| 00:00.19 | DaSkreech | Which is? |
| 00:01.36 | Tricky4 | DaSkreech: well it wont connect anymore |
| 00:01.55 | Tricky4 | it starts |
| 00:02.25 | Tricky4 | but when i want to connect it does nothing normaly the little butterfly or flower starts moving when i want to connect but now nothings starts its just grey |
| 00:02.49 | DaSkreech | Umm |
| 00:02.49 | DaSkreech | ok |
| 00:02.55 | DaSkreech | Are you on the net :) |
| 00:03.00 | DaSkreech | Ok Stupid questions aside |
| 00:03.03 | Tricky4 | ahahah |
| 00:03.06 | Tricky4 | nevermind |
| 00:03.13 | DaSkreech | Ha ha |
| 00:03.17 | DaSkreech | I win! |
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| 00:03.50 | Tricky4 | any idea's how to solve this |
| 00:04.08 | Tricky4 | it all began when i restarted the x server when my desktop was still running |
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| 00:06.37 | Tricky4 | DaSkreech: ?? any idea's |
| 00:07.47 | GionnyBoss | Tricky4, restarting x should not be a problem at all... how long are you having this problem? |
| 00:07.53 | DaSkreech | Tricky4: You want a quick fix or a complete fix ? |
| 00:08.20 | GionnyBoss | it could just be a server down |
| 00:09.15 | Tricky4 | no because i can login with amsn and kmess |
| 00:09.28 | Tricky4 | i want a quck fix, and maybe then a complete fix |
| 00:09.37 | Tricky4 | i hate amsn and mess i love kopete |
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| 00:12.25 | Tricky4 | DaSkreech: what are you sugesting |
| 00:13.16 | DaSkreech | mv the .kde/share/apps/kopete folder to a backup and reopen kopete |
| 00:14.24 | Tricky4 | done |
| 00:14.29 | Tricky4 | but nothing changed |
| 00:14.47 | Tricky4 | thats the strange thing, i already done that and removed the kopeterc file |
| 00:14.59 | Tricky4 | but still no luck |
| 00:15.03 | neddy | does kopete do yahoo? |
| 00:15.09 | Tricky4 | yes it does neddy |
| 00:15.13 | neddy | yay! |
| 00:15.24 | neddy | I'm using gaim/pidgin, and I don't like it that much |
| 00:15.38 | neddy | what is kmess? |
| 00:16.14 | DaSkreech | kmessenger |
| 00:16.31 | DaSkreech | neddy: It does it better than Gaim does |
| 00:16.45 | neddy | kmess is also part of kde? |
| 00:17.22 | Tricky4 | but kmess is only for msn |
| 00:17.27 | neddy | ah |
| 00:17.35 | neddy | never mind that |
| 00:20.48 | DaSkreech | Tricky4: open it from the command line see if it's tossing errors |
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| 00:22.55 | SamuraiDio | why my superkaramba themes wiped out? |
| 00:23.20 | Tricky4 | that does not matter because when you open kopete from the command line it does not give error messages to the commandline it gives the prompt back |
| 00:23.59 | Tricky4 | i think i am out off options |
| 00:24.02 | Tricky4 | but one |
| 00:25.21 | SamuraiDio | i started kde and my superkaramba themes vanished |
| 00:25.40 | SamuraiDio | and all the files are under ~/.superkaramba |
| 00:26.16 | Tricky4 | wich does not help either, i thought i run kopete as a different user but no luck there DaSkreech |
| 00:26.28 | DaSkreech | Oh Serious? |
| 00:26.39 | DaSkreech | That sounds a lot more like network issues then |
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| 00:27.56 | Tricky4 | but why is kmess and amsn still working then |
| 00:28.35 | Tricky4 | let me destroy this user and create a new one and log in |
| 00:28.36 | Tricky4 | brb |
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| 00:33.17 | DaSkreech | Sure hope that he didn't delete the user folder |
| 00:37.15 | neddy | thanks for the tip on kopete - seems nice so far |
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| 00:37.41 | stinger_au | yo |
| 00:38.06 | stinger_au | anyone know how to add the print command to right click - actions ? |
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| 00:48.39 | pcbshelp | stinger_au: u have the command already? |
| 00:49.42 | pcbshelp | and which right click menu u want to adjust? theres different right clicks, example in firefox, in konversation, in desktop etc. |
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| 01:03.10 | stinger_au | pcbshelp: nope its not there |
| 01:04.15 | bluekb | Where would I find kmail errors? xsession errors file? |
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| 01:05.44 | sylvisj | can someone tell me where KDE stores its desktop config info? I need to change the resolution it's trying to use. |
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| 01:05.58 | sylvisj | KDE menu not accessible due to KDE viewporting my desktop to 640x480 for some reason |
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| 01:06.59 | bluekb | sylvisj, it's probably not kde--more likely your xorg.conf file. But I do think kde has a way to access those values for you... |
| 01:08.20 | sylvisj | bluekb: , my xorg.conf is fine. |
| 01:08.29 | sylvisj | Doing a good 'ole xinit gives me a fully functional X |
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| 01:09.37 | CVirus | I had that option before in KDE shipping with a certain distro .. where I could rename a number of files at a time ... how can I make this option available ? |
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| 01:13.13 | e-uoaphys | hey guys |
| 01:13.26 | e-uoaphys | I Was thinking, you know how there are enthusiast sites about windows xp or windows vista |
| 01:13.32 | e-uoaphys | like blackviper.com |
| 01:13.40 | e-uoaphys | ppl sit around all day posting tweaks n crap like that |
| 01:13.46 | e-uoaphys | we need a site like that for kubuntu |
| 01:14.10 | CVirus | the answer to my question is krename .. in case any one is interested http://www.krename.net/ |
| 01:14.40 | chealer | e-uoaphys: this is #kde |
| 01:16.41 | pcbshelp | need a site like that for freebsd :P |
| 01:19.28 | chealer | sylvisj: did you check ~/.kde/share/config/kcmdisplayrc ? |
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| 01:23.01 | Mrrrr | there are nix enthusiast sites out there :P |
| 01:23.01 | Mrrrr | the guys that do the gfx driver roundups... |
| 01:23.01 | Mrrrr | they're pretty good |
| 01:25.59 | Mrrrr | http://www.phoronix.com/ |
| 01:29.52 | FreshPrince | gn @ all |
| 01:31.05 | vbgunz | are there any benefits what-so-ever in swapping out kwin for openbox? |
| 01:32.12 | vbgunz | CVirus: is krename the best renamer out there? is it chock full of options? |
| 01:32.37 | CVirus | vbgunz: it's the only KDE one I found so far |
| 01:32.47 | vbgunz | ahh |
| 01:33.22 | vbgunz | I am stocking up on a bunch of photos, would like to rename them based on the exif data... heh, will check it out |
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| 01:33.42 | CVirus | vbgunz: it's full of options |
| 01:34.03 | vbgunz | sweet, if it handles exif, I can only hope it rocks |
| 01:36.19 | vbgunz | JPEG-EXIF-Info might be it |
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| 01:39.46 | vbgunz | hmm, not sure how to get the plugin, I apt-get 3.0.13 on Kubuntu and don't see it |
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| 02:15.58 | smith_ | hi, is there a way to disable icons in kde menus, like kmenu? I mean that there would be only text, without icons beside? thanks |
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| 04:21.50 | *** topic/#kde is KDE 3.5.7 is out! See www.kde.org | KDE FAQ: http://docs.kde.org/stable/en/kdebase/faq/ | Please don't flood the channel, use a paste service: http://rafb.net/paste | Distro related questions in your distro channel please | Please state your distribution and KDE version when asking questions | Don't delete ~/.kde ! |
| 04:24.21 | fage | leider nicht...aber bin dran |
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| 04:30.21 | soduer_ | boa krass we ätzend... ich hab mir mein kde grade so schön eingerichtet, da gibts das beste icon theme natürlich nur für gnome... |
| 04:32.29 | fage | nene das kriegt man hin |
| 04:32.34 | fage | kein problem |
| 04:32.40 | arizalord | como actualizo? |
| 04:32.40 | fage | ich fummel grad schon dran rum |
| 04:33.02 | fage | si ? no ? |
| 04:33.29 | arizalord | como se actualiza esta cosa? |
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| 04:33.37 | soduer_ | !spanish | arizalord |
| 04:33.45 | fage | was sagt der ? |
| 04:33.55 | soduer_ | !es | arizalord |
| 04:33.58 | fage | como=wie |
| 04:34.13 | soduer_ | !spanisch | arizalord |
| 04:34.19 | arizalord | ah? |
| 04:34.19 | soduer_ | scheiß bot |
| 04:34.20 | fage | actualiza=aktualisieren ist gemacht ? |
| 04:34.21 | arizalord | no entiendo! |
| 04:34.23 | arizalord | XD |
| 04:34.30 | arizalord | si eso!! |
| 04:34.33 | fage | wie wird aktualisiert |
| 04:34.38 | fage | fragt er |
| 04:34.41 | arizalord | si eso! |
| 04:34.42 | arizalord | XD |
| 04:34.46 | fage | actualiza KDE ? |
| 04:34.49 | soduer_ | sudo apt-get update | sudo apt-get upgrade |
| 04:35.29 | arizalord | uy thx!! |
| 04:35.44 | fage | nada problem, haha |
| 04:36.46 | CPrgmSwR2 | http://www.stencyl.com/about/ |
| 04:36.50 | CPrgmSwR2 | Has anyone checked this out |
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| 04:37.29 | arizalord | :S |
| 04:37.40 | arizalord | command not found! |
| 04:37.58 | CPrgmSwR2 | arizalord: what distro? |
| 04:38.08 | arizalord | sabayo 3.3 con kde |
| 04:38.21 | joseph | Can anybody help me with why in Fedora 7 when I start Beryl all I get is a White screen with a mouse? |
| 04:38.27 | CPrgmSwR2 | arizalord: does emerge work |
| 04:38.43 | arizalord | tipeo emerge work? |
| 04:39.05 | CPrgmSwR2 | # emerge --update --newuse --deep update |
| 04:39.14 | arizalord | thx! voy a probar! |
| 04:39.47 | CPrgmSwR2 | sabayo is a gentoo system |
| 04:39.55 | CPrgmSwR2 | not a ubuntu system |
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| 04:52.38 | jbh | hey, does anyone wanna give me a hand w/ beryl? |
| 04:55.26 | fage | soduer_: noch da ? |
| 04:55.48 | fage | jbh i can try to |
| 04:55.58 | fage | whats the problem ? |
| 04:56.15 | soduer_ | ja |
| 04:56.47 | fage | das wird erstmal ne heidenarbeit |
| 04:57.03 | fage | die ganzen icons unzubenennen |
| 04:57.13 | soduer_ | oa nö |
| 04:57.16 | soduer_ | aber ich will das haben ^^ |
| 04:57.19 | soduer_ | grrr |
| 04:57.21 | fage | aber eigentlich kein problem |
| 04:57.25 | soduer_ | boa krass |
| 04:57.26 | fage | kostet halt zeit |
| 04:57.36 | fage | hast du das zeug mal entzipped ? |
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| 04:57.46 | soduer_ | nö |
| 04:58.11 | fage | wenn du die zeit hast dir das hinzudeichseln...kostet dich wenn du effizient arbeitest vielleicht ne halbe stunde |
| 04:58.17 | fage | bis stunde |
| 04:58.28 | fage | ich erklär dir gerne wies geht |
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| 04:58.57 | fage | hast du lust ? |
| 04:59.08 | soduer_ | joa... ich entpack grad mal |
| 04:59.32 | fage | lad dir am besten parallel mal ein gültiges KDe theme runter |
| 04:59.52 | soduer_ | Ein icon theme? |
| 05:00.24 | fage | ja |
| 05:00.45 | fage | die grobe vorgehensweise ist die : |
| 05:01.06 | soduer_ | die icons eines themes mit den icons zu ersetzen |
| 05:01.17 | fage | du entzippst amora, entzippst das KDE theme (vorher testen obs geht !!!). ja genau |
| 05:01.18 | soduer_ | iss schon klar aber das mir jetzt doch zu viel aufwand# |
| 05:01.24 | fage | hehe |
| 05:01.29 | fage | ne |
| 05:01.34 | soduer_ | ja nö... das muss auch anders gehen |
| 05:01.35 | fage | du musst die nicht ersetzen |
| 05:01.48 | fage | sondern einfach umbenennen |
| 05:01.49 | ner0x | k3b dvd backup project name? ANyone know it? |
| 05:02.10 | fage | naja gut wenn du jedes icon umbenennst...kommt vielleicht aufs gleiche raus.. |
| 05:03.01 | soduer_ | ja wien dan? |
| 05:04.23 | fage | du schaust dir an wie die iconnames bei dem KDEtheme sind |
| 05:05.08 | fage | zB folder_open.png folder_closed.png suchst die passenden icons in dem amora gnome und nennst die nach den KDE namen |
| 05:05.42 | fage | die heissen bei amora dann zB folder_blah_op.png -> folder_open.png |
| 05:05.47 | soduer_ | ja eben, ja nee... |
| 05:05.53 | soduer_ | das sind echt ne menge icons |
| 05:05.53 | fage | wenn du alle pärchen gefunden hast... |
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| 05:06.48 | Daisuke_Ido | !de | FFS guys |
| 05:07.22 | Daisuke_Ido | wrong channel, i'm going to go hang my head in shame now... |
| 05:07.25 | fage | is there a known way to convert a GNome theme to KDE ? |
| 05:07.38 | fage | not if you know the answer ! |
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| 05:07.57 | fage | soduer_: dafür muss es dochn tool geben |
| 05:08.06 | fage | das ist doch immer dasselbe schema |
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| 05:20.13 | fage | _soduer : wenn du das schaffst, kannst du mir das schicken plz ? =D |
| 05:20.22 | fage | äh soduer_ |
| 05:20.46 | fage | irgendneaddy@gmx.net - vielen Dank ;D |
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| 05:44.42 | HanzZ | hi i have one question... is legal that there are for example copyrighted icons on kde-look? |
