scripts in it? I was expecting a file... |
| 03:02.19 | Renze | hi Jucato & nondysjunction |
| 03:02.25 | t35t0r | you put whatever you want in it symlinks, scripts, etc |
| 03:02.32 | Renze | nondysjunction: scripts, desktop files, or symlinks |
| 03:02.33 | canllaith | nondysjunction: anything kfmclient can execute |
| 03:02.38 | canllaith | symlinks, .desktop files or scripts |
| 03:02.41 | nondysjunction | canllaith: cool, thanks |
| 03:02.50 | t35t0r | so if i put a jpg in it, that would always show up? |
| 03:02.57 | t35t0r | like launched by konq? |
| 03:03.02 | canllaith | No |
| 03:03.05 | t35t0r | heh boo |
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| 03:03.15 | t35t0r | it has to be executable ok |
| 03:03.26 | Lanken | konqueror displays svg, right? |
| 03:03.37 | canllaith | yup if your distribution has svg support |
| 03:03.39 | nondysjunction | It's weird... my volume knob will NOT work when setup properly, but when i reverse the knobular polarity with Xmodmap, it works fine. Heh. |
| 03:04.02 | Renze | knobular polarity... sounds kinky |
| 03:04.18 | Lanken | what distribution would lack svg support? |
| 03:04.26 | Lanken | I have a pretty normal gentoo install. |
| 03:04.36 | Renze | Lanken: check your USE flags |
| 03:04.48 | Lanken | konqi doesn't have a use flag for svg in gentoo |
| 03:04.59 | Renze | Lanken: how about KDE in general? |
| 03:05.30 | Renze | Lanken: I have "svg" in make.conf, and svg works fine |
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| 03:06.07 | redtricycle | 3 |
| 03:06.34 | Lanken | Renze: it's hard to say for kde in general. I started from kdebase-startkde, and that has no svg flag. I did emerge -pv kde | grep svg, and nothing came out, but I don't know if that means anything. |
| 03:07.29 | Renze | Lanken: I see two possible causes then: 1) missing svg use flag, and 2) incomplete install of KDE |
| 03:07.50 | Lanken | incomplete install of kde sounds likely. I intentionally tried to start with the bare bones. |
| 03:08.10 | Renze | Lanken: no, you started with what gentoo considers to be bare bones |
| 03:08.20 | Renze | there is a difference |
| 03:08.52 | Lanken | which way does the difference go? does gentoo rip things out that belong? |
| 03:09.13 | Renze | Lanken: no idea, you will have to ask the gentoo people |
| 03:09.58 | Lanken | I don't have svg flagged up in USE, so it could easily be that, too. |
| 03:13.03 | canllaith | gah why do I have to click yes to three bloody dialogues before vmware will start?!? |
| 03:14.05 | Lanken | Renze: maybe I need ksvg. |
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| 03:14.34 | Renze | Lanken: very possibly |
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| 03:15.55 | Renze | Lanken: I have no idea what kdebase-startkde pulls in, so you're on your own. partial installs are next-to-impossible to support. |
| 03:16.15 | Lanken | Renze: I don't expect miracles. |
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| 03:17.01 | Lanken | Renze: I'm getting ksvg now, and if that doesn't work it's still not a big deal. I think starting from kdebase-startkde was good, though, because every time I run into something like this I learn a little bit about how KDE works. |
| 03:18.08 | Renze | Lanken: not really... you're just learning how KDE split ebuilds in gentoo work |
| 03:18.23 | Renze | Lanken: KDE is not distributed in split form |
| 03:19.17 | Jucato | ~split-ebuilds |
| 03:19.20 | apt | If you didn't build the whole of a KDE module, we can't offer support. See http://lists.kde.org/?l=kde-devel&m=110806759516927&w=2 for the reason. Try #gentoo if you don't want to install the full KDE module. |
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| 03:21.55 | Lanken | Renze: I'm still not clear on what the "full KDE module" is. Does it include koffice? I know I don't need all of koffice. |
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| 03:22.23 | Renze | Lanken: kdelibs is a module. kdebase is a module. kdegames is a module. |
| 03:22.25 | Renze | etc etc |
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| 03:22.42 | wolsni | Lanken: http://kde.org/download/ see the list at the bottom there |
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| 03:24.52 | Lanken | that's a list of the modules? (sorry for ignorance) which depend on which others? You need kdebase for sure, right? |
| 03:25.11 | Renze | you need kdelibs to run kde apps... you need kdebase to have a minimal desktop |
| 03:25.24 | Renze | kdebase will not work without kdelibs |
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| 03:25.49 | Renze | but kdebase-startkde may or may not pull in all that is required from kdebase |
| 03:26.03 | Lanken | ah, so the foundation is kdelibs, and kdebase provides a desktop without task-oriented apps, just components that make it an "environment" |
| 03:26.21 | Renze | yes, but split ebuilds break up kdebase |
| 03:26.41 | Lanken | and the other modules (with exceptions, like arts) provide sets of apps that sort of go together. |
| 03:26.48 | Renze | yes |
| 03:27.11 | Lanken | (a task-oriented app would be kolourpaint or kcalc, things you need to "get stuff done" with your computer, not just to manage the computer itself) |
| 03:28.34 | Jucato | so konqueror and kate/kwrite wouldn't be considered task-oriented? |
| 03:28.52 | Jucato | (web browser and text editor) |
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| 03:29.24 | Lanken | konqueror is also the filesystem browser, of course. so it's clear that it has a non-task-oriented aspect. |
| 03:29.47 | Lanken | (I'm not married to this term, task-oriented, I just grabbed in trying to communicate) |
| 03:29.54 | Jucato | :D |
| 03:29.56 | qupada | Lanken: so there is a 50-mile wide canyon between kwrite (a "text editor") and kword (a "word processor")? |
| 03:30.01 | Jucato | first time I heard of the term... |
| 03:30.10 | Jucato | that's why I was curious |
| 03:30.49 | Lanken | qupada: it's just that kwrite is necessary if you want to do things to your computer (change your use flags or something) without "resorting" to the command line |
| 03:31.09 | Jucato | I use kwrite for making web pages or coding... |
| 03:31.19 | Jucato | er.. kate |
| 03:31.34 | Jucato | :D |
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| 03:31.44 | qupada | Lanken: wrong again |
| 03:31.54 | qupada | i use vi to edit configuration files |
| 03:31.55 | wolsni | need a simple editor, go with kedit; need something more complex, go with kate |
| 03:32.00 | Lanken | I was proposing that kdebase can be described as "all the things you need to use your computer" and the other modules are "things that you don't need for managing your computer, but that you might use to get things done" |
| 03:32.01 | wolsni | where does kwrite fit in? |
| 03:32.02 | qupada | kwrite is used for writing stuff |
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| 03:32.12 | Jucato | wolsni: kate can be simple too :) |
| 03:32.22 | Lanken | qupada: vi is a command-line app. It's great, but it's on the command line. |
| 03:32.35 | wolsni | Jucato: it is definitely more feature-rich |
| 03:32.41 | Renze | but? the commandline is where the real power is ;) |
| 03:32.43 | qupada | Lanken: so? |
| 03:32.52 | qupada | Lanken: i also use irssi |
| 03:33.02 | qupada | that's a command line app too |
| 03:33.16 | Jucato | wolsni: true, but doesn't mean that because it's feature rich it's not good for simple use :) |
| 03:33.18 | Lanken | anyway the usefulness of kwrite for making webpages and konqueror for viewing them is incidental. You might use kdebase apps for exterior tasks, but anything not in kdebase isn't essential for cli-free management of your computer (if you desire such a thing) |
| 03:33.48 | Jucato | hm.. kuser and kpackage in kdeadmin... |
| 03:33.57 | Lanken | I've never used kedit. |
| 03:34.11 | Jucato | those aren't in kdebase and yet essential if you want a cli-free management |
| 03:34.21 | qupada | and what about kdeprint? |
| 03:34.47 | Lanken | Jucato: good to know. I'm trying to get an idea of the anatomy of kde, not trying to convince anyone of anything. |
| 03:34.50 | Jucato | heh anyway, let's not go off on arguing about "task-oriented" |
| 03:34.58 | qupada | because believe me, i've added printers to cups from the command-line, and it sucks |
| 03:35.09 | Lanken | qupada: which module is it in? |
| 03:35.21 | qupada | kdebase |
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| 03:36.10 | Lanken | where is this stuff listed. the contents of each module and descriptions of what they do, I mean. |
| 03:36.32 | Jucato | Lanken: currently, KDE is divided into modules, or group of related apps. some modules depend on another module being installed first: kdelibs is the base requirement. then there's kdebase for a basic KDE system. the others are kdemultimedia, kdepim, kdeutils, kdeadmin, kdeaddons, kdegraphics, etc. |
| 03:36.59 | Lanken | so I gather :) |
| 03:37.14 | Lanken | gentoo gives some information about what is in each module. |
| 03:37.18 | Jucato | then there are "modules" that are not exactly under the wing of the main KDE modules mentioned above because they have different release schedules, but are still part of KDE. this includes KOffice and extragear (where amarok, kaffeine, and k3b belong) |
| 03:37.59 | Lanken | I merged those all individually (except k3b, I have no burner) |
| 03:38.35 | wolsni | k3b is a pretty impressive program |
| 03:38.49 | qupada | but not a part of kde as such |
| 03:38.49 | Jucato | and it just released it's first "real" stable :) |
| 03:38.52 | Lanken | I'm distressed that, for instance, kubuntu, doesn't make a list of what's in it prominent on its webpage. |
| 03:38.59 | qupada | Jucato: indeed. k3b 1.0 rocks |
| 03:39.10 | Lanken | my school has a linux distro, and I know how to get isos but i have no idea what I'd find on them. |
| 03:39.12 | Jucato | a lot of impressive KDE programs are not in KDE "main" (for lack of a better word) |
| 03:39.21 | Jucato | k3b, amarok, konversation |
| 03:39.30 | Jucato | kmplayer/kplayer, yakuake, filelight |
| 03:39.33 | Lanken | Jucato: konversation ships with kubuntu |
| 03:39.43 | Jucato | Lanken: that doesn't mean it's part of "main" KDE |
| 03:39.50 | Lanken | Jucato: of course not ! |
| 03:39.52 | Jucato | but thank goodness they shipped w/ Konvi :) |
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| 03:40.07 | wolsni | Lanken: adept should show you summaries for all packages |
| 03:40.14 | wolsni | in kubuntu, that is |
| 03:40.19 | Lanken | oh, incidentally, my friend installed kubuntu and the default channel is #kubuntu, not #kde :) |
| 03:40.31 | Lanken | good thing, too considering how they mangle kcontrol in kubuntu. |
| 03:40.42 | Jucato | they didn't mangle kcontrol |
| 03:40.43 | Lanken | s/too/too,/ |
| 03:40.54 | Jucato | they left it alone and made their own |
| 03:41.08 | Lanken | Jucato: oh. Their "system settings" dialogue is ugly. Can he just launch kcontrol? |
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| 03:41.48 | qupada | Lanken: yeah, just type 'kcontrol' into the 'run command' dialogue |
| 03:41.57 | Jucato | Lanken: yes |
| 03:42.00 | Lanken | qupada: nice. |
| 03:42.55 | Lanken | Jucato: do you know what they're going for with that thing? Aren't they kind of reinventing the wheel? |
| 03:43.06 | Jucato | Lanken: not really. |
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| 03:43.17 | Jucato | they are using the same stuff that Kcontrol uses |
| 03:43.17 | qupada | yeah, unfortunately they're not reinventing a round wheel. it's more of a triangle |
| 03:43.36 | Jucato | they're only changing the wrapper around it, and the arrangement/groupings |
| 03:43.46 | Jucato | but yeah, it's definitely not perfect |
| 03:44.13 | Lanken | my first kde was kubuntu, so you would expect that I'd find their way of doing things to be more natural, but I really don't. This time around, everything makes much more sense. |
| 03:44.17 | Jucato | but the groupings in system settings are more logical than those in kcontrol. most probably because el (Ellen Reitmeyr) worked on it |
| 03:44.47 | Lanken | the groupings might be better but they should have used a tree view. |
| 03:45.04 | Jucato | Lanken: I guess that will be gone in KControl soon too |
| 03:45.19 | Lanken | nooooooo! |
| 03:45.27 | Jucato | not really sure. |
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| 03:45.59 | Jucato | but based on the HIG for KDE 4, tree view configurations are not to be encouraged |
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| 03:46.35 | Lanken | Renze: after merging ksvg and restarting konqueror, I now have svg rendering. |
| 03:46.42 | Jucato | but I wouldn't worry too much... there's not indication that work on kcontrol itself has started :) |
| 03:46.43 | Renze | ok |
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| 03:47.32 | Lanken | Jucato: tree views are bad for most things. The tree view in foobar2000 on windows is horrible daunting. |
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| 03:48.06 | Lanken | Jucato: but for a desktop-wide configuration program, with icons for each line, it's very good. |
| 03:48.25 | Jucato | Lanken: have you tried kcontrol's icon view mode? |
| 03:48.29 | Lanken | nope |
| 03:48.45 | wolsni | the icon view is worse than the tree view, imho |
| 03:48.58 | Lanken | ah! that's awful. |
| 03:49.01 | Jucato | I use that though :) |
| 03:49.14 | Jucato | having no other alternative... |
| 03:49.17 | Jucato | oh well |
| 03:49.23 | wolsni | settings:// in konqueror is nicer |
| 03:49.33 | Lanken | why don't you use tree view, Jucato? |
| 03:49.48 | wolsni | that is, settings:/// |
| 03:49.49 | Jucato | heh settings:// is basically the same thing as system settings :) |
| 03:49.54 | Jucato | except groupd differently |
| 03:50.04 | Jucato | settings:/ |
| 03:50.33 | Lanken | heh, so you can reach the text configs, nice. |
| 03:50.35 | Jucato | Lanken: it just makes kcontrol look all the more kluttered |
| 03:51.13 | Lanken | the tree view does? better to acknowledge the clutter than to hide it in multiple levels though. |
| 03:51.28 | wolsni | Jucato: configuring the configurator? o_O |
| 03:51.48 | Jucato | :) |
| 03:52.03 | Lanken | Jucato: that's very weird. Who uses kcontrol so often that they can benefit from that??? |
| 03:52.18 | qupada | no, you cannot configure the configurator. will cause the universe to implode |
| 03:52.19 | Jucato | everyone uses kcontrol often? |
| 03:52.39 | wolsni | Lanken: a distro maintainer could use that to tweak the defaults also |
| 03:52.46 | Lanken | yes, but ... I don't think I'd be faster at using it if I had the sheets arranged differently. |
| 03:53.14 | Jucato | you're only faster now because you're used to where things are placed, even if they're not logically/correctly placed |
| 03:53.15 | Lanken | wolsni: shouldn't that be discouraged though? it's nice and liberal that it happens, but it's annoying when you're looking for help at #kde |
| 03:53.26 | Lanken | brb |
| 03:53.44 | wolsni | Lanken: that's what instructions like "kcmshell icons" are for :P |
| 03:53.54 | Jucato | unfortunately, despite kcontroledit, there seems to be an unspoken rule against modifying kcontrol... |
| 03:54.10 | Brazil4Linux | How to back with the My computer and Trash icons on desktop? |
| 03:55.05 | wolsni | Brazil4Linux: open system:/// in konqueror and drag the appropriate icons onto the desktop |
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| 03:57.09 | Renze | wolsni: that one has no colon |
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| 04:07.35 | AnnaFX | hi all |
| 04:08.27 | AnnaFX | how to make a script thta will automatically send any newly opened window to the desktop 1 in a 2 multiple desktops configuration |
| 04:08.30 | AnnaFX | ? |
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| 04:09.49 | Renze | with the 'kstart' command |
| 04:09.57 | Renze | kstart --help in a konsole to find out more |
| 04:11.10 | t35t0r | is there a timeline for the release fo 3.5.7 ? |
| 04:11.53 | Renze | nope... not even sure if there will be a 3.5.7 at the moment |
| 04:12.07 | Solifugus | It's really sad the kspread cannot import a simple, .csv file properly. |
| 04:12.55 | wolsni | Solifugus: i haven't encountered any problems importing .csv files, although it's been a while since i've needed to |
| 04:13.48 | Solifugus | One column that holds a quoted date as, "2007-03-18 21:05:18" only imports the "2007-03-18" part, for example.. |
| 04:14.14 | Solifugus | the rest is just missing.. |
| 04:14.23 | t35t0r | what's the DCOP call for Window Behavior ..setting the transparency settings |
| 04:14.34 | Solifugus | Aslo.. quoted numbers are put in as numeric, instead of text.. |
| 04:14.44 | Renze | t35t0r: use kdcop to find out |
| 04:14.48 | bsdfox_ | AnnaFX: in KDE (at least with kwin) you can right click the title bar->advanced->special settings |
| 04:14.56 | t35t0r | Renze, that's what i'm doing i can't find it |
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| 04:15.39 | Renze | t35t0r: you need something other than starting/stopping kompmgr? |
| 04:16.01 | Renze | t35t0r: or setting opacity or shadow size? |
| 04:16.01 | t35t0r | no i just want to make a key shortcut for easily going to window behavior |
| 04:16.11 | Solifugus | kspread also only read my header line up to column KN... while data keeps going to KR... and then the next row of data continues, instead of going on the next line down. |
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| 04:16.17 | t35t0r | i turn transparency on and off frequently |
| 04:16.21 | Renze | t35t0r: oh, that's not a dcop call |
| 04:16.43 | Solifugus | What distribution do must kde developers use? |
| 04:16.49 | Solifugus | s/must/most |
| 04:16.57 | AnnaFX | yeah it works |
| 04:16.57 | bsdfox_ | Solifugus: gentoo |
| 04:17.00 | t35t0r | hrmm well maybe i should leave the transparency on all the time 100% and set it manually like i've been doing with alt + wheel mouse |
| 04:17.02 | AnnaFX | but not for "any" window |
| 04:17.05 | Lanken | gentoo, it seems. |
| 04:17.07 | t35t0r | it's a nice combination :> |
| 04:17.09 | AnnaFX | just for the window I told to |
| 04:17.14 | Renze | t35t0r: kcmshell kwinoptions |
| 04:17.16 | t35t0r | or wheel mouse on window decorations |
