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00:00.16askarithx anyway pino
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00:00.53askariany idea where i can go?
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00:06.24Henkie-is this the right channel for questions regarding kprinter?
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00:18.23Henkie-ok, when trying to print a PDF file in kpdf, the job just looks likes it is being printed, but nothing goes to the printer, when trying the same pdf in evince, it succeeds
00:19.20Henkie-so i gathered it must be something with kprinter, this is on a kubuntu system btw
00:19.57Henkie-any tips where to look?
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00:40.34even-homewhat i use in kde to replace gnome-power-manager ?
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01:22.17bigdissavedhmmm, what do I need to check to see why K menu only has some of the items? menu updater shows more than the menu has....
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01:23.56Tarkusi have never used kde before. only GTK stuff. and i want to try out the pre-release stages of KDE4.. is there anyway to have the current KDE4 development version? and have it update the kde packages as they get closer to the end product?
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01:26.34JucatoTarkus: you might be better off trying a KDE 4 Beta4 Live CD (openSUSE or Debian)
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01:36.32FreshPrincedoes anybody know a nice tool that i can create a nice slideshow video with song etc?
01:36.53bigdissavedadobe premere?
01:38.22FreshPrincefor linux?
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01:39.28bigdissavedhmmmm
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02:02.09elite_chaosHi everyone there is a new site out that is real great!!! This site is called Wired Geeks Forums and is based on Computer Security, hacking, gaming, warez, and also many more things. This is a fast growing community. Please check it out at http://www.wgforums.com
02:02.19Jucatotsk tsk
02:02.32ArmandYawn!
02:02.46Jucatohow dare he break the sacred silence!
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02:03.00ArmandYeah,, with his noobism.
02:03.12Armanddisgraceful!
02:04.43Armandsomeone setup us the ban?? ^_^
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02:28.59fannagogannahi, is there an applet for KDE that shows the contacts in the kicker bar?
02:29.07fannagogannai had it once, but i forgot its name...
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04:45.34mikev3562this work?
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04:47.58mikev3562hello?
04:48.19ArmandNo.. it's borked.
04:48.25Armand^_^
04:48.53mikev3562never done this before... just going through my fedora programs and it just showed up
04:49.00ArmandCool
04:49.19ArmandIRC is ok, if you can tolerate some real muppets. :)
04:49.22mikev3562I thought this place would be flooded with people
04:49.28ArmandOther than that, quite useful. :D
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04:50.00ArmandErm, normally quite busy on this server, but there have been connection issues with the other servers.
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04:52.56mikev3562how many other "Channels " or rooms are there in IRC?
04:53.06ArmandLoads..
04:53.18Armand<PROTECTED>
04:53.28Armandshould bring up a channel listing.
04:54.23ArmandDoh!
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05:16.03KahigaAnyone know how to enable ALSA as xine an output plugin in Amarok?
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05:35.51Schalkenquestion: why does konqueror group together "java & javascript" in the configuration dialogue? i thought the two were completely unrelated.
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05:37.46mikev3562they arent completely different, javascript is a stripped down version
05:38.04mikev3562like vbscript is a lightweight version of vb
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05:44.14hagabakamikev3562: no, javascript is not related to java
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05:46.39hagabakaSchalken: i agree that they shouldn't be merged, especially considering that none of the other configuration groups have two tabs
05:46.58Schalkenhagabaka: hmm, yeah.
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05:49.14Schalkenhagabaka: should i post a bug about it to be fixed for 4.0?
05:49.32mikev3562i know that, I was just wondering if anyone was listening
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05:53.13PeterFAhttp://kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=69337
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05:56.22JucatoPeterFA: nice. works here.. now to try to see what I can do w/ it lol
05:56.46PeterFAJucato, do you have a run dialog applet on a bar in kicker?
05:57.02Jucatono. but yes, this will be nice for that :)
05:57.42PeterFAJucato, and it also works well in scripts too, like intrusion detection or, like I did, if apcupsd detects power failur.
05:58.09Jucatooooh I made a boo boo :P
05:58.19Jucatoxp "ls -lR" hahaha
05:58.51hagabakahmm, so many netsplits
05:59.00Jucatobut for simple stuff, yeah this works pretty well :)
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05:59.19PeterFAJucato, don't add quotes.
05:59.20hagabakaSchalken: i think that would be nice
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06:00.05JucatoPeterFA: ./xp: line 36: /usr/bin/kdialog: Argument list too long
06:00.07Jucato:)
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06:00.31PeterFAJucato, what's the whole command look like?
06:00.36PeterFAWorks for me.
06:00.41Jucato./xp ls -lR
06:01.01Jucatomaybe I just have to wait for a long time?
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06:01.55Jucatoif there's too much lines of output, it does that I think
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06:02.05mark_alecJucato: it is a kernel bug that i think is being fixed in .24
06:02.08PeterFAJucato, that would be kdialog's issue.
06:02.14Jucatomark_alec: huh?
06:02.25PeterFAYeah, you're abusing xp, :P
06:02.35Jucatoaw c'mon.. I was helping test it ;P
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06:05.23Schalkenin kcontrol, under appearance>fonts>"configure..." the "sub pixel hinting" checkbox is greyed out. why?
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06:10.29mark_alecJucato: http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/6060 - seems to be fixed in .23
06:10.48mark_alecmeaning that linux (the kernel) won't have argument lists that are 'too long' anymore
06:11.11Jucatoum.. so it has nothing to do with kdialog?
06:11.37mark_alecprobably not, which kernel are you running?
06:12.38twinkiekoé tem algum brazileiro na parada???????????????
06:12.54mark_alectwinkie: english?
06:13.05PeterFAThat's odd, my xp ls -lR hasn't popped up yet.
06:13.35PeterFAAh, my app got voted down!
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06:14.14Jucato2.6.22.9
06:14.21JucatoPeterFA: I didnt vote
06:14.27Jucatoso that's not me
06:14.30PeterFA:(
06:14.51mark_alecJucato: upgrade time! :)
06:14.57twinkieA little
06:15.15mark_alectwinkie: maybe #kde-br would be better for you
06:15.18SchalkenJucato, you know lots about KDE, do you know what it takes to enable subpixel hinting?
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06:16.57JucatoSchalken: are you on opensuse?
06:17.13SchalkenJucato: debian, this time.
06:17.22Jucatoah.. ok.. not really sure :)
06:17.32Jucatoand it's a bit beyond KDE... more on Debian level :)
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06:17.55Jucatoer.. more on X level
06:17.58twinkie
06:17.58twinkieBut how do I do?
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06:28.36PeterFAOk, that's it. I am now forced to realize I am a moron. I added a screen shot for my xp script that pops up the output of a command. Well, I also skinned out KDE to look like XP. So, what you get is 'xp' with an 'xp' themed window.
06:28.43PeterFAPeople are going to be so confused.
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08:19.44S1gnhello. can I set different bg for different panels? (3.5.8)
08:20.12Jucatoyou can't. one bg for all (afaik)
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09:05.41annmaanditosan: enable dead keys
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09:06.01anditosanmmm?
09:06.06anditosanhow is that done
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09:11.08aminez_85hello
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09:12.57tonzhey folks, i need a quick hint. i'd like to let kmail automatically delete a message if spamassassin marks it with spam level 10 or above. how do i do that?
