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| 00:22.17 | FreshPrince | bline, here? |
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| 00:56.02 | nathan | what's the most common pdf viewing program for kde |
| 00:56.19 | Simkin | konqueror/kpdf |
| 00:56.48 | nathan | konqueror asks me what I want to open it with |
| 00:57.08 | nathan | and can't find kpdf |
| 00:57.13 | nathan | lemme see about installing it |
| 00:57.41 | nathan | there we go it works now |
| 00:57.44 | nathan | thanks! |
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| 01:18.06 | PeterFA | Help! The key-board shortcuts that control amaroK such as Tux-c for pause or Tux-v for stop no longer work! |
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| 01:20.18 | BigDaddy | Hey all, KDE newbie here. I am trying to add anything to the System Guard applet. How is this done? |
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| 01:22.20 | zenix | Hi, anyone know how to remotely add a feed to Akgregator? I see a DCOP function but don't know how to properly call it. 'dcop akregator AkregatorIface addFeedsToGroup "http://aliendice.com/aliendice.xml" "All Feeds"' returns "Not enough arguments (expected 2, got 2)." (which is confusing anyways) The function detail is as so: void addFeedsToGroup(QStringList,QString) |
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| 01:27.20 | zenix | Anyone know how to remotely add a feed to Akgregator? |
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| 01:51.54 | Mr_Bunny_ | hello, I'm running debian and I'd like to switch to kde. I've run apt-get kde but that doesn't seem to have done everything it needs to. |
| 01:53.34 | Mr_Bunny_ | oh nvm |
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| 02:07.04 | Romina | hi |
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| 02:50.09 | Ramdrive | kde-3.5.8 is freezed to release? |
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| 03:19.47 | Myrth[home] | hi, is it a bug in konqueror: on http://www.opensource.org/licenses/osl-3.0.php it shows in <ol> 6. after 1. ? |
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| 03:25.46 | Myrth[home] | also, all the programs besides ones from kde (kopete for example) open firefox for links. kopete opens them in konqueror. where do i configure it to use firefox? |
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| 03:32.15 | xlotlu | Myrth[home]: kcmshell componentchooser |
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| 03:32.34 | Myrth[home] | xlotlu: thanks |
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| 03:40.03 | sabayonlive-2416 | is it possible to have 20 cd rom drives on one system? |
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| 03:41.56 | GullyFoyle | is there an extension to make URLs clickable in Konsole? |
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| 03:53.55 | texnofobix | does anyone else have problems with kmail and dovecot imap? |
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| 04:38.50 | salmenara | hello |
| 04:39.01 | salmenara | I am having some problems with noatun |
| 04:39.31 | salmenara | whenever I try to play a song, it copies it to /home/user |
| 04:39.44 | salmenara | how can I disable this behaviour? |
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| 04:41.12 | ^_uhoh | Is it necessary to have kde-base/arts installed if using KDE or is ALSA good enough? |
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| 04:52.21 | hagabaka | is this page messed up in konqueror for anyone else? http://allacrost.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Coding_Needs the HTML validates, not CSS, but i'm not sure if that's the cause |
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| 04:52.57 | kristjan_ | hagabaka: messed up here |
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| 04:53.07 | flaccid | is there a final release date for kde4 yet? |
| 04:55.44 | swanfl | subject to change of course, but I hear December |
| 04:55.58 | flaccid | which date |
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| 04:56.20 | swanfl | look at kde.org for the calendar |
| 04:56.48 | flaccid | hmmm can't find a calendar |
| 04:57.01 | swanfl | hang on let me see if I can find it |
| 04:57.10 | flaccid | thanks mate |
| 04:57.42 | kristjan_ | flaccid: offtopic - why do people say "heard" if they most probably "read"? |
| 04:58.13 | flaccid | because they are human |
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| 04:58.32 | kristjan_ | haha, nice reason |
| 04:58.47 | timesux | hello, what is the purpose of this chatroom? i'm a noob, sorry. |
| 04:59.08 | kristjan_ | timesux: to get kde related info |
| 04:59.18 | kristjan_ | timesux: sort of google for lazy people |
| 04:59.33 | timesux | i see. what is kde an acronym for? |
| 04:59.43 | kristjan_ | timesux: it's then you are too lazy to search for an answer you come here to ask |
| 05:00.02 | timesux | well that's me, lazy, haha |
| 05:00.12 | kristjan_ | timesux: kde - k stands for "a letter after l", de stands for desktop environment |
| 05:00.25 | kristjan_ | no, before |
| 05:00.29 | ubunturos | timesux: KDE stands for the best Desktop any Linux platform - that what it stands for ;) :) |
| 05:00.37 | swanfl | http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.0_Release_Schedule |
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| 05:00.52 | flaccid | a lot of people have this unrealistic expectation that humans don't make mistakes and somehow confirm to what is theoretically correct |
| 05:01.05 | flaccid | confirm=conform |
| 05:01.26 | timesux | well thanks. would you be able to tell me if my nvidia geforce2 mx/mx 400 vid card will work w/desktop accel? |
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| 05:01.47 | kristjan_ | timesux: what kind of accel are we talking about? |
| 05:01.52 | kristjan_ | timesux: compiz? |
| 05:01.57 | timesux | yeah |
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| 05:02.23 | kristjan_ | timesux: try asking in #compiz-fusion |
| 05:02.32 | timesux | okay, thanks |
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| 05:52.55 | usuario_ | hey i am new at this |
| 05:53.06 | usuario_ | can anyone help? |
| 05:53.12 | saurabh | okay |
| 05:53.19 | saurabh | wats ur problem? |
| 05:53.39 | usuario_ | it s not actaully a problem |
| 05:53.44 | saurabh | so |
| 05:53.46 | usuario_ | i want to know how this works |
| 05:53.51 | saurabh | wat? |
| 05:54.06 | usuario_ | never mind |
| 05:54.13 | saurabh | go on |
| 05:54.24 | saurabh | wat do u want? |
| 05:54.35 | usuario_ | is the only chat here? |
| 05:54.42 | usuario_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:54.54 | saurabh | have u come here for chatting? |
| 05:55.10 | saurabh | wat kind of channels u want? |
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| 05:56.56 | usuario_ | what is available? |
| 05:57.11 | usuario_ | or can you guidem em on how to get thereor where to look? |
| 06:00.02 | saurabh | just type /join #fedora-meeting |
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| 06:23.37 | kronic | anyone know if its possible to have sudo used rather then su for "root orientated" tasks |
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| 06:29.55 | OpenSorce | Anybody here use kdetv? |
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| 07:07.08 | mauriciooo | Somebody can help me? |
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| 07:08.17 | mauriciooo | im tryingo to write the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file... but it doesn't save the changes |
| 07:08.46 | olegfink | do you have anough privileges to write to this file? |
| 07:08.50 | mauriciooo | yes |
| 07:08.56 | olegfink | *enough |
| 07:08.56 | mauriciooo | im with root pass |
| 07:09.16 | olegfink | then what's the error you get? |
| 07:09.32 | mauriciooo | i restart the x-server but it doesnt save the changes |
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| 07:09.48 | mauriciooo | the xorg.con file it's the oldest one |
| 07:10.27 | mauriciooo | i'm put the line mode "1024x800" but it dissapears when i restart the x-server |
| 07:10.41 | olegfink | interesting |
| 07:10.49 | olegfink | how do you start your X? |
| 07:11.04 | olegfink | don't you start some sort of autoconfigurator as well? |
| 07:11.21 | mauriciooo | mm... no as i know |
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| 07:12.12 | olegfink | so, how do you start it? startx? |
| 07:12.27 | mauriciooo | normal... log in... in fedora |
| 07:12.29 | mauriciooo | 7 |
| 07:13.22 | mauriciooo | there's an optinon... for restart the x-server, but i don't if it rewrites the xorg.conf file |
| 07:13.49 | olegfink | what about logging in in text mode and then running startx? |
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| 07:16.19 | mauriciooo | mmm... i'll try it.. im new in this... and i tried to read all the stuff about x.server... it's hard |
| 07:16.25 | mauriciooo | thanx olegfink |
| 07:16.48 | olegfink | I would always suspect fedora doing something nasty when you use its "auto" features |
| 07:18.39 | mauriciooo | yeah.. if there is an "autoconfiguration" think... i would like to know, this "auto" makes things worst |
| 07:19.07 | mauriciooo | i think... i'll try ubuntu, somebody told me that is the "easiest" OS |
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| 07:19.59 | mauriciooo | i'm a noob in this stuff... i always used windows.. and i'm trying this "new world" xD |
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| 07:47.48 | luca | hi everyone |
| 07:48.30 | luca | I would like to add a little hack to knetworkmanager but I have no idea of how to program...can someone help me out please? |
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| 08:37.33 | mdeanda | what hack do you wanna add luca? |
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| 08:39.04 | luca | I want to make sure that knetworkmanager switches to offline mode and then back to online mode |
| 08:39.31 | mdeanda | on kubuntu, when i log out of kde (or press the power button) i get a menu allowing me to shutdown, reboot, hibernate, suspend, log out, on slackware, i get a slightly different menu, less items. how do they add those extra items in kubuntu? |
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| 08:40.38 | mdeanda | luca: like when you select 'online mode', you want it to actually go to offline, then online? |
| 08:41.50 | luca | not always |
| 08:42.02 | luca | i want it to do it after suspension |
| 08:42.11 | luca | and automsatically :) |
| 08:42.23 | luca | (version 0.2) |
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| 08:42.50 | mdeanda | ahh ic. well you said you haven't programmed before? have you buiild the kde packages yourself before? |
| 08:43.08 | mdeanda | well maybe not packages, but just buiilt kde programs before? |
| 08:43.33 | luca | sometimes |
| 08:43.47 | luca | just configure make make install though |
| 08:43.59 | mdeanda | well that's a start.. |
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| 08:44.16 | luca | hope so ;) |
