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| 00:09.38 | tehcheez | Hey, how would I configure volume up/down and mute keys in KDE? |
| 00:09.52 | tehcheez | (I've been living under GNOME for too long ;)) |
| 00:10.11 | gangleri | Hi is Thomas Friedrichsmeier here ? |
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| 00:15.02 | gangleri | Hi who maintains http://bugs.kde.org/ see http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=154841 Bug 154841: KDE Bug Tracking System should generate UTF-8 compatible emails |
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| 00:21.20 | Tatsh | why not delete ~/.kde |
| 00:21.33 | Tatsh | is there a better way to get defaults back |
| 00:21.55 | apriori | Tatsh: defaults of what exactly? |
| 00:22.04 | Tatsh | for kde and all its apps |
| 00:22.08 | Jucato | yes. move/remove the appropriate config files in ~/.kde/share/config/ |
| 00:22.19 | sredna | Tatsh: you should rather move ~/.kde than delete it, because it contains a lot of your personal data except just configuration |
| 00:22.22 | Tatsh | i switched distros thinking things would work but everything has always been a bit weird |
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| 00:22.45 | apriori | Tatsh: well, I'd go with Jucato's solution |
| 00:22.54 | apriori | remove/move all config files you wish to default |
| 00:23.00 | apriori | e.g. _not_ kmail, kontact etc. |
| 00:23.13 | Tatsh | ok |
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| 00:23.32 | Tatsh | i made a new user and made a decent kde setup on that |
| 00:23.41 | Tatsh | it was way better than the migrated user from kubuntu to gentoo |
| 00:24.22 | gangleri | can anybody confirm https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=154840 Bug 154840: BiDi issue in KDE window titles - multiple windows having title foo, foo <n> thaT's an easy one |
| 00:24.44 | pinda | hello people. I have recently compiled kde4 from svn using de kdesvn-build script. Almost everything compiles and works, but I have some issues compiling extragear/graphics. |
| 00:25.13 | boom1992 | pinda: pls post the error message |
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| 00:25.31 | pinda | can anybody help me with that? I'm eager to test the new digikam and gwenview... the error I get in cmake.log is: |
| 00:25.51 | Jucato | (please use a pastebin pinda) |
| 00:25.52 | pinda | CMake Error: IMLIB_DIR is not set. It must be set to the directory containingIMLIBConfig.cmake in order to use IMLIB. |
| 00:26.23 | pinda | do you guys need the entire log file? in that case I will use pastebin... |
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| 00:27.01 | Jucato | hm.. maybe no need... |
| 00:27.25 | Jucato | is imlib or imlib2 installed? (whichever is required) |
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| 00:28.28 | boom1992 | pinda: extragear-graphics is broken for dashbot too |
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| 00:29.03 | boom1992 | pinda: http://developer.kde.org/~dirk/dashboard/ |
| 00:29.27 | pinda | hmm, then it makes sence that I'm having trouble... I have the packages libimlib2, libimlib2-dev imleb11 and imlib11-dev installed |
| 00:30.40 | pinda | but I see there's also a virtual package imlib-development... should I install that? |
| 00:31.23 | pinda | oh, never mind that... it's allready installed |
| 00:33.44 | pinda | Ok, but since it's also broken for dashboard, does that mean the developers are busy with extragear/graphics, and I'll just have to wait a few days? Or should I file a bug report? |
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| 00:34.24 | adamt_ | it means that it'll probably be fixed. |
| 00:35.12 | adamt_ | i don't think you need to file bugreports when it doesn't even compile for dashbot, but you *could* complain on the mailing lists, pinda :-) |
| 00:35.13 | pinda | ok, in that case I'll just wait a couple of days and try again... |
| 00:35.30 | pinda | thank for helping! |
| 00:35.52 | adamt_ | yw |
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| 00:42.21 | pinda | I'm also curious btw if work has allready started on a kde4 akregator. Anybody here who knows that? |
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| 00:57.13 | root_ | hi |
| 00:57.22 | root_ | i'm new here |
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| 00:58.05 | goodhabit | Hello. Is kde4 usable for now? |
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| 01:03.34 | kdepepo | goodhabit, http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/3174 |
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| 01:04.58 | hdevalence | is there a way to sync the X mouse-select clipboard and the ^X/^C/^V clipboard? |
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| 01:06.26 | Jucato | hdevalence: right-click on Klipper -> Configure Klipper |
| 01:06.47 | hdevalence | Jucato: thx |
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| 01:07.10 | HS^ | isnt there something like tomboy for kde |
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| 01:07.19 | HS^ | its so simple progrm.. but so usefull |
| 01:07.29 | pinotree | knotes? |
| 01:07.35 | HS^ | ok |
| 01:07.39 | pinotree | (no "wiki syntax" though) |
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| 01:08.04 | Jucato | basket? |
| 01:08.33 | goodhabit | kdepepo, thanks, it helped me to understand. |
| 01:09.12 | hdevalence | btw, anybody know about xrandr? |
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| 01:13.37 | jcg42 | I'm running Amarok 1.4.8 using KDE 3.5.8 in GNOME with Ubuntu. When I try to start the weekalarm script I get this: http://img145.imageshack.us/my.php?image=weekalarmerrorim4.png. Can anyone tell me how I can fix it? |
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| 01:14.46 | Jucato | jcg42: just a hunch... is pyqt installed? |
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| 01:20.09 | goodhabit | kdepepo, btw, why so big banner @ kde.org with Dream idea? When is kde4 will be released? +|- I mean. |
| 01:21.51 | Jucato | when? there's a reason there's a two-digit number in that (big?) banner... |
| 01:21.59 | Jucato | (and it's not big... really) |
| 01:22.00 | brot | goodhabit: look at the banner ;) |
| 01:22.31 | jcg42 | Jucato: That worked, Thanks! |
| 01:22.42 | cheko | goodhabit: 4.1 tagging, 11.1 release |
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| 01:45.02 | cn28h | I installed dekorator but not sure how to enable it.. I logged out and back in, and tried kwin --replace. But I don't get the extra tabs in control center. I'm reading the kde-look directions for installing it, but I don't see anything else. Do I need to enable it somewhere? |
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| 01:46.25 | Jucato | cn28h: KControl -> Appearance & Themes -> Window Decoration. choose deKorator from the drop down list of window decorations |
| 01:46.54 | cn28h | oh, duh. Right on, thanks :) |
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| 01:53.31 | brot | CMake Error: Error in cmake code at |
| 01:53.31 | brot | /var/tmp/portage/kde-base/kdelibs-9999.4/work/kdelibs_build/kdeui/cmake_install.cmake:39: |
| 01:53.31 | brot | FILE INSTALL cannot find file "/var/tmp/portage/kde-base/kdelibs-9999.4/work/kdelibs-9999.4/kdeui/dialogs/ktip-background.png" to install. |
| 01:55.20 | crazy | brot: svn up |
| 01:56.01 | brot | jup |
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| 02:37.46 | bluekb | would it be possible to configure firefox (or gnome) to use konqueror/kde as a file browser and file selector? |
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| 02:41.05 | dasKreech | configure maybe not. Recode and recompile? Sure |
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| 02:43.24 | bluekb | I haaaate gnome. |
| 02:44.15 | bluekb | But I can't get away from it. (I like firefox too much, for one) |
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| 02:47.58 | dasKreech | Firefox is not Gnome |
| 02:48.05 | dasKreech | never has been never will be |
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| 03:33.08 | bluekb | dasKreech, but that doesn't mean it can't interoperate with kde apps. BTW, I found the answer to my question. |
| 03:33.33 | dasKreech | bluekb: being? |
| 03:34.36 | dasKreech | Please say yes :) |
| 03:34.53 | dasKreech | Though I can't think why I would want KDE dialogs in Firefox |
| 03:35.54 | Lanken | dasKreech: wtf? because they're GREAT. |
| 03:36.06 | Lanken | dasKreech: the dialogs in firefox irritate the shit out of me. |
| 03:36.28 | dasKreech | Lanken: I don't use Firefox that much and sure as hell not to download unless I'm using DTA |
| 03:36.41 | Lanken | DTA? |
| 03:36.45 | dasKreech | in which case the dialog is exactly what I want |
| 03:37.14 | dasKreech | https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/201 |
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| 03:38.13 | dasKreech | If i could get something like that for KDE that would be uber? |
| 03:38.16 | dasKreech | -? |
| 03:39.21 | dasKreech | bluekb: But yes Firefox should in theory integrate in KDE but ... |
| 03:40.41 | Lanken | dasKreech: do you mean having a qt interface for a gecko-based firefox browser? |
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| 03:43.35 | dasKreech | Naw that's been done |
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| 03:44.46 | dasKreech | I mean having a regular expression mass downloader/spider util |
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| 03:49.30 | arrrghhh | hey all, i'm having serious clipboard issues - ŸŸ that keeps ending up in my clipboard no matter what i try to copy/paste.... klipper shows it as well. |
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| 03:52.39 | iCEifer | hello all, can anyone tell me how I can determine the amount of video mem available to my video card that Sabayon has access to? |
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| 03:56.48 | rohanpm | arrrghhh: try quitting klipper |
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| 03:57.07 | arrrghhh | rohanpm: i did |
| 03:57.09 | arrrghhh | it's not clipper |
| 03:57.14 | arrrghhh | i've seen this happen in xfce |
| 03:57.14 | rohanpm | ok |
| 03:57.21 | arrrghhh | i'm just saying klipper shows the screwup |
| 03:57.38 | rohanpm | oh, well I've seen it before and klipper seemed to be causing it, because quitting it fixed the problem :-) |
| 03:57.53 | arrrghhh | yea i wish it was that easy |
| 03:57.57 | arrrghhh | and restarting used to fix it |
| 03:57.59 | arrrghhh | but it's not anymore |
| 03:58.54 | dasKreech | arrrghhh: is it an X error? |
| 03:59.05 | dasKreech | well yeah X has a clipboard cli doesnt |
| 03:59.10 | arrrghhh | dasKreech: i'm not sure... is there a surefire way to tell? |
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| 03:59.31 | dasKreech | arrrghhh: It's almost assuredly X |
| 03:59.39 | arrrghhh | ok |
| 03:59.42 | arrrghhh | so how do i fix it |
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| 04:01.21 | dasKreech | Dunno never had that happen to me |
| 04:02.54 | rohanpm | it's not necessarily X's fault though |
| 04:03.42 | arrrghhh | ok |
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| 04:03.59 | arrrghhh | this is really quite frustrating, i've had it happen on my work machine and my home machine |
| 04:04.11 | arrrghhh | and i was blaming xfce at first, but now it's happening in kde as well |
| 04:04.16 | dasKreech | You have a virus!! Aiiieeeeeee! |
| 04:04.29 | arrrghhh | lmao |
| 04:04.42 | arrrghhh | the linux virus that turns your clipboard to goo |
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| 04:06.56 | spawn57 | I remember a virus got people on linux through wine |
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| 04:08.40 | arrrghhh | so yea... no one can help me |
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| 04:10.12 | dasKreech | arrrghhh: ##linux ? |
| 04:10.28 | arrrghhh | i'm there |
| 04:10.34 | arrrghhh | and #kubuntu |
| 04:12.29 | arrrghhh | no one has even responded in ##linux |
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| 04:12.31 | arrrghhh | i guess my problem is too hard |
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| 04:14.58 | dasKreech | heehee no it's just unusual |
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| 04:17.57 | foibles | hi there, how do you reset the kde wallet password? |
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| 04:18.05 | foibles | i forgot what i entered for it a long time ago |
