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| 00:02.51 | mrigns | i think kubuntu's is called adept update manager :D |
| 00:03.45 | tommas | somebody knows good image viewer for linux, something like "Irfanview" for Win ? |
| 00:03.58 | tommas | what do u view your pics with ? |
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| 00:04.48 | qupada | mrigns: that depends which one you mean. i've been tormented by an ubuntu system this week trying to get xen/kvm/some form of virtualisation on it, i count probably 5 different ways to manage packages |
| 00:05.05 | wolsni | tommas: plenty of image viewers for linux |
| 00:05.33 | wolsni | ones for KDE include gwenview, digikam, kview, kuickshow |
| 00:05.48 | mrigns | qupada, but that's the one which flashes in your systray when your using kubuntu and updates are available |
| 00:05.51 | wolsni | i'm not really familiar with irfanview |
| 00:05.53 | mrigns | at least i think so |
| 00:06.18 | tommas | ok well where can i download some of these u told |
| 00:06.34 | mrigns | tommas, distro? |
| 00:06.36 | wolsni | tommas: kuickshow and kview are included in the kdegraphics package |
| 00:06.40 | Liquid_Fire | install them with your distro's package manager |
| 00:07.11 | tommas | suse 10.2. kwiev is included? let me check if i have installed it |
| 00:08.01 | mrigns | gwenview should be installed in open suse, I think |
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| 00:16.12 | andersin | is there a dedicated kde usability channel? |
| 00:18.15 | icwiener_ | #kde-usability |
| 00:18.47 | andersin | thanks |
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| 00:48.00 | devurandom | Hi! |
| 00:48.54 | MinceR | hi slashless |
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| 00:48.56 | MinceR | :> |
| 00:49.05 | devurandom | Is it possible to tell KNetworkManager that vpnc is /usr/sbin/vpnc and requires the root password? Currently I can setup vpn networks, but can't connect, because the won't appear in the menu... |
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| 00:52.02 | devurandom | Seems like I lost the connection for a while... |
| 00:52.07 | wolsni | devurandom: i'm sure you could just make a script that's in your PATH and does the appropriate thing with kdesu |
| 00:54.35 | devurandom | Hmm... KNetworkManager still doesn't give me any VPNs to choose from... |
| 00:54.56 | devurandom | Only have a grey "Disconnect VPN". |
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| 01:30.20 | Ringwraith` | rm -r ~/.kde |
| 01:30.57 | noran | ack! it destroyed mah computador! |
| 01:31.11 | Ringwraith` | well get a new commordore |
| 01:31.29 | noran | aye, sounds fair |
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| 01:34.07 | Ringwraith` | 2+2 = 4 |
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| 01:35.09 | noran | lim (2+x) x -> 2 = 4 |
| 01:37.14 | DaSkreech__ | Why is it no one is blogging about KDE4 getting kicked? |
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| 01:39.51 | MilesMi | KNode is displaying all dates wrong, and dumping a lot of "QDate::setYMD: Invalid date 0007-09-00" into the console... Is this a known bug? |
| 01:39.54 | noran | kde4 got kicked? |
| 01:40.33 | Ringwraith` | kicked? |
| 01:40.44 | Ringwraith` | oh that happens to a lot of people in here |
| 01:40.45 | DaSkreech__ | Kicked bacl |
| 01:40.49 | DaSkreech__ | kicked back |
| 01:41.13 | noran | ah |
| 01:41.34 | noran | i thought you meant like, the source was discarded and they're starting over |
| 01:41.52 | noran | that would be kinda cool actually |
| 01:41.59 | noran | brand spankin new |
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| 01:43.15 | wolsni | wow, when was it pushed back? |
| 01:43.24 | wolsni | two months seems like quite a delay |
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| 01:44.45 | daskreech | And no one has mentioned it |
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| 01:56.31 | Enders | eh 2 months is not that long |
| 01:56.46 | Enders | and I would rather wait for a solid release then have it release on time and be buggy |
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| 01:58.27 | smileaf2 | o.o |
| 02:00.18 | Jucato | O.o |
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| 02:00.44 | smileaf2 | x.x |
| 02:00.49 | Jucato | :3 |
| 02:00.58 | smileaf2 | remember me saying my computer was on the fritz? =) |
| 02:01.09 | Jucato | yeah |
| 02:01.26 | noran | it finally exploded |
| 02:01.28 | smileaf2 | well.. it won't get past the checking local partitions now.. it just idles. |
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| 02:01.48 | Jucato | lazy fellow... idling when you need it |
| 02:01.59 | smileaf2 | so yay! I'm on a 133Mhz! |
| 02:02.10 | Jucato | wow!! let's race! :3 |
| 02:02.18 | smileaf2 | race? |
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| 02:02.29 | KDEfanboy | anyone know how to make Scroll Lock default back to toggling the led on and off using xmodmap? |
| 02:02.30 | Jucato | tortoise and the hare :) |
| 02:02.36 | smileaf2 | this little 133 has some major power behind it. =p |
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| 02:04.27 | Jucato | naim? is that something like amsn, but for aim? |
| 02:04.40 | smileaf2 | ncurses based aim client. |
| 02:04.57 | Jucato | aaah |
| 02:05.07 | smileaf2 | the only cd I could get to boot right was a DSL one I burnt probably 3 years ago |
| 02:05.07 | Jucato | ey... wonder if there is any CLI IM client out there :) |
| 02:05.33 | smileaf2 | >.> |
| 02:05.43 | smileaf2 | thats pretty much what naim is =p |
| 02:05.50 | smileaf2 | just like this irc client. |
| 02:05.55 | Jucato | well, for other IM's :) |
| 02:05.58 | wolsni | or any irc client + bitlbee |
| 02:06.09 | wolsni | naim actually supports 3 or 4 protocols iirc |
| 02:06.11 | smileaf2 | there is also nirc =p |
| 02:06.16 | Jucato | heheh |
| 02:06.21 | smileaf2 | and nicq |
| 02:06.32 | Jucato | wonder if there's nyahoo :P |
| 02:06.34 | wolsni | that's only three |
| 02:06.45 | wolsni | isn't there a nmsn as well? |
| 02:06.49 | smileaf2 | dunno |
| 02:06.51 | Jucato | noogletalk... |
| 02:07.00 | wolsni | oh, it's nlily |
| 02:07.05 | wolsni | i don't know what lily is |
| 02:07.20 | wolsni | finch should support everything that pidgin does |
| 02:07.22 | smileaf2 | nlily == msn client? |
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| 02:08.07 | wolsni | smileaf2: i think it's some other network |
| 02:08.17 | smileaf2 | oh |
| 02:08.46 | Woosta | Anyone know much about k3b? I have a slot-load DVD burner .. when k3b has finished burning, it ejects the disc and then claims it couldn't. It then won't take it 'back' in order to verify the disk. I assume the 'couldn't eject' message really refers to 'couldn't un-eject'. Surely I'm just missing something simple here .. |
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| 02:09.37 | Jucato | smileaf2: standard HTML view does iirc |
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| 02:10.50 | contrast83 | Greets, everyone... |
| 02:11.42 | contrast83 | Do any of you know of a program like digiKam that's for managing video collections? |
| 02:11.57 | auTONYmous | :frustration: How do I get the "bouncing mouse icon" to be a simple xcursor "watch"? |
| 02:12.17 | contrast83 | auTONYmous: kcontrol -> Peripherals -> Mouse |
| 02:12.22 | wolsni | contrast83: you can manage videos with digikam |
| 02:12.22 | Jucato | er wrong |
| 02:12.36 | Jucato | auTONYmous: KControl -> Appearance & Themes -> Launch Feedback |
| 02:12.56 | contrast83 | wolsni: err... Oh, alright. Heh, thanks. |
| 02:13.00 | Jucato | :) |
| 02:13.32 | contrast83 | Whoops, sorry. |
| 02:13.40 | auTONYmous | done both...apparently KDE does its own thing for launch feedback...the "watch" only applies to a "busy" state, not a "launching app" state |
| 02:13.59 | wolsni | contrast83: you can actually tell digikam which file extensions you want it to handl |
| 02:14.01 | wolsni | *handle |
| 02:14.04 | Jucato | the bouncing cursor only applies to launch app state |
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| 02:14.29 | daskreech | Jucato: gaim has a command line component |
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| 02:14.53 | Jucato | daskreech: component as in client I can use in the shell? |
| 02:14.57 | auTONYmous | screw it...I'll just do without |
| 02:15.16 | wolsni | Jucato: yes, it's called finch |
| 02:15.21 | Jucato | I see |
| 02:15.26 | Jucato | ok thanks. was just curious :) |
| 02:16.14 | contrast83 | wolsni: Thanks. I'll have a look through. Never really took much time with digiKam, been meaning to for quite some time though. |
| 02:16.57 | wolsni | contrast83: it's pretty nice if you take a while to tag your photos |
| 02:17.10 | daskreech | Jucato: Yes exactly |
| 02:17.11 | wolsni | which can be a group activity depending on the group :) |
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| 02:19.03 | contrast83 | wolsni: Well, the pictures and videos I'm dealing with aren't exactly group-suitable. *cough* |
| 02:19.24 | smileaf2 | tsk tsk =p |
| 02:19.25 | wolsni | contrast83: elaboration is unnecessary |
| 02:19.42 | daskreech | Not even for somethree type crowd? |
| 02:20.10 | contrast83 | Now I'm wondering though... Is it possible to make certain albums on there hidden? |
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| 02:20.25 | wolsni | contrast83: not that I'm aware of |
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| 02:20.43 | wolsni | seems like a pretty specialized use case |
| 02:20.58 | daskreech | Jucato: http://nion.modprobe.de/blog/archives/543-Testing-finch-of-pidgin.html |
| 02:21.01 | smileaf2 | wow... I have a little cat running after my mouse and its using 60%+ of my cpu. hehe |
| 02:21.08 | contrast83 | Yeah... 'Cause hardly anyone has porn on their computer. :-P |
| 02:21.09 | daskreech | Neko! :) |
| 02:21.14 | Jucato | daskreech: thanks |
| 02:21.19 | daskreech | contrast83: you'd be surprised :) |
| 02:21.24 | Jucato | smileaf2: amor? |
| 02:21.37 | smileaf2 | oneko |
| 02:21.40 | contrast83 | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:21.51 | daskreech | Someone should do some more amor work |
| 02:21.52 | Jucato | smileaf2: oooh where could I get that!?!? |
| 02:22.04 | smileaf2 | my cursor is the mouse.. and the cat runs after it XD |
| 02:22.11 | Jucato | hehe ok found it |
| 02:22.33 | smileaf2 | its strangly amusing. |
| 02:22.49 | Jucato | it's a cat! chasing a mouse! of course it's amusing! |
| 02:23.03 | smileaf2 | and boy is that mouse quick. |
| 02:23.30 | Jucato | hahaha |
| 02:23.44 | Jucato | it's like a more dynamic amor :) |
| 02:26.10 | smileaf2 | meh.. games need to not using letters for direction arrows. |
| 02:26.57 | Jucato | smileaf2: just for fun, and CPU usage, have you tried the other oneko options? :) |
| 02:27.10 | Jucato | btw how do you stop this thing? hahah |
| 02:27.14 | smileaf2 | only have cat and dog |
| 02:27.27 | smileaf2 | I dunno, my menu has a stop option. |
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| 02:29.39 | Jucato | smileaf2: man oneko |
| 02:29.40 | Jucato | :) |
| 02:30.07 | Jucato | lol it's card captor sakura themed |
| 02:30.09 | contrast83 | Is it possible to set digiKam to not make copies of whatever files you're adding to an album? |
| 02:30.49 | smileaf2 | Jucato: ? |
| 02:31.22 | Jucato | smileaf2: the alternate "cats" for oneko, -sakura and -tomoyo |
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| 02:31.36 | smileaf2 | Fun |
| 02:31.50 | Jucato | -tora is a cat w/ stripes |
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| 02:32.21 | smileaf2 | hehe, and sakura has nekomimi XD |
| 02:32.37 | christopher_ | I have myspaceIM and it is trying to access port 1863 but wont connect, anything i can do? |
| 02:33.14 | smileaf2 | christopher_: yup, you can ask your distribution or the people who make myspaceIM. |
| 02:33.53 | christopher_ | thanks |
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| 02:39.13 | contrast83 | So umm... This oneko thing, is it supposed to actually change the appearance of the cursor? |
| 02:39.45 | Jucato | no. |
| 02:39.58 | daskreech | CPrgmSwR2: Hello |
| 02:40.35 | contrast83 | Ok, just checking. That's what I got from the description ("now a mouse/bone"). |
| 02:41.45 | hyevahn | how do i register a nickname |
| 02:41.49 | smileaf2 | it changed my cursor o.o |
| 02:41.53 | daskreech | Wow |
| 02:42.00 | Jucato | smileaf2: it did? wow you're lucky |
| 02:42.03 | daskreech | Vista SP1 needs at least 7 GB of space |
| 02:42.16 | daskreech | hyevahn: With? |
| 02:42.19 | wolsni | hyevahn: /msg NickServ help |
| 02:42.46 | smileaf2 | with sakura the cursor is a card, tomoyo a heart, cat a mouse not tried the others. |
| 02:42.58 | Jucato | smileaf2: never changed for me :( |
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| 02:43.35 | contrast83 | smileaf2: The cursor itself? Because I see those things *following* the cursor, but the cursor itself is still the same. |
| 02:43.42 | Jucato | ditto... |
| 02:43.46 | Jucato | maybe works only on gentoo :) |
| 02:44.05 | contrast83 | Heh... The advantages of compiling everything. |
| 02:45.49 | daskreech | contrast83: Like lots of free time to do other things |
| 02:46.06 | contrast83 | Bing |
| 02:46.12 | gnoob | My CPU has nothing else to do anyway. |
| 02:46.22 | gnoob | Might as well put it to use doing something. |
| 02:46.41 | daskreech | Firefox takes care of that for me |
| 02:46.49 | gnoob | Ha, nice. |
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| 02:47.44 | smileaf2 | contrast83: it appears to change the mouse here. |
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| 02:49.37 | sabayonlive-9062 | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:50.10 | Jucato | sabayonlive-9062: please ask in #sabayon |
| 02:50.18 | sabayonlive-9062 | ok |
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| 02:56.50 | smileaf2 | I found a way to install or upgrade programs! =) |
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| 02:57.22 | smileaf2 | so now I have naim working! but its too late and no one is online. so I'm still bored.. lol |
| 02:57.23 | Jucato | O.o |
| 02:57.32 | Jucato | aaah dsl.. right.. |
| 02:57.39 | smileaf2 | yah.. liveCd |
| 02:57.52 | smileaf2 | I suppose I could shut it down and install another cdrom drive. |
