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| 00:11.33 | subopt | My Meta key doesn't act like a Meta key since i installed Kubuntu. Is this most likely a KDE thing, or an X thing? |
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| 00:12.56 | thiago | X thing |
| 00:13.10 | thiago | there is no Meta key |
| 00:13.17 | apriori | hi all |
| 00:13.25 | thiago | the key between Alt and Ctrl, often stamped with a Windows logo, is mapped to the Super key |
| 00:13.28 | thiago | not Meta |
| 00:13.34 | apriori | what color is used for inactive text in kde 3? what's the name in the color scheme editor? |
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| 00:14.37 | oneforall | why is it even when I do update-desktop-database the app.desktop still isn't showing up inthe menu . even id I use the update app/scan its not showing ? |
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| 00:15.13 | oneforall | http://rafb.net/p/uKl2lz55.html |
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| 00:16.01 | justs0me | what program do i use to connect to a phone line (56k connection) |
| 00:16.40 | thiago | justs0me: kppp |
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| 00:17.00 | thiago | oneforall: you want kbuildsycoca, not update-desktop-database |
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| 00:17.54 | oneforall | ah ok I was using the wrong one .Have to figure out how to remmeber that one :D |
| 00:19.00 | oneforall | even better copy one of the doinstall.sh with it in it to my scripts dir |
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| 00:29.59 | oneforall | darn that still isn't adding that one to themenu O.o :( |
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| 00:30.33 | pinotree | oneforall: it's wrong |
| 00:30.44 | pinotree | Type=Application;Network; ← wrong |
| 00:30.49 | pinotree | Type=Application ← correct |
| 00:30.51 | oneforall | whats wrong ? thanks |
| 00:31.10 | pinotree | after you fix it, run kbuildsycoca |
| 00:31.19 | oneforall | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:31.38 | pinotree | oh, it's the unicode arrow character, like <- |
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| 00:32.56 | oneforall | I know the name unicode but I really don't knwo what it is . so I'm mising unicode text or its just not enabked in xchat ..? |
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| 00:33.11 | pinotree | blame your gtk irc app :P :P |
| 00:33.18 | oneforall | so just need to remove ;Network; |
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| 00:34.31 | pinotree | if you want one or more categories for it, use the Categories key |
| 00:34.33 | pinotree | eg: |
| 00:34.49 | pinotree | Categories=Network; |
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| 00:35.28 | crazy | oh and Terminal=0 -> Terminal=false |
| 00:35.39 | Mirrakor | anyone using Ktorrent? |
| 00:38.32 | oneforall | it just hates me |
| 00:38.43 | oneforall | still not showing up |
| 00:40.14 | oneforall | hmm nv i ran kbuildsycoca again and its there now |
| 00:40.32 | oneforall | maybe I opened K too soon after running that the first time |
| 00:40.39 | oneforall | thanks |
| 00:41.05 | oneforall | there a page that expalins nice and simple how to make the app.destops. |
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| 00:41.58 | z4chh | quanta+ rocks w00t w00t |
| 00:42.31 | lymeca | Is there such a thing as KDE 4 Debian repositories? |
| 00:43.53 | Rasi | there is work done on uploading beta packages to experimental |
| 00:44.01 | Rasi | not sure if that has been done by now |
| 00:44.27 | Rasi | there is a kde4 debian live cd tho... |
| 00:45.36 | Rasi | ...which also seems to be outdated |
| 00:45.39 | Rasi | :P |
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| 01:21.13 | tagsoup | I just installed kde and for some reason dcopserver wont start. Can anyone suggest where I start? here's a pastebin of the error message: http://pastebin.com/m4162c93 |
| 01:22.09 | boom1992 | tagsoup: kde should start dcopserver itself |
| 01:22.41 | tagsoup | boom1992: it fails |
| 01:23.01 | boom1992 | tagsoup: with the same output? |
| 01:23.05 | tagsoup | yeah |
| 01:23.18 | tagsoup | i tried as root, and i'm in fluxbox right now trying to figure it out |
| 01:23.39 | tagsoup | i'm assuming some libraries didn't compile correctly, i jsut dont know what to re-emerge |
| 01:23.41 | boom1992 | mmh which distribution do you use? |
| 01:23.45 | tagsoup | gentoo |
| 01:24.09 | boom1992 | mmh, ok then reemerge dcop ? |
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| 01:24.22 | tagsoup | boom1992: k, i'll see if i can find a package for that |
| 01:24.29 | tagsoup | boom1992: i installed everything as 'emerge kde-meta' |
| 01:24.30 | boom1992 | ok :) |
| 01:24.36 | boom1992 | :D |
| 01:24.45 | tagsoup | but i think it stopped and complaiend about use flags, then i must of messed up some dependencies or something |
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| 01:28.04 | Jucato | tagsoup: you might be able to get more help in #gentoo-kde |
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| 01:29.19 | Mickael9 | delroth: your font sucks |
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| 01:30.34 | tagsoup | thank you |
| 01:30.46 | Xbehave | i just did a cp -a of my home dir but it lost all my kde settings |
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| 01:31.09 | Xbehave | is there anyway to restor them |
| 01:32.09 | Jucato | Xbehave: make sure that the ~/.kde directory (and all its subdirectories) have been copied over |
| 01:32.25 | Jucato | I don't think cp -a covers copying subdirectories... maybe it needs a -R too? |
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| 01:33.44 | Xbehave | it does -a is DpR or something |
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| 01:36.02 | Xbehave | o well i think ill just set kde up again it might of been because it failed a couple of times |
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| 02:42.58 | ongaro | dzkzl.v.ö8ioväoöjkdxköi8 |
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| 02:43.19 | Ralesk | ongaro: I suspect a cat on your keyboard :P |
| 02:43.36 | ongaro | p |
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| 03:03.09 | benjamindees | so I'm using moz, er, iceape, on Etch, and opening pdf files with kpdf takes like five minutes for kpdf to finally load (after the file is downloaded) |
| 03:03.41 | benjamindees | ditto for kde apps launched from konsole |
| 03:04.50 | benjamindees | and shortcut buttons on the panel |
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| 03:08.59 | benjamindees | I can see all the apps in ps, but they don't appear for like 3-5 minutes |
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| 03:09.59 | benjamindees | no disk thrashing; no cpu usage; plenty of free memory |
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| 03:11.39 | benjamindees | konqueror seems to load right up, though |
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| 03:15.40 | Ralesk | that was the most spectacular lockup I've ever seen |
| 03:15.46 | Ralesk | my 'd' key got stuck |
| 03:15.53 | Ralesk | kicker refused to do anything, just chewed on the cpu |
| 03:16.58 | Ralesk | and even after killing compiz, I could rotate the cube (apparently my win key got stuck too) |
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| 03:26.10 | Micah- | i have a question regarding installing .pbi s , it seems pretty basic, couple clicks in konquorer , but for some reason only a couple of the numerous cool looking .pbi s work, has anyone else had this problem? |
| 03:26.51 | Micah- | oops |
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| 03:32.38 | mr_clark | Hi guys. Trying out 4 on Opensuse and I'm wondering if there is a way to move the taskbar from the bottom of the screen to the top? |
| 03:34.27 | FreshPrince | gn @ all |
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| 03:39.18 | antiNeo | whoever wrote the feature that recognizes that you mentioned an attachment in kmail but forgot to actually attach something: I LOVE YOU!!! <(^^,)> |
| 03:39.28 | antiNeo | that is all |
| 03:39.35 | mr_clark | haha |
| 03:40.12 | NeoOokami | We're declaring our appreciation of features? I'll be here a while then.. |
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| 04:02.30 | _CitizenKane_ | does anyone know the status of kjobs? I read about it awhile ago and then it seemed like it fell of the face of the earth... |
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| 04:25.20 | dastal | anyone here no a good binary newsreader that supports linux? |
| 04:25.35 | Jucato | knode? |
| 04:27.37 | dastal | thank you, have u used it? |
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| 04:28.44 | dastal | ok, i'll try it |
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| 04:58.10 | gmartyn | anyone know when kde4 development officially began? |
| 04:58.51 | benjamindees | three years ago |
| 04:58.55 | ganymede | at epoch time |
| 04:59.53 | gmartyn | thanks |
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| 05:10.45 | Ahmuck | i'm having problems in kde with the bottom chars of korean not showing up. it's as though it's trying to fit it into a line spacing. is there a way to change this? |
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| 05:11.06 | EvanR2 | alrighty |
| 05:11.28 | EvanR2 | who here knows how fonts work in KDE. |
| 05:11.47 | EvanR2 | putting stuff in /usr/share/fonts and running fc-cache doesnt seem to have any effect |
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| 05:16.53 | gangleri | Hi all! Is any administrator of https://bugs.kde.org/ here ? |
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| 05:17.30 | ganymede | gangleri: if there's a problem with it, you can file a bug |
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| 05:25.42 | Fudge | anyone familiar with the gears picture in menus on kde? |
| 05:26.25 | Fudge | trying to figure out if an image is ripping the kde picture or if its just a similar idea |
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| 05:28.32 | root_ | o.o |
| 05:28.44 | Fudge | hi r00t |
| 05:28.46 | Hamtaro | Hallo |
| 05:28.54 | Fudge | u familiar with kde cogs picture in menu mate? |
| 05:29.05 | Hamtaro | do you speak spanish? o.o |
| 05:29.10 | Fudge | sorry no |
| 05:29.14 | Hamtaro | aps, nein ._. |
| 05:29.19 | Fudge | only english and australian slang |
| 05:29.26 | Hamtaro | ok |
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| 05:30.14 | Hamtaro | somebody speak spanish? o.o |
| 05:30.51 | Hamtaro | >.< vaya que me recomendaron el sitio y todo esta en ingles >.< |
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| 05:33.47 | kareemx | hi room |
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| 05:34.41 | asarch | Hi guys, how are you? |
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| 05:36.54 | EvanR2 | mmmk. |
| 05:37.19 | EvanR2 | i have the default kde installation, where is it getting its (incomplete) chinese font coverage |
| 05:37.52 | EvanR2 | it must come with some fonts...? |
| 05:38.30 | EvanR2 | the more i try to add my own fonts to /usr/share/fonts and do fc-cache... the more kde apps refuse to use thme |
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| 05:43.08 | Ahmuck | i touched the ctl + shift + something else key and now i have no sound |
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| 05:44.04 | Ahmuck | ah, nm, it was the sound bar in amarok. some reason it got turned off |
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| 05:46.53 | |zeal| | hey,guys, do you feel that kmail's IMAP downloading from gmail is slow ? |
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| 05:51.25 | EvanR2 | |zeal|: what a minute |
| 05:51.31 | EvanR2 | gmail has imap>>?? |
| 05:51.40 | asap18 | lol |
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| 05:51.47 | asap18 | at least 3 or 4 months now |
| 05:51.50 | EvanR2 | freakin awesome |
| 05:51.55 | asap18 | yeah |
| 05:52.00 | asap18 | space is up to 6 GB now |
| 05:52.16 | EvanR2 | good bye my other email account which is swamped with spam but has imap |
| 05:52.31 | asap18 | lol |
| 05:53.45 | |zeal| | EvanR2: sure ! |
| 05:53.53 | |zeal| | EvanR2: Go and use it :) |
| 05:54.40 | |zeal| | EvanR2: but the downloading of IMAP is much slower than pop3 |
| 05:54.49 | |zeal| | that's a problem |
| 05:55.59 | EvanR2 | as long as it eventually loads |
| 05:56.46 | |zeal| | EvanR2: maybe my bandwith is slow |
| 05:59.53 | EvanR2 | and perhaps your latency is narrow :) |