| 04:17.29 | AnnaFX | what is the code/script back |
| 04:17.34 | AnnaFX | back this |
| 04:17.54 | Renze | actually, very few kde developers use gentoo |
| 04:17.55 | t35t0r | Renze, how did you find that? |
| 04:18.09 | Renze | t35t0r: I paid attention in #kde :D |
| 04:18.15 | t35t0r | heh eok |
| 04:18.17 | Lanken | my friend set foobar2000 to 100% transparency in windows, and couldn't find it. The config dialogs were transparent too so he was pretty much screwed. He reinstalled the program. |
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| 04:19.00 | t35t0r | Renze, so is it a k-menu entry simple or wghat |
| 04:19.14 | Renze | t35t0r: huh? |
| 04:19.50 | t35t0r | where should i put kcmshell kwinoptions ..i guess i could make that into a script that I start with a shortcut but i would rather do that from input actions is that not possible? |
| 04:20.11 | Renze | t35t0r: of course it is possible in input actions... it is merely a command |
| 04:20.12 | wolsni | t35t0r: yes, it's possible to run a command from input actions |
| 04:20.22 | t35t0r | wolsni, Renze what's the action type? |
| 04:20.35 | t35t0r | ahh i think i know.. |
| 04:20.49 | Renze | keyboard shortcut -> command/url |
| 04:21.01 | t35t0r | yea.. |
| 04:21.09 | t35t0r | what's the difference between that and keyboard input |
| 04:21.28 | Renze | t35t0r: keyboard input is a shortcut to type something |
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| 04:22.43 | t35t0r | i really need a dual core with a nice gpu to use kde to it's full potential heh |
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| 04:22.47 | Renze | t35t0r: for example I could make a win+h shortcut that would type "hello" into the active app |
| 04:22.55 | t35t0r | ok |
| 04:26.07 | t35t0r | anyone know which version of KDE ships with RHEL5 ? |
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| 04:27.52 | Slyfoot | Hey folks... I have a question about switching keyboard layouts. I have English with dead keys and regular English. I need to switch between them, but the only way I can do it is by clicking on the icon. For some reason I can't seem to switch them with the keyboard (with ctrl-alt or ctrl-shift, etc) |
| 04:29.36 | Renze | Slyfoot: kcontrol -> regional & accessibility -> keyboard shortcuts, scroll to the bottom and find out what the shortcut is for switching to the next keyboard layout |
| 04:30.17 | wolsni | t35t0r: check distrowatch.com |
| 04:30.57 | Slyfoot | dóh!! |
| 04:30.58 | Slyfoot | oops |
| 04:31.07 | Slyfoot | d'oh |
| 04:31.10 | Slyfoot | Yeah, that works |
| 04:31.15 | Slyfoot | it's alt-ctrl-k |
| 04:31.28 | Slyfoot | I thought you were supposed to set that in Keyboard Layout |
| 04:31.32 | Slyfoot | Okay, thanks |
| 04:31.40 | Slyfoot | I appreciate it Renze |
| 04:31.44 | Renze | no problem |
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| 04:37.39 | ner0x | Where can I ask questions about KDE QT development? |
| 04:39.17 | Renze | ner0x: #kde-devel might be a good start |
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| 05:15.25 | mahogany | hello |
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| 05:15.55 | mahogany | i have a question about calendar systems if there is anyone around that knows about them |
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| 05:16.08 | wolsni | mahogany: just ask |
| 05:16.34 | mahogany | alright, can i make another calendar system? would i need to recompile part of KDE? |
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| 05:16.58 | mahogany | is it hard coded? |
| 05:17.06 | wolsni | mahogany: you're asking if you could create a new type of calendar resource? |
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| 05:17.26 | mahogany | yeah, i think ddate needs a kde system |
| 05:18.13 | wolsni | you mean a new date format, or a new resource type for korganizer? |
| 05:18.18 | mahogany | oh |
| 05:18.20 | mahogany | format |
| 05:18.32 | mahogany | not for korganizer |
| 05:18.33 | mahogany | for the system |
| 05:18.50 | mahogany | as opposed to gregorian, etc |
| 05:19.28 | wolsni | i would expect that to require a recompile and some code, but i'd have to peruse the source to be sure |
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| 05:19.57 | mahogany | k |
| 05:20.40 | mahogany | would be nice if it was modular |
| 05:20.53 | mahogany | but looking around that was sort of what i was suspecting |
| 05:21.42 | Jucato | mahogany: you could try asking the guys in #kontact as they might know. |
| 05:22.01 | mahogany | well it's not a kontact thing |
| 05:22.08 | mahogany | i don't think |
| 05:22.24 | Jucato | #kontact is the channel for the kdepim apps, which includes korganizer |
| 05:22.35 | mahogany | this is date/time stuff though |
| 05:22.36 | Jucato | so the devs of korgnizer might know |
| 05:22.38 | mahogany | ah |
| 05:22.41 | mahogany | good point |
| 05:23.02 | Jucato | they just *might* know... |
| 05:23.10 | Jucato | (wouldn't hurt to try asking, though...) |
| 05:23.18 | mahogany | thanks |
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| 05:27.54 | The3_14ed|r | ngaargh |
| 05:28.19 | The3_14ed|r | at least, that's what I think happened |
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| 05:29.42 | wolsni | Dhraakellian: is that a problem? |
| 05:29.42 | Dhraakellian | um, yes? |
| 05:29.43 | Dhraakellian | when I'm saving that torrent to a different partition |
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| 05:29.49 | wolsni | is that a problem you need help with? |
| 05:29.53 | Dhraakellian | which has quite enough disk space |
| 05:30.10 | Dhraakellian | is there a way to have ktorrent not use the temp dir like that? |
| 05:30.55 | wolsni | Dhraakellian: the ktorrent temp dir can be specified from the ktorrent settings |
| 05:31.00 | RAV_TUX | help is there an ircop around? |
| 05:31.12 | RAV_TUX | #sabayon is being spammed |
| 05:31.21 | wolsni | i am not intimately familiar with the bittorrent protocol, but I believe it more or less necessitates temp files |
| 05:31.29 | Dhraakellian | hrm |
| 05:31.59 | Jucato | RAV_TUX: ask some staffer in #freenode |
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| 05:33.31 | RAV_TUX | Jucato: please help |
| 05:33.50 | Jucato | RAV_TUX: I can't. I'm not an op in #sabayon. ask for some help from #freenode staffers |
| 05:34.19 | Renze | RAV_TUX: go to #freenode and ask for help there... there are no ircops in this channel |
| 05:34.24 | Jucato | ops in one channel don't have op access to other channels |
| 05:35.32 | RAV_TUX | I keep trying it forward me to #freenode social |
| 05:35.53 | RAV_TUX | isn't there a command to get op help? |
| 05:36.01 | RAV_TUX | from the freenode ops? |
| 05:36.07 | Renze | nope, you have to ask them |
| 05:37.52 | Jucato | RAV_TUX: that's normal. there are freenode staffers there too |
| 05:38.28 | RAV_TUX | for some reason I can't leave a messaage there |
| 05:38.28 | Jucato | RAV_TUX: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#helpfromstaff |
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| 05:42.09 | RAV_TUX | there are no ops around |
| 05:42.38 | Gentle` | can't be, they have workshifts so that somebody is always there |
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| 05:49.40 | Shadow_mil | how do I change the bg color of tips/popup help stuff |
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| 06:02.17 | Shadow_mil | is #kde dieing :( |
| 06:02.30 | benJIman | It's very early in europe. |
| 06:02.38 | benJIman | 06:02 GMT |
| 06:02.57 | Shadow_mil | its 2:03AM where I live |
| 06:03.16 | Shadow_mil | o crap... I been drinking coffee late at night again |
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| 06:03.54 | Shadow_mil | so when is there going to be a app for KDE that will clean my house? |
| 06:04.31 | Shadow_mil | lol picking |
| 06:04.46 | Jucato | Shadow_mil: it depends on the widget style you are using. some widget styles allow you to change the color of tooltips |
| 06:04.49 | Shadow_mil | konversation is really nice though |
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| 06:05.14 | Renze | Shadow_mil: I'm still waiting for the KDE app that will make pizza |
| 06:05.24 | Shadow_mil | Jucato: where do I eat widgets |
| 06:05.32 | Shadow_mil | edit* |
| 06:05.45 | Renze | Shadow_mil: kcontrol -> appearance & themes -> style |
| 06:05.52 | wolsni | Shadow_mil: alt + f2, kcmshell style |
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| 06:05.58 | Renze | the "Configure" button next to the dropdown |
| 06:06.32 | Jucato | but that depends on the Style you are using. Plastik, afaik, doesn't let you do that |
| 06:06.52 | Renze | serenity and domino do |
| 06:07.01 | Jucato | yay for domino :) |
| 06:07.13 | Renze | domino ftw! |
| 06:07.18 | Jucato | hm.. unless in Plastik, Mouseover highlight = tooltip color? |
| 06:07.24 | Renze | nope |
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| 06:07.41 | wolsni | Jucato: that makes it highlight toolbar buttons when you mouseover them |
| 06:08.12 | Shadow_mil | I am using domino |
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| 06:08.36 | Shadow_mil | o I found it |
| 06:08.39 | Jucato | wolsni: aaah |
| 06:09.09 | Jucato | Shadow_mil: then you're lucky |
| 06:09.12 | Jucato | :) |
| 06:09.15 | Jucato | one of the lucky ones :) |
| 06:10.27 | Shadow_mil | wowwow |
| 06:10.30 | Shadow_mil | wow* |
| 06:10.40 | Shadow_mil | Amarok started playing |
| 06:10.44 | Shadow_mil | "You got lucky" |
| 06:10.57 | Shadow_mil | By the heart breakers |
| 06:11.00 | Shadow_mil | what are the chances? |
| 06:11.07 | Shadow_mil | like one in 50,000 |
| 06:11.08 | Shadow_mil | lol |
| 06:11.09 | Renze | we made it do that... we have powers and stuff |
| 06:11.16 | Shadow_mil | lol |
| 06:11.35 | mahogany | no such thing as a coincidence, your computer is reading IRC |
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| 06:12.50 | Shadow_mil | really... once I complete intro to C++ and advance C++, I am thinking about developing for KDE |
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| 06:13.15 | wolsni | Shadow_mil: cool, any ideas for cool apps? |
| 06:13.19 | Shadow_mil | is KDE user or company supported? |
| 06:13.32 | Shadow_mil | wolsni: I have a *few* |
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| 06:14.12 | Shadow_mil | brb xorg-X11 just got done compiling |
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| 06:43.24 | mahogany | okay, leap year rules are really stupid |
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| 06:43.52 | mahogany | skipped in years that end in 66? |
| 06:45.28 | mahogany | unless the number of the century when devided by four leaves a remainder of 3, what were these people thinking? |
| 06:45.53 | mahogany | divided even |
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| 06:48.49 | illogic-al | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KyLqUf4cdwc |
| 06:50.43 | illogic-al | LLLLLLLLLLLMAO |
| 06:51.02 | illogic-al | that link is sooo funny |
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| 07:06.40 | t35t0r | oen can make music with desktop switches |
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| 07:11.42 | zLinux | hi :) |
| 07:11.52 | zLinux | can i paste 2 lines only? |
| 07:12.01 | zLinux | 3 actually |
| 07:12.08 | Lanken | do it. |
| 07:12.11 | zLinux | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:12.11 | zLinux | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:12.11 | zLinux | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:12.11 | zLinux | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:12.15 | zLinux | Lanken, thx |
| 07:12.29 | zLinux | i wanted to show you this because it always happens when i first start kde |
| 07:12.49 | zLinux | are the above kdeinit processes using normal cpu? |
| 07:12.52 | Lanken | heh, that doesn't look good. I hope somebody else can help you. I don't know anything about this. |
| 07:12.58 | zLinux | or are they run away processes that i should kill? |
| 07:13.08 | Lanken | what happens if you let them run? |
| 07:13.29 | zLinux | nothing but the system load is like 3 |
| 07:13.40 | zLinux | on my p4, 2.4 ghz |
| 07:14.05 | Lanken | better to figure out what's going wrong than to just kill them every damn time. |
| 07:14.14 | Lanken | I wish you luck. |
| 07:14.22 | Lanken | (by the way, that was four lines) |
| 07:14.23 | zLinux | Lanken, ok thx |
| 07:14.33 | zLinux | Lanken, ok sorry hehehe |
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| 08:16.08 | mefisto | hi guys |
| 08:16.11 | mefisto | small question |
| 08:17.07 | mefisto | can i make my taskbar to show only curren workspace's task-list |
| 08:17.15 | mefisto | ? |
| 08:17.35 | Renze | mefisto: right click panel, configure panel, taskbar page, top option |
| 08:17.51 | Renze | mefisto: untick it |
| 08:18.09 | Renze | mefisto: if you're using beryl, you're out of luck... it only works with kwin |
| 08:18.17 | mefisto | damn |
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| 08:18.25 | mefisto | then nevermind |
| 08:18.32 | mefisto | damn |
| 08:18.37 | SAS_Spidey01 | using kwin with kde does have its perks.. |
| 08:18.47 | mefisto | yeah |
| 08:18.59 | mefisto | but i need beryl for cutting designs |
| 08:19.51 | purplepenguins | I don't use beryl because I like my computer functioning properly :D |
| 08:20.04 | SAS_Spidey01 | well I guess no tools perfect |
| 08:20.23 | purplepenguins | and Kwin is pretty snazzy, I must say |
| 08:20.54 | mefisto | i stil think that fluxbox is best wm out there (and kde - best DE) |
| 08:20.59 | purplepenguins | might not have all those nice transparency effects |
| 08:21.17 | purplepenguins | I have considered trying to run a different WM on KDE |
| 08:21.25 | purplepenguins | but I don't really like any WM's enough |
| 08:21.30 | SAS_Spidey01 | WindowMaker has a special place in my heart :-) |
| 08:21.52 | purplepenguins | I used e16 once |
| 08:22.02 | purplepenguins | and I had OpenBox for a while with a lot of fun |
| 08:23.22 | mefisto | fluxbox tabed wondows are holy grail |
| 08:23.27 | mefisto | *is |
| 08:23.35 | mefisto | *tabbed windows |
| 08:23.50 | mefisto | ( need .. spellchecker .. fast ) |
| 08:24.29 | purplepenguins | I'm sad that nearly all of my apps are gtk apps |
| 08:25.07 | purplepenguins | I feel I should be using more kde apps but frankly they don't do what I want them to do |
| 08:25.45 | mefisto | emm ... konqueror works fine |
| 08:25.52 | mefisto | konsole too |
| 08:26.05 | mefisto | and thats i think is all i use from qt/kde |
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| 08:26.40 | purplepenguins | konsole and konqueror, amarok, k3b and kpdf are the big ones I use |
| 08:27.31 | purplepenguins | but with firefox, gaim, gftp, xchat, openoffice, gimp, vlc, linuxdc++ |
| 08:27.51 | Renze | out of those the only one I use is gimp |
| 08:27.59 | Renze | everything else is kde |
| 08:28.04 | mefisto | oh .. amarok too |
| 08:28.05 | mefisto | forgot |
| 08:28.11 | purplepenguins | I like gimp |
| 08:28.28 | purplepenguins | even its ui |
| 08:28.29 | TehKewl1 | me too |
| 08:28.29 | smileaf | kopete > gaim; konversation > xchat |
| 08:28.37 | TehKewl1 | Krita just doesn't cut it |
| 08:28.44 | purplepenguins | I don't care that it doesn't act like photoshop |
| 08:29.06 | purplepenguins | and I don't care that it lacks CMYK |
| 08:29.23 | purplepenguins | I tried using kopete recently |
| 08:29.28 | purplepenguins | soooo....uhhhh |
| 08:29.36 | TehKewl1 | I gave up on kopete |
| 08:29.42 | TehKewl1 | I use WengoPhone now |
| 08:29.52 | smileaf | I gave up on gaim the moment I found kopete =) |
| 08:29.53 | purplepenguins | I have some fond memories of konversation but I prefer xchat |
| 08:30.10 | purplepenguins | kopete is so different |
| 08:30.13 | Renze | no accounting for taste |
| 08:30.15 | TehKewl1 | Kopete crashes on me too much |
| 08:30.20 | purplepenguins | I couldn't get used to the weird UI |
| 08:30.28 | TehKewl1 | and I like xchat too |
| 08:30.28 | smileaf | purplepenguins: exactly I hated gaim's UI. |
| 08:30.35 | TehKewl1 | the scripting support is better |
| 08:30.40 | purplepenguins | I love gaim's UI |
| 08:30.50 | smileaf | its nice and all... but kopetes is just.. better IMO. |
| 08:30.53 | TehKewl1 | but with gtk-engines-qt it's aight |
| 08:30.56 | purplepenguins | I didn't have much of a reason to switch except that it kept crashing for a while |
| 08:31.16 | purplepenguins | not recently though |
| 08:31.18 | smileaf | not crashed at all here. |
| 08:31.32 | purplepenguins | I love konqueror as a filebrowser but I can't stand it for web-browsing |
| 08:31.38 | smileaf | when I made the switch tho.. oh yah.. very unstable. lol |
| 08:32.01 | purplepenguins | I tried kopete back when it was pretty new and unstable, then again recently |
| 08:32.06 | purplepenguins | it has improved a lot |
| 08:32.09 | smileaf | 0.6.0 or around there was when I started with it. |
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| 08:32.46 | purplepenguins | is there an official kde video player? |
| 08:32.54 | smileaf | noatun |
| 08:32.56 | purplepenguins | I've used vlc since before I switched to Linux |
| 08:33.11 | purplepenguins | tried mplayer, and that was nice but I didn't like the gui |
| 08:33.11 | smileaf | (IMO worst one out there) |
| 08:33.38 | smileaf | I use mplayer with no gui and kaffeine (for DVDs) |
| 08:33.49 | purplepenguins | amarok is, imho, the best kde app |
| 08:34.26 | purplepenguins | I never found a music player I liked nearly as much |
| 08:35.15 | redtricycle | When I hit F4 in Konqueror to open a konsole window |
| 08:35.23 | redtricycle | how do I make it send "konsole --ls" instead of a regular konsole? |
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| 09:23.46 | eilker | !ops |
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| 09:24.02 | eilker | !op |
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| 09:24.15 | eilker | noone here ??? |
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| 09:24.34 | eilker | @op |
| 09:24.40 | eilker | @ops |
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| 09:26.19 | purplepenguins | someone needs to tell him his client is sucking |
| 09:26.38 | Tm_T | ryanakca: ping |
