| 00:00.27 | js0ny | i havent seen any yao |
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| 00:00.58 | js0ny | wasnt there a pink mockup on aarons blog - did that ever make it into base or art? |
| 00:01.04 | dasKreech | yao_ziyuan: not really worth it right now :) |
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| 00:01.16 | cb400f | yao_ziyuan: what exactly do you mean by themes.. there are different plasma themes.. windecos.. widget styles.. colour schemes |
| 00:01.28 | cb400f | .. which can of course all be combined in various ways |
| 00:01.51 | yao_ziyuan | widget styles and window decorations... |
| 00:02.06 | yao_ziyuan | except the already known Oxygen |
| 00:03.14 | cb400f | I thinke all other widget styles are ports of kde3 widget styles |
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| 00:07.12 | cb400f | yao_ziyuan: there's also a qt4 widget style called "cleanlooks" |
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| 00:07.51 | cb400f | the others seem to be the old ones..plastique, windows, cde, motif |
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| 00:08.28 | act1v8 | Hello! |
| 00:09.07 | act1v8 | Are the slideshow wallpaper functions as in GNOME available in KDE too? |
| 00:10.07 | contrast83 | yep |
| 00:10.44 | contrast83 | Well, I'm not familiar with the features of GNOME's, but you can have a slideshow as your wallpaper |
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| 00:12.20 | act1v8 | contrast83: in that .xml file right? |
| 00:12.40 | cb400f | yao_ziyuan: http://www.jarzebski.pl/read/kde-4-rev-712779.so <- scroll down a bit and see cleanlooks screenie |
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| 00:13.02 | contrast83 | Erm... Not sure. IIRC, you just point to a folder and it cycles through the pictures it containts. |
| 00:13.15 | contrast83 | s/containts/contains/ |
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| 00:13.30 | yao_ziyuan | cb400f: all right... |
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| 00:14.02 | act1v8 | hmmm.. usually in GNOME (Fedora 8) there is an .xml file which contains transitions and stuff for the images... I just want to know if it works in KDE also |
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| 00:14.59 | contrast83 | What happened to the Qt4 style that had the nifty tab transition effects and the like? I think it was shipping with the mid- or late KDE4 beta releases, can't recall its name though. |
| 00:15.01 | dasKreech | act1v8: You can specify transistions per image ? |
| 00:15.24 | act1v8 | um... |
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| 00:17.35 | contrast83 | pinotree, qupada, cb400f: Just compiled KTorrent and it's working swimmingly. Thanks a million. :-D |
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| 00:23.41 | dasKreech | pinotree: Nice Nepomuk Logo |
| 00:23.45 | dasKreech | Why does it need one? |
| 00:23.51 | pinotree | ? |
| 00:24.15 | pinotree | err, i'm not the artist... |
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| 00:25.49 | dasKreech | Whoops :) |
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| 00:51.28 | echosystm | can anyone tell me what stable distros have kd4 by default, or in repo? |
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| 00:52.58 | dasKreech | Debian, Opensuse, Fedora (might only be in Unstable I'm not sure), Sidux and Arch apparently |
| 00:53.03 | dasKreech | Oh Kubuntu |
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| 00:53.23 | dasKreech | Ubuntu/Xubuntu/Gbuntu et al |
| 00:53.24 | echosystm | kubuntu 8.04 is not released yet |
| 00:53.35 | dasKreech | It should be there for Gutsy as well |
| 00:53.50 | echosystm | oh |
| 00:53.50 | dasKreech | Oh it's not there for Debian Stable btw |
| 00:54.07 | dasKreech | but then that would be a crazy question |
| 00:54.22 | dasKreech | is KDE3.5 in Debian Stable yet? |
| 00:54.50 | dasKreech | I've heard there are slackware repos for KDE4 but I'm not aware of how official they are |
| 00:55.07 | dasKreech | Does Windows count? :) |
| 00:55.11 | dasKreech | oh wait stable |
| 00:55.16 | dasKreech | :-( |
| 00:55.40 | echosystm | in synaptic |
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| 00:55.59 | echosystm | kdebase comes up as 4:3.5.8-0ubuntu2.2 |
| 00:56.06 | echosystm | (in ubuntu_ |
| 00:56.19 | echosystm | what does 4:xxxx mean? |
| 00:56.34 | dasKreech | echosystm: read Kubuntu.org please :) |
| 00:56.42 | dasKreech | it's in a repo by itself |
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| 00:57.18 | dasKreech | echosystm: Something carried over from Debian I'm not sure the 4: means anything to Canonical stuff |
| 00:57.26 | echosystm | ok |
| 00:57.58 | echosystm | is the performance difference with kde4 significant? |
| 00:58.06 | echosystm | or does the extra bloat outweigh it |
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| 01:02.08 | dasKreech | for now YMMV |
| 01:04.35 | flabr | why no mirrors in south america? |
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| 01:05.51 | dasKreech | Greenhouse effe.. oh right server mirrors |
| 01:06.08 | dasKreech | I think they should have some in Brazil |
| 01:07.32 | flabr | dasKreech: cant find it...i wonder if there is a KDE 4 shipped with some distro tha I could just download the ISO and try? |
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| 01:07.58 | dasKreech | flabr: openSuse has a live Cd with the latest KDE4 if you like |
| 01:08.38 | flabr | dasKreech: i am on suse 10.3 with kde 3 ... actually I would just like to download a small linux distro and run as live cd in order to try kde 4 |
| 01:08.51 | dasKreech | How small? |
| 01:09.09 | flabr | the smallest :) |
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| 01:09.15 | evelyette | hey |
| 01:09.23 | evelyette | http://rafb.net/p/B3n0Zn89.html --> any ideas why this fails |
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| 01:09.33 | flabr | i dont know...but my connection is not the best down here and I would just like to try kde 4 before installing on my system |
| 01:09.34 | dasKreech | Ha ha well it must at least be as big as KDE and X |
| 01:09.50 | flabr | dasKreech: true...what do u recommend? |
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| 01:10.33 | dasKreech | flabr: the Suse Cd is about 500 megs |
| 01:10.35 | dasKreech | http://home.kde.org/~binner/kde-four-live/ |
| 01:10.48 | flabr | dasKreech: thanks a lot...gotta try that |
| 01:10.48 | dasKreech | It's up to date and installable from the Cd |
| 01:11.19 | flabr | dasKreech: great...do u know if KDE4 comes with K Menu? That menu made for Suse that has a search box on the top? |
| 01:11.36 | dasKreech | You mean Kickoff? |
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| 01:11.44 | dasKreech | Yes it does |
| 01:12.31 | flabr | right...gotta try than...thanks once again |
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| 02:19.23 | odla | is it known that the kdialog popup windows are empty in 4.0.0? |
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| 02:24.15 | AmyRose | odla: Upgrade to 4.0.1. A LOT got fixed. |
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| 02:25.08 | AmyRose | dasKreech: Nothing new is ever in Debian Stale...er, Stable =P |
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| 02:25.45 | dasKreech | :) |
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| 02:28.25 | DamnThom | whats the difference between kde4-kwin and compiz-fusion? |
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| 02:31.12 | PythonNinja | i've just installed kde4 (i think!) using apt on debian. i installed a runtime package for kde4, but startkde still brings up my kde3 desktop, how do i mak it changeover? |
| 02:31.15 | d_garbage | DamnThom two different window managers |
| 02:31.22 | dasKreech | Two different projects |
| 02:31.51 | dasKreech | d_garbage: Compiz-fusion is a compositing manager |
| 02:32.17 | d_garbage | dasKreech and kde4 kwin aint? |
| 02:32.40 | dasKreech | d_garbage: that would be correct :) |
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| 02:33.16 | d_garbage | dasKreech kde4 does compositing, it;s just a ways behind compiz is all |
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| 02:33.41 | dasKreech | Yes but it's not a compositing manager it's a window manager that happens to have a compositing plugin |
| 02:34.02 | dasKreech | Compiz-fusion is a compositing manager that happens to put windows in Z-order |
| 02:34.09 | d_garbage | dasKreech i ahve to take your word for that... beyond my knowledge |
| 02:34.24 | dasKreech | Different foci |
| 02:35.55 | dasKreech | anyone here from KDE promo ? |
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| 02:37.20 | neekofab | Any idea why spell-check would be disabled in Kopete on KDE 3.5.5 (Debian Etch) |
| 02:37.45 | dasKreech | I think you have to flip it on somewhere |
| 02:37.59 | dasKreech | Right click -> Spell -> Auto spell I think |
| 02:38.44 | neekofab | In chat, click settings, and it's listed but grayed out. |
| 02:38.46 | dasKreech | As I recall it was turned off because if you misspell a word it turns up as red on the other person's screen |
| 02:39.09 | neekofab | dasKreech ah |
| 02:39.17 | dasKreech | They thought that might get a bit embrassing :) |
| 02:39.51 | neekofab | dasKreech hehe, but I don't want to look up ever word by hand. :( |
| 02:40.22 | dasKreech | Oh you can start it manually if you really think a word is wrong |
| 02:40.31 | dasKreech | and it won't do the RedSend |
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| 02:42.35 | Smorg | is the desktop resolution settings feature in the system settings package broken? |
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| 02:42.39 | Smorg | doesn't seem to work for me |
| 02:44.26 | d_garbage | Smorg waht distro? |
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| 02:44.41 | Smorg | gentoo & kde4 |
| 02:44.55 | Smorg | first it overrides my xorg.conf modes |
| 02:45.07 | Smorg | if you change anything, the apply button is still greyed out |
| 02:45.14 | d_garbage | Smorg um, randr applet works on opensuse. tried it? |
| 02:45.41 | Smorg | nope. |
| 02:45.48 | Smorg | i'll look into that one maybe :) |
| 02:46.15 | d_garbage | Smorg not 100% susre about kde4 but works for sure on 3.5 |
| 02:47.01 | d_garbage | Smorg but i'm not sure about differences between distros though :( |
| 02:47.20 | Smorg | gentoo does it weirdly |
| 02:47.31 | Smorg | kde packages are compiled independantly instead of in a monolithic package |
| 02:47.51 | d_garbage | Smorg you using compiz fusion? |
| 02:48.02 | Smorg | no |
| 02:48.05 | Smorg | well i used to |
| 02:48.05 | d_garbage | ah |
| 02:48.11 | Smorg | it has many issues with kde 4 |
| 02:48.38 | Smorg | mostly the fact that the autostart folder seems broken |
| 02:48.55 | Smorg | i used to launch it with the fusion-icon, which doesn't work in kde 4 |
| 02:48.59 | Smorg | so i made a shell script |
| 02:49.02 | d_garbage | Smorg was thinking "Jupiteritx" on #compiz-fusion is experienced with Gentoo, thought he might be able to offer some help |
| 02:49.04 | Smorg | which... kde can't figure out how to run |