09:13.18annmaset a filter
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09:14.55annmaAvailable filters should have Spam Assasssin
09:15.00tonzannma: okay, how would that look like?
09:15.12Ayumikosanim searching a way to set a application (wbar) in kde to alway background... someone a hint to do that?!
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09:19.28tonzi hate regex :(
09:20.04nicioMe tink he made a mistake,he had Jucato for jucaco in kubuntu
09:20.21annmatonz: http://lf.starlogik.de/kmail_spam.shtm
09:20.22Jucatoexcuse me?
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09:21.44tonzannma: yeah, thanks ;) it recognizes spam, thats okay, but i want to automatically delete it
09:22.01tonzannma: i have to figure out the right regular expression
09:22.20tonzprolly this \*{10}* ?
09:22.26annmaFilter out Spam: Define a new POP Filter: if the Spam-Flag is set: Download mail later or Delete mail from server (be careful with that)
09:22.32annmain the doc
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09:23.31tonzwell, i have severeal accounts, some pop, some imap
09:23.43tonzand recognition is okay
09:24.00tonzand your tip with the filter is right
09:24.40tonzi'll now have to figure out what is the regular expression for "10 asterisks and more" ;)
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09:24.52tonzas i said, i hate regular expressions
09:25.36annmagoogle is your friend
09:25.42annmagoogle knows everything
09:25.52annmajust be smart and type the correct search
09:26.06tonz:)
09:26.08tonzright
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09:29.30Jucatoannma knows more than google... at least about kde :)
09:29.37annmalol Jucato
09:29.45annmaI mostly ask google ;)
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09:30.13ElvanorAtWorkI want to setup helper programs for .html files
09:30.23ElvanorAtWork<PROTECTED>
09:30.31ElvanorAtWork(say, control + double click)
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09:38.17Jucatoso many canllaith's....
09:39.06canllait2my partner is configuring a new dsl modem :\
09:39.47Jucatooh :)
09:39.55JucatoI thought it was because of freenode too :)
09:40.11Jejemhee
09:40.14Jejem:
09:40.16Jejem:D
09:40.17JejemJucato =)
09:40.18Jejem*_*
09:40.21JucatoO.o
09:40.32Jejemlol
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09:42.12Jucatoapparently my fingers are too...
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09:48.26simmerz|workwhere do I put things that I want to run on startup?
09:49.01simmerz|workfor example, I've created a quick script that runs a couple of apps but where would I put that to make it run each time kde comes up for my user?
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09:50.40Jucatosimmerz|work: to autostart apps,you just need to leave them running when you logout. by default, they will be restarted (unless you've changed session management). if you want to use a script, put the script in ~/.kde/Autostart/ and make sure it's executable
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09:51.35contrast83Or just point Konqueror to ~/.kde/Autostart and drag and drop the apps from KMenu. :-)
09:52.04tonzuhm, how do i set up a filter that deletes mails in kmail?
09:53.40Jucatotonz: set the filter to move the mail to Trash?
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09:54.23simmerz|workJucato: doesn't work for wine apps
09:54.34simmerz|workso I suppose the script approach would work there
09:55.55Jucatoif the wine app has a .desktop file (an entry in K Menu) you can do as what contrast said
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09:57.20tonzJucato: :) they go to trash anyway, i want them to be deleted, gone, wiped away ...
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09:57.45tonzobviously this isn't possible :(
09:57.56censhi
09:58.51Jucatotonz: "Empty local trash folder on program exit"?
10:00.09tonzJucato: i wanted them not to linger around in my trash until i close kmail (which is only once in a while)
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10:00.20Jucatook... no idea then. sorry
10:00.45tonzJucato: thanks anyway ;)
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10:05.01Jucatowb Sho_ :)
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10:27.05benJImanJucato: Sounds like you want to turn ubuntu back into debian ^_^
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10:28.56alex^^can anyone tell me why my x11 is not booting in dual head monitors? http://pastebin.com/m63b38fa5
10:29.06RichiHis there any log file kde keeps when a user logs in? i getting kicked out shortly after i log in
10:29.18RichiHand i would want to debug this other than just moving .kde/ away
10:30.57alex^^can anyone tell me why my x11 is not booting in dual head monitors? http://pastebin.com/m63b38fa5   # its loading up x11 and both monitors have the same screen, and the desktop is not spanning across two monitors .... =/ ... can someone check my conf please
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10:31.58BadRobotHi there,i'm uisng OpenSuse 10.3 and i would to install KDE4,which packages should i install?
10:32.06BadRobotfor the base system
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10:35.21BadRobotVirtual Machine
10:36.26kar1kBadRobot: thanks
10:37.40JucatobenJIman: or into suse :P
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10:37.49Jucatos/rpm/deb/ :)
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11:07.21claudio_buongiorno..cortesemente qualcuno sa come far eseguire un programma automaticamente al boot di gentoo, come se fosse lanciato da un utente
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11:10.38thePunisherclaudio_: english plz, and if your question is strictly Gentoo related plz go here: #gentoo
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11:11.54claudio_is not gentoo strictly gentoo related..
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11:12.13thePunisherclaudio_: is it strictly kde :)?
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11:13.15claudio_yes is a kde program :-) however
11:13.33thePunisherclaudio_: could you repeat your question in english plz
11:14.07claudio_i would like to exe a program at boot time as user
11:14.27thePunisherwhen you login to kde you mean?
11:14.41claudio_for example.. auto exe of kopete at boot time as user
11:14.47claudio_no..at boot time
11:15.04claudio_boot..autologin of user...exe kopete
11:15.14thePunisherwell you have to be logged in into kde to start kopete...
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11:15.43claudio_of course...
11:15.59claudio_ok im not very good speaking english..i try to explain better
11:16.06thePunishernp
11:16.29claudio_my pc starts as ever..and starts kde with autologin of user claudio....
11:16.36elnovatillohello any player than displays movies in the Taskbar?
11:16.43thePunisherright, ok
11:17.02thePunisherthere are a few ways of doing that
11:17.20claudio_i would like to auto exe kopete as i exe it by myself with doubleclik
11:17.35thePunisheryes, I understand now
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11:17.47claudio_ok thanks
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11:18.49elnovatillohello?
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11:19.17thePunisherclaudio_: there are several ways of doing that. The easiest way is to drag menu entries (kopete from menu..) and create a link in ~/.kde/Autostart
11:20.19claudio_ok thanks
11:20.31thePunisherclaudio_: your welcome
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12:02.48elnovatilloHELO>?
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12:04.54spacenervehow do i tell if PEX is enabled in ktorrent?
12:05.24elnovatilloi want to play movies in the panel ?
12:05.52boom1992elnovatillo: write a plugin with a video widget ;-)
12:05.55elnovatilloi want to play movies in the panel , what player supports that?
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12:06.08elnovatillooh dammit, we dont have one yet?
12:06.18boom1992I don't know of one
12:06.28boom1992kde-apps.org
12:06.33boom1992perhaps there's one
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12:06.36boom1992BTW
12:06.50boom1992you shouldn't write a Kicker-Applet, better is a Plasmoid ;-)
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12:15.44Jucatocan Kate do macros?
12:15.55Sho_elnovatillo: kstart --tosystray mplayer <video>
12:16.08WorkRoeyJucato, not that I know of
12:16.09Sho_elnovatillo: That will put an MPlayer video window into your systray ;)
12:16.16Jucatohi WorkRoey!
