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| 00:09.23 | ryanakca | Is there a way to keep the sticky keys dialog from showing up each time I hold down shift while using inkscape... well... from showing up forever? |
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| 00:16.35 | Schuenemann | thiago_home, the file is kwinrc |
| 00:17.01 | Schuenemann | and the entry is ShowDesktopIsMinimizeAll=true under Windows |
| 00:19.06 | Chani | ryanakca: yes. |
| 00:19.31 | Chani | ryanakca: can't remembre how, but it'll probably be somewhere in the accessibility part of the control centre |
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| 00:26.40 | lupine_85 | Hi. Are development question on-topic here? |
| 00:27.29 | Bearcat | lupine_85: only if they are about using DIrect X on windows 95 |
| 00:27.38 | icwiener__ | lupine_85: Rather #kde-devel or #kde4-devel |
| 00:27.41 | Bearcat | <.< >.> |
| 00:27.51 | Jucato | Bearcat: lol :) |
| 00:27.52 | lupine_85 | :D |
| 00:28.39 | Chani | lol |
| 00:29.09 | lupine_85 | nah, it's a visual element inherited from KDialogBase. It's doing something time-intensive, so I want it to update (redraw) the GUI on a regular interval |
| 00:29.47 | ryanakca | Chani: thanks |
| 00:30.20 | lupine_85 | will ask on -devel |
| 00:32.24 | Chani | kde4 is more interesting :) |
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| 00:32.29 | lupine_85 | I thought it'd be kde-dev :D |
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| 00:32.41 | Chani | oh, I make that typo all te time |
| 00:33.24 | Jucato | if only you could Tab complete channel names... |
| 00:34.05 | Bearcat | Chani: is there a kde 4 room? I'm trying to compile kdebase4 to no avail |
| 00:34.37 | Chani | argh. somehow I missed a key there. |
| 00:34.49 | Chani | I really should not be awake. |
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| 00:34.55 | Jucato | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:40.36 | Jucato | wow! never knew double-clicking on an empty space in Konqi's tab area opens a new tab :/ |
| 00:41.21 | Chani | interesting |
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| 00:49.01 | Bearcat | Chani: i do not' assume that's a help channel though |
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| 00:53.22 | d347hm4n | hi there, i can make the taskbar transparent but i would also like to make the k-menu transparent |
| 00:53.28 | d347hm4n | how do i do this |
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| 01:04.06 | escuter | I set kde up so the top bar shows the active application's bar, and I want to put it back, but I can't find the option anywhere, can somebody give me a pointer? |
| 01:04.45 | Jucato | escuter: right-click on the desktop -> Configure Desktop -> Behavior |
| 01:05.54 | escuter | Jucato: damn, that was easy.. thanks |
| 01:06.21 | escuter | has anybody have a clue on how to type in hebrew/Yiddish? |
| 01:06.35 | escuter | I thought Skim would help, but it doesn't show up. |
| 01:06.54 | escuter | (I have installed Japanese, Hebrew and Yiddish language support. Japanese appears) |
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| 01:14.32 | DaSkreech | There are no plans to have a communication app in KDE4 .0? |
| 01:14.56 | Jucato | O.o |
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| 01:15.59 | Jucato | no plans vs. couldn't/didn't make it... |
| 01:16.16 | DaSkreech | Well that means there are no plans right |
| 01:16.54 | Jucato | you make it sound as if they intended to do it that way. how insensitive of them, right? |
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| 01:20.00 | DaSkreech | No I'm asking a question |
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| 01:20.52 | Jucato | according to the Dot, Kopete won't make the 4.0 deadline. so I guess that's that |
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| 01:22.15 | DawnLight | what is kded and why is it eating up my cpu? i killed kontact. that probebly has to do with it |
| 01:23.05 | Jucato | ah the patience of the young |
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| 01:32.37 | killown|away | hey, how do I to add service menu on dolphin? |
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| 01:35.32 | Jucato | same way you do in Konqueror, except in dolphin's directory ($KDEHOME/share/apps/dolphin/servicemenus or $KDEDIR/share/apps/dolphin/servicemenus) |
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| 01:36.56 | killown|away | Jucato I need only create script.desktop ? |
| 01:37.08 | Jucato | basically, yes |
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| 01:38.42 | killown|away | Jucato, thanks a lot |
| 01:38.50 | Jucato | http://techbase.kde.org/Development/Tutorials/Creating_Konqueror_Service_Menus |
| 01:39.29 | killown|away | thanks dude |
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| 01:46.09 | casper__ | I'm seeing strange KDE behavior. when I click on an item in the menu it opens 2 copies. this is a new install of SL 3.3b on vmware. everything else works fine. the mouse is set for double click. any ideas? seen it before? |
| 01:48.00 | troy | Jucato: http://troy-at-kde.livejournal.com/7269.html - my turn to elaborate a little on packaging, following up our discussion yesterday... |
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| 01:48.22 | Jucato | hehe :) |
| 01:48.35 | Jucato | oh btw troy, whatever happened to your other KDE 4 articles? Krita and Kate? |
| 01:49.01 | troy | Jucato: I've been sitting on the interview responses for Krita for an age, without actually writing them... you want to write it up for the dot? :P |
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| 01:49.17 | Jucato | hehe no thanks :P |
| 01:49.25 | Jucato | I'll leave the upstream work to you guys for now :) |
| 01:49.32 | troy | Jucato: hahaha |
| 01:50.44 | troy | Jucato: well, I would write the Krita one up on Ars, but I can't really do it as part of the old Road series, as the audience is quite different... I'd have to introduce a lot of history, and make sure that the people using windows/mac don't think that Krita is just some lame photoshop clone and such - it's a daunting task |
| 01:51.36 | Jucato | s/photoshop clone/photoshop clone & kimp/ |
| 01:52.04 | troy | Jucato: I think I'll wait until KOffice2 Beta 1 is announced, and use the material as part of that feature article :) |
| 01:52.23 | Jucato | hm... and when would that be? hehehe |
| 01:53.02 | troy | they claim to be about three months behind KDE, so this month or next month should probably produce the first beta... |
| 01:53.49 | Jucato | hm... exciting :) |
| 01:53.57 | troy | Jucato: although Koffice is weird these days - it seems to be slipping away from being the prototypical office suite - I mean, what office suite includes a kickass image program in the default applications? |
| 01:54.25 | Jucato | that's always a FAQ isn't it? :) |
| 01:54.41 | Jucato | I got into a heated argument about that twice... |
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| 01:55.09 | troy | Jucato: I wouldn't be surprised if Koffice ends up breaking into multiple packages at some point - a kofficelibs package (like kdepimlibs) that ships with KDE, and the applications separately... |
| 01:55.26 | Jucato | I thought that was the plan already? |
| 01:55.40 | Jucato | kolibs I think or something |
| 01:55.52 | troy | Jucato: it hasn't been split that way in SVN - only some distros have been doing that themselves (like kubuntu :P) |
| 01:56.11 | Jucato | no, I mean the kofficelibs thin |
| 01:56.13 | Jucato | thing |
| 01:56.44 | killown|away | hey has any kde app list all process and give me the option of killall selected process? |
| 01:56.56 | Jucato | killown|away: Ctrl+Esc |
| 01:57.02 | Jucato | (ksysguard) |
| 01:57.09 | killown|away | Jucato, thanks a lot |
| 01:57.38 | Jucato | troy: iirc there has been some discussion, pre-aKademy I think, about having a separate koffice library which other apps can use, like for displaying ODF files |
| 01:59.43 | killown|away | Jucato, ty |
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| 02:01.15 | killown|away | Jucato, what the command to show processtable .. ksysguard is differ |
| 02:01.24 | Jucato | killown|away: Ctrl+Esc |
| 02:01.36 | killown|away | Jucato command line |
| 02:01.42 | Jucato | ksysguard is the full app. the process table is part of ksysguard |
| 02:01.42 | killown|away | to run it |
| 02:01.57 | killown|away | Jucato then how do I to run only part of ksysguard? |
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| 02:03.07 | Jucato | ksysguard --showprocesses |
| 02:04.45 | killown|away | Jucato thanks dude |
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| 02:08.49 | troy | Jucato: I think okular is using koffice for odf, but I could be mistaken... |
| 02:10.03 | troy | Jucato: I'm hungry - contemplating ordering pizza at 9PM... :P |
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| 02:10.10 | Jucato | yum!!!! |
| 02:10.21 | Jucato | grrr... you made me crave for pizza at 10am! |
| 02:11.29 | Jucato | "When does an application count as a KDE application?" when it uses kde libraries? duh? |
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| 02:20.24 | Dieguu-Argentina | Hi, can anybody help me ? |
| 02:20.38 | Dieguu-Argentina | I would like to know where do i have to start to be a KDE Developer |
| 02:20.44 | Dieguu-Argentina | ( ?) ... anybody ? |
| 02:23.00 | DaSkreech | When KDE 4.0 ships (as of right now) There are no communication apps. No IM no iRC Well I guess e-mail counts |
| 02:23.12 | DaSkreech | Dieguu-Argentina: techbase and #kde-devel |
| 02:23.27 | DaSkreech | Jucato: Sorry My mom commandered the computer |
| 02:23.37 | troy | Dieguu-Argentina: techbase.kde.org is a good place to start |
| 02:23.57 | Jucato | DaSkreech: although you'll still be able to use Kopete and Konvi |
| 02:24.07 | DaSkreech | just KDE3 |
| 02:24.20 | Jucato | better than nothing right? |
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| 02:24.33 | troy | DaSkreech: konvi hasn't started porting yet, but kopete definitely has - you'll likely be able to use a beta of konvi or similar |
| 02:24.37 | troy | errr, beta of kopete |
| 02:24.48 | troy | Sho_: how long do you think porting konvi would take, once started? |
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| 02:25.37 | Jucato | keywords "once started"? :) |
| 02:25.50 | DaSkreech | Jucato: Yeah I know but I guess I'm not so worried about them (I'm lying I am worried) as for bug testing etc in decibel |
| 02:26.11 | DaSkreech | troy: ksirc? isn't that the default KDE IRC Klient? |
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| 02:26.37 | Jucato | not anymore |
| 02:26.47 | icwiener | But Konversation isn't either. |
| 02:26.53 | icwiener | It's Koete now. |
| 02:26.58 | DaSkreech | troy: and I've be poking Sho_ on Konvi stuff so far it seems mostly like a Qt4 port then lurking for bit |
| 02:27.00 | icwiener | (for 4.1?) ;) |
| 02:27.12 | Jucato | although you could say konvi is the de facto irc client, but prefers to be in extragear |
| 02:27.19 | DaSkreech | Yeah it(?) wants to debut in 4.1 |
| 02:27.23 | Jucato | like k3b and digikam... |
| 02:27.31 | icwiener | Jucato: Yupp. Most dostros use to ship it. |
| 02:27.37 | icwiener | *distros |
| 02:27.38 | DaSkreech | Yes but there are other KDE IRC clients |
| 02:27.49 | DaSkreech | I was surprised not one of them stood up |
| 02:27.50 | icwiener | Yes, like irssi in Yakuake. ;) |
| 02:27.58 | Jucato | why do you think ksirc was moved out of kdenetwork in the first place? :) |
| 02:28.15 | DaSkreech | icwiener: that's not a KD ooh in Yakuake ok yeah that's acceptable |
| 02:28.27 | icwiener | hehe :) |
| 02:28.35 | Jucato | there may be other kde irc clients. but which ones are actively maintained? |
| 02:29.13 | DaSkreech | IN KDE4? |
| 02:29.31 | Jucato | even in KDE 3 |
| 02:29.35 | DaSkreech | Umm thanks Aji-Dahaka |
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| 02:31.19 | Jucato | DaSkreech: can you name other kde irc apps other than konvi and ksirc? I'm not familiar with others |
| 02:31.32 | troy | kopete :P |
| 02:31.32 | icwiener | KVirc |
| 02:31.41 | DaSkreech | Seeeeee? |
| 02:31.50 | troy | kvirc became konversation, no? or am I mixing things up |
| 02:32.08 | icwiener | Oh, really? |
| 02:32.10 | Jucato | er.. |
| 02:32.14 | Jucato | kvirc isn't KDE |
| 02:32.25 | troy | http://www.kvirc.net/ -- it's Qt |
| 02:32.42 | icwiener | Ah, ok. Close, though. |
| 02:32.51 | Jucato | heh |
| 02:33.19 | troy | slackware and debian packages only :P |
| 02:33.51 | Jucato | cross platform :) |
| 02:33.58 | troy | it's not KDE, but if you look closely at their website banner, you'll see a homage to the KDE gear :) |
| 02:33.58 | icwiener | ehe |
| 02:34.22 | icwiener | troy: Good catch! |
| 02:34.29 | Jucato | false promotion? hehehe |
| 02:34.40 | Jucato | actually even Debian describes it a bit wrongly |
| 02:34.52 | troy | I believe, in the very beginning, it was intended to be a KDE program - they shortly afterwards decided to go Qt only but not before the KDE cog was in their app icon :) |
| 02:34.58 | Jucato | Description: KDE based next generation IRC client with module support |
| 02:37.03 | troy | ciao folks |
| 02:37.14 | Jucato | pizza!!!! |
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| 02:37.34 | asarch | Hi everyone, how is it getting along? |
| 02:37.37 | asarch | How's the weather? |
| 02:37.38 | icwiener | Stop it, I'm hungry and the stores open in three hours! |
| 02:37.50 | icwiener | Dark. ;) |
| 02:37.55 | asarch | Is there any way to check the Konqueror's activities log? |
| 02:38.17 | troy | icwiener: I live downtown, the stores are always open :) |
| 02:38.37 | Jucato | stores are open now... but have no $$$ :( |
| 02:38.38 | icwiener | troy: Lucky. :) |
| 02:38.44 | Jucato | hot and humid... |
| 02:38.51 | troy | I've got a 24 hour doughnut shop one block from here which is always good for a late night hacking snack :) |
| 02:39.05 | icwiener | troy: Enjoy your late lunch, then. :) |
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| 02:46.57 | DaSkreech | troy: get them to Akademy |
| 02:48.01 | icwiener | Argh, geeks! There is a really nice woman moving in with us and all about me and my room mate can fight about is if she gets Debian (me) or Gentoo (him) installed on her box. ;) |
| 02:49.32 | Jucato | O.o |
| 02:49.54 | DaSkreech | Well if she's nice then Gentoo |
| 02:49.55 | Jucato | great bash.org material :) |
| 02:49.57 | DaSkreech | nice and slow :) |
| 02:50.08 | Jucato | what if she ends up with Kubuntu? hehehe |
| 02:50.13 | DaSkreech | Debian is all prepackaged and tart |
| 02:50.20 | DaSkreech | or |
| 02:50.21 | DaSkreech | or |
| 02:50.26 | DaSkreech | Ubuntu :-| |
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| 02:50.50 | Jucato | er... we're in KDE, of course she'll use Kubuntu :P |
| 02:51.31 | Chani | hmmm |
| 02:51.41 | DaSkreech | Hi Chani !! |
| 02:51.53 | Chani | havng put gentoo on my mum's computer, I wouldn't reccommend it, for the sake of maintenance |
| 02:51.58 | DaSkreech | right you are chani |
| 02:52.02 | icwiener | Jucato: Then I cancel her rental. ;) |
| 02:52.04 | DaSkreech | Never seen you here before :) |
| 02:52.10 | Chani | as much as I'd love to be using it right now |
| 02:52.10 | Jucato | lol |
| 02:52.24 | DaSkreech | icwiener: no likely the Buntu? |
| 02:52.34 | DaSkreech | Chani: I thought that gentoo had rolling updates |
| 02:53.16 | Chani | DaSkreech: yeah, but if you ignore them for 6 months, it becomes fairly annoying to get up to date |
| 02:53.22 | Chani | there's always some conflict ore other |
| 02:53.34 | DaSkreech | So really a geek distro then? |
| 02:53.47 | Chani | once I moved out of my mum's house her comp got old and crufty |
| 02:53.48 | DaSkreech | and high net uptime geek as well |
| 02:54.29 | Chani | this was made worse by her being terrified of change, so I was always reluctant to upgrade any gui program anyways |
| 02:54.44 | DaSkreech | Chani: Can I ask a question. Don't take it as being rude |
| 02:56.46 | Chani | these days, when I do an install for someone else, I use a distro aimed at end-users. one that makes things a bit easier for those who really don't want to learn |
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| 02:57.50 | DaSkreech | PCLinuxOS? |
| 02:58.29 | Chani | haven't tried that one yet |
| 02:58.38 | DaSkreech | hm |