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| 06:32.47 | EvanR2 | mmmk. |
| 06:32.55 | EvanR2 | having trouble with kde and fonts |
| 06:33.50 | EvanR2 | there are some chinese characters in kde apps and title bars which are not showing because somehow its choosing a japanese font which doesnt have those characters |
| 06:34.18 | EvanR2 | this doesnt happen in my other distro... so.. what gives |
| 06:35.31 | EvanR2 | wait im wrong... im just confused about where kde is looking for these damned fonts |
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| 06:57.04 | EvanR2 | exit |
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| 07:16.31 | gangleri | Hi ganymede! Sorry I use Xchat and do not see all notifications |
| 07:16.55 | ganymede | gangleri: sorry, did i notify you by accident? |
| 07:17.34 | gangleri | I will see your comment only if you mention my name in the message |
| 07:18.05 | gangleri | or if you talk in a private chat |
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| 07:22.11 | gangleri | ganymade did you get the private chat ? |
| 07:22.19 | gangleri | ganymede* did you get the private chat ?* |
| 07:22.47 | ganymede | gangleri: no... |
| 07:22.59 | ganymede | gangleri: i don't know what's going on...did you want to pm with me for something? |
| 07:23.39 | gangleri | I opened a private chat; it should be in your channel list |
| 07:23.57 | ganymede | gangleri: i don't see it, and why? |
| 07:24.07 | gangleri | mom please |
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| 07:32.01 | lymeca_ | I'm trying to upgrade from KDE 3.5.8 in Debian unstable to KDE 3.98 (RC 2) in Debian experimental. |
| 07:32.12 | lymeca_ | It's proving difficult though,as it appears to be dependency hell. |
| 07:32.22 | asap18 | wait a few hours for kde4.0 final... |
| 07:32.27 | lymeca_ | I can't figure out which packages to select for installation first. |
| 07:32.30 | lymeca_ | A few hours? |
| 07:32.37 | lymeca_ | I thought it was a week from now. |
| 07:32.47 | asap18 | it will be tagged today |
| 07:32.48 | asap18 | >_> |
| 07:32.59 | lymeca_ | What is the meaning of 'tagged'>? |
| 07:33.14 | asap18 | hmm |
| 07:33.18 | asap18 | cant explain it |
| 07:33.21 | asap18 | just tagged |
| 07:33.21 | asap18 | :D |
| 07:33.23 | lymeca_ | Can you try? |
| 07:33.30 | lymeca_ | Does it mean changes are frozen? |
| 07:33.35 | EvanR-lfs | so there seems to be a bug in the default kde 3.5 regarding chinese... |
| 07:34.08 | EvanR-lfs | i have a font which will display all chars but kde refuses to use it |
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| 07:34.18 | EvanR-lfs | firefox uses it great |
| 07:35.23 | asap18 | lymeca: they already are frozen |
| 07:35.26 | asap18 | like 7 hrs ago |
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| 07:36.21 | SAS_Spidey01 | Does any one know what dirs kde looks for fonts ? |
| 07:36.31 | EvanR-lfs | SAS_Spidey01: yes |
| 07:36.36 | EvanR-lfs | /usr/share/fonts |
| 07:36.41 | SAS_Spidey01 | mmm |
| 07:36.43 | EvanR-lfs | it doesnt actually look there itself |
| 07:36.46 | EvanR-lfs | it uses fontconfig |
| 07:37.24 | lymeca | asap18: Oh really? Then why is the official release a full week away? |
| 07:37.41 | SAS_Spidey01 | Then what on GODs green earth does xfontsel use to look for things? |
| 07:37.41 | asap18 | they have to give time for distros and people to pkg it up |
| 07:38.17 | EvanR-lfs | so what, the release depends on when distros get around to making a package/ |
| 07:38.29 | EvanR-lfs | i think the release just means when they put the tarballs on their site |
| 07:39.02 | asap18 | along with distros having packages made |
| 07:39.07 | asap18 | to make sure everything works |
| 07:39.24 | asap18 | how many people actually download the tarballs and compile them themselves? |
| 07:39.25 | asap18 | :) |
| 07:39.39 | EvanR-lfs | have you heard anything about 'release' meaning 'ready to apt-get with ubuntu' |
| 07:39.44 | EvanR-lfs | i have not |
| 07:40.13 | asap18 | ... |
| 07:40.55 | EvanR-lfs | i think it will be ready for distros to start packaging on the release date |
| 07:41.07 | EvanR-lfs | thats what release means to me at least |
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| 07:41.56 | asap18 | well you are wrong |
| 07:41.57 | asap18 | :P |
| 07:42.15 | EvanR-lfs | and whats all this hype, the release is going to suck just as much as the release candidates :) |
| 07:42.16 | stdin | "release" means release, not "released and packaged ready to apt-get/yum/emege |
| 07:42.55 | lymeca | I want to install it so I can hack it |
| 07:43.04 | lymeca | learn to program mucking around with things |
| 07:43.21 | lymeca | And it will be on a secondary computer |
| 07:43.31 | lymeca | So I don't mind if bits are broken or buggy. |
| 07:43.53 | EvanR-lfs | wonder if they fixed chinese :| |
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| 07:45.19 | Scott5114 | I hope it won't be months until fedora puts out 4.0.0 packages |
| 07:45.35 | Supaplex | no, just a year or two. ;) |
| 07:45.48 | Supaplex | heh that'd stink if they did |
| 07:45.49 | Scott5114 | oh okay. :P |
| 07:46.04 | Supaplex | hehee |
| 07:46.14 | Scott5114 | they do seem to take a while |
| 07:46.24 | Scott5114 | I remember waiting ages for firefox 1.5 |
| 07:46.52 | Scott5114 | I may just have to do manual compile/install |
| 07:47.02 | SAS_Spidey01 | All I needed was to get X looking in ~/.fonts |
| 07:47.47 | Scott5114 | but I'm looking forward to 4.0... based on the stuff I've been reading on planet kde I'm pretty jazzed about it |
| 07:48.19 | EvanR | SAS_Spidey01: fontconfig is supposed to look in there by default |
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| 07:49.08 | EvanR | system wide fonts should be put in /usr/share/fonts and then you should run fc-cache |
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| 07:49.35 | EvanR | kde's font installer concievably would do this for you, but when i tested it, it didnt work |
| 07:50.25 | SAS_Spidey01 | Evan so far kde/gtk+ apps have worked fine |
| 07:51.24 | SAS_Spidey01 | Programs not linked to fontconfig seem to have been the problem :\ |
| 07:52.42 | EvanR | like what |
| 07:55.37 | SAS_Spidey01 | xfontsel and multi-aterm are the two I have been using at the moment, I've also have had vims GTK1 GUI not find some fonts before I recompiled it with GTK2 support |
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| 07:56.17 | SAS_Spidey01 | I usually use vim in konsole, so I never found that a problem |
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| 08:44.14 | EvanR | if only amarok had a timidity plugin >_> |
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| 08:57.56 | Supaplex | if only EvanR contrib'd one :-D |
| 08:58.31 | EvanR | orly |
| 08:58.55 | EvanR | i wonder how easy it would be |
| 08:59.22 | EvanR | amarok play button --> aplaymidi --port 128:0 song.mid |
| 08:59.55 | EvanR | nevermind. timidity song.mid |
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| 09:24.12 | x_zeuss | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:24.21 | x_zeuss | in gmone it's /usr/share/themes |
| 09:24.28 | x_zeuss | but it doesn't seem to work for kde |
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| 09:25.33 | x_zeuss | and how can u change the system icons? all of them? even thoese that appear when u browse for something from an application (amarok for example) |
| 09:26.46 | Jucato | x_zeuss: http://docs.kde.org/stable/en/kdebase/userguide/customizing-desktop.html |
| 09:27.01 | Jucato | unless it's one of those icon themes that stupidly need some script to build/install |
| 09:27.30 | x_zeuss | i want to change the whole kde default icon theme |
| 09:27.51 | x_zeuss | doesn't matter with witch one, a nice one preferabilly |
| 09:28.07 | Jucato | a complete and properly done icon theme would do that |
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| 09:28.54 | x_zeuss | the link doensn't seem to work |
| 09:28.57 | Jucato | follow the steps in that link for icons (If the icon theme is properly packaged) |
| 09:29.03 | Jucato | works here |
| 09:29.44 | x_zeuss | hmmm... strange |
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| 09:30.35 | x_zeuss | maybe i have some restriction policy on the net |
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| 10:00.21 | FiNeX | hi |
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| 10:06.57 | doktoreas | hello everybody |
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| 10:07.07 | doktoreas | i have built kubuntu package for latest kde4 |
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| 10:07.21 | doktoreas | all seem fine, except i can'0t start configuration center :( |
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| 10:26.22 | Rudd-O | ...listening to the aseigo interview... |
| 10:26.22 | Rudd-O | http://www.tllts.org/audio/tllts_226-01-02-08.ogg |
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| 11:15.05 | danf_1979 | How can I change the KDE4 default menu with the traditional menu widget? |
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| 11:18.10 | pinotree | add the application launcher applet |
| 11:20.59 | danf_1979 | pinotree: but if I add it, the new menu is on the desktop, not in the plasma bar, so the old K menu doesn't get really replaced |
| 11:21.08 | danf_1979 | I dont know how to add widgets to the plasma bar |
| 11:21.10 | pinotree | add it the the -panel- |
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| 11:22.03 | x_zeuss | how do i install styles from kde-look.org in kde? where do i have to copy the files? |
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| 11:22.20 | danf_1979 | Uhm, nope. Is it possible that debian has not got this functionallity yet? :S |
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| 11:25.09 | danf_1979 | Is there anything like a qt engine for gtk apps in kde4, so gtk apps look good? |
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| 11:26.27 | benJIman | danf_1979: There are some attempts at the oxygen style for gnome. |
| 11:27.28 | benJIman | danf_1979: Or there's QtCurve which has both kde and gtk themes if you just want both to look the same. |
| 11:27.36 | x_zeuss | how do i install styles from kde-look.org in kde? where do i have to copy the files? for gnome it was /usr/share/themes, but what about kde? |
| 11:27.56 | danf_1979 | Ok benJIman, I'll take a look at that |
| 11:27.59 | danf_1979 | thanks |
| 11:28.19 | benJIman | x_zeuss: If they're just a theme you can install with the theme manager in kcontrol, if it's actually a widget style engine you'll have to compile it or use your distro's packages. |
| 11:29.56 | x_zeuss | benJIman: let's take this for example: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/Edge?content=67383 , how do i install this? |
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| 11:30.56 | benJIman | x_zeuss: ok it's a theme, so kcontrol -> appearance and themes -> theme manager click "install new theme" and select it |
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| 11:31.23 | x_zeuss | benJIman: i tried that but it says that it is not a valid theme or something like that |
| 11:31.48 | benJIman | Oh wait, it has no kth |
| 11:31.56 | x_zeuss | benJIman: i tried with kubuntu, mandriva, pclos |
| 11:32.23 | benJIman | x_zeuss: Ok it's not really a theme, just what you need to make it look like in the screenshot |
| 11:32.30 | benJIman | See the Readme for configuration instructions. |
| 11:32.46 | benJIman | Once you've done it all you could save as a theme. |
| 11:32.58 | x_zeuss | benJIman: ok, i'll try, 10x |
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| 11:58.24 | LuckY__ | Hello |
| 11:58.34 | LuckY__ | Anyone here with the knowledge about Kpowersave |
| 11:58.47 | LuckY__ | Cause it cant reconzie my battery in suse 10.3 kde |
| 11:59.28 | thiago | does the rest of Linux recognise it? |
| 11:59.50 | thiago | cat /proc/acpi/battery/BAT*/info |
| 11:59.55 | thiago | does that show any present batteries? |
| 12:00.17 | LuckY__ | uhmz im a newb to linux |
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| 12:02.28 | LuckY__ | where can i find that cat/proc/acpi/battery/bat*/info |
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| 12:02.58 | thiago | that's not a file |
| 12:03.01 | thiago | that's a wildcard match |
| 12:03.16 | thiago | the file is /proc/acpi/battery/BAT0/info or /proc/acpi/battery/BAT1/info |
| 12:03.25 | thiago | just run the command I gave you from a terminal |
| 12:03.57 | LuckY__ | ok its says no |
| 12:04.21 | LuckY__ | its says not present |
