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| 00:45.11 | Sweetandy | I have five gigs left on my hard drive. Is that plenty of space for KDE? |
| 00:45.18 | Terinjokes | can i ask where the kde4-osx crew chats? |
| 00:45.35 | wolsni | Sweetandy: should be, yes |
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| 00:49.25 | Sweetandy | wolsni: Thansk! |
| 00:49.27 | Sweetandy | thanks* |
| 00:49.34 | wolsni | np |
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| 01:04.53 | Troubled | Folks - is there any way to extract an ISO image directly into directory? |
| 01:05.35 | kdepepo | mount it using loop device |
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| 01:08.52 | Troubled | kdepepo: I have it on the hard drive - does it make things faster? |
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| 01:10.12 | kdepepo | well, i guess ext3 performance is better |
| 01:10.16 | Zangetsu- | Troubled: make a director in either media or mnt called iso then type mount locationofiso locationofnewfolder -t iso9660 -o loop |
| 01:10.24 | Zangetsu- | *directory |
| 01:11.12 | knapp | how can I get a panel to not be 'always on top; |
| 01:11.20 | Troubled | Zagetsu : cool - I get it. I am trying to copy data from 4GB DVD into the computer filewise and it is dang slow - do you think copying ISO to hardisk will make things faster? |
| 01:12.03 | Troubled | ? |
| 01:12.26 | kdepepo | knapp, kicker? |
| 01:12.34 | Troubled | Zangetsu? |
| 01:12.46 | halakar | hey guys, anyone here use any sort of docking program to replace the Panel in KDE? |
| 01:12.46 | knapp | kdepepo: yes |
| 01:12.53 | Zangetsu- | Troubled: well are u just trying to extract data from the dvd ? or are u trying to like rip a dvd video and compress it |
| 01:13.14 | Troubled | Zangetsu : just getting the data. It is a data CD |
| 01:13.16 | kdepepo | knapp, just configure it with... click right mouse on panel. |
| 01:13.34 | Troubled | Opps Data DVD |
| 01:13.41 | Troubled | Oops Data DVD |
| 01:13.51 | Zangetsu- | Troubled: have u tried making it an iso and if u have how fast was it |
| 01:13.59 | knapp | kdepepo: yow do you make it so windows go over top of it? |
| 01:14.15 | Troubled | I have it as an ISO on the DVD already - I am trying to extract all those files |
| 01:14.32 | Zangetsu- | oh so the iso is already on the hdd ? |
| 01:14.46 | Zangetsu- | ya it'll be faster if u just mount it instead of burn it on dvd if u're trying to extract files from it. |
| 01:15.08 | kdepepo | knapp, select "allow windows to cover panel" in the second tab |
| 01:15.50 | Troubled | From DVD directly it was taking like 3 MB per min. I will copy it as an ISO to harddisk and then extract using the mount as you suggested. Hope it will be 10x faster! |
| 01:15.56 | knapp | kdepepo crap >_< how did i not see that? Thanks very much. |
| 01:16.08 | kdepepo | knapp :) |
| 01:16.15 | Zangetsu- | wow 3MB per minute? lol. |
| 01:16.37 | Troubled | Zang : why it is soooooo slow? |
| 01:16.52 | Zangetsu- | maybe dma wasn't enabled on ur dvd drive ? |
| 01:17.03 | Troubled | Should check... |
| 01:17.12 | Troubled | Zang thanks for the tips... |
| 01:17.25 | Troubled | any other ideas? |
| 01:17.31 | Troubled | thanks all. |
| 01:18.59 | kdepepo | okey, low on battery... cu all |
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| 01:29.25 | DaSkreech | Doh! |
| 01:29.38 | DaSkreech | anyone read the KDE4 LXF mag? |
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| 02:05.15 | Sweetandy | I have installed KDE. Should I install KDM? |
| 02:05.27 | DaRtHo | is not necessary |
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| 02:05.37 | DaRtHo | u have gdm ? |
| 02:05.40 | Sweetandy | i do |
| 02:05.49 | DaRtHo | then is not necessary |
| 02:05.56 | Sweetandy | mmk thanks! |
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| 02:08.56 | halakar | Can someone tell me about these urpmi repositories for club members? Where are they? |
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| 02:09.29 | Jucato | halakar: please ask in your distro's channel |
| 02:09.46 | halakar | oh, wrong channel! sorry! |
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| 02:11.22 | spaz | every time i go to save my changes, it says there was an error saving the crontab |
| 02:11.30 | spaz | and nothing i save gets commited |
| 02:11.43 | spaz | i've tried it with and without root |
| 02:11.46 | spaz | fail :( |
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| 02:13.59 | kojiro | How can I, as root, send a message to all users? (like wall, but the users are using KDE, so they won't see console messages.) |
| 02:14.48 | spaz | i remember doing something similar to this |
| 02:14.53 | spaz | you should use a script |
| 02:15.10 | spaz | what you have to do is to do these steps: |
| 02:15.10 | Jucato | or kdialog |
| 02:15.12 | rohanpm | kojiro: there's a service in KDE to listen for wall messages, you could make them run that |
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| 02:15.17 | spaz | yeah, kdialog |
| 02:15.18 | kojiro | oh, good thought |
| 02:15.23 | spaz | but you have to switch to that user first |
| 02:15.36 | spaz | and do export DISPLAY=:x display they're on |
| 02:15.51 | spaz | it's easier to use a script for it |
| 02:16.18 | spaz | hmm...wtf is wrong with this thing? |
| 02:16.20 | spaz | >_> |
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| 02:18.14 | spaz | ah nm |
| 02:18.23 | spaz | i fixed it, but i'm unsure how |
| 02:18.24 | spaz | :/ |
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| 02:22.43 | Lanken | sign that I've been reading too much about processors: I think "ah nm" has something to do with nanometer scales. |
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| 02:58.11 | rajkt | Hi, can anybody tell me how to redirect the "make" command's stderr output to stdout? |
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| 02:58.18 | rajkt | I tried "make 2&>1" and it does not work.. |
| 02:59.32 | Kyral_Laptop | what about just 2 > 1 |
| 03:02.37 | Kyral_Laptop | or "make 2 > /dev/stdout" |
| 03:07.14 | rajkt | guys, how to dry run a make, ignoring any error.. just to get an idea of how many errors in the code.. |
| 03:07.23 | rajkt | guys, how to dry run a make, ignoring any error.. just to get an idea of how many errors in the code.. |
| 03:07.28 | Kyral_Laptop | dunno |
| 03:07.45 | rohanpm | rajkt: there is no way to "dry run" a make, you can't get compile errors until you actually compile |
| 03:08.00 | rohanpm | rohanpm: you can keep going in case of error though, with the '-k' option |
| 03:08.10 | rajkt | really? i thought there is a way.. |
| 03:08.14 | rohanpm | s/rohanpm/rajkt |
| 03:08.24 | rohanpm | rajkt: there might be a way to throw away what the compiler outputs |
| 03:09.08 | wolsni | there is the -k option |
| 03:09.32 | wolsni | it causes make to continue after errors if at all possible |
| 03:11.31 | Zangetsu | if i install the full kde module will i still be able to remove individual ebuilds if i won't be using certain programs later? |
| 03:11.49 | Zangetsu | with gentoo emerge portage stuff |
| 03:11.54 | wolsni | Zangetsu: that's a distro question |
| 03:12.28 | Zangetsu | kk |
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| 03:18.12 | rajkt | Hi in kdevelop, How to jump to variables's decleartion from it's usage? |
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| 03:34.18 | rajkt | Hi in kdevelop, I am choosing my own make script.. it does a chroot and then make.. problem is the errors are not listed in "problem view" any idea..? -- I asked in #kdevelop and did not get answer.. any body here if you know please help |
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| 03:43.08 | Zeek | how could i get program to run after kde has booted but also run it as root |
| 03:43.09 | Zeek | ? |
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| 03:43.44 | wolsni | Zeek: you could use sudo for that |
| 03:43.58 | Zeek | how would i do that? |
| 03:44.24 | Zeek | i want it to automatically start at boot |
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| 03:44.53 | wolsni | ie, set sudo not to ask for a password and then put a script in the kde autostart directory that runs sudo <whatever you wanted to do> |
| 03:45.06 | wolsni | wait, at boot? |
| 03:45.12 | wolsni | or at login? |
| 03:45.28 | Zeek | hmm |
| 03:45.30 | Zeek | probably login |
| 03:45.38 | wolsni | okay |
| 03:45.58 | wolsni | what i said is for something to run at login |
| 03:46.07 | Zeek | ill give it a try |
| 03:46.08 | Zeek | thanks :) |
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| 03:48.34 | Zeek | i cant remember, where is the Autostart directory at? |
| 03:48.50 | Zangetsu | try ~/.kde/Autostart |
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| 03:49.07 | wolsni | Zeek: there's a link to it in the Konqueror Go menu |
| 03:49.39 | Zeek | k, got it |
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| 03:54.02 | AmyRose | yay, I found a suitable mouse pad for my bed |
| 03:54.12 | AmyRose | no more touchpad! |
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| 04:07.23 | DaSkreech | Zeek: Have you asked his before? |
| 04:07.34 | Zeek | ? |
| 04:07.38 | Zeek | no |
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| 04:07.46 | Zeek | why? |
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| 04:09.15 | DaSkreech | Strange |
| 04:09.20 | Zeek | lol |
| 04:09.24 | DaSkreech | I dreamt about this conversation |
| 04:09.27 | Zeek | hahahah |
| 04:09.45 | Zeek | are you serious? |
| 04:09.51 | DaSkreech | Yeah |
| 04:09.52 | DaSkreech | same one |
| 04:10.13 | Zeek | lol |
| 04:10.43 | wolsni | you know you IRC too much when... |
| 04:14.11 | DaSkreech | Yeah |
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| 04:30.41 | AmyRose | apparently to get QtCurve to use the right icons in GTK programs I had to compile the deb myself |
| 04:31.09 | DaSkreech | ah god who put that 3million watt bulb on! |
| 04:31.27 | DaSkreech | Why doesn't ctrl+P bring up the prefrerences so I can turn it down |
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| 04:31.39 | AmyRose | hahaha |
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| 04:31.58 | DaSkreech | argh these green things tickle |
| 04:32.30 | Shirakawasuna | mv ~/socks /world/DaSkreech/feet |
| 04:32.40 | DaSkreech | and why is everyone draped in random pieces of cloth? and why are they pointing and staring? |
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| 04:33.09 | Shirakawasuna | cat /dev/urandom > /world/DaSkreech/penis |
| 04:33.09 | DaSkreech | Well screw you <tab><tab>..... |
| 04:33.11 | DaSkreech | this sucks |
| 04:33.23 | Shirakawasuna | there you go, you're all blurred out |
| 04:33.32 | DaSkreech | thanks :) |
| 04:33.34 | Shirakawasuna | randomly colored, more like |
| 04:33.36 | AmyRose | o.o' |
| 04:33.37 | Shirakawasuna | ;) |
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| 04:33.49 | AmyRose | oh my.. |
| 04:34.04 | AmyRose | I did not need to see that... |
| 04:34.09 | DaSkreech | Never seen a enum before? |
| 04:35.03 | DaSkreech | http://pykus.com/images/Happy_Venn.png |
| 04:35.05 | DaSkreech | :-) |
| 04:35.11 | AmyRose | you people are weird |
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| 04:36.57 | DaSkreech | I take responsibilty for that |
| 04:37.01 | DaSkreech | it's like late here |
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| 04:47.03 | DaSkreech | Well I now know what Kamion is |
| 04:47.05 | DaSkreech | Good night |
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| 06:07.39 | biohazrd | I have a malformed URL it wont let me delete |
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| 06:09.32 | biohazrd | it says access to trash:/public denied |
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| 06:33.28 | biohazrd | guess its a bug |
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| 06:48.01 | biohazrd | for system:/remote/NAS/public , it says it has a malformed URL and I cannot delete the thing |
| 06:48.21 | biohazrd | it has an icon of a dark globe, unlike the blue ones that work |
| 06:48.33 | biohazrd | can someone please tell me how to get rid of the thing? |
| 06:48.56 | biohazrd | It wont let me move it to the trash |
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| 06:50.12 | biohazrd | guess I will dink with it tomorrow.. my eyes are about ready to fall out tonight |
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| 08:10.16 | xushi | arf |
| 08:10.28 | xushi | http://xushi.co.uk/jserr.jpg |
| 08:10.41 | xushi | i keep getting this error trying to open or browse through gmail from konqueror |
| 08:10.50 | xushi | clicking continue judt brings another one and another.. |
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| 08:12.41 | PhilRod | xushi: then click "abort" :-) |
| 08:13.17 | xushi | that does nothing |
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| 08:16.35 | PhilRod | hrm |
