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| 00:12.04 | johnny69 | How can I start Kotact without that damn "Korganizer - Reminder Daemon" |
| 00:12.10 | johnny69 | starting each time as well ? |
| 00:12.21 | johnny69 | Kde 3.5.x Thanks |
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| 00:20.50 | aseigo | johnny69: unclick "Reminders enabled" in the context menu of the systray icon for it? |
| 00:20.59 | aseigo | johnny69: i *think* tha tdoes it |
| 00:22.00 | johnny69 | That is unchecked now. But if I close Kontact and start again, I end up with the "reminders" daemon running and the icon in the sys trasy all over again. |
| 00:22.01 | johnny69 | :( |
| 00:23.09 | pinotree | gently pokes aseigo ;) |
| 00:23.24 | aseigo | pinotree: sorry, i had a shit day =( |
| 00:23.32 | pinotree | oooh, no problem |
| 00:23.36 | aseigo | pinotree: didn't test okular. *sob* |
| 00:23.55 | pinotree | hugs aseigo, feels strange =D |
| 00:24.01 | aseigo | johnny69: hm. oddness. *shrug* sorry =/ |
| 00:24.04 | aseigo | pinotree: =) |
| 00:24.06 | aseigo | thanks =) |
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| 00:53.29 | k1lumin4t1 | isn't there any kde tool in the vein of gtkpod? |
| 00:54.03 | pinotree | amarok? |
| 00:54.34 | k1lumin4t1 | amarok does music only |
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| 00:54.42 | k1lumin4t1 | I mean a complete tool like gtkpod |
| 00:54.49 | k1lumin4t1 | just ipod related |
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| 00:55.21 | pinotree | amarok does ipod as well... |
| 00:55.32 | k1lumin4t1 | yes but does it do video? |
| 00:55.47 | drantin | amarok can't do video transfers? |
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| 00:56.11 | luke-jr | why does Konsole display # as £ if UTF-8 is enabled? |
| 00:56.12 | k1lumin4t1 | and it doesn't seem to have good support for ipod classic 6th gen |
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| 01:02.21 | drantin | so, anyone else have any problems with a default kde4.0.2 config and the up arrow on the keyboard? (cleared the .kde4.0 directory and the problem persists...) |
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| 01:10.48 | Roey | hi |
| 01:10.51 | Roey | Jucato: heya! |
| 01:11.02 | Roey | why does my shift+shift combination not switch languages??? |
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| 01:15.08 | okooooolo | any way to set up a middle click to close active window?" |
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| 01:19.47 | x1250 | Uhm, is there any gui program in KDE4 to configure my printer? |
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| 01:31.37 | thuglife0320 | this is a quick question about Superkaramba bundled with KDE 4 |
| 01:32.19 | thuglife0320 | is it any different from the standard Superkaramba and are Superkaramba applets or whatever they're called hardware accelearted like plasmoids are on plasma |
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| 01:57.33 | Shadow_mil | I got a problem Im not sure how to fix. |
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| 01:58.06 | Shadow_mil | I got a laptop |
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| 01:58.16 | Shadow_mil | it has a button to disable the touch pad |
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| 01:58.29 | sjuxax | trying to build kuickshow from KDE4, am told Unknown CMake command "kde4_add_kdeinit_executable". |
| 01:58.32 | Shadow_mil | but when I disable, and renable it. The help menu pops up |
| 01:59.01 | sjuxax | using archlinux and some revision of kdelibs from a short time ago? anyone know why I might be getting that? I can build other kde4 stuff fine |
| 01:59.16 | Shadow_mil | KDE sees the command of re-enabling the touch pad is.... one sec |
| 01:59.19 | pinotree | sjuxax: you need the base directory, then the cmake directory and run cmake pointing to that |
| 01:59.24 | pinotree | in short: |
| 01:59.33 | pinotree | svn up .../graphics -N |
| 01:59.35 | pinotree | cd graphics |
| 01:59.37 | pinotree | svn up cmake |
| 01:59.43 | pinotree | svn up kuickshow |
| 02:00.02 | pinotree | then when running cmake point it to graphics, NOT to graphics/kuickshow |
| 02:00.18 | Shadow_mil | XF86Launch0 |
| 02:00.26 | sjuxax | pinoturee, thanks, that's awesome. <3 |
| 02:03.21 | Shadow_mil | well............... hello? |
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| 02:15.15 | Alumin | is it possible to manually edit the IMAP subscriptions for KMail? I'm having a problem where KMail segfaults whenever I try to enable IMAP subscriptions (whether it's running inside Kontact or not) |
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| 02:15.58 | Alumin | eventually I'd like to get to the bottom of the segfault problem, but right now I kinda just need to whittle down my folder list so I don't constantly show 14,000 new messages (because of all the public folders I can't unsubscribe from) |
| 02:16.21 | aseigo | Alumin: grep for the server name in ~/.kde/share/config/* |
| 02:16.52 | aseigo | Alumin: it's probably in kmailrc, but it might be in mailtransportsrc? |
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| 02:17.44 | Alumin | ah ok, kmailrc |
| 02:17.59 | Alumin | so I just remove all the [Folder-*] blocks for the ones I don't want? |
| 02:18.52 | larrydag | is anyone else having kmail issues with the transfer protocol? kmail is only letting me use the default and not my other accounts |
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| 02:23.08 | Alumin | hmm, no, that just made it angry |
| 02:24.25 | Alumin | would removing the account and re-creating it help at all? |
| 02:26.04 | larrydag | Alumin, is that response to me? |
| 02:26.29 | Alumin | larrydag: no, I was just commenting on KMail's response to my mangling of its config file |
| 02:26.39 | Alumin | now it's segfaulting when I try to sort by date as well :P |
| 02:26.54 | larrydag | Alumin: ok. i'm having kmail problems myself |
| 02:27.03 | Alumin | when I get a minute to play with it, I'm gonna try removing and re-creating the account |
| 02:27.27 | Alumin | maybe I can set up the IMAP subscriptions during the account creation and it'll work |
| 02:27.53 | Alumin | but no, I only have one outbound transfer so I can't reproduce your issue |
| 02:28.56 | Shadow_mil | well............... hello? |
| 02:30.14 | Shadow_mil | I got a laptop, it has a button to disable the touch pad. But when I disable, and renable it, the help menu pops up. KDE sees the command of re-enabling the touch pad is: XF86Launch0. |
| 02:30.34 | Shadow_mil | And its not bond to a shortcut |
| 02:30.43 | Shadow_mil | I have no idea why its doing it |
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| 02:34.02 | dwinslow | Shadow_mil: if your computer is mis-detecting the keypress then you have the wrong keyboard model selected |
| 02:34.27 | Shadow_mil | dwinslow, No. Thats not it |
| 02:34.52 | Shadow_mil | I used KDE to determine KDE was seeing the re-enabling of the key is XF86Launch0 |
| 02:34.56 | larrydag | does anyone know how to change the transfer protocol from default only in Kmail? |
| 02:34.57 | Shadow_mil | which should not be anything |
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| 02:48.49 | pedepy2 | how can i edit my kmenu in kde4? |
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| 03:23.53 | Alumin | ok, something about this account configuration is FUBAR |
| 03:24.11 | Alumin | I can't even delete the account from the account configuration screen, it segfaults whenever I try |
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| 03:35.23 | Alumin | tried purging the kmail/kontact packages and re-installing, same symptoms...it just doesn't want to deal with IMAP subscriptions for some reason |
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| 03:57.22 | luke-jr | Alumin: kdepim is fubar |
| 03:57.34 | luke-jr | Alumin: I'd give up on it if there was anything better |
| 03:58.18 | Alumin | well, I'm pretty happy with Kontact/Kmail in general |
| 03:58.27 | Alumin | it's just this particular install that's giving me trouble |
| 03:58.46 | Alumin | hopes KDE 4.x will be the magic bullet that fixes everything :) |
| 03:58.51 | luke-jr | haha |
| 03:58.53 | luke-jr | maybe 4.1 |
| 03:58.55 | luke-jr | or 4.2 |
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| 03:59.07 | luke-jr | kdepim is so broken it was removed in 4.0 |
| 03:59.18 | Alumin | aww |
| 03:59.29 | luke-jr | and recent regressions in 3.5 make it clear nobody is actually maintaining it |
| 03:59.37 | luke-jr | IMAP groupware is 100% broken now |
| 03:59.47 | texnofobix__ | google is taking over :( |
| 03:59.54 | luke-jr | stabs Google |
| 04:00.10 | Alumin | but but |
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| 04:00.35 | luke-jr | I wish I had time to write PIM apps |
| 04:00.38 | Alumin | is there any other PIM software for X-Windows that's even close to Kontact feature-wise? |
| 04:00.45 | luke-jr | not afaik |
| 04:01.01 | Alumin | I've had one eye open on Chandler, but it's not ready for prime time just yet |
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| 04:08.21 | aseigo | Alumin: is chandler still under development? |
| 04:09.06 | Alumin | as far as I know...although the development seems pretty slow |
| 04:09.22 | Alumin | that's probably because I'm chafing so hard to have a really kickass PIM though :) |
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| 04:11.10 | wolfboy222 | is there a KDE-native GUI SFTP client? |
| 04:12.30 | Kalidarn | wolfboy222: try kftpgrabber |
| 04:12.53 | Kalidarn | i believe it does SFTP as does konqueror |
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| 04:48.06 | memunkey | Obsidian-X, hands free what? |
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| 05:33.37 | jaggy- | can I make my menu-bar program icons smaller? |
| 05:34.02 | jaggy- | I'd like two rows of them even -- so I can have more "quick launch" icons there |
| 05:35.04 | Jucato | KDE 3? you can just use the Quick Launcher panel applet which you can figure to use any icon size |
| 05:35.26 | Jucato | right-click on the panel -> Add Applet to Panel -> search for Quick Launcher |
| 05:35.44 | Kalidarn | does anyone know how to enable the dictionary in kate? |
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| 05:35.50 | Kalidarn | or if there is one |
| 05:36.11 | Kalidarn | im not sure if my distro set it up correctly, i suppose i could try the kde4live disc |
| 05:36.23 | jaggy- | cool! nice quick launcher.. |
| 05:36.53 | Jucato | isn't sure about KDE 4.. but in KDE 3, you just have to setup and enable KDE's central spell checker and any app that has spell checking will use that |
| 05:37.09 | jaggy- | oh.. it's only one icon-space though (holding many icons in it) |
| 05:37.25 | Kalidarn | my spell checker worked in KDE3 im aware of that |
| 05:37.45 | jaggy- | jucato, can it be .. wider? |
| 05:38.58 | Jucato | jaggy-: just adjust the icon size and it should "widen" |
| 05:39.34 | Jucato | it also adjusts depending on the number of items in it |
| 05:39.36 | jaggy- | I was just trying that when I noticed it wasn't full of icons -- that's it, thanks. :) |
| 05:41.25 | jaggy- | beautiful. |
| 05:41.39 | jaggy- | kali, not trying to ignore you -- just don't know an answer for ya :) |
| 05:45.49 | jaggy- | any way you know of to copy a windows size/position to the clipboard ("100x100+x+y") so I can more easily adjust -geometry params? |
| 05:46.16 | jaggy- | I do have display of it on when I adjust the window.. guess I'm looking to make rare things more convenient when they don't have to be |
| 05:47.13 | jaggy- | oh -- I can't configure the icons settings in quicklauncher anyway.. hm |
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| 07:44.34 | jaggy- | where do I adjust the program settings (the x.desktop entries) I added to kde's quick launcher? |
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| 07:46.13 | annma | jaggy-: you mean a program in Autostart? |
| 07:47.21 | jaggy- | hmm.. no |
| 07:47.59 | ObsidianX | is it possible to turn my computer into the hands-free headset for my bluetooth phone? |
| 07:48.01 | jaggy- | I added the quick launcher panel and dragged my icons onto it, but unlike the menu, I can't right-click -> configure |
| 07:48.08 | ObsidianX | i can do it in windows, but i can't figure out how to do it in linux |
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| 07:49.27 | thiago_home | Right-click, configure is there |
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| 08:02.26 | ObsidianX | memunkey: sorry, for a cellphone, making the computer act as a headset |
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| 08:03.13 | jaggy- | obsidian, with a mic and speakers? |
| 08:03.51 | jaggy- | and then you're going to have the computer be recognized as a bluetooth headset for your cellphone? |
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| 08:10.22 | ObsidianX | jaggy-: yeah |
| 08:10.49 | ObsidianX | jaggy-: got it working in windows, so i know its possible, just wondering how i'd do it in linux |
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| 08:39.57 | jaggy- | obsi, any luck? |