| 12:04.34 | thiago | then it's not KPowerSave's fault |
| 12:04.39 | thiago | your Linux cannot find any batteries |
| 12:04.46 | thiago | please ask in #suse how to fix that. |
| 12:04.51 | LuckY__ | ok |
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| 12:04.59 | thiago | it's probably necessary to update the ACPI tables for your laptop |
| 12:05.16 | LuckY__ | Thanks |
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| 12:46.52 | BCMM | it's being very very weird about encrypted baskets |
| 12:47.23 | BCMM | when i try to open one, it pops up a GTK dialog with the title "pinentry" |
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| 13:13.53 | Sput | good morning |
| 13:14.38 | Sput | are keybindings not working in current SVN a known problem, or is my setup screwed? what part would I need to reinstall? I don't get any actions in the KCM, and none of the usual bindings work |
| 13:16.23 | timtux | I just need a little help here with the kde4 plasma panel, want it a little bit smaller ;P is it geomertry or transform in plasma-appletrc which should be changed ? |
| 13:16.28 | timtux | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:16.28 | timtux | 14:16:22 < timtux> I just need a little help here with the kde4 plasma panel, want it a little bit smaller ;P is it geomertry or |
| 13:16.32 | timtux | ops, blame terminal |
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| 13:16.37 | timtux | :D |
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| 13:20.22 | Tatsh | what is the name of app that controls auto-detection of say flash drives, etc? |
| 13:20.33 | timtux | hal? |
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| 13:21.24 | Tatsh | yeah but how would one start the kde daemon for that? |
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| 13:31.10 | tonhe | I've got a strange issue with my keyboard in KDE now.. I just reinstalled and can't seem to get it working again |
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| 13:31.38 | tonhe | <PROTECTED> |
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| 13:31.48 | tonhe | I disabled KMilo - it had caused issues before, I tested via adding another global shortcut to kmix like ctl+alt+shift+up arrow and that works just fine |
| 13:32.04 | tonhe | but anything with like XF86Audio.... is a no go. |
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| 13:33.40 | yao_ziyuan | is there a cross-platform c/c++ ide for desktop rapid application development (RAD) that is as easy as Delphi/Borland C++ Builder? for Delphi, there is Lazarus; and what about for C++? |
| 13:33.41 | noaXess | hi all kde friends.. |
| 13:34.21 | noaXess | if i need to configure my internal wired network interface over knetworkmanager with a manual ip-adress, what are the steps? |
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| 13:34.48 | noaXess | need i really configure it over system settings, network? |
| 13:35.54 | pinotree | yao_ziyuan: #kdevelop... |
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| 13:37.38 | tonhe | anything? |
| 13:37.48 | h3xagram | Hello, I have a minor problem playing a video in Firefox. |
| 13:38.05 | h3xagram | I'll get the link in a sec. |
| 13:38.18 | pinotree | h3xagram: we don't support firefox, sorry |
| 13:38.25 | pinotree | try #firefox |
| 13:38.32 | h3xagram | http://quicksilverscreen.com/watch?video=11270 |
| 13:38.39 | h3xagram | pinotree: then what about Konqueror |
| 13:38.45 | h3xagram | I just want to watch the video. |
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| 13:38.57 | h3xagram | ... and I have a problem with that browser as well. |
| 13:39.02 | h3xagram | Same exact problem. |
| 13:39.36 | pinotree | "!! This video is hosted on Stage6.com, you need the latest stage6 player to watch this video. Download, install and reboot your browser." |
| 13:39.55 | h3xagram | Yes, but tells you to use mplayer |
| 13:39.59 | h3xagram | I'll get that link... |
| 13:40.13 | FiNeX | re |
| 13:40.23 | h3xagram | www.stage6.com/download |
| 13:40.44 | h3xagram | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:40.54 | pinotree | then use mplayer, as they say |
| 13:40.55 | h3xagram | So, I set the browser to open the content with MPlayer. |
| 13:41.05 | h3xagram | I haven't finished the story, hold on... |
| 13:41.09 | h3xagram | MPlayer gives me an error: |
| 13:41.21 | h3xagram | Let me go back in my logs. |
| 13:41.24 | lekter | I have been compiling kde4-svn one or two times every day in the last month. Now I am compiling the final 4.0 (I have read there have been more than 600 last minute commits :) ) Let's see ... |
| 13:41.28 | pinotree | (pastebin for long pastes) |
| 13:41.33 | lekter | By the way ... GREAT WORK!!!! |
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| 13:41.36 | h3xagram | Yeah, Yeah, I know. |
| 13:42.02 | h3xagram | Its a one-liner, anyway. |
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| 13:43.38 | tonhe | anyone have a clue what might be steaking the input before it processes the Global Shortcut |
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| 13:45.02 | h3xagram | Error opening/initialising the selected video_out (-vo) device. |
| 13:45.23 | h3xagram | That is what it says... I can hear the audio in the background, but no video. |
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| 13:50.30 | tonhe | nevermind i figured it out |
| 13:50.38 | tonhe | xmodmap has 2 entries for some of those keys |
| 13:50.42 | tonhe | no clue why, but it does. |
| 13:50.43 | prophecy | So, I have kde 3.5.8 installed under Gentoo and for some reason kmail never remembers how I have the columns set on the email list. When I start up it changes back to default and when I change *any* option in the kmail options dialogs and hit apply or ok. Does anybody here know why it might do that? |
| 13:51.17 | prophecy | sure it is easy to set when I start kmail up, but it is pretty anoying... |
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| 13:55.29 | JordanC | Hey KDErs |
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| 14:08.08 | whirm | hi all! |
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| 14:21.51 | tonhe | i verified that when i reset the kbd map with setxkbmap -model itouch -layout us it adds two entires for the XF86Audio Mute, Vol+/-.. |
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| 14:24.04 | x_zeuss | will kde4 integrate some nicer icons? |
| 14:24.15 | x_zeuss | i mean more polished, with more attention to details? |
| 14:24.40 | x_zeuss | or will they resemble win98 in terms of looks (not polished at all)? |
| 14:25.06 | mikkoc | kde4 will use oxygen icons by default |
| 14:25.25 | x_zeuss | that's good |
| 14:25.32 | JordanC | Oxygen icons look rad |
| 14:25.47 | x_zeuss | finally a nice icon set that i won't have to change |
| 14:26.09 | x_zeuss | no offence to the kde develop team but thoese crystal icons were just horrible |
| 14:26.20 | x_zeuss | even xp had nicer icons |
| 14:27.12 | feindbild | crystal icons are easily regognizable at small sizes ... which I can't say about too many icon themes ... |
| 14:27.44 | JordanC | x_zeuss: No offense, but you're not aware of how good Crystal is :) |
| 14:27.57 | JordanC | Maybe you should wipe XP's crap look from your brain then look again |
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| 14:28.11 | x_zeuss | JordanC: i deleted my xp long time ago |
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| 14:28.30 | JordanC | Well, it's still affecting your judgement :P |
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| 14:29.02 | x_zeuss | JordanC: nooo, i hate xp... it was just a comparison |
| 14:29.49 | x_zeuss | JordanC: no offence but they really are not to my likeing |
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| 14:30.33 | x_zeuss | JordanC: i mean when they are really small, let's say you browse for something with amarok and the icons area really small i really don't like that, they look like a 5 year old drew them |
| 14:30.47 | x_zeuss | JordanC: but if oxygen will be by default that is good |
| 14:30.57 | JordanC | I love Crystal's icons, they're great |
| 14:31.03 | JordanC | XP's icons aren't even comparable |
| 14:31.32 | feindbild | lol ... different people have different tastes ... no point in arguing about taste =P |
| 14:31.40 | x_zeuss | right |
| 14:32.16 | JordanC | feindbild: If it tastes like chicken, and it's chicken |
| 14:32.19 | JordanC | Then it's chicken :D |
| 14:32.40 | feindbild | I don't like Crystal clear for instance, or the crystal version shipped with latest KDE ... I still install Crystal SVG 1.0 |
| 14:32.51 | JordanC | Meh |
| 14:33.03 | JordanC | I use Nuvola |
| 14:33.12 | JordanC | But come on.. Crystal is DEFINATELY better than XP's horrendous icons |
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| 14:34.20 | x_zeuss | can u give a link for the nuvola icons? |
| 14:34.23 | feindbild | JordanC: INHO yes. My eyes hurt when looking at a default XP desktop. |
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| 14:40.12 | Jucato | x_zeuss: http://kde-look.org :) |
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| 14:44.32 | JordanC | Even though... |
| 14:44.43 | JordanC | You need a golden calculator to divide.. |
| 14:44.45 | zoidi | anyone from boston here? |
| 14:44.51 | JordanC | zoidi: Nope |
| 14:45.00 | JordanC | I'm from Littleborough, Rochdale, Manchester - United Kingdom :) |
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| 14:46.03 | Flyser | when will amarok for win32 be released? |
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| 14:46.48 | Jucato | Flyser: ask the developers over at #amarok but I doubt you'll get a definite answer yet... |
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| 14:48.02 | Jucato | hm... why does g++ always complain of no new endline at the end of C++ files that I write in Kate? |
| 14:48.23 | JordanC | Hmm |
| 14:48.27 | JordanC | Which form of line carriage? |
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| 14:50.10 | Jucato | End of Line? UNIX (in Kate settings -> COnfigure Editor -> Open/Save) |
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| 14:51.26 | JordanC | Hmm |
| 14:52.43 | Jucato | Hmm.. indeed |
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| 15:13.57 | fraujansen | hi! you know how can i rebuild the kde-menu? i've reinstalled linux and i have plenty of old-menu-entries... how can i fix this? |
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| 15:16.58 | Xinill | Damn |
| 15:17.03 | Xinill | Still no kde4 :/ |
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| 15:29.11 | FreshPrince | 'lo |
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| 15:30.57 | scruggsj | It's not Saturday, so which channel can I go to to discuss something going on with KDE4? |
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| 15:33.45 | SSJ_GZ | scruggsj: May as well try here :) |
| 15:33.51 | scruggsj | Okay. |
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| 15:35.33 | scruggsj | In KDE4 latest SVN as of yesterday, I would right-click on a folder and it would enter the folder and then bring up the right-click menu. I would need to click back and then try again and eventually I get the right-click menu without entering the folder, so it's like doing a left-click and then a right-click which means I get the wrong menu since it's not over the folder anymore. |
| 15:35.55 | scruggsj | This would be in both Konqueror and Dolphin |
| 15:36.30 | SSJ_GZ | scruggsj: I have a build from 14 hours ago - I'll see if it happens there. Hold on. |
| 15:36.54 | scruggsj | I was trying to do a simple rename of a folder and that's when I noticed this. I use the ebuilds on the Gentoo forums. The svn ones. |
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| 15:37.25 | Bille | scruggsj: confirmed |
| 15:37.55 | scruggsj | Bille: Thanks. Now I know it's not just me. :) |
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| 15:40.17 | scruggsj | ooookay. Now in Konqueror, I click on the Home Folder link in the left pane and I get file:///$HOME The file or folder $HOME does not exist. :( |
| 15:40.21 | Bille | scruggsj: in return: can you launch an app with krunner? for example kwrite? the launch button stays disabled. i guess the command runner isn't getting run, so there are no hits, so it thinks there is no need to enable the button. |
| 15:40.57 | SSJ_GZ | scruggsj, Bille - Hmmm, seems OK here (r757091) |
| 15:41.43 | scruggsj | Billie: What's an easy way to get to krunner? |
| 15:41.45 | Bille | SSJ_GZ: which issue? his or mine? |
| 15:41.54 | Bille | scruggsj: it's the alt-f2 dialog |