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| 09:54.59 | ICQnumber | k3b says that there is no mp3 suppot enabled, but MAD packages are installed |
| 09:55.27 | ICQnumber | and i can not find this package libmad on packman for opensuse |
| 09:57.50 | ICQnumber | or do i need to install mad and mad-devel packages instead? |
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| 10:00.24 | ICQnumber | i have k3b 1.0 installed |
| 10:02.07 | ICQnumber | all the time i start k3b i get a "system configuration problems" pop-up |
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| 10:28.39 | CarinArr | can anyone tell me if there is a simple way to just remove the kicker? |
| 10:29.03 | frerich | CarinArr: Click on the arrows on the sides of Kicker to move it away? |
| 10:29.23 | Jucato | make it hide automatically? |
| 10:29.43 | Jucato | or http://wiki.kde.org/tiki-index.php?page=Hidden%20configuration |
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| 11:00.12 | Caryindra | Hola |
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| 11:04.25 | chaks | hi all |
| 11:04.34 | chaks | how do i port Tango Icons to KDE > |
| 11:04.35 | chaks | ? |
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| 11:15.51 | annma | port? |
| 11:16.07 | annma | what do you mean with "port" chaks? |
| 11:16.22 | frerich | c'est l'annma! salut! |
| 11:16.32 | annma | lol hi frerich :) |
| 11:16.49 | chaks | i compiled and installed Tango icons from their website |
| 11:17.02 | chaks | but its not coming proper, many things , i dont see icons at all |
| 11:17.13 | chaks | and #tango, they told KDE is not Free Desktops compliant |
| 11:17.16 | chaks | ?? |
| 11:17.34 | annma | they will install nicely in kde4 |
| 11:17.43 | annma | kde4 is tango compliant |
| 11:17.55 | annma | kde3 is out for a long time, before tango |
| 11:18.18 | chaks | well, kde 3.5.6 :) |
| 11:18.18 | annma | so KDE3 is another story but we try to be as freedesktop compliant as possible |
| 11:18.24 | chaks | oh |
| 11:18.26 | ryanakca | Tm_T: pong |
| 11:18.35 | annma | we do not include new features in kde 3.5.x |
| 11:18.39 | chaks | as of now, grabbed this - http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/BC+Tango+KDE?content=50036 |
| 11:18.50 | Jucato | hi annma! :) |
| 11:18.52 | annma | kde3.5.0 is out for a long time |
| 11:18.54 | annma | hi Jucato |
| 11:19.17 | annma | chaks: and if in #tango they speak badly of kde then they are not nice |
| 11:19.44 | chaks | they didnt speak bad |
| 11:19.50 | chaks | they said what you said :) |
| 11:20.03 | annma | KDE has supported FreeDesktop standards from the beginning |
| 11:20.25 | ryanakca | Tm_T: hmm... I was sleeping... konversation... rrrg |
| 11:20.35 | annma | chaks: but do you understand? |
| 11:21.00 | chaks | no :( |
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| 11:21.34 | annma | the kde-look tango does not work? |
| 11:21.49 | annma | if it is on kde-look it is supposed to work |
| 11:22.00 | Jucato | it needs some extra tweaking iirc |
| 11:22.01 | Agiofws | i have an icon on my desktop with the root partition mounted how do i delete that from my desktop ? |
| 11:22.18 | chaks | the link which i gace works |
| 11:22.32 | annma | chaks: so what is the problem? |
| 11:22.35 | chaks | let me download them and check - actual tango from kde-look |
| 11:22.48 | chaks | its not actual tango, its BC + Tango |
| 11:22.50 | chaks | :) |
| 11:23.02 | annma | actual is for kde4 |
| 11:23.13 | chaks | what about this then - http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/Tango?content=32288 |
| 11:23.14 | chaks | ?? |
| 11:23.19 | Agiofws | hey how do i edit the mount icons in kde desktop ? |
| 11:23.34 | chaks | ah...i see this - "This is not your standard icon set. Some effort is required." |
| 11:23.46 | Agiofws | or preferably why does the / partition show up as mouned on the kde desktop ? |
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| 11:25.06 | Agiofws | hey how do i tell kde NOT TO show my / partition as mounted DUH.... on the desktop ? |
| 11:27.08 | Agiofws | hey how do i tell kde NOT TO show my / partition as mounted DUH.... on the desktop ? |
| 11:27.29 | annma | there's an option not to show devices icons |
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| 11:35.30 | lostson | is there a way to get the border around the inside of konsole to completely disappear |
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| 11:42.29 | yngwin | i'd like to know that as well |
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| 11:51.00 | lostson | yngwin: yeah i like using irssi and getting rid of that border would make it look alot better |
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| 11:57.29 | row_ | Hey, I have a problem with KMail and pgp, it can send and receive encrypted mail fine, but it can't read mail it sent, what is with that, it reports openpgp said "Error: Bad passphrase"? |
| 11:57.33 | row_ | any idea what is wrong? |
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| 12:02.17 | lostson | do you have gpg setup right ? |
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| 12:04.46 | row_ | lostson: I can send and receive PGP email fine, read it even, just can't read what I have sent in kmail, readable and encrypted on icedove (thunderbird) on a windows machine. |
| 12:04.49 | VSpike | row_: http://zerlinna.blogweb.de/archives/61-Get-GPG-Decryption-working-within-Kmail.html |
| 12:04.57 | VSpike | That worked for me |
| 12:05.06 | row_ | cheers VSpike will take a look |
| 12:05.10 | VSpike | no prob |
| 12:05.17 | row_ | it sucks not being able to read your own sent mail :P |
| 12:05.22 | VSpike | Yeah :/ |
| 12:05.34 | lostson | row: sounds like you dont have the kmail gpg setup correctly it should ask you for the passphrase when receiving encrypted email |
| 12:06.04 | VSpike | I still have the same problem because the key I used to encrypt I made some time ago and havent used since, and now I can't remember my passphrase :) But at least it asks for one now.. |
| 12:06.19 | lostson | row: check kmail --> settings --> security --> crypto backends make sure OpenPGP is checked |
| 12:06.40 | row_ | lostson: it is. |
| 12:07.07 | row_ | its wrokign now |
| 12:07.07 | lostson | row: can you use kgpg to view your key |
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| 12:07.12 | row_ | did not ask for passphrase before now it is |
| 12:07.16 | row_ | how odd |
| 12:07.46 | VSpike | I had OpenPGP checked there, but I still had to follow the instructions on the link above |
| 12:07.47 | lostson | hmm that is weird |
| 12:08.02 | row_ | ah no |
| 12:08.07 | row_ | it stilk can't read sent mail. |
| 12:08.14 | row_ | reads mail its sent fine though |
| 12:08.16 | row_ | god damit |
| 12:08.23 | row_ | still* |
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| 12:08.31 | lostson | mail that is in your sent folder ? |
| 12:08.34 | row_ | yes |
| 12:08.52 | lostson | let me try it here once never tried to read it from the sent folder |
| 12:09.13 | VSpike | row_: Did you try the procedure at that link? |
| 12:09.22 | row_ | I am about too VSpike |
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| 12:09.24 | VSpike | OK |
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| 12:09.46 | lostson | row: works here |
| 12:10.00 | wedgeV | konsole sometimes doesnt scroll down with the output of a command, anyone know how to fix this? |
| 12:10.05 | lostson | row: it asked me for my passphrase and opened the email |
| 12:10.57 | row_ | lostson: how odd, let me restart kontact |
| 12:11.04 | VSpike | lostson: perhaps you already have the gnupg-agent configured for some other reason |
| 12:11.33 | lostson | VSpike: could well be i know it works well for me |
| 12:12.18 | VSpike | Perhaps one of you guys know.. I've not really used encryption much before. When you want to send encrypted mail to a contact, is there any way to get kmail to try and fetch the key automatically? |
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| 12:14.41 | row_ | I don't even have a /home/username/.gnupg/gpg.conf file |
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| 12:14.53 | lostson | VSpike: i think there is a option in kmail for that |
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| 12:15.00 | row_ | dir is there with normal contents just no gpg.conf |
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| 12:15.51 | row_ | lostson: can you confirm you have a ~/.gnupg/gpg.conf file? |
| 12:15.59 | lostson | row: i do |
| 12:16.48 | row_ | whats your user-agent in it? |
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| 12:17.51 | row_ | gpg-agent? |
| 12:17.58 | lostson | yes |
| 12:18.19 | row_ | so "user-agent: gpg-agent" is the whole line? |
| 12:18.43 | lostson | yeah |
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| 12:18.54 | row_ | cool, will try that. |
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| 12:23.07 | row_ | nah kgpg says thats a invalid option :/ |
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| 12:25.41 | row_ | ah option in kgpg to use gpg agent think that might do it :) |
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| 12:27.06 | fuffe | is there any distros with the third beta of KDE4 pre installed? |
| 12:27.36 | annma | there is no beta yet fuffe |
| 12:27.47 | annma | it's only packages for developers |
| 12:27.55 | annma | it's not even alpha |
| 12:28.04 | fuffe | 3.80.3 |
| 12:28.21 | annma | yes, that's not a beta |
| 12:28.26 | annma | nor an alpha |
| 12:28.39 | annma | you can find packages for some distros |
| 12:28.49 | Jucato | but not for users |
| 12:28.50 | annma | BUT it is not something that "works" |
| 12:29.09 | annma | it is not for users as said Jucato and as I said previously |
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| 12:29.25 | fuffe | exactly, that why I want it on a liveCD |
| 12:29.31 | annma | lol |
| 12:29.39 | Jucato | it's not something worth putting on a Live CD |
| 12:29.47 | annma | well I don't see how you would have it working on a live cd |
| 12:29.55 | Jucato | actually, it defeats the purpose of the "release" in the first place |
| 12:29.56 | annma | as there's no desktop as such |
| 12:30.19 | annma | fuffe: either you want to develop for kde4 or you have to wait |
| 12:31.24 | annma | how's life Jucato? |
| 12:31.44 | Jucato | annma: oh it's still life... and still in first life :D |
| 12:31.47 | lostson | yeah probably not worth much to dev anything for kde 3 anymore |
| 12:31.51 | fuffe | annma, just want to see if KDE4 is worth to consider in the future.. and I didn't mean putting kde4 on a live CD, but a distro with kde4 |
| 12:32.15 | annma | fuffe: you cannot "see" at the moment if kde4 is worth considering |
| 12:32.23 | annma | it's FAR from being finished |
| 12:32.24 | Jucato | fuffe: at this point, it's not worth considering yet |
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| 12:32.37 | fuffe | 90% done, right? |
| 12:32.43 | Jucato | not even |
| 12:32.44 | lostson | fuffe: hit aseigo's blog he has alot on there about kde4 |
| 12:32.55 | annma | if you see your house being built with walls half done you will say: "I don't want it?" |
| 12:33.04 | annma | fuffe: LOL |
| 12:33.07 | fuffe | would be released in this summer |
| 12:33.08 | annma | 90%!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 12:33.11 | annma | NO |
| 12:33.15 | Jucato | ~kde4 |
| 12:33.21 | apt | The next major revision of KDE -- KDE 4.0 -- will be released when it's ready, not before. We don't know when that will be, despite articles saying the contrary. It will likely be in 2007 or 2008. |
| 12:33.44 | annma | fuffe: if you see your house being built with walls half done you will say: "I don't want it?" |
| 12:33.56 | annma | just because you can only see half of it? |
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| 12:34.15 | annma | considere KDE4 as a half built house |
| 12:34.19 | fuffe | annma, ok, I see.. thought it would soon be ready for a release |
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| 12:34.24 | annma | foundations are rock solid |
| 12:34.33 | lostson | what worried me about one of the posts was that kde 4 would be released but not all the features would be there |
| 12:34.35 | annma | but the rest needs work |
| 12:34.41 | Jucato | fuffe: I recommend checking http://dot.kde.org for KDE 4 news. that way, you'll be informed of real stuff like target dates (if there are any) |
| 12:34.49 | Jucato | lostson: what posts? where? |
| 12:35.04 | annma | lostson: please wait and see and after kde4 is released start to be negative, not before |
| 12:35.07 | lostson | i believe that one was one of aseigo;s posts |
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| 12:35.25 | lostson | annma: not being negative just stating what i read |
| 12:35.38 | Jucato | take everything you read w/ a grain of salt though |
| 12:35.57 | Jucato | but yeah, basically don't expect everything planned for KDE 4 will be in KDE 4.0 |
| 12:36.02 | Jucato | KDE 4 != KDE 4.0 |
| 12:36.17 | lostson | yeah thats exactly true |
| 12:37.19 | Jucato | KDE 4 covers the whole lifetime of the KDE 4 release, whether that extends to KDE 4.18 or not :D |
| 12:37.32 | lostson | yes that was pointed out in his blog how things will be added as point releases come out |
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| 12:38.41 | Jucato | annma: how about you? how's life? |
| 12:40.58 | metalfan | somehow konqeuror downloads .rar files to /tmp/kde-myuser/blabla.rar and asks me after the download witht which app i would like to open the file? |
| 12:41.35 | metalfan | shouldnt konqueror ask before downloading where to save and then do nothing? |
| 12:45.44 | annma | Jucato: life is busy but good |
| 12:46.16 | Jucato | kool. :D |
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| 12:46.27 | Jucato | hopefully I'll be getting a laptop next week. yay!!! |
| 12:46.47 | annma | Jucato: yes? wooooooow |
| 12:47.17 | annma | lol |
| 12:48.30 | Jucato | argh!! the arrival of the laptop just got extended :( |
| 12:48.35 | Jucato | probably during the weekend... :( |
| 12:49.10 | annma | oh |
| 12:49.29 | Jucato | it's my sister's actually... |
| 12:49.47 | Jucato | but at least now I get a stable machine to work on (laptop), and another to play with (desktop) |
| 12:50.05 | annma | yes |
| 12:50.36 | Jucato | add that to the fact that I just finished chapter 2 in my C++ book, and my future looks bright |
| 12:50.47 | Jucato | (now to wait for monzie's book... :D) |
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| 12:54.31 | lostson | Jucato: what c++ book you using |
| 12:54.34 | lostson | im on chapter 6 |
| 12:54.38 | Jucato | Deitel's |
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| 13:24.49 | nado | hi guys |
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| 13:25.26 | nado | i need a quick and simple way to resize and rename a bunch of picture files |
| 13:25.44 | nado | anybody got an idea what i should use? |
| 13:25.46 | Jucato | digikam, krename, etc? |
| 13:26.00 | nado | digikam? I'll try that, thanks |
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| 13:29.17 | nado | jucato, digikam isn't able to do what i want |
| 13:29.23 | tuxick | nado: convert |
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| 13:31.05 | nado | tuxick, what do you mean? |
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| 13:31.06 | Jucato | nado: Digikam -> Tools -> Batch Processes? |
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| 13:31.07 | nado | there's an empty list O.o |
| 13:31.11 | sredna | select something |
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| 13:31.23 | nado | i did |
| 13:31.28 | Jucato | ah might be kipi-plugins |
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| 13:31.59 | nado | ah well that could it be |
| 13:32.19 | Jucato | nado: install kipi-plugins |
| 13:32.29 | nado | yup i'm on it |
| 13:32.31 | tuxick | nado: that's the tool :) |
| 13:32.34 | Jucato | in that case, gwenview could do it as well... |
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| 13:32.59 | nado | alright, i suppose i'm gonna get along with that. thanks alot |
| 13:33.01 | nado | cye |
| 13:33.05 | nado | *cya |
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| 13:58.16 | Brazil4Linux | How to hide Konqueror status bar? |
| 13:58.24 | feklee | How do I prevent a KDE application from going into the background after it's started? |
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| 14:06.46 | feklee | Found the solution to my problem: --nofork |
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| 14:10.14 | deathplanter | could anybody remind me what's the name of this application in kde that enables "easy volume control"? |
| 14:10.23 | logixoul | kmix |
| 14:10.30 | deathplanter | damnit,i said wrong |
| 14:10.40 | deathplanter | i mean,from media keys on keyboard |
| 14:10.53 | logixoul | kmilo |
| 14:10.58 | deathplanter | oh,that's it |
| 14:11.00 | deathplanter | thanks ;D |
| 14:11.05 | logixoul | but it's not an application, it's a service |
| 14:11.05 | logixoul | np |
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| 14:16.22 | feklee | Where does one get a list of Jabber channels on kdetalk.net |
| 14:16.25 | feklee | ? |
| 14:16.44 | nikolavp | hello everybody |
| 14:16.50 | nikolavp | i have a strange issue :X |
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| 14:17.11 | nikolavp | i want to switch through my languages with a keyboard shortcut |
| 14:17.18 | annma | yes |
| 14:17.21 | nikolavp | i have two entries in kde center |
| 14:17.34 | nikolavp | and i set that setxkbmap -option grp:alt_shift_toggle |
| 14:17.38 | nikolavp | but no result :( |
| 14:17.57 | logixoul | I don't think that ever worked |
| 14:18.02 | annma | you set the shortcut in kcontrol |
| 14:18.10 | nikolavp | i was doing this with configuration from /etc/X11/xorg.conf but now i need the multimedia keys :( |
| 14:18.15 | annma | and alt shift doe snot work, no |
| 14:18.32 | nikolavp | so i just need another key combination right ? |
| 14:18.46 | logixoul | well, not really, there's a way to use alt+shift |
| 14:19.12 | logixoul | set alt (or shift) to be a "third level chooser" |
| 14:19.23 | logixoul | but then you won't be able to use it as a modifier |
| 14:19.42 | logixoul | alternatively, use something like xbindkeys |