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| 08:41.33 | jaggy- | ctrl-alt-V doesn't display my klipper menu |
| 08:41.45 | jaggy- | although it's set to that in kb shortcuts |
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| 08:46.51 | fortnox | Morning, Tell me is kde 4.0.2 relatively stable? |
| 08:47.55 | Tm_T | is |
| 08:48.30 | fortnox | is .... |
| 08:48.45 | jpatrick | fortnox: stable, doesn't have features tho |
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| 08:49.00 | ObsidianX | jaggy-: i have no clue where to even start |
| 08:49.13 | ObsidianX | jaggy-: i've been looking around and all i can really find is how to sync a headset to the computer |
| 08:49.19 | ObsidianX | not make the computer act as a headset |
| 08:49.37 | fortnox | thats why i asked relatively ..lol.. |
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| 08:56.46 | jaggy- | obsidian, type the words/phrases you would use if you were writing the documentation on it |
| 08:56.55 | jaggy- | into a search engine :) |
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| 09:00.47 | arkygeek | hi all. I just purged my system of all things gnome, and now i cannot connect to my wpa wifi network. wpa-supplicant is installed, but knetworkmanager does not give me a wpa option. any suggestions? |
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| 09:01.17 | fortnox | arkygeek: what distro you using? |
| 09:01.23 | arkygeek | kubuntu |
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| 09:02.41 | fortnox | Most of those pkgs are gnome ports.. |
| 09:03.01 | jaggy- | How can I reload quicklauncher's icons? I modified my quick launcher icons by hand (to rename "Home" to "Files"), then I changed the Home.desktop file to correspond, but the icons aren't updating. I killed klauncher and it came back but the launcher itself didn't so much as flicker... now I killed kicker .. and it didn't come back and now I have no panel at all :) |
| 09:03.01 | arkygeek | made a mistake purging all the gnome stuff :'( |
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| 09:38.52 | Datax__ | hi all |
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| 09:39.32 | Datax__ | I have an issue with kdm |
| 09:39.43 | Datax__ | I keep getting the following error message in my syslog : |
| 09:39.46 | Datax__ | Mar 18 10:30:29 is205396 kdm_greet[9407]: Can't open default user face |
| 09:39.46 | arkygeek | Datax__: what is the issue |
| 09:40.03 | Datax__ | I don't know what user faces are |
| 09:40.03 | x_ | Is it normal to get banned from a channel for trying to paste a large Terminal text into the chat window? |
| 09:40.11 | Datax__ | x_: yes |
| 09:40.18 | annma_ | x_: yes, use a pastebin |
| 09:40.18 | Datax__ | x_: use pastebin |
| 09:40.22 | x_ | that's rediculous. |
| 09:40.26 | annma_ | why? |
| 09:40.30 | x_ | but thank you for letting me know Datax |
| 09:40.33 | Datax__ | np |
| 09:40.39 | annma_ | we cannot chat of people paste text, think about it |
| 09:40.58 | Datax__ | what are user faces ? |
| 09:41.01 | x_ | works on any other support chat in the world, annma |
| 09:41.04 | annma_ | I say something, your text is displayed, someone says something |
| 09:41.15 | annma_ | which ones? |
| 09:41.19 | x_ | i do understand, but get banned? |
| 09:41.25 | x_ | a little warning first would be nice |
| 09:41.35 | GNU\colossus | x_: not on IRC - and IRC is the largest chat network in the world, so it sets rules of its own |
| 09:41.38 | x_ | non-linux support i mean, sorry |
| 09:41.43 | Datax__ | x_: that is a bit harsh but so is life :) |
| 09:41.47 | GNU\colossus | x_: agree, to ban without warning is a little rude |
| 09:41.48 | x_ | haven't ever used IRC. |
| 09:41.51 | annma_ | you are not usually banned |
| 09:41.54 | annma_ | just kicked |
| 09:41.59 | annma_ | what channel was it? |
| 09:42.06 | x_ | do you think they "unban" me after a while? |
| 09:42.13 | x_ | annma: sabayon channel |
| 09:42.25 | fortnox | dude its just for 19secs |
| 09:42.27 | annma | x_: they are a bit too harsh then |
| 09:42.37 | annma | x_: but please learn to read the topic channel |
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| 09:42.39 | fortnox | and you did paste |
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| 09:42.58 | x_ | fortnox: thank you for clarifying...it's my first time on IRC and I'm recently devirginized on Linux (2 weeks) |
| 09:43.02 | annma | usually topic channels gives you indications on how to behave |
| 09:43.21 | x_ | annma, okay I'll look for that next time |
| 09:43.28 | annma | x_: flooding is like always talking in front of another person, not letting him to talk |
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| 09:43.39 | fortnox | x_: rejoin they will help you :) |
| 09:43.46 | annma | IRC is like real life, users forget that sometimes |
| 09:44.03 | x_ | fort: I will, thank you |
| 09:44.14 | fortnox | anma so true :) |
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| 09:44.29 | x_ | the last time I used an online chat was on AOL, over seven years ago. |
| 09:45.11 | x_ | I feel old LOL |
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| 09:45.41 | annma | don't worry about that ;) |
| 09:46.44 | jaggy- | is there a process associated with panel applets? |
| 09:47.06 | x_ | since I'm here, is the wireless network issue fixed now on KDE 4.0.2 ? |
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| 09:47.24 | jaggy- | I edited my launcher_rc file by hand and after killing and re-running kicker, my quick launch applet never came back |
| 09:47.46 | qupada42 | x_: just out of interest, which specific wireless network issue is this? |
| 09:48.15 | jaggy- | THEE wireless network issue :) |
| 09:48.38 | x_ | quapada: KDE 4 wouldn't detect certain wireless networks, this was possible restricted to certain cards but not sure. Others also had problems to get it to auto-connect, even using KDEwallet |
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| 09:49.19 | qupada | ah, ok |
| 09:49.22 | annma | KDE does not detect wireless networks, usually your distro does |
| 09:49.29 | Datax__ | Can someone please explain what "default user face" is ? I keep getting an error message in my syslog about it. Sometimes KDE refuses to open a session and just hangs and sometimes it refuses to close the session (it leaves me with nothing but my wallpaper and hangs) |
| 09:49.43 | annma | Datax__: it's probably a picture associated with your user |
| 09:49.49 | qupada | the classic problm at the moment seems to be with networkmanager 0.6 not supporting connecting to networks which are both encrypted and hidden ssid |
| 09:49.52 | annma | is it a new install Datax__? |
| 09:49.57 | Datax__ | yes |
| 09:50.04 | annma | ask your distro then |
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| 09:50.12 | x_ | annma: it was a problem with KNetworkmanager |
| 09:50.12 | Datax__ | :s |
| 09:50.21 | x_ | quapada: yes, that problem |
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| 09:50.41 | annma | knetworkmanager is not part of kde official |
| 09:50.57 | x_ | it isn't? |
| 09:50.58 | annma | hmm maybe I don't have kdenetwork |
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| 09:51.09 | annma | not sure |
| 09:51.19 | pusling | no. knetworkmanager is a third party app. |
| 09:51.28 | annma | thanks pusling |
| 09:51.29 | x_ | I'm on distro #4 and KDE always came with Knetworkmanager |
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| 09:51.39 | qupada | x_: ah, so it is that one. well the good news is it's apparently already fixed in networkmanager, but you'll have to compile it from svn (and probably knetworkmanager too) to get a version that works |
| 09:51.42 | annma | all I know is that my distro does this wireless detection |
| 09:51.59 | x_ | so if it's a third party app or not, to a new user like myself if it comes with something it "belongs" to it...if that makes any sense |
| 09:52.03 | annma | x_: distros are different from KDE vanilla |
| 09:52.07 | qupada | or just wait for networkmanager 0.7, which will work |
| 09:52.09 | annma | x_: I have KDE vanilla |
| 09:52.34 | x_ | I'll prolly wait until that bug is totally fixed before I get 4.0. It is very pretty tho :) |
| 09:52.45 | Tm_T | hi kids |
| 09:53.02 | pusling | knm 0.7 is for kde3, not kde4 |
| 09:53.47 | x_ | i'm using knetworkmanager 02 now and it works ok |
| 09:54.04 | annma | x_: doesn't have this sabayon any network management tool then??? |
| 09:54.20 | x_ | annma: yeah, sabayon came with 0.2 |
| 09:54.30 | annma | doe sit have a TOOL? |
| 09:54.37 | annma | its own tool |
| 09:54.43 | x_ | I had openSuSe before that, it came with...uh...can't remember. but that one worked perfectly |
| 09:54.48 | annma | see |
| 09:54.57 | annma | so your distro does badly its job |
| 09:55.10 | x_ | whose? |
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| 09:57.28 | x_ | oh I think I understand you now... I don't know if Sabayon has it's own network manager tool. I'm very much a "push this button to install" type of guy. I just opted for the KDE version during the Sabayon installation and it defaulted to using Knetworkmanager |
| 09:58.11 | fortnox | x_ r u using sabayon 3.4e? |
| 09:58.48 | x_ | fort: 3.4 something...how can i check my version? |
| 09:59.02 | fortnox | there was an issue with Knetworkmanager. The easiest way to bypass it is do the following... |
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| 09:59.57 | fortnox | click the meny tab.. in the search field type in Network.. |
| 10:00.26 | nick01 | how do I change the favorite programs in KDE 4 ? or make it show the most used programs even better ? (I hate the new menu system) |
| 10:00.46 | fortnox | click on the icon Network |
| 10:00.47 | fortnox | and it will give you network settings |
| 10:01.02 | fortnox | from there set it up.. and save.. reboot and it should work |
| 10:01.08 | annma | nick01: you'll probably have to wait for 4.1 |
| 10:01.15 | x_ | nick: I think you can switch back to the old KDE style |
| 10:01.27 | nick01 | :( annma I can't even change the favorites ? |
| 10:01.35 | annma | change? |
| 10:01.36 | x_ | fort: I'm doing okay right now with the networkmanager |
| 10:01.49 | x_ | the problem was with 4.x |
| 10:01.51 | nick01 | annma, add/remove, add them mostly |
| 10:01.52 | fortnox | Oh... OK my bad... |
| 10:02.01 | annma | nick01: right click |
| 10:02.02 | x_ | not at all, I appreciate your help mate |
| 10:02.15 | nick01 | annma, where ? |
| 10:02.16 | fortnox | where you from x_? |
| 10:02.32 | nick01 | annma, I do that in favorites in the K menu nothing happens |
| 10:02.35 | x_ | USA, you? |
| 10:02.42 | fortnox | South Africa... |
| 10:02.44 | x_ | because I said mate huh? :) |
| 10:02.51 | nick01 | annma, I can remove existing ones |
| 10:02.52 | fortnox | lol |
| 10:02.57 | x_ | have Brit friends...it's contagious! LOL |
| 10:02.59 | annma | nick01: good |
| 10:02.59 | nick01 | annma, but how do I add a new one ? |
| 10:03.09 | annma | you click on the prog you want to add |
| 10:03.16 | jaggy- | how do I get klauncher back? |
| 10:03.18 | annma | right click on Firefox for ex |
| 10:03.30 | annma | nick01: ^^ |
| 10:03.30 | jaggy- | I killed it sometime and it restarted.. but I guess the last time it did not restart. |
| 10:04.07 | fortnox | Brits and Ausies... they mate alot (that sounds wrong..) |
| 10:04.07 | nick01 | annma, tks that worked, those suse usability experts that I think did this (didnt they?) should be shot |
| 10:04.15 | x_ | alrighty, I guess I just got unbanned. thanks for all your help, I'm sure I'll be stopping by a lot in the future. Cheers, Ciao, Bye |
| 10:04.26 | x_ | fort: haha |
| 10:04.37 | fortnox | ciao |
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| 10:10.33 | maki_d | is this real kde4 screen http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/JMMING+KDE4+?content=77122 ? |
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| 10:12.40 | nick01 | maki_d, rofl - a heavily modified one it seems |
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| 10:14.10 | maki_d | i'm wondering how that black stripe around the widgets was made |
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| 10:46.53 | GNU\colossus | (kde3) how can I disable switching to scroll-mode when pressing the middle mouse button in konqueror? |
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| 10:49.16 | Jucato | Settings -> Configure Konqueror -> Web Behavior -> Enable [ ] Middle click opens URL in selection |
| 10:51.10 | Worf | omg - just tested... good that this is not default :) |
| 10:51.45 | Worf | didn't eaven know of this scroll mode |
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| 10:53.55 | maki_d | why superkaramba doesnt start the widgets i used last time ? |
| 10:54.18 | GNU\colossus | Jucato: and what if I don't want that either? :) |
| 10:54.49 | Jucato | GNU\colossus: unfortunately :P |
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| 11:14.27 | bibi__ | i am getting a messige : could not find mime type . application/octet-stream over and over again for no apparent reason |
| 11:14.34 | bibi__ | what could be the problem? |
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| 11:18.58 | pinotree | in a console, run kbuildsycoca --noincremental |
