| 00:00.00 | *** join/#kde MethoS- (n=clemens@pD955D9DD.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 00:00.23 | *** join/#kde oshiii-_^ (n=eyelovey@dpc6746223141.direcpc.com) |
| 00:00.53 | *** join/#kde MaximLevitsky (n=MaximLev@89.1.39.252.dynamic.barak-online.net) |
| 00:01.25 | *** join/#kde tinin (n=tinin@170.Red-81-35-196.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 00:01.30 | *** join/#kde CarLuva (n=carluva@66.185.74.95) |
| 00:01.42 | Bassist | Hey, does anybody know whether KRDC supports RDP version 6.0 and upwards? |
| 00:01.50 | Bassist | I need this for a university project |
| 00:01.56 | Sho_ | phoenixz: The "if" part is a matter of someone writing a plugin for it |
| 00:02.12 | *** join/#kde olih (n=olih@lns-bzn-48f-81-56-218-88.adsl.proxad.net) |
| 00:02.17 | Sho_ | Bassist: KRDC used rdesktop as RDP client implementation, i.e. the rdesktop website should tell you |
| 00:02.19 | Sho_ | *uses |
| 00:02.46 | *** join/#kde sveakex (n=adam@unaffiliated/sveakex) |
| 00:02.58 | Bassist | Sho_: AFAIK, rdesktop doesn't support higher than version 5 of the protocoll |
| 00:03.02 | Bassist | protocol* |
| 00:03.14 | Sho_ | Bassist: That may very well be, I don't use RDP so I wouldn't know |
| 00:03.29 | *** join/#kde trumee (n=trumee@cpc3-seve11-0-0-cust396.popl.cable.ntl.com) |
| 00:03.37 | Bassist | Sho_: Ok thanks anyway |
| 00:03.47 | Sho_ | Bassist: However if and when it does, so will KRDC |
| 00:04.03 | Bassist | I just need literally _anything_ that will get me a remote desktop from a windows server to Linux machines |
| 00:04.21 | *** join/#kde chalcedony (n=llhull@c-71-56-76-189.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) |
| 00:04.25 | *** join/#kde sputnick (n=sputnick@unaffiliated/sputnick) |
| 00:04.27 | Sho_ | Bassist: KRDC should be fine for that |
| 00:04.30 | cheko | "Support for the additional features available in RDP 5.1 and RDP 6 has not yet been implemented." |
| 00:04.40 | Bassist | Dang |
| 00:04.45 | Bassist | cheko: Thanks for the info |
| 00:04.46 | *** join/#kde ktulu77 (n=theo@chs77-1-82-238-8-69.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 00:04.53 | cheko | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rdesktop |
| 00:05.14 | *** join/#kde awarring (n=adam@user-387g49g.cable.mindspring.com) |
| 00:05.30 | ktulu77 | SSJ_GZ: you are here ? |
| 00:05.30 | MaximLevitsky | Anybody is running compiz with KDE4? |
| 00:06.25 | tinin | MaximLevitsky me |
| 00:06.30 | ktulu77 | MaximLevitsky: there is allready a composite manager |
| 00:06.38 | Bassist | I'm off now. Thanks for the help |
| 00:06.39 | ktulu77 | and I don't think it will works with compiz |
| 00:06.54 | MaximLevitsky | I have a nasty problem with it, it makes KDE stall for a minute |
| 00:06.58 | tinin | compiz works better |
| 00:06.59 | MaximLevitsky | On boot |
| 00:07.21 | MaximLevitsky | I see this jumping cursor |
| 00:07.34 | MaximLevitsky | And I cant launch any application |
| 00:07.41 | tinin | MaximLevitsky how do you load compiz? |
| 00:08.40 | MaximLevitsky | /etc/X11/Xsession.d |
| 00:09.08 | *** join/#kde rami_ (n=rami@87.109.10.0) |
| 00:09.09 | MaximLevitsky | There I created a file that sets KDEWM to script that starts compiz |
| 00:09.31 | MaximLevitsky | export KDEWM=/home/maxim/bin/scripts/compiz.sh |
| 00:09.45 | tinin | MaximLevitsky too complicated for me |
| 00:09.59 | tinin | I use fusion-icon |
| 00:10.11 | tinin | and now it starts by itself |
| 00:10.16 | *** join/#kde membrive (n=membrive@unaffiliated/membrive) |
| 00:10.28 | awarring | in kde4, how do i add widgets (like application launcher) to the bottom black bar...i deleted it when messing around |
| 00:10.47 | Sho_ | awarring: Drag it from the "Add Widgets" dialog directly to the panel |
| 00:10.50 | *** join/#kde ebone (n=ebone@blk-224-210-90.eastlink.ca) |
| 00:11.06 | awarring | Sho_: AHHH! |
| 00:11.11 | awarring | i was dragging it on the desktop first |
| 00:11.14 | *** join/#kde blendtux (n=wstudio@ip56500490.direct-adsl.nl) |
| 00:11.25 | Sho_ | awarring: Dragging stuff between desktop and panel is planned, but didn't make 4.0.0 unfortunately |
| 00:11.39 | awarring | Sho_: is there a way i can get that black bar on my other monitor? (currently running 2 monitors) |
| 00:11.40 | *** join/#kde blendtux (n=wstudio@ip56500490.direct-adsl.nl) |
| 00:11.56 | *** join/#kde Paddy_EIRE (n=patrick@78.144.25.255) |
| 00:12.06 | Sho_ | awarring: Sorry, I'm not up-to-date on the state of multi-monitoring + Plasma |
| 00:12.15 | *** join/#kde BlackBsd (n=brian@72.168.193.117) |
| 00:12.50 | awarring | Sho_: ok, thanks :) |
| 00:15.09 | Qrawl | can KDE help me prove/disprove the Many Worlds Interpretation of quantum physics |
| 00:15.29 | *** join/#kde Paddy_EIRE (n=patrick@78.144.25.255) |
| 00:15.29 | pinotree | Qrawl: go to #flood for that. |
| 00:16.04 | Sho_ | Qrawl: KMakeSenseOfItAll is still planned for a later release ;) |
| 00:16.18 | Qrawl | ok lol |
| 00:16.40 | Sho_ | (short "K42", for Douglas Adams fans) |
| 00:18.28 | *** join/#kde The_Dr (n=Quentin@125-238-139-233.broadband-telecom.global-gateway.net.nz) |
| 00:18.32 | *** join/#kde sabayonlive-1148 (n=sabayonu@wnpgmb023zw-ad06-43-253.dynamic.mts.net) |
| 00:18.36 | *** join/#kde kaiser (n=kaiser@224.191.189.72.cfl.res.rr.com) |
| 00:18.36 | *** join/#kde tampakrap (n=tuxicity@athedsl-249066.home.otenet.gr) |
| 00:19.24 | The_Dr | Hi KDE team, am I correct in assuming in KDE 3.5 that kmail is part of kdelibs or kdebase? |
| 00:19.55 | pinotree | nope, it's part of kdepim |
| 00:19.57 | crazy | The_Dr: no is part of kdepim |
| 00:19.57 | Sho_ | The_Dr: Nope. KMail is in kdepim, among related applications |
| 00:20.08 | pinotree | (i was first :P) |
| 00:20.12 | crazy | =) |
| 00:20.36 | Platyna | ;) |
| 00:20.46 | Sho_ | you win some, you lose some |
| 00:20.47 | Sho_ | ;) |
| 00:21.10 | The_Dr | Sho_: Okay, has this been done with the latest release of KDE4.0? |
| 00:21.23 | The_Dr | Sho_: Kmail merged into the kdepium package? |
| 00:21.38 | Sho_ | The_Dr: No, KMail has always been in kdepim |
| 00:21.54 | pinotree | The_Dr: no, kdepim has not been released with kde 4.0; this means no kmail kde4 version |
| 00:21.57 | Sho_ | The_Dr: Furthermore, kdepim has not been released with KDE 4.0 as it was not ready, i.e. there's no KMail in KDE 4.0 |
| 00:22.00 | pinotree | (... yet) |
| 00:22.06 | The_Dr | Sho_: I am using the SuSE rpms, and we alwaysuse the kde4-kmail rpm in yast? |
| 00:22.21 | awarring | in kde4, what is the name of the black bar at the bottom? |
| 00:22.25 | *** join/#kde mnabil (n=mnabil@62.135.96.88) |
| 00:22.26 | awarring | so i know how to refer to it |
| 00:22.28 | Sho_ | awarring: "The panel" |
| 00:22.44 | awarring | ahh |
| 00:22.46 | Sho_ | The_Dr: If SUSE has a package of the KDE 4 version of KMail, it's a pre-release copy |
| 00:22.53 | *** join/#kde kaiser (n=kaiser@224.191.189.72.cfl.res.rr.com) |
| 00:23.23 | Sho_ | awarring: On an app level, panels are part of "Plasma" which is responsible for both the desktops and the panels |
| 00:23.31 | The_Dr | Sho_: Excellent, it works quite well. Although I am finding, upgrading from kde 3.97 to 43.0, wants to remove kmail, kdepim, akregator (etc) |
| 00:24.11 | awarring | ahh |
| 00:24.36 | crazy | The_Dr: because is not released with 4.0 probably :) |
| 00:25.08 | The_Dr | crazy: I think I'll stay in 3.97 land until kmail is out for 4.0.x |
| 00:25.11 | kaiser | whats a good program to make a avi to a dvd |
| 00:25.23 | *** join/#kde kaiser (n=kaiser@224.191.189.72.cfl.res.rr.com) |
| 00:25.58 | Sho_ | The_Dr: kdepim (and thus KMail) will be released first with KDE 4.1 in 6-9 months |
| 00:26.05 | crazy | The_Dr: is not a good idea |
| 00:26.31 | Sho_ | The_Dr: You can use the KDE 3 version of KMail in KDE 4, too, though ... |
| 00:26.31 | The_Dr | Sho_: All the same, without kmail I'm lost :-( |
| 00:26.52 | *** join/#kde mirshafie_ (n=mirshafi@84-217-19-148.tn.glocalnet.net) |
| 00:26.52 | The_Dr | Sho_: In SuSE using kde3 apps in kde4 tends to break the panel |
| 00:27.11 | Sho_ | The_Dr: That might be fixed in 4.0.x (many panel fixes coming) |
| 00:29.23 | kaiser | whats a good program to make a avi to a dvd |
| 00:29.32 | *** join/#kde emu (n=emu@pD9EB471C.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 00:29.39 | *** join/#kde kaiser (n=kaiser@224.191.189.72.cfl.res.rr.com) |
| 00:30.01 | slackmase | kaiser: qdvdauthor |
| 00:30.46 | *** join/#kde christoph84 (n=christop@85.124.169.164) |
| 00:33.39 | kaiser | is it gui |
| 00:33.55 | *** join/#kde kaiser (n=kaiser@224.191.189.72.cfl.res.rr.com) |
| 00:35.41 | awarring | is it normal for the system settings application to not have an icon? |
| 00:35.50 | awarring | System Settings KDE 4 |
| 00:35.57 | *** join/#kde AnMaster_ (n=AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster) |
| 00:36.40 | *** join/#kde Seiya (n=Seiya@c-66-31-49-78.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) |
| 00:36.45 | Sho_ | awarring: It has one for me, but I'm on SVN rather than 4.0.0 |
| 00:36.52 | awarring | ah |
| 00:38.00 | awarring | KDE4 is pretty awesome at first glance...thanks to everyone for making it possible! |
| 00:38.20 | *** join/#kde bardun (n=bardun@124.80-203-35.nextgentel.com) |
| 00:39.44 | KyleS-home | I see. |
| 00:40.43 | *** join/#kde root (n=root@84-235-60-53.dsl.saudi.net.sa) |
| 00:40.43 | *** join/#kde _root (n=root@84-235-60-53.dsl.saudi.net.sa) |
| 00:43.35 | *** join/#kde Mek_ (n=marijn@s55917044.adsl.wanadoo.nl) |
| 00:45.28 | *** join/#kde Shirakawasuna (n=nick@71-217-94-243.tukw.qwest.net) |
| 00:45.39 | *** join/#kde insulina (n=insulina@bl5-149-25.dsl.telepac.pt) |
| 00:46.51 | *** join/#kde lavacano201014 (i=lava@unaffiliated/lavacano201014) |
| 00:49.13 | *** join/#kde Shirakawasuna (n=nick@71-217-94-243.tukw.qwest.net) |
| 00:49.24 | *** join/#kde xoqa (n=h@unaffiliated/hydan) |
| 00:49.30 | *** join/#kde Wofl (n=nils@ip68-97-30-144.ok.ok.cox.net) |
| 00:49.45 | *** join/#kde rawake (n=lion@adsl-99-165-86-230.dsl.irvnca.sbcglobal.net) |
| 00:49.53 | rawake | what does the K in KDE mean? |
| 00:50.38 | rohanpm | kawesome |
| 00:50.39 | *** join/#kde MethoS- (n=clemens@pD955D9DD.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 00:50.47 | rawake | HAHA |
| 00:50.49 | aroedl | rawake: It's a secret. There are a lot of conspiracy theories around that. |
| 00:51.15 | Sho_ | rawake: The Klingon translation team says it's "Klingon Desktop Environment" |
| 00:51.15 | rawake | it has to stand for Ketamine, i have no doubt about that in my mind |
| 00:51.23 | *** join/#kde AssociateX (n=HellBoun@67.60.244.195) |
| 00:52.56 | *** join/#kde emu_ (n=emu@pD9EB471C.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 00:54.17 | *** join/#kde kc8hfi (n=kc8hfi@75.108.92.235) |
| 00:57.49 | Dark_Apostrophe | rawake: It originally stood for Kool |
| 00:57.51 | Dark_Apostrophe | rawake: Now it just says K |
| 00:58.03 | *** join/#kde tlmarker (n=tlmarker@12-218-235-85.client.mchsi.com) |
| 00:58.31 | tlmarker | can someone help me with KDE4? |
| 00:59.57 | JordanC | tlmarker: Sure |
| 01:01.09 | rawake | any of you guys using kde4 on suse 10.3? |
| 01:01.38 | Dark_Apostrophe | I'm still using KDE3.5 on Debian... |
| 01:03.08 | *** join/#kde haroon (n=haroon@c-71-60-155-7.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) |
| 01:03.39 | haroon | While my system clock has the right time, KDE will not let me adjust the time zones. The only time zone available is UTC. Any idea how to fix that? |
| 01:06.06 | tlmarker | JordanC: I just installed KDE4 and it seems to keep freezing up on me. I even tried a new install of Kubuntu 7.10, thinksing I had something conflicting with it, but it still freezes. I was wondering what could be wrong. |
| 01:06.19 | JordanC | Hmm |
| 01:06.24 | *** join/#kde a__thing (n=notroot@c-98-193-50-46.hsd1.il.comcast.net) |
| 01:06.34 | JordanC | Does it not load up, or does KDE load and then freeze |
| 01:07.41 | tlmarker | it loads fine. I use it for a little while, and it freezes. last time it froze I was looking at the menu. |
| 01:08.49 | *** part/#kde rawake (n=lion@adsl-99-165-86-230.dsl.irvnca.sbcglobal.net) |
| 01:08.56 | *** join/#kde padde (n=padde@unaffiliated/padde) |
| 01:11.36 | *** join/#kde Anarky (n=anarky@lav35-1-82-236-137-143.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 01:11.57 | *** join/#kde onesandzeros (n=onesandz@c-68-82-114-183.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) |
| 01:13.03 | JordanC | Hmm |
| 01:13.06 | JordanC | How odd |
| 01:13.41 | *** join/#kde Chid (n=charley@ACBD0229.ipt.aol.com) |
| 01:14.20 | tlmarker | i do have a nvidia card installed and was able to get the drivers installed. I have tried everything I could think of, but no luck. |
| 01:15.05 | tinin | where should I set up gtk apps to look better? |
| 01:15.13 | tinin | or to define a theme for them |
| 01:15.26 | aroedl | tlmarker: Where you "looking" or "starring" at the menu? |
| 01:15.31 | aroedl | tlmarker: -h |
| 01:16.49 | The_Dr | Ohhh Because the Panel is essentially a plasma applet, one can design a funky new panel replacement cant they? |
| 01:17.20 | *** join/#kde Techku_F8 (n=taek@astound-69-42-13-149.ca.astound.net) |
| 01:17.39 | *** part/#kde Techku_F8 (n=taek@astound-69-42-13-149.ca.astound.net) |
| 01:18.08 | tlmarker | i ran the mouse of the k menu button, and the menu open, but didnot display the contents. The mouse then slows down. I am unadle to use the CTRL-ALT-BACKSPACE to restart X. The mouse will move, but nothing opens when I click. By the way, the menu stays open with nothing displayed. |
| 01:18.23 | *** join/#kde Tini_cpn (i=Tini@202.167.211.4) |
| 01:18.27 | *** join/#kde am_ (n=am@ppp234-143.static.internode.on.net) |
| 01:19.15 | *** join/#kde meister__ (n=meister@CPE001310d428f3-CM001bd7ac2782.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) |
| 01:19.41 | *** join/#kde Zeek (n=isaac@host-209-228-220-24.midco.net) |
| 01:20.25 | *** join/#kde Tini (i=Tini@221.148.142.183) |
| 01:23.23 | *** join/#kde Chid (n=charley@ACBD0229.ipt.aol.com) |
| 01:26.04 | *** join/#kde meister__ (n=meister@CPE001310d428f3-CM001bd7ac2782.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) |
| 01:27.04 | *** join/#kde zeldaII (n=zeldaII@216.157.208.26) |
| 01:27.38 | zeldaII | Where would I be able to dl more plasmoids for kde4 |
| 01:27.47 | *** part/#kde flithm (n=tim@blk-222-116-189.eastlink.ca) |
| 01:29.09 | *** join/#kde tagx (n=thomas@pool-70-110-18-92.washdc.fios.verizon.net) |
| 01:29.43 | *** join/#kde k1lumin4t1 (i=sortadi@unaffiliated/k1lumin4t1) |
| 01:30.32 | *** join/#kde meister__ (n=meister@CPE001310d428f3-CM001bd7ac2782.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) |
| 01:32.44 | *** join/#kde root__ (n=root@210.3.0.19) |
| 01:34.18 | Qrawl | nowhere |
| 01:35.36 | *** join/#kde meister_ (n=meister@CPE001310d428f3-CM001bd7ac2782.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) |
| 01:37.05 | *** join/#kde Wofl (n=nils@ip68-97-30-144.ok.ok.cox.net) |
| 01:38.09 | illogic-al | The dr: that they can |
| 01:38.39 | illogic-al | tlmarker: sounds like X froze. |
| 01:38.59 | illogic-al | if you can ssh into your machine from another and kill X that might solve your problem. |
| 01:39.20 | illogic-al | otherwise you can try the ctrl+alt+f1 to the terminal and kill X from there |
| 01:39.31 | illogic-al | but chances are that won't work. |
| 01:39.42 | illogic-al | because X is frozen. |
| 01:39.53 | illogic-al | and unresponsive |
| 01:40.14 | *** join/#kde meister_ (n=meister@CPE001310d428f3-CM001bd7ac2782.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) |
| 01:40.49 | *** join/#kde fishbowls (n=fishbowl@76.67.220.40) |
| 01:46.29 | *** join/#kde sluo (n=sluo@210.72.242.245) |
| 01:46.32 | *** join/#kde ganymede (n=ganymede@unaffiliated/ganymede) |
| 01:47.18 | tlmarker | illogi-al: i tried that, and oyu are correct that didnot work. I am pritty sure that it is a KDE4 problem. I am using KDE3.5 (I think) and everything is working fine. I did have this problem with KDE3.5. I solved it by installing the nvidia drivers, and everything worked. I installed the nvidia drivers while using KDE4 and thatdid not solved the problem. Would the video drivers have this kind of effect with KDE? |
| 01:47.42 | *** join/#kde ehc (n=evan@wall.pacinfo.com) |
| 01:48.00 | illogic-al | yes. |
| 01:48.03 | *** join/#kde glite (n=glite@dhcp-199-74-83-162.res-hall.northwestern.edu) |
| 01:48.19 | illogic-al | and the nvidia drivers are probably to blame again. |
| 01:48.47 | illogic-al | try updating to the latest drivers and if the problem persists. go to #nvidia to try and troubleshoot. |
| 01:48.48 | *** part/#kde glite (n=glite@dhcp-199-74-83-162.res-hall.northwestern.edu) |
| 01:52.57 | *** part/#kde zxy_64 (n=ziga@unaffiliated/zxy64/x-762372) |
| 01:53.09 | *** join/#kde licio (n=licio@201.80.241.140) |
| 01:53.21 | *** join/#kde milciades (n=milciade@200.3.248.46) |
| 01:58.24 | *** part/#kde tlmarker (n=tlmarker@12-218-235-85.client.mchsi.com) |
| 01:59.01 | *** join/#kde renrutal (n=renrutal@200-103-90-98.cbace702.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) |
| 02:00.30 | *** join/#kde Phoozer (n=phoozer@jinx.akiraweb.com) |
| 02:01.31 | *** part/#kde wftl (n=mgagne@CPE00045a5aa82b-CM00159a417d3c.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) |
| 02:05.47 | *** join/#kde linoob (n=netuser@101.88.50.60.cbj04-home.tm.net.my) |
| 02:11.49 | *** join/#kde defense|twin (n=jepz@pD950F7CB.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 02:12.27 | *** join/#kde cheko (n=jan@p3EE24FB8.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 02:13.01 | *** join/#kde Lanoxx (n=ssg@vpn-136-010.rz.uni-mannheim.de) |
| 02:14.16 | *** join/#kde Techku_F8 (n=taek@astound-69-42-13-149.ca.astound.net) |
| 02:14.42 | *** join/#kde aidencade (n=aidencad@d193-20-40.home3.cgocable.net) |
| 02:16.44 | *** part/#kde aidencade (n=aidencad@d193-20-40.home3.cgocable.net) |
| 02:19.46 | *** join/#kde tlmarker (n=tlmarker@12-218-235-85.client.mchsi.com) |
| 02:21.35 | *** part/#kde tlmarker (n=tlmarker@12-218-235-85.client.mchsi.com) |
| 02:21.49 | *** join/#kde linoob (n=netuser@101.88.50.60.cbj04-home.tm.net.my) |
| 02:22.39 | *** join/#kde neur1 (n=neur1@udp094183uds.hawaiiantel.net) |
| 02:24.52 | *** join/#kde Phoozer (n=phoozer@jinx.akiraweb.com) |
| 02:25.38 | *** join/#kde newbie_ (n=nobody@h-66-134-134-142.phlapafg.covad.net) |
| 02:26.16 | newbie_ | hola got a sillt question, is it possible to seperate the applications menu from kde3 and kde 4, |
| 02:26.24 | newbie_ | sillt = silly sorry abotu that |
| 02:27.00 | Narissa | refering to the items in the menus, and I may be using the wrong terminology, and for that I apologize |
| 02:27.37 | *** join/#kde steve_ (n=steve@74-133-25-144.dhcp.insightbb.com) |
| 02:28.17 | *** join/#kde Phoozer (n=phoozer@jinx.akiraweb.com) |
| 02:28.27 | *** part/#kde Narissa (n=nobody@h-66-134-134-142.phlapafg.covad.net) |
| 02:28.32 | *** join/#kde Narissa (n=nobody@h-66-134-134-142.phlapafg.covad.net) |
| 02:28.35 | *** join/#kde rami__ (n=rami@87.109.29.64) |
| 02:28.51 | *** part/#kde Narissa (n=nobody@h-66-134-134-142.phlapafg.covad.net) |
| 02:33.33 | *** join/#kde zak (n=zak@c-68-60-71-202.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) |
| 02:34.08 | *** join/#kde emet (n=stephani@unaffiliated/emet) |
| 02:34.21 | zak | is KDE 4 out for windows yet? |
| 02:34.49 | benJIman | zak: I believe you can build it yourself, I don't believe there are binaries. |
| 02:35.26 | zak | ah alright, thanks |
| 02:35.52 | *** join/#kde defense|twin (n=jepz@pD9EE69A9.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 02:36.07 | *** join/#kde Phoozer (n=phoozer@jinx.akiraweb.com) |
| 02:42.32 | *** join/#kde DaSkreech_ (n=chatzill@72.252.29.192) |
| 02:45.34 | *** join/#kde aidencade (n=aidencad@d193-20-40.home3.cgocable.net) |
| 02:47.12 | *** part/#kde aidencade (n=aidencad@d193-20-40.home3.cgocable.net) |
| 02:47.55 | *** join/#kde Jucato (n=jucato@ubuntu/member/Jucato) |
| 02:49.36 | *** join/#kde earl_ (n=earl@pool-71-121-190-146.sttlwa.dsl-w.verizon.net) |
| 02:50.54 | *** join/#kde Phoozer (n=phoozer@jinx.akiraweb.com) |
| 02:51.55 | *** join/#kde Phoozer (n=phoozer@jinx.akiraweb.com) |
| 02:52.42 | *** join/#kde AmyRose (n=djb@unaffiliated/amyrose) |
| 02:53.46 | *** join/#kde troy_ (n=troy@wnpgmb014sw-ad02-233-90.dynamic.mts.net) |
| 02:58.03 | *** join/#kde Qrawl (n=qrawl@71-220-206-103.eugn.qwest.net) |
| 02:59.49 | *** join/#kde duns_s (n=duns_s@mnhm-590e013f.pool.einsundeins.de) |
| 03:00.04 | MurielGodoi | Hi, in my laptop the memory usage by glx daemon always increases. When I start kde4 it is using around 50Mb after some hours 1,2Gb!! Had any1 noticed that behavior? |
| 03:00.45 | *** join/#kde johnny69 (n=Johnny@c-98-193-205-67.hsd1.tn.comcast.net) |
| 03:01.19 | MurielGodoi | add info: Kubuntu 7.10 / KDE 4.0.0 / NVidia Geforce Go 7600 proprietary drivers |
| 03:02.48 | *** join/#kde Fishbones1 (n=Fishbone@pool-71-243-156-213.buff.east.verizon.net) |
| 03:02.51 | Fishbones1 | I need help: |
| 03:03.03 | Fishbones1 | error in locking authority file /home/fishbones/.Xauthority |
| 03:03.32 | *** join/#kde Phoozer (n=phoozer@75.126.185.243) |
| 03:04.02 | *** join/#kde k1lumin4t1 (i=sortadi@unaffiliated/k1lumin4t1) |
| 03:05.26 | Fishbones1 | ...help? |
| 03:05.32 | *** join/#kde _czessi (n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-005-076.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 03:06.23 | *** part/#kde KyleS-home (n=kyle@c-76-31-117-45.hsd1.tx.comcast.net) |
| 03:07.08 | MurielGodoi | Fishbones1: Seems like no1 is available now, try again after some time |
| 03:09.25 | *** join/#kde Zarin (n=cr@124-169-253-135.dyn.iinet.net.au) |
| 03:13.04 | *** join/#kde vorian (n=steve@ubuntu/member/pdpc.supporter.active.Vorian) |
| 03:18.32 | *** join/#kde edellingham (n=edelling@c-24-14-236-227.hsd1.il.comcast.net) |
| 03:19.50 | *** join/#kde Prisoner2600 (n=kevin@89-125-26-55.dhcp-ripwave.irishbroadband.ie) |
| 03:20.27 | Prisoner2600 | ha |
| 03:21.09 | *** join/#kde ElRober (n=ElRober@153.Red-81-38-112.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 03:21.22 | *** join/#kde KDElegant (n=kevin@cpe-24-209-63-138.neo.res.rr.com) |
| 03:21.37 | Prisoner2600 | hello all |
| 03:21.46 | Prisoner2600 | anybody not sleep yet? |
| 03:22.34 | *** join/#kde sabayonlive-2747 (n=sabayonu@189-29-214-90-nd.cpe.vivax.com.br) |
| 03:22.45 | *** part/#kde Prisoner2600 (n=kevin@89-125-26-55.dhcp-ripwave.irishbroadband.ie) |
| 03:23.22 | *** join/#kde MurielGodoi (n=msgodoi@201-43-160-30.dsl.telesp.net.br) |
| 03:25.37 | *** join/#kde AssociateX (n=HellBoun@67.60.244.195) |
| 03:26.45 | *** join/#kde whesley (n=whesley@200-140-26-191.cpece705.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) |
| 03:27.18 | *** part/#kde whesley (n=whesley@200-140-26-191.cpece705.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) |
| 03:27.24 | *** join/#kde Chaosguard (n=Chaosgua@p57B56104.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 03:29.23 | *** join/#kde smithjd_ (n=smithjd@h64-42-209-33.gtconnect.net) |
| 03:29.50 | *** part/#kde aroedl (n=aroedl@brln-4db95bd0.pool.einsundeins.de) |
| 03:30.27 | *** join/#kde blueTUX (n=kevin@cpe-24-209-63-138.neo.res.rr.com) |
| 03:31.57 | *** join/#kde whesley (n=whesley@200-140-89-146.cpece705.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) |
| 03:32.19 | *** part/#kde whesley (n=whesley@200-140-89-146.cpece705.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) |
| 03:35.37 | oneforall | is it enable composite in the xorg.conf for transperancy? and need 3d ? |
| 03:36.14 | *** join/#kde Ironnads (n=Ironnads@host86-135-81-163.range86-135.btcentralplus.com) |
| 03:39.06 | *** join/#kde melby (n=melby@85.204.186.179) |
| 03:41.20 | *** join/#kde tlmarker (n=tlmarker@12-218-235-85.client.mchsi.com) |
| 03:45.18 | *** join/#kde danf_1979 (n=daniel@pc-113-78-104-200.cm.vtr.net) |
| 03:48.24 | *** join/#kde PolitikerALT (n=Politike@vie-078-142-129-055.dsl.sil.at) |
| 03:49.20 | tlmarker | can anyone help me with my KDE4 hanging? |
| 03:50.55 | *** join/#kde illogic-al (n=kdetest@konversation/user/illogic-al) |
| 03:51.26 | illogic-al | woot. age. |
| 03:51.32 | illogic-al | kde 4.0.0. |
| 03:51.51 | illogic-al | with default menu setup. I win! |
| 03:52.26 | tlmarker | what makes KDE4 hang? |
| 03:52.41 | *** join/#kde smacnay (n=smacnay@bas3-kitchener06-1096642068.dsl.bell.ca) |
| 03:53.22 | smacnay | Hi folks, I am trying out kde for the first time in years. Can someone recommend a good irc app for kde (I use Debian testing). |
| 03:54.10 | *** join/#kde flake (n=rmcdanie@6532142hfc81.tampabay.res.rr.com) |
| 03:54.31 | illogic-al | pidgin. |
| 03:54.48 | illogic-al | Did I say that out loud? |
| 03:54.51 | smacnay | isn't pidgn a gnome/gtk app? |
| 03:55.02 | *** join/#kde Starwatcher (n=David@67-54-255-83.cust.wildblue.net) |
| 03:55.15 | *** join/#kde flaccid (n=flaccid@123-243-80-114.tpgi.com.au) |
| 03:56.00 | flaccid | question guys, is there a way to like right click a folder in konqi or dolph3n and search that folder, say for all files, so i can just copy all the results to clipboard and paste the files somewhere? |
| 03:56.40 | flaccid | ah ctrl+f. it would nice if that was in a right click menu |
| 03:56.55 | crazy | smacnay: konversation , kopete |
| 03:57.53 | *** join/#kde letto (n=letto@86.120.69.202) |
| 03:58.46 | flaccid | in gwenview, is there a way to get a delete button instead of having to go to file menu? |
| 03:59.36 | smacnay | crazy: thanks |
| 03:59.44 | *** join/#kde ovis (n=deadly1@78-61-196-158.ip.zebra.lt) |
| 04:00.00 | *** join/#kde Zeek (n=isaac@host-209-228-220-24.midco.net) |
| 04:00.19 | tlmarker | what would make KDE$ hang? |
| 04:00.59 | *** join/#kde s0nic__ (n=s0nic@p54A3276C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 04:01.36 | deadly1 | is it possible to upgrade KDE 3.5.7 to KDE 4? |
| 04:02.08 | deadly1 | on sabayon |
| 04:03.44 | *** join/#kde sbdsr (n=sbdsr@cpe-76-170-5-47.socal.res.rr.com) |
| 04:04.30 | AssociateX | deadly1, are you on sabayon and if yes, how do you like it compared to gentoo? |
| 04:05.37 | *** part/#kde tlmarker (n=tlmarker@12-218-235-85.client.mchsi.com) |
| 04:05.53 | *** join/#kde amon_ (n=amon@pD9FF7BCF.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 04:05.56 | *** join/#kde illogic-al (n=kdetest@konversation/user/illogic-al) |
| 04:07.18 | *** join/#kde phoenixz (n=phoenixz@189.177.30.109) |
| 04:07.23 | *** join/#kde netuser (n=netuser@101.88.50.60.cbj04-home.tm.net.my) |
| 04:09.33 | illogic-al | I have no sound in kde4 |
| 04:09.52 | illogic-al | point oh point oh. |
| 04:10.11 | illogic-al | would anyone be able to tell me why this is? |
| 04:10.26 | *** join/#kde human_blip (n=mike@116.193.207.82) |
| 04:10.32 | *** join/#kde samuel (n=samuel@S01060050bae5ab14.wp.shawcable.net) |
| 04:11.16 | Chani | illogic-al: could be a dozen different things :/ |
| 04:11.32 | AssociateX | illogic-al, how did you install kde4? |
| 04:12.04 | illogic-al | from the source |
| 04:12.13 | Chani | kde4 has phonon, but a lot of apps still use arts, and others use xine, and phonon uses xine, but some people (like me) have a buggy version of xine that causes a bunch of problems,. and then there's all the *other* layers at which sound can break... |
| 04:12.16 | illogic-al | Chani: start with one :-) |
| 04:12.26 | AssociateX | ok, I'm going to look into that, I don't have it installed yet |
| 04:12.34 | illogic-al | Chani: running juk from trunk. but no sounds play at all. |
| 04:12.40 | Chani | poor juk |
| 04:12.43 | illogic-al | also no startup sound at login |
| 04:13.12 | illogic-al | when I compiled on ubuntu it worked. but i compiled 4.0 from trunk. |
| 04:13.12 | Chani | illogic-al: startup sounds are phonon. juk is neglected; I can usually get it to play after a few tries. I think it uses xine. |
| 04:13.20 | illogic-al | now i have 4.0.0 proper installed. |
| 04:13.30 | Chani | you downgraded? |
| 04:13.32 | Chani | heh |
| 04:13.40 | illogic-al | heheh. you could say so. |
| 04:14.03 | illogic-al | I want to see what bugs are in 4.0. write 'em down, and then see if they are in branch. |
| 04:14.11 | illogic-al | and obviously report if not. |
| 04:14.19 | Chani | I find that minimising and restoring windows, or switching desktops, sometimes jogs the sound stuff back into action |
| 04:14.37 | Chani | it's all a bunch of voodoo to me; I never realy understand my sound problems |
| 04:14.40 | *** join/#kde MeW_ (n=dirigean@unaffiliated/mew/x-344925) |
| 04:14.51 | *** join/#kde peremen (i=peremen@121.144.78.22) |
| 04:19.42 | *** join/#kde illogic-al (n=kdetest@konversation/user/illogic-al) |
| 04:20.04 | illogic-al | Chani: got sound. i didn't have access to the audio group. |
| 04:20.14 | Chani | ehehe :) |
| 04:20.30 | Chani | like I said.. so many things that can cause sound trouble... |
| 04:20.38 | illogic-al | who feels retarded? that right, i do, i do! |
| 04:20.49 | Chani | lol |
| 04:20.53 | *** join/#kde jrick (n=joshua@c-67-177-142-45.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) |
| 04:21.20 | Chani | hey, one time I spent about 2 hours trying to figure out why my friend's computer had sound in linux but not windows: it turned out he had two sound cards in hte damn thing |
| 04:21.21 | illogic-al | now i can listen to alicia keys in all her acoustic glory. |
| 04:21.40 | jrick | I am having trouble changing my wallpaper in KDE 4.0. I logged in and it was completely white, and no matter what I do, I am unable to change it. Any help? |
| 04:21.44 | *** join/#kde saint (n=saint@203.166.60.194) |
| 04:22.09 | illogic-al | jrick: did you try right-clicking on the desktop and changing the wallpaper there? |
| 04:22.23 | jrick | illogic-al: yep, tried to change it and apply it, nothing happened |
| 04:22.42 | illogic-al | jrick: turn off kwin's desktop effects and try again. |
| 04:22.49 | jrick | they are off |
| 04:23.06 | illogic-al | hum. that's curious. |
| 04:23.43 | *** join/#kde blueTUX (n=kevin@cpe-24-209-63-138.neo.res.rr.com) |
| 04:24.52 | *** join/#kde wftl (n=mgagne@CPE00045a5aa82b-CM00159a417d3c.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) |
| 04:25.07 | *** join/#kde CarLuva (n=carluva@66.185.74.95) |
| 04:27.00 | wftl | Hello. Is there a KDE 4 keyboard mapping program? So that I can remap the extra function keys. |
| 04:27.15 | *** join/#kde argonl (i=beezle@bas11-toronto12-1088915673.dsl.bell.ca) |
| 04:27.40 | jrick | no luck when I force quit plasma (<ctrl><alt><esc> + click desktop) and restart it with krunner |
| 04:28.23 | illogic-al | not even after you log out and in again |
| 04:28.36 | jrick | illogic-al: i'll try that now |
| 04:30.38 | DaSkreech | eyeeye!!! |
| 04:31.41 | *** join/#kde jrick (n=joshua@c-67-177-142-45.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) |
| 04:32.14 | jrick | illogic-al: nope, not after logging out, and i tried again after locking the desktop, and that didn't do it. Even restarted x, and nothing. |
| 04:34.39 | *** join/#kde manwich (n=ian@c-71-193-142-12.hsd1.or.comcast.net) |
| 04:35.29 | *** join/#kde vladc (n=vlad@129.109.17.42) |
| 04:35.32 | jrick | it seems to be a problem specific with the KDE i'm using. I got the i686 packages from the [kdemod-testing] repo for archlinux. Here is one of the known issues: |
| 04:35.34 | jrick | known issues: |
| 04:35.34 | jrick | plasma doesnt set the background on startup and you only see a white background. To solve this, just reconfigure the background image. |
| 04:35.48 | jrick | except that is not working for me |
| 04:38.35 | jrick | icons seem to work, they even reallign themselves with the options in the menu. |
| 04:38.54 | jrick | and all my plasmoids are working properly, just as I had left them the last time I logged out. |
| 04:41.13 | DaSkreech | jrick: as I recall that should be sorted in trunk |
| 04:42.10 | jrick | DaSkreech: i'm not familiar with that, i've never really had to look at the insides of kde |
| 04:42.29 | jrick | yes, I know, it's about time :P |
| 04:42.53 | DaSkreech | jrick: It should be fixed in your part of the universe in a month :) |
| 04:42.53 | jrick | OMG it changed!!! |
| 04:43.08 | jrick | yes, it's working now |
| 04:43.12 | jrick | strange..... :/ |
| 04:43.42 | jrick | looks like a killall plasma did the trick... |
| 04:45.09 | jrick | DaSkreech: are you referring to 4.0.1? will it take that long? |
| 04:45.22 | DaSkreech | yeah |
| 04:48.08 | *** join/#kde rogue_koder (n=rogue_ko@72.252.110.95) |
| 04:48.40 | *** join/#kde sabayonlive-4318 (n=sabayonu@125.37.174.151) |
| 04:49.43 | linoob | any idea when kde4 will be able to generally replace kde3? |
| 04:54.25 | *** join/#kde Raging_Hog (n=Raging_H@natti.edita.fi) |
| 04:54.33 | *** join/#kde PaulyWauly (n=PaulyWau@65.5.135.75) |
| 04:54.56 | *** join/#kde bluelightning (n=blueligh@122-57-164-189.jetstream.xtra.co.nz) |
| 04:55.09 | *** part/#kde PaulyWauly (n=PaulyWau@65.5.135.75) |
| 04:58.43 | *** join/#kde Sleepwalker (i=Marcelo@189.6.242.162) |
| 04:58.48 | *** join/#kde PaulyWauly (n=PaulyWau@65.5.135.75) |
| 04:59.07 | *** part/#kde PaulyWauly (n=PaulyWau@65.5.135.75) |
| 04:59.15 | Sleepwalker | i wanna the MacBook Air!!!!!! |
| 05:00.24 | DaSkreech | linoob: When you decide that Hey I should really use KDE4 instead of KDE3 |
| 05:01.00 | linoob | DaSkreech: so... now? cause i'm really itching to use kde4 :) |
| 05:01.19 | DaSkreech | linoob: have you tried it? |