| 14:20.20 | nikolavp | ok i will try that one :) |
| 14:20.47 | nikolavp | so what is this entry for Group shift made for ?:) |
| 14:20.56 | logixoul | no idea |
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| 14:21.51 | logixoul | feklee: try kopete's "Join Groupchat » Browse" |
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| 14:25.30 | FuZzy | which is the kde install prefix |
| 14:26.03 | FuZzy | which is the kde install prefix |
| 14:26.03 | FuZzy | i need to specify it tu install mountiso |
| 14:28.54 | nikolavp | FuzZy: ? |
| 14:28.57 | feklee | logixoul: I use Gajim. But thanks anyway. |
| 14:29.11 | FuzZy | i want to install mount iso and it says: |
| 14:29.18 | FuzZy | Couldn't find KDE install prefix! |
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| 14:29.24 | FuzZy | Type the full path here or press "Ctrl+C" to abort: |
| 14:29.30 | feklee | On xmpp:kde@conference.kdetalk.net there's no-one aside me. |
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| 14:30.08 | FuzZy | found it |
| 14:30.17 | FuzZy | it's /usr/kde |
| 14:30.30 | nikolavp | FuzZy: :) |
| 14:30.35 | nikolavp | 'kde-config --prefix' |
| 14:30.45 | nikolavp | `kde-config --prefix` * lol :D |
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| 14:31.55 | Tate | hi, i have problem with mouse scroll, os is PC-BSD, anyone can help? |
| 14:32.22 | Tate | mouse is MX1000 Laser |
| 14:32.41 | nikolavp | Tate: what you mean the scroll is not working ? |
| 14:33.02 | Tate | can't use mouse scroll to scroll pages |
| 14:33.04 | sredna | wow, kubuntu in fact does not install firefox pr default -- congrats konqui :0 |
| 14:33.22 | nikolavp | Tate: do you have a Zaxis entry in /etc/X11/xorg.conf :) |
| 14:33.33 | Tate | yes |
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| 14:34.44 | sredna | when i run my webbank in konqueror, it decides that 'my browser does not support session cookies' :o |
| 14:34.58 | Tate | checked that allredy, putting mouse buttons to 7 and scroll from 5 6 to 6 7 but, can't edit that, don't know the reason |
| 14:34.58 | nikolavp | Tate: the scroll is not working or you just cant scroll web pages |
| 14:35.08 | Tate | scroll is not working |
| 14:35.39 | nikolavp | Option "Buttons" "5" |
| 14:35.39 | nikolavp | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:35.39 | Tate | havent got it working in any application. i have some kind of scroll in my keyboard and it works |
| 14:35.43 | nikolavp | try putting that |
| 14:36.05 | Tate | how can i edit that? |
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| 14:36.22 | nikolavp | Tate: su -c 'vi /etc/X11/xorg.conf' |
| 14:36.37 | Tate | ok, thanks. |
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| 14:38.36 | Tate | why i can't write anything to that? |
| 14:39.15 | sredna | dont' use vi |
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| 14:39.49 | sredna | use nano, or even better, kdesu -c 'kwrite /etc/X11/xorg.conf' |
| 14:39.55 | Tate | ok |
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| 14:40.23 | sredna | vi makes you cry |
| 14:40.44 | dan2003 | My konq is crashing when it tries to genertae preview or get metadata from pdf files, is this a known bug or sumin weird on my system? I cannot find any mention of it at bugs.kde.org |
| 14:41.09 | sredna | dan2003: works fine here |
| 14:41.17 | sredna | nikolavp: 8D |
| 14:41.26 | dan2003 | sredna: you using 3.5.6 ? |
| 14:41.34 | nikolavp | dan2003: heard about a problem with arts not installed that can cause problems on preview |
| 14:41.38 | nikolavp | but i think they fixed that |
| 14:41.41 | sredna | dan2003: it worked since kde 3 |
| 14:41.58 | dan2003 | nikolavp: hmm, i do not use arts, |
| 14:42.10 | dan2003 | i have built without arts support |
| 14:42.23 | nikolavp | dan2003: well i dont have arts either |
| 14:42.28 | nikolavp | but i have a read an article about it |
| 14:42.30 | nikolavp | Gentoo ? |
| 14:42.34 | dan2003 | yes |
| 14:42.49 | sredna | use default USE flags |
| 14:42.55 | nikolavp | http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-489385-highlight-kde+sound+ksplay.html |
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| 14:42.58 | sredna | >;) |
| 14:42.59 | nikolavp | have a look at that |
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| 14:43.18 | nikolavp | the guy is saying that he had problems with that |
| 14:43.22 | nikolavp | i dont have any but :) |
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| 14:43.56 | HostilePenguin | how to set up 2 computers to play sound of the third pc containting the sound card can i use arts? |
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| 14:44.51 | nikolavp | HostilePenguin: u mean two clients *without* a sound card ?:) |
| 14:44.57 | HostilePenguin | yes |
| 14:45.05 | nikolavp | well this is simple as far as i know |
| 14:45.17 | nikolavp | u should give access to the computer with something |
| 14:45.21 | nikolavp | try xhost ;) |
| 14:45.40 | Tate | buttons 5, scroll 4 5, not working, buttons 7, scroll 6 7 not wirking =/ |
| 14:45.45 | nikolavp | man xhost then type app DISPLA="ip:0" if it is the first display :D |
| 14:46.01 | nikolavp | Tate: the important is the Zaxis entry :) |
| 14:46.11 | nikolavp | Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" |
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| 14:47.51 | Tate | yes, that was not working |
| 14:48.28 | nikolavp | well it seems that your scroll is not working :) |
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| 14:49.25 | Tate | =( |
| 14:49.25 | HostilePenguin | alright |
| 14:49.47 | Tate | perhaps i buy ergonomic keyboard ans n00b thumb mouse =) |
| 14:50.14 | nikolavp | HostilePenguin: if you dont want to type so much u can even make an alias for the mplayer :) |
| 14:50.32 | nikolavp | Tate: i have them both ;X |
| 14:50.48 | nikolavp | i think that the mouse keyboard and the monitor are more important than the computer :P |
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| 14:54.23 | Tate | yay? |
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| 14:54.34 | Tate | tell me, is it as good as it looks like? |
| 14:54.46 | chronos | how I can access konqueor file browser via kde menu? |
| 14:55.27 | Lanken | system > konqueror fs browser |
| 14:56.06 | Lanken | or internet > konqueror web browser (and enter a local address, like /home/user/Desktop |
| 14:56.27 | wickedfiddle | hi. could someone remind me where in the control center i set the option to allow windows to be dragged from one desktop to another? thanks. |
| 14:56.56 | Jucato | wickedfiddle: kcontrol -> desktop -> window behavior -> advanced tab |
| 14:57.10 | wickedfiddle | Jucato: thanks |
| 14:57.26 | chronos | Lanken: I want to put a shortcut for konqueror on my panel |
| 14:57.37 | chronos | but only for konqueror fs browser |
| 14:57.56 | wickedfiddle | ah. active desktop borders |
| 14:58.14 | Lanken | right-click the kmenu button and look for the konqueror fs browser entry under system. |
| 14:58.29 | Lanken | (chronos ^): note the "command" |
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| 14:58.42 | Lanken | no, never mind. |
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| 14:59.24 | Lanken | rightclick an empty spot on the panel and click "add application to panel > system > konqueror filesystem browser" |
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| 15:04.55 | nikolavp | Tate: what you mean :) |
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| 15:15.11 | Tate | nikolavp: meaning is it worth of getting? |
| 15:16.08 | nikolavp | Tate: i prefer using xfce or some wm but sitting on a nice "environment" |
| 15:16.25 | nikolavp | and yes i think it is worth of getting :d |
| 15:16.36 | nikolavp | since i use my computer mostly for work :P |
| 15:16.43 | Tate | ok, i check how much those costs here =) |
| 15:16.51 | nikolavp | but even for a gamer it is better to have a nice mouse :D |
| 15:17.02 | Tate | yeh, this pc for internet, irc, stuff like that... i have other pc for gaming |
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| 15:18.06 | nikolavp | well i use kde only cause it is configureable :P |
| 15:19.34 | Tate | =) |
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| 15:20.01 | Tate | drop a hint, what kind of thumb mouse shoud i get, MS, Logitech? |
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| 15:20.33 | Lanken | is a thumb mouse the same as a trackball? |
| 15:20.41 | Tate | yes |
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| 15:20.55 | Lanken | then you shouldn't get any :P |
| 15:21.06 | Tate | hah |
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| 15:21.50 | Lanken | unless you're really convinced that you like them. I have some friends who use them and they're just painfully un-coordinated, compared me with a medium-sensitivity mouse |
| 15:22.05 | Lanken | :\ some people swear by them. |
| 15:22.13 | Tate | yes |
| 15:22.16 | Tate | i know that |
| 15:23.32 | nikolavp | Tate: a no cable mouse is enough for me |
| 15:23.37 | nikolavp | but i have a strange desk :P |
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| 15:23.58 | nikolavp | dont take any 5-6 buttons mouse cause they *suck* |
| 15:24.03 | logixoul | oh? |
| 15:24.09 | logixoul | I was thinking of getting one |
| 15:24.11 | gdiebel | kmplayer is kinda |
| 15:24.26 | nikolavp | logixoul: havent heard good stuffs from those :d |
| 15:24.30 | nikolavp | for |
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| 15:24.36 | logixoul | okay |
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| 15:25.10 | nikolavp | they say that when u move it the mouse is snapping(clicking) |
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| 15:25.24 | logixoul | aha |
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| 15:26.06 | logixoul | did they mention where they got the mouses from? |
| 15:26.57 | nikolavp | i think from the near store |
| 15:27.12 | nikolavp | most of my friends would not give more than 40$ for a mouse :P |
| 15:27.20 | nikolavp | 6-7 buttons MS mouse :P |
| 15:27.42 | nikolavp | make your conclusions :P |
| 15:27.52 | logixoul | aha, neither would I ;) |
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| 15:38.24 | Alethes | where are the katepart profiles kept? |
| 15:38.51 | logixoul | you mean the schemes? |
| 15:38.58 | sredna | what profiles? |
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| 15:39.26 | Alethes | schemas I mean |
| 15:40.22 | sredna | Alethes: you don't want to edit those manually, use the GUI |
| 15:40.32 | Alethes | you're right I don't want to edit them manually |
| 15:40.36 | Alethes | I want to know where they're stored |
| 15:40.39 | sredna | but they are kept in kates data directory |
| 15:40.44 | Alethes | ok thanks |
| 15:40.57 | logixoul | um are they? |
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| 15:41.38 | Alethes | I'm trying to find the kdevelop schema |
| 15:42.17 | Alethes | which you'd think would be in my user dir under ~/.kde/share/apps or config |
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| 15:42.36 | Alethes | actually found it |
| 15:42.40 | logixoul | ah where? |
| 15:42.51 | Tate | nikolavp: is Logitech Cordless TrackMan Wheel good one? |
| 15:42.52 | Alethes | ~/.kde/share/config/kateschemarc |
| 15:42.58 | Alethes | they're all stored in the same file |
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| 15:43.13 | nikolavp | Tate: it should be good for you |
| 15:43.19 | nikolavp | noone can tell that to you :P |
| 15:43.29 | Alethes | I actually the settings for indentation and whether to clean up extra whitespace and all that stuff |
| 15:43.34 | nikolavp | everyone should be comfortable with his mouse :P |
| 15:43.36 | Tate | ok... pitty there is no shop near by where i can try those |
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| 15:43.43 | Alethes | my dev team is trying to determine a standard for all of us |
| 15:44.30 | LeewardRail | anyone have an idea on why Konq would crash when opening a partition/directory but Konsole will let you move around in it without a problem ? Partition shows as clean on boot btw |
| 15:44.32 | row_ | Does Kate have a tool to clean up indentation like Scite does? |
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| 15:44.50 | row_ | turn it into tabs, as code folding does not seem to work with messed up dreamweaver code |
| 15:45.11 | Alethes | row_: kdevelop does |
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| 15:45.23 | row_ | Alethes: cool |
| 15:45.33 | logixoul | LeewardRail: see if the backtrace you get has already been reported in bugs.kde.org |
| 15:45.34 | row_ | might be cause its a .asp file, even worse than dreamweaver :P |
| 15:45.41 | nikolavp | i never found how to change the highlighting in kdevelop :P |
| 15:45.42 | row_ | as the asp parts are foldable |
| 15:45.49 | nikolavp | i would like to use that from emacs :d |
| 15:45.57 | LeewardRail | logixoul: thanks |
| 15:46.08 | nikolavp | and the inovative tabs from there :P |
| 15:46.10 | row_ | is kdevelop a editor or just some tools, I like kde too much to move :) |
| 15:46.37 | nikolavp | row_ kdeveloper is a IDE in KDE :P |
| 15:46.47 | nikolavp | i find it the best for me :P |
| 15:47.00 | logixoul | LeewardRail: np |
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| 15:47.31 | LeewardRail | logixoul: hmm seems the 1st time it just crashes without any error splash.. after that it just hangs... |
| 15:47.32 | row_ | I hate dreamweavers dirty indentation might as well have none :/ |
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| 15:47.52 | LeewardRail | logixoul: would it dump an error anyhow ? |
| 15:48.08 | LeewardRail | logixoul: in /var/log or something |
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| 15:50.50 | logixoul | I don't think so |
| 15:51.43 | nikolavp | row_: i think dreamweaver is nice |
| 15:51.50 | LeewardRail | hmmm. I still think that the FS is porked... I'll try a different tool to scan the partition. That partition was acting up before... |
| 15:52.00 | row_ | I hate dreamweaver |
| 15:52.07 | row_ | or more to the point, how its used |
| 15:52.10 | nikolavp | and i am sad there is nothing that can make all of those things in one app in Linux :P |
| 15:52.19 | row_ | its a alright editor if use mostly in code view |
| 15:52.24 | nikolavp | but i would *not* pay that much for something :D |
| 15:52.51 | nikolavp | well that's what i think people use it |
| 15:52.58 | nikolavp | for |
| 15:53.02 | row_ | I have never used dreamweaver apart from to "decrypt" dreamweaver tables |
| 15:53.20 | row_ | nikolavp: no lots use it in pure design mode |
| 15:53.30 | row_ | and hence have no idea of how html/css is meant to work |
| 15:53.38 | nikolavp | well :) |
| 15:54.01 | nikolavp | btw do u know an application that can translate my code in live as i am writing it |
| 15:54.08 | nikolavp | for example a simple xhtml doc and css |
| 15:54.19 | logixoul | "translate" as in indent? |
| 15:54.24 | nikolavp | and when i edit it it display the changes :P |
| 15:54.45 | nikolavp | i dont know how to examplain i more speicifc :D |
| 15:54.46 | row_ | you mean a design view like dreamweaver? |
| 15:54.49 | nikolavp | y |
| 15:54.56 | hatta | http://www.lecb.ncifcrf.gov/~toms/atchange.html |
| 15:54.57 | nikolavp | splited screen in the one side i have my code |
| 15:54.59 | hatta | just use that and firefox |
| 15:55.01 | row_ | er I would think a script would easily do that |
| 15:55.02 | nikolavp | and on the other the displayed :P |
| 15:55.10 | row_ | when a file changes refresh browser |
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| 15:55.46 | hatta | atchange is what youw ant |
| 15:56.33 | logixoul | if atchange works for you, you'll like the autorefresh fx extension |
| 15:56.48 | logixoul | I *think* there's something similar for Konq too. |
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| 15:58.01 | anisfarhana | j #ipcop |
| 15:59.00 | anisfarhana | sorry :S |
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| 15:59.57 | anisfarhana | off topic : can we assign subittle on any movie ? |
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| 16:03.06 | yacoob | Hi there. |
| 16:03.11 | yacoob | I made myself a script, in /usr/local/bin. How can I assign an icon to it? |
| 16:03.46 | logixoul | do you want to put the icon in a specific place - e.g. the desktop - or just associate it with an icon? |
| 16:04.31 | logixoul | anisfarhana: in kaffeine, you can |
| 16:04.41 | logixoul | anisfarhana: though it's forgotten when you close the player |
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| 16:05.14 | yacoob | logixoul, the latter, for starters |
| 16:05.21 | anisfarhana | logixoul: so i can create subtittle on kaffeine ? |
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| 16:06.07 | logixoul | anisfarhana: no, to create subtitles use kechosub |
| 16:06.31 | logixoul | kaffeine is just a media player/ripper |
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| 16:07.09 | anisfarhana | After that You only operate with Enter and alt-p (to pause) to enter the subtitle for the current video position |
| 16:07.29 | anisfarhana | i need to do the input ? not from voice recognisition ? |
| 16:07.39 | eisen_ | I have this odd rendering issue in konqueror when browsing. Sometimes rendering lags behind seconds or minutes drawing only black boxes does not update when scrolling. |
| 16:08.04 | logixoul | eisen_: screenshot? |
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| 16:08.23 | logixoul | anisfarhana: not voice recognition outside of what KDE generally provides |
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| 16:08.38 | logixoul | s/not/no/ |
| 16:08.43 | eisen_ | I'll scroll a bit to see if it shows up again, then I'll make a screenshot |
| 16:08.59 | anisfarhana | logixoul: do u know any apps for subtitle which is not from kde ? |
| 16:09.14 | logixoul | anisfarhana: for creating subtitles? nope. |
| 16:09.29 | anisfarhana | :S |
| 16:09.41 | logixoul | you don't like KDE apps? |
| 16:10.34 | yacoob | logixoul, so, any hints? :) |
| 16:10.34 | anisfarhana | if i don't like KDE apps , do u think im going to stay with kde about 2 yrs ago ? |
| 16:11.20 | logixoul | anisfarhana: that's what I was wondering about, since you asked for an app which is "not from kde" ;) |
