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| 00:03.54 | wolsni | Daemoen: for some reason it doesn't update when you add or remove a panel |
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| 00:04.25 | wolsni | Daemoen: if you restart kicker it should show up |
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| 00:05.17 | livingtm | Anyone here able to help me with some kbluetooth q's? |
| 00:07.55 | wolsni | livingtm: you'll be more likely to get help if you go ahead and ask |
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| 00:09.12 | livingtm | wolsni, unless theres noone with bluetooth experience in here :-) I have a headset that I cant "discover" with kbluetoothd. even after entering the hardware address in the device discovery config |
| 00:10.09 | Daemoen | ahh, thank you wolsni :) |
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| 00:10.38 | wolsni | Daemoen: dcop kicker kicker restart |
| 00:11.16 | livingtm | wolsni, is there a better chanel for kbluetooth Q's/ |
| 00:11.56 | Alethes | :D |
| 00:12.29 | wolsni | livingtm: not sure, does the project page list contact info? |
| 00:12.33 | Daemoen | if my inquiry came off firm i apologize, was more a nagging curiousity |
| 00:13.03 | wolsni | Daemoen: you were fine :) |
| 00:16.31 | livingtm | http://bluetooth.kmobiletools.org/ <--- not overly helpful |
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| 00:17.51 | wolsni | <PROTECTED> |
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| 00:18.47 | livingtm | wolsni, with 0 posts... |
| 00:18.59 | wolsni | livingtm: so? |
| 00:19.04 | livingtm | hehe |
| 00:19.23 | livingtm | i bet all the devs are sitting there hittin refresh just waiting for a post... |
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| 00:20.04 | livingtm | wolsni, i take it you dont use bluetooth |
| 00:21.07 | Skrot- | Well, if kbluetooth doesn't discover the device (but can discover other BT devices), the underlying discovery layer probably can't find it, which probably means; linux doesn't support the device..? |
| 00:21.15 | wolsni | the only bluetooth device I have is an interlink remote |
| 00:21.46 | Skrot- | I think kbluetooth uses bluez :> |
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| 00:22.17 | livingtm | Skrot-, yeah.. noone answering questions in bluez, and im not sure if my problem is in the kdebluetooth layer or the bluez layer |
| 00:22.27 | wolsni | which as far as I can tell will require some hacking to get working, so I've been putting it off |
| 00:22.35 | livingtm | noone's answering qustions in #kmobiletools either |
| 00:22.53 | Skrot- | livingtm: Im sure there are some commands you can use in the BlueZ-package |
| 00:22.58 | livingtm | wolsni, yeah thats why i decided to pop in the IRC and see who else has hacked at it |
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| 00:23.28 | wolsni | livingtm: the problem probably is with the bluez stuff though |
| 00:23.49 | Skrot- | indeed |
| 00:23.53 | livingtm | wolsni, could be |
| 00:24.01 | wolsni | my remote is unsupported but bluez does detect it |
| 00:24.07 | livingtm | I have two earpieces.. one pairs, the other one wont |
| 00:24.31 | wolsni | similar to an unsupported USB device |
| 00:24.58 | livingtm | people on forums i've googled say they have had my earpice paired.. mine doesnt seem to though |
| 00:25.38 | livingtm | i get an error: "QFile::open: No file name specified" |
| 00:26.00 | wolsni | I get the impression that kmobiletools is more for syncing phones than general device management anyway |
| 00:26.09 | Skrot- | it is |
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| 00:26.39 | Skrot- | atleast it was the last time I tried it |
| 00:26.55 | livingtm | but kbluetoothd appears to do the pairing |
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| 00:28.07 | tuxick | maybe just a crappy device? |
| 00:28.20 | tuxick | or needs resetting? |
| 00:28.21 | livingtm | tuxick, could be |
| 00:29.39 | tuxick | so far i've got kbluepin pop up when a device wanted to pair |
| 00:29.58 | tuxick | but not really using it much |
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| 00:55.50 | XVampireX | There's this silly person on digg talking silly things about KDE4 :P |
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| 00:56.00 | XVampireX | HerbertScrunge |
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| 01:08.33 | kdepepo | hi |
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| 01:32.43 | keylocker | hello all! |
| 01:32.53 | keylocker | im getting a problem with kubuntu and beryl |
| 01:32.58 | keylocker | this is the message |
| 01:33.02 | keylocker | KDE seems to be already running on this display. |
| 01:33.05 | keylocker | what can i do: |
| 01:33.28 | BloodyTux | #kubuntu |
| 01:33.34 | BloodyTux | or #beryl |
| 01:34.35 | keylocker | BloodyTux: noone of these want to helpme |
| 01:34.39 | keylocker | ive asked after |
| 01:34.43 | keylocker | searched the google |
| 01:34.51 | keylocker | notting about this issue and beryl |
| 01:35.29 | Jucato | #ubuntu-effects is another channel |
| 01:35.52 | Jucato | and I doubt that they don't *want* to help you. some just might not know what to do |
| 01:36.01 | Jucato | (not everyone knows everything) |
| 01:36.24 | keylocker | Jucato: i know this, in most part of my time on irc, i help people |
| 01:36.38 | keylocker | Jucato: but tell RTFM, when i say ive searched on google |
| 01:36.51 | keylocker | for me is dont *want* |
| 01:37.54 | BloodyTux | goto #kubuntu and ask again |
| 01:38.00 | BloodyTux | then try #beryl |
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| 01:38.58 | keylocker | ¬¬ |
| 01:39.26 | BloodyTux | just do it, you never know |
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| 01:58.31 | sam_ | does anyone know how to set in config .the number of desktops to start with? |
| 01:58.48 | sam_ | used kcontrol to set to 4 but each time i log in it's set to 2 |
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| 02:02.43 | wolsni | ~/.kde/share/config/kwinrc |
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| 02:05.19 | sam_ | wolsni: thanks...i see [Desktops] etc...should i then add in two more if there are only two in teh file? |
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| 02:16.31 | linuxbomb | How can I seriously tweak out konqueror? |
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| 02:17.27 | vdv | hi all |
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| 02:21.09 | johny | quit |
| 02:21.37 | wolsni | http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php/tweaK?content=51170 |
| 02:21.54 | wolsni | linuxbomb: that's for you |
| 02:22.23 | wolsni | man this is an odd beverage |
| 02:22.26 | linuxbomb | wolsni, I was looking for a way to add right click menus stuff like that |
| 02:22.33 | wolsni | ah |
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| 02:23.14 | wolsni | then you should google konqueror service menus |
| 02:24.34 | Jucato | http://developer.kde.org/documentation/tutorials/dot/servicemenus.html |
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| 02:25.26 | wolsni | or let Jucato do it for you |
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| 02:25.35 | wolsni | way to be less lazy than me, man |
| 02:26.08 | Jucato | I have it bookmarked |
| 02:27.50 | wolsni | oh no! |
| 02:29.03 | Jucato | O.o |
| 02:29.08 | Jucato | hm... tea... |
| 02:29.33 | canllaith | my teeth hurt :( |
| 02:30.14 | Jucato | yours too? :( |
| 02:30.28 | Jucato | (my "tooth" hurts...) |
| 02:30.31 | canllaith | I just went to the dentist and she drilled my teeth :( |
| 02:30.37 | Jucato | ouch... |
| 02:30.43 | Jucato | I still need to see a dentist... |
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| 02:34.00 | d4rk3y35 | What can i use to conver mp3 to wav |
| 02:34.16 | wolsni | sox |
| 02:34.23 | wolsni | audacity |
| 02:34.38 | wolsni | mencoder, i think |
| 02:34.46 | Jucato | ugh... ODT... :)( |
| 02:34.47 | Jucato | :( |
| 02:34.54 | linuxbomb | mp321 |
| 02:35.21 | d4rk3y35 | thanks |
| 02:35.25 | wolsni | Jucato: the file format? |
| 02:35.50 | Jucato | wolsni: yeah... sorry offtopic outburst :) |
| 02:36.19 | wolsni | you're apologizing to me for that? |
| 02:36.27 | Jucato | :) |
| 02:36.34 | wolsni | after my bubble tea musings? |
| 02:37.01 | Jucato | at least you didn't break an ongoing mp3 to wav thread :) |
| 02:37.31 | wolsni | yeah, I thought you meant that was a utility |
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| 03:19.47 | vdv | hi all |
| 03:20.08 | holy-cow | ah finally some chat |
| 03:20.18 | holy-cow | can i start telling you about how much i like kde? |
| 03:20.20 | holy-cow | -_- |
| 03:20.28 | vdv | i have a problem |
| 03:20.46 | holy-cow | lol i'll try and answser |
| 03:20.47 | holy-cow | just ask |
| 03:20.50 | holy-cow | no promises tho |
| 03:21.27 | vdv | when i start konqueror it starts but /etc/profile file not sourced |
| 03:22.19 | vdv | sorry :) |
| 03:22.19 | vdv | konsole |
| 03:22.23 | Jucato | ah |
| 03:22.53 | Jucato | maybe you have a ~/.bash_profile that overrides /etc/profile? |
| 03:23.02 | vdv | i even start konsole with -ls option |
| 03:23.09 | vdv | no, i haven't |
| 03:24.01 | vdv | and with --type shell option too |
| 03:24.13 | Jucato | hm... |
| 03:26.22 | canllaith | There is a KDE faq about asking questions to point people to wolsni :) |
| 03:26.47 | Jucato | heh :) |
| 03:27.10 | wolsni | vdv: if you run a new instance of bash in konsole then does it do the right thing? |
| 03:27.27 | wolsni | canllaith: oh, I didn't know that :) |
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| 03:28.04 | canllaith | wolsni: http://docs.kde.org/stable/en/kdebase/faq/questions.html |
| 03:28.58 | wolsni | cool, thanks canllaith |
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| 03:33.05 | vdv | no, it doesn't |
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| 03:34.25 | wolsni | vdv: bash --login, then? |
| 03:35.18 | Jucato | hm... but shouldn't /etc/profile be sourced at user login, not on konsole startup? |
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| 03:36.38 | wolsni | maybe vdv's profile defines some aliases or something, it might not carry |
| 03:36.42 | SAS_Spidey01 | is there a way to make some thing other then kwrite the default for *most* files w/o having to change a ton of file associations? |
| 03:37.54 | Jucato | SAS_Spidey01: unfortunately, I don't think the current File Associations system does that |
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| 03:38.35 | SAS_Spidey01 | I know in Windows its possible to set a program to open uknown file types but thats not my working env. |
| 03:39.02 | wolsni | you could probably work out a sed script for the .desktop files |
| 03:40.03 | SAS_Spidey01 | Well, its no real loss I guess... |
| 03:40.51 | SAS_Spidey01 | I normally have a shell open 24/7 any way |
| 03:41.21 | wolsni | anyway, 'unknown' files should mean "random binary junk" so you wouldn't want to use a text editor anyway |
| 03:42.40 | oneforall | just wondering iof any one is using kde/compiz and wow |
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| 03:47.26 | SAS_Spidey01 | hmm, setting application/octet-stream to vim or emacs might net the behavior I want, not sure |
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| 03:48.11 | wolsni | SAS_Spidey01: easy enough to find out :) |
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| 03:50.10 | SAS_Spidey01 | *sigh* oh well |
| 03:51.23 | SAS_Spidey01 | looks like the only way is to change a bunch of them |
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| 03:52.39 | SAS_Spidey01 | at least its seems to be working with any thing file calls ascii text after changing the .txt/.TXT association |
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| 03:56.23 | wolsni | that's what I was getting at a minute ago |
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| 04:00.43 | SAS_Spidey01 | I see your point |
| 04:02.04 | SAS_Spidey01 | Although I didn't know ottomh that it would use that association w/o the registored filename patterns |
| 04:02.39 | wolsni | nope, it looks at magic numbers and such |
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| 04:04.00 | SAS_Spidey01 | hopefully using the same files as /usr/bin/file |
| 04:04.14 | wolsni | I would assume so |
| 04:04.39 | SAS_Spidey01 | I don't see why it wouldn't but I know a good way to test how good it might be hehe |
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| 04:10.58 | wolsni | amarok? |
| 04:11.06 | wolsni | kid3? |
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| 04:19.19 | nick01 | koffice still doesn't compile with -ffast-math ? |
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| 04:34.49 | geo-rge | Hi. I'm running debian etch (not updated too recently, definitely not to stable)... |