| 02:58.40 | DaSkreech | ok |
| 02:58.50 | DaSkreech | that's the one I keep hearing as the "newb" distro |
| 02:58.55 | Chani | I used kubuntu for a couple of compuers, but I'd like to find something else now |
| 02:59.59 | DaSkreech | Slackware! :-) |
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| 03:00.59 | Chani | I just noticed something amusing. the bit of paper telling me what to do for the start of semester says "please go through the above procedures in order", but #5 is on sept.8 and #6 is on sept. 7 |
| 03:01.50 | Jucato | heh |
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| 03:04.41 | DaSkreech | Oh wait you are working on kopete :) |
| 03:04.49 | Chani | huh? |
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| 03:05.20 | DaSkreech | alice or soemthing |
| 03:05.24 | Chani | hehe |
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| 03:05.30 | Chani | I *was* working on kopete |
| 03:05.45 | DaSkreech | did you get the file transfer done? |
| 03:05.50 | Chani | and it kinda has other prioeities now, I think :) |
| 03:05.55 | Chani | yeah |
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| 03:06.20 | DaSkreech | Sweet :) |
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| 03:06.23 | Chani | last I heard, kopete didn't really have the manpower for generally making stuff work |
| 03:06.27 | DaSkreech | now I can get pics |
| 03:06.45 | DaSkreech | Yeah I know it's the most impressive app for having near noone working on it |
| 03:06.54 | Chani | someone else finished up the last little bits of filetransfer features I hadn't done |
| 03:06.56 | DaSkreech | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:07.12 | Chani | I think kmail's fairly high up there too :) |
| 03:07.31 | bbeck_ | Chani: Isn't the telepathy project supposed to ease the Kopete developers task? |
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| 03:08.02 | Chani | bbeck_: the way I heard it made it sound more like telepathy would benefit from kopete code, or something |
| 03:08.15 | Chani | in any case, someone has to change kopete to use all these pillars of kde4 |
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| 03:08.33 | Chani | I haven't beenb following the mailing list, so I dunno how that's going |
| 03:08.34 | DaSkreech_ | Not really |
| 03:08.48 | lunitik | Chani: Kopete is a client, kopete will have a telepathy plugin. |
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| 03:08.52 | DaSkreech_ | it helps the connection |
| 03:08.58 | DaSkreech_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:09.20 | Chani | I forget which one telepathy is |
| 03:09.33 | DaSkreech_ | it's the basis of Decibel |
| 03:10.25 | lunitik | DaSkreech_: You sure? I thought Decibel was being based off of a rival of Telepathy... |
| 03:10.33 | DaSkreech_ | Tapioca? |
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| 03:11.40 | lunitik | DaSkreech_: I think so? I forget... |
| 03:11.56 | lunitik | DaSkreech_: I know Tapioca is doing more GTK frontends... |
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| 03:12.17 | DaSkreech_ | telepathy is a spec. Tapioca is a Implementation of a telepathy API decibel is built on top of Tapioca |
| 03:12.38 | DaSkreech_ | http://dot.kde.org/1171659655/ |
| 03:12.43 | lunitik | DaSkreech_: But actually, decibel.kde.org seems to describe telepathy for almost all documentation, so I guess they settled on that... |
| 03:13.03 | Chani | I miss the nice obvious k-names. |
| 03:13.41 | lunitik | Chani: People were mocking them, so despite them defining KDE - giving it an image... they're dropping them :/ |
| 03:13.43 | DaSkreech_ | lunitik: the two groups started working together btw so any splits you may recall have healed |
| 03:13.59 | DaSkreech_ | Chani: decibel is the only K name in there |
| 03:14.03 | lunitik | DaSkreech_: Ahh, that's good :) |
| 03:14.15 | DaSkreech_ | Very :) open source so rocks |
| 03:15.09 | DaSkreech_ | It is? |
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| 03:15.34 | DaSkreech_ | Evolution |
| 03:15.38 | DaSkreech_ | pidgin |
| 03:15.43 | DaSkreech_ | Epihany |
| 03:15.48 | icwiener | pidGin! |
| 03:15.50 | icwiener | ; |
| 03:15.51 | Chani | what confuses me the most is gwenview |
| 03:15.52 | DaSkreech_ | Ha ha :) |
| 03:15.57 | lunitik | DaSkreech_: Yes, other than some stuff from Ximian/Easel (I believe) which starts with an E... |
| 03:15.59 | DaSkreech_ | And Kino? |
| 03:16.03 | Chani | oh yeah, they renamed gaim |
| 03:16.08 | lunitik | icwiener: Pidgin isn't part of Gnome. |
| 03:16.36 | bbeck_ | I just started using Pidgin for the Bonjour support, I feel kind of dirty. |
| 03:16.37 | Chani | isn't there a gphoto? |
| 03:16.37 | icwiener | Right... |
| 03:16.38 | Chani | gimp? |
| 03:16.48 | DaSkreech_ | Gimp is older than Gnome |
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| 03:17.00 | DaSkreech_ | I'm not sure but it might be older than KDE |
| 03:17.29 | lunitik | DaSkreech_: Yes... that was Gnu Image Manipulation Project .... they wrote GTK, so they'd have to have come first :) |
| 03:17.38 | DaSkreech_ | I know |
| 03:17.58 | DaSkreech_ | Someone was saying that GTK has outlived it's usefulness |
| 03:18.09 | DaSkreech_ | Which of course is false since GIMP is still here :) |
| 03:18.20 | lunitik | DaSkreech_: They're starting to expand it a lot... but I think GTK will always be around. |
| 03:18.27 | icwiener | DaSkreech_: Gimp Nov'95; KDE Oct'96 |
| 03:19.11 | DaSkreech_ | icwiener: Yeah I figured since KDE quickly spawned the dissent which arose GNOME who chose GTK for it's maturity |
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| 03:19.21 | DaSkreech_ | So it's likely that it was older than KDE |
| 03:19.30 | icwiener | Yupp |
| 03:19.31 | DaSkreech_ | lunitik: Solaris? |
| 03:19.44 | Chani | krita is nice |
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| 03:19.50 | Chani | one problem: it's not a photo app |
| 03:20.04 | lunitik | DaSkreech_: Gnome was started because of the drama around Qt... it states it in the opening e-mail from Miguel. |
| 03:20.06 | Chani | we need a photo app that canb do proper 16-bit and so on like krita |
| 03:20.16 | lunitik | Miguel was actually part of the KDE project for a time! |
| 03:20.34 | DaSkreech_ | lunitik: I know.. I've gotten very familiar with the history recently |
| 03:20.41 | lunitik | DaSkreech_: CDE uses motif... solaris is a kernel ;) |
| 03:20.53 | DaSkreech_ | lunitik: yeah but they ship CDE |
| 03:20.55 | Chani | eeew. motif. *shudders* |
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| 03:21.05 | Chani | the first time I saw motif was in a class about java |
| 03:21.08 | DaSkreech_ | I've heard users defending it as "nice" |
| 03:21.13 | lunitik | DaSkreech_: Only because they haven't got a GTK installer :/ |
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| 03:21.24 | Chani | I can't believe that they chose that ugliness as their "linux" appearance |
| 03:21.40 | DaSkreech_ | open Solaris open java open ATI Drivers :) |
| 03:21.44 | lunitik | DaSkreech_: Those users should be committed to a mental institute. |
| 03:21.54 | DaSkreech_ | lunitik: harsh |
| 03:21.59 | Chani | yay amd :) |
| 03:22.08 | DaSkreech_ | Maybe an opterimist first? |
| 03:22.27 | lunitik | DaSkreech_: It's harsh to committ people because they have an invisible friend still at 35yo... it's still necessary! |
| 03:23.02 | DaSkreech_ | Anyway |
| 03:23.16 | DaSkreech_ | I want an AI away plugin for Kopete :) |
| 03:23.51 | wolsni | DaSkreech_: what would that do? |
| 03:24.30 | DaSkreech_ | connect to ALICE or any of those online "I'm really a human" bots |
| 03:24.51 | DaSkreech_ | when someone talks to you it inserts a sorry "username" isn't here |
| 03:25.00 | DaSkreech_ | then switches on the bot and makes them start talking |
| 03:25.08 | DaSkreech_ | It would be hilarious |
| 03:25.19 | wolsni | ah |
| 03:25.42 | killown|away | has any frontend pastebin for kde? may any script kommander ... |
| 03:26.09 | DaSkreech_ | I still keep trying to figure out how to paste on the net from the command line :( |
| 03:27.04 | Jucato | DaSkreech_: gpm |
| 03:27.25 | DaSkreech_ | I think I tried that. |
| 03:27.31 | DaSkreech_ | I'll look again though |
| 03:27.39 | killown|away | Jucato does exist a frontend for pastebin? |
| 03:27.47 | Jucato | yeah. Konqueror :P |
| 03:28.11 | ganymede | how can i change the color of the text-input field in kopete? |
| 03:28.34 | DaSkreech_ | Recompile? |
| 03:29.02 | wolsni | it should follow the appropriate color from your color scheme ganymede |
| 03:31.07 | ganymede | wolsni: what item should i set the color for to make it white? |
| 03:31.40 | wolsni | i'm not sure |
| 03:32.01 | ganymede | wolsni: all other text entries show up correctly as white-on-black |
| 03:32.12 | wolsni | looks like "standard" background |
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| 03:34.53 | ganymede | wolsni: so it works for you? changing the color of kopete's text entry? |
| 03:35.22 | wolsni | actually no, i just checked |
| 03:35.38 | ganymede | wolsni: oh, apparently, stripping away custom foreground, background, and rich text fixes it, i think |
| 03:35.51 | wolsni | well there you go then :) |
| 03:36.06 | ganymede | but then i run into the problem that i can't see the colors i'm typing in =( |
| 03:36.21 | ganymede | or that the person is typing to me in |
| 03:37.49 | ganymede | wolsni: ah wait, never mind, the problem came bac |
| 03:37.53 | ganymede | back* |
| 03:38.02 | ganymede | i don't know how to resolve it and then to keep it resolved |
| 03:38.17 | wolsni | me neither |
| 03:38.27 | wolsni | maybe talk to DaSkreech_ about his suggestion :P |
| 03:39.20 | Chani | weird. |
| 03:39.50 | Chani | I always have colours stripped away. far too many friends think pink is a fun colour to write in :P |
| 03:40.05 | wolsni | Chani++ |
| 03:40.06 | Chani | or other such painful or invisible colours |
| 03:40.15 | ganymede | i had a white-on-black text input for a second |
| 03:40.21 | ganymede | but it's once again broken |
| 03:40.42 | ganymede | ah, if only i could do a fullscreen color invert |
| 03:40.53 | ganymede | then, this wouldn't be such a problem |
| 03:41.04 | ganymede | using a high contrast white-on-black theme, that it |
| 03:41.47 | ganymede | that is* |
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| 04:00.33 | DaSkreech | troy: Not a real KDE app? |
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| 04:13.18 | DaSkreech | Anyone on know somethign abot the workings of Plasma |
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| 04:23.41 | wesbluemarine | go on oxygen channel |
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| 04:28.42 | bbeck_ | DaSkreech: try the plasma channel, or plasma.kde.org |
| 04:29.18 | DaSkreech | that's a dev chan I'm looking for something more theoritical ... conversational really |
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| 04:30.39 | DaSkreech | I'm still trying to figureo ut of conduit is (in theory) possible in plasma |
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| 04:33.46 | grendal_prime | ok i need to autolaunch vlc and fire up a dvd with the storage media detection device |
| 04:34.13 | grendal_prime | this if for my mother...it has to be as simple as putting the disk in and pointing and clicking on the menu. |
| 04:37.07 | DaSkreech | out if |
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| 04:45.46 | DaSkreech | Rebooting into linix |
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| 04:48.05 | wonderjones | can anyone help me on the installation of these compiz screenlets? |
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| 04:48.28 | PuppiesOnAcid | What is the standard KDE IRC client? |
| 04:49.12 | onesandzeros | kirc? |
| 04:49.21 | PuppiesOnAcid | Ok, is there a KDE IRC network? |
| 04:49.24 | icwiener | PuppiesOnAcid: KSirc in KDE 3, Kopete in KDE 4(.1)... But Konversation is very nice. |
| 04:49.37 | onesandzeros | yeah, I like konversation |
| 04:49.39 | icwiener | PuppiesOnAcid: irc.kde.org... it's freenode.org though. |
| 04:49.45 | onesandzeros | icwiener: kopete is going to handle irc? |
| 04:49.56 | icwiener | onesandzeros: officially. ;) |
| 04:49.59 | onesandzeros | wow |
| 04:50.05 | PuppiesOnAcid | Wow. |
| 04:50.08 | PuppiesOnAcid | I want to become part of the KDE community. |
| 04:50.10 | icwiener | onesandzeros: It can, afaik, but for me it's kinda suboptimal. |
| 04:50.11 | onesandzeros | I thought it was going to be Konversation |
| 04:50.12 | PuppiesOnAcid | Where should I start? |
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| 04:50.36 | icwiener | PuppiesOnAcid: Depends on what you are good at. |
| 04:50.51 | PuppiesOnAcid | I want to get good at using KDE. |
| 04:50.55 | PuppiesOnAcid | And maybe programming for it! |
| 04:51.00 | icwiener | onesandzeros: The konversation devs prefered to stay in extragear module. |
| 04:51.06 | PuppiesOnAcid | Who is this emo kid in this picture? |
| 04:51.23 | PuppiesOnAcid | http://static.kdenews.org/danimo/akademy07/group-photo.html |
| 04:51.27 | PuppiesOnAcid | "Jackster" |
| 04:51.36 | PuppiesOnAcid | "Jack Donoghy" |
| 04:51.41 | PuppiesOnAcid | Donaghy* |
| 04:51.48 | onesandzeros | icwiener: ah. Well, I'll probably continue to use it. I can't really see using Kopete for irc... good for jabber and IM, though, of course |
| 04:52.40 | icwiener | onesandzeros: Yeah, same here. IRC and IM are different use cases for me. |
| 04:52.58 | icwiener | PuppiesOnAcid: Hmm? What's an emo kid? |
| 04:53.56 | PuppiesOnAcid | icwiener, dark hair, very front row |
| 04:54.00 | PuppiesOnAcid | kinda shaggy, glasses |
| 04:54.06 | PuppiesOnAcid | and chuck taylor shoes |
| 04:54.54 | icwiener | PuppiesOnAcid: http://www.kde.org/jobs/ btw. :) |
| 04:56.08 | icwiener | PuppiesOnAcid: You can basically help KDE by reporting bugs, fixing bugs, commenting on bugreports, writing documentation for apps, translating kde to your language (there are teams for many languages), ... |
| 04:56.26 | PuppiesOnAcid | What needs to be documented? |
| 04:57.20 | PuppiesOnAcid | i'm good at writing documentation. |
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| 04:57.50 | PuppiesOnAcid | Well first of all |
| 04:57.57 | PuppiesOnAcid | I need to know what distribution I should run! |
| 04:58.02 | icwiener | PuppiesOnAcid: All the new KDE 4 apps. ;) Ask on kde-doc-english@kde.org or #kde-docs for details, but it's all going on a bit slowly, so do not expect answers within hours. :) |
| 04:58.25 | swarna | icwiener, In how many languages kde has been translated till now |
| 04:58.27 | PuppiesOnAcid | What's new in KDE for? |
| 04:58.31 | icwiener | PuppiesOnAcid: It's your choice. :) Fore some tasks it's good to compile KDE from sources though. |
| 04:58.33 | PuppiesOnAcid | KDE 4 |
| 04:58.49 | icwiener | swarna: 65, iirc. |
| 04:59.12 | icwiener | PuppiesOnAcid: Read dot.kde.org for details. It's just too much. :) |
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| 04:59.35 | icwiener | PuppiesOnAcid: Most stuff is under the hood but there are also some new apps. |
| 04:59.39 | swarna | icwiener, from where could i get the list of languages that kde has been translated |
| 04:59.49 | PuppiesOnAcid | "getting involved with the KDE project while high" <--- something I will regret tomorrow |
| 05:00.18 | icwiener | swarna: http://l10n.kde.org/teams-list.php is a list of (more or less) active teams. |
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| 05:00.53 | PuppiesOnAcid | When are GNOME and KDE going to merge? |
| 05:01.05 | grendal_prime | ok i need to autolaunch vlc and fire up a dvd with the storage media detection device |
| 05:01.21 | grendal_prime | this if for my mother...it has to be as simple as putting the disk in and pointing and clicking on the menu. |
| 05:01.28 | icwiener | PuppiesOnAcid: When SCO stopps suing Linux. ;) |
| 05:01.33 | grendal_prime | sorry this is for my mother |
| 05:01.40 | PuppiesOnAcid | icwiener, What dou mean? |
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| 05:02.15 | grendal_prime | dont use the word sco...i mean its kinda like saying voldermort out loud aint it? |
| 05:02.28 | icwiener | PuppiesOnAcid: Sorry, they will not merge completely. They just start sharing some under-the-hood technology but their philosophies are too different for a common future. |
| 05:02.45 | icwiener | What's voldermort? |
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| 05:02.57 | PuppiesOnAcid | How does the philosophy of KDE differ from the philosophy of GNOME? |
| 05:02.57 | Jucato | harry potter's nemesis |
| 05:03.04 | grendal_prime | harry potter...villian...ha you dont get out much do ya? |
| 05:03.23 | Jucato | not everyone in the world knows about harry potter :) |
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| 05:03.33 | grendal_prime | thats to bad.. |
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| 05:03.54 | grendal_prime | could be worse though...we could be fitting a war for oil or some shit like that |
| 05:04.06 | icwiener | PuppiesOnAcid: KDE gives the user many things to configure, GNOME does not want to confude the user (keep it simple) and thus doesn't offer so many options. |
| 05:04.17 | grendal_prime | hey listen this is fun and all..but i really need to figure this out |
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| 05:04.29 | PuppiesOnAcid | Dude, some compromise could be made. |
| 05:04.34 | Jucato | not to mention KDE and GNOME use very different toolkits |
| 05:04.35 | PuppiesOnAcid | Dude, KDE is wrong and GNOME is rght. |
| 05:04.42 | icwiener | Anyway, it's just two Software project's living next to each other. I do not see any reason for them to merge. |
| 05:04.47 | PuppiesOnAcid | KDE = for nerds |
| 05:04.52 | Jucato | Dude, the point is, it's not going to happen, not any time soon, not in the near future |
| 05:04.57 | icwiener | Well... |
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| 05:05.07 | Jucato | Dude, you're in #kde |
| 05:05.16 | ubuntu_ | Dude! |
| 05:05.23 | icwiener | Yah, KDE is wrong. and with it thousands of user. ;) |
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| 05:05.40 | ubuntu_ | well there are statisically speaking more Gnome users |
| 05:05.45 | sabayonuser | alo |
| 05:05.47 | sabayonuser | hello |
| 05:05.51 | PuppiesOnAcid | Do most KDE users use FIREFOX? |
| 05:05.55 | sabayonuser | is someone here |
| 05:06.02 | grendal_prime | ok i need to autolaunch vlc and fire up a dvd with the storage media detection device the problem is when i do this the way i think it should be done...ie wxvlc ://dvd it reports that /media/cdrom0 is a folder and kde was expecting a file? |
| 05:06.06 | icwiener | Well, there are more Merzedes drivers than BMW drivers, so? |
| 05:06.10 | icwiener | *Mercedes |
| 05:06.14 | sabayonuser | hello |
| 05:06.16 | Jucato | sabayonuser: just going to give you a heads up, your questions might be more answered in #sabayon |
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| 05:06.43 | icwiener | PuppiesOnAcid: Who cares, I do, my rommate (also on KDE) uses Konqueror. |
| 05:07.28 | Jucato | and fwiw, Firefox isn't even a GNOME app |
| 05:07.28 | grendal_prime | konqueror fks up some things...yahoo mail does not work right on it |
| 05:07.28 | icwiener | It's a Windows app. |
| 05:07.29 | Jucato | well.. :) |
| 05:07.38 | icwiener | Mozilla said that when opening the independend development... |
| 05:07.51 | ubuntu_ | firefox is a windows app |
| 05:07.57 | grendal_prime | i like mozilla the big guy the entire suite..it works every time |
| 05:08.01 | PuppiesOnAcid | icwiener, do you go to college? |
| 05:08.05 | ubuntu_ | I don't know why people deny that |
| 05:08.25 | ubuntu_ | grendal_prime: Umm that's dead. Been dead for a while |
| 05:08.30 | icwiener | PuppiesOnAcid: Kinda. It's named differently, but it's similar. |
| 05:08.35 | grendal_prime | still works on the debian systems |
| 05:08.36 | Jucato | ubuntu_: there's Seamonkey |
| 05:08.46 | grendal_prime | iceape |
| 05:09.00 | ubuntu_ | grendal_prime: are you serious? |
| 05:09.03 | Jucato | iceape = Debian Seamonkey |
| 05:09.03 | grendal_prime | yep |
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| 05:09.08 | ubuntu_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:09.12 | ubuntu_ | what the heck for? |
| 05:09.18 | Jucato | iceweasel, icebird, iceape |
| 05:09.19 | icwiener | Legal issues. |
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| 05:09.32 | Jucato | icedove I mean |
| 05:09.33 | Jucato | lol |
| 05:09.41 | ubuntu_ | seamonkey is NOT a mozilla app |
| 05:09.41 | icwiener | hehe |
| 05:09.41 | grendal_prime | dont know...iceape is the mozilla suite. ice weasel is the firefox |
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| 05:09.46 | PuppiesOnAcid | what the fuck............. |
| 05:09.53 | PuppiesOnAcid | Debain cannot call firefox "firefox" ? |
| 05:10.09 | ubuntu_ | PuppiesOnAcid: they can they decided to make life easier and not |
| 05:10.13 | icwiener | PuppiesOnAcid: No, Mozilla forbids it due to trademark issues. |
| 05:10.28 | PuppiesOnAcid | Well what the hell? |
| 05:10.28 | Jucato | ubuntu_: http://www.mozilla.org/projects/seamonkey/ |
| 05:10.28 | ubuntu_ | icwiener: technically they did it on quality issues |
| 05:10.29 | grendal_prime | all i know is iceape (mozilla heavy) will run some sites..like turbotaxonline being one and the firefox varriants wont |
| 05:10.34 | PuppiesOnAcid | Because it's in the package manager? |
| 05:10.37 | PuppiesOnAcid | Is that the reason? |
| 05:10.54 | icwiener | ubuntu_: Well. Debian did it for quality issues, mozilla for legal issues. :) |
| 05:10.55 | Jucato | "The SeaMonkey project is a community effort to deliver production-quality releases of code derived from the application formerly known as "Mozilla Application Suite". " |
| 05:10.59 | ubuntu_ | Jucato: Yes but it's not a mozilla app. It's a community thing. If it dies ir thrives has nothing to do with Mozilla |
| 05:11.53 | ubuntu_ | Sort of like Songbird. very much built on Mozilla tech works closely with them. But legally mozilla couldn't care |
| 05:11.54 | grendal_prime | who...really ....cares...dude...i need to autolaunch vlc via the media detection app...can anyone help me with that.. |
| 05:11.58 | icwiener | PuppiesOnAcid: No, Debian changes it too much (for security reasons) and Mozilla doesn't want a thing called Firefox that differs too much from the original one. |
| 05:12.12 | PuppiesOnAcid | That's totally understandable. |
| 05:12.20 | grendal_prime | my mother will ground us all if we dont work this out...and im almost 40 years old..i dont have time to get grounded. |
| 05:12.26 | Jucato | ubuntu_: but unlike Songbird, Seamonkey is very much part of mozilla.org. but anyway... it isn't kde. period :) |
| 05:12.32 | ubuntu_ | grendal_prime: Ha ha what Distro? |
| 05:12.45 | grendal_prime | debian etch |
| 05:12.48 | ubuntu_ | Much like Kvirc? |
| 05:13.18 | Jucato | yeah kvirc isn't a kde app either. but it's closer to KDE than Seamonkey/Songbird/Firefox is :P |
| 05:13.33 | icwiener | Jucato: Tiring, eh? |
| 05:13.36 | icwiener | :D |
| 05:13.39 | Jucato | icwiener: very much |
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| 05:13.57 | icwiener | There should be a #kde faq :) |
| 05:14.08 | ubuntu_ | #kde-faq ? |
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| 05:14.25 | Jucato | among other K apps that aren't KDE apps would be Kino and K3D/K-3D |
| 05:15.05 | ubuntu_ | grendal_prime: Just checking if you had asked in #debian |
| 05:15.06 | icwiener | ubuntu_: Yes, a collection of questions (and answers) that come up in #kde frequently. |
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| 05:15.30 | grendal_prime | ya tried that ubuntu_ |
| 05:15.33 | Jucato | grendal_prime: I am not sure if this is the solution, but in KControl -> Peripherals -> Storage Media, I think you can modify/define new choices for the media notification popup |
| 05:15.43 | grendal_prime | nobody is interested |
| 05:15.50 | grendal_prime | thats what im working with Jucato |
| 05:16.11 | grendal_prime | this launches vlc but does nothing wxvlc %u |
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| 05:17.36 | Jucato | oh, and good morning icwiener :) |
| 05:17.51 | grendal_prime | this this wxvlc ://dvd (which works on a command line) fires up vlc but gives me the following error../media/cdrom0 is a folder, but a file was expected. |
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| 05:18.14 | icwiener | Jucato: I just wait for the stores to open and then I go to sleep. ;) |
| 05:18.15 | Jucato | ://dvd ? |
| 05:18.28 | icwiener | Isn't it dvd:/ ? |
| 05:18.29 | Jucato | icwiener: er?? night shift mode? |
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| 05:19.01 | grendal_prime | ya i want to put in a dvd and have vlc fire up...well i know what your thinking..but on this machine..ya it mounts it to the same spot. |
| 05:19.04 | Jucato | icwiener: I'm still craving for a pizza even after eating lunch. and I totally blame troy |
| 05:19.29 | icwiener | Jucato: Yupp. I'm always at night shift mode. I only have to break it when classes start. ;) |
| 05:19.37 | icwiener | haha |
| 05:19.58 | Jucato | oh well... bbl... |
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| 05:20.21 | Jucato | grendal_prime: sorry no idea about that.. if it works with vlc but not with wxvlc... then maybe there's something wrong with wxvlc? |
| 05:21.10 | Jucato | 91.5° F... I think my body deserves a bath :P |
| 05:21.13 | pip | Hello,I got a icon problem |
| 05:21.25 | Jucato | 33.1° C.. |
| 05:21.51 | pip | Why doesn't the files' icons show as desktop's effect in file manager ? |
| 05:22.03 | grendal_prime | from command line it works with ither one. |
| 05:22.35 | thread_au | hi all |
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| 05:22.47 | pip | Jucato, Hi |
| 05:23.03 | thread_au | after a couple of preconfigged installs, I set my own KDE up yesterday |
| 05:23.10 | thread_au | (sabayon/gentoo style) |
| 05:23.13 | thread_au | I'm basically wondering... |
| 05:23.21 | thread_au | where does the "compress as" context menu come from? |
| 05:23.25 | grendal_prime | thats what sucks its so close to working.. |
| 05:23.33 | icwiener | thread_au: Ark |
| 05:23.35 | thread_au | I have ark and compression methods installed |
| 05:23.48 | thread_au | how do I config ark to work with konq in right-click menus? |
| 05:23.56 | thread_au | or konq to work with ark |
| 05:24.06 | icwiener | thread_au: You have to set it up in Settings->Configure Ark... in Ark. :) |
| 05:24.10 | grendal_prime | if i could figure out how to feed the popup app the info that im typinginto the console..it would work.. |
| 05:24.31 | thread_au | ah |
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| 05:24.42 | thread_au | I *had* konqeror integration selected |
| 05:24.46 | thread_au | what I didn't see was the fine print |
| 05:24.55 | thread_au | "this will only work if you install <pkg>" |
| 05:24.59 | thread_au | at the bottom of the window :P |
| 05:25.01 | icwiener | hehe |
| 05:26.54 | thread_au | yuck |
| 05:26.56 | thread_au | many many blocks |
| 05:27.04 | thread_au | I installed kde with "kdebase-meta" |
| 05:27.12 | icwiener | Wow 167 Tracks in my last.fm queue in Amarok. Their servers really suck. ;) |
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| 05:27.28 | thread_au | how can I 'undo' the grouping to get the individual packages? |
| 05:27.35 | DaSkreech | Oh yeah Amarok |
| 05:27.40 | thread_au | (yay amarok :)) |
| 05:27.41 | DaSkreech | Forgot to try that in KDE4 |
| 05:27.56 | icwiener | thread_au: That's be a question for #sabayon, then. |
| 05:28.13 | icwiener | *That'd |
| 05:28.33 | thread_au | np |
| 05:28.36 | thread_au | I'm in there too :) |
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| 05:32.01 | pip | I think I opened the preview option,so how to shutdown it ? |
| 05:32.21 | thread_au | pip: what do you mean? |
| 05:32.27 | thread_au | preview of what? |
| 05:33.45 | icwiener | pip: In the file chooser? F11 |
| 05:34.45 | pip | thread_au, I mean the icon should be showing as what it is set in file associations ,for example ,a .java file should be showing like a cup of coffee,but some are some not |
| 05:35.14 | pip | and in kde file manger ,a .c file should be showing as a icon ,but it doesn |
| 05:35.38 | pip | *doesn't ,but only a plain paper with some words on it like ants |
| 05:36.06 | icwiener | pip: Control Center-> KDE Components->Filemanager |
| 05:36.18 | icwiener | third tab it must be |
| 05:37.23 | pip | which one should be checked ? |
| 05:37.51 | icwiener | If you want the previews to be gone, it should be unchecked... and it muste be "file" I guess. |
| 05:38.27 | pip | No,no ,I was not talking about previews |
| 05:38.42 | pip | I was asking about icon associations |
| 05:38.51 | icwiener | Here it says "Previes and Icon stuff" |
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| 05:39.55 | icwiener | For single Icons you can try rightclicking->properties and then click the icon... |
| 05:40.16 | pip | Not working |
| 05:40.19 | pip | I tried |
| 05:40.25 | pip | reboot ? |
| 05:40.44 | icwiener | No... at most restart into KDE. |
| 05:41.00 | pip | OK,I see |
| 05:42.30 | Jucato | gee it's still hot... :( |
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| 05:44.32 | DaSkreech | Jucato: bath in the fridge next time |
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| 05:44.41 | DaSkreech | my gf just sticks her head in the freezer |
| 05:45.14 | Jucato | lol |
| 05:45.58 | DaSkreech | http://pinheiro-kde.blogspot.com/2007/09/shaping-up-time-for-kde.html#c5193026266566989465 |
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| 05:46.06 | DaSkreech | Woah what happened there? |
| 05:46.12 | Jucato | gonna buy some Mt.Dew... |
| 05:46.25 | pip | Funny |
| 05:48.00 | pip | is there any command to clean the cache of kde icons ? |
| 05:48.10 | thread_au | DaSkreech: I remember back when I was living in a Res (Dorm-like) |
| 05:48.38 | thread_au | at about three am I was holding a japanese exchange student with her head in our corridor's bar fridge (horizontally) |
| 05:48.55 | thread_au | it was an odd situation to be in when |
| 05:49.00 | thread_au | someone walks out of their room and looks at you |
| 05:49.04 | DaSkreech | the cops walked in? |
| 05:49.10 | DaSkreech | damn |
| 05:49.11 | thread_au | haha, no |
| 05:49.13 | icwiener | pip: Maybe remove or rename ~/.thumbnails to give it a try. |
| 05:49.14 | DaSkreech | i was close :) |
| 05:49.20 | thread_au | she and I were good friends, btw |
| 05:49.21 | thread_au | but yeah |
| 05:49.31 | thread_au | "uh, carry on" was what was said :P |
| 05:50.11 | pip | icwiener, http://img359.imageshack.us/my.php?image=funnyok2.png |
| 05:50.28 | pip | my funny thing is that : ) |
| 05:50.56 | thread_au | oh |
| 05:51.06 | DaSkreech | pinheiro is hitting Digg a lot recently |
| 05:51.08 | pip | Ad you see,one .c file is looking good,and the other is NOT |
| 05:51.17 | pip | *As |
| 05:51.20 | thread_au | and what is the kde package/addon that realises when you copy a hyperlink, and offers to open it in konqeror or other browser? |
| 05:52.52 | thread_au | (rofl, and the song that comes on on amarok is"Microphone Fiend" by Rage Against the Machine |
| 05:53.01 | thread_au | I remember teaching her to sing it that long ago |
| 05:53.03 | thread_au | was quite amusing |
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| 05:54.10 | DaSkreech | audio or it didn't happen! |
| 05:54.33 | DaSkreech | .ogg plzkthnx ;-) |
| 05:54.39 | thread_au | haha |
| 05:54.44 | thread_au | 'twas hmmm |
| 05:54.45 | thread_au | 3 years ago now |
| 05:54.52 | thread_au | no |
| 05:54.52 | thread_au | 1 |
| 05:55.00 | thread_au | no 3 |
| 05:55.03 | thread_au | lol |
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| 05:55.21 | thread_au | (btw, it recognises a right-click copy) |
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| 05:56.15 | DaSkreech | Jucato: So waht's your jones for Koffice? |
| 05:57.21 | pip | icwiener, remove the content of .thumbnails ,is that dangerous ? |
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| 06:01.42 | DaSkreech | Chani: How cold does it get in china? |
| 06:01.52 | DaSkreech | My friend is going there in a few days |
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| 06:03.05 | thread_au | DaSkreech: what city? |
| 06:03.27 | DaSkreech | If I know him he doesn't know himself |
| 06:03.50 | DaSkreech | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:04.08 | DaSkreech | spend a night wherever you can sleep then go somewhere new the next day |
| 06:04.15 | thread_au | well |
| 06:04.17 | thread_au | varies a lot in china |
| 06:04.21 | pip | what does thumbnail embedded in files mean ? |
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| 06:04.32 | thread_au | 5 timezones and from the tropics to near-arctic |
| 06:04.53 | thread_au | pip: it measn that the thumbnail is stored in the file being previewed, not in a database |
| 06:04.55 | nocti | i download a tarball theme file, but i can't be recognized by theme manager, how do i install it? |
| 06:05.03 | thread_au | *from near the tropics |
| 06:05.08 | pip | what is thumbnail ? |
| 06:05.14 | thread_au | small preview image |
| 06:05.21 | thread_au | size of thumbnail :P |
| 06:05.32 | DaSkreech | SW of china he says |
| 06:05.32 | pip | thread_au, should I checked it ? |
| 06:05.39 | thread_au | DaSkreech: they have both elephants and ice statues in that country :P |
| 06:05.39 | DaSkreech | which is of corse a tiny tiny tint area |
| 06:05.43 | thread_au | pip: up ot you |
| 06:05.48 | DaSkreech | course |
| 06:05.48 | Jucato | nocti: try asking me :) |
| 06:05.48 | thread_au | south west? cool |
| 06:05.51 | nocti | Jucato! |
| 06:05.51 | thread_au | near tibet? or near vietnam? |
| 06:05.56 | Jucato | hehehe |
| 06:05.59 | thread_au | big differences :P |
| 06:06.00 | thread_au | snow and elephants |
| 06:06.00 | nocti | pano? |
| 06:06.16 | thread_au | I went to the south-west not too long ago |
| 06:06.40 | pip | thread_au, is there any command to clean the file icons cache ? |
| 06:06.40 | DaSkreech | First one then the other? :) |
| 06:07.39 | thread_au | pip: I don't know |
| 06:07.52 | thread_au | DaSkreech: I was in the mountainous part of Yunnan |
| 06:08.01 | thread_au | no elephants or peacocks :P |
| 06:08.08 | thread_au | or pandas! they were a bit further north |
| 06:08.24 | thread_au | DaSkreech: if you're curious baout the weather |
| 06:08.31 | thread_au | and a kde-user |
| 06:08.31 | thread_au | kweather! |
| 06:08.53 | DaSkreech | well thats in a few weeks |
| 06:09.27 | DaSkreech | and the only weather thing I ever found myself using was the one for firefox |
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| 06:18.39 | Jucato | DaSkreech: what do you mean by "my jones"? |
| 06:19.02 | DaSkreech | Jucato: What are you waiting for that you can't wait for |
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| 06:19.18 | Jucato | hm.. "stable" |
| 06:20.25 | DaSkreech | ha :) |
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| 06:21.02 | Jucato | but frankly one feature I'm really wishing for is one that the developers said they won't do.... |
| 06:21.21 | DaSkreech | Drop the K and just call it Office? |
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| 06:22.14 | thread_au | :) |
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| 06:23.57 | DaSkreech | Jucato: Won't do ever or won't for this relelase? |
| 06:24.14 | Jucato | won't do ever |
| 06:24.25 | Jucato | or until someone else does it for them. but they won't |
| 06:24.44 | DaSkreech | ooook what's that? |
| 06:25.34 | Jucato | the one thing imho OO.o does better than KOffice... |
| 06:26.10 | DaSkreech | Java databases? |
| 06:26.30 | Jucato | hehe no. MS formats |
| 06:27.08 | DaSkreech | Yeah I know. We could ship in Kubuntu if it did that |
| 06:27.20 | DaSkreech | Not that I don't use it already :) |
| 06:27.36 | Jucato | we'll ship it in Kubuntu for Koffice 2.0 anyway |
| 06:27.46 | DaSkreech | really? |
| 06:27.49 | DaSkreech | Hmm |
| 06:27.52 | qupada | Jucato: yeah, that's pretty much the reason i have OOo at work. looking forward to koffice2 |
| 06:27.52 | DaSkreech | and Ditch OO.o |
| 06:28.03 | DaSkreech | hmmm |
| 06:28.20 | qupada | the problems of working in a company where half the people are using windows and the rest linux |
| 06:28.36 | Jucato | s/company/world/ |
| 06:28.47 | qupada | some of them are using (gag) office 2007 too. stupid .***x files that nothing in linux will open regardless |
| 06:28.58 | DaSkreech | I don't mind having Windows inthe world |
| 06:29.03 | DaSkreech | Monocultures are bad |
| 06:29.07 | DaSkreech | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:29.16 | DaSkreech | And Haiku-OS |
| 06:29.21 | DaSkreech | though no one gives a damn about that :( |
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| 06:29.46 | Jucato | but that would defeat the purpose of Haiku |
| 06:30.03 | DaSkreech | qupada: Yet. It's a open format albeit stupidly convoluted so you should get decent compatibilty |
| 06:30.42 | qupada | hah. so open in fact that ISO voted to reject it |
| 06:30.59 | DaSkreech | Better than .doc and we have that |
| 06:31.13 | qupada | yeah, but at least things that aren't office 2007 will open .doc files |
| 06:31.36 | DaSkreech | and in time things that aren't from redmond will open ooxml |
| 06:31.50 | DaSkreech | and MS will point and say seeeeeee |
| 06:32.41 | DaSkreech | then probably sue |
| 06:32.55 | DaSkreech | I've never seen a company so conflicted |
| 06:33.43 | thread_au | and... |
| 06:33.54 | thread_au | MS Office stuffs up the format between windows and mac |
| 06:34.03 | thread_au | they write both Offices... what are they doing! |
| 06:34.09 | DaSkreech | Different teams |
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| 06:34.19 | DaSkreech | and I'm sure the Mac teams have as much say in MS as we do |
| 06:34.30 | thread_au | can't expect openoffice to iron out all the autoshape hiccups in both the offices are different with it too :P |
| 06:34.46 | thread_au | (not that you guys do... it's just some people see that as a downfall for OO.o |
| 06:34.54 | DaSkreech | Well as far as I know OO.o doesn't fully implement ODF either so... |
| 06:35.03 | thread_au | the autoshapes get shuffled, bu it's MS's problem |
| 06:35.17 | thread_au | Open Document Format? |
| 06:35.32 | Jucato | none has fully implemented ODF... if koffice devs are to be believed... |
| 06:35.34 | DaSkreech | Yeah there are corner cases outlined that Oo.o doesn't cater for |
| 06:35.41 | DaSkreech | I know |
| 06:35.45 | thread_au | I think the point I was making is that OO.o has stable files between OSes |
| 06:36.07 | qupada | tbh as a recent convert to LaTeX, i'm inclined to start sending people postscript files if they keep sending me .docx ones. nice chunky and light on cpu time to produce postscript |
| 06:36.09 | DaSkreech | I think Koffice is further along in one of the formats but Oo.o is still much better in ODF and MS Office |
| 06:36.18 | DaSkreech | both .binary and .xml |
| 06:36.38 | DaSkreech | thread_au: yeah if you use the same office suite |
| 06:37.05 | DaSkreech | qupada: I really should look into it |
| 06:37.11 | DaSkreech | same as i should look into docbook |
| 06:37.16 | DaSkreech | ah well |
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| 06:39.57 | thread_au | DaSkreech: yes, which MS Office seems to fail to do |
| 06:40.12 | thread_au | even better would be all suits, it is ture |
| 06:40.13 | thread_au | true |
| 06:40.23 | DaSkreech | thread_au: Not the same code not the same team not the same design |
| 06:40.40 | DaSkreech | honestly if they renamed the app it would save them a lot of grief |
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| 06:41.05 | DaSkreech | thread_au: hopefully ODF can slowly drag that carrot |
| 06:41.09 | thread_au | DaSkreech: yeah |
| 06:41.25 | thread_au | ODF is the format of |
| 06:41.30 | thread_au | ods odt? |
| 06:41.30 | thread_au | etc |
| 06:41.33 | thread_au | oop |
| 06:41.40 | DaSkreech | When most suites reach like 90% there then toss out ODF++ so they have something new to chase |
| 06:41.40 | thread_au | they're not the right extensions |
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| 06:41.59 | thread_au | DaSkreech: lol |
| 06:42.06 | DaSkreech | thread_au: yeah openDocument spreadsheet openDocument Text etc |
| 06:42.13 | thread_au | at the moment, my kweather applet is not doing transparency properly |
| 06:42.17 | thread_au | how do I fix it? |
| 06:42.20 | thread_au | i restarted kicker |
| 06:42.22 | thread_au | and added and removed it |
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| 06:44.31 | DaSkreech | Wait what the hell who is doing Soprano? |
| 06:44.47 | thread_au | sorry |
| 06:44.47 | thread_au | I left my mic on |
| 06:44.58 | DaSkreech | oh no wait I was thinking about sonnet |
| 06:45.16 | DaSkreech | never mind carry on belting |
| 06:45.21 | Jucato | hard without punctiuations.. |
| 06:45.26 | Jucato | er.. punctuations* |
| 06:46.05 | DaSkreech | Jucato: I'm terribly behind so I read c-d on the day they take it down now :( |
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| 06:46.12 | DaSkreech | I just saw that Sopranoserver works |
| 06:46.14 | DaSkreech | and I thought it was sonnet |
| 06:47.59 | DaSkreech | but trueg commited it |
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| 06:48.21 | DaSkreech | I can't imagine how many high profile apps he's working on side by side |
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| 06:48.56 | thread_au | yay, this weeks first xkcd is good: http://xkcd.com/314/ |
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| 08:09.20 | ali | I have problem with kopete. All messages I get from others the words is condensed whithout spacing like this "helloali" for hello ali. How can I solve this problem |
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| 08:11.35 | ali | can you indicate for me which folders for kopete I can clearn so I can do full reinstall of kopete. may be this resove the problem |
| 08:12.23 | Jejem | ~/.kde/share/apps/kopete* ~/.kde/share/config/kopeterc |
| 08:14.14 | ashtefere | hey guys, wondering if you can help me with a wine problem im having |
| 08:14.32 | ashtefere | whenever an app becomes fullscreen, my panels sit on top of it |
| 08:14.36 | ashtefere | eg any game |
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| 08:39.39 | gordonjcp | hi |
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| 08:39.49 | gordonjcp | how can I change the colours used for desktop icon colours? |
| 08:40.07 | gordonjcp | in particular, I want to get rid of the pale grey drop shadow/border thing |
| 08:40.22 | dason | i want to scan a doc with my hp380 aio and use efax to fax it. the scan program i have now is kooka which does not support tiff. which scan program would do it? |
| 08:40.40 | gordonjcp | dason: you could scan with kooka, and convert to a tiff |
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| 08:40.46 | gordonjcp | it's an extra step but it would work |
| 08:41.16 | dason | gordonjcp, thks but how to convert to tiff? in kooka? |
| 08:41.26 | gordonjcp | convert, maybe |
| 08:41.51 | dason | convert is a function of kooka or a separate program? |
| 08:42.12 | Jucato | wait, kooka can't do tiff? |
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| 08:42.35 | dason | Jucato, tiff is not in the list of format selectable. |
| 08:43.04 | Jucato | dang just realized I haven't setup my printer yet :P |
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| 08:43.39 | Jucato | annma!!!!!!! |
| 08:44.06 | Tm_T | Jucato: no, she's just a ghost |
| 08:44.13 | Jucato | Tm_T!!!!!!! |
| 08:44.22 | Tm_T | hi son |
| 08:44.30 | Jucato | liar :P |
| 08:44.40 | Tm_T | ? |
| 08:44.43 | Jucato | dason: hm.. you're right.. what distro are you on? |
| 08:44.51 | Jucato | Tm_T: you're not old :P |
| 08:44.59 | Tm_T | Jucato: but I am! |
| 08:45.02 | dason | Jucato, debian lenny. |
| 08:45.13 | Jucato | hm... kubuntu here... no tiff either... :( |
| 08:45.40 | dason | Jucato, any easy way to convert to tiff? |
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| 08:45.59 | annma | hi Jucato |
| 08:46.01 | annma | hi Tm_T |
| 08:46.13 | Tm_T | annma: hello there :) |
| 08:47.06 | Jucato | imagemagick + kipi-plugins? not really sure |
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| 08:49.22 | dason | Jucato, just got from surfing, ksendfax includes scanning. will take a further look into it. |
| 08:50.30 | Jucato | dason: seems like installing imagemagick adds Convert to -> TIF in Konqueror |
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| 09:16.58 | Chani | blaa |
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| 09:31.09 | Chani | china takes bureaucratic insanity to a whole new level. |
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| 09:31.28 | GraveDigger | how that? |
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| 09:32.39 | Chani | we're in courses, but we're not on the lists, so some of the teachhers are confused and send us to other teachers who are more confused |
| 09:33.08 | Chani | every second day we seem to spend a half hour waiting in a lineup only to be told we either don't need to or can't do what we were there for |
| 09:33.49 | Chani | oly one teacher in hte entire school seems to know what's going on, and every other teacher is always calling him |
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| 09:34.13 | Chani | but even he doesn't seem to know how I can get some kind of non-chinese-language course added to my schedule |
| 09:34.56 | Chani | and a million other little frustrating things |
| 09:35.26 | GraveDigger | hehe |
| 09:35.42 | GraveDigger | and i thought bureaucracy in germany was hell |
| 09:35.43 | GraveDigger | xD |
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| 09:42.15 | GNU\colossus | Chani: are you an exchange student? |
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| 09:44.27 | mm_202 | Hey guys, KUbuntu 7.10, KDE 3.5.7, and Im having a problem with /dev/dsp. Ive tried the usual 'fuser /dev/dsp' ,etc. But nothing seems to be using it. But all my KDE / X sounds work just fine. |
| 09:44.36 | mm_202 | Whats the deal with it and how do I fix it? |
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| 09:45.20 | pinotree | "Im having a problem with /dev/dsp" something less generic? |
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| 09:46.46 | mm_202 | play test.wav |
| 09:46.46 | mm_202 | sox: Can't open output file '/dev/dsp': Device or resource busy |
| 09:46.55 | mm_202 | Less generic enough? |
| 09:46.56 | pinotree | oh, and doing random commands like "fuser" or whatever without even knowing what the problem is, won't solve any issue |
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| 09:47.06 | pinotree | lsof /dev/dsp |
| 09:47.09 | mm_202 | But I'll head to #kubuntu |
| 09:47.14 | pinotree | simple: something is using the device |
| 09:47.29 | mm_202 | I did, lsof gives nothing. |
| 09:47.57 | mm_202 | pinotree: But not so simple, as far as linux is concerned, nothing is using it. |
| 09:48.13 | mm_202 | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/76876 |
| 09:48.26 | mm_202 | But it may just be a [K]ubuntu thing |
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| 09:49.17 | mm_202 | Thanks guys. |
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| 10:52.33 | sergio | hello |
| 10:52.55 | sergio | someone here |
| 10:53.31 | GraveDigger | no |
| 10:53.33 | pinotree | hi - just ask |
| 10:53.35 | GraveDigger | all gone |
| 10:53.39 | GraveDigger | besides pinotree |
| 10:53.40 | GraveDigger | =) |
| 10:53.58 | GraveDigger | :P |
| 10:54.20 | sergio | :) |
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| 10:55.52 | ctx144k | hello all |
| 10:56.39 | ctx144k | anybody knows in which xml-file I can define the size of the icons in my startmenue (im using debian etch with kde3.5.5) |
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| 10:58.33 | benJIman | ctx144k: Not xml, but ~/.kde/share/config/kickerrc iirc. |
| 10:58.49 | ctx144k | hmm, ill look |
| 10:58.57 | benJIman | Adjust MenuEntryHeight |
| 10:59.03 | benJIman | In [menus] |
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| 11:01.36 | ctx144k | benJIman, should i restart KDE after add that line: MenuEntryHeight=32 |
| 11:01.38 | ctx144k | ? |
| 11:01.47 | benJIman | ctx144k: Just "dcop kicker default restart" should do. |
| 11:02.34 | floe | Hi all. knotes and korganizer reminder daemon always start when I login. Even though I saved my "kde session" without them running. Plus settings not to start at login (in kreminder config) . Any ideas? |
| 11:02.58 | ctx144k | benJIman, thnx !! |
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| 11:03.28 | ctx144k | last time i changed it in one xml-file under /usr - but that is the better way ! |
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| 11:45.58 | Jucato | Sho_: thanks for the reply. haven't replied to your reply yet :) |
| 11:49.20 | Jucato | is it a losing battle? :) |
| 11:49.35 | Sho_ | so far yes |
| 11:49.39 | Jucato | ouch :( |
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| 11:56.34 | Roobarb-Work | Is there a KDE error log anywhere so I can debug by my screensaver isn't asking for a password as its configured to do? |
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| 11:57.07 | infidel | how can i stop konsole from opening max window? |
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| 11:58.06 | tbscope | Roobarb-Work: you can try /var/log/debug or /var/log/messages or any other log in /var/log. Otherwise, get the sourcecode and compile it yourself and add debug information. |
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| 12:03.02 | nhnFreespirit | Airer-girl: only on one virtual desktop? No idea, sorry... |
| 12:03.28 | Airer-girl | hm |
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| 12:10.51 | ragnz | can anyone help me in building KDE 4 on Kubuntu Gutsy. |
| 12:10.52 | ragnz | ? |
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| 12:12.10 | pinotree | ... and the problem is? |
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| 12:14.09 | evilgnome | hi, can anyone tell me how to change the time in korganizer to 12-hour mode, and to make the first day of the week Sunday? I don't have kde installed |
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| 12:17.04 | ragnaz | who here can help me build kde 4 on kubuntu gutsy? |
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| 12:17.37 | annma | build, from svn? |
| 12:17.41 | ragnaz | yep |
| 12:17.45 | pinotree | ... and the problem is? |
| 12:17.49 | annma | can't you use some KUbuntu packages? |
| 12:17.59 | ragnaz | well I want to develop |
| 12:18.05 | ragnaz | and the kde 4 packages are really broken anyway |
| 12:18.17 | annma | ok so please follow the techbase doc |
| 12:18.21 | ragnaz | yep |
| 12:18.22 | ragnaz | i am |
| 12:18.36 | annma | so paste any error in a pastebin please |
| 12:18.37 | ragnaz | but there is a line that throws an error |
| 12:18.41 | ragnaz | ok |
| 12:18.49 | annma | paste BEFORE the error |
| 12:18.56 | annma | make VERBOSE=1 |
| 12:18.57 | ragnaz | ok |
| 12:20.03 | ragnaz | I didn't even get to the make command because this line gives me error: |
| 12:20.03 | ragnaz | ./configure -qt-gif -no-exceptions -debug -fast \ |
| 12:20.03 | ragnaz | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:20.19 | ragnaz | examples:unknown argument |
| 12:20.34 | pinotree | ragnaz: for pasting stuff, rafb.net/paste please |
| 12:20.38 | ragnaz | ok |
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| 12:22.43 | pinotree | ragnaz: the command line there is wrong, i'll fix in a moment |
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| 12:23.59 | ragnaz | http://rafb.net/p/YJbA2U26.html |
| 12:24.18 | Chani | GNU\colossus: it's a bit more compliacted than that. |
| 12:24.27 | Chani | *complicated |
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| 12:24.56 | pinotree | ragnaz: no, the line is correct, it's you that applied it wrongly |
| 12:25.27 | pinotree | ... -fast \ > -prefix ... is not valid |
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| 12:25.44 | pinotree | remove the > |
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| 12:27.59 | pinotree | ragnaz: .... hello? |
| 12:28.02 | ragnaz | ic ok |
| 12:28.22 | sabayonlive-2668 | guys |
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| 12:28.33 | sabayonlive-2668 | how to install flash player for the web browser ??? |
| 12:28.41 | sabayonlive-2668 | please help T__T |
| 12:28.51 | Jucato | sabayonlive-2668: please ask in #sabayon ^_^ |
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| 12:33.11 | zamolxis | care on aici? |
| 12:33.18 | zamolxis | i need help |
| 12:34.24 | Jucato | life without X is life without KDE... :( |
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| 12:38.49 | ragnaz | using the techbase doc, KDE 4 should just build out of the box on Kubuntu Gutsy right? |
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| 12:42.05 | yellowChicken | where can i download some kde-dragon wall paper? |
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| 12:43.01 | annma | yellowChicken: look at kde-look.org |
| 12:43.33 | yellowChicken | annma: i was there, but can't find any |
| 12:43.55 | yellowChicken | is there a specific folder? |
| 12:45.00 | Jucato | um.. Wallpapers? |
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| 12:45.19 | Jucato | you can also check www.kde.org under Merchandise -> Clipart |
| 12:45.45 | BadRobot | why they are dealing the kde4 release? |
| 12:45.55 | Jucato | why? |
| 12:45.57 | annma | yellowChicken: go to wallpapers in kde-look.org |
| 12:45.58 | Jucato | dealing? |
| 12:46.16 | annma | yellowChicken: type 'konqi' in the search box |
| 12:46.24 | BadRobot | i mean delaying |
| 12:46.31 | annma | konqi not konqui |
| 12:46.38 | Jucato | BadRobot: http://dot.kde.org |
| 12:46.41 | BadRobot | sorry bad spell |
| 12:46.43 | annma | BadRobot: because we need more time and all releases are delayed |
| 12:46.54 | annma | even proprietary software |
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| 12:47.01 | yellowChicken | ok thanks' |
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| 12:47.22 | Jucato | at least it wasn't delayed for 2 years ;) |
| 12:47.46 | BadRobot | but anyway you guys are doing a very great job |
| 12:47.59 | annma | thanks BadRobot |
| 12:48.03 | niyaz | hi |
| 12:48.12 | Jucato | the delay is to make sure they do an even greater job :P |
| 12:48.13 | niyaz | i'm looking for a beautiful girl |
| 12:48.15 | niyaz | i'm looking for a beautiful girl |
| 12:48.19 | Jucato | annma: |
| 12:48.22 | niyaz | for friendship |
| 12:48.24 | niyaz | for friendship |
| 12:48.24 | Mirrakor | good bye :) |
| 12:48.26 | Jucato | wear your crown quick! |
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| 12:48.38 | BadRobot | Vusta is rubbish and they have been developing it for 4-6 years |
| 12:48.43 | BadRobot | vista |
| 12:49.10 | Jucato | vusta. nice typo hehehe |
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| 12:49.25 | BadRobot | no,i have very fat and big fingers |
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| 12:49.54 | annma | kickban list is full, what do I do? |
| 12:50.07 | *** kick/#kde [niyaz!n=annma@kde/annma] by annma (User terminated!) |
| 12:50.11 | Mirrakor | Remove an old ban ;) |
| 12:50.11 | Jucato | annma: remove one :) |
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| 12:50.20 | annma | how? |
| 12:50.26 | BadRobot | sorry niyaz this is the wrong channel for that |
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| 12:50.28 | Jucato | annma: using konvi? |
| 12:50.28 | *** kick/#kde [niyaz!n=annma@kde/annma] by annma (User terminated!) |
| 12:50.47 | annma | yes |
| 12:50.52 | Mirrakor | Right klick in channel -> Settings for #kde -> Banlist |
| 12:50.59 | Jucato | annma: click on the icon beside the channel topic at the top |
| 12:51.02 | Mirrakor | "delete entry" |
| 12:51.12 | Jucato | that works too :) |
| 12:51.12 | BadRobot | try match.com |
| 12:51.37 | Jucato | BadRobot: IRC survival lesson #1: Do not feed the trolls :) |
| 12:51.44 | Jucato | or other vermin for that matter |
| 12:52.39 | *** mode/#kde [-b GNOME4EVER!*@*] by annma |
| 12:53.16 | Jucato | wow lots of bans dating way back july :) |
| 12:53.20 | Mirrakor | annma: I'm not sure if you still have to set a ban against niyaz, it seems he accepted that he got kicked ;) |
| 12:53.32 | Jucato | thrice |
| 12:53.36 | Jucato | that's gotta hurt :) |
| 12:53.42 | Mirrakor | hehe |
| 12:54.06 | Mirrakor | hm.. I don't get the sorting mechanism of Konversation.. |
| 12:54.11 | annma | i have to go for a few minutes |
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| 12:54.16 | annma | I did not ban him yet |
| 12:54.49 | Jucato | Mirrakor: ask Sho_ :) |
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| 12:54.56 | Mirrakor | when I click on "Added" then it shows me an arrow, but it's going like xx.08.2007 -> xx.07.2007 -> xx.06.2007 -> xx.07.2007 -> xx.08.2007 |
| 12:55.07 | Jucato | I don't understand why some July dates go before June either |
| 12:55.11 | Mirrakor | right, he's the maintainer, is he around? |
| 12:55.18 | Mirrakor | Jucato: me not neither |
| 12:55.19 | Jucato | yeah but he's a bit busy |
| 12:55.27 | Jucato | wrestling with X is never a good thing. |
| 12:55.31 | Mirrakor | lol |
| 12:55.36 | Jucato | try asking in #konversation where more souls might respond |
| 12:55.48 | Jucato | now for that mt.dew |
| 12:55.52 | Mirrakor | it's not that important ;) |
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| 13:01.10 | Mirrakor | anyone knows how long OCR usually takes with kooka(using ocrad)? |
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| 13:10.23 | DarkED | hi, i'm having a problem with amarok |
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| 13:11.04 | DarkED | for some reason it's running VERY slow |
| 13:11.23 | DarkED | for example, cover manager is taking forever to load my artwork - at this rate it's one album per 30 seconds or so |
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| 13:12.55 | AmyRose | DarkED: And what distro/OS are you on? |
| 13:13.15 | AmyRose | DarkED: Also, Amarok has its own channel too: #amarok |
| 13:13.42 | DarkED | AmyRose, ahh, it's ubuntu 7.04, and if i need to i'll head to #amarok? |
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| 13:16.26 | Mirrakor | DarkED: let's put it this way: the chances are far greater that someone in #amarok knows your problem and response to it than here :) |
| 13:16.37 | AmyRose | DarkED: Just out of curiosity, are you using Kubuntu or Ubuntu? :P |
| 13:16.53 | DarkED | AmyRose, it's Ubuntu (gnome) :) |
| 13:17.02 | DarkED | Mirrakor, i hear you |
| 13:17.15 | Mirrakor | hehe |
| 13:17.22 | AmyRose | aww, DarkED, you disappoint me =P |
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| 13:17.30 | DarkED | AmyRose, hey now, i like KDE :) |
| 13:17.37 | DarkED | it's just that installing it right now isn't an option |
| 13:18.06 | AmyRose | DarkED: Aww! :'( |
| 13:18.14 | DarkED | AmyRose, yeah, tell me about it |
| 13:18.36 | DarkED | i wanted the latest version of ubuntu but all i had was the ubuntu (gnome) 7.04 cd and the kubuntu 6.10 |
| 13:18.47 | DarkED | so rather than dist-upgrading i wanted a clean reinstall |
| 13:18.50 | AmyRose | DarkED: Uh, sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop ? |
| 13:18.52 | DarkED | but now my disk is full |
| 13:18.54 | AmyRose | oh |
| 13:18.58 | DarkED | yeah |
| 13:19.07 | DarkED | i have to delete some things before i can make room for kde |
| 13:19.09 | AmyRose | DarkED: There are directions on www.psychocats.net for removing GNOME |
| 13:19.40 | AmyRose | http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekde |
| 13:19.59 | AmyRose | They will also install KDE for you if you don't already have it |
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| 13:20.13 | AmyRose | Hope that helps you |
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| 13:20.23 | DarkED | AmyRose, yeah but i use gnome apps too (gimp, openoffice, VLC, etc) |
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| 13:20.31 | DarkED | so i have to have them both installed to use kde :( |
| 13:20.50 | Rasi | hi there |
| 13:20.59 | Rasi | i have a question concerning mouse gestures |
| 13:21.03 | Rasi | i had them working |
| 13:21.14 | Rasi | but i just reinstalled and they dont work anymore |
| 13:21.23 | Rasi | i enabled them in regional settings |
| 13:21.43 | Rasi | but konqueror is just not taking notice of that setting it seems |
| 13:21.48 | AmyRose | DarkED: OpenOffice is both a KDE and a GNOME app :P |
| 13:22.01 | Rasi | it neither kde nor gnome |
| 13:22.03 | Rasi | its java |
| 13:22.15 | Rasi | it just has the ability to look like both |
| 13:22.19 | DarkED | ah |
| 13:22.23 | DarkED | i never knew that |
| 13:22.28 | DarkED | but i know that gimp is GTK |
| 13:22.31 | sabayonlive-1347 | How to rebuild my kmenu? |
| 13:22.42 | annma | sabayonlive-1347: kbuildsycoca |
| 13:22.50 | AmyRose | sabayonlive-1347: http://docs.kde.org/stable/en/kdebase/faq/panel.html#id2552525 |
| 13:22.53 | annma | type taht in konsole |
| 13:23.04 | thiago | GTK = Gimp ToolKit |
| 13:23.12 | thiago | at least, that's how it started |
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| 13:26.25 | Sho_ | Jucato: Ha, I won (over X) |
| 13:26.31 | sabayonlive-1347 | vmware-workstation can't display in my K menu,why |
| 13:26.36 | Jucato | Sho_: yay! :) |
| 13:26.48 | Jucato | good always triumphs over X :) |
| 13:27.04 | AmyRose | Jucato: I hope not. |
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| 13:27.25 | AmyRose | Jucato: I corrected my Linux 3 teacher when he said GTK stood for GNOME Tool Kit though |
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| 13:27.49 | Jucato | AmyRose: I thought it was slowly becoming that :) |
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| 13:28.57 | kornerr | hi |
| 13:29.17 | AmyRose | hahaha @ Jucato |
| 13:29.31 | kornerr | i can't find 'kchmviewer' executable, but external app runs CHM inside it |
| 13:29.33 | AmyRose | Nah, Quasar Technologies is a cooler name than KDE Toolkit :P |
| 13:29.38 | kornerr | what is the cmd for kchmviewer? |
| 13:29.50 | Jucato | "kchmviewer" |
| 13:29.50 | AmyRose | kornerr: It should be /usr/bin/kchmviewer... ? |
| 13:30.02 | _Angelus_ | anyone saw the heroes series here? |
| 13:30.03 | Jucato | you should ask in your distro's channel where it put kchmviewer |
| 13:30.12 | kornerr | hm.. |
| 13:30.15 | kornerr | yeah |
| 13:30.18 | kornerr | hm |
| 13:30.30 | kornerr | ah, lol |
| 13:30.32 | _Angelus_ | in heroes , they use KDE 2.xx |
| 13:30.34 | kornerr | it's shipped with VirtualBox |
| 13:30.37 | kornerr | ok, cu |
| 13:30.38 | kornerr | thanks |
| 13:30.38 | _Angelus_ | i was surprised |
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| 13:30.41 | _Angelus_ | :o |
| 13:31.11 | ctx144k | i have a special question. in konqueror exists the left bar with buttons to change for example to the ROOT -directory |
| 13:31.41 | ctx144k | when i click on that button, konqueror changed in the left side to the ROOT-direcroty |
| 13:32.01 | ctx144k | but in the main-window i dont see the content of ROOT-directory |
| 13:32.25 | ctx144k | i must first klick in the left side on the "ROOT"-direkctoy icon |
| 13:32.53 | Beyonder | Good day. Why is my kde showing wrong refresh rates in control center? My monitor is working perfectly on 85hz, but control center shows only 50-55 interval. X starts with normal 85hz, but kde wont allow changing to anuthing but 50-55. |
| 13:32.57 | ctx144k | is there a way to change directly in the different directorys? |
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| 13:38.08 | sabayonlive-1347 | kbuildsycoca --menutest |
| 13:38.09 | sabayonlive-1347 | kbuildsycoca running... |
| 13:38.09 | sabayonlive-1347 | Reusing existing ksycoca |
| 13:38.09 | sabayonlive-1347 | kio (KService*): WARNING: The desktop entry file .hidden/kdiff3plugin.desktop has Type=Service but is located under "apps" instead of "services" |
| 13:38.38 | sabayonlive-1347 | anyone can help me |
| 13:39.15 | annma | for what? warnings are frequent and harmless |
| 13:40.38 | pinotree | sabayonlive-1347: what's the problem with that? |
| 13:40.53 | sabayonlive-1347 | annma:and kio (KSycoca): ERROR: No database available! |
| 13:40.58 | pinotree | normal |
| 13:41.06 | pinotree | you can safely ignore than |
| 13:41.10 | pinotree | *that |
| 13:41.11 | AmyRose | hi pinotree |
| 13:41.14 | pinotree | 'lo |
| 13:41.46 | Mirrakor | sabayonlive-1347: the other warning simply means that your distro put kdiff3plugin into another location than the official recommendation |
| 13:41.56 | Mirrakor | nothing to worry about either :) |
| 13:42.40 | sabayonlive-1347 | thanks |
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| 14:12.39 | brot | hi. |
| 14:12.42 | PhinnFort | isn't it the international hug day today? |
| 14:13.06 | brot | someone here knows why kdetalk.net is down ? |
| 14:13.51 | PhinnFort | brot: I can ping it |
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| 14:14.01 | PhinnFort | brot: I think it's rebooting |
| 14:14.10 | PhinnFort | i know get I don't have permissions |
| 14:14.17 | PhinnFort | so either it's rebooting or it's getting pwned |
| 14:14.37 | pinotree | it works now |
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| 14:14.59 | PhinnFort | no, it doesn't |
| 14:15.06 | brot | hooray. |
| 14:15.07 | PhinnFort | You don't have permission to access / on this server. |
| 14:15.11 | brot | it works now :) |
| 14:16.00 | PhinnFort | :´( |
| 14:16.02 | PhinnFort | nope |
| 14:16.23 | brot | PhinnFort: i meant the jabber service on kdetalk.net. |
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| 14:17.50 | PhinnFort | ok |
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| 14:22.40 | vlt | Hello. How can I force K-Mail to refresh the contents of an IMAP maildir. The mails shown currently are not the ones on the server. |
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| 14:23.16 | brot | pinotree: now its down again :( |
| 14:23.21 | pinotree | yeah |
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| 14:24.02 | Sho_ | Jucato: replied |
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| 14:24.46 | brot | it would be nice to have the status of it displayed on the kdepage, and maybe some infos why it is down. |
| 14:25.07 | PhinnFort | vlt: file -> refresh local imap cache? |
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| 14:27.23 | vlt | PhinnFort: That doesn't help. Any other idea? |
| 14:27.36 | PhinnFort | vlt: is your IMAP server working? |
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| 14:27.44 | vlt | PhinnFort: Yes. |
| 14:27.52 | PhinnFort | vlt: try quitting and re-entering kmail |
| 14:27.59 | vlt | PhinnFort: already did. |
| 14:28.12 | PhinnFort | vlt: then I really don't know... I have IMAP working perfectly here |
| 14:28.26 | PhinnFort | vlt: are you sure there isn't any updated settings or anyting? |
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| 14:28.44 | PhinnFort | on the server <-> in your kmail settings |
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| 14:31.51 | vlt | PhinnFort: I have one kmail account to look into several IMAP accounts from time to time. I just change the login and pw, but sometimes the wrong IMAP dir is shown .... |
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| 14:32.48 | PhinnFort | vlt: which distro are you using? |
| 14:33.05 | PhinnFort | vlt: I'm on Kubuntu gutsy, which has an "enterprise" patched version of the kdepim apps |
| 14:33.13 | PhinnFort | (better imap support, amongst other things) |
| 14:33.26 | vlt | PhinnFort: Kubuntu Dapper LTS |
| 14:33.40 | PhinnFort | vlt: is upgrading to gutsy an option? |
| 14:33.54 | vlt | PhinnFort: Not on this machine (50+ users) |
| 14:33.57 | PhinnFort | heh |
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| 14:34.47 | PhinnFort | Sho_: I think kio_thumbnail uses exif info |
| 14:35.00 | PhinnFort | Sho_: I have a faint memory of seeing my photos the right way |
| 14:35.05 | Sho_ | PhinnFort: ah |
| 14:35.21 | Sho_ | PhinnFort: I've never tried or needed it, but reading about it it strikes me as a neat feature ;) |
| 14:35.26 | PhinnFort | ;) |
| 14:35.51 | PhinnFort | Sho_: If something gnome related implements a neat feature, it was probably seen in KDE first;) |
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| 14:36.04 | PhinnFort | think yakuake, amarok, khotnewstuff, dbus, etc. |
| 14:36.05 | PhinnFort | :P |
| 14:36.12 | Sho_ | PhinnFort: That's true ... a lot of stuff in the 2.20 announcement KDE has had for *years* |
| 14:36.55 | Sho_ | PhinnFort: Of course the first platform that had Yakuake was really id Software's Quake ... desktop ... ;) |
| 14:36.58 | PhinnFort | :P |
| 14:37.14 | PhinnFort | well, it's a genius idea |
| 14:37.22 | Sho_ | PhinnFort: I'm wondering why nobody has tried to turn Quake 2 into a compositing window manager where you can close windows by shooting them with the rocket launcher |
| 14:37.27 | PhinnFort | rotfl |
| 14:37.30 | Sho_ | PhinnFort: That would be an instant Slashdot classic |
| 14:37.33 | PhinnFort | hehe |
| 14:38.16 | redsh | hi everybody |
| 14:38.19 | redsh | i am trying to setup my laptop for kde4 development, but when i type cmakekde in kdelibs i get this error: CMake Error: Qt compiled without support for -fvisibility=hidden. how do i enable -fvisibility hidden? |
| 14:38.34 | PhinnFort | if just kubuntu could get their stuff together and get that patch for proper transparency support in konsole... |
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| 14:41.12 | Sho_ | PhinnFort: There's no patch required for 3.5.7 |
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| 14:49.44 | PhinnFort | Sho_: how then? |
| 14:49.56 | PhinnFort | do i get proper transparency in yakuake |
| 14:49.57 | PhinnFort | brb |
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| 14:57.12 | DarkED | PhinnFort, first thing you need to realize is, yakuake isn't konsole |
| 14:57.22 | DarkED | second thing is, compiz-fusion is your friend |
| 14:57.35 | PhinnFort | DarkED: yakuake is a konsolepart app |
| 14:57.50 | DarkED | PhinnFort, yes but it's not konsole |
| 14:57.57 | Sho_ | PhinnFort: unfortunately konsolepart is a far cry from Konsole-the-app, though ... |
| 14:58.03 | DarkED | it has transparency, you just have to look around |
| 14:58.07 | Sho_ | PhinnFort: In 3, that is - in 4, things are a lot better |
| 14:58.33 | PhinnFort | well, it's the konsolepart that has transparency, afaik |
| 14:58.51 | Sho_ | PhinnFort: Konsole doesn't use Konsolepart ;) |
| 14:58.55 | DarkED | PhinnFort, like i said, why not use compiz? |
| 14:59.11 | PhinnFort | DarkED: because it wants the whole gnome shebang here |
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| 14:59.23 | PhinnFort | and it's buggy and unstable |
| 14:59.23 | DarkED | PhinnFort, gnome? |
| 14:59.25 | PhinnFort | :P |
| 14:59.26 | DarkED | lol |
| 14:59.27 | DarkED | please |
| 14:59.30 | PhinnFort | DarkED: gnomelibs |
| 14:59.34 | PhinnFort | or whatever |
| 14:59.37 | DarkED | compiz-fusion is more stable than yakuake, i know that |
| 14:59.52 | DarkED | also, last i checked, compiz-fusion doesn't use gnome libs |
| 14:59.54 | PhinnFort | DarkED: three lines of gnome-specific libs and stuff |
| 14:59.59 | PhinnFort | from aptitude |
| 15:00.05 | DarkED | the configurator does |
| 15:00.11 | DarkED | not actual compiz-fusion |
| 15:00.17 | DarkED | also, it's not that big a deal |
| 15:00.24 | PhinnFort | DarkED: well, how am I supposed to configure it without the configurator? |
| 15:00.26 | PhinnFort | :P |
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| 15:00.35 | DarkED | PhinnFort, it's called vi ;) |
| 15:00.40 | DarkED | or kate, whatever :) |
| 15:01.10 | Jucato | Sho_: thanks for the reply. I might try to understand it better after I recover from this asthma thing + meds... |
| 15:01.12 | PhinnFort | DarkED: but afaik (last i tried) it doen't use config files like normal sane apps |
| 15:01.13 | DarkED | PhinnFort, how much ram do you have? |
| 15:01.19 | Sho_ | Jucato: oh - get better soon! |
| 15:01.20 | PhinnFort | DarkED: 2 gb |
| 15:01.29 | DarkED | PhinnFort, and you're complaining about a few gnome libs? |
| 15:01.32 | DarkED | are you serious? |
| 15:01.34 | Jucato | Sho_: thanks again. I really appreciate the guidance :) |
| 15:01.36 | PhinnFort | DarkED: it's my laptop |
| 15:01.41 | DarkED | dude i have 512meg and i use amarok on gnomew |
| 15:01.47 | DarkED | um, yes, it's a laptop here too |
| 15:01.51 | DarkED | that doesn't mean jack |
| 15:02.01 | PhinnFort | well, kdelibs > gnome's |
| 15:02.06 | Sho_ | PhinnFort: In any case, compiz-fusion won't solve your problem by itself because it will only allow you to adjust the translucency of the entire window (which kompmgr would let you do too, which KDE has shipped since before compiz even existed) rather than make only the background of the terminal widget translucent |
| 15:02.15 | PhinnFort | Sho_: exactly |
| 15:02.42 | PhinnFort | Sho_: I had kompmgr running for a while, until yakuake started crashing my xorg for it |
| 15:02.59 | PhinnFort | (or so i suspected) |
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| 15:03.28 | PhinnFort | apart from the fact that it's dead slow compared to compiz, since it isn't gl accelerated |
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| 15:05.24 | PhinnFort | ...or totally neglecting the konversation code?:P |
| 15:05.43 | Jucato | "Sho_" and "neglect" never mix... |
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| 15:05.50 | PhinnFort | ;) |
| 15:06.08 | Tm_T | hi Jucato, how are you kid? |
| 15:06.14 | nhnFreespirit | No commit-digest today? |
| 15:06.24 | Jucato | Tm_T: not so well... asthma attack every now and then... :( |
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| 15:06.40 | Tm_T | Jucato: say "shoo!" for it |
| 15:07.18 | Sho_ | Jucato: Replying to what, and looking in the code for what? |
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| 15:07.38 | Jucato | [23:02] <PhinnFort> Sho_: I had kompmgr running for a while, until yakuake started crashing my xorg for it |
| 15:07.59 | Jucato | nvm... salbutamol must be getting to my brain... |
| 15:07.59 | Sho_ | Jucato: It's xorg that crashes, not Yakuake :) |
| 15:08.12 | PhinnFort | Jucato: I've talked to him about it before (using beryl then) |
| 15:08.14 | Jucato | and he's blaming yakuake! the nerve! hehehe |
| 15:08.30 | Jucato | yeah yeah.. just trying to stir the darn pot :P |
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| 15:09.01 | Sho_ | Jucato: Well, Yakuake implements some unusual behaviors, which tends to uncover bugs in other things - it has uncovered crash bugs in kwin, too |
| 15:09.27 | Jucato | and Seli fixed them in Kwin 4 I hope? :) |
| 15:09.43 | Sho_ | Jucato: The last known one was fixed in 3.5.7 |
| 15:09.44 | PhinnFort | Jucato: maybe he upgraded them to features? |
| 15:09.50 | Jucato | aah |
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| 15:11.20 | Jucato | hm... GUI is optional but desired of course |
| 15:11.37 | PhinnFort | maybe make Keep sync .kde between them? |
| 15:11.46 | PhinnFort | or ~ |
| 15:11.58 | Jucato | hm.. I thought Keep just backed up files? |
| 15:12.09 | Jucato | I'm looking into rsync and unison right now |
| 15:12.17 | PhinnFort | well, it's using rsync, I think |
| 15:12.24 | Jucato | Keep uses rdiff |
| 15:12.27 | PhinnFort | oh |
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| 15:14.25 | Jucato | it's during these times when the whole config separate from app data thing bothers me... but I know it must be good, since it's *nix :) |
| 15:15.32 | PhinnFort | Jucato: well, as long as it's consistent, it should be much harder to sync, it's just two dirs instead of one |
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| 15:16.00 | Jucato | which makes it just slightly harder, just slightly :) |
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| 15:16.34 | Jucato | specially when you're not going to sync whole dirs, but individual files in config/ |
| 15:16.42 | Jucato | oh well, back to researching. |
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| 15:19.37 | khatahn | anyone happen to know how to decrypt or reset the vnc server (krfb) password in kde without having access to the gui? |
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| 15:25.16 | PhinnFort | khatahn: looked in ~/.kde/share/config/krfbrc |
| 15:25.19 | PhinnFort | ? |
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| 15:26.13 | khatahn | PhinnFort: yeah, the password is there but encrypted |
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| 15:26.28 | khatahn | PhinnFort: and i just can't remember what i set it to |
| 15:26.39 | PhinnFort | khatahn: I don't know what kind of encryption it uses, but if you know you can just try to replace the hash |
| 15:27.01 | PhinnFort | you could also try to set the password to nothing |
| 15:27.02 | PhinnFort | '' |
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| 15:27.22 | PhinnFort | how can i make shift-click in konqueror open the link in a background tab, instead of try to save it? |
| 15:27.32 | khatahn | that wouldn't really be too safe |
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| 15:28.12 | thiago | PhinnFort: Shift+click always downloads |
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| 15:28.24 | thiago | it's been like that since the very early Netscape versions, AFAIK |
| 15:28.28 | PhinnFort | thiago: is it possible to change that behaviour somehow? |
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| 15:28.33 | PhinnFort | (not in IE, btw) |
| 15:28.40 | thiago | PhinnFort: no, not that I know of. |
| 15:28.43 | PhinnFort | :( |
| 15:28.55 | PhinnFort | whoops -> http://websvn.kde.org/ |
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| 15:29.01 | PhinnFort | kde not found |
| 15:29.56 | Sho_ | PhinnFort: http://lxr.kde.org/ is still up if you need source access |
| 15:29.56 | PhinnFort | how am I supposed to find the algorithm now? |
| 15:30.17 | PhinnFort | thanks |
| 15:30.21 | Sho_ | (lxr is generally preferrable to WebSVN if "the code is from today" is good enough, because it's (a) much faster and (b) searchable) |
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| 15:31.01 | PhinnFort | oh, ok |
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| 15:32.03 | PhinnFort | khatahn: I don't think the password's encrypted |
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| 15:32.54 | PhinnFort | khatahn: try just replacing the password string with some random characters (4 characters, "-", 3 characters) |
| 15:33.03 | Jucato | btw, what does lxr really mean? |
| 15:33.08 | PhinnFort | shouldn't contain i, I, o, O, 1, 0 |
| 15:33.44 | PhinnFort | leet haXor repository? |
| 15:34.21 | Jucato | heh |
| 15:34.23 | khatahn | PhinnFort: it was set with uninvitedPasswordCrypted, but i found out that i can set it manually with uninvitedPassword so that it's not crypted. so it works now, thanks for the help :) |
| 15:34.34 | PhinnFort | hehe, yw;) |
| 15:36.36 | Sho_ | Jucato: "Linux Cross Reference", originally |
| 15:36.46 | Jucato | oh... |
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| 15:36.51 | Sho_ | Jucato: Which then evolved into http://sourceforge.net/projects/lxr |
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| 15:37.15 | Jucato | aaah... didn't want to rename it to kxr? :) |
| 15:37.22 | ccherrett | kde has stopped recieving my password. When I boot to terminal passwords work |
| 15:37.24 | ccherrett | any idea? |
| 15:37.30 | Sho_ | Jucato: It wasn't developed by KDE |
| 15:37.50 | PhinnFort | ccherrett: distro? |
| 15:37.53 | Jucato | ah ok.. so lxr is the software used by lxr.kde.org hm.. ok |
| 15:38.00 | Sho_ | Jucato: exactly |
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| 15:38.17 | Jucato | heh I thought it was just sort of "inspired" by the original lxr. :) |
| 15:38.27 | ccherrett | PhinnFort: gentoo |
| 15:38.40 | PhinnFort | ccherrett: try #gentoo |
| 15:38.48 | aseigo | ccherrett: you mean you can't log in via kdm? or password dialogs in a kde session aren't accepting your password? or? |
| 15:38.52 | ccherrett | really? |
| 15:39.05 | ccherrett | PhinnFort: ^^ |
| 15:39.24 | PhinnFort | :P |
| 15:39.25 | ccherrett | aseigo: it only seems to be the root password in all apps inside KDE |
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| 15:39.56 | ccherrett | aseigo: password is still good outside of KDE |
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| 15:40.08 | PhinnFort | the panel is broken, though |
| 15:40.27 | PhinnFort | "this object could not be created" |
| 15:40.45 | Jucato | PhinnFort: you need to build playground/base/plasma |
| 15:40.55 | PhinnFort | Jucato: I use the kubuntu packages, just for fun;) |
| 15:41.03 | Jucato | ah no luck then :P |
| 15:41.14 | fulat2k | PhinnFort: r u using kubuntu 7.04? |
| 15:41.17 | PhinnFort | 7.10 |
| 15:41.29 | Jucato | it's more fun to watch scrolling compile output |
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| 15:42.10 | fulat2k | well, happens in both 7.10 and 7.04 actully |
| 15:42.10 | PhinnFort | ah, the non-creating objects can be moved around, very funny indeed |
| 15:42.17 | Sho_ | Jucato: time to get your Gentoo back then ;) |
| 15:42.30 | PhinnFort | and they interact |
| 15:42.35 | Jucato | hahah don't worry. Kubuntu or Gentoo I still compile stuff :) |
| 15:42.48 | ccherrett | aseigo: so password sessions in kde are not working |
| 15:42.49 | Jucato | PhinnFort: they're sort of placeholders, for stuff in playground plasma :P |
| 15:42.57 | Jucato | which no one packaged :P |
| 15:43.02 | PhinnFort | :P |
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| 15:43.21 | PhinnFort | Jucato: I've seen pretty screenshots of it, so I know what should be there, though |
| 15:44.03 | aseigo | ccherrett: "root password in all apps in kde" <-- could you provide a clearer description please? |
| 15:44.38 | ccherrett | aseigo: when propted for a password in kde for root. It rejects the password given |
| 15:44.58 | benJIman | ccherrett: What distro are you using? |
| 15:45.06 | ccherrett | benJIman: gentoo |
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| 15:45.16 | aseigo | ccherrett: are you using sudo for root access or traditional su? |
| 15:45.20 | benJIman | ccherrett: By default kdesu uses sudo, could be problem there. |
| 15:45.29 | benJIman | ccherrett: open ~/.kde/share/config/kdesurc |
| 15:45.33 | ccherrett | aseigo: su |
| 15:45.37 | benJIman | And put the following lines: |
| 15:45.40 | benJIman | [super-user-command] |
| 15:45.40 | benJIman | super-user-command=su |
| 15:45.45 | benJIman | Save it and try again |
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| 15:48.13 | ccherrett | benJIman: that file did not exist by default |
| 15:48.17 | ccherrett | so I created it |
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| 15:48.47 | ccherrett | there was a kdedrc |
| 15:48.52 | benJIman | Did it make a difference? |
| 15:49.07 | ccherrett | benJIman: trying now |
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| 15:50.37 | ccherrett | benJIman: same problem |
| 15:50.52 | ccherrett | benJIman: it tells me permission denied |
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| 15:50.55 | benJIman | ccherrett: Can you use su in a terminal ok? |
| 15:51.08 | ccherrett | benJIman: no |
| 15:51.16 | benJIman | ccherrett: Then why do you expect kdesu to work? |
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| 15:51.22 | ccherrett | benJIman: not unless the wm is down |
| 15:51.35 | benJIman | What do you mean? |
| 15:51.40 | ccherrett | benJIman: I did not suggest that :) |
| 15:51.53 | benJIman | ccherrett: I don't understand. |
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| 15:51.59 | ccherrett | benJIman: if I boot init 3 I can loggin with that password |
| 15:52.23 | ccherrett | benJIman: in kde with any app that needs a password it won't work |
| 15:52.39 | benJIman | ccherrett: That password with what username? |
| 15:52.42 | ccherrett | benJIman: very strange |
| 15:53.08 | ccherrett | benJIman: su root same thing |
| 15:53.25 | benJIman | ccherrett: Open a konsole, type "su" |
| 15:53.29 | benJIman | does it then accept the password? |
| 15:53.31 | test_ | hello can some one help me about gnome? |
| 15:53.37 | ccherrett | benJIman: no |
| 15:53.45 | pinotree | test_: no |
| 15:53.52 | benJIman | ccherrett: When you go to init 3 do you use that password with the username root, or your own username? |
| 15:53.56 | pinotree | there's #gnome for that |
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| 15:54.20 | test_ | pinotree please help i just want to install gnome right |
| 15:54.21 | ccherrett | benJIman: I give login name root and then pass |
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| 15:54.31 | anisfarhana | greetings |
| 15:54.31 | pinotree | test_: #gnome |
| 15:54.34 | benJIman | ccherrett: And it accepts it? |
| 15:54.35 | test_ | thanks |
| 15:54.39 | ccherrett | benJIman: yes |
| 15:54.42 | anisfarhana | i have problem with my keyboards here in fedora 7 , i can't use my usb keyboard from Apple (tactile pro) and also i can't use my standard ps2 keyboard..what should i do ? |
| 15:54.46 | benJIman | ccherrett: In init 3, if you login as your own user, and then use su does it work? |
| 15:54.48 | ccherrett | benJIman: I can ssh to the machine fine |
| 15:55.04 | anisfarhana | currently on kde 3.5.7 |
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| 15:55.28 | ccherrett | benJIman: testing |
| 15:55.31 | benJIman | ccherrett: In any case it sounds like you've broken your su, and need to seek help in your distro channel, it's not a KDE problem. |
| 15:55.44 | ccherrett | benJIman: thanks will do |
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| 16:18.17 | Hub441 | hi! |
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| 16:19.54 | Hub441 | i think i just found a bug in khtml/konqueror: crashes when using "function closeit(){ window.close() };document.onmousedown = closeit;" |
| 16:20.13 | Hub441 | works fine as long as you just klickt with the left mousebutton into that field |
| 16:20.23 | Hub441 | (popup contains a image) |
| 16:21.29 | Jucato | er.. #khtml |
| 16:21.31 | Hub441 | thx |
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| 16:21.56 | amustafa70 | Hi All, I need some help with X11Forwarding. I have a FC7 PC, trying to ssh into a remote server and then after exporting my DISPLAY to my VPN IP on PC, I cannot run xterm for example. Where should I look for any logs? |
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| 16:28.08 | anisfarhana | why suddenly i can't use my keyboard in kde ?? |
| 16:28.30 | anisfarhana | i have no problem using my keyboard in gnome or windows |
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| 16:30.49 | manikfox | in general or... ? |
| 16:30.57 | manikfox | it could be the windows manager is f'ed up |
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| 16:31.05 | manikfox | I get that when trying to run beryl |
| 16:31.08 | anisfarhana | in general ? what do u mean by general ? |
| 16:31.14 | lxnay | what's happening to websvn.kde.org ? |
| 16:31.21 | anisfarhana | no , i touch nothing manikfox |
| 16:31.23 | manikfox | like your keyboard NEVER works... or doesn't work sometimes? |
| 16:31.28 | anisfarhana | it suddently won't work |
| 16:31.44 | manikfox | yeah, sounds like a windows manager thing |
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| 16:31.48 | anisfarhana | manikfox: both my keyboard works in kde before |
| 16:31.55 | anisfarhana | manikfox: usb and ps2 |
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| 16:32.39 | manikfox | hmm, try updating the packages, or mayber resort back to an older version, i think its kxb*something |
| 16:32.42 | anisfarhana | manikfox: ah before this kde screwed up my user account , now seem like it want to screw up my window manager ?? |
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| 16:33.11 | anisfarhana | manikfox: what package do i need to update ? |
| 16:33.12 | manikfox | anisfarhana: usually when my keyboard didn't work, it was because kwin wasn't working properly |
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| 16:33.40 | manikfox | anisfarhana: kxkb |
| 16:33.53 | anisfarhana | manikfox: maybe i can yum update kxkb ? |
| 16:34.04 | anisfarhana | i hate GNOME sigh |
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| 16:35.10 | manikfox | anisfarhana: just run "yum update", should update your whole fedora installation, and probably fix the problem |
| 16:36.04 | anisfarhana | manikfox: running yum update now... |
| 16:36.10 | anisfarhana | manikfox: can u tell me why it happened ? |
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| 16:36.56 | manikfox | anisfarhana: its probably just a bug, one package screws with another |
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| 16:38.25 | anisfarhana | manikfox: update 37 packages now |
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| 16:40.30 | anisfarhana | manikfox: what happens if after yum update , it still wont work ? |
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| 16:41.37 | manikfox | anisfarhana: try a reboot, and if that doesn't work, I'm not sure how to resort back to old packages in fedora, but look up how and resort to an old kxkb package |
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| 17:02.38 | Beket_ | Hello people! I tried KDE 4.0BETA2 but I couldn't start any application, because there wasn't a K Menu at all. What am I missing ? Thanks! |
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| 17:09.36 | anisfarhana | manikfox: doesn't work :( |
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| 17:14.12 | manikfox | anisfarhana: gone to class, I'll think about it and get back to you |
| 17:14.24 | anisfarhana | manikfox: thx |
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| 17:17.20 | zvis | ??? |
| 17:17.26 | zvis | hayy |
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| 17:17.42 | zvis | someone is here |
| 17:17.56 | pinotree | if you ask, yes |
| 17:17.57 | zvis | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:18.08 | zvis | and i need som help |
| 17:18.28 | pinotree | then #sabayon |
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| 17:19.05 | zvis | how can i update sabayon mini |
| 17:19.07 | zvis | ver |
| 17:19.09 | zvis | ?? |
| 17:19.19 | pinotree | zvis: #sabayon |
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| 17:19.41 | zvis | yes |
| 17:21.01 | zvis | do you can help me to change the bit rate for wirless |
| 17:21.10 | pinotree | #sabayon as well |
| 17:21.25 | zvis | i dont understand u |
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| 17:22.23 | logixoul | link of the day -> http://linux.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=04/08/27/1335219 "...The next version of KDE, which will either be called 3.4 or 4..." |
| 17:22.24 | logixoul | :) |
| 17:22.32 | logixoul | from 2004 |
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| 17:23.08 | anisfarhana | what should i do to "renew" my profile in kde ? |
| 17:23.12 | Beket_ | logixoul, heheheh, where the heck did you dig that ? :) |
| 17:23.28 | logixoul | anisfarhana: mv ~/.kde .kde~ |
| 17:23.49 | anisfarhana | logixoul: thanks |
| 17:23.51 | anisfarhana | bbl |
| 17:23.55 | logixoul | Beket_: http://aseigo.bddf.ca/cms/1219 |
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| 17:24.58 | aseigo | logixoul: yeah, there was a plan to skip 3.4 and go straight to 4. due to qt4 taking so long that never happened |
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| 17:25.44 | logixoul | aseigo: ah |
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| 17:27.24 | anisfarhana | logixoul: mv: cannot move `/root/.kde' to a subdirectory of itself, `.kde~' |
| 17:27.45 | logixoul | anisfarhana: mv ~/.kde/ ~/.kde~/ |
| 17:28.20 | anisfarhana | logixoul: i think window manager on my current user is screwed up |
| 17:28.28 | anisfarhana | logixoul: both keyboard usb / ps2 doesn't work |
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| 17:43.50 | aantipop | i got a thin blue line around all non-fullscreen windows. i checked every thing in color-scheme, theres no blue, also nothing custom blue in my style or decoration |
| 17:43.59 | aantipop | any idea where's the blue line from ? |
| 17:44.05 | aantipop | it really doesnt match to my green theme |
| 17:44.12 | logixoul | aantipop: try running `kwin --replace` |
| 17:44.18 | aantipop | ah ok |
| 17:44.49 | aantipop | doesnt change it |
| 17:44.54 | logixoul | aantipop: try changing your windeco in kcontrol->appearance->window decoration |
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| 17:45.31 | aantipop | ah okay, it comes from the crystal theme |
| 17:45.37 | aantipop | but there is nothing set to blue |
| 17:45.49 | aantipop | oh there is |
| 17:45.59 | aantipop | thanks you pointed me to the rifght thing |
| 17:46.04 | logixoul | np |
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| 17:47.26 | aantipop | another question: is it possible to remove 1 of the 2 bookmark/information frames in dolphin ? |
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| 17:47.44 | logixoul | check the view menu |
| 17:48.02 | aantipop | ..thanks |
| 17:48.08 | logixoul | np |
| 17:48.19 | aantipop | should have a better look before askin next time |
| 17:48.27 | logixoul | yeah |
| 17:48.53 | anisfarhana | iskk , kde killing me right now :/ |
| 17:49.11 | logixoul | strike back: `killall kded`! |
| 17:49.26 | anisfarhana | logixoul: is that valid command ? |
| 17:49.37 | anisfarhana | i think i have to renew/replace my window manager back |
| 17:49.50 | anisfarhana | keyboard doesn't function on splash screen login to kde |
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| 17:52.35 | anisfarhana | logixoul: how about restart back the gdm ? |
| 17:52.47 | logixoul | what? |
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| 17:58.29 | kelvie_ | How do you specify a domain when accessing a windows SMB share from konqueror? |
| 17:58.40 | kelvie_ | konqueror just asks for the username and password.. |
| 17:59.36 | kelvie_ | ah never mind I found it |
| 17:59.40 | kelvie_ | you prefix the username with domain\ |
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| 18:09.52 | windowsBSD | how can i swich tasks in Enlightenment? |
| 18:10.50 | aseigo | windowsBSD: this is probably the wrong channel for that question |
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| 18:11.14 | logixoul | windowsBSD: yeah...ask in #e |
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| 18:12.50 | MinceR | windowsBSD: first, you need to switch to KDE, then you can use the window list menu or the window list applet or alt+tab. >:) |
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| 18:13.34 | windowsBSD | kde is heavy |
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| 18:13.52 | MinceR | enlightenment is slow. :> |
| 18:13.56 | windowsBSD | no |
| 18:14.04 | MinceR | no u! |
| 18:14.14 | windowsBSD | it is faster in my comp then kde |
| 18:14.32 | windowsBSD | + kde is buggy in freebsd |
| 18:14.49 | MinceR | try it in windows then. :> |
| 18:15.08 | MinceR | or you could switch to linux :> |
| 18:16.01 | windowsBSD | lwindows is better than linux |
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| 18:17.35 | MinceR | what is lwindows? |
| 18:17.41 | windowsBSD | windows |
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| 18:17.52 | MinceR | very tricky. |
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| 18:18.25 | MinceR | and why do you hang out in #kde if you're only interested in enlightenment? |
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| 18:20.08 | windowsBSD | there are more people than in #e |
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| 18:20.22 | logixoul | sigh |
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| 18:25.01 | Rasi | i have unchecked the disable-box but it still doesnt do anything |
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| 18:39.38 | n2Ob | hi, how do i use kde-styles in qt apps when not running kde? |
| 18:39.59 | n2Ob | tuxcards for example |
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| 18:40.51 | thiago_home | run qtconfig |
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| 18:42.48 | n2Ob | it doesn't show kde-styles, something need to be loaded? |
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| 18:43.34 | thiago_home | no |
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| 18:43.44 | vlt | Hello. How can I run a program like kmail in another language? I tried `LANG=C kmail` but that didn't work. Any idea? |
| 18:43.58 | thiago_home | KDE_LANG=en kmail |
| 18:43.59 | annma_ | KDE_LANG= |
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| 18:44.29 | vlt | thiago_home, annma_: Thank you. |
| 18:44.32 | thiago_home | n2Ob: KDE styles are installed in the Qt plugin dir. |
| 18:45.01 | n2Ob | thiago_home, ok thanks |
| 18:45.21 | vlt | thiago_home, annma_: Mmh, it's still ignored. |
| 18:45.47 | thiago_home | vlt: it must be a language you have installed in KDE |
| 18:45.51 | thiago_home | "C" isn't one |
| 18:46.06 | annma_ | you need l10n package for the language |
| 18:46.09 | vlt | thiago_home: I tried your "en" example |
| 18:46.13 | annma_ | languiage is an ISO code |
| 18:46.21 | logixoul | vlt: should be en_US |
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| 18:46.31 | annma_ | you are in what language presently vlt |
| 18:46.50 | thiago_home | vlt: en_US |
| 18:46.51 | vlt | en_US works. |
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| 18:49.27 | vlt | I received a gpg encrypted mail but kmail refuses to decrypt it: "Reason: Crypto plug-in "openpgp" could not decrypt the data." When I save the plain text and run `gpg textfile` (as the same user) I can decrypt it. What's wrong here? |
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| 18:55.09 | bryan_ | rawr |
| 18:55.15 | jwest | yarr |
| 18:55.17 | vlt | Do I have to edit the cryptography settings to enable _de_crypting of emails in kmail? |
| 18:55.46 | thiago_home | vlt: KMail automatically asks you for the password if it's a PGP/inline email |
| 18:55.56 | thiago_home | if it's PGP/MIME, it requires gpg-agent to be running |
| 18:55.59 | jwest | for the most part cryptology in kmail works good. evolution sucks ass |
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| 18:57.46 | bryan_ | at least everything in gnome works |
| 18:57.58 | bryan_ | simple is best - who needs advanced options :P |
| 18:58.00 | jwest | bryan_: u a simple man? |
| 18:58.26 | jwest | what fun is using linux if you can't tweak the heck outta it |
| 18:59.07 | jwest | bryan_: ever try using serpentine to rip an audio cd into mp3? |
| 18:59.28 | jwest | kaudiocreator ftw! |
| 18:59.30 | MinceR | bryan_: i do. |
| 18:59.43 | aseigo | bryan_: the conversation has been twisted into a discussion about largely mythical "advanced options" |
| 18:59.53 | vlt | thiago_home: The mail header says: 'Content-Type: multipart/encrypted; ... protocol="application/pgp-encrypted" ... User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7' and the header of the message part: 'Content-Type: application/octet-stream ... Content-Disposition: inline; filename="msg.asc"' |
| 19:00.20 | aseigo | bryan_: which is pretty lame since that's not really the issue. it's a nice way for those who use relatively featureless apps to turn a discussion partly into a straw man |
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| 19:00.29 | thiago_home | vlt: it's OpenPGP/MIME. |
| 19:00.30 | jwest | aseigo: are there advanced options in gnome? |
| 19:00.39 | aseigo | bryan_: the real issue is how simple can you make something before it is no longer useful for a general audience |
| 19:00.43 | MinceR | are there options in gnome? |
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| 19:00.51 | aseigo | bryan_: general audience being the key phrase here. |
| 19:01.12 | jwest | however i will say this ... my gnome desktop seems more stable |
| 19:01.19 | jwest | maybe that's because i tweak kde more |
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| 19:01.33 | jwest | i'd still like to figure out what's going on with sabayons crap |
| 19:01.40 | bryan_ | all i know is KDE under sabayon 3.4e is unstable as hell |
| 19:01.43 | aseigo | bryan_: the rest of the strawman-set-up tends to go something like this "but $GROUP_OF_USERS only needs..." where $GROUP_OF_USERS is sometimes "me" and sometimes larger but almost never the general human population |
| 19:01.45 | bryan_ | won't save settings |
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| 19:01.59 | aseigo | bryan_: that would be a sabayon issue. kde is very solid software. |
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| 19:02.37 | jwest | yeah ... i'm seeing problems with sabayon as well |
| 19:02.43 | jwest | the kicker applets jumping onto teh desktop |
| 19:02.47 | aseigo | bryan_: i understand it can be hard to figure out where to point a finger with all the layers between source and binaries on your machine... but yeah ... |
| 19:02.47 | jwest | sucks |
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| 19:03.13 | jwest | bryan_: you new to linux? |
| 19:03.19 | bryan_ | relatively |
| 19:03.33 | jwest | u used amarok? |
| 19:03.41 | bryan_ | jwest yes |
| 19:03.45 | jwest | amrok is what keeps me using kde |
| 19:04.05 | jwest | otherwise it would prob be flux for me |
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| 19:04.18 | jwest | bryan_: if you like simple, you should try fluxbox |
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| 19:04.40 | logixoul | no: ratpoison. |
| 19:04.41 | logixoul | ;) |
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| 19:05.35 | piggz | does anyone know where kde stores the browser to be used for opening links?...for some reason mine thinks it should use firefox instead of konqueror |
| 19:05.36 | jwest | ratpoison? |
| 19:06.01 | logixoul | piggz: kcontrol->kde components->default apps |
| 19:06.05 | jwest | yep |
| 19:06.11 | logixoul | jwest: the simplest window manager. |
| 19:06.16 | jwest | s/default apps/component chooser |
| 19:06.19 | jwest | ^^ for me |
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| 19:06.30 | jwest | ratpoison is a WM? |
| 19:06.36 | jwest | nvr heard of it |
| 19:06.51 | piggz | logixoul: yes, i found that, but it is still set to default, so im wondering why its defaulting to firefox |
| 19:07.25 | jwest | piggz: u using kmail? |
| 19:07.31 | jwest | piggz: is that where you're launching from? |
| 19:07.41 | jwest | piggz: cause i think kmail has a separate setting |
| 19:07.57 | logixoul | piggz: to "default"? |
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| 19:08.15 | piggz | jwest: konversation actually, but kfmclient/krun dialog also launches firefox for urls |
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| 19:08.35 | jwest | ahh |
| 19:08.58 | logixoul | piggz: btw: Konversation has the option to use a browser different from the one you set in kcontrol |
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| 19:10.22 | Rasi | i really wonder why konversation is not kde's standard irc client |
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| 19:11.05 | Rasi | at least ksirc is still listed as default irc client |
| 19:11.23 | logixoul | Rasi: first of all, because KDE already has one (kopete, not so great), and there's no consensus that Konversation is really generally better |
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| 19:11.42 | logixoul | Rasi: also, the Konversation devs don't want Konvi to ship with KDE |
| 19:12.05 | logixoul | I think it's because they like the freedom of release schedules provided by the current extragear residence |
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| 19:12.18 | Rasi | makes sense |
| 19:12.20 | funkyou | hi |
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| 19:13.07 | funkyou | has someone experienced this too and knows how to solve it?: http://www.i-imagehost.com/uploads/fd69cd190c.jpg |
| 19:13.29 | VladimirBG | hi, I need some help with seting up keyboard shortcuts under KDE(some like gnome) |
| 19:13.48 | VladimirBG | I've got this laptop with media controls on front |
| 19:13.59 | annma | funkyou: is this KDE? |
| 19:14.20 | funkyou | annma: yes, 3.5.7 |
| 19:14.21 | VladimirBG | but KDE doesn't recognize them when I try to tie them to volume control for ex. |
| 19:14.41 | logixoul | VladimirBG: otivash v kcontrol->regional&accessibility->keyboard layout i izbirash podhodyasht keyboard model |
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| 19:14.46 | logixoul | VladimirBG: sled tova shte raboti ;) |
| 19:14.50 | annma | funkyou: and you upgraded or new install? |
| 19:15.03 | VladimirBG | logixoul: english please |
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| 19:15.19 | logixoul | bleh... ok |
| 19:15.29 | VladimirBG | logixoul: BG stands for Belgrade(Serbia) |
| 19:15.36 | vlt | thiago_home: How to start gpg-agent? |
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| 19:16.01 | logixoul | VladimirBG: haha. ok. go to kcontrol->regional&accessibility->keyboard layout and choose the right keyboard model. |
| 19:16.19 | logixoul | VladimirBG: then the keys will be recognized |
| 19:16.42 | logixoul | VladimirBG: if you don't find yours in there, try some with a similar name |
| 19:16.58 | VladimirBG | logixoul: THANKS!!!! :D |
| 19:17.01 | funkyou | annma: its from my own packages. so far i have rebuild kdebase, kdelibs and qt (with and without patches) but no solution... i think this came with an upgrade of xorg but i dont know exaclty until now |
| 19:17.05 | logixoul | VladimirBG: np |
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| 19:17.25 | annma | funkyou: well we cannot help you then |
| 19:17.25 | VladimirBG | logixoul: I spent 4 hours trying to figure this out... |
| 19:17.34 | logixoul | heh |
| 19:17.51 | annma | funkyou: can you try GNOME or fluxbox or something else? |
| 19:18.21 | logixoul | night all |
| 19:19.24 | funkyou | annma: its happening with the icons on the desktop and in konqueror, but i can try vanilla kde packages (archlinux here) |
| 19:19.32 | funkyou | installing gnome now to test |
| 19:19.52 | annma | so you'll know if it xorg as a start |
| 19:20.23 | funkyou | eh, i meant i install vanilla kde _and_ gnome now :) brb |
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| 19:42.32 | djdarkman | hy, how can I remove a file from a kdevelop project? |
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| 20:21.55 | petoone | ) |
| 20:22.05 | itguru | does kde still have fish support |
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| 20:22.36 | Armand | nah, only mammels. |
| 20:23.00 | brot | itguru: it should have it, but its broken (at last, for me.) |
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| 20:24.21 | bbeck__ | What's the point of split view in Konsole 1.9.2, each side appear so be a mirror of the other. It would be nice if they were independent, then I could have multiple logs visible. Is the mirror thing a bug? |
| 20:25.07 | Skrot- | No commit digest today? |
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| 20:35.21 | itguru | brot thanks for the tip :( |
| 20:36.38 | brot | no problem :/ |
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| 20:41.34 | Armand | Is there an option in KDE to stop programs stealing focus? |
| 20:41.54 | pinotree | yes |
| 20:42.02 | Armand | really starting to P*%$ me off.. |
| 20:42.09 | Armand | where? |
| 20:42.10 | Armand | :) |
| 20:42.46 | pinotree | kde control center -> desktop -> window behaviour -> advanced -> focus stealing prevention |
| 20:42.52 | Armand | thanks. :) |
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| 20:58.26 | fdoving | is there a way to set the text color of disabled menu items? (the greyed/shaded ones) |
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| 20:59.28 | Kebianizao | Hello |
| 20:59.47 | soldee | hi |
| 20:59.57 | Kebianizao | has anyone experienced having a cursor (like the editing cursor) on konqueror as a web browser? |
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| 21:01.07 | soldee | having a cursor? |
| 21:01.12 | soldee | what do you mean |
| 21:01.38 | Kebianizao | like the cursor on kwrite or the cursor for filling in forms in the place of regular text |
| 21:01.48 | Kebianizao | I'm unable to get a screenshot, I'm sorry |
| 21:02.36 | Kebianizao | imagine you can edit the web page text, like that |
| 21:02.36 | soldee | a text cursor |
| 21:02.36 | SmatZ | Kebianizao: I think I did, maybe it was in Firefox... |
| 21:02.36 | Kebianizao | but only that you can't actually do it |
| 21:02.37 | Kebianizao | exactly |
| 21:02.38 | MinceR | Kebianizao: iirc it's an accessibility feature, but i don't know if i've seen it in konqueror or only in opera and firefox |
| 21:02.43 | Kebianizao | SmatZ: I'm talking about konqueror, I know about firefox, but I think this wasn't popssible on konqui |
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| 21:03.02 | Kebianizao | MinceR: any idea how to turn it off |
| 21:03.03 | Kebianizao | ? |
| 21:03.06 | MinceR | nope |
| 21:03.12 | MinceR | i turned it on by accident |
| 21:04.31 | Kebianizao | MinceR: thanks |
| 21:04.38 | MinceR | np |
| 21:04.51 | Kebianizao | I wonder how a) did I turn it on and b) how should I turn it off |
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| 21:14.06 | litb | no commit digest this week? |
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| 21:14.38 | Skrot- | Not yet anyway |
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| 21:21.11 | Kebianizao | I'll do that |
| 21:21.12 | Kebianizao | thanks |
| 21:21.15 | Kebianizao | see you ;) |
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| 21:25.08 | gnoob | How come in Kopete I can not press "Shift Enter" to create a new line? |
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| 21:26.54 | pinotree | Ctrl+Enter? |
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| 21:27.17 | litb | wow |
| 21:27.19 | litb | http://www.nuno-icons.com/images/estilo/image2476.png |
| 21:27.25 | litb | is that how it looks at the moment? |
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| 21:28.06 | litb | oh, i see. it is just a mock up |
| 21:28.07 | Roberth_ | litb: i think they are demonstrating plasmas capabilities |
| 21:29.14 | gnoob | Oh, Ctrl-Enter, a little unusual, if you ask me, but it works. |
| 21:29.17 | gnoob | thanks pinotree |
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| 21:50.26 | tafsen | What's the best way to get sound in KDE? ALSA? |
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| 21:51.27 | Roberth_ | tafsen: depend on which os you use |
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| 21:52.15 | tafsen | Roberth_: Arch linux |
| 21:52.27 | Roberth_ | tafsen: alsa |
| 21:52.32 | tafsen | Thanks |
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| 21:59.02 | gnoob | Is there a configuration option to tell kopete to always "Auto Check Spelling" |
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| 22:02.05 | eidolon | hi folks, looking for a place to ask questions about KMail. it appears to be checking all of my 'subscribed' imap folders for new messages on every refresh. this is taking forever, but i can't tell how to configure my identiies or accounts to say "Do not check subfolders for new messages' without clicking on every subfolder and sayign "don't check", which doesnt' seem right. |
| 22:02.21 | eidolon | this is KDE 3.5.6 on Ubuntu Feisty. |
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| 22:08.46 | craig | looking for where add and remove packages is |
| 22:09.50 | eidolon | depends on the distribution you're using. |
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| 22:10.00 | eidolon | for ubuntu / debian based distros, use synaptic. |
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| 22:15.45 | graft | is there a good solution to the paste weirdness in KRDC? |
| 22:17.09 | GraveDigger | :) |
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| 22:22.21 | Shirakawasuna | graft: paste weirdness? |
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| 22:55.16 | litb | commit-digest! |
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| 23:00.44 | ErkiDerLoony | Hi! I have this nice kicker applet which shows my storage media. The menu lists "Burn DVD with K3B" but not "Play with VLC". How can I add some entry to this menu? |
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| 23:07.41 | jago_ | is there an eq in kde |
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| 23:20.09 | DrGrov | Hi there! |
| 23:20.33 | DrGrov | Perhaps this is the place to ask about Kopete related things or is there a special place for those kind of questions here on IRC? |
| 23:21.30 | grepper | <PROTECTED> |
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| 23:21.50 | DrGrov | grepper: thanks. i found #kopete :) |
| 23:22.05 | DrGrov | i won't write more here then. thanks for the help |
| 23:22.26 | grepper | np |
| 23:22.46 | DrGrov | grepper: what is new in the KDE world? :) |
| 23:23.00 | DrGrov | damn KDE is the best DE. No question about it. ;-) |
| 23:23.12 | grepper | have fun, gotta go out :) |
| 23:23.31 | DrGrov | sure, thanks grepper |
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| 23:40.07 | DrGrov | everyone seems to be sleeping over at #kopete, how about here? |
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| 23:46.25 | tafsen_ | What's the most acurate battery displayer for KDE? |
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| 23:49.46 | d347hm4n | how do you make the k-menu transparent? |
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| 23:55.45 | aseigo | tafsen_: the guidance power manager stuff seems to be the best these days (and not just for accuracy) |
| 23:56.04 | aseigo | d347hm4n: go into the styles control panel, go to the effects tab and turn on translucent menus |
| 23:57.28 | tafsen_ | aseigo: Is that what's standard in kde? |
| 23:58.04 | Sho_ | tafsen_: No, but it's available from extragear |
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