| 16:11.43 | logixoul | yacoob: I think you need to create a something.desktop file about it and put it somewhere KDE can find it |
| 16:11.46 | eisen_ | this is how it looks like: http://www.merour.de/konqueror_rendering.png |
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| 16:12.06 | anisfarhana | logixoul: i wonder if there any other apps for creating subtitle not from kde |
| 16:12.44 | logixoul | yacoob: easy way: use the "add icon to desktop" guy, then move the resulting .desktop file over |
| 16:12.44 | yacoob | that's a start. |
| 16:12.47 | logixoul | oops haha |
| 16:12.50 | logixoul | I mean GUI |
| 16:13.25 | eisen_ | the odd thing is that it usually repairs the rendering after a while |
| 16:13.38 | eisen_ | and konqueror is the only app that shows such behaviour |
| 16:13.43 | lnxnt__ | Hello |
| 16:13.54 | logixoul | eisen_: never happened to me but it looks like a videodriver problem - or maybe you're using beryl? |
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| 16:14.04 | logixoul | eisen_: also check for related reports in bugs.kde.org |
| 16:14.14 | lnxnt__ | I use kdm - my .bash_profile isn't executed - what can be the problem? |
| 16:14.16 | eisen_ | no, I'm using the closed nvidia driver though |
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| 16:14.26 | eisen_ | but nothing fancy activated |
| 16:14.47 | eisen_ | and it started with 3.5.3 I believe |
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| 16:14.57 | logixoul | lnxnt__: shouldn't that be .bashrc ? |
| 16:15.04 | lnxnt__ | logixoul: no |
| 16:15.08 | eisen_ | but I'll check the bugreports and will try with the open source driver |
| 16:15.08 | logixoul | ok |
| 16:15.12 | lnxnt__ | logixoul: or... |
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| 16:15.47 | eisen_ | the problem is hard to reproduce though. Works sometimes days without any probs. |
| 16:15.52 | lnxnt__ | logixoul: as far as I know, .bashrc is executed by .bash_profile by will. On login first .bash_profile is run. On each new shell, .bashrc is run |
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| 16:16.15 | logixoul | lnxnt__: dunno then |
| 16:16.29 | eisen_ | kdm does not run .bashrc |
| 16:16.37 | lnxnt__ | eisen_: ok. What can I do |
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| 16:16.48 | logixoul | ~enter |
| 16:16.49 | apt | The enter key or return key is not a substitute for punctuation. Use a period '.', comma ',', colon ':', semi-colon ';' emdash '--', or ellipsis '...' instead. |
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| 16:17.05 | yacoob | to be precise: I want to hook the script I've written to kclipper action menu. It's not a problem to do it, but I want the entry to have an icon. |
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| 16:17.34 | eisen_ | lnxnt__: put it in autostart |
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| 16:18.01 | nikolavp | lol i just found what i need :D |
| 16:18.06 | lnxnt__ | eisen_: autostart? |
| 16:18.15 | logixoul | apt: no, enter is <reply>the enter key is not a substitute for punctuation. Use a period '.', exclamation mark '!', question mark '?', comma ',', colon ':', semi-colon ';' emdash '--', or ellipsis '...' instead. |
| 16:18.16 | apt | okay, logixoul |
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| 16:18.51 | eisen_ | lnxnt__: ~/.kde/Autostart |
| 16:18.51 | aimee | hi victor |
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| 16:19.12 | logixoul | apt: tell lnxnt__ about autostart |
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| 16:20.06 | lnxnt__ | eisen_: ok. But this is bad. I want .bash_profile being executed |
| 16:20.39 | eisen_ | lnxnt__: make a symlink to .bash_profile there then |
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| 16:21.11 | lnxnt__ | eisen_: symlinks are not executables |
| 16:21.54 | eisen_ | oh, I see, bash_profile is not executable |
| 16:22.15 | eisen_ | well you can make a one liner script with source ~/.bash_profile |
| 16:22.29 | eisen_ | err, 2 lines with the shabang |
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| 16:23.10 | eisen_ | the .bash* files are only run by bash when invoked as a login shell, hence the name |
| 16:23.57 | lnxnt__ | eisen_: so, if I type "su loginname" it should be executed |
| 16:24.32 | eisen_ | lnxnt__: hm |
| 16:24.43 | eisen_ | wouldn't it ask for a password? |
| 16:25.11 | eisen_ | also why would you want to change the user context while loading the session? |
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| 16:25.40 | lnxnt__ | eisen_: yes, it askes for password,but still .bash_profile is not executed |
| 16:25.50 | Lanken | how do I call up the collection definition library in amarok? |
| 16:26.11 | lnxnt__ | eisen_: after login in a seperate bash terminal |
| 16:26.13 | lnxnt__ | hmm.... |
| 16:26.31 | KRF | is it possible to save .po files as .mo files within kedit? |
| 16:27.09 | eisen_ | lnxnt__: so you want to spawn a bash on another vt then? |
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| 16:28.26 | yacoob | Argh. |
| 16:28.44 | bxnp | guys, i want to have korganizer in systray i checked the box when i made the icon for my desktop but its not showing up |
| 16:28.59 | yacoob | 1/ open konsole 2/ less somefile 3/ quit |
| 16:29.07 | bxnp | the deamon is there, for the reminder thing but not korganizer it self |
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| 16:29.23 | yacoob | how can I make terminal NOT clear screen to previous content, but leave the output of less as it was? |
| 16:29.25 | Jucato | bxnp: that's the korganizer systray icon |
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| 16:30.07 | bxnp | but when i click on that it will not open korganizer |
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| 16:30.30 | Jucato | hm... it should |
| 16:30.38 | bxnp | how can i debug it |
| 16:30.43 | Jucato | it does here... |
| 16:31.05 | bxnp | yes i see that its trying to open, in the taskbar but noting show up |
| 16:31.40 | eisen_ | yacoob: you want the konsole window stay open after exectuion? |
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| 16:31.49 | Jucato | bxnp: hm.. if you're using KDE 3.5.5, I think that's a bug |
| 16:32.00 | bxnp | lol yes i am indeed running 3.5.5 |
| 16:32.38 | lnxnt__ | eisen_: maybe it is best, I write this two liner script in Autostart |
| 16:32.39 | Jucato | if you are on Kubuntu Edgy, might be a good time to upgrade to 3.5.6 |
| 16:33.12 | eisen_ | lnxnt__: maybe. But I'm not sure I understood what you want to achieve though |
| 16:33.13 | lnxnt__ | eisen_: but I guess, kdm should have something to execute exactly the commands that are executed by the login shell parameteres |
| 16:33.18 | bxnp | how can i only upgrade the kde packages Jucato |
| 16:33.33 | Jucato | bxnp: are you on Edgy? |
| 16:33.34 | bxnp | cause i have a lot of other updates but dont want them to |
| 16:33.35 | yacoob | eisen_, no. It's rather a terminal behaviour. |
| 16:33.36 | bxnp | yes i am Jucato |
| 16:33.52 | Jucato | bxnp: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-356.php and #kubuntu |
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| 16:34.08 | yacoob | eisen_, when you view a file with less, upon quitting less, terminal is restored to look exactly as it was before launching less |
| 16:34.22 | eisen_ | yacoob: do you run it through a desktop link? |
| 16:34.27 | yacoob | nope |
| 16:34.40 | eisen_ | lnxnt__: be aware that if you set environment variables in that script they are only local to that bash session |
| 16:35.05 | bxnp | the updates to kde 3.5.6 are already there but allso a lot off other stuff like kernel and other things |
| 16:35.13 | eisen_ | yacoob: konsole -e less foo? |
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| 16:35.20 | yacoob | eisen_, found less option to do what I mean :) |
| 16:35.32 | eisen_ | ah, ok |
| 16:35.34 | yacoob | eisen_, compare 'less /etc/passwd' vs 'less -X /etc/passwd' |
| 16:35.36 | Jucato | bxnp: those are security updates and bug fixes. you don't want those? |
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| 16:35.50 | yacoob | funny thing is, with xterm I didn't need this option to have the second behaviour |
| 16:36.01 | eisen_ | ah, I see |
| 16:36.13 | bxnp | no, cause the last time i did the other updates i could not boot into my system anymore |
| 16:36.36 | eisen_ | yacoob: that behaviour may depend on $TERM variable |
| 16:37.01 | bxnp | i only want to upgrade kde |
| 16:37.06 | yacoob | eisen_, I bet it does, various init strings for various terminals :) |
| 16:37.12 | yacoob | hm, lemme fiddle with that. |
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| 16:37.51 | yacoob | weird. |
| 16:38.04 | yacoob | well, it must've been different terminal definition in my old system then :( |
| 16:38.37 | eisen_ | you could also use konsole --noclose -e cat foo |
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| 16:39.02 | lnxnt__ | eisen_: ok. never mind. I think it is some configuration of kdm |
| 16:39.05 | fannagoganna | hi, anyone know how to get beagle to index through kmail? |
| 16:39.10 | fannagoganna | i have kmail in mbox format |
| 16:40.15 | yacoob | aaaargh, the same thing is with vim... it *must* be a terminal setting... :D |
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| 16:53.56 | yacoob | Allright. Found the xterm option responsible for the behaviour I want. titleInhibit. Now, does konsole have this...? |
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| 16:56.21 | mirshafie | i've got some problems with the system tray in kde. kde seems to not remember which icons i've hidden over sessions, so i have to re-hide them every time i start kde. i save my sessions manually and i always log out cleanly. what can i do about it? |
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| 17:02.36 | mirshafie | o yea, i'm on sabayon 3.26 and kde 3.5.5 |
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| 17:24.57 | sebbar | hi, I just saw the updated ixygen folder icons, is there any particular reason for the change? I thought the old ones looked very good |
| 17:25.08 | sebbar | *oxygen |
| 17:25.13 | logixoul | link to diff pls? |
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| 17:28.41 | sebbar | hmm where can I find it? on the websvn log it just says "new folder design" http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/KDE/kdelibs/pics/oxygen/scalable/places/?view=log |
| 17:29.38 | Sho_ | http://websvn.kde.org/?view=rev&revision=643718 |
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| 17:31.18 | logixoul | Actually I like the new one better :) |
| 17:31.20 | Alethes | wonder why they made that hcange |
| 17:31.22 | Alethes | change |
| 17:31.25 | Alethes | I like the older one too |
| 17:31.54 | Alethes | hmm |
| 17:31.56 | Alethes | I dunno, I'm torn |
| 17:32.06 | logixoul | me too... the new one is pretty original |
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| 17:32.33 | logixoul | though it looks too cartoonish with the strong gradient |
| 17:34.30 | Alethes | after it's all done, it'll end up looking like crystal hehe |
| 17:34.39 | Alethes | then I'll be a sad sad man |
| 17:35.58 | Desintegr | one question : default size for toolbar icons will be 22x22 or 24x24 ? |
| 17:36.07 | logixoul | 24 I think |
| 17:36.36 | Desintegr | ok |
| 17:37.13 | aseigo | hopefully 32x32 ;) |
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| 17:37.41 | Sho_ | Desintegr: 22 |
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| 17:37.52 | Sho_ | (maybe 32, but if it's a 2* it's 22) |
| 17:38.03 | Desintegr | 32 is so big :) |
| 17:38.17 | Sho_ | Desintegr: Banking on hi-res monitors with 100+ dpi I guess |
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| 17:45.51 | Alethes | isn't the standard 96? |
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| 17:45.58 | Alethes | I mean, what most people use? |
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| 17:46.31 | Sho_ | Alethes: You're thinking about the software dpi value your font rasterizer is using in its calculations |
| 17:46.38 | Alethes | ah |
| 17:46.48 | Sho_ | Alethes: I was referring to the physical dpi of your monitor, i.e. the size of a dot and how many are in an inch |
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| 17:46.54 | Alethes | right |
| 17:47.09 | Sho_ | Alethes: And the physical dpi of screens is rising, i.e. 32px end up being smaller than they were |
| 17:47.17 | Alethes | gotcha |
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| 17:48.49 | CarinArr | could someone tell me where kde stores information of what applets i want running? |
| 17:48.53 | CarinArr | i'd like to access them directly instead of using the menu on the kicker |
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| 17:51.59 | zorglu_ | q. is there an kde apps to allow managing a blog without going thru the browser ? |
| 17:52.57 | Sho_ | zorglu_: KBlogger, but it's pretty minimal |
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| 17:53.04 | zorglu_ | ok thanks |
| 17:53.07 | lynxlynxlynx | ojla |
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| 17:56.18 | lynxlynxlynx | my elaborate konsole window crashed. Is there a way to shut down my current kde session without saving it? That when I'd restart kde, the previous session would be used and I'd get my konsole back. Is there any other hack that would save me the redoing of all the tabs and co? |
| 17:56.20 | feindbild | hi ^^ |
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| 17:58.28 | unksi | lynxlynxlynx: I have used ctrl+alt+backspace for that |
| 17:58.57 | lynxlynxlynx | nice, simple idea :) |
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| 18:01.07 | boubbin | how to make icons in "k-menu" smaller ? |
| 18:01.21 | lynxlynxlynx | it worked, thanks unksi |
| 18:01.24 | boubbin | when i open the k-menu its way too big.. :/ |
| 18:01.34 | lynxlynxlynx | there is a config option boubbin |
| 18:01.42 | boubbin | where ? |
| 18:01.46 | lynxlynxlynx | not sure how much is available through the menus |
| 18:02.03 | boubbin | dont care, where is the file ? |
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| 18:02.34 | boubbin | i searched it for a long time and came up with nothing. |
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| 18:03.10 | lynxlynxlynx | searching |
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| 18:05.01 | feindbild | does anybody know a howto for KDE-3.5.6+compiz? I can only find ones for gnome or requiring gnome-window-decorator ... |
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| 18:05.29 | lynxlynxlynx | try beryl, it has that dependency as optional |
| 18:06.28 | logixoul | boubbin: http://wiki.kde.org/tiki-index.php?page=Hidden+configuration |
| 18:06.42 | bxnp | anybody played with strigi yet |
| 18:07.44 | lynxlynxlynx | boubbin: try [DesktopIcons] Size in ~/.kde/share/config/kdeglobals |
| 18:07.57 | lynxlynxlynx | err, that doesn't make sense |
| 18:08.18 | lynxlynxlynx | bleah, I know I have it changed somewhere, mine are tiny |
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| 18:09.16 | logixoul | lynxlynxlynx: see the last link ;) |
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| 18:09.49 | logixoul | also, some distros e.g. freespire default to tiny |
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| 18:11.39 | lynxlynxlynx | kickerrc duh :) |
| 18:11.46 | logixoul | :) |
| 18:12.14 | boubbin | lynxlynxlynx: if i edit ~/.kde/share/config/kdeglobals i need to restart kde to actually see the changes ? |
| 18:12.29 | lynxlynxlynx | no, wrong file |
| 18:12.36 | lynxlynxlynx | check the link logixoul pasted |
| 18:12.44 | lynxlynxlynx | modify as wanted and |
| 18:12.50 | lynxlynxlynx | dcop kicker kicker restart |
| 18:12.57 | boubbin | oh my hilight fucked up |
| 18:13.07 | lynxlynxlynx | that should be plenty enough to see the changes |
| 18:13.11 | boubbin | k |
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| 18:14.31 | sebbar | is there a way to make cmake less verbose? |
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| 18:14.55 | boubbin | ooh, i love those small icons |
| 18:16.16 | lexs | is there a way to get any taskbar app flash? |
| 18:16.53 | logixoul | sebbar: if you're using the instructions from techbase, remove the VERBOSE=1 from .bashrc |
| 18:17.17 | logixoul | sebbar: but #kde-devel is for development questions |
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| 18:17.54 | sebbar | ok tnx logixoul |
| 18:18.19 | logixoul | np |
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| 18:19.18 | oneforall | hi with dbus dbus-qt3 etc they get built after kde and x ? |
| 18:19.37 | oneforall | err I mean after x and before kde |
| 18:20.36 | lynxlynxlynx | that depends on your distro/choice |
| 18:21.22 | lynxlynxlynx | but i'd speculate you need to have it enabled, so yeah |
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| 18:24.05 | Gokee2 | How do I run the wizerd thingy that should come up when you first start kde? I started kde with startx rebooted the computer after installing kdm and a new kernel and now the kde wizzerd thingy did not come up. I like using it for my basic config |
| 18:24.23 | Lanken | can I configure kopete to show only events that have to do with my contact, and omit events relating to myself? I don't need every window to display "you have been marked 'away'" "you have been marked 'offline'" over and over. |
| 18:24.30 | Lanken | kpersonalize |
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| 18:24.56 | Lanken | Gokee2: run kpersonalize from the run dialogue. |
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| 18:25.40 | Gokee2 | -bash: kpersonalize: command not found |
| 18:25.45 | r3set | hi, does anyone know the problem with gaim tray icon transparency? |
| 18:25.45 | Gokee2 | Ah the run thingy |
| 18:25.59 | r3set | i mean, kde doesn't show up it transparent on my 2006.1 gentoo system |
| 18:26.18 | Lanken | Gokee2: shoot, I must have remembered it wrong. |
| 18:26.33 | Gokee2 | kpersonalizer.. |
| 18:26.34 | Gokee2 | :) |
| 18:26.41 | Lanken | ah right. |
| 18:26.55 | Gokee2 | Thanks :) |
| 18:27.01 | Lanken | you can reach it through the gui too, but I can't remember how. |
