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| 00:08.50 | brinkdale | kde 4 / fedora 9 beta.. toshiba A135-S2426 all working perfect,, however when i try to delte files using dolphin.. it crashes.. not a problem i just reopenit..is there already a fix ? |
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| 00:13.28 | murrant | brinkdale: have you considered updating to fedora 9 final |
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| 00:52.43 | mi | huh every update from KDE svn i must delete moc files in build folder |
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| 00:53.08 | g2g591 | uh, why ? |
| 00:53.21 | mi | don't know |
| 00:53.23 | g2g591 | mi: you don't |
| 00:53.55 | mi | if I don't do that I get compile errors |
| 00:54.31 | g2g591 | hmm |
| 00:56.07 | g2g591 | había una vez ... (just testing my adjusted keymap) |
| 00:56.17 | mi | lol |
| 00:56.31 | g2g591 | once upon a time ... |
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| 00:58.20 | mi | weather applet is not update |
| 00:58.38 | mi | all day temperature is 25 C |
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| 01:10.02 | mi | http://jpoortvliet.nielsvm.org/1-plasma.ogv |
| 01:10.04 | mi | lol |
| 01:11.42 | kunim | hello, i'm having (serious) performance problems with konsole 4 using the nvidia binary drivers (169.12) - it's less than half the speed of konsole 3 (caused by massive xorg load as it seems) any hints? |
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| 01:15.58 | g2g591 | kunim: i think thats a distro issue, let me verify |
| 01:16.42 | mi | kunim, ubuntu ? |
| 01:16.48 | kunim | yes hardy.. |
| 01:17.02 | g2g591 | kunim: its not happening here in Gentoo |
| 01:17.11 | mi | i have here ubuntu and have same problem |
| 01:17.13 | mi | so |
| 01:17.32 | mi | i think xorg in hardy is very bad |
| 01:17.38 | kunim | hmm possibly |
| 01:17.47 | kunim | any bug ticket? |
| 01:17.53 | kunim | or something else? |
| 01:17.53 | kunim | hmm |
| 01:18.06 | kunim | custom xorg? :) |
| 01:18.07 | g2g591 | its seems like some flub in (K)Ubuntu |
| 01:18.13 | mi | i read that ubuntu people install old xorg from GG |
| 01:18.34 | kunim | is inclined to install gentoo again :) |
| 01:18.44 | mi | lol |
| 01:19.13 | g2g591 | left Kubuntu because of crappy KDE 4 packageing ,and for something a bit different and harder to learn |
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| 01:19.33 | mi | no need u can compile KDE4 from svn |
| 01:19.50 | kunim | but you still hit a broken xorg server :) |
| 01:19.53 | g2g591 | mi: yeah I know, I use Gentoo ebuilds for that all the time |
| 01:20.11 | kunim | yeah, yeah you can compile xorg from svn :) |
| 01:20.34 | mi | g2g591, i compile KDE4 from svn and looks better then KDE4 from ubuntu repo |
| 01:20.48 | g2g591 | its nice being able to make svn packages and have the OS treat it like any other package |
| 01:21.10 | g2g591 | (easily of course) it is possible on all distros ,but lots harder |
| 01:21.43 | g2g591 | mi: they look the same here on Gentoo, except the added features of course |
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| 01:21.58 | kunim | hmm actually i had the xorg performance problem with gutsy too (that used 7.2 and hardy is at 7.3) |
| 01:22.23 | kunim | so might be worth to check ubuntu patches to vanilla xorg.. :( |
| 01:22.45 | g2g591 | likes the vanilla flavor of Gentoo |
| 01:23.03 | mi | kunim, I think xorg on hardy is make problem in compiz 2 |
| 01:23.35 | mi | better 2 compile xorg |
| 01:23.42 | mi | :) |
| 01:23.56 | mi | if u use ubuntu don't use repo |
| 01:23.59 | mi | :D |
| 01:24.06 | kunim | throws an epatch on g2g591 |
| 01:24.22 | kunim | lol |
| 01:24.49 | g2g591 | finds that there are lots of packages that say DONT FILE GENTOO bugs , file upstream bugs instead . not so with buntu |
| 01:26.14 | g2g591 | has basic ebuild experiance and can make a svn/cvs ebuild from a stable ebuild , if allowed to occasionally glance at the documentation and examples |
| 01:26.16 | kunim | 62 patches against vanilla xorg ..arg.. |
| 01:26.24 | g2g591 | kunim: ew |
| 01:26.26 | kunim | (xserver-xorg-core alone) |
| 01:26.41 | mi | kaffeineGL looks great |
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| 01:29.13 | g2g591 | kunim: well, on gentoo, we have 3 |
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| 01:30.16 | g2g591 | kunim: oh wait, its more, but they are all clearly labled on what each patch does |
| 01:30.35 | kunim | luckly they are labeled under ubuntu too :) |
| 01:30.45 | g2g591 | kunim: darn them hiding some epatchs in the eclass(s) |
| 01:30.54 | kunim | but i might throw a stage3 in a chroot and do some background compiling :) |
| 01:32.37 | kunim | still unclear why this problem is not fixed yet - as i guess it's not *that* uncommon :( |
| 01:32.47 | kunim | tries to find a launchpad entry |
| 01:33.17 | mi | kunim, ati or nvidia? |
| 01:33.19 | g2g591 | man i hate ebuilds that rely on tons of speciallized calls , like , x-modular_specs_check ,x-modular_patch_source,x-modular_unpack_source ,x-modular_src_install |
| 01:33.30 | kunim | mi nvidia 8800gt |
| 01:33.59 | g2g591 | I pwn you kunim, I got a nvidia 6150LE , onboard |
| 01:34.08 | kunim | g2g591: heh well xorg is a monster :) though a very modular one nowadayss.. |
| 01:34.08 | g2g591 | lol |
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| 01:37.50 | g2g591 | kunim: hmm in the files directory of xorg-server, i found 90 patches, though, i don't THINK all of them are applied ,because some are for older versions |
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| 01:38.37 | kunim | hm well it's not the number but the proper or wrong one to spot :) |
| 01:39.28 | g2g591 | i know, but just one wrong patch can break a package |
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| 01:40.12 | kunim | yep. and ubuntu might have one :/.. atleast qt4/konsole4 is affected,, |
| 01:40.24 | kunim | (with my setup atleast) |
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| 01:41.16 | Yarcanox | where is the KDE trash bin folder? |
| 01:41.28 | Yarcanox | I am using gnome and just deleted something accidentially/moved it to the trash, but it's not there |
| 01:41.31 | g2g591 | kunim: well, with my setup, on gentoo with qt 4.4.0rc1 (its split into different packages),i have missing right click menu text in kde svn |
| 01:42.07 | brinkdale | Yarcanox: this is kde open up your konqueror browser its listed there |
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| 01:42.31 | Yarcanox | yes |
| 01:42.34 | Yarcanox | and it's a KDE app |
| 01:42.38 | Yarcanox | but I don't have KDE |
| 01:42.48 | Yarcanox | but that app moved it to the KDE trash, whereever that is, not to gnome's trashbin |
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| 01:43.07 | Yarcanox | huh :) but I had konqueror installed anyway... there it is |
| 01:43.13 | Yarcanox | the hidden second trashbin :) |
| 01:43.14 | Yarcanox | thanks |
| 01:43.29 | brinkdale | your welcome Yarcanox happy germany |
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| 01:45.00 | Yarcanox | :) |
| 01:49.15 | brinkdale | not that this is a problem or anything, but in the older KDE I used to be able to assign each desktop the background of the aplication i used there.. i seem only to have the option of changing all desktops not desktop 1 ,2 ,3 etc ? anyone else found a work around ? |
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| 01:59.25 | RingtailedFox | hiya, i have an issue with Kaffeine... it doesn't play DVDs |
| 02:00.15 | brinkdale | RingtailedFox: have you installed the non extras ? |
| 02:00.41 | RingtailedFox | yes |
| 02:00.49 | brinkdale | RingtailedFox: i removed the totem player and instaled totem-xine mine works now |
| 02:01.02 | RingtailedFox | where cani get totem-xine? |
| 02:01.10 | brinkdale | but i had to remove the old totem even though i use kaffeine |
| 02:01.22 | RingtailedFox | ok |
| 02:01.27 | brinkdale | RingtailedFox: there is a help file on the fedora forum |
| 02:01.37 | brinkdale | i can find you the link if you gimme a second |
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| 02:05.01 | brinkdale | RingtailedFox: i used this help mine works now http://www.firewing1.com/content/view/62/36/ |
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| 02:12.10 | RingtailedFox | i use mandriva and don't have yum |
| 02:13.33 | brinkdale | RingtailedFox: just look for the install libdvdcss libdvdread libdvdplay libdvdnav lsdvd libdvbpsi in your version |
| 02:15.17 | RingtailedFox | ok |
| 02:15.22 | RingtailedFox | thanks, brinkdale |
| 02:16.06 | brinkdale | RingtailedFox: try this http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Mandriva#How_to_install_DVD_playback_capability |
| 02:16.38 | brinkdale | RingtailedFox: your welcome |
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| 02:18.16 | RingtailedFox | hmm...can't find libdvdplay |
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| 02:23.45 | RingtailedFox | do you know where i can get libdvdplay? |
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| 02:24.52 | brinkdale | RingtailedFox: i am so sorry i am used to fedora linux.. the help file i posted it the best i can do.. look on more ubuntu forums etc..? |
| 02:25.42 | RingtailedFox | i use mandriva, though :) |
| 02:25.58 | RingtailedFox | i will never again use edu/k/ubuntu becuase it crashes and freezes too much |
| 02:26.08 | RingtailedFox | it aims to be so much like windows, that it succeeds in the instability area :) |
| 02:27.48 | brinkdale | RingtailedFox: i also tried kubuntu but as per normal i finally settled on fedora.. it was the best for me.. |
| 02:28.02 | brinkdale | and i even ran the beta fedora 9 for 3 weeks no problems |
| 02:28.33 | RingtailedFox | nods |
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| 02:38.51 | RingtailedFox | does anyone know where i can get libdvdnav and libdvdplay? |
| 02:40.14 | brinkdale | RingtailedFox: wget -c http://download.videolan.org/pub/libdvdcss/1.2.9/rpm/libdvdcss2-1.2.9-1.i386.rpm rpm -i libdvdcss2-1.2.9-1.i386.rpm |
| 02:41.19 | brinkdale | http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Mandriva#How_to_install_DVD_playback_capability RingtailedFox go there |
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| 02:42.43 | jpin | Does anyone have a suggestion for the "kdeinit could not launch /programX" problem? (i'm kind of sick of it) |
| 02:42.59 | RingtailedFox | symbolic links? |
| 02:43.56 | jpin | RingtailedFox: it happens all the time when i try to open something through dolphin/konqueror |
| 02:44.11 | RingtailedFox | i take it you run KDE4? |
| 02:44.53 | jpin | RingtailedFox: yeah |
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| 02:45.04 | jpin | 4.0.72 |
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| 02:49.02 | jpin | dolphin doesn't respond after opening a simple text file... (anyone with this problem also?) |
| 02:49.29 | macisp2000 | Anyone having trouble with Fedora 9 KDE and sound. I have never had a sound card issue with linux on two of my older P4 Intel boards, but all I get is a pop or two, no sound. Any ideas? |
