00:01.31 | PhinnFort | Shirakawasuna: Kontact? |
00:01.34 | PhinnFort | Kmail? |
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00:02.19 | Shirakawasuna | PhinnFort: can they sync centrally and use shared mail with access control? |
00:02.27 | PhinnFort | Shirakawasuna: I think so |
00:02.36 | Shirakawasuna | if they could that would be very cool |
00:02.36 | PhinnFort | Shirakawasuna: I just use it for personal use, though |
00:02.42 | PhinnFort | Shirakawasuna: also look into Mailody |
00:02.46 | Shirakawasuna | because it looks like Kontact has everything required on a personal level. |
00:02.52 | Shirakawasuna | I'm just not sure about the sharing. |
00:03.07 | PhinnFort | Shirakawasuna: well, it doesn't cost anything, so you can just try it out;) |
00:03.16 | hein | Shirakawasuna: Kontact + Kolab is the 'replacement stack' |
00:03.30 | Psychonaut | Anyone have any experience with Mark Kretschmann of Amarok? |
00:03.34 | hein | Psychonaut: yes, why? |
00:03.43 | hein | Psychonaut: he's here, btw: markey |
00:04.34 | Shirakawasuna | hein: Kolab, eh? |
00:04.47 | hydrogen | he's sleeping currently though |
00:04.47 | hein | Shirakawasuna: for the server end |
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00:04.53 | Psychonaut | hein: I've been reporting KDE bugs for years... I just reported one for Amarok and the response I got was rather rude. I was a bit shocked as I've never encountered anything like that before. |
00:05.50 | Sho_ | Psychonaut: hm markey is usually a nice/fun guy though in my experience |
00:05.54 | Sho_ | Psychonaut: maybe he had a bad day |
00:06.10 | hydrogen | bug number? from what I see of the bug digest he didn't say anything out of the ordindary |
00:06.11 | Psychonaut | Sho_: I hope so. If this were my first bug report to KDE it would have turned me off the whole process. |
00:06.28 | Psychonaut | Bug 139109. |
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00:07.41 | hydrogen | mmm |
00:07.44 | hydrogen | the way I'd take that |
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00:07.57 | hydrogen | is that being able to delete from preset is not the soltuion to the problem you brought up |
00:09.02 | Psychonaut | hydrogen: I can see how that would be a possible interpretation. But if that was what was meant, it would have been nice if he had put it that way rather than dismissing the report as "silly" and saying that he didn't believe it. |
00:09.28 | hydrogen | mm |
00:09.29 | hydrogen | its markey |
00:09.32 | hydrogen | don't get offended :) |
00:09.43 | hydrogen | he's cool if you talk to him |
00:09.55 | Psychonaut | hydrogen: Yeah, it's just a bug report. But we can all be civil to each other, can't we? :) |
00:10.50 | Shirakawasuna | meh, no need to be civil if he had made the slightest effort to actually say why he won't fix it :) |
00:11.14 | Shirakawasuna | I'm sure he had a technical reason but his comments read like "I don't wanna" |
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00:12.20 | PhinnFort | well, he has no responsibility to fix it, has he (except morally)? |
00:12.21 | PhinnFort | ;) |
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00:13.46 | Psychonaut | PhinnFort: No, but as a fellow human being I think he ought to feel some obligation to treat those trying to help out the project with a bit more respect. |
00:14.01 | PhinnFort | ...morally, as I said;) |
00:14.21 | litb | ok, guys. can you help me developing network support for my app? i have a shell command. i would appreciate it if you test that |
00:14.34 | PhinnFort | he was either a) busy, b) having a bad day, c) just had explained it to someone else, or d) all of the above? |
00:14.45 | litb | for i in /sys/class/net/*; do cd $i; if [ $[$(cat $i/flags) & 1] -eq 1 ]; then echo "${i##*/} is up"; else echo "${i##*/} is down"; fi; cd ..; done |
00:14.47 | litb | ^^ |
00:14.53 | litb | does it work for you? |
00:16.05 | Psychonaut | Jim Butterfield just died. |
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00:17.25 | PhinnFort | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Butterfield |
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00:18.34 | Psychonaut | And with him died any hope of implementing KDE on the Commodore 64… |
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00:33.52 | pressenter | How is the kde users admin app called? |
00:34.06 | PhinnFort | kcontrol? |
00:39.02 | Shirakawasuna | hmm, the kolab site is down. |
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00:45.41 | DaSkreech | oh yeah :) |
00:45.52 | DaSkreech | i forget why i logged in |
00:46.20 | DaSkreech | is there any family tree software for linux/kde? |
00:46.34 | dwbell | DaSkreech: gramps |
00:46.50 | jacekowski | yes |
00:47.11 | jacekowski | but i don't remember name |
00:47.14 | DaSkreech | sounds like a gtk app :) |
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00:49.00 | DaSkreech | dwbell: good? |
00:50.15 | dwbell | never used it but I've been reading about it everywhere lately. good reviews. I think Linux Journal even did a peice on it. |
00:51.17 | DaSkreech | nice |
00:51.28 | dwbell | http://www.gramps-project.org/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page |
00:51.29 | DaSkreech | I like quirky software turning up :) |
00:54.04 | dwbell | looks gtk by screenshots |
00:54.50 | wolsni | what's wrong with GTK? |
00:54.58 | DaSkreech | no kparts |
00:55.12 | tuxick | wolsni: look at the gtk tutorial and cry |
00:55.34 | wolsni | well, I was assuming that he wasn't a developer |
00:55.47 | tuxick | :) |
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00:56.41 | ryan__ | how do you add a 'open terminal' entry to always display in the right click menu? |
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00:57.14 | dwbell | wolsni: nothing particularly wrong with gtk but since this is the kde channel and he asked about kde software I thought it might not look native on his machine |
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00:58.34 | ryan__ | i can see how i can make a servicemenu entry for files, but i want an 'open terminal' to always be in the right click menu |
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01:01.33 | _root | %u |
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01:06.18 | pressenter | And in what package is the kdm? |
01:07.19 | qupada | kdebase, with any luck |
01:07.30 | pressenter | Ah, ok. |
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01:17.39 | AimeSiSolArt | Hello, does anyone know how to make konqueror close a tab by clicking on it with the mouse's middlebutton (like in firefox) ? |
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01:33.14 | dwbell | AimeSiSolArt: I've been wishing for that too. |
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01:39.30 | AimeSiSolArt | dwbell: ALT + F2 => kwriteconfig --file konquerorrc --group "FMSettings" --key MouseMiddleClickClosesTab --type bool true |
01:39.41 | AimeSiSolArt | see also : http://wiki.kde.org/tiki-index.php?page=Hidden+configuration |
01:39.56 | AimeSiSolArt | you're welcome :) |
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01:43.16 | AimeSiSolArt | dwbell: don't forget that konqueror must be restarted |
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02:25.26 | violot | Is there a way to change the default size of buttons? |
02:25.41 | violot | I'd like my buttons to have a certain extra padding around the text :\ |
02:25.50 | violot | Sort of like how OS X does it |
02:26.51 | jacekowski | AFAIK buttons size depends on theme |
02:27.08 | violot | Hmmm, you'd think a theme emulating Mac OS X would implement that :P |
02:27.24 | stoned | hey |
02:27.29 | stoned | what? |
02:27.47 | violot | Me? |
02:28.21 | stoned | wait what? |
02:28.28 | stoned | implement what |
02:28.33 | stoned | I don't get it |
02:28.45 | stoned | size of what buttons? |
02:28.48 | violot | OS X makes the button padding some number*the text width |
02:28.53 | violot | I forget the number though |
02:29.02 | stoned | why? |
02:29.08 | violot | I dunno, their HIG code |
02:29.15 | stoned | HIG? |
02:29.28 | violot | Human Interface Guideline |
02:29.32 | stoned | oh |
02:29.39 | stoned | what are you doing? |
02:30.12 | violot | Nothin. Is Baghira out of development now? |
02:30.22 | stoned | I dunno |
02:30.34 | violot | What Mac OS X emulating themes are there now? *violot cries* |
02:30.46 | jacekowski | baghira |
02:30.53 | stoned | mac os interface sucks |
02:30.53 | stoned | imo |
02:31.01 | violot | It owns, pretty much. |
02:31.01 | jacekowski | IMO too |
02:31.10 | stoned | I'm not the only one |
02:31.11 | stoned | :D |
02:31.13 | violot | jacekowski: yeah, but it has bad button sizing :\ |
02:31.17 | stoned | two to one |
02:31.21 | stoned | violot: you lose |
02:31.29 | stoned | j/k |
02:31.31 | violot | I know, I know, tell me to be "original" :P |
02:31.50 | violot | But I really like Mac OS X, and I hope to get a Macbook soon :X |
02:32.00 | stoned | word |
02:32.04 | jacekowski | i use ugly configured plastik |
02:32.12 | stoned | hey check me out |
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02:32.18 | jacekowski | +ugly configured emerald |
02:32.24 | stoned | http://youfuck.mypets.ws/screenshots/kde.jpg |
02:32.33 | stoned | thats what my desktop looks like I think |
02:33.24 | stoned | hey what do you think? |
02:33.28 | stoned | is it green enough yet? |
02:33.34 | jacekowski | hmmm |
02:33.36 | jacekowski | i think |
02:33.43 | jacekowski | Error! |
02:33.43 | jacekowski | Could not locate remote server |
02:33.45 | violot | I'm not a fan of serif fonts for the desktop really :\ |
02:33.58 | violot | Or puke green :P *jokes* |
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02:34.40 | stoned | puke! |
02:34.50 | stoned | sick. more like pot green |
02:35.20 | violot | lol |
02:35.41 | stoned | I wish I lived in a house in the woods or feilds, grew my animals to eat em, grow my vegetables and tend to them, easy life, and smoke |
02:36.02 | stoned | no technology |
02:36.11 | stoned | but it would get boring after a while |
02:36.16 | jacekowski | no |
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02:36.45 | stoned | no what? |
02:36.50 | jacekowski | 04:36 < stoned> but it would get boring after a while |
02:37.03 | stoned | why won't it get boring |
02:37.15 | stoned | I mean you can't just get high and lay around all day, you gotta do something |
02:37.23 | stoned | what will you do for entertainment? |
02:37.31 | stoned | what about music? |
02:38.16 | jacekowski | i don't now |
02:38.42 | jacekowski | know* |
02:39.23 | jacekowski | but AFAIK few years ago they have music too |
02:40.04 | stoned | without technology how can you have anything? |
02:40.34 | jacekowski | i think you are technology addict |
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02:40.57 | sabayonlive-1322 | hi |
02:41.17 | jacekowski | i like to go somewhere when cellphone don't work where isn't electricity |
02:41.24 | jacekowski | sometimes |
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02:42.39 | jacekowski | and i'm ~18yo |
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02:44.28 | jacekowski | if i can choose who i want to be |
02:45.00 | jacekowski | hmmm |
02:45.12 | jacekowski | i always wanted to be a pirate |
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02:46.16 | jacekowski | ~5pm |
02:46.22 | jacekowski | late |
02:46.27 | jacekowski | am* |
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02:57.44 | Casper | hi there, for k3b, how do you disable burn free? |
02:59.01 | kdepepo | advanced settings page |
03:01.36 | Casper | can't see the option... maybe it's too old? |
03:01.57 | Casper | 0.12.17... |
03:02.13 | kdepepo | uh, 1.0.2 is current |
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03:02.40 | kdepepo | but it should also be in your version |
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03:04.08 | Casper | I'm blind... |
03:04.31 | Casper | first option on the writting page |
03:04.41 | Casper | then my burner enforce it.... |
03:05.08 | kdepepo | oh then pages are reorganized :) |
03:05.48 | Casper | I want to disable the burnproof... but I know it's enabled... |
03:06.15 | Casper | I see the write speed jump from 12X to 4X while burning.. |
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03:10.46 | Casper | do you know of a tool to help to burn lots of directory? while saving as much space on the dvd-r? |
03:11.03 | Casper | i.e. a prog that tell you what to put on the disk so it minimise the waste? |
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03:12.26 | kdepepo | maybe create images before burning... |
03:12.58 | kdepepo | and mount them to check space distribution |
03:13.05 | Casper | that is what I want to do, but that don't fix the wasted space... |
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03:15.18 | roger_ | hi all, |
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03:17.30 | eu | hello |
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03:18.48 | eu | @@ |
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03:19.50 | roger_ | I'm newbies, how can I automatically boot may FC to gui, coz each time I open I have to type startx |
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03:21.27 | roger_ | the last time I edit and change some in innittab my FC corrupt |
03:21.55 | roger_ | anybody? |
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03:22.12 | NotLinux | when I log in to this distro as a user and startx I want kde to look/act the same as it does for root. Is there a . file that I can copy that controles this? |
03:22.21 | NotLinux | er, controls even |
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03:27.44 | kdepepo | roger_, #fedora ? |
03:29.42 | Lazydog | a214: edit /etc/inittab and change id:3:initdefault: to 5 |
03:32.03 | a214 | yes thats what I did, then after restart it woundnt load up all of the key files are failed loading |
03:34.11 | a214 | it says something about security |
03:34.22 | Lazydog | join #fedora and ask there |
03:34.46 | a214 | ok thanks very much |
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04:11.38 | ferret_0567 | does Kget support download acceleration like "Down them All" for Firefox? |
04:12.46 | ferret_0567 | Run KGet from the command-line, like WGet. Or have it list available links for download from within Konqueror. Or, create a "drop-point" where you can drag and drop files and hyperlinks! |
04:12.48 | ferret_0567 | cool |
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04:33.48 | linux__alien | i was actually using Gnome for couple of days and then today logged back to KDE and i was surprised that my KMenu has changed and the change was the KDE Control Center shortcut in the Menu was missing. How do i retrieve it back |
04:34.21 | _timrs_ | like alt-f1? |
04:34.35 | linux__alien | that means? |
04:34.53 | _timrs_ | "shortcut in the Menu was missing" -- clarify |
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04:35.40 | linux__alien | That Control Center in the KMenu was not there at all. I dont have that option itself in that menu |
04:36.08 | _timrs_ | shouldn't it appear as "Personal Settings" |
04:36.20 | linux__alien | i dont remember but its missing |
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04:36.39 | _timrs_ | hold on |
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04:38.11 | _timrs_ | just open up kmenu edit and add an entry for kcontrol |
04:38.37 | _timrs_ | 'kmenuedit' is the command, then 'kcontrol' is the kde control center command |
04:39.17 | _timrs_ | OR, if that doesn't work... |
04:39.49 | _timrs_ | right click on panel, unlock, right click, configure panel, menus section, and settings is in the optional menus |
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04:41.19 | linux__alien | _timrs_, its a bug right? |
04:41.40 | _timrs_ | maybe, sometimes things in kmenu don't show up |