| 05:02.22 | *** join/#kde p0z3r (n=ryann@user-0c932k7.cable.mindspring.com) |
| 05:02.33 | linoob | DaSkreech: no, not really, all those "its a tech preview release" review and the lack of time to fiddle :) |
| 05:02.36 | *** part/#kde p0z3r (n=ryann@user-0c932k7.cable.mindspring.com) |
| 05:05.09 | DaSkreech | linoob: lack of time to fiddle will do that |
| 05:05.34 | linoob | do what? |
| 05:06.32 | DaSkreech | stop you from being KDE3 -> KDE4 |
| 05:07.21 | linoob | yeah :( |
| 05:07.33 | *** join/#kde g2g591 (n=kyle@fc-dyn-dsl-216.248.103.177.wctatel.net) |
| 05:07.40 | *** join/#kde taupter_ (n=Taupter@201.9.66.138) |
| 05:08.19 | linoob | so maybe i should change the question to "any idea when i can (package manager) install kde4 and be able to use it for common tasks" |
| 05:08.42 | andresj | linoob, kubuntu/ubuntu/xubuntu already has pkgs |
| 05:08.53 | andresj | using them right now :) |
| 05:09.14 | andresj | i think opensuse has them, too. kde.org should have more info |
| 05:09.24 | linoob | andresj: cool, any comments on it? |
| 05:09.29 | linoob | kde4 i mean |
| 05:10.15 | andresj | nice, mostly stable, but with several regressions. and by regressions i mean features lacking now that were available on the last 3.5 release |
| 05:10.30 | DaSkreech | linoob: If you have workload then wait for a bit |
| 05:10.51 | andresj | linoob, like having different wallpapers for different desktops. |
| 05:10.52 | linoob | DaSkreech: good idea :) |
| 05:11.30 | linoob | andresj: ah, so nothing critical is missing then might give it a try over the weekends when the workflow is less :) |
| 05:11.32 | andresj | I'll definetly wait for 4.2 to recommend KDE4 to anybody outside kde-specific channels |
| 05:11.42 | andresj | :) |
| 05:11.59 | linoob | i can keep 3.5 and 4 at the same time right? |
| 05:12.06 | DaSkreech | andresj: Wow. Little faith |
| 05:12.26 | andresj | what do you mean, DaSkreech? |
| 05:12.45 | linoob | until 4.2? that would be around 2 years? |
| 05:12.46 | DaSkreech | that's over a year away |
| 05:12.52 | DaSkreech | about a year |
| 05:12.56 | andresj | I mean, KDE4 is cool and all, but it's still not complete. |
| 05:13.06 | g2g591 | trunk is pretty good, a few blocker bugs here and there (found at 7 am, fixed by 3:30 PM) . I'd say 4.1 will be on par for 3.5 features, or at least very close |
| 05:13.09 | DaSkreech | andresj: no faith in 4.1? |
| 05:13.14 | andresj | Well if it'll take a year, then it'll probably be 4.1, then. |
| 05:14.08 | *** join/#kde bjantscher (n=bjantsch@M2541P001.adsl.highway.telekom.at) |
| 05:14.38 | andresj | I said 4.2 just as an estimate. I don't know how long will it take for KDE4 to become what I think is a complete product. (which needs Amarok and KOffice). But I trust it'll not be long. |
| 05:14.39 | DaSkreech | KDEPIM should be there for 4.1 |
| 05:14.47 | DaSkreech | Konversation is whenever |
| 05:14.52 | *** join/#kde xoqa (n=h@unaffiliated/hydan) |
| 05:15.15 | g2g591 | Today I had to contaminate my 4.x trunk install with 3.5x kdelibs for konversation, I can't live without it. |
| 05:15.25 | andresj | oh... so kdepim was _not_ supposed to be available for kde4... I was blaming the kubuntu packagers for not having pkgs available... |
| 05:15.42 | andresj | g2g591, I can't either. |
| 05:16.10 | andresj | *kde4.0.0 I mean |
| 05:16.40 | g2g591 | andresj:Kubuntu packagers mostly arn't responsible for bugs, except for that kdm4 bug. I use kde4-kdm from a Gentoo overlay just fine |
| 05:17.34 | g2g591 | andresj: of course, I am using the "live" ebuilds, so I get all bugfixes/changes/breakages as the devs make them |
| 05:17.43 | DaSkreech | g2g591: irssi? |
| 05:18.03 | DaSkreech | Which KDM4 bug? |
| 05:18.25 | andresj | g2g591, I wasn't talking about bugs, I was talking about program missing. How do you use Gentoo from Kubuntu? |
| 05:18.44 | g2g591 | andresj: dualboot |
| 05:18.49 | g2g591 | andresj: and chroot |
| 05:19.20 | andresj | DaSkreech: kdm-kde4 won't login to KDE4 when you tell it to, it will open an xterm instead. (though I don't know if that;'s the bug g2g591 was referring to) |
| 05:19.30 | *** part/#kde Sleepwalker (i=Marcelo@189.6.242.162) |
| 05:19.44 | g2g591 | andresj, daSkreech , yep, that bug |
| 05:20.33 | andresj | wow, kubuntu pkgs are already in version 4.0.0-0ubuntu6 |
| 05:21.03 | g2g591 | andresj: so , do you think that ubuntu7 will have the fix for the kdm bug? |
| 05:21.34 | andresj | i don't know. maybe ubuntu6 already has it... i'm installing it right now :) |
| 05:22.07 | Onyx | does anyone here know where amarok keeps its default icon? |
| 05:22.07 | g2g591 | andresj: my about kde says 4.00.80 (KDE 4.0.80 >= 20080104) |
| 05:22.48 | g2g591 | andresj: updated from trunk a few minutes ago |
| 05:24.41 | *** join/#kde nitiniu (n=mirshafi@84-217-17-20.tn.glocalnet.net) |
| 05:25.30 | *** join/#kde tlmarker (n=tlmarker@12-218-235-85.client.mchsi.com) |
| 05:27.36 | *** part/#kde g2g591 (n=kyle@fc-dyn-dsl-216.248.103.177.wctatel.net) |
| 05:28.32 | *** join/#kde andresj (n=andres@c-67-188-106-51.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 05:28.35 | tlmarker | Can anyone help me with a LiveCD Question? |
| 05:29.34 | andresj | computer crashed (1st time in months...). did i miss anything? |
| 05:30.11 | andresj | tlmarker: no need to ask to ask. just ask the question. |
| 05:32.38 | tlmarker | I am trying to get KDE4 working by installing it along side KDE3. It seems to be hanging everytime. I downloaded the Kubuntu 7.10 LiveCD with KDE4 and everything worked good. If I do a fresh install from this LiveCD, will everything work the same as it does on the LiveCD. |
| 05:38.22 | *** join/#kde DoctorPepper (n=kingsize@modemcable010.97-131-66.mc.videotron.ca) |
| 05:38.38 | *** join/#kde saint (n=saint@203.166.60.194) |
| 05:39.35 | *** part/#kde tlmarker (n=tlmarker@12-218-235-85.client.mchsi.com) |
| 05:41.01 | *** join/#kde cleary (n=eee-user@ppp113-50.static.internode.on.net) |
| 05:41.12 | cleary | hi |
| 05:41.26 | cleary | I'm sure it's a common question, but google has yielded nothing - |
| 05:41.38 | cleary | how can I configure the panel in kde 4.0? |
| 05:42.05 | Jucato | currently, afaik, you can't |
| 05:42.53 | Jucato | cleary: see the FAQ linked in the topic |
| 05:43.04 | Jucato | (KDE 4.0 FAQ) |
| 05:44.38 | cleary | Jucato: thanks - looking... |
| 05:45.02 | DoctorPepper | need some help , how can restore the titlebars on kde4 , i am actually using an account which have user under kde3.5 |
| 05:45.52 | DoctorPepper | by the way in this account I cant resize the windows. |
| 05:46.01 | andresj | clearly, but it is probably possible to mess with the configuration files... |
| 05:46.51 | andresj | DoctorPepper, try ``kwin-kde4 &`` in a konsole/xterm |
| 05:47.24 | Jucato | *if* he's using Kubuntu... |
| 05:47.28 | cleary | Jucato: ok, sorted (in the emergency 4.0.0 faq) |
| 05:47.36 | Jucato | and he has to be in the KDE 4 session |
| 05:47.48 | Jucato | (a better command is "kwin --replace") |
| 05:48.01 | andresj | Jucato: you'r right :) |
| 05:48.19 | cleary | I'm running debian sid + kde 4.0.0 on an asus eee pc (800x480res screen) |
| 05:48.28 | Jucato | heh brave sould :) |
| 05:48.30 | Jucato | soul* |
| 05:48.34 | cleary | aseigo mentioned a small screen option in his blog |
| 05:48.37 | DoctorPepper | ok thanks ill try this and comeback |
| 05:48.55 | cleary | do you know a way to initiate this mode manually? |
| 05:49.26 | cleary | brave, well... this is a test machine only ;) |
| 05:49.40 | Jucato | is that the 8GB model? |
| 05:49.46 | cleary | 4GB |
| 05:50.03 | cleary | but I'm booting off an 8GB SD Card |
| 05:50.09 | Jucato | ah |
| 05:50.11 | Jucato | funky :) |
| 05:50.18 | cleary | they're great |
| 05:50.32 | cleary | bluetooth pairing with my phone == 3g modem |
| 05:50.42 | cleary | ultra portable |
| 05:50.54 | Jucato | heh I'm waiting for the 8GB version before I make a decision... |
| 05:51.11 | cleary | I'd recommend waiting on the 10" scren too |
| 05:51.15 | Jucato | but probably by then Everex Cloudbook might be out... and that would be a more interesting option :) |
| 05:51.28 | cleary | the 7" has a large amount of bezel round the edge |
| 05:51.31 | Jucato | yep |
| 05:52.07 | aseigo | cleary: small screen? |
| 05:52.14 | Jucato | hi aseigo! :) |
| 05:52.18 | cleary | hi aseigo - yep 800x480 7" |
| 05:52.31 | cleary | small-ish ;) |
| 05:52.35 | Jucato | cleary: I think he meant this: [13:48] <cleary> aseigo mentioned a small screen option in his blog |
| 05:52.57 | Jucato | er.. I think he was asking about your statement ^^^ |
| 05:53.03 | cleary | aseigo: yeah, can't remember the entry but it was re mobile phone screens |
| 05:54.04 | cleary | http://aseigo.blogspot.com/2007/11/love-is-what-i-got.html |
| 05:54.36 | cleary | no that's not it |
| 05:54.39 | cleary | sorry - sec |
| 05:54.47 | *** join/#kde SanityIO (i=SanityIO@217.116.60.84) |
| 05:55.34 | aseigo | cleary: heh. ah, plasma. yes |
| 05:55.43 | aseigo | cleary: it's designed to support small form factor devices indeed |
| 05:56.02 | cleary | man it was a while ago, I think there were some spurious google results making fake memories for me |
| 05:56.48 | *** join/#kde DLange (n=dlange@p57A32BDB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 05:57.40 | *** join/#kde bill (n=bill@69-84-123-066-dhcp.mia.fl.atlanticbb.net) |
| 05:58.16 | *** join/#kde _smithjd (n=smithjd@h64-42-209-33.gtconnect.net) |
| 05:58.28 | cleary | aseigo: is there a way to manually invoke it? Or am I getting a little ahead of things |
| 05:59.20 | *** join/#kde Sleepwalker (i=Marcelo@189.6.242.162) |
| 05:59.42 | cleary | as an aside - it runs beautifully on this thing |
| 05:59.55 | cleary | fast enough, fonts are awesome etc |
| 06:00.10 | cleary | bling effects work, albeit at a fairly low framerate |
| 06:00.32 | *** join/#kde MeW_ (n=dirigean@unaffiliated/mew/x-344925) |
| 06:01.35 | aseigo | cleary: a bit ahead, yes... we've spent all our time in 4.0 doing two things: |
| 06:01.53 | aseigo | cleary: a) getting the foundations laid in libplasma and b) the traditional desktop component |
| 06:02.00 | aseigo | er, component_s_ |
| 06:02.26 | aseigo | but things are built to scale. already you can shrink nearly any plasmoid down to a little bitty square |
| 06:02.33 | aseigo | and they still render as they should |
| 06:02.34 | *** join/#kde Aceler (n=aceler@aceler.adsl.kis.ru) |
| 06:02.51 | aseigo | 4.1 is about the non-traditional components and robustifying libplasma |
| 06:03.24 | cleary | robustifying eh? |
| 06:03.38 | *** join/#kde drbob (n=drbob@ip110-32-209-87.adsl2.versatel.nl) |
| 06:03.45 | cleary | ok that's cool |
| 06:04.14 | *** join/#kde arzhel (n=arzhel@ANantes-158-1-113-232.w90-49.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 06:04.21 | aseigo | yeah, there are a number of loose ends that are showing themselves as people pound on plasma and write their own plasmoids |
| 06:04.30 | aseigo | fortunately nothing deep, it's mostly surface level issues |
| 06:04.32 | cleary | in the spirit of making words up, you (the team) have done a gremarvavuckingtastic job |
| 06:04.32 | aseigo | so that's good |
| 06:04.41 | aseigo | haha.. thankadoodlydoo |
| 06:04.42 | aseigo | ;) |
| 06:05.26 | *** join/#kde Qrawl (n=qrawl@71-220-206-103.eugn.qwest.net) |
| 06:09.40 | *** join/#kde Simkin (n=sdegabri@S010600104b6a224a.vf.shawcable.net) |
| 06:13.48 | *** join/#kde hamburglar6 (n=kevin@pool-71-164-127-47.albyny.east.verizon.net) |
| 06:16.27 | *** join/#kde hamburglar6 (n=kevin@pool-71-164-127-47.albyny.east.verizon.net) |
| 06:16.40 | *** part/#kde hamburglar6 (n=kevin@pool-71-164-127-47.albyny.east.verizon.net) |
| 06:19.35 | *** join/#kde SSJ_GZ (n=SSJ@host-84-9-144-164.bulldogdsl.com) |
| 06:19.59 | cleary | thanks for your help fellas - btw aseigo I'll be catching your session at LCA2008 in a couple of weeks time, I'm hoping you can convert a rusty lazy programmer into a plasmoid hacking fiend ;) |
| 06:20.03 | cleary | later - |
| 06:20.08 | *** part/#kde cleary (n=eee-user@ppp113-50.static.internode.on.net) |
| 06:21.48 | *** join/#kde mojibake (n=frekla@tuxhacker/scientica) |
| 06:22.10 | *** join/#kde nhnFreespirit (n=nhn@amarok/developer/nhnFreespirit) |
| 06:22.56 | *** join/#kde _CitizenKane_ (n=kyle@c-76-17-239-140.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) |
| 06:24.15 | *** join/#kde plovs (n=plovs@89.221.114.175) |
| 06:25.12 | johnny69 | Link to a decent live Cd (running Kde 4) please? |
| 06:26.07 | _CitizenKane_ | johnny69, not sure what is out there but I think openSUSE has one |
| 06:26.32 | johnny69 | Well hell, I'm running Susu anyway...so I'll go with that. Thanks |
| 06:26.55 | _CitizenKane_ | johnny69, no problem |
| 06:27.00 | *** join/#kde big-ben (n=kingb@77-56-111-8.dclient.hispeed.ch) |
| 06:29.39 | _CitizenKane_ | does anyone know celeste lyn paul's irc nick? |
| 06:31.08 | *** join/#kde Q-collective (n=emil@s5593b81f.adsl.wanadoo.nl) |
| 06:40.15 | *** join/#kde ultrav1olet (n=fuck@87.226.226.210) |
| 06:40.24 | *** part/#kde ultrav1olet (n=fuck@87.226.226.210) |
| 06:41.51 | *** join/#kde ultrav1olet (n=fuck@87.226.226.210) |
| 06:42.06 | *** part/#kde ultrav1olet (n=fuck@87.226.226.210) |
| 06:42.14 | *** join/#kde drantin (i=justme@ppp3069.hakata17.bbiq.jp) |
| 06:42.16 | *** join/#kde noaXess (n=noaXess@cust.static.217-11-45-147.cybernet.ch) |
| 06:42.24 | noaXess | good morning folks... |
| 06:42.39 | *** join/#kde harmental (n=ricardo@AGrenoble-152-1-12-183.w82-122.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 06:43.06 | noaXess | if i open any application (kde app, gtk app) the window has no focus.. it will be opened in the background.. |
| 06:43.30 | noaXess | wat setting need i change that new opened windows became the first focus? |
| 06:44.26 | *** join/#kde outoflaw (n=magic@adsl-69-225-231-132.dsl.skt2ca.pacbell.net) |
| 06:47.20 | *** join/#kde nuonguy (n=nuonguy@c-24-6-175-26.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 06:51.23 | *** join/#kde tifauv (n=tifauv@ANantes-156-1-60-154.w90-12.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 06:56.04 | *** join/#kde Longfield (n=valentin@217-162-224-34.dclient.hispeed.ch) |
| 06:58.31 | *** join/#kde oneeyedelf1 (n=knic@c-71-227-234-32.hsd1.or.comcast.net) |
| 06:59.21 | *** part/#kde Sleepwalker (i=Marcelo@189.6.242.162) |
| 06:59.37 | *** join/#kde annma (n=annma@kde/annma) |
| 07:00.34 | oneeyedelf1 | I don't like the current alt tab behavior in kde 3.5.7, cycling from all current non minimized windows are regardless which one was the last used. I am wondering how to go back to the old style were it went in order of last used window |
| 07:00.42 | *** join/#kde saint (i=saint@c211-30-199-4.carlnfd3.nsw.optusnet.com.au) |
| 07:00.50 | *** join/#kde alanic (n=alanic@71-10-178-97.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) |
| 07:01.21 | *** join/#kde trapni (n=trapni@gentoo/developer/trapni) |
| 07:02.51 | *** join/#kde rand_acs (n=randacs@dsl-240-90-69.telkomadsl.co.za) |
| 07:03.16 | *** join/#kde eNTi (n=nt@85.127.149.54) |
| 07:03.58 | *** join/#kde manwich (n=ian@c-71-193-142-12.hsd1.or.comcast.net) |
| 07:05.37 | Jucato | works ok on 3.5.8 |
| 07:06.45 | oneeyedelf1 | if only I had your computer |
| 07:07.04 | *** join/#kde Rikku (n=tidus@ip72-204-87-213.fv.ks.cox.net) |
| 07:07.05 | Jucato | can't update to 3.5.8? |
| 07:07.05 | oneeyedelf1 | it works in my old computer too, so I think I can still set the setting if I know what to put in the config file |
| 07:07.30 | Jucato | what kde version is on the old computer? |
| 07:07.42 | Jucato | maybe it's only on 3.5.7 |
| 07:09.10 | *** join/#kde ehc (n=evan@wall.pacinfo.com) |
| 07:10.57 | *** join/#kde Hoki_Workin (n=GM_Mord@static77-68-2-88.live-dsl.net) |
| 07:11.13 | *** join/#kde corinth (n=mitch@netblock-208-127-21-104.dslextreme.com) |
| 07:11.22 | *** part/#kde corinth (n=mitch@netblock-208-127-21-104.dslextreme.com) |
| 07:11.54 | oneeyedelf1 | 3.5.8 |
| 07:12.11 | oneeyedelf1 | I think its because I didn't start with an old version |
| 07:14.11 | *** join/#kde Desintegr (n=desinteg@desintegr.is-a-geek.org) |
| 07:14.13 | *** join/#kde a_thing_ (n=notroot@c-98-193-50-46.hsd1.il.comcast.net) |
| 07:14.45 | Jucato | it might be a 3.5.7 bug anyway |
| 07:15.27 | *** join/#kde sabayonlive-2412 (n=sabayonu@d213-101-254-219.cust.tele2.de) |
| 07:22.12 | *** join/#kde windu (n=windu@ACaen-151-1-93-36.w86-215.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 07:23.22 | *** join/#kde Daverocks (n=me@unaffiliated/daverocks) |
| 07:24.54 | oneeyedelf1 | well I just made sure I had a full 3.5.8 and its still doing stupid ring alt tab |
| 07:25.21 | *** join/#kde kc8hfi (n=kc8hfi@75.108.92.235) |
| 07:26.28 | *** join/#kde windu_ (n=windu@ACaen-151-1-93-36.w86-215.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 07:29.32 | *** join/#kde pillar_zhang (n=mvp@218.58.59.73) |
| 07:29.40 | *** part/#kde pillar_zhang (n=mvp@218.58.59.73) |
| 07:37.57 | *** join/#kde pgquiles (n=pgquiles@62.43.226.52.static.user.ono.com) |
| 07:40.41 | *** join/#kde herve (n=herve@LPuteaux-151-42-25-105.w193-251.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 07:43.44 | *** join/#kde BlahYou (n=chris@cpe-66-27-20-57.socal.res.rr.com) |
| 07:44.19 | *** join/#kde alina (n=alina@86.122.208.234) |
| 07:44.33 | BlahYou | Can i stop kde4 from loading my desktop icons (since kde4 looks weird with icons (lol)) |
| 07:45.10 | *** join/#kde _Angelus_ (n=demon@92.251.81.35) |
| 07:45.23 | *** join/#kde lindenle (n=lindenle@209-180-248-249.hlrn.qwest.net) |
| 07:47.43 | *** join/#kde infopipe (n=infopipe@chello062178207208.8.15.tuwien.teleweb.at) |
| 07:47.52 | *** join/#kde sabayonlive-1473 (n=sabayonu@f048040006.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 07:50.23 | *** part/#kde lindenle (n=lindenle@209-180-248-249.hlrn.qwest.net) |
| 07:52.35 | Chani | BlahYou: yes |
| 07:52.46 | BlahYou | how? |
| 07:52.58 | Chani | BlahYou: right-click on the desktop, configure, uncheck the desktop icons thing. |
| 07:53.02 | *** join/#kde hlu9ouio (n=kde@90.150.235.245) |
| 07:53.09 | Chani | hopefully they'll be deleted properly |
| 07:54.27 | *** join/#kde mickeprag (n=micke@h-91-126-122-254.wholesale.rp80.se) |
| 07:54.29 | *** join/#kde |zeal| (n=kvirc@218.94.6.139) |
| 07:54.33 | |zeal| | hi |
| 07:54.54 | zealo | how can I activate a window using dcop in kde ? |
| 07:55.00 | zealo | dcop kdesktop ? |
| 07:55.47 | Chani | kde3 or kde4? |
| 07:55.56 | zealo | kde3 |
| 07:55.59 | zealo | :) |
| 07:56.00 | *** join/#kde bentob0x (n=laurent@ip-213-49-80-142.dsl.scarlet.be) |
| 07:56.13 | zealo | I heard that kde4 use dbus |
| 07:56.18 | Chani | actually, I have no idea anyways. |
| 07:56.20 | Chani | yeah. |
| 07:56.27 | Chani | kde4 also has no kdesktop |
| 07:56.30 | zealo | thanks anyway :) |
| 07:56.33 | Chani | but it's probably kwin that you'd want |
| 07:56.50 | *** join/#kde non7top (n=non7top@77.66.152.72) |
| 07:56.51 | zealo | Chani: oh, i will take a look at kwin :) |
| 07:57.01 | zealo | thx :) |
| 07:57.34 | *** join/#kde desti (n=desti@p5B019E3B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 07:57.55 | deitarion | zealo: Any specific application? |
| 07:58.29 | zealo | deitarion: kmail actually, but you know I had to let kmail main window appear first |
| 07:58.37 | *** join/#kde appelza (n=psteyn@dsl-240-173-87.telkomadsl.co.za) |
| 07:59.10 | *** join/#kde nixternal (n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.nixternal) |
| 07:59.22 | deitarion | zealo: I ask because it seems to vary a bit between application. For example, with Konqueror, `dcop konqueror-20813 konqueror-mainwindow#1 raise` looks promising. (I think 20813 is the PID) |
| 07:59.39 | *** join/#kde Botulinux (n=mike@ummagumma.cce.unipr.it) |
| 07:59.51 | deitarion | yep. |
| 08:00.19 | zealo | deitarion: you know with konqueror you can use the window-specific setting short cut |
| 08:01.11 | *** join/#kde taupter_ (n=Taupter@201.9.66.138) |
| 08:01.21 | *** join/#kde pwagner (n=pwagner@CPE0018f852e9e8-CM000e5c6fd440.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) |
| 08:01.46 | zealo | but kmail is normally iconified in the system tray |
| 08:02.00 | deitarion | zealo: I just wandered through the dcop command's output. I don't actually use that. |
| 08:03.09 | zealo | I can use one key input action to let it the main window show up, and then activate the main window, that counts to two hot keys, I wanna reduce it to one hot key press :) |
| 08:03.29 | deitarion | I'd try KMail, but I've kept it uninstalled so that, whenever I accidentally click "Send" while trying for "Save" in the context menu, I just get an instant error dialog rather than having to wait for KMail to start (Even if it's already running!?) so I can close the new message window. |
| 08:04.04 | zealo | deitarion: which distro you are using ? |
| 08:04.30 | zealo | deitarion: kde is not very stable in some distributions |
| 08:04.46 | zealo | deitarion: while stable enough for me in debian :) |
| 08:06.00 | deitarion | zealo: I run Gentoo. What I consider stable, people like the Debian maintainers consider Bleeding Edge. As such, their "unstable" branch is far too old and their "testing" branch is a mix of what I consider unstable and what I consider barely recent enough. |
| 08:07.03 | zealo | deitarion: no, unstable is Bleeding Edge, "stable" is old :) |
| 08:07.14 | zealo | testing is experimental |
| 08:08.03 | zealo | deitarion: I always follow unstable, which turns out to be more stable than kubuntu .... |
| 08:08.07 | *** join/#kde matkor (n=matkor@85.14.91.175) |
| 08:08.27 | deitarion | zealo: Both Debian and Kubuntu are too "stale" for me. |
| 08:09.13 | deitarion | What most Gentoo detractors miss about people like me is that I'd spend more time managing my own packages on Debian to mix "unstable" and "testing" than I spend configuring and debugging my Gentoo... much more. |
| 08:09.21 | *** join/#kde GNU\tresh (n=tresh@chello062178230100.10.12.vie.surfer.at) |
| 08:09.31 | zealo | deitarion: wow, you are advangard |
| 08:09.32 | *** join/#kde jli_ (n=jli@217.117.79.106) |
| 08:09.53 | deitarion | zealo: Mind repeating that last word? According to the dictionary, it's not a word. |
| 08:10.13 | zealo | advanguard |
| 08:10.30 | zealo | sorry |
| 08:10.38 | zealo | I think I mis-spell the word :) |
| 08:11.11 | deitarion | It's still not returning a result. Did you mean avant-garde? |
| 08:11.24 | zealo | yeah :) |
| 08:12.00 | zealo | but there are lots of "advanguard" in google search :D |
| 08:12.38 | zealo | I may be not as literate as you, hah |
| 08:12.44 | deitarion | Ahh. I suppose that does sort of apply. One of the big reasons I'm looking forward to KDE 4 is that I'll be able to remove a lot of my jerry-rigs. (eg. using dcop, a Python script, and KNotes to synthesize a more lightweight, low-hassle widget than SuperKaramba for KDE 3.x can provide) |
| 08:13.19 | *** join/#kde Beineri (n=Beineri@kde/binner) |
| 08:13.42 | deitarion | (They're still working on writing the KDE 4.0 ebuilds for Gentoo... and I'd rather not run SVN trunk ebuilds for anything beyond testing out upcoming features) |
| 08:14.04 | zealo | deitarion: so you are still in kde3, right |
| 08:14.28 | deitarion | zealo: At the moment... Even with KDE 4, I'll be waiting for at least 4.1 before I switch fully. |
| 08:14.40 | zealo | same here :) |
| 08:14.54 | Botulinux | hello, is normal that in okular the print preview of a pdf file shows the document source? |
| 08:15.14 | deitarion | That reminds me... I need to figure out the X11 window attributes to produce an unmanaged window that can still take input. (For an auto-saving, auto-hiding "scratchpad tray") |
| 08:15.48 | zealo | deitarion: and lots of other apps are migrating, I'd wait a "pure" kde4 environ, with all kde apps in qt4 |
| 08:15.56 | *** join/#kde hlu9ouio (n=kde@212.220.104.10) |
| 08:16.33 | *** join/#kde GionnyBoss (n=gionnybo@unaffiliated/gionnyboss) |
| 08:16.34 | deitarion | zealo: My big hope for 4.1 is that they'll have a WebKit KPart. It'd be nice to be able to finally dump Firefox for Google Reader. |
| 08:17.02 | *** join/#kde thiago (i=thiago@kde/thiago) |
| 08:17.19 | deitarion | Well, that and having true transparency for Yakuake's terminal background and Audacious media player's OSD. |
| 08:17.58 | deitarion | ...but that's more a side-effect of not wanting to do a 50/50 mix of KDE 3 and KDE 4 components with KDE 4.0.x. |
| 08:18.00 | zealo | deitarion: you know howto make yakuake remember the sessions opened last time I logged in ? |
| 08:18.12 | *** join/#kde Daverocks_ (n=me@unaffiliated/daverocks) |
| 08:18.13 | GionnyBoss | I never understand why Xchat systray icon in KDE screws up things a bit... sometimes is larger, sometimes let the other icons go all in the same line, when before they were on 2 lines... Is there a way to fix this thing, maybe a patch or something or should I wait 'till Xchat developers fix this, please? |
| 08:18.24 | deitarion | zealo: I don't think that's possible. I just use GNU Screen in a single Yakuake tab. |
| 08:19.17 | zealo | deitarion: hmm, why it not support that, I wonder, should not be difficult. |
| 08:19.35 | *** join/#kde Jejem (n=Jejem@77.196.233.11) |
| 08:19.42 | deitarion | zealo: They probably just forgot. |
| 08:19.53 | deitarion | zealo: http://bugs.kde.org/ |
| 08:20.00 | deitarion | One thing that characterizes my desktop is a lot of auto-hiding, tabbing, and keyboard shortcuts. (I even bought a Logitech G15 (first generation) so I could have a couple dozen keys that have no default meanings) |
| 08:20.06 | zealo | deitarion: I need more tabs, because I logged into several machines at the same time and each with a opened screen |
| 08:20.40 | Daverocks | GionnyBoss: don't know what your configuration is but my xchat systray icon works great in kde so it's probably not an inherent bug |
| 08:20.56 | deitarion | I'm really hoping someone will port Compiz's group-and-flip plugin to KWin 4.x soon because WM-level tabbing is one of the things I've always wanted in KDE. |
| 08:21.08 | zealo | deitarion: sexy kbd :) |
| 08:21.38 | deitarion | zealo: In case you were wondering, the first-generation G15 is the one with the blue lighting rather than the ugly orange. |
| 08:21.54 | *** join/#kde Pensa`MIA (n=pensacol@wlan-196064.nbw.tue.nl) |
| 08:21.55 | GionnyBoss | Daverocks: sometimes behaves strangely, I don't know why. I did my question to know if someone else has got this problem, too.... Thanks for your answer. |
| 08:21.58 | deitarion | (The second-generation also has only one third as many extra keys) |
| 08:22.05 | zealo | deitarion: I never used G15 or Gxx or sth similar :D |
| 08:22.26 | zealo | deitarion: wow, sounds "lots" of extra keys |
| 08:22.28 | *** join/#kde teatime (n=jens@213-64-148-31-no39.tbcn.telia.com) |
| 08:22.47 | Daverocks | GionnyBoss: what distro are you on? |
| 08:22.58 | deitarion | zealo: 18 in three 6-key groups on the left, four macro-bank-switch buttons that I've reprogrammed, and the multimedia keys. |
| 08:23.04 | zealo | deitarion: I have all my commonly used apps bind to hot keys, which means I seldom need to take a look at task bar :D |
| 08:23.28 | *** join/#kde atomik (n=atomik@121.244-240-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) |
| 08:23.45 | deitarion | zealo: I'm still switching over to hotkeys from auto-hide panels. Here's a screenshot... |
| 08:23.47 | *** join/#kde hw (n=hw@p578b3905.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 08:23.52 | *** join/#kde sebbar (n=sebbar@p5B15576A.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 08:24.01 | zealo | deitarion: the kbd is for house wifes who cannot use ctrl or alt ....? hah |
| 08:24.05 | GionnyBoss | Daverocks: Fedora 8... but I see these problems on Fedora 7, too, and in fact it was worse in Fedora 7. Now it is pretty decent, I just don't know why, since I started Xchat, my icons went all on the same line when before they were on 2 lines. I did not change panel size. |
| 08:24.08 | deitarion | zealo: http://ssokolow.deviantart.com/art/My-KDE-desktop-explained-56354585 |
| 08:24.28 | GionnyBoss | I tried to change the size and restore it as it was, but nothing changed... xchat icon looks like a little bit bigger |
| 08:25.20 | *** join/#kde GNU\colossus (n=colo@85.127.156.107) |
| 08:25.40 | GionnyBoss | this is not a bad problem... I just don't understand why it happens. I guess that xchat systray icon does not follow systray standards, maybe... or it is tested just in gnome, I don't know |
| 08:25.46 | *** join/#kde habdel (n=tiger@pptp-212-201-73-97.pptp.stw-bonn.de) |
| 08:25.59 | zealo | deitarion: wow, huge screen, what is the size of your LCD ? |
| 08:26.21 | GionnyBoss | on Fedora 7 sometimes xchat systray icon was double size compared to other icons there. |
| 08:26.22 | *** join/#kde jiyuu (n=nano@22.214.100-84.rev.gaoland.net) |
| 08:26.36 | deitarion | zealo: A pair of 1280x1024 19" LCD panels using nVidia TwinView to offload the desktop-stitching to the GPU. |
| 08:26.41 | GionnyBoss | now it was a lot of time that I did not use xchat, in fact, but looks like that something strange already happens :P |
| 08:27.31 | zealo | deitarion: cool, I am using thinkpad T43, 14.1" of size :( |
| 08:27.59 | zealo | deitarion: which means I have no desktop, because I have all my apps main window maximised |
| 08:28.02 | deitarion | I never use laptops. Too limited. For example, I could never fit a terabyte of hard drive space into them. |
| 08:28.24 | deitarion | I normally keep my apps maximized... I just have two maximized apps per virtual desktop. |
| 08:29.07 | zealo | deitarion: WoW, TG hards, what you use that for ? |
| 08:29.12 | zealo | hard disks |
| 08:29.14 | zealo | sorry |
| 08:29.39 | *** join/#kde jamesots (n=james@85.92.165.78) |
| 08:29.48 | deitarion | zealo: Primarily for organizing things before burning them to DVD+R. I download a lot of anime, TV, manga, music, games, movies, etc. |
| 08:29.52 | zealo | deitarion: I mean that's sooo big, I use 80G, and half of that is empty ! |
| 08:30.11 | deitarion | I've got about 60GB just in music, though 30GB of that is unsorted. |
| 08:30.11 | *** join/#kde simon__ (n=simon@host86-143-175-126.range86-143.btcentralplus.com) |
| 08:30.19 | Chani | GionnyBoss: kde3 or kde4? |
| 08:30.21 | zealo | deitarion: no wonder, move collector.....hah |
| 08:30.29 | zealo | movie |
| 08:30.49 | GionnyBoss | Chani: kde3 |
| 08:30.54 | Chani | GionnyBoss: gtk programs have a couple of systray issues |
| 08:31.01 | Chani | but I didn;t think any showed up in kde3 |
| 08:31.02 | zealo | deitarion: God, 60GB music, you cannot listen all them out of your life ! |
| 08:31.14 | zealo | OMG |
| 08:31.43 | deitarion | zealo: I've got somewhere around 7 terabytes of stuff on DVD+R so far. I'm trying to collect every piece of media I've ever watched, read, or listened to. |
| 08:32.03 | zealo | deitarion: oooh |
| 08:32.10 | GionnyBoss | Chani: yes, I noticed that. SELinux troubleshooter has worse issues in the systray for example. Anyways, in #xchat they told me that future version will include a workaroud for this |
| 08:32.20 | *** part/#kde simon__ (n=simon@host86-143-175-126.range86-143.btcentralplus.com) |
| 08:32.32 | zealo | deitarion: orz !! |
| 08:32.48 | zealo | Orz |
| 08:32.59 | *** join/#kde simon74 (n=simon@host86-143-175-126.range86-143.btcentralplus.com) |
| 08:33.04 | deitarion | zealo: And, unless I messed up my math, 60GB of music in 128kbit MP3 (which is smaller than what I use) is only 42 days of non-stop audio. |
| 08:33.10 | *** join/#kde a__thing (n=notroot@c-98-193-50-46.hsd1.il.comcast.net) |
| 08:33.38 | deitarion | I tend to use 192kbit MP3s or equivalent, so it'd be even less play time for the same amount of space. |
| 08:33.56 | zealo | deitarion: but you will keep on forgetting which one you have heard before |
| 08:34.43 | deitarion | zealo: That's why I'm working on finding the time to adapt the IMMS plugin for Audacious Media Player. So the computer can guess my tastes and automatically shuffle up the kind of music I'm feeling like. |
| 08:34.47 | peterbrett | deitarion: I get very good results with lame's standard VBR setting |
| 08:34.52 | zealo | deitarion: I mean for your life, whenever you want to listen, just pick one, that's new to you |
| 08:35.14 | *** join/#kde polz (n=polz@lbcsi.fri.uni-lj.si) |
| 08:35.25 | *** join/#kde Lanoxx (n=ssg@58.35.224.30) |
| 08:35.32 | deitarion | peterbrett: I encode to Ogg Vorbis -q5 and FLAC (one for play, one for DVD+R archival) when ripping. The MP3s are things I download for free and -q5 is roughly equivalent to 192Kbit CBR. |
| 08:35.33 | *** join/#kde rohanpm (n=rohan@124-171-191-2.dyn.iinet.net.au) |
| 08:35.36 | zealo | deitarion: orz!! |
| 08:35.51 | deitarion | Now Playing: mp3[Michael Flatley's Lord Of The Dance - The Lord Of The Dance] - length[4:47] |
| 08:35.58 | zealo | deitarion: I guess you know what "orz" is :D |
| 08:36.04 | peterbrett | deitarion: Do you know of a Free AAC encoder? |
| 08:36.21 | deitarion | peterbrett: I've never needed one. Sorry. |
| 08:36.23 | *** join/#kde ICQnumber (n=pLs@unaffiliated/icqnumber) |
| 08:36.23 | peterbrett | Also, I have a (very old) Creative MP3 player, so my choice of codecs is limited by that to some extent |
| 08:36.29 | deitarion | zealo: Of course. My brother is a 4chan nut and I drop by there every now and then. |
