IRC log for #kde on 20070701

00:01.31PhinnFortShirakawasuna: Kontact?
00:01.34PhinnFortKmail?
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00:02.19ShirakawasunaPhinnFort: can they sync centrally and use shared mail with access control?
00:02.27PhinnFortShirakawasuna: I think so
00:02.36Shirakawasunaif they could that would be very cool
00:02.36PhinnFortShirakawasuna: I just use it for personal use, though
00:02.42PhinnFortShirakawasuna: also look into Mailody
00:02.46Shirakawasunabecause it looks like Kontact has everything required on a personal level.
00:02.52ShirakawasunaI'm just not sure about the sharing.
00:03.07PhinnFortShirakawasuna: well, it doesn't cost anything, so you can just try it out;)
00:03.16heinShirakawasuna: Kontact + Kolab is the 'replacement stack'
00:03.30PsychonautAnyone have any experience with Mark Kretschmann of Amarok?
00:03.34heinPsychonaut: yes, why?
00:03.43heinPsychonaut: he's here, btw: markey
00:04.34Shirakawasunahein: Kolab, eh?
00:04.47hydrogenhe's sleeping currently though
00:04.47heinShirakawasuna: for the server end
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00:04.53Psychonauthein: I've been reporting KDE bugs for years... I just reported one for Amarok and the response I got was rather rude.  I was a bit shocked as I've never encountered anything like that before.
00:05.50Sho_Psychonaut: hm markey is usually a nice/fun guy though in my experience
00:05.54Sho_Psychonaut: maybe he had a bad day
00:06.10hydrogenbug number? from what I see of the bug digest he didn't say anything out of the ordindary
00:06.11PsychonautSho_: I hope so.  If this were my first bug report to KDE it would have turned me off the whole process.
00:06.28PsychonautBug 139109.
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00:07.41hydrogenmmm
00:07.44hydrogenthe way I'd take that
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00:07.57hydrogenis that being able to delete from preset is not the soltuion to the problem you brought up
00:09.02Psychonauthydrogen: I can see how that would be a possible interpretation.  But if that was what was meant, it would have been nice if he had put it that way rather than dismissing the report as "silly" and saying that he didn't believe it.
00:09.28hydrogenmm
00:09.29hydrogenits markey
00:09.32hydrogendon't get offended :)
00:09.43hydrogenhe's cool if you talk to him
00:09.55Psychonauthydrogen: Yeah, it's just a bug report.  But we can all be civil to each other, can't we? :)
00:10.50Shirakawasunameh, no need to be civil if he had made the slightest effort to actually say why he won't fix it :)
00:11.14ShirakawasunaI'm sure he had a technical reason but his comments read like "I don't wanna"
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00:12.20PhinnFortwell, he has no responsibility to fix it, has he (except morally)?
00:12.21PhinnFort;)
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00:13.46PsychonautPhinnFort: No, but as a fellow human being I think he ought to feel some obligation to treat those trying to help out the project with a bit more respect.
00:14.01PhinnFort...morally, as I said;)
00:14.21litbok, guys. can you help me developing network support for my app? i have a shell command. i would appreciate it if you test that
00:14.34PhinnForthe was either a) busy, b) having a bad day, c) just had explained it to someone else, or d) all of the above?
00:14.45litbfor i in /sys/class/net/*; do cd $i; if [ $[$(cat $i/flags) & 1] -eq 1 ]; then echo "${i##*/} is up"; else echo "${i##*/} is down"; fi; cd ..; done
00:14.47litb^^
00:14.53litbdoes it work for you?
00:16.05PsychonautJim Butterfield just died.
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00:17.25PhinnForthttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Butterfield
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00:18.34PsychonautAnd with him died any hope of implementing KDE on the Commodore 64…
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00:33.52pressenterHow is the kde users admin app called?
00:34.06PhinnFortkcontrol?
00:39.02Shirakawasunahmm, the kolab site is down.
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00:45.41DaSkreechoh yeah :)
00:45.52DaSkreechi forget why i logged in
00:46.20DaSkreechis there any family tree software for linux/kde?
00:46.34dwbellDaSkreech: gramps
00:46.50jacekowskiyes
00:47.11jacekowskibut i don't remember name
00:47.14DaSkreechsounds like a gtk app :)
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00:49.00DaSkreechdwbell: good?
00:50.15dwbellnever used it but I've been reading about it everywhere lately. good reviews. I think Linux Journal even did a peice on it.
00:51.17DaSkreechnice
00:51.28dwbellhttp://www.gramps-project.org/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page
00:51.29DaSkreechI like quirky software turning up :)
00:54.04dwbelllooks gtk by screenshots
00:54.50wolsniwhat's wrong with GTK?
00:54.58DaSkreechno kparts
00:55.12tuxickwolsni: look at the gtk tutorial and cry
00:55.34wolsniwell, I was assuming that he wasn't a developer
00:55.47tuxick:)
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00:56.41ryan__how do you add a 'open terminal' entry to always display in the right click menu?
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00:57.14dwbellwolsni: nothing particularly wrong with gtk but since this is the kde channel and he asked about kde software I thought it might not look native on his machine
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00:58.34ryan__i can see how i can make a servicemenu entry for files, but i want an 'open terminal' to always be in the right click menu
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01:06.18pressenterAnd in what package is the kdm?
01:07.19qupadakdebase, with any luck
01:07.30pressenterAh, ok.
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01:17.39AimeSiSolArtHello, does anyone know how to make konqueror close a tab by clicking on it with the mouse's middlebutton (like in firefox) ?
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01:33.14dwbellAimeSiSolArt: I've been wishing for that too.
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01:39.30AimeSiSolArtdwbell: ALT + F2 => kwriteconfig --file konquerorrc --group "FMSettings" --key MouseMiddleClickClosesTab --type bool true
01:39.41AimeSiSolArtsee also : http://wiki.kde.org/tiki-index.php?page=Hidden+configuration
01:39.56AimeSiSolArtyou're welcome :)
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01:43.16AimeSiSolArtdwbell: don't forget that konqueror must be restarted
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02:25.26violotIs there a way to change the default size of buttons?
02:25.41violotI'd like my buttons to have a certain extra padding around the text :\
02:25.50violotSort of like how OS X does it
02:26.51jacekowskiAFAIK buttons size depends on theme
02:27.08violotHmmm, you'd think a theme emulating Mac OS X would implement that :P
02:27.24stonedhey
02:27.29stonedwhat?
02:27.47violotMe?
02:28.21stonedwait what?
02:28.28stonedimplement what
02:28.33stonedI don't get it
02:28.45stonedsize of what buttons?
02:28.48violotOS X makes the button padding some number*the text width
02:28.53violotI forget the number though
02:29.02stonedwhy?
02:29.08violotI dunno, their HIG code
02:29.15stonedHIG?
02:29.28violotHuman Interface Guideline
02:29.32stonedoh
02:29.39stonedwhat are you doing?
02:30.12violotNothin.  Is Baghira out of development now?
02:30.22stonedI dunno
02:30.34violotWhat Mac OS X emulating themes are there now?  *violot cries*
02:30.46jacekowskibaghira
02:30.53stonedmac os interface sucks
02:30.53stonedimo
02:31.01violotIt owns, pretty much.
02:31.01jacekowskiIMO too
02:31.10stonedI'm not the only one
02:31.11stoned:D
02:31.13violotjacekowski: yeah, but it has bad button sizing :\
02:31.17stonedtwo to one
02:31.21stonedviolot: you lose
02:31.29stonedj/k
02:31.31violotI know, I know, tell me to be "original" :P
02:31.50violotBut I really like Mac OS X, and I hope to get a Macbook soon :X
02:32.00stonedword
02:32.04jacekowskii use ugly configured plastik
02:32.12stonedhey check me out
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02:32.18jacekowski+ugly configured emerald
02:32.24stonedhttp://youfuck.mypets.ws/screenshots/kde.jpg
02:32.33stonedthats what my desktop looks like I think
02:33.24stonedhey what do you think?
02:33.28stonedis it green enough yet?
02:33.34jacekowskihmmm
02:33.36jacekowskii think
02:33.43jacekowskiError!
02:33.43jacekowskiCould not locate remote server
02:33.45violotI'm not a fan of serif fonts for the desktop really :\
02:33.58violotOr puke green :P  *jokes*
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02:34.40stonedpuke!
02:34.50stonedsick. more like pot green
02:35.20violotlol
02:35.41stonedI wish I lived in a house in the woods or feilds, grew my animals to eat em, grow my vegetables and tend to them, easy life, and smoke
02:36.02stonedno technology
02:36.11stonedbut it would get boring after a while
02:36.16jacekowskino
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02:36.45stonedno what?
02:36.50jacekowski04:36 < stoned> but it would get boring after a while
02:37.03stonedwhy won't it get boring
02:37.15stonedI mean you can't just get high and lay around all day, you gotta do something
02:37.23stonedwhat will you do for entertainment?
02:37.31stonedwhat about music?
02:38.16jacekowskii don't now
02:38.42jacekowskiknow*
02:39.23jacekowskibut AFAIK few years ago they have music too
02:40.04stonedwithout technology how can you have anything?
02:40.34jacekowskii think you are technology addict
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02:40.57sabayonlive-1322hi
02:41.17jacekowskii like to go somewhere when cellphone don't work where isn't electricity
02:41.24jacekowskisometimes
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02:42.39jacekowskiand i'm ~18yo
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02:44.28jacekowskiif i can choose who i want to be
02:45.00jacekowskihmmm
02:45.12jacekowskii always wanted to be a pirate
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02:46.16jacekowski~5pm
02:46.22jacekowskilate
02:46.27jacekowskiam*
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02:54.47jacekowskii hate big cities
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02:57.44Casperhi there, for k3b, how do you disable burn free?
02:59.01kdepepoadvanced settings page
03:01.36Caspercan't see the option... maybe it's too old?
03:01.57Casper0.12.17...
03:02.13kdepepouh, 1.0.2 is current
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03:02.40kdepepobut it should also be in your version
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03:04.08CasperI'm blind...
03:04.31Casperfirst option on the writting page
03:04.41Casperthen my burner enforce it....
03:05.08kdepepooh then pages are reorganized :)
03:05.48CasperI want to disable the burnproof...   but I know it's enabled...
03:06.15CasperI see the write speed jump from 12X to 4X while burning..
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03:10.46Casperdo you know of a tool to help to burn lots of directory? while saving as much space on the dvd-r?
03:11.03Casperi.e. a prog that tell you what to put on the disk so it minimise the waste?
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03:12.26kdepepomaybe create images before burning...
03:12.58kdepepoand mount them to check space distribution
03:13.05Casperthat is what I want to do, but that don't fix the wasted space...
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03:15.18roger_hi all,
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03:17.30euhello
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03:19.50roger_I'm newbies, how can I automatically boot may FC to gui, coz each time I open I have to type startx
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03:21.27roger_the last time I edit and change some in innittab my FC corrupt
03:21.55roger_anybody?
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03:22.12NotLinuxwhen I log in to this distro as a user and startx I want kde to look/act the same as it does for root.  Is there a . file that I can copy that controles this?
03:22.21NotLinuxer, controls even
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03:27.44kdepeporoger_, #fedora ?
03:29.42Lazydoga214: edit /etc/inittab and change id:3:initdefault: to 5
03:32.03a214yes thats what I did, then after restart it woundnt load up all of the key files are failed loading
03:34.11a214it says something about security
03:34.22Lazydogjoin #fedora and ask there
03:34.46a214ok thanks very much
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04:11.38ferret_0567does Kget support download acceleration like "Down them All" for Firefox?
04:12.46ferret_0567Run KGet from the command-line, like WGet. Or have it list available links for download from within Konqueror. Or, create a "drop-point" where you can drag and drop files and hyperlinks!
04:12.48ferret_0567cool
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04:33.48linux__alieni was actually using Gnome for couple of days and then today logged back to KDE and i was surprised that my KMenu has changed and the change was the KDE Control Center shortcut in the Menu was missing. How do i retrieve it back
04:34.21_timrs_like alt-f1?
04:34.35linux__alienthat means?
04:34.53_timrs_"shortcut in the Menu was missing" -- clarify
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04:35.40linux__alienThat Control Center in the KMenu was not there at all. I dont have that option itself in that menu
04:36.08_timrs_shouldn't it appear as "Personal Settings"
04:36.20linux__alieni dont remember but its missing
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04:36.39_timrs_hold on
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04:38.11_timrs_just open up kmenu edit and add an entry for kcontrol
04:38.37_timrs_'kmenuedit' is the command, then 'kcontrol' is the kde control center command
04:39.17_timrs_OR, if that doesn't work...
04:39.49_timrs_right click on panel, unlock, right click, configure panel, menus section, and settings is in the optional menus
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04:41.19linux__alien_timrs_, its a bug right?
04:41.40_timrs_maybe, sometimes things in kmenu don't show up
04:42.19_timrs_i have things like wine applications in ~/.kde/share/applnk that don't show up
04:43.13linux__alienand i also found that KDE4 looks like the existing KDE3
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04:43.23linux__alieni mean the look and feel of it
04:43.40ferret_0567http://linuxreviews.org/kde/kde-user-persp/
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04:43.48ferret_0567lol, Windows users don't have that
04:43.51_timrs_thats because plasma and oxygen haven't been done in the screenshot you've seen
04:44.32linux__alienin KDE its only C++ or can we develop applications with C also?