| 02:49.10 | neekofab | I thought kde 4 did away with the need for compiz? |
| 02:49.20 | eternaleye | Smorg: The point of the split ebuilds is that some people don't _want_ all of KDE - Many people just want some "killer app", or maybe web developers who only want Konqueror for testing their websites |
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| 02:49.32 | d_garbage | neekofab kwin != compiz |
| 02:49.36 | Smorg | yes, split ebuilds are nice indeed |
| 02:49.45 | spawn57 | neekofab: compiz is still more cutting edge I believe.. |
| 02:49.55 | neekofab | k |
| 02:49.58 | Smorg | well... |
| 02:50.02 | Smorg | kwin is a cleaner implementation |
| 02:50.05 | eternaleye | neekofab: KDE4 contains compositing, but it's much less developed than Compiz Fusion. It's pretty basic right now |
| 02:50.32 | Smorg | compiz-fusion has more advanced compositing, but kwin > compiz |
| 02:50.35 | Smorg | so... its a tough call. |
| 02:50.36 | d_garbage | compiz fusion plays pretty well with kde4 on opensuse |
| 02:51.04 | Smorg | the ideal situation would be for kwin to incorporate all of the composite features of compiz |
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| 02:51.31 | d_garbage | there is a cf 0.7 release just now, also has a new kde4 window decorator, havn't upgraded/tried it myself yet though |
| 02:51.43 | Smorg | oh really? |
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| 02:51.46 | d_garbage | yes |
| 02:51.48 | eternaleye | True, but the kwin developers have stated outright that there are several features that they will never put in, like wobbly windows |
| 02:51.59 | Smorg | I will have to wait for it to get into the desktop-effects overlay |
| 02:52.12 | d_garbage | eternaleye shame wobbly is fun ;) |
| 02:52.23 | Smorg | thats a damn shame |
| 02:52.29 | Smorg | wobbly is like... the best thing |
| 02:52.41 | d_garbage | Smorg cube also! heh |
| 02:52.49 | Smorg | and cube ;) |
| 02:53.02 | Smorg | never say never though |
| 02:53.17 | dasKreech | eternaleye: I don't think they have much say in the matter :) |
| 02:53.23 | Smorg | if someone wants to add it, i'm sure it will be possible... even easy if kwin is constructed in a modular, plugin-able way. |
| 02:53.32 | dasKreech | ^^^ |
| 02:53.48 | d_garbage | cube gives me such a sense of freedom, of space... functionality? perhaps not so much, more of a feeling :) |
| 02:54.28 | d_garbage | just nice to know it's there... kind of thing |
| 02:54.31 | Smorg | Yes I agree... its more than just eye candy. The ability to drag windows around the cube is practical |
| 02:54.50 | Smorg | you don't even need the pager really |
| 02:54.53 | spawn57 | expose for the win. i love good window management |
| 02:55.13 | Smorg | the only problem is for some reason it always made my X consume about 15% cpu at all times |
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| 02:55.26 | d_garbage | Smorg if ever teh infamous "input re-direction" is implemented in xorg.... well, then, that's a whole new ball game |
| 02:55.30 | eternaleye | As far as the cube goes, it just seems more intuitive. While virtual desktops alone are nice, a non-computer-user would find them odd because there's no real analog in real life. Each side of a cube having something different just makes sense, though |
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| 02:56.02 | d_garbage | eternaleye that's exactly what i mean |
| 02:56.19 | Smorg | never heard of that one |
| 02:56.35 | d_garbage | Smorg input-redirection? |
| 02:56.41 | Smorg | ya |
| 02:57.56 | d_garbage | Smorg um, ok. as far as i get it.... compiz fcucks aroung with the window using GL, but the x-server doesn't know this. that is why you can't *do* anything to a window that is "compized" until it stops. |
| 02:58.44 | Smorg | which is the cause of cpu usage? |
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| 02:59.12 | eternaleye | d_garbage: But isn't Metisse able to do that? |
| 02:59.15 | d_garbage | Smorg x thinks the window is still in the usual manner.... input re-direction would allow x to understand the compiz transformed window, so you could "click" within it accurately, or even enter text. |
| 02:59.28 | d_garbage | eternaleye dont know |
| 02:59.32 | Smorg | oh ok that makes sense |
| 02:59.54 | eternaleye | From what I've seen, that's the entire purpose of Metisse. It's from Mandriva, I think |
| 02:59.57 | Smorg | actuall you should still be able to enter text |
| 03:00.05 | d_garbage | Smorg glad it does... i guess u know more about gl than i do :)) |
| 03:00.33 | Smorg | the compiz rendering is the last thing that happens right? |
| 03:00.47 | Smorg | the input goes to the window before the rendering takes place |
| 03:01.01 | d_garbage | for more (informed) answers, check the CF forum or irc channel |
| 03:01.15 | d_garbage | Smorg i think that is so |
| 03:01.40 | eternaleye | Whoah. The Compiz-Fusion tabbing is awesome! Hit Win+S, switch to another window, hit Win+S again, and hit Win+T. Now the two windows are combined, mouse over the top to get a switcher dialog! |
| 03:01.58 | d_garbage | heh |
| 03:02.29 | d_garbage | i never used that feature myself, but i hear that it is fun |
| 03:03.11 | delecti | hows it work? |
| 03:03.18 | d_garbage | one of the dev's id scratching their head though, over the problem of having more than two windoes grouped... |
| 03:03.44 | delecti | is there a place to download widgets? |
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| 03:09.53 | Wuju | Hello guys |
| 03:10.15 | Wuju | i was wondering if there is an auto arrange icons for kde desktop |
| 03:10.28 | Wuju | To arrange icons in order. |
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| 03:13.06 | Smorg | kde 3.5 had arrange icons i think |
| 03:13.15 | Smorg | doesn't look like 4 has it |
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| 03:16.29 | g2g591 | Smorg: the trunk does at least |
| 03:17.03 | Smorg | hm, yeah i haven't tried the live builds |
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| 03:17.17 | Smorg | I'm trying to find that page that exmplains what to unmask... |
| 03:17.19 | Smorg | or keyword rather |
| 03:17.40 | g2g591 | Smorg: http://genkdesvn.mailstation.de/ is the overlay site |
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| 03:18.13 | Smorg | whats the difference between the genkdesvn and kde overlays? |
| 03:18.21 | g2g591 | Smorg: im pretty sure its under setting up portage, and theres an example in layman/kde/Documentation |
| 03:18.31 | eternaleye | Didn't they move to git? |
| 03:18.33 | g2g591 | Smorg: genkdesvn= the kde overlay |
| 03:18.41 | Smorg | hm |
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| 03:18.54 | g2g591 | eternaleye: yes, but its ebuilds that use svn |
| 03:19.09 | eternaleye | Ah |
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| 03:21.09 | eternaleye | criminy, I have 21 overlays set up! |
| 03:21.19 | Smorg | wow |
| 03:21.23 | g2g591 | wow, I only use 2 |
| 03:21.57 | Smorg | i've got cell, toolchain, java-overlay, sunrise, desktop-effects |
| 03:21.59 | g2g591 | one for kde, one for update-live-ebuilds (it has a bunch of other stuff too that i don't use) |
| 03:22.16 | eternaleye | Part of the problem is that I forget to delete them - the only ones I really use much are postgres, kde, and paludis-extras |
| 03:22.36 | Smorg | oh, and vmware |
| 03:22.43 | eternaleye | Time to go on a cruft crusade |
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| 03:23.05 | Smorg | you use paludis? |
| 03:23.06 | Smorg | sexy. |
| 03:23.08 | g2g591 | I assume you both are running ~arch |
| 03:23.17 | Smorg | ya |
| 03:23.46 | Smorg | ~arch ftw |
| 03:23.53 | eternaleye | No, but my package.keywords is 24K |
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| 03:24.03 | Smorg | I somewhat disagree with the whole concept of ~ :/ |
| 03:24.08 | g2g591 | eternaleye: wiw |
| 03:24.14 | Smorg | ~ != unstable |
| 03:24.19 | Smorg | ~ = new |
| 03:24.27 | Smorg | only possibly unstable |
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| 03:25.09 | Smorg | just use ~arch and mask things that break |
| 03:25.09 | eternaleye | Correction: ~ = unverified for stability. [M] = unstable |
| 03:25.09 | Smorg | you don't want 3 versions old firefox for example ^^ |
| 03:25.10 | eternaleye | It's there for servers |
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| 03:25.18 | g2g591 | Smorg: i know, if someone wants unstable packages they should echo 'cat /dev/null' > /usr/portage/profiles/package.mask |
| 03:25.42 | eternaleye | They want something that has had plenty of time to get security beaten into it :D |
| 03:26.01 | Smorg | right, but new |
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| 03:26.38 | Smorg | er... new packages that are "unverified for stability" can contain experamental code, bugfixes, security fixes, added features, optimizations, or a combination of these |
| 03:27.00 | Smorg | so... it can actually be less secure |
| 03:27.16 | g2g591 | speeking of security, see http://www.securityfocus.com/bid/27704/info |
| 03:27.50 | Smorg | rofl |
| 03:28.10 | g2g591 | a vulnerability in all versions of the kernel prior til 2.6.24.1 |
| 03:28.23 | eternaleye | Good thing I'm on 2.6.24.1 ! |
| 03:28.24 | Smorg | gentoo sources ofc ^^ |
| 03:28.31 | eternaleye | zen-sources |
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| 03:28.40 | Smorg | meh |
| 03:28.57 | Smorg | I was using vanila for a while due to how far behind gentoo sources lags sometimes |
| 03:29.09 | g2g591 | I was/am in the prococess of updateing , i also just added the doc useflag too, so i have tons more to download |
| 03:29.28 | g2g591 | Smorg: i just did the same thing ( switch from vanilla to gentoo) |
| 03:29.39 | Smorg | if anything REALLY cool is in a patchset, its going to get merged upstream anyhow... its best to have the very latest unless you need some very specific feature in something like mm sources. |
| 03:29.42 | eternaleye | motto should be "Zen-Sources: we pull nightly" |
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| 03:30.20 | Smorg | whats in the zen patches? |
| 03:30.20 | g2g591 | Smorg: I agree |
| 03:30.29 | lmm | in kde4 konqueror seems to have lost the "copy to" option in the context menu. Is there a way to get it back? |
| 03:30.55 | g2g591 | lmm: wait til its included in a future release ? |
| 03:31.31 | lmm | g2g591: it seems like something that's been deliberately turned off/removed rather than missing though |
| 03:32.13 | eternaleye | reiser4, btrfs, union, aufs, sqlzma, the list goes on. There's a thread in unsupported-software on the forum with a good list |
| 03:33.07 | Smorg | ooh reiser4 :) |
| 03:34.07 | eternaleye | Nah, I got BAD corruption the one time I had a hard shutdown. Reiser3 has never given me trouble. XFS doesn't have an automated fsck to run on boot, so it's no fun either |
| 03:34.38 | Smorg | the only thing with JFS is i'm not so sure if its very heavily developed |
| 03:34.49 | Smorg | benchmarks look awesome though |
| 03:34.54 | Smorg | from what little i've read |
| 03:35.02 | lmm | I hear it's a bad idea if you're not on UPS |