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| 02:59.03 | smileaf2 | But then I'd have to reconfigure my X so it'll load right. redownload a few things. But I could load stuff from CD ^_^ |
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| 02:59.16 | Jucato | hehehe |
| 02:59.40 | Jucato | I'd hate to be you right now... |
| 03:00.01 | smileaf2 | What? you don't wanna be on a 133MHz 64M ram and no HD? |
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| 03:00.41 | Jucato | nooooo |
| 03:00.50 | Jucato | I don't want to be out of KDE |
| 03:00.52 | Jucato | heheh |
| 03:00.56 | smileaf2 | I got about 42% of my ram left =) |
| 03:01.40 | Jucato | sounds like the good ol' days... which I never really saw |
| 03:01.41 | Jucato | :P |
| 03:02.09 | smileaf2 | Here is something interesting.. If I tell it not to not have icons on my desktop.. it uses _more_ ram. |
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| 03:02.22 | Jucato | lol |
| 03:02.40 | smileaf2 | almost 500k of it. |
| 03:03.17 | Jucato | is there a faster/easier way to "tag" contacs w/ categories in kaddressbook?? |
| 03:04.56 | sleepy | Is anyone here familiar with compiz for sabayon 3.4e? |
| 03:05.20 | sleepy | No one there knows |
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| 03:05.28 | Jucato | O.o |
| 03:05.38 | contrast83 | sleepy: Same for #compiz-fusion ? |
| 03:05.51 | sleepy | I went to #compiz :p |
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| 03:06.14 | mrigns | I'm wondering how #kde is supposed to help you... |
| 03:06.20 | smileaf2 | might all by sleeping. |
| 03:06.24 | sleepy | Cause I'm in a KDE enviroment XD |
| 03:06.34 | Jucato | compiz isn't part of KDE though... |
| 03:06.37 | sleepy | I ran out of places to try XD |
| 03:06.43 | Jucato | and not all KDE'ers know about sabayon :/ |
| 03:06.58 | smileaf2 | never used it and don't really want to either =) |
| 03:07.14 | sabayonlive-1604 | does anyone know how to install a print server in kde? |
| 03:07.15 | Jucato | you gentoo lover you! |
| 03:07.39 | smileaf2 | configure a print server.. or install it? |
| 03:08.03 | sleepy | Well I was hoping for luck XD |
| 03:08.09 | sabayonlive-1604 | well it is asking for the ip address and port |
| 03:08.22 | sabayonlive-1604 | is there a way to ping it? because it didnt come with instructions |
| 03:08.28 | Jucato | sleepy: just musn't be your day :/ |
| 03:08.30 | smileaf2 | if your using cups.. then you need to change the service |
| 03:09.16 | sleepy | Someone in #compiz-fusion is helping, thanks |
| 03:09.44 | smileaf2 | wonder if there is anyway to make a usb flash connect via IDE =) |
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| 03:10.09 | smileaf2 | then at least I could have 1G of space XD |
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| 03:39.30 | gnoob | Can I tell Kopete not inform other people that I am typing? |
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| 04:10.30 | joe_ | hi |
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| 04:13.49 | joe_ | hi. i need help |
| 04:14.06 | joe_ | hello? |
| 04:14.10 | joe_ | hello? |
| 04:14.15 | joe_ | hello? |
| 04:14.21 | smileaf | ask the question then and if someone knows they'll answer |
| 04:14.24 | joe_ | yes |
| 04:14.26 | joe_ | tthnx |
| 04:14.27 | smileaf | flooding the channel will get you kicked. |
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| 04:14.36 | joe_ | I am trying to find the Beryl server |
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| 04:14.40 | joe_ | :) |
| 04:14.46 | smileaf | not a kde question >.> |
| 04:14.54 | smileaf | #beryl ? |
| 04:14.58 | joe_ | I am new to this IRC thing and using Konversation |
| 04:15.18 | joe_ | How do I add a server? |
| 04:15.36 | joe_ | this is freenode... how can i get something else? |
| 04:15.40 | Gentle | the beryl channel is on this same IRC server(network) |
| 04:15.45 | joe_ | ouch |
| 04:15.58 | joe_ | i tried #beryl but it doesnt connect |
| 04:16.28 | joe_ | oh ok. now it forwarded to #compiz-fusion |
| 04:16.33 | Gentle | /join #compiz-fusion is what you want |
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| 04:18.15 | joe_ | oh ok. it works now. :) thanks. i feel stupid |
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| 04:30.16 | gnoob | Hmm, if kopete is not checking my spelling is that a KDE issue or possible something that did not install with gentoo? |
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| 04:59.01 | EvanR | im trying to map win+c to type ĉ instead... im in the input actions menu and i can get every kind of action to work except 'keyboard input' am i doing somethng wrong? |
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| 05:22.12 | sabayonlive-1700 | hello all |
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| 06:24.47 | bookgekgom | ok |
| 06:24.49 | bookgekgom | help |
| 06:24.51 | bookgekgom | anyone |
| 06:24.56 | bookgekgom | my ethernet is f-ed up |
| 06:25.01 | bookgekgom | I dunno what i did |
| 06:25.10 | bookgekgom | but if i type /sbin/ifconfig |
| 06:25.15 | bookgekgom | it shows wrong things |
| 06:25.20 | bookgekgom | but internet is stilll working |
| 06:25.23 | bookgekgom | HELP |
| 06:25.26 | bookgekgom | ~ |
| 06:25.28 | bookgekgom | im dying |
| 06:26.20 | bookgekgom | god |
| 06:26.23 | bookgekgom | noone helps |
| 06:26.24 | bookgekgom | T_T |
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| 06:27.19 | bookgekgom | help |
| 06:27.20 | bookgekgom | T_T |
| 06:27.21 | bookgekgom | TT |
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| 06:31.55 | EvanR | bookgekgom: ?_? |
| 06:32.32 | bookgekgom | ya |
| 06:32.35 | bookgekgom | Eanr |
| 06:32.36 | bookgekgom | T_T |
| 06:32.59 | bookgekgom | evanr |
| 06:33.08 | bookgekgom | i use fedora and having problem with eth |
| 06:33.11 | bookgekgom | can u help? |
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| 06:33.58 | EvanR | what is the problem? youre online right now |
| 06:34.08 | bookgekgom | ya |
| 06:34.11 | bookgekgom | im online |
| 06:34.12 | bookgekgom | but |
| 06:34.14 | bookgekgom | if i type |
| 06:34.20 | bookgekgom | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:34.22 | gmartyn | on fedora, you can use system-config-network |
| 06:34.27 | bookgekgom | it shows wrong names |
| 06:34.32 | bookgekgom | ya |
| 06:34.35 | gmartyn | and system-config-network-tui |
| 06:34.35 | bookgekgom | i also used that |
| 06:34.37 | bookgekgom | and it says |
| 06:34.44 | bookgekgom | i got no such device |
| 06:34.47 | bookgekgom | T-T |
| 06:34.53 | bookgekgom | look at this |
| 06:35.20 | bookgekgom | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:35.25 | bookgekgom | this used to be |
| 06:35.30 | bookgekgom | eth0 |
| 06:35.37 | bookgekgom | not temp76879897879 |
| 06:35.40 | bookgekgom | T-T |
| 06:35.44 | bookgekgom | name has changed |
| 06:35.44 | EvanR | pretty funny :D |
| 06:35.47 | bookgekgom | Lol |
| 06:35.49 | bookgekgom | ya it is |
| 06:35.49 | bookgekgom | and |
| 06:35.51 | bookgekgom | eth1 |
| 06:35.53 | bookgekgom | changed also |
| 06:36.02 | bookgekgom | lo Link encap:Local Loopback |
| 06:36.07 | EvanR | what did you do to mess that up? |
| 06:36.10 | bookgekgom | and wireless is still same |
| 06:36.21 | bookgekgom | and |
| 06:36.23 | bookgekgom | some how i got |
| 06:36.25 | bookgekgom | wmaster0 Link encap:UNSPEC HWaddr 00-12-17-8C-65-6C-A8-86-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00 |
| 06:36.27 | bookgekgom | o_o |
| 06:36.31 | gmartyn | so use systeem-confiig-network to rename them |
| 06:36.33 | bookgekgom | i dunno how i messed it up |
| 06:36.38 | bookgekgom | how ? |
| 06:36.40 | bookgekgom | how to do that? |
| 06:36.50 | gmartyn | click the interface, click edit |
| 06:36.57 | bookgekgom | huh? |
| 06:36.57 | gmartyn | next to nickname is an edit field |
| 06:37.01 | bookgekgom | nono |
| 06:37.04 | bookgekgom | that shows only in |
| 06:37.07 | bookgekgom | text field |
| 06:37.10 | bookgekgom | like |
| 06:37.11 | bookgekgom | if u type |
| 06:37.14 | bookgekgom | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:37.26 | bookgekgom | in /usr/bin/system-config-network |
| 06:37.26 | EvanR | whoaaaaaa can you put more than two words on a line please? |
| 06:37.30 | bookgekgom | it show right name |
| 06:37.45 | bookgekgom | sorry |
| 06:38.03 | bookgekgom | How do I change the name of the devices in terminal? |
| 06:38.16 | bookgekgom | That will be so helpful if u help me |
| 06:38.42 | EvanR | man ifrename ? |
| 06:39.05 | bookgekgom | ah |
| 06:39.06 | bookgekgom | i c |
| 06:39.20 | bookgekgom | can u tell the example? im pretty bad at reading these man things |
| 06:39.21 | bookgekgom | :s |
| 06:39.36 | gmartyn | EvanR: didn't know about that.. thanks :) |
| 06:39.47 | EvanR | ifrename [-c configfile] [-i interface] [-n newname] |
| 06:39.57 | bookgekgom | ya.... |
| 06:39.59 | EvanR | gmartyn: it was the first google result for interface rename |
| 06:40.00 | EvanR | ;) |
| 06:40.01 | bookgekgom | T-T |
| 06:40.14 | bookgekgom | which is configfile and which is interface? |
| 06:40.14 | gmartyn | heh |
| 06:40.39 | bookgekgom | I guess something like ifrename "something config" "tmp&*(^(*%" "newname" |
| 06:40.42 | EvanR | forget the configile |
| 06:40.56 | bookgekgom | forget the config? |
| 06:41.06 | bookgekgom | just type "ifrename oldname newname? |
| 06:41.17 | EvanR | -i tmpwhatever -n eth0 |
| 06:41.25 | bookgekgom | k |
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| 06:41.33 | bookgekgom | do it as root i guess? |
| 06:41.52 | EvanR | one would hope you need root to do that |
| 06:42.10 | gmartyn | lol |
| 06:42.11 | gmartyn | yes |
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| 06:43.10 | EvanR | bookgekgom: according to the man page, it cant be used while the interface is running |
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| 06:43.31 | EvanR | not only that, your init scripts might put it back when you reboot, so this is only a temporary fix |
| 06:43.33 | bookgekgom | [bookgekgom@localhost ~]$ /sbin/ifrename -i wmaster0 -n hehe Error: Can't open configuration file `/etc/iftab': No such file or directory |
| 06:43.43 | bookgekgom | ? |
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| 06:44.40 | EvanR | bookgekgom: did you try to restart the computer |
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| 06:44.46 | bookgekgom | ah |
| 06:44.47 | bookgekgom | didn |
| 06:44.52 | bookgekgom | should i? |
| 06:45.05 | EvanR | if you temporarily changed the interfaces around, rebooting will fix it |
| 06:45.09 | bookgekgom | ah |
| 06:45.11 | bookgekgom | the thing is |
| 06:45.15 | bookgekgom | this happened after i reboot |
| 06:45.20 | bookgekgom | :D |
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| 06:45.28 | EvanR | then you need to check your init scripts |
| 06:45.43 | bookgekgom | How do i check that hard sounded thing? |
| 06:45.53 | EvanR | ? |
| 06:46.00 | bookgekgom | init script |
| 06:46.03 | bookgekgom | how to check it? |
| 06:46.16 | EvanR | im thinking its not standard procedure to mess with init scripts on fedora |
| 06:46.28 | EvanR | but they are probably in /etc/init.d or /etc/rc.d |
| 06:46.35 | bookgekgom | ahah.... |
| 06:46.41 | bookgekgom | man why did this happen to me? |
| 06:46.48 | bookgekgom | i was doing so good to my pc. |
| 06:47.01 | bookgekgom | I was even feeding him with new ram and joy him with new porns |
| 06:47.02 | EvanR | bookgekgom: because you installed something that auto changed the names |
| 06:47.07 | bookgekgom | ya |
| 06:47.11 | bookgekgom | i think the problem is |
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| 06:47.19 | bookgekgom | the wireless programs i installed |
| 06:47.28 | bookgekgom | the problem is i do not remember what i installed |
| 06:47.35 | EvanR | not smart |
| 06:47.37 | bookgekgom | I installed wireless driver + etc |
| 06:47.40 | bookgekgom | ahah |
| 06:47.47 | bookgekgom | im screwed |
| 06:48.26 | EvanR | since your internet is working, the name changes were probably for a reason |
| 06:48.47 | EvanR | so changing them back might actually break it |
| 06:48.53 | bookgekgom | ahah... |
| 06:49.00 | bookgekgom | but this is very retarded |
| 06:49.03 | bookgekgom | in my gui tool |
| 06:49.08 | bookgekgom | i cant touch them at all |
| 06:49.20 | EvanR | lol thats what you get for installing random packages |
| 06:49.21 | bookgekgom | i wonder if there is anyway to update name of devices in gui tool also |
| 06:50.22 | EvanR | try #fedora |
| 06:50.33 | bookgekgom | im not athorized or something |
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| 06:50.47 | EvanR | then authorize |
| 06:50.49 | bookgekgom | linux is not such os ppl must use |
| 06:50.56 | bookgekgom | how to use this thing TT |
| 06:51.00 | bookgekgom | how to athorize? |
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| 06:51.17 | EvanR | <PROTECTED> |
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| 06:52.46 | gmartyn | what caused this to happen? |
| 06:52.57 | bookgekgom | ok |
| 06:53.00 | bookgekgom | i registered |
| 06:53.00 | EvanR | he installed random packages related to wireless |
| 06:53.00 | gmartyn | most people wouldn't notice if their if changed name |
| 06:53.27 | bookgekgom | ah |
| 06:53.31 | EvanR | im not even sure its a problem |
| 06:53.37 | bookgekgom | i check everything everyday |
| 06:53.42 | bookgekgom | like i need to change MAC address |
| 06:53.56 | bookgekgom | then shit happens and i figure out my stupidity |
| 06:54.03 | bookgekgom | and i dunno how to fix it and be in despire |
| 06:54.04 | bookgekgom | T-T |
| 06:54.06 | EvanR | o_O |
| 06:54.07 | bookgekgom | life sucks |
| 06:54.13 | bookgekgom | especially without gf |
| 06:54.22 | Jucato | O.O |
| 06:54.40 | gmartyn | um |
| 06:54.49 | bookgekgom | everything is caused from my hands |
| 06:55.05 | bookgekgom | I should have done something nicer with my hands instead of fingering my pc and kill my times |
| 06:55.07 | bookgekgom | oh god |
| 06:55.08 | bookgekgom | GOD why give me such burden to me? |
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| 06:55.37 | gmartyn | i don't think #kde is the channel for you.. |
| 06:55.52 | bookgekgom | ya |
| 06:55.59 | bookgekgom | since kde is just for kde |
| 06:56.06 | bookgekgom | but yo |
| 06:56.07 | EvanR | #fedora #networking |
