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| 00:01.39 | Dar1us | a |
| 00:01.54 | Dar1us | also, I tried the example at freedesktop.org and it gets put in lost & found :( |
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| 00:20.46 | Dar1us | hmm |
| 00:21.16 | Dar1us | so I find that if I edit /usr/local/etc/xdg/menus/kde-applications.menu and specifically add an entry for my menu file it works. It apepars that <DefaultMergeDirs/> is not doing what I expect |
| 00:21.21 | Dar1us | anyone awake? :) |
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| 00:22.17 | Dar1us | indeed.. if I add <MergeDir>applications-merged</MergeDir> it works |
| 00:22.54 | Dar1us | the question is.. what controls DefaultMergeDirs? |
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| 00:27.49 | Dar1us | ahah! |
| 00:28.03 | Dar1us | it needs to go in ~/.config/menus/kde-applications-merged |
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| 00:29.23 | Dar1us | seems a bit of an odd choice though TBH |
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| 01:26.47 | arrrghhh | does anyone have a list of all the programs (or at least some) that can be used to render desktop backgrounds? (like xearth and xplanet...) |
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| 01:30.34 | arrrghhh | no? |
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| 01:37.07 | AmyRose | arrrghhh: Not that I know of |
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| 02:08.35 | njdube | What themes do I need to make KDE 3 look like KDE 4? So far all I have is the Oxygen icon theme. |
| 02:09.14 | tanamo | kde 4 wallpapers |
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| 02:10.40 | njdube | tanamo, My focus right now is on "Style" and "Window Decorations". |
| 02:11.02 | njdube | Also the panel. |
| 02:12.02 | njdube | I'm on openSUSE 10.2 and I'm using the openSUSE Menu Style instead of the K Menu style. The suse menu some what looks like what the one in KDE 4 is going to look like. |
| 02:13.27 | tanamo | and why do you want to do that anyway? why not just use kde4 then? |
| 02:13.56 | njdube | tanamo, It;s still in beta. |
| 02:14.55 | njdube | tanamo, I tried installing it on my sisters notebook on openSUSE 10.3 and when I clicked the KDE Preview in KDM and logged on it was all... well goofy. |
| 02:15.36 | njdube | tanamo, And I did this with a new account with no prior settings. |
| 02:16.19 | njdube | tanamo, I couldn't even log out. I had to hit Ctrl + Alt + Backspace. |
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| 02:18.02 | tanamo | hm, i guess you wont be able to copy how kde4 looks like, unless they release oxygen style for kde3 |
| 02:18.21 | tanamo | have you tried searching in kde-look.org? |
| 02:19.24 | njdube | tanamo, So Oxygen will be used as other aspects other then the icon theme? |
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| 02:21.11 | tanamo | yeah, oxygen is not just the icon pack, but also includes the style, wallpapers and other things.. |
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| 02:23.19 | hellhound | does anyone know a scan program in kde that can scan to pdf? |
| 02:23.52 | tanamo | http://pinheiro-kde.blogspot.com/index.html visit this for more preview... |
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| 02:24.19 | derek_ | hellhound: you can scan the image and save as pdf. It will be a graphic within the pdf. |
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| 02:24.31 | derek_ | hellhound: print as pdf rather |
| 02:24.44 | derek_ | hellhound: kooka |
| 02:24.49 | derek_ | is the scanning app |
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| 02:25.15 | hellhound | derek_: how do I use kooka to print to pdf an image i scaned? |
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| 02:29.02 | PaintFrog | is anyone useing kmess? |
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| 02:29.15 | derek_ | hellhound: select the image, hit the print icon in the toolbar, click on the arrow thingy where the printer name is and you should see a list including save to file pdf |
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| 03:50.15 | kevlinux | is there any KDE4 beta help here? |
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| 04:55.45 | Solifugus | is there a kde program for recording from a webcam? |
| 04:55.51 | Solifugus | capturing video? |
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| 05:14.54 | squarebottle | How can I make the programs I've set to autostart with KDE start hidden, or in the taskbar? |
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| 05:23.33 | krushia | my friendly gentoo channels are a bit dead at the moment. ctrl+alt+f* doesn't work in kde. i can't switch to any virtual terminals. i think this started happening with the 3.5.7 upgrade, not sure. |
| 05:23.44 | krushia | any ideas? |
| 05:24.05 | krushia | might be a kdm thing |
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| 05:34.33 | amason_ | hi guys, i have a file open in kate using utf8 mode and it displays a little question mark in a diamond for the ascii code 176 |
| 05:34.47 | amason_ | which is a degree symbol |
| 05:34.58 | amason_ | how can i open it up so that it shows the correct symbol |
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| 05:35.12 | amason_ | kchar select gives the 00B0 code for it |
| 05:35.22 | amason_ | in UTF8 which is 176 is ascii |
| 05:35.28 | amason_ | so its the correct code according to ke |
| 05:35.30 | amason_ | kde |
| 05:35.35 | amason_ | just shows up differently |
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| 05:36.21 | krushia | probably use a different font |
| 05:36.32 | krushia | try a vera font |
| 05:36.38 | krushia | oops no |
| 05:36.41 | krushia | i mean dejavu |
| 05:37.02 | krushia | dejavu sans mono is nice |
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| 05:39.06 | krushia | hmm, so Alt+SysRq+R makes my ctrl+alt+f* work, but it breaks again once i switch back to kde (on f7) |
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| 05:49.00 | amason_ | nah found out what it is, the encoding was iso-8859-1 |
| 05:49.09 | amason_ | and kate was opening it as utf-8 |
| 05:49.32 | amason_ | it appears kate doesn't look for the byte order mark and switch it's character set dynamically |
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| 06:50.33 | hardcampa | Man it's insane how great yakuake is, everything feels so comfortable now. Been using it for quite awhile now, just had to say it. Highly recommended. |
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| 07:15.27 | alanic | yakuake rules |
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| 07:18.21 | Armand | whats that?? |
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| 07:22.37 | Jucato | Armand: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/Yakuake?content=29153 |
| 07:24.41 | Armand | interesting.. |
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| 07:34.35 | alanic | yeah it's lovely |
| 07:34.51 | alanic | no longer searching for that konsole that you opened at some point |
| 07:34.51 | krushia | just realized KDE 4.0 RC 1 is due today |
| 07:35.01 | krushia | wonder if it will happen |
| 07:35.10 | Armand|ZzZz | I don't use console much, but I'll give it a go. :) |
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| 08:19.07 | Bille | krushia: for opensuse at least, most of rc1 is building fine except the translations. we made some fixes there yesterday. when they are done and other distros have got the fixes and rebuilt too, we'll announce rc1. |
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| 08:20.56 | krushia | neat. looking forward to it :) |
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| 08:25.25 | qupada | translations are very important too. US English = DO NOT WANT |
| 08:25.30 | qupada | ;) |
| 08:26.02 | Armand | US English = not a language :P |
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| 08:36.03 | abbe | hi channel |
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| 08:36.45 | abbe | I'm running Kubuntu 'Gutsy', and I'm unable to figure out, that in Kmail, how to de-italicize quoted text. |
| 08:37.29 | abbe | previously in Kmail (of Fedora 7, enterprise branch), I never'd this problem, I've copied Kmail, configuration from F7 to Gutsy |
| 08:38.06 | abbe | not only quoted text, but the text Inbox in 'Favorite Folders' pane is also italicised |
| 08:39.17 | abbe | do I've to enable 'custom fonts' in Kmail configuration dialog box ? or is there any other way out ? |
| 08:40.38 | qupada | SU |
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| 08:42.42 | yveslu | hello, can anyone tell me how I can put global, non-user-editable proxy-settings into KDE? I use debian etch and ubuntu dapper. I have read about a configfile called kioslaverc, but my systems do not have one like that... |
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| 08:57.09 | Bille | yveslu: yes, wait |
| 08:57.21 | yveslu | Bille: ok |
| 08:58.18 | Bille | yveslu: you can go straight to the proxy config with "kcmshell proxy" |
| 08:58.36 | Bille | that will create the kioslaverc file in .kde/share/config |
| 08:58.55 | Bille | then you can copy that into $KDEDIR/share/config and use kiosk to prevent users overriding those settings |
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| 09:00.14 | Bille | yveslu: http://techbase.kde.org/KDE_System_Administration/Kiosk/Introduction tells you how to mark keys in kioslaverc as immutable. ok? |
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| 09:00.52 | yveslu | Bille: Thanks so far, I will take a look at! |