| 08:44.21 | mdeanda | if you can get the sources to the program.. and buiild them.. and run it.. then you can start making changes to it |
| 08:44.36 | luca | i have the source for that |
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| 08:44.41 | mdeanda | it would be good to be able to buiild them first.. so you know it works before you get started |
| 08:44.48 | luca | ok |
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| 08:45.00 | luca | ho would i know the language used? |
| 08:45.07 | mdeanda | its c++. |
| 08:45.13 | luca | ok :) |
| 08:45.18 | mdeanda | (or small chance that its python/ruby) |
| 08:46.12 | mdeanda | the easiest way for me to get started is to find the file that contains "int main(...)" and start there.. |
| 08:46.34 | mdeanda | (but sometimes the filename are descriptive enough to not have to do that) |
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| 08:47.13 | mdeanda | luca: what distro are you using? |
| 08:47.24 | Lupino | What part(s) of KDE is/are responsible for the volume control OSD? I rebuilt some stuff yesterday (qt and kdelibs) and now it's gone, though all services, etc. appear to be fine. I'm on Gentoo, if it matters. |
| 08:47.44 | Lupino | As in, I need to know what to rebuild to pull it back into being. |
| 08:47.52 | luca | kubuntu gutsy rc |
| 08:48.19 | luca | int you said? |
| 08:48.28 | mdeanda | Lupino: oddly enough, i don't think its kmix :) |
| 08:48.43 | mdeanda | Lupino: i think it may be something like kmilo? but it might have changed |
| 08:48.48 | Lupino | heh, me neither ;) I |
| 08:49.10 | Lupino | Yeah, I had the same issue earlier and when I fixed the loading of kmilo it worked. |
| 08:49.20 | Lupino | But kmilo is running now and it's still a no-go. |
| 08:49.23 | mdeanda | luca: "int main", its where the app would start running from. |
| 08:49.29 | Lupino | The hotkeys work fine and kmix responds to them, though. |
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| 08:49.54 | mdeanda | so it does change the volume, just osd is gone? |
| 08:49.58 | Lupino | Ah, and I forgot to add: KDE 3.5.7, guess it figures. |
| 08:50.01 | Lupino | yahs |
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| 08:55.48 | enzovinuser | buongiorno |
| 08:56.12 | enzovinuser | !list |
| 08:56.25 | pinotree | hi, there's no ! bot here |
| 08:57.03 | enzovinuser | good morning |
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| 09:08.17 | Anonycat | Why isn't it possible to send Kopete messages to arbitrary names without having to add them to a list first as just about every other client allows? |
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| 09:15.40 | pinotree | Anonycat: that depends on the protocol |
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| 09:23.34 | mdeanda | speaking of kopete.. any ideas why kopete takes really long to start when i have about 150 "buddies" on my list? these come from a jabber server... (from work) |
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| 09:24.59 | Lupino | hmh, I got the OSD thing working again by rebuilding kioslaves, it seems. |
| 09:25.28 | Lupino | mdeanda: No idea, except that it looks like it could do with a speed improvement for rendering long buddy lists. |
| 09:25.38 | Lupino | File a wish to the developers? ;) |
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| 09:58.34 | Stinkfly | hi |
| 09:59.09 | Stinkfly | does KMPLayer work for WinTV |
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| 10:09.57 | Stinkfly | bue |
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| 10:39.29 | Soner | http://www.stormofcash.com/index.php?ref=ezis15 EARN REALL MONEY ON E-GOLD!!! |
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| 10:58.24 | syli725 | Hi, I am new to GUI programming and want to study how to program Linux GUI. Can anyone give me some advices where to start with? or give me some concepts that I can google with? So far, I know GTK+ for gnome and QT for KDE. what about XGL? How to add opengl effect to GTK+ or QT? Thanks a lot. |
| 10:59.32 | boom1992 | syli725: look at the QtGL-classes |
| 10:59.32 | boom1992 | ^^ |
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| 11:01.06 | syli725 | boom1992, I am really new on this. does it mean there should be something like GTKGL classess for GTK as well? where to start with? can you suggest me some online tutorial? thanks a lot. |
| 11:02.00 | boom1992 | syli725: look @ doc.trolltech.com |
| 11:02.19 | boom1992 | I don't know so much a/b GTK |
| 11:02.43 | boom1992 | but you can ask in #gnome |
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| 11:03.09 | syli725 | boom1992, Does it mean I should study QT first, then opengl, and then QTGL? thanks. |
| 11:03.17 | boom1992 | mmh |
| 11:03.31 | boom1992 | what do you want to do with it?? |
| 11:03.37 | boom1992 | when you want to develop games |
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| 11:03.47 | boom1992 | then you should learn OpenGL only |
| 11:03.47 | boom1992 | ^^ |
| 11:03.49 | boom1992 | mom |
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| 11:05.17 | boom1992 | http://nehe.gamedev.net/lesson.asp?index=01 |
| 11:05.28 | boom1992 | that could be a good starting point |
| 11:05.43 | boom1992 | you of course search for translations |
| 11:05.48 | boom1992 | :-) |
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| 11:08.11 | syli725 | boom1992, hm...... eg: I want to program my own desktop panel which have compiz/beryl effects. something like that. Does this make sense? thanks. |
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| 11:08.38 | boom1992 | syli725: cool |
| 11:08.39 | boom1992 | :-) |
| 11:09.41 | boom1992 | then you should start with a bit Qt and then QtGL |
| 11:10.03 | syli725 | boom1992, thanks a lot for this advice. :) |
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| 11:10.48 | boom1992 | http://doc.trolltech.com/4.3/examples.html#opengl |
| 11:10.57 | boom1992 | that could be useful :-) |
| 11:11.08 | syli725 | boom1992, thank you very much. ^_^ |
| 11:12.25 | boom1992 | :-) |
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| 11:12.55 | flithm | hey does anyone know if the kate make plugin is supposed to take you to a specific line in a source file when you click on an make error? |
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| 11:13.46 | Platyna | That blitz thing is kdebase requirement not kdelibs right? |
| 11:13.55 | pinotree | correct |
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| 11:14.33 | Platyna | Good, then I have all requirements installed. |
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| 11:15.15 | Platyna | pinotree: Well, after giving it some thought, it is nice cmake shows progress and colours errors etc. But the debug mode is useless and error messages are ambigious. |
| 11:15.19 | Platyna | ;) |
| 11:15.34 | pinotree | the "debug mode"? |
| 11:15.45 | Platyna | --debug-output option. |
| 11:16.08 | pinotree | make VERBOSE=1 will give you quite a lot of output |
| 11:16.16 | Platyna | I got yesterday "Error 255" and...I had to use my telepathic power to find out what is wrong. |
| 11:16.40 | Platyna | pinotree: Ah well, I didn't know about this one. :) |
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| 11:17.12 | Platyna | But well, kdelibs are compiling, let's pray. |
| 11:17.54 | Platyna | pinotree: Three lines, may I paste? |
| 11:18.03 | pinotree | use the pastebin |
| 11:18.15 | Platyna | Fine then. |
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| 11:20.26 | Platyna | pinotree: Well, if you could give me some pastebin that works with links... |
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| 11:20.39 | pinotree | Platyna: the one in the topic? |
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| 11:22.34 | Platyna | pinotree: Hehe, I feel love floating all over this channel. ;) |
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| 11:23.36 | Platyna | But well, I can't paste it anyway to my irssi. Whatever then. |
| 11:24.04 | Platyna | http://rafb.net/p/Foy7nH69.html |
| 11:24.08 | Platyna | Oh I did. |
| 11:24.13 | Platyna | GPM is evil. |
| 11:24.34 | Platyna | pinotree: I hope these are all requirements for kdelibs. |
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| 11:25.17 | pinotree | eigen, no |
| 11:25.29 | pinotree | ilmbase, don't know what is it |
| 11:25.39 | Platyna | ilmbase is needed by openexr. |
| 11:25.44 | Platyna | It is depency of depency. |
| 11:25.46 | Platyna | ;) |
| 11:25.49 | pinotree | ok |
| 11:26.59 | Platyna | I remember that something were complaining about eigen thing. |
| 11:27.42 | Nyle | fjjdklinljasdf |
| 11:27.45 | Nyle | ;kjoais859m.,m. oi8-04 |
| 11:27.47 | Nyle | oops |
| 11:27.55 | Nyle | keyboard fell |
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| 11:29.10 | Platyna | pinotree: I am porting Slackware to Itanium 2. Maybe I could port KDE too. :D |
| 11:29.19 | pinotree | good luck.. |
| 11:29.30 | Platyna | It goes pretty well so far. ;) |
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| 11:36.24 | Platyna | KDElibs done hm. Very fast. |
| 11:39.57 | fred | Platyna: Yay for cmake! :D |
| 11:41.51 | zenix | anyone know how to remotely add a feed to Akgregator? |
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| 11:43.49 | Platyna | fred: If you say so. ;) |
| 11:44.07 | fred | it's a large part of the speedup :p |
| 11:44.10 | Platyna | fred: What should be compiled first? kdebase or kdebase-workspace? KDE base, right? |
| 11:44.15 | fred | largely to not using libtool |
| 11:44.18 | fred | IIRC |
| 11:45.51 | fred | Platyna: I've not had to make that distinction, I've been using svn, sorry. |
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| 11:47.38 | Platyna | fred: You are a Slamd64 developer? |
| 11:49.17 | icwiener | zenix: akregator -a URL |
| 11:49.18 | fred | Yes. |
| 11:49.24 | zenix | icwiener, thanks |
| 11:49.34 | icwiener | Oh, remotely?... hmm. |
| 11:49.38 | zenix | well |
| 11:49.43 | zenix | from another app :P |
| 11:49.57 | icwiener | zenix: There is a dcop interface for that as well... |
| 11:50.00 | zenix | DCOP was my first guess but that didn't work out too well |
| 11:50.28 | Platyna | CMake Error: Could not find REQUIRED package Blitz |
| 11:50.31 | icwiener | dcop akregator AkregatorIface addFeedsToGroup '[' "$url" ']' $GROUP |
| 11:50.31 | Platyna | Grreat. |
| 11:50.37 | Platyna | And this is installed. |
| 11:50.46 | Platyna | sf.net/qimageblitz, right? |
| 11:50.56 | Platyna | sf.net/projects/qimageblitz, right? |
| 11:51.09 | fred | kdesupport |
| 11:51.09 | Platyna | fred: Well, at least someone who underestand godness of Slackware. :) |
| 11:52.01 | zenix | icwiener, what do I use for $GROUP for "All Feeds" i.e. put it in globaly and not any sub-group |
| 11:52.25 | Platyna | fred: Where is something like config.log in cmake? |
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| 11:53.38 | fred | $BUILD/CMakeFiles/CMakeError.log |