| 15:41.55 | SSJ_GZ | Bille: Sorry, scruggsj;s |
| 15:41.56 | SSJ_GZ | 's |
| 15:42.09 | Bille | right click run command on the desktop also gets it |
| 15:42.47 | scruggsj | Billie: I just launched Dolphin with it. |
| 15:42.51 | SSJ_GZ | Bille: Your issue seems to work properly here, too. |
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| 15:44.16 | SSJ_GZ | Bille: What revision are you on? |
| 15:44.37 | scruggsj | Although, I do have a slightly different issue. In Konq/Dolphin, if I right click on a file and say open with kwrite, I get an error message saying : KDEInit could not launch '/usr/kde/svn/bin/kwrite'. |
| 15:44.40 | SSJ_GZ | scruggsj: Same question to you :) |
| 15:44.42 | Bille | SSJ_GZ: 757254 |
| 15:45.09 | SSJ_GZ | Bille: Ah, that's much more recent than mine. Probably explains it. |
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| 15:45.21 | malv | so when does 4.1 arrive? |
| 15:45.27 | scruggsj | How do I get the revision number? |
| 15:45.30 | SSJ_GZ | malv: Undecided. |
| 15:45.36 | Bille | scruggsj: svn info |
| 15:45.56 | malv | well kudos to the kde devs. I wear my kde shirt proudly |
| 15:45.57 | SSJ_GZ | malv: *At least* 4 months, absolute bare minimum :) |
| 15:46.05 | SSJ_GZ | malv: More likely, 6 months or so. |
| 15:47.13 | Xinill | .....and when src will be tagged as 4.0.0? :P |
| 15:47.18 | Xinill | It was scheduled yesterday |
| 15:47.31 | pinotree | today |
| 15:47.40 | Xinill | Which hour? |
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| 15:47.51 | pinotree | not decided, but why? |
| 15:48.05 | scruggsj | SSJ_GZ: It will take me a bit to find it. :$ |
| 15:48.24 | SSJ_GZ | scruggsj: OK, never mind :) |
| 15:48.41 | scruggsj | I do know it's a revision from late last night. |
| 15:48.42 | Xinill | pinotree: I want to turn on svn && make today, and if it will be late, you know :P |
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| 15:51.59 | scruggsj | Is there going to be a krush day tomorrow? |
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| 15:52.38 | annma | probably not |
| 15:52.47 | annma | as the tagging is being done |
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| 15:52.56 | annma | and devels won't have the branch |
| 15:53.02 | SSJ_GZ | scruggsj: No reason you can't file bug reports, though :) |
| 15:53.10 | annma | exactly |
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| 15:53.20 | scruggsj | Ah. Okay. |
| 15:53.28 | lifeforms | Quick-Q: I've just installed. I've added "exec startkde" to my .xinitrc and KDE loads, but I don't have a taskbar, only desktop icons. Do I need to do something to get a taskbar? (KDE 3.5.4 on FreeBSD) |
| 15:53.51 | lifeforms | Whoops |
| 15:53.54 | lifeforms | ignore my question |
| 15:54.04 | lifeforms | the virtual desktop was larger than the screen. :') |
| 15:54.20 | Xinill | :) |
| 15:54.31 | scruggsj | *goes through svn repository to see if there is a fix to the not being able to copy two files issue* |
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| 15:55.13 | SSJ_GZ | lifeforms: Hehe :) |
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| 15:55.55 | lifeforms | I won't talk about how I googled 20 minutes for this, before I accidentally moved the mouse beyond the borders :') |
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| 15:57.07 | scruggsj | I have copied two files from one directory and I want to copy them to my home directory, however, "Paste 2 Files" is greyed out in the menu. -_- |
| 15:57.30 | scruggsj | ctrl+v doesn't work either. |
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| 15:57.58 | SSJ_GZ | scruggsj: Bug report, dude :) |
| 15:58.14 | Xinill | reboot |
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| 16:02.20 | Xinill | Damn |
| 16:02.23 | Xinill | cc1plus: error: .pch/release-shared/QtGui: No such file or directory |
| 16:02.32 | Xinill | Can't compile qt :( |
| 16:03.19 | Xinill | Oh |
| 16:04.15 | scruggsj | I was able to paste those files with Dolphin though. Konq only bug I guess. |
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| 16:05.27 | hsrd | Where are logs for any errors that happen when a client connects to XDMCP on kdm? |
| 16:05.30 | hsrd | The server issues a reset once I try to log in via XDMCP and I have no clue where to even begin. |
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| 16:06.14 | Xinill | Back |
| 16:06.58 | Alethes | hsrd: check /var/log/kdm.log |
| 16:08.01 | hsrd | Alethes: Nothing new. Is there some sort of debug mode I can set in the config files? |
| 16:08.08 | Alethes | honestly, no idea |
| 16:09.37 | hsrd | I guess I'll set things up to get local logins working and see if that yields anything. |
| 16:09.41 | hsrd | Thanks anyways. |
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| 16:12.49 | scruggsj | in KDE4, how do I integrate Ark into Konq, like I have it with KDE3.5.x? |
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| 16:13.27 | Alethes | does kde4 have the same file associations dialog? |
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| 16:13.42 | Alethes | because that's where you specify using an external app or embedding |
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| 16:16.21 | scruggsj | Alethes: KDE3, you just installed a addon thing, but there are no addons with KDE4, so they must be doing it another way to get ark integration, unless I installed it wrong. :S |
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| 16:26.41 | quaal | what does this mean "Could not start process Unable to create io-slave: Permission denied" I get it whenever i open a kde application (k9copy, konqueror, k3b) |
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| 16:32.18 | JLP | don't forget to vote for KDE and your favourite KDE applications - http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/2007-linuxquestions.org-members-choice-awards-79/ |
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| 16:32.33 | annma | permission denied is a permission problem quaal |
| 16:32.42 | annma | quaal: what distro? new install? |
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| 16:33.31 | quaal | annma, ubuntu |
| 16:33.34 | quaal | i'm running gnome |
| 16:33.41 | quaal | it seems to have started after i tried installing konqueror |
| 16:33.53 | annma | ask in #ubuntu please then |
| 16:34.16 | quaal | i've tried |
| 16:34.26 | quaal | it seems to be a kde issue as it only happens with kde apps |
| 16:34.30 | quaal | which is why i came here |
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| 16:36.59 | hades[nb] | quaal, tried rebooting/reloggining? |
| 16:37.10 | quaal | nope. |
| 16:37.23 | quaal | thats one of the reasons i got rid of windows. |
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| 16:38.02 | hades[nb] | quaal, well ubuntu is very much like windows, so I guess you'd try that |
| 16:38.24 | quaal | hades[nb], uhh |
| 16:38.37 | quaal | yea good call |
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| 16:38.48 | quaal | http://pastebin.ca/841382 |
| 16:39.08 | quaal | is that the reason maybe |
| 16:39.10 | quaal | the last line |
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| 16:40.13 | hades[nb] | quaal, well, you didn't mention you run programs with sudo |
| 16:40.19 | hades[nb] | that certainly is the case |
| 16:40.35 | quaal | hades[nb], i dont. |
| 16:40.43 | quaal | i sudo'd it to see if that fixes anything |
| 16:40.50 | hades[nb] | ah |
| 16:41.02 | quaal | it let me open the file browser in k9copy now |
| 16:41.20 | quaal | but when i try to copy it it writes the same error to the terminal again |
| 16:41.27 | quaal | and now it appears to be hanging |
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| 16:43.13 | quaal | oh. working now |
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| 16:43.53 | iarwain1 | Anyone here heard of KDEmod? Or better yet, using it? |
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| 16:45.15 | boom1992|away | iarwain1: yes |
| 16:45.32 | iarwain1 | great, do you know how to get automounting to work? |
| 16:45.42 | boom1992 | no :( |
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| 16:45.55 | hades[nb] | whazzat kdemod? |
| 16:46.07 | iarwain1 | KDE on Steroids for Archlinux |
| 16:46.22 | boom1992 | but you can perhaps ask in kdemod's forum^^ |
| 16:46.24 | handerre | zup |
| 16:47.13 | iarwain1 | hmm, haven't thought bout that xD IRC is just so addicting :( |
| 16:47.41 | boom1992 | ;) |
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| 16:48.49 | BiSs | moin |
| 16:49.43 | lifeforms | BYE |
| 16:50.53 | quaal | ok |
| 16:51.01 | quaal | i guess nobody knows then |
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| 16:52.34 | hades[nb] | quaal, knows what? |
| 16:52.41 | hades[nb] | you said it is working |
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| 17:00.37 | BiSs | anyone knows why kde screensaver lcok crashes without locking the desktop on kde 3.5.5 debian etch? |
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| 17:07.18 | quaal | hades[nb], I dont want to have to open a terminal and sudo a kde application every time i need to run it. |
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| 17:08.27 | aroedl | Stupid question: I just removed the applet panel, how do I get it back? :-) |
| 17:08.30 | annma | your install is messed if you need that quaal |
| 17:08.40 | annma | aroedl: kicker |
| 17:08.46 | quaal | annma, install of what. |
| 17:08.47 | annma | kicker & in konsole |
| 17:08.52 | aroedl | I'm using KDE since version 1, but that never happened to me. |
| 17:08.54 | annma | of kde progs |
| 17:09.02 | quaal | so reinstall them? |
| 17:09.23 | aroedl | No. Its just the applet panel, not the whole kicker. |
| 17:09.29 | annma | ask #ubuntu for hints I would say |
| 17:09.38 | annma | applet panel? |
| 17:09.48 | annma | what was that, back in kde3? |
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| 17:10.03 | annma | right click on kicker and use Add Applet |
| 17:10.18 | annma | you'll probably find it back in the list |
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| 17:11.26 | aroedl | annma: Why #ubuntu? |
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| 17:12.01 | annma | it was for quaal aroedl |
| 17:12.05 | annma | not for you |
| 17:12.10 | HS^ | WhaT you think. Which linux is the first to Ship kde4 |
| 17:12.37 | annma | most of them shipped betas HS^ |
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| 17:12.43 | maki_d_ | HS^: official or as an extra repo or extra option? |
| 17:12.49 | HS^ | official |
| 17:12.53 | annma | none will ship ONLY it |
| 17:13.02 | maki_d_ | i bet archlinux will have it in testing for a whille |
| 17:13.06 | HS^ | just on a cd. .. click next .. next.. next.. BANG kde4 |
| 17:13.17 | annma | HS^: that was already done |
| 17:13.28 | HS^ | noo that was betas |
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| 17:13.43 | annma | yes but why wouldn't those distro stop? |
| 17:13.43 | HS^ | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:13.50 | maki_d_ | its litle messy because its a big jump |
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| 17:14.09 | HS^ | i dont think its messy.. its progress |
| 17:14.20 | maki_d_ | progress is messy |
| 17:14.24 | annma | what apps do you use daily HS^? |
| 17:14.25 | HS^ | ok |
| 17:14.36 | annma | KDE apps I mean HS^ |
| 17:15.15 | HS^ | i use LyX (which i really like).. but its only Qt. i use KDevelop, will thise be shipped with Qt4 as backend? and i use amarok ... and firefox for browsing |
| 17:15.18 | maki_d_ | After many months of hard work, the first ktorrent release for KDE4 is here. :)) |
| 17:15.30 | HS^ | also i want to learn inkscape |
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| 17:15.33 | maki_d_ | just great http://ktorrent.org/ |
| 17:15.40 | annma | HS^: half are not KDEs |
| 17:15.44 | HS^ | oh and i use QuaNTA |
| 17:15.55 | HS^ | annma, no but most are built with qt4 |
| 17:15.59 | annma | HS^: Quanta is not ready, notr is KDevelop |
| 17:16.00 | HS^ | kdevelop not .. |
| 17:16.06 | annma | Firefox, no |
| 17:16.08 | HS^ | oh :( |
| 17:16.13 | HS^ | nnnno except firefox |
| 17:16.34 | HS^ | so that means i still need to install qt3 |
| 17:16.35 | annma | so in the list you mention few would be available with KDE 4 only |
| 17:16.36 | smileaf | Sho_: Yah.. konversation stalls/locks up only when trying to connect to a server. just waited almost 10mins and it still doesn't connect. |
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| 17:16.44 | aroedl | My systemtray is gone. :-( |
