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00:02.11 | RichiH | wolsni: http://growl.info/ |
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00:02.19 | wolsni | RichiH: ah |
00:02.21 | ubuntu_ | Hello |
00:02.25 | RichiH | wolsni: it is a generic popup application |
00:02.28 | ubuntu_ | http://www.jamaicaelections.com/general/2007/info/constituency.php |
00:02.32 | RichiH | you send stuff to it, it pops up |
00:02.32 | wolsni | RichiH: yes, kde has a notification framework |
00:02.45 | RichiH | wolsni: dcop-enabled? |
00:02.53 | wolsni | dunno if it's dcop enabled |
00:03.00 | ubuntu_ | can someone go to that site in konqueror and tell me if they get buttons at the drop down box near the bottom of the page |
00:03.00 | sysop2 | although with kdialog and netcat you could write your own. |
00:03.04 | wolsni | but you can make popups with kdialog |
00:03.08 | RichiH | wolsni: how can i create a few test messages? |
00:03.17 | Anonycat | In the style customizer, what does "Fix parentless dialogs" mean? |
00:03.21 | wolsni | kdialog --passivepopup blah |
00:03.23 | wolsni | i think |
00:03.31 | wolsni | kdialog --help to be sure |
00:03.43 | RichiH | wolsni: that works, yes |
00:03.50 | RichiH | it is ugly as all three hells |
00:03.52 | sysop2 | yep. hey anyone here use the --embed option on kdialog? |
00:03.53 | RichiH | but it works :) |
00:04.21 | cbpye | is there any way to modify the visible columns in Kate's filesystem browser? |
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00:05.14 | sysop2 | better yet can someone point me to an example using --embed on kdialog. |
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00:07.13 | ubuntu_ | http://www.jamaicaelections.com/general/2007/info/constituency.php |
00:07.15 | ubuntu_ | can someone go to that site in konqueror and tell me if they get buttons at the drop down box near the bottom of the page |
00:07.52 | sabgenton | as of kde357 my 7 button mouse can click to scroll left and click to scroll right |
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00:07.58 | sabgenton | can i change this? |
00:08.01 | sabgenton | can |
00:08.04 | sabgenton | 'find a way |
00:08.09 | sabgenton | can't |
00:08.32 | sysop2 | ubuntu I cant see any buttons near the drop down box |
00:08.44 | DawnLight | how do we spell it, konqi, right? |
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00:10.18 | sabgenton | any one know where in control center I can stop my mouse scrolling left and right? |
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00:13.14 | wolsni | sabgenton: i don't think that's in the control center |
00:13.25 | wolsni | what do you want those keys to do, anyway? |
00:13.29 | sabgenton | wolsni: is it fixed |
00:13.44 | sabgenton | ? |
00:13.53 | Ungi_ | #konversation |
00:13.56 | wolsni | sabgenton: i believe there's a tool you can use |
00:13.59 | DawnLight | who wants firebug in konqueror? https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=141048 |
00:14.02 | wolsni | xmodmap or something along those lines |
00:14.15 | sabgenton | wolsni: na i just wanted to do it in kde |
00:14.20 | Sho_ | DawnLight: Do you know the existing JavaScript debugger, btw? |
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00:14.47 | sabgenton | wolsni: i cant remmber that in 355 is that a feature of 357 |
00:14.48 | sysop2 | you can use xmodmap with kde. infact it was the only way to get kde to recognize most of my buttons |
00:14.50 | sabgenton | ? |
00:15.07 | DawnLight | no, Sho_, does it help with visual design? |
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00:15.17 | wolsni | sabgenton: i only have 5 buttons on my mouse |
00:15.32 | wolsni | well, wait a second |
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00:15.40 | Sho_ | DawnLight: Nope |
00:15.44 | wolsni | come to think of it my touchbad counts as a 7-button mouse |
00:15.44 | sabgenton | sysop2: i jus which kde in the konquor settings had a think where u could put actions to a mouse button |
00:15.54 | wolsni | i've been able to scroll with it as long as I can remember |
00:16.42 | sabgenton | sysop2: have u knowtice that in kde355 u could't scroll left and right but in 357 u can? |
00:17.22 | sabgenton | thats the only thing i don't like about kde u can set buttons to do a bunch of stuff |
00:17.23 | sysop2 | sabgenton, hmm dont know. I used xmodmap to make granny keys on my keyboard work. havent tried the extra buttons on my mouse yet. I wrote a script to make it easy to setup xmodmap under kde. I can send it to you if you wants. its a bash script using kdialog. its a hack but it works. |
00:18.36 | sabgenton | i also wish i could tell the win key to bring up the kmenu |
00:18.36 | sabgenton | but i HAVE to do a win + something |
00:18.36 | sabgenton | grr |
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00:18.37 | sabgenton | im shure there is a way to do that in gnome |
00:18.45 | sabgenton | mabye kde 4 will have it |
00:18.47 | sysop2 | here is my problem I would press my keys in the kde setup and kde wouldnt recognize them. then I used kmodmap to map them to xfunctions then kde would see the keys |
00:19.43 | sysop2 | not the same as your problem, sorry. |
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00:19.44 | ubuntu_ | sysop2: thanks |
00:19.49 | sysop2 | np ubuntu_ |
00:20.25 | ubuntu_ | Wonder why that happens |
00:20.26 | sabgenton | they kmodmap |
00:20.28 | sabgenton | hmm |
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00:20.44 | sysop2 | xmodmap sorry |
00:20.52 | sabgenton | oh |
00:20.59 | sabgenton | :( |
00:21.01 | sabgenton | :P |
00:21.34 | sabgenton | kde seems to be getting better though my side buttons at least do somting now |
00:21.44 | sabgenton | scroll that is |
00:22.17 | sabgenton | im guessing it was intended for thouse mice where u can move the wheel side to side |
00:23.44 | sabgenton | kde4 must have someting at its release |
00:24.00 | ubuntu_ | Must it? |
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00:34.19 | sysop2 | hey is there going to be a kde4 release party? |
00:34.42 | aseigo | sysop2: yes =) |
00:34.48 | timrs | is there a way to add your own language to highlight into kwrite or kde's embeded advanced text editor? |
00:35.04 | aseigo | sysop2: there's a big one, including a dog-n-pony show for press types, jan 17-18 in mountain view, california |
00:35.18 | sysop2 | sweet where and when! I will show up. although I will be in peru in january. so if they are late I might miss it. |
00:35.50 | aseigo | timrs: yes... if you look in `kde-config --prefix`/share/apps/kateaprt/syntax/ you'll see the general idea |
00:36.09 | aseigo | sysop2: the date for the event is fixed in stone at this point. |
00:36.24 | aseigo | sysop2: we made it way after the release date we expected (at the time october) so we could allow for slippage |
00:36.31 | aseigo | sysop2: wisdom, it turns out ;) |
00:37.06 | aseigo | sysop2: where -> google's hq ... when, the 17th all day and hacking on the 18th, assuming some of us manage to get vertical ;) |
00:37.21 | aseigo | sysop2: we'll be announcing details in the next couple of months. |
00:37.28 | aseigo | e.g. before november |
00:38.20 | aseigo | we're also planning on some events on the same day in places like berlin ... |
00:38.21 | aseigo | and hopefully people in the wider community will set up their own little parties =) |
00:38.25 | aseigo | we're working on getting the presentation part webcast live so others can "tune in" and join for that part too |
00:39.03 | sabgenton | heres another anoying thing i changed konqueror so middle click opens a page in new tab no window so i don't have to ctrl middle click |
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00:39.15 | sabgenton | but now ctrl middle click does nothing |
00:39.17 | timrs | aseigo: thnx |
00:39.29 | aseigo | timrs: np.. i think there is docu on the web about this as well ... |
00:39.40 | sabgenton | i can make it the way to open new window instead |
00:39.54 | aseigo | timrs: http://docs.kde.org/stable/en/kdebase/kate/katehighlight-system.html |
00:40.09 | aseigo | timrs: btw, in kde4, you can now script these i believe using js and what not |
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00:42.31 | timrs | aseigo: thnx |
00:43.49 | stoned | hey guys |
00:45.49 | timrs | hey |
00:45.56 | Angelus | sup stoner |
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00:56.03 | stoned | hi Angelus |
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00:56.17 | sabgenton | can i write closed source in kdevelop |
00:56.20 | sabgenton | in KDE/qt c++ |
00:56.25 | sabgenton | or is it to closely conected to qt desiner |
00:56.29 | sabgenton | I have both instaled so I wondering if kdevelop depends on the other, i wouln't know |
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01:01.00 | phlux | How do I get rid of the image on the left of the "KMenu"? |
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01:03.16 | phlux | got it |
01:05.28 | akSeya | hi there... i'm trying to install kde4 system wide wish kdesvn-build... is there a good tutorial anywhere? |
01:07.15 | akSeya | i am following almost the same steps to install to only one user, but i believe that the .bashrc is what i'm missing.. |
01:07.35 | akSeya | I created another file with that content and executed it before start compiling |
01:07.44 | akSeya | but looks like it didn't work... |
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01:12.39 | DaSkreech | akSeya: techbase I think |
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01:22.12 | akSeya | DaSkreech, yeap.. that's the one i'm following.. but i didn't find anything on how to do a system wide installation. |
01:22.24 | phlux | Is there a program with KDE that will mount an NTFS harddrive for me? :P |
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01:23.50 | BonBonTheJon | phlux: fstab can do it |
01:24.06 | phlux | Did I mention it's remote? :\ |
01:24.39 | akSeya | here is the kdesupport error log: http://pastebin.com/m1c188935 |
01:24.57 | BonBonTheJon | phlux: I dont know if you can do that. You could do it with NFS |
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01:26.58 | akSeya | phlux, the NTFS harddrive is on a remote machine and you want to mount it localy? |
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01:27.58 | phlux | akSeya, Exactly |
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01:28.13 | akSeya | remote on the same LAN or on internet? |
01:28.17 | phlux | same LAN |
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01:28.59 | akSeya | hum.. so it's easy.. |
01:29.15 | akSeya | just make the HD avaible for other on the lan |
01:29.22 | akSeya | using windows sharing |
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01:29.30 | akSeya | then mount it with samba |
01:29.41 | BonBonTheJon | phlux: ahhh... Samba. |
01:29.47 | akSeya | mount -t smb //xp_machine_IP/xp_share /local/mount/point" |
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01:30.15 | phlux | I need to supply a password for it |
01:30.24 | phlux | Well, username and password |
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01:30.32 | phlux | It's Vista's filesharing stuff on that box |
01:30.50 | phlux | so I need to supply a username, password, uid and gid |
01:31.16 | akSeya | you can probably leave it blank |
01:31.26 | phlux | nope :\ |
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01:31.47 | akSeya | with XP it works.. don't know much about Vista :( |
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01:32.52 | akSeya | phlux, have you tried Administrator and vista admin password? |
01:33.22 | phlux | I don't know how to give "mount" the option to supply a password |
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01:33.33 | phlux | would it be -o username=Kevin,password=password? |
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01:35.18 | akSeya | phlux, yeap.. that's it |
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01:36.03 | NetDude | can anyone tell me how to enable tcp port 6000 listening on kde/kdm fedora core 7? there is a nolisten line which I removed but still nothing listening to port 6000 |
01:36.11 | NetDude | after restart of course |
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01:43.56 | akSeya | i have qt-copy installed system wide.. may be this the cause of that errors? |
01:44.11 | akSeya | http://pastebin.com/m1c188935 |
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02:02.12 | derek__ | akSeya: when you ran it, what was the command? |
02:02.19 | derek__ | akSeya: cmake that is |
02:02.39 | akSeya | derek__, i'm using the kdesvn-build script |
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02:04.21 | derek__ | akSeya: there must be something borked in the script. |
02:04.37 | akSeya | :( |
02:04.46 | akSeya | derek__, what do you suggest? |
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02:05.41 | aseigo | akSeya: try deleting /src/kdesvn/build/kdesupport/CMakeCache.txt and start again |
