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| 00:13.58 | bergheim | MinceR: I have a bunch of entries in a file, is there a way to just cat it to qalc and have it add everything up? |
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| 00:15.23 | MinceR | dunno, i didn't do such complex things with it |
| 00:15.37 | MinceR | bc might be more suited for writing programs |
| 00:15.56 | MinceR | though that doesn't have time calculations afaik |
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| 00:16.53 | wolsni | you could probably use the date command to do conversions if you're shell scripting anyway |
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| 00:17.14 | ace_ | Multihead question... |
| 00:17.42 | ace_ | I was used in kubuntu dapper. when I click on an application to open it, and move the mouse to a certain screen |
| 00:17.46 | ace_ | (I have 3) |
| 00:18.05 | ace_ | that the application would open in that screen, it seems with Feisty, that feature is lost. |
| 00:18.09 | ace_ | Any comments ? |
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| 00:23.51 | DaSkreech | move faster? |
| 00:25.33 | ace_ | DaSkreech: cool idea |
| 00:25.58 | ace_ | or preface every application with sleep 1 ? |
| 00:26.09 | ace_ | So this is not a feature, just a bug ? |
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| 00:27.36 | wolsni | ace_: having windows pop up on the screen where the mouse is is a feature |
| 00:28.27 | n8k99 | ace_: have you tried using katapult or alt+f2 to open applications |
| 00:28.46 | n8k99 | that way you could get the windows to open on the screen you have the mouse on |
| 00:30.18 | DaSkreech | n8k99: I think it's the switch that he wants |
| 00:30.48 | wolsni | ace_: if you go to the window behavior config in kcontrol |
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| 00:31.09 | wolsni | go to the movement tab and make sure the placement dropdown is set to "Smart" |
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| 00:45.27 | ace_ | wolsni: the /smart/ is on, but the 'allow moving and resizing of maximized windows' was off. |
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| 00:46.20 | ace_ | Now I can move maximized windows over different screens - great! that would be my next question |
| 00:46.24 | ace_ | since it is standard in gnome |
| 00:46.29 | ace_ | and it's really helpful ! |
| 00:46.48 | ace_ | but wehn I open stuff by clicking on a panel, it still goes somewhere else. |
| 00:47.01 | ace_ | I don't use Alt-F2 a lot, and never used katapult. |
| 00:47.39 | wolsni | hmm, i thought "Smart" placement was it |
| 00:48.02 | wolsni | either (a) I'm wrong about that or (b) Ubuntu introduced a bug and you need to report it |
| 00:48.32 | wolsni | you might go ahead and report the bug and then if it's not someone will correct you and tell you what the setting is :) |
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| 00:49.23 | ace_ | I think it is 'active mouse screen' in the 'focus' tab! |
| 00:50.09 | wolsni | ace_: there you go then :) |
| 00:50.44 | wolsni | maybe that option's not showing for me because I only have one screen right now |
| 00:51.46 | ace_ | thx a lot, lot's of new options there, good! |
| 00:51.51 | ace_ | bye and thx again. |
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| 00:52.00 | benJIman | ace_: sure check the "allow moving of maximised windows" box |
| 00:52.07 | wolsni | there usually are plenty of options in KDE :) |
| 00:52.15 | wolsni | benJIman: he already found it |
| 00:52.22 | ace_ | wolsni: the allow moving is really good ! |
| 00:52.24 | benJIman | ah |
| 00:52.36 | benJIman | ace_: only troulbe is if you allow that then the window buttons moving to edge of screen doesn't work |
| 00:53.14 | benJIman | Which is really nasty |
| 00:53.14 | benJIman | Can't live without that |
| 00:53.14 | wolsni | benJIman: what? |
| 00:53.21 | benJIman | wolsni: if you have allow moving maximized windows unchecked then when you maximise a window the window decoration buttons move to the very edge of the screen |
| 00:53.26 | benJIman | which makes them far easier to hit with a mouse |
| 00:53.42 | benJIman | you just throw mouse to top left to close, and along the edge for the other buttons |
| 00:53.42 | wolsni | ah |
| 00:54.11 | benJIman | You're hitting an infinite target instead of a 10 pixel wide target |
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| 00:54.32 | wolsni | especially with a thin deco like Web |
| 00:54.43 | wolsni | they're still right up there |
| 00:54.52 | benJIman | not with web |
| 00:55.16 | benJIman | Doesn't matter if they're close, the 1 pixel in the corner of the screen is all-important. |
| 00:55.25 | DaSkreech | Ctrl+Q ? |
| 00:55.45 | wolsni | DaSkreech is right, keyboard shortcuts ++ |
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| 00:55.53 | benJIman | I use keyboard mostly yes, but when using the mouse it's nice to have the nice designed features for mousing |
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| 00:56.07 | DaSkreech | My Mouse sits over --------> there |
| 00:56.15 | DaSkreech | it causes me to exercise to use it |
| 00:56.19 | benJIman | You can use the keyboard for moving windows too |
| 00:56.21 | wolsni | benJIman: how often is it that you throw the mouse like that and don't move it at all when you pick it up? |
| 00:56.23 | benJIman | alt-space-m |
| 00:56.25 | DaSkreech | I like keyboard shortcuts |
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| 00:56.39 | heath_ | does anyoone know how to convert pdf to odt? |
| 00:56.39 | benJIman | wolsni: all the time |
| 00:56.40 | DaSkreech | Well Alt=F3 -> m for me |
| 00:57.10 | wolsni | heath_: kword can import PDFs for editing, but it's pretty lousy at preserving the formatting |
| 00:57.14 | benJIman | I don't like the default alt-f1-f2-f3 shortcuts, difficult to stretch for compared to windows defaults |
| 00:57.33 | wolsni | benJIman: good thing they're configurable then |
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| 00:58.36 | heath_ | wolsni: thank you! i'll try that. |
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| 00:58.48 | wolsni | heath_: good luck with that |
| 00:58.52 | vijayr | itunes 7.1 works |
| 00:58.55 | vijayr | in crossover?1 |
| 01:00.12 | wolsni | vijayr: you're off-topic with that one |
| 01:00.31 | Jucato | vijayr: ask in your distro channel or in crossover's channel |
| 01:00.35 | ace_ | wolsni: benJIman: just found 'hide utility windows for inactive applications'. |
| 01:00.55 | wolsni | vijayr: #crossover |
| 01:01.04 | ace_ | I hope that will unhide some windows that konquerer pops up when it's having trouble with a certificate or kdewallet, and that don't let you |
| 01:01.15 | ace_ | continue but you can't find those windows in the windows list! |
| 01:01.30 | wolsni | ace_: sorry, those dialogs aren't utility windows |
| 01:02.06 | ace_ | wolsni: okay, then, what are utility windwos and how do I unhide those dialogs ? |
| 01:02.09 | wolsni | it's referring to windows like detached toolbars from KDE apps |
| 01:02.32 | wolsni | ace_: perhaps you should decrease your focus stealing prevention level |
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| 01:04.21 | ace_ | wolsni: it's low |
| 01:04.41 | ace_ | wolsni: why don't they show up with alt-tab ? |
| 01:05.00 | wolsni | they're dialogs |
| 01:05.23 | wolsni | it would probably be easier to track them down by middle-clicking on titlebars |
| 01:05.35 | wolsni | which sends the window you click to the bottom |
| 01:06.13 | ace_ | wolsni: you are a developer ?? |
| 01:06.31 | wolsni | nope |
| 01:06.38 | wolsni | just a user for the past 3 years or so |
| 01:06.48 | ace_ | wolsni: me neither but the probleme with these dialogs especially with konquerer |
| 01:06.50 | wolsni | maybe i'll become a developer soon though |
| 01:07.01 | ace_ | is that they sometimes block other (konquerer) windows |
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| 01:07.19 | ace_ | for instance if one of the hidden windows on a desktop far, far away spawns a dialog |
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| 01:07.25 | vjpwn | hii |
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| 01:07.27 | vjpwn | can anyone hear me? |
| 01:07.28 | ace_ | for username/passw on a wbesite |
| 01:07.34 | ace_ | vjpwn: yes |
| 01:07.37 | vjpwn | kthx |
| 01:07.38 | wolsni | ace_: it definitely is a problem |
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| 01:07.44 | vjpwn | hey, what program do u guys use for aim, i want a good looking one |
| 01:07.52 | QBob | hi all -- I just installed xorg 7.2, and now kxkb is not working properly -- it doesn't seem to affect the majority of my running applications |
| 01:07.55 | wolsni | vjpwn: check out kopete |
| 01:07.58 | ace_ | then some other windows are blocked and then try to find the dialog box in the 46 open apps over 10 desktops! |
| 01:08.15 | wolsni | recent (>0.12) versions support Adium themes which tend to be pretty nice |
| 01:08.20 | vjpwn | kopete is ugly |
| 01:08.21 | QBob | any ideas? |
| 01:08.40 | DaSkreech | aimexpress.aim.com |
| 01:08.42 | wolsni | vjpwn: mkay then |
| 01:08.44 | ace_ | wolsni: maybe i'll look into bug reports for kde/konq, thx for all the info, gotta go now!! |
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| 01:09.53 | wolsni | the only linux native aim clients I know of are naim, gaim, and kopete |
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| 01:10.00 | Ze_M | anyone that can help with unsermake? |
| 01:10.08 | orville | pidgin |
| 01:10.16 | wolsni | i guess there's also bitlbee + irc client of your choice |
| 01:10.22 | orville | Ze_M: with what precisely? |
| 01:10.22 | wolsni | ah, right, orville |
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| 01:11.04 | Ze_M | i need to know what are the differences between a makefile that works with make and one that works with also unsermake |
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| 01:11.53 | orville | Ze_M: you seem to be ahead of the game cuz i have no clue. |
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| 01:12.12 | orville | regardless i still build applications with unsrmake. |
| 01:12.27 | Ze_M | i also use unsermake |
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| 01:19.16 | niskel | simple question: how do I remove the background from the folder view of konqueror? |
| 01:19.27 | benJIman | view -> configure background |
| 01:19.48 | kdepepo | simple answer :) |
| 01:19.54 | niskel | haha, never thought to look there, the most logical spot in my mind was in the settings menu |
| 01:19.57 | niskel | thanks |
| 01:20.12 | kdepepo | it should belong there, yes |
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| 01:37.12 | david2 | crm114 in kmail |
| 01:37.20 | david2 | what version of kmail do I need? |
| 01:37.39 | david2 | I have it working on my kunbuntu box.. Want it running on my gentoo one |
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| 02:18.39 | vijayr | how do i install sound |
| 02:18.41 | vijayr | for sabayon |
| 02:18.45 | majortool | i deleted my wine menu and now newly installed wine programs don't show up, anyone know why? |
| 02:19.22 | wolsni | vijayr: #sabayon |
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| 02:19.35 | Jucato | majortool: um.. #winehq |
| 02:20.09 | majortool | Jucato, i thought it would be the kde integration causing this issue since i didn't actually use the wine program to modify the kde configuration |
| 02:21.04 | Jucato | majortool: you can check in ~/.wine if the programs are still installed. most probably they are. but since you deleted the wine menu in the K Menu, then you don't have a way to launch them from the menu |
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| 02:21.43 | majortool | Jucato, i thought the menu would regenerate |
| 02:22.17 | Jucato | um. no. you deleted it :) |
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| 02:22.48 | majortool | Jucato, yes and now i want to know how to get it back |
| 02:23.02 | greeneg | hi *, anyonw know if there is a specific channel for quanta questions? |
| 02:23.44 | Jucato | greeneg: #quanta ? or you could try in here if someone knows |
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| 02:24.21 | Jucato | majortool: hm... you can try this command if it will regenerate it: kbuildsycoca --incremental |
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| 02:24.34 | Jucato | majortool: ignore the error messages |
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| 02:25.02 | greeneg | I've a linked in css file, in my html, and the browser seems to be ignoring it :S |
| 02:26.10 | vijayr | hey |
| 02:26.12 | vijayr | i have some problems |
| 02:26.22 | vijayr | i keep getting |
| 02:26.24 | vijayr | random black windows |
| 02:26.25 | vijayr | :< |
| 02:26.38 | ejm | what windows? |
| 02:26.43 | padde | vijayr: beryl? |
| 02:26.53 | vijayr | yea |
| 02:27.02 | padde | vijayr: nvidia driver? |
| 02:27.07 | vijayr | yea |
| 02:27.08 | vijayr | latest |
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| 02:27.24 | padde | vijayr: http://www.google.com/search?q=beryl+nvidia+black+window&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8 |
| 02:27.55 | padde | vijayr: not much you can do, except not using beryl or switching to copy-mode, which is darn slow with many windows... |
| 02:28.11 | vijayr | downgradeing to 3 |
| 02:28.12 | padde | vijayr: perhaps write some mails to nvidia to nag them ;) |
| 02:28.14 | vijayr | is a choice |
| 02:28.14 | vijayr | lol |
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| 02:28.42 | Jucato | or try asking in #beryl or your distro's channel |
| 02:29.06 | vijayr | k |
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| 02:30.18 | padde | there is no real cure.. just workarounds which make beryl slower... the nvidia closed source driver is just broken |
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| 02:50.17 | grendal_prime | is it me or does konquror just not support image maps? |