| 03:35.12 | g2g591 | I have a script to automaticlly copy the config of a previous kernel to the new kernel, and compile and install it |
| 03:35.33 | Smorg | JFS? I know XFS can cause trouble... so can reiser |
| 03:35.54 | Smorg | theres also ext4 I haven't tried |
| 03:35.55 | eternaleye | You know, I have something that does that - I call it "genkernel" |
| 03:35.57 | Smorg | no idea where to get it though |
| 03:36.22 | eternaleye | It's in 2.6.24 |
| 03:36.41 | g2g591 | Smorg: ext4 is still in pretty heavy dev |
| 03:36.54 | g2g591 | Smorg: its mainly in kernel for devs |
| 03:37.13 | eternaleye | One thing I'm looking forward to is btrfs. It has some extremely nice features. |
| 03:37.30 | Smorg | with big disclaimer "do not use! it will kill your mother!" |
| 03:37.32 | Smorg | probably |
| 03:37.58 | eternaleye | The only downside to btrfs is that the disk format has changed on every one of the last five releases |
| 03:38.02 | g2g591 | eternaleye: i thought it was a joke, just from the name, i mean "Better filesystem", come on |
| 03:38.19 | eternaleye | Nope, B-tree Filesystem |
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| 03:38.35 | eternaleye | And it's got Oracle behind it |
| 03:38.46 | g2g591 | eternaleye: thats the impression btrfs gives me of the name |
| 03:39.15 | eternaleye | If you look at the features, it can pull that off though :P |
| 03:39.43 | g2g591 | i think ill stick with the ext series |
| 03:40.11 | eternaleye | I mean, "Its snapshotting mechanism is so fast, that it's all the transactional subsystem needed for atomic writes" |
| 03:40.25 | eternaleye | That is NICE |
| 03:41.18 | luke-jr | sounds like marketting |
| 03:42.11 | eternaleye | True, but if you look at the timeline this guy hase set, it's pretty impressive. I mean, he started in what? June? |
| 03:42.36 | eternaleye | g2g591: good idea |
| 03:42.38 | Smorg | so, how bout those clowns? |
| 03:42.43 | Smorg | funny dudes |
| 03:42.51 | Smorg | with the juggling and everything. |
| 03:43.04 | eternaleye | ... |
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| 03:43.18 | Smorg | thats the problem with kde these days... needs more clowns |
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| 04:44.08 | hdevalence | how do i fix cmake errors about "Please set the following variables: KDE4_PHONON_LIBRARY" ? |
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| 04:51.46 | eternaleye | hdevalence: If your phonon library from kdelibs is at '/usr/kde/4.0/lib64/libphonon.so', then do `KDE4_PHONON_LIBRARY='/usr/kde/4.0/lib64/libphonon.so' cmake` |
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| 04:54.12 | hdevalence | eternaleye: i think my kdelibs is broken, i'm rebuilding |
| 04:54.23 | eternaleye | hmm |
| 04:54.31 | hdevalence | eternaleye: becuase I was doing some funky stuff |
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| 04:55.59 | hdevalence | also, is there a way to get it to look at my soprano first rather than the soprano in APT? |
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| 04:56.34 | hdevalence | I can't remove it from apt because packages depend on it :( |
| 04:56.37 | hdevalence | brb |
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| 05:06.49 | eternaleye | Put yours earlier in LDPATH or /etc/ld.so.conf? |
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| 05:17.11 | ana | soy nueva en este canal |
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| 05:54.39 | solidnail | linux vs mac who wins? |
| 05:54.58 | Opik | haha :D windows :DDDD |
| 05:56.11 | solidnail | Opik shut up |
| 05:56.27 | texnofobix | wins at what? |
| 05:56.29 | Opik | just joke :) |
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| 05:58.15 | dasKreech | solidnail: You asked :) |
| 05:58.29 | dasKreech | you need a field to fight in btw |
| 05:58.53 | solidnail | i am in linux |
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| 06:00.20 | Fireclown- | hey |
| 06:00.30 | Fireclown- | does kde have a cd burner program |
| 06:01.48 | dasKreech | k3b |
| 06:01.58 | dasKreech | Surprised you never heard of it |
| 06:02.54 | Fireclown- | thanks |
| 06:02.59 | Fireclown- | only used it a couple days |
| 06:03.38 | dasKreech | Fireclown-: New to KDE or FOSS ? |
| 06:04.14 | Fireclown- | new to kde and linux |
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| 06:04.28 | Fireclown- | I am fixing to install damn small linux |
| 06:04.51 | dasKreech | Fireclown-: Welcome :) |
| 06:04.59 | Fireclown- | thanks |
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| 06:13.31 | goofeedude | Fireclown-: is there a version of DSL with KDE? |
| 06:15.57 | Opik | does konqueror have a SVN plugin? ) (KDE4)? |
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| 06:20.46 | Fireclown- | no |
| 06:20.54 | Fireclown- | but I guess you could install it |
| 06:21.06 | Fireclown- | it comes with fluxbox |
| 06:22.13 | Fireclown- | brb |
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| 06:50.25 | Fireclown- | does anyone know how to get sound to work in Flash Videos I know there is someway you have to tell it to send sound to alsa or something |
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| 06:56.24 | dasKreech | don't irc as root root!! |
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| 07:04.23 | Fireclown- | does anyone know where the startup manager is in kde |
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| 07:10.31 | dasKreech | Yay Yahoo Told Microsoft No! :) |
| 07:10.44 | dasKreech | Zimbra gets to live a few more months |
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| 07:24.32 | chronos | dasKreech: good news to start a day :P |
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| 07:45.52 | aantipop | i have to touch the edge of my screen first |
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| 07:48.05 | root | hi |
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| 07:55.54 | DexTer` | i still wonder what will happen yahoo... |
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| 08:55.21 | chulio | hi there, is there any way to limit the trace output in KDE4 build with kdesvn-build? |
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| 08:56.00 | chulio | without disabling debug of course |
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| 09:02.38 | debian___ | Is kde 4 ready? |
| 09:02.43 | debian___ | Is it for debian? |
| 09:03.43 | debian___ | Anyone here? |
| 09:03.46 | debian___ | Hello! |
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| 09:06.01 | debian___ | 1ping |
| 09:06.04 | debian___ | !ping |
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| 09:09.04 | chulio | depends on how you define ready |
| 09:09.21 | debian___ | Done, and in my respo! |
| 09:09.49 | chulio | the base system is ready and usable, but no kmail, no kontact, (and I think no kopete yet) |
| 09:10.10 | chulio | take a look a this: http://blog.creonfx.com/linux/install-kde-4-on-debian-unstable-sid |
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| 09:10.33 | debian___ | chulio: So if I downloaded an kubuntu, and nothing works, then I have installed kde4? |
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| 09:13.09 | Internat | so ive done something retarded. my kde is running the right resolution but everything on the screen is HUGE! like im in some accessability mode where its made everything massive but i dont know why |
| 09:13.24 | Internat | am running 3.5 i believe |
| 09:14.27 | benJIman | Maybe you increased your font size, kcontrol -> appearance and themes -> fonts |
| 09:14.32 | giovanni | sono un appasionato di LInux,c'è qualcuno in linea? |
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| 09:17.11 | chulio | debian__ don't know, but I don't think that kubuntu defaults to kde4 already |
| 09:17.53 | chulio | debian__ the best way I know of is using the SuSE livecd |
| 09:18.05 | benJIman | openSUSE 11 development does, as of this week. |
| 09:18.19 | chulio | maybe there is something similar for kubuntu, I don't know |
| 09:18.41 | chulio | beJIman |
| 09:19.02 | chulio | beJIman sorry;) cool |
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| 09:19.18 | benJIman | I believe they have a remsatered cd of some sort and presumably development builds too. |
| 09:19.29 | benJIman | Best to ask in #kubuntu if you're after kubuntu specific information. |
| 09:19.45 | chulio | nope gentoo here:D |
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| 09:20.55 | chulio | is there any way to limit the trace output in KDE4 build with kdesvn-build? |
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| 09:21.52 | jazka | chulio: try #genkdesvn |
| 09:22.13 | jazka | or are you using the overlay? |
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| 09:23.39 | js0n | branch doesnt contain new functionality right - only bug fixes right? |
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| 09:25.14 | chulio | jazka what is that? |
| 09:25.41 | jazka | you said you're using gentoo, but you're not using the kde overlay for svn ebuilds for kde4? |
| 09:26.03 | chulio | nope kdesvn-build script |
| 09:26.07 | jazka | kk |
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| 09:26.23 | chulio | but I'll take a look at genkdesvn |
| 09:26.48 | js0n | chulio: follow this http://techbase.kde.org/Getting_Started/Build/KDE4 |
| 09:26.55 | chulio | right now I have KDE4 installed for one user only (in his home dir) which works rather well |
| 09:27.14 | jazka | chulio: well the svn ebuilds are slotted, you can install them among kde3 |
| 09:27.15 | js0n | oh okay |
| 09:28.30 | chulio | hehe my kde3 is somesort of broken gentoo kde from svn (for v3) :D |
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| 09:28.59 | chulio | so I wonder how good that would go:D |
| 09:29.09 | jazka | I'm using the svn ebuilds |
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| 09:29.14 | jazka | and works nicely |
| 09:29.42 | chulio | do you have a kde4 as the default + kde3 apps, or the other way around? |
| 09:30.01 | jazka | running kde4 with some kde3 apps |
| 09:30.18 | chulio | nice, thanks for the tip |
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| 09:30.58 | rapsys | hi |
| 09:31.10 | rapsys | May someone take a look to that bug : |
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| 09:31.14 | rapsys | http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=157526 |
| 09:31.31 | rapsys | (i tried kde4 patch but i am completely unable to retrieve content |
| 09:31.48 | rapsys | i have a but with codec charset for reading) |
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| 09:32.20 | giovanni | Sono brutus50,non c'è nessuno in linea per avere alcune informazioni su Sabyon Linux? |
| 09:32.30 | blarnyblarn | hey guys, i am on 3.5.8 and have dual monitors with twinview. monitor 1 is 1280x1024 and monitor 2 is 1024x768. when i maximise a window it maximises over 2 monitors, how can i configure kwin so that i only maximises in the current monitor. ? |
| 09:32.32 | jazka | english please |
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| 09:33.06 | giovanni | no solamente italiano grazie!!!!! |
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| 09:34.57 | blarnyblarn | n/m found it :) |