| 04:18.48 | |zeal| | when will kde4 be officially released ? |
| 04:19.19 | derek_k | foibles: open your wallet and change password. otherwise ~/.kde/share/apps/kwallet contains the wallet files |
| 04:19.23 | arrrghhh | |zeal|: this info is readily avaliable |
| 04:19.59 | |zeal| | arrrghhh: oh....... |
| 04:20.15 | dasKreech | 10 days |
| 04:20.40 | |zeal| | Actually I mean when will it appear in debian sid :) |
| 04:21.09 | dasKreech | #debian ? |
| 04:21.38 | |zeal| | dasKreech: oh.............. |
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| 04:22.37 | dasKreech | We don't package for distros so when they do it is up to them |
| 04:23.14 | |zeal| | dasKreech: got it :) |
| 04:24.11 | |zeal| | I just can't wait to use kde4,lalal...... :) |
| 04:24.54 | Skyblast | What will be the default media player in KDE4? |
| 04:25.01 | |zeal| | hmmm, seems a little quiet here, are there any other channels for kde ? |
| 04:25.28 | dasKreech | |zeal|: Why wait SVN awaits? |
| 04:25.32 | Skyblast | I prefer Kaffeine but saw on the forums it won't be avaialable for KDE4.0, at least not "natively". Something about phonon not having all the necessary features |
| 04:26.18 | dasKreech | |zeal|: this is the noisiest quiet channel ever |
| 04:27.01 | |zeal| | dasKreech: I think SVN head is still not stable enough.......,I never build kde from source myself |
| 04:27.30 | |zeal| | Skyblast: I think smplayer is pretty cool |
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| 04:28.02 | |zeal| | Skyblast: Kaffeine seems to sometimes fail to load my sub files |
| 04:28.49 | dasKreech | Dragon player |
| 04:29.57 | |zeal| | dasKreech: dragon player? never heard of that .... |
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| 04:30.31 | dasKreech | |zeal|: You would if you did SVN head :) |
| 04:32.44 | |zeal| | dasKreech: hmm, seems its a fresh new thing, does it support chinese sub files ? |
| 04:32.55 | dasKreech | Should |
| 04:33.01 | dasKreech | It's a Dragon! |
| 04:33.26 | dasKreech | Tell the cops that I’m gonna rape you and your sister.” |
| 04:33.28 | dasKreech | Not the most successful chat up line in my experience :lol: |
| 04:33.35 | |zeal| | dasKreech: OMG, why should a player have such a huge name LOL |
| 04:34.02 | |zeal| | dasKreech: I am a guy, man |
| 04:34.15 | |zeal| | dasKreech: and I have no sisters |
| 04:34.16 | dasKreech | Windows Media Player 11 Crashy edition ? |
| 04:35.14 | |zeal| | dasKreech: I will prefer using a bullshit to play my movies than using WMP |
| 04:35.37 | dasKreech | |zeal|: Oh not you. Some guy was stalking a girl he saw on Xbox and tracked her down after .. tracking her down and sending her flowers and Chocolate and she returned them drove to her house and sat outside and sent her that ^^^^ as a SMS |
| 04:36.05 | dasKreech | |zeal|: Longest Media player name I could come up with off the top of my head |
| 04:37.27 | |zeal| | dasKreech: oh, seems like a geek's love story |
| 04:38.33 | spawn57 | dang, #postfix is all quiet |
| 04:39.04 | |zeal| | dasKreech: and by the way, does Xbox have many female players? |
| 04:39.16 | dasKreech | |zeal|: yes. |
| 04:39.23 | dasKreech | Many that admit they are female |
| 04:39.24 | dasKreech | no |
| 04:40.16 | |zeal| | dasKreech: Great! I'd buy one and make the best use of it ---- track pretty girls :D |
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| 04:47.54 | dasKreech | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9gZhZm0aAo <---|zeal| see? some harsh language |
| 04:48.09 | dasKreech | Though if you are getting an XBox then you should get used to that |
| 04:49.12 | Egyptian[Home] | hi .. is there a wm5+ sycning solution available for kde? |
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| 04:51.20 | spawn57 | man that youtube video is crazy lol |
| 04:51.48 | |zeal| | dasKreech: haha, interesting , but I am not that so crazy, lol, I am a good good boy |
| 04:51.52 | |zeal| | :d |
| 04:54.07 | dasKreech | spawn57: I know. now imagine that parked outside your house calling your phone |
| 04:54.29 | spawn57 | ...christ |
| 04:54.55 | spawn57 | wait I live in an high rise apartment complex :D |
| 04:56.11 | dasKreech | Well outside where you are having lunch then :) |
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| 05:02.12 | hdevalence | I can't get gmail's smtp to work in kontact |
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| 05:27.39 | tomahasamoot | Is there an error console applet for KDE? |
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| 05:33.22 | tomahasamoot | I want to see those messages, but I don't want to launch all my apps with a terminal |
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| 07:11.38 | aaargh- | if i put the kde menu bar vertically on the left, is it possible to limit the size of the quick launch icons and menu button if i make the bar wider? |
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| 07:16.41 | aseigo | aaargh-: iirc there's a hidden option.. something like ConserveSpace=true in the [General] group of kickerrc |
| 07:17.22 | Jucato | aseigo!!!!! happy new year!! :) |
| 07:17.28 | aseigo | Jucato: happy new year |
| 07:17.41 | aaargh | aseigo: ho-kay :) thanx |
| 07:17.57 | Jucato | good night aseigo! :) |
| 07:18.34 | aaargh | where would i find kickerrc......? |
| 07:18.58 | Jucato | ~/.kde/share/config/ |
| 07:19.44 | aaargh | too easy :) |
| 07:19.56 | aaargh | wow... lotsa rcs |
| 07:20.26 | Jucato | well, it is the directory for KDE apps' configuration files :) |
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| 07:20.38 | aaargh | lol - i'm a kde n000000b |
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| 07:30.24 | dasKreech | aaargh: good nick then |
| 07:30.37 | aaargh | hehehe :) |
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| 07:44.22 | sparr | gnome's nm-applet can connect to my work vpn just fine. kvpnc says it connects (after i configured the connection in nm-applet), but really just kills my network connectivity. help? |
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| 07:48.38 | bsundsrud | hi, any qt4 gurus still awake? |
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| 07:55.33 | dasKreech | Nope but ask anyway |
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| 07:55.57 | bsundsrud | haha |
| 07:56.01 | Jucato | although #qt (where you already asked) is the better place to ask :) |
| 07:56.08 | bsundsrud | thanks |
| 07:56.15 | Jucato | although it's probably not the best time |
| 07:56.21 | bsundsrud | its about qtableviews mostly |
| 07:57.31 | bsundsrud | basically I want to be able to delete something from the underlying model through manipulation of the view. qt doesnt seem to provide that |
| 07:58.00 | bsundsrud | without subclassing and catching keypresses, and i don't even know if that would work |
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| 08:05.10 | bsundsrud | bah or i could just read the documentation (a little closer) and find QAbstractItemView::keyPressEvent, then use that to delete the currently selected record... |
| 08:06.29 | bsundsrud | is there a way to do a little extra handling then pass it off to the QAbstractItemView key handler? |
| 08:07.41 | Jucato | bsundsrud: I think it would have been a bit obvious by now that this is a kde user support channel. while there maybe be Qt programmers around, the chances of you finding one (at this moment) is slimmer compared to #qt :P |
| 08:08.37 | bsundsrud | yeah well the chance of finding active people in #qt is far slimmer than there :) |
| 08:08.37 | bsundsrud | er here |
| 08:08.37 | Jucato | [15:56] <Jucato> although it's probably not the best time <-- :D |
| 08:08.48 | bsundsrud | yeah i know, i should be asleep. |
| 08:08.58 | Jucato | :P |
| 08:08.59 | bsundsrud | but this problem is driving me nuts |
| 08:09.30 | Jucato | problems have a habit of doing that :) |
| 08:10.02 | bsundsrud | i'm doing a re-write of some software (originally in .NET) using Qt on Windows. Most of it is going swimmingly but the tableview is more flexible yet more finicky than a DataGrid :) |
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| 08:31.36 | kdepepo | http://picpaste.com/AGG-NiceFontRendering.png |
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| 08:37.23 | GNU\colossus | kdepepo: what tech does this screenshot exactly demonstrate? |
| 08:39.41 | kdepepo | GNU\colossus, see http://antigrain.com/research/font_rasterization/index.html |
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| 08:40.11 | kdepepo | I just compiled it under Linux. |
| 08:40.28 | kdepepo | Looks nice, IMHO. |
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| 08:52.51 | misslissa | d |
| 08:53.18 | misslissa | Please some one |
| 08:53.24 | misslissa | how to you link java to mozilla |
| 08:53.31 | misslissa | what command do I use |
| 08:53.54 | Jucato | um... please ask in your Linux distribution's help channel |
| 08:53.59 | misslissa | and where do i even find the file mozilla and mozilla addons to syboliclly link it? |
| 08:54.02 | misslissa | ggrrrrr |
| 08:54.07 | misslissa | no matter where you go |
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| 08:54.14 | misslissa | they tell you to go to a different channel |
| 08:54.28 | Jucato | what distro? |
| 08:54.32 | misslissa | complete runaround when some one could just simply answer a question |
| 08:55.07 | Jucato | not everyone using KDE uses java or mozilla. neither of which are KDE products anyway... |
| 08:55.25 | Jucato | (it's weird if your distro doesn't help you with that, since they provide those packages) |
| 08:55.41 | misslissa | I always use KDE |
| 08:55.44 | misslissa | ok how bout this |
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| 08:55.58 | misslissa | how to I symboliclly link java to Konqeror |
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| 08:56.26 | Jucato | what do you mean by "symbolically link"? |
| 08:57.42 | misslissa | link a program like java to the web browser manually by commands in Konsole so that it is configured correctly |
| 08:57.44 | metres | Hi all, I'd like to translate the krecipes application but I dont know where to procure myself the .po file |
| 08:58.33 | Jucato | misslissa: you don't have to do that. you can just set Konqueror to use the correct java program |
| 08:58.49 | Jucato | in Konqueror, Settings -> Configure Konqueror -> Java & Javascript -> Path to java executable |
| 08:59.00 | misslissa | I have tried EVERYTHING |
| 08:59.07 | misslissa | I cannot get the web site www.pogo.com |
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| 08:59.11 | misslissa | to work correctly |
| 08:59.37 | Jucato | metres: you could try asking in #kde-devel, although it's pretty dead this time of day |
| 08:59.53 | misslissa | I have tried IceApe, Opera, Mozilla, Konqueror ALL will not run this web site! |
| 08:59.56 | metres | Jucato : thanks for the hint Jucato |
| 09:00.48 | misslissa | Yes I ran a java test and it tells me it is installed but yet I go to the web site and |
| 09:00.54 | misslissa | it keeps trying to tell me its not |
| 09:01.20 | Jucato | you ran the java test inside those browsers? |
| 09:01.21 | misslissa | I have tried java plugins version 5, 6, JDK, IceTea, BlackDown |
| 09:01.25 | misslissa | None will work |
| 09:01.33 | misslissa | will some one try to get the web site to work |
| 09:01.37 | misslissa | go to www.pogo.com |
| 09:01.51 | misslissa | and click on one of the games as if you were going to play |
| 09:02.00 | misslissa | and see if it allows you to play |
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| 09:02.10 | misslissa | please... |
| 09:02.11 | misslissa | ?? |
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| 09:03.06 | misslissa | yeah thats what I keep getting |
| 09:03.15 | misslissa | but java is enabled according to the java test |
| 09:03.37 | aaargh | is it possible to make kicker reload it's rc without restarting the kde session? (i don't know how/what order things in kde are loaded and by what... i wish i did... *sigh*) |
| 09:04.12 | Jucato | aaargh: Alt+F2, "dcop kicker kicker restart" |
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| 09:06.57 | misslissa | #aalivingcyber |
| 09:07.09 | Jejem | 33 |
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| 09:16.02 | aaargh | ss |
| 09:16.46 | aaargh | whoo ... it "crashed" :) |
| 09:17.18 | aaargh | kicker twice? it worked, but ... why twice? |
| 09:17.39 | aaargh | (feel free to tell me if i'm just asking dumb questions - but i'm curious about these things...) |