| 08:36.42 | *** join/#kde Pinaraf (n=moi@ALille-251-1-40-114.w82-127.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 08:37.05 | deitarion | Also, a non-trivial portion of my collection is chiptunes, where you can fit an entire 3-minute song into between 40K and 500K depending on the format. |
| 08:37.05 | peterbrett | 4chan is the world seen through a very distorted lens :) |
| 08:37.39 | peterbrett | Sure. Like the music from the NES/SNES Mario games? |
| 08:37.52 | deitarion | peterbrett: ...but it can be quite funny. Besides, I spend most of my "4chan time" in #tma with the guys who have several terabytes of archived images and experiment with new tagging technologies. |
| 08:37.54 | peterbrett | Gah. Now I have the music from the first world of Mario 3 stuck in my head |
| 08:38.15 | deitarion | I forget whether I have that one but... |
| 08:38.43 | deitarion | Now Playing: spc[Patrick Phelan, Ashley Bennett, Paul Bennet - Title] - length[2:08] |
| 08:38.47 | deitarion | Top Gear 2 title theme. |
| 08:38.48 | zealo | deitarion: you guys definitely need a database |
| 08:39.19 | zealo | deitarion: and a auto-selection system |
| 08:39.20 | deitarion | zealo: I'm working on a PostgreSQL backed indexing tool for my images, another for the fanfiction I've read and want to read, and maybe a third for my music if IMMS's internal SQLite3 DB isn't enough. |
| 08:39.33 | deitarion | IMMS IS an auto-selection system. |
| 08:39.42 | peterbrett | zealo: A database... you mean a way of storing files, in such a way that they can be quickly accessed by a number of image viewing and editing programs? They invented this thing called a "filesystem" :P |
| 08:40.11 | *** join/#kde oggb4mp3_ (n=oggb4mp3@cpe-74-77-236-222.buffalo.res.rr.com) |
| 08:40.12 | GionnyBoss | I use amarok with a MySQL database and works very good :) |
| 08:40.13 | peterbrett | Are there any Linux filesystems that support multiple data streams for a file? |
| 08:40.14 | zealo | peterbrett: well, if you call fs a database,....it is ..... |
| 08:40.17 | deitarion | peterbrett: A DB for tagging or otherwise indexing massive quantities of data by various relevant attributes. |
| 08:40.34 | zealo | peterbrett: xattr |
| 08:40.40 | deitarion | peterbrett: I don't know about multiple data streams, but most support extended attributes these days. |
| 08:41.02 | peterbrett | zealo: Is that a command? |
| 08:41.13 | zealo | peterbrett: but many fs like ext2/ext3 has size limitaton on that |
| 08:41.17 | peterbrett | `man xattr' doesn't seem to do anything |
| 08:41.31 | deitarion | peterbrett: It's an abbrevation for "POSIX Extended Attributes" |
| 08:41.41 | peterbrett | What I meant is that with multiple data streams, you could store image data in one stream and <arbitrary metadata> in another |
| 08:41.53 | deitarion | peterbrett: That's what xattr are for, more or less. |
| 08:42.02 | zealo | peterbrett: xattr is a filesystem attribute "eXtended attribute", sth similar to multiple streams |
| 08:42.05 | deitarion | Still doesn't let you search the metadata easily. You need an index. |
| 08:42.26 | Jucato | xattr = eXtended ATTRibutes I think |
| 08:42.35 | peterbrett | deitarion: Why not some command-line tools like "find-attr" or something? |
| 08:42.35 | deitarion | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xattr |
| 08:43.00 | deitarion | peterbrett: Because it'd be like using the `find` command. You need an index to have reasonable speed. (like `locate`) |
| 08:43.14 | peterbrett | deitarion: Hang on... how many files are we talking about here? |
| 08:43.24 | GionnyBoss | I agree with deitarion ... for example, without a database that contains my music indexing tags, I would not be able to find music very easily |
| 08:43.29 | deitarion | peterbrett: Anywhere between 10,000 and over a million. |
| 08:43.42 | peterbrett | Ah. |
| 08:43.43 | peterbrett | Hmm |
| 08:43.48 | zealo | peterbrett: xattr has size limitation in many Linux fs |
| 08:43.49 | deitarion | ...and I need to be able to index the ones which have been moved to removable media too. |
| 08:43.59 | peterbrett | Idea. Store images in a database, use FUSE to mount the database like a filesystem? |
| 08:44.02 | *** join/#kde Hassmaschine (n=root@208-45-73-22.clsp.qwest.net) |
| 08:44.19 | peterbrett | database can retrieve stuff from external storage transparently |
| 08:44.27 | deitarion | peterbrett: Don't abuse the DB. Store the images in a folder or tree of folders and use the DB for the index. |
| 08:44.27 | zealo | peterbrett: is suitable for selinux tags, but may not for user specified arbitray tags |
| 08:44.52 | deitarion | zealo: I know xattr is used by Beagle to keep track of when files need to be reindexed. I assume it stores a custom "last indexed" timestamp., |
| 08:45.08 | peterbrett | I've been doing something similar with symbol libraries for electronic design |
| 08:45.23 | peterbrett | THere's a database which the schematic capture tool can look at |
| 08:45.31 | peterbrett | But where the symbols are coming from is hidden |
| 08:45.45 | zealo | deitarion: yeah, maybe, never used beagle :P |
| 08:45.52 | deitarion | I've already got my DB design. I just need to finish writing the app for it. I've already got a high-speed batch-tagging GUI in mind. |
| 08:46.05 | peterbrett | So they could come from anywhere. At the moment symbols can come from the output of commands, from a filesystem or from Scheme scripts |
| 08:46.22 | deitarion | (Somewhere between 0.5 seconds and 3 seconds per image, thanks to MRU and MFU tag lists) |
| 08:46.37 | peterbrett | That's still... not very fast |
| 08:47.02 | deitarion | peterbrett: For tagging. The human mind can't really tag faster than 0.5 seconds.) |
| 08:47.04 | zealo | yeah, 3s/img is not attractive |
| 08:47.23 | *** join/#kde rami_ (n=rami@87.109.28.224) |
| 08:47.42 | zealo | deitarion: if that's the speed, how much time for TGB images ? |
| 08:47.53 | peterbrett | If I have 10,000 images of "cars" and I want to tag them it would take 8 hours |
| 08:48.06 | *** join/#kde krijali (n=krijali@c-67-164-136-106.hsd1.tx.comcast.net) |
| 08:48.14 | peterbrett | s/cars/<whatever>/ |
| 08:48.29 | zealo | peterbrett: hehe |
| 08:48.34 | deitarion | peterbrett: That's why it'll be able to import tag-to-SHA1 mappings from the DBs maintained by my fellow #tma members. |
| 08:48.38 | peterbrett | (This is 4chan) ;) |
| 08:48.58 | peterbrett | deitarion: And export, hopefully? |
| 08:49.17 | deitarion | peterbrett: If you can import, you can export. Everyone in #tma with an image DB knows at least a little programming. |
| 08:49.27 | zealo | peterbrett: well, you guys need to tell me where 4chan comes from...... |
| 08:49.41 | *** join/#kde mnabil (n=mnabil@196.205.193.38) |
| 08:49.55 | deitarion | zealo: Can you be more specific? There are multiple questions that phrase can ask. |
| 08:50.00 | peterbrett | http://4chan.org -- no-one can explain 4chan. You must see for yourself. |
| 08:50.03 | Chani | whoa. |
| 08:50.09 | peterbrett | Sorry Chani |
| 08:50.10 | zealo | peterbrett: whoa |
| 08:50.19 | Chani | konq (kde3) just failed to unmount my usb key |
| 08:50.34 | peterbrett | Chani: That's happened a couple of times to me recently |
| 08:50.40 | zealo | Chani: fuser -v /mountpoint |
| 08:50.43 | peterbrett | I personally suspect HAL |
| 08:50.51 | deitarion | Never happened to me, but has happened once or twice for my brother. |
| 08:51.02 | deitarion | (I'm on Gentoo, he's on Kubuntu. Go figure.) |
| 08:51.26 | Chani | zealo: kde gave me a list of things supposedly using hte mountpoint. includid such nonsense as dhclient... |
| 08:51.30 | zealo | deitarion: well, you do have some opinion on your brohter :D |
| 08:51.57 | Chani | it's like it tried to unmount the wrong thing or something |
| 08:52.02 | zealo | Chani: fuser will tell you that |
| 08:52.05 | deitarion | zealo: I'm commenting on how my "aura of computer function" is strong enough to make Gentoo work more smoothly than Kubuntu. |
| 08:52.09 | *** join/#kde Chid (n=charley@ACBD0229.ipt.aol.com) |
| 08:52.52 | deitarion | My brother is an artistic gamer who I've managed to move to Kubuntu for everything except games (dual-boot) and he sees the elegance of the console... unlike most artistic types. |
| 08:52.53 | Chani | just to make things more confusing: it doesn't appear in df |
| 08:53.07 | zealo | deitarion: kubuntu...,well, I never use that, its windows crash every 15 min, |
| 08:53.13 | Chani | looks like it did get unmounted after all. |
| 08:53.14 | *** join/#kde AnMaster (n=AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster) |
| 08:53.19 | Chani | weiird. |
| 08:53.20 | peterbrett | speaking of df... anyone played Dwarf Fortress? |
| 08:53.52 | deitarion | zealo: My brother never had a Kubuntu problem aside from the occasional glitch I solved in 5 seconds. (Maybe one every month or two) |
| 08:54.02 | *** join/#kde Secagy (n=Secagy@planeshift/player/Secagy) |
| 08:54.11 | peterbrett | Chani: The time that happened to me, I just issued 'sync', waited for it to complete, then hard-unplugged the device |
| 08:54.53 | zealo | deitarion: well, he may not be able to tell you sth, after a window is silently killed , I think |
| 08:54.58 | deitarion | The only time that happened to his comp, I ran `mount` to check the dev node, and then ran `sudo umount <dev node>` |
| 08:55.06 | zealo | deitarion: that explains why you think kubuntu is ok |
| 08:55.07 | zealo | hah |
| 08:55.16 | deitarion | zealo: He'd let me know if windows were silently dieing. |
| 08:55.22 | *** join/#kde jsimonss (n=jsimonss@vallila-gw.hupnet.helsinki.fi) |
| 08:55.26 | *** join/#kde ArTo (n=iaguis@82.159.236.187.static.user.ono.com) |
| 08:56.09 | *** join/#kde tinin (n=tinin@170.Red-81-35-196.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 08:56.13 | zealo | deitarion: well, all people from debian I know failed when try to switch to kubuntu |
| 08:56.17 | zealo | when tring |
| 08:56.32 | peterbrett | When trying? |
| 08:56.37 | zealo | yep :) |
| 08:56.39 | zealo | sorry |
| 08:57.11 | Qrawl | where do I find my other hard drives in KDE4 |
| 08:57.14 | *** join/#kde cesi (n=raptor@C4415.karlshof.wh.tu-darmstadt.de) |
| 08:57.20 | deitarion | I've installed distros on my own machine three times. WinXP --> Mandrake 10.0, Mandrake 10.0 --> Gentoo x86, empty --> Gentoo amd64 |
| 08:58.02 | deitarion | Never had a problem. I've also helped my brothers install WinXP-Kubuntu dual-boot setups twice each (two of them, four installs total) and my mother once (no dual-boot, just Kubuntu) |
| 08:58.06 | *** join/#kde AnMaster (n=AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster) |
| 08:58.15 | zealo | deitarion: my linux history: rh5.0 -> rh5.1-> rh6.0 -> rh7.0 -> rh7.2 -> rh8.0 -> rh9.0(wow sucks)-> |
| 08:58.29 | *** join/#kde agnitio_ (n=magnus@h-91-126-123-244.wholesale.rp80.se) |
| 08:58.36 | *** join/#kde Q-collective (n=emil@s5593b81f.adsl.wanadoo.nl) |
| 08:58.37 | peterbrett | I currently use Fedora 7/8 |
| 08:58.46 | zealo | mandrake ?? -> mandrake?? -> debian sid (wow,good) |
| 08:58.53 | peterbrett | The KDE support is... not brilliant. |
| 08:58.54 | deitarion | Oh yeah, I've dual-booted to ancient Slackware and Mandrake 6.0 ages ago, but that was before I entered high school. |
| 08:59.34 | Q-collective | mdk 6? that's quite a few years ago |
| 08:59.51 | zealo | peterbrett: Fedora is much better than the later RH series |
| 09:00.02 | peterbrett | zealo: That's not much of an achievement |
| 09:00.08 | deitarion | Q-collective: I dual-booted to Mandrake 6 back when it was brand new. |
| 09:00.10 | zealo | Q-collective: don't remember :) |
| 09:00.43 | deitarion | I'd never run deb-based or rpm-based distros for two reasons, both related to the type of geek I am... |
| 09:00.56 | deitarion | Making proper (non-checkinstall) debs is hell. |
| 09:00.57 | Q-collective | I remember fedora 2 being much worse than fedora 1 (which was basically redhat 9.1) |
| 09:01.00 | zealo | peterbrett: hmm, until I find debian, kde is not good in all others |
| 09:01.08 | deitarion | RPMs are easy to make, but they're a hellishly messed-up format. |
| 09:01.22 | peterbrett | zealo: I find Debian unusable. Each to his own. |
| 09:01.37 | peterbrett | And I let other people package the software I write ;) |
| 09:01.38 | zealo | peterbrett: :) |
| 09:01.55 | Q-collective | hehe |
| 09:01.57 | *** join/#kde Smooph (n=Smooph@riedhcp21.rz.uni-frankfurt.de) |
| 09:02.18 | deitarion | Debian also has one other problem. Unlike Gentoo, Debian only lets one process access the package DB at a time, so I can't be running `apt-get install foo` and suddenly realize I want to open Adept to check what else is available... or to install something else at the same time. |
| 09:02.23 | *** join/#kde soa2ii (n=soa2ii@i59F54FBE.versanet.de) |
| 09:03.01 | deitarion | With Portage, pkgcore, or Paludis, I can do two installs at the same time without problem. With apt, I can't even install and browse the DB at the same time. |
| 09:03.34 | Q-collective | http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/01/16/0133213&from=rss |
| 09:03.35 | Q-collective | lol |
| 09:04.11 | *** join/#kde RipleyEllen (n=SanityIO@217.116.60.84) |
| 09:04.15 | zealo | deitarion: hmm, that's a problem. but I never had that situation...... |
| 09:04.52 | zealo | deitarion: is gentoo's repos as large as debian ? |
| 09:05.21 | deitarion | zealo: Roughly equal when you compensate for Debian having a foo,foo-doc,foo-dev split for many packages. |
| 09:06.00 | *** join/#kde greencube (n=erik@83-177-66-253.cust.tele2.se) |
| 09:06.04 | zealo | deitarion: I am lazy to build packages from sources |
| 09:06.25 | deitarion | `apt-get install foo` from binaries, `emerge foo` from sources. It just takes longer and gives you more control. |
| 09:06.27 | Q-collective | zealo: you just "emerge foo" and sit back |
| 09:07.29 | deitarion | Just don't set stupid "--omg-optimize" CFLAGS in /etc/make.conf like "-funroll-all-loops" or you'll be called a "ricer moron" by Gentoo users who actually know what they're doing. |
| 09:07.55 | *** join/#kde atomik_ (n=atomik@121.244-240-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) |
| 09:08.00 | qupada | Q-collective: what you do is commandeer a bunch of machines belonging to people you live/work with and set up a distributed compile cluster |
| 09:08.04 | zealo | deitarion: ok, search your repos and see if it has qterm? and can alien convert packages for gentoo ? |
| 09:08.14 | qupada | things compile amazingly fast when you have core2 quad machines helping out |
| 09:08.24 | deitarion | [N] x11-misc/qterm (~0.4.0 ~0.4.0-r1 {arts esd ssl}): QTerm is a BBS client in Linux. |
| 09:08.33 | zealo | qupada: distcc |
| 09:08.41 | peterbrett | zealo: icecream |
| 09:08.47 | qupada | zealo: i prefer icecream. saves having to set things up |
| 09:08.53 | deitarion | As for alien, I'd assume so. you can basically extract any package into Gentoo as long as the deps are there and you've installed the appropriate extraction tools. |
| 09:08.54 | zealo | deitarion: seems good |
| 09:09.39 | *** join/#kde annma (n=annma@kde/annma) |
| 09:09.39 | deitarion | The ~ before the version numbers means that it's keyworded unstable... but you can mix unstable packages into your stable system on Gentoo just by adding lines to /etc/portage/package.keywords |
| 09:09.47 | deitarion | That's one of the big reasons I like a from-source distro. |
| 09:10.11 | zealo | peterbrett: hmm, I'd try that, thanks |
| 09:10.17 | qupada | zealo: where distcc requres manual configuration of the addresses of hosts in your cluster and having an identically versioned cross compiler set up if the architectures aren't the same, icecream builds a tarball of cc, as, ld, libc and other libs it needs and distributes that with the compile unit. requires a little bit of manual work if you have things that aren't x86 and amd64, but between those two, no configuration necessary |
| 09:10.18 | *** join/#kde mike00 (n=mike@ppp121-44-249-154.lns4.mel4.internode.on.net) |
| 09:10.28 | *** join/#kde troy__ (n=troy@wnpgmb014sw-ad02-230-133.dynamic.mts.net) |
| 09:10.33 | qupada | zealo: http://en.opensuse.org/Icecream |
| 09:10.54 | zealo | qupada: good, thanks to you, I've been using distcc for years :) |
| 09:11.12 | zealo | peterbrett: and to you, tooo |
| 09:11.13 | deitarion | I've got a Athlon64 X2 5000+ and I'm still migrating away from being used to compiling on a 2Ghz Celeron, so I don't need distcc. |
| 09:11.20 | deitarion | s/got a/got an/ |
| 09:11.58 | zealo | deitarion: I compiled a lot, and soo, I need serveral boxes to do the job :) |
| 09:12.22 | zealo | qupada: is icecream faster or sth ? |
| 09:12.31 | peterbrett | deitarion: You see, if you'd been reading PlanetKDE, you'd have known about icecream for years ;) |
| 09:12.33 | tuxick | wasn't there some "validator.w3.org" tool/link for konq? |
| 09:12.45 | qupada | zealo: not really. just easier to configure and maintain |
| 09:12.48 | deitarion | I'd distcc or icecream in my Celeron 2Ghz as an extra compile host, but I felt it was more hassle than it was worth. Partly because the Celeron is now a testing box and it's usually turned off. |
| 09:12.59 | qupada | zealo: i don't actually have a problem with distcc at all. it's just trying to build an i686 environment on an x86_64 centos box that drove me mad |
| 09:13.05 | peterbrett | zealo: http://en.opensuse.org/Icecream#I_use_distcc.2C_why_should_I_change.3F |
| 09:13.11 | tuxick | ah nevermind, found it |
| 09:13.14 | deitarion | peterbrett: I do know about icecream. I just only have two computers and used to have one. |
| 09:13.21 | zealo | peterbrett: well, I seldom go to planetkde, I am only a kde user, still far from a kde hot fans :D |
| 09:13.22 | zealo | LOL |
| 09:13.28 | qupada | it's damn near impossible to get centos to behave sensibly, so the auto-distributed compiler sounded nice |
| 09:13.28 | peterbrett | lol |
| 09:13.33 | *** join/#kde shakes (n=shakes@amarok/developer/shakes) |
| 09:13.56 | *** join/#kde Beineri_ (n=Beineri@nat/suse/x-1866803be7d0157f) |
| 09:13.57 | deitarion | Oh yeah, I'm not sure about icecream, but Gentoo has built-in support for distcc. |
| 09:14.11 | zealo | qupada: then why you use that centos ? |
| 09:14.30 | qupada | zealo: no choice. it's our test rig at work |
| 09:14.51 | qupada | my system updates are done via cron job at 3am so the cpu usage doesn't bother anyone |
| 09:14.52 | zealo | qupada: gerr....., |
| 09:15.03 | *** join/#kde amro (n=amro@82.101.184.160) |
| 09:15.33 | *** join/#kde Jejem (n=Jejem@smtp.ulteo.com) |
| 09:15.35 | Q-collective | qupada: late night workers pushingfor promotion perhaps? ;) |
| 09:16.21 | qupada | Q-collective: i'll set up a webcam and find out maybe |
| 09:16.44 | zealo | qupada: if every "anyone" has late-night jobs, you are bothering anyone :D |
| 09:17.10 | zealo | LOL |
| 09:17.17 | *** join/#kde Tatsh (n=Tatsh_zz@c-76-19-124-178.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) |
| 09:17.21 | Tatsh | what's wrong with this command |
| 09:17.23 | Tatsh | dcop ktorrent KTorrent getFileNames\(1\) |
| 09:17.27 | Tatsh | it keeps saying call failed |
| 09:17.42 | qupada | Tatsh: try 'dcop ktorrent KTorrent getFileNames 1' |
| 09:17.43 | *** join/#kde dbglt (n=dbglt@60-242-135-20.static.tpgi.com.au) |
| 09:17.46 | Tatsh | ok |
| 09:17.54 | Tatsh | that works |
| 09:18.01 | Tatsh | syntax ugh |
| 09:18.07 | peterbrett | Q-collective: Well, they deserve what they get |
| 09:18.54 | zealo | peterbrett: :D |
| 09:19.09 | Q-collective | hehe |
| 09:19.13 | zealo | peterbrett: why should good boys deserve that ? |
| 09:19.25 | peterbrett | zealo: Aren't they annoying little suck-ups? |
| 09:19.53 | Q-collective | peterbrett: so haven't, maybe I'll try it out on my laptop, where I can toy more |
| 09:20.43 | zealo | peterbrett: yep,hah, I hate suck-ups, but I use my company desktops to do jobs at night.... for my own jobs....... |
| 09:20.47 | deitarion | I'm currently recompiling my SVN HEAD build of KDE 4.x (emerge makes it simple) to see what new 4.1 features have been added so far. I hear there's a few already in progress. |
| 09:21.00 | peterbrett | zealo: Mwahahahahaha! Right? |
| 09:21.35 | *** join/#kde maki_d (n=maki@79.125.149.124) |
| 09:22.13 | *** join/#kde Zarin (n=cr@124-169-253-135.dyn.iinet.net.au) |
| 09:22.25 | *** join/#kde Lanoxx (n=ssg@58.35.224.30) |
| 09:22.39 | Q-collective | deitarion: hmm, interesting, I really should try out the kde svn overlay |
| 09:23.01 | zealo | byes guys, I, the little non-suck-ups is going home, off time! with my machines waiting for mid-night to shock those who really S**K ! |
| 09:23.20 | *** join/#kde pinotree (n=pino@host-84-221-18-46.cust-adsl.tiscali.it) |
| 09:23.30 | zealo | :D |
| 09:23.46 | *** join/#kde emu (n=emu@pD9EB463D.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 09:23.54 | *** join/#kde peremen (i=peremen@121.144.78.22) |
| 09:24.36 | peterbrett | bye zealo |
| 09:25.33 | qupada | sorry to change the subject and all, but i just want to gauge opinions. has anyone else spent all day laughing their arse off over apple's attempt at an ultraportable laptop |
| 09:25.41 | *** join/#kde konadr (n=Kon@unaffiliated/konadr) |
| 09:25.46 | *** join/#kde whirm (n=whirm@50.Red-83-56-196.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 09:26.18 | *** join/#kde Zarin (n=cr@124-169-253-135.dyn.iinet.net.au) |
| 09:26.44 | *** join/#kde tinytony (n=tt@c-88d2e253.03-2013-73746f2.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) |
| 09:27.22 | *** join/#kde argonl (i=beezle@bas11-toronto12-1088915673.dsl.bell.ca) |
| 09:28.21 | Q-collective | qupada: "ultraportable"? |
| 09:28.25 | whirm | hi all! |
| 09:29.20 | qupada | Q-collective: yeah. that's exactly what i was thinking. pretty strained definition of the word |
| 09:30.34 | *** join/#kde gik_ (n=gik@222.131.122.25) |
| 09:31.36 | *** join/#kde atomik_ (n=atomik@121.244-240-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) |
| 09:32.07 | *** join/#kde Ardarandir (n=JMW@p5B071FE9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 09:32.24 | *** join/#kde hnr (n=henry@cpc1-cmbg6-0-0-cust572.cmbg.cable.ntl.com) |
| 09:34.37 | *** join/#kde Lanoxx (n=ssg@58.35.224.30) |
| 09:35.00 | *** join/#kde hasiy (n=gik@222.131.122.25) |
| 09:39.36 | *** join/#kde Darkrift411 (n=spooky@ip68-104-174-99.ph.ph.cox.net) |
| 09:41.28 | *** join/#kde gergap (n=gergap@213.95.4.186) |
| 09:41.32 | gergap | hi |
| 09:43.55 | hasiy | 60hz... |
| 09:44.23 | gergap | does anyone know where kdevelop stores its GUI configuration, it's not in ~/.kde/share/apps/kdevelop |
| 09:44.30 | *** join/#kde Phlogi_ (n=bla@249-245.203-62.cust.bluewin.ch) |
| 09:45.00 | gergap | I removed my menubar by accident and don't know how to activate it again... |
| 09:45.17 | annma | .kde/share/config and the file is kdevelkoprc |
| 09:45.22 | gergap | thanks |
| 09:45.22 | annma | .kde/share/config and the file is kdeveloprc |
| 09:46.00 | Q-collective | deitarion: ok, nooby question, but what's the ebuild to pull down kde4 svn? I unmasked the stuff in package.keywords but emerge world -uDNav doesn't show updates :+ |
| 09:46.21 | *** join/#kde bob1955 (n=bob1955@dslb-084-057-064-046.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 09:46.43 | bob1955 | hi all |
| 09:47.01 | Q-collective | hi |
| 09:47.59 | *** join/#kde mxttie (n=mxttie@adhemar.uz.kuleuven.ac.be) |
| 09:50.27 | qupada | hey canllaith |
| 09:50.33 | canllaith | hey hey! long time no see :) |
| 09:50.38 | qupada | yeah |
| 09:50.48 | canllaith | Hey, are there any women working in technical roles in the company you work in ? |
| 09:51.39 | qupada | not presently. there were a few, but i pretty much have the job because one of them was a friend of a friend and she was leaving |
| 09:51.40 | *** part/#kde Tatsh (n=Tatsh_zz@c-76-19-124-178.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) |
| 09:51.49 | qupada | why do you ask? |
| 09:52.58 | canllaith | the general linuxchix rabble are organising some women in technology events and we're looking for people to invite |
| 09:53.40 | qupada | ah, cool cool |
| 09:53.52 | *** join/#kde SmatZ (n=smatz@a40-prg1-5-107.static.adsl.vol.cz) |
| 09:54.03 | *** join/#kde cbr (n=dell@84-50-129-123-dsl.rkv.estpak.ee) |
| 09:54.21 | canllaith | qupada: I'm thinking of picking up |
| 09:54.27 | canllaith | *finds link* |
| 09:54.44 | *** join/#kde smorg (n=smorg@71-34-56-246.mpls.qwest.net) |
| 09:54.55 | *** join/#kde xoqa (n=h@unaffiliated/hydan) |
| 09:55.02 | canllaith | qupada: http://www.fredmiranda.com/reviews/showproduct.php?product=21&sort=7&thecat=2 |
| 09:55.08 | canllaith | For the conference to be able to take some decent indoor shots |
| 09:55.52 | *** join/#kde gilliamb (n=gilliamb@198.36.33.53) |
| 09:55.53 | qupada | i've parted with a large chunk of cash and bought myself a Sony TZ. had to order an australian model (after some initial "no we don't sell that in nz" i got some names and numbers to get one from aussie), hopefully it will be here this week (only ordered monday) |
| 09:55.55 | *** join/#kde emilsedgh (n=emilsedg@79.132.197.242) |
| 09:56.02 | canllaith | oooohohoh lovely :) |
| 09:56.17 | canllaith | We should meet for coffee so you can show me (I know, I suck at finding time) |
| 09:56.30 | qupada | still have to get it first |
| 09:56.40 | qupada | the whole reason for the .au model is i wanted a solid state disk |
| 09:56.49 | *** join/#kde _luke_ (n=luke@124.189.64.162) |
| 09:56.49 | qupada | testing that water with both feet |
| 09:56.56 | canllaith | Yep |
| 09:57.37 | Jucato | heh.. now you're both vaio people :) |
| 09:57.42 | canllaith | :D |
| 09:58.12 | *** join/#kde Lanoxx (n=ssg@58.35.224.30) |
| 09:58.17 | qupada | Jucato: with that steaming pile of fail crapple has unleashed upon us today i feel very justified in buying it |
| 09:58.19 | *** join/#kde tsb (n=tsb@c900FBF51.dhcp.bluecom.no) |
| 09:58.19 | Jucato | still no vaio ux? |
| 09:58.20 | *** join/#kde [raphael] (n=raphael@raphael.netpark.at) |
| 09:58.21 | gilliamb | exit |
| 09:58.30 | Jucato | :) |
| 09:58.46 | canllaith | qupada: ARGH YES |
| 09:58.48 | Jucato | I saw some of that umpc thingy being sold around here |
| 09:58.54 | canllaith | If they delivered an 11" one that thin |
| 09:58.57 | canllaith | I would have ordered one this morning |
| 09:59.08 | canllaith | as it is, I just put my head in my hands and said 'WHY? OH WHY?' |
| 09:59.16 | Jucato | :D |
| 09:59.37 | *** join/#kde gilliamb (n=gilliamb@198.36.33.53) |
| 09:59.40 | qupada | i wouldn't. optical drive, >1 usb port, 11.1-12", removable battery and you'd be good to go |
| 09:59.56 | canllaith | But it ships with an OS I don't hate |
| 10:00.05 | *** part/#kde gilliamb (n=gilliamb@198.36.33.53) |
| 10:00.08 | canllaith | and the TZ only come with vista, I have the last T model that came with XP as an option |
| 10:00.15 | qupada | the TZ has nearly twice the battery capacity (65Wh vs 37) and a optical drive and is smaller and lighter. go figure |
| 10:00.20 | canllaith | I dual boot it of course, but when I do use windows I do not want it to be vista. |
| 10:00.37 | canllaith | qupada: you should get the long life battery for your TZ when your bank account recovers. |
| 10:00.47 | canllaith | I picked up one for my TX and I get 12 - 14 hours, depending |
| 10:00.48 | qupada | canllaith: i assure you windows won't be hanging around on it any longer than it takes to make recovery dvds off the hard drive partition |
| 10:01.36 | canllaith | until at&t release a stable ipsec version of their linux vpn client I'll still have a use for windows every now and then |
| 10:02.52 | qupada | with only 48GB, unless i grab a copy of xp + the 57,000 downloadable driver packages from sony's site, it's going to be one OS |
| 10:03.14 | canllaith | trying to shove XP on their vista laptops is really hard, I tried for a while :( |
| 10:03.18 | canllaith | remember how I got the SZ for work ? |
| 10:03.24 | qupada | yeah |
| 10:03.32 | canllaith | I eventually got rid of it and replaced it with a macbook |
| 10:03.42 | canllaith | beautiful beautiful machine, but it was crippled with vista |
| 10:03.43 | Q-collective | hehe |
| 10:04.20 | Q-collective | well, I don't want to play captain obvious here, but what about replacing it with linux? |
| 10:04.21 | Q-collective | :> |
| 10:04.35 | canllaith | See note above about at&t |
| 10:04.37 | Q-collective | saves you the costs of another macbook |
| 10:04.43 | canllaith | Certain software set that's required for work |
| 10:04.51 | Q-collective | oh well |
| 10:04.54 | qupada | will be interesting to see if vista plays out like another winME. quickly disowned by microsoft and forgotten about |
| 10:04.58 | Q-collective | wine no option? :p |
| 10:05.00 | canllaith | I so hope so |
| 10:05.02 | *** join/#kde emilsedgh (n=emilsedg@79.132.197.242) |
| 10:05.16 | *** join/#kde halcyonCorsair (n=halcyonC@203-97-105-19.cable.telstraclear.net) |
| 10:05.16 | canllaith | Q-collective: I'm a linux virtualisation technical specialist working in the linux team of a large well known IT company. |
| 10:05.41 | canllaith | Trust me, Linux is an option for most of what I do but there's some really annoying stupid software stupid people made a policy forcing us to use. |
| 10:05.51 | Q-collective | aye |
| 10:06.10 | emilsedgh | i compiled kdeutils, now how could i run KMilo? |
| 10:06.24 | canllaith | I use a combination of linux, windows xp and OSX sorta depending on what I'm doing at the time. Personal stuff linux is all great for :) |
| 10:06.32 | qupada | canllaith: yeah, i encounter that often. had to vpn into client machines for troubleshooting a couple of times now. every single time it has to be a damn windows style pptp vpn |
| 10:06.48 | qupada | i tried to get it to work in linux, i really did. it just didn't want to know |
| 10:06.52 | canllaith | qupada: I actually had to build a vpn appliance for my macbook because there's not a good VPN solution for it either |
| 10:07.09 | canllaith | It's a vm that runs a vpn client and I pptp into *that* and it pushes $employer routes at me |
| 10:07.24 | *** join/#kde `Zmax` (n=Zmax@151.81.4.247) |
| 10:07.28 | canllaith | So there's an option to move back to linux if I can get that really solid, right now it's a little flakey and I have to pull out XP native and use that |
| 10:07.46 | qupada | egads |
| 10:07.48 | canllaith | Well, or I could get my lazy butt into the office every day instead of vpning in from home but...... |
| 10:07.54 | canllaith | Like that's going to happen. |
| 10:08.03 | qupada | networkmanager seems all set up to handle pptp, it just doesn't quite work |
| 10:08.13 | canllaith | Yeah |
| 10:08.38 | *** join/#kde linoob (n=netuser@101.88.50.60.cbj04-home.tm.net.my) |
| 10:08.40 | *** join/#kde true__ (n=true@ip70-173-86-102.lv.lv.cox.net) |
| 10:08.44 | canllaith | I'm confident that within the next year or two at&t will really polish up their linux vpn client and about the time I'm looking to upgrade the macbook, going back to kubuntu will be a great option |
| 10:08.58 | *** join/#kde annma (n=annma@AToulouse-256-1-73-139.w86-205.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 10:09.04 | canllaith | there's always vmware for stuff that doesn't need to be low level after all :) |
| 10:09.19 | qupada | i'm really glad my remote access to work is openvpn |
| 10:09.39 | canllaith | I so wish they'd use something sane |
| 10:09.46 | canllaith | Sadly I can't do anything about it, it's global policy. |
| 10:09.56 | canllaith | and the dialer they use on windows is really nice |
| 10:10.27 | qupada | do you have some arcane policy about using personal laptops on the corporate lan? |
| 10:10.35 | canllaith | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:10.57 | canllaith | It's actually really sane. You can use a personal machine with manager approval as long as it's compliant - virus scanner (unless exempt), sensitive data encrypted, etc. |
| 10:11.07 | canllaith | macs and linux except from running virus scanners. |
| 10:12.08 | *** join/#kde phiras (n=phiras@81.10.126.2) |
| 10:13.25 | *** join/#kde Raging_Hog (n=Raging_H@natti.edita.fi) |
| 10:14.02 | *** part/#kde phiras (n=phiras@81.10.126.2) |
| 10:14.14 | qupada | canllaith: did you get around to buying a 40D yet? i remember you saying something about wanting one |
| 10:14.41 | canllaith | No, still got the beaten up old 20 and the 400 |
| 10:14.52 | canllaith | Although I did pick up the 24-105 L for the 20d |
| 10:15.02 | qupada | yeah, i remember you telling me about that |
| 10:15.07 | canllaith | :D |
| 10:15.12 | qupada | i still just have my 17-85 and 70-200 F4 |
| 10:15.16 | *** join/#kde VagaStorm (n=VagaStor@85.19.64.216) |
| 10:15.26 | qupada | couple of days ago i got bored and dismantled the 18-55 kit lens |
| 10:15.38 | qupada | fascinating things really, don't think it's ever going back together though |
| 10:15.43 | canllaith | Cool :) |
| 10:16.04 | VagaStorm | how can I create a new panel in kde4? |
| 10:16.34 | annma | you can't |
| 10:16.39 | annma | wip |
| 10:17.39 | emilsedgh | still no help with running kmilo?i just compiled it but i dont know how i should start it |
| 10:17.49 | VagaStorm | lol, I cant..... er... isn't that a bit strange? |
| 10:18.07 | *** join/#kde Lanoxx (n=ssg@58.35.224.30) |
| 10:20.38 | *** join/#kde true (n=true@ip70-173-86-102.lv.lv.cox.net) |
| 10:21.57 | *** part/#kde greencube (n=erik@83-177-66-253.cust.tele2.se) |