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| 18:27.24 | Gokee2 | Lanken, I like this way better as I can do it through ssh and configure on my main screen |
| 18:27.33 | Lanken | r3set: did you install all of kdebase? |
| 18:28.10 | Lanken | (if you did emerge kde or emerge kdebase, you'll have all of kdebase) |
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| 18:28.53 | r3set | Lanken, emerge kdebase |
| 18:29.02 | r3set | so it's not everything i think |
| 18:29.09 | r3set | and i wouldn't like to do that ;) |
| 18:29.13 | Lanken | r3set: I think you should have transparency though. |
| 18:29.53 | Lanken | you've looked at kcontrol > desktop > window behavior > translucency? |
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| 18:30.14 | nathanW | hello? |
| 18:30.31 | Lanken | hi |
| 18:30.43 | nathanW | anyone here experienced with SL? |
| 18:30.56 | r3set | Lanken, i've got that transparency |
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| 18:31.04 | r3set | i mean transparency of gaim tray icon |
| 18:31.29 | Lanken | r3set: do you mean the icon or notifier bubble? |
| 18:31.35 | r3set | the icon |
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| 18:31.58 | Lanken | heh, you're working to get one little icon to be transparent? |
| 18:32.08 | r3set | :) |
| 18:32.24 | r3set | don't have to ;-) |
| 18:32.26 | Lanken | if your other icons are transparent it doesn't sound like a kde problem. |
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| 18:32.37 | nathanW | Anyong know why in the KDE configuration window, my max resolution is only 1024x768, when my monitor supports a higher resolution? |
| 18:32.59 | nathanW | im on the live DVD by the way |
| 18:33.17 | Lanken | nathanW: probably it's got to do with xorg.conf. Are you using an intel graphics card? |
| 18:33.31 | nathanW | no ATI |
| 18:33.44 | nathanW | Radeon X1300 Pro |
| 18:34.09 | JamesB192_ | nathanW: Try asking in the Xorg channel. |
| 18:34.16 | Lanken | open /etc/X11/xorg.conf in konqueror and look for the graphics card. |
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| 18:34.58 | nathanW | I dont see any Xorg channel, but ill try what Lanken said |
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| 18:35.39 | Lanken | to reach the xorg channel, do /join #xorg |
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| 18:36.43 | coolsmile | Hello! |
| 18:36.52 | shadok | hi, is there a plan to use beryl/compiz plugins in the future kwin (i do'nt know its name) |
| 18:37.16 | Sho_ | shadok: No |
| 18:37.18 | Lanken | shadok: I hope not -_- |
| 18:37.43 | Sho_ | shadok: kwin has its own effects API at this time |
| 18:38.17 | shadok | i hoped so, givent that it will have some 3d effects iirc that would save days of coding |
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| 18:38.24 | shadok | ah ok Sho_ :) |
| 18:38.31 | coolsmile | I got the following problem: I have an Samba-Filesystem home-directory (mounted at login time). KDE tryes to create symbolic and hard links in the home-directory. But smbfs doesn't support links --> KDE wont start. Has anybody an idea? |
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| 18:39.23 | Sho_ | shadok: The name of the future kwin is kwin. If you specifically want to refer to the incarnation with OpenGL compositing support you can talk about "kwin_composite" which is the name of the branch in which that is being developed. |
| 18:39.45 | shadok | ah yep, that's it, composite is back :) |
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| 18:39.55 | Lanken | what is the point of kssh? |
| 18:40.19 | nathanW | Lanken could u please explain a little more about what im doin in the xorg.conf so i can increase my screen resolution? |
| 18:40.44 | Sho_ | Lanken: GUI frontend to ssh |
| 18:40.59 | Lanken | nathanW: I don't know much. If you don't see anything that's obviously wrong, ask the guys in #xorg to take a look. Look for any place that it lists resolutions. |
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| 18:41.33 | nathanW | ok ill just look around, thx for your help. I'v only been using linux for about 2 hours lol |
| 18:42.00 | Lanken | Sho_: that much I had figured out...I'm more asking why ssh needs a frontend at all. I guess checking "enable X support" would be friendlier to some users than writing -X. |
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| 18:42.32 | benJIman | or you could use freenx or something if you want friendly |
| 18:42.43 | Sho_ | Lanken: It might be useful for windows switchers who are used to putty |
| 18:42.46 | benJIman | knx seems to actually work now |
| 18:42.59 | Lanken | Sho_: yeah, it looks a lot like putty. |
| 18:43.40 | lontra | i am thinking of running debian or kubuntu on my laptop...could someone recommend one over the other? |
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| 18:43.57 | JamesB192_ | nathanW: we're not psychic, we'd need your xorg.conf and probably your Xorg.0.log |
| 18:44.21 | Lanken | kubuntu is good for a complete desktop installation right out of the box. with debian you can build from the ground up. |
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| 18:44.44 | lontra | i've used linux for a while too...about 3 years |
| 18:44.57 | Lanken | lontra: so use kubuntu if you just want to install something quickly, and debian if you want to make sure you only have what you want. |
| 18:45.50 | Lanken | if you're looking for "don't use X-distro, X-distro blows," of course you won't hear it except from fanboys. :) |
| 18:46.11 | nathanW | #xorg and #ati channels are empty : /.....lol |
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| 18:46.33 | lontra | Lanken: what do you run? i was thinking of using debian cause i'm more of a power user and not a newbie |
| 18:46.41 | lontra | and i like the debian package management |
| 18:46.46 | Lanken | nathanW: I'm in #xorg right now and there are like 100 people |
| 18:46.58 | nathanW | they wont talk to me |
| 18:47.00 | Lanken | nathanW: maybe they're idle, but they might wake up and answer you. |
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| 18:47.26 | Lanken | lontra: if you have time, go for gentoo :) it's good for you. |
| 18:47.48 | lontra | Lanken: i don't have that kind of time...but my experiences with gentoo and portage were positive |
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| 18:48.11 | Lanken | yep, debian or arch. Unless you're really pressed for time, in which case: kubuntu. |
| 18:48.37 | mateus-br | VidaLinux .;) |
| 18:48.55 | nathanW | One more question, can you save an image from the internet while using the LiveDVD? |
| 18:48.56 | Lanken | gobolinux =D |
| 18:48.58 | JamesB192_ | Gentoo, would be great for a setting where you had lots of identical machines, like a computing lab. |
| 18:49.11 | Lanken | nathanW: you can if you mount your hard drive |
| 18:49.21 | Lanken | nathanW: or if you attach some removable media. |
| 18:49.46 | JamesB192_ | nathanW: Probably, you might want to save it to a persistant FSS though. |
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| 18:50.05 | JamesB192_ | s/FSS/FS/ |
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| 18:50.55 | nathanW | ok ,i was just wondering because i saved an image to see what it looked like in SkyDome and all there was is a black screen |
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| 18:51.03 | nathanW | not the image, so i figued it didnt really save |
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| 18:51.43 | nathanW | and i saved it to desktop by the way |
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| 18:53.35 | Daskreech | Is there a way to add a New sheet in KOffice from a file? |
| 18:53.59 | Daskreech | Or even better to open a whole bunch of sheets from the files in a folder? |
| 18:53.59 | Daskreech | or at least a way to open a sheet from the keyboard? :( |
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| 18:56.11 | Daskreech | <PROTECTED> |
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| 18:57.03 | ypsila | moin |
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| 18:57.48 | Lanken | huh, I didn't realize Gwenview was a kde app. |
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| 18:58.19 | Daskreech | morning |
| 18:58.19 | Daskreech | Hi annma |
| 18:58.25 | annma | hi Daskreech |
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| 18:59.32 | Lanken | what's the future of kipi? |
| 19:00.20 | pinotree | eh? |
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| 19:00.39 | Lanken | I'm about to merge gwenview, and I'm reading up on kipi to decide whether I should flag it. |
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| 19:01.13 | Lanken | does okular use kipi at all? |
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| 19:02.09 | pinotree | okular is not an image viewer |
| 19:02.53 | Daskreech | It's a document viewer |
| 19:03.33 | Lanken | pinotree: oh, of course. |
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| 19:06.31 | Lanken | pinotree: (I'm reading about okular) it looks like you've got support for cbr and cbz. I was impressed when evince loaded these, and I'm glad kde is getting the same level of support. nice! |
| 19:06.53 | Gokee2 | Now on my computer I have a nice looking K with a *gear* underneath but on my new install (both KDE 3.5) I have a nasty looking K with a blue background. Why? |
| 19:07.17 | annma | Gokee2: same distro? new install? |
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| 19:09.00 | Gokee2 | Ya |
| 19:09.14 | annma | new install on both? |
| 19:09.20 | Gokee2 | No |
| 19:09.22 | annma | ah |
| 19:09.35 | annma | the one with the old icon is an upgrade, right? |
| 19:09.37 | Gokee2 | This computer also has the nasty K and its really old |
| 19:09.51 | Gokee2 | Ya |
| 19:10.00 | annma | your upgrade did not go well then |
| 19:10.13 | Gokee2 | Eh.. |
| 19:10.20 | annma | does everything work OK apart from that icon being old? |
| 19:10.32 | Gokee2 | All my computers but the new one have the nice K it seems |
| 19:10.46 | Gokee2 | The new computer is the one with the nasty K |
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| 19:11.46 | annma | Gokee2: what distro is it? did you ask them f they ship the nasty K? |
| 19:12.10 | Gokee2 | Debian and no I did not |
| 19:12.32 | Lanken | Gokee2: where is this K appearing? the K-menu icon? |
| 19:12.36 | Gokee2 | Ya |
| 19:12.40 | Gokee2 | icons! |
| 19:12.43 | Gokee2 | Thats it! |
| 19:12.59 | Daskreech | Wahts the opinions on KSPlashX? |
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| 19:13.18 | Gokee2 | Crystal SVG has the nasty icon |
| 19:13.41 | Gokee2 | KDE-Classic has the nice one :) |
| 19:13.55 | Lanken | Gokee2: it shouldn't look *that* nasty. I think it's a decent-looking icon. |
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| 19:14.16 | Gokee2 | Its not *that* bad |
| 19:14.16 | annma | Gokee2: screenshot please then of the "nasty" |
| 19:14.30 | Gokee2 | I just don`t like it |
| 19:14.32 | annma | so I can see wether it is the KDE default or not |
| 19:14.39 | annma | Gokee2: screenshot please |
| 19:14.41 | Gokee2 | ok |
| 19:14.46 | aseigo | Daskreech: that it's _fast_ and flexible enough |
| 19:15.24 | Daskreech | where are the docs on it? |
| 19:15.28 | aseigo | nasty K: the new rap artist straight from the k to the d to the e |
| 19:15.32 | aseigo | represent. |
| 19:15.37 | aseigo | annma: hey =) |
| 19:15.43 | annma | hi aseigo:) |
| 19:15.45 | Daskreech | C++ Siiideeeee |
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| 19:18.11 | Gokee2 | Anyone know what ksnapshot comes from? |
| 19:18.15 | gufymike | how compatible with safari (latest version) is konqueror (kde version 3.5.6)? On a web sit e I'm developing a user is reporting an error that isn't reproducable with konqueror. |
| 19:18.22 | pinotree | Gokee2: eh? |
| 19:18.32 | gufymike | kde-graphics Gokee2 (if this is what you are wondering) |
| 19:18.35 | annma | Gokee2: kdegraphics |
| 19:18.54 | aseigo | gufymike: mildly compatible. there's a number of differences, though |
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| 19:19.08 | gufymike | thanks aseigo. |
| 19:19.17 | Gokee2 | Ah its its own pkg |
| 19:19.36 | roland_ | anyone know a small irc network wich might accept new server with cable modem connection? |
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| 19:21.17 | Gokee2 | Here it is www.skagitattic.com/stuff/k.png |
| 19:21.52 | Gokee2 | On my main computer it does not look so bad |
| 19:21.56 | gufymike | ok, so konqueror is the closest to safari we have available for linux? |
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| 19:22.11 | Gokee2 | I think its the plain taskbar that makes it look so bad |
| 19:22.24 | pinotree | safari was born from khtml, the konqueror html/css engine |
| 19:22.25 | annma | this icon is KDE default Gokee2 |
| 19:23.15 | annma | Gokee2: change iconset or change it alone |
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| 19:23.16 | annma | Gokee2: ask your distro channel what icon they set |
| 19:23.20 | Lanken | Gokee2: it might look bad if you had lower color depth. I've got 16-bit depth though and it looks ok for me. |
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| 19:23.46 | gufymike | pinotree: yes, but I'm trying to debug an error in my javascript with safari, the error is a pain to describe for her so I can correct it. I'm not exactly sure why its doing what it is (or even what it is doing) and I just want to reproduce it for myself. |
| 19:24.12 | gufymike | The javascript works fine in knoqi |
| 19:24.16 | gufymike | konqy* |
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| 19:26.19 | Lanken | gufymike: maybe have her set up a vnc server, then you can at least see what's going on. |
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| 19:26.53 | gufymike | Lanken: actually just asked her to do a video capture of it in action |
| 19:27.14 | Lanken | works. |
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| 19:30.31 | megaTherion | any kde developer here |
| 19:30.33 | megaTherion | ? |
| 19:30.40 | pinotree | #kde-devel |
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| 19:35.12 | NightBird | question about Kate/KWrite... is there a way to get multiple screens like in emacs? |
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| 19:36.03 | pinotree | split views? |
| 19:36.39 | sredna | NightBird: press c-s-t|h |
| 19:36.52 | sredna | 8-) |
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| 19:37.58 | NightBird | ah... |
| 19:38.21 | NightBird | there we go |
| 19:39.07 | Daskreech | is there anything our kate can't do? |
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| 19:39.30 | pinotree | do the coffee |
| 19:39.37 | aseigo | pinotree: svn up ;) |
| 19:39.40 | aseigo | heh |
| 19:39.43 | pinotree | (or the chocolate, for those who don't drink coffee) |
| 19:39.54 | pinotree | aseigo: svn up where? |
| 19:40.15 | Daskreech | Well she does have the hidden konsole. technically she can do Kteatime |
| 19:41.04 | NightBird | Daskreech: play mp3s? |
| 19:41.16 | Daskreech | hidden konsole :) |
| 19:41.19 | NightBird | (I'm pretty sure there is an emacs extension that lets you do that in emacs anyways...) |
| 19:41.35 | Daskreech | mp3123 /path/to/tunes |
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| 19:42.40 | sredna | pinotree: on the other hand, kate, like many other KDE apps is capable of making at least me frustrated enough to think it is time to go downstairs and brew coffe }:p |
| 19:43.15 | pinotree | :D |
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| 19:43.43 | NightBird | ...speaking of coffee... maybe I'll go get a mocha before class... |
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| 19:47.29 | aseigo | pinotree: in kdesdk/kate ---> new coffeemaker plugin! ;) |
| 19:48.03 | Lanken | are there linux drivers for that USB fondue kit? |
| 19:48.14 | pinotree | aseigo: ;) |
| 19:48.16 | sredna | ... it takes all the characters in your current document, pours them into a block in the middle of the active view and stirs |
| 19:49.26 | aseigo | Lanken: mmm.. fondue |
| 19:49.27 | aseigo | fondu |
| 19:50.25 | Lanken | hmm yeah, shouldn't it be fondu, because fromage is masculine? but in english it's fondue. |
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| 20:01.12 | PirateHead | How do I add syntax highlighting to a new language in Kate? |
| 20:01.38 | annma | did you look a bit how it is done? |
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| 20:01.57 | PirateHead | I don't know where to look. Is there a folder full of config files or something? |
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| 20:02.10 | annma | PirateHead: do you have KDE sources? |
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| 20:02.29 | PirateHead | annma: nope, just running a binary distribution. |
| 20:02.40 | sredna | PirateHead: write <language>.xml, while looking at existing examples and reading the documentation in the handbook |
| 20:02.48 | PirateHead | annma: I don't need to recompile Kate just to add syntax highlighting, do I? |
| 20:03.01 | annma | PirateHead: no, see sredna |
| 20:03.10 | annma | PirateHead: sredna is a Kate devel |
| 20:03.16 | sredna | PirateHead: a good starting point is to copy the xml file for the language closest to the one you want to support |
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| 20:03.35 | r3set | good evening, what's the name of the kde extension to extract tar.gz/zip... files via right click onto a file? |
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| 20:03.46 | r3set | i mean i konqueror |
| 20:03.51 | annma | in $KDEDIR/share/apps/katepart/syntax you'll find the files |
| 20:03.57 | annma | PirateHead: ^^ |
| 20:04.02 | PirateHead | awesome. That helps a lot, |
| 20:04.03 | sredna | PirateHead: after writing the file, just drop it in ~/.kde/share/apps/katepart/syntax/ |
| 20:04.27 | sredna | restart kate/kwrite and you can use it |
| 20:04.27 | r3set | correction:what's the name of the kde extension to extract tar.gz/zip... files via right click? |
| 20:04.45 | r3set | i mean an extension easy to access ark |
| 20:04.50 | r3set | without opening it first |
| 20:04.57 | sredna | r3set: i think it is in the kdeaddons module |