| 06:56.19 | bookgekgom | fedora channel is dead, there is no god there, even he was there, im sure he is dead |
| 06:56.26 | bookgekgom | T-T |
| 06:56.36 | gmartyn | heh |
| 06:56.56 | EvanR | well, gods not here either, as far as i know |
| 06:57.08 | bookgekgom | So |
| 06:57.18 | bookgekgom | i will become the god with my Death Note |
| 06:57.21 | bookgekgom | hahahahahaha |
| 06:57.27 | bookgekgom | ah...noone gets it |
| 06:57.40 | Jucato | the anime.... |
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| 06:57.50 | Jucato | or the tv series... |
| 06:57.51 | bookgekgom | ya man! |
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| 06:58.58 | bookgekgom | ok man |
| 06:59.04 | bookgekgom | fedora channel is just doomed |
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| 06:59.22 | EvanR | its called patience / reinstall |
| 06:59.33 | bookgekgom | --- |
| 06:59.37 | bookgekgom | man |
| 06:59.43 | bookgekgom | reinstal this farging fedora again? |
| 06:59.47 | bookgekgom | kills myself |
| 06:59.55 | Jucato | bookgekgom: you have to be patient in trying to get help on IRC. not everyone's on the same timezone as you |
| 07:00.07 | bookgekgom | true |
| 07:00.11 | Jucato | but in #fedora, your nick must be registered to be able to speak |
| 07:00.15 | bookgekgom | i must b in patience |
| 07:00.15 | Jucato | (how restrictive..) |
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| 07:00.20 | bookgekgom | im in fedora |
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| 07:00.47 | Jucato | bookgekgom: yes you can go into fedora, but you can only speak if your nick is registered with this server. |
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| 07:07.12 | bookgekgom | hm |
| 07:07.51 | bookgekgom | oki i checked yum.log |
| 07:08.03 | bookgekgom | looks like ndiswrapper caused all this |
| 07:09.04 | bookgekgom | removing! |
| 07:09.10 | bookgekgom | arg! |
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| 07:12.58 | bookgekgom | fixed |
| 07:13.17 | bookgekgom | :D |
| 07:13.17 | bookgekgom | now im the GOD |
| 07:13.17 | bookgekgom | yay~ |
| 07:13.18 | bookgekgom | lululala |
| 07:13.24 | bookgekgom | anyway thanks for helping all these Whomever i do not remember at all |
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| 09:35.03 | dhq | is there any speech recognition tool for linux |
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| 09:35.46 | perlsyntax | hi |
| 09:35.59 | pinotree | dhq: ##linux |
| 09:36.08 | dhq | well i use kde |
| 09:36.18 | perlsyntax | Is kde easy to upgrade? |
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| 09:36.36 | dhq | pinotree, i need an app for kde |
| 09:37.07 | perlsyntax | cool |
| 09:37.28 | pinotree | perlsyntax: that's something you have to ask to your distro channel, unless you compile kde yourself |
| 09:38.05 | perlsyntax | there is no fedora chat room. |
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| 09:38.09 | pinotree | there is |
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| 09:38.15 | pinotree | tried #fedora ? |
| 09:38.19 | perlsyntax | i try it |
| 09:38.33 | perlsyntax | it not let me in there. |
| 09:39.05 | pinotree | that's something we can't do much about, sorry |
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| 10:35.04 | hedos | Hello. |
| 10:36.12 | hedos | Applications on my computer can render chinese fonts fine (say, my web browser or a text editor). However, the rest of KDE.. for example the applications' title bars or any menu which contains chinese characters will just be rendered as a square box. |
| 10:36.24 | hedos | How can I fix this? |
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| 10:44.48 | weakwire | when beta 2 will be up ? |
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| 10:45.00 | logixoul | see techbase.kde.org |
| 10:45.03 | Mirrakor | 29. August |
| 10:45.07 | Mirrakor | http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.0_Release_Schedule |
| 10:45.40 | weakwire | hmmmmm today is 1 september |
| 10:46.00 | Mirrakor | we've a two months delay.. |
| 10:46.10 | Mirrakor | Hm, that's right, I don't know if Beta 2 is available yet.. |
| 10:46.26 | weakwire | yes i know that but by inserting 2 more betas |
| 10:46.34 | weakwire | ok |
| 10:46.54 | logixoul | Mirrakor, weakwire: 29 august is the tagging date |
| 10:47.02 | logixoul | add a week to that and you get the release date |
| 10:47.11 | Mirrakor | :) |
| 10:47.31 | weakwire | hmmmmm |
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| 10:51.17 | Mirrakor | will there be a 3.5.8 relese of KDE? |
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| 10:53.21 | MilesAway | does konqueror support any sort of sshfs thing? |
| 10:53.27 | MilesAway | or do i have to mount by hand liek |
| 10:55.17 | feindbild | MilesAway: fish:// |
| 10:57.05 | feindbild | MilesAway: if you have lisa running and configured you can even see it in the network browser ... |
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| 10:59.15 | icwiener | Mirrakor: Most likely yes, somewhere around early October, iirc. |
| 10:59.42 | Mirrakor | icwiener: is there an announcement somewhere? |
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| 11:00.49 | icwiener | Mirrakor: I only found stuff on the mailing lists. |
| 11:01.01 | Mirrakor | Have a link? :) |
| 11:01.28 | icwiener | Mirrakor: e.g. http://mail.kde.org/pipermail/release-team/2007-June/000354.html |
| 11:01.35 | Mirrakor | thx :) |
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| 11:19.43 | KRF | hey, i don't what happened, but my konqueror is having a very high IO usage when opening new tabs or firing up the app. this happens recently. maybe it's caused by a new kernel (2.6.20->2.6.22). do you have any idea? |
| 11:20.23 | KRF | when switching between tabs there's a delay between 1-2 seconds, too |
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| 12:44.24 | Torin | dcop knotify default notify eventname appname 'omg' |
| 12:44.30 | Torin | Not enough arguments (expected 3, got 3). |
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| 12:59.33 | vlt | Hello. In which file does KDE store the user depending settings for screen resolution and monitor freq? |
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| 13:17.27 | csc` | does kde have a tool somewhere to convert konqueror archives to 'windows' web archives? |
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| 13:45.52 | cmacis | hi all. I'm trying to customise konsole. I want it to run fortune when konsole is opened. What file do I need to edit? |
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| 13:47.13 | Skrot- | Edit the session and add fortune in the "Execute:"-field |
| 13:48.12 | Skrot- | hm, that exits the session once fortune is done |
| 13:48.50 | Skrot- | In that case, you might have to add it to bashrc, but then it will run fortune even when it's not konsole youre using |
| 13:49.26 | cmacis | thanks :) |
| 13:51.17 | csc` | real men use .bashrc :) |
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| 13:52.17 | Skrot- | cmacis: Or you could add "fortune && bash" in the Exectue field :) |
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| 13:54.52 | csc` | hi |
| 13:55.20 | lokpest | so, what do happen if you delete ~/.kde |
| 13:56.11 | csc` | it deletes your config |
| 13:56.13 | Liquid_Fire | you delete all your kde configuration |
| 13:56.27 | lokpest | um, yeah |
| 13:56.29 | csc` | .kde includes all kde 'specific' configuration data aswell as some application data |
| 13:56.43 | csc` | if you're running kde at the time it regenerates the cache files |
| 13:57.06 | lokpest | had a problem a while ago that solved that way |
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| 13:57.35 | lokpest | the system locked up when loggin in |
| 13:57.53 | csc` | i usually backup then delet |
| 13:57.54 | csc` | e |
| 13:58.04 | lokpest | when giving password it just bounced you back to logg in screen |
| 13:58.41 | lokpest | just deleted it and remade how I wanted the desktop to look |
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| 13:59.06 | lokpest | not sure why it happened thou |
| 14:00.23 | LnxSlck | hi |
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| 14:27.31 | andrea | hi |
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| 14:28.14 | andrea | HUUU?? |
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| 14:28.35 | pinotree | andrea: if you have any questions, just ask them |
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| 14:34.52 | andrea | thanks |
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| 15:10.28 | Ace2016 | Hi all |
| 15:10.39 | Ace2016 | Does kde have a font preview app? or a font manager? |
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| 15:10.52 | Daverocks | Ace2016: fonts:/ |
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| 15:10.55 | wolsni | Ace2016: yes, there's a font manager in kcontrol |
| 15:11.11 | Ace2016 | something that'll show what a bit of text i type will look like in every font on the system? |
| 15:11.15 | wolsni | or you can view available fonts by typing "fonts:/" in the location bar in konqueror |
| 15:11.26 | Ace2016 | my amount of fonts are getting hard to manage |
| 15:11.30 | sikker | how the heck do I turn off these annoying 'pling' sounds that occurs all the time? they're driving me mad |
| 15:11.41 | Daverocks | sikker: when do they occur? |
| 15:11.56 | wolsni | if you set konqueror to preview mode then it will show thumbnails for all the fonts in fonts:/ |
| 15:11.58 | Daverocks | sikker: like, when you do what kind of action? |
| 15:12.09 | sikker | Daverocks: actually I'm not sure. Seems to be every time I tab through windows, but also some times when I just idle |
| 15:12.14 | sikker | darn annoying |
| 15:12.24 | Ace2016 | wolsni: i know, but i need something to preview text i want |
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| 15:12.51 | Daverocks | sikker: well you can check in sounds and multimedia -> system notifications to see if it's some action there |
| 15:13.18 | Daverocks | sikker: or is it like a system beep? |
| 15:13.18 | sikker | Daverocks: was there and turned off sound-notifications on everything |
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| 15:13.30 | sikker | no it's like an annoying bit of music |
| 15:13.31 | smacnay1 | Is there a kde equivalent to ekiga? |
| 15:13.33 | Ace2016 | is it that speaker in the computer? |
| 15:13.41 | redico | hi all, pls - how to configure krusader in the kcontrol options - to make it actually start if a klick associated files ??? |
| 15:13.45 | wolsni | smacnay1: there's twinkle, but it doesn't do video |
| 15:13.51 | smacnay1 | wolsni: thanks |
| 15:14.04 | sikker | like a single tab on a piano or something like that |
| 15:14.11 | sikker | although it sounds synthetic |
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| 15:14.18 | wolsni | redico: if you want to set the default file manager, associate it with the inode/directory mime type |
| 15:14.26 | sikker | like a badly tuned piano ^ ^ |
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| 15:14.34 | Daverocks | sikker: sure it's not the system beep? :P (from the internal speaker) |
| 15:14.40 | sikker | it's no system beep |
| 15:14.44 | sikker | it's from the speakers |
| 15:14.56 | sikker | when I turn off the speakers the sound dissappears |
| 15:15.05 | redico | wolsni: then what ? |
| 15:15.08 | redico | pls |
| 15:15.17 | wolsni | redico: that's all you should need |
| 15:15.20 | smacnay1 | wolsni: I am not sure I want to find a webcam for linux or not. |
| 15:15.23 | Ace2016 | like in konsole when you press backspace on an empty line? |
| 15:15.31 | smacnay1 | I don't mind just voice for now. |
| 15:15.38 | sikker | Daverocks: I realize that it comes every time I switch workspace |
| 15:15.45 | Ace2016 | settings > bell > none |
| 15:15.48 | sikker | a different tune every time |
| 15:15.49 | Ace2016 | (in konsole) |
| 15:15.51 | Daverocks | sikker: oh yes i remember that, i had that sound as well |
| 15:15.52 | wolsni | smacnay1: cool, I've never used twinkle though so I can't comment on reliability |
| 15:15.55 | Daverocks | sikker: pager makes it |
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| 15:16.21 | Daverocks | sikker: there must be a way to tell pager to turn it off |
| 15:16.24 | redico | wolsni: i said to innode directorys with /usr/bin/krusader ===> but if i click --- krusader loads ... but i guess the commandSHAME is false in kcontrol |
| 15:16.31 | redico | but i am not so sure |
| 15:17.02 | wolsni | redico: if you have it set to launch krusader, that's what it will do |
| 15:17.08 | wolsni | did I misunderstand your question? |
| 15:17.10 | redico | so i mean it loads and nothing happens afterwars |
| 15:17.28 | wolsni | oh, i see |
| 15:17.46 | redico | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:18.07 | redico | i doubt that is right - could not check with google |
| 15:18.13 | sikker | Daverocks: can't seem to find any option for that |
| 15:18.16 | wolsni | i'm not familiar with the placeholders in those shortcuts |
| 15:18.18 | Daverocks | sikker: neither |
| 15:18.23 | redico | okay |
| 15:18.28 | redico | thx anyway |
| 15:18.29 | wolsni | i think there should be a %u for the filename though |
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| 15:25.35 | sikker | anyone knows how to kill KPager-sounds? |
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| 15:27.07 | logixoul | sikker: check KPager's context menu, if any |
| 15:27.28 | sikker | logixoul: context menu? |
| 15:27.32 | logixoul | rightclick |
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| 15:27.40 | sikker | no sound-options whatsoever |
| 15:28.17 | logixoul | "configure notifications" or something? |
| 15:28.39 | logixoul | if not, KControl->sounds and multimedia->system notification |
| 15:28.40 | logixoul | s |
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| 15:29.36 | sikker | logixoul: I've already turned off all sound-notifications there |
| 15:29.39 | sikker | but no go |
| 15:29.50 | logixoul | hmm |
| 15:30.08 | logixoul | what sound do you hear? |
| 15:30.18 | logixoul | bleh |
| 15:30.26 | logixoul | (Å__Å) |
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| 15:30.48 | logixoul | what sound do you hear? |