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| 09:02.10 | Bille | yveslu: i'm going to work now, and i'm not really a kiosk expert. there is a kiosk mailing list for sysadmins, look at https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-kiosk |
| 09:02.16 | Bille | hope it works out for you! |
| 09:02.30 | yveslu | Bille: thank you so much. I will try. have a nice day! |
| 09:03.17 | Bille | thanks :) |
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| 09:40.15 | tuxick | duh, kmail failing to redraw after i cancelled connecting to an imap server |
| 09:40.39 | tuxick | sometimes it looks like kde is getting worse :) |
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| 09:41.14 | tuxick | strace -p showing no activity |
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| 09:46.26 | MrWGW | is KDE 4 RC1 still scheduled to be released today? |
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| 10:05.30 | calao | hola |
| 10:05.34 | tuxick | this channel seems to be mostly join/part :) |
| 10:06.23 | tuxick | there |
| 10:06.30 | calao | hola |
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| 10:10.45 | tuxick | wasn't kde supposed to be threading? |
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| 10:13.58 | tuxick | so, kde finds out it can't connect to imapd, it pops up a login dialog, and choosing cancel hangs it |
| 10:14.04 | tuxick | sorry, kmail |
| 10:14.14 | tuxick | sounds wrong to me |
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| 10:43.56 | dm | Hello. I use Konqueror for file browsing. When opening a new Konqueror window in an NFS nounted directory I can not see all files there immediately. I must do a manual reload. How can I avoid this behaviour? |
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| 10:45.07 | d3x | dm, i guess there is something like contents caching, but i wouldn't bet my head for this ;) |
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| 11:11.44 | dm | d3x: I already tried disbaling cache but that seems to affect only web browsing. |
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| 11:23.57 | batiste | I use a QTreeView for a kate plugin, but look like alien in kde4. How can I do to get the kde4 theme on it ? |
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| 11:24.33 | A-L-A-R-M | hello, are there any kde files that keep information about mounted hdds/usbs ? |
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| 11:24.46 | A-L-A-R-M | for udev or hal maybe |
| 11:25.26 | thiago | no |
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| 12:10.33 | elnovatillo | help |
| 12:10.47 | elnovatillo | help!!, how do i download pictures from my canon poweshot camera? |
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| 12:11.59 | Armand | Step 1. RTFM! |
| 12:12.10 | Armand | Step 2. Google.. |
| 12:12.25 | Armand | Step 3. Ignore daft questions on IRC.. |
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| 12:13.04 | elnovatillo | i cant find the manual on my KDE cd !! |
| 12:13.24 | Armand | And, the camera CD? |
| 12:13.38 | elnovatillo | and whats Daft? |
| 12:13.52 | Sho_ | elnovatillo: Check out Digikam |
| 12:14.14 | elnovatillo | Sho_: thank you , your response was very VERY constructive |
| 12:14.38 | elnovatillo | ok, installing digikam, brb |
| 12:14.41 | Sho_ | elnovatillo: Digikam is an application to download your photos from your camera and manage them |
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| 12:15.36 | elnovatillo | Sho_: excellent, its installing right now |
| 12:16.09 | warhus | hello |
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| 12:19.45 | elnovatillo | wow Digikam rocks |
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| 12:22.03 | warhus | have anyone of you know how with eprint ? |
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| 12:46.45 | maki__ | is there a countdown timer for kde as that one for ubuntu ? |
| 12:47.19 | maki__ | i mean the web animation that says how many days are left till realese |
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| 12:52.16 | Jejem | maki__: is it very useful? :D |
| 12:52.44 | maki__ | it would be cool to put that on web pages |
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| 13:12.38 | dadada | somehow I messed up my settings |
| 13:13.00 | dadada | ksnapshot opens everytime I press the "up"-arrow on my laptops keyboard |
| 13:13.34 | dadada | I assume, that the keyboard-layout is screwed and the key is supposed to be the print key |
| 13:13.50 | dadada | I double-checked many times that I'm pressing the right key... |
| 13:14.51 | Arelis | Hi all. I'm installing Ubuntu (unrelated) and i'm now on a commandline system. i REALLY prefer KDE over ANYTHING.. but Ubuntu kinda forces me to use GNOME, mainly because GNOME is not buggy and KDE is (in Ubuntu). For example, Adept crashes often, a lot of config tools are made only for gnome and are hard to find in the config menu, and compiz-fusion displays white borders around everything. But i really |
| 13:14.52 | Arelis | prefer KDE, if it weren't so poorly supported by Ubuntu, since that's the only distro i use, and used for about 3 years. But i'm on an Ubuntu command-line system now, with almost nothing installed, not even Xorg. |
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| 13:18.16 | Jucato | Arelis: 1) install "kubuntu-desktop" if you want to get the kubuntu defaults or "kde" to get (almost) all of KDE (which would be quite a lot). 2) you can use Synaptic or KPackage if you don't want Adept. |
| 13:18.47 | Arelis | Jucato: Alright. what do i get with installing KDE? |
| 13:19.25 | Jucato | all the official kde modules: kdelibs, kdebase, kdegraphics, kdemultimedia, kdeaddons, kdeutils, etc. |
| 13:19.53 | Jucato | but you don't get the apps that are not in the primary modules: extragear apps like k3b, gwenview, amarok, etc. or koffice |
| 13:20.21 | Jucato | Arelis: you also don't get Kubuntu's default settings, artworks, etc. |
| 13:20.30 | Jucato | (which may be good, depending on your tastes) |
| 13:20.42 | Arelis | Jucato: will i get vanilla kde or modified Kubuntu kde? |
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| 13:21.29 | Jucato | that depends. most probably vanilla kde except in some areas where they might have modified the code directly (kpdf for example) |
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| 13:23.26 | Arelis | Jucato: and konqueror? |
| 13:23.51 | HomeRoey | Kubunqueror. |
| 13:24.00 | Jucato | vanilla (I think) |
| 13:24.03 | HomeRoey | oh |
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| 13:27.23 | Jucato | Kubuntu's changes to the Konqueror menu are isolated in the config files from the kubuntu-default-settings package (which you don't get if you install only "kde") |
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| 13:51.20 | smileaf | I'm trying to print a very large image, but I don't want to scale it down. I want it to print on multiple sheets of paper. Gwenview will only print the top left portion and then it'll stop. |
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| 14:08.49 | Arelis | what's a good IRC client for KDE? |
| 14:08.57 | Armand | Konversation. :) |
| 14:09.10 | Arelis | Armand: Okay. How's ksirc? |
| 14:10.03 | Armand | Can't remember.. |
| 14:10.15 | Armand | Been using Konv. for ages. :) |
| 14:10.29 | A-L-A-R-M | xchat is betta |
| 14:10.52 | Jejem | no troll please. |
| 14:11.19 | Jucato | ksirc? unmaintained, and no longer part of kdenetwork in KDE 4 |
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| 14:12.02 | spirit33 | hey guys - quick question for you |
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| 14:13.52 | spirit33 | any idea if cervisia has been updated since 2000'ish? I realise it's been rolled into kdesk now, but I don't have access to a recent kde box - and the only recent version numbers I can find is of kdesk which obviously matches the kde release. Does cervisia > 2.2.1 (2002) exist? |
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| 14:14.45 | Sho_ | spirit33: Current Cervisia is 2.4.8 (in KDE 3.5.8) |
| 14:15.36 | spirit33 | Sho_: Excellent - thanks - much appreciated |
| 14:15.58 | Arelis | Okay, now that I have kde installed: how do i prevent KDE from slowing down? for example, what apps shouldn't i install? |
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| 14:18.43 | Arelis | i didn't get to read the answer to my question. was it answered, and if so, can someone copy and paste what he/she said? |
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| 14:18.51 | mattme | no it wasn't answered |
| 14:19.00 | Arelis | ok :) |
| 14:19.15 | mattme | but you can install what you want |
| 14:19.28 | mattme | as far as i know kde shouldn'T slow down |
| 14:20.16 | Arelis | alright then, i have the barebones of KDE now. What should i install for these tasks?: Listening to music, watching video's, reading e-books, downloading stuff, taking notes |
| 14:20.40 | Jucato | the choice of apps is really up to you |
| 14:21.06 | Arelis | Jucato: where can i find a list of KDE apps, then? :) |
| 14:21.07 | mattme | listening to music: amarok, videos: kaffeine, reading e-books: kpdf (if they are pdfs), downlding (what do you mean by that?), taking notes: knotes |
| 14:21.15 | Jucato | popular choices for those are amarok, (too many video player preferences), kpdf/kchmviewer, ktorrent for p2p or kget for regular, basket |
| 14:21.24 | mattme | but you should check if these programs are not installed already |
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| 14:21.34 | Arelis | mattme: they're not :) |
| 14:21.40 | Jucato | if they're installed already, the package manager will say so :) |
| 14:21.41 | mattme | ok, then install them |