02:05.51 | akSeya | aseigo, already did that :( |
02:06.08 | aseigo | ok, try deleting /src/kdesvn/build/kdesupport |
02:06.15 | derek__ | akSeya: do you have a link handy for kdesvn-build? I could look but... |
02:06.38 | akSeya | derek__, just one sec.. |
02:07.02 | akSeya | derek__, http://kdesvn-build.kde.org/ |
02:07.09 | aseigo | akSeya: btw, you should also try and install the redland packages for you system so you get nepomuk =) |
02:07.20 | Jucato | DaSkreech: bow to aseigo more :) |
02:07.34 | akSeya | aseigo, yeap.. also did that :p |
02:07.39 | Jucato | hahah |
02:07.46 | Jucato | aseigo, the great survivor of nanakuli :P |
02:07.57 | aseigo | haha.. yeah... that was so funny.. |
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02:08.19 | DaSkreech | must.. sta.... |
02:08.50 | derek__ | somehow I think something released on may 11 2007 probably won't work :) |
02:10.15 | Jucato | aseigo: kuick Qt/KDE widget question: is it possible to create non-rectangular/irregular shaped widgets using Qt? for example a window or a button shaped in (aseigo's?) head? |
02:11.12 | DaSkreech | alphaed pngs? :) |
02:11.45 | Jucato | svg's would be better... heheh |
02:11.53 | aseigo | Jucato: sure http://trolltech.com/developer/knowledgebase/356/ |
02:12.10 | Jucato | yay!! thanks! :) |
02:12.49 | aseigo | Jucato: if you don't care about propagating events, you can just not paint the areas you want transparent |
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02:13.18 | aseigo | Jucato: but if you want proper event propogation and what not you need to set a mask |
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02:13.47 | suddent | when i try to open a .exe it askes me what to open it with. what program do i select |
02:14.02 | akSeya | suddent, do you have wine installed? |
02:14.06 | suddent | nope |
02:14.09 | suddent | im guessing i need that |
02:14.22 | Jucato | aseigo: thanks! I'm building up references. just got my Qt 4 (trolltech) book a month back. so excited to finish my C++ stuff and move on to Qt and eventually to KDE :) |
02:14.25 | DaSkreech | suddent: what Exe? |
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02:15.05 | suddent | im trying to install wow |
02:15.26 | DaSkreech | Oh yeah |
02:15.30 | DaSkreech | really need wine for that :) |
02:15.33 | suddent | ok |
02:15.40 | suddent | does 0.9.44 work? |
02:15.45 | DaSkreech | I'm sure that's been thorughly docuemtned |
02:15.57 | suddent | also does ventrilo work with linux? |
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02:20.07 | suddent | hello? |
02:20.26 | danf_1979 | world |
02:20.32 | suddent | lol.. |
02:20.38 | wolsni | suddent: wine questions don't really belong in this channel |
02:20.44 | suddent | ok |
02:20.46 | suddent | sorry |
02:20.48 | wolsni | i believe they have a compatibility list online |
02:21.06 | wolsni | http://appdb.winehq.org/ |
02:21.09 | DaSkreech | suddent: http://winehq.org |
02:21.18 | suddent | thanks |
02:21.37 | Jucato | suddent: #winehq too |
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02:23.44 | downs | um, I'm getting a weird problem with fuse and using gwenview to look at a custom filesystem |
02:23.47 | gnoob | does kopete have a graphic that shows me when I have an e-mail? |
02:23.57 | downs | (the fuse mod is selfmade; it's my first try) |
02:24.09 | downs | so, gwenview tries to generate thumbnails, manages to create one, then crashes with |
02:24.20 | downs | ASSERT: "subjobs.isEmpty()" in thumbnailloadjob.cpp (567) |
02:24.20 | fearl | gnoob: for MSN and Yahoo it does... rather annoying cuz I can't find where to turn it off... I use my yahoo account for Junk |
02:24.33 | Jucato | gnoob: yes |
02:25.04 | gnoob | where does it show up? |
02:25.07 | downs | thumbnails work in konqueror. |
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02:25.19 | Jucato | gnoob: Settings -> Configure Notifications |
02:25.25 | Jucato | fearl: for you too |
02:25.27 | fearl | gnoob: By default... it is a pop up. |
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02:26.12 | gnoob | yes, I see the pop up but if i miss the pop up is there anything else that will tell me like a e-mail icon or something? |
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02:26.29 | Jucato | hm.. no... |
02:26.35 | Jucato | that would be the work of an e-mail client though.. |
02:27.07 | gnoob | OK, thanks. |
02:27.27 | fearl | gnoob: kmail can chill in the system tray... surely better? |
02:27.36 | wolsni | gnoob: you could make it pop up a messagebox |
02:27.58 | fearl | gnoob: Instant Messengers are for... umm... instant messaging.... |
02:28.34 | fearl | wolsni: Hotmail is shit... yahoo makes you pay for POP access. |
02:28.55 | wolsni | fearl: which of those comments helps gnoob with his problem? |
02:29.31 | fearl | wolsni: You'll notice it wasn't a comment directed at him..... |
02:29.34 | killown|away | what's new of kde4? |
02:29.48 | fearl | killown|away: easier to say what is similar... |
02:30.02 | fearl | killown|away: developer.kde.org has a feature list afaik |
02:30.14 | wolsni | killown|away: check out the pillars of KDE articles on dot.kde.org also |
02:30.22 | killown|away | ty |
02:30.23 | wolsni | *KDE4 |
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02:36.18 | downs | no ideas? |
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02:37.48 | derek__ | downs: that error comes when a qlist is accessed that is empty. |
02:38.14 | downs | erm, I'm kinda a fs newb |
02:38.15 | downs | qlist? |
02:38.37 | downs | oh, it's a qt thing |
02:38.43 | downs | :headscratch: |
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02:41.03 | derek__ | downs: your fuse mod is probably the problem :) |
02:41.16 | downs | yeah ._. |
02:41.32 | downs | the problem is that it doesn't crash (anymore) and other apps seem to work |
02:41.40 | downs | so it's kinda hard to find out what the problem is |
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03:02.11 | Sweetandy | Why does everybody hate the GNOME? It's like, the best thing since sliced bread. |
03:02.27 | gnoob | Are you a troll? |
03:02.39 | DaSkreech | Sweetandy: according to the latest polls People actually use it more |
03:02.49 | DaSkreech | So I'm not sure where you are getting that from |
03:02.52 | gnoob | Because of Ubuntu |
03:02.57 | DaSkreech | Shhhhhh |
03:03.03 | DaSkreech | Don't feed the Sweetandy |
03:03.12 | Sweetandy | DaSkreech: I second gnoob's statement |
03:03.16 | Sweetandy | Awe... |
03:03.18 | Sweetandy | I'm not a troll |
03:03.42 | DaSkreech | Sweetandy: then go ask the question in a non biased chan |
03:03.44 | Sweetandy | Everybody I talk to seems to despise it, though it is so much more that perfect to me. I've even used KDE for... well, the majority of my Linux life. |
03:03.46 | DaSkreech | ##linux for starts |
03:03.58 | Sweetandy | Good idea. |
03:04.02 | DaSkreech | thank you |
03:04.24 | gnoob | or ask in the gnome channel. |
03:04.38 | Sweetandy | Did. |
03:04.42 | DaSkreech | Sweetandy: and if you want to start something up in a gnome camp remember they have their own IRC server #gnome isn't officail |
03:04.54 | DaSkreech | official |
03:04.55 | Sweetandy | Ah, all right. |
03:04.58 | saeed | hi all |
03:05.04 | DaSkreech | #gnome on irc.gnome.org |
03:05.04 | Sweetandy | Say, what IS a troll? I thought that troll=flamer. |
03:05.09 | saeed | how do I reinstall styles I have lost:? |
03:05.29 | gnoob | I think anyone that tries to cause trouble is a troll. |
03:05.34 | Sweetandy | DaSkreech: Wow, response from non-biased channel: Because it sucks. |
03:05.42 | DaSkreech | ha ha :) |
03:05.51 | saeed | there are plenty of styles that came with my distro (Sabayon Linux) by default, but somehow, I have lost all except 3 or 4 |
03:05.59 | saeed | how do I reinstall them? |
03:06.04 | DaSkreech | a troll is someone who makes a statement simply to provoke a reaction and has no real interest in the answer |
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03:07.10 | gnoob | Yep, if you want to know why someone would not like gnome. Try it yourself and see. |
03:07.19 | Sweetandy | Well... I would appreciate it if somebody could actually tell me why people diss the GNOME rather than just saying Because it sucks *rolleyes* lol, but I guess I'll move along since this is, as you said, probably not the best channel for the question |
03:07.36 | Sweetandy | gnoob: I use the GNOME and am totally obsessed with it. |
03:07.42 | DaSkreech | Sweetandy: It's two very different ideas of building a DE |
03:07.54 | DaSkreech | if you don't subscribe to it then it's very grating |
03:08.22 | DaSkreech | it's very similar to people who simply cannot use KDE |
03:08.27 | gnoob | It's been a long time since I have tried gnome. |
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03:08.40 | DaSkreech | Sweetandy: Which Distro btw? |
03:08.47 | gnoob | It's like trying to move to OSX from windows. It just makes not sense. |
03:08.51 | gnoob | no*\ |
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03:09.08 | gnoob | OSX is a crazy designed interface. |
03:09.17 | Sweetandy | DaSkreech: Erm... currently Ubuntu, though I used to use Debian and FreeBSD |
03:09.17 | DaSkreech | gnoob: more like trying to move to OSX from BeOS |
03:09.29 | DaSkreech | Sweetandy: Yeah they do a good job of polishing Gnome |
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03:09.46 | gnoob | I have not tried BeOS |
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03:10.37 | DaSkreech | Sweetandy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_(Internet) |
03:10.45 | DaSkreech | gnoob: try HaikuOS |
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03:13.50 | gnoob | Looks interesting. Looks simplistic. |
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03:14.45 | DaSkreech | Yeah but quite pliable |
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03:15.15 | DaSkreech | Where as macOSX is gorgeous but quite a stick in the ... |
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03:15.51 | gnoob | I need to clean up my HDD and try something like that. just to say I did. |
03:16.04 | mario | Hola alguien habla castellano? |
03:16.44 | DaSkreech | #kde-es |
03:17.09 | mario | ok Thanks |
03:19.15 | downs | I can't figure out why gv doesn't work ._. |
03:19.42 | downs | *gwenview |
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03:21.03 | deatheater | so yeah they banned me from #saybayon |
03:21.13 | deatheater | hope i spelled that right |
03:21.31 | deatheater | i wonder if you can help me with my problem |
03:21.34 | deatheater | uhh |
03:22.07 | deatheater | i need to get my kernal sources |
03:22.23 | deatheater | so that vmware can fdetect the version |
03:22.31 | deatheater | whoops |
03:22.37 | deatheater | **detect |
03:23.51 | gnoob | deatheater; why did they ban you>? |
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03:25.48 | deatheater | i mimmiced wolfden |
03:25.53 | deatheater | that bastard |
03:26.02 | deatheater | i was sakurako then |
03:26.10 | deatheater | now i am deatheater |
03:26.36 | deatheater | he got all mad and stuff |
03:26.42 | deatheater | if i had his ip |
03:26.54 | deatheater | lets just leave it at that |
03:27.53 | deatheater | #sabayon-dev-help |
03:28.03 | deatheater | hey it worked |
03:28.06 | deatheater | bye |
03:28.55 | downs | hah! fixed it |
03:29.04 | downs | apparently, gwenview can't deal with the file dates being 0. |
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04:02.37 | CPrgmSwR2 | Can anyone offer me help on compile #kde |
04:02.52 | CPrgmSwR2 | I am getting some strange errors that are not normal |
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04:37.39 | logwq | "nvidia quadro 3400" driver couldn't be configured,why? |
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04:47.47 | DaSkreech | hi CPrgmSwR2 |
04:47.51 | DaSkreech | KDe4 I assume |
04:47.52 | CPrgmSwR2 | Hi |
04:47.57 | CPrgmSwR2 | yes |
04:48.05 | DaSkreech | You followed techbase ? |
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04:50.14 | CPrgmSwR2 | DaSkreech: yes, I think I found the problem, just waiting to confirm it |
04:50.36 | CPrgmSwR2 | it appears that when mysql is built with embedded support, it causes stuff not to build in kde4 |
04:50.55 | CPrgmSwR2 | http://rafb.net/p/Fx7Axj33.html |
04:51.03 | CPrgmSwR2 | there is a view of the error I get |
04:51.03 | DaSkreech | ok |
04:52.35 | dal | hey all, im playing around with ksysguard and its related kicker applet - I figured there'd be a way of getting it to spit out free space on a certain partiton in Gb/Mb/Kb but all it seems to want to do is give me a value in blocks, which doesn't seem to have any direct correlation to human-readable units of measurement - i.e. right now i have 200Mb free on said drive which is apparently 293,310 blocks...does anyone know of a way to get it to give me Gb |
04:52.36 | dal | or MB instead? :) |