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| 09:39.52 | giovanni | se qualcuno gentilmente volesse darmi modo di poter avere alcune informazioni ne sarei molto grato a chiunque grazie |
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| 09:41.29 | giovanni | la mia e mail è <brutus50@fastwebnet.it> |
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| 10:16.00 | Defense|Twin | hi, how can i turn off those sound effects in kde4 ? |
| 10:17.16 | Defense|Twin | or not just the effects but the whole kde sound system :/ |
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| 10:24.46 | bottiger | my kde4-kicker (I have no idea what it's called) doesn't start for some reason. is there a manual way to start it? |
| 10:25.17 | bottiger | (plasma in general seems to work fine) |
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| 10:35.51 | soa2ii | Hi there. After upgrading my KDE to 3.5.8 KMail seems to be unable to filter mails directly in a new imap folder. My filter should move for example my spam to the spam folder but it always remains in the INBOX. If I tell the filter that it should move spam to a local folder everything is alright. Anyone an idea why? |
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| 10:40.03 | Witcher | Hi. Why is it that whenever I close my laptop's lid, my session auto-locks and I have to input the logged user password ? |
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| 10:43.32 | tomg | Witcher do you use kpowersave or some similar program? |
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| 10:47.05 | Noodels | Hi, I was wondering about compiling kTorrent from source. I have kTorrent working now, and if I compile the new one from source will I lose all the torrents I am currently downloading/uploading? |
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| 10:47.36 | jazka | no, since the config file is in your home dir |
| 10:48.10 | Noodels | jazka: Thanks, good, I'll do so now. |
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| 10:53.42 | Noodels | What do I do about this error in a compile? : |
| 10:53.42 | Noodels | checking for KDE... configure: error: |
| 10:53.42 | Noodels | in the prefix, you've chosen, are no KDE headers installed. This will fail. |
| 10:53.42 | Noodels | So, check this please and use another prefix! |
| 10:53.53 | jazka | which distro? |
| 10:54.07 | Noodels | jazka: openSuse 10.3 |
| 10:54.13 | jazka | hmm don't know then |
| 10:54.49 | jazka | there's probably somekind of kde-dev package or so |
| 10:54.57 | jazka | you should ask on suse's channel |
| 10:56.07 | Noodels | They just sent me here from the last problem, lol. |
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| 10:58.08 | Noodels | What's the difference between kde4 and kde3? |
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| 10:58.14 | pinotree | you most probably miss the development packages (as in #opensuse which are them) |
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| 10:58.57 | Noodels | Think I've found the right devel packages now. |
| 10:59.04 | theunixgeek | How can I get desktop icons to display, like Computer, Documents, etc if they're not there? |
| 11:00.04 | artie | does now pidgin and its taskbar icon work right in kde4? |
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| 11:16.48 | Stevethepirate | y0.. Can someone tell me howto install kde on ubuntu plz? |
| 11:16.58 | Stevethepirate | or spam a link |
| 11:16.58 | jazka | kde4 or kde3? |
| 11:17.01 | Stevethepirate | 4 |
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| 11:17.15 | jazka | http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.1.php |
| 11:17.16 | Stevethepirate | I can't read the topic properly, due to irssi |
| 11:17.18 | Stevethepirate | :( |
| 11:17.18 | Stevethepirate | :P |
| 11:17.19 | Stevethepirate | ta |
| 11:17.26 | jazka | type /t |
| 11:17.38 | Stevethepirate | o rly? |
| 11:17.38 | Stevethepirate | :P |
| 11:17.41 | Stevethepirate | ta |
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| 11:19.39 | Noodels | I think there was some sort of fault in the configure file for kTorrent. Who should I contact about this? |
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| 11:19.55 | jazka | what kind of fault? :o |
| 11:20.35 | Noodels | During the make step there was a file it couldn't access. Hang on. |
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| 11:20.49 | Noodels | Damn, I didn't log it. |
| 11:20.52 | jazka | svn |
| 11:20.53 | jazka | ? |
| 11:21.00 | Noodels | No. |
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| 11:21.03 | Noodels | Another one. |
| 11:21.08 | Noodels | I'll look for it now. |
| 11:21.31 | Noodels | avahi-qt3 |
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| 11:22.33 | Noodels | I had to install that halfway through make, so I'm thinking: surely the configure file should have detected that I need this? |
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| 11:25.47 | Noodels | KTorrent forums right? |
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| 11:33.24 | como | can anyone tell me in which config file KDE stores font settings? |
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| 11:39.03 | matt__ | Is anyone here using Akregator? I'm using the svn version and am having a couple of problems with it but I'm sure if it's a bug or just - I'm guessing it's me ;-) |
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| 11:41.18 | tomg_ | matt__ which version? |
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| 11:42.56 | matt__ | tomg_: from svn last night. I can't see the article viewer pane (normally in the bottom right) and when you open an article into a new tab it doesn't seem to work either |
| 11:43.32 | tomg_ | matt__ well thats, wierd, mine doesnt even seem to start.... lol |
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| 11:45.49 | matt__ | tomg_: oh! it doesn't look like much has changed recently that should cause a problem. I'll file a bug on it. Thanks for checking |
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| 11:47.59 | tomg_ | matt__ ok ive got it up now, it does seem broken, i cant seem to view any feeds |
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| 11:50.36 | matt__ | tomg_: yeah, the 'open link in external browser' doesn't work for me either. I'm glad it's not just me - I thought I was doing something stupid! |
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| 11:57.01 | tomg_ | matt__ hah maybe were both just stupid |
| 11:57.27 | kaminix | Is KDE PIM already ported to KDE 4? |
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| 11:57.50 | tomg_ | kaminix yea, but its still under development |
| 11:57.56 | tomg_ | most of it works fine for me |
| 11:58.18 | kaminix | Okay. I'm just trying to estimate when KDE 4 will start becomming useful to me ^^ |
| 11:58.32 | kaminix | Current estimations: Sometime around the beginning of next year :( |
| 11:58.33 | pinotree | then kde 4.1, probably |
| 11:58.38 | kaminix | Really? |
| 11:58.38 | tomg_ | kaminix what is it lacking for you atm? |
| 11:59.01 | kaminix | tomg_: Stability, and a majority of the applications are made for KDE 3 |
| 11:59.32 | tomg_ | kaminix kde3 apps still work in kde4 though, and stability hasnt really been an issue over here, i suppose its personal preference |
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| 12:00.45 | kaminix | My mental image of KDE 4 is that it's currently just a mischmasch of awesome but incomplete ideas and KDE 3. |
| 12:00.49 | kaminix | Lunchtime ^^ |
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| 12:01.31 | tomg_ | kaminix its not as bad as you expect :) |
| 12:01.35 | ThomasD | does anyone here knows a kde application to download complete sites? |
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| 12:02.08 | ThomasD | some webspider kde app? |
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| 12:06.58 | Magaly | hi |
| 12:07.21 | Magaly | somebody use kmail+ssmtp? |
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| 12:13.50 | apriori | ThomasD: just use wget -m |
| 12:14.35 | ThomasD | apriori: yeah, found it :) |
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| 12:14.48 | apriori | be careful with the depth, though... |
| 12:14.53 | apriori | it might else crawl just everywhere |
| 12:14.57 | ThomasD | -l 3 i did |
| 12:15.15 | apriori | well, you need some tries to find the proper value |
| 12:15.29 | ThomasD | uhu and -l 3 did just fine :) |
| 12:15.35 | apriori | good |
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| 12:18.13 | scotty_ | G'day all |
| 12:18.28 | scotty_ | Does anyone know anything about xine? |
| 12:18.37 | apriori | scotty_: I know it exists :P |
| 12:18.48 | apriori | ask for specific please |
| 12:19.00 | scotty_ | (There's not very many people in the #xine channel and they all seem to be asleep or something). |
| 12:19.12 | apriori | *more, I meant |
| 12:19.13 | scotty_ | :) apriori |
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| 12:19.20 | scotty_ | OK...... |
| 12:19.36 | scotty_ | I'd like to increase the amount (and hence time length) of streaming audio/video that is buffered before playback begins/resumes |
| 12:19.50 | scotty_ | Will buffers.audio_num_buffers and buffers.video_num_buffers do this? |
| 12:19.52 | apriori | in players like kaffeine? |
| 12:20.07 | scotty_ | Or are those settings related to decoding? |
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| 12:20.27 | scotty_ | Yes, in Kaffeine specifically |
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| 12:21.36 | pinotree | scotty_: #xine please |
| 12:21.56 | scotty_ | (There's not very many people in the #xine channel and they all seem to be asleep or something). |
| 12:22.03 | pinotree | i don't care |
| 12:22.06 | apriori | scotty_: hm, no idea.. just try it, run the video, increase these values and make sure kaffeine looses the connection, then you'll see |
| 12:22.13 | pinotree | the topic here is kde, not xine |
| 12:22.33 | scotty_ | OK |
| 12:22.43 | Jucato | scotty_: asking in the wrong place, just because the right place isn't responding as fast as you want it to, will not magically give you the right answer :) |
| 12:23.24 | apriori | scotty_: try some more general channel, perhaps.. something like #mediaplayers or whatever |
| 12:23.41 | sandsmark | a posteriori |
| 12:24.22 | Jucato | :) |
| 12:24.50 | scotty_ | That's true Jucato, I just thought I'd give it a try. If the folks in this channel dislike that I understand and I'll drop the subject. |
| 12:25.28 | pinotree | scotty_: please don't mix "dislike" and "offtopic" |
| 12:25.46 | scotty_ | Thanks apriori, will try both those things. |
| 12:26.30 | scotty_ | Not mixing, it just seems that you dislike things that are offtopic |
| 12:27.06 | apriori | well, not here, I'd like to add |
| 12:27.11 | apriori | *not all here |
| 12:27.16 | pinotree | scotty_: there are ~370 people in here; do you imagine what would happen if even half of them would ask a single offtopic question? |
| 12:27.42 | scotty_ | Well I would help them if I knew the answer |
| 12:27.56 | scotty_ | Possibly in a pm if the channel was getting out of control |