04:44.40linux__alienis it possible?
04:44.48_timrs_C works i believe
04:45.04_timrs_you should at least play with kdevelop
04:45.13ferret_0567Isn't there KDE bindings for a lot of programming languages?
04:45.20_timrs_ya
04:45.20ferret_0567Including Java and Python?
04:45.28linux__alienyes but is it available for C ?
04:45.36linux__alieni feel its only available for OOPS languages
04:45.37_timrs_mostly things like perl, python, java and stuff -- yes its for C
04:46.00linux__alien_timrs_, you mean to say its available for  C also?
04:46.03_timrs_python is more for gtk, isn't it?
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04:46.10_timrs_linux__alien: yes
04:46.12ferret_0567I dunno
04:46.28linux__alien_timrs_, can you give me the link for it ?
04:46.31_timrs_just open up kdevelop and you'll see tons of languages
04:46.50_timrs_linux_alien: don't know of one off the top of my head
04:47.20ferret_0567does kget support download acceleration?
04:47.36ferret_0567I'm trying to decide if I want to take the time to compile it
04:47.49_timrs_what do you mean by download acceleration?
04:48.16ferret_0567it downloads files in chunks
04:48.34ferret_0567and joins them later to get faster downloads
04:48.35ferret_0567results
04:48.46_timrs_don't think so.. but i don't really know
04:48.46ferret_0567like...
04:48.56_timrs_like torrents, i know what you mean
04:49.13ferret_0567and "Down them All" firefox extension
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04:49.30ferret_0567although down them all messes up for big downloads
04:49.41ferret_0567especially ISO's
04:49.59_timrs_linux__alien: this may not help you at all, but for C++ go to http://www.beginning-kdevelop-programming.co.uk/
04:50.32_timrs_ferret_0567: why does that 'mess things up'
04:50.56ferret_0567because of when it joins files, it joins them incorrectly
04:51.03ferret_0567or some other problem
04:51.15_timrs_oh, i've never had that problem
04:51.46jhulstAny recomendations for rss readers?
04:51.49ferret_0567no checksumming like torrentds
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04:52.25_timrs_jhulst: theres akregator
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04:53.18jhulst_timrs_: I currently use akregator, do you know if it is still in current development?
04:53.29_timrs_i wouldn't know
04:53.38_timrs_but i use it all the time
04:54.37jhulstyeah, I like it too, there are a few problems, I just didn't know if it was still an active project
04:54.55_timrs_my problems are kindof dumb
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04:55.30_timrs_like clicking the link on a digg page forces my mouse into some 'cancel' image and have to kill X to get my mouse back
04:55.46Casperhi again, finally upgraded k3b...  but... burnproof stay enabled even if I disable it! anyone have an idea how to fix that?
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04:56.46_timrs_disable it where? when you're about to burn you uncheck the box or what?
04:58.00spawn57lemme try
04:58.04Caspersettings -> configure k3b -> advanced: burning -> [ ] Use burnfree   <== i.e. disabled
04:58.21_timrs_hold on
04:58.58Casperburning a dvd at 16X over the network... constant write speed of about 6 to 6.1x (8.something MB/s)
05:00.37spawn57Casper: sounds like you got the config right, it might be specific to your writer, you're gonna have to submit a bug report
05:00.42_timrs_don't know why it would reset its settings like that
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05:05.46_timrs_anyone wanna help here?: http://groups.google.com/group/Google-Desktop-Linux-How-do-I/browse_thread/thread/6955e8a5b7f804e4/a464e999fae6f7f7
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05:12.49_timrs_how do i add google desktop search to the konqueror search bar?
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05:20.48Shirakawasuna_timrs_: uh...
05:21.08_timrs_I've had no luck -- http://groups.google.com/group/Google-Desktop-Linux-How-do-I/browse_thread/thread/6955e8a5b7f804e4/a464e999fae6f7f7
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05:27.39Shirakawasuna_timrs_: right... are you using linux?
05:27.52_timrs_ya, of course
05:28.02Shirakawasunaah, it was just released
05:28.55_timrs_my prob: http://127.0.0.1:36865/search?flags=8&hl=en_US&num=10&q=food&start=0&s=QEF1QIu1avxhOx0wdey8teFFH2Y clearly demonstrates that /q=food is the query
05:29.14_timrs_and http://127.0.0.1:36865/search?flags=8&hl=en_US&num=10&q=\{@}&start=0&s=QEF1QIu1avxhOx0wdey8teFFH2Y doesn't work
05:29.37_timrs_it only works when food is the query
05:30.07_timrs_the &start=0&s=QEF1QIu1avxhOx0wdey8teFFH2Y seems insane
05:30.10Shirakawasunawell it isn't available in non-deb form and i don't feel like messing around w/ it at the moment
05:30.24Shirakawasunaalthough this is #kde so we don't really support google's attempts at a linux version of their app
05:30.31Casper-use-the-force-luke... does anyone have a list of those?
05:30.33_timrs_well, i used an rpm, its in non-deb form
05:30.46_timrs_Casper: wtf?
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05:30.59Casperfor growisofs
05:31.05ShirakawasunaCasper: ? :)
05:31.14ShirakawasunaCasper: I have no idea what you're talking about
05:31.46Casperthose stupid developper decided to make tons of option for growisofs undocumented and prefix those by -use-the-force-luke=whatever
05:32.04_timrs_Casper: I'm going to track you with your IP address somehow and get the feds to put you in a mental institution
05:32.10ShirakawasunaCasper: weird
05:32.22ma3xwhen I right click - properties on the 'dancing bar' or 'multimeter' thing in the ksysguardd plugin, there is an option to adjust the font size. it's not there in etch. how do I add it?
05:32.25DaSkreechCasper: first... change your name to luke
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05:32.26ShirakawasunaCasper: use k3b? ;)
05:32.29DaSkreechthen.....
05:32.31DaSkreech:)
05:32.52CasperShirakawasuna: I do, but here is the problem: I can't disable burnproof!
05:33.02_timrs_lol
05:33.13CasperI want the burner to stick out it's tongue on a buffer underrun condition
05:33.25ShirakawasunaCasper: you don't want burnproof?
05:33.31ma3xto what package does it belong?
05:33.35ma3xkicker or sysguard?
05:33.49Shirakawasunama3x: you'd have to ask #kubuntu
05:33.56ma3xim using kde
05:33.59ma3xwhy should i ask kubuntu
05:34.08Shirakawasunabecause distros package things separately sometimes
05:34.24Casperno, because burnproof make a small burning error on the disk, which should be ignored by all normal reader, except some very capricious one...
05:34.33ShirakawasunaCasper: hmm
05:34.37Casperso disabling it should make more reliable burns
05:34.56Shirakawasunasorry, no idea
05:35.01Shirakawasunamy google skills have failed you.
05:35.06Caspersame for me...
05:35.53Casperit look like plextor forced the use of the burn proof
05:36.48ma3xmaybe it belongs to kdecore
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05:37.10ma3xbecause when you go to multimeter settings it says kde panel at the top of it
05:37.20ma3xand kdepanel is part of kdecore right?
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05:38.59Shirakawasunama3x: you're most definitely in kubuntu country, now.  Please ask in #kubuntu
05:39.19ma3xi am not using kubuntu
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05:40.10Shirakawasunaah, I mean #debian
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05:40.58DaSkreechheehee
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05:43.46Shirakawasunadarn OSes with their alliteration names
05:43.56Shirakawasunawhat's the next one, goofy goose?
05:44.24DaSkreechGutsy Gibbon
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05:45.17Shirakawasunawell at least it's a monkey this time.  Monkeys are awesome.
05:45.29_timrs_no they're not
05:45.36ma3xhow come you dont know that
05:45.44ma3xits a kde thing
05:45.59ma3xright click on ksysguard applet
05:46.04ma3xthen you go to properties
05:46.08ma3xwhat owns this package?
05:46.27ma3xi mean what package owns those options
05:46.35ma3xit sure has nothing to do with debian
05:46.37_timrs_can't believe Shirakawasuna directed you to your disto channel, its most definitely a kde thing
05:46.40ma3xit's only packaged for debian
05:46.52ma3xbut debian didnt touch it
05:48.06Shirakawasuna_timrs_: no, it's not.  Distros change the packaging of KDE often.
05:48.12Shirakawasuna_timrs_: for instance gentoo splits it up into separate packages
05:48.43Shirakawasunama3x: ksysguard is supposed to be part of kdebase (I dont' know why you considered kdecore), and this *is* a distro question because it has to do with packaging.
05:48.49_timrs_not like that -- unless you're in freespire/linspire land
05:49.01Shirakawasuna_timrs_: feel free to ask anyone else in here
05:49.19ma3xShirakawasuna, yeah it has to do with packaging
05:49.21Shirakawasunaa specific distro's packaging isn't supported unless some random debian person is nice enough to help out
05:49.25ma3xbut nothing with the kde itself
05:49.28_timrs_w/e, kde usually stays the same in every distro besides linspire/freespire
05:49.32ma3xi mean they didnt change your source code
05:49.57DaSkreech_timrs_: What do they do?
05:50.08DaSkreechsed the k's back to cs?
05:50.10Shirakawasunama3x: right but you're simply asking about naming and packaging.  I use archlinux - why should I know what packaging scheme debian uses? :)
05:50.18Shirakawasunaor if I had SUSE
05:50.26_timrs_distros are tooo involved with kernel stuff and hardware than to deal with individual messing up kde
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05:50.32Shirakawasunathat's why I was nice and directed you to your distro channel, where it's germane and you're likely to get better help.
05:50.38ShirakawasunaI could have simply ignored you
05:50.41ma3xShirakawasuna, then at least tell me the files involved and i'll find out the package myself
05:50.57Shirakawasunama3x: what files?
05:51.09Shirakawasunama3x: the location of files is *also* a distro thing, although there can be overlap.
05:51.18Shirakawasunamine are in /opt, in gentoo they're in /usr
05:51.23ma3xShirakawasuna, well when you go to the properties of the kicker sysguard applet
05:51.28ma3xthat must involve some files
05:51.44ma3xi need the filenames
05:52.09_timrs_~/.kde/share/config/kdesysguardrc????
05:52.10Shirakawasunaconfig files for kde apps are in ~/.kde/share/apps/<appname> and /.kde/share/config/appname*
05:52.24Shirakawasunama3x: but if it isn't showing up in the dialogue you're going to have more work to do
05:52.37Shirakawasunaand since this is an issue that appeared only after a distro upgrade I'm going to have to say it's likely your distro's issue.
05:52.52ma3xits not distro upgrade
05:52.54ma3xits simply etch
05:52.57ma3xstable
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05:57.46tirisIs there anyone here who can help with beryl trouble on Sabayon? Here is a link to my problem:http://pastebin.ca/598269
05:58.52Shirakawasunatiris: this is #kde, try #sabayon :)
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05:59.32Shirakawasunabut just so you know it sounds like you don't have direct rendering (it could be something else, too)
06:00.18tirisno that is okay I have been on google maps and have tryed out the other games as well. They run nicely.
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06:04.37Shirakawasunatiris: well, run beryl from a terminal (just 'beryl') and it will give you more information when you try it.
06:04.44Shirakawasunatiris: and ask in #beryl or #sabayon ;)
06:05.48tiristhanks I didn't look for a beryl channel.
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06:10.19ma3xcan i download and compile kicker applets only?
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06:32.44croephahey, is there a way for KDE applications (specifically amarok or kaffiene) to be able to access files on samba shares without haveing to save it to a local disk first?
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06:40.21Chanicroepha: I've nevre used samba, but I don't see why not
06:41.14Chanicroepha: I regularly save screenshots drecrtly to my server over fish:/
06:41.19Chani*directly
06:41.24shevyfish? the shell?
06:41.35Chanihte files over ssh thingy
06:45.58croephain amarok, if i do smb://user@host/path/file.mp3 it sais there is no suitable input plugin
06:47.55the_pcroepha: you can mount the samba share.
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06:49.03benJImanamarok uses xine to play music normally which doesn't understand kioslaves.
06:49.15benJImanSame with kaffeine.
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06:50.32the_pyou have no problem when you mount the samba share.
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06:51.40croephathe_p: its kinda encumbersome for what my needs are
06:51.48croephabut its ok
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06:52.38croephabtw, it does the same thing with fish
06:56.47Chanioh. silly xine :P
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06:57.00ChaniI wonder if phonon will solve that
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06:57.46Chaniyikes, kde4 stuff is taking up abolut 8 gigs on my drive
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07:23.17undrwaterhow does one open konq as a file manager?
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07:24.04strawundrwater: kfmclient openProfile filemanagement
07:24.34undrwaterlovely, thanks straw
07:24.45strawok
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07:32.41ma3xno matter what i try to do, /home/ma3x/Desktop always keeps showing up with Home.desktop Trash.desktop..... in it
07:32.45ma3xi've deleted it many times
07:32.49ma3xwhat does recreate it?
