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| 00:09.18 | pedepy2 | kde3; is there a way to reduce desktop grid size without changing actual icon size? |
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| 00:14.46 | cloud | i didn't think you could specify a home folder with a . in front |
| 00:14.57 | Qrawl | oh |
| 00:15.12 | Qrawl | idk then |
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| 00:44.35 | Starwatcher | hi all, this is drive me nuts. I can't get the session clock to agree with the system clock as local, the UTC option seems to being used but the rcS files says it's not. help anyone lol |
| 00:45.43 | pinotree | #gentoo |
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| 01:07.50 | neuralwalls | Couple questions. 1. Read about Amarok 2 made better by Qt 4.4; can KDE 4 be built against Qt 4.4 now or will that require extra work? |
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| 01:09.45 | g2g591 | neuralwalls: I don't think KDE 4 can be build against 4.4 YET, (so says the topic in #gentoo-kde) |
| 01:10.02 | Squt | not even trunk? |
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| 01:10.33 | g2g591 | Squt: I'm not sure , I'll try it once Gentoo gets final 4.4 ebuilds |
| 01:11.29 | Squt | I had lyx crashing with 4.4-rc1 installed, so I downgraded again |
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| 01:19.02 | Lazydog | i have a weird problem here with web browsers. I have the ticker going and if I click on it firefox open and downloads the web page to tmp and then displays it. if i change component choser in the control pannel to use firefox it open but then when i try to use konqueror it also opens firefox. what gives? |
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| 01:41.04 | FreshPrince | gn @ all |
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| 02:03.54 | PeterFA | Is there a way to make the mouse click rapidly software side? |
| 02:04.06 | PeterFA | I need to make 100 clicks in 10 seconds. |
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| 02:04.39 | timrs | lol |
| 02:05.01 | PeterFA | I'm serious! I need XP in Facebook Superheroes app. |
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| 02:05.25 | timrs | well i thought there was something.... but i don't remember right now... |
| 02:06.10 | timrs | theres kmousetool i think.. |
| 02:06.15 | PeterFA | hmm |
| 02:06.20 | luislo | does anybody know the name of the KDE systray's process? |
| 02:06.34 | PeterFA | ticker? |
| 02:06.36 | PeterFA | kicker? |
| 02:07.15 | luislo | I think kicker is the whole bar, isn't it? |
| 02:07.22 | PeterFA | Yeah. |
| 02:08.02 | luislo | I mean the applet 'systray' or something |
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| 02:11.57 | PeterFA | Ooh, KDE4 is in the Portage tree. |
| 02:11.58 | PeterFA | Sexy. |
| 02:12.08 | alanic | what |
| 02:12.10 | alanic | really |
| 02:12.15 | alanic | is it testing? |
| 02:12.18 | Squt | has been for a while |
| 02:12.19 | PeterFA | It's masked. |
| 02:12.23 | Squt | it's hardmasked though |
| 02:12.30 | alanic | oh |
| 02:12.35 | Squt | if you want to try out trunk, get the kde overlay |
| 02:12.37 | Squt | layman -a kde |
| 02:12.40 | PeterFA | http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/desktop/kde/kde4.xml |
| 02:12.40 | jrick | wow, i'm stupid |
| 02:12.44 | jrick | *wishes |
| 02:12.48 | luislo | does anybody know the name of the KDE systray's process? |
| 02:12.52 | Squt | contains very well-maintained svn ebuilds |
| 02:12.58 | alanic | Squt: yeah but can't coexist with kde3 can it? |
| 02:12.59 | PeterFA | Squt, no. |
| 02:13.07 | Squt | alanic: it can |
| 02:13.08 | PeterFA | Squt, you have to clear the overlay before you install it. |
| 02:13.13 | PeterFA | It's in the tree. |
| 02:13.15 | Squt | PeterFA: huh? |
| 02:13.22 | Squt | 4.0.1 is in the tree |
| 02:13.25 | PeterFA | Squt, yeah. |
| 02:13.26 | Squt | svn is in the overlay |
| 02:13.29 | alanic | I mean I had to unmerge a couple of core kde packages a month ago with it in my other box |
| 02:13.43 | PeterFA | Squt, I'm not sure I understood you in the first place. |
| 02:13.59 | Squt | alanic: I have 3.5.8, 4.0.1 and svn running on the same box as the same user |
| 02:14.04 | Squt | not a problem at all |
| 02:14.24 | alanic | Squt: do you have kde installed with "emerge kdelibs" etc? |
| 02:14.30 | alanic | I mean 3 |
| 02:15.06 | Squt | alanic: of course |
| 02:15.12 | alanic | nice |
| 02:15.16 | alanic | I'll do a remerge |
| 02:15.30 | Squt | the overlay is very well maintained, the ebuilds rule |
| 02:15.34 | Squt | as do the ones from the tree |
| 02:15.44 | Squt | be sure to read the docs though |
| 02:16.00 | alanic | they are in the overlay website right |
| 02:16.24 | Squt | there is also Documentation/ in the overlay |
| 02:16.30 | alanic | oh cool |
| 02:16.33 | Squt | contains sample entrys for package.keywords |
| 02:16.52 | Squt | also you might want to /join #genkdesvn :) |
| 02:17.30 | alanic | that may come handy :) |
| 02:17.35 | Squt | ok, my daily kde4 svn rebuild is running, I'll go to sleep |
| 02:17.36 | Squt | nn |
| 02:17.40 | alanic | night |
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| 02:18.51 | anditosan | Is there a way to make a crossover theme like aqt-gtk engine but between kde4 and kde3 apps? |
| 02:20.21 | timrs | no |
| 02:21.29 | rohanpm | I suspect you could, but it'd be quite difficult |
| 02:21.38 | pedepy3 | smooth |
| 02:22.27 | anditosan | mmm, I see |
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| 02:22.54 | anditosan | how then is kde going to manage styles for other apps like gnome apps and kde 3? |
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| 02:23.09 | anditosan | so that they look more homogenius? |
| 02:23.51 | rohanpm | anditosan: well, you don't actually need to make something like qt-gtk engine to do that, you can just have the same theme written for gtk, kde3 and kde4 |
| 02:24.09 | rohanpm | and kde4 can easily change the theme settings files for gtk and kde3, like kde3 already does with gtk |
| 02:24.24 | anditosan | aha, is there something like that being done? |
| 02:24.59 | rohanpm | kde3 has "GTK Styles and Fonts" in control center |
| 02:26.40 | anditosan | well, yeah I know that. My question is more about kde 4 and it's integration and backports of the oxygen theme for example |
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| 02:28.28 | anditosan | is there anything like that being done |
| 02:28.29 | anditosan | ? |
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| 02:36.01 | Harik | Hi Guys I have a question for the ssh-professionals :D How can I connect through a gateway-server to another server using fish ? |
| 02:36.37 | waltercool | hey, someone know how mount drives using kde-kioslaves? |
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| 02:41.58 | alanic | Harik: I dun what fish is but you can tunnel using ssh |
| 02:42.03 | alanic | dun=dunno |
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| 02:42.35 | alanic | you=======oter machine you can ssh to=========>some other machine |
| 02:44.34 | Harik | alanic: If you don't know it yet try it in konqueror: fish://SSH-Server ... very neat ! |
| 02:45.30 | alanic | how is this different than sftp:// ? |
| 02:47.10 | Harik | You can use dolphin |
| 02:47.17 | Harik | f.e. |
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| 02:48.42 | bitshuffler | hey guys |
| 02:49.17 | bitshuffler | someone can elighten me if kde4 has something like compiz's scale & expose plugins? |
| 02:50.18 | alanic | is there really a difference on using fish or ssh kioslaves? |
| 02:50.58 | alanic | maybe like if sftp access to a ssh server is not granted fish will go through? |
| 02:51.07 | MinceR | possibly |
| 02:51.11 | bitshuffler | alanic: i don't know a thing of usinng bare kioslaves but "fish://<ip>" works nicely for me |
| 02:51.35 | MinceR | sftp uses an sftp agent on the other side which might or might not be there |
| 02:51.45 | MinceR | fish seems to use a shell and a script it writes if needed |
| 02:51.49 | alanic | ok that makes sense |
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| 02:53.11 | alanic | In that case I wish konqueror would open a ssh window when pressed f4 on a fish:// session |
| 02:54.15 | bitshuffler | so anyone of you guys is into kde4? |
| 02:54.43 | timrs | im using it |
| 02:55.46 | bitshuffler | so do you know if kde4 has anything like compiz scale & expose plugins - reason i'm asking is the strange menu in the upper right corner |
| 02:56.27 | timrs | i don't really know what those would mean in compiz and what they would be called in kde4 |
| 02:56.45 | dasKreech | alanic, Harik: as I understand it sftp:/ is "pure" whereas fish:/ uses a server side script so makes things easier but can be seen as bad |
| 02:57.25 | dasKreech | bitshuffler: The strange menu has nothing to do with composting options |
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| 02:57.45 | dasKreech | As far as i know yes there are scale and expose plugins |
| 02:58.08 | timrs | i thought he was talking about plasma widgets.... |
| 02:58.21 | timrs | im so confused |
| 02:58.56 | dasKreech | :-) |
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| 03:02.34 | bitshuffler | dasKreech: tanks for responding. The reason I'm asking is that atm I'm using Compiz and i configured it to run the scale & expose plugin if i move my mouse in the upper left or right corners. Last but not least this menu might interfer if i want to demaximize a maximized window. How does this work atm? |
| 03:03.22 | timrs | the menu is only on the desktop -- anything can cover up the menu except widgets |
