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| 00:01.50 | kdepepo | i really hope kwin4 has improved multi-screen support, like enabling composite only on one screen |
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| 00:03.11 | Toyd | Microsoft is claiming that Linux has code in it that belong to Microsoft... we ask them to prove this, we ask them to SHOW US THE CODE!! |
| 00:03.11 | Toyd | www.showusthecode.com |
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| 00:06.37 | fnordperfect | Hi there, I'd like to know whether I can change that behaviour of Konqueror when drag&dropping files to copy by default.. is that possible? |
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| 00:23.39 | Ze_M | how is possible to see konqueror codification? |
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| 00:23.50 | Ze_M | in shell of course |
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| 00:27.16 | _pHI_ | does qt4 keep a history be default of the entries i make into an editable QComboBox? and where would it write such history to, i.e. how can i flush it? thanks :) |
| 00:28.07 | terlmann | I need some help with k3b |
| 00:28.12 | terlmann | I can't write a file |
| 00:28.20 | terlmann | I torrented a cd image |
| 00:28.38 | terlmann | but k3b insists I use a dvd to write it' |
| 00:28.50 | terlmann | and it wants to use growfs to write it |
| 00:29.01 | terlmann | the image is 510 mb |
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| 00:31.11 | terlmann | help ? |
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| 00:33.33 | _pHI_ | i was referring to the autocompletion list that is stored in an editable qcombobox... i want to get rid of the entries.. |
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| 00:56.16 | Lars_G | my gods |
| 00:56.20 | Lars_G | k3b 1.0 is SO beautyfull |
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| 01:00.07 | unity | appearance-wise? |
| 01:04.08 | unity | in konqueror, how can i force the main toolbar and the location bar to be on the same line? |
| 01:04.20 | unity | as in firefox? (in the local file browser profile) |
| 01:05.02 | Lars_G | Is there a way to make maildirs/mailboxes in kmail compressed? |
| 01:06.45 | Alethes | unity: put the browser buttons on the location toolbar |
| 01:06.48 | Alethes | hide the main toolbar |
| 01:07.10 | unity | Alethes: smart... |
| 01:07.16 | Alethes | yes |
| 01:07.17 | Alethes | yes I am |
| 01:07.18 | Alethes | :D |
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| 02:24.48 | JackPhil | if konsole's screen scrolled, the screen will not be refreshed clearly |
| 02:25.02 | JackPhil | is it a bug? |
| 02:26.28 | hibread | subpixel hinting makes your fonts look real nice. But it seem to slow konsole's refresh quite considerably. Nearly see the refresh |
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| 02:39.44 | hibread | hinting makes a massive difference to quality |
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| 02:44.33 | fynmndiag | hello. I'm having the most annoying problem ever... I can't remember the name of the part of the taskbar that is on the kde kicker that displays the beryl-manager, sound levels, beagle, etc.... |
| 02:44.49 | Jucato | fynmndiag: system tray applet |
| 02:44.54 | fynmndiag | everything is running fine, it's just this one part of the taskbar that won't work |
| 02:44.58 | fynmndiag | okay thanks |
| 02:46.02 | fynmndiag | Jucato: that applet is not listed to add... |
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| 02:46.18 | fynmndiag | there is a "taskbar" applet |
| 02:46.38 | Jucato | fynmndiag: if that's the case then it might be added already to some panel. you can only have one system tray running at a time |
| 02:46.58 | fynmndiag | well, it isn't showing up... |
| 02:47.08 | fynmndiag | it used to be there, it just isn't anymore |
| 02:47.29 | fynmndiag | i think I may have hit my key board organizing my desk and inadvertantly turned it off |
| 02:47.46 | fynmndiag | obviously everything in the system tray applet is load... it's just not displaying |
| 02:48.03 | fynmndiag | when I type "beryl-manager" the beryl-manager pull down menu pops up |
| 02:48.30 | padde | fynmndiag: that das nothing to do with the systray... |
| 02:48.50 | fynmndiag | argh |
| 02:49.12 | fynmndiag | yes it does, in the most loose sense the beryl-manager icon sits in the system tray |
| 02:49.20 | fynmndiag | obviously beryl-manager is loaded |
| 02:49.56 | padde | fynmndiag: starting beryl-manager always brings up a menu, also when it's not running, yet |
| 02:49.59 | fynmndiag | but if I run it again from bash, the pull down menu appears from the taskbar (as if I right clicked on the beryl-manager icon form the *system tray applet*) |
| 02:50.05 | fynmndiag | padde, okay |
| 02:50.20 | fynmndiag | forgive me then, but I don't know what is going on |
| 02:50.40 | padde | fynmndiag: but anyway, it can't be that hard to re-activate your systray ;) i mean, kde is intuitive, isn't it? |
| 02:51.03 | fynmndiag | it's really frustrating not to have the system tray on the taskbar, and I don't know how to enable it again, or display it, whatever the correct terminology is for getting the system tray back on the taskbar... |
| 02:51.19 | fynmndiag | well, yes, kde is beautiful and I love it |
| 02:51.38 | fynmndiag | but I can't for the life of me figure out A) how I disabled the system tray B) how to turn it back on |
| 02:51.55 | padde | fynmndiag: do you have any kicker panel on your screen? |
| 02:52.06 | fynmndiag | both of which are just driving me nuts (I'm easily irritated) |
| 02:52.08 | padde | fynmndiag: like a task bar |
| 02:52.14 | fynmndiag | yeah, I've got my full kicker |
| 02:52.25 | fynmndiag | minus my system tray =~[ |
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| 02:52.47 | fynmndiag | I've tried resizing the kicker, killing it and restarting it, etc... |
| 02:52.48 | padde | ok, right click somewhere where there are no icons |
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| 02:52.55 | fynmndiag | yup |
| 02:53.08 | padde | fynmndiag: wait, i have to switch my kde to english |
| 02:53.36 | fynmndiag | okay |
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| 02:54.41 | padde | fynmndiag: now, what do you see if you go to Remove From Panel / Applet? |
| 02:54.48 | padde | fynmndiag: is System Tray somewhere in the list? |
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| 02:56.02 | fynmndiag | there is no system tray applet listed to add |
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| 02:56.15 | fynmndiag | on the "Add Applet - KDE panel" |
| 02:56.15 | padde | fynmndiag: read my question again |
| 02:56.22 | fynmndiag | okay |
| 02:56.46 | fynmndiag | ah |
| 02:56.53 | fynmndiag | yes, I was a little to edgy =] |
| 02:56.58 | fynmndiag | okay I removed the system tray |
| 02:57.04 | fynmndiag | now I'm gonna try to re add it |
| 02:57.17 | fynmndiag | thanks so much for hitting me over the head with the obviousness of this all =] |
| 02:57.38 | fynmndiag | beautiful |
| 02:58.01 | fynmndiag | works like a <insert here whatever works really well> |
| 02:58.05 | fynmndiag | thanks padde =] |
| 02:58.12 | padde | next time lock your screen before cleaning up your desk |
| 02:58.27 | padde | worse things can happen... |
| 02:58.33 | fynmndiag | I've been going bokers over this for the last half hour, I really appreciate your help... |
| 02:58.42 | fynmndiag | yes, indeed, thanks again |
| 02:58.54 | padde | no problem |
| 02:59.06 | fynmndiag | linux and kde rock =] |
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| 02:59.32 | fynmndiag | greatest feeling I've had using a computer in awhile, heheh |
| 02:59.49 | fynmndiag | well, I'm on the path towards digital salvation :-D |
| 03:00.01 | fynmndiag | I just started on the path, I should say... |
| 03:00.19 | padde | with kde and linux you're on the right path, i would say ;) at least for my taste |
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| 03:01.15 | padde | wolsni: i guess a few would throw in *BSD ;) but there is also nothing wrong with that ;) |
| 03:02.15 | fynmndiag | kde seems to have more momentum behind it than gnome... but what do I know |
| 03:02.47 | wolsni | fynmndiag: actually, i get the impression that there's more manpower behind the Gnome project |
| 03:03.06 | fynmndiag | I've only used linux on and off since red hat 3.0, but finally decided to make the full plunge into gnu/linux land when, like I said before, I recently formatted my windows partition to free up HD space |
| 03:03.09 | padde | certainly more funds in gnome |
| 03:03.32 | fynmndiag | really? |
| 03:03.48 | fynmndiag | wow... it seems like there is a lot more desktop/gui stuff when it comes to KDE |
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| 03:03.56 | padde | with all the commercial distros building on it, of course |
| 03:03.58 | wolsni | fynmndiag: for one thing, most commercial distros default to Gnome and use it for their GUI config tools |
| 03:04.07 | fynmndiag | that's why I think I like KDE better, but who knows if I even know why I like anything =] |
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| 03:04.32 | fynmndiag | wolsni: yeah, but is that because gnome is more idiot proof? |
| 03:04.39 | wolsni | doesn't matter why |
| 03:05.15 | fynmndiag | gnome strikes me as trying to win ppl over to linux with "simplicity" whereas KDE is trying to do it with how easily it is to customize it |
| 03:05.55 | fynmndiag | all I know is that Suse is built with KDE in mind, and I like suse =] |
| 03:06.27 | padde | fynmndiag: since novell bought suse, they're setting gnome as default, afaik... |
| 03:06.27 | fynmndiag | that's not to say I don't like kde also! |
| 03:07.18 | fynmndiag | really? wow. I really am clueless |
| 03:08.38 | SAS_Spidey01 | Arn't all Distros a derivitive of the very first interm distro? |
| 03:09.23 | padde | SAS_Spidey01: no |
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| 03:09.58 | padde | i like distros which have no defaults set ;) even which have no installers at all |
| 03:09.59 | SAS_Spidey01 | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MCC_Interim_Linux |
| 03:10.25 | padde | like, umm... gentoo :) |
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| 03:10.41 | wolsni | gentoo doesn't have an installer? |
| 03:11.12 | padde | wolsni: i think there is one now, but it's not official, afaik... |
| 03:11.36 | padde | wolsni: my two gentoo systems are years old, there is no need for "reinstalling" (what a stupid word that is, even) |
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| 03:11.48 | padde | wolsni: so i don't know much about the installation process right now |
| 03:12.23 | wolsni | how do you get gentoo onto a system if it doesn't have an installer? |
| 03:12.55 | padde | wolsni: you build it in a chroot, from another linux distro (livecd or so) |
| 03:13.00 | SAS_Spidey01 | very nice: http://lwn.net/Articles/91371/ |
| 03:13.08 | smileaf | wolsni: you boot a CD and untar a minimum system, then install what you want. |
| 03:13.11 | james__ | hi all, i've been trying to get sound working on various distro's with no luck. any1 here good with sound issues or can point me to some good doc's for configuring soundcards |
| 03:13.13 | padde | wolsni: there is also a gentoo livecd, but it sucks, imo... i prefer knoppix or something |
| 03:13.14 | Jucato | wolsni: you basically copy a large "stage3" tarball which fills in the needed directories and files |
| 03:13.24 | wolsni | and that cd's not an installer? |
| 03:13.29 | Jucato | wolsni: no |
| 03:13.35 | Jucato | it's a very minimal CLI live cd |
| 03:14.03 | SAS_Spidey01 | I think theres a graphical live cd as well |
| 03:14.08 | wolsni | ah, you mean it doesn't walk you through the process |
| 03:14.20 | smileaf | that is minimum. |
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| 03:14.25 | padde | gentoo's strength is the very good documentation, which makes an installer unneeded... imo installers narrow the horizon of the user from the beginning ;) |
| 03:14.33 | Jucato | you have to download the stage3 tarball (which, as smileaf mentioned, is a minimum system that you untar), download portage, update the portage tree, chroot into the system etc |
| 03:15.12 | Jucato | wolsni: no there's no walkthrough from the CD. you need the docs with you. if you're using that method of installation |
| 03:15.25 | Jucato | I think there's also a network-less (w/o internet) installation method |
| 03:15.41 | smileaf | something like 3CDs isn't it? |
| 03:15.45 | Jucato | smileaf: btw, kdebase-startkde working well. now just trying to get kdm :) |
| 03:15.47 | james__ | i've already messed around with every setting in alsamixer and kmix many times read many forums with no success |