| 09:17.54 | Jucato | aaargh: it doesn't crash. that just restarts it |
| 09:18.10 | aaargh | i know, i got a message telling me it had terminated/crashed unexpectedly :) |
| 09:18.14 | Jucato | O.o |
| 09:18.31 | aaargh | eheh |
| 09:18.43 | aaargh | hmmm - now Alt-F2 doesn't seem to work... |
| 09:18.58 | Jucato | hm.. are you sure it was kicker that crashed? |
| 09:19.19 | aaargh | i assumed it was, because it disappeared, then reappeared a little later, along with the crash message, which i have, stupidly, already closed. |
| 09:19.31 | aaargh | maybe i should give it a restart... |
| 09:19.33 | Jucato | hm... |
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| 09:20.20 | aaargh | ah, i just ... yeah, noticed i've lost my window close/minimize - perhaps compiz fusion? |
| 09:20.24 | aaargh | brb |
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| 09:20.58 | Jucato | yes then |
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| 09:26.43 | aaargh | hmmm - kde-window-decorator |
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| 09:26.59 | aaargh | but that ConserveSpace=true in [General] doesn't work :( |
| 09:28.14 | aaargh | hmm - it seems silly that the icons expand so much... because once you go past a certain width, you can't have *any* programs in the list |
| 09:29.03 | aaargh | and I tried changing ExpandSize to false, but ... that didn't work either. |
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| 09:29.19 | aaargh | are there detailed docs/API stuff on these finer points anywhere? |
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| 09:35.06 | annma | metres: what language do you want to translate KRecipes in? |
| 09:35.07 | Jucato | hi annma!! |
| 09:35.12 | annma | ;) hi! |
| 09:35.21 | metres | annma : français |
| 09:35.25 | annma | hehe |
| 09:35.28 | Jucato | ooh! perfect!! |
| 09:35.31 | Jucato | ;D |
| 09:35.40 | annma | I am part of the French translation team metres |
| 09:35.55 | annma | you need to contact the coordinators metres |
| 09:35.55 | Jucato | although whois says .ca.. french canadian? :) |
| 09:36.07 | metres | sure |
| 09:36.09 | annma | we only have 1 french |
| 09:36.17 | Jucato | hehe ok :) |
| 09:36.22 | metres | Quebec rules :) |
| 09:36.32 | Jucato | (why do they always say "french canadian" in tv shows and movies? ) |
| 09:36.37 | Jucato | hm.. Kanadian :D |
| 09:36.43 | aaargh | lol |
| 09:36.45 | annma | metres: where is krecipes situated in kde svn? |
| 09:37.08 | annma | metres: and is it for KDE 3 series? |
| 09:37.15 | metres | I think it's because there is no tem like quebecker |
| 09:37.20 | annma | will there be a new KRecipes release? |
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| 09:39.20 | metres | annma : I installed Krecipes on KDE 3, I dont know where it is on the svn, I only found extragear-utils/desktop_extragear-utils_krecipes.po on the kde translation page, I found my po in the krecipes source file... |
| 09:40.19 | annma | do you have kde in French? |
| 09:40.35 | annma | your po? |
| 09:41.09 | metres | the krecipe.po file |
| 09:41.17 | metres | my kde is in french, yes |
| 09:42.13 | annma | let me look |
| 09:42.30 | metres | I dont know when krecipes will be release for kde4 but the version that I installed was a beta and there is a svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/branches/extragear/kde3/utils |
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| 09:43.32 | annma | it's not translated to French for KDE3 it seems |
| 09:43.43 | metres | damn it, the beta was release 26 september 2006 |
| 09:43.49 | aaargh | q: is there a way to determine which window belongs to which process? |
| 09:43.54 | annma | http://websvn.kde.org/branches/stable/l10n/fr/messages/ |
| 09:43.58 | annma | metres: lol |
| 09:44.00 | annma | that's why |
| 09:44.04 | annma | KRecipes is dead |
| 09:44.46 | metres | annma : there is some part who are, only few... |
| 09:45.13 | metres | so I'll have to port it to kde4 myself then...? |
| 09:45.41 | annma | KRecipes? |
| 09:45.46 | metres | yes |
| 09:46.00 | annma | if you want it, yes |
| 09:46.15 | Jucato | aw :( |
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| 09:48.07 | metres | annma : I am looking at the project page, I'll email the developpers to know if they're still working on it... |
| 09:49.14 | annma | metres: yes, that's the best |
| 09:49.27 | annma | if not you'll surely find people willing to help you port it |
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| 09:49.35 | annma | via kde-devel mailing list |
| 09:49.42 | annma | it was a popular program |
| 09:50.12 | metres | thanks for the hint annma |
| 09:50.35 | metres | I'll go sleep a bit now, before the sun gets up :) |
| 09:50.55 | metres | have a good day (and a good year) |
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| 10:01.28 | aaargh | might anyone know why the MaximumButtonWidth ktaskbarrc tweak (here: http://canllaith.org/?page_id=15) isn't working for me? |
| 10:02.46 | aaargh | nope, i'm just a moron - wrong tweak. |
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| 10:06.30 | canllaith | who called? |
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| 10:14.37 | Jucato | someone called? O.o |
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| 10:24.26 | zak_ | annma: tres bonne année :) |
| 10:24.43 | annma | thanks! same to you! |
| 10:25.20 | zak_ | :) |
| 10:25.41 | zak_ | should have said this in English :) |
| 10:26.10 | zak_ | m not quite sure that you do remember of me |
| 10:26.14 | Jucato | you could also translate :) |
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| 10:26.51 | zak_ | tres bonne année = happy new year ;:) |
| 10:27.01 | zak_ | Jucato: i left you one yesterday :) |
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| 10:27.33 | Jucato | ah ok :) |
| 10:27.45 | Jucato | ooh I thought you said tres bonne annma lol |
| 10:27.54 | annma | lol |
| 10:27.56 | zak_ | lol |
| 10:28.06 | Jucato | happy new year to you too zak_ |
| 10:28.12 | Jucato | (sorry I wasn't around much yestreday) |
| 10:28.24 | zak_ | thanxs :) |
| 10:28.30 | zak_ | no pb man:) |
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| 10:30.56 | zak_ | wonder why cant use ksnapshot |
| 10:31.15 | zak_ | i klik on it :) it tries to start , but in vain |
| 10:31.42 | Jucato | zak_: try starting from Konsole to see what error messages come out |
| 10:31.49 | zak_ | ok |
| 10:33.02 | zak_ | Jucato: ''ksnapshot: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libkio.so.5: undefined symbol: _ZN11KConfigBase8rollbackEb'' |
| 10:33.15 | Jucato | kde4? |
| 10:33.33 | zak_ | 3.5.8.22.3 |
| 10:33.33 | annma | likely your kdelibs is conflicting zak_ |
| 10:33.39 | zak_ | oops |
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| 10:34.03 | zak_ | then is shall downgrade ksnapshot ? |
| 10:34.50 | annma | what distro? |
| 10:34.59 | zak_ | opensuse 10.3 |
| 10:35.00 | annma | it's a distro problem zak_ |
| 10:35.09 | annma | did you upgrade only ksnapshot? |
| 10:36.11 | zak_ | euhhh:( |
| 10:36.23 | zak_ | i always do ''smart update /smart upgrade '' |
| 10:36.45 | zak_ | so probably all my packages are upgraded |
| 10:37.04 | zak_ | annma: is it really a distro pb?what distro do u use |
| 10:37.37 | annma | mandriva |
| 10:37.40 | zak_ | i came fro mwindows world , and i did not try any other distro but suse |
| 10:37.44 | zak_ | ah u told me that once :) |
| 10:37.46 | zak_ | forgot |
| 10:37.51 | zak_ | it s french :) |
| 10:37.58 | annma | the error you have is a conflict |
| 10:38.19 | pinotree | zak_: → #mandriva |
| 10:38.31 | annma | pinotree: #open-suse |
| 10:38.43 | annma | mine is Mandriva, his is OpenSuse |
| 10:38.55 | pinotree | ah, #opensuse (w/o dash) then |
| 10:39.03 | annma | :) |
| 10:40.15 | zak_ | annma: shall i downgrade kde or shall i wait for kde4 ? |
| 10:40.30 | annma | ask in the OpenSuse channel |
| 10:40.39 | annma | is it a first install? |
| 10:40.40 | zak_ | ah ok :) |
| 10:41.05 | zak_ | euhh non i installed opensuse 3 weeks ago and ksnapshot worked great |
| 10:41.24 | annma | and you did not install anything else in between? |
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| 10:41.27 | stackwalker | sup |
| 10:41.32 | annma | try a new user then zak_ |
| 10:41.34 | zak_ | apart from kompiz |
| 10:41.36 | zak_ | no:( |
| 10:41.40 | stackwalker | where can I change the KDEWM option? |
| 10:41.40 | annma | kompiz? |
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| 10:41.43 | zak_ | annma: why? |
| 10:41.50 | annma | what is kompiz? |
| 10:41.58 | zak_ | compiz-fusion |
| 10:42.08 | zak_ | annma: what s wrong with my nick? |
| 10:42.10 | annma | zak_: either your kompiz broke it or it's a local setting |
| 10:42.20 | annma | I have to go |
| 10:42.24 | stackwalker | where can I change the KDEWM option under gentoo ? |
| 10:42.28 | zak_ | ciao ciao |
| 10:42.31 | annma | create a new user and test if ksnapshot work |
| 10:42.36 | Jucato | zak_: no. she meant try a different user on your system, not in IRC |
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| 10:43.18 | zak_ | Jucato: does it really have something to do wit hmy pb? |
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| 10:43.52 | Jucato | zak_: so that you can test if it's a system-wide problem or a local (only your user) problem |
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| 10:44.00 | stackwalker | anyone ? |
| 10:44.02 | zak_ | aha |
| 10:44.11 | zak_ | i do undertsand now :) |
| 10:44.31 | pinotree | stackwalker: be patient |
| 10:44.40 | stackwalker | k |
| 10:45.01 | canllaith | This is addressed in the faq |
| 10:45.10 | canllaith | Somewhere that will be sourced on login - shellrc file usually |
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| 10:47.07 | Arelis | when will KDE 4 get released? |
| 10:47.15 | stackwalker | :p |
| 10:47.24 | pinotree | Jan, 11th |
| 10:47.28 | stackwalker | :o |
| 10:47.47 | stackwalker | but i just emerged 3.5 :p |
| 10:48.02 | Arelis | And how is KDE 4 in its current state now? |
| 10:49.43 | zak_ | Jucato: what distro do u use ?really wanna try other distro but dont know really what to choose , ia m not good at compiling stuff u know :) |
| 10:50.06 | Jucato | kubuntu usually |
| 10:50.27 | Jucato | s/usually/occassionally/ |
| 10:50.28 | Jucato | :P |
| 10:50.30 | canllaith | ?? |
| 10:50.35 | Jucato | (in a vm at that) |
| 10:50.49 | zak_ | accasionally?:) |
| 10:50.58 | Jucato | zak_: I have opensuse on my laptop too, but I rarely boot into it... |
| 10:51.00 | zak_ | and usually , wha tdo u use.!=) |
| 10:51.05 | zak_ | ah ok:) |
| 10:51.07 | Arelis | pinotree: what do YOU use? |
| 10:51.15 | Jucato | he doesn't want to tell :) |
| 10:51.45 | pinotree | Arelis: debian. |
| 10:51.55 | Jucato | wow! he said it! :P |
| 10:51.59 | Arelis | pinotree: does that have KDE4? |
| 10:52.11 | pinotree | in experimental, yes |
| 10:52.22 | Jucato | but he doesn't need to rely on Debian's KDE 4 packages :) |
| 10:52.46 | zak_ | Jucato: remember the script of ksplash randomimze? |
| 10:52.58 | Jucato | zak_: yeah |
| 10:52.59 | zak_ | just wana nask u if it wil lwork with kde4? |
| 10:53.03 | Jucato | I remember you asking about it :) |
| 10:53.11 | Jucato | and I remember telling you that I don't know :) |
| 10:53.15 | zak_ | now it doesn't wit hthis ver of kde |
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| 10:53.20 | zak_ | ah :)) |
| 10:53.20 | zak_ | oops |
| 10:53.22 | zak_ | forgot :) |
| 10:53.26 | zak_ | héhé |
| 10:54.11 | Arelis | is the current KDE SVN almost equal to the release? |
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| 10:55.35 | pinotree | kde is not released yet |
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| 10:56.32 | Arelis | i know, but is it equal in stableness and functionality to the future release? |
| 10:57.59 | Arelis | so the "release" is not an actual KDE4? |
| 10:58.21 | pinotree | the release _will be_ the current svn |
| 10:58.44 | canllaith | I don't think you understand the nature of SVN Arelis |
| 10:58.57 | canllaith | It's a moving target, and a release is a snapshot of a point in time that has not happened eyt |
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| 11:00.44 | Arelis | canllaith: Yes, but, in 8 days, KDE 4 gets released... but it's not usable, then? |
| 11:01.02 | canllaith | How much do you really think will change in 8 days ? |
| 11:01.09 | canllaith | That's the difference between KDE4 release, and now. |
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| 11:01.28 | canllaith | Current SVN should be fairly close, although there could be still show-stopper bugs |