| 14:21.41 | mattme | :D |
| 14:21.58 | mattme | other videoplayers: vlc, mplayer.... |
| 14:22.17 | JohnFlux | Arelis: apt-get install kde |
| 14:22.24 | mattme | you can start with the ones above and replace any app you don't like with any other :) |
| 14:22.26 | JohnFlux | Arelis: that should install all the 'standard' progarms |
| 14:22.37 | Arelis | JohnFlux: naw, that's too many.. i just installed kde-core |
| 14:22.49 | JohnFlux | Arelis: you have little hard disk space? |
| 14:22.57 | Arelis | JohnFlux: let me look |
| 14:23.11 | Arelis | err |
| 14:23.19 | JohnFlux | Arelis: just wondering why it's 'too many' |
| 14:23.23 | Arelis | my harddrive is 60% full |
| 14:23.33 | Arelis | JohnFlux: too many to browse through the menu's :P |
| 14:23.33 | Jucato | Arelis: http://jucato.org/kde/kde-core.html |
| 14:23.47 | Jucato | I had some advice there... |
| 14:23.56 | Jucato | specially since are using a kde-core install |
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| 14:25.08 | Arelis | Jucato: alright :) |
| 14:25.13 | Arelis | Jucato: it really is faster, eh? |
| 14:25.19 | Arelis | Jucato: MUCH faster than Ubuntu with GNOME or Kubuntu |
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| 14:26.15 | Jucato | not MUCH faster. but you can somehow feel it |
| 14:26.38 | Arelis | Jucato: what do you recommend for a mailing program? I have a gmail address, and i only use gmail, but i like using it in programs more than in the browser. Does kmail support gmail? |
| 14:26.50 | mattme | arelis, do you hjave debian installed or kubuntu or anything else? |
| 14:26.53 | Jucato | Arelis: also, I made this way back in Edgy. and almost every Kubuntu release gets a bit faster than the previous one |
| 14:27.04 | Jucato | Arelis: kmail |
| 14:27.26 | Jucato | kmail supports pop3 (very well) and imap (not so sure, never used it) |
| 14:27.55 | Arelis | mattme: I installed a command-line system with the Ubuntu alternate install cd, then installed kde-core on top of it. |
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| 14:28.04 | mattme | ah |
| 14:28.05 | mattme | ok |
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| 14:28.34 | mattme | kmail support gmail with imap very good |
| 14:28.41 | mattme | I use it with a gmail-account |
| 14:29.38 | mattme | actually I think it's even better than thunderbird |
| 14:30.34 | Arelis | What office suite should i install? |
| 14:30.40 | Arelis | OpenOffice? |
| 14:30.50 | spawn57 | yeah, that one is decent |
| 14:30.53 | Arelis | i want full compatibility with Windows - and Kofifce is too weird for me |
| 14:31.07 | spawn57 | with windows, what do you mean with windows? |
| 14:31.10 | spawn57 | as in ms office? |
| 14:31.17 | spawn57 | or run the same software on Windows? |
| 14:31.39 | Arelis | compatibility with .doc formats and so forth |
| 14:31.55 | spawn57 | use office on wine then |
| 14:31.55 | Arelis | we use Windows at school, and sometimes i do schoolwork here. It's important i don't lose something in the document |
| 14:31.58 | Arelis | such as the layout |
| 14:32.36 | Sho_ | The only officd suite that achieves full compatibility with Microsoft Office' document formats is Microsoft Office |
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| 14:32.51 | Arelis | openoffice does it fairly well |
| 14:32.53 | Arelis | but is slow |
| 14:32.56 | Arelis | oh well |
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| 14:33.41 | ambro626 | why does klaptop only change performance profiles for one CPU? I got two CPUs and the second is always on 'performance' |
| 14:34.11 | Sho_ | Laptops with two CPUs are fairly rare, I'd say :) |
| 14:34.24 | spawn57 | hyperthreading.. |
| 14:34.52 | ambro626 | Sho_: well I got two laptops with 2 cpus |
| 14:35.46 | Sho_ | ambro626: It's possible I guess, but it's more likely you have a single CPU with hyperthreading or two cores, which on current platforms can't really be adjusted individually, so KLaptop would probably do everything correct except display it properly, thus confusing you |
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| 14:36.57 | Arelis | Jucato: what's a good media player that has good support for konqueror? |
| 14:37.02 | ambro626 | Sho_: well what I mean is two cores, but I'm telling you the profile is changed only for one, I can see it with cpufreq-info |
| 14:37.22 | Jucato | Arelis: what do you mean by "good support for konqueror"? |
| 14:37.45 | Arelis | Jucato: a browser plugin |
| 14:37.51 | Sho_ | Arelis: KMPlayer |
| 14:37.52 | Jucato | kmplayer |
| 14:37.54 | Jucato | see? :) |
| 14:39.18 | Arelis | Jucato: you get to customize what you want, too, when you install kde-core |
| 14:39.23 | Arelis | yes, i like it more than kubuntu-desktop |
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| 14:40.07 | Jucato | (although I sort of like the kubuntu artwork...) |
| 14:40.16 | Arelis | i don't |
| 14:40.26 | Arelis | what's the best menu replacement for KDE? |
| 14:40.34 | Arelis | (most usable) |
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| 14:41.44 | Jucato | best == what works for you, what you like, what answers your needs |
| 14:42.01 | Jucato | "what's the best" questions are the best type of questions to start flamewars too :) |
| 14:42.53 | Arelis | sorry. |
| 14:43.22 | Arelis | What is the most usable KDE menu replacement? I don't know of any, other than Kickoff. |
| 14:44.10 | Jucato | others alternatives are kbfx and tasty menu... whether they're "usable"... depends largely on the user... |
| 14:44.18 | Arelis | i didn't like kbfx |
| 14:44.21 | Arelis | what's tasty menu |
| 14:44.21 | Arelis | ? |
| 14:44.33 | smileaf | Most/Best <-- key words to stay away from due to flame wars ;) |
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| 14:44.55 | Arelis | and i've never actually used kickoff, but i have a laptop with a fresh opensuse install (accidentaly, i was about to abort the install but it completed..), how is it? |
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| 14:47.04 | t_s_o | hmm, is there a reason why ksnapshot isnt launched when i press print screen? i thought that was default |
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| 14:47.53 | Jucato | t_s_o: check KControl -> Regional & Accessibility -> Input Actions |
| 14:48.13 | Jucato | under the Preset Actions group |
| 14:48.23 | t_s_o | thanks |
| 14:48.45 | t_s_o | i was looking under keyboard shortcuts :P |
| 14:49.19 | mahound | how do i remove a file from a kdevelop project? |
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| 14:50.53 | t_s_o | hmm, it does not seem to work... |
| 14:50.58 | mahound | i cannot find the option |
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| 14:56.15 | Andrea__ | Hi! |
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| 14:56.43 | Andrea__ | Ciao! |
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| 15:01.44 | t_s_o | hrmf, everything looks correct with the input actions setup, but still no ksnapshot when i press the key... |
| 15:04.25 | Jucato | PrintScreen is there under the Preset Actions? |
| 15:04.38 | t_s_o | yes |
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| 15:05.20 | Jucato | is the "Disable KHotKeys daemon" unchecked? |
| 15:05.25 | Jucato | (General Settings tab |
| 15:05.39 | Jucato | Global Settings button -> General Settings tab |
| 15:05.58 | t_s_o | hmm, seems like it could be a issue with my keyboard setup. when i set the key combo to something else it worked |
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| 15:06.24 | Jucato | t_s_o: it might be that you set PrintScreen to another action in Keyboard Shortcuts? |
| 15:06.31 | t_s_o | ok, i cant use straight printscreen. but ctrl+printscreen worked |
| 15:07.13 | t_s_o | Jucato: not likely as i got a message the first time i played around and told it to reassing the key to this exact action |
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| 15:07.52 | Jucato | t_s_o: er no... Keyboard Shorcuts don't know about Input Actions I think |
| 15:08.16 | t_s_o | ok, but i checked and there are no keyboard shortcuts that cover that. it at least there should not be... |
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| 15:08.46 | t_s_o | its was set to screenshot earlier but is cleared now |
| 15:08.49 | t_s_o | brb, food |
| 15:09.21 | bobesponja | hey |
| 15:09.35 | bobesponja | is KDE 4.0 RC1 going to be released today? |
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| 15:12.10 | yoh | Hello All KDE People! Linus stay with(in) your Konsole! |
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| 15:12.21 | Armand | ... |
| 15:12.56 | yoh | I've got a new laptop (Lenovo X61), installed sid/experimental Debian. now I got a problem that none of kde applications processes right click of the mouse (built in trackpoing or extrnal usb) -- what can I do? xev shows events fine seems to me. all other apps (wmaker, even gnome) process it fine |
| 15:13.10 | t_s_o | funny. i had to go back to keyboard shortcuts. specifically clear the one that had printscreen and alt+printscreen assigned earlier (but was set to none now), again set them to none and apply. then print work as a launcher for ksnapshot... |
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| 15:16.57 | mahound | /usr/kde/3.5/include/kparts/componentfactory.h:105: undefined reference to `KParts::ReadOnlyPart::staticMetaObject()' |
| 15:17.01 | mahound | any clue about htis? |
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| 15:21.23 | dc2447 | can you book mark a series of tabs in Konsole that are open ssh sesions to servers? |
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| 15:23.57 | litb | hello all |