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| 15:37.07 | Anonycat | Is the KDE "Cookie Jar" anything like Firefox's "Add n Edit Cookies" addon? |
| 15:37.43 | smileaf | try it and find out? |
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| 15:38.47 | Anonycat | looks good enough |
| 15:39.54 | Anonycat | trying to switch from Firefox to Konqueror, and looking to see what would be lost in the switch |
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| 15:42.05 | lontra | Anonycat: bloat? |
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| 15:43.39 | logixoul | heh |
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| 15:46.04 | Anonycat | consolidation of tasks--I already have Konqueror open with a bunch of file-browsing tabs already; may as well get more use out of it |
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| 15:46.43 | Anonycat | not going to accuse FF of bloat yet, but I would like to see what happens to the system resources when it's no longer in use |
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| 15:49.02 | lontra | Anonycat: well i open konqueror here in under half of a second and it takes about firefox about 7 seconds here |
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| 15:49.11 | aleksanteri | hey |
| 15:49.15 | lontra | yeh |
| 15:49.32 | aleksanteri | on the desktop, when you right click something there's that "Actions" menu, how can you edit these actions? |
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| 15:54.21 | logixoul | aleksanteri: google konqueror service menus |
| 15:54.27 | aleksanteri | ok |
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| 15:57.23 | gnoob | Can I tell Kopete to not not automaticaly mark me as idle? I want it to show me as online unless I tell it I am idle. |
| 15:57.26 | gnoob | or away |
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| 16:00.15 | Ace2016 | anyone know an app that'll show what a bit of sample text that i type will look like in every font on the system? |
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| 16:10.48 | lontra | is there a way to make pictures come up in kmail? and get rid of the NO HTML MESSAGE on the side of emails? |
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| 16:12.02 | lontra | like in thunderbird that is |
| 16:13.07 | logixoul | lontra: yes, look in the config for something like "default to html" or "prefer html" |
| 16:13.11 | logixoul | same for images |
| 16:13.11 | logixoul | iir |
| 16:13.15 | logixoul | iirc :) |
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| 16:13.23 | lontra | ok |
| 16:13.44 | logixoul | sikker: hey, is sikker your real name? |
| 16:14.04 | sikker | logixoul: sikker is my middlename |
| 16:14.08 | logixoul | ah ok |
| 16:14.19 | sikker | it means 'secure' or 'safe' in my language |
| 16:14.41 | logixoul | ah. I kept reading as 'sicker' ;) |
| 16:14.47 | sikker | heh |
| 16:15.39 | csc` | syker |
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| 16:19.40 | lordnps | Hi there, anyone can tell me common reasons why KDE won't show icons in desktop? |
| 16:19.58 | wolsn1 | lordnps: you disabled icons on the desktop? |
| 16:20.10 | lordnps | wolsn1: nope |
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| 16:20.20 | wolsn1 | is kdesktop running? |
| 16:20.26 | lordnps | yeah |
| 16:20.36 | wolsn1 | do you get a menu when you right click on the desktop? |
| 16:20.45 | lordnps | yes |
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| 16:20.54 | wolsn1 | is the appropriate path for the desktop set in kcontrol? |
| 16:21.06 | lordnps | mhm, not sure :\ |
| 16:21.18 | Ace2016 | I can't believe no on knew about the kde font installer in kcontrol |
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| 16:21.23 | Ace2016 | :/ |
| 16:21.29 | Ace2016 | it does what i wanted |
| 16:21.30 | wolsn1 | check on that, although I've never had mine altered by anything |
| 16:21.32 | lordnps | well how do you know the path? |
| 16:21.44 | lordnps | and how do you change it? |
| 16:21.46 | wolsn1 | lordnps: there's a section in kcontrol called "paths" |
| 16:21.55 | lordnps | thanks, i'll check then |
| 16:23.12 | lordnps | wolsn1: the path is fine, it must be something else... |
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| 16:23.32 | wolsn1 | lordnps: okay, braindead answer: have you tried restarting kdesktop? |
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| 16:23.40 | wolsn1 | dcopquit kdesktop; kdesktop& |
| 16:23.45 | lordnps | wolsn1: yes :) several times |
| 16:24.08 | wolsn1 | check with your distro for bugs then |
| 16:24.17 | lordnps | mhm, could it be related to beryl? |
| 16:24.17 | wolsn1 | (aka I have no clue ;) ) |
| 16:24.36 | wolsn1 | well kdesktop can cause beryl to have problems |
| 16:24.42 | wolsn1 | dunno if it goes the other way |
| 16:24.56 | logixoul | lordnps: I think it's worth asking in #beryl about it |
| 16:25.24 | lordnps | mhm, beryl works fine, but I used to have icons, then came beryl and the icons were gone.. now even if I start without beryl the icons still aren't there... |
| 16:26.17 | lordnps | thus I thinks this is a paranormal phenomena, I ll consider consultinga psychique |
| 16:26.34 | logixoul | heh |
| 16:26.59 | lordnps | oh, no one with my distro seams to have this problem, hence I thought it to be kde related |
| 16:27.05 | wolsn1 | lordnps: maybe you should create a new account and if kdesktop icons work there, diff the config files |
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| 16:27.24 | lordnps | yeah, i ll try that :) it may just work |
| 16:27.54 | logixoul | wolsn1: that will be a monster of a diff in any case :p |
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| 16:28.16 | wolsn1 | i was thinking just the kdesktop config |
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| 16:28.24 | logixoul | ah. right. |
| 16:28.27 | wolsn1 | diffing ~/.kde might be a bit much :) |
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| 16:32.13 | sikker | how do I enable window shadows? |
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| 16:41.41 | sikker | What is the command for starting konq with a specified view profile? |
| 16:42.08 | sikker | if I want to start konq in 'development' view profile, for example |
| 16:42.08 | wolsn1 | sikker: for pretty much all kde apps, you can do app --help to find this stuff out |
| 16:44.10 | animesh | yup self help is the best help :) |
| 16:45.40 | sikker | I see |
| 16:45.46 | sikker | well, thank you anyway :P |
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| 16:46.19 | sikker | Hmm.. What I can't seem to find is -- how'd I make the profile remember the position of the window? Because there's only an entry for remembering size |
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| 16:49.39 | sikker | what help-entry must I look at in order to see what command to invoke to start a program with certain geometry? |
| 16:51.25 | Jucato | silverk: try something like <appname> --help |
| 16:52.20 | eternaleye | sikker: --help-all ought to be useful - there's also --help-qt and --help-kde. --geometry is in --help-kde |
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| 16:52.54 | sikker | I see |
| 16:52.55 | sikker | thank you |
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| 16:53.28 | i0nC4nn0n | hello |
| 16:53.43 | i0nC4nn0n | i'm a n00b and i have a VERY VERY VERY stupid question |
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| 16:56.18 | Ace2016 | Hi all i need help |
| 16:56.25 | sikker | Ace2016: don't ask to ask |
| 16:56.27 | sikker | just ask |
| 16:56.30 | wolsn1 | i0nC4nn0n: you neither |
| 16:56.32 | i0nC4nn0n | hello.... |
| 16:56.33 | i0nC4nn0n | so.... |
| 16:56.39 | i0nC4nn0n | sorry...there waz an x restart |
| 16:56.45 | Ace2016 | its taking a LONG TIME to copy fonts, its going at 25KB/s!!!! thats slower than my download speed :| |
| 16:56.50 | Ace2016 | what is wrong??? |
| 16:56.51 | sikker | i0nC4nn0n: first of all: no l33t sp33k. |
| 16:57.05 | sikker | Ace2016: secondly: don't overdo !'s and ?'s please |
| 16:57.15 | i0nC4nn0n | sikker, wouldn't do that evah! |
| 16:57.24 | Ace2016 | ok?? |
| 16:57.51 | sikker | i0nC4nn0n: look at your name and your spelling, please. 'evah' and 'waz' is not correct english and is, if anything, just plain annoying. |
| 16:57.55 | i0nC4nn0n | first of all: english is not my native language so plz forgive my stupid spelling and or grammer |
| 16:58.14 | i0nC4nn0n | second of all: i'm a REALLY REALLY big noob so don't laf at me |
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| 16:58.32 | sikker | i0nC4nn0n: I respect bad spelling, but intended bad spelling is just stupid. And nobody's laughing at your questions |
| 16:58.40 | sikker | the worst that can happen is that noone answers |
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| 16:58.58 | sikker | But I have to dine now, so good luck |
| 16:59.33 | i0nC4nn0n | so, here it comes: |
| 16:59.40 | i0nC4nn0n | i have sabayon |
| 16:59.45 | Ace2016 | i wish kde could copy fonts faster into fonts :/ |
| 16:59.53 | i0nC4nn0n | by default it has 2 panels |
| 16:59.59 | i0nC4nn0n | one up and one down |
| 17:00.21 | i0nC4nn0n | while loading compiz i accidentaly did something (due to the lag and stuff) so the upper one disapeard |
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| 17:00.28 | i0nC4nn0n | i wannt it back |
| 17:00.50 | i0nC4nn0n | it had a thingie like in windows the "system tray" near the clock |
| 17:00.52 | wolsn1 | i0nC4nn0n: that's pretty easy, just right click on the existing panel and choose "add panel" from the menu |
| 17:01.02 | i0nC4nn0n | i can't finde it cuz i dun't no its name |
| 17:01.11 | i0nC4nn0n | wolffc, i did that |
| 17:01.12 | wolsn1 | or you can just choose "add applet" and add the system tray to your current panel |
| 17:01.15 | i0nC4nn0n | but it's an empty one |
| 17:01.25 | Ace2016 | so add stuff to it |
| 17:01.43 | wolsn1 | okay, to add the applets back right click on the panel you want to add to and choose add applet |
| 17:01.44 | i0nC4nn0n | i can find all applets that where there (clock, desktop tingy, and so on) but cant find the systray tingy... |
| 17:01.55 | i0nC4nn0n | wolsn1, continue... |
| 17:02.17 | wolsn1 | hm, i forget what the exact name of the system tray applet is |
| 17:02.20 | Ace2016 | its called system tray |
| 17:03.43 | i0nC4nn0n | Ace2016, u sure? |
| 17:03.55 | i0nC4nn0n | i can't fine it... |
| 17:04.16 | Ace2016 | what distro? it is in kubuntu |
| 17:04.33 | wolsn1 | i0nC4nn0n: try typing tray into the search box at the top of the applet list |
| 17:04.44 | Ace2016 | unless you already have it in a panel |
| 17:04.49 | i0nC4nn0n | Ace2016, it is sabayon, a gentoo based distro |
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| 17:05.13 | i0nC4nn0n | wolsn1, i don't have it already, and "tray" gives me no results |
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| 17:06.27 | Ace2016 | well that panel that you said disappeared could be hidden |
| 17:06.55 | Ace2016 | right click on the panel > configure and see if its there in the dropdown list at the top |
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| 17:08.09 | i0nC4nn0n | nope |
| 17:08.12 | i0nC4nn0n | there are only two |
| 17:08.30 | i0nC4nn0n | wait a minute |
| 17:08.32 | i0nC4nn0n | my bad |
| 17:08.34 | i0nC4nn0n | three panels |
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| 17:08.48 | i0nC4nn0n | main panel (i supose its the downer one) |
| 17:08.52 | i0nC4nn0n | panel |
| 17:08.56 | i0nC4nn0n | and another panel |
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| 17:09.08 | i0nC4nn0n | one of them is the one i added now, the empty one |
| 17:09.17 | i0nC4nn0n | and the other one....how do i... unhide it? |
| 17:09.33 | Ace2016 | go to hiding on the left side |
| 17:10.05 | i0nC4nn0n | LOL |
| 17:10.07 | i0nC4nn0n | i'm so stupid |
| 17:10.21 | i0nC4nn0n | it was behind the "main panel" |
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| 17:11.14 | i0nC4nn0n | thank you guys |
| 17:11.26 | i0nC4nn0n | ...and onece again forgive my noobnes... |
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| 17:12.00 | i0nC4nn0n | Ace2016, i have some other stupid question if u don't mind... |
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| 17:13.03 | Ace2016 | what is it? |
| 17:13.43 | i0nC4nn0n | how do i get some apps to start when x starts? |
| 17:13.58 | wolsn1 | i0nC4nn0n: in konqueror, Go->Autostart |
| 17:14.02 | i0nC4nn0n | like in windows the "start up" in the start menu\all programs\ folder? |
| 17:14.13 | wolsn1 | then drag the apps you want to autostart from the k menu into that folder |
| 17:14.34 | i0nC4nn0n | wolsn1, it redirects me here, is that correct: /home/qlr/.kde/Autostart/ ? |
| 17:14.41 | wolsn1 | yep |
| 17:14.41 | Ace2016 | interesting addition to kde, never seen that before |
| 17:14.46 | Ace2016 | Thats correct |
| 17:14.49 | i0nC4nn0n | hehe |
| 17:14.54 | i0nC4nn0n | i will manage from here, thx |
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| 17:15.14 | wolsn1 | you can put .desktop shortcuts or executables in that folder |
| 17:15.19 | wolsn1 | or symbolic links to those |
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| 17:15.51 | jampol | hola alguien que conozca sobre sabayon? |
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| 17:16.07 | Jucato | jampol: #sabayon |
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| 17:16.10 | Jucato | Ace2016: what addition? |
| 17:16.20 | Ace2016 | the autostart thing |
| 17:16.28 | Jucato | huh? |
| 17:16.45 | Ace2016 | go > Autostart, i don't have that |
| 17:16.51 | Jucato | lol Kubuntu |
| 17:16.59 | Jucato | it's on default/vanilla KDE :) |
| 17:17.11 | Jucato | so it's not an addition. Kubuntu just removed it :P |
| 17:17.32 | wolsn1 | apparently that is not usable? |
| 17:17.40 | wolsn1 | is there an autostart manager in kubuntu? |
| 17:17.51 | Jucato | what's not usable? |
| 17:18.03 | Jucato | smileaf made an autostart control module. in kde-apps.org |
| 17:18.28 | wolsn1 | Jucato: isn't the rationale for kubuntu's tweaks usually usability? |
| 17:18.51 | Jucato | they're not perfect :) |
| 17:19.02 | Jucato | they threw out the baby together with the tub |
| 17:19.16 | Ace2016 | oh wel have kcontrol-autostart in the repos, they must just expect people to look for that sort of thing in kcontrol |