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| 11:22.59 | bibi__ | i think i fixed it |
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| 11:41.53 | nick01 | where does kde 4 keep the home, system, trash etc icons now ? weren't they in /etc/skel I think ? or it stopped making those ? |
| 11:43.18 | boom1992 | nick01: $KDEDIR/share/icons ? |
| 11:44.15 | annma | nick01: what distro? |
| 11:44.24 | annma | you should ask that to your distro |
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| 11:45.26 | lostson | try /usr/share/icons |
| 11:46.22 | nick01 | annma, gentoo |
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| 11:46.46 | annma | so you SHOULD know what you do |
| 11:46.50 | annma | where you install |
| 11:47.14 | annma | <nick01> where does kde 4 keep the home <-- define home |
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| 11:47.37 | nick01 | annma, the home, trash etc links on the desktop |
| 11:47.45 | annma | ??? |
| 11:48.02 | annma | home is your home directory |
| 11:48.04 | aleksanteri | nick01, ~? |
| 11:48.08 | nick01 | annma, in kde 3 u get a link to the home dir one for trash and system I believe |
| 11:48.17 | annma | open dolphin |
| 11:48.23 | nick01 | on the desktop |
| 11:48.24 | annma | there's a link to your trash |
| 11:48.34 | annma | bah, desktop is so obsolete |
| 11:48.39 | annma | desktop is dead |
| 11:48.42 | Jucato | I'm guessing he's referring to the default Desktop icons on a vanilla KDE 3 install. he's probably looking for those on KDE 4 |
| 11:48.44 | nick01 | annma, I still like it lol |
| 11:48.47 | annma | plasma is there now |
| 11:48.53 | annma | use kde3 then |
| 11:48.55 | nick01 | Jucato, yup exactly |
| 11:49.06 | annma | ~/Desktop |
| 11:49.07 | apt | it has been said that /desktop is a folder (under KDE 3.2 RC1 that is) |
| 11:49.11 | annma | that's where Desktop is |
| 11:49.13 | Jucato | nick01: you can still get those I think. you can drag the locations from Dolphin onto the desktop |
| 11:49.25 | Jucato | apt: your trigger is weird :P |
| 11:49.25 | apt | okay, Jucato |
| 11:49.30 | annma | desktop is at ~/Desktop |
| 11:49.30 | Jucato | hahah |
| 11:49.31 | aleksanteri | lol |
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| 11:49.40 | nick01 | Jucato, but kde 4 is not supposed to add those by default anymore I gather ? |
| 11:49.41 | aleksanteri | that's a weird bot |
| 11:49.48 | annma | nick01: desktop is at ~/Desktop |
| 11:49.50 | Jucato | nick01: no. at least not yet |
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| 11:50.00 | nick01 | annma, yeah I know |
| 11:50.04 | annma | nick01: be new, be modern, be fresh |
| 11:50.09 | nick01 | lol |
| 11:50.14 | annma | forget all those old bad memories |
| 11:50.31 | annma | be a new born!!! |
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| 11:50.38 | Jucato | Plasma is still growing. things are still being fleshed out and improved. so don't panic :) |
| 11:50.42 | annma | experiment a new concept |
| 11:50.51 | annma | wow, I am so good today |
| 11:50.56 | Jucato | so poetic :) |
| 11:50.58 | Jucato | :P |
| 11:51.01 | annma | ;) |
| 11:51.05 | Jucato | huggles annma before disappearing for dinner |
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| 11:51.27 | nick01 | how do I align to greed icons on desktop ? the align vertically option doesnt work |
| 11:51.28 | annma | huggles Jucato back |
| 11:51.46 | annma | nick01: you have to wait for 4.1 for a more convenient desktop I'm afraid |
| 11:51.58 | annma | this is WiP (Work in Progress) |
| 11:52.03 | annma | no kidding here |
| 11:52.12 | nick01 | annma, so the align vertically/horizontally is broken |
| 11:52.13 | lostson | that is very true |
| 11:52.13 | nick01 | ? |
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| 11:53.52 | annma | I htink so, personally I never have any icons on my desktop |
| 11:54.08 | annma | nor in windows, nor in Linux, never |
| 11:54.19 | nick01 | lol ok |
| 11:55.06 | aleksanteri | 's debian's desktop is empty of icons however his window's one is full of them :/ |
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| 11:56.57 | nick01 | any tool,widget tray applet in kde 4 to show network activity ? in numbers too preferably ? |
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| 12:12.06 | zipito | how to make kde 3.5.1 to work with PulseAudio sound system |
| 12:12.07 | zipito | ? |
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| 12:14.09 | pinotree | no way |
| 12:14.37 | zipito | pinotree: so what can you recommend to use as sound system in kde 3,5,1? |
| 12:15.09 | pinotree | kde 3 can use only the arts sound system |
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| 12:17.02 | Kalidarn- | pinotree: https://secure.ampbanking.com |
| 12:17.04 | Kalidarn- | does that work for you |
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| 12:17.13 | Leon_ | hello |
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| 12:17.55 | Leon_ | is anybody free |
| 12:18.02 | pinotree | ? |
| 12:18.16 | Kalidarn- | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:18.22 | Kalidarn- | 4.0.2 |
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| 12:18.37 | pinotree | i cannot try that right now, sorry |
| 12:18.45 | pinotree | Leon_: what is your problem? |
| 12:19.04 | Kalidarn- | k |
| 12:19.08 | Leon_ | I am first using konverstaion |
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| 13:04.53 | drarem | ok to reinstall kde4, I tried renaming it and logging in, it still has the same problems with the missing icons on the start menu for Graphics, Internet, etc.. |
| 13:05.14 | drarem | renaming .kde4 to .kde4_bkup |
| 13:05.59 | drarem | what's best way to reinstall kde4 |
| 13:06.43 | annma | how did you install it at the first place? |
| 13:07.17 | drarem | when it first was released from beta, followed the instructions |
| 13:07.27 | drarem | i meant after beta, the real release |
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| 13:07.40 | drarem | had to do a couple of steps to install it |
| 13:07.44 | annma | you comiled it from source then? |
| 13:07.56 | annma | you compiled it from source then? |
| 13:08.01 | drarem | no |
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| 13:09.20 | annma | ask your distro how to reinstall then |
| 13:09.57 | drarem | mkay |
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| 13:11.50 | drarem | question.. in kde4, is the backlighting of the icons on the desktop fixed, like ifyou move your cursor over them too fast one or two will stay 'backlit' ? |
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| 13:34.25 | FreshPrince | moin |
| 13:34.53 | esperegu | is there any speech recognition integrated in kde yet? |
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| 13:50.16 | UID1001 | How to change kde4's panel background? |
| 13:50.48 | annma | you don't |
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| 13:52.39 | pumphaus | on kde-look.org there are some themes for plasma which also modify the panel's bg |
| 13:53.03 | annma | you can hack the code to set a bg |
| 13:53.07 | annma | pumphaus: url? |
| 13:53.11 | pumphaus | mom |
| 13:53.41 | pumphaus | this one for example: http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/Slim+Glow+(Plasma+Theme)?content=74329 |
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| 13:58.10 | pumphaus | and this: http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/Aya+Plasma+Theme?content=76197 |
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| 14:23.33 | cb400f | annma: I'm having some trouble figuring out if the khangman words have been fully translated to Danish, do you know? |
| 14:24.04 | annma | I think so |
| 14:24.07 | cb400f | http://websvn.kde.org/tags/KDE/4.0.2/kdeedu/khangman/README.languages?revision=780207&view=markup da is in the list.. |
| 14:24.08 | annma | let me look |
| 14:24.16 | cb400f | .. just wondering if it were still complete |
| 14:24.36 | cb400f | pretty sure no work has been done for kde4.x |
| 14:25.34 | annma | http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/l10n-kde4/da/data/kdeedu/khangman/ |
| 14:25.37 | annma | they are there |
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| 14:26.27 | cb400f | great thanks |
| 14:27.08 | annma | the easy, medium and hard fioles do not have hints |
| 14:27.22 | cb400f | annma: I'm having the same problem with ktuberling sounds.. :-( .. Erik has done them for kde3.. but I'm having problems figuring out whether anything needs to be done for kde4.x |
| 14:27.28 | annma | as far as I can see through KHangMan Get New Stuff |
| 14:27.43 | cb400f | oh |
| 14:27.54 | annma | so for KHangMan you need to add explanations for each word |
| 14:28.09 | annma | the game can be played without that but it's better |
| 14:29.26 | annma | for KTuberlink you need to compare the English sounds witht he Danish ones |
| 14:30.06 | annma | cigar.wav has disappeared |
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| 14:30.21 | annma | I requested all smoking-related items to be removed |
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| 14:31.40 | Jucato | yay :) |
| 14:32.40 | annma | loves smoking |
| 14:32.53 | Jucato | lol |
| 14:33.05 | annma | does not though |
| 14:33.20 | annma | except rarely out of the kids eyes ;) |
| 14:33.52 | lilltiger | took me like 20 years to get my mother to stop smoking.. |
| 14:35.18 | annma | poor mum |
| 14:35.24 | cb400f | annma: thanks.. a shitload of danish sounds missing |
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| 14:36.40 | annma | some chnaged probably |
| 14:36.42 | annma | changed |
| 14:36.45 | annma | bow |
| 14:36.54 | annma | that must replace the cigar ;) |
| 14:37.00 | annma | puts on a bow tie |
| 14:37.22 | annma | ah that feels like a nicotin patch |
| 14:37.36 | cb400f | hm.. should we really expose our children to bow ties? ;-) |
| 14:37.53 | Jucato | you prefer cigars? :) |
| 14:38.01 | annma | cb400f: lol |
| 14:38.16 | annma | Jucato: lol no, surely not |
| 14:38.38 | Jucato | I hope so... why not s/cigar/toothpick/ ? :P |
| 14:38.57 | Jucato | or s/cigar/lollipop/ |
| 14:39.04 | annma | bad for teeth |
| 14:39.13 | Jucato | heheh |
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| 14:39.16 | annma | education is very tricky |
| 14:39.25 | annma | ;) |
| 14:39.39 | Jucato | bowties are bad for neck... good for strangling :P |
| 14:39.47 | dwinslow | a carrot maybe? |
| 14:39.50 | annma | lol |
| 14:39.53 | Jucato | carrot stick! :) |
| 14:39.59 | annma | it's a potato guy, not bugs bunny |
| 14:40.04 | Jejem | lol |
| 14:40.06 | Jucato | french fries!! |
| 14:40.14 | annma | What's up doc? as a sound |
| 14:40.20 | annma | Jucato: lol |
| 14:40.22 | Jejem | quoi d'neuf docteur ? |
| 14:40.25 | dwinslow | you wouldn't want to promote cannibalism though |
| 14:40.31 | annma | yes one could do a French set |
| 14:40.33 | Jucato | dwinslow: that's the word! |
| 14:40.39 | Jucato | "cannibalism" :) |
| 14:40.42 | Jejem | dwinslow: cannibalism is over, i ate the last one. |
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| 14:42.06 | appelza | no u |
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| 14:44.08 | annma | cb400f: the KAnagram files seem very good in Danish |
| 14:44.41 | cb400f | ok.. didn't realize that had "non-text" things too |
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| 14:46.55 | lilltiger | Danish sound files in kde, hehe will probly contain "offensive" words in swedish :D |
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| 15:12.12 | airer-girl | so i gave some folders/files custom icons, im curious, if i change the entire theme in the kde control panel, will those custom panel be... changed too? |
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| 15:13.17 | dwinslow | airer-girl: well, if those custom icons come from your icon theme, then yes |
| 15:13.38 | dwinslow | if they're random images from elsewhere then no |
| 15:14.34 | airer-girl | dwinslow, random images i manually cut/pasted |
| 15:14.35 | airer-girl | ok ty |
| 15:17.16 | airer-girl | i wish more people were like you dwinslow :) |
| 15:17.56 | dwinslow | this is actually a pretty friendly channel most of the time |
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| 15:18.02 | dwinslow | dunno where everyone went |
| 15:18.17 | airer-girl | most ppl suck, give you an example |
| 15:18.29 | Jucato | hm... |
| 15:18.32 | airer-girl | i asked what sql injection is in #security, people freaked out "OMFG HOW CAN U NOT KNOO?!?22111 THAT IS LIKE, SO BASIC" |
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| 15:18.52 | dwinslow | watches the conversation spiral wildly off-topic |
| 15:18.55 | airer-girl | lol ill stop brb |
| 15:21.07 | annma | we are quite nice yes here |
| 15:21.11 | annma | :)) |
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| 15:22.06 | Jucato | except when grumpy.. then we're not nice... :) |
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| 15:22.47 | annma | heeh |
| 15:25.01 | daSKreech_ | hi annma |
| 15:25.17 | annma | oh daSKreech_ |
| 15:25.23 | annma | long time no see! |
| 15:25.50 | daSKreech_ | very long time :) how are you? |
| 15:26.29 | annma | fine, thanks! how about you? |