| 15:24.11 | litb | does someone have a new screenshot of the panel? |
| 15:24.17 | litb | i mean, with some applets on it? |
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| 15:27.38 | litb | ah i see it now on aarons' screeny |
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| 15:30.29 | yoh | noone had a problem with right button press of the mouse? |
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| 15:31.12 | JackWinter | hiya. anyone who can help me get myspace working in konqueror? i installed flash 9.0.48.0 & it works on youtube. myspace also works in firefox. the problem is that the myspace media player will not work in konqueror. it keeps looping, at the bottom of the screen i see something about mediacounter |
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| 15:33.04 | Armand | Jucato: I like Yakuake. :) |
| 15:33.15 | Jucato | heheh :) |
| 15:33.22 | Jucato | Sho_: another satisfied customer :) |
| 15:33.27 | Armand | Thanks for pointing that out. :D |
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| 15:34.40 | Sho_ | :) |
| 15:35.03 | yoh | Jucato, yes - yakuake is nice and I even have right -click working there... surprise - doesnt work anywhere else in kde.... |
| 15:35.09 | Armand | That's my standard console tool now. :D |
| 15:35.11 | yoh | Jucato, thanks |
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| 15:39.25 | litb | i wonder why we'll see the new digest :) |
| 15:39.33 | litb | *when |
| 15:39.40 | Armand | *where? :P |
| 15:40.07 | Jucato | "when it's ready" :) |
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| 15:40.47 | Armand | Are there any screen-shots of KDE4 online?? |
| 15:41.06 | Jucato | www.kde.org |
| 15:41.14 | Jucato | (the last beta release) |
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| 15:47.40 | Armand | Jucato: rgr. :) |
| 15:48.07 | abcd | Hello, after clicking on a folder "Can't find MIME type application/octet-stream" error appears. When I click OK folder is opened with Konqueror. I think it happened after I added a new file association in Konqueror settings, then i removed this association, but the error still appears. Anyone could help? (sorry for my english, i hope you have understood me) |
| 15:50.02 | Armand | Jucato: Yeah, that's looking nice. :) |
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| 16:01.55 | mattb | I'm going around in circles... |
| 16:02.23 | mattb | is there an easy way to make kdevelop templates? |
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| 16:08.11 | mattb | like a template for the appwizard |
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| 16:13.21 | FreshPrince | hi |
| 16:13.30 | nitro4ce | hi. when i open konqueror web browser i want the window to be maximized, but web i open koqueror file browser i want it to be minimized.. is there a way to do that? |
| 16:16.13 | infopipe | nitro4ce: save the window size in your profile settings |
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| 16:20.03 | nitro4ce | infopipe: thanks a lot.. :) |
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| 16:25.03 | nitro4ce | what amarok uses python for? |
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| 16:25.45 | aleksanteri | nitro4ce: scripts |
| 16:26.11 | nitro4ce | aleksanteri: the i can compile amarok without the python flag safely? |
| 16:26.12 | aleksanteri | don't know about it more than that: firstly i don't know python too much, secondly i don't use amarok scripts. |
| 16:26.25 | nitro4ce | aleksanteri: cool |
| 16:26.36 | aleksanteri | or was it ruby.. |
| 16:26.40 | Armand | aanma! |
| 16:26.45 | Armand | annma* :P |
| 16:26.58 | annma | ;) |
| 16:27.11 | aleksanteri | annma: did amarok use python or ruby for scripting? |
| 16:27.38 | annma | #amarok |
| 16:27.47 | annma | aleksanteri: ^^ |
| 16:28.01 | aleksanteri | ya saw that |
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| 16:28.37 | aleksanteri | nitro4ce: yeah it's used for scripting, kinda sure you can use it without the python flat. |
| 16:28.45 | aleksanteri | s/flat/flag/ |
| 16:29.12 | nitro4ce | aleksanteri: ok |
| 16:30.13 | nitro4ce | aleksanteri: for your question, it uses python OR ruby, depending on the flag.. if you compile it without the python flag you get ruby |
| 16:30.30 | aleksanteri | ah right |
| 16:30.42 | nitro4ce | ;) |
| 16:31.43 | aleksanteri | neither i know python or ruby enough to use it :) python a little bit, ruby not at all |
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| 16:39.24 | nitro4ce | *neither |
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| 16:53.55 | Arelis | what is a good program for taking notes in KDE somewhat like tomboy? (and please, no basket, it's development is going very badly) |
| 16:55.04 | maki | knotes ? |
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| 16:57.04 | annma | Arelis: kde-apps.org |
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| 17:00.34 | TimS | Can you run KDE3 apps, like basKet in KDE4? |
| 17:02.00 | smileaf | TimS: Yes |
| 17:02.26 | TimS | Thankyou |
| 17:02.36 | smileaf | TimS: Likewise you can run terminal apps, gnome apps, etc.. in KDE3 or KDE4, and you can run kde3 or kde4 apps in gnome and any other windowing manager. |
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| 17:03.25 | TimS | Ah, ok, We were wondering in #kubuntu as someone said KDE2 apps diddnt work in KDE3, but I dont know how accurate that is |
| 17:04.01 | nitro4ce | TimS: of course you can.. that app will maybe need qt3 but you can have qt3 and qt4 installed at teh same time.. |
| 17:04.10 | TimS | Ok, thanks. |
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| 17:04.13 | smileaf | kde2 apps can't be compiled with kde3 stuff.. but if you have both kde2 and kde3 installed then thats not a problem. |
| 17:04.40 | TimS | Ah, I see. |
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| 17:04.50 | smileaf | dunno why you'd want to have anything kde2 tho. |
| 17:04.59 | TimS | Nope, nor do I :P |
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| 17:12.14 | nitro4ce | TimS: anyway.. kde3 apps will probably be ported to kde4 in the future |
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| 17:13.16 | TimS | nitro4ce: I realize that but basket was suposedlt not going to be ported |
| 17:13.43 | SSJ_GZ | TimS: Where did you read that? |
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| 17:13.55 | TimS | On their site, I think. |
| 17:14.26 | SSJ_GZ | TimS: I'd be very surprised if basKet weren't ported to KDE4 at some point. |
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| 17:14.45 | SSJ_GZ | TimS: Maybe a few months down the line, or so. |
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| 17:15.53 | chris_ | basket is a top kde application , if you trust kde-apps.org ratings ... |
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| 17:16.26 | TimS | http://basket.kde.org/version2.php |
| 17:16.38 | TimS | Top of that page, its not being developed anymore |
| 17:17.28 | chris_ | It still needs developers to make it into KDE 4. |
| 17:17.29 | chris_ | yes |
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| 17:18.10 | chris_ | Due to being very busy with real life, I'm afraid I have to give up on the development part of BasKet Note Pads. This really hurts me because it is my "baby", but I have no choice: I haven't programmed anything since version 1.0. BasKet Note Pads has no developer anymore. Without new developers, I'm afraid the project will have to be stopped (and unavailable on KDE 4). |
| 17:18.52 | SSJ_GZ | TimS: Basket is still being developed, but slowly. Check out basket-devel mailing list. |
| 17:19.18 | SimAtWork | what is basket note pads anyhow |
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| 17:22.13 | nitro4ce | lol |
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| 17:24.45 | Smak_ | this may be off topic, but I just installed compiz-fusion, and now my applications don't have the caption bar with the min/max/close button. Nor do I have the ability to more the app around on the screen. |
| 17:25.28 | dreamteam_ | It seems that you dont have any WM launched |
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| 17:25.59 | nitro4ce | Smak_: you need to actually launch compiz-fusion |
| 17:26.44 | Smak_ | I need to manually: /usr/local/bin/compiz-fusion |
| 17:26.47 | Smak_ | launch |
| 17:27.33 | nitro4ce | Smak_: try that |
| 17:27.44 | nitro4ce | Smak_: have yoy got fusion-icon ? |
| 17:28.18 | nitro4ce | *you |
| 17:28.36 | Smak_ | well some of the effects ARE working |
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| 17:29.55 | Smak_ | like holding down the alt+Lclick+move mouse. Doesn't this mean that compiz-fusion is launched and working? |
| 17:30.27 | nitro4ce | try |
| 17:30.30 | nitro4ce | emerald --replace |
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| 17:31.21 | Smak_ | Oooo, nice |
| 17:31.33 | nitro4ce | worked? |
| 17:31.36 | Smak_ | yep |
| 17:31.39 | nitro4ce | cool |
| 17:31.44 | Smak_ | your awesome |
| 17:31.51 | nitro4ce | ;) |
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| 17:33.44 | Armand | Any other nice KDE tools, for system stats/benchmarks & such? |
| 17:33.54 | Smak_ | Could you possible tell me how I remap the win key so I can get the zoom feature working. The zoom feature says it is bound to <super>Button 3, but a kde quick menu seems to be bound to the win button, and I looked under kcontrol->regional->key shortcuts and could not find where the win key was bound. |
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| 17:41.07 | nitro4ce | Smak_: no clue |
| 17:41.17 | nitro4ce | Smak_: if you couldn't find it then it is not bounded |