12:16.20WorkRoeyKate is gr8 but eh, no macros ;)
12:16.22JucatoSho_: lol :)
12:16.25WorkRoeyhey Jucato!!
12:16.41WorkRoeypython support for kate macros would be cool
12:16.57Jucatooh well... :)
12:17.02Sho_Jucato: Totally nuts, but fun :)
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12:17.26WorkRoeyYa know what I want to see, Jucato?  a tilable tabbar widget.  Think 2x2 tabs
12:17.43JucatoO.o hehehe
12:17.55WorkRoeyJucato: like in Konqueror for example.
12:18.25WorkRoeyJucato:  btw, gnome's epiphany web browser now uses webkit for their html... imagine that, hehe :)
12:18.46Jucatoby default already? I thought it was just a plan/fork for now
12:19.06WorkRoeythey announced it now
12:19.07Sho_Jucato: No, the default is still Gecko
12:19.17WorkRoeySho_:  they said in their new release that they've swapped it
12:19.57Jucatowell they still haven't updated the front page :)
12:20.25Jucatoaaaanyway :)
12:21.52WorkRoeyoh my God, I was wrong!
12:21.55WorkRoeyit was GNOME, all along!
12:22.02WorkRoeywell you've finally made a monkey
12:22.05Jucatos/GNOME/Gecko/
12:22.06WorkRoey(yes we've finally made a monkey)
12:22.14WorkRoeyyes you've finally made a monkey out of meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
12:22.24Jucatowrong twice.. now you're a gutsy gibbon
12:22.25Jucato:P
12:22.37WorkRoeyJucato: from The Simpsons :)
12:22.43Jucatowell actually yes it's a GNOME app that uses Gecko :)
12:22.49WorkRoeyahh
12:24.35WorkRoeyso is webkit C++?
12:24.35Sho_WorkRoey: It does have a WebKit backend (using the GTK+ port of WebKit), but it's an optional alternative for now given that GTK+ WebKit is still fairly young
12:24.47Sho_WorkRoey: WebKit is a fork of KHTML, and KHTML is C++, yes
12:24.53Sho_Thus so is WebKit
12:25.08WorkRoeySho_:  after reading that 2.4 release notes I read somewhere the actual words "swapped in webkit"
12:25.23WorkRoeySho_:  what does GNOME feel about incorporating C++ code??
12:25.32WorkRoey(that's why I asked that)
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12:26.28Sho_WorkRoey: I don't know. Ask in #gnome
12:26.36WorkRoeyk
12:26.57WorkRoeyTomasu:  you know, there's an algorithm that sounds close to your nick
12:27.06WorkRoeyTomasulo's Algorithm
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12:39.43tuxickWorkRoey: have a look at the gtk+ documentation and tutorial, and cry
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12:44.02WorkRoeytuxick:  oh, it's toxic? :)
12:44.12WorkRoey(integrating C with C++ ?)
12:44.29WorkRoeytuxick:  it_seemed_very_confusing(the_first_time &i_read_it)
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12:45.34Jucatofirst time I took a look at GTK code (thanks to Sho_'s "encouragement"), I almost wanted to poke my eyes out...
12:45.40WorkRoey:)
12:45.43WorkRoeyaww
12:45.57WorkRoeyI forgot what they use instead of signals/slots
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12:46.20WorkRoey(in a grim voice, "human blood")
12:46.30JucatoI bet something that they will claim is "more C++-like" :)
12:46.31Jucatooh well
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12:47.44WorkRoeyque nuevas para ti
12:47.55WorkRoeyJucato, how do you say in Spanish "what's new with you?"
12:48.08WorkRoeyah
12:48.14WorkRoeyor Catalan or Portuguese
12:48.31Jucatoneither :)
12:48.34WorkRoeyah
12:48.36WorkRoeywait, no Spanish?
12:48.42JucatoI've told you already before :P
12:48.45WorkRoeyI thought your name was Juan Carlos Torres
12:49.03Sho_Jucato: I encouraged you to look at GTK code? o.O
12:49.06JucatoPhilippines... Spanish colony... before...
12:49.23WorkRoeyJucato: ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
12:49.24WorkRoeyok ok
12:49.27JucatoSho_: remember the problem with the Oxygen palette not being parsed correctly in Krita? :)
12:49.28tuxicklooking at gtk code is the best way to convince people to use kde :)
12:49.44Sho_Jucato: yes
12:50.10Sho_Jucato: But I fixed that, iirc
12:50.12Jucatoyou even told me where to get the code for that particular parser in the GIMP... just forgot now where :)
12:50.38JucatoSho_: actually we fixed the palette file... because of the diff between how GTK+ and Qt parses it...
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12:50.49Sho_Jucato: No, I fixed the parser in Krita
12:50.53Jucatoah yeah
12:50.58WorkRoeyJucato:  Ang okie mo amoy ng pussit!  Lola mong panot!  Masyado maliit ang suso mo!  Mangulangot ka na lang kaya!  Laway mo tumatalsik! hehehehehe (insultmonger.com)
12:51.06JucatoO.o
12:51.11Jucatolol
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12:51.13Sho_Jucato: And that was an app level code problem, not toolkit level
12:51.42JucatoSho_: it was? I thought it was because GTK+ used strtok vs. Qt
12:51.47Jucato(forgot the function)
12:52.06Jucatooh well.. that was so long ago :)
12:52.08Sho_Jucato: http://websvn.kde.org/branches/koffice/1.6/koffice/krita/core/kis_palette.cc?view=log
12:52.27Jucatoah yeah.... sorry, it was kis_palette :)
12:53.44Jucatoah yes, now I remember it all :)
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12:54.06Jucatoback then I only understood strtok... nothing about QStringList::split :P
12:54.49Jucatoand I still don't! :P
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12:56.49Sho_Jucato: So you were trying to fix it right now?
12:56.57Jucatono
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12:57.06JucatoI was just reminiscing :)
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13:20.25ma807hi
13:20.43ma807how can i mak kwin my default windows manager without using root
13:21.08ma807gl desktop messed it up for me and now i only have metacity running
13:23.13ma807please help
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14:13.00hw_Does anyone know whether KDE supports RGB555 properly?
14:14.05hw_Or whether KDE supports 15-bit Xserver...
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14:18.56eixwhat's the package which contains mcopidl?
14:19.33annmaask your distro channel
14:19.41annmadepends how they cut KDE
14:19.53eixannma: generically, where would you find it?
14:19.55annmayour distro should provide you a tool to find that
14:20.23annmaarts module in KDE
14:20.23eixannma: unfortunately there is no package containing mcopidl in the package name. I guess it comes with another package
14:20.34eixarts is for sound, correct?
14:20.35annmawhat package name?
14:20.50eixI just searched for *mcopidl* packages and there are nay
14:20.53eix*any
14:20.59annmano
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14:21.09annmathere are none such packages probably
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14:21.19annmayou must search the package that contains it
14:21.42eixannma: I am almost sure it's kde-base/arts
14:21.47annma?
14:21.52eixisn't arts related to the sound system?
14:21.55annmadepends on your distro as I said
14:21.56Jucatoarts
14:22.10annmaKDE has no such thing as kde-base/arts
14:22.16eixannma: of course.