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05:03.41 | Anonycat | Does anyone have any idea how anything can get into newly-created space below the statusbar in Konqueror? |
05:04.07 | Anonycat | http://soniccenter.org/sm/images/adblockkkkkkk.png - I know it happens when viewing a standalone image, but don't know why |
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05:25.27 | progress0r | hey all, is there a way to assign a keyboard shortcut to shade a gvim window? (im trying to duplicate the yakuake console but for gvim) |
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05:28.13 | hengha | can anyone recommend a burner software on kubuntu 7.04 ? |
05:28.26 | progress0r | k3b |
05:28.46 | hengha | o |
05:28.57 | stdin | pre-installed too |
05:29.07 | hengha | btw, is adept manager based on aptitude ? |
05:29.10 | progress0r | works like a charm also |
05:29.20 | stdin | hengha: no |
05:29.22 | hengha | is it the gui of that ? |
05:29.25 | progress0r | dunno i always use aptitude or dselect ;) |
05:29.41 | stdin | adept is a gui for apt |
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05:30.32 | hengha | o, is there any gui front of aptitude ? |
05:31.04 | stdin | type "aptitude" in a shell, it has it's own interface |
05:31.11 | hengha | o |
05:36.05 | __CC__ | wats the channel for oss drivers ?? |
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05:38.18 | holycow | there is no such thing |
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05:39.16 | __CC__ | where do i go for oss issues |
05:39.22 | __CC__ | my sound too slow |
05:39.31 | holycow | depends on your distro |
05:39.47 | hengha | I installed amule and amule-gui on kubuntu 7.04 , however, I got nothing popup after clicking it, any idea to track down the problem ? |
05:39.47 | holycow | if you are running kubuntu then its #kubuntu |
05:39.56 | __CC__ | fedora |
05:40.04 | holycow | try #fedora then |
05:40.10 | __CC__ | k |
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05:44.07 | DaSkreech | http://www.thelinuxvault.net/wiki/KDE |
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05:47.51 | pip | Jucato, Hi |
05:47.58 | Jucato | hi |
05:48.12 | pip | Jucato, Master ,do you know how to delete indexes generated by kchmviewer ? |
05:48.18 | Alphinux | Hi, Im on RHEL5 I cant get the moodin thing installed. Any one knows what to do? after the ./make I get a Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths! |
05:48.20 | Jucato | er.. no.. sorry |
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05:49.53 | pip | Jucato, KDE often generates some garbage |
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05:50.15 | Jucato | one man's garabe is the system's gold... :) |
05:51.05 | phlux | Hmm |
05:51.17 | phlux | What's that command that KDE does when you first start it that sets all of those settings? |
05:51.26 | Jucato | kpersonalizer |
05:51.29 | __CC__ | how do i uninstall alsa |
05:51.55 | Jucato | __CC__: have to ask that in #fedora but if you uninstall it, how will you have sound? |
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06:01.28 | Jucato | hi AmyRose (in here too) |
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06:20.12 | danf_1979 | argh, konqueror keeps on messing with my directories, adding a .directory file |
06:20.23 | danf_1979 | is there anyway to make it not do that? |
06:20.54 | Jucato | I think it's how it saves per-directory view settings. you always have View Hidden Files turned on? |
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06:22.28 | danf_1979 | no, not always, but this should not be like this. I have plenty project directories and or svn directories that I always browse. I hate having dot files in a tar.gz program |
06:22.47 | danf_1979 | file* |
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06:57.11 | Borg^Queen1 | Hi people, I'm trying to build kshowmail, but keep getting this error |
06:57.14 | Borg^Queen1 | If this token and others are legitimate, please use m4_pattern_allow. |
06:57.42 | Borg^Queen1 | I have automake 1.10 and autoconf 2.61 installed |
06:57.50 | Borg^Queen1 | along with all the other devel packages I need to build it, |
06:58.02 | Borg^Queen1 | How do I reconfig it to use the newer version? |
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08:00.53 | jakobt | Hello, all my programs using kwallet have stopped working, if i run kwalletmanager nothing happens... |
08:01.23 | jakobt | i have just reinstalled the packages.. it did not help.. |
08:01.57 | jakobt | i have run "find -iname '*kwallet*' | xargs rm -f" |
08:02.10 | jakobt | still it refuses to start... |
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08:02.26 | jakobt | anyone have any suggestions to what i could do now? |
08:02.55 | jakobt | (using kde 3.5.7) |
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08:11.19 | AlvaroFX | http://www.gamedev.net/community/forums/topic.asp?topic_id=462318 |
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09:06.14 | RivaeAerya | I've just downloaded Mac OS X fonts, and i set them up, but they don't look smooth to me.. they look square. How can i fix this? |
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09:07.12 | Narishma | RivaeAerya: have you enabled antialiasing ? |
09:07.24 | RivaeAerya | Narishma: Yes. Full power, RGB |
09:08.01 | Narishma | and the other fonts aren't smooth either ? |
09:08.20 | RivaeAerya | not really smooth, no |
09:08.25 | RivaeAerya | not jagged, but not really round |
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09:08.49 | Narishma | can you take a screenshot ? |
09:09.00 | RivaeAerya | sure |
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09:10.23 | RivaeAerya | http://img372.imageshack.us/img372/8489/fontson2.png |
09:10.25 | RivaeAerya | Narishma: http://img372.imageshack.us/img372/8489/fontson2.png |
09:11.28 | Narishma | yeah I see what you mean |
09:11.29 | RivaeAerya | I was at the library a while ago and could browse the internet on one of their computers. it was a mac and had really smooth fonts |
09:11.44 | Narishma | I get things like that with some fonts but not with others |
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09:11.52 | RivaeAerya | Narishma: I get things like that with them all |
09:12.07 | Narishma | I think it's because macs have a different font renderer than linux |
09:12.15 | RivaeAerya | hm |
09:12.41 | RivaeAerya | once i tried out something other than Ubuntu and it had the same smooth fonts as mac. but never on kubuntu or ubuntu |
09:12.46 | Narishma | have you tried playing with different levels of hinting ? |
09:12.51 | RivaeAerya | yes |
09:12.58 | RivaeAerya | but not with the RGB settings |
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09:14.34 | RivaeAerya | RivaeAerya: hmm doesn't change anything |
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09:15.14 | tapo | let's say I have a model class ThingPeer with a constant/column ThingPeer::EVENT_TYPE -- how can I access this with $peername = "ThingPeer"; ? $peername::EVENT_TYPE -> Parse error: syntax error, unexpected T_PAAMAYIM_NEKUDOTAYIM.... |
09:16.21 | pinotree | tapo: ##c++ ? |
09:16.29 | tapo | n PHP5 |
09:16.36 | RivaeAerya | Narishma: hmm it does change it, if i set it on Middle setting it will get very bold but smooth |
09:16.36 | Narishma | RivaeAerya: here's how it looks on my machine http://enderu666.free.fr/scrot.png |
09:16.42 | pinotree | tapo: then #php? |
09:16.46 | tapo | ok |
09:18.03 | RivaeAerya | Narishma: the system settings thing works well :) |
09:18.27 | RivaeAerya | Narishma: yup it solved it |
09:18.34 | Narishma | RivaeAerya: ok |
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09:19.06 | RivaeAerya | Narishma: how can i set the fonts to KDE default? |
09:19.25 | Narishma | I don't know if kde has any default fonts |
09:19.33 | Anonycat | http://soniccenter.org/sm/images/adblockkkkkkk.png - I get an extra icon every time Konqueror's embedded image viewer is called. Why is this happening? |
09:19.35 | Jucato | Sans I think |
09:19.39 | RivaeAerya | Narishma: hmm well system default then |
09:19.40 | RivaeAerya | Jucato: thanks |
09:20.06 | Jucato | Anonycat: online image? might be the Filter/Adblock extension |
09:20.09 | RivaeAerya | Jucato: only have Sans Serif |
09:20.14 | Jucato | same :) |
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09:20.40 | Anonycat | local and remote both cause that; I do have the extension but have no idea what about it could be putting icons in that space or how to stop it |
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09:23.07 | AlvaroFX | What is the latest version of stable KDE btw |
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09:23.47 | pinotree | 3.5.7 |
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09:24.12 | RivaeAerya | Thanks. that really solved the whole font problem |
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09:27.31 | bkw | It works to send the commands from cutecom, but not from terminal, why? |
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09:30.59 | Jucato | bkw: try asking in your distro's channel or in ##bash |
09:31.26 | bkw | ok |
09:31.41 | RivaeAerya | Jucato: Thanks. That solved the font problem |
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09:32.25 | Jucato | RivaeAerya: you're welcome |
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10:53.04 | RivaeAerya | Hey. Does anybody know how to tile windows in kde? |
10:53.37 | RivaeAerya | like this: http://www.suckless.org/~jg/wmii-20070228.png |
10:53.39 | RivaeAerya | but then in KDE |
10:54.29 | d347hm4n | no sorry |
10:54.33 | d347hm4n | is that flux or so |
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10:55.43 | RivaeAerya | no it's called wmii |
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11:03.11 | jhatleli1 | Hi all, I am trying to force X fonts to 96x96. They are at 20x20, My Res is 1280x720 (720p HD). I have tried to add "-dpi 96" and ScreenSize in Xorg.conf with no luck. The driver is a i810 (i915) driver/chipset. I allso set Xft.dpi: 96 in Xresources |
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11:07.14 | solemnwarning | Hi all |
11:07.34 | solemnwarning | Has anyone managed to get konqueror to use a SOCKS proxy created by ssh -D? |
11:08.01 | solemnwarning | It works with firefox but not konqueror |
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11:15.58 | ringerc | Could konq expect SOCKS5? |
11:16.13 | pip | is there any GUI ftp client ? |
11:16.22 | ringerc | oops, looks like they added socks5 in ssh anyway |
11:16.23 | solemnwarning | pip: konqueror? |
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11:16.29 | pip | solemnwarning, others ? |
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11:16.58 | solemnwarning | gftp |
11:16.58 | ringerc | pip: use ftp://user@host/path URLs in konq if you want something KDE-like; otherwise there's gftp I guess. |
11:17.23 | solemnwarning | Whenever I try using ssh -D with konq I get an error like this: |
11:17.24 | solemnwarning | An error occurred while loading http://www.google.co.uk: |
11:17.25 | solemnwarning | Connection to host www.google.co.uk is broken. |
11:17.32 | pip | thanks |
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11:19.09 | ringerc | solemnwarning: What does the "Test" button in the socks settings do for you? |
11:19.14 | pinotree | solemnwarning: http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=147340 |
11:19.30 | solemnwarning | "SOCKS could not be loaded" |
11:20.37 | solemnwarning | What am I missing> |
11:20.57 | pinotree | solemnwarning: what you want is not supported yet, see the link i gave you |
11:21.14 | solemnwarning | Not supported?! |
11:21.22 | pinotree | read that, please |
11:21.23 | solemnwarning | Why is there a SOCKS tab if it's not supported!? |
11:21.35 | ringerc | SOCKS is supported, just not the SOCKS provided by ssh apparently; see the bug. |
11:22.09 | solemnwarning | Wha.? |
11:22.21 | solemnwarning | Isn't SOCKS a standard? |
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11:23.14 | ringerc | Yep, but that doesn't mean implementation specific assumptions can't be an issue. In this case it seems Konq's attempt to be smart and auto-configuring is the trouble. |
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11:23.37 | ringerc | solemnwarning: You can probably use a SOCKS wrapper though |
11:24.28 | ringerc | solemnwarning: On the other hand... you wouldn't be on Debian by any chance? |
11:24.29 | solemnwarning | IE has better SOCKS support then konq... >_> |
11:24.32 | solemnwarning | Yeah |
11:24.49 | ringerc | OK, please quit with the complaining. I don't even like or use konq, I'm trying to help, and you're whining. |
11:24.52 | ringerc | Anyway.... |
11:25.02 | ringerc | apt-get install libsocks4 |
11:25.26 | ringerc | It still fails, but with a different error ;-) |
11:25.45 | ringerc | kdecore (KLibLoader): WARNING: KLibrary: /usr/lib/libsocks.so: undefined symbol: sockaddr2ruleaddress |
11:26.50 | ringerc | IIRC you can't strip libraries you wish to dlopen(...) and Debian strips libraries by policy, so it might just not work due to packaging issues. Not sure if that's it yet. |