04:42.19 | _timrs_ | i have things like wine applications in ~/.kde/share/applnk that don't show up |
04:43.13 | linux__alien | and i also found that KDE4 looks like the existing KDE3 |
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04:43.23 | linux__alien | i mean the look and feel of it |
04:43.40 | ferret_0567 | http://linuxreviews.org/kde/kde-user-persp/ |
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04:43.48 | ferret_0567 | lol, Windows users don't have that |
04:43.51 | _timrs_ | thats because plasma and oxygen haven't been done in the screenshot you've seen |
04:44.32 | linux__alien | in KDE its only C++ or can we develop applications with C also? |
04:44.40 | linux__alien | is it possible? |
04:44.48 | _timrs_ | C works i believe |
04:45.04 | _timrs_ | you should at least play with kdevelop |
04:45.13 | ferret_0567 | Isn't there KDE bindings for a lot of programming languages? |
04:45.20 | _timrs_ | ya |
04:45.20 | ferret_0567 | Including Java and Python? |
04:45.28 | linux__alien | yes but is it available for C ? |
04:45.36 | linux__alien | i feel its only available for OOPS languages |
04:45.37 | _timrs_ | mostly things like perl, python, java and stuff -- yes its for C |
04:46.00 | linux__alien | _timrs_, you mean to say its available for C also? |
04:46.03 | _timrs_ | python is more for gtk, isn't it? |
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04:46.10 | _timrs_ | linux__alien: yes |
04:46.12 | ferret_0567 | I dunno |
04:46.28 | linux__alien | _timrs_, can you give me the link for it ? |
04:46.31 | _timrs_ | just open up kdevelop and you'll see tons of languages |
04:46.50 | _timrs_ | linux_alien: don't know of one off the top of my head |
04:47.20 | ferret_0567 | does kget support download acceleration? |
04:47.36 | ferret_0567 | I'm trying to decide if I want to take the time to compile it |
04:47.49 | _timrs_ | what do you mean by download acceleration? |
04:48.16 | ferret_0567 | it downloads files in chunks |
04:48.34 | ferret_0567 | and joins them later to get faster downloads |
04:48.35 | ferret_0567 | results |
04:48.46 | _timrs_ | don't think so.. but i don't really know |
04:48.46 | ferret_0567 | like... |
04:48.56 | _timrs_ | like torrents, i know what you mean |
04:49.13 | ferret_0567 | and "Down them All" firefox extension |
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04:49.30 | ferret_0567 | although down them all messes up for big downloads |
04:49.41 | ferret_0567 | especially ISO's |
04:49.59 | _timrs_ | linux__alien: this may not help you at all, but for C++ go to http://www.beginning-kdevelop-programming.co.uk/ |
04:50.32 | _timrs_ | ferret_0567: why does that 'mess things up' |
04:50.56 | ferret_0567 | because of when it joins files, it joins them incorrectly |
04:51.03 | ferret_0567 | or some other problem |
04:51.15 | _timrs_ | oh, i've never had that problem |
04:51.46 | jhulst | Any recomendations for rss readers? |
04:51.49 | ferret_0567 | no checksumming like torrentds |
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04:52.25 | _timrs_ | jhulst: theres akregator |
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04:53.18 | jhulst | _timrs_: I currently use akregator, do you know if it is still in current development? |
04:53.29 | _timrs_ | i wouldn't know |
04:53.38 | _timrs_ | but i use it all the time |
04:54.37 | jhulst | yeah, I like it too, there are a few problems, I just didn't know if it was still an active project |
04:54.55 | _timrs_ | my problems are kindof dumb |
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04:55.30 | _timrs_ | like clicking the link on a digg page forces my mouse into some 'cancel' image and have to kill X to get my mouse back |
04:55.46 | Casper | hi again, finally upgraded k3b... but... burnproof stay enabled even if I disable it! anyone have an idea how to fix that? |
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04:56.46 | _timrs_ | disable it where? when you're about to burn you uncheck the box or what? |
04:58.00 | spawn57 | lemme try |
04:58.04 | Casper | settings -> configure k3b -> advanced: burning -> [ ] Use burnfree <== i.e. disabled |
04:58.21 | _timrs_ | hold on |
04:58.58 | Casper | burning a dvd at 16X over the network... constant write speed of about 6 to 6.1x (8.something MB/s) |
05:00.37 | spawn57 | Casper: sounds like you got the config right, it might be specific to your writer, you're gonna have to submit a bug report |
05:00.42 | _timrs_ | don't know why it would reset its settings like that |
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05:05.46 | _timrs_ | anyone wanna help here?: http://groups.google.com/group/Google-Desktop-Linux-How-do-I/browse_thread/thread/6955e8a5b7f804e4/a464e999fae6f7f7 |
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05:12.49 | _timrs_ | how do i add google desktop search to the konqueror search bar? |
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05:20.48 | Shirakawasuna | _timrs_: uh... |
05:21.08 | _timrs_ | I've had no luck -- http://groups.google.com/group/Google-Desktop-Linux-How-do-I/browse_thread/thread/6955e8a5b7f804e4/a464e999fae6f7f7 |
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05:27.39 | Shirakawasuna | _timrs_: right... are you using linux? |
05:27.52 | _timrs_ | ya, of course |
05:28.02 | Shirakawasuna | ah, it was just released |
05:28.55 | _timrs_ | my prob: http://127.0.0.1:36865/search?flags=8&hl=en_US&num=10&q=food&start=0&s=QEF1QIu1avxhOx0wdey8teFFH2Y clearly demonstrates that /q=food is the query |
05:29.14 | _timrs_ | and http://127.0.0.1:36865/search?flags=8&hl=en_US&num=10&q=\{@}&start=0&s=QEF1QIu1avxhOx0wdey8teFFH2Y doesn't work |
05:29.37 | _timrs_ | it only works when food is the query |
05:30.07 | _timrs_ | the &start=0&s=QEF1QIu1avxhOx0wdey8teFFH2Y seems insane |
05:30.10 | Shirakawasuna | well it isn't available in non-deb form and i don't feel like messing around w/ it at the moment |
05:30.24 | Shirakawasuna | although this is #kde so we don't really support google's attempts at a linux version of their app |
05:30.31 | Casper | -use-the-force-luke... does anyone have a list of those? |
05:30.33 | _timrs_ | well, i used an rpm, its in non-deb form |
05:30.46 | _timrs_ | Casper: wtf? |
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05:30.59 | Casper | for growisofs |
05:31.05 | Shirakawasuna | Casper: ? :) |
05:31.14 | Shirakawasuna | Casper: I have no idea what you're talking about |
05:31.46 | Casper | those stupid developper decided to make tons of option for growisofs undocumented and prefix those by -use-the-force-luke=whatever |
05:32.04 | _timrs_ | Casper: I'm going to track you with your IP address somehow and get the feds to put you in a mental institution |
05:32.10 | Shirakawasuna | Casper: weird |
05:32.22 | ma3x | when I right click - properties on the 'dancing bar' or 'multimeter' thing in the ksysguardd plugin, there is an option to adjust the font size. it's not there in etch. how do I add it? |
05:32.25 | DaSkreech | Casper: first... change your name to luke |
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05:32.26 | Shirakawasuna | Casper: use k3b? ;) |
05:32.29 | DaSkreech | then..... |
05:32.31 | DaSkreech | :) |
05:32.52 | Casper | Shirakawasuna: I do, but here is the problem: I can't disable burnproof! |
05:33.02 | _timrs_ | lol |
05:33.13 | Casper | I want the burner to stick out it's tongue on a buffer underrun condition |
05:33.25 | Shirakawasuna | Casper: you don't want burnproof? |
05:33.31 | ma3x | to what package does it belong? |
05:33.35 | ma3x | kicker or sysguard? |
05:33.49 | Shirakawasuna | ma3x: you'd have to ask #kubuntu |
05:33.56 | ma3x | im using kde |
05:33.59 | ma3x | why should i ask kubuntu |
05:34.08 | Shirakawasuna | because distros package things separately sometimes |
05:34.24 | Casper | no, because burnproof make a small burning error on the disk, which should be ignored by all normal reader, except some very capricious one... |
05:34.33 | Shirakawasuna | Casper: hmm |
05:34.37 | Casper | so disabling it should make more reliable burns |
05:34.56 | Shirakawasuna | sorry, no idea |
05:35.01 | Shirakawasuna | my google skills have failed you. |
05:35.06 | Casper | same for me... |
05:35.53 | Casper | it look like plextor forced the use of the burn proof |
05:36.48 | ma3x | maybe it belongs to kdecore |
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05:37.10 | ma3x | because when you go to multimeter settings it says kde panel at the top of it |
05:37.20 | ma3x | and kdepanel is part of kdecore right? |
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05:38.59 | Shirakawasuna | ma3x: you're most definitely in kubuntu country, now. Please ask in #kubuntu |
05:39.19 | ma3x | i am not using kubuntu |
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05:40.10 | Shirakawasuna | ah, I mean #debian |
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05:40.58 | DaSkreech | heehee |
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05:43.46 | Shirakawasuna | darn OSes with their alliteration names |
05:43.56 | Shirakawasuna | what's the next one, goofy goose? |
05:44.24 | DaSkreech | Gutsy Gibbon |
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05:45.17 | Shirakawasuna | well at least it's a monkey this time. Monkeys are awesome. |
05:45.29 | _timrs_ | no they're not |
05:45.36 | ma3x | how come you dont know that |
05:45.44 | ma3x | its a kde thing |
05:45.59 | ma3x | right click on ksysguard applet |
05:46.04 | ma3x | then you go to properties |
05:46.08 | ma3x | what owns this package? |
05:46.27 | ma3x | i mean what package owns those options |
05:46.35 | ma3x | it sure has nothing to do with debian |
05:46.37 | _timrs_ | can't believe Shirakawasuna directed you to your disto channel, its most definitely a kde thing |
05:46.40 | ma3x | it's only packaged for debian |
05:46.52 | ma3x | but debian didnt touch it |
05:48.06 | Shirakawasuna | _timrs_: no, it's not. Distros change the packaging of KDE often. |
05:48.12 | Shirakawasuna | _timrs_: for instance gentoo splits it up into separate packages |
05:48.43 | Shirakawasuna | ma3x: ksysguard is supposed to be part of kdebase (I dont' know why you considered kdecore), and this *is* a distro question because it has to do with packaging. |
05:48.49 | _timrs_ | not like that -- unless you're in freespire/linspire land |
05:49.01 | Shirakawasuna | _timrs_: feel free to ask anyone else in here |
05:49.19 | ma3x | Shirakawasuna, yeah it has to do with packaging |
05:49.21 | Shirakawasuna | a specific distro's packaging isn't supported unless some random debian person is nice enough to help out |
05:49.25 | ma3x | but nothing with the kde itself |
05:49.28 | _timrs_ | w/e, kde usually stays the same in every distro besides linspire/freespire |
05:49.32 | ma3x | i mean they didnt change your source code |
05:49.57 | DaSkreech | _timrs_: What do they do? |
05:50.08 | DaSkreech | sed the k's back to cs? |
05:50.10 | Shirakawasuna | ma3x: right but you're simply asking about naming and packaging. I use archlinux - why should I know what packaging scheme debian uses? :) |
05:50.18 | Shirakawasuna | or if I had SUSE |
05:50.26 | _timrs_ | distros are tooo involved with kernel stuff and hardware than to deal with individual messing up kde |
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05:50.32 | Shirakawasuna | that's why I was nice and directed you to your distro channel, where it's germane and you're likely to get better help. |
05:50.38 | Shirakawasuna | I could have simply ignored you |
05:50.41 | ma3x | Shirakawasuna, then at least tell me the files involved and i'll find out the package myself |
05:50.57 | Shirakawasuna | ma3x: what files? |
05:51.09 | Shirakawasuna | ma3x: the location of files is *also* a distro thing, although there can be overlap. |
05:51.18 | Shirakawasuna | mine are in /opt, in gentoo they're in /usr |
05:51.23 | ma3x | Shirakawasuna, well when you go to the properties of the kicker sysguard applet |
05:51.28 | ma3x | that must involve some files |
05:51.44 | ma3x | i need the filenames |
05:52.09 | _timrs_ | ~/.kde/share/config/kdesysguardrc???? |
05:52.10 | Shirakawasuna | config files for kde apps are in ~/.kde/share/apps/<appname> and /.kde/share/config/appname* |
05:52.24 | Shirakawasuna | ma3x: but if it isn't showing up in the dialogue you're going to have more work to do |
05:52.37 | Shirakawasuna | and since this is an issue that appeared only after a distro upgrade I'm going to have to say it's likely your distro's issue. |
05:52.52 | ma3x | its not distro upgrade |
05:52.54 | ma3x | its simply etch |
05:52.57 | ma3x | stable |
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05:57.46 | tiris | Is there anyone here who can help with beryl trouble on Sabayon? Here is a link to my problem:http://pastebin.ca/598269 |
05:58.52 | Shirakawasuna | tiris: this is #kde, try #sabayon :) |
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05:59.32 | Shirakawasuna | but just so you know it sounds like you don't have direct rendering (it could be something else, too) |
06:00.18 | tiris | no that is okay I have been on google maps and have tryed out the other games as well. They run nicely. |
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06:04.37 | Shirakawasuna | tiris: well, run beryl from a terminal (just 'beryl') and it will give you more information when you try it. |
06:04.44 | Shirakawasuna | tiris: and ask in #beryl or #sabayon ;) |
06:05.48 | tiris | thanks I didn't look for a beryl channel. |
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06:10.19 | ma3x | can i download and compile kicker applets only? |
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06:32.44 | croepha | hey, is there a way for KDE applications (specifically amarok or kaffiene) to be able to access files on samba shares without haveing to save it to a local disk first? |
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06:40.21 | Chani | croepha: I've nevre used samba, but I don't see why not |
06:41.14 | Chani | croepha: I regularly save screenshots drecrtly to my server over fish:/ |
06:41.19 | Chani | *directly |
06:41.24 | shevy | fish? the shell? |
06:41.35 | Chani | hte files over ssh thingy |
06:45.58 | croepha | in amarok, if i do smb://user@host/path/file.mp3 it sais there is no suitable input plugin |
06:47.55 | the_p | croepha: you can mount the samba share. |
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06:49.03 | benJIman | amarok uses xine to play music normally which doesn't understand kioslaves. |
06:49.15 | benJIman | Same with kaffeine. |
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06:50.32 | the_p | you have no problem when you mount the samba share. |
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06:51.40 | croepha | the_p: its kinda encumbersome for what my needs are |
06:51.48 | croepha | but its ok |
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06:52.38 | croepha | btw, it does the same thing with fish |
06:56.47 | Chani | oh. silly xine :P |
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06:57.00 | Chani | I wonder if phonon will solve that |
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06:57.46 | Chani | yikes, kde4 stuff is taking up abolut 8 gigs on my drive |
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07:23.17 | undrwater | how does one open konq as a file manager? |
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07:24.04 | straw | undrwater: kfmclient openProfile filemanagement |
07:24.34 | undrwater | lovely, thanks straw |
07:24.45 | straw | ok |
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07:32.41 | ma3x | no matter what i try to do, /home/ma3x/Desktop always keeps showing up with Home.desktop Trash.desktop..... in it |
07:32.45 | ma3x | i've deleted it many times |
07:32.49 | ma3x | what does recreate it? |
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07:38.16 | straw | ma3x: your distro is probably doing it |
07:38.31 | ma3x | straw, come on, don't blame my distro |