| 03:03.32 | dasKreech | bitshuffler: I think that scale is configured for the left corner at the moment you may want to ask in #plasma how the right corver affects kwin-composite/compiz |
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| 03:08.32 | bitshuffler | timrs: dasKreech thanks a lot for your input! |
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| 03:08.51 | dasKreech | Sure |
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| 03:09.13 | dasKreech | You are going to be using compiz on KDE4? |
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| 03:13.19 | bitshuffler | dasKreech: no, i'm here with compiz & kde 3.5.8 (openSUSE 10.3) |
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| 03:14.47 | bitshuffler | dasKreech: only thing i need / like with compiz is the expose & scale plugin (which is really usefull imho) and i like the "wobbly windows" effect while i move windows |
| 03:15.33 | dansushi | i'm using kde to set up my printer and it's asking me to supply a username and password' for the 'Printing system'. This thing is. when i type in my normal username and password, it just ignores it and asks me to enter it again, like i typed it in wrong. What is wrong here, or what am I supposed to do? |
| 03:15.41 | dasKreech | no wobbly windows in kwin4 |
| 03:16.22 | bitshuffler | dasKreech: you are sure? given, it's not good for anything but i still like the "movement effect" :D |
| 03:17.02 | dasKreech | Yep the "not good for anything" has it very low down on priority |
| 03:17.17 | dasKreech | Someone can implement it but it won't be the core kwin team |
| 03:18.08 | bitshuffler | dasKreech: nvm as your nick says you are involved with "katapult", is that correct? |
| 03:18.26 | dasKreech | Yes |
| 03:19.05 | bitshuffler | dasKreech: if so, please keep up the awesome work - katapult is one of my favourites! Last but not least: thanks a lot for this program! |
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| 03:19.28 | dasKreech | I didn't build it : |
| 03:19.31 | dasKreech | :-) |
| 03:19.34 | dasKreech | I just help out |
| 03:20.12 | bitshuffler | dasKreech: is there a place where i can see the current state of katapult? (imho the only problem is the only "fake transparent" background) |
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| 03:20.49 | dasKreech | It's currently in bzr |
| 03:21.09 | bitshuffler | dasKreech: sorry, what's "bzr" ? |
| 03:21.48 | dasKreech | It's a revsion control system run by Canonical the company that funds ubuntu |
| 03:23.21 | dasKreech | Which reminds me I should get some docs on how to get the latest sources on the Wiki so it's easy to follow |
| 03:23.30 | bitshuffler | dasKreech: anyways: if you intend to release a nice version for kde4 i just want to thank you for all the work you put into it! i really love this launcher! |
| 03:23.54 | bitshuffler | dasKreech: what's the url for katapults wiki? |
| 03:24.22 | dasKreech | It's going through a lot of flux right now but it should use the same krunners as alt+F2 so that should be neat |
| 03:24.27 | dasKreech | http://katapult.kde.org/wiki/Main_Page |
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| 03:26.31 | bitshuffler | dasKreech: sounds great :D - Thanks a lot for all your work you put into this! |
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| 03:39.44 | bitshuffler | dasKreech: do you have some ETA until we could expect / hope for a kde4 version of katapult? |
| 03:43.13 | bitshuffler | dasKreech: just a rough gues like for 4.1 or 4.2 or ... |
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| 03:47.05 | dasKreech | I would be looking at 4.2 |
| 03:47.43 | dasKreech | it would rely on a lot of plasma stuff so it would be safer to thrash out for the release after the first "full" plasma release |
| 03:48.06 | dasKreech | plus as I said we havea lot of flux now so we are thrashing things out |
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| 03:51.32 | Fireclown- | does anyone have a list of the programs that come with KDE are and what they do |
| 03:52.07 | Fireclown- | I don't want to run the onces I don't recognize |
| 03:52.13 | Fireclown- | like Konstipation |
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| 03:52.42 | bitshuffler | dasKreech: no worries - i just love what you hguys are doing & i'm fishing for more info ;). Just let me thank you very mucch for you awesome work! |
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| 04:40.51 | p_masho | can anyone enlighment me on what the "button" on the titlebar does ? http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/3940/whattttjl9.png |
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| 04:41.15 | mark_alec | stick |
| 04:41.22 | mark_alec | makes the window appear on all desktop |
| 04:41.26 | mark_alec | +s |
| 04:41.51 | p_masho | aha.. feel so happy know I know.. ta ;-) |
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| 04:54.43 | dasKreech | There is one at Wild Palms hotel :) |
| 04:54.56 | dasKreech | If they haven't scrubbed the machine of KDE yet |
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| 05:35.07 | sabocat | I'm using Gnome, and all my KDE apps have really small fonts. How can I adjust this? |
| 05:35.27 | Kalidarn | using qtconfig |
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| 05:36.16 | sabocat | word |
| 05:36.17 | sabocat | thanks |
| 05:37.07 | Kalidarn | anyone around with SVN of KDE4? |
| 05:37.14 | Kalidarn | i think i've located a bug. |
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| 05:38.56 | Kalidarn | https://moodle.ait.org fails to load with an error "Could not connect to host moodle.ait.org: SSL negotiation failed." |
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| 05:39.13 | Kalidarn | http://rafb.net/p/75qKFv60.html for the konsole output |
| 05:39.26 | Kalidarn | while https://secure.ampbanking.com/au/Logon works fine, so SSL does work. |
| 05:41.52 | ubuntu | i need help in french please :) |
| 05:42.12 | alanic | google translate |
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| 05:44.49 | zhangkai | my desktop's toolbar disappear,How could do with it ? |
| 05:45.02 | dasKreech | #kubuntu-fr |
| 05:45.11 | ubuntu | I install unbute ultimate 1.7 French in my Konversation is english why carving |
| 05:45.18 | ubuntu | ubuntu* |
| 05:46.08 | dasKreech | ubuntu: #kubuntu-fr might help |
| 05:46.14 | ubuntu | thx |
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| 05:49.03 | Kalidarn | lol that made no sense at all |
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| 06:02.21 | zhangkai | How to find kmenu ? |
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| 06:04.34 | oneforall | just wondering for the front panel mic it used to work and now its dead. Is there something with kmix that might have gotten turned off ? |
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| 06:08.35 | dasKreech | zhangkai: KDE3 or KDE4 ? |
| 06:08.47 | zhangkai | kde4? |
| 06:08.54 | zhangkai | dasKreech |
| 06:09.10 | dasKreech | zhangkai: The original menu? |
| 06:09.21 | dasKreech | it should be in the add widgets box |
| 06:09.32 | zhangkai | dasKreech,I upgrade kubuntu ,and reboot .then found the kmenu dissappear. |
| 06:09.45 | dasKreech | which is opened from the upper right corner |
| 06:09.50 | dasKreech | zhangkai: upgrade to? |
| 06:10.02 | dasKreech | KDE4 or Hardy? |
| 06:10.05 | zhangkai | dasKreech,yes. |
| 06:10.16 | dasKreech | ha ha. Both? |
| 06:10.23 | dasKreech | #kubuntu-kde4 |
| 06:10.25 | zhangkai | kde4 |
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| 06:10.38 | dasKreech | They can help |
| 06:10.44 | zhangkai | thx |
| 06:11.17 | dasKreech | Sure |
| 06:13.27 | oneforall | kde 3.5.8 |
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| 06:15.22 | Kalidarn | zhangkai: kmenu does not exist in KDE4, we now have kickoff |
| 06:16.30 | illogic-al__ | Kalidarn: there is actually an old kmenu-like applet |
| 06:16.39 | Kalidarn | something about the old kicker bar being messy code, so the devs decided to rewrite it |
| 06:16.42 | Kalidarn | ah |
| 06:16.50 | Kalidarn | the new menu is better anyway |
| 06:16.56 | Kalidarn | and i used to hate it :) |
| 06:17.00 | illogic-al__ | no. nt really. |
| 06:17.05 | Kalidarn | but after a while using it grew on me :) |
| 06:17.17 | illogic-al__ | I loathe having to scroll through menus. |
| 06:17.29 | Kalidarn | keke i use the search thing |
| 06:17.40 | Kalidarn | and hit enter, i used to use run a lot anyway |
| 06:17.44 | Kalidarn | i do that in windows too ;P |
| 06:18.05 | illogic-al__ | I don't. never will either. (use search that is) |
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| 06:18.40 | Kalidarn | it's not a crappy slow search it looks at what you type so if you write "kw" it will put all the pograms in the list that have that in them |
| 06:19.01 | illogic-al__ | Run would be a good replacement if it actually found most of the stuff in the menu before I finished typing to whole word out, alas it does not. |
| 06:19.23 | Kalidarn | lol, finding it in a huge kmenu like in 3.5 is a lot harder |
| 06:19.29 | Kalidarn | when you have piles of stuff installed |
| 06:19.40 | Kalidarn | its okay when you don't have much |
| 06:20.18 | illogic-al__ | actually finding it isn't harder because I already know where everything is. |
| 06:20.25 | Kalidarn | :P |
| 06:20.30 | Kalidarn | yeah it takes a while to get used to |
| 06:20.44 | Kalidarn | and i've been using KDE since version 2.0 |
| 06:20.48 | Kalidarn | pretty much |
| 06:20.56 | Kalidarn | swapping to gnome every now and again, or XFCE. |
| 06:21.04 | illogic-al__ | but i'm not comparing run box to the menu. that's like apples to oranges. old menu to kickoff is a disappointment for me however. |