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11:27.04 | pinotree | ??? |
11:27.27 | pinotree | stripping a library just removes any debug information |
11:27.37 | solemnwarning | pinotree: Depends what you strip |
11:27.43 | pinotree | symbols are there, especially if exported |
11:27.53 | ringerc | just in a form `nm' can't find? |
11:28.05 | solemnwarning | Hmm |
11:28.17 | solemnwarning | If the libs had no function name symbols shared libs wouldan't work |
11:28.39 | solemnwarning | Since normal shared libs that are linked use dlopen() too |
11:29.12 | ringerc | Valid - there has to be some symbol table information present for dynamic linking to work. |
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11:30.55 | ringerc | I can't get a dump of the symbol table with `objdump -t' or with `nm' |
11:31.01 | ringerc | both report `no symbols' |
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11:31.24 | ringerc | however using libsocksd instead of libsocks4 seems to resolve the dlsym() error |
11:32.28 | ringerc | Still no SOCKS, and no `lo' interface traffic like I'd expect if it was trying to connect to a SOCKS proxy on port 1080 though. |
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11:34.45 | Behzat | how to update kde startup bar for new program links? |
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11:46.49 | ringerc | solemnwarning: Try this: |
11:47.00 | ringerc | solemnwarning: mkdir -p $HOME/.kde/lib/kde3/ |
11:47.10 | ringerc | solemnwarning: sudo apt-get install libsocksd |
11:47.36 | ringerc | solemnwarning: ln -s /usr/lib/libsocksd.so.0.1.0 /home/craig/.kde/lib/kde3/libsocks.so |
11:47.40 | ringerc | solemnwarning: kdeinit |
11:47.48 | ringerc | solemnwarning: ... then re-run the SOCKS test in konq. |
11:48.05 | ringerc | er... in the `ln' line that should be: |
11:48.15 | ringerc | ln -s /usr/lib/libsocksd.so.0.1.0 $HOME/.kde/lib/kde3/libsocks.so |
11:48.16 | ringerc | of course |
11:50.40 | ringerc | solemnwarning: It still doesn't actually *USE* SOCKS though - I suspect your MSIE crack was well on the mark here. |
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11:52.45 | ringerc | solemnwarning: Seems kurt P views it as still broken as of 2007-06-29 too, see http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=23217#c3 |
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11:53.05 | ringerc | solemnwarning: So while there's an issue on Debian where Konq can't find the SOCKS libraries at all, once you get it to do that much it still won't *WORK*. |
11:53.58 | ringerc | solemnwarning: Sorry for being rude earlier, btw. Bad day dealing with users @work. |
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12:04.12 | DexterF | hi |
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12:10.38 | majorjrk | whats the most used user/group gui tool called ? |
12:11.39 | RivaeAerya | I've installed a style called "domino" but i screwed up the config and now i can't find the config. Does anyone of you know where it is? |
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12:12.14 | Jucato | RivaeAerya: KControl -> Apperance & Themes -> Style ? |
12:12.15 | wolsni | RivaeAerya: I believe style settings live in ~/.qt |
12:12.26 | RivaeAerya | wolsni: thanks :) |
12:12.31 | Sho_ | majorjrk: "KUser" in kdeadmin perhaps |
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12:22.52 | BadRobot | KDE rocks and Gnome sucks!!! |
12:23.54 | Narishma | gnome doesn't suck |
12:24.12 | Narishma | it's way better than windows |
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12:30.03 | BadRobot | anything can be better thenwindows |
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12:36.45 | hurr | hello, I suffered a power outage, and now akregator crashes on startup [gentoo kde=3.5.7 akregator=1.2.7] |
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12:38.15 | tue | All through kde 3.4/5.x, kicker had the problem that it did not reappearing when it was set to autohide. This was over two different computers, distributions, fresh installs etc. Does anybody know if this feature will be avaliable in 4.0? |
12:38.47 | tue | (autohide/no animation. didnt run any fancy applets) |
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13:00.26 | tty56 | hi, I started kde "by hand" (with a different wm), now kicker is running, but the apps with systray icons do not attach themselves to the systray, any ideas how to do this? |
13:00.52 | pinotree | are you sure to have the system ray applet on kicker? |
13:01.01 | fedora_ | me? |
13:01.12 | pinotree | ? |
13:01.15 | fedora_ | ?? |
13:01.31 | pinotree | ?? what? i was talking with tty56 |
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13:04.23 | tty56 | pinotree: yep, I have... |
13:04.56 | tty56 | pinotree: dcop kicker Panel listApplets: clockapplet.desktop; systemtrayapplet.desktop |
13:05.01 | pinotree | ok |
13:05.30 | tty56 | I am not sure if this could be the wms fault, or if I missed something when starting kicker... |
13:05.33 | tty56 | and kde |
13:05.58 | tty56 | and if I start kicker with "kicker --waitforwm" it crashes... |
13:06.10 | Sho_ | tty56: The correct way to start KDE with a different WM than kwin would be to export the KDEWM environment variable to the alternate WM and then use the normal startkde script |
13:07.08 | tty56 | *** glibc detected *** kicker: munmap_chunk(): invalid pointer: 0xb7f10247 *** |
13:07.47 | tty56 | Sho_: mhh, ok, but the normal script also start kdesktop etc, which I do not want to start.... |
13:09.03 | tty56 | Sho_: but I will have a try |
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13:09.47 | Sho_ | tty56: I suppose you could modify the startkde script not to start kdesktop |
13:10.34 | tty56 | Sho_: I will have a look, but I already searched for the place where kicker is started and I could not find it... it seems there is some black magic going on ;) |
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13:12.40 | Sho_ | tty56: Right ... kicker and kdesktop are actually started via .desktop files in <kde installation prefix>/share/autostart |
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13:13.32 | tty56 | Sho_: ahh, ok, I guess I grepped the wrong place ;) thanks! |
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13:24.41 | tty56 | Sho_: I just tried with startkde but that does not work either, I guess there is something wrong with my system... thanks! |
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13:38.05 | tty56 | mhh what is even stranger is that skype attached itself to the systray, while kde apps dont.. |
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13:50.09 | liquidat | Question about kiosk: if I want to pre-configure an application's rc file like kmailrc, where can I put it? I understand that general configuration is in /etc/kderc, but what about application specific rc files? |
13:50.49 | Sho_ | <kde install prefix>/share/config |
13:54.18 | liquidat | Ah, just found it. So on my system it would be /usr/share/kde-settings/kde-profile/default/share/config/kmailrc where I should palce everything, together with the [$i] flag, right? |
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14:11.29 | RicardoSSP | Is there any tool for creating kde themes? |
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14:13.03 | pinotree | "kde themes" is a big word, which kind of themes do you want to make? |
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14:14.23 | logixoul | RicardoSSP: are you thinking about the Themes available in kcontrol->appearance->theme manager? |
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14:15.01 | RicardoSSP | pinotree, making themes to change kdm, the appearance of kde, the logo of the splash of kde ;P |
14:15.11 | RicardoSSP | changing everything I mean :) |
14:15.33 | pinotree | then you have to look for the documentations of the various elements |
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14:16.03 | logixoul | RicardoSSP: http://www.gnome.org/projects/gdm/docs/2.8/thememanual.html for KDM |
14:16.05 | RicardoSSP | nice. Or I can download some themes, and see how they work, and what to change there, right? |
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14:16.57 | logixoul | RicardoSSP: about "the appearance of kde", there's Icon Themes, Color Schemes, Widget Styles, Window Decorations and Wallpapers |
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14:17.43 | logixoul | RicardoSSP: of those, Widget Styles normally require knowing C++ and writing the code for them |
14:17.46 | Jucato | window decorations and styles are C++ programs |
14:17.53 | Jucato | bah I was too late :P |
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14:18.32 | logixoul | RicardoSSP: there's also the possibility to make a Widget Style from images only, which is probably what you were thinking of |
14:19.15 | logixoul | RicardoSSP: but styles created this way have some drawbacks, such as being slow, inflexible and generally imperfect |
14:19.43 | logixoul | RicardoSSP: window decorations, also, are generally written in C++ |
14:20.12 | RicardoSSP | right :) |
14:20.14 | logixoul | RicardoSSP: except those that use the DeKorator engine - sharing most of the same drawbacks as image-based widget styles |
14:20.31 | RicardoSSP | So, I will search there. I'm just reading some tutorials and things like that too :) |
14:20.38 | logixoul | k |
14:20.40 | RicardoSSP | But I'm not thinking about work with widgets :) |
14:20.44 | Sho_ | RicardoSSP: Alternatively you could click and read http://docs.kde.org/userguide/customizing-desktop.html, which explains all of the terminology and how they work |
14:20.53 | RicardoSSP | Just changing the appearance |
14:21.11 | logixoul | Sho_: whoa :) |
14:21.22 | Jucato | Sho_: ooh you're there. let me thank you sooooo much for split views! :) |
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14:21.35 | Sho_ | you're welcome ;) |
14:21.41 | Jucato | studying dolphin's source code has never been easier now :) |
14:21.41 | logixoul | split views? where? :) |
14:21.44 | Jucato | ok it's not easy! hahaha |
14:21.49 | Jucato | logixoul: yakuake svn version |
14:21.54 | logixoul | ah cool! |
14:21.57 | Sho_ | Or 2.8_beta1 for that matter |
14:22.04 | Jucato | oh yeah lol |
14:22.19 | Sho_ | logixoul: http://www.kde-apps.org/CONTENT/content-pre2/29153-2.jpg |
14:22.46 | logixoul | I hadn't realized the beta had those. cool. |
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14:23.19 | Sho_ | logixoul: I recommend reading the changelog on http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=29153 or in the tarball |
14:24.04 | logixoul | okay, thx |
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14:24.44 | Jucato | Sho_: also thanks a lot for pointing me to lxer.kde.org!! :) |
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14:24.58 | Sho_ | It's very useful, yeah |
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14:27.00 | Jucato | can't seem to find where KIO::Job is definte though :( |
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14:29.37 | Sho_ | Jucato: In 4 or 3? |
14:30.01 | Jucato | 3 |
14:30.03 | pinotree | Jucato: kdelibs/kio/kio/jobclasses.cpp |
14:30.05 | pinotree | afaik |
14:30.09 | Jucato | oh. thanks! :) |
14:30.42 | Sho_ | In 3 it's definitely jobclasses.h, yes |
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14:32.54 | Jucato | it's weird that I find myself working on things that I don't like initially... system settings, adept, now dolphin :/ |
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14:33.03 | acemo | whats a really light weight music player? |
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14:33.21 | Sho_ | picoxine ;) |
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14:33.29 | Jucato | hahah! |
14:33.35 | wolsni | mplayer at the commandline? |
14:33.37 | Jucato | or sox. both of which are command line players :) |
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14:33.40 | Sho_ | Jucato: Crash management? |
14:33.48 | Jucato | er.. sorry Trash management hahah |
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14:34.49 | Sho_ | Jucato: The Dolphin codebase shouldn't really be involved in that |
14:34.55 | acemo | any light weight music player that is not command line? |
14:35.11 | Jucato | Sho_: except if Dolphin (in KDE 3) doesn't have any context for trash:/ at all |
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14:35.24 | Jucato | basically you can't restore or empty from trash:/ |
14:35.38 | EvilGuru | How can I set the KDE default encoding, as it is currently iso 8859 but I want it to be UTF-8 |
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14:36.55 | Sho_ | Jucato: Yeah, the context menu implementation in the KDE 3 version of Dolphin is very much application-specific (and e.g. duplicates the service menu handling code, iirc) instead of any sharing going on via the libs |