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07:39.46 | straw | why not? afaik, kde isn't restoring ~/Desktop |
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07:41.09 | straw | ma3x: there's one possible way to find out. there's a setting in kcontrol that allows you to change the location of the Desktop directory |
07:41.28 | ma3x | i tried that |
07:41.30 | straw | mine's under ~/.kde |
07:41.31 | ma3x | it keeps reappearing |
07:41.55 | straw | hm. i wonder if something changed with 3.5.7 |
07:42.37 | straw | restoring those two icons has been a FAQ here in the past |
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07:44.40 | ma3x | i use 3.5.5 |
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07:46.47 | straw | ma3x: in that case it's almost definitely your distro. what do you use? |
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07:47.14 | ma3x | debian stable |
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07:48.29 | ma3x | its not my distro |
07:48.30 | ma3x | its kde |
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08:30.55 | mo0osah | ubuntu-effects |
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08:46.06 | Danker | Hi |
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08:46.48 | Danker | I have problem - quanta is very slow when typing and switching between large script file. Is there any solution. 3.5.7 |
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08:51.21 | ferret_0567 | Is Konversation equivelant to xchat? |
08:52.02 | Danker | Far better ;) |
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08:53.05 | ferret_0567 | really? |
08:53.10 | ferret_0567 | what does it have more? |
08:53.15 | Danker | Try ;) |
08:53.24 | ferret_0567 | ok... |
08:53.28 | Danker | Tried both but konversation is really better :) |
08:53.55 | ferret_0567 | I guess I should compile the full kdenetwork and then compile only konversation so that I can make a checkinstall package |
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08:54.07 | ferret_0567 | specifically, a modified slackware package (I use LFS) |
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09:14.53 | Crell | Hi all. Hopefully simple question. How do I change the dpi of an image in Krita? I'm looking through the menus and not seeing it. |
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09:16.19 | PhilRod | Crell: if no one here knows, you could try #koffice |
09:16.38 | Crell | Thanks. Would that be active at this time of night? |
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09:17.43 | PhilRod | possibly - lots of kde developers are at akademy in glasgow, where it's 10am |
09:17.54 | Crell | Hm, good point. |
09:17.58 | PhilRod | (actually, lots of kde developers are on european time anyway) |
09:18.47 | straw | disturbing events in Glasgow |
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09:20.54 | PhilRod | yes. News reports are that no one was hurt though, so I guess everyone at akademy is OK |
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09:21.57 | straw | good. hopefully, they've got the people responsible |
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09:23.17 | Crell | Hm, no one responding over in #KOffice, either. |
09:23.57 | gourdin | when changing font settings, the size of, for example, the menu font change between application |
09:24.02 | bram85 | is internet still out in Glasgow? |
09:24.04 | gourdin | small in konversation / konqueror |
09:24.11 | gourdin | bigger in kontact |
09:24.14 | gourdin | (kde 3.5.7) |
09:24.18 | gourdin | anyone got a clue ? |
09:24.46 | gourdin | (kwrite too have bigger font size) |
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09:25.54 | bram85 | gourdin: and if you restart the app having the wrong font sizes |
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09:26.54 | gourdin | bram85: I have to kill every konqu process |
09:26.57 | Crell | No one here knows from Krita? :-( |
09:27.16 | gourdin | bram85: you are right |
09:27.23 | gourdin | I need to restart every applications |
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09:28.26 | gourdin | bram85: is this a known bug ? |
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09:44.13 | bram85 | gourdin: not that i know of |
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09:48.21 | Quiark | hi, I read the "Heating plasma" article and they mentioned the Zooming User Interface is going to be in KDE 4. Where can I find some more information about it ? I googled, but couldn't find anyhing relevant to KDE |
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09:49.21 | gourdin | logout/login redo the bug ;/ |
09:49.54 | gourdin | I have to resart every apps to right font |
09:50.06 | Skrot- | Quiark: Check out http://lists.kde.org/?l=kde-panel-devel&r=1&w=2, http://techbase.kde.org/Projects/Plasma and #plasma - I think most of the devs are in glasgow for akademy right now though |
09:52.59 | Quiark | thanks |
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10:15.04 | Bug2000 | How do I fix my broken KDE :\ |
10:15.25 | Bug2000 | I tried to change the icons, the icons and all the graphics are still missing. |
10:15.26 | Skrot- | Depends how its broken.. |
10:15.35 | Bug2000 | Skrot-: I'll show you a screen shot. |
10:16.17 | Bug2000 | http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/5977/screenshotconqueryourderx5.png |
10:16.41 | Bug2000 | Thats Konqi from Gnome. |
10:16.50 | Bug2000 | If I run KDE by itself, the situation is even worse. |
10:17.03 | Skrot- | Seems like your missing some stuff.. which distro? |
10:17.08 | Bug2000 | Archlinux. |
10:17.19 | Skrot- | Have you tried asking them how to reinstall KDE? |
10:18.05 | Bug2000 | Well, I think I did a full reinstall if lowest package is kdelibs |
10:18.07 | Skrot- | I've got no idea where the icons are supposed to be etc, so I'm afraid I can't help you much with that issue, other than telling you to reinstall, which is sort of a last-resort thing :) |
10:18.31 | Skrot- | Try kdebase and kdeartwork(?) as well |
10:19.32 | Skrot- | You can also try to create a new user on your system and see if that user has all the icons and stuff. In that case there is most likely something wrong inside your ~/.kde/ somewhere |
10:20.03 | Bug2000 | The 'test' user had the issue as well. |
10:20.14 | Skrot- | okay, then I would go with the install |
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10:20.24 | Bug2000 | Targets: k3b kdeadmin kdebase kdegames kdegraphics kdetoys kftpgrabber |
10:20.24 | Bug2000 | <PROTECTED> |
10:20.29 | Bug2000 | I think thats all the kde packages I got. |
10:20.47 | Skrot- | okay |
10:21.14 | Bug2000 | To wipe /opt/kde as well? |
10:21.16 | Bug2000 | Any other paths? |
10:21.43 | Skrot- | That's distro dependant |
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10:22.30 | Skrot- | Bug2000: What sort of packaging system (apt, emerge,..?) does arch use (if any)? |
10:22.34 | Bug2000 | pacman |
10:22.48 | Skrot- | okay, check if there is an reinstall option in it |
10:23.12 | Skrot- | also search the package repository to see if the icons/artwork is in a seperate package |
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10:23.43 | Bug2000 | There is. I tried it [Tango] |
10:24.34 | Skrot- | You might also check and see if changing the icon theme in kcontrol -> Appearance & Themes -> Icons has any effect |
10:24.51 | Bug2000 | I tried already. |
10:25.07 | Skrot- | and there where some themes in the list? |
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10:25.16 | Skrot- | Some icon themes that is |
10:25.23 | Bug2000 | Ya. |
10:25.28 | Skrot- | man.. weird issue |
10:25.58 | Bug2000 | When KDE is loaded as a WM, it shows black box instead of splash. |
10:26.07 | Skrot- | hmm |
10:26.24 | Skrot- | Seems like something is terribly wrong then.. |
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10:27.14 | Skrot- | Either KDE is unable to render bitmaps, or it simply can't find them would be my guess |
10:27.53 | Bug2000 | Umm, new account thingy, doesn't show flags. |
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10:29.33 | Bug2000 | Skrot-: http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/8527/desktoptn4.png |
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10:29.57 | Bug2000 | [Don't want to close my Gnome session, therefor used Xnest, but I get the same things even if it runs by itself] |
10:31.07 | Skrot- | Seems like it doesnt render any bitmaps/can't find any icons |
10:31.24 | Bug2000 | What do you suggest trying? |
10:31.30 | Skrot- | Try looking through ~/.xsession-errors of the user you're trying to run KDE as |
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10:32.43 | Bug2000 | Lots of error. |
10:32.45 | Bug2000 | errors. |
10:33.28 | Skrot- | Yeah, a lot of apps output to it, but try to see if there's anything in there complaining about icons/pixmap/etc |
10:34.27 | Bug2000 | Skrot-: http://pastebin.archlinux.org/7176 |
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10:34.40 | Bug2000 | Thats from first run of a new user. |
10:36.00 | Skrot- | okay, those errors probably indicate that it can't find the icons.. |
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10:36.18 | Skrot- | You might want to ask in the channel of your distro since this is most likely a distro prolem |
10:36.46 | Bug2000 | I see. Thank you very much for your time. |
10:36.55 | Skrot- | No problem |
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11:20.57 | unclemike | ? is there any different clock applets out there anywhere |
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11:24.11 | Sho_ | unclemike: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/StyleClock?content=14423 used to be popular |
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11:24.38 | Sho_ | But there's a whole bunch at www.kde-apps.org - just search for "clock" |
11:25.49 | unclemike | Sho_: ok thanks |
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11:30.08 | Mitja | I can see remote files mounted by sshfs in shell, but not in Konqueror or Amarok. Permissions are set to the user using konqeror. What else should be done? |
11:30.58 | Sho_ | FWIW, KDE does have its own facility to access a file system over SFTP, via sftp:// |
11:32.07 | Mitja | Sho_: that works, but when I load a playlist paths to music files are local thus it won't search them on the server |
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11:34.59 | Sho_ | There used to be a FUSE module to mount KIOSlaves |
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12:01.10 | futlib | hi, I have some problems when using kconfig. I did a writeEntry("Key","Value") just for testing purposes. but though I did, I cannot find it written to any config file in .kde - am I missing something? Or better: is there an example on how to use kconfig? |
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12:04.47 | PhilRod | futlib: best to ask in #kde-devel if anyone's there. For docs, check developer.kde.org or www.englishbreakfastnetwork.org |
12:05.15 | futlib | PhilRod: okay |
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12:05.18 | marv__ | Is there any chance to speak with wheeler via irc? |
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12:06.12 | Sho_ | marv__: Scott? 'wheels' on Freenode |
12:06.25 | root | wasup guys? |
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12:06.59 | root | [Nick] |
12:07.09 | root | shit :S |
12:07.35 | marv__ | Sho_, yes Scott, thx |
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12:08.36 | Narishma | are they having network problems in akademy ? |
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12:09.36 | Sho_ | Narishma: yup |
12:10.04 | Sho_ | Narishma: Unfortunately - not nice to be so isolated from the action |
12:10.29 | Narishma | yeah I found it strange no one bloged from there yet... |
12:10.54 | Narishma | hope they fix that soon |
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12:11.30 | Sho_ | Narishma: Ian Monroe blogged a bit from George Wright's hotel room, see the Amarok blog |
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12:28.07 | joss193 | is there an option to turn Kdebug messages off? |
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12:29.56 | joss193 | kwrite &> /dev/null actually works |
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12:30.18 | tbscope | joss193: run kdebugdialog |
12:30.37 | joss193 | hmm no such binary here |
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12:31.20 | tbscope | there's a debugarea file somewhere too. The kdebugdialog program lets you enable or disable debug areas |
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12:32.08 | pcbsd | test |
12:33.27 | joss193 | tbscope: ok nice |
12:33.52 | joss193 | tbscope: tell me when you located the file, will search for a package |
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12:34.34 | tbscope | I don't locate anything. Your pc, your responsibility to search for the package. I don't even know what operating system you're running |
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12:35.53 | joss193 | tbscope:i know, i ment that file, package i can find myself |
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12:37.53 | joss193 | tbscope: ok found , thanks |
12:38.01 | tbscope | On gentoo it's here: /usr/kde/3.5/share/config/kdebug.areas |
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12:50.36 | gourdin | omg |
12:50.43 | gourdin | huge problem with fonts |
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12:50.56 | gourdin | :/ |
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12:57.19 | gourdin | every app got another font config |
12:57.21 | gourdin | where is located the font config of kde ? |
12:57.23 | gourdin | I have to erase it |
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12:57.37 | gourdin | after playing with randr, everything is messed up |
12:58.03 | tbscope | Probably in ~/.kde/share/... |
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12:58.46 | gourdin | tbscope: yep, probably :) |
12:58.56 | PhilRod | gourdin: you probably want ~/.kde/share/config/kdeglobals, but don't delete it (just rename it) |
12:59.13 | PhilRod | it might not be the source of your problem, and it might contain other config that you want to keep |
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12:59.36 | gourdin | PhilRod: I never rm configs :) |
12:59.38 | gourdin | thx for the path |
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13:04.21 | gourdin | PhilRod: I renamed kdeglobal |
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13:04.35 | gourdin | konqueror does have a smaller font as my other apps |
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13:04.47 | gourdin | and if I restart kde, i got some other font in konsole |
13:04.52 | gourdin | this is weird |
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13:07.53 | straw | damn. ktorrent (2.1.4) seems to cause something similar to http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=140768 |
13:07.58 | [GALAXY] | gourdin: define "as my other apps" what apps are we talkin about ? |
13:08.10 | gourdin | [GALAXY]: konsole |
13:08.46 | gourdin | as I look at my desktop, every apps seems to have size 8, kicker 9 and konsole 9 |
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13:09.16 | PhilRod | gourdin: perhaps a screenshot would make it clearer |
13:09.27 | gourdin | PhilRod: yep :) |
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13:11.29 | gourdin | http://www.lanterne.org/fontSizeProblem.jpg |
13:11.45 | Sho_ | 403 |
13:11.53 | straw | Forbidden |
13:11.57 | gourdin | Sho_: you are fast :) |
13:12.04 | gourdin | straw: too |
13:12.07 | gourdin | it's ok now |
13:12.23 | gourdin | I highlighted the kdeglobal menufont config |
13:13.22 | gourdin | As I'm lookin at the screenshot, I can see that gwenview got the "konsole font size" |