| 05:45.20 | HanzZ | i wanto to use it in my app like kopete does (=> download them directly from my server to the application), but i don't know, if it is legal.. |
| 05:45.32 | HanzZ | how kde-look solves this problem? |
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| 06:52.31 | Ramiel | hi there |
| 06:53.29 | hacosta | hi |
| 06:55.14 | Ramiel | i just have a quick question about KDE taskbar, since i didn't find out myself |
| 06:57.01 | Ramiel | how do you disable the bubble that appears when you hover the mouse on an application located in the taskbar ? |
| 06:58.02 | hacosta | under appearance |
| 06:58.20 | hacosta | kcontrol->desktop->panels |
| 06:58.36 | hacosta | aooearance tab |
| 06:59.02 | Ramiel | thank you very much ! |
| 06:59.37 | hacosta | np |
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| 07:12.29 | AbsintheSyringe | how do I quickly switch from desktop1 to desktop4? no mouse |
| 07:13.23 | Daisuke_Ido | AbsintheSyringe: ctrl-tab? |
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| 07:13.49 | AbsintheSyringe | Daisuke_Ido, ah yes thanks ;) |
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| 07:14.53 | phoenixz | I have (many times) that when I open a mail directory in kmail that I have thi s blue screen with "Please wait".. and I wait.. and wait.. nothing happens! Why is this, and how do I fix this? |
| 07:14.59 | _Pol_ | guys, I emerged kde on 2 computers, on the first one I have the google searchbar in konqueror and nothing on the other one... I have compiled the same packages and the same options and use flag... I have looked in the toolbar and I really have something different... what are the packages to emerge to have it ? (I'm using gentoo and kde 3.5.7) |
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| 07:19.48 | Richlv | _Pol_, i'd guess that is a configuration setting somewhere |
| 07:20.02 | _Pol_ | Richlv: ?? |
| 07:20.03 | _Pol_ | where ? |
| 07:20.35 | hacosta | _Pol_: #gentoo-kde |
| 07:20.41 | Richlv | somewhere in ~/.kde :) |
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| 07:20.52 | Richlv | _Pol_, try with a new user on both systems and compare results |
| 07:21.07 | _Pol_ | ok I do it.... |
| 07:21.09 | _Pol_ | now |
| 07:22.57 | _Pol_ | nothing I just tried to remove the .kde files from the root user, relogged in, the wizard appeared and no google searchbar... |
| 07:23.00 | _Pol_ | it's weird... |
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| 07:27.09 | _Pol_ | I dont even know what are the related files to find to wich packages they belong so I can emerge it again... |
| 07:27.39 | shiznix | _Pol_: in Konqueror, top menu 'Settings > Configure Extensions' |
| 07:27.54 | _Pol_ | yes of course .... or RMB on the toolbar |
| 07:27.57 | _Pol_ | I tried all of that |
| 07:28.13 | _Pol_ | wait I take a screenie |
| 07:28.42 | shiznix | but if you don't have kdeaddons installed, google searchbar won't show there to be enabled/disabled (iirc) |
| 07:29.04 | _Pol_ | kdeaddons ? |
| 07:29.36 | _Pol_ | is it that package ? |
| 07:31.14 | _Pol_ | screenie: http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/9058/snapshot7ee7.jpg |
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| 07:34.50 | _Pol_ | screenie on the other computer...: http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/3199/snapshot92kw4.jpg |
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| 07:42.35 | hacosta | _Pol_: do you have kdeutils installed? |
| 07:42.55 | _Pol_ | letme check |
| 07:43.08 | hacosta | you want that google toolbar, right? |
| 07:43.20 | _Pol_ | yes |
| 07:43.28 | _Pol_ | it's in kdeutils or kdeaddons ? |
| 07:43.34 | hacosta | oh addons |
| 07:43.39 | _Pol_ | ok |
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| 07:44.08 | sjck | hi :) |
| 07:45.00 | Richlv | it seems that k3b 1.0.2 is replacing diacritic characters in audio cdtext with underscores - is there any way i can preserve them ? |
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| 07:46.12 | qupada | i doubt it |
| 07:46.19 | qupada | cd text is a nasty hack |
| 07:46.50 | qupada | A-Z 0-9 and underscore are probably the limit |
| 07:46.58 | qupada | and i'm not even sure about the numbers |
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| 07:48.35 | _Pol_ | it's working ;) |
| 07:48.54 | _Pol_ | I just reemerged kdeaddons :) |
| 07:49.19 | _Pol_ | thx all ! |
| 07:49.41 | Richlv | qupada, the thing is, previous versions did not replace those chars with underscores :) |
| 07:50.14 | Richlv | in current implementation, spaces, dashes, underscores and ampersand are definitely allowed, i would guess some more things |
| 07:50.21 | Richlv | but those underscores are nasty |
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| 07:50.59 | qupada | the question is did the accented characters actually work when you put the cd into a player, did it show up as a garbled mess, or was k3b just replacing them with underscores and NOT telling you, rather than actually advising you of the fact like it is now |
| 07:51.00 | Cocytus | I have auto-hide on my kde panel, but some windows seems to be placed on top of the panel preventing it from becoming visible (it does move up). I'm using beryl ATM, but it happens with kwin as well. Any hints? |
| 07:51.33 | stylish | anyone here know how to enable mouse over on kde application icons, so i can see what the icons are usxed for ? |
| 07:51.38 | qupada | Richlv: at the end of the day what got written to the disc is all that really matters |
| 07:52.09 | stylish | tooltips does seem to do the trick |
| 07:53.11 | stylish | anyone ??? |
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| 07:56.09 | Richlv | qupada, they definitely were not silently replaced with underscores |
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| 08:00.58 | yetifoot | does anyone know if the problems with flash in konq are solved now? i found this that tells me why, but i don't know enough to know if this is old news http://konqueror.kde.org/faq/#WhydoesKonquerorcrashoneverypagewithFlash |
| 08:03.12 | yetifoot | when i say solved now, i mean compared to 3.5.5 which i'm using |
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| 08:14.42 | lin00b | what are teh more popular kde based irc clients? |
| 08:15.06 | Fusselwurm | konversation. period. |
| 08:15.10 | yetifoot | lin00b, i don't like any of them, heh, i use xchat |
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| 08:15.57 | Vinay-blr | helloo room |
| 08:16.10 | lin00b | heh |
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| 08:16.32 | lin00b | well, i thought since i was using kde anyway, might as well try the whole package before deciding |
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| 08:17.46 | watson540 | Pinchiukas: hold down shft when you delete |
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| 08:21.09 | lin00b | just asking, is arts going or staying in kde4? |
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| 08:30.26 | bliss123 | hi |
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| 09:12.58 | Andrew`` | hi all.... I was here yesterday asking how to make konq my default browser. you said it was in kcontrol.. so thats what I did... I set konqbrowser as my default.. but when I click on links... FF still opens?? anyone help me as to this fix? |
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| 09:23.15 | Richlv | Andrew``, you click on a link where ? |
| 09:23.49 | Andrew`` | well how about one of the ones in the topic here |
| 09:24.06 | Andrew`` | say www.kde.org |
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| 09:26.34 | yetifoot | Andrew``, is it just in your irc client? maybe its a setting in the client |
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| 09:28.28 | Andrew`` | wow!!! thanks.. never thought about that |
| 09:28.31 | Andrew`` | sorry to bother you |
| 09:29.18 | Andrew`` | ok.. it opened a NEW konq.. I already have one open,, so I wish to have www.kde.org to open in a new WINDOW in the open konq? |
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| 09:29.41 | herbert | I would like to check for a bug on the kdm theme manager, where can I find the know issues and bugs of it? |
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| 09:29.48 | herbert | Or off kcontrol? |
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| 09:58.52 | herbert | How can I check what the Theme variable of the kdmrc file is. I.e. I could open the file and check the value, but that is not what I mean. I would leave this option from the file, and check what the default is. |
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| 10:01.08 | herbert | btw, I have an idea that wat is said to be the default value in the comment is not right. |
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| 10:29.12 | ErkiDerLoony | Hey guys! Where can I post a bug in kpdf? |
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| 10:47.40 | perlmonkey | hi guys |
| 10:48.14 | perlmonkey | I'm having a problem with kmail, it starts up and begins checking messages then always freezes/locks up |
| 10:49.08 | perlmonkey | kdecore (KAction): WARNING: KAction::plugAccel(): call to deprecated action. |
| 10:49.22 | perlmonkey | lots of stuff like that |
| 10:49.25 | perlmonkey | then finally: |
| 10:49.27 | perlmonkey | paul@kayak:~$ /bin/sh: crm: not found |
| 10:49.30 | perlmonkey | any ideas? |
| 10:49.47 | perlmonkey | kdecore (KAction): WARNING: KAction::plugAccel( kacc = 0x8175d50 ): KAccel object already contains an action name "display_message" |
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| 10:49.59 | perlmonkey | hi |
| 10:50.32 | perlmonkey | CyberSpy_ hi |
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| 10:52.44 | perlmonkey | dead channel? |
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| 10:54.01 | Cocytus | I have auto-hide on my kde panel, but some windows seems to be placed on top of the panel preventing it from becoming visible (it does move up). I'm using beryl ATM, but it happens with kwin as well. Any hints? |
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| 11:40.04 | DexterF | hi |
| 11:41.06 | DexterF | someone good with dhcp/dns? two fixed ips which cant ping the one dhcp machine and the dhcp machine cant ping the fixed ips - by names. by ip address - all fine. |
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| 11:50.06 | kernco | Is there a native KDE p2p app like Gnutella? |
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| 11:52.25 | Richlv | DexterF, doesn't sound like kde issue |
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| 11:53.57 | Richlv | is there a way to rotate pages in kpdf ? |
| 11:54.02 | Richlv | or maybe export them as images ? |
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| 12:00.54 | kernco | Richlv: You can't rotate in kpdf, and the only way to export is to take screenshots |
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| 12:02.17 | MinceR | you can select and copy with the right mouse button |
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| 12:03.05 | DexterF | Richlv: indeed. didn't know where else to ask |
| 12:03.29 | Richlv | MinceR, hmm. maybe as picture, but probably wouldn't be that good for scans... |
| 12:03.36 | Richlv | i'll probably try imagemagick or something, then :) |
| 12:03.43 | Richlv | rotation would be a welcome addition, though |
| 12:03.44 | GNU\colo | why not print the page rotated? |
| 12:04.51 | pinotree | Richlv: kpdf won't have the rotation, requires too much refactor for a stable release (that is frozen, too) |
| 12:05.06 | pinotree | Richlv: though, okular has that already from ages |
| 12:05.07 | Richlv | pinotree, oh, i was more like thinking about ocular having that :) |
| 12:05.11 | Richlv | aww |
| 12:05.14 | Richlv | sweet :) |
| 12:05.29 | MinceR | can okular be instructed to open a given file on a given page from the command line? |
| 12:05.37 | pinotree | yep |
| 12:05.41 | MinceR | cool |
| 12:05.55 | Richlv | GNU\colo, additional waste of resources ;) |
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| 12:35.56 | ilyak | Is there something in KDE for color selection and evaluation? |
| 12:37.03 | ilyak | Found that. |
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| 12:38.07 | vitamin | any idea why sometimes "control-d" stops working in the konsole? |
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| 12:41.51 | vitamin | heh looks like encoding was some-how changed (was still set to default). Selecting any one of them fixed it... |
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| 12:49.13 | xushi | am i missing anything here? In FF when i make a spelling mistake, the word becomes red and i right click on it, it shows me the possible correct spellings.. In Konq, the word becomes red, but that's about it.. It doesn;t show me suggestions of the correct spelling. I'm left to guess what it is.. What am i missing here ? |
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| 12:57.57 | AlexElliott | xushi: for me, you right click and do "check spelling" |