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| 17:42.39 | nitro4ce | Smak_: try assigning a different key to the zoom effect in Applications - > Preferences - > CompizConfig Settings Manager |
| 17:42.41 | jsizzle | mediamanager has stopped detecting my usb disk drives, kwikdisc works, but I can't make a link to the device on the desktop or use my ipod with amarok which is the main source of my angst! anyone who can help me thank you in advance |
| 17:42.49 | Smak_ | k |
| 17:43.24 | jsizzle | I can mount my ipod from the command line but amarok doesn't recognize it that way for some reason |
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| 17:50.10 | nitro4ce | jsizzle: got ivman? |
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| 17:51.57 | nitro4ce | jsizzle: make sure you have udev |
| 17:52.06 | nitro4ce | jsizzle: rc-update add hald default |
| 17:52.10 | nitro4ce | jsizzle: rc-update add ivman default |
| 17:53.19 | nitro4ce | jsizzle: that's for gentoo sorry dunno for your distro |
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| 18:00.28 | penguinbait | Hello, I am looking for a way to exlude items from the menu, specifically Home and Control Center, I use the menu editor to remove it. But I want to move these settings to another machine, and when I move the .kde dir it does not contain the changed menu, so the new machine has to use the menu editor also. |
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| 18:01.01 | penguinbait | Where are these settings stored? |
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| 18:04.14 | Smak_ | So I put emerald --replace in /usr/local/bin/compix-fusion so I would have a WM on startup but nope. anyhelp? |
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| 18:06.01 | nitro4ce | Smak_: fusion-icon |
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| 18:07.21 | Smak_ | fusion-icon. nope |
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| 18:08.06 | nitro4ce | Smak_: have you got /usr/bin/compiz-start ? |
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| 18:08.24 | nitro4ce | Smak_: if you do, run that |
| 18:09.25 | Smak_ | nope, under /usr/bin compiz compiz-manager |
| 18:09.38 | nitro4ce | Smak_: mm |
| 18:09.44 | nitro4ce | Smak_: let me think |
| 18:09.58 | Smak_ | let me do a quick find for it |
| 18:10.21 | nitro4ce | Smak_: i was wrong |
| 18:10.26 | Smak_ | okay |
| 18:10.42 | nitro4ce | Smak_: try running this in a console: |
| 18:10.46 | nitro4ce | Smak_: ccsm |
| 18:11.19 | Smak_ | okay |
| 18:11.27 | nitro4ce | Smak_: go to decoration-settings |
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| 18:11.57 | nitro4ce | Smak_: Effects -> Window-Manager -> command |
| 18:12.12 | nitro4ce | Smak_: For emerald there will be emerald --replace. |
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| 18:13.21 | Smak_ | effects -> window-Decorations-> command and type in emerald --replace? |
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| 18:13.29 | nitro4ce | yep |
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| 18:13.41 | Smak_ | is there more options besides emerald? |
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| 18:14.14 | nitro4ce | Smak_: dunno |
| 18:14.33 | gr3yf0x | kde-window-decorator --replace |
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| 18:14.59 | nitro4ce | there you go |
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| 18:15.27 | Smak_ | wow, |
| 18:15.55 | Fri13 | What part of KDE i need to install to get remote network storage wizard to remote:/ ? The place where i can add FTP/SFTP account infos etc? |
| 18:16.04 | Fri13 | And save that account as icon. |
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| 18:16.46 | penguinbait | oooh, I just drop kicked my n800 about 5 feet |
| 18:17.02 | Fri13 | penguinbait: and what happend? :-/ |
| 18:17.07 | penguinbait | nothing :) |
| 18:17.18 | Fri13 | Damit!!! |
| 18:17.24 | penguinbait | fumble!! |
| 18:17.24 | Fri13 | oh... sorry penguinbait ;-) |
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| 18:18.12 | Araen | do you know a good chess' game for kde ? |
| 18:18.37 | penguinbait | not off the top of my head |
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| 18:20.05 | Smak_ | So a completely different topic. I have 2 sound cards, I have setup teamspeak to use the second card attached to my headset. Is there an easy way to switch the sound system to use this card. /dev/sound/mixer2 |
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| 18:22.13 | penguinbait | I see the new 2008 OS has libsmbclient, is there some built in samba functionality now? |
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| 18:25.28 | nitro4ce | Smak_: alsaconf |
| 18:25.31 | Smak_ | the answer to my question is NOOOOOO no ut2004 with compiz |
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| 18:29.58 | mick_home_ | how can i find out the themes for amor? |
| 18:30.19 | mick_home_ | man amor says to use --theme -- only i don't see which ones i can use |
| 18:30.29 | mick_home_ | i'd like to use Niko (that cat) |
| 18:30.41 | mick_home_ | but i'm not able to pass that argument |
| 18:31.05 | ganymede | how can i have a video play as my background? i tried putting in mplayer -rootwin -fullscreen as the command to draw the background, but i just get a solid white background |
| 18:31.11 | mick_home_ | err, Neko |
| 18:31.49 | mick_home_ | ganymede: might try #mplayer -- do let me know how you do that (if you figure it out) |
| 18:31.54 | mick_home_ | i want to do the same thing :) |
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| 18:36.07 | smithjd | has anyone tried the new rc1? |
| 18:36.18 | Betelgeuse | Is there some kde app I can use on the command line find mime-type of a file? |
| 18:36.40 | benJIman | Betelgeuse: why not just use "file"? |
| 18:36.45 | mick_home_ | file does that |
| 18:37.35 | mick_home_ | how can i set the DISPLAY to show on another box (not mine) |
| 18:37.40 | mick_home_ | i'm ssh'ed into a box |
| 18:37.52 | Betelgeuse | benJIman: I am looking into why kde doesn't associate a certain mimetype to a file |
| 18:38.20 | Betelgeuse | benJIman: I am migrating a project from .desktop files to shared-mime-info rules |
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| 18:40.21 | mick_home_ | figured it out ;) |
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| 18:42.32 | andersin | what is the correct place to report small errors on the webpage to? |
| 18:42.43 | PhilRod | #kde-www or kde-www@kde.org |
| 18:42.58 | andersin | thanks |
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| 18:48.46 | clarjon1 | Hey, was wondering if there was a KDE addon that does the same function as that drawer addon for gnome... |
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| 18:49.50 | blendtux | rc1 is out i read |
| 18:49.57 | blendtux | off kde4 |
| 18:50.17 | clarjon1 | Cool. |
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| 18:51.30 | clarjon1 | Or, is there some addon or something that lets one use gnome's taskbar addons on the kicker bar? |
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| 18:55.43 | Neuro_geek | clarjon1: you can add menu's from the applications menu (k menu) directly to the kicker bar. I suppose you could create a new custom menu, then add it to the kicker bar. |
| 18:56.23 | Neuro_geek | right click > add application to bar > select menu > click "add this menu" |
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| 18:59.57 | clarjon1 | I knew about the add menu, that's not what I want. |
| 19:00.20 | Betelgeuse | Anyone know where to look into KDE kde for the icon showed for files in Konqueror? |
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| 19:00.43 | Betelgeuse | In KDE code I mea. |
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| 19:01.21 | clarjon1 | The drawer function in gnome acts like a sub panel, and I foudn that useful. |
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| 19:04.46 | Neuro_geek | sorry, I don't think there's an identical function. You can add programs with a menu, or files with the "quick file browser", or you can add another panel, and make it auto hiding. |
| 19:06.08 | t_s_o | oh crap, why do one have to copy the mac control panel?! |
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| 19:07.15 | t_s_o | i think ill stick with 3.5.8, 4.0 seems to be a bastard child between vista and osx :( |
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| 19:09.10 | redmonkey | hello. does anybody know which options kaudiocreator use for cdparanoia? |
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| 19:13.06 | rohan | i'd read somewhere that kde4 will be released early but announced late .. any idea why ? |
| 19:13.40 | Tm_T | rohan: erm what early and late? |
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| 19:14.39 | rohan | Tm_T: http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.0_Release_Schedule#Upcoming_milestones see, it'll be released on 11th december, but launch event is on 18th januar |
| 19:14.54 | Tm_T | it's schedule, a plan |
| 19:15.27 | Tm_T | announcement btw isn't same as launch event |
| 19:16.38 | rohan | Tm_T: i had read somewhere the reason for launch event being so delayed, after release |
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| 19:17.19 | MaximLevitsky | Is there a IRC channel for kmail? |
| 19:17.20 | Tm_T | rohan: anyway, launch event is not announcement, so your original question is false |
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| 19:17.40 | Tm_T | MaximLevitsky: this or #kontact perhaps |
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| 19:17.47 | rohan | Tm_T: yes, my original question is false |