| 17:17.00 | annma | aroedl: add it, right click, add applet |
| 17:17.23 | laith | Hi |
| 17:17.30 | HS^ | annma, are you trying to say here that you need both kde3 and kde4 libs for example to run ... quanta on kde4? |
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| 17:17.37 | aroedl | annma: Well, it opens another whole panel on the right side of my screen. (I feel like an idiot, really) |
| 17:17.47 | maki_d_ | HS^ for a while |
| 17:18.09 | annma | quanta does not run as quanta kde4 |
| 17:18.20 | HS^ | what you mean |
| 17:18.23 | annma | HS^: I am saying that some apps are not ready in their kde4 versions |
| 17:18.33 | annma | like kdevelop, kmail, quanta |
| 17:18.40 | annma | you need to use KDE 3 versions |
| 17:18.48 | HS^ | i dont see how you mean that. they arent built with kde4 libs, but still with kde3 libs? |
| 17:18.56 | annma | they are not finished |
| 17:18.59 | annma | not ready |
| 17:19.02 | annma | they don't work |
| 17:19.10 | HS^ | but qt has a port with qt3 support in it |
| 17:19.16 | annma | lol |
| 17:19.38 | smileaf | apps still need porting to use the qt3 support |
| 17:19.39 | annma | if we keep qt3 code forever there's no need to have qt4 |
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| 17:20.11 | annma | a jump from kde3 to KDE4 is about porting, OK but also NEW design and refactoring |
| 17:20.17 | HS^ | Qt 3 compatibility library for Qt 4 |
| 17:20.24 | HS^ | This packages contains the Qt 3 compatibility library for Qt 4. It |
| 17:20.24 | HS^ | allows applications designed to use deprecated Qt 3 classes and |
| 17:20.24 | HS^ | functions to work with Qt 4, with help from the qt3to4 porting tool |
| 17:20.24 | HS^ | found in the libqt4-dev package. |
| 17:20.28 | annma | HS^: please |
| 17:20.32 | HS^ | what |
| 17:20.33 | annma | you're not a developer |
| 17:20.37 | annma | don't flood |
| 17:20.44 | smileaf | HS^: apps still need porting to use the Qt3 support. |
| 17:20.44 | annma | see, I am a KDE devel |
| 17:20.47 | HS^ | actually i am a developer but whatver |
| 17:21.02 | annma | well then, just have a look at some KDE code |
| 17:21.05 | HS^ | Smilad ok didnt know |
| 17:21.33 | annma | KDevelop for example is rewriting lots of engines and parser from scratch |
| 17:21.39 | annma | porting sucks most of the time |
| 17:21.41 | HS^ | but anyway theres already a kdevelop that builts with qt4.. |
| 17:21.49 | annma | that BUILDS |
| 17:21.54 | annma | not that WORKS |
| 17:22.11 | annma | you have a skeleton KDevelop, yes, that builds with qt4 |
| 17:22.29 | annma | because just PORTING is lame |
| 17:22.35 | HS^ | the parser for autocomplete? you work on kdevelop? |
| 17:22.39 | annma | behind Qt4 are new concepts |
| 17:22.45 | HS^ | uhuh |
| 17:22.52 | aroedl | annma: Is dockbar the same as the systemtray? |
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| 17:23.00 | annma | kdevelop is a dinausor and I only do small things on it |
| 17:23.06 | annma | aroedl: no |
| 17:23.12 | maki_d_ | just porting is wasted time :) |
| 17:23.21 | annma | I'll work on KDevelop when it's nearly finished |
| 17:23.41 | HS^ | i dont think its a waste of time. |
| 17:23.47 | annma | it is |
| 17:23.49 | netuser | hi, i am having problem configuring konqueror to show horizontal scroll bar, and hte bar at the bottom is too think with numerous adblock icons |
| 17:23.54 | HS^ | no its not. qt4 is faster |
| 17:24.00 | netuser | *thick |
| 17:24.03 | annma | you don't talk like a devel |
| 17:24.14 | HS^ | you talk like a priest |
| 17:24.18 | logixoul | netuser: known unfixed bug |
| 17:24.19 | HS^ | preaching to me |
| 17:24.42 | annma | well I'm trying to explain you that qt4 is not JUST a faster qt3 |
| 17:24.50 | netuser | logixoul: no workaround? |
| 17:24.58 | HS^ | and why you think you need to tell me that?? i already know this. |
| 17:25.01 | smileaf | just porting without using the new concepts is like taking a kid to a candy store and saying they can't talk, can't run and can't have any candy. |
| 17:25.02 | logixoul | netuser: well, try using a different image view kpart. |
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| 17:25.10 | logixoul | netuser: er, nevermind |
| 17:25.16 | netuser | ?? |
| 17:25.17 | logixoul | netuser: nope, I don't know any workaround |
| 17:25.19 | smileaf | think everyone knows telling them that is wasted time |
| 17:25.31 | netuser | :( |
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| 17:26.04 | HS^ | smileaf, the 'new concepts' like model view? new concpets like... what? |
| 17:27.00 | smileaf | HS^ there is also the redesign of many of the common widgets and other features that make things easier to use, more powerful, and use less code, etc. |
| 17:27.14 | aroedl | annma: I got my systemtray back. I didn't know that it is under "miniprogramm" (german). Sorry for bothering you. |
| 17:27.19 | smileaf | Telling a dev to not clean up their code as they port is evil :( |
| 17:27.23 | HS^ | QObject an d QWidget are made faster |
| 17:27.27 | HS^ | some names are changed... |
| 17:27.28 | smileaf | or add all the fun stuff :) |
| 17:27.32 | HS^ | everything more optimize |
| 17:27.33 | HS^ | d |
| 17:27.40 | HS^ | but you talk about "new concepts" |
| 17:27.43 | HS^ | i think is bullshit. |
| 17:27.45 | HS^ | oke bye |
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| 17:27.52 | aroedl | HS^: Its not bullshit. |
| 17:28.01 | smileaf | plus you have to remember its been 5yrs since they were able to do a cleanup or major redesign. |
| 17:28.06 | HS^ | so tell me what concepts you talk about |
| 17:28.07 | annma | aroedl: good! I don't have kde3 anymore that's why I could not be specific. And in french also "system tray" is a weird translation |
| 17:28.10 | smileaf | THOSE are the real concepts I'm also talking about. |
| 17:28.10 | aroedl | HS^: Have a look at the changes between qt3 and qt4. |
| 17:28.10 | maki_d | emmbeded phonon & webkit in qt4 ? |
| 17:28.11 | pparker | hi here |
| 17:28.21 | aroedl | annma: :-) |
| 17:28.23 | maki_d | thats new |
| 17:28.25 | HS^ | if i hear concepts i think of programming methods |
| 17:28.41 | pparker | i've been successfull ran kde4 in the past |
| 17:28.56 | smileaf | HS^ your also limiting yourself to the changes in Qt3 -> Qt4 instead of new idea concepts of things learned while working with old code. |
| 17:29.02 | pparker | but now when i try to launch i got this erroe message "KSycoca database corruption" |
| 17:29.22 | HS^ | what new concepts. |
| 17:29.32 | HS^ | you talk like a religious zealot talking about concepts |
| 17:29.35 | smileaf | HS^ try programming and you'll figure things out. |
| 17:29.40 | pparker | how to rebuild or delete ksycoca ? |
| 17:29.44 | HS^ | i work with qt4 |
| 17:29.49 | HS^ | porting qt3 to qt4 |
| 17:30.02 | smileaf | HS^ be sure to not do a API change or major rewrite in 5yrs.. |
| 17:30.21 | HS^ | ? |
| 17:30.24 | aroedl | HS^: What about phonon that will be added to qt in the future? It is a new concept. |
| 17:30.26 | HS^ | whats that supposed to mean |
| 17:30.33 | smileaf | after a while you'll figure out you *really* want to change something because its so ugly. |
| 17:31.08 | HS^ | aroedl, well the reason we start this disussion is of KDevelop. they say porting it costs much time because of "new concepts" |
| 17:31.11 | aroedl | HS^: As soon as phonon is integrated in Qt, you'll have to rethink how you access your multimedia devices and so on. |
| 17:31.14 | HS^ | so i ask what.... and no one can tell |
| 17:31.37 | logixoul | shut up |
| 17:32.11 | aroedl | HS^: Or lets take WebKit in qt... It means that you can use a totally new feature in qt in your applications. Much more needed than "simple porting". |
| 17:32.17 | pparker | is ksycoca in my .kde home folder ? |
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| 17:32.32 | HS^ | where does kdevelop need webkit or phonon |
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| 17:33.09 | HS^ | i know some ModelView classes are put to qt4. but besided that i see no more "concepts", just regular changes. |
| 17:33.13 | aroedl | HS^: Well, kdevelop could use webkit to display HTML stuff, but whatever. |
| 17:33.15 | HS^ | i think youre too religious. |
| 17:33.17 | HS^ | ok bye |
| 17:33.22 | HS^ | the discussion is fuckin over |
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| 17:33.34 | annma | lol |
| 17:33.40 | aroedl | Strange. |
| 17:33.43 | smileaf | lol, it was over when he stopped listening. |
| 17:33.51 | logixoul | yeah |
| 17:34.28 | smileaf | at any rate, does konqueror start for anyone in a recent svn ? |
| 17:34.49 | annma | you mean kde4? |
| 17:34.52 | smileaf | ya |
| 17:35.14 | annma | starts well, either from kickoff or from konsole |
| 17:35.25 | smileaf | http://rafb.net/p/AeuIPD41.html <-- thats all I get. |
| 17:36.01 | annma | did you rebuild kdebase recently? |
| 17:36.05 | smileaf | yes |
| 17:36.10 | annma | when? |
| 17:36.17 | smileaf | about 20mins ago |
| 17:36.23 | annma | and kdelibs? |
| 17:36.26 | smileaf | yep |
| 17:36.34 | annma | weird |
| 17:36.41 | annma | clean your KDEHOME maybe |
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| 17:36.51 | smileaf | everything is no older than 1hr |
| 17:36.52 | annma | there was a BIC change in kconfig |
| 17:36.59 | annma | clean KDEHOME? |
| 17:37.03 | smileaf | ah, I am using trunk |
| 17:37.12 | smileaf | no I'll do that. |
| 17:37.21 | annma | nothing went in trunk for konqueror I think |
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| 17:39.51 | smileaf | guess this is the one advantage to having mozilla installed and running a webpage irc client XD |
| 17:40.21 | smileaf | well that did it. |
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| 17:40.47 | smileaf | still no xinerama support tho :/ |
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| 17:44.23 | pparker | hi here i got a ksycoca database corruption error |
| 17:44.39 | pparker | can you help me please ? |
| 17:44.53 | smileaf | LMAO, konversation still croaks (locks up) and currently if I select the Identities window, it goes behind the Server List, and if I select Server list it goes behind the Identities window. |
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| 17:48.06 | AlexElliott | What does k3b need to rip video DVDs? Because when I select it, nothing happens - not even in the console output. I have transcode |
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| 17:48.34 | AlexElliott | The only external program missing is emovix, but if I read rightly about what it does that's for playback? |
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| 17:52.23 | laith | Has konqueror been replaced by some other app in kde4? |
| 17:52.59 | graeme | no |
| 17:53.04 | AlexElliott | The default file manager is dolphin in kde4, but konqueror still exists. |
| 17:53.18 | laith | howcome I can't start it then? :P |
| 17:53.20 | graeme | yes sorry stand corrected |
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| 17:53.47 | laith | In which package can I find it? |
| 17:53.49 | graeme | how siny is kde 4? |
| 17:54.01 | graeme | *shiny |
| 17:55.01 | AlexElliott | I think it's in kdebase. |
| 17:55.01 | laith | I don't quite like it now, but maybe the final release will be better... |
| 17:55.04 | annma | very bright graeme |
| 17:55.42 | annma | laith: you can keep konq for file manager and browser |
| 17:55.48 | annma | no sweat |
| 17:56.01 | annma | Dolphin is very nice though |
| 17:56.03 | graeme | cool ill have to update |
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| 17:57.25 | maki_d | the only thing that dolphin needs is copy to & move to menu item, but i bet that somebody will do that |
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| 17:57.30 | laith | That's what I know too, but I thought some dramatic change has been made because I can't run any... |
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| 18:02.02 | hurra | hi |
| 18:02.10 | hurra | i have a problem with kmail |
| 18:02.28 | hurra | in one of my accounts, all emails are empty |
| 18:02.33 | hurra | i'm using imaps |
| 18:02.50 | hurra | attachments are there, but the content is just missing |
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| 18:03.12 | hurra | is this a problem with kmail oder with the mailserver? how can i fix this? |
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| 18:03.47 | hurra | kmail 1.9.7 with kde 3.5.8 |
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| 18:09.00 | Ze_M | anyone using kde from branch_3.5 with a recent snapshot? |
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| 18:10.32 | hurra | ah, it works now again. strange |