| 02:49.56 | brinkdale | jpin i fixed mine using this .... icon settings and goto Application => Advanced Options => DBus Registration => none |
| 02:50.42 | brinkdale | macisp2000: any more info i had sound card issues to... on an intell celeron M .. more input please |
| 02:52.03 | jpin | brinkdale: "icon settings..?" |
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| 02:52.24 | macisp2000 | I just tried Gnome version and all is fine. On the KDE version, it shows Pulse Audio with a Question Mark Icon, and then about four more listings of which one is the correct chipset. They are intel 845 and 865 boards. It has something to do with KDE 4 since Gnome works. |
| 02:52.38 | brinkdale | jpin: are you trying to use a kde 3 application ? |
| 02:53.04 | jpin | brinkdale: i'm using some i guess (kmail) but kwrite is kde4 |
| 02:53.25 | brinkdale | macisp2000: i had to turn off pulse in kde 4 and get new alsa .... but i have no more knowledge than that |
| 02:53.28 | jpin | brinkdale: but how did you fixed yours again? "icon settings.." where's that? |
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| 02:54.18 | macisp2000 | How do you turn it off and add ALSA? |
| 02:54.40 | brinkdale | jpin i can only offer you my help files .... > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase-kde4/+bug/184337 |
| 02:54.45 | macisp2000 | The Gnome version is nice, installing and playing with it on some other machines while trying to figure this out. |
| 02:55.15 | brinkdale | macisp2000: gimme a second i will hunt down my fixes sorry only a dail up here |
| 02:55.49 | jpin | brinkdale: thanks |
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| 02:56.48 | macisp2000 | no prob |
| 02:58.04 | brinkdale | macisp2000: i will hunt down the problem i had it has to do with the pulse audio and alsa i know it cause i had the same troubles.. gime a sec ok |
| 02:59.39 | macisp2000 | ok |
| 03:00.28 | brinkdale | macisp2000: silly question but do you get sound as su aka root in kde ? |
| 03:00.39 | brinkdale | thats what my problem was here is my fix |
| 03:00.50 | brinkdale | http://www.fedoraforum.org/forum/printthread.php?t=171083&page=4&pp=15 |
| 03:01.09 | brinkdale | but there are other issues that are also addressed in the fedora forum too |
| 03:01.21 | brinkdale | i used in fedora a search for dangermouse... |
| 03:01.32 | brinkdale | and he has a nice install program called 9 |
| 03:01.37 | brinkdale | specialy made for fed9 |
| 03:01.44 | brinkdale | it fixed all my issues |
| 03:02.14 | brinkdale | autonine its called |
| 03:02.43 | macisp2000 | thank you |
| 03:03.03 | brinkdale | i hope it helps please feal free to carry on. we will fix you .. i can try my best |
| 03:03.25 | macisp2000 | It's like it is trying to make sounds, but I just get little pops |
| 03:03.40 | brinkdale | macisp2000: thats all i had too .. i hear you there |
| 03:03.49 | brinkdale | and yet as root it played perfect |
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| 03:04.12 | macisp2000 | It worked fine with Kubuntu KDE4, Between the video stuff and sound stuff, I could just kill linux sometimes....lol |
| 03:04.55 | brinkdale | oh well in fedora i love the hold... ctrl Atl and esc lovly little mouse pointer kills all you need to lol |
| 03:05.20 | brinkdale | macisp2000: but once running linux rocks .. we even had the same issues in windows .. just hang on we will fix it |
| 03:07.24 | macisp2000 | I have turned into a linux junkie. I have tried just about all distros, I like PCLinuxOS the best, but they seem to be lagging on updates, and Sabayon is great for a all on one install DVD, but that Gentoo stuff is suppose to be fast, but runs much slower than anything else I have installed. No sure why. |
| 03:08.32 | brinkdale | well macisp2000 i converted 97 pcs at school to fedora.. i been with them at home since fed3 etc.. once tuned i usually find fedora comunity to be the best... and i am a kde freak |
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| 03:10.51 | macisp2000 | I am learning, but I keep hitting the speed bumps and get frustrated, but I get over it and move on. |
| 03:11.41 | brinkdale | macisp2000: i am know way a guru on KDE` i am sure there will be much more help , just hang on ok , never give up |
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| 03:14.08 | macisp2000 | I also get frustrated with not have the codecs install. I understand the whole FREE thing, but now Fedora is telling me I need to pay for plugins to watch my dvds? I also can't get desktop effects going, from past experience, I guess this is because of the generic video driver, any help with these? |
| 03:14.42 | brinkdale | macisp2000: yes yes |
| 03:14.42 | Jucato | macisp2000: Gentoo stuff is *supposed to be fast* by virtue of the fact that it compiles from source code with optimizations you set for your specific computer and situation. afaik, Sabayon provides binaries/pre-compiled packages, so that Gentoo advantage is lost along the way |
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| 03:15.28 | brinkdale | macisp2000: use this link please ..> http://www.firewing1.com/content/view/62/36/ |
| 03:15.45 | Jucato | you need a video card driver that supports 3D acceleration, usually the card's binary driver. you will have to ask in your distro's channel how to install the correct driver |
| 03:16.37 | macisp2000 | I did get use to PCLinuxOS, just open up synaptics and install away, just like to check out all distros and learn overall. |
| 03:17.38 | lilltiger | Gentoo probly feels to run slower cos you arent using any preloading/prelinking |
| 03:17.51 | macisp2000 | I did try the alpha of PCBSD, and I loved the option during boot to run the display setup again so when you torch xorg playing around, this should be in all distro boot options. lol |
| 03:17.59 | Jucato | lilltiger: I think he was using Sabayon |
| 03:18.25 | Jucato | (or not... *shrugs*) |
| 03:18.42 | lilltiger | Jucato: Well not sure if that includes any of the prelin or preload options be default.. never tried it |
| 03:19.14 | Jucato | it uses binary packages... that fact alone reduces any chance of personal optimization... |
| 03:19.19 | Jucato | (afaik) |
| 03:19.45 | lilltiger | yes, but I think it also provies access to the gentoo portage, but im unsure |
| 03:20.15 | lilltiger | and well most dists are equally fast.. only ubuntu and thoes are slower then the rest :) |
| 03:20.39 | lilltiger | but thats cos they have so much crap runing in the background |
| 03:22.12 | brinkdale | lilltiger: i agree with you there specially Kubuntu.. wow slower than windows ME |
| 03:22.12 | lilltiger | The compile optimizations gained in gentoo is unnoticable without heavy benchmarking, gentoos advantage is thats it's always very up to date but still very stable |
| 03:22.51 | lilltiger | brinkdale: well thats not true.. nothing is slower then win ME, but yhee it's silly slow |
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| 03:23.34 | lilltiger | im using archlinux and is quite happy with it |
| 03:24.37 | lilltiger | unfortunally the kde in arch isent very good yet :( |
| 03:24.49 | illogical | kde4 in arch you mean |
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| 03:25.06 | illogical | unless they messed up kde3 too... |
| 03:25.15 | lilltiger | naa kde3 aswell :( |
| 03:25.33 | lilltiger | well they have an unmodded monolistisk kde.. |
| 03:25.41 | illogical | really? arch packages used too be really good. |
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| 03:26.01 | illogical | yeah, those are the ones i was referring to, not kde-mod |
| 03:26.10 | lilltiger | but well thats so "bloated" i want an splited kde.. and arch got kdemod for that and well some of the modding they have done is quite annoying |
| 03:26.48 | lilltiger | the monolistik ones are probly good and native |
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| 03:27.46 | lilltiger | kdemod4 is 4.0.69 now i think.. and thst got some annoying graphical bugs |
| 03:27.59 | lilltiger | and crashes quite often |
| 03:34.53 | Medieval | I am trying to compile Nepomuk, without success. I get - Unknown CMake command "kde4_add_executable". |
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| 03:35.56 | illogical | Medieval: os x? |
| 03:37.04 | Medieval | illogical: Linux Mint 4.0 (Ubuntu Gutsy Gibbon) |
| 03:37.06 | brinkdale | kill bill xlax live cd ... thats kde finest lol |
| 03:37.38 | illogical | Medieval: ah. i've seen that error in kdeutils in os x. |
| 03:37.44 | illogical | don't know how to fix it though. |
| 03:38.25 | Medieval | illogical: hmm, ok; thanks. Have you tried Raptor Menu by the way? |
| 03:39.06 | illogical | Medieval: i have not. |
| 03:39.27 | illogical | the kde desktop doesn't install in os x. so the menu's pretty useless to me :-) |
| 03:40.33 | Medieval | ah, ok |
| 03:40.34 | brinkdale | has anyone had dolphin and/or konq crash every time they try to delete a few files aka trash them/crash only in multiples not in singles ? |
| 03:41.49 | Medieval | brinkdale: I did a bit of cleaning up today. Deleted multiple files as well. While it did crash on me when I was playing around with other things, it worked fine for the file operations. |
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| 03:42.21 | Medieval | brinkdale: I don't have Nepomuk enabled though |
| 03:42.38 | brinkdale | Medieval: thanks i know there are updates in summer aka more background options.. but i can single delete all files.. but when i drag drop.. it crashes both dolphin and konq |
| 03:42.40 | lilington | hello |
| 03:42.50 | brinkdale | hello lilington |
| 03:43.11 | lilington | this is my first time to come on irc network :) |
| 03:43.24 | brinkdale | lilington: welcome to irc then |
| 03:43.25 | drantin | welcome lilington |
| 03:43.37 | lilington | you all are so nice thanks |
| 03:43.43 | Medieval | brinkdale: I didn't drag and drop I guess. Let me try. |
| 03:43.46 | lilington | can you tell me what is about here |
| 03:44.00 | brinkdale | Medieval: thanks would be a great help |
| 03:44.20 | brinkdale | lilington: if you have any problems with kde ask here and chat away ! |
| 03:44.36 | lilington | i see |
| 03:45.00 | lilington | i'm using fedora 8 and kde |
| 03:45.18 | brinkdale | lilington: nice start are you new to linux ? |
| 03:45.36 | lilington | no |
| 03:45.49 | lilington | i start with fedora 1 |
| 03:45.59 | lilington | but it tooks long time to be free |
| 03:46.04 | lilington | (windows) |
| 03:46.09 | lilington | now i'm totaly free |
| 03:46.14 | lilington | haha |
| 03:46.25 | lilington | i have one problem it is typing chinese caracteres |
| 03:46.30 | brinkdale | most of us are.. unless its W0rk related ....sigh |
| 03:46.40 | lilington | some cannot been displayed |
| 03:46.42 | Medieval | brinkdale: Just dragged and dropped multiple files into Trash. Worked fine. I have the yesterday's build from trunk. Version of Dolphin is 1.0.99 (KDE version 4.0.73) |
| 03:47.18 | Medieval | have yesterday's* |
| 03:47.23 | lilington | it is not a KDE environment problem but kde programs |
| 03:47.40 | lilington | when i'm using gnom program i can write chinese |
