| 00:00.15 | jonaskoelker | oneforall: not mount how, see how? |
| 00:00.24 | kdepepo | jonaskoelker, did you burn it as an image or as a data CD |
| 00:00.30 | jonaskoelker | kdepepo: image |
| 00:00.55 | oneforall | oh yeah did you do as my sone did and burned it as a file . |
| 00:02.14 | oneforall | he grabbed a ububtu . first burn he did and it wasn't bootable . Oh you can stick the dvd in and see if it mounts like a dvd does with hal.. etc |
| 00:02.15 | jonaskoelker | oneforall: tools -> burn CD image... ;;; I guess that burns an iso the Right Way; correct? |
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| 00:02.31 | jonaskoelker | oneforall: it's a CD, but hold on... |
| 00:02.50 | jonaskoelker | eek |
| 00:03.01 | jonaskoelker | "you must specify the filesystem type" |
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| 00:03.18 | jonaskoelker | with -t iso9660: "wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdd ..." |
| 00:03.19 | jonaskoelker | :\ |
| 00:03.53 | jonaskoelker | towards the end of the burn, the hardware buffer level got worryingly low; might that be the issue? |
| 00:04.12 | jonaskoelker | ... or would k3b have complained and said "baaahhh" if it had been an issue? |
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| 00:05.18 | oneforall | yeah if the iso was good then Burn CD Image should have done |
| 00:05.34 | jonaskoelker | oneforall: the bootable flag is in the iso, right? |
| 00:05.55 | oneforall | well yeah if the iso was made bootable it should be in there |
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| 00:06.37 | oneforall | you can do a mount od the iso and see . if it doesn't mount then probably curropt |
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| 00:09.30 | oneforall | or sudo mount -o lopp ... |
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| 00:10.20 | ethan961 | lolly lopper |
| 00:14.51 | oneforall | isoinfo -l -i name.iso |
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| 01:12.09 | _ZeuZ_ | Guys, is there any benchmark comparing Gnome 2.22 and KDE 4.X? If it can be, with 4.1 beta included... |
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| 02:00.43 | hunteke | As a relatively high-level observer of KDE (read: an end-user), where might I find a list of pseudo-technical changes and statistics about KDE 4.1? I'm apparently having a tough time navigating the kde.org website ... |
| 02:01.00 | hunteke | Such as a list of new features, list of currently open bugs, etc. The announcement discussion is great, but I'm looking for one with pointers to discussion, not discussion in-built. Perhaps a table somewhere? |
| 02:01.08 | hunteke | My main questions involve memory usage and speed of KDE 4.1 *and* programs, but I figure I'll learn more from a comprehensive list ... |
| 02:01.41 | DanielW | hunteke: mhh |
| 02:02.07 | DanielW | hunteke: ok for open bugs you may take a look at bugs.kde.org (there are also statistics) |
| 02:02.12 | hunteke | mhh? |
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| 02:03.28 | hunteke | oh cool. I haven't been there, thanks for that pointer. That's just a bit more comprehensive that I'm used to seeing with Bugzilla et al. |
| 02:03.33 | hunteke | I'll check that out |
| 02:04.21 | DanielW | hunteke: http://techbase.kde.org/index.php?title=Schedules/KDE4/4.1_Feature_Plan <- then there the feature plan for 4.1 |
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| 02:07.21 | hunteke | DanielW: great links. Do you have anything slightly higher-level, more user-oriented? |
| 02:07.34 | hunteke | or anything memory/benchmark oriented? |
| 02:09.08 | DanielW | user oriented? well, the normal kde press releases? and i don't know of any benchmarks or memory usage things. but install it and test it... |
| 02:10.09 | DanielW | theren there is the weekly commit digest: http://commit-digest.org/ a commented overview about what changed that week in kde. (sometimes there are short presentations of new applications in it and so on) |
| 02:10.41 | DanielW | also with statistics like: Commits: 2097 by 223 developers, 4725 lines modified, 994 new files. |
| 02:11.30 | DanielW | but well that is also more for developers than normal endusers |
| 02:12.34 | DanielW | hunteke: then there is planet-kde.org (there was for example a benchmark of the new khtml javascript implementation) |
| 02:14.33 | hunteke | DanielW: don't get me wrong, I'm a dev type myself, but not for the KDE project. I'm interested in talking to my boss/admins about KDE, what with some of the hype I've been reading, but I'm having a strangely hard time tracking down materials that my boss would ... appreciate |
| 02:15.16 | hunteke | and as a non-kde dev, I'm looking for a higher-level discussion than bugs, etc. |
| 02:15.39 | DanielW | ok |
| 02:15.50 | hunteke | you've given me some links that I didn't have though, so thanks. I'll look through them, then perhaps check back here in a few days. |
| 02:17.08 | DanielW | ok, the problem the normal information on kde.org are very outdated :-( it is speeking of arts as new technic...) |
| 02:18.53 | DanielW | hunteke: maybe the websites of the new core technologies like plasma, solid nd so one helps you? plasma.kde.org , solid.kde.org? they all have a nice introducion text for endusers |
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| 02:21.04 | DanielW | but well i may be wrong, but i think there is no good overview of kde 4 on kde.org. you should try some of the reviews at the linux websites |
| 02:21.32 | hunteke | DanielW: okie doke. Thank you for your help. |
| 02:21.35 | l-e-e | im trying to report bug against 4.1, having problem finding an easy way to sort and search for existing bugs that only pertain to a specific version of kde. can someone explain how to do this pls. thx |
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| 02:23.16 | DanielW | l-e-e: i think nearly everyone has that problems. (i hate the search on bugs.kde.org) |
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| 02:26.06 | DanielW | l-e-e: just use the wizard to report it. it will bring up a list of bugs which may be similar. search it there. if you can not find a similiar one just report it. |
| 02:26.36 | l-e-e | okay, well that really sucks. makes it real inconvenient to report bug. |
| 02:26.43 | l-e-e | oh ok |
| 02:27.14 | l-e-e | that will work, but how about if i want to just comment on bugs within a specific version of kde, i.e kde 4.1 |
| 02:27.31 | l-e-e | that are already reported |
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| 02:31.44 | eross | where is kde4 irc? |
| 02:32.19 | l-e-e | DanielW: so no way to search bugs by release? |
| 02:32.40 | DanielW | l-e-e: well there is |
| 02:32.42 | eross | can i ask kde4 questions here |
| 02:32.52 | DanielW | eross: you can |
| 02:32.56 | l-e-e | sure |
| 02:34.05 | l-e-e | DanielW: how? |
| 02:34.08 | eross | cool, I'm just confused about the purpose of the Desktop - the file is there but you can hit the 'X' and make it go away from the desktop. If it's not displayed but still exists in the Desktop folder, does it use resources still |
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| 02:34.35 | DanielW | l-e-e: but a lot of bugs doesn't have a version number added. and then there are a lot of svn users (for 4.1 nearly all users have build form sources). so the best thing if you want to search for bugs in kde 4 is to select a date range from where the bug should be |
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| 02:35.02 | DanielW | eross: you are using 4.0.4? |
| 02:36.08 | DanielW | and well a file on the desktop takes resources. memory and so on in plasma at runtime and diskspace in your desktop folder. but in 4.1 you can use the folder view applet to have files on your desktop |
| 02:36.24 | eross | 4.0.3 |
| 02:37.03 | l-e-e | wow, thats crazy. so the devs who fix these bugs can tell what version os they're reporting the bug against by?... a description that the reporter puts in? |
| 02:37.37 | l-e-e | eross: i just installed kvirc 3.5 it works fine |
| 02:37.42 | l-e-e | ugly though |
| 02:37.56 | g2g591 | svn ftw |
| 02:38.15 | DanielW | eross: so well the desktop icon thing is not very good there. you may take a look at http://aseigo.blogspot.com/2008/05/no-more-desktop-icons-in-41.html to see what it will look like in 4.1 and what is the idea behind it is |
| 02:39.22 | eross | thanks |
| 02:39.30 | DanielW | l-e-e: well the reporter can put in whata os he is using (linux, windows, os x, freebsd and so on) and if it is really something os version releated one can write it in the report itself |
| 02:40.04 | l-e-e | DanielW: ok, so this also applies to the version of kde they are using? |
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| 02:40.36 | g2g591 | l-e-e: theres a thing for that too |
| 02:40.52 | g2g591 | if i remember right... yeah, pretty sure... |
| 02:41.06 | oneforall | err I donno whats making changing tabs in konq so slow for the web pages :( |
| 02:41.07 | l-e-e | g2g591: there is a way to search bugs by kde version? |
| 02:41.08 | DanielW | there is a thing for version sure |
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| 02:41.21 | l-e-e | oneforall: yeah really slow for me too |
| 02:41.43 | DanielW | but if you do not use a release version you select compiled sources as version. so if you want to search bugs it is no good idea to only search in a selected version |
| 02:41.55 | l-e-e | ok im on bugs.kde.org, what do i do to search bugs by version only? |
| 02:42.19 | DanielW | l-e-e: https://bugs.kde.org/query.cgi <- there just select the versions you want to search in |