| 04:34.55 | Jucato | nick01: try asking in #koffice |
| 04:35.00 | nick01 | ok |
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| 04:35.07 | geo-rge | and |
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| 04:35.41 | chealer | geo-rge: keep going... |
| 04:36.29 | geo-rge | I'm trying to find out about arts, specifically can I have a jack audio connection kit as a layer "below" arts and have arts use jack connections (so that I could do things like tap into and record, etc) |
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| 04:38.20 | geo-rge | given arts is core sound system for kde, can I make jack be surrounding core system |
| 04:39.28 | geo-rge | also I'm (as you can see :) not so familiar with arts, and I suppose I need/want to find out more about it |
| 04:44.20 | geo-rge | ideally, if the arts creates a new audio connection pipe, I would like it to create a jack pipe... that way I could do multitracking |
| 04:44.45 | geo-rge | with something like ardour |
| 04:45.10 | geo-rge | clothes done |
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| 05:19.39 | Jucato | ugh why is koffice crashy on gentoo... :( |
| 05:19.40 | Jucato | (ugh! wrong channel to rant in...) |
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| 05:19.47 | neophyte_vii | hola =] using konqueror 3.5.5 and looking for advice on a file-management bug |
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| 05:19.48 | neophyte_vii | in detailed-list view the background picture produces some nasty graphical artifacts |
| 05:19.48 | neophyte_vii | searched kde-bug forums and this was recognized as having been fixed in 2002.. |
| 05:19.48 | neophyte_vii | has anyone else experienced the issue of a detailed-list causing segments of the background image to redraw? |
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| 05:27.39 | nick01 | in what file is the konqueror window size set ? |
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| 05:29.33 | nick01 | deleting konquerorrc doesnt go back to the normal konq file manager size |
| 05:29.45 | nick01 | where are the konqueror profiles stored ? |
| 05:32.52 | nick01 | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:32.58 | nick01 | using konqueror as web browser changed the size as file manager too deleting that file then saving the file manager profile fixed it |
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| 05:34.44 | nick01 | heh maybe restarting KDE will do it |
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| 05:51.06 | EruditeHermit | hey, does anyone know how to get the Voice trigger to work with khotkeys? |
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| 06:08.16 | ilyak | On this morning gmail ceased to work in konqueror :( |
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| 06:11.17 | Desintegr | works here |
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| 06:11.19 | ilyak | Desintegr: version? |
| 06:11.19 | Desintegr | french |
| 06:11.19 | ilyak | I mean, konqueror's |
| 06:11.19 | Desintegr | ah :) |
| 06:11.20 | Desintegr | 3.5.6 |
| 06:11.20 | ilyak | And do you use AJAX or simple interface? |
| 06:11.20 | Desintegr | AJAX |
| 06:11.20 | ilyak | Oh, I've got 3.5.5 |
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| 06:19.38 | Desintegr | ilyak: and gmail version lay differ, that depends on the language used |
| 06:19.45 | Desintegr | may* |
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| 06:22.43 | ilyak | Desintegr: I use russian, I can try english. |
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| 06:26.39 | linracoon | how can i see wich are the folders that are part of the xdg menu structure? |
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| 06:34.56 | jujimufu | hey, can anyone help me set up my printer? |
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| 06:35.53 | mardi | jujimufu: first: take it out of the box |
| 06:36.06 | mardi | then remove any packing materials |
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| 06:39.12 | jujimufu | mardi ? |
| 06:39.31 | jujimufu | mardi: I mean set it up on KDE |
| 06:39.32 | jujimufu | >_> |
| 06:39.32 | jujimufu | <_< |
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| 06:40.01 | mardi | oh oh ok, can't help ya there. I have an HP and it set up quick smart |
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| 06:40.19 | jujimufu | well, I have an HP too |
| 06:40.26 | jujimufu | but kde didn't set it up automatically. |
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| 06:40.37 | jujimufu | although it does recognise it, if I am not mistaken. But the test page is not printed. |
| 06:40.51 | mardi | ooh ok, i had to get some drivers from the repos, hplij or something |
| 06:40.53 | myah | where are kmenu submenus located or their information? |
| 06:41.41 | jujimufu | myah: you can edit the kmenu by right-clicking on an object on the kmenu and clicking on "edit menu" |
| 06:42.15 | jujimufu | myah, at the KDE menu editor you can edit menus and submenus, their icons, commands etc etc |
| 06:42.27 | jujimufu | with a graphical interface, no need for command lines. |
| 06:42.36 | mardi | jujimufu: hplip and hpijs, i have installed |
| 06:42.53 | jujimufu | mardi: thanks. So I just install these and it should work? |
| 06:43.01 | mardi | did for me! |
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| 06:43.07 | jujimufu | mardi: distro? |
| 06:43.08 | mardi | dunno about you, i hope so |
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| 06:43.16 | mardi | kubuntu 6.10 |
| 06:43.25 | jujimufu | mardi: almost same here, kubuntu 7.04 |
| 06:43.31 | jujimufu | upgraded yesterday |
| 06:43.34 | mardi | i have one of those scanner, printer, faxer thingies tho, everything works |
| 06:43.40 | jujimufu | oh, I only have a printer |
| 06:43.44 | jujimufu | so it shouldn't be too hard |
| 06:43.49 | mardi | arrr! |
| 06:44.46 | myah | jujimufu: yes, I understand this. I have been using kde a long time but don't really understand its inner workings... |
| 06:45.28 | myah | what I mean is.. are there actual folders for the submenus with symlinks inside to .desktops? If so, where? I would imagine it is just an xml file with the info, though. In which case, where is the xml file? |
| 06:45.29 | jujimufu | myah: I want to get rid of a fully-bloated kde environment. I want to make something like pocket-linux's desktop manager, which consists of openbox, kdesktop and fbpanel. It looks very light and compact. |
| 06:45.56 | myah | jujimufu: why did you tell me that? sounds interesting though. |
| 06:46.14 | jujimufu | myah: sorry, I thought you were mardi just talking in general about kde and stuff, lol |
| 06:46.22 | jujimufu | myah: oh, and I haven't even bothered looking in the inner workings of KDE either. |
| 06:46.24 | jujimufu | I just use it. |
| 06:46.34 | myah | xfwm4 for lightweight for me :P. I really like the look of icewm but it doesn't work properly for me. Should investigate further |
| 06:47.45 | jujimufu | nah, I don't particularly like icewm |
| 06:47.49 | jujimufu | I did like, though, enlightenment |
| 06:48.07 | jujimufu | but it was way too complicated for my likes |
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| 07:01.07 | myah | enlightenment is beautiful but it is stupidly designed |
| 07:01.12 | myah | I would never be able to use it |
| 07:01.26 | myah | so far KDE and XFCE are unbeatable. Others are good but man... |
| 07:01.59 | myah | KDE is just so easy. It is EXACTLY how you would want when you want to change settings. It is VERY easy to learn. |
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| 07:02.16 | myah | and XFCE is so fast and small yet still beautiful and customisable |
| 07:03.00 | myah | what I do, is I installed KDE and prune out the crap I don't want. Then I install XFCE and load all of the stuff that I like from KDE into XFCE and use it |
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| 07:03.19 | myah | except when others want to use the computer I switch back to KDE because it is easy for them |
| 07:04.33 | myah | since it takes minutes to learn. Everything is where it would make sense for it to be. |
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| 07:06.24 | jujimufu | myah: I wanna try that custom-kde-lite thing I mentioned before |
| 07:06.28 | jujimufu | I'll get you a screenshot to see how it looks like |
| 07:06.34 | myah | cool |
| 07:07.05 | myah | as long as it is fast and pretty and simple |
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| 07:07.55 | jujimufu | myah: here -> http://gnulinux.de/pocketlinux/images/Screenshot1.png |
| 07:08.07 | myah | see I really admire how simple they made gnome. Everything is just there in front of you. It takes two clicks to do something. Unfortunately though, it is just plain ugly and slow. |
| 07:08.26 | duvnell | anyone know where the code is that parses a .desktop file? |
| 07:08.30 | myah | You are german? |
| 07:09.00 | mardi | no whiz bang floating windows and effects?!? |
| 07:09.02 | myah | Do ONE thing for me: change the colour of the panel to a lighter blue or a nice green or purple |
| 07:09.32 | myah | if you do that then, wow, it looks really nice. |
| 07:09.46 | mardi | yeh, gray is so 80's |
| 07:09.48 | myah | I'd kill KDE for this light KDE. |
| 07:10.34 | myah | lol 80's is cool. I must be the only one who thinks that. :P Maybe it is because I didn't live through the 80s |
| 07:11.09 | mardi | i lived through the 80's, you didn't miss much... |
| 07:13.58 | myah | ah okay |
| 07:14.18 | mardi | no mobile phones, internet (for me anyways), i remember when ATMs were the new bright and shiney |
| 07:14.37 | mardi | how did we survive.... |
| 07:16.28 | myah | lol |
| 07:17.36 | myah | I'd hate to have no internet or modern computer |
| 07:18.46 | duvnell | I remember when computers would beep |
| 07:19.16 | duvnell | WOW |
| 07:19.38 | mardi | hehe |
| 07:19.39 | duvnell | high AND low beeps |
| 07:19.40 | myah | but other than that... screw 00 |
| 07:19.41 | myah | <90s looked so much better |
| 07:21.39 | mardi | yes, i had a pager... |
| 07:21.39 | myah | better comedies, unlike the american unfunny crap |
| 07:21.40 | myah | better music |
| 07:21.44 | Shirakawasuna | myah: you aren't looking hard enough ;) |
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| 07:21.46 | Shirakawasuna | indie labels have lots of good stuff |
| 07:21.48 | Shirakawasuna | http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/5421/snapshot3po4.png |
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| 07:21.54 | myah | louis jordan is the best musician ever |
| 07:21.54 | myah | no modern crappy music can beat him |
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| 07:51.22 | Mornx | http://newshappenings.blogspot.com/2007/05/even-church-doesnt-like-mpaa.html bahaha |
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| 07:53.59 | soop | stupid question: How can I add Items/locations to the system menu popup on the status bar? |
| 07:54.23 | soop | i dont even think its the system menu pop |
| 07:54.55 | soop | its the little kubuntu computer icon that displays users folders, remote places, home folder, and desktop |
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| 08:19.59 | jujimufu | I have three keyboard layouts on KDE, all installed and running. However, I would like to switch layouts without having to click on the tray icon, just by pressing left Shift+Alt, for example (like in windows). How do I set this up? |
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| 08:23.28 | borso | hey. in gnome there is an application named gdmflexiserver that allows to login in a nested window. is there a similar app for kde? or can I use the same? |
| 08:23.40 | soop | you can use the same |
| 08:23.44 | soop | hopefully |
| 08:23.48 | soop | it should work |
| 08:25.54 | borso | okey. I'll try |
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| 08:53.06 | gemidjy2 | anyone has idea on how to make the feature Safari has (and Firefox with extension) which makes the stop/reload button one same? |
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| 08:57.13 | funkyou | gemidjy2: kubuntu has a patch for doing that, if i remember correctly |
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| 09:06.15 | myah | hi guys |
| 09:06.20 | myah | where are the kde icons kepts? |
| 09:06.43 | myah | (eg; the one for Development, the one for Edutainment, etc, etc.) |
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| 09:06.52 | myah | the ones for applications.. |
| 09:06.56 | myah | all of them |
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| 09:17.47 | Laban | Is there a javascript debug console in Konqueror such as in Mozilla or should I take it in Venkman? |