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| 18:10.36 | hurra | thanks anyway, bye |
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| 18:18.15 | HS^ | what is the Kde4 Style used |
| 18:18.41 | laith | HS^: Oxygen |
| 18:18.48 | HS^ | ok |
| 18:18.52 | HS^ | i thought that are the icons |
| 18:19.17 | laith | It IS an icons theme but it's also a style and a window decoration theme |
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| 18:19.32 | maki_d_ | and a sound theme |
| 18:19.34 | HS^ | so also the wudgets |
| 18:19.37 | HS^ | widgets |
| 18:20.00 | HS^ | this stays the same as in rc2? |
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| 18:22.23 | Ze_M | anyone using kde from branch_3.5 with a recent snapshot? |
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| 19:08.22 | LuckY__ | Someone has knowledge about superkaramba? |
| 19:08.28 | LuckY__ | i cant install it |
| 19:08.48 | laith | LuckY__: What's the problem? |
| 19:09.04 | LuckY__ | well im try to install it |
| 19:09.09 | LuckY__ | so i extract it |
| 19:09.17 | LuckY__ | then im tryinh ./configure |
| 19:09.38 | LuckY__ | and it cant |
| 19:09.47 | LuckY__ | something with cc im a newb in linux |
| 19:10.07 | laith | LuckY__: Could you paste the last few lines of the output? |
| 19:11.11 | LuckY__ | checking for gcc... no |
| 19:11.11 | LuckY__ | checking for cc... no |
| 19:11.11 | LuckY__ | checking for cl... no |
| 19:11.11 | LuckY__ | configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH |
| 19:11.12 | LuckY__ | See `config.log' for more details. |
| 19:11.17 | EvanR | heh |
| 19:11.26 | EvanR | a distro that comes without a compiler |
| 19:11.27 | laith | LuckY__: Ah! |
| 19:11.35 | laith | LuckY__: what distro are you using? |
| 19:11.39 | LuckY__ | suse 10.3 |
| 19:11.57 | laith | EvanR: Fedora Live CDs come without a compiler installed by default |
| 19:12.20 | laith | LuckY__: run |
| 19:12.20 | laith | su -c "yum install gcc" |
| 19:13.19 | LuckY__ | huh |
| 19:13.33 | LuckY__ | with the ""? |
| 19:13.41 | EvanR | theres more to a build environment than the compiler... |
| 19:13.56 | EvanR | hopefully suse has that stuff too |
| 19:13.59 | laith | LuckY__: yes |
| 19:14.08 | laith | EvanR: hahahaha |
| 19:14.24 | laith | "hopefully" |
| 19:14.28 | LuckY__ | su -c "yum install gcc" |
| 19:14.33 | LuckY__ | it says |
| 19:14.34 | laith | LuckY__: yes |
| 19:14.40 | LuckY__ | yum : command not found |
| 19:14.43 | laith | it should ask you to enter your root password |
| 19:14.49 | laith | OMG!!! |
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| 19:15.02 | laith | LuckY__: hold on |
| 19:15.02 | LuckY__ | yes i entered the root password |
| 19:15.04 | LuckY__ | ok |
| 19:15.35 | laith | su -c "rpm -i gcc" |
| 19:15.45 | EvanR | ehhh :) |
| 19:15.45 | goric | LuckY: did you try to use Yast? |
| 19:16.17 | laith | goric: I hate Ya |
| 19:16.34 | laith | YaST and I rather would type 10 lines than use YaST |
| 19:16.53 | goric | laith: I agree |
| 19:16.58 | LuckY__ | laith |
| 19:16.59 | laith | Simple because typing 10 commands takes less time that YaST to run :P |
| 19:17.06 | laith | *Simply |
| 19:17.10 | LuckY__ | i get error : open of gcc failed |
| 19:17.11 | laith | LuckY__: Yes? |
| 19:17.26 | LuckY__ | file or map does not excist |
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| 19:17.58 | LuckY__ | do i need to insert my suse dvd or what? |
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| 19:18.33 | laith | LuckY__: As hard as this is to say.... Use.. Y.a.... Ssss. TTt! |
| 19:18.37 | EvanR | you have to install the build environment for suse |
| 19:18.42 | goric | :-) |
| 19:18.48 | LuckY__ | ok |
| 19:18.53 | EvanR | perhaps attempt to yum install kdevelop |
| 19:18.54 | LuckY__ | Well im a newb to linux |
| 19:19.00 | EvanR | and that will auto install the dependencies |
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| 19:19.30 | LuckY__ | are the files on the suse dvd? |
| 19:19.34 | laith | EvanR: Doesn't installing gcc pull the rest as dependencies? |
| 19:19.43 | laith | LuckY__: They should be |
| 19:19.48 | LuckY__ | ok |
| 19:20.19 | EvanR | no gcc is not 'build environment' |
| 19:20.25 | EvanR | its just the compilers |
| 19:21.04 | laith | EvanR: And that's what he needs to build karamba... |
| 19:21.09 | laith | Hold on a sec! |
| 19:21.23 | laith | Doesn't SuSE have a superkaramba package? |
| 19:21.24 | LuckY__ | uhmz im realy new to linux im checking the software |
| 19:21.29 | LuckY__ | dont know |
| 19:21.29 | EvanR | why dont you try #suse |
| 19:21.46 | LuckY__ | it has |
| 19:21.47 | LuckY__ | :D |
| 19:21.49 | LuckY__ | omg |
| 19:21.59 | LuckY__ | its on dvd |
| 19:22.03 | LuckY__ | im installing it now |
| 19:22.10 | EvanR | yet another build environment goes uninstalled :) |
| 19:22.13 | LuckY__ | laith u are a pro :D |
| 19:22.24 | laith | Uh... |
| 19:22.26 | LuckY__ | like i told you i had some basic linux @ school |
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| 19:22.39 | EvanR | what school teaches linux |
| 19:22.43 | EvanR | in my country linux is illegal |
| 19:22.47 | LuckY__ | i realy dont know much so i realy appreciate your help |
| 19:22.48 | LuckY__ | lol |
| 19:22.51 | LuckY__ | where u from ? |
| 19:22.54 | LuckY__ | china ? |
| 19:22.54 | EvanR | USA |
| 19:22.56 | laith | EvanR: Where do you live? Mars? :P |
| 19:22.57 | LuckY__ | lol |
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| 19:23.13 | LuckY__ | i live in the netherlands and we had some mandrake 8.2 and suse 9 :D |
| 19:23.39 | laith | EvanR: How is it illegal? Many distros are based in the US... |
| 19:23.56 | goric | lol |
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| 19:26.03 | EvanR | i think they recently ammended the constitution, you must buy software. since pay linux distros are uniformly terrible, youre effectively forced to get windows or macosx |
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| 19:26.34 | EvanR | sharing is bad for the economy |
| 19:26.34 | laith | EvanR: Fedora is still there... |
| 19:26.37 | EvanR | and national security |
| 19:26.58 | LuckY__ | thats why i think america is stupid in many ways |
| 19:27.04 | Thundercloud_ | EvanR: wtf, find out this constitution change plz. |
| 19:27.09 | EvanR | haha |
| 19:27.13 | Thundercloud_ | I'd have heard of something like that :P |
| 19:27.27 | EvanR | just joking |
| 19:27.41 | Thundercloud_ | I was gonna say :) |
| 19:27.53 | EvanR | however if something like that were to happy, you may not know about it, thanks to the media :) |
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| 19:28.00 | EvanR | s/happy/happen/ |
| 19:28.01 | Thundercloud_ | EvanR: Oh i'm in Britain |
| 19:28.05 | Thundercloud_ | We're better about that kind of crap |
| 19:28.08 | Thundercloud_ | ish |
| 19:28.08 | Thundercloud_ | :) |
| 19:28.12 | EvanR | heh |
| 19:28.15 | EvanR | BBCFTW |
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| 19:28.32 | Thundercloud_ | Shit yes |
| 19:28.33 | LuckY__ | well i installed it via the dvd but how can i run it |
| 19:28.37 | LuckY__ | where can i find it |
| 19:28.42 | EvanR | type superkaramba |
| 19:29.00 | laith | WTF is BBCTFW? |
| 19:29.03 | LuckY__ | <3 |
| 19:29.08 | Thundercloud_ | BBCFTW? |
| 19:29.12 | Thundercloud_ | It's rather simple my dear fellow! |
| 19:29.14 | Thundercloud_ | BBC FTW! |
| 19:29.35 | laith | LuckY__: Look int he KMenu, or try to typy superkaramba in the run dialog box |
| 19:29.39 | Thundercloud_ | If you don't understand that I suggest you look up internet speeks |
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| 19:30.23 | laith | Thundercloud_: That's the first abreviation that i don't understand |
| 19:30.34 | EvanR | on linux you can type... wtf ftw |
| 19:30.43 | EvanR | that will tell you what the abbrev means |
| 19:30.58 | EvanR | well, if you have wtf installed |
| 19:31.09 | laith | And WTF is wtf? :P |
| 19:31.15 | EvanR | type wtf wtf |
| 19:31.34 | laith | Hahahahah |
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| 19:34.24 | EvanR | on a more serious note, a distro can be illegal in the USA if it has certain software installed by default |
| 19:34.33 | EvanR | namely, libdvdcss |
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| 19:35.03 | laith | EvanR: and other codecs, that's why Fedora has livna repository for non-free packages |
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| 19:35.26 | EvanR | heh dvdcss isnt just not-free, its illegal :) |
| 19:35.43 | LuckY__ | Thanks for all btw |
| 19:35.53 | laith | LuckY__: :) |
| 19:36.01 | laith | EvanR: How is that? |
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| 19:36.40 | EvanR | entertainment industry has tight restrictions on what stuff you can play dvds on |
| 19:36.43 | EvanR | and in what region |
| 19:36.59 | EvanR | on linux, none of those restrictions apply |
| 19:37.09 | laith | Hahahahah! |
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| 19:39.53 | EvanR | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Content_Scramble_System |
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| 19:41.09 | vinicius_ | is 4 out in svn? |
| 19:41.21 | annma | out in svn? |
| 19:41.32 | annma | it's beng tagged |
| 19:41.35 | annma | being |
| 19:41.44 | annma | so not officially totally tagged |
| 19:41.56 | EvanR | what is tagged |
| 19:42.02 | annma | if you're a packager you'mll be notified |
| 19:42.04 | vinicius_ | hm, it was scheduled for today, wasnt it? |
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| 19:42.19 | annma | vinicius_: tagging is not something you do iin 1 minute, is it? |
| 19:42.31 | annma | if so, you can be the next release dude |
| 19:42.42 | annma | I said "it's being tagged" |
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| 19:42.47 | annma | it's not finished |
| 19:43.13 | vinicius_ | ok :) |
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| 19:43.46 | vinicius_ | hope we get some screenshots tomorrow |
| 19:44.11 | pinotree | tomorrow there's no release |
| 19:44.19 | Micah- | maybe if you demand them! |
| 19:44.21 | annma | vinicius_: LOL |
| 19:44.31 | EvanR | what does 'being tagged' mean |
| 19:44.34 | pinotree | release is on 11th, and starting by that date you'll see them (from us) |
| 19:44.41 | annma | vinicius_: go to youtube and watch videos |
| 19:45.00 | annma | vinicius_: there were betas |
| 19:45.05 | scruggsj | vinicius_: Check the source out now. The looks won't change by the time tagging is done. :P I could send you screens, though I modified all the defaults. *whistles* |
| 19:45.32 | vinicius_ | i know that, i was going to point out, it must have not changed much |
| 19:45.36 | vinicius_ | but anyway |
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| 19:46.58 | annma | vinicius_: it's tagged so packages are done for distros then distros do their stuff and in 1 week it'll be out |
| 19:47.13 | annma | vinicius_: all that takes time |
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| 19:47.26 | annma | just look at how many languages there are |
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| 19:47.31 | vinicius_ | annma, i understand |
| 19:47.35 | annma | 1 language => 1 tarball |
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| 19:47.50 | annma | and tehse are to be checked |
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| 19:48.52 | tonhe | anyone here an expert with kde desktop sharing ? (VNC for kde) |
| 19:48.59 | vinicius_ | but whoever wants can compile the final source from svn, right? i mean, at least tomorrow someone must have done that |
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| 19:49.11 | tonhe | I'm having a big issue with it on my quad head desktop |
| 19:49.39 | EvanR | vinicius_: it took me a day to compile kde yes :) |
| 19:50.23 | scruggsj | It takes about 6 hours for me to have kde4 compiled. :) At least it compiles without errors now. :P |
| 19:51.06 | Supaplex | tonhe: are all heads trying to eat you? That would be a big issue. ;) hehe. nice setup btw |
| 19:51.19 | vinicius_ | well, good to know the code is ready |
| 19:51.21 | scruggsj | Right now I am compiling QT-Copy. w00t! |
| 19:51.39 | tonhe | Supaplex, not quite.. but thanks.. Its my desktop at work |
| 19:52.25 | tonhe | Actually, the problem is when I VNC to it from my laptop. the mouse isnt where the remote client thinks it is.. |
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| 19:58.18 | Arelis | Is there a vanilla kde package in ubuntu? |
| 19:58.19 | scruggsj | Arelis: What do you mean by "feels like it's ticked-on"? Does this feeling bother you? |