| 03:15.48 | padde | wolsni: installer == application which copies the files in place and does some configuration ... at least that's the common understanding of the term, i believe |
| 03:15.53 | Jucato | not sure. didn't go through that path :) |
| 03:16.13 | smileaf | Jucato: what about it? :S |
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| 03:16.30 | Jucato | smileaf: what about what? :) |
| 03:16.38 | smileaf | sorry I just had my brain fried by something I'm watching. |
| 03:16.39 | summatusmentis | is there a way to get amarok and the rest of kde to work together? amarok can't eject my ipod, because kde has it automounted, but I didn't tell kde to automount |
| 03:16.43 | padde | gentoo without network is... um... pointless - it needs a constant flow of updates from the net to be in good shape ;) |
| 03:16.59 | Jucato | padde: true. but I have a bit of a workaround :) |
| 03:17.02 | smileaf | padde: thats like any distro |
| 03:17.07 | wolsni | but if it's not networked, does it matter if it's in good shape? |
| 03:17.17 | Jucato | well, at least distros that come in 1 CD :D |
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| 03:19.42 | summatusmentis | anyone? I want to turn off automounting |
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| 03:20.29 | smileaf | summatusmentis: automounting? |
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| 03:21.23 | summatusmentis | smileaf: yeah, in gentoo, I've got hal set up. Now, when I plug in my ipod, kde automounts it, at well as amarok. I want to turn off the kde automount, so that amarok can eject it |
| 03:21.48 | smileaf | summatusmentis: #gentoo ... kde doesn't do automounting... |
| 03:22.09 | padde | summatusmentis: stop hal |
| 03:22.30 | summatusmentis | smileaf: #gentoo sent me here :-D |
| 03:22.43 | summatusmentis | padde: if I stop hal, then amarok won't mount it either |
| 03:22.55 | summatusmentis | it's a viscious circle |
| 03:22.58 | padde | summatusmentis: wfm without hal |
| 03:23.09 | smileaf | I have hal, I'm running gentoo... and kde never autoounts |
| 03:23.27 | summatusmentis | padde: wfm == ?? |
| 03:23.39 | padde | summatusmentis: works for me |
| 03:24.13 | padde | summatusmentis: i'm using autofs, by the way, like that better than hal |
| 03:24.21 | summatusmentis | smileaf: I don't know, for some reason, I've got an ipod icon on the desktop, mounted, and it's loaded in amarok. but amarok won't eject, because it's also mounted in kde |
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| 03:24.38 | summatusmentis | and right clicking -> safely remove doesn't unmount |
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| 03:25.05 | summatusmentis | padde: autofs? will it give the same functionality? |
| 03:25.26 | smileaf | summatusmentis: I have noticed in system:/ that even if I unmount something the icon is never updated. I have to manually refresh it. |
| 03:25.44 | padde | summatusmentis: no, it's a different approach. it mounts devices to mount points the moment the mount point is accessed |
| 03:26.25 | summatusmentis | smileaf: even there after refresh it's not unmounted |
| 03:26.30 | smileaf | I have an iriver clix (uses mtp so no icon is created even in system:/) but with with my flash and camera reader kde never automounts it. |
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| 03:26.43 | summatusmentis | padde: ok |
| 03:27.01 | summatusmentis | is there a way to get kde to ask(similar to windows autorun)? |
| 03:27.04 | padde | summatusmentis: that means no drive icons appearing on the desktop when you plug in some usb stick or so, but if it's a known usb stick and you defined a mount point for it, you can just open the mount point after you plugged it in... this is also compatible with openoffice and so on, because it does not use media:// |
| 03:27.11 | smileaf | summatusmentis: you didn't change any hal config did you? |
| 03:27.28 | summatusmentis | smileaf: nothing |
| 03:27.45 | smileaf | I almost wonder if amarok is doing the mounting. |
| 03:27.55 | summatusmentis | padde: ok, I think I'm gonna stick with hal right now, but thanks for the info |
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| 03:28.53 | summatusmentis | smileaf: well then, maybe kde is just recognizing the mount, and taking over? it's not the most logical thing in the world, but kde and amarok are clashing |
| 03:28.54 | smileaf | summatusmentis: amarok is probably telling kde to mount it. |
| 03:29.41 | padde | summatusmentis: i'm inclined to send you to #amarok ;) |
| 03:30.10 | summatusmentis | padde: ugh, channel hopping :-P |
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| 03:30.46 | summatusmentis | smileaf: well, if amarok is telling kde to mount it, there shouldn't be a problem ejecting it, right? |
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| 03:31.58 | smileaf | summatusmentis: unless of course when kde unmounts it amarok "recognizes" a unmounted device in its media devices list and tells kde to mount it. |
| 03:32.27 | summatusmentis | smileaf: I suppose maybe, but that doesn't make much sense |
| 03:32.34 | summatusmentis | padde: I'm asking in #amarok |
| 03:32.49 | wolsni | yeah, that seems like something the amarok guys would have caught pretty quickly during development |
| 03:33.39 | summatusmentis | it doesn't make much sense, and it seems hal related, but maybe that's just because I couldn't get either thing working before hal |
| 03:33.55 | smileaf | wolsni: devs develop it as they use it. how I use it I'd think it'd be quite easy to miss. |
| 03:34.13 | smileaf | I don't see any mounted icons anywhere unless I go to system:/ |
| 03:34.33 | smileaf | and if i use it via amarok then I'd never see that and assume it was unmounted. |
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| 03:34.53 | summatusmentis | smileaf: I'm getting an icon on my desktop |
| 03:35.59 | SAS_Spidey01 | I have a CD-ROM icon auto-placed on my desktop, thats it lol |
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| 03:36.38 | wolsni | SAS_Spidey01: you can add a panel applet to show removable media if you want to completely get rid of desktop icons |
| 03:36.58 | SAS_Spidey01 | Nah, my konsole usually sits on top of it :-) |
| 03:37.24 | summatusmentis | see, inserting a cd popped up a thing asking what I wanted to do |
| 03:37.33 | smileaf | heh.. I don't even have that applet on my panel =) |
| 03:37.39 | summatusmentis | nothing of the sort happened when I plugged in my ipod |
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| 03:37.55 | SAS_Spidey01 | My need for such things mostly ends at the network folder applet and the ls/cd/mv/rm/cp commands |
| 03:39.13 | victor__ | hello? |
| 03:39.22 | smileaf | no one is home |
| 03:39.37 | smileaf | cept strange voices maybe. |
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| 03:40.32 | summatusmentis | I can't even force the unmounting |
| 03:40.47 | smileaf | summatusmentis: what happens if you close amarok? |
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| 03:41.40 | summatusmentis | ok, there it just let me umount it |
| 03:42.06 | summatusmentis | smileaf: and eject it |
| 03:42.23 | smileaf | are you disconnecting it in amarok? |
| 03:42.35 | summatusmentis | no, that's after closing amarok, via the CLI |
| 03:42.44 | smileaf | summatusmentis: I mean when you want to umount it. |
| 03:43.00 | summatusmentis | yeah |
| 03:43.33 | smileaf | well if closing amarok allowed it to be umounted I think we've found the culprit. |
| 03:44.13 | summatusmentis | heh, now let's fix it :-P |
| 03:44.23 | smileaf | #amarok :D |
| 03:45.02 | summatusmentis | absolutely no response |
| 03:45.12 | smileaf | it is late. |
| 03:46.05 | smileaf | might need to ask earlier in the day. |
| 03:46.23 | summatusmentis | I'm a student, I guess I could ask when I get home tomorrow |
| 03:46.30 | summatusmentis | smileaf: alright, thanks for the help |
| 03:46.38 | smileaf | np |
| 03:46.45 | summatusmentis | padde, SAS_Spidey01, and wolsni: thanks for all the help |
| 03:46.51 | summatusmentis | and if I missed anyone, thanks |
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| 03:50.19 | summatusmentis | ok... weird, now it magically fixed itself, it just needs to be mounted before amarok can access it |
| 03:52.02 | evth | anybody have problems getting a revolution MX to work correctly by chance? |
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| 04:08.10 | phatlip | hey guys, where can i get some info on plasma? |
| 04:08.27 | phatlip | more than just a paragraph description (perhaps mailing list or newsgroup?) |
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| 04:45.55 | morphius_ | using ubuntu. |
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| 05:54.15 | Jucato | Sho_: are you awake? :) |
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| 06:00.51 | Shirakawasuna | just out of curiosity |
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| 06:28.51 | alesan | re |
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| 06:28.56 | Airwulf | hello to you all |
| 06:29.19 | Airwulf | which is the first script kdm calls after user login? Xstartup, Xsession? |
| 06:29.22 | alesan | is there an application that draws "post-its" on the screen so that I can have random notes around? |
| 06:29.34 | Jucato | alesan: knotes |
| 06:29.51 | alesan | Jucato, :) |
| 06:31.05 | alesan | Jucato, I have the binay, it works, and I can start it from a konsole. I don't find the icon in the manu system however |
| 06:31.14 | alesan | do you have an idea where it should be? |
| 06:31.25 | Jucato | alesan: should be under Utilities |
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| 06:31.50 | Jucato | alesan: if you just installed it right now and it didn't show up, run "kbuildsycoca --incremental" (as a normal user) in Konsole |
| 06:32.35 | alesan | ok |
| 06:32.44 | alesan | it's under Utilities / Desktop / Knotes |
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| 06:32.50 | alesan | (I'm using gentoo) |
| 06:33.07 | scx | hi, how do I set Amarok 1.4.4 to use postgre? |
| 06:33.25 | Jucato | hehe weird coincidence, I just installed kdebase-startkde last night :D |
| 06:33.38 | scx | I don't see the option and I forgot how I did it the last time... |
| 06:33.59 | Simeon_H | but I don't has a powaful enuff computar |
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| 06:34.21 | benJIman | scx: It's disabled in the stock suse version, ensure you're using yaloki's, then settings -> collection -> database |
| 06:34.27 | Jucato | scx: nothing in Settings -> Configure Amarok -> Collection? |
| 06:34.30 | Jucato | bah he's fast |
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| 06:34.57 | scx | benJIman: mmm I think I have Guru's |
| 06:35.24 | scx | I'll reinstall it |
| 06:36.01 | scx | Jucato: :p |
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| 09:01.17 | monzie | Hi all |
| 09:01.22 | monzie | I am using KDE 3.5.6 |
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| 09:01.28 | monzie | A weird problem |
| 09:01.46 | monzie | Sound seems to be playing through my laptop speakers *and* through my headphones |
| 09:01.51 | monzie | how do i stop this |
| 09:01.52 | monzie | ? |
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| 09:02.59 | Simeon_H | err |
| 09:03.14 | Simeon_H | have you used this laptop before without KDE? |
| 09:03.14 | monzie | all KDE apps are causing this problem |
| 09:03.31 | monzie | Simeon_H: was using Ubuntu before and did not have this problem |
| 09:03.37 | annma | monzie: I also had this due to my sound card, not due to KDE |
| 09:03.45 | monzie | on Ubuntu GNOME has this problem, in Gentoo, both! |
| 09:03.50 | annma | monzie: does it work OK with xmms for ex? |
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| 09:05.00 | monzie | annma: i dont have xmms yet |
| 09:05.09 | monzie | annma: problem seems to be the same with totem in kde |
| 09:05.10 | annma | I bet it does not work either |
| 09:05.17 | annma | in kde does not matter |
| 09:05.28 | annma | what sound card is it? |
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| 09:06.30 | annma | monzie: what sound card is it? |
| 09:08.30 | monzie | ati sb |
| 09:08.57 | annma | lspci -v |grep 'Audio' |
| 09:09.01 | annma | paste output |
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| 09:10.40 | annma | monzie: ^^ please |
| 09:10.58 | monzie | 00:14.2 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc SB450 HDA Audio (rev 01) |
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| 09:12.34 | annma | what alsa drivers? |
| 09:13.39 | annma | what laptop? |
| 09:13.52 | annma | what kernel? |
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| 09:14.03 | annma | find out all that info and search google |