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| 12:58.30 | SatanClaus | heyho, i just installed kubuntu and I'm missing a whole lot of entries in my K-Menu even though all those apps seem to be installed... is there a nice way of "resetting" the menu? |
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| 12:59.12 | maki | where can i find the latest version of oxygen icons |
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| 12:59.36 | pinotree | for kde3? nowhere |
| 12:59.49 | SatanClaus | examples are: kcontrol, kmail (only kontact is in there), etc. |
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| 13:00.36 | maki | pinotree i find them before 2-3 month's in some svn trunk |
| 13:00.47 | maki | for the 3 branch |
| 13:00.51 | pinotree | maki: no |
| 13:01.04 | pinotree | oxygen is a freedesktop.org icon theme, not copatible with kde3 |
| 13:01.09 | pinotree | *compatible |
| 13:01.22 | maki | so that what i used is ... |
| 13:01.27 | maki | ? |
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| 13:01.37 | pinotree | and old copy |
| 13:02.29 | maki | i tried kde 4 alpha livecd |
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| 13:02.51 | maki | it's not usable but it's wery promissing |
| 13:03.20 | chx | is there a way to automatically put to the clipboard whatever I selected? |
| 13:03.52 | pinotree | chx: use klipper with the option to track the selection |
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| 13:05.25 | chx | pinotree: thanks for the tip but i just can't find such an option in Klipper.I am running 3.5.6 |
| 13:05.52 | pinotree | unckeck the "ignore the selection" option |
| 13:06.26 | chx | it's unchecked. never knew what that is |
| 13:06.50 | chx | hmmm |
| 13:06.52 | chx | now it works |
| 13:06.53 | chx | thanks! |
| 13:06.56 | pinotree | yw |
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| 13:22.04 | brokenthorn | Don't delete ~/.kde? |
| 13:22.06 | brokenthorn | Why? |
| 13:22.17 | brokenthorn | I have done it once, when I wanted a fresh startup |
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| 13:24.10 | pinotree | because it contans personal data? |
| 13:24.30 | pinotree | like addressbok entries, wallets, email settings, maybe emails as well? |
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| 13:25.08 | xushi | AlexElliott: the odd thing is, when i find a spelling mistake, right click -> spell check, I tell it to add that word to the dictionary (it's my name).. it looks like it does it, but it doesn't.. the word is still RED, |
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| 13:28.22 | tuxick | The file http://ftp.tiscali.nl/ubuntu-releases/dapper/ubuntu-6.06.1-server-i386.iso is a binary, saving it will result in a corrupt file. |
| 13:28.28 | tuxick | i hope that's a joke? |
| 13:28.36 | tuxick | download 500M and then tell me i can't save it? |
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| 13:28.48 | Edgeman-work | Some time ago my alt-tab stopped alt-tabbing through all windows and now only switches between tasks on the current monitor (dual monitor setup). Anyone know how to fix this? Running KDE 3.5.7, if I use beryl it's alt-tab sees all windows, just not KDE's (using beryl is slow and I get black windows after awhile, so this isn't a solution). |
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| 13:29.01 | Edgeman-work | tuxick: why did you open it in kate? (I think that's a kate message) |
| 13:29.17 | tuxick | no, konqueror |
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| 13:29.43 | tuxick | why would i open an iso in an editor? |
| 13:29.48 | Edgeman-work | did you click "open" instead of "save" ? |
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| 13:34.45 | tuxick | Edgeman-work: i just clicked on download |
| 13:34.48 | tuxick | like any user would |
| 13:36.14 | tuxick | it's a typical sourceforge-like redirect autodownload javascript thingie |
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| 13:39.48 | tuxick | .iso isn't associated with anything, maybe that's the problem? |
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| 13:47.46 | tuxick | it does mean i can't use konqueror to download this ubuntu image :) |
| 13:47.57 | tuxick | unless i first disable javascript |
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| 14:03.45 | Edgeman-work | tuxick: I believe sourforge also has a "click here if your download does not start" that you can right click save target as on. |
| 14:04.03 | Edgeman-work | tuxick: alternately there's a download manager called kget that works with konqueror that might help |
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| 14:05.43 | tuxick | no it's not sourceforge |
| 14:05.47 | tuxick | just a similar annoyance |
| 14:05.55 | tuxick | http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download |
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| 14:06.05 | tuxick | select a mirror and click download |
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| 14:06.30 | tuxick | and it'll autoscrewup |
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| 14:08.37 | tuxick | good old wget :) |
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| 14:12.12 | tuxman | tuxick: your nick makes my IRC client blink all the time you wrote :D (cause of the 'tux' word) |
| 14:12.32 | tuxick | tuxman: change nick! |
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| 14:12.54 | tuxick | i was forced to use this one because some bastard claimed my ircnet nick ;p |
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| 14:13.18 | tuxman | tuxick: I was not saying to change yours |
| 14:13.18 | tuxick | tuxman: but you could change the trigger i guess? |
| 14:13.32 | tuxick | tuxman: i was joking of course |
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| 14:15.17 | tuxman | tuxick: yeah, yeah I was only amused of finding a nick that makes my choose of word highlighting a crap cause it does not highlight only the right messages anymore :D |
| 14:15.25 | tuxman | tuxick: that's not a prob |
| 14:16.16 | tuxman | sometimes people refers to me like "tux" so I've choose to highlight that word instead of tuxman itself |
| 14:16.25 | tuxman | *I've choosen |
| 14:16.58 | Cocytus | I have auto-hide on my kde panel, but some windows seems to be placed on top of the panel preventing it from becoming visible (it does move up). I'm using beryl ATM, but it happens with kwin as well. Any hints? |
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| 14:17.22 | Baubal | Greetings :) I am hoping someone could point me in the right direction... I have a few machines with Kubuntu. LDAP authenticating. Trying to get same KDE Menu for all users. Kiosk Admin Tool is not working. (I am assuming because I am using autofs to nfs mount the home dirs). I edit'd /etc/profile with "cp -r /home/me/.kde/share /$USER", but this only works when a new user logs in the... |
| 14:17.23 | Baubal | ...second time. Any ideas? |
| 14:18.35 | Baubal | I looked at "KDE For Sys Admins" but didnt find anything useful |
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| 14:21.47 | Bushmills | g'day |
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| 14:23.40 | Bushmills | can i change the icon of a desktop object by scriptable command, rather than by interactive dialog? |
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| 14:24.58 | alesan | hi where do I set that maximized windows can be moved? I do not find it anymore... |
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| 14:31.07 | Bushmills | i'm doing a grep and sed job on the .desktop file of the object. any objections to this? |
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| 14:34.27 | gdiebel | where would I find the kde regular expression editor? |
| 14:34.42 | thiago | Bushmills: as long as you don't change the translations and then commit to Subversion. |
| 14:34.59 | thiago | gdiebel: it's part of kdeutils |
| 14:35.14 | Bushmills | thiago: nah, that's for dynamic use on my desktop only |
| 14:35.34 | thiago | Bushmills: then mind you that upgrading the packages will overwrite your changes. |
| 14:35.35 | gdiebel | thiago: what is the command called? is it even standalone? |
| 14:35.52 | thiago | gdiebel: kregexpeditor |
| 14:36.23 | Bushmills | thiago: no problem. no package knows about my personal desktop objects |
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| 14:47.45 | Bushmills | enjoying seeing the icon light up in sync with the PDA backlight when clicking on desktop icon :) |
| 14:48.08 | Bushmills | i was tired of having two desktop object for that purpose |
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| 14:50.29 | n8schicht | hi you guys! does anybody know in which config file I have to look to change the color of the balloon tips? the bright-yellow ones... any ideas? |
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| 14:52.30 | Bushmills | now... how do i pass scroll wheel events to the command, associated with a desktop object, when i move the mouse pointer on it, without clicking to start the program? |
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| 15:00.47 | Sho_ | Bushmills: The short answer would be "I don't, but you might be able to in KDE 4" |
| 15:00.52 | Sho_ | err, "You don't" |
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| 15:03.50 | Bushmills | Sho_: ok, will wait a bit then |
| 15:04.39 | Bushmills | still PDA related... backlight has 256 brightness levels, and just turning on and off gets a bit boring :) |
| 15:05.05 | Sho_ | Bushmills: Desktop icons are fairly limited objects; the KDE 4 desktop layer is capable of hosting significantly more elaborate and flexible objects |
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| 15:07.02 | l_r | hello |
| 15:07.13 | l_r | what's the name of the calculator in kde? |
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| 15:08.24 | Sho_ | l_r: KCalc |
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| 15:09.40 | Bushmills | l_r: there's a math expression evaluator for kicker, nice alternative to having to start a calculator program |
| 15:10.28 | l_r | Bushmills, what is it? |
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| 15:11.53 | Bushmills | l_r: http://forthfreak.net/snap/1184253062.png, the dialog with numbers on the right |
| 15:12.00 | l_r | thnks |
| 15:12.41 | Bushmills | just hack your expression in there. |
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| 15:20.05 | acidBURN | in Konqueror importing bookmark file (.html) not working |
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| 15:36.58 | GionnyBoss | acidBURN, if it is a bug and doesn't work even if you retry it, why don't you send a bug notification? |
| 15:37.14 | GionnyBoss | so you can help to improove Konqueror |
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| 15:47.33 | rorich | in the kde taskbar it's very hard for me to find konqueror because it doesn't use it's icon, but always another icon (favicon) and a site's name, which is very disturbing and confusing. how can i force konqueror show IT'S FUCKING OWN ICON? please help me, i am very frustrated! |
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| 15:48.22 | rorich | it's=its |
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| 15:53.34 | pierre_ | i accidently removed all my panels, is there a way to restore them to default_ |
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| 15:55.39 | rorich | pierre_: pannels from where? |
| 15:56.21 | pierre_ | rorich: panels from the desktop |
| 15:56.28 | pierre_ | rorich: its all blank now |
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| 15:58.55 | Bushmills | pierre_: removed as in deleted all of them, or as in killed kicker? |
| 15:59.24 | pierre_ | Bushmills: i dont understand what you mean |
| 15:59.35 | Bushmills | does kicker still run? |
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| 15:59.40 | pierre_ | yes |
| 15:59.55 | Bushmills | try to kill kicker, and start it again |
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| 16:00.15 | pierre_ | all i know is that i right clicked the taskbar and somehow clicked it to remove everything |
| 16:00.34 | pierre_ | how do i kill the kicker? |
| 16:00.47 | Bushmills | pkill kicker, if you have pkill |
| 16:01.01 | pierre_ | ok, how do i start it up again? |
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| 16:01.08 | Bushmills | by executing kicker |
| 16:01.16 | pierre_ | im new... |
| 16:01.42 | pierre_ | well ok it didnt work |
| 16:02.25 | gdiebel | rorich: please watch the foul language. edit ~/.kde/share/config/konquerorrc. in the HTML Settings section, add EnableFavicon=false |
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| 16:03.05 | gfti | Any ideas for a good QT cd ripper? I'm looking for something that uses EAC |
| 16:03.10 | gfti | I mean LAME* |
| 16:03.11 | Bushmills | in the worst case (not to say you should do that now already) you can exit kde, remove the whole ~/.kde directory, and start kde again, for a default |
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| 16:03.43 | thiago | gfti: k3b, KAudioCreator |
| 16:03.50 | pierre_ | i am uber noob, whats the command to delete directories? >) |