14:37.15 | Sho_ | Jucato: That should be significantly better in 4 right now though |
14:37.54 | Jucato | Sho_: yeah. so I'm practically trying to re-implement the wheel... I doubt you'd like to know why :) |
14:38.18 | Sho_ | Jucato: I can probably guess (Kubuntu's ludicrous enterprise of using Dolphin in Gutsy as default file manager) |
14:38.24 | Jucato | :) |
14:38.44 | Jucato | I had to make a service menu earlier so that we can have right-click -> Compress even! |
14:38.57 | EvilGuru | KDE must get its encoding choice from somewhere |
14:39.01 | Jucato | but even something as simple as that has given me headaches... |
14:39.08 | Sho_ | EvilGuru: Such as your locale |
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14:39.44 | Sho_ | Jucato: In KDE3/Konqueror "Compress" is actually a plugin and not service menus |
14:39.51 | EvilGuru | I believe my locale is en_GB.UTF-8 |
14:40.12 | Jucato | Sho_: yeah. that's the problem. it just doesn't exist in Dolphin :( |
14:40.30 | Jucato | Sho_: and for some strange reason, Dolphin doesn't accept all/all as a ServiceType... |
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14:42.01 | Jucato | Sho_: I don't think anyone's interested in doing it... :( |
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14:42.27 | Jucato | but thanks to my disappearnce, I guess it's too late to remove dolphin |
14:42.30 | Jucato | er I mean, d3lphin :) |
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14:43.47 | Sho_ | Jucato: I don't think anybody should be interested in doing it ... the right thing to do is to continue to use Konq in KDE 3 |
14:44.12 | Jucato | Sho_: as much as I want to say that now.. it's a bit too late... I'll try to do damage control :( |
14:44.28 | Jucato | anyway, I'm interested in seeing Dolphin's code too |
14:45.43 | Sho_ | The code of the KDE 3 version of Dolphin has preciously little to do with the 4 code |
14:46.10 | Jucato | I have both open.. that's why I thank your split views so much ) |
14:46.11 | Jucato | :) |
14:46.32 | Jucato | it's interesting to compare and contrast :) |
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14:47.17 | EvilGuru | Any KOffice devs here? |
14:47.25 | Jucato | #koffice |
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14:49.23 | Anonycat | http://soniccenter.org/sm/images/adblockkkkkkk.png - I get an extra icon every time Konqueror's embedded image viewer is called, likely because of the Adblock improvement extension. How is it able to put icons in that space, and is there a fix? |
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14:52.43 | d0uglas | hi.. any way to get kdm to allow remote vnc connections? i want to be able to vnc into my server and log in as different users without some non-vnc client. Also, for regular kde desktop sharing, how can i get a java vnc client served on 5800? |
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14:53.23 | wolsni | d0uglas: just get the java vnc client applet and host it using the webserver of your choice |
14:54.02 | d0uglas | wolsni: ok will do.. but any idea about the other half of my question? |
14:54.31 | wolsni | not really, i don't need to provide multi-user access to my systems |
14:55.17 | d0uglas | hrmm.. what about sdm? |
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14:55.55 | EvilGuru | d0uglas: I believe TightVNC supports new sessions if you get what I mean |
14:56.49 | d0uglas | tightvncserver, okay i'll toy with that, thanks |
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14:58.41 | logixoul | Anonycat: I've always had this problem with Kubuntu, too. No idea about a fix but you could look it up on the Kubuntu bootracker (that's your distro right)? |
14:58.47 | logixoul | er bugtracker* |
14:58.59 | Anonycat | actually it's Fedora 7 |
14:59.05 | logixoul | oh |
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15:05.32 | EvilGuru | I have heard good things about both |
15:06.18 | Jucato | Sho_: yay for you? :) |
15:06.29 | Jucato | not that you have a choice anyway... PPC right? |
15:06.51 | pinotree | (what about a rock-solid debian?) |
15:06.54 | Sho_ | Jucato: That's one of the reasons, yes |
15:07.31 | EvilGuru | Have Ubuntu stopped supporting PPC now? |
15:07.39 | Sho_ | Yup. |
15:07.45 | Jucato | for quite some time now |
15:07.46 | Tm_T | nope |
15:07.56 | Sho_ | I currently can't get an up-to-date KDE for Kubuntu/PPC, for example. |
15:08.00 | Jucato | Tm_T: yes PPC has *officially* been dropped |
15:08.02 | Tm_T | not now, IIRC 6.06 was last supported |
15:08.05 | Tm_T | Jucato: I know |
15:08.14 | pinotree | Sho_: with debian, you can ;) |
15:08.32 | Tm_T | Jucato: but answer to original question is simply "no" ;) |
15:08.34 | EvilGuru | Seems a bit silly if you ask me, as the PS3 is PPC and would be a good way to get Linux into the home |
15:08.38 | Sho_ | pinotree: I suppose so, but I'm generally not very fond of Debian's toolset, and they've started to apply stupid patches to KDE, too |
15:08.54 | Sho_ | pinotree: But it's certainly a lot better than Kubuntu, yes |
15:09.05 | pinotree | Sho_: surely, kubuntu beats everything else speaking of "stupid patches" |
15:09.28 | Sho_ | pinotree: Part of the reason for Fedora is also interest in trying something new, now that they have started to have good KDE support |
15:09.43 | pinotree | after so many years, at last |
15:09.51 | Sho_ | yeah, but better late than never I guess :) |
15:10.23 | Sho_ | And being on a six-month cycle too it could be sort of a Kubuntu without the dubious decisions in some way |
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15:12.01 | Jucato | :) |
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15:15.28 | Sho_ | I find Fedora's improved KDE support to be pretty exciting, especially given the prospect that that might filter up to RHEL again down the road ... certainly wouldn't hurt |
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15:16.14 | Jucato | hm... KFileItem... |
15:16.24 | Skrot- | KDE support as in offering KDE packages, or do they have well integrated configuration-utilities etc? |
15:16.45 | Jucato | afaik, for now packages only... |
15:17.01 | Jucato | I can't recall any integrated KDE utils in Fedora 7... |
15:17.13 | Jucato | maybe wolsni has a better idea? |
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15:17.24 | Sho_ | Skrot-: Well, with Fedora it used to be like this, the distro used to be seperated into two seperate package trees, one called Core and one called Extras. Core used to be maintained essentially by Red Hat Inc and Extras had more community-involvement. Gnome was in Core, KDE was in Extras. |
15:17.47 | Skrot- | okay, and now? |
15:17.53 | Sho_ | Skrot-: Now in the Fedora 7 cycle, Core and Extras have been rolled into one, and Fedora has started offering a KDE spin with a KDE Live/Install CD |
15:18.09 | Skrot- | i see |
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15:18.33 | Sho_ | Skrot-: So they now have a team working on a properly integrated KDE variant of Fedora (but still using lots of GTK system tools atm) vs. just some packages hanging around in Extras |
15:19.16 | Sho_ | Skrot-: And given that Red Hat Enterprise Linux versions start out based on whatever Fedora is at at the time, and that there is actually a surprising percentage of RHEL customers who consciously install KDE despite the current bad support, chances are a future RHEL is going to end up with a lot stronger KDE support again based on the work done in Fedora |
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15:19.26 | Sho_ | Skrot-: And that's a good prospect for KDE enterprise usage |
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15:19.41 | Skrot- | mhm |
15:19.48 | RicardoSSP | kiosk is a great tool, uh |
15:19.49 | RicardoSSP | :) |
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15:20.37 | Sho_ | Skrot-: In Fedora 7, the KDE spin appeared to be pretty solid to me ... fairly unmodified KDE except for Fedora visuals (wallpaper, color scheme), and a reasonable set of pre-installed default apps (i.e. Amarok instead of Noatun, Konvi instead of KSirc, that kind of thing) |
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15:21.51 | DawnLight | can i have two seperate instances of konqueror? i mean that in terms of authenticated sessions. i want to log in to a site using two accounts simultaniously. what i currently do is use firefox |
15:21.51 | Skrot- | okay |
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15:22.13 | Sho_ | Skrot-: So let's hope that's the dawn of another strong KDE desktop distro |
15:22.18 | Skrot- | mhm |
15:22.43 | Sho_ | Skrot-: The Fedora KDE leader, Rex Dieter, gave a talk on the effort on Akademy this year, video is available from the Akademy site, if you want to know more |
15:22.55 | Hestv4 | hmm, since I changed from gnome to kde, lots of applications fail to start |
15:22.55 | Hestv4 | X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 169 |
15:23.09 | Skrot- | Sho_: I'm pretty content with kubuntu for now :) |
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15:25.32 | Sho_ | Skrot-: Kubuntu isn't bad, but they've dropped support for the CPU architecture of my laptop and I'm unhappy with some of the decisions they've made, and given that Fedora is on a similar six-month cycle and I'm curious about how life is on Fedora it seems like a good replacement choice for me atm |
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15:26.07 | Skrot- | i see :) |
15:26.20 | pioter | cze |
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15:26.41 | colo_mobile | Sho_: I'd love to use Fedora, but I absolutely despise rpm |
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15:26.53 | pioter | POLAND ?? |
15:27.08 | benJIman | colo_mobile: It's technically superior to deb&dpkg |
15:27.25 | logixoul | pioter: ---> #kde-pl |
15:27.36 | pioter | thx |
15:28.05 | colo_mobile | benJIman: I can kid myself, thank you |
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15:28.33 | Sho_ | colo_mobile: The last time I've used an RPM-distro for more than a day was quite a few years ago, so I'll see what has changed or not |
15:28.35 | Hestv4 | ahhh |
15:28.38 | benJIman | colo_mobile: dependencies are far more flexible. |
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15:28.41 | Hestv4 | wacom stuff |
15:28.54 | benJIman | You have things like FRESHENS and ENHANCES as well as recommends/requires |
15:28.55 | EvilGuru | Random question: what is the correct spelling of the word surcome, as in to surcome to? |
15:28.56 | Sho_ | colo_mobile: My quick stint with the F7 Live-CD and installing some stuff didn't seem particularly painful though |
15:29.05 | benJIman | Also you have file or system based dependdencies |
15:29.10 | benJIman | Instead of just package dependencies. |
15:29.24 | Sho_ | EvilGuru: You probably mean "succumb" |
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15:29.40 | logixoul | or surmount |
15:29.50 | EvilGuru | Sho_ > Google spell checker |
15:29.58 | Sho_ | \o/ |
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15:32.11 | Sho_ | Hmm |
15:32.14 | Sho_ | "QT4 Linux builds are now available, complete with support for native QT skins" |
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15:32.19 | Sho_ | (Opera 9.5 changelog) |
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15:33.03 | logixoul | sweet! |
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15:33.16 | logixoul | I never really found a good, calm Opera skin |
15:33.19 | colo_mobile | yeah, now just MIT, BSD or GPL it |
15:33.56 | Sho_ | colo_mobile: Yeah, using Opera is inacceptable to me too -- still a nice improvement though |
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15:36.53 | EvilGuru | It is a nice browser, but I prefer open source alternatives (FF and Konq) |
15:38.10 | colo_mobile | konqueror ftw |
15:38.19 | colo_mobile | I'm looking forward to webkit integration though |
15:38.34 | killown|away | kio slave sysinfo:/ not works in d3lphin on kde 3.5.7 why? |
15:38.37 | colo_mobile | as much as I love KHMTL, it obviously has its drawbacks (in compatibility) |
15:38.41 | Jucato | looking forward to fixes and dolphin integration :) |
15:39.03 | Jucato | killown|away: I think because dolphin is incapable of viewing HTML |
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15:39.30 | Jucato | and sysinfo:/ seems to generate an HTML page |
15:39.49 | killown|away | Jucato then in kde4 not goes have sysinfo slave? |
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15:40.21 | Jucato | killown|away: maybe not for Dolphin, but for Konqueror |
15:40.29 | killown|away | Jucato, then if it is html can I set it in my desktop as wallpaper? |
15:40.33 | Jucato | I don't even know if sysinfo:/ is upstream already |
15:40.38 | Jucato | ?? |
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15:41.00 | Sho_ | killown|away: Theoretically yes, but it won't be interactive - the khtml desktop wallpaper provider in KDE 3 generates a static .png image that is set als wallpaper |