| 10:22.21 | *** join/#kde mirshafie_ (n=mirshafi@84-217-26-179.tn.glocalnet.net) |
| 10:22.29 | *** join/#kde Aeoris_ (n=Aeoris@47.0.221.87.dynamic.jazztel.es) |
| 10:23.06 | *** join/#kde kallepersson (n=kalleper@c-d9f8e455.98-32-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) |
| 10:23.16 | *** join/#kde tifauv (n=tifauv@ANantes-156-1-22-27.w90-12.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 10:23.34 | alsuren | I have some interesting behaviour when I scroll up (in pretty much *any* kde4 app) http://www.srcf.ucam.org/~dl325/scratch/konsole_before.png http://www.srcf.ucam.org/~dl325/scratch/konsole_after.png |
| 10:24.29 | Q-collective | alsuren: 4.0.0? |
| 10:24.50 | *** join/#kde AhmedSoliman (n=ahmed@196.219.96.141) |
| 10:24.58 | pinotree | alsuren: nvidia? |
| 10:25.09 | alsuren | yeah |
| 10:26.25 | alsuren | Q-collective: kde4 from svn since a while back, including my build from last night |
| 10:27.03 | pinotree | alsuren: nvidia driver bug |
| 10:27.13 | pinotree | the very latest version should fix that |
| 10:27.20 | *** join/#kde jsimonss (n=jsimonss@vallila-gw.hupnet.helsinki.fi) |
| 10:31.08 | *** join/#kde ahmed_ (n=ahmed@196.219.96.141) |
| 10:35.50 | *** join/#kde Worf (n=worf@84.119.63.24) |
| 10:37.48 | *** join/#kde _root (n=root@125.161.168.205) |
| 10:42.07 | *** join/#kde cgoncalves (n=carlos@cr-217-129-232-159.netvisao.pt) |
| 10:45.43 | *** join/#kde ArTo (n=iaguis@82.159.236.187.static.user.ono.com) |
| 10:45.55 | *** join/#kde peremen (i=peremen@121.144.78.22) |
| 10:46.04 | *** join/#kde cb400f (n=cb400f@4808ds2-suoe.0.fullrate.dk) |
| 10:46.14 | *** join/#kde Pensa`MIA (n=pensacol@wlan-196064.nbw.tue.nl) |
| 10:48.35 | *** join/#kde milliams (n=matt@cpc1-warw5-0-0-cust825.sol2.cable.ntl.com) |
| 10:49.38 | *** join/#kde jyrki696 (n=S3010IL@59.91.200.119) |
| 10:49.52 | *** part/#kde jyrki696 (n=S3010IL@59.91.200.119) |
| 10:50.30 | *** join/#kde jyrki696 (n=S3010IL@59.91.200.119) |
| 10:50.57 | *** join/#kde AbsintheSyringe2 (n=havoc@se400.pppoe-8292.sa.bih.net.ba) |
| 10:51.27 | *** join/#kde jyrki696 (n=S3010IL@59.91.200.119) |
| 10:51.48 | *** part/#kde jyrki696 (n=S3010IL@59.91.200.119) |
| 10:53.13 | *** join/#kde jyrki696 (n=S3010IL@59.91.200.119) |
| 10:54.35 | *** join/#kde jyrki696 (n=S3010IL@59.91.200.119) |
| 10:54.45 | *** part/#kde jyrki696 (n=S3010IL@59.91.200.119) |
| 10:55.56 | *** join/#kde peppe (n=peppe@unaffiliated/peppe) |
| 10:56.00 | *** join/#kde jyrki696 (n=S3010IL@59.91.200.119) |
| 10:57.00 | *** join/#kde MethoS_mobile (n=clemens@p54894B23.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 10:58.07 | *** join/#kde jyrki696 (n=S3010IL@59.91.200.119) |
| 10:58.46 | Q-collective | alsuren: you could install it manually |
| 10:59.49 | *** join/#kde peremen (i=peremen@121.144.78.22) |
| 11:00.27 | *** join/#kde gzip4 (n=xxx@90.150.110.118) |
| 11:02.31 | *** join/#kde stf (n=stefan@91.92.170.204) |
| 11:02.47 | *** part/#kde stf (n=stefan@91.92.170.204) |
| 11:03.34 | alsuren | *smiles* rather not, thanks. |
| 11:03.54 | *** join/#kde nael (n=nael@ras75-1-81-57-62-96.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 11:04.21 | *** join/#kde hdh (n=hdh@58.187.94.70) |
| 11:04.23 | *** join/#kde eSa|away (i=bip@ip-87-238-2-45.adsl.cheapnet.it) |
| 11:07.13 | *** join/#kde Rasther (n=diego@200-101-234-68.fnsce7003.e.brasiltelecom.net.br) |
| 11:07.38 | *** join/#kde jun (n=jun@KD125028161107.ppp-bb.dion.ne.jp) |
| 11:08.11 | *** join/#kde MethoS_mobile (n=clemens@p54894B23.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 11:10.53 | deitarion | Q-collective: Are you using the split ebuilds? |
| 11:11.27 | deitarion | ...because the 9999.4 SVN HEAD ebuilds are only monolithic. |
| 11:12.05 | *** join/#kde maki_d (n=maki@79.125.158.78) |
| 11:12.13 | Q-collective | deitarion: yeah, I'm using the monolithic svn ebuilds |
| 11:12.55 | deitarion | also, there are some quirks I noticed while setting up, so let me pastebin my /etc/portage/package.keywords/kde4 |
| 11:12.59 | deitarion | http://rafb.net/p/nRdYoO99.html |
| 11:13.50 | *** join/#kde jc (n=jc@host-212-68-253-186.brutele.be) |
| 11:14.17 | Q-collective | deitarion: I think I pretty much have all of those |
| 11:14.21 | Q-collective | :) |
| 11:14.30 | deitarion | Including the top two? |
| 11:15.02 | Q-collective | hmm, no, but I don't have any blocks |
| 11:15.16 | *** join/#kde jdettner_ (n=jdettner@cl-2099.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) |
| 11:15.48 | deitarion | I had to add those because, at least on amd64, the non -r 3.5.7 packages conflicted with kdesvn. If you're on x86 or ~amd64, maybe that's why you don't need them. |
| 11:16.23 | deitarion | Anyway, try typing this (because it'll either work or fail with a useful message) --> emerge -pv =kde-base/kdebase-9999.4 |
| 11:16.38 | *** join/#kde nik11 (n=dragoon@cht33-1-82-228-78-181.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 11:17.35 | *** join/#kde NoName (n=smirk@217.28.190.150) |
| 11:20.49 | *** join/#kde jdettner (n=jdettner@cl-2099.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) |
| 11:21.16 | *** join/#kde Fa (n=fa@unaffiliated/fa) |
| 11:21.58 | *** join/#kde ICQnumber (n=pLs@e178240208.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 11:22.54 | Q-collective | deitarion: works, what do you want to know specifically? |
| 11:23.54 | deitarion | Q-collective: What were you trying to type to pull them in? |
| 11:24.43 | *** join/#kde ICQnumber_ (n=pLs@unaffiliated/icqnumber) |
| 11:25.17 | *** join/#kde lol_h (n=laurent@ip-213-49-80-142.dsl.scarlet.be) |
| 11:25.21 | deitarion | Among other things, I think I remember reading that -u won't pull in packages from a new slot under certain circumstances... so `emerge =kde-base/kde-9999.4` might be your best bet. |
| 11:25.32 | Q-collective | oh |
| 11:25.40 | Q-collective | it works now |
| 11:25.58 | Q-collective | I just forgot to echo "source /usr/portage/local/layman/make.conf" >> /etc/make.conf |
| 11:25.59 | Q-collective | :p |
| 11:26.08 | Q-collective | new install and all |
| 11:26.19 | Q-collective | used for experimental toys and stuff |
| 11:26.25 | deitarion | Heh. It's been so long since I installed layman that I completely forgot about things like that. |
| 11:26.34 | Q-collective | yeah, same |
| 11:28.58 | plovs | alsuren: konsole in kde4 does not have those problems if you install the latest nvidia drivers using envy |
| 11:30.03 | *** join/#kde cepera (n=serega_k@86.110.162.2) |
| 11:30.57 | alsuren | plovs: don't worry: I'll make do with using xephyr as a work-around for now |
| 11:30.58 | Q-collective | pinotree: no shit :p |
| 11:31.00 | *** join/#kde profoX` (n=wesley@ubuntu/member/profox) |
| 11:32.05 | plovs | anybody been able to build akregator on kde4?, it builds fine but i can't run it, missing kdepimlib |
| 11:32.19 | *** join/#kde brot (n=brot@pD95EFEA8.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 11:32.33 | deitarion | plovs: I believe that's a known problem which the devs are working on. |
| 11:32.48 | *** join/#kde piliooo (n=x@214.Red-88-14-184.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 11:33.01 | pinotree | no, i believe it's a badly done installation on plovs' side |
| 11:33.21 | piliooo | hola ¿alguien puede decirme como se cambia el tamaño de los iconos del escritorio en kde? |
| 11:33.32 | pinotree | piliooo: hola.... english here, please |
| 11:33.55 | plovs | pinotree: in that case i'll try some more |
| 11:34.06 | pinotree | Q-collective: sure, that's exactly why i said gentoo stuff is offtopic here :) |
| 11:34.23 | piliooo | sorry i not speak english =( |
| 11:34.31 | pinotree | you just did :) |
| 11:34.34 | *** join/#kde Trevelyan` (n=_@unaffiliated/trevelyan) |
| 11:34.48 | piliooo | whot? |
| 11:34.51 | *** join/#kde voonte (n=voonte@90-227-17-40-no130.tbcn.telia.com) |
| 11:35.57 | *** join/#kde hibread (n=hibread@CPE-124-189-245-183.nsw.bigpond.net.au) |
| 11:35.57 | *** join/#kde voonte (n=voonte@90-227-17-40-no130.tbcn.telia.com) |
| 11:36.52 | piliooo | They can say to me since(as,like) there changes the size of the icons of the office? |
| 11:37.35 | *** join/#kde raptor1701 (n=philipp@ppp-88-217-111-27.dynamic.mnet-online.de) |
| 11:37.55 | *** join/#kde kayo (n=kayo@189.27.15.54.adsl.gvt.net.br) |
| 11:38.58 | plovs | actually pinotree was right akregator works on kde4 (most of it anyway) |
| 11:40.58 | piliooo | desktop icons |
| 11:41.47 | Chani | office desktop icons? what? |
| 11:41.52 | *** join/#kde Gunirus (n=Gunirus@unaffiliated/Gunirus) |
| 11:42.14 | *** join/#kde MethoS_mobile (n=clemens@p54894B23.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 11:42.31 | Chani | I don't know anything about desktop icons anyways. I don't use them |
| 11:42.34 | *** join/#kde jloupc (n=jl@163.5.255.63) |
| 11:42.46 | piliooo | I am sorry, I am using a translator in line and it seems that it(he) is not very good |
| 11:42.59 | hdh | do you mean the desktop icons' size are not the same? |
| 11:43.49 | *** join/#kde polz (n=polz@lbcsi.fri.uni-lj.si) |
| 11:43.51 | *** join/#kde rand_acs (n=randacs@dsl-240-90-69.telkomadsl.co.za) |
| 11:43.55 | piliooo | I want that some are mas big that different |
| 11:43.57 | Q-collective | piliooo: you could try #kde-es i english is too hard |
| 11:44.08 | Q-collective | s/i/if/ |
| 11:45.57 | *** join/#kde buscher (n=buscher@p57BCF520.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 11:48.14 | piliooo | Good it(he,she) will leave them this way, thanks to all |
| 11:49.08 | *** join/#kde aantipop (n=michael@frnk-590eb36a.pool.einsundeins.de) |
| 11:49.08 | *** join/#kde Captain_Redbeard (n=carl@88.80.164.166) |
| 11:49.59 | *** join/#kde bytejunkie (n=bytejunk@dslb-084-057-240-225.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 11:50.02 | Captain_Redbeard | Hey guys. I need a hand... I can't seem to access the "trunk" through the anonymous kde SVN... what am I doing wrong here? |
| 11:50.04 | *** join/#kde lol_h (n=laurent@ip-213-49-80-142.dsl.scarlet.be) |
| 11:51.42 | pinotree | what command are you using? and what error are you getting? |
| 11:52.02 | *** part/#kde piliooo (n=x@214.Red-88-14-184.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 11:52.50 | pinotree | Captain_Redbeard: ^^^ |
| 11:54.12 | Captain_Redbeard | pinotree: sorry.. |
| 11:54.16 | Captain_Redbeard | pinotree: I run: svn co svn://anonsvn.kde.org/trunk/extragear/utils/yakuake |
| 11:54.31 | Captain_Redbeard | pinotree: and I get: svn: No repository found in 'svn://anonsvn.kde.org/trunk/extragear/utils/yakuake' |
| 11:54.32 | pinotree | of course, the command is not correct |
| 11:54.43 | pinotree | svn co svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/trunk/extragear/utils/yakuake |
| 11:55.21 | Captain_Redbeard | pinotree: w00t! You're a hero :) Didn't know the actual structure on the server... cheers man |
| 11:55.35 | pinotree | np |
| 11:56.24 | Captain_Redbeard | pinotree: I've been kinda fed up with yakuake not being finished... so I thought I'd spend some time polishing it for KDE4 :P |
| 11:56.54 | pinotree | "not being finished"? |
| 11:57.32 | *** join/#kde Lanken (n=zackglen@85.234.147.41) |
| 11:57.47 | Lanken | what is a good audio conversion utility for kde? |
| 11:58.38 | Lanken | I have a bunch of m4a files that I need to make into mp3 |
| 11:58.54 | aantipop | soundkonverter |
| 12:00.18 | Lanken | thanks much |
| 12:00.44 | appelza | systemsettings in 4.0 has no network configuration (ips, gateways) etc, is this coming back? |
| 12:01.04 | *** join/#kde jli_ (n=jli@217.117.79.106) |
| 12:03.02 | *** join/#kde kayo (n=kayo@189.27.15.54.adsl.gvt.net.br) |
| 12:04.08 | *** join/#kde ilj (n=ilj@217.117.79.106) |
| 12:05.11 | *** join/#kde BISSENpres (n=eeer@dsl-hkigw7-fe1ef900-196.dhcp.inet.fi) |
| 12:05.13 | *** join/#kde kde-true4 (n=kde@212.220.81.243) |
| 12:06.14 | *** join/#kde rand_acs_ (n=randacs@dsl-240-70-56.telkomadsl.co.za) |
| 12:07.28 | *** join/#kde Aeoris (n=Aeoris@145.1.221.87.dynamic.jazztel.es) |
| 12:07.49 | *** join/#kde Fox_1_ (n=Vardan@91.103.25.58) |
| 12:10.30 | Lanken | soundkonverter isn't working for me |
| 12:10.39 | Lanken | I start a batch of conversions and nothing happens... |
| 12:10.53 | Shirakawasuna | Lanken: if you run it in a terminal, does it gives you info? |
| 12:11.15 | *** join/#kde oYo (n=root@222.248.77.37) |
| 12:11.16 | *** join/#kde rand_acs1 (n=randacs@dsl-240-123-73.telkomadsl.co.za) |
| 12:11.44 | *** join/#kde nik11 (n=dragoon@cht33-1-82-228-78-181.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 12:12.28 | *** part/#kde oYo (n=root@222.248.77.37) |
| 12:12.30 | *** join/#kde pgquiles (n=pgquiles@62.43.226.52.static.user.ono.com) |
| 12:12.40 | *** join/#kde tuxman (n=tuxman@host-84-220-135-117.cust-adsl.tiscali.it) |
| 12:13.41 | Shirakawasuna | sorry, gotta go. Follow where the errors lead! |
| 12:14.27 | *** join/#kde paolo_ (n=paolo@83.139.194.194) |
| 12:14.30 | *** join/#kde Xemanth (n=xemanth@dsl-hkibras1-ff41c300-162.dhcp.inet.fi) |
| 12:14.46 | *** join/#kde Chid (n=charley@ACBD0229.ipt.aol.com) |
| 12:14.53 | *** join/#kde pgquiles (n=pgquiles@62.43.226.52.static.user.ono.com) |
| 12:16.20 | *** join/#kde smarter (n=smarter@ubuntu/member/smarter) |
| 12:16.46 | *** join/#kde flauschi (n=null9@dv-pool-1.dv-nr.fh-frankfurt.de) |
| 12:18.25 | *** join/#kde Seiya (n=Seiya@c-66-31-49-78.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) |
| 12:19.49 | *** join/#kde Thundercloud (n=thunderc@resnet15.nat.lancs.ac.uk) |
| 12:19.57 | *** join/#kde kde-true4 (n=kde@212.220.81.243) |
| 12:20.48 | *** join/#kde atomik_ (n=atomik@121.244-240-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) |
| 12:21.51 | aantipop | Lanken: you need the right decoders also.. |
| 12:22.39 | Lanken | aantipop: the "plugins" panel of the config dialog looks ok |
| 12:22.42 | *** join/#kde Gunirus (n=Gunirus@unaffiliated/Gunirus) |
| 12:22.44 | Lanken | aantipop: lots of green lights |
| 12:24.25 | aantipop | Lanken: check for mp3 and m4a ? |
| 12:24.39 | Lanken | aantipop: check :) |
| 12:24.51 | *** join/#kde annma_ (n=annma@AToulouse-256-1-132-138.w90-45.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 12:26.03 | aantipop | Lanken: hmm i never had problems with soundkonverter, check your output folder and stuff... |
| 12:27.01 | Lanken | aantipop: nothing in there |
| 12:27.08 | Lanken | and running it in a console didn't help. |
| 12:27.19 | Lanken | I think it might be a problem with faad or something. |
| 12:27.22 | Lanken | I'm not sure at all. |
| 12:27.32 | Lanken | I wonder if the m4as are copy-protected or something. |
| 12:28.31 | aantipop | Lanken: no further idea here :/ |
| 12:29.01 | *** join/#kde pogma (n=pogma@2001:5c0:96b3:0:219:21ff:fe53:fc68) |
| 12:29.46 | *** join/#kde ICQnumber (n=pLs@e178240208.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 12:32.12 | *** join/#kde MethoS_mobile (n=clemens@p54894B23.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 12:32.22 | *** join/#kde juan (n=juan@77-99-171-94.cable.ubr02.dals.blueyonder.co.uk) |
| 12:32.30 | juan | how do i restart kdm or atleast a comand to logout(bonus points if it logs me back in) |
| 12:33.31 | *** join/#kde drantin (i=justme@ppp0195.hakata17.bbiq.jp) |
| 12:33.45 | aantipop | is there any information if gtk-qt-engine will be ported to qt4 ? |
| 12:33.48 | *** join/#kde ubunturos (n=ubunturo@59.184.20.117) |
| 12:34.11 | Jucato | aantipop: someone already contacted the author of the engine. he said he hasn't started on it but will look into it |
| 12:34.26 | Jucato | it's a 3rd party engine so KDE doesn't have much control on when it gets done |
| 12:35.04 | aantipop | is there a way to change the default gtk theme somehow ? |
| 12:35.12 | *** join/#kde oYo (n=root@222.248.77.37) |
| 12:35.36 | *** part/#kde oYo (n=root@222.248.77.37) |
| 12:36.49 | Jucato | well you can still install that engine, then install a gtk theme and then change the gtk theme from the Control Center (GTK+ FOnts and Styles |
| 12:37.20 | aantipop | Jucato: but this wont affect kde4 ?! |
| 12:37.26 | *** join/#kde mabu (n=mabu@cmb32-29.dial-up.arnes.si) |
| 12:37.33 | *** join/#kde boom1992 (n=lukas@pD9E19804.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 12:37.42 | Jucato | it's not supposed to affect kde4. it's supposed to affect gtk apps |
| 12:38.03 | *** join/#kde Westlin (n=Westlin@trimmasters.com) |
| 12:38.19 | Jucato | gtk-qt-engine is a gtk engine (widget Style, in KDE terms) that lets GTK apps look like Qt apps (as much as it can) |
| 12:38.30 | aantipop | i know, im looking for a solution to get rid of the default gtk-theme of gtk apps in kde4 |
| 12:39.08 | Jucato | the reason why GTK apps now don't look like KDE 4 even with gtk-qt-engines is because that engine specifically emulates Qt 3 only |
| 12:39.31 | Jucato | so... chances of making gtk apps look like Oxygen is slim... |
| 12:39.43 | Jucato | but you can set them to use other gtk engines/themes |
| 12:39.56 | *** part/#kde Smooph (n=Smooph@riedhcp21.rz.uni-frankfurt.de) |
| 12:40.00 | *** join/#kde stiffme (n=stiffme@218.83.249.131) |
| 12:40.35 | *** join/#kde hamika (n=hamika@218.19.159.213) |
| 12:40.39 | aantipop | so i could use any gtk style and it should work in kde4 ? |
| 12:41.07 | Jucato | yes because it only affects how gtk apps look. it doesn't affect kde apps |
| 12:41.30 | aantipop | Jucato: then kubuntus gtk-qt-engine is broken |
| 12:41.55 | aantipop | (on hardy..but thats OT) |
| 12:41.57 | Jucato | why? |
| 12:42.30 | aantipop | Jucato: it doesnt work on my machine |
| 12:42.55 | *** join/#kde wftl (n=mgagne@CPE00045a5aa82b-CM00159a417d3c.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) |
| 12:43.01 | crazy | aantipop: since when 'gtk-qt-engine' is ported to kde4 ?:) |
| 12:43.30 | crazy | aantipop: it does only work for kde3 apps with the kde3 version , of course |
| 12:43.33 | Jucato | aantipop: anyway you might want to ask about that in #ubuntu+1 or in #kubuntu... but I think you're expecting it to do something that it doesn't |
| 12:44.04 | aantipop | crazy: i have just been told that gtk apps should look like qt3 apps in kde4 with gtk-qt-engine installed !! |
| 12:44.46 | aantipop | Jucato: did i got this right ? |
| 12:44.52 | *** join/#kde soa2ii (n=soa2ii@i59F54FBE.versanet.de) |
| 12:44.56 | *** join/#kde Aeoris_ (n=Aeoris@32.1.221.87.dynamic.jazztel.es) |
| 12:45.40 | *** join/#kde aleksanteri (n=cogwheel@unaffiliated/aleksanteri) |
| 12:46.14 | aantipop | gtk-qt-engine is something like a "qt-skin" for gtk apps, right ? |
| 12:46.21 | Jucato | [20:39] <Jucato> the reason why GTK apps now don't look like KDE 4 even with gtk-qt-engines is because that engine specifically emulates Qt 3 only <---- I only said what it tries to do... not what it will do on KDE 4 |
| 12:46.53 | juan | how do i restart kdm or atleast a comand to logout(bonus points if it logs me back in) |
| 12:47.12 | aleksanteri | aantipop, it's a gtk engine that uses the qt style |
| 12:47.14 | aantipop | well it doesnt look like kde4 because its styled to look like qt3 |
| 12:47.36 | Jucato | it can't look anything like qt4 or kde4 because it doesn't know about qt4 |
| 12:47.39 | Jucato | it only knows about qt3 |
| 12:47.48 | aantipop | buti got it installed and working in kde3, but in kde4 my gtk apps have the default (ugly) gtk theme |
| 12:48.51 | *** join/#kde MethoS_mobile (n=clemens@p54894B23.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 12:49.40 | Jucato | aw. :( |
| 12:50.54 | Jucato | annma: when's your release party there? |
| 12:51.18 | *** join/#kde cesi (n=raptor@C4415.karlshof.wh.tu-darmstadt.de) |
| 12:51.23 | aantipop | Jucato: this is a screenshot that shows firefox with the default gtk theme, and synaptic with a working gtk-qt-engine (runs as root, dunno why it works there) http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/9607/11oa0.png |
| 12:52.02 | Jucato | aantipop: I will look into it... |
| 12:52.09 | Jucato | I just have to install a gtk app first :P |
| 12:52.18 | Thundercloud | Does anyone here find hotkeys don't work on kde4? |
| 12:52.24 | Thundercloud | When I tried it, I couldn't use my usual hotkeys |
| 12:52.30 | *** join/#kde Fox_1_ (n=Vardan@dsl236-46.netsys.am) |
| 12:52.43 | *** join/#kde DcdDtc (n=gv@dhcp-242.esial.uhp-nancy.fr) |
| 12:52.54 | aantipop | Thundercloud: known problem, it is fixed |
| 12:53.16 | Thundercloud | Good stuff |
| 12:53.19 | *** join/#kde gkiagia (n=gkiagia@client-9-20.wifi.uoc.gr) |
| 12:53.22 | Thundercloud | Now I just need the other drastic known problems I have fixed |
| 12:53.27 | Thundercloud | Then I can begin contemplating using it proper. |
| 12:53.30 | annma | Jucato: 25th and 26th January |
| 12:53.37 | annma | Jucato: still more than 1 week |
| 12:53.43 | Jucato | oh :) |
| 12:53.43 | *** join/#kde Jordain (n=jordan@host86-145-102-51.range86-145.btcentralplus.com) |
| 12:53.44 | *** join/#kde j0tt (n=j@unaffiliated/jott) |
| 12:53.45 | *** join/#kde Aeoris__ (n=Aeoris@123.0.221.87.dynamic.jazztel.es) |
| 12:53.51 | Jucato | annma: have fun :) lots and lots of fun :) |
| 12:54.07 | annma | I'm doing 2 presentations Jucato |
| 12:54.17 | Jucato | wow :) |
| 12:54.49 | *** join/#kde anabain_ (n=prova@152.Red-83-58-88.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 12:57.06 | anabain_ | what should I do in order to remove *all* kde stuff for a user, as if it were created from scratch? |
| 12:57.49 | annma | tar and backup .kde |
| 12:58.03 | annma | if ~/.kde is your KDEHOME |
| 12:58.10 | Jucato | whatever you do, *don't* delete ~/.kde |
| 12:58.51 | *** join/#kde MethoS_mobile (n=clemens@p54894B23.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 12:58.59 | anabain_ | Jucato, why not? I'm on 3.5.8 |
| 12:59.37 | *** join/#kde pumphaus (n=pumphaus@p54AEC5C5.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 12:59.38 | Jucato | because, not only will it delete configuration files (reset), but it will also delete data such as mails, bookmark, appointments, etc |
| 12:59.52 | annma | because you might lose some data anabain_ |
| 13:00.53 | *** join/#kde Zarin (n=cr@124-169-253-135.dyn.iinet.net.au) |
| 13:01.02 | anabain_ | anyway, after backing up, I have to remove .kde, haven't I? |
| 13:02.05 | *** join/#kde tinchovmm (n=tinchovm@host210.201-253-149.telecom.net.ar) |
| 13:02.32 | cb400f | anabain_: simpler would have been to rename .kde to .kde-old -> then restart kde |
| 13:03.32 | *** join/#kde ctibor (n=ctibor@89.203.143.43) |
| 13:06.33 | anabain_ | ok, cb400f but I'm afraid I continue with my insidious problem: soon after logon, I have X and kdm restarted. The problem seems to be related to the X system, as .xsessions errors reports an ICE I/O problem, but guys t debian aren't helpful at all. I've also tried to downgrade to an older debian snapshot, but this doesn't work (apt-get update after putting the proper lines in sources.list and then apt-get install --reinstall all sus |
| 13:06.33 | anabain_ | pect packages, but it doesn't work) |
| 13:06.46 | juan | is there a command to restart kde |
| 13:08.34 | *** join/#kde didkoddd (n=didkoddd@12-218-92-60.client.mchsi.com) |
| 13:10.25 | *** join/#kde Gentle (n=tier@HSI-KBW-091-089-096-075.hsi2.kabelbw.de) |
| 13:13.10 | stdin | juan: generally one logs out and back in to restart kde |
| 13:13.34 | *** join/#kde ris (n=ris@cpc4-bedn1-0-0-cust277.lutn.cable.ntl.com) |
| 13:13.42 | *** join/#kde eNTi (n=nt@85.127.149.54) |
| 13:14.45 | juan | i was trying to write a script and the last step needs restart kde, as ive mounted a new volume over my /home/user |
| 13:16.53 | *** join/#kde hamika (n=hamika@218.19.203.47) |
| 13:17.07 | stdin | there's probably some dbus command to log you out, but logging in would still be manual |
| 13:18.59 | *** join/#kde HanzZ (n=HanzZ@78.108.151.199) |
| 13:19.38 | *** join/#kde draglor (n=draglor@unaffiliated/draglor) |
| 13:20.19 | *** join/#kde bjantscher (n=bjantsch@M2564P014.adsl.highway.telekom.at) |
| 13:20.23 | *** join/#kde marc_ (n=marc@ARennes-752-1-5-24.w90-12.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 13:21.46 | *** join/#kde tackat (n=tackat@exit.credativ.com) |
| 13:23.45 | *** join/#kde Seiya (i=Seiya@176.sub-75-222-104.myvzw.com) |
| 13:24.27 | *** join/#kde Seiya[asahi] (i=Seiya@80.sub-75-222-226.myvzw.com) |
| 13:24.52 | *** join/#kde Zarin (n=cr@124-169-253-135.dyn.iinet.net.au) |
| 13:27.46 | *** join/#kde kwonqi (n=warren@eu85-10-124-164.adsl.euphonynet.be) |
| 13:27.52 | kwonqi | hello |
| 13:28.15 | kwonqi | someone noticed that the plastik theme in kde4 is ugly? the windows decoration is too huge? |
| 13:28.46 | *** join/#kde Zarin (n=cr@124-169-253-135.dyn.iinet.net.au) |
| 13:29.21 | *** join/#kde heavenquake (n=halfdan@unaffiliated/heavenquake) |
| 13:30.05 | *** part/#kde heavenquake (n=halfdan@unaffiliated/heavenquake) |
| 13:30.11 | kwonqi | nobody? |
| 13:31.56 | *** join/#kde mallize (n=clemenml@129.59.96.253) |
| 13:32.36 | *** join/#kde agnitio (n=magnus@h-91-126-122-254.wholesale.rp80.se) |
| 13:32.53 | *** join/#kde Sho_ (i=ehs1@kde/hein) |
| 13:34.17 | ctibor | Hi, is there a way to tell konqueror in kde4 to refresh (i suppose via dbus...) |
| 13:34.19 | ctibor | ? |
| 13:34.40 | *** join/#kde islamguidedotcom (n=islamgui@cm107.sigma190.maxonline.com.sg) |
| 13:35.00 | *** join/#kde root (n=root@maya.lpr.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de) |
| 13:35.19 | kwonqi | f5 ? |
| 13:35.53 | *** join/#kde rdieter (n=rdieter@sting.unl.edu) |
| 13:36.26 | ctibor | Yes. But if I want to do it with script? That is what i meant |
| 13:36.41 | kwonqi | ok sorry |
| 13:36.48 | kwonqi | dunno sorry |
| 13:38.52 | *** join/#kde Wofl (n=nils@ip68-97-30-144.ok.ok.cox.net) |
| 13:38.56 | *** join/#kde Floopy (n=Floopy@eta91-1-82-227-10-76.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 13:39.09 | *** join/#kde EnigmuS (n=kde-deve@rng31-2-88-169-200-50.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 13:40.14 | *** join/#kde Wofl (n=nils@ip68-97-30-144.ok.ok.cox.net) |
| 13:40.17 | Sho_ | deitarion: True translucency for Yakuake's terminal background is coming in 4.0.1 rather than 4.1 btw; I committed support for that |
| 13:40.44 | SSJ_GZ | ctibor: There's definitely a reload actions exposed via dbus, but I don't know dbus syntax well enough to trigger it. |
| 13:40.47 | SSJ_GZ | -s |
| 13:42.19 | *** join/#kde spawn57 (n=sunil@n219079099053.netvigator.com) |
| 13:42.37 | annma | ctibor: use qdbusviewer to find out about dbus |
| 13:43.36 | *** join/#kde heanol (i=heanol@karantan.org) |
| 13:45.03 | *** join/#kde aleksanteri (n=cogwheel@unaffiliated/aleksanteri) |
| 13:45.49 | kwonqi | sorry if already asked but someone think resizing the panel will be available in kde 4.0.1?? |
| 13:45.57 | ctibor | annma: Thanks, found dbus-monitor so far but it seems useless :-) |
| 13:47.01 | SSJ_GZ | kwonqi: The Plasma devs are investigating the possibility of putting this into a 4.0.x update. No guarantees, though. |
| 13:47.13 | kwonqi | ok |
| 13:47.26 | *** join/#kde eddys (n=eddys@202.155.107.19) |
| 13:47.28 | kwonqi | i heard the panel shouldbe raptor but it isn't, is it right? |
| 13:47.41 | pinotree | no |
| 13:47.52 | SSJ_GZ | kwonqi: No, Raptor is a launcher, not a panel. |
| 13:48.03 | kwonqi | but will we one day be able to have a panel like kicker? |
| 13:48.05 | kwonqi | ok |
| 13:48.11 | SSJ_GZ | kwonqi: It's future is also undecided. |
| 13:48.30 | SSJ_GZ | kwonqi: "like kicker"? |
| 13:48.45 | kwonqi | adding applets to the bar moving resizing... |
| 13:48.49 | kwonqi | is it planned? |
| 13:48.55 | SSJ_GZ | kwonqi: Of course. |
| 13:48.57 | *** join/#kde MethoS_mobile (n=clemens@p54894B23.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 13:49.01 | kwonqi | ok :D |
| 13:49.09 | kwonqi | and what about incons on desktop? |
| 13:49.32 | *** join/#kde visik7 (n=dksakd@unaffiliated/visik7) |
| 13:49.45 | *** join/#kde heanol (i=heanol@karantan.org) |
| 13:49.52 | *** join/#kde wallyatoz (n=wallyato@251.046.dsl.pth.iprimus.net.au) |
| 13:50.36 | SSJ_GZ | kwonqi: Probably. aseigo is not a fan of using the desktop as a ~/Desktop dumping ground, but this functionality will likely be developed just because many people seem to want it. |
| 13:50.55 | *** join/#kde tobiwae (n=tobiwae@p508B2407.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 13:51.05 | kwonqi | ok |
| 13:51.12 | *** part/#kde soulflare (n=tobiwae@p508B2407.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 13:51.26 | kwonqi | i think it would be better... |
| 13:51.29 | SSJ_GZ | kwonqi: Personally, I'm hoping to just have a plasmoid that takes care of this and restricts icons to a specified portion of the desktop rather than the current approaches. |
| 13:52.00 | SSJ_GZ | kwonqi: You could then have the contents of multiple folders on your desktop, arranged however you want them. |
| 13:52.03 | kwonqi | but icons like a plasmoid is a bit stupid |
| 13:52.16 | SSJ_GZ | kwonqi: How so? |
| 13:52.21 | *** part/#kde heanol (i=heanol@karantan.org) |
| 13:52.44 | kwonqi | simple displacy icons not like a plasmoid |
| 13:52.59 | *** join/#kde Gray9Mar (i=surf@gateway/tor/x-5549ba09353438ed) |
| 13:53.24 | SSJ_GZ | kwonqi: That requires further special-casing of code, which is inelegant. |
| 13:53.44 | kwonqi | ok |
| 13:53.54 | *** join/#kde martijn (n=martijn@188.Red-213-97-48.staticIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 13:53.57 | kwonqi | but the actual icons ar elinks, right? |
| 13:54.03 | *** part/#kde martijn (n=martijn@188.Red-213-97-48.staticIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 13:54.05 | kwonqi | if you remove they stay on desktop |
| 13:54.27 | SSJ_GZ | kwonqi: I don't understand what you mean :) |
| 13:54.45 | *** join/#kde Pitmairen_ (n=pitmaire@c0DA045C1.dhcp.bluecom.no) |
| 13:54.50 | kwonqi | if you remove an icon (plasmoid) from the desktop |
| 13:55.02 | kwonqi | they are still existing, they're not removed |
| 13:55.13 | kwonqi | i'm talking about folders |
| 13:55.52 | SSJ_GZ | kwonqi: You mean if you delete an icon, the represented file still exists on disk? |
| 13:57.20 | soa2ii | Hi there... if I try to open an eps image with KGhostView I get this error: |
| 13:57.21 | soa2ii | Unknown device: x11 |
| 13:57.21 | soa2ii | Unrecoverable error: undefined in .uninstallpagedevice |
| 13:57.21 | soa2ii | Operand stack: |
| 13:57.21 | soa2ii | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:57.28 | soa2ii | Can someone help me there? |
| 13:58.48 | annma | where is the image stored? |
| 14:02.17 | annma | soa2ii: where is the eps stored? |
| 14:02.33 | soa2ii | Here, on my disk |
| 14:04.15 | ctibor | SSJ_GZ, annma: I have found qdbusviewer and the reload thingy, but I am completely clueless on how to compose command from those values. Is there any doc on it? |
| 14:05.09 | *** join/#kde WindowsUninstall (n=WindowsU@host250-183-dynamic.17-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 14:05.14 | *** join/#kde root (n=root@c210-49-24-180.mirnd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au) |
| 14:05.48 | annma | probably on dbus website |
| 14:05.51 | SSJ_GZ | ctibor: That's where I got stuck, too :) |
| 14:05.56 | annma | I never had time to find out ctibor |
| 14:06.03 | *** join/#kde emu (n=emu@pD9EB673C.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 14:06.12 | ctibor | http://dbus.freedesktop.org/doc/dbus-tutorial.html - like this? :-) |
| 14:06.21 | annma | ctibor: so if you have time I suggest you teach us all when you find out |
| 14:06.24 | annma | yes |
| 14:06.50 | *** join/#kde NeanT (n=user@89.122.244.236) |
| 14:06.51 | *** join/#kde Gunirus (n=Gunirus@unaffiliated/Gunirus) |
| 14:07.15 | *** join/#kde vorian (n=steve@ubuntu/member/pdpc.supporter.active.Vorian) |
| 14:08.22 | ctibor | seems like it is too difficult for me ;-) I a poor law student at the end of all ;-) |
| 14:09.06 | *** part/#kde cyt (n=cyt@linux.cs.ccu.edu.tw) |
| 14:10.22 | *** join/#kde PT12 (n=peter@cm252.delta144.maxonline.com.sg) |
| 14:11.57 | *** join/#kde laith (n=laith@85.154.44.139) |
| 14:12.26 | *** join/#kde rmizuuti (n=rmizuuti@201.49.165.105) |
| 14:14.30 | *** join/#kde rotini (n=cschimol@64.221.62.162.ptr.us.xo.net) |
| 14:16.00 | *** join/#kde blasenfisch (n=chatzill@p5B3DFC71.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 14:16.05 | annma | ctibor: I found an example |
| 14:16.09 | annma | dbus-send --dest='org.gnome.Rhythmbox' /org/gnome/Rhythmbox/Player org.gnome.Rhythmbox.Player.next |
| 14:16.26 | annma | that's for Rhythmbox to make it play the next track |
| 14:16.34 | blasenfisch | hello can somebody say me the exact url for the kde4 for my suse 10.2 system |
| 14:16.46 | annma | blasenfisch: #suse can |
| 14:17.48 | *** join/#kde frostmourne (n=frostmou@218.248.47.54) |
| 14:18.10 | deitarion | Sho_: Glad to hear it. :) |
| 14:18.19 | *** join/#kde sabayonlive-2332 (n=sabayonu@ppp89-110-14-184.pppoe.avangarddsl.ru) |
| 14:19.36 | *** join/#kde Alethes (n=alethes@gw.mindoka.com) |
| 14:19.45 | *** join/#kde BCMM (n=bcmm@unaffiliated/bcmm) |
| 14:20.07 | *** join/#kde roodie (n=wolverin@cp82868-b.dbsch1.nb.home.nl) |
| 14:21.43 | *** join/#kde newbie404 (n=daniel@ppp-88-217-86-24.dynamic.mnet-online.de) |
| 14:21.58 | *** join/#kde Seiya (n=Seiya@64.130.227.190) |
| 14:22.10 | *** part/#kde newbie404 (n=daniel@ppp-88-217-86-24.dynamic.mnet-online.de) |
