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| 00:09.43 | Hazuki | How usable is KDE 4.0.3? Last 4.x release I tried was an RC... |
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| 01:48.06 | Buhmanator | i have a cryptic error message from konqueror. my problem is that konqeror refuses to browse the file system. It wont open ANYTHING. no folders, pages, nothing. here is the error message it gives me when I type "/" into the location bar: |
| 01:48.08 | Buhmanator | "this appears to be a configuration error. you have associated Konqueror with inode/directory, but it cannot handle this file type" |
| 01:48.08 | Buhmanator | Now, last time I checked, the WHOLE point of konqueror was to browse the file system. How can it not support "inode/directory"? |
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| 01:49.59 | Buhmanator | i have a cryptic error message from konqueror. my problem is that konqeror refuses to browse the file system. It wont open ANYTHING. no folders, pages, nothing. here is the error message it gives me when I type "/" into the location bar: |
| 01:50.03 | Buhmanator | "this appears to be a configuration error. you have associated Konqueror with inode/directory, but it cannot handle this file type" |
| 01:50.06 | Buhmanator | Now, last time I checked, the WHOLE point of konqueror was to browse the file system. How can it not support "inode/directory"? |
| 01:50.24 | Jucato | heard you the first time |
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| 01:51.11 | Buhmanator | well, xchat kept crashing, just making sure it got through, sorry |
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| 02:00.51 | Buhmanator | Major problem, when I go to the said dialog in the emedding tab of the file associations tab of the configure-konqueror dialog, |
| 02:00.54 | Buhmanator | when I click on the "add" button on the services preference order subsection to add " Icon View (konq_iconview)" to the top of the list, there are no items in the list to add! |
| 02:03.56 | Buhmanator | any ideas? |
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| 02:11.11 | MarcC_ | anybody know how to get PCM volume control to control the PCM volume in kmix? |
| 02:12.14 | Jucato | MarcC_: PCM volume control doesn't control the PCM volume? or you mean the main volume doesn't? |
| 02:12.39 | MarcC_ | main volume works fine, but PCM volume slider doesn't change any volume, it does nothing |
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| 02:31.46 | Buhmanator | i have a cryptic error message from konqueror. my problem is that konqeror refuses to browse the file system. It wont open ANYTHING. no folders, pages, nothing. here is the error message it gives me when I type "/" into the location bar: |
| 02:31.50 | Buhmanator | "this appears to be a configuration error. you have associated Konqueror with inode/directory, but it cannot handle this file type" |
| 02:31.53 | Buhmanator | Now, last time I checked, the WHOLE point of konqueror was to browse the file system. How can it not support "inode/directory"? |
| 02:31.56 | Buhmanator | Major problem, when I go to the said dialog in the emedding tab of the file associations tab of the configure-konqueror dialog, |
| 02:32.01 | Buhmanator | when I click on the "add" button on the services preference order subsection to add " Icon View (konq_iconview)" to the top of the list, there are no items in the list to add! |
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| 02:36.35 | DASkreech | Buhmanator: The whole point of Konqueror is to be a viewer so I guess you checked at the wrong time |
| 02:36.48 | Jucato | See note in #kubuntu |
| 02:36.59 | Buhmanator | the wrong time/ |
| 02:37.00 | Buhmanator | ? |
| 02:37.55 | DASkreech | The whole point of Konqueror is not to browse the file system |
| 02:38.06 | DASkreech | It just happens to do it very well :) |
| 02:39.46 | kc8hfi | why would the add service dialog box be empty? |
| 02:40.19 | Jucato | kc8hfi: I don't know. he hasn't answered my question in #kubuntu yet |
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| 02:53.56 | Buhmanator | kc8hfi, i don't know |
| 02:54.16 | Buhmanator | could you repeat that jucato? |
| 02:54.35 | Jucato | [10:34] <Jucato> Buhmanator: I think we have already established earlier that you have a messed up KDE isntall. can you check if the fle /usr/lib/kde3/konq_iconview.so exists? |
| 02:54.44 | Buhmanator | i'm managing 2 million channels so it's very likely i'd miss it |
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| 02:54.56 | Buhmanator | sure |
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| 02:55.23 | Jucato | (and asking the same question in 4 channels makes it harder to track down where you're being helped) |
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| 02:55.52 | Buhmanator | actually, 2 million |
| 02:56.32 | Jucato | right... |
| 02:56.37 | Buhmanator | it exists |
| 02:56.58 | Buhmanator | well, i do have a 0.5 gb/s connection |
| 02:57.07 | Buhmanator | 2 million channels is no sweat |
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| 03:08.31 | Alchera | does anyone know where is the file that stores the "Locatation" menu entries for Konqueror is located? |
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| 03:24.07 | pedepy | so... when i start kde it sorta 'hangs' there for about 15 seconds and nothing will start |
| 03:24.12 | pedepy | i just get a bouncing cursor |
| 03:24.25 | pedepy | it is prefectly responsive, however |
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| 03:26.03 | Buhmanator | goodnight, all! (16 core AMD Opteron OVCLK 5.215ghz, 512tb DDR4 RAM, 1,000,000 tb HDD) |
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| 03:59.35 | SHADOW^ | hello |
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| 04:00.33 | SHADOW^ | how do you get other room using LInux |
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| 04:01.10 | DaSkreech | SHADOW^: You want another channel? |
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| 04:03.35 | pedepy | jesus |
| 04:07.03 | SHADOW^ | hello' |
| 04:07.19 | AceLan | hihi |
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| 04:07.47 | DaSkreech | hi |
| 04:08.22 | grundleborg | SHADOW^: we call these "rooms" channels. you type /join <name of channel> to join a different channel. |
| 04:08.41 | grundleborg | SHADOW^: this channel is only for KDE user support. |
| 04:08.56 | DaSkreech | SHADOW^: Do you want to talk in a differnt language ? |
| 04:09.16 | SHADOW^ | No |
| 04:09.40 | DaSkreech | ok :) |
| 04:09.41 | SHADOW^ | This is the first time using Fedora 8 |
| 04:09.59 | DaSkreech | SHADOW^: ok cool What did you have questiosn about ? |
| 04:09.59 | SHADOW^ | So a little lost |
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| 04:10.14 | SHADOW^ | Just trying out a few thing |
| 04:10.20 | DaSkreech | SHADOW^: Cool :) |
| 04:10.46 | grundleborg | SHADOW^: please "/join #kde-chat" for off-topic conversation |
| 04:10.51 | SHADOW^ | Always used as a server application never use a desk top |
| 04:11.21 | SHADOW^ | use IRC with wdws base PC |
| 04:11.39 | DaSkreech | SHADOW^: Type /join #kde-chat |
| 04:11.50 | SHADOW^ | how can you search for other room |
| 04:12.21 | DaSkreech | SHADOW^: I'll tell you in #kde-chat |
| 04:12.27 | SHADOW^ | kde was build in here that the reson i ended up in this room sorry to bother everyone |
| 04:12.45 | DaSkreech | SHADOW^: No problems Just easier to talk in there |
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| 04:18.12 | goldphish | How do you set global volume keys with KDE 4? I only see ways to specify keybindings for specific apps. It would be great to just say XF86VolumeDown should be used anywhere you want the volume down. |
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| 05:16.09 | illogic-al | yo. what's up boys n' girls? |
| 05:16.15 | illogic-al | Nyle: PING! |
| 05:16.48 | illogic-al | CAN ANYONE TELL ME HOW TO CHANGE THE BACKEND PHONON IS USING? |
| 05:17.08 | illogic-al | I'm trying to use the ones built with qt. |
| 05:17.16 | illogic-al | qt 4.4 rc |
| 05:18.08 | shadok | ... |
| 05:20.57 | illogic-al | indeed |
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| 05:38.26 | Skrot | illogic-al: systemsettings -> sound -> backend? |
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| 05:39.00 | illogic-al | Skrot: how do i change it without a gui? |
| 05:39.10 | Skrot | now that I don't know |
| 05:39.59 | Skrot | #phonon |
| 05:40.31 | illogic-al | Well I might be able to help you help me, if your game. |
| 05:41.44 | Skrot | Sure |
| 05:41.51 | Skrot | I've only got one backend though.. |
| 05:42.25 | illogic-al | ok, can you go back to the backend changer in system settings and change it? |
| 05:42.35 | illogic-al | is there something like a null backend? |
| 05:42.51 | Skrot | unfortunately not :| |
| 05:42.52 | Skrot | Just Xine |
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| 05:44.01 | illogic-al | ok. if you execute 'grep -ir phonon ~/.kde/share/config/' do you see anything about phonon? |
| 05:44.09 | illogic-al | Skrot: ^ |
| 05:44.58 | Skrot | Just a few application configs (amarok, dragonplayer, etc) mentioning Phonon::AudioOutput |
| 05:45.57 | illogic-al | hum. same here |
| 05:46.21 | illogic-al | 'grep -ir backend ~/.kde/share/config/' turn up anything? |
| 05:46.40 | Skrot | Also there's ~./kde/share/config/phonondevicesrc which only mentions devices |
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| 05:47.00 | Skrot | err, ~/.kde/.. |
| 05:47.11 | Skrot | Nothing phonon related |
| 05:49.33 | illogic-al | Skrot: thanks anyway. |