| 15:27.03 | Jucato | fire, thanks! |
| 15:27.06 | Jucato | :P |
| 15:27.17 | daSKreech_ | ok I'm at home playing a soothing flash game |
| 15:27.25 | daSKreech_ | stuffPimper!! :) |
| 15:27.28 | daSKreech_ | hugs Jucato |
| 15:27.33 | daSKreech_ | How's school? |
| 15:27.39 | daSKreech_ | Soothing even |
| 15:27.51 | Jucato | no news yet if I'm accepted |
| 15:27.57 | Jucato | smoothing flash game |
| 15:28.19 | Jucato | I'm looking forward to sKool or KSchool for now :P |
| 15:29.36 | daSKreech_ | Jucato: It is smooth :) |
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| 15:29.55 | daSKreech_ | annma: Does the KDE Edu team do any work with Edubuntu? |
| 15:30.06 | annma | daSKreech_: I wish |
| 15:30.18 | daSKreech_ | What do you wish? |
| 15:30.30 | annma | I was invited to an Edubuntu meeting in October but there was a strike |
| 15:30.39 | annma | so I could not go |
| 15:30.47 | annma | I wish we work together |
| 15:31.01 | annma | but *buntu do their stuff their way mainly |
| 15:31.09 | annma | I am not invited to the next meeting |
| 15:31.10 | Jucato | ah there will be another FOSS Camp in April in Czech rep... |
| 15:31.15 | daSKreech_ | Ah right the strike. |
| 15:31.15 | Jucato | aw :( |
| 15:31.16 | annma | not invited |
| 15:31.22 | Jucato | aw :( (again) |
| 15:31.27 | annma | yes, damn |
| 15:31.34 | annma | and I can't go to plasma meeting |
| 15:31.41 | lilltiger | very sad indeed |
| 15:31.48 | Jucato | plasma meeting? O.o |
| 15:31.53 | annma | in April as well |
| 15:32.01 | Jucato | wonders if that meeting will be "up in the clouds" :) |
| 15:32.06 | annma | hard to be a mum developer |
| 15:32.33 | annma | daSKreech_: I am subscribed to Edubuntu mailing lists but few happens here |
| 15:32.40 | daSKreech_ | strange that two things so rewarding individually.... |
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| 15:33.03 | annma | well Edubuntu is mainly a 1 man work |
| 15:33.16 | annma | and he is not very KDE oriented |
| 15:33.58 | cb400f | annma: quite a lot going on in openSUSE education project |
| 15:34.16 | annma | yes, that's most promising on that side |
| 15:34.37 | daSKreech_ | There is a suse Edu distro? |
| 15:34.41 | annma | James (is that James or jack) seems more interested in contacts |
| 15:34.44 | lilltiger | it feels like kde has quite poor support/communication with the different distros |
| 15:34.59 | annma | lilltiger: ouch, not at all |
| 15:35.06 | annma | lilltiger: on the contrary |
| 15:35.16 | daSKreech_ | lilltiger: How so? |
| 15:35.21 | annma | I even feel (that's MY opinion) that distros have too much contact |
| 15:35.43 | annma | and too much power on us |
| 15:35.56 | daSKreech_ | annma: how so? :) |
| 15:36.19 | annma | not sure it's wise to voice my personal feelings which are probably biased |
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| 15:36.26 | cb400f | daSKreech_: http://en.opensuse.org/Education .. Linkat (Catalunya thingy) is also based on SUSE |
| 15:36.30 | lilltiger | annma: ohh, ok, just an impression i got. First in gentoo when they started to split the kde-packages.. and then in archlinux where kdemod extends kde in thire own way |
| 15:36.37 | annma | I don't have a broad-enough view daSKreech_ |
| 15:36.53 | annma | that's only 2 distros, not major |
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| 15:37.39 | daSKreech_ | protects annma's life |
| 15:37.50 | daSKreech_ | Don't say the cow isn't major in this chan :) |
| 15:37.54 | Jucato | It's quite impossible for KDE to track all distros using KDE, so imho it's on the part of the distros to start the communication ball rolling. |
| 15:38.03 | annma | lol daSKreech_ |
| 15:38.07 | lilltiger | annma: true, but i thought thoes was the most "kde" friendly distros (except for kubuntu) most others use gnome.. but maybe i just have tried the wrong ones :) |
| 15:38.08 | Jucato | (of course we already know about the major distros) |
| 15:38.27 | daSKreech_ | lilltiger: suse and mandriva are both KDE focused distros |
| 15:38.37 | daSKreech_ | Debian gentoo and moreso fedora are agnostic |
| 15:39.05 | annma | I was quite pleased by Fedora KDE |
| 15:39.16 | Jucato | lilltiger: gentoo's split ebuilds caused terrible support problems in here. I'm imagining kdemod as well. KDE can't also always know about the (sometimes massive) changes one distro makes, unless those distro inform KDE of them |
| 15:39.18 | annma | very vanilla, very neat |
| 15:39.27 | lilltiger | daSKreech_: ohh, i thought suse was gnome, hehe im falling behind in distrowatch :D |
| 15:40.01 | annma | also Xandros |
| 15:40.01 | annma | the EeePC |
| 15:40.01 | daSKreech_ | annma: well it's trying to be debian so it's kinda hard for it not to be agnostic over the long term |
| 15:40.01 | annma | taht's KDE all the way, even KHangMan! |
| 15:40.01 | Jucato | lilltiger: Novell/openSUSE has both and supports/funds both |
| 15:40.19 | cb400f | lilltiger: openSUSE has >70% kde users.. 22% gnome |
| 15:40.21 | daSKreech_ | ponders the eeePC as a distro |
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| 15:40.37 | annma | the EeePC has Xandros as distro |
| 15:40.39 | Jucato | daSKreech_: annma meant Xandros on the eePC :) |
| 15:40.42 | Jucato | Eee PC |
| 15:40.45 | annma | yup |
| 15:40.52 | Jucato | although it's not pure KDE |
| 15:41.03 | annma | not pure,no but widespread KDE |
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| 15:41.06 | Jucato | it doesn't use KWin or KDM (no login manager actually) |
| 15:41.11 | daSKreech_ | Yeah but if you wanna talk about kustomizing KDE that would be the culprit to put a spotlight on right there |
| 15:41.13 | Jucato | and old KDE iirc |
| 15:41.16 | daSKreech_ | not counting RHEL :) |
| 15:41.25 | lilltiger | Jucato: well hopefully the kdemod users arent asking questions here, as it's quite heavaly modded.. And a bit buggy.. |
| 15:41.37 | daSKreech_ | lilltiger: can't stop them from asking |
| 15:41.51 | daSKreech_ | also can't stop us from saying #yourdistro |
| 15:41.54 | daSKreech_ | :-) |
| 15:41.59 | Jucato | lilltiger: yeah kdemod hasn't been much of a problem here. sabayon was probablythe most annoying offender :) |
| 15:42.07 | Jucato | but that's all in the past |
| 15:42.16 | daSKreech_ | has anyone spoken to them about that policy? |
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| 15:42.29 | daSKreech_ | or have they changed that now |
| 15:42.31 | Jucato | who's "them" and which policy> |
| 15:42.55 | daSKreech_ | sabayon and having all the users dump into #kde instead of #sabayon |
| 15:43.04 | lilltiger | true, and thats what I ment with missing communication.. ie in kdemod it all about modding kde.. not making proper fixes.. :( |
| 15:43.05 | Jucato | yes I think so |
| 15:43.34 | Jucato | lilltiger: again, as I mentioned above, the onus is on the distributor really |
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| 15:44.08 | annma | the #sabayon #kde channel stuff was fixed iirc |
| 15:44.25 | Jucato | I presumed so, since we rarely have sabayon visitors :) |
| 15:44.29 | annma | I think I went there to deal with that, enough said!!! |
| 15:44.45 | daSKreech_ | Phear the stick! |
| 15:45.15 | lilltiger | Jucato: yes, and I dident say or claim or in any way ment it to be KDE fault. I just thought most distros was like that, using kde making thire own changes without caring about supplying proper patches to kde. |
| 15:45.50 | Jucato | <lilltiger> it feels like kde has quite poor support/communication with the different distros <--- sorry, but that's how it sounded :) |
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| 15:46.27 | Jucato | when you say "foo has poor support for..." that usually means foo has/should have the responsibility to do that. :) |
| 15:46.33 | lilltiger | Jucato: ahh sorry, true it sounds a bit like that now when i read it |
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| 15:47.16 | Jucato | community dynamics... it really is.. um.. "dynamic" :) |
| 15:47.22 | daSKreech_ | My opinion is that KDE is far too flexible |
| 15:48.03 | Jucato | you say it as if it were a bad thing :) |
| 15:48.37 | daSKreech_ | It is :-) |
| 15:49.41 | Jucato | not yet flexible enough.. we haven't touched on the next frontier yet |
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| 15:51.47 | daSKreech_ | Where the sidewalk is powered by KDE? |
| 15:52.29 | Jucato | :P |
| 15:53.27 | daSKreech_ | shows Jucato the video of the MS windows powered sidewalk |
| 15:53.30 | lilltiger | The "worse" thing with kde imo is that some of the "important" applications are buggy/incompleat. Like Kopete, but then it's an extragear app.. |
| 15:53.40 | Jucato | kopete isn't extragear |
| 15:53.45 | lilltiger | it isent? |
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| 15:53.48 | lilltiger | thought it was |
| 15:53.49 | daSKreech_ | Kopete isn't extragear |
| 15:53.49 | Jucato | kdenetwork |
| 15:53.53 | daSKreech_ | it just needs love |
| 15:53.58 | daSKreech_ | very small team :( |
| 15:54.05 | jpatrick | daSKreech_: like everything? |
| 15:54.12 | daSKreech_ | jpatrick: sorry? |
| 15:54.17 | Jucato | you have to take a lot of factors into consideration |
| 15:54.20 | lilltiger | well it have plenty of lovers, just no one that stays throught the day :D |
| 15:54.21 | jpatrick | daSKreech_: "needs love" |
| 15:54.24 | daSKreech_ | nope |
| 15:54.25 | Jucato | daSKreech_: everything needs love |
| 15:54.28 | daSKreech_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:54.35 | daSKreech_ | Plasma has love too |
| 15:54.40 | daSKreech_ | Koffice needs love |
| 15:54.48 | daSKreech_ | same with kopete |
| 15:54.56 | jpatrick | same with everything :) |
| 15:54.58 | Jucato | needs love :( |
| 15:55.20 | daSKreech_ | loves the love of Jucato |
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| 15:55.58 | lilltiger | If I could afford it I would have fixed up kopete and it's msn support.. |
| 15:56.27 | daSKreech_ | well you have two ways to pay |
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| 15:58.03 | lilltiger | I ment as I would have fixed it myself, more then enought capable. But cant afford working for free right now |
| 15:58.27 | daSKreech_ | coughs. gSoC |
| 15:58.28 | Daniel-S-P | hi folks.. small but annoying kde-problem.. whenever i change keyboard-settings, kde crashes and wont start until I delete the changed configs from .kde.. eg if i want to activate numpad on start, kde will onlky start, if i delete kcminputrc |
| 15:58.49 | lilltiger | daSKreech_: if I only where a student.. |
| 15:59.18 | daSKreech_ | I wonder if the College of Life counts... |
| 15:59.32 | lilltiger | dont think so :) |
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| 16:00.07 | lilltiger | Im having a hard time to get enought intresting work for my own company to make a living :( |
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| 16:00.56 | Jucato | right time for the offtopic dialogue to stop and pay attention to the question :) |
| 16:01.03 | Jucato | (slightly offtopic |
| 16:01.44 | jpatrick | #kde-cafe |
| 16:02.06 | Jucato | :P |
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| 16:03.30 | lilltiger | Daniel-S-P: check the ownership on the files |
| 16:03.46 | Daniel-S-P | all mine :) |
| 16:03.58 | lilltiger | Daniel-S-P: even after you saved the new settings? |
| 16:04.08 | Daniel-S-P | kcminputrc crash seems wacom related somehow.. |
| 16:04.19 | Daniel-S-P | yes |
| 16:05.29 | lilltiger | can you post an working config for keyboard-settings and the non working one to an pastbin? |
| 16:07.36 | Daniel-S-P | this would be kxkbrc? |
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| 16:08.19 | lilltiger | Daniel-S-P: Well the configs you need to delete to make it work again |
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| 16:17.48 | Daniel-S-P | lilltiger: is basically just activating xkb |
| 16:18.42 | Daniel-S-P | removing kxkbrc makes kde start again |
| 16:19.23 | lilltiger | Daniel-S-P: try t make an totaly new user login with it and activate the same settings. If same thing happens then it's probly something wrong with your install |
| 16:23.06 | daSKreech_ | it's like using hot coffee to sell GTA |
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| 16:23.15 | daSKreech_ | you are not getting what is advertised to you |
| 16:23.26 | daSKreech_ | bah |
| 16:23.34 | lilltiger | ? |
| 16:23.44 | lilltiger | wrong window? :D |
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| 16:23.59 | daSKreech_ | having a discussion in another window about false advertising |
| 16:24.09 | lilltiger | :) |
| 16:24.10 | daSKreech_ | Vista likes to pop up random windows for some reason |
| 16:24.26 | Sput | who is using vista? O_o |
| 16:24.33 | daSKreech_ | raises hand |
| 16:24.47 | lilltiger | Vista is a reason enought for stuff to not be as they should |
| 16:25.04 | daSKreech_ | preach my friend preach |
| 16:25.17 | oGALAXYo | heh |
| 16:25.19 | lilltiger | aa it's OT |
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| 16:25.55 | Daniel-S-P | lilltiger: test-user crashes, too .. ^^ |
| 16:25.57 | daSKreech_ | Ok back on topic |
| 16:26.05 | daSKreech_ | <PROTECTED> |