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| 11:04.10 | zak_ | Jucato: how to check if there is a conflicting packages,? |
| 11:04.16 | zak_ | i mean wha tcommand shall ihave to use? |
| 11:04.27 | Jucato | you'll have to ask in #opensuse about that |
| 11:04.31 | pinotree | zak_: distro questions go to distro channel, please |
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| 11:53.42 | carl_1 | anyoen here have an experince with Kde4SVN? |
| 11:53.59 | pinotree | what's your problem? |
| 11:54.09 | carl_1 | I have no startkde in the /svn/ dir |
| 11:54.16 | carl_1 | I just built it from SVN and dont use KDM |
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| 11:54.57 | carl_1 | I though it was usually included in kdebase |
| 11:55.07 | ann_away | kde4-config --prefix |
| 11:55.12 | ann_away | paste output please |
| 11:55.12 | pinotree | did you compile _and_ install kdebase? |
| 11:55.19 | carl_1 | yes |
| 11:55.20 | carl_1 | emerge |
| 11:55.40 | ann_away | carl_1: paste output of the command I wrote please |
| 11:55.40 | pinotree | bleah - then #gentoo-kde please |
| 11:55.49 | carl_1 | ann_away: working on it |
| 11:55.54 | ann_away | ? |
| 11:56.02 | pinotree | if your distro do broken installations, it's not our fault |
| 11:56.05 | ann_away | it takes 2 seconds |
| 11:56.15 | ann_away | tehre's no work to do carl_1 |
| 11:56.22 | carl_1 | Its not in my path |
| 11:56.31 | carl_1 | and it outputs /usr/kde/svn |
| 11:56.43 | ann_away | not in your path? |
| 11:56.58 | ann_away | bah ask in #gentoo-kde |
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| 11:57.29 | carl_1 | ann_away: Its not in my default path, I just added it |
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| 12:03.11 | carl_1 | and noone is around anywhere else |
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| 12:26.48 | Amara_Emerson | im trying to build kde4 using kdesvn-build but kdelibs configure fails, saying soprano version is too old |
| 12:27.09 | pinotree | update your soprano version, easy |
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| 12:27.28 | Amara_Emerson | i've built soprano, and its been installed to ~/kde as it should , how do i make configure use that version instead? instead of the system one |
| 12:27.57 | pinotree | uninstall the system one (or just the devel package of it, if your distro has them) |
| 12:28.09 | Amara_Emerson | ok ill try that |
| 12:29.15 | Amara_Emerson | thanks, removing dev package worked |
| 12:29.37 | whirm | hi all! |
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| 12:33.40 | carl_1 | How do I readd the task manager I just accidently deleted to the bottom bar? |
| 12:34.00 | Jucato | carl_1: right-click on the panel -> Add Applet to Panel |
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| 12:34.45 | carl_1 | can you repeat that please, missed it |
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| 12:34.53 | Jucato | carl_1: right-click on the panel -> Add Applet to Panel |
| 12:35.08 | carl_1 | Jucato: no right click on the panel in KDE4 |
| 12:35.17 | Jucato | oh.. well you didn't specify :) |
| 12:35.24 | carl_1 | I thought I said kde4 heh sorry |
| 12:35.57 | Jucato | right-click on the desktop, Add Widget, look for Task Manager, drag it to the panel... that's as far as I know |
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| 12:36.25 | carl_1 | thanks Jucato |
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| 12:37.10 | carl_1 | now if I remember correctly theres no way to shrink the bottom bar yet is there? |
| 12:37.31 | Jucato | afaik, no |
| 12:37.49 | carl_1 | Darn, it looks very ugly with dual monitors |
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| 13:00.34 | fedora_ | pl???? |
| 13:00.59 | m_downarowicz | hi |
| 13:01.13 | annma | hi |
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| 13:01.42 | m_downarowicz | you from poland |
| 13:02.38 | m_downarowicz | ? |
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| 13:06.10 | annma | we talk about KDE here m_downarowicz |
| 13:06.22 | m_downarowicz | oki |
| 13:06.25 | m_downarowicz | i sorry |
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| 13:06.48 | bluelightning | weird... |
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| 13:07.22 | pinda | hello... I've got some trouble compiling extragear/graphics... I allready checked in here yesterday, but at that moment even dashbot failed on extragear/graphics. |
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| 13:07.38 | jekader | are you enering from inder a fedora KDE liveCD? |
| 13:08.02 | pinda | However, now dashbot seems to compile extragear/graphics fine... But I'm still having problems compiling.. |
| 13:08.11 | Araen | hello |
| 13:08.37 | annma | pinda: do 'make' in build dir and paste error in pastebin |
| 13:08.46 | annma | paste last compiling line then error please |
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| 13:09.35 | pinda | annma: I compiled using the kdesvn-build script... should I just post the entire error.log in pastebin? |
| 13:10.05 | annma | can you do what I just wrote pinda |
| 13:10.11 | annma | pinda: do 'make' in build dir and paste error in pastebin |
| 13:10.13 | annma | can you do what I just wrote pinda |
| 13:10.15 | annma | paste last compiling line then error please |
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| 13:10.27 | annma | that ^^ and do make first |
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| 13:11.04 | pinda | ok, I'll do that.. |
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| 13:13.34 | pinda | annma: "No targets specified and no makefile found. Stop"... makes sence, it looks like the error occurs during configuration with cmake |
| 13:13.48 | annma | you must be in the build dir |
| 13:14.27 | annma | if the error occurs with cmake, then just paste it in a pastebin |
| 13:16.50 | pinda | annma: http://pastebin.com/mc3bc52e |
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| 13:17.49 | pinda | cmake complains about IMLIB_DIR not being set... I have imlib and the imlib dev packages installed however.. |
| 13:17.55 | annma | pinda: your distribution? |
| 13:18.01 | pinda | kubuntu gutsy... |
| 13:18.37 | annma | use dpkg and paste libimlib packages that you have please |
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| 13:21.50 | pinda | I've got the packages: imlib-base imlib11 imlib11-dev libimlib2 and libimlib2-dev installed. |
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| 13:23.30 | pinda | are the kubuntu imlib packages maybe badly packaged and installed to a non standard location, or something like that? |
| 13:24.10 | annma | no idea |
| 13:24.34 | annma | look if there are other existing imlibs packages |
| 13:24.38 | annma | I have some others |
| 13:25.03 | annma | but I don't use kubuntu so use your package manager and install everything with imlib in its name |
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| 13:26.11 | pinda | hmm, I notice some packages with imlib in the the name which start with gdk.. |
| 13:26.39 | pinda | I'll install them and then try building again... |
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| 13:29.23 | annma | probably some test is not done thoroughly for imlib though |
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| 13:30.55 | annma | tell me if it works pinda |
| 13:31.02 | pinda | yeah, let's hope these few gdk-imlib packages I just installed solve the problem... I'm building right now. |
| 13:31.12 | annma | ok |
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| 13:31.18 | pinda | I'll report the result here when it's finished |
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| 13:31.48 | pinda | btw, I'm wondering if someone could confirm this bug: http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=154929 |
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| 13:32.33 | annma | kde3 or 4? |
| 13:32.39 | pinda | I started using kde4 as main desktop a few day ago, and I think this is, for me at least, the last remaining 'show stopper'... |
| 13:32.40 | pinda | kde4 |
| 13:32.51 | annma | can you add it then? |
| 13:33.23 | mikkoc | does anyone know when ktorrent3 will be released? |
| 13:33.46 | pinda | ? what do you mean ? |
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| 13:36.11 | Amara_Emerson | ive got an error trying to checkout kdepimlibs from trunk. stops at kdepimlibs/syndication/rss2/document.h and says "svn: Connection closed unexpectedly" |
| 13:36.35 | annma | pinda: it's not evident for me that it is kde4 |
| 13:36.35 | Amara_Emerson | apparently a german user also had the same problem, 4 days ago. cant find a solution for it |
| 13:37.05 | annma | Amara_Emerson: maybe the svn server has a problem |
| 13:37.07 | brot | pinda: just add that you talk about kde4 in the bug ;) |
| 13:37.23 | pinda | annma: oh, you're right, I'll edit the report... thanks for mentioning! |
| 13:37.25 | SSJ_GZ | Amara_Emerson: No solutions yet. I usually just offer this for download: http://etotheipiplusone.com/kde4daily/kdepimlibs-r753095.tar.bz2 |
| 13:37.50 | annma | SSJ_GZ: is it the miror? |
| 13:38.10 | SSJ_GZ | annma: Is what the mirror of what? :) |
| 13:39.03 | annma | is it a mirror that gives that kdepimlibs error? |
| 13:39.17 | Amara_Emerson | SSJ_GZ: thanks. hope it gets solved soon |
| 13:39.28 | annma | <Amara_Emerson> ive got an error trying to checkout kdepimlibs from trunk <= I don't see that with kde svn server |
| 13:39.36 | annma | SSJ_GZ: ^^ |
| 13:40.03 | SSJ_GZ | annma: Oh, I see. I think it's anonsvn.kde.org |
| 13:40.14 | annma | yes, so it's probably 1 miror |
| 13:40.18 | annma | mirror |
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| 13:47.12 | oneforall | whats the command again to update the mebnus ? |
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| 13:49.30 | pinda | hmm, unfortunately annma has left, I retried building kde4, and extragear/graphics still gives the same cmake error |
| 13:50.04 | pinda | is the anybody else here who might now a solution? dashbot seems to compile extragear/graphics fine. |
| 13:51.26 | pinda | let's rephrase: are there people here with a recent successfull build of extragear/graphics? |
| 13:52.25 | SSJ_GZ | pinda: If in doubt, delete CMakeCache.txt from your extragear/graphics build dir. |
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| 13:53.50 | pinda | thanks for the tip, I'll try that.... |
| 13:54.13 | pinda | I'm really eager to check out the new gwenview and digikam... :p |
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| 13:54.26 | SSJ_GZ | pinda: :) |
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| 13:54.47 | SSJ_GZ | pinda: I think gwenview is in kdegraphics, not extragear. |
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| 13:56.56 | pinda | SSJ_GZ: you're right, that's odd, when I tried to start gwenview previous week I got the kde3 version and I just assumed gwenview was part of extragear.. |
| 13:57.06 | pinda | don't know what went wrong, but right now it works.. |
| 13:57.23 | SSJ_GZ | pinda: Maybe your path gives priority to KDE3 ... ? |
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| 13:57.52 | SSJ_GZ | PATH, rather. |
| 13:58.31 | pinda | no, I've got the kde4 bin directory first in my PATH... hmm, well it works now, so I'm not complaining... :) |
| 13:58.50 | SSJ_GZ | pinda: Heh |
| 14:01.38 | pinda | SSJ_GZ: I can't find a CMakeCache.txt in the extragear/graphics build-dir. |
| 14:02.20 | SSJ_GZ | pinda: What directory are you in when you run cmakekde? |
| 14:04.21 | pinda | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:04.47 | SSJ_GZ | pinda: Oh. God knows, then :) Do a harddrive search for CMakeCache.txt |
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| 14:08.13 | pinda | SSJ_GZ: D'oh, I found it... I was looking in the svn checkout dirs instead of the build dir... :s I'm now retrying the build |
| 14:08.24 | SSJ_GZ | pinda: Hehe :) |
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| 14:09.23 | vbgunz | when you select an item in Konqueror tree view, only the file name is highlighted. is it possible to get the whole line to highlight? |
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| 14:11.48 | yao_ziyuan | which linux distro has already integrated kde4? |
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| 14:15.21 | pinda | yao_ziyuan: what do you mean: integrated? There are some distros who have packaged kde4 but none who install it as primary DE yet. |