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07:38.16strawma3x: your distro is probably doing it
07:38.31ma3xstraw, come on, don't blame my distro
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07:39.46strawwhy not? afaik, kde isn't restoring ~/Desktop
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07:41.09strawma3x: there's one possible way to find out. there's a setting in kcontrol that allows you to change the location of the Desktop directory
07:41.28ma3xi tried that
07:41.30strawmine's under ~/.kde
07:41.31ma3xit keeps reappearing
07:41.55strawhm. i wonder if something changed with 3.5.7
07:42.37strawrestoring those two icons has been a FAQ here in the past
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07:46.47strawma3x: in that case it's almost definitely your distro. what do you use?
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07:47.14ma3xdebian stable
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07:48.29ma3xits not my distro
07:48.30ma3xits kde
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08:46.06DankerHi
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08:46.48DankerI have problem - quanta is very slow when typing and switching between large script file. Is there any solution. 3.5.7
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08:51.21ferret_0567Is Konversation equivelant to xchat?
08:52.02DankerFar better ;)
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08:53.05ferret_0567really?
08:53.10ferret_0567what does it have more?
08:53.15DankerTry ;)
08:53.24ferret_0567ok...
08:53.28DankerTried both but konversation is really better :)
08:53.55ferret_0567I guess I should compile the full kdenetwork and then compile only konversation so that I can make a checkinstall package
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08:54.07ferret_0567specifically, a modified slackware package (I use LFS)
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09:14.53CrellHi all.  Hopefully simple question.  How do I change the dpi of an image in Krita?  I'm looking through the menus and not seeing it.
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09:16.19PhilRodCrell: if no one here knows, you could try #koffice
09:16.38CrellThanks.  Would that be active at this time of night?
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09:17.43PhilRodpossibly - lots of kde developers are at akademy in glasgow, where it's 10am
09:17.54CrellHm, good point.
09:17.58PhilRod(actually, lots of kde developers are on european time anyway)
09:18.47strawdisturbing events in Glasgow
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09:20.54PhilRodyes. News reports are that no one was hurt though, so I guess everyone at akademy is OK
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09:21.57strawgood. hopefully, they've got the people responsible
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09:23.17CrellHm, no one responding over in #KOffice, either.
09:23.57gourdinwhen changing font settings, the size of, for example, the menu font change between application
09:24.02bram85is internet still out in Glasgow?
09:24.04gourdinsmall in konversation / konqueror
09:24.11gourdinbigger in kontact
09:24.14gourdin(kde 3.5.7)
09:24.18gourdinanyone got a clue ?
09:24.46gourdin(kwrite too have bigger font size)
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09:25.54bram85gourdin: and if you restart the app having the wrong font sizes
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09:26.54gourdinbram85: I have to kill every konqu process
09:26.57CrellNo one here knows from Krita? :-(
09:27.16gourdinbram85: you are right
09:27.23gourdinI need to restart every applications
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09:28.26gourdinbram85: is this a known bug ?
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09:44.13bram85gourdin: not that i know of
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09:48.21Quiarkhi, I read the "Heating plasma" article and they mentioned the Zooming User Interface is going to be in KDE 4. Where can I find some more information about it ? I googled, but couldn't find anyhing relevant to KDE
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09:49.21gourdinlogout/login redo the bug ;/
09:49.54gourdinI have to resart every apps to right font
09:50.06Skrot-Quiark:  Check out http://lists.kde.org/?l=kde-panel-devel&r=1&w=2, http://techbase.kde.org/Projects/Plasma and #plasma - I think most of the devs are in glasgow for akademy right now though
09:52.59Quiarkthanks
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10:01.12Viking667unusual request here - I want to start up a kdm on :1, but it keeps wingeing about :0 server died, so can't start on :0
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10:15.04Bug2000How do I fix my broken KDE :\
10:15.25Bug2000I tried to change the icons, the icons and all the graphics are still missing.
10:15.26Skrot-Depends how its broken..
10:15.35Bug2000Skrot-: I'll show you a screen shot.
10:16.17Bug2000http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/5977/screenshotconqueryourderx5.png
10:16.41Bug2000Thats Konqi from Gnome.
10:16.50Bug2000If I run KDE by itself, the situation is even worse.
10:17.03Skrot-Seems like your missing some stuff.. which distro?
10:17.08Bug2000Archlinux.
10:17.19Skrot-Have you tried asking them how to reinstall KDE?
10:18.05Bug2000Well, I think I did a full reinstall if lowest package is kdelibs
10:18.07Skrot-I've got no idea where the icons are supposed to be etc, so I'm afraid I can't help you much with that issue, other than telling you to reinstall, which is sort of a last-resort thing :)
10:18.31Skrot-Try kdebase and kdeartwork(?) as well
10:19.32Skrot-You can also try to create a new user on your system and see if that user has all the icons and stuff. In that case there is most likely something wrong inside your ~/.kde/ somewhere
10:20.03Bug2000The 'test' user had the issue as well.
10:20.14Skrot-okay, then I would go with the install
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10:20.24Bug2000Targets: k3b  kdeadmin  kdebase  kdegames  kdegraphics  kdetoys  kftpgrabber
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10:20.29Bug2000I think thats all the kde packages I got.
10:20.47Skrot-okay
10:21.14Bug2000To wipe /opt/kde as well?
10:21.16Bug2000Any other paths?
10:21.43Skrot-That's distro dependant
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10:22.30Skrot-Bug2000: What sort of packaging system (apt, emerge,..?) does arch use (if any)?
10:22.34Bug2000pacman
10:22.48Skrot-okay, check if there is an reinstall option in it
10:23.12Skrot-also search the package repository to see if the icons/artwork is in a seperate package
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10:23.43Bug2000There is. I tried it [Tango]
10:24.34Skrot-You might also check and see if changing the icon theme in kcontrol -> Appearance & Themes -> Icons has any effect
10:24.51Bug2000I tried already.
10:25.07Skrot-and there where some themes in the list?
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10:25.16Skrot-Some icon themes that is
10:25.23Bug2000Ya.
10:25.28Skrot-man.. weird issue
10:25.58Bug2000When KDE is loaded as a WM, it shows black box instead of splash.
10:26.07Skrot-hmm
10:26.24Skrot-Seems like something is terribly wrong then..
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10:27.14Skrot-Either KDE is unable to render bitmaps, or it simply can't find them would be my guess
10:27.53Bug2000Umm, new account thingy, doesn't show flags.
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10:29.33Bug2000Skrot-: http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/8527/desktoptn4.png
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10:29.57Bug2000[Don't want to close my Gnome session, therefor used Xnest, but I get the same things even if it runs by itself]
10:31.07Skrot-Seems like it doesnt render any bitmaps/can't find any icons
10:31.24Bug2000What do you suggest trying?
10:31.30Skrot-Try looking through ~/.xsession-errors of the user you're trying to run KDE as
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10:32.43Bug2000Lots of error.
10:32.45Bug2000errors.
10:33.28Skrot-Yeah, a lot of apps output to it, but try to see if there's anything in there complaining about icons/pixmap/etc
10:34.27Bug2000Skrot-: http://pastebin.archlinux.org/7176
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10:34.40Bug2000Thats from first run of a new user.
10:36.00Skrot-okay, those errors probably indicate that it can't find the icons..
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10:36.18Skrot-You might want to ask in the channel of your distro since this is most likely a distro prolem
10:36.46Bug2000I see. Thank you very much for your time.
10:36.55Skrot-No problem
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11:20.57unclemike? is there any different clock applets out there anywhere
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11:24.11Sho_unclemike: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/StyleClock?content=14423 used to be popular
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11:24.38Sho_But there's a whole bunch at www.kde-apps.org - just search for "clock"
11:25.49unclemikeSho_: ok thanks
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11:30.08MitjaI can see remote files mounted by sshfs in shell, but not in Konqueror or Amarok. Permissions are set to the user using konqeror. What else should be done?
11:30.58Sho_FWIW, KDE does have its own facility to access a file system over SFTP, via sftp://
11:32.07MitjaSho_: that works, but when I load a playlist paths to music files are local thus it won't search them on the server
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12:01.10futlibhi, I have some problems when using kconfig. I did a writeEntry("Key","Value") just for testing purposes. but though I did, I cannot find it written to any config file in .kde - am I missing something? Or better: is there an example on how to use kconfig?
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12:04.47PhilRodfutlib: best to ask in #kde-devel if anyone's there. For docs, check developer.kde.org or www.englishbreakfastnetwork.org
12:05.15futlibPhilRod: okay
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12:05.18marv__Is there any chance to speak with wheeler via irc?
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12:06.12Sho_marv__: Scott? 'wheels' on Freenode
12:06.25rootwasup guys?
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12:07.09rootshit :S
12:07.35marv__Sho_, yes Scott, thx
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12:08.36Narishmaare they having network problems in akademy ?
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12:09.36Sho_Narishma: yup
12:10.04Sho_Narishma: Unfortunately - not nice to be so isolated from the action
12:10.29Narishmayeah I found it strange no one bloged from there yet...
12:10.54Narishmahope they fix that soon
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12:11.30Sho_Narishma: Ian Monroe blogged a bit from George Wright's hotel room, see the Amarok blog
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12:29.56joss193kwrite &> /dev/null actually works
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12:30.18tbscopejoss193: run kdebugdialog
12:30.37joss193hmm no such binary here
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12:31.20tbscopethere's a debugarea file somewhere too. The kdebugdialog program lets you enable or disable debug areas
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12:33.27joss193tbscope: ok nice
12:33.52joss193tbscope: tell me when you located the file, will search for a package
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12:34.34tbscopeI don't locate anything. Your pc, your responsibility to search for the package. I don't even know what operating system you're running
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12:35.53joss193tbscope:i know, i ment that file, package i can find myself
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12:37.53joss193tbscope: ok found , thanks
12:38.01tbscopeOn gentoo it's here: /usr/kde/3.5/share/config/kdebug.areas
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12:50.36gourdinomg
12:50.43gourdinhuge problem with fonts
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12:50.56gourdin:/
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12:57.19gourdinevery app got another font config
12:57.21gourdinwhere is located the font config of kde ?
12:57.23gourdinI have to erase it
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12:57.37gourdinafter playing with randr, everything is messed up
12:58.03tbscopeProbably in ~/.kde/share/...
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12:58.46gourdintbscope: yep, probably :)
12:58.56PhilRodgourdin: you probably want ~/.kde/share/config/kdeglobals, but don't delete it (just rename it)
12:59.13PhilRodit might not be the source of your problem, and it might contain other config that you want to keep
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12:59.36gourdinPhilRod: I never rm configs :)
12:59.38gourdinthx for the path
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13:04.21gourdinPhilRod: I renamed kdeglobal
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13:04.35gourdinkonqueror does have a smaller font as my other apps
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13:04.47gourdinand if I restart kde, i got some other font in konsole
13:04.52gourdinthis is weird
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13:07.53strawdamn. ktorrent (2.1.4) seems to cause something similar to http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=140768
13:07.58[GALAXY]gourdin: define "as my other apps" what apps are we talkin about ?
13:08.10gourdin[GALAXY]: konsole
13:08.46gourdinas I look at my desktop, every apps seems to have size 8, kicker 9 and konsole 9
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13:09.16PhilRodgourdin: perhaps a screenshot would make it clearer
13:09.27gourdinPhilRod: yep :)
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13:11.29gourdinhttp://www.lanterne.org/fontSizeProblem.jpg
13:11.45Sho_403
13:11.53strawForbidden
13:11.57gourdinSho_: you are fast :)
13:12.04gourdinstraw: too
13:12.07gourdinit's ok now
13:12.23gourdinI highlighted the kdeglobal menufont config
13:13.22gourdinAs I'm lookin at the screenshot, I can see that gwenview got the "konsole font size"
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13:16.04gourdinhmmm, it seems that my Xserver got a problem, DRI wont be enebled
13:16.33gourdinperhaps a weird state of the gfx driver cause a dpi problem too
13:16.38gourdinI'll try a reboot
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13:17.32alesanhi is there a sounf theme after star trek?
13:17.35alesansound
13:17.57alesantried to search on kde-look but it seems it's only about "graphical" themse
13:18.16Sho_If there isn't, you could make one from the sound files in this .deb: http://synthesize.us/debs/lcars-sounds_1.1.deb
13:18.32Sho_or from http://www.lcarscom.net/sounds.htm
13:20.20alesanok thanks...
13:20.30Sho_if you do, upload it to kde-look :)
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13:21.31alesanit seems there is already something related to LCARS on kde-look
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13:24.13gourdinit was my Xserver
13:24.43gourdinthe gfx driver was in a weird state (dri wasn't loaded, that's why I check the Xorg log)
13:24.47gourdinreboot
13:24.54gourdineverything is ok (as before)
13:25.01gourdinthx for the feedback
13:25.32gourdinPhilRod: what is r658k ?
13:25.56gourdin(you confirmed a bug I reported 147399)
13:25.56PhilRodsvn revision 658000
13:26.06gourdinok
13:26.20PhilRodI haven't updated svn for a while though, so it's not the latest version
13:26.27gourdin'k
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13:26.32gourdin3.X branch or kde 4?