| 11:54.09 | fred | also, if you got that error once, installed qimageblitz, than ran cmake again and still got that error, remove "CMakeCache.txt" |
| 11:54.17 | icwiener | zenix: Sorry. I didn't really use it. Here I just copied it into a script and it works. :) |
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| 11:55.17 | Platyna | fred: I found this, but nothing is there about tests for blitz. |
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| 12:05.01 | Platyna | fred: Problem is a remove all files and then restarted the process. |
| 12:05.11 | Platyna | And I have blitz 0.0.3 installed. |
| 12:06.36 | fred | Heh, "svn up"'ed kdelibs-svn, and soprano, and built both in less time than kdelibs-3.5.8 :D |
| 12:07.15 | Platyna | Well, I don't care how long the build it but how successful. |
| 12:07.17 | Platyna | :( |
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| 12:08.01 | fred | well, following the instructions on that techbase article I linked you too yesterday, it does biuld fine :p |
| 12:08.22 | Platyna | fred: Can you do locate blitz and paste me? |
| 12:08.22 | Platyna | ;) |
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| 12:08.47 | Platyna | fred: It may be via PM since I am running out of consoles. |
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| 12:09.34 | fred | Platyna: Where did you get blitz from? |
| 12:09.46 | Platyna | sf.net/projects/qimageblitz |
| 12:09.47 | fred | that sf link earlier, or kdesupport? |
| 12:10.02 | Platyna | Yes, SF. |
| 12:10.05 | fred | try the kdesupport versoin :p |
| 12:10.07 | fred | *version |
| 12:10.23 | Platyna | Could you do for me that thing I asked for above? ;) |
| 12:10.27 | Platyna | I would be grateful. |
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| 12:11.11 | fred | Platyna: heh, locate: warning: database /var/lib/slocate/slocayte.db' is more than 8 days old :p |
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| 12:11.46 | fred | actually,mhe, I'll just find it for you |
| 12:11.58 | Platyna | :) |
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| 12:14.21 | fred | find is being slow :p |
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| 12:15.18 | Platyna | :) |
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| 12:21.00 | fred | eck I accidentally ran make -j.... |
| 12:21.07 | fred | my CPU didn't like it. |
| 12:23.05 | Platyna | Hehe. |
| 12:23.13 | Platyna | So, did you foound that blitz stuff? |
| 12:26.39 | fred | Platyna: no, my cpu cried, and had to kill nearly everything to get back... :p |
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| 12:26.42 | fred | doing it again. |
| 12:28.03 | Platyna | What is the SVN link to that blitz thing on kdesupport? |
| 12:28.18 | Platyna | At least on SF.net all pathes match for websvn and svn. :(' |
| 12:29.02 | fred | erm... :| it's /trunk/kdesupport/qimageblitz on whatever the anonsvn is (which I don't use... :|) |
| 12:29.27 | fred | ah svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/trunk/kdesupport/qimageblitz |
| 12:29.28 | Platyna | svn: PROPFIND request failed on '/trunk/kdesupport/qimageblitz' |
| 12:29.28 | Platyna | svn: PROPFIND of '/trunk/kdesupport/qimageblitz': 302 Found (http://anonsvn.kde.org) |
| 12:29.31 | Platyna | :D |
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| 12:30.10 | fred | Jucato: Yeah, then 'fred' didn't turn up for a few months :p |
| 12:30.15 | Jucato | :) |
| 12:30.34 | Jucato | Platyna: how's your slack packaging doing? having better luck w/ cmake? |
| 12:31.08 | Platyna | Jucato: Actually I am being slammed at stupid little thingies. |
| 12:31.22 | Platyna | For example now I am trying to find SVN link to that qimagething. |
| 12:31.23 | Platyna | :D |
| 12:31.32 | Jucato | what do you mean by svn link? |
| 12:31.40 | fred | 12:29 < fred> ah svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/trunk/kdesupport/qimageblitz |
| 12:31.41 | fred | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:32.08 | Platyna | fred: Yay! :S |
| 12:32.22 | Jucato | heh he did give it earlier already :) |
| 12:32.36 | Jucato | nah don't :) |
| 12:33.00 | Jucato | Platyna: websvn.kde.org and lxr.kde.org are very, very useful :) |
| 12:33.09 | Jucato | (specially the 2nd one) |
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| 12:34.04 | Earthnail | Hey there |
| 12:34.57 | Earthnail | I just set up my dual head mode with the proprietary NVidia driver. It all worked fine on openSuSE 10.2, but now in 10.3, the kicker on my larger screen (1280x1024) is placed as if the screen had the resolution of the smaller screen (1024x768) |
| 12:35.29 | Earthnail | I guess it's a kwin bug, because not only kicker thinks that the screen is that small but also windows behave like it was that small when you maximize them |
| 12:36.03 | Earthnail | The kicker extension, a bar at the top (I've got MacOS style menus), however behaves completely normal and scales over the whole width of the screen |
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| 12:40.01 | tsb | If you make the taskbar's height above a certain size, the deskbar applications stack 2 in height instead of just getting fatter as well - is it possible to force it to 1 in height soomhow? |
| 12:40.39 | Jucato | deskbar applications? |
| 12:42.00 | Earthnail | he means the window list |
| 12:42.14 | Sho_ | tsb: [General]MinimumButtonHeight in ~/.kde/share/config/ktaskbarrc |
| 12:42.14 | Jucato | ah the taskbar? hm... |
| 12:42.24 | Jucato | oh there... |
| 12:42.35 | Platyna | Hooray, it found the darn blitzkrieg. |
| 12:42.36 | tsb | Sho_: thanks! |
| 12:42.38 | Jucato | er.. "steps back" |
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| 13:01.36 | ardchoille | in gnome I could do "gnome-open filename" and have gnome open the file with the proper file associated app. How do I do that in kde? |
| 13:02.59 | Sho_ | ardchoille: kfmclient exec <url> |
| 13:03.06 | Jucato | bah he beat me again |
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| 13:05.09 | Sho_ | ardchoille: If you have xdg-utils installed you can also use "xdg-open", that will do the right thing depending on whether it's run in KDE or Gnome |
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| 13:05.43 | Jucato | afaik it's installed by default in Kubu |
| 13:05.50 | Sho_ | And finally, the Fish shell has a lovely built in "open" command that is aware of KDE's MIME file association database |
| 13:05.54 | ardchoille | Sho_: Awesome. Thank you much. |
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| 13:06.23 | Jucato | ah fish :) |
| 13:06.39 | ardchoille | Jucato: The program 'xdg-open' is currently not installed. |
| 13:06.45 | Jucato | hm. weird... |
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| 13:07.02 | ardchoille | But, I'm going to install it |
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| 13:09.13 | fred | Platyna: still want that "locate blitz"? |
| 13:09.15 | fred | updatedb just finished :p |
| 13:09.47 | Platyna | fred: Yeah, bring it on.,,. |
| 13:10.54 | fred | On a (not-easily-pasteable-from) system where it's installed in /usr rather than ~kde4/kde, it's the same except for the paths changed as appropriate, and no MS Combat flight sim :) |
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| 13:10.57 | fred | http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/105 |
| 13:11.45 | Sho_ | Platyna: Wow, still at it? ;) |
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| 13:12.00 | Platyna | fred: Do you have anywhere some list of what to compile after what? |
| 13:12.06 | Platyna | Sho_: I am a stubborn person. |
| 13:12.18 | fred | Platyna: I do: kdesupport, kdelibs, kdebase |
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| 13:12.31 | fred | and kdegames :p |
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| 13:12.39 | Platyna | fred: You are wrong here. |
| 13:12.40 | fred | sometimes kdepim too |
| 13:12.47 | Platyna | kdebase wont compile without kdepimlibs. |
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| 13:12.55 | fred | Platyna: Oops, yeah, forgot that :) |
| 13:13.05 | fred | oops |
| 13:13.06 | Platyna | And I wonder if I should do kdebindings after kdelibs, like it used to be. |
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| 13:13.30 | fred | for the rest of the build order, just copying the build order for 3.5 should be fine |
| 13:13.33 | fred | (see KDE.SlackBuild) |
| 13:13.45 | Platyna | I am seeing it all the time. I am getting dizzy! ;) |
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| 13:28.15 | Platyna | http://rafb.net/p/878zSA76.html |
| 13:28.17 | Platyna | ! |
| 13:28.33 | Platyna | What the hell...:/ |
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| 13:33.37 | maki | happy 11 years kde :) |
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| 13:33.58 | maki | keep up the good work :) |
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| 13:37.05 | fred | Anyone got this problem, and knows a fix: http://jamesots.blogspot.com/2007/09/kde4-wont-start.html ? |
| 13:37.43 | Platyna | -- The detected Ruby is too old for kross. A Ruby which has rb_hash_foreach is required. Upgrade to 1.8.2 or later |
| 13:37.50 | Platyna | And I have 1.8.6 installed. |
| 13:37.51 | Platyna | ;> |
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| 13:41.11 | gkiagia | fred: how are you trying to launch kde? I usually have problems with dbus-launch if I "su kde4user" and then start Xephyr and kde4 |
| 13:41.29 | gkiagia | fred: but it gets solved if I "su - kde4user" |
| 13:42.46 | fred | from kdm |
| 13:42.58 | fred | it works fine if I do startkde with DISPLAY set to an xnest :| |
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| 13:45.37 | fred | gkiagia: erm... solved it :| |
| 13:45.40 | Platyna | Sho_: Help! ;) |
| 13:45.48 | fred | reinstalling the nvidia driver did the trick :s |
| 13:45.50 | fred | that's damn weird |
| 13:46.04 | fred | wtf does the ndvidia driver have todo with dbus :s |
| 13:46.19 | Platyna | You will never know. |
| 13:46.23 | Platyna | Weird errors are so nice. |
| 13:46.29 | Platyna | See above. ROTFL. |
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| 13:47.26 | fred | also, yay! |
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| 13:47.37 | fred | For the frist time, I have plasma panel working :) |
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| 13:47.50 | fred | (it previously took a severe dislike to xinerama) |
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| 13:51.20 | fred | http://fred.uwcs.co.uk/b/ss-20071014.jpg :D |
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| 13:58.11 | linuxdork | I need some help with window decorations please |
| 13:59.21 | linuxdork | I've compiled 2 that I've downloaded from kde-look and when I install them they don't show up in kcontrol |
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| 13:59.36 | linuxdork | any ideas what could be wrong? |
| 13:59.49 | fred | Does trunk kdebase include any startmenu-like thing any more? |
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| 14:02.34 | Platyna | ... |