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13:16.04 | gourdin | hmmm, it seems that my Xserver got a problem, DRI wont be enebled |
13:16.33 | gourdin | perhaps a weird state of the gfx driver cause a dpi problem too |
13:16.38 | gourdin | I'll try a reboot |
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13:17.32 | alesan | hi is there a sounf theme after star trek? |
13:17.35 | alesan | sound |
13:17.57 | alesan | tried to search on kde-look but it seems it's only about "graphical" themse |
13:18.16 | Sho_ | If there isn't, you could make one from the sound files in this .deb: http://synthesize.us/debs/lcars-sounds_1.1.deb |
13:18.32 | Sho_ | or from http://www.lcarscom.net/sounds.htm |
13:20.20 | alesan | ok thanks... |
13:20.30 | Sho_ | if you do, upload it to kde-look :) |
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13:21.31 | alesan | it seems there is already something related to LCARS on kde-look |
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13:22.58 | xanax` | hello |
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13:24.13 | gourdin | it was my Xserver |
13:24.43 | gourdin | the gfx driver was in a weird state (dri wasn't loaded, that's why I check the Xorg log) |
13:24.47 | gourdin | reboot |
13:24.54 | gourdin | everything is ok (as before) |
13:25.01 | gourdin | thx for the feedback |
13:25.32 | gourdin | PhilRod: what is r658k ? |
13:25.56 | gourdin | (you confirmed a bug I reported 147399) |
13:25.56 | PhilRod | svn revision 658000 |
13:26.06 | gourdin | ok |
13:26.20 | PhilRod | I haven't updated svn for a while though, so it's not the latest version |
13:26.27 | gourdin | 'k |
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13:26.32 | gourdin | 3.X branch or kde 4? |
13:26.37 | PhilRod | 3.5.x |
13:26.42 | gourdin | ok |
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13:32.53 | litb | gourdin: do you use intel? |
13:33.32 | litb | the i810 driver? |
13:34.32 | litb | hm, how can i use the smplayer themes within smplayer? |
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13:35.12 | Q-collective | smplayer? Oh man, that opens a whole can of worms :) |
13:36.15 | litb | smplayer is good |
13:36.15 | Sho_ | Q-collective: "smplayer" is also a somewhat unfortunate naming choice |
13:36.26 | Q-collective | indeed it is |
13:36.28 | Q-collective | ^_^ |
13:37.17 | litb | only the menu items are too height |
13:38.46 | litb | and the audio/video synchronization is odd |
13:39.05 | litb | i think i have played with them a bit, but now i don't know how i can reset those experiments i made |
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13:39.55 | Sho_ | doo be doo be doo |
13:39.58 | Sho_ | what a slow sunday |
13:40.26 | Nyle | I have the worst case of Heartburn Ever!! |
13:40.33 | Nyle | what do I do? |
13:41.05 | Sho_ | Going by the name, installing DrKonqi might help |
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13:41.47 | Nyle | lol |
13:42.31 | NullAcht15_ | Hi, anyone here using KDE on a Sun machine? I was wondering how to define a keyboard shortcut for the "On/Off" switch on the keyboard |
13:42.41 | litb | emacs psychotherapist could help you dude |
13:42.56 | straw | Nyle: install peptobismal |
13:44.41 | Nyle | I drank some about an hour ago |
13:44.46 | Nyle | I don't feel better at all |
13:44.57 | Nyle | I drank a mouthful |
13:45.05 | Nyle | didn't measure it.. what else can I do |
13:45.07 | straw | what's the easiest way to convert .wav to .ogg? |
13:45.18 | Nyle | straw: I will tell you if you help me get better |
13:45.29 | straw | *shrug* drink more? |
13:45.36 | Nyle | fine, ask someone else then |
13:45.45 | straw | doh... |
13:45.53 | Nyle | j/k |
13:46.12 | Nyle | I have no idea |
13:46.12 | Sho_ | straw: have a look at http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=29024 |
13:46.15 | Nyle | here is a really long way to do it |
13:46.21 | NullAcht15_ | straw: oggenc |
13:46.25 | Nyle | import in audacity, and save as ogg |
13:46.34 | straw | ahh oggenc |
13:46.45 | NullAcht15_ | oggenc is a command line toolthough |
13:46.54 | NullAcht15_ | But really easy to use |
13:47.17 | NullAcht15_ | see the man page |
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13:51.30 | straw | NullAcht15_: thanks, got it. for i in "*.wav"; do oggenc $i -q 6; done :) |
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13:57.16 | picca | anyone had any issues with the power monitor in kde 3.5.7 - i can't get the icon to appear on the taskbar |
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14:01.25 | NullAcht15_ | hm another question maybe: I have the problem that artsd doesn't run on my machine (keeps crashing on startup), but I really want to use juk. I've heard that juk can theoretically also work without arts, using some other backend, but since I can't even start it now, I don't know how to configure it that way. Can anyone help me with that? |
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14:03.06 | jack_ | Hi, is there anyway in Konqueror to get the menu options Tools>Open Terminal? Ive seen it on other installs before, but its missing in my distro :( Is there an extension plugin or something |
14:04.00 | Sho_ | Ten bucks says you're using Kubuntu |
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14:04.48 | jack_ | :) yes i am |
14:04.53 | jack_ | is that a bad thing? |
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14:05.30 | Sho_ | Not necessarily |
14:05.39 | Sho_ | But they do change Konqueror's menus considerably |
14:06.05 | jack_ | wonder how hard it is to hack it back in |
14:06.27 | Sho_ | Best ask in #kubuntu |
14:06.41 | jack_ | ok thanks |
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14:33.06 | l0ckx | i just upgraded from Fedora Core 6 to Fedora 7 and for some reason, when i right-click on file, there is no longer an option to "copy to" or "move to" which i thought was standard in KDE |
14:33.33 | l0ckx | is there any way i can enable this feature...if it is disabled?? |
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14:35.58 | l0ckx | ahh, using KDE 3.5 |
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14:36.25 | GreatLord | Hi |
14:36.29 | GreatLord | I got a question |
14:36.35 | Sho_ | l0ckx: You're missing the "kuick" plugin from kdeaddons |
14:36.37 | GreatLord | about qt |
14:36.54 | l0ckx | Thanks Sho |
14:37.00 | GreatLord | if a close source apps using qt in windows |
14:37.03 | l0ckx | i'll install package kdeaddons |
14:37.05 | GreatLord | which licen it is ? |
14:37.07 | Sho_ | l0ckx: If you install it, you'll get a "Quick Copy & Move" tab in KControl -> KDE Components -> File Manager where you can enable and configure it |
14:37.36 | Sho_ | GreatLord: Trolltech's commercial license, which allows closed source development |
14:37.46 | l0ckx | i think some of my SCIM functionality is being effected from not installing a lot of the KDE pacakges |
14:38.13 | l0ckx | i tried to create a "lite" system....but not installing the things i thought i didn't need...but it's ending up being more of a hassle |
14:38.22 | GreatLord | I found a dll call qt_mt312.dll |
14:38.41 | l0ckx | Thanks Sho_ |
14:38.45 | GreatLord | can I assume it is from qtwin ? |
14:38.53 | Sho_ | GreatLord: looks like it, yup |
14:38.54 | GreatLord | that is under gpl ? |
14:39.16 | Sho_ | GreatLord: Qt 3 for Windows is not available under the GPL, only Trolltech's commercial license |
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14:39.35 | Sho_ | GreatLord: Starting with Qt v4, Qt is available under the GPL for all supported platforms, including Windows |
14:39.36 | GreatLord | and how can I tell which close source apps I found and using qt_mt.dll |
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14:40.12 | GreatLord | and relay the info |
14:40.26 | GreatLord | for more closer check if they break any rules |
14:40.52 | Sho_ | GreatLord: Again, Trolltech makes Qt for Windows available under a commercial license which allows for closed source development |
14:41.03 | Sho_ | GreatLord: That's kind of how Trolltech pays the bills, you know ;) |
14:41.37 | l0ckx | would anybody be able to tell my why my SCIM is resetting my configuration back to the default, every time i log out and then log back in ? |
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15:18.49 | arthur_ | hey |
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15:24.05 | umikael | hello |
15:27.05 | kendrick | hrm |
15:27.07 | umikael | i'm using kate 2.5.6 on KDE 3.5.6 with html syntax highligthing, but the highlight is not present, only the + signs for tag groups, is this the only highligth present in html plugin ? |
15:27.16 | kendrick | is there a way to tell browsers (e.g., konq) to scale an SVG when you <embed> it? |
15:27.24 | kendrick | width and height just clip it to a viewport |
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15:30.26 | umikael | kendrick, what is a 'SVG' ? |
15:30.39 | kendrick | *blink* |
15:30.50 | RushPL | en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SVG |
15:31.22 | kendrick | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SVG http://www.svg.org/ http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/ |
15:31.26 | RushPL | kendrick: I suppose you could do some scripting |
15:31.31 | kendrick | gerf |
15:32.03 | RushPL | you can edit SVG properties with DOM |
15:32.25 | RushPL | dunno about Konq, but FF has that GreaseMonkey addon. |
15:32.33 | RushPL | Opera has user scripts. |
15:33.13 | NullAcht15_ | I just noticed how one of the sample svgs on the wikipedia page is rendered completely wrong in Konqueror |
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15:34.12 | umikael | the guys in wikipedia are using height and width |
15:34.29 | NullAcht15_ | This one: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Diamond-caution.svg (the big picture is a png, click on the link to the svg below it to sse the difference) |
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15:36.35 | kendrick | blah, i'll deal with it later. thx :) |
15:36.52 | NullAcht15_ | Firefox renders it nearly, but not quite, correctly |
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15:39.14 | Vystrix_Nexoth | looks fine in Opera. |
15:39.22 | Vystrix_Nexoth | note that the exclamation point is text, not hard-wired. |
15:39.52 | NullAcht15_ | yepp. I noticed. It's probably a font problem in FF |
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15:40.31 | NullAcht15_ | ... but in Konqueror it only renders a solid black rectangle... |
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15:42.12 | straw | kde3's svg handling is less than spectacular |
15:44.40 | NullAcht15_ | Is it going to be better in KDE 4? |
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15:45.00 | superstoned | well webkit is supposed to do better, and it's gonna be in Qt 4.4. Trolltech also pledged to support it, and get a kpart with proper KDE integration (KIO slaves, kwallet) so yeah, kde 4 is probably gonna use webkit, and have better svg support... |
15:46.45 | NullAcht15_ | hm, wasn't it said recently that newer khtml versions are much better than webkit at rendering HTML and particularly CSS? |
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15:48.29 | Sho_ | NullAcht15_: Regardless of WebKit, Qt 4 has a good SVG renderer (Qt 3 didn't, which is why we wrote KSVG), which will be heavily used throughout KDE 4 |
15:49.26 | stoned | hey |
15:49.31 | stoned | I was just reading about pakistan |
15:49.49 | stoned | its a pretty cool country man, they have atomic bombs and stuff too |
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15:52.38 | Narishma | stoned: what does that have to do with kde ? |
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15:54.18 | NullAcht15_ | Sounds like his nick can be taken literally |
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15:54.38 | kendrick | heh |
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15:54.42 | stoned | people in kde use pakistan |
15:54.56 | Tanja | hi |
15:54.56 | stoned | and I myself contribute to the kde in Urdu localizing project |
15:55.07 | stoned | urdu is the pakistan language |
15:55.09 | stoned | you know |
15:55.25 | stoned | Tanja: hi |
15:55.35 | icwiener | <stoned> people in kde use pakistan |
15:55.36 | anisfarhana | urdu and pustoo |
15:55.38 | icwiener | :) |
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15:55.45 | stoned | oh |
15:55.47 | stoned | haha |
15:55.59 | stoned | omg hehe |
15:56.04 | umikael | did anyone use kate with html syntax highlighting ? |
15:56.30 | stoned | well, pahtu, sindhi, balochi, punjabi, sirayeki, gujrati, hindi |
15:56.34 | NullAcht15_ | umikael, I'm using it regularly at work, with PHP+HTML highlighting |
15:56.51 | umikael | good idea, let me try this scenario |
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15:57.15 | stoned | I mean |
15:57.19 | stoned | people is pakistan use kde |
15:57.58 | umikael | NullAcht15, i have no syntax highlight for HTML, the rest are ok, for C, XML, but for HTML nothing |
15:58.28 | umikael | i searched for a clue, and i think the html plugin is not for highlight, just for tag groups |
15:58.49 | stoned | you see wiener? |
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15:58.55 | stoned | what a crazy nickname |
15:58.57 | stoned | hehe |
15:59.03 | stoned | i c weiners! |
15:59.10 | stoned | no, I just see dead people |
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15:59.17 | icwiener | stoned: I just saw that tou mistyped again. :P |
15:59.20 | NullAcht15_ | umikael, have you tried goiing through the extras menu and enabling HTML highlighting wherever you find it? |
15:59.25 | icwiener | dammit :) |
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16:00.09 | icwiener | stoned: Yeah, it's taken from futurama. |
16:00.22 | stoned | hehe |
16:00.23 | NullAcht15_ | umikael, for me it just worked out of the box, all I had to do was open a file with a .php or .html extension |
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16:00.25 | umikael | NullAcht15, i enabled it in Tools>Highligthing |
16:00.39 | NullAcht15_ | umikael, what distro are you using? |
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16:00.51 | umikael | OpenBSD 4.1 |
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16:01.27 | NullAcht15_ | Does OpenBSD package KDE in some way or have you compiled it manually? |
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16:01.42 | umikael | NullAcht15, can you post somewhere the content of your html.xml file used in katepart for highligth? |
16:01.53 | stoned | is there a theme to make my kde look and function like old mac os8 interface? |
16:01.57 | NullAcht15_ | (I've only ever used OpenBSD on headless server machines) |
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16:02.05 | umikael | NullAcht15, it is prepackaged, no compile on my side |
16:02.24 | NullAcht15_ | umikael, I'll see if I can find it |
16:02.38 | umikael | but i did some compare action on c.xml and html.xml, and they are different in sections |
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16:03.16 | NullAcht15_ | umikael, where is that file usually located? |
16:03.44 | umikael | for me, it is /usr/local/share/apps/katepart/syntax |
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16:06.16 | pcbshelp | i installed gimp, but it wont come in the menu. how do i knoww ot version is installed and how do i run it. |
16:06.21 | NullAcht15_ | umikael, looks like this over here: http://rafb.net/p/VjWGtp72.html |
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16:06.54 | NullAcht15_ | umikael, you could also download the official source files for kdebase and see if you find that file in there somewhere |
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16:07.23 | umikael | NullAcht15, it's the same like me |
16:07.28 | umikael | like mine, i mean |
16:07.33 | neopc | oi a |
16:08.02 | NullAcht15_ | in that case I don't know why it wouldn't work |
