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| 00:00.30 | wert613 | hmm ok |
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| 00:00.44 | wert613 | nope =( |
| 00:00.58 | wert613 | the buttons under the google txt box are still light gray |
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| 00:01.50 | pcbshelppp | screenshot |
| 00:02.03 | wert613 | theyre in the screenie i posted before |
| 00:02.29 | pcbshelppp | no buttons under google txt box. |
| 00:02.33 | wert613 | ? |
| 00:02.51 | pcbshelppp | u mean in the web browser? |
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| 00:02.54 | pcbshelppp | or the toolbars? |
| 00:03.02 | pcbshelppp | the google "search" buttons? |
| 00:03.11 | wert613 | yeh |
| 00:03.14 | wert613 | the search buttons |
| 00:03.23 | wert613 | they are just grey boxes |
| 00:03.41 | kubuntian | hello everybody, how can i avoid automatic indentation right after a \begin{equation}\end.... environment? |
| 00:03.42 | wert613 | every other button is fine |
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| 00:04.35 | pcbshelppp | night be using s style sheet for those........ |
| 00:04.39 | pcbshelppp | check this menu..... |
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| 00:05.19 | pcbshelppp | settings > configure konquere > style sheets |
| 00:05.25 | pcbshelppp | see if any style sheet is put there. |
| 00:05.38 | wert613 | just the default |
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| 00:07.09 | pcbshelppp | do u have firefox? |
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| 00:07.17 | pcbshelppp | check if it has the same button style. |
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| 00:08.20 | wert613 | ahh ok |
| 00:08.22 | wert613 | ill check |
| 00:08.36 | pcbshelppp | then we know its ur theme and not particularly konquerer :) |
| 00:08.40 | wert613 | =D |
| 00:08.52 | pcbshelppp | u know wot im saying :) |
| 00:09.08 | wert613 | firefox seems fine but it isnt a kde program.... |
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| 00:09.26 | pcbshelppp | check a kde program then. |
| 00:09.30 | wert613 | lol ok |
| 00:09.41 | pcbshelppp | lol |
| 00:09.45 | pcbshelppp | dont ask which one. |
| 00:09.49 | wert613 | =D |
| 00:09.50 | pcbshelppp | coz i dont know. |
| 00:10.06 | pcbshelppp | it starts with K :) thats a good hint. |
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| 00:11.22 | wert613 | everything else is fine |
| 00:11.22 | wert613 | so its konqueror |
| 00:11.36 | wert613 | ive tried a whole bunch of different themes also |
| 00:11.44 | pcbshelppp | same thing? |
| 00:11.45 | wert613 | they only change other prog |
| 00:11.51 | wert613 | yeh |
| 00:11.55 | wert613 | maybe if i restart |
| 00:11.59 | wert613 | ill try that |
| 00:12.01 | wert613 | brb |
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| 00:12.24 | iggy | hey |
| 00:12.31 | iggy | does anyone else get a ton of float point errors? |
| 00:12.35 | iggy | on kde apps specifically? |
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| 00:13.17 | wert613 | nope nothing =/ |
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| 00:13.58 | wert613 | this is strange and annoying |
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| 00:14.41 | wert613 | ahhh well |
| 00:15.30 | pcbshelppp | wassup iggy |
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| 00:17.35 | iggy | sup pcbshelppp |
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| 00:33.01 | cyrus | hi |
| 00:33.13 | cyrus | which is better gnome or kde? |
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| 00:33.20 | cyrus | because im new to linux |
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| 00:33.50 | wolsni | cyrus: use whatever's the default for your distro, if you don't like it try the other |
| 00:34.06 | wolsni | in here I think most people will say KDE is better for some reason |
| 00:34.07 | cyrus | thanks |
| 00:34.08 | StarScream | cyrus: doesn't really matter. You can easily change |
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| 00:34.36 | cyrus | is gnome as the default of fedora 7 nice? |
| 00:34.54 | wert613 | right now im using neither |
| 00:34.57 | cyrus | what will i do to configure my installation to play mp3s or dvds? |
| 00:35.05 | wert613 | using fvwm-crystal =D |
| 00:35.17 | cyrus | where did you download crystal? |
| 00:35.21 | cyrus | is it nice? |
| 00:35.21 | cyrus | hehe |
| 00:35.29 | wert613 | yeh its nice =D |
| 00:35.37 | wert613 | it was in the ubuntu repos |
| 00:35.42 | cyrus | ah |
| 00:35.44 | cyrus | ubunto |
| 00:35.45 | wert613 | i have a whole lot of wms |
| 00:35.47 | wolsni | cyrus: Fedora questions go in #fedora |
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| 00:36.05 | cyrus | thanks |
| 00:36.08 | cyrus | i joined fedora |
| 00:36.40 | wolsni | cyrus: if you're not authenticated, you joined ##fedora-join-instructions |
| 00:36.49 | cyrus | hehe |
| 00:37.24 | wolsni | #fedora is restricted to registered users only |
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| 00:39.23 | Grassbaecker | hello erverbody |
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| 00:40.36 | Grassbaecker | can anbody tell me a way to add a ah hotkey to Amarock |
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| 00:42.09 | wolsni | Grassbaecker: what do you mean? |
| 00:42.31 | wolsni | configuring keyboard shortcuts for amarok is the same as any KDE application |
| 00:43.26 | Grassbaecker | i wont to add a global shortkey to amarock |
| 00:43.53 | Grassbaecker | in the configur only i can change them |
| 00:43.57 | wolsni | so set it in Settings->Global Shortcuts |
| 00:44.11 | wolsni | oh, you mean something that's not in that dialog |
| 00:44.21 | wolsni | is there a dcop call that does what you want? |
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| 00:44.56 | Grassbaecker | yes is only a menue point to clear the playlist |
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| 00:45.27 | wolsni | you can add an input action in kcontrol then |
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| 00:45.52 | Servo888 | Anybody know of a good image cutting tool? For some webdesign stuff I need to cut an image apart; doing it in gimp is frustrating without the proper knife tool =- |
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| 00:46.22 | wolsni | KControl->Regional & Accessibility->Input Actions, Grassbaecker |
| 00:46.30 | wolsni | Servo888: gimp can't crop? |
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| 00:48.05 | Servo888 | wolsni: it's a bit more sophisticated than cropping. I need to precisely crop 6 images, and in each image take out 3 portions of it. |
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| 00:48.40 | Servo888 | I need multiple selection tools I guess. |
| 00:48.46 | wolsni | oh, I see |
| 00:49.00 | wolsni | is there any app that lets you do that? |
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| 00:49.26 | Servo888 | In windows photoshop / image ready do that really well. |
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| 00:49.49 | Servo888 | But I'm poor... :-) |
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| 00:50.25 | p_masho | Any ideas why gimp and OO crash kde-window-decorator upon launch, With Compiz-Fusion ?? http://pastebin.mozilla.org/122355 |
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| 00:54.27 | tupa | when I started KDE for the first time, an application asking me if I had a slow PC or quick PC, and asked me which config I wanted (KDE, unix, windows, CDE) |
| 00:54.33 | tupa | what is the name of that application? |
| 00:55.33 | wolsni | kpersonalizer |
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| 00:56.56 | tupa | thanks :) |
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| 01:01.31 | mech422 | hi all - anyone know how to dynamically 'include' one kommander script inside another ? I'd like to create a 'project setup' script, that would create boilerplate directory layout and files for different types of projects (python, 'C', etc.) I'd like to have a 'main' kommander script that 'includes' a script from the selected project type to prompt for additional information only required for that project type... |
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| 01:06.00 | AmyRose | mech422: Sorry, I don't have an answer... but I'd help you if I did. :( |
| 01:06.30 | mech422 | AmyRose: thanks anyway :-) |
| 01:07.06 | mech422 | I just found a forum posting on kde.org referring to kommander as an 'odd' and 'unmaintained' application, so maybe I'm barking up the wrong tree |
| 01:07.21 | AmyRose | I am not a programmer, so I wouldn't know |
| 01:07.27 | AmyRose | I only write bash scripts |
| 01:07.59 | wolsni | mech422: might be easier to just do a shell script using kdialog for the gui |
| 01:08.00 | AmyRose | But I just didn't want to leave anybody thinking that we're all dead here |
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| 01:11.24 | mech422 | wolsni: yeah - kommander just seemed cool - there is also KAppTemplate that is specially designed for this sort of task... I'm looking for docs on it now.. |
| 01:11.26 | level1 | I know this is a weird place to ask, but I couldn't think of anywhere else, since most people would get pissed at me just for asking |
| 01:11.29 | engineer | was |
| 01:11.35 | level1 | is there a irc channel for Visual Basic? |
| 01:12.16 | mech422 | level1: probably not on freenode - have you tried searching msdn to see if they list any ? |
| 01:12.54 | level1 | mech422: how do you log into msdn? irc.msdn.com or something? |
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| 01:13.31 | mech422 | level1: http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/default.aspx |
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| 01:13.44 | mech422 | err... http://msdn.microsoft.com |
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| 01:13.50 | mech422 | try poking around there |
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| 01:17.06 | level1 | does VB have any worth as a langauge? I'm not actually using it, I'm trying to help a friend... I tried it once a long time ago, actually Qt Designer reminded me passingly of VB |
| 01:17.45 | mech422 | level1: that depends on your point of view... though given the number of people making there living writing VB code, I'd suppose it has _some_ value :-P |
| 01:18.04 | mech422 | s/there/their/ |
| 01:18.11 | level1 | lol perl |
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| 01:19.28 | level1 | My friend asked me how to call C function in VB.... I have no idea |
| 01:20.12 | mech422 | level1: check the msdn site - thats what its for... I doubt you'll find too many VB scripters around here... |
| 01:20.30 | level1 | lol |
| 01:20.36 | mech422 | MS does do a pretty good job of providing sample code, tutorials, etc. |
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| 01:22.47 | xDamox | hmm this may seem stupid, but does anyone know why in KDevelop when I do something like People[0]. gives me a error saying: "file parsed, but not updating core-model because of errors", when I was hoping for the drop down list of data fields? |
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| 01:24.19 | mech422 | xDamox: no idea, but from what I've read KDevelop has a bunch of 'idiosyncracies'.... |
| 01:24.50 | xDamox | :( ok |
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| 01:25.15 | mech422 | xDamox: its too bad - I _really_ wanted to use it for Python development.... but I ended up with 'eric' instead |
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| 01:27.43 | workman161 | removing it doesn't work because it complains about all the other kde- and qt-specific directives being unknown |
| 01:27.57 | workman161 | what can I do to fix it? |
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| 02:15.21 | ApersonWhoIsnotU | Hello ^_^ How would i change the Icon for my Application menu? |
| 02:16.20 | om | does anyone here familiar with overclocking cpu? |
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| 02:29.38 | ApersonWhoIsnotU | How would i change the Icon for my Application menu? |
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| 02:43.04 | pcbshelppp | localhost# nspluginwrapper -i /usr/local/lib/npapi/linux-flashplugin/libflashpla yer.so |
| 02:43.04 | pcbshelppp | /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libc.so.7" not found, required by "nsplugin wrapper" |
| 02:43.09 | pcbshelppp | someone help me with this issue? |
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| 02:55.03 | amicrawler | i don't know how but it did |
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| 02:56.26 | ApersonWhoIsnotU | where are KDE system icons stored? |
| 02:56.53 | amicrawler | usr local |
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| 02:58.59 | ApersonWhoIsnotU | Nothing |
| 02:59.07 | ApersonWhoIsnotU | Hmm |
| 02:59.23 | StarScream | ApersonWhoIsnotU: which distro ? |
| 02:59.29 | ApersonWhoIsnotU | sabayon |
| 02:59.34 | ApersonWhoIsnotU | Im trying to change the App menu icon |
| 03:00.46 | StarScream | usr share icons maybe ? |
| 03:00.55 | ApersonWhoIsnotU | there are a bunch of Icon folders there |
| 03:00.59 | ApersonWhoIsnotU | but none marked KDE |
| 03:01.05 | ApersonWhoIsnotU | they seem to be theme icons |
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| 03:01.10 | StarScream | well it depends which icon theme you use |
| 03:01.16 | StarScream | dunno about sabayon |
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| 03:01.24 | ApersonWhoIsnotU | seems to be deafualt KDE |
| 03:01.25 | StarScream | kde uses crystal by default |
| 03:01.30 | ApersonWhoIsnotU | ok |
| 03:01.41 | StarScream | you can see that for you self in kcontrol |
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| 03:03.17 | amicrawler | darn profiles |
| 03:03.26 | neit | sabayon kde has evilred as default |
| 03:03.44 | neit | trying to find the icons on sabayon atm |
| 03:03.48 | ApersonWhoIsnotU | In KDE style menus? |
| 03:04.07 | neit | sorry, that was window decor |
| 03:04.08 | amicrawler | when is kde4 coming out? |
| 03:04.09 | root | #sabayon wont help me (YOU HAVE BEEN BANNED FOR ASKING FOR HELP) so can you help me with my opengl problem? |
| 03:04.19 | neit | i can try |
| 03:04.35 | root | ok, it broke when i setup wine |
| 03:04.51 | neit | which version of wine? |
| 03:05.04 | root | wine desktop |
| 03:05.14 | root | uhh... |
| 03:05.22 | root | how do i get version? |
| 03:05.35 | neit | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:06.01 | ApersonWhoIsnotU | Ok i found the icons =o |
| 03:06.08 | ApersonWhoIsnotU | How do i edit a SVGC |
| 03:06.13 | root | 0,9,32 |
| 03:07.00 | neit | that should be stable enough (i had some issues with 0.9.37). does it throw any warnings when you start it? |
| 03:07.09 | root | no |
| 03:07.19 | root | the problem is my opengl broke |
| 03:07.25 | root | or suddenly stopped existing |
| 03:07.40 | root | and it's confusing |
| 03:07.48 | neit | using the nvidia x server? |
| 03:07.54 | root | ???? |
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| 03:08.06 | root | sabayon 3.3 64bit |
| 03:08.16 | neit | er eep, what is your graphics card? |
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| 03:08.32 | chealer | root: this is a KDE support channel. your problem is offtopic. |
| 03:08.53 | root | but #sabayon banned me for asking for help! |
| 03:09.37 | root | i have nowhere to go! |
| 03:10.16 | root | ... |
| 03:10.18 | chealer | root: ask another Sabayon help resource, or a Sabayon consultant |
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| 03:10.50 | ApersonWhoIsnotU | What is a .svgc? and how can i make a personalized Icon for my Kmenu |
| 03:10.59 | root | well, i guess i'm TRAPPED with a non working sabayon and a corrupt help IRC |
| 03:11.10 | ApersonWhoIsnotU | go to ##linux |
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| 03:12.10 | AmyRose | root: I thought FreeNode didn't allow people to use that nick |
| 03:12.52 | Battlefrank | they dont |
| 03:12.59 | Battlefrank | i just got forced off it |
| 03:13.03 | AmyRose | ah |
| 03:13.20 | Battlefrank | anyway, linux wont help me at all |
| 03:13.29 | Battlefrank | ... |
| 03:13.34 | vbatts | ? |
| 03:13.42 | Battlefrank | noones listening |
| 03:13.49 | wolsni | ApersonWhoIsnotU: if you're not sure what type a file is, "file blah.ext" can usually sort it out |
| 03:13.50 | wolsni | as far as theming the kmenu goes, you can modify your icon theme |
| 03:13.50 | wolsni | or you can use one of the more configurable kmenu replacements such as tastymenu or kbfx |
| 03:13.55 | vbatts | how is linux supposed to help you |
| 03:14.03 | vbatts | shouldn't help yourself? |
| 03:14.05 | Battlefrank | my opengl broke |
| 03:14.10 | Battlefrank | how to fix? |