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| 14:03.33 | pinotree | fred: no |
| 14:03.44 | pinotree | beta3 does, though |
| 14:04.37 | fred | pinotree: Oh, ok :p |
| 14:04.38 | fred | kickoff? |
| 14:04.43 | pinotree | y |
| 14:04.44 | Platyna | pinotree: Can you take a look on my error messages? |
| 14:04.56 | pinotree | Platyna: i'd leave out kdebindings for now |
| 14:05.15 | Platyna | pinotree: It will not affect other parts of KDE? |
| 14:05.19 | pinotree | no |
| 14:06.25 | Platyna | Okay, thank you. |
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| 14:08.35 | fred | also, yay! knetwalk has gained marking of middle-click locked tiles again :) |
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| 14:10.36 | fred | pinotree: :D |
| 14:10.51 | fred | :| pitty how long the scaling of svgs takes |
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| 14:29.37 | ubuntu | hi |
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| 14:29.57 | adamt | klauncher said: Error loading 'kio_http'. <= great, now, what do i do? |
| 14:30.09 | adamt | i tried running kdeinit again, but no luck |
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| 14:51.06 | Platyna | Does anyone uses jam? |
| 14:51.06 | Platyna | ;] |
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| 14:53.50 | graingert | hi |
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| 14:53.59 | graingert | I can't get kbluetooth to work |
| 14:54.16 | graingert | at boot it says cannot connect to sdp service |
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| 15:06.38 | avuton | Is there a good gui for converting from flac to ogg/mp3? |
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| 15:07.23 | Sho_ | avuton: Soundkonverter is pretty good |
| 15:07.36 | avuton | ty |
| 15:07.41 | Sho_ | avuton: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=29024 |
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| 15:15.37 | adamt | i've got some problems here |
| 15:16.12 | adamt | kde can't find /opt/kde/lib/kde3/kio_http.la, and whines about the file not existing, but it *does* exist |
| 15:16.14 | adamt | what do i do? |
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| 15:24.43 | PhilRod | adamt: the answer is probably, "ask in #yourdistro", since I guess there's some distro-specific reason it's not finding it. But, when does the error occur? Can you paste the exact error message? |
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| 15:37.29 | adamt | PhilRod: it happened out of nowhere, and since the file does exist, i think it's fair to assume that it's another konqueror-bug |
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| 15:38.32 | adamt | http://pastebin.com/m7461eade |
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| 15:39.35 | PhilRod | line 11 is the actual error. Make sure libgssapi is installed, and findable, etc, etc |
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| 15:40.17 | adamt | ahh |
| 15:40.19 | adamt | i missed that |
| 15:41.44 | adamt | (and thank you) |
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| 16:03.01 | uahuha | hi, i found a bug in kmail |
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| 16:05.18 | PhilRod | uahuha: report it on bugs.kde.org. Make sure you include steps to reproduce the problem, and if the bug is a crash, a backtrace |
| 16:05.47 | uahuha | PhilRod: isn't a crash |
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| 16:06.45 | PhilRod | ok, then just steps to reproduce the problem |
| 16:07.34 | Platyna | KDM should be in kdebase/usr/bin/kdm right? |
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| 16:08.29 | Platyna | In KDE4. |
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| 16:09.17 | Varanger | hi! |
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| 16:11.02 | Varanger | I am using kde as non-root, whenever I try a admin application, it prompts for the root password. Is there a way it can make kde prompts for the invoking user password? |
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| 16:11.38 | PhilRod | Platyna: you mean the sources, or the binary? |
| 16:11.47 | sredna | Varanger: some distros do that, like kubuntu |
| 16:12.19 | Platyna | PhilRod: Binary. |
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| 16:12.39 | Varanger | sredna: I do that in kubuntu :D .... but I am using Gentoo now, and I also want that option |
| 16:12.46 | PhilRod | Platyna: by default, binaries go in $PREFIX/bin/ |
| 16:12.54 | Platyna | I am asking about kdm. |
| 16:13.17 | holyguyver | does anyone know weather one kde theme can use up more or less system resorces then a different kde theme? |
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| 16:13.53 | PhilRod | holyguyver: if by "theme" you're including widget themes and wm themes, then yes, it's possible |
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| 16:14.55 | holyguyver | well is there any kde theme that uses lless resorces then the standered one with all effects & fancey stuff turned off. |
| 16:16.16 | holyguyver | basicly what I am asking is there any way that a person can easily make kde only use the same amount of system resorces as something like fluxbox or xfce would? |
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| 16:17.34 | Platyna | pinotree: Anything changed in name/location of kdm? |
| 16:17.57 | PhilRod | holyguyver: probably not - KDE does a whole lot more than minimalist WMs (remember, it's a full desktop environment). |
| 16:18.15 | PhilRod | there *are* ways to improve performance though. Let me see if the wiki page is still up |
| 16:18.26 | holyguyver | thanks :) |
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| 16:19.10 | holyguyver | I normally run legacy pc's that were made in like 1998 & I need to know how to eiither optomize KDE to work on them, or use something like xfce or fluxbox |
| 16:19.10 | PhilRod | http://wiki.kde.org/tiki-index.php?page=Performance%20Tips |
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| 16:20.22 | PhilRod | I have kde running on my parents' (old) computer, and it runs passably. It does have 600MB of RAM, which helps |
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| 16:21.01 | holyguyver | well I am talking about ones witth less then 100MBs of ram |
| 16:21.54 | holyguyver | & something like a pentiamI or older |
| 16:22.48 | sabayonlive-2247 | DSL is 50 MB ans Knoppix will make a swapfile on a windows partition - don't remember if Knoppix will use KDE - it might. also knoppix mounts windows partitions as read only. |
| 16:23.06 | sabayonlive-2247 | by default |
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| 16:23.31 | Novell | will probably be hard to get it working good with so little RAM.. I've setup a bunch of machines with 128MB RAM though, but 196-256MB is the minimum I would aim for |
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| 16:30.29 | holyguyver | I just read the optimizations page & none of those apply to me, for I tturned off all the eyecandy long time ago, it does not help. but hey they wear talking about windowmaker, & indeed that supports what I said about me most likely having to switch to fluxbox or xfce |
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| 16:32.34 | holyguyver | I am asking about all of this because I am finally getting a new computer, I am going from my 1998 to a 2002 :) |
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| 16:57.53 | ironfroggy | is there some way i can have multiple kate sessions open at once? |
| 17:00.02 | sredna | ironfroggy: start them |
| 17:00.11 | sredna | kate -s <session name> |
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| 17:00.50 | ironfroggy | that doesn't replace the existing session? |
| 17:01.01 | ironfroggy | as in, i want a window open with one session and another window with a second session. |
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| 17:01.11 | pinotree | ironfroggy: let me guess... kubuntu? |
| 17:02.23 | ironfroggy | no, mac |
| 17:02.49 | pinotree | kde/x11? |
| 17:02.54 | ironfroggy | im an old school kde fan, tho. ive had to not run linux for some years now for work reasons and i now moved to mac and am using the mac port. |
| 17:03.00 | sredna | if kde runs worse on mac than on linux, poor you... |
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| 17:03.14 | ironfroggy | im enjoying it quite a bit actually. at least its BSD based. |
| 17:03.28 | pinotree | ironfroggy: theorically, you can open two kate windows, and open a different session in each |
| 17:04.25 | ironfroggy | starting a new kate process works for the multi-session. thanks! |
| 17:04.34 | ironfroggy | well the sessions include the windows, sot hat doesn't work |
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| 17:11.00 | RivaeAerya | how do i reset the kde artwork to the default kubuntu ones? |
| 17:11.35 | pinotree | reset?! |
| 17:12.00 | RivaeAerya | i upgraded from Feisty to Gutsy, and now i want the default panel and artwork again |
| 17:12.07 | RivaeAerya | but not lose all the passwords and settings for all kinds of stuff |
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| 17:13.08 | RivaeAerya | pinotree: so how |
| 17:13.09 | RivaeAerya | ? |
| 17:14.05 | pinotree | if you didn't change anything, you should be using the "default" |
| 17:14.05 | RivaeAerya | pinotree: i did |
| 17:15.33 | RivaeAerya | pinotree: i did change it, so how? |
| 17:15.47 | pinotree | chose it back |
| 17:16.06 | RivaeAerya | pinotree: i can't find the colorscheme, splash, and many other things |
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| 17:16.07 | RivaeAerya | like icons |
| 17:16.15 | RivaeAerya | and i don't know which is the default |
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| 17:16.49 | pinotree | RivaeAerya: ask in #kubuntu to know which are their defaults |
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| 17:17.07 | RivaeAerya | pinotree: the "defaults" button does not work |
| 17:17.17 | RivaeAerya | sredna: i meant you :P |
| 17:17.40 | pinotree | RivaeAerya: just to clarify, _which_ artwork are you talking about? |
| 17:17.51 | RivaeAerya | pinotree: kubuntu's default artwork |
| 17:17.53 | pinotree | icons? wallpaper? cursor themes? ... |
| 17:18.05 | RivaeAerya | everything |
| 17:18.21 | RivaeAerya | am i better off deleting .kde? |
| 17:19.03 | pinotree | NO |
| 17:19.12 | pinotree | (see topic, for example) |
| 17:19.53 | pinotree | you should ask in #kubuntu what are their defaults, an choose them in the config modules |
| 17:20.12 | olegfink | pinotree: I've never undrestood why not. I get equally good emotions from using kde and deleting ~/.kde |
| 17:20.59 | pinotree | olegfink: .kde contains, other then configuration, personal data, addressbooks, emails, chat logs, and many more |
| 17:21.07 | olegfink | pinotree: sure |
| 17:21.40 | olegfink | does kde4 maintain the same scheme? |
| 17:22.10 | pinotree | yep |
| 17:23.01 | olegfink | it could have something like ~/.kde/config, for eveyrthing that one may remove without losing sensitive data |