| 05:50.00 | illogic-al | just another day kde-osx world |
| 05:50.14 | illogic-al | hmm. not a bad name for a chan. |
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| 06:00.06 | DaSkreech | illogic-al: you want something other than quicktime? |
| 06:00.23 | illogic-al | DaSkreech: nah |
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| 07:28.43 | tafsen | How do I autostart programs in KDE? |
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| 07:30.09 | tvtoon | tafsen, you can store them with sections, just don't quit/kill before shuting down KDE |
| 07:30.14 | pinotree | ~autostart |
| 07:30.14 | apt | To start a program or set an environment variable at KDE login, see: http://docs.kde.org/development/en/kdebase/faq/configure.html#id2560261 - or, if you want a GUI - http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=45975 |
| 07:30.45 | pinotree | tafsen: http://docs.kde.org/stable/en/kdebase-runtime/faq/configure.html#id2560231 |
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| 08:21.33 | simpsonetti | hi, somebody have a look at http://paste.phati.de/667 . a perlscript for konversation won't work. |
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| 08:25.39 | lemma | simpsonetti: what's the error you're getting? |
| 08:26.07 | simpsonetti | no error and no ouput to konversation or a channel. |
| 08:27.41 | lemma | simpsonetti: so it's probably the dcop command. did you get that line from somewhere? |
| 08:27.57 | simpsonetti | right. |
| 08:28.02 | simpsonetti | wait. |
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| 08:29.20 | simpsonetti | http://www.cyber-tec.org/2006/08/05/scripting-mit-konversation/ |
| 08:29.38 | simpsonetti | and here the script: http://paste.frubar.net/2169 |
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| 08:30.25 | annma | simpsonetti: check the dcop command with kdcop maybe as a start |
| 08:32.11 | lemma | simpsonetti: I don't know perl so I'm not sure if case-sensitivity matters, but check for that in the dcop command |
| 08:32.31 | lemma | simpsonetti: also you're using different quotes |
| 08:32.39 | lemma | simpsonetti: the original sports ` instead of ' |
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| 08:34.10 | simpsonetti | kay |
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| 08:58.19 | stou | hello |
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| 09:31.29 | niels__ | Hi there.. Somebody regognized this qt-copy build error? http://rafb.net/p/GVMjwH53.html |
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| 09:31.53 | annma | niels__: when was last time you built qt-copy? |
| 09:32.30 | niels__ | annma: This output is from five minutes ago.. I fully builded it yesterday. It's a recent checkout. |
| 09:32.51 | niels__ | annma: Am I missing some rude x11 header? |
| 09:32.55 | annma | it did not change since yesterday |
| 09:33.27 | annma | did you have files updated? |
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| 09:34.00 | niels__ | annma: svn st says nothing besides the usual patches from ./apply_patches. This qdnd_x11.cpp isn't modified. |
| 09:34.13 | annma | why do you rebuild if nothing changed? |
| 09:34.46 | annma | last change was the 5th April for qt-copy |
| 09:34.57 | annma | if you built yesterday there's no need to build today |
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| 09:35.09 | annma | no patches were added since the 5th |
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| 09:35.31 | niels__ | Uhm, my last succesfull build was from 1th April or so.. So there were changes to build. |
| 09:35.55 | LockeVendetta | hi, is there any package (in KDE4) that makes the GTK applications QT like? |
| 09:36.03 | annma | you said you fully built yesterday niels__ |
| 09:36.14 | annma | LockeVendetta: look at kde-look.org |
| 09:36.21 | annma | LockeVendetta: you'll find one |
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| 09:36.35 | niels__ | annma: Ah sorry, that's a misunderstanding. I builded succesfully till this far. |
| 09:37.16 | niels__ | annma: I think I'm just going to rm -Rfv wt-copy&&svn co... to make sure there isn't any garbage somewhere. |
| 09:37.18 | niels__ | Thanks anyway. |
| 09:37.36 | annma | why don't you use the configure line in the README? |
| 09:37.44 | annma | and make clean if it's been a while |
| 09:38.32 | annma | if you did not build successfully since the rc1 update you need 1) to revert patches 2) to clean |
| 09:39.00 | niels__ | Hmmz, actually that's quite true.. |
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| 09:39.44 | annma | wait |
| 09:39.49 | annma | I'll paste you a link |
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| 09:40.08 | niels__ | I've found the README.qt-copy if that's what you mean. |
| 09:40.10 | niels__ | :) |
| 09:40.32 | annma | http://lists.kde.org/?l=kde-core-devel&m=120724258117054&w=2 |
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| 09:40.45 | annma | you need to do what's in there to build |
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| 09:48.29 | stou | hi... is there a way to export a Kivio drawing as SVG.. I tried googling |
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| 09:51.15 | Jucato | stou: File -> Export -> Scalable Vector Graphics? |
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| 09:52.28 | stou | Jucato, I only have 'Kivio doc' and 'Kivio Uncompressed XML'. |
| 09:52.40 | stou | I guess my distro didn't compile it with SVG support? |
| 09:52.54 | Jucato | maybe. |
| 09:53.25 | stou | is kivio supposed to be able to export svg |
| 09:53.27 | stou | ? |
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| 09:54.41 | Jucato | I have an SVG filter here in the export dialog. so I presume yes. you can try asking in #koffice |
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| 09:54.51 | stou | ah, thank you Jucato |
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| 10:31.07 | ublongata | how do you get alt-tab to cycle windows only on the active display when in dual head, KDE4? |
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| 11:05.44 | FiNeX | hi! |
| 11:07.04 | annma | hey FiNeX :)) |
| 11:07.11 | FiNeX | hi annma |
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| 11:33.22 | gladier | hey guys - i dragged on soemthing with my main panel and its now about 2 inches above where its supposed to be and i cant get it back down |
| 11:33.45 | annma | kde version? |
| 11:33.52 | gladier | 3.9.4 |
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| 11:34.13 | annma | hmm? |
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| 11:34.24 | pinotree | what? |
| 11:34.37 | annma | what distro is that? |
| 11:34.40 | annma | ;) |
| 11:34.40 | JordanC | Say whaaaat |
| 11:34.51 | gladier | argh |
| 11:34.53 | annma | now we have ghost KDEs |
| 11:34.54 | pinotree | slaps JordanC with the usual large trout |
| 11:34.56 | gladier | 3..5.9 |
| 11:34.59 | JordanC | :P |
| 11:35.11 | JordanC | slapslaps pinotree |
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| 11:36.18 | gladier | wierdest little problem ive had in a while |
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| 11:37.12 | annma | your description is not very helpful |
| 11:37.38 | gladier | i fixed it... was a problem with xinerama :) |
| 11:37.48 | gladier | thanks |
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| 11:38.53 | annma | ;) easy support on that one |
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| 12:00.23 | twager | Any way I can burn mp3 files as .wav and get the titles insead of tracknumbers ? |
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| 12:00.57 | sabayon | hello |
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| 12:01.26 | sabayon | lol i dont need to say what os im using |
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| 12:02.08 | hrw | morning |
| 12:02.32 | hrw | someone here use kde 4.1-svn? |
| 12:02.47 | bram85 | hrw: i have it running right now, what's up? |
| 12:02.47 | sabayon | just removed xp from my laptop :) |
| 12:03.07 | hrw | bram85: is there a way to get weather report on plasma desktop? |
| 12:05.18 | Jucato | ooooh bram85!! long time no see :) |
| 12:05.36 | bram85 | hrw: afaics, no |
| 12:05.45 | bram85 | greetings, Jucato |
| 12:05.55 | Jucato | isn't there a kweather plasmoid already? |
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| 12:06.53 | hrw | Jucato: where? |
| 12:07.01 | bram85 | the kweather source doesn't reveal anything plasma like |
| 12:07.08 | bram85 | and kde-look.org neither |
| 12:07.25 | hrw | kdebase-workspace has dataengine for weather |
| 12:07.39 | bram85 | ok, that's a start |
| 12:08.07 | lemma | there actually is a weather applet |
| 12:08.18 | lemma | .. and you should also be able to use the superkaramba weather thing |
| 12:08.34 | Jucato | hrw: not sure where exactly. I'm not using the great 4 yet |
| 12:09.11 | hrw | brb |
| 12:09.30 | bram85 | lemma: where did they hide it then? can't find it anywhere |
| 12:12.00 | pinotree | there should be something in playground/base/plasma/applets |
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| 12:12.12 | pinotree | but it's far from complete nor feature-like kweather.. |
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| 12:13.10 | bram85 | indeed, there's one... last modified a month ago |
| 12:13.13 | lemma | agrees. it's not the same |
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| 12:16.21 | lemma | .. liquid weather imports fine but I can't test it because it mumbles something about missing kross |
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| 12:21.22 | hrw | ;( |