| 03:47.50 | brinkdale | Medieval: thank you very much sir.. will have to look at my settings... i highlighted like 3 files clicked right mouse to use trash and poof program closed each time the second time i tried it..however single worked fine..thank you |
| 03:49.10 | drantin | lilington: it may or may not help, but you could try installing the chinese fonts via KDE's kcontrol or systemsettings program (depending on KDE3 or 4) |
| 03:49.34 | lilington | kde3 but i did it |
| 03:49.51 | drantin | still no luck? |
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| 03:49.54 | lilington | i think i need to download something else |
| 03:50.00 | brinkdale | Medieval: one quesion if i may.. do you like the new KDE4 + .. or prefer 3 version ? |
| 03:50.08 | lilington | cos on my laptop i do not have this problem |
| 03:50.23 | lilington | (sorry for misstake my native language is french) |
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| 03:52.38 | drantin | have you also installed skim? (the kde frontend for configuring scim) |
| 03:52.55 | lilington | let me see |
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| 03:54.12 | lilington | the comand "where is skim" doesn't return anithing i gonna yum it now |
| 03:55.35 | Medieval | brinkdale: Before KDE4, I did not really take any side. I played around with all the DEs and used anything and everything. I think with KDE4, I am a KDE fan now. KDE4 is phenomenal |
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| 03:56.32 | drantin | lilington: is that the same as running 'which skim' ? |
| 03:56.44 | brinkdale | Medieval: yes i agree... i just want the new sumer release to be able to make each desktop ..specific for my programs i was told its in the new release.. i do like al my desktops to be different..but i CAN and will wait |
| 03:57.07 | lilington | i got a : no package skim available .when yumming |
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| 03:59.14 | lilington | whereis skim is about to tell me in which file (folder)i can find skim |
| 03:59.26 | lilington | u can try for example where is xorg |
| 03:59.32 | lilington | whereis xorg |
| 03:59.39 | Medieval | brinkdale: Yes, I'm sure it's supported; just not added to the GUI |
| 04:02.11 | lilington | some thing is strange. i don't have this problem with my laptop using kde3 and update every time |
| 04:02.23 | lilington | but my desktop has it |
| 04:02.50 | lilington | so i move to gnome in my desktop |
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| 04:19.41 | lilington | ops |
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| 05:14.03 | homoludens | hi all: does anyone know whether it is possible to have the tabs in konqueror ordered vertically, and how to go about it? thanks. |
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| 05:19.28 | mohankumar | where are kontact information (like journal entries) stored? |
| 05:19.45 | mohankumar | i have installed f9 and before that i did a complete backup of my home directory |
| 05:20.03 | mohankumar | i want to restore my kontact journal entries now |
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| 05:20.38 | kishore | mohankumar: it should be part of your calendar file |
| 05:21.01 | kishore | so that must be .kde/share/apps/korganizer |
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| 06:24.12 | Gokee2 | Is there any way to refreash the desktop in kde4 to show whats in my desktop folder? WHat about delete something on the desktop? |
| 06:25.50 | lemma_ | Gokee2: kde3 or 4? |
| 06:26.31 | oneforall | hmm weird clicked on a .asf file in konq and it has save or open in kwrite O.o |
| 06:26.36 | Jucato | lemma_ I think he mentioned kde4 :D |
| 06:26.50 | lemma_ | Jucato: ah, uhm.. |
| 06:26.57 | lemma_ | Gokee2: sorry, still early morning :) |
| 06:30.51 | Gokee2 | lemma, NP :) I could would have responded sooner but could not get to this screen. Synergy fails a LOT for me with kde4... I gave up and picked up this keybord. |
| 06:30.52 | lemma_ | Gokee2: unfortunately I don't know the answer to your question.. |
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| 06:33.20 | Gokee2 | Hmm... Well I am thinking I might go back to kde3.... I can`t seem to get anything done in kde4. I am rather surprised kde would release such a unfinished product... |
| 06:34.30 | Gokee2 | Or I could try xfce again for my main computer, but last time I did that the copy/paste through synergy did not work |
| 06:34.56 | lemma_ | xfce would be too barren for me |
| 06:35.16 | Gokee2 | Thinking of xfce anyone happen to know why kde4 would have problems starting thunar from a launcher? |
| 06:35.39 | Gokee2 | xfce is a little light on a lot of stuff... Thats why I use kde for my main comp |
| 06:36.05 | lemma_ | Gokee2: does it throw any error launching it using krunner? |
| 06:36.16 | Gokee2 | But then kde4 is a lot light on some stuff... Like moving things around on the taskbar.... Even xfce has that... :) |
| 06:36.26 | Gokee2 | No it just never comes up |
| 06:36.39 | Gokee2 | Er wait krunner? |
| 06:37.12 | lemma_ | Gokee2: yeah, krunner is what you get if you press alt+f2 |
| 06:37.23 | lemma_ | Gokee2: or did you refer to a launcher on the taskbar/desktop? |
| 06:37.33 | Gokee2 | On the taskbar |
| 06:37.49 | Gokee2 | can`t see... One sec I am going to take my contacts off |
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| 06:38.15 | lemma_ | Gokee2: that seems strange indeed. is thunar the only program you can't start from the launcher? |
| 06:38.28 | livinded | how do I set the default gtk theme while using kde? |
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| 06:39.25 | lemma_ | livinded: kde3 or kde4? |
| 06:39.28 | livinded | kde4 |
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| 06:39.53 | lemma_ | livinded: there's a gtk-kde4 on kde-apps. you can use that from the systemsetting I think |
| 06:40.28 | livinded | how is it done in kde3? |
| 06:40.37 | lemma_ | livinded: with gtk-kde3 :D |
| 06:41.11 | Gokee2 | lemma, Its the only one I have tried that does not start. (thuner starts great from the konsole) I have konquror thunderbird konsole and firefox launching fine |
| 06:41.31 | lemma_ | livinded: not sure if that's maybe even installed by default. |
| 06:41.59 | lemma_ | Gokee2: pretty strange. are you using a stable release or a prerelease? |
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| 06:42.36 | Gokee2 | ubuntu hardy`s realease.. I can get you a number on that after I kill synergts on that computer and get my controlls back |
| 06:42.56 | lemma_ | Gokee2: ah no, that's one of the 4.0.x releases |
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| 06:43.18 | lemma_ | Gokee2: however if problems persist try filing a bug report against plasma |
| 06:43.31 | livinded | lemma_: I'm trying to figure out how it is done in fedora 8, it doesn't use that, but I can't get it to work in fedora 9 |
| 06:44.01 | Gokee2 | has filled out a lot of bug reports lately |
| 06:44.04 | livinded | I can manually modify the .kde/share/config/gtkrc-2 but whenever I restart kde the theme goes back to default |
| 06:44.10 | Gokee2 | (mostly on ubuntu`s stuff) |
| 06:44.28 | Gokee2 | Yay, synergys came back up! |
| 06:44.51 | lemma_ | livinded: I think you have to install something first. just setting a kde theme in gtkrc doesn't work |
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| 06:46.56 | Gokee2 | Hmm also kwrite gives me a lot of problems but works... |
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| 06:47.39 | hayig2000 | hi all, if i want to post a bug with the correct debug symbols, which repo/package to install?, i am using suse10.3 |
| 06:47.44 | Gokee2 | At least I think its kwrite that is doing it they just apper in my konsole tab that I started a few kwrite`s in the backgound in |
| 06:49.09 | livinded | lemma_: it works great until I logout of kde |
| 06:49.22 | livinded | something is overwriting the file |
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| 06:50.55 | Gokee2 | And one last thing... Anyone know why the comment out function ctr+d no longer works in kwrite? |
| 06:51.43 | Gokee2 | Ah wait it does now... nevermind |
| 06:52.20 | Gokee2 | should really find something better then kwrite to program in someday |
| 06:53.05 | lemma | livinded: don't you have the gtk style settings in kcontrol? |
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| 06:54.03 | livinded | lemma: kcontrol? |
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| 07:14.06 | fde | hayig2000: Ask in #suse ... |
| 07:14.23 | hayig2000 | ok |
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| 07:24.06 | rdancer | what's the Qt 4.4 equivalent of QFileInfoListIterator.current() ? |
| 07:24.52 | thiago_home | and QFileInfoListIterator was used when? |
| 07:25.25 | rdancer | 3.something |
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| 07:25.45 | thiago_home | can't find it in the docs |
| 07:25.49 | rdancer | worked with KDE 3.5 |
| 07:26.42 | thiago_home | look up the docs of whatever function you're calling now |
| 07:26.47 | rdancer | the real question is, how do i examine files in a directory, one by one |
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| 07:31.13 | rdancer | this is the code i'm trying to port: http://rafb.net/p/g5iBVc41.html |
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| 07:34.56 | pinotree | rdancer: #qt please |
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| 07:36.50 | JonCruz | So if I'm making a list of graphics apps like GIMP, CinePaint, Krita, etc., what should I be sure to include in it? |
| 07:36.54 | lemma_ | rdancer: QFileInfoList is just a typedef. see QList<QFileInfo> |
| 07:37.05 | mi | http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/3039/snapshot6hb1.png |
| 07:37.08 | lemma_ | rdancer: and the according iterator |
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| 07:44.03 | djdarkman | hello, where does kontact keeps it`s lock files? |
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| 07:45.08 | kishore | djdarkman: why? what is the problem? i dont think kontact has lock files |
| 07:45.32 | kishore | i may be wrong though |
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| 08:01.01 | thiago | korganiser does |
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| 08:16.02 | fde | Isn't "emergency FAQ" a little melodramatic? |
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| 08:27.44 | kishore | thiago: ah yes.. sorry. In my head kontact is still separate from kmail/korganizer etc. |
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| 08:28.09 | fde | Does kwallet use SSL at all? |
| 08:28.40 | pinotree | kwallet? what for? |
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| 08:29.23 | fde | pinotree: decrypting things in the wallet? |
| 08:29.35 | pinotree | nope |
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| 08:29.49 | thiago | fde: no, it doesn't use SSL |
| 08:29.57 | thiago | SSL stands for "Secure *Sockets* Layer" |
| 08:30.02 | thiago | there are no sockets involved. |
| 08:30.26 | fde | That's what I thought... just making sure I didn't mis-inform... |
| 08:30.52 | fde | Does any part of KDE use SSL? If so, what for? |