| 06:21.27 | Kalidarn | yeah some existing users do find that, but they will get over it ;) |
| 06:21.46 | dasKreech | Kalidarn: I use katapult. so huge menus arent an issue |
| 06:21.53 | illogic-al__ | Kalidarn: i remember when kbfx (now dubbed raptor) came out first with their fancy menu. some of my menus would fit and i had to scroll in there too. |
| 06:21.56 | Kalidarn | what annoys me more is the people whinging about how the plasma bar isn't as functional as the one in 3.5 |
| 06:22.13 | illogic-al__ | hated it then as well, so much so that i modified the theme to be taller. |
| 06:22.17 | Kalidarn | when they do not realize that a lot of that functionality will be restored in 4.1 |
| 06:22.30 | dasKreech | and more in 4.2 |
| 06:22.33 | illogic-al__ | Kalidarn: yes, but 4.1 isn't now. |
| 06:22.38 | dasKreech | and probably more in 4.3 |
| 06:22.42 | dasKreech | that would be it though |
| 06:22.47 | Kalidarn | 4.0 isn't really ready for the consumer anyway |
| 06:22.49 | illogic-al__ | so i can totally understand. |
| 06:22.54 | Kalidarn | it's still got a fair share of bugs ;) |
| 06:23.00 | Kalidarn | but it's okay for users who are experienced a bit. |
| 06:23.29 | dasKreech | illogic-al: how do you sleep at night? |
| 06:23.30 | Kalidarn | the thing is though atleast now 4.0 is getting some testing by users who can cope, so 4.1 should be nice ;) |
| 06:23.38 | illogic-al | dasKreech: i mostly don't. |
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| 06:24.00 | dasKreech | Kalidarn: Till you start yearning for the stuff in 4.2 |
| 06:24.11 | Kalidarn | :) |
| 06:24.18 | dasKreech | Bastard KDE and always having more kool stuff to do |
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| 06:24.25 | dasKreech | Stop it! |
| 06:24.27 | dasKreech | be mundane! |
| 06:24.29 | Kalidarn | the only reason i persist with it is because the more bugs i find the better KDE gets =) |
| 06:24.32 | zhangkai | what thing to replace it ? |
| 06:24.45 | illogic-al | You should all just repent and join the Church of Jobs. |
| 06:24.52 | The_Dr | I am tryiong to use the kde4 kdm settings, but all the options are greyed out and I cant change anything. How do I use it? |
| 06:24.53 | illogic-al | He is a merciful and kind deity. |
| 06:24.56 | Kalidarn | church of jobs? |
| 06:24.59 | illogic-al | for the right price. |
| 06:25.12 | illogic-al | Kalidarn: apple. |
| 06:25.19 | Kalidarn | lol i knew that :) |
| 06:25.33 | Kalidarn | it i was thinking of something witty to say |
| 06:25.46 | Kalidarn | is it some sort of new fangled religion like scientology? |
| 06:26.01 | dasKreech | No |
| 06:26.03 | dasKreech | It's old |
| 06:26.05 | Kalidarn | ;) |
| 06:26.09 | Kalidarn | true, older than time itself? |
| 06:26.13 | illogic-al | and without the space monsters. |
| 06:26.14 | dasKreech | I has the original apple that Eve bit out of |
| 06:26.28 | dasKreech | illogic-al: I dunno have you seen Woz |
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| 06:26.48 | illogic-al | I have not recently. |
| 06:26.56 | Kalidarn | woz joined a cult |
| 06:26.58 | Kalidarn | didn't he |
| 06:27.01 | Kalidarn | with his wife |
| 06:27.08 | Kalidarn | whos in some witch cult |
| 06:28.27 | Kalidarn | least that's what i read a while ago, i think it was on wikipedi |
| 06:28.29 | Kalidarn | *a |
| 06:29.37 | Kalidarn | About this time, Wozniak became a member of the Freemasons in order to spend more time with his first wife, Alice, who was a member of the equivalent women's group, the Order of the Eastern Star. |
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| 06:29.53 | Kalidarn | i knew i'd read it somewhere |
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| 06:30.09 | maelstrom | wow wikipedia said that ? that is pretty credible |
| 06:30.24 | Kalidarn | it's cited |
| 06:30.40 | Kalidarn | Wozniak, S. G.; Smith, G. (2006), iWoz: From Computer Geek to Cult Icon: How I Invented the Personal Computer, Co-Founded Apple, and Had Fun Doing It. W. W. Norton & Company |
| 06:30.46 | Kalidarn | that's the book he wrote |
| 06:30.52 | Kalidarn | about himself |
| 06:31.57 | illogic-al | yes, it is impossible to make up citations on wikipedia. you should know better maelstrom. |
| 06:32.16 | oneforall | how can I find out if the fron mic is even found etc ? |
| 06:33.24 | Kalidarn | illogic-al: i've read that book ;) |
| 06:33.47 | Kalidarn | correction, asked someone who read it ;) |
| 06:33.50 | Kalidarn | it got boring :P |
| 06:34.05 | Kalidarn | so i didn't exactly read it all :P |
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| 06:34.30 | illogic-al | Kalidarn: you almost impressed me there. |
| 06:34.36 | illogic-al | you were this close || then you told the truth. |
| 06:34.50 | Kalidarn | ;) |
| 06:34.55 | Kalidarn | i like to tell the truth |
| 06:34.55 | illogic-al | :-D |
| 06:35.07 | illogic-al | Kalidarn: me too. it defnitely makes life simpler. |
| 06:38.13 | Kalidarn | illogic-al: you'd have to be a harcore apple zealot to want to read iwoz ;) |
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| 06:39.41 | illogic-al | Kalidarn: I reserve my zealotry for jesus alone. |
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| 06:40.00 | illogic-al | and even then in small doses. people don't seem to take to kindly to it :-) |
| 06:40.06 | Kalidarn | lol i worship myself, as i'm atheist |
| 06:41.18 | Kalidarn | it saves time, so i can work on other things like bug testing KDE :) |
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| 06:46.18 | Airer-girl | hi can anyone please tell me why, when I close konq, the entire kde session ends itself? |
| 06:50.00 | Kalidarn | which version of KDE? |
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| 06:50.37 | Kalidarn | Airer-girl: also, suggest asking in your distro channel |
| 06:51.09 | Airer-girl | 3.5.6 |
| 06:51.15 | Kalidarn | never did that for me :) |
| 06:51.35 | Kalidarn | what distribution? |
| 06:51.37 | Airer-girl | where can I check log? |
| 06:51.38 | Airer-girl | slackware |
| 06:51.47 | Kalidarn | try the xsession.errors log |
| 06:51.50 | Kalidarn | or the Xorg.log |
| 06:51.57 | Kalidarn | doesn't sound like a kde bug |
| 06:52.06 | Airer-girl | what does it sound like? |
| 06:52.12 | Kalidarn | something to do with X crashing |
| 06:52.17 | Airer-girl | X doesn't seem to crash |
| 06:52.21 | Kalidarn | hmm |
| 06:52.21 | Airer-girl | I can still log right back in |
| 06:52.35 | Kalidarn | check the Xorg log |
| 06:52.48 | Kalidarn | that's where i'd start |
| 06:52.55 | Airer-girl | what should I look for? |
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| 06:54.46 | Kalidarn | what occurs in the end of the log |
| 06:54.50 | Kalidarn | are there any errors |
| 06:54.57 | Kalidarn | that's how i'd start |
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| 06:55.27 | Airer-girl | well the log is LONGGGGGG I don't know where to start to be honest |
| 06:56.35 | Kalidarn | Airer-girl: look at the bottom of it |
| 06:56.40 | Kalidarn | ie todays date. |
| 06:56.46 | Kalidarn | does anything stick out? |
| 06:57.02 | Kalidarn | you can also use 'tail' on the logfile if it only just occured |
| 06:57.40 | Airer-girl | doesn't seem to be any problem |
| 06:57.41 | Airer-girl | I used tail |
| 06:59.28 | Kalidarn | try asking in #slackware |
| 06:59.33 | Kalidarn | i havn't used that distro before :) |
| 06:59.42 | Kalidarn | sounds like a misconfiguration |
| 06:59.54 | Kalidarn | rather than a KDE bug |
| 06:59.57 | Airer-girl | I'm asking them |
| 07:00.02 | Airer-girl | and I doubt it's misconfiguration |
| 07:00.12 | Kalidarn | how long have you been using it? |
| 07:00.18 | Airer-girl | I am gonna guarantee its' not since it's off vectorlinux full install and has never caused a problem for me |
| 07:00.20 | Airer-girl | years |
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| 07:00.46 | Kalidarn | maybe a recent update? |
| 07:00.54 | Airer-girl | no update, no actual change |
| 07:01.15 | Kalidarn | try running via startx |
| 07:01.21 | Kalidarn | without running it through KDM |
| 07:01.26 | Kalidarn | and see if u get anything odd occuring |
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| 07:04.26 | Airer-girl | nothing odd |
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| 07:14.17 | The_Dr | Do I have to uninstall kde3 kdm to use kde4 kdm? |
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| 07:29.01 | Kalidarn | how do i make kwrite dynamically word wrap full words |
| 07:30.02 | Kalidarn | in vim i set this by going ":set lbr" |
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| 07:36.19 | Airer-girl | alright ty I'm gonna go to sleep instead |
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| 07:38.42 | Fireclown- | does anyone know of a stand alone app for linux to get urls for videos and DL..like orbit or urlgrabber for windows |
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| 07:44.10 | Kalidarn | Fireclown-: wget? |
| 07:44.37 | Kalidarn | there's a youtube thing if your talking about that |
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| 07:44.52 | Kalidarn | http://www.arrakis.es/~rggi3/youtube-dl/ |
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| 07:45.20 | Kalidarn | damn this is annoying, can't work out how to wrap words with kate |
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| 07:45.54 | maelstrom | thanks to whoever's decision it was to include the guy saying "Yo!" as a sound effect in kde |
| 07:46.11 | Kalidarn | lol |
| 07:46.19 | Kalidarn | that's in 3.5 isn't it? |
| 07:46.26 | maelstrom | yes |
| 07:46.44 | maelstrom | honestly it is useful to me |