| 12:21.52 | hrw | anyway its over nearly year to kde 4.2 release so it will progress |
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| 12:24.08 | Jucato | 4.1 first :) |
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| 12:44.33 | hrw | Jucato: sure |
| 12:44.50 | hrw | Jucato: but then 4.2 will be needed to fix all bugs of 4.1 ;D |
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| 12:50.25 | hrw | Jucato: applets in panel cannot be moved, have wrong size after panel resize, applets added into top panel have random size (too big or too small), systray icons has garbage background etc. |
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| 12:51.07 | Jucato | known issues for Plasma already :) |
| 12:51.20 | vidyutg | anyone embedded katepart in qt application ? |
| 12:51.56 | hrw | Jucato: etc, etc etc |
| 12:52.02 | vidyutg | i want to use ktexteditor in a qt app |
| 12:52.35 | hrw | Jucato: amount of already opened bugs keeps me from adding new ones |
| 12:53.02 | hrw | Jucato: especially when most of kde bugs never get into NEW state |
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| 13:03.24 | vidyutg | koi to bolo bhai ! |
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| 13:15.45 | Kingmilo | Hi all. I have a problem with KMAIL where it DOES NOT autocomplete email address i have stored in my addressbook, can someone kindly assist - thanks. |
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| 13:27.03 | hypnotic | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:27.03 | hypnotic | column, so you lose your personal arrangement |
| 13:27.14 | Nyle | illogic-al, PONG |
| 13:27.21 | Nyle | illogic-al, where are you now OB? |
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| 13:30.37 | hrw | bye |
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| 13:40.47 | Kingmilo | Hi all. I have a problem with KMAIL where it DOES NOT autocomplete email address i have stored in my addressbook, can someone kindly assist - thanks. |
| 13:41.10 | pinotree | Kingmilo: (please don't ask more) |
| 13:42.02 | Kingmilo | :/ |
| 13:44.08 | pinotree | Kingmilo: nothing against you, but asking continuously the same question won't help you more... |
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| 13:48.41 | Kingmilo | pinotree, i understand but there was about a 20min delay from the first Q, and a couple arrive/leave in the # so i thought maybe asking again wasnt a bad idea. |
| 13:49.33 | Jucato | Kingmilo: if you can't find anything in the KMail Handbook, you can try asking in #kontact |
| 13:50.09 | Kingmilo | thanks. |
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| 13:55.25 | TheFuzzball | hi, I am trying to build Compiz Fusion from GIT and I get errors , here is the terminal output http://pastebin.com/d3fbf886 , does anyone know what is wrong? |
| 13:55.56 | dwins | TheFuzzball: you'd probably do better asking in #compiz |
| 13:56.07 | TheFuzzball | oki |
| 13:56.28 | Jucato | or #compiz-fusion |
| 13:57.05 | TheFuzzball | already asked in #compiz-fusion, no relpy |
| 13:57.11 | aleksanteri | just wait |
| 13:57.22 | aleksanteri | and somebody (might) reply |
| 13:58.02 | TheFuzzball | :) |
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| 14:03.39 | cow_2001 | is there a way to use costume fields in kaddressbook? |
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| 14:12.02 | nighty | hi |
| 14:12.08 | TheFuzzball | hey |
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| 14:12.21 | nighty | is it possible to move icons in the kicker replacement yet? |
| 14:13.07 | TheFuzzball | plasma you mean? |
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| 14:13.52 | nighty | yes |
| 14:14.09 | TheFuzzball | not in the panel, only on the desktop |
| 14:14.19 | nighty | i removed the new k-menu and added another menu |
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| 14:14.27 | LinuxMafia | hi all |
| 14:14.33 | nighty | but this is now on the right side instead of left. :( |
| 14:15.06 | nighty | and i have another problem |
| 14:15.40 | nighty | i have an logitech mx 5000 keyboard which is not able to switch num lock setting on the keyboard |
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| 14:15.57 | nighty | but i cannot find an option to activate it like it is done in kde3.5 |
| 14:16.47 | LinuxMafia | i have 4 windows on gimp and it shows it in kicker under one part with little arrow , how can i see them all without clicking them one be one |
| 14:17.14 | Jucato | nighty: System Settings -> Keyboard? |
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| 14:17.29 | nighty | Jucato: yes, i didnt found anything there |
| 14:17.55 | Jucato | LinuxMafia: right-click on the panel -> Configure Panel -> Taskbar page -> Group similar tasks: set to Never? |
| 14:18.12 | Jucato | nighty: you mean the NumLock on KDE Startup? |
| 14:18.41 | LinuxMafia | Jucato, thanks alot let me try it |
| 14:19.09 | nighty | Jucato: yes this is that was i am missing |
| 14:19.20 | Jucato | weird. I have it here |
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| 14:20.03 | nighty | Jucato: do you use a distribution package? |
| 14:20.15 | nighty | or the package from kde.org? |
| 14:20.35 | nighty | i use the gentoo ** packages |
| 14:21.11 | Jucato | no.from source |
| 14:21.23 | Jucato | might want to ask in #gentoo-kde |
| 14:21.24 | nighty | gentoo packages are from source too |
| 14:21.26 | LinuxMafia | Jucato, i just get unlock pannels and help by right clicking on panel |
| 14:21.44 | nighty | but i am not sure if they are modified |
| 14:21.44 | Jucato | LinuxMafia: then Unlock the panels first :) |
| 14:21.50 | Jucato | nighty: I meant from SVN |
| 14:21.50 | LinuxMafia | oh |
| 14:22.06 | nighty | ok |
| 14:22.07 | Jucato | is going away for a while though |
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| 14:23.23 | LinuxMafia | Jucato, it set to "when Taskbar Full" |
| 14:23.50 | LinuxMafia | Jucato, i want to see all group with one action |
| 14:24.06 | Jucato | so it only groups common windows/tasks if the taskbar is full of opened windows |
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| 14:24.30 | Jucato | you can either set to to Never or uncheck Show all windows from all desktops |
| 14:27.30 | LinuxMafia | Jucato, it is unckecked , i want to be grouped , but i want to be able to see them with one action , like i want the group come on top , is that possible? |
| 14:27.48 | Jucato | hm.. that I don't know |
| 14:28.13 | LinuxMafia | i tried right click and maximize all |
| 14:28.19 | LinuxMafia | but it did not do any thing |
| 14:29.24 | LinuxMafia | it is frustrating let say gimp has 4 windows , and each time i come to xchat i have to click 8 times more or less to see them all |
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| 14:39.55 | LinuxMafia | Jucato, how about linking them? |
| 14:40.08 | LinuxMafia | is there posiblity to link them? |
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| 14:50.33 | LinuxMafia | Jucato, i moved them to other desktop this made it easier |
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| 14:57.59 | ublongata | how do you get alt-tab to cycle windows only on the active display when in dual head, KDE4? |
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| 15:01.09 | dwins | ublongata: not quite the same, but by default you can middle click a window to put it behind all others |
| 15:01.19 | dwins | :s/window/window title/ |
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| 15:10.53 | urkud | Hi! What's happening to www.kde.org? |
| 15:11.22 | annma | it's down |
| 15:11.42 | Jucato | was trying to lift it up :) |
| 15:11.49 | annma | lol |
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| 15:25.17 | jinzx | aloha |
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| 15:52.15 | bedahr | hi! I just wanted to ask if there is anyone working on that new compare-files-before-replacing them feature in kde4? (the one you see when you copy e.g. a .mp3 over another and it shows you meta-information (which doesn't really work here) of the files) |
| 15:52.46 | bedahr | I think this is absolutely awesome but it hasn't really been implemented yet, has it? |
| 15:53.01 | bedahr | it is there but doesn't work (or is this just an error in my configuration?) |
| 15:53.13 | annma | you mean strigi? |
| 15:53.24 | bedahr | I don't think so |
| 15:53.35 | annma | nepomuk? |
| 15:53.49 | pinotree | annma: no... |
| 15:54.02 | bedahr | when you copy e.g. /home/me/dada.mp3 to /home/you/ and in the target folder there is already an dada.mp3 it asks to replace the file but provides you with an overview about the files |
| 15:54.03 | annma | what is it then? |
| 15:54.09 | bedahr | wait I'll make a screenshot to describe it |
| 15:54.27 | annma | no I see what you mean, i just wanted the name of the project |
| 15:54.33 | pinotree | copy dialog |
| 15:54.38 | annma | ah just that |
| 15:55.24 | bedahr | pinotree: is there active work going on? |
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| 15:57.11 | bedahr | here is a screenshot of what I mean: http://xs226.xs.to/xs226/08153/copydialog862.png |
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| 16:35.04 | RoPhy | hi ? |
| 16:35.10 | MinceR | yes, hi |
| 16:35.23 | RoPhy | can i ask something? |
| 16:35.55 | pinotree | "don't ask to ask, just ask" |
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| 16:36.24 | RoPhy | lol all the members in this room know this quote |
| 16:36.27 | RoPhy | okay thank u |
| 16:36.50 | RoPhy | i am woundring if i can play mp3z in kaboodle |
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| 16:38.46 | RoPhy | ? |
| 16:39.17 | RoPhy | guys? |