14:22.16Jucatogentoo
14:22.16annmaI said arts already
14:22.19annmaboooh
14:22.25eixI am just asking if it is related to sound
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14:22.55eixok
14:22.57annmait's related to arts which is related to sound
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14:23.24Jucatowhich is already optional in KDE... but that's another topic :)
14:23.25eix"analog real-time synthesizer"
14:23.33Jucatooh crap.. I press Ctrl+L :(
14:23.47eixI am now wondering why I have to install arts to install the KOffice's keximdb :(
14:23.57eixthere should be a mini-package for mcopidl, I say
14:23.57annmaask your distro channel again
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14:24.07annmawe don't support distro stuff
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14:24.37annmafor building from kde svn you shoul dbuild with arts support but you can then disable arts
14:24.37eixannma: I was no more asking about the package. I was asking about aRTs.
14:24.43annmaread then
14:25.13eixannma: please reinsert the disk, it's looping
14:25.16annmathat's how you build KDE 3
14:25.26annmayou are looping
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14:26.24Jucato...
14:27.06annma<sigh>
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14:45.18Kalidarnthe wireless/ethernet systray icon what kde package does that ship with?
14:45.36Kalidarnie knemo type of thing
14:45.43Kalidarnexcept knemo isn't the official one is it
14:46.53annmaKalidarn: in KDE all network stuff is in kdenetwork module
14:47.01annmaKalidarn: KDE does nto ship packages
14:47.07annmaonly your distro does that
14:47.13Kalidarni meant the major tarballs
14:47.17annmaplease ask in your distro channel
14:47.27Kalidarnand yeah kdenetwork is the one :)
14:47.29annmakdenetwork as I said ships network stuff
14:47.51annmayour distro cuts that into pieces and also add other stuff
14:47.57Kalidarn;)
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14:48.48Kalidarnam i getting mixed up with kde 4 :)
14:49.00Kalidarnim sure there was one with that
14:49.30Jucatoactually
14:49.33annmaknetworkmanager
14:49.41Jucatoknemo, knetstats and knetload are all part of KDE Extragear
14:49.50annmathe thing I found so un-intuitive
14:49.55Kalidarnah yeah :)
14:50.02fredIt just doesn't support enough different types of connections for me :p
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14:50.18Kalidarnmm knemo is ethernet only isnt it
14:50.27Kalidarnor does it show wireless signal as well
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14:50.35fredI think it shows wireless /traffic/
14:50.38frednot signal strength
14:50.41Kalidarnah k
14:50.42fredkwifimanager can show the strength
14:50.43Jucatohm.. only kentworkmanager shows signal strength afaik
14:50.49Jucatooh there...
14:50.49Kalidarnyeh figured
14:51.02fred(which is actually part of kdenetwork)
14:51.15Kalidarnmm yeah i dont use them for configuration ;)
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14:51.28fredThat's what konsole's for :)
14:51.30Kalidarnonly wanted one to keep an eye on the wireless signal especially when roaming around ;)
14:51.32annmathe Gnome tool is awful for network
14:51.34Kalidarnyeah well :P
14:51.54Kalidarnfred, ;) i set all mine up in my gentoo configs
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14:53.33Kalidarnive got all my wireless set up with wpa_supplicant
14:53.34Kalidarnanyway
14:53.37fredknetworkmanager currently really doesn't do the 3g or pptp vpn well enough yet (except on suse, which hooks it up into yast)
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14:56.33Kalidarni don't reckon there's a substitute for pan though in KDE :P
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14:56.44Kalidarnnever seen a better nzb/news reader than pan
14:57.24Kalidarni wonder if there's a qt4 one
14:58.20KalidarnKLibido doesn't look too bad
14:58.52Jucatoknode, klibido
14:59.03annmaKLibidi is a news reader?
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14:59.41Kalidarnheh ;)
14:59.41Jucato(sorry, had to hijack a bot)
14:59.50Kalidarnyeh cept its unmaintained ;)
14:59.59Kalidarnmarch 2006 so i hope that isnt too bad ;P
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15:00.24Kalidarni think it was bnr2 i tried which i had bad experiences with
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15:01.05Jucatoah no.. akregator only works w/ feeds it seems...
15:01.24Kalidarnyeh thats like that life thing in gnome isn't it ;) a RSS reader.
15:01.38Jucatoliferea
15:01.46Kalidarnlol im forgetful today
15:01.51Jucato(w/c sucks, imho...)
15:02.29Kalidarnits funny how much epiphany sucks in comparison to konqueror
15:02.40Kalidarnkonqueror is even khtml so that makes it sexier.
15:03.12profoX`can I make it so that I cannot view the passwords plaintext in KWallet unless I give the master password at the moment I click "show passwords" (like the option in firefox does)
15:03.13spawn57i'm trying out akregator atm, setting up all my feeds righ tnow
15:03.30spawn57..konq is moving to webkit
15:03.50spawn57I know that's a good thing, but I feel sad that there's no more khtml :(
15:04.12Kalidarnsafari is khtml :P
15:04.14profoX`spawn57: I don't think that's a sure thing
15:04.33profoX`Kalidarn: khtml fork yes (webkit)
15:04.41spawn57profoX`: oh
15:04.43Kalidarnyes i just read it ;)
15:04.44spawn57a fork?
15:04.52Jucatospawn57: that's not decided yet
15:05.02Kalidarnyeh webkit is a fork
15:05.13Jucato(please be careful with (mis)statements like that... might throw others off the wrong path)
15:05.24spawn57Kalidarn:  safari isn't quite khtml, they they took khtml, worked on it for 2 years by themsevles and came out with webkit
15:05.37Kalidarnyeh
15:06.04spawn57Jucato: ah, cool, I hope I they keep going but I hope they keep up with webkit or surpass it
15:06.47Jucatospawn57: it's Trolltech that's doing most of the Webkit activity these days (porting webkit to qt)
15:06.48profoX`They should just adopt webkit, but first iron out some small problems that KHTML doesn't have but Webkit does
15:07.08spawn57Jucato: oh
15:07.12spawn57for 4.4 right?
15:07.24Jucatoprolly
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15:16.31KotBehemothello
15:16.48KotBehemotcan anybody tell me how to set d3lphin as a default file manager?
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15:17.02annmain kde3?
15:17.08KotBehemotmhm
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15:17.54Jucato"If you would like to make Konqueror your default file manager again, go to Konqueror - Settings menu - Configure Konqueror - File Associations and change the association for inode/directory and inode/system_directory to Konqueror at the top rather than Dolphin."
15:18.00JucatoKotBehemot: ^^^ just do the reverse
15:18.35KotBehemotaha i see:)
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15:19.33JucatoKotBehemot: just keep in mind that d3lphin on KDE 3 is far cry from the real Dolphin which is in KDE 4
15:19.40Jucato<-------------------------------------------------------> that far :)
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15:20.27Jucatoannma: what discussion have I started? O.o
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15:20.46KotBehemotJucato: but if i try to open trash
15:20.46annmalol Jucato
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15:20.50profoX`I want my KWallet to never show plaintext passwords unless I give my master password at the moment I ask to show them plaintext, is there a way to do that?