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| 03:14.40 | vbatts | there a ton of howto's on that |
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| 03:14.45 | AmyRose | Battlefrank: This channel isn't about fixing that... |
| 03:14.46 | Battlefrank | ... |
| 03:14.49 | Battlefrank | i know |
| 03:14.51 | Battlefrank | but |
| 03:15.01 | AmyRose | what distro/OS are you on, Battlefrank? |
| 03:15.02 | neit | if you are using sabayon, gentoo docs can help |
| 03:15.13 | Battlefrank | #sabayon banned me for no reason and ##linux won't listen |
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| 03:15.20 | wolsni | Battlefrank: restore the backup you made of xorg.conf before you starting messing with your system? |
| 03:15.33 | wolsni | or ask in your distro channel about what tools to use to recreate one |
| 03:15.36 | Battlefrank | how???????? |
| 03:15.57 | Battlefrank | my distro channel banned me for no reason |
| 03:16.11 | neit | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:16.27 | wolsni | opengl stuff is probably not appropriate for the ##linux guys either |
| 03:16.27 | wolsni | i think there's a #xorg |
| 03:16.35 | neit | or is there a channel i can make to try to help? i am new to irc |
| 03:17.09 | vbatts | why mess with xgl if you can't figure out how to fix what you broke? |
| 03:17.17 | chealer | neit: open a query with him |
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| 03:17.40 | Battlefrank | ok |
| 03:17.44 | Battlefrank | how to use that? |
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| 03:18.13 | ApersonWhoIsnotU | Why must this be so Difficult |
| 03:18.21 | Battlefrank | I DONT KNOW! |
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| 03:18.36 | neit | just join me on #xorg |
| 03:18.45 | ApersonWhoIsnotU | Is there a way i can make a scvc Icon of my own |
| 03:18.51 | ApersonWhoIsnotU | *sgvc |
| 03:18.54 | ApersonWhoIsnotU | *z |
| 03:19.04 | ApersonWhoIsnotU | good lord im screwing up the file type |
| 03:19.06 | AmyRose | Battlefrank: Did they ban you because you were going by the nickname "root"? |
| 03:19.07 | ApersonWhoIsnotU | svgz |
| 03:19.09 | ApersonWhoIsnotU | XD |
| 03:19.13 | wolsni | ApersonWhoIsnotU: most apps that can create svg can create svgz |
| 03:19.21 | vbatts | yeah |
| 03:19.26 | neit | is that compressed svg? |
| 03:19.29 | wolsni | svgz == svg compressed (Zipped) |
| 03:19.35 | vbatts | yes it is |
| 03:19.38 | wolsni | inkscape, for example |
| 03:19.39 | vbatts | if you save svg |
| 03:19.40 | ApersonWhoIsnotU | I see |
| 03:19.41 | AmyRose | actually, svgz==svg.gz |
| 03:19.48 | vbatts | just gzip it |
| 03:19.54 | vbatts | and name it svgz |
| 03:20.00 | AmyRose | I wrote a shell script to make it easy to pack and unpack svgz files |
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| 03:20.24 | wolsni | AmyRose: how is it useful? |
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| 03:20.27 | vbatts | cat file.svg | gzip > file.svgz |
| 03:20.37 | AmyRose | wolsni: svgzip file.svg :D |
| 03:20.52 | AmyRose | It makes it as convenient as gzipping anything else |
| 03:21.02 | AmyRose | Anyone want me to pastebin it? |
| 03:21.12 | ApersonWhoIsnotU | Im so lost.... |
| 03:21.19 | wolsni | AmyRose: i'm more interested in why you would want to do it |
| 03:21.28 | vbatts | ApersonWhoIsnotU: why so? |
| 03:21.33 | wolsni | ApersonWhoIsnotU: just install inkscape and go at it |
| 03:21.36 | ApersonWhoIsnotU | so This is basically a Compressed file type of a icon and i need a program to unzip it then edit it |
| 03:21.39 | AmyRose | wolsni: I am an Inkscape artist, so I deal with svgs a lot :D |
| 03:21.43 | wolsni | save as .svgz when you're done |
| 03:21.55 | ApersonWhoIsnotU | It wont open the file type |
| 03:21.58 | Simeon_H | I'm downloading KDE1 :D |
| 03:22.01 | vbatts | i wish inkscape could keep a well formed svg file |
| 03:22.03 | Simeon_H | I'm a crazy muthafugga |
| 03:22.05 | AmyRose | Simeon_H: KDE1?! |
| 03:22.10 | AmyRose | Why? |
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| 03:22.38 | AmyRose | wolsni: My DeviantArt gallery is full of screenshots and stuff I drew in Inkscape |
| 03:22.59 | ApersonWhoIsnotU | AmyRose So how do i turn a svgz into a svg |
| 03:23.10 | Simeon_H | because I'm insane |
| 03:23.16 | vbatts | AmyRose: yeah, but the xml innards of svg files created with inkscape, aren't standard, |
| 03:23.25 | Simeon_H | nah I'm just trying to catch up on some GUI histories |
| 03:23.30 | vbatts | they're "inkscape"-ized |
| 03:23.31 | AmyRose | ApersonWhoIsnotU: type "zcat file.svgz > file.svg" |
| 03:23.51 | wolsni | my inkscape has "Inkscape SVG" and "normal SVG" as output formats |
| 03:23.56 | AmyRose | vbatts: I post my stuff on DA in PNG format because they don't accept svg files |
| 03:24.16 | vbatts | k |
| 03:24.20 | ApersonWhoIsnotU | I just wanna make my own Menu icon :'( |
| 03:24.27 | vbatts | yeah, karbon does the same |
| 03:24.47 | Simeon_H | it doesn't, just GTK |
| 03:24.53 | Simeon_H | and there's nothing wrong with GTK |
| 03:24.55 | Simeon_H | -_- |
| 03:25.00 | vbatts | their is an app called sketsa that keeps a well formed xml svg file, but they want 50$ |
| 03:25.00 | Simeon_H | it's just not as good as Qt |
| 03:25.03 | vbatts | $50 |
| 03:25.05 | AmyRose | lol |
| 03:25.39 | AmyRose | vbatts: I won't pay a cent for any art software if I can get something better or similar for free :P |
| 03:26.04 | vbatts | true that |
| 03:26.15 | AmyRose | besides, isn't Sketsa a Java program? |
| 03:26.22 | AmyRose | I can't stand Java applications |
| 03:26.28 | vbatts | thats why i stick to vim |
| 03:26.31 | AmyRose | hahaha |
| 03:26.46 | AmyRose | Instead of Limewire, I'd rather go with gtk-gnutella for example |
| 03:26.58 | AmyRose | and KTorrent FTW :D |
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| 03:27.13 | Simeon_H | I like azureas's swarm pie chart thing |
| 03:27.18 | AmyRose | I know a number of GNOME users who wish KTorrent was a GNOME app |
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| 03:27.35 | vbatts | i don't do gnutella stuff any more |
| 03:27.41 | Battlefrank | what channel was i redirected to? |
| 03:27.46 | Battlefrank | i fo'got |
| 03:27.47 | vbatts | i do an occassional torrent |
| 03:27.50 | fannagoganna | what happened to the newest version of ktorrent (v2.2)? I can't search for torrents through ktorrent anymore :( |
| 03:27.54 | vbatts | and i way prefer ktorrent |
| 03:28.00 | AmyRose | vbatts: I don't really do that much either... I mostly torrent free OSes these days |
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| 03:28.03 | wolsni | the swarm view in azureus is completely useless |
| 03:28.14 | Simeon_H | meh I dunno |
| 03:28.19 | Simeon_H | it helps to visualise stuff |
| 03:28.29 | AmyRose | vbatts: It's easier to download most mainstream Linux distros via bittorrent than via HTTP/FTP :P |
| 03:28.43 | AmyRose | I love the upnp support in ktorrent |
| 03:28.44 | wireddd | grepper: yeah |
| 03:28.54 | Simeon_H | oh yes I always use torrents legally >_> |
| 03:28.58 | AmyRose | lol |
| 03:29.14 | vbatts | only a couple times have an iso come faster through torrent than otherwise |
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| 03:29.21 | grepper | wireddd: eh ? |
| 03:29.24 | AmyRose | I'm the keeper of the router password here, but I still get lazy and enable KTorrent's upnp :P |
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| 03:29.39 | ApersonWhoIsnotU | AmyRose you make SVGs? |
| 03:29.49 | vbatts | i download disc[1,2,3] of slackware 12 on the day it came out in two hours from torrent |
| 03:30.08 | wireddd | the quick browser applet does not seem to notice that the contents of the directory it points to has changed for quite a while. If there any way I can refresh it manually? |
| 03:30.20 | wireddd | s/if/is/ |
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| 03:30.26 | wolsni | wireddd: there's always "dcop kicker kicker restart" |
| 03:30.45 | vbatts | [F5] |
| 03:32.14 | Battlefrank | where was i redirected to? |
| 03:32.17 | Battlefrank | i forgot |
| 03:32.25 | vbatts | #xorg |
| 03:32.37 | vbatts | or #Xorg |
| 03:33.00 | wireddd | wolsni: there isn't a way to just restart that applet? |
| 03:33.13 | wolsni | wireddd: you can remove it and re-add it |
| 03:33.31 | wireddd | I am really looking for something that I can put in a script |
| 03:33.38 | vbatts | oh |
| 03:33.41 | Battlefrank | thanks |
| 03:33.53 | stoned | zorg |
| 03:33.57 | wolsni | wireddd: you can put that dcop call in a script |
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| 03:34.38 | wireddd | yeah, but that is going to get really annoying when my bar disappears ever 30 minutes |
| 03:34.47 | AmyRose | ApersonWhoIsnotU: Yeah, I do |
| 03:34.49 | wireddd | *every |
| 03:35.11 | AmyRose | ApersonWhoIsnotU: http://gnulinuxman.deviantart.com/gallery <-- My work :D |
| 03:36.18 | vbatts | dcop kicker kicker refresh seems to work |
| 03:36.49 | wolsni | troy: how many more of those gears do you have? |
| 03:36.58 | wireddd | vbatts: I get "no such function" |
| 03:37.22 | vbatts | oh i tried dcopfind |
| 03:37.54 | vbatts | my bad, `dcopfind kicker kicker refresh` doesn't return anything |
| 03:38.19 | vbatts | `dcopfind kicker kicker restart` ... restarts it |
| 03:38.37 | troy | wolsni: well, I have a whole bunch of them, but normally they are covered in a mound of snow :P |
| 03:38.57 | wolsni | don't they get all rusty? |
| 03:40.25 | troy | yeah, bloody "Oxygen" :P |
| 03:40.41 | troy | I really ought to be checking if people have had tetanus shots before throwing them at peolpe |
| 03:40.51 | grepper | wireddd: I'd say the applet is not to useful then - maybe file a bug |
| 03:41.25 | wireddd | it really should update every time you use it |
| 03:42.30 | wireddd | the strange thing it that sometimes it does |
| 03:42.42 | neit | anyone run kde on os x? |
| 03:42.44 | wireddd | err the strange thing is that sometimes it does |
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| 03:47.55 | kane | hey, so in my KDE apps they seemed to have stopped showing actual files |
| 03:47.59 | kane | just the folder |
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| 03:48.24 | wolsni | kane: maybe you put an unmatched glob in the filter? |
| 03:48.24 | vbatts | kane: what does it show ? |
| 03:48.30 | kane | nothing |
| 03:48.55 | kane | just folders |
| 03:49.51 | klobster | my kde icons seem to be missing in the system-control, but exist if I search them out in file properties? how can i fix this? |
| 03:50.34 | wolsni | klobster: "kbuildsycoca" might help |
| 03:51.02 | klobster | wolsni: trying... |
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| 03:53.20 | vbatts | kane: from the menu at the top "Tools" -> "View Filter" and see if "Folders only" is selected, if so click on it |
| 03:54.30 | kane | hrrrrrrrrmmmmmmmmm |
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| 03:55.44 | pcbshelppp | i got a file with a list of files, how do i make it delete those files. |
| 03:56.02 | vbatts | rm `cat <file>` |
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| 03:57.18 | wolsni | pcbshelppp: that won't work if any of the files have names containing special characters such as spaces though |
| 03:57.35 | vbatts | true |
| 03:58.09 | Anonycat | Is there any quick way to search if a given shortcut combination is in use/possibly for multiple applications? |
| 03:59.50 | klobster | wolsni: got this error: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29315/ |
| 04:00.25 | wolsni | klobster: don't worry about it, kbuildsycoca is way whinier than it needs to be |
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| 04:02.18 | klobster | wolsni: oh. well, in that case it did not work |
| 04:03.00 | wolsni | vbatts, pcbshelppp: "xargs -d\\n rm < filename" is the special character-friendly version |
| 04:03.13 | wolsni | klobster: not sure what else to tell you |
| 04:03.18 | wolsni | did you restart the offending app? |
| 04:04.19 | klobster | KDE? |
| 04:04.20 | klobster | yes |
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| 04:07.08 | vbatts | wolsni: nice |
| 04:07.41 | vbatts | wolsni: i would just started `sed -r `-ing in there |
| 04:08.34 | wolsni | vbatts: actually, now that I think of it, it's really "xargs -d\\n rm -- < filename" in case any of the filenames start with a dash |
| 04:10.20 | om | hello |
| 04:10.35 | om | anyone familiar here with overclocking or anyone know a room for overclocking? |
| 04:11.34 | Simeon_H | Overclocking is the process of speeding up the CPU clock beyond the rated frequency |
| 04:11.38 | klobster | #oc ? |
| 04:17.44 | vbatts | gnite all |
| 04:18.09 | AmyRose | Why doesn't Kopete's "Now Listening" plug-in work when I'm playing a tracker module in Amarok? |
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| 04:18.43 | AmyRose | Well, it works in Konversation |
| 04:19.50 | Anonycat | Does anyone remember offhand if Super+V is used in KDE for anything other than Amarok' |
| 04:19.56 | Anonycat | s global Stop shortcut? |
| 04:20.07 | AmyRose | I don't think so |
| 04:20.16 | Anonycat | all the global shortcuts are working except Super+V, and I don't see why |
| 04:26.22 | wireddd | is there something I can put in a .something file to change the icon for a specific file |
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| 04:27.55 | AmyRose | wireddd: Not that I know of--I've only been able to do it for directories |
| 04:28.32 | wolsni | wireddd: a specific file, or a specific filetype? |
| 04:28.42 | wireddd | a specific file |
| 04:29.58 | wolsni | then no, you can't do that |
| 04:30.17 | wolsni | you can make a shortcut to it with whatever icon you want, I think |
| 04:30.29 | wireddd | yeah I guess I will just do that |
| 04:30.34 | wolsni | why would you want to set the icon for just one file anyway? |
| 04:30.38 | wolsni | seems odd to me |
| 04:30.51 | wireddd | I have my reasons |
| 04:31.07 | wolsni | well, that makes so much more sense now |
| 04:31.23 | wireddd | I'll take a screen cap when I get it working |
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| 04:33.23 | klobster | special text files, important todo list, etc, I had a similar thought once.a |
| 04:33.54 | xsacha | ow, just thought i'd mention if this isn't known already: konqueror exits silently on http://sms.ac |
| 04:36.13 | wolsni | xsacha: not for me |
| 04:36.27 | wolsni | although I hope this isn't the correct rendering :P |
| 04:36.43 | wolsni | xsacha: bugs.kde.org would be the place to report bugs though |
| 04:36.52 | xsacha | wolsni: what version? using 3.5.7 |
| 04:37.08 | wolsni | 3.5.7 here as well |
| 04:37.10 | xsacha | yeah i've reported a few bugs on there |
| 04:37.20 | xsacha | hmm |
| 04:37.42 | xsacha | mine says "building homepage.." then screen goes black and then konqueror (and all tabs i had open) are gone |
| 04:38.00 | xsacha | with automatic login on |
| 04:38.22 | wolsni | well I don't have a login, maybe that makes the difference |
| 04:38.38 | xsacha | ah ok |
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| 04:42.18 | om | does anyone know whats more important for videogames?? cpu speed or ram speed? |
| 04:45.19 | xsacha | well they depend on eachother |
| 04:45.31 | xsacha | if you have fast of one and slow of the other, it wouldnt be as good as medium of both |
| 04:45.51 | xsacha | it just depends what your bottleneck is, remove that |
| 04:46.33 | xsacha | i find it hard to use up my cpu, so for me a better cpu wouldnt help |
| 04:47.04 | wireddd | wolsni: this is what I was making http://tinyurl.com/2ug7md |
| 04:47.07 | xsacha | just like someone with a geforce 8800 cant make use of it with a slow cpu -- the card will just be stuck there waiting for cpu |
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| 04:47.33 | wireddd | the refresh button was what I was trying to figure out how to do |
| 04:48.08 | om | i se xsacha |
| 04:48.10 | om | see |
| 04:48.13 | om | i ask it because |
| 04:48.14 | xsacha | wireddd: i think it'd be good if the menu opened to the first item in the menu and not the directory. |
| 04:48.34 | xsacha | wireddd: like Gothhard Tunnel.mpg instead |
| 04:48.38 | om | i overclocked my cpu.. i install a watercooling but it seems was unestable i dont know why |
| 04:48.51 | om | but what i did is to low hte frecuency of my memory ram |
| 04:48.52 | xsacha | om: well when you're playing a game do you reach 100% cpu? |
| 04:48.56 | om | and now i dont have any problem |
| 04:48.59 | wireddd | xsacha: what do you mean? |
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| 04:49.27 | xsacha | wireddd: well see how the menu starts with the directory -- it'd be good if that was moved up a bit so that the first thing across from the mouse is instead the first file in the list |
| 04:49.33 | om | my memory ram goes 400 mhz but now is at 230 mhz |
| 04:49.38 | om | becasue i overclcok my cpu a lot |