13:26.37PhilRod3.5.x
13:26.42gourdinok
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13:32.53litbgourdin: do you use intel?
13:33.32litbthe i810 driver?
13:34.32litbhm, how can i use the smplayer themes within smplayer?
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13:35.12Q-collectivesmplayer? Oh man, that opens a whole can of worms :)
13:36.15litbsmplayer is good
13:36.15Sho_Q-collective: "smplayer" is also a somewhat unfortunate naming choice
13:36.26Q-collectiveindeed it is
13:36.28Q-collective^_^
13:37.17litbonly the menu items are too height
13:38.46litband the audio/video synchronization is odd
13:39.05litbi think i have played with them a bit, but now i don't know how i can reset those experiments i made
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13:39.55Sho_doo be doo be doo
13:39.58Sho_what a slow sunday
13:40.26NyleI have the worst case of Heartburn Ever!!
13:40.33Nylewhat do I do?
13:41.05Sho_Going by the name, installing DrKonqi might help
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13:41.47Nylelol
13:42.31NullAcht15_Hi, anyone here using KDE on a Sun machine? I was wondering how to define a keyboard shortcut for the "On/Off" switch on the keyboard
13:42.41litbemacs psychotherapist could help you dude
13:42.56strawNyle: install peptobismal
13:44.41NyleI drank some about an hour ago
13:44.46NyleI don't feel better at all
13:44.57NyleI drank a mouthful
13:45.05Nyledidn't measure it.. what else can I do
13:45.07strawwhat's the easiest way to convert .wav to .ogg?
13:45.18Nylestraw: I will tell you if you help me get better
13:45.29straw*shrug* drink more?
13:45.36Nylefine, ask someone else then
13:45.45strawdoh...
13:45.53Nylej/k
13:46.12NyleI have no idea
13:46.12Sho_straw: have a look at http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=29024
13:46.15Nylehere is a really long way to do it
13:46.21NullAcht15_straw: oggenc
13:46.25Nyleimport in audacity, and save as ogg
13:46.34strawahh oggenc
13:46.45NullAcht15_oggenc is a command line toolthough
13:46.54NullAcht15_But really easy to use
13:47.17NullAcht15_see the man page
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13:51.30strawNullAcht15_: thanks, got it. for i in "*.wav"; do oggenc $i -q 6; done  :)
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13:57.16piccaanyone had any issues with the power monitor in kde 3.5.7 - i can't get the icon to appear on the taskbar
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14:01.25NullAcht15_hm another question maybe: I have the problem that artsd doesn't run on my machine (keeps crashing on startup), but I really want to use juk. I've heard that juk can theoretically also work without arts, using some other backend, but since I can't even start it now, I don't know how to configure it that way. Can anyone help me with that?
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14:03.06jack_Hi, is there anyway in Konqueror to get the menu options Tools>Open Terminal? Ive seen it on other installs before, but its missing in my distro :( Is there an extension plugin or something
14:04.00Sho_Ten bucks says you're using Kubuntu
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14:04.48jack_:) yes i am
14:04.53jack_is that a bad thing?
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14:05.30Sho_Not necessarily
14:05.39Sho_But they do change Konqueror's menus considerably
14:06.05jack_wonder how hard it is to hack it back in
14:06.27Sho_Best ask in #kubuntu
14:06.41jack_ok thanks
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14:33.06l0ckxi just upgraded from Fedora Core 6 to Fedora 7 and for some reason, when i right-click on file, there is no longer an option to "copy to" or "move to" which i thought was standard in KDE
14:33.33l0ckxis there any way i can enable this feature...if it is disabled??
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14:35.58l0ckxahh, using KDE 3.5
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14:36.25GreatLordHi
14:36.29GreatLordI got a question
14:36.35Sho_l0ckx: You're missing the "kuick" plugin from kdeaddons
14:36.37GreatLordabout qt
14:36.54l0ckxThanks Sho
14:37.00GreatLordif a close source apps using qt in windows
14:37.03l0ckxi'll install package kdeaddons
14:37.05GreatLordwhich licen it is ?
14:37.07Sho_l0ckx: If you install it, you'll get a "Quick Copy & Move" tab in KControl -> KDE Components -> File Manager where you can enable and configure it
14:37.36Sho_GreatLord: Trolltech's commercial license, which allows closed source development
14:37.46l0ckxi think some of my SCIM functionality is being effected from not installing a lot of the KDE pacakges
14:38.13l0ckxi tried to create a "lite" system....but not installing the things i thought i didn't need...but it's ending up being more of a hassle
14:38.22GreatLordI found a dll call qt_mt312.dll
14:38.41l0ckxThanks Sho_
14:38.45GreatLordcan I assume it is from qtwin ?
14:38.53Sho_GreatLord: looks like it, yup
14:38.54GreatLordthat is under gpl ?
14:39.16Sho_GreatLord: Qt 3 for Windows is not available under the GPL, only Trolltech's commercial license
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14:39.35Sho_GreatLord: Starting with Qt v4, Qt is available under the GPL for all supported platforms, including Windows
14:39.36GreatLordand how can I tell which close source apps I found and using qt_mt.dll
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14:40.12GreatLordand relay the info
14:40.26GreatLordfor more closer check if they break any rules
14:40.52Sho_GreatLord: Again, Trolltech makes Qt for Windows available under a commercial license which allows for closed source development
14:41.03Sho_GreatLord: That's kind of how Trolltech pays the bills, you know ;)
14:41.37l0ckxwould anybody be able to tell my why my SCIM is resetting my configuration back to the default, every time i log out and then log back in ?
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15:24.05umikaelhello
15:27.05kendrickhrm
15:27.07umikaeli'm using kate 2.5.6 on KDE 3.5.6 with html syntax highligthing, but the highlight is not present, only the + signs for tag groups, is this the only highligth present in html plugin ?
15:27.16kendrickis there a way to tell browsers (e.g., konq) to scale an SVG when you <embed> it?
15:27.24kendrickwidth and height just clip it to a viewport
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15:30.26umikaelkendrick, what is a 'SVG' ?
15:30.39kendrick*blink*
15:30.50RushPLen.wikipedia.org/wiki/SVG
15:31.22kendrickhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SVG  http://www.svg.org/  http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/
15:31.26RushPLkendrick: I suppose you could do some scripting
15:31.31kendrickgerf
15:32.03RushPLyou can edit SVG properties with DOM
15:32.25RushPLdunno about Konq, but FF has that GreaseMonkey addon.
15:32.33RushPLOpera has user scripts.
15:33.13NullAcht15_I just noticed how one of the sample svgs on the wikipedia page is rendered completely wrong in Konqueror
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15:34.12umikaelthe guys in wikipedia are using height and width
15:34.29NullAcht15_This one: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Diamond-caution.svg (the big picture is a png, click on the link to the svg below it to sse the difference)
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15:36.35kendrickblah, i'll deal with it later. thx :)
15:36.52NullAcht15_Firefox renders it nearly, but not quite, correctly
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15:39.14Vystrix_Nexothlooks fine in Opera.
15:39.22Vystrix_Nexothnote that the exclamation point is text, not hard-wired.
15:39.52NullAcht15_yepp. I noticed. It's probably a font problem in FF
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15:40.31NullAcht15_... but in Konqueror it only renders a solid black rectangle...
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15:42.12strawkde3's svg handling is less than spectacular
15:44.40NullAcht15_Is it going to be better in KDE 4?
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15:45.00superstonedwell webkit is supposed to do better, and it's gonna be in Qt 4.4. Trolltech also pledged to support it, and get a kpart with proper KDE integration (KIO slaves, kwallet) so yeah, kde 4 is probably gonna use webkit, and have better svg support...
15:46.45NullAcht15_hm, wasn't it said recently that newer khtml versions are much better than webkit at rendering HTML and particularly CSS?
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15:48.29Sho_NullAcht15_: Regardless of WebKit, Qt 4 has a good SVG renderer (Qt 3 didn't, which is why we wrote KSVG), which will be heavily used throughout KDE 4
15:49.26stonedhey
15:49.31stonedI was just reading about pakistan
15:49.49stonedits a pretty cool country man, they have atomic bombs and stuff too
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15:52.38Narishmastoned: what does that have to do with kde ?
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15:54.18NullAcht15_Sounds like his nick can be taken literally
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15:54.38kendrickheh
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15:54.42stonedpeople in kde use pakistan
15:54.56Tanjahi
15:54.56stonedand I myself contribute to the kde in Urdu localizing project
15:55.07stonedurdu is the pakistan language
15:55.09stonedyou know
15:55.25stonedTanja: hi
15:55.35icwiener<stoned> people in kde use pakistan
15:55.36anisfarhanaurdu and pustoo
15:55.38icwiener:)
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15:55.45stonedoh
15:55.47stonedhaha
15:55.59stonedomg hehe
15:56.04umikaeldid anyone use kate with html syntax highlighting ?
15:56.30stonedwell, pahtu, sindhi, balochi, punjabi, sirayeki, gujrati, hindi
15:56.34NullAcht15_umikael, I'm using it regularly at work, with PHP+HTML highlighting
15:56.51umikaelgood idea, let me try this scenario
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15:57.15stonedI mean
15:57.19stonedpeople is pakistan use kde
15:57.58umikaelNullAcht15, i have no syntax highlight for HTML, the rest are ok, for C, XML, but for HTML nothing
15:58.28umikaeli searched for a clue, and i think the html plugin is not for highlight, just for tag groups
15:58.49stonedyou see wiener?
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15:58.55stonedwhat a crazy nickname
15:58.57stonedhehe
15:59.03stonedi c weiners!
15:59.10stonedno, I just see dead people
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15:59.17icwienerstoned: I just saw that tou mistyped again. :P
15:59.20NullAcht15_umikael, have you tried goiing through the extras menu and enabling  HTML highlighting wherever you find it?
15:59.25icwienerdammit :)
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16:00.09icwienerstoned: Yeah, it's taken from futurama.
16:00.22stonedhehe
16:00.23NullAcht15_umikael, for me it just worked out of the box, all I had to do was open a file with a .php or .html extension
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16:00.25umikaelNullAcht15, i enabled it in Tools>Highligthing
16:00.39NullAcht15_umikael, what distro are you using?
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16:00.51umikaelOpenBSD 4.1
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16:01.27NullAcht15_Does OpenBSD package KDE in some way or have you compiled it manually?
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16:01.42umikaelNullAcht15, can you post somewhere the content of your html.xml file used in katepart for highligth?
16:01.53stonedis there  a theme to make my kde look and function like old mac os8 interface?
16:01.57NullAcht15_(I've only ever used OpenBSD on headless server machines)
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16:02.05umikaelNullAcht15, it is prepackaged, no compile on my side
16:02.24NullAcht15_umikael, I'll see if I can find it
16:02.38umikaelbut i did some compare action on c.xml and html.xml, and they are different in sections
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16:03.16NullAcht15_umikael, where is that file usually located?
16:03.44umikaelfor me, it is /usr/local/share/apps/katepart/syntax
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16:06.16pcbshelpi installed gimp, but it wont come in the menu. how do i knoww ot version is installed and how do i run it.
16:06.21NullAcht15_umikael, looks like this over here: http://rafb.net/p/VjWGtp72.html
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16:06.54NullAcht15_umikael, you could also download the official source files for kdebase and see if you find that file in there somewhere
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16:07.23umikaelNullAcht15, it's the same like me
16:07.28umikaellike mine, i mean
16:07.33neopcoi a
16:08.02NullAcht15_in that case I don't know why it wouldn't work
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16:08.12pcbshelpcan anyone help.
16:08.26umikaeli tried the php file, it works but ONLY for php tags, the HTML are not highlighted
16:08.33pinotreepcbshelp: nope, gimp is not a kde application
16:08.44pcbshelphow do i run it from run menu.
16:08.45pinotreesorry - please ask in the gimp channel
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16:09.13umikaelNullAcht15, do you see colored HTML tags or just tag groups marked by + sign and a vertical line ?
16:09.18NullAcht15_pcbshelp, Press Alt-F2, enter gimp, press Enter
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16:09.57NullAcht15_umikael, nope, colored html tags with different colors for tagnames, atrributes, attribute values and so on
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16:10.05pcbshelpnothing runs NullAcht15 but i see an icon changing suggesting its installed?
16:10.39NullAcht15_pcbshelp, did you click run afterwards or press Enter?
16:11.04umikaelpcbshelp, open a terminal and type gimp, then see the error messages
16:11.06pcbshelpi pressed run
16:11.29pcbshelp/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libintl.so.6" not found, required by "gimp"
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16:11.34pcbshelpin konsole
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16:11.54umikaelpcbshelp, how did you installed gimp?
16:12.13pcbshelpi used the inbuilt package manager, but it uses ports to install it anyway.
16:12.16pcbshelpdesktopbsd.
16:12.20umikaelit looks like a dependency is not present
16:12.26NullAcht15_pcbshelp, okay, something's wrong with your gimp installation. Since this isn't a problem with starting gimp from kde anymore, I suggest you head to the channel of your distro or to the gimp channel
16:12.40pcbshelpok.