15:20.52KotBehemoti have an error
15:20.59KotBehemotbad URL trash;/
15:21.06Jucatoannma: just because of "kwin" :P
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15:21.27KotBehemotJucato: and how can i fix this bad url?
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15:21.38annmaKotBehemot: it never worked?
15:21.42JucatoprofoX`: not without modifying the code...  I think
15:21.43annmaor it just broke?
15:21.45profoX`KotBehemot: trash;/ ? that should be trash:/ right?
15:21.51annmatrash:/
15:21.51KotBehemotyeah
15:21.55KotBehemoti'm sorry trash:/
15:22.04annmaKotBehemot: it never worked?
15:22.10KotBehemotnope
15:22.21JucatoKotBehemot: have you tried typing it in D3lphin directly?
15:22.32KotBehemotno
15:22.45Jucatohm... I wonder if marrat ever put in my patch...
15:22.52profoX`Jucato: would a patch be welcome for that before the KDE 4.0 release or is that frozen already
15:22.57KotBehemotnot working
15:23.03JucatoprofoX`: not really sure... sorry
15:23.09KotBehemot;/
15:23.16annmaprofoX`: in kde4 we are in feature freeze
15:23.18KotBehemotoh
15:23.22KotBehemotnow it is working
15:23.29KotBehemotif i type
15:23.37KotBehemotin d3lphin this trash:/
15:23.48annmaprofoX`: trash:/ works in dolphin kde4
15:23.51Jucatoannma: even kdeutils?
15:24.06annmaany module
15:24.11annmaany released module
15:24.15Jucatoah
15:24.21annmatrash:/ works OK
15:24.29KotBehemotbut KIOexec still says bad url
15:24.39Jucato:P
15:24.43KotBehemotif i have an applet of trash on panel
15:25.00Jucatocan't really help you there.... dunno what magic kubuntu did to make it work...
15:25.13KotBehemoti don' use kubuntu
15:25.14KotBehemotbut gentoo
15:25.16KotBehemot;-p
15:25.21KotBehemotah i see
15:25.28KotBehemotwhat did they do on kubuntu:)
15:25.29KotBehemotok
15:25.31JucatoI know. but Kubuntu uses D3lphin by default
15:25.35KotBehemotyeah i know
15:25.40Jucato(silly..)
15:25.40KotBehemotsorry:)
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15:25.56spawn57what? it does?
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15:26.05KotBehemotyeah:)
15:26.12KotBehemothave to ask than those devs
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15:26.31spawn57i upgraded from fesity, konqueror is still default :)
15:26.58profoX`nyea
15:27.07profoX`first thing I did was remove dolphin in kubuntu
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15:29.01RoeyprofoX`:  heh
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15:31.09KotBehemotheh no one answering on #kubuntu-devel for my question;/
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15:33.57spawn57give a mailing list a shot
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15:45.52ElvanorAtWork<ElvanorAtWork> I want to setup helper programs for .html files
15:45.52ElvanorAtWork<ElvanorAtWork> Do you know how I could open these files with a double click on a text editor, but ona browser with another key combination?
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15:48.38profoX`umm, is there a way to compile only 1 'module' of kde-utils?
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15:50.21Jucatoonly (ugly?) way I know of is using the DO_NOT_COMPILE env var...
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15:56.14profoX`Jucato: meh, i'll just compile all..
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16:08.27ICQnumberwhats kde4's birthdate :-P
16:09.05Jucatowhen it's born :)
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16:09.46ICQnumberwhen it will be
16:10.01Jucatohttp://techbase.kde.org for the schedule
16:10.07Jucatotarget: December
16:10.35ICQnumberdamn i was thinking this month
16:10.47TobiasTheCommiealready in december
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16:11.16TobiasTheCommiehm, that was a nice surprise
16:11.34Jucatowell, it is the *target* :)
16:12.47TobiasTheCommiestill
16:12.54TobiasTheCommiei thought the target was much later than that
16:13.00TobiasTheCommiethat is what i get for not keeping track eh?
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16:13.10Jucatowho knows... it might still change :)
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16:13.19Jucatoit's just November...
16:13.28TobiasTheCommiehm, will the target have win32 and mac os x binaries as well? or will that come later?
16:13.34TobiasTheCommienot that i'm really going to use it, jut wondering
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16:19.01Hijackerhi all... is someone here experiencing issues with basket and gpg encryption of single baskets, too? i just encrypted one with my gpg key and then - for whatever reason - didn't want to accept my (correct) passphrase. evolution does accept it for encrypting emails. also, if you enter a phrase, press ok in pinentry and it comes up again since it think it's wrong, you can't "Cancel" it. it will pop up again after you cancel everyti
16:19.01Hijackerme. even more, after cancelling like 10-15times, half of the basket appears. some texts and formats are missing, some are there (basket 1.0.2 on gentoo)
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16:27.22FrostByteCan someone explain or at least point me in the right direction, how I can make KNetwork Manager keep my WPA pass phrase ( so I do not have to enter it every single time ) as well as how to make a specific wireless AP the default?
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16:59.36DrSlonyHelp, digiman wont let me delete files (Im using Gnome). It says "Could not rename file". Google tells me to create a link "ln -s ~/.Trash/ ~/Desktop/Trash" but then I have 2 trash cans on the desktop. How can I fix it without having 2 trash cans?\
16:59.41DrSlony*digikam
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17:17.50FrostByteCan someone explain or at least point me in the right direction, how I can make KNetwork Manager keep my WPA pass phrase ( so I do not have to enter it every single time ) as well as how to make a specific wireless AP the default?
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17:24.30annmaFrostByte: is KNetworkManager the network tool of your distro?
17:24.45annmaif so ask in #yourdistro channel
17:24.54FrostByteyes
17:25.00FrostByteheh
17:25.07FrostByteisnt KNetwork Manager a KDE tool?
17:25.30annmaI don't think it's KDE official
17:25.41benJImanNo, it is in kde svn though, and most kde distros use it.
17:25.58annmawell I don't have it in kde3
17:26.00annmaso, no
17:26.12annmabesides I found it un-intuitive
17:26.20benJImanIt's in kde svn so you could though.
17:26.33annmamaybe in extragear
17:26.44benJImanFrostByte: knetworkmanager will use kwallet if it's installed
17:26.46benJImanand enabled
17:26.51benJImanto store your passphrases etc
17:26.57annmaone cannot get all kde things and I suppose we devels use iwconfig and such
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17:27.30benJImanClicking on the network one wants is easier.
17:27.47FrostBytebenJIman: doesnt seem to work the way I am use to. It askes for the password to open KWallet to use the stored password.
17:27.49annmaiwconfig eth1 key <your_key>
17:27.55FrostByteits a cluster fubar for some reason
17:28.06benJImanFrostByte: you can grant it permission to always access the wallet if yo udon't want to be asked.
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17:28.37FrostBytebenJIman: not sure how to do that, but I will snoop around.
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17:28.57benJImanFrostByte: Well it asks you the first time.
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17:29.11elnovatillohello, any applet to watch movies in the taskbar??
17:29.23FrostByteI must have not checked, or unchecked, or something when it asked
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17:29.29FrostBytebecause it asks every single time still
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17:29.34benJImanFrostByte: configure wallet -> access control
17:29.44benJImanSet policy for knetworkmanager to always allow.