15:41.26 | Jucato | thanks for saving my ass on that one ;) |
15:41.26 | killown|away | aa ok thank you Jucato and Sho_ |
15:41.30 | Sho_ | killown|away: but you can set it to be regenerated in a certain interval |
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15:46.34 | shevy | is there a way to edit pdf files? |
15:46.53 | Roey | NO! |
15:46.57 | Roey | that's the problem! :) |
15:47.12 | Roey | you can open them but you can't fill in forms |
15:47.20 | Roey | if that's what you're referring to |
15:47.20 | logixoul | shevy: actually, it's aptly enough called pdfedit ;) |
15:47.26 | Roey | logixoul: it supports forms? |
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15:47.50 | logixoul | no idea, but since it supports editing any text, I guess it supports filling forms too ;) |
15:47.53 | sfmasa | hi, I've got errors when starting kde. as a user (not root): http://pastebin.ca/681115 |
15:47.57 | sfmasa | please help! |
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15:48.34 | logixoul | sfmasa: how are you trying to start KDE? |
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15:50.21 | sfmasa | T_T |
15:50.28 | sfmasa | logixoul thanks, i noobed that up |
15:50.34 | logixoul | heh ok |
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15:50.36 | sfmasa | have a good day! |
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15:54.02 | shevy | ok gonna try that, thanks logixoul |
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16:24.59 | david__ | hello all |
16:25.08 | linux_geek | hi david |
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16:25.52 | david__ | i'm in kubuntu 7.04 and missing the design manager in the kde control center. is there a way to install it??? |
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16:27.21 | linux_geek | guess you might have checked the installation CD |
16:28.12 | linux_geek | be right back |
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16:28.57 | david__ | its just not there. i'd like to install a .kth |
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16:32.29 | logixoul | david__: I'm in Kubuntu 7.04 too. First of all, make sure you're in K Control Center (kcontrol) and not System Settings. |
16:32.34 | logixoul | oh wait |
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16:32.47 | logixoul | right |
16:32.57 | david__ | oh thanks.... |
16:32.57 | logixoul | david__: so, there go to Appearance->Theme Manager |
16:33.11 | logixoul | np |
16:33.17 | david__ | thanks a million times. i was in the system settings... |
16:33.27 | logixoul | btw, I thought .kth files worked with a single click... |
16:33.32 | logixoul | np |
16:33.34 | logixoul | :) |
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16:35.02 | Jucato | .kth are almost practically useless :( |
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16:35.54 | IceD^ | wtf |
16:36.25 | IceD^ | when I'm typing `call foo bar baz` in konqueror in sends me to http://www.qrz.com/.... |
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16:36.38 | IceD^ | and I have only google web shortcut enabled |
16:36.52 | logixoul | iirc that's Google I'm Feeling Lucky ;) |
16:37.09 | logixoul | Jucato: true |
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16:37.26 | IceD^ | logixoul: no way |
16:37.34 | IceD^ | it's qrz web shortcut |
16:37.39 | IceD^ | which I have DISABLED |
16:37.54 | IceD^ | hmmm |
16:37.57 | logixoul | you may have it disabled, but it still can be the "default" set in konq's config |
16:38.02 | IceD^ | all web shortcuts works |
16:38.13 | IceD^ | doesn't matter if they are enabled or disabled |
16:38.15 | IceD^ | weird |
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16:38.52 | IceD^ | and another problem with konqueror |
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16:39.31 | IceD^ | it started showing save as dialogs for ads (like from cpxinteractive.com or rmxads.com) |
16:39.37 | IceD^ | any idea how to disable this? |
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16:43.13 | auTONYmous | really general question: I'm using KDE, and I have change the default xcursor theme, butmy GTK apps are still using the old one. What am I missing? |
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16:47.17 | logixoul | auTONYmous: a X restart? |
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16:49.12 | auTONYmous | logixoul: Rebooted at least twice since changing it.. |
16:49.26 | logixoul | hm |
16:49.51 | logixoul | auTONYmous: dunno then, have you asked in #gnome too? |
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16:54.49 | linux_geek | am back |
16:55.32 | MinceR | yay |
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16:57.14 | marenz | anybody in here using rxvt-unicode as terminal? |
16:57.33 | marenz | i suffer under this mysterious bug that after starting kcontrol i have a big black border in my urxvt, effect can be seen here http://marenz.kicks-ass.org/urxvt.png, would be nice to know if any other user can reproduce this?! |
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16:58.39 | argonel | does anyone care about the kde3 api docs anymore? |
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17:00.21 | logixoul | argonel: #kde-devel |
17:00.41 | argonel | logixoul: whoa, thanks. /me makes the treelist a little wider |
17:00.55 | logixoul | :P |
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17:02.13 | Rasi | hmm |
17:02.15 | Rasi | http://www.moviemaze.de/media/trailer/3493/moving-mcallister.html |
17:02.17 | Rasi | anyone try to rightclick on this page using konqueror |
17:03.09 | Rasi | _normally_ you can only download those videos using rightclick |
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17:03.09 | Rasi | here konqueror doesnt do anything when right clicking |
17:03.09 | logixoul | Rasi: disable js and it works |
17:03.09 | Rasi | on other pages it does, tho |
17:03.09 | Rasi | hm |
17:03.13 | logixoul | Rasi: this site is ran by assholes, do complain ;) |
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17:03.39 | Rasi | damn me... that was obvious |
17:03.42 | logixoul | heh heh |
17:03.45 | root__ | Hellos everyone.... can anyone help his noobie? |
17:03.48 | profoX` | how can I change the default file manager in KDE 3 ? |
17:03.48 | theshadow | Was it? |
17:03.53 | Digital_Pioneer | So I thought KDE4 was doing so well... What's this about it being kicked back to December? :( |
17:04.02 | root__ | *this noobb |
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17:04.11 | Rasi | Digital_Pioneer, better be glad they did |
17:04.20 | Rasi | the more time to mature, the better |
17:04.22 | profoX` | Digital_Pioneer: to provide a -stable- and well-tested desktop environment |
17:04.35 | logixoul | profoX`: change the association for inode/directory |
17:04.38 | Digital_Pioneer | Yeah, but I don't like waiting!! :P |
17:04.50 | Rasi | then get yourself a snapshot |
17:04.57 | profoX` | logixoul: hmm alright |
17:04.57 | Digital_Pioneer | Is it usable yet? |
17:05.05 | root__ | #sabaon |
17:05.06 | profoX` | Digital_Pioneer: define usable |
17:05.10 | Rasi | well its ready for finding more problems :P |
17:05.16 | root__ | # sabayon |
17:05.21 | profoX` | root__: what is your problem |
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17:06.08 | root__ | sigh... generally stupidity and ignorance... I can't get cups to update my samsung printer driver apart from the former s&i |
17:06.25 | marenz | i suffer under this mysterious bug that after starting kcontrol i have a big black border in my urxvt, effect can be seen here http://marenz.kicks-ass.org/urxvt.png, would be nice to know if any other user can reproduce this?! |
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17:07.05 | Digital_Pioneer | profoX`: Usable to me means pretty much all the features are implemented, but they may have the occasional bug. Apps may crash, but I'd prefer it to be fairly uncommon. Is it there yet? |
17:07.22 | profoX` | logixoul: thanks i found it |
17:07.37 | logixoul | хз |
17:07.39 | logixoul | er np |
17:07.40 | pinotree | Digital_Pioneer: then, no |
17:08.11 | _oO-Dad-Oo_ | profox, just got the nick figured out no longer root_ |
17:08.28 | Digital_Pioneer | pinotree: OK, so how far is it? (I thought that was what beta meant, perhaps I overestimate the maturity of beta) |
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17:08.41 | Rasi | marenz, http://carnager.dyndns.org/urxvt.png |
17:08.45 | Rasi | no i dont have that problem |
17:09.13 | pinotree | _oO-Dad-Oo_: apart the hyper-lamer nick, changing it does not change the fact that you still *are* root |
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17:09.43 | marenz | Rasi, thanks for trying to reproduce, may i ask for version of urxvt and your .Xdefaults? |
17:09.54 | pinotree | Digital_Pioneer: the best reply i could give you is to try yourself (compiling yourself, or using distro packages, or trying live cd's) |
17:09.58 | Rasi | of course |
17:10.24 | Rasi | rxvt-unicode (urxvt) v8.3 - released: 2007-08-01 |
17:10.49 | _oO-Dad-Oo_ | thanks pino, i am also profoundly new, ergo I haven't the well thought out and stunning nick that you do... |
17:11.01 | Rasi | marenz, http://carnager.dyndns.org/xdefaults |
17:11.13 | _oO-Dad-Oo_ | <sic> :) |
17:11.18 | Digital_Pioneer | pinotree: Yeah, I suppose that's the best way to find out.... (I'm too lazy to do it again, it all died the first time I did) |
17:11.48 | marenz | Rasi, thank you very much |
17:11.48 | Rasi | marenz, i am using KDEmod tho.. so my KDE itself could be different |
17:13.19 | Digital_Pioneer | Oh well, I guess I'll just have to keep waiting. Too bad. :P |
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17:13.27 | Oliver | is there k3b channel? |
17:13.31 | profoX` | _oO-Dad-Oo_: I don't really understand the problem, and how it is related to KDE (it most likely is not). What printer driver do you use? Did it work before? Why do you think you need to update it? -- and as an aside: I hope you didn't log into the system as "root" as pinotree said, as that is a very dangerous/unsafe thing to do. |
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17:15.01 | marenz | Rasi, must be my .Xdefaults, it works with your .Xdefaults you pasted, so once again thank you very much, now i only have figure out which setting confuses my urxvt |
17:15.02 | _oO-Dad-Oo_ | I have just recently installed KDE. I have the latest drivers from Samsung. |
17:15.24 | _oO-Dad-Oo_ | I was told i had to log into the root to get the drivers to install |
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17:15.33 | marenz | Rasi, btw are you already using urxvtd in conjunction with urxvtc? its great! |
17:15.47 | root__ | witam |
17:16.02 | Rasi | no, never found the time to try it out |
17:16.10 | Rasi | whats the benefit... |
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17:16.35 | marenz | Rasi, blazing fast and minimal memory consupmtion |
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17:16.56 | _oO-Dad-Oo_ | If this forum isn't the correct one, would someone suggest a better one? |
17:18.11 | _oO-Dad-Oo_ | I have been tussling with this problem for the better part of a week and am stumped |
17:18.27 | profoX` | _oO-Dad-Oo_: well you probably misunderstood.. I think you had to install something as the root user, by temporarily enabling root access in a console window (or temporarily starting your filemanager as a root user), but it is bad (unsafe) to run your whole environment as the root user. -- Concerning your printer problem: which linux distribution do you use? And which printer have you got? |
17:18.55 | profoX` | _oO-Dad-Oo_: this isn't a forum, it's an IRC channel ;) but we'll try to help though.. |
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17:19.03 | _oO-Dad-Oo_ | ok ty |
17:19.22 | Skrot- | What's the problem? |
17:19.31 | profoX` | logixoul: hm.. weird.. the default is still Dolphin.. |
17:19.44 | profoX` | logixoul: even though I put Konqueror in the top of the list |
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17:20.16 | profoX` | logixoul: however, it are the quickstarters I try out.. maybe they work differently |
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17:21.16 | sameer99 | can any body help my how to configure my cam on Kde 3.5 , it is not supported on the list |
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17:22.45 | profoX` | sameer99: if it really is not supported, then you probably can't.. what cam do you have, and what list did you get that from? |
17:23.17 | Rasi | marenz, was it part of your distri? |
17:23.20 | Rasi | i cant find it in arch |
17:23.29 | sameer99 | the cam is yaschica ez digital 3013 |
17:23.51 | sameer99 | profoX the cam is yaschica ez digital 3013 |
17:24.01 | profoX` | sameer99: thats a digital photo camera? |
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17:24.19 | sameer99 | yes , it takes video too profoX |
17:24.30 | _oO-Dad-Oo_ | ProfoX, I have a sabayon istallation that has KDE 3.5 |