| 04:49.49 | wireddd | xsacha: yeah that would be great but I don't know how to do that |
| 04:49.51 | om | if i want my ram to go faster i need to low the frecuency of my cpu |
| 04:50.01 | xsacha | om: tried benchmarking it? |
| 04:50.02 | klobster | how do i restart the window manager? how can i change which one I am using? |
| 04:50.05 | om | and i dont want to do that because it cost my hell lot of time to install the watercooling |
| 04:50.08 | wireddd | I am just using the quick browser to display a directory |
| 04:50.14 | xsacha | klobster: kwin --replace to get kwin back |
| 04:50.14 | om | and i want to take advantage of it |
| 04:50.26 | om | no xsacha how can i do that |
| 04:50.32 | wolsni | klobster: most WM's support the "--replace" switch |
| 04:50.48 | xsacha | exception being xfwm4 |
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| 04:51.12 | xsacha | om: try a game that you want to play and check FPS before and after? |
| 04:51.54 | om | but not everygame have FPS check |
| 04:51.57 | om | which ones have? |
| 04:51.57 | xsacha | some games are more cpu intensive (like half-life 2 and source mods) |
| 04:52.04 | xsacha | which one doesnt? |
| 04:52.26 | xsacha | there's usually some key combo or console command in a game to show frames or other stats |
| 04:52.34 | om | ok |
| 04:52.38 | om | the most the better then? |
| 04:52.46 | om | first i try with my cpu overclcoked and ram low |
| 04:52.51 | om | then my ram normal and less overclocked |
| 04:52.53 | om | and see what happen |
| 04:52.55 | klobster | no dice. does kwin handle the icons for the system bar and kmenu, and menu bars within the program? |
| 04:52.56 | xsacha | yeah but you can also tell just by playing whether the performance is better or not |
| 04:53.07 | om | ok |
| 04:53.23 | xsacha | klobster: window manager will handle moving windows, taking focus for windows, drawing borders on windows and so on |
| 04:53.35 | wireddd | om can't you fiddle with the multiplier to get the ram back to 400 |
| 04:53.43 | xsacha | klobster: doesnt do menus or icons |
| 04:53.56 | klobster | xsacha: oh, then thats not what I need |
| 04:54.06 | klobster | xsacha: do you know what does? |
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| 04:54.19 | xsacha | the app itself should do that |
| 04:54.29 | wolsni | klobster: kicker provides the panel if that's what you're asking |
| 04:54.48 | xsacha | klobster: taskbar? down the bottom (or wherever) |
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| 04:55.28 | om | yeah i can get the ram back to 400 wiredd |
| 04:55.33 | om | but it will freeze my computer |
| 04:55.41 | om | i need to low down the cpu frecuency |
| 04:55.43 | om | is weird i dont know why |
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| 04:55.58 | wireddd | ok what is your cpu running at? |
| 04:56.29 | wireddd | actually lets take this to an overclocking channel |
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| 04:57.10 | klobster | xsacha: yeah taskbar, system tray all of the above (or wherever -_^) |
| 04:57.10 | wireddd | om join #overclocking |
| 04:57.19 | xsacha | klobster: oh, run: kicker |
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| 04:57.33 | klobster | how do I restart it? |
| 04:57.47 | wolsni | klobster: dcop kicker kicker restart |
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| 04:58.49 | Fjolnir | good morning. since all gtk2 apps stopped working yesterday, i chose konqueror as my browser. is it possible to have a button somewhere to enable cookies/js on the viewed domain? |
| 04:59.36 | xsacha | Fjolnir: instead of Tools->HTML Settings->Cookies ? |
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| 05:00.11 | klobster | wolsni: is that the same command for kwin? |
| 05:00.30 | xsacha | Fjolnir: you can choose specific domains in konqueror settings->cookies |
| 05:00.31 | wolsni | klobster: no. for kwin it's "kwin --replace" |
| 05:01.05 | xsacha | Fjolnir: maybe i dont understand correctly but there's also an option "Only accept cookies from originating ddomain" |
| 05:01.35 | klobster | wolsni: yeah, but how would I run that so it's in my current shell? |
| 05:01.53 | wolsni | klobster: do what now? |
| 05:02.19 | Fjolnir | xsacha: i know how to set it up, but i would like to have a button, which would activate js for the viewed site. it sucks to go to settings-menu and add a domain by hand |
| 05:02.53 | xsacha | Fjolnir: does Tools->HTML Settings->Cookies (a menu click) do this? or only temporarily add it? |
| 05:03.04 | Fjolnir | js and cookies are disabled by default, but i would like to enable them, if i need them fast. |
| 05:03.35 | xsacha | that's pretty fast method of enabling them |
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| 05:03.54 | xsacha | it's just in menu, doesnt open anything up |
| 05:04.05 | xsacha | a checkbox |
| 05:04.07 | Fjolnir | i suppose it would. that setting enables cookies global or just for the viewed site? |
| 05:04.16 | xsacha | not sure, i dont use it |
| 05:04.21 | wolsni | xsacha, Fjolnir: add the Extra toolbar in konqueror |
| 05:05.30 | Fjolnir | wolsni: i suppose, that is, what i wanted. |
| 05:05.32 | xsacha | wolsni: seems to just be the Tools menu |
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| 05:06.01 | wolsni | yes, but it's a TOOLBAR!!! |
| 05:06.08 | Fjolnir | i could add the buttons to the extra toolbar! |
| 05:06.13 | Fjolnir | thanks. |
| 05:06.47 | xsacha | :P |
| 05:07.45 | klobster | can I configure the system menu applet? |
| 05:08.25 | Fjolnir | and now the second problem. i asked in #suse yesterday, but nobody had an idea. how do i get those gtk2 apps to work again? i installed a new kde-release and erased ~/.beagle, rebooted and non of those gtk2 apps work. i only get segmentation faults. |
| 05:09.15 | xsacha | dont have any gtk apps on my kde install anyway :P wouldnt kno if they didnt work |
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| 05:09.45 | Fjolnir | not that i need them, but ogmrip and gimp would be nice |
| 05:10.24 | wolsni | Fjolnir: maybe delete whatever GTK config files you have and try again |
| 05:10.43 | wolsni | or create a new user and see if GTK works for that account |
| 05:10.48 | Fjolnir | where are them? .gtk2 |
| 05:10.51 | Fjolnir | ? |
| 05:10.59 | StarScream | Fjolnir: maybe the #gtk or #gnome guys might be able to help ? |
| 05:11.02 | Shirakawasuna | gtk in #kde? What's the world coming to? |
| 05:11.27 | xsacha | Shirakawasuna: :P coming soon: win32 in #kde |
| 05:11.33 | Fjolnir | calm down. i do like kde apps better, but gimp is nice. |
| 05:11.44 | wolsni | Fjolnir: it is offtopic though |
| 05:12.15 | Fjolnir | ok |
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| 05:13.30 | StarScream | Shirakawasuna: again ? i thought we did that last week =) |
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| 05:13.58 | klobster | one more thing: how do I turn off the desktop autosave? I want to start my desk the same way every time I log in. |
| 05:14.30 | Shirakawasuna | klobster: it's in some 'sessions' config, lemme see |
| 05:14.31 | wolsni | klobster: the session management settings are in kcontrol |
| 05:14.41 | wolsni | under KDE Components |
| 05:14.59 | klobster | oh yeah, and one other thing: |
| 05:15.16 | klobster | if I set system settings\login manager shutdown to root only, is there a workaround for using sudo to shutdown? |
| 05:15.31 | Shirakawasuna | note: the 'manual configuration' bit is the one you want for the session and you can save your preferred session when logging out, iirc |
| 05:15.46 | klobster | you have been VERY helpful, thank you so much for your time |
| 05:17.21 | Shirakawasuna | ah, on a related note, what are the security risks to having an account automatically log you in? Is it just the risk of someone physically picking up my laptop and playing around with it? |
| 05:17.35 | wolsni | Shirakawasuna: basically |
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| 05:18.31 | Shirakawasuna | meh, that's not a huge risk for me |
| 05:18.32 | klobster | man kcontrol is nice. forget this, I'm switching to debian, kubuntu is for the birds. |
| 05:18.43 | klobster | too much wierdness |
| 05:18.48 | StarScream | uhuh |
| 05:18.57 | Shirakawasuna | you can't use a 'normal' kcontrol in kubuntu? |
| 05:19.03 | Shirakawasuna | I could've sworn you could choose, maybe not. |
| 05:19.24 | StarScream | you can run kcontrol manually |
| 05:19.28 | klobster | you can, but it's one more thing they had to screw with that was FINE before it got touched. |
| 05:19.46 | Shirakawasuna | klobster: I hear KDE4 is going to have a more kubuntu-like kcontrol :) |
| 05:19.56 | klobster | did you know in ubuntu /bin/sh is dash? |
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| 05:20.53 | klobster | Shirakawasuna: as long as I still have an option for FULL control, I don't care. some of the stuff in Kcontrol I have never seen. |
| 05:21.11 | Shirakawasuna | lame |
| 05:21.16 | Shirakawasuna | I thought they just moved things around |
| 05:21.26 | klobster | no equivalent options == fail |
| 05:21.48 | Shirakawasuna | yes |
| 05:22.07 | Shirakawasuna | I've been thinking of trying kubuntu after being impressed by ubuntu (installed it for my little sister) |
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| 05:22.21 | klobster | sorry, this just got offtopic really fast. sorry ops! |
| 05:22.32 | Shirakawasuna | uh... we can salvage it... uh... |
| 05:22.37 | Shirakawasuna | yay for kde4 |
| 05:22.41 | wolsni | but there is stuff in the Kubuntu control center that's not in KControl as well, right? |
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| 05:23.19 | klobster | bluetooth? |
| 05:24.52 | klobster | wolsni: BTW: gonme overwrote some of my kde installed icons with it's gnome versions, thus issues. |
| 05:25.04 | wolsni | weird |
| 05:25.35 | wolsni | i'd have expected ubuntu to have packaged them so that there wasn't a problem |
| 05:25.37 | Neo | how would u emerge kde screen savers? |
| 05:25.54 | klobster | likewise. |
| 05:26.09 | chealer | Neo: ask your distributor |
| 05:26.38 | Neo | ok thank you |
| 05:27.44 | xsacha | yeah klobster, kcontrol is dead now |
| 05:28.11 | xsacha | klobster: afaik it has been replaced by the kubuntu version now (few days ago?) |
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| 05:28.19 | klobster | no! but we just met! I really thought we had a connection!! |
| 05:28.31 | xsacha | lol |
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| 05:28.35 | xsacha | kcontrol is ugly |
| 05:28.39 | xsacha | and messy.. |
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| 05:29.00 | klobster | yeah, I already have gnome for those options -_^ |
| 05:29.22 | xsacha | kcontrol is reminiscent of kde's messy era |
| 05:29.27 | klobster | alright thanks again, goodnight! |
| 05:29.56 | klobster | xsacha: yeah I remember slackware 7 |
| 05:31.22 | anidnmeno | good ol' slack 7 |
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| 05:37.40 | Fjolnir | found the problem. it was te gtk-qt-engine |
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| 05:47.28 | ronino | hello |
| 05:47.46 | ronino | can konqueror as file browser show thumbnails/previews of SVG files? What do I have to install? |
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| 05:51.17 | xsacha | ronino: it does here, but an odd thing: |
| 05:51.40 | xsacha | if i click on a libk to an svg and it opens konqueror, it shows SVG blahblah and i have to refresh the page for image to appear |
| 05:51.43 | xsacha | link |
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| 05:52.03 | ronino | xsacha: but you can't tell what to install for that? |
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| 05:59.06 | Anonycat | Is there any quick way to search if a given shortcut combination is in use/possibly for multiple applications? |
| 05:59.48 | Shirakawasuna | ronino: it does for me, but it doesn't look great |
| 06:00.11 | Shirakawasuna | it'll show it say 20x too large and, therefore, show me 1/20 of the image :) |
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| 06:21.17 | mattwj2005 | man I can't wait until KDE 4.0 comes out :D |
| 06:21.35 | mattwj2005 | looks pretty sweet |
| 06:24.03 | StarScream | mattwj2005: yeh 4.0 will prolly be a bit buggy |
| 06:24.08 | StarScream | 4.1 will be awesome |
| 06:24.26 | Shirakawasuna | hey, does anyone by chance know what the 'mimetypes/pipe' icon is used for? It's a water spigot. |
| 06:24.53 | qupada | presumably for named pipes |
| 06:25.02 | qupada | like the ones you make with 'mkfifo' |
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| 06:26.26 | bgrolleman | Shirakawasuna: Did you ever use the | command in the shell? |
| 06:26.42 | qupada | Shirakawasuna: they do pretty much what the name suggests. you stick data in the file with one app and read it out with another. once it's read it disappears |
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| 06:27.43 | bgrolleman | And so it became that the whole human race learned everything from google and wikipedia |
| 06:27.46 | Shirakawasuna | kinda like the opposite of a stack |
| 06:27.59 | qupada | as bgrolleman is pointing out, more or less as a substitute for the other kind of pipe for apps that don't support reading from stdin or writing to stdout |
| 06:28.14 | Shirakawasuna | got it |
| 06:28.33 | mattwj2005 | buggy or not a lot of new technology coming out :D |
| 06:28.34 | bgrolleman | it's also very usefull if both processes run in a diffrent terminal |
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| 06:29.37 | bgrolleman | new stuff is good :) |
| 06:30.01 | bgrolleman | Though I don't know if my less techie Familie agrees |
| 06:30.29 | qupada | i'm not sure i always agree |
| 06:30.40 | qupada | one of my co-workers was showing me office 2007 today |
| 06:30.47 | qupada | yuck yuck yuck |
| 06:30.56 | bgrolleman | Ahh, the infamous ribbon |
| 06:31.00 | Shirakawasuna | hehe |
| 06:31.10 | Shirakawasuna | I'm trying to find a good 'pipe' metaphor in the Buuf icon set. |
| 06:31.14 | Shirakawasuna | not going so well ;) |
| 06:31.24 | Shirakawasuna | qupada: how bad? |
| 06:31.57 | qupada | Shirakawasuna: i don't know if you know a good reason for toolbars and stuff to be edited in a text editor, i sure as hell can't think of one |
| 06:32.05 | qupada | s/edited/animated |
| 06:32.11 | qupada | long day, not thinking straight |
| 06:32.17 | Shirakawasuna | how are they animated? |
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| 06:32.41 | Shirakawasuna | like: "I see you want to center the text! Let me do a dance for you!" |
| 06:32.42 | Shirakawasuna | ? |
| 06:32.58 | qupada | you're not far off |
| 06:33.00 | qupada | actually |
| 06:33.07 | bgrolleman | Animations is more important that you might think |
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| 06:33.23 | bgrolleman | But there is also "to much of a good thing" |
| 06:33.35 | Shirakawasuna | I'm not sure it's what an office app is most needing :) |
| 06:33.57 | Shirakawasuna | I think people need to expand on interfacing like quicksilver for lots of apps |
| 06:34.29 | bgrolleman | What would office 2007 need, more features? :) |
| 06:34.33 | Shirakawasuna | of course it's probably a terrible idea for a word processor, hmm... |
| 06:34.48 | Shirakawasuna | I wonder if I could pass off three feathers as a pipe metaphor... yeah... |
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| 06:36.00 | Shirakawasuna | I guess an easter island head will have to do |
| 06:36.30 | qupada | wtf? your icon set has one of those? |
| 06:36.45 | Shirakawasuna | I didn't make it, but oh yes it does. |
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| 06:37.04 | Shirakawasuna | or at least something that looks a lot like one ;) |
| 06:38.10 | qupada | well i'm drawing blanks trying to think of something else that looks like a Moai, so I think that's probably pretty conclusive |
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| 06:40.29 | Shirakawasuna | Buuf is fairly awesome |
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| 06:44.02 | kaie_ | kde 3.5.7. I do not have a time/date in the lower right corner. what is the name of the program that displays it? |
| 06:44.43 | qupada | right click the panel, add applet to panel, choose 'clock' |
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| 06:47.44 | Shirakawasuna | I never expected to see that question O_O |
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| 06:52.15 | Shirakawasuna | is there still JuK in kde4? |
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| 06:56.14 | Shirakawasuna | well, I suppose I *could* check myself |
| 06:56.19 | Shirakawasuna | what kind of service is this? :P |
| 06:56.37 | Shirakawasuna | answer: yes |
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| 06:57.22 | kaie_ | qupada, thanks |