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| 17:19.59 | Jucato | more like they don't really expect people to look for an autostart manager and rely on KDE's (useful?) session management |
| 17:20.09 | Ace2016 | i'm going to have to leave my pc on overnight to copy fonts :( |
| 17:20.56 | Ace2016 | me too |
| 17:21.10 | Ace2016 | wait a sec |
| 17:21.20 | Ace2016 | it has to be an app, nothing else can be run :D |
| 17:21.45 | Jucato | i think the rationale was that most normal users want to autostart apps, not scripts... which session management can do.. |
| 17:21.45 | wolsn1 | i don't think anyone would consider ls an app rather than a utility |
| 17:21.50 | i0nC4nn0n | okay... |
| 17:21.51 | Jucato | but like I said, no one's perfect :) |
| 17:21.54 | wolsn1 | much less my wrapper script for xrandr |
| 17:22.10 | i0nC4nn0n | wolsn1, symlink is something like a shorcut am i right? |
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| 17:22.14 | Ace2016 | ls running on startup? |
| 17:22.28 | Ace2016 | yea |
| 17:22.29 | wolsn1 | well, anyone that can create a script ought to be able to find the autostart dir without having to drag and drop |
| 17:22.32 | Ace2016 | but much much more |
| 17:22.46 | i0nC4nn0n | i hope i can relate to windows....i used to that.... |
| 17:22.49 | wolsn1 | i0nC4nn0n: similar to a windows shortcut, yes |
| 17:23.12 | i0nC4nn0n | wolsn1, okay, thatn one liddle problem i have...where the heck is the "program files"? :D |
| 17:23.32 | wolsn1 | i0nC4nn0n: go to konqueror and type in "man:hier" for the location |
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| 17:23.52 | Ace2016 | if you link /work to /home/ace/work then /work/file.odt can be accessed from /home/ace/work/file.odt |
| 17:24.04 | Ace2016 | which a windows shortcut cannot do |
| 17:24.16 | wolsn1 | i0nC4nn0n: also might be a good idea to familiarize yourself with your distro's package manager |
| 17:24.24 | i0nC4nn0n | Ace2016, so you can symlinc like... directoryes? |
| 17:24.46 | wolsn1 | i0nC4nn0n: directories or files, yes |
| 17:24.50 | i0nC4nn0n | wolsn1, i belive i have bigger issues... |
| 17:25.00 | wolsn1 | what bigger issues? |
| 17:25.43 | Jucato | that he was leaving? :) |
| 17:25.43 | i0nC4nn0n | wolsn1, the whole concept of don't haveing drives and all the new stuff is a bit sacrry... |
| 17:25.54 | wolsn1 | i0nC4nn0n: ah |
| 17:26.11 | wolsn1 | mount points are basically analogous, i0nC4nn0n |
| 17:26.28 | i0nC4nn0n | wolsn1, so i will elaborate what i will do you will step-by-step me throu, and maybee i will be able to do it all by miselft next time, okay? :D |
| 17:26.32 | pinotree | i0nC4nn0n: it's scary because you know another way of working |
| 17:26.57 | pinotree | if you would have lernt linux first, the windows way would be scary |
| 17:27.00 | pinotree | *learnt |
| 17:27.18 | wolsn1 | if you have learnt linux at all the windows way is kind of scary :) |
| 17:27.29 | i0nC4nn0n | pinotree, i grew up working with dos/windows...never had a linux box ever...so yep...its scary...cause everything is there but than again i can't fine nothing.... |
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| 17:28.04 | derek__ | i0nC4nn0n: think one large drive with a root directory. your stuff is usually in /home/[username] |
| 17:28.45 | derek__ | i0nC4nn0n: most of the other folders such as /boot, /usr , /lib etc are of importance to the system and handled by the distribution |
| 17:28.48 | i0nC4nn0n | wolsn1, so, here i go: there is something called yakuake, it's an app that is like a konsole but howers down form the upper part of the screen just like in quake or other shooters....and i want that to autostart with kde |
| 17:28.56 | wolsn1 | right, I use yakuake |
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| 17:29.09 | derek__ | i0nC4nn0n: /etc contains system configuration and startup files that you may edit with caution and trepidation |
| 17:29.46 | i0nC4nn0n | so, beeing a noob i belive first thing is to familiarise myself with the konsole (commands syntax etc.) |
| 17:29.50 | derek__ | i0nC4nn0n: hidden files and folders look like /home/[username]/.kde for example, which contains all the kde type stuff |
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| 17:30.03 | i0nC4nn0n | (even now i play music with mplayer) |
| 17:30.09 | wolsn1 | i0nC4nn0n: actually, by default, KDE will autostart whatever was running the last time you logged out |
| 17:30.16 | derek__ | i0nC4nn0n: it isn't complicated really |
| 17:30.26 | wolsn1 | i0nC4nn0n: so to get yakuake to start on login you just have to not close it :) |
| 17:30.31 | i0nC4nn0n | derek__, plz continue, i read it, just can't repply anyithing usual... :D |
| 17:30.35 | i0nC4nn0n | *usefull |
| 17:30.52 | wolsn1 | i0nC4nn0n: what derek__ is saying is basically the contents of man:hier |
| 17:31.05 | i0nC4nn0n | yep....i see.... |
| 17:31.20 | i0nC4nn0n | so everithing with a dot in front is hidden |
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| 17:31.34 | i0nC4nn0n | only files or folders to? |
| 17:31.36 | derek__ | i0nC4nn0n: symbolic links are not familiar to window's users since they have only recently become available |
| 17:31.39 | wolsn1 | everything |
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| 17:32.05 | wolsn1 | i0nC4nn0n: files and folders with a . at the beginning are hidden |
| 17:32.12 | i0nC4nn0n | wolsn1, i belive this distro doesn't work that way, but i'm fine with that, i don't like that it remembers my running apps.... |
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| 17:32.22 | wolsn1 | i0nC4nn0n: okay |
| 17:32.34 | i0nC4nn0n | derek__, yep...in vista there are somethings like that... |
| 17:32.37 | derek__ | i0nC4nn0n: if you open konsole, run ls -al and you will see permissions, hidden files, etc |
| 17:32.51 | wolsn1 | so you have an entry on your menu like Utilities->Yakuake right? |
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| 17:33.36 | i0nC4nn0n | wolffc, in my menu....? what menu? |
| 17:33.44 | wolsn1 | your K menu |
| 17:33.50 | wolsn1 | the big K on the panel? |
| 17:34.15 | i0nC4nn0n | wolsn1, it's the distros logo on it, but i know what u mean... |
| 17:34.49 | wolsn1 | anyway, find yakuake on that menu and drag it into the autostart directory |
| 17:35.01 | i0nC4nn0n | wolsn1, found it, should i copy it to autostart? |
| 17:35.06 | i0nC4nn0n | :)) |
| 17:35.07 | wolsn1 | yep |
| 17:35.35 | jpsalova | where's the autostart directory? |
| 17:35.43 | i0nC4nn0n | okay okay...lemme check if it workx.... |
| 17:35.48 | wolsn1 | jpsalova: in konqueror, Go->Autostart |
| 17:35.54 | i0nC4nn0n | jpsalova, /home/username/.kde/Autostart/ |
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| 17:36.02 | jpsalova | Thanks. |
| 17:36.18 | i0nC4nn0n | okay....restarting x.... |
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| 17:37.28 | i0nC4nn0n | joy |
| 17:37.30 | i0nC4nn0n | thx wolsn1 |
| 17:38.06 | i0nC4nn0n | okay |
| 17:38.09 | i0nC4nn0n | another tricky one |
| 17:38.29 | winbond | does anyone know if i can specify on which core to run cpuburn or how i can run it on all cores at the same time? |
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| 17:38.50 | i0nC4nn0n | winbond, in windows with superpi i could help you.... |
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| 17:39.11 | i0nC4nn0n | in this i don't even know how to check the fan speeds... |
| 17:39.49 | winbond | i0nC4nn0n, yeah, i got tired of windows, now i have to relearn everything |
| 17:39.55 | secleinteer | does anyone know what would cause yellow colored static when playing a x264-encoded 720p matroska video in kaffeine? |
| 17:39.56 | i0nC4nn0n | wolsni, so i have another rather tryicky one |
| 17:39.59 | i0nC4nn0n | winbond, same here |
| 17:40.11 | i0nC4nn0n | first i will explain the circumstances whil this is needed: |
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| 17:40.44 | i0nC4nn0n | i can turn my monitor so that i can watch movies from my bead....and the keyboar reaches there so i can controll everithing |
| 17:40.49 | i0nC4nn0n | problem is i can't control the mice |
| 17:41.14 | i0nC4nn0n | the keyboard dosn't have numeric keys so the kde mice accesibility can't help me |
| 17:41.52 | i0nC4nn0n | in windows i had an app called "autohotkey" and made a script for it to use the WASD keys to control the mouse pointer while the scroll lock was on |
| 17:42.08 | i0nC4nn0n | so the problem is: how do i do that in kde? |
| 17:42.47 | i0nC4nn0n | anyone? :D |
| 17:42.48 | derek__ | i0nC4nn0n: are there key commands available for the movie player you use? mplayer has them |
| 17:43.36 | i0nC4nn0n | derek__, yep there are, and yep i use mplayer, problem is if i watch south park via konqueror and i wan't to pause....i can't |
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| 17:44.08 | i0nC4nn0n | derek__, i'm familiar with mplayer, there is a windows port for it... |
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| 17:44.19 | czester | Hello |
| 17:44.42 | czester | Is there anyone familiar to kde programming? |
| 17:44.59 | logixoul | for KDE 3 programming -> #kde-devel |
| 17:44.59 | czester | I need some info about SmallIcon from Kiconloader |
| 17:45.02 | logixoul | for KDE 4 programming -> #kde4-devel |
| 17:45.25 | czester | Ok ;-) |
| 17:45.27 | czester | Thanks |
| 17:45.33 | logixoul | np |
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| 17:46.43 | winbond | in kde 3.5.7 im having a problem with konversation, it keeps disconnecting on ctcp client version request, |
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| 17:47.17 | winbond | and i dont get any messages for like 10 seconds , then i get like 5 at once |
| 17:47.22 | Jucato | winbond: try asking in #konversation also |
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| 17:48.02 | winbond | Jucato, k |
| 17:48.42 | Milo- | my k3b gets stuck at this point when formating CD(-/+)RWs :/ http://u.meelo.info/cdrwtyhjennys.png why is that? :/ |
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| 18:16.06 | talula | Howdy! I'm hoping someone can help me install a printer in KDE. |
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| 18:17.06 | talula | I've never done it before, but I tried adding a printer, and it is telling me: |
| 18:17.32 | talula | Unable to create the Foomatic driver, either the driver does not exist or I don't have permission. |
| 18:17.50 | talula | I have the footmatic-db packages installed, and I'm running the add printer in adminstrative mode. |
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| 18:29.08 | logixoul | talula: ask also in your distro's channel |
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| 18:33.53 | aleksanteri | i get this while booting evolution or any gtk+ application: http://cogwheel.110mb.com/pastebin/view.php?id=25 |
| 18:36.03 | talula | I tried in my distro channel, and no one knows anything. |
| 18:36.52 | talula | The printer shows up in the list, but when I select it, it says the driver doesn't exist or I don't have permission. |
| 18:37.00 | Blissex | aleksanteri: well, 'evolution' is a GNOME programs, and this is #KDE :-) |
| 18:37.11 | aleksanteri | well i happen to run KDE |
| 18:37.20 | aleksanteri | i have both GNOME and KDE installed ^^ |
| 18:37.54 | jpsalova | And it works in Gnome, right? |
| 18:38.00 | aleksanteri | i dunno |
| 18:38.08 | aleksanteri | but it worked yesteday. |
| 18:38.10 | jpsalova | Hm, better check that |
| 18:38.14 | aleksanteri | hmm ok |
| 18:38.59 | talula | jpsalova: The error sounds like a problem with the gtk-engine in X-Windows. |
| 18:39.14 | talula | I'd upgrade/reinstall those packages. |
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| 18:40.15 | aleksanteri | hmm works in GNOME |
| 18:42.39 | talula | Well, I got my printer to install as a 300 as opposed to a 320, because the 300 uses CUPS and the 320 uses gutenprint |
| 18:42.57 | jpsalova | Well, maybe it's QPainter's fault in that case |
| 18:43.01 | jpsalova | Oh he left :p |
| 18:43.10 | jpsalova | But evolution worked here, though. |
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| 19:07.52 | CPrgmSwR2 | Hi, the plasma bar is starting to look neat |
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| 19:08.58 | thechef | (How) can I configure KDE/Kmail to check my Mail boxes regularly, providing similar functionality and look&feel as gmail-notify does (tray icon, small notification window) |
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| 19:09.21 | thechef | ..? |
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| 19:16.52 | Blissex | thechef: check out the notification system... Might do what you want. |
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| 19:18.44 | alsuren | thechef: configure kmail -> apparance -> system tray |
| 19:19.10 | alsuren | enable, always |
| 19:19.55 | alsuren | then in accounts, modify... |
| 19:20.09 | alsuren | enable interval mail checking |
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| 19:21.29 | andersin | the notification is only the number of new emails. right click on the tray icon "new messages in" gets an overview of individual folders |
| 19:21.31 | thechef | oh, that's easy (overlooked that one) |
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| 19:22.05 | andersin | if you want to surpress notification of email check the settings for that folder and "act on unread mail in this folder" |
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| 19:30.04 | dshelfoon | who wants to field the dumb question of the day? |
| 19:30.35 | dshelfoon | Where is the standard volume control or what do I need installed to get the applet |
| 19:32.24 | thechef | that's not a dumb question :) |
| 19:32.31 | thechef | kmix, i guess |
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| 19:51.04 | chuy_max | http://pastebin.ca/678230 |
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| 19:59.36 | guru | i have a 2 monitor setup - the first one is running at 1440x900 and the second at 1280x1024. i've tried everything but i can't get the second monitor to be the primary one (e.g. the one where all of my desktop icons are) |
| 20:00.09 | guru | also i want to increase the refresh rate of the monitor running at 1280x1024 without affecting the other one. does anyone know how i can do this? |