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| 16:04.13 | Bushmills | i'd not suggest to do that while still in kde. rm -R |
| 16:04.29 | pierre_ | what can happen if im in kde doing it_ |
| 16:04.30 | pierre_ | ? |
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| 16:04.53 | Bushmills | you pull away files from under the feet of running programs |
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| 16:05.09 | Bushmills | unpredicatable |
| 16:05.14 | pierre_ | well im gonna try anyway |
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| 16:06.06 | gfti | thiago: Where do I go in k3b to rip cds? |
| 16:06.18 | thiago | gfti: in the menus |
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| 16:07.26 | gfti | Ah, thanks |
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| 16:19.00 | Lindir | Hello everybody! I have a trouble with Konqueror. It doesn't open internet pages. But, for instance, w3m works very well |
| 16:19.33 | Lindir | Could you help me? |
| 16:19.35 | thiago | what does it say? |
| 16:19.52 | Lindir | nothing. Connection error |
| 16:20.06 | thiago | exact error message in English, please. |
| 16:20.13 | Lindir | ok |
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| 16:22.48 | Lindir | oh. I have a russian locale, so you couldn't read it |
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| 16:23.25 | Lindir | it say just error connection when it tries to download the page |
| 16:23.47 | Lindir | no more |
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| 16:24.54 | thiago | does any KDE application work on network connections? |
| 16:25.21 | litb | Lindir: switch to english then |
| 16:25.22 | Lindir | yeah - Kopete and this one, Konversation |
| 16:25.25 | nikolavp | can someone tell me what window decoration is this |
| 16:25.26 | nikolavp | http://techbase.kde.org/images/3/33/Snapshot1.png |
| 16:25.39 | nikolavp | i am in love with it and i find it everywhere |
| 16:25.44 | nikolavp | but dont know the damn name :O |
| 16:25.46 | pinotree | crystal |
| 16:26.12 | nikolavp | thanks pinotree i will have a look for it :P |
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| 16:27.42 | Lindir | *happened |
| 16:27.51 | thiago | Lindir: I'm wondering if it's a general KDE problem or if it's specific to Konqueror |
| 16:27.57 | thiago | can you browse ftp in Konqueror? |
| 16:28.18 | vbgunz_ | thiago: I can |
| 16:28.29 | vbgunz_ | I think so |
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| 16:28.44 | Lindir | I'm going to reboot |
| 16:28.50 | Lindir | farewell |
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| 16:30.33 | hat0 | hi. i've got a very simple kmail question. where do i set the mail folder prefix for an imap account? (i've read the manual and it did not offer guidance) |
| 16:30.42 | hat0 | distribution: fedora 7 |
| 16:30.48 | litb | i told him how to change the language on the fly. he didn't listen... |
| 16:31.09 | litb | reboot to change the language... oo |
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| 16:36.09 | gbowden | Hi, in kdm is it possible to change the language of my kde session? |
| 16:36.22 | thiago | no |
| 16:36.26 | hat0 | is there a better place to go to find this answer to this kmail dilemma? it seems that it should be an obvious setting, to set the imap mail folder prefix |
| 16:36.27 | thiago | you have to log in first |
| 16:36.40 | thiago | hat0: that is supplied by the server. |
| 16:37.33 | hat0 | thiago, in fact it seems that my server does not provide it. other programs let me set this. is this just "the way kmail works"? |
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| 16:39.19 | thiago | hat0: what do you mean? The server doesn't give you the namespace? |
| 16:39.42 | thiago | hat0: besides, what's the problem? Can't you just create folders where they are accepted? |
| 16:40.18 | hat0 | thiago, i store my emails in a subfolder on my home directory - i have a lot of folders. as i also store other files in my home directory, it's much tidier to have a Mail/ folder. other mail programs let me to use just Mail/ for the imap mail - does kmail not do this? |
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| 16:41.57 | thiago | hat0: oh, that |
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| 16:42.03 | thiago | hat0: are you using uw-imap? |
| 16:42.10 | hat0 | i think so |
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| 16:43.08 | thiago | hat0: have you tried editing the field in the account settings already? |
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| 16:43.29 | hat0 | thiago, that's the problem!! :D there is no such field in the account settings as i see it |
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| 16:44.18 | thiago | Settings, Configure KMail..., select the Accounts, select your IMAP account, click Change |
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| 16:44.34 | thiago | do you see the Namespace entries (3 of them) in the middle of the dialog? |
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| 16:44.43 | hat0 | yes |
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| 16:45.06 | thiago | edit them |
| 16:45.17 | thiago | the Personal one, for instance |
| 16:46.21 | hat0 | how might i edit that to have that folder prefix? |
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| 16:47.51 | thiago | click the edit button on the right and type the prefix |
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| 16:51.08 | metbsd | my kde doesn't have sound, the sound daemon is on |
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| 17:05.44 | metbsd | why my kde has no sound? |
| 17:06.11 | Skrot_ | Does other (non-kde) apps have sound? |
| 17:06.17 | metbsd | amarok has |
| 17:06.25 | metbsd | juk doesn't |
| 17:06.32 | Skrot_ | hm |
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| 17:07.17 | Skrot_ | What is marked under Settings -> Output To -> ... in JuK? |
| 17:07.48 | Cossacks | Hi, which player does play .mid files in fedora? |
| 17:07.51 | Skrot_ | And also, wwhich sound system is selected under Settings -> Configure Amarok -> Engine in amarok? |
| 17:07.53 | Skrot_ | #fedora |
| 17:07.54 | Cossacks | Kmid doesnt work. |
| 17:08.08 | metbsd | arts |
| 17:08.14 | Skrot_ | Both for juk and amarok? |
| 17:08.17 | metbsd | Skrot_: arts |
| 17:08.29 | metbsd | yes both arts |
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| 17:08.38 | Skrot_ | weird |
| 17:10.33 | labmgr | hello I am trying to K Virtual Manager and I am installing virtual windows but I cannot press f8 |
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| 17:11.05 | thiago | never heard of K Virtual Manager |
| 17:11.23 | Skrot_ | Me either |
| 17:11.27 | labmgr | It on the Sabayon Distro |
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| 17:29.06 | bookstack | Q: unable to lock the session using kdesktop_lock on 3.5.7 |
| 17:29.35 | bookstack | a dialog complained: "will not unlock the session as unlock would be impossible no appropriate plugin configured kde" |
| 17:30.01 | bookstack | platform is kde 3.5.7 in Gentoo |
| 17:30.15 | bookstack | anyidea? |
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| 17:39.09 | pala | i accidently pressed something and now my taskbar (both, the one at the bottom, and the one at the right i had) has gone... I think i pressed right click on the bottom taskbar and then clicked on something, but i'm not sure. How can I get my taskbar back? |
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| 17:45.00 | gufymike | pala look closely to the edges of the screen for arrows, or kn kcontrol -> Desktop -> Panels |
| 17:45.06 | gufymike | -kn* |
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| 17:47.15 | pala | i went in the control panel, i selected to show the arrows, but they didn't show up |
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| 17:48.36 | gufymike | pala: no, you have to configure it to reshow, or if it crashed then restart it (this one I do by reloging in and out kpanel tho I think is the command), the arrows are for it to show/hide it. |
| 17:48.40 | rorich | in the kde taskbar it's very hard for me to find konqueror because it doesn't use its icon, but always another icon (favicon) and a site's name, which is very disturbing and confusing. how can i force konqueror show ITS FUCKING OWN ICON? please help me, i am very frustrated! |
| 17:48.47 | gufymike | -kpanel tho |
| 17:49.35 | pala | ok, thank you gufymike |
| 17:49.55 | gufymike | your welcome pala |
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| 17:52.16 | metbsd | help |
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| 17:52.19 | metbsd | kde no sound |
| 17:52.46 | PhilRod | ~artstr |
| 17:52.47 | apt | You can find some tips on diagnosing sound-related problems at http://docs.kde.org/development/en/kdebase/faq/sound.html |
| 17:53.04 | PhilRod | hrm, maybe apt is still banned |
| 17:53.09 | PhilRod | metbsd: see the faq (topic) |
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| 17:55.59 | metbsd | unix_connect: can't connect to server (unix:/tmp/ksocket-necro/-435a-4696d8c6) |
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| 17:59.00 | PhilRod | metbsd: read http://docs.kde.org/development/en/kdebase/faq/sound.html |
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| 17:59.56 | metbsd | this is what i get when i try artsplay an mp3 |
| 18:00.10 | metbsd | thats what i get with artsd -1 0 |
| 18:00.15 | metbsd | i'm following that guide |
| 18:00.24 | metbsd | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:01.18 | pinotree | you have a problem in your xine |
| 18:02.00 | PhilRod | metbsd: ask in #yourdistro - something's wrong with your installation |
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| 18:06.59 | metbsd | arts sucks? |
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| 18:07.52 | thiago | metbsd: yes |
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| 18:08.29 | metbsd | what do you suggest? |
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| 18:08.51 | rorich | it's better for konqueror to treat favicons in tabs and in taskbar separately |
| 18:08.52 | Skrot_ | Disable arts and output directly to gstreamer or xine |
| 18:08.55 | rorich | it's better to have an option to see the konqueror's icon + "konqueror" in taskbar rather than the site's favicon and the site's title, because some people (i, for instance) find the various names and icons of... konqueror on taskbar confusing and don't manage to find *the konqueror window* |
| 18:09.01 | rorich | (because of the fact that the konqueror's taskbar entry always shows the site name and favicon of the currently open tab, which can happen to be anyone; i just want to see *KONQUEROR* on the taskbar, not some casual tab) |
| 18:09.10 | rorich | what do you think about this suggestion? |
| 18:09.24 | litb | use alsa directly |
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| 18:09.59 | rorich | but be honest |
| 18:10.17 | PhilRod | rorich: I'd tend to agree. I've heard the idea discussed before, so I'm pretty sure there's already a report on bugs.kde.org for it |
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| 18:10.36 | rorich | PhilRod: thank you |
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| 18:11.45 | rorich | PhilRod: is there anybody on this channel involved in the development of kde? |
| 18:11.56 | rorich | PhilRod: i mean konqueror |
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| 18:13.25 | zwerg | Hi there. |
| 18:14.19 | zwerg | Is there a way to colorize the group-frames so that I also see them with a dark theme? |
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| 18:27.41 | gbowden | Hi, how can I remove an entry from the "most used applications" list in the kmenu? |
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| 18:28.02 | DaSkreech | reinstall :) |
| 18:28.06 | DaSkreech | I don't know :( |
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| 18:30.09 | Ctibor | gbowden: search in ~/.kde |
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| 18:35.41 | phoenixz | I have (many times) that when I open a mail directory in kmail that I have thi s blue screen with "Please wait".. and I wait.. and wait.. nothing happens! Why is this, and how do I fix this? |
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| 18:38.25 | gbowden | Ctibor: found it in the kicker options menu |
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| 18:57.15 | FreshPrince | olaa |
| 18:57.36 | DaSkreech | pinotree: Hello ;0 |
| 18:57.38 | DaSkreech | :-) |
| 18:57.47 | Jogai | hi |
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| 18:58.17 | Jogai | I asked in #sabayon but maybe its more kde related: I want to set xgl acceleration and beryl manager as default on startup, does anyone know a walktrough for that? |
| 18:59.10 | Sho_ | ~kdewm |
| 18:59.11 | apt | You can change the window manager used by KDE with the $KDEWM environment variable. See http://ktown.kde.org/~seli/kdewm/ |
| 18:59.28 | Sho_ | dumb bot |