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| 08:37.23 | SN^Vampire | hi |
| 08:37.40 | SN^Vampire | where i can find png for kde taskbar? |
| 08:39.59 | xushi | try /usr/kde/3.5/share/icons |
| 08:40.41 | annma | depends where your KDE is installed SN^Vampire |
| 08:42.31 | SN^Vampire | i mean, where i can find _more_ png's.. |
| 08:42.59 | mefisto | in internet |
| 08:43.25 | Fusselwurm|w0rk | try kde-look.org |
| 08:43.29 | SN^Vampire | give some links... can't find..:( |
| 08:43.55 | mefisto | 3if you cant find it |
| 08:44.00 | mefisto | then gou cant get it |
| 08:44.13 | annma | kde-look.org |
| 08:44.20 | annma | you cannot find that? |
| 08:44.35 | annma | and it's not the taskbar actually, it's the panel |
| 08:44.38 | annma | kicker |
| 08:44.48 | SN^Vampire | trying.. |
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| 09:12.55 | FuriousGeorge | hey all. is there any way to embed kate in konqueror in read/write mode? its "preview only" as far as i can tell |
| 09:14.05 | FuriousGeorge | im new to web-app development and ive used kdevelop for C, but for web development it seems to me it would be more useful to embed kate in konqueror |
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| 09:21.45 | FuriousGeorge | ive used kdevelop for C, but for web development it seems to me it would be more useful to embed kate in konqueror |
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| 09:23.49 | annma | why would it be more useful than having a separate kate? |
| 09:24.29 | annma | it's like all browser with View source, they open an external app |
| 09:24.33 | Skrot- | You may want to check out Quanta, FuriousGeorge |
| 09:25.38 | annma | yes Quanta has an editor and a preview |
| 09:27.00 | t|zz | hi everybody: is there a way to set the date in kickers time-applet transparent, as well as the time is? it is per default, but when i change it to a color i can't get it back transparent, only the clock gets transparent |
| 09:30.45 | FuriousGeorge | annma: i dunno, i thought it would be nice to have one tab be the source and the other be the page |
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| 09:31.08 | annma | Quanta is fro web development |
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| 09:32.57 | gromgull | Is it possible to use gnome icons themes with kde? |
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| 09:33.40 | annma | not sure in kde3 |
| 09:33.49 | annma | it'll be for kde4 as gnome and kde follow free desktop specs |
| 09:33.50 | gromgull | kde should support svg icon themes |
| 09:33.51 | gromgull | it says |
| 09:33.57 | gromgull | but i can't get it to work |
| 09:33.58 | annma | for the icon sets following this |
| 09:34.05 | annma | should? |
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| 09:34.30 | annma | kde uses png as svg->png on the fly is too demanding |
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| 09:34.55 | gromgull | annma: "should" is in it says several places that it does work - although default KDE themes are shipped as png |
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| 09:40.05 | Davo_Dinkum | How can I turn off sounds from KDE apps in GNOME? |
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| 09:54.16 | UnknownDream | hello |
| 09:54.35 | UnknownDream | I am using OpenSuSE 10.2, X server crash frequently, any help? |
| 09:54.52 | UnknownDream | error is: gconfd (burhan-9866): Received signal 15, shutting down cleanly |
| 09:55.19 | UnknownDream | error is: X server for display :0 terminated unexpectedly |
| 10:00.00 | UnknownDream | as there anyone to help me regard X-server restart |
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| 11:16.43 | ykphuah | is there a place to set mouse sensitivity? the control panel only gives acceleration and threshold |
| 11:18.03 | qupada | the 'acceleration' value adjusts the speed. it's somewhat of a misnomer |
| 11:18.23 | qupada | if you set it to '2x', the pointer will move twice as far for the same movement of the mouse |
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| 11:24.37 | esc | hi |
| 11:25.19 | esc | what the KDE filemanager command? |
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| 11:28.16 | Fusselwurm|w0rk | konqueror? |
| 11:28.26 | esc | if i do an "su" to become root i can't exectute konqueror . help |
| 11:28.33 | esc | Fusselwurm|w0rk: indeed :-) |
| 11:28.51 | esc | i know that i can ssh root@localhost -X |
| 11:29.02 | esc | but thats kinda hacky |
| 11:29.20 | esc | Xlib: connection to "unix:1031.0" refused by server |
| 11:29.21 | esc | Xlib: No protocol specified |
| 11:29.21 | esc | konqueror: cannot connect to X server unix:1031.0 |
| 11:29.22 | esc | Der Router ist so |
| 11:29.22 | esc | eingestellt das er nach einer stunde die Internetverbindung unterbricht, und sich bei bedarf einwählt. Es sind keine Ports weitergeleitet. MSN webmessenger |
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| 11:29.25 | esc | \texttt{http://webmessenger.msn.com/} wird geblockt. Es läuft ein DHCP server auf dem Router der dem Server und dem Admin PC eine IP zuweiset |
| 11:29.28 | esc | Xlib: connection to "unix:1031.0" refused by server |
| 11:29.31 | esc | Xlib: No protocol specified |
| 11:29.34 | esc | konqueror: cannot connect to X server unix:1031.0 |
| 11:29.35 | esc | sorry |
| 11:30.39 | qupada | esc: click the k menu button, run command, put 'kdesu konqueror' in the box |
| 11:30.54 | esc | kdesu, thats the one :-) |
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| 11:32.17 | esc | thank you very much qupada and Fusselwurm|w0rk |
| 11:32.51 | esc | the other thing i tried is sudo, but that spews out loads of nasty errors, but works despite |
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| 11:50.54 | shal3r | $ ktorrent |
| 11:50.54 | shal3r | kio (KMimeType): WARNING: KServiceType::offers : servicetype KTorrent/Plugin not found |
| 11:50.54 | shal3r | Qt: Warning: QObject::disconnect: Unexpected null parameter |
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| 11:51.05 | shal3r | how to understand and fix this thing about plugins? |
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| 12:47.38 | tapas | google started loading in konqueror again |
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| 12:47.52 | tapas | am i the only one that experienced this weird thing the last three days? |
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| 12:48.01 | tapas | [google refusing to load in konqueror] |
| 12:48.35 | Alethes | google works in konq for me |
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| 12:48.45 | Alethes | then again, I also have a fake useragent with google as safari |
| 12:48.57 | Alethes | don't know if that'd fix the issue |
| 12:49.11 | tapas | ataxic: checked and i had a different user agent string too |
| 12:49.17 | tapas | changing it back to the dfault didn't make a diff |
| 12:49.24 | tapas | google was complainign about malformed requests |
| 12:49.29 | Alethes | weird |
| 12:49.34 | Alethes | do you use a proxy server? |
| 12:49.34 | tapas | or i simplky got "conection broken" |
| 12:49.38 | tapas | nope |
| 12:49.41 | tapas | everything else worked |
| 12:49.48 | tapas | google worked fine in every other browser too |
| 12:49.57 | tapas | but since the situation is fixed now, i cannot really investiogate |
| 12:50.05 | Alethes | yeah |
| 12:50.20 | Alethes | it could be the way kio_http works, with multiple requests |
| 12:50.42 | Alethes | it opens a new connection for every object |
| 12:50.59 | Alethes | so basically it's pipelining, but without any restrictions |
| 12:51.09 | tapas | hm |
| 12:51.34 | Alethes | I had a wireless highspeed ISP for a while and I couldn't use konq 'cause that "feature" killed my connection due to radio time |
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| 12:52.20 | tapas | i see |
| 12:52.29 | tapas | konqueror also doesn't play so nice with my router |
| 12:52.34 | tapas | when the router acts as nameserver |
| 12:52.44 | tapas | using the nameservers of my isp directly fixed that too |
| 12:52.48 | Alethes | weird |
| 12:53.13 | tapas | [i read somewhere that koqnueror simply hammered out to many dns rewquests for this poor router to handle] |
| 12:53.24 | Alethes | that'd be kio_http again |
| 12:53.31 | tapas | yeah |
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| 12:53.47 | tapas | is there a reason kio_http is implemented that way? |
| 12:53.51 | tapas | i mean a good reason? |
| 12:53.52 | tapas | ;) |
| 12:53.54 | Alethes | there's apparently some way to throttle the number of instances, but I can't figure it out |
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| 12:54.03 | Alethes | nah, it breaks standards, too |
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| 12:54.11 | tapas | ugh |
| 12:54.20 | Alethes | think about it |
| 12:54.38 | Alethes | the rfc says pipelining should only do maybe 2-3 requests at a time |
| 12:54.45 | tapas | i'm not too much into internet rfc's ;) |
| 12:54.49 | tapas | Alethes: ah ok |
| 12:54.52 | Alethes | maybe 4, which is what firefox does |
| 12:54.57 | tapas | yeah then it clearly vilates the standard is uppose |
| 12:54.59 | Alethes | by default, anyway |
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| 12:55.23 | Alethes | kio_http just loads more and more requests until everybody complains |
| 12:55.24 | Alethes | heh |
| 12:55.33 | tapas | ;) |
| 12:55.40 | Alethes | if it could be throttled somehow, it'd be fine, I thinkj |
| 12:56.03 | Alethes | I actually wrote a simple bash script to kill kio_http processes older than 60 secs, but that didn't really work well |
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| 12:56.27 | Alethes | I mean, it killed the processes and kept my connection active, but I couldn't get anything that took longer than a min to download :) |
| 12:56.37 | tapas | ugh |
| 12:56.59 | Alethes | yeah, I ditched that idea and went with firefox |
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| 12:57.06 | Alethes | now I'm off that ISP, so I use konq again |
| 12:57.26 | tapas | hmm |
| 12:57.31 | tapas | that needs to be fixed is uppose |
| 12:59.16 | Alethes | konq is really nice otherwise |
| 12:59.23 | tapas | yah i like it too |
| 12:59.31 | tapas | there's some weirdnesses |
| 12:59.50 | tapas | [i.e. if i press play on some video inlined in a story on spiegel.de [a german newsmag] |
| 13:00.06 | tapas | as soon as the video starts playign konqueror switches to a different tab ;)] |
| 13:00.23 | tapas | http://www.spiegel.de/panorama/justiz/0,1518,482979,00.html |
| 13:00.30 | Alethes | heh |
| 13:00.36 | tapas | i.e. have soem tabs open and press play on that video |
| 13:01.02 | tapas | o that has stopped too |
| 13:01.03 | tapas | weird |
| 13:01.08 | Alethes | haha |
| 13:01.12 | Alethes | what version of kde? |
| 13:01.21 | tapas | 3.5.6 |
| 13:01.26 | Alethes | what distro? |
| 13:01.29 | tapas | ubuntu |
| 13:01.34 | Alethes | same here |
| 13:01.35 | tapas | that was the same on debian, too though |
| 13:01.38 | Alethes | well, here at work I have mandriva |
| 13:01.41 | Alethes | (which I hate) |
| 13:01.46 | tapas | ah i think i know why |
| 13:01.51 | Alethes | ? |
| 13:02.06 | tapas | yah |
| 13:02.23 | tapas | if i leave the spiegel.de site open and open the story in a new tab then it happens again |
| 13:02.40 | tapas | so i'm conditioned to hover the mouse pointer over the right tab after pressing play |
| 13:02.50 | tapas | this way i can switch back fast to the tab where the video plays.. |
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| 13:02.58 | tapas | might be a spiegel.de problem though |
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| 13:04.29 | tapas | ah well at least it dos play |
| 13:04.32 | tapas | as opposed to firefox |
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| 13:16.13 | mardi_soir | hello i d like kde to not use .part extenstion .. i do not find where to tell it .. |
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| 13:18.01 | annma | mardi_soir: .part extension? |
| 13:18.10 | annma | how does kde use it? |
| 13:18.29 | annma | what program uses it? |
| 13:18.31 | Jucato | annma!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 13:18.35 | annma | hey Jucato |
| 13:18.57 | annma | :) |
| 13:19.12 | mark_alec | annma: i think programs such as kget have a .part when downloading |
| 13:19.13 | annma | mardi_soir: ? |
| 13:19.22 | mardi_soir | annma, when you download or upload a file or something like that during the action . the file is name.part |
| 13:19.37 | Jucato | mardi_soir: that means that the file hasn't finished downloading yet |
| 13:19.43 | mardi_soir | Jucato, i know |
| 13:19.44 | Jucato | it's not a permanent file extension. |
| 13:19.45 | annma | mardi_soir: so you want KGet for ex name that .part something else? |
| 13:20.11 | mardi_soir | i do not use kget ... only konqueror .. i just want him to not use this extenstion |