| 19:18.08 | rohan | i'd read somewhere that kde4 will be released early but launch event is very late. why so ? |
| 19:18.09 | MaximLevitsky | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:18.18 | idol | Greetings... |
| 19:18.25 | rohan | Tm_T: that ok for you ? |
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| 19:18.59 | Tm_T | rohan: very ok :)) |
| 19:19.09 | MaximLevitsky | KMail + Gmail :-) + IMAP = Few problems |
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| 19:20.46 | MaximLevitsky | First of all, does Kmail save outgoing messages to "Outbox" for imap servers? |
| 19:21.09 | idol | meeeen!!! Tell me please any Russian server! =) |
| 19:21.24 | MaximLevitsky | Have nothing to write to test this out? |
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| 19:22.21 | MaximLevitsky | I mean that I have nothing to write to test whenever the Kmail saves outgoing messages to outbox for IMAP |
| 19:24.58 | idol | да ядрён-батон, скажите уже мне адреса пары русских серверов, я нуп в ирц! |
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| 19:25.03 | idol | =) |
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| 19:27.05 | idol | (crashin' head with wall) 0_o Somebody! Talk to me! |
| 19:27.43 | Armand | If I understood your previous statement, I might of.. |
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| 19:28.13 | Ch1ppy | hey, does anyone know if we can expect the KDE4 RC today sometime? |
| 19:28.32 | boom1992 | it is out |
| 19:28.35 | boom1992 | look dor |
| 19:28.35 | Desintegr | lol |
| 19:28.39 | boom1992 | dot.kde.org |
| 19:28.41 | boom1992 | and kde.org |
| 19:28.51 | Ch1ppy | boom1992: then my rss feed hasn't updated? :( |
| 19:28.58 | boom1992 | could be... |
| 19:29.01 | boom1992 | :-D |
| 19:29.27 | idol | Armand, difine please... =) It is hard to speak without knowledge any foreign languages, you know... |
| 19:30.00 | Armand | Meaning.. I can't understand your first line. |
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| 19:31.33 | Armand | I don't read russian, or whatever that is. |
| 19:31.39 | Armand | So I couldn't reply to it. |
| 19:32.30 | idol | Armand, Oh, I sad "I'm death-nweb on irc & I nedd some Russian servers, just list" or somthing like that =) |
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| 19:32.53 | Armand | ok.. stll can't help you. :( |
| 19:32.58 | Armand | *still ^ |
| 19:33.04 | idol | Armand, newb i mean... =) |
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| 19:33.10 | Armand | :) |
| 19:33.27 | maki | anyone here uses KDE4 from the tardo archlinux repo? |
| 19:34.25 | MaximLevitsky | I have a question about KDE4 |
| 19:34.55 | MaximLevitsky | Is the memory footprint smaller or as usial :-) bigger ? |
| 19:35.26 | idol | well... some practice at tech-English will be nice too... but my mothertongue much, much better... %) |
| 19:35.44 | maki | MaximLevitsky KDE dont have big memory footprint |
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| 19:35.52 | Bille | MaximLevitsky: smaller in theory, but i have not benchmarked it. |
| 19:35.59 | Armand | idol: for you, certainly. :) |
| 19:35.59 | maki | it just makes use of you ra,\m |
| 19:36.01 | maki | *ram |
| 19:36.25 | maki | you could run it on a PII with 256 mb of ram |
| 19:36.38 | MaximLevitsky | Well... I don't want to argue about that :-), but comparing to KDE3 |
| 19:37.22 | MaximLevitsky | And what the fate of konqueror? |
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| 19:37.37 | stdin | konqueror is the default web browser |
| 19:37.39 | maki | it should be faster, but lets wait till its bug free |
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| 19:37.44 | idol | Armand, of course! But the first time at irc and non-native... awesome! 0_o |
| 19:37.45 | MaximLevitsky | I love it, but it seems to be abadoned |
| 19:38.02 | Armand | idol: Good stuff. ^_^ |
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| 19:38.10 | Bille | MaximLevitsky: are you maxim orlovich trolling? |
| 19:38.18 | stdin | it's not abandoned, it's just perfect so no one needs to work on it :p |
| 19:38.20 | MaximLevitsky | No sir! |
| 19:38.29 | maki | MaximLevitsky Konqueror in KDE4 is faster than in KDE3 |
| 19:38.31 | MaximLevitsky | I will never troll |
| 19:38.44 | MaximLevitsky | And never did |
| 19:38.45 | Bille | MaximLevitsky: because maxim orlovich is working 18 hours a day on konqueror atm ;) |
| 19:38.56 | Bille | so maybe you are him looking for some compliments ;) |
| 19:39.05 | MaximLevitsky | I am maxim levitsky |
| 19:39.06 | maki | :D LOL |
| 19:40.35 | idol | maki, no way! well, may be it's true, but not for 433 celeron %) |
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| 19:41.50 | SimAtWork | please make him work 22 hoursa day |
| 19:42.00 | SimAtWork | :) |
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| 19:42.33 | maki | 24x7x4x12 :) |
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| 19:43.04 | idol | 0_0 wha da... ? :/ |
| 19:43.23 | maki | MaximLevitsky on konqueror you have also khtml kio ... |
| 19:43.40 | maki | its not just the UI that needs to get improved |
| 19:43.52 | MaximLevitsky | Probably those are just my worries, I was worring about Compiz fusion thsat it is very slow, untill I discovered that I need the "Loose bindings" to make it work great |
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| 19:44.22 | maki | konqueror in KDE4 is quite fast |
| 19:44.31 | MaximLevitsky | Probably when KDE4 is released it will be much better |
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| 19:45.09 | MaximLevitsky | Btw konqueror is fast already, I don't have complains about that |
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| 19:45.27 | maki | well its faster now :) |
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| 19:45.58 | maki | if its litle faster it would do the job before you give the command :D |
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| 19:46.19 | idol | не биндом единым... mm... I can't translate it, but sometimes lags jast drive me mad... it's time to return to gnome %) |
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| 19:47.27 | tuxick | i ran into a konqueror/javascript problem and not sure if it's the javascript or the browser: 2 password dialogs with "onchange="check_password(this.id);" |
| 19:47.51 | tuxick | i mean 2 password inputs, second to verify |
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| 19:48.48 | tuxick | onces you type mismatching pass i keep getting "password mismatch" popup every time i try to select anything in this form |
| 19:48.57 | idol | I think it are non-straight hands of web-designer $) |
| 19:49.07 | tuxick | i'm not sure |
| 19:49.25 | idol | but I'm shure =) |
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| 19:49.40 | tuxick | how can i undo an onchange then? |
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| 19:50.08 | idol | F5 0_o |
| 19:50.43 | idol | or find "try again" button |
| 19:52.22 | idol | щк гыу щзукфююю |
| 19:52.26 | idol | oops =) |
| 19:52.31 | tuxick | found it, it insisted on only allowing the second input |
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| 19:53.07 | tuxick | while i was trying to change the first one :) |
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| 19:53.42 | tuxick | completely logical behaviour for an onchange |
| 19:53.44 | idol | nothing to say that it used to be... What can I do? (c) =) |
| 19:54.48 | idol | бля, люди, русские есть? скажите уже хоть один сервак нормальный, я заебался среди пендосов торчать! |
| 19:56.37 | maki | today rc 1 will come out ? |
| 19:56.51 | idol | RRrrrRrrRrR... ya.ru rulezz... try to find native server %) |
| 19:57.05 | idol | rc 1 of what? |
| 19:57.48 | idol | mmm... I have one... let me see... |
| 19:58.31 | maki | no |
| 19:58.49 | maki | on wikipedia it stands 20 november |
| 19:58.58 | idol | oh i have second beta, sorry |
| 19:58.59 | maki | it should be 30 |
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| 20:02.11 | idol | Urgleflogue: ЧЕЛ!!!! =))))))))) Судя по ийпишнику ты наш чел! Скажи хоть один наш сервак, будь другом =))) |
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| 20:06.15 | fsgaston | kiosk admin tool does not seem to be working in suse 10.2, does anybody have any suggestions? |
| 20:06.22 | fsgaston | sorry suse 10.3 |
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| 20:07.50 | idol | madriva works as a clock... =) |
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| 20:09.13 | idol | бывайте чтоль... черти полосатые... Пойду искать своих... а то шота стремно йопт... I mean bye, people! |
| 20:09.18 | Bille | fsgaston: like how? |
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| 20:09.54 | fsgaston | Bille - once I create a kiosk and apply it, when I log in as that user, nothing shows up. |
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| 20:10.09 | fsgaston | I have been using Kiosk for years, so I don't think it is a stupid problem and other schools have |
| 20:10.13 | fsgaston | told me they had the same problem |
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| 20:10.47 | Bille | fsgaston: can you bug report that at bugzilla.novell.com and i'll take a look tomorrow |
| 20:11.02 | free1 | not sure if anyone has encountered this before... but when I ssh into another server, after I type 'startkde' it won't start up the gui |
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| 20:11.14 | free1 | and it appears that the x server is running |
| 20:11.21 | free1 | any ideas? |
| 20:11.25 | fsgaston | Bille, will do? |
| 20:11.36 | Bille | alright, thanks |