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| 07:18.40 | ner0x | What package can I use to cut mp3s and paste others together? To make mixes for dancing and whatnot? |
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| 07:19.59 | Anonycat | that'd basically be Audacity |
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| 07:57.00 | om | lol i just read this: |
| 07:57.02 | om | Mostly there is two situations that you must reboot your Linux: |
| 07:57.02 | om | 1-You have just upgraded the kernel. |
| 07:57.02 | om | 2-You just miss seeing the Energy Star |
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| 08:00.40 | StarScream | om: yeh the energy star thing is cool. |
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| 08:23.47 | robbins876 | In gnome, there's like a keyboard mapper thing that allows you to set buttons on the keyboard to do certain functions, but in KDE it's lacking |
| 08:23.54 | robbins876 | is there anyway to do the same thing in KDE? |
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| 08:28.02 | robbins876 | anyone? |
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| 08:32.08 | zimon | robbins876: what exactly do you mean? shortcuts or special keys? |
| 08:34.12 | robbins876 | zimon: like my volume knob |
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| 08:42.26 | thor | when KDE4 coming I want it looks nice :D |
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| 08:45.16 | peter_pan | howdy |
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| 08:48.09 | peter_pan | hello everybody...i hope there are some kde developers here, i am experiencing a kded misbehaviour that is not covered by a bug report yet...i'd like to ask you for some comments on that |
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| 08:50.24 | peter_pan | i upgraded to 3.5.7, release 47.1 |
| 08:50.35 | peter_pan | i am using opensuse 10.2 |
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| 08:51.23 | metbsd | when is 4 out |
| 08:51.28 | metbsd | will it be like os x? |
| 08:51.32 | peter_pan | after logging in as soon as i see my desktop cpu usage by kded goes up to 100% and doesn't drop anymore |
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| 08:51.39 | Kebianizao | Hello |
| 08:51.59 | Kebianizao | anyone has experience high memory usage on kdevelop? |
| 08:54.18 | zimon | Kebianizao: what's your understanding of "high" ? |
| 08:54.52 | zimon | kdevelop 3.4.0 is using 40m here |
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| 08:56.52 | Shirakawasuna | metbsd: it will have some similar features, but it won't be exactly like os x, of course... |
| 08:57.11 | Shirakawasuna | metbsd: for instance it will have a native exposé feature and widgets kinda like dashboard. |
| 08:57.37 | Shirakawasuna | peter_pan: can you get any log output for it? |
| 08:57.51 | Shirakawasuna | (note: I'm not a dev, don't do too much work for my sake) |
| 08:58.03 | peter_pan | Shirakawasuna, unfortunately not |
| 08:58.12 | Shirakawasuna | hmm, that's no fun |
| 08:58.13 | metbsd | is kde4 available now? |
| 08:58.20 | metbsd | is there screenshot for kde4? |
| 08:58.22 | peter_pan | no kernel messages, so i guess it's not system related |
| 08:58.32 | Shirakawasuna | you'd think you could get a daemon to log |
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| 08:59.54 | peter_pan | i could give it a shot with strace |
| 08:59.57 | Shirakawasuna | there's no manpage, of course :) |
| 09:00.16 | peter_pan | ah, wait |
| 09:00.16 | Shirakawasuna | metbsd: there's a second alpha, but the eye candy is not fully in place *at all* |
| 09:00.29 | Shirakawasuna | metbsd: there's alpha/beta icons and that's it for the interface (besides compositing stuff) |
| 09:00.38 | peter_pan | the kded problem appears only after startup, killing kded and manually restarting it works fine |
| 09:00.46 | Shirakawasuna | the rest will come later - 4.0 is set to be released in October |
| 09:01.00 | metbsd | what about screenshot? |
| 09:01.13 | Kebianizao | zimon: 457MB now and rising |
| 09:01.14 | Shirakawasuna | peter_pan: interesting, maybe it's run with some special options? |
| 09:01.15 | peter_pan | metbsd, do a google search, there are tons of screenshots out there |
| 09:01.18 | Shirakawasuna | metbsd: google/wikipedia |
| 09:01.25 | Kebianizao | yesterday it reached +800MB |
| 09:01.30 | Shirakawasuna | metbsd: it'll look like kde3 with some new icons (called the Oxygen project) |
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| 09:01.44 | metbsd | ok |
| 09:01.59 | Shirakawasuna | Kebianizao: wow |
| 09:02.02 | metbsd | i hope some problems in kde3 will be fix too, such as the juk unable to paly problem |
| 09:02.16 | zimon | Kebianizao: which version? |
| 09:02.24 | Shirakawasuna | amarok ftw |
| 09:02.25 | Kebianizao | Shirakawasuna: the problem is that it doesn't go down |
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| 09:02.35 | Kebianizao | 3.4.1 I think latest |
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| 09:02.49 | metbsd | and for me, artd gives me problem too and my kde3 have no sound daemon on |
| 09:03.12 | Kebianizao | 550MB now (virtual) 445MB resident |
| 09:03.15 | Shirakawasuna | Kebianizao: which part of kdevelop is it? |
| 09:03.29 | Kebianizao | part? |
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| 09:03.40 | Kebianizao | I'm looking at the kdepim3 code |
| 09:03.45 | Shirakawasuna | n/m, one sec :) |
| 09:03.53 | metbsd | what does kdepim do |
| 09:04.19 | Kebianizao | is the kde component for mailing, personal information manager I think |
| 09:04.54 | Kebianizao | also akregator, knotes, kontact |
| 09:05.44 | Kebianizao | yesterday I had to kill it twice and start again to avoid memory starvation |
| 09:06.08 | Shirakawasuna | Kebianizao: have you tried switching versions? |
| 09:06.14 | Kebianizao | Shirakawasuna: this? you mean the log? |
| 09:06.25 | Kebianizao | Shirakawasuna: you mean a previous kdevelop version? |
| 09:06.27 | Shirakawasuna | Kebianizao: I mean kdevelop |
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| 09:06.29 | Shirakawasuna | yeah |
| 09:06.38 | Kebianizao | umm, let me see |
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| 09:07.17 | Kebianizao | I could move to 3.4.0 or 3.3.5 |
| 09:07.29 | Shirakawasuna | peter_pan: I suppose you could add a script to ~/.kde/Autostart for a temporary fix... |
| 09:07.38 | Kebianizao | which one do you think it's better |
| 09:08.01 | Shirakawasuna | Kebianizao: 3.4.0 first - if it works better, you don't lose as many features. |
| 09:08.11 | Kebianizao | ok, I'll try |
| 09:08.28 | Kebianizao | it takes looong to close :) |
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| 09:09.59 | Shirakawasuna | sounds fun :) |
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| 09:26.00 | Kebianizao | no kdevelop crashed :S |
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| 09:35.46 | Schalken | I'm looking for a qt theme that is also avaliable for gtk. I have qtcurve, any others? |
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| 09:39.33 | Kebianizao | now it seems that 3.4 memory usage is correct and somehwat constant (250MB) |
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| 09:48.23 | tarsonis | hi :) is it possible to set qt/kde themes (qtcurve) w/o having kcontrol installed? |
| 09:49.50 | Schalken | tarsonis: you could edit the text file |
| 09:50.27 | kongkong | who am i? |
| 09:50.45 | Schalken | kongkong: ya mum |
| 09:50.50 | Schalken | :) |
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| 09:51.45 | tarsonis | Schalken, where do i find it? :) |
| 09:52.50 | Schalken | tarsonis: search for a file with "qtcurve" in it |
| 09:52.56 | Schalken | in its name |
| 09:53.32 | Schalken | tarsonis: mine is ~/.config/.qtcurvestylerc |
| 09:53.32 | tarsonis | ok i'll do |
| 09:53.41 | Schalken | tarsonis: yours might also |
| 09:53.47 | tarsonis | hmm |
| 09:53.57 | tarsonis | can i set colors there too? |
| 09:54.18 | tarsonis | i never tried, used to use kcontrol |
| 09:54.24 | Schalken | tarsonis: no, thats seperate from the qtstyle |
| 09:55.25 | tarsonis | and where i should find this config? i guess the qtcurve style kde colors whatever swap over to the gtk ones too |
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| 09:56.04 | Schalken | tarsonis: im not sure about where the color settings are. |
| 09:56.13 | Schalken | tarsonis: why can't you run kcontrol? |
| 09:56.19 | Shirakawasuna | Kebianizao: I suppose you have narrowed it down a little, then |
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| 09:56.35 | tarsonis | Schalken, i dont want to emerge it |
| 09:56.45 | tarsonis | it has a bunch of deps |
| 09:56.55 | tarsonis | and a long compiletime |
| 09:57.20 | Schalken | tarsonis: it depends on everything any other kde appd oes |
| 09:57.22 | Schalken | does* |
| 09:57.44 | Schalken | tarsonis: so if your trying to make kde apps look at home on your gtk desktop, you will have to emerge those deps anyway |
| 09:57.46 | Shirakawasuna | Kebianizao: I was hoping the other one worked, too. Here's my method for getting help on something I don't understand (lots and lots of things): google (I'm sure you've done this), ask in IRC, ask in the forums, file a bug report for my distro, file a bug report directly to the app's project, in that order. |
| 09:58.24 | tarsonis | nope |
| 09:58.27 | peter_pan | Shirakawasuna, sorry, i was afk, will try to set up a solution with the Autostart file |
| 09:58.28 | tarsonis | it doesnt. |
| 09:58.39 | Shirakawasuna | peter_pan: psh, np! :) |
| 09:58.51 | Kebianizao | Shirakawasuna: it seems ot work for 3.4.0 for the moment |
| 09:59.00 | Schalken | tarsonis: what does kcontrol depend on that, say, kopete doesnt? |
| 09:59.01 | tarsonis | http://nopaste.info/cb9bbd3ff8.html |
| 09:59.02 | tarsonis | @ Schalken |
| 09:59.04 | Shirakawasuna | peter_pan: hope it works, shouldn't be too difficult. btw, Autostart is a folder - put a script in th ere and chmod +x it. |
| 09:59.11 | tarsonis | kopete is already installed. |
| 09:59.13 | peter_pan | aight |
| 09:59.16 | Kebianizao | Shirakawasuna: I also filed a bug: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=147741 |
| 09:59.48 | Schalken | tarsonis: ah. i see |
| 09:59.59 | Kebianizao | I'm quite sure it's a kdevelop problem so I bypassed my distro and some other places, I don't want to bother more than necessary |
| 10:00.05 | Schalken | tarsonis: kde apps depend on the libraries, kcontrol depends on the entire desktop :P |
| 10:00.28 | Schalken | tarsonis: so, kde color config, hmm |
| 10:00.53 | tarsonis | yup |
| 10:01.08 | tarsonis | well its not the entire desktop anyway |
| 10:01.13 | Schalken | tarsonis: i am actually quite sure theres an app for configuring qt styles (color etc) that isnt kcontrol |
| 10:01.25 | Shirakawasuna | Kebianizao: it doesn't spit out any errors when you run it from the command line? |
| 10:01.31 | Schalken | tarsonis: cd /usr/bin; ls qt*; |
| 10:01.45 | tarsonis | qtconfig is available |
| 10:01.52 | tarsonis | but looks sorta old |
| 10:01.54 | Kebianizao | Shirakawasuna: no |
| 10:01.59 | Schalken | tarsonis: might do the job |
| 10:02.00 | Shirakawasuna | tarsonis: ~/.kde/share/apps/kdisplay/color-schemes. Copy a color scheme from elsewhere there and tweak away |
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| 10:02.05 | Kebianizao | Shirakawasuna: at least not anything relevant |
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| 10:02.19 | Schalken | tarsonis: there you go ^ :) |
| 10:02.25 | tarsonis | i guess so |
| 10:02.35 | tarsonis | well, worth a try |
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| 10:03.22 | tarsonis | http://sau.frubar.net/19891 @ Schalken || qtcurve looks somehow... terribly wrong |
| 10:03.23 | Shirakawasuna | Kebianizao: hmm. Find a livecd w/ kdevelop on it, maybe? :) |
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| 10:03.41 | Shirakawasuna | Kebianizao: although you say you know it's not the distro, so hmm |
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| 10:05.07 | Schalken | tarsonis: do other qt apps have motif style? |
| 10:05.24 | tarsonis | nope |
| 10:05.43 | Kebianizao | Shirakawasuna: well, having 3.4.1 not working and 3.4.0 doing, the most probable is a bug (regression) on 3.4.1 |
| 10:05.58 | Schalken | tarsonis: odd. |
| 10:06.35 | Shirakawasuna | Kebianizao: yeah, sorry I had versions confused :) |
| 10:06.55 | tarsonis | Shaikun, yup. |
| 10:06.58 | tarsonis | very. |
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| 10:07.08 | Schalken | tarsonis: can you set the GUI style to qtcurve in qtconfig |
| 10:07.09 | Schalken | ? |
| 10:07.16 | tarsonis | nope |
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| 10:07.32 | Shirakawasuna | 3.4.1 is only a month and a half old |
| 10:07.36 | tarsonis | i guess its not in the path of qtconfig |
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| 10:07.56 | Schalken | tarsonis: well that's all i got then im afraid |
| 10:07.56 | Shirakawasuna | Kebianizao: good luck :) |
| 10:08.18 | Schalken | tarsonis: kde has a gui for configuring gtk styles, gnome doesnt have a gui for configuring qt styles :S |
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| 10:08.41 | Kebianizao | Shirakawasuna: moreover debian just apply some build system patches and a gdb focus patch, so no breakage expected from there |
| 10:08.44 | Shirakawasuna | tarsonis: nano -w ~/.qt/qtrc? |
| 10:08.50 | Kebianizao | Shirakawasuna: thanks for your help |
| 10:08.52 | Kebianizao | :) |
| 10:08.54 | Shirakawasuna | Kebianizao: np! |
| 10:09.38 | Kebianizao | Shirakawasuna: did you go to akademy? |
| 10:09.49 | Shirakawasuna | Kebianizao: no, have no programming skills :) |
| 10:09.59 | Shirakawasuna | I should probably get some |
| 10:10.11 | tarsonis | Shirakawasuna, there isnt any |
| 10:11.06 | Shirakawasuna | tarsonis: ooh, sounds fun. Here's mine http://phpfi.com/248649 |
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| 10:12.03 | tarsonis | Shirakawasuna, well i'm not using kde either |
| 10:12.17 | tarsonis | and my qt apps look fine so far. |
| 10:12.21 | Kebianizao | Shirakawasuna: I don't have much either, but if you like KDE is a great chance to meet a lot of interesting/wise and amazing people |
| 10:12.39 | Shirakawasuna | tarsonis: most of those dependencies are pretty small, you know |
| 10:12.48 | Kebianizao | user support is also part of KDE |
| 10:12.56 | Shirakawasuna | tarsonis: looks like ~50 mb |
| 10:13.16 | Shirakawasuna | tarsonis: then why are you messing with their appearance? |
| 10:14.04 | Shirakawasuna | Kebianizao: cool. I'm also not European ;) |
| 10:14.07 | tarsonis | Shirakawasuna, because i want a ?green? style. |
| 10:14.25 | tarsonis | for qt _and_ gtk apps. |
| 10:14.30 | Shirakawasuna | tarsonis: if you care that much about making qt apps look good, just get kcontrol ;) |
| 10:14.38 | tarsonis | =_= |
| 10:14.42 | Shirakawasuna | tarsonis: it'll take you more time to tweak out the color values and get the right confs together |
| 10:14.45 | Kebianizao | Shirakawasuna: the only difference regarding that is that it would be a little more expensive |
| 10:15.05 | Shirakawasuna | ha, 'a little' |
| 10:15.06 | tarsonis | i guess i have no choice |
| 10:15.17 | Shirakawasuna | plane ticket to Frankfurt = $ |
| 10:16.24 | Shirakawasuna | tarsonis: hopefully they'll come out with a better gui for qt4/kde4 in gnome. |
| 10:16.29 | Shirakawasuna | /gtk whatev |
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| 10:17.29 | tarsonis | i just emerge it with -1 now |
| 10:17.37 | tarsonis | so it wont be updated later |
| 10:18.17 | Shirakawasuna | be careful with --depclean, then |
| 10:18.19 | Kebianizao | Shirakawasuna: Texas or Colorado¿? |
| 10:18.29 | Shirakawasuna | Kebianizao: Washington |
| 10:18.42 | Kebianizao | nearly :/ |
| 10:19.01 | Kebianizao | Shirakawasuna: well, maybe some day... |
| 10:19.15 | tarsonis | Shirakawasuna, i dont use depclean anyway :) |
| 10:19.23 | Kebianizao | Shirakawasuna: isn't it too much early/late there? |
| 10:19.33 | tarsonis | i'm fine then |
| 10:20.21 | Shirakawasuna | tarsonis: aww, it keeps it so clean, though :) |
| 10:20.36 | Shirakawasuna | you could just use package.mask to keep it from upgrading ;) |
| 10:20.49 | Shirakawasuna | Kebianizao: oh yes |
| 10:20.53 | Shirakawasuna | I should go to sleep |
| 10:21.00 | Shirakawasuna | it's the summer, though, and no work tomorrow :) |
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| 10:21.17 | Kebianizao | Shirakawasuna: right |
| 10:21.31 | Kebianizao | Shirakawasuna: strange how you look so awake ;) |
| 10:22.00 | tarsonis | Shirakawasuna, eh, i don't care in the end := |
| 10:22.13 | tarsonis | my gentoo never survives more than 4 months |
| 10:22.34 | Shirakawasuna | heh |