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| 17:23.15 | olegfink | the good question is which data to call sensitive |
| 17:23.17 | pinotree | it has already... |
| 17:23.57 | olegfink | erm |
| 17:24.08 | olegfink | I happen not to have ~/.kde at all atm |
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| 17:32.05 | Simkin | i lost "new directory" when i right click in a folder and go create new... |
| 17:32.10 | Simkin | any ideas? |
| 17:33.35 | Simonko | anyone knows how to view all the samba shares on the network? |
| 17:34.12 | olegfink | Simonko: smbtree should display sort of this thing. |
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| 17:36.24 | JohnFlux | Hey kde people |
| 17:37.00 | JohnFlux | I'm working on the process list thing for kde4. When you right click a process, I want to add an option that lets you select the process's parent |
| 17:37.10 | JohnFlux | but not sure what to call the action on the context menu |
| 17:37.25 | JohnFlux | I'm thinking "Jump to parent process" or "Select parent process" |
| 17:37.42 | JohnFlux | are those understandable about what they do? |
| 17:37.44 | Simonko | ppid |
| 17:37.46 | fred | IMO "Jump to" is better :) |
| 17:38.02 | JohnFlux | do you think just "Jump to parent" works? |
| 17:38.35 | fred | not entirely sure |
| 17:38.48 | JohnFlux | I'll use the longer version then |
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| 17:52.21 | Earthnail | Hey there |
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| 17:53.02 | Earthnail | I've still got the same problem as this afternoon, so I'll just copy&paste it again if it's ok ;-) |
| 17:53.03 | maki | from wich pakages the http kio slave depends? |
| 17:53.12 | Earthnail | <Earthnail> I just set up my dual head mode with the proprietary NVidia driver. It all worked fine on openSuSE 10.2, but now in 10.3, the kicker on my larger screen (1280x1024) is placed as if the screen had the resolution of the smaller screen (1024x768) |
| 17:53.13 | Earthnail | [So Okt 14 2007] [14:35:34] <Earthnail> I guess it's a kwin bug, because not only kicker thinks that the screen is that small but also windows behave like it was that small when you maximize them |
| 17:53.13 | Earthnail | [So Okt 14 2007] [14:36:08] <Earthnail> The kicker extension, a bar at the top (I've got MacOS style menus), however behaves completely normal and scales over the whole width of the screen |
| 17:53.56 | Earthnail | so does the desktop background, it scales the way it should on both screens |
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| 17:55.01 | RivaeAerya | How do i restore the KDE panel's default settings? |
| 17:55.49 | Sho_ | RivaeAerya: (Re)move ~/.kde/share/config/kickerrc and ~/.kde/share/config/ktaskbarrc |
| 17:55.57 | RivaeAerya | Sho_: thanks |
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| 18:01.38 | demon_spork | falalalala |
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| 18:03.01 | ner0x | What is the DV video editing tool for kde? |
| 18:03.35 | RivaeAerya | Sho_: what's the default iconset of Kubuntu Gutsy? |
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| 18:05.54 | Sho_ | RivaeAerya: Crystal, afaik |
| 18:06.02 | RivaeAerya | Sho_: which one? |
| 18:06.18 | Sho_ | RivaeAerya: Crystal SVG, the one we ship with KDE as default |
| 18:06.34 | RivaeAerya | Sho_: Okay. why not crystal project, by the way? |
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| 18:08.55 | Sho_ | RivaeAerya: Probably because it was released after the KDE 3.5 branch went into freeze, and because no one was interested in doing the work on integrating even more icons we don't have the sources to given that we're developing a new icon set for KDE 4 anyway (Oxygen) |
| 18:09.19 | RivaeAerya | Sho_: when's KDE 4 going to be released? |
| 18:09.51 | Sho_ | RivaeAerya: The tentative target date for the tagging of 4.0 is December 11th |
| 18:10.03 | RivaeAerya | that's a long way to go |
| 18:10.24 | RivaeAerya | can i get Oxygen on KDE 3? |
| 18:10.31 | Platyna | Sho_: kdm is now in kdebase-workspace right? |
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| 18:10.55 | Sho_ | RivaeAerya: Not easily, because the icon file names have changed and don't fit into KDE 3 (we've switched to freedesktop.org's icon naming spec for KDE 4) |
| 18:10.59 | pinotree | RivaeAerya: no, oxygen is a freedesktop.org icon theme, which kde3 cannot use |
| 18:11.07 | chiheb | salut |
| 18:11.09 | Sho_ | Platyna: yup |
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| 18:11.22 | RivaeAerya | pinotree: oh, and does KDE 4 support all the KDE 3 icon themes? |
| 18:11.25 | Earthnail | RivaeAerya: Yeah there are some scripts out there afaik but the oxygen people don't want people to do as they stated many times, to keep it "fresh" for KDE4 |
| 18:11.32 | Sho_ | RivaeAerya: Not without converting them first |
| 18:11.35 | pinotree | RivaeAerya: no, thye must be converted |
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| 18:11.40 | RivaeAerya | hmm |
| 18:11.46 | Platyna | Sho_: Ok, then mystery about where did kdm gone is solved. |
| 18:11.46 | Platyna | ;] |
| 18:11.48 | RivaeAerya | Earthnail: can you link me to such a script? |
| 18:11.55 | Earthnail | RivaeAerya: Try Tango instead |
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| 18:11.58 | Earthnail | ;-) |
| 18:12.06 | RivaeAerya | Earthnail: tango? in kde? |
| 18:12.26 | Earthnail | yeah, you can find a KDE compatible tango icon scheme on kde-look.org |
| 18:12.29 | pinotree | Earthnail: tangi is a freedesktop.org icon theme as well, thus kde3 cannot use it |
| 18:12.31 | Sho_ | Tango is also an fd.o icon naming spec theme and thus will work most easily with KDE 4 |
| 18:12.38 | pinotree | *tango |
| 18:13.07 | Platyna | So, new KDE icon theme is orange not blue? ;) |
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| 18:13.21 | Sho_ | No. How would you get that idea? |
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| 18:13.32 | RivaeAerya | Earthnail: why would you want tango in kde 4? |
| 18:13.48 | RivaeAerya | err, 3 |
| 18:13.52 | Earthnail | RivaeAerya: maybe some people don't like oxygen because it's really very shiny |
| 18:14.01 | Earthnail | RivaeAerya: I personally _love_ the Oxygen theme |
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| 18:14.12 | Earthnail | But currently, in KDE3, I use tango |
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| 18:14.30 | RivaeAerya | Earthnail: me too, i tried it a while ago using a script, but it's outdated now and the installing of it takes very long, methinks |
| 18:14.46 | RivaeAerya | http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/KDEmod+Tango+Icons?content=63486 <-- this one? |
| 18:15.05 | maki | the kdemod tango dont look so nice :( |
| 18:15.06 | Candid | many of my kde applications break compiling with the message ?libtool: link: cannot find the library `/usr/kde/3.5/lib/libkdnssd.la'?. libkdnssd.la actually is in /usr/lib/. this is Gentoo linux, any idea what i have to recompile? |
| 18:15.23 | maki | try nuvoX |
| 18:15.34 | RivaeAerya | maki: nuvoX? |
| 18:15.45 | Sho_ | Candid: #gentoo-kde |
| 18:16.29 | maki | RivaeAerya yes they are like nuvola tango and crystal clear |
| 18:16.58 | maki | also its a complete icon set |
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| 18:19.29 | RivaeAerya | maki: thanks for that :) and.. i have kde 3.5.8 here.. is that normal? i mean, the topic says 3.5.7... |
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| 18:19.35 | Ace2016 | Hi all |
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| 18:20.40 | Ace2016 | where is the option that makes kde update the system time from internet servers instead of the local clock? i just want to always have the correct time, i remember right clicking on the clock and choosing adjust time and date and ticking some checkbox to update from some timeservers, does such a feature exist or am i imagining it? |
| 18:20.58 | Earthnail | RivaeAerya: 3.5.8 will officially be released tomorrow |
| 18:21.07 | Sho_ | RivaeAerya: 3.5.8 has been tagged a few days ago, but is not officially released yet - guess your distro is a little hasty |
| 18:21.24 | RivaeAerya | Sho_: ok |
| 18:21.28 | RivaeAerya | Sho_: what does it bring with it? |
| 18:22.02 | Ace2016 | well when was 3.5.8's code finalised for release? |
| 18:22.16 | Ace2016 | maybe the distro just shipped it because the dev work was done |
| 18:22.20 | Sho_ | RivaeAerya: http://www.kde.org/announcements/changelogs/changelog3_5_7to3_5_8.php |
| 18:23.25 | maki | mewlines seen when sending richtext to gaim and trillian clients. Fixes bug :) |
| 18:23.30 | maki | nice |
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| 18:24.04 | Ace2016 | debian sid doesn't have kde 3.5.8 yet, what distro do you have? |
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| 18:24.16 | Simonko | how can i enable hardware acceleration? |
| 18:24.29 | RivaeAerya | Ace2016: Kubuntu Gutsy - gets released in 4 days, this is the Release Candidate |
| 18:24.45 | Ace2016 | oh ok |
| 18:24.52 | RivaeAerya | it's stable |
| 18:24.55 | RivaeAerya | no bugs seen yet |
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| 18:25.24 | Ace2016 | i wish i stayed with it, debian sid has the latest software but no xgl or compiz-fusion |
| 18:25.42 | maki | RivaeAerya is focused on bugfixes :) |
| 18:25.52 | k4ever | hi all |
| 18:25.59 | maki | it should be stable |
| 18:26.04 | Simonko | how can i enable hardware acceleration? |
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| 18:26.38 | k4ever | i've been googling all day looking for a way to change the kickoff menu icon when i have the panel (kicker) on top |
| 18:26.49 | maki | Simonko you should ask on your distro's chanell |
| 18:26.49 | Ace2016 | is there hardware acceleration for kde? |
| 18:27.02 | k4ever | i can't seem to find where to do it |
| 18:28.05 | maki | k4ever yeah kickoff icons are ugly when you change size of panel |
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| 18:29.41 | k4ever | i just want kickoff to use the same icon (the one i set) whether the panel is on the top or bottom of the screen |
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| 18:33.30 | trpr | in superkaramba, where does "Get New Stuff" check to see that i have a given theme installed? it tells me i have themes installed which aren't :\ |
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| 18:35.09 | k4ever | ok, i figured out how to do it.... |
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| 18:35.23 | Ace2016 | so anyone know how i get the kde clock to update from ntp pool or something, i remember a dialogue box about it, just can't find it |
| 18:35.43 | k4ever | when the kicker is at the top, the menu is considered "flipped" |
| 18:35.55 | Sho_ | Ace2016: KControl -> System Administration -> Date & Time -> Administrator Mode |
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| 18:36.34 | k4ever | so i just renamed my kmenu_basic.mng file to kmenu_flipped.mng |