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| 20:14.06 | oneforall | ok when i add an item to the menu where does kds store it ? I've looked in .kde/share/applnk/Games and I'm not seing it added there. Plus over in usr/shared/apps{applnk, applications} I don't see games in there for the appname.desktop O.o |
| 20:14.07 | Elfeater | hey, why is kdesktop blocking kioslaves when i try to update kde? |
| 20:14.17 | Elfeater | do i not need kioslaves anymore? |
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| 20:15.50 | derek__ | Elfeater: what distro? maybe go to that channel |
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| 20:16.59 | Elfeater | Gentoo, but they told me to go here derek__ haha |
| 20:18.05 | Telkontar | try to restart kde |
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| 20:18.26 | derek__ | Elfeater: it's a distro issue. |
| 20:18.45 | Elfeater | i se |
| 20:18.45 | Elfeater | e |
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| 20:19.01 | Elfeater | yeah, happened with the last update of portage... |
| 20:19.03 | Elfeater | ok thanks |
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| 20:20.20 | oneforall | so any one know thanks |
| 20:20.46 | troy | Elfeater: gentoo is a particularly bad support problem for us in here, since every gentoo user is essentially using their own unique OS :P |
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| 20:21.43 | Elfeater | troy: haha yeah, that is true |
| 20:21.50 | troy | oneforall: well, try creating a new .desktop file with a totally bizarre name, then use find . | grep mysillyname |
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| 20:22.17 | oneforall | well I made one for savage |
| 20:22.24 | Elfeater | troy: its just wierd because i already have kdesktop and kioslaves installed and now with the newest update you cant have them both installed at the same time, wtf |
| 20:22.29 | oneforall | so it should be savage.desktop ? |
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| 20:23.27 | troy | oneforall: hopefully :) |
| 20:23.31 | derek__ | Elfeater: its an error in the ebuild |
| 20:23.45 | derek__ | Elfeater: or in the versioning |
| 20:24.07 | oneforall | weird that sinced I made it in the menu edit it never saved it to my user dir |
| 20:24.12 | troy | Elfeater: and if kdesktop wasn't required for ALT-F2 functionality, I'd just say go with the ioslaves :) |
| 20:24.23 | oneforall | or does that editor put it soem where else |
| 20:24.30 | oneforall | 3.5.7 kde btw |
| 20:24.38 | troy | oneforall: I'll check (it should only be writing into your user dir, yes) |
| 20:25.16 | Elfeater | derek__: that is true, seeing as all the other updates are 3.5.7-rx but kdesktop is 3.5.6-r1, is that right? is kdesktop behind one? hahaha |
| 20:25.47 | derek__ | Elfeater: possibly. wait a while and it should get updated |
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| 20:26.42 | Fri13 | Hi! Is it possible to disable showing mounted partitions on media:// ? I dont like that it shows /, /home, /usr and so on. |
| 20:26.52 | oneforall | /home/guru/.kde/share/applnk/Games/Toys is a ll I got and 1 in there that I never wrote :D should have made the one for Tactics & Stratigy |
| 20:27.34 | oneforall | hmm does it save some where temp til you run it maybe |
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| 20:29.05 | oneforall | .local/share/application ;D |
| 20:29.11 | oneforall | found it |
| 20:30.36 | Elfeater | troy & derek__: solution = unmerge kioslaves & kdesktop, update kioslaves THEN update kdesktop |
| 20:30.38 | Elfeater | done |
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| 20:32.55 | Elfeater | well, although i have used gentoo for a while now, and this solution occured to me, i was still not so certain of the stability of kde after i just remove parts of it before having the newer ones ready to install |
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| 20:35.00 | troy | oneforall: it might be in .local not .kde |
| 20:35.19 | troy | oneforall: ~/.local/applications |
| 20:35.31 | troy | errr |
| 20:35.35 | troy | oneforall: ~/.local/share/applications |
| 20:36.08 | troy | oneforall: we've started using that folder so that kde, xfce, gnome, etc. can share menu entries more easily... |
| 20:36.17 | oneforall | yeah I found it there . I seen .local and snooped thanks . I'm looking to see which channel i pasted that in too O.o |
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| 20:37.27 | oneforall | oh I did in here farther back than I thought |
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| 20:42.29 | troy | oneforall: my fault for not reading :) |
| 20:42.39 | oneforall | :D |
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| 20:56.29 | oneforall | darn I can't get it to show savage in the menu . I packaged it up with the Savage.desktop so it would install to /usr/share/applnk/Applications |
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| 20:57.01 | oneforall | where is the default one for games in applnk |
| 20:57.11 | christopher_ | does anyone know where the styles are kept for kde (directory) |
| 20:57.17 | Fire-worker | çäîðîâà âñåì |
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| 20:58.04 | pinotree | Fire-worker: Latin1 characters, and english |
| 20:58.17 | timothyb89 | Hi, is any support given for KDE4 issues? |
| 20:58.33 | Fire-worker | OK! |
| 20:58.39 | Fire-worker | hi all |
| 20:59.03 | oneforall | usr/share/applications should be going here right |
| 20:59.40 | Fri13 | How do i edit what partitions will be showed up on media:/ ? |
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| 21:01.41 | Fire-worker | Sorry, I speake english badly. |
| 21:02.18 | Fire-worker | How do i turn on KDE. |
| 21:02.33 | Fire-worker | I have GNOME and KDE |
| 21:02.45 | jpsalova | You installed it already? Then you can probably select it when you log in |
| 21:02.47 | Fire-worker | but GNOME defaault |
| 21:02.53 | jpsalova | Where you give your username and password |
| 21:03.02 | smileaf | you select a different session on the screen you login at. |
| 21:03.06 | jpsalova | There should be something like "sessios" where you can select it. |
| 21:03.13 | jpsalova | session. |
| 21:03.15 | oneforall | where is the default for the kde games . gamename.desktop |
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| 21:04.08 | Nielsen | i think he wants kde to be default on X startup |
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| 21:04.26 | oneforall | usr/share/applications/kde |
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| 21:04.53 | Fire-worker | and how? |
| 21:05.34 | smileaf | would depend on what login manager you use, probably gdm in which I have no experience with it. |
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| 21:14.04 | LinuxLlama | Hi, I'm following this guide to compile KDE 4 Beta 1: http://techbase.kde.org/Getting_Started/Build/KDE4_Alpha_1 and I get this error when compiling kdelibs: CMake Error: kdelibs requires an out of source build. Please create a separate build directory and run 'cmake path_to_kdelibs [options]' there. |
| 21:14.22 | LinuxLlama | and I AM using an out of source build |
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| 21:16.09 | LinuxLlama | and I am using pclinuxos 2007 |
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| 21:21.04 | pinotree | LinuxLlama: you probably have generated files in your source directory |
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| 21:22.00 | LinuxLlama | so... make clean? |
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| 21:25.38 | pinotree | in the source dir? nope |
| 21:25.50 | LinuxLlama | what do i do then? |
| 21:25.51 | pinotree | svn status, and remove the files starting with ? |
| 21:25.51 | LinuxLlama | hehe |
| 21:26.13 | LinuxLlama | im not using SVN, im using the tar.bz2s provided |
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| 21:28.39 | pinotree | i'd suggest you getting the svn, beta1 is "old"... |
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| 21:30.30 | oneforall | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:30.30 | LinuxLlama | ok |
| 21:30.34 | LinuxLlama | ill get the svn then pinotree |
| 21:30.37 | LinuxLlama | thanks so much |
| 21:30.42 | LinuxLlama | thank you all, and have a good day |
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| 21:30.51 | pinotree | oneforall: ? |
| 21:30.51 | oneforall | even if I try the manu update util |
| 21:31.02 | pinotree | did you add it manually? |
| 21:31.12 | oneforall | its not being added to Categories=Application;Game;StrategyGame; |
| 21:31.38 | oneforall | na I made it then added it to my package buyild script . installed it but its not working ;( |
| 21:31.49 | pinotree | two things: |
| 21:31.57 | pinotree | - "Application" is not a category |
| 21:32.03 | pinotree | - try running kbuildsycoca |
| 21:32.25 | oneforall | http://rafb.net/p/k42XOL97.html thats whast inside it |
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| 21:33.12 | oneforall | hmm weird I looked at eboard.desktop and it has Categories=Application;Game;BoardGame |
| 21:33.19 | pinotree | wrong as well |
| 21:33.28 | pinotree | Application is not a defined caegory |
| 21:33.44 | pinotree | listen to me, run kbuildsycoca, wait 5 seconds then open your kmenu |
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| 21:33.50 | oneforall | and it works |
| 21:34.07 | pinotree | it works because there's Games :) |
| 21:34.15 | pinotree | *Game |
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| 21:37.36 | setre | How can I hide the mouse cursor in X until a user logs in (using kdm, if it matters) |
| 21:37.56 | oneforall | kio (KService*): WARNING: Invalid Service : .hidden/dirfilterplugin.desktop |
| 21:38.33 | oneforall | whoops wrong one but Savage.desktop got the same |
| 21:38.41 | pinotree | ? |
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| 21:40.54 | oneforall | kio (KService*): WARNING: Invalid Service :/usr/share/applications/Savage.desktop thats what i get |
| 21:41.16 | oneforall | when I run that kbuildsycoca |
| 21:41.37 | pinotree | yeah, you miss Type=Application |
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| 21:42.14 | pinotree | hold on |
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| 21:43.01 | oneforall | Type=Application that in its was made witht ehmenu editor then I just added the Catagory part . wa all copy past\e:D |
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| 21:43.54 | pinotree | try this one: http://rafb.net/p/DE5p5K45.html |
| 21:43.58 | oneforall | weird some have a ; at the end and some don't |
| 21:44.14 | pinotree | the ones that ends with ; are lists |
| 21:44.26 | pinotree | Categories is a list of categories, separated by ; |
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| 21:46.36 | mSig | hiya |
| 21:46.48 | mSig | i just install amarok, anyone using that too? |
| 21:46.55 | Elfeater | msig:yes |
| 21:47.03 | mSig | cant get plugins/codecs working - HowTo plz? :) |
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| 21:47.37 | Elfeater | mSig: amarok uses the xine-lib library to to decode media, if xine-lib dont have it, amarok dont |
| 21:47.53 | mSig | think i need to set up xine right, but can it utilize same codecs as mplayer does? |
| 21:47.54 | oneforall | darn i still get invalid sevice |
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| 21:49.03 | mSig | elfeater im on gentoo, and have current USE / --configure: X alsa arts dvd esd fbcon gnome gtk ipv6 mad mng nls opengl oss samba sdl truetype v4l vcd vorbis win32codecs xv |
| 21:49.13 | oneforall | maybe it doesn't like a link in /usr/games ? |
| 21:49.31 | Elfeater | mSig: ok, what are you asking exactly? |
| 21:50.16 | Elfeater | mSig: im on gentoo as well |
| 21:50.28 | mSig | well, ive seen forums stating something about a search path or something - when initiating xine-lib, it searches for instance. /usr/lib/codecs |
| 21:50.29 | oneforall | err damn perm got changed on me to 600 should be 644 |
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| 21:50.50 | mSig | how can i configure the location of win32codecs? |
| 21:51.22 | alexmontoanelli | : mSig, why you need configure this ? |
| 21:51.24 | mSig | elfeater grüß. gentoo rulez ;) |
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| 21:51.41 | Elfeater | mSig: unless you installed win32codecs in a non standard place you shouldnt need to do that |
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| 21:51.58 | mSig | alexmontoanelli, well - while streaming audio (most radio stations are wma) i get an error about |
| 21:52.03 | Elfeater | mSig: i dont think you can just "configure" the path that it looks in either, i think you need to do that at compile time |
| 21:52.09 | mSig | no way to decode this - or somethin like that |
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| 21:52.30 | JmiahMan | Hello people of KDE |
| 21:52.46 | lemur | Hello |
| 21:52.51 | alexmontoanelli | : mSig whats player you are use ? |
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| 21:53.00 | JmiahMan | I come from PCLinuxOS Land |
| 21:53.07 | lemur | oh my |
| 21:53.11 | mSig | was givin amarok a shot |
| 21:53.29 | alexmontoanelli | whats your dist? |
| 21:53.34 | mSig | oh wait... maybe i just needed to recompile xine-lib.. |
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| 21:53.46 | mSig | it just listed the needed codecs .o.O |
| 21:54.01 | mSig | elfeater just didnt know what to look for :) |
| 21:54.02 | JmiahMan | Anyone have any news on Beta 2 |
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| 21:54.30 | troy | JmiahMan: it's been tagged, tarballs have been quietly released for distros to package.. announcement likely on monday (possibly later) |
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| 21:54.54 | oneforall | well that gotr rid of that Invalid error but still doesn't show up :( |
| 21:55.07 | Elfeater | mSig: ..... yes you need to recompile it to use the new use flags, doy! |
| 21:56.06 | troy | use flags= gentoo is being evil and the ebuilds and not choosing a sane default for you... |
| 21:56.09 | JmiahMan | troy: any screenshots? |
| 21:56.23 | troy | JmiahMan: still building - I'm writing my beta 2 article for ars technica today though... |
| 21:56.36 | JmiahMan | Nice |
| 21:56.39 | troy | JmiahMan: don't expect a revolution between beta 1 and beta 2 :P |