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| 18:59.40 | Skrot_ | XGL Acceleration is distro/Xorg specific, but you should be able to get help adding a app to autostart with KDE here ;) |
| 18:59.41 | DaSkreech | :-) |
| 18:59.44 | Sho_ | Jogai: KDE's session startup script starts the window manager specified in the KDEWM environment variable |
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| 18:59.52 | Sho_ | Jogai: Anything beyond that -> #beryl |
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| 19:00.08 | Skrot_ | Can't he just add a script or a .desktop to ~/Autostart? |
| 19:00.22 | Sho_ | Skrot_: No. |
| 19:00.30 | DaSkreech | Sho_: Can I check something. Do you know where I can find jbvg6y |
| 19:00.30 | DaSkreech | +55-+ |
| 19:00.34 | Skrot_ | hm |
| 19:01.09 | DaSkreech | Do you know where I can find docs on having the new -> service menu make a template |
| 19:01.37 | Skrot_ | hm, are service menues being reworked for KDE 4? |
| 19:01.39 | Ctibor | Jogai: In gentoo you must write KDEWM=beryl-manager to /etc/env.d/99kde-env, maybe it will help you |
| 19:01.46 | Ctibor | then env-update |
| 19:01.50 | Sho_ | DaSkreech: see $KDEDIR/share/templates |
| 19:02.01 | DaSkreech | Ok |
| 19:02.06 | Sho_ | DaSkreech: They're .desktop files |
| 19:02.30 | metbsd | can i config kde to use alsa? |
| 19:02.39 | litb | he just needs to add a script to .kde/env/ |
| 19:03.11 | Sho_ | DaSkreech: $KDEDIR/templates/.source holds the template files referenced by the .desktop files |
| 19:03.12 | litb | which has KDEWM=$(which beryl) as its only line |
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| 19:03.22 | Skrot_ | metbsd: No, but you can configure apps (JuK, amarok, etc) to use a backend (such as xine or gstreamer) that uses alsa |
| 19:03.23 | Sho_ | DaSkreech: E.g. TextFile.desktop references .source/TextFile.txt which is an empty text file ;) |
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| 19:03.49 | Sho_ | metbsd: KDEs sound server aRts can use ALSA as backend |
| 19:04.04 | litb | metbsd: just don't use arts |
| 19:04.05 | metbsd | but arts shit doesn't work here |
| 19:04.18 | litb | every app i encounter has the ability to use alsa directly. |
| 19:04.30 | litb | no use for old fashioned arts |
| 19:04.32 | metbsd | what's the difference among all these names: arts, alsa, esound, xine,gstreamer,oss |
| 19:04.35 | metbsd | i'm so fucking confused |
| 19:04.46 | metbsd | why the fuck do i use something among another |
| 19:05.01 | metbsd | can i use alsa so alsa use oss? |
| 19:05.01 | metbsd | wtf |
| 19:05.08 | Ctibor | metbsd: They're the layer between alsa and apps... |
| 19:05.08 | Skrot_ | metbsd: They are different layers of functionallity. alsa and oss can be compared to each other, as can xine and gstreamer. |
| 19:05.14 | litb | metbsd: you need only alsa . you don't need any other |
| 19:05.18 | Sho_ | metbsd: The biggest user of aRts in KDE is the KNotify notification subsystem, which you can configure in KControl to use an alternative player that may use ALSA directly. Other apps (like Amarok) can use ALSA directly, too, via backends like xine. You might be able to get away without aRts. |
| 19:05.20 | metbsd | what is alsa |
| 19:05.44 | metbsd | which are backends.... ffffuuuuccckkk |
| 19:05.45 | Sho_ | metbsd: ALSA is a sound hardware interface provided by the Linux kernel. It's not available on BSD. |
| 19:05.47 | litb | forget about them. they are historic and/or for other desktops like GNOME and/or are media players |
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| 19:06.08 | metbsd | ok, so no alsa for me, fck alsa, period |
| 19:06.12 | metbsd | i have oss, esound |
| 19:06.19 | metbsd | can i use esound in kde? why not |
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| 19:06.44 | Sho_ | aRts can use esound as a backend, but that's redundant. Both are sound servers. |
| 19:06.44 | litb | metbsd: forget about KNotify sound. it isn't ported form arts yet. it only consumes memory and cpu. just don't use sound for window movements and such |
| 19:06.52 | Sho_ | On BSD, the hardware interface available to you is OSS |
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| 19:07.00 | metbsd | yes OSS |
| 19:07.05 | Sho_ | So either you set up your apps to use OSS directly, or you let them use aRts and set aRts to use OSS. |
| 19:07.10 | metbsd | so if i point kde to use OSS, everything will be fine? |
| 19:07.16 | litb | metbsd: esound is for gnome, oss is not supported in newer kernels anymore |
| 19:07.27 | metbsd | but when i artsplay some mp3, it gave me error |
| 19:07.43 | Sho_ | Unfortunately not quite. The problem with OSS is that most versions of it out there don't support software mixing, so there can only be one user of the sound hardware at all times. |
| 19:07.51 | metbsd | esound is not for kde, is for gnome, correct? |
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| 19:08.07 | Sho_ | That's why aRts was created in the first place (ALSA didn't exist). The idea was that aRts would use OSS, and all other apps would use aRts; aRts would do the mixing. |
| 19:08.12 | litb | metbsd: "soundserver" is a term which is historic. new alsa versions directly support multiple sound streams and you therefore don't need any soundserver |
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| 19:08.16 | metbsd | so bsd use oss, linux use alsa, right? |
| 19:08.17 | Sho_ | Which works fine, as long as everything you have does indeed use aRts. |
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| 19:08.28 | Sho_ | If you have something else that wants to use OSS directly, too, you have a problem. |
| 19:08.33 | metbsd | but i have no alsa, someone just told me that cuz im using bsd |
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| 19:08.39 | metbsd | i'm on nebsd btw |
| 19:08.43 | litb | just don't let ppl confuse you |
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| 19:08.48 | Sho_ | The most recent version of OSS does support mixing, but I have no idea what's being used on BSD. |
| 19:08.54 | DaSkreech | Sho_: can I make a textFile that has data inside? |
| 19:09.02 | Sho_ | DaSkreech: yes |
| 19:09.17 | metbsd | worry not let me ask them |
| 19:09.28 | metbsd | so oss is also bsd kernel thing? |
| 19:09.33 | metbsd | and alsa is linux kernel thing, right? |
| 19:09.36 | Sho_ | yeah |
| 19:09.48 | metbsd | so, sound hardware -> oss, nothing inbetween, right? |
| 19:09.50 | Sho_ | ALSA = Advanced Linux Sound Architecture. It was created to replace OSS on Linux. |
| 19:09.52 | DaSkreech | Sho_: neat |
| 19:09.53 | Sho_ | yup |
| 19:10.13 | metbsd | and: arts use oss/alsa to do software mixing, right? |
| 19:10.21 | litb | metbsd: if you use bsd. indeed you have no alsa then |
| 19:10.24 | Sho_ | DaSkreech: The .desktop file references a template file somewhere. That template file can contain anything you want. If you then create such a document via the New menu, the template file is copied over. |
| 19:10.40 | phoenixz | Could anybody tell me why in copete, while talking to yahoo users, <enters> show up with the yahoo users as <br /> |
| 19:10.43 | metbsd | i already forget alsa, cuz im on netbsd |
| 19:10.49 | Sho_ | metbsd: aRts is a sound server that does software mixing for its clients (i.e. apps) on top of e.g. OSS, yeah |
| 19:11.02 | metbsd | can i use something other than alsa to use oss to do software mixing? |
| 19:11.25 | Sho_ | metbsd: The Enlightenment Sound Daemon (which you refer to as esound) is also a sound server like aRts, afaik |
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| 19:11.50 | litb | metbsd: if you are a beginner, i would use linux to begin with the world of unix, first |
| 19:11.52 | metbsd | but i was just told esound is for gnome, NOT for kde? |
| 19:11.59 | metbsd | i'm not beginner |
| 19:12.07 | litb | it looks like that |
| 19:12.14 | metbsd | but im not |
| 19:12.18 | metbsd | lol |
| 19:12.21 | litb | that's fine :) |
| 19:12.22 | Sho_ | metbsd: esound was created by Enlightenment, and Gnome decided to use it. KDE decided to use aRts. |
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| 19:12.36 | metbsd | can i make kde to use esound? |
| 19:12.48 | Sho_ | metbsd: Media player engines like xine which are used by apps like Amarok can use aRts, esound, ALSA etc. as outputs |
| 19:12.58 | metbsd | maybe every newbie does not admit he is newbie |
| 19:13.11 | litb | metbsd: you have to differentiate between KDE and KDE apps |
| 19:13.19 | metbsd | ok so here comes one more layer: media player engine |
| 19:13.32 | metbsd | what are other media player engine |
| 19:13.38 | metbsd | xine, what else |
| 19:13.39 | litb | KDE is window-close, wiindow-open which then makes funny "klicks"-sounds. KDE-apps, however, mostly support multiple sound systems |
| 19:13.51 | Sho_ | metbsd: You can tell aRts to use esound as output, which is redundant. |
| 19:13.53 | litb | like, you can choose whether to use arts, alsa or oss and the like |
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| 19:14.00 | metbsd | no, juk does not work too |
| 19:14.01 | ccc | phoenixz: i take it you're using something older than kde 3.5.7? that bug is listed as fixed in kopete in the latest kde release. |
| 19:14.05 | metbsd | but arts does not work here |
| 19:14.10 | metbsd | i tried artsplay |
| 19:14.16 | metbsd | error |
| 19:14.29 | Sho_ | metbsd: Another thing you could do is try not to use aRts at all. You can configure aRts' biggest user in KDE, the KNotify system used for sound notifications, to use an external player via KControl. And apps like Amarok can use other outouts via xine, as said before. |
| 19:14.51 | Skrot_ | My sugguestion would be: turn off aRts, configure JuK and amarok to playback using xine or gstreamer :] |
| 19:14.53 | tuxick | wasn't arts kinda deprecated already? |
| 19:15.03 | tuxick | it's been a major pain for years now |
| 19:15.10 | Sho_ | tuxick: In KDE 4. In KDE 3 it's the official way to make noise. |
| 19:15.15 | tuxick | ah ok |
| 19:15.20 | metbsd | when is kde4 out |
| 19:15.22 | tuxick | i remembered half right then :) |
| 19:15.29 | metbsd | i believe kde4 will be alot better, i can't wait |
| 19:15.32 | Skrot_ | metbsd: Target release date i october 23rd |
| 19:15.42 | metbsd | i think kde4 will kick ass |
| 19:15.47 | Skrot_ | We all do :) |
| 19:15.55 | litb | metbsd: for example, when i was on that "klick"-tour, i used /usr/bin/play and also aplay |
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| 19:16.08 | litb | mplayer is also fast for playing sound files |
| 19:16.16 | metbsd | so when i click something in kde, it does artsplay sound? |
| 19:16.23 | Sho_ | metbsd: yup |
| 19:16.26 | Sho_ | metbsd: Via KNotify |
| 19:16.42 | metbsd | but i can make it to use esound, and esound can use oss |
| 19:16.45 | litb | metbsd: it doesn't depend on KDE that much. it does depend more on your distribution |
| 19:16.47 | Sho_ | metbsd: But KNotify can be configured not to use aRts bot to use an external player |
| 19:17.00 | litb | so if you use BDS, you should ask your BDS geeks to provide a bettersoundsystem |
| 19:17.01 | metbsd | how do i config knotify |
| 19:17.09 | metbsd | they suck |
| 19:17.15 | metbsd | they only use windows for desktop |
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| 19:17.23 | Sho_ | KRF: In the "System Notifications" settings page in KControl |
| 19:17.29 | Sho_ | argh |
| 19:17.32 | litb | as many apps iin KDE are capable to use different engines. but these must be the same for other apps as well. |
| 19:17.35 | Sho_ | metbsd: In the "System Notifications" settings page in KControl |
| 19:17.43 | Sho_ | metbsd: "Player Settings" button in the lower-right |
| 19:18.14 | metbsd | what should i set it to |
| 19:18.20 | tuxick | i wonder why amarok needs xine |
| 19:18.40 | litb | it doesnt need it |
| 19:18.47 | litb | afaik |
| 19:18.51 | Sho_ | tuxick: It doesn't need xine - it can also use Helix, and theoretically anything you develop a backend plugin for |
| 19:18.52 | tuxick | it's the only option i see available in config |
| 19:19.02 | tuxick | hmm |
| 19:19.07 | tuxick | compile time issue? |
| 19:19.14 | Sho_ | tuxick: Presumably it doesn't display options that aren't available, or it's a compile-time thing |
| 19:19.19 | litb | configure time issue |
| 19:19.25 | Sho_ | tuxick: Also, I think Debian has seperate packages for the different backend plugins |
| 19:19.37 | tuxick | hmm, lessee what gentoo offers |
| 19:19.40 | Sho_ | tuxick: The multimedia system in KDE 4 works similarly: Phonon is a thin wrapper around pluggable backends |
| 19:20.35 | litb | yeah. then mr. uber would complain why app foo doesn't play while amarok plays in the background |
| 19:21.50 | metbsd | hey what external player is good for kde |
| 19:21.50 | tuxick | xine is a dependency on gentoo |
| 19:21.56 | metbsd | for that sound knotify |
| 19:22.08 | Sho_ | tuxick: Gentoo's Amarok maintainer is a xine developer |
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| 19:22.25 | Sho_ | tuxick: iirc he once blogged about making one of the backends a hard dependency for convenience reasons ... guess he chose xine ;) |