| 10:22.40 | Shirakawasuna | I went a year and a half with few major hiccups :) |
| 10:22.47 | Shirakawasuna | then archlinux, woo |
| 10:22.48 | tarsonis | and not because i brake it |
| 10:22.54 | tarsonis | because i get bored. |
| 10:23.05 | Shirakawasuna | ah |
| 10:23.10 | Shirakawasuna | ok, sleep time, good luck all |
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| 11:34.55 | Overburn | guyz... i have fedora core.. if i want to install the nvidia drivers, and i get the srpm of the kernel... do i have to install the srpm so that the driver installer would compile a kernel interface? |
| 11:35.21 | Kebianizao | Overburn: you'd rather ask #fedora |
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| 11:37.13 | Battlefrank | hi |
| 11:37.19 | Battlefrank | i need... |
| 11:37.22 | Battlefrank | ...help |
| 11:37.29 | Battlefrank | help.... |
| 11:37.33 | Battlefrank | ...with... |
| 11:37.34 | thiago | you need not to press Enter before you finish your sentences. |
| 11:37.44 | Battlefrank | oh, sorry |
| 11:37.47 | Battlefrank | i feel pretty |
| 11:37.53 | Battlefrank | ... |
| 11:38.04 | thiago | you should feel stupid for flooding instead. |
| 11:38.07 | Battlefrank | this conversation didn't happen |
| 11:38.10 | thiago | just don't. |
| 11:38.20 | Counterbob | hi |
| 11:38.23 | Counterbob | i need help |
| 11:38.25 | thiago | explain what you need help with the best way you can. Someone will help you if they can. |
| 11:38.27 | Counterbob | with wine |
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| 11:38.43 | Kebianizao | Counterbob: then #winehq |
| 11:38.47 | thiago | ok, let me rephrase: explain what in *KDE* you need help with... |
| 11:39.20 | Counterbob | sorry, but #wine is empty 24/7, i will try #winehq though |
| 11:39.39 | Counterbob | wtf? |
| 11:39.46 | Counterbob | it says i am logged in as root |
| 11:39.48 | Kebianizao | Counterbob: maybe becuase the right channel is winehq and not wine |
| 11:39.50 | Counterbob | i changed my name! |
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| 11:39.57 | Counterbob | ... |
| 11:40.19 | thiago | you're still logged in as root |
| 11:40.27 | Counterbob | ??? |
| 11:40.28 | thiago | 08:39 -!- Counterbob [n=root@adsl-69-209-103-200.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net] |
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| 11:40.35 | thiago | see "root" there? |
| 11:40.38 | Counterbob | how do i fix? |
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| 11:41.06 | Maxdamantus | Counterbob, you need to reconnect. |
| 11:41.10 | Counterbob | ... |
| 11:41.12 | Counterbob | ok |
| 11:41.18 | Maxdamantus | That's the nick you use when you connect. |
| 11:41.21 | thiago | disconnect from this IRC client, log on as a normal user, then reconnect. |
| 11:41.29 | Maxdamantus | Or name that the oidentd returns. |
| 11:41.36 | Maxdamantus | thiago, no. |
| 11:41.37 | Counterbob | or i can open this 36 times, putting 9 on each desktop |
| 11:41.52 | thiago | Maxdamantus: the IRC client generally sends the account name |
| 11:41.55 | Maxdamantus | n=root means his first nick he used this session was "root" |
| 11:42.01 | Maxdamantus | thiago, it doesn't. |
| 11:42.05 | thiago | Maxdamantus: no... it means the IRC client sent "root" |
| 11:42.08 | Maxdamantus | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:42.15 | Maxdamantus | IT DOESN'T |
| 11:42.29 | Maxdamantus | My username is maxdamantus, no "Maxdam" in that. |
| 11:42.43 | Maxdamantus | Watch. |
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| 11:43.03 | thiago | mobtek: well, you're wrong. |
| 11:43.21 | Counterbob | i will check this now |
| 11:43.23 | ImNotMax | Ok, well that's not because of my unix name. |
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| 11:43.35 | ImNotMax | Oh. Maybe it is. |
| 11:43.35 | ImNotMax | Nvm. |
| 11:43.41 | thiago | hmm... I have ident on |
| 11:43.42 | thiago | dammit |
| 11:43.53 | thiago | anyways, I know the IRC protocol. It's the first argument to the USER command. |
| 11:43.59 | Maxdamantus | thiago, it's because of the ident you set with USER, sorry. |
| 11:44.14 | Maxdamantus | Unless you have oidentd, which overrides it. |
| 11:44.22 | thiago | the IRC client generally sends your Unix account name. But it can be configured to something else. |
| 11:44.38 | Maxdamantus | Does itr eally matter? :d |
| 11:44.46 | sui | hi, got a question about previews for pdf files in konqueror? how can i activate them, so that i get previews like they are generated for e.g. jpg? |
| 11:44.53 | thiago | Maxdamantus: well, it matters if we want to continue this flame-war :-) |
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| 11:45.18 | Battlefrank | yo! wut up my clone? |
| 11:45.24 | Counterbob | NOT MUCH MAN |
| 11:45.43 | Battlefrank | hey, is this one ROOT? |
| 11:45.57 | Maxdamantus | No, it's root. |
| 11:46.02 | Maxdamantus | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:46.07 | Kebianizao | please stop floodng the channel with rubbish |
| 11:46.17 | Battlefrank | ... |
| 11:46.23 | Battlefrank | i am still root! |
| 11:46.27 | Battlefrank | i am depressed |
| 11:46.40 | Maxdamantus | What client? |
| 11:47.01 | Battlefrank | using both IRC clients that come with sabayon 3.3 64bit |
| 11:47.07 | Battlefrank | Konversation |
| 11:47.08 | Battlefrank | and |
| 11:47.18 | Battlefrank | some other thing |
| 11:47.26 | Maxdamantus | How did you "change" your name? |
| 11:47.28 | spawn57 | Battlefrank is n=root@adsl-69-209-103-200.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net (sirc user) |
| 11:47.36 | spawn57 | yeah you're still root |
| 11:47.41 | Battlefrank | ... |
| 11:47.53 | Sho_ | Wouldn't surprise me if Sabayon set up root as default account .. |
| 11:47.53 | Battlefrank | it even said pick a nick this time! |
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| 11:48.15 | Battlefrank | i can't get on default account |
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| 11:48.23 | spawn57 | you can't? |
| 11:48.28 | Maxdamantus | Battlefrank, are you using the LiveCD..? |
| 11:48.29 | Battlefrank | i messed with the settings too hard |
| 11:48.34 | Battlefrank | and no |
| 11:48.37 | Battlefrank | i installed |
| 11:49.12 | Battlefrank | i'm on root |
| 11:49.15 | Battlefrank | ... |
| 11:49.23 | Battlefrank | any alt wine helps? |
| 11:49.24 | Maxdamantus | Try (in XChat) /exec mkdir /test |
| 11:49.41 | Maxdamantus | See if it has priviliges to make that directory. |
| 11:49.57 | Maxdamantus | Or just use the environmental variable.. |
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| 11:50.03 | Maxdamantus | Which can just be changed I think. |
| 11:50.03 | Battlefrank | xchat yells at me |
| 11:50.15 | Battlefrank | RUNNING IRC AS ROOT IS STOOPID |
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| 11:50.24 | Maxdamantus | Oh. You're running as root then. |
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| 11:50.33 | Battlefrank | yes |
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| 11:50.46 | Battlefrank | the original user thing got messed up |
| 11:50.48 | Battlefrank | badly |
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| 11:50.56 | Battlefrank | and now i can never return |
| 11:51.04 | Maxdamantus | Make a new user then, manually. |
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| 11:51.08 | Battlefrank | banished forever to the realm of admins |
| 11:51.15 | Battlefrank | ... |
| 11:51.18 | Battlefrank | i could |
| 11:51.23 | Battlefrank | but i'm too lazy |
| 11:51.25 | Sho_ | Ask in #yourdistro how to add a new user account |
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| 11:52.27 | battlefrank2 | yo |
| 11:52.34 | battlefrank2 | am i still root? |
| 11:53.14 | battlefrank2 | nope! |
| 11:53.47 | battlefrank2 | except they say "HAS LATEST VERZON FO' HELP |
| 11:53.53 | battlefrank2 | and |
| 11:54.12 | battlefrank2 | i can't find a sabayon/gentoo wine on there! |
| 11:54.26 | battlefrank2 | anyone here? |
| 11:54.45 | battlefrank2 | ... |
| 11:54.50 | Sho_ | Ask in #sabayon |
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| 11:56.06 | battlefrank2 | hey |
| 11:56.14 | battlefrank2 | i think you can answer this though! |
| 11:56.23 | battlefrank2 | http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iVersionId=3731 |
| 11:56.28 | battlefrank2 | i need to know |
| 11:56.33 | battlefrank2 | what is oss sound? |
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| 11:56.48 | battlefrank2 | it dont show up in winecfg |
| 11:56.50 | Sho_ | OpenSoundSystem, a deprecated audio framework on Linux. |
| 11:56.57 | battlefrank2 | !!! |
| 11:57.00 | battlefrank2 | how i get? |
| 11:57.09 | Sho_ | Ask in #yourdistro |
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| 11:58.22 | battlefrank2 | they are all afk |
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| 11:59.14 | battlefrank2 | ... |
| 11:59.38 | battlefrank2 | HELLO? |
| 11:59.44 | battlefrank2 | ... |
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| 12:01.41 | Counterbob | ... |
| 12:01.47 | Counterbob | NOONE HERE? |
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| 12:02.25 | Counterbob | HEY |
| 12:02.29 | Counterbob | HELP NEEDED |
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| 12:02.49 | Counterbob | ... |
| 12:02.53 | Counterbob | i need help |
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| 12:03.17 | Counterbob | need help |
| 12:03.20 | Counterbob | anyone? |
| 12:03.25 | Counterbob | please? |
| 12:03.32 | Counterbob | i need help. |
| 12:03.49 | Sho_ | Dude, please stop spamming. The stuff you're asking for help with is off-topic here, as you've been told. |
| 12:03.58 | Sho_ | This channel is about KDE, not Wine |
| 12:04.08 | Counterbob | but im asking about oss |
| 12:04.17 | Counterbob | and yourdistro is all afk |
| 12:04.26 | Sho_ | OSS isn't a KDE product either, and what's more, it's obsolete technology |
| 12:04.37 | Counterbob | ... |
| 12:04.45 | Sho_ | About the only application that still works better with OSS than with the newer ALSA is Wine, so ask Wine people about it, or OSS people |
| 12:04.45 | Counterbob | what replaced it? |
| 12:05.10 | Counterbob | k |
| 12:05.10 | Kebianizao | Counterbob: alsa |
| 12:05.13 | Counterbob | but |
| 12:05.20 | RushPL_ | Sho_: OSS is not obsolete |
| 12:05.20 | Counterbob | i need OSS for source |
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| 12:05.27 | RushPL_ | see the latest OSS release |
| 12:05.38 | Counterbob | fo' sabayon? |
| 12:05.48 | RushPL_ | it's working perfectly, has mature and good working drivers |
| 12:05.56 | Counterbob | uhh |
| 12:05.58 | Counterbob | link? |
| 12:06.33 | Counterbob | ... |
| 12:06.48 | RushPL_ | http://www.opensound.com/press/2007/oss-gpl-cddl.txt |
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| 12:07.03 | RushPL_ | and it has drivers for audigys that alsa does not have |
| 12:07.13 | Sho_ | RushPL_: Tell me when it's back in mainline in a usable version *shrugs* |
| 12:07.28 | Counterbob | i mean a link to a download for sabayon |
| 12:07.36 | Counterbob | that works with sbayon |
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| 12:07.54 | RushPL_ | Sho_: dunno if it's goint to mainline but I just say you should try it and see that it is mature already and working. |
| 12:08.00 | RushPL_ | it was commercial for a long time. |
| 12:08.05 | Counterbob | uhh |
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| 12:08.19 | faust_ | hello |
| 12:08.22 | Counterbob | can i get a link to an OSS for sabayon? |
| 12:08.33 | Sho_ | Counterbob: Ask in Sabayon, not in #kde. This is the last warning. |
| 12:08.39 | Counterbob | but |
| 12:08.53 | Counterbob | i got permabanned from sabayon for asking for help |
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| 12:09.01 | Counterbob | i got... nazibanned |
| 12:09.04 | Sho_ | Then try a less crappy distro |
| 12:09.06 | RushPL_ | USE="-alsa oss" emerge --newuse world |
| 12:09.08 | RushPL_ | :) |
| 12:09.13 | RushPL_ | and install the drivers |
| 12:09.14 | RushPL_ | manually |
| 12:09.15 | Counterbob | ok |
| 12:09.34 | Counterbob | and sho, this IRC is dead most of the time... |
| 12:09.37 | mneisen | Hi, I cannot seem to add another local directory as a data source to KAddressBook. IIRC, it used to be possible, but I cannot find the option any more. Do I remember incorrectly? Alternatively: Where is the option? I am using KDE 3.5.7 on Kubuntu Feisty. |
| 12:09.40 | RushPL_ | Counterbob: be careful or you'll break anything |
| 12:09.45 | RushPL_ | *something |
| 12:10.19 | faust_ | cya |
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| 12:10.40 | Sho_ | mneisen: Hm I'm only aware of the options to add LDAP servers |
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| 12:11.08 | Counterbob | its matrixing on me |
| 12:11.17 | Counterbob | with the flashin /\- |
| 12:11.28 | Counterbob | why did they make that the loading thing? |
| 12:11.31 | mneisen | Sho_: Well, I remember distinctly to have this option. |
| 12:11.45 | mneisen | Sho_: Should read: "to have had this option" |
| 12:12.02 | Sho_ | mneisen: I can't find it either |
| 12:12.15 | Sho_ | mneisen: Maybe ask in #kontact when/if it was removed |
| 12:12.24 | mneisen | Sho_: Thanks for the pointer! :-D |
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| 12:12.35 | mneisen | DIdnt know there was a Kontact channel. |
| 12:12.40 | Sho_ | mneisen: ah, wait, got it |
| 12:12.48 | mneisen | Sho_: Great. |
| 12:12.53 | Counterbob | wait, does emerge download? |
| 12:12.53 | mneisen | Sho_: Where is it? |
| 12:12.56 | Sho_ | mneisen: Settings -> Show Extension Bar -> Address Books |
| 12:13.12 | mneisen | Sho_: THANKS. |
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| 12:13.17 | Sho_ | mneisen: This makes a new list view appear in the lower-left of the window, with an Add button beneath it |
| 12:13.21 | mneisen | Sho_: That's what I remembered. |
| 12:13.27 | Sho_ | mneisen: Click it, and in the dialog that appears you can chose "Directory" |
| 12:13.29 | mneisen | Thank you so much. |
| 12:13.32 | Counterbob | everyone at my house is lagging, does energe download? |
| 12:13.38 | Counterbob | emerge |
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| 12:14.38 | Sho_ | mneisen: Not very intuitive UI-wise :) The list view should be in the prefs dialog |
| 12:15.00 | mneisen | Sho_: Well, it's OK for me to have it where it is now. |
| 12:15.22 | mneisen | Sho_: If only it wasn't so easy to hide it - I think I might have hit a strange combination of keys ... :-( |
| 12:15.33 | icwiener | Counterbob: So you got banned out of a channel for asking whatever questions. Now you think things will get better by asking these questions off topic in another channel? |
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| 12:15.54 | Counterbob | i don't have a choice |
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| 12:17.22 | icwiener | Counterbob: Try reading http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html and then ask the sabayon guys to unban you. That'd be the best thing for everyone. |
| 12:18.16 | Counterbob | i can't see the channel |
| 12:18.28 | Counterbob | i don't know who to contact |
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| 12:26.04 | Counterbob | anyone know why emerge froze? |
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| 12:27.08 | Counterbob | ... |
| 12:27.30 | icwiener | Counterbob: Most of the people here don't use/know emerge. |
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| 13:02.35 | bEe_ | i have ugly xchat icon on my systray after update. is it kde-related? i have no xchat systray plugins installed |
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| 13:03.35 | bEe_ | sorry.. found solution ) |
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| 13:09.18 | Pc_ | what is kde turkish changel |
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| 13:09.37 | pinotree | ? |
| 13:11.19 | timrs | Pc_ you can see all channels with /list then u can find it-- i don't see it there, maybe im just blind |
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| 13:30.12 | user1_ | evolution is kde or gnome? |
| 13:30.39 | Simeon_H | it's cross platform GTK ware methinks |
| 13:30.39 | Daverocks | user1_: gnome |
| 13:30.48 | Daverocks | yeah, it works on kde fine |
| 13:31.23 | user1_ | is there kde version of evolution |
| 13:31.29 | Simeon_H | i tried to plug the male plug of my parallel cable into a male socket |
| 13:31.35 | Simeon_H | I hope I'm not this bad in bed >:( |
| 13:31.38 | Kebianizao | user1_: no |
| 13:31.39 | Daverocks | Simeon_H: ouch |
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| 13:32.02 | Simeon_H | well I did build the device I have connected to my computer |
| 13:32.09 | Daverocks | user1_: kmail, say, but it doesn't have integrated calendar etc |
| 13:32.15 | pinotree | kontact? |