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| 13:22.25 | Jucato | annma: was/is KSirc your IRC client? |
| 13:22.36 | annma | it was |
| 13:22.49 | annma | I switched to Konvi recently |
| 13:22.52 | Jucato | ah :) |
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| 13:24.01 | Alethes | *shudder* |
| 13:24.19 | Jucato | hm... it looks... um... "different" :D |
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| 13:25.12 | Jucato-drak | heh hi annma (again) |
| 13:25.24 | annma | I miss it for some stuff like the icon telling you someone spoke to you |
| 13:25.36 | annma | tooltips disappear |
| 13:25.47 | mark_alec | annma: you can set it up so that the systemtray icon flashes |
| 13:27.13 | annma | so many options |
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| 13:27.43 | annma | i don't find it in Notifications |
| 13:28.26 | Jucato-drak | annma: konvi or ksirc? |
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| 13:28.38 | annma | konvi |
| 13:28.52 | annma | I know ksirc by heart as I wrote some doc for it |
| 13:28.55 | Jucato | ah you want the system tray icon to flash if your nick has been highlighted? |
| 13:29.02 | annma | and I used it for a few years |
| 13:29.05 | annma | yes |
| 13:29.09 | annma | I do |
| 13:29.14 | annma | :> |
| 13:29.26 | Jucato | annma: Configure Konversation -> Behavior -> General |
| 13:29.56 | annma | ok thanks |
| 13:30.10 | Jucato-drak | you're very much welcome :) |
| 13:30.28 | Kyral_Laptop | Morning.... |
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| 13:30.46 | Kyral_Laptop | wtf two Jucatos? Am I drunk and not knowing it? |
| 13:31.06 | Jucato-drak | yep you are :) |
| 13:31.08 | annma | yes, i see only 1 |
| 13:31.21 | annma | 0_0 |
| 13:31.24 | Kyral_Laptop | Jucato and Jucato-drak |
| 13:31.25 | Kyral_Laptop | :P |
| 13:31.26 | Kyral_Laptop | lol |
| 13:32.09 | annma | drak not drunk |
| 13:32.36 | Jucato | :P |
| 13:33.01 | Jucato | I'm testing out ksirc on 'driva. sorry for the schizophrenia :D |
| 13:33.25 | Kyral_Laptop | mkay |
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| 13:34.05 | Jucato | hehe |
| 13:34.16 | Jucato | annma: what does HEAD mean in the KDevelop docs? |
| 13:34.44 | Kyral_Laptop | It probably refers to the most current revision in SVN |
| 13:35.03 | Jucato | ah... hm.. |
| 13:35.07 | Jucato | wonder why they call it HEAD.. |
| 13:35.11 | Kyral_Laptop | but IANKD |
| 13:35.18 | Fusselwurm|w0rk | because theres manymanymany revisions in svn |
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| 13:35.37 | Kyral_Laptop | (I Am Not A KDE Developer) :P |
| 13:35.43 | annma | because HEAD was what trunk is |
| 13:35.44 | icwiener | HEAD is the newest revision, BASE the working copy, ... |
| 13:35.50 | annma | the doc is badly outdated |
| 13:35.55 | Kyral_Laptop | ah |
| 13:35.58 | icwiener | Right, that was CVS stuff, right? |
| 13:36.02 | annma | yes |
| 13:36.16 | annma | and some guy said he'll write the doc |
| 13:36.21 | icwiener | Works in subversion, though. :) |
| 13:36.29 | annma | so that prevented other contributors |
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| 13:36.53 | Jucato | aaaah |
| 13:36.54 | annma | Jucato: btw who is the guy who said he is writing a book about kDE 4 devel already? |
| 13:37.00 | Jucato | so HEAD in CVS = Trunk in SVN |
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| 13:37.06 | annma | yes |
| 13:37.10 | Jucato | annma: lol that would be monzie :D |
| 13:37.27 | annma | thanks Jucato |
| 13:37.52 | icwiener | Jucato: HEAD == trunk is a bit simplified, because the two systems handle stuff differently. |
| 13:37.57 | Alethes | think we'll see a lot more scripted apps using PyQT and the like with KDE4? |
| 13:38.22 | Kyral_Laptop | Probably because of Kross |
| 13:38.27 | Jucato | icwiener: hm... ok... anything more complex than that analogy would make my head explode right now :) |
| 13:38.28 | Alethes | that's what I figured |
| 13:38.31 | Kyral_Laptop | ...Kross makes me drool :D |
| 13:38.42 | icwiener | Jucato: lool |
| 13:38.59 | Kyral_Laptop | never got into Python.. |
| 13:39.02 | Jucato | kjs? :D |
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| 13:39.05 | icwiener | Jucato: I know what you mean. Working with those systems helps a lot. |
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| 13:39.33 | Kyral_Laptop | back to Yakitate!! Japan |
| 13:39.42 | annma | Alethes: we'll see them if they are written |
| 13:39.57 | annma | the technology is there and is waiting for devels |
| 13:40.04 | Jucato | annma: I had the strangest experience with ODF/KWord/OO.o today btw... |
| 13:40.14 | Alethes | I just wonder if there will be a lot of performance issues when we start using scripted apps |
| 13:40.46 | Jucato | I was previously ranting on inconsistency on how the 2 apps implemented numbering. but suddenly, one of my docs was displayed properly in both apps... |
| 13:40.47 | annma | Alethes: they'll likely be smal apps |
| 13:40.49 | bram85 | Alethes: it seems the difference is hardly noticable with KDE apps written in Python |
| 13:40.54 | Alethes | cool |
| 13:41.13 | Alethes | I'd like to see an opportunity to extend apps with PyQT, like kdevelop |
| 13:41.16 | annma | the problem is dependencies as pykde |
| 13:41.29 | annma | Alethes: you mean a template in kdevelop? |
| 13:41.36 | Alethes | no |
| 13:41.43 | Alethes | I mean plugins, for new tabs |
| 13:41.53 | annma | new tabs? |
| 13:41.56 | Alethes | for example, a bucket/knotes tab plugin |
| 13:42.13 | annma | in kdevelop? |
| 13:42.15 | Alethes | yep |
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| 13:42.28 | annma | hmm |
| 13:42.33 | Alethes | also a klogviewer tab |
| 13:42.56 | annma | I had a look at kdevelop 3 code so I htink now that kdevelop is a dinosaur |
| 13:43.07 | annma | that sort of froze me about kdevelop |
| 13:43.29 | Jucato | aw... I was hoping to bombard you with kdevelop questions later on.... |
| 13:43.38 | Jucato | when, or rather *if*, I reach that point :/ |
| 13:44.09 | icwiener | annma: I froze while looking at the code of kteatime. ;) |
| 13:44.10 | annma | lol |
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| 13:44.16 | annma | really? lust not be big though |
| 13:44.21 | Jucato | I managed to thaw myself when I looked into some kcontrol modules :) |
| 13:44.56 | icwiener | annma: Yes, I am not really familiar with code. I managed to "repair" the ui though. :) |
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| 13:45.50 | annma | icwiener: :) |
| 13:46.18 | icwiener | Jucato: I think that stuff it a bit too complex. Try some stuff that's more independent. |
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| 13:46.38 | Jucato | icwiener: hm... too late. I already made 2 patches :P |
| 13:46.49 | Jucato | which never got checked or anything. no worries :) |
| 13:47.00 | Jucato | it kinda duplicates smileaf's tweaK anyway |
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| 13:47.39 | slicslak | i want to run a command line and insert the results directly into quanta. how can i do this? |
| 13:47.56 | icwiener | annma: Before: http://img527.imageshack.us/my.php?image=kteatimebeforesm8.png |
| 13:48.04 | icwiener | annma: After: http://img524.imageshack.us/my.php?image=kteatimeafterdf9.png |
| 13:48.56 | annma | nice icwiener |
| 13:49.24 | icwiener | annma: Yeah, It took me about a week to do that. But I learned much about layouting. ;) |
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| 13:50.12 | etnt | Hi, are there a KDE tool that helps me keeping track on the amount of time I've been working on different projects ? |
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| 13:51.10 | Jucato | etnt: Karm? |
| 13:51.10 | etnt | ok, will check it out, thx! |
| 13:54.00 | halakar | hey guys. I can't seem to preview .svg files in konqueror. anyone know why? |
| 13:54.56 | smileaf | o.o |
| 13:55.04 | Jucato | hm... wild guess, is ksvg installed? |
| 13:55.25 | x_link | Hi guys! |
| 13:55.39 | x_link | Is there any "shortcut-command" to pop-up my konsole? |
| 13:56.07 | icwiener | x_link: Do you know Yakuake? |
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| 13:56.42 | x_link | I used it once, but I didn't like it what i remember. |
| 13:57.08 | icwiener | That'd be a shortcur for a konsole window. :) |
| 13:57.13 | icwiener | *shortcut |
| 13:57.17 | halakar | Jucato: no, it's not. Is that why? I'm installing it now |
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| 13:57.46 | x_link | icwiener: Okej. |
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| 13:58.13 | x_link | icwiener: I was of thinking like Ctrl+Alt+k or something like that. When do that combination I want konsole to pop-up. |
| 13:58.27 | halakar | Installed |
| 13:58.29 | halakar | let me try again |
| 13:58.42 | icwiener | x_link: Maybe you can define a shortcut withe a kstart command. |
| 13:58.51 | x_link | icwiener: Do you know how to do that? |
| 13:58.59 | smileaf | x_link: there actually is an input action defined to start it via ctrl+alt+t but its by default disabled. |
| 13:59.02 | Jucato | icwiener: or the Window Specific rules |
| 13:59.09 | halakar | sweet, it's working |
| 13:59.11 | x_link | smileaf: Okej, where do I enable it? |
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| 13:59.17 | halakar | Thank you Jucato |
| 13:59.22 | Jucato | um... Input Actions? :D |
| 13:59.40 | smileaf | x_link: kcontrol -> Reg & Acc -> Input Actions |
| 14:00.14 | smileaf | Its in Examples (be sure to enable Examples and the Run Konsole action) |
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| 14:02.28 | x_link | smileaf: hrmm |
| 14:02.30 | x_link | Nothing happens |
| 14:02.39 | x_link | Disable (group is disabled) |
| 14:02.49 | x_link | That was checked, I uncecked it but it still doesn't work |
| 14:03.16 | smileaf | in both Examples and Run Konsole? |
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| 14:04.13 | x_link | smileaf: Ohh.. I forgot to do it in Examples |
| 14:04.20 | x_link | smileaf: Thanks alot man! I really appreciate it =) |
| 14:07.17 | x_link | Changed it from Ctrl+Alt+T to Alt+K |
| 14:07.23 | x_link | smileaf: Thanks for your help mate =) |
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| 14:25.32 | meragrin | Any ideas on how to get KDE to display UTF-8 filenames correctly? |
| 14:25.44 | [square_bracket] | it should |
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| 14:25.59 | [square_bracket] | set your locale to something utf8 |
| 14:26.55 | meragrin | It's set to en_US.UTF-8 according to locale. |
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| 14:30.46 | annma | meragrin: so what is not crect? |
| 14:31.08 | annma | filenames in koq? |
| 14:31.11 | annma | konq |
| 14:31.17 | meragrin | Partly, yes. |
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| 14:32.34 | annma | explain? |
| 14:32.35 | meragrin | Saving files with japanese chars in other KDE apps doesn't work either. |
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| 14:32.58 | annma | one problem at a time and explain |
| 14:32.58 | meragrin | Works fine in everything not KDE. |
| 14:33.18 | annma | example? |
| 14:33.23 | meragrin | I'm pretty sure they're related. |
| 14:33.47 | annma | tell me a precise example |
| 14:33.53 | meragrin | I have files with Japanese characters that are display with garbage. |
| 14:34.03 | annma | in konq? |
| 14:34.09 | annma | screenshot? |
| 14:34.32 | meragrin | Where should I paste the screenshot? |
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| 14:36.10 | annma | image shack |
| 14:36.11 | meragrin | Ok, something changed. Now it's showing them correctly. |
| 14:36.24 | annma | oh? cool |
| 14:36.29 | annma | next problem? |
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| 15:05.36 | justlinux | g'morning/evening |
| 15:05.42 | justlinux | anyone around? |
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| 15:07.03 | Sho_ | justlinux: yup |
| 15:07.05 | bram85 | justlinux: just ask your question... |
| 15:07.07 | Fusselwurm|w0rk | just ask your question |
| 15:07.26 | justlinux | k |
| 15:07.37 | Jucato | just ask your questions |
| 15:07.39 | justlinux | i just realized, the channel i am in |
| 15:07.41 | Sho_ | bram85: sorry for the reopen this morning btw, I had instinctively closed the higher bug no. as dupe of the lower one and missed your earlier close of said lower one |
| 15:07.44 | Jucato | (sorry couldn't resist :D) |
| 15:07.46 | justlinux | i need help with sabayon |
| 15:07.53 | justlinux | this is for the kde |
| 15:07.57 | justlinux | sorry fellas |
| 15:07.59 | Sho_ | justlinux: #sabayon would be for Sabayon |
| 15:08.01 | bram85 | Sho_: oh, it's ok |
| 15:08.02 | Jucato | yeah, #sabayon for Sabayon |
| 15:08.07 | justlinux | k |
| 15:08.09 | justlinux | 'thanks |
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| 15:13.44 | [square_bracket] | still the same problems with Sabayon? |