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| 09:20.35 | myah | you know the neat little app that pops up when you want to change an icon? |
| 09:20.42 | myah | and you get a list of icons to choose? |
| 09:21.00 | myah | can you tell me where to get ALL of those icons please? |
| 09:22.22 | c-101 | maybe /usr/share/icons ? |
| 09:22.23 | c-101 | it depends on the distribution you are using |
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| 09:24.06 | myah | I compiled KDE using portage |
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| 09:24.20 | myah | yeah, most of the apps are from gentoo |
| 09:24.24 | myah | some are slackware binaries |
| 09:25.33 | myah | /usr/share/icons doesn't seem to have many |
| 09:26.35 | Shirakawasuna | whoah - someone try using konqueror to browse a wikipedia article |
| 09:26.46 | Shirakawasuna | mine's all messed up, firefox and opera do fine |
| 09:27.03 | myah | nope... Konqueror works fine |
| 09:27.24 | myah | how come when I am in the middle of a search in konqueror and press stop it crashes? |
| 09:27.33 | myah | or open something in the results it crashes? |
| 09:27.37 | myah | it is really annoying |
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| 09:32.29 | myah | well where are KDE icons? |
| 09:32.35 | myah | ones for konqueror and such |
| 09:35.37 | Fri13 | myah: user icons are in .kde/share/icons/<theme> |
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| 09:41.06 | bentob0x | Anybody knows a good FTP client for KDE? |
| 09:41.31 | bentob0x | some software that will keep on trying to upload if it looses the connection for instance |
| 09:42.08 | bentob0x | I have tried kasablanca and using the ftp features of konqueror and I'm not happy with neither of them |
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| 09:52.14 | Tm_T | bentob0x: and excatly what is wrong in Konqueror for example? |
| 09:52.45 | larrythecow | know any more places where there are icons? |
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| 09:53.42 | bentob0x | when I get a connection error, it won't remember which file it did or did not upload Tm_T |
| 09:53.54 | bentob0x | appart from that, I really like using Konqueror |
| 09:54.20 | bentob0x | but when I upload a full website, I'd like something that will auto-reconnect and keep track of what I have uploaded and what didn't work |
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| 10:27.46 | vbgunz | is there a really great photo maanger out there for KDE? |
| 10:28.02 | vbgunz | s/maanger/manager |
| 10:28.23 | Jucato | Digikam |
| 10:29.25 | vbgunz | Jucato: sorry, I jumped the gun here. I do have digiKam but bypassed it so many times, I forgot to check for it :/ |
| 10:29.34 | Jucato | :) |
| 10:29.41 | vbgunz | thanks :) |
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| 10:30.15 | Trixsey | is KDE4 alpha/beta out? |
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| 10:30.34 | Tm_T | Trixsey: IIRC no |
| 10:30.53 | Trixsey | but development has started? |
| 10:30.53 | Jucato | beta? definitely no |
| 10:31.08 | Trixsey | is it a re-write from scratch? |
| 10:31.16 | Jucato | not completely |
| 10:31.21 | Jucato | and development has started loooong ago |
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| 10:38.44 | Jucato | hm... if all goes well, kde 4 alpha will be tagged tomorrow... hm... |
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| 10:42.22 | Simeon_H | you mean the first almost slightly usable version of KDE4 comes out tommorow? |
| 10:42.24 | Simeon_H | omg omg omg |
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| 10:56.58 | kdenewbie | morning all |
| 10:56.59 | kdenewbie | people |
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| 10:57.15 | kdenewbie | Can I submit 1 question please ? |
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| 11:03.21 | qupada | bit late for that now isn't it? ;) |
| 11:03.41 | XVampireX | you kde people |
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| 11:03.55 | qupada | just go ahead, the worst that will happen is noone will answer |
| 11:04.02 | XVampireX | Lets bet that Konqi is faster than Firefoxy |
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| 11:06.37 | kdenewbie | :P |
| 11:06.53 | kdenewbie | ok qupada can I tell it to you ? |
| 11:07.10 | XVampireX | you're a kde newbie, so no. |
| 11:07.20 | kdenewbie | ops |
| 11:07.35 | kdenewbie | who I can tell it ? |
| 11:08.04 | YodaYoda | kdenewbie: Just ask the question to everyone. |
| 11:08.09 | kdenewbie | ok |
| 11:08.14 | kdenewbie | no problem :) |
| 11:08.39 | kdenewbie | few days before I had create a shortcut to firefox (Ctrl+j) |
| 11:09.05 | kdenewbie | now after debian upgrade appication war replaced by " Iceweal " (copyright probe) |
| 11:09.11 | kdenewbie | I suppose |
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| 11:09.49 | kdenewbie | well if I try to make same Ctrl+j in kmenuedit it say me " key is used " |
| 11:10.02 | kdenewbie | question is : wich is the file that store shortcut ? |
| 11:10.08 | kdenewbie | so I can remove it manually... |
| 11:10.20 | kdenewbie | and replace right shortcut |
| 11:10.30 | chealer | heh |
| 11:10.39 | chealer | kdenewbie: you were using sarge? |
| 11:10.45 | kdenewbie | yes I am |
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| 11:11.09 | XVampireX | kdenewbie: I'm just kidding |
| 11:11.18 | kdenewbie | ok :P |
| 11:11.39 | kdenewbie | anyone know where kde store shotcut infos ? |
| 11:11.46 | kdenewbie | shorcuts* |
| 11:11.50 | chealer | kdenewbie: wait...you're not using sarge *now*, do you? |
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| 11:12.17 | kdenewbie | nope chealer, I'm on my sarge box now :) |
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| 11:12.42 | chealer | kdenewbie: OK, but on the problematic box, you upgraded from sarge to etch, right? |
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| 11:12.55 | kdenewbie | mhmm nope |
| 11:13.06 | kdenewbie | I only upgrade sarge to sarge |
| 11:13.14 | kdenewbie | with new version packets... |
| 11:13.28 | kdenewbie | but before was same sarge |
| 11:13.35 | kdenewbie | sorry for my english |
| 11:13.41 | Simeon_H | bahhahahha |
| 11:13.53 | kdenewbie | ? |
| 11:13.57 | Simeon_H | that psychaitrist program in emacs is hilarious |
| 11:14.03 | chealer | kdenewbie: eh...first, make sure you're running Etch. Etch is the stable Debian release. iceweasel is only in Etch. according to what you say you run at least partly etch. |
| 11:15.08 | kdenewbie | ok |
| 11:15.13 | kdenewbie | etch == sarge |
| 11:15.16 | kdenewbie | is the same |
| 11:15.30 | kdenewbie | sorry etch == testing |
| 11:15.56 | kdenewbie | sarge can be : stable || etch |
| 11:16.04 | kdenewbie | so |
| 11:16.10 | chealer | kdenewbie: no, now that etch is release, etch == stable. testing == lenny |
| 11:16.11 | kdenewbie | I run etch now |
| 11:16.13 | kdenewbie | :) |
| 11:16.20 | chealer | sarge is oldstable |
| 11:16.20 | kdenewbie | :O |
| 11:16.34 | kdenewbie | ops I'm confusing so |
| 11:16.47 | kdenewbie | so do you think |
| 11:16.57 | kdenewbie | is upgrade problem right ? |
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| 11:22.26 | kdenewbie | so |
| 11:22.30 | kdenewbie | what I can do ? |
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| 11:23.37 | chealer | kdenewbie: I have to go, hope that someone else has time to answer your question. |
| 11:26.05 | kdenewbie | ok |
| 11:26.13 | kdenewbie | thanks for answer |
| 11:26.32 | kdenewbie | have a nice day |
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| 11:50.49 | xushi | hi all |
| 11:50.54 | xushi | i've this really weird thing here |
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| 11:51.09 | xushi | if i try running beryl-manager from the run box (alt f2), it doesnt work.. |
| 11:51.14 | xushi | if i run it from the command line, it works |
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| 11:52.45 | Lanken | I just dreamt that Renze was back. |
| 11:53.09 | Lanken | there were a bunch of young girls, and he arrived to sell ponies to their parents....... |
| 11:53.21 | xushi | haha |
| 11:53.45 | icwiener | Renze is gone? |
| 11:53.47 | xushi | making them an offer they can't refuse ? |
| 11:54.17 | Lanken | icwiener: he hasn't been around in ten days or more. |
| 11:54.32 | Lanken | s/in/for/ |
| 11:54.42 | Lanken | eh, maybe s/for/in/ |
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| 11:55.45 | icwiener | Lanken: Interesting. I hope nothing happened to him. |
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| 12:01.46 | wiedenmann | how can I move the trash from desktop to another directory but not lose the destop item? |
| 12:02.00 | qupada | copy it at a console |
| 12:02.11 | Jucato | the trash icon? |
| 12:02.12 | qupada | cp ~/Desktop/trash.desktop [destination folder] |
| 12:02.31 | wiedenmann | ls ~/Desktop/ |
| 12:02.37 | wiedenmann | ups, sry, wrong window |
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| 12:04.08 | wiedenmann | there is no ~/Desktop/trash.desktop |
| 12:04.19 | wiedenmann | wiedenmann@kleist:~$ ls -l Desktop/ |
| 12:04.19 | wiedenmann | insgesamt 8 |
| 12:04.20 | wiedenmann | drwx------ 2 wiedenmann users 4096 2007-05-02 14:03 Mülleimer/ |
| 12:04.54 | wiedenmann | I want to move it away from Desktop since Desktop is under quota control and I got a local (non quota) directory |
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| 12:05.27 | wiedenmann | If I change the path in kcontrol for the trash directory the trash icon on the desktop is gone together with the empty trash right click option |
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| 12:10.07 | nikolavp | hello i just came from gnome and i really like kde |
| 12:10.37 | D-Fender1031 | good for you! |
| 12:10.46 | nikolavp | the thing i miss is that i want to have a feature to not show applications in the taskbar if they are not part of that "virtual" Desktop |
| 12:10.47 | D-Fender1031 | wish more people would realize that |
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| 12:10.50 | nikolavp | like in gnome ;) |
| 12:11.05 | D-Fender1031 | there's a setting for that |
| 12:11.12 | nikolavp | yeah i thought so |
| 12:11.16 | D-Fender1031 | hang on |
| 12:11.20 | nikolavp | but i couldnt find it in KControl :) |
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| 12:11.40 | wiedenmann | right click on the taskbar and choose settings |
| 12:11.42 | Skrot- | Right click the panel, Configure Panel -> Taskbar -> [ ] Show windows From all desktops |
| 12:11.51 | D-Fender1031 | right |
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| 12:11.54 | D-Fender1031 | that's the one |
| 12:12.05 | nikolavp | thanks alot :D |
| 12:12.18 | nikolavp | KDE > ALL :) |
| 12:12.26 | nikolavp | one thing more :) |
| 12:12.28 | Skrot- | yeah, it's pretty sweet :) |
| 12:12.30 | wiedenmann | I bet configuration is less confusing on Gnome though simply because of the few possibilities |
| 12:12.45 | nikolavp | is there a way to put a script somewhere in a dir so i can execute it through konqueror |
| 12:12.54 | D-Fender1031 | wiedenmann, yeah, sure. if they force you to do it one way, easier not to get confused |
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| 12:13.38 | nikolavp | yeah i noticed the lack of configuration options :P |
| 12:13.57 | D-Fender1031 | plus... i absolutely HATE the gnome file open dialog |
| 12:14.10 | D-Fender1031 | seriously |
| 12:14.18 | D-Fender1031 | it looks like a dog ate it and then spit it out and then ate it again and the had it surgically removed |
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| 12:15.49 | qupada | i'm going to repeat what i say to everyone about the "new" gtk file dialogues |
| 12:16.00 | qupada | they're a leaf right out of the mac system 6 book |
| 12:16.08 | nikolavp | 6 book ? |
| 12:16.24 | wiedenmann | the 666 book from hell |
| 12:16.25 | Jucato | new gtk file dialogs? you have some screenshots? |
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| 12:16.43 | qupada | find yourself any old m68k-powered mac from 1989 or so and see if the file dialogues look familiar |
| 12:16.52 | nikolavp | LOL |
| 12:17.01 | nikolavp | 1989 that's the year i was born :D |
| 12:17.14 | qupada | Jucato: the ones they introduced in gtk+-2.8 |
| 12:17.21 | wiedenmann | screenshots? |
| 12:17.36 | Jucato | ah |
| 12:18.22 | qupada | no, just people who equate gtk to gnome |
| 12:18.23 | nikolavp | i just hope i dont get disappointed from kde 4 :P |
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| 12:18.51 | n8k99 | kde 4 will look like OS/2 |
| 12:19.01 | n8k99 | kidding |
| 12:19.18 | nikolavp | i dont want it to look like something else |
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| 12:19.49 | Jucato | qupada: oh yeah... I thought you said GNOME (since the topic was originally about GNOME...) |