| 02:42.33 | l-e-e | at this point all i care about are bugs reported on kde 4.1 svn, can i do that? |
| 02:42.34 | DanielW | but you will miss a lot of bugs that way |
| 02:42.42 | oneforall | seamonkey/ff are worse thou for some pages. have to wait till its finished . stops you from using them till its done. stinks to that crappy ie loads them better. starting to feel like a reverse now :) |
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| 02:43.11 | l-e-e | DanielW: is that because sometimes people don't select a version? that should be mandatory during reporting. |
| 02:43.19 | l-e-e | thx for your help all. |
| 02:43.22 | DanielW | l-e-e: not really. as they have not really a version. the svn version from 2 month ago is not the same as the one form today |
| 02:43.44 | DanielW | l-e-e: you always have to select a version. but one version is "compiled sources" or something like that |
| 02:44.00 | oneforall | your using kde4 ? still 3.5.9 here . |
| 02:44.35 | l-e-e | oneforall: you're not using kde4? |
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| 02:44.45 | g2g591 | oneforall: I must insist you try 4.1 beta 1 |
| 02:44.53 | oneforall | weird if I do the shade and unshade then its refreshign quicker O.o |
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| 02:45.21 | l-e-e | todays build of kde 4.1, konqueror tabs can be slow most of the time, when you create a new one. |
| 02:45.28 | l-e-e | at least for me |
| 02:45.54 | DanielW | l-e-e: here is a bug i reported against kde 4.1 svn a few weeks ago. https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=161443 the problem at version it says: Version: unspecified mhh, maybe i am doing something wrong? |
| 02:46.04 | oneforall | g2g591 yeah I will get around to trying 4 soon . but I still need to think about the best way to have both 3.5.9 and 4 since some stuff still doesn't compile for 4 |
| 02:46.17 | g2g591 | l-e-e: any non konqueror issues that stand out before I rebuild? |
| 02:46.27 | thrawn | kubuntu packages are not rdy for 4.1 beta 1, yet, but I'm trying the 4.0.4 build. Very nice. Compiling kde/trunk tho. lol |
| 02:46.38 | g2g591 | oneforall: go ahead, keep kdelibs from kde 3.5 around. then you can run kde 3 apps til your hearts content |
| 02:46.56 | oneforall | not to wooried about the intigration . I find that annoying to when I move a lot of files and some other app is not refreshign till the move is down etc |
| 02:47.06 | l-e-e | g2g591: it's running well for me. a bit slow rendering things sometimes and i have a good video card. |
| 02:47.19 | l-e-e | g2g591: the best shape i've seen it in with this build. |
| 02:47.27 | oneforall | is that all i need is kdelib ? I need to what ever to compile them too |
| 02:47.35 | oneforall | well at3 of course |
| 02:47.42 | oneforall | err at3/qt3 |
| 02:48.24 | g2g591 | oneforall: all you need to run kde 3.5 apps is qt3 and kdelibs-3.5.x |
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| 02:48.47 | l-e-e | im running kvirc 3.5.9 on kde 4.1 |
| 02:48.49 | oneforall | thats easy getting qt3 and 4 using /usr/ . but thinking about the binaries and /usr/ . qt the links in /usr/bin are done with adding the suffix -qt4 :0 |
| 02:50.19 | oneforall | yeah I'm not just thinking to run thou . compiling too |
| 02:50.19 | l-e-e | agh |
| 02:50.19 | g2g591 | oneforall: what distro are you on? |
| 02:50.20 | l-e-e | g2g591: what distro are u on? |
| 02:50.21 | g2g591 | oneforall: and kde 4 compiles faster than kde 3 |
| 02:50.21 | g2g591 | l-e-e: Gentoo |
| 02:50.21 | oneforall | my own crosscompile of slack to 64bit . keeping must like slack |
| 02:50.21 | l-e-e | oneforall: what about bluewhite? |
| 02:51.39 | oneforall | no thanks :) mine is multilib for compiling too his aint and I like slamd 64 . But i wanted to get gcc with multilib ada,jjava (those were the 2 that made getting multilib abd bitch) but I got it |
| 02:51.41 | oneforall | :) |
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| 02:52.33 | oneforall | abd/a |
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| 02:53.50 | oneforall | tacig the problem dow I knew the file but where in the file . so I added I LOVE SEX 24/7 in 20 placed that looked like the problem was. I knew I wouldn't miss that fly buy |
| 02:54.37 | g2g591 | oneforall: I think ill stick with letting my Disto decided how to compile things (but i still get to choose what support gets compiled into what). |
| 02:55.04 | l-e-e | man this kde bug site really is disappointing |
| 02:55.24 | l-e-e | is there a development channel for kde? |
| 02:55.28 | l-e-e | like kde-devel? |
| 02:55.58 | g2g591 | yes |
| 02:57.12 | oneforall | well slackware has no offical 64bit and I like slack . thats no big problem . I have no rush for 4 yet . I know I could use /opt or usr/local but I want it to be with the offical style more than the usr style as allways . |
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| 03:00.46 | oneforall | g2g591 plus I'm kinda hoping to see PAT scripts for building kde4 too ;) |
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| 03:01.07 | oneforall | PAT's* |
| 03:02.01 | g2g591 | oneforall: definition. ebuild - a script that tells gentoo's package manager how to download, build, and install a package. svn, git, and cvs ebuilds are easily possible. |
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| 03:03.37 | g2g591 | Gentoo is nice, thier KDE group has 4.0.x in the main package area, and has svn ebuilds available for those who like the trunk |
| 03:04.26 | g2g591 | crosscompiling? sure we got that. /end blatent promotion of distrobution |
| 03:07.09 | oneforall | yeah I know gentoo but I'm happy with slack style . I like the build scripts . most are the same basic template . some more tweaking . some one made those spec and found out all the tweaks for you . |
| 03:07.53 | oneforall | yeah the crosscompile I done a long time ago now |
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| 03:17.43 | oneforall | anyways back . this is all I find ctrl+F1 http://rafb.net/p/RAL1xE78.html thats quite a few times |
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| 04:18.34 | supert0nes | how would i configure the client to start kde4? |
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| 04:48.21 | xevix | hey, kubuntu 8.04 kde 4.0.3 |
| 04:48.34 | xevix | how do i get kmix/kpowersave to autostart? |
| 04:48.52 | xevix | i've tried an sh script in ~/.kde/Autostart but no go |
| 04:49.09 | supert0nes | chmod +X ? |
| 04:49.34 | xevix | already +x'ed it |
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| 04:50.19 | xevix | i believe other things are in that script are being autostarted, just not kmix and kpowersave |
| 04:50.28 | xevix | i'm thinking that it tries to load them before kde's fully loaded or something |
| 04:50.30 | xevix | but i'm unsure |
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| 05:47.41 | EvanR | whats new in the kde world |
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| 07:14.06 | VagaStorm | I have kde 3.5.7 fresh install with opensuse 10.3, but I can't get "alt gr" to work... I need that key to type the (AT) char.... any ideas? |
| 07:14.13 | psteyn | ohai2u |
| 07:14.35 | VagaStorm | I do have the correct keyboardlayout selected |
| 07:14.43 | VagaStorm | n' hi :) |
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| 07:29.26 | lemma | VagaStorm: it sounds like something about your X keyboard setup is wrong |
| 07:30.09 | lemma | VagaStorm: first thing to do would be checking your xorg.conf for correct keyboard model, layout, variant and options |
| 07:31.55 | gmartyn | oh i missed VagaStorm's comment, but I'm having trouble with keyboard too |
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| 07:32.09 | gmartyn | kde, gnome, doesn't matter |
| 07:32.28 | gmartyn | doesn't work as my usual user (i upgraded) |
| 07:32.35 | gmartyn | if i login as root, it works fine |
| 07:32.46 | lemma | gmartyn: that sounds strange. |
| 07:33.06 | gmartyn | is that the same problem? |
| 07:33.08 | lemma | gmartyn, VagaStorm: please also consider asking in your distribution's channel. they usually will know better than we do :) |
| 07:33.16 | gmartyn | oh |
| 07:33.24 | gmartyn | was thinking i was in #fedora :) |
| 07:33.28 | lemma | haha |
| 07:33.30 | lemma | :-) |
| 07:33.41 | gmartyn | sry |
| 07:33.51 | lemma | slaps gmartyn around a bit with a large off-topic-trout :D |
| 07:33.54 | blauzahl-laptop | 3.5.7? "fresh"? |
| 07:33.56 | lemma | no problem |
| 07:34.12 | lemma | I wonder if opensuse has a stoneage-buildservice |
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| 07:34.39 | blauzahl-laptop | well, rhel5 seems to give me 3.5.5 at work :P |
| 07:34.46 | blauzahl-laptop | "stable" |
| 07:35.31 | lemma | doesn't like "stable". it seems so bourgeois |
| 07:35.33 | blauzahl-laptop | i cry at the difference between 3.5.x konq and konq in 4 |
| 07:35.50 | blauzahl-laptop | but its a fast computer, so it doesn't matter as much :) |
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| 07:39.53 | VagaStorm | kk, thanx I figured it out. In the kde settings => xkb options. I din't realize I had to tik the "reset old options" for it to realize what boxes I had not selected any more. |
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| 08:17.53 | faLUCE | hi. my autoconf stuff doesn't recognize KDE_FIND_PATH macro. what should i do in order to add it to the environment ? |
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| 08:23.12 | joe7d6 | should i try kde 4.0 or 4.1? which is more usable? :) |
| 08:23.54 | faLUCE | pinotree i'm trying to modify the configure.in file of a project. when i insert new autoconf macros (for example AC_MSG_WARN ) they are recognized, but when i insert for example KDE_FIND_PATH autoconf doesn't recognize it |
| 08:23.57 | thiago | 4.0 is more limited, 4.1 is more broken (right now) |
| 08:24.11 | thiago | faLUCE: what are you compiling? |
| 08:24.20 | pinotree | you need the kde admin directory |
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| 08:24.41 | ELITE_x | hey annma :) |
| 08:24.43 | faLUCE | pinotree: what should i do to have it ? |
| 08:25.14 | pinotree | svn co svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/branches/KDE/3.5/kde-common/admin |
| 08:26.00 | faLUCE | ok pinotree, so if i install this package i have the kde macros in my system ? |
| 08:26.24 | thiago | faLUCE: check if there's an "admin" subdir inside already |
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| 08:27.45 | faLUCE | thiago, don't have it |
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| 08:27.57 | faLUCE | let's install pinotree's stuff |
| 08:28.06 | thiago | now answer my previous question: what program are you trying to compile? |
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| 08:28.20 | faLUCE | thiago, a program written by me |
| 08:28.28 | thiago | ah, that explains |
| 08:28.36 | pinotree | faLUCE: you don't install it, you a) place it as subdirectory of the root in your project b) then adapt the build system to it |
| 08:28.55 | thiago | you will need to rewrite most of your buildsystem to use it |
| 08:28.56 | pinotree | the best then would be if you start from a kde template |
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| 08:28.59 | thiago | no more configure.in |
| 08:29.08 | thiago | it's configure.in.in, with less stuff |
| 08:29.21 | thiago | but... why are you writing a KDE 3 application? |
| 08:30.49 | thiago | don't you hate when you quit Kopete by accident? |
| 08:31.30 | annma | hi ELITE_x :) |
| 08:31.36 | faLUCE | pinotree: let me understand; if i start with a kde template, then the project can be exported through non-kde distros |
| 08:31.42 | faLUCE | right ? |
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| 08:31.54 | faLUCE | (s/can/can't |
| 08:31.55 | faLUCE | ) |
| 08:31.58 | pinotree | "non-kde distro" makes no sense at all |
| 08:32.25 | faLUCE | pinotree: distros without kde stuff (libraries) |
| 08:32.37 | annma | faLUCE: your KDE prog runs on all distros as long as the distro has kdelibs and qt |
| 08:32.48 | annma | how do you want it to run without kdelibs? |
| 08:33.18 | pinotree | faLUCE: no sense anyway; yu are using a build system that is mostly taylored for compiling kde stuff |
| 08:33.24 | pinotree | what is your problem? |
| 08:34.50 | faLUCE | pinotree: ok, i'm using kdevelop as ide. now, if i start a kde project i have configure.in.in and probably it will recognize kde macros. But it creates a project with qt dependencies, and i don't want that |
| 08:35.17 | pinotree | if you use kde macros, then you *want* a kde project |
| 08:35.22 | annma | faLUCE: you don't want a KDE project? |
| 08:35.36 | annma | faLUCE: a KDE project is also a Qt one |
| 08:35.47 | faLUCE | i only want to use KDE_FIND_PATH since i don't find a macro so simple and complete for me in autoconf macros |
| 08:36.00 | faLUCE | but i don't want to build a qt project |
| 08:36.15 | pinotree | you cannot, sorry |
| 08:36.18 | annma | a KDE project is based on Qt |
| 08:36.38 | annma | if you don't want Qt dependencies forget about KDE |
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| 08:36.45 | faLUCE | pinotree: i see, so the only way is to do some scripting inside configure.in, right ? |
| 08:37.01 | pinotree | to do what? |
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| 08:37.17 | faLUCE | to have a substitute for KDE_FIND_PATH |
| 08:37.41 | pinotree | use the proper m4 macros |
| 08:38.37 | faLUCE | pinotree: but I want to find dependencies errors with configure, not with make |
| 08:38.46 | pinotree | ???? |
| 08:38.52 | ELITE_x | hehe |
| 08:39.12 | faLUCE | sorry |
| 08:39.15 | faLUCE | i mean: |
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| 08:39.21 | faLUCE | http://sourceware.org/autobook/autobook/autobook_283.html |
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| 08:39.52 | faLUCE | these are the macros which I found. but there are not many |
| 08:40.02 | pinotree | i suggest you asking in a channel for the autotools |
| 08:40.32 | faLUCE | i see. thnks anyway |
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| 08:52.21 | Richlv | hi. just booted kde4 live cd (with 4.1 beta). opening konqueror settings, i couldn't set proxy manually or get it to use environment variables |
| 08:52.25 | Richlv | is that an intended change ? |
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| 08:54.17 | Richlv | oooh. i think i got it |
| 08:54.34 | Richlv | those containers that fade out, window was not high enough by default, and there is no scrollbar |
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| 08:54.42 | Richlv | so the options were not visible :) |
| 08:54.48 | lemma | Richlv: yes, that's actually a known problem with some dialogs |
| 08:55.09 | annma | Richlv: please can you test something for me? |
| 08:55.16 | Richlv | annma, sure |
| 08:55.20 | annma | Richlv: in System Settings -> About Me |
| 08:55.32 | annma | I need to know what icon is default for User Account |
| 08:55.45 | Richlv | "password & user account" entry ? |
| 08:55.50 | annma | yes please |
| 08:55.55 | annma | the icon on top left |
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| 08:56.00 | Richlv | a user with a small, blue 'i' |
| 08:56.08 | annma | thanks a lot! |
| 08:56.09 | Richlv | the i is located in the right lower corner |
| 08:56.12 | annma | you helped KDE! |
| 08:56.18 | Richlv | i can create a screenshot if required |
| 08:56.31 | annma | no, I'll do one for the doc |
| 08:56.39 | annma | but I could not reset it |
| 08:56.52 | Richlv | btw, would it be worth reporting crashes from the live cd ? |
| 08:57.00 | Richlv | marble crashed, but i wonder whether backtrace would be useful |
| 08:57.17 | annma | oh report in #kde-edu |
| 08:57.27 | annma | I think it would |
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| 09:15.16 | Richlv | any ideas why konqueror is ignoreing manually set proxy in 4.1 beta livecd ? |
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| 09:19.38 | stothepizzle | is kde 4 intended for average joe users yet |
| 09:20.10 | Richlv | no :) |
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| 09:20.24 | stothepizzle | how much longer do i have to wait? |
| 09:20.34 | colo_mobile | I'll wait for 4.2 |
| 09:20.44 | ethan961 | wait, 4.1 is in beta?!? |
| 09:20.47 | stothepizzle | ok |
| 09:20.53 | colo_mobile | ethan961: yes |
| 09:21.01 | ethan961 | sweet! |
| 09:21.19 | ethan961 | off to find a livecd I goes |
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| 09:22.49 | stothepizzle | so whats the current official "stable" release of kde? |
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| 09:23.15 | kishore | stothepizzle: 4.0.4 |
| 09:23.28 | stothepizzle | even though that isn't for average joe? |
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| 09:24.01 | kishore | there also is the kde 3.5.9 |
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| 09:24.14 | kishore | for the average joe :-) |
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| 09:24.43 | ethan961 | kde 3.5.9 is the stable _stable_ release |
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| 09:25.57 | odysseas | Hi all, do I need to do something special to make firefox plugins work with konqueror? I'm running fedora 9 with KDE 4.0.4. |
| 09:26.05 | root | 123 |
| 09:27.06 | ethan961 | root: it is very dangerous to be running... ok then. |
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| 09:29.23 | cb400f | odysseas: you have to do something _very_ special to make that work... firefox != konq |
| 09:30.11 | ethan961 | ff/mozilla plugins are detected and used by konq though... |
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| 09:30.28 | AssociateX | Helo |
| 09:30.33 | AssociateX | Hello* |
| 09:30.35 | cb400f | yeah.. just struck me... I thought he meant firefox extensions |
| 09:30.53 | cb400f | netscape plugins, like flashplayer should "just work" |
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| 09:34.02 | halphaz_ | hi... can I ask about kdesvn installation? Because I've a problem with kdegraphics from about ywo weeks... |
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| 09:37.35 | johntramp | Hey. I have a conky bar across the top of my screen, and I would like to make it so that no window covers the top ten pixels, like what happens with the kde pannel. Can I do this? |
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| 09:38.19 | ethan961 | superkaramba |
| 09:38.27 | ethan961 | :P |
| 09:42.27 | Rasi | johntramp: i know with openbox you can set margins, which is an area that no other windows are allowed to cover |
| 09:42.39 | Rasi | not sure if kwin has such an option too |
| 09:42.43 | Rasi | but you can use openbox inside of kde |
| 09:42.57 | Rasi | and honestly.. its rather nice |
| 09:44.16 | johntramp | Rasi: i used to use openbox with kde, maybe ill set that up again |
| 09:45.27 | johntramp | the one thing i like about kwin is when an app crashes it will terminate it |
| 09:47.33 | Rasi | you havent tried new openbox then :P |
| 09:48.02 | Rasi | 3.4.7.2 does that too |
| 09:48.11 | Rasi | it even has its own logout dialog and such things |
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| 09:56.51 | johntramp | oh nice |
| 09:57.04 | johntramp | i have openbox --replace'd and the margins works well |
| 09:57.11 | johntramp | even obconf has had a facelift :) |
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| 10:04.27 | Richlv | ah. https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=155707 |
| 10:04.37 | Richlv | so it's a quite global problem :) |
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| 10:16.23 | Rasi | ehm... |
| 10:16.31 | Rasi | k3b definately supports udf |
| 10:16.40 | Rasi | why shouldnt mac osx be able to read it... |
| 10:16.52 | Rasi | udf is not system specific at all |
| 10:17.10 | Rasi | otherwise you wouldnt be able to watch dvd videos on macs :) |
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| 10:43.54 | Richlv | The application Plasma Workspace (plasma) crashed and caused the signal 11 (SIGSEGV). |
| 10:43.58 | Richlv | woohoo :) |
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| 10:46.02 | annma | doing what Richlv? |
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| 10:49.16 | Richlv | annma, attempted to add amarok context containment to the panel ;) |
| 10:49.40 | annma | ah amarok is not in plasma |
| 10:49.40 | pinotree | Richlv: your backtrace can be trashed as it is |
| 10:49.56 | pinotree | usefulness: 0% |
| 10:49.57 | Richlv | pinotree, all of them ? |
| 10:50.15 | Richlv | (that is, all of bts produced in this live cd) |
| 10:50.18 | pinotree | #5 0x08739454 in ?? () |
| 10:50.27 | pinotree | they have no symbols, so totally useless |
| 10:51.25 | annma | the live cd has no denug packages Richlv |
| 10:51.28 | annma | debug |
| 10:51.37 | Richlv | well, maybe the problem is reproducible ? |
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| 10:55.00 | annma | I don't have amarok, too young |
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| 10:55.09 | annma | ask in #amarok |
| 10:55.39 | Rasi | last week was the 1st time i could actually play something in amarok |
| 10:55.59 | Richlv | annma, but crash was in plasma - or wasn't it ? |
| 10:56.19 | annma | well you can crash X with something |
| 10:56.28 | annma | will you then report against X? |
| 10:56.46 | annma | Rasi: I could play once but not twice |
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| 10:57.01 | annma | Richlv: report to Suse actually |
| 10:57.14 | annma | not sure why they put crashy stuff in the live CD |
| 10:57.47 | Richlv | annma, if i can crash x ? yes, i would report that to xorg :) (except when using nvidia proprietary driver or something) |
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| 10:58.22 | annma | in your case just report to Suse, they'll forward |
| 10:58.47 | annma | as I don't think Amarok is part of the beta |
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| 11:03.55 | feierfox | hello |
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| 11:12.24 | Richlv | pinotree, which debug packages would be helpful ? i managed to add installation sources and i can install some debug packages |
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| 11:12.34 | Richlv | though probably not too much, will run out of ram :> |
| 11:12.36 | pinotree | that depends on your distro |
| 11:13.02 | cromo | ok. I wanted to report some bugs but got confused with kde bugzilla... I need to check if 'my' bugs have been already reported, but search results are mixed of kde3 and kde4 bugs |
| 11:13.29 | Richlv | pinotree, opensuse livecd |
| 11:13.34 | pinotree | Richlv: #suse |
| 11:13.46 | Richlv | pinotree, well, i was thinking explicitly in plasma crash context |
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| 11:15.49 | annma | Richlv: if amarok applet crash this is Suse bug |
| 11:15.56 | annma | believe me |
| 11:15.59 | Rasi | Richlv: and you might be right with it... still the 1st place to ask is the distributions channel |
| 11:16.05 | annma | Suse responsability |
| 11:16.09 | Rasi | if its upstream they will let the projects developers know |
| 11:16.28 | annma | Richlv: I keep a list of plasma applets bugs |
| 11:16.33 | annma | released applets |
| 11:16.46 | annma | not playground or unfinished things |
| 11:17.01 | annma | so I think I know what I am talking about |
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| 11:22.03 | Richlv | annma, well, just like i'd expect os not to crash because of apps, i'd expect some random applets not to crash plasma :) |
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| 11:24.20 | Rasi | Richlv: well.. how often did apps cause a BSOD in windows |
| 11:24.31 | Rasi | and dont tell me its ALL Microsofts fault |
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| 11:28.03 | Richlv | Rasi, as i said, apps should never crash the os. though 3rd party drivers can contribute a lot to crashiness... |
| 11:28.21 | annma | Richlv: you expect too much |
| 11:28.28 | annma | look at windows |
| 11:29.00 | annma | Richlv: "should never" is utopia |
| 11:29.18 | annma | war and hunger should never kill innocents |
| 11:29.25 | Richlv | ok, i'll rephrase that |
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| 11:30.10 | annma | Richlv: you can see it as you want but reality makes it a Suse problem first and an amarok one second |
| 11:30.21 | annma | a plasma one might come third |
| 11:30.22 | Richlv | if a component that has a myriad of pluggable parts can be crashed by such a part, the component itself should be fixed :) |
| 11:30.40 | annma | see what I wrote and keep it there please |
| 11:30.50 | Richlv | downloading & running some badly coded plasma applet should not crash plasma |
| 11:30.59 | annma | unless you want to waste everybody's time |
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| 11:31.16 | annma | the thing itself cannot crash Richlv |
| 11:31.23 | oneforall | what would make is qhwn I drag drop from the panel to the tree folder it freezes ? |
| 11:31.26 | annma | an applet is a plugin == a lib |
| 11:31.30 | Richlv | well, i'm abandoning this case then... will look for other problems :) |
| 11:31.47 | annma | an applet is a plugin == a lib == part of plasma as soon as it's installed |
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| 11:32.43 | annma | will you blame your whole body when a virus attacks it? |
| 11:32.57 | annma | wow I'm so good today in metaphors!!!! |
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| 11:33.19 | yo | who is sick? |
| 11:33.26 | annma | ;) |
| 11:33.32 | yo | :D |
| 11:33.59 | oneforall | konq in 3.5.9 |
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| 11:34.02 | annma | Richlv: I know plasma is buggy and I'm doing what I can to fix it so I'm not in denial |
| 11:34.30 | yo | kdeplasmoid looks great ....no crash |
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| 11:35.02 | annma | I disabled Lancelot as it crashed yo |
| 11:35.26 | yo | never see Lancelot works |
| 11:35.38 | yo | but i know dev |
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| 11:35.39 | yo | haahah |
| 11:36.01 | yo | civan |
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| 11:36.07 | annma | too bad you did the report nevertheless Richlv |
| 11:36.17 | annma | Ivan |
| 11:36.21 | yo | yes |
| 11:36.29 | yo | serbia -belgrade |
| 11:36.48 | annma | great guy |
| 11:36.55 | yo | :D |
| 11:36.56 | annma | I met him last year |
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| 11:37.11 | annma | Richlv: so, what's the exact name of that applet please? |
| 11:37.11 | Richlv | annma, oh, so there is no way to allow widgets to crash without bringing down all other widgets ? |
| 11:37.24 | annma | Richlv: you made the report, I'll deal with it |
| 11:37.33 | annma | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:37.43 | annma | as it is in Add Widgets dialog |
| 11:38.37 | annma | Richlv: please |
| 11:39.11 | yo | i think we don't see osx widgets in kde 4.1 ...? |
| 11:41.41 | Rasi | ? |
| 11:42.13 | Rasi | you can use them for weeks now |
| 11:42.42 | oneforall | geez now konq(file manager mode but on some sites and downloading (drag drop) and its just not refreshign to day very well at all . and when it does only some is coming back |
| 11:43.07 | yo | i try ...just one was working |
| 11:43.56 | oneforall | or the drag drop freezes . ctrl+F1 and I'm not seeing any other then those same old output X Error Bad Window ... |
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| 11:47.31 | oneforall | 20 0 405m 166m 25m R 98 16.6 6:52.94 konqueror thats a lot for the few tabs I have open . that maybe a mem leak? |
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| 11:54.15 | Richlv | annma, sorry for disappearing, plasma went into <defunct> |
| 11:54.29 | Richlv | annma, widget name is "Context" |
| 11:54.33 | annma | i closed your report |
| 11:54.40 | annma | see amarok channel |
| 11:54.48 | Richlv | ok |
| 11:54.56 | annma | they said exactly what I explained to you |
| 11:55.10 | annma | so please next time either ask and listen or don't ask |
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| 11:56.55 | Richlv | hiding the applet from add widget list seems to be the best solution for now |
| 12:00.00 | annma | the best solution is not to ship a broken app, Suse should have patched it |
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| 12:00.26 | annma | Suse chooses to ship an alpha app, they should patch it |
| 12:00.51 | annma | anyway there's nothing Plasma team can do here |
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| 12:13.53 | Richlv | annma, ok, ok, i got it :) |
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| 12:15.13 | Richlv | a crash in kgoldrunner (same 4.1 beta livecd). i launch it, click on 'use menu', 'ok', then choose "settings->play sounds" - crashes |
| 12:15.22 | Richlv | in case somebody can try to reproduce |
| 12:16.37 | annma | do other apps play sound OK? |
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| 12:17.02 | Richlv | annma, i can hear system sounds ok |
| 12:17.21 | Richlv | and the option is on by default, i am disabling it when the crash occurs |
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| 12:19.26 | Richlv | sound works in kollision as well |
| 12:20.06 | annma | #kde-games maybe to ask if there's somebody |
| 12:20.15 | annma | #kdegames maybe to ask if there's somebody |
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| 12:35.38 | alex[slx] | Hi, having trouble with device icons on the desktop. I have a usb attatched IDE hard drive, it's set up in fstab with 'defaults,noauto,users' and works fine from cli. It also shows up on the desktop as a USB drive. However, I want to created my own device icon for a hard drive. |
| 12:36.51 | alex[slx] | If I do this, when ever I click on it, it seems that KDE tries to mount it. So the first time, nothing *appears* to happen, but it's actually mounting it, then when I try to open it it says that it's already mounted. |
| 12:37.08 | alex[slx] | Or it's busy. |
| 12:37.25 | alex[slx] | So, why does KDE keep trying to mount it?! |
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| 12:38.15 | annma | alex[slx]: what kde version and what distro? |
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| 12:38.43 | alex[slx] | annma: Fedora 8, KDE 3.5.9 |
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| 12:39.40 | mib_qo30eqsm | Hi all |
| 12:39.55 | annma | alex[slx]: did you ask in #fedora about it? |
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| 12:40.03 | alex[slx] | annma: No. |
| 12:40.23 | mib_qo30eqsm | does anyone of you know in which config file it is saved that dolphin has the panels attached or detached to the main window |
| 12:40.24 | alex[slx] | I think it's a KDE problem. |
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| 12:40.48 | annma | do you? |
| 12:40.55 | alex[slx] | Yes. |
| 12:41.42 | alex[slx] | Fedora handles the drive fine, it's just the icon business that's screwing up. |
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| 13:48.03 | tech9iner | is listening to Laura B - Spaced from THE BUZZOUTROOM: ... Chilled-out Ambient Downbeats [Amarok] |
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| 13:48.23 | tech9iner | ruhroh.. wrong 'bat' channel.. sorry pinotree |
| 13:48.23 | Aleksandr | Hi!!! can someone help with explaining on how to install Plasma Themes?? |
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| 13:49.07 | discipolo | IDENTIFY rastafa |
| 13:49.13 | twouters | ouch |
| 13:49.29 | Aleksandr | =D |
| 13:49.33 | discipulo | ??? |
| 13:50.15 | twouters | Aleksandr: you can install plasma themes by rightclicking on desktop and select configure desktop |
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| 13:50.59 | Aleksandr | I dont find any option to make a different taskbar) |
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| 13:53.30 | twouters | i'm currently not on a kde desktop so i can't help you with that Aleksandr |
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| 14:02.37 | Faithful | Hey, all of a sudden when I try to login the screen goes black and then takes me back to the kdm login screen.... any ideas? |
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| 14:08.48 | amundsen | hi |
| 14:09.07 | amundsen | i've just updated my f9 and the kde4 panel desapeared |
| 14:09.18 | amundsen | did anyone solved this problem ? |
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| 14:10.58 | zortha | @amundsen googles ure friend |
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| 14:15.28 | _prophecy_ | I was trying to compile kde svn and had a hangup with marble... Does anybody know which version of gpsd I have to have to get mable svn to compile? my build log is at http://rafb.net/p/XLmWxE38.html |
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| 14:45.52 | Aleksandr | where can I find the taskbar settings on kde? |
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| 14:55.16 | ann_out | Aleksandr: right click on it |
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| 15:21.38 | arab | moin :) |
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| 15:26.25 | arab | i'm doing kde from svn source, how to force konqueror to use webkit? |
| 15:26.29 | arab | right now it says: -- cmake package FindWebKitKde.cmake was not found. This package needs webkitkde to be compile all program |
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| 15:28.56 | annma | arab: then do as it says |
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| 15:29.14 | annma | taht's nothing to do with konqueror though arab |
| 15:29.34 | annma | if it needs webkit then get webkit |
| 15:29.42 | arab | annma: so it seems, but the cmake file seems unavailable in the standard kdelibs/kdepimlibs/kdebase directories |
| 15:29.55 | arab | annma: qt-webkit is there |
| 15:30.11 | arab | and logs from kdelibs seem to find it properly. |
| 15:30.11 | annma | the cmake files are OK |
| 15:30.19 | annma | what qt version? |
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| 15:30.54 | arab | 4.4.0 final |
| 15:31.55 | arab | only kdebase is complaining about webkit :/ |
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| 15:32.32 | ubuntu | hi |
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| 15:32.58 | ubuntu | i have one problem... |
| 15:33.13 | annma | did you build qt yourself? |
| 15:33.18 | annma | arab: ^^ |
| 15:33.22 | annma | ubuntu: don't we all |
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| 15:34.27 | ubuntu | my net connection is working, but i can't open any page in my firefox, wat;s going on? |
| 15:34.28 | arab | annma: nope, qt comes from gentoo ebuilds |
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| 15:34.51 | pinotree | ubuntu: #ubuntu please |
| 15:35.59 | annma | arab: so if these are gentoo ebuilds please ask the gentoo channel |
| 15:36.14 | annma | #gentoo-kde I think |
| 15:36.31 | arab | annma: not really, kde ain't from ebuilds, it's a more generic question |
| 15:36.32 | arab | tho |
| 15:36.35 | arab | i've found my problem |
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| 15:36.59 | arab | i need to compile http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/playground/libs/webkitkde/ first ;) |
| 15:37.11 | arab | so in case anybody asks ;) |
| 15:37.15 | annma | for what? |
| 15:37.22 | annma | for building what? |
| 15:37.45 | annma | not for kdepimlibs |
| 15:37.53 | annma | or kdebase |
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| 15:41.14 | yo | macro_optional_add_subdirectory(webkitkde) that is cmake file so if u build libs =webkitkde |
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| 15:43.19 | arab | yo: and that to be in kdebase build dir as i suppose? |
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| 15:43.51 | yo | playground ? |
| 15:44.00 | arab | ok |
| 15:44.02 | arab | thanks |
| 15:44.09 | yo | you can build playground or not |
| 15:46.02 | arab | so trunk/playground/ is a place where all the fun is happening? :) |
| 15:46.13 | yo | yes |
| 15:46.18 | yo | and bugs |
| 15:46.20 | yo | :D |
| 15:46.37 | arab | this i know from buildbot ;) |
| 15:46.52 | arab | thanks yo! i'll try and play with playground a bit ;) |
| 15:47.07 | yo | np |
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| 15:51.15 | faemir | Is it just me or is there no way to import bookmarks in konq in kde4.1beta1? |
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| 15:58.27 | pinotree | jpds: hm? who are you? |
| 15:58.36 | jpds | pinotree: jpatrick |
| 15:58.41 | jpds | pinotree: /whois me |
| 15:58.41 | pinotree | ah |
| 15:59.05 | pinotree | wonders what the 's' is for |
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| 16:02.19 | jpds | pinotree: last letter of last name ;-) |
| 16:02.29 | pinotree | that is? :P |
| 16:02.41 | pinotree | ah |
| 16:03.59 | halphaz_ | Hi... I've a problem building extragear/multimedia with kdesvn-build : http://rafb.net/p/6O9sqE44.html here is my /usr/src/kde/log/2008.../extragear/graphics/cmake.log |
| 16:04.05 | halphaz_ | can you help me? |
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| 16:04.43 | pinotree | you need to compile kdegraphics |
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| 16:04.56 | halphaz_ | pinotree, it's compiled |
| 16:05.51 | halphaz_ | I didn't look at logs... but I think it compiled... the script says it's ok |
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| 16:06.04 | halphaz_ | but i'm going to see the log |
| 16:06.26 | sportman | quick question, i was looking at an asus eee_pc the other day |
| 16:06.37 | sportman | it ran kde but had a special launch menu |
| 16:06.42 | sportman | any idea what kde launch menu they would use? |
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| 16:08.21 | halphaz_ | here is my cmake.log about kdegraphics |
| 16:08.23 | halphaz_ | http://rafb.net/p/BZtTsY84.html |
| 16:09.27 | halphaz_ | it says that has found the ksane library in local folder |
| 16:09.28 | hruskeks | hi, can I find an example for using KIO? i get 'ASSERT: "d" in kdecore/kernel/kcomponentdata.cpp, line 186' |
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| 16:09.52 | hruskeks | so i guess i'm missing something |
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| 16:10.15 | halphaz_ | moreover google doesn't help me... |
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| 16:32.49 | funkyou | a weird bug: http://img88.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snapshot3zz8.png has someone an idea about this? :) |
| 16:34.11 | annma | how did you install your KDE? |
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| 16:34.15 | annma | KDE3 I gather |
| 16:34.41 | annma | funkyou: fresh install? distro? |
| 16:35.24 | funkyou | annma: arch linux, standard vanilla kde3 packages. i am not the one having this problem, but i want to help |
| 16:35.40 | annma | did you ask the distro then? |
| 16:35.52 | funkyou | yes, no one has an idea so far |
| 16:36.03 | pinotree | which widget style is the current? |
| 16:36.18 | annma | that's a qt style thing |
| 16:36.34 | annma | I don't remember exactly what happens |
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| 16:36.53 | funkyou | ok, thank you for the suggestion... i will tell him that |
| 16:37.07 | annma | pinotree: do you remember? |
| 16:37.10 | pinotree | funkyou: please do: grep -i accel .kde/share/config/kdeglobals |
| 16:37.27 | annma | goes to cook dinner |
| 16:37.27 | pinotree | what does it output? (in pastebin) |
| 16:37.42 | pinotree | ann_cook: a room more? |
| 16:37.57 | ann_cook | a room? |
| 16:38.08 | pinotree | in the dinner :D |
| 16:38.16 | ann_cook | lol |
| 16:38.26 | ann_cook | if you want to die! |
| 16:38.34 | funkyou | pinotree: its not me having this problem, but another arch user... i am just interested in this issue (never seen that before), and want to help.. anyway, also thanks for the suggestions, i will tell him that and come back here when he has replied |
| 16:38.35 | pinotree | eh? o.O |
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| 16:44.38 | halphaz_ | hi |
| 16:44.41 | halphaz_ | http://rafb.net/p/bZmGZh69.html |
| 16:45.03 | halphaz_ | here is the cmake.log of extragear/graphics |
| 16:45.23 | halphaz_ | can someone help me with this error? |
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| 16:53.09 | miwi | hello, have someone a idea here? http://miwi.homeunix.com/kde4.1/audiobug.png |
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| 16:54.46 | SimAtWork | in k3b |
| 16:54.54 | SimAtWork | is it possible to change the position of the OSD ? |
| 16:54.59 | SimAtWork | it always shows up at the top left |
| 16:55.02 | SimAtWork | i really want it in the bottom right |
| 16:55.04 | pinotree | drag it? |
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| 16:58.59 | misha | hi theare! |
| 16:59.14 | pinotree | SimAtWork: ââ |
| 16:59.25 | misha | fuff |
| 16:59.33 | misha | Ð¿Ð¸Ð·Ð´ÐµÑ Ð² обÑем |
| 16:59.36 | misha | ) |
| 16:59.53 | USMarine | no russian ffs |
| 17:00.06 | Skrot- | !ru |
| 17:00.20 | g2g591 | ñáäåþåæbhahéø¶fbláßbáøßïïgøïá߶øñB:LñÓÖÏFÓÖÑ |
| 17:00.27 | misha | no i am from Ukraine |
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| 17:01.19 | misha | your banny wrot |
| 17:01.20 | g2g591 | misha: export LC_ALL="C" in a konsole, then run whatever command gave you that error or whatever. then you can tell us hte english verison of the error message |
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| 17:26.21 | taj | hi... I just upgraded to KDE 4.0.4 from 3.x |
| 17:26.28 | taj | I had mac-style menubars enabled |
| 17:26.44 | taj | so now of course I have no menubars at all. how can I re-enable them? |
| 17:27.21 | root____ | taj: right click on the desktop and hit add panel |
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| 17:30.36 | taj | root____: hm I dont have that in my options list |
| 17:30.51 | taj | root____: there is add widget.. but no panel option in that list |
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| 17:32.10 | root____ | taj: darn, i guess thats didn't make its way back from beta 1 (of 4.1) ... |
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| 17:34.30 | taj | g2g591: heh. um maybe I should be working with b1 instead |
| 17:34.57 | taj | though it would be nice if I could have any sort of menubar back, that would be awesome |
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| 17:37.02 | g2g591 | taj: hold on, i think htere is an faq answering that... |
| 17:37.26 | ganiman | taj? lol |
| 17:37.34 | g2g591 | taj: http://techbase.kde.org/index.php?title=Projects/Plasma/FAQ#My_panel_is_gone.2C_how_do_I_get_it_back.3F |
| 17:37.54 | taj | ganiman: ? |
| 17:38.21 | ganiman | different taj I guess :P |
| 17:38.43 | taj | ganiman: which taj were you expecting? one who has a clue? :) |
| 17:39.13 | taj | g2g591: thats for the panel... this is my menubar, like the per app menubar? |
| 17:39.16 | ganiman | How do I move a widget on the panel? For example, I want to move the Application Launcher from one corner to the other. This was easy with a right-click in KDE3, but KDE4 isnt; so easy, or I'm blind |
| 17:39.57 | g2g591 | taj: oh wait, do you mean kwin? then run kwin --replace |
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| 17:40.25 | g2g591 | ganiman: not so easy yet. you gotta drag a new application launcher to the other corner, then remove the old one. |
| 17:40.41 | ganiman | hmm |
| 17:41.18 | taj | ganiman: I'm using 4.0.4 and the right click menu shows "start move of ..." for everything on the panel |
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| 17:42.04 | g2g591 | taj: that must be some sort of patch made by your distro. nothing like it hre, in 4.1 beta 1 |
| 17:42.28 | taj | g2g591: quite likely. this is fedora 9 |
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| 17:43.10 | ganiman | wow, what a pain in the ass this is to arrange the panel |
| 17:43.27 | ganiman | would have thought something like this would have been a higher priority in development :/ |
| 17:43.33 | g2g591 | taj: bah, why couldn't they simply submit it to a kde dev and get it into vanilla kde |
| 17:43.55 | g2g591 | taj: selfish bastards |
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| 17:44.20 | taj | g2g591: I know some of those guys are kde devs themselves, so it would suprise me if they didnt try |
| 17:44.27 | g2g591 | continues fuming for a few seconds, then gets over it |
| 17:45.11 | ganiman | g2g591: using that method to arrange items in the panel.. well.. crashes the panel |
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| 18:01.20 | oneforall | there a way with konq(file mangaer 3.5.9) you can start at the parent dir and have the picture viewer go threw all the sbdirs. it setup now middle click and opens quickshow |
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| 18:07.35 | TimS | Has the window border changed in the latest revision? |
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| 18:09.47 | annma | TimS: yes |
| 18:09.55 | TimS | I like it =] |
| 18:10.00 | annma | I was cross about it |
| 18:10.10 | annma | because of all the screenshots |
| 18:10.20 | TimS | ? |
| 18:10.36 | TimS | What, that they are out of date? |
| 18:11.16 | annma | well they don't match it |
| 18:11.29 | annma | so for a perfectionist like me I find it bad |
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| 18:11.35 | TimS | Hmm |
| 18:11.37 | annma | I like my docs perfect |
| 18:11.39 | TimS | I see your point |
| 18:11.49 | TimS | But it makes KDE4.1 look different to KDE |
| 18:11.56 | TimS | Ah, I see from a Doc perspective, yes |
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| 18:12.01 | annma | I raised the issue so artists now know that |
| 18:12.15 | annma | this could have come a bit earlier |
| 18:12.29 | PhilRod | pity we never got that screenshot automation working |
| 18:13.06 | annma | yeah |
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| 18:14.58 | MasterShrek | whats a good image viewer program, i dont like kview... |
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| 18:15.21 | pinotree | kuickshow? gwenview? |
| 18:16.23 | MasterShrek | ah gwenview, perfect, thanks |
| 18:16.31 | TimS | digiKam |
| 18:16.46 | TimS | Well, its good for its editing features too. |
| 18:16.59 | TimS | annma: Adding a dashboard widget still crashes plasma :( |
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| 18:17.48 | Rasi | digikam is lovely |
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| 18:18.03 | Rasi | infact the only program i miss from kde3 |
| 18:18.14 | Rasi | tho the kde4 version seems to be in a usable state already |
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| 18:19.07 | annma | a dashboard widget? |
| 18:19.10 | TimS | Yeah |
| 18:19.28 | TimS | It was added a while ago I think, its Mac OSXs widget system |
| 18:19.32 | annma | I don't have a dashboard widget |
| 18:19.37 | annma | ah |
| 18:19.45 | annma | how do you do that? |
| 18:19.50 | TimS | I was just saying, its been broken a while |
| 18:20.02 | Rasi | annma: you can just chose it in the applet installer |
| 18:20.02 | annma | I don't think it ever worked |
| 18:20.08 | TimS | Download a dashboard widget, apples website has loads, then add it like any other widget |
| 18:20.11 | Rasi | annma: it did.. at least for some applets |
| 18:20.13 | TimS | But it fails. |
| 18:20.32 | annma | you need to have some locally |
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| 18:20.42 | Rasi | of course |
| 18:20.44 | annma | TimS: explain me how to do it |
| 18:20.54 | annma | where can I get one |
| 18:21.09 | annma | as I have a talk to prepare |
| 18:21.59 | TimS | http://www.apple.com/downloads/dashboard/ |
| 18:22.15 | TimS | There are hundreds, just click download on the top one or browse for a bit. |
| 18:22.26 | TimS | Once its downloaded, right click the desktop, Add Widget. |
| 18:22.46 | annma | OK I keep it .zip |
| 18:22.51 | TimS | Then go to the install widget from file, pick the dashboard option, and find the .zip you download. |
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| 18:22.56 | TimS | Yeah, keep .zip |
| 18:22.57 | annma | OK |
| 18:23.01 | annma | thanks |
| 18:23.08 | TimS | It may crash plasma :p |
| 18:23.40 | mabu | On my KDE 4 nothing happens when I add dashboard widget |
| 18:23.54 | TimS | Oh, you have to add it to the desktop |
| 18:24.17 | mabu | I don't see it in menu after I add it |
| 18:24.18 | TimS | You have to close the Add Widget, open it again, then find the widget in the list, its called dashboard or something like taht |
| 18:24.25 | mabu | oh |
| 18:24.26 | mabu | thanks |
| 18:24.27 | mabu | will try |
| 18:24.31 | TimS | Bit odd, I guess the list needs a refresh |
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| 18:27.09 | annma | it did not crash here |
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| 18:27.15 | annma | but it did not install either |
| 18:28.01 | annma | oh I have a plasma-applet-dashboard so it installed |
| 18:28.15 | annma | ah OK |
| 18:28.19 | TimS | Crash? |
| 18:28.23 | annma | I thought it crashed on install |
| 18:28.32 | annma | it crashes on use yes |
| 18:28.52 | TimS | I wonder if this has been bug reported |
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| 18:29.12 | annma | I think it won't work for 4.1 |
| 18:29.41 | TimS | well it should be removed then. We cant have a option that is broken |
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| 18:30.10 | annma | we can't test if we don't try |
| 18:30.25 | annma | we'll remove it for final if it doe snto work |
| 18:30.37 | TimS | That what I mean, yeah. |
| 18:30.52 | annma | this is beta, we want new people to help |
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| 18:36.20 | FiNeX | hi! |
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| 18:44.51 | Rasi | FiNeX: Welcome! |
| 18:45.31 | FiNeX | hey Rasi :) |
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| 18:50.29 | DanielW | what was the channel for kde pim? |
| 18:50.33 | DanielW | eh and hi |
| 18:50.44 | SSJ_GZ | DanielW: #kontact |
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| 18:51.58 | benkong2 | hello |
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| 18:52.54 | benkong2 | I put a link to standalone-start.sh in my ~/.kde/Autostart dir for the gcaldaemon. It is chmod +x and owned by me. However it does not seem to be running |
| 18:52.59 | benkong2 | what can I check next? |
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| 18:53.24 | benkong2 | kde 3.5.9 sidux |
| 18:54.43 | rdieter | benkong2: try ~/.kde/env instead |
| 18:55.05 | benkong2 | ok... what's the difference? |
| 18:55.46 | benkong2 | rdieter: I don't have a ~/.kde/env |
| 18:56.11 | rdieter | stuff in ~/.kde/env gets source'd at session start in startkde, Autostart (I think) requires .desktop files (though I could be wrong). |
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| 19:00.32 | Rudd-O | hia guise |
| 19:00.43 | Rudd-O | i need help with a thing |
| 19:01.12 | Rudd-O | my control center keyboard shortcuts module says that the Contextual menu (right-click menu) keyboard shortcut is Shift+F10 |
| 19:01.25 | Rudd-O | (normally it is assigned to the Menu key but we IBM Model M users don't have such a key) |
| 19:01.37 | Rudd-O | now, the context menu doesn't work in any application. Why could that be? |
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| 19:02.00 | Rudd-O | (any KDE app, that is, of course. I haven't confirmed GNOME apps and I don't care either.) |
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| 19:19.36 | mjsilva | i there m8s, what is the best way to install kde4 on fedora 8? |
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| 19:25.19 | annma | mjsilva: ask in fedora channel |
| 19:26.40 | mjsilva | ok tks |
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| 19:29.07 | hruskeks | does anybody know how to use KIO::listDir |
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| 19:30.21 | DanielW | http://arch.der-winti.de/kde/bugs/systraybug.png <- has anyone else a similar problem? |
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| 19:31.26 | g2g591 | DanielW: systemtray a black square with white underlining? yeah, i got that |
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| 19:32.37 | DanielW | g2g591: that is not the only thing. the icons itself have some drawing "artefacts" |
| 19:33.16 | g2g591 | DanielW: yeah, a white square around it. i have |
| 19:33.45 | g2g591 | I can't look at the actual picture- downloading updates on 128k |
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| 19:34.50 | DanielW | g2g591: ok, |
| 19:35.18 | DanielW | and too bad i hoped that the new nvidia driver version will fix the plasma x memory leaking :-( |
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| 19:39.05 | MoDaX | DanielW: do you have effects enabled? |
| 19:39.49 | MoDaX | disabling effects improves situation |
| 19:40.13 | DanielW | MoDaX: yes, but that memory thing i don't think it has something to do with that. (as kwin is doing the effects). i think it is in the window switching applet of plasma |
| 19:40.29 | g2g591 | DanielW: I have an nvidia (onboard type thing, 6150 le) and I've been running all day so far, and only 28M memory used by X and only 11M used by plasma. yes I am using the nonfree drivers |
| 19:40.47 | DanielW | g2g591: and svn trunk? |
| 19:40.53 | g2g591 | DanielW: yes. |
| 19:41.04 | g2g591 | total time up so far . 4 hours 11 min |
| 19:41.41 | DanielW | g2g591: x is now using 231 mb . and showing with xrestop 72 MB of it for plasma pixmap memory |
| 19:41.49 | g2g591 | im using 169.12 |
| 19:42.12 | g2g591 | DanielW: ew. what version of nvidia-drivers are you using? |
| 19:42.18 | DanielW | i used that one too, with the same problem. today i updated, but still the same |
| 19:42.28 | g2g591 | DanielW: hmm |
| 19:42.45 | g2g591 | how long has your computer been on ? |
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| 19:42.56 | MoDaX | DanielW: I have been experiencing such memleaks (800MB+) with opensource radeon driver too |
| 19:43.06 | DanielW | the memory usage goes up a few kilobyte on every focus switch |
| 19:43.11 | DanielW | MoDaX: in kwin? |
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| 19:43.55 | MoDaX | DanielW: apparently no, plasma |
| 19:44.11 | DanielW | http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=162138 |
| 19:44.11 | MoDaX | DanielW: I had no clue about xrestop before ;) |
| 19:44.49 | DanielW | so the memory usage of plasma and not the memory usage in x (from plasma) |
| 19:44.54 | annma | no problem here with my nvidia |
| 19:46.03 | DanielW | i don't understand it. maybe some settings or some version of a library makes it happen |
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| 19:48.45 | MoDaX | on my box with radeon, only 50MB of pixmaps used in total. but X itself uses 500MB |
| 19:51.11 | Kebianizao | Hello |
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| 19:51.23 | Kebianizao | MoDaX: compositing? video card? |
| 19:51.27 | Kebianizao | (sory if I was late) |
| 19:51.42 | MoDaX | yes, nvidia |
| 19:51.47 | MoDaX | and radeon |
| 19:52.02 | Kebianizao | radeon free/privative driver? |
| 19:52.31 | MoDaX | opensource |
| 19:52.41 | MoDaX | of course |
| 19:52.43 | Kebianizao | how do you find their performance? I'm on intel and I find it a little slow, lack of responsivity to input events |
| 19:52.54 | DanielW | the plasma pixmap leak only seems to affect nvidia users (but not all of them...) |
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| 19:53.37 | DanielW | the other thing is, kde should default to indirect rendering on nvidia cards. it makes composing a lot faster |
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| 19:54.04 | Kebianizao | DanielW: what about intel cards? any tips? |
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| 19:54.19 | MoDaX | Kebianizao: try xrestop |
| 19:54.53 | Kebianizao | MoDaX: heh, I wanted to know your experience, sorry for the misleading ;) |
| 19:54.56 | DanielW | Kebianizao: sorry, will try to install kde 4 on my eee pc next week ( if i find the time). it has intel graphics |
| 19:55.31 | Kebianizao | DanielW: ok, already running here and that's my opinion so far, not bad, but slow compared to kde3 for example |
| 19:55.43 | Kebianizao | and yes I know it's beta and there are lots of room for improvement |
| 19:56.24 | Kebianizao | BTW, is it possible to have a system resources usage plasmoid? I'm searching for a gkrellm substitute, which kde4 will definately have, I'm sure |
| 19:56.31 | DanielW | yeah i hope a lot of small and bigger bugs gets fixed until release |
| 19:58.00 | DanielW | Kebianizao: maybe the appelt called "system-monitor" in playground? (haven't tried it) |
| 19:58.24 | DanielW | applet |
| 19:58.32 | Kebianizao | looks for it |
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| 20:05.10 | GNUtoo | hello, does kde-4.1 works well with selinux(kdm makes roles transition,the rest of kde works well with the refpolicy) ? |
| 20:05.38 | annma | what is selinux? |
| 20:06.03 | g2g591 | selinux is a security thing... its optional, |
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| 20:06.30 | GNUtoo | annma, it's even integrated and used by default in fedora...so it's not always optional... |
| 20:06.31 | Drantin | 'security enhanced' linux |
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| 20:06.52 | g2g591 | GNUtoo: i think the best thing to do is just try it, I don't know of anyone who has experiance with 4.1 beta 1 and selinux |
| 20:06.56 | GNUtoo | annma, basicaly the applications are profiles and can't go out of their roles... |
| 20:07.01 | annma | nice |
| 20:08.04 | GNUtoo | g2g591, ok |
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| 20:09.06 | g2g591 | 4.1 has been pretty stable here. but, debian patched it to death and instability in their experimental branch |
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| 20:12.06 | Kebianizao | bye guys, thanks |
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| 20:14.47 | GNUtoo | by the way how do i put no password to kwallet?(because there is an acl for apps accessing it anyway...so i don't need a password) |
| 20:15.22 | GNUtoo | by acl i mean a list of apps allowed to use it |
| 20:15.30 | g2g591 | just leaving it blank and pusing next worked fine for me (it was a while ago too) |
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| 20:16.22 | GNUtoo | g2g591, thanks it worked... |
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| 20:17.21 | sandsmark | I must say, entering wrong information about what the server supports, enabling automatic updating of the mailbox, and trying to repair it is not very easy in kmail =/ |
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| 20:18.50 | thiago_home | GNUtoo: and app names are VERY easily spoofed |
| 20:18.56 | thiago_home | no password = no security |
| 20:19.00 | GNUtoo | thiago_home, ok |
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| 20:21.22 | zcat | hmm, seems kde4 dolphin and konqueror have a problem with scripts in servicemenus of the form "Exec=$HOME/.kde/whatever/foo.sh". The script runs fine, but then follows a complaint that it couldn't be found. |
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| 20:25.26 | zcat | (absolute path is OK, but yuck) |
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| 20:27.44 | zcat | duh - looks like "~/foo" is what it'll take without complaint. |
| 20:27.56 | zcat | 3.5 was ok with $HOME/ |
| 20:28.02 | xenol | i want to ask, how can i resize my kopete chat window to default size? |
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| 20:30.03 | DanielW | xenol: it is in the kopete rc file in ~/.kde(4)/share/config/ dir |
| 20:30.18 | isleshocky78 | Is there a way to do Mouse Shortcuts? Such as the pushing mouse buttons Toggles the Expose effect? |
| 20:30.20 | DanielW | quit kopete, remove the size lines and start kopete again |
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| 20:30.45 | xenol | DanielW: thx |
| 20:30.50 | q4a | hi all |
| 20:31.26 | q4a | i have installed kde 4.00.80 (KDE 4.0.80 >= (KDE 4.1 Beta1) - is it the lastest version kde? |
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| 20:32.45 | DanielW | isleshocky78: i think all you can do is to set the effect on moving your mouse to the boarders or the edges of the screen. so top left edge starts that effect |
| 20:32.46 | isleshocky78 | Yeah, I've seen that. |
| 20:33.12 | isleshocky78 | DanielW: But I was just curious there was some where to edit "Mouse Shortcuts". Can't find anything on google. |
| 20:33.46 | zcat | (spoke too soon. guess absolute paths are the only option for ServiceMenus for now.) |
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| 20:40.45 | miki | q4a, 4.00.81 |
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| 20:45.30 | q4a | thx, miki |
| 20:46.10 | q4a | i think, i'll stay at 4.00.80 now =) |
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| 20:50.02 | olle-wp | hello kde people! |
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| 20:50.25 | olle-wp | i've added a new feature to kwin and came to ask if it's appropriate enough for a patch |
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| 20:50.45 | PhilRod | olle-wp: cool! |
| 20:50.55 | olle-wp | PhilRod: i doubt that |
| 20:51.03 | PhilRod | the best place to find developers is #kde-devel |
| 20:51.18 | olle-wp | PhilRod: oh ok. didn't know that |
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| 20:51.24 | boom1992 | olle-wp: or kwin@kde.org |
| 20:51.32 | boom1992 | there are only spare people working on kwin |
| 20:51.39 | boom1992 | that are Seli and rivo and some other guys... |
| 20:52.06 | olle-wp | anyway, i've made so that, when alt-tabbing, windows asking attention is marked with red color in the list of windows |
| 20:52.20 | olle-wp | thanks boom1992, thanks PhilRod |
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| 20:52.48 | olle-wp | boom1992: you're not a real 1992, are you? |
| 20:53.05 | boom1992 | olle-wp: lol :D nope I was born in 1992 |
| 20:53.09 | boom1992 | ;) |
| 20:53.27 | boom1992 | olle-wp: why? |
| 20:53.27 | boom1992 | :P |
| 20:53.31 | olle-wp | boom1992: wtf, contradictions ftw |
| 20:53.56 | boom1992 | olle-wp: :P |
| 20:54.44 | olle-wp | boom1992: lol, what i meant what if you were really born 1992, and i asked out of plain curiosity |
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| 20:55.22 | boom1992 | olle-wp: lol ok :D |
| 20:55.30 | litb | i was impresed to see composite working inside the virtual machine actually |
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| 20:55.41 | litb | with all those nifty grifty transparency and stuff |
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| 20:55.42 | boom1992 | you know: in my age you're not that good in english ;) |
| 20:55.42 | boom1992 | :P |
| 20:55.50 | litb | boom1992: oh |
| 20:55.54 | boom1992 | litb: lol VMWare? |
| 20:55.56 | litb | how old r u? |
| 20:56.02 | litb | boom1992: nono, it was vbox |
| 20:56.06 | boom1992 | litb: 15 |
| 20:56.10 | boom1992 | oha |
| 20:56.16 | boom1992 | I have no compositing there :/ |
| 20:56.42 | DanielW | you can be bad even at my age in english (:-() |
| 20:56.45 | litb | boom1992: you have to enable XRender in kwin, not OpenGL |
| 20:56.50 | litb | and then you have composite :) |
| 20:57.02 | litb | tho it looks like some features are turned off then |
| 20:57.05 | boom1992 | litb: ok cool :) |
| 20:57.10 | litb | like shadows |
| 20:57.13 | boom1992 | DanielW: how old are u? |
| 20:57.20 | olle-wp | boom1992: cool. and yes, you're probably better than me in english, since my english sucks pretty hard |
| 20:57.20 | DanielW | 26 |
| 20:57.23 | boom1992 | litb: mmh I need to think about it |
| 20:57.25 | litb | but many things are working nicely anyway |
| 20:57.27 | boom1992 | olle-wp: :D |
| 20:57.31 | boom1992 | DanielW: cool :) |
| 20:57.40 | boom1992 | litb: cool I will try that soon :) |
| 20:57.51 | litb | i'm 22 :p teh old guy |
| 20:58.01 | boom1992 | :D |
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| 20:58.48 | Heiki | back when I was 15, there was no KDE, no IRC, no Linux ... (: |
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| 20:59.26 | boom1992 | Heiki: :/ |
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| 20:59.54 | Heiki | and I probably hadnât even heard of the internet at that time |
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| 21:01.01 | boom1992 | :( |
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| 21:06.35 | blauzahl_ | Unable to start the cookie handler service. <----what should i do to fix this? |
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| 21:07.35 | blauzahl_ | or is this a bug....? |
| 21:07.52 | blauzahl_ | as they certainly look enabled from the settings menu |
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| 21:08.40 | olle-wp | omg, let me quote the topic: "Don't delete ~/.kde" |
| 21:08.43 | olle-wp | lol! :D |
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| 21:12.53 | VisezTrance | hi there, i've been using kmail for a couple of years, having the same profile on 3 machines during this time, so it's safe to say, everything was nice and well, but yesterday i received an email, wich i forwarded my self from work, and kmail received it but i cant read it delete it or anything else. its just there .. any ideas.. would be pretty cool |
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| 21:14.07 | VisezTrance | or better still, how can I file a bug report, but not include the emails contents(very important) |
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| 21:17.28 | VisezTrance | such is life i guess, i'll constantly have one unread email for the rest of my kmail user days |
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| 21:48.33 | ubuntu__ | what is the name of the official kde calculator? |
| 21:48.56 | GNU\colossus | kcalc, I guess |
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| 22:02.00 | shevy | does dolphin understand service menus or something similar? |
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| 22:19.39 | scott__ | i cant seem to get my virtual desktops to go above 2 i change it to 4 but it stays 2 any ideas? |
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| 22:20.41 | spm_Draget | Hey everyone. So, is it a rumor that KDE 4 uses less memory than KDE3? It makes sense that with the consolidation of various subsystems and qt4 some things are reduced. but the standard composing kills this atvantage again. At least according to http://www.jarzebski.pl/read/kde-3-5-vs-4-0-round-two.so tho it is a bit old. |
| 22:21.35 | spm_Draget | Mesuring memory usage is something that can be easily done wrong