16:13.05NullAcht15_hm, libintl is a pretty important library isn't it?
16:15.04umikaeli remember it is used alot
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16:16.23NullAcht15_I may be wrong, but i think I've read something somewhere that in newer versions of glibc, this is part of libc, so there's no need to link with libintl anymore...
16:17.32umikaeli don't know, dependecies are handled automatically for me
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16:22.57umikaelstrange thing , all the *.xml files for kate highlighting have list with keywords, but the ones for html, sgml don't
16:26.12Vystrix_Nexothumikael: well, HTML/SGML/XML don't really need arbitrary lists of keywords. it can look for specific ones, but otherwise it's just element names, attribute values, and so forth.
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16:27.47umikaelall i am able to see as a highligth are + signs for tag groups and DOCTYPE written in red, all the tags remaining are not colored :(
16:28.45umikaeland nobody is complaining in disscusion groups, just to find the solution ...
16:31.44ferret_0567Open Terminal is a big deal for me
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16:32.06ferret_0567how do I add that to the right click on kdesktop desktop menu?
16:33.03NullAcht15_ferret_0567, I don't the answer, but isn't it sufficient to just add it to the panel?
16:33.17NullAcht15_don't=don't know
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16:33.34strawferret_0567: it's 'hard-coded' afaik
16:34.42ferret_0567ok
16:34.51ferret_0567I'll add it to the panel
16:34.57ferret_0567I might change the code later
16:35.02ferret_0567a small hack
16:35.11ferret_0567nothing much
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16:35.21NullAcht15_Anyone here using KDE on a Sun machine? I was wondering how to define a keyboard shortcut for the "On/Off" switch on the keyboard
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16:36.09PhilRodNullAcht15_: if xev can see it, you can set a shortcut for it - see the user guid
16:36.11PhilRodguide*
16:36.29NullAcht15_PhilRod, which userguide?
16:36.36PhilRodthe one on docs.kde.org
16:36.45PhilRodor help:/khelpcenter/userguide in konqueror
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16:37.17pcbshelpferret_0567: , the right click desktop menu can be changed to right click CUSTOM MENU. if you look at "behaviour"  after u click configure desktop
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16:37.53NullAcht15_thanks, I'll do that PhilRod
16:38.37pcbshelpits under "mouse button options"
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16:39.00strawholy... thanks pcbshelp. i've never noticed that
16:39.09pcbshelp:)
16:40.08NullAcht15_(btw, it does show up in xev)
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16:46.52MitjaThere's a fascinating thing happening when I set the clock. I violently logs me out. And sometimes the clock is back running the old time again. Also the time is again wrong if I reboot. What to do to fix this?
16:47.49ericPi was configuring konsole's key bindings and was warned that i was stealing the key for the global function "Manually Invoke Action on Current Clipboard"
16:48.12PhilRodMitja: sounds like some weird time skew thing. Does the same happen if you set the clock with the 'date' command/
16:48.13ericPthat got me curious. what's that do?
16:48.33PhilRodericP: it's a klipper function - take a look at the klipper docs
16:48.46ericPPhilRod, roger -- tx
16:48.52MitjaPhilRod: haven't tried it yet...
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16:54.01MitjaPhilRod: it doesn't log me out, but kde clock adds two hours to the original setting
16:54.21Mitjadate shows 18:54, kde clock 20:54
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16:55.31Mitjaok this is weird
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16:55.54Mitjadate and time dialog window displays the correct time, but the clock in the trash is two hours ahead
16:56.53PhilRodthat's just a UTC/local time thing
16:56.55MitjaI mean in the sys ashtray
16:57.23PhilRod"man date" probably explains it
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16:58.50Mitjadate is correct
16:58.58Mitjasystray is wrong
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17:04.02PhilRodoh, plus you can manually set the timezone for the systray clock. You've probably just set it to the wrong one
17:04.37Mitjahow do i do that'
17:04.39Mitja?
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17:05.46icwienerMitja: Rightclick the clock and have a look at the context menu. There is a submenu called "set timezone" or so.
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17:06.46Mitjaicwiener: that's set correctly
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17:06.58drzedhi there!
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17:07.36drzed(how) can i control the front and the size of a font when printing ab website?
17:08.21drzedat the moment prining websites i.e. wikipedie results in an unreadable small font/printout
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17:10.52Tanjahi
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17:11.41Mitjahey Tanja
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17:12.30Tanjalet me gues:you are from Russia
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17:12.44Mitjano
17:13.34Tanjaoh something new.where are you from
17:13.46Mitjaslo
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17:14.00Mitjau?
17:14.08Tanjaserbia
17:14.28Mitjazdravo
17:14.59Tanjazdravo 8-)
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17:16.35Mitjahow are things?
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17:28.09Tanjanot bad nothing new
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17:31.03MitjaPhilRod: seems to be working ok now, after ln -sf /usr/share/zoneinfo/<localtime> /etc/localtime
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17:40.32mikkaelis it normal that firefox progress bars dont work on kde ?
17:40.47litbmikkael: no
17:41.02mikkaeli installed it from getswiftfox.com
17:41.13litbperhaps you have some weird style for gtk, like QtCurve or gtk-qt
17:41.17mikkaelalso tried it from ubunturepos, but i dont get the scrolbars to work :/
17:41.18Mitjatry getfirefox.com
17:41.25litbwith gtk-qt being the worst
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17:41.31mikkaelmy style is plastik
17:41.33litbQtCurse is quite good though
17:41.39mikkaeloh for gtk, lets see
17:42.01Sho_QtCurve, actually, not Curse ;)
17:42.02litbtr s v
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17:43.05litbdamn you were some nanosecs faster
17:43.17mikkaelhmm do i need to install qt4 config or qt3 config to set the qt theme thats used by gtk apps
17:43.35litbwhat?
17:43.45litbqt themes ar enot used by gtk apps by definition
17:43.51litb*are
17:44.00mikkaelin kcontrol you can decide what kde uses for gtk apps
17:44.10litbinstall gtk-qt . you get a nice control in kcontrol then
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17:44.14mikkael"kde's style" or ""qt"
17:44.19mikkaelah cool
17:44.20litbthere you can choose the gtk style then
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17:44.33Sho_mikkael: If you install gtk-qt-engine, it will place a "GTK Styles and Fonts" page in KControl which allows you to select the GTK theme
17:44.53litbnow i was faster :P
17:45.02Sho_mikkael: If you chose "KDE's style" or "Qt" (they're equivalent), it will use the style you set for KDE
17:45.25harmonyHello. Where can I configure custom shortcuts for KDE?
17:45.30mikkaelok, ill try something there
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17:45.52Sho_harmony: KControl -> Regional & Accessibility -> Input Actions
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17:46.21harmonySho_ : Thanks, I've been using only GNOME and so I didn'y know
17:46.41Sho_harmony: No problem, that's why we're here =)
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17:48.31mikkaelcan you recommend a gtk style ? at the moment i can use only raleigh or so
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17:49.12Sho_Not in #kde, no ;)
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17:49.25kucrutanyone know of any kde point-of-sale app?
17:50.03Sho_kucrut: sadly, no ... at one time I would have been interested too
17:50.07mikkaelthere are so many gtk styles available, dont want to download em all
17:50.18litbclearlooks rocks
17:50.23kucrutooh
17:50.39kucrutSho_: know of any good php/web based one?
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17:51.00Sho_kucrut: nope
17:51.03litbi don't know what a point-of-sale is
17:51.12Sho_kucrut: I eventually resigned to the fact that I wouldn't be able to actually use them anyhow
17:51.22Sho_kucrut: Because legislation here requires certified solutions
17:51.28mikkaelokay
17:51.35kucrutlitb: germany, right?
17:51.41kucrutSho_: ^^
17:51.44Sho_kucrut: yep
17:52.15kucrutSho_: nice improvements in yakuake :)
17:52.16strawlitb: software that runs a pc-based cash register
17:52.29strawamong other things
17:52.37Sho_kucrut: :)
17:52.49litbwhat is new to yakuake since the last beta?
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17:53.40Sho_litb: Couple of bugfixes mostly; the final release will land soon
17:54.04harmonyHello. How do I add a custom shortcut key that turns up the volume when I press that key. Also, that key I want to press is a special button on a laptop.
17:54.05mikkaelwell theres qtcurve for gtk too :)
17:54.34Sho_litb: see http://websvn.kde.org/branches/extragear/kde3/utils/yakuake/ChangeLog?revision=678810&view=markup
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17:55.23kucrutharmony: try the "configure global shortcuts" in kmix
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17:55.41jacekowskiyakuake+compositing_wm_or_transparancy crashes xorg
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17:56.36litbnot here
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17:57.02harmonykucrut: It tells me to input a shortcut key. any normal key such as QWERTY etc. is accepted, but I press the additional button on the laptop without inputing it. in gnome it wouold assign it
17:57.12litbberyl never crashes here
17:57.24litband i use yakuake very intensively
17:57.30litbneither does Xorg
17:57.47kucrutharmony: so the button is working in gnome but nut in kde?
17:58.04harmonyyes, in gnome it says the button is called something like 0x0ae
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17:58.05jacekowskido cat /dev/urandom
17:58.10jacekowskion one console
17:58.19jacekowskiswitch to other and close yakuake
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17:58.35litbthat's dangerous
17:58.43jacekowskiwhy?
17:58.45litbsince the terminal interpretes certain sequences
17:58.51jacekowskiso
17:58.59kucrutharmony: try 'cat' in konsole and then press the button, what do you get?
17:59.12litbi don't know which sequences so i don't do it :D
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17:59.22jacekowskirun any program that makes any output
17:59.33jacekowskiie. cat /dev/urandom
17:59.35litbfor example it can beep, change certain line settings, speed etc..
17:59.39litbi don't know whatelse
17:59.47litbi have bash running
17:59.48harmonykucrut: doesn't show up. I press the button. on the laptop, the button lights up, but cat show nothing
17:59.55jacekowskiso run hmmmmm
18:00.10litbfor(;;); do echo Haha; done
18:00.23litberro (( and )) , not ( and )
18:00.23jacekowskihmm this will be ok
18:00.50litbit runs fine
18:01.29litbi hold f12 down all the time. and the yakuake window gets really nervous. but no crash
18:01.29kucruthmm
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18:02.04jacekowskiswitch to other tan
18:02.06jacekowskitab*
18:02.17jacekowskiand then hide
18:02.17litbyes
18:02.34jacekowskiX -version?
18:02.38kucrutharmony: no idea then, sorry. my toshiba buttons are working fine with fnfx
18:02.47litbno crash
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18:03.46Sho_jacekowski: I've heard such crash reports, but there's little I can do about it ... what Yakuake does is unusual, but not illegal, and Xorg shouldn't crash
18:03.48harmonykucrut: hmm, well thanks anyway mate
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18:05.25litbjacekowski: you use the beta?
18:06.09Sho_Yakuake also uncovered a crash bug in kwin
18:06.23jacekowski7.0 crashing 7.1 crashing 7.2 crashing
18:06.24Sho_It's simply an unusual app that finds bugs others don't
18:06.51jacekowski1.2.0-r3
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18:07.56jacekowskihttp://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=158395
18:08.11litbit could be a bug in freetype perhaps
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18:15.12litbi really get no crash at all with stable intel drivers
18:15.24litbeven if i do ls -R / or cat /dev/urandom
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18:15.43litbhowever i can recall that it crashed sometimes with nvidia drivers
18:15.48litbso could be a driver problem
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18:17.13litbhmm, i have to say i like the hide/show effect applied to yakuake
18:19.22Sho_litb: It's an important part of the experience ;)
18:20.08litbi mean the one beryl or other comp. manager applies to it.
18:20.19litbsome ppl doesn't like them
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18:21.06litbin facti disable the yakuake-own roll effect but enabled the beryl zoom effect to have yakuake zoom from the mouse pointer into its place
18:21.10litbthat looks really great
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18:23.16logixoulSho_: btw: to be authentic you'd have to zoom in YaKuake vertically, rather than just slide it :)
18:23.25logixoulbut, close enough :)
18:23.58Sho_logixoul: Depends on the Quake version I guess ;)
18:24.24logixoulah. my reference "version" is openarena :-)
18:24.56Sho_logixoul: Quake 1 and 2 used a slide iirc
18:25.11logixoulah k.
18:25.24Skrot-It did, atleast Quake 2 did
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19:08.40piccaanyone had problems here with the power battery meter not showing in kde 3.5.7
19:08.53piccait worked on 3.5.6, but since upgrading i can't get it to appear
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19:11.21HanzZcan i user crystal icons in my QT app licensed as GPL?
19:11.25HanzZ*use
19:11.51Sho_HanzZ: yup
19:12.51HanzZthanks
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19:17.17litbcan one use crystal icons in commercial apps too?
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19:19.52Dr_PsYhi
19:19.54Dr_PsYwhere can i change de charset in kde ?