| 07:46.48 | maelstrom | i hope it is not gone in kde 4 |
| 07:47.13 | Kalidarn | lol i think it is |
| 07:47.32 | Kalidarn | i can't think of any useful purpose you'd want that sound |
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| 07:47.38 | maelstrom | i use it as an alert in multiplayer games to signal to me that it is my turn |
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| 07:53.15 | Kalidarn | bah |
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| 07:53.27 | Kalidarn | i've now been playing with kate for an hour |
| 07:53.35 | Kalidarn | and i still can't work out how to wrap at word |
| 07:53.42 | Kalidarn | rather than in the middle of words |
| 07:54.39 | Filled-Void | Hi all I just installed KDE on my system Ubuntu 7.10 and would like to use it . However Im ashamed to say that I dont know how I should activate it within gnome :x . ALso can I keep all KDE programs to be used in the KDE environment only and not display them in the gnome menu . Or should I use a menu editor or somethign of that sort? |
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| 07:58.29 | sparr_ | Filled-Void: when you log into the machine there should be a dropdown menu of sessions to pick from, there will be a kde option |
| 07:58.49 | sparr_ | as to the menu, i dont know if you can keep the kde items off the gnome menu, or vice versa |
| 07:58.58 | Filled-Void | sparr_, ty I will check that now :) |
| 07:59.03 | thiago_home | there isn't a way except by doing it manually |
| 07:59.36 | Filled-Void | thiago_home, ty I just wanted to confirm before tryign that |
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| 08:03.31 | The_Dr | Can anyone help me, I cannot edit any of the settings for kde4 kdm in system settings!!! |
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| 08:19.01 | jazka | anyone using kiten here? does the kde3 version crash on kde4 for you? |
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| 08:31.02 | nadio | Why does my KDE, start all applications, that was up last before boot ? |
| 08:31.32 | thiago | that's called session management |
| 08:31.34 | thiago | it's intentional |
| 08:32.00 | nadio | Where do I cancel it ? |
| 08:32.11 | nadio | and just make it start, specific programs by default. |
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| 08:44.22 | wers | in what directory are kde icons located? :) |
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| 08:46.44 | lysdexic | wers, /usr/kde/3.5/share/icons |
| 08:47.40 | wers | lysdexic, there's no such directory |
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| 08:48.11 | lysdexic | there is in Gentoo :p |
| 08:48.18 | lysdexic | what you using? |
| 08:48.32 | wers | lysdexic, ubuntu. hehe |
| 08:49.05 | wers | there's no /usr/kde |
| 08:50.24 | lysdexic | ok, usr/share/icins? |
| 08:50.30 | lysdexic | icons* |
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| 08:52.45 | lysdexic | wers, are they there? (in /usr/share/icons)? |
| 08:53.28 | wers | lysdexic, thanks!! |
| 08:53.57 | lysdexic | wers, lol, don't thank me, I know f-all about Ubuntu... thank google :p |
| 08:54.41 | wers | haha. it;s my friend! :D |
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| 08:55.46 | sooli | bon de bon matin ... debug PHP .. beurk |
| 08:55.52 | sooli | oups ! sorry |
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| 09:14.15 | tirramissu | Hi! |
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| 09:14.53 | tirramissu | Any ideas why MiscFixed font in some KDE 4.0.1 apps doesn't show properly? |
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| 09:18.33 | funcrush | I added Firefox in my pannel but it doesn't work. How can I run firefox in pannel? |
| 09:18.44 | funcrush | I'm on kde 4 |
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| 09:38.33 | VagaStorm | thats kind of hard on my cpu :p |
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| 09:43.32 | ultradj83 | Hi guys! I have a problem with kopete's contact list. The window has no decorations, is maximized and I can't move or unmaximize it. Also seems to be always on top, in fact, when I open a conversation with a contact, I have to close the contact list to be able to write in that chat window. Reinstalling hasn't solved the problem. Could you explain me how to save the contact list (i renamed all contacts to order them), delete all |
| 09:43.32 | ultradj83 | preferences and reinstall it? |
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| 10:01.24 | RakataPrime]] | How do I just install kde 4.0.1. without all of it's programs (so as not to have two of everything) |
| 10:03.01 | luislo | Does anybody know where are the system sounds in KDE4? |
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| 10:07.25 | luislo | Does anybody know where are the system sounds of KDE4? I kinda like the login sound and I want to use it as my KDE3 login... |
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| 10:15.54 | Yaz | hey im new to linux i changed from gnome to kde i dont even know how to shutdown lmao |
| 10:16.01 | Yaz | i just started using it today |
| 10:17.33 | Yaz | no one talks on this thing? |
| 10:17.49 | ponto | Yaz: which kde? |
| 10:18.00 | Yaz | how do i found out? |
| 10:18.06 | Yaz | u mean which linux distro? |
| 10:18.24 | ponto | start a kde application then go help -> about kde |
| 10:18.34 | Yaz | k |
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| 10:19.53 | Yaz | Release 3.5.8-19.fc8 |
| 10:20.14 | ponto | and you want to shut the computer down? |
| 10:20.22 | Yaz | pretty much lmao |
| 10:20.25 | Yaz | how gay does this sound |
| 10:20.28 | Yaz | im pro at windows |
| 10:20.39 | Yaz | but cbf for windows |
| 10:21.15 | ponto | Then you have normally three options: 1. There is an shutdown option in the start menu. 2. Right click on the desktop. 3. There might be a lock screen and shutdown button next to the systray. |
| 10:21.46 | ponto | Or just Ctrl + Alt + Del |
| 10:22.02 | Yaz | theres no shutdown option at all |
| 10:22.13 | Yaz | ctrl alt del just takes me to the log on screen |
| 10:22.17 | Yaz | in start menu theres.. |
| 10:22.21 | Thundercloud | Log Out |
| 10:22.23 | Yaz | switch user |
| 10:22.24 | Thundercloud | Has the shutdown option |
| 10:22.24 | Yaz | log session |
| 10:22.25 | Yaz | and log out |
| 10:22.30 | Yaz | log out has no shutdown option |
| 10:22.37 | ponto | which distribution? |
| 10:22.40 | Thundercloud | You're not running through KDM are you? |
| 10:22.42 | Yaz | fedora 8 |
| 10:23.00 | ponto | maybe you are not allowed to shutdown the system |
| 10:23.12 | Yaz | but i just installed the system i know the root password |
| 10:23.22 | plovs | anybody been able to use bluetooth on kde4? i used gnome's bluetooth-applet and konqueror3, but that is all kind of a workaround :-) |
| 10:24.20 | ponto | Yaz: On the log on screen there should be a way to shut the computer down. |
| 10:24.42 | ponto | Yaz: But for further help I would ask in a fedora channel. They have obviously crippled KDE down. |
| 10:24.51 | Yaz | ok |
| 10:24.53 | Yaz | thanks anyways |
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| 10:47.18 | drcode | hi all |
| 10:47.36 | drcode | is there option to build kde has kiosk server with openldap + vnc? |
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| 10:51.03 | p_masho | help!!! for dome reason I rebooted and the >>> (WW) The directory "/usr/share/X11/fonts/**** firectory is missing ???? |
| 10:51.20 | p_masho | seems like the x11 font directory has disappeared... and ideas how to restore it ? |
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| 10:51.46 | maki | is there a working irc client for kde4/qt4 ? |
| 10:51.57 | Squt | maki: define "working" |
| 10:51.59 | Squt | :) |
| 10:52.27 | Squt | we are going to release one in a week, but it's still in an early state... which does not keep me from using it :) |
| 10:52.29 | maki | able to connect |
| 10:52.39 | Squt | it's Qt4 only though |
| 10:52.52 | maki | konversation ? |
| 10:53.23 | Squt | nah, that's not ported yet |
| 10:53.31 | pinotree | p_masho: #xorg please |
| 10:53.49 | Squt | Quassel IRC, but as I said, it's not too mature yet |
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| 10:55.04 | drcode | I understand kde can run in kiosk mode |
| 10:55.37 | drcode | i want to let users autnticate in ldap server and then log into kde, I want them to use vnc , any idea? |
| 10:55.41 | mosno | how can i "force" ktorrent to start using the listening ports so my torrents speed up? ie. i just enabled port forwarding from my router to this machine |
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| 10:55.56 | mosno | i can see ktorrent listening but there's no incoming connections happening |
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| 10:56.19 | pinotree | drcode: not something easy to reply: what i can suggest you is taking a look at the sysadmin/kiosk documentation on techbase.kde.org |
| 10:56.25 | aseigo | mosno: go to the config, plugins, upnp, click the forward ports butotn |
| 10:56.29 | pinotree | dcorbin_work: http://techbase.kde.org/index.php?title=KDE_System_Administration |
| 10:56.37 | pinotree | err, drcode http://techbase.kde.org/index.php?title=KDE_System_Administration |
| 10:56.44 | drcode | I want to replace my MS terminal server with linux |
| 10:56.45 | drcode | k |
| 10:56.49 | drcode | thanx pinotree |
| 10:57.41 | drcode | kiosk can be use with ldap server? |
| 10:59.40 | aseigo | drcode: mandriva has patches that do that, yes, and we've got the foundation for it to do it properly in kde 4.0, but probably not before 4.1 or even 4.2 for that feature in stock kde... it's coming though =) |