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17:30.01FrostByteyeah I opened wallet to try to fix it
17:30.04FrostByteand it is empty
17:30.07FrostByte:(
17:30.24benJImanRight click the kwalletmanager tray icon -> confiure -> access control (tab)
17:30.30benJImanthen add knetworkmanager always allow
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17:30.48FrostByteok
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17:36.17DrSlonyHelp, in Digikam I deleted many images and now I see that they still exist on disk, they were only deleted from the album. How can I synchronize the album with my disk so that those that were deleted from the album get removed from disk?
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17:39.40FrostBytebenJIman: that may have worked
17:39.44FrostBytethank you for helping
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17:47.24smarterHi
17:47.38smarterI'm having trouble trying to compile kdelibs from svn
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17:48.31smarterhttp://rafb.net/p/4QE3IE35.html
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17:51.44annmasmarter: what kde?
17:51.50annmawhat kdelibs I mean
17:51.59smarterannma: from trunk
17:52.28annmafirst build ever?
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17:52.33smarterannma: nop
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17:52.44chimaerahi, where would i configure a special button like "suspend" within KDE? i have to put my computer to suspend mode using the shutdown-dialog whereas the suspend-button is working with gnome.
17:53.00smarterannma: I get this error with amarok svn too
17:53.42annmaamarok svn?
17:53.45annmatrunk?
17:53.51smarterannma: yeah
17:54.02annmayou cannot build it without kdelibs
17:54.08smarterannma: I know
17:54.13annmaso?
17:54.15smarterannma: but I already had compiled kdelibs
17:54.23annmayou already had?*
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17:54.28smarterit's just a rebuild
17:55.08annmaI suggest you rm the build dir
17:55.13annmaand retry
17:55.16BlackJhow long does a kde4 compilation with an average modern computer (AMD 3,2 GHz, 2 GB RAM) approximately take
17:55.30smarterannma: I try that
17:55.34BlackJI want to try it and help the kde team with hutning bugs but never did this before
17:55.34smarter*I'll
17:55.48annmaBlackJ: do you have kde4?
17:55.54annmalive CD or anything?
17:56.04BlackJvirtualbox
17:56.16BlackJI forgott: the virtualbox actually gets only 1 gb ram
17:56.21BlackJdebian is the system
17:56.25annmaBlackJ: then you can come on Saturday on #kde4-krush
17:56.30BlackJdebian testing
17:56.40BlackJwhat is there?
17:56.45annmaa debug day
17:56.53BlackJaha
17:56.55annmayou can see if you can reproduce bugs
17:56.56KomzpaBlackJ: at 1500mhz/1gb it took me 7 hours to get kdelibs/kdebase/kdenetwork on gentoo
17:57.07BlackJthanks Komzpa
17:57.17annmaI can paste you the link of the already existing page BlackJ
17:57.30BlackJwould be kind
17:57.32BlackJ:)
17:57.38annmahttp://techbase.kde.org/Contribute/Bugsquad/KrushDays
17:57.44BlackJI never did this before but want to help the kde team a little bit
17:57.54annma:)
17:58.07annmayou're exactly someone we need
17:58.08BlackJtahnks
17:58.23BlackJfirst I have to see if I get it working ;)
17:58.29annma:)
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18:12.13smarterHow to get back the nice color in cmake builds?
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18:12.54smarterann_dinner: I've just rebuilded kdelibs from scratch and I'm still seeing the build error
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19:42.59CruXhi all whats the name of bitmap image editor for kde ? not krita
19:42.59Freakingmegimp ?
19:43.04CruXthat was something like mspaint for win
19:43.12CruXnot gimp
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19:43.42annmakpaint?
19:43.47annmaguessing here
19:43.50thiago_homeno, it's kolourpaint
19:44.11CruXgreat ! thx thiago_home
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19:47.32annmathiago_home: ;)
19:47.44annmaI did not make the effort of thinking
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19:49.34troyFreakingme: not many KDE people use the GIMP anymore... Krita really has come such a long way that for some use cases, it's already surpassed the GIMP...
19:49.54Freakingmeinteresting, never had a look at it
19:50.36troyFreakingme: for example, every time there's a gimp release, people are complaining how it doesn't handle more than 8bits/channel, or some exotic colourspace - but Krita does :P
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19:51.43Freakingmeyeah well, I'm a scripter, not a designer (not that I never design anything). But as up to today I never missed a feature in GIMP. But I just looked at krita, and it displayed only one window :D :P
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19:52.22troyFreakingme: hahaha, oh, there is that :P
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19:53.02troyFreakingme: I'm not sure how it's handled in 1.6.x (the stable version of Krita), but I know that the 2.x development series permits scripting in javascript, python and ruby so far...
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19:53.38CruXkolourpaint is great for me, best tool for editing black/white 1 bit bmp files
19:54.00troyCruX: lineart from scanners?
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19:54.58CruXtroy: no i am developping firmware for one board which have LCD display with 128x64 pixels
19:55.27troyCruX: oh cool :) How long until we can run KDE on it :P
19:56.06CruXlol, long long future :)
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19:56.14serenityhi
19:56.35serenityis it possible to have a fix order of symbols in my tray?
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19:59.02serenityhmm, but would be nice to have
19:59.47troyserenity: if such a feature would be implemented, it would have such a narrow use case that it'd likely not be implemented with a GUI - maybe with a config file - the reason being that no one would want to maintain it :)
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20:15.52KRFopen http://www.lissi.film.de/ in konqueror - then have a look at the tab - is it supposed to be this way? :P
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20:16.16KRF(you must open at least two tabs
20:16.18niltonhi. is there some way i can export an environment variable before kde is started, so that all programs opened in kde will see this variable?
20:17.18KRFnilton, create a file in ~/.kde/env, then write something like "export FOO=BAAR" in it
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20:18.42niltonKRF: ~/.kde/env must be a file or a directory with some other file in it?
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20:18.50KRFanswer two
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20:19.13KRFand dont forget to chmod +x
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20:19.58niltonthanks
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20:22.39thechefKonqueror search doesn't seem to follow shortcuts/symlinks by default. I can't find the option to switch that,
20:22.39thechefWhere can I switch that?
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20:26.09chlueHello is there a way to persuade kde to use a trashfolder on the partition where the data was instead of copying everything to .local/share/Trash? I read something about creating a .trash-uid directory on the partition but a quick check failed.
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20:32.15vampirefroghi. In konqueror, how do I login to a ftp address if the ftp username has a '@' in it? if I don't pass a username, anonymous login occurs, so the dialog which asks me for username doesn't pop up
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20:33.09Freakingmevampirefrog you could try to escape \ it. But not sure if that's gonna work
20:33.19vampirefroghm
20:33.21vampirefrogok
20:34.01vampirefrognope
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20:34.21vampirefrogusing "foo@bar"@ftp.server doesn't work either
20:34.34vampirefrogftp://"foo@bar"@ftp.server
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20:36.07SimAtWorkdo vampire frogs prey on regular frogs
20:36.13SimAtWorkor will they eat any animal?
20:36.26vampirefrogthey prey on you if you don't help me ftp login >:)
20:36.37SeicherlBoBhi there! my Knetworkmanager wont let me set up vpns. i installed the plugins for vpnc and openvpn, now i see the option to set up VPNs in the menu, but when i click it, nothing happens. any suggestions why?