| 09:14.24 | annma | you'll see that probably alsa has the bug |
| 09:14.30 | annma | not kde |
| 09:14.56 | annma | KInfoCenter gives you some information btw |
| 09:15.13 | annma | monzie: ^^ that's for you |
| 09:16.30 | monzie | annma: ok |
| 09:16.36 | annma | http://gentoo-wiki.com/HARDWARE_Asus_A6R |
| 09:16.42 | annma | if that's your laptop |
| 09:16.45 | annma | for example |
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| 09:31.25 | Jucato | ~autostart |
| 09:31.39 | apt | To start a program or set an environment variable at KDE login, see: http://docs.kde.org/development/en/kdebase/faq/configure.html#id2560261 - or, if you want a GUI - http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=45975 |
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| 09:32.28 | akrus | hm, what's up with SVN? :) |
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| 09:32.41 | sabayonuser | hi |
| 09:32.53 | sabayonuser | where is the sabayon channel |
| 09:32.57 | Jucato | ah there :) |
| 09:33.08 | sabayonuser | lol |
| 09:33.10 | sabayonuser | hehe |
| 09:33.29 | sabayonuser | i know you Jucato:P |
| 09:34.11 | Jucato | O.o |
| 09:34.17 | icwiener | Jucato: He knows you. ;) |
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| 09:34.34 | Jucato | Jucato: I know you, too!! |
| 09:34.47 | George_NL | lol |
| 09:34.56 | George_NL | you are in kubuntu also |
| 09:34.57 | George_NL | right |
| 09:35.13 | Jucato | in #gentoo and #suse as well :D |
| 09:35.24 | Jucato | (although I only lurk in those two) |
| 09:35.27 | George_NL | suse is crap |
| 09:35.27 | George_NL | ;P |
| 09:35.40 | George_NL | suse has some people with bad attitude |
| 09:35.51 | Jucato | we'll see. :) |
| 09:35.51 | George_NL | i think kubuntu is most laidback |
| 09:36.06 | George_NL | debian are snobs |
| 09:36.21 | Jucato | I don't want to generalize though... |
| 09:36.24 | icwiener | Yeah right... o.O |
| 09:36.27 | George_NL | and debian website is worst of all and ubuntu website the best |
| 09:36.41 | Jucato | icwiener: who are you responding to? :D |
| 09:36.48 | monzie | Jucato: hi |
| 09:36.54 | Jucato | ubuntu website is not the best :P |
| 09:36.56 | Jucato | hi monzie |
| 09:37.11 | monzie | Jucato: i have sound coming out fromboth my laptop speakers and headphones |
| 09:37.13 | George_NL | yes it is |
| 09:37.14 | Jucato | (although Debian's not that great in the "pretty" area) |
| 09:37.22 | monzie | Jucato: it creates problems in the office ;) |
| 09:37.24 | Jucato | they have different audiences |
| 09:37.29 | icwiener | Jucato: to the generalisation.... I find it a bit confusing. |
| 09:37.33 | Jucato | monzie: oh... I'm a noob when it comes to laptops |
| 09:37.40 | George_NL | Jucato: debian is still in the ,com era with that 1999 look |
| 09:37.52 | Jucato | icwiener: hm.. ok... :/ |
| 09:38.11 | icwiener | George_NL: You choose your distro from the appearence of the website? |
| 09:38.17 | George_NL | hey good news for gamers |
| 09:38.18 | George_NL | :P |
| 09:38.36 | icwiener | Jucato: I mean, I agree with you. One should not generalise. |
| 09:38.51 | George_NL | Microsoft found that linux has windows code in it and now they are going to force all the big distro makers to make a hybrid ;P |
| 09:38.54 | Jucato | icwiener: ah ok...now you're the one who's confusing me :P |
| 09:38.55 | George_NL | yay |
| 09:38.56 | George_NL | :D |
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| 09:39.45 | George_NL | RMS is going to have an heartattack |
| 09:40.03 | Jucato | probably not |
| 09:40.17 | George_NL | icwiener: isnt that how you pick your girlfriends?? |
| 09:40.18 | Jucato | GNU != Linux |
| 09:40.28 | icwiener | George_NL: No. |
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| 09:40.55 | George_NL | when i say linux i refer to GNU/linux which is called linux nowadays |
| 09:41.22 | George_NL | Jucato: mexicans are legal americans also |
| 09:41.34 | George_NL | since Mexico is on the continent of america |
| 09:41.37 | George_NL | thats the samething |
| 09:41.56 | George_NL | when i say americans you think of United States and not brazil or canada etc |
| 09:42.05 | George_NL | nice try Jucato :P |
| 09:42.27 | Jucato | hm? |
| 09:42.28 | icwiener | Anyway: Linux != GNU... |
| 09:42.33 | George_NL | haha |
| 09:42.41 | George_NL | i knew linux is the kernel |
| 09:42.44 | George_NL | know* |
| 09:42.49 | George_NL | and GNU the rest |
| 09:42.58 | Jucato | I'm just saying that RMS didn't have a hand in the Linux kernel itself. so that if Microsoft found problems with the Linux kernel, it won't matter much to RMS |
| 09:43.12 | Jucato | he'll probably take it as a sign to speed up work on HURD anyway |
| 09:43.16 | Lanken | George_NL: some of the rest isn't GNU, but most of it is. |
| 09:43.36 | George_NL | i forgot to put in and |
| 09:43.42 | George_NL | GNU and the rest |
| 09:43.42 | Lanken | apache isn't GNU, is it? |
| 09:43.43 | George_NL | soz |
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| 09:44.38 | George_NL | amagawd i have to wait 3 weeks on my book A song for susannah the Dark Tower |
| 09:44.40 | George_NL | :/ |
| 09:45.04 | Lanken | George_NL: topic... |
| 09:47.19 | George_NL | Lanken i cant pm back non regged nick :/ |
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| 09:48.28 | BlueDevil | hello |
| 09:48.41 | BlueDevil | i have a kmail related question, is this the right place to ask? |
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| 09:49.20 | Jucato | ask away, and then we'll know :) |
| 09:49.32 | Jucato | but there's also #kontact for kdepim stuff (which includes kmail) |
| 09:50.29 | BlueDevil | i use kubuntu, kde 3.5.3, kmail 1.9.3 |
| 09:50.33 | BlueDevil | kmail is reinjecting every message i get, i use imap |
| 09:50.42 | BlueDevil | any way to change this behavior |
| 09:50.43 | BlueDevil | ? |
| 09:50.51 | George_NL | Jucato: whats the latest kde? |
| 09:50.56 | Jucato | KDE 3.5.6 |
| 09:51.05 | Jucato | 3.5.7 is coming soon afaik |
| 09:52.10 | George_NL | amarok has better apps than gnome |
| 09:52.18 | George_NL | i mean kjde* |
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| 09:52.28 | George_NL | -j |
| 09:52.56 | BlueDevil | anyone? :) |
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| 09:53.55 | Jucato | BlueDevil: hm.. sorry... but you might want to check http://bugs.kde.org and see if that problem has been reported and/or fixed |
| 09:54.19 | Jucato | seeing that you're 3 releases old, it might have been fixed already. |
| 09:54.24 | Jucato | you might also want to ask in #kontact |
| 09:55.03 | George_NL | sabayonlive-2374: |
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| 09:57.57 | Lanken | if I'm in kdm, how do I kill it and start a new xserver? |
| 09:57.59 | Lanken | I'm trying metisse |
| 09:58.02 | Lanken | or |
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| 09:58.13 | Lanken | I mean kill it and *NOT* start a new xserver |
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| 10:00.58 | XVampireX | Lanken: sudo killall kdm ? :P |
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| 10:06.52 | vbgunz | fellas please help. I logged into Kubuntu, and I have no taskbar... they don't show up, my desktop, icons "Alt+F2" works and I do have kicker installed... not sure what happened here :( |
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| 10:07.20 | vbgunz | when I try to say "kicker &" at the shell, I get kicker command not found :( |
| 10:07.40 | Jucato | vbgunz: try to reisntall kicker then |
| 10:08.12 | vbgunz | Jucato: what would be the best way to "reinstall" something without removing it then reinstalling it? |
| 10:08.33 | Jucato | sudo apt-get install --reinstall kicker (or use Adept) |
| 10:08.43 | vbgunz | Jucato: ok will try! |
| 10:08.46 | Jucato | in Adept, right-click and select "Request Reinstall" |
| 10:09.14 | vbgunz | I cannot launch adept from Ctrl+F2 |
| 10:09.22 | vbgunz | I am doing the apt-get that's working |
| 10:09.25 | Jucato | adept_manager |
| 10:09.30 | vbgunz | ahh |
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| 10:10.08 | vbgunz | this could had resulted from trying out that suse kickoff... I tried it, never liked it, uninstalled it then blam |
| 10:10.09 | vbgunz | one sec |
| 10:10.13 | Jucato | yes |
| 10:10.24 | vbgunz | Jucato: you are the man! |
| 10:10.30 | Jucato | that's an issue with the kickoff thingy |
| 10:10.43 | Jucato | :) |
| 10:11.35 | vbgunz | Jucato: oh, I been looking for you for a bit but you've been signed off... remember my issue with upgrading to Feisty? I couldn't do it... anyhow, I solved it... incredibly I only had to uninstall "ipython" and then the upgrade went fine... wanted to tell you that |
| 10:11.52 | Jucato | ah nice |
| 10:12.54 | vbgunz | ok brb |
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| 10:16.48 | vbgunz | Jucato: yup, that worked and I did try calling adept but you're right it is called "adept_manager". thank you very much, I got stunned for a moment :) |
| 10:17.08 | Jucato | :) |
| 10:19.06 | Jucato | uh oh? both hein and Sho_ gone?!?! :O |
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| 10:26.58 | XVampireX | Jucato: You're gone with the wind. |
| 10:27.11 | sredna | kontact daily spawns two messageboxes claiming that it already runs. which it does not. if i say 'start anyway' to the first, it crashes no matter what i do to the second one :o |
| 10:27.13 | canllaith | evenin all |
| 10:27.27 | AmyRose | Evening? it's 5:30 in the morning here! |
| 10:27.38 | sredna | 10:27 |
| 10:28.07 | sredna | 12:27, sorry |
| 10:28.11 | vbgunz | heh, gday |
| 10:28.12 | AmyRose | hahaha |
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| 10:35.10 | burning_ | i want a dock application |
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| 10:35.16 | burning_ | in KDE |
| 10:35.47 | sredna | is it me, or is the 'run' dialog in KDE slower than hell? there are seconds of waiting here, whith no CPU load on a resonably fast PC |
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| 10:36.23 | burning_ | i have seen it in XFCE enviromnt |
| 10:36.24 | AmyRose | sredna: Must be you, because I don't see that problem.. o.o' |
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| 10:37.14 | sredna | maybe it's just the first time, additional uses aren't delayed |
| 10:37.33 | sredna | i would like to have that it preloaded |
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| 10:38.21 | alesan | hi, I read somewhere it is possible to let openoffice print with the kde printing system. how? |
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| 10:49.46 | sredna | alesan: simply use 'kdeprinter' as the printing command i believe |
| 10:49.56 | JohnFlux | alesan: ubuntu has an openoffice-kde package iirc |
| 10:50.03 | sredna | or 'kprinter' maybe |
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| 10:50.40 | alesan | JohnFlux, I'm using Gentoo |
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| 10:51.01 | JohnFlux | alesan: oh, I'm sorry |
| 10:51.06 | JohnFlux | comforts |
| 10:51.08 | JohnFlux | stupid fingers |
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| 10:52.11 | ian__ | how do i check my kde version? |
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| 10:54.27 | Jucato | ian__: on any KDE app, Help menu -> About KDE |
| 10:54.39 | Jucato | or "kde-config --version" in a command line |
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| 10:56.23 | pulse00 | hi there, is it possible to set the background of 2 panels differently? ie set one panel background normal, the other transparent ? |
| 10:59.53 | AmyRose | pulse00: I hear ya, but I'm sorry I've got no answers. :( |
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| 11:00.31 | pulse00 | np ;) |
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| 11:05.27 | ipavkovic | hi there |
| 11:06.49 | ipavkovic | can anyone explain me the encoding of passwords in kde rc files, e.g. ~/.kde/share/config/kresources_kcal_egroupwarerc |
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| 11:25.07 | annma | Sho_: ping |
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| 11:26.08 | Sho_ | annma: pong |
| 11:26.09 | annma | Sho_: konvi does not show the correct time |
| 11:26.24 | annma | it shows -2 hours |
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| 11:27.23 | Sho_ | annma: It's a normal QTime::currentTime() I'm afraid |
| 11:27.38 | annma | weird |
| 11:28.03 | annma | [11:27] <annma> weird |
| 11:28.10 | annma | it's 13:27 |
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| 11:30.51 | Oern | Do anyone know what this error mean? "kio_fish: 544: got kio_fish: 459: could not exec! No such file or directory" Could not exec what? |
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| 11:31.08 | Oern | I got this error message trying to use the fish protocol in konqueror |