| 19:22.34 | tuxick | heh that explains |
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| 19:23.53 | Egyptian[Home1 | hi .. how do i use bluetooth with kde? |
| 19:24.27 | Sho_ | Install kdebluetooth |
| 19:24.31 | tuxick | heh beat me |
| 19:24.39 | Egyptian[Home1 | is it available for fedora 7? |
| 19:24.56 | Sho_ | Hm that's something that #fedora would have to answer |
| 19:24.56 | tuxick | if not you better dump fedora |
| 19:25.04 | Egyptian[Home1 | tuxick: thanks |
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| 19:25.16 | DaSkreech | KDE4 will ship with the next Fedora |
| 19:25.55 | tuxick | Sho_: slackware stopped providing gnome :) |
| 19:26.03 | tuxick | "too much hassle" |
| 19:26.21 | tuxick | it's now done by third party afair |
| 19:26.24 | Sho_ | yeah I heard :) |
| 19:26.26 | DaSkreech | Sho_: Any thougths on Regular KDE relelases? |
| 19:26.31 | DaSkreech | releases |
| 19:27.15 | Narishma | not many people are thrilled about it |
| 19:27.17 | Ctibor | I'm glad that doesn't matter on gentoo ;-) |
| 19:27.21 | Sho_ | DaSkreech: The every-six-month thing? In theory I look favorably upon time-based release schemes ... once the community gets used to it the advantages of synergy and predictability are pretty big |
| 19:27.38 | Sho_ | DaSkreech: I'd certainly like to see us iterate in that manner for the couple of releases after 4.0# |
| 19:28.23 | DaSkreech | Yeah I can see the benefits as long as we aren't held to that during uphevals |
| 19:28.30 | DaSkreech | `and that we don't sync with Gnome |
| 19:28.56 | Skrot_ | heh, why is syncing with gnome (or gnome syncing with kde) a bad idea? |
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| 19:29.28 | Sho_ | Skrot_: Well, if Gnome and KDE release at seperat times, we can get more indivdual press coverage for both |
| 19:29.36 | Skrot_ | Well, true |
| 19:29.39 | Sho_ | Skrot_: It's better if FOSS is in the news all the time than just once every six month |
| 19:30.34 | Skrot_ | indeed |
| 19:31.09 | Sho_ | But the best thing about time-driven releases in a regular interval is that developers working within such a scheme gradually adopt a mindset in which they think about scheduling and how to actually get something done more than when they develop unhinged. That kind of stability can help a lot within a project me thinks. |
| 19:32.06 | Sho_ | So I kind of like the model of taking an unspecified, longer time to develop a bigger next-gen release like 4.0, but iterate fairly quickly and on a fixed schedule for the 4.x point releases. |
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| 19:34.03 | Skrot_ | I can see the benefit for minor versions, but wouldn't major versions such as KDE 3 -> KDE 4 be next to impossible due to all the major changes and dependencies? |
| 19:34.30 | Sho_ | Skrot_: yeah, you can't do that in six month obviously :) |
| 19:34.53 | Sho_ | Skrot_: But then we're not faced with things like porting from Qt3 to Qt4 in every release cycle |
| 19:35.08 | Sho_ | Skrot_: Many other things can be introduced more gradually |
| 19:35.09 | Skrot_ | indeed, thus I can see the benefits for minor versions ;) |
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| 19:37.18 | DaSkreech | Course we would probably need to rethink our version numbering |
| 19:38.01 | Sho_ | Don't really see why |
| 19:38.03 | zimon | hi .. how do i tell kopete to save current settings? i want to hide the searchbar, toolbar and menubar, so that there's just the contact list. |
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| 19:39.50 | Sho_ | zimon: If you hide then, they should remain hidden next time you start the app |
| 19:39.51 | Skrot_ | You could just release a micro version(? like x.y.z) every 3rd month with only bugfixes and such, and a minor version every 6th month with feature additions and also bugfixes? |
| 19:39.52 | Sho_ | *them |
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| 19:40.22 | zimon | Sho_: yeah .. i thought so .. but they are restored on every startup |
| 19:41.03 | Skrot_ | DaSkreech: Assuming you where afraid of running out of minor versions ;) |
| 19:41.20 | Sho_ | zimon: hm does work here. maybe you're out of diskspace or something? |
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| 19:41.38 | zimon | no .. absolutely not :-) |
| 19:41.51 | zimon | what's your version? |
| 19:42.50 | Sho_ | zimon: 0.12.5 |
| 19:42.55 | DaSkreech | Skrot_: Oh yeah |
| 19:42.59 | zimon | hm .. the same. |
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| 19:44.50 | zimon | ah .. the problem is that i close kopete by closing the window. if i do file -> quit the settings are saved. but this way i can't hide the menu |
| 19:46.02 | DaSkreech | KDE 4.5.∞looks great on a release changelog |
| 19:46.03 | Sho_ | zimon: Well, you can use the Quit action by its keyboard shortcut |
| 19:46.05 | Ralesk | zimon: I thought X-ing kopete only hid the window, didn't actually quit (see tray icon) |
| 19:46.09 | Sho_ | zimon: (add one via the config if nexessary) |
| 19:46.19 | litb | DaSkreech: which one? |
| 19:46.39 | DaSkreech | Which one what/ |
| 19:46.40 | DaSkreech | ? |
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| 19:46.58 | zimon | Ralesk: if you disable the taskbar icon you can quit by closing the window |
| 19:47.07 | litb | kde4.5 ? |
| 19:47.08 | Ralesk | ah |
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| 19:47.23 | DaSkreech | 4.5.∞ |
| 19:47.34 | DaSkreech | It's the minor version |
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| 19:48.37 | Ralesk | don't you mean 3.5.\infty ? |
| 19:48.54 | Sho_ | zimon: Would be a bug in Kopete then, btw - file it :) |
| 19:50.15 | zimon | Sho_: got it now .. closing it once via ctrl+q saved it. i never think of the easy ways ... |
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| 19:51.22 | Sho_ | zimon: Well closing the main window with the systray mechanic disabled should quit it properly too, so it's a bug |
| 19:52.06 | zimon | i've disabled the systray icon |
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| 19:53.00 | DaSkreech | Ralesk: 3.5 isn't under review for timed releases |
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| 19:53.07 | Sho_ | zimon: Yeah, that's what you said ... -> bug, please file it ;) |
| 19:53.12 | antiroach | is it possible to write a script to maximize a minimized window in kde? |
| 19:53.32 | zimon | i think i |
| 19:53.40 | zimon | .. i've git you wrong |
| 19:53.44 | zimon | got. gnah |
| 19:54.31 | Sho_ | antiroach: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=32107 or http://www.sweb.cz/tripie/utils/wmctrl/ |
| 19:54.59 | Dr_willis | antiroach, theres a few kde command progrms that can do a few things liek that. Not sure what all are still around. kstart used to be one. |
| 19:55.09 | Sho_ | zimon: You're observing that quitting the app via the Quit action saves the window settings, but quitting it by closing the main window doesn't. It should, however. That's a bug, and reporting it would let the Kopete developers know so they can fix it :) |
| 19:55.17 | Dr_willis | antiroach, but it may not work on existing apps. just new ones. |
| 19:55.24 | antiroach | thanks Sho_ ill check it out |
| 19:55.39 | Sho_ | antiroach: The links I gave you however allow scripting of window management operations on existing windows |
| 19:55.50 | antiroach | thats fine |
| 19:57.04 | zimon | Sho_: i thought you were meaning right-clicking the tray icon and quitting "properly" .. not just closing the window. i'm reporting it right now |
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| 19:57.27 | Sho_ | zimon: cool thanks |
| 19:57.47 | aseigo | erm. what? |
| 19:57.58 | aseigo | no, closing the window with the 'x' button should not quit kopete |
| 19:58.24 | aseigo | closing a window != quitting the app; that's only true when the app is document centric |
| 19:58.36 | aseigo | and even then, many apps choose to go into "open another file" mode at that point, but still... |
| 19:58.41 | aseigo | kopete is not document centric |
| 19:58.48 | aseigo | it's a service (access to IM) |
| 19:59.16 | aseigo | it would be blissfully painful (nice oxymoron there) if closing the window meant quitting the app and therefore going offline |
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| 20:01.27 | Sho_ | However when an app *does* chose to quit as its last window is closed, it should probably behave the same as if quit via the quit action |
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| 20:05.45 | Sho_ | And if you configure Kopete not to show a systray icon, it does quit the process when the last window is closed, but doesn't save e.g. the toolbar state, unlike when closed via the quit action. Which causes confusion as seen in zimon's case. |
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| 20:08.21 | nikolavp | someone know the icon set from this screenshot |
| 20:08.22 | nikolavp | http://kde-look.org/content/preview.php?preview=1&id=60541&file1=60541-1.png&file2=60541-2.png&file3=60541-3.png&name=darksky-LE |
| 20:08.25 | nikolavp | ? |
| 20:08.37 | nikolavp | there is a strange a problem with kde-look and i cannot login :( |
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| 20:16.12 | nikolavp | ;( |
| 20:16.22 | nikolavp | noone know the name of those icons ? |
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| 20:31.23 | Bushmills | antiroach: xwit may be of help. that's not kde specific, though |
| 20:31.42 | antiroach | ill check that out |
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| 20:32.11 | Sho_ | (neither is wmctrl) |
| 20:32.58 | Bushmills | from xwit man page: "xwit is an X window interface tool. By default when used with no arguments in an xterm it de-iconifies and raises the window." |
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| 20:33.12 | feierfox | hello |
| 20:33.15 | feierfox | i need help |
| 20:33.34 | feierfox | how can i print a list of files from a dir? |
| 20:33.41 | feierfox | not print, just give out |
| 20:33.49 | feierfox | in a textfile or something |
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| 20:33.51 | Bushmills | echo * |
| 20:33.53 | Bushmills | :) |
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| 20:35.33 | PhilRod | feierfox: ls > filename |
| 20:35.43 | feierfox | thanks |
| 20:35.47 | PhilRod | but best to ask in #yourdistro or one of the linux help channels |
| 20:36.19 | Jejem | /join #yourdistro |
| 20:36.22 | Jejem | empty channel =) |
| 20:36.53 | PhilRod | I did hang around there for a while to see how many stupid people went there, but it wasn't that many |
| 20:37.18 | holycow | *gulp* |
| 20:37.21 | holycow | glad i wasn't reading |
| 20:37.23 | holycow | -_- |
| 20:37.31 | Ralesk | PhilRod :DDDD |
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| 20:39.26 | PhilRod | heh, in 6 months only about 10 people joined |
| 20:39.41 | PhilRod | bbl |
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| 20:52.40 | antiroach | is it possible to force a window title for an application? |
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| 20:54.39 | graft | so... anyone know why my input actions would have suddenly vanished after upgrading to 3.5.7? |
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| 20:55.21 | graft | that stuff took me a lot of time to write... now it's just gone, poof? |
| 20:55.23 | graft | wtf? |
| 20:55.24 | rabauke | hello! Does somebody know why the window-seco in KDE4 just displays red when I chose the oxygen style? |
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| 20:58.11 | shwouchk | hi |
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| 20:58.35 | graft | also, why doesn't konsole transparency work in 3.5.7? when i enabled it in 3.5.6 it worked fine (more or less), now it won't work at all |
| 20:59.07 | shwouchk | is there a way to hide the 'contents&thumbnails' toolbar at the left of konq. when viewing PDFs? |
| 20:59.17 | shwouchk | graft: works for me |
| 20:59.33 | graft | how's it work? |
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| 21:00.29 | graft | i want true-transparency, not the faux-show-the-desktop-through-windows transparency |
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| 21:01.21 | shwouchk | graft: what do you mean by true transparency then? |
| 21:01.25 | graft | shwouchk: you can just shrink that toolbar down to nothing |
| 21:01.32 | shwouchk | graft: to see the window behind? |
| 21:01.37 | graft | true transparency meaning, it shows the windows between my window and the desktop, yeah |
| 21:01.46 | shwouchk | graft: yeah, but that sucks - I want to toggle it |
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| 21:03.34 | graft | hmm |
| 21:03.37 | graft | menu confusion |
| 21:03.44 | graft | KDE is so damned scatter-brained |
| 21:03.50 | graft | goto settings/hide navigation panel |
| 21:04.07 | graft | which is apparently a DIFFERENT navigation panel than the one in View/Show navigation panel |
| 21:04.16 | graft | but, obviously, no one could be arsed to make that distinction |