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| 12:28.13 | apriori | I don't see a problem with that.. given the fact that this channel is completely silent, rather often |
| 12:28.31 | pinotree | apriori: not my fault if you are not here often... |
| 12:29.02 | apriori | I'm always here, when I'm in IRC.. which is rather often |
| 12:29.20 | pinotree | and Jucato can tell you as well there are so many occasions when there are even 5 (ontopic) discussions at the same time here |
| 12:29.36 | Jucato | :D |
| 12:29.50 | sandsmark | where do I enable the smileys in konversation? |
| 12:30.03 | sandsmark | there's a config file somewhere, but I don't remember what to put in it |
| 12:30.06 | Jucato | sandsmark: there's a tip in the FAQ in the handbook or in the website |
| 12:30.11 | sandsmark | ok |
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| 12:30.29 | Sho_ | sandsmark: http://konversation.kde.org/wiki/Konversation_Tips_and_Tricks#Enabling_Graphical_Emoticons |
| 12:30.33 | sandsmark | thanks |
| 12:30.36 | Jucato | or you can ask Sho_ ^^^^ |
| 12:30.43 | sandsmark | ;) |
| 12:30.48 | sandsmark | that's what I used to do;) |
| 12:30.57 | Jucato | (sorry, I was typing a lengthy reply to scotty_ and apriori) |
| 12:31.14 | scotty_ | ooh, I just noticed KDE 4.0.1 is out. Has anyone updated yet? |
| 12:31.28 | apriori | desperately trying to do so, scotty_ |
| 12:31.36 | Jucato | "here's a small fact about IRC support in most FOSS projects: channels have rules... different channels have different rules. some channels discourage offtopic conversations and unrelated questions in the main support channels, which are reserved for *on-topic* support questions" |
| 12:31.40 | Jucato | (that was it) |
| 12:32.42 | scotty_ | I don't have a problem with that |
| 12:33.54 | scotty_ | Most websites have similar rules for their forums |
| 12:34.47 | scotty_ | eg. Firefox support vs. their web development forum |
| 12:34.49 | Magaly | somebody can help me with kmail+ssmtp? |
| 12:34.50 | sandsmark | well, some channels discourages it, but don't really care unless the noise gets to loud |
| 12:34.55 | Jucato | yeah... wonder why some people presume otherwise when it comes to IRC... |
| 12:35.10 | Jucato | anyway... even that is offtopic now hahah |
| 12:35.14 | sandsmark | because of mikko777 in #archlinux |
| 12:35.43 | scotty_ | I was just thinking that myself :) |
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| 12:38.12 | dionyziz | Hi guys... in KDE, how do I make the links I click on external programs (such as Skype) open up with Firefox (my default browser) instead of Konqueror (the default KDE browser)? |
| 12:38.38 | Fanta | small problem: kmail doesen't accept a dot before the@ in my e-mail address.... |
| 12:38.51 | Jucato | dionyziz: you'll have to configure those non-KDE apps separately |
| 12:38.58 | pinotree | dionyziz: kde has no control about what skype does |
| 12:39.03 | Jucato | the settings in KControl -> KDE Components -> Component Chooser only affect the behavior of KDE apps |
| 12:39.53 | Fanta | opensuse10.3 kde 3.5.8 release 44.1 |
| 12:40.11 | dionyziz | OK Jucato, pinotree. Thank you for your assistance :-) |
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| 12:40.47 | Fanta | can't finde any in kmail rc...like identity |
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| 12:41.57 | Jucato | Fanta: try asking in #kontact just in case |
| 12:42.22 | Fanta | thanx |
| 12:42.43 | apriori | does anyone know where in the kdelibs-4.0.1 src I need to search for the CheckSymbolExists scripts used/created by cmake? it does use some wrong path variable here |
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| 12:51.01 | apriori | does anyone have an idea what's going wrong here? PCRE_INCLUDE_DIR:PATH is defined as /usr/include/pcre (correct), but for some strange reason the CMakeError.log [http://rafb.net/p/vQXKmK47.html] shows that ($kdedir/pcre) /opt/kde4/include/pcre is used in symbol existence checks |
| 12:51.28 | apriori | although the cmakelists file in $srcroot/kjs looks correct (truncated: http://rafb.net/p/SH4K9279.html) |
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| 12:54.54 | apriori | according to obj-build/CMakeCache.txt, the value for PCRE_INCLUDE_DIR:PATH was redefined as /opt/kde4/include/pcre .. but I don't know where |
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| 12:56.30 | apriori | found the error, nvm |
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| 13:16.38 | kaminix | Is Kopete for KDE 4 done? :o |
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| 13:18.04 | Jucato | probably not. the one in 4.0.x is just the beginning. might want to ask in #kopete for more details |
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| 13:21.52 | sandsmark | hmm, kmail has stopped quoting mail when I reply |
| 13:22.47 | Sho_ | Probably as an alternative to finally implementing the feature of electro-shocking the user when he quotes the full mail before adding a one-line reply |
| 13:23.28 | sandsmark | Sho_: I know very well how to quote properly, but I have to resort to ssh into my server, open mutt, hit r, and write the reply in vim |
| 13:23.32 | sandsmark | it is not optimal |
| 13:23.45 | Sho_ | sandsmark: heh I wasn't talking about you specifically :) |
| 13:23.52 | sandsmark | ;) |
| 13:23.53 | sandsmark | thanks |
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| 13:24.25 | sandsmark | but is there a config option somewhere that got turned on, maybe? |
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| 13:27.15 | kaminix | What's a BC? "We need to prepare for that move because most people want to keep a BC during Kopete 1.0 period." |
| 13:27.54 | sandsmark | b* candidate |
| 13:28.34 | kaminix | Beta or Release Candidate? |
| 13:28.52 | sandsmark | beta-release candidate, maybe? |
| 13:29.23 | kaminix | ^^ |
| 13:29.33 | Jucato | Binary Compatibility |
| 13:29.37 | sandsmark | ah |
| 13:29.40 | Jucato | afaik... |
| 13:29.58 | kaminix | I see... |
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| 14:00.07 | matsmats | hello, is there an easy way to emulate a click of the wheel button with a click of only the two buttons? I thought there was an option in kcontrol -> mouse but it's not there |
| 14:00.09 | nareshov | Hi, is there something wrong with the font-picker for Konsole? It doesn't seem to recognise fonts like ttf-lucida-typewriter :| |
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| 14:00.31 | pinotree | nareshov: konsole can use only monospaced fonts; is that font monospaced? |
| 14:00.45 | nareshov | yes |
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| 14:01.33 | nareshov | And how can I set a custom DPI ? |
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| 14:02.45 | nareshov | Heck, even Luxi Mono isn't recognised! :| |
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| 14:24.59 | Mirrakor | KDE4 looks good :) |
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| 14:28.24 | goodhabit | Hello. I am linux newbie, and I need advice. I had kde4 svn on my gentoo linux system, but later I have swithced on ubuntu. How I can use kde4 svn on debian-like distro? I mean if I'll compile it and install "by hand" I will not control it, like removing etc. Maybe there are exists some tool for doing that? Thanks. |
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| 14:29.27 | Jucato | goodhabit: you can still control it (specially in removing). http://techbase.kde.org has instructions |
| 14:29.44 | Prof_Frink | goodhabit: `checkinstall` is the tool to do that, but I'm not sure how well it would handle something as large as KDE4 |
| 14:29.59 | Jucato | there are also automated tools/scripts... forgot their names.. kdesvn-build and construct? |
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| 14:30.03 | Jucato | konstruct* |
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| 14:30.48 | Jucato | Prof_Frink: checkinstall is a quick and dirty way to make a package, and he doesn't need to go through that if he sticks to building kde from svn |
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| 14:34.02 | goodhabit | Jucato, Prof_Frink, thanks a lot, I'm going to check that. |
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| 14:35.28 | zLinux | hi |
| 14:35.45 | zLinux | aren't you missing the classic linux screen savers in kde? |
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| 14:36.47 | nareshov | thiago: Is bug = #155707 expected to be fixed? |
| 14:37.40 | zLinux | why latest stable version of kde has just few screensavers? |
| 14:37.52 | zLinux | where did the previous classic screensavers go? |
| 14:38.02 | zLinux | and how to get them back? i missed them =( |
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| 14:41.33 | zLinux | or at least how to install more kde screensavers? |
| 14:41.58 | goodhabit | Seems like konstruct is building 3.5.7 version of kde. |
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| 14:52.27 | mslee | hi. i'm trying to get the 'Win' key to be used as a modifier key in kde4 (updated from svn 11 hours ago). there is no difference in the output of xmodmap and xmodmap -pke between my kde3 and kde4 installs (kde3 works properly). where could i look next? |
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| 15:07.03 | hdevalence`afk | I can't get kdebase to compile: Please set the following variables: KDE4_PHONON_LIBRARY |
| 15:09.18 | Jucato | was kdelibs properly built and installed? |
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| 15:10.01 | hdevalence | yeah |
| 15:10.26 | hdevalence | wel,, it built and installed without any error messages |
| 15:10.56 | dasKreech | It was built properly |
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| 15:11.06 | dasKreech | Lots of thought went into it |
| 15:11.25 | Jucato | right... |
| 15:12.01 | hdevalence | I don't have Soprano or FAM |
| 15:12.26 | hdevalence | but it says "Phonon support enabled" or some such when building kdelibs |
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| 15:15.55 | hdevalence | both kdelibs and kdelpimlibs compile & install, but kdebase gives the error |
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| 15:18.13 | hdevalence | and I tried export KDE4_PHONON_LIBRARY=/home/harry/kde/lib/libphonon.so |
| 15:18.19 | hdevalence | but that doesn't work |
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| 15:19.27 | hdevalence | hm.. |
| 15:19.50 | hdevalence | I removed CMakeCache.txt in the builddir and now it seems to be compiling... |
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| 15:25.50 | vmlemon | Hi, has anyone attempted an in-place upgrade from KDE 4.0.0 to 4.0.1 using the source tarballs? |
| 15:26.19 | Sho_ | not me, but I see no reason why it wouldn't work |
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| 15:43.56 | TxukieTxiki | hello |
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| 15:46.33 | |Angelus| | why when i go to download the dvd iso from one of the mirrors, its says 4G , but when i start downloading kget says its about 230Mb |
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| 15:49.21 | boom1992 | |Angelus|: kde3? |