| 11:31.26 | canllaith | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:31.29 | canllaith | A oops |
| 11:31.45 | annma | hihi canllaith |
| 11:33.02 | pulse00 | hi there, is it possible somehow not to show icons in the k menu ? |
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| 11:35.01 | canllaith | pulse00: yup |
| 11:35.05 | canllaith | It requires editing a configuration file |
| 11:35.25 | canllaith | open up ~/.kde/share/config/kickerrc in an editor and tell me if you can fine the line MenuEntryHeight somewhere |
| 11:35.31 | pulse00 | ok, thanks |
| 11:35.36 | canllaith | There should be a section called [menus] that it's inside |
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| 11:37.21 | pulse00 | yep, MenuEntryHeight=0 |
| 11:38.26 | canllaith | Ok |
| 11:38.33 | canllaith | Change it to MenuEntryHeight=-1 |
| 11:38.56 | canllaith | That should turn icons off entirely. |
| 11:38.57 | canllaith | I assume you set it to 0 to try and turn off icons? |
| 11:39.32 | canllaith | Once you've done that, execute 'dcop kicker kicker restart' from the run box or a terminal, and your menu should have changed |
| 11:39.58 | pulse00 | cool, that's it, thanks! |
| 11:40.25 | canllaith | :) you're welcome |
| 11:40.26 | pulse00 | is this also possible for the context menus ? (ie right click on desktop) |
| 11:42.02 | vbgunz | i'm a bit curious, in Gnome, if you ALT+DRAG on a window, does the window move OR is this a KDE thing? |
| 11:42.40 | canllaith | It's an X11 convention |
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| 11:42.51 | canllaith | It works in Gnome as well |
| 11:43.24 | vbgunz | really? hmm, I am using inkscape and it is telling me to ALT+DRAG to select an image behind an image *but* this doesn't work... I keep moving the window itself :/ |
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| 11:43.33 | diego | hi |
| 11:43.42 | vbgunz | hello |
| 11:43.52 | pulse00 | canllaith, do you know if there's such a config file for the context menus as well ? |
| 11:43.56 | canllaith | you can redefine the keyboard |
| 11:43.59 | diego | how can i switch the default file browser to dolphin instead of konqueror? |
| 11:44.04 | canllaith | pulse00: unfortunately as far as I'm aware you cannot turn off the icons on those menus. |
| 11:44.19 | pulse00 | canllaith, ok, thanks for the info |
| 11:44.28 | vbgunz | diego: maybe in file associations in kcontrol can help |
| 11:44.43 | diego | ill have a look at that |
| 11:45.18 | pulse00 | my last question, i promise ;) : can i make make one panel transparent and leave the other one normal ? |
| 11:45.21 | vbgunz | diego: wherever you see konqueror, add Dolphin above it but don't remove Konqueror |
| 11:45.52 | vbgunz | pulse00: that would be very nice if you could but I never found a way to do that, if you find out, let me know :) |
| 11:45.56 | canllaith | I don't think so pulse00 :) |
| 11:46.38 | vbgunz | that would be a very nice addition to KDE, the ability to customize every panels background, this would lead to really nice designs... I currently use 3 panels :/ |
| 11:47.00 | pulse00 | but this guy managed it somehow: http://www.kde-look.org/content/preview.php?preview=1&id=56703&file1=56703-1.jpg&file2=&file3=&name=Murrine+Green+Deviant |
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| 11:47.36 | diego | theres no association for folders, so folders are still opening with konqueror |
| 11:47.45 | vbgunz | thats gnome and two completely types of panels I think |
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| 11:47.58 | vbgunz | diego: really? |
| 11:48.02 | vbgunz | diego: one sec |
| 11:48.11 | diego | yeah |
| 11:48.31 | pulse00 | vbgunz, weird, found that on kde-look.org ... |
| 11:48.59 | vbgunz | diego: try inode > directory ... add dolphin to the top there |
| 11:49.06 | diego | ok |
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| 11:49.27 | vbgunz | diego: also inode > system directory |
| 11:49.28 | diego | ok! |
| 11:49.40 | diego | tyvm vbgunz! |
| 11:49.58 | vbgunz | np :) |
| 11:50.05 | diego | bye, ;) |
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| 11:50.34 | vbgunz | pulse00: kde has several types of panels too, though I only ever used "panel" |
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| 11:53.11 | vbgunz_ | don't konversation have an easy way to say "kick my ghost"... heh, I would really think it should :P |
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| 11:57.45 | Jucato | vbgunz: I think would really think you could make a simple command alias for it :D |
| 11:58.24 | Jucato | wb Sho_ :D |
| 11:59.02 | Sho_ | moin Jucato |
| 11:59.34 | vbgunz | heh, I think Renze once told me use Konversation, (I used to use Gaim), I took his word for it... I thought it would at least have an easy way to kill my ghost :P |
| 11:59.52 | vbgunz | I have to look into konversation a little better, hopefully soon enough :) |
| 12:00.33 | Jucato | vbgunz: like I said, a simple command alias would do. it has the added advantage of being customizable.. you can call it /killvbgunz if you want :D |
| 12:01.10 | Jucato | Sho_: you had me worried when both hein and Sho_ quit freenode earlier :D |
| 12:01.17 | Sho_ | vbgunz: Nickname services are nonstandardized, i.e. IRC clients have to go out of their way to support things like that, so the "at least" is inappropriate |
| 12:01.38 | vbgunz | Jucato: I am not sure how to "alias" anything on IRC |
| 12:01.50 | vbgunz | Sho_: explains my misunderstanding about it, sorry :) |
| 12:02.02 | Sho_ | vbgunz: Jucato is referring to Settings -> Configure Konversation -> Behavior -> Command Aliases |
| 12:02.19 | vbgunz | oh |
| 12:02.22 | vbgunz | sweet |
| 12:02.24 | vbgunz | I found it |
| 12:02.30 | vbgunz | Sho_: no thanks to you |
| 12:02.32 | vbgunz | :P |
| 12:02.42 | vbgunz | nah, thank you very much :) |
| 12:03.49 | vbgunz | so now to call the alias I say //alias right? |
| 12:04.01 | vbgunz | heh, that is a sweet tip for the day :) |
| 12:04.24 | Jucato | vbgunz: you generally leave the / out of the alias name |
| 12:05.04 | vbgunz | really? uhoh, need to make it an ill name then |
| 12:05.32 | vbgunz | killnick |
| 12:05.45 | vbgunz | heh |
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| 12:13.49 | vbgunz | I am at kcontrol > keyboard shortcuts > stuck ... how do I change the ALT+CLICK|DRAG Behaviour? I would like to change it to WIN+CLICK|DRAG. any clue? |
| 12:14.27 | Jucato | vbgunz: KControl -> Desktop -> Window Behavior -> Moving tab |
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| 12:15.05 | vbgunz | I don't see an option for ALT > WIN |
| 12:15.09 | Sho_ | (actually it's the Window Actions tab) |
| 12:15.20 | vbgunz | or that key is better known as MOD or something, not sure :/ |
| 12:15.20 | Jucato | ah sorry |
| 12:15.23 | Sho_ | vbgunz: Set it to "Meta" instead of "Alt" |
| 12:15.26 | Jucato | Meta |
| 12:15.36 | Sho_ | vbgunz: And then set the Win keys to be Meta in the keyboard options (chances are they are already) |
| 12:15.50 | vbgunz | heh, one sec |
| 12:16.03 | vbgunz | wow, works! |
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| 12:16.20 | vbgunz | I can definitely continue with my inkscape tutorial :) |
| 12:16.22 | vbgunz | thanks fellas! |
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| 12:16.46 | xushi | hi all |
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| 12:16.54 | vbgunz | Sho_: yeah, the WIN key is set to META, it works :) |
| 12:16.57 | vbgunz | hello |
| 12:17.10 | xushi | how can i tell kde to display the menu to shutdown or end sessoin instead of logging off to the user/passwd page ? |
| 12:17.18 | xushi | when i click on log-off |
| 12:18.53 | vbgunz | xushi: I think you may need to reword that, I am not sure what you mean :( |
| 12:19.46 | xushi | when i go to the Menu, then click on Log Out..., it logs me out automatically to the window where you can enter your username and password |
| 12:19.58 | vbgunz | oh |
| 12:20.02 | xushi | on the other laptop, when you click on Log Out, it asks you waht you want to do.. end session, switch off pc, etc... |
| 12:20.07 | annma | you don't have kdm xushi? |
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| 12:20.09 | xushi | how do i do that? i cant seem to find it |
| 12:20.12 | xushi | really ? |
| 12:20.16 | xushi | i thought i had kdm |
| 12:20.19 | xushi | let me check |
| 12:20.31 | xushi | yep, i have kdm |
| 12:20.33 | annma | when I logout from KDE I get to kdm |
| 12:20.39 | JohnFlux | xushi: seems strange you don't have that menu |
| 12:20.42 | icwiener | xushi: You can say somewhere in the session settingt if you want ot be asked at that point. |
| 12:20.55 | Jucato | xushi: are you using GDM to login to KDE? |
| 12:21.07 | xushi | aha!! |
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| 12:21.12 | xushi | "Confirm Logout" |
| 12:21.18 | xushi | thanks, that was what i was looking for |
| 12:21.23 | icwiener | xushi: kcontrol -> KDE Components -> Session Management (or similar) |
| 12:21.30 | icwiener | right :) |
| 12:21.31 | xushi | yep, found it. thanks =) |
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| 12:25.29 | _blondy_ | the best Spanish vidente visits his blog are very interesting rituals of love and many things but visitalo http://eltarotdesalem.blogspot.com/ |
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| 12:26.06 | atidem | ciao! |
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| 12:29.46 | mariux | otherwise it works great |
| 12:30.51 | mariux | 6 seconds actually |
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| 12:32.31 | mariux | the top time of X increased with 20 seconds changing back and forth one time |
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| 12:53.25 | jachin | Hi. :) |
| 12:53.43 | Tuju | is there an applet for sealert when it's emitting messages to dbus? |
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| 12:59.43 | jachin | sealert? |
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| 13:01.20 | Tuju | yep, you're right. |
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| 13:01.32 | Tuju | I knew the tool but thought otherwise. :/ |
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| 13:12.27 | Tuju | the wired part is that i'm not seeing any alerts even it's running. |
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| 13:18.18 | KotBehemot | hi there is there any possibility to restart menuapplet in kde? |
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| 13:18.49 | jachin | ... |
| 13:19.05 | KotBehemot | because if i run beryl |
| 13:19.15 | KotBehemot | and make dcop kicker kicker restart |
| 13:19.15 | annma | dcop kicker kicker restart |
| 13:19.26 | KotBehemot | my menu applet looks |
| 13:19.28 | KotBehemot | bad |
| 13:19.45 | KotBehemot | it should have file session new etc. etc. |
| 13:19.56 | KotBehemot | but after i restart kicker |
| 13:20.09 | KotBehemot | it has only file and session |
| 13:20.11 | KotBehemot | nothing else |
| 13:21.57 | vbgunz | I think knetworkmanager needs some tweaking :/ |
| 13:22.19 | KotBehemot | so nobody knows what shall i do? |
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| 13:37.20 | Fri13 | Hi! Im just starting to rip audio CD and thinking that ogg bitrate. When i go to Kcontrol and select from there ogg settings, is quality setting so if it is bigger number (right) it is better quality and leftside (smaller number) lower quality? |
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| 13:45.23 | Rusty1 | after an updrade to 2.6.20 and a debian unstable dist-upgrade, kdm, kdesktop wont start or install |
| 13:45.50 | Rusty1 | appears that kdelibs4c2a doesnt like the gcc-4.1-base |
| 13:46.36 | annma | kdelibs4? |
| 13:46.43 | annma | debian is so confused |
| 13:48.04 | Jucato | there's an explanation for it |
| 13:48.07 | Jucato | let me dig it up |
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| 13:48.54 | jachin | Digging, Digging, Digging... |
| 13:49.55 | Jucato | still digging :) |
| 13:50.28 | grepper | http://www.davidpashley.com/debian-kde/faq.xhtml#id2801458 |
| 13:50.30 | jachin | Cheer up! |
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| 13:51.06 | Jucato | bah you're fast :D |
| 13:51.24 | jachin | :) |
| 13:52.21 | Tm_T | Jucato: bah, you're just getting slower |
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| 13:53.11 | Rusty1 | hmm #debian-kde, lets see |
| 13:53.25 | Tm_T | Jucato: not in your case, you're forever young |
| 13:53.32 | Jucato | hahah :) |
| 13:53.39 | Jucato | I'm a vampire :D |
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| 14:06.46 | mkl1525 | Hi, does anybody know how to get the "Call Graph View" in KCachegrind? didn't find it on the views page |