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| 14:15.53 | yao_ziyuan | ok |
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| 14:45.14 | jthomas | did anyone's keyboard die on the 31st? I had two different KDE installs (Kubuntu Gutys and Debian Etch) and *both* had a lockedup keyboard on the 31st; I had to restart the XServer and it came back. Too strange to be a coincidence I think, two on one day... anyone else? |
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| 15:03.29 | pinda | jthomas: I didn't notice anything unusual with my keyboard on the 31st... do you still got that problem? |
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| 15:05.32 | tzd | hi everyone! is it possible to transfer mail settings such as mail filters etc. from Thunderbird to Kontact please? |
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| 15:08.41 | jthomas | pinda, it was just once on each machine on the 31st, but i've never seen anything like it, and it was very odd. |
| 15:09.16 | jthomas | tzd: look into exporting the data as a CSV list or another format which both can read |
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| 15:10.13 | TheGrudge | Hi, I found a directory in my homedir called kdevcppsupport that contains 100MB of data... I googled but I can't figure out what this could be... is this something that kdevelop uses when I compile my kde apps? |
| 15:10.14 | tzd | jthomas: ok, but where do i import mail filtering in Kontact... hmm sorry Kmail is the real name i think :) |
| 15:10.57 | Jucato | TheGrudge: probably... try #kdevelop if they know |
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| 15:11.56 | TheGrudge | Jucato: ok |
| 15:12.41 | jthomas | sorry tzd i think i misread your question, I am not sure if you can transfer mail filters... let me look |
| 15:12.46 | tzd | i've got one more question while I'm here ;P It seems like KDE 4 will be something amazing? I'm quite new to the whole Linux community and I've got KDE 3.5.8... will it be worth upgrading and will an upgrade affect all my other programs? |
| 15:12.55 | tzd | jthomas: ok no worries :) Thanks for your help! |
| 15:13.20 | Jucato | tzd: if you're new, I'd suggest a "wait and see" approach, specially since it's a .0 release (4.0) |
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| 15:13.53 | Jucato | tzd: read http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/3174 why I think so |
| 15:14.18 | tzd | Jucato: yeah that was my plan but it seemed like a "need-to-have" thing :) |
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| 15:14.32 | tzd | Jucato: thank you, will have a look! |
| 15:16.16 | jthomas | for a lot of us, kde4 is very exciting and somewhat of a need-to-have :) I'll use it at home to help iron it out but likely not on my work box, which requires more stability at this point |
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| 15:17.11 | Jucato | tzd: well, it's a need-to-have if: 1) you're a total KDE lover, 2) you're willing to make big jumps, 3) you're totally curious. |
| 15:17.48 | Jucato | tzd: either way, most distros will have a sort of migration path to make things smoother. or you can try some KDE 4 live cd's when they come out. either way, there's no reason for you to give up on your stable 3.5 system asap |
| 15:17.53 | tzd | haha ok... as much as i love trying out new stuff im just about as newbie on Linux which isn't the best combo really ) |
| 15:17.59 | jthomas | view kde 4.0 as being similar to a new release of an OS or application; most businesses will wait until there are lots of test cases and the first (sorry) 'service pack' |
| 15:18.07 | jthomas | aka 4.1 |
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| 15:18.58 | Jucato | jthomas: I think in the FOSS world, we prefer to use the term "minor release" or "point release" rather than (deep breath) "service pack" |
| 15:19.00 | Jucato | :D |
| 15:19.01 | tzd | i see. Are there major new things with 4.0 compared to 3.5.8? |
| 15:19.08 | Jucato | a lot :) |
| 15:19.20 | pinda | yes, most users can probably best wait till 4.1... but if your curious and adventurous, you can always install kde4 side by side with an kde3 installation |
| 15:19.24 | Jucato | both under the hood and aboe the roof :) |
| 15:19.27 | Jucato | above* |
| 15:20.02 | tzd | ooh sweet! Although im just learning myself 3.5.8 right now. Pretty sweet imho :) |
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| 15:21.00 | Jucato | no worries, 3.5 would be around for quite some time, and would probably still be the preferred version of most users until KDE 4 reaches a certain maturity level :) |
| 15:21.23 | pinda | tzd: well kde4 is going to be even better. There are a couple of things that work in 3.5.8 and aren't yet ported to 4.0, but the things the are are really looking great |
| 15:21.32 | Jucato | Novell (SUSE Linux Enterprise Desktop and Server) will be using/supporting KDE 3.5 until 2010+ |
| 15:22.14 | pinda | the new oxygen theme (default style) looks simply amazing, and there very much nice improvements that make working with de4 a delight! |
| 15:22.47 | tzd | pinda: aha! Do you have any examples? |
| 15:23.05 | Jucato | the new underlying pillars/subsystems, while not seen by users, also help give KDE 4 a better user experience (in the long run, or at least that's the plan :P) |
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| 15:23.33 | pinda | tzd: for example: some find (and replace) dialogs have been replaced with a firefox style search while you type thing... |
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| 15:24.24 | pinda | undo close tab functionality in konqueror... |
| 15:24.52 | pinda | build in compositing window manager (think compiz, but well integrated into kde, a little less bling, a little more functionality) |
| 15:25.13 | tzd | aha everything sounds really nice :) |
| 15:25.22 | tzd | just about to ask about compiz but you answered it :D |
| 15:25.53 | tzd | can't get myself around konqueror though.. tried it for a few minutes but realised it wasn't my cup of tea |
| 15:26.16 | Jucato | there's a new default file manager for KDE 4. it's Dolphin |
| 15:26.29 | tzd | hmm I have dolphin now? |
| 15:26.39 | Jucato | er... in Kubuntu? |
| 15:26.43 | pinda | tzd: what don't you like about konqueror? |
| 15:26.43 | tzd | yes |
| 15:26.46 | Jucato | pfft! |
| 15:26.49 | tzd | :D |
| 15:26.56 | Jucato | that doesn't come this close to Dolphin in KDE 4 |
| 15:26.59 | dwinslow | the kde4 version of dolphin is quite different from the kde3 version by this poiint |
| 15:27.01 | dwinslow | *point |
| 15:27.07 | tzd | pinda: i can't recall... let me have a look straight away :) |
| 15:27.09 | Jucato | actually, that's not even Dolphin in KDE 3 |
| 15:27.20 | Jucato | it's D3lphin... a "fork" of Dolphin for KDE 3 |
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| 15:28.05 | pinda | yeah, the dolphin from kde4 is actually quite nice... I've always been a konqueror fan, but dolphin grows on you... :) |
| 15:28.36 | Jucato | specially if you're practically using Dolphin in Konqueror when doing file management... |
| 15:29.08 | Jucato | (and it has come to a point that file management in konqueror doesn't really work properly, so you're kinda forced to use Dolphin...) |
| 15:29.29 | pinda | yeah... the only thing I really miss in dolphin is the popup preview konqi had in kde3... I hope it will be added soon.. |
| 15:30.04 | Lynx3000 | Wazzaaa |
| 15:30.16 | tzd | pinda: i didn't like the integration between file browser and web browser. And it seemed difficult to find plugins (addons) to modify it the way i wanted it. I'm probably completely wrong about this since i didn't give it enough time... Just like i did with Kontact which I now really enjoy apart from the mail issue i have |
| 15:30.39 | tzd | Jucato: aha, didn't know it was that different with the dolphins ;) |
| 15:30.46 | Jucato | tzd: there really aren't much plugins/addons... if you're thinking about Firefox extensions |
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| 15:31.06 | tzd | Jucato: ah ok, then i'll just stick with FF |
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| 15:31.10 | DoctorPepper | hi |
| 15:31.24 | pinda | well, konqueror is extendable a certain amount (service menus etc)... |
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| 15:31.39 | Jucato | service menus only work in file management mode afaik |
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| 15:33.03 | tzd | pinda: alright. I was looking for a super slim edition web browser that could replace my maxthon edition I had for Windows. The closest one that worked in somewhat similar way was FF, although, there are still plnety of addons not working as I was hoping for |
| 15:33.49 | Jucato | a super slim web browser wouldn't have addons, woudl it? :D |
| 15:34.20 | pinda | Jucato: no, not only then... for example, i have a service menu installed, that allows you to right click on a link to a youtube video and save it as mpeg... |
| 15:34.33 | tzd | Jucato: hehe i forgot to specify it properly ;) A very powerful web browser that "looks" slim with just a few buttons :) |
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| 15:35.19 | Jucato | tzd: you can very much customize konqueror's toolbars if that's what you mean :) |
| 15:35.38 | Jucato | (in fact, Kubuntu's Konqueror is the most stripped down version of Konqueror around) |
| 15:35.51 | Jucato | pinda: ah I see... never knew that :) |
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| 15:36.03 | Jucato | right... it works with MIME types... |
| 15:36.12 | tzd | Jucato: yeah that's the first thing I'd do... after that I'd look for something allowing me to e.g. open links in new tabs by drag & drop |
| 15:36.32 | Jucato | why drag and drop when you can middle-click? :) |
| 15:36.59 | Jucato | and drag & drop where? you can do that in Konqueror |
| 15:37.16 | Jucato | anyway, stick to what you're most comfortable with, then try alternatives, then switch if you want to :) |
| 15:37.24 | tzd | well first i got used to right click - open in new tab FF1.5 then from Maxthon i got used to Drag and drop and well tbh, i like the drag and drop ;) |
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| 15:37.55 | Xinill | Hi |
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| 15:38.56 | dwinslow | tzd: if you mean drag the link to the tab bar, that should work in konqueror |
| 15:39.15 | Xinill | 2 days to kde4, yay |
| 15:40.01 | tzd | dwinslow: no i meant dragging a random link on a site for a second in any direction which should open up a new tab that loads the link. Thanks though :) |
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| 15:40.40 | konadr | does anyone know if there is a launch party for kde 4 in London .uk ? |
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| 15:42.23 | Jucato | tzd: that'd be a weird behavior... but like I said, middle-clicking requires less muscle work than drag and drop :) |
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| 15:43.55 | tzd | Jucato: haha i guess it is but it goes pretty fast and it's pretty "dirty" making it a must have ^^ |
| 15:44.19 | Jucato | middle click is faster.. but less dirty :P |
| 15:44.20 | Jucato | heheh |
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| 15:44.41 | tzd | anyway, which is the best amarok script for lyrics please?? |
| 15:45.09 | tzd | gosh, didn't know there existed a middle click until u just told me ;) |
| 15:45.28 | Jucato | lol |
| 15:45.47 | Jucato | don't tell me you don't know middle-click on tab to close it in FIrefox too? |
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| 15:45.50 | Jucato | :) |
| 15:46.03 | tzd | this irc client is sweet as well with the notifikation when you're on a different virtual desktop! :) |
| 15:46.24 | tzd | haha, closing tabs.... i do that with double clicks ;P |
| 15:47.07 | tzd | Jucato: what kind of mouse do you have? Can't say mine is optimized for middle clicks ;) |
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| 15:48.30 | dwinslow | tzd: fwiw, most distributions have X set up to interpret simultaneous left and right clicking as a middle click by default |
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| 15:49.50 | tzd | dwinslow: ooh... i see.... then i can't use that as an excuse then :) |
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| 16:19.32 | FreshPrince | 'lo |
| 16:19.45 | Armand_Laptop | Hi |
| 16:19.51 | Armand_Laptop | Hey annma!! ^_^ |
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| 16:20.56 | rsq | Where can I find the log files of KDE? |