| 15:49.30 | boom1992 | then it's fixed in kde4 ;) |
| 15:49.33 | boom1992 | (kget2) |
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| 15:50.59 | TxukieTxiki | why on konqueror in kde4 i cannot access websites by just typing www.xxxxxxxxxxx.com in the address bar? I have to type the http:// in front |
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| 16:10.59 | Kingmilo | Hi all. Can someone tell me what the name is of the 'config' file in the users $HOME directory where the Desktop Background settings are stored? the wallpaper - thnx |
| 16:11.25 | thiago_home | kdesktoprc, I think |
| 16:11.32 | thiago_home | $HOME/.kde/share/config/kdesktoprc |
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| 16:16.19 | Harny | o..O |
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| 16:28.50 | faemir | Is it a known bug in 4.0.1 that when you use web shortcuts konq crashes? |
| 16:29.21 | pinotree | yes, fixed already for kde 4.0.2 |
| 16:29.53 | thewhitepelican | July is coming :) |
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| 16:31.45 | pinotree | next month |
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| 16:35.36 | Apocalypse_dn | Where can i find source code of oxygen? |
| 16:35.39 | Apocalypse_dn | Hello! |
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| 16:37.27 | dasKreech | #oxygen |
| 16:38.05 | Apocalypse_dn | dasKreech, owh |
| 16:38.09 | Apocalypse_dn | thanks |
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| 16:39.15 | apriori | is it possible to configure solid to use no soundserver at all? |
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| 16:45.44 | pinotree | apriori: uh? |
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| 16:50.00 | apriori | pinotree: in system settings->computer administration->sound->device preference I can only choose between jackd and esd, but no OSS devices are shown |
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| 16:50.37 | pinotree | apriori: go to the advanced tab, and check the "use oss devices" |
| 16:50.45 | apriori | already done - no effect |
| 16:50.56 | apriori | oh, wait a second |
| 16:51.43 | apriori | pinotree: there is no advanced tab there |
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| 16:52.00 | apriori | pinotree: only the backend tab with "show OSS devices", which is already checked |
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| 16:54.36 | vmlemon | Any ideas of when the Kopete, KOffice and Konversation KDE 4 ports/versions are going to arrive? |
| 16:55.16 | apriori | pinotree: any ideas? |
| 16:55.21 | pinotree | nope |
| 16:55.30 | apriori | okay |
| 16:55.36 | pinotree | vmlemon: kopete was already released |
| 16:55.42 | pinotree | koffice in few months |
| 16:55.47 | pinotree | konversation.. dunno |
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| 17:03.44 | broadcaster | hello. (finally properly connected.) can kde somehow prevent udev from creating devices? i have a camera which is usually recognized as a PTP as well as a mass storage device, but it stopped working as mass storage. it still works kde is not running. |
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| 17:10.08 | broadcaster | i meant: "it still works WHEN kde is not running" above. i.e. when i shutdown KDE and plug the camera in, it it detected and a device ode is created. when i start kde, the device node disappears and it is never created again. |
| 17:10.32 | HNT | Hello everybody, can you tell me howto enable drag and drop bethween to screen (I'm using kde 3.5 with a dual screen system) ? |
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| 17:15.07 | Debolaz | If anyone here does kde-windows development, the kde packages lacks propery dependency on pcre. This was previously possible to work around due to the installer letting the user install packages manually, but now, seemingly in the name of userfriendlyness, this is no longer possible. |
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| 17:23.43 | gladier_ | hey guys - really quick question - how do i restart the kde media manager? |
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| 17:25.25 | gladier_ | typical .. found it just after asking |
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| 17:28.14 | dpy | hi guys |
| 17:28.20 | dpy | anyone here using k9copy? |
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| 18:05.40 | sarefo | iirc i once was able to hibernate linux from kde, but i cannot find it in 3.5; can somebody give me a hint where to search? :) |
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| 18:07.56 | dudydoo | hi. can anyone tell me please if it is possible to install/build KDE 4.01 release from SVN on Fedora 8? thanks. I know I could install Fedora 9 Alpha, but I'd prefer to do it on 8. Do I just follow the build instructions on the kde website? |
| 18:09.07 | pinotree | yes |
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| 18:09.19 | Kingmilo | dudydoo, i would join #fedora fist of all, they can instruct you how to do this. You will need to add/change a location to yum.conf to pull in the newer packages. |
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| 18:10.10 | dudydoo | @Kingmilo - ok will do thanks, I thought I'd be better off asking here first |
| 18:11.09 | Kingmilo | dudydoo, no problem dude you can ask anywhere you like ;) |
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| 18:26.59 | TomJ | I am in Opensuse 10.3, and I have KDE3 and KDE4 installed. I run KDE3, but I use a couple of KDE4 apps. On my KDE3 menu, I have "Konsole/KDE4" as an option. I clicked on Edit for that item, and the command line is simply 'konsole' and it does not specify any app path working path. But when I run 'konsole' from a command line or Alt+F2, it runs the KDE3 version. I dont understand how this menu item is running the KDE4 entry |
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| 18:31.00 | anom01y | how do I get a digital camera to work with USB |
| 18:31.06 | anom01y | kde says no files/folders |
| 18:31.13 | anom01y | but it detects that it was connected |
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| 18:36.29 | smurfslover | anom01y: use digikam |
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| 18:52.47 | Andrew67 | is it possible to change the color of kiten's kanji links? |
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| 18:56.13 | massimo | Hello. Konqueror can encode audio cd by drag and drop. Where can I find that toolbar again? |
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| 18:56.29 | pinotree | open audiocd:/ in konqueror |
| 18:57.17 | massimo | pinotree: Ok. But there was also a toolbar. "Add" only offers amarok,samba,folders,web |
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| 19:00.19 | nicofrand | hi |
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| 19:03.40 | massimo | Hm, how was this konqueror toolbar called offering sources such as cdrom:/, a package seems to be missing at my minimal Gentoo meta kde installation. |
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| 19:04.37 | tech9iner | so mates.. been bout 18mos off kde sadly.. can someone explain wtf konqi seems tad bit obtuse & arbitrary on when konqi chooses to offer 'sort' in its menus please?.. im finding sometimes its offered conveniently for my keyboard calls.. others it seems to arbitrarily the only path to choosing the file sort in file management profile is to slow down & reach for stupid mouse & manually click on headers to resort as desired?!? |
| 19:05.24 | tech9iner | not sure the logic on this.. less its to slow down kde productivity lol |
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| 19:08.40 | massimo | tech9iner: You can sort by headlines in fileview, you can also select more than one sorting there. |
| 19:08.42 | tech9iner | ttmywts hmmmmmmm.. |
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| 19:09.07 | tech9iner | massimo: u must mean manually with mouse clicks aye? |
| 19:09.32 | massimo | tech9iner: Yes. I wonder these options aren't offered by menu. |
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| 19:10.44 | tech9iner | exactly me point massimo .. what 'damned human 'bean' ASSumed there would be times/views where the keyboard calls for file sorting should not be necessary thus left completely off menus?? weird for kde that is so infamously keyboard configurable as a rule |
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| 19:11.55 | smurfslover | tech9iner: maybe we should start a crusade against the mouse |
| 19:12.00 | smurfslover | lol |
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| 19:13.08 | jrick | tech9iner: uhm, i just came in... what are you talking about? |
| 19:13.33 | tech9iner | i chalk it up to ignorance smurfslover .. ppl are just thrown pc's with no real edu about how keyboard operations are upto 6x faster than mouse ran input is.. |
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| 19:14.55 | mmm_ | hi |
| 19:15.06 | smurfslover | most people are already happy when things mostly work when they click it |
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| 19:15.26 | jrick | what application are we talking about? |
| 19:15.59 | tech9iner | i be the 'platypus' of tux world hehe.. im utterly gui-dependent & command line challenged.. yet fanatic about pure keyboard pc input & operations.. to point that when i am operating pc's or laptops on client sites.. staff gather round to watch in awe lol.. they'r so accustomed to slow mouse input it amazes them to see blokes like me fly tween apps n such 3-6x faster than they can with their slug mouse operations.. |
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| 19:16.26 | mmm_ | anyone bangladeshi here??? |
| 19:16.30 | doobeydoo | hi whats a good site to buy pc's from? (cyberpowerpc, dell, etc) |
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| 19:16.46 | jrick | tech9iner: are you reffering to a specific applicaion? |
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| 19:17.36 | funky | 'lo |
| 19:17.42 | tech9iner | nothing makes one like me happier at some government staffers desk smurfslover than to watch & wait for them to input my name.. take fingers off keyboard home.. mouse click next input field.. blah blah infinitum lmao.. |
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| 19:18.46 | smurfslover | the kind of people that are not aware there's a tab button on their keyboard |
| 19:18.47 | tech9iner | jrick: missed lines fyi4u mate ...been bout 18mos off kde sadly.. can someone explain wtf konqi seems tad bit obtuse & arbitrary on when konqi chooses to offer 'sort' in its menus please?.. im finding sometimes its offered conveniently for my keyboard calls.. others it seems to arbitrarily the only path to choosing the file sort in file management profile is to slow down & reach for stupid mouse & manually click on headers to resort as desired?!? |
| 19:18.49 | funky | progress status from cmake is great :D |
| 19:19.16 | Andrew67 | so, kiten's color is hardcoded? |
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| 19:20.15 | jrick | tech9iner: i like using krusader, it's a much more advanced file manager, and everything can be done via keyboard |