| 08:31.05 | thiago | yes, for sockets |
| 08:31.12 | fde | Maybe kopete for MSN? |
| 08:31.13 | thiago | kio_http uses it for HTTPS |
| 08:32.30 | JonCruz | perhaps also look for its replacement name "TLS" |
| 08:32.31 | JonCruz | :-) |
| 08:32.38 | sep | and fish probably |
| 08:33.02 | thiago | kwallet encrypts the data, of course |
| 08:33.04 | GraveDigger | usually does mail traffic over ssl sockets with kmail... works well |
| 08:33.29 | thiago | but it's not a public-key certificate-based SSL |
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| 08:34.16 | GraveDigger | okay, still it works fine :) |
| 08:34.17 | fde | Debian and all derivs recently had a bug in the issue, so people are going nuts... apparently picking the most free software isn't always a good idea. |
| 08:35.34 | thiago | kwallet doesn't use public keys |
| 08:35.43 | thiago | it's a symmetric encryption |
| 08:36.41 | fde | thiago: One less thing to worry about then :) |
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| 08:40.07 | andriu | hi all |
| 08:40.33 | andriu | i'm a user of ubuntu, with gnome as desktop environment |
| 08:40.53 | andriu | i've been installed kde-core in order to test it |
| 08:40.58 | andriu | and I have a problem |
| 08:41.15 | andriu | when I work with open office, I can't see icons |
| 08:41.29 | andriu | that is, icons in menus |
| 08:42.03 | andriu | moreover, when I find problem drawing in openoffice |
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| 08:42.17 | andriu | i think i have to install some module |
| 08:42.21 | andriu | can u help me? |
| 08:44.14 | thiago | no |
| 08:44.16 | thiago | try #ubuntu |
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| 08:47.50 | andriu | then, is kde-core is the unique module needed for kde? |
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| 08:52.58 | xdanx77 | ups .meant qt-dbus |
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| 09:00.57 | xdanx77 | hmm.ok.i see ..as kde uses it as an IPC mechanismen it would be impossible.. |
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| 09:10.14 | snooops | Hi guys |
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| 09:12.27 | snooops | i think i found a bug on kde 4.0.3 for fedora 9. if im enabling desktop effects kde 4.0.3 is restarting the xwindow after each logon |
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| 09:22.15 | ethana2 | Anybody here have their scroll bar arrow buttons turned off? |
| 09:22.29 | ethana2 | I want to move to KDE, but my gnome is very heavily customized |
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| 10:11.05 | frojnd | what is wrong with kopete.. I've disabled ALL notifications and I still get popouts for a user that chage a status... |
| 10:11.08 | frojnd | KDE 4.. |
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| 10:29.34 | hayig2000 | is it fine to have both kde 3.5 and 4 installed? |
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| 10:33.33 | lemma | hayig2000: yes. it works |
| 10:33.36 | Jucato | hayig2000: yes |
| 10:34.03 | Jucato | (of course, depending on how your distro sets that up, and whether you choose to bypass distro limitations) |
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| 10:35.35 | Dumble | hello world ! |
| 10:35.45 | hayig2000 | i want to report an error that has disappeared by uninstalling kde3.5 (while kde 4 is installed), that error is |
| 10:35.45 | Dumble | I am trying to make a simple IMAP client based on KIOSlave. I succeded to retrieved the emails list, but I didn't find how I can get emails content. |
| 10:36.01 | Dumble | this is a part of my code : http://rafb.net/p/QGJqN061.html |
| 10:36.25 | Dumble | I do not know what to do to get emails content and attachments |
| 10:36.29 | hayig2000 | when i log into the system for the first time, the keyboard doesnot function properly |
| 10:37.09 | hayig2000 | while relogin solve the problem |
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| 10:37.40 | lemma | Dumble: please do not cross-post. #kde-devel is the right place to ask. if noone can answer there it's because noone is there who knows |
| 10:37.57 | lemma | Dumble: with a problem as specific as this, please rather use that mailinglist |
| 10:38.17 | hayig2000 | anyway this problem dispeared by uninstalling 3.5 while keeping 4 |
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| 10:38.22 | Dumble | I agree, but I though I had more chance to find someone to answer here |
| 10:38.49 | Dumble | which mailing list would you suggest me ? |
| 10:39.11 | Dumble | kde-devel ? |
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| 10:39.34 | Dumble | or kde-pim ? |
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| 10:42.41 | JdGordon|uni | I've got kdm going so I can autologin to X (I dont actually have a WM going though), which file can I put startup scripts in? its not running ~/.xinitrc ? |
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| 10:50.43 | lemma | Dumble: kde-devel rather |
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| 10:51.02 | Dumble | ok |
| 10:51.06 | Dumble | thank you |
| 10:51.40 | ciacon__ | Hi folks. what's the name of the prog, that is run on the first (and seemingly only the first) start of kde? |
| 10:52.37 | pinotree | kpersonalizer |
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| 10:54.46 | ciacon__ | pinotree: thanks |
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| 11:29.51 | erikwt | in kde4, how can i change the color of a item in the taskbar when it needs attention? like when someone talks to you on IRC? now it gets just a little lighter so it's hard to see |
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| 11:49.19 | dbglt | hello everyone :) |
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| 12:14.49 | aforbes | how can I find the pid of a running instance of konsole? |
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| 12:16.23 | Dumble | maybe with : "ps aux | grep konsole" |
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| 12:17.46 | bimble | Dumble: this is solaris, so it's ps -ef, but no i'm not seeing anything when i grep for konsole |
| 12:19.29 | Dumble | so maybe "pidof konsole" ? |
| 12:19.45 | Dumble | I've never used Solaris before |
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| 12:22.25 | bimble | thanks for the help |
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| 12:27.34 | thm | in Fedora9, following a URL causes Quanta+ to be opened instead of Konqueror. How do I change that? |
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| 12:36.20 | cb400f | thm: what's the file extension on the url? .html? .php? |
| 12:37.43 | thm | hmm, neither nor, e.g. klicking on the topic line in konversation on www.kde.org |
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| 12:39.11 | thm | somehow I miss the controlcenter |
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| 12:40.39 | thm | e.g. sweeper is not part of the new system settings |
| 12:40.48 | jazka | thm: system settings -> default applications -> web browser? |
| 12:41.53 | thm | jazka: already set that to "in the following browser" and entered konqueror |
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| 12:41.59 | thm | jazka: with no success |
| 12:42.40 | thm | might be problem of the mixture of kde3 and kde4 apps? |
| 12:43.32 | Jucato | konvi will follow kde3 settings, not kde4 settings. as a last resort, you can set Konvi to use konqueror explicitly |
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| 12:44.13 | thm | so, I guess I can't set kde3 settings anymore? |
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| 12:45.32 | Jucato | hm... try running "kcmshell componentchooser" |
| 12:46.19 | Jucato | if that still fails, you might have to ask in #fedora or #fedora-kde since their KDE 4 setup is "special" in a way |
| 12:46.59 | thm | ah, the kcmshell command works |
| 12:47.05 | thm | thx! |
| 12:47.08 | pinotree | <thm> e.g. sweeper is not part of the new system settings â it's a separate application, located in the kdeutils module |
| 12:47.57 | Jucato | I guess he was referring to the privacy kcm.... though that's not really system settings' "fault"... the module itself doesn't exist |
| 12:48.32 | Jucato | oh right.. sweeper now :) |
| 12:48.38 | Jucato | pinotree: thanks :) |
| 12:48.47 | thm | it used to be part of the kcm.. |
| 12:48.58 | pinotree | but not anymore |
| 12:49.07 | pinotree | it's a bit illogic for that being a kcm |
| 12:49.19 | thm | fair enough |
| 12:49.30 | pinotree | a kcm serves as configuration, but sweeper doesn't configure anything... |
| 12:49.39 | thm | sort of de-configures |
| 12:49.40 | Jucato | be thankful it still exists :) |
| 12:50.16 | thm | can I also change the look of the kde3 apps using kcmshell something? |
| 12:50.17 | Jucato | thm: actually it's really just a convenience utility to clear privacy data, some of which can be done manually in other control modules (for example, the cache and history data) |
| 12:50.31 | thm | Jucato: I know. |
| 12:50.47 | Jucato | thm: depends on how fedora set it up. |
| 12:51.04 | Jucato | "kcmshell style icons kwindecoration fonts" |
| 12:51.15 | thm | Jucato: but e mailer is also just a convenience tool to write emails, one can do that also via telnet smtp |
| 12:52.00 | Jucato | now you're comparing kmail and sweeper? nice |
| 12:52.04 | thm | Jucato: kcmshell --list doesn't work, otherwise I'd have tried myself, so thx for the list |
| 12:52.10 | thm | Jucato: no, just kidding |
| 12:52.40 | thm | Jucato: wasn't meant offensive |
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| 12:53.44 | Jucato | just a bit sarcastic, to say the least :) |
| 12:54.12 | thm | any idea why kcmshell --list doesn't work? |
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| 12:55.19 | Jucato | F9's setup is unique. it uses KDE 4 by default, but has the minimal requirements to be able to run KDE 3 apps.it doesn't install complete KDE 3 stuff afaik. |
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| 12:57.39 | thm | ok. think'll have to live with that for now |
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| 13:05.15 | mi | suse have extra repo for KDE 4 ? |
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| 13:06.10 | pinotree | mi: #opensuse-kde please |
| 13:06.10 | Jucato | mi: you'll have to ask in #suse (or #opensuse) |
| 13:06.16 | Jucato | or that :) |
| 13:06.45 | mi | Jucato: i use ubuntu ...this is for my friend |
| 13:06.47 | cb400f | mi: there are repos with 4.0 and 4.1/trunk respectively |
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| 13:07.10 | cb400f | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/KDE4:/ |
| 13:07.32 | cb400f | .. for 10.3 |
| 13:07.44 | cb400f | 11.0 ships with 4.0.4 in 34 days |
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| 13:08.20 | tech9iner | waves moin moin to cb400f n Jucato n....... aw hell.. pinotree even.. |
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| 13:09.08 | cb400f | 'lo tech9iner |
| 13:09.15 | tech9iner | aye i eye.. |
| 13:09.56 | mi | cb400f: tnx |
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| 13:10.03 | Jucato | hai |