| 13:32.21 | Simeon_H | and I have a fairly solid understanding of how it works |
| 13:32.31 | Simeon_H | and I wrote software for it meself ^_^ |
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| 13:35.09 | user1_ | so what other fun kde application should i install |
| 13:35.29 | Kebianizao | user1_: what for? |
| 13:35.40 | user1_ | a good desktop |
| 13:36.06 | Daverocks | user1_: a good desktop for? :P |
| 13:36.44 | user1_ | for fun |
| 13:36.48 | Kebianizao | user1_: KDE is already a good desktop |
| 13:37.00 | user1_ | but im using it on netbsd |
| 13:37.09 | user1_ | is it a bad idea? |
| 13:37.16 | user1_ | will you blame on me |
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| 13:38.50 | Hagfish2 | I have a keyboard shortcut for "change virtual desktop" assigned to my Left logo key + Tab, but it only registers the keydown, not the keyup. |
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| 13:40.35 | gdiebel | has anyone noticed the slowness of konsole when it is really large 1920x1175 ? When the full screen is filled with say a log file, scrollback and refresh are kinda slow. much slower than gnome-terminal for instance. |
| 13:41.30 | gdiebel | Hagfish2: yeah mine is like that too. |
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| 13:42.58 | gdiebel | Hagfish2: by left logo, you mean winkey? |
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| 13:43.31 | Battlefrank | i need help |
| 13:44.00 | Battlefrank | i need help |
| 13:44.29 | Battlefrank | i need HELP |
| 13:44.29 | abb | what help? |
| 13:44.41 | Battlefrank | what is OSS, and how do i get it? |
| 13:44.49 | Battlefrank | wait |
| 13:44.54 | Battlefrank | i know what oss is |
| 13:44.56 | Battlefrank | but |
| 13:45.01 | Battlefrank | how do i get it? |
| 13:45.17 | abb | hm... |
| 13:45.24 | icwiener_ | Battlefrank: It's (still) a question that doesn't belong here... |
| 13:45.59 | pinotree | Battlefrank: and, please just ask for help *ONCE* |
| 13:46.02 | gdiebel | Battlefrank: uh try reading the wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open-source_software |
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| 13:46.05 | Battlefrank | i already told you, i don't know the admin names on #sabayon |
| 13:46.32 | Battlefrank | i am looking for open sound source |
| 13:46.36 | icwiener_ | Battlefrank: And you didn't read the text as well... |
| 13:46.48 | icwiener_ | Battlefrank: http://www.4front-tech.com/download.cgi |
| 13:47.02 | Battlefrank | uhh |
| 13:47.14 | Battlefrank | what option do i choose if i use sabayon? |
| 13:47.26 | pinotree | Battlefrank: please ask in #sabayon |
| 13:47.29 | icwiener_ | TAR |
| 13:47.35 | Battlefrank | tar... |
| 13:47.36 | icwiener_ | pinotree: He's banned there. |
| 13:47.43 | pinotree | bad for him, i don't care |
| 13:47.56 | Hagfish2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:48.00 | Hagfish2 | And it changed quite recently. |
| 13:48.05 | gdiebel | Battlefrank: try #gentoo and be nice. |
| 13:48.07 | Hagfish2 | A few months ago maybe. |
| 13:48.10 | Battlefrank | closest thing to TAR is tru64 |
| 13:48.32 | abb | OSS 2.0 ? |
| 13:48.39 | icwiener_ | pinotree: Yeah, there was a discussion about it about an hour before, so I just wanted to inform you so the thing doesn't have to be gone through again. :) |
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| 13:48.40 | Hagfish2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:48.45 | Battlefrank | oh wait |
| 13:48.51 | Battlefrank | i feel like an idiot |
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| 13:49.30 | gdiebel | Hagfish2: could be. I believe bugs.kde.org has something relevant. |
| 13:49.38 | Hagfish2 | Oh? |
| 13:49.42 | Hagfish2 | I checked but couldn't find it. |
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| 13:51.03 | gdiebel | Hagfish2: see if http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=125246 is relevant |
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| 13:52.36 | Hagfish2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:52.48 | Hagfish2 | It seems different people have slightly different symptoms for the same bug. |
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| 13:55.12 | gdiebel | Hagfish2: see also: http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=140023 |
| 13:55.16 | Hagfish2 | Xmodmap -e "add mod4 = Super_L" |
| 13:55.19 | Hagfish2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:55.21 | Hagfish2 | That fixed it. |
| 13:55.44 | Hagfish2 | Thanks so much for pointing me in the right direction. |
| 13:55.50 | Hagfish2 | It's like regaining the use of a limb. |
| 13:56.00 | Hagfish2 | And means I can upgrade my KDE on my home PC. |
| 13:56.01 | Hagfish2 | Heh. |
| 13:56.22 | Hagfish2 | I wonder what the permanent way of fixing that is. |
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| 13:59.18 | Battlefrank | i installed OSS but it won't show up in WINE |
| 13:59.51 | pinotree | Battlefrank: do you know what you say, or just put some random words together in a single sentence? |
| 14:00.15 | pinotree | as said above, your problems have NOTHING to do with this channel |
| 14:00.21 | gdiebel | Hagfish2: put a keys.desktop in ~/.kde/Autostart/ The desktop file should look like: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29369/ |
| 14:00.35 | Hagfish2 | Wow, let's have a look... |
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| 14:00.51 | Battlefrank | i dont have a choice |
| 14:01.25 | smileaf | Battlefrank: you have lots of choices, you can ask in your distribution's channel, you could also ask in #wine |
| 14:01.39 | Battlefrank | #wine is empty |
| 14:01.45 | smileaf | #winehq then? |
| 14:01.47 | pinotree | #winehq is not. |
| 14:02.06 | Battlefrank | winehq is afk |
| 14:02.13 | smileaf | so sit there and wait? |
| 14:02.13 | pinotree | ???? |
| 14:02.21 | Battlefrank | ... |
| 14:02.54 | gdiebel | Hagfish2: then make ~/.keyswaps http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29370/ |
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| 14:03.04 | Battlefrank | oh yeah, my body won't be able to take the amount of time it will take to get a response |
| 14:03.05 | smileaf | patience is a good thing ;) |
| 14:03.35 | Hagfish2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:03.36 | pinotree | Battlefrank: my body as well, but it could just move and give you a reasonable kick |
| 14:03.51 | pinotree | Battlefrank: it's up to you, be calm and quiet or go away |
| 14:04.36 | Battlefrank | im tired, i just want answers so i can get some sleep |
| 14:04.52 | pinotree | then don't stress people |
| 14:04.58 | smileaf | get some sleep and check that channel in the morning then? |
| 14:05.07 | Battlefrank | they NEVER answer |
| 14:05.29 | smileaf | you could also ask your favorite search engine ;) |
| 14:05.38 | Battlefrank | ... |
| 14:05.39 | pinotree | if NEVER == within a minutes, yeah |
| 14:05.41 | gdiebel | Hagfish2: yes perhaps Option "XkbOptions" "altwin:super_win" |
| 14:06.08 | Kebianizao | Battlefrank: if you behave there same as here I understand the silence |
| 14:06.23 | Hagfish2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:06.51 | gdiebel | Hagfish2: nope you need to end your session |
| 14:06.52 | Kebianizao | Battlefrank: www.codeweavers.com go there and ask them for support. I'm sure you will get an answer |
| 14:07.08 | Kebianizao | Kebianizao: you should ask for a quote first of course ;) |
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| 14:07.17 | Hagfish2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:07.24 | Battlefrank | ... |
| 14:07.44 | Battlefrank | kill tireness with caffiene |
| 14:08.00 | pinotree | *yawn* |
| 14:08.52 | Battlefrank | i hope the caffiene works before sleep |
| 14:09.53 | Kebianizao | Battlefrank: I'm sorry. I should have pointed this: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html way before... |
| 14:10.10 | Kebianizao | Battlefrank: please read it fully |
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| 14:10.44 | Battlefrank | fully is a long time |
| 14:10.59 | Battlefrank | i don't know if my body can take it without decaying |
| 14:11.15 | MinceR | are you dying? |
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| 14:11.28 | Battlefrank | no |
| 14:11.36 | Kebianizao | Battlefrank: you don't have to do it right now, but you must before you go on lurking on IRC |
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| 14:12.00 | Battlefrank | i only plan on using irc for wine help for now |
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| 14:13.13 | Battlefrank | i want sleep |
| 14:13.41 | pinotree | then go sleeping and stop trolling here, it's easy ;) |
| 14:13.47 | Battlefrank | i been working on this for 2 sun goings up in a row |
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| 14:14.00 | Battlefrank | i want sleep |
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| 14:14.49 | Battlefrank | but |
| 14:14.54 | Battlefrank | i want OSS too |
| 14:14.59 | Battlefrank | i have OSS |
| 14:15.01 | Battlefrank | but |
| 14:15.08 | Battlefrank | WINE says no |
| 14:15.30 | Battlefrank | why does WINE say no? |
| 14:15.41 | pinotree | Battlefrank: ok, i'm not going to tolerate you and your TROLLING attitude more. you have the last chance to be a) quite b) on-topic |
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| 14:15.58 | pinotree | you choose |
| 14:16.07 | Battlefrank | hmm... |
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| 14:16.44 | Battlefrank | all your redirects lead to brick walls, and i can't post here. i guess it's back to windows..................................................................................damnit |
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| 14:17.18 | pinotree | you were told where ask, and you refused to be calm and quiet |
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| 14:17.38 | pinotree | the fault is only YOURS |
| 14:17.41 | Battlefrank | just ban me |
| 14:17.45 | pinotree | so, again, choose |
| 14:17.52 | Battlefrank | i choose the ban |
| 14:18.04 | pinotree | why can't you go away on your own? |
| 14:18.08 | Battlefrank | ... |
| 14:18.17 | pinotree | why oh why?! |
| 14:18.27 | Kebianizao | this is unbelievable |
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| 14:18.58 | Battlefrank | because i can't figuuure out why! |
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| 14:19.12 | *** kick/#kde [Battlefrank!n=pino@kde/pino] by pinotree (DIE) |
| 14:19.17 | principe-ante | No la encontre |
| 14:19.20 | gardo | lol |
| 14:19.22 | principe-ante | Me fui a buscar una princesa |
| 14:19.26 | mikkael | where can i change that my mousewheels scrolls 4 or 5 lines instead of the default 3 ? |
| 14:19.33 | gardo | that serves him right |
| 14:19.35 | gardo | :P |
| 14:19.39 | pinotree | mikkael: kde control center -> perhiperals -> mouse |
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| 14:19.55 | pinotree | principe-ante: the language of this channel is english |
| 14:20.10 | mikkael | oh right where it belongs, thanks |
| 14:20.27 | Kebianizao | thanks pino |
| 14:20.45 | mikkael | hmm i feel that was a good decision |
| 14:21.02 | Jugando | <pinotree> oh sorry but this messages are from other channel |
| 14:21.19 | Jugando | please for give me |
| 14:21.19 | pinotree | Jugando: oh, np then |
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| 14:22.13 | pinotree | Kebianizao: (actually, i didn't ban him, but i don't think he notice that ;) ) |
| 14:22.46 | Kebianizao | :) |
| 14:23.11 | Kebianizao | god bless the op :P |
| 14:23.23 | gardo | i was about to complain that there were no ops here |
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| 14:35.12 | basselito | Anyone know about any good intermediate linux podcasts around? Most podcasts I've found is for newbies like the Linux Reality or Linux Action Show... |
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| 14:38.27 | Sho_ | basselito: LUG Radio perhaps? |
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| 14:39.42 | basselito | Sho: is that the 4 mad brittish pirates? :D |
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| 14:41.10 | Sho_ | basselito: Perhaps :) I don't really listen to podcasts, but I know LUG Radio frequently has interview guests from the industry and occassionally KDE people (Aaron, Zack) |
| 14:42.29 | basselito | Sho: Thanks for the tip! :) |
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| 15:03.43 | TravisBarker | hi all im having trouble burning a dvd.iso using k3b was wondering if someone here might like to walk me through it |
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| 15:04.43 | TravisBarker | this error is caused by the low memorylocked resource limit |
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| 15:05.13 | TravisBarker | it suggests issuing "ulimit -l unlimited" |
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| 15:07.03 | Kebianizao | are you sure the writer is working? what k3b version? |
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| 15:11.34 | [heroin] | what's a sticky window? i never understood that and noticed what was difference with the window |
| 15:11.57 | Oddsocks | It stays in the same place across virtual desktops |
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| 15:13.56 | Oddsocks | Does anyone know what the difference between the 'config' directory and the 'config.kcfg' directory is? Do they have the same purpose, but one is a newer standard? |
| 15:14.17 | Kebianizao | I think one is default configuration |
| 15:14.27 | Kebianizao | and the other is config changed by user |
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| 15:15.12 | [heroin] | Oddsocks: thanks... a stick window doesn't necessarily means it stays on top of other windows too right? |
| 15:15.30 | Oddsocks | Hmm, not so sure Kebian because config contains rc files in 'ini' style whilst the other are xml files. These are actually in /usr/share too. |
| 15:15.38 | Oddsocks | yes heroin |
| 15:16.11 | wolsni | [heroin]: there is a separate setting to make a window always on top |
| 15:16.20 | wolsni | or always on bottom, for that matter |
| 15:16.31 | Oddsocks | Thats called something like "always above others" |
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| 15:29.10 | Anonycat | Is there any quick way to search if a given shortcut combination is in use/possibly for multiple applications? |
| 15:32.09 | principe-ante | hi |
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| 15:38.57 | Kebianizao | Anonycat: once you try to define a new one it tells you if it's in use |
| 15:39.15 | Kebianizao | when the shorcut is kde global |
| 15:39.35 | Kebianizao | apart from this each app has its own shorcut keys AFAIK |
| 15:41.05 | Anonycat | Is there any way I can see what specific event is being triggered by a given shortcut? |
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| 15:41.52 | Anonycat | specifically, in Amarok all the global shortcuts are working except Super+V (Stop) whcih stopped working a few days ago, and I think it's because that shortcut is doing something else |
| 15:43.25 | Kebianizao | I'm not sure, maybe ~/.xsession-errors could give you some clues |
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| 15:47.23 | gdiebel | Anonycat: just try to assign a global shortcut to the shortcut key in question. it will let you know if there is a conflict |
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| 15:50.07 | Anonycat | reassigning the shortcut to the same keys seems to have re-enabled it |
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| 17:12.38 | dissection | Hello. What is the command to start dcop from the terminal? |
| 17:12.58 | Kebianizao | dcopserver? |
| 17:13.01 | dissection | yes |
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| 17:14.14 | dissection | I have amaroknp.pl loaded on my irssi.. So unless dcop is started, I can an error saying cannot connect to network socket.. |
| 17:14.38 | dissection | It works if I manually run amarok, but I don't want to do that always |
| 17:14.41 | giannis | Ρε κανÎνας Έλληνας; |
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| 17:17.59 | Phobos | Hi. I have an audio jack on my notebook which should normally be used for a microphone. If I plug some speakers into it, it won't send the signal. How can I make the microphone jack act as a normal audio jack? I remember that it could be done under XP |
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| 17:18.16 | lxnay | hi all |
| 17:18.29 | lxnay | is there any problem with fish on 3.5.7 ? |
| 17:18.51 | dissection | What is the command to start dcop from the terminal? |
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| 17:21.19 | Kebianizao | dissection: dcopserver, but it's started ususally by kdeinit |
| 17:21.46 | Kebianizao | lxnay: not any that I'm aware, which doesn't mean not at all |