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| 02:55.28 | grendal_prime | is it me or does konquror just not support image maps? |
| 02:55.48 | grendal_prime | and how would i go about installing some sort of spelling files in quanta..?? |
| 02:56.09 | DaSkreech | aspell would be my guess |
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| 03:02.04 | grendal_prime | thanks DaSkreech but i have that installed seems to have no effect |
| 03:02.41 | grendal_prime | The spelling program could not be started. Please make sure you have set the correct spelling program and that it is properly configured and in your PATH. |
| 03:02.47 | grendal_prime | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:03.18 | Jucato | check KControl -> KDE Components -> Spell Checker |
| 03:03.30 | Jucato | or is Quanta the only one whose spell checking isn't working? |
| 03:09.08 | grendal_prime | ill check |
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| 03:10.05 | grendal_prime | says its using ispel |
| 03:10.08 | grendal_prime | ispell |
| 03:10.20 | Jucato | then use aspell if you installed aspell :) |
| 03:10.24 | wolsni | grendal_prime: so install ispell or switch it to aspell |
| 03:10.47 | grendal_prime | there is no aspel option it in |
| 03:10.57 | grendal_prime | i know aspell is installed |
| 03:11.32 | grendal_prime | so is ispell |
| 03:12.18 | grendal_prime | nevermind i found it. |
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| 03:13.54 | grendal_prime | thanks guys that fixed that |
| 03:14.52 | grendal_prime | ok now anyone use quanta..and the kimagemap plugin? because for some reason the only browser that seems to work with the image maps i create with it is firefox..unfortunatly some of the views will be using ie.. |
| 03:15.23 | grendal_prime | i ment clients reading the docs |
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| 03:37.13 | navarro | Hola |
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| 04:05.01 | grendal_prime | ya this is making me crazy.. |
| 04:05.12 | grendal_prime | my imagemaps only work in firefox. |
| 04:05.21 | grendal_prime | ie chocks one them |
| 04:05.26 | grendal_prime | and so does konquror |
| 04:05.50 | Chani | eeevil image maps |
| 04:06.26 | Chani | I gave up on html quite a while ago. |
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| 04:08.39 | grendal_prime | its not like they are all that complicated man |
| 04:08.51 | grendal_prime | they are a standard thing.. |
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| 04:22.07 | scx | ~bugs |
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| 04:34.06 | jacquesmerde | i want to buy an old refurbed laptop which will be able to run kde4 when it comes out. its for uni, so i want to be able to run konq and koffice, but not watch movies, etc... what minimum specs do i need? |
| 04:37.11 | Chani | well, my mum's old celery 333 runs kde3 |
| 04:37.24 | Chani | runs is a bit slowly, but it's fine for her |
| 04:37.36 | jacquesmerde | celeron? that's equiv to a PII, yeah? |
| 04:37.40 | jacquesmerde | how much ram? |
| 04:37.50 | Chani | it has lots of ram for its age - 196 iirc |
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| 04:40.00 | scx | Hi, does somebody knows a related bug about kalarm crashing when saving new? |
| 04:40.22 | wolsni | scx: have you searched on bugs.kde.org? |
| 04:43.05 | scx | wolsni: yes, don't see any recent and related |
| 04:43.25 | wolsni | then you should add it |
| 04:44.05 | scx | I think I have an idea... |
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| 04:44.33 | scx | nope, I[ll add it |
| 04:45.20 | scx | :) |
| 04:46.46 | rajkt | I have katapult in system tray... I dont use it..how to stop it from appearng in system tray? |
| 04:47.02 | wolsni | rajkt: right click on it and choose quit |
| 04:58.32 | Chani | katapult can appear in systray? |
| 04:58.33 | Chani | I never knew |
| 04:58.35 | Chani | mine has a habit of locking up if I do something funny by accident |
| 04:58.35 | rajkt | wolsni: what is the use of katapult? |
| 04:58.36 | wolsni | Chani: as far as I know, the tray icon is default behavior |
| 04:58.37 | wolsni | rajkt: it's a launcher |
| 04:58.37 | wolsni | press alt+space to pop up the katapult dialog |
| 04:58.38 | wolsni | and then you can type in things and it will launch them |
| 04:58.38 | scx | I don't like that shurtcut |
| 04:58.38 | wolsni | amarok songs, apps, probably other things I don't remember |
| 04:58.39 | scx | it should be linked to the window itself |
| 04:58.39 | rajkt | I use alt+space for window menu.. so I changed it to ctrl+space |
| 04:58.40 | wolsni | it's the default, obviously you can change it to suit you |
| 04:58.41 | scx | everybody change it, that's why I say t |
| 04:58.42 | rajkt | but when I press, it ust shows katapult ico |
| 04:58.42 | rajkt | I dot see any dialog |
| 04:58.43 | wolsni | and then start typing |
| 04:58.43 | wolsni | type in "firefox" for example |
| 04:58.48 | rajkt | oh I see.. great I will use it.. it wud be useful.. |
| 04:58.48 | rajkt | thanks wolsni |
| 04:58.51 | wolsni | rajkt: there's also a built-in KDE run dialog that should pop up when you press alt+f2 |
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| 04:58.56 | wolsni | it only does applications and URLs but I prefer it to katapult |
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| 04:59.10 | jlowell | hi |
| 04:59.11 | jlowell | anyone happen to know where to get linspire 5 kde theme? |
| 05:01.27 | Jucato | wolsni: it does math and kio stuff too |
| 05:01.40 | Jucato | alt+f2 I mean |
| 05:01.42 | wolsni | "kio stuff" ? |
| 05:02.03 | wolsni | i think I lumped that in with URLs |
| 05:02.10 | Jucato | :) |
| 05:02.29 | Jucato | web shortcuts should be lumped in there too I guess |
| 05:02.35 | Jucato | (gg:, wp:, etc) |
| 05:02.56 | Jucato | it just doesn't autocomplete (except when it's in the history) :( |
| 05:03.30 | wolsni | it's true |
| 05:03.44 | wolsni | there are things I like about katapult too |
| 05:04.12 | Jucato | :) |
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| 05:04.44 | Jucato | one thing slightly annoying about katapult though, is that it doesn't immediately get updated when you install something new |
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| 05:07.12 | scx | What is that data in front of every line in a bug backtrace? |
| 05:07.17 | scx | like: 0x080cc862 |
| 05:07.57 | scx | the simbol? |
| 05:07.57 | wolsni | looks like a hexadecimal value; i'd guess a location in memory |
| 05:08.13 | scx | no he since it has an 8 |
| 05:08.34 | Jucato | ? |
| 05:08.39 | wolsni | ? are you saying hexadecimal values can't have the numeral 8 in them? |
| 05:08.41 | scx | (where that 'he' came from?) |
| 05:08.52 | Jucato | hex goes from 0-9 iirc |
| 05:09.02 | wolsni | hex goes from 0-f |
| 05:09.09 | Jucato | I mean, the numeric part |
| 05:09.10 | scx | no |
| 05:09.17 | Jucato | bah nvm |
| 05:09.22 | scx | 123456 ABCDEF |
| 05:09.57 | wolsni | scx: hexadecimal means base 16 |
| 05:10.12 | Jucato | my book says 0123456789ABCDEF |
| 05:10.21 | scx | 12345~16 ? |
| 05:10.24 | Jucato | that counts for 16 numbers (base 16) |
| 05:10.36 | scx | ah! |
| 05:10.40 | wolsni | it's like Jucato says |
| 05:10.45 | scx | ok, logical |
| 05:10.47 | Jucato | 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 A B C D E F |
| 05:11.13 | Jucato | anyway, the "0x" is a dead giveaway |
| 05:11.14 | wolsni | there's way more detail than you probably want at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hexadecimal |
| 05:11.27 | scx | otherwise it would be called hexal I guess |
| 05:11.41 | Jucato | 0x before a number usually means it's hexadecimal |
| 05:12.00 | Jucato | wow this book *is* useful :P |
| 05:12.12 | wolsni | base six is called senary according to wikipedia |
| 05:12.51 | Jucato | base 8 is octal, usually identified with a leading 0, iirc |
| 05:13.06 | wolsni | Jucato: got that too |
| 05:13.26 | scx | Maybe that was the reason of my confussion... |
| 05:13.59 | Jucato | mine was Pascal :) |
| 05:14.07 | Jucato | begin end :) |
| 05:14.27 | wolsni | actually, C/C++ is the only language I've worked with that compiles to machine code |
| 05:14.36 | Jucato | er.. that was "so funny :)" |
| 05:15.24 | Jucato | wolsni: then maybe you can help me a bit...*myBrain returns NULL :( |
| 05:16.04 | wolsni | Jucato: without any context I'm not sure I can help :P |
| 05:16.23 | scx | :) |
| 05:16.43 | Jucato | ah I seem to be missing int main() :) |
| 05:18.48 | wolsni | Jucato: if you don't make it "int main(int argc, char**argv)" then you won't be able to have arguments |
| 05:19.06 | wolsni | and when people make braindead comments in #kde you'll just have to put up with it :D |
| 05:19.09 | Jucato | I'm not the argumentative type anyway :) |
| 05:20.34 | Jucato | return app.exec(); |
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| 05:23.48 | fatman | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:25.26 | Jucato | too bad I can't kick him here too :P |
| 05:25.26 | wolsni | charming |
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| 05:25.31 | scx | he's spam? |
| 05:25.33 | Jucato | yep |
| 05:25.47 | wolsni | wow, what was your first clue? |
| 05:26.08 | Jucato | no. my first clue was the exact same message in 2 channels that I'm in. |
| 05:26.17 | Jucato | unlucky for him, I'm an op in the other one :P |
| 05:27.25 | Jucato | hm... 3 days till F7 |
| 05:27.33 | wolsni | it's true |
| 05:27.47 | wolsni | unfortunately for me i'll be travelling when it's released |
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| 05:29.45 | Jucato | aw :( |
| 05:29.45 | Jucato | it will be the first Fedora that I will try. although I have the 5 FC 6 CD's :) |
| 05:29.45 | wolsni | it looks like it'll be a pretty nice release |
| 05:29.46 | wolsni | there'll be a KDE version of the installer :D |
| 05:30.44 | Jucato | that's what I'm looking forward to. rumor has it that F7 will have better KDE support :) |
| 05:30.56 | Jucato | oh by installer, do you mean CD or DVD? |
| 05:31.33 | Jucato | I'm also curious about the new artwork and icons |
| 05:31.33 | wolsni | there should be both |
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| 05:31.48 | Workaphobia | It's rather disturbing to see in scrollback random people loving WP until I see that means "wikipedia" and not "workaphobia" |
| 05:31.59 | Jucato | lol |
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| 05:48.21 | rajkt | Katapult wont start GNOME apps? I ttyped gedit it can't start it.. whereas the run window alt+f2 could start it.. |
| 05:49.22 | Skrot- | katapult only starts apps with .desktop-files it can find methinks |
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| 05:50.01 | wolsni | if kmenu can find it, shouldn't katapult find it as well? |
| 05:50.31 | Jucato | it should |
| 05:50.42 | Jucato | rajkt: did you install gedit just now? |
| 05:51.15 | rajkt | Jucato: no long back |
| 05:51.20 | Jucato | hm. strange then |
| 05:51.36 | Jucato | I can launch GTK and non-KDE apps from Katapult. |
| 05:51.47 | wolsni | scx: this is a problem with katapult, so #kde is appropriate |
| 05:52.31 | Skrot- | Whats the shortcut to show the menu in katapult? I don't have it systrayed |
| 05:52.41 | Jucato | Skrot-: Ctrl+C |
| 05:52.48 | Jucato | well, Alt+Space, Ctrl+C |
| 05:52.55 | Skrot- | yupp :) |
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| 05:54.14 | Skrot- | Maybe disable "Ignore applications without icons"? |
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| 06:00.07 | michael__ | can someone please help, im using kubuntu, and when i start the knetworkmanager loads as a green globe but when i right click it, it says its not runing |
| 06:01.34 | wolsni | michael__: there's a daemon that runs in the background called NetworkManager that needs to be active for knetworkmanager to work |
| 06:02.05 | wolsni | ask in #ubuntu or #kubuntu about how to ensure it's running |
| 06:03.12 | michael__ | hmm im getting a dbus error |
| 06:03.23 | michael__ | and i was fuxxing with dbus earlier to try and get a compile to work |
| 06:03.49 | wolsni | ah |
| 06:04.13 | wolsni | well knetworkmanager uses DBUS to interact with NetworkManager so that's probably the problem |
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| 06:04.56 | bush-rules | Anyone seen ereslibre? |
| 06:06.13 | Jucato | bush-rules: he's usually in #kde-devel but seems not to be there currently |
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| 06:06.48 | bush-rules | I wanna tell him hes doin great with kcontrol, his hacking work for interfae improvement is A+++ |
| 06:07.44 | Jucato | I'll remember to tell him that when he comes around :) |
| 06:08.16 | bush-rules | cheers, I might just email him |
| 06:08.25 | Jucato | or comment in his blog. :) |
| 06:08.36 | bush-rules | True - thanks |
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| 06:11.39 | michael__ | also my battery icon isnt showing |
| 06:11.43 | michael__ | so im assuming thats dbus as well? |
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| 07:31.01 | orville | narf? |
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| 07:34.39 | orville | hey there sabayon user |
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| 07:40.18 | sabayonlive-1296 | Alguien habla español? |
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| 07:40.54 | orville | no, habla ingles. |
| 07:41.27 | scx | Hi, I am to report a bug about kalarm but I can't see the program liisted |
| 07:41.32 | sabayonlive-1296 | Ok... |
| 07:41.40 | scx | sabayonlive-1296: Yo hable, /pvt me |
| 07:42.02 | scx | or ask in english |
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| 07:42.14 | orville | isn't there #kde-es |
| 07:42.40 | orville | two people. but better than one :-) |
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| 07:42.45 | scx | didn't know till now |