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| 16:26.47 | lilltiger | Daniel-S-P: wich distro are you using, and what version of kde? |
| 16:27.20 | Daniel-S-P | sidux/debian sid with 3.5.9.. but i had this with 3.5.8 too |
| 16:27.26 | iuso | hi, i've noticed that something has changed on my desktop wrt. pasting lines in Kate. when pasting a block of text, the cursor used to move to the end of the pasted selection. now it only moves to the end of the first pasted line. i couldn't find a setting for in in Kate's preferences. what gives? |
| 16:27.38 | iuso | (KDE 3.5.9) |
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| 16:29.11 | lilltiger | iuso: are you using kdemod by any chance? |
| 16:29.16 | iuso | lilltiger: kdemod? |
| 16:29.21 | lilltiger | guess not :) |
| 16:29.24 | iuso | no :) |
| 16:29.54 | lilltiger | iuso: i have the same issue thought it was related to kdemod guess not.. |
| 16:29.54 | iuso | lilltiger: actually, i'm sorry. this is not a KDE desktop, it's an Openbox one. but i use Kate as my editor |
| 16:30.10 | iuso | lilltiger: could it somehow be related to some KDevelop setting? i use that too |
| 16:30.19 | iuso | (KDevelop uses Kate as its editor) |
| 16:31.05 | Jucato | iuso: happens to me too it seems. |
| 16:31.08 | lilltiger | iuso: i dont think so, i got this issue after upgrading to latest kde. before it worked as it should in both kate an kdev |
| 16:31.22 | iuso | Jucato: so it could be Source Mage related |
| 16:31.36 | iuso | lilltiger: oh, it's a 3.5.9 issue then? |
| 16:31.46 | Jucato | lilltiger seems to be experiencing it too |
| 16:31.50 | iuso | ok... |
| 16:32.00 | daSKreech_ | lilltiger: you could hang out in #kopete |
| 16:32.03 | Jucato | might be a regression |
| 16:32.14 | lilltiger | Daniel-S-P: ask in #distro if smeone else have that same issue, cos it works for me in kde 3.5.9 |
| 16:32.17 | daSKreech_ | you may be surprised how much 5-15 minutes a day coding can get done |
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| 16:32.52 | Daniel-S-P | im searching, thx |
| 16:32.55 | lilltiger | daSKreech_: Well right now thoes 5-15mins goes into my own project, KDE Priority Handler |
| 16:33.28 | daSKreech_ | never heard of it |
| 16:33.31 | daSKreech_ | what's it do? |
| 16:33.53 | lilltiger | Daniel-S-P: also check if there is an update to kde, might have been something wrong with your last update |
| 16:34.19 | lilltiger | daSKreech_: it provides a nice way to handle nice levels off applications |
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| 16:35.23 | daSKreech_ | ? |
| 16:35.33 | lilltiger | http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/KDE+Priority+handler?content=66266 |
| 16:36.06 | lilltiger | nice levels are how much the kernel sheduler should favour the application |
| 16:37.19 | Daniel-S-P | lilltiger: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=462243 |
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| 16:37.37 | daSKreech_ | lilltiger: visual renicer? |
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| 16:38.33 | lilltiger | Daniel-S-P: try the solutions given there |
| 16:39.07 | Daniel-S-P | unplugging the tablet is no option.. ;) |
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| 16:39.52 | lilltiger | daSKreech_: yes, and it renice the app after your preferences. Like if you set konquerer to nice 15, evrytime after that it will be reniced to 15 if my app is runing |
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| 16:40.41 | daSKreech_ | watches a Thin Blue Line marathon |
| 16:41.00 | lilltiger | Daniel-S-P: what if you unplug it start then plugg it in? |
| 16:41.20 | Daniel-S-P | that doesnt work with x |
| 16:41.43 | Daniel-S-P | has to be plugged on startup |
| 16:42.07 | lilltiger | ohh hmm |
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| 16:43.35 | lilltiger | Daniel-S-P: not sure if there is anything else to do then to wait for it to resolv it self |
| 16:43.48 | lilltiger | ie someone fixing the bug |
| 16:43.51 | Daniel-S-P | yes.. |
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| 16:44.15 | Daniel-S-P | well, at least i know what makes kde crash.. ;) |
| 16:44.32 | lilltiger | it's not kde, it's the xserver |
| 16:45.05 | Daniel-S-P | sure |
| 16:45.26 | lilltiger | https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14162 |
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| 16:49.19 | lilltiger | Daniel-S-P: it should be fixed in the xorg trunk |
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| 16:51.07 | lilltiger | Daniel-S-P: you could try to get xkb from the xorg gir-repo and use that.. but is a bt tricky and might not work with your xorg version.. |
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| 16:51.22 | Daniel-S-P | i'll wait.. ;) |
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| 16:52.18 | lilltiger | :) |
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| 16:57.35 | airer-girl | my kicker disappeared what do i do? |
| 16:57.44 | airer-girl | it wont come out of hiding :( |
| 16:58.06 | thiago_home | are you sure it's still running? |
| 16:58.09 | thiago_home | check ps and dcop |
| 16:58.10 | airer-girl | yes |
| 16:58.14 | airer-girl | my bottom kicker works |
| 16:58.16 | airer-girl | it comes out of hiding |
| 16:58.59 | airer-girl | $ dcop |
| 16:58.59 | airer-girl | kwin |
| 16:58.59 | airer-girl | kicker |
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| 17:08.17 | rjent | Greetings, I am having trouble with kdm on debian/lenny with xdmcp, namely the server shows up in a chooser list then when I select it I just get the grey screen. Any ideas? |
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| 17:15.28 | artie | hi |
| 17:15.30 | artie | i'm non kde-4.0.2 and i don't have any desktop |
| 17:15.32 | artie | i mean ... the whole screen is black |
| 17:15.34 | artie | but i can run programs |
| 17:15.36 | artie | using alt+f2 |
| 17:15.40 | artie | and work normally with them |
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| 17:16.13 | artie | but ... no desktop .... no "kicker" |
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| 17:16.42 | Nielsen | artie: run kdesktop |
| 17:17.19 | fale | hi |
| 17:17.32 | artie | kdesktop? |
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| 17:18.08 | artie | don't have anything like this |
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| 17:28.46 | dwinslow | artista_frustrad: in kde 4 the desktop and panels are provided by plasma |
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| 17:28.59 | dwinslow | (oops, that was for artie) |
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| 17:33.51 | artie | how can i make the keyboard layout actually work |
| 17:34.00 | artie | i now wanna use the romanian layout |
| 17:34.04 | artie | i added it |
| 17:34.08 | artie | switching works |
| 17:34.11 | artie | but no difference |
| 17:34.21 | artie | i don't have the special characters |
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| 17:35.29 | annma | artie: you chose Romanian in KControlCenter |
| 17:35.50 | artie | yep |
| 17:35.59 | jetsaredim | aseigo: saw your post re: multiscreen X... I have a dual 21" setup with nvidia+twinview if testing is needed |
| 17:36.03 | annma | does any other keyboard work then? |
| 17:36.15 | artie | what do you mean ? |
| 17:36.44 | artie | oh ... let me check that |
| 17:37.19 | artie | yeah |
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| 17:37.21 | artie | :(( |
| 17:37.24 | artie | german works |
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| 17:50.11 | aseigo | jetsaredim: testing isn't so much the issue anymore.. it's fixing the crap we're discovering is fundamentally broken underneath us ;) |
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| 17:51.00 | jetsaredim | awesome |
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| 18:04.10 | aseigo | jetsaredim: not sure i'd describe it as 'awesome' given how much is broken in x.org and the window manager worlds ;) |
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| 18:05.12 | jetsaredim | yes, awesome in the "please hit me with a large heavy object" awesome |
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| 18:05.18 | jetsaredim | ;) |
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| 18:07.07 | aseigo | hehe.. exactly |
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| 18:16.14 | daSKreech_ | annma: ping |
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| 18:18.22 | Seraphim | Anyone here uses KDE 4? |
| 18:18.30 | aseigo | sure |
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| 18:22.46 | lilltiger | aseigo: well at least it's possible to get stuff fixed in x.org.. compared to xfree86 :) |
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| 18:23.36 | airer-girl | my pc froze and now kde is reset to default,where can i check for error log? |
| 18:24.12 | aseigo | lilltiger: heh. which is sort of like saying that "well, at least in the USA there's democracy so you can change governmental policy..." |
| 18:24.35 | aseigo | lilltiger: sure, it's possible but it takes a certain amount of Right Stuff(tm) in practice |
| 18:24.40 | lilltiger | airer-girl: depends on your systemlogger but usaly in /var/log/ |
| 18:24.48 | aseigo | notes that some of the x.org developers are still pretty ... resistent to logic and reason |
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| 18:25.20 | lilltiger | aseigo: yhee, and an "fix" migt be an fix for something else never reported while leving the reorted error untoched |
| 18:25.23 | airer-girl | well i see logs in /var/log but what od i look at? |
| 18:26.12 | airer-girl | blah brb |
| 18:26.38 | lilltiger | airer-girl: xorg log, and xsessionlog in your home dir, and well all of the relevant logs in var/log/ can be anything :) |
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| 18:29.33 | lilltiger | aseigo: I belive it's somekinda illness that spred throught old open source projects. Like the kernel, wine, x.org.. |
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| 18:31.21 | jetsaredim | its a DEC thing ;) |
| 18:31.36 | aseigo | x.org is 20-something years old, kernel is 17-ish, wine is 14.. kde is 12 ... |
| 18:31.39 | aseigo | jetsaredim: hehe |
| 18:31.43 | aseigo | ah, DEC |
| 18:31.48 | aseigo | fond memories. |
| 18:31.52 | jetsaredim | used to work at an old DEC facility |
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| 18:31.57 | DanielW | whats wrong with the kernel? |
| 18:32.14 | lilltiger | what is DEC? |
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| 18:32.23 | aseigo | digital equiopment corporation |
| 18:32.28 | lilltiger | aseigo: so in 2-years KE will be as stubborn to changes :p |
| 18:32.32 | aseigo | bought by compaq and thoroughly raped |
| 18:32.36 | jetsaredim | indeed |
| 18:32.38 | aseigo | lilltiger: hehe ;0 |
| 18:32.42 | lilltiger | ohh |
| 18:33.11 | aseigo | lilltiger: actually, i think one of the ways kde avoids it is by having new blood "at the top" |
| 18:33.22 | lilltiger | "No it's not a bug, it's a feature." :D |
| 18:33.24 | aseigo | lilltiger: the problem people in x.org have been there for 15+ years, e.g. |
| 18:33.46 | jetsaredim | aseigo: don't hurt yourself reaching around for that pat on the back ;) |
| 18:33.53 | aseigo | the linux kernel 'mood' (which is what i see as the hardest thing) comes from their older people |
| 18:33.56 | lilltiger | Yes, and ingo does alot for the kernel :) |
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| 18:34.08 | aseigo | etc... |
| 18:34.15 | jetsaredim | lot of the people at RH that work on the kernel are ex-DEC |
| 18:34.19 | aseigo | i think there's a lot to be said for having flexibility in leadership roles. |
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| 18:34.37 | jetsaredim | they used to work on the Tru64 UNIX kernel |
| 18:34.43 | jetsaredim | a lot of them at least |
| 18:34.57 | jetsaredim | pines for Alpha processors |
| 18:35.07 | aseigo | jetsaredim: mm.. indeed.. |
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| 18:35.36 | jetsaredim | my first KDE install was on alpha |
| 18:35.51 | aseigo | really? cool -) |
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| 18:36.02 | maki_d | the kernel, x.org, wine and ... need to be a lot more conservative than KDE or other DE's ... |
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| 18:36.12 | lilltiger | Would actually be intresting to see the KDE team at work |
| 18:36.16 | aseigo | that unix flavour went through so many rebrandings too |
| 18:36.26 | jetsaredim | yea for sure |
| 18:36.33 | aseigo | maki_d: kernel i can agree with |
| 18:36.39 | jetsaredim | i used to work on the cluster software for Tru64 |
| 18:36.51 | aseigo | maki_d: wine, well.. they have a strong external definition they need to abide by, sure |
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| 18:37.06 | lilltiger | maki_d: well wine was konservative untill just recently in the last year wine has progressed more then in like five years before that |
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| 18:37.16 | aseigo | maki_d: but x.org? erg. they need to be a lot *less* conservative and lot more forward thinking... |
| 18:37.26 | aseigo | maki_d: as a whole, that is. there are some bright lights in there, no doubt |