| 15:13.49 | [square_bracket] | heh |
| 15:13.57 | Gentle` | sabayon IS a problem ;) |
| 15:14.07 | crackbone | what problems with sabayon? :P |
| 15:14.28 | [square_bracket] | its users going here for support |
| 15:14.37 | crackbone | hehe |
| 15:14.52 | crackbone | i dont need support.. everything works well in sabayon :D |
| 15:15.00 | [square_bracket] | Gentle`: ehm.. please remind... sabayon is branch of Gentoo? |
| 15:15.25 | Gentle` | [square_bracket]: you know, it's not a local problem. They keep visiting #gentoo aswell, talking about problems nobody ever encountered which in the end are results of weird binaries |
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| 15:16.00 | [square_bracket] | oh |
| 15:16.07 | [square_bracket] | just one more ^^^^ |
| 15:16.10 | justlinux | hmm, the reason for peeps coming in here, is that Konversation, is configed to start and join this channel on the livecd |
| 15:16.19 | bram85 | sabayon looks tasteful though |
| 15:16.23 | crackbone | it is |
| 15:16.24 | [square_bracket] | yeah, and it IS a Sabayon fault |
| 15:16.57 | Gentle` | sabayon the meal is actually quite tasteful |
| 15:17.12 | crackbone | i am very satisfied with sabayon... |
| 15:17.21 | [square_bracket] | hm |
| 15:17.43 | [square_bracket] | However I'm using a binary-based distro, I see no sense in producing gentoo binaries |
| 15:17.50 | [square_bracket] | anyway, it's not #kde topic |
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| 15:18.03 | crackbone | no |
| 15:18.26 | crackbone | still, i think it is the most successful desktop distro to this date. |
| 15:19.03 | Alethes | all the people joining here from the sabayon cd are using a *!sabayon*@*!* mask, think |
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| 15:19.22 | Alethes | maybe the second ! isn't needed |
| 15:19.27 | Gentle` | crackbone: depends how you define success, in almost any criteria, Ubuntu would be first |
| 15:19.31 | Alethes | but I bet it'd be possible to ban based on that mask |
| 15:19.52 | [square_bracket] | Alethes: the best we can do is to tell a bot to invite them to #sabayon on join. No ban. |
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| 15:19.59 | Alethes | heh |
| 15:20.00 | Alethes | :D |
| 15:20.05 | Alethes | a ban is more fun :) |
| 15:21.43 | [square_bracket] | hm |
| 15:21.45 | [square_bracket] | will plasma be composite wm-compatible? |
| 15:21.45 | [square_bracket] | or elsehow |
| 15:21.45 | crackbone | well, since sabayon is not so widespread yet, i think ubuntu is more successful in that matter. however, having used ubuntu and sabayon (currently) i think sabayon is far more useable, well made and _intuitive_ |
| 15:21.46 | [square_bracket] | I want to have some sort of a root window beyond bery/compiz cube |
| 15:21.46 | Gentle` | [square_bracket]: KDE4 will include a composite wm |
| 15:21.47 | [square_bracket] | crackbone: eh |
| 15:22.16 | [square_bracket] | crackbone: all the distros do differ by 2 things: (a) build system and (b) patches used |
| 15:22.20 | Jucato | if Ubuntu is African for "can't install Debian", Sabayon would be Italian for "can't install Gentoo"... |
| 15:22.22 | [square_bracket] | nothing more, nothing less |
| 15:22.39 | crackbone | Gentoo's big hang is the bad installation |
| 15:22.52 | [square_bracket] | yeah? |
| 15:22.52 | Alethes | Jucato: that's pretty funny, but to be fair, I'm a long time slackware and freebsd user that switched to kubuntu |
| 15:23.02 | [square_bracket] | how often do you install linux on your box? |
| 15:23.05 | icwiener | Sabayons big mess is the use flag hell, they configured. |
| 15:23.18 | Jucato | Alethes: the Ubuntu part of the phrase is an old Ubuntu joke |
| 15:23.23 | crackbone | [square_bracket]: i disagre.. they differ also by the way they are made, and "bundled". For example such a small thing as viewing youtube. |
| 15:23.26 | Jucato | I didn't invent it :D |
| 15:23.28 | Alethes | hehe |
| 15:23.38 | [square_bracket] | crackbone: oh dear |
| 15:23.57 | [square_bracket] | I'm sure I can make youtube to watch |
| 15:23.59 | Jucato | ok... #kde is slowly turning into #distro-discuss :) |
| 15:24.00 | tuxick | ubuntu out of box won't play media either |
| 15:24.00 | [square_bracket] | in any distro |
| 15:24.07 | tuxick | thanks to idiotic american law |
| 15:24.22 | tuxick | but indee |
| 15:24.24 | [square_bracket] | Jucato: ...and now to #politics-discuss |
| 15:24.36 | [square_bracket] | maybe we'll stop? |
| 15:24.38 | tuxick | back to kde! where did my icons go |
| 15:24.47 | crackbone | with all other distros ive had to manually install libs plugins and stuff that i dont really want to waste time with |
| 15:25.03 | [square_bracket] | tuxick: may they have hidden in /usr/share/icons? :D |
| 15:25.03 | tuxick | even when logging in as new user i have missing icons and not a single clue where to look, or where kde looks |
| 15:25.14 | tuxick | not all of them, just a bunch |
| 15:25.17 | wolsni | tuxick: missing icons where? |
| 15:25.20 | tuxick | throughout upgrades |
| 15:25.36 | tuxick | wolsni: the konqueror topright one, amarok has none |
| 15:25.45 | wolsni | toolbars, menus, desktop? |
| 15:25.53 | [square_bracket] | crackbone: I'm patient enough to install and configure everyhting I need once in five years |
| 15:25.55 | tuxick | kbluetoothd icon is also gone |
| 15:25.57 | wolsni | is it just for window titles? |
| 15:26.00 | crackbone | just hope that they manage to make sabayon even better as time goes :) its really promising now at least |
| 15:26.08 | crackbone | hehe |
| 15:26.21 | tuxick | wolsni: in amarok they're all gone, including from taskbar |
| 15:26.24 | wolsni | crackbone: that can be said of ANY distro |
| 15:26.27 | [square_bracket] | crackbone: but I have a control over my system |
| 15:26.33 | tuxick | getting that question mark icon instead |
| 15:26.34 | crackbone | thats just the sort of things i dont want to do |
| 15:26.46 | crackbone | what kind of system do you run? |
| 15:26.47 | tuxick | i'm sure it's hidden in some config file but where |
| 15:27.00 | [square_bracket] | crackbone: home box/home http/ssh server |
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| 15:27.12 | crackbone | sure.. |
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| 15:27.23 | crackbone | i use sabayon purely for desktop |
| 15:27.33 | wolsni | tuxick: the icons should be loaded from $KDEDIR/share/icons, I believe |
| 15:27.44 | crackbone | centos for server. |
| 15:28.45 | [square_bracket] | I second that there's no different between distros, other than that form a developer view |
| 15:28.56 | [square_bracket] | s/form/from/ |
| 15:29.19 | tuxick | wolsni: most are loaded |
| 15:29.26 | tuxick | so i guess there's several locations |
| 15:29.31 | [square_bracket] | tuxick: anyway try to use kcontrol to sort this out |
| 15:29.34 | wolsni | [square_bracket]: hey, you can't second yourself :P |
| 15:29.57 | [square_bracket] | change an icon theme and than once again back |
| 15:30.00 | crackbone | well i agree to some extent |
| 15:30.00 | wolsni | tuxick: you can also have icons in ~/.kde/share/icons |
| 15:30.03 | tuxick | how can kcontrol fix the button icons of amarok, for example? |
| 15:30.10 | tuxick | wolsni: i also tried as new user |
| 15:30.26 | crackbone | what do you guys think about beryl? |
| 15:30.31 | wolsni | kcontrol's icon settings apply to all kde apps |
| 15:30.53 | wolsni | except amarok, IF amarok is set to use its own icon set |
| 15:31.07 | [square_bracket] | wolsni: ah, yeah, misread princeton's wordnet at some point in my life |
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| 15:32.12 | tuxick | well a core icon like konquerors own should never be lost |
| 15:32.15 | [square_bracket] | wolsni: to second means to support something |
| 15:32.28 | tuxick | oh well |
| 15:32.45 | tuxick | so there's no secret config file i just can't find? |
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| 15:35.23 | [square_bracket] | tuxick: I suppose there isn't, however kcontrol writes something to ~/.kde/share/config/??? for shure |
| 15:36.10 | tuxick | [square_bracket]: kcontrol did englighten me |
| 15:36.17 | tuxick | selected another iconset |
| 15:36.30 | tuxick | so turns out kde-classic is incomplete :) |
| 15:37.27 | tuxick | \o/ |
| 15:37.27 | tuxick | cheers :) |
| 15:37.28 | tuxick | ok, back to distwars! |
| 15:37.38 | Alethes | anybody remember Ygdrasil? |
| 15:38.02 | [square_bracket] | Alethes: only by the name ;( |
| 15:38.04 | Alethes | it was the popular distro for a little while in the late 90s |
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| 15:38.19 | Alethes | hehe |
| 15:38.35 | vignesh | me too I started with RH9 |
| 15:38.44 | [square_bracket] | vignesh: and what now? |
| 15:38.45 | Alethes | I started with slack 4 |
| 15:38.51 | vignesh | But started using Linux mainly after ubuntu 4.10 released |
| 15:38.56 | [square_bracket] | hehe |
| 15:39.01 | vignesh | now I use BSD mainly |
| 15:39.15 | Alethes | I used freebsd for about a year |
| 15:39.17 | Alethes | still use it on my server |
| 15:39.30 | vignesh | or Fedora , Debian , Slackware , PcLOS I keep changing so I don`t get bored :) |
| 15:39.54 | vignesh | [square_bracket]: Me too.. Didn`t use it more than that |
| 15:39.54 | Alethes | virtualization is useful for that kinda playing :) |
| 15:40.09 | vignesh | I used Fedora Core 3 for the most amount of time |
| 15:40.23 | [square_bracket] | Alethes: too bad my Athlon64 is S939 and is incapable of KVM |
| 15:40.31 | Alethes | doh |
| 15:40.50 | vignesh | [square_bracket]: Ur still on arch ? |
| 15:40.55 | [square_bracket] | yeah |
| 15:41.03 | vignesh | 0.8 ? Voodoo |
| 15:41.15 | [square_bracket] | It doesn't have releases now =) |
| 15:41.16 | vignesh | its nice.. |
| 15:41.23 | vignesh | then ? |
| 15:41.25 | [square_bracket] | So I may say I use Arch Current |
| 15:41.40 | vignesh | ok. all patched and updated huh ? |
| 15:41.43 | [square_bracket] | Well, since 0.7.2 |
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| 15:41.53 | vignesh | ok |
| 15:42.03 | [square_bracket] | vignesh: keeping up-to-date + huge amount of packages built locally |
| 15:42.16 | vignesh | via source ? |
| 15:42.26 | vignesh | ok |
| 15:42.31 | [square_bracket] | via PKGBUILD |
| 15:42.32 | [square_bracket] | =) |
| 15:42.35 | vignesh | :) |
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| 15:42.47 | vignesh | what`s = ) I don`t get it in kopete |
| 15:43.06 | Fusselwurm|w0rk | smiling face |
| 15:43.13 | vignesh | same like : ) |
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| 15:44.25 | [square_bracket] | smiling face with huge eyes |
| 15:44.40 | vignesh | Oh... I don`t get it in kopete though |
| 15:44.46 | vignesh | ur using konversation ? |
| 15:44.47 | [square_bracket] | dunno |
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| 15:45.08 | [square_bracket] | yeah, konvi-svn (todays) and weechat-cvs (about a week old) |
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| 15:52.14 | vignesh | [square_bracket]: Tried Kde 4 ? |
| 15:52.19 | vignesh | the snapshots |
| 15:52.27 | [square_bracket] | yeah |
| 15:52.32 | vignesh | nice.. |
| 15:52.33 | [square_bracket] | for sure |
| 15:52.41 | vignesh | I tried one of binner`s cds |
| 15:52.52 | vignesh | based on opensuse 10.3 |
| 15:52.58 | vignesh | i guess |
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| 15:54.01 | [square_bracket] | kde4 is still a bit funny |
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| 15:54.18 | vignesh | in what way ? |
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| 15:54.56 | [square_bracket] | in an operation way =( |
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| 15:55.58 | vignesh | :) |
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| 15:57.02 | [square_bracket] | The world is waiting for kde4 holding the breathe |
| 15:57.12 | [square_bracket] | Even non-kde users |
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| 15:57.36 | [square_bracket] | that gui-from-core separation is realgood and awesome |
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| 15:58.00 | vignesh | yeah |
| 15:58.31 | vignesh | cya later |
| 15:58.33 | vignesh | bye |
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| 16:18.07 | nikolavp | anyone here know how konqueror manages to translate from one language to the other in the web pages |
| 16:18.22 | nikolavp | i would be glad to write a plugin for my language :) |
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| 16:21.54 | [square_bracket] | nikolavp: iirc it uses http://babelfish.altavista.com |
| 16:21.57 | troy | nikolavp: I believe it uses a website to do autotranslating |
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| 16:25.41 | sjck | Hey, i somehow destroyed my Konquerer.. cant open folders anymore :( |
| 16:26.22 | wolsni | sjck: you can't view any folder at all? |
| 16:26.30 | wolsni | what happens when you try to? |