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| 16:41.23 | RoPhy | okay thanxx |
| 16:43.14 | picca_ | anyone know of a good kooldock like app for KDE 4.x |
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| 16:53.12 | jpwhiting|workpc | picca_: I saw one on kde-look the other day, one moment |
| 16:54.06 | jpwhiting|workpc | http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/PrettyTasks?content=78494 <-- this one |
| 16:54.14 | jpwhiting|workpc | it's only tasks but looks similar |
| 16:54.21 | picca_ | thanks jpwhiting|workpc |
| 16:54.31 | jpwhiting|workpc | np |
| 16:54.43 | jpwhiting|workpc | let me know if you get it to work, I'd like to try it myself actually |
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| 16:54.56 | jpwhiting|workpc | I miss kxdocker :) |
| 16:55.05 | picca_ | i'll give it a shot |
| 16:55.17 | picca_ | glad to see someone has started a project like this for kde 4.x |
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| 17:29.26 | aedaemoen | hey all, having some serious issues getting kde to start. was running kde fine yesterday, logged out after doing updates, ever since, kdeinit is failling... logfile of startkde posted at http://rafb.net/p/hGihXX26.html |
| 17:29.49 | annma | kde3 or 4? |
| 17:29.52 | aedaemoen | 3 |
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| 17:30.09 | aedaemoen | 3.5 on centos5 |
| 17:30.13 | annma | did you upgrade some packages yesterday? |
| 17:30.23 | aedaemoen | ... upgrade no. update yes. |
| 17:30.38 | PhilRod | your installation looks hosed |
| 17:30.43 | annma | yup |
| 17:30.55 | aedaemoen | PhilRod, yeah... thats what im looking at... now comes the fun part, trying to fix it |
| 17:31.09 | pinotree | aedaemoen: #gentoo please |
| 17:31.19 | pinotree | err ok, need drink |
| 17:31.22 | annma | your distro channel maybe will help |
| 17:31.25 | pinotree | aedaemoen: #centos |
| 17:31.26 | annma | centos is gentoo? |
| 17:31.31 | annma | lol |
| 17:31.40 | pinotree | no, it's me forgetting a cup of chocolate |
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| 17:31.49 | annma | pours a whisky to pinotree so he'll get even more confused |
| 17:31.57 | aedaemoen | pinotree, already asking in there, its just strange that noone else has mentioned any issues |
| 17:32.11 | pinotree | aedaemoen: asking here is pointless... |
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| 17:33.13 | annma | aedaemoen: did you try a new user? |
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| 17:33.55 | aedaemoen | new user no. but neither root nor my acct (which was literally logged in prior to updates) worked fine, then boom! |
| 17:34.23 | annma | never log as root |
| 17:34.32 | annma | try a new user and if broken reinstall kde |
| 17:34.45 | elTigre | hey, my kde4 panel somehow crashed... |
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| 17:34.57 | elTigre | now there is a white bar with a few notification icons |
| 17:35.13 | elTigre | what can I do to restart that without leaving the session |
| 17:35.13 | elTigre | ? |
| 17:35.25 | pinotree | alt+f2, plasma |
| 17:35.46 | annma | if plsma all crashed |
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| 17:35.58 | annma | if not, kquitapp plasma and then plasma |
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| 17:36.57 | elTigre | ah thanks |
| 17:37.38 | DanielW | from ALT+F2 start as different user doesn't work. it always gets started as the current kde user no matter what i enter |
| 17:38.09 | DanielW | is that a bug or just not ready? |
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| 17:39.42 | PhilRod | hrm, kmail is hanging and I don't know why |
| 17:40.09 | PhilRod | anyone got an idea for diagnosing it. I would suspect a network issue, since I'm on a different wifi network to usual |
| 17:40.11 | annma | DanielW: what do you mean start as diferent user? |
| 17:40.22 | PhilRod | but web, irc and msn work ok |
| 17:40.44 | annma | once I had a connection issue where I could not browse but IRC was working fine |
| 17:41.12 | DanielW | annma: kde4, ALT+F2, then in the settings (button in the buttom left) "run as different user" |
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| 17:42.06 | DanielW | argh i am to stupid to use bugs.kde.org to search if a bug is already in it |
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| 17:42.53 | PhilRod | the search takes a while to get used to |
| 17:42.59 | annma | I don't have that option |
| 17:43.20 | DanielW | annma: ? i have it for weeks now... |
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| 17:43.39 | annma | in krunner? |
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| 17:43.46 | PhilRod | let's try a network restart. brb |
| 17:43.53 | DanielW | annma: first enter a name of a program (for example konsole) then, press the buttom left button. then select "run as different user" |
| 17:43.58 | annma | oh I see |
| 17:44.02 | annma | it's all black |
| 17:44.27 | DanielW | yeah its not very good readable |
| 17:44.27 | annma | I only have 1 user for KDE4 anyway ;) |
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| 17:44.36 | annma | it's awful you mean! |
| 17:44.52 | DanielW | annma: me too, but i want to start wireshark as root with it |
| 17:44.58 | annma | what the hell is this |
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| 17:45.21 | annma | better start from konsole then probably |
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| 17:46.03 | annma | it runs as my kde4 user even if I put root |
| 17:46.05 | DanielW | annma: not that easy. first i have to copy over that x auth cookie thing and then merge it with xauth... takes so much time |
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| 17:46.09 | annma | bugggggggggggg |
| 17:46.23 | quotemstr | Does the latest official kmail support IMAP IDLE? |
| 17:46.35 | quotemstr | I can't find a definitive answer by searching. |
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| 17:47.09 | DanielW | quotemstr: i don't think it does. my server does support it, but i have to fetch mails to get the new mails |
| 17:47.17 | DanielW | so i set kmail to search for mails every minute |
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| 17:47.25 | xevix | kde4, gentoo 2007.0. how do i save advanced window settings, like in kde3? |
| 17:47.29 | quotemstr | Yeah, me too. It's inefficient, but it works. |
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| 17:47.35 | PhilRod | good, seems to have fixed itself now |
| 17:47.39 | igors | hi all...my menu bar (on top) os kate has disappear, how can i display it again? |
| 17:47.47 | DanielW | i like imap idle on my mobile phone |
| 17:48.16 | quotemstr | DanielW: N95? |
| 17:48.22 | DanielW | e61i |
| 17:48.34 | quotemstr | Close enough. |
| 17:48.35 | quotemstr | :-) |
| 17:48.54 | DanielW | :-) |
| 17:50.02 | DanielW | found another bug: konqueror: go to a website. follow a link, click on another link. then press and hold the back button to open the short history menu and click on an item. you will get on an other site than the one you clicked at |
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| 17:51.13 | quotemstr | uses Firefox. |
| 17:51.34 | annma | we're in #kde here quotemstr not in #firefox |
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| 17:51.47 | quotemstr | DanielW: worksforme. |
| 17:52.07 | quotemstr | (In Konqueror 3.5.9) |
| 17:52.08 | DanielW | quotemstr: current konqueror from trunk? |
| 17:52.10 | quotemstr | Ah. |
| 17:52.10 | DanielW | ok |
| 17:52.20 | quotemstr | returns to coding. |
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| 17:53.32 | DanielW | i know 3 bugs in current kde4 i would like to see fixed. so i should post that bugs on bugs.kde.org correct? but well i don't now if there are already there. if i use the simple search i get a lot of results. if i try the complex search thing i get no results :-( |
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| 17:53.50 | quotemstr | Then fix your complex search. :-) |
| 17:54.04 | devnet | fixes it |
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| 17:54.31 | annma | DanielW: report and we'll find duplicates |
| 17:54.41 | devnet | well, complex search is exclusionary...which isn't the way search should be |
| 17:54.44 | annma | what are the bugs? the Alt-F2 theme is filed |
| 17:54.49 | devnet | so I don't blame you |
| 17:55.03 | annma | bugzilla will be upgraded but that's a pain |
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| 17:55.20 | DanielW | annma: ok alt-f2 theme and the start as different user feature there? |
| 17:56.11 | DanielW | the 2nd bug is the konqueror bug i wrote about a few minutes ago |
| 17:56.16 | annma | DanielW: the ugly theme is a filed bug |
| 17:56.24 | DanielW | ok |
| 17:56.31 | DanielW | that thing is called krunner? |
| 17:56.38 | annma | the different user is not implemented |
| 17:56.39 | annma | yes |
| 17:56.50 | annma | maybe the theme will be fixed on the meeting |
| 17:56.59 | annma | DanielW: will you be around this week-end? |
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| 17:57.13 | annma | if so you could pop up to #plasma and ask them |
| 17:57.33 | annma | there'll be a meeting but I can't go and I won't have internet |
| 17:57.36 | DanielW | annma: ok, will do that |
| 17:57.47 | DanielW | http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=153571 <- it is already there but it is quite old |
| 17:57.51 | annma | you can still file a bug for the different user |
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| 17:58.20 | annma | vote for it! |