| 13:10.06 | Jucato | er. hi |
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| 13:20.43 | Dumble | erf, ok, I found what was wrong : URL returned by KIO::list |
| 13:21.13 | Dumble | erf, ok, I found what was wrong : URL returned by KIO::listJob must be splitted to extract the number which begin the "file name" |
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| 13:21.33 | Dumble | and a new URL must be generated from this number |
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| 13:23.57 | romulo | hi there, how can i move and delete plasmoids from the kde4 panel? |
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| 13:25.41 | Dumble | romulo, right click on them ? |
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| 13:26.27 | InitMass | how do i get the toolbar back in digikam? i guess it's the same in all qt apps |
| 13:26.29 | InitMass | ? |
| 13:26.32 | romulo | i cant, the moon thing for example, i inserted it and it showed "this object could not be created for the following reason: OpenGL Transparency not supported or something like that" |
| 13:26.36 | romulo | and now i cant remove it |
| 13:26.48 | romulo | nor move the others in the panel, who are distributed very very wrong |
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| 13:29.27 | romulo | ah nice, you can remove it from add plasmoids to desktop :D |
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| 13:32.42 | Marquel | morning |
| 13:33.01 | Dumble | afternoon Marquel ;) |
| 13:33.22 | Marquel | whatever. |
| 13:33.29 | Nyle | the kde deault 4 theme is black |
| 13:33.41 | Nyle | imo its ugly :( |
| 13:33.56 | Nyle | nice light soothing colors would be nie on default kde4 install |
| 13:34.03 | Nyle | this hackerish black nastiness is giving me eyesores |
| 13:34.21 | Jucato | you seem to be mistaking the Plasma theme for the KDE 4 theme. Oxygen is not black |
| 13:34.24 | Nyle | (i change since changed it) |
| 13:34.28 | Nyle | not oxygen |
| 13:34.31 | Nyle | oxygen is beautiful |
| 13:34.48 | Jucato | <Nyle> the kde deault 4 theme is black <--- Oxygen is the KDE 4 default theme |
| 13:34.57 | Nyle | Jucato, ok |
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| 13:35.09 | Marquel | i have two little questions 'bout dcop and korganizer - if i'm right with them here... |
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| 13:35.20 | Nyle | im a dumb new user, to me the startup logo and the panel etc. blcak to me its black |
| 13:35.22 | Nyle | whatever |
| 13:35.40 | Nyle | so its plasma and kde4 startup logo |
| 13:35.57 | Nyle | not kde style or window theme |
| 13:36.13 | Jucato | afaik in 4.1 the login theme and splash screen will have the default blue wallpaper as the background |
| 13:36.24 | Nyle | niced |
| 13:36.35 | Nyle | that would indeed give it a professional look |
| 13:36.52 | Jucato | (actually Kubuntu already does that.. not sure about other distros) |
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| 13:37.15 | Nyle | Jucato, I install wubi/kubuntu kde4 |
| 13:37.33 | Nyle | 8.04 and i went back to debian |
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| 13:37.41 | Nyle | yet one again |
| 13:37.47 | Nyle | once* |
| 13:39.19 | Nyle | anyway, nicely done on kde, I used it recently and its nice |
| 13:39.30 | Nyle | I like the start menu panel, it is very intuitive |
| 13:39.50 | Nyle | kmenu sorry |
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| 13:40.32 | Marquel | question 1: how do i fire up an application i want to talk to via DCOP if it's not already running (like i want to talk to korganizer, but korganizer is not yet loaded)? |
| 13:41.05 | Marquel | and no. 2: how do i figure out the uid of a given event in korganizer needed to modify or delete it? |
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| 13:48.42 | trops | does anyone use the KDEtwitter plasmoid? |
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| 13:53.28 | Twey | Hi, my KDE4 seems to be having some issues connecting to dbus: http://rafb.net/p/65Q08j35.html |
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| 13:59.05 | unull | Is it normal that enabled font subpixel-hinting slows down konsole scroll speed horribly and increases the cpu usage a lot? |
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| 13:59.35 | flyser | unull: are you using the nvidia-driver? |
| 13:59.49 | flyser | (the binary one) |
| 13:59.50 | unull | I'm talking of KDE 3.5.9, and subpixel-hinting makes it almost unusable for me when compiling. |
| 13:59.53 | unull | flyser: yes. |
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| 14:00.10 | flyser | unull: and a 7xxx, 8xxx or 9xxx card? |
| 14:00.14 | unull | flyser: yes |
| 14:00.50 | flyser | yeah the nvidia driver does not cache the antialiased symbols (like other drivers do) |
| 14:01.09 | unull | flyser: Is there a way to enable that? |
| 14:01.10 | flyser | the next version will include this caching |
| 14:01.18 | unull | Ok, many thanks. |
| 14:01.30 | unull | For now, I just disabled it. |
| 14:01.31 | flyser | if you are using the beta-driver, yes. |
| 14:01.51 | unull | flyser: I am. 173.08 |
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| 14:02.30 | flyser | yeah then you can enable it |
| 14:02.33 | flyser | just a second |
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| 14:03.23 | flyser | like this: nvidia-settings -a InitialPixmapPlacement=2 -a GlyphCache=1 |
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| 14:04.28 | flyser | the "-a InitialPixmapPlacement=2" isnt really needed, but should provide a speedup too |
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| 14:04.41 | unull | flyser: Do I have to retype it for each new X session? |
| 14:04.52 | unull | Since I can't see any xorg.conf modifications |
| 14:05.17 | flyser | you can write a xinit or kde autostart script |
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| 14:07.22 | unull | flyser: Thanks a lot. |
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| 14:08.42 | unull | Works like a charm. |
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| 14:10.59 | flyser | I just compiled kde 4.1 fromtrunk and it very slow and unresponsive (tearing everywhere and low fps) on a pretty decent computer. Anything I can do about this? |
| 14:11.37 | unull | Do you use the compositing stuff? |
| 14:11.54 | flyser | no |
| 14:13.03 | Jucato | did you build it with debugfull (using the default instructions from techbase) |
| 14:13.22 | flyser | Jucato: ohhhh of course ... |
| 14:13.25 | flyser | how can I forget |
| 14:14.25 | flyser | is it enough to remove "-DCMAKE_BUILD_TYPE=debugfull" ? |
| 14:14.36 | flyser | or something else? |
| 14:15.39 | Jucato | (you can use "release" I think) |
| 14:15.48 | flyser | oaky thanks |
| 14:15.50 | Jucato | not sure what is used by default if not set |
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| 14:20.57 | leleobhz | hello everybody |
| 14:21.07 | leleobhz | i have a problem here about key repetion |
| 14:21.46 | leleobhz | since kde 3.5.8 from kubuntu gutsy, randomly the key repetion feature disables |
| 14:22.00 | leleobhz | and i need to go to keyboard configuration and active it again |
| 14:22.22 | leleobhz | someone know what can do it and how to fix? |
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| 14:33.13 | pablo | hi, which are the official kde languages |
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| 14:34.34 | flyser | pablo: you mean the translations or the talks on the mls ? |
| 14:35.04 | pablo | flyser: nono, sorry i meant the officila prog languages |
| 14:35.06 | Jucato | C++, the Official KDE Language :) |
| 14:35.28 | pablo | Jucato: any other? |
| 14:35.33 | Jucato | well since KDE uses Qt and Qt is primarily a C++ toolkit, C++ is the primary language. all the rest are bindings |
| 14:35.48 | annma | pablo: python, ruby, js |
| 14:36.14 | pablo | Jucato: yes, from the binddings are there any official ones, i mean official kde apps written in them? |
| 14:36.16 | Jucato | I think there's also C# (not sure about the status) |
| 14:36.28 | Jucato | annma: oooh that topic again!! :) |
| 14:36.32 | annma | pablo: there's a ruby applet |
| 14:36.37 | annma | there are python apps |
| 14:36.42 | annma | hey Jucato :) |
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| 14:37.02 | annma | there's a js applet as well |
| 14:37.15 | Jucato | pablo: there are no "official" kde apps written in those bindings, if by "official" you mean those release with KDE (the main modules)... |
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| 14:37.24 | Jucato | probably except for JS.. not sure on that one :P |
| 14:37.27 | kc8hfi | anyone know of konqueror in kde4 has the gecko rendering engine? |
| 14:37.35 | Jucato | no |
| 14:37.39 | annma | kc8hfi: nope, it has khtml |
| 14:37.40 | rdale | we have a python printing app in kdebase |
| 14:37.49 | leleobhz | someone know this issue about key repeating? |
| 14:37.49 | flyser | kc8hfi: konqui uses khtml an maybe webkit in some time |
| 14:37.55 | annma | and a python kcm in kdereview |
| 14:37.59 | kc8hfi | annma: I see. |
| 14:38.05 | kc8hfi | flyser: Ok |
| 14:38.06 | Jucato | pablo: Kubuntu makes a lot of python-based KDE utilities |
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| 14:38.17 | bipolar | Isn't it moving completely to webkit in 4.1? |
| 14:38.22 | Jucato | no |
| 14:38.23 | annma | nope bipolar |
| 14:38.29 | flyser | bipolar: no! |
| 14:38.31 | annma | nobody worked on that |
| 14:38.37 | bipolar | ah, my misunderstanding |
| 14:38.42 | Jucato | and no decision has been made |
| 14:39.02 | kc8hfi | I hate the gtk file dialog, and I like firefox. I understand that kde was going to integrate gecko in there also. |
| 14:39.04 | Jucato | and given that we would probably want to have binary compatibility throughout KDE 4... |
| 14:39.11 | Jucato | huh? |
| 14:39.16 | Jucato | it has nothing to do with Gecko at all |
| 14:39.48 | isaac | kc8hfi: I used to use Konqueror, but now I have grown firefox-dependent and I hate the gtk file dialog too :( |
| 14:39.51 | Jucato | kc8hfi: Google for "Firefox KDE integration" and you'll see guides on how to solve your problem |
| 14:39.55 | flyser | most likely webkit will be optional in the future |
| 14:40.08 | kc8hfi | Jucato: yeah, I've tried a bunch of those things. |
| 14:40.18 | kc8hfi | Jucato: Some work, some do not. |
| 14:40.26 | Jucato | then use the ones that work :) |
| 14:40.54 | kc8hfi | Jucato: those don't work some of the time, but its all good for now. |
| 14:41.14 | Alethes | I have my firefox looking just like a kde app |
| 14:41.27 | Alethes | but I use qtcurve for my style on both ends, so it's pretty easy |
| 14:41.52 | Jucato | Alethes: that doesn't solve the GTK+ file dialog though |
| 14:41.55 | flyser | is there a ff theme for oxygen? |
| 14:41.56 | Alethes | kgtk |
| 14:42.06 | Alethes | http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=36077 |
| 14:42.30 | Jucato | Alethes: that's in one of the guides I mentioned |
| 14:42.34 | Alethes | ah ok |
| 14:42.36 | Alethes | heh heh |