| 16:26.49 | sjck | The list.. of favorite apps -> open with |
| 16:26.58 | sjck | i think i added something there for folders :( |
| 16:27.02 | sjck | can i disable that? |
| 16:27.03 | wolsni | ah |
| 16:27.04 | wolsni | yel |
| 16:27.07 | wolsni | *yep |
| 16:27.42 | wolsni | go to kcontrol->KDE Components->File Associations |
| 16:28.05 | wolsni | the mime type you want to tweak is inode/directory IIRC |
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| 16:29.26 | sjck | let me try |
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| 16:32.34 | sjck | hm.. where can i find konquerrer? |
| 16:32.52 | sjck | not unter multimedia.. not under internet.. |
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| 16:34.17 | silverk | system and file managment |
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| 16:35.32 | wolsni | sjck: press alt+f2 and type in ~ |
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| 16:37.08 | idde | whats the kde comand for sudo |
| 16:37.13 | idde | equivalent to gksu |
| 16:38.06 | wolsni | kdesu |
| 16:38.14 | idde | thanks |
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| 16:48.39 | sjck | works wolsni thanks. :) |
| 16:48.56 | sjck | is there a way to sort the tasks in taskspanel? |
| 16:50.08 | wolsni | right click on the panel and choose "Configure Panel" |
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| 16:50.29 | wolsni | i think there's a sorting option or two there |
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| 16:51.02 | sjck | ty |
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| 16:51.09 | sjck | sort by alphabet was activated |
| 16:51.10 | sjck | :) |
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| 17:14.32 | rrichie | hi all |
| 17:14.42 | rrichie | has anyone installed kde4 alpha on kubuntu ? |
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| 17:19.08 | kane_ | does anyone happen to know what qt libs are required to start developing QT4 apps on kubuntu fiesty? seems like ive installed every QT4 lib i can find but i still cant use things like QApplication |
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| 17:27.17 | Silveira_Neto | There's a Krita channel? I just want to know how to mirror a selection. I'm very newbie in Krita. |
| 17:27.24 | icwiener | Silveira_Neto: #koffice |
| 17:27.42 | Silveira_Neto | Thanks. |
| 17:27.42 | icwiener | kane_: What System? |
| 17:28.16 | kane_ | ah, im using kubuntu fiesty and would like to develop some QT4.2 apps. |
| 17:28.37 | icwiener | kane_: I think it is libqt4-dev you have o have installed. |
| 17:28.39 | MinceR | what license are the bundled wallpapers under? GPL? (or where can i check this?) |
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| 17:29.11 | kane_ | yeah thats seems correct, i think i might have that already, ill check. Maybe kdevelop is just being ugly to me... |
| 17:29.28 | HeavenWarrior | libtool: link: `kpposterpage.lo' is not a valid libtool object |
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| 17:30.54 | kane_ | hrm, yeah i do... #include <QApplication> is a correct include yes? |
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| 17:31.19 | icwiener | kane_: In KDevelop check the QMake Manager if the used modules are checked. |
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| 17:31.32 | icwiener | kane_: Yes, the include line is correct. |
| 17:31.40 | HeavenWarrior | can someone give me a direction of solving my problem |
| 17:31.47 | HeavenWarrior | This I get When Compiling |
| 17:31.48 | kane_ | yeah should be got it from the QT4 tutorial from troll tech. |
| 17:31.51 | HeavenWarrior | kdelibs3 |
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| 17:32.03 | Alumin | is there a KDE equivalent to "notification-daemon" / libnotify? Perhaps something I already have installed? |
| 17:32.40 | icwiener | Alumin: Maybe KNotify? |
| 17:32.45 | icwiener | But I don't know. :) |
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| 17:36.07 | raf256 | sometimes when I press ctrl+alt+F7 |
| 17:36.07 | raf256 | the alt or ctrl key remains stuck |
| 17:36.07 | raf256 | is this a known issue |
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| 17:36.07 | raf256 | stuck as in: in this VT7 every key X is seen as alt-X or ctrl-X no matter if ALT/CTRL is or isnt pressed |
| 17:36.07 | raf256 | (untill restart of X for example) |
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| 17:37.06 | HeavenWarrior | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:37.12 | HeavenWarrior | ops |
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| 17:51.21 | Lanken | I've got a problem with my kwin |
| 17:52.54 | Lanken | whenever I try to do "no border" on a window, it crashes |
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| 17:56.29 | Alethes | then stop doing "no border" on windows |
| 17:56.35 | Alethes | :D |
| 17:57.07 | MinceR | in particular, i'm looking for the license and copyright holder of share/wallpapers/default_blue.jpg |
| 17:58.34 | JamesB192 | rerun kwin with the --no-crash-hadler option and disassemble the resulting core. 8-) |
| 18:00.19 | Alethes | seriously though, Lanken, is it happening on every window or only certain types? |
| 18:00.29 | Lanken | Alethes: every one I've tried. |
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| 18:00.45 | Alethes | what version of kde and distro? |
| 18:00.46 | Lanken | Alethes: I even made an kmenu entry that sends "kwin --replace" so that I can restart it. |
| 18:00.57 | Lanken | gentoo, kde 3.5.5 |
| 18:01.19 | Alethes | can you open konsole and tail -f ~/.xsession-errors |
| 18:01.29 | Alethes | might get a useful message there |
| 18:01.36 | Alethes | not sure, just hoping |
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| 18:02.47 | JamesB192 | meson10: Don't IRC as root. |
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| 18:03.00 | Wesker | someone use k9copy ? |
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| 18:03.57 | Alethes | it's the official kde dog cloning app |
| 18:04.32 | wolsni | dog == 9GB DVD ? |
| 18:04.41 | Wesker | ham, I didn't know it |
| 18:05.02 | Wesker | what size i have to put for dvd5 ? |
| 18:05.08 | Wesker | 4,4 GB ? |
| 18:05.19 | Wesker | or 4,7 GB ? |
| 18:05.27 | JamesB192 | 4.7 |
| 18:05.39 | wolsni | i think k9copy squishes the DVD's to fit |
| 18:05.46 | Wesker | JamesB192: sure ? |
| 18:06.23 | JamesB192 | No, I just pulled that number from free()d storage. |
| 18:07.13 | Lanken | Alethes: http://pbox.co.nr/backtrace |
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| 18:08.10 | Alethes | Lanken: what windec are you using? |
| 18:08.14 | Alethes | and are you using compiz? |
| 18:08.17 | Lanken | deKorator |
| 18:08.26 | Lanken | I don't think I'm using compiz |
| 18:08.29 | Alethes | just for testing's sake, can you switch it to Plastik? |
| 18:08.36 | Lanken | no problem. |
| 18:08.51 | Alethes | and do the no border thing |
| 18:08.58 | Alethes | no border |
| 18:09.04 | Alethes | isn't that what some people want with mexico? |
| 18:09.04 | Alethes | heh |
| 18:09.07 | Alethes | :o |
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| 18:09.22 | icwiener | That's why it craches. ;) |
| 18:09.29 | Alethes | hehe |
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| 18:11.26 | Lanken | Alethes: no more crashing. |
| 18:11.39 | Alethes | deKorator may not really be the problem |
| 18:11.47 | Alethes | it might just be one of the "themes" for deKorator |
| 18:11.50 | Lanken | that would be nice. I like deKorator |
| 18:12.02 | Lanken | I have a custom theme :\ |
| 18:12.04 | Alethes | if you want a configurable -- yet stable windec, check out crystal |
| 18:12.16 | Alethes | lookie at me |
| 18:12.20 | Alethes | sounding all expert and stuff |
| 18:12.21 | Alethes | :D |
| 18:13.00 | Wesker | i hate that kde programs don't have got man page !! |
| 18:13.06 | Alethes | do any of them? |
| 18:13.15 | Alethes | or do you mean the help content? |
| 18:13.53 | [square_bracket] | they have lotsa help |
| 18:14.04 | [square_bracket] | managed by kde help syste, |
| 18:14.13 | [square_bracket] | s/,/m/ |
| 18:14.28 | JamesB192 | Why would a KDE app have a manpage?? I think they'd just use KDEs' help facility. |
| 18:14.30 | Wesker | [square_bracket]: who? yes !! lot f help!! only click here click there.. |
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| 18:15.33 | Lanken | (screenshot http://pbox.co.nr/samp.png |
| 18:15.43 | Lanken | Alethes: my crazy decos ^^ |
| 18:17.05 | Alethes | ok, not really, but that's a look that's definitely acheivable by another windec |
| 18:17.05 | JamesB192 | I can't read that... |
| 18:17.21 | Lanken | Alethes: :) it's kind of un-subtle. |
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| 18:17.34 | Lanken | Alethes: unfocused windows don't get BeOS colors. |
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| 18:17.46 | Alethes | for that matter, the icewm option can do the images like deKorator, and it's it's a lot more stable |
| 18:17.55 | Lanken | yeah, icewm seems to be ok. |
| 18:18.02 | Alethes | in other words deKorator is pretty unnecessary and crappy |
| 18:18.05 | Lanken | it handles masking wrong in kde though, from what I've seen |
| 18:18.18 | Lanken | and the rounded corners are important to me. |
| 18:18.24 | Alethes | ok, but that look is almost certainly acheivable elsewhere |
| 18:18.25 | sjck | anyone know a tool for webcams? |
| 18:18.26 | sjck | :) |
| 18:18.35 | Lanken | I'm merging crystal now. |
| 18:19.29 | Lanken | (speaking of styles and such, on the qt end of things, I hope Domino matures soon) |
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| 18:20.39 | Lanken | I really like my oversized titlebar font, too. |
| 18:21.03 | Lanken | I bet that's achievable in any pixmap-based windeco though. |
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| 18:25.09 | Lanken | so....can I get rounded corners in crystal? |
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| 18:26.16 | Lanken | ah, there they are. |
| 18:26.47 | [square_bracket] | ah |
| 18:26.50 | [square_bracket] | on crystal |
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| 18:27.17 | [square_bracket] | anyone expericed difficulties with 1.0.3? |
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| 18:27.26 | [square_bracket] | seems not to work for me |
| 18:27.35 | [square_bracket] | it compiles, but doesn't run |
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| 18:32.43 | Lanken | Alethes: I've cloned my old theme as well as I can. |
| 18:33.07 | Lanken | Alethes: I can't get the motif effect that I liked so much, but flat has a certain appeal too |
| 18:33.08 | Alethes | I bet it looks nicer in crystal :P |
| 18:33.14 | Lanken | nicer? |
| 18:33.15 | Lanken | no. |
| 18:33.17 | Alethes | heh |
| 18:33.19 | Lanken | nicer is irrelevant |
| 18:33.22 | Alethes | haha ok |
| 18:33.27 | Lanken | "the way I want it to look" is what matters |
| 18:33.33 | Alethes | yeah heh |
| 18:33.36 | Lanken | and it looked right in dekorator :\ |
| 18:34.04 | Lanken | at least the hotspots for resizing and moving are right |
| 18:34.17 | Lanken | they're not configurable in dekorator, but they're well-chosen |
| 18:34.23 | Lanken | in icewm they're a bit retarded. |
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| 18:38.25 | cygnus128 | does anybody know where KDevelop normally stores its syntax highlighting definitions? |
| 18:38.41 | Alethes | hang on cygnus128 |
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| 18:39.12 | Alethes | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:39.45 | cygnus128 | thanks :) |
| 18:40.26 | Alethes | might change slightly with your distro |
| 18:40.33 | Alethes | I just locate tcl.xml for example |
| 18:40.35 | Alethes | something unusual |
| 18:42.51 | cygnus128 | well, that is the right path in Ubuntu 7.04 anyway ;) |
| 18:42.55 | cygnus128 | thanks again |
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| 18:51.16 | lsproc | does anyone know a good tomboy like app for kde? |
| 18:51.21 | Alethes | knotes, bucket |
| 18:51.31 | lsproc | ok, cheers |
| 18:51.32 | wolsni | Alethes: bucket? |
| 18:51.47 | Alethes | knotes, I don't know what I'm thinking |
| 18:51.48 | Alethes | :D |
| 18:51.52 | Alethes | I'm trying to work too |
| 18:51.56 | lsproc | :P |
| 18:52.06 | lsproc | could find neither in the frugalware repo |
| 18:52.24 | wolsni | you probably meant basket |
| 18:52.29 | lsproc | :P |
| 18:52.46 | Alethes | yeah hahaha |
| 18:52.47 | Alethes | bucket |
| 18:52.52 | Alethes | that's pretty good :D |
| 18:52.53 | wolsni | lsproc: knotes is part of one of the main kde packages |
| 18:52.54 | Alethes | hmmm |
| 18:53.09 | lsproc | ah |
| 18:53.15 | Alethes | now I gotta find a good app that can be called BucKet |
| 18:53.19 | wolsni | $ rpm -qf $(which knotes) |
| 18:53.19 | wolsni | kdepim-3.5.6-0.2.fc6 |
| 18:53.20 | Alethes | :D |
| 18:53.21 | lsproc | XD |