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| 17:58.51 | annma | I voted! |
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| 17:59.48 | ganymede | hello, is there a command i can run to display the run command window (which is alt+f2 in kwin)? i'd like to set the same keybinding for compiz-fusion but i don't know what command to register with alt+f2 |
| 17:59.56 | ganymede | maybe it's a dcop function? |
| 17:59.58 | DanielW | annma: me too |
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| 18:00.37 | DanielW | ganymede: kde3? |
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| 18:01.05 | ganymede | DanielW: yes |
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| 18:02.01 | DanielW | switch to kde4, kwin there is much better than compiz. ;.) ok sorry i have no idea |
| 18:02.32 | ganymede | "better" is subjective |
| 18:02.40 | ganymede | even thought i'd have to agree with you on that one |
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| 18:02.50 | ganymede | but other things are keeping me away from kde4 |
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| 18:05.14 | DanielW | sorry, i hate bugzilla no everyone cced in that bug has got two mails because of my actions there |
| 18:05.32 | annma | ;) |
| 18:05.38 | DanielW | now |
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| 18:06.38 | ganymede | okay, now i need to walk to class =/ |
| 18:06.43 | DanielW | is the correct way to get notified about changes to a bug to add myself to CC? |
| 18:08.21 | PhilRod | yes |
| 18:08.41 | PhilRod | that or read the whole of kde-bugs-dist (not recommended, unless you have _way_ too much time on your hands) |
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| 18:12.33 | DanielW | i now an other bug. i added that comic strip applet to my desktop. than i deleted it and now on every restart of kde it is back there on my desktop |
| 18:13.06 | MrGrim | doxygen ftw |
| 18:13.08 | MrGrim | this rocks |
| 18:14.15 | DanielW | why do i always mix up now and know? and thing and think :-/ |
| 18:14.24 | devnet | kwin killed me :/ Wouldn't start on my distro's last update |
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| 18:14.50 | devnet | had to drop to terminal, killall, startkde, read logs, icky |
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| 18:15.08 | devnet | finally got in to turn off effects (dunno how they were turned on) |
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| 18:22.57 | DanielW | and another serious "bug": if your harddisk gets full (in my case by a 10 GB .xsession-errors) kde applications are losing there settings. i reconfigured kmail two times and kopete one times :-( |
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| 18:23.11 | Tommy | Anyone know what the KDE for Windows port will do? Will i be able to use KDE like a Vista theme? |
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| 18:24.10 | DanielW | Tommy: it is more a port of the kdelibs not kde-base workspace. so you don't have the kde panel or kwin. but you could use all kde applications. |
| 18:24.45 | Tommy | hehe, well that sucks lol, is there any plan in the future for a full KDE port? I like windows, But KDE looks awesome to me :P |
| 18:25.03 | Tommy | *ducks for saying he likes windows in a Linux Room* |
| 18:26.20 | DanielW | Tommy: mhh you would need an xserver in windows. it think it would be possible than. but i don't really now. but you can try kde for 4 quite easy at the moment. but well it is not a kde4 desktop but the libs and programs. windows.kde.org |
| 18:26.29 | DanielW | it has a nice gui installer |
| 18:26.49 | Tommy | Does KDE mess with the registry? |
| 18:27.03 | dwins | Tommy: on most os's kde runs on there is no registry |
| 18:27.15 | Tommy | oooh |
| 18:27.16 | Tommy | ok |
| 18:27.37 | Tommy | I'm somewhat ignorant of Linux, other than a few boot disks i've played with |
| 18:27.39 | Tommy | Thanks for the info |
| 18:27.51 | DanielW | it does not set up any start menu entrys for its applications. but you can find them all in the bin directory of your kde directory there |
| 18:28.01 | Tommy | kk |
| 18:28.02 | Tommy | thanks |
| 18:28.12 | DanielW | i think in the future it will do that |
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| 18:29.36 | DanielW | and i think sometime it should create file type connections for its programs so for example pdf to okular (if the user wants that). |
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| 18:31.08 | DanielW | why is there no kmenu entry for okular? well should stop finding bugs today |
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| 18:34.04 | annma | there should DanielW |
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| 18:50.50 | clamothe | I'm building kdesvn on FreeBSD 7. Install problem: cd src/3rdparty/webkit/WebCore/ && /usr/bin/make -f Makefile install |
| 18:50.50 | clamothe | make: don't know how to make /usr/local/include/unicode/ucnv.h. Stop |
| 18:50.50 | clamothe | *** Error code 2 |
| 18:50.50 | clamothe | Stop in /usr/home/clamothe/kdesvn/build/qt-copy. |
| 18:51.13 | annma | so that's in qt-copy? |
| 18:51.19 | clamothe | Yes |
| 18:51.29 | clamothe | There is no Makefile in .../WebCore/ |
| 18:51.37 | annma | do you use qt-copy README configure line? |
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| 18:52.02 | clamothe | Nope I'll check it out -- I was just using the kdesvn-build script |
| 18:52.33 | annma | ah I am nto sure this script is OK for qt-copy in fact |
| 18:52.34 | mako_shark | how can i map commands to the extra keys on my logitech keyboard? |
| 18:52.52 | annma | clamothe: is it a first build or an update? |
| 18:53.03 | clamothe | annma, first build |
| 18:53.21 | annma | ok so restart manually probably |
| 18:53.27 | annma | I don't know kdesvn script |
| 18:53.33 | clamothe | okay |
| 18:53.40 | clamothe | Should I configure module by module then? |
| 18:53.45 | clamothe | or is there a global makefile? |
| 18:53.49 | annma | just for qt-copy |
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| 18:53.59 | clamothe | I'll give it a try, thanks :)( |
| 18:54.04 | annma | Makfiles are generated by cmake |
| 18:54.29 | annma | there are no Makefiles, only CMakeLists.txt for cmake |
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| 18:56.29 | drantin | any reason for kde4.0.3 to crash when showing popups from the taskmanager? seems to happen every time if taskmanager isn't running in that little black bar at the bottom of the window... |
| 18:56.55 | drantin | (for some reason, it was gone a couple of days ago, i was ok without it until i noticed that happening...) |
| 18:57.18 | drantin | deleted some particulars from ~/.kde/share/config to get the defaults back to working... |
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| 18:58.55 | annma | works and 2 computers and watches TV + a soccer match |
| 18:59.02 | annma | and/on |
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| 19:00.11 | annma | DanielW: I got 3 messages from you about the bug!!! |
| 19:00.22 | DanielW | annma: 3? |
| 19:00.36 | DanielW | annma: for the voting to? |
| 19:00.53 | annma | 2 and 1 for adding your email to CC |
| 19:00.57 | annma | ;) |
| 19:01.04 | annma | happens all the time, don't worry |
| 19:01.06 | DanielW | i vote, then i wrote a comment, and then for email to cc |
| 19:01.25 | annma | that's good |
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| 19:01.33 | annma | I hope someone implements it |
| 19:02.03 | DanielW | i hope someone fixes the dns related konqueror bug. had to swith my dsl router for that |
| 19:02.06 | DanielW | because of that |
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| 19:02.33 | wad | Has anyone here ever got xpenguins to work with KDE? |
| 19:03.15 | drantin | wad: what's with the pasting the same thing in multiple channels at the same time? Where do you want help at? |
| 19:03.36 | wad | drantin, it wasn't at the same time. I waited a couple of minutes between pastes. :) |
| 19:04.43 | wad | Just trying to learn more about Linux. My friend said that xpenguins was a fun toy. I did "apt-get install xpenguins" and I run it, but nothing happens. |
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| 19:06.42 | drantin | wad: what version of kde? not sure it'll work on 4 at all... |
| 19:06.55 | drantin | i did find directions to get it working on 3... |
| 19:07.03 | drantin | (and 2....) |
| 19:07.16 | annma | drantin: why not? why wouldn't xpenguin not work on kde4??? |
| 19:07.58 | drantin | because it needs support for drawing to the desktop window... not sure kde 4 works the same as previous and other WMs like that... |
| 19:08.21 | drantin | and the specific option referred to doesn't seem to exist in the kde4 control panel... |
| 19:08.24 | wad | 3.5 |
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| 19:09.02 | trpr | wad: i'm not seeing any penguins. running Kubuntu / KDE4. |
| 19:09.04 | drantin | wad: Control Center -> Window Behavior. enable Support Programs in Desktop Window |
| 19:09.10 | trpr | ahhh |
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| 19:09.30 | wad | drantin: I don't seem to have that option. |
| 19:10.00 | wad | I've been all over these windows looking for it. |
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| 19:10.22 | wad | I'm running Kunbuntu KDE 3.5.8 |
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| 19:11.11 | drantin | wad: i don't seem to be able to run kde 3's kcontrol from inside kde4 (well, it does, but all options are missing...) so I can't help find it... going by what was on the xpenguins website... |
| 19:11.20 | drantin | http://xpenguins.seul.org/ |