19:20.19Dr_PsYi changed the localitation options, but the charset doesn't work
19:21.18jacekowskilocale
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19:21.23jacekowskiand kde-i18n
19:21.37Dr_PsYthe locale is well set
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19:22.01Dr_PsYi can see all correct with thunar or nautilus, but no with kde programs like konqueror or k3b
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19:22.57Dr_PsYand I gues the i18n is correct too
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19:46.34Schuenemannwhat do I need to watch rmvb? Kaffeine gives me an error about initialization of drvc.so libraries
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19:52.29eNTiwho's "in charge" of knotes?
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19:53.12eNTii'd have some ideas how to improve it
19:53.19eNTi-> bugs.kde.org?
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20:00.11bram85eNTi: yes, but check if it hasn't been reported before
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20:03.36eNTikk
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20:10.53cccSchuenemann: real media codecs probably
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20:11.21Schuenemannccc, what do I need?
20:11.52cccSchuenemann: better ask your distro channel for the package
20:12.14Schuenemanndoesn't the package have a generic name?
20:13.03Skrot-no
20:13.37Schuenemannyou know the name to kubuntu?
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20:16.19Freddy2hi
20:16.21DexterFSchuenemann: w32codecs
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20:16.44SchuenemannDexterF, SeveasPackages?
20:16.44DexterFadd multiverse and medibuntu repositories
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20:16.53DexterFSchuenemann: what?
20:17.06Freddy2is there any way to see the apps from all desktops when you're using more than 1 and you press alt+tab?
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20:17.33Vystrix_NexothFreddy2: depends on what DE or WM (not sure which one is relevant) you're using.
20:17.37SchuenemannDexterF, I'll add medibuntu
20:18.21Vystrix_Nexoth...which would be relevant if this weren't #kde, and I thought it wasn't. never mind me. ^^;;
20:18.22Freddy2i suppose it's kwin
20:18.32Vystrix_Nexothin too many damn channels
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20:18.57shwouchkhi
20:18.58shwouchkhow do I associate a protocol with a program in firefox or otherwise? (for instance irc:// with konversation)?
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20:19.33Freddy2shwouchk: probably that's not the best channel for this.. try #firefox@irc.mozilla.org
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20:20.03shwouchkFreddy2: well, I thought I could do it in the entire kde
20:20.12shwouchkso that itll also work in konq
20:20.36Freddy2you're asking for firefox.. it has no relation with kde
20:23.51shwouchkheh
20:23.55shwouchkhelp troll?
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20:26.08iaNK-Whats a "Swap Partition"?
20:26.25Schuenemannpartition used for virtual memory
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20:28.08pvandewyngaerdelike pagefile.sys on windows, but a whole partition
20:29.20SchuenemannDexterF, I can't watch them, but no sound
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20:31.48DexterFwhat now, Schuenemann you _cant_ watch _and_ have no sound?
20:32.00Schuenemannsorry
20:32.05SchuenemannI CAN watch them
20:32.09Schuenemann=)
20:32.11DexterFother files have sound?
20:32.42Schuenemannyes, mp4
20:32.43Schuenemannmp3*
20:32.49SchuenemannI have libxine-extracodecs
20:33.15DexterFusing xine or kaffeine?
20:33.31Schuenemannkaffeine
20:33.38shwouchkis there any way I can set what irc:// starts in kde apps?
20:33.45SchuenemannI only installed w32codecs, but that are other upgradeable packages from medibuntu
20:34.36DexterFhm. odd. codec thing, I avoid real whereever I can. try mplayer or vlc, see if if they do it, xine (backend behind kaffeine) has always had issues with realplayer files. otherwise try #kubuntu. think there's a spanish chan, too
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20:40.47SchuenemannDexterF, why would I want a spanish channel? :-p
20:41.03shwouchkis there any way I can set what irc:// starts in kde apps?
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20:41.15DexterFSchuenemann: didn't I trace you to spain...?
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20:41.47Schuenemannyou did?
20:41.54DexterFah, brazil rather
20:42.20Schuenemannwhat kind of voyeur are you?
20:42.23Schuenemann=]
20:43.09DexterFI'm the kind of guy who's been around here for 8 years and check on people so I can point them to appropriate channels ;)
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20:43.23H4X8 years!
20:43.24Schuenemannheh ok
20:43.41SchuenemannI'll try to upgrade the other packages before requesting any more help
20:43.52DexterFH4X: its 2007, isn't it...? then yes.
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20:45.28H4Xi am sure you are now an op here , right? (8 years one channel is really long time!)
20:45.35H4Xon one*
20:45.46DexterFH4X: actually my head is what hurts from the n00bs on #kubuntu :D
20:46.05H4XLOL
20:46.14H4XDont kill me , i changed my OS to UBUNTU ;)
20:46.14DexterFOps on freenode? heck no I try to have a life actually :)
20:46.27H4Xgreat for you , most ppl on irc dosnt have one
20:47.09H4XBtw , i really dont see why people using ubuntu as their first distro when they move to linux (maybe coz they are offering free cds or somethings)
20:47.23DexterFits fairly easy to use
20:47.38DexterFtho i think gnome sucks, I use kub rather.
20:47.50DexterFmy opinion
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20:48.17Thorn[21:47] <DexterF> gnome sucks
20:48.19Thornso true
20:48.21Thorn:P
20:48.28H4Xi moved to #ubuntu yesterday after i get pissed on on Gentoo and LFS
20:48.38H4Xbut to tell you the truth i dont like gnome too
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20:48.54DexterFLFS... I kinda did that, too - slackware. has a package manager tho :)
20:48.58ThornI feel that gnome is... incomplete
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20:49.05H4X(Thats why i am using xfce for now) , KDE is taking alots of my ram thats why i am not going to use it on this laptop
20:49.19DexterFxfce 4.4 is really neat.
20:50.01H4Xyup , you know what is more neat? (the way it takes you to relaize you cant select your items on your disktop without using your keyboard!)
20:50.04DexterFthe applets are even more useful than in kde imo.
20:50.36H4Xthe good thing in it , thats it doesnt take alots of rams , but anyone i ended up with Gnome + Beryl (dont know why i did that) but i did it ;P
20:51.05ThornBeryl is failing for me :(
20:51.10ThornDesktop cube only works as root
20:51.17Thornand i compared the settings, they are exact
20:51.28H4Xits working fine on this laptop (its not good and its working really fasT!) even windows 3.1 wont work this fasT!
20:51.42H4XThorn whats your os?
20:51.47ThornCurrently, Sabayon
20:51.49ThornGentoo based
20:51.52iaNK-Sabayon
20:51.54iaNK-Gentoo based
20:51.54iaNK-Too
20:52.03H4XI know its gentoo based and its using beryl ;)
20:52.11DexterFits only eye candy. what's good is dropshadows, makes the desktop a lil clearer, but that's it. not worth the trouble with the current stability and video driver issues
20:52.22ThornI've been through Ubuntu Kubuntu Xandros Arch slackware LinuxGame
20:52.24Thornand alot others
20:53.17H4Xamm , i'v been throw this week on , fedora , LFS , Gentoo , Slackware , Debian , blah blah blah and many others and finaly i decided to see ubuntu (last time i tried it was 4)
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20:54.32H4Xi had alots of things to do
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20:55.04Thornnot many distros take full advantage of my 8core8cpu dual SLI 8800GTX 32gb of ram beast
20:55.16H4XOMG! 8 core and
20:55.17H4X3 GB!
20:55.21iaNK-OMG!
20:55.24iaNK-32GB OF RAM!
20:55.30DexterFyeah right
20:55.31iaNK-INSANE
20:55.33iaNK-.
20:55.34H4XWTF thats even more then 3 GB!
20:55.48iaNK-i thought my computer was great with 2gb!
20:55.51iaNK-and you said 32 GB!
20:55.54iaNK-wtf
20:55.56DexterFthere's no such thing as an 8core-cpu
20:56.02ThornDexterF yes there are
20:56.03H4Xi am sure you need to rebuild a kernel for it to use all of that RAM ;)
20:56.05DexterFhe's fucking with you guys
20:56.12iaNK-i know
20:56.13iaNK-but
20:56.13ThornI see them quite alot in industrial scaled farms
20:56.14iaNK-its
20:56.15H4Xhow much it costs you?!
20:56.15iaNK-really
20:56.16iaNK-funny
20:56.17iaNK-xd
20:56.18H4X;p;
20:56.18H4Xlol
20:56.21Thorn15k
20:56.21H4Xthats really funny
20:56.33H4XThorn are you kidding or saying the truth?
20:56.37Thorn12.395
20:56.39ThornUmmm
20:56.40Schuenemannmy computer can solve chess
20:56.42Thornkidding ?
20:56.46H4X(joking)
20:56.55Thornno
20:56.57Thornits not that
20:57.03Thornbut my comp is close enough to that
20:57.06DexterFmy computer has gone thru an infinite loop. twice.
20:57.17Schuenemannyou're using the chuck norris distro
20:57.31DexterFshh! dont tell! :D
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20:57.46H4XThorn whats are you doing with such pc?!
20:57.50ThornI dont
20:57.53Thorner
20:57.57Thornwell i do
20:57.59Thorni just hide it
20:58.04H4XLOL
20:58.08ThornI help do stuff at GlobalDomination INC
20:58.27ThornWe're pretty close to full preperation of our master plan
20:58.31H4XThorn , you know what?
20:58.40H4Xi start liking you
20:58.47H4Xyour nick looks s3xy and other shits
20:58.54H4Xcan i have root access to your pc? :}
20:59.10Thornnah
20:59.16H4XCome on ;)
20:59.22Thornsure
20:59.31ThornHeres full SSH access
20:59.43H4Xgreat 127.0.1 ?
20:59.46Thornhaha
20:59.49ThornI was just about to say that
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20:59.54Thorn+ another 0 btw
20:59.54H4Xlol , i know
21:00.03H4Xi ate that last zero ;)
21:00.42H4XThorn did you tried KGB arch ?
21:00.52Thornya
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21:00.54Thorner
21:00.56Thornno just arch
21:01.00H4Xlol
21:01.02ThornI installed it
21:01.11Thornand rm -Rf / 'd it
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21:01.23H4Xgo a head and try it (people say thats you can compress 700 MB into 1.4 MB) ;)
21:01.35Thornlol
21:01.44Thorncompression has nothing todo with OS
21:01.55cow_2001can kaddressbook export contacts with only particular variables? for example, only their emails and not their phone numbers
21:01.56H4XLOL , i was talking about KGB arch
21:02.02Thornoh
21:02.11H4X*KGB Archiver*
21:02.18ThornBah
21:02.34H4Xi preffer saying Blah xD
21:02.46Thornbut sheep go bah
21:02.49Thornand i'm scottish
21:02.51Thornso Bah
21:03.00H4Xi am non-scottish
21:03.03H4XSo BLLAAAAAAAAAAAAH
21:03.10ThornYeah, your probably asian
21:03.10Thorn:P
21:03.23H4XLOL , one word and i say MOEEE
21:03.36Thornyou cow
21:03.48Thornwait
21:03.50ThornCows go moo
21:03.51H4X... , Cow is better then cowerd ;)
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21:04.31H4Xthorn i was thinking i wrote that with cats and cows ;) (i mispelled it)
21:04.41H4X*about writting*
21:04.41Thornlol
21:04.43H4XLOL
21:06.30Thorner
21:06.34Thorni think i better go now O_o
21:06.38cow_2001^_^
21:06.49cow_2001maybe if i go to #kontact
21:07.06ThornMilk that!
21:07.14H4Xlol
21:07.14cow_2001but it's a developer channel, so asking questions there is a bad thing to do
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21:07.50Thorner
21:07.53H4X(the is S is typo , but even if it is one its enouch for more then chick) xD
21:07.57ThornWhere is the BootScript normally kept on linux?
21:08.11H4Xdid you tried /boot/ ?
21:08.13cow_2001i guess you don't know if kaddressbook can export only emails and not phonenumbers
21:08.15Thornlol!
21:08.51Thornno its not
21:08.58Thornboot is just a simlink to ..
21:09.08stonedhey
21:09.11stonedhows it goin
21:09.13stonedI'm at work!
21:09.15Thorntherefore in boot is boot in boot in boot in boot in boot and so force
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21:09.27Thornfoarth*
21:09.36stonedforth
21:09.58Thornprintf("Bite me")
21:10.07H4XGreat , we got auto spell checking actived here (hopes no one active gramer checking) xD
21:10.20Thornisnt is Grammar ?
21:10.24Thornisn't*
21:10.26Thorner
21:10.29H4Xhaha
21:10.31ThornIsn't it grammar ?
21:10.45stoneddude
21:10.48H4XNo it isn't grammar.
21:10.50stonedsmoke less pot than me
21:10.51stonedplease
21:10.55stonedyou're burning out
21:11.06H4Xwhich one of us?
21:11.07stonedeven I'm not as bad and I'm stoned all the time
21:11.08stoneddamn
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21:11.15stonedthat dude with the forth
21:11.23ThornWhere is the boot script ?
21:11.23H4Xlol ;)
21:11.27Thornits not in /boot
21:11.33H4X=-> ~.autostart
21:11.35Thornstoned , yes i own the forth
21:11.43ThornI own the forth rail bridge
21:12.02stonedyou're a rail bridge
21:12.03stonedshush
21:12.21ThornSo, where is the boot script?