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| 14:17.44 | grinreaper | hey in ktorrent how do i disable queue manager |
| 14:17.48 | grinreaper | someone? |
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| 14:21.44 | grinreaper | hey in ktorrent how do i disable queue manager |
| 14:22.03 | grinreaper | or atleast see to it that the it is user controlled |
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| 14:42.43 | mrigns | brrr |
| 14:42.55 | saka | hi all |
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| 15:06.20 | ReV3lde | Hello |
| 15:06.36 | ReV3lde | before use apt-get, my KDE Control Panel is empy :S |
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| 15:13.20 | SimAtWork | morning alll |
| 15:16.33 | ReV3lde | SimAtWork: hi |
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| 15:16.33 | ReV3lde | i'm have a problem, my center of control no see any |
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| 15:28.29 | annma | ReV3lde: can you please explain? |
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| 15:32.20 | ReV3lde | annma: my english is bad, but, i am use apt-get and install some packages, this update libs... now when enter in "Center of Control" not see any |
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| 15:37.17 | annma | you need kdebase |
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| 15:38.04 | n8 | kde control center hangs when installing a printer |
| 15:39.25 | ReV3lde | kdebase is a package ? install with apt-get install kdebase ? |
| 15:40.43 | annma | yes |
| 15:41.04 | annma | maybe #debian-kde will help you ReV3lde |
| 15:41.20 | n8 | using sabayon linux |
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| 15:47.16 | row | I opened a load of files in kate and now ftp server saying I have too many connections even tho only like two are open so can't save changes via ftp |
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| 16:23.55 | pulse00 | hi there, is it possible to edit the contents of the desktop right-click menu ? |
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| 16:29.50 | aseigo | pulse00: yes .. and no =) |
| 16:30.09 | aseigo | pulse00: you can set what menu to use in the config panels... and you can choose between a variety of predefined menus or your own custom menu |
| 16:30.39 | aseigo | pulse00: the custom menu is essentially limited to launching applications; you can also use servicemenus to extend the default menu with new entries in the Actions submenu based on mimetypes |
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| 16:31.20 | pulse00 | aseigo, where is the config to edit ? |
| 16:31.35 | lexs | why does sometimes all of my kde apps freeze at the same time? :/ |
| 16:32.01 | Sho_ | pulse00: KControl -> Desktop -> Behavior -> Mouse Button Actions |
| 16:32.11 | pulse00 | Sho_, cool, thanks! |
| 16:32.14 | Sho_ | pulse00: Set "Right button" to "Custom Menu" and click Edit |
| 16:32.16 | aseigo | pulse00: right click on the desktop, Configure Desktop, Behaviour |
| 16:32.27 | aseigo | or via kcontrol as Sho_ mentions. gets you to the same panel =) |
| 16:33.25 | pulse00 | nice, that's it, thanks |
| 16:33.25 | Sho_ | and of course running "kcmshell desktopbehavior" for the third way |
| 16:33.30 | Sho_ | :) |
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| 16:45.04 | Flying_Eagle | hi |
| 16:45.41 | Flying_Eagle | is it the usual case that you cant drag and drop links and email-addresses from one application (say kmail) to another (say konqueror)? |
| 16:45.48 | Flying_Eagle | and that both crash... |
| 16:46.50 | Desintegr | that works at home |
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| 16:49.45 | Flying_Eagle | hm? |
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| 16:52.47 | tominglis | hi does anyone know how to enable binary transfer in kasablanca? |
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| 17:18.03 | linuxsat | evening |
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| 17:39.01 | anditosan | what application do I need to install in order to have my usb video camera to work with kopete |
| 17:39.41 | thiago | your camera's v4l2 drivers |
| 17:39.53 | Alethes | having kopete helps too |
| 17:39.56 | Alethes | :) |
| 17:40.19 | thiago | right, that's important |
| 17:40.22 | anditosan | mm? |
| 17:40.28 | anditosan | confused |
| 17:40.31 | Alethes | sorry |
| 17:40.33 | Alethes | it was a joke :P |
| 17:40.36 | anditosan | oh |
| 17:40.55 | anditosan | ok, so what do i need |
| 17:41.02 | Alethes | [13:39:42] <thiago> your camera's v4l2 drivers |
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| 17:43.04 | anditosan | help |
| 17:43.10 | _mehdi | adiou |
| 17:43.18 | thiago | anditosan: we've helped you |
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| 17:43.41 | anditosan | what |
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| 17:43.42 | anditosan | ? |
| 17:43.47 | thiago | we have helped you |
| 17:43.50 | anditosan | didn't get it then |
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| 17:43.57 | thiago | what part of it? |
| 17:43.59 | _mehdi | hello world |
| 17:44.11 | Alethes | _mehdi: writing your first program? :) |
| 17:44.24 | _mehdi | no |
| 17:44.28 | Alethes | *sigh* |
| 17:44.34 | _mehdi | I've already write 1 |
| 17:44.34 | Alethes | my humour is completely wasted, I think |
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| 17:44.47 | Alethes | that's two jokes in a row |
| 17:44.49 | Alethes | zooooooooz |
| 17:44.50 | Alethes | m |
| 17:45.04 | _mehdi | http://paralleleport.sourceforge.net/ |
| 17:45.26 | irule | anybody have a nice example on a bilingual IVR even if its small? Id like to see how creative you can be heh |
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| 17:45.47 | _mehdi | I dont speak englih very mutch |
| 17:45.52 | _mehdi | *ùuch |
| 17:45.56 | _mehdi | *much |
| 17:46.24 | _mehdi | and you Alethes? |
| 17:46.35 | Alethes | all I speak is English |
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| 17:47.21 | _mehdi | have you make your first program |
| 17:47.23 | _mehdi | ? |
| 17:47.44 | Alethes | yes |
| 17:47.49 | Alethes | many times over, I guess |
| 17:47.52 | _mehdi | under Linux? |
| 17:48.05 | Alethes | sure |
| 17:48.10 | _mehdi | :) |
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| 17:48.40 | _mehdi | I search programmer to continue my program |
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| 17:58.04 | mehdi_ | printf("hello world\n"); |
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| 18:06.33 | x_link | Shouldn't I be able to get KDE 3.5.6 now when I use Debian testing? |
| 18:06.35 | x_link | The new Testing |
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| 18:07.00 | Gentle | you should be, but that's just out of an idealistic point of view ;) |
| 18:07.19 | Gentle | as in, whether you should be doesn't really imply that you actually are ;) |
| 18:08.05 | wolsni | too bad there's not a website that lists the versions of the packages for the different versions of debian |
| 18:08.50 | wolsni | packages.debian.org says 3.5.6 is only in unstable |
| 18:10.00 | Gentle | wolsni: isn't testing newer than unstable? |
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| 18:10.15 | wolsni | Gentle: pretty sure it's the other way around |
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| 18:10.48 | Gentle | probably, I'm not overly familiar with debian naming schemes, other than the fact that they're illogical ;) |
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| 18:11.27 | wolsni | stable = fully tested; testing = queued to be added to stable; unstable = undergoing active development |
| 18:11.29 | dealer | why kdepim compile process sometimes freezes? |
| 18:11.35 | wolsni | according to http://www.us.debian.org/releases/ |
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| 18:18.55 | Lanken | Sho_: I've been re-integrating firefox into my workflow (I wonder if I used that word right) and yesterday it gave me a very funny dialog. Link: http://140.180.156.211/ffwtf.png . I guess firefox hasn't been coded to treat ".jpeg" the way it treans ".jpg". |
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| 18:19.54 | wolsni | Lanken: more likely it's a misconfigured webserver |
| 18:19.54 | Sho_ | Lanken: Guess so |
| 18:19.57 | Gentle | Lanken: it's actually just a mime-database that you can extend with new extensions, your distribution seems to have not included a decent list |
| 18:19.57 | sabayonlive-1473 | ARG! First Install desktop problem!!! |
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| 18:20.36 | Lanken | huh, wolsni is in the minority ;P |
| 18:20.49 | Sho_ | Lanken: Or the web server doesn't hand out a proper MIME type and Firefox arrives at the "JPEG file" by looking at the extension, but refuses to take action based on that shaky concept |
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| 18:21.17 | wolsni | Lanken: ? what minority is that? |
| 18:21.26 | Gentle | wolsni: yours ;) |
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| 18:21.36 | mrigns | Lanken: aaaaaaah, the gtk looks brrrrrr |
| 18:21.38 | mrigns | ;P |
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| 18:22.38 | mrigns | sabayonlive-1473: what's your problem? |
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| 18:24.42 | Lanken | Sho_: is it possible for me to get KDE drag-and-drop to work in FF the way it does in konqueror? |
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| 18:25.25 | Sho_ | Lanken: No idea (I don't use drag'n'drop very much) |
| 18:25.40 | Lanken | it feels really good to drag a link to the desktop |
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| 18:26.05 | mrigns | afaik it's not possible within kde |
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| 18:27.45 | Lanken | this is the worst experience I've had with ff: when I click a .avi link, it asks what I want to do with it, open with (browse), save, something else. When I click browse, I get a gtk file selection dialog, so I click the "give me an address textbox" button, and type /usr/bin/mplayer" |
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| 18:28.01 | Lanken | it hangs like crazy after bin/, because it's reading the directory (I can only assume) |
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| 18:28.34 | Lanken | so even though I don't need it to do that at all (I know it's /usr/bin/mplayer) there's no way to avoid having my machine do that work. |
| 18:28.37 | Lanken | -_- awful. |
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| 18:29.22 | Lanken | and it doesn't remember this address, somehow, and I have to go through the whole painful process again. |
| 18:29.28 | Lanken | (off to class, have a good day) |
| 18:30.12 | Sho_ | Lanken: I use mplayerplug-in embedded in it |
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| 18:59.03 | shadok | hi |
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| 19:00.53 | shadok | i'm having a problem on many timeouts in a row (as you could have seen a few minutes ago), i "think" it's due to my recent switch from 1MB to 2MB but the strange thing is that i never had this problem with irssi (which I use during those hard times), anyone heard about that before ? |
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| 19:01.04 | shadok | *due to my modem not supporting my recent switch from... |
| 19:01.23 | thiago | is your IP changing? |
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| 19:02.00 | shadok | i'm monitoring that right now but given the time it takes to reconnect i'd say no |
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| 19:02.22 | shadok | it happened only two times in 2 or 3 months |
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| 19:03.05 | wisej | Afternoon. I have Fedora Core load with KDE as Desktop. I am looking for ability to manage wireless far better. What resource do we have for managing wireless networks? |
| 19:03.26 | thiago | iwconfig |
| 19:03.29 | shadok | thiago: erf, i just saw i should go on #konversation, i'm joining right now |
| 19:03.32 | wolsni | wisej: knetworkmanager is pretty nice |
| 19:04.06 | wolsni | or wlassistant if you don't want everything automated for you |
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| 19:04.45 | wisej | I loaded that. but the "Network" tab is greyed out... and I launch from shell as 'root' |
| 19:04.52 | CPrgmSwR2 | HI, is there a way to reset all of Kwrites settings |
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| 19:05.07 | wolsni | wisej: there are no tabs in knetworkmanager |
| 19:05.12 | wisej | It shows bytes and current IP etc.. but no way to 'display" |
| 19:05.36 | wisej | when I launch it it shows up (as I would expect) in system tray. |