| 21:56.40 | JmiahMan | thanks |
| 21:56.44 | JmiahMan | I don't |
| 21:56.47 | guru | is there an easy way to override the refresh rate for one monitor in a multi-monitor setup? |
| 21:56.50 | JmiahMan | I've been keeping up on development |
| 21:56.53 | troy | in fact, kicker hasn't been killed off yet |
| 21:56.54 | mSig | elfeater, well i thought it allready was.. |
| 21:57.13 | JmiahMan | The fact they pushed it out to December tells me something also |
| 21:57.22 | Elfeater | mSig: haha its cool, just something that i tend to over look as to what people have tried |
| 21:57.28 | troy | JmiahMan: oh, I did that too... |
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| 21:57.58 | kaldrenon | Is anybody here familiar with issues between KDE and Dell laptops? |
| 21:57.59 | mSig | elfeater a rebuild is allways worth a shot hehe |
| 21:58.00 | JmiahMan | that was your blog |
| 21:58.04 | JmiahMan | hmm |
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| 21:58.14 | troy | JmiahMan: the release team is now debating what day to use in december, so it might be earlier in the month (the guy that would normally tag the release goes on holidays on dec. 15th, so we need to tag before that) |
| 21:58.23 | mSig | elfeater the trouble is, _what_ do we need to rebuild lol |
| 21:58.29 | JmiahMan | As long as it's stable who cares |
| 21:59.00 | Elfeater | mSig: haha yeah ture |
| 21:59.02 | JmiahMan | I just like keeping up with the progress |
| 21:59.03 | Elfeater | true* |
| 21:59.13 | troy | JmiahMan: not only was that my blog, but I was the one that proposed the delay to the release team *sigh*... they really thought they could release in October for quite a few months... |
| 21:59.52 | JmiahMan | troy: The community (at least mine) was questions about that for some time. |
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| 22:00.20 | JmiahMan | troy: non of us thought October |
| 22:00.30 | troy | JmiahMan: well, earlier this year, October was still reasonable |
| 22:00.58 | troy | but I honestly didn't expect them to make that deadline - so much as to use that deadline to motivate people |
| 22:00.59 | JmiahMan | troy: By beta one though? |
| 22:01.19 | troy | JmiahMan: they're beta - betas are allowed to stink :) |
| 22:01.32 | stoned | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:01.59 | JmiahMan | I know but by beta one we kinda thought maybe development should be longer |
| 22:02.25 | troy | JmiahMan: no, we'd end up stuck in the development cycle forever (like e17 is) if we didn't force ourselves to stop sometime |
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| 22:03.08 | JmiahMan | I don't mean anything by it I'm sure you guys are working hard but just know most people I talk to don't mind the push out as long as everything is somewhat decent |
| 22:03.11 | pinotree | troy: then stretching again the deadline will help, yeah? |
| 22:03.57 | JmiahMan | Thanks for your work and the whole KDE team. You guys Rock ;) |
| 22:04.02 | JmiahMan | C ya |
| 22:04.02 | oneforall | ok why is it some apps have a cap like Savage.desktop and they work . is it the dsktop name has to match the exec name maybe ? |
| 22:04.11 | pinotree | nope |
| 22:04.29 | oneforall | cause I changed it to savage.desktop and now it is picked up |
| 22:05.22 | troy | pinotree: the deadline serves only one real purpose that I can think of: motivate people to get things in a releaseable state - now the problem is that there's a huge discrepency between the current state and the releaseable state as the old deadline approaches, so it has to be adjusted to reflect reality... |
| 22:05.48 | pinotree | troy: do you think streatching again after years of development will motivate more? |
| 22:05.49 | oneforall | only one I can look at is Thunar.desktop and it has the Exec=Thunar %F . it must need a match |
| 22:06.02 | troy | oneforall: did you rename it on the command line? you'd have to regenerate the menus to get it to be picked up then |
| 22:06.47 | troy | pinotree: well, 'years of development' is true, but we've only really had a schedule since this spring |
| 22:06.51 | oneforall | troy yes I disided to try and rename it with lower case s to seeif it would get pickled up. It did |
| 22:07.02 | pinotree | troy: so? |
| 22:07.19 | troy | pinotree: with no schedule, there's no risk to the developers if they leave things unstable |
| 22:07.26 | oneforall | weird how Thunar.desktop works but I look and se the exec is upper case. so maybe they have to match |
| 22:07.33 | troy | pinotree: because with no schedule, it won't be released 'any time soon' |
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| 22:07.36 | oneforall | just going to test that now |
| 22:07.36 | pinotree | troy: so, up to 2 days ago, there was no schedule? |
| 22:08.05 | troy | pinotree: no, there was one - it was just not reflecting the reality of the code's stability, especially plasma |
| 22:08.32 | pinotree | troy: you can't pretend to have a kde4.0 like kde3.5.7-svn |
| 22:09.02 | troy | pinotree: no, but there are big problems with it right now... lack of a real panel among them |
| 22:09.04 | pinotree | 3rd part developers needs new libraries |
| 22:09.33 | pinotree | troy: then bite the plasma developers in their butt, not making things longer for everone else |
| 22:09.38 | troy | pinotree: yeah, I know. the release team is contemplating doing a release of kdelibs+kdepimlibs in October anyway |
| 22:09.56 | oneforall | well this is weird how some apps can have upper case letter and not others O.o |
| 22:10.09 | pinotree | troy: i'm on that list as well, and read about the "release-in-january-for-mountainview" |
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| 22:11.05 | troy | pinotree: that's not the reason I suggested they push it back... in fact the logic goes the other way... they are not ready for an October release, and we need warning if they are going to be pushing back by more than 12 weeks, since we'll need to cancel our event then... |
| 22:11.21 | _michael | Hi is there a way to make a second kicker panel use a different background tile than the main panel? |
| 22:11.35 | troy | pinotree: we chose january for the event simply because we guessed that 12 weeks would be enough in case the schedule needed to slip |
| 22:12.10 | pinotree | troy: everyone's his job - but don't let PR (like you) decide what developers have to do, and when |
| 22:12.25 | guru | is there a utility that can tell me what the optimal horizontal and vertical refresh rates should be for my monitor? |
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| 22:12.40 | lemur | well geez why not release it whether they're ready or not |
| 22:13.00 | troy | pinotree: in case you didn't read the release team ML, we're running with Allen's schedule, not my own (I had more RC's and less betas), even though the end date is much the same |
| 22:13.33 | pinotree | troy: i _do_ read, as i said, and imho wasn't allen to press for a new deadline |
| 22:13.57 | troy | pinotree: he was supported by others as well |
| 22:14.02 | oneforall | ugh any idea on why some can do that and not others ? |
| 22:14.24 | pinotree | troy: are you hiding yourself? |
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| 22:14.44 | troy | lemur: because if we release it in October, it will do more damage to KDE than good |
| 22:15.00 | lemur | naaah |
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| 22:15.29 | troy | pinotree: I don't control the release team - my original proposal was just to leave the October release as is, but don't announce it until January... |
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| 22:16.02 | pinotree | ... to have that fantastic(?) montainview event, right? |
| 22:16.04 | lemur | it will motivate the developers to make it work, and if they can't then the release will create more incentive to fix the bugs even after the release, and it will garner more support from the community |
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| 22:17.11 | rdale | as long as we don't release a half baked design, you can fix bugs, but you can't fix bad design so easily |
| 22:17.12 | troy | pinotree: right, except mountainview isn't my idea either, I'm just involved in getting press to attend that event |
| 22:17.43 | troy | pinotree: mountainview is sebas's baby |
| 22:19.01 | troy | pinotree: I know your code is already ready to go (it was months ago already when I wrote about it), but not everyone else has reached that level of quality yet... |
| 22:19.40 | lemur | but hasn't kde used the same design for like 10 years |
| 22:19.54 | mSig | darn, well its not wma codec thats missing anyways... |
| 22:19.59 | troy | lemur: well, KDE 1.x->2.x was a huge redesign |
| 22:20.10 | lemur | kde2 was the best kde |
| 22:20.18 | mSig | amarok, playing streams - other then last.fm - doesnt work for me .o.O |
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| 22:20.29 | mSig | it states, 'no audio channel' ?! |
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| 22:20.55 | lemur | amarok is a good program... I like how it gives me that popup message whenever I play "amarok" |
| 22:21.36 | troy | lemur: kde 2.0.0 was also the worst KDE in many ways... it was big, slow, and unstable after ages of developing unstable, new technologies - thankfully is was light-years ahead of kde 1.1.2 |
| 22:21.52 | lemur | ah :( |
| 22:22.10 | lemur | I thought kde2 came with good games |
| 22:22.26 | troy | lemur: but KDE 2.0.0 was basically the foundation that became 3.x as well |
| 22:22.39 | lemur | yeah but I hated 3.x visual themes. Still do |
| 22:22.53 | troy | lemur: that's just themes, I'm referring to the libraries... |
| 22:22.58 | lemur | oh yes of course |
| 22:23.04 | lemur | see but us users don't know the difference |
| 22:23.19 | troy | kde 2 gave us ioslaves, kparts, dcop, konqueror, kicker, kwin, konsole, and more... |
| 22:23.35 | lemur | ah, I love konqueror |
| 22:23.37 | lemur | so much |
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| 22:23.58 | bfrog | kde3 themes were terrible until plastic came about, then it was actually usable again |
| 22:23.59 | troy | so kde 3.x is a direct descendant from kde 2.x - there was no major reworking between 2.2.x and 3.0.x |
| 22:24.12 | bfrog | I couldn' |
| 22:24.55 | lemur | that's why I'm excited about 4.0 |
| 22:25.08 | lemur | finally, a new kde |
| 22:25.32 | benJIman | There are hundreds of themes for KDE. |
| 22:25.38 | benJIman | You don't have to use the default ones. |
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| 22:26.24 | troy | lemur: just be prepared for a KDE that has a few regressions - we won't be able to tackle every bug before release... |
| 22:26.30 | lemur | I'm gonna mess with my themes right now |
| 22:26.35 | lemur | troy: I'm comfortable with bugs, really |
| 22:26.49 | lemur | I just want to see kde organized in a fashion that makes it more... I don't know how to say it... complete |
| 22:26.55 | troy | lemur: good, you ebtter be a beta tester for us then :) |
| 22:26.59 | troy | better* |
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| 22:27.06 | lemur | haha, if I can access the packages easily |
| 22:27.11 | lemur | I don't know how to go about installing a beta |
| 22:27.40 | troy | lemur: distro? |
| 22:27.46 | lemur | FreeBSD |
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| 22:28.12 | lemur | my lapto is going to get gutsy gibbon when it's released |
| 22:28.27 | troy | lemur: oh, heh. you might want to hang out in #kde-freebsd (if there is any traffic in there these days)... you can also help tests the ports compiliation for ade or whoever is working on packages these days |
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| 22:29.20 | lemur | nice |
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| 22:30.32 | troy | pinotree: we'll talk later about what we need to do to make you happy (going to eat now) |
| 22:30.33 | troy | cheers folks |
| 22:30.53 | lemur | man kde classic theme rocks |
| 22:31.12 | pinotree | troy: *sigh* |
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| 22:34.03 | lemur | I hate not being able to switch my keyboard layout with the xkb shorcut |
| 22:34.07 | lemur | I don't understand why it doesn't work |
| 22:34.18 | mSig | from wmscr1.dr.dk/ :: http://wmscr1.dr.dk/e06ch03m?wmcontentbitrate=300000&MSWMExt=.asf errormsg from amarok, no fitting plugin for demultiplexing found ~,~ |
| 22:34.56 | mSig | a direct asf, for instance http://www.ne.jp/asahi/tanu/music/data/sarob.asf works perfectly!? |
| 22:36.03 | lemur | ok ctrl+alt+k works but that's a pain |
| 22:36.06 | lemur | I guess it's better than nothing |
| 22:38.18 | lemur | mabye my keyboard is fubar |
| 22:38.33 | lemur | the shift keys don't really seem to be considered "shift" by x/kde |
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| 22:44.08 | rickey | anyone here use fedroa? |
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| 22:44.36 | lemur | rickey: I does |
| 22:44.44 | rickey | great |
| 22:44.50 | rickey | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:44.50 | lemur | thenks |
| 22:44.54 | lemur | fedora 7 |
| 22:45.00 | lemur | I don't use their kde because I hate it |
| 22:45.04 | rickey | how do you like it |
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| 22:45.14 | lemur | fedora is good... very advanced distro |
| 22:45.27 | mkargar | hello all frinds |
| 22:45.34 | rickey | did pidgin come with it |
| 22:45.37 | lemur | it doesn't self configure as well as, say, ubuntu, but it's right up there among the easiest to use/install |
| 22:45.49 | lemur | but it's complicated system underneath so if it breaks you're really in trouble |
| 22:45.54 | lemur | yeah, pidgin latest |
| 22:46.04 | lemur | I love the pidgin |
| 22:46.24 | rickey | it was part of the package or did you hafe to download it later |
| 22:46.31 | lemur | it comes with it |
| 22:46.37 | rickey | great |
| 22:46.50 | lemur | a linux distro without gaim/pidgin is like... well I don't know, it's unheard of |
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| 22:47.08 | rickey | did fedora coast you much |
| 22:47.35 | rickey | $$$ |
| 22:48.02 | rickey | i am thinking of buying it |
| 22:48.04 | lemur | I pirated it |
| 22:48.09 | lemur | off bittorrent |
| 22:48.11 | lemur | don't tell anyone |