| 07:42.47 | sabayonlive-1296 | scx... Sabes si puedo usar la misma partición SWAP para Sabayon y Ubuntu? |
| 07:42.53 | c0nv1ct | i've got what seems to be a memory leak in kicker 3.5.7, it fills up my 2gb of ram and my 2gb swap, cant figure out what exactly is causing it, anyone have an idea how i can better troubleshoot the problem? |
| 07:43.00 | scx | forwarding to pvt... |
| 07:43.39 | orville | c0nv1ct: how much memory is kicker using up now? |
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| 07:44.08 | c0nv1ct | orville: i've had to kill it 3 times today, its been running for about an hour, and it shows at 31% right now |
| 07:44.13 | orville | c0nv1ct: and is this a vanilla kicker install or have you added applets? |
| 07:44.27 | c0nv1ct | orville: i have applets, i'm removing them now |
| 07:44.36 | orville | c0nv1ct: is that the amount of memory use or cpu ? |
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| 07:44.48 | c0nv1ct | memory use, according to top |
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| 07:45.52 | orville | c0nv1ct: these applets, are they ones provided with kde? or did they come from kde-apps or some other website? |
| 07:45.55 | c0nv1ct | 26350 0.8 31.5 732324 649420 ? S May27 0:36 kicker is the line in 'ps aux' |
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| 07:46.10 | c0nv1ct | orville: the only 3rd party one is tastymenu |
| 07:46.22 | c0nv1ct | orville: the rest were from kicker-applets package |
| 07:46.49 | scx | How the heck do I report a kalarm bug? |
| 07:46.59 | orville | c0nv1ct: I would remove tastymenu, restart kicker and then see if memory leakage continues. |
| 07:47.08 | c0nv1ct | orville: k, will do |
| 07:47.19 | orville | scx: a moment... |
| 07:47.35 | c0nv1ct | it seems pretty slow, takes a few hours for it to get severe, hope its just tastymenu :) |
| 07:49.08 | orville | scx: it's in the product box... |
| 07:49.50 | orville | both in the Help - Report Bug... menu and at bugs.kde.org |
| 07:50.15 | orville | how are you having trouble reporting a bug? |
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| 07:53.26 | scx | orville: heh... :p didn't scroll down |
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| 07:53.58 | orville | you can also type in an entry and it will take you there. |
| 07:54.37 | basanta | i was looking for the best mp3 player in kde |
| 07:54.52 | orville | amarok |
| 07:56.03 | basanta | orville, ok |
| 07:56.39 | basanta | orville, does this need any add-ons |
| 07:56.57 | thiago | no |
| 07:57.01 | thiago | it uses the xine engine to play |
| 07:57.03 | orville | basanta: need any addons? |
| 07:57.11 | thiago | if the xine engine is properly installed, it can play |
| 07:57.34 | orville | sup thiago. |
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| 07:57.46 | basanta | orville, you know like kubuntu has amarok but still needs some addon to be installed again |
| 07:57.58 | orville | basanta: ah. right. |
| 07:58.26 | orville | basanta: yeah. you'll needs xine-extracodecs for mp3 playback |
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| 08:01.49 | basanta | ah.. xine-extracodecs is not provided with debian |
| 08:03.02 | orville | basanta: search for xine and choose the one that provides 'extra' :-) |
| 08:03.53 | basanta | orville, aptitude search xine | grep extra --> no result |
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| 08:04.17 | orville | basanta: which xine packages are provided? |
| 08:04.30 | Jucato | basanta: you'll have to ask in #debian what the MP3 package for xine is |
| 08:05.14 | Jucato | (wherever the #debian channel is, I heard they're in OFTC) |
| 08:05.23 | orville | basanta: also, amarok will actually give you a link to install whatever's necessary if once you try to play an mp3. |
| 08:05.58 | basanta | orville, yes but that is what I don't want |
| 08:06.09 | orville | why? |
| 08:06.27 | basanta | orville, I am building a cd for normal user who doesn't even have internet access |
| 08:06.29 | orville | it's exactly the same as just installing the deb file |
| 08:06.41 | orville | ah. |
| 08:06.46 | orville | in that case |
| 08:06.54 | scx | Jucato: just type /join #debian |
| 08:07.11 | Jucato | scx: why are you telling me this? |
| 08:07.14 | scx | you basically need marillat tho |
| 08:07.36 | scx | Jucato: sry, wrong user |
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| 08:09.51 | orville | basanta: libxine-ffmpeg |
| 08:10.14 | orville | basanta: libxine-extracodecs should have provided that as a deb. |
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| 08:11.11 | Jucato | orville: not if he's not on Kubuntu. it's a kubuntu-only package |
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| 08:12.11 | orville | basanta: you usig debian proper or k()ubuntu? |
| 08:12.38 | basanta | orville, oh I am sorry I didn't mention I use debian/etch proper |
| 08:13.05 | Jucato | actually you did mention :) |
| 08:13.10 | Jucato | indirectly |
| 08:13.14 | Chani | basanta: also, do you have the right sources for apt? the not-completely-free ones? |
| 08:13.26 | Jucato | hi Chani |
| 08:13.31 | orville | well last time i checked, which admittedly was a while ago, debian didn't gayify it's multimedia packages |
| 08:13.33 | Chani | for kubuntu they had to be uncommented manually |
| 08:13.34 | basanta | Chani, main contrib |
| 08:13.40 | orville | so i don't think you need to worry about it. |
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| 08:13.55 | Chani | hmm |
| 08:14.04 | Chani | I haven't used debian proper in a long time |
| 08:14.13 | Jucato | the non-free repos I presume |
| 08:14.22 | orville | but why would you intentionally burden someone new w/ debian etch? that's just cruel and unusual |
| 08:14.46 | orville | downright unconstitutional i say. :-) |
| 08:14.56 | basanta | orville, he he he |
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| 08:17.57 | basanta | orville, i know if I install kdemultimedia, there are some which work but I don't want to put all of those. |
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| 08:20.20 | KevinAlaska | well howdy everyone! :) in gnome i was asked to go to the follwing > "System->Preferences->Sessions" is there an equivelent in KDE? |
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| 08:21.16 | Jucato | KevinAlaska: System Settings -> Advanced tab -> Session Manager |
| 08:22.05 | KevinAlaska | ahh.. sweet.. thanks jucato.. and hay .. I think I have talked to you before.. :) thanks none-the-less. |
| 08:22.16 | Jucato | :) |
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| 08:51.12 | fishsponge_ | hey people - i've just done a full update from smart on 10.1, and kmymoney doesn't work... all i get is this: |
| 08:51.26 | fishsponge_ | kmymoney: symbol lookup error: kmymoney: undefined symbol: _ZN13KDChartParams18KDCHART_NO_DATASETE |
| 08:51.38 | fishsponge_ | sorry, i meant to say "on suse 10.1" |
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| 08:53.10 | fishsponge_ | does anyone know how to fix this easily? |
| 08:55.03 | Jucato | fishsponge_: might want to try asking in #suse or #opensuse-kde |
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| 08:55.33 | fishsponge_ | well, i tried that and they suggested here because it looks like a kmymoney problem, not a suse problem... |
| 08:55.41 | scx | actually seems to be a kmymoney issue |
| 08:56.00 | scx | but didn't see you in #suse tho |
| 08:56.23 | fishsponge_ | it was a while ago now i think... not had time to get back to it since... |
| 08:56.43 | scx | fishsponge_: try to reinstall |
| 08:56.54 | fishsponge_ | pre-wraning: i may ned to disappear at short notice any time soon... apologies for this! |
| 08:57.14 | fishsponge_ | ok... will do... if that fails i may be back, but i'll try that first! |
| 08:57.20 | fishsponge_ | thanks scx! |
| 08:57.31 | fishsponge_ | ok, i need to leave unfortuately... thanks though! |
| 08:57.33 | thiago | fishsponge_: install a non-broken package |
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| 08:57.42 | thiago | fishsponge_: you probably have a broken dependency |
| 08:57.54 | scx | thiago: he left |
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| 08:58.35 | scx | thiago: Actually there's just the yaloki's package and doesn't have much deps |
| 08:58.44 | scx | anyway... |
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| 09:02.52 | Skrot- | Where's dannya with my weekly commit-digest fix? :( |
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| 09:03.50 | orville | :-) |
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| 09:17.51 | scx | I just wander how to be an op here? |
| 09:18.10 | orville | get ninja skillz |
| 09:18.23 | scx | :) |
| 09:18.31 | scx | I am not requesting tho |
| 09:18.52 | scx | just wander if there's such thing as an irc team |
| 09:18.59 | orville | wonder |
| 09:19.06 | orville | :-) |
| 09:19.34 | scx | I'll wonder when I know the anser |
| 09:19.39 | scx | err: answer |
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| 09:27.17 | fisho | whats the latest rpm for kde desktop ? |
| 09:27.23 | fisho | pacgake* |
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| 09:27.33 | fisho | package* |
| 09:27.35 | fisho | ? |
| 09:28.30 | Tm_T | rpm? |
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| 09:30.00 | fisho | yes |
| 09:30.00 | Tm_T | what's rpm? |
| 09:30.01 | fisho | packages |
| 09:30.01 | Jucato | fisho: ask in your distribution's channel |
| 09:30.01 | Tm_T | sounds like something distro specific |
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| 09:30.02 | fisho | yes it is sorry |
| 09:30.02 | aseigo | fisho: depends on your distro. we recently release 3.5.7, but whether there are packages available for your os varies |
| 09:30.03 | Tm_T | so yes, distro channel ;) |
| 09:30.03 | fisho | Mandriva to be exact |
| 09:30.05 | fisho | ah |
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| 09:30.14 | Jucato | Tm_T: RedHat Package Manager (if I got it correctly) |
| 09:30.21 | fisho | distro chan as in #distro >? |
| 09:30.22 | Jucato | the counterpart of Deb |
| 09:31.30 | Tm_T | Jucato: I know, just fooling |
| 09:31.30 | Jucato | lol ok you had me fooled |
| 09:31.30 | Jucato | fisho: #mandriva |
| 09:31.31 | fisho | thakns |
| 09:31.31 | Tm_T | aseigo: I wonder, newest could be kde4-alpha ? |
| 09:31.31 | rajkt | How to test if I have dual processors or single processor? |
| 09:31.31 | Jucato | only sleepig now aseigo_zzZZzz? sweet dreams! :) |
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| 09:38.42 | bentob0x | I have my taskbar and K Menu on the LHS of my desktop and I need to always do "Icons -> Line up Vertically" to make sure I see all the icons on my desktop, it seems that the icons get positionned below the Kmenu/taskbar that's on the left, is this a known bug? |
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| 09:47.25 | scx | How do I report a bug in the crash handler? |
| 09:47.44 | scx | shouldn't be a link in the crashhandler to kde.bugs |
| 09:48.07 | scx | if not a complete app to hanlde it... |
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| 09:48.29 | Jucato | Help -> Report Bug? |
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| 09:49.03 | scx | Jucato: there's no help |
| 09:49.11 | Jucato | oh |
| 09:49.16 | Jucato | what app? |
| 09:49.34 | scx | ahh... it is dronqui... |
| 09:50.08 | straw | if you don't have a debug build, the crash handler's trace probably won't be useful |
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| 09:50.21 | scx | Jucato: well the page wizard could be sustituted by an application wizard |
| 09:50.34 | scx | Actually I think I can mak it... |
| 09:51.05 | scx | straw: What's the sense of reporting bugs then? |
| 09:51.45 | straw | not much without debug info using this method |
| 09:52.37 | straw | some distros provide separate packages containing the stripped data |
| 09:53.13 | scx | straw: like? |
| 09:53.40 | straw | Fedora. not sure about others |
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| 09:54.31 | scx | Do you know about F4 ? |
| 09:54.44 | scx | I have the disks around and could take a look |
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| 09:55.36 | straw | it's usually pkgname-debuginfo-version |
| 09:55.48 | scx | aaahhh |
| 09:56.01 | straw | etc. not sure they're on the cds though |
| 09:56.19 | scx | I tought you meant that there was a dronqi sustitute somewhere |
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| 09:56.38 | scx | straw: It is on all distros I've seen |
| 09:56.52 | scx | straw: depends on the app itself |
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| 10:04.27 | rajkt | when is KDE4 expected? what wil i get in it? |
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| 10:05.38 | apokryphos | apt: roadmap is http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.0_Release_Roadmap |
| 10:06.32 | apt | okay, apokryphos |
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| 10:06.36 | apokryphos | rajkt: ^ |
| 10:07.58 | rajkt | is there any stats on how much % uses KDE and how much % GNOME? |
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| 10:08.35 | straw | percent of what? |
| 10:08.58 | scx | rajkt: It is pretty hard to know |
| 10:09.15 | scx | rajkt: most of the users do not tell |
| 10:09.29 | apokryphos | rajkt: if you mean memory, Lubos famously did some benchmark tests some time ago http://ktown.kde.org/~seli/memory/desktop_benchmark.html |
| 10:09.34 | Sho_ | I don't have any hard data, but my impression is that Gnome is pretty much only really popular in the USA, and KDE is more popular everywhere else, so sum total, there are probably more KDE users |
| 10:09.48 | apokryphos | ohh, how many people use it |
| 10:10.07 | orville | automatic text completion seems broken in 3.5.7. awesome. |
| 10:10.25 | Sho_ | orville: "Automatic text completion"? |
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| 10:10.32 | benJIman | I've not seen any figures recently |