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16:08.12 | pcbshelp | can anyone help. |
16:08.26 | umikael | i tried the php file, it works but ONLY for php tags, the HTML are not highlighted |
16:08.33 | pinotree | pcbshelp: nope, gimp is not a kde application |
16:08.44 | pcbshelp | how do i run it from run menu. |
16:08.45 | pinotree | sorry - please ask in the gimp channel |
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16:09.13 | umikael | NullAcht15, do you see colored HTML tags or just tag groups marked by + sign and a vertical line ? |
16:09.18 | NullAcht15_ | pcbshelp, Press Alt-F2, enter gimp, press Enter |
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16:09.57 | NullAcht15_ | umikael, nope, colored html tags with different colors for tagnames, atrributes, attribute values and so on |
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16:10.05 | pcbshelp | nothing runs NullAcht15 but i see an icon changing suggesting its installed? |
16:10.39 | NullAcht15_ | pcbshelp, did you click run afterwards or press Enter? |
16:11.04 | umikael | pcbshelp, open a terminal and type gimp, then see the error messages |
16:11.06 | pcbshelp | i pressed run |
16:11.29 | pcbshelp | /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libintl.so.6" not found, required by "gimp" |
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16:11.34 | pcbshelp | in konsole |
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16:11.54 | umikael | pcbshelp, how did you installed gimp? |
16:12.13 | pcbshelp | i used the inbuilt package manager, but it uses ports to install it anyway. |
16:12.16 | pcbshelp | desktopbsd. |
16:12.20 | umikael | it looks like a dependency is not present |
16:12.26 | NullAcht15_ | pcbshelp, okay, something's wrong with your gimp installation. Since this isn't a problem with starting gimp from kde anymore, I suggest you head to the channel of your distro or to the gimp channel |
16:12.40 | pcbshelp | ok. |
16:13.05 | NullAcht15_ | hm, libintl is a pretty important library isn't it? |
16:15.04 | umikael | i remember it is used alot |
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16:16.23 | NullAcht15_ | I may be wrong, but i think I've read something somewhere that in newer versions of glibc, this is part of libc, so there's no need to link with libintl anymore... |
16:17.32 | umikael | i don't know, dependecies are handled automatically for me |
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16:22.57 | umikael | strange thing , all the *.xml files for kate highlighting have list with keywords, but the ones for html, sgml don't |
16:26.12 | Vystrix_Nexoth | umikael: well, HTML/SGML/XML don't really need arbitrary lists of keywords. it can look for specific ones, but otherwise it's just element names, attribute values, and so forth. |
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16:27.47 | umikael | all i am able to see as a highligth are + signs for tag groups and DOCTYPE written in red, all the tags remaining are not colored :( |
16:28.45 | umikael | and nobody is complaining in disscusion groups, just to find the solution ... |
16:31.44 | ferret_0567 | Open Terminal is a big deal for me |
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16:32.06 | ferret_0567 | how do I add that to the right click on kdesktop desktop menu? |
16:33.03 | NullAcht15_ | ferret_0567, I don't the answer, but isn't it sufficient to just add it to the panel? |
16:33.17 | NullAcht15_ | don't=don't know |
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16:33.34 | straw | ferret_0567: it's 'hard-coded' afaik |
16:34.42 | ferret_0567 | ok |
16:34.51 | ferret_0567 | I'll add it to the panel |
16:34.57 | ferret_0567 | I might change the code later |
16:35.02 | ferret_0567 | a small hack |
16:35.11 | ferret_0567 | nothing much |
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16:35.21 | NullAcht15_ | Anyone here using KDE on a Sun machine? I was wondering how to define a keyboard shortcut for the "On/Off" switch on the keyboard |
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16:36.09 | PhilRod | NullAcht15_: if xev can see it, you can set a shortcut for it - see the user guid |
16:36.11 | PhilRod | guide* |
16:36.29 | NullAcht15_ | PhilRod, which userguide? |
16:36.36 | PhilRod | the one on docs.kde.org |
16:36.45 | PhilRod | or help:/khelpcenter/userguide in konqueror |
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16:37.17 | pcbshelp | ferret_0567: , the right click desktop menu can be changed to right click CUSTOM MENU. if you look at "behaviour" after u click configure desktop |
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16:37.53 | NullAcht15_ | thanks, I'll do that PhilRod |
16:38.37 | pcbshelp | its under "mouse button options" |
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16:39.00 | straw | holy... thanks pcbshelp. i've never noticed that |
16:39.09 | pcbshelp | :) |
16:40.08 | NullAcht15_ | (btw, it does show up in xev) |
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16:46.52 | Mitja | There's a fascinating thing happening when I set the clock. I violently logs me out. And sometimes the clock is back running the old time again. Also the time is again wrong if I reboot. What to do to fix this? |
16:47.49 | ericP | i was configuring konsole's key bindings and was warned that i was stealing the key for the global function "Manually Invoke Action on Current Clipboard" |
16:48.12 | PhilRod | Mitja: sounds like some weird time skew thing. Does the same happen if you set the clock with the 'date' command/ |
16:48.13 | ericP | that got me curious. what's that do? |
16:48.33 | PhilRod | ericP: it's a klipper function - take a look at the klipper docs |
16:48.46 | ericP | PhilRod, roger -- tx |
16:48.52 | Mitja | PhilRod: haven't tried it yet... |
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16:54.01 | Mitja | PhilRod: it doesn't log me out, but kde clock adds two hours to the original setting |
16:54.21 | Mitja | date shows 18:54, kde clock 20:54 |
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16:55.31 | Mitja | ok this is weird |
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16:55.54 | Mitja | date and time dialog window displays the correct time, but the clock in the trash is two hours ahead |
16:56.53 | PhilRod | that's just a UTC/local time thing |
16:56.55 | Mitja | I mean in the sys ashtray |
16:57.23 | PhilRod | "man date" probably explains it |
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16:58.50 | Mitja | date is correct |
16:58.58 | Mitja | systray is wrong |
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17:04.02 | PhilRod | oh, plus you can manually set the timezone for the systray clock. You've probably just set it to the wrong one |
17:04.37 | Mitja | how do i do that' |
17:04.39 | Mitja | ? |
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17:05.46 | icwiener | Mitja: Rightclick the clock and have a look at the context menu. There is a submenu called "set timezone" or so. |
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17:06.46 | Mitja | icwiener: that's set correctly |
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17:06.53 | drzed | re |
17:06.58 | drzed | hi there! |
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17:07.36 | drzed | (how) can i control the front and the size of a font when printing ab website? |
17:08.21 | drzed | at the moment prining websites i.e. wikipedie results in an unreadable small font/printout |
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17:10.52 | Tanja | hi |
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17:11.41 | Mitja | hey Tanja |
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17:12.30 | Tanja | let me gues:you are from Russia |
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17:12.44 | Mitja | no |
17:13.34 | Tanja | oh something new.where are you from |
17:13.46 | Mitja | slo |
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17:13.55 | Tanja | ok |
17:14.00 | Mitja | u? |
17:14.08 | Tanja | serbia |
17:14.28 | Mitja | zdravo |
17:14.59 | Tanja | zdravo 8-) |
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17:16.35 | Mitja | how are things? |
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17:28.09 | Tanja | not bad nothing new |
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17:31.03 | Mitja | PhilRod: seems to be working ok now, after ln -sf /usr/share/zoneinfo/<localtime> /etc/localtime |
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17:40.32 | mikkael | is it normal that firefox progress bars dont work on kde ? |
17:40.47 | litb | mikkael: no |
17:41.02 | mikkael | i installed it from getswiftfox.com |
17:41.13 | litb | perhaps you have some weird style for gtk, like QtCurve or gtk-qt |
17:41.17 | mikkael | also tried it from ubunturepos, but i dont get the scrolbars to work :/ |
17:41.18 | Mitja | try getfirefox.com |
17:41.25 | litb | with gtk-qt being the worst |
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17:41.31 | mikkael | my style is plastik |
17:41.33 | litb | QtCurse is quite good though |
17:41.39 | mikkael | oh for gtk, lets see |
17:42.01 | Sho_ | QtCurve, actually, not Curse ;) |
17:42.02 | litb | tr s v |
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17:43.05 | litb | damn you were some nanosecs faster |
17:43.17 | mikkael | hmm do i need to install qt4 config or qt3 config to set the qt theme thats used by gtk apps |
17:43.35 | litb | what? |
17:43.45 | litb | qt themes ar enot used by gtk apps by definition |
17:43.51 | litb | *are |
17:44.00 | mikkael | in kcontrol you can decide what kde uses for gtk apps |
17:44.10 | litb | install gtk-qt . you get a nice control in kcontrol then |
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17:44.14 | mikkael | "kde's style" or ""qt" |
17:44.19 | mikkael | ah cool |
17:44.20 | litb | there you can choose the gtk style then |
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17:44.33 | Sho_ | mikkael: If you install gtk-qt-engine, it will place a "GTK Styles and Fonts" page in KControl which allows you to select the GTK theme |
17:44.53 | litb | now i was faster :P |
17:45.02 | Sho_ | mikkael: If you chose "KDE's style" or "Qt" (they're equivalent), it will use the style you set for KDE |
17:45.25 | harmony | Hello. Where can I configure custom shortcuts for KDE? |
17:45.30 | mikkael | ok, ill try something there |
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17:45.52 | Sho_ | harmony: KControl -> Regional & Accessibility -> Input Actions |
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17:46.21 | harmony | Sho_ : Thanks, I've been using only GNOME and so I didn'y know |
17:46.41 | Sho_ | harmony: No problem, that's why we're here =) |
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17:48.31 | mikkael | can you recommend a gtk style ? at the moment i can use only raleigh or so |
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17:49.12 | Sho_ | Not in #kde, no ;) |
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17:49.25 | kucrut | anyone know of any kde point-of-sale app? |
17:50.03 | Sho_ | kucrut: sadly, no ... at one time I would have been interested too |
17:50.07 | mikkael | there are so many gtk styles available, dont want to download em all |
17:50.18 | litb | clearlooks rocks |
17:50.23 | kucrut | ooh |
17:50.39 | kucrut | Sho_: know of any good php/web based one? |
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17:51.00 | Sho_ | kucrut: nope |
17:51.03 | litb | i don't know what a point-of-sale is |
17:51.12 | Sho_ | kucrut: I eventually resigned to the fact that I wouldn't be able to actually use them anyhow |
17:51.22 | Sho_ | kucrut: Because legislation here requires certified solutions |
17:51.28 | mikkael | okay |
17:51.35 | kucrut | litb: germany, right? |
17:51.41 | kucrut | Sho_: ^^ |
17:51.44 | Sho_ | kucrut: yep |
17:52.15 | kucrut | Sho_: nice improvements in yakuake :) |
17:52.16 | straw | litb: software that runs a pc-based cash register |
17:52.29 | straw | among other things |
17:52.37 | Sho_ | kucrut: :) |
17:52.49 | litb | what is new to yakuake since the last beta? |
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17:53.40 | Sho_ | litb: Couple of bugfixes mostly; the final release will land soon |
17:54.04 | harmony | Hello. How do I add a custom shortcut key that turns up the volume when I press that key. Also, that key I want to press is a special button on a laptop. |
17:54.05 | mikkael | well theres qtcurve for gtk too :) |
17:54.34 | Sho_ | litb: see http://websvn.kde.org/branches/extragear/kde3/utils/yakuake/ChangeLog?revision=678810&view=markup |
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17:55.23 | kucrut | harmony: try the "configure global shortcuts" in kmix |
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17:55.41 | jacekowski | yakuake+compositing_wm_or_transparancy crashes xorg |
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17:56.36 | litb | not here |
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17:57.02 | harmony | kucrut: It tells me to input a shortcut key. any normal key such as QWERTY etc. is accepted, but I press the additional button on the laptop without inputing it. in gnome it wouold assign it |
17:57.12 | litb | beryl never crashes here |
17:57.24 | litb | and i use yakuake very intensively |
17:57.30 | litb | neither does Xorg |
17:57.47 | kucrut | harmony: so the button is working in gnome but nut in kde? |
17:58.04 | harmony | yes, in gnome it says the button is called something like 0x0ae |
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17:58.05 | jacekowski | do cat /dev/urandom |
17:58.10 | jacekowski | on one console |
17:58.19 | jacekowski | switch to other and close yakuake |
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17:58.35 | litb | that's dangerous |
17:58.43 | jacekowski | why? |
17:58.45 | litb | since the terminal interpretes certain sequences |
17:58.51 | jacekowski | so |
17:58.59 | kucrut | harmony: try 'cat' in konsole and then press the button, what do you get? |
17:59.12 | litb | i don't know which sequences so i don't do it :D |
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17:59.22 | jacekowski | run any program that makes any output |
17:59.33 | jacekowski | ie. cat /dev/urandom |
17:59.35 | litb | for example it can beep, change certain line settings, speed etc.. |
17:59.39 | litb | i don't know whatelse |
17:59.47 | litb | i have bash running |
17:59.48 | harmony | kucrut: doesn't show up. I press the button. on the laptop, the button lights up, but cat show nothing |
17:59.55 | jacekowski | so run hmmmmm |
18:00.10 | litb | for(;;); do echo Haha; done |
18:00.23 | litb | erro (( and )) , not ( and ) |
18:00.23 | jacekowski | hmm this will be ok |
18:00.50 | litb | it runs fine |
18:01.29 | litb | i hold f12 down all the time. and the yakuake window gets really nervous. but no crash |
18:01.29 | kucrut | hmm |
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18:02.04 | jacekowski | switch to other tan |
18:02.06 | jacekowski | tab* |
18:02.17 | jacekowski | and then hide |
18:02.17 | litb | yes |
18:02.34 | jacekowski | X -version? |
18:02.38 | kucrut | harmony: no idea then, sorry. my toshiba buttons are working fine with fnfx |
18:02.47 | litb | no crash |
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18:03.12 | litb | X Window System Version 7.2.0 |
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18:03.46 | Sho_ | jacekowski: I've heard such crash reports, but there's little I can do about it ... what Yakuake does is unusual, but not illegal, and Xorg shouldn't crash |
18:03.48 | harmony | kucrut: hmm, well thanks anyway mate |
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18:05.25 | litb | jacekowski: you use the beta? |
18:06.09 | Sho_ | Yakuake also uncovered a crash bug in kwin |
18:06.23 | jacekowski | 7.0 crashing 7.1 crashing 7.2 crashing |
18:06.24 | Sho_ | It's simply an unusual app that finds bugs others don't |