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| 10:59.49 | aseigo | mandriva patches => kde3 |
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| 11:00.27 | drcode | k |
| 11:00.41 | drcode | aseigo: U can send me link ? |
| 11:01.04 | mosno | aseigo: actually i forgot the FORWARD rules |
| 11:01.22 | mosno | aseigo: its working now, didn't need to touch upnp. i really suck tonight |
| 11:01.54 | aseigo | mosno: =) |
| 11:02.01 | aseigo | drcode: don't have one off hand. try google |
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| 11:04.52 | drcode | k |
| 11:04.54 | drcode | thnx |
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| 11:15.23 | skyphyr | ok - I'm about to win the lamest kde4 question ever - how do you empty the trash? |
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| 11:15.57 | skyphyr | ahhh you right click in the file list, not on the icons anywhere |
| 11:16.08 | skyphyr | well an empty spot in there |
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| 11:53.52 | zhangkai | why my kickoff disappear ? |
| 11:54.53 | _kde_pepo | zhangkai, plasma bug :) |
| 11:55.30 | zhangkai | how to solve it ? |
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| 11:58.45 | hogejo | Hello guys! I have a custom color theme for highlighting in KATE. how can I quickly pass it to KWrite? (Did not find the Kwrite highlighting config file, but found kate's) |
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| 12:08.15 | hogejo | ok than... anyone knows how to make Kate remember passwords? |
| 12:09.12 | Atoms | kate does not remember, but kwallet is |
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| 12:11.47 | hogejo | Atoms: how to make kwallet work? |
| 12:12.00 | hogejo | I think I do not have it... |
| 12:12.07 | Atoms | just start it :) |
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| 12:12.46 | hogejo | like "kwallet" ? |
| 12:12.53 | hogejo | unknown command |
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| 12:15.33 | rapid | is kde-window-decorator still in use or is this replaced by something else? |
| 12:17.06 | pinotree | rapid: #compiz-fusion please |
| 12:18.46 | pinotree | yo |
| 12:19.06 | tech9iner | so mates.. when konqi is transferring images off my sd card & then loses the automount mid transfer.. |
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| 12:19.27 | pinotree | "automount mid transfer"? |
| 12:19.40 | tech9iner | wtf perchance could i look & see if some /tmp folder may have the mission critical images i needed off said sd / camera card that i just lost please? |
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| 12:20.17 | tech9iner | pinotree: when one inserts an sd memory card into my laptops built in reader.. it automounts |
| 12:20.28 | pinotree | suse stuff :) |
| 12:20.34 | tech9iner | i chose a folder from it to transfer.. |
| 12:20.44 | pinotree | kde does mount nothing on its own, at most it asks you waht to do |
| 12:20.47 | tech9iner | midst of transfer it lost connection.. |
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| 12:22.04 | tech9iner | normally i have 2 paths .. re-insert sd card & keep starting transfer till all files moved to hddrv.. or drop sd card into me usb pocket reader.. which 10.3 seems capable of reading / maintaining access to.. |
| 12:22.17 | tech9iner | but either way sofar i have never actually lost any data.. |
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| 12:23.01 | tech9iner | this morn.. when it lost its connection.. apparently it didnt maintain data as well as has before.. i lost mission critical images i need for a quote.. |
| 12:23.46 | tech9iner | now pinotree .. question is what folder / directory would konqi use mid transfer to tmp store images & would thus offer me my slim but best chance of finding said images please? |
| 12:23.59 | jazka | dunno if this is a kde or amsn problem, if I have desktop effects enabled and choose "change display picture" on amsn, X crashes, and the funny things is, on the kernel 2.6.23 it works, now I'm on 2.6.24 |
| 12:24.01 | pinotree | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:24.14 | tech9iner | tx pinotree.. mucho tx lad.. |
| 12:24.23 | pinotree | jazka: #amsn or #xorg please, nothing kde related |
| 12:25.23 | jazka | k |
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| 12:34.04 | _mika | hi guys, is there anyone who have any idea why ktorrent gets just some connections when there are thousands? (i've set all the limits to 0, = no limits) eg http://img107.imageshack.us/img107/4728/73262429xa0.png :( |
| 12:36.51 | apriori | _mika: port forwarding missing, I assume... are you behind a router? |
| 12:37.10 | _mika | nat from the provider |
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| 13:56.31 | BillieGDJoe | Hi folks |
| 13:56.48 | BillieGDJoe | How I change the panel size in kde 4 ?? |
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| 14:01.32 | amroth | Hi.. I'm coding a DBUS interface to Dragon Player... does anybody know why, when I query it for metadata, I only get results like "a{sv}" in qdbusviewer? |
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| 14:06.39 | wilsby | What tools can I use under kde 3.5.9 to monitor system/cpu temps and other information |
| 14:06.47 | wilsby | I am overclocking my system for the first time |
| 14:07.00 | wilsby | and want to monitor cpu temp mainly |
| 14:07.14 | Sput | as logn as it's not the last time... |
| 14:07.28 | Sput | ksysguard could be a start |
| 14:07.36 | wilsby | I have that |
| 14:07.45 | wilsby | but I can't find temparature in there |
| 14:08.01 | Sput | did you configure it in your kernel? |
| 14:08.12 | wilsby | ah, not sure. lemme check |
| 14:08.20 | Sput | it can only display what it finds in /proc/acpi |
| 14:09.36 | wilsby | I have the acpi thermal option enabled |
| 14:10.06 | Sput | anything in /proc/acpi/thermal_zone? |
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| 14:24.24 | Mirra | Anyone can tell me what "Scrape" in KTorrent means? |
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| 14:31.30 | Alethes | it's the painful process of skin removal |
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| 14:31.48 | Alethes | actually, it's just getting the info from the tracker about peers |
| 14:31.51 | shibz | http://www.azureuswiki.com/index.php/Scrape |
| 14:33.18 | appelza | lmao |
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| 14:36.02 | wilsby | no nothing in thermal_zone |
| 14:36.06 | wilsby | but the folder exists |
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| 14:42.24 | Mirra | Is there a special place where to report KDE4 related bugs? |
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| 14:42.40 | pinotree | bugs.kde.org, as usual |
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| 15:22.40 | FiNeX | hi! |
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| 15:32.40 | BioHazardous | I've got icons on my desktop for my cifs mounts... how do I get rid of them without unmounting? |
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| 15:38.25 | Alethes | right-click on the desktop, Configure Desktop, Behavior, Device Icons, uncheck Mounted Samba Share |
| 15:38.52 | BioHazardous | ahh, perfect thanks |
| 15:39.06 | BioHazardous | kde should implement a "Do Not Show Desktop Icons" option :) |
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| 15:39.44 | Alethes | it's already there |
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| 15:40.01 | Alethes | first option under General for the Behavior settings |
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| 15:40.28 | BioHazardous | okay... |
| 15:40.35 | BioHazardous | i'll uh, pay more attention next time lol |
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| 15:40.47 | BioHazardous | thanks Alethes |
| 15:40.54 | Alethes | np |
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| 15:42.24 | dasKreech | More stuff is here but it takes longer to find :) |
| 15:42.52 | Alethes | yeah, I think KDE's biggest weakness is the complexity of the configuration |
| 15:43.03 | Alethes | but that complexity is just a side effect of flexibility |
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| 15:43.18 | Alethes | I haven't used it yet, but I understand that's getting better in KDE4 |
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| 15:44.30 | dasKreech | I don't think it's complex just large |
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| 15:46.55 | gbacon | kde4 on kubuntu: my panel crashed; I ran kicker as the FAQ says, but it's a different panel. how do I get the default panel back? |
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| 15:51.15 | n3x^ | i know this is a silly question, but i cant seem to get a desktop shortcut to work on KDE4 |
| 15:51.29 | n3x^ | i link to the application and it does work |
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| 15:51.34 | AbsintheSyringe | can anyone help me out, when I try to install kde4 it fails on dependencies, I'm on fluxbox now |
| 15:51.36 | n3x^ | while running the application through konsole works fine |
| 15:51.39 | n3x^ | any ideas? |
| 15:51.43 | AbsintheSyringe | debian testing, using kde4 from experimental resp |
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| 15:53.50 | utopia_ | anybody familar with ktorrent? for some reason no port is open for uploads/seeding |
| 15:54.03 | utopia_ | and i cant find anything about it in configure ktorrent |
| 15:56.56 | fysa | that's done on your firewall. |
| 15:57.06 | fysa | you need to forward a specific port for bittorrent to the machine running the client |
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| 15:57.24 | utopia_ | i haven't a firewall setup |