| 14:42.49 | kc8hfi | Alethes: yeah, I've used that one. the problem I ran into was after I chose a file, it wouldn't actually open the file. |
| 14:42.55 | Alethes | really? |
| 14:43.11 | Alethes | it works for me with anything other than gimp, but I guess that's 'cause they use a lot of custom stuff |
| 14:43.14 | kc8hfi | Alethes: the dialog box was good, i picked a file just fine, when i clicked ok, nothing happened. |
| 14:43.21 | Alethes | strange |
| 14:43.42 | Alethes | we just need to convince the gnome guys to give up and start working on kde :D |
| 14:43.44 | kc8hfi | Its ok for now though. |
| 14:43.56 | Alethes | kde can do everything gnome can do, but not the other way around |
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| 14:44.07 | Alethes | my kde looks a lot like gnome, for example |
| 14:44.13 | Jucato | to be fair, it's not really Gnome's area |
| 14:44.13 | kc8hfi | I kinda wish gtk would just fix their file dialog. I think I can live with the rest. |
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| 14:44.27 | Alethes | Jucato: true, I guess it's just the gtk guys |
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| 14:44.46 | Jucato | (or the firefox guys...) |
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| 14:45.12 | Alethes | I had a pretty heated debate with the gnome devs on irc.gnome.org regarding usuability several years ago |
| 14:45.41 | Alethes | when I realized how stubborn they were, I switched to kde |
| 14:45.44 | kc8hfi | Jucato: its hard to tell. |
| 14:47.23 | Jucato | kc8hfi: it's the Firefox guys who chose to integrate with/use GTK+ on Linux. so it's either they find a way to make that configurable (which you can using those hacks... in a way) or GTK+ devs improve their file dialog.. but anyway... |
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| 14:48.58 | flyser | I would prefer using konqui, but its not as good as firefox |
| 14:49.12 | flyser | (in some points) |
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| 14:50.20 | kc8hfi | Yeah, I like firefox pretty good. |
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| 14:53.03 | Ayabara | is there a text file where I can update file assosiations? |
| 14:53.31 | Ayabara | hmm. was the last word spelled right? |
| 14:54.32 | annma | associations |
| 14:54.41 | Ayabara | annma, that's it :-) |
| 14:54.58 | pinotree | there's not a single text file |
| 14:55.02 | kc8hfi | konqueror has mouse gestures, is there a way to make it use the right mouse button instead of the left? |
| 14:55.23 | Ayabara | pinotree, ok. I want to update the default media player for all video formats. |
| 14:55.27 | kc8hfi | never mind, that was a stupid question |
| 14:55.54 | pinotree | Ayabara: kde control center â kde components â file associations â have fun... |
| 14:56.47 | Ayabara | pinotree, thanks! beats having to right click every file type in krusader :-) |
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| 15:49.45 | berzerka | is there a way to re-generate the network share and device links on the kde desktop? i accidentally renamed one of the network share shortcuts, and want to have the old name back.. |
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| 15:57.02 | berzerka | why does kde create those links automatically anyway... well i will find out one day :) have a nice one. |
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| 16:37.19 | _guilherme| | anyone knows a way to launch konqueror without kdeinit, or make it act like a normal blocking process when called? |
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| 16:52.56 | Steve-cal | If I do a "kcmshell --list", I get some modules that don't seem to show up in my "kcontrol", e.g. "mountconfig" to control which partitions get mounted. Is there some way I can add all available modules to show up in my kcontrol? (KDE 3.5) |
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| 16:56.33 | mwoehlke | any guesses what's causing this error? krita(16052)/kdecore (K*TimeZone*): KSystemTimeZones: ktimezoned initialize() D-Bus call failed: "Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken." |
| 16:56.53 | mwoehlke | ...daemon failing to start, maybe? |
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| 16:58.57 | thiago_home | do you see a 25-delay? |
| 16:59.17 | mwoehlke | thiago: 25-second delay before I get that message? |
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| 16:59.53 | mwoehlke | I am complaining about it because it seems to be making krita take a long time to start, yes :-) |
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| 17:00.06 | mwoehlke | thiago_home: ^ |
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| 17:03.08 | Sput | hmm, I can't seem to svn up from anonsvn with my computer at home... while in office, it works flawlessly |
| 17:03.26 | Sput | does anonsvn have mirrors which select depending on location? |
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| 17:07.41 | mwoehlke | Sput: AFAIK, yes |
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| 17:08.07 | Sput | mwoehlke: so, uhm, any chance that the malfunctioning mirror gets a nice kick in its behind? :) |
| 17:08.08 | mwoehlke | Sput: try 131.174.31.25 |
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| 17:08.45 | mwoehlke | Sput: probably not, best bet is usually to force a different mirror (either change your URL to use an IP, or fiddle with /etc/hosts) |
| 17:09.09 | Sput | thanks... is there a public list somewhere? |
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| 17:09.49 | Sput | that IP works fine in any case :) |
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| 17:26.23 | mwoehlke | Sput: I've no idea, that's just the one I get :-) |
| 17:26.34 | Sput | ok, thanks, you helped me a lot :) |
| 17:26.45 | mwoehlke | Sput: no problem :-) |
| 17:26.50 | Sput | been trying to install kde from svn on that machine all day and couldn't even fetch it :) |
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| 17:26.58 | mwoehlke | :-) |
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| 17:27.46 | tuxick | Sput: i didn't know kde was on sourceforge! |
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| 17:39.46 | lilltiger | What can cause an application to totaly freez when spawning an kio_file request? |
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| 17:45.49 | mwoehlke | tuxick: huh?? |
| 17:46.50 | tuxick | well they're known for "couldn't fetch all day" |
| 17:47.11 | tuxick | but i admit, bad joke |
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| 17:48.59 | zcat | what's the plasma equivalent for doing the old "dcop kicker kicker restart" to refresh the panels? |
| 17:49.43 | mwoehlke | tuxick: ah |
| 17:50.21 | mwoehlke | zcat: um... dunno, might be a dbus equivalent, or just 'kquitapp plasma ; plasma & disown' |
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| 17:54.25 | svoboda | I have a konqueror4.0.4 related question. The flash plugin does not work, but it works in konqueror3 and firefox. The video is loaded (e.g. youtube), but never starts to play. Any advice? |
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| 17:59.52 | svoboda | This is the error message I get KConfigGroup::readXdgListEntry: List entry mime in "/usr/share/kde4/apps/kjava/pluginsinfo" is not compliant with XDG standard (missing trailing semicolon). |
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| 18:00.19 | svoboda | Of course I have no clue, if this is actually related to the problem |
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| 18:01.00 | bourgois | Just installed Fedora 9. Please Please tell me that there is a way to customize the taskbar... |
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| 18:02.17 | MinceR | right-click? :> |
| 18:04.17 | bourgois | I wished right-click would help. I can't seem to find a way to add a run command or a quick launch. No option to change color and resizing doesn't work well. All the useful features in KDE 3 are missing. |
| 18:05.38 | svoboda | hey bourgois |
| 18:05.48 | svoboda | I have kde 4.0.4 under openSUSE |
| 18:05.52 | bourgois | listening |
| 18:05.59 | svoboda | i can right click it and change the size |
| 18:06.10 | svoboda | and the location |
| 18:06.23 | svoboda | you can also add icons, if you unlock your plasma desktop |
| 18:06.38 | svoboda | just drag and drop new icons onto it from the plasma menue |
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| 18:07.22 | bourgois | Ok. I will give that a try. Thanks |
| 18:07.23 | lilltiger | Ok got serius issues here, when i start any kde-program that tries to access the disk it stalls, then if I kill all kio_files it will take like 5mins then the application actually starts and gets an kio_file that is working.. what can be wrong? |
| 18:07.48 | svoboda | or you can also drag icons from the kickoff menue |
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| 18:07.57 | bourgois | When I change the size of the taskbar the menu icon stays the same size and gets cut off. |
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| 18:08.24 | svoboda | hmm this is not the case in opensuse |
| 18:08.38 | bourgois | Must be a fedora issue then |
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| 18:09.16 | svoboda | what icon theme do you use? |
| 18:09.44 | svoboda | I don't kow if the olde kde Icon theme rescales. I use the Oxygen icon theme which is provided with kde4 |
| 18:09.59 | squid0 | hi. I set a sound to play as a notification for dialogues, but got irritated with it and disabled the sound. however, the sound still plays! :( what's going wrong? |
| 18:10.04 | bourgois | I will give that theme a try |
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| 18:20.02 | graft | how come this new oxygen cursor theme only works on some parts of my desktop? |
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| 18:20.36 | graft | specifically it doesn't seem to be used over plasma portions of the desktop |
| 18:20.42 | _ZeuZ_ | HOw can I get rid of the Log Out effect (a tide that turns the screen to a grey color leaving colored only the log out prompt, ???? |
| 18:20.44 | secleinteer | hi, does anyone know which kde program would be the best for viewing .dvi (tex) files? |
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| 18:20.56 | _ZeuZ_ | (on kde 3.5.9) |
| 18:21.33 | secleinteer | (on kde 3.5.9) |
| 18:21.34 | secleinteer | ;p |
| 18:22.21 | graft | secleinteer: kdvi |
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| 18:22.43 | secleinteer | graft: thanks |
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| 18:25.15 | _ZeuZ_ | HOw can I get rid of the Log Out effect (a tide that turns the screen to a grey color leaving colored only the log out prompt) on 3.5.9, ???? |
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| 18:26.06 | graft | _ZeuZ_: you can't necessarily do it yet |
| 18:26.35 | _ZeuZ_ | well, it would be awesome if you could explain what you meant xD |
| 18:26.48 | graft | _ZeuZ_: but i think if you goto desktop effects/all effects and find the logout option |
| 18:26.54 | graft | _ZeuZ_: if you disable that it might stop it |
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| 18:27.41 | _ZeuZ_ | Gotcha, |