| 18:37.31 | Seraphim | aseigo - Do you like it? Is it still very buggy? |
| 18:37.42 | jetsaredim | wasn't that the reason they split off from XFree in the first place? |
| 18:37.44 | aseigo | maki_d: but as a project it's very, very off the rails imo |
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| 18:37.49 | aseigo | Seraphim: do i like what? |
| 18:37.54 | Seraphim | KDE 4 |
| 18:38.22 | lilltiger | jetsaredim: different from stagnant and backward striving to conservative :) |
| 18:38.22 | aseigo | jetsaredim: well .. sort of. the problem wasn't so much conservatism but the lack of being able to get anything done due to the control structure not reflecting the contributor pool |
| 18:38.29 | reggaemon55 | I would like to configure my wireless card and have typed "iwconfig | nopaste" into konsole |
| 18:38.36 | reggaemon55 | I don't know what to do with the url |
| 18:38.48 | aseigo | Seraphim: i use it daily for work *shrug* |
| 18:38.56 | Seraphim | really? |
| 18:38.59 | Seraphim | No annoying bugs? |
| 18:39.09 | maki_d | aseigo: yeah, x.org needs to do some stuff like support for metisse like window managment by default .... |
| 18:39.15 | lilltiger | Seraphim: im sure aseigo will only say bad things about KDE 4, he is totaly against it :p |
| 18:39.19 | lilltiger | mwahaha |
| 18:39.22 | Sput | :D |
| 18:39.27 | Sput | grabs some popcorn |
| 18:39.31 | aseigo | Seraphim: there are always annoying bugs, but generally i'm satisfied. then again, i'm a kde developer, so.. ;) |
| 18:39.37 | aseigo | lilltiger: you know it. fuck that kde. |
| 18:39.38 | reggaemon55 | I would like to start using my wireless |
| 18:39.45 | aseigo | stomps on konqi. |
| 18:39.46 | reggaemon55 | but I can for some unknown reason |
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| 18:39.58 | daSKreech_ | Seraphim: I reinstalled my Work computer with it |
| 18:40.00 | aseigo | reggaemon55: have you tried knetworkmanager? |
| 18:40.05 | reggaemon55 | yes |
| 18:40.09 | Seraphim | well, I tried it very close to its release date... and the most annoying bug was that the K menu didn't open when click alt+F1. |
| 18:40.12 | Seraphim | Only with the mouse. |
| 18:40.13 | airer-girl | hi so, i need help, after my pc froze and i rebooted, now my kde is notably slower, why and what can i do? |
| 18:40.21 | lilltiger | aseigo: yhee lets merge kde and gnome! kgnome will be the future, scrap usability and fucos only on one klick to do evrything! |
| 18:40.22 | daSKreech_ | and I'm on 4.0 which is supposed to be buggier than trunk |
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| 18:40.41 | daSKreech_ | Seraphim: ah right Yeah I cry when that happens |
| 18:40.49 | dwinslow | airer-girl: you can use top or ksysguard to try and identify what processes are using a lot of CPU |
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| 18:41.01 | aseigo | lilltiger: hehe.. no actualy functionality, but lots of configuration dialogs? ;-P |
| 18:41.08 | airer-girl | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:41.11 | airer-girl | thats it |
| 18:41.22 | Sput | is quite happy with KDE4-trunk, especially since now most of the Qt 4.4 regressions seem to have been fixed |
| 18:41.25 | aseigo | gives seraphim alt-f2 |
| 18:41.32 | Seraphim | :)_ |
| 18:41.45 | reggaemon55 | What is the newest distribution of Linux that is available? |
| 18:41.49 | lilltiger | aseigo: but all they need is one click, over and over and over again.. but just one click :) |
| 18:41.51 | aseigo | Seraphim: no, seriously. alt-f2 is a lot more useful in kde4 than kde3. e.g. type "fox<enter>" and firefox starts. |
| 18:41.59 | Seraphim | aseigo - What linux distro are you using? |
| 18:42.02 | aseigo | lilltiger: ahahahaa. indeed. |
| 18:42.06 | aseigo | Seraphim: opensuse 10.3 atm |
| 18:42.12 | Seraphim | hmmmmm.... |
| 18:42.18 | Seraphim | Haven't used suse for years! |
| 18:42.24 | maki_d | KDE4 is great now, i miss only some litle things from KDE3 .... |
| 18:42.25 | aseigo | Seraphim: i compile from sources, though, since i work on it |
| 18:42.32 | Seraphim | I've been mostly a fedora user. And now I also installed gentoo. |
| 18:42.38 | aseigo | Seraphim: yeah, i went back just in january myself |
| 18:42.58 | Seraphim | I'm using gentoo mostly now.. I like the idea of optimizing everything for my CPU. |
| 18:42.58 | daSKreech_ | reggaemon55: go to distrowatch.com click on the distro at the top of the list in the middle column. Enjoy |
| 18:43.02 | aseigo | Seraphim: seems they have technical issues back under control again (10.0-2 were just . trainwrecks *sob*) |
| 18:43.05 | Seraphim | Not that it's evident in most cases... |
| 18:43.17 | Seraphim | aseigo - What technical issue? |
| 18:43.19 | lilltiger | Does AMSN work in kde4 now without reandomly making the X server crash :) |
| 18:43.22 | daSKreech_ | maki_d: What do you miss? |
| 18:43.29 | aseigo | Seraphim: little things like .. you know .. it actually working :) |
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| 18:43.53 | aseigo | Seraphim: 10.0 didn't even have packages for postgres available, foisted beagle in all the wrong places imho, had horrible, horrible software update management |
| 18:43.55 | Seraphim | aseigo - Where you work - you don't use windows? |
| 18:44.11 | aseigo | Seraphim: it just wasn't up to the usual suse scratch after being novellized. but it seems things are back on track these days. |
| 18:44.22 | Sput | what is this windows you speak of? |
| 18:44.23 | daSKreech_ | chuckles at that question |
| 18:44.27 | aseigo | Seraphim: heh. absolutely not. i work on kde. it's what i get paid to do =) |
| 18:44.35 | Seraphim | aseigo - ?!@?# |
| 18:44.44 | Seraphim | I didn't know you could get paid working on KDE. |
| 18:44.44 | aseigo | it's a brave new world. |
| 18:44.46 | maki_d | daSKreech_: move to, copy to in dolphin, more stuff in Actions menu, a systemsettings module for plasma themes. |
| 18:44.58 | Seraphim | aseigo - Who pays you to work on that? |
| 18:45.03 | lilltiger | aseigo is one of the lucky few :) |
| 18:45.09 | maki_d | But i'm surre they will be here in KDE 4.1 |
| 18:45.21 | aseigo | Seraphim: i guess these days Nokia, since they have picked up Trolltech |
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| 18:45.46 | daSKreech_ | system settings is missing a lot |
| 18:45.50 | aseigo | lilltiger: well, there's more and more of us. ~30% of commits come from paid hands these days (cool that we're still 70% volunteer though) |
| 18:45.52 | daSKreech_ | and what's there is kinda buggy |
| 18:46.00 | daSKreech_ | but it's coming along nicely :) |
| 18:46.14 | Seraphim | hmmmm... wait... how do you get paid? what company/organization do you work for directly? |
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| 18:46.26 | aseigo | maki_d: well, i really don't want the plasma themes to end up in systemsettings, tbh. if anything, it should tag along with the widgets themes, which ought to be coordinated with colours and window decos imho... |
| 18:46.28 | lilltiger | First battle id like Finland & Norway to win over Sweden & the world |
| 18:46.40 | aseigo | maki_d: theme config is, anyways, available in Configure Desktop within plasma |
| 18:46.44 | aseigo | maki_d: so there's a UI now. =) |
| 18:46.45 | daSKreech_ | Seraphim: trolltech I think |
| 18:46.55 | aseigo | maki_d: we're adding GHNS support to it too |
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| 18:47.01 | Seraphim | You think? You don't know who you're working for? |
| 18:47.04 | aseigo | Seraphim: trolltech,yes. |
| 18:47.04 | daSKreech_ | loves GHNS |
| 18:47.18 | Seraphim | And they pay you to work on KDE? |
| 18:47.29 | daSKreech_ | Seraphim: I think he gets paid in money. So probably not in US |
| 18:47.36 | maki_d | aseigo: the theme config will have the option to mix themes ? |
| 18:48.00 | aseigo | Seraphim: other companies that pay kde people include the likes of intevation, creadativ, KDAB, novell, canonical, xandros, .. the list gets pretty long |
| 18:48.02 | _fang | hello! i'm searching for an app just like cpuload and knetload, but that shows me the memload! is there any like that? i use 3.5.8 debian testing. thanks in advance |
| 18:48.03 | maki_d | like, panel backround from here, widget background from there ... |
| 18:48.07 | lilltiger | aseigo: 30% thats alot considering the size of the project. Quite much money that goes into the project in form of sallery. |
| 18:48.19 | aseigo | maki_d: no, we'll eventually offer a theme packager to do that though.. |
| 18:48.22 | Seraphim | aseigo - and why would they pay you to wokr on open source software? |
| 18:48.43 | aseigo | Seraphim: would you believe ... because i'm sexy? ;) |
| 18:48.50 | Seraphim | Not really. |
| 18:49.04 | aseigo | Seraphim: seriously though, each of those companies derive revenue in some way or another from KDE |
| 18:49.05 | SSJ_GZ | lol |
| 18:49.17 | lilltiger | Seraphim: Novell earns money on it by providing support for thire linux. And so one.. |
| 18:49.31 | daSKreech_ | aseigo: I don't believe you |
| 18:49.39 | daSKreech_ | They couldn't afford it |
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| 18:49.47 | aseigo | Seraphim: there are various avenues by which that happens (development contracts, product sales, etc) but there's a growing industry around this stuff |
| 18:49.49 | Seraphim | aseigo - So who did you negotiate your salary with? |
| 18:50.00 | aseigo | Seraphim: my manager at Trolltech. |
| 18:50.21 | Seraphim | aseigo - So you work for Trolltech? |
| 18:50.21 | aseigo | same sort of person i imagine any person would, really.. "da boss" |
| 18:50.35 | aseigo | Seraphim: yes. (didn't i already say that like.. twice? =) |
| 18:51.00 | aseigo | ah, another source of revenue is research grants |
| 18:51.03 | Seraphim | At first you said "Probably Nokia since they bought Trolltech"... |
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| 18:51.06 | wstephenson | Seraphim: quite a few of us get paid to work on KDE. lots of dirty work to do. |
| 18:51.07 | daSKreech_ | Nepomuk :) |
| 18:51.08 | aseigo | we have some people that get paid via, e.g. EU research projects |
| 18:51.11 | wstephenson | ;) |
| 18:51.25 | aseigo | yep, wstephenson is a Noveller |
| 18:51.26 | daSKreech_ | loves nepomuk as well :) |
| 18:51.37 | aseigo | (one of the people who has helped rescue opensuse, i might add) |
| 18:51.39 | Seraphim | wstephenson - When you're saying "to work on KDE" - I'm imagining a guy, sitting at home, getting paid donation money to wokr on it... |
| 18:51.44 | kaminix^ | How do I remove chat history in Kopete so that it won't load when I open a new chat? |
| 18:51.49 | Seraphim | that's why I'm asking if you're actually holding a job at a company. |
| 18:51.51 | aseigo | Seraphim: no, wstephenson and i both get real salaries from real companies =) |
| 18:51.54 | daSKreech_ | Seraphim: hence him not having windows at work :) |
| 18:51.56 | lilltiger | Trolltech is great :) hopefully they will rework the threading in Qt to build/be like intels TBB lib. that would benefit KDE alot |
| 18:52.02 | maki_d | aseigo: i'm thinkg of something like changing the background picture for kicker, although it wouldn't be so usable since is better that the widgets look consistent with the panel .. |
| 18:52.04 | daSKreech_ | Work being home |
| 18:52.12 | aseigo | lilltiger: have you looked at the QtConcurrent stuff? |
| 18:52.17 | wstephenson | Seraphim: no, i have a real 9 to 5 job at Novell. |
| 18:52.22 | Seraphim | aseigo - And who/what determines your schedule and stuff you have to do on KDE? |
| 18:52.32 | Seraphim | wstephenson - oh, ok. |
| 18:52.36 | aseigo | Seraphim: that obviously is different from company to company... |
| 18:52.48 | aseigo | Seraphim: but for me personally, i do. |
| 18:52.49 | wstephenson | although KDE doesn't have as big a proportion of professional hackers as some other projects. |
| 18:52.52 | Seraphim | aseigo - But isn't KDE4 one, big open-source project? |
| 18:52.59 | wstephenson | which i think is a good thing - keeps us honest. |
| 18:53.03 | aseigo | wstephenson: agreed |
| 18:53.14 | lilltiger | aseigo: im about to, might have missed it, been doing som lower level developing for a few month so i havent realy kept up :) |
| 18:53.19 | daSKreech_ | Payment given upon completion of a Qt client for GIMP |
| 18:53.20 | aseigo | Seraphim: sure .. i'm not sure how those two things are mutually exclusive =) |
| 18:53.29 | DanielW | Seraphim: there are a lot other open source projects with paid developers on it |
| 18:53.43 | aseigo | lilltiger: ah.. yeah, it's been on blogs at labs.trolltech.com a few times now and you can grab the sources as usual =) |
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| 18:54.08 | daSKreech_ | wonders if this convo is a kandidate for #kde-cafe yet |
| 18:54.09 | Seraphim | aseigo - Well, isn't there a small core team that decides what gets in and what doesn't? or what to do next? |
| 18:54.13 | aseigo | Seraphim: f/oss is a set of development and distribution systems. it's not a monetization definition. |
| 18:54.25 | aseigo | Seraphim: ah, well, sure. in kde we have "maintainers" |
| 18:54.39 | aseigo | those people help provide oversight as to what occurs |