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| 19:06.15 | wisej | The inteface in "Control Center" looks interesting for defining profiles but it does not work. |
| 19:06.29 | wolsni | wisej: I'm not sure what program you're talking about but it's not knetworkmanager |
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| 19:06.53 | wisej | [root@wizej ~]# knetworkmanager |
| 19:07.02 | wisej | that is the binary I called from the shell |
| 19:07.20 | wisej | it launches and shows up as a "white" usb looking devicein the system tray |
| 19:07.35 | wolsni | and when you click on the tray icon it doesn't give you a list of available wireless networks? |
| 19:08.22 | wisej | when I hover over it the icon it pops up "Wired ethernet connection active: eth0" |
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| 19:08.28 | wolsni | http://files.opensuse.org/opensuse/en/9/90/Knetworkmanager.png |
| 19:08.40 | wolsni | it should give you all available networks in a menu like that when you click on it |
| 19:08.45 | wisej | when I double click on it it shows four tabs.. kk.. will review image |
| 19:09.07 | wisej | hmm |
| 19:09.07 | workman161 | oh you, and your small panel |
| 19:09.17 | wolsni | that's not my desktop |
| 19:09.21 | wisej | THAT is more of what I am looking for... a pane with listed wireless devices |
| 19:09.39 | wisej | are you guys running fedora? I am running FC 7.3 |
| 19:09.45 | workman161 | I've got fedora 6 |
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| 19:09.51 | wolsni | wisej: it sounds like you are using kwifimanager and not knetworkmanager |
| 19:09.57 | workman161 | KNetworkManager works fine for me |
| 19:10.12 | workman161 | wolsni: [15:05:23] <wisej> [root@wizej ~]# knetworkmanager |
| 19:10.26 | wolsni | workman161: does knetworkmanager have tabs on your system? |
| 19:10.38 | workman161 | Not sure |
| 19:10.45 | workman161 | thats on my laptop which is still in my bookbag |
| 19:10.47 | wolsni | double-clicking the knetworkmanager icon doesn't do anything special either |
| 19:11.56 | wolsni | wisej: i'm only using FC6, but knetworkmanager works fine for me |
| 19:12.27 | wisej | ah.. I got it |
| 19:12.27 | wisej | my bad.. you have to right click and wait a sec... |
| 19:12.28 | wisej | I was double clicking |
| 19:12.30 | wisej | aka.. showing me active connection which was my LAN wired / |
| 19:13.18 | wolsni | well, maybe there's a different version of knetworkmanager in the test version |
| 19:13.40 | wolsni | you probably shouldn't be using the test releases unless you're a developer, btw |
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| 19:15.01 | wisej | test |
| 19:15.48 | wisej | Ok.. back.. When I 'activated' the wireless interface it dropped my wired.. set new default gw.. but did not prompt for username / password .. |
| 19:15.48 | workman161 | double-clicking knetworkmanager 0.1-0.6.svn20061113.fc6's icon does nothing |
| 19:16.06 | workman161 | what version do you use? |
| 19:16.12 | wisej | left click once. |
| 19:16.14 | workman161 | for me, right click and single/double click are the same |
| 19:16.15 | wisej | let me check |
| 19:17.10 | workman161 | I'd be swell to have kopete automatically reconnect when NetworkManager's status changes |
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| 19:17.31 | wolsni | workman161: too bad there's not a 'network status' plugin that can handle that |
| 19:17.34 | wolsni | oh wait :) |
| 19:17.38 | workman161 | :D |
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| 19:18.38 | wisej | knetworkmanager-0.1-0.9.svn20070409.fc7 |
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| 19:19.11 | wisej | I would ASSume that I need to change the security connection type / authentication type of the interface |
| 19:19.35 | wolsni | wisej: "username/password" ? do you have some kind of VPN setup? |
| 19:19.44 | wisej | no |
| 19:19.56 | CPrgmSwR2 | My kate is freezing up when I try to use the php script highlighter |
| 19:20.17 | wisej | no vpn.. just uses key |
| 19:20.33 | wolsni | wisej: I think 'connect to other wireless network' exposes all the available authentication settings |
| 19:20.50 | workman161 | is there a text-based networkmanager frontend? |
| 19:21.17 | wolsni | all I know of is nm-tool, which is just for querying (ie, no switching networks, etc) |
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| 19:21.39 | wisej | I also now realize that kppp which works fine to use my phone as a cdm connection.. does not show as a listed "dialup connection' though when I go into the 'configuration' and select dialup... and click on cofigure.. it brings up kppp |
| 19:22.15 | wisej | cool on "connect to other wireless" |
| 19:22.20 | wisej | I will play with it. |
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| 19:24.44 | wisej | test |
| 19:25.06 | wisej | very nice interface |
| 19:25.22 | wisej | Dialup connections are not showing... something is broken me thinks. |
| 19:25.32 | wolsni | wisej: what's nice about it is that it automatically keeps you connected to the "best" connection available |
| 19:25.53 | wisej | I was hoping that it was a bit closer to the IBM wirless tool |
| 19:26.14 | wisej | which roams for defined networks you use / trust and atomatically connects |
| 19:26.25 | wisej | I am running a T42 |
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| 19:26.31 | wolsni | wisej: um, it does that |
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| 19:26.52 | wisej | LOL.. I am in a IBM briefing conferance.. so not a lot of wlans to snoop :>) atm. |
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| 19:28.28 | wisej | interesting .. I think the bug with the "dialup connections" is a gui bug.. it displays a very tiny box next to it .. but not my defined dialup connection in kppp |
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| 19:30.29 | wisej | can someone add a dialup test inteface to check if this is a bug unique to me? plz |
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| 19:34.02 | Agiofws | hello |
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| 19:34.18 | wisej | Hello. |
| 19:34.45 | Agiofws | is there any bugs when ever i try to shutdown the pc from kde my system freezes any one know what this could be ? |
| 19:35.26 | thiago | KDE (kdm actually) only calls shutdown |
| 19:35.48 | wolsni | wisej: the knetworkmanager wiki suggests that knetworkmanager gets its dialup settings from YaST |
| 19:35.52 | Agiofws | thiago, so its kdm's fault ? |
| 19:35.55 | thiago | no |
| 19:35.57 | thiago | it's shutdown's |
| 19:36.10 | thiago | but was it before or after X quit ? |
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| 19:37.54 | wisej | hmm |
| 19:38.18 | Agiofws | thiago, you think poweroff or shut down don't have the right privs ? |
| 19:38.20 | wisej | so on a Fedora box.. one would have to manage / add a dialup managed interface directly via kppp |
| 19:38.52 | saeed | hello guys |
| 19:39.00 | wolsni | right, and it looks like the Fedora team has hacked knetworkmanager to start kppp when you want to manage dialup stuff |
| 19:39.48 | thiago | Agiofws: kdm certainly does |
| 19:39.50 | wisej | is their any thoughts / comments on where / how to post bug that knetworkmanager is not corectly calling this in Fedora 7.3? |
| 19:39.54 | thiago | Agiofws: had X already quit or not? |
| 19:39.58 | saeed | anyone ever had some luck synching a Palm LifeDrive? my device gets stuck at 86% ANYTIME I try to do a backup |
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| 19:40.14 | saeed | I am using kpilot by the way |
| 19:40.25 | Agiofws | thiago, this guy goes to -turn off computer in kde |
| 19:40.32 | Agiofws | and then th pc freezes |
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| 19:40.52 | wisej | <saeed> ... did you test at a shell with dlpsh? |
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| 19:41.02 | wisej | doing a basic file xfer test? |
| 19:41.04 | Agiofws | thiago, in k-menu |
| 19:41.11 | wolsni | wisej: fedora's bugzilla is hosted at redhat: bugzilla.redhat.com |
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| 19:41.21 | saeed | wise: how would u do it? I am a newbie |
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| 19:41.58 | wisej | kk.. I will post bug on fedora forum.. I have made a ton of progress on network mangment. thx guys |
| 19:42.16 | wisej | I will play with interface and do some more RTFM. |
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| 19:42.46 | Agiofws | thiago, once he presses -turn off computer in kmenu the pc freezes the screen goes black and ctr+alt del or f1 f2 f3 f4 wont respond any ideas ? |
| 19:44.14 | wisej | <Agiofws> .. can he force a restart of X via ctr+alt+backspace ? |
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| 19:44.30 | saeed | wise: how would u do it? |
| 19:44.42 | Ze_M | aseigo: can you take a look to bug 139880 |
| 19:44.43 | Agiofws | wisej, not even |
| 19:44.46 | saeed | dlpsh? |
| 19:44.50 | wisej | yes |
| 19:45.24 | wisej | it is a shell to a acess through the visor conduit |
| 19:45.31 | Agiofws | wisej, he did not ry that |
| 19:45.39 | saeed | how do u do it please? |
| 19:45.47 | wisej | let me test with my palm.. one sec.. grabing cord |
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| 19:47.43 | thiago | Agiofws: I've never seen that |
| 19:47.50 | thiago | Agiofws: nothing I can think of |
| 19:47.54 | JesusLovesYou | i have a problem with kaudiocreator |
| 19:47.59 | Agiofws | wait let me see if he can kill X |
| 19:48.05 | thiago | Agiofws: does it still respond to pings? Can someone connect via ssh? |
| 19:48.24 | JesusLovesYou | even as root, it still claims it cannot access /dev/cdrom or /dev/hdc (/dev/cdrom -> /dev/hdc), even though in 2.4.33.3 kernel i ripped one cd just fine |
| 19:48.24 | Agiofws | i'll ask |
| 19:48.28 | wisej | try to kill X .. you should get debug on close |
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| 19:49.13 | wisej | <saeed> .. testing my palm / phone.. one sec. .I just moved back to linux this saturday.. so things still in disaray .. loading driver. |
| 19:49.36 | saeed | OK |
| 19:49.40 | saeed | I am all ears |
| 19:51.06 | MinceR | eww, mutant |
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| 19:51.38 | oliverg | hi all |
| 19:51.57 | oliverg | is there a way to develop Kate plugins in a script language? |
| 19:52.07 | pinotree | oliverg: #kate |
| 19:52.16 | oliverg | oh.. thx :-) |
| 19:52.23 | oliverg | didnt know it has an own channel |
| 19:53.16 | wisej | <saeed>... wtf.. the testing for such a device (use to be in pilotlink usergroup) was to tail out /var/log/messages get the device ID it attached at .. then run dlpsh -d /dev/'device attached' ; get a file list then copy one file from the device local to test connection. THEN run kpilot or jpilot which use the pilotlink engine |
| 19:54.35 | wisej | <saeed> .. I am noob.. it is called pilot-dlpsh |
| 19:54.40 | wisej | one sec |
| 19:55.02 | dealer | always when i'm building kdepim, i get a screen with "recipientseditor.cpp:320: warning: when initialized here" and the machine freezes.. what i have to do? |
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| 19:55.58 | Desintegr | dealer: buy more ram ? |
| 19:56.17 | dealer | Desintegr: it's 512mb.. |
| 19:56.25 | Desintegr | add more swap |
| 19:57.04 | Agiofws | thiago, ctr+alt backspace gets stuck |
| 19:57.05 | saeed | wise: can u please walk me through the whole process, some stuff u said went over my head |
| 19:57.14 | dealer | it's 509 free on swap |
| 19:57.33 | thiago | Agiofws: how about ping? and ssh? |
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| 19:57.45 | Desintegr | dealer: you need a LOT of memory if you want to compile kdepim |
| 19:58.00 | dealer | you say swap or ram? |
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| 19:58.14 | Desintegr | if you can't buy ram, add swap |
| 19:58.14 | Desintegr | but it's slower |
| 19:58.15 | Agiofws | no thats what i am telling hiom to do |
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| 19:59.09 | dealer | Desintegr: what's the command to add swap using a file? |
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| 19:59.34 | Desintegr | dealer: http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/linux/RHL-8.0-Manual/custom-guide/s1-swap-adding.html |
| 20:01.08 | dealer | the weird is that just kdepim is like this |
| 20:03.42 | PhilRod | dealer: are you using --enable-final? If so, try turning that option off |
| 20:03.46 | wisej | <saeed> pilot-dlpsh -p usb:/dev/ttyUSB2 -c user |
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| 20:04.12 | wisej | <PROTECTED> |
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| 20:07.18 | Agiofws | thiago, |
| 20:07.24 | Agiofws | he ccan ssh to the box |