20:36.37SimAtWorkwill that turn me into a vampire frog
20:36.40SimAtWorkor a regular vampire?
20:36.46Freakingmehow about getting a username/pass with 'normal' characters?
20:36.55vampirefrogFreakingme: it's for someone else :P
20:37.03SimAtWorkvampirefrog: use "user:password@ftp.irc.com"
20:37.20vampirefrogSimAtWork: you may switch between the two at any time :D
20:37.29vampirefroghm
20:37.31SimAtWorkconvenient
20:37.42SimAtWorkvampirefrog: oh, and ftp://
20:38.07vampirefrognope
20:38.16vampirefrogdidn't work
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20:38.28vampirefrogyou did understand that instead of 'user' i have to use an email
20:38.30vampirefrogyes?
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20:40.26kristjan_omfg wtf
20:40.26vampirefrogah crud
20:40.26SeicherlBoBwhat the hack happend here?
20:40.26vampirefrogomfg = oh my frog?
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20:40.26vampirefrog:D
20:40.26kristjan_vampirefrog: what's up with freenode?
20:40.26shwouchkfor some reaon In konqueror I only have an option to create a 'link to device' (under 'create new')... how can I fix that?
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20:40.26vampirefrognetsplit mate
20:40.30vampirefrogthe net splits like a poor quality hair
20:40.46kristjan_vampirefrog: is it? why so often?
20:40.54kristjan_vampirefrog: and what is "kubrick.freenode.net"
20:40.58vampirefroggoogle mate
20:41.05vampirefrogi think it's just the way irc works
20:41.11SeicherlBoBmy Knetworkmanager wont let me set up vpns. i installed the plugins for vpnc and openvpn, now i see the option to set up VPNs in the menu, but when i click it, nothing happens. any suggestions why?
20:41.13vampirefrogand this is a way to reduce the load of the servers
20:41.17kristjan_I haven't seen it working so ofting
20:41.24kristjan_*often
20:41.25vampirefrogkristjan_: live and learn
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20:41.59kristjan_anyways, I came here to ask if kde-look.org is slow for all?
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20:46.51vampirefrogI just wanna know how to disable anonymous ftp in konqueror
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20:47.18pinotreevampirefrog: konqueror is not an ftp server
20:47.48vampirefrogpinotree: I mean how do I disable anonymous login. I want to be asked for a username and password every time
20:47.59pinotreethen specify it?
20:48.12vampirefrogI can't, the username has an '@' in it
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20:48.15pinotreeif the server does not allow anonymous login, it will reject it
20:48.26vampirefrogthe server does allow it
20:48.27pinotree@ = %40
20:48.31vampirefrogah
20:48.34vampirefroglet me try that
20:49.05pinotreevampirefrog: just one thing: do not ask strange question, just ask directly about the problem you have ;)
20:50.30vampirefrogah, it worked, but only if I also specify the password in the address field...
20:50.39vampirefrogthanks
20:50.39vampirefroggah
20:50.39vampirefrognot that again
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20:50.40SeicherlBoBmy Knetworkmanager wont let me set up vpns. i installed the plugins for vpnc and openvpn, now i see the option to set up VPNs in the menu, but when i click it, nothing happens. any suggestions why? (Versions: KnetW.: 0.1, KDE 3.5.6)
20:50.40Qhestionhi. is Jos Poortvliet here?
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20:51.13Qhestionis Jos Poortvliet here?
20:51.27Nylehi
20:51.37Nylehow does one turn off popup blocking in konqueror totally
20:51.45Nylethere are some I need to see and they keep getting blocked
20:52.15kirunctrl-click the link?
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20:53.54mxttiei am using knemo as network monitor, but i can't rightclick anymore on the icon in the systray to get a context menu. is it a known bug..?
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20:54.32Nyleok, I don't have a printer hooked up and I need to save all the infomation in the popup.  The popup has a print this page button.  How can I make a virtual printer in kde so that I can print to a pdf file or some other document format
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20:54.46Nylekirun: I will try that
20:55.22mxttieNyle, i seem to have a pdf printer preinstalled, but it doesnt work.. :)
20:56.01mxttiei guess you can add it yourself by adding a pseudo printer
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20:56.22troyNyle: if the PDF printer exists, use that one (it should work on most distros)
20:56.33Nylemxttie: which printer system were you using?
20:56.38SeicherlBoBmy Knetworkmanager wont let me set up vpns. i installed the plugins for vpnc and openvpn, now i see the option to set up VPNs in the menu, but when i click it, nothing happens. any suggestions why? (Versions: KnetW.: 0.1, KDE 3.5.6)
20:56.38Nyleand did you have it installed and configured?
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20:57.03mxttieNyle, i think it is cups, but i didn't install anything as i don't have a printer
20:57.04Nylebe fedault kubuntu comes with cups
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20:58.13mxttieok, i also have cups installed
20:58.13Qhestionlast saturday (3rd of november) i attended a presentation on the german Linux-Info-Tag (Dresden). there was an (english) presentation of Jos. where do i find the slides? it had images like that one: http://bp3.blogger.com/_uykUGdiPttw/RyToMRF8OHI/AAAAAAAAAHY/CYC3MpiSCvw/s1600-h/small2.png
20:59.58mxttiehey, that's funny. yesterday my pdfprinter didn't work, today it does!
20:59.59mxttieyay =)
21:00.10troyQhestion: Jos van den oever or Jos porsvelt (spelling?)
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21:00.24QhestionPoortvliet
21:00.29Qhestionhttp://behindkde.org/people/jos/
21:00.46troyQhestion: best to just email him, as I don't think he's thrown them online anywhere yet :)
21:00.54Qhestionok
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21:01.13Qhestionand he wont bite me if i email him?
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21:01.51troyQhestion: no, he's pretty friendly, unless you start flaming KDE in dot comments or something :P
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21:02.23Qhestiontroy: flaming KDE?? what??? i love kde !!!
21:02.27troyQhestion: actually though, that particular image comes from Wade Olson (look for his blog on planetkde.org) :)
21:02.34Qhestionyes, i know
21:02.41Qhestionbut Jos held the presentation
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21:04.58mxttieNyle, about adding a pdf printer, you have to choose "add special printer" and then check the command
21:05.04mxttiethen you can choose convert to pdf
21:05.13mxttieactually "pdf writer"
21:05.26Nylei got it
21:05.31mxttieok :)
21:05.32Nyleits fine, beautiful pdf file
21:05.37Nylethank you for your input
21:05.40mxttiepretty nifty huh
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21:05.51mxttieyou're welcome
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21:06.13troyhrmm, KDE 4 has the print to pdf stuff built into QPrinter... no need to make a virtual printer and all that...
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21:06.56Qhestionhmm where do i find his email address?
21:07.05Qhestionand yes, i DID try google
21:07.13troyhang on, I'll get it for you from my inbox :)
21:07.36SeicherlBoBmy Knetworkmanager wont let me set up vpns. i installed the plugins for vpnc and openvpn, now i see the option to set up VPNs in the menu, but when i click it, nothing happens. any suggestions why? (Versions: KnetW.: 0.1, KDE 3.5.6)
21:08.58fredSeicherlBoB: distribution-specific
21:09.01fredknetworkmanager isn't part of kde
21:09.09troyQhestion: check your pvt messages :)
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21:09.34troyroot__: don't go on IRC as root!