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| 18:54.53 | prs | Hi all. |
| 18:54.54 | Seraphim | aseigo - So could you give me an example fo what kind of stuff you work on in KDE? |
| 18:55.02 | aseigo | we have release maintainers, application maintainers, library maintainers, artwork maintainers, docs and translation maitnainers, etc, etc |
| 18:55.05 | prs | Is there any nice KDE's frontend for svn |
| 18:55.13 | aseigo | but we don't go around telling people what to do or what to work on. |
| 18:55.27 | prs | I mean for writing commits and see what changed in local repo since last commit. |
| 18:55.28 | aseigo | instead we tend to operate via consensus and cooperation |
| 18:55.52 | Seraphim | aseigo - well, I could go about writing something for KDE, that will never get in... or an application for KDE.. which is not really working ON KDE. |
| 18:56.16 | lilltiger | aseigo: very nice indeed, already in the main branch as well |
| 18:56.29 | daSKreech_ | Seraphim: Never get in? |
| 18:57.26 | wstephenson | Seraphim: most people start by writing applications for KDE |
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| 18:57.40 | wstephenson | then they find something on KDE they want to change, and it goes on from there.. |
| 18:57.55 | Seraphim | daSKreech_ - what if I want to develop a module for KDE that doesn't really fit into the big plan... they might not accept it into its source code. |
| 18:58.13 | daSKreech_ | Seraphim: So it's a module that's not desktop related? |
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| 18:58.36 | Seraphim | daSKreech_- could be and could be not... I'm just giving a very abstract example :0 |
| 18:58.51 | aseigo | prs: cervisia? |
| 18:58.51 | aseigo | Seraphim: these mostly plasma and various things in kdelibs ... i've also done work on ksnapshot, kjots, kicker, kcontrol, bits in konqueror, kontact, ... |
| 18:58.51 | aseigo | s,these,these days, |
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| 18:59.27 | daSKreech_ | Seraphim: a) you can make KDE apps that are not part of KDE b) you can have apps/modules in KDE svn that are not considered part of KDE so it's a very low likelihood that you can be stopped from adding something to the ecosystem |
| 18:59.45 | aseigo | ponders what the last thing he said that got seen here was.. and glares at his isp |
| 18:59.52 | prs | aseigo: Can it be associated with a svn repository and alert me when the file is changed? |
| 19:00.01 | daSKreech_ | <aseigo>s,these,these days, |
| 19:00.10 | Seraphim | asiego - You're using only gcc? |
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| 19:00.25 | daSKreech_ | Seraphim: KMymoney is a KDE app and it's not in the KDE code base at all |
| 19:00.28 | aseigo | prs: hm. i thought so, but i'm not sure that ever made it into the wild.. here's anothe rone: http://kdesvn.alwins-world.de/ |
| 19:00.34 | aseigo | Seraphim: i am, yes |
| 19:00.42 | aseigo | daSKreech_: ah, good, nothing missed then |
| 19:00.45 | Seraphim | aseigo - KDevelop? |
| 19:00.47 | daSKreech_ | Seraphim: and there is a section of KDE SVN where you can throw most anything |
| 19:00.49 | prs | aseigo: I'm downloadin 'kdesvn' right now. |
| 19:00.54 | aseigo | Seraphim: no. i'm a bit.. old school ;) |
| 19:01.01 | wstephenson | Seraphim: as an example: there is a usenet binary downloader called KLibido. will probably never be part of kde main modules, but it's used, on distributions, and part of the ecosystem. |
| 19:01.01 | aseigo | looks at his konsole with 20 tabs |
| 19:01.01 | Seraphim | aseigo - just vim? :) |
| 19:01.07 | daSKreech_ | It will not be shipped with KDE but it's there |
| 19:01.17 | aseigo | sometimes i use kwrite as well.. |
| 19:01.24 | Seraphim | hehehe... |
| 19:01.26 | texnofobix | i'm glad they fixed copy and paste on konsole |
| 19:01.30 | Seraphim | It's ok, I wish I could use vim now too! |
| 19:01.35 | daSKreech_ | coughs 'emacs' |
| 19:01.45 | lilltiger | prs: thought for a local repo id advice to use git insted of svn actually |
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| 19:01.48 | Seraphim | But since I'm writing C# these days... I'd better use the very heavy VS. |
| 19:01.54 | SSJ_GZ | Seraphim: Only takes a few years to learn ;) |
| 19:02.00 | daSKreech_ | aseigo: Saw the GSoC idea to have kate be modal? |
| 19:02.04 | Seraphim | SSJ_GZ - What takes a few years to learn? |
| 19:02.09 | aseigo | daSKreech_: no, i didn't |
| 19:02.11 | SSJ_GZ | Seraphim: vim :p |
| 19:02.18 | Seraphim | SSJ_GZ - Not really. |
| 19:02.22 | aseigo | SSJ_GZ: yeah, but once you're there.. oh man . =) |
| 19:02.26 | Seraphim | vim is awesome. |
| 19:02.38 | prs | lilltiger: I think i'm more familiar with svn than git. But is there any major features that make git > svn? |
| 19:02.38 | Seraphim | I think a few months and you're fine. |
| 19:02.43 | lilltiger | real men code with echo & sed! |
| 19:02.55 | SSJ_GZ | aseigo: Hehe - like an old monk finally attaining Enlightenment :) |
| 19:02.55 | texnofobix | lilltiger: why not edlin? |
| 19:02.59 | daSKreech_ | aseigo: http://techbase.kde.org/index.php?title=Projects/Summer_of_Code/2008/Ideas#Kate_and_KWrite |
| 19:03.36 | lilltiger | prs: naa, most a preferense, hought for a local repo git is extreamly easy to set up and use. |
| 19:03.37 | daSKreech_ | lilltiger: http://xkcd.com/378 |
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| 19:04.00 | lilltiger | daSKreech_: yhee read that already :) |
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| 19:04.26 | prs | lilltiger: mhm. I will look for some info about it. I heard some good things about git but acctually never tested it. |
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| 19:05.40 | lilltiger | prs: it's so easy to use so i tenda use it for most stuff, almost to the line of abusing it :) |
| 19:05.48 | _alcik_ | hello! |
| 19:06.12 | _alcik_ | Ive got a question about kde... |
| 19:06.31 | prs | lilltiger: gotta taste it. :P |
| 19:06.34 | daSKreech_ | ask! |
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| 19:06.58 | lilltiger | or wait till someone elses ask the same question. :) |
| 19:07.12 | _alcik_ | what makes konqueror to open window when I put some removable storage device like pendrive or usb disk |
| 19:07.52 | _alcik_ | I cant find that something which is doing it :-) |
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| 19:08.54 | lilltiger | HAL+dbus signals some kde event dispatcher, hmm what can it be called |
| 19:09.16 | _alcik_ | my problem is, that I added some entries into fstab that automagicly mount my pendrive's partisions always in the same mount point |
| 19:09.20 | _alcik_ | ...but.... |
| 19:09.41 | _alcik_ | konqueror opens some link in /media anyway |
| 19:09.51 | _alcik_ | is it configurable somehow? |
| 19:10.34 | lilltiger | KDED Media Manager(3.5.9), hmm yes it should be.. *looking for it* |
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| 19:11.48 | lilltiger | _alcik_: kcontrol center->Peripherals->Storage Media |
| 19:12.55 | lilltiger | Medium types: Unmounted/Mounted Removable Medium is usb |
| 19:13.13 | _alcik_ | lilltiger: hmm... i was already looking into it, but found nothing.... |
| 19:13.18 | aseigo | that's operating system dependant |
| 19:13.18 | aseigo | essentially, there's a kded plugin that idles in the background listening for hot plug events, usually from HAL |
| 19:13.18 | aseigo | HAL decides which to publish and which not to |
| 19:13.18 | aseigo | of course, you can always click that "don't ask me again" button in the kde dialog too |
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| 19:13.25 | _alcik_ | wait, I'll checj again |
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| 19:14.34 | lilltiger | aseigo: you just talk a bunch of nonsens so your ISP punish you :p |
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| 19:15.30 | _alcik_ | lilltiger: well, there is action open in new window (in my national language) but its not editable |
| 19:15.48 | lilltiger | _alcik_: you cant remove it? |
| 19:16.19 | lilltiger | ahjh |
| 19:16.30 | _alcik_ | aseigo: but it doesnt ask me, just opens it |
| 19:16.46 | lilltiger | _alcik_: you can add an custom, or toggle do nothing as auto action |
| 19:16.55 | aseigo | _alcik_: *konqueror* just opens it? interesting. it's not supposed to. that's likely a distribution customization then |
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| 19:17.18 | lilltiger | aseigo: or he choose to always do that the first time he saw it |
| 19:17.19 | pedepy | eh my twitter plasmoid always has an empty field on top |
| 19:17.22 | _alcik_ | lilltiger: neither remove or change options for it |
| 19:17.23 | aseigo | _alcik_: you should be getting a window asking what you'd like to do with it first... and you can elect to ignore it |
| 19:17.27 | pedepy | is that a bug or what? |
| 19:17.31 | aseigo | lilltiger: ah, that's possible. |
| 19:17.45 | aseigo | pedepy: you mean the one where you can type a new tweat in? |
| 19:17.53 | lilltiger | _alcik_: press "Do nothing" and then press Toggle Auto Action |
| 19:18.05 | blameu | hi all what directory is konquerors pluggins found in |
| 19:18.07 | pedepy | we.ll .. i cant type |
| 19:18.19 | pedepy | i figured thats wet mehat it was for but it wont l |
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| 19:18.27 | pedepy | i figured thats what it was for but it wont let me |
| 19:18.33 | pedepy | damn mouse pad |
| 19:18.50 | pedepy | i think i needs to upgrade my plasma ........ |
| 19:19.03 | lilltiger | blameu: several different, you can find it in the settings->configure konq..->plugins |
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| 19:19.14 | blameu | thank you |
| 19:20.36 | _alcik_ | lilltiger: I cant remember if it asked me before... on the other side Im using the same home partition (and kde prefs) for years now :-) |
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| 19:21.34 | lilltiger | _alcik_: dosent matter, the open in konqueror was toggled as Auto Action, wich made it open the konqi window |
| 19:22.43 | lilltiger | _alcik_: some distros add thire own defaults and stuff, and the hade the same homewithout cleaning it also has it consequenses when updating kde, unfortunally |
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| 19:23.33 | lilltiger | _alcik_: so just add a new action and toggle it as auto action the get the behaviur you want |
| 19:23.41 | _alcik_ | lilltiger: it no so bad that it opens it, the thing that it opens it with some /media link instead of real mount point drives me crazy... this is what I want to change |
| 19:24.28 | lilltiger | _alcik_: ahh thats not as easy :( then you have to write/modify the dbus rules for it |
| 19:25.59 | _alcik_ | lilltiger: ok... I was expecting something like that... thank U very much for help anyway :-) best regards.... |
| 19:26.14 | lilltiger | _alcik_: but if you are lazy you can just let it mount in media and add an rule in the Storage Media to mount --bind it to another folder as well |
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| 19:27.03 | lilltiger | but then your user will have to be allowed to use mount --bind, or wrap the call with kdesu but that will require and password to be given |
| 19:27.58 | _alcik_ | lilltiger: hmmm... I'll try that for now... thx... |
| 19:28.13 | lilltiger | np, ill send the bill :) |
| 19:28.22 | blameu | lol |
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| 19:33.33 | pedepy | whats the absolute bare minimum needed to run kde3 apps within kde4? |
| 19:33.39 | pedepy | kdelibs & qt3? |
| 19:34.01 | annma | what app? |
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| 19:34.25 | annma | you need the app you want to run and your distro will manage the dependencies |
| 19:34.44 | wstephenson | i had a user question today i didn't know how to answer |
| 19:34.44 | pedepy | right |
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| 19:35.11 | wstephenson | it was "should openoffice be able to open files displayed in konqueror using the zip:// ioslave?" |
| 19:35.12 | AntonHB | KDE 4 ? for wich aim? |
| 19:35.14 | wstephenson | any takers? |
| 19:35.50 | annma | vanishes |
| 19:36.29 | daskreech | nooooooooooooo |
| 19:36.33 | benJIman | It can't, don't know whether it should. |
| 19:36.34 | daskreech | hunts annma |
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| 19:36.56 | qupada | wstephenson: maybe. depending on whether kde decompresses the file to /tmp and opens it from there or just passes zip://foo.odt to openoffice |
| 19:36.56 | AntonHB | ТÑÑ ÐºÑо на ÑÑÑÑком ÑазговаÑиваеÑ? |
| 19:36.59 | AntonHB | )) |
| 19:37.06 | lilltiger | wstephenson: if it wasent recently asked it's ok to ask again |
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| 19:37.24 | lilltiger | wstephenson: ohh sorry saw that you did it :9 |
| 19:37.26 | annma | reincarnates |
| 19:37.33 | benJIman | Not being able to open from http is annoying too. |
| 19:38.14 | lilltiger | wstephenson: I dont think so, as OO isent aware of ioslaves |
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| 19:40.50 | daskreech | annma: I'm confuzzled are you now someone else? Say Cleopatra? |
| 19:40.50 | annma | lol |