| 14:23.52 | *** join/#kde oversize (n=schmidtm@dslb-084-058-120-067.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 14:25.16 | *** join/#kde jaegermeister (n=jaegerme@p54BC0760.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 14:27.07 | padde | how do I change the mouse cursor size in kde? or why doesn't it inherit the settings from X? when i hover the cursor over a KDE application, i get the 'normal' size |
| 14:27.13 | Sho_ | deitarion: Unfortunately there's a bug in kwin's Blur effect right now that makes it not work with certain windows, Yakuake among them, but hopefully that will be fixed in 4.0.x too - transluency+blur is a lot nicer than plain :) |
| 14:27.26 | *** join/#kde nik11 (n=dragoon@cht33-1-82-228-78-181.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 14:27.29 | *** join/#kde argonl (i=beezle@bas11-toronto12-1088915673.dsl.bell.ca) |
| 14:27.58 | deitarion | Sho_: Agreed. |
| 14:28.18 | ctibor | annma: |
| 14:28.18 | ctibor | dbus-send --print-reply --dest=org.kde.konqueror-15139 /konqueror/konqueror_MainWindow_1/actions/reload_all_tabs com.trolltech.Qt.QAction.SetOn |
| 14:28.18 | ctibor | Error org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.UnknownInterface: No such interface 'com.trolltech.Qt.QAction' at object path '/konqueror/konqueror_MainWindow_1/actions/reload_all_tabs' |
| 14:28.19 | ctibor | :-( |
| 14:28.46 | *** join/#kde wftl (n=mgagne@CPE00045a5aa82b-CM00159a417d3c.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) |
| 14:29.43 | spawn57 | hi guys, can you help me out. I downloaded the code for kvkbd and opened it in KDevelop, but everytime I try to build it, it gives me a permssion denied error |
| 14:30.40 | *** join/#kde Gunirus_ (n=Gunirus@ip-81-11-198-225.dsl.scarlet.be) |
| 14:31.14 | pinotree | ctibor: suggestion: use qdbus |
| 14:31.32 | pinotree | and qdbusviewer to graphically browse |
| 14:32.55 | annma | pinotree: yes but how to get the call from qdbusviewer? |
| 14:33.07 | annma | we would like the script |
| 14:33.10 | *** join/#kde t_s_o (n=tso@179.84-49-131.nextgentel.com) |
| 14:33.23 | annma | spawn57: then look at your permissions |
| 14:33.40 | annma | spawn57: what permission? |
| 14:33.52 | *** join/#kde johnsen (n=johnsen@pc-10-249.skjoldhoej.dk) |
| 14:33.59 | spawn57 | they're mostly read permissions |
| 14:34.26 | spawn57 | it says permission denied on 'configure' but I think I added executable permsisions to it |
| 14:34.40 | johnsen | What is the name of the gentoo kde channel? :) |
| 14:34.42 | annma | did you get the code as another user or something? |
| 14:34.43 | *** join/#kde smacnay (n=smacnay@bas3-kitchener06-1096642068.dsl.bell.ca) |
| 14:34.49 | spawn57 | ah no wait it didn't .. |
| 14:35.28 | smacnay | when amarok closes, is it supposed to leave an amarokapp instance running? |
| 14:35.28 | spawn57 | oki ..i did but it's not stsaying.. |
| 14:36.50 | annma | smacnay: yes, until you QUIT it |
| 14:37.29 | smacnay | let me try again... I did use "engage - quit" |
| 14:37.32 | ctibor | pinotree thanks |
| 14:37.39 | hdh | johnsen: I hear it's #gentoo-kde |
| 14:38.01 | *** join/#kde gardo (n=gardo@121.97.142.167) |
| 14:38.02 | smacnay | h, ctl-q works well |
| 14:38.29 | *** join/#kde charley_ (n=charley@ACBD0229.ipt.aol.com) |
| 14:40.40 | *** join/#kde profoX` (n=wesley@ubuntu/member/profox) |
| 14:43.08 | *** join/#kde sherman1 (n=sherman@83.102.210.52) |
| 14:45.15 | Shaman` | http://www.sun.com/aboutsun/pr/2008-01/sunflash.20080116.1.xml |
| 14:45.29 | *** join/#kde igli (n=igli@82.153.79.105) |
| 14:45.55 | *** join/#kde polz (n=polz@ozone.rtvslo.si) |
| 14:47.03 | *** part/#kde igli (n=igli@unaffiliated/igli) |
| 14:47.40 | *** join/#kde sabayonlive-2836 (n=sabayonu@125.37.174.151) |
| 14:52.04 | *** join/#kde dwinslow (n=david@cpe-66-108-80-238.nyc.res.rr.com) |
| 14:52.06 | spawn57 | annma: when I do chmod +x configure, it permissions don't seem to stay |
| 14:53.25 | ctibor | pinotree: http://pastebin.com/m1a98f8c0 - still some error I can't solve |
| 14:53.50 | *** join/#kde BP{k} (n=michiel@212.248.241.213) |
| 14:54.17 | pinotree | qdbus org.kde.konqueror-15139 /konqueror/konqueror_MainWindow_1/actions/reload_all_tabs setOn true |
| 14:55.12 | *** join/#kde liugw (n=liugw@221.221.156.106) |
| 14:55.26 | ctibor | pinotree: Thanks, tried something similar, but bad syntax.. |
| 14:55.34 | ctibor | now it is working ;-) |
| 14:55.59 | *** join/#kde fabrice_ (n=fabrice@tro83-3-88-168-201-238.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 14:57.22 | *** join/#kde Ezeta (n=kde-deve@rng31-2-88-169-200-50.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 14:58.00 | *** join/#kde t|zz (n=tizz@84-75-240-227.dclient.hispeed.ch) |
| 14:58.51 | *** join/#kde BP{k} (n=michiel@212.248.241.213) |
| 14:59.07 | *** join/#kde cyber_fusion (n=c@194.65.5.235) |
| 14:59.13 | *** join/#kde [Ksirk] (n=kde-deve@rng31-2-88-169-200-50.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 14:59.59 | *** join/#kde [Ksirk] (n=kde-deve@rng31-2-88-169-200-50.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 15:00.19 | *** join/#kde [Ksirk]Ezeta (n=kde-deve@rng31-2-88-169-200-50.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 15:00.27 | *** join/#kde Smooph (n=Smooph@riedhcp21.rz.uni-frankfurt.de) |
| 15:01.24 | *** join/#kde vbgunz (n=vbgunz@217-98.127-70.tampabay.res.rr.com) |
| 15:03.28 | *** join/#kde thewhitepelican (n=abe@24-117-17-254.cpe.cableone.net) |
| 15:03.47 | fabrice_ | hi, is there any suse user please ? |
| 15:03.57 | pinotree | fabrice_: #opensuse |
| 15:04.22 | thewhitepelican | is there anyway to create an amarok playlist from a kde project file? |
| 15:04.24 | fabrice_ | ok |
| 15:04.30 | ctibor | hm... but now to find the proper method to get the page reloaded... |
| 15:04.33 | pinotree | thewhitepelican: ? |
| 15:04.33 | *** join/#kde ponto (n=ponto@bg-1.or.uni-bonn.de) |
| 15:04.34 | thewhitepelican | er make that a k3b project file |
| 15:04.42 | thewhitepelican | yes pinotree |
| 15:05.03 | *** part/#kde sherman1 (n=sherman@83.102.210.52) |
| 15:05.06 | pinotree | ah, no idea; you might want to ask in #amarok... |
| 15:06.43 | thewhitepelican | ty, I will |
| 15:08.24 | *** join/#kde MethoS- (n=clemens@pD955F2DB.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 15:09.34 | *** join/#kde FFS (n=MaNi@dsl-245-10-126.telkomadsl.co.za) |
| 15:09.48 | *** join/#kde ELITE_x (i=elite@dsl54001E55.pool.t-online.hu) |
| 15:10.01 | ELITE_x | hi |
| 15:11.00 | *** join/#kde mikkoc (n=slacker@host74-47-dynamic.58-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 15:11.33 | *** part/#kde kayo (n=kayo@189.27.15.54.adsl.gvt.net.br) |
| 15:14.48 | ctibor | qdbus org.kde.konqueror-15139 /konqueror/konqueror_MainWindow_1/actions/reload_all_tabs setOn true - does'nt make konqueror page reloaded... seems like com.trolltech.Qt.QAction interfaces are not what I want |
| 15:15.09 | *** part/#kde dwinslow (n=david@cpe-66-108-80-238.nyc.res.rr.com) |
| 15:15.10 | *** join/#kde insulina (n=insulina@bl5-149-25.dsl.telepac.pt) |
| 15:15.15 | *** join/#kde nitiniu (n=mirshafi@84-217-160-164.tn.glocalnet.net) |
| 15:15.33 | ctibor | qdbus org.kde.konqueror-15139 /konqueror/konqueror_MainWindow_1/actions/reload_all_tabs trigger |
| 15:15.42 | ctibor | That does it! yeepee :-) |
| 15:16.37 | fabrice_ | pinotree: no one answers in these channels |
| 15:17.19 | pinotree | fabrice_: we cannot help aout suse stuff |
| 15:18.23 | fabrice_ | pinotree: well i was wondering when i supposed to be next version of kde4 ? |
| 15:18.51 | *** join/#kde kayo_ (n=kayo@189.27.0.4.adsl.gvt.net.br) |
| 15:19.32 | *** join/#kde tcw_ (n=tcw@cm236.gamma33.maxonline.com.sg) |
| 15:20.00 | *** join/#kde hasenfrosch (n=chatzill@p5B3DFC71.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 15:20.09 | cb400f | fabrice_: 4.0.1 will presumably be early February.. 4.1.0 will presumably be mid July |
| 15:20.11 | pinotree | around start of february for kde 4.0.1 |
| 15:20.12 | *** join/#kde StormByte (n=kvirc@84.120.226.34.dyn.user.ono.com) |
| 15:20.14 | StormByte | hi |
| 15:20.26 | hasenfrosch | hello |
| 15:20.28 | pinotree | cb400f: 4.1 is not decided yet |
| 15:20.43 | fabrice_ | cb400f: thks a lot ;) |
| 15:20.50 | hasenfrosch | i updated kde 4 today |
| 15:20.51 | annma | ctibor: well done! |
| 15:20.52 | cb400f | nah, but it was discussed.. and looked like people like that date |
| 15:20.54 | hasenfrosch | but nothing happend |
| 15:21.17 | cb400f | like.. May |
| 15:21.21 | hasenfrosch | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/KDE4/openSUSE_10.2/ |
| 15:21.26 | hasenfrosch | i took this url |
| 15:21.39 | *** join/#kde saini (n=saini@proxy.iiit.ac.in) |
| 15:22.24 | cb400f | hasenfrosch: you should prolly ask SUSE specific questions in #suse.. but SUSE is having some problems with the redirector these days due to a hardware failure |
| 15:22.39 | cb400f | .. so either wait a little.. or use a mirror.. |
| 15:22.52 | hasenfrosch | i didn't find any mirror |
| 15:22.54 | *** join/#kde aroedl (n=aroedl@brln-4db92fc0.pool.einsundeins.de) |
| 15:23.00 | pinotree | hasenfrosch: → #opensuse please |
| 15:23.16 | ctibor | annma: And it was not that difficult thanks to pinotree :-) |
| 15:23.17 | *** part/#kde saini (n=saini@proxy.iiit.ac.in) |
| 15:23.34 | *** join/#kde saini (n=saini@proxy.iiit.ac.in) |
| 15:23.35 | SSJ_GZ | pinotree: Any major mistakes here that you can see? http://software-libre.rudd-o.com/KDE_4.0.0_emergency_FAQ#When_is_the_Next_Release_in_the_KDE4_Series.3F |
| 15:23.47 | *** part/#kde saini (n=saini@proxy.iiit.ac.in) |
| 15:24.14 | pinotree | April release is really insane |
| 15:24.27 | pinotree | and june is out of question either |
| 15:24.35 | SSJ_GZ | pinotree: Yup, but it was proposed at some point. |
| 15:24.40 | JordanC | Man, you dudes need to relax a little :D |
| 15:24.46 | StormByte | I have a question: Is kde 4.0 considered "stable" enough? or just a release to simplify and help the port proccess? |
| 15:24.46 | SSJ_GZ | pinotree: What woud you suggest? |
| 15:24.59 | *** join/#kde Worf (n=worf@84.119.63.24) |
| 15:25.05 | pinotree | SSJ_GZ: the lower bound is july, the upper one is september (both inclusive) |
| 15:25.54 | SSJ_GZ | pinotree: OK, fixed - thanks! |
| 15:26.49 | *** join/#kde rami__ (n=rami@87.109.0.171) |
| 15:27.04 | *** join/#kde troy_ (n=troy@wnpgmb014uw-ad04-243-73.dynamic.mts.net) |
| 15:27.20 | *** join/#kde ServerSide (n=home_deb@77.197.163.19) |
| 15:28.04 | StormByte | I see, kde4.0 "eat your children" but I don't have hehe :D |
| 15:28.24 | SSJ_GZ | StormByte: Pets? |
| 15:29.42 | StormByte | hehehe yep :).. it should say, kde eats you! |
| 15:29.46 | StormByte | or bites |
| 15:29.47 | StormByte | hehe |
| 15:29.58 | Jucato | kde eats bytes... |
| 15:30.30 | *** join/#kde meister_ (n=meister@CPE001310d428f3-CM001bd7ac2782.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) |
| 15:33.03 | *** join/#kde blendtux (n=wstudio@ip56500490.direct-adsl.nl) |
| 15:34.04 | *** join/#kde MethoS- (n=clemens@pD955F2DB.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 15:36.04 | *** join/#kde kunal_ (n=kunal@lawn-128-61-28-87.lawn.gatech.edu) |
| 15:36.19 | *** join/#kde brink_ (n=brink@cpe-74-70-201-50.nycap.res.rr.com) |
| 15:37.17 | kunal_ | in kde4, how do I add a plasmoid to the taskbar like area? dragging won't help |
| 15:37.46 | *** join/#kde Pitmairen__ (n=pitmaire@cB2B701C3.dhcp.bluecom.no) |
| 15:38.03 | *** join/#kde Chaosguard (n=Chaosgua@p57B553A6.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 15:38.06 | kunal_ | i removed the simple digital clock plasmoid that resides in the taskbar and readded it. but the readdition takes place on the desktop |
| 15:38.27 | *** join/#kde paolo_ (n=paolo@83.139.194.194) |
| 15:38.36 | pinotree | drag directly from the add widgets dialog to the panel |
| 15:39.43 | *** join/#kde tinytony (n=tt@c-88d2e253.03-2013-73746f2.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) |
| 15:39.52 | *** part/#kde Westlin (n=Westlin@trimmasters.com) |
| 15:40.41 | kunal_ | thanks pinotree. that worked. |
| 15:41.02 | kunal_ | but in general, i think this behavior is unorthogonal |
| 15:41.30 | *** join/#kde Smooph (n=Smooph@e180146059.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 15:41.35 | kunal_ | i cannot drag the plasmoid from the desktop but i can do so from the add dialog. IMHO both options should work |
| 15:42.14 | Jucato | and who says it won't in the future? :) |
| 15:42.30 | Jucato | we're just on 4.0... lots can happen still :) |
| 15:43.08 | *** join/#kde ecki (n=ecki@rstk-4dbad01d.pool.einsundeins.de) |
| 15:43.17 | kunal_ | that is cool. i am fine with work in progress. i was only hoping that such a decision hasn't been made already |
| 15:43.19 | *** join/#kde milian (n=milian@p57BB168C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 15:43.33 | *** join/#kde tibi (n=tibi@office.tryllian.com) |
| 15:44.04 | ServerSide | i guess i should install kde4 when i'm not on 3.5, no? |
| 15:44.20 | ServerSide | i mean, when 3.5 isn't run'ed |
| 15:47.43 | cb400f | ServerSide: depends how you install and on which distro.. some can have kde3 and kde4 seamlessly together |
| 15:48.26 | ServerSide | mh, i'm on debian lenny, but i heart that on it both can't be supported, well |
| 15:49.08 | cb400f | think I heard something like that too.. but you should prolly ask in #debian-kde |
| 15:49.32 | Jucato | The fact that Kubuntu (and indirectly openSUSE) is able to have both KDE 4 and KDE 3.5 on the same machine kinda proves that it can be done |
| 15:50.54 | Worf | sure it can be done |
| 15:52.50 | *** join/#kde spawn57 (n=sunil@n219079099053.netvigator.com) |
| 15:54.34 | *** part/#kde AlliedEnvy (n=AlliedEn@150.208.204.114) |
| 15:55.25 | *** join/#kde xlotlu_ (n=john@79.115.57.249) |
| 15:55.30 | *** join/#kde mirshafie (n=mirshafi@84-217-160-164.tn.glocalnet.net) |
| 15:56.15 | *** join/#kde MrDroog (n=fufufu@p54A31A41.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 15:56.43 | Sho_ | Jucato: "indirectly openSUSE"? |
| 15:56.55 | Sho_ | Jucato: Didn't get Kubuntu the patches to accomplish that *from* openSUSE? ;) |
| 15:57.06 | pinotree | (or debian) |
| 15:57.17 | Jucato | openSUSE -> Debian -> Kubuntu |
| 15:57.23 | Jucato | so it was indirect :P |
| 15:57.26 | pinotree | nope |
| 15:57.35 | pinotree | debian did not take fro opensuse |
| 15:57.49 | Jucato | (well that's what Riddell told me so...) |
| 15:57.49 | Sho_ | Jucato: If you had written " The fact that openSUSE (and indirectly Kubuntu)", yes ;) |
| 15:58.00 | Jucato | heh ok ok I get the point :) |
| 16:00.02 | *** join/#kde inkbuntu (n=inkbuntu@201.210.120.235) |
| 16:00.17 | *** join/#kde emu (n=emu@pD9EB673C.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 16:01.07 | *** join/#kde Aceler (n=aceler@aceler.adsl.kis.ru) |
| 16:02.05 | *** join/#kde Q-collective (n=Q-collec@gentoo/contributor/userrep.q-collective) |
| 16:02.42 | *** join/#kde MetaMorfoziS (n=khmhm@3e44b1b2.adsl.enternet.hu) |
| 16:03.08 | *** join/#kde phoenixz (n=phoenixz@201.175.36.100) |
| 16:03.16 | *** join/#kde Chid (n=charley@ACBD0229.ipt.aol.com) |
| 16:03.23 | *** join/#kde xlotlu__ (n=john@79.114.174.91) |
| 16:05.06 | *** join/#kde e0426423 (n=e0426423@pc203.inflab.tuwien.ac.at) |
| 16:05.13 | *** join/#kde trpr (n=ftg2@24-117-49-210.cpe.cableone.net) |
| 16:05.22 | phoenixz | Hi there, Im using KDE 3.5.8 with compiz, and whenever I use open office, the window management of that program is a mess.. windows become maximized and borders are not there, resizing makes window content black until resize is done.. Is this a known problem? is there a fix? |
| 16:05.44 | pinotree | phoenixz: → #compiz-fusion |
| 16:05.52 | pinotree | if you use compiz, compiz is the window manager |
| 16:06.04 | spawn57 | what does this mean "make[2]: *** No rule to make target `kvkbd.o', needed by `kvkbd'. Stop." |
| 16:06.58 | phoenixz | pinotree, fair enough, I was just wondering if this was something in combination with KDE |
| 16:07.27 | *** join/#kde Gunirus (n=Gunirus@unaffiliated/Gunirus) |
| 16:09.12 | *** join/#kde Alethes (n=alethes@gw.mindoka.com) |
| 16:09.51 | *** join/#kde root (n=root@adsl-63-197-144-84.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net) |
| 16:10.14 | *** join/#kde _Angelus_ (n=demon@92.251.81.35) |
| 16:10.45 | *** join/#kde nuonguy (n=nuonguy@c-24-6-175-26.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 16:12.22 | *** join/#kde Floopy (n=Floopy@eta91-1-82-227-10-76.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 16:14.35 | *** join/#kde greniejc (n=greniejc@blm51.iro.umontreal.ca) |
| 16:17.46 | *** join/#kde draglor (n=draglor@unaffiliated/draglor) |
| 16:18.20 | *** join/#kde bianco (n=chatzill@host3-138-dynamic.11-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 16:18.24 | *** join/#kde Liquid_Fire (n=liquidfi@client-145-196.speedy-net.bg) |
| 16:21.04 | *** join/#kde bentob0x (n=laurent@ip-213-49-80-142.dsl.scarlet.be) |
| 16:23.26 | *** join/#kde ReedWood (n=wmader@dslb-084-056-232-149.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 16:23.49 | *** join/#kde profoX` (n=wesley@ubuntu/member/profox) |
| 16:24.04 | ReedWood | is this now the right channel for kde4 questions? |
| 16:24.06 | *** join/#kde jsimonss (n=jsimonss@77-246-204-72.cust.suomicom.fi) |
| 16:24.13 | pinotree | yes |
| 16:24.14 | *** join/#kde erpo (n=erpo@2002:4b6f:2a34:1:213:ceff:fe29:9785) |
| 16:24.47 | ReedWood | ok I am on debian(sid/experimental) and have installed KDE4.0 |
| 16:25.05 | ReedWood | I have every icon on my desktop double or tripple time |
| 16:25.17 | ReedWood | but I habe unchecked the "show icons" radiobox |
| 16:25.22 | pinotree | known kde 4.0.0 bug, will be solved with kde 4.0.1 |
| 16:25.27 | ReedWood | cool |
| 16:25.30 | ReedWood | :) thank xou |
| 16:25.32 | ReedWood | next one... |
| 16:25.52 | meister_ | how do i show a list of packages and blocks that need to be installed/fixed |
| 16:26.04 | ReedWood | shortcuts are not responding any more |
| 16:26.22 | pinotree | meister_: ask in the distro channels |
| 16:26.25 | *** join/#kde kasparaitis (n=kasparai@adsl-67-116-124-222.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net) |
| 16:26.25 | ReedWood | is there a way to figure out why? |
| 16:26.26 | pinotree | *channel |
| 16:26.51 | pinotree | ReedWood: see the "emergency faq" in the topic, there's a faq item for that |
| 16:27.03 | ReedWood | pinotree: ok |
| 16:27.30 | pinotree | (not to be unkind, but this sort of questions are quite frequent these days) |
| 16:27.46 | ReedWood | I feel that the compositing effects are very slow. Is there a howto for setting up xorg. I am using nvidia proprietary drivers. |
| 16:28.26 | *** join/#kde freebse (n=freebse@e177178171.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 16:28.42 | ReedWood | I see, also an item in the emergeny faq |
| 16:29.03 | *** join/#kde amro (n=amro@82.101.184.160) |
| 16:29.18 | *** join/#kde blendtux (n=wstudio@ip56500490.direct-adsl.nl) |
| 16:29.56 | *** join/#kde _caotic_ (n=caotic@129.187.43.42) |
| 16:30.06 | freebse | Hi I need to install KDE4, so I apt-get it, but it does not run on xserver-xgl and 2nd question is why does amarok f.ex. needs kdebase (version3) and all this is confusing. Sorry for asking maybe dumb questions, but I am not a desktop guy really |
| 16:30.44 | freebse | when I start it the desktop is blue, the cursor is there and that is it |
| 16:31.03 | freebse | it is awfull slow |
| 16:31.43 | ReedWood | freebse: amarok is not yet at version 2. So it uses qt3. |
| 16:31.46 | ReedWood | I think |
| 16:32.04 | SSJ_GZ | ReedWood: That's correct :) |
| 16:33.04 | *** join/#kde HS^ (n=HS@cc501335-a.mp1.dr.home.nl) |
| 16:33.15 | freebse | ReedWood: ok, I found out the same with konqueror, ok then this problem is solved |
| 16:33.21 | *** join/#kde AhmedSoliman (n=ahmed@41.234.60.235) |
| 16:33.32 | ELITE_x | weird im using 1.4.8 under kde4 |
| 16:33.38 | ELITE_x | works fin |
| 16:33.40 | freebse | Reedwood: now KDE does not really work it is slow and no panel coming up etc |
| 16:33.41 | ELITE_x | fine* |
| 16:33.47 | *** join/#kde hunt0r (n=hunt0r@dslb-088-064-060-145.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 16:34.08 | freebse | ELITE_x: ya I found out you can, but then it needs kdebase3 running under KDE4 |
| 16:34.19 | ELITE_x | o_O |
| 16:34.23 | freebse | ELITE_x: like running it in Gnomer |
| 16:34.25 | ReedWood | freebse: you are on debian sid I think? |
| 16:34.43 | freebse | Reedwood: I tried debian and also ubuntu |
| 16:35.21 | ReedWood | freebse: ok, I installed kde4 under debian/sid. You habe to enable experiemtal like mentioned in the kde qt debian maintainers website |
| 16:35.34 | *** join/#kde ziabice (n=luca@87.19.144.218) |
| 16:35.36 | ReedWood | I uninstalled the most kde3 stuff to avoid interference |
| 16:35.39 | freebse | the problem ist the xserver I guess, it has xgl enabled, ATI needs this for beryl on Gnome, do I need to run back the xserver to a normal one without xgl |
| 16:36.13 | freebse | ReedWood: I uninstalled everything that says KDE3 first of all |
| 16:36.13 | ReedWood | freebse: I have never used xgl so I am not able to answer this question |
| 16:36.50 | freebse | ReedWood: so you run KDE4 without XGL and it works fine I guess... hm |
| 16:36.58 | ReedWood | yes :) |
| 16:37.04 | ELITE_x | [18:34] <freebse> ELITE_x: ya I found out you can, but then it needs kdebase3 running under KDE4 |
| 16:37.06 | ReedWood | fine for an .0.0 version |
| 16:37.06 | ELITE_x | no |
| 16:37.11 | *** join/#kde Death_Syn (i=deathsyn@deathsyn.com) |
| 16:37.18 | ELITE_x | not need |
| 16:37.37 | freebse | I just want to know if it is possible somehow I dislike disabling it, because it runs allright with Gnome, I would hat to miss it |
| 16:37.46 | Death_Syn | is there any way to enable the old features of konsole, like terminal resizing to common sizes? (80x52) |
| 16:37.55 | freebse | if this is the case I rather do not install KDE4 and stick to my Gnome with XGL |
| 16:38.07 | *** join/#kde Beelze (n=rtr@e182012156.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 16:38.08 | ReedWood | freebse: sorry, I do not know |
| 16:38.10 | Death_Syn | also, how can I move my kpanel? |
| 16:38.16 | Death_Syn | I can't seem to find docs on it :( |
| 16:38.38 | *** join/#kde tlmarker (n=tlmarker@12-218-235-85.client.mchsi.com) |
| 16:38.39 | Death_Syn | or plasma panel, I guess |
| 16:39.08 | SSJ_GZ | Death_Syn: http://software-libre.rudd-o.com/KDE_4.0.0_emergency_FAQ#Why_can.27t_I_auto-hide.2F_resize_the_panel.3F__Can_I_add_a_new_panel.3F |
| 16:39.16 | ELITE_x | only kdebase-kio-plugins need |
| 16:39.25 | Death_Syn | thanks SSJ_GZ |
| 16:39.32 | SSJ_GZ | np |
| 16:39.48 | Death_Syn | ahh |
| 16:39.48 | *** join/#kde Giofni (n=linda@0x5552cc2f.adsl.cybercity.dk) |
| 16:39.55 | Death_Syn | thank the goddess for that |
| 16:40.08 | Death_Syn | I was starting to fear kde4 was becoming gnome like |
| 16:40.16 | SSJ_GZ | Hehe :) |
| 16:41.18 | *** join/#kde olih (n=olih@lns-bzn-48f-81-56-218-88.adsl.proxad.net) |
| 16:41.25 | *** join/#kde Narishma (n=lalala@lit75-1-81-57-34-98.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 16:41.30 | ELITE_x | freebse: why u need kdebase 3 for amarok? |
| 16:42.16 | *** join/#kde aantipop (n=michael@frnk-590eb36a.pool.einsundeins.de) |
| 16:42.24 | *** join/#kde ReedWood (n=wmader@dslb-084-056-232-149.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 16:43.37 | erpo | ELITE_x: amarok hasn't been ported yet. |
| 16:44.03 | ELITE_x | i know |
| 16:44.13 | ELITE_x | but use it under 4 |
| 16:44.28 | ELITE_x | and i doesent have kdebase 3 installed |
| 16:45.06 | *** join/#kde hunt0r (n=hunt0r@dslb-088-064-060-145.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 16:46.40 | *** part/#kde Beineri (n=Beineri@kde/binner) |
| 16:46.40 | *** join/#kde mirshafie (n=mirshafi@84-217-165-73.tn.glocalnet.net) |
| 16:46.46 | erpo | *shrug* I'm a gnome guy usually. I'm just checking out KDE 4. |
| 16:46.56 | freebse | hm when I try to install amarok via aptget it tells me it needs kdebase3 |
| 16:47.22 | *** join/#kde lxk (n=lxk@87.103.197-99.xdsl.ab.ru) |
| 16:47.27 | freebse | erpo: this is what I wanted to do too, but it does take xgl I guess it hangs and does not really start |
| 16:47.59 | *** join/#kde ReedWood (n=wmader@dslb-084-056-232-149.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 16:48.17 | erpo | freebse: I don't think KDE4 requires xgl. |
| 16:48.24 | erpo | freebse: But I have a nvidia card so it's not a problem. |
| 16:48.25 | *** join/#kde k1lumin4t1 (n=sortadi@unaffiliated/k1lumin4t1) |
| 16:48.31 | lxk | Hi there. How can i fix a kicker bug: after login it freezes for about 5-7 sec when i click (or mousemove abobe) K menu button ? Distro: openSuSE 10.3 |
| 16:48.33 | freebse | I just want someone to confirm that xserver-xgl and KDE4 do not work together. The same problem was with KDE3, I can run apps under gnome, but KDE3 was just slow and graphics were all messed up etc |
| 16:49.24 | *** join/#kde mluser-work (n=mluser-w@208.178.12.226) |
| 16:49.29 | freebse | erpo: ja I got ATI :) I know but this is a laptop so I cannot change it, I don't want to mess up gnome with all the effects really just to get KDE4 running without xgl |
| 16:49.29 | *** join/#kde hacosta (n=hacosta@131.178.109.201) |
| 16:49.29 | blendtux | guys i have a strange problem with kmail, the time that kmail says that a certain mail has arrived is wrong |
| 16:49.30 | Jucato | freebse: it seems to need kdebase for the amarok konqueror sidebar (optional dependency, but most binary distros enable it) |
| 16:49.57 | erpo | freebse: Maybe try Xephyr? |
| 16:50.02 | blendtux | my local time is 17.48 at thhe moment, and kmail is saying t |
| 16:50.10 | *** join/#kde blueTUX (n=kevin@cpe-24-209-63-138.neo.res.rr.com) |
| 16:50.26 | *** join/#kde bluesceada (n=itsjustm@unaffiliated/bluesceada) |
| 16:50.32 | blendtux | that the mail is send at 8.50 in the morning while that cant be |
| 16:51.22 | erpo | blendtux: AFAIK, the "date" displayed when you look at an email is set by the sender at the time that it's sent. |
| 16:51.55 | blendtux | even when i send a mail to my self the date is not correct |
| 16:52.04 | freebse | erpo: na if I give it a try I would use xserver and that is it... I just don't want to mess up my system really, it is running gnome all right, and I use it for work... so messing it up is not really an option |
| 16:52.18 | ELITE_x | freebse: http://elitepicturehost.com/viewpic.php?code=a4174ca0e0569c616ac1bc79caf2dad4 |
| 16:52.33 | freebse | guys I tell you but you allready know, never get ATI :) |
| 16:52.47 | ELITE_x | kik ATI |
| 16:52.48 | *** join/#kde AhmedAbdalla (n=neo@84.36.186.185) |
| 16:53.07 | erpo | freebse: If you use Xephyr then you don't have to worry about changing your main X server. |
| 16:53.08 | blendtux | even when i send a mail to my self the date is not correct erpo, so i guess it must something else, besides it cant be that all people have a wrong date in there application |
| 16:53.40 | lxk | any ideas about kicker? |
| 16:54.00 | pinotree | lxk: kde 3.5? |
| 16:54.14 | lxk | 3.5.8 |
| 16:54.24 | freebse | erpo: ya thx a lot, but I guess I just gonna give up checking out KDE4... too much pain allready :) anyway thx a lot |
| 16:54.36 | pinotree | is it the bug menu with tabs? |
| 16:54.38 | pinotree | *big |
| 16:54.46 | ELITE_x | freebse: try 8800 gtx |
| 16:54.54 | ELITE_x | nice card |
| 16:55.11 | Jucato | pinotree: [00:48] <lxk> Hi there. How can i fix a kicker bug: after login it freezes for about 5-7 sec when i click (or mousemove abobe) K menu button ? Distro: openSuSE 10.3 |
| 16:55.46 | freebse | ELITE_x: this is a laptop :) |
| 16:55.50 | pinotree | ok, then #opensuse, as we are not responsible for the kde3 version of kickoff (the opensuse's kde3 menu) |
| 16:56.02 | *** join/#kde profoX_ (n=wesley@ubuntu/member/profox) |
| 16:56.39 | *** join/#kde Nate_Grey (n=byte@c-68-48-224-86.hsd1.md.comcast.net) |
| 16:56.58 | lxk | oh! i like it! #suse -> #kde, #kde->#opensuse. anywhay thanx |
| 16:57.41 | freebse | ELITE_x: http://elitepicturehost.com/viewpic.php?code=75fe5b506701b768d07e9b60df936619 |
| 16:58.09 | Jucato | lxk: tell them to support their own creations better and take responsibility for it :D |
| 16:58.10 | freebse | ELITE_x: it wants to install kdebase and kdesktop... the same under sid and also Slackware |
| 16:58.18 | ELITE_x | weird |
| 16:58.30 | ELITE_x | upgrade to unstable |
| 16:58.35 | ELITE_x | :P |
| 16:58.38 | freebse | ELITE_x: ya just what I thought |
| 16:58.49 | lxk | Jucato: ok, i`ll try :)) |
| 16:58.57 | freebse | ELITE_x: same also with BSD |
| 16:59.03 | ELITE_x | ohh |
| 16:59.17 | Jucato | freebse: did you see what I wrote above about amarok and kdebase? |
| 16:59.27 | *** join/#kde truent (n=truent@69.45.189.73) |
| 17:00.20 | freebse | Jucato: Ya I have seen it, with konqueror for the sidebar, but does this explain why ELITE_x don't need it or do we miss something |
| 17:00.29 | Jucato | hm... |
| 17:00.41 | *** join/#kde Pinaraf (n=moi@ALille-251-1-40-114.w82-127.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 17:00.54 | *** join/#kde maki_d (n=maki@79.125.152.213) |
| 17:00.59 | freebse | does not really matter, I am going to install what it says, the xgl thing is more my problem really |
| 17:01.10 | Jucato | actually it might also be for something else... oh well.. best ask the devs in #amarok... but usually packagers would know better than us (usually...) |
| 17:01.22 | pinotree | #suse is sending here too many people, lately |
| 17:01.34 | Jucato | kdebase ain't that big anyway... |
| 17:01.43 | pinotree | duuh, i don't want to go there and start screaming to those guys, uff |
| 17:01.50 | ELITE_x | lol |
| 17:02.04 | Jucato | :D |
| 17:02.13 | freebse | Jucato: I would if it would be really important to me, they are working on a version 2 anyways, all programs are gonna work without kdebase3 in the future anyway |
| 17:02.22 | *** join/#kde janis (n=janis@host68.190-136-38.telecom.net.ar) |
| 17:02.30 | *** join/#kde mxttie|work (n=mxttie@134.58.179.6) |
| 17:02.35 | *** join/#kde sebbar (n=sebbar@p5B156EC0.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 17:02.38 | Jucato | freebse: in a not so distant but still a bit distant future maybe |
| 17:02.54 | freebse | Jucato: like I said, I was about to install it, it is no major problem, just weird why I need it and EliteX does not |
| 17:03.00 | *** join/#kde bentob0x (n=laurent@ip-213-49-80-142.dsl.scarlet.be) |
| 17:03.03 | *** join/#kde chris|6S (n=digitald@xdsl-87-78-165-47.netcologne.de) |
| 17:03.08 | *** join/#kde Thug-life (n=i@5ac4c4f5.bb.sky.com) |
| 17:03.10 | ELITE_x | just read my name |
| 17:03.11 | Jucato | freebse: looky they have nice explanations :) http://amarok.kde.org/wiki/Requirements |
| 17:03.14 | ELITE_x | tss tss |
| 17:03.29 | Jucato | ELITE_x: what distro? |
| 17:03.33 | ELITE_x | debian |
| 17:03.44 | pinotree | lxk: uuuh, read http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=153682 |
| 17:03.54 | pinotree | (a bug that will go soon to /dev/null) |
| 17:04.09 | Jucato | ELITE_x: you don't have kdebase3 even with amarok? hm.. strange :) |
| 17:04.15 | ELITE_x | nope |
| 17:04.17 | freebse | erpo: thx I did install that it is working... so it is really not working with xserver-xgl... |
| 17:04.33 | *** part/#kde janis (n=janis@host68.190-136-38.telecom.net.ar) |
| 17:04.34 | freebse | Jucato: did you see his screenshot he postet |
| 17:04.46 | Jucato | checking |
| 17:05.00 | freebse | Jucato: I have sid, and he is running unstable maybe this is the case |
| 17:05.06 | lxk | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:05.33 | ELITE_x | own compiled kernel |
| 17:05.37 | Jucato | ELITE_x: "dpkg -l | grep kdebase" returns nothing? |
| 17:05.46 | Jucato | heh wicked :) |
| 17:06.12 | Jucato | well, #debian-kde might know about this better... but as far as amarok is concerned, it's only an optional depends |
| 17:06.19 | freebse | ELITE_x: me too own kernel :) maybe this is the prob as well :) na guess we never find out |
| 17:06.22 | ELITE_x | Jucato: yes |
| 17:06.25 | ELITE_x | many packs |
| 17:06.26 | ELITE_x | :) |
| 17:06.32 | ELITE_x | with version 4.0.1 |
| 17:06.34 | ELITE_x | :P |
| 17:06.48 | *** part/#kde Death_Syn (i=deathsyn@deathsyn.com) |
| 17:06.49 | ELITE_x | only 1 pack what i daid before |
| 17:06.54 | ELITE_x | said* |
| 17:07.04 | Jucato | freebse: if you're really curious enough, you can ask in the #debian-kde channels (Freenode and OFTC) :D |
| 17:07.14 | ELITE_x | kdebase-kio-plugins 4:3.5.8 |
| 17:07.22 | *** join/#kde fenghshaun (n=fengshau@blk-215-85-18.eastlink.ca) |
| 17:07.32 | freebse | ELITE_x: I tried to install the source and configure was running through, so I guess it does no need kdebase3... I could install it from source without KDE3 |
| 17:07.40 | Jucato | ELITE_x: that should, in turn, pull in kdesktop |
| 17:08.22 | freebse | Jucato: Like I said I am not really wasting time on a small problem, that actually is no problem, well install kdebase3 if the thing wants to, no prob at all |
| 17:08.28 | Jucato | :) |
| 17:08.41 | Jucato | ok.... don't you want to feed your curiosity? heheh |
| 17:08.48 | ELITE_x | heh |
| 17:09.02 | *** join/#kde ian| (n=ian@dslb-084-060-089-154.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 17:09.08 | BCMM | Do KDE font settings apply to non-KDE QT applications? |
| 17:09.09 | freebse | Jucato: I install it from source right now, and no kde3 was asked for... anyway we never find out and don't take me wrong I don't really care :) |
| 17:10.00 | Jucato | freebse: blame it on the packagers :) |