18:06.51 | jacekowski | 1.2.0-r3 |
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18:07.56 | jacekowski | http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=158395 |
18:08.11 | litb | it could be a bug in freetype perhaps |
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18:15.12 | litb | i really get no crash at all with stable intel drivers |
18:15.24 | litb | even if i do ls -R / or cat /dev/urandom |
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18:15.43 | litb | however i can recall that it crashed sometimes with nvidia drivers |
18:15.48 | litb | so could be a driver problem |
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18:17.13 | litb | hmm, i have to say i like the hide/show effect applied to yakuake |
18:19.22 | Sho_ | litb: It's an important part of the experience ;) |
18:20.08 | litb | i mean the one beryl or other comp. manager applies to it. |
18:20.19 | litb | some ppl doesn't like them |
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18:21.06 | litb | in facti disable the yakuake-own roll effect but enabled the beryl zoom effect to have yakuake zoom from the mouse pointer into its place |
18:21.10 | litb | that looks really great |
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18:23.16 | logixoul | Sho_: btw: to be authentic you'd have to zoom in YaKuake vertically, rather than just slide it :) |
18:23.25 | logixoul | but, close enough :) |
18:23.58 | Sho_ | logixoul: Depends on the Quake version I guess ;) |
18:24.24 | logixoul | ah. my reference "version" is openarena :-) |
18:24.56 | Sho_ | logixoul: Quake 1 and 2 used a slide iirc |
18:25.11 | logixoul | ah k. |
18:25.24 | Skrot- | It did, atleast Quake 2 did |
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19:00.44 | boricua | k3b does not allow me to burn start is greyed out |
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19:01.41 | litb | boricua: you don't have selected a medium to burn to perhaps |
19:01.51 | boricua | i do |
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19:03.10 | boricua | k3b detercs my writer fine |
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19:08.40 | picca | anyone had problems here with the power battery meter not showing in kde 3.5.7 |
19:08.53 | picca | it worked on 3.5.6, but since upgrading i can't get it to appear |
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19:11.21 | HanzZ | can i user crystal icons in my QT app licensed as GPL? |
19:11.25 | HanzZ | *use |
19:11.51 | Sho_ | HanzZ: yup |
19:12.51 | HanzZ | thanks |
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19:17.17 | litb | can one use crystal icons in commercial apps too? |
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19:19.52 | Dr_PsY | hi |
19:19.54 | Dr_PsY | where can i change de charset in kde ? |
19:20.19 | Dr_PsY | i changed the localitation options, but the charset doesn't work |
19:21.18 | jacekowski | locale |
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19:21.23 | jacekowski | and kde-i18n |
19:21.37 | Dr_PsY | the locale is well set |
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19:22.01 | Dr_PsY | i can see all correct with thunar or nautilus, but no with kde programs like konqueror or k3b |
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19:22.57 | Dr_PsY | and I gues the i18n is correct too |
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19:46.34 | Schuenemann | what do I need to watch rmvb? Kaffeine gives me an error about initialization of drvc.so libraries |
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19:52.29 | eNTi | who's "in charge" of knotes? |
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19:53.12 | eNTi | i'd have some ideas how to improve it |
19:53.19 | eNTi | -> bugs.kde.org? |
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20:00.11 | bram85 | eNTi: yes, but check if it hasn't been reported before |
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20:03.36 | eNTi | kk |
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20:10.53 | ccc | Schuenemann: real media codecs probably |
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20:11.21 | Schuenemann | ccc, what do I need? |
20:11.52 | ccc | Schuenemann: better ask your distro channel for the package |
20:12.14 | Schuenemann | doesn't the package have a generic name? |
20:13.03 | Skrot- | no |
20:13.37 | Schuenemann | you know the name to kubuntu? |
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20:16.19 | Freddy2 | hi |
20:16.21 | DexterF | Schuenemann: w32codecs |
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20:16.44 | Schuenemann | DexterF, SeveasPackages? |
20:16.44 | DexterF | add multiverse and medibuntu repositories |
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20:16.53 | DexterF | Schuenemann: what? |
20:17.06 | Freddy2 | is there any way to see the apps from all desktops when you're using more than 1 and you press alt+tab? |
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20:17.33 | Vystrix_Nexoth | Freddy2: depends on what DE or WM (not sure which one is relevant) you're using. |
20:17.37 | Schuenemann | DexterF, I'll add medibuntu |
20:18.21 | Vystrix_Nexoth | ...which would be relevant if this weren't #kde, and I thought it wasn't. never mind me. ^^;; |
20:18.22 | Freddy2 | i suppose it's kwin |
20:18.32 | Vystrix_Nexoth | in too many damn channels |
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20:18.57 | shwouchk | hi |
20:18.58 | shwouchk | how do I associate a protocol with a program in firefox or otherwise? (for instance irc:// with konversation)? |
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20:19.33 | Freddy2 | shwouchk: probably that's not the best channel for this.. try #firefox@irc.mozilla.org |
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20:20.03 | shwouchk | Freddy2: well, I thought I could do it in the entire kde |
20:20.12 | shwouchk | so that itll also work in konq |
20:20.36 | Freddy2 | you're asking for firefox.. it has no relation with kde |
20:23.51 | shwouchk | heh |
20:23.55 | shwouchk | help troll? |
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20:26.08 | iaNK- | Whats a "Swap Partition"? |
20:26.25 | Schuenemann | partition used for virtual memory |
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20:28.08 | pvandewyngaerde | like pagefile.sys on windows, but a whole partition |
20:29.20 | Schuenemann | DexterF, I can't watch them, but no sound |
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20:31.48 | DexterF | what now, Schuenemann you _cant_ watch _and_ have no sound? |
20:32.00 | Schuenemann | sorry |
20:32.05 | Schuenemann | I CAN watch them |
20:32.09 | Schuenemann | =) |
20:32.11 | DexterF | other files have sound? |
20:32.42 | Schuenemann | yes, mp4 |
20:32.43 | Schuenemann | mp3* |
20:32.49 | Schuenemann | I have libxine-extracodecs |
20:33.15 | DexterF | using xine or kaffeine? |
20:33.31 | Schuenemann | kaffeine |
20:33.38 | shwouchk | is there any way I can set what irc:// starts in kde apps? |
20:33.45 | Schuenemann | I only installed w32codecs, but that are other upgradeable packages from medibuntu |
20:34.36 | DexterF | hm. odd. codec thing, I avoid real whereever I can. try mplayer or vlc, see if if they do it, xine (backend behind kaffeine) has always had issues with realplayer files. otherwise try #kubuntu. think there's a spanish chan, too |
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20:40.47 | Schuenemann | DexterF, why would I want a spanish channel? :-p |
20:41.03 | shwouchk | is there any way I can set what irc:// starts in kde apps? |
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20:41.15 | DexterF | Schuenemann: didn't I trace you to spain...? |
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20:41.47 | Schuenemann | you did? |
20:41.54 | DexterF | ah, brazil rather |
20:42.20 | Schuenemann | what kind of voyeur are you? |
20:42.23 | Schuenemann | =] |
20:43.09 | DexterF | I'm the kind of guy who's been around here for 8 years and check on people so I can point them to appropriate channels ;) |
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20:43.23 | H4X | 8 years! |
20:43.24 | Schuenemann | heh ok |
20:43.41 | Schuenemann | I'll try to upgrade the other packages before requesting any more help |
20:43.52 | DexterF | H4X: its 2007, isn't it...? then yes. |
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20:45.28 | H4X | i am sure you are now an op here , right? (8 years one channel is really long time!) |
20:45.35 | H4X | on one* |
20:45.46 | DexterF | H4X: actually my head is what hurts from the n00bs on #kubuntu :D |
20:46.05 | H4X | LOL |
20:46.14 | H4X | Dont kill me , i changed my OS to UBUNTU ;) |
20:46.14 | DexterF | Ops on freenode? heck no I try to have a life actually :) |
20:46.27 | H4X | great for you , most ppl on irc dosnt have one |
20:47.09 | H4X | Btw , i really dont see why people using ubuntu as their first distro when they move to linux (maybe coz they are offering free cds or somethings) |
20:47.23 | DexterF | its fairly easy to use |
20:47.38 | DexterF | tho i think gnome sucks, I use kub rather. |
20:47.50 | DexterF | my opinion |
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20:48.17 | Thorn | [21:47] <DexterF> gnome sucks |
20:48.19 | Thorn | so true |
20:48.21 | Thorn | :P |
20:48.28 | H4X | i moved to #ubuntu yesterday after i get pissed on on Gentoo and LFS |
20:48.38 | H4X | but to tell you the truth i dont like gnome too |
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20:48.54 | DexterF | LFS... I kinda did that, too - slackware. has a package manager tho :) |
20:48.58 | Thorn | I feel that gnome is... incomplete |
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20:49.05 | H4X | (Thats why i am using xfce for now) , KDE is taking alots of my ram thats why i am not going to use it on this laptop |
20:49.19 | DexterF | xfce 4.4 is really neat. |
20:50.01 | H4X | yup , you know what is more neat? (the way it takes you to relaize you cant select your items on your disktop without using your keyboard!) |
20:50.04 | DexterF | the applets are even more useful than in kde imo. |
20:50.36 | H4X | the good thing in it , thats it doesnt take alots of rams , but anyone i ended up with Gnome + Beryl (dont know why i did that) but i did it ;P |
20:51.05 | Thorn | Beryl is failing for me :( |
20:51.10 | Thorn | Desktop cube only works as root |
20:51.17 | Thorn | and i compared the settings, they are exact |
20:51.28 | H4X | its working fine on this laptop (its not good and its working really fasT!) even windows 3.1 wont work this fasT! |
20:51.42 | H4X | Thorn whats your os? |
20:51.47 | Thorn | Currently, Sabayon |
20:51.49 | Thorn | Gentoo based |
20:51.52 | iaNK- | Sabayon |
20:51.54 | iaNK- | Gentoo based |
20:51.54 | iaNK- | Too |
20:52.03 | H4X | I know its gentoo based and its using beryl ;) |
20:52.11 | DexterF | its only eye candy. what's good is dropshadows, makes the desktop a lil clearer, but that's it. not worth the trouble with the current stability and video driver issues |
20:52.22 | Thorn | I've been through Ubuntu Kubuntu Xandros Arch slackware LinuxGame |
20:52.24 | Thorn | and alot others |
20:53.17 | H4X | amm , i'v been throw this week on , fedora , LFS , Gentoo , Slackware , Debian , blah blah blah and many others and finaly i decided to see ubuntu (last time i tried it was 4) |
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20:54.32 | H4X | i had alots of things to do |
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20:55.04 | Thorn | not many distros take full advantage of my 8core8cpu dual SLI 8800GTX 32gb of ram beast |
20:55.16 | H4X | OMG! 8 core and |
20:55.17 | H4X | 3 GB! |
20:55.21 | iaNK- | OMG! |
20:55.24 | iaNK- | 32GB OF RAM! |
20:55.30 | DexterF | yeah right |
20:55.31 | iaNK- | INSANE |
20:55.33 | iaNK- | . |
20:55.34 | H4X | WTF thats even more then 3 GB! |
20:55.48 | iaNK- | i thought my computer was great with 2gb! |
20:55.51 | iaNK- | and you said 32 GB! |
20:55.54 | iaNK- | wtf |
20:55.56 | DexterF | there's no such thing as an 8core-cpu |
20:56.02 | Thorn | DexterF yes there are |
20:56.03 | H4X | i am sure you need to rebuild a kernel for it to use all of that RAM ;) |
20:56.05 | DexterF | he's fucking with you guys |
20:56.12 | iaNK- | i know |
20:56.13 | iaNK- | but |
20:56.13 | Thorn | I see them quite alot in industrial scaled farms |
20:56.14 | iaNK- | its |
20:56.15 | H4X | how much it costs you?! |
20:56.15 | iaNK- | really |
20:56.16 | iaNK- | funny |
20:56.17 | iaNK- | xd |
20:56.18 | H4X | ;p; |
20:56.18 | H4X | lol |
20:56.21 | Thorn | 15k |
20:56.21 | H4X | thats really funny |
20:56.33 | H4X | Thorn are you kidding or saying the truth? |
20:56.37 | Thorn | 12.395 |
20:56.39 | Thorn | Ummm |
20:56.40 | Schuenemann | my computer can solve chess |
20:56.42 | Thorn | kidding ? |
20:56.46 | H4X | (joking) |
20:56.55 | Thorn | no |
20:56.57 | Thorn | its not that |
20:57.03 | Thorn | but my comp is close enough to that |
20:57.06 | DexterF | my computer has gone thru an infinite loop. twice. |
20:57.17 | Schuenemann | you're using the chuck norris distro |
20:57.31 | DexterF | shh! dont tell! :D |
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20:57.46 | H4X | Thorn whats are you doing with such pc?! |
20:57.50 | Thorn | I dont |
20:57.53 | Thorn | er |
20:57.57 | Thorn | well i do |
20:57.59 | Thorn | i just hide it |
20:58.04 | H4X | LOL |
20:58.08 | Thorn | I help do stuff at GlobalDomination INC |
20:58.27 | Thorn | We're pretty close to full preperation of our master plan |
20:58.31 | H4X | Thorn , you know what? |
20:58.40 | H4X | i start liking you |
20:58.47 | H4X | your nick looks s3xy and other shits |
20:58.54 | H4X | can i have root access to your pc? :} |
20:59.10 | Thorn | nah |
20:59.16 | H4X | Come on ;) |
20:59.22 | Thorn | sure |
20:59.31 | Thorn | Heres full SSH access |
20:59.43 | H4X | great 127.0.1 ? |
20:59.46 | Thorn | haha |
20:59.49 | Thorn | I was just about to say that |
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20:59.54 | Thorn | + another 0 btw |
20:59.54 | H4X | lol , i know |
21:00.03 | H4X | i ate that last zero ;) |
21:00.42 | H4X | Thorn did you tried KGB arch ? |
21:00.52 | Thorn | ya |
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21:00.54 | Thorn | er |
21:00.56 | Thorn | no just arch |
21:01.00 | H4X | lol |
21:01.02 | Thorn | I installed it |
21:01.11 | Thorn | and rm -Rf / 'd it |
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21:01.23 | H4X | go a head and try it (people say thats you can compress 700 MB into 1.4 MB) ;) |
21:01.35 | Thorn | lol |
21:01.44 | Thorn | compression has nothing todo with OS |
21:01.55 | cow_2001 | can kaddressbook export contacts with only particular variables? for example, only their emails and not their phone numbers |
21:01.56 | H4X | LOL , i was talking about KGB arch |
21:02.02 | Thorn | oh |
21:02.11 | H4X | *KGB Archiver* |
21:02.18 | Thorn | Bah |
21:02.34 | H4X | i preffer saying Blah xD |
21:02.46 | Thorn | but sheep go bah |
21:02.49 | Thorn | and i'm scottish |
21:02.51 | Thorn | so Bah |
21:03.00 | H4X | i am non-scottish |
21:03.03 | H4X | So BLLAAAAAAAAAAAAH |
21:03.10 | Thorn | Yeah, your probably asian |
21:03.10 | Thorn | :P |
21:03.23 | H4X | LOL , one word and i say MOEEE |
21:03.36 | Thorn | you cow |
21:03.48 | Thorn | wait |
21:03.50 | Thorn | Cows go moo |
21:03.51 | H4X | ... , Cow is better then cowerd ;) |
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21:04.31 | H4X | thorn i was thinking i wrote that with cats and cows ;) (i mispelled it) |
21:04.41 | H4X | *about writting* |
21:04.41 | Thorn | lol |
21:04.43 | H4X | LOL |
21:06.30 | Thorn | er |
21:06.34 | Thorn | i think i better go now O_o |
21:06.38 | cow_2001 | ^_^ |
21:06.49 | cow_2001 | maybe if i go to #kontact |
21:07.06 | Thorn | Milk that! |
21:07.14 | H4X | lol |
21:07.14 | cow_2001 | but it's a developer channel, so asking questions there is a bad thing to do |
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21:07.50 | Thorn | er |