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| 18:37.13 | k4ever | now the menu icon for kickoff is the same for both a top and bottom kicker |
| 18:37.50 | k4ever | why is there no documentation on this? |
| 18:38.09 | Ace2016 | Sho_: i went there before but i do not see a checkbox or anything about updating the time |
| 18:38.28 | Ace2016 | i'm looking at it now and i still do not see it |
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| 18:55.13 | Platyna | Kdelibs, kdebase, kdebase-workspace should be enought to run KDE right? |
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| 18:57.39 | Sho_ | Platyna: well without kdebase' apps/ there's not that much to run (not even a file manager ...) |
| 18:58.41 | Platyna | Sho_: Well I am just curious, because when I run KDE now, for test there where is normally the taskbar there is "object cannot be created". |
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| 18:59.09 | sayers | Wowza! I love the way I have my kde setup! |
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| 18:59.39 | Sho_ | Platyna: You've built Beta2, right? Yeah, the Plasma panel wasn't really functional out of the box in that one |
| 19:00.12 | Sho_ | Platyna: Beta 3 is out soon, that will be quite a bit nicer than Beta 2 |
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| 19:02.14 | Platyna | Sho_: Well, I am just asking, if I will have the task bar, panel etc. when I compile this. |
| 19:02.47 | Platyna | You know, the place where windows are being minimalized to... |
| 19:02.53 | Sho_ | Platyna: Beta 3 should have a functioning panel, yes |
| 19:03.05 | sayers | I have a question , how do I remove a server from network:/ |
| 19:03.11 | sayers | I mean remote:/* |
| 19:03.12 | Platyna | Sho_: I am asking if Beta2 has. |
| 19:03.50 | Sho_ | Platyna: Not really, no :) |
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| 19:04.10 | Platyna | :> |
| 19:04.13 | rektide | is there an equivalent of gnome-settings-daemon? |
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| 19:04.29 | Platyna | A 1,5 month before scheduled relase we don't even have a panel? ;> |
| 19:04.33 | rektide | my opera menus are clearly un-skinned and its ugly |
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| 19:04.53 | Sho_ | Platyna: Beta 2 was released on August 29th, that's more than 1.5 month from December 11th by my calculation |
| 19:05.27 | Platyna | ;] |
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| 19:06.53 | Platyna | Sho_: There is something I may use instead of panel? |
| 19:06.54 | Platyna | ;] |
| 19:07.24 | Sho_ | Platyna: Well, the window manager still has that Alt+Tab box if you need a window list |
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| 19:07.48 | rektide | fspanel / fbpanel |
| 19:07.53 | rektide | theres plenty of standalone panels |
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| 19:09.21 | Platyna | Sho_: And how can I access stuff that is usually in kmenu? ;) |
| 19:09.28 | sredna | there is no usable panel in current kde4 |
| 19:09.33 | sredna | nor a menu |
| 19:09.40 | Sho_ | Platyna: Beta 2 didn't have a menu |
| 19:09.57 | Platyna | Sho_: So, it is not usable? |
| 19:09.58 | Platyna | ;) |
| 19:09.59 | sredna | i was adviced to try kickoff, but it didn't compile |
| 19:10.25 | Sho_ | Platyna: Beta 2 isn't usable on a day-to-day basis, no |
| 19:10.32 | Platyna | kickoff? |
| 19:10.33 | Platyna | ;) |
| 19:10.37 | sredna | nor is trunk |
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| 19:10.57 | Platyna | Sho_: Bah, so I wasted the whole weekend to build thing I can't even use. Now I am depressed. |
| 19:11.00 | Platyna | ;S |
| 19:11.16 | Sho_ | Platyna: Kickoff is a KMenu alternative originally developed by SUSE/Novell for KDE 3, and recently reimplemented for KDE 4 by Robert Knight. It'll be the menu in KDE 4. |
| 19:11.19 | Platyna | At least I have slackbuilds. *sigh* |
| 19:11.31 | Platyna | Sho_: Mhmzmmm... |
| 19:11.36 | Sho_ | Platyna: Well, Beta 3 should be out this week, which is already in considerably better shape |
| 19:11.58 | Sho_ | Platyna: So I guess you can use your scripts for that :) |
| 19:12.59 | Platyna | Sho_: It has ran over my mind Sho_. :) |
| 19:13.19 | Platyna | Anyone has the download link for that kickoff thing? |
| 19:13.32 | Platyna | I am on its site...but I see here links to suse iso stuff. |
| 19:13.52 | Platyna | And I would rather die than use suse. |
| 19:14.09 | Sho_ | Platyna: The KDE 4 version of Kickoff is currently only available from the KDE SVN repository. Moreover, you won't be able to build it against KDE 4 Beta 2 due to API changes. |
| 19:14.18 | Platyna | Mhmz. |
| 19:14.19 | Platyna | ;] |
| 19:14.44 | Platyna | It is indeed a kartofel. |
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| 19:24.06 | pope | alt+mouseclick/drag moves the window... how can i prevent this? i need this in a wined application and did not find an apropriate option in kde or the app :/ |
| 19:24.49 | Sho_ | pope: KControl -> Desktop -> Window Behavior -> Window Actions -> second group box |
| 19:26.03 | pope | Sho_: big thanks!!! =) |
| 19:26.59 | Platyna | ;] |
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| 19:39.44 | Shadow_mil|lapto | I got a web cam on my new laptop |
| 19:39.50 | Shadow_mil|lapto | I have KDE installed |
| 19:40.32 | Shadow_mil|lapto | people say that my web cam does not support the jmpeg format or something, and that I need to setup my apps to use the v4l2 driver |
| 19:40.40 | Shadow_mil|lapto | how do I do this for KDE apps? |
| 19:40.46 | Platyna | ;) |
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| 19:44.08 | geflei | Hi, right place to ask KDE4 compile problem questions? |
| 19:44.59 | Platyna | What for? KDE4 is not functional. |
| 19:45.00 | Platyna | ;) |
| 19:45.10 | Platyna | And Sho_ promises us a functional one in a week. |
| 19:45.11 | Platyna | ;) |
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| 19:45.43 | dwinslow | geflei: you'll probably find more informed assistance in #kde-devel |
| 19:46.30 | geflei | Good hint, try this then. :) |
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| 19:49.11 | Sho_ | Platyna: I've stated that Beta 3 will be in considerably better shape than Beta 2. I've made no promises regarding a specific level of performance. |
| 19:49.24 | Platyna | :) |
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| 19:53.53 | user_ | test |
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| 19:59.59 | rektide | is there a daemon i need running for kde apps to use the kde theme i choose in kcontrol? |
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| 20:02.35 | Kasyx | rektide: have you applied the settings? |
| 20:02.42 | xevious | i know this sounds silly, but older versions of the kicker allowed you to have the icons enlarge when hovered over (a la OS X), but i can't find that setting any more... is there a way to enable it still? |
| 20:03.06 | Sho_ | xevious: That was removed in KDE 3.5 and replaced with the giant tooltips for bling |
| 20:03.22 | Kasyx | Giant tooltips of doom ;-) |
| 20:03.33 | Sho_ | rektide: no, you don't need to have a daemon running for KDE apps to use the KDE theme you chose |
| 20:03.37 | xevious | shucks |
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| 20:03.49 | Sho_ | Kasyx: The third thing I disable in any new KDE install ;) |
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| 20:04.02 | Kasyx | Sho_: what were the first two? |
| 20:04.18 | Sho_ | Kasyx: Single click and the busy bouncing cursor |
| 20:04.34 | Kasyx | Sho_: ahh! Yes, I can agree on the busy bouncing cursor. |
| 20:04.39 | Kasyx | Sho_: but I love single click. |
| 20:04.49 | xevious | Sho_: removing features is so, non-FOSS - should have been disabled as the default, and we should have a "Kicker Bling" dropdown option under "Configure Panel" |
| 20:05.25 | Sho_ | xevious: IIRC there were technical reasons for removing it in the face of nobody wanting to work on solving those |
| 20:05.33 | xevious | ah |
| 20:05.47 | Sho_ | Kasyx: Single-click to select, double-click to activate ... works for me :) |
| 20:05.48 | xevious | know of any kicker replacements that give you zoomy icons? :) |
| 20:05.54 | xevious | i know this sounds completely ridiculous |
| 20:06.03 | Kasyx | That remind me though, thanks xevious - what's the Dock app for KDE? |
| 20:06.04 | Sho_ | xevious: KSmoothDock I think |
| 20:06.11 | Kasyx | That's the one |
| 20:06.17 | Sho_ | also KXDocker perhaps |
| 20:06.21 | Kasyx | kdocker too, but it sucks |
| 20:06.36 | xevious | cool. i'll check 'em out |
| 20:07.03 | xevious | Kasyx: the Dock app for KDE? do you mean the kicker? |
| 20:07.29 | Kasyx | xevious: no, I meant ksmoothdock and kxdocker and their ilk. The Dock is the name of it in OS X. |
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| 20:07.54 | xevious | ah |
| 20:07.56 | xevious | rightio |
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| 20:12.36 | Kyoshiro | hi |
| 20:12.54 | PhilRod | hi Kyoshiro |
| 20:13.08 | Kyoshiro | I'm looking for an easy way to do kde-like OSD in a shell script |
| 20:13.19 | Kyoshiro | I'd like to know if there was a kosd or something ;) |
| 20:13.25 | Kyoshiro | like xosd |
| 20:13.28 | PhilRod | kdialog is probably your best bet |
| 20:13.37 | Kyoshiro | oh |
| 20:13.45 | Kyoshiro | thanks I'll try this :) |
| 20:13.45 | PhilRod | I don't think there's a command-line tool for OSD like konversation and amarok have |
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| 20:14.13 | Kyoshiro | in fact it's to show MPD song changes with a cute (or qt ^^) OSD |
| 20:14.38 | Kyoshiro | hmm so I don't want something like zenity |
| 20:15.16 | Kyoshiro | I suppose kdialog will wait for a confirmation |
| 20:16.01 | Kyoshiro | I'll look into qt-dev to find some C/C++ functions maybe |
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| 20:18.19 | PhilRod | Kyoshiro: if you hang around for a bit, Sho_, who's konversation maintainer, might be around. He can probably tell you about the konversation code for OSD |
| 20:18.47 | Kyoshiro | thanks :) |
| 20:18.52 | Kyoshiro | I'll stay a bit |
| 20:19.19 | Kyoshiro | in the meantime I'll poke into the code ;) |
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| 20:19.33 | Sho_ | Kyoshiro: Not much to tell, really - the OSD code in Konversation and Amarok has the same heritage, but they're independent copies. |
| 20:19.50 | Kyoshiro | hi Sho_ |
| 20:19.58 | Kyoshiro | ok |
| 20:20.12 | Kyoshiro | I tihnk I'll make a kosd program |
| 20:20.32 | Kyoshiro | coud you tell me a function name to help me find into the code ? :) |
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| 20:21.01 | Sho_ | Kyoshiro: Konversation's OSD is bottled up in osd.cpp/osh.h |
| 20:21.06 | Kyoshiro | ok thanks |
| 20:22.39 | Sho_ | Kyoshiro: But you can probably do better by starting from scratch with Qt4 given Qt4's far nicer graphics engine and the fact that the Konvi OSD, much like the Amarok OSD, is simply partially application-specific |