| 19:11.39 | wad | Yeah, I read that. |
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| 19:11.54 | wad | It wasn't helpful. :-/ |
| 19:12.01 | wad | Oh well, this isn't worth any more effort. |
| 19:12.12 | wad | I'm just messing around, after all. :) |
| 19:12.37 | drantin | if you want you could try it in another windowing environment... |
| 19:13.04 | drantin | also see xpenguins last release date: 2001 |
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| 19:15.22 | sparr | how can i make konqueror close ftp connections its not actively using? OR get other kde apps to use existing connections? |
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| 19:16.38 | DanielW | sparr: kill kioftp :-/ |
| 19:17.08 | annma | xpenguins is so 80s |
| 19:17.21 | annma | time to move on! |
| 19:20.29 | trpr | hehe. i was just thinking we need a shiny new copy for plasma |
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| 19:22.02 | annma | ah a plasma one would be neat |
| 19:26.06 | shadok | is plasma so hot ? |
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| 19:31.47 | annma | it is, it is |
| 19:32.21 | annma | is quite biased though |
| 19:32.41 | shadok | hehe :) |
| 19:32.51 | Jejem | hey shadok :D |
| 19:32.51 | Jejem | still here, you, lol |
| 19:33.04 | devnet | I'm still undecided on much of KDE 4 :/ But then again, I've only got 4.0.3 |
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| 19:33.55 | annma | the Desktop needs more work, there'll be a plasma meeting this week-end |
| 19:34.05 | annma | things will shape up there |
| 19:34.13 | shadok | hi Jejem :) |
| 19:34.24 | Jejem | hi you :D |
| 19:34.25 | SimAtWork | i wish i wasn't so busy with work so i could TRY kde 4 :( |
| 19:34.36 | SimAtWork | if i install kde 3on my work pc and it doesn't work out i'll be in big doo doo |
| 19:34.48 | SimAtWork | err kde 4 |
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| 19:34.56 | shadok | is waiting for july and the 4.1 release, no way i'd test it before |
| 19:35.13 | annma | SimAtWork: why wouldn't it not work |
| 19:35.29 | annma | and besides you install it along kde3, you do not replace kde3 |
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| 19:37.22 | blauzahl | hmm. #kde-chat is a little quiet right now. you could have fun discussions there! |
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| 19:38.40 | Jejem | hey shadok what's up ? :D |
| 19:38.52 | astropirate | Hi all |
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| 20:13.13 | lightx | is their any way that I can change an icons for a file on my desktop without changing every file that has the same extention? (kde3.5.9) |
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| 20:31.07 | dwins | lightx: you can set a custom icon for a shortcut or a directory, but not for arbitrary files |
| 20:31.22 | dwins | (i guess you could make a shortcut to the file and set the icon for that...) |
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| 20:36.28 | m0t3jl | Is it possible to use dcop to change keyboard layout for just one window? |
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| 20:37.43 | maex | m0t3jl wow, i don't think so. I think it's easier to have an applet in kicker |
| 20:38.00 | m0t3jl | I have a program that works well only if I use the us layout, but everything else works fine if I use the cz layout, so I was thinking of making dcop change the keyboard layout whenever I start that app |
| 20:38.35 | m0t3jl | And I would start the app with some script that would tell kxkb to change the layout |
| 20:39.21 | maex | well, there might also be the way to change the X11 behaviour; X11 does normaly the keyboard layout |
| 20:39.21 | m0t3jl | I know now how to change the layout using dcop, that's possible, but I don't know if I can target some other window than the one I am in at the time |
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| 20:43.47 | m0t3jl | maex, KDE seems to remember the layout when I close and start that app again, so it looks like I don't have any problem ;-) |
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| 20:44.35 | maex | m0t3jl i thought you need the cz layout in a parrallel way for other windows? |
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| 20:45.15 | m0t3jl | I do, I use the cz as primary layout, but this app just can't go with it, so I ned to set us just for its windows |
| 20:45.46 | maex | can you send your dcop line? |
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| 20:46.31 | maex | because thats quite cool... (even if noone needs that) |
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| 20:46.36 | amine | hey |
| 20:46.39 | m0t3jl | maex, dcop kxkb kxkb setLayout LAYOUT ;-) |
| 20:46.56 | amine | is there some sort of picture gallery viewer for kde that I can use to view pictures without opening them one at a time? |
| 20:47.05 | m0t3jl | maex, you can as well use dcop kxkb kxkb getLayoutsList to get the list of those layouts available to you |
| 20:47.11 | maex | and that affects just this "session" or window? |
| 20:48.16 | m0t3jl | maex, I would say the window, not the app, because this app is still not able use the cz keyboard for enetering names in the File/Open dialog, but it has the layout set in its main window, that's okay |
| 20:49.01 | maex | well, bad news: there won't be a DCOP in kde4 ;) |
| 20:49.13 | m0t3jl | maex, good news, there will be dbus ;-) |
| 20:49.24 | maex | yes, was just kidding... |
| 20:49.43 | m0t3jl | maex, huh? I thought they were gonna rip the dcop out and just use dbus? |
| 20:49.58 | maex | yes |
| 20:50.18 | maex | but there should be an equal way with dbus |
| 20:50.44 | m0t3jl | maex, but that way should me more system-wide than just kde-wide ;-) |
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| 20:51.30 | Touchene | hello all ! |
| 20:51.32 | maex | no really; you should be able to control (just) kde-apps with dbus |
| 20:52.05 | m0t3jl | maex, I've never really used dbus for anything, but that sounds strange ;-) |
| 20:52.07 | maex | m0t3jl you should be able to talk to any concrete application you want |
| 20:52.32 | Halo | hey |
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| 20:52.47 | Halo | what the hell is that ? |
| 20:52.53 | Halo | i'm just new here !! |
| 20:53.20 | maex | m0t3jl i didn't too, but dbus is 'just' the protocoll on a server that manages 'talking' between too (or more) different applications |
| 20:53.35 | maex | (two, not too) |
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| 20:53.56 | maex | @Halo we're talking about kde stuff |
| 20:54.48 | Jucato | Halo: this is the KDE User Support channel |
| 20:55.22 | DanielW | kde? what's kde? |
| 20:55.34 | Halo | Great !! thanks |
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| 20:55.57 | m0t3jl | maex, its not just for talking between more aps, its also for listening, you can e.g. have a channel where apps would listen for changes of GUIs (like font sizes), so when a certain user changes his font size, the app doing that change, should send it through that channel and all the other apps should then change their font size ;-) |
| 20:56.01 | Jucato | prepares to whack DanielW :) |
| 20:56.04 | DobosCake | How the annoying Alt+F1 bug hasn't been fixed in KDE 4.0.3 yet? |
| 20:56.21 | jpwhiting|workpc | alt-F1? |
| 20:56.29 | DobosCake | yeah.. it doesn't open the K menu. |
| 20:56.39 | Jucato | (heh guessed so...) |
| 20:56.46 | Jucato | it's not in trunk yet either... |
| 20:56.49 | DanielW | not the anonymous sex addicts here? |
| 20:56.50 | jpwhiting|workpc | alt-F2 is so much cooler though... |
| 20:57.00 | Jucato | DanielW: um.. none of that in here please |
| 20:57.07 | Halo | hey, so here we can find whole KDE help ?? |
| 20:57.29 | jpwhiting|workpc | Halo: um, here... |
| 20:57.30 | Jucato | Halo: you can find help here if it's directly related to KDE. |
| 20:57.37 | Jucato | (if not, we'll try to point you where you can go) |
| 20:57.39 | klebezettel | s |
| 20:57.56 | Halo | perfect, you're all awsome ! |
| 20:58.19 | jpwhiting|workpc | Halo: we haven't done anything yet... |
| 20:58.50 | m0t3jl | Halo, If you need something, just ask, stop beating around the bush. |
| 20:59.16 | Halo | Sir yes sir !! ;), i'm just kidding !! |
| 20:59.16 | maex | m0t3jl yes, you're right, but it can manage the talking between apps (like DCOP) too (as far as i know). otherwise ther would be a great leak of DCOP |
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| 21:00.58 | maex | (with leak i mean a missing of DCOP) |
| 21:02.31 | natergator | Anybody in here willing to help me w/ a dbus issue? |
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| 21:02.39 | maex | m0t3jl for example you have to be able to control applications with a IR-remote-control via DBUS |
| 21:02.55 | m0t3jl | maex, yep ;-) |
| 21:03.41 | m0t3jl | maex, but that's the most unlikely thing for me to do with dbus, I hate this sick features like IR remote or something... |
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| 21:04.28 | maex | m0t3jl just an example for the topic "there will not exist an DCOP any more in KDE4" |
| 21:05.06 | m0t3jl | maex, okay |
| 21:05.37 | maex | m0t3jl we will see in a few month or years... |
| 21:06.00 | m0t3jl | maex, hehe, I am looking forward ;-) |
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| 21:06.31 | maex | natergator what are you in? KDE4? |
| 21:06.44 | natergator | yes, KDE4.0.3 |
| 21:06.55 | oneforall | in konq kde3.5.9 what would make my curser stuck as the + |
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| 21:07.59 | maex | natergator i'm not used to work with dbus but whats the prob? |