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17:24.50 | profoX` | sameer99: you want to load the photos on the camera into your computer? how do you try to do that? with a USB cable? |
17:24.58 | voln | hello, kmail doesn't recognize spam, i use bogofilter and crm114 |
17:25.05 | _oO-Dad-Oo_ | profox, I have a samsung 510 |
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17:26.00 | jbesie | hi, i have problem lachning ktorrent on kde4 beta1. Where could i report bug or look for help please ? |
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17:26.47 | sameer99 | prfoX no , i want to take video shots with it , and yes i am usung a usb cable |
17:26.49 | _oO-Dad-Oo_ | and ty for your help everyone.... |
17:28.15 | profoX` | _oO-Dad-Oo_: well, I have no first-hand experience with Sabayon, so I can't really help you there. According to openprinting database it should work with the splix driver for cups. Doesn't Sabayon provide that driver by default? Have you tried installing your printer using your KDE control panel? |
17:29.08 | marenz | Rasi, i'm using gentoo and it's part of the normal package, see http://software.schmorp.de/pkg/rxvt-unicode.html |
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17:30.37 | marenz | Rasi, btw nice colorscheme and configuration for urxvt i'll shamelessly make it to my new default config :-) |
17:30.55 | Rasi | ah |
17:30.58 | Rasi | just tried it |
17:30.59 | Rasi | working |
17:31.00 | Rasi | nice |
17:31.06 | Rasi | lol |
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17:31.14 | Rasi | i stole it myself from some screenshots thread |
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17:34.40 | Rasi | marenz, just sad if urxvtd crashes and you have 5+ shells open |
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17:35.25 | _oO-Dad-Oo_ | can anyone help me find a splix driver? |
17:35.38 | Anonycat | http://soniccenter.org/sm/images/adblockkkkkkk.png - I get an extra icon every time Konqueror's embedded image viewer is called, likely because of the Adblock improvement extension. Why is it putting icons in that space, and is there a fix? |
17:36.20 | marenz | Rasi, yes i read about that, but don't really care, any other tabbed termn like konsole, gnome-terminal might crash like that if you have x tabs opened |
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17:38.33 | _oO-Dad-Oo_ | provox, I can't seem to find a splix driver |
17:38.36 | marenz | Rasi, hrr hrr btw "Crash-free" is a listed feature at http://software.schmorp.de/pkg/rxvt-unicode.html |
17:39.35 | Rasi | yea convinced |
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17:39.50 | Rasi | hmm now is there a way to create a hot-key to start urxvtc in kde? |
17:40.00 | Rasi | i only know how to do hotkeys in openbox :P |
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17:40.42 | Rasi | something like: Win-Key+U opens urxvtc |
17:41.29 | marenz | but i think it's the right channel to ask :-) |
17:41.52 | Rasi | <PROTECTED> |
17:44.37 | marenz | Rasi, kcontrol -> Regional & Accessibility --> Keyboard Shortcuts |
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17:47.23 | Rasi | yea |
17:47.26 | Rasi | wonderful |
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18:03.33 | mcscruff | lo all, is the new kde beta able to run osx widgets? if not will the final be able to? |
18:05.20 | rdale | no i don't think so |
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18:22.38 | linux_geek | hi .. just a small question.. any meeting goin on here ? |
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18:22.50 | LnxSlck | linux_geek, no |
18:22.51 | logixoul | meeting? :) |
18:22.58 | LnxSlck | everyone left for coffe |
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18:30.04 | logixoul | mcscruff: I think I read somewhere that it would. Can't find it right now though. Not in aseigo's blog, it seems. |
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18:30.49 | mcscruff | logixoul, i hope it can! need some pointless widgets |
18:30.56 | aseigo | mcscruff: not until qtwebkit gets an official release ... |
18:31.04 | aseigo | mcscruff: latest would be 4.1 (due to qt 4.4) |
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18:31.41 | mcscruff | ooo |
18:32.06 | aseigo | mcscruff: personally, i wonder if dashboard widget support isn't just one of those "cool! look what it can do!" features that a small number of people end up using ... =) |
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18:32.10 | mcscruff | i tried getting an app called jackfield working but no joy |
18:32.22 | aseigo | mcscruff: not that it'll matter too much since it'll just be another plugin, so no overhead for the other 99% =) |
18:32.31 | mcscruff | :) |
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18:32.49 | mcscruff | i hope kde 4 is enough to make me switch back from gnome to kde |
18:32.49 | aseigo | jackfield is a rather horrible hack last i looked |
18:33.19 | Roey | mcscruff: what's wrong with kde3? |
18:33.47 | Roey | mcscruff: and the fact that you're asking this question gives me the impression that you're not at all in love with gnome |
18:34.01 | mcscruff | im not inlove with gnome |
18:34.07 | Roey | ok |
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18:34.17 | Roey | right that's what I said |
18:34.24 | aseigo | Roey: a lot of people switch back and forth ... choice is nice for those =) |
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18:34.31 | Dark_Apostrophe | aseigo: Hey |
18:34.43 | Dark_Apostrophe | aseigo: I heard KDE4.0 was postponed...how come? |
18:34.56 | aseigo | Dark_Apostrophe: to december. people just needed more time. |
18:34.59 | mcscruff | kde was very nice when i 1st came into linux, then gnome seemed to run better on all my older hardware so i just stayed with it |
18:34.59 | Roey | aseigo: heya :) |
18:35.23 | Dark_Apostrophe | aseigo: When in december do you think it'll be done? Beginning? New-year? |
18:35.31 | aseigo | Dark_Apostrophe: the beta process is finally on track, but not enough people hit the first one so it delayed a number of things |
18:35.40 | aseigo | Dark_Apostrophe: tagging i set for the 6th |
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18:36.00 | Dark_Apostrophe | aseigo: Cool |
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18:37.16 | root__ | Can someone point me to info on: "datarootdir setting"? |
18:37.44 | root__ | esp how does one modify it? |
18:37.45 | Dark_Apostrophe | aseigo: Will KDE4 have a not-quite-as-ugly-as-the-current-one-is version of ksysguard? |
18:38.00 | logixoul | root__: well, you can see where kde is installed with `kde-config --prefix` - is that what you need? |
18:38.01 | Dark_Apostrophe | aseigo: The current ksysguard is cryptic and rather ugly compared to most KDE apps |
18:38.08 | aseigo | Dark_Apostrophe: current one == which version? |
18:38.11 | aseigo | Dark_Apostrophe: kde3? |
18:38.13 | Dark_Apostrophe | Yes |
18:38.19 | logixoul | root__: to change it, edit the $KDEDIR env var |
18:38.54 | root__ | ty logi, i have a conflict with this setting when attempting to install ghostwriter |
18:38.57 | aseigo | Dark_Apostrophe: yes, it's been nearly rewritten ... look a lot nicer. you really should just check things out. you have a lot of curiosity and questions, you could self-service those and help the project out with beta testing =) |
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18:39.20 | logixoul | root__: I believe that's unrelated to KDE - try your distro's channel ;) |
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18:39.28 | Dark_Apostrophe | aseigo: I'm running Debian Sid. I got all the instability I'll need. |
18:39.56 | |Dylan| | hi. my distro is pclinuxos 2007. i have 4 user accounts other than root, and as of this morning only root can log in--the other accounts crash and restart X before even reaching the KDE splash screen.... everything was working flawlessly before. 20 minutes ago i could start a new session through kmenu, but now i cant even do that. does anyone have suggestions for troubleshooting? |
18:40.03 | Dark_Apostrophe | aseigo: BTW, konqueror crashed on me the other night, on my laptop. Mind telling me if the output is worth submitting to bugs.kde? |
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18:41.18 | aseigo | |Dylan|: take a look in the ~/.xsession-error file? |
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18:41.23 | aseigo | Dark_Apostrophe: pastebin it |
18:41.46 | Dark_Apostrophe | aseigo: K, just gotta boot up the laptop |
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18:42.06 | logixoul | |Dylan|: what aseigo said, except it's called ~/.xsession-errors |
18:42.20 | |Dylan| | logixoul, aseigo: for which user? |
18:42.37 | aseigo | |Dylan|: any of the users which can't log in |
18:43.05 | root__ | logixoul... i am too profoundly ignorant i am afraid |
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18:43.51 | aseigo | root__: ghostwriter? the distro? |
18:44.31 | |Dylan| | logixoul aseigo: all users' ./xsession-errors files are empty except for root's, which has one line: stdin: is not a tty |
18:44.38 | Dark_Apostrophe | aseigo: http://paste.debian.net/36229 |
18:44.50 | |Dylan| | how about a kdm log, where might that be? |
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18:45.39 | Tyn | bbiab |
18:45.41 | aseigo | |Dylan|: locate kdm.log ... on my system that's /var/log/kdm.log |
18:46.18 | aseigo | |Dylan|: it's probably not kde related however, but X ... perhaps try recofiguring X |
18:46.26 | Dark_Apostrophe | aseigo: Did you have a look? |
18:46.44 | |Dylan| | aseigo: http://rafb.net/p/szh1sK77.html |
18:47.07 | aseigo | Dark_Apostrophe: seems to be in filelight rather than konqueror itself but the bt isn't particularly useful |
18:47.30 | Dark_Apostrophe | Hmm...well, thanks. |
18:47.32 | |Dylan| | aseigo: im running perfectly fine with root--is it really necessary for me to reconfig X? shouldnt that exclude X config as a culprit? |
18:47.46 | Dark_Apostrophe | It's better to ask then to submit and annoy the people reading the bug tracker :) |
18:48.50 | aseigo | |Dylan|: perhaps, perhaps not. i'm really not familiar with how pclinuxos sets x up (e.g. if it uses a different x config for root or some such) ... most likely issue is permissions related.. hmm. here's an idea: |
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18:49.11 | aseigo | |Dylan|: go to console, log in as one of your users, then run X (just X ... by itself... =) |
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18:49.21 | aseigo | |Dylan|: look at the output you get on the conole |
18:49.23 | aseigo | er, console |
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18:49.27 | |Dylan| | aseigo: its based on mandriva a believe, and uses similar configs. |
18:49.38 | |Dylan| | aseigo: brb. |
18:51.12 | |Dylan| | it seems i cant run more than one X, so brb after killing X. |
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18:54.26 | killown|away | hey. why dolphin on kde 3.5.7 dont show preview videos as http://www.kde-look.org/CONTENT/content-pre2/56040-2.png |
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18:54.58 | Skrot- | eh, sure that's not a mockup? |
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18:55.06 | killown|away | Skrot- ahh |
18:55.21 | xenoterracide | is there a way to control konsole through shell scripts? |
18:55.38 | killown|away | Skrot-, how do I it mockup? |
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18:55.51 | Skrot- | killown|away: huh? |
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18:56.01 | shifty | is there any html editor that can connect to a server using frontpage extensions? |
18:56.04 | Skrot- | killown|away: Mockups are artist rendrings of how they would like thing to be |
18:56.20 | annma | xenoterracide: dcop |
18:56.37 | killown|away | Skrot- ahh understand now |
18:56.39 | killown|away | ty |
18:56.43 | Skrot- | np |
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18:57.55 | xenoterracide | annma dcop what? I tried dcop konsole to see what comes up but that tells me know such application |
18:58.26 | annma | yuo need konsole running |
18:58.40 | annma | then use kdcop to browse dcop calls |
18:59.53 | xenoterracide | ah I've never heard of kdcop... nifty thanks annma |
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19:00.45 | annma | you're welcome |
19:03.10 | shifty | is there any html editor that can connect to a server using frontpage extensions? |
19:04.13 | litb | hmm, not that i know of |
19:04.21 | thiago_home | FrontPage |
19:04.35 | litb | really? |
19:04.36 | logixoul | hehe |
19:04.53 | litb | ms has renamed it iirc |
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19:05.17 | logixoul | Microsoft Expression Web yeah |
19:05.22 | shifty | i need one that runs in linux though |
19:05.28 | shifty | nvu doesnt |
19:05.42 | logixoul | nvu does |
19:06.04 | shifty | it doesnt use frontpage extensions |