| 10:10.51 | apokryphos | GNOME usage is greatly increasing these days (because of Ubuntu), but i.e. the LinuxQuestions annual polls still shows KDE as doubling GNOME users |
| 10:10.53 | benJIman | In the last 2 years most of the major distributions have moved from kde to gnome as default so it wouldn't surprise me if gnome now had more users. |
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| 10:11.33 | apokryphos | openSUSE remains the distro with the largest KDE percentage among the big ones, I believe |
| 10:11.57 | apokryphos | Mandriva's GNOME users have increased to the point where they're around 50-50 these days I think |
| 10:11.59 | orville | Sho_: yup. |
| 10:12.13 | scx | However, the sample is too small to have accurate stats |
| 10:12.20 | Sho_ | orville: Mind telling me where this fabled automatic text completion used to be? ;-) |
| 10:12.28 | orville | Sho_: like in the Run... dialog. right click there and there's a text completion drop-down box |
| 10:12.30 | apokryphos | scx: which sample do you mean? |
| 10:12.42 | Sho_ | orville: ah |
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| 10:12.59 | Sho_ | orville: Hm seems to work here in the minicli, on 3.5.7 |
| 10:13.04 | Jucato | orville: Run Command's text completion is only for the history |
| 10:13.12 | scx | apokryphos: In stats language, |
| 10:13.18 | Jucato | it doesn't work the same way as GNOME's or Tab completion in the shell |
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| 10:13.27 | orville | Jucato: well that's useless to me. |
| 10:13.35 | orville | suckage |
| 10:13.51 | scx | apokryphos: Basically I mean that most Linux users have not been enquired about what they use |
| 10:13.51 | Sho_ | http://www.eikehein.com/completion.png |
| 10:13.51 | orville | Jucato: thanks for letting me know though. |
| 10:14.02 | Jucato | orville: might want to wait for KDE 4. |
| 10:14.10 | orville | I just _finally_ switched over to kde on my ubuntu box |
| 10:14.14 | benJIman | Jucato: how does gnome's work? |
| 10:14.22 | Jucato | Sho_: it works, but not in the way he expected it to |
| 10:14.25 | benJIman | orville: you can right click and set the autocompletion mode |
| 10:14.45 | orville | and I remember that text completion worked on my desktop. though that the upgrade to 3.5.7 broke completion |
| 10:14.51 | Jucato | benJIman: you type in a command, it autocompletes that command |
| 10:15.00 | orville | benJIman: see jucato's comment above |
| 10:15.03 | benJIman | orville: kickoff searches history + filesystem + desktop entries + documents and more |
| 10:15.06 | Jucato | benJIman: currently, KDE's will only autocomplete a previously entered command |
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| 10:15.19 | Jucato | presuming he's on opensuse |
| 10:15.27 | orville | Run dialog not kickoff |
| 10:15.30 | scx | as far as it is in the beagle db |
| 10:15.35 | benJIman | You could install it on other distros too. |
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| 10:15.39 | orville | the Alt+F2 box |
| 10:16.03 | apokryphos | yeah, that's a shortcoming of alt+f2, not the input method |
| 10:16.30 | orville | ok. |
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| 10:16.37 | apokryphos | scx: you don't need beagle for kickoff. Beagle's just a plugin for kickoff |
| 10:16.44 | orville | jucato explained this years ago :-) |
| 10:17.03 | scx | apokryphos: But the search function |
| 10:17.22 | apokryphos | scx: the search function does a lot of its work without beagle. See http://en.opensuse.org/Kickoff |
| 10:18.11 | apokryphos | it will still search email, address book, bookmarks in konqueror, executables in PATH, simple sums, etc ;) |
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| 10:18.42 | orville | strigi for the win |
| 10:18.57 | orville | retarded name, but awesome (thus far) app |
| 10:19.22 | orville | or API, or whatever it's being marketted as this week. |
| 10:19.23 | Jucato | strigi means something in some language iirc |
| 10:20.04 | orville | dingleberry means something in some language too. doesn't make it a good name for an app though. |
| 10:20.34 | scx | Jucato: isn't it the name for 'really?' in strog language? |
| 10:20.43 | orville | lol |
| 10:21.02 | Sho_ | orville: It does mean, however, that it might be a perfectly good name for a demographic different from yours |
| 10:21.10 | orville | I thought i killed those bastards back in quake... |
| 10:21.18 | Jucato | orville: it also means that the name is not retarded |
| 10:21.51 | orville | Jucato: nah. it's retarded. to me at least. |
| 10:21.58 | Jucato | using it as a "brand" might be (depending on who you ask), but it doesn't mean the word/name is retarded |
| 10:22.35 | Sho_ | well, that makes you an ignorant fuckup. to me at least. |
| 10:22.49 | lostson | damn |
| 10:23.16 | lostson | wow to wake up and sit down and see that goooood morning |
| 10:23.22 | orville | Takes a brave man to hurl insults over IRC. |
| 10:23.27 | orville | I sir, salute you. |
| 10:23.35 | orville | lol @ lostson |
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| 10:26.03 | straw | calling someone's work (even choice of name) 'retarded' isn't a good way to make friends... |
| 10:26.43 | orville | Good thing I'm not looking to make friends :-) |
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| 10:27.42 | Sho_ | Jucato: Looking it up, the name is based on Latin for "owl", a bird known for particularly good eye-sight |
| 10:27.58 | bluelightning | so, perfectly appropriate, then |
| 10:28.09 | Sho_ | indeed. |
| 10:28.16 | orville | if mildly retarded. |
| 10:28.22 | bluelightning | or not. |
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| 10:28.32 | Jucato | :) |
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| 10:28.42 | bluelightning | legend :) |
| 10:28.48 | Sho_ | once too many |
| 10:29.12 | Jucato | I was about to say that the word "orville" sounds retarded to me as well :) |
| 10:29.46 | straw | Orville Wright wasn't retarded ;) |
| 10:29.50 | bluelightning | perhaps he's an aviation fan or something |
| 10:30.05 | Jucato | btw, maybe they should put that in the Strigi FAQ :) |
| 10:30.32 | Jucato | your vote is our command. we ph34r the boot :) |
| 10:30.41 | Sho_ | Jucato: yeah - I found it in a piece about Strigi included in Dannya's Commit Digest |
| 10:31.03 | bluelightning | the Shoe even |
| 10:31.03 | bluelightning | (sorry) |
| 10:31.03 | Jucato | depends on what he's wearing :) |
| 10:31.13 | Jucato | Sho_: that well hidden? :) |
| 10:31.29 | Jucato | even Kopete has an audio file for pronouncing it (which no one does correctly I think) |
| 10:31.36 | Sho_ | only socks |
| 10:31.38 | Sho_ | :) |
| 10:31.41 | Jucato | lol |
| 10:31.44 | straw | i hope strigi won't behave like other desktop search |
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| 10:32.41 | Jucato | strigi + nepomuk-kde will probably what I'll be looking forward to most of all |
| 10:33.01 | straw | and use cpu cycles in a seemingly erratic fashion |
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| 10:33.45 | straw | only to slink off to a corner as soon as you run top :) |
| 10:34.52 | hein | Jucato: Looks like the combination might deliver on the promises of Tenor after all :) |
| 10:35.11 | Jucato | ah the all but forgotten Tenor :) |
| 10:35.16 | Jucato | is that page still up? |
| 10:35.38 | Sho_ | iirc it was part of the appeal page which now redirects back to www.kde.org |
| 10:35.46 | Sho_ | but the dot article is probably still up |
| 10:36.14 | Jucato | heh it's gone :) |
| 10:36.14 | Sho_ | http://dot.kde.org/1113428593/ |
| 10:36.14 | Jucato | oh well :) |
| 10:36.35 | Jucato | thanks |
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| 10:37.33 | Sho_ | Jucato: Probably would make an interesting item/relic for a "The History of KDE4" article after 4.0 is released |
| 10:37.44 | Jucato | heheh :) |
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| 10:38.07 | PhinnFort | I blasted my desktop and kicker... |
| 10:38.18 | PhinnFort | how do I get them to redraw? |
| 10:39.33 | Jucato | PhinnFort: I only know "dcop kicker kicker restart" to restart kicker |
| 10:39.49 | PhinnFort | thanks |
| 10:40.10 | PhinnFort | now only my desktop is broken;) |
| 10:41.26 | Sho_ | PhinnFort: you could try dcop kdesktop KDesktopIface refresh |
| 10:41.41 | PhinnFort | no go |
| 10:41.50 | PhinnFort | blast alters the x shape of the window |
| 10:41.54 | Jucato | or "dcop kwin KWinInterface refresh" |
| 10:42.27 | Sho_ | ah, I didn't get that blasted referred to a program |
| 10:42.47 | PhinnFort | :P |
| 10:43.05 | Jucato | PhinnFort: did the kwin dcop work? |
| 10:43.14 | PhinnFort | nope |
| 10:43.18 | Jucato | aw too bad |
| 10:43.32 | PhinnFort | doesn't reset the x shape of the window |
| 10:43.35 | Sho_ | well, you could of course just shoot down kdesktop and start a new instance .. |
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| 10:44.58 | PhinnFort | well, that's a bit heavy handed, don't you think?;) |
| 10:45.17 | PhinnFort | it doesn't bother me much, and it'll be gone when I reboot my computer / log in again |
| 10:45.32 | Sho_ | it's also a very reliable method though ;) |
| 10:45.35 | straw | ps ax| grep kdesktop |
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| 10:46.02 | PhinnFort | killall kdesktop && kdesktop& |
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| 10:51.02 | rajkt | any good artcile on KDE4 and what will be new in it? |
| 10:51.48 | Jucato | rajkt: read the series of articles in http://dot.kde.org |
| 10:51.58 | Jucato | the Road to KDE 4 and the Pillars of KDE 4 articles |
| 10:52.07 | nhnFreespirit | rajkt: all "the road to KDE4" articles are excelent |
| 10:52.09 | Sho_ | We need a wiki page somewhere with links to all the Road/Pillars articles ... |
| 10:52.18 | Sho_ | if there isn't one already :) |
| 10:52.22 | PhinnFort | http://www.google.no/search?q=site%3Adot.kde.org+road+to+kde4&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8 |
| 10:52.28 | PhinnFort | :D |
| 10:52.37 | Jucato | Sho_: maybe one day the Dot will have tags.... :) |
| 10:52.52 | PhinnFort | they use that slash thingy, don't they? |
| 10:52.56 | PhinnFort | from slashdot |
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| 10:53.09 | Sho_ | The Dot? No, that's Zope |
| 10:53.13 | PhinnFort | ah, ok |
| 10:53.24 | Jucato | the Dot uses Dope? |
| 10:53.26 | Jucato | er Zope |
| 10:53.30 | PhinnFort | :P |
| 10:53.31 | Jucato | (sorry terrible typo) |
| 10:53.43 | Sho_ | Jucato: AFAIK yes |
| 10:53.54 | Sho_ | rajkt: There are links to a few of the articles mentioned above here: http://wiki.kde.org/tiki-index.php?page=KDE4 |
| 10:54.13 | Jucato | wee someon still uses that wiki :) |
| 10:55.23 | Jucato | better than nothing ;) |
| 10:55.23 | PhinnFort | all too often edit it by accident;) |
| 10:55.42 | Sho_ | meh, Gentoo's kickoff depends on beagle |
| 10:55.58 | Jucato | that ain't a surprise :) |
| 10:56.02 | Jucato | and beagle depends on? |
| 10:56.15 | PhinnFort | Gnome-base? |
| 10:56.19 | PhinnFort | (or something similar) |
| 10:56.21 | PhinnFort | :P |
| 10:56.38 | Sho_ | Jucato: mono, GTK#, ... |
| 10:56.44 | Jucato | ah Sho_ beat me to it :) |
| 10:56.50 | PhinnFort | little nightmare;) |
| 10:57.04 | Jucato | maybe once strigi's stable, kickoff can depend on strigi? |
| 10:57.22 | Jucato | maybe USE="strigi -beagle" emerge kickoff? :) |
| 10:57.32 | PhinnFort | Tasty Menu can use either strigi or beagle, or it's own little built in search |
| 10:57.37 | Sho_ | Jucato: no beagle use flag, but I'll look into adding one |
| 10:58.04 | straw | is tasty menu still gigantic? |
| 10:58.10 | Jucato | Sho_: maybe because there's no alternate to beagle yet for kickoff. I don't think it can use strigi. not sure though |
| 10:58.15 | PhinnFort | straw: you can adjust that |
| 10:58.36 | PhinnFort | straw: I have it at about 70% of my screen, though, so with me it's gigantic |
| 10:58.42 | straw | i'll have to try it again |
| 10:58.49 | PhinnFort | Jucato: Tasty Menu seems to have Strigi support |
| 10:58.53 | Jucato | what's with these gigantic menus? :) |
| 10:59.00 | PhinnFort | Jucato: easy to click on;) |
| 10:59.03 | Sho_ | Jucato: well right now I'd like to test it without pulling in any desktop search engine ;) |
| 10:59.26 | straw | i take it kickof is pretty invasive and can't be released stand-alone? |
| 10:59.26 | Jucato | Sho_: one word: suse :) |
| 10:59.44 | PhinnFort | Novell |
| 10:59.46 | Jucato | straw: it can be. there are packages for other distros floating around |
| 11:00.00 | PhinnFort | I tried to just get the source code for it once, it was a pita;) |
| 11:00.05 | Jucato | Sho_: strange though, the kickoff .deb for Kubuntu doesn't require mono/beagle |
| 11:00.16 | Jucato | PhinnFort: try kde-apps.org? |
| 11:00.17 | PhinnFort | Sho_: could you pull out the link to the source from the ebuild for me? |
| 11:00.30 | PhinnFort | Jucato: the guy on there only had 32-bit debs |
| 11:00.38 | Jucato | ah 64-bit suckers |
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| 11:00.40 | Jucato | er.. users :) |
| 11:00.41 | PhinnFort | :P |
| 11:00.45 | Jucato | sorry :P |
| 11:00.58 | Jucato | and yes, it's time for dinner |
| 11:01.06 | PhinnFort | 2 hours left here... |
| 11:01.10 | Jucato | PhinnFort: I was actually aiming for smileaf. but you took the bullet for him :) |
| 11:01.24 | Jucato | laters |
| 11:01.32 | PhinnFort | well, when someone comes with an insult, I naturally assume... |
| 11:02.03 | PhinnFort | happy eating |
| 11:03.44 | Sho_ | PhinnFort: It's included with the overlay as patch it seems |
| 11:03.51 | PhinnFort | ah, ok |
| 11:05.03 | lostson | ok if i check something out of svn how do i get it to genrate config files and such ? |
| 11:06.05 | Sho_ | lostson: You could adapt the instructions on http://konversation.kde.org/wiki/SVN |
| 11:07.46 | lostson | no makefile.cvs in this though |
| 11:08.21 | Sho_ | lostson: Where 'this' is ..? |