| 12:20.00 | n8k99 | well it will have a resemblence to something |
| 12:20.17 | Jucato | will it resemble... KDE? |
| 12:20.24 | n8k99 | hehe |
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| 12:20.55 | n8k99 | i only hope that tehre are less dialogs asking me if i really want to do what i said to do |
| 12:21.18 | qupada | it's funny you mention os/2 actually, out of all the old and completely obsolete operating systems, it's the one that's possibly still in use the most |
| 12:21.26 | Jucato | I hope they don't actually remove those :) |
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| 12:21.33 | qupada | i know all my bank's ATM's still run it |
| 12:21.51 | nikolavp | i dont like os/2 :P |
| 12:21.58 | nikolavp | neither osX :0 |
| 12:22.41 | qupada | personally i'm quite happy about that, much rather that something i use to access my bank account wasn't running windows like some banks |
| 12:23.09 | n8k99 | qupada: yeah os/2 is in several pos machines in some electroncis stores here |
| 12:23.47 | nikolavp | i have never seen mac box in reaility |
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| 12:23.54 | nikolavp | just on pictures and it seems a bloat :D |
| 12:24.14 | n8k99 | nikolavp: i have several , and they are not bloated |
| 12:24.27 | nikolavp | the box or the OS on it :P |
| 12:24.42 | n8k99 | neither |
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| 12:25.08 | n8k99 | one of my mac boxes is 7 inches by 7 inches by 2 inches |
| 12:25.20 | n8k99 | the OS is based upon BSD |
| 12:26.15 | nikolavp | i knoq is basen on *BSD |
| 12:26.27 | nikolavp | but it doesnt change the fact that it looks like a bloat to me :D |
| 12:26.33 | n8k99 | the DE is pretty locked down- but is highly functionally |
| 12:26.44 | n8k99 | what do you mean bloat? then |
| 12:26.45 | qupada | mac mini, huh? |
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| 12:26.51 | n8k99 | yeah |
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| 12:28.11 | n8k99 | use a wiimote as a remote/mouse |
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| 12:32.40 | metalfan | KtechLab question: does anybody know how to slow down the clk source or the oscilloscope output? |
| 12:32.57 | metalfan | im down to 10fps, but thats still pretty fast... |
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| 12:46.46 | Jucato | (ugh... Mono and Silverlight... will KDE be left behind... :( ) |
| 12:47.15 | Jucato | hm.. just wondering... what's the KDE counterpart to Mono? |
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| 12:49.29 | Skrot- | Jucato: PyKDE perhaps.. |
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| 12:49.50 | Jucato | er... python? |
| 12:49.53 | Skrot- | yes |
| 12:50.06 | Skrot- | It is |
| 12:50.18 | Skrot- | Mono is an implementation of the C#.NET "standard" afaik |
| 12:50.27 | Jucato | hm... ok... |
| 12:50.27 | logixoul | no. |
| 12:50.34 | logixoul | mono supports other languages too |
| 12:50.39 | Skrot- | hm |
| 12:51.00 | Skrot- | PyKDE might be more of an alternative to mono |
| 12:51.03 | Jucato | "Mono provides the necessary software to develop and run .NET client and server applications on Linux, Solaris, Mac OS X, Windows, and Unix." |
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| 12:52.01 | logixoul | Skrot-: kyoto can be said to come closer, in a sense... |
| 12:52.33 | Skrot- | I've never heard of it :> |
| 12:52.43 | logixoul | kde java bindings |
| 12:52.48 | Skrot- | ah |
| 12:53.10 | Jucato | Kimono... |
| 12:53.36 | Jucato | hm.. kyoto... is KDE's Java bindings? while Jambi is Qt's? |
| 12:53.42 | logixoul | yep |
| 12:54.02 | Jucato | heh japanese names... |
| 12:54.17 | logixoul | jambi looks carribean to me |
| 12:54.30 | Jucato | (Kimono is the KDE C# bindings it seems) |
| 12:54.38 | logixoul | no |
| 12:54.38 | Jucato | I mean Kimono and Kyoto |
| 12:54.48 | logixoul | Kimono is for mono, not just C# |
| 12:54.52 | Jucato | ah ok... |
| 12:54.56 | logixoul | just like the name suggests :) |
| 12:54.56 | Jucato | yeah ki-mono :) |
| 12:55.13 | Jucato | oh well, enough wondering... |
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| 13:13.25 | Sho_ | Jucato: Why would Silverlight impact KDE? |
| 13:13.50 | Jucato | oh hi Sho_! didn't see you return :) |
| 13:14.03 | Sho_ | Jucato: And the KDE counterpart to Mono, if you will, is the Sun Java VM and Qt Jambi |
| 13:14.06 | Jucato | well, nothing really |
| 13:14.26 | Jucato | just thinking Mono -> GNOME... as usual :) |
| 13:14.53 | Sho_ | Jucato: Well Silverlight is "just" a Flash competitor |
| 13:14.58 | benJIman | Qt jambi has no kde bindings though |
| 13:15.13 | Sho_ | benJIman: yet :) we'll see how it develops |
| 13:15.15 | benJIman | currently the mono bindings are in a better state for kde4 |
| 13:15.30 | benJIman | KDE's bindings are its biggest weak spot. |
| 13:15.30 | Sho_ | yeah, Richard's work is great of course |
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| 13:15.41 | benJIman | Too stuck in obsolete languages like c++. |
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| 13:16.19 | Jucato | aw... |
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| 13:17.14 | Jucato | hm.. isn't rdale also working on ruby? he's the kde bindings guy right? |
| 13:17.30 | benJIman | Therein lies the problem. |
| 13:17.46 | benJIman | Having a "the" kdebindings guy. |
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| 13:18.41 | Jucato | oh I wasn't implying anything... |
| 13:18.47 | Jucato | or emphasizing anything... |
| 13:19.31 | Sho_ | Jucato: What Microsoft has done is essentially to create a new graphics library for their .NET platform, and an XML dialect called XAML that allows instanciation and instrumentation of .NET library classes in a declarative manner via XAML documents. If you put the two together you get the "Windows Presentation Foundation", i.e. a way to write graphics-rich GUIs in XML. The WPF has a subset once called WPF/E (E = Everywhere) that Microsoft has ported to OS X and made |
| 13:19.31 | Sho_ | available as browser plugin for Safari and Firefox. "Silverlight" is the new name for WPF/E. |
| 13:20.01 | Jucato | oh... |
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| 13:20.44 | Sho_ | Jucato: To go along with that, they've got a new suite of GUI authoring tools, the Expression suite (http://www.microsoft.com/expression/) |
| 13:21.00 | Sho_ | Jucato: Basically, they're getting into beta with that stuff now, hence the name change for higher PR impact |
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| 13:21.28 | Jucato | well, I was just thinking that if de Icaza has committed Mono to be able to work with Silverlight, maybe GNOME/GTK+ will have better support for it, sooner than us... well, just my ignorance talking again :) |
| 13:21.28 | Sho_ | Jucato: Adobe's reaction to WPF is "Apollon", an offline application platform based around WebKit/KHTML, Flash and Flex |
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| 13:22.21 | Jucato | ugh... all these "web apps"... (for lack of a better term...) |
| 13:22.42 | Sho_ | Jucato: Well if Mono makes a Silverlight browser plugin it will be an nsplugin because that's what their browsers use |
| 13:22.46 | Sho_ | Jucato: And we have support for nsplugins |
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| 13:23.11 | Sho_ | Jucato: But ideally we don't want to Silverlight to succeed to begin with ;) |
| 13:23.15 | Jucato | "The port will allow someone to use .Net languages to create Web applications that run on any Linux device or other platforms that Mono supports. " |
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| 13:23.32 | Jucato | what better way to make sure it won't succeed? :) |
| 13:23.42 | Jucato | I mean, how? :) |
| 13:24.52 | Sho_ | Good question. Adobe is playing nicer with the open source world on Flash these days; they've taken their ECMAScript4/ActionScript 3 engine Tamarin open source under MPL and now also Flex 3, their Flash-based application toolkit. Might be the better route to push Gnash & co and "go" with Flash. |
| 13:25.24 | Sho_ | Adobe has said they're doing Apollon for Linux, we'll see |
| 13:25.50 | Jucato | that's the harder part I guess... the "we'll wait and see" part :) |
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| 13:26.48 | Jucato | (although I could imagine something like superkaramba++ or plasmoids being a sort of Apollon thing...) |
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| 13:28.25 | Jucato | Sho_: oh btw, by some miracle... I got kdm working properly again. :) |
| 13:28.37 | Jucato | (that was last monday or sunday I think) |
| 13:28.43 | Sho_ | Jucato: Trolltech has certainly hinted they envision for Qt to support some similar approaches to GUI creation down the road |
| 13:29.08 | Jucato | ah Qt :) |
| 13:29.15 | Sho_ | Jucato: Apple is trying to compete by making their main development language, ObjectiveC, easier to use, and creating new frameworks such as CoreAnimation for more effects and bling-bling |
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| 13:29.45 | Jucato | ah so the battle moves on to Web 2.0 (or is it 3.0 now?) |
| 13:29.57 | Jucato | will/can KDE compete? :) |
| 13:31.54 | Sho_ | (you can already see some influence of web technologies in Qt4 - CSS stylesheets for widgets for example) |
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| 13:32.52 | Jucato | hm... wasn't that also one of Plasma's goals? to be able to use CSS to theme the desktop? |
| 13:33.24 | Jucato | ugh... nvm... I'll get overly excited about plasma again... :( |
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| 13:36.06 | Sho_ | And doctors everywhere recommend against getting excited about Plasma |
| 13:36.18 | Jucato | heheh :) |
| 13:36.54 | Jucato | bah... bbl :/ |
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| 13:46.58 | hydrogen | anonsvn isn't being that reliable lately |
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| 14:19.23 | vikke | hello, I am having problems with my terminal, when i open any type of terminal I recive an error dialog telling me this http://rafb.net/p/4nKJGc15.html |
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| 14:25.51 | eidolon | hi folks - Running on [K]ubuntu on feisty fawn, all updated. I'm evaluating whether I can ditch firefox for konqueror, but i'm noticing that calendar.google.com won't comeup. is there a tweak i need to make it work? |
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| 14:26.40 | wolsni | eidolon: you can try telling konqueror to report that it is firefox |
| 14:26.48 | eidolon | :-/ |
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| 14:27.24 | wolsni | no guarantees that konqueror will actually work with that site though |
| 14:27.30 | eidolon | interestingly, it looks like site specific info for google.com is already there. |
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| 14:28.11 | eidolon | yah, no difference :( |
| 14:28.28 | eidolon | oh well. |
| 14:28.33 | eidolon | *ditches and goes back to ff* |
| 14:28.42 | Alethes | hey |
| 14:28.53 | Alethes | eidolon: I make google think it's safari |
| 14:28.58 | Alethes | works ok for gmail |
| 14:29.07 | Alethes | don't know about calendar though |
| 14:29.16 | eidolon | yah, i don't use gmail :) |
| 14:29.33 | Alethes | try safari though and see if it works for the calendar though |
| 14:29.35 | wolsni | eidolon: tried korganizer? |
| 14:29.56 | eidolon | wolsni: um, eh? |
| 14:30.03 | eidolon | yes, i have - but what's that got to do with this problem? |
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| 14:31.03 | wolsni | gee, I don't know what a calendar program could have to do with working around a calendar website not working |
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| 14:31.13 | eidolon | ah, i see. |
| 14:32.06 | Alethes | haha |
| 14:32.17 | eidolon | the one thing that korganizer cannot do, (and no other schedulign program that i know of can do), is actually function for group scheduling. we use calendar.google.com to organize a dozen or so folks together. korganizer cannot do that (it's publish / subscribe functions are -crap-) |
| 14:32.23 | eidolon | and yes, i've opened numerous bugs on it. |
| 14:32.53 | wolsni | setting the UA to Safari doesn't cut it, btw |
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| 14:34.43 | wolsni | well, korganizer is closer than any other calendar app I've played with |
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| 14:36.17 | wolsni | it seems like if you just make a .ics file for each person in the group and put them on a webdav server you'd be doing pretty well |