21:12.36H4X=-> ~.autostart or in one of sessons folder
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21:12.51Thornugh
21:12.52Thornyou sure?
21:13.12H4Xi really didnt understand what is your questions but i am sure from what i said ;)
21:14.08Thornprobably
21:14.11Thornwhere is .autostart?
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21:14.49H4X=-> bash ; cd ~ ; cd .autostart || cd ~.autostart
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21:34.17bram85konqueror proxies: how can i manage that DNS requests are handled by the proxy and not my own box?
21:34.18JoeBlackenHi, how can I change the character encoding in KDE?
21:35.16SchuenemannJoeBlacken, I think that's application-specific
21:35.41Schuenemannyou aren't thinking about changing the KDE encoding to windows encoding, are you?
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21:36.10JoeBlackenSchuenemann, no, but I think my current encoding is not UTF8, and I want to make UTF8
21:36.24Schuenemannoh...
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21:43.21stonedhey
21:43.29stoneddon't call people nerds like its a bad thing
21:43.30stonedman
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21:45.28stonedshe here/
21:45.29stoned?
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21:45.47anisfarhanaim not sure , might be busy
21:45.48canllaithadik gila!
21:45.57anisfarhanaand now she is here
21:46.06canllaithI heard my adik gila ;)
21:46.06anisfarhanahaha
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21:46.12canllaithGood! At work :(
21:46.22anisfarhanaahh
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21:46.57anisfarhanacanllaith: ah ok , just wanna say hi , it's long time not see you around here
21:46.59canllaithapt-get install `apt-cache search 'openoffice.org-style-*'|awk '{print $1}'`
21:47.00canllaithoops
21:47.17canllaith:) Definitely. You can keep talking to me, I am not that busy
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21:47.45anisfarhanacanllaith: aha , i scared if i just disturbing you , hehe kakak gila ;p
21:48.29anisfarhanacanllaith: hope can see you always here :)
21:48.50stonedcanllaith: hi
21:49.01canllaithHey stoned
21:49.07canllaithanisfarhana: yup :)
21:49.08stonedwhats goin on
21:49.30stonedI woke up with the most painful heartburn today
21:49.35canllaith:(
21:49.36anisfarhanacanllaith: i can see you are very busy lately , it's about 1 year
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21:49.46stonedouch
21:49.55stonedanisfarhana: farhana is a beautiful name
21:50.09anisfarhanastoned: do u know what is farhana ?
21:50.14stonedbut anis is a guy name, while farhana is a girls name
21:50.22stonedwhy a nick with two sexes?
21:50.33anisfarhanastoned: you're wrong then :)
21:50.39stonedI don't think I am
21:50.50anisfarhanastoned: where are u come from
21:50.53canllaithNot in her language
21:50.55stonedpakistan
21:51.00anisfarhana:)
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21:51.36stonedAnis is not a girls name afaik, in all my life, I've met hundreds of Anis but no woman named Anis
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21:52.03strawwell now you have
21:52.04stonedI've met tons of women named Farhana but not a guy, guys are named Farhan without the 'a' at the end
21:52.09anisfarhanastoned: unfortunately i'm not from pakistan , and you have to asked my parents to get better explanation for my name
21:52.17stonedanisfarhana: where are you from?
21:52.23stonedturkey?
21:52.23anisfarhanastoned: .MY
21:52.28stonedmy?
21:52.32canllaithmalaysia
21:52.34stonedoh
21:52.39stonedhey cool
21:52.44stonedhow is it down there?
21:52.59stonedI've never been to malaysia
21:53.15stonedthat I do know
21:53.22stonedKuala lampur
21:53.24anisfarhana5.54 am and i still don't get my sleep yet , working at 8.00 am though
21:53.34stonedanisfarhana: what do you do?
21:53.42canllaithand I have the worst bahasa melayu skills ever, right anisfarhana ? :)
21:53.43tuxickcall centre :)
21:53.47stonedah
21:53.55stonedI worke din a few of those
21:53.56anisfarhanacanllaith: no you are doing great on it :D
21:54.03canllaithheh you are too nice
21:54.03stonedCox, AOL, lately Dell
21:54.37stonedanisfarhana: you're muslim?
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21:54.47anisfarhanacanllaith: at least u know bahasa melayu compare to other people , the problem is with me , still not good in english :(
21:54.54canllaithYour English is great.
21:54.57anisfarhanastoned: yes i am a muslim :)
21:55.04stonedanisfarhana: salaamualaikum
21:55.11anisfarhanastoned: wsalam wbt
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21:55.23stonedyou speak well enough
21:55.36canllaithMy Malay is only good for ordering food and asking directions really.
21:55.41anisfarhanastoned: when u want to come here again ?
21:55.43stonedyou have some poor grammar skills but that is to be expected.  When I first came to america my grammar sucked
21:55.59anisfarhanacanllaith: it's Visit Malaysia 2007 for this year
21:56.04canllaithand English is a nasty nasty language
21:56.07canllaithMalay is very consistant.
21:56.14canllaithAt least, my baby-skills have found it to be so far :)
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21:56.22anisfarhanacanllaith <-- cewek ayu
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21:56.44stonedMalay in my language means like, when you boil milk, or heat it up, and let it cool, it gets a thick film of fatty creamy stuff on top, thats called Malay
21:56.48anisfarhanacanllaith: don't tell me u don't know what is 'cewek'
21:56.56stonedthey use that in lots of indian/pakistani sweets
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21:57.19canllaithanisfarhana: no, I do'nt know cewek
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21:57.25stonedbaby skills?
21:57.29stonedyou got kids?
21:57.44canllaithNo as in my ability to speak Malay is akin to that of a 2 year old infant ;)
21:57.44stonedI have no baby skills
21:57.48stonedoh
21:57.57stonedwell I still have no baby skills
21:57.58anisfarhanacanllaith: cewek - girl while ayu is beautiful , so you're beautiful girl ;p
21:57.59canllaithanisfarhana: saya tak faham
21:58.02canllaithahhh
21:58.04stonedI could maybe change a diaper here and there
21:58.09stonedor maybe feel some baby from a bottle
21:58.11stonedbut thats about it
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21:58.13canllaithanisfarhana: I think that word is different in bahasa indonesia
21:58.18anisfarhanacanllaith: cewek isn't malay , it's indonesia lang
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21:58.19stonedfeed*
21:58.21canllaithstoned: I have mad l33t baby skills
21:58.27canllaithanisfarhana: hah then I am doubly stupid for not knowing =)
21:58.29stonedwell yeh
21:58.31stonedcuz you're a girl
21:58.34stonedI'm not
21:59.04stonedyou're genetically programmed to have mad l33t baby skilz0rs
21:59.08canllaithah it is slang!
21:59.13anisfarhanacanllaith: where is uncle bob ?
21:59.24canllaithNot on this IRC
21:59.28anisfarhanai don't see him about 1-2 years
21:59.29stoneduncle bob?
21:59.30canllaithDo you use msn ? I can give you his msn address
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22:00.21anisfarhanastoned: uncle bob and canllaith --> they are first person introduce to me what is KDE in Linux :)
22:00.27stonedahh
22:00.27canllaith:)
22:00.34stonedI thougoht you were gonna say sittin in a tree....
22:00.36stonedhehe
22:00.39canllaithMy ex b/f, actually. Very ex. From a very long time ago.
22:00.43stonedahh
22:00.49stonedso you DID sit in a tree with him
22:00.52stonedhah, I was right
22:00.59anisfarhanastoned: i learn linux from 0 and now at least i know little bit about kde and linux
22:01.07stonedanisfarhana: very good
22:01.12canllaithanisfarhana: he uses jabber and msn. Can give you either if you want.
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22:01.18stonedanisfarhana: the main thing is, do you know how to cook?
22:01.20canllaithon IRC I don't think he's on this server anymore
22:01.32anisfarhanacanllaith: i don't use jabber or msn , can you give me his email address ?
22:01.36*** join/#kde KanRiNiN (n=root@152.160.38.184)
22:01.38canllaithYes. I will ask him if it is ok.
22:01.45qupadahey canllaith, long time no see
22:01.49stonedqupada: !!
22:01.53anisfarhanastoned: hoho..you're funny ;p
22:01.57stonedhey man with the million dollar nickname
22:01.57canllaithqupada: hey you
22:02.00qupadahey stoned.  what's up?
22:02.00KanRiNiNHey, I'm on day two of a 3.5.6 compile.  Has anyone compiled on a lowly pentium-m before?  How long of a time can i expect?
22:02.00AnarkyI there
22:02.07anisfarhanastoned: i even know how to make tosai okay :)
22:02.15stonedanisfarhana: marry me!
22:02.28stonedwell polygamy works in our religion but not in usa
22:02.30stonednevermind
22:02.38canllaithKanRiNiN: Yes. Not two days.
22:02.38stonedhehe
22:02.41stonedhey hey what?!
22:02.48anisfarhananow talking about polygamy with me huh
22:02.53stonedI am?
22:02.56Anarkyisn't everybody at akademy
22:02.57canllaithBad stoned.
22:03.03stonedhey I didn't!
22:03.05KanRiNiNcanllaith: so it should finish soon?  I'm doing a FreeBSD 6.2 compile
22:03.06stonedI'd never!
22:03.35stonedanisfarhana: in our religion I can marry you, and 2 other women, alongside my original wife
22:03.37canllaithKanRiNiN: Totally, yes, it should
22:03.38stonedlegally
22:03.44stonedbut you know, they don't allow that in usa
22:03.57stonedanyway, my woman is more than enough, she could learn how to cook a little more but
22:03.59stonedyou know, its ok
22:04.10anisfarhanastoned: max to 4 wife , i know about it :)
22:04.19KanRiNiNcanllaith: KOffice took the longest.  That itself was a 3 hour ordeal
22:04.21canllaithYeah
22:04.22anisfarhanastoned: but honestly , im going to share my husban with others :)
22:04.32anisfarhana*im not going
22:04.33stonedwhat?
22:04.35stonedoh
22:04.36canllaithheh
22:04.37stonedI was about to say
22:04.39stonedlol damn
22:04.42stonedcount me in
22:04.43stonedlol
22:05.06Anarkylol
22:05.08strawlol
22:05.09stonedbut woudln't it be nice
22:05.14stoned#kde would have a story
22:05.23Anarkystoned: #kde-dating ?
22:05.25stonedthese two came, fell in love with kde, and then in love with each other
22:05.33stonedkde would have a story to tell
22:05.39stonedcanllaith: i see
22:05.43strawi can't even imagine more than one wife...
22:05.44stonedcanllaith: no no no, can' tmove on
22:05.48canllaithhahaha
22:05.52canllaithAnother developer, a while ago.
22:05.57AnarkyI think it would be quite hard for women
22:05.58stonedgege
22:06.11stonedwas it uncle bob?
22:06.16canllaithNo
22:06.18stonedhehe
22:06.24anisfarhanastraw: stoned is good on imagination okay :)
22:06.33strawheh
22:06.34stonedstoned is good on everything
22:06.36injekcionai need a help. I've installed crossover 6 and adobe photoshop 7 on my sabayon .Everything was fine during the installation but when i start my photoshop it starts but in the next few seconds it just close and stop working. 10x a lot
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22:06.53canllaithinjekciona: Probably better to ask either crossover office support or #sabayon
22:06.54evil64hi, how do i get firefox to recognize my kde mime types i cannot open anything with firefox without selecting application to open with first?
22:06.56stonedphotoshop? through wine?
22:07.03stonedoh crossoer
22:07.22stonedshould I roll a joint? or use my pip?
22:07.28stonedpipe*? any votes?
22:07.40Anarkyevil64: right click
22:07.42StealthCPpipe, definitely.
22:07.43stonedwhoah
22:07.46stonedanymore!?
22:07.50canllaithhahaha
22:07.51stonedhaha, word girl
22:07.52Anarkyproperties
22:07.54stonedword!
22:08.23Anarkythen, the little icon with the ... well I don't know what it's called
22:08.24anisfarhanak im going to sleep
22:08.30stonednight
22:08.42Anarkyhowever, there's only one button there
22:08.42Anarkythen choose firefox
22:08.43Sho_evil64: Firefox uses shared-mime, which KDE will adopt in 4.0
22:08.44anisfarhanagud night Mr Polygamy
22:08.48canllaithAnarky: selamat malam adik gila =)
22:09.06Anarkycanllaith: uh ...
22:09.06canllaithoops
22:09.07anisfarhanacanllaith: selamat malam cewek ayu ;p
22:09.12canllaithanisfarhana: selamat malam
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22:09.16Anarkyok
22:09.23canllaithanisfarhana: to sleep - selemat tidur ?
22:09.27stonedselamat in my language means peace
22:09.31stonedgila means wet though
22:09.33cow_2001can kaddressbook export only one field in my contact list? emails but not phone numbers, for example?
22:09.37canllaithThat's why it is a greeting =)
22:09.40anisfarhanacanllaith: selamat tidur , correct :)
22:09.42canllaithah, gila is 'crazy'
22:09.47stonedahh
22:09.49canllaithanisfarhana: selamat tidur :)
22:09.57canllaithShe calls her her crazy big sister and I call her my crazy little sister.