| 11:08.51 | lostson | in my home dir i checkedout uirtk from svn and am trying to set it up |
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| 11:09.37 | Sho_ | lostson: the kdenonbeta module does have Makefile.cvs |
| 11:12.16 | lostson | nope no joy |
| 11:13.11 | lostson | you have to be a dang rocket scientist to get this stuff to work and I am no rocket scientist time for a smoke break |
| 11:14.16 | Sho_ | lostson: Well look at the Konvi instructions, the process is the same for uirtk |
| 11:14.23 | Sho_ | lostson: KDE SVN is organized in modules |
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| 11:15.05 | Sho_ | lostson: You do a non-recursive checkout of the module (in this case, kdenonbeta), then you svn up the uirtk dir in that working copy, then you co the admin dir from the KDE 3.5 branch into the module checkout - the admin dir contains most of the buildsystem magic -, then you make -f Makefile.cvs |
| 11:15.18 | Sho_ | lostson: And from that point on it's the usual ./configure; make; make install |
| 11:15.38 | Sho_ | lostson: you pretty much just need to swap out the names in the Konvi instructions |
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| 11:18.15 | lostson | so i have to check out the whole module |
| 11:18.34 | Sho_ | no |
| 11:18.49 | Sho_ | you do a non-recursive checkout of the module dir, and then you svn up the subdirs you want, in this case uirtk |
| 11:19.00 | Sho_ | as wrote above and as can be seen in the Konvi instructions |
| 11:19.32 | Sho_ | non-recursive means it doesn't checkout the subdirs |
| 11:20.30 | lostson | how do you do non-recursive -N |
| 11:20.59 | Sho_ | yeah, -N |
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| 11:21.50 | lostson | then svn up |
| 11:22.05 | Sho_ | then svn up uirtk |
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| 11:23.44 | shampoonator_ | hi, anyone knows where to find a tutorial/help/man whatever for the regular expression search provided by kile? |
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| 11:24.15 | shampoonator | hi, anyone knows where to find a tutorial/help/man whatever for the regular expression search provided by kile? |
| 11:24.17 | lostson | error |
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| 11:24.32 | Sho_ | shampoonator: http://doc.trolltech.com/3.3/qregexp.html |
| 11:24.35 | shampoonator_ | oO |
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| 11:25.14 | shampoonator_ | ehy did i say that twice |
| 11:25.15 | Sho_ | yeah you did :) |
| 11:25.44 | bergheim | Will there be a commit digest today? |
| 11:25.59 | Sho_ | tsb / bergheim: there should be, yeah .. |
| 11:26.10 | tsb | cool. |
| 11:26.16 | shampoonator_ | thx Sho_ :) |
| 11:26.22 | shampoonator_ | ah |
| 11:26.24 | shampoonator_ | lol |
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| 11:26.43 | shampoonator_ | well seems that Ububu irc is on the freenode server >< |
| 11:27.49 | Sho_ | tsb: probably running a bit late due to the Plasma content that's supposed to be in it ;) |
| 11:28.04 | tsb | Sho_: yeah I figured |
| 11:28.04 | benJIman | I noticed plasma has appeared |
| 11:28.05 | lostson | no configure found |
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| 11:28.25 | Sho_ | benJIman: and it's developing rather quickly even, too |
| 11:29.14 | tsb | can you run kde3 apps fine in kde4? is so, kde4 should be fairly usable once it is stable enough, say first beta or something |
| 11:29.16 | Sho_ | ah, my kickoff is done |
| 11:30.52 | Sho_ | The frameless appearance is somewhat odd. Needs a drop shadow :) |
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| 11:31.16 | tsb | Sho_: trying kde4? |
| 11:31.20 | benJIman | kickoff has a shadow by default |
| 11:31.55 | Sho_ | tsb: No, trying SuSE's "Kickoff" KMenu replacement in Gentoo |
| 11:32.10 | tsb | oh, that thing.. it seemed a bit strange to me |
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| 11:34.08 | padde | hm... can anybody using kde 3.5.7 check what's the WM_CLASS of konsole? (use xprop and click on an open konsole) |
| 11:34.34 | padde | i'm quite sure it was "Konsole" or something like that in kde 3.5.6... now it's "Qt-subapplication" |
| 11:34.50 | tsb | padde: WM_CLASS(STRING) = "Qt-subapplication", "" |
| 11:34.52 | qupada | WM_CLASS(STRING) = "Qt-subapplication", "" |
| 11:35.03 | Sho_ | benJIman: Must be missing a patch somewhere, perhaps ... http://www.eikehein.com/kickoff.png |
| 11:35.07 | padde | weird... |
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| 11:35.22 | padde | that's why my beryl doesn't apply transparency settings to konsoles anymore |
| 11:35.52 | benJIman | Sho_: are you using svn from kde, or gentoo version? |
| 11:35.54 | padde | anybody still using kde 3.5.6? just to be sure this is new ;) |
| 11:36.03 | benJIman | perhaps they removed it, the software shadow annoys people using compiz/beryl |
| 11:36.28 | Sho_ | benJIman: I'm using Gentoo's overlay, which contains a (probably modified) copy of Kickoff as patches |
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| 11:36.57 | benJIman | If they made the shadow configurable I hope they submitted the patch upstream. |
| 11:37.20 | Sho_ | Gentoo tends to submit their stuff upstream, unlike certain other distributions |
| 11:37.32 | Sho_ | (Although kickoff is in an unofficial overlay, not the main package tree) |
| 11:37.47 | benJIman | https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=238387 |
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| 11:39.03 | Sho_ | benJIman: Should just tie in with the existing KControl option for menu drop shadows |
| 11:39.18 | benJIman | yeah |
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| 11:43.02 | padde | he... seems like this bug http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=83974 (improper value of WM_CLASS property for konsole) woke up from the dead... |
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| 11:45.16 | Sho_ | padde: Probably due to Robert removing the #ifdef 0's around the COMPOSITE code and turning it into a cli argument |
| 11:45.21 | lostson | well that did not work |
| 11:45.39 | Sho_ | padde: Waldo objected on kde-commits, iirc ... but Robert is the new maintainer, so ;) |
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| 11:46.13 | Sho_ | padde: Time to reopen :) |
| 11:46.19 | padde | Sho_: i see.... i added a comment to the bug report... let's see if anybody is interested ;) |
| 11:46.26 | padde | Sho_: if you can do that, please do so ;) |
| 11:47.49 | Sho_ | padde: done |
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| 11:48.02 | padde | Sho_: thanks :) |
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| 11:52.06 | lucky_lucas | hi does anyone knows the status of developpement of konversation for kde 4 ? |
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| 11:52.49 | Sho_ | lucky_lucas: Not yet started outside of prototyping, pending the release of 1.1 for KDE 3 |
| 11:53.21 | lucky_lucas | ok and do you know if there is a lib for osd in kde4 ? |
| 11:53.41 | Sho_ | lucky_lucas: The plan was to make KNotify extensible and put an OSD there, but I don't know if that materialized |
| 11:54.15 | lucky_lucas | ok thank you I will start to see that, I would like to add such a functionnality to kopete |
| 11:54.50 | sebbar | hi, how do you access the history of visited web pages in konqueror? |
| 11:54.51 | Sho_ | lucky_lucas: Well the point in adding it to KNotify is to make it available to all apps :) |
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| 11:55.10 | Sho_ | sebbar: Go -> History |
| 11:55.28 | lucky_lucas | yes, I understood it's a nice to have it |
| 11:55.55 | sebbar | Sho_ did they remove it in kubuntu? |
| 11:56.23 | sebbar | hmm I'll ask in kubuntu |
| 11:56.23 | Sho_ | sebbar: Kubuntu removed the "Go" and "Window" menus in Konqueror, yes |
| 11:56.26 | padde | sebbar: press f9, the sidebar should open |
| 11:56.45 | sebbar | ah got it, tnx |
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| 11:59.05 | smileaf | Jucato: sure, shoot me when I'm sleeping. |
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| 12:08.29 | padde | another thing... my "F12" key which I bound to KMenuEdit doesn't work anymore since kde 3.5.7... i removed the applink and created a new one... but F12 "doesn't work" |
| 12:08.42 | padde | does anybody have similar problems? |
| 12:08.56 | Jucato | smileaf: er... when else could I shoot you? :) |
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| 12:13.09 | padde | hm... i removed some lines in khotkeysrc and now it works again... strange things happen here |
| 12:14.21 | annma | hi Jucato :)) |
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| 12:59.48 | omar | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:59.48 | omar | [18:58] <omar> when I reproduce a mp3 or a divx it goes to crash kde |
| 12:59.48 | omar | [18:58] <omar> my distro is sabayon 3.4 loop2 |
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| 13:24.45 | SamuraiDio | hi |
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| 13:25.25 | SamuraiDio | im trying to use kopete, but i have a problem, every time i start a new conversation my chat window jumps to my 1st desktop |
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| 13:29.46 | hacosta_ | right click the title bar and check if you have settings for it |
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| 13:31.58 | SamuraiDio | hacosta_, no, i dont have settings saving the desktop the window appears |
| 13:32.04 | SamuraiDio | and im not on kde |
| 13:32.21 | SamuraiDio | can i change the bubble location? |
| 13:32.59 | hacosta_ | don't think so.. i don't know. but about the chat window relocating itself.. why don't you try in #yourwm |
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| 13:33.26 | rushfan | Is there anyway to set KDE to sync the clock w/ the public time server at regular intervals? |
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| 13:36.03 | EvilGuru | rushfan: ntpd is the correct daemon for it |
| 13:36.04 | lucky_lucas | is it normal that okular doesn't handle pdf files yet ? |
| 13:36.56 | Jucato | lucky_lucas: er? it's supposed to |
| 13:37.13 | Jucato | it's the successor/evolution of KPDF |
| 13:37.48 | lucky_lucas | Jucato: I tried several timers, it opens my djvu but the filechooser doesn't display pdf files |
| 13:38.25 | Jucato | lucky_lucas: I think there's an #okular channel, or try asking pinotree or tsdegeos (when they're around) |
| 13:39.24 | lucky_lucas | I already tried and it's quite empty |
| 13:39.25 | Jucato | #kpdf then? |
| 13:39.25 | Jucato | yay for net split |
| 13:39.30 | lucky_lucas | ha maybe |
| 13:39.40 | lucky_lucas | i'm in |
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| 13:41.11 | lucky_lucas | Jucato: do you experience the same problem or .. ? |
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| 13:41.32 | Jucato | lucky_lucas: nope. just basing it from pinotree's previous statements |
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| 13:41.45 | Jucato | lucky_lucas: you might get better feedback from #kde4-devel or #kde-devel though |
| 13:41.53 | Jucato | not much KDE 4 users here yet :) |
| 13:42.00 | bluesceada | umm lost connection |
| 13:42.02 | bluesceada | did anyone receive what i wrote? |
| 13:42.03 | lucky_lucas | hehe, |
| 13:42.04 | bluesceada | hmm here again: |
| 13:42.10 | bluesceada | i have amarok running here(=laptop) and on my desktop computer |
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| 13:42.21 | omar | when play a video o mp3 kde go in crash |
| 13:42.21 | bluesceada | or just on my desktop computer |
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| 13:42.38 | bluesceada | then i want to be able to have my desktop computer playing the sound, having all the files |
| 13:42.39 | YamiTenshi | hey, I'm using KDE 3.5.6 on ubuntu 7.04, and I was wondering if there's a way to make beryl-manager start when i start KDE |
| 13:42.40 | omar | why??? |
| 13:42.42 | bluesceada | and having the gui running |
| 13:42.49 | bluesceada | so i want to be able to have the same amarok database |
| 13:43.10 | YamiTenshi | omar: have you tried different media players? |
| 13:43.15 | bluesceada | the best way would be if i could just connect to my desktop from my laptop, and just having the amarok gui displayed here |
| 13:43.25 | bluesceada | the problem is with vpn, i can just have the whole desktop |
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| 13:43.31 | Sho_ | YamiTenshi: Export the KDEVM environment variable to contain the path to beryl manager |
| 13:43.32 | omar | yes crash with amarok,kaffeine,noatung |
| 13:43.34 | Sho_ | *KDEWM |
| 13:43.41 | bluesceada | anyone? |
| 13:43.49 | Sho_ | Damn all this virtualization craze, my muscle memory is tuned to VM |
| 13:43.50 | Sho_ | :) |
| 13:43.55 | YamiTenshi | Sho_: this may sound really noobish... but how do I do that? ^^;; |
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| 13:44.19 | omar | any suggestion |
| 13:44.28 | Sho_ | YamiTenshi: Hm it's probably best if you look at some distro-specific Beryl guide for that |
| 13:44.32 | Jucato | YamiTenshi: there's a guide for doing that in #ubuntu-effects |
| 13:44.33 | Sho_ | YamiTenshi: #beryl should have links I assume |
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| 13:44.46 | YamiTenshi | ok thanks :) |
| 13:44.47 | omar | my distro is sabayon 3.4 loop2 |
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| 13:45.04 | YamiTenshi | omar: reinstall? make sure everything is the highest possible version? |
| 13:45.22 | omar | reinstall???????????? |
| 13:45.46 | Jucato | omar: or better try asking in #sabayon |
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| 13:45.50 | omar | i've install this distro 3 hours ago |
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| 13:46.02 | omar | sabayon chanel is out |
| 13:46.05 | PhilRod | omar: do non-kde apps crash too? |