21:09.41SeicherlBoBfred: i'm running Kubuntu feisty. Any ideas why the vpn-config wont start?
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21:09.54fredTry a kubuntu channel?
21:10.04troySeicherlBoB: #kubuntu
21:10.05fredtroy: KDE3 had one by default too
21:10.15fred(a pdf printer)
21:10.28SeicherlBoBfred: i thought it was kde-specific. i'm trying #kubuntu beside anyway...
21:10.36SeicherlBoBfred: thanks anyway1
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21:14.30chlueHello is there a way to persuade kde to use a trashfolder on the partition where the data was instead of copying everything to .local/share/Trash?
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21:19.57Qhestionok, sent the email. thanks --> troy.
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21:38.09alexertechhi everybody! i hate the appareance of the Kde Notifications... there is any way to make this look more clean and soft ?
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21:41.00pinotreekde control center → sound & multimedia → notifications?
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21:46.31alexertechpinotree, i wanna change the appareance of the notifications
21:46.37alexertechnot disabled it
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21:47.52pinotreealexertech: "appearance"? you mean the passive popups?
21:48.01alexertechpicca, yep
21:48.16pinotree(i'n not picca ;) )
21:48.25alexertechsorry
21:48.33alexertechtab :p
21:48.35alexertechjejeje
21:48.38alexertechpinotree, yep :p
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22:15.58mxttiewhen i try to select text until the end of a mail in KMail, it doesn't work! i press ctrl+shift+end
22:16.16mxttiedoes that normally work? :)
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22:18.30mxttieheh, i just discovered i have to press del twice! in kwrite too!
22:18.36mxttieis that normal..? :)
22:18.48mxttieeuh, i mean press end twice
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22:23.18metalfanis it possible to exit a specific konqueror instance and then reload it at its old state?
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22:26.06leoleinHello. I have a important question. Plese, can i speak german?
22:26.35leoleinMaybe it is a bug in KDEconfig
22:26.43pinotreewhat is the important question?
22:27.14leoleinI can't speak enough english to tell you this problem
22:27.25pinotreetry, we won't shoot you
22:28.00mxttiepinotree, would you happen to know the answer to my important question? :p ;)
22:28.26leoleinBut i will also understand your answers.... okay, i will try it
22:29.00mxttieis having to press the end key twice normal ?
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22:29.46pinotreemxttie: nope, sorr
22:29.47pinotreey
22:29.59mxttieit is not normal? or you don't know? :)
22:30.06mxttiei guess it's not normal
22:30.10leoleinI have installed the wacom-driver for my wacom-grafik-tablet. After this, KDE/X make always restart when i have logged in.
22:30.21leoleinI have also a solution.
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22:31.38leoleinI use Sidux with Xorg7.3 and KDE-3.5.8
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22:32.26leoleinThe file kcminputrc in ~/.kde/share/config make this Problem
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22:32.40pinotreewhy do you think so?
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22:33.03leoleinAnd not only by me in my Sidux with this Xorg and KDE
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22:35.21leoleinWell, i have rename /.kde and than i have cpoy file for file in an new .kde ..... til i have found the causer (I don't know if this word correctly)
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22:36.09leoleinAnd only this file is blame for the disaster
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22:37.53leoleinWell i have delete this file... and allt-time my wacom run correctly and all other thins too
22:38.42leoleinBut I would like to know, why. ;) What in this file is wrong.
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22:41.14leoleinpinotree: Are you here?
22:41.27pinotreeyes, but cannot comment, as i don't have a tablet
22:42.51leoleinpinotree: But you know, what this file have to use... or what is the task of this file...
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22:45.50leoleinI think its a Problem of KDE/X - not a problem of tablet
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22:50.29acid-tripstupid question how do you install themes
22:50.29acid-triplol
22:50.49leoleinKDE themes?
22:50.55acid-tripya
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22:51.21leoleinHm...
22:51.34leoleinI use compiz-fusion too.
22:52.02leoleinBut it is a separatly thin, right?
22:52.07pinotreedid you try disabling it?
22:52.42feindbildhi ^^
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22:53.47leoleinNo. Because i think compiz is not KDE. And after deleting this file, all-time run... compiz too.
22:53.56feindbildis it possible to configure konqueror not to read a specified directory until it's entered? I wan't to prevent drives from unnecessarily waking up ...
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22:54.18dattenaloha leolein :)
22:54.29leolein:)
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22:55.56leoleinpinotree: I can try this tomorrow when you will so
22:56.15pinotreeme what?
22:56.30pinotreei don't use compiz, nor have a tablet
22:56.40dattenleolein, the problem is, as you start KDE it will crash/restart, if you use an old kcminputrc in ~/.kde/share/config
22:57.40leoleinpinotree: When the file exist... and i (datteen was heisst ausstecken?)....
22:58.04pinotreeno german for me, sorry
22:58.05dattenleolein, so, ~/.kde/share/config/kcminputrc is the Problem with your wacom Tablet
22:58.22dattenleolein, plug off/out
22:58.31leoleindatten: This i have say to pinotree
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22:59.17leoleinpinotree: When the file exist and i plug off the tablet... KDE run.
22:59.36pinotreedid you check the Xorg logs?
22:59.42leoleinYes.
22:59.43dattenleolein, opps, a strange Problem oO
22:59.47pinotreedid you try running eg gnome, xfce or other?
22:59.48leoleinNo entry for this
23:00.11leoleinpinotree: With fluxbox all run... all all-time
23:00.53leoleinWith fluxbox the tablet run prefect and all other things
23:01.04dattenleolein, Fluxbox, you are more a G33k girl than i thought :)
23:01.48leoleindatten: you are really suprised? ;)
23:01.54leolein+r
23:01.58dattenso the problem is definitly in ~/.kde/share/config/kcminputrc
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23:02.59dattenleolein, could you show ~/.kde/share/config/kcminputrc in pastebin? phpfi.com maybe
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23:03.39leoleinYes i have the file paste yesterday.. one moment please
23:03.50dattenleolein, no one of the kde devs are here that i know, who can speak german :\
23:04.21leoleindatten: Now, it is no more importent to speak german ;)
23:04.32leolein*important
23:04.52leoleinHere is my kcminputrc http://paste.debian.net/41716
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23:05.51leoleinAnd; In an new .kde.... after rename /.kde... there is not a new file names kcminputrc.
23:06.37dattenleolein, this should not affect your Tablet, but it does, so only a kde-dev could tell you more about that :\
23:06.38leoleinI don't know, why and for what explicit this file will create
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23:07.05dattenGraveDigger, *wink* *g*
23:07.14leolein;)
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23:07.50GraveDiggero_O
23:07.58GraveDiggerdatten?
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23:08.00GraveDiggerleolein?
23:08.03leoleinGraveDigger:!
23:08.12dattenGraveDigger, bin da *wuschel* :)
23:08.14leoleinHello GraveDigger!
23:08.37leoleinGraveDigger: I have a Problem to report!
23:08.42leolein;)
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23:09.32dattenleolein, i don't think GraveDigger is the right one for your problem :)
23:10.18leolein*sad*
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23:11.31dattenGraveDigger, is cool and knows a lot, but i don't think he knows much about ~/.kde/share/config/kcminputrc and wacom tablets :)
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