| 18:27.46 | _ZeuZ_ | that's under kcontrol, right? |
| 18:27.55 | graft | oh wait, in 3.5.9 |
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| 18:28.07 | graft | um, i have no idea for 3.5.9 |
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| 19:02.12 | klebezettel | hmm, navigating in the sidepane of konqueror with cursor keys is so slow...it seems there is an delay... |
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| 19:02.52 | USMarine | it's a feature for older people |
| 19:03.19 | MinceR | in south korea only old people use the sidepane with cursor keys? :> |
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| 19:13.00 | frojnd | hello guys |
| 19:13.16 | frojnd | Would anyone know where can I disable sound for minimize, maximize ? |
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| 19:14.04 | kdepepo | systemsettings->desktop->notifications->kwin (in combobox) |
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| 19:15.50 | kdepepo | s/desktop/general |
| 19:16.23 | frojnd | kdepepo: can I access system settings other than alt + f2 ? |
| 19:16.45 | kdepepo | frojnd, kickoff menu? |
| 19:17.13 | frojnd | kdepepo: standard menu.. |
| 19:17.16 | frojnd | not suse |
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| 19:17.31 | kdepepo | frojnd, kickoff _is_ kde4's standard menu... |
| 19:17.51 | frojnd | kdepepo: than I have kickoff |
| 19:18.21 | kdepepo | frojnd, it should even be under the favorites, unless your distribution fscked it up :) |
| 19:18.48 | frojnd | than it's fscffed up :) |
| 19:19.17 | kdepepo | what icons are there in favorites (first kicker tab) |
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| 19:19.28 | wstephenson | frojnd: "personal settings"? |
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| 19:19.36 | kdepepo | try it |
| 19:19.46 | frojnd | personal settigns ? |
| 19:20.01 | frojnd | first icon is suse's animal |
| 19:20.29 | kdepepo | "animal" :) |
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| 19:21.55 | frojnd | under desktop I can't find any notifications |
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| 19:22.35 | kdepepo | then browse a bit... so you will learn what is where. |
| 19:22.46 | kdepepo | I am off to dinner... cya |
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| 19:23.32 | frojnd | salute |
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| 19:24.42 | frojnd | I found it but then there was crash |
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| 19:24.55 | frojnd | where can I report any bugs for crashes if I get any log ? |
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| 19:25.46 | tuxick | bugs.kde.org |
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| 19:27.03 | frojnd | Konqueror crashes every time I wannt to lunch (click) on a video, picture to preview with default player.. |
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| 19:31.02 | DanielW | hi |
| 19:31.21 | DanielW | kded4 still crashes every few hours :-( |
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| 19:33.35 | fde | DanielW: KDE 4.0.x is more a technology preview, you should file any bugs not filed, and help make 4.1.x as good as it can be. |
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| 19:34.45 | Lucifer | anybody know what it would take to pull the oxygen theme from kde to use in my own qt app? |
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| 19:34.58 | Lucifer | I like it so much, I want to use it always.... ;) |
| 19:36.17 | DanielW | fde: i know. that is why i am using kde 4 from trunk and work on gsoc für kde (ok amarok, but it somehow part of the kde project). but that kded4 crashing but well it annoys me and an just wanted to know if i am the only one with that problem (to know if it is a problem on my side) |
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| 19:39.30 | frojnd | how do I check what version of KDE do I have ? |
| 19:39.56 | pinotree | gui: help â about kde |
| 19:40.06 | pinotree | console: anykdeapp --version |
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| 19:41.02 | frojnd | thanx pinotree |
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| 19:51.36 | Shaman | so looking forward to 4.1 |
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| 20:08.17 | DanielW | i can not find a bug report about plasma eating up x resources (pixmap memory) is there one already? should i submit one? |
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| 20:11.44 | wstephenson | DanielW: have you looked at the plasma bugs? |
| 20:12.06 | DanielW | wstephenson: i tried. but i still don't like bugs.kde.org |
| 20:12.58 | wstephenson | god save you from bugzilla.novell.com then. b.k.o is pretty tame |
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| 20:14.35 | DanielW | i always get Zarro Boogs found. even if i don't enter a search string |
| 20:15.45 | wstephenson | odd |
| 20:15.51 | wstephenson | http://bugs.kde.org/buglist.cgi?short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&product=plasma&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailcc2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&changedin=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&order=Bug+Number&cmd |
| 20:15.51 | wstephenson | type=doit - does that work for you? |
| 20:16.20 | DanielW | yeah |
| 20:16.33 | DanielW | what did you select in the search form? |
| 20:16.41 | wstephenson | just plasma |
| 20:16.44 | wstephenson | no components |
| 20:16.47 | wstephenson | no keywords |
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| 20:17.11 | wstephenson | i can't find any mem leak bug reports, so go ahead and report it. |
| 20:18.22 | DanielW | ok |
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| 20:27.08 | DexterF | where are konqueror's plugins stored? |
| 20:27.37 | jaf1230 | Hi, I'm running KDE 3.5.8. I'm having an issue where at some point when logged in, Konqueror will just start refusing to launch. The konq icon bounces next to the cursor for a few seconds, and then disappears, and konq doesn't launch. If I log out and then back in, that resets it and konq works again. How do I fix this? |
| 20:27.44 | sredna | DexterF: which package, or on your harddisk? |
| 20:28.18 | sredna | jaf1230: try 'killall konqueror' in a command prompt :) |
| 20:28.49 | jaf1230 | heh, that kills konqueror, but it still won't launch |
| 20:29.26 | aleksanteri | what did you expect? it got killed, it's dead. |
| 20:29.26 | aleksanteri | :P |
| 20:29.26 | sredna | jaf1230: try 'konqueror' in a command prompt, and look at the output |
| 20:29.35 | jaf1230 | it's just sitting there |
| 20:30.02 | sredna | jaf1230: make sure no konquerot instances are running |
| 20:30.06 | DexterF | sredna: harddisk |
| 20:30.13 | DexterF | need to copy flash lib manually |
| 20:30.17 | jaf1230 | they're not, I did ps aux | grep konqueror |
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| 20:30.26 | sredna | DexterF: depends on your installation, so ask in #<yourdistro> |
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| 20:31.00 | sredna | DexterF: you might see the location of the flash plugin in konquerors plugin config page |
| 20:31.06 | sredna | irrc |
| 20:31.09 | DexterF | ok |
| 20:31.29 | DanielW | http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=162138 <- there it is :-) |
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| 20:32.03 | fiendishfish | Hi |
| 20:32.25 | fiendishfish | I accidently messed with my .kde folder and rm'd the stuff, and now konqueror is giving errors when loading as a normal user, but works fine as root |
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| 20:34.47 | fiendishfish | I accidently messed with my .kde folder and rm'd the stuff, and now konqueror is giving errors when loading as a normal user, but works fine as root |
| 20:35.07 | quebee | i get on my taskbar when idling xorg icons i had up to four of them today any idea what causes this |
| 20:35.29 | jaf1230 | yeah, no output running konqueror from command line |
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| 20:36.24 | fiendishfish | jaf1230, was that towards me? |
| 20:36.34 | jaf1230 | no |
| 20:36.38 | fiendishfish | Ah. |
| 20:37.17 | quebee | but nothing is running |
| 20:37.19 | sredna | fiendishfish: remove ~/.kde/share/config/onquerorrc |
| 20:37.38 | sredna | fiendishfish: reame it, if it contains any valuable configuration |
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| 20:38.48 | picca | is it possible to get KDE to automount and smb share? |
| 20:38.49 | fiendishfish | Deleted sredna, Konqueror loads, but I can't visit folders, I get errors such as: trying to create local folder /home/fiendishfish/.kde/share/config: Permission denied |
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| 20:40.52 | sredna | fiendishfish: make sure you own the folder, and that you have write permissions :)Hvad blev der egentlig af vores skrotprojekt? |
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| 20:42.33 | Steve-cal | When I make changes to my Kmenu, which file does it save its changes to? (KDE 3.5) |
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| 20:45.46 | fiendishfish | sredna, now I get the "cannot talk to klauncher" error |
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| 20:46.15 | sredna | fiendishfish: doing what? |
| 20:47.21 | fiendishfish | sredna, thanks, fixed now. |
| 20:47.26 | fiendishfish | Just shutdown dcopserver and then ran kdeinit |
| 20:47.55 | jaf1230 | I just killed kded and now konq launches |
| 20:48.59 | JamesB192 | I have kde-4.0.3 running on my gentoo box, could someone tell me how to restart the taskbar? |
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| 20:51.18 | jaf1230 | thanks |
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| 20:55.04 | trops | JamesB192: kquitapp plasma && plasma |
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| 20:55.21 | Steve-cal | When I make changes to the K menu via the menu editor, where does it save its changes? Which file holds the menu/program structure of the K menu? |
| 20:55.46 | kdepepo | Steve-cal, it is somewhere in .local or .config |
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| 20:56.38 | kdepepo | Steve-cal, ~/.local/share/applications |
| 20:57.53 | JamesB192 | trops: Thanks. |
| 20:58.01 | Steve-cal | kdepepo: I'm not looking for individual program entries like in the folder you suggest, I think what I want is ~/.config/menus/applications-kmenuedit.menu. But it's confusing because that file does not seem to be up-to-date; it has previous changes I made to the K menu. |
| 20:59.05 | kdepepo | Steve-cal, maybe kicker hasn't saved yet... |
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| 21:04.49 | Lucifer | is there a qt stylesheet for oxygen? |
| 21:05.02 | Lucifer | if so, where is it? ;) |
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| 21:14.21 | jadrian_ | konqueror in 3.5.9 doesn't seem to work at all with digg.com |
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| 21:14.52 | jadrian_ | the comment system just changed and now comments are not even displayed |