| 20:05.10 | sredna | it works for all formats supported by ark |
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| 20:05.19 | r3set | thank you, sredna |
| 20:06.03 | r3set | konq-plugins... right, i remember ;-) |
| 20:06.12 | annma | PirateHead: you might want to send it for being integrated in KDE4 when you're done |
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| 20:07.06 | GNAM | how can I open .djvu files? |
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| 20:07.18 | sredna | PirateHead, annma: yes, if you write a highlight, please send it to kwrite-devel@kde.org for inclusion :-) |
| 20:07.50 | Daskreech | GNAM: Okular as far as a I know |
| 20:07.57 | sredna | GNAM: install the kdegraphics module, it contains something named kviewshell that can display them i think. |
| 20:08.10 | PirateHead | sredna: I will! It's not a very commonly used langauage, but it will be nice for people to have it by default in the future. |
| 20:08.21 | sredna | Daskreech: okular is not really in shape for usage, afaik? |
| 20:08.37 | Daskreech | sredna: You have a better option for .djvu? |
| 20:08.41 | sredna | PirateHead: cool, thank you :) |
| 20:08.58 | sredna | Daskreech: kviewshell? |
| 20:09.00 | PirateHead | sredna: what I want to know is, why is the Kate icon a multi-channel micropipettor? |
| 20:09.08 | Daskreech | I don't recall kviewshell doing .djvu but then I don't really use them ;-( |
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| 20:09.17 | sredna | PirateHead: because your icon set is broken? |
| 20:09.27 | PirateHead | sredna: lol |
| 20:09.59 | PirateHead | sredna: oh, I see it now! Man, too many hours spent in the lab. Paper and pencil. Got it. |
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| 20:11.50 | hatta | haha |
| 20:11.59 | hatta | <3 biology + linux |
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| 20:12.07 | hatta | http://www.uni-essen.de/~bt0756/projects/cc/docu/coloredChromosomes.html |
| 20:12.12 | hatta | I was just looking at that |
| 20:12.16 | sredna | the black one stopped printing anything :( |
| 20:13.12 | sredna | hatta: amazing :D |
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| 20:15.55 | hatta | yeah, open source academic software is always impressive |
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| 20:25.52 | r3set | any ideas about getting gnome tray icon transparent? |
| 20:26.22 | r3set | *gaim - gnome |
| 20:26.43 | Renze | system tray icons are not icons, they are small windows provided by the app in question. So it is up to each app |
| 20:28.01 | pinotree | sredna: okular is almost in shape for normal usage |
| 20:28.11 | thiago | r3set: not possible with current Kicker. |
| 20:28.32 | r3set | okay, np, thank you (kde 3.5.5) |
| 20:28.46 | pinotree | Daskreech: and yes, okular can open djvu files |
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| 20:29.29 | Daskreech | pinotree: I know it can |
| 20:30.25 | Daskreech | I've been slightly bemused by the deep deep consideration that was taken to remove the name kpdf |
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| 20:39.24 | PirateHead | sredna: how do I handle multi-line strings? |
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| 20:39.45 | PirateHead | sredna: {" starts a multi-line string, and "} ends it. How do I describe that in the XML? |
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| 20:40.05 | litb | lol: http://www.kde-look.org/CONTENT/content-pre1/54855-1.jpg |
| 20:40.14 | eilker | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:40.31 | eilker | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:40.50 | pinotree | sudo shotdown -h now is enough |
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| 20:41.07 | pinotree | "sudo shotdown -h now" is the command (without quotes) |
| 20:41.20 | Renze | "shutdown" |
| 20:41.30 | pinotree | yeah, yeah... |
| 20:41.34 | eilker | pinotree> will it work from desktop ? |
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| 20:42.13 | litb | why not just use dcop for that? |
| 20:42.27 | eilker | me ? |
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| 20:43.02 | sredna | pinotree: look at the string contexts in some of the scripting languages |
| 20:43.08 | sredna | PirateHead: ^ |
| 20:43.15 | SirErugor | when I try opening Kopete and setting up and im-account (for msn) then it freezes and gives me the msg: "Mutex unlock failure: Operation not permitted" what does it mean and what can I do? |
| 20:43.20 | sredna | PirateHead: typically, switch context |
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| 20:43.44 | wynd | hi... is there a way that I can use DCOP to flash the taskbar? |
| 20:44.12 | PirateHead | sredna: is there a way to specify the begin behaviour and end behaviour? |
| 20:44.15 | sredna | eilker: you probably need a shebang, like #!/bin/sh |
| 20:44.31 | sredna | eilker: but hey, use /sbin/halt ;) |
| 20:44.43 | sredna | PirateHead: behaior? |
| 20:44.52 | litb | eilker: experiment a bit with "dcop ksmserver ksmserver logout" |
| 20:44.54 | SirErugor | .. and I get the mutex unlock failure also when doing some stuff in the controlpanel :S ? |
| 20:45.05 | Gokee2 | How do i make kde see the firefox I just installed in /opt/firefox? |
| 20:45.11 | eilker | sredna : i have that shebang |
| 20:45.20 | Gokee2 | Too add it to the K menu |
| 20:45.22 | sredna | Gokee2: run kbuildsycoca |
| 20:45.26 | PirateHead | sredna: I want to go into the context when it reads {", and not leave until "} -- how do I orchistrate that? |
| 20:45.33 | PirateHead | sredna: do I use Detect2Chars? |
| 20:45.40 | sredna | yes |
| 20:45.44 | sredna | sounds right n:) |
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| 20:46.07 | PirateHead | sredna: detect2chars doens't have a function to specify an ending different from the beginning, though. |
| 20:46.17 | PirateHead | Or does it, and I just don't see it? |
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| 20:47.13 | Gokee2 | sredna, That did some stuff but it did not add firefox to the K menu |
| 20:47.19 | sredna | PirateHead: one rule in the root context, looking for {" and pointing to context "string", and then a rule in context string looking for "} doing #pop |
| 20:47.42 | sredna | Gokee2: in that case, run kmenuedit and add it manually |
| 20:47.48 | PirateHead | sredna: I see. Don't quite know how to do that, though. |
| 20:48.03 | sredna | Gokee2: since ti didn't install a .desktop file KDE could find :) |
| 20:50.11 | PhilRod | Gokee2: kappfinder |
| 20:51.34 | sredna | PirateHead: <Detect2Chars char="{" char1="\"" context="string" /> |
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| 20:52.30 | sredna | PirateHead: and in context string: <Detect2Chars char="\"" char1="}" context="#pop" /> |
| 20:52.34 | x_link | Does anybody use Preload in Konqueror? |
| 20:52.35 | gemidjy | anyone has idea what makes the wheel/middle click in linux to emulate copy/paste feature |
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| 20:52.52 | sredna | x_link: like preloaded instances? sure :) |
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| 20:53.15 | x_link | sredna: Ok |
| 20:53.15 | Renze | gemidjy: X |
| 20:53.15 | x_link | Do you notice any difference? |
| 20:53.26 | gemidjy | Renze: any special module of Xorg ? |
| 20:53.36 | pinotree | gemidjy: not the wheel though |
| 20:53.37 | Renze | gemidjy: you'll have to ask in #xorg |
| 20:53.43 | sredna | yes, x_link - the preloaded instances shows immediately, unless swapping is required |
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| 20:53.45 | pinotree | just the middle click/third mouse button |
| 20:53.47 | gemidjy | Renze: thanks |
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| 20:54.02 | x_link | ok |
| 20:54.04 | PirateHead | sredna: where does the first Detect2Chars go? |
| 20:54.07 | x_link | sredna: Does it not use more RAM? |
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| 20:54.15 | PirateHead | sredna: inside Contexts but not inside a Context block? |
| 20:54.17 | x_link | Since it has one konqueror running all the time in the background? |
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| 20:55.29 | sredna | PirateHead: the first rule goes in your main context (usually the first), the second in the string contex (by convention named "string") |
| 20:55.41 | sredna | x_link: exactly :) |
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| 20:55.58 | deathplanter | hi guys |
| 20:56.01 | deathplanter | i've got a problem with kmail |
| 20:56.10 | x_link | So it uses more RAM then |
| 20:56.21 | x_link | sredna: Which number should I set it on? |
| 20:56.26 | Renze | x_link: you were expecting it to use less? |
| 20:56.34 | x_link | No |
| 20:56.37 | deathplanter | how to set it so if i close its window,it stays in background and has a tray icon? |
| 20:56.40 | x_link | But I thought it might not be good. |
| 20:56.54 | Renze | x_link: I have mine set on 1, and that is plenty |
| 20:56.58 | sredna | x_link: try and find the solution that serves you best. i think i set it to 3 |
| 20:56.58 | x_link | Should I check "Preload an instance after KDE startup" as well? |
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| 20:57.12 | x_link | Mine is already on 1 by default. |
| 20:57.24 | x_link | But should I check Preload an instance after KDE startup? |
| 20:57.37 | sredna | x_link: yes, that setting makes your first konqueror window show fast |
| 20:57.44 | PirateHead | sredna: Kate is acting like the second " is not being escaped. |
| 20:57.51 | x_link | ok |
| 20:58.02 | PirateHead | sredna: it's highlighting it and underlining it. |
| 20:58.20 | x_link | I will enable that and put the number on 2 then |
| 20:58.31 | x_link | But I think my Konqueror opens fast enough now ;D |
| 20:58.43 | vbgunz | I have the weirdest issues ever trying to launch several programs from a bash script all launched with kstart... if I launch anyone of them from the command line, kstart works fine... I don't know what I am doing wrong, but kstart never works from the script :( |
| 20:58.49 | vbgunz | anybody got an idea? |
| 20:58.52 | deathplanter | how to set kmail it so if i close its window,it stays in background and has a tray icon? |
| 20:58.57 | x_link | without "Preload an instance after KDE startup" |
| 20:59.04 | PhilRod | vbgunz: read about kstart in the user guide |
| 20:59.05 | PhilRod | ~ug |
| 20:59.08 | apt | The KDE User Guide can be found at http://docs.kde.org/development/en/kdebase/userguide/ |
| 20:59.20 | PhilRod | section "advanced window management" |
| 20:59.21 | vbgunz | ok |
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| 21:00.39 | x_link | Renze: You just have it on 1 and then checked PReloadn an instance after KDE startup ? |
| 21:00.46 | Renze | yup |
| 21:01.17 | Daskreech | deathplanter: settings ? |
| 21:01.22 | x_link | Renze: ok |
| 21:01.33 | x_link | Renze: But it doesn't use much more ram, right? |
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| 21:01.50 | Renze | x_link: barely noticeable, since most of the libs are shared anyway |
| 21:02.08 | x_link | ok |
| 21:02.09 | alphatauri | deathplanter: seeting - appearance- Sytem tray - enable sytem tray icon ? |
| 21:02.15 | x_link | What will happen if I set it on 2? |
| 21:02.25 | sredna | PirateHead: when editing your xml file? |
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| 21:02.29 | Renze | x_link: then it will be twice as noticeable |
| 21:02.34 | PirateHead | sredna: correct. |
| 21:02.44 | adamt | how can planet be so broken? It shouldn't be possible >.< |
| 21:02.53 | deathplanter | alphatauri: oh gosh,it was that easy! thanks ;D |
| 21:03.03 | adamt | have anybody tried looking at an alternative aggregation platform for planetkde ? |
| 21:03.04 | x_link | Renze: Twice as fast. ok |
| 21:03.08 | smileaf | adamt: anything is possible, even stupidity. |
| 21:03.09 | alphatauri | deathplanter: np :-) |
| 21:03.13 | Renze | x_link: twice as fast? no |
| 21:03.20 | x_link | ok |
| 21:03.22 | PirateHead | sredna: also, something wierd happened. I saved the XML file and opened a fresh version of Kate to see whether it autodetected the new language -- it did. However, loading a .dm file caused Kate to crash, and now it doens't show the highlight mode I just created. |
| 21:03.33 | x_link | Ahh RAM usage you mean |
| 21:03.45 | Renze | x_link: yes |
| 21:03.51 | x_link | ok |
| 21:04.05 | Renze | x_link: it won't be any faster, unless you're starting two instances of konqueror at the same time |
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| 21:04.59 | x_link | Renze: ok |
| 21:05.07 | sredna | PirateHead: my bad, in XML, a litteral """ is written """ |
| 21:06.04 | PirateHead | sredna: ahh... should have known. Any thoughts on how to get Kate to recognize the new language again? |
| 21:07.12 | sredna | PirateHead: restart |
| 21:07.25 | PirateHead | sredna: restart Kate, or my computer? |
| 21:07.29 | sredna | kate |
| 21:07.40 | Renze | PirateHead: this isn't Windows :D |
| 21:07.44 | sredna | if you want to restart your computer often, install windows |
| 21:07.53 | PirateHead | ya ya ya, hush already. |
| 21:08.15 | PirateHead | I acutally found a few times in Mac OS X and Gnome that I had to restart the computer to get things working -- very frustrating. |
| 21:08.50 | x_link | PirateHead: Intalling a new kernel need a reboot, not much besides that needs rebooting |
| 21:08.51 | PirateHead | yup, restarting Kate did the trick. |
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| 21:09.24 | vbgunz | PhilRod: thanks for that link, unfortunately, several kstarted applications act really weird in a script... :( e.g., each one by itself launched from the terminal does exactly what is supposed to do. trying to consolidate these applications into a script one after the other causes some weird issues e.g., applications going to the wrong desktop, apps all ganging up one one desktop, etc... |
| 21:09.39 | sredna | PirateHead: but i'm usually available here quite often, and you are welcome to write kwrite-devel@kde.org for help with kate |
| 21:09.44 | acer_ | good evening |
| 21:09.51 | acer_ | whois acer_ |
| 21:09.52 | PirateHead | error: /usr/share/apps/katepart/syntax/dreammaker-kate.xml: Specified multiline comment region (Comment) could not be resolved |
| 21:10.04 | PirateHead | that's what is causing the XML parser to choke |
| 21:10.08 | sredna | what is in that? |
| 21:10.21 | sredna | (the comment rule) |
| 21:10.28 | PirateHead | let me look |
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| 21:11.11 | PirateHead | how do I run Kate as root? |
| 21:11.48 | adamt | PirateHead: alt+f2 > kate > options .. |
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| 21:11.57 | adamt | (run as different user) |
| 21:12.20 | PirateHead | eh, I opened the terminal and used sudo |
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| 21:13.07 | adamt | PirateHead: ohh well, don't ask if you don't want advice.. ;-) |
| 21:13.16 | PirateHead | sredna: http://rafb.net/p/qCJMi872.html |
| 21:13.24 | PirateHead | that's what is causing the parser to die. |
| 21:13.47 | Rolenun | Does anyone have suggested reading material for adding clipboard support to a program? or should I be adding it based on qt, x11, or gtk+ :) |
| 21:13.54 | PirateHead | adamt: the alt+f2 option is good though, I will use that in the future. |
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| 21:14.27 | Uranellus | is there a kde devel chat? |
| 21:14.35 | Renze | Uranellus: #kde-devel |
| 21:14.44 | Uranellus | Renze: thx :) |
| 21:14.48 | sredna | PirateHead: that looks fine |
| 21:14.52 | PirateHead | This is the KDE nubs chat. |
| 21:14.59 | Rolenun | oops :) |
| 21:15.02 | sredna | i dont' know why that shouldnt work |
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| 21:15.12 | PirateHead | sredna: I think it looks okay too, but it causes Kate to *crash*. |
| 21:15.22 | PirateHead | :-( |
| 21:15.51 | sredna | PirateHead: try removing the multiline comment |
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| 21:16.49 | sredna | PirateHead: but if it breaks, there must be a reason, esp. if the cpp.xml file works, which has the exact same definition |
| 21:17.13 | sredna | good night |
| 21:17.22 | Daskreech | night |
| 21:17.33 | PirateHead | night, guess I'll get this working later. x.x |
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| 21:25.40 | litb | hm, toolbar buttons in kde4 should wrap its text, so that when the window shrinks, the toolbutton text is automatically aligned and wrapped |
| 21:25.58 | litb | remember, sometimes horizontal space is expensive too |
| 21:28.07 | Lanken | PirateHead: generally with non-cli apps it's better to use kdesu instead af sudo. I've run into complications sometimes with sudo. |
| 21:28.51 | PirateHead | Lanken: I've heard that, and I usually do, but I haven't had any problems with using sudo either. |
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| 21:29.38 | Lanken | PirateHead: when I had troubles it was on kubuntu. with gentoo I haven't really tried sudo. |
| 21:29.43 | adamt | PirateHead: It depends a lot on the configuration of the machine. |
| 21:30.05 | adamt | but generally kdesu is the nicest solution. |
| 21:30.37 | Lanken | yeah, I get "cannot connect to X server" if I do "sudo kate" |
| 21:31.48 | Renze | Lanken: run "xhost + local:" as user |
| 21:31.57 | adamt | Lanken: Try using sux instead. :-) |
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| 21:32.36 | Lanken | Renze, adamt: if I wanted it to work I would use kdesu :) |
| 21:32.45 | adamt | heh. |
| 21:33.14 | adamt | what a good boy, here's a biscuit ;-) |
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| 21:35.13 | x_link | Renze: Can I only use preload instances with Konqueror? |
| 21:35.15 | Renze | x_link: currently, yes |
| 21:35.15 | x_link | Okey |
| 21:35.16 | x_link | Thanks for your help! |
| 21:35.23 | Renze | no problem |
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| 21:45.13 | wsjunior | is there any way to configure the konqueror's search bar to be cleaned up after a search? |
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| 21:47.17 | Kyral_Laptop | Konvi go boom |
| 21:47.52 | Renze | spammers must die |