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| 14:37.09 | eidolon | except the publication mechanism in konqueror is painful to work with - it's not automated. so each time i want to publish, i have to export the calendar (which also includes things i've seen from other feeds), then push the file to a server. |
| 14:37.36 | eidolon | that wouldn't be so bad, except that the export dialog in KDE - if i try to save it to a fish:// hosted url or any network drive... "File target must be a local volume" |
| 14:37.38 | eidolon | which is... total BS. |
| 14:38.27 | wolsni | eidolon: or you could add a 'Remote Resource' which does exactly what you want :) |
| 14:39.11 | crazyh | in suse 10.0 using KDE, how can I disable the display of the suse greeter on the first login? I have created a KDE profile that customizes other features but cannot see how to override that |
| 14:40.05 | eidolon | wolsni: except it doesn't work. |
| 14:40.14 | wolsni | it does for me |
| 14:40.21 | eidolon | i tried this about a year ago,maybe i'll try it again, but it was really painful to work with last time i tried. |
| 14:40.23 | wolsni | maybe a distro bug |
| 14:41.00 | eidolon | it also did things like if i subscribed to an extgernal calendar (say a google calendar), when i did my export, it included what it subscribed to. |
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| 14:42.27 | wolsni | that's why you can disable calendars |
| 14:42.46 | tuxick | i tried that but time flies anyway |
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| 14:46.02 | Lanken | where are konqueror plugins? |
| 14:46.14 | Lanken | I want to equip firefox with some plugins that konqueror is using |
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| 14:47.33 | pinotree | $KDEDIR/lib/kde3/ |
| 14:47.43 | vikke | hello, I am having problems with my terminal, when i open any type of terminal I recive an error dialog telling me this http://rafb.net/p/4nKJGc15.html , anyone care to help? |
| 14:48.09 | pinotree | but of course there you can find even some other stuff... |
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| 14:55.35 | crazyh | hmm... it seems one is supposed to get the commands for disabling autostart kde applications from /opt/kde3/share/autostart/*.desktop,then look at the key specified by X-KDE-autostart-condition |
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| 15:00.08 | crazyh | hmmm .. but that doesn't disable the greeter for the first login, is there a special script that is run during the first login, ie, when the ~/.kde directory is created? |
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| 15:01.08 | wolsni | you mean kpersonalizer ? |
| 15:03.02 | crazyh | maybe i do, i dnno ? |
| 15:03.37 | wolsni | run kpersonalizer and see? |
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| 15:05.49 | crazyh | what is kpersonalizer and how do I run it? |
| 15:06.18 | pinotree | open a console, write "kpersonalizer" and click on Return ? |
| 15:06.26 | wolsni | alt+f2, type in kpersonalizer |
| 15:06.28 | wolsni | or that |
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| 15:07.38 | crazyh | hmmm, no file on my machine called kpersonalizer |
| 15:07.57 | crazyh | certainly not in my path |
| 15:08.37 | wolsni | it should be part of kdebase |
| 15:09.01 | pinotree | it is part of kdebase |
| 15:09.28 | wolsni | it should be part of * your distro's kdebase package * |
| 15:09.36 | benJIman | In suse it's in kdebase3-extra |
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| 15:10.25 | crazyh | ok, what does kpersonalizer do, before I go on this wild goose chase? :-) |
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| 15:11.28 | wolsni | it's the dialog that pops up at first login and asks what style you want to use |
| 15:11.34 | Sho_ | crazyh: It's a wizard-based interface to some of the locale and interface options KDE provides |
| 15:11.41 | Sho_ | crazyh: It's run on first KDE startup |
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| 15:13.52 | crazyh | ok thanks, I don't think that is what I need. I am trying to stop the suse greeter from popping up during first login. also trying to stop ktips from popping up during first login. installing another application that pops up during firs tlogin won't really help me :-) |
| 15:14.51 | wolsni | crazyh: i only suggested it because I didn't realize suse had their own |
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| 15:17.17 | Jucato | hm... still having problems with sound notifications ;( |
| 15:17.48 | Jucato | crazyh: for ktips, run ktips, then uncheck the "Show tips on startup" option |
| 15:18.45 | crazyh | jucato: i don't want ktips ever to show, not even during the first login |
| 15:19.09 | Jucato | crazyh: by first login you mean after a fresh installation? |
| 15:19.46 | crazyh | well, after creating a new user |
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| 15:19.51 | Jucato | ah |
| 15:20.12 | crazyh | which I can seem to simulate simply by removing the ~/.kde directory |
| 15:20.38 | Jucato | a system-wide config for ktip then |
| 15:20.44 | crazyh | so I think whatever creates the ~/.kde directory is putting things in there that interfere with settings in the user's kde profile |
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| 15:21.21 | Jucato | the other theory would be that ktip is configured to run at startup globally (system-wide) |
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| 15:22.18 | crazyh | I already set up a kde profile for the user, and it works for setting other things like screensaver, background, session management... I put it in /var/lib/kde-profiles/my_profile |
| 15:22.55 | crazyh | and mapped to it using /etc/kde-user-profile |
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| 15:23.47 | crazyh | I put a ktiprc file in my profile that disable the tooltip, but when the user's .kde directory is created, a ktiprc magically appears in there that enables tips |
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| 15:25.28 | wmind | is there any way of associating notes with users on kopete? |
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| 15:26.28 | pinotree | wmind: activate the notes plugin |
| 15:27.08 | spawn57 | damn software raid, it's a pain |
| 15:27.22 | wmind | pinotree: ah! I actually checked there and didn't see it before |
| 15:27.31 | wmind | pinotree: thanks! |
| 15:27.35 | pinotree | np |
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| 15:28.27 | Layer8 | hi! |
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| 15:29.00 | Layer8 | where does kde cache screen resolution data? |
| 15:29.17 | pinotree | what's the real problem? |
| 15:29.27 | Layer8 | i changed my X settings but an old user doesnt get the new config... |
| 15:29.47 | Layer8 | as soon as kde is started the old display settings get loaded |
| 15:30.06 | Layer8 | new: big desktop / old: clone |
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| 15:30.18 | Layer8 | a new user gets big desktop |
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| 15:30.26 | pinotree | kde control center -> perhiperals -> display |
| 15:30.27 | Layer8 | an old one gets the clone |
| 15:31.06 | kdesetup | how do I deactivate katapult -- I want to free up alt+space |
| 15:31.37 | pinotree | killall katapult |
| 15:31.54 | wolsni | kdesetup: right click the tray icon and choose quit |
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| 15:33.40 | Jucato | Alt+Space, Ctrl+C, Quit |
| 15:34.07 | crazyh | anyway if somebody could at least point me to the documentation for kde profiles, something that shows what all the files, groups, and keys mean, that would be great |
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| 15:34.40 | pinotree | crazyh: there's no such guide |
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| 15:35.12 | annma | crazyh: http://docs.kde.org/development/en/extragear-sysadmin/kiosktool/kiosktool.pdf might contain infos |
| 15:35.13 | Jucato | crazyh: you could probably try the chapter on KDE for Administrators in the KDE User Guide |
| 15:35.36 | crazyh | ok I'll poke around, thanks |
| 15:35.40 | annma | crazyh: http://techbase.kde.org/SysAdmin |
| 15:35.44 | pinotree | annma, Jucato: that would explain just *some* files, and *some* keys |
| 15:35.48 | annma | might also help |
| 15:35.53 | pinotree | not *all* like he wanted |
| 15:35.54 | annma | yes pinotree |
| 15:35.55 | Jucato | ah he wants *all* |
| 15:35.56 | Jucato | :D |
| 15:36.02 | Locnar | Is this a good place to ask about kcmshell printer creation problems? |
| 15:36.04 | Jucato | well, this ain't a perfect world :) |
| 15:36.05 | annma | pinotree: some is better than none |
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| 15:36.26 | annma | he'll end up figuring the missing ones |
| 15:36.46 | annma | maybe he'll complete the techbase page even |
| 15:36.48 | pinotree | pfff |
| 15:36.54 | Jucato | hope he does :) |
| 15:37.01 | annma | cheer up pinotree |
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| 15:37.04 | kdesetup | pinotree: how can I prevent katapult from reactivating afwer each reboot? |
| 15:37.14 | pinotree | the kiosk keys are just a limited percentage of all the files/keys |
| 15:37.20 | kdesetup | wolsni: I see to tray icon |
| 15:37.25 | Jucato | kdesetup: Quit katapult before you logout |
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| 15:37.37 | annma | kdesetup: how is your login session restored? |
| 15:37.43 | Jucato | kdesetup: KDE is set by default to save and restore a previous session |
| 15:37.48 | wolsni | kdesetup: then use one of the 3 other methods that have been suggested |
| 15:37.57 | kdesetup | Jucato: ok, thanks, this works for me |
| 15:38.24 | kdesetup | now I can configure katapult |
| 15:38.52 | kdesetup | ah, my configuration doesn't have the icon-in-systray clicked |
| 15:39.04 | Jucato | yes, it is disabled by default in Kubuntu |
| 15:39.27 | Jucato | (the only distro that installs it by default anyway...) |
| 15:39.44 | nikolavp | which is this package ? |
| 15:39.45 | nikolavp | :) |
| 15:39.50 | Jucato | katapult |
| 15:39.51 | wolsni | of course, you could just change the key combo to activate it |
| 15:40.00 | kdesetup | ok, I could just uninstall it ... I'm setting up Kubuntu on my Mom's computer |
| 15:40.14 | nikolavp | never used it lol |
| 15:40.17 | Jucato | hm.. better not uninstall it... she might like it :D |
| 15:40.18 | nikolavp | i might try it out :P |
| 15:40.39 | Jucato | actually, don't uninstall it as it will remove the kubuntu-desktop metapackage as well... |
| 15:40.42 | wolsni | it's a nice idea, but it has some oddities |
| 15:40.56 | Jucato | wolsni: it's not even 1.0 release yet :) |
| 15:40.57 | kdesetup | nikolavp: the package does look interesting but isn't really perfected for the novice level yet |
| 15:41.08 | kdesetup | Jucato: ok |
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| 15:41.17 | Jucato | kdesetup: hm... why? |
| 15:41.32 | wolsni | Jucato: does removing kubuntu-desktop do something bad? |
| 15:41.50 | nikolavp | i think it prefer the old fashion key shortcuts :P |
| 15:41.52 | cuco | annma: ping |
| 15:42.05 | kdesetup | wolsni: if you want to use KDE in Ubuntu it's bad |
| 15:42.07 | Jucato | although if by "novice level" you mean "point to the lower left corner of the screen and click, go through search through the sub menus for the app and click", then yeah, it's not novice level friendly |
| 15:42.18 | Jucato | wolsni: well, not completely |
| 15:42.42 | Jucato | it just kinda makes it a bit more difficult to upgrade later on... |
| 15:42.46 | kdesetup | Jucato: I'm talking about a level of novice below that where everything is on the desktop and you just click it |
| 15:42.50 | Jucato | just a bit, but not impossible |
| 15:42.55 | nikolavp | lol it is marked as testing |
| 15:43.01 | nikolavp | is this somekind of new app ? |
| 15:43.15 | annma | cuco: pong |
| 15:43.16 | yung_ | Can I not disable arts and use ALSA device for sound? |
| 15:43.18 | wolsni | it's been around for a while |
| 15:43.27 | Jucato | nikolavp: more than half a year |
| 15:43.28 | nikolavp | yung_: u can ofcourse :D |
| 15:43.45 | kdesetup | anyway, thanks all for the help. bye |
| 15:43.59 | Jucato | nice client.... O.o |
| 15:44.14 | cuco | annma: i read you are going to the akademy |
| 15:44.20 | yung_ | nikolavp: can you give me some hints? |
| 15:44.42 | wolsni | Jucato: maybe he browses with the emacs webbrowser too :) |
| 15:44.44 | Sho_ | Jucato: Emacs actually ships with two or three IRC client in the base distro, after all, what's a text editor without multiple IRC clients |
| 15:45.02 | Jucato | Sho_: Emacs is not a text editor... it's an OS, right? ;) |
| 15:45.20 | Sho_ | right. one lacking a good text editor ;) |
| 15:45.30 | Jucato | (I actually read IBM calling it an Editing Environment... which isn't really that far from a Desktop Environment) |