| 15:57.33 | utopia_ | and im not behind a router |
| 15:58.23 | fysa | maybe your ISP is blocking that port |
| 15:58.42 | utopia_ | no cause it's just not open when i nmap my box |
| 15:58.48 | fysa | http://ktorrent.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=11014&sid=21aa38439453886ee0414273d627bd1f |
| 15:58.51 | utopia_ | and i cant see how to change it from ktorrent |
| 15:58.53 | utopia_ | thanks |
| 15:59.20 | fysa | should find what you need on that forum somewhere |
| 16:00.38 | gbacon | kde4/hardy: how do I get my K button back? |
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| 16:11.56 | gbacon | kde4 on kubuntu hardy: how do I get my K button back after a crash? (I deleted the wallpaper image and kaboom.) |
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| 16:21.32 | gkiagia | gbacon: just the k button is missing? |
| 16:21.56 | kaminix | Are vocabulary lists properitary when taken from a book or are they considered to be "just a list of words"? |
| 16:22.01 | gbacon | gkiagia: no, the whole bottom dock is gone (systray, clock, taskbar, etc.) |
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| 16:22.29 | gkiagia | ah, see the emergency FAQ in the chanel's topic |
| 16:23.14 | gbacon | gkiagia: right, I ran kicker as the FAQ says, but that's a different panel |
| 16:23.24 | gkiagia | no |
| 16:23.33 | gkiagia | wait |
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| 16:24.06 | gkiagia | gbacon: http://software-libre.rudd-o.com/KDE_4.0.0_emergency_FAQ |
| 16:24.38 | whirm | hi all |
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| 16:29.47 | gbacon | gkiagia: thanks for the pointer. I restarted plasma, but there's still no K menu, taskbar, systray, clock, etc. |
| 16:30.21 | gkiagia | gbacon: did you remove the configuration file as the faq says? |
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| 16:30.50 | gbacon | gkiagia: pasted from my shell: kquitapp plasma; rm ~/.kde4/share/config/plasma-appletsrc ; plasma |
| 16:31.10 | gkiagia | hm |
| 16:31.54 | gkiagia | as the faq says, try to give each one of these commands separately and wait a minute beetween |
| 16:32.10 | gkiagia | commands are separated by semicolon here |
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| 16:33.31 | gbacon | gkiagia: I added sleep 10 calls between each, and that got it |
| 16:33.37 | gbacon | gkiagia: thanks for your help |
| 16:33.55 | gkiagia | good |
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| 16:43.18 | Oleg_ | kde 4.0.1 is in portage already? |
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| 16:43.38 | texnofobix_ | Oleg_: yep |
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| 16:47.30 | pinotree | Oleg_: #gentoo-kde please.. |
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| 16:47.31 | Oleg_ | gentoo's packages are never different from official source packages on kde.org or other websites? |
| 16:48.13 | pinotree | (#gentoo-kde) |
| 16:48.21 | Oleg_ | thanks |
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| 16:48.42 | christoph_s | hi all |
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| 16:50.06 | Oleg_ | oops |
| 16:50.09 | christoph_s | something weird is happening here: I can't start kontact anymore. xsession.errors tells me this: http://pastebin.ca/901386 |
| 16:50.15 | christoph_s | any ideas? |
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| 16:50.34 | Oleg_ | I just noticed this channel is #kde. I actually wanted to be in #gentoo |
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| 17:46.20 | kaminix | Hmm... just ran a few KDE4 apps in KDE3. What's wrong? Everything just looks bloated and slower than before? I had really high hopes for KDE4 and all :( |
| 17:47.17 | kaminix | Take Kwin for example. All the edges were much fater than in the KDE3 version, it didn't keep different colours for active vs inactive windows and moving windows was a lot slower than in KDE 3. |
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| 17:47.36 | eifzon | hello |
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| 17:48.58 | eifzon | If I start XMMS I get a BUTUGGLY icon down there the other apps are, with a uggly headphone on it and the XMMS text next to it, can I change that icon |
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| 18:07.49 | Pepino-Orugo | hi |
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| 18:08.16 | Pepino-Orugo | if i just want to make a minimal installation of KDE, those are just 3 files right? |
| 18:09.14 | pinotree | ? |
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| 18:13.11 | Heiki | 3 files sounds very very very minimal (: |
| 18:14.03 | Heiki | 3 packages, depending on your Linux distribution, might be correct |
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| 18:15.35 | Pepino-Orugo | i'm using FBSD |
| 18:15.36 | JordanC | Happy Darwin day! |
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| 18:16.11 | Pepino-Orugo | and dont want anything but firefox-xchat-xmms-openoffice and some utils |
| 18:18.09 | Pepino-Orugo | that's why i dont want a complete KDE installation |
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| 18:18.22 | pinotree | #kde-freebsd |
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| 18:21.55 | Alethes | Pepino-Orugo: what apps did you want from kde¿ |
| 18:21.56 | Alethes | ? |
| 18:21.57 | Alethes | heh |
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| 18:22.08 | Alethes | how the hell do I do that ¿ anyway :) |
| 18:23.20 | Pepino-Orugo | Alethes: just the minimal to run |
| 18:23.30 | Alethes | to run what, though? |
| 18:23.33 | Pepino-Orugo | just the desktop |
| 18:23.48 | Pepino-Orugo | firefox-xmms-chat-openoffice |
| 18:24.11 | Alethes | you don't need kde at all for any of those |
| 18:24.27 | Pepino-Orugo | but i want KDE as a DEktop |
| 18:24.32 | Alethes | although chat is pretty ambiguous |
| 18:24.36 | Alethes | ok |
| 18:24.43 | Alethes | so kdesktop and kwin, I assume? |
| 18:24.48 | Alethes | maybe konq for a file manager? |
| 18:24.55 | Pepino-Orugo | sure |
| 18:25.07 | pinotree | Pepino-Orugo: #kde-freebsd, they should tell you which "packages" you have to install for that |
| 18:25.17 | Pepino-Orugo | i dont want games |
| 18:25.23 | Pepino-Orugo | koffice |
| 18:25.29 | pinotree | you |
| 18:25.33 | pinotree | are |
| 18:25.35 | pinotree | not |
| 18:25.41 | pinotree | obliged |
| 18:25.43 | pinotree | to |
| 18:25.47 | pinotree | install |
| 18:25.49 | pinotree | them |
| 18:25.51 | pinotree | all |
| 18:25.53 | Alethes | PhilRod is a freebsd guy, but I don't know if he's around |
| 18:25.55 | pinotree | (see how's distrurbing writing 1-2 words per line?) |
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| 18:27.50 | Alethes | Pepino-Orugo: I haven't used freebsd consistently in quite a while, but it should be pretty easy to find out which packages contain kdesktop, kwin and konqueror |
| 18:28.02 | Alethes | pkg- something or other :D |
| 18:28.33 | Pepino-Orugo | yes, let me try if just putting those 3 packages are enough |
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| 18:29.43 | Alethes | I think it's kdebase3 |
| 18:29.54 | Alethes | at least for kdesktop and kwin |
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| 18:55.14 | maki | hi |
| 18:55.29 | maki | is there an dock plasmoid ? |
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| 18:57.58 | benomatic | anybody have any tips for debugging failed kde SMTP mail sends? tcpdump shows no attempt to connect to my smtp server at all, and i haven't found any logs or anything indicating what might be going on |
| 18:58.37 | benomatic | s/kde SMTP mail/kmail SMTP/ |
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| 19:11.14 | vandenoever | is there a way to edit the kickoff menu |
| 19:11.34 | logixoul | you can just rightclick items in the Favorites tab |
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| 19:12.39 | vandenoever | logixoul: i want to add an item |
| 19:13.06 | logixoul | vandenoever: well, to add an item to Favorites, rightclick it and select "add to favorites" |
| 19:13.09 | logixoul | or drag and drop |
| 19:13.24 | vandenoever | logixoul: i want to create a link to an app which is not in the menu yet |
| 19:13.28 | vandenoever | not in any menu |
| 19:13.34 | logixoul | hm, then maybe kmenuedit |
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| 19:15.09 | vandenoever | logixoul: yup, works,except that kmenuedit is too large for my screen (1200x800) |
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| 19:15.28 | logixoul | aha ;) |
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| 19:18.36 | lontra | how i can delete my current profile of konqueror and restore it to the default profile? i'm on kde4 and konqueror is all messed up all of a sudden |
| 19:18.52 | logixoul | lontra: delete ~/.kde4/share/apps/konqueror/ I guess |
| 19:19.05 | logixoul | but that's gonna remove the bookmarks as well |
| 19:19.07 | logixoul | and stuff |
| 19:19.16 | lontra | that's fine |
| 19:19.51 | lontra | logixoul: thanks |
| 19:19.54 | logixoul | np |
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| 19:20.23 | logixoul | utopia_: http://sackheads.org/~bnaylor/spew/away_msgs.html |
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| 19:22.24 | lontra | hmm ... that didn't fix it ... my problem is that all of a sudden my main toolbar isn't showing up |
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| 19:22.43 | logixoul | weird |
| 19:22.46 | DarkGhost | was up fedora i am here :):)):) |
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| 19:23.57 | lontra | logixoul: yeah it makes it difficult to navigate :D |