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| 20:13.17 | fsgaston | Bille, what Classification should I choose and product? |
| 20:13.37 | Bille | fsgaston: opensuse 10.3, KDE |
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| 20:16.52 | free1 | yes, ctrl alt backspce restarts the x server no my local machine |
| 20:17.15 | free1 | but on the server I ssh into, how would I do that- via commandline? |
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| 20:20.55 | ilgreyfox | path-to-remote/etc/init.d/xdm restart |
| 20:21.25 | free1 | ok, I'll try this |
| 20:23.17 | free1 | ilgreyfox- xdm is not a directory, no? |
| 20:23.30 | ilgreyfox | yep |
| 20:23.39 | ilgreyfox | that's not a directory |
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| 20:24.27 | free1 | so in the /etc/init.d , should I type, ' xdm restart'? |
| 20:24.33 | free1 | sorry for the noob question |
| 20:24.45 | ilgreyfox | :) yes, you should |
| 20:25.17 | free1 | :) |
| 20:25.25 | free1 | much appreciated |
| 20:25.28 | free1 | umm |
| 20:25.43 | free1 | it tells me 'only root wants to run xdm' among other error messages |
| 20:25.50 | ilgreyfox | of course |
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| 20:26.05 | ilgreyfox | you should be root |
| 20:26.06 | free1 | really? |
| 20:26.35 | free1 | I'm not, I'm a user on the server... which refuses to 'startkde' |
| 20:26.58 | free1 | when I type it in |
| 20:27.59 | free1 | I kinda figured I would need root, or su, privileges to restart x |
| 20:28.30 | ilgreyfox | if you want to restart x you need to be root |
| 20:29.04 | free1 | right. any other possiblities to starting kde from the command line besides 'startkde' |
| 20:29.08 | free1 | ? |
| 20:29.13 | ilgreyfox | can't you access that server as root? |
| 20:29.30 | free1 | nope |
| 20:29.39 | free1 | I'm just a user on the server. |
| 20:29.45 | ilgreyfox | which errors with "startkde"? |
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| 20:31.07 | free1 | hmm... |
| 20:31.14 | free1 | now just blnakness... |
| 20:31.18 | free1 | one moment, please |
| 20:32.56 | Bille | fsgaston: heh, critical usually mean "thousands of peoples pants on fire" but thanks for the report |
| 20:33.03 | free1 | unable to create io slave |
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| 20:33.32 | Bille | fsgaston: can you give us some more information, exact steps to reproduce, details of the kiosk settings you made in the profile? |
| 20:33.47 | free1 | don't know if that tells you anything |
| 20:33.56 | gr3yf0x | mh no |
| 20:33.57 | benJIman | Bille: Are all the x86_64 packages actually missing then? |
| 20:33.58 | gr3yf0x | but.. |
| 20:34.14 | benJIman | oops wrong channel |
| 20:34.19 | gr3yf0x | i can't understand why you're trying to launch startkde via ssh on another machine |
| 20:34.20 | gr3yf0x | :D |
| 20:34.21 | Bille | benJIman: just some qt packages when i looked |
| 20:34.39 | benJIman | Bille: libkde4 isn't there for a start |
| 20:34.58 | Bille | benJIman: #opensuse-kde |
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| 20:43.18 | maki | is there a way to make ksim run in the background |
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| 20:45.44 | aleksanteri | maki: ksim & |
| 20:46.07 | aleksanteri | maki: if you want it to be completely silent, use: ksim 2>&1 >/dev/null & |
| 20:47.09 | maki | aleksanteri: i dont want ksim to take space from my windows |
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| 20:47.32 | aleksanteri | maki: ah i see |
| 20:47.40 | maki | i like it to act as super karamba wiget, on the desktop background |
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| 20:48.06 | aleksanteri | hmm right. |
| 20:48.49 | aleksanteri | well you could right-click on the border, first select "advanced -> keep below others" and then "advanced -> no border" |
| 20:49.37 | maki | on wich border? |
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| 21:16.12 | Esteth | Anyone know of official KDE4Rc1 debs for ubuntu gutsy? |
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| 21:16.51 | aleksanteri | Esteth: apt-cache search kde4 |
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| 21:17.29 | Esteth | aleksanteri: There's plenty of KDE4 debs, but i don't think they're RC1 yet |
| 21:18.43 | Tm_T | Esteth: no there's not any yet |
| 21:19.11 | Esteth | Tm_T: Ok, guess i'll wait 'till the debs work their way into the archives |
| 21:19.34 | Tm_T | Esteth: watch kubuntu.org, it will have announcement when they're available |
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| 21:20.00 | DEac- | moin |
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| 21:20.04 | Esteth | okies |
| 21:20.52 | DEac- | i want to attache a vcard to my emails all the time. how i can set up it, that it's automatical? |
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| 21:28.24 | elisa | I want to install the program kile for latex but there's this error: |
| 21:28.36 | even | i have a problem with kopete, when i try add a account got this in konsole output: |
| 21:28.37 | even | QFile::open: No file name specified |
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| 21:29.07 | elisa | \begin{itemize} |
| 21:29.08 | elisa | \item Amplificatore patch clamp |
| 21:29.08 | elisa | \end{itemize} |
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| 21:29.55 | elisa | the error is: the kde-base/ksync package conflicts with another package |
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| 21:30.51 | goodhabit | Hello! I am looking for SIP (voip) client for KDE. |
| 21:31.22 | goodhabit | Give me some advice please. |
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| 21:33.15 | FiNeX | hi |
| 21:34.28 | tuxick | goodhabit: kphone? |
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| 21:35.26 | Bille | goodhabit: kcall |
| 21:35.34 | tuxick | goodhabit: also check out twinkle |
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| 21:35.50 | tuxick | last time i tried it it seemed to actually work |
| 21:35.50 | goodhabit | Thanks very much people! |
| 21:35.55 | goodhabit | You are best! |
| 21:35.57 | goodhabit | ^) |
| 21:36.34 | tuxick | twinkle has biggest icons :) |
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| 21:39.29 | ambro | why does kmix crash every time I log in ? |
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| 21:39.55 | thiago_home | it doesn't crash here |
| 21:39.57 | thiago_home | so I can't answer |
| 21:40.09 | ambro | it says signal 5 |
| 21:40.21 | thiago_home | 5? |
| 21:40.53 | thiago_home | SIGTRAP |
| 21:40.58 | thiago_home | that doesn't make sense at all |
| 21:41.11 | ambro | it's not 11 I'm sure |
| 21:41.19 | thiago_home | try another one then |
| 21:41.20 | tuxick | a debug version? |
| 21:41.21 | thiago_home | it can't be 5 |
| 21:42.03 | ambro | only crashed on autostart, when I run again it starts but the volumes are all messed up |
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| 21:43.20 | ambro | how do I debug it anyway ? |
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| 21:45.31 | john__ | is there a fedora channel, i have a question about configuring the boot loader? |
| 21:45.49 | thiago_home | #fedora |
| 21:45.59 | thiago_home | ambro: find out if it's really signal 5 |
| 21:46.08 | ambro | just a sec |
| 21:46.08 | thiago_home | if it is, something is really wrong with your installation |
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| 21:47.00 | john__ | Sorry, hat to be a retard, but konversation keeps telling me that i need to be identified to join the channel #fedora |
| 21:47.40 | Bille | john__: /msg NickServ help |
| 21:48.28 | Bille | john__: you can configure konversation to identify yourself to nickserv on connect, in the identity settings. ok? |
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| 21:49.00 | thiago_home | better yet, on Freenode, set your nickserv password as the IRC connection password |
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| 21:50.12 | ambro | well kmix fails to crash now but it crashed at least two times in a row before... strage |
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| 21:50.34 | tuxick | using arts? |
| 21:50.42 | ambro | yes |
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| 21:50.56 | Bille | thiago_home: is that passed thru to nickserv? |
| 21:51.56 | tuxick | goodhabit: btw my notes say kphoneSI, not kphone |
| 21:52.02 | tuxick | but twinkle is nicer anyway |
| 21:52.33 | goodhabit | Thanks. I am looking for screenshots and thinking. |
| 21:52.45 | goodhabit | tuxick: So twinkle is cooler? |
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| 21:53.04 | goodhabit | I am looking for cool and beautiful client. |
| 21:53.05 | goodhabit | ) |
| 21:53.08 | stdin | Bille: not sure exactly how it works, but when you connect you get the standard "-NickServ- This nickname is owned by someone else", then "Password accepted - you are now recognized" instantly |
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| 21:53.38 | Bille | stdin: ic |
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| 21:55.02 | Sho_ | Bille: yes |
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| 21:59.29 | john__ | NickServ help register |
| 21:59.46 | JordanC | :P |
| 21:59.47 | Sho_ | john__: /msg nickserv help register |
| 21:59.50 | JordanC | Winner! |
| 21:59.54 | MinceR | or /quote or /raw |
| 21:59.56 | MinceR | :) |
| 22:00.01 | JordanC | Try /ns help REGISTER |
| 22:00.02 | JordanC | :) |
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| 22:00.51 | even | how can i see mounted fish connection in user desktop ? |
| 22:00.54 | tuxick | konqueror ignoring <img> alt/title tags, is that a setting somewhere? |