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| 21:08.39 | natergator | maex: i keep getting a bunch of errors after startup related to dbus in .xsession-errors |
| 21:09.03 | natergator | maex: specifically kdeinit4 seems to be trying to start services and whatnot and is not able to communicate on dbus |
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| 21:09.25 | natergator | maex: which is odd, because this is new. it was working like two days ago |
| 21:10.13 | maex | natergator is there a dbus server running? (check with a line like 'ps aux|grep dbus') |
| 21:10.57 | natergator | yes, it shows 3 sep. processes |
| 21:11.22 | natergator | the system daemon, dbus-launch, and a daemon running under my user |
| 21:11.43 | maex | natergator on line ending with a thing like "/usr/bin/dbus-daemon --system" ? |
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| 21:12.37 | natergator | yes, i have "/usr/bin/dbus-daemon --system", "/usr/bin/dbus-launch --sh-syntax --exit-with-session", and "/usr/bin/dbus-daemon --fork --print-pid 6 --print-address 9 --session" |
| 21:13.14 | natergator | maex: actually, I just thought of something. |
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| 21:13.31 | natergator | I ran a emerge --sync, emerge -uDN world the other day (i'm on gentoo) |
| 21:13.48 | natergator | and I bet it clobbered something in my dbus config, esp. security related |
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| 21:15.14 | maex | natergator strange... (youre running gentoo?) i'm afraid i can't help you... |
| 21:15.33 | natergator | maex, no problem. |
| 21:16.08 | tech9iner | so kde mates.. best lean & fast gui path to viewing multipage faxed *.tiff files from konqueror / krusader please?.. my opensuse 10.3 defaults tiffs to gwenview now.. & sux at it sadly.. |
| 21:16.36 | pinotree | tech9iner: do you have some kind of kde4 repository? |
| 21:17.02 | tech9iner | someone in #suse suggested kdegraphics3-fax but not seeing any component of it i can globally assign to open tiffs tho.. |
| 21:17.16 | tech9iner | i have access to kde4 repos yes pinotree .. |
| 21:17.23 | pinotree | tech9iner: kde3: kfax; kde4: okular |
| 21:17.31 | pinotree | both are in their kdegraphics |
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| 21:18.21 | tech9iner | ahhh .. okular.. oh.. kfax eh.. hmmm.. weird pinotree .. i have kdegraphics3 installed.. yet konsole sees no kfax.. hmmm |
| 21:18.44 | tech9iner | perhaps ive not downed all parts yet.. dunno |
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| 21:20.07 | rr72 | hey tech9iner how have you been? |
| 21:20.17 | tech9iner | 's foggy recall used kfax couple yrs back iirc |
| 21:20.48 | tech9iner | rr72: many a moons mate.. busy as hell but getting closer to actually paying me vs my crews tho.. all good.. you? |
| 21:20.58 | rr72 | crappy as usual |
| 21:21.07 | tech9iner | status quo huh rr72 |
| 21:21.20 | tech9iner | all is as it should be in the world.. hehe |
| 21:22.01 | rr72 | becoming more of a reactationary every day |
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| 21:23.18 | maex | does anyone use a kde project management tool and is pleased with it? |
| 21:23.37 | pinotree | kplato or taskjuggler? |
| 21:23.40 | tech9iner | find a slimy old ugly old toad & french kiss it each morning rr72 .. day always goes up from there lad.. always ;]]] |
| 21:23.58 | rr72 | you mean a wife? |
| 21:24.11 | tech9iner | either / or rr72 .. outcomes the same.. |
| 21:24.14 | tech9iner | well.. |
| 21:24.25 | tech9iner | sans the messy expensive divorce sheet that is rr72 ;]] |
| 21:25.49 | maex | pinotree yes, thats what im asking for. what application is better? none of any application gives good possibilities for ex-import which seems to be normal for project management tools doe to the different strategies of the applications... |
| 21:26.20 | maex | pinotree is there an application that you wourk with? |
| 21:26.37 | pinotree | well, i don't have the "reason" to use any |
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| 21:27.14 | tech9iner | tx pinotree !.. kfax is the wiener!.. eh.. erm.. winner even ;]] |
| 21:27.18 | pinotree | what i can say is that kplato should be more "easy", while taskjuggler more powerful, but requires more work to statup |
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| 21:28.05 | I440r | ok, so how do i add a LOGOUT button without also adding a scren saver button |
| 21:28.12 | maex | pinotree yes, my opinion too, but thanks... |
| 21:28.39 | pinotree | I440r: no wya, both are in the same applet |
| 21:28.41 | I440r | i mean. i want a logout buttun but i specifically do not want any "lock"button |
| 21:28.59 | I440r | why do i have to have TWO buttons ? |
| 21:29.22 | maex | pinotree btw: openoffice mentioned that it is going to implement such a thing. do you know something about that? |
| 21:29.40 | pinotree | nope, sorry (did not even know that) |
| 21:29.54 | maex | pinotree thx |
| 21:29.59 | I440r | its not that i care weather i have a screen saver option after hitting the logout button, i just dont want TWO buttons added |
| 21:30.18 | I440r | i want just the red circle "shut down/log out/whatever" button |
| 21:30.21 | I440r | how do i do that |
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| 21:30.36 | pinotree | <pinotree> I440r: no wya, both are in the same applet |
| 21:30.50 | I440r | ok so i have TWO buttons for ONE applet instead of one button |
| 21:30.52 | pinotree | that means, unless the applet allows you to hide one, you can not. |
| 21:30.57 | I440r | thats annoying |
| 21:31.21 | maex | I440r why do you need that? |
| 21:31.22 | I440r | ugh |
| 21:31.29 | pinotree | file a wish on bugs.kde.org, then (plasma product) |
| 21:31.59 | I440r | i do not like having 28465298374659246 buttons on my task bar. i have 5. if i want to add this shutdown it will add TWO more when it SHLOULD be adding just a single button |
| 21:32.24 | pinotree | can you just calm down, for starting? |
| 21:32.32 | pinotree | and secondly, READ what i told you |
| 21:32.34 | I440r | the shutdown window has like 6 options, making "Screen saver" just one more option in that window makes sense |
| 21:32.55 | pinotree | whining here more will have NO, repeat *NO*) purpouse |
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| 21:35.04 | nick01 | anybody knows where konqueror keeps cached pages so I can delete them P? |
| 21:36.24 | nick01 | got it - I found the option to clear it |
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| 21:36.27 | maex | I440r i don't get your problem; i just have three option in the shutdown window; all of them are making sense... |
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| 21:37.46 | I440r | maex er its not the "options" within the shutdown menu. its the whole "add one app, get two extra buttons on taskbar instead of ONE" |
| 21:38.19 | I440r | i want a shutdown or a logout button.. thats one button. if i wanted a screen saver button i would have asked for one |
| 21:38.27 | I440r | but as things are... if i want either of those i get both |
| 21:38.31 | I440r | that was the point |
| 21:38.49 | I440r | i was asking if there was a way to just get the one i want and not the one i dont |
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| 21:39.24 | maex | I440r but the 'applet' has the width of one button, hasn't it? (two small buttons stacked) |
| 21:39.30 | I440r | no |
| 21:39.34 | I440r | it has the width of two buttons |
| 21:39.45 | I440r | one is red and the other is blue. you get TWO buttons |
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| 21:41.17 | maex | I440r (not on my PC) well, a solution would be to create a own entry ('shutdown') that would be just one button that calls 'shutdown' |
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| 21:41.44 | I440r | and if i want to reboot? i WANT the sub menu window |
| 21:41.50 | I440r | i dont want a screen saver at all |
| 21:42.21 | pinotree | wonders whether I440r listened to him... |
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| 21:43.18 | maex | I440r ah, i see, your tray is to small, normally the buttons are stacked... |
| 21:43.49 | I440r | as in instead of being "wide" they are "tall" ? |
| 21:43.54 | I440r | i dont want that either lol |
| 21:44.19 | pinotree | I440r: hello? did you listen to me? |
| 21:44.20 | maex | I440r i mean the 'height'. you can change that... |
| 21:44.29 | I440r | pinotree, yes i did |
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| 21:46.42 | poopix | with kwrite, is there anyway to number the lines on the left side when you are coding something? |
| 21:47.57 | DirkGently | poopix: press F11 |
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| 21:49.07 | poopix | awesome, thanks! |
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| 21:49.45 | DirkGently | pinotree: I've now built okular... it helped me find a bug in the en_GB translation. When I did File->Open, it had "Move to Was&tebin" instead of "Wastebin" in the File Open dialogue |
| 21:49.52 | DirkGently | poopix: np :) |
| 21:50.05 | pinotree | DirkGently: :) |
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| 21:52.18 | DirkGently | I also found an bug - Fit Width causes it to oscillate between scrollbars and no scrollbars |
| 21:54.56 | DirkGently | pinotree: that's using a full desktop png image |
| 21:55.29 | pinotree | oh what coincidence, the same bug was reported no more than 2 hours ago |
| 21:55.38 | pinotree | http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=160628 |
| 21:55.40 | DirkGently | :) |