| 20:07.31 | Agiofws | what shoudl he look at ? |
| 20:07.40 | dealer | PhilRod: thanks, i'll try |
| 20:07.46 | thiago | check what processes are running |
| 20:07.51 | thiago | check if there has been a kernel crash |
| 20:07.56 | thiago | check if killing X works |
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| 20:09.30 | Agiofws | thiago, 1) top 2) demsg 3) kiallall X |
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| 20:10.46 | dealer | PhilRod: enable final uses much more ram on compile process? |
| 20:10.54 | thiago | dealer: a lot more |
| 20:11.05 | dealer | double? |
| 20:12.10 | thiago | make that 10 times more |
| 20:12.19 | thiago | upwards of 10 |
| 20:12.30 | thiago | you're building the entire library in one go |
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| 20:12.36 | thiago | so, ALLÂ sources are read and compiled |
| 20:12.39 | schlitzer | hey |
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| 20:14.11 | schlitzer | i have a funny problem, i can poweroff my system via halt from the console & i can switch it off via kdm, but if ´im logged in as a user in kde & i try to shuthdown the system, everything starts like it should. but the system will not power off |
| 20:14.30 | schlitzer | it tells power off, but than the kernel or whatever is only blanking the screen |
| 20:14.32 | silver_hook | I have a question concerning CA's in KMail ...anyone willing to help? |
| 20:14.36 | schlitzer | any idea on this? |
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| 20:18.14 | tuxman | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:18.14 | Agiofws | thiago, when this guy does power off in k menu t he hwole thing just freezes he canot ping it or ssh or notheing but when he uses shutdown from console everything works normaly any ideas ? |
| 20:18.15 | silver_hook | tuxman: yea |
| 20:18.15 | StevenR | tuxman: it does sftp certainly. |
| 20:18.16 | StevenR | tuxman: note that ftps != sftp |
| 20:18.16 | tuxman | and ftp/ssl?(also named ftps |
| 20:18.17 | silver_hook | tuxman: fish:/user@server.com |
| 20:18.18 | tuxman | I know |
| 20:18.30 | thiago | Agiofws: X crashed the kernel. |
| 20:18.33 | StevenR | silver_hook: fish is not sftp either :) |
| 20:18.45 | Agiofws | ut when he uses shutdown from console everything works normaly any ideas ? |
| 20:18.47 | silver_hook | StevenR: it's scp |
| 20:18.58 | tuxman | silver_hook: does it also support ftps? |
| 20:18.58 | thiago | Agiofws: can he log out (not shutting down)? |
| 20:19.00 | silver_hook | StevenR: or at least, as far as i know |
| 20:19.10 | wolsni | fish is not scp |
| 20:19.11 | StevenR | tuxman: sftp://user@server:portifnot22/path/to/wherever |
| 20:19.22 | StevenR | wolsni: oh? |
| 20:19.24 | Agiofws | yes |
| 20:19.35 | pinotree | fish is ssh |
| 20:19.35 | wolsni | fish puts a small perl script on the server to tunnel files over ssh |
| 20:19.42 | silver_hook | tuxman: and the same only with fish: in front to use ssh/scp |
| 20:19.50 | wolsni | it's for older ssh servers that don't handle sftp |
| 20:19.57 | silver_hook | scp = copying over ssh |
| 20:20.10 | pinotree | ssh = not only scp |
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| 20:20.34 | pinotree | fish = ssh as kiosalve |
| 20:20.37 | pinotree | *kioslave |
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| 20:20.52 | silver_hook | pinotree: true |
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| 20:22.24 | pinotree | tuxman: ftp over ssl is *not* supported, yet, please see bug http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=66117 |
| 20:22.30 | pinotree | and others, too |
| 20:22.53 | tuxman | pinotree: ok thank you |
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| 20:26.10 | silver_hook | anyone using s/mime in kmail? |
| 20:26.50 | pinotree | silver_hook: you might have mor l ucky in #kontact |
| 20:26.54 | pinotree | *lucky |
| 20:27.22 | silver_hook | pinotree: they said i should ask here, that they answer dev things |
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| 20:29.50 | evan__ | does anybody have an Asus P5N32-SLI Premium? :D |
| 20:30.10 | pinotree | evan__: what's the real problem? |
| 20:30.40 | evan__ | my USB mouse stops working like 3 minutes after I boot up |
| 20:30.51 | evan__ | it's a revolution MX and it seems like the receiver is just losing power |
| 20:31.13 | evan__ | Nothing in dmesg, and I tried it on diff hardware and it works great |
| 20:31.14 | pinotree | ##linux please |
| 20:31.23 | evan__ | k thanks |
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| 20:45.53 | lontra | is there a way to tell konqueror to not open a new instance when i click on a link in konversation (or another program) and to just open it as a tab? |
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| 20:46.11 | wolsni | lontra: yes, it's in the konqueror web browsing settings |
| 20:46.24 | Gentle | or |
| 20:46.49 | Gentle | lontra: Konversation Settings => Behaviour => General => Use external browser, put "kfmclient newTab '%u'" into the textfield |
| 20:48.28 | wolsni | you have to click on the 'advanced settings' button |
| 20:48.28 | lontra | wolsni: thanks ... i found it |
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| 21:11.02 | Layer8 | hi there |
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| 21:11.24 | Layer8 | can someone tell me how to change the space between icons on my workplace? |
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| 21:14.52 | dealer | jesus, kdepim uses so much ram.. |
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| 21:17.27 | vbgunz | Layer8: right click your desktop > configure desktop > advanced options (on first screen far right) |
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| 21:42.48 | Intangir | k3b cant burn audio CDs from mp3 audio sources? |
| 21:43.20 | wolsni | it can, but i think the plugin to do it is packaged separately |
| 21:43.40 | Intangir | which one? |
| 21:43.45 | lontra | Intangir: what distro? |
| 21:43.51 | Intangir | ubuntu 6.10 |
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| 21:44.02 | Intangir | is it slax or something like that? |
| 21:44.04 | lontra | Intangir: ask in #kubunt they can help |
| 21:44.09 | lontra | #kubuntu |
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| 21:49.19 | Ze_M | still isnt possible to use svn |
| 21:50.00 | Ze_M | lontra: what so much people are using ubuntu or kubuntu when istn such a great distro, for example mandriva is much better |
| 21:50.23 | lontra | Ze_M: huh? |
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| 21:50.46 | dmead | is there kde-only version of beagle? |
| 21:50.48 | lontra | i agree that mandriva is a better kde than kubuntu ... but i use openSuSE :) |
| 21:50.51 | lontra | dmead: kerry |
| 21:50.55 | dmead | url? |
| 21:51.02 | dmead | googling for kerry comes up with the senator |
| 21:51.07 | dmead | :> |
| 21:51.19 | lontra | http://en.opensuse.org/Kerry |
| 21:51.30 | dmead | ty |
| 21:51.33 | Ze_M | dmead: for what i saw suse have some nasty bugs comparing to mandriva |
| 21:51.33 | lontra | np |
| 21:51.44 | lontra | Ze_M: are you just a troll? |
| 21:52.18 | lontra | [16:51] <Ze_M> dmead: for what i saw suse have some nasty bugs comparing to mandriva < -- what does that have to do with anything? my link was regarding kerry |
| 21:52.49 | dmead | he made a mistake hitting tab completion probably |
| 21:52.54 | dmead | for nicks |
| 21:53.03 | dmead | some clients do the last person that spoke |
| 21:53.20 | icwiener_ | doesn't change the content of the messages. ;) |
| 21:54.16 | dmead | well, opensuse is probably relegated to beta-quality since novell bought them out |
| 21:54.25 | dmead | but thats neither here nor there |
| 21:54.38 | dmead | kerry still wants the gnome-vfs and -desktop stuff |
| 21:54.39 | dmead | wtf |
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| 21:55.42 | MinceR | suse used to be better than beta quality? :> |
| 21:55.47 | dmead | : |
| 21:55.49 | dmead | :> |
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| 22:00.49 | XVampireX | Can anyone help me? |
| 22:00.53 | XVampireX | my KDE clock doesn't want to be synchronized... |
| 22:01.05 | MinceR | kwhip :> |
| 22:01.18 | MinceR | do you have something like ntpd running to do it? |
| 22:01.26 | XVampireX | hmm |
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| 22:01.40 | XVampireX | MinceR: Nope |
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| 22:02.25 | MinceR | i don't know about kde having such functionality (though i might be wrong) but you can do it with ntpd or crony or even ntpdate |
| 22:03.06 | XVampireX | oh |
| 22:03.21 | XVampireX | thanks |
| 22:03.25 | MinceR | np |
| 22:04.17 | XVampireX | MinceR: Does it automatically detect my time zone though? |
| 22:04.29 | XVampireX | I just got ntpd |
| 22:04.45 | XVampireX | don't know how to set it up but when I installed it, it ran the daemon |
| 22:05.17 | MinceR | it doesn't, the system must be set up for that, but most distros do that on install |
| 22:05.32 | XVampireX | where do I configure it |
| 22:05.39 | MinceR | i think ntp syncs UTC time so it doesn't need to know about time zones |
| 22:05.44 | MinceR | that might be distro-dependent |
| 22:05.55 | XVampireX | I'm not GMT +2 as far as I know |
| 22:05.59 | MinceR | but on ubuntu and i think on arch it's /etc/timezone |
| 22:06.01 | XVampireX | not = on |
| 22:06.10 | MinceR | there's probably a utility to choose it on most distros |
| 22:06.19 | MinceR | and you may need a reboot or something to make it take effect |
| 22:06.35 | XVampireX | x reboot or proper? |
| 22:06.56 | MinceR | proper |
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| 22:09.21 | XVampireX | Oh, okey |
| 22:09.25 | XVampireX | will do eventually. |
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| 22:11.09 | XVampireX | I just learned about Kopete being able to handle different encodings per user... that's cool, but it should detect the encoding better, too. |
| 22:11.30 | XVampireX | And kopete tab switching is sluggish as well as how it handles ram (I think it leaks a bit...) |
| 22:14.29 | JesusLovesYou | use something else then |
| 22:14.37 | XVampireX | like what? |
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| 22:33.30 | Sho_ | MinceR: The time&date kcm does have sync options if you start it in admin mode |
| 22:34.51 | XVampireX | What do I do then? |
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| 22:35.23 | Sho_ | KControl -> System Administration -> Date & Time -> Administrator Mode -> [x] Set time and date automatically |
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| 22:36.27 | XVampireX | Unable to contact time server: pool.ntp.org. |
| 22:36.46 | Shirakawasuna | hmm, this is a bit strnage |
| 22:36.53 | Shirakawasuna | *strange |
| 22:36.58 | XVampireX | what is? |
| 22:36.59 | Sho_ | try one of http://ntp.isc.org/bin/view/Servers/NTPPoolServers |
| 22:37.31 | Shirakawasuna | I just trashed my .kde folder (no worries, it's backed up) just to get fresh configs of everything, and I can't seem to find a way to make konqueror's bookmarks toolbar not have massive favicons |
| 22:37.31 | MinceR | i see |
| 22:37.43 | Shirakawasuna | they're 22x22 (poorly resized) when they should be 16x16 |
| 22:38.01 | Sho_ | Shirakawasuna: Right-click the toolbar handle, Icon Size |
| 22:38.01 | MinceR | Sho_: does it do the syncing by itself or does it use a daemon/helper of some sort? |
| 22:38.17 | Sho_ | MinceR: Good question ;) |
| 22:38.37 | Shirakawasuna | Sho_: of course ;). thanks |
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| 22:38.56 | XVampireX | Sho_: Doesn't work :-/ |
| 22:38.58 | Shirakawasuna | either I did that and forgot it a looong time ago or the default changed between 3.5.1 and 3.5.6 |
| 22:39.06 | Sho_ | Shirakawasuna: And if Small isn't 16px in that selection, maybe "Small Icons" on KControl -> Appearance -> Icons -> Advanced is set t osomething else |
| 22:39.18 | Sho_ | XVampireX: Does here, just tried .. |
| 22:39.19 | Shirakawasuna | Sho_: that worked - it had a 16x16 option |
| 22:39.23 | Shirakawasuna | (the right clicking) |
| 22:39.28 | Sho_ | good good |
| 22:39.35 | Shirakawasuna | ah, I also decided to try adding the location bar to the 'main' toolbar, no such luck, though |
| 22:39.42 | XVampireX | I blame it on my router. |
| 22:39.46 | Shirakawasuna | it just doesn't show up, no matter where I try to place one |
| 22:40.01 | Sho_ | Shirakawasuna: Do it the other way around |
| 22:40.17 | Sho_ | Shirakawasuna: Add the stuff from the main toolbar to the location toolbar and hide the main toolbar |
| 22:40.18 | Shirakawasuna | Sho_: that's what I did before :/ |
| 22:40.32 | Shirakawasuna | the downside is that you don't get the handy modular stuff |