| 16:21.16 | annma | hi Armand_Laptop, hi all |
| 16:21.21 | Armand_Laptop | :) |
| 16:21.42 | Armand_Laptop | How are you? |
| 16:22.01 | Jucato | rsq: which ones specfically? |
| 16:22.07 | annma | fine! busy with translations and debug |
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| 16:22.14 | Armand_Laptop | Cool.. |
| 16:22.20 | rsq | Jucato, I'm trying to find out why KDED dies |
| 16:22.29 | Armand_Laptop | Do anything interesting for New year.. ? |
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| 16:22.36 | ezquerro | hi to everybody |
| 16:22.38 | annma | Armand_Laptop: party! |
| 16:22.41 | Armand_Laptop | ^_^ |
| 16:22.44 | ezquerro | i have a question about kde update |
| 16:22.46 | annma | you? |
| 16:22.55 | Armand_Laptop | I was a boring git.. stayed in and played CS:S. :P |
| 16:23.06 | Armand_Laptop | Didn't get any invites.. >_< |
| 16:23.11 | annma | oh |
| 16:23.12 | Jucato | rsq: oh.. no idea... |
| 16:23.19 | ezquerro | i'm using kde 3.5, will it be updated from the repositories on january 11? |
| 16:23.33 | annma | ezquerro: you mean updated to kde4? |
| 16:23.42 | ezquerro | yes annma |
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| 16:23.45 | annma | ezquerro: what distro? |
| 16:23.48 | Jucato | ezquerro: that will depende on your distro |
| 16:23.52 | ezquerro | kubuntu |
| 16:23.59 | Jucato | and you can't "upgrade" from 3.5 to 4.0 (afaik) |
| 16:24.05 | Armand_Laptop | Well, I kind of did.. back in October, but I told that person to "go forth" in November. :P |
| 16:24.07 | konadr | rsq: what version of kde? distro etc? |
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| 16:24.11 | annma | yes kde4 willbe available but you'll keep your 3.5 |
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| 16:24.38 | annma | oh Armand_Laptop |
| 16:24.40 | ezquerro | but i want to replace 3.5 annma |
| 16:24.51 | ezquerro | i don't want to have both of them installed |
| 16:24.52 | annma | ezquerro: what kde apps do you use? |
| 16:24.59 | rsq | konadr: System: openSUSE 10.3 (x86_64) KDE: 3.5.7 "release 72.4" |
| 16:25.02 | annma | ezquerro: what kde apps do you use daily? |
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| 16:25.14 | ezquerro | kopete, kmail, k3b, etc... |
| 16:25.26 | crazy | then you want kde3 ;) |
| 16:25.27 | konadr | is this a fresh install rsq or did you change something? when did the issues start? |
| 16:25.29 | Jucato | ezquerro: none of those are fully ported to KDE 4.0 |
| 16:25.33 | annma | ezquerro: k3b and kmail are not ready for KDE 4 yet |
| 16:25.33 | rsq | fresh install |
| 16:25.46 | Jucato | ezquerro: please read http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/3174 |
| 16:25.48 | annma | ezquerro: you will be obliged to keep kde 3.5 |
| 16:25.48 | rsq | I've had the issues for some time now |
| 16:25.56 | Jucato | (thank you binner for something I can link to!!!) |
| 16:26.13 | crazy | not even kopete is :/ |
| 16:26.17 | konadr | when does it occur rsq when you login, during normal usage? a particular app? |
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| 16:26.29 | ezquerro | so if i clearly install kde4, none of this apps will be available? |
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| 16:26.50 | annma | exactly |
| 16:26.56 | Jucato | crazy: well kopete is there, but doesn't have functional parity with Kopete 3 |
| 16:27.18 | annma | ezquerro: this is a 4.0.0 version |
| 16:27.35 | annma | it's mostly a development base release |
| 16:27.45 | annma | meaning the kdelibs and runtime base |
| 16:27.55 | rsq | konadr, whenever I select properties via right click on an NFS volume, KDED dies, then I get messages about "kde mediamanager not running" ... If I logoff/logon, the system is fine again. |
| 16:27.57 | ezquerro | annma, but i can have kde4 with many kde3 apps, but uninstalling kde3 "kde4 supported" apps and features, isn't it? |
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| 16:28.27 | annma | of course you can but I don't see any such apps except kdeedu, kdegames, konsole, kate and dolphin |
| 16:28.30 | rsq | This problem is 100% reproducible, I am looking for the log files of KDED to figure out what goes wrong... |
| 16:29.05 | annma | kdeedu, kdegames, konsole, kate and dolphin: those work well in KDE 4 and have new features |
| 16:29.22 | ezquerro | ok, annma thanks a lot |
| 16:29.23 | crazy | annma: and kget :) |
| 16:29.49 | annma | maybe, I never use it |
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| 16:30.17 | konadr | rsq: it seems others have the same issue http://www.kde-forum.org/artikel/13684/KDE-mediamanager.html |
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| 16:31.42 | rsq | konadr, Thanks, I'll go read the threads |
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| 16:33.13 | konadr | np it seems to be some libs issue, I dont have a box to reproduce it on im using 10.3 and kde 357 too, but it's a work machine |
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| 16:36.08 | wiedenmann | in kopete How can I enter a new line with shift+enter instead of ctrl+enter? |
| 16:37.38 | annma | isn't there a COnfigure Shortcut for that? |
| 16:37.49 | annma | in the Settings menu |
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| 16:38.07 | patpi | helo @all |
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| 16:38.16 | patpi | I have only one question. |
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| 16:38.39 | patpi | Does KDE4's kwin-composite will support dual view? |
| 16:38.49 | Jucato | annma: there doesn't seem to be one... strange... |
| 16:39.19 | annma | kopete 4? |
| 16:39.28 | patpi | Or there is only options: kwin-composite without dual, kwin without composite with dual? |
| 16:39.29 | annma | wiedenmann: 3 or 4? |
| 16:39.33 | patpi | anyone knows? |
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| 16:41.58 | wiedenmann | annma: 3 |
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| 16:44.30 | annma | #kopete maybe |
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| 16:48.56 | adriaan_ | How do I KDE to show only those apps in the taskbar that are on the current desktop? |
| 16:49.12 | adriaan_ | whoops broken language |
| 16:49.41 | welp | right click -> configure panel -> task bar |
| 16:50.10 | welp | duct tape's better :P |
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| 16:50.41 | Armand_Laptop | duct tape costs more.. ;) |
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| 16:51.23 | adriaan_ | Armand_Laptop: I edited the lines a few times, I hadn't noticed what I wrote. |
| 16:51.56 | Armand_Laptop | :) |
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| 16:59.52 | Airer-girl | hi is there any kde app that opens up lzh archives? |
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| 17:01.34 | Xinill | ark? |
| 17:02.03 | Airer-girl | ark doesn't open it |
| 17:02.39 | Airer-girl | hm nvm i got it |
| 17:02.44 | Airer-girl | thank you, got it with somthing else |
| 17:02.44 | Airer-girl | >< |
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| 17:02.58 | Xinill | heh |
| 17:06.06 | SimAtWork | HNY all |
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| 17:07.11 | patpi | Does KDE4's kwin-composite will support dual view? anyone tested this on RC? |
| 17:07.11 | lampyris | hi |
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| 17:08.23 | lampyris | can kde4's apps be installed on windows? |
| 17:09.20 | Armand_Laptop | O_O |
| 17:09.24 | Xinill | Hm, it is possible to compile kde on windows |
| 17:09.26 | Xinill | That all i know |
| 17:09.32 | pinotree | lampyris: #kde-windows |
| 17:09.47 | Armand_Laptop | Yeah, take the crazy talk elsewhere! |
| 17:09.49 | Armand_Laptop | :P |
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| 17:10.14 | Xinill | http://www.fmworld.net/product/hard/pcpm0712/biblo_loox/lp/method/index.html |
| 17:10.20 | Xinill | Oops |
| 17:10.32 | Xinill | http://techbase.kde.org/index.php?title=Getting_Started/Build/KDE4/Windows/emerge |
| 17:10.33 | Xinill | :P |
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| 17:15.49 | gangleri | Hi anybody active on https://bugs.kde.org/ ?? can anybody confirm https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=154840 BiDi issue in KDE window titles - multiple windows having title foo, foo <n> ?? |
| 17:16.36 | annma | kde4? |
| 17:17.10 | annma | gangleri: kde4? |
| 17:17.25 | annma | pfff |
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| 17:17.41 | Armand_Laptop | ¬_¬ |
| 17:17.47 | gangleri|brb | annma this is kde 3.5.5 as stated in the rerport |
| 17:17.52 | gangleri|brb | annma this is kde 3.5.5 as stated in the *report* |
| 17:18.18 | Xinill | Install 3.5.8 first? |
| 17:18.19 | annma | I did not read the report |
| 17:18.31 | annma | and yes, install 3.5.8 and check |
| 17:19.17 | annma | then contact Diego Iastrubi from hebrew team |
| 17:19.32 | annma | he is the BiDi specialist |
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| 17:20.49 | Lacrymology | can someone remind me how to turn history logging on for kopete? |
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| 17:21.10 | pinotree | settings → configure plugins ? |
| 17:21.25 | Lacrymology | pinotree: yeah, that's it |
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| 17:27.19 | gangleri | annma: re: then contact Diego Iastrubi from hebrew team thanks |
| 17:27.35 | annma | yup |
| 17:28.01 | gangleri | annma: I am in an internetcafé and have no rights to instal programms |
| 17:28.18 | SimAtWork | install to the user dir |
| 17:28.33 | gangleri | annma: is there a special -he or BiDi channel here ? |
| 17:28.49 | annma | I don't think so |
| 17:28.53 | gangleri | SimAtWork I am new in Linux |
| 17:28.57 | annma | send him a mail is the best way |
| 17:29.13 | SimAtWork | gangleri: i think it's cool that the internet cafe is using linux |
| 17:29.18 | SimAtWork | gangleri: where is this internet cafe? |
| 17:29.54 | gangleri | in downtown Munich, Germany htpp://misc.de/ they are open 24h a day and have three subsiduaries |
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| 17:30.26 | annma | and you're running KDE with Hebrew? |
| 17:30.46 | gangleri | annma SimatWork: btw I noticed that some of the installed programs can not store UTF.8 file names; I have no clue where it is set up |
| 17:31.07 | annma | gangleri: maybe the system is baly set up |
| 17:31.11 | annma | badly |
| 17:31.29 | annma | don't issue a bug report on every fault you find in a cyber café please |
| 17:31.44 | gangleri | annma: OK |
| 17:32.07 | annma | because we are overworked with bugs and also it's not sure there'll be a 3.5.9 |
| 17:32.23 | annma | and your version is 3.5.5 which is old |
| 17:32.23 | gangleri | annma: I am taking care of Yiddish at Wikimedia Foundation projects and participate in many bug tracking systems |
| 17:32.42 | gangleri | they promissed to upgrade in two weeks, latest end of January |
| 17:32.43 | annma | ok, Diego also is doing that for KDE |
| 17:32.54 | annma | the best is to get to him |
| 17:32.57 | SimAtWork | no 3.5.9? |
| 17:32.59 | gangleri | see http://yi.wiktionary.org/wiki/template:bug_tracking/gangleri?uselang=en#globalWrapper |
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| 17:33.04 | SimAtWork | just a 3.5.8.1 or something? |
| 17:33.11 | annma | SimAtWork: lol, no |
| 17:33.32 | annma | nothing is hte alternative to 3.5.9 |
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| 17:48.27 | archtux | so how is kde 4 going |
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| 17:48.46 | annma | going well! |
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| 17:48.53 | pinotree | (hopefully) |
| 17:49.09 | annma | translations are doing a good effort |
| 17:49.43 | TonyNolo | Hello. I've just built the KDE 3.5.8 system on a new FreeBSD installation. Not a single error in the build/install. Wow! |
| 17:49.44 | TonyNolo | I've done the "echo "exec startkde" > ~/.xinitrc" step. When I login at console, and type 'startx', the setup screens do show up, and I can move/select fields using my Keyboard ... but there's no response/movement of my mouse cursor at all. |
| 17:49.44 | TonyNolo | Do I need to add something else? |
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| 17:52.49 | Worf | TonyNolo: from how i understand the mouse should long be active and working the moment startkde is executed... |
| 17:53.34 | TonyNolo | Worf: I expected that too. But it simply isn't. |
| 17:54.20 | Worf | does your xorg log files mention something about your mouse? |