| 18:53.37 | bram85 | basket rocks |
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| 18:54.20 | wolsni | basket is a bit more complex than tomboy, knotes is a little different |
| 18:54.47 | lsproc | :P |
| 18:54.51 | lsproc | basket rocks though |
| 18:55.28 | wolsni | from your question, I figured you weren't familiar with it |
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| 18:56.39 | Alethes | I just use kwrite for my notes |
| 18:56.43 | Alethes | I'm old school and stuff |
| 18:56.54 | Alethes | or echo "thing" >> bleh |
| 18:56.58 | Alethes | yeah, I'm not kidding |
| 18:56.59 | Alethes | hah |
| 18:57.01 | lsproc | :P |
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| 18:57.20 | wolsni | it's nice to be able to have clickable URLs in a basKet notepad though |
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| 19:19.06 | main2 | i have a simple question, can i automount NFS shares easily with KDE? |
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| 19:23.54 | stoned | main2: you can put them in /etc/fstab |
| 19:23.54 | main2 | stoned, im not stoned or something.. i know that |
| 19:23.54 | main2 | =P |
| 19:23.55 | main2 | for real stoned, |
| 19:23.55 | stoned | main2: server:/share/here /mount/point/here nfs auto 0 0 |
| 19:23.55 | stoned | maybe |
| 19:23.55 | main2 | i would like to see them being mounted after i reset my connection.......... |
| 19:23.55 | main2 | ie |
| 19:23.55 | stoned | not without a script you can't |
| 19:23.56 | main2 | or when i move with my laptop to a LAN................ |
| 19:23.56 | stoned | pmount won't do it, and you need su perms to mount |
| 19:23.56 | stoned | you can write a simple shell script to do it for you |
| 19:24.00 | main2 | stoned, but if i put it in fstab the way tyou described it |
| 19:24.08 | main2 | then my users have write access as well? |
| 19:24.21 | stoned | no |
| 19:24.32 | main2 | because thats the first problem im facing atm |
| 19:24.32 | stoned | read/write access is defined in /etc/exports |
| 19:24.43 | main2 | on my server you mean |
| 19:24.52 | stoned | yes nfs server with the shares |
| 19:25.00 | stoned | rw is specified in /etc/exports |
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| 19:25.23 | stoned | # /srv/nfs4 gss/krb5i(rw,sync,fsid=0,crossmnt) |
| 19:25.24 | stoned | for exmaple |
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| 19:25.36 | main2 | i do have rw in my exports |
| 19:25.44 | main2 | but i cant write files to it with a normal user account |
| 19:25.47 | main2 | i can with root |
| 19:25.54 | main2 | so its not a server config problem i think |
| 19:27.37 | stoned | no |
| 19:27.47 | stoned | if you specified rw in your exports file |
| 19:27.50 | stoned | then you DO have rw perms |
| 19:27.58 | stoned | however, maybe your mount point is root only |
| 19:28.11 | stoned | mae sure your mount point is rw by users and you'll be fine |
| 19:29.00 | main2 | stoned, i dont know how to make the mountpoint rw for users |
| 19:29.05 | main2 | you do? |
| 19:29.08 | stoned | main2: chmod |
| 19:29.29 | stoned | chgrp |
| 19:29.31 | stoned | etc. etc. |
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| 19:30.03 | main2 | chmod on mounts? :| |
| 19:30.23 | stoned | i am exporting laptop:/home/stoned/ and mounting it on my desktop in /home/stoned/Laptop |
| 19:30.35 | stoned | if ~/Laptop is only rw by me, the other users will not be able to write to it |
| 19:30.39 | stoned | maybe not even read |
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| 19:30.53 | stoned | so umount nfs first, then modify the perms on your mount point, then remount your nfs hare |
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| 19:30.56 | stoned | share* |
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| 19:51.30 | untitled | good evening |
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| 19:52.42 | untitled | has anyone here seen such a thing about ktorrent, that it is crashing and in the log file i see "authentication failure" |
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| 20:00.29 | frando | Hey. Is there any way I can make native Qt apps (e.g. qtparted, adept) look like the rest of KDE? |
| 20:00.44 | frando | iow, can I somehow use a KDE widget theme for Qt? |
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| 20:05.26 | ccc | frando: not sure what you mean. they are displayed with another style because you run them as root, most likely |
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| 20:05.45 | BlackBsd | hi, is there a way in KDE to control how sensitive my mouse, not really acceleration, but if i just touch my mouse it moves alot... |
| 20:05.53 | frando | ccc: Oh, that might be. |
| 20:06.02 | Lanken | promoting kwrite as the default text editor and making kate a specialty item was a really good move. |
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| 20:06.49 | frando | ccc: So - could I just symlink /home/user1/.kde to /home/root/.kde or would that lead to problems? |
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| 20:12.30 | nikolavp | i tryed the options in configure -> Web behavior and advanced options but that didnt solve |
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| 20:15.39 | Lanken | what's the KDE tool for batch renaming? |
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| 20:18.16 | UKESN|Javax | warsow 0.3 released !!! hurrah! |
| 20:18.27 | benJIman | Lanken: it's cunningly called krename |
| 20:19.01 | ccc | frando: nah. not sure if there's a better way, but i guess you for instance can use: kdesu kcmshell style and apply another style |
| 20:19.29 | Lanken | benJIman: thanks. It's fun to be snarky, isn't it! |
| 20:20.07 | benJIman | Indeed. |
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| 20:32.04 | BlackBsd | what would be the best way to migrate my .kde directory to a new computer, which may or may not have all the software that the old on had.. |
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| 20:32.28 | BlackBsd | i tried tar before, but it keeps the menu items the same which i dont have all the programs on the new box |
| 20:32.48 | nikolavp | BlackBsd, u can check the administrator guide |
| 20:32.49 | nikolavp | in kde.org |
| 20:32.55 | nikolavp | to check where it stores the conf files |
| 20:33.15 | nikolavp | and then just delete the menu files so the new one can make it's own |
| 20:33.42 | BlackBsd | i know they are all in the .kde/share/config |
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| 20:33.53 | BlackBsd | i dont know if i need any of the other directories |
| 20:34.01 | BlackBsd | maybe the apps directory |
| 20:34.05 | nikolavp | BlackBsd, me either just check the guide :D |
| 20:34.10 | nikolavp | i dont think so |
| 20:34.17 | nikolavp | i just think one of the *.rc files stores the etries |
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| 20:58.58 | premier_ | hello, kde seems to have broken png support for me... is there a package I need to install? |
| 21:00.00 | kdepepo | libpng |
| 21:00.22 | Lanken | something should be done about amarok's tendency to hang when you do "next track" in random playback mode. |
| 21:00.43 | premier_ | Lanken: I never had that problem |
| 21:01.30 | premier_ | ubuntu has libpng3 and libpng12-0 ... which one is real? |
| 21:01.45 | nikolavp | Lanken, why dont u post a bug :d |
| 21:02.00 | Lanken | premier_: maybe it's not a hang, but it makes my processor spike. |
| 21:02.23 | Lanken | premier_: how long a playlist have you used? |
| 21:02.29 | premier_ | Lanken: well, its probably trying to pick the next song... how big is your playlist |
| 21:02.45 | premier_ | I find amarok fails with real large playlists |
| 21:02.48 | kdepepo | libpng12 sounds good |
| 21:02.52 | premier_ | I keep it under 100 I'd say |
| 21:03.12 | nikolavp | Lanken, use the collection browser instead |
| 21:03.31 | premier_ | kdepepo: it looks like I have both installed |
| 21:03.34 | Lanken | under 100??? |
| 21:03.35 | nikolavp | i have also seen as premier_ people complaining about amarok with *huge* playlists |
| 21:03.36 | Lanken | that's tiny. |
| 21:03.40 | Lanken | why not just use cds |
| 21:03.44 | kdepepo | it is version 1.2, actually |
| 21:03.55 | Lanken | 3000 files isn't that ridiculous. |
| 21:04.05 | nikolavp | Lanken, u should *not* have problems with so low ammount of songs |
| 21:04.08 | nikolavp | such* |
| 21:04.15 | Lanken | 3000 should work fine, you mean? |
| 21:04.31 | kdepepo | premier, what png problem do you have |
| 21:05.00 | premier_ | kdepepo: Its not showing pngs in konqueror, and nothing seems to display them correctly, such as gwenview... krita doesn't know how to use them, but... |
| 21:05.22 | premier_ | konqueror will show them if they are part of a webpage. Also, firefox will show them without any trouble |
| 21:06.02 | kdepepo | premier, do qt based programs show png? |
| 21:06.44 | premier_ | kdepepo: generally no |
| 21:07.42 | premier_ | also, when I look in the "open file window" and the filter is set to pngs, nothing will be shown... nothing... it works if I drag the file into the dialog, but otherwise no |
| 21:07.45 | kdepepo | so your qt setup is broken... perhaps you deleted the QImage plugins |
| 21:08.46 | nikolavp | premier_, your distro ? |
| 21:08.46 | kdepepo | ? this sounds odd... |
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| 21:10.39 | premier_ | nikolavp: kubuntu 7.04 |
| 21:10.47 | Lanken | nikolavp: it isn't that 3000 songs makes the player unusable, it's that it takes a significant amount of processing time to choose a random song. |
| 21:10.49 | premier_ | I'm thinking I might move to debian |
| 21:10.58 | nikolavp | premier_, well i assume u should not delete qt and reinstall it |
| 21:10.59 | nikolavp | :) |
| 21:11.11 | Lanken | nikolavp: ok, scratch that. it's just as bad if the song is the next one on the playlist. |
| 21:11.17 | premier_ | nikolavp: if I did that, it was by accident |
| 21:11.29 | nikolavp | maybe an apt-get remove --purge qt && apt-get install qt |
| 21:11.33 | MinceR | when will kpresenter load ppt files correctly? |
| 21:11.35 | nikolavp | not sure if it will work though ;) |
| 21:11.46 | Lanken | nikolavp: maybe it isn't reading the file until the end of the song |
| 21:11.47 | premier_ | nikolavp: won't that uninstall kde? |
| 21:11.48 | nikolavp | MinceR, i dont think they will add support for the MS formats |
| 21:11.54 | nikolavp | premier_, not sure |
| 21:12.06 | nikolavp | i have only used Debian and Debian based for servers :) |
| 21:12.20 | nikolavp | that's why i i am not sure :D |
| 21:12.45 | premier_ | MinceR: you might be able to open the file with OpenOffice... then you can convert the file to Open Document Format and use whatever program you want |
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| 21:12.49 | nikolavp | Lanken, so take that random song chooser off :D |
| 21:13.05 | nikolavp | premier_, that wont work either :D |
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| 21:13.45 | Lanken | nikolavp: no, that's what I'm saying. it gobbles up clock time regardless of thewher it's choosingrandom songs. |
| 21:13.59 | nikolavp | Lanken, i dont use that plugin :) |
| 21:14.05 | Lanken | what plugin??? |
| 21:14.09 | nikolavp | i like to manage my songs in collections |
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| 21:14.17 | Lanken | I'm using a vanilla amarok |
| 21:14.18 | nikolavp | Lanken, not sure if random song is a plugin |
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| 21:14.24 | nikolavp | or it the core |
| 21:14.27 | Lanken | ok.... |
| 21:14.29 | nikolavp | is* |
| 21:14.36 | Lanken | it gobbles up clock time regardless of thewher it's choosingrandom songs. |
| 21:15.01 | Lanken | does that make sense to you? |
| 21:15.02 | nikolavp | it makes sence to me |
| 21:15.03 | nikolavp | amarok eats resources |
| 21:15.06 | Lanken | so randomness isn't involved. |
| 21:15.07 | nikolavp | he like them :)) |
| 21:15.20 | nikolavp | it can be everything |
| 21:15.29 | nikolavp | amarok is one of the app's that freezes here from time to time |
| 21:15.29 | Lanken | what? |
| 21:15.35 | nikolavp | the only one in KDE :) |
| 21:15.45 | nikolavp | Lanken, dont use Random songs |
| 21:15.51 | nikolavp | ask in #amarok |
| 21:15.55 | Lanken | ok are you being intentionally dense? |
| 21:15.57 | nikolavp | maybe the guys there know something |
| 21:16.06 | Lanken | it's performing the same regardless of whether I have random songs |
| 21:16.16 | Lanken | I don't know how to put it any more clearly. |
| 21:16.49 | nikolavp | so what it does ? |
| 21:17.15 | premier_ | nikolavp: are you sure I should purge and reinstall qt? I mean, apt-get likes to unistall a lot of other stuff when I unistall stuff like that |
| 21:17.18 | Lanken | well, for one thing, you can stop telling me not to use random songs. |
| 21:17.40 | nikolavp | premier_, check what it will uninstall |