| 19:58.21 | annma | lol |
| 19:58.38 | annma | scruggsj: feeling Freudian today? |
| 19:58.43 | MinceR | ubuntu does have vanilla kde |
| 19:58.47 | Arelis | It bothers me. And i've seen many others with the same problem. A lot of things crash, some hardware isn't supported by KDE, while it IS supported in GNOME, Ubuntu treats KDE as second-class, the next release of Ubuntu is going to be extra stable, while the release of Kubuntu is going to be unstable.. |
| 19:58.49 | MinceR | install kde but not kubuntu-desktop |
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| 19:59.16 | Arelis | MinceR: Will hardware work with that? Once i installed kde-core, no hardware worked. |
| 19:59.18 | scruggsj | annma: Yes I do, actually. :P |
| 19:59.31 | MinceR | the reason for the next kubuntu release not being LTS is that they want to support kde4 on the long term and it won't be ready in time |
| 19:59.42 | MinceR | Arelis: dunno. what kind of hardware doesn't work? |
| 20:00.14 | MinceR | Arelis: for me, the KDED Media Manager doesn't start automatically since the gutsy update, causing automount to fail. but manually starting it fixes that. |
| 20:00.18 | MinceR | (until logout) |
| 20:00.27 | Arelis | MinceR: My printer. In GNOME, it's detected instantly, and configured well. While in KDE, i have to manually add it through a (in my opinion) awkward, and complicated interface, and sometimes it isn't even detected yet |
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| 20:00.33 | annma | scruggsj: you made my day! |
| 20:00.46 | MinceR | dunno about that, i've only ever added printers manually |
| 20:00.53 | MinceR | and currently i print over the network |
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| 20:00.59 | scruggsj | Arelis: It's best to go with Kubuntu. Ubuntu is mainly for Gnome. Kubuntu is mainly for KDE. Even though it is marked as "unstable" it's Linux, so it's stable. ;) |
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| 20:01.35 | Supaplex | meh. stability paranoia. |
| 20:01.36 | Arelis | scruggsj: I've experience with Kubuntu. Used it for like 4 months or more. But many things really were unstable, and some things just didn't work. It's not "complete" |
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| 20:02.08 | scruggsj | annma: Yay! :D |
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| 20:02.57 | scruggsj | Arelis: ah. The next release should be better though. They have a lot of plans for KDE4, so it will be worth it to try it then. :) |
| 20:03.23 | cb400f | where 70%+ use KDE.. and where KDE is supported long time in enterprise products |
| 20:03.30 | jjenema | i wonder if they will have any invoicing software possibly embedded in kmymoney |
| 20:03.34 | Arelis | cb400f: Already did. Had problems installing packages, because i hadn't updated to the latest updates. When i saw that, i went back to Fedora, then to Ubuntu |
| 20:03.51 | cb400f | Arelis: 10.1? |
| 20:03.54 | scruggsj | cb400f: I can agree with that. openSuse is doing an amazing job. :) Okay, maybe he should try it. It's simple like Kubuntu and well supported. |
| 20:03.58 | Arelis | scruggsj: 10.3 |
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| 20:04.39 | scruggsj | I used openSuse 10.3 alpha and had no issues at all. :S Strange ... |
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| 20:04.55 | EvanR | it seems ubuntu is at the bottom of one side the hill. you can try suse but if you start getting discouraged you fall down the more user friendly side to fedora and ubuntu :) |
| 20:05.24 | EvanR | on the other hand if you want more control over your system you fall to the other side to gentoo, arch, slackware... and i guess the bottom is lfs :) |
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| 20:05.34 | scruggsj | annma: Has it really been one of those days? I think you could benefit from having a rest on the couch. :) |
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| 20:06.38 | jjenema | i hv fc7 |
| 20:06.39 | Arelis | The thing is.. if i install vanilla kde, will i get the hardware support of Kubuntu? when i isntalled kde-core, i had to manually install my printer's packages. |
| 20:06.55 | annma | scruggsj: lol, yes, too much KDE translations |
| 20:06.58 | jjenema | whats vanilla? |
| 20:07.09 | Arelis | untouche |
| 20:07.10 | Arelis | d |
| 20:07.12 | htmljunkie | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:07.23 | htmljunkie | anyone have screenshots of KDE 4? |
| 20:07.26 | htmljunkie | I haven't seen it yet |
| 20:07.26 | Arelis | htmljunkie: this one works fine under Ubuntu |
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| 20:07.34 | scruggsj | annma: Ah. That will do it. Words are bad for the brain. ;) |
| 20:07.49 | htmljunkie | Arelis that's because Ubuntu is a very popular distro hence more support |
| 20:08.05 | EvanR | Arelis: its not ubuntu that has support from printer manufacturers, its linux |
| 20:08.06 | Arelis | htmljunkie: but we're talking about KDE on Ubuntu |
| 20:08.11 | smileaf | htmljunkie: http://images.smileaf.org/img:b1abe8ded856571ed771c105c977dc8d <-- its old but there you go =p |
| 20:08.16 | EvanR | Arelis: that wasnt to you specifically sorry |
| 20:08.25 | Supaplex | it's cups and friends. |
| 20:08.27 | EvanR | ubuntu just has gathered all the drivers together for you |
| 20:08.37 | Arelis | EvanR: no problem. Yeah, on fedora it detected too. But on kde-core, it didn't. |
| 20:08.41 | htmljunkie | KDE 4 looks awesome |
| 20:08.42 | scruggsj | Arelis: As far as I know, (K)Ubuntu add their own wallpaper and stuff, but don't modify the driver part, so a vanilla kde might give you the same issues? |
| 20:08.44 | EvanR | kde-core doesnt do printing |
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| 20:09.08 | nitrousx | привет |
| 20:09.10 | EvanR | well, kde has many components |
| 20:09.23 | EvanR | one of them will have the printer interface, which will use cups imsure |
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| 20:09.33 | nitrousx | i am russian, |
| 20:09.38 | nitrousx | help |
| 20:09.42 | Arelis | the 'kde' ubuntu installs the whole KDE, every. single. part of it. |
| 20:09.48 | htmljunkie | which DE uses more RAM and resources? |
| 20:09.50 | htmljunkie | KDE OR GNOME |
| 20:09.55 | Arelis | err.. with ubuntu i mena packages |
| 20:10.01 | nitrousx | who speak to russian |
| 20:10.02 | Arelis | i think GNOME, htmljunkie |
| 20:10.03 | smileaf | htmljunkie: depends |
| 20:10.05 | EvanR | GNOME |
| 20:10.18 | smileaf | htmljunkie: if you only have the base open, kde... if you are actually doing something, gnome |
| 20:10.22 | EvanR | it also depends on if you get a braindamaged gnome with memory leaks |
| 20:10.35 | htmljunkie | brb |
| 20:10.35 | jjenema | i would have to ignorantly assume that kde would use more ram because of all the constant animations and transparencies |
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| 20:11.06 | EvanR | its not about the graphics |
| 20:11.12 | nitrousx | this chanel do not have russian people? |
| 20:11.16 | EvanR | its about the backend stuffs |
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| 20:11.27 | Arelis | KDE has always been faster to me than GNOME |
| 20:11.37 | nitrousx | hello? |
| 20:11.39 | ICQnumber | <PROTECTED> |
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| 20:12.03 | smileaf | nitrousx: its an english speaking channel, you might find a russian channel under #kde-whateverthecodeisforrussian but no idea |
| 20:12.12 | JamesB192 | Why would consistant eyecandy increase memory usage? If anything it should decrease it slightly. |
| 20:12.28 | nitrousx | thank you |
| 20:12.40 | EvanR | the code for russian is ru |
| 20:12.53 | ICQnumber | #j kde-ru |
| 20:12.54 | jjenema | i dont understand how that could possibly be..... |
| 20:12.58 | smileaf | EvanR: too drukn to think atm =p |
| 20:13.19 | EvanR | eyecandy is a very small part of kde or gnome |
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| 20:13.26 | EvanR | but yes it would icnrease memory usage |
| 20:13.38 | nitrousx | by all |
| 20:13.49 | EvanR | thats why kde allows you to deactivate it |
| 20:14.56 | Arelis | Does the 'kde' package install vanilla kde, but with all hardware support and drivers and CUPS etc etc? |
| 20:15.21 | smileaf | Arelis: that is a question for your distribution. |
| 20:15.39 | EvanR | kde comes in many packages, in general |
| 20:15.46 | Arelis | smileaf: Ubuntu. But the people in #ubuntu arent answering |
| 20:15.49 | EvanR | you distro decides which ones to put in 'kde' |
| 20:16.01 | smileaf | Arelis: tried #kubuntu? |
| 20:16.11 | Arelis | the 'kde' packages contains all parts of KDE. |
| 20:16.18 | Arelis | smileaf: no. thanks :) |
| 20:16.29 | smileaf | Arelis: well they'd know better than we would. |
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| 20:17.30 | EvanR | Aeoris: i installed kdebase package just now, and it has the printer dialog |
| 20:18.13 | gangleri | Hi again! are here some people from https://bugs.kde.org/ ? |
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| 20:18.48 | EvanR | if i had cups running and configured, it would allow me to setup printers |
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| 20:39.14 | saLOUt | I've probs with the micro of my logitech fusion webcam (via uvcvideo). it isnt be recognized by suse 10.3. Any ideas or mb at least a better channel (full of "logitech fusion micro"-proffesionals)? |
| 20:39.42 | pinotree | #opensuse ? |
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| 20:41.35 | JamesB192_ | saLOUt: ##linux I am asuming you're looking for a kernel or userspace driver. |
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| 20:42.24 | saLOUt | JamesB192_: i'm not sure, but i'll will also try #linux |
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| 20:43.50 | rubymonk | Hello everyone, anyone please know why this window is so ugly (and doesn´t work, btw) http://www.zoomtelecom.net/Annabelle/screenshot.jpg |
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| 20:52.27 | tyler__ | what's the best way to autostart a raid array? |
| 20:52.31 | tyler__ | when kde starts |
| 20:52.51 | tyler__ | i want to add the lines to assemble and mount it somewhere, but i'm not sure where |
| 20:52.54 | rubymonk | starting a radi array when kde starts |
| 20:52.57 | rubymonk | ? |
| 20:53.02 | tyler__ | yes |
| 20:53.28 | rubymonk | Sounds like a strange idea |
| 20:53.35 | rubymonk | why not before ? |
| 20:53.35 | tyler__ | why |
| 20:53.35 | rubymonk | what OS ? |
| 20:53.40 | tyler__ | oh okay |
| 20:53.45 | tyler__ | well i guess when the computer starts, sabayon |
| 20:54.02 | rubymonk | What is sabayon ? |
| 20:54.11 | tyler__ | gentoo-based |
| 20:54.24 | rubymonk | See gentoo documentation about RAID |
| 20:54.29 | tyler__ | okay |
| 20:54.30 | thiago | or see #sabayon |
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| 20:55.17 | rubymonk | Hello everyone, anyone please know why this window is so ugly (and doesn´t work, btw) http://www.zoomtelecom.net/Annabelle/screenshot.jpg |
| 20:55.50 | thiago | do you mean the ssh-askpass window? |
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| 20:57.27 | rubymonk | yes |
| 20:57.42 | asap18 | erm why would u post ur ip... |
| 20:57.43 | rubymonk | Well, it only ask if I accept this fingerprint |
| 20:58.01 | rubymonk | asap18, Which IP ? |
| 20:58.06 | asap18 | of ur ssh server |
| 20:58.28 | rubymonk | Maybe because it´s an rfc1918 address not directly reachable ? |
| 20:58.36 | asap18 | lol |
| 20:58.42 | asap18 | ive never seen a 172.x up |
| 20:58.43 | asap18 | :X |
| 20:59.00 | rubymonk | :) |
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| 21:00.38 | asap18 | it looks like ur missing some theme engines |
| 21:00.49 | asap18 | since you are using xfce |
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| 21:01.09 | rubymonk | well, if I add the host to my known_hosts file, then an other window prompts me for passwd |
| 21:01.18 | rubymonk | without textinput widget |
| 21:01.27 | rubymonk | just a label and an ok button |
| 21:01.37 | rubymonk | Guess I´ll take an other sc |
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| 21:07.14 | rubymonk | http://www.zoomtelecom.net/Annabelle/screenshot2.jpg |
| 21:07.27 | rubymonk | There it is asap18 and thechef |
| 21:07.34 | rubymonk | thiago I meant, sorry |
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| 21:59.18 | joker_vb | salut à tous :) |
| 21:59.58 | pinotree | hello |
| 22:00.08 | joker_vb | helo ;) |
| 22:00.23 | joker_vb | hello* |