| 13:46.28 | omar | krash only if paly video o mp3 |
| 13:46.28 | YamiTenshi | omar: not the distro, just the things that may be related to the crash |
| 13:46.41 | YamiTenshi | you sure you have the right codecs? |
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| 13:46.58 | omar | yes the codec is ok |
| 13:47.12 | PhilRod | omar: yes, do non-kde apps (eg, mpg123, xine, mplayer) crash if you play mp3 or video |
| 13:47.13 | PhilRod | ? |
| 13:47.37 | omar | amarok |
| 13:47.42 | omar | is kde app??? |
| 13:47.45 | PhilRod | yes |
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| 13:48.35 | omar | crash onli app video |
| 13:48.39 | omar | only |
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| 13:49.04 | PhilRod | omar: play a video in xine. Does it crash? |
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| 13:49.21 | omar | moment please |
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| 13:50.15 | omar | yes non response |
| 13:50.23 | omar | is broken |
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| 13:50.49 | PhilRod | ok, your problem is with your distro and not kde then |
| 13:50.54 | PhilRod | you'll have to ask in #yourdistro |
| 13:51.01 | omar | ok tanks |
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| 13:52.01 | omar | in sabayon chat is already kill by microsoft??? |
| 13:52.18 | Jucato | huh? |
| 13:53.03 | omar | i'm italian user distro linux and is 15.52 o clock |
| 13:53.46 | YamiTenshi | but what does linux have to do with microsoft, besides being way better than any microsoft product ever created? |
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| 13:54.36 | MinceR | microsoft kills babies |
| 13:55.03 | MinceR | and eats them |
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| 13:55.12 | omar | no are the stalin distro look |
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| 13:55.40 | MinceR | please rephrase. |
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| 13:56.10 | omar | my inlish is broken,scuse me |
| 13:56.15 | omar | inglish |
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| 14:08.18 | hatta | how can I make konquerer open all new windows in tabs unless explicitly directed to open in a new dinwos? |
| 14:09.23 | Chani | hatta: I don't remember right now but I know I did it |
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| 14:09.32 | hatta | oic, it's in "web behavior" |
| 14:09.34 | hatta | not "behavior" |
| 14:10.07 | hatta | how are kde's options stored? |
| 14:10.12 | Chani | did you find the options both for programs opening links and for websites trying to open stuff in new windows? |
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| 14:10.31 | hatta | is it possible to edit them with a text editor? |
| 14:10.38 | Chani | they're stored in text files somewhere within ~/.kde/share/ |
| 14:10.42 | hatta | cool |
| 14:10.53 | hatta | easier to grep through a bunch of dotfiles than search through a bunch of menus |
| 14:11.05 | MinceR | they aren't dotfiles :> |
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| 14:14.04 | hatta | so when I installed kde, it had me choose between "kde style" "unix style" "windows style" etc, but it wouldn't let me pick windowshading and double clicking at the same time |
| 14:14.11 | hatta | can I do that? |
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| 14:16.04 | smileaf | hatta: those are just quick picks to quickly setup an environment, go into kcontrol -> desktop -> window behaviour |
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| 14:18.20 | hatta | hm, I'm there but I don't see where to set up double click select |
| 14:20.36 | smileaf | hatta: titlebar actions |
| 14:20.57 | smileaf | set your titlebar double-click to: shade |
| 14:20.59 | hatta | no that's window shading I found that |
| 14:21.07 | hatta | I want double-click select files |
| 14:21.11 | hatta | so I don't click a file and have it open |
| 14:21.16 | hatta | unless I double click |
| 14:21.21 | smileaf | Oh thought thats what you were talking about. |
| 14:21.42 | hatta | heh, gets confusing sometimes |
| 14:21.46 | smileaf | Thats under Peripherals -> mouse |
| 14:22.07 | Chani | o.0 |
| 14:22.17 | Chani | kcontrol really is nutty |
| 14:22.32 | hatta | it would be nice if the set up wizard gave a drop down menu so you could select things independent of "kde style" etc |
| 14:22.54 | smileaf | as I said thats just a quick pick.. there isn't a wizard in kde4 |
| 14:23.25 | hatta | good :_ |
| 14:23.27 | hatta | :) |
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| 14:44.07 | p_masho | hi there.. relavively new to KDE. I've got 2 "wordspaces/descktop" and used to have a "worskspace/desktop" switcher on the task bar. I have succesfully removed that widget and dont know how to restore it. Can anyone help.. |
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| 14:46.03 | p_masho | ahhh found it ;-) |
| 14:46.52 | TheSimkin | sweet |
| 14:46.59 | TheSimkin | you're learning at the speed of sound! |
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| 14:49.23 | p_masho | starting to really enjoy.. KDE.. love the autocpmleting that happend with konquerer.. and saving files etc.. its real neat |
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| 14:56.38 | lack | Is there some way to just run the panel by itself? (from within a different WM?) |
| 14:56.55 | thiago | run: kicker |
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| 14:58.44 | sanjin | hi |
| 14:59.21 | sanjin | i emerged only the very small version of kde, can you guys recommend me a good featured unzipping/unraring program to handle archives ? |
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| 15:00.35 | wolsni | sanjin: ark, it's part of kdeutils |
| 15:01.06 | sanjin | thanks |
| 15:01.12 | sanjin | so there is no good alternative? |
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| 15:02.27 | wolsni | sanjin: there used to be a tool called karchiver, i think |
| 15:02.36 | wolsni | your distro might still have it packaged |
| 15:02.41 | wolsni | what's wrong with ark? |
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| 15:03.32 | sanjin | i only thought there might be something better than ark |
| 15:03.34 | sanjin | but ok ^ |
| 15:03.39 | sanjin | ill take ark |
| 15:04.03 | wolsni | i suppose you could use krusader too |
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| 15:04.25 | wolsni | i know that can transparently deal with .zip archives, i think other types as well |
| 15:04.43 | thiago | Konqueror can deal with zip and tars directly too |
| 15:05.10 | wolsni | not rar's though |
| 15:05.21 | thiago | no |
| 15:05.30 | sanjin | so i need ark though |
| 15:05.32 | thiago | you can ask rar's author to release the format to the public |
| 15:05.37 | thiago | that way, we can implement a filter |
| 15:05.44 | thiago | without that, we have to rely on the non-free "unrar" tool |
| 15:06.23 | sanjin | konqueror is not able to use unrar? |
| 15:06.34 | thiago | sanjin: ark is able to use unrar |
| 15:06.42 | thiago | sanjin: kdelibs (KFilterDevice) isn't |
| 15:06.49 | sanjin | okay, thanks |
| 15:06.53 | thiago | we will not implement unrar support in kdelibs |
| 15:06.58 | sanjin | and ark is installed ;) |
| 15:07.05 | sanjin | bye bye |
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| 15:11.39 | hatta | so, I increased my screen resolution and konsole got bigger |
| 15:11.51 | hatta | the whole point of increasing my screen resolution was so I could fit more consoles on my screen |
| 15:11.59 | hatta | how can I make it not do that? |
| 15:12.27 | wolsni | hatta: decrease your font size in konsole |
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| 15:13.15 | hatta | that just gives me more colums and rows in the same window |
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| 15:14.18 | wolsni | then resize the window |
| 15:16.10 | hatta | still, that only affects the current window |
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| 15:17.11 | hatta | how can I make changes to the font/window size in konsole permanent |
| 15:17.12 | wolsni | so right click on the window and choose "save as default" |
| 15:19.22 | hatta | ok thanks |
| 15:19.48 | Blissex | hatta: or save it as a custom profile. |
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| 15:27.42 | hatta | ok hm, how do I change the font size on the menu bar and tabs? |
| 15:27.53 | thiago | in the KDE Control Center |
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| 15:32.03 | hatta | I'd like the fonts to be the same as on the k menu/taskbar, I don't see an entry for the kmenu under Control Center -> Appearances -> Fonts |
| 15:32.08 | hatta | so I don't know what to change everything to |
| 15:33.04 | thiago | KMenu uses the system fonts |
| 15:34.28 | Jucato | hatta: KControl -> Appearance & Themes -> Fonts. I believe K Menu follows the Menu fonts |
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| 15:36.13 | hatta | but they're all the same |
| 15:36.18 | hatta | sans serif 10 |
| 15:36.30 | hatta | except for fixed width |
| 15:36.47 | Jucato | those are the defaults, yes |
| 15:37.07 | hatta | then why do I have different fonts in kmenu and menu bars/tabs? |
| 15:37.26 | Jucato | could you show a screenshot? |
| 15:37.30 | hatta | yes |
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| 15:39.57 | Blissex | hatta: perhaps restart? |
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| 15:40.12 | hatta | http://img217.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fontmismatch1xs7.png |
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| 15:41.31 | Jucato | hm.. indeed strange |
| 15:42.06 | Jucato | not really sure, some apps may require a restart for changes to take effect. but usually font changes are immediate |
| 15:42.49 | hatta | hm, I tried restarting and it reset my screen resolution |
| 15:43.07 | Jucato | might be caused by an X problem? |
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| 15:44.28 | hatta | would it matter that I'm setting the resolution with the nvidia tool instead of right clicking on the desktop? |
| 15:44.42 | saeed | hi guys |
| 15:45.04 | saeed | anyone knows where does KDE keep the backgrounds (wallpapers)? |
| 15:45.17 | wolsni | hatta: who said you can change the resolution by right clicking on the desktop? |
| 15:45.45 | saeed | I am trying to install a new wallpaper, b ut I have no idea where the folder for wallpapers is. |
| 15:45.51 | wolsni | saeed: on my FC6 system they're in /usr/share/wallpapers |
| 15:45.58 | Jucato | wolsni: right-click -> Configure Desktop -> Display (on some KDE's) |
| 15:45.59 | saeed | got it |
| 15:46.04 | wolsni | saeed: but you don't need to "install" a wallpaper |
| 15:46.05 | saeed | thanks |
| 15:46.12 | hatta | ahh, it does matter |
| 15:46.21 | saeed | I know I don't need to install it |
| 15:46.28 | hatta | wolsni, I can change resolution by clicking on the desktop |
| 15:46.30 | wolsni | saeed: you can just navigate to where the folder is from the file chooser in the wallpaper config |
| 15:46.33 | Jucato | saeed: er.. right-click on the desktop -> COnfigure Desktop -> Background |
| 15:46.37 | saeed | but I want to add it to the list pf available wallpapers |
| 15:46.51 | Jucato | permanently? and for all users? |
| 15:47.10 | saeed | unfortunately, my distro does not have the option of adding wallpapers from the control center |
| 15:47.12 | thiago | $KDEDIR/share/wallpapers |
| 15:47.19 | Jucato | if you want it just for your user, you can put it in ~/.kde/share/wallpapers |
| 15:47.19 | hatta | Jucato, I figured it out, I had failed to save my settings to xorg.conf with the nvidia-settings utility, that confused the fonts |
| 15:47.20 | saeed | got it guys |
| 15:47.26 | hatta | some of them figured it out, some didn't |
| 15:47.32 | hatta | thanks |
| 15:47.57 | Jucato | saeed: er? KControl -> Appearance & Themes -> Background. that's common in all KDE, no matter the distro |
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| 15:52.20 | hatta | how do I reattach a konsole tab that I detached? |
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| 15:53.07 | wolsni | hatta: i'm not sure you can |
| 15:53.21 | hatta | o_O |
| 15:53.47 | Jucato | not possible afaik |
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| 15:54.00 | hatta | guess I'll just keep using screen |
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| 16:36.26 | HanzZ | hi.. is here some KDE app for recording sound from mic |
| 16:36.27 | HanzZ | ? |
| 16:37.41 | fred87 | krec |
| 16:38.15 | HanzZ | thx |
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| 16:59.57 | KotBehemot | hello |
| 17:00.15 | KotBehemot | i have a problem with kioslaves |
| 17:00.52 | KotBehemot | actually i have upgraded my kde from 3.5.6 into 3.5.7 and my floppy isn' visable by deviace manager |
| 17:01.58 | Shaman | have you restarted your kde session? |
| 17:03.06 | KotBehemot | Shaman: yes |
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| 17:03.45 | KotBehemot | Shaman: first i had problem because my hal/dbus wasn' working and than i had recompiled dbus |
| 17:03.59 | KotBehemot | now putting into usb my pendrive works and cd also |
| 17:04.02 | KotBehemot | but floppy isn't |
| 17:04.09 | heatheringlis | hey everyone, i have just installed kubuntu feisty and i have come across this kde bug, does anyone know how to fix it? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22920/ |
| 17:04.14 | Shaman | hrm |
| 17:05.14 | pinotree | heatheringlis: that's not a kde bug |
| 17:05.23 | pinotree | that's a misuse on your side |
| 17:05.32 | PhilRod | heatheringlis: use kdesu |
| 17:05.43 | pinotree | do *not* use sudo for launching graphics applications |
| 17:05.51 | heatheringlis | oh ok |
| 17:05.58 | KotBehemot | so anybody? |
| 17:06.01 | heatheringlis | so if i say kdesu konqueror or kdesu kate |
| 17:06.05 | heatheringlis | that will work? |
| 17:06.14 | pinotree | of course |