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| 21:51.11 | Lanken | Pastor123: it says you have to follow some instructions when you log in, to preserve your account. I wonder how much trouble it is. |
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| 21:52.47 | Pastor123 | Lanken its not |
| 21:52.55 | Pastor123 | try and if you dont like give up :D |
| 21:53.53 | Lanken | Pastor123: I don't really need it, I have accounts on servers at my U |
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| 21:54.16 | Lanken | Pastor123: I'm almost curious enough to sign up though. |
| 21:56.08 | slacker403 | how do i kill apache ? |
| 21:56.19 | Kyral_Laptop | apachectl stop |
| 21:56.20 | lostson | /etc/init.d/httpd stop |
| 21:56.23 | Renze | slacker403: what does that have to do with KDE? |
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| 21:56.35 | Kyral_Laptop | (Though it would be best to your distro's initscripts) |
| 21:56.44 | slacker403 | .......i meant |
| 21:56.48 | slacker403 | kill processs |
| 21:57.02 | Kyral_Laptop | killall httpd |
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| 21:57.12 | Daskreech | rm $(which apachectl) && rebot now |
| 21:57.19 | wsjunior | o.O |
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| 21:59.11 | atidem | hello! |
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| 21:59.46 | adamt | hi atidem! |
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| 22:02.33 | eilker | is it possible to show what i listen to in amarok, as personal message in kopete ? |
| 22:03.03 | adamt | yes.. |
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| 22:03.49 | nondysjunction | Hello |
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| 22:04.14 | wedgeV | i'm trying to build kde4, but i get "kdelibs requires an out of source build...." i already tried deleting CMakeCache.txt, but that doesnt help |
| 22:04.33 | nondysjunction | I put a script in ~/.kde/Autostart, and instead of running the script, it opened it in Kwrite. I was told that by placing a script there would run it. Suggestions? |
| 22:04.51 | adamt | eilker: look in your kopete plugins...hint: "now playing" |
| 22:05.04 | eilker | adamt: thanx |
| 22:05.06 | adamt | nondysjunction: chmod +x script |
| 22:05.17 | Lanken | nondysjunction: earlier today I made kwrite the default app for html, and konqueror started opening webpages that way. oops! |
| 22:05.39 | eisen | wedgeV: you need to build from an empty folder |
| 22:05.41 | pinotree | ~autostart |
| 22:05.45 | apt | To start a program or set an environment variable at KDE login, see: http://docs.kde.org/development/en/kdebase/faq/configure.html#id2560261 - or, if you want a GUI - http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=45975 |
| 22:05.47 | pinotree | nondysjunction: ^^^ |
| 22:05.55 | nondysjunction | Thanks guys! |
| 22:06.22 | Lanken | pinotree: is there a way to get apt to message me a list of those keywords? |
| 22:06.26 | eisen | wedgeV: e.g. cd build_dir && ccmake ../source_dir |
| 22:06.27 | pinotree | wedgeV: remove the CmakeFiles/ directory |
| 22:06.39 | wedgeV | thanks |
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| 22:08.35 | Lanken | can I make ksysguard or some other app draw a graph of each process's cpu use? |
| 22:09.02 | Lanken | something is intermittently asking for cpu time and I can't figure out what from top. |
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| 22:15.09 | S0NiCaw | gn9 guys |
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| 22:15.22 | SeFoKumA | hi, the size of tray system icons can be cambiados? |
| 22:15.35 | canllaith | ARGH someone come over here and take my credit card off me so I don't buy a new laptop |
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| 22:15.40 | SeFoKumA | lol sorry for my english |
| 22:15.56 | SeFoKumA | hi, the size of system tray icons can be switched? |
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| 22:16.49 | Lanken | canllaith: if you did, which kind would you get? I expect to build a desktop later this year for good linux performance. My current laptop has an ati card so it's not so great. |
| 22:17.17 | qupada | canllaith: sure |
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| 22:17.45 | qupada | i can be there in, say, half an hour |
| 22:17.52 | Lanken | is a lenovo laptop good for linux? |
| 22:18.04 | vbgunz | I really hope Dell seriously considers making at the least, drivers for all of their hardware... especially their notebooks |
| 22:18.05 | Lanken | oops. GNU/linux |
| 22:18.11 | qupada | canllaith: didn't you only just buy a new laptop like 6 months ago? |
| 22:18.14 | SeFoKumA | Lanken: check linux-laptops |
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| 22:18.55 | vbgunz | Lanken: My wife got a Lenovo T series notebook for work, I put Kubuntu on there and it recognized everything with no problems... I just never tested the modem |
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| 22:22.47 | Lanken | re: linuxcertified.com - I thought laptops had gotten a lot cheaper. I guess i was wrong. |
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| 22:24.54 | canllaith | qupada: that was for personal, I can't use it at work cause it has SONY written on it. |
| 22:25.08 | canllaith | They'll only let me use laptops that have IBM written on them :( |
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| 22:25.52 | qupada | right-oh |
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| 22:27.45 | qupada | you could do it like the porno mag hidden inside the science textbook. buy an old broken ibm thinkpad off trademe, strip everything out of it to leave a shell and add a bit of foam padding to make a case for the vaio |
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| 22:29.01 | canllaith | heh |
| 22:29.04 | canllaith | I think they'd find out |
| 22:29.19 | canllaith | I'm not allowed to buy my own laptop either, but they'll never know it wasn't issued to me if it's a thinkpad |
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| 22:30.18 | qupada | until if you quit they ask for the laptop back and you have to have a long argument about the fact it was never theirs to begin with |
| 22:30.51 | Lanken | canllaith: what's wrong with the one they gave you? |
| 22:31.38 | canllaith | I don't like it. |
| 22:31.58 | canllaith | qupada: Nah, never happen. I give them the one they issued me with, they check the serial number, and it's all fine. |
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| 22:33.12 | qupada | i guess the other problem, at least from what i've seen is most companies buy the lowest specced machines for their employees |
| 22:33.21 | canllaith | It's a T42p |
| 22:33.31 | canllaith | Pentium M 2.0Ghz, 1GB memory. |
| 22:33.32 | qupada | unfortunately that means nothing to me |
| 22:33.35 | canllaith | It's not _bad_ but it's not a core 2 duo |
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| 22:33.44 | Lanken | canllaith: gah, that's so much better than mine. |
| 22:33.56 | Lanken | canllaith: mine's 4 years old though, so..... |
| 22:33.56 | canllaith | I want to replace it with a 1920x1200 core 2 duo with a 256MB graphics card |
| 22:34.11 | canllaith | This is a 1400x1050 with a i dunno, some graphics card that only runs warcraft at 1024x768 |
| 22:34.46 | Lanken | canllaith: my Mobility Radeon 9k did fine on warcraft 3 at 1400x1050 |
| 22:34.57 | qupada | like my father's work machine. dell latitude d610. his one has a pentium m 1.6, 60GB hard drive, intel graphics, 1024x768 (painful) screen, dvd-rom/cdrw drive. have an otherwise identical one next to me with a 1.73GHz, 80GB, radeon X300, 1400x1050 screen, dvd+/-rw drive |
| 22:34.59 | Lanken | this can't be a jankier card than that, can it? |
| 22:35.02 | canllaith | This one doesn't manage it. |
| 22:36.03 | Lanken | warcraft looks better on a CRT anyway :) |
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| 22:36.17 | canllaith | Oh ew, no way. |
| 22:36.21 | Lanken | heh, and why not just play starcraft ;) |
| 22:36.54 | Lanken | oh, do you mean World of Warcraft, or Warcraft 3? |
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| 22:38.36 | PhilRod | a 1600x1200 *LCD*!? |
| 22:38.47 | Shadow_mil | whats the RSS reader up to KDE's standers? |
| 22:38.51 | adamt | PhilRod: Not uncommon :-) |
| 22:39.11 | Lanken | Shadow_mil: akregator? |
| 22:39.13 | PhilRod | to be honest, I didn't even realise LCDs went up that far |
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| 22:39.35 | Lanken | PhilRod: if they're putting 1400x1050 in laptops, what do you expect? |
| 22:39.36 | qupada | 1600x1200 is a good size actually. because the common size for that monitor is 20" you get exactly 100dpi |
| 22:39.41 | adamt | PhilRod: Some dell laptops actually got 1920*1080 screens a couple of years ago O_O |
| 22:40.16 | PhilRod | yow, I can't believe how far behind the curve I am when it comes to hardware |
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| 22:40.31 | Lanken | most of the cheap 19" lcds are 1280x1024, which means you might as well get two of them and put them far away. pixels so big... |
| 22:40.34 | PhilRod | what comes from being a poor student for the last five years, I guess |
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| 22:40.51 | qupada | yeah, i hate that current trend |
| 22:41.41 | qupada | they've increased 17" (1028x768) monitors to 19", 20" WS (1680x1050) to 22", 24" WS (1920x1200) to 26" without increasing the resolution. so you pay more, and you get an ugly monitor with less dpi |
| 22:41.44 | qupada | not good |
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| 22:42.58 | Lanken | can't beat the price, and it doesn't look half bad either. =D |
| 22:43.00 | adamt | qupada: Yeah..Even my cellphones screen has more dpi than the average pc-monitor...scary.. |
| 22:44.09 | Lanken | how long before I can get a 1280x1024 desktop projector for ~$300 |
| 22:44.10 | Lanken | ? |
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| 23:14.07 | Mulder | is there any way to put the email signature up top using kmail? |
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| 23:16.39 | yurimxpxman | how do I change the screen resolution in KDE3.5? |
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| 23:19.51 | Lanken | kcontrol > peripherals > display |
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| 23:20.03 | zorglu_ | q. i got movies and would like to use a cmdline to generate their thumbnails, is that possible ? |
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| 23:23.00 | Alethes | google for thumbnailing with mplayer or xine |
| 23:23.08 | yurimxpxman | I don't have anything about the display in kcontrol |
| 23:23.10 | Alethes | if it can be done, it'll be done with one of those backends |
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| 23:24.36 | Renze | yurimxpxman: try "kcmshell display" from a konsole |
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| 23:26.51 | yurimxpxman | Renze: That brings up an empty windowj |
| 23:26.54 | yurimxpxman | *window |
| 23:27.07 | Renze | yurimxpxman: it would appear you have an incomplete install of kde, then |
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| 23:27.25 | yurimxpxman | Renze: Do you know which package it'd be in Ubuntu (not Kubuntu)? |
| 23:27.40 | Renze | yurimxpxman: sorry, I know little or nothing about *ubuntu |
| 23:27.46 | yurimxpxman | ok, thanks :) |
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| 23:28.45 | zorglu_ | Alethes: ok googling :) |
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| 23:29.05 | Arwen | w00t, it's not ##kde? |
| 23:29.16 | Arwen | anyway - why does kpdf have an option "obey drm" ? |
| 23:30.49 | pinotree | why it should not? |
| 23:31.22 | Arwen | um, well, I was just wondering - drm is bad? |
| 23:31.43 | Kyral_Laptop | YES!!! |
| 23:32.19 | pinotree | Arwen: still waiting for your reply - why should kpdf not have a drm option? |
| 23:32.54 | Arwen | pinotree, because drm is bad? and because I can't think anyone in their right mind would want it? and because to have that default on means kde supports drm? |
| 23:33.04 | pinotree | no |
| 23:33.16 | pinotree | that does not justify the bypass of somthing |
| 23:33.16 | Kyral_Laptop | No, leave the option |
| 23:33.24 | Lanken | kde is all about giving people what they want. kde doesn't tell you what's good for you like gnome does. |
| 23:33.26 | Kyral_Laptop | If we remove it, we are removing choice |
| 23:33.27 | Arwen | it should be off by default though |
| 23:33.28 | pinotree | just because "it's bad" |
| 23:33.31 | Kyral_Laptop | and that is just as ba |
| 23:33.33 | Kyral_Laptop | d |
| 23:33.41 | Arwen | ^^ - fine, I get that, but having it on by default? |
| 23:34.15 | pinotree | kpdf is a pdf viewer, and pdf has such feature |
| 23:34.47 | Arwen | it's not a "feature"... MPEG4 has a DRM feature, should that be on by default? |
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| 23:35.00 | pinotree | if there's an option to disable it, yes |
| 23:35.08 | Arwen | should macrovision and stuff be enabled by default too? I'm not getting this |
| 23:35.10 | zorglu_ | Alethes: http://gallery.menalto.com/node/28070 <- did the trick, thanks :) |
| 23:35.16 | Arwen | that just sounds like we think DRM is good |
| 23:35.24 | pinotree | come on |
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| 23:35.42 | Arwen | I know we're arguing over pdfs, but still |
| 23:35.53 | pinotree | Arwen: put yourself in the clothes of someone using it, because "there's that in the pdf format" |
| 23:36.18 | pinotree | would you see the people bypass your work just because of "drm is bad"? |
| 23:36.27 | pinotree | if you don't want drm, complain to Adober |
| 23:36.29 | pinotree | -r |
| 23:36.55 | Arwen | well, to be honest, if it's an option, why on instead of off? and he ought to know that nobody obeys drm anyway |
| 23:36.57 | Sho_ | Arwen: The option exists for two reason, as I understand it: Adobe licenses PDF for implementation provided implementations are complete and faithful, and if open source viewers neglect to implement the silly restrictions the format has provisions for, Adobe may be asked by its customers to litigate. Second, in some countries it may be illegal to circumvent the restrictions. I assume that the DRM option can be set via Kiosk, so corporations could activate it centrally. |
| 23:37.09 | pinotree | we (==kpdf developers) just bring you a pdf viewer, with all the pro AND the cons of the matter |
| 23:37.18 | Arwen | ok, fine |
| 23:37.34 | pinotree | Arwen: "nobody obeys drm" kde won't break laws |
| 23:37.39 | Arwen | but would this sort of idea apply to stuff like enforcing macrovision? because that just sounds stupid |
| 23:38.00 | pinotree | it's stupid also complaining like you're doing |
| 23:38.06 | Arwen | meh |
| 23:38.09 | Sho_ | Arwen: The best thing you can do is not use PDF |
| 23:38.10 | pinotree | as i said, compilan to Adobe |
| 23:38.14 | Arwen | fine fine... |
| 23:38.17 | pinotree | not to kde |
| 23:38.19 | Sho_ | Well, an even better thing would be to implement an alternative |
| 23:38.22 | Lanken | what does the drm in pdfs do anyway? |
| 23:38.23 | Kyral_Laptop | Not use PDF..... |
| 23:38.23 | Arwen | I'm just bored, and I just wanted some enlightenment |
| 23:38.28 | Arwen | Lanken, not sure |
| 23:38.30 | Arwen | :-\ |
| 23:38.38 | Kyral_Laptop | It allows you to password protect them and stuff |
| 23:38.44 | ponto | Arwen: Some creators want to protect their work with DRM. Having this option on helps the people that want to respect the wishes of the creators. |
| 23:38.50 | Lanken | isn't the "analog hole" a bit gaping for static images? |
| 23:38.52 | Alethes | it allows the document owner to give you the right to read :o |
| 23:39.06 | Arwen | yes yes - ponto I understood that, the new question was "why on?" |
| 23:39.19 | Lanken | I get bank statements in password protected pdf. If that's drm I'm all for it :) |
| 23:39.29 | pinotree | Lanken: that's different |
| 23:39.38 | ponto | Arwen: if it is off by default, i cannot respect the creators intention because my actions are not forbidden |
| 23:39.40 | pinotree | password and drm are different stuff |
| 23:39.44 | Renze | Lanken: I still get mine on dead trees... my bank will never learn |
| 23:39.48 | Lanken | pinotree: I kind of thought so. |
| 23:39.52 | Arwen | ponto, :-\ |
| 23:40.07 | Arwen | Renze, honestly, I'd want a physical copy of my bank statement... |
| 23:40.14 | Arwen | dead trees or none |
| 23:40.24 | wolsni | it's easier to convert a pdf to dead trees than the other way around |
| 23:40.28 | Renze | I don't need bank statements at all... I know how much money I don't have ;) |
| 23:40.46 | Lanken | pinotree: does drm on pdf result in some handshaking or something when the file is opened? |
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| 23:40.56 | pinotree | no |
| 23:41.04 | Arwen | say, my version of k3b always fails with "cannot find files" when I choose "verify data" - is this a known bug? and has it been fixed? or is it specific to my distro? |
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| 23:41.25 | Renze | what version of k3b? |
| 23:41.35 | Arwen | 0.12.17 |
| 23:41.40 | Arwen | I know there's a 1.0 now |
| 23:41.45 | qupada | well then it's upgrade time |
| 23:41.46 | Lanken | Sho_: what's the RMS-approved alternative to pdf? |
| 23:41.57 | Kyral_Laptop | ODT? |
| 23:42.03 | Renze | djvu? |
| 23:42.05 | Arwen | qupada, I know, but compiling would be way too labor intensive for me, too many dependencies, packaging, etc... |
| 23:42.11 | pinotree | it should be XPS |
| 23:42.14 | qupada | ps.gz ? |
| 23:42.22 | pinotree | ah, no |
| 23:42.23 | Sho_ | Lanken: Dunno |
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| 23:43.52 | Lanken | is .ps FLOSS-approved? |
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| 23:57.11 | vbgunz | anybody know how I can use Konqueror and Firefox to browse the web? currently, Firefox is my default, and when trying to browse the web with Konqueror, I am asked to save the file or open it with Firefox... I actually want to open it with Konqueror while browsing with it... Anyway to do this? |
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| 23:59.54 | yurimxpxman | do any of you know the name of Novell's KDE version of the Slab menu? |