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| 19:57.48 | luislo | Hi all. Does anybody use affinity? I have a problem starting it. I just installed, but when I click on the icon it starts and it's immediately halted |
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| 20:00.26 | luislo | Hi all. Does anybody use affinity? I have a problem starting it. I just installed, but when I click on the icon it starts and it's immediately halted |
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| 20:16.25 | chester_martins | hi everybody...i really like KDE, but exists something that i dislike. KDE have fonts, icons, window decorations too large. gnome is more clean (for example), exists some package of themes or something like it that i can use to change this "problem"? |
| 20:16.40 | chester_martins | i don't know if i was clear :p and sorry my bad english |
| 20:17.48 | pinotree | chester_martins: luckly, it's configurable... |
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| 20:18.42 | Rasi | hmm whats up with this "cannot find this or that kde3 application" message when i close any kde3 app? |
| 20:19.16 | chester_martins | pinotree...yes...i know |
| 20:19.35 | chester_martins | kde-look.org maybe help me :p |
| 20:19.39 | chester_martins | but just one thing |
| 20:19.45 | pinotree | Rasi: well, if it's "this or that" we cannot help you |
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| 20:19.51 | chester_martins | how can i install window decoration? it's not too easy isn't? |
| 20:19.58 | Rasi | pinotree: thats because it happens with every non-kde4 app |
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| 20:36.35 | fengshaun | is kdevelop4 ( if there is any yet ) barely usable? |
| 20:36.44 | pinotree | fengshaun: #kdevelop |
| 20:36.53 | fengshaun | ok |
| 20:36.56 | fengshaun | thanks |
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| 20:38.54 | chester_martins | it's true that kde4 is more lighter than kde3? |
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| 20:39.39 | SSJ | chester_martins: http://software-libre.rudd-o.com/KDE_4.0.0_emergency_FAQ#Is_KDE4_faster_or_slower_than_KDE3.3F |
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| 20:40.11 | chester_martins | thank you |
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| 20:40.37 | SSJ | np :) |
| 20:41.13 | chester_martins | thats was i think... |
| 20:41.19 | chester_martins | isn't really lighter |
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| 20:41.28 | chester_martins | :p |
| 20:41.40 | chester_martins | can anybody "run" youtube on konqueror?? |
| 20:41.55 | chester_martins | sorry about all the questions, but i have some doubts |
| 20:42.04 | m-lund | chester_martins: Kubuntu? |
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| 20:42.48 | fengshaun | chester_martins: recently I can |
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| 20:43.08 | Nikolay_ | hi all |
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| 20:44.00 | chester_martins | fengshaun...no...openSUSE |
| 20:44.08 | chester_martins | i use adobe flash and gnash |
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| 20:45.54 | chester_martins | and none works |
| 20:45.54 | chester_martins | :s |
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| 20:46.40 | m-lund | chester_martins: I had the same problem under Kubuntu. Upgraded to KDE4 though it wasn't my plan. |
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| 20:47.01 | chester_martins | not bad...but i want with kde3 :p |
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| 20:59.09 | ctx144k | hello all |
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| 21:00.17 | ctx144k | iam using kde3.5.8. anyone knows how to download emails from imap-accounts completly in kmail? i wanna read emails too, if my connection to network breaks |
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| 21:03.39 | blake__ | why would anyone use KDE? KDE looks like shit... |
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| 21:05.38 | chester_martins | blake__ why you say that?? |
| 21:05.55 | Heiki | blake__’s shit must look funny |
| 21:05.57 | chester_martins | you don't know what you talking about |
| 21:06.07 | ctx144k | cause he want flameing |
| 21:06.08 | chester_martins | KDE is powerfull! |
| 21:06.20 | blake__ | i just don't see why anyone would use it. it's bloated, and I think xfce and fluxbox are attractive in there simplicity |
| 21:07.01 | stdin | so go use it then, and stop bothering those that like KDE |
| 21:07.24 | ctx144k | blake__, cause we want intuitive and easy to use software. cause we want an integrated desktop and no single-applications |
| 21:07.47 | blake__ | what do you mean integrated? |
| 21:07.55 | chester_martins | ctx144k you are totally right! |
| 21:08.12 | blake__ | i quite enjoy using firefox over konqueror, pidgin over w/e your K IM client is |
| 21:08.16 | blake__ | kopete |
| 21:08.38 | ctx144k | blake__, i want that kmail / chat-program and co can get contact-informations from ONE adressbook |
| 21:08.55 | blake__ | i'm not trying to be a troll, it just seems KDE and the Linux philosophy contradict each other |
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| 21:09.32 | chester_martins | Linux isn't just a philosophy...it's an Operative System |
| 21:09.34 | stdin | so why are you in #kde ? |
| 21:09.34 | chester_martins | :p |
| 21:09.59 | ctx144k | i want an easy-to-use system where i can set my desktop-personality without writing manually in conf-files |
| 21:10.20 | stdin | you don't like it, presumably don't use it and you don't want support for it, so /part already |
| 21:10.23 | fyanardi | blake__, integrations, for example if I use firefox after finishing downloading a PDF (or jpeg or anything else), I have to save it first, then open another application (say evince) dan open the PDF from there |
| 21:10.48 | ctx144k | cause... i need my pc dior dooing my work, and i havent intrests in writing conf-files, or reading manuals |
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| 21:11.02 | ctx144k | i know, many people cant understand it |
| 21:11.04 | fyanardi | with konqueror + kpdf I just klik middle mouse and in few seconds your pdf is ready on another tab |
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| 21:30.31 | mxttie | how do i configure konqueror to use kwallet? i don't find the option in the settings.. |
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| 21:53.06 | karthikp__ | I have a nice idea for a kwin effect. It's similar to the dimming of inactive windows... |
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| 21:53.18 | karthikp__ | It would be nice if the colors of the inactive windows turn to gray. |
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| 21:53.39 | karthikp__ | So, the active window is colorful, but the inactive ones are b&w. |
| 21:53.49 | karthikp__ | It'll be subtle and look nice. |
| 21:53.54 | karthikp__ | Any comments? |
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| 21:54.49 | karthikp__ | Oh my. Anyone home? :) |
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| 21:55.12 | ads | morning |
| 21:55.32 | karthikp__ | Morning to you, stranger. |
| 21:55.39 | ads | I have a question about the tray and the icon size: how can i enforce a specific icon size for a program or for all programs? |
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| 21:56.33 | karthikp__ | I can haz tray resize already? I thought it was coming out in 4.1. |
| 21:56.47 | ads | ? |
| 21:56.56 | Prof_Frink | karthikp__: 4.0.1 is not 4.1.0 |
| 21:57.22 | ads | I have 2 lines with icons in my tray. (almost) every time i start pidgin, it comes with a big icon and so in consequence all icons appear bigger. |
| 21:57.23 | jazka | karthikp__: it's possible on svn trunk |
| 21:57.36 | ads | http://andreas.scherbaum.la/pidgin_ok.jpg http://andreas.scherbaum.la/pidgin_nok.jpg |
| 21:57.41 | karthikp__ | Ah. Thanks for clearing that up. :) |
| 21:57.56 | ads | In 1 or 50 starts pidgin is using a small icon and everything is ok. |
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| 21:58.18 | ads | But can't find out, what is enforcing the other icon size. |
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| 21:59.23 | cvw | Is there any way to enable some type of global shortcuts for KMail? It doesn't even have an option in the menu system for editing. |
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| 22:05.04 | phoenixz | Hi there, would it be possible to get support in other (non kde) programs (like firefox, thunderbird, etc) for KDE functionality like kwallet? |
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| 22:05.28 | ads | phoenixz: not if they don't link against the kde libs |
| 22:07.29 | phoenixz | ads, Firefox does lots with gtk or not? why isnt it using qt libs too then? |
| 22:07.47 | cvw | phoenixz: ask the developers |
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| 22:07.58 | pinotree | phoenixz: well, you should as in #firefox, #thunderbird etc about that |
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| 22:08.00 | n3x^ | halp halp halp |
| 22:08.04 | pinotree | we can't do much for those |
| 22:08.05 | ads | qt != kde |
| 22:08.08 | n3x^ | i got rid of my taskbar thingy |
| 22:08.16 | cvw | n3x^: relax |
| 22:08.17 | n3x^ | u know where it shows which programs are running |
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| 22:08.20 | n3x^ | lol |
| 22:08.24 | ads | Even if you are using qt, you don't have kwallet. |
| 22:08.25 | phoenixz | ok |
| 22:08.28 | n3x^ | ive googled myself to death |
| 22:08.29 | ads | hei ctx144k_ |
| 22:08.35 | n3x^ | and i cant find a solution :[ |