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| 17:07.38 | heatheringlis | awesome |
| 17:07.40 | heatheringlis | thanks guys |
| 17:07.43 | heatheringlis | i did not know that! |
| 17:07.53 | heatheringlis | i have been using sudo to do that since forever and it normally has worked!? |
| 17:08.00 | pinotree | pure lucky |
| 17:08.11 | pinotree | sudo is designed for command line applications only |
| 17:08.26 | pinotree | it has no concepts of the X stuff needed for graphical apps |
| 17:08.38 | heatheringlis | immense |
| 17:08.41 | heatheringlis | thanks loads! |
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| 17:09.05 | heatheringlis | you learn something every day with linux :) |
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| 17:13.03 | troy | she could also have used ALT-F2 and run as different user... |
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| 17:37.11 | ezech | hi, I have some problem, I had kde crash lately and since then I cant start kde |
| 17:37.48 | ezech | x.org starts then all I can see is white-black window with "can't start kdeinit, check your install" |
| 17:38.30 | PhilRod | ezech: try with a newly created user. Tell us if it works there |
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| 17:45.25 | ezech | with newly created user I got black screen |
| 17:45.56 | PhilRod | sounds like something is seriously borked. I'd suggest considering reinstalling KDE |
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| 17:51.03 | ezech | thanks |
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| 17:57.52 | damada | good evening! what would be the easiest way to synchronize the korganizer with another account on another machine? |
| 17:58.00 | damada | could that be done with LDAP or so? |
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| 18:01.02 | troy | damada: might be a good idea to ask in #kontact, as most of the pim gurus live in there :) |
| 18:01.13 | damada | troy thank you |
| 18:01.17 | damada | I will do that |
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| 18:01.36 | damada | didn't know there was a dedicated channel for that, troy |
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| 18:01.58 | troy | damada: there are dedicated channels for just about everything KDE... I'm in like 9 of them right now :) |
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| 18:02.14 | Alethes | troy: I think you should write your next article about me. "Alethes is the most amazing thing that ever happened to KDE" |
| 18:02.15 | Alethes | :D |
| 18:02.16 | damada | good to know, troy! |
| 18:02.16 | troy | damada: this channel is always the best place to ask first though, since people here tend to know where to send you :) |
| 18:02.17 | Alethes | ok, I'm kidding |
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| 18:03.21 | troy | Alethes: you know, I'm actually partially through planning a new series, called the "KDE Golden Gear" - which is basically an award that goes out to the unsung heroes of KDE... the ones that answer user questions on irc and mailing lists, host web forums, plan events, and so forth... |
| 18:03.36 | Alethes | cool |
| 18:03.43 | Alethes | :D |
| 18:03.45 | Alethes | ok, not really |
| 18:04.08 | troy | Alethes: I'm not sure if you qualify then :) but really, the people on IRC that have nothing better to do than help people out will get some recognition this way :) |
| 18:04.15 | Alethes | good deal |
| 18:04.53 | troy | I even had the artists create a wicked golden gear trophy for me -- it's pretty slick :) |
| 18:04.58 | Alethes | hehe cool |
| 18:05.14 | troy | albeit, it's only SVG and not a piece of gold :P |
| 18:05.18 | Alethes | hehe |
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| 18:05.35 | Alethes | my biggest contributions to kde are bugging aaron with ideas and creating color schemes |
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| 18:05.56 | Alethes | and "go to your #distro channel, you idiot" |
| 18:05.58 | Alethes | ok, not really |
| 18:06.18 | troy | Alethes: you know, the ideas really do help a lot - ereslibre, for example, implemented a number of things for KDE 4 based on mockups he found on kde-look.org |
| 18:06.28 | Alethes | cool |
| 18:06.43 | Alethes | I suggested a breadcrumb feature to aaron, but they implemented it differently |
| 18:06.52 | Alethes | the way I suggested it was to make the actual path into links |
| 18:06.56 | Alethes | so it'd be the same url bar |
| 18:07.48 | troy | Alethes: I think you'll find that many people are going to be turning the breadcrumb off anyway... |
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| 18:07.55 | Alethes | not I |
| 18:08.00 | Alethes | I love it |
| 18:08.07 | Alethes | I'm thankful for dolphin |
| 18:08.19 | Alethes | 'cause I dislike using the same app as a browser and file manager |
| 18:08.37 | troy | Alethes: oh, I love dolphin - I just hate the breadcrumb :) |
| 18:08.59 | troy | thankfully, it's an option that is easily changed :) |
| 18:09.17 | Alethes | well, consider that I'm a long time gnome user that switched |
| 18:09.18 | Alethes | ;) |
| 18:09.25 | troy | okay :) |
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| 18:11.46 | holycow | hey guys what is the word processor for kde called again? |
| 18:11.52 | MinceR | kword |
| 18:11.53 | pinotree | kword? |
| 18:12.12 | PhilRod | kword! |
| 18:12.17 | holycow | danke |
| 18:12.37 | MinceR | i clicked the up button on the statusbar of kmail. now it pops up a separate progress bar for everything it's doing. how can i return it to its previous state? |
| 18:12.47 | troy | holycow: that's the KDE one anyway, there are a number of other word processors that various distros have installed, so you might be missing it |
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| 18:13.12 | marko | is there kde software for viewing webcam |
| 18:13.14 | pinotree | MinceR: be fast and click that button again when a new job is started |
| 18:13.22 | marko | something like camorama |
| 18:13.28 | MinceR | lol |
| 18:13.31 | holycow | i know that in kwrite i could import pdf is that correct? |
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| 18:13.49 | MinceR | the button doesn't appear at all |
| 18:13.52 | troy | marko: I'd suggest searching kde-apps.org if no one knows... |
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| 18:14.10 | troy | marko: I think kopete has some limited video conferencing support though... |
| 18:14.15 | MinceR | there are red X buttons but i think those are for aborting the operation in progress |
| 18:14.18 | mlankhorst | wow, katapult is NICE :) |
| 18:14.35 | MinceR | too bad katapult can't use true transparency |
| 18:15.04 | Tm_T | Kopete supports webcam in sn and yahoo protocols but no audio (except soe experimental stuff with jabber) |
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| 18:15.23 | Tm_T | interesting, some letters disappear |
| 18:15.54 | troy | the 'm', in particular -- sticky keyboard? |
| 18:16.11 | Tm_T | might be |
| 18:16.26 | Tm_T | or I'm just clumsy as usual |
| 18:16.45 | marko | camorama all the time crashes |
| 18:16.58 | Tm_T | pinotree: comes with age, you know |
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| 18:17.13 | pinotree | *out |
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| 18:18.00 | Tm_T | pinotree: you're sure your head can handle that sunlight out there? |
| 18:19.22 | Tm_T | well you said you take your horns out, so I assume that means out there where sun is shining ;) |
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| 18:19.56 | MinceR | Tm_T: could be a problem with your keyboard |
| 18:20.06 | Lacrymology | uhm, this is a stupid question, but.. how do I install a theme? |
| 18:20.13 | MinceR | mine is prone to not recognizing some of the keys some of the time |
| 18:20.16 | Tm_T | I'm quite sure it's just me being sticky |
| 18:20.36 | Lacrymology | I have some downloaded from kde.themes.com or .org or something, and now I dont know what to do with them =/ |
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| 18:53.05 | _uludag | selam |
| 18:53.10 | _uludag | herkese |
| 18:53.15 | _uludag | hayat nasıl |
| 18:53.44 | MinceR | fgsfds |
| 18:53.54 | _uludag | www.silkroadonline.com |
| 18:54.04 | MinceR | no spam kthx |
| 18:54.05 | _uludag | sitey gir hayatını yaşa |
| 18:54.20 | *** mode/#kde [+o annma] by ChanServ |
| 18:54.32 | MinceR | s/kthx/kthxbye/ |
| 18:54.38 | _uludag | www.silkroadonline.neet |
| 18:54.48 | MinceR | that's a new TLD |
| 18:54.51 | _uludag | www.silkroadonline.net |
| 18:54.55 | *** mode/#kde [+b *!n=uludag@*.234.52.248] by annma |
| 18:55.01 | MinceR | make up your mind already :> |
| 18:55.05 | *** kick/#kde [_uludag!n=annma@kde/developer/annma] by annma (User terminated!) |
| 18:56.11 | AnMaster | huh? I got an /msg from uludag just now |
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| 18:56.42 | AnMaster | annma, ^ |
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| 18:57.16 | annma | AnMaster: so? |
| 18:57.23 | annma | he spammed |
| 18:57.24 | AnMaster | annma, he is left in here |
| 18:57.26 | AnMaster | yep |
| 18:57.31 | AnMaster | he spammed me in /msg too |
| 18:57.37 | annma | ah |
| 18:57.39 | AnMaster | * uludag (n=uludag@88.234.52.248) has joined #kde * _uludag (n=uludag@88.234.52.248) has joined #kde |
| 18:57.45 | annma | no need to spam more |
| 18:57.47 | AnMaster | there were 2 of him/her/it |
| 18:57.50 | annma | tell me what to do |
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| 18:58.01 | AnMaster | just wanted to point out that you missed one ;) |
| 18:58.31 | *** mode/#kde [+b uludag!*@*] by annma |
| 18:58.31 | *** kick/#kde [uludag!n=annma@kde/developer/annma] by annma (User terminated!) |
| 18:59.42 | AnMaster | thanks |
| 18:59.43 | annma | just tell me nextime that tehre's one more here |
| 18:59.43 | AnMaster | uh, wasn't that what I did? |
| 18:59.45 | annma | well more explicitly |
| 19:00.03 | AnMaster | what, fool language? no thanks ;) |
| 19:00.07 | AnMaster | bbl |
| 19:00.13 | troy | hahaha |
| 19:00.18 | annma | I'm rebuilding kde4 and it's not going easy |
| 19:01.08 | troy | annma: I rebuilt yesterday alright - had to make sure that STRIGI_HOME is set though... |
| 19:01.17 | annma | troy: today is Monday |
| 19:01.30 | troy | yeah - I guess it's a good thing I did it yesterday then :) |
| 19:01.53 | AnMaster | uh, how long does it take to compile kde4? |
| 19:02.11 | straw | ages |
| 19:02.12 | annma | troy: yes I have to do lots of make clean, I expected it though |
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| 19:02.19 | annma | straw: no, no |
| 19:02.20 | troy | AnMaster: takes about 90 minutes to get a usable system here, assuming I don't need to recompile qt... |
| 19:02.25 | AnMaster | btw, I hope when kde4 is released that I will be able to make it look like kde2, I run kde 3.5 now, with theme and such set to look like kde2 |
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| 19:02.53 | annma | AnMaster: hmmm not sure as the desktop is changing |
| 19:02.59 | troy | AnMaster: the widget styles and window decorations might need to be ported, so as long as someone does that... |
| 19:03.05 | straw | annma: really? qt/kde 3.x.x always seemed to take hours |
| 19:03.06 | AnMaster | if not I will do like I did when thunderbird 2.0 looked like crap (I did like the look of 1.5), change software, or not update |
| 19:03.15 | annma | straw: CPU? RAM? |
| 19:03.38 | troy | kde4 does compile faster than 3.x did... |
| 19:03.39 | annma | qt4:kde4 is faster to compile |
| 19:03.41 | straw | even with a reasonable box and deps met |
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| 19:03.49 | AnMaster | troy, if that isn't done I will just look for another DE (gnome isn't good, so well will have to try the odd small ones) |
| 19:03.51 | AnMaster | :/ |
| 19:03.54 | straw | cool :) |
| 19:04.07 | annma | are there any other DE or just WM? |
| 19:04.11 | troy | AnMaster: it's not too hard to do - just time consuming |
| 19:04.17 | AnMaster | probably just WMs |
| 19:04.23 | AnMaster | troy, and I don't know how |
| 19:04.33 | AnMaster | so I expect the developer will make sure it works |
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| 19:04.56 | troy | AnMaster: of course, kicker/kdesktop will be totally gone, so those parts will not be easy to make look like 2.x |
| 19:05.09 | AnMaster | http://gentoo-wiki.com/images/3/39/AnMaster_KDE.20070213.png <-- my desktop |
| 19:05.18 | AnMaster | if it doesn't look like that, I won't update |
| 19:05.33 | troy | AnMaster: last I checked, dannya was porting the old hicolor icon theme (the one from 1.1.2/2.x/3.0) |
| 19:05.37 | AnMaster | hm ok |
| 19:05.43 | AnMaster | troy, that is good at least |
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| 19:05.50 | AnMaster | but what happened to kicker and kdesktop |
| 19:05.51 | AnMaster | ? |
| 19:05.57 | troy | AnMaster: they got replaced |
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| 19:06.03 | AnMaster | troy, with what? |
| 19:06.04 | troy | AnMaster: plasma |
| 19:06.12 | AnMaster | this is a low end box |
| 19:06.18 | troy | shouldn't be a problem |
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| 19:06.23 | AnMaster | plasma sounds like 3d stuff |
| 19:06.28 | troy | no, it's 2D |
| 19:06.30 | AnMaster | but maybe it is just the name |
| 19:06.34 | AnMaster | any screenshots? |
| 19:06.41 | troy | see dot.kde.org - top article... |
| 19:06.46 | annma | plasma has just the libs done |
| 19:06.55 | troy | still a very early preview... |
| 19:07.06 | annma | just meaning lots of work |
| 19:07.26 | annma | plamoids will be easily done |
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| 19:07.43 | AnMaster | true, just want to make sure that you won't make it impossible to get a desktop that looks like the screenshot I posted above |
| 19:07.57 | AnMaster | troy, uh dot.kde.org times out here |
| 19:07.58 | annma | AnMaster: we do what we like mostly |