| 21:04.20 | shwouchk | graft: baah... anyway, I didnt find real transparency |
| 21:04.39 | graft | yeah, i suspect somehow it was broken |
| 21:04.46 | graft | but all will be golden in kde4 |
| 21:05.07 | shwouchk | graft: I dont even know how to do it in 3.5.6... |
| 21:05.27 | shwouchk | graft: any idea when 4 is due more or less? |
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| 21:05.43 | shevy | end of this year it should be a working version |
| 21:05.59 | thiago | take a look at the release schedule |
| 21:06.38 | graft | you had to enable some flag and recompile in 3.5.6 |
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| 21:06.50 | graft | the flag is enabled by default in 3.5.7, but now it just doesn't work |
| 21:06.54 | shwouchk | graft: well I compile it anyway |
| 21:07.04 | DaSkreech | more or less OCt 24 |
| 21:07.06 | shwouchk | shevy: cool |
| 21:07.14 | shwouchk | DaSkreech: heh |
| 21:07.21 | graft | kde4 by oct 24? really? |
| 21:07.27 | DaSkreech | More or less |
| 21:07.28 | shwouchk | I think it was a joke |
| 21:07.39 | shevy | well i am lenient. lets say this year anyway ;) |
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| 21:07.47 | shwouchk | I wish |
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| 21:10.13 | DaSkreech | :-) |
| 21:10.17 | DaSkreech | Wish hard :) |
| 21:11.12 | shevy | bah |
| 21:11.16 | shevy | i am sure it will be |
| 21:11.21 | shevy | kde team is a good team :) |
| 21:11.40 | shevy | i just hope that exactly what was already possible via dcop, will be possible in kde4 too |
| 21:12.00 | thiago | not everything |
| 21:12.13 | thiago | but what won't be possible most people didn't know existed in DCOP either. |
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| 21:14.56 | shevy | :( |
| 21:15.20 | shevy | well i will see it anyway the moments my script dont work but as long as the basic scripted stuff like changing wallpaper, audio settings etc.. work i will be happy :P |
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| 21:15.38 | yagami | so how do i start kpanel? |
| 21:15.53 | yagami | I think i accidentally pressed the panel after hitting ctrl+alt+escape |
| 21:16.05 | thiago | yagami: install KDE 1.1 and then type: kpanel. |
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| 21:16.24 | yagami | ok, i mean klauncher :P |
| 21:16.31 | thiago | no, you probably mean kicker |
| 21:16.37 | thiago | klauncher has no open windows you can click on |
| 21:16.57 | yagami | man, have i been out of touch. |
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| 21:17.51 | yagami | thanks, thiago |
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| 21:18.49 | dauoalagio2 | idk if it's a problem but it's just really annoying, konqueror won't load the google logo on www.google.com |
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| 21:20.59 | hayig2000 | Hi all, how to insert arabic letters? |
| 21:21.13 | hacosta | dauoalagio2: open this in konqueror http://www.google.com/intl/en_ALL/images/logo.gif |
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| 21:21.35 | thiago | hayig2000: set your input method to arabic. |
| 21:21.47 | hayig2000 | i did this |
| 21:22.00 | thiago | and what happens? |
| 21:22.03 | hayig2000 | but english numbers are displayed instead |
| 21:22.13 | hayig2000 | wait |
| 21:22.41 | DaSkreech | hayig2000: Where? |
| 21:22.47 | DaSkreech | Konversation ahs an insert char thing |
| 21:22.52 | DaSkreech | has |
| 21:23.09 | hayig2000 | i have two languages installed |
| 21:23.18 | hayig2000 | english and arabic |
| 21:24.04 | hayig2000 | when i set the input to arabic, english letters are displayed |
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| 21:24.28 | thiago | using kxkb? |
| 21:25.26 | hayig2000 | viki? |
| 21:25.45 | thiago | viki isn't for that |
| 21:25.51 | thiago | viki is an on-screen keyboard |
| 21:26.43 | thiago | what is your keyboard layout, according to setxkbmap -print ? |
| 21:26.57 | thiago | give me the "symbols" line |
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| 21:27.24 | hayig2000 | xkb_symbols { include "pc+us+ara:2+inet(a4techKB21)+group(alt_shift_toggle)" }; |
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| 21:28.47 | thiago | press alt+Shift |
| 21:29.03 | hayig2000 | i know |
| 21:29.10 | thiago | does it toggle to arabic? |
| 21:29.27 | hayig2000 | yes |
| 21:29.40 | hayig2000 | but not the letters |
| 21:30.03 | hayig2000 | i mean the numbers |
| 21:30.06 | hayig2000 | sorry |
| 21:31.19 | hayig2000 | .........when i set the input to arabic, arabic letters and english numbers are displayed |
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| 21:31.32 | hayig2000 | sorry for this confusion |
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| 21:33.03 | hayig2000 | see this |
| 21:33.08 | hayig2000 | بييبلل54443 |
| 21:33.18 | pinotree | (cool) |
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| 21:33.51 | hayig2000 | when i set the input to arabic, arabic letters and english numbers are displayed |
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| 21:35.54 | thiago | I have no idea then what the issue is |
| 21:36.27 | Ralesk | thiago: arabic uses a different set of numbers than we do |
| 21:36.59 | hayig2000 | should i make my default language: arabic? |
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| 21:37.49 | Ralesk | try to set your locale to it, yeah... might help (although doubtful -- the thai layout prints thai characters without my locale being thai) |
| 21:37.58 | shane2peru | anyone know how to change the 1st day of the week in Korganizer? |
| 21:38.17 | thiago | Ralesk: I know that. But I don't know how the ara keyboard layout works. |
| 21:38.20 | shane2peru | I want Sunday to be the first day |
| 21:38.25 | feierfox | hah, those "k"-words are looking so german :] |
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| 21:38.26 | Ralesk | shane2peru: Control Centre -> Regional |
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| 21:38.54 | Ralesk | I think there's a dropdown list there to select your first day of the week. |
| 21:39.13 | shane2peru | Ralesk: great, thanks I will take a look there |
| 21:39.50 | thiago | hayig2000: according to the ara file, the behaviour you got is correct. |
| 21:40.03 | shane2peru | Ralesk: that was it! Thanks |
| 21:40.13 | thiago | hayig2000: if you want the digits, use the ara(digits) layout. |
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| 21:41.20 | hayig2000 | i changed my default language to arabic but still the problem exists |
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| 21:45.23 | hayig2000 | any help about arabic letters |
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| 21:56.04 | hayig2000 | see this for the arabic digits layout: http://www.longpassages.org/images/Arabic_numbers_with_english_numbers.jpg |
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| 21:58.30 | hacosta | kwickshow is showing very garbled images.. any idea on why may this be happening? |
| 21:58.44 | hacosta | s/kwickshow/kuickshow |
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| 22:04.39 | Rasi | isnt kuickshow dead? |
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| 22:05.16 | hacosta | is it? |
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| 22:05.31 | Rasi | thougt so.. webpage's last update is from 2001 |
| 22:06.01 | thiago | it's not |
| 22:06.13 | hacosta | it used to work fin though, i liked that if i click on an image link and opened it with konqueror, it would load kuckshow |
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| 22:06.32 | hayig2000 | فاشىنس شمم بخق فاث اثمح |
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| 22:06.40 | hayig2000 | thanks all for the help |
| 22:06.46 | xororand | can i tell konqueror to use an http proxy but connect to the net directly for ftp://? |
| 22:07.40 | Rasi | of course |
| 22:07.55 | lgsobalvarro | Hi. Kopete supports iChat/Bonjour protocol? |
| 22:07.58 | Rasi | in proxy settings is a button advanced something settings |
| 22:08.13 | Rasi | no.. its disabled @ lgsobalvarro |
| 22:08.47 | lgsobalvarro | Rasi: but is posible make active that protocol? |
| 22:08.52 | Rasi | at least on arch |
| 22:09.07 | Rasi | i guess you can.. but protocoll changes very often |
| 22:09.11 | xororand | Rasi: hmm, i can't find it. when i select "[x] Manually specify proxy settings", it seems that i have to select either both an http & an ftp proxy or none |
| 22:09.13 | Rasi | so it probably wont work for long |
| 22:09.33 | lgsobalvarro | Rasi: so i must use kopete-svn? |
| 22:09.48 | Rasi | i can only speak for arch.. |
| 22:09.52 | Rasi | but in that case: yes |
| 22:10.13 | hacosta | Rasi: can you open a picture in kuickshow and tell me if it works for you? |
| 22:10.27 | Rasi | i would have to install it first :P |
| 22:10.27 | thiago | kuickshow works fine for me |
| 22:10.37 | lgsobalvarro | becouse in the 0.12.2 i dont see any way to configure it with bonjour support |
| 22:10.49 | Rasi | xororand, so you cant leave a line empty? |
| 22:11.13 | Rasi | i have 0.12.5 |
| 22:11.17 | hacosta | i'll try a new user |
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| 22:11.34 | xororand | Rasi: oh true, that works. thanks. |
| 22:11.41 | lgsobalvarro | Rasi: and it works better than pidgin? |
| 22:11.54 | Rasi | well |
| 22:12.01 | Rasi | it integrates nicely :P |
| 22:12.09 | Rasi | it does not support file transport tho... |
| 22:12.16 | Rasi | transfer even |
| 22:12.32 | lgsobalvarro | i dont need that :) |
| 22:12.41 | Rasi | lgsobalvarro, but why using a unstable protocol like bonjour? |
| 22:12.56 | hacosta | it's fsckd up in every user... oh well |
| 22:13.25 | lgsobalvarro | Rasi: becouse i need it... works reasons ... |
| 22:13.25 | Rasi | maybe the jpg is screwed :P |
| 22:13.53 | Rasi | are you working at apple? :P |
| 22:14.36 | lgsobalvarro | well no Rasi jeje however i need that, and realy pidgin... is too ugly |
| 22:14.54 | Rasi | ok |
| 22:15.00 | Rasi | anyway.. try latest svn |
| 22:15.04 | Rasi | maybe you're lucky |
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| 22:15.30 | lgsobalvarro | ok Rasi thanks |
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| 22:17.07 | Rasi | AmyRose, speaking of konqueror.. i have a problem with png files showing really slow |
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| 22:17.18 | Rasi | takes up to 20 seconds to display the image |
| 22:17.22 | MidNight_SunRay | hi ppl |
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| 22:17.49 | AmyRose | Rasi: What distro/OS are you on? |
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| 22:17.59 | MidNight_SunRay | does anyone know how i can force KDE to mount my portable hd always on /media/LACIE, instead of sda1 or sdb1 ??? |
| 22:18.04 | Rasi | arch linux.. using kdemod |
| 22:18.15 | AmyRose | yikes |
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| 22:18.51 | AmyRose | Rasi: I've had nothing but trouble with Arch. In fact, in my Linux class, it was the distro where everything was a problem... |
| 22:19.07 | Rasi | hehe, well here everything works more than just fine |
| 22:19.11 | Rasi | and fast |
| 22:19.15 | AmyRose | MidNight_SunRay: I would think that you'd have to configure HAL |
| 22:20.06 | MidNight_SunRay | but gnome does it automatically, when using ubuntu instead of kubuntu |
| 22:21.10 | AmyRose | MidNight_SunRay: Then are you looking at the URL correctly? It could be going to system:/media/sda1 or media:/sda1 |
| 22:21.42 | AmyRose | instead of /media/sda1 |
| 22:22.04 | MidNight_SunRay | yep, the point is that the mount point changes after reboot |
| 22:22.22 | MidNight_SunRay | stting up to either sda1 or sb1, but never to something static like LACIE |
| 22:23.28 | dauoalagio2 | for some reason ktorrent isn't showing the files, peers, trackers, etc thing on the bottom like it has on other distros (just newly installed gentoo)...any ideas? i would relaly like to download a couple files before others |
| 22:26.34 | AmyRose | MidNight_SunRay: I'm sorry I don't know :( |
| 22:26.52 | MidNight_SunRay | never mind |
| 22:26.53 | MidNight_SunRay | ;) |
| 22:27.07 | AmyRose | OK then |
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| 22:29.39 | antiroach | is there some way that i can gain focus of a window from the command line |
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| 22:30.28 | dauoalagio2 | antiroach, youcan use alt-tab |
| 22:30.47 | dauoalagio2 | and ctrl-tab to switch through desktops |
| 22:32.03 | antiroach | from the command line ... |
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| 22:33.11 | Rasi | maybe kwin is accessible through dcop |
| 22:33.28 | Rasi | you can try.. dcop has tab-completion so it should be easy to find out |
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| 22:35.29 | MidNight_SunRay | does anyone know how i can force KDE to mount my portable hd always on /media/LACIE, instead of sda1 or sdb1 ??? |
| 22:35.39 | antiroach | Rasi hmm ill check that out |
| 22:36.21 | lgsobalvarro | MidNight_SunRay: do you mean via dbus/hal into Kio media ? |