| 17:10.08 | freebse | anyway I got KDE4 running without xgl |
| 17:10.20 | ELITE_x | nice |
| 17:10.27 | freebse | Jucato: ya this is what I do... because it is the case |
| 17:10.34 | *** join/#kde The_Ball_ (n=The_Ball@d58-106-49-250.rdl4.qld.optusnet.com.au) |
| 17:10.55 | *** join/#kde bentob0x (n=laurent@ip-213-49-80-142.dsl.scarlet.be) |
| 17:11.01 | freebse | ELITE_x: so package problem, maybe solved in unstable, just a guess but it could well be that |
| 17:11.10 | ELITE_x | maybe |
| 17:11.13 | *** join/#kde Pinaraf_ (n=moi@ALille-251-1-53-204.w82-127.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 17:11.14 | *** join/#kde Hoki (n=Hokinon@unaffiliated/hokinon) |
| 17:11.47 | *** join/#kde maluta (n=coorr@201-75-179-169-nd.cpe.vivax.com.br) |
| 17:12.02 | freebse | ELITE_x: to really check it out you need to wait untill make has installed amarok |
| 17:12.05 | *** join/#kde kla_kal (n=kla_kal@p5495D609.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 17:12.28 | ELITE_x | well just installed with apt |
| 17:12.30 | ELITE_x | lolz |
| 17:12.37 | Jucato | hehehe |
| 17:12.39 | *** join/#kde bjwebb (n=bjwebb@tuxhacker/Bjwebb) |
| 17:12.43 | freebse | ELITE_x: well it could be a while, don't know how long it takes... na apt gives me this kde3 bshit :) |
| 17:13.12 | *** join/#kde polz (n=polz@cpe-213-157-235-31.dynamic.amis.net) |
| 17:13.25 | freebse | Jucato: it is the packages, if it runs from source and it looks like it does |
| 17:13.41 | blendtux | erpo: like i did a made a google alert, the confirmation mail is send to me |
| 17:13.43 | *** join/#kde colo_mobile (n=colo@86.59.108.66) |
| 17:13.44 | bjwebb | HI |
| 17:13.44 | blendtux | sorry |
| 17:13.46 | *** part/#kde kla_kal (n=kla_kal@p5495D609.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 17:13.49 | *** join/#kde ovis (n=deadly1@78-61-196-158.ip.zebra.lt) |
| 17:13.50 | ELITE_x | http://nixcoders.pastebin.ca/857407 |
| 17:13.58 | ELITE_x | for kdebase grep |
| 17:14.06 | blendtux | erpo: what is the now tag wich i see in my mails |
| 17:14.14 | freebse | is someone interested in my oppinion on KDE4, guess not... :) so I am not going to tell you :) LOLs |
| 17:14.22 | bjwebb | konqueror in kde4 is acting strange, its not "attatched", do you recognise this problem |
| 17:14.39 | ELITE_x | freebse: i think kde4 is the best Wm ever |
| 17:14.50 | tlmarker | freebse: what is you opinion of KDE4? |
| 17:14.59 | Jucato | ELITE_x: you mean DE right? :) |
| 17:15.00 | *** join/#kde pedepy (n=paul@bas1-montreal02-1096716506.dsl.bell.ca) |
| 17:15.06 | Jucato | (coz KWin is the WM :P) |
| 17:15.29 | *** join/#kde thomasbot (n=thomasbo@unaffiliated/thomas/x-476237/bot/thomasbot) |
| 17:15.51 | pedepy | can you make one that's like a panel that you can resize and shit ? |
| 17:16.56 | tlmarker | ELITE_x: do you know why x would crash while im using KDE4? |
| 17:17.00 | bjwebb | pedepy: ++ |
| 17:17.19 | ELITE_x | tlmarker: no idea |
| 17:17.28 | ELITE_x | any error? |
| 17:17.37 | freebse | tlmarker: I need to check it out a bit more, it is much better than kde3... but still I am going to stay with gnome I guess |
| 17:17.53 | ELITE_x | never used gnome |
| 17:18.08 | freebse | anyway good job I really hated KDE3, so KDE4 is really somthing I could go with, nice job |
| 17:18.22 | ELITE_x | hell yea |
| 17:18.27 | tlmarker | ELITE_x: no error, just crash. i need to unplug the computer, cause nothing else will solve the problem. |
| 17:18.45 | tlmarker | is tried the liveCD with KDE4 and it seemed to work fine |
| 17:18.57 | ELITE_x | distro? |
| 17:19.02 | tlmarker | kubuntu |
| 17:19.11 | ELITE_x | svn build? |
| 17:19.15 | freebse | ELITE_x: well ya I do normally use E17, but in work we have gnome and we had also KDE3, but most problems occured to happen with KDE because most ppl are to stupid to use it, it had to much options ppl can mess up |
| 17:19.19 | bjwebb | anyone know about the location bar deing buggy in konqueror |
| 17:19.38 | *** join/#kde cheko (n=jan@p3EE27FC2.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 17:19.42 | Thundercloud | freebse: Where do you work? |
| 17:19.54 | ELITE_x | freebse: lol |
| 17:19.55 | freebse | Thundercloud: Siemens |
| 17:19.59 | Thundercloud | Haha wtf |
| 17:20.00 | ELITE_x | nice |
| 17:20.03 | ELITE_x | lloll |
| 17:20.10 | tlmarker | ELITE_x: i don't think so. It was on the kubuntu site |
| 17:20.14 | Thundercloud | I refuse to believe people who work at Siemens are incapable of using KDE :D |
| 17:20.18 | Thundercloud | What distro were you using? |
| 17:20.41 | freebse | Thundercloud: we also have Windows XP desktops :) before you ask, actually only IT department is on GNU/Linux |
| 17:20.50 | Thundercloud | freebse: Sounds about right. |
| 17:20.54 | ELITE_x | wth is windows? |
| 17:20.57 | *** join/#kde blueTUX (n=kevin@cpe-24-209-63-138.neo.res.rr.com) |
| 17:20.57 | Thundercloud | So wait, dev teams do all their work in windows? |
| 17:21.45 | freebse | Thundercloud: no, they use GNU/Linux in Admin and Windows or Macs in dev |
| 17:22.02 | Thundercloud | Failboat |
| 17:22.11 | ELITE_x | wintendo sux |
| 17:22.17 | Thundercloud | Well, macs aren't too bad |
| 17:22.21 | ELITE_x | agree |
| 17:22.31 | Thundercloud | But I refuse to understand how _anyone_ can do development in windows. |
| 17:22.48 | freebse | we tried to change some dudes to openoffice and KDE, but that was a mess... we stoped that and gave them gnome, it was a bit better, but we endet to get MS Office and Windows XP for them |
| 17:23.04 | Thundercloud | Even the dev team!? |
| 17:23.28 | freebse | besides the client System is not so important in a environment running terminal servers |
| 17:23.32 | *** join/#kde gegge87 (n=gegge87@ppp-126-151.33-151.iol.it) |
| 17:23.35 | ELITE_x | my job is a bit better :P |
| 17:23.41 | ELITE_x | no wintendo there |
| 17:23.51 | gegge87 | hi |
| 17:23.52 | Thundercloud | I forget, what does Siemens actually MAKE nowadays? |
| 17:23.56 | freebse | Thundercloud: dev also means Visual Basic department and all this things :) |
| 17:23.56 | Thundercloud | They pulled out of the phone market didn't they |
| 17:23.57 | Thundercloud | ? |
| 17:23.58 | gegge87 | is there any kde italian room? |
| 17:24.02 | Thundercloud | freebse: EW |
| 17:24.49 | tlmarker | if the kubuntu livecd with KDE4 works with no problem, would it work the same after installing? |
| 17:24.58 | ELITE_x | siemens machines are rly rly good |
| 17:25.06 | freebse | Thun dervloud: they build technology for weapons :) for example or your local nuclear power plant |
| 17:25.13 | Thundercloud | freebse: Dear god |
| 17:25.14 | *** join/#kde fintan (n=fintan@87-198-37-54.ptr.magnet.ie) |
| 17:25.26 | Thundercloud | I would NOT want my nuclear plants running windows :D |
| 17:25.33 | ELITE_x | lol |
| 17:25.34 | freebse | Thunderloud: actually Siemens is a bank with a small technology department |
| 17:25.50 | *** join/#kde MeW_ (n=dirigean@unaffiliated/mew/x-344925) |
| 17:26.01 | freebse | Thundercloud: I don't know I hope not, I am not in this department, I don't know |
| 17:26.05 | Thundercloud | Hehe |
| 17:26.07 | Thundercloud | What dept you in? |
| 17:26.22 | freebse | lol, Windows XP found new hardware :) you want to install melt down 2.0 :) |
| 17:26.33 | Thundercloud | freebse: Haha |
| 17:26.35 | Thundercloud | Sounds about right |
| 17:26.39 | ELITE_x | we have more than 500 siemens controlled machine |
| 17:26.47 | Thundercloud | A mate of mine, his debit card got swallowed by an ATM |
| 17:26.47 | *** join/#kde Worf (n=worf@84.119.63.24) |
| 17:26.49 | freebse | Thundercloud: IT Services, we just set up printers and broken mice :) |
| 17:26.51 | Thundercloud | Know the reason why it was swallowed? |
| 17:27.01 | Thundercloud | Windows NT4 crashed |
| 17:27.15 | trpr | Thundercloud: heh. i will keep that in mind next time i have to get a new one. that happened to me about 6 months ago |
| 17:27.19 | freebse | Thundercloud: you live in the US or? |
| 17:27.24 | Thundercloud | freebse: UK |
| 17:27.26 | ELITE_x | freebse: did you know this SIMATIC OP 77A? |
| 17:27.32 | *** join/#kde funkyou (n=dEletemE@e179139029.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 17:27.44 | freebse | THundercloud: ok. No ATM in Germany is running on Windows NT, all on OS2 |
| 17:27.57 | Thundercloud | freebse: All the banks here run OS2 |
| 17:28.03 | Thundercloud | But the ATM machines are a different matter :D |
| 17:28.43 | Thundercloud | I used to work for HSBC (summer job) |
| 17:28.46 | *** join/#kde neversfelde (n=neversfe@nrbg-4dbf1e57.pool.einsundeins.de) |
| 17:28.47 | Thundercloud | Interesting setup they have |
| 17:28.59 | *** join/#kde teatime (n=jens@213-64-148-31-no39.tbcn.telia.com) |
| 17:29.11 | ELITE_x | do you code Thundercloud? |
| 17:29.19 | ELITE_x | err stupid question |
| 17:29.23 | *** part/#kde tlmarker (n=tlmarker@12-218-235-85.client.mchsi.com) |
| 17:29.31 | Thundercloud | ELITE_x: Yeah. |
| 17:29.31 | freebse | ELITE_x: not really I have seen some of this things once that is it |
| 17:29.34 | Thundercloud | I'm doing a CSC course at uni |
| 17:29.44 | ELITE_x | nice |
| 17:29.53 | ELITE_x | i have a small linux community |
| 17:30.17 | ELITE_x | we working on online games |
| 17:30.20 | Thundercloud | Ace |
| 17:30.27 | Thundercloud | I'm not into the game side of things |
| 17:30.38 | Thundercloud | The way it's going currently i'm specialising in embedded systems and mobile wireless |
| 17:30.39 | ELITE_x | sometimes funny |
| 17:30.54 | *** join/#kde ahmed_ (n=ahmed@41.234.60.235) |
| 17:32.08 | freebse | so I need to restart, ya I know actually only X, but still... I upgrade from sid to unstable :) ELITE_x thx I guess this was worth it :) |
| 17:32.46 | Thundercloud | Also, i'm thinking once I get a bit of spare time I might help out with the krecipes project |
| 17:32.46 | ELITE_x | good luck |
| 17:33.00 | ELITE_x | same here |
| 17:33.19 | ELITE_x | working on ktorrent |
| 17:33.20 | Thundercloud | Cool |
| 17:33.25 | Thundercloud | I need a bit more C++ knowledge |
| 17:33.28 | freebse | ELITE_x: cant be worse than running FreeBSD dev edition :) it is broken every update :) lol\ |
| 17:33.46 | ELITE_x | just started palying with kde4 source |
| 17:33.58 | Thundercloud | But I know quite a bit of C, and I know quite a lot of java so the grounding in OOP can translate well there hopefully. |
| 17:34.10 | Thundercloud | And i've also used qt4 jambi so i'm not unfamiliar with qt either :) |
| 17:34.10 | ELITE_x | heh |
| 17:34.16 | freebse | who is working on ktorrent, ELITE_x: you are? |
| 17:34.17 | *** join/#kde agnitio (n=magnus@h-91-126-123-244.wholesale.rp80.se) |
| 17:34.32 | ELITE_x | me and my friends |
| 17:34.38 | ELITE_x | already done with hax |
| 17:34.43 | *** join/#kde tuxman (n=tuxman@host-84-220-247-234.cust-adsl.tiscali.it) |
| 17:35.36 | *** join/#kde ahmed__ (n=ahmed@41.234.60.235) |
| 17:35.44 | *** join/#kde _smithjd (n=smithjd@h64-42-209-33.gtconnect.net) |
| 17:35.55 | *** join/#kde Iwakun (n=chris@adsl-75-36-162-165.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) |
| 17:36.01 | freebse | ELITE_x: this is my fav Torrent prog, but it could be easier on RAM and CPU really to tell the truth, it uses more than azureus, which I don't like |
| 17:36.28 | *** join/#kde Gentle` (n=tier@HSI-KBW-091-089-096-075.hsi2.kabelbw.de) |
| 17:36.29 | ELITE_x | http://www.nixcoders.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=682 |
| 17:36.30 | ELITE_x | :P |
| 17:36.35 | *** join/#kde caleb__ (n=caleb@bb-87-81-156-76.ukonline.co.uk) |
| 17:36.42 | *** join/#kde maki-d (n=maki@79.125.142.67) |
| 17:36.47 | freebse | ELITE_x: pls guys it really uses to much ressources :) besides very good work, excellent |
| 17:36.50 | *** join/#kde ovis (n=deadly1@78-61-196-158.ip.zebra.lt) |
| 17:36.51 | *** part/#kde caleb__ (n=caleb@bb-87-81-156-76.ukonline.co.uk) |
| 17:37.10 | colo_mobile | who cares about system resources anyway? |
| 17:37.15 | ReedWood | is here a debian user around which has installed the oxygen courser theme already |
| 17:37.21 | colo_mobile | i got 8gigs of ram and 4 cores to burn |
| 17:37.58 | freebse | colo_mobile: well actually noone anymore, but do we really need to go the Vista way with 2GB Ram and a awfull slow explorer :) |
| 17:38.01 | ELITE_x | colo_mobile: which video card? |
| 17:38.21 | *** join/#kde kai (n=kai@S01060016e68acd45.ok.shawcable.net) |
| 17:38.26 | colo_mobile | ELITE_x: Intel GMA X3000 (integrated) |
| 17:38.35 | Thundercloud | freebse: I dunno, turn off the desktop effects in kde4 and it's rather zippy |
| 17:38.39 | ELITE_x | 8800 gtx here |
| 17:38.53 | Nyle | lucky bastard |
| 17:39.00 | Nyle | :( |
| 17:39.03 | ELITE_x | lol |
| 17:39.09 | *** join/#kde sahin_h (n=ezaz@dsl5402ABC4.pool.t-online.hu) |
| 17:39.09 | *** join/#kde Johnny_Quest (n=byte@c-68-48-224-86.hsd1.md.comcast.net) |
| 17:39.12 | freebse | colo_mobile: Linux is used in countries where they use old P3 with 256MB RAM, and the advantage of Linux is it is running on that, so ressources are quite important, but maybe I am just getting old |
| 17:39.22 | freebse | the times of 64k is over :) |
| 17:39.27 | Nyle | 256MB |
| 17:39.40 | colo_mobile | freebse: Linux has not much to do with ktorrent. |
| 17:39.44 | Nyle | still using 8.42.3 + compiz confusion |
| 17:40.16 | Nyle | its either fglrx or vesa |
| 17:40.21 | freebse | colo_mobile: ya well it is just the kernel blah... ya well come on you know what I mean... |
| 17:40.25 | Nyle | why o why did I buy an ati card |
| 17:40.31 | ELITE_x | ktorrent using 1 % of cpu or less |
| 17:41.08 | *** join/#kde flake (n=rmcdanie@6532142hfc81.tampabay.res.rr.com) |
| 17:41.43 | gegge87 | giusto una domandina...come faccio a cambiare lingua al kde4? |
| 17:41.48 | flake | is this a bug, under kde4 and trying to use geany, I can't update stuff in my home folder, permissions seem to change to -r |
| 17:42.01 | *** join/#kde Jonty (n=jadh@80-192-73-198.cable.ubr11.edin.blueyonder.co.uk) |
| 17:42.07 | freebse | ELITE_x: it was not an offence, but on my old AMD 1000Mhz with 512MB RAM and gnome 2.x I used it and it was really slowing down the whole comp... now on my dual with 4GB RAM I use it and I am quite happy with it, no problem, still it eats a lot fof RAM |
| 17:42.37 | *** join/#kde agnitio_ (n=magnus@h-91-126-123-244.wholesale.rp80.se) |
| 17:42.38 | *** join/#kde Pensacola (n=pensacol@83.101.14.185) |
| 17:43.30 | *** join/#kde pgquiles (n=pgquiles@81.202.65.108.dyn.user.ono.com) |
| 17:43.35 | flake | but in kde (3) everything is ok |
| 17:43.52 | *** join/#kde funkyou (n=dEletemE@e179138117.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 17:44.07 | *** join/#kde Pensacola (n=pensacol@83.101.14.185) |
| 17:45.31 | Nyle | i wonder if i can just type apt-get install kde and get kde4 on kubuntu gusty |
| 17:45.46 | Nyle | or would it be like kde4 as a package |
| 17:45.51 | *** join/#kde cepera (n=serega_k@86.110.162.2) |
| 17:45.57 | Nyle | i wanna try out kde4 but not gonna build it |
| 17:46.04 | Nyle | help |
| 17:46.47 | *** join/#kde bandit76 (n=root@host243-212-dynamic.7-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 17:46.57 | *** join/#kde eNTi|notebook (n=nt@85.127.149.54) |
| 17:47.01 | flake | Nyle, you can use synpatic to get it, and log into it by changing the session |
| 17:47.14 | Nyle | synaptic? |
| 17:47.30 | *** join/#kde fengshaun (n=fengshau@blk-215-80-155.eastlink.ca) |
| 17:47.53 | Nyle | i think if you hang in #kde you should suggest kde apps for things that they exist for |
| 17:47.57 | Nyle | like |
| 17:47.59 | *** join/#kde Iwakun (n=chris@adsl-75-36-162-165.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) |
| 17:47.59 | Nyle | kynaptic! |
| 17:48.02 | Nyle | but i like cli |
| 17:48.31 | Nyle | or i personally prefer kpackage |
| 17:48.34 | Nyle | its nice |
| 17:48.50 | Nyle | the the apt kioslave too |
| 17:48.52 | *** join/#kde johnsen (n=johnsen@pc-10-249.skjoldhoej.dk) |
| 17:48.55 | *** join/#kde kirun (n=konversa@129.216.125.91.gr7.adsl.brightview.com) |
| 17:49.02 | Prof_Frink | Nyle: There's instuctions on kubuntu.org |
| 17:49.12 | Jucato | Nyle: instructions for installing KDE 4 on Kubuntu,please go to #kubuntu-kde4 |
| 17:49.23 | *** join/#kde idem (n=idem@4be54-2-82-225-1-118.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 17:49.23 | *** join/#kde bjwebb (n=bjwebb@tuxhacker/Bjwebb) |
| 17:49.26 | jthomas | i would *really* like a KDE (gui) app which can map the multimedia keys on some random keyboard to DCOP actions, is this possible or available? Would it be possible in KDE4, where I hear DCOP is gone!? |
| 17:49.29 | Nyle | Jucato: oh wow, thank you |
| 17:49.34 | Nyle | that works |
| 17:49.55 | Nyle | my an |
| 17:49.57 | Nyle | man |
| 17:50.00 | Nyle | dude homie |
| 17:50.04 | Nyle | i can't tell you of a kde app |
| 17:50.13 | Nyle | but! if you use keytouch you can simply map any multimedia keys |
| 17:50.26 | *** join/#kde pmatos (n=pmatos@pocm06r.ecs.soton.ac.uk) |
| 17:50.27 | Nyle | 12:49 [dpkg(n=dpkg@unaffiliated/dpkg)] rumour has it, keytouch is a program which allows you to easily configure and define the EXTRA keys on your Multimedia/Internet ready keyboard with absolute ease. Get those keys working now! http://keytouch.sourceforge.net/about.html |
| 17:50.36 | jthomas | yeah but! thats not GUI, its not intuitive, and its not DCOP |
| 17:50.46 | Nyle | i believe this is also package in debian and in kubuntu/ubuntu |
| 17:50.54 | *** join/#kde meister_ (n=meister@CPE001310d428f3-CM001bd7ac2782.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) |
| 17:50.55 | Nyle | dude, you wanna get the job done or not? |
| 17:51.17 | *** join/#kde aleksanteri (n=cogwheel@unaffiliated/aleksanteri) |
| 17:51.30 | Jucato | jthomas: as long as KDE recognizes the keys, you can map that key to a command in KControl -> Regional & Accessibility -> Input Actions |
| 17:51.32 | Nyle | you want the multimedia keys to work right, so use the tool for the job, that i know of.. if your keys work already and you want to make them somehow kde specific |
| 17:51.35 | Nyle | i dunno how to do that |
| 17:51.38 | Jucato | jthomas: in KDE 4, D-Bus replaces DCOP |
| 17:51.55 | Nyle | and |
| 17:52.00 | Nyle | keytouch is a full gui program |
| 17:52.11 | Nyle | very intuitive, point and click, even a retard can figure it out |
| 17:52.20 | *** join/#kde mattb_ (n=mattb@78.148.255.129) |
| 17:52.21 | Nyle | i think you just disregarded what i sadi without even knowing what i was saying |
| 17:52.22 | jthomas | be kind |
| 17:52.25 | Nyle | keytouch, try it out |
| 17:52.27 | *** join/#kde pedepy (n=paul@bas1-montreal02-1096716506.dsl.bell.ca) |
| 17:52.28 | mattb_ | hello |
| 17:52.49 | *** join/#kde Pensacola (n=pensacol@83.101.14.185) |
| 17:53.03 | mattb_ | exit |
| 17:53.03 | jthomas | yes i was mistaken for the app; keytouch is a Gtk-based app however. I'll have to play with it, thanks for the suggestion. |
| 17:53.08 | *** part/#kde mattb_ (n=mattb@78.148.255.129) |
| 17:53.27 | *** join/#kde alexei (n=alexei@core-vulture-out-30.telecom.by) |
| 17:53.31 | Nyle | see thats more like it |
| 17:53.41 | Nyle | mutual courtesy n stuff on irc for a change ;) |
| 17:53.59 | *** join/#kde k0m0d0 (n=andrei@81.12.224.202) |
| 17:54.28 | *** join/#kde boom1992 (n=lukas@pD9E19804.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 17:54.43 | Nyle | and also |
| 17:55.07 | Nyle | if you configure your keyboard using keytouch, be kind enough to send a copy of your config file, plus keyboard make and model to the author of the software, so that he can include it in his next release |
| 17:55.21 | Nyle | i sent in 3 keyboards that are used a lot in the market |
| 17:56.38 | pedepy | any way to setup konqueror's default size ? .... |
| 17:56.45 | pedepy | its too big for me here |
| 17:56.50 | pedepy | too wide, to be precise |
| 17:56.51 | bjwebb | hmmm |
| 17:56.54 | Nyle | yes |
| 17:56.58 | pedepy | always gotta resize the thing every damn time |
| 17:57.00 | Nyle | make the window the size you want |
| 17:57.02 | Nyle | first |
| 17:57.08 | pedepy | done that |
| 17:57.23 | Nyle | then go to settings |
| 17:57.26 | Nyle | configure view profile |
| 17:57.31 | Nyle | AFTER you configure it the way you want |
| 17:57.48 | Nyle | save window size in profile |
| 17:58.03 | Nyle | then whenever you open that profile, be it web browsing or file management etc |
| 17:58.12 | Nyle | well.. its obvious what'll happen |
| 17:58.37 | pedepy | yea ok brb |
| 17:58.46 | bjwebb | konqueror 4's location bar is broke |
| 17:58.57 | *** join/#kde _jw (n=JW@cvs.claborn.net) |
| 17:58.59 | *** join/#kde DexterF (n=dexter@ip-78-94-185-206.PH-1511G-BSR64K-04.ish.de) |
| 17:59.16 | pedepy | its just |
| 17:59.22 | bjwebb | have you heard that issue beofre? |
| 17:59.23 | Nyle | somthing wrong |
| 17:59.25 | pedepy | i cant seem to find your view profile configuration thing ?1 ...... |
| 17:59.55 | *** join/#kde vandenoever (n=vandenoe@ip5657eb5b.direct-adsl.nl) |
| 18:00.02 | Nyle | ok lets do it step by step, 1) configure konq the way you want. 2) go to the menubar > Settings > Configure view Profiles |
| 18:00.10 | pedepy | got it |
| 18:00.12 | Nyle | in that box that opens, you can check the 2nd box |
| 18:00.24 | pedepy | BOO ya |
| 18:00.26 | pedepy | thank you :) |
| 18:00.26 | Nyle | :) |
| 18:00.41 | Nyle | wanna get high? |
| 18:00.56 | Nyle | no goddamit towel we dont' wanna get high |
| 18:01.00 | Nyle | are you sure? |
| 18:01.09 | Nyle | yeh, towelie get outta here |
| 18:01.09 | bjwebb | Nyle: do you think you can help me? |
| 18:01.14 | Nyle | not sure man |
| 18:01.18 | Nyle | I don't use kde4 ever yet |
| 18:01.20 | pedepy | i dunno about it starting in the upper left corner all the time though |
| 18:01.20 | bjwebb | ah |
| 18:01.32 | *** join/#kde nik11 (n=dragoon@cht33-1-82-228-78-181.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 18:01.33 | Nyle | however other people here do, just wait |
| 18:01.34 | *** join/#kde maluta (n=coorr@201-75-179-169-nd.cpe.vivax.com.br) |
| 18:01.36 | bjwebb | i don't think its fixable by me |
| 18:01.48 | bjwebb | i think ill just end up submitting a bug report |
| 18:01.52 | Nyle | if you don't get an answer, its because either no one knows, or no one wants to tell you, or no one is around |
| 18:01.56 | SSJ_GZ | Nyle: You're the worst character ever, Towelie |
| 18:01.56 | bjwebb | but i can't tell if its a known bug |
| 18:02.03 | Nyle | SSJ_GZ: hehe |
| 18:02.05 | Nyle | i know |
| 18:02.13 | SSJ_GZ | :) |
| 18:02.35 | Nyle | well im gettin high |
| 18:02.37 | *** join/#kde Shapeshifter (n=asdf@77-57-111-173.dclient.hispeed.ch) |
| 18:02.41 | Nyle | i gotta go to work in 4 hour |
| 18:03.13 | Nyle | wanted to check out kde before tht |
| 18:03.18 | Nyle | but it seems it would need more time |
| 18:03.40 | Nyle | guys, how many megabytings is the kde4 desktop |
| 18:03.44 | Nyle | all of it so far? |
| 18:03.57 | Shapeshifter | If I click on a link in kopete, it will be opened in konqueror. I want it to open in Opera though, but I don't know where to decide that. How can I make opera the standard browser? |
| 18:04.00 | *** join/#kde growl (n=growl@ivu.users.odessa.comstar.net.ua) |
| 18:04.02 | Nyle | I have only 70kb/s max internet download speed |
| 18:04.27 | jthomas | Nyle, Keytouch looks OK but it wants a pre-chosen keyboard; what if i am not on that list? Can I do a generic one and map functions to keys? |
| 18:04.29 | Nyle | is kde4 like 200+, 300+ mb? |
| 18:04.39 | Nyle | jthomas: you can configure it yourself |
| 18:04.43 | Nyle | I suggest you read the documentation |
| 18:04.49 | Nyle | which is what I said |
| 18:05.04 | Nyle | if you configure your keyboard yourself, send in a copy of your config file and make/model of keyboard to the author |
| 18:05.20 | jthomas | i see; thanks I shall look into this further then. |
| 18:05.23 | Nyle | so in the future, if someone who has your exact keyboard uses the software, he doesn't have to configure it himself |
| 18:06.04 | Nyle | i have 24 multimedia keys |
| 18:06.37 | SSJ_GZ | Nyle: I've got about 70MB worth of KDE4 packages, here. |
| 18:07.16 | *** join/#kde smacnay (n=smacnay@bas3-kitchener06-1096642068.dsl.bell.ca) |
| 18:07.38 | smacnay | Is there a version of twinkle in debian testing? I can't find one. |
| 18:07.49 | *** join/#kde pedepy2 (n=paul@bas1-montreal02-1096727323.dsl.bell.ca) |
| 18:08.07 | Nyle | <--, -->, stop, home, refresh, search, favs, home, mail, stop/play/pause/back/forward/ volume +/-, mute, media, ~/, calc, sleep, up/down arrow, left/right arrow, updown arrow uses sudo chvt 7/8 for the two diff X servers running on this machine (1 imported xdmcp session), left/right arrow do kde virtual desktop left right |
| 18:08.08 | maluta | Hi, I'm trying to use a full session o kde4, after compilation I moved the kde.desktop from /usr/kde/4.0/share/apps/kdm/sessions/ /usr/share/xsessions/, but when I check that on kdm (3.5) I got: Could not start kdeinit4: Check your instalation. I tryed the startx command, but I got an libkio.so.5 error, something like undefined symbol... Does anybody know how to fix it? |
| 18:08.18 | Nyle | and.. there are lots of plugins for keytouch as well |
| 18:08.50 | Nyle | control volume with asound, browser, amarok control plugin, mail plugin, etc. etc. |
| 18:08.57 | *** join/#kde non7top (n=non7top@77.66.152.72) |
| 18:08.59 | Nyle | for multimedia keyboards, nothing beat keytouch |
| 18:09.39 | Nyle | SSJ_GZ: wow! |
| 18:09.45 | Nyle | oh thats fairly small |
| 18:09.55 | SSJ_GZ | Nyle: Don't take that as a definite figure, though. |
| 18:10.15 | Nyle | of course, thats exlucding most system dependencies, and libs im guessing |
| 18:10.20 | Nyle | thats just the core or what? |
| 18:10.40 | pedepy2 | testing |
| 18:10.42 | *** join/#kde Cyrille_ (n=Cyrille@AVelizy-151-1-49-89.w82-124.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 18:11.03 | Nyle | smacnay: if not search unstable, backport it or use it if it doesn't depend on newer lib vesions |
| 18:11.08 | *** part/#kde Shapeshifter (n=asdf@77-57-111-173.dclient.hispeed.ch) |
| 18:11.30 | *** join/#kde sabayonlive-528 (n=sabayonu@92.81.62.141) |
| 18:11.30 | Nyle | for a 5+ year old keyboard |
| 18:11.31 | SSJ_GZ | Nyle: Oh wait - that was wrong :) Hold on ... |
| 18:11.34 | Nyle | this thing is great |
| 18:11.43 | Nyle | i love my wireless multimedia keyboard |
| 18:11.52 | *** join/#kde siakattack (n=siakatta@82.197.121.86) |
| 18:11.57 | Nyle | 2 AA batteries last more than 2 months |
| 18:11.59 | ReedWood | is there a list of allready mentioned bugs for kde4? |
| 18:12.02 | *** join/#kde pag (n=pavel@unaffiliated/pag) |
| 18:12.17 | *** join/#kde Booboo (n=Blahme@60.54.93.116) |
| 18:12.22 | Booboo | Hi |
| 18:12.29 | *** join/#kde feindbild (n=feindbil@mail.delphin-computer.de) |
| 18:12.50 | SSJ_GZ | ReedWood: Apart from bugs.kde.org, not really. |
| 18:13.07 | smacnay | Nyle: thanks |
| 18:13.09 | Booboo | Is there a konqueror plugin that will preview of video files in the file view |
| 18:13.26 | Booboo | Like just the first screen |
| 18:13.36 | smacnay | Nyle: it must be in the process of being upgraded or in flux to kde 4 |
| 18:13.59 | Booboo | I vaguely remember using it before |
| 18:14.01 | SSJ_GZ | Nyle: My /var/cache/apt/archives contains less than 180MB of KDE4 stuff. This includes kdegraphics and kdegames, and probably some duplicates from updates. |
| 18:14.08 | *** join/#kde kyndig (n=kyndig@c-71-197-105-111.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 18:14.12 | Nyle | hmm |
| 18:14.24 | Nyle | ar compression ratio is on average 1:3 |
| 18:14.33 | Nyle | so about 180x2.5-3.0 perhaps |
| 18:14.44 | ReedWood | SSJ_GZ: this page does not work with konqueror 4.0 correctly :) (but good enought to use it) |
| 18:14.45 | *** join/#kde aantipop (n=michael@frnk-590eb36a.pool.einsundeins.de) |
| 18:14.56 | SSJ_GZ | :) |
| 18:14.57 | Nyle | 500-600mb kde4 |
| 18:15.03 | Nyle | eh sounds about right |
| 18:15.40 | ReedWood | if I set the transparency of a window to a value above 50% nothing changes. Is this known? |
| 18:15.58 | Nyle | so .. if someone made a plugin to use khtml to render stuff in firefox |
| 18:16.18 | ReedWood | I think this is also the reason why the effect "change transparence with mouse wheel" does not work |
| 18:16.25 | pedepy2 | uh is it normal to have like 15 'dormant' kio_http processes ? |
| 18:17.07 | *** join/#kde hoisn (n=hoisn@p5B0DF852.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 18:17.13 | *** join/#kde Desrick (i=Desrick@adsl-153-250-151.jax.bellsouth.net) |
| 18:17.27 | *** join/#kde bedi (n=bedi@nat/mandriva/x-72d570f36c26605d) |
| 18:18.17 | *** join/#kde hasenfrosch (n=chatzill@p5B3DFC71.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 18:19.37 | *** join/#kde shaffy (n=shaffy@blk-138-50-70.eastlink.ca) |
| 18:19.54 | shaffy | can anyone tell me how to tile windows on my kde desktop? i can't seem to find such an option. |
| 18:20.11 | *** part/#kde Desrick (i=Desrick@adsl-153-250-151.jax.bellsouth.net) |
| 18:20.48 | *** join/#kde erov (n=j@c-76-22-137-36.hsd1.tn.comcast.net) |
| 18:23.21 | *** join/#kde fengshaun (n=fengshau@blk-215-80-155.eastlink.ca) |
| 18:23.28 | *** join/#kde shaffy (n=shaffy@blk-138-50-70.eastlink.ca) |
| 18:24.25 | ctibor | How does one configure suspend/hibernating in KDE4. It is working for me on command line and when closing the lid or pressing the button. |
| 18:24.35 | ctibor | Forgot ? :-) |
| 18:25.39 | *** part/#kde hdh (n=hdh@58.187.94.70) |
| 18:26.27 | pedepy2 | are there any ways to hack 3.5.x's konqueror to use webkit at this point ? |
| 18:26.38 | pedepy2 | im a bit sick of every other page not rendering right (or at all) |
| 18:26.49 | *** join/#kde Mojo_risin (n=mourao@174.137.54.77.rev.vodafone.pt) |
| 18:28.03 | *** join/#kde tinytony (n=tt@c-88d2e253.03-2013-73746f2.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) |
| 18:28.57 | *** join/#kde pedepy (n=paul@bas1-montreal02-1096727433.dsl.bell.ca) |
| 18:29.26 | *** join/#kde CarLuva (n=carluva@66.185.74.95) |
| 18:29.29 | *** join/#kde JohnBat26 (n=JohnBat2@home-pool6-130.com2com.ru) |
| 18:29.50 | pedepy | did you guys get my webkit question ? |
| 18:31.11 | *** join/#kde MeW_ (n=dirigean@unaffiliated/mew/x-344925) |
| 18:31.24 | MrGrim | pedepy: everyone saw it |
| 18:31.29 | pedepy | cool |
| 18:31.47 | MrGrim | pedepy: I don't think so.. tho I'm curious which pages you are visiting... cause myspace profiles don't count as real websites |
| 18:32.00 | pedepy | i know .. |
| 18:32.03 | MrGrim | :P |
| 18:32.10 | StormByte | MrGrim: some bank accounts does not render properly in konqueror either |
| 18:32.15 | StormByte | *bank accounts=bank pages |
| 18:32.19 | StormByte | ust for example |
| 18:32.32 | MrGrim | StormByte: ya.. my old bank had some sort of cookie/session saving issue |
| 18:32.32 | pedepy | there are many things that dont work .. from deviantart to facebook to digg and countless other sites will just not work right |
| 18:32.36 | MrGrim | new bank works flawlessly tho thankfully |
| 18:32.38 | pedepy | all seem related to javascript actually |
| 18:32.46 | *** join/#kde sIbOk (i=sNOUbOR@56.Red-80-36-227.staticIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 18:32.51 | MrGrim | pedepy: wow... do you really think that is normal? |
| 18:32.55 | pedepy | seem's to be konqueror's real achille's heel |
| 18:33.05 | pedepy | wow what |
| 18:33.10 | *** join/#kde Ashrak (n=ashrak@p5499AC8B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 18:33.17 | StormByte | sometimes, the problem is in website, not in konqueror.. konqueror passes the acid2 test |
| 18:33.19 | MrGrim | when that many popular websites are not working for you konqueror is broken.. those all work |
| 18:33.21 | MrGrim | flawlessly |
| 18:33.30 | MrGrim | in konqueror |
| 18:33.30 | StormByte | but much websites *does not* respect standards... |
| 18:33.37 | ReedWood | by |
| 18:33.38 | *** part/#kde ReedWood (n=wmader@dslb-084-056-232-149.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 18:33.41 | pedepy | well |
| 18:33.42 | MrGrim | every single page you mentioned works |
| 18:33.51 | pedepy | i havent done anything to upset it |
| 18:34.06 | MrGrim | I use all 3 of those sites regularly |
| 18:34.15 | pedepy | i mean i can get to those sites, but they'll either hang or not display portions of them from time to time.. |
| 18:34.40 | MrGrim | dunno what to tell you.. other than it's a bugged installation/configuration issue |
| 18:34.41 | pedepy | say deviantart, is fine until i try to access a user's gallery, then the page loads but nothing appears.. |
| 18:34.50 | MrGrim | konqueror is more than capable of rendering them properly |
| 18:34.56 | pedepy | digg will sometimes freeze my mouse cursor for some reason |
| 18:35.07 | pedepy | gotta press ESC to unfreeze |
| 18:35.07 | *** join/#kde smurfslover (n=smurfslo@d51534032.access.telenet.be) |
| 18:35.44 | StormByte | MrGrim: but as webmasters does not respect standards.. this cause lot of troubles which "appears" to function well in IE |
| 18:35.46 | MrGrim | try checking your distros bug repo... maybe there's some weird config issue or package conflict? |
| 18:35.48 | *** join/#kde Sutor (n=nesvarbu@email.thinkpassenger.com) |
| 18:35.58 | *** join/#kde meister_ (n=meister@CPE001310d428f3-CM001bd7ac2782.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) |
| 18:36.11 | pedepy | i dont see what |
| 18:36.13 | MrGrim | StormByte: indeed, but, digg, facebook, and deviantart all work w/o a hitch in konquerior |