| 22:00.59 | goodhabit | john__: please read this while you register: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup - instructions on setting up your nick 'the freenode way' :) |
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| 22:04.22 | john__ | This is annoying, ille just ask my question here and see if anyone has any suggestions, I installed fedora on a partition on my system. I also have ubuntu installed onto another partition. Fedora uses grub, but doesn't use a menu.lst. Normally I would just edit the menu.lst file and add the entries for the other kernels, but menu.lst isn't a file |
| 22:04.37 | john__ | it's a simlink |
| 22:04.44 | JordanC | To? |
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| 22:05.07 | john__ | I think grub.conf, which isn't editable either |
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| 22:05.49 | goodhabit | john__: So what's the problem? |
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| 22:06.41 | john__ | I cannot edit anything or change anythign to get ubuntu to load, the only option the current configureation gives me is to load fedora, I need to be able to load both |
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| 22:08.04 | RushPL | lady buggin' ROCKS! |
| 22:08.43 | goodhabit | john__: So this is not problem. You cannot find configuration file for grub @ suse, right? |
| 22:09.36 | goodhabit | john__: ping. |
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| 22:10.05 | john__ | never mind! |
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| 22:10.22 | thiago_home | Bille: yes |
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| 22:10.43 | Bille | thiago_home: yeah, i read the link goodhabit posted |
| 22:10.52 | Bille | thiago_home: want a laugh? |
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| 22:11.54 | thiago_home | Bille: sure |
| 22:12.13 | Bille | thiago_home: sniff a Giver session |
| 22:12.35 | Bille | they have a rather interesting reinterpretation of HTTP going on there. |
| 22:12.37 | thiago_home | come again? |
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| 22:13.09 | Bille | this thing http://code.google.com/p/giver/ |
| 22:13.10 | benJIman | What does it do? |
| 22:13.16 | benJIman | That's anti-http? |
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| 22:14.02 | Bille | benJIman: just have a look at it for the best effect. |
| 22:14.10 | Bille | we're trying to write a kde client for it |
| 22:14.13 | benJIman | Bille: Too much effort. |
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| 22:14.48 | benJIman | What does it do that's wrong? |
| 22:15.35 | thiago_home | Bille: no compiler for that language installed :-) |
| 22:15.48 | thiago_home | Bille: but a quick look reveals it is using Avahi, so it's DNS-SD |
| 22:16.11 | thiago_home | finding other users and publishing the service should be therefore trivial |
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| 22:16.53 | FiNeX | n8! |
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| 22:18.50 | GnuKemist | hi there... how can I restart the sound daemon in KDE? |
| 22:18.59 | wolfmankurd | go tocontrol center |
| 22:19.20 | wolfmankurd | sound&multimedia |
| 22:19.29 | wolfmankurd | soudn system |
| 22:19.47 | wolfmankurd | and check enable the sound system (or uncheck then check) |
| 22:20.33 | GnuKemist | wolfmankurd: you see, my system is picking up my webcam as the sound device... I've run alsaconf and re-configured it but somehow it still doesn't detect it |
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| 22:31.10 | wolfmankurd | hey |
| 22:31.12 | wolfmankurd | erm,, |
| 22:31.37 | wolfmankurd | whats is your camera chipset and stuff? you probably need ot install the drivers for the thingy |
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| 22:37.41 | rakyr | kwalletmanager leaves the passwords i copy into firefox in the clipboard. is there another way? |
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| 22:48.18 | rakyr | the kwalletmanager handbook is really freakin short. i think i may be able to use 'maps' to insert my password information, but i don't know |
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| 22:49.10 | p4r0l3 | I'm having problems moving files from within konqueror, though I can move them fine via a terminal under my user |
| 22:49.22 | p4r0l3 | I always receive the error "Disk Full" but I've 6gb free |
| 22:49.28 | p4r0l3 | anyone heard of this happening? |
| 22:49.44 | thiago_home | any filesystems full? |
| 22:50.07 | kexman | hi there can anyone name a program to controll the cpu frequency from kde ? i have cpu freq scaling set to userland |
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| 22:50.56 | thiago_home | kexman: I use klaptopdaemon |
| 22:51.17 | thiago_home | and I keep my governor at "conservative" |
| 22:51.57 | Bille | kexman: kpowersave, too |
| 22:52.23 | kexman | well klaptopdaemon cant set the freq only the governor type |
| 22:52.28 | kexman | kpowersave can do that ? |
| 22:52.46 | thiago_home | kexman: yes, isn't that the objective? |
| 22:52.49 | thiago_home | why would you want to set the frequency directly? |
| 22:53.09 | p4r0l3 | Konqueror sees the disk as 100% full |
| 22:53.14 | p4r0l3 | but I can create files on it as root |
| 22:53.29 | p4r0l3 | and I've chowned the mount to my user as well as tried chmod'ing the files |
| 22:53.33 | thiago_home | p4r0l3: ok, let me repeat: are any of the filesystems full, as per df? |
| 22:53.38 | p4r0l3 | no. |
| 22:53.40 | Bille | p4r0l3: there was a reiserfs kernel bug that was giving fake out of inodes errors... but root wouldn't be able to work around that |
| 22:53.47 | p4r0l3 | yeah i'm using ext3 |
| 22:53.55 | kexman | thiago_home: lets say i want to test something and i want my cpu on FULL POWER :) |
| 22:53.59 | p4r0l3 | karamba sees my 6gb free space |
| 22:54.03 | p4r0l3 | just not konqueror |
| 22:54.08 | Bille | p4r0l3: how big is the disk and how much of it is reserved for root then? |
| 22:54.19 | thiago_home | kexman: change to "performance" governor |
| 22:54.22 | p4r0l3 | 290gb partition |
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| 22:54.32 | kexman | well problem is that i cant change it to that |
| 22:54.40 | kexman | dont have that |
| 22:54.42 | p4r0l3 | I can touch files and move them via command line as user |
| 22:54.45 | p4r0l3 | I don't have to be root |
| 22:54.51 | thiago_home | p4r0l3: if you run "df", do any of the filesystems show 0 free? |
| 22:54.54 | kexman | i couldnt built it in nor as a kernel when i built my kernel |
| 22:55.25 | p4r0l3 | thiago_home: yes, that partition |
| 22:55.34 | thiago_home | p4r0l3: then free up some space. |
| 22:55.41 | thiago_home | p4r0l3: your partition IS full. |
| 22:55.45 | p4r0l3 | um no |
| 22:55.48 | p4r0l3 | 6gb free |
| 22:55.53 | thiago_home | um yes |
| 22:55.53 | p4r0l3 | can still copy to it |
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| 22:55.58 | thiago_home | didn't df show 0? |
| 22:56.01 | p4r0l3 | yes |
| 22:56.04 | thiago_home | then it's full |
| 22:56.16 | p4r0l3 | then how the hell can i write to it outside of konqueror? |
| 22:56.20 | thiago_home | as root? |
| 22:56.23 | p4r0l3 | and as user |
| 22:56.35 | thiago_home | I don't know |
| 22:56.38 | thiago_home | I don't use ext3 |
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| 22:56.48 | Bille | thiago_home: how do you get the %age of reserved space with tune2fs? |
| 22:56.59 | thiago_home | in any case, Konqueror sees that it's full (df shows 0), so it refuses to work |
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| 22:57.10 | thiago_home | there isn't much that you can do if your system says it is full |
| 22:57.10 | Bille | p4r0l3: try tune2fs -m 0 /dev/<partitiondevice> |
| 22:57.14 | thiago_home | Bille: it's generally 5% |
| 22:57.18 | Bille | thiago_home: i know that. |
| 22:57.36 | thiago_home | which matches his symtoms (5% of 300 GB is 6GB) |
| 22:57.52 | Bille | hrm, did his kde session crash due to no space, or did he piss off in a tantrum? |
| 22:58.15 | thiago_home | he left the channel, so no crash |
| 22:58.18 | Bille | true |
| 22:58.30 | SimAtWork | i've filled up a drive before and nothing seems to crash |
| 22:58.36 | SimAtWork | but it scares me when i do it :) |
| 22:58.54 | thiago_home | Kontact always aborts when that happens |
| 22:59.12 | Bille | yeah, i as going to say, kmail doesn't like running out of space |
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| 23:00.13 | Bille | [23:57] <Bille> p4r0l3: try tune2fs -m 0 /dev/<partitiondevice> |
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| 23:05.40 | Bille | p4r0l3: and standard disclaimer about running commands as root as suggested by random people on IRC applies, read the manpage and think. |
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| 23:08.27 | p4r0l3 | Bille: thanks bro! didn't realize you could deallocate reserved root space |
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| 23:08.30 | Bille | p4r0l3: yw |
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| 23:08.30 | p4r0l3 | I left after I realized it was due to reserved root space that I couldn't write to my mount and thus was not a #kde problem |
| 23:08.31 | p4r0l3 | not as an act of an "impatient little kid" |
| 23:08.31 | p4r0l3 | ;) |
| 23:08.31 | Bille | np :) |
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| 23:27.16 | Ch1ppy | hey, where does one go for help with the KDE4 RC? |
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| 23:29.06 | stdin | Ch1ppy: #kde4-devel |
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| 23:29.14 | Ch1ppy | stdin: thanks :) |
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