| 21:56.17 | pinotree | it's a particular combination of page view size, zoom and page size |
| 21:57.05 | DirkGently | well you know it does it with png images now, not just pdf's |
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| 21:57.36 | drdo | guys |
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| 21:57.48 | drdo | how can i change the clock's font size? |
| 21:59.10 | maex | drdo just configure the applet (right click on applet); you mean the applet, don't you? |
| 21:59.17 | DirkGently | drdo: I don't think you can |
| 21:59.42 | DirkGently | except by changing the panel size or adding the date |
| 21:59.46 | drdo | yes, i mean the applet |
| 21:59.49 | drdo | the problem is |
| 21:59.56 | drdo | i set the panel's size to tiny |
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| 22:00.07 | DirkGently | drdo: is it kde 4? |
| 22:00.09 | drdo | and the clock applet's font |
| 22:00.10 | drdo | yes |
| 22:00.14 | drdo | is still big |
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| 22:00.42 | drdo | the numbers get cut in half |
| 22:00.54 | drdo | same thing with the menu |
| 22:01.00 | drdo | the "K" symbol |
| 22:01.03 | DirkGently | drdo: I think you may have to wait |
| 22:01.09 | drdo | wait for? |
| 22:01.10 | DirkGently | it's fixed in 4.1 |
| 22:01.26 | drdo | i see |
| 22:01.28 | DirkGently | I'm using latest svn build |
| 22:01.33 | DirkGently | compiled from source |
| 22:01.35 | maex | drdo oh sorry, no problem in kde 3.x |
| 22:01.47 | drdo | someone thought it would be cool to assume the panel size? :) |
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| 22:02.18 | drdo | DirkGently: i compiled from source |
| 22:02.21 | drdo | but it's the release |
| 22:03.06 | DirkGently | I didn't even realise it had been fixed until I resized it just now |
| 22:03.09 | drdo | wasn't kde4 supposed to be faster? |
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| 22:03.13 | jpwhiting|workpc | drdo: no, nobody thought that, nobody implemented resizing before |
| 22:03.20 | jpwhiting|workpc | s/before/in time/ |
| 22:04.16 | maex | drdo well, qt4 was supposed to be faster and kde told so |
| 22:04.24 | drdo | doesn't feel like it |
| 22:04.57 | lemma | who's bruce? |
| 22:05.02 | DirkGently | only problem is the K button is out of proportion with the menu when it's small |
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| 22:05.20 | tuxick | lo |
| 22:05.25 | drdo | kopete won't work -_- |
| 22:05.27 | drdo | won't connect |
| 22:05.33 | drdo | unless... |
| 22:05.33 | drdo | wait |
| 22:05.41 | tuxick | still no clue about that annoying popup message telling me about blocked popup windows |
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| 22:05.57 | maex | DirkGently hope for a new oxygen-icons release |
| 22:06.00 | tuxick | where does it come from, why does it say i can click on it or find it on status bar? |
| 22:06.17 | tuxick | it's 1) not telling me what it's about 2,3) not true |
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| 22:06.33 | DirkGently | I'm having issues with oxygen |
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| 22:06.49 | DirkGently | icons are okay but tabs seem to truncate the text |
| 22:07.06 | DirkGently | not sure if it's vmware issue or noe |
| 22:07.08 | DirkGently | not |
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| 22:07.45 | drdo | god |
| 22:07.47 | maex | DirkGently tabs? |
| 22:07.52 | drdo | this is awfully slow |
| 22:08.10 | maex | drdo disable the effects! |
| 22:08.16 | drdo | what effects? |
| 22:08.29 | DirkGently | maex: as in settings tabs, etc. |
| 22:08.41 | maex | drdo all effects ( i think its in the "window behaviour" menu)... |
| 22:09.01 | DirkGently | I started looking through bugs to see if it had been reported and gave up |
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| 22:09.17 | drdo | maex: i don't think i have any enabled |
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| 22:09.23 | DirkGently | oxygen style issue |
| 22:09.25 | maex | drdo you are possibly using gl effects? |
| 22:09.38 | drdo | no way |
| 22:09.39 | maex | drdo (openGL/glx) |
| 22:09.47 | drdo | i have desktop effects turned off |
| 22:09.47 | DirkGently | drdo: what PC? |
| 22:10.04 | drdo | pentium-m 1.6 cpu |
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| 22:10.08 | drdo | 512MB RAM |
| 22:10.26 | drdo | farily powerful |
| 22:10.29 | drdo | *fairly |
| 22:10.40 | DirkGently | yeah.. sounds ok.. laptop? |
| 22:10.43 | drdo | yes |
| 22:11.11 | maex | drdo have you "top"ed for the reason? is it Xorg? |
| 22:11.23 | drdo | maex: it's not xorg |
| 22:11.26 | drdo | i have toped |
| 22:11.35 | drdo | nothing is sucking cpu time |
| 22:11.43 | maex | drdo ??? |
| 22:11.59 | drdo | the redrawing of the windows is a bit slow |
| 22:12.12 | maex | drdo so you have 100% idle but everything is slow? |
| 22:12.44 | drdo | more important than that |
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| 22:12.49 | drdo | kopete won't connect |
| 22:12.49 | maex | drdo well, that seems to be a problem of the graphic cards driver... |
| 22:12.55 | drdo | maex: yeah right.... |
| 22:12.58 | drdo | it worked well |
| 22:13.16 | drdo | brb |
| 22:13.27 | maex | drdo i know about a kopete problem; try an older version of kopete... |
| 22:13.59 | maex | drdo i also had an version that couldn't connect |
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| 22:15.41 | maex | drdo: you lost the channel so i repeat: i know about a kopete problem; try an older version of kopete... i also had an version that couldn't connect |
| 22:16.57 | drdo | i just tried kopete 4.0 |
| 22:17.05 | drdo | i had kopete 3.x installed |
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| 22:24.19 | elvirolo | hi everyone |
| 22:24.37 | elvirolo | how does one use solid's network manager? |
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| 22:33.25 | JamesB192 | My KDE 3.5.9 on Gentoo box has mibehaving key modifiers, how do I go about fixing them? |
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| 22:38.07 | Azalar | Hi, Anyone know how to prevent DigiKam creating tags for new images it scans in? |
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| 22:39.51 | SimAtWork | JamesB192: explain in more details? |
| 22:40.39 | SimAtWork | JamesB192: probably you haev to go to control panel, regional and accessabilty, keyboard shortcuts, select a different theme |
| 22:41.21 | JamesB192 | In a konsole session for example the arrow keys do not work correctly, the down arrow defaulted to the screen capture program for example. |
| 22:41.36 | SimAtWork | sounds like you have the wrong keyboard selected entirely |
| 22:41.55 | SimAtWork | instead of keyboard shortcuts go to keyboard layout |
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| 22:44.00 | _Poseidon_ | Hello |
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| 22:44.59 | JamesB192 | It looks like the right keyboard... I know it's a Cheapo MS something and last time I check I typed in US english however badly... |
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| 22:49.36 | JamesB192 | That wasn't it. |
| 22:50.57 | _Poseidon_ | When I plug a pendrive a icon appears in the desktop. So when I click it it mounts and open konqueror showing the files in the pendrive. |
| 22:51.40 | _Poseidon_ | But in the direction toolbar appears "media:/sdb" |
| 22:52.17 | _Poseidon_ | I want that it shows the mount point (for example /media/disk) |
| 22:52.32 | _Poseidon_ | Is it possible? |
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| 22:53.34 | JamesB192 | <_Poseidon_> I think it is, I'm just not bright enough to solve it... |
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| 22:54.55 | JamesB192 | I mean if all else fails I suppose you could make konqueror grep against /etc/mtab or something. |
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| 22:55.52 | JamesB192 | slaps self, 'I meant /proc/mtab'. |
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| 23:02.57 | SimAtWork | does anyone know if php has any way to do QT similar to pyQt ? |
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| 23:04.02 | pinotree | parse error... |
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| 23:07.17 | jpwhiting|workpc | SimAtWork: um, php is for websites... |
| 23:07.28 | jpwhiting|workpc | Qt is for desktop/embedded |
| 23:08.00 | SimAtWork | jpwhiting|workpc: yes yes, but php is not limittd to websites. |
| 23:08.12 | jpwhiting|workpc | ok |
| 23:08.17 | jpwhiting|workpc | true |
| 23:08.25 | SimAtWork | it is a general purpose scripting language. |
| 23:08.35 | jpwhiting|workpc | but no, I don't think anyone has made php bindings for Qt |
| 23:08.39 | SimAtWork | i just want to make a simple front end. |
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| 23:08.49 | SimAtWork | oh well, i guess i can redo it in python then |
| 23:08.51 | SimAtWork | thnx jpwhiting|workpc |
| 23:08.56 | jpwhiting|workpc | good idea |
| 23:08.59 | jpwhiting|workpc | np |
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| 23:24.19 | milliams | SimAtWork: I'm pretty sure there were php bindings for Qt and maybe even KDE. I saw them a few years ago though. |
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| 23:28.31 | shadok | milliams: http://php-qt.org/ PHP5 bindings for the Qt4 framework. |
| 23:30.14 | milliams | SimAtWork: ^^ I just found that too |
| 23:30.14 | SimAtWork | WOOOOOOOOT |
| 23:30.14 | SimAtWork | thanks guys! |
| 23:30.14 | SimAtWork | i'll have to remember the word "bindings" for future searches |
| 23:31.09 | shadok | :) |
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