| 17:21.48 | dissection | I'm not running KDE |
| 17:22.26 | lxnay | http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=145123 |
| 17:22.29 | lxnay | that's it |
| 17:23.12 | Kebianizao | dissection: dcopserver |
| 17:23.49 | dissection | That didn't work, Kebianizao |
| 17:24.01 | Kebianizao | dissection: dcopserver --nosid |
| 17:24.12 | Kebianizao | lxnay: it has been working for me |
| 17:24.33 | lxnay | *** This bug has been confirmed by popular vote. *** |
| 17:25.19 | Kebianizao | ok, ok but I should read it carefully, there should be anything I'm doing differently |
| 17:25.23 | Kebianizao | or maybe you ;) |
| 17:25.58 | Kebianizao | lxnay: 64bits? |
| 17:26.04 | lxnay | Kebianizao: read, then speak |
| 17:26.07 | lxnay | erm.. write |
| 17:26.08 | lxnay | :) |
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| 17:27.33 | Kebianizao | lxnay: write or speak? ;) |
| 17:27.41 | lxnay | Kebianizao: either ones |
| 17:27.44 | lxnay | but if u speak |
| 17:27.48 | lxnay | I won't hear you |
| 17:27.58 | lxnay | even if u scream, doesn't matter |
| 17:28.43 | Kebianizao | :/ |
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| 17:36.33 | Kebianizao | lxnay: what libc6 version? |
| 17:38.51 | Kebianizao | lxnay: looks like libc6 problem |
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| 17:55.51 | DDustin | [KDE 3.5] I enabled transparency, but nothing happened. do I need a gfx card + drivers for window transparency to work? |
| 17:57.11 | wolsni | DDustin: you need to have the composite extension enabled in your X server configuration |
| 17:57.27 | DDustin | do you know where I can enable that? |
| 17:57.35 | wolsni | also, kwin may need a restart for transparency to be activated |
| 17:57.41 | wolsni | um, xorg.conf |
| 17:57.51 | timrs | in /etc/X11/xorg.conf u need to add some lines, ill find them real quick |
| 17:58.15 | DDustin | hrm, I was afraid of that.. I need to be root eh? |
| 17:58.21 | timrs | ya |
| 17:58.24 | DDustin | I should seriously just hack the root account on this machine |
| 17:58.41 | DDustin | if I just blank the password field in the shadow file for root, it'll make the password nothing right? |
| 17:58.46 | timrs | Section "Extensions" |
| 17:58.47 | timrs | <PROTECTED> |
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| 17:59.10 | wolsni | DDustin: no idea about that |
| 17:59.28 | timrs | maybe itll work if u use a live-cd |
| 17:59.42 | DDustin | ya that's what I'd use to change the shadow file |
| 17:59.50 | timrs | u can always undo it l8er, so its worth a try |
| 18:00.08 | DDustin | hmm... I just thought of something |
| 18:00.21 | SerpensV | the best way IMHO is chroot and passwd, not editing /etc/shadow |
| 18:00.21 | DDustin | if I mount the harddrive again, somewhere else |
| 18:00.28 | DDustin | wouldn't I have free accesss to what I just mounted? |
| 18:00.44 | DDustin | SerpensV: how does this chroot and passwd solution work now? |
| 18:01.19 | SerpensV | DDustin:I mean with liveCD |
| 18:01.35 | DDustin | doesn't passwd ask you for the old password? |
| 18:01.46 | SerpensV | not if you are root |
| 18:01.48 | wolsni | well, not for root |
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| 18:02.07 | SerpensV | I did it that way in my school :) |
| 18:02.18 | wolsni | since root isn't supposed to know users' passwords |
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| 18:03.01 | DDustin | you know what, I'll just go in with the livecd and modify xorg.conf |
| 18:03.04 | DDustin | that doesn't leave a trail |
| 18:03.06 | DDustin | and sounds easier |
| 18:03.13 | timrs | SerpensV: ur school uses linux? |
| 18:03.22 | SerpensV | chroot is _really_ easy |
| 18:03.38 | SerpensV | some students use, but most use windows |
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| 18:03.55 | SerpensV | teachers allow us to do what we want with linux |
| 18:04.04 | DDustin | SerpensV: if you're using a liveCD though the program will have its own shadows file |
| 18:04.13 | DDustin | you won't be modifying the installation's shadow |
| 18:04.19 | timrs | SerpensV: oh, thats interesting |
| 18:04.24 | CVirus | Which part of the .kde3.5 directory is responsible for the KDE look n' feel ? |
| 18:04.33 | DDustin | damn... that was too good to be true |
| 18:04.35 | DDustin | mount /dev/sda2 slash |
| 18:04.35 | DDustin | mount: only root can do that |
| 18:05.09 | timrs | SerpensV: my teachers barely know what linux is -- i can't use computers there any more for several reasons so i just bring slax |
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| 18:05.36 | SerpensV | DDustin:run licvecd, mount partition with your system, chroot there and you are root without password |
| 18:06.46 | DudeMan | Is there a way to change the behavior of KDE such that when an application is clicked on in the panel, that it auto-switches to that workspace? rather than restoring that app on the current workspace? |
| 18:07.46 | CVirus | Which part of the .kde3.5 directory is responsible for the KDE look n' feel ? |
| 18:08.05 | wolsni | DudeMan: that's how mine works by default |
| 18:08.07 | Mirrakor | DudeMan: I thought this is the default behaviour.. |
| 18:08.36 | DudeMan | wolsni: your works which way by default? |
| 18:08.50 | wolsni | auto-switching |
| 18:08.53 | wolsni | the one you said you want |
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| 18:09.14 | DudeMan | would it be different through a vnc session for some reason? |
| 18:09.35 | wolsni | seems doubtful, but I have no experience with that |
| 18:09.50 | DudeMan | out of the box on Debian, mine restores the app to the current workspace rather than the one it is in :( |
| 18:10.07 | wolsni | weird |
| 18:10.24 | DudeMan | and pesky :-) |
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| 18:13.09 | Mirrakor | DudeMan: Try to find change it in Kcontrol |
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| 18:17.48 | lwizardl | Hi |
| 18:18.06 | evren | Hello |
| 18:18.46 | lwizardl | how do I auto set folder images like in windows I have them named folder.jpg |
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| 18:19.48 | wolsni | lwizardl: right click on the folder, choose properties, set the icon |
| 18:20.15 | wolsni | you click on the existing icon in the properties dialog if you want to change it |
| 18:20.24 | lwizardl | is there a way to do that automatically? I don't want to do that in 2000 folders |
| 18:20.54 | wolsni | lwizardl: probably, do it in one and see how it's stored |
| 18:21.14 | wolsni | I think it adds a hidden file in the directory that tells it what image to use |
| 18:21.35 | lwizardl | k |
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| 18:23.02 | Sandeep | hi |
| 18:23.51 | taime1 | hi, i just installed kxdocker, the background is black and i cant figure out how to change this. also, im not using a composite manager currently. |
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| 18:25.19 | taime1 | how do i change the black background in kxdocker? |
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| 18:26.44 | xTs | Hi, what could be the reason that fish:// doesn't work with a server anymore? |
| 18:26.58 | xTs | (there was an update on the server) |
| 18:27.29 | wolsni | xTs: you could try sftp:// instead |
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| 18:27.45 | wolsni | fish is for older servers that don't support sftp |
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| 18:28.05 | xTs | with sftp i cant delete remote files |
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| 18:28.24 | wolsni | xTs: what makes you think that? |
| 18:28.35 | rabauke | hello! does anyone know whether "wobbly windows" are planned for KDE4's kwin? |
| 18:28.38 | xTs | i tried it ;) |
| 18:28.54 | wolsni | xTs: empirical evidence IS pretty convincing |
| 18:29.10 | wolsni | but just for kicks, try holding shift when you press the delete key |
| 18:29.32 | wolsni | rabauke: I believe screencaps of the current effects are on youtube |
| 18:29.51 | wolsni | I don't remember whether there was a video of wobbly windows |
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| 18:30.44 | taime1 | is anyone familiar with how to configure kxdocker? |
| 18:31.34 | CVirus | Which part of the .kde3.5 directory is responsible for the KDE look n' feel ? |
| 18:31.40 | rabauke | wolsni: no, there is no wobbling yet |
| 18:32.16 | wolsni | CVirus: you mean the style? |
| 18:32.26 | CVirus | wolsni: yes |
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| 18:32.35 | CVirus | wolsni: everything regarding theming actually |
| 18:32.40 | devurandom | Hi! |
| 18:32.45 | wolsni | CVirus: it's kind of spread out |
| 18:32.51 | xTs | hm, weird, now deleting works. 10 times before it didn't |
| 18:32.59 | devurandom | Is a problem with Kopete's Jabber wizard crashing on 64bit system known? |
| 18:33.00 | wolsni | the style info is in ~/.qt iirc |
| 18:33.02 | CVirus | wolsni: let me take a screenshot and show you what happened |
| 18:33.23 | Sho_ | rabauke: kwin wobbles just fine actually :) |
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| 18:36.37 | xTs | thanks anyway. Bye |
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| 18:37.01 | joss193 | weird. how can be controled if qstring is set or not, seems it does not want to work here ? |
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| 18:37.32 | Sho_ | joss193: ? |
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| 18:37.59 | CVirus | wolsni: http://img19.imageshack.us/my.php?image=amarokdb0.png |
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| 18:38.13 | joss193 | if this QString is loaded like this at least: mis= QString("%1").arg(di.do()()[di.currentdo()]); |
| 18:38.19 | CVirus | wolsni: this is the case with all my applications after i tried to change the look n' feel |
| 18:38.37 | joss193 | Sho_: it tends to hit that it is always set, for some reason |
| 18:39.36 | Sho_ | joss193: Make sure you understand the difference bezween isNull() and isEmpty(), perhaps |
| 18:39.40 | joss193 | i used with if (mis!=0) , it does only this , not that loop, where the printing does not give anythin, is there a mistake |
| 18:39.59 | joss193 | Sho_: yeah, i think there might be the solution |
| 18:40.06 | Sho_ | joss193: See the API docs |
| 18:40.12 | joss193 | Sho_: moment, trying |
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| 18:40.42 | wolsni | CVirus: what's wrong? you don't like your color scheme? |
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| 18:40.54 | joss193 | Sho_: i sometimes do, quite irresistably good docs kde has these days:) |
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| 18:41.14 | RivaeAerya | Can somebody tell me why i can't install my native language, Dutch, in KDE? it's grayed out! |
| 18:41.17 | CVirus | wolsni: what's with the black lines ! |
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| 18:41.52 | wolsni | CVirus: your color scheme says to alternate dark lines in list views |
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| 18:42.22 | DDustin | woo, transparency is enabled |
| 18:42.32 | DDustin | but now... all my windows go 100% transparent :X |
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| 18:43.00 | CVirus | wolsni: how can i change that ? |
| 18:43.01 | DDustin | I get this warning message "Translucency support is new and may cause problems" |
| 18:43.06 | DDustin | I'm guessing that its just buggy? |
| 18:43.26 | wolsni | CVirus: go to the Color Scheme configuration in kcontrol and set it to something you like |
| 18:43.30 | DDustin | is there a config file where I can say to not make windows 100% trasnparent? |
| 18:43.33 | wolsni | there are plenty of presets |
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| 18:44.48 | CVirus | wolsni: fixed .. thanks |
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| 18:45.36 | DDustin | wolsni: any idea how I can fix this? |
| 18:46.02 | wolsni | DDustin: not really, sorry |
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| 18:46.36 | wolsni | you could go back to a non-compositing WM long enough to use kcontrol to fix your settings, I suppose |
| 18:47.15 | DDustin | I kind of blindly clicked things and got transparency disabled |
| 18:47.18 | DDustin | but I'm trying to enable it again |
| 18:47.24 | DDustin | and I can't do it without making everything transparent |
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| 18:49.12 | DDustin | wow, this stuff is buggy |
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| 18:49.36 | joss193 | Sho_: yeah works right away, isEmpty(), was needed to be used.. |
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| 18:53.40 | DexterF | is there a daemon tools clone for kde? |
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| 18:56.03 | Sho_ | DexterF: There's a Linux kernel module and console utility called 'cdemu', and there's a KDE service menu for mounting images via cdemu from file manager context menus |
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| 18:57.55 | DexterF | I know of these, think they're not too convenient, I rather meant daemon tools clone in means of functionality. well, ok, guess I can live with that |
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| 18:58.22 | Sho_ | DexterF: Well in terms of functionality that''s what cdemu is |
| 18:58.29 | Sho_ | DexterF: I guess you mean in terms of interface |
| 18:58.44 | DexterF | umm, yes :) |
| 18:59.07 | wolsni | DexterF: also, if you install krusader you can browse .ISOs as easily as zip archives |
| 18:59.42 | DexterF | only iso tho |
| 18:59.45 | DDustin | well damn, screw that |
| 18:59.50 | DDustin | composite doesn't work at all |
| 18:59.52 | DDustin | it just freaks out |
| 19:00.08 | DexterF | guess ill have to write it myself :) |
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| 19:06.17 | Earthnail | Hi there |
| 19:06.41 | Earthnail | Can I prevent contact from loading KOrganizer each startup, even though I have the KOrganizer component disabled? |
| 19:07.09 | SerpensV | if you don't use it, uninstall it |
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| 19:08.01 | Earthnail | well, I only have a "kontact" package |
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| 19:13.24 | RivaeAerya | how can i set a default application for a specific file type? for example, i want to set the player of a .wav file to another one then provided by default. How do i do this? The .wav file was only an example, though. I just want to know generally how to set the application konqueror launches when you click on that file. |
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| 19:13.55 | RivaeAerya | I remember i once clicked on a wrench in a properties dialog which then screwed up my entire mime database, the file i'm talking about has the type "Unknown" and the extension ".gba" |
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| 19:14.23 | SerpensV | you can set it in kcontrol |
| 19:14.33 | Pinchiukas | how do I NOT compile kaboodle and kaudiocreator while compiling kde? this is on gentoo |
| 19:14.48 | RivaeAerya | SerpensV: how? |
| 19:14.55 | SerpensV | wait a moment |
| 19:14.59 | RivaeAerya | SerpensV: alright |
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| 19:15.22 | thomas | Sry, my desktop froze |
| 19:15.53 | Earthnail_ | can somebody kick Earthnail? It's me.. |
| 19:16.01 | Earthnail_ | or well, I'll just be patient |
| 19:16.47 | RivaeAerya | Earthnail_: Have you registered the nick? |
| 19:16.51 | Earthnail_ | however, I couln't read anything after having written "well, I only have a "kontact" package" |
| 19:16.54 | Earthnail_ | RivaeAerya: nope |
| 19:17.07 | RivaeAerya | Earthnail_: then indeed you should be patient |
| 19:17.28 | Earthnail_ | RivaeAerya: Earthnail == Earthnail_, my desktop just froze and I hat to hit the reset button |
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| 19:17.52 | RivaeAerya | Earthnail_: You can remove it by going into the control center, selecting you don't want the session to save every time you leave but that you want to manually save the session, and then set the desktop up the way you want it, for example remove korganiser from the system tray |
| 19:18.10 | RivaeAerya | ("Session manager" section) |
| 19:18.18 | Earthnail_ | RivaeAerya: that doesn't help. Everytime I start up kontact, KOrganizer starts aswell |
| 19:18.34 | RivaeAerya | Earthnail_: Let me check |
| 19:18.46 | Earthnail_ | I can close KOrganizer while Kontact is running, no problem. But then I quit Kontact, restart it and KOrganizer opens up again |
| 19:18.54 | RivaeAerya | Earthnail_: Right click the systray icon |
| 19:18.58 | Earthnail_ | no need to relogin inbetween |
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| 19:18.58 | RivaeAerya | and disable the checkmarks |
| 19:19.08 | Earthnail_ | everything disabled |