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| 22:08.01 | iarwain1 | Hmm, sorry for bothering, but can anyone tell what needs to be met to get automounting working in KDE/KDEmod ? |
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| 22:09.01 | rubymonk | iarwain1, What |
| 22:09.03 | rubymonk | OS |
| 22:09.04 | rubymonk | ? |
| 22:09.09 | iarwain1 | Archlinux |
| 22:09.11 | boom1992 | archlinux^^ |
| 22:09.17 | iarwain1 | ^_^ |
| 22:09.18 | rubymonk | check automount |
| 22:09.28 | iarwain1 | where? |
| 22:09.42 | rubymonk | http://www.google.com |
| 22:09.50 | iarwain1 | rubymonk: i _did_ |
| 22:10.01 | rubymonk | man automount |
| 22:10.14 | iarwain1 | No manpage :( |
| 22:10.25 | rubymonk | http://www.google.com.br/search?hl=pt-BR&q=automount&btnG=Pesquisa+Google&meta= |
| 22:10.33 | rubymonk | google -> automount |
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| 22:10.55 | iarwain1 | i just said i already have googled. |
| 22:10.55 | rubymonk | first page, you already have plenty of stuff... |
| 22:10.58 | iarwain1 | http://docs.kde.org/stable/en/kdebase/userguide/multimedia.html#automounting |
| 22:11.03 | rubymonk | Well |
| 22:11.06 | iarwain1 | i have those thing up and running |
| 22:11.11 | rubymonk | not sure why you want to use kde for this |
| 22:11.17 | iarwain1 | err? |
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| 22:11.33 | rubymonk | lemme see this link |
| 22:12.04 | scruggsj | I have a minor issue with KDE4. The path "/usr/sbin" is not set. I switch to a terminal and log in as root and it's there. However, I SU to to root in Konsole and that path is not there. KDE3.x use to do that. :S |
| 22:12.18 | rubymonk | iarwain1, Ok, got it now |
| 22:12.22 | rubymonk | Well, seems fine |
| 22:12.31 | rubymonk | this link seems to have everything you want |
| 22:12.44 | iarwain1 | yes, but the thing is, it doesn't work |
| 22:12.54 | rubymonk | Do you have hald working ? |
| 22:13.02 | iarwain1 | yes, and dbus, and udev |
| 22:13.10 | rubymonk | do hald run ? |
| 22:13.16 | iarwain1 | yes |
| 22:13.49 | rubymonk | what do you want to be mounted ? |
| 22:13.51 | rubymonk | a cd ? |
| 22:13.56 | iarwain1 | USB drive |
| 22:14.10 | rubymonk | have you tried from console ? |
| 22:14.16 | rubymonk | to mount it manually |
| 22:14.20 | rubymonk | not as root |
| 22:14.22 | iarwain1 | That works :) |
| 22:14.31 | iarwain1 | well, i have to mount as root :( |
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| 22:14.44 | iarwain1 | i mount in a self made dir /media |
| 22:14.44 | rubymonk | allright, try as a user |
| 22:14.47 | iarwain1 | kk |
| 22:15.11 | iarwain1 | rubymonk: mount is only for root |
| 22:15.15 | rubymonk | right |
| 22:15.17 | rubymonk | man fstab |
| 22:15.27 | rubymonk | your user doesn´t have the right to mount |
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| 22:15.41 | iarwain1 | cool :) |
| 22:15.41 | rubymonk | which explains kde can´t do it for you (as you run it |
| 22:15.47 | iarwain1 | cheers! |
| 22:15.56 | rubymonk | it´s the second part of the link you just pasted |
| 22:16.04 | rubymonk | See ? "Mounting" |
| 22:16.15 | iarwain1 | well, i saw it, but i didn't think about it :$ |
| 22:16.18 | rubymonk | If your system does not automount........ |
| 22:16.20 | rubymonk | hehe |
| 22:16.20 | rubymonk | ok |
| 22:16.33 | rubymonk | now, check your fstab, read man fstab and things should get better |
| 22:16.38 | rubymonk | ;) |
| 22:16.54 | rubymonk | Now, I´m out for a walk |
| 22:16.59 | rubymonk | *gone* |
| 22:17.02 | iarwain1 | thanks =) |
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| 22:17.09 | rubymonk | You´re very welcome :) |
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| 22:19.40 | kenj | Anybody working with compiz? |
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| 22:48.14 | Romina | hi |
| 22:48.48 | Romina | where does KDE save the information, which file type/mimetype/extension opens with what program? |
| 22:49.29 | Romina | for example: I choosed to open all *.avi files with kmplayer instead of kaffeine |
| 22:49.33 | Romina | but where is this information saved? |
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| 22:49.55 | Romina | can this information (maybe a data file?) be ported to a newly installed system? |
| 22:50.24 | Xinill | ~/.kde/share/mimelnk ? |
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| 22:50.38 | Romina | Xinill, lemme look into its content |
| 22:50.40 | Romina | one moment pls |
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| 22:51.51 | thiago | Romina: ~/.kde/share/apps/profilerc |
| 22:51.53 | thiago | in KDE 3 only |
| 22:51.56 | thiago | in KDE 4 it's different |
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| 22:53.01 | Romina | I just try to figure out the difference between the infos in ~/.kde/share/apps/profilerc and in ~/.kde/share/mimelnk |
| 22:53.18 | thiago | they are not at all the same information |
| 22:53.45 | thiago | do you see any application names in mimelnk? |
| 22:54.11 | Xinill | I see |
| 22:54.23 | Romina | me too |
| 22:54.31 | Romina | I am going to do a diff -r |
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| 22:54.42 | thiago | between one file and a directory full of files? |
| 22:54.54 | thiago | here, let me help you: you'll get the entire output of both. |
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| 22:57.51 | Romina | ok I am not able to get it done |
| 22:57.57 | Romina | is there a variable like: |
| 22:58.02 | kenj | Romina, try updatedb then locate *.avi |
| 22:58.06 | Romina | mp3 = xmms |
| 22:58.13 | Romina | avi = kmplayer |
| 22:58.14 | Romina | and so on |
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| 22:58.29 | Romina | kenj, locate *.avi would give me 2000 files |
| 22:58.46 | kenj | i see! |
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| 23:00.34 | smarter | Hi |
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| 23:00.45 | smarter | I've found something rather strange with dcop: |
| 23:00.46 | smarter | dcop kdesktop KDesktopIface desktopIconsAreaChanged |
| 23:00.46 | smarter | Not enough arguments (expected 0, got 0). |
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| 23:01.09 | kenj | Would a known recent save in a locate search be useful? |
| 23:01.54 | thiago | SmallR2002: there is no 0-argument variant for desktopIconsAreaChanged listed |
| 23:02.44 | smarter | thiago: but why does it says "(expected 0, got 0)." ? |
| 23:02.55 | smarter | with two arguments it doesn't say anything |
| 23:03.08 | thiago | smarter: I don't know. |
| 23:03.11 | smarter | with more than two it says "arguments do not match" |
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| 23:08.43 | Romina | thiago, ? |
| 23:08.58 | thiago | yes? |
| 23:09.27 | Romina | please excuse that I have not been able to find it until now, but I could really not find it however I tried |
| 23:09.35 | thiago | find what? |
| 23:09.36 | Romina | at the moment, mp3 files open with amarok |
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| 23:09.45 | antiroach | how can i change the 'about:blank' homepage that shows up when i create a new tab in konqueror? |
| 23:09.51 | Romina | I need to find the text file which hold this information |
| 23:09.59 | Romina | so that I can manually change this to xmms |
| 23:10.05 | thiago | antiroach: it's always blank. You can't change the about:blank page. |
| 23:10.06 | Romina | as every other file type |
| 23:10.14 | thiago | Romina: ~/.kde/share/config/profilerc |
| 23:10.23 | Romina | this file does not exist |
| 23:10.32 | Romina | erm |
| 23:10.33 | Romina | sorry |
| 23:10.35 | Romina | it exists |
| 23:10.36 | antiroach | thiago oh, thats dumb :( |
| 23:10.39 | Romina | dunno what I did |
| 23:10.40 | Romina | sorry |
| 23:11.14 | antiroach | thiago well maybe you misunderstood what im asking? instead of having the about:blank page show up when i create a new tab i'd want www.google.com for example |
| 23:11.26 | thiago | antiroach: ah, sorry, that's not what I understood. |
| 23:11.34 | thiago | antiroach: I thought you wanted to change the blank page. |
| 23:11.38 | Romina | thiago, there are not all file types in this file.... mp3 is missing |
| 23:11.42 | Romina | as many else too |
| 23:11.45 | antiroach | ah no, change the blank page to something else |
| 23:11.51 | thiago | antiroach: I don't know if that functionality exists. Sorry. |
| 23:11.59 | thiago | Romina: if the file type is not listed there, then the defaults apply. |
| 23:12.02 | antiroach | thiago ok thanks ill keep looking around |
| 23:12.19 | Romina | thiago, I will set mp3 to xmms and look if the file changes |
| 23:12.36 | thiago | Romina: you need to look up the .desktop files for each application, find the MIME types each one registers and then order them |
| 23:12.58 | Romina | I changed the default application from mp3 to xmms |
| 23:13.01 | Romina | and the file did not change |
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| 23:16.10 | thiago | Romina: it should have |
| 23:16.24 | thiago | that's the only place I know where that information is stored, besides the binary cache |
| 23:16.26 | Romina | thiago, really, it did not |
| 23:16.28 | Romina | belive me |
| 23:16.39 | Romina | thiago, may kubuntu handle it different(ly?) |
| 23:16.45 | thiago | I don't think so |
| 23:16.53 | thiago | that's very, very low-level KDE functionality |
| 23:16.59 | thiago | they wouldn't risk changing that |
| 23:17.58 | Romina | thiago, maybe they did? |
| 23:18.10 | thiago | you'll have to ask in #kubuntu |
| 23:18.59 | Romina | I will |
| 23:19.07 | Romina | thiago, is english your first language? |
| 23:19.14 | antiroach | Romina you have looked in file-associations for x-mp3 and changed the preference order ? |
| 23:19.27 | Romina | nope |
| 23:19.45 | thiago | Romina: no |
| 23:20.28 | Romina | thiago, ok then I will try to write a simple understandable question in english myself (for #kubuntu) |
| 23:21.11 | Romina | antiroach, I changed the order my right-clicking an MP3 file in dolphin, -> open with -> and choosed an application and checked the checkbox for "default application" |
| 23:21.29 | antiroach | i dont use dolphin |
| 23:21.46 | antiroach | not sure if it uses 'konqueror' style preferences |
| 23:21.53 | thiago | Romina: dolphin? As in KDE 4? |
| 23:22.09 | Romina | thiago, d3lphin |
| 23:22.14 | Romina | dolphin for KDE 3 |
| 23:22.25 | Romina | its a kubuntu backports package |
| 23:22.30 | thiago | Romina: I don't know Dolphin/KDE3, sorry. Please repeat the operation inside Konqueror. |
| 23:22.40 | thiago | Dolphin in KDE3 is a completely different application from what it is in KDE 4 |
| 23:22.42 | Romina | ok I will repeat in in konqueror |
| 23:22.48 | antiroach | Romina do it inside of konqueror, and dolphin will prolly pick it up |
| 23:23.32 | Romina | but I need to say, that the change I made in d3lphin changed the application preference order correctly in kcontrol |
| 23:23.41 | Romina | so it seems as if it had done its job correctly |
| 23:23.49 | Romina | anyway, I will repeat the action in konqueror |
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| 23:25.01 | Romina | I repeated the action in konqueror |
| 23:25.08 | Romina | same result, the datafile did not change |
| 23:25.42 | hansengel | hi, noob question here: how can I port GNOME apps to KDE? I've been a GNOME lover for a long time but I just started using KDE alongside GNOME and I miss some of my favorite apps. |
| 23:26.04 | antiroach | just install it |
| 23:26.26 | antiroach | the package manager will grab some gnome libraries and the package should work fine |
| 23:26.32 | thiago | hansengel: _port_ = take the source code, throw it away, write it again from the scratch |
| 23:26.44 | thiago | hansengel: you can just run them if you want, unmodified |
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| 23:27.50 | hansengel | okay |
| 23:27.55 | hansengel | thanks |
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| 23:31.34 | Romina | thiago? |
| 23:31.37 | Romina | I have an idea |
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| 23:32.10 | Romina | is there a shellcommand to search for every file in /home/romina/ which has been modified within the last 2 minutes? |
| 23:32.29 | Romina | so I could find out what file has been modified after setting a default application |
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| 23:39.03 | joker_vb | bonne nuit à tous, fites de beaux rêves ^^ |
| 23:40.24 | Romina | bonne nuit joker_vb |
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