| 19:08.26 | annma | but you'll have ways to make a kde2 look probbaly |
| 19:08.42 | troy | AnMaster: you won't be able to make it look exactly like that, but very close in many ways... kicker being the biggest exception... |
| 19:08.51 | AnMaster | annma, and if not, I can just decide to not update and hope there won't be any big security problems |
| 19:08.51 | mlankhorst | lol |
| 19:08.55 | AnMaster | ;) |
| 19:09.06 | AnMaster | troy, so how would kicker work? |
| 19:09.12 | AnMaster | or not work |
| 19:09.14 | AnMaster | or look |
| 19:09.18 | mlankhorst | hehe |
| 19:09.22 | straw | troy: i assume there's still a panel of some kind |
| 19:09.36 | troy | AnMaster: it's gone entirely, replaced by a specially crafted desktop applet... |
| 19:09.40 | mlankhorst | katapult :D |
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| 19:09.53 | troy | which isn't complete yet |
| 19:10.16 | AnMaster | yep, a panel with running apps, 6 virtual desktops, the k menu, a clock, and some stuff like change sound level and open kgpg |
| 19:10.21 | AnMaster | I hope for that |
| 19:10.24 | straw | troy: are you running a qt4/kde4 desktop as we speak? |
| 19:10.29 | troy | AnMaster: should all be there... |
| 19:10.34 | troy | straw: in my other X session, yaeh |
| 19:10.36 | AnMaster | troy, and that looks like kicker? |
| 19:10.39 | AnMaster | :/ |
| 19:10.47 | troy | AnMaster: can't guarantee the looks part... |
| 19:10.55 | AnMaster | troy, that is important for me |
| 19:10.58 | troy | AnMaster: although I'm sure someone will write a theme for it... |
| 19:11.01 | straw | troy: hit us with a random screenshot :) |
| 19:11.04 | AnMaster | that it can look like KDE2 |
| 19:11.33 | troy | straw: okay :P |
| 19:11.43 | troy | give me a few moments, gotta switch sessions and such |
| 19:11.59 | AnMaster | ah now, dot.kde.org loads |
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| 19:12.47 | straw | it's new. and it's HOT |
| 19:12.48 | lmm | hello, I have set KDEWM to kwin but kde is still starting compiz when I log in. What could I have done wrong? |
| 19:12.54 | AnMaster | troy, oh and konqueror needs to look like KDE2/KDE3 too |
| 19:13.00 | AnMaster | and konsole |
| 19:13.20 | straw | lmm: run kwin --replace & |
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| 19:13.45 | lmm | straw: I am doing, but it's a pain to do it every time I log in |
| 19:13.47 | AnMaster | straw, a framework for downloading addons/data updates? |
| 19:14.00 | lmm | and I know I could set a startup script to do it, but that seems a horrible hack |
| 19:14.25 | AnMaster | straw, AddOnManager framework, would be a lot better name perhaps? |
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| 19:15.02 | straw | lmm: the change should get saved automagically :/ |
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| 19:15.24 | jono | aseigo, ping |
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| 19:15.34 | aseigo | jono: pong |
| 19:15.46 | jono | aseigo, want to do a lugradio interview in about an hour? |
| 19:15.59 | straw | lmm: something must be starting the other wm, overriding what's saved in your session |
| 19:16.28 | lmm | straw: no, I suspect it's just that I haven't managed to cleanly log out yet |
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| 19:16.51 | lmm | thanks |
| 19:19.07 | troy | AnMaster: you know, you won't get it to look just like kde 2, because that was so many years ago... some things can look similar, but there will be changes that you'll have to accept, or choose not to upgrade... |
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| 19:19.25 | AnMaster | troy, as KDE3 with KDE2 theme |
| 19:20.26 | AnMaster | troy, after all my text editor looked the same for as long as I can remember, perhaps a new menu alternative or some alternative moved, or some key combo changed, but for key combos it is simple to change back |
| 19:20.29 | troy | straw: know of a good place to throw the screenshot? |
| 19:20.31 | AnMaster | (talking about emacs) |
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| 19:21.13 | jono | aseigo, ping? |
| 19:21.20 | AnMaster | troy, pics.ww.com? |
| 19:21.26 | AnMaster | or some random image hosting site? |
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| 19:22.29 | aseigo | jono: pong? |
| 19:22.39 | aseigo | jono: oh sorry. you said something again ;) |
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| 19:22.57 | aseigo | jono: hm... i've got a board meeting in 9 minutes, but should keep it to around an hour.. |
| 19:23.02 | aseigo | jono: so yeah, it should work... |
| 19:23.08 | aseigo | jono: do you have my number still? |
| 19:23.52 | jono | aseigo, mail me your number |
| 19:23.59 | jono | jonobacon AT gmail DOT com |
| 19:24.31 | troy | straw: random KDE4 screenshot http://troyunrau.blogspot.com/ |
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| 19:26.11 | picca | anyone know when koffice will be released |
| 19:26.16 | saeed | hi guys |
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| 19:26.38 | saeed | anyone knows where's the module for bcm43xx_mac80211? |
| 19:26.42 | aseigo | jono: sent |
| 19:26.56 | troy | saeed: probably want to check your distro channel for that one... |
| 19:26.59 | aseigo | picca: koffice2? they are looking to do alphas around the same time 4.0 does betas |
| 19:27.24 | AnMaster | troy, for how long will security updates to kde 3 be released after the release of kde 4? |
| 19:27.29 | Genscher | please help me :) i'm new to linux/kde. I accidently clicked my "File, Edit, .." menu bar away in the Konqueror. Any idea how to get it back? |
| 19:27.35 | troy | AnMaster: dunno - probably at least a year... |
| 19:27.52 | picca | aseigo: so no 1.6.3+ versions? |
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| 19:28.36 | Shaman | ok konqueror 3.5.7 crashes hard if I try to upload a video to facebook |
| 19:28.41 | Shaman | :/ |
| 19:28.44 | troy | AnMaster: 3.5.x will probably release every three months or so until no one submits changes anymore... |
| 19:28.46 | aseigo | picca: i don't know off the top of my head; i'd have to look at their release sched... |
| 19:28.48 | jono | aseigo, right, thanks :) |
| 19:28.54 | jono | speak to you in a bit |
| 19:28.54 | AnMaster | hm ok |
| 19:29.10 | Shaman | dunno why konq seems to crash over such things when the standards are, well, standard |
| 19:29.11 | Shaman | :/ |
| 19:29.30 | aseigo | picca: http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KOffice_1.6_Release_Schedule |
| 19:30.05 | troy | Shaman: sometimes it's the website's fault, since they are providing features based on the user agent string - for example, gmail works just fine in konq if you set the user agent to "Firefox" |
| 19:30.22 | troy | Shaman: could be something like that happening with facebook... |
| 19:30.23 | picca | thanks aseigo |
| 19:30.50 | Shaman | no this is a crash bug |
| 19:30.55 | Shaman | as in, konq crashes hard |
| 19:30.56 | picca | i will rebuild koffice after i've done kde |
| 19:31.12 | picca | konq crashes hard with some emails in yahoo |
| 19:31.38 | troy | Shaman: I never have konq crash here.... what distro are you using? |
| 19:32.17 | RichiH | kmobiletools starts each and every time i log into KDE |
| 19:32.31 | Shaman | gentoo |
| 19:32.37 | RichiH | how can i make it not do that short of uninstalling? |
| 19:32.42 | Shaman | i've worked pretty hard at using the standard configs tho |
| 19:32.47 | RichiH | it is annoying to no end |
| 19:32.54 | Shaman | I can try it in debian but I'm guessing it will crash hard too |
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| 19:33.30 | Shaman | when 3.5.7 came out I did emerge -e gnome kde kaffeine amarok filelight |
| 19:33.52 | Shaman | just to be sure the whole dang toolchain was compiled against all current versions |
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| 19:35.57 | aseigo | picca: np |
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| 19:49.30 | straw | troy: thanks! sorry, i was on the phone |
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| 20:36.35 | nikolavp | how can i install amarok 2 from the svn |
| 20:36.47 | nikolavp | i cant find the sources, but i saw them in the LiveCD :0 |
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| 20:39.07 | troy | nikolavp: with much difficultly - you need to set up an entire KDE 4 environment first |
| 20:39.21 | troy | nikolavp: at this point, unless you're a developer, we don't recommend it yet... |
| 20:39.23 | nikolavp | troy, i am just doing that |
| 20:39.29 | nikolavp | but it will finish this night |
| 20:39.34 | troy | oh, heh... |
| 20:39.43 | troy | sources are in extragear/multimedia |
| 20:39.55 | nikolavp | ah so they are in the svn repository |
| 20:39.59 | troy | yeah |
| 20:40.07 | nikolavp | i was almost sure but i really browse too slow :) |
| 20:40.16 | nikolavp | it seems the repository is hardly used :x |
| 20:40.42 | troy | well, the web interface isn't the fastest, but it is quite useful :) |
| 20:41.03 | nikolavp | :) |
| 20:42.03 | nikolavp | thanks i will look at that tomorrow :P |
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| 21:09.58 | tsb | How do you reload konq and clear all cache? A document in konq insists the image is not there, but it works fine in other borwsers. |
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| 21:10.51 | pinotree | shift+click on reload? |
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| 21:15.32 | CPrgmSwR2 | Hi, how do you import an external library using kdevelop |
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| 21:22.27 | CPrgmSwR2 | Is it me or does KDevelop suck |
| 21:22.53 | MinceR | it does |
| 21:22.53 | pinotree | CPrgmSwR2: #kdevelop |
| 21:23.01 | MinceR | a great deal. |
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| 21:26.25 | CPrgmSwR2 | No one is responding in kdevelop |
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| 21:28.29 | CPrgmSwR2 | Thnx for the fantastic help |
| 21:28.37 | MinceR | np |
| 21:29.00 | CPrgmSwR2 | In other words I didn't get help |
| 21:29.43 | MinceR | "in other words"? it's the opposite thing... |
| 21:29.59 | CPrgmSwR2 | Yes |
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| 21:38.49 | bujinx | my wireless is not working can anyone take a look att this url and perhaps tell me whats wrong and how to fix it? http://www.pastebin.ca/516865 |
| 21:39.37 | tuxick | bujinx: that's hardly a kde issue |
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| 21:41.01 | bujinx | ok, sorry, just asking... |
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| 21:41.25 | mikeyman77 | how do i get gtk apps like firefox to look exactly like my qt apps |
| 21:41.47 | mikeyman77 | i have tried the gtk-qt-engine and firefox still has blocky buttons |
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| 21:41.58 | mikeyman77 | i have tried qtcurve and it does the same thing |
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| 21:53.48 | CPrgmSwR2 | Hi |
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| 22:30.50 | Punkunity | I need to know if it is safe for me to delete KDE from my Ubuntu Feisty setup?? I have beryl and a bunch of programs, but I dont use/like KDE |
| 22:30.51 | Punkunity | and how should I do it, through synaptic?? |
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| 22:33.21 | pinotree | Punkunity: #kubuntu please |
| 22:34.53 | Punkunity | ok |
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| 23:25.48 | tsb | Hrm, kword cannot save as pdf? |
| 23:26.51 | Mek | every kde application can print to pdf... |
| 23:27.02 | benJIman | Every non-kde app can if you print to kprinter |
| 23:28.19 | benJIman | kword can import pdf too |
| 23:28.20 | tsb | Oh, right. That's intuitive; you print it to .pdf, but you file->save everything else. :) |
| 23:28.23 | tsb | thanks |
| 23:28.51 | benJIman | PDF is a final output format, like postscript that you print to too. |
| 23:29.14 | benJIman | PDF is closer to export than save |
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| 23:32.13 | MinceR | no matter how much adobe tries to hype it, pdf is about as much a print format as ps is |
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| 23:48.55 | jwallingford | how do i connect to my two other windows box and one other suse box from this suse machine... new to linux |
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| 23:49.31 | jwallingford | i have been trying just typing in //smb (computer name) |
| 23:49.36 | jwallingford | but thats not working to well for me |
| 23:49.42 | qupada42 | smb://hostname/share |
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| 23:51.22 | nana | hello there, I have a c++ problem. Could someone help me? |
| 23:51.42 | nana | hello there, I have a c++ problem. Could someone help me? - Nana Richie |
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| 23:53.32 | busfahrer | in Kubuntu (modified KControl), there is an option to make Firefox and other GTK based applications to blend in well, visually, i.e. to mimic the current KDE style to gtk, as well. Is there such an option, in the 'normal' KDE distribution as well? If yes, where? I can't seem to find it. |
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| 23:55.23 | jwallingford | qupada: great thank you that worked for my windows computer but can you tell me how to view all computers on the network |
| 23:55.34 | qupada | smb:/ |
| 23:55.36 | qupada | usually |
| 23:55.47 | qupada | it's not 100% reliable, but nothing involving windows ever is |
| 23:56.38 | jwallingford | i am trying to connect to another suse box |
| 23:56.58 | jwallingford | when i type in smb://boxname it tells me the server timed out |
| 23:57.08 | jwallingford | my windows machine is connecting to it just fine through samba |
| 23:57.47 | evesautomotive | how do I get beryl to autostart when kde starts? |
| 23:57.56 | jwallingford | when i do smb:/ it says unable to find any workgroups this may be because of firewall |