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| 17:55.05 | TonyNolo | Checking ... |
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| 18:00.09 | TonyNolo | Work: yes, apparently. but i don't know what to make of it: http://rafb.net/p/LDbBH631.html |
| 18:00.22 | TonyNolo | oops ... Worf |
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| 18:04.21 | Armand_Laptop | Erm, ok.. confused.. |
| 18:04.32 | Armand_Laptop | How do I accept DCC sends on Konv.. ? |
| 18:04.54 | pinotree | Armand_Laptop: #konversation |
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| 18:09.46 | Worf | TonyNolo: "(EE) Unable to locate/open config file" ? don't you have a xorg config? :) |
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| 18:11.43 | Worf | actually it's quite impressive that xorg comes so far without any config at all |
| 18:12.09 | TonyNolo | Worf: I've only done what the instructions I was following (http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x11-wm.html) told me to do. I've not created any separate configuration. Sounds like an additional step is necessary. |
| 18:13.17 | Worf | TonyNolo: go back a view pages to http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x-config.html |
| 18:13.33 | TonyNolo | Just found that 2 seconds before you typed it .... reading |
| 18:14.04 | Worf | wow - i'm fixing bsd without ever using it ... :) |
| 18:14.13 | TonyNolo | Sounds clear enough. I'll follow those instructions now, and see what happens. Thanks! |
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| 18:26.43 | TonyNolo | Worf: I have a working mouse. Thank you! |
| 18:26.52 | TonyNolo | Bye 4 now. |
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| 18:40.33 | max_ | Hi Guys! I was told you might know the answer or at least a few hints concerning my problem, which is as follows: I installed kubuntu "the alternative way" to save disk space. i got everything to work but kde-automount of usb-sticks. i got no problem mounting it in konsole, so I think my questio might be: what packages do i need to automount usb-sticks in kubuntu gutsy-gibbon? |
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| 18:44.11 | MinceR | max_: try starting the KDED Media Manager in System Settings/Advanced/Service Manager and try if it works then |
| 18:45.40 | max_ | can u perhaps give me a konsole-command since my menu seems to differ from yours?! |
| 18:45.44 | max_ | is it in kcontrol? |
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| 18:46.41 | muuluu | hi a |
| 18:46.44 | muuluu | Error: Missing Dependency: libx264.so.56 is needed by package mencoder |
| 18:47.11 | MinceR | it's in kcontrol somewhere |
| 18:47.28 | MinceR | but kubuntu seems to prefer System Settings to kcontrol |
| 18:48.11 | MinceR | max_: kcontrol/KDE Components/Service Manager |
| 18:48.25 | max_ | k, i'll look for that, thanks for the moment |
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| 18:49.57 | c-101 | hi there |
| 18:50.33 | c-101 | i'm trying to build the svn of kde4 and i'm having problems |
| 18:50.51 | c-101 | cmake complains about Soprano version, while i have the kdesupport part of the svn tree installed |
| 18:51.06 | c-101 | where should i look into to find out why cmake is looking in the wrong place? |
| 18:51.40 | pinotree | c-101: are you sure you don't have a system soprano installed? |
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| 18:52.08 | c-101 | pinotree: well... i might have, but i have a SVN copy compiled in ~/kde/libs/ |
| 18:52.21 | pinotree | does not matter |
| 18:52.42 | pinotree | do you have a system soprano installed? [yes/no] |
| 18:52.49 | c-101 | pinotree yes i ahve |
| 18:52.51 | c-101 | i have |
| 18:53.21 | max_ | MinceR: Thanx, that did it. the service simply did not run. it works like a charm now! Thank u very much! |
| 18:53.24 | pinotree | then, either you remove its devel package (if you distro has the concept of "devel packages"), or uninstall it |
| 18:53.41 | MinceR | max_: it probably won't start automatically when you log in even though it should. |
| 18:53.54 | MinceR | max_: you might want to make a bug report on that. :) |
| 18:54.08 | c-101 | pinotree: It should be possible to have a system-wide lib installed and still tell the compiler that it should use the local copy instead the system-wide one... |
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| 18:54.24 | pinotree | c-101: it seems you don't read me... |
| 18:54.43 | c-101 | |
| 18:55.13 | pinotree | right, use them to read what i said |
| 18:55.36 | max_ | MinceR: i don't think its a bug since the way i installed the packages is not "the official way". nevertheless if I encounter further problems, i am going to write a bug-report |
| 18:55.58 | pinotree | c-101: on what distro are you? |
| 18:56.02 | c-101 | pinotree: debian sid |
| 18:56.10 | MinceR | :) |
| 18:56.14 | pinotree | then UNINSTALL the -dev package |
| 18:56.28 | MinceR | max_: i'm getting the same error after installing "the official way" |
| 18:56.31 | max_ | oh, i am still missing the desktop-icon - is that easy to get? |
| 18:56.49 | MinceR | dunno, i've disabled desktop icons |
| 18:57.04 | max_ | k, i'll figure that out. thanks again! |
| 18:57.06 | max_ | and bye |
| 18:57.14 | c-101 | pinotree: i'll go figure it out in my own, thanks |
| 18:57.40 | MinceR | np |
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| 19:07.20 | sigma_123 | any major changes been made to kde4 prior to the release? |
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| 19:12.31 | c-101 | pinotree: editing module FindSoprano.cmake solves the problem without uninstalling system-wide library :) |
| 19:12.35 | DebianUT | sigma_123: Judging from the commits, TONS |
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| 19:21.55 | Wofl | hey, i went in yesterday and did some things to integrate gtk apps with my kde desktop (theme wise), but now they have huge fonts, and it looks like they are bold too. and its not consistent, just some of the text |
| 19:22.30 | Wofl | why is it doing that> |
| 19:23.21 | Wofl | same for the firefox location bar |
| 19:23.28 | Wofl | but everything is still normal |
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| 20:10.53 | basti | hi there! is it possible to automatically load a new wallpaper everytime kde "boots"? |
| 20:11.56 | adamt_ | you could point the wallpaper at a specific file, and make a start-script that swaps some wallpapers around maybe. |
| 20:12.26 | basti | some random ln -s? |
| 20:13.31 | basti | but i'm afraid this is beyond my means... |
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| 20:15.12 | adamt_ | can't kde 3.x use "slideshows" for backgrounds? |
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| 20:15.30 | adamt_ | then it would just change once in a while, instead of on every login. |
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| 20:28.48 | basti | adamt_, i dont like that but thx for the hint with the script and the symbolic link. i will ask some bash guys |
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| 20:32.59 | tzd | Hi everyone!! I've got an issue with Kmail. The outgoing mails have all kinds of weird stuff in the mails before I even started typing... how do I get rid of this please? |
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| 20:35.55 | detcennoc | html? |
| 20:36.57 | adamt_ | tzd: maybe you could put some of the "weird stuff" on a http://pastebin.com to help us help you? |
| 20:39.31 | tzd | adamt_: http://pastebin.com/d4eace007 |
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| 20:44.12 | tzd | adamt_: it seems like some kind of encryption but im sure I've disabled it? Although... im completely new to Kmail... trying to get into the whole Kontact package and Kmail is the remaining program :) |
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| 21:04.38 | DrGrov | hello |
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| 21:05.13 | DrGrov | i am wondering about when i try to configure the kde panel appearance i wonder what is the default directory for the panel backgrounds to choose from. |
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| 21:05.22 | DrGrov | can i install more of them to that same directory? |
| 21:05.29 | chillmann | tzd: from the "-- " at the beginning it looks like a signature. maybe it's worth checking you signature settings |
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| 21:10.52 | DrGrov | if anyone knows it would be appreciated greatly i someone can tell me that directory |
| 21:12.02 | JohnKirro | anyone have any idea why a data dvd burned in k3b would work on one xp machine but not a different one? |
| 21:12.46 | Worf | because the other machine has only a cdrom and no dvd drive? :) |
| 21:12.53 | DrGrov | hi Worf |
| 21:13.07 | DrGrov | Worf: perhaps you know what i try to get done? |
| 21:13.14 | JohnKirro | Worf: its a dvd burner in both |
| 21:14.09 | DrGrov | there is no default directory for panel backgrounds in kde? |
| 21:14.38 | Worf | the default is $KDEDIR/share/apps/kicker/wallpapers/ or so ... |
| 21:15.26 | DrGrov | Worf: okay, checking. |
| 21:15.52 | Worf | JohnKirro: well - i still consider a hardware problem as the most plausible cause |
| 21:16.22 | DrGrov | Worf: i just found a applets and extensions directory, no wallpapers. |
| 21:17.21 | DrGrov | anyone know where they should be copied to? |
| 21:17.32 | Worf | DrGrov: maybe your distributor did change not to install some to save disk space ... or put them in some artwork package |
| 21:17.33 | DrGrov | Worf: you mean the $HOME/.kde/...? |
| 21:17.36 | Worf | no |
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| 21:17.57 | DrGrov | Worf: aha, so then i could make a own in /share/apps/kicker/ |
| 21:18.07 | Worf | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:18.17 | DrGrov | Worf: okay, rechecking. |
| 21:18.48 | benJIman | kde-config --prefix will tell you. |
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| 21:19.06 | DrGrov | Worf: excellent ;-) /usr/share/apps/kicker/ |
| 21:19.16 | DrGrov | Worf: thanks a lot for your help. :) thanks benJIman |
| 21:19.37 | DrGrov | Worf: now i know where to start storing them. it became dull with only one kicker... lol |
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| 21:20.20 | Worf | well, in a couple of months this won't matter much anymore :) |
| 21:20.30 | rd | what is a good channel for konqueror questions? |
| 21:20.46 | DrGrov | Worf: how come? :) |
| 21:21.25 | rd | I have a Logitech RX300 mouse with a "left right button" and it does page forward/backward in firefox/opera. Currently konqueror does nothing on these buttons. |
| 21:21.32 | Worf | DrGrov: because in a view months i expect people like us switching to kde4, which has kicker being replaced |
| 21:22.03 | rd | I would like to find out if there is a way to configure konqueror that it does the same. |
| 21:22.36 | rd | i.e. on a wheel left page back, on a wheel right page forward |
| 21:23.51 | DrGrov | Worf: aha, what will kicker be replaced by? |
| 21:24.22 | SSJ_GZ | DrGrov: THe Plasma panel. |
| 21:25.06 | Worf | rd: most likely the additional buttons are not handled by xorg, ... it's quite complex, i tried to get my additional buttons working but button mapping is a bitch |
| 21:25.32 | DrGrov | how about all themes then for kde4? will kde 3.5.x themes be working on kde4? |
| 21:25.48 | SSJ_GZ | DrGrov: No, they'll need to be ported. |
| 21:25.55 | Worf | rd: you might read http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=98028 |
| 21:26.13 | rd | Worf: the buttons work in firefox in the same xsession |
| 21:26.21 | Worf | oh |
| 21:26.38 | Worf | rd: then maybe you can simply add keybindings? |
| 21:27.07 | DrGrov | SSJ_GZ: ok, thanks for telling. |
| 21:27.12 | SSJ_GZ | np :) |
| 21:27.15 | rd | Thanks, I have never done that, but I ask google for kde keybindings |
| 21:28.06 | Worf | in Konqueror: Settings -> Configure Shortcuts |
| 21:28.35 | Worf | but something tells me it won't be that easy ... :) |
| 21:30.43 | DrGrov | so thanks guys |
| 21:30.44 | DrGrov | bbabl |
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| 21:34.09 | TonyNolo | Hi. Wasted a few hours on this so far, so thought I'd ask 'those in the know'. I've a new FreeBSD system, with xorg7.3 built & installed from src. I've setup KDE 358 as well. Configured my xorg.conf to recognize a Kensington USB Expert Mouse trackball correctly, or so I thought. On 'startx', KDE launches to desktop, I can navigate/type with the keyboard just fine. I can *see* the mouse cursor, exactly in the middle of the screen. But it will |