| 22:48.19 | rickey | ok cool |
| 22:48.37 | rickey | it,s free anyway |
| 22:48.42 | lemur | :o |
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| 22:49.01 | lemur | hey why don't you try freebsd |
| 22:49.03 | lemur | I bet you'll like it |
| 22:49.11 | rickey | do you do pal talk, by any chance |
| 22:49.22 | lemur | wtf is pal talk? |
| 22:49.38 | rickey | it,s another chat program |
| 22:49.52 | rickey | youd like it |
| 22:50.08 | rickey | check it out |
| 22:50.30 | rickey | i use to go to it wen i had windows |
| 22:50.55 | lemur | but why should I use it |
| 22:51.03 | rickey | but i kicked windows out of my machine 6 mo. ago |
| 22:51.04 | lemur | I mean is it teh l33t |
| 22:51.25 | rickey | lot,s of cool pepole there |
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| 22:51.32 | rickey | it,s live chat |
| 22:51.43 | lemur | oh, cool |
| 22:51.45 | lemur | any hot girls? |
| 22:51.48 | rickey | and it,s free |
| 22:52.05 | rickey | OOOOOOOOOOOOO man yea |
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| 22:52.49 | lemur | ooooo |
| 22:52.53 | lemur | but I don't have windows |
| 22:52.54 | lemur | oh well |
| 22:53.29 | rickey | now all ive got to do is figure out what distro of fedora 7.0 i want to order there is so many |
| 22:53.44 | rickey | and i am not sure which one i should use |
| 22:53.55 | lemur | I'd stick with the standard if I were you |
| 22:54.15 | rickey | but which one is that |
| 22:54.23 | Anonycat | when I see "Show only marked bookmarks in toolbar"--how do I unmark a bookmark? |
| 22:55.04 | rickey | anonycat thats a good question |
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| 22:55.26 | Anonycat | and is there any way to change the font specifically for the bookmarks toolbar? (Right now it's monospace 14, which is too big for my purposes.) |
| 22:55.31 | rickey | i have also wondered that |
| 22:57.01 | rickey | lemur did you have any trouble play mp 3 music with fedora 7.0 |
| 22:57.16 | rickey | playing |
| 22:57.43 | Anonycat | I have F7 can can play audio files just fine |
| 22:57.49 | Anonycat | s/can/and/ |
| 22:57.54 | rickey | and what players came with fedora 7.0 |
| 22:58.20 | Anonycat | it doesn't come with mp3 support in the base installation, but easy enough to do |
| 22:58.25 | Anonycat | rpm -ivh http://rpm.livna.org/livna-release-7.rpm |
| 22:58.33 | lemur | rickey: it's easy if you do the livna repo |
| 22:58.37 | lemur | as Anonycat says |
| 22:58.43 | Anonycat | then you can yum install things like xine-lib-extras-nonfree |
| 22:59.36 | lemur | and other goodies |
| 22:59.38 | rickey | how dose internet radio work on fedora |
| 22:59.52 | Anonycat | you play the stream file in your player of choice |
| 22:59.52 | lemur | it works fine when I tried it |
| 22:59.59 | rickey | what is the main player |
| 23:00.10 | Anonycat | it's Linux...you can choose |
| 23:00.15 | lemur | I use amarok, but it's an inconsistent player because it can use various audio engines |
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| 23:00.20 | Anonycat | kaffeine, amarok, xmms... |
| 23:00.23 | jpsalova | You can choose, no matter what the OS. |
| 23:00.30 | lemur | so some amarok installs give you really crappy sounding radio streams, I can't explain why |
| 23:00.33 | lemur | so I fall back on xmms |
| 23:01.05 | rickey | are you guy,s a regura in this room |
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| 23:01.26 | rickey | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:01.48 | rickey | i hate suse10.1 |
| 23:02.01 | lemur | me too what's with suse anyway |
| 23:02.04 | rickey | that,s what i got |
| 23:02.28 | rickey | package mager is all messed up |
| 23:02.37 | rickey | manger |
| 23:02.39 | lemur | I like yum.. yum is really good |
| 23:02.47 | lemur | and you can even use apt/rpm |
| 23:02.50 | lemur | can't beat apt |
| 23:03.05 | Anonycat | isn't apt/rpm abandoned? |
| 23:03.08 | rickey | this sounds so good |
| 23:03.09 | lemur | dunno |
| 23:03.52 | rickey | i am so tried of the stuid looking lizard |
| 23:04.23 | lemur | I'm using kget, and I realized that all these programs like kget, ktorrent, konqueror are too separate... they should be combined |
| 23:04.56 | rickey | but i do like kde |
| 23:05.09 | rickey | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:05.19 | lemur | like give kde a unified download system that is utilized by all apps who need to download stuff |
| 23:05.56 | lemur | and kde should have its own social networking service like Kspace or Kbook or something |
| 23:06.05 | lemur | and provide a cute applet for staying in touch with your K-friends |
| 23:06.25 | rickey | now your talking |
| 23:06.33 | lemur | lol |
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| 23:06.43 | Anonycat | a number of programs in KDE allow you to get updates/addons by fetching the appropriate categories from KDE-Apps or KDE-Look |
| 23:06.53 | rickey | mo power to the big K |
| 23:07.04 | lemur | where did the K come from anyway? |
| 23:07.17 | rickey | HAVE NO IDEAL |
| 23:07.34 | rickey | oop,s sorry about the cap,s |
| 23:08.17 | lemur | oh so the K is for Kool |
| 23:08.30 | rickey | could be |
| 23:08.34 | Anonycat | K was chosen because it was the letter before L (Linux) |
| 23:08.39 | lemur | incorrect |
| 23:09.07 | lemur | wikipedia says it's false |
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| 23:09.35 | rickey | hi amy |
| 23:09.35 | lemur | Hey does anyone remember Kandalf? I loved that wizard |
| 23:09.40 | lemur | Where's he gone to anyway |
| 23:09.59 | jpsalova | lemur: where does it say that in there |
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| 23:10.51 | rickey | brb gota check mail |
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| 23:10.57 | lemur | jpsalova: Kspace or Kbook or something |
| 23:11.02 | lemur | what |
| 23:11.04 | lemur | that's not right |
| 23:11.15 | lemur | jpsalova: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kde |
| 23:11.20 | jpsalova | I looked in there |
| 23:11.22 | lemur | damn unix desktop not being able to cut and paste |
| 23:11.27 | jpsalova | Didn't see it though |
| 23:11.29 | lemur | It's under History |
| 23:11.31 | MinceR | Kandalf went to KAman ;) |
| 23:11.46 | lemur | Additionally, one of the tips in certain versions of KDE 3 incorrectly states that the K currently is just meant to be the letter before L in the Latin alphabet, the first letter in the word Linux (Which is where KDE is usually run) |
| 23:11.54 | jpsalova | Oh yeah now I found it |
| 23:11.57 | jpsalova | thanks. |
| 23:12.05 | lemur | Bug report is also referenced here: http://lists.kde.org/?l=kde-bugs-dist&m=99123156103826&w=2 |
| 23:12.18 | lemur | MinceR: Kaman? But "Kandalf" is way cooler |
| 23:12.27 | MinceR | lemur: Gandalf went to Aman |
| 23:12.38 | lemur | :-/ |
| 23:12.46 | MinceR | it was meant to be a pun by me |
| 23:12.58 | lemur | oh I thought you were serious |
| 23:13.01 | MinceR | afaik the k originally stood for kool, but now it stands for nothing |
| 23:13.03 | MinceR | i wasn't |
| 23:13.23 | lemur | They thought Kandalf was a copyright infringement? How? |
| 23:13.25 | lemur | That's ridiculous |
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| 23:14.18 | lemur | Even if Gandalf is a madeup name, you shouldn't be able to copyright just a name, and Kandalf is a different name entirely |
| 23:14.42 | MinceR | it's a part of a literary work |
| 23:14.44 | lemur | It's more of a parody of sorts |
| 23:14.47 | MinceR | which is intellectual property |
| 23:14.52 | lemur | Doesn't matter, it's not the work |
| 23:15.05 | lemur | it's just a similar name, which is perfectly legal |
| 23:15.09 | MinceR | btw kde could be turned into a recursiv acronym by claiming that the k stands for kde :> |
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| 23:15.24 | lemur | And there's no way Tolkien's estate could have trademarked the "Old man wizard" charicature |
| 23:16.16 | lemur | that's old as time and part of many legends/myths/stories, inculding the Norse god Woden which Gandalf is based on |
| 23:16.24 | lemur | ah well |
| 23:16.29 | lemur | I guess Konqi is cuter anyway |
| 23:16.34 | lemur | Mascots love to be cute |
| 23:16.35 | sabayonlive-3899 | hi every1 |
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| 23:16.40 | sabayonlive-3899 | need lil help |
| 23:16.58 | pinotree | just ask |
| 23:17.07 | lemur | oh I didn't know Konqi had a girlfriend |
| 23:17.10 | lemur | hm |
| 23:17.19 | lemur | even the freaking dragon is getting laid |
| 23:17.27 | fibratuttalavita | weel I'v just installed sabayon first time linux user |
| 23:17.33 | lemur | fibratuttalavita: we are here to help you |
| 23:17.33 | fibratuttalavita | well |
| 23:17.39 | fibratuttalavita | italy |
| 23:17.42 | MinceR | according to http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Gandalf , the name "Gandalfr" existed before LoTR. |
| 23:18.00 | MinceR | but i prefer Konqi to Kandalf anyway. |
| 23:18.02 | pinotree | fibratuttalavita: then, #linux-it |
| 23:18.11 | fibratuttalavita | tahnkx |
| 23:20.07 | Killdeer | 'K' is the 11th letter of the alphabet, The atomic number of sodium is 11, sodium is used in the manufacture of soap, soap was a central theme of the movie "fight Club" starring Brad Pitt, who co-starred in the 1986 movie Sleepers with Kevin Bacon. |
| 23:20.34 | MinceR | lol |
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| 23:20.41 | Killdeer | There are 6 degrees of seperation between KDE and Kevin bacon |
| 23:20.59 | lemur | Killdeer: and Kevin starts with K |
| 23:21.02 | MinceR | KDE starts with the letter 'K', and so does the name 'Kevin Bacon' |
| 23:21.12 | MinceR | done it with 1 :> |
| 23:21.28 | Killdeer | lemur & Mincer, no that's rediculous |
| 23:21.31 | lemur | :o |
| 23:21.46 | MinceR | ridiculous is something i'm good at :> |
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| 23:22.12 | Killdeer | I have no idea what the 'K' stands for |
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| 23:22.55 | lemur | it officially stands for nothing |
| 23:22.58 | lemur | it just is |
| 23:23.02 | lemur | like GNU in GNU |
| 23:23.07 | DrWilcock | is it possible to make my taskbar black with white text? in ubuntu? |
| 23:24.08 | Myr | K used to stand for 'Kool', then they decided that wasn't very professional. Or so says the KDE myths page |
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| 23:25.42 | MinceR | but GNU stands for GNU's Not Unix! |
| 23:26.32 | Killdeer | is GNU Linux? |
| 23:26.47 | lemur | no |
| 23:26.54 | lemur | GNU and Linux are separate projects |
| 23:27.05 | lemur | they don't always get along, but they need each other to function |
| 23:27.05 | lemur | heh |
| 23:27.13 | Killdeer | what is GNU then ? |
| 23:27.24 | DrWilcock | GNU's not UNIX |
| 23:27.27 | Myr | an animal ;) |
| 23:27.31 | lemur | GNU is a collection of free programs that comprise an unix-like operating system |
| 23:27.37 | lemur | GNU has no kernel |
| 23:27.42 | Killdeer | I know what it's not, what is it? |
| 23:27.44 | lemur | Linux is the kernel |
| 23:28.17 | Myr | GNU: http://www.sagarmatha.com/images/gnu.jpg |
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| 23:28.57 | Killdeer | many things are not UNIX, ... like post-its, frogs, and oranges |
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| 23:29.17 | Myr | But GNUs stick out, they are _especially_ not Unix |
| 23:29.32 | lemur | lol |
| 23:29.35 | lemur | you guys are funny |
| 23:29.55 | lemur | I have the feeling gnu is going to be around longer than linux |
| 23:30.17 | Killdeer | If ever start a project, I'll call it ING |
| 23:30.28 | lemur | eventually the kernel will reach a point where in order to make a better system they'd need to design an entirely new kernel |
| 23:30.34 | lemur | why ING? |
| 23:30.35 | Killdeer | for "Its Not GNU" |
| 23:30.38 | Myr | That would be Linux 3.0 |
| 23:30.53 | lemur | heh |
| 23:31.01 | lemur | well ING's not GNU |
| 23:31.04 | lemur | you have to make it recursive |
| 23:31.05 | Myr | I think Linus as already said there won't be a 3.0 until something real major needs to be done, like a rewrite |
| 23:31.22 | lemur | yeah, I gess so |
| 23:31.30 | lemur | it better be true microkernel |
| 23:31.33 | Myr | I don't think Satllman is gonna have Hurd ready anytime soon ;) |
| 23:31.34 | lemur | I'm waiting for the day |
| 23:31.46 | lemur | yeah hurd is deeead |
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| 23:35.05 | Killdeer | I hurd the same thing |
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| 23:35.15 | Myr | gah my internet blows |
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| 23:36.20 | lemur | how why |
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| 23:37.32 | Myr | it throws me off at random |
| 23:37.38 | Myr | i think they are working on the lines or something tho |
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| 23:39.02 | myname | hey i need help with sudoers |
| 23:39.09 | pinotree | nope, ##linux |
| 23:40.51 | Myr | so anyone here play wesnoth? |
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| 23:42.43 | DrWilcock | is it a way to make the taskbar white on black? |
| 23:43.56 | Myr | the taskbar or the whole panel? |
| 23:44.11 | DrWilcock | the whole thing at the bottom of the screen |
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| 23:44.51 | Myr | the only way i can think is to have a fully white on black theme |
| 23:45.06 | Myr | i know how to make the bg color black, but as for the font, i think thats a system-wide setting |
| 23:45.11 | DrWilcock | awwh =( |
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| 23:50.16 | Myr | *just learned about netend in xp* oh the fun im gonna have... |
| 23:50.31 | Myr | need to wait for mum to get out of the living room to enable the service on her pc XD |
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| 23:55.31 | autarquico_ | does anyone know about compiz fusion? |
| 23:56.06 | Myr | not much |
| 23:56.11 | Myr | but lets hear your question |
| 23:56.51 | autarquico_ | you know the 3D windows that layer on the cube? |
| 23:57.24 | pinotree | autarquico_: #compiz-fusion please, it's offtopic here |
| 23:57.34 | autarquico_ | thanks |
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| 23:59.44 | johnrw | hi |
| 23:59.46 | johnrw | how do i add a protocol in kde? |