| 18:36.15 | pedepy | could be the problem |
| 18:36.36 | pedepy | maybe ive made it up to be worse than it actually is |
| 18:36.52 | StormByte | pedepy: and how about creating a new user, and starting session with that user, with a fresh kde's config ? |
| 18:36.59 | StormByte | see if it solves your issue |
| 18:37.06 | pedepy | ill try that at some point |
| 18:37.07 | smurfslover | hi there |
| 18:37.21 | pedepy | but the thing is i havent toyed with any of the settings so .. |
| 18:37.35 | smurfslover | plasma doesn't show wallpapers |
| 18:37.48 | pedepy | anyway they're merging webkit back with khtml for kde4 arent they ? |
| 18:37.53 | smurfslover | only in slideshow mode |
| 18:37.54 | StormByte | smurfslover: is your screen gray? |
| 18:38.00 | smurfslover | yes |
| 18:38.01 | MrGrim | pedepy: no |
| 18:38.07 | StormByte | this is a bug in plasma I suffer too |
| 18:38.09 | smurfslover | i can use the slideshow |
| 18:38.17 | StormByte | as a workarround, I restart kde's session and it reloads |
| 18:38.18 | pedepy | theyre not? |
| 18:38.43 | *** part/#kde Mojo_risin (n=mourao@174.137.54.77.rev.vodafone.pt) |
| 18:38.47 | smurfslover | can it be fixed by editing plasma-appletsrc? |
| 18:39.10 | StormByte | I don't know I am not experienced with kde4, and I only have RC2 installed |
| 18:39.24 | pedepy | i thought for sure khtml and webkit were merging |
| 18:39.50 | *** join/#kde pascal42 (n=pascal@p3EE0E64A.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 18:39.57 | *** join/#kde profoX` (n=wesley@ubuntu/member/profox) |
| 18:39.57 | MrGrim | pedepy: and tbh I hope they never do... code sharing or even codebase sharing is cool, but kde needs to maintain independence. |
| 18:40.41 | pedepy | yea but since webkit is just a fork .. |
| 18:40.55 | MrGrim | I'm aware of that |
| 18:40.58 | *** join/#kde boom1992 (n=lukas@pD9E19804.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 18:42.02 | MrGrim | pedepy: I trust microsoft more than I trust apple :/ |
| 18:42.06 | *** join/#kde srosco (n=srosco@86.72.201.112) |
| 18:42.24 | StormByte | I trust neither of those two |
| 18:42.26 | StormByte | :) |
| 18:42.27 | *** join/#kde antjose (n=jmanuel@85.136.129.16.dyn.user.ono.com) |
| 18:42.28 | pedepy | is it really a matter of trust ? |
| 18:42.40 | srosco | hi some french here? |
| 18:43.00 | pedepy | open source community wrote the 1st code .. its only fair we get to use whatever improvements big businesses have done on it (and are profitting millons of dollars from) |
| 18:43.14 | pedepy | as long as code is readily available, i dont really care who codes it |
| 18:43.18 | MrGrim | pedepy: we do |
| 18:43.23 | MrGrim | webkit code is often backported |
| 18:43.34 | MrGrim | kde dev's even have svn access to apples repo |
| 18:43.51 | pedepy | well then i dont understand the mistrust factor |
| 18:44.02 | MrGrim | pedepy: there's a difference between code sharing and merging khtml/webkit into one tree and one repo |
| 18:44.02 | *** join/#kde Kragnerac (n=Michael@cpe-65-26-156-150.cinci.res.rr.com) |
| 18:44.11 | *** join/#kde hasenfrosch (n=chatzill@p5B3DFC71.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 18:44.12 | *** join/#kde mxttie|work (n=mxttie@134.58.179.6) |
| 18:44.36 | Kragnerac | Just Kool. |
| 18:44.55 | pedepy | by the way i thought if khtml was licensed under the GPL, any forks would have to be licensed the same ? |
| 18:45.06 | pedepy | so why is there restricted access to the webkit code? |
| 18:45.16 | MrGrim | pedepy: see, apple does as many Bad Things(tm) as everyones favorite monopolisitc company.. the only difference is somehow apple has managed to do so and maintain a rabid base of fanatical supporters that paint a rosy picture of an otherwise typical corporation |
| 18:45.18 | MrGrim | makes them dangerous |
| 18:45.31 | *** join/#kde tafsen (n=tafsen@125.84-48-64.nextgentel.com) |
| 18:45.45 | pedepy | apple still has that 'underdog' tag to them |
| 18:45.51 | pedepy | maybe not for long, but i think they still have it |
| 18:46.37 | *** join/#kde snatzer (n=test@88-196-19-128-dsl.hps.estpak.ee) |
| 18:46.42 | pedepy | but, like i said ... i guess as long as code is available how does it matter who codes it ? |
| 18:47.13 | *** join/#kde bob1955 (n=bob1955@dslb-084-057-064-046.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 18:47.48 | kyndig | would someone please let me know if there is a configuration option in kde 4.0 for adjusting the display brightness? |
| 18:48.02 | kyndig | can't seem to find it |
| 18:48.27 | pedepy | would it be so hard to get to choose between rendering engines ? |
| 18:49.05 | pedepy | kyndig: this is usually something handled by the X server or something ... WM or DEs will usually only provide interfaces to adjusting those settings |
| 18:49.18 | *** join/#kde Jejem (n=Jejem@77.196.233.11) |
| 18:49.30 | *** join/#kde guguno (n=2faa1233@87-121-29-128.telecablenet.com) |
| 18:49.30 | pedepy | in other words, you probably still can do it whether kde offers you to do it for you or not |
| 18:49.44 | kyndig | yeah; I know, I can do it alternate ways; I just wanted to use kde for it. It works in kde3 |
| 18:49.52 | pedepy | maybe it's in the works i udnno |
| 18:49.56 | *** join/#kde Armand_Laptop (n=Armand@82-44-158-100.cable.ubr02.haye.blueyonder.co.uk) |
| 18:50.01 | pedepy | ive never seen kde4 past beta 2 to be honest |
| 18:50.05 | kyndig | heh |
| 18:50.11 | kyndig | i'm using svn |
| 18:50.12 | pedepy | im a little too afraid to switch for now |
| 18:50.15 | pedepy | only livecd's so far |
| 18:50.23 | pedepy | well thats .. courageous :) |
| 18:50.31 | kyndig | I'm running both simultaneously |
| 18:50.45 | guguno | I am compiling the latest svn now,will I be able to use it permanently ? |
| 18:50.45 | pedepy | by the way since were on the subject i heard kde4's dialog had been dumbed down quite a bit |
| 18:50.52 | pedepy | by the way since were on the subject i heard kde4's dialog had been dumbed down quite a bit/ |
| 18:50.53 | *** join/#kde gza (n=gza@ax313-2-82-226-240-178.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 18:50.54 | pedepy | oosp |
| 18:51.00 | pedepy | MrGrim: you still here ? |
| 18:51.21 | *** join/#kde kirun (n=kirun@129.216.125.91.gr7.adsl.brightview.com) |
| 18:52.21 | MrGrim | pedepy: I'm pretty sure someone is working on a webkit kpart, but khtml isn't going anywhere and will remain the default |
| 18:52.21 | *** join/#kde root__ (n=root@89.38.216.30) |
| 18:52.25 | kyndig | guguno: permanently; far from it |
| 18:52.42 | *** join/#kde cvw (n=cvw@65.44.172.223) |
| 18:52.47 | kyndig | but it's progressing awesomely |
| 18:52.53 | *** join/#kde polz (n=polz@cpe-213-157-235-31.dynamic.amis.net) |
| 18:52.57 | pedepy | thats cool |
| 18:53.00 | *** join/#kde Pinaraf (n=moi@ALille-251-1-53-204.w82-127.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 18:53.09 | guguno | as far as it doesn't crash all the time its fine for me :) |
| 18:53.29 | kyndig | heh; just don't try changing too many settings then... |
| 18:53.31 | smacnay | can tracker index kmail - I see it in the preferences but cannot access it to make it do so. |
| 18:53.58 | cvw | If I Alt-F2 and type in a script name, my kde setup is currently executing bash scripts in Konsole, which doesn't go away when it is finished. I'd prefer if kde would just execute the script in the background, no konsole. Is there such a setting for this? |
| 18:54.32 | annma | not yet |
| 18:54.50 | cvw | annma: is "not yet" for me or smacnay? |
| 18:55.05 | annma | for you |
| 18:55.09 | cvw | k |
| 18:55.43 | cvw | damn, this is annoying :/ |
| 18:56.10 | *** part/#kde Kragnerac (n=Michael@cpe-65-26-156-150.cinci.res.rr.com) |
| 18:56.35 | *** join/#kde kirun (n=kirun@129.216.125.91.gr7.adsl.brightview.com) |
| 18:57.06 | *** join/#kde hirion (n=hirion@nrbg-4dbf146d.pool.einsundeins.de) |
| 18:57.51 | *** join/#kde blueyed (n=daniel@pdpc/supporter/active/blueyed) |
| 18:58.15 | *** join/#kde lutz_ (n=lutz@dslb-084-061-020-214.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 18:58.24 | *** join/#kde fengshaun (n=fengshau@blk-215-80-155.eastlink.ca) |
| 18:58.39 | annma | so log into kde4 then in konsole type |
| 18:58.45 | annma | killall plasma && plasma |
| 18:58.49 | *** join/#kde bjantscher (n=bjantsch@M2611P020.adsl.highway.telekom.at) |
| 18:58.59 | annma | then try to add a widget and look at the output |
| 18:59.00 | fengshaun | how can I 'run' konsole |
| 18:59.11 | *** join/#kde Macrob (n=Macrob@dslb-084-061-020-214.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 18:59.11 | fengshaun | i can't run anything |
| 18:59.22 | annma | then your install is hosed |
| 18:59.26 | *** part/#kde Macrob (n=Macrob@dslb-084-061-020-214.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 18:59.29 | annma | install from your distro instead |
| 18:59.36 | fengshaun | doesn't have packages |
| 18:59.39 | annma | alt F2 does not work? |
| 18:59.47 | annma | what is this distro? |
| 19:00.05 | fengshaun | f8 |
| 19:00.09 | fengshaun | fedora |
| 19:00.12 | fengshaun | no doesn't work |
| 19:00.43 | *** join/#kde kde_true_ (n=kde@90.150.239.223) |
| 19:00.46 | annma | I am quite sure Fedora has kde4 packages |
| 19:01.04 | fengshaun | not yet, compiling as we speak |
| 19:01.14 | annma | why are they so late? |
| 19:01.25 | fengshaun | they planned to have it for 4.0.1 |
| 19:01.31 | fengshaun | but peer pressure! |
| 19:01.49 | *** join/#kde Liquid_Fire_ (n=liquidfi@78.159.145.196) |
| 19:02.01 | *** part/#kde cvw (n=cvw@65.44.172.223) |
| 19:02.08 | fengshaun | anyway, how can I fix this thing! |
| 19:02.37 | *** join/#kde nitiniu (n=mirshafi@84-217-27-246.tn.glocalnet.net) |
| 19:03.13 | *** join/#kde vorian (n=steve@ubuntu/member/pdpc.supporter.active.Vorian) |
| 19:03.45 | *** join/#kde visik7 (n=dksakd@unaffiliated/visik7) |
| 19:04.06 | *** join/#kde siakattack (n=siakatta@82.197.121.86) |
| 19:04.28 | fengshaun | hey annma |
| 19:04.29 | *** join/#kde habdel (n=tiger@vb1-37.wlan.uni-bonn.de) |
| 19:04.35 | fengshaun | I ran plasma in gnome |
| 19:04.38 | Armand_Laptop | I tryed to install KDE4 from the F8 Dev repos myself.. but couldn't resolve a dependancy issue. |
| 19:04.48 | annma | lame Armand_Laptop |
| 19:04.56 | Armand_Laptop | I'll be trying again later. :D |
| 19:04.59 | annma | fengshaun: and it works? |
| 19:04.59 | fengshaun | and I have an output now |
| 19:05.05 | *** join/#kde smurfslover (n=smurfslo@d51534032.access.telenet.be) |
| 19:05.07 | fengshaun | it showed me the panel |
| 19:05.09 | fengshaun | but |
| 19:05.10 | *** join/#kde rakekniven (n=mark@mnhm-590f5520.pool.einsundeins.de) |
| 19:05.11 | fengshaun | still |
| 19:05.19 | fengshaun | 'This object could not be created |
| 19:05.21 | annma | fengshaun: first, you use the same user than kde3? |
| 19:05.29 | fengshaun | I don't have kde3 |
| 19:05.34 | fengshaun | I uninstalled it! |
| 19:05.46 | *** join/#kde boubbin (n=boubbin@80-248-247-190.cust.suomicom.fi) |
| 19:05.58 | rakekniven | Hello, can anybody point me to a rpm for kmail-kde4 package for opensuse 10.3? |
| 19:06.25 | *** join/#kde Ashrak (n=ashrak@p5499AABB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 19:06.28 | rakekniven | I found many kde 4 rpms and installed the base, but I miss kdepim for kde 4 |
| 19:06.49 | smurfslover | there's no kde4 version of kdepim (kmail etc...) |
| 19:06.51 | annma | fengshauo, do you use a new user?n: s |
| 19:06.51 | *** join/#kde mxttie (n=mattie@kotnet-146.kulnet.kuleuven.be) |
| 19:06.55 | fengshaun | annma: do you know what is the problem? |
| 19:06.56 | annma | smurfslover: no |
| 19:07.02 | annma | fengshaun: YOU answer first |
| 19:07.10 | rakekniven | Why? |
| 19:07.20 | smurfslover | kdepim wasn't ready for 4.0.0 |
| 19:07.26 | fengshaun | oh |
| 19:07.28 | fengshaun | umm |
| 19:07.32 | rakekniven | Is there any schedule? |
| 19:07.39 | fengshaun | I only have one user |
| 19:07.44 | *** join/#kde DexterF (n=dexter@ip-78-94-185-206.PH-1511G-BSR64K-04.ish.de) |
| 19:08.01 | smurfslover | you can expect 4.1 in 6 to 9 months they told me |
| 19:08.06 | annma | fengshaun: so paste in PASTEBIN your script to run kde4 |
| 19:08.06 | SSJ_GZ | rakekniven: http://software-libre.rudd-o.com/KDE_4.0.0_emergency_FAQ#Is_KDEPIM_.28Kontact.2C_KMail_etc.29_Available_for_KDE_4.0.0.3F |
| 19:08.07 | Armand_Laptop | rakekniven: Nah, they can't load teh PIM, and can't make a schedule for it. :P |
| 19:08.12 | smurfslover | but there will be 4.0.1... |
| 19:08.28 | fengshaun | annma: i only typed: plasma |
| 19:08.56 | rakekniven | So, how to read my emails on my opensuse 10.3 /kde 4 system? |
| 19:09.08 | annma | fengshaun: you do not have a script to run kde4? where are your env vars then? |
| 19:09.34 | smurfslover | with the 3.5.8 kdepim |
| 19:09.49 | fengshaun | annma: oh, ummm...do you mean /usr/local/bin/startkde? |
| 19:10.09 | rakekniven | Will give it a try. I mean kde 3 and kde 4 on one box |
| 19:10.18 | *** join/#kde insulina_ (n=insulina@bl4-234-103.dsl.telepac.pt) |
| 19:10.29 | annma | fengshaun: I mean the env vars you are told to set on techbase page |
| 19:10.45 | *** join/#kde funkyou (n=dEletemE@e179143069.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 19:10.54 | fengshaun | annma: /usr/share/kde.desktop?? |
| 19:11.10 | *** join/#kde slundell (n=slundell@83.223.29.13) |
| 19:11.11 | annma | fengshaun: if I was you I'd restart the tutorial from the start |
| 19:11.15 | *** join/#kde hermier (n=hermier@frugalware/developer/hermier) |
| 19:11.19 | fengshaun | oh |
| 19:11.21 | annma | or I'll wait Fedora get the packages |
| 19:11.40 | annma | Fedora is right: the 4.0.0 is mainly a development plateform release |
| 19:11.41 | fengshaun | annma: no actually I'd rather learn how to build 'correctly' |
| 19:11.54 | annma | for that you read the doc carefully |
| 19:12.18 | fengshaun | ok, now how can I uninstall the things I compiled for kde4? |
| 19:12.32 | annma | where did you install? |
| 19:12.41 | *** join/#kde Coltranex (n=smallnow@ip68-7-220-241.sd.sd.cox.net) |
| 19:12.43 | fengshaun | /usr/local/ I think |
| 19:12.48 | annma | boooooooooh |
| 19:12.57 | fengshaun | what? |
| 19:12.58 | annma | that's NOT what the doc say at all |
| 19:13.07 | annma | so you did not follow the install guide |
| 19:13.11 | fengshaun | I didn't actually follow the docs! |
| 19:13.14 | annma | no wonder nothing starts |
| 19:13.18 | fengshaun | hahaha |
| 19:13.19 | Coltranex | anyone know how to make it so on a maximized window, clicking on the furthest right accesses a windows scrollbar? Default behavior in compiz and kwin don't do it... |
| 19:13.38 | fengshaun | annma: how can I really find out where did I install it? |
| 19:13.53 | *** join/#kde kayo_ (n=kayo@189.27.13.84.adsl.gvt.net.br) |
| 19:13.53 | annma | rerun make install and read |
| 19:14.02 | fengshaun | ok |
| 19:14.03 | annma | just read |
| 19:15.21 | fengshaun | yes, /usr/local |
| 19:15.29 | fengshaun | now how can I uninstall everything? |
| 19:15.30 | annma | so your info was wrong |
| 19:15.38 | *** join/#kde smacnay (n=smacnay@bas3-kitchener06-1096642068.dsl.bell.ca) |
| 19:15.41 | annma | you need su to install here |
| 19:15.47 | fengshaun | yes |
| 19:15.54 | smacnay | does tracker work well in kde or is there another indexing app? |
| 19:16.29 | fengshaun | annma: so what do you suggest I do? |
| 19:16.39 | *** join/#kde pedepy2 (n=paul@bas1-montreal02-1096724690.dsl.bell.ca) |
| 19:17.33 | *** join/#kde sabayonlive-1842 (n=sabayonu@pool-96-228-106-222.albyny.east.verizon.net) |
| 19:19.08 | annma | issue su -c 'make uninstall' in all source dirs |
| 19:19.33 | annma | NEVER install experimental stuff as root fengshaun, never |
| 19:19.44 | *** join/#kde johnsen (n=johnsen@pc-10-249.skjoldhoej.dk) |
| 19:19.52 | fengshaun | annma: ok! |
| 19:19.55 | fengshaun | make uninstall |
| 19:21.00 | *** join/#kde peppe (n=peppe@unaffiliated/peppe) |
| 19:23.17 | *** join/#kde meister_ (n=meister@CPE001310d428f3-CM001bd7ac2782.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) |
| 19:25.23 | annma | and? |
| 19:25.27 | Armand_Laptop | hehe |
| 19:25.28 | *** join/#kde gourdin (n=adept@dau94-8-88-166-31-178.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 19:25.33 | annma | why would taht be a problem? |
| 19:25.34 | Armand_Laptop | It's good to have a test bunneh. :) |
| 19:25.58 | Armand_Laptop | It's caused a few app errors so far, nothing serious though |
| 19:26.56 | Armand_Laptop | Well, I'll subject this laptop to ANYTHING.. |
| 19:27.17 | Armand_Laptop | I have a wifi antenna screw plug sticking out from under the keyboard atm. :P |
| 19:27.26 | annma | lol |
| 19:27.35 | *** join/#kde marc_ (n=marc@p50914166.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 19:27.37 | *** join/#kde argnel (i=beezle@konversation/developer/argonel) |
| 19:27.44 | Armand_Laptop | My woktenna is awesome! ^_^ |
| 19:28.19 | fengshaun | annma: done uninstalling |
| 19:28.21 | fengshaun | now? |
| 19:28.50 | annma | http://techbase.kde.org/index.php?title=Getting_Started/Build/KDE4 |
| 19:28.51 | *** join/#kde sabayonlive-1157 (n=sabayonu@adsl-dyn-88-208-137-10.heliweb.de) |
| 19:28.52 | *** join/#kde ariel (n=ariel@156.17.231.200) |
| 19:29.02 | annma | if you want to build you exatly follow that |
| 19:29.10 | annma | but I advise you to wait |
| 19:29.11 | Nyle | hi |
| 19:29.37 | fengshaun | annma: I'll follow that, it's better than waiting! ;) |
| 19:30.02 | *** join/#kde blendtux (n=wstudio@ip56500490.direct-adsl.nl) |
| 19:30.50 | *** join/#kde ServerSide (n=home_deb@77.197.163.19) |
| 19:31.08 | *** join/#kde aleksanteri (n=cogwheel@unaffiliated/aleksanteri) |
| 19:31.14 | *** join/#kde gourdin (n=adept@dau94-8-88-166-31-178.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 19:31.29 | *** join/#kde cbr (n=dell@84-50-129-123-dsl.rkv.estpak.ee) |
| 19:32.32 | *** join/#kde gk (n=gk@194.1.144.14) |
| 19:32.56 | *** join/#kde Tomasu (n=moose@S0106001bfcce6c34.ed.shawcable.net) |
| 19:33.26 | *** join/#kde qupada (n=qupada@203-96-144-250.cable.paradise.net.nz) |
| 19:33.27 | gk | hello, I have strange problem with t61p's keyboard under Linux |
| 19:33.34 | gk | under console the keyboard works |
| 19:33.40 | gk | undex X too |
| 19:33.50 | gk | but as soon as I enable keyobard layouts in KDE it stops working |
| 19:33.59 | *** join/#kde shadok (n=shad@unaffiliated/shadok) |
| 19:34.00 | gk | = no cursor keys and pgup pgdown |
| 19:34.16 | gk | and it won't work until I disable that option and re-login |
| 19:34.31 | gk | and it also does not transmit these keys over NX session |
| 19:34.45 | gk | even when turned off in both local and remote KDE |
| 19:35.03 | gk | any idea what could be wrong? |
| 19:35.11 | gk | KDE 3.5.8 here |
| 19:36.06 | gk | any special kb layout I should select? or X settings? |
| 19:36.06 | gk | any thinkpad owners here at all? :) |
| 19:36.24 | *** join/#kde luke__ (n=luke@comm700-c0801-dhcp008.bu.edu) |
| 19:36.27 | *** join/#kde sabayonlive-1231 (n=sabayonu@c-76-116-10-193.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) |
| 19:36.27 | Prof_Frink | gk: Yep |
| 19:37.13 | *** join/#kde jamin2288 (n=jamin228@dyn-62-56-105-44.dslaccess.co.uk) |
| 19:37.14 | Prof_Frink | I've not had any keyboard problems on my R61 |
| 19:37.19 | *** join/#kde soa2ii (n=soa2ii@i59F54FBE.versanet.de) |
| 19:37.40 | *** join/#kde ron__ (n=ron@adsl-76-214-0-48.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net) |
| 19:37.58 | guguno | I just started plasma inside kde3 it looks great. :) |
| 19:39.00 | *** join/#kde ganymede (n=ganymede@unaffiliated/ganymede) |
| 19:39.14 | gk | Prof_Frink: hmm... do you have keyboard layouts enabled in config center? |
| 19:39.26 | *** join/#kde workaphobia (n=workapho@ditto-37.dynamic.rpi.edu) |
| 19:39.50 | *** join/#kde sabayonlive-1901 (n=sabayonu@137.186.87.11) |
| 19:40.04 | *** join/#kde HelgeD (n=deller@mnhm-590f51cb.pool.einsundeins.de) |
| 19:40.35 | *** part/#kde HelgeD (n=deller@mnhm-590f51cb.pool.einsundeins.de) |
| 19:40.40 | Prof_Frink | Umm, pass, I'm on KDE4 here |
| 19:41.47 | *** join/#kde PhilRod (n=phil@cpc3-oxfd3-0-0-cust276.oxfd.cable.ntl.com) |
| 19:42.30 | *** join/#kde ploo (n=lbz@c-67-166-39-125.hsd1.co.comcast.net) |
| 19:42.42 | ploo | are their any kde4 precompiled pkgs? |
| 19:42.47 | ganymede | if oxygen icons are in SVG, does that mean we can set the icons to any size in dolphin/konqueror? |
| 19:42.56 | ganymede | ploo: yes, your distro will provide them |
| 19:43.04 | *** join/#kde malin (n=malin@90-156-83-122.magma-net.pl) |
| 19:43.13 | ganymede | ploo: s/their/there/ |
| 19:43.31 | SSJ_GZ | ganymede: Not yet - currently, icon SVG are pre-rendered to various sizes of PNG. |
| 19:43.58 | ganymede | SSJ_GZ: so in the tarballs, they come as PNG, not SVG? |
| 19:43.58 | SSJ_GZ | ganymede: Qt's SVG renderer is missing some features so cannot render many Oxygen icons properly. |
| 19:44.13 | SSJ_GZ | ganymede: I think they come as both. |
| 19:44.17 | ganymede | hmm =( |
| 19:44.24 | ganymede | i was really looking forward to 512x512 icons |
| 19:44.28 | SSJ_GZ | ganymede: But the iconloader currently picks the PNG versions. |
| 19:45.06 | ganymede | it shouldn't be too hard to make a new directory for 512x512 icons, as rendered with rsvg or something, right? |
| 19:45.33 | SSJ_GZ | ganymede: Dunno :) Getting KDE to load them may or may not be difficult, though. |
| 19:45.33 | *** part/#kde malin (n=malin@90-156-83-122.magma-net.pl) |
| 19:46.52 | ganymede | qt will render the svg using hardware acceleration when available? or just grab the output of rsvg and display it? or is the latter a fallback option? |
| 19:47.38 | SSJ_GZ | ganymede: I don't know; sorry. |
| 19:47.44 | ganymede | no problem |
| 19:47.49 | ganymede | i'll just google around |
| 19:49.38 | ganymede | i don't know qt too well but i wonder what happens if i throw it into a QGLWidget using QSvgRenderer... =) |
| 19:52.31 | *** join/#kde darth (n=darth@86.160.60.123) |
| 19:52.56 | *** join/#kde meister_ (n=meister@CPE001310d428f3-CM001bd7ac2782.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) |
| 19:52.57 | *** join/#kde plus_m2 (n=sabayonu@x101-150-103.dhcp.umn.edu) |
| 19:53.23 | *** join/#kde Ci-Dev (n=ci-dev@p54BDE159.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 19:53.45 | ganymede | (i obviously have no clue what i'm talking about) |
| 19:54.00 | pedepy2 | and to think i could be in miami right now.. |
| 19:54.02 | *** join/#kde eNTi|notebook (n=nt@85.127.149.54) |
| 19:54.27 | *** join/#kde vbgunz (n=vbgunz@217-98.127-70.tampabay.res.rr.com) |
| 19:55.43 | *** join/#kde |igor_ (n=igor@79.125.235.215) |
| 19:55.52 | *** join/#kde ServerSide (n=home_deb@77.197.163.19) |
| 19:56.09 | *** join/#kde DLange (n=dlange@p57A32BDB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 19:57.41 | plus_m2 | Are there any CLI programs that can use KIOslaves, like for example kcp? |
| 19:59.31 | *** join/#kde PolitikerNEU (n=Politike@vie-078-142-129-055.dsl.sil.at) |
| 20:03.00 | *** join/#kde fengshaun (n=fengshau@blk-215-80-155.eastlink.ca) |
| 20:03.35 | fengshaun | annma: aha, it's building kdepimlibs and in /home/kde4/kde/ |
| 20:04.33 | annma | so kdelibs is done? |
| 20:04.37 | fengshaun | yea |
| 20:04.51 | annma | :) |
| 20:05.02 | fengshaun | I hope this will work |
| 20:05.08 | *** join/#kde guillemborrell (n=guillem@84.77.182.22) |
| 20:05.40 | fengshaun | what is the 'staying up to date' part? |
| 20:05.46 | fengshaun | it will update from branch or trunk? |
| 20:05.54 | ganymede | wait, i can just resize my crystal svg icons to 512x512... |
| 20:06.27 | *** join/#kde aleksanteri (n=cogwheel@dsl-sjkbrasgw1-fe80f900-132.dhcp.inet.fi) |
| 20:06.43 | *** join/#kde sebastianbf (n=seba@190-95-20-96.bk17-dsl.surnet.cl) |
| 20:06.50 | *** join/#kde ponto (n=ponto@p5087D5C2.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 20:06.59 | annma | gotta go |
| 20:07.03 | sebastianbf | hello |
| 20:07.11 | *** join/#kde saint (i=saint@c211-30-199-4.carlnfd3.nsw.optusnet.com.au) |
| 20:07.23 | sebastianbf | i need some help please, how can i add a widget to the panel in kde4? |
| 20:07.47 | *** part/#kde rakekniven (n=mark@mnhm-590f5520.pool.einsundeins.de) |
| 20:08.03 | *** join/#kde Freakingme| (n=Freaking@ns3.hostdelight.net) |
| 20:08.03 | SSJ_GZ | plus_m2: kfmclient --commands |
| 20:08.06 | *** join/#kde konadr (n=Kon@unaffiliated/konadr) |
| 20:09.12 | *** join/#kde cesi (n=raptor@C4415.karlshof.wh.tu-darmstadt.de) |
| 20:09.23 | *** join/#kde DaSkreech_ (n=chatzill@72.252.37.206) |
| 20:09.42 | *** join/#kde oever (n=vandenoe@ip5657eb5b.direct-adsl.nl) |
| 20:10.34 | *** join/#kde a_thing (n=notroot@libervis/athing) |
| 20:14.40 | ELITE_x | back |
| 20:15.22 | Armand_Laptop | front |
| 20:15.46 | ELITE_x | lol |
| 20:15.54 | JordanC | Side ta side |
| 20:16.04 | ELITE_x | :i |
| 20:16.13 | JordanC | Take it back now y'all |
| 20:16.16 | Armand_Laptop | JordanC: That's for you and your partner to discuss.. ;) |
| 20:16.20 | JordanC | This song about to get funky |
| 20:16.35 | JordanC | Hehe |
| 20:16.44 | ELITE_x | which song? |
| 20:16.56 | JordanC | Armand_Laptop: You come for me in the worst of places, you come for me you come and try to take me home |
| 20:17.05 | ELITE_x | lol |
| 20:17.09 | Armand_Laptop | hahaha |
| 20:17.11 | JordanC | I'm always in need and I sought to be reciprocating |
| 20:17.12 | Armand_Laptop | You wish. ;) |
| 20:17.16 | ganymede | in a service menu Exec key, can i get the filename take away the extension? (i know the extension will always be .flv) or must i throw a bash script in there are use basename? |
| 20:17.20 | JordanC | I love this song |
| 20:17.31 | JordanC | "youu and I together, but only one of us in love... and everybody knows.." |
| 20:17.37 | ELITE_x | o_O |
| 20:17.44 | JordanC | Ryan Adams ;) |
| 20:17.47 | MrGrim | very...... poetic |
| 20:17.54 | JordanC | Also, try this killer CC music |
| 20:17.55 | JordanC | http://tinyload.com/XK2ePx |
| 20:18.00 | Armand_Laptop | Never heard of him.. |
| 20:18.01 | *** part/#kde ripi (n=ripi@sd-1780.dedibox.fr) |
| 20:18.04 | JordanC | Persephone's Bees rule 8) |
| 20:18.04 | ELITE_x | more like metallica |
| 20:18.14 | *** join/#kde SmallR2002 (n=SmallR20@79-66-107-19.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) |
| 20:18.41 | kunal_ | which version of PCRE is required for kdelibs to build? I installed libpcre3-dev package on kubuntu as the techbase page says, but still cmake complains. any ideas? |
| 20:18.43 | ELITE_x | ;) |
| 20:19.46 | *** join/#kde growled_ (n=growl@ivu.users.odessa.comstar.net.ua) |
| 20:20.22 | *** part/#kde workaphobia (n=workapho@ditto-37.dynamic.rpi.edu) |
| 20:21.53 | JordanC | I like thaty song, ELITE_x |
| 20:21.53 | *** join/#kde fintan (n=fintan@87-198-37-54.ptr.magnet.ie) |
| 20:22.10 | JordanC | kunal_: What's cmake's error? |
| 20:22.17 | JordanC | "pcre not found" ? |
| 20:25.35 | *** join/#kde Beelze (n=rtr@e182012156.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 20:25.39 | *** join/#kde olih (n=olih@lns-bzn-48f-81-56-218-88.adsl.proxad.net) |
| 20:26.52 | *** join/#kde justs0me (n=justs0me@ip24-250-211-29.ga.at.cox.net) |
| 20:26.52 | kunal_ | JordanC: this is the error "The PCRE regular expression library has not been found. KJS requires PCRE >= 4.5 to function properly. " |
| 20:26.56 | *** join/#kde milliams (n=matt@cpc1-warw5-0-0-cust825.sol2.cable.ntl.com) |
| 20:27.14 | *** join/#kde grandi (n=grandi@hoas-fe2ddd00-124.dhcp.inet.fi) |
| 20:27.39 | *** join/#kde xenoterracide (n=xenoterr@207.74.87.99) |
| 20:27.44 | JordanC | libpcre3 |
| 20:27.50 | JordanC | You're on Ubuntu? |
| 20:27.55 | JordanC | :P |
| 20:28.34 | kunal_ | yes |
| 20:28.37 | JordanC | Ah |
| 20:28.41 | JordanC | One moment :) |
| 20:29.20 | JordanC | Okay |
| 20:29.24 | JordanC | kunal_: Manually build http://freshmeat.net/redir/pcre/7686/url_tgz/pcre-7.5.tar.gz |
| 20:29.26 | JordanC | Orrr... |
| 20:29.58 | JordanC | Use the RPM :) |
| 20:30.01 | *** join/#kde jamin2288 (n=jamin228@dyn-62-56-105-44.dslaccess.co.uk) |
| 20:30.14 | JordanC | pcre-4.5-4.el4_5.4.i386.rpm |
| 20:30.19 | *** join/#kde Frost^ (n=sweiss@CBL217-132-151-129.bb.netvision.net.il) |
| 20:30.37 | pinotree | kunal_: rm CMakeCache.txt in the kdelibs builddir, and rerun cmake |
| 20:30.49 | kunal_ | ok |
| 20:30.57 | *** join/#kde blendtux (n=wstudio@ip56500490.direct-adsl.nl) |
| 20:31.03 | *** join/#kde michael (n=michael@212-41-106-213.adsl.solnet.ch) |
| 20:31.17 | JordanC | Ah |
| 20:31.53 | *** join/#kde rpeter (n=arklinux@pool-0175f.externet.hu) |
| 20:34.07 | ELITE_x | nice JordanC |
| 20:34.08 | ELITE_x | :) |
| 20:34.19 | *** join/#kde fengshaun (n=fengshau@blk-215-80-155.eastlink.ca) |
| 20:34.30 | fengshaun | annma: :( still the result is the same |
| 20:34.46 | fengshaun | annma: shows me the exact same thing |
| 20:35.01 | kunal_ | pinotree: removing CMakeCache.txt does not solve the problem |
| 20:35.02 | *** join/#kde camden (n=camden@ancnat2.apto.aptalaska.net) |
| 20:35.09 | camden | hi everybody. |
| 20:36.43 | *** join/#kde agnitio_ (n=magnus@h-91-126-123-244.wholesale.rp80.se) |
| 20:37.10 | *** join/#kde lovedaddy (n=greg@5acf997e.bb.sky.com) |
| 20:37.37 | *** part/#kde rpeter (n=arklinux@pool-0175f.externet.hu) |
| 20:37.38 | *** part/#kde camden (n=camden@ancnat2.apto.aptalaska.net) |
| 20:39.25 | kunal_ | i just rm -rf'ed the kdelibs build folder and it is working now |
| 20:39.48 | *** join/#kde root__ (n=root@200.203.73.18) |
| 20:40.20 | *** join/#kde justs0me (n=justs0me@ip24-250-211-29.ga.at.cox.net) |
| 20:43.18 | *** join/#kde membrive (n=membrive@unaffiliated/membrive) |
| 20:44.02 | *** join/#kde _silasdm (n=silasdm@83.101.21.122) |
| 20:45.59 | *** join/#kde sbriesen (n=stefan@pD9519622.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 20:46.16 | *** join/#kde MrGrim (i=mrgrim@74-142-55-109.dhcp.insightbb.com) |
| 20:53.42 | *** join/#kde tampakrap (n=tuxicity@athedsl-355373.home.otenet.gr) |
| 20:55.32 | *** join/#kde Qrawl (n=qrawl@71-220-206-103.eugn.qwest.net) |
| 20:55.47 | *** join/#kde Paddy_EIRE (n=patrick@78.150.251.4) |
| 20:56.50 | *** join/#kde Paddy_EIRE (n=patrick@78.150.251.4) |
| 20:56.59 | *** join/#kde Beelze (n=rtr@e182012156.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 20:57.02 | *** join/#kde Smooph (n=Smooph@e180146059.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 20:57.06 | *** join/#kde Plamkata__ (n=root@78.90.114.178) |
| 20:59.52 | *** join/#kde Deathcell (n=Deathcel@pD9E64554.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 21:02.02 | *** join/#kde jalbert (n=jalbert@c-67-175-189-128.hsd1.il.comcast.net) |
| 21:03.19 | *** join/#kde arthur_dent_74 (n=arthur_d@p54A5A374.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 21:05.33 | *** join/#kde workaphobia (n=workapho@ditto-37.dynamic.rpi.edu) |
| 21:06.04 | *** join/#kde nameless (n=kevin@cpe-24-209-63-138.neo.res.rr.com) |
| 21:06.32 | nameless | anyone know what the fedora channel is |
| 21:06.48 | nameless | or on what network its on if not freenode |
| 21:06.48 | workaphobia | What's the deal with freedb these days? Is freedb2 used by most people instead, or are they both active, or what? Which do kde apps like kscd and the audiocd ioslave use? |
| 21:07.00 | *** join/#kde dave__ (n=dave@pD954F749.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 21:09.33 | *** join/#kde cdwinslow (n=david@cpe-66-108-80-238.nyc.res.rr.com) |
| 21:10.34 | *** join/#kde vorian (n=steve@ubuntu/member/pdpc.supporter.active.Vorian) |
| 21:11.46 | *** join/#kde jevez (n=erto@d54C4398F.access.telenet.be) |
| 21:11.56 | *** join/#kde flamma (n=flamma@host-212-149-199-41.kpylaajakaista.net) |
| 21:12.15 | *** part/#kde nameless (n=kevin@cpe-24-209-63-138.neo.res.rr.com) |
| 21:13.40 | *** join/#kde amalon_ (n=james@87.115.21.158.plusnet.pcl-ag01.dyn.plus.net) |
| 21:18.01 | *** join/#kde JW (n=JW@cvs.claborn.net) |
| 21:18.45 | *** join/#kde ovis (n=deadly1@78-61-196-158.ip.zebra.lt) |
| 21:19.16 | *** join/#kde Jejem (n=Jejem@77.196.233.11) |
| 21:19.21 | *** join/#kde vandenoever (n=vandenoe@ip5657eb5b.direct-adsl.nl) |
| 21:20.08 | *** join/#kde fengshaun (n=armin@blk-215-80-155.eastlink.ca) |
| 21:20.13 | vandenoever | so where is kcontrol? |
| 21:20.37 | workaphobia | dunno, I always alt+f2 it |
| 21:21.07 | *** join/#kde friedchips (n=KVIrc@43-100-148-91.adsl.beotel.net) |
| 21:21.30 | *** join/#kde edgy (n=edgy@90.148.249.234) |
| 21:22.00 | *** join/#kde meister_ (n=meister@CPE001310d428f3-CM001bd7ac2782.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) |
| 21:22.42 | edgy | hi, I read somewhere that kde4 applications would work in windows and mac, is this true? |
| 21:22.51 | *** join/#kde MrNobody (n=chris@p57BD2221.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 21:23.47 | *** join/#kde ovis (n=deadly1@78-61-196-158.ip.zebra.lt) |
| 21:24.22 | vandenoever | keyboard focus keeps disappearing |
| 21:24.32 | vandenoever | i've yet to find out how i can get it back |
| 21:25.05 | *** join/#kde ServerSide (n=home_deb@77.197.163.19) |
| 21:25.13 | vandenoever | when i'm typing, the keybard output simply does appear |
| 21:25.16 | *** join/#kde teatime (n=jens@213-64-148-31-no39.tbcn.telia.com) |
| 21:25.22 | vandenoever | i think this is a focus problem in kwin but i'm not sure |
| 21:25.29 | vandenoever | it happens when running over nx |
| 21:25.33 | vandenoever | has anyone seen this? |
| 21:25.45 | *** join/#kde mordjah (n=mordjah@168.156.172.61) |