| 19:19.18 | SerpensV | RivaeAerya:I don't have English settings in KDE now, but it's something like "KDE components" and then "File associations" |
| 19:19.45 | RivaeAerya | SerpensV: i know, but my file type is not listed. it is "Unknown" (literally "Type: Unknown"_) |
| 19:20.04 | RivaeAerya | Earthnail_: Maybe somewhere in Kontact's config dialogs |
| 19:20.12 | SerpensV | RivaeAerya:So I don't know now |
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| 19:20.50 | RivaeAerya | SerpensV: alright. Thanks for the help, anyways. |
| 19:21.26 | RivaeAerya | i'll just have to note the command and open it with that command everytmime |
| 19:21.27 | RivaeAerya | time* |
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| 19:22.33 | Earthnail_ | RivaeAerya: I couldn't find anything. I've got KMail, Akregator and KAdressbook plugins activated. Starting each of those three standalone doesn't start KOrganizer |
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| 19:24.09 | SerpensV | there is a "dirty" way, you need to remove some file, I don't remember, but probably in /usr/share/applications |
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| 19:35.25 | Ace2016 | Hi all my site is broken in konqueror but ok in opera/firefox/internet explorer, its fully valid xhtml and css, can someone help? |
| 19:35.51 | Ace2016 | is this the right place? |
| 19:36.11 | Ace2016 | xhtml traditional |
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| 19:38.54 | deitarion | does Konqueror have a way to mark a site (eg "localhost.localdomain") as trusted so I can use <img src="file:///..." /> in a custom app with a web-based UI? |
| 19:39.39 | deitarion | I'd really rather not have to proxy requests for image files through my CGI script. |
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| 19:40.41 | deitarion | For those who don't know, Konqueror refuses to load file:/// URLs embedded by http:// pages for security reasons. |
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| 19:51.04 | Ace2016 | This is my url http://ace2016.hostistry.com/index.php/ |
| 19:51.15 | Ace2016 | why does it look broken in konqueror |
| 19:51.35 | Ace2016 | it ist ok in opera/firefox/internet explorer, its fully valid xhtml and css, can someone help? |
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| 19:54.47 | chelovekpaket | Ace2016: terrble markup. |
| 19:55.03 | Ace2016 | :O |
| 19:55.44 | swanfl | I don't see the problem |
| 19:55.48 | chelovekpaket | Ace2016: tables, divs, inline css... |
| 19:55.55 | Ace2016 | and? |
| 19:55.55 | swanfl | I have it open in Konq and firefox |
| 19:56.28 | chelovekpaket | Ace2016: just rewrite it from scratch :) It should help. |
| 19:56.44 | Ace2016 | swanfl: don't see the get opera icon floating in the right? |
| 19:56.46 | chelovekpaket | swanfl: there is a trouble with red sign "Opera 9" |
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| 19:57.18 | swanfl | I see it both in konq and firefox |
| 19:57.35 | chelovekpaket | swanfl: but it works fine in opera. |
| 19:58.03 | swanfl | well it is off to the right in both browsers if that's what you mean |
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| 19:58.41 | chelovekpaket | Ace2016: Did you tried in most popular/buggy browser? |
| 19:59.10 | Ace2016 | yea worked fine in IE6 and Opera and Firefox |
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| 20:00.24 | Ace2016 | Woot fixed it :D |
| 20:00.55 | Ace2016 | i was wondering why it wasn't fixing itself, then i realised i used wp-cache |
| 20:02.19 | meduxa | http://suplementos.laopinion.es/entrega_doc.php?id_doc=1489 |
| 20:02.22 | meduxa | hi guys |
| 20:02.40 | meduxa | this is an article published in a Canary Island newspaper |
| 20:02.53 | meduxa | about aKademy last sunday |
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| 20:03.41 | meduxa | it is in spanish |
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| 20:07.50 | tramai | Hello? |
| 20:07.54 | Lars_G | Say, what's the closest thing to picasa in kde? |
| 20:08.13 | apokryphos | digikam |
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| 20:15.22 | bipolar | Is there a way to tell kwin to ignore focus requests for a window? |
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| 20:18.09 | srbaker | folks |
| 20:18.17 | srbaker | i have a wince device that i want to sync with kontact |
| 20:18.22 | srbaker | anyone know where i can find information on doing this? |
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| 20:52.58 | Sho_ | markey: You around? :) |
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| 20:57.23 | neal_ | how do i change the sessions startup programs? |
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| 21:08.43 | markey | Sho_: pong |
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| 21:15.04 | Sho_ | markey: If I wanted Amarok to dynamically add a random album to the collection, and a new one after it has finishing playing the first, how would I go about it? |
| 21:15.39 | markey | uh sorry, I really don't have much clue about these things |
| 21:15.45 | markey | I suppose you need to use a smart playlist |
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| 21:37.32 | l3on | hi all... |
| 21:37.58 | nielx | hey, sorry for the offtopic question, but is there anyone who writes Swedish (preferably from Sweden) who could help me with translating a short message? |
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| 21:51.04 | Digital_Pioneer | Hey. My KDE seems to have no hardware/media/whatever detection. |
| 21:51.21 | Digital_Pioneer | I remember the good ol' days when I put in a CD and KDE asks me what I want to do... Now it does absolutely nothing. |
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| 21:55.53 | FreshPrince | how can i set Beryl to start up prog's in kde? |
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| 21:58.47 | dirkson | Heyo all! I'm really /not/ trying to be troll, but I don't know where else to ask: What sort of advantages does KDE have over my current favorite, xfce4? I'm considering testing it out, but that means 4-5 hours of recompiling, which would be a shame if I end up not liking it |
| 21:59.40 | MinceR | for example, the panel works better, especially when it's vertical |
| 22:00.26 | pinotree | dirkson: well, nobody could give you a really fair answer - the best would always be test both and try yourself which one is the best _for you_ |
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| 22:01.04 | dirkson | pinotree, Aye, I know... But re-compiling half the system! *winge, cry, moan* |
| 22:01.13 | pinotree | "recompiling"? |
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| 22:01.47 | dirkson | I'm using gentoo. I assume to /really/ get the full affect of kde, I'd need to recompile a lot of programs with kde and qt4 support. |
| 22:01.53 | dirkson | (qt4 is a kde thing, no?) |
| 22:01.56 | pinotree | qt4 has nothing to do |
| 22:02.01 | dirkson | Oh! *googles* |
| 22:02.07 | pinotree | kde3 uses qt3, and _only_ qt3 |
| 22:02.15 | pinotree | kde4 will use qt4, and _only_ qt4 |
| 22:02.28 | dirkson | Ahhh, gotcha. |
| 22:02.37 | dirkson | I assume kde4 is not ready for mass consumption. |
| 22:06.21 | dirkson | And anyway, I'd still need to re-compile for qt3. I haven't used it at all, when there's been an option |
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| 22:24.06 | FreshPrince | anybody here? |
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| 22:25.21 | wolsni | nope |
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| 22:32.10 | Digital_Pioneer | OK, I asked my question a while ago in here, but since I have no clue if anyone saw it (my connection is REALLY flaky) I'll repeat. |
| 22:32.44 | Digital_Pioneer | My KDE (3.5.7, Archlinux/KDEmod) has no media detection whatsoever. |
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| 22:33.13 | Digital_Pioneer | It's _supposed_ to react when I plug a usb key or put in a CD, etc. but it's not doing anything. |
| 22:35.21 | FreshPrince | wolsni, :P |
| 22:35.35 | FreshPrince | how can i set Beryl at the start up prog's |
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| 22:35.52 | FreshPrince | i wanna have it to the start up section |
| 22:35.52 | Endoplazmik | yaa işte öle .. |
| 22:36.30 | wolsni | FreshPrince: if you want to use an alternate window manager, set the KDEWM environment variable appropriately |
| 22:36.31 | Endoplazmik | tammamsss |
| 22:37.22 | wolsni | you can put a script that sets the variable in ~/.kde/env IIRC |
| 22:37.42 | pinotree | Endoplazmik: the language of this channel is english |
| 22:37.43 | Endoplazmik | canımı sıkma ya benimde offff bak sıkıldım |
| 22:37.54 | FreshPrince | wolsni, has KDE a start up File? |
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| 22:37.59 | l3on | hi all |
| 22:38.01 | Przemcio78 | is it wise to uninstall konqueror on kde 3.5.x? |
| 22:38.02 | AmyRose | What's the name of the icon that provides Konqueror's throbber? |
| 22:38.04 | Endoplazmik | yaa işte öle .. |
| 22:38.05 | Endoplazmik | aaa şuna bak offf çekiyo |
| 22:38.11 | pinotree | Endoplazmik: ENGLISH |
| 22:38.19 | Digital_Pioneer | Przemcio78: This isn't winblows. |
| 22:38.24 | l3on | I think there's a GRAVE bug in k3b... it freezes my sistem foring me to reboot manually... |
| 22:38.26 | Endoplazmik | yaa işte öle .. |
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| 22:38.32 | wolsni | Przemcio78: I don't think it will cause any problems but why would you want to? |
| 22:38.35 | l3on | I'm on debian :( |
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| 22:38.59 | AmyRose | pinotree: Nice kick message =) |
| 22:39.08 | l3on | debian testing... k3b version is 1.0.2 |
| 22:39.09 | Przemcio78 | wolsni: i want to replace it with dolphin |
| 22:39.16 | Endoplazmik | yaa işte öle .. |
| 22:39.29 | wolsni | Przemcio78: you can do that without removing konqueror |
| 22:39.39 | AmyRose | Endoplazmik: pinotree said you need to type in English |
| 22:39.42 | pinotree | Przemcio78: removing konqueror is not a wise solution |
| 22:39.52 | Przemcio78 | wolsni: i don't need konqueror as a browser and i prefer dolphin as a file manager |
| 22:40.11 | wolsni | Przemcio78: set the default application for the inode/directory mimetype to the file browser you want |
| 22:40.12 | Endoplazmik | yaa işte öle .. |
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| 22:41.40 | pinotree | AmyRose: the bad thing is that i don't understand if he's kidding us, or just speaking some weird language with no clue about english |
| 22:42.49 | Endoplazmik | when i was a child |
| 22:43.34 | pinotree | Endoplazmik: ah! so you speak english? |
| 22:44.33 | Endoplazmik | pinotree: i speas english catir catir |
| 22:44.45 | pinotree | no problem |
| 22:44.57 | pinotree | just speak english :) |
| 22:45.03 | Endoplazmik | what's ur problem man |
| 22:45.11 | Endoplazmik | huh! |
| 22:45.21 | Endoplazmik | English? |
| 22:45.28 | pinotree | yep |
| 22:45.41 | Endoplazmik | what is english? |
| 22:45.53 | pinotree | this language you are using to talk with me |
| 22:46.17 | Endoplazmik | Language huh |
| 22:46.49 | Endoplazmik | i need kde immediate |
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| 22:48.27 | Endoplazmik | just like a kde |
| 22:49.36 | pinotree | heh |
| 22:49.52 | pinotree | (oops, wrong chat) |
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| 22:50.44 | Endoplazmik | where is right chat? |
| 22:51.05 | Endoplazmik | http://www.jsalinc.com/images/products/WinEnt.jpg |
| 22:51.15 | pinotree | no no, my "heh" was wrong |
| 22:51.25 | pinotree | hm, and? |
| 22:51.32 | wolsni | Endoplazmik: are you having problems installing KDE? |
| 22:51.43 | Endoplazmik | i cant it |
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| 22:52.03 | Endoplazmik | how can i do |
| 22:52.21 | wolsni | it's different depending on your operating system? |
| 22:52.21 | Endoplazmik | yaa işte öle .. |
| 22:52.53 | wolsni | what distribution are you using (ubuntu, fedora, gentoo, etc) |
| 22:52.54 | Endoplazmik | yaa işte öle .. |
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| 22:53.56 | Endoplazmik | pardus |
| 22:54.14 | Endoplazmik | dismarch dismarch away |
| 22:54.23 | Shadowriver | wot? :p |
| 22:54.25 | AmyRose | pinotree: I don't know =P |
| 22:54.45 | Endoplazmik | AmyRose: How are you? |
| 22:55.11 | wolsni | Endoplazmik: looks like you should head to #pardus-devel then |
| 22:55.53 | Endoplazmik | wolsni : Go away from here |
| 22:55.56 | Endoplazmik | run! |
| 22:56.23 | Endoplazmik | Cold in the night my mind is freezing |
| 22:56.42 | Endoplazmik | can you understand me? |
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| 23:07.39 | FreshPrince | [ Kernel: 2.6.21-ARCH Distro: Arch Linux Duke. ] [ CPU: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3500+ - 2200.346 ] [ Mem U/T: 0252/1010 MB ] [ Disk Space F/T: 120.1204 GB/193.1 GB ] [ Video Card: nVidia GeForce 7600 GT ] [ Uptime: 7:39 Load: 0.32 - 0.20 - 0.09 Procs: 72/15315 ] [ Amarok Playing : Grits - ] |
| 23:07.44 | FreshPrince | ;D |
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| 23:12.27 | MinceR | yo home to bel-air |
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| 23:15.16 | AmyRose | (like Uncle Phil) WILL!!! |
| 23:15.19 | AmyRose | :P |
| 23:15.33 | FreshPrince | hehe |
| 23:15.34 | FreshPrince | :) |
| 23:15.37 | FreshPrince | carlton! |
| 23:15.38 | FreshPrince | :P |
| 23:15.58 | FreshPrince | ehm.. how can i set beryl as startup application? |
| 23:16.14 | FreshPrince | where can i write startup prog's is there a file in kde? |
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| 23:16.52 | AmyRose | FreshPrince: Go to ~/.kde/Autostart |
| 23:17.02 | AmyRose | and create a link to application there or drag it from the menu |
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| 23:19.14 | FreshPrince | should i type "beryl-manager" in Autostart ? |
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| 23:21.46 | wolsni | FreshPrince: you need to replace kwin with beryl by setting $KDEWM |
| 23:24.14 | FreshPrince | wolsni, but where? :( sry i dont understand.. :((( |
| 23:26.00 | wolsni | FreshPrince: add a script in ~/.kde/env/beryl.sh that does this: export KDEWM=$(which beryl) |
| 23:26.14 | wolsni | then log out and back in |
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| 23:36.44 | AmyRose | wolsni: I just used beryl-manager |
| 23:37.16 | wolsni | for me, setting beryl-manager to autostart didn't do it |
| 23:37.17 | AmyRose | I liked that if Beryl crashed it would change to kwin |
| 23:37.34 | wolsni | but i didn't look into it because i don't care that much about beryl |
| 23:37.35 | AmyRose | I prefer to use kwin now though |
| 23:37.41 | AmyRose | hahaha |
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| 23:37.59 | AmyRose | Beryl isn't as good at managing windows as kwin, in my opinion |
| 23:38.17 | wolsni | i don't think it's just your opinion |
| 23:38.41 | AmyRose | oh |
| 23:39.02 | AmyRose | I was wondering though... Is there an easy way to get rid of the borders on Wine's tooltips? |
| 23:39.27 | FreshPrince | http://img382.imageshack.us/img382/1040/snapshot1zo5.png |
| 23:39.28 | FreshPrince | hehe |
| 23:39.28 | FreshPrince | :D |
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| 23:40.39 | AmyRose | FreshPrince: Konversation > Xchat :P |
| 23:41.14 | FreshPrince | AmyRose, yeah :P |
| 23:41.17 | FreshPrince | i use xchat :) |
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| 23:41.22 | AmyRose | uh... |
| 23:41.30 | FreshPrince | well that was only a screenshot.. |
| 23:41.36 | AmyRose | I meant Konversation is better than xchat :P |
| 23:41.39 | FreshPrince | photoshooting |
| 23:41.40 | FreshPrince | haha:D |
| 23:41.47 | FreshPrince | oh |
| 23:41.49 | FreshPrince | lol |
| 23:41.53 | FreshPrince | AmyRose, |
| 23:41.56 | wolsni | FreshPrince: way to use a 3d accelerated desktop to show a pageful of text in one window :P |
| 23:42.00 | FreshPrince | Xchat > Konversation |
| 23:42.01 | FreshPrince | :P |
| 23:42.22 | AmyRose | wolsni: hahaha |
| 23:42.23 | FreshPrince | wolsni, psht! |
| 23:42.24 | FreshPrince | :P |
| 23:42.38 | AmyRose | FreshPrince: Just hit Ctrl+Alt+F1 :P |
| 23:42.47 | AmyRose | Then it will be even faster! :O |
| 23:42.58 | FreshPrince | hrhr |
| 23:44.09 | AmyRose | Hmm |
| 23:44.16 | AmyRose | why does that not work in Kopete? |
| 23:44.34 | AmyRose | It doesn't work in Kopete when I'm playing tracker modules |
| 23:44.44 | wolsni | weird |
| 23:44.50 | AmyRose | yeah, it says "Unknown" |
| 23:45.46 | wolsni | did you report the bug? |
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| 23:46.01 | wolsni | probably a kopete problem if it works in konversation |
| 23:46.02 | AmyRose | I was asking about it because I don't like making duplicate reports |
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