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22:10.07canllaiths/her her/me her/
22:10.28anisfarhanacanllaith: maybe i should call stoned is abang gila LOL ;p
22:10.29stonedwhat happend to renze?
22:10.31canllaithhah
22:10.34stonedanybody know?
22:10.37stonedand annma
22:10.46canllaithconference for annma I imagine
22:10.49Sho_stoned: annma is in Glasgow right now, for the KDE Developer Conference
22:10.49anisfarhanastoned: do you know Renze ?
22:10.59Sho_stoned: As for Renze, dunno ... I was wondering the other day, too
22:11.00stonedyeh
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22:11.41anisfarhanacanllaith , slayerbob , Renze , anmma , Philrod - they are really good!
22:12.19anisfarhanastoned: i still keep in touch with Renze
22:12.27stonedwhere is he?
22:12.32stonedtell him to come back on irc
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22:12.51Sho_canllaith: You're not in Glasgow?
22:12.55anisfarhanastoned: don't know , he want to off for a while using IRC , i guess :)
22:13.18stonedglasgow scotland?
22:13.44anisfarhanastoned: he don't want to use IRC because he just bought ps3! haha :D
22:14.02stonedheh
22:14.04stonedps3 sucks
22:14.04canllaithSho_: No, every second year for me :)
22:14.10stonedxbox sucks too
22:14.11stonedpc rules!
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22:14.14anisfarhanaaaa ok ok , sleep time..
22:14.15anisfarhana-x-
22:14.34stonedanisfarhana: type /mode anisfarhana +sleep
22:14.39stonedinstant dreamland
22:14.47canllaithSho_: I can't take the time off work at the moment, there's just too much on
22:15.09Sho_canllaith: yeah, same here :/ it's either the timing or the money that doesn't work out, every time
22:15.18canllaithExactly
22:15.29canllaithAlthough you could get sponsored surely
22:15.46stonedI hate work
22:15.48stonedfuck work man
22:15.53Sho_I'd be happy to have an Akademy in Germany again, although I think we really need to try and do one in NA some time for the exposure
22:15.56stonedI hate any job
22:16.08stonedwork takes too much time away from the things I want to do
22:16.14stonedthen again, to eat, you must work
22:16.15stonedits bullshit man
22:16.18stonedI tell ya
22:17.33stonedI can't
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22:17.48stonedI would like to get paid for smoking pot and sleeping
22:17.56stonedthats not gonna happen
22:17.56canllaithheh
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22:18.27stoned:)
22:18.30stonedanisfarhana: good night
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22:18.59n4pp3lbl00dhello @ all.  How can i cange my kde and linux to german langauge?
22:19.06EruditeH1rmithi, can anyone help me with midi in KDE?
22:19.14stonedEruditeH1rmit: what do you want? ask
22:19.30stonedn4pp3lbl00d: go to kcontrol
22:19.39stonedregional and accessibility
22:19.48stonedcountry/region & language
22:19.53EruditeH1rmitstoned: I don't know how to set it up, I have kguitar running but no sound because it needs midi to work
22:20.04stonedEruditeH1rmit: which distro?
22:20.14stonedEruditeH1rmit: you should install timidity and freepats or something
22:20.17EruditeH1rmitstoned: debian
22:20.26stonedEruditeH1rmit: aptitude install timidity freepats
22:20.27EruditeH1rmitstoned: already installed timidity
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22:21.00EruditeH1rmitok I'm installing freepats
22:21.07stonedkguitar huh?
22:21.10stonedyou play?
22:21.11EruditeH1rmitstoned: do I need to restart KDE or anything to get it to work?
22:21.13EruditeH1rmitstoned: yeah
22:21.15n4pp3lbl00dhow can i fnd kcontrol? or is this the normal Controle Center?
22:21.18stonedwhat do you play?
22:21.22stonedand what do you play with?
22:21.35Sho_n4pp3lbl00d: It's the normal Control Center
22:21.35EruditeH1rmitI'm trying to perfect over the hills and far away
22:21.38stonedEruditeH1rmit: not at all, just play a midi file to check it
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22:21.59stonedn4pp3lbl00d: you also have to install the locale for your distro
22:22.18stonedn4pp3lbl00d: and another distro specific thing too I dunno
22:22.21n4pp3lbl00dyes right, there is a menu to change the languages but i can only use englisch there are no other
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22:22.38stonedyou have to install the particular locale
22:22.41stonedlanguage
22:22.49stonedask in your distro's irc channel
22:23.14stonedEruditeH1rmit: did it work?
22:23.35stonedEruditeH1rmit: what kind of music do you like to play? How long have you been playing? You have anything recorded?
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22:24.59EruditeH1rmitI have been playing for about 2.5 years I like playing anything but I am limited to mostly classic rock because the tabs are easy to find and I like them. Not good enough to record things, its mainly for fun
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22:25.18EruditeH1rmitI am not very musically talented
22:25.29EruditeH1rmitanything that I do is shear effort
22:25.46EruditeH1rmitI like Led Zep
22:25.51EruditeH1rmitstoned: its not working yet
22:28.12stonedworks here
22:28.31stonedcool man
22:28.36stonedgood man you're a kid?
22:28.41stonedlike 16-17?
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22:29.02EruditeH1rmit20
22:29.06EruditeH1rmithttp://rafb.net/p/ERAT7C38.html
22:29.06stonedword man
22:29.31stonedman I dunno what that means
22:29.33stonedask in #debian
22:29.58EruditeH1rmitok
22:30.01EruditeH1rmitthanks for the help
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22:31.17stonedhey
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22:51.00garrettkajmowiczI'm SSHd into a remote machine and I need to enable desktop sharing for the auto-login account.  How should I go about doing this?
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22:51.48stonedok
22:51.50stonedI got some beef
22:52.10stoneddoes anyone else find the glass break sound when you make an error in kde annoying?
22:52.23stonedon a loud system it really puts a hurtin on ya
22:52.38Sho_stoned: yeah, it's very jarring
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22:57.23yngwinwell, you can change it
22:57.26jacekowskistoned: better than flash popups
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22:58.52garrettkajmowiczHow do I edit the config file to get remote desktop sharing to start on login?
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23:01.55W6BIMy LUG is doing an Installfest of Kubuntu at a PC Club.  Can someone point me to a 'basics of KDE' tutorial we can print for a handout?
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23:08.18garrettkajmowiczI need to enable desktop sharing on a machine I have remotely SSHd into.  How do I do this?
23:08.52TheSimkingarrettkajmowicz: go a different way
23:08.56TheSimkingarrettkajmowicz: what distro?
23:09.18jacekowskix11vnc
23:09.36Shirakawasunacould someone do me a favor by downloading the Buuf icon theme from kde-look.org and telling me why it doesn't build? :)
23:09.59TheSimkingarrettkajmowicz: what works awesome is xrdp
23:10.10garrettkajmowiczTheSimkin: I'm using Ubuntu 6.10.  I just need to know what files I need to modify in my home dir so it starts on login.
23:10.49garrettkajmowiczTheSimkin: If you can tell me how to set it up to work on my currently running desktop through an SSH session, I'll try it.
23:10.53TheSimkini don't know the answer to that unfortunately garrettkajmowicz.  but xrdp is a great way to get remote connectivity and it runs as a service so you don't need to worry about desktop sharing.
23:11.04TheSimkingarrettkajmowicz: or nxserver and nxclient
23:12.00TheSimkingarrettkajmowicz: in gentoo you just emerge xrdp.. hopefully in ubuntu you can just apt-get install xrdp ?
23:12.21garrettkajmowiczTheSimkin: The thing is that I *want* desktop sharing - it's my machine at work and I'd like to be able to take control of it.  Problem is that if I need to go to my desktop to set this up, I need to make a 30 minute round trip drive tonight.
23:12.44TheSimkingarrettkajmowicz: ahhh.
23:12.57TheSimkingarrettkajmowicz: why not do this, run kcontrol remotely through ssh forwarding.
23:13.09TheSimkingarrettkajmowicz: then set it up the way you want, restart X (with autologin)
23:13.30TheSimkini can't think of any way to make your current desktop shared.
23:14.22stonedhey
23:14.22garrettkajmowiczThat's alright - I'll try the autologin trick.
23:14.23stonedwhat now
23:15.32stonedgarrettkajmowicz: ssh into your box, and install stuff, configure it, run it, and connect via rdp or vnc or nx or whatever
23:15.35stonedwhats the problem?
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23:16.22garrettkajmowiczJust trying to get the configuration settings that I need.  I forgot about remotely launching kcontrol, though.
23:16.25stonedwith vnc, you don't need that stuff
23:16.31stonedvnc will spawn a desktop session for you
23:16.54stoneddon't need to login for that, just ssh into your box, setup vnc, run vncserver, and connect to it from wherever
23:16.58garrettkajmowiczI don't want a new desktop - I want to be able to use my old desktop.
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23:17.08stonedis your old desktop running/
23:17.09stoned?
23:17.42stonedso you're already logged into it, and a desktop is running, which you want to see?
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23:18.56garrettkajmowiczNo - I want to be able to use my desktop at work and leave long-running processes open in a window.  Then I can come home and VNC over to see what's going on.  I don't need to keep my current desktop, but I would like to be able to set up everything remotely so I can work from home tommorow.
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23:19.41paddegarrettkajmowicz: check out freenx or nxserver-freeedition
23:20.39stonedgarrettkajmowicz: install vncserver on your work pc and run it on a display.  Then connect to yourself with vncclient and in that desktop do all your stuff and leave it, then vnc from anywhere and access tht desktop
23:21.09stonedim sure vnc can share the already running desktop and you dont have to run another
23:21.13stonedI dunno
23:21.37stonedvnc should be able to serv up an already runing desktop
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23:24.00HaSHhello all can anyone tell me how i can get the tabs in ktorrent to all be in one tab....like it was b4?
23:24.07HaSHim now using 2.2
23:24.23HaSHand dont see any optioin to make both uploads and downloads to all be in the same window.
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23:25.40W6BIstoned: It can.
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23:39.07baskusis kde gonna be cool when 4.0 comes out?
23:40.11slapzkde is already cool ;P
23:40.27sabayonlive-2206hi
23:40.53sabayonlive-2206im installin 3.3 sabayon but i need to no if kde is good
23:41.50sabayonlive-2206then i need to no if sabayon will see other os's in the tower or if i will need to do something
23:42.09mobtekbaskus: it's prolly won't be as stable to begin with but the new features will be rather snazzy :)
23:42.30mobteksabayonlive-2206: ask in your os channel, as to kde it's very good :)
23:42.48sabayonlive-2206ok
23:42.57baskusmobtek, ok :)
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23:43.37baskusmobtek, Im a gnome guy, too many widgets and stuff in kde for me, but Im definately gonna try kde 4
23:43.43baskusseems cool
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23:43.57stonedwidgets?
23:44.01baskusye
23:44.03stonedtoo many?
23:44.07stonedwhat do you mean?
23:44.10baskustoolbars and buttons and everything allover
23:44.13stonedbe more specific about what you don't like
23:44.20baskusw8
23:44.34stonedyou don't like the fact that you can color invidual items which you can't do with gtk apps
23:45.19baskuswell
23:45.39baskusseems to me the kde devs dont try to keep things simple
23:45.47baskusand clean
23:46.05stonedhow?
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23:46.09stonedgive exmaples man
23:46.22baskuslike the konqueror config for example
23:47.06baskusin the settings menu for starters
23:47.21baskustoo much stuff :P
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23:47.34baskusall starts with Configure
23:47.44baskushard to get the right one by just scanning
23:47.58stonedso you don't like to read?
23:48.12baskuswell
23:48.23stonedwhat are you doing on a computer ?
23:48.30baskusofc I dont mind reading or I wouldnt sit in irc talking about computer stuff :P
23:48.44baskusI mean
23:48.59baskuswhat a user want when they hit Settings is set things up
23:49.07baskusnot read the whole menu
23:49.12baskusget the right button fast
23:49.23stoneda few items could have been placed in view
23:49.45baskushehe
23:49.46stonedlike like the hiding of the menubars and toolbars
23:49.51stonedthose should belong  under View menu
23:49.52stonednot settins
23:49.54baskuswhy the hell is Security in view?
23:50.01baskusye
23:50.37stonedyou get used to it
23:50.41stonedI just can't use gnome
23:50.43stonedit pisses me off
23:50.51stonedit doesn't work like the way I want it to
23:50.52stonedkde does
23:50.57baskusI think its beatiful :P
23:51.08baskusmost of it anyway
23:51.14strawi find gnome's been designed for simpletons
23:51.25baskusall u (I) wanna do is there right where it is supposed to
23:51.31baskuspff
23:51.54baskusI would definatly call myself a poweruser
23:52.03baskusand I still prefer simplicity over complexity
23:52.21baskusand then if I wanna config something unusual I just go to gconf-editor
23:52.27baskuswhere EVERYTHING is
23:52.31baskusI like that
23:52.44baskusah
23:52.54baskusI shouldnt spam ur channel with gnome stuff sry :P
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