| 15:45.48 | annma | cuco: yes! you too? |
| 15:46.18 | yung_ | nikolavp: arts is a sound proxy right? so we can configure any application use ALSA directly. am i right? |
| 15:46.35 | cuco | annma: no, i woke up too early, now i need to find my own hostel or whatever... and ask the ev for some $$$ help... blah... |
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| 15:46.56 | cuco | annma: i missed the last akademy because of this stupid war... that stinks |
| 15:47.02 | annma | maybe they'll have a room left |
| 15:47.07 | Sho_ | yung_: aRts is a software synthesizer and sound server. KDE3's sound APIs use aRts exclusively, i.e. an application that only supports aRts for sound playback will only use aRts. |
| 15:47.08 | nikolavp | yung_: it is the sound server :) |
| 15:47.24 | annma | cuco: :( I would have loved to meet you |
| 15:47.25 | Sho_ | yung_: aRts can use ALSA as backend, however |
| 15:47.27 | nikolavp | Sho_: and which is that application ?:) |
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| 15:47.47 | Sho_ | nikolavp: A number of KDE applications and KDE system components |
| 15:48.22 | Jucato | the arts-using apps you could probably live without... for system notifications you can use something else |
| 15:48.48 | nikolavp | like what ?:) |
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| 15:49.03 | nikolavp | well i have notifications and i dont use arts |
| 15:49.03 | nikolavp | :P |
| 15:49.15 | nikolavp | just a simple sox script ^_^ |
| 15:49.25 | Jucato | I said you can use something else for system notifications |
| 15:49.28 | Sho_ | KDEs notification system, KNotify, can optionally use an external player instead of aRts. |
| 15:49.40 | Sho_ | Jucato: You did, but he's a know-it-all and must behave accordingly |
| 15:49.40 | Jucato | s/system/sound/ |
| 15:49.55 | Jucato | :P |
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| 15:50.53 | nikolavp | lol |
| 15:50.54 | yung_ | Sho_: Can I disable the aRTs and what is the side effect? |
| 15:51.06 | nikolavp | Jucato: i would be glad to look at that ;P |
| 15:51.15 | nikolavp | yung_: less cpu usage ?:) |
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| 15:52.00 | yung_ | How can I disable aRTs ? could you give me some hint? |
| 15:52.27 | Jucato | nikolavp: KControl -> Sound & Multimedia -> System Notifications -> Player Settings button |
| 15:52.34 | nikolavp | yeah |
| 15:52.42 | nikolavp | i am using the same |
| 15:52.49 | nikolavp | but u have to specify something there ;P |
| 15:52.54 | Jucato | ( ) use external player, then put in /usr/bin/play |
| 15:53.08 | Jucato | yes, you use /usr/bin/play |
| 15:53.48 | nikolavp | well almost the same but i use sox :x |
| 15:53.56 | Jucato | er... |
| 15:54.03 | Sho_ | yung_: You can disable aRts on the "Sound System" preferences page in the Sound & Multimedia section of KControl. You will subsequently lose sound support in a number of KDE applications that exclusively use aRts for sound playback, although many people find that they don't rely on those applications. |
| 15:54.03 | Jucato | nikolavp: run "man play" |
| 15:54.35 | Jucato | nikolavp: read the 1st paragraph of the Description |
| 15:55.05 | nikolavp | i know what is the purpose of play |
| 15:55.12 | yung_ | Sho_: then do I need to configure a application to use ALSA? |
| 15:55.21 | Jucato | then you know that it is part of/using sox |
| 15:55.28 | Sho_ | yung_: If the application supports that, yes. |
| 15:55.32 | nikolavp | #!/bin/sh |
| 15:55.32 | nikolavp | sox "$@" -v 0.7 -q -t alsa default & |
| 15:55.36 | Jucato | but stick to your script... |
| 15:55.38 | nikolavp | i just think that this is simpler :) |
| 15:55.40 | yung_ | Sho_: thanks.. |
| 15:55.56 | Sho_ | yung_: Amarok for example has a xine backend that supports aRts as well as ALSA directly. |
| 15:55.56 | Jucato | of course, it's simpler than "/usr/bin/play" |
| 15:56.59 | yung_ | Sho_: I have one more question.. Is there a config file to disable aRTs automatically? |
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| 15:57.15 | nikolavp | there is a checkbox as far as i can remember |
| 15:57.29 | Sho_ | I already told him where the checkbox is. |
| 15:57.43 | yung_ | That should be saved somewhere.. I suppose |
| 15:57.49 | Sho_ | yung_: I don't have aRts installed, so I can't comfortably find out at this time what config file the checkbox edits, sorry. |
| 15:57.57 | Sho_ | Maybe someone who does have aRts installed can help out. |
| 15:58.28 | Sho_ | Most likely it's in ~/.kde/share/config/artsrc or somesuch |
| 15:59.02 | yung_ | Sho_: Oh, you even don't have aRTs.. |
| 15:59.19 | Jucato | Gentoo allows you to build KDE w/o arts |
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| 15:59.41 | Sho_ | I told my distribution's package manager not to install it because I presently don't require sound support in any application that requires aRts to provide sound support. |
| 15:59.46 | yung_ | What about other distro.. Can I remove the arts package later? |
| 16:00.33 | Sho_ | (of course, losing sound in Kolf was hard to take, but I got over it ;) |
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| 16:04.18 | Jucato | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:05.54 | nikolavp | huhu i like this one |
| 16:05.55 | nikolavp | :) |
| 16:06.13 | nikolavp | katapult is cool |
| 16:06.16 | nikolavp | simple and cool :d |
| 16:07.24 | nikolavp | except if u compile all the programs that use arts manually which will probably not happen :). |
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| 16:12.04 | cromo | is there a way to force locking the screen to blank out the screen as well? |
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| 16:14.37 | nikolavp | cromo: i didnt understand that :( |
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| 16:15.33 | Jucato | j/k |
| 16:15.52 | Fri13 | Jucato: -than ;-) |
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| 16:18.08 | SimAtWork | can't live without beryl any longer. |
| 16:18.22 | xlotlu | what happened with anonsvn? hasn't been working for almost a week now. any other way to check out the repository? |
| 16:18.37 | SimAtWork | it's become a vital service required for life, like caffeine. |
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| 16:19.57 | Fri13 | SimAtWork: I only need two things from beryl, scale and desktop cube, but when i run beryl, KDE is much slower to respond to buttons and so on. |
| 16:20.15 | cromo | nikolavp: I want to lock the screen but the screen has to be blanked, i.e. not showing the content of my desktop. |
| 16:20.59 | SimAtWork | Fri13: so sad :( |
| 16:21.04 | SimAtWork | i find it's fine |
| 16:21.13 | nikolavp | cromo: isnt it locked like this as default |
| 16:21.13 | SimAtWork | but i have a machine with 2gb of ram and a rather new nvidia card |
| 16:21.20 | SimAtWork | and dual core 2 processor |
| 16:21.26 | nikolavp | here it is with a "blank" black screen |
| 16:21.50 | cromo | nikolavp: not here. |
| 16:23.18 | nikolavp | well i just unlocked it with a black screen |
| 16:23.22 | Fri13 | hello |
| 16:23.24 | nikolavp | what is your kde version ? |
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| 17:13.27 | dfeser | hi all! |
| 17:13.50 | dfeser | i have problems with fglrx and big desktop when tere is no second monitor connected... |
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| 17:14.46 | mehdi | hello world |
| 17:14.54 | dfeser | hi mehdi |
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| 17:16.59 | Jomomo | Helloooooooooo |
| 17:17.08 | mehdi | Anyone is programer? |
| 17:17.09 | Jomomo | It's Jomomomomo! |
| 17:17.51 | Jomomo | mehdi: If it include kicking your computer,yes. |
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| 17:18.50 | mehdi | "kicking" i don't speak english very much.sorry |
| 17:18.56 | mehdi | what kicking? |
| 17:19.48 | dfeser | lol |
| 17:19.49 | Jomomo | :| |
| 17:19.55 | mehdi | ? |
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| 17:20.10 | Jomomo | looking for a video to demonstrate :p |
| 17:20.56 | mehdi | ok |
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| 17:21.41 | Jomomo | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sH-ArtsWEaM he "kicks" the ball :P |
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| 17:23.02 | mehdi | ok |
| 17:23.03 | mehdi | lol |
| 17:23.13 | Jomomo | :P |
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| 17:23.25 | pinotree | Jomomo: take your spam out of here, please |
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| 17:23.37 | SeicherlBoB | hi there! i need some way to start multiple processes each in a different konsole window. is there a way to start konsole with a specific program running? |
| 17:23.38 | Jomomo | Sure, i'll stop :) |
| 17:23.39 | mehdi | it's a special programer tecnick |
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| 17:24.06 | pinotree | SeicherlBoB: konsole --help will tell you |
| 17:25.21 | SeicherlBoB | pinotree: hehe.. i was looking for man konsole ;) thanks! |
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| 17:29.54 | SeicherlBoB | pinotree: ok. thanks i can open a terminal running a program. but how can i make one script open 2 or 3 konsoles? |
| 17:30.04 | pinotree | ?? |
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| 17:30.30 | pinotree | execute konsole multiple times? |
| 17:30.41 | Jomomo | small question I need a small CVS client / server for KDE any tips? |
| 17:30.58 | SeicherlBoB | pinotree: wont the script wait for the first window to close? |
| 17:31.34 | pinotree | Jomomo: a cvs/svn server is not something for kde |
| 17:31.43 | pinotree | for a cvs client, use cervisia |
| 17:31.49 | pinotree | for an svn client, use kdesvn |
| 17:31.51 | Jomomo | pinotree: I know but I need a normal client |
| 17:31.56 | Jomomo | cheers :) |
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| 17:33.03 | pinotree | SeicherlBoB: ? |
| 17:34.01 | SeicherlBoB | pinotree: if i write a shell script executing konsole 2 or 3 times, would it wait to open the 2nd until the 1st is closed or open both at one time? |
| 17:34.31 | pinotree | depends on how you call a process |
| 17:35.01 | SeicherlBoB | pinotree: well, just calling konsole will exectly do that: open one, wait till its closed and then open the 2nd |
| 17:35.45 | SeicherlBoB | pinotree: using konsole& helps... |
| 17:35.51 | pinotree | <pinotree> depends on how you call a process |
| 17:35.59 | pinotree | it's not something konsole-specific |
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| 17:38.46 | SeicherlBoB | pinotree: but there is no daemonize option for konsole. ok. thanks! i hope that will do it. |
| 17:42.04 | Jomomo | kdesvn seems nice :) thanks again pino! |
| 17:42.15 | pinotree | np |
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| 17:43.09 | Jomomo | but but :< no coco here |
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| 17:43.34 | pinotree | ;) |
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| 17:48.57 | Jomomo | Today i'm starting a project to learn c++ and qt :P |
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| 17:49.39 | Jomomo | It's mission: a panel where you can put widgets on. <cough> |
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| 17:50.50 | SiSteM[32] | help |
| 17:51.22 | Jomomo | Feel free to ask :) |
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| 18:00.27 | Jomomo | =| |
| 18:00.52 | pinotree | ? |
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| 18:01.01 | google | hello |
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| 18:01.39 | f_diogenes | hi there |
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| 18:03.43 | f_diogenes | I was wondering if there's a way to make knotify popups (passives windows) |
| 18:03.55 | PhilRod | kdialog --passive |
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| 18:03.59 | PhilRod | see kdialog --help |
| 18:04.25 | f_diogenes | to appear in another place rather than close to its main window |
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| 18:04.35 | p_masho | I just updated Kubuntu and now the "kde" logout only has the "logout" button and not the restart/shutdown etc... anyone know how to put this back on ? |
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| 18:05.37 | pinotree | p_masho: #kubuntu please |
| 18:05.52 | p_masho | pinotree: tia |
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| 18:07.11 | SiSteM[32] | in make conf i can put VIDEO_CARDS="ati" right ?? |
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| 18:07.25 | SiSteM[32] | and then emerge the xorg-x11 |
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| 18:07.53 | jay__ | would anyone know why the permissions on my usb external hdd would be unchangeable? |