| 21:17.47 | nikolavp | and decide your self :) |
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| 21:18.13 | nikolavp | Lanken, i am a sleep sorry |
| 21:18.29 | kdepepo | premier_, wait |
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| 21:18.38 | MinceR | premier_: i know, but i hate openoffice and would rather not even start it |
| 21:18.48 | nikolavp | MinceR, it wont work either |
| 21:18.52 | MinceR | it's a horrible resource hog with enourmous memory leaks |
| 21:18.55 | kdepepo | premier_, first try to create a new user account |
| 21:18.57 | MinceR | s/ou/o/ |
| 21:19.09 | nikolavp | MinceR, they cant sync all the effekts |
| 21:19.13 | kdepepo | premier_, and see if png works there |
| 21:19.24 | nikolavp | so u cant get 100% support of documents save in openoffice in MS office |
| 21:19.29 | MinceR | currently i'm running it in an ulimit-ed environment, reniced to 18 and it crashes often (probably it tries to get all my memory over and over) |
| 21:19.43 | kdepepo | premier_, if it does, its a .config/ or .kde/ problem |
| 21:19.50 | premier_ | MinceR: yeah, I prefer kde apps, even if they're inferior |
| 21:19.52 | MinceR | i only need text correct encoding/charset, correct colors and graphics |
| 21:20.03 | kdepepo | premier_, if it does not, it is a packaging problem. |
| 21:20.05 | MinceR | for my own presentations i'd prefer latex or something like that |
| 21:20.06 | nikolavp | MinceR, openoffice is your only option sorry :) |
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| 21:21.53 | premier_ | should I be able to run kde and gnome on the same login? |
| 21:23.03 | premier_ | MinceR: you only have to start it long enough to convert files to open document format |
| 21:23.13 | kdepepo | premier_, not at the same time. |
| 21:23.33 | premier_ | kdepepo: well, yeah, but can I have them installed simultaniously? |
| 21:23.44 | kdepepo | premier_, yes |
| 21:24.06 | kdepepo | premier_, I deleted gnome though, after trying :) |
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| 21:24.19 | premier_ | kdepepo: I tried to sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop (gnome) and it I got a taste of that wonderful gnome stability |
| 21:24.25 | premier_ | but I'd like to give a fair shot |
| 21:24.35 | premier_ | i think I just got a buggy install |
| 21:24.58 | kdepepo | premier_, maybe even a disk problem. |
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| 21:26.50 | premier_ | kdepepo: a freind of mine is new to linux, and he's trying to use gnome |
| 21:27.00 | premier_ | He says " I like the simplicity" |
| 21:27.25 | premier_ | But when I try to help him, I can't figure out where all the features are, or if they exsist |
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| 21:27.26 | kdepepo | premier_, then he could also use windows :) |
| 21:27.35 | premier_ | I would have said mac |
| 21:27.52 | mefisto | premier_, have you noticed channels name ? |
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| 21:28.09 | mefisto | this aint #gnome |
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| 21:28.29 | premier_ | I've come to the philosphical conclusion that simplicity is not a value |
| 21:28.29 | nikolavp | premier_, u can run both sessions ;) |
| 21:28.40 | premier_ | mefisto: what's your point? |
| 21:28.44 | nikolavp | [02:17] <premier_> should I be able to run kde and gnome on the same login? |
| 21:28.51 | premier_ | nikolavp: cool |
| 21:29.00 | nikolavp | kde supports that |
| 21:29.06 | nikolavp | but i am not sure about gnome ;D |
| 21:29.21 | nikolavp | in gnome session open a terminal and type startkde |
| 21:29.24 | vandenoever | hi |
| 21:29.24 | nikolavp | :)) |
| 21:29.34 | nikolavp | vandenoever, hi |
| 21:29.36 | premier_ | nikolavp: what I meant was , can I have both installed |
| 21:29.44 | nikolavp | premier_, oh that for sure :D |
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| 21:30.00 | nikolavp | some people do :) |
| 21:30.15 | nikolavp | though i dont gtk applications |
| 21:30.21 | vandenoever | nikolavp: i was testing dcop + konversation |
| 21:30.24 | premier_ | I'd do it... I'm not so concerned about hard drive space |
| 21:30.51 | nikolavp | JamesB192, it is an option :) |
| 21:31.16 | nikolavp | vandenoever, and ?:) |
| 21:31.28 | premier_ | nikolavp: I wish krita had as many features as gimp, because its better... none of the MDI stuff |
| 21:32.32 | nikolavp | premier_, ah i use gimp :) |
| 21:32.41 | nikolavp | it is an exception ;P |
| 21:32.55 | nikolavp | though i have never used krita |
| 21:33.01 | nikolavp | maybe it will solve my needs |
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| 21:33.27 | nikolavp | ah it is part of the koffice :D |
| 21:33.35 | premier_ | nikolavp: gimp is nice, but I find it annoying to have to keep moving toolbars around... I mean, I'm trying to draw, not manage an interface |
| 21:33.37 | kdepepo | i tried 1.6.2 krita, it was somewhat unstable |
| 21:33.42 | vandenoever | nikolavp: it's pretty funny |
| 21:33.55 | premier_ | the new krita is stable, but a bit useless |
| 21:34.12 | vandenoever | i'am blinking my sig now |
| 21:34.18 | nikolavp | i am not sure if u will be able to watch it but i will just give u a link |
| 21:34.19 | nikolavp | :) |
| 21:34.49 | nikolavp | i will show u someone who dont need complex programs to make art :) |
| 21:35.04 | nikolavp | http://vid.data.bg/q4bv7lsu#vid |
| 21:35.10 | nikolavp | i hope u can view that :( |
| 21:35.30 | premier_ | nikolavp: just as long as its not a png |
| 21:35.38 | nikolavp | premier_, watch it :) |
| 21:35.57 | nikolavp | can u open it ?:) |
| 21:36.14 | premier_ | nikolavp: its not liking me... I'm using konqueror, let me try good old firefox |
| 21:36.45 | nikolavp | premier_, it should be just a simple flash that show how the guy draw subary(the car) with MS paint :D |
| 21:37.24 | premier_ | this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0smntbxyJ8 |
| 21:37.27 | nikolavp | here it is in youtube if u prefer it |
| 21:37.29 | nikolavp | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vUWqRhReaZk |
| 21:37.36 | nikolavp | LOL :) |
| 21:37.59 | nikolavp | btw why i dont hear any noise from the flashmedia i konqueror :) |
| 21:38.18 | nikolavp | and why when i click on a link from external application konqueror dont open a new tab but instead a new session |
| 21:38.48 | nikolavp | i have seted the box for open new links from external applications as new tabs in configure -> Web behaviour -> Advanced options |
| 21:39.52 | premier_ | question: Notepad:Kwrite:MSWord:KOffice::MSPaint:???:Photoshop:Krita |
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| 21:42.13 | premier_ | Is there a program with similar functionality as a utilitarian image editor? |
| 21:42.30 | nikolavp | like photoshop ? |
| 21:42.39 | DaRtH_VaDeR | gimp ? |
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| 21:43.23 | Thundercloud_ | premier_: An analogue to MS Paint? |
| 21:43.39 | nikolavp | LOL :) |
| 21:43.50 | nikolavp | i think there was something like kpaint :) |
| 21:43.54 | mefisto | ms paint has no annalogs |
| 21:44.01 | mefisto | as does msdos prompt |
| 21:44.05 | mefisto | both are useless |
| 21:44.06 | premier_ | that exists? |
| 21:44.16 | nikolavp | premier_, yeah :) |
| 21:44.23 | premier_ | mefisto: well, I said, notepad:kwrite |
| 21:44.32 | nikolavp | LOL |
| 21:44.34 | nikolavp | and u are wrong :D |
| 21:44.37 | premier_ | we all know what kwrite has the notepad doesn't |
| 21:44.43 | premier_ | but there is an anology |
| 21:44.56 | nikolavp | well who use kwrite nowadays :d |
| 21:44.58 | mefisto | notepads analog is ... maybe kedit |
| 21:45.03 | nikolavp | most of the people just open kate o :X |
| 21:45.04 | mefisto | even it can save utf8 |
| 21:45.09 | premier_ | I use kwrite... I don't like kate |
| 21:45.37 | nikolavp | lol |
| 21:45.37 | premier_ | it takes longer to load, and it won't let me open multiple windows |
| 21:45.37 | nikolavp | kate is all everyone need :D |
| 21:45.41 | Thundercloud_ | I don't even use kwrite |
| 21:45.42 | Thundercloud_ | vim ftw |
| 21:45.49 | premier_ | all I need to do is edit some configuration files for some programs I write |
| 21:45.59 | nikolavp | Thundercloud_, nah ;) |
| 21:46.03 | MinceR | the analog of ms paint is kolourpaint |
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| 21:46.12 | en1gma | sup all |
| 21:46.17 | illogic-al | not mmmmuchhh |
| 21:46.27 | premier_ | I don't need to learn vim, and I don't need kate... I wouldn't mind notepad, but kwrite seems to be just what I want |
| 21:46.45 | premier_ | "just right" |
| 21:46.48 | en1gma | K-menu>Settings>Internet and Network>Network Settings tool does not WRITE to the /etc/network/interfaces.conf file |
| 21:46.51 | MinceR | en1gma: endless suffering |
| 21:46.52 | Thundercloud_ | nikolavp: Oh I love it |
| 21:46.52 | SimAtWrk | everyone should know vim |
| 21:46.54 | en1gma | can someone help me |
| 21:47.03 | Thundercloud_ | For some unknown reason the computers in the labs for my CSC course all use windows. |
| 21:47.03 | nikolavp | Thundercloud_, maybe for really simple editing :D |
| 21:47.06 | Thundercloud_ | But they have a copy of vim |
| 21:47.10 | Thundercloud_ | nikolavp: Haha you're joking right? |
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| 21:47.13 | Thundercloud_ | Vim's a bit tough to get to grips with |
| 21:47.23 | nikolavp | i prefer emacs for that :) |
| 21:47.24 | Thundercloud_ | But honestly once you've done a bit of learning it's the fastest code editor i've ever used. |
| 21:47.37 | nikolavp | it cant be faster than emacs :) |
| 21:47.39 | SimAtWrk | i preffer kate/kdevelop for code editting. |
| 21:47.43 | premier_ | I have a freind was uses a mac, but for his CS class he has to use a mac version of vim |
| 21:47.44 | nikolavp | thought it have some nice features |
| 21:47.46 | en1gma | im getting a dhcp failed to start when i boot (but i am connected to internet somehow) |
| 21:47.47 | SimAtWrk | but vim is great for a quicky |
| 21:47.48 | Thundercloud_ | nikolavp: I'm not going to start any kind of argument. |
| 21:47.54 | Thundercloud_ | You prefer emacs, I prefer vim |
| 21:47.57 | Thundercloud_ | I'm going to leave it at that |
| 21:48.03 | Thundercloud_ | Flame wars have started over that :P |
| 21:48.04 | nikolavp | Thundercloud_, me too :) |
| 21:48.07 | nikolavp | i use them both |
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| 21:48.17 | en1gma | can someone help me |
| 21:48.19 | nikolavp | i am not like some of the people that make wars about editors :D |
| 21:48.21 | premier_ | After unpacking 23.5MB of additional disk space will be used. <- for vim? WTF? |
| 21:48.22 | SimAtWrk | en1gma: what is the problem ? |
| 21:49.04 | en1gma | K-menu>Settings>Internet and Network>Network Settings tool does not WRITE to the /etc/network/interfaces.conf file |
| 21:49.04 | en1gma | how do i configure network |
| 21:49.05 | nikolavp | SimAtWrk, i like to start from scratch |
| 21:49.05 | SimAtWrk | what distro? |
| 21:49.05 | Thundercloud_ | nikolavp: You're not eh? |
| 21:49.05 | en1gma | debian sid |
| 21:49.05 | Thundercloud_ | WELL |
| 21:49.05 | nikolavp | nah :) |
| 21:49.06 | premier_ | why does it take 23MB to install vim? |
| 21:49.06 | nikolavp | cause i use them both |
| 21:49.08 | nikolavp | emacs for bigger works |
| 21:49.12 | Thundercloud_ | premier_: It's a POWERFUL editor. |
| 21:49.12 | nikolavp | and vim just for basics |
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| 21:49.20 | nikolavp | when i need to open and delete some nice stuffs |
| 21:49.24 | PhilRod | en1gma: the best place to ask would be #yourdistro |
| 21:49.24 | Thundercloud_ | Has both console and X versions |
| 21:49.27 | kdepepo | I use pico. |
| 21:49.28 | SimAtWrk | premier_: there's quitea bit to it... but 23mb does seem like a heck of a lot. |
| 21:49.28 | Thundercloud_ | Syntax highlighting |
| 21:49.31 | Thundercloud_ | All the usual shtuff |
| 21:49.36 | en1gma | they say this is a KDE problem not debian |
| 21:49.38 | nikolavp | premier_, pico is not even close to emacs and vim |
| 21:49.38 | nikolavp | :D |
| 21:50.12 | Thundercloud_ | srsly though, the source for vim is 6.3MB |
| 21:50.15 | nikolavp | Thundercloud_, one of the nice features i like in vim |
| 21:50.19 | Thundercloud_ | So whatever debian is installing it's certainly installing a lot. |
| 21:50.21 | nikolavp | it can always highlight :) |
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| 21:50.25 | en1gma | is there any info you need that i can paste at pastebin |
| 21:50.26 | Thundercloud_ | nikolavp: Damn straighgt |
| 21:50.26 | nikolavp | no matter what u open ;D |
| 21:50.29 | Thundercloud_ | s/ damn straight |
| 21:50.38 | SimAtWrk | en1gma: oh, you're using debian? I haven't used debian for a long long time now.... |
| 21:50.42 | SimAtWrk | thinking hard... |
| 21:50.46 | Thundercloud_ | It's like it's got a highlighter for nearly every code language ever. |