| 20:23.25 | Kyoshiro | hmm yeah but that mean I should move to qt4 and kde4 ? |
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| 20:23.42 | lontra | how can i enable konqueror integration with k3b? |
| 20:23.49 | Kyoshiro | I know we're not far from kde3 release though :) |
| 20:23.54 | Kyoshiro | 4 |
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| 20:26.35 | Sho_ | Kyoshiro: If all you need is a simple OSD app Qt-only would be fine |
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| 20:28.27 | Kyoshiro | yeah that's it |
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| 20:29.09 | Kyoshiro | Sho_: qt-only is a compilation flag ? |
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| 20:34.10 | Sho_ | Kyoshiro: No, I was referring to programming you app using only Qt, not KDE's libraries, since they wouldn't appear to be needed for your use case |
| 20:34.14 | Mirrakor | can anyone help me, my gpg-agent seems to be broken in some way :/ (Kontact can't use it anymore) |
| 20:34.18 | Sho_ | *your |
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| 20:34.48 | broken | Quick question, I am using kde and my theme manager is greyed out, I cannot use a diffrent theme. Does anyone know why? |
| 20:35.18 | Mirrakor | KDE Version, Distro, etc.? |
| 20:35.42 | broken | Kde version is 3.5.7 Distro is Gentoo |
| 20:35.57 | Mirrakor | Are we talking about the KDE Theme Manager? |
| 20:36.08 | broken | Oh sorry, the KDM theme manager. |
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| 20:36.26 | Mirrakor | well, you've to be root to use it :) |
| 20:36.28 | Sho_ | broken: You've clicked "Administrator Mode" in the module? |
| 20:36.33 | broken | Nope... |
| 20:36.36 | Mirrakor | actually there should be a small button on the bottom.. |
| 20:36.39 | broken | I see then. |
| 20:36.39 | Sho_ | broken: Then do :) |
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| 20:36.56 | broken | Another question, :) the actual theme manager itself.. I have no idea how to change themes. |
| 20:37.00 | Sho_ | broken: The KDM theme settings are system- rather than user-specific and thus require administrator (root) privileges |
| 20:37.12 | broken | Ah I see. |
| 20:37.26 | Mirrakor | you mean design? |
| 20:37.35 | Sho_ | broken: smileaf here is the author of that third-party KControl module, he would probably know |
| 20:37.35 | Mirrakor | Design |
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| 20:38.34 | broken | Ugh, I've tried using the Kore suite from kde-look.org. |
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| 20:38.44 | tntcoda | is kde4 beta 3 still expected tomorrow? |
| 20:38.44 | broken | I've imported the .kth theme which changed nothing. |
| 20:39.03 | bjwebb | is there a way to set a key combination that will minimise all windows including full screen ones |
| 20:39.22 | Sho_ | tntcoda: yes |
| 20:39.27 | Kyoshiro | that's right Sho_ |
| 20:39.31 | tntcoda | thanks |
| 20:40.02 | Kyoshiro | but since I never programmed complicated UIs I think I won't have enough time to code this :/ |
| 20:40.08 | Sho_ | bjwebb: There's the "Toggle Show Desktop" shortcut action which you can change in KControl; the default is Alt+Ctrl+D |
| 20:40.23 | bjwebb | ah thanks |
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| 20:41.35 | lontra | how can i enable konqueror integration with k3b? |
| 20:41.45 | lontra | i accidently said no initially |
| 20:42.26 | Sho_ | lontra: Settings -> Configure K3b... -> Misc -> GUI Settings -> [x] Enable Konqueror integration |
| 20:43.58 | bjwebb | Sho_: :S it doesn't work for full screen apps |
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| 20:51.42 | lontra | Sho_: thanks |
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| 21:12.41 | Wii | kubuntu? |
| 21:12.52 | Wii | is this kubuntu? |
| 21:12.55 | pinotree | #kubuntu |
| 21:13.12 | Wii | kde aint kubuntu? |
| 21:13.34 | pinotree | no |
| 21:13.43 | Wii | so wa is kde? |
| 21:13.48 | pinotree | kde is a desktop environment, kubuntu is a gnu/linux distribution |
| 21:14.04 | Wii | ok so im using kde then |
| 21:14.30 | Wii | can kde be use on xp? |
| 21:14.54 | Sho_ | Wii: Not yet |
| 21:16.06 | Wii | it's only for linux kde? |
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| 21:16.13 | Wii | hey cool there's no chanserv here |
| 21:16.13 | Sho_ | Wii: For any POSIX-compatible operating system for which an X11 server available, which in practice means Linux, Unix derivatives and implementations, and OS X |
| 21:16.41 | Sho_ | Wii: The Freenode IRC network does have ChanServ, it's just not joining the channels |
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| 21:17.19 | Wii | o.O |
| 21:17.21 | Wii | Sho_: u explane like a computer i'm a noob explaine like you would to a child |
| 21:18.05 | broken | Means you can potentially run it on winblows |
| 21:18.12 | broken | and on a mac |
| 21:18.24 | Wii | broken: how? |
| 21:18.27 | Sho_ | Wii: Well, basically, right now it's for Linux and similar systems (of which there are a few) |
| 21:19.14 | Wii | Sho_: so linux have 4 names? |
| 21:19.17 | Wii | brb |
| 21:19.30 | broken | KDE is irritating me with these themes, why can't I Just mv them ~/.themes and it just works. |
| 21:19.35 | smileaf | broken: question? |
| 21:19.58 | broken | smileaf: you have a question or do I have a question :P |
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| 21:20.10 | smileaf | broken: you |
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| 21:20.19 | Sho_ | Wii: No, but Linux has been inspired by an operating system called UNIX, and there are still descendants of UNIX around as well as other independent systems inspired by it. And there's an industry standard called POSIX that is common among all of them which KDE targets. |
| 21:20.21 | broken | How did you know? |
| 21:20.30 | broken | You said if I had a question before I evne typed one :) |
| 21:20.44 | smileaf | I got highlighted o.o |
| 21:20.55 | broken | Unless there is virtually no ping between us and you are my next door neighbor and you saw that a split second after I hit enter. |
| 21:21.01 | broken | lo |
| 21:21.03 | Wii | Sho_: u explane like a computer i'm a noob explaine like you would to a child |
| 21:21.11 | Sho_ | Wii: There are people working on bringing it to Windows, too, but for now, it's not there yet |
| 21:21.22 | broken | There is no point anyways. |
| 21:21.33 | Sho_ | Wii: I've tried the simple explanation, but you asked for more, so I gave you more :-) |
| 21:21.55 | Wii | so the inux im running name: linux,kubuntu,kde,unix,feisty? |
| 21:22.11 | broken | No you're probably running UBuntu |
| 21:22.20 | broken | Your Desktop Enviorment is KDE |
| 21:22.29 | broken | The version of ubuntu is 7.04 == feisty |
| 21:22.33 | Kasyx | How can I set konqueror to give me the option of saving a file if it's an external link? For example, my friend just sent me a link to a font, but konqueror opened it and told me I can't save it because it's binary. |
| 21:22.48 | broken | Rather you are running Kubuntu which is Ubuntu with KDE prepackages. |
| 21:22.50 | broken | d* |
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| 21:22.57 | Sho_ | Wii: Kubuntu is a so-called "distribution", which means it's an operating system made out of the products of individual open source projects, one of which is KDE, and another is Linux. |
| 21:23.32 | broken | Linux is a descendant of Unix like Sho_ said. |
| 21:23.43 | broken | Wikipedia could help ya out ;) |
| 21:24.05 | Wii | ok |
| 21:24.08 | Wii | ouf |
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| 21:24.14 | Sho_ | Wii: Yeah, it's probably a good idea if you browse to Wikipedia and start by reading the articles on Linux and KDE |
| 21:24.43 | Wii | brb i got to go wash the dishese my mommy is going crzy q°_°p |
| 21:25.08 | broken | Mommy heh. |
| 21:25.28 | Sho_ | broken: Well we gotta get them young, you know .. ;) |
| 21:25.48 | broken | Yep heh. |
| 21:26.10 | broken | Even with distros like OpenSUSE people still find it difficult. |
| 21:26.22 | broken | I don't understand that. OpenSUSE is like oneclick install and bam. |
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| 21:26.54 | broken | Of course I prefer to lose hair and spend my time figuring out why things don't work thats why I use gentoo. |
| 21:27.22 | Sho_ | heh |
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| 21:28.07 | broken | Speaking of which I somehow managed to get 248 blocked packages on my system rofl |
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| 21:31.39 | xevious | how do i get kicker to restart in a running KDE session? |
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| 21:31.47 | xevious | oh |
| 21:31.48 | xevious | nevermind |
| 21:31.53 | xevious | it just popped back |
| 21:31.55 | Sho_ | xevious: 'dcop kicker kicker restart' |
| 21:32.04 | xevious | thanks. |
| 21:32.11 | xevious | i'll save that for future reference |
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| 21:33.01 | xevious | dcop kicker kicker restart, not dcop kicker restart? |
| 21:33.10 | Sho_ | xevious: no, two kickers |
| 21:33.13 | xevious | rightio |
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| 21:33.21 | xevious | sorry to doubt you |
| 21:33.32 | Sho_ | xevious: you could also use "dcop kicker default restart" if the two kickers seem to strange :-) |
| 21:33.40 | xevious | nah |
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| 21:41.34 | Wii | broken: why u want to know my age? |
| 21:41.34 | bluelightning_ | ah, yet another gem comment on the dot... "I would suggest that we port 3.5 to Qt-4 but there are bugs to be fixed first." |
| 21:41.43 | Mii | broken: do u want to know mine? |
| 21:41.53 | bluelightning_ | I was going to respond but then I figured, what would be the point? some people never listen |
| 21:42.00 | Mii | broken: ill tell u next year ;D |
| 21:43.30 | broken | Yea... i really dont' care. |
| 21:43.49 | FreshPrince | anybody knowledge with ffmpeg? |
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| 21:47.43 | Mii | lol |
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| 22:03.18 | Roey | god damn it! |
| 22:03.21 | Roey | KDE is so fucking slow! |
| 22:03.28 | Roey | and it keeps forgetting where I left all the windows! |
| 22:03.32 | Roey | I have eight virtual desktops |
| 22:03.46 | Roey | why the fuck can't it open windows where I left them whenever I re-launch KDE? |
| 22:04.38 | Kasyx | Roey: so tie the app to a desktop |
| 22:04.41 | Kasyx | That's what I do. |
| 22:04.56 | Kasyx | konqueror is always in 2, amarok in 8, kopete in 1, cedega in 3 |
| 22:04.58 | Kasyx | etc |
| 22:05.00 | Roey | Kasyx: you mean through the window-specific settings? |
| 22:05.03 | Roey | Kasyx: I do that with GAIM. |
| 22:05.05 | Kasyx | Roey: I do indeed :-) |
| 22:05.10 | Roey | but this is *ANNOYING*! |
| 22:05.14 | Roey | oh, coo, it's bolded |
| 22:05.18 | Roey | (in irssi) |
| 22:05.22 | Roey | //test/ |
| 22:05.26 | Roey | oh, that's the same. |
| 22:05.27 | Roey | _test_ |