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| 18:08.15 | SiSteM[32] | in make conf i can put VIDEO_CARDS="ati" right ?? |
| 18:08.16 | SiSteM[32] | and then emerge the xorg-x11 |
| 18:09.10 | pinotree | SiSteM[32]: #gentoo PLEASE |
| 18:09.28 | pinotree | SiSteM[32]: and STOP repeating the same question every minute |
| 18:10.04 | SiSteM[32] | ok sry |
| 18:10.24 | jay__ | can anyone help with a permissions problem? |
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| 18:22.51 | duvnell | does anyone know where the code lives that parses .desktop files? |
| 18:23.07 | drumhed | is amarok the only game in town for a post-itunes user? |
| 18:23.10 | drumhed | cause it sucks, frankly |
| 18:23.45 | Tm_T | "it sucks" doesn't tell what you need |
| 18:23.47 | duvnell | also look at kaffine |
| 18:24.00 | wolsni | drumhed: there are tons of music players for linux |
| 18:24.18 | logixoul | drumhed: for KDE, see if you like JuK or Noatun. |
| 18:24.19 | drumhed | Tm_T: however "it sucks" is a good way of summerizing the ammount of issues i have with it |
| 18:24.29 | drumhed | cool i'll try |
| 18:24.42 | drumhed | JuK, Noatun, and Kaffine? |
| 18:24.55 | logixoul | Kaffeine is mainly for video. |
| 18:25.00 | drumhed | k |
| 18:25.02 | duvnell | o |
| 18:25.05 | wolsni | drumhed: but not a good way of telling us what you're looking for |
| 18:25.18 | drumhed | the playlist ideology in amarok is just messing with me |
| 18:25.33 | drumhed | and i have pops/clicks and poor glitchy cross fading |
| 18:25.49 | Tm_T | well that's not amarok's fault I think |
| 18:26.04 | logixoul | drumhed: I know what you mean... I try to ignore it tho. |
| 18:26.07 | drumhed | a for-instance on the playlist issue: right now i have a blank playlist area, and i wanna add an album. it tells me that the tracks in the album are already in the playlist! |
| 18:26.09 | drumhed | argh |
| 18:26.26 | logixoul | hmm |
| 18:26.32 | logixoul | never happened to me. |
| 18:26.45 | logixoul | could you report a bug? |
| 18:27.19 | Tm_T | drumhed: Gentoo? |
| 18:27.38 | drumhed | yes |
| 18:27.47 | shadok | drumhed: are you sure you have nothing in the filter field ? |
| 18:27.54 | drumhed | yup |
| 18:28.01 | Tm_T | drumhed: oh how I don't be any surprised |
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| 18:28.04 | drumhed | i quit and reloaded the app and it works now |
| 18:28.26 | drumhed | using xinerama engine and alsa |
| 18:28.28 | Tm_T | err, I'm not surprised |
| 18:28.35 | shadok | strange, i never saw that, gentoo too |
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| 18:28.41 | logixoul | drumhed: xine, not xinerama ;) |
| 18:28.48 | drumhed | whatever ;-) |
| 18:28.49 | Tm_T | shadok: well, I have seen many fucked Gentoo builds |
| 18:29.00 | shadok | Tm_T: pebcak :D |
| 18:29.10 | Tm_T | shadok: and not only Amarok ;) |
| 18:29.26 | Tm_T | shadok: I don't say it's Gentoo's failure |
| 18:29.43 | drumhed | yeah.. forreal guys.. i have a spotless gentoo build on my laptop |
| 18:29.45 | shadok | hehe, you have th epower to mess up things too with gentoo :D |
| 18:29.50 | drumhed | and this is not my first rodeo by far |
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| 18:30.33 | drumhed | i just generally don't like amarok's behavior.. and there's no build in the world gonna solve that one |
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| 18:31.15 | Kyral | How can I make it in KMail so that when I reply, my signature appears before the replied to text? |
| 18:31.21 | shadok | it has way too much functionalities for me but i like it anyway |
| 18:31.29 | pinotree | that's what i call, "a positive attitude" |
| 18:31.37 | drumhed | the context tab is sweet |
| 18:31.51 | wolsni | drumhed: so get a different player and stop whining |
| 18:31.52 | pinotree | Kyral: don't think it's possible, yet |
| 18:31.58 | drumhed | will do |
| 18:31.59 | Kyral | The built in Magnatune store is awesome :D |
| 18:32.09 | Kyral | pinotree: hmm shouldn't be hard though no? |
| 18:32.22 | pinotree | i'm not a kmail developer |
| 18:32.29 | Kyral | (as in something who is looking to start helping more can do :D) |
| 18:32.34 | Kyral | mkay |
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| 18:41.55 | wolsni | are juk, amarok, and noatun really the only choices for music players in KDE? |
| 18:44.08 | Kyral | lol |
| 18:44.31 | Kyral | Kaffiene can TECHNICALLY play music...though you'd never want to use it for that |
| 18:44.57 | wolsni | well, I meant music-oriented |
| 18:45.17 | wolsni | like with a library and such |
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| 18:47.46 | wolsni | hmm, nothing on kde-apps.org |
| 18:47.49 | xlotlu | wolsni, amarok's (or juk's) playlist manager isn't powerful enough? |
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| 18:48.08 | wolsni | amarok is peachy |
| 18:48.25 | wolsni | i was just wondering |
| 18:48.34 | xlotlu | define peachy |
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| 18:49.19 | wolsni | there are many players for GTK/Gnome, but only a couple for KDE |
| 18:49.46 | wolsni | xlotlu: amarok acts exactly how I want a player to |
| 18:50.15 | wolsni | with the minor exception of the player window |
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| 18:51.49 | xlotlu | wolsni, make a feture request... or better yet code it :) |
| 18:51.59 | xlotlu | s/feture/feature/ |
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| 18:52.44 | wolsni | I'm holding off until I see how Amarok 2 comes out |
| 18:53.17 | xlotlu | wolsni, amarok is skinnable though. you dislike the small player window, or the "full" one? |
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| 18:53.38 | wolsni | 'skinnable'? |
| 18:53.38 | duvnell | oops |
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| 18:53.50 | wolsni | what amarok are YOU using? |
| 18:54.19 | xlotlu | err themeable |
| 18:54.35 | mardi_soir | FUUUUCKKK LE NAIN |
| 18:54.50 | xlotlu | wolsni, 1.4.4 |
| 18:55.09 | wolsni | i would prefer that the playlist button in the miniplayer toggle between the playlist and the miniplayer |
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| 18:55.39 | wolsni | rather than now where it causes both windows to be open simultaneously |
| 18:55.39 | GuySoft | #debian |
| 18:55.44 | GuySoft | hi all, i seem to be getting from 'xdpyinfo' that my DPI is 96, and not 75 like i want it to be - what should i do in order to set it right? using debian, xorg and KDE |
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| 18:59.12 | xlotlu | wolsni, you're just being picky :) |
| 19:00.03 | wolsni | i'm not posting a bug unless I have a patch for it anyway |
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| 19:03.09 | wolsni | i think i heard they might get rid of the miniplayer for 2.0 anyway |
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| 19:13.36 | expose | why wont avimerge -o all.avi -i 1.avi 2.avi make one valid avi file? sound works, but video consists of colored stripes only |
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| 19:17.58 | kirberich | hi, just a quick one: where do i find a battery kicker applet? |
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| 19:18.42 | wolsni | kirberich: klaptop provides a tray applet |
| 19:18.47 | kirberich | thanks a lot |
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| 19:19.14 | wolsni | kirberich: also, search kde-apps.org for thinkpad |
| 19:20.05 | kirberich | i whish all problems with this laptop could be solved that easily |
| 19:20.29 | wolsni | kpowersave is supposed to be better than klaptop, you could look into that too |
| 19:20.39 | Alethes | amazing, just introduced fish to my kde loving boss |
| 19:20.45 | Alethes | he's used it for a long time and never knew about fish |
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| 19:21.20 | wolsni | Alethes: fish should generally not be used unless sftp doesn't work |
| 19:21.26 | Alethes | ah |
| 19:21.31 | Alethes | I just use fish all the time heh |
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| 19:25.11 | dfeser | hi there |
| 19:25.38 | dfeser | how do i use the Fn key (notebook) for keyboard shortcuts? |
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| 19:31.57 | SubOne | I used KRDC to VNC to another computer at full screen with fit to screen, and the connection was lost, now my screen resolution is much lower, how can I fix it? And how can I stop it from happening in the future? |
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| 19:33.04 | wolsni | SubOne: use krandrtray, don't get cut off during fullscreen sessions |
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| 19:33.21 | SubOne | krandrtray... searching |
| 19:33.47 | wolsni | alt+f2, type in the name |
| 19:34.21 | wolsni | it makes a tray icon that lets you switch resolution |
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| 19:34.43 | SubOne | 1) alt+f2 does nothing 2) i cannot change my resolution at all |
| 19:35.05 | wolsni | no run dialog? |
| 19:35.31 | wolsni | meh, just restart Xorg |
| 19:35.35 | SubOne | i have that set to win+r |
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| 19:35.53 | bbeck | Does anyone know if there's a way to alter the color of the text in the taskbar? |
| 19:36.04 | SubOne | wolsni: that is an obvious solution that I am already aware, but that is hardly a solution at all |
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| 19:36.52 | SubOne | wolsni: That is how to fix the symptom not the problem |
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| 19:37.40 | wolsni | SubOne: if you can't switch resolutions then your Xorg is in an unknown state |
| 19:38.02 | wolsni | restarting it is the best way to fix that |
| 19:38.47 | SubOne | wolsni: My question is how do I fix the problem "Krdc f**ks up my resolution if I lose connection" |
| 19:39.46 | wolsni | that's probably something for bugs.kde.org |
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| 19:39.59 | wolsni | have you posted a bug? |
| 19:40.12 | wolsni | err, bug report |
| 19:40.41 | SubOne | wolsni: the problem is Krdc messed up my resolution and I dont want to restart X everytime i use VNC, the symptom is that my resolution is now changed, but fixing the symptom will not stop the symptom from reoccuring |
| 19:41.07 | SubOne | I wanted to ask in case it is a known bug and possibly has a fix before i start searching for the bug/submitting one |
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| 19:41.47 | wolsni | if there is a workaround it should be listed with the bug report |
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| 19:42.02 | eldkraft | how do I remove the leftside KDE logo in the K-menu? |
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| 19:43.38 | wolsni | right click the panel, choose Configure Panel->Menus->uncheck "show side image" |
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| 19:45.26 | eldkraft | wow, that was better. Thank you wolsni! |
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| 19:46.08 | wolsni | :) |
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| 19:54.13 | habeeb | Greetings, everytime I reboot my wallpaper resets to the blue background :/ |
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| 19:57.40 | geo-rge | Hi. I want to find out more about the kde sound system... specifically, is it possible to get it to create and open a jack connection anytime it wants to open a sound connection |
| 19:58.02 | geo-rge | also what's the project web site and/or other docs I can read |
| 20:00.17 | thiago | in KDE 4, it will be possible if someone writes a JACK backend |
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| 20:01.01 | kirberich | wolsni, i just tried kpowersave but it says dbus is not running, which it is though. any idea? |
| 20:01.22 | thiago | are you sure D-Bus is running? |
| 20:01.31 | thiago | is kpowersave complaining about the system bus or the session bus? |
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| 20:01.48 | kirberich | ps aux says "/usr/bin/dbus-daemon" |
| 20:01.57 | thiago | that's not enough information |
| 20:02.02 | thiago | what are the command-line arguments? |
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| 20:02.52 | kirberich | "/usr/bin/dbus-daemon --fork --print-pid 4 --print-address 6 --session" |
| 20:03.03 | thiago | that's the session bus |
| 20:03.14 | kirberich | also "dbus-launch --sh-syntax --exit-with-session" |
| 20:03.16 | thiago | did kpowersave say which bus it is trying to connect to but isn't able to? |
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| 20:04.22 | kirberich | nope, it just says "the dbus daemon is not running. Starting it will provide full functionality: /etc/init.d/dbus start" |
| 20:04.43 | thiago | given the command it suggested, it's probably the system bus |