| 21:15.01 | jadrian_ | does anybody know any workaround |
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| 21:17.14 | Firefishe | I'm using kde 3.5.6 on kubuntu feisty. I'm having problem with a sony clie PEG-TJ37 PalmOS handheld syncing regularly with kpilot. |
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| 21:34.50 | R_Rios | Could anyone here give a help? |
| 21:35.44 | pinotree | don't ask to ask, just ask |
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| 21:36.54 | R_Rios | OK, :P |
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| 21:37.06 | R_Rios | I use Arch Linux |
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| 21:37.37 | R_Rios | And KDE is without sound |
| 21:38.01 | R_Rios | Any application has sound, but KDE |
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| 21:39.48 | ejupin | I can't get kde to start with mandriva, only ICE starts, what is the terminal command to correct this? thx. |
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| 21:41.42 | Firefishe | I'm using KDE 3.5.6, Kubuntu Feisty. I can't sync my Sony Clie PEG-TJ37. I get this output from kpilot's log: http://pastebin.org/36245 |
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| 21:45.50 | kdepepo | Did you check that KPilot actually supports your device? |
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| 21:48.21 | lilltiger | What can cause any application that access the fs to take like 10-15mins to start (but when started they work flawless)? |
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| 21:50.48 | wesley | can you still get old versions of kde ? |
| 21:51.26 | DanielW | wesley: what do you mean with old? |
| 21:51.41 | wesley | kde 1 or 2 |
| 21:52.11 | DanielW | http://websvn.kde.org/tags/KDE/1.1/ |
| 21:52.13 | DanielW | for example |
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| 21:53.12 | wesley | i bet there no debs |
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| 21:56.24 | jayjay | anyone want a beta copy of KDE 5? I got it. |
| 21:56.35 | wesley | lol kde 5 ? |
| 21:56.38 | R_Rios | O RLY? |
| 21:56.42 | jayjay | ya rly |
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| 21:57.06 | jayjay | It uses ray tracing for rendering, like DirectX 11 |
| 21:57.24 | R_Rios | Wow! |
| 21:57.24 | rohanpm | fileshare.com/jd44eabdd/kde5_beta.exe ? |
| 21:57.28 | R_Rios | Amazing! |
| 21:57.57 | jayjay | rohanpm: oh that's the old beta |
| 21:58.15 | rohanpm | Oh |
| 21:58.27 | rohanpm | I hope they fixed all those popups and my cd drive constantly opening and closing |
| 21:58.46 | jayjay | no that one is still in there, sorry |
| 21:59.55 | jayjay | but if you load himem.sys first before the cd driver, that might work |
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| 22:05.29 | DanielW | yeah kded4 crashed again. this time i have the output from the crash :-) |
| 22:05.45 | wesley | i founded a bug to |
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| 22:18.01 | sjuxax | Hi all. I love Kuickshow a lot and have compiled the KDE4 version from SVN. However, it no longer seems to actually display images beyond the preview pane. I really liked the way Kuickshow did it, and I've been sad as I've noticed it becoming increasingly neglected. Are there plans to continue working on Kuickshow for KDE4, and to make the image viewers work? Is there just something wrong with my compile? |
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| 22:21.11 | tntcoda | Hi, if i want to make an c++ app for kde whats the best design approach with QT? I assume i want to seperate all my logic from the GUI, so should i make a command line app to begin with then sort of wrap QT4 around it? or should i start with QT from the start |
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| 22:23.25 | pinotree | tntcoda: #qt |
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| 22:23.38 | tntcoda | ok thanks |
| 22:23.39 | pinotree | sjuxax: kuickshow is unmaintained |
| 22:23.58 | pinotree | even the kde3 version |
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| 22:24.22 | sjuxax | pinotree, that is sad. Has it been superceded by gwenview or some such? |
| 22:24.27 | pinotree | yes |
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| 22:27.04 | aaroncampbell | Does anyone know of a screen capture app like ksnapshot that does not remove the cursor from the shot? I'm showing some drag and drop functionality, and it looks funky with no mouse doing the dragging |
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| 22:27.37 | sjuxax | :\. kuickshow is better than gwenview. Guess I'll compile gwenview and see. Is Kuickshow dead because nobody likes imlib? |
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| 22:28.35 | pinotree | sjuxax: <pinotree> sjuxax: kuickshow is unmaintained |
| 22:29.33 | agnitio | aaroncampbell: gimp it on afterwards? :) |
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| 22:31.05 | aaroncampbell | agnitio: Then I have to design the cursor? |
| 22:31.25 | agnitio | you should have the cursor as an image somewhere |
| 22:31.29 | sjuxax | pinotree, right, I saw that. I was wondering why kuickshow was abandoned. It was just decided gwenview was better, or nobody likes imlib? I'm considering doing some hacking on it to bring it up to snuff if there isn't a good reason, like imlib was decided to be evil, or something. Thanks for all the help. : ) |
| 22:31.35 | agnitio | in /usr/share/icons i believe |
| 22:31.51 | agnitio | find it, open it, copy paste... voila |
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| 22:32.45 | livinded | am I stupid or the option to change the digital clock to a 12 hour format in kde 4 hidden somewhere? |
| 22:32.52 | DanielW | is it a know bug, that the plasma device applet only shows a new device when you add a device the first time? |
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| 22:35.19 | pinotree | sjuxax: probably neither of both: just nobody worked on it |
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| 22:37.16 | agnitio | is imlib evil now? |
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| 22:40.13 | agnitio | I thought if one subscribed to slashdot, one would know theese things! ;) |
| 22:40.39 | DanielW | ok it just doesn't like my card reader. it only shows new added cards the first time i insert one after restart of kde |
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| 22:45.17 | kdepepo | sjuxax, if you port kuickshow to not depend on old gtk1/imlib, I spend a beer :) |
| 22:46.02 | aaroncampbell | agnitio: Any idea what format those cursors are in? I would prefer to open it in photoshop or fireworks, but they don't recognize it |
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| 22:47.41 | agnitio | aaroncampbell: try gimp and save them in another format |
| 22:49.43 | DanielW | how would i report a bug in solid? |
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| 22:50.55 | pinotree | DanielW: what should be the problem? |
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| 22:51.40 | kdepepo | aaroncampbell, mouse cursors? I think they are XPM files... try The GIMP or KolourPaint. |
| 22:53.11 | aaroncampbell | Thanks. I didn't have either of those installed, but was able to open with gwenview and save as png |
| 22:53.28 | DanielW | pinotree: the bug i want to report? or what is my problem with reporting it? |
| 22:53.37 | pinotree | the former |
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| 22:54.31 | moongose | hola |
| 22:54.53 | pinotree | hi |
| 22:55.23 | DanielW | ok i am not sure if it is bug in solid or one in hald. but i enter a sd card in my card reader its volume(s) only gets detected ever 5th time or something like that. the other time it only detects the card itself but not its volumes. but in both cases the /dev node for the partition is created by udev |
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| 22:55.46 | drantin | not a problem with the card itself? |
| 22:55.52 | DanielW | because of that the device plasma appelt doesn't show it most of the time |
| 22:56.01 | moongose | alguien hablas español |
| 22:56.05 | pinotree | check with lshal whether the device is seen by hal |
| 22:56.35 | DanielW | drantin: problem with the card? why then can i mount it (with mount)? |
| 22:56.38 | DanielW | pinotree: ok |
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| 23:01.19 | DanielW | pinotree: ok lshal is not showing it. so bug in hal? |
| 23:01.29 | pinotree | indeed |
| 23:01.45 | pinotree | try with the trick you said above |
| 23:02.01 | DanielW | trick? |
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| 23:03.21 | pinotree | "my card reader its volume(s) only gets detected ever 5th time or something like that." |
| 23:03.51 | pinotree | when kde sees it, verify again with lshal that the device effectively appears there |
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| 23:04.50 | DanielW | i tried that. if kde shows it lshal shows it. /dev/mmcblk0p1 is always created |
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| 23:05.28 | pinotree | ok, then looks like an hal problem indeed |
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| 23:42.12 | d2y | hey, I just downloaded fedora core 9 with KDE 4, and most of the text have these weird orangish lines through, them, does anyone know what these are? |
| 23:42.24 | d2y | I can take a screenshot if no one knows what Im talking about |
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| 23:43.25 | d2y | oh, nvm, it's 3.5.9, but it has all the kde 4 stuff, plasmoids and such |
| 23:44.10 | d2y | anyone? |
| 23:45.01 | fde | d2y: Fedora 9 does not have KDE3 |
| 23:45.35 | d2y | it says kde release 3.5.9-8.fc9 |
| 23:46.07 | fde | d2y: Maybe kdelibs for KDE3 apps? KDE3 is NOT in Fedora 9 |
| 23:46.29 | d2y | oh, ok, makes sense, im looking at it in konversation |
| 23:46.59 | d2y | which doesn't have that weird text problem |
| 23:47.19 | fde | d2y: As for your issue, I have no idea, I'm sticking to KDE3 until KDE4.1 is released. |
| 23:47.28 | d2y | hmmmm... |
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| 23:47.59 | d2y | also, Juk and amarok always hang when I try to edit tags in my flac files, do you think I'm just being too impatient? |
| 23:48.22 | d2y | cause I've heard of it taking 20 or so seconds to edit metadata, because of a badly designed file structure |
| 23:48.43 | d2y | oh sorry, I always end up killing them |
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| 23:54.54 | deitarion | How do I trigger the K menu via DCOP? |
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| 23:57.01 | MinceR | kicker.kicker.popupKMenu(QPoint globalPos) |
| 23:57.10 | MinceR | (the QPoint consists of an X and a Y value) |
| 23:58.10 | deitarion | Thanks. Now I can finally complete my "after-market rounded window corners" tool. (I'm addicted to slamming my cursor and scrolling to switch desktops or right-clicking for the menu... but only two windeco themes keep rounded corners on maximize) |
| 23:59.44 | deitarion | Kind of sad though. I run KDE apps almost exclusively, but PyQt and PyKDE are painful enough that I ended up using PyGTK with PyDCOP. |