| 19:40.50 | annma | sure |
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| 19:40.52 | annma | someone powerful |
| 19:41.00 | qupada | hmm, actually i think it depends on how your OOo was compiled. on the machine i compiled it myself it appears to have full kde integration (actual kde file dialogues), could open a file using sftp:// direct, but it copied it locally, don't expect it to save it direct |
| 19:41.20 | qupada | however on the machine i used the official binary, no such luck |
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| 19:41.47 | lilltiger | qupada: do you use the kde-version of OO then? (if it still exsist) |
| 19:42.15 | lilltiger | or rather the kde wrappers for OO |
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| 19:42.48 | lilltiger | http://wiki.kde.org/tiki-index.php?page=KIO+Fuse+Gateway << this describes a way to do it using Fuse as an gateway |
| 19:42.53 | qupada | lilltiger: gentoo has a 'kde' USE flag on openoffice |
| 19:43.12 | qupada | in short i have very little idea what it is doing, all i know is it has desirable results |
| 19:43.56 | daskreech | annma: Rupert Murdoch? |
| 19:43.58 | lilltiger | qupada: when i used gentoo that flag brought in an version of OO that was kde-adepted, but that was 5 years ago |
| 19:44.05 | annma | daskreech: lol |
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| 19:50.12 | wstephenson | qupada: oo with kde integration will work in the file dialogs, but not when launching it with an ioslave uri. |
| 19:50.46 | wstephenson | in the case of programs like kmail and ark it is easy for them to copy the file into /tmp and delete when they exit |
| 19:50.54 | wstephenson | but for ioslaves, i'm not sure. |
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| 19:52.16 | SimAtWork | anyone here use compiz-fusion with kde 3.x ? |
| 19:52.24 | SimAtWork | i'm having a weird problem with the pager (in kicker) |
| 19:52.42 | SimAtWork | it comes up with one page.. ifi change it to 2, it shows me 10, then i change it back to 1 and i get teh 5 that should be there. |
| 19:53.04 | SimAtWork | i know it has something to do with compiz but i dunno how to make it work the first time |
| 19:53.17 | maki_d | SimAtWork: there is a patched pager & taskbar that work with compiz |
| 19:53.36 | SimAtWork | maki_d: oh! nice. |
| 19:53.47 | SimAtWork | maki_d: hopefully there is a use flag for that. thanks. i'mgonna go digging. |
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| 19:56.28 | lilltiger | wstephenson: the link i provided will enable that for OO |
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| 19:58.50 | maki_d | lilltiger: you can use kio/fuse for programs:/ settings:/ & other non file KIO slaves ? |
| 19:59.52 | lilltiger | maki_d: i dont know, i googled and found it :) |
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| 20:03.17 | wstephenson | lilltiger: thanks. i'm aware of the kio-fuse thing. but i was asking whether the general user expects ioslaves to 'just work' between KDE and non-kde apps and is disappointed, or if they get the difference. |
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| 20:04.53 | lilltiger | wstephenson: well isent dbus ment to replace it and be the freedestop.org general thingy for that |
| 20:05.18 | lilltiger | or will it only replace dcop |
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| 20:06.48 | wstephenson | lilltiger: the latter |
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| 20:10.45 | lilltiger | wstephenson: hmm a joint ioslave wouldent harm freedesktop hehe |
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| 20:55.56 | KRF | is it possible to disable that ftp login confirmation dialog when connecting to a ftp? |
| 20:56.35 | dwinslow | KRF: i believe it will not be shown if you include a valid user/pass combo in the URL |
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| 20:56.48 | dwinslow | ftp:/user:pass@server:port/path |
| 20:56.54 | KRF | dwinslow, i mean, i have the login credentials in kwallet already |
| 20:57.11 | KRF | when connecting it shows me that dialog although they're filled out already |
| 20:57.37 | KRF | i wanna hide that one ;) |
| 20:58.18 | KRF | i like the way konqueror connects to htpasswd'd sites, i want that for ftp stuff, too |
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| 21:00.43 | Moult | when I first installed KDE and ran it I went through KPersonalizer, how do I run it again? |
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| 21:01.02 | dwinslow | Moult: type 'kpersonalizer' into a shell or the run dialog |
| 21:01.37 | Moult | dwinslow thank you |
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| 21:08.40 | jmut | wonder where I can see relational db representation of kalarm recurring events and all. Kind of want to implement such functionality ... any clue where I can look into how it's done. |
| 21:09.27 | Moult | i love firefox, but at the same time i love konqueror as a multitasker, what do i do? ;) |
| 21:10.14 | daskreech | Moult: open tow programs ? |
| 21:10.15 | daskreech | two |
| 21:10.53 | Moult | daskreech why, of course :) |
| 21:11.21 | dwinslow | Moult: if you're feeling particularly ambitious you can make a gecko kpart (good luck) |
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| 21:12.28 | Moult | in konqueror I made the backspace key a shortcut to go back one file because i'm used to it. however, when i open a shell in konqueror, i'm typing something, then all of a sudden press the backspace key - it goes back a file and inserts a cd /new/dir/whatever into the shell, what do i do? |
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| 21:17.14 | Ze_M | konqueror doesnt correctly display webpage euronext.com, can anyone check? |
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| 21:20.41 | Ze_M | aseigo: ping |
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| 21:41.28 | pinotree | Ze_M: please don't open the same bug reports again (especially if already reported by you) |
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| 21:43.27 | Chipsa964 | is there a version of kopete that i can use in ubuntu that supports video chat with AIM users? |
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| 22:01.17 | juvene | oi |
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| 22:02.00 | jpatrick | juvene: welcome |
| 22:02.44 | juvene | olá, você fala português? |
| 22:03.34 | Ze_M | pinotree: didnt remembered that already was there a bug opened and by me |
| 22:03.51 | juvene | não consigo instalar a placa de video nvidia fx5500 no fedora core 8 |
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| 22:05.15 | Ze_M | juvene: isto e um canal onde de fala inglês |
| 22:05.24 | Ze_M | an english channel |
| 22:05.25 | aseigo | juvene: you probably want the fedora channel, or a portguese linux channel |
| 22:05.50 | aseigo | notes there are .br channels that are quite active as well |
| 22:06.10 | juvene | ok :-( |
| 22:06.21 | Ze_M | aseigo: is it possible to fix bug http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=159550 |
| 22:07.14 | Ze_M | aseigo: ups, the correct bug number is http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=155307 since the other si a duplicate |
| 22:07.43 | aseigo | Ze_M: i don't work on khtml. |
| 22:08.01 | Ze_M | ok |
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| 22:14.05 | juvene | bye, good night |
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| 22:38.22 | joan | is there any irc app for kde 4? |
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| 22:46.17 | george__ | someone has a server list 4 amule ? |
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| 22:48.03 | fale | george__: you are OT |
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| 22:49.16 | george__ | OT ??? fale |
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| 22:50.50 | shevy | is there a way on 3.5.9 to send an open window to the "systray" to the very bottom right? like how Ktorrent behaves |
| 22:51.26 | daskreech | OffTopic |
| 22:54.15 | fale | george__: OT =Off Topic |
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| 22:56.42 | downs | hi |
| 22:56.51 | downs | just wanted to drop in with a feature idea for amarok |
| 22:57.38 | pinotree | downs: #amarok |
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| 22:57.43 | downs | oh, that exists? |
| 22:57.45 | downs | cool, thanks |
| 22:58.26 | downs | :waves: |
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| 22:58.30 | pinotree | shevy: for already open applications, no, the applications themselves have to complement that |
| 22:58.37 | shevy | okay |
| 22:58.47 | pinotree | shevy: for non-open applications, try ksystraycmd |
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| 22:58.58 | shevy | thanks |
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| 22:59.31 | oledole | Q: In KDE3, is it possible to change the icon and/or title of an mapped window? Specifically for native X-windows, which all get a red X icon. Thanks |
| 23:01.24 | daskreech | Sho_: ping |
| 23:01.43 | Sho_ | daskreech: pong |
| 23:01.55 | daskreech | Sho_: yakuake For KDE4 |
| 23:02.02 | daskreech | it has two sets of titles? |
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| 23:02.46 | Sho_ | daskreech: I don't follow, sorry |
| 23:03.37 | daskreech | Sho_: When I press alt+ctrl+S it doesn't change the same thing it did in KDE3 |
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| 23:06.01 | Sho_ | daskreech: If you're referring to the "Rename Session..." action, that positions a line-edit in place of the tab label of the relevant session that allows changing the tab label |
| 23:06.42 | daskreech | You have to click to change the tab session? |
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| 23:07.35 | Sho_ | daskreech: Changing the tab session can be achieved by clicking on the tab bar, using the "Next Session" or "Previous Session" shortcuts, or one of the "Switch to Session #" shortcuts |
| 23:08.10 | daskreech | Sho_: Sorry I meant to change the name of the tab session |
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| 23:08.43 | shevy | in konsole you can do this happily with dcop |
| 23:09.00 | daskreech | shevy: in KDE4? |
| 23:09.09 | shevy | dont know, i am still on 3.5.9 :) |
| 23:09.12 | yigal | hello I am a little worried I installed kde4 and found that for all the eyecandy, rotating desktop icons etc., the functionality I'm so used to doesn't seem to exist any more, am I missing something? |
| 23:09.22 | shevy | well dcop doesnt exist in kde4 though afaik |
| 23:09.48 | Sho_ | daskreech: In order to change the tab label for a session, you can either activate the "Rename Session..." action to bring up the aforementioned line edit for the session relevant in the current context (i.e. depending on whether it was activated from a context menu or the shortcut) or by double-clicking a tab label on the tab bar |
| 23:10.27 | Sho_ | shevy: The KDE 3 version of Yakuake has a DCOP interface to change tab labels as well, and the KDE 4 version of Yakuake has an analogous D-Bus interface |
| 23:10.28 | shevy | dcop konsole-393 session-3 renameSession "hello world, earth to daskreech! this is the BORG" |
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| 23:11.06 | yigal | is my question spurious or are people too tired to answer it? |
| 23:11.21 | shevy | sometimes takes a little time yigal ;) |
| 23:11.29 | daskreech | some more info might help |
| 23:11.56 | kevin_ | I have no sound |
| 23:12.43 | yigal | In kde4 I right click a desktop icon and am given virtually nothing I can do with it, I can't even put it into trash |
| 23:13.08 | yigal | I guess the idea is that dolphin takes control of this |
| 23:13.08 | daskreech | Fixed in trunk |
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| 23:13.39 | yigal | ok, well then I better into the trunk, like unfortunate teens and frats have to on party nights |
| 23:13.44 | pjv | hi where can i get some nice mac os x icons for kde |
| 23:14.26 | yigal | www.kde-look.org/ |
| 23:15.22 | pjv | ty |
| 23:15.26 | daskreech | yigal: anything else? :) |
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| 23:16.17 | yigal | daskreech: I'm not going to worry about it for 4 months |
| 23:16.21 | yigal | :) |
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| 23:16.39 | daskreech | yigal: Great :-) What distro? |
| 23:16.46 | yigal | debian |
| 23:17.27 | yigal | we were just talking :) debain-kde ? |
| 23:17.47 | daskreech | yigal: I think they have a Live Cd you can try in 4 months :-) |
| 23:17.52 | daskreech | Yes |
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| 23:18.35 | yigal | daskreech: very nice, I think I will just update, and upgrade and in 4 months I will look at what I have installed |
| 23:20.12 | daskreech | :-) k |
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| 23:28.00 | Kr|ptiX | lf help on install a theme |
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| 23:46.03 | psm321_ | hi |
| 23:46.38 | psm321_ | i see some references when searching to a kde3 version of krunner, but am unable to actually find it... does such a thing exist? |
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