| 21:50.49 | en1gma | well im in KDE |
| 21:50.51 | nikolavp | emacs manage that better but u have to install the mode for the specific language and stuffs :D |
| 21:51.07 | nikolavp | and for example if i open xorg.conf i feel dirty :d |
| 21:51.12 | Thundercloud_ | :D |
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| 21:51.29 | SimAtWrk | en1gma: best thing to do. vim /etc/network/interfaces |
| 21:51.33 | SimAtWrk | (or whatever editor you like) |
| 21:52.08 | nikolavp | en1gma, check nano |
| 21:52.18 | en1gma | well wont the "K-menu>Settings>Internet and Network>Network Settings" tool overwrite what i put in the /etc/network/interfaces.conf file |
| 21:52.25 | nikolavp | as i can see if u are looking for network options in Kmenu ;) |
| 21:52.28 | en1gma | i know how to edit the .conf file |
| 21:52.29 | nikolavp | u better use nano :x |
| 21:52.32 | en1gma | thats not the problem |
| 21:52.40 | SimAtWrk | en1gma: is it .conf now? |
| 21:52.44 | SimAtWrk | i thought it was just interfaces |
| 21:52.51 | en1gma | the problem is K-menu>Settings>Internet and Network>Network Settings |
| 21:52.55 | SimAtWrk | and i dunno, i've never used a gui to configure networking in linux. |
| 21:53.00 | nikolavp | en1gma, every distribution stores those configs in diff places |
| 21:53.05 | nikolavp | the KDE team cant do that for u :D |
| 21:53.26 | nikolavp | SimAtWrk, i think i can remember that i did that once in gnome :) |
| 21:53.26 | en1gma | i think its really just "/etc/network/inerfaces" but it is a conf file in my book |
| 21:53.32 | nikolavp | though it was 2 years ago :O |
| 21:53.35 | SimAtWrk | i don't even have an inetnet and network submenu |
| 21:54.11 | nikolavp | SimAtWrk, u should |
| 21:54.14 | SimAtWrk | nikolavp: i feel your pain though. I too think there should be a standard way to configure thist stuff from gui... even if you never want to. |
| 21:54.17 | nikolavp | it comes with konqeror :) |
| 21:54.22 | SimAtWrk | i use gentoo |
| 21:54.30 | nikolavp | same :D |
| 21:54.32 | nikolavp | Sysinfo for 'Nikolavp': Linux 2.6.20-gentoo-r8 running KDE 3.5.5, CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.40GHz at 2392 MHz (4786 bogomips), HD: 46/75GB, RAM: 604/757MB, 81 proc's, 2.37h up |
| 21:54.34 | en1gma | that isnt the problem |
| 21:54.35 | SimAtWrk | nothing comes without asking for it. |
| 21:54.46 | en1gma | kde network tool is locking the dang file |
| 21:54.50 | en1gma | or ignoring |
| 21:54.51 | en1gma | it |
| 21:55.11 | en1gma | should i uninstall it maybe? |
| 21:55.16 | nikolavp | maybe the debian guys managed to touch the sources and make a plugin for that :) |
| 21:55.36 | SimAtWrk | en1gma: if you want something that makes it easy to configure your computer you might want to check out webmin. |
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| 21:55.55 | en1gma | i know how to edit and configure the interfaces file |
| 21:55.56 | en1gma | omg |
| 21:55.59 | en1gma | is anyone listening |
| 21:56.06 | en1gma | its locked or being ignored |
| 21:56.12 | SimAtWrk | by? |
| 21:56.15 | en1gma | i dont know |
| 21:56.20 | SimAtWrk | fuser |
| 21:56.25 | SimAtWrk | fuser /etc/network/interfaces |
| 21:56.26 | en1gma | either dhcp or kde network tool |
| 21:56.43 | SimAtWrk | what does fuser say |
| 21:56.55 | SimAtWrk | and why do you think it's being locked/ignored ? |
| 21:57.00 | en1gma | i did the command as root and it dont say anything |
| 21:57.07 | SimAtWrk | then it's certainly not locked |
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| 21:57.39 | en1gma | well i commented out almost all the dhcp lines and dhcp is still trying to start and hanging with dhcp could not start (upon boot in console) |
| 21:58.16 | en1gma | or something is mapping the nics wrong |
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| 21:59.40 | en1gma | eth2 = nic to cable-modem....eth1=nic to another networked computer....eth0=firewire |
| 21:59.42 | en1gma | http://pastebin.ca/490199 |
| 22:00.28 | en1gma | ifconfig = eth2 with an assigned ip from cable modem....eth1 dont ever show an ip even with local ip address |
| 22:00.42 | en1gma | eth0 = firewire so i dont even know why its listed |
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| 22:00.59 | SimAtWrk | i don't see any comments before those dhcp lines... |
| 22:01.00 | SimAtWrk | uhh |
| 22:01.05 | SimAtWrk | i dunno what you're trying to do |
| 22:01.52 | SimAtWrk | http://pastebin.ca/490204 |
| 22:01.57 | SimAtWrk | look at that sample config file instead |
| 22:02.23 | en1gma | i didnt do that. that file is original |
| 22:02.34 | SimAtWrk | on debian? |
| 22:02.44 | SimAtWrk | something somewhere made a mess of your config file. |
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| 22:03.12 | en1gma | SimAtWrk do you have 2 nics in your box? |
| 22:03.14 | SimAtWrk | the one i pasted is what debian looks like usually |
| 22:03.16 | SimAtWrk | in that box yes |
| 22:03.19 | en1gma | 1 to net and 1 to local network |
| 22:03.23 | SimAtWrk | yes |
| 22:03.27 | en1gma | sweet that will be nice to compare |
| 22:03.29 | en1gma | thanks |
| 22:03.30 | SimAtWrk | np |
| 22:03.44 | SimAtWrk | and using monmotha's firewall script to automate the nat |
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| 22:04.32 | en1gma | do you know where i can get that |
| 22:04.44 | en1gma | i heard firestarter works good to but i had nothing but problems with it |
| 22:04.59 | en1gma | might have been because that interfaces config file was messed up to |
| 22:05.01 | SimAtWrk | i know if you google for monmotha it's like the first hit |
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| 22:05.06 | en1gma | ok cool |
| 22:05.06 | SimAtWrk | you might be able to apt-get install it |
| 22:05.09 | SimAtWrk | i know you can emerge it |
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| 22:05.26 | SimAtWrk | http://www.google.com/search?q=monmotha&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8 |
| 22:05.27 | en1gma | k thanks again |
| 22:05.35 | SimAtWrk | np |
| 22:05.58 | en1gma | hey |
| 22:06.05 | en1gma | what do your eth= |
| 22:06.13 | en1gma | which is externel network and which is local |
| 22:06.28 | SimAtWrk | i am not going to answer that question |
| 22:06.40 | en1gma | nm i see the ips :) |
| 22:06.44 | SimAtWrk | :) |
| 22:07.02 | en1gma | if i want to set those to dhcp that shouldnt be a problem should it |
| 22:07.13 | en1gma | i mean dynamic |
| 22:07.21 | SimAtWrk | which one? |
| 22:07.41 | SimAtWrk | if you want the local nic to be dhcp but you also want it to be your nat server that might be a little on the silly side... |
| 22:07.46 | SimAtWrk | but maybe that'd just work.. i'm not really sure. |
| 22:07.50 | en1gma | well both so that way my isp can give me my ip and also dynamic for the local one too |
| 22:08.05 | SimAtWrk | i'd use static for local |
| 22:08.10 | en1gma | ok |
| 22:08.11 | en1gma | cool |
| 22:08.12 | SimAtWrk | and dynamic for the one from your isp |
| 22:08.15 | en1gma | thanks |
| 22:08.18 | SimAtWrk | np |
| 22:08.23 | SimAtWrk | we're wayyy off topic though |
| 22:08.34 | SimAtWrk | so we should move back into "How cool is kde". |
| 22:08.35 | en1gma | are you serious |
| 22:08.43 | SimAtWrk | yah |
| 22:08.44 | en1gma | yea i guess that would be more debian bound wouldnt it |
| 22:08.45 | SimAtWrk | there are some topic nazis in this channel. |
| 22:08.56 | SimAtWrk | or linux/networking in general. |
| 22:08.57 | en1gma | but its kde network manager fault |
| 22:09.11 | en1gma | its not writing stuff to that file when i change its settings |
| 22:09.37 | en1gma | when i configure the kde network manager app it does not write info to the /etc/network/interfaces file |
| 22:10.07 | en1gma | that is why i was saying i thought it was locked....but maybe the kde app is just broken |
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| 22:11.00 | en1gma | let me ask that question while im here too.... |
| 22:11.08 | en1gma | K-menu>Settings>Internet and Network>Network Settings tool does not WRITE to the /etc/network/interfaces file does anyone know why |
| 22:11.26 | en1gma | im using debian sid |
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| 22:12.22 | en1gma | it sets my local connection to dhcp then i change it to static and enter the info and if i restart that connection it goes dhcp again |
| 22:12.27 | en1gma | dhcp will not stay |
| 22:12.32 | en1gma | will not leave |
| 22:12.59 | en1gma | that should be on topic :) |
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| 22:13.28 | nanonyme | sounds like a bug in the writing tool |
| 22:13.40 | nanonyme | en1gma: you can write manually though, right? |
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| 22:13.49 | en1gma | well no |
| 22:13.55 | nanonyme | why not? |
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| 22:14.03 | en1gma | i set it to static and enter all the info and it basically ignores it |
| 22:14.12 | en1gma | dhcp still hangs on kde start |
| 22:14.24 | en1gma | i can not get into kde |
| 22:14.34 | nanonyme | you mean you changed /etc/network/interfaces and it still didn't stay? |
| 22:14.45 | en1gma | it stays in the file but it ignores it |
| 22:14.48 | en1gma | it seams* |
| 22:14.58 | en1gma | well it confilicts i gues |
| 22:15.04 | nanonyme | it's a debian issue anyway |
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| 22:15.07 | en1gma | i set settings in there and kde does not like |
| 22:15.31 | en1gma | let me try SimAtWrk suggestion and ill let you all know what happens |
| 22:15.37 | en1gma | k let me do this and brb |
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| 22:18.45 | en1gma | i just restarted net and here is what is shows |
| 22:18.48 | en1gma | http://pastebin.ca/490236 |
| 22:19.08 | en1gma | eth1 shows no ip |
| 22:19.48 | en1gma | and the local computer is connected and on |
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| 22:20.52 | en1gma | let me shutdown and see if that changes anything |
| 22:20.54 | en1gma | bbiam |
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| 22:26.13 | basselito | Hey, I've got a problem with a Logitech USB Headset I would like to use in linux... I know this probably isn't the correct forum for this question and I apologize, but I don't get any help anywhere else! :S |
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| 22:28.15 | PhilRod | basselito: #yourdistro or #linux perhaps? |
| 22:30.04 | basselito | PhilRod: tried that already... thanks anyhow! :S |
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| 22:34.47 | Kyral_Laptop | grrr |
| 22:35.13 | Kyral_Laptop | How long does it take Konq to delete something from a USB device before it gives up the lock on the FS? |
| 22:36.10 | Kyral_Laptop | Even when I closed the window! Sheesh.. |
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| 22:37.28 | JP_P_home | hello i have a problem with raki that crashes during calendar sync |
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| 22:43.08 | JP_P_home | hello i have a problem with raki that crashes during calendar sync / kubuntu festy |
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| 22:47.57 | jeekl | How do I activate libkontact_basket.(la|so) in kontact? |
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| 22:51.18 | kdepepo | basKet always crashed on me when used with Kontact |
| 22:52.06 | kdepepo | anyway, go to the kontact config dialog |
| 22:53.34 | kdepepo | click on "select components" button, basket should show up there |
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| 23:18.02 | Alethes | :D |
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| 23:21.20 | Alethes | just downloaded all of the zep discography |
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| 23:32.44 | codnix | hi all |
| 23:32.57 | codnix | i cant mount my vfat partition |
| 23:33.19 | codnix | it says "feature only available with HAL" |
| 23:33.27 | codnix | when i try to enter it |
| 23:33.31 | codnix | any idea ? |
| 23:34.24 | Sven | install HAL? |
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| 23:39.45 | JamesB192 | Hah, install Hal and then rebuild kdelibs. |
| 23:41.41 | codnix | JamesB192: what ? |
| 23:41.44 | codnix | rebuild ? |
| 23:42.05 | codnix | JamesB192: that taked years |
| 23:42.06 | codnix | ! |
| 23:42.13 | codnix | took * |
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| 23:43.17 | JamesB192 | or type in 'sudo mount /where/the/fat/device/is /where/you/want/it/mount -t vat' |
| 23:43.48 | JamesB192 | and add a line to yer /etc/fstab . |
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| 23:47.55 | helo | where can i change the keyboard repeat rate in kde? |
| 23:48.24 | Skrot- | kcontrol -> peripherals -> keyboard |
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| 23:49.31 | helo | thanks, you just solved a 2 hour problem lol |
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