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| 19:20.49 | jrick | it builds on the principles of the "orthadox file manager", like Norton Commander for DOS and mc for Linux |
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| 19:21.36 | tech9iner | niyice.. i shall check k out jrick.. tx laddie |
| 19:21.43 | RxDx | please, what distro (with KDE4) do you guys recommend for a begginer? |
| 19:22.27 | jrick | RxDx: both Kubuntu and SuSe are easy, but I heard that suse is more polished, although it can be sluggish at times |
| 19:22.40 | smurfslover | mandriva is user friendly |
| 19:22.45 | jrick | yes, mandriva too |
| 19:22.48 | RxDx | i just hate kubuntu... Ubuntu is really much better and diff.. |
| 19:22.59 | RxDx | is mandriva KDE4? |
| 19:23.14 | jrick | idk... i hate rpm, lol |
| 19:23.16 | smurfslover | it has kde4 |
| 19:23.22 | RxDx | i think that ill try opensuse... |
| 19:23.33 | smurfslover | so does pclinuxos |
| 19:23.55 | RxDx | jrick, me too.. cuz i use ubuntu for a long time.. so i think deb is much easier |
| 19:24.15 | smurfslover | but kde4 is not what you're looking for when you're new to linux |
| 19:24.31 | jrick | RxDx: actually, i'm partial to the more "advanced" operating systems, like ArchLinux and FreeBSD |
| 19:24.32 | onesandzeros | hello all. In Konq, in System/Storage Media, what must be running on the system (dbus, hald, udev, etc etc) for an sdcard or usbstick to be plugged in, show up, and 'just work'? |
| 19:24.34 | Thunderbird | really wait until kde4 is more mature |
| 19:24.36 | jrick | debian is nice too, though |
| 19:24.43 | RxDx | arch is really hard (i think) |
| 19:24.55 | jrick | it's not too bad if you know how to type in a terminal ;) |
| 19:25.04 | tech9iner | RxDx: i cut me tao of tux teetch on fedora core.. thus DO NOT recommend to others hehe.. found suse9.x few yrs back & have never used any main distros since .. ;]].. albeit im also a fan of damnsmalllinux on old weak-kneed pc's & laptops too.. ;]] |
| 19:25.29 | jrick | BSD ftw!!! :) |
| 19:25.34 | jrick | *hides |
| 19:25.41 | RxDx | tech9iner, ill do what u said... try opensuse |
| 19:25.49 | vmlemon | Hmm, just wondering, is Decibel required to compile Kopete? |
| 19:27.04 | tech9iner | RxDx: join #opensuse mate & immediately type '!helpme @ RxDx' & get to know our uber 'self-help' bot SUSEhelp ;]].. she'll save ye some time mate |
| 19:27.43 | RxDx | tech9iner, sure.. thanks a lot dude :) |
| 19:28.07 | RxDx | there is no #opensuse channel.. it redirect you for #suse |
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| 19:29.15 | Thunderbird | does anyone have experience with the 'highlight tabulators' option in kate from kde 4.0.x? |
| 19:29.32 | Thunderbird | on older kate versions you saw a special character to distinguish between tabs and spaces |
| 19:30.30 | tech9iner | no worries RxDx one & same ;]].. was #suse for yrs till the name change to 'opensuse' hence the freenode redirect mate |
| 19:30.50 | RxDx | tech9iner, hmm :) what is factory version? |
| 19:31.00 | pinotree | RxDx: #suse please |
| 19:31.08 | RxDx | ok |
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| 19:31.12 | RxDx | sorry |
| 19:34.04 | jrick | tech9iner: i'm sure you'll like it :) |
| 19:34.44 | tech9iner | if kybrd powa'foe as inferred jrick .. indeed i shall ;]] |
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| 19:39.14 | tech9iner | mk now mates.. for possibly a very kde specific mystery please.. just today seemingly out of the blue.. sit down & attempted to run 'konsole' ... not su-konsole.. just user level konsole.. & wtf?!?.. i cant seem to call kde's konsole without it running as root calls..? in last 4+ weeks since coming back to opensuse 10.3 / kde this is a first.. actually ever iirc.. i can run xterm as user fine.. but all konsole calls from cli or menus or shortcut |
| 19:39.14 | tech9iner | keys or even f4 from user konqi open demanding root password? |
| 19:39.38 | tech9iner | anyone seen / resolved this before please.. tx |
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| 19:46.08 | jrick | tech9iner: what is your output when you run konsole as a user? paste it here: http://rafb.net/paste |
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| 19:46.48 | jrick | try running konsole from xterm and see what the output is |
| 19:47.47 | tech9iner | hmmm.. well tx for request of info jrick yet.. the only output perse upon calling for konsole it it opens with 'Password:' demands mate.. currently i have not found a path to run a user level session konsole?.. dont recall how to drop back down from su konsole to user here.. |
| 19:48.02 | tech9iner | it it opens*is it opens |
| 19:48.49 | jrick | wait, are you user or root? |
| 19:50.14 | tech9iner | as a user jrick .. i cannot seem to open or run a user level konsole currently.. all paths seem to open as if called for from root.. i am not purposefully logged in as root to be clear as mudd |
| 19:50.31 | jrick | tech9iner: kde 3 or 4? |
| 19:51.05 | tech9iner | opensuse 10.3 iirc is sorta mixed.. refresh me on how to confirm versions please? |
| 19:51.19 | jrick | idk, i never really used suse |
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| 19:51.35 | tech9iner | via terminal / xterm i meant jrick hehe |
| 19:51.40 | tech9iner | not suse specifically |
| 19:51.53 | tech9iner | what cli iow's please jrick |
| 19:52.23 | jrick | uh... can you right click your panel and see what is there? |
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| 19:52.46 | jrick | or is there a "plasma" icon in the top right corner of your screen? |
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| 19:54.49 | tech9iner | plasma icon eh no.. jrick & r'mouse click on dtop offers no 'kde about' version info afaik |
| 19:55.20 | tech9iner | does anyone know cli to confirm wtf kde version is please? |
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| 19:56.25 | nakeee | how do I take a screen capture? |
| 19:56.33 | tech9iner | wow.. that hard eh lol.. 'kde --version' taint it |
| 19:56.57 | nakeee | oh nm:) |
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| 19:58.36 | jrick | tech9iner: open http://rafb.net/paste and paste in the contents of cd /usr/bin; ls |
| 19:58.56 | tech9iner | mk tx jrick |
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| 20:00.56 | tech9iner | jrick: what cli downs me from su session in konsole to user please?.. iow's howto switch to my user |
| 20:01.07 | jrick | exit ? |
| 20:01.22 | jose | tech9iner: CTRL+D |
| 20:01.23 | tech9iner | ?.. exit closes the konsole mate |
| 20:01.44 | jrick | yes, but if you su'd to root, then exit will bring you back to a user |
| 20:02.24 | tech9iner | jrick: but im NOT 'su'ing' to root from user mates.. recall.. this is my problem.. currently i have no way to open a user konsole lol |
| 20:02.28 | smurfslover | tech9iner: exit works to |
| 20:02.47 | tech9iner | thus.. once i open a root konsole.. how to change via cli from root to user ? |
| 20:03.00 | jose | tech9iner: su <user> |
| 20:03.01 | jrick | su - username |
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| 20:03.15 | tech9iner | ahhh.. thar she blows lads.. tx tx |
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| 20:03.46 | tech9iner | i sux @ cli's in first place.. now been most of 18 mos since using the 3.5 cli's i was forced to hehe.. |
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| 20:04.19 | jrick | tech9iner: just to make sure you're root... what does whoami say? |
| 20:04.36 | tech9iner | root first.. till the 'su user' bit.. now im user |
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| 20:05.07 | jrick | and can you type in konsole to open it? |
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| 20:08.43 | tech9iner | look jrick & ??.. if i call konsole from anywhere.. konqi.. via alt-f2 dialog.. kmenu-terminal.. etc.. this is how it opens demanding root pw & currently me only path to user sessions?!!.. http://rafb.net/p/G3RUTa18.html |
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| 20:09.01 | tech9iner | again this showed its ugly heads just this day.. hadnt happened last 4+ wks since installing opensuse10.3 / kde mates |
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| 20:10.51 | jrick | tech9iner: does it prompt you for your root password when opening konsole from the menus? |
| 20:11.44 | tech9iner | jrick: & heres your requested 'cd /usr/bin; ls' output too lad.. http://rafb.net/p/8HbfVi68.html |
| 20:12.18 | tech9iner | lmao.. eh.. yest jrick .. i chuckles cause ive clarified this point last line hehe wink;wink; |
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| 20:12.39 | tech9iner | matters now who / from where i call up konsole jrick it opens demanding root pw |
| 20:12.40 | jrick | yes, it looks like KDE4 is installed |
| 20:12.45 | Lanoxx_ | what means dvd:// protocol not supported in konqueror |
| 20:12.45 | tech9iner | now*not |
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| 20:14.48 | jrick | tech9iner: but kde4 konsole does not seem to be installed on your system, so it must be running the kde3.5 version |
| 20:15.07 | jrick | click help > about kde |
| 20:15.39 | tech9iner | kinda what i hinted earlier.. i had heard that opensuse 10.3 has bitsNbytes of both depending on how / what is installed.. |
| 20:15.47 | tech9iner | mk.. |
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| 20:16.53 | thiago_home | Lanoxx_: it means it's not supported (never has been) |
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| 20:19.56 | Stoffer | I don't think translucency or shadows are working for me... in terms of normal windows. It works fine for the K-menu |
| 20:19.57 | jrick | tech9iner: what is in your Session menu? |
| 20:21.02 | tech9iner | jrick: k desktop environment. release 3.5.8 ''release 33.2'' |
| 20:21.16 | Stoffer | is translucency run by the same engine as shadows? |
| 20:21.20 | tech9iner | jrick: '''in''' my session menu? |
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| 20:21.33 | jrick | tech9iner: yes, what is listed there, like shell, root shell... ? |
| 20:22.12 | tech9iner | jrick: sorry.. unclear you query lad?.. listed where?.. |
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| 20:22.32 | jrick | tech9iner: in konsole, what is listed under the Session menu? |
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| 20:22.58 | jrick | like on mine, I have New Shell, New Root Shell, and a bunch of others... |
| 20:23.04 | tech9iner | ahh.. sorry sorry jrick lmao.. im sooo unaccustomed to ever dropping konsole pane menus i was tmp'ly lost lad |
| 20:25.08 | jrick | tech9iner: better yet, open Settings > Configure Konsole > Session |
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| 20:25.33 | jrick | click on Shell in the list of sessions if it is there |
| 20:25.46 | jrick | What is listed in General? |
| 20:28.37 | tech9iner | jrick: http://picpaste.com/pics/konsoleMenu4jrick.1202675299.jpeg |
| 20:29.32 | jrick | tech9iner: thanks for that screenie. ok, Konsole is opening up "New Root Shell" by default |
| 20:29.39 | jrick | try opening New Shell and see what happens |