| 21:34.09 | TonyNolo | I'm stumped (it's becoming a frequent occurrence :-( today ) |
| 21:34.10 | TonyNolo | Any help? |
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| 21:34.52 | Worf | hi TonyNolo - still no go? :) |
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| 21:35.49 | Worf | TonyNolo: do you know which device your mouse (or whatever) is on? ( /dev/...) |
| 21:35.52 | TonyNolo | Worf: I'd though it was when we last spoke. The cursor had been available though setup. Since then, I'm in the boat above. |
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| 21:36.27 | TonyNolo | Worf: It's set in rc.conf & xorg.conf to be /dev/ums1 |
| 21:37.22 | Worf | try "cat /dev/ums1" and moove the thing and see if actually data is coming out there, also try other possible devices ( /dev/input/mice, etc...) |
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| 21:38.01 | Worf | once you are sure that you have the right device, you go to the next step in finding the right driver ... |
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| 21:39.11 | TonyNolo | It's the right device .... from "dmesg | grep ums" -> "ums1: Kensington Kensington Expert Mouse, rev 1.10/1.00, addr 4, iclass 3/1" |
| 21:39.53 | TonyNolo | FreeBSD seems to recognize the silly thing. |
| 21:41.06 | Worf | still i would check it with cat ... to be sure ... |
| 21:42.52 | TonyNolo | Worf: When I 'cat', it simply says "Device busy". How do I "see if actually data is coming out there"? |
| 21:43.21 | Supaplex | does k3b support lightscribe? I'm using 0.12.17-8 (debian etch) |
| 21:43.22 | rd | Worf: that was a good start. KDE keybindings show that XF86Forward and XF86Back ist bound to the konqui page forward and page backward. |
| 21:43.23 | Worf | busy...? hmm... strange ... |
| 21:44.28 | rd | I think I just need to find out now which are the right keycodes for wheel left and right and I could write an Xmodmap and I am done. |
| 21:45.40 | Worf | TonyNolo: might be something bsd specific, i never managed to get a mice being a "busy device" |
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| 21:46.38 | TonyNolo | Worf: Ok. I can try there. |
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| 21:48.13 | Worf | TonyNolo: does bsd have something like /dev/mouse or /dev/input/mice or anything? |
| 21:48.56 | TonyNolo | Worf: Not as far as I can tell. I've been repeatedly told that ums# is the right /dev/ for FreeBSD ... |
| 21:49.30 | Worf | hmm ... then maybe it's a permission problem ... |
| 21:50.04 | Worf | did you try as root? |
| 21:50.50 | TonyNolo | Worf: Yes. As root, and as a normal user. Same problem. |
| 21:51.05 | Worf | then i'm out of ideas |
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| 21:51.49 | TonyNolo | Worf: Thanks. I'm chatting about it in #freebsd. We'll see. |
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| 21:57.13 | paakku | Why does konsole still set TERM=xterm by default, even though there has been a "konsole" entry in the terminfo database since 2001-11-24? |
| 21:57.38 | paakku | This is interesting for ELinks because I read that konsole still does not support combining characters whereas xterm does. |
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| 21:58.26 | paakku | So I'd like to gate ELinks' forthcoming combining character support on $TERM but if xterm and konsole both set TERM=xterm then it isn't going to work. |
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| 22:08.24 | mxp | hello |
| 22:08.38 | mxp | does anybody know in what folder thunderbird saves the mails? |
| 22:09.46 | pinotree | no |
| 22:09.49 | adamt_ | try asking in #firefox or something |
| 22:09.53 | pinotree | wrong channel for that, sorry |
| 22:09.59 | adamt_ | This is the KDE-support channel :-) |
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| 22:11.14 | mxp | ok |
| 22:11.27 | mxp | but i think ~/thunderbird |
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| 22:15.34 | B4ckBOne | Is there something similar to firestarter in kde? |
| 22:15.47 | B4ckBOne | kde 3.5.8 |
| 22:15.56 | xxyy | I've a quetion on dolphin. Is it the right site to answer? |
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| 22:19.18 | muuluu | hi |
| 22:21.05 | muuluu | Error: Missing Dependency: libx264.so.56 is needed by package mencoder |
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| 22:22.34 | muuluu | anyone knows? |
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| 22:22.39 | muuluu | pls help e |
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| 22:23.03 | bedahr | muuluu: which distro? |
| 22:23.14 | muuluu | fedora 8 |
| 22:23.28 | pinotree | muuluu: wrong channel, please ask in #fedora |
| 22:23.32 | bedahr | muuluu: you either need to disable x264 when configuring it, or install libx264 |
| 22:23.38 | bedahr | and yeah - wrong channel |
| 22:23.49 | rd | Worf: got it working: map the buttons to Alt-Left/Alt-right with xkeybindings, see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=219894 |
| 22:23.54 | bedahr | (libx264-devel) |
| 22:23.58 | muuluu | k thanks |
| 22:24.09 | rd | Thanks. |
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| 22:29.19 | rdorsch | when I want a script to be executed at KDE startup I put it in my ~/.kde/Autostart folder. Is there a systemwide equivalent, i.e. a folder whose scripts are executed for every user? |
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| 22:32.40 | Przemcio78 | hi |
| 22:32.52 | xxyy | I've a quetion on dolphin. Is it the right site to answer? |
| 22:33.02 | Przemcio78 | what's the date of kde4's official premiere? |
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| 22:33.45 | pinotree | jan, 11th |
| 22:33.50 | pinotree | xxyy: yep |
| 22:34.50 | xxyy | pinotree: when i open dolphin file manager, in the storage media menu i see all the hard disk and cd, but i don't find the floppy disk icon |
| 22:35.04 | pinotree | xxyy: not specifically to me, but to all the channel |
| 22:35.22 | xxyy | when i open dolphin file manager, in the storage media menu i see all the hard disk and cd, but i don't find the floppy disk icon |
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| 22:40.33 | silver_hook | Hullo. I seem to have problems with k3b 1.0.4 (on Gentoo AMD64) and cdrecord permissions. It works ok with DVDs, but CDs only burn as root. |
| 22:40.46 | silver_hook | debug output: http://paste.uni.cc/17995 |
| 22:40.58 | xxyy | pinotree: but is there anyboby |
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| 22:44.33 | pinotree | xxyy: well, be patient dude |
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| 22:44.52 | tgurr | silver_hook: emerge -C cdrtools && emerge cdrkit |
| 22:45.48 | xxyy | pinotree: thanks for the dude |
| 22:45.50 | silver_hook | tgurr: will try, thanks |
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| 22:50.59 | bedahr | is there a good guide for how to integrate a qt4-only application into kde? (maybe including a list of benefits?) |
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| 22:55.52 | tzd | chillmann: exellent thinking my friend! The signature was the issue :) I had loaded my thunderbird signature file which caused Kmail to output those weird characters. Thanks a lot for the help!! Almost windows free now haha ;) |
| 22:57.01 | xxyy | pinotree: uhmmm, here all are sleeping |
| 22:57.27 | pinotree | xxyy: uuhhmmm, you miss the meaning of the word "patience" |
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| 22:58.07 | xxyy | pinotree: uhmm you have to know that i'm was born in 7 mounths |
| 22:58.11 | xenoterracide | why is inline pgp marked (deprecated) in kmail? does anyone know? |
| 22:58.19 | xxyy | pinotree: perhaps it is the reason |
| 22:58.20 | justs0me | i want to use Kmail to get see email from different webserver things, what do i put as server type in the setup? |
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| 22:58.30 | pinotree | xxyy: you can learn, heh |
| 22:58.47 | tzd | justs0me: such as gmail?? |
| 22:58.59 | xxyy | pinotree: of course but it too hard. I'm not a children |
| 22:59.05 | xxyy | pinotree: of course but it too hard. I'm not a chil |
| 22:59.14 | justs0me | tzd: one is, the other is a university email settup |
| 22:59.18 | silver_hook | tgurr: thanks, that worked :] |
| 22:59.19 | pinotree | yawn |
| 22:59.47 | tzd | justs0me: I know the gmail account since I did that earlier myself today... let me get you a link for it :) |
| 23:00.02 | tgurr | silver_hook: great :) |
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| 23:00.48 | xxyy | pinotree: the only possibility we have is to speak eachother |
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| 23:01.21 | pinotree | xxyy: no, the only possibility is that you stay calm for a while, and stop asking every 10 minutes. |
| 23:01.52 | tzd | justs0me: http://www.debianadmin.com/configure-gmail-in-evolution-thunderbird-or-kmail.html |
| 23:02.02 | justs0me | tzd: k thanks |
| 23:02.05 | tzd | justs0me: should be at the bottom of tat page |
| 23:02.07 | xxyy | pinotree: am I disturbing you? |
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| 23:02.53 | chillmann | tzd: you're welcome :-) enjoy KMail |
| 23:03.31 | tzd | :) |
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| 23:14.07 | xxyy | pinotree: ok no asnwer so I say you hallo...bye |
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| 23:16.17 | Schuenemann | does anyone here use kile and know if it's possible to maximize the edit window/view? |
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| 23:20.06 | bedahr | Schuenemann: I use kile... what do you want to maximize? |
| 23:20.22 | Schuenemann | bedahr, that window that contains the code |
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| 23:21.19 | Schuenemann | bedahr, like taking the space of the console and files view |
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| 23:23.38 | bedahr | Schuenemann: I don't know if there is any such feature but you could enter fullscreen mode (ctrl+shift+f), hide all the toolbars (settings->toolbars) and move the sliders to the screen edges (they will "snap in") |
| 23:23.49 | bedahr | it is not entirely what you want but still pretty close |
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| 23:25.38 | Schuenemann | bedahr, that isn't very practical. Some IDEs do it automatically just be double-clicking the file tab or something like that |
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| 23:27.17 | bedahr | you could file a bug if you really want that feature... I'm sure it wouldn't be that hard to implement |
| 23:27.53 | Schuenemann | like this? http://lists.kde.org/?l=kde-bugs-dist&m=113622675008329&w=2 |
| 23:27.59 | Schuenemann | :-) |
| 23:29.42 | bedahr | ok but that bug was flaged as "FIXED"... they obviously misunderstood it... |
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| 23:30.41 | Schuenemann | ok |
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| 23:42.19 | justs0me | where does thunderbird save the email on my hd? |
| 23:42.38 | pinotree | justs0me: wrong channel, try #thunderbird |
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| 23:43.12 | Schuenemann | justs0me, ~/.mozilla-thunderbird |
| 23:43.38 | justs0me | Schuenemann: must i have it so it works offline to have this folder? |
| 23:44.11 | Schuenemann | have it. it what? |
| 23:44.39 | justs0me | Schuenemann: thunderbird's settings |
| 23:45.02 | Schuenemann | you mean you don't have it |
| 23:45.04 | Schuenemann | ? |
| 23:45.49 | justs0me | Schuenemann: i dont have that folder u mentioned, must i have the settings turned on in thunderbird to work offline |
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| 23:46.54 | DrGrov | anyone know why nspluginviewer keeps crashing on kde 3.5.8? anyone having a similar problem? |
| 23:47.02 | Schuenemann | justs0me, check edit > configure account > server |
| 23:47.56 | DrGrov | i'm surfing with konqueror on kde-look.org but every now and then nspluginviewer crashes. nspluginviewer is for... ? |
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| 23:48.43 | cartman | !seen Seli |
| 23:48.56 | cartman | damn it |
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| 23:49.56 | Schuenemann | justs0me, found it? |
| 23:49.59 | justs0me | Schuenemann: yea |
| 23:50.21 | Schuenemann | justs0me, there is local folder in the bottom |
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| 23:52.09 | justs0me | Schuenemann: k |
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