21:07.53 | H4X | (the is S is typo , but even if it is one its enouch for more then chick) xD |
21:07.57 | Thorn | Where is the BootScript normally kept on linux? |
21:08.11 | H4X | did you tried /boot/ ? |
21:08.13 | cow_2001 | i guess you don't know if kaddressbook can export only emails and not phonenumbers |
21:08.15 | Thorn | lol! |
21:08.51 | Thorn | no its not |
21:08.58 | Thorn | boot is just a simlink to .. |
21:09.08 | stoned | hey |
21:09.11 | stoned | hows it goin |
21:09.13 | stoned | I'm at work! |
21:09.15 | Thorn | therefore in boot is boot in boot in boot in boot in boot and so force |
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21:09.27 | Thorn | foarth* |
21:09.36 | stoned | forth |
21:09.58 | Thorn | printf("Bite me") |
21:10.07 | H4X | Great , we got auto spell checking actived here (hopes no one active gramer checking) xD |
21:10.20 | Thorn | isnt is Grammar ? |
21:10.24 | Thorn | isn't* |
21:10.26 | Thorn | er |
21:10.29 | H4X | haha |
21:10.31 | Thorn | Isn't it grammar ? |
21:10.45 | stoned | dude |
21:10.48 | H4X | No it isn't grammar. |
21:10.50 | stoned | smoke less pot than me |
21:10.51 | stoned | please |
21:10.55 | stoned | you're burning out |
21:11.06 | H4X | which one of us? |
21:11.07 | stoned | even I'm not as bad and I'm stoned all the time |
21:11.08 | stoned | damn |
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21:11.15 | stoned | that dude with the forth |
21:11.23 | Thorn | Where is the boot script ? |
21:11.23 | H4X | lol ;) |
21:11.27 | Thorn | its not in /boot |
21:11.33 | H4X | =-> ~.autostart |
21:11.35 | Thorn | stoned , yes i own the forth |
21:11.43 | Thorn | I own the forth rail bridge |
21:12.02 | stoned | you're a rail bridge |
21:12.03 | stoned | shush |
21:12.21 | Thorn | So, where is the boot script? |
21:12.36 | H4X | =-> ~.autostart or in one of sessons folder |
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21:12.51 | Thorn | ugh |
21:12.52 | Thorn | you sure? |
21:13.12 | H4X | i really didnt understand what is your questions but i am sure from what i said ;) |
21:14.08 | Thorn | probably |
21:14.11 | Thorn | where is .autostart? |
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21:14.49 | H4X | =-> bash ; cd ~ ; cd .autostart || cd ~.autostart |
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21:15.55 | Thorn | Nerd |
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21:34.17 | bram85 | konqueror proxies: how can i manage that DNS requests are handled by the proxy and not my own box? |
21:34.18 | JoeBlacken | Hi, how can I change the character encoding in KDE? |
21:35.16 | Schuenemann | JoeBlacken, I think that's application-specific |
21:35.41 | Schuenemann | you aren't thinking about changing the KDE encoding to windows encoding, are you? |
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21:36.10 | JoeBlacken | Schuenemann, no, but I think my current encoding is not UTF8, and I want to make UTF8 |
21:36.24 | Schuenemann | oh... |
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21:43.21 | stoned | hey |
21:43.29 | stoned | don't call people nerds like its a bad thing |
21:43.30 | stoned | man |
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21:45.28 | stoned | she here/ |
21:45.29 | stoned | ? |
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21:45.47 | anisfarhana | im not sure , might be busy |
21:45.48 | canllaith | adik gila! |
21:45.57 | anisfarhana | and now she is here |
21:46.06 | canllaith | I heard my adik gila ;) |
21:46.06 | anisfarhana | haha |
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21:46.12 | canllaith | Good! At work :( |
21:46.22 | anisfarhana | ahh |
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21:46.57 | anisfarhana | canllaith: ah ok , just wanna say hi , it's long time not see you around here |
21:46.59 | canllaith | apt-get install `apt-cache search 'openoffice.org-style-*'|awk '{print $1}'` |
21:47.00 | canllaith | oops |
21:47.17 | canllaith | :) Definitely. You can keep talking to me, I am not that busy |
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21:47.45 | anisfarhana | canllaith: aha , i scared if i just disturbing you , hehe kakak gila ;p |
21:48.29 | anisfarhana | canllaith: hope can see you always here :) |
21:48.50 | stoned | canllaith: hi |
21:49.01 | canllaith | Hey stoned |
21:49.07 | canllaith | anisfarhana: yup :) |
21:49.08 | stoned | whats goin on |
21:49.30 | stoned | I woke up with the most painful heartburn today |
21:49.35 | canllaith | :( |
21:49.36 | anisfarhana | canllaith: i can see you are very busy lately , it's about 1 year |
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21:49.46 | stoned | ouch |
21:49.55 | stoned | anisfarhana: farhana is a beautiful name |
21:50.09 | anisfarhana | stoned: do u know what is farhana ? |
21:50.14 | stoned | but anis is a guy name, while farhana is a girls name |
21:50.22 | stoned | why a nick with two sexes? |
21:50.33 | anisfarhana | stoned: you're wrong then :) |
21:50.39 | stoned | I don't think I am |
21:50.50 | anisfarhana | stoned: where are u come from |
21:50.53 | canllaith | Not in her language |
21:50.55 | stoned | pakistan |
21:51.00 | anisfarhana | :) |
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21:51.36 | stoned | Anis is not a girls name afaik, in all my life, I've met hundreds of Anis but no woman named Anis |
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21:52.03 | straw | well now you have |
21:52.04 | stoned | I've met tons of women named Farhana but not a guy, guys are named Farhan without the 'a' at the end |
21:52.09 | anisfarhana | stoned: unfortunately i'm not from pakistan , and you have to asked my parents to get better explanation for my name |
21:52.17 | stoned | anisfarhana: where are you from? |
21:52.23 | stoned | turkey? |
21:52.23 | anisfarhana | stoned: .MY |
21:52.28 | stoned | my? |
21:52.32 | canllaith | malaysia |
21:52.34 | stoned | oh |
21:52.39 | stoned | hey cool |
21:52.44 | stoned | how is it down there? |
21:52.59 | stoned | I've never been to malaysia |
21:53.15 | stoned | that I do know |
21:53.22 | stoned | Kuala lampur |
21:53.24 | anisfarhana | 5.54 am and i still don't get my sleep yet , working at 8.00 am though |
21:53.34 | stoned | anisfarhana: what do you do? |
21:53.42 | canllaith | and I have the worst bahasa melayu skills ever, right anisfarhana ? :) |
21:53.43 | tuxick | call centre :) |
21:53.47 | stoned | ah |
21:53.55 | stoned | I worke din a few of those |
21:53.56 | anisfarhana | canllaith: no you are doing great on it :D |
21:54.03 | canllaith | heh you are too nice |
21:54.03 | stoned | Cox, AOL, lately Dell |
21:54.37 | stoned | anisfarhana: you're muslim? |
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21:54.47 | anisfarhana | canllaith: at least u know bahasa melayu compare to other people , the problem is with me , still not good in english :( |
21:54.54 | canllaith | Your English is great. |
21:54.57 | anisfarhana | stoned: yes i am a muslim :) |
21:55.04 | stoned | anisfarhana: salaamualaikum |
21:55.11 | anisfarhana | stoned: wsalam wbt |
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21:55.23 | stoned | you speak well enough |
21:55.36 | canllaith | My Malay is only good for ordering food and asking directions really. |
21:55.41 | anisfarhana | stoned: when u want to come here again ? |
21:55.43 | stoned | you have some poor grammar skills but that is to be expected. When I first came to america my grammar sucked |
21:55.59 | anisfarhana | canllaith: it's Visit Malaysia 2007 for this year |
21:56.04 | canllaith | and English is a nasty nasty language |
21:56.07 | canllaith | Malay is very consistant. |
21:56.14 | canllaith | At least, my baby-skills have found it to be so far :) |
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21:56.22 | anisfarhana | canllaith <-- cewek ayu |
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21:56.44 | stoned | Malay in my language means like, when you boil milk, or heat it up, and let it cool, it gets a thick film of fatty creamy stuff on top, thats called Malay |
21:56.48 | anisfarhana | canllaith: don't tell me u don't know what is 'cewek' |
21:56.56 | stoned | they use that in lots of indian/pakistani sweets |
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21:57.19 | canllaith | anisfarhana: no, I do'nt know cewek |
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21:57.25 | stoned | baby skills? |
21:57.29 | stoned | you got kids? |
21:57.44 | canllaith | No as in my ability to speak Malay is akin to that of a 2 year old infant ;) |
21:57.44 | stoned | I have no baby skills |
21:57.48 | stoned | oh |
21:57.57 | stoned | well I still have no baby skills |
21:57.58 | anisfarhana | canllaith: cewek - girl while ayu is beautiful , so you're beautiful girl ;p |
21:57.59 | canllaith | anisfarhana: saya tak faham |
21:58.02 | canllaith | ahhh |
21:58.04 | stoned | I could maybe change a diaper here and there |
21:58.09 | stoned | or maybe feel some baby from a bottle |
21:58.11 | stoned | but thats about it |
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21:58.13 | canllaith | anisfarhana: I think that word is different in bahasa indonesia |
21:58.18 | anisfarhana | canllaith: cewek isn't malay , it's indonesia lang |
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21:58.19 | stoned | feed* |
21:58.21 | canllaith | stoned: I have mad l33t baby skills |
21:58.27 | canllaith | anisfarhana: hah then I am doubly stupid for not knowing =) |
21:58.29 | stoned | well yeh |
21:58.31 | stoned | cuz you're a girl |
21:58.34 | stoned | I'm not |
21:59.04 | stoned | you're genetically programmed to have mad l33t baby skilz0rs |
21:59.08 | canllaith | ah it is slang! |
21:59.13 | anisfarhana | canllaith: where is uncle bob ? |
21:59.24 | canllaith | Not on this IRC |
21:59.28 | anisfarhana | i don't see him about 1-2 years |
21:59.29 | stoned | uncle bob? |
21:59.30 | canllaith | Do you use msn ? I can give you his msn address |
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22:00.21 | anisfarhana | stoned: uncle bob and canllaith --> they are first person introduce to me what is KDE in Linux :) |
22:00.27 | stoned | ahh |
22:00.27 | canllaith | :) |
22:00.34 | stoned | I thougoht you were gonna say sittin in a tree.... |
22:00.36 | stoned | hehe |
22:00.39 | canllaith | My ex b/f, actually. Very ex. From a very long time ago. |
22:00.43 | stoned | ahh |
22:00.49 | stoned | so you DID sit in a tree with him |
22:00.52 | stoned | hah, I was right |
22:00.59 | anisfarhana | stoned: i learn linux from 0 and now at least i know little bit about kde and linux |
22:01.07 | stoned | anisfarhana: very good |
22:01.12 | canllaith | anisfarhana: he uses jabber and msn. Can give you either if you want. |
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22:01.18 | stoned | anisfarhana: the main thing is, do you know how to cook? |
22:01.20 | canllaith | on IRC I don't think he's on this server anymore |
22:01.32 | anisfarhana | canllaith: i don't use jabber or msn , can you give me his email address ? |
22:01.36 | *** join/#kde KanRiNiN (n=root@152.160.38.184) |
22:01.38 | canllaith | Yes. I will ask him if it is ok. |
22:01.45 | qupada | hey canllaith, long time no see |
22:01.49 | stoned | qupada: !! |
22:01.53 | anisfarhana | stoned: hoho..you're funny ;p |
22:01.57 | stoned | hey man with the million dollar nickname |
22:01.57 | canllaith | qupada: hey you |
22:02.00 | qupada | hey stoned. what's up? |
22:02.00 | KanRiNiN | Hey, I'm on day two of a 3.5.6 compile. Has anyone compiled on a lowly pentium-m before? How long of a time can i expect? |
22:02.00 | Anarky | I there |
22:02.07 | anisfarhana | stoned: i even know how to make tosai okay :) |
22:02.15 | stoned | anisfarhana: marry me! |
22:02.28 | stoned | well polygamy works in our religion but not in usa |
22:02.30 | stoned | nevermind |
22:02.38 | canllaith | KanRiNiN: Yes. Not two days. |
22:02.38 | stoned | hehe |
22:02.41 | stoned | hey hey what?! |
22:02.48 | anisfarhana | now talking about polygamy with me huh |
22:02.53 | stoned | I am? |
22:02.56 | Anarky | isn't everybody at akademy |
22:02.57 | canllaith | Bad stoned. |
22:03.03 | stoned | hey I didn't! |
22:03.05 | KanRiNiN | canllaith: so it should finish soon? I'm doing a FreeBSD 6.2 compile |
22:03.06 | stoned | I'd never! |
22:03.35 | stoned | anisfarhana: in our religion I can marry you, and 2 other women, alongside my original wife |
22:03.37 | canllaith | KanRiNiN: Totally, yes, it should |
22:03.38 | stoned | legally |
22:03.44 | stoned | but you know, they don't allow that in usa |
22:03.57 | stoned | anyway, my woman is more than enough, she could learn how to cook a little more but |
22:03.59 | stoned | you know, its ok |
22:04.10 | anisfarhana | stoned: max to 4 wife , i know about it :) |
22:04.19 | KanRiNiN | canllaith: KOffice took the longest. That itself was a 3 hour ordeal |
22:04.21 | canllaith | Yeah |
22:04.22 | anisfarhana | stoned: but honestly , im going to share my husban with others :) |
22:04.32 | anisfarhana | *im not going |
22:04.33 | stoned | what? |
22:04.35 | stoned | oh |
22:04.36 | canllaith | heh |
22:04.37 | stoned | I was about to say |
22:04.39 | stoned | lol damn |
22:04.42 | stoned | count me in |
22:04.43 | stoned | lol |
22:05.06 | Anarky | lol |
22:05.08 | straw | lol |
22:05.09 | stoned | but woudln't it be nice |
22:05.14 | stoned | #kde would have a story |
22:05.23 | Anarky | stoned: #kde-dating ? |
22:05.25 | stoned | these two came, fell in love with kde, and then in love with each other |
22:05.33 | stoned | kde would have a story to tell |
22:05.39 | stoned | canllaith: i see |
22:05.43 | straw | i can't even imagine more than one wife... |
22:05.44 | stoned | canllaith: no no no, can' tmove on |
22:05.48 | canllaith | hahaha |
22:05.52 | canllaith | Another developer, a while ago. |
22:05.57 | Anarky | I think it would be quite hard for women |
22:05.58 | stoned | gege |
22:06.11 | stoned | was it uncle bob? |
22:06.16 | canllaith | No |
22:06.18 | stoned | hehe |
22:06.24 | anisfarhana | straw: stoned is good on imagination okay :) |
22:06.33 | straw | heh |
22:06.34 | stoned | stoned is good on everything |
22:06.36 | injekciona | i need a help. I've installed crossover 6 and adobe photoshop 7 on my sabayon .Everything was fine during the installation but when i start my photoshop it starts but in the next few seconds it just close and stop working. 10x a lot |
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22:06.53 | canllaith | injekciona: Probably better to ask either crossover office support or #sabayon |
22:06.54 | evil64 | hi, how do i get firefox to recognize my kde mime types i cannot open anything with firefox without selecting application to open with first? |
22:06.56 | stoned | photoshop? through wine? |
22:07.03 | stoned | oh crossoer |
22:07.22 | stoned | should I roll a joint? or use my pip? |
22:07.28 | stoned | pipe*? any votes? |
22:07.40 | Anarky | evil64: right click |
22:07.42 | StealthCP | pipe, definitely. |
22:07.43 | stoned | whoah |
22:07.46 | stoned | anymore!? |
22:07.50 | canllaith | hahaha |
22:07.51 | stoned | haha, word girl |
22:07.52 | Anarky | properties |
22:07.54 | stoned | word! |
22:08.23 | Anarky | then, the little icon with the ... well I don't know what it's called |
22:08.24 | anisfarhana | k im going to sleep |
22:08.30 | stoned | night |
22:08.42 | Anarky | however, there's only one button there |
22:08.42 | Anarky | then choose firefox |
22:08.43 | Sho_ | evil64: Firefox uses shared-mime, which KDE will adopt in 4.0 |
22:08.44 | anisfarhana | gud night Mr Polygamy |
22:08.48 | canllaith | Anarky: selamat malam adik gila =) |
22:09.06 | Anarky | canllaith: uh ... |
22:09.06 | canllaith | oops |
22:09.07 | anisfarhana | canllaith: selamat malam cewek ayu ;p |
22:09.12 | canllaith | anisfarhana: selamat malam |
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22:09.16 | Anarky | ok |