| 22:08.49 | pinotree | n3x^: see the "emergency faq" on the topic... |
| 22:08.57 | n3x^ | rgr |
| 22:09.14 | cvw | rgr? must be a typo for brb |
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| 22:09.19 | n3x^ | faq on the webby wasnt working |
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| 22:09.28 | n3x^ | no.. too much 1.6, short for roger |
| 22:09.29 | n3x^ | xD |
| 22:09.53 | cvw | Is there any way to enable some type of global shortcuts for KMail? It doesn't even have an option in the menu system for editing. |
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| 22:11.51 | luislo | Hi all. Everytime I logout the ksmserver crashes with the sigsegv signal... how can I fix it? |
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| 22:14.34 | PhilRod | luislo: try renaming ~/.kde/share/config/ksmserverrc and ~/.kde/share/apps/session (don't delete them). That will clear out the session manager settings. Then restart kde and try again |
| 22:14.42 | PhilRod | if it doesn't help, move the files back |
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| 22:17.42 | luislo | PhilRod: But if I clear out the session manager settings then I won't save the session everytime I log out, right? |
| 22:18.25 | PhilRod | it won't save the session the first time, but the files will get restored the next time you log out |
| 22:18.44 | PhilRod | well, you might need to tell kde to save the session each time, which you can do in control center |
| 22:19.48 | PhilRod | anyway, this is just a way that might solve your problem, it might not. What to do afterwards is a separate question |
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| 22:21.03 | n3x^ | i tried kquitapp plasma; rm $KDEHOME/share/config/plasma-appletsrc; plasma to delete settings and try get my taskbar back |
| 22:21.06 | n3x^ | but that didnt work |
| 22:21.18 | n3x^ | i've also tried deleting .kde |
| 22:21.27 | n3x^ | i miss my taskbar |
| 22:21.28 | n3x^ | :[ |
| 22:22.46 | PhilRod | yargh, don't delete ~/.kde |
| 22:23.05 | PhilRod | hrm, maybe it's less dangerous in kde4 |
| 22:23.21 | n3x^ | it didnt hurt, it just didnt make a difference |
| 22:23.30 | n3x^ | once i reboot i still have the same widgets and stuff |
| 22:23.38 | n3x^ | my taskbar never comes back |
| 22:23.46 | n3x^ | why did i click remove.. |
| 22:23.50 | n3x^ | :[ |
| 22:24.17 | PhilRod | well, ~/.kde (in kde 3 at least) potentially contains your addressbook and your mail, as well as all your settings, so deleting it isn't a great idea |
| 22:24.30 | n3x^ | fresh install |
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| 22:24.33 | n3x^ | :] |
| 22:24.40 | n3x^ | got absolutely nothing on it |
| 22:24.59 | n3x^ | thought id try kde4... maybe its not ready |
| 22:25.08 | Embolism | hi |
| 22:25.09 | n3x^ | might run away and hide with kde3 again |
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| 22:27.03 | Embolism | hi anyone give me a link to how to configure this app to go to arcnet.dccdelight |
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| 22:27.46 | Embolism | sorry arcnet#dccdelight |
| 22:28.31 | cvw | Embolism: hit F1 |
| 22:28.32 | Embolism | ArcNet #dccdelight |
| 22:28.54 | Embolism | its ok done it :) |
| 22:33.18 | n3x^ | i fixed it! |
| 22:33.23 | n3x^ | google wins. |
| 22:33.24 | n3x^ | http://anojrs.blogspot.com/2008/01/disappearing-panel-in-kde-4.html |
| 22:33.26 | n3x^ | btw |
| 22:33.35 | n3x^ | incase u wanna add it to the emergency faq |
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| 22:52.09 | Anonycat | In KMPlayer, I have the [application/x-shockwave-flash] config section set up, with player=npp and the location of the plugin. However, this isn't successful at loading flash videos. Does the error have anything to do with the "Play with..." menu including mplayer, xine, gstreamer, and something called "Ice Ape", but not an "npp" entry as named in config? |
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| 23:14.36 | w0lfie | hey all |
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| 23:15.11 | w0lfie | does anyone know where the config settings lay for the task bar drag&drop focus time? |
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| 23:20.17 | theunixgeek | How can I make a link to my home folder and other devices on my desktop without the little arrow thingy that represents links? |
| 23:21.08 | pinotree | for devices, right click on the desktop → configure desktop → behaviour → device icons |
| 23:21.30 | pinotree | for the home folder, unless it's a device on its own, no way, it would always be a link |
| 23:22.18 | theunixgeek | thanks |
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| 23:22.45 | theunixgeek | pinotree: um... I set it to show the mounted hard disks but it's not showing :( |
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| 23:26.55 | Sitting_Wolf | Hello everybody, sorry if i disturb. Is it possible to switch from one open window to the other in one click? where could i configure that? |
| 23:27.11 | Sitting_Wolf | (keyboard input one key) |
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| 23:34.09 | OgreBoy | Sitting_Wolf: erm ... reconfigure the alt-tab key binding to a single key? |
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| 23:35.55 | Angelus | guys |
| 23:35.58 | litb | wow, gtk-kde4 looks nice |
| 23:36.02 | litb | any experience with it? |
| 23:36.04 | Angelus | why is konqueror on kde4 displaying bad fonts? |
| 23:36.06 | litb | is it still ugly or buggy? |
| 23:36.11 | Angelus | not everytype of font dough |
| 23:36.16 | litb | i'm looking forward to grab it if you say it's good |
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| 23:36.46 | litb | Angelus: i've given up using konqi for browsing. it sucks performance too bad |
| 23:37.04 | Angelus | well but its nice :P |
| 23:38.07 | Sitting_Wolf | OgreBoy: yes where is this configure file? |
| 23:38.17 | litb | lol i don't use browsers because they look nice lolz |
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| 23:40.52 | t3rror | what is the general purpose ftp client that kde users prefer? |
| 23:41.16 | OgreBoy | Sitting_Wolf, kde preferences ... "global shortcuts". kde3 has it in "Regional & Accessibility" -> "Keyboard Shortcuts" |
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| 23:41.21 | t3rror | i can and will use the cli for ftp, but i am looking for something graphical to play with |
| 23:41.33 | OgreBoy | t3rror, depends. me, usually either firefox or konqeror. |
| 23:41.46 | OgreBoy | both will browse ftp: urls |
| 23:41.56 | litb | haha, apachelogger |
| 23:41.59 | litb | "Amarok 1 war gut, aber wir wollten einen Amarok der genau so sexy wie die Entwickler ist." |
| 23:42.28 | OgreBoy | Sitting_Wolf, you want to find the "Walk Through Windows" shortcut under Navigation, click on it, and I'd suggest you set the "Alternate" shortcut to whatever key it is you want |
| 23:42.44 | OgreBoy | ok, I wouldn't recommend using a single key (it means that's pretty much all you can use that key for) |
| 23:42.52 | t3rror | OgreBoy, I am looking for more of a complete ftp client, saved sites, transfer queue, speed limits, etc |
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| 23:43.08 | OgreBoy | ah, ok |
| 23:43.40 | t3rror | a quick google search only came back with kasablanca, but it doesn't look like there has been anything active with it since 2--6 |
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| 23:44.25 | Sitting_Wolf | OgreBoy: (its for switching from a presentation to a life stream back to a presentation ... it's the simplest way i found for the moment thx for your help ) |
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| 23:44.55 | OgreBoy | I'd go for the PrintScreen key then noone else ever uses it ;) |
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| 23:45.07 | OgreBoy | or ScrollLock. I use that for locking my screen :) |
| 23:45.34 | DaveQB | anyone "lost" their task managerr in KDE4 ? |
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| 23:46.16 | phoenixz | Question.. Im using KDE4 and I want the menu's to fade in, not to size/fade in as they do right now.. Where exactly can I configure that? |
| 23:50.53 | phoenixz | Anyone here on a help with kde4? |
| 23:52.23 | tinin | Is it normal that plasma is crashing each few min on kde 4.0.61 on opensuse? |
| 23:52.43 | jose | phoenixz: look for it in Desktop Effects |
| 23:53.03 | DaveQB | this might help some guys here |
| 23:53.03 | DaveQB | http://software-libre.rudd-o.com/KDE_4.0.0_emergency_FAQ |
| 23:53.07 | Anonycat | In KMPlayer, I have the [application/x-shockwave-flash] config section set up, with player=npp and the location of the plugin. However, this isn't successful at loading flash videos. Does the error have anything to do with the "Play with..." menu including mplayer, xine, gstreamer, and something called "Ice Ape", but not an "npp" entry as named in config? |
| 23:53.37 | DaveQB | anyone finding that Konqueror wont open HTML/Hyperlinks when browsing, it asks to save as or open with Real Player..... |
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| 23:55.18 | jose | DaveQB: I think that is solved in latest kde4 |
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| 23:57.14 | OgreBoy | Anonycat, I used kaffeine for playing flv, with the xine backend. |
| 23:57.40 | Anonycat | embedded in HTML pages? |
| 23:57.42 | OgreBoy | you could try configuring that (well, the kpart) as the embedded player for flv, and use embedded by default |
| 23:58.58 | OgreBoy | lemme try one ... works in konq as filebrowser, but .. yeah. |
| 23:59.15 | OgreBoy | what's the url for that kmplayer config? |