19:06.16 | shifty | i cant get it to connect to the server that doesnt have ftp, just frontpage extensions |
19:06.34 | logixoul | too bad... |
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19:06.46 | xenoterracide | hm... is there anyway to control konsole through dcop that doesn't involve specifying a pid? |
19:07.01 | logixoul | no |
19:07.07 | logixoul | but there are ways of obtaining the pud |
19:07.08 | logixoul | pid* |
19:07.15 | shifty | logixoul: it asks for publishing server, do you know if theres a specific publishing server it uses fro frontpage extensions? |
19:07.29 | logixoul | no idea |
19:08.22 | killown|away | Skrot- when mouse indicator it's over a video file dolphin show me a image preview only in lateral bar .. will be possible show in lateral bar the wholy video with mplayer instead of only image? |
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19:08.59 | Skrot- | killown|away: Technically; sure, but I don't know if its in the works or not |
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19:25.51 | sayers | is there a tool to mount an .iso in KDE? |
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19:26.24 | wolsni | sayers: i think there's a context menu on kde-apps.org |
19:26.39 | wolsni | also, krusader can browse iso's like archive files |
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19:35.43 | litb | sayers: mount -oloop |
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19:38.43 | |Dylan| | aseigo: thank you for your help, my friend. as it turns out, i just filled up my hard drive last night backing up old distros to delete. i removed them and resized this partition w/ commercial software and im back in business. thx much for your help, and have a great day. :) |
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19:45.16 | jbesiee | i have a question about dolphin : is the directory tree view planned as in konqueror ? i can't see it in the current version |
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19:47.31 | adamt | which program starts the battery-monitor? |
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19:52.25 | wolsni | adamt: that depends on whether you're using kpowersave or klaptop |
19:52.38 | wolsni | if you're using kpowersave just run 'kpowersave' |
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19:52.58 | wolsni | if you're using klaptop you need to go to the KDE control center and configure klaptop there |
19:53.05 | adamt | wolsni: klaptop, i think |
19:53.18 | adamt | wolsni: can't do, i need to start it from a script. |
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19:53.57 | wolsni | then I think you need to look into using dcop to control the kde service manager |
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19:55.48 | adamt | wolsni: you're sure it's started from kded? |
19:55.50 | BCMM | is Beta 2 out? |
19:56.15 | wolsni | adamt: no |
19:56.31 | wolsni | BCMM: apparently, there's a review of it on ars technica |
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19:59.39 | BCMM | wolsni: thing is, kde.org doesn't mention it |
19:59.57 | BCMM | and Ars sounds like it checked out the sources from the repo |
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20:00.34 | BCMM | ooh the artwork is there now! |
20:00.44 | BCMM | beta 1 still looked like plastiac |
20:01.05 | wolsni | according to techbase.kde.org it was tagged on August 29 |
20:01.23 | jbesiee | do you have a link to the article ? |
20:01.36 | wolsni | jbesiee: it's linked on dot.kde.org |
20:01.42 | BCMM | http://arstechnica.com/journals/linux.ars/2007/09/04/testdriving-kde-4-beta-2-or-thereabouts |
20:01.51 | wolsni | or that :) |
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20:03.03 | pip | Anyone how where kchmviewer stores its index on linux ? |
20:03.10 | pip | I wanna delete it |
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20:05.26 | BCMM | pip: i don't know kchmviewer, but have you tried ~/.kde/share/apps/kchmviewer ? |
20:05.36 | Doofy_ | hi |
20:05.49 | Doofy_ | jemand deutsch |
20:05.49 | pip | it isn't in that path 1 |
20:07.22 | pip | BCMM, I read a chm file with it ,and it generated an index for that chm file, but ugly index that I want to delete or re-generate ,how to find the index cache file I suppose |
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20:11.15 | BCMM | does anyone know of a live CD with KDE 4? |
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20:11.23 | BCMM | i mean KDE 4 Beta 2? |
20:11.38 | pip | Sorry now |
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20:13.08 | jbesiee | i think it's still not officialy released |
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20:22.33 | orso | scusate se faccio e se faro domande stupide ma sono un neofita di linux o meglio sono alla prima installazione, |
20:23.06 | orso | ora sti cercando di capire come funzione il discorso dei pacchetti |
20:23.16 | orso | *funziona |
20:23.50 | orso | ma non riesco a capire molto, qualcuno mi potrebbe dare una mano? |
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20:36.37 | tsb | What is the "best" kde voip application? twinkle? |
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21:01.05 | GuySof2 | hello, when i drag a window in kde up to the top or bottom of the screen it hops to the next desktop. is there a way to disable this? |
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21:05.34 | logixoul | GuySof2: yep. kcontrol->desktop->window behavior iirc |
21:05.49 | logixoul | something about "active desktop borders" |
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21:06.32 | GuySof2 | iirc? |
21:07.08 | logixoul | "if I recall correctly" |
21:07.59 | GuySof2 | logixoul: i carnt see that.. |
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21:08.44 | logixoul | kcontrol->desktop->window behavior->advanced->Active Desktop Borders |
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21:09.00 | logixoul | I can't blame you, it's kind of like a space shuttle cockpit in there |
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21:09.57 | GuySof2 | logixoul: i know.. still, if you know the right button, it goes in to space :) |
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21:10.26 | logixoul | hehe, true |
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21:42.32 | x_link | Damn, can't find some cool icons. |
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21:56.05 | rickb|server | hello. I just installed kde and when I type startkde kde will come up with quite a few errors, it wont launch applicates, and all the text is just blocks. |
21:56.17 | rickb|server | did I maybe do something wrong? |
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21:57.38 | opensourcecat | rickb|server: wath distro do you use? |
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21:57.49 | rickb|server | FEdora Core 6. |
21:58.29 | rickb|server | Even in a gui terminal it wont launch software. |
21:58.41 | rickb|server | So I don't even think the whole problem is with kde. |
21:59.04 | opensourcecat | rickb|server: so why do you have to run startkde? Fedora should start the graphic login when kde is installed! |
21:59.13 | opensourcecat | how do you installed kde? |
21:59.27 | rickb|server | I installed it with yum. |
21:59.43 | rickb|server | I Connect to it via remote desktop. |
21:59.44 | rickb|server | vnc |
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22:01.00 | rickb|server | This is a dedicated server, I have to run it that we because its all ssh and I only need to run kde when I run vmware. |
22:02.07 | opensourcecat | ah ok, why do not switch to fedora7? what errors pop up when you launch it? |
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22:03.15 | rickb|server | It is terminating pids, it wont let me run programs from it. |
22:03.41 | timrs | sorry, wireless internet dropped for a minute: did you post something earlier? |
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22:03.48 | opensourcecat | but kde base (kicker, kdesktop) are running? |
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22:05.58 | rickb|server | yes |
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22:06.18 | rickb|server | All the text is being replaced by blocks. and it wont execute GUI programs |
22:06.33 | rickb|server | I type firefox and it sits there for a minute then nothing happens. |
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22:07.24 | opensourcecat | i suppose bad installation/configuration of fonts and localization. too hard for me, sorry! |
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22:09.13 | rickb|server | its ok |
22:09.57 | mohamed_ | hi, is there translator i can use it in kde ? |
22:10.06 | pinotree | ? |
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22:10.27 | opensourcecat | mohamed_: for single words or for full texts? |
22:10.41 | mohamed_ | single word |
22:10.57 | mohamed_ | i want to be in front of me all time :) |
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22:11.53 | opensourcecat | from which language? |
22:12.04 | mohamed_ | english-arabic |
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22:13.16 | opensourcecat | wow.. well give me a second.. |
22:13.20 | mohamed_ | opensourcecat, sometimes i find complex words for me in english, this is why i want something open all time |
22:15.39 | opensourcecat | mohamed_: i found that ktranslator can do the job, but is a matter to find a dictionary file for arabic.. |
22:15.46 | opensourcecat | http://ktranslator.sourceforge.net/dictionaries.html |
22:15.58 | opensourcecat | i can't see one... |
22:16.04 | mohamed_ | thx , opensourcecat i will search for arabic language |
22:16.26 | mohamed_ | there is one in dict |
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22:17.22 | opensourcecat | so i think is just a matter to install ktranslator and point it to the right dict file! |
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22:26.51 | mohamed_ | opensourcecat, i have another question i installed ktranslator and dict server, how can i adjust ktranslator to read from dictd server ? |
22:27.15 | mohamed_ | it ask for file language |
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22:27.59 | opensourcecat | probably you have to download the dict file and put it somewhere. no needs to use an online server |
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22:28.14 | mohamed_ | is not online is local |
22:28.41 | opensourcecat | refer to the ktranslator guide to know where to put and how to thell where the dict file is |
22:29.00 | opensourcecat | how to tell to ktranslator... |
22:29.14 | mohamed_ | ok i search where the server read from |
22:30.33 | mohamed_ | thx, opensourcecat it working now |
22:30.59 | opensourcecat | it's a pleasure to have happy kde users! |
22:31.45 | mohamed_ | i start like kde after using gnome last period |
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22:43.03 | Gokee2 | In kwrite if it does not detect the type of thing you are editing is there a way to tell it what it needed for a comment? |
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22:43.33 | Gokee2 | Right now I am editing config files and want it to stick # in front of 50 or so lines |
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22:46.47 | wolsni | Gokee2: no, but you can enable regex's and do a search and replace ^ with # to put a hash at the beginning of each line |
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22:54.06 | pime | Hi |
22:54.24 | pime | Anyone has any problem with KDE? Ask me! |
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22:59.44 | Sho_ | Bah, and I was just going to ask pime if he knew any cure for Kolf addiction |
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23:01.07 | failure | hi, my kde apps don't show tooltips in their buttons, i have activated the tooltips in control center -> behavior, any ideas? |
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23:46.42 | tsb | Any regex-applications for kde? several years ago I used something called the regex coach on windows |
23:47.46 | pinotree | kregexpeditor, shipped with kdeutils |
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23:51.13 | robert__ | hi all |
23:51.17 | robert__ | anyone here? |
23:51.39 | timrs | hi |
23:51.50 | robert__ | is there somebody available to help me with installing ati drivers? |
23:51.57 | Sho_ | robert__: in #ati there is |
23:52.00 | robert__ | i just can't get it done somehow |
23:52.05 | robert__ | o,tnx |
23:52.10 | Sho_ | robert__: A channel dedicated to it, basically ;) |
23:52.25 | robert__ | i'm joining it , tnx |
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23:53.45 | tsb | pinotree: marvelous :) |
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23:53.49 | timrs | ive never really tried to manually install drivers before, only xpad for my 360 controller |
23:54.56 | timrs | its kindof a foreign concept for people used to windows where u just click around to install drivers |
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