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| 20:41.41 | jrick | tech9iner: what happens when you open a "New Shell" from the Session menu? are you able to use Konsole without it prompting for root? |
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| 20:58.10 | HS^ | plasma delivers ' beauty' , but what i see right now is big black applets, totally out of style with oxygen. anyone knows what to expect from this in the future? is this "it" ? |
| 21:00.13 | g2g591 | HS^: there will be different borders for the applets (not sure about any thing more) |
| 21:00.17 | pinotree | HS^: you know the meaning of "work in progress", right? |
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| 21:02.09 | HS^ | maybe its an idea to couple those borders in the kde style, instead of handling as seperate thing..... or this is mayb done already? ,, |
| 21:02.14 | HS^ | got to ho |
| 21:02.15 | HS^ | go |
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| 21:12.56 | Mirrakor | Is it a bad idea to install KDE 4.0.1 on a laptop with 1,4Ghz and 256MB Ram? |
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| 21:22.01 | jrick | tech9iner: hey, i'm back... did you get Konsole fixed? |
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| 21:30.37 | dirtsandwich | alright I'm having some issues getting kde going on gentoo. anyone here that can help? |
| 21:31.00 | boom1992 | #gentoo-kde ? |
| 21:31.12 | dirtsandwich | everyone is asleep evidently |
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| 21:33.13 | pinotree | dirtsandwich: see topic: "distro related questions go to distro channel" |
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| 21:35.23 | dirtsandwich | thanks for the helpful suggestion pinotree.... if you notice the topic in gentoo-kde it says "If we are too quiet try #kde" Which I actually mentioned to boom1992. |
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| 21:35.54 | pinotree | well, better g to #gentoo for gentoo-specific stuff, we cannot help about those |
| 21:36.56 | paulkoan | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:37.27 | jrick | paulkoan: lol, happened to me before too :/ |
| 21:37.43 | jrick | time to change it ;) |
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| 21:38.10 | paulkoan | damn... |
| 21:38.16 | paulkoan | What happened there? |
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| 21:38.28 | pinotree | you added a space before the /msg |
| 21:38.44 | paulkoan | heh |
| 21:38.50 | jrick | paulkoan: only type that in the server, not in the chanel |
| 21:39.08 | paulkoan | of course - stupid |
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| 21:48.06 | jrick | any estimate to when kde 3.5.9 will be tagged and later released? |
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| 21:51.01 | pinotree | jrick: 13th and 19th, resp |
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| 21:51.23 | jrick | pinotree: thanks, just wanted the heads up :) |
| 21:51.38 | jrick | is it just a bug fix release? |
| 21:51.54 | pinotree | yes |
| 21:52.04 | jrick | any improvements in KHTML? |
| 21:52.39 | pinotree | don't think so |
| 21:52.49 | jrick | :( |
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| 21:53.30 | t_s_o | seems like all the good stuff goes to 4.x now... |
| 21:53.31 | pinotree | well, the efforts are now towards kde 4 |
| 21:54.05 | jrick | pinotree: understood, i would run 4, but it's not in the FreeBSD ports yet... |
| 21:54.18 | pinotree | t_s_o: (stop reading my mind ¬.¬ ) |
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| 21:54.37 | t_s_o | sorry, there is to much fun stuff in there ;) |
| 21:55.08 | pinotree | (np, j/k ;) ) |
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| 22:02.43 | yaron | Hi |
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| 22:03.04 | pinotree | (wow, a new record!) |
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| 22:03.39 | tech9iner | jrick: sorry.. unplanned visitor.. |
| 22:04.11 | yaron | I'm installing kde 3.5.8 rpms (with yum) but nothing is added to the K menu... any ideas what might be wrong? |
| 22:04.13 | jrick | ah, ok |
| 22:04.51 | tech9iner | jrick: http://picpaste.com/pics/konsoleMenu6jrickCONFIGz.1202681077.jpeg |
| 22:05.34 | jrick | tech9iner: click on Shell in the Session list |
| 22:05.38 | tech9iner | konsole configs you asked about |
| 22:05.40 | jrick | then send another screenie |
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| 22:05.49 | Goliath23 | hi |
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| 22:07.07 | tech9iner | jrick: http://picpaste.com/pics/konsoleMenu7jrickCONFIGz.1202681216.jpeg |
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| 22:07.16 | Goliath23 | If I enable desktop effects, resizing gets pretty slow. also moving a window for the first time has a very noticable delay until its rendered with 80% transluency (default setting) |
| 22:07.23 | jrick | tech9iner: ok, that looks right |
| 22:07.36 | jrick | tech9iner: but somehow it's opening "New Root Shell" by default |
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| 22:07.40 | Goliath23 | also the appearing of windows seems slower with effects enabled. |
| 22:07.54 | Goliath23 | I use the newest nvidia driver |
| 22:07.54 | tech9iner | exactly.. so mystery ongoing huh jrick |
| 22:08.10 | Goliath23 | any suggestions? |
| 22:08.20 | jrick | tech9iner: but just to make sure, when you click "New Shell", does it work properly? |
| 22:08.21 | tech9iner | as shared i just discovered this bug this day jrick |
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| 22:09.06 | DobosCake | Where does K menu read its entries from? |
| 22:09.14 | tech9iner | jrick: assuming you meant from the root konsole session menu aye ? |
| 22:09.44 | jrick | yes, open Konsole, and instead of providing the root password, click Session > New Shell |
| 22:10.36 | tech9iner | well in the session i had running where it had default demanded root.. i then 'su user' down to user session.. that session did open a non root konsole jrick .. let me try it exactly as requested.. |
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| 22:12.49 | tech9iner | affirmative jrick .. if i call 'konsole' from alt-f2 dialog.. it opens as if i had called 'kdesu konsole' & demands root pw.. if i drop session menu & call 'new shell' it does indeed open a user session.. |
| 22:13.14 | tech9iner | strange ghosts indeed jrick |
| 22:13.23 | tech9iner | somethings amiss |
| 22:13.23 | jrick | tech9iner: ok, so it is indeed a problem with konsole opening the wrong session |
| 22:13.32 | jrick | tech9iner: i have to go now... but try this... |
| 22:13.47 | tech9iner | this has to be related to updates of opensuse 10.3 somehow jrick |
| 22:14.19 | jrick | close konsole, and with konqueror delete /home/username/.kde/share/config/konsolerc |
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| 22:14.36 | tech9iner | jrick: likewise seems specific to kde bitsNbytes since xterm/alternate terminals are opening as user |
| 22:14.39 | jrick | it sounds like a corrupted config file |
| 22:14.58 | tech9iner | niyice & tx for the ideas & warm hands jrick.. ciao4now.. ;]] |
| 22:15.24 | tech9iner | that wouldnt be the 1st time konqi profiles have caused me probs btw.. |
| 22:15.54 | tech9iner | suse 10.1 & 10.2 had been giving me konqi profile problems too 2+ yrs back.. |
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| 22:26.49 | kompaq | How is 4.0 acting? |
| 22:27.31 | jrick | tech9iner: did it work? |
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| 22:28.04 | tech9iner | jrick: phone.. justAfewSex please.. |
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| 22:34.24 | DobosCake | Does anyone where KMenu's shortcuts/links are stored in fedora core? |
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| 22:39.17 | mcgreg | hi |
| 22:39.31 | mcgreg | is k3b a part of kde , and can I ask question about it here? |
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| 22:43.36 | sayucyof | DobosCake: kmenu's is an applet |
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| 22:47.22 | tech9iner | pip pip whore ray for jrick ;]].. jolly good show guv.. |
| 22:47.24 | sayucyof | DobosCake:Do you want to add the short cut to the menu? |
| 22:47.30 | tech9iner | worked charmingly jrick |
| 22:47.40 | jrick | tech9iner: awesome! :) |
| 22:47.46 | tech9iner | we have our plain clothes konsole once again lad |
| 22:47.59 | jrick | tech9iner: now, did you get krusader installed? |
| 22:48.16 | tech9iner | jrick: lol.. funny ye ask mate.. in proc now |
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| 22:52.00 | dasKreech | mcgreg: kindaish and sure shoot |
| 22:52.05 | dealer | i'm building kde 4.0.1 and i'm not sure |
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| 22:52.57 | dealer | i built kdelibs, kdebase and kdepimlibs and after that, when i open a about kde, i'm getting 4.0.0 version, should i have to build kdenetwork and all that stuff? |
| 22:53.07 | mcgreg | dasKreech: well, using k3b from debian.. wanted to write an iso (it was never a problem before) but now i simply quits with an error: k3b: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libk3b.so.3: undefined symbol: stat64 |
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| 22:54.30 | pinotree | mcgreg: known distro issue, → #debian-kde |
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| 22:55.49 | mcgreg | ok, thx |
| 22:56.03 | mcgreg | cya |
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| 23:26.38 | brauliobo | hello all |
| 23:26.55 | brauliobo | how do I save my session on kde4? |
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| 23:30.24 | dasKreech | 4.1 will require Qt 4.4 ? |
| 23:30.51 | brauliobo | dasKreech: yeah (saw it on dot news) |
| 23:31.18 | dasKreech | hmm Amarok will come out roughly around then? |
| 23:32.50 | brauliobo | dasKreech: guess so |
| 23:33.49 | jrick | tech9iner: don't mean to sound pushy, but did you get it installed? |
| 23:34.50 | tech9iner | fixing another bit now in #suse jrick hehe.. bbiab |
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| 23:54.07 | tech9iner | mk jrick ;]].. im midst of krusader configs mate.. |
| 23:54.29 | jrick | yes, there's a lot of stuff there to configure, it really is your typical kde app |
| 23:54.32 | tech9iner | jrick: selection mode tab of look & feel ... |
| 23:55.00 | tech9iner | jrick: do you choose any of the 'obey kde global' bits lad? |
| 23:55.21 | jrick | tech9iner: i pretty much have the defaults in my config, so no |
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| 23:55.32 | tech9iner | jrick: i.e. 'obey kde's global selection policy' ? |
| 23:55.38 | tech9iner | ahh.. tx then |
| 23:55.51 | v01d | hi, I'm playing with knotify through DCOP, is there a way to change the icon it displays when using the "passive popup"? |
| 23:55.55 | brauliobo | how do I save my session on kde4? |
| 23:56.47 | tech9iner | jrick: how bout automount filesystems ? |
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| 23:57.17 | jrick | tech9iner: if you want you can enable it... kde uses HAL for that, but I perfer to manually mount my devices |
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