| 22:40.36 | Sho_ | Shirakawasuna: The search extension is co-dependant on the location toolbar anyway, so you kinda need to do that anyway if you want it |
| 22:40.46 | Sho_ | Shirakawasuna: So, for a "Single Toolbar" setup go with the location one |
| 22:41.06 | Shirakawasuna | I suppose if I have to :) |
| 22:42.22 | Shirakawasuna | is there a way to add some of the modular stuff to it like the main toolbar? |
| 22:42.33 | Shirakawasuna | where it picks up on konqueror's kpart changes and such |
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| 22:46.08 | XVampireX | Anyone here has any idea about what sflack is all about? |
| 22:46.41 | Shirakawasuna | alright, now to figure out how to remove that search plugin... |
| 22:47.16 | Shirakawasuna | I could've sworn there was a super-easy way |
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| 22:47.30 | wolsni | Shirakawasuna: settings->configure extensions |
| 22:47.35 | wolsni | it is pretty easy |
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| 22:50.50 | Agiofws | hello |
| 22:51.11 | Agiofws | IS there or could there be any packet that is not letting KDE to shut down nad frezzingthe system ? |
| 22:55.42 | dealer | uh, what kdeenablefinal flag does? |
| 22:56.09 | Gentle | dealer: that's a gentoo question |
| 22:56.12 | qupada | like 300-500% more memory usage during compiling for a theoretical 10% or so speed increase |
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| 22:56.51 | dealer | Gentle: is the --enable-final, isn't it? |
| 22:56.58 | Gentle | yes |
| 22:57.14 | dealer | Gentle: what's --enable-final does? |
| 22:57.22 | qupada | dealer: i just told you |
| 22:57.30 | Gentle | qupada described it correctly |
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| 22:57.59 | qupada | and if you want my opinion, it's better to leave it off unless you have more than 1GB of physical ram |
| 22:58.04 | qupada | because it WILL start swapping |
| 22:58.11 | hydrogen | technically |
| 22:58.19 | hydrogen | what it does is combine all the code into one file |
| 22:58.22 | hydrogen | before compiling it |
| 22:59.20 | dealer | qupada: sorry i didn't see |
| 22:59.47 | dealer | the 10% of increase is in the compilation process or running the kde? |
| 22:59.54 | qupada | compile time |
| 23:00.09 | qupada | as in takes about 10% less time to compile... theoretically |
| 23:00.10 | dealer | just it? eheh |
| 23:00.29 | dealer | just the kdepim uses more ram.. |
| 23:00.35 | qupada | because if you hit the limit of your physical memory and it starts paging to disk like a mofo, it will end up taking a lot longer |
| 23:00.45 | dealer | i have kdeenablefinal to the rest.. and sounds nice to compile |
| 23:00.50 | qupada | yeah, kmail is the worst one |
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| 23:01.22 | dealer | just kmail? |
| 23:01.53 | qupada | as far as i can tell. there may be others, but once my system got laggy and unresponsive compiling kmail i went away to do something else |
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| 23:19.46 | delaril | hi, if I set konqueror's view mode to "tree view", "info list view", "detailed list view" or "text view" and drag the mouse to select multiple items, konqueror crashes. is this a known bug? I tried searching for it, but I couldn't find anything informative |
| 23:20.49 | Nyle | qupada whats up man |
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| 23:21.07 | Nyle | man i love your nickname qupada |
| 23:21.12 | Nyle | its friggin awesome |
| 23:21.27 | qupada | hey stoned |
| 23:21.47 | Nyle | qupada: what happened to renze man? |
| 23:21.57 | Nyle | you know? |
| 23:22.07 | qupada | dunno, haven't heard from him in a while actually |
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| 23:23.17 | Nyle | hey check this out |
| 23:23.18 | Nyle | http://alexplorer.net/guitar/basics/manwoman.jpg |
| 23:23.32 | Nyle | this is hilarious.. was reading a gutiar modding site |
| 23:23.33 | Nyle | hehe |
| 23:23.48 | qupada | seen that one before |
| 23:23.56 | Nyle | thats one helluva way to say women are too damn complex |
| 23:24.06 | Nyle | the more you think you know them, the less you know them |
| 23:24.34 | qupada | the funny thing is, a good amplifier should only have a power switch like that. everything else is the pre-amp's job |
| 23:24.41 | qupada | the whole do one job and do it well thing |
| 23:25.36 | Nyle | I just finished scalloping half my neck of the strat |
| 23:25.56 | Nyle | soon as I finish it I will take off all the paint |
| 23:26.10 | Nyle | sand it down and give it a wood look, finish it off with murphy's oil polish |
| 23:26.34 | Nyle | then redo the pickups and remove the pickguard and get a clear plexiglass and hook that up on there |
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| 23:26.56 | Nyle | i bought it for 150 usd, and when im done with it, it will be worth hundreds |
| 23:26.58 | qupada | perspex? really? |
| 23:27.21 | Nyle | perspex/ |
| 23:27.24 | Nyle | english please |
| 23:27.25 | Nyle | :) |
| 23:27.57 | Alethes | I can't stand scalloped necks |
| 23:28.14 | Nyle | Alethes: it takes time to get used to but once you do... amazing control |
| 23:28.16 | qupada | i call it perspex. english people call it acrylic. you call it plexiglass. i'm just commenting about how you're doing all this work on the wood, then using clear plastic? |
| 23:28.22 | Nyle | almost no fingertip/fretboard friction |
| 23:28.32 | Alethes | Nyle: I have a friend with a nice jackson, but it's scalloped and I can't stand it |
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| 23:29.03 | Nyle | my favorite guitar to play is the one I bought the first time i started |
| 23:29.11 | Nyle | BC Rich, KKV |
| 23:29.21 | Nyle | slayer's guitarists kerry king's signature series flying V |
| 23:29.23 | Nyle | oldschool |
| 23:29.33 | Nyle | the tone is amazing, it playes really well |
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| 23:29.49 | Nyle | i have no scalloped necks i just want one |
| 23:30.03 | Nyle | I played one at my friends house all the time when iwent there |
| 23:30.05 | Nyle | i love it |
| 23:30.12 | Alethes | cool |
| 23:30.29 | Nyle | I'm also going to take my les paul 1971 custom and take out the metal frets |
| 23:30.40 | Nyle | then lacqour up the fretboard so its smooth |
| 23:30.52 | Alethes | cool |
| 23:30.55 | Nyle | still have equal temperament fret markings, but without the limitation of frets |
| 23:31.07 | Nyle | that way i can play modal music like classical indian from my part of the world |
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| 23:31.15 | Nyle | microtonal |
| 23:31.17 | Alethes | yeah, that's cool |
| 23:31.35 | Alethes | microtonal stuff is hard to deal with if your ear isn't trained for it |
| 23:31.43 | Alethes | (like most people in the west) |
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| 23:31.53 | Nyle | I have almost absolute pitch |
| 23:32.05 | Alethes | cool |
| 23:32.13 | kdepepo | hi |
| 23:32.17 | Nyle | hi |
| 23:32.21 | dauoalagio2 | hello for some reason i can't edit more than the default panel. when i create a new one it goes but when i right click configure it only allows me to edit the first one |
| 23:32.41 | Nyle | dauoalagio2: there is a dropdown that will let you select which panel to edit |
| 23:32.47 | Nyle | in the kcontrol desktop panel |
| 23:32.48 | Alethes | dauoalagio2: select the other ones in the drop down list |
| 23:32.50 | dauoalagio2 | Nyle, it's not there |
| 23:33.01 | Alethes | heh, then you're not using kde |
| 23:33.03 | Alethes | :P |
| 23:33.20 | Nyle | dauoalagio2: it should show up |
| 23:33.35 | Nyle | dauoalagio2: close any other panel config things.. add a new panel, go to kcontrol desktop panels |
| 23:33.42 | Nyle | see if you see it in the dropdown |
| 23:34.14 | dauoalagio2 | Nyle, there it is :) |
| 23:34.27 | Alethes | good job putting it there, Nyle ;) |
| 23:34.34 | Nyle | :) |
| 23:35.36 | dauoalagio2 | apparently you have to go through kcontrol |
| 23:35.36 | dauoalagio2 | how lame |
| 23:35.36 | Nyle | not always |
| 23:35.36 | Nyle | but if the panel config box is open for one panel, another panel can't be edited |
| 23:35.36 | dauoalagio2 | everything was closed |
| 23:35.48 | Nyle | if you go through kcontrol, you can edit all panels through dropdown |
| 23:36.16 | Nyle | if you right click and edit panel, then only that particular panel can be edited. if you try to edit another at the same time it will say panel config window already open |
| 23:36.41 | dauoalagio2 | oh okay |
| 23:36.46 | dauoalagio2 | well here's another one for ya |
| 23:36.57 | Nyle | bring it on panel boy |
| 23:36.59 | Nyle | ;) |
| 23:37.11 | dauoalagio2 | i want a system tray on my new panel |
| 23:38.01 | Nyle | right click panel, panel menu > add applet to panel |
| 23:38.17 | Nyle | scroll down the resulting dialog window and double click the system tray |
| 23:38.54 | dauoalagio2 | not there! |
| 23:39.02 | Nyle | is it already added on another panel? |
| 23:39.06 | dauoalagio2 | yes |
| 23:39.10 | Nyle | remove it from the first panel and then add it on the second |
| 23:39.12 | dauoalagio2 | dang you smart |
| 23:39.13 | Nyle | you can't have 2 |
| 23:39.35 | dauoalagio2 | there it is |
| 23:40.21 | Nyle | i got sick of using kde |
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| 23:40.26 | Nyle | plus kde and beryl never worked for me |
| 23:40.30 | Nyle | so I use xfce and beryl |
| 23:40.33 | dauoalagio2 | oh |
| 23:40.39 | Nyle | I still have my main desktop with kde 3.5.5 |
| 23:40.42 | dauoalagio2 | i have a Geforce4 MX 440 |
| 23:40.46 | dauoalagio2 | kinda afraid to use Beryl with it |
| 23:40.57 | Nyle | if it is supported you can run beryl |
| 23:41.00 | Nyle | check with #beryl |
| 23:41.04 | Nyle | or beryl wiki |
| 23:41.05 | Nyle | etc. |
| 23:41.07 | dauoalagio2 | it just sucks though |
| 23:41.10 | dauoalagio2 | slow and everything |
| 23:41.23 | dauoalagio2 | i ran on ubuntu (on arch now) and it just wasn't that much fun |
| 23:41.29 | Nyle | ugh.. ubuntu is slow by nature |
| 23:41.33 | Nyle | ubuntu is the xp of linux |
| 23:41.34 | Nyle | imo |
| 23:41.38 | dauoalagio2 | yeah i know |
| 23:41.42 | dauoalagio2 | Arch Linux is so tight |
| 23:41.46 | dauoalagio2 | so i might give it a try |
| 23:41.51 | Nyle | debian is what i use and I love it |
| 23:42.01 | dauoalagio2 | i used Beryl/XFCE on a faster computer and it was so nice |
| 23:42.02 | Nyle | I have 4 debian boxes |
| 23:42.12 | Nyle | 2 laptops, two desktops.. and 3 servers running debian sarge |
| 23:42.13 | Nyle | :D |
| 23:42.16 | dauoalagio2 | hehe |
| 23:42.18 | Nyle | 7 debia machines |
| 23:42.29 | dauoalagio2 | i'll run over to #beryl to see what they have |
| 23:42.33 | dauoalagio2 | about my card |
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| 23:44.21 | dauoalagio2 | they said it would be really good. |
| 23:44.23 | dauoalagio2 | i'll try it |
| 23:44.59 | Nyle | cool, good luck |
| 23:45.10 | dauoalagio2 | Thanks, bye now |
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| 23:50.06 | pingveno | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:50.11 | redtricycle | I'm trying to config mp3unicode1.1.1 and it can't find QtCore after I installed qt4. |
| 23:50.20 | redtricycle | What's wrong with this: QtCore_LIBS=/usr/lib ./configure --prefix=/usr --sysconfdir=/etc --localstatedir=/var |
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| 23:51.05 | pingveno | Did I join in the middle of a conversation? |
| 23:51.17 | redtricycle | pingveno, you can go into your collection options |
| 23:51.19 | redtricycle | and uncheck it |
| 23:51.31 | redtricycle | Go into preferences->Collection |
| 23:51.34 | redtricycle | you should see something |
| 23:52.42 | pingveno | Yeah, it allows me to uncheck things, but it's inside of a directory that I want scanned recursively |
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| 23:53.51 | redtricycle | But, wouldn't your other folders stay? |
| 23:53.57 | redtricycle | Like, the top level is unchecked |
| 23:54.01 | redtricycle | but you'll have every other folder checked |
| 23:54.36 | pingveno | I suppose I *could* do that, but it would nix some of the benefits of automatically updates ;-) |
| 23:54.44 | pingveno | Well, recursive updates |
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| 23:55.25 | pingveno | *shrug* |
| 23:55.33 | pingveno | I'll just go with your solution |
| 23:55.39 | kdepepo | I d just move sound effects out of the "music" folder |
| 23:56.48 | pingveno | redtricycle: With QtCore, are you having problems finding the .so? |
| 23:57.16 | pingveno | mine is /usr/lib/libQtCore.so |
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| 23:58.00 | pingveno | Or, to be more precise, libQtCore.so.4.2.3 |