| 20:04.47 | thiago | and it's really not running |
| 20:04.48 | thiago | run it |
| 20:05.59 | kirberich | ok, i restarted /etc/init.d/dbus, now there's also "/usr/bin/dbus-daemon --system" in ps aux, it still doesn't work though |
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| 20:06.42 | thiago | what is the error message now? |
| 20:06.50 | kirberich | the same |
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| 20:07.02 | thiago | make sure HAL is running |
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| 20:07.39 | kirberich | it doesn't seem to be, what's HAL? |
| 20:08.09 | kirberich | ah, that did it |
| 20:08.12 | kirberich | thank you thiago |
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| 20:10.46 | kirberich | thiago, hm no, it didn't after all. it shows the battery level now, but it still complains about dbus not running and doesn't offer me any configuration options |
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| 20:18.52 | geo-rge | thiago: ahh, ok... is a jack backend planned? -or- can the sound system have a module added, or like that? the sound system is arts, right? is arts a backend, or would a backend be written for arts? |
| 20:19.19 | thiago | if someone volunteers to write it, it'll be written |
| 20:19.25 | thiago | arts is gone |
| 20:19.46 | thiago | we're talking about Phonon |
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| 20:20.05 | kirberich | thiago, do you have any more ideas? |
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| 20:22.27 | thiago | kirberich: no |
| 20:22.55 | kirberich | too bad, well thanks anyway |
| 20:24.40 | pinotree | geo-rge: jack should be supported by the sound system (xine, gstreamer, etc), not by phonon itself |
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| 20:31.15 | geo-rge | phonon, ok |
| 20:31.34 | habeeb | Greetings, everytime I reboot my wallpaper resets to the blue background :/ |
| 20:32.00 | geo-rge | habeeb: one solution: stop rebooting!! :) |
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| 20:32.52 | geo-rge | habeeb: perhaps you would have to find a way to save your wallpaper settings... |
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| 20:35.00 | habeeb | geo-rge: isn't that, like, the default behavior? :/ |
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| 20:36.49 | DevianPeer | hi all |
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| 21:00.30 | dwyht | hola |
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| 21:03.49 | mrigns | lol, sarkozy and royal are keeping insulting each other... |
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| 21:17.27 | PC_genie | Hi there |
| 21:18.32 | PC_genie | is there any library of Snippets and Tutorials for KDevelop which i can download..? i was thinking about something from KDE or Trolltech |
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| 21:39.11 | mardi_soir | ahahaha elle l'a atttomisé |
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| 21:50.57 | xlotlu | is it possible to make klipper's action popup not steal focus? |
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| 21:53.03 | mardi_soir | pinotree: nous n'avons pas elevé les cochons ensemble , right ? |
| 21:53.08 | mardi_soir | idiot ? |
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| 21:53.20 | pinotree | a) here is an english channel |
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| 21:53.44 | mardi_soir | pinotree: i used the /amsg command .. . |
| 21:53.48 | shadok | ... |
| 21:53.58 | pinotree | b) things like <mardi_soir> FUUUUCKKK LE NAIN MUST not happen here |
| 21:54.02 | shadok | so the /kick message was right |
| 21:54.04 | pinotree | mardi_soir: i don't care |
| 21:54.27 | mardi_soir | pinotree: you don't want to .. .it is not spam .. just a cry ! |
| 21:54.32 | pinotree | if you don't pay attention about what _you_ do, it's not my problemù |
| 21:54.43 | pinotree | -ù |
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| 21:56.00 | mardi_soir | ahum ahum :) when i talk about kde i have no more respsonse ! i don't know the english word for "intransigeance mal placée " but if you undestrand you see what i meen about you |
| 21:56.04 | shadok | go cry out of there |
| 21:56.46 | mardi_soir | shadok: please you shut up ? :D |
| 21:56.51 | pinotree | if you think i'm "abusing" because i'm op, you are quite wrong |
| 21:56.56 | shadok | we don't give a shrimp (to stay polite) about your useless messages |
| 21:57.10 | pinotree | mardi_soir: the one that should shut up OR give excuses is you |
| 21:57.27 | mardi_soir | pinotree: not at all i m just vexed .. i explain you it was a cry not a spam object |
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| 21:58.06 | pinotree | if you were "vexed", i would have kicked and banned you now |
| 21:58.26 | pinotree | i kicked you because i did see two unrespectful messages here |
| 21:58.42 | pinotree | if you did understand your errors, good for you |
| 21:58.53 | pinotree | am i clear enough? |
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| 22:02.04 | yung_ | anybody use pulseaudio as sound server ? |
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| 22:03.13 | djbizie | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:03.30 | wolsni | #sabayon, djbizie |
| 22:03.46 | djbizie | when i set the desktop acceleration on XGL it doesent stay there, it just goes back to no acceleration.. |
| 22:03.54 | djbizie | oh.. sorry.. |
| 22:04.06 | wolsni | that's not a KDE problem, sorry |
| 22:04.53 | djbizie | thanks.. |
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| 22:07.04 | premier_ | how do I change the password for kde wallet? Im in kubuntu |
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| 22:08.05 | wolsni | open the wallet manager, right click on a wallet, and choose "change password" |
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| 22:09.21 | wolsni | typing kwalletmanager into the Run dialog would get you there if you can't find it in the menus |
| 22:10.56 | xlotlu | a bit disappointed with oxygen... or at least with the way it looks combined with plastik |
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| 22:11.05 | geo-rge | habeeb: (about if default behavior) good question... could you try finding out? what's the answer? |
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| 22:21.51 | kdepepo | hi |
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| 22:30.07 | XVampireX | Is there anything like durak for KDE? |
| 22:30.16 | XVampireX | durak is a russian card game |
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| 22:39.05 | archpollux | hi |
| 22:40.05 | icwiener | Isn't durak like dumbass? |
| 22:40.05 | archpollux | my keyboard layout in kde was set to evdev before, now I switched it back to 104-key and it keeps setting itself back to evdev every time i restart my session |
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| 22:40.34 | archpollux | i'm using 3.5.6 |
| 22:40.44 | archpollux | debian sid packages |
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| 22:47.52 | zamadara | anybody know how to get a printer set up when there are two printers of the exact same type? |
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| 22:48.13 | zamadara | in the add printer wizard, it wants a URI, which is like usb://Samsung/ML-2510 |
| 22:48.18 | archpollux | zamadara: give them two different names |
| 22:48.21 | zamadara | I want to tell it /dev/usblp1 |
| 22:48.38 | zamadara | archpollux: I can't |
| 22:48.44 | archpollux | why not? |
| 22:49.05 | zamadara | it won't let me, it appears they have 2 different names |
| 22:49.33 | zamadara | #1 and #2, but when I click on it, the #1 and #2 isn't there, same exact name on both |
| 22:49.45 | zamadara | this is step 2 in the add printer wizard |
| 22:50.02 | zamadara | so what I need to know is, what is the URI format for a device file? |
| 22:50.16 | zamadara | I tried file:///dev/usblp1 |
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| 22:51.42 | archpollux | zamadara: i think it's usb:///dev/... |
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| 22:54.44 | kdepepo | is ml2510 actually a good printer... my lexmak died last week, need a new one... |
| 22:56.37 | mardi | is there a way to tell konqueror not to wait for that last image to load before displaying a web page? (ie: konqueror hangs at "26 of 27 images loaded.") |
| 22:56.40 | kdepepo | was looking at the ml2010, but got disrecommendations because of its bad linux support |
| 22:57.12 | kdepepo | mardi, it needs its size |
| 22:57.21 | mardi | arrr ok |
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| 22:58.03 | oneforall | hmm donno but hp has been pretty good . pdc2175 I have |
| 22:58.13 | oneforall | d/s |
| 22:58.28 | kdepepo | bad web page... should explicitely mention size |
| 22:58.51 | mardi | aye, it's the pclinuxos home page :p |
| 22:58.58 | eegore | has anyone come up wit a build for 64 bit KTorrent newer that 2.1 |
| 22:59.06 | eegore | in a deb? |
| 22:59.44 | eegore | 2.1 keeps on crashing |
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| 23:00.06 | kdepepo | eegore, upgrade to 2.1.4 |
| 23:00.20 | kdepepo | eegore, known problem |
| 23:00.36 | eegore | got a repository? |
| 23:01.08 | eegore | or at least a source for a package that I can build? |
| 23:01.21 | kdepepo | oh, i always compile from source :) |
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| 23:01.37 | eegore | I was looking to make a source deb |
| 23:01.52 | kdepepo | eegore, www.ktorrent.org? |
| 23:02.01 | kdepepo | eek |
| 23:02.12 | kdepepo | without "?" |
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| 23:03.53 | eegore | kdepepo: from the output of the crashhandler, it looks like an error in the network socket |
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| 23:04.49 | kdepepo | eegore, since upgrading it never crashed for me |
| 23:05.31 | kdepepo | eegore, but yes, the bug is network related. |
| 23:06.20 | kdepepo | eegore, ve read somewhere it was a torrent client sending bad packets or commands |
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| 23:18.40 | zamadara | the ml2010 has excellent linux support, it's a postscript printer, doesn't even need drivers |
| 23:19.42 | zamadara | we like them because they print fast and they;re small, linux support has never been an issue for us |
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| 23:20.27 | kdepepo | z, i heard it uses SPL (samsung printer lang, gdi type) |
| 23:22.35 | Shirakawasuna | does anyone here know of an applet that works with cpufreq-utils? |
| 23:22.36 | zamadara | maybe you're right... |
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| 23:22.37 | Shirakawasuna | I have acpi set up to automatically do stuff for me but sometimes it'd be nice to be able to click and tell it I want the 'performance' setting |
| 23:22.58 | kdepepo | Shi, Kpowersave |
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| 23:24.37 | fungos | I have a dual-head with different dimensions here, when I try to maximize something, its span the window to the two monitors, where I set to maximize within one monitor? |
| 23:25.15 | fungos | another user on same machine does the correct maximize, I alread compared its conf to mine, but I havent found nothing |
| 23:25.18 | Shirakawasuna | kdepepo: thanks! |
| 23:26.40 | zamadara | so why does KDE have to name the printers the same thing? |
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| 23:29.17 | kdepepo | cu all |
| 23:30.03 | RushPL | hm, I just set a black theme in KDE, but my top Opera's bar is still white .. I suppose that's for all QT apps, how can I set a dark theme for QT apps ? |
| 23:31.37 | zamadara | why are my printers all /dev/usblp0 instead of /dev/usb/lp0 like they used to be? |
| 23:31.45 | zamadara | printer nightmare |
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| 23:44.48 | eegore | there is an issue I have with the cut and paste in KDE, when I try to paste something into a highlighted area, it will repaste was I wanted to replace |
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| 23:46.38 | eegore | is that a setting in clipper that I have to change |
| 23:47.34 | grepper | you probably want to separate clipboard and selection |
| 23:47.48 | grepper | so you can ctrl-c ctrl-v |
| 23:47.56 | eegore | ignore selection in the Klipper config>? |
| 23:48.58 | grepper | that is not what I said, but you are welcome to try that as well |
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| 23:56.40 | zamadara | where the hell does kde get this name? usb://Samsung/ML-2510%20Series |
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| 23:57.31 | zamadara | why do I need a printer URI? What happened to good old device files? |
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