| 21:25.58 | ServerSide | i need help, with installing kde4: http://pastebin.ca/857696 (fucking aptitude score scared me) |
| 21:26.18 | *** join/#kde al (n=al@pool-151-204-201-169.pskn.east.verizon.net) |
| 21:27.08 | *** join/#kde lado (n=lado@wsip-24-249-58-186.ks.ks.cox.net) |
| 21:27.21 | *** join/#kde kakalto (n=kakalto@60.234.205.110) |
| 21:29.39 | *** join/#kde shadok (n=shad@unaffiliated/shadok) |
| 21:30.00 | *** join/#kde Paddy_EIRE_ (n=patrick@78.150.251.4) |
| 21:30.28 | *** join/#kde harmental (n=ricardo@AGrenoble-152-1-12-183.w82-122.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 21:32.33 | *** join/#kde membrive (n=membrive@unaffiliated/membrive) |
| 21:33.51 | vandenoever | edgy: there's a fresh mac snapshot (see http://planet.kde.org/) i'm not sure about the windows version |
| 21:34.10 | *** join/#kde boom1992 (n=lukas@pD9E19804.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 21:34.14 | vandenoever | they are not ready right now, but are being worked on |
| 21:35.05 | PhilRod | ServerSide: best place to ask is going to be #yourdistro |
| 21:35.15 | ServerSide | ok |
| 21:35.19 | ELITE_x | his problem is fixed |
| 21:35.24 | ELITE_x | :) |
| 21:35.26 | ServerSide | xD |
| 21:35.43 | ServerSide | There are now 4 broken [+4], 148 updates [-21]. |
| 21:35.54 | ELITE_x | just do what i said |
| 21:36.13 | ServerSide | errors met while execution: libkonq5 kdebase-runtime-data kdm konqueror |
| 21:36.23 | ServerSide | well letz rebuut |
| 21:36.31 | *** join/#kde cn28h (n=cn28h@pal-179-231.itap.purdue.edu) |
| 21:36.51 | ELITE_x | ServerSide: gimme ssh |
| 21:37.03 | ServerSide | lemme reboot and we will see |
| 21:37.12 | edgy | vandenoever: if there is a version for windows may I ask what's the difference between progrramming in qt4 or kde4? |
| 21:37.20 | ServerSide | coz i must config my router if someone wantz ssh me :p |
| 21:37.38 | ELITE_x | nice |
| 21:37.40 | ELITE_x | :P |
| 21:37.49 | ELITE_x | install screen |
| 21:38.00 | ServerSide | nah |
| 21:38.04 | ServerSide | lemme rebut i said |
| 21:38.04 | ELITE_x | you can see me with screen -r as root |
| 21:38.08 | ServerSide | ye |
| 21:38.15 | vandenoever | edgy: in kde4 you have more extra libraries for integrating with kde4 |
| 21:38.18 | ServerSide | but no :P |
| 21:38.22 | cn28h | I've got sort of an odd problem. After installing a package for compiz-fusion, when I load KDE kwin starts, but mysteriously exits, leaving now window manager. I can run fusion-icon manually and it brings up compiz-fusion. Now, I added it to my autostart but now kwin starts, exits, and then compiz takes over. Any idea how I can figure out why kwin exits, or how to set the default wm? |
| 21:38.23 | vandenoever | e.g. you have kio plugins and kparts |
| 21:38.49 | vandenoever | or standard dialogs and file metainfo classes |
| 21:39.02 | vandenoever | and you can more easily open other kde applications |
| 21:39.18 | vandenoever | you get more icons and a configuration framework |
| 21:39.59 | vandenoever | edgy: programmingwise it's very similar, kde4 offers more libs basically |
| 21:41.26 | edgy | vandenoever: so why wouldn't qt4 backport those libs to it's api? |
| 21:41.38 | *** join/#kde frelars (n=frelars@084202044116.customer.alfanett.no) |
| 21:41.41 | *** join/#kde saint_ (i=saint@c211-30-199-4.carlnfd3.nsw.optusnet.com.au) |
| 21:43.07 | *** join/#kde pedepy (n=kde4boy@bas1-montreal02-1096724690.dsl.bell.ca) |
| 21:43.11 | pedepy | okay im in kde4 now ... |
| 21:43.12 | vandenoever | edgy: because it would need to support them :-) |
| 21:43.15 | pedepy | i have no desktop icons |
| 21:43.22 | pedepy | but its a new user maybe thats normal |
| 21:43.24 | vandenoever | edgy: they actually did port some of them |
| 21:43.35 | pedepy | whre's the damn run dialog ? |
| 21:43.38 | vandenoever | edgy: e.g. phonon and webkit |
| 21:43.44 | vandenoever | pedepy: alt-f2 |
| 21:44.14 | *** join/#kde troy__ (n=troy@wnpgmb014vw-ad05-247-157.dynamic.mts.net) |
| 21:44.17 | *** join/#kde didkoddd (n=didkoddd@12-218-92-60.client.mchsi.com) |
| 21:44.22 | PhilRod | cn28h: set the KDEWM environment variable in your X startup script to point to the compiz window manager |
| 21:44.51 | cn28h | PhilRod, I use kdm, does that change anything? |
| 21:44.57 | PhilRod | or do: echo 'export KDEWM=/path/to/compiz' > ~/.kde/env/setup_kdewm.sh |
| 21:45.04 | cn28h | ah |
| 21:45.14 | PhilRod | cn28h: then the second option is your best one |
| 21:45.34 | *** join/#kde Qrawl (n=qrawl@71-220-206-103.eugn.qwest.net) |
| 21:45.42 | *** join/#kde MasseR (i=masse@nikita.tnnet.fi) |
| 21:45.42 | pedepy | again, alt f2 does nothing |
| 21:45.52 | *** join/#kde darkavanger (n=darkavan@196.203.245.64) |
| 21:46.17 | MasseR | Is it possible to define application shortkeys? For example in 3.5.8 I had alt+x opening a terminal |
| 21:46.31 | edgy | vandenoever: thanks for all the tips, so if I want to learn programming would your recommend grabbing a qt4 book or start from kde4 docs? |
| 21:46.31 | cn28h | PhilRod, if instead I put it in /opt/kde/env/setup_kdewm.sh it will be effective for all users? |
| 21:46.44 | PhilRod | not sure - let me see |
| 21:47.11 | vandenoever | edgy: it depends on what you want to learn, if you've never programmed before, you might want to start with something simple |
| 21:47.12 | SSJ_GZ | MasseR: I haven't seen the ability to do this in KDE4, yet. |
| 21:47.18 | MasseR | SSJ_GZ: Darn |
| 21:47.26 | vandenoever | edgy: set a goal for what you want to achieve and go from there |
| 21:47.43 | vandenoever | edgy: what experience do you have? |
| 21:47.50 | PhilRod | cn28h: yes, I think it will |
| 21:47.56 | cn28h | excellent, thanks |
| 21:48.44 | *** join/#kde Sir_Sid (n=sid@adsl-69-209-199-5.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net) |
| 21:48.50 | pedepy | so .. i got kwin running now ... where's all the eye candy ? |
| 21:49.00 | PhilRod | pedepy: it's behind you! |
| 21:49.10 | pedepy | seriously |
| 21:49.45 | tunisia | ls |
| 21:50.16 | pedepy | where's the settings system thing ? |
| 21:50.31 | DiDko | hey guys |
| 21:50.41 | DiDko | anybody know how to set up wireless for sabayon? |
| 21:50.47 | DiDko | 5:00.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications, Inc. AR5006EG 802.11 b/g Wireless PCI Express Adapter (rev 01) |
| 21:50.51 | DiDko | the model of the card |
| 21:50.56 | boom1992 | DiDko: #sabayon |
| 21:50.56 | SSJ_GZ | pedepy: systemsettings |
| 21:51.15 | pedepy | okay .. doesnt appear in kickoff |
| 21:51.27 | *** join/#kde sabayonlive-1053 (n=sabayonu@82-34-240-78.cable.ubr02.maid.blueyonder.co.uk) |
| 21:51.30 | SSJ_GZ | pedepy: Possibly with "-kde4" appended to the end, depending on distro. |
| 21:51.36 | *** join/#kde ttf (n=tom@ipx20310.ipxserver.de) |
| 21:51.41 | pedepy | is this where i'd activate composition for kwin? |
| 21:52.08 | ttf | I've recently seen some map which showed where kde devs come from and some other statistics |
| 21:52.15 | PhilRod | worldwide.kde.org |
| 21:52.20 | ttf | k - thanks |
| 21:52.22 | SSJ_GZ | pedepy: If you want a more direct way: Right-click on any KDE4 window ... |
| 21:52.37 | *** part/#kde workaphobia (n=workapho@ditto-37.dynamic.rpi.edu) |
| 21:53.15 | *** join/#kde level1 (n=level1@129.210.157.215) |
| 21:53.28 | *** join/#kde pedepy (n=kde4boy@bas1-montreal02-1096724690.dsl.bell.ca) |
| 21:53.34 | pedepy | uh that didnt do me any good |
| 21:53.50 | SSJ_GZ | [21:51] <SSJ_GZ> pedepy: If you want a more direct way: Right-click on any KDE4 window ... |
| 21:53.51 | pedepy | system settings says desktop effects are enabled |
| 21:54.00 | SSJ_GZ | pedepy: Oh. Dunno then. |
| 21:54.01 | pedepy | yeah I did that and it crashed it |
| 21:54.13 | level1 | hi, konqueror won't render a particular page correctly. Is there a way to just have konqueror go to a different page every time it attempts to go to that page? |
| 21:54.18 | ttf | PhilRod: there was a different site with stats about how many males and females commited, etc. |
| 21:54.20 | pedepy | i mean how am i supposed to see if it works ? |
| 21:54.28 | PhilRod | ttf: oh, you mean the commit digest |
| 21:54.28 | level1 | like a redirect, or changing the links? |
| 21:54.32 | SSJ_GZ | pedepy: If it crashes, it doesn't work. |
| 21:55.25 | PeterFA | SSJ_GZ, I love you. |
| 21:55.40 | SSJ_GZ | \o/ |
| 21:57.46 | *** join/#kde lado_ (n=lado@ip24-255-178-213.ks.ks.cox.net) |
| 21:59.07 | *** join/#kde HS^^ (n=jhhj@cc501335-a.mp1.dr.home.nl) |
| 21:59.13 | *** join/#kde wolf0129 (n=wolf@c-67-177-81-40.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) |
| 21:59.27 | HS^^ | probably asked a 1000 times. but when is kde 4.0.1 expected |
| 21:59.41 | HS^^ | or at least something that is a little bit improved |
| 22:00.13 | HS^^ | the dot.kde.org doesnt make any updates anymore since 4.0 |
| 22:00.28 | HS^^ | i think they want to have many comments or something on 4.0 article |
| 22:00.49 | wolf0129 | i have 2 hard disks installed on my comp but my comp is saving files to both disks. is there a way to set one disk as programs and one disk for personal files |
| 22:01.15 | PhilRod | HS^^: take a look at old release announcements. Work out how often it is between x.y..z releases - it'll be about that amount of time till 4.0.1 I expect |
| 22:01.26 | PhilRod | wolf0129: yes, ask in #linux-help or #yourdistro |
| 22:01.34 | *** join/#kde kayo (n=kayo@189.6.106.149) |
| 22:01.40 | wolf0129 | ty philrod |
| 22:01.57 | HS^^ | PhilRod i dont expect because 4.0 is a special case |
| 22:01.59 | *** part/#kde kayo (n=kayo@189.6.106.149) |
| 22:02.18 | HS^^ | so i expect actually a really fast 4.0.1 |
| 22:02.38 | HS^^ | expect is wrong word.. i predict |
| 22:03.02 | wolf0129 | philrod there is no one in them rooms is there somewhere else i can get this info |
| 22:03.13 | *** join/#kde Bugz (n=jturning@adsl-75-42-76-176.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) |
| 22:03.48 | PhilRod | wolf0129: #yourdistro (replace the 'yourdistro' with the name of your distro) |
| 22:04.10 | wolf0129 | philrod ty |
| 22:04.12 | jeekl | HS^^: end of january |
| 22:04.13 | *** join/#kde Sparki (n=sparki@alcatraz54.wohnheim.uni-kl.de) |
| 22:04.13 | ttf | PhilRod: right - found it thanks |
| 22:04.33 | Onyx | does anyone here know where amarok keeps its default icon? |
| 22:04.56 | *** join/#kde MetaMorfoziS (n=khmhm@3e44b1b2.adsl.enternet.hu) |
| 22:05.15 | PhilRod | Onyx: with the other icons |
| 22:05.34 | Onyx | PhilRod: With what other icons? It's not in /usr/share/pixmaps. |
| 22:05.36 | PhilRod | find `kde-config --prefix`/share/icons -iname '*amarok*' |
| 22:05.37 | *** join/#kde vandenoever (n=vandenoe@ip5657eb5b.direct-adsl.nl) |
| 22:05.55 | *** join/#kde hunt0r (n=hunt0r@dslb-088-064-062-197.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 22:06.05 | *** join/#kde ischKotz (n=bytejunk@dslb-084-057-240-225.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 22:06.12 | Onyx | PhilRod: So you're telling me its default is a "hicolor"? |
| 22:06.31 | PhilRod | what do you mean? I don't understand? |
| 22:06.44 | *** part/#kde ttf (n=tom@ipx20310.ipxserver.de) |
| 22:07.01 | *** join/#kde MrNobody (n=chris@p57BD2221.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 22:07.46 | Onyx | PhilRod: That returns icons from two themes... 'hicolor' and 'mono' |
| 22:08.18 | *** join/#kde Shadowriver (n=shadowri@h82-143-161-179-static.e-wro.net.pl) |
| 22:08.27 | PhilRod | Onyx: oh, you mean you were expecting it to appear in crystal? There's some complicated thing I don't understand with icons to do with fallbacks. I think hicolor is a fallback, so by putting it there they ensure that it gets picked up if your icon theme doesn't have an icon for it |
| 22:08.49 | PhilRod | I could be entirely wrong about that. But anyway, if you look at that icon, you'll see it is indeed the one you're looking for |
| 22:08.56 | Onyx | PhilRod: Ahhh, okay -- thanks for the info :) |
| 22:10.05 | *** join/#kde kirun (n=kirun@129.216.125.91.gr7.adsl.brightview.com) |
| 22:11.25 | *** join/#kde pedepy (n=paul@bas1-montreal02-1096575590.dsl.bell.ca) |
| 22:11.45 | *** join/#kde xxxxxx (n=xxxx@201.254.70.164) |
| 22:12.16 | *** join/#kde darkschneider (n=gab@62-101-126-224.ip.fastwebnet.it) |
| 22:13.31 | darkschneider | hello, using kde 3.x on debian standard install, when i use the "run.." in the menu, the background goes black, the menu bar is still there, and i can also open the menu to start new programs but the "desktop" is gone |
| 22:13.41 | darkschneider | any clue on how to fix this? |
| 22:13.56 | *** join/#kde DeviantPeer (n=dev@87-196-211-82.net.novis.pt) |
| 22:14.18 | darkschneider | exact versions are Qt: 3.3.7 KDE: 3.5.8 |
| 22:15.18 | kakalto | darkschneider: "debian standard install"? Lenny or Sid? what package did you use to install? |
| 22:15.27 | *** join/#kde DVSoftware (n=kvirc@91.143.218.34) |
| 22:15.31 | darkschneider | kakalto: right, sorry i mean etch |
| 22:16.13 | *** join/#kde Vaxu (n=vaxaren@adsl-36-5.regionline.fi) |
| 22:16.29 | kakalto | darkschneider: I thought only 3.5.7 was available for etch, even then, using backports? |
| 22:16.49 | darkschneider | yes backports is in my list |
| 22:17.27 | *** join/#kde PaulyWauly (n=PaulyWau@65.5.135.75) |
| 22:17.34 | *** part/#kde PaulyWauly (n=PaulyWau@65.5.135.75) |
| 22:17.39 | kakalto | darkschneider: what did packages did you install for kde? |
| 22:18.32 | *** part/#kde MrNobody (n=chris@p57BD2221.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 22:18.32 | darkschneider | mmm, let me ask apt, i have a shell there |
| 22:18.38 | *** join/#kde neversfelde (n=neversfe@nrbg-4dbf1e57.pool.einsundeins.de) |
| 22:19.15 | *** join/#kde jembouge (n=jembouge@gar31-4-82-240-199-14.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 22:19.21 | *** join/#kde Andrew67 (i=andrew67@206.248.84.86) |
| 22:19.27 | darkschneider | kakalto: what info you need exactly, which packages are installed regarding kde? anyway i did not put anything extra apart what debian-kde puts on by default |
| 22:19.38 | *** join/#kde Pitmairen (n=pitmaire@cB2B701C3.dhcp.bluecom.no) |
| 22:20.03 | darkschneider | ( i think i have added samba mobule for control center.. notting more) |
| 22:20.33 | DeviantPeer | Hi all... I'm having a stupid (my stupidity most likely) behaviour on configuring xorg keyboard. It seams the config at xorg.cong is being discarded (defaults to us layout) and some keys stop working after a issue a setxkbmap pt |
| 22:20.35 | kakalto | darkschneider: so, you installed debian-kde, added backports and upgraded? |
| 22:20.42 | darkschneider | yes |
| 22:20.52 | DeviantPeer | anyone has anyidea of what can be going wrong? (beside my neurons) |
| 22:21.14 | *** join/#kde tvtoon (n=tvtoon@201.18.29.66) |
| 22:22.01 | kakalto | darkschneider: I'm not experienced in this - I was *just* about to install debian/kde and do what you've done, but as a stab in the dark - Do you think some of the packages might not have been upgraded? |
| 22:22.23 | darkschneider | no idea :) i do not think os |
| 22:22.25 | *** join/#kde echasslau (n=echassla@p54B4475A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 22:22.31 | darkschneider | it's more a serious bug somewhere |
| 22:23.10 | wolf0129 | i installed second hardisk so i had one for OS/programs and one for personal files. but my sys is copying everything to both drives. i want my personal files seperate from my OS/programs. i tried asking in #SUSE but no one can help. can some one here please help me. |
| 22:23.13 | darkschneider | anyway nothing complex in the process, if you have fear, just go for it and do not worry, problems like this one are really isolated |
| 22:23.46 | echasslau | hello, i have a problem with my konqueror, there are no tabs in the sidebar, how can i get them back? |
| 22:24.11 | *** join/#kde Pinaraf_ (n=moi@ALille-251-1-53-204.w82-127.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 22:26.16 | echasslau | nobody an idea? |
| 22:26.32 | pedepy | alright brace yourselves, has anyone been able to compile bespin ? |
| 22:26.59 | *** join/#kde jose__ (n=jose@88.210.87.248.rev.optimus.pt) |
| 22:28.28 | HS^^ | wolf0129 i don t think its kde problem? |
| 22:28.32 | HS^^ | wolf0129 , #linux |
| 22:29.17 | wolf0129 | HS^^ ty |
| 22:29.27 | HS^^ | but probably what you should do... is inserrt harddisk format it ewith filesystem. mount it |
| 22:29.31 | HS^^ | and thats it? |
| 22:29.39 | *** join/#kde DaSkreech (n=chatzill@72.252.37.206) |
| 22:29.45 | HS^^ | i dont know what you did exactly |
| 22:32.54 | cbr | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:32.56 | cbr | why? |
| 22:33.03 | cbr | i deleted my kde3 directory |
| 22:33.07 | DaSkreech | cbr: it holds a lot of stuff |
| 22:33.09 | cbr | which was @ .kde |
| 22:33.23 | cbr | i had a pretty fresh install though |
| 22:33.29 | cbr | so i didnt have a lot of stuff |
| 22:33.35 | SSJ_GZ | echasslau: If F9 doesn't work, can you post a screenshot? |
| 22:33.36 | *** join/#kde guguno (n=2faa1233@87-121-29-128.telecablenet.com) |
| 22:33.54 | echasslau | http://www.ec-hasslau.de/sonstiges/screen.png |
| 22:34.04 | echasslau | the sidebar is there but no tabs |
| 22:34.24 | *** part/#kde edgy (n=edgy@90.148.249.234) |
| 22:35.07 | DaSkreech | cbr: It's not catastrophic just you lose all your settings and mail |
| 22:35.49 | echasslau | i tried to delete my konqueror profile but with the new one its the same |
| 22:36.00 | *** join/#kde ganymede (n=ganymede@unaffiliated/ganymede) |
| 22:36.14 | SSJ_GZ | echasslau: I can't get the image to load, I'm afraid. |
| 22:36.39 | SSJ_GZ | echasslau: Did the tabs disappear suddenly? |
| 22:37.34 | echasslau | suddenly? always! |
| 22:38.00 | *** join/#kde DoctorPepper (n=kingsize@modemcable010.97-131-66.mc.videotron.ca) |
| 22:38.50 | SSJ_GZ | echasslau: So you've never had tabs there? |
| 22:39.23 | echasslau | im not sure but i think last install not |
| 22:39.24 | echasslau | http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/1630/screenhk4.png |
| 22:39.28 | *** join/#kde sabayonlive-2169 (n=sabayonu@79.145.95.163) |
| 22:39.35 | guguno | guys where is kde4 writing the files for the desktop icons ? |
| 22:39.57 | echasslau | i mean since last install |
| 22:40.02 | *** join/#kde ryanoe (n=ryanoe@pool-151-200-53-229.res.east.verizon.net) |
| 22:40.33 | PhilRod | DaSkreech: losing all your mail "not catastrophic"?! Surely not! (Also, you can lose your address book) |
| 22:40.36 | echasslau | @SSJ_GZ: in the "root konqueror" ther are tabs |
| 22:41.24 | echasslau | but deleting the kde profile doesn't solve the problem |
| 22:41.33 | *** join/#kde jaegermeister (n=jaegerme@p54BC0760.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 22:41.42 | SSJ_GZ | echasslau: Interesting. Try kbuildsyscoca |
| 22:42.17 | SSJ_GZ | echasslau: Then open a fresh instance of Konqueror. Make sure it's not a pre-loaded one. |
| 22:42.49 | *** join/#kde pk (n=pk@3.Red-83-61-144.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 22:43.13 | *** join/#kde bud12345 (n=bud@1-1-6-17a.vta.sth.bostream.se) |
| 22:44.14 | *** join/#kde jott (n=j@unaffiliated/jott) |
| 22:44.21 | SSJ_GZ | echasslau: Interestingly, konqsidebartng.rc has a "HideTabs" option. |
| 22:44.40 | echasslau | @SSJ_GZ: many warnings like: kbuildsycoca: WARNING: '/usr/share/applications/math.desktop' specifies undefined mimetype/servicetype 'application/vnd.sun.xml.math' |
| 22:44.56 | SSJ_GZ | echasslau: That's probably OK. |
| 22:44.58 | echasslau | @SSJ_GZ: and no konqueror opens |
| 22:45.02 | JW | How do you make the print screen button do nothing on it's own in KDE? I can't find the place where they shortcuts is set. |
| 22:45.15 | SSJ_GZ | echasslau: You mean Konqueror no longer launches? |
| 22:45.38 | *** join/#kde Worf (n=worf@84.119.63.24) |
| 22:46.28 | *** join/#kde vince_ (n=vince@adsl-75-60-195-147.dsl.wotnoh.sbcglobal.net) |
| 22:46.56 | echasslau | @SSJ_GZ: misunderstanding, konqueror works, but problem is the same |
| 22:47.28 | SSJ_GZ | echasslau: Can you pastebin your ~/.kde/share/config/konqsidebartng.rc |
| 22:47.30 | SSJ_GZ | ? |
| 22:47.46 | *** join/#kde Knat (n=ross@nv-76-0-241-90.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) |
| 22:48.00 | *** join/#kde xenoterracide (n=xenoterr@c-24-11-206-97.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) |
| 22:49.11 | echasslau | @SSJ_GZ: ahhh, your right, there was HideTabs set |
| 22:49.19 | DoctorPepper | can someone help , i have an issue with kde4 , the issue is the following: for one user on my system each time i start kde4 i dont have any titlebar for the applications i start . to recover the titlebar i have to run kwin --replace each time i login . |
| 22:49.21 | echasslau | @SSJ_GZ: thanks a lot |
| 22:49.23 | SSJ_GZ | echasslau: Set to "true"? |
| 22:49.30 | echasslau | yesd |
| 22:49.44 | SSJ_GZ | echasslau: np - I have no idea why renaming your ~/.kde didn't work, though. |
| 22:50.01 | Knat | I just installed kde4 and I have dual monitors set up, I can no longer drag folders, icons, links, etc onto my second screen, is there a way to do this with kde4 |
| 22:50.11 | echasslau | @SSJ_GZ: is there any default setting? |
| 22:50.32 | guguno | somehow the GTK themes don't work in kde4 |
| 22:50.50 | guguno | firefox looks ugly and so is grellm |
| 22:51.02 | SSJ_GZ | echasslau: No default setting for HideTabs on Kubuntu 7.10 |
| 22:52.09 | *** join/#kde tinytony (n=tt@c-88d2e253.03-2013-73746f2.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) |
| 22:52.26 | echasslau | @SSJ_GZ: i'm using arch - who knows |
| 22:52.32 | SSJ_GZ | Heh |
| 22:53.42 | *** join/#kde Nate_Grey (n=byte@c-68-48-224-86.hsd1.md.comcast.net) |
| 22:55.16 | *** join/#kde warrens (n=steve@pool-71-170-67-135.dllstx.fios.verizon.net) |
| 22:58.24 | *** part/#kde echasslau (n=echassla@p54B4475A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 22:58.55 | *** join/#kde nodesert (n=nodesert@88.229.161.48) |
| 22:59.30 | *** join/#kde tifauv (n=tifauv@ANantes-156-1-22-27.w90-12.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 22:59.51 | *** join/#kde khouchi (n=khouchi@5352D873.cable.casema.nl) |
| 23:00.01 | *** join/#kde HelgeD (n=deller@mnhm-590f51cb.pool.einsundeins.de) |
| 23:00.32 | *** part/#kde HelgeD (n=deller@mnhm-590f51cb.pool.einsundeins.de) |
| 23:00.44 | nodesert | does anyone know how to change datagrid style or color on kde4 |
| 23:01.07 | *** join/#kde Thug-life (n=i@5ac4c4f5.bb.sky.com) |
| 23:01.54 | *** join/#kde inkbuntu (n=inkbuntu@201.210.120.235) |
| 23:02.04 | *** join/#kde Jamtech (n=Jamtech@mail.hendersonschool.com) |
| 23:04.12 | *** join/#kde igor (n=igor@79.125.254.218) |
| 23:07.33 | Knat | can someone tell me how to change my taskbar settings on kde4 |
| 23:08.06 | *** join/#kde g2g591 (n=kyle@fc-dyn-dsl-216.248.103.177.wctatel.net) |
| 23:08.31 | Knat | It used to be right click, and select "taskbar settings", now my "configure taskbar" menu has "Show tooltips" and nothing else |
| 23:08.50 | kakalto | is there a simple command that would allow me to print a list of all items in kde3 menu? |
| 23:08.59 | SSJ_GZ | Knat: Not yet implemented. |
| 23:09.04 | sahin_h | Knat: Currently that's all what you can do. |
| 23:09.18 | sahin_h | Knat: UI not implemented yet. |
| 23:09.54 | Knat | ok thanks |
| 23:12.31 | *** join/#kde xenoterracide (n=xenoterr@207.74.87.99) |
| 23:14.28 | *** join/#kde cgoncalves (n=carlos@cr-217-129-232-159.netvisao.pt) |
| 23:15.50 | *** join/#kde CaliforniaRoey (n=abc@208-59-173-24.c3-0.bth-ubr7.lnh-bth.md.cable.rcn.com) |
| 23:16.49 | *** join/#kde _Angelus_ (n=demon@92.251.81.35) |
| 23:18.02 | *** join/#kde johnsen (n=johnsen@pc-10-249.skjoldhoej.dk) |
| 23:23.23 | *** join/#kde scott__ (n=scott@nat/redhat/x-e66d5cf0a591cc82) |
| 23:24.43 | kakalto | O_o I'm impressed. k3b just burnt my cd and it feels cooler than when I first put it in. |
| 23:27.18 | *** join/#kde Worf (n=worf@84.119.63.24) |
| 23:27.35 | *** join/#kde Gray9Mar (i=surf@gateway/tor/x-dbada8000b693099) |
| 23:31.01 | *** join/#kde anton_ (n=anton@internet-201-143.narocnik.mobitel.si) |
| 23:32.55 | HS^^ | why is dot.kde.org not updated nymore |
| 23:33.11 | HS^^ | it looks to me everyone is drunk all the time since release? |
| 23:33.15 | HS^^ | no nothing is happening? |
| 23:33.22 | JordanC | xD |
| 23:33.28 | JordanC | Yeah, party time :P |
| 23:33.34 | HS^^ | ok |
| 23:34.10 | Sho_ | HS^^: There's the release party event on the 18th, which means that a lot of key people are not at home right now but on the road and/or doing preparations for said event |
| 23:34.42 | HS^^ | allright thats in some google building |
| 23:34.55 | Sho_ | it's in Google HQ in Mountain View, yeah |
| 23:35.04 | *** join/#kde mardi_soir (n=mardi_so@gob75-8-88-165-217-73.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 23:35.30 | *** join/#kde phillipos (n=phillipo@88-97-3-248.dsl.zen.co.uk) |
| 23:35.32 | HS^^ | 18th arent people working there |
| 23:35.40 | HS^^ | theya re all kicked outside? |
| 23:35.55 | *** join/#kde dbglt (n=dbglt@60-242-135-20.static.tpgi.com.au) |
| 23:36.06 | HS^^ | i mean what has google to do with kde |
| 23:36.19 | Sho_ | They use it, for one ;) |
| 23:36.27 | Sho_ | At least some of them do |
| 23:36.34 | HS^^ | all google employees use kde? |
| 23:36.48 | HS^^ | i thought in google everyone is free to use what they want |
| 23:37.01 | Sho_ | note '<Sho_> At least some of them do' |
| 23:37.32 | HS^^ | so that doesnt say much |
| 23:38.09 | HS^^ | but cool have a good party |
| 23:38.21 | *** join/#kde ctibor (n=ctibor@89.203.143.43) |
| 23:40.03 | *** join/#kde graft (n=graft@c-65-96-163-59.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) |
| 23:40.04 | *** join/#kde growled (n=growl@ivu.users.odessa.comstar.net.ua) |
| 23:40.04 | graft | soo.... is anyone like, running kde4 as their desktop now? |
| 23:40.04 | HS^^ | no its too bad |
| 23:40.22 | graft | you mean, "it's too bad no one is running kde4", or "kde4 is too bad to run"? |
| 23:40.33 | *** join/#kde olih_ (n=olih@lns-bzn-48f-81-56-218-88.adsl.proxad.net) |
| 23:40.35 | HS^^ | yes i think too bad to run. |
| 23:40.41 | graft | ah |
| 23:40.48 | HS^^ | it s my honest opinion |
| 23:41.10 | nodesert | kde4 is really nice |
| 23:41.13 | graft | seems plausible... didn't seem fully-equipped when it was in RC stage |
| 23:41.26 | graft | definitely looks awesome |
| 23:41.31 | SSJ_GZ | http://software-libre.rudd-o.com/KDE_4.0.0_emergency_FAQ#Is_KDE_4.0.0_Suitable_For_Regular_End-Users.3F |
| 23:41.37 | graft | i hope 4.1 comes soon |
| 23:41.39 | HS^^ | you think looks asesome? |
| 23:41.50 | HS^^ | the big black menu? and black plasmas? |
| 23:41.58 | HS^^ | and the white sleak theme? |
| 23:42.03 | *** join/#kde anom01y (n=anom01y@75.157.60.191) |
| 23:42.19 | *** join/#kde habdel (n=tiger@pptp-212-201-75-192.pptp.stw-bonn.de) |
| 23:42.43 | HS^^ | i dont get the "Eat Your Children" mayb e its because im not english |
| 23:42.52 | HS^^ | does it mean that its a monster or really bad |
| 23:42.52 | HS^^ | ? |
| 23:43.08 | SSJ_GZ | HS^^: Both :) |
| 23:43.17 | shaman- | haha... microsoft wants to enter the mainframe market... "Simply reboot the mainframe after the update is applied! Cancel or Allow?" |
| 23:43.44 | graft | oxygen in general has a very nice look-and-feel. i'll agree that the black plasma borders are a bit gaudy for my tastes, but hopefully that's customizable |
| 23:44.43 | Sho_ | graft: It's SVG-themable |
| 23:45.05 | HS^^ | but that also means it doesnt follow the KDE styles, right |
| 23:45.15 | graft | zuh? |
| 23:45.20 | graft | you mean 3.* styles? |
| 23:45.21 | shaman- | hopefully 4.0.1 makes the toolbar usable again :) |
| 23:45.34 | graft | i'm assuming those are going out of the window or into the midden heap or wahtever |
| 23:45.54 | Sho_ | HS^^: Yes and no. The widgets that are styled by KDE styles follow the KDE style in Plasmoids as well, e.g. buttons and text fields. But the style has no control over Plasma's SVG theme components, no. |
| 23:46.19 | Sho_ | shaman-: What's broken about the toolbar in 4.0.0? |
| 23:47.15 | HS^^ | so that probably means in the future that artists will have to relaese both a style for widget and also for plasma |
| 23:47.27 | *** join/#kde growled (n=growl@ivu.users.odessa.comstar.net.ua) |
| 23:47.43 | Sho_ | guess so, depending on how much you feel the two need to be aligned |
| 23:48.33 | HS^^ | well seeing current state i think its needed.... the black style of plasma, and the sleak style of oxygen .. really dont match and is bad style |
| 23:48.40 | HS^^ | match = mix |
| 23:48.50 | HS^^ | both on itself are allright |
| 23:48.56 | Sho_ | HS^^: Ironically they were both designed by the same people ;) |
| 23:49.27 | HS^^ | maybe im the only one with this opinion |
| 23:49.56 | *** join/#kde Seiya (i=Seiya@161.sub-75-194-130.myvzw.com) |
| 23:50.12 | Sho_ | HS^^: No, I don't like the Plasma default theme either to be honest, while I do like the style |
| 23:50.18 | shaman- | what's wrong... it's massive, it's not configurable and it reminds me of CDE |
| 23:50.21 | benJIman | They do go fairly well together , I'm not a fan of either, but they don't clash. |
| 23:50.25 | shaman- | huge amounts of space lost for no benefit |
| 23:50.37 | *** join/#kde Seiya[asahi] (i=Seiya@114.sub-75-195-102.myvzw.com) |
| 23:50.47 | benJIman | shaman-: Yeah, and with monitors being widescreen now it's a problem. |
| 23:50.56 | Sho_ | shaman-: The toolbars are just as configurable as they were in KDE 3.x, actually |
| 23:50.57 | shaman- | it is actually |
| 23:51.03 | Sho_ | shaman-: More so, actually |
| 23:51.08 | shaman- | then I haven't figured out how to configure them |
| 23:51.15 | *** join/#kde Seiya[laptop] (i=Seiya@91.sub-75-223-246.myvzw.com) |
| 23:51.15 | benJIman | On my PC the KDE4 panel plasmoid wastes 168,960 pixels. |
| 23:51.26 | Sho_ | shaman-: Right-click 'em, as usual |
| 23:51.30 | HS^^ | u think you mean not toolbar but taskbar? |
| 23:51.42 | *** join/#kde colsfasdf (n=smallnow@ip68-7-220-241.sd.sd.cox.net) |
| 23:51.42 | Sho_ | yeah, he probably means panels rather than toolbars |
| 23:51.43 | *** join/#kde xoqa (n=h@unaffiliated/hydan) |
| 23:51.55 | HS^^ | the thing with "start menu" on it |
| 23:51.56 | shaman- | yes |
| 23:51.58 | shaman- | the panels |
| 23:52.06 | shaman- | or on mine... the panel |
| 23:52.08 | *** join/#kde hdevalence (n=harry@bas9-toronto12-1177717603.dsl.bell.ca) |
| 23:52.18 | shaman- | my kde 3.5 is set to regular size and autohide |
| 23:52.24 | hdevalence | What are the minimum specs for KDE 4? |
| 23:52.33 | HS^^ | yes i think everyone knows this is bad right now |
| 23:52.34 | benJIman | 170kilopixels would have been half the screen 10 years ago, funny that now it's wasted for doing nothing. |
| 23:52.51 | *** join/#kde fortruth (n=fortruth@159.226.249.13) |
| 23:52.56 | shaman- | it almost seems like kde is re-inventing CDE with massive borders, huge icons etc. |
| 23:52.59 | HS^^ | at least no one is denying that the panel is worthless now |
| 23:53.11 | shaman- | I know it's an early "developer" release but that's why I'm having my say NOW |
| 23:53.12 | fortruth | join #kdevelop |
| 23:53.12 | shaman- | heh |
| 23:53.30 | HS^^ | why join #Kdevelop? |
| 23:53.34 | benJIman | shaman-: Don't worry there's a //FIXME: Don't hardcode 48px ^_^ |
| 23:53.39 | DoctorPepper | can someone help , i have an issue with kde4 , the issue is the following: for one user on my system each time i start kde4 i dont have any titlebar for the applications i start . to recover the titlebar i have to run kwin --replace each time i login . is there any reason why i have to execute kwin --replace ? |
| 23:53.42 | *** join/#kde Paddy_EIRE (n=patrick@78.150.250.205) |
| 23:54.15 | hdevalence | I'm wondering whether it would be feasible to run KDE 4 on an n800 |
| 23:54.45 | *** join/#kde Nachtengel (n=Nachteng@201-92-209-92.dsl.telesp.net.br) |
| 23:54.51 | benJIman | hdevalence: Possibly, someone got it working on the neo I see. |
| 23:55.06 | *** join/#kde lado_ (n=lado@ip24-255-178-213.ks.ks.cox.net) |
| 23:55.13 | SSJ_GZ | benJIman: Very, very slowly though. |
| 23:56.01 | Sho_ | hdevalence: should work |
| 23:56.09 | *** part/#kde fortruth (n=fortruth@159.226.249.13) |
| 23:57.09 | hdevalence | obvoisly, I'll be able to get it to install, but will it be too resourcehungry? And will the camera, fm tuner, etc etc work? |
| 23:57.33 | HS^^ | i think you cn just try and see? |
| 23:57.40 | SSJ_GZ | hdevalence: How much RAM on the n800? |
| 23:57.56 | Sho_ | hdevalence: The camera might if it's a normal V4L device, the fmtuner probably not since the code to access it is closed source |
| 23:57.56 | hdevalence | 128mb |
| 23:58.35 | SSJ_GZ | hdevalence: Then it will run, but you won't be able to open many apps. Does the n800 use swap at all? |
| 23:58.48 | Sho_ | SSJ_GZ: yes (and it runs KDE 3 quite well, btw) |
| 23:59.04 | *** join/#kde erov (n=j@c-76-22-137-36.hsd1.tn.comcast.net) |
| 23:59.08 | *** join/#kde cb400f (n=cb400f@4808ds2-suoe.0.fullrate.dk) |
| 23:59.09 | *** join/#kde BlackBsd (n=brian@72.168.193.117) |
| 23:59.14 | hdevalence | I don't have one, but I'm going to get an n8[01]0 |
| 23:59.24 | hdevalence | probably n800, they're cheaper |
| 23:59.38 | Sho_ | hdevalence: I used to have an N800 and got my N810 last week |
| 23:59.57 | *** join/#kde structured (n=carm@user-387h50u.cable.mindspring.com) |
| 23:59.59 | *** join/#kde AlexElliott_ (n=alex@client-82-20-61-208.brnt.adsl.virgin.net) |