22:09.23 | canllaith | anisfarhana: to sleep - selemat tidur ? |
22:09.27 | stoned | selamat in my language means peace |
22:09.31 | stoned | gila means wet though |
22:09.33 | cow_2001 | can kaddressbook export only one field in my contact list? emails but not phone numbers, for example? |
22:09.37 | canllaith | That's why it is a greeting =) |
22:09.40 | anisfarhana | canllaith: selamat tidur , correct :) |
22:09.42 | canllaith | ah, gila is 'crazy' |
22:09.47 | stoned | ahh |
22:09.49 | canllaith | anisfarhana: selamat tidur :) |
22:09.57 | canllaith | She calls her her crazy big sister and I call her my crazy little sister. |
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22:10.07 | canllaith | s/her her/me her/ |
22:10.28 | anisfarhana | canllaith: maybe i should call stoned is abang gila LOL ;p |
22:10.29 | stoned | what happend to renze? |
22:10.31 | canllaith | hah |
22:10.34 | stoned | anybody know? |
22:10.37 | stoned | and annma |
22:10.46 | canllaith | conference for annma I imagine |
22:10.49 | Sho_ | stoned: annma is in Glasgow right now, for the KDE Developer Conference |
22:10.49 | anisfarhana | stoned: do you know Renze ? |
22:10.59 | Sho_ | stoned: As for Renze, dunno ... I was wondering the other day, too |
22:11.00 | stoned | yeh |
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22:11.41 | anisfarhana | canllaith , slayerbob , Renze , anmma , Philrod - they are really good! |
22:12.19 | anisfarhana | stoned: i still keep in touch with Renze |
22:12.27 | stoned | where is he? |
22:12.32 | stoned | tell him to come back on irc |
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22:12.51 | Sho_ | canllaith: You're not in Glasgow? |
22:12.55 | anisfarhana | stoned: don't know , he want to off for a while using IRC , i guess :) |
22:13.18 | stoned | glasgow scotland? |
22:13.44 | anisfarhana | stoned: he don't want to use IRC because he just bought ps3! haha :D |
22:14.02 | stoned | heh |
22:14.04 | stoned | ps3 sucks |
22:14.04 | canllaith | Sho_: No, every second year for me :) |
22:14.10 | stoned | xbox sucks too |
22:14.11 | stoned | pc rules! |
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22:14.14 | anisfarhana | aaa ok ok , sleep time.. |
22:14.15 | anisfarhana | -x- |
22:14.34 | stoned | anisfarhana: type /mode anisfarhana +sleep |
22:14.39 | stoned | instant dreamland |
22:14.47 | canllaith | Sho_: I can't take the time off work at the moment, there's just too much on |
22:15.09 | Sho_ | canllaith: yeah, same here :/ it's either the timing or the money that doesn't work out, every time |
22:15.18 | canllaith | Exactly |
22:15.29 | canllaith | Although you could get sponsored surely |
22:15.46 | stoned | I hate work |
22:15.48 | stoned | fuck work man |
22:15.53 | Sho_ | I'd be happy to have an Akademy in Germany again, although I think we really need to try and do one in NA some time for the exposure |
22:15.56 | stoned | I hate any job |
22:16.08 | stoned | work takes too much time away from the things I want to do |
22:16.14 | stoned | then again, to eat, you must work |
22:16.15 | stoned | its bullshit man |
22:16.18 | stoned | I tell ya |
22:17.33 | stoned | I can't |
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22:17.48 | stoned | I would like to get paid for smoking pot and sleeping |
22:17.56 | stoned | thats not gonna happen |
22:17.56 | canllaith | heh |
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22:18.27 | stoned | :) |
22:18.30 | stoned | anisfarhana: good night |
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22:18.59 | n4pp3lbl00d | hello @ all. How can i cange my kde and linux to german langauge? |
22:19.06 | EruditeH1rmit | hi, can anyone help me with midi in KDE? |
22:19.14 | stoned | EruditeH1rmit: what do you want? ask |
22:19.30 | stoned | n4pp3lbl00d: go to kcontrol |
22:19.39 | stoned | regional and accessibility |
22:19.48 | stoned | country/region & language |
22:19.53 | EruditeH1rmit | stoned: I don't know how to set it up, I have kguitar running but no sound because it needs midi to work |
22:20.04 | stoned | EruditeH1rmit: which distro? |
22:20.14 | stoned | EruditeH1rmit: you should install timidity and freepats or something |
22:20.17 | EruditeH1rmit | stoned: debian |
22:20.26 | stoned | EruditeH1rmit: aptitude install timidity freepats |
22:20.27 | EruditeH1rmit | stoned: already installed timidity |
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22:21.00 | EruditeH1rmit | ok I'm installing freepats |
22:21.07 | stoned | kguitar huh? |
22:21.10 | stoned | you play? |
22:21.11 | EruditeH1rmit | stoned: do I need to restart KDE or anything to get it to work? |
22:21.13 | EruditeH1rmit | stoned: yeah |
22:21.15 | n4pp3lbl00d | how can i fnd kcontrol? or is this the normal Controle Center? |
22:21.18 | stoned | what do you play? |
22:21.22 | stoned | and what do you play with? |
22:21.35 | Sho_ | n4pp3lbl00d: It's the normal Control Center |
22:21.35 | EruditeH1rmit | I'm trying to perfect over the hills and far away |
22:21.38 | stoned | EruditeH1rmit: not at all, just play a midi file to check it |
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22:21.59 | stoned | n4pp3lbl00d: you also have to install the locale for your distro |
22:22.18 | stoned | n4pp3lbl00d: and another distro specific thing too I dunno |
22:22.21 | n4pp3lbl00d | yes right, there is a menu to change the languages but i can only use englisch there are no other |
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22:22.38 | stoned | you have to install the particular locale |
22:22.41 | stoned | language |
22:22.49 | stoned | ask in your distro's irc channel |
22:23.14 | stoned | EruditeH1rmit: did it work? |
22:23.35 | stoned | EruditeH1rmit: what kind of music do you like to play? How long have you been playing? You have anything recorded? |
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22:24.59 | EruditeH1rmit | I have been playing for about 2.5 years I like playing anything but I am limited to mostly classic rock because the tabs are easy to find and I like them. Not good enough to record things, its mainly for fun |
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22:25.18 | EruditeH1rmit | I am not very musically talented |
22:25.29 | EruditeH1rmit | anything that I do is shear effort |
22:25.46 | EruditeH1rmit | I like Led Zep |
22:25.51 | EruditeH1rmit | stoned: its not working yet |
22:28.12 | stoned | works here |
22:28.31 | stoned | cool man |
22:28.36 | stoned | good man you're a kid? |
22:28.41 | stoned | like 16-17? |
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22:29.02 | EruditeH1rmit | 20 |
22:29.06 | EruditeH1rmit | http://rafb.net/p/ERAT7C38.html |
22:29.06 | stoned | word man |
22:29.31 | stoned | man I dunno what that means |
22:29.33 | stoned | ask in #debian |
22:29.58 | EruditeH1rmit | ok |
22:30.01 | EruditeH1rmit | thanks for the help |
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22:31.17 | stoned | hey |
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22:51.00 | garrettkajmowicz | I'm SSHd into a remote machine and I need to enable desktop sharing for the auto-login account. How should I go about doing this? |
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22:51.48 | stoned | ok |
22:51.50 | stoned | I got some beef |
22:52.10 | stoned | does anyone else find the glass break sound when you make an error in kde annoying? |
22:52.23 | stoned | on a loud system it really puts a hurtin on ya |
22:52.38 | Sho_ | stoned: yeah, it's very jarring |
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22:57.23 | yngwin | well, you can change it |
22:57.26 | jacekowski | stoned: better than flash popups |
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22:58.52 | garrettkajmowicz | How do I edit the config file to get remote desktop sharing to start on login? |
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23:01.55 | W6BI | My LUG is doing an Installfest of Kubuntu at a PC Club. Can someone point me to a 'basics of KDE' tutorial we can print for a handout? |
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23:08.18 | garrettkajmowicz | I need to enable desktop sharing on a machine I have remotely SSHd into. How do I do this? |
23:08.52 | TheSimkin | garrettkajmowicz: go a different way |
23:08.56 | TheSimkin | garrettkajmowicz: what distro? |
23:09.18 | jacekowski | x11vnc |
23:09.36 | Shirakawasuna | could someone do me a favor by downloading the Buuf icon theme from kde-look.org and telling me why it doesn't build? :) |
23:09.59 | TheSimkin | garrettkajmowicz: what works awesome is xrdp |
23:10.10 | garrettkajmowicz | TheSimkin: I'm using Ubuntu 6.10. I just need to know what files I need to modify in my home dir so it starts on login. |
23:10.49 | garrettkajmowicz | TheSimkin: If you can tell me how to set it up to work on my currently running desktop through an SSH session, I'll try it. |
23:10.53 | TheSimkin | i don't know the answer to that unfortunately garrettkajmowicz. but xrdp is a great way to get remote connectivity and it runs as a service so you don't need to worry about desktop sharing. |
23:11.04 | TheSimkin | garrettkajmowicz: or nxserver and nxclient |
23:12.00 | TheSimkin | garrettkajmowicz: in gentoo you just emerge xrdp.. hopefully in ubuntu you can just apt-get install xrdp ? |
23:12.21 | garrettkajmowicz | TheSimkin: The thing is that I *want* desktop sharing - it's my machine at work and I'd like to be able to take control of it. Problem is that if I need to go to my desktop to set this up, I need to make a 30 minute round trip drive tonight. |
23:12.44 | TheSimkin | garrettkajmowicz: ahhh. |
23:12.57 | TheSimkin | garrettkajmowicz: why not do this, run kcontrol remotely through ssh forwarding. |
23:13.09 | TheSimkin | garrettkajmowicz: then set it up the way you want, restart X (with autologin) |
23:13.30 | TheSimkin | i can't think of any way to make your current desktop shared. |
23:14.22 | stoned | hey |
23:14.22 | garrettkajmowicz | That's alright - I'll try the autologin trick. |
23:14.23 | stoned | what now |
23:15.32 | stoned | garrettkajmowicz: ssh into your box, and install stuff, configure it, run it, and connect via rdp or vnc or nx or whatever |
23:15.35 | stoned | whats the problem? |
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23:16.22 | garrettkajmowicz | Just trying to get the configuration settings that I need. I forgot about remotely launching kcontrol, though. |
23:16.25 | stoned | with vnc, you don't need that stuff |
23:16.31 | stoned | vnc will spawn a desktop session for you |
23:16.54 | stoned | don't need to login for that, just ssh into your box, setup vnc, run vncserver, and connect to it from wherever |
23:16.58 | garrettkajmowicz | I don't want a new desktop - I want to be able to use my old desktop. |
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23:17.08 | stoned | is your old desktop running/ |
23:17.09 | stoned | ? |
23:17.42 | stoned | so you're already logged into it, and a desktop is running, which you want to see? |
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23:18.56 | garrettkajmowicz | No - I want to be able to use my desktop at work and leave long-running processes open in a window. Then I can come home and VNC over to see what's going on. I don't need to keep my current desktop, but I would like to be able to set up everything remotely so I can work from home tommorow. |
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23:19.41 | padde | garrettkajmowicz: check out freenx or nxserver-freeedition |
23:20.39 | stoned | garrettkajmowicz: install vncserver on your work pc and run it on a display. Then connect to yourself with vncclient and in that desktop do all your stuff and leave it, then vnc from anywhere and access tht desktop |
23:21.09 | stoned | im sure vnc can share the already running desktop and you dont have to run another |
23:21.13 | stoned | I dunno |
23:21.37 | stoned | vnc should be able to serv up an already runing desktop |
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23:24.00 | HaSH | hello all can anyone tell me how i can get the tabs in ktorrent to all be in one tab....like it was b4? |
23:24.07 | HaSH | im now using 2.2 |
23:24.23 | HaSH | and dont see any optioin to make both uploads and downloads to all be in the same window. |
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23:25.40 | W6BI | stoned: It can. |
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23:39.07 | baskus | is kde gonna be cool when 4.0 comes out? |
23:40.11 | slapz | kde is already cool ;P |
23:40.27 | sabayonlive-2206 | hi |
23:40.53 | sabayonlive-2206 | im installin 3.3 sabayon but i need to no if kde is good |
23:41.50 | sabayonlive-2206 | then i need to no if sabayon will see other os's in the tower or if i will need to do something |
23:42.09 | mobtek | baskus: it's prolly won't be as stable to begin with but the new features will be rather snazzy :) |
23:42.30 | mobtek | sabayonlive-2206: ask in your os channel, as to kde it's very good :) |
23:42.48 | sabayonlive-2206 | ok |
23:42.57 | baskus | mobtek, ok :) |
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23:43.37 | baskus | mobtek, Im a gnome guy, too many widgets and stuff in kde for me, but Im definately gonna try kde 4 |
23:43.43 | baskus | seems cool |
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23:43.57 | stoned | widgets? |
23:44.01 | baskus | ye |
23:44.03 | stoned | too many? |
23:44.07 | stoned | what do you mean? |
23:44.10 | baskus | toolbars and buttons and everything allover |
23:44.13 | stoned | be more specific about what you don't like |
23:44.20 | baskus | w8 |
23:44.34 | stoned | you don't like the fact that you can color invidual items which you can't do with gtk apps |
23:45.19 | baskus | well |
23:45.39 | baskus | seems to me the kde devs dont try to keep things simple |
23:45.47 | baskus | and clean |
23:46.05 | stoned | how? |
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23:46.09 | stoned | give exmaples man |
23:46.22 | baskus | like the konqueror config for example |
23:47.06 | baskus | in the settings menu for starters |
23:47.21 | baskus | too much stuff :P |
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23:47.34 | baskus | all starts with Configure |
23:47.44 | baskus | hard to get the right one by just scanning |
23:47.58 | stoned | so you don't like to read? |
23:48.12 | baskus | well |
23:48.23 | stoned | what are you doing on a computer ? |
23:48.30 | baskus | ofc I dont mind reading or I wouldnt sit in irc talking about computer stuff :P |
23:48.44 | baskus | I mean |
23:48.59 | baskus | what a user want when they hit Settings is set things up |
23:49.07 | baskus | not read the whole menu |
23:49.12 | baskus | get the right button fast |
23:49.23 | stoned | a few items could have been placed in view |
23:49.45 | baskus | hehe |
23:49.46 | stoned | like like the hiding of the menubars and toolbars |
23:49.51 | stoned | those should belong under View menu |
23:49.52 | stoned | not settins |
23:49.54 | baskus | why the hell is Security in view? |
23:50.01 | baskus | ye |
23:50.37 | stoned | you get used to it |
23:50.41 | stoned | I just can't use gnome |
23:50.43 | stoned | it pisses me off |
23:50.51 | stoned | it doesn't work like the way I want it to |
23:50.52 | stoned | kde does |
23:50.57 | baskus | I think its beatiful :P |
23:51.08 | baskus | most of it anyway |
23:51.14 | straw | i find gnome's been designed for simpletons |
23:51.25 | baskus | all u (I) wanna do is there right where it is supposed to |
23:51.31 | baskus | pff |
23:51.54 | baskus | I would definatly call myself a poweruser |
23:52.03 | baskus | and I still prefer simplicity over complexity |
23:52.21 | baskus | and then if I wanna config something unusual I just go to gconf-editor |
23:52.27 | baskus | where EVERYTHING is |
23:52.31 | baskus | I like that |
23:52.44 | baskus | ah |
23:52.54 | baskus | I shouldnt spam ur channel with gnome stuff sry :P |
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