| 22:36.36 | MidNight_SunRay | when i plug my hd in |
| 22:36.49 | MidNight_SunRay | i want it always mounted on the same mount point |
| 22:36.54 | MidNight_SunRay | let's say media:///lacie |
| 22:37.11 | MidNight_SunRay | instead of randomly on media sda1 or sdb1 |
| 22:37.15 | MidNight_SunRay | is there a way i can do? |
| 22:37.28 | dauoalagio2 | MidNight_SunRay: it isn't mounted when it is on sda1 or sdb1 |
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| 22:37.37 | dauoalagio2 | mount /dev/sda1 /media/lacie |
| 22:37.46 | MidNight_SunRay | isnt it? |
| 22:37.58 | MidNight_SunRay | i can surf it on sda1 |
| 22:38.02 | MidNight_SunRay | or sdb1 |
| 22:38.17 | dauoalagio2 | er? |
| 22:38.24 | MidNight_SunRay | so it IS mounted |
| 22:38.30 | MidNight_SunRay | even there |
| 22:38.30 | dauoalagio2 | type "umount /dev/sda1" |
| 22:38.37 | MidNight_SunRay | now iìm under gnome |
| 22:38.37 | MidNight_SunRay | i cannot try |
| 22:38.38 | lgsobalvarro | MidNight_SunRay: sda1 or sdb1 are devices. (check /dev ) |
| 22:38.40 | MidNight_SunRay | :D |
| 22:38.44 | dauoalagio2 | are you usubg automount? |
| 22:38.50 | Jejem[away] | dauoalagio2: some automounts stuff keep the sdX name in mountpoints |
| 22:38.51 | dauoalagio2 | using* |
| 22:38.59 | Jejem[away] | like /dev/sda1 is mounted at /mnt/sda1 |
| 22:39.00 | Jejem[away] | ~~ |
| 22:39.01 | apt | Every moment in which I'm called upon is torture. |
| 22:39.05 | MidNight_SunRay | Jejem is right |
| 22:39.10 | dauoalagio2 | Jejem\ |
| 22:39.15 | dauoalagio2 | Jejem[away]: klame |
| 22:39.17 | dauoalagio2 | lame* |
| 22:39.25 | dauoalagio2 | dunno then except don't use automount? |
| 22:39.45 | Jejem[away] | dauoalagio2: i've never user automount stuffs :) |
| 22:39.49 | MidNight_SunRay | but i want it automounted where i want, just like under gnome |
| 22:39.52 | Jejem[away] | i'm just tellin you that sometimes it can happen :) |
| 22:40.08 | Jejem[away] | MidNight_SunRay: /etc/fstab is your friend for that :) |
| 22:40.36 | dauoalagio2 | yes |
| 22:40.48 | MidNight_SunRay | but how can i say if it's considered sda1 or sdb1 or what else, before i boot? |
| 22:40.51 | dauoalagio2 | type /dev/sda1 /media/lacie |
| 22:41.07 | dauoalagio2 | put both in the fstab? is that bad Jejem[away] |
| 22:41.09 | MidNight_SunRay | sometimes it's called sdb1 though |
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| 22:41.25 | MidNight_SunRay | haha dauoalagio2 it'd be ok, but what when i mount another usbdisk? |
| 22:41.30 | MidNight_SunRay | both on /media/LACIE ? |
| 22:41.55 | dauoalagio2 | two devices can't have the same /dev |
| 22:41.56 | lgsobalvarro | dauoalagio2: but if he'll use kio media it dont will work |
| 22:42.05 | dauoalagio2 | wtf is kio media |
| 22:42.16 | MidNight_SunRay | dauoalagio2, if i put them BOTH in fstab |
| 22:42.24 | MidNight_SunRay | they'll have the same mount point though |
| 22:42.29 | lgsobalvarro | dauoalagio2: kio = kde intup/output |
| 22:42.48 | dauoalagio2 | MidNight_SunRay: oh yes that's true. you got me here |
| 22:42.56 | MidNight_SunRay | :) |
| 22:43.06 | dauoalagio2 | it's weird that it's coming out as two devs |
| 22:43.17 | dauoalagio2 | for my machine anyways... |
| 22:43.19 | lgsobalvarro | just type media:/ in konqueror dauoalagio2 |
| 22:43.21 | MidNight_SunRay | is there any rule for choosing which is which? |
| 22:44.01 | dauoalagio2 | maybe you should ask your distro guys? |
| 22:44.11 | dauoalagio2 | what are you on? |
| 22:44.19 | dauoalagio2 | i see lgsobalvarro |
| 22:45.27 | lgsobalvarro | dauoalagio2: and if you're using dbus/hal for auto-mounting things well work via that kio. |
| 22:45.44 | MidNight_SunRay | dauoalagio2, kubuntu |
| 22:45.46 | dauoalagio2 | i'm not an automounter |
| 22:45.53 | lgsobalvarro | MidNight_SunRay: when you connect you're HD KDe ask you what do you whant to do? |
| 22:46.04 | MidNight_SunRay | no it just mounts it |
| 22:46.22 | MidNight_SunRay | although in most cases |
| 22:46.29 | lgsobalvarro | kde dont ask anything? |
| 22:46.31 | MidNight_SunRay | it's already plugged when kde starts |
| 22:46.42 | dauoalagio2 | okay so let me get this straight you want the sda1/sdb1 to become LACIE? |
| 22:46.50 | lgsobalvarro | ahh so dbus make's his work |
| 22:47.00 | MidNight_SunRay | dauoalagio2, yes |
| 22:47.04 | lgsobalvarro | dauoalagio2: he is using dbus/hal ... |
| 22:47.12 | MidNight_SunRay | i want statically mounted there |
| 22:47.13 | dauoalagio2 | hmm |
| 22:47.50 | dauoalagio2 | lgsobalvarro: isn't it weird that it comes up as sdb1 and sda1 randomly? |
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| 22:48.25 | MidNight_SunRay | dauoalagio2, not totally random |
| 22:48.28 | MidNight_SunRay | depending on |
| 22:48.29 | lgsobalvarro | MidNight_SunRay: and is very very hard for you, just type into konqueror location bar this: media:/ and click in to LacieDisk |
| 22:48.38 | MidNight_SunRay | which other usb devices are mounted at the moment |
| 22:48.38 | simone | ce' qualche italiano che mi puo' aiutare? |
| 22:48.42 | lgsobalvarro | dauoalagio2: it isn't. |
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| 22:49.00 | lgsobalvarro | simone: #kde-it or something like that, here only english |
| 22:49.04 | MidNight_SunRay | lgsobalvarro, does it work under gnome too? |
| 22:49.14 | MidNight_SunRay | simone, io.. ma vieni in pv |
| 22:49.36 | lgsobalvarro | MidNight_SunRay: fi you i'll use konqueror in gnome, yes |
| 22:49.44 | MidNight_SunRay | mmm from here |
| 22:49.49 | MidNight_SunRay | it looks like it's all OK |
| 22:50.01 | dauoalagio2 | lgsobalvarro: is there anyway for a /dev to only recognise this device? |
| 22:50.15 | dauoalagio2 | like it have know through dmesg |
| 22:50.17 | simone | midnight non riesco ad andare in pvt |
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| 22:50.46 | MidNight_SunRay | simone, vieni su #kde-it |
| 22:50.53 | simone | ci sono |
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| 22:51.10 | simone | ho installato sabayon stasera ma ho un problema |
| 22:51.29 | MidNight_SunRay | simone, ti cacciano qua se parli italiano, vieni su #kde-it |
| 22:51.36 | lgsobalvarro | dauoalagio2: i dont know well how works dbus/hal. Hey... wait a minute |
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| 22:51.40 | simone | come ci vado? |
| 22:51.46 | gongoputch | taking a poll: Favorite CD labelling program? |
| 22:51.58 | lgsobalvarro | MidNight_SunRay: can you check /etc/fstab file? |
| 22:52.04 | dauoalagio2 | gongoputch: Sharpie! |
| 22:52.24 | pinotree | simone: scrivi /join #kde-it |
| 22:52.28 | MidNight_SunRay | lgsobalvarro, fstab is ok |
| 22:52.28 | gongoputch | don't sharpie on the disk itself tho |
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| 22:52.29 | darkstego | hi all, I have a problem with my dual monitor display. I have two monitors with different resolution, when I maximize windows in the second monitor they maximize to larger than the monitor size. Is there a way to fix this? |
| 22:52.37 | MinceR | felt tip pen |
| 22:52.39 | MidNight_SunRay | it doesnt mention any usb device |
| 22:52.50 | MinceR | though i prefer to avoid writing optical media |
| 22:52.53 | lgsobalvarro | MidNight_SunRay: can you (using pastebin ) paste me all info that it's in that file? |
| 22:52.54 | dauoalagio2 | gongoputch: yes felt tip pen |
| 22:53.05 | gongoputch | MinceR: the ink has been shown to change the nature of the reflective material |
| 22:53.21 | gongoputch | shortening the life of the disk |
| 22:53.22 | MinceR | it changes by itself so it doesn't matter |
| 22:53.28 | gongoputch | lol yea |
| 22:53.29 | MinceR | the entire technology sucks as it is. |
| 22:53.33 | MinceR | especially cd-s |
| 22:53.35 | gongoputch | agreed |
| 22:54.00 | gongoputch | cd-s ? |
| 22:54.00 | MidNight_SunRay | lgsobalvarro, i'm gonna format hd tonight.. anyway, trust me, fstab it's ok.. with all hda devices |
| 22:54.10 | MidNight_SunRay | but no other items |
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| 22:55.50 | lgsobalvarro | MidNight_SunRay: ok, so kubuntu it's mounting you're other HD using dbus/hal. The best thing that you can do is use kio media in konqueror, or visit #kubuntu |
| 22:56.13 | MidNight_SunRay | lgsobalvarro, i'll check it out.. |
| 22:56.16 | MidNight_SunRay | thanks for your help |
| 22:56.21 | dauoalagio2 | MidNight_SunRay: is it too much to ask why you just want it to be called lacie instead of sda1? |
| 22:56.36 | MidNight_SunRay | dauoalagio2, the name doenst matter |
| 22:56.39 | MidNight_SunRay | i just want it |
| 22:56.43 | MidNight_SunRay | to be always the same |
| 22:56.49 | dauoalagio2 | oh all right, well good luck |
| 22:57.00 | MidNight_SunRay | so in my settings it'll always be referred to in a unique fashion |
| 22:57.02 | MidNight_SunRay | got it? |
| 22:57.05 | MidNight_SunRay | ;) |
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| 22:58.29 | lgsobalvarro | MidNight_SunRay: just use media kio. It's easier, that change the name to the devise or something like that. If you don't care the name... what the hell |
| 22:59.14 | MidNight_SunRay | lgsobalvarro, it's annoying when i.e. amule says it cant find the right folders |
| 22:59.32 | MidNight_SunRay | just because the drive had been mounted on another directory... :D |
| 22:59.55 | lgsobalvarro | ohh so you need add that to fstab |
| 22:59.57 | lgsobalvarro | that's it |
| 23:00.28 | MidNight_SunRay | but then |
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| 23:00.36 | lgsobalvarro | just ask in #kubuntu how do that |
| 23:00.38 | MidNight_SunRay | why does it work automatically under gnome? |
| 23:01.10 | lgsobalvarro | becouse you're using dbus/hal services |
| 23:01.21 | MidNight_SunRay | i see |
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| 23:02.01 | pi3 | what do I need to open ms access dbs with kexi? |
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| 23:02.40 | lgsobalvarro | pi3: ms access dbs are suported by kexi? |
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| 23:03.33 | pi3 | lgsobalvarro: I think so, the supported formats include .mdb |
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| 23:04.10 | lgsobalvarro | ohh sorry, yes they are, pi3 . Check this link http://www.kexi-project.org/ . All info that you need about kexi |
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| 23:04.53 | Quintin | How do I change konsole settings? I can't find any buttons to click. I"m using backtrack |
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| 23:05.25 | pi3 | lgsobalvarro: aunque cuando los quiero abrir, me dice "This type is not supported" |
| 23:06.48 | lgsobalvarro | pi3 maybe you don't hace kexi compiled with ms acces dbs support |
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| 23:11.23 | Dark_Apostrophe | The image of a sleeping dragon that one sees when logging off, where is it located? |
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| 23:13.21 | pi3 | does beryl work on kde? |
| 23:13.37 | lgsobalvarro | pi3: yes |
| 23:13.53 | pi3 | lgsobalvarro: hablas español? |
| 23:13.54 | x_link | pi3: Of course. |
| 23:14.31 | lgsobalvarro | pi3 of couse, but here you must speack english. However you can go to #kde-es |
| 23:14.38 | antiroach | is there a way to bring a window to the front (so that it has focus) in KDE from the command line |
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| 23:15.11 | lgsobalvarro | antiroach: i supose that you can, using dcop |
| 23:15.28 | pi3 | lgsobalvarro: I know, but it was kind of weird that you being from co (and me from ar) didn't answer to me in spanish |
| 23:15.36 | antiroach | i looked into that, doesnt seem to have a function to do that unless im missing something |
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| 23:17.06 | lgsobalvarro | antiroach: maybe i realy don't now |
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| 23:17.40 | lgsobalvarro | pi3 you just need to know the rules :) |
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| 23:18.53 | lgsobalvarro | well g2g |
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| 23:40.08 | eifzon | where do i change the keymap in kde? |
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| 23:43.48 | lgsobalvarro | eifzon: kcontrol |
| 23:44.49 | eifzon | lgsobalvarro: but where in ther |
| 23:45.16 | lgsobalvarro | Regional & Accessibility |
| 23:45.22 | lgsobalvarro | Regional & Accessibility, eifzon |
| 23:45.36 | lgsobalvarro | keyboard layout |
| 23:45.50 | eifzon | ok, and where can i change charset |
| 23:45.59 | eifzon | in console |
| 23:46.13 | lgsobalvarro | hoh? |
| 23:46.16 | eifzon | :P |
| 23:47.05 | lgsobalvarro | in console change the keymap for X11? |
| 23:47.14 | lgsobalvarro | or what do you mean? |
| 23:47.43 | eifzon | yeah |
| 23:48.17 | lgsobalvarro | edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf |
| 23:48.35 | lgsobalvarro | more info man xorg or in to #you're-distro |
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| 23:50.26 | eifzon | hehe |
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