| 22:05.30 | Roey | ah, also bolded. |
| 22:05.36 | Kasyx | Yeah, irssi wins. Only works for single words though |
| 22:05.39 | pinotree | Roey: #flood or calm down |
| 22:05.42 | Kasyx | *see, this won't work* |
| 22:06.08 | Roey | Also, there seems to be no way to get it to slow down and /not/ try to open every app at once. |
| 22:06.14 | Roey | pinotree: heya |
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| 22:06.25 | Kasyx | Roey - are you talking about when you start a session? |
| 22:06.33 | IRSSIRoey | Kasyx: yes |
| 22:06.34 | pinotree | Roey: and no, i don't care if you have problems or not, entering here and starts a) randomly ranting b) doing your own tests is not acceptable |
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| 22:06.55 | IRSSIRoey | pinotree: fine |
| 22:06.58 | Kasyx | IRSSIRoey: then I really recommend using the window-specific settings. That's what they are there for |
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| 22:12.32 | Roey | hi all again |
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| 22:13.07 | Kasyx | wb Roey |
| 22:13.43 | Roey | why thank you |
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| 22:14.29 | xevious | is there a way to make konqueror do url completion like firefox does (ctrl+enter = add www. and .com, etc) |
| 22:14.30 | xevious | ? |
| 22:14.52 | Wii | Roey: u are complanaing about kde while my kde does the things yours is not doing |
| 22:15.21 | Wii | xevious: yes |
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| 22:18.57 | Scunizi | Is there a way to create a list of the programs that are listed in the K menu? |
| 22:18.58 | xevious | Wii: how? |
| 22:19.17 | Roey | Wii: sure |
| 22:19.22 | Roey | Wii: but it's not consistent then |
| 22:19.24 | Roey | in that case |
| 22:19.28 | Roey | another mark against KDE. |
| 22:19.29 | Roey | :( |
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| 22:19.52 | Kasyx | I think you're being too quick to judge, Roey. I've told you the best way to do it already. |
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| 22:20.57 | Scunizi | or.. is there a conf file that lists the programs in the K menu? |
| 22:21.04 | Roey | ok |
| 22:21.11 | Roey | Kasyx: I'll tell you what really annoys me at the moment |
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| 22:21.21 | Roey | Kasyx: it's the non-snappy user interface in Konqueror that gets me |
| 22:21.34 | Kasyx | Roey: what do you mean 'non-snappy' |
| 22:21.37 | Roey | Kasyx: I press a link, and when I move the mouse it behaves as if I am dragging an icon |
| 22:21.45 | Roey | and it litters the screen with many copies of this icon |
| 22:21.47 | Wii | xevious: ctrl+B |
| 22:22.04 | Kasyx | Roey: what are the specs of your system |
| 22:22.05 | Kasyx | ? |
| 22:22.06 | Roey | it's pulling other pages in background tabs |
| 22:22.20 | Roey | Kasyx: athlon64/3200, 2 gigs physical + 8 gigs swap |
| 22:22.26 | Roey | Kasyx: but it shouldn't even depend on that |
| 22:22.33 | Kasyx | 8 gig swap? What on earth for o.o |
| 22:22.46 | Wii | how do i know what version of kde i have? |
| 22:23.25 | xevious | Wii: ctrl+b is bookmark |
| 22:23.34 | Sho_ | Wii: Chose "About KDE" in the "Help" menu of any KDE application |
| 22:23.34 | Kasyx | Wii: control center start page |
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| 22:24.59 | Roey | Kasyx: running xfs_repair ;) |
| 22:25.07 | Roey | Kasyx: didn't do any good. And now I don't use XFS anymore. |
| 22:25.07 | Roey | fuck it. |
| 22:25.29 | Kasyx | Roey: language please. :-) |
| 22:25.39 | Kasyx | Roey: That icon, is it the bouncing busy icon? |
| 22:25.49 | Kasyx | Roey: if it is, turn it off, it's a nightmare. |
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| 22:29.29 | Roey | Kasyx: ok |
| 22:29.32 | Roey | yes it is the icon |
| 22:29.44 | Roey | but it leaves droppings all over the place when I move the mouse |
| 22:29.46 | Roey | have you seen this? |
| 22:29.53 | Kasyx | Roey: Yes, that's why everyone turns it off ;-) |
| 22:29.57 | Roey | ahh |
| 22:30.00 | Roey | why does it do this?? |
| 22:30.00 | Kasyx | Roey: I can't think of anyone that has it on |
| 22:30.07 | Roey | geg |
| 22:30.08 | Roey | vrv |
| 22:30.09 | Kasyx | Roey: no idea, badly coded I think. |
| 22:30.11 | Roey | *heh |
| 22:30.12 | Roey | brb |
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| 22:36.29 | Roey | Kasyx: wher edo I turn off this nightmare icon? |
| 22:36.31 | Roey | I want it gone |
| 22:36.32 | Roey | eradicated |
| 22:36.34 | Roey | banished |
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| 22:38.10 | Kasyx | Roey: Control Panel -> Appearance and Themes -> Launch Feedback |
| 22:38.18 | Roey | thank you |
| 22:38.55 | Roey | Hmm, I don't see this |
| 22:39.02 | Roey | System Settings -> Appearance |
| 22:39.03 | Roey | doesn't listit |
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| 22:39.32 | Kasyx | Roey: K -> Run Command... -> 'kcontrol' |
| 22:39.35 | Roey | ok |
| 22:39.37 | Roey | that's what I did. |
| 22:40.11 | Kasyx | So where are you getting |
| 22:40.15 | Kasyx | System Settings from? |
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| 22:46.56 | MacZtttlkwork | Hi! |
| 22:47.11 | MacZtttlkwork | Do you know about any kde or qt based distro wich works on older machines? |
| 22:47.35 | MacZtttlkwork | It's just I've been running Puppy Linux and it's quite fast but GTK2 apps are very slow and I was wondering... |
| 22:47.55 | MacZtttlkwork | if QT based apps are faster, and if there is any distro orientated to such task as running on older computers. |
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| 22:48.00 | Nyle | how much ram do you have to work with? |
| 22:48.05 | MacZtttlkwork | 128 |
| 22:48.16 | Nyle | can you get more? |
| 22:48.18 | MacZtttlkwork | but the graphics card is a pci 2mb card... a matrox :S |
| 22:48.24 | Nyle | dude... |
| 22:48.32 | MacZtttlkwork | no.. it's EDO RAM and it's ..without any more slots. |
| 22:48.44 | Nyle | no kde/gnome for you |
| 22:48.50 | Nyle | you might could try xfce4 |
| 22:48.52 | MacZtttlkwork | the only thing I could change would be the g. card. |
| 22:49.06 | MacZtttlkwork | so no qt based distro... ok |
| 22:49.06 | Nyle | you'd best be using a lightweight window manager and mostly X apps instead of gtk2/qt apps |
| 22:49.10 | MacZtttlkwork | xfce is gtk? |
| 22:49.13 | Nyle | not that I know of |
| 22:49.22 | Nyle | it is gtk2 but very light weight |
| 22:49.23 | MacZtttlkwork | ok! |
| 22:49.28 | MacZtttlkwork | thanks for the info anyway :-P |
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| 22:49.45 | MacZtttlkwork | I will read about xfce and let's see if my comp meets the requirements |
| 22:49.48 | Nyle | you could try Damn Small Linux |
| 22:49.58 | Nyle | it is fluxbox based |
| 22:50.05 | Nyle | made for very old machines |
| 22:50.37 | MacZtttlkwork | I've tried it but it's very....old looking :P |
| 22:50.57 | MacZtttlkwork | I mean when I want to use for the purposes I've been thinking of the GTK2 apps come again hehe |
| 22:51.14 | Nyle | you can't have your cake and eat it too |
| 22:51.21 | Nyle | doesn't work like that |
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| 22:51.28 | Nyle | you will have to make some compromises |
| 22:51.43 | MacZtttlkwork | Like buying a newer computer |
| 22:51.44 | MacZtttlkwork | lol |
| 22:51.54 | Nyle | I ram a machine with 128mb ram, 866mhz p3 for 1 year |
| 22:51.55 | Nyle | no problems |
| 22:51.58 | Nyle | I used xfce |
| 22:52.01 | Nyle | worked like a charm |
| 22:52.07 | Nyle | of course you'll swap a good bit |
| 22:52.08 | Kasyx | Fluxbox can be pretty! You just need decent themes :-D |
| 22:52.11 | Nyle | but still, its useable |
| 22:52.14 | MacZtttlkwork | but that's a Pentium 866... and mine is a Pentium MMX 200Mhz! muhahaha |
| 22:52.17 | Nyle | fluxbox is actually very very good |
| 22:52.24 | Nyle | MacZtttlkwork: well damn |
| 22:52.30 | Nyle | better buy a new machine |
| 22:52.40 | Nyle | or stick with old lightweight X apps |
| 22:52.42 | MacZtttlkwork | I like DSL's window manager theme... it reminds me to BeOS or something like that. |
| 22:53.00 | MacZtttlkwork | I'll stick with Puppy and GTK then... it's slow but usable. |
| 22:53.15 | Nyle | fluxbox when configured right and when you know how to use it properly is extremely powerful |
| 22:53.20 | ehc | How do I move the location of a universal taskbar? |
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| 22:53.30 | MacZtttlkwork | Let's talk about KDE4! If you want so... |
| 22:53.36 | AssociateX | is there a way to edit the start menu "most used applications" list? |
| 22:53.46 | Nyle | people on machines with 2GB ram, 3.5GHz core 2 duo, X1900XTX 256MB video card etc. etc. (me) still like to fluxbox |
| 22:54.03 | Nyle | not realy |
| 22:54.10 | Nyle | AssociateX: you only have two options |
| 22:54.24 | Nyle | they are in kcontrol > panel > menu |
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| 22:54.40 | Nyle | kcontrol > desktop > panels > menu |
| 22:54.43 | Nyle | something like that |
| 22:54.51 | AssociateX | thanks |
| 22:54.54 | Nyle | however |
| 22:54.59 | AssociateX | I'm going to check that out right now |
| 22:55.03 | Nyle | I'm sure the list is saved somewhere in ~/.kde |
| 22:55.10 | AssociateX | ok |
| 22:55.23 | Nyle | you could probably edit the list yourself, and make it read only |
| 22:55.36 | Nyle | so kde can't write to it, you might get errors but thats one ugly way to do it |
| 22:55.56 | AssociateX | Nyle, I just want to edit it but not make it read only |
| 22:56.00 | Nyle | AssociateX: why not disable that, and just edit kmenu, and add your shortcuts there |
| 22:56.15 | Nyle | AssociateX: if you don't make it read only, kde will overwrite it |
| 22:56.21 | Nyle | it is generated automatically |
| 22:56.28 | AssociateX | that is fine |
| 22:56.43 | Nyle | so whats the use then |
| 22:56.54 | Nyle | if you specify your apps in the most used apps list somehow, and your changes are not saved |
| 22:56.59 | Nyle | wtf are you gonna do? how is it fine/ |
| 22:58.14 | MacZtttlkwork | I don't use fauvorite apps menu.... I agree with Nyle, you can disable it and then insert your apps in the menu with the editor. |
| 22:58.22 | AssociateX | the app at the top of the list is not used any more. I just want it off |
| 22:58.33 | ehc | i have dual monitors but i cannot move panels around easily. is there a more advanved way to move panels? |
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| 23:04.19 | AssociateX | Nyle, any idea where that list might be in ~/.kde? |
| 23:04.31 | Nyle | dunno |
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| 23:23.56 | AssociateX | Nyle, /home/me/.kde/share/config/kickerrc |
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| 23:28.21 | Nyle | you found it? |
| 23:28.24 | Nyle | great job |
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| 23:37.50 | Gokee2_Laptop | Does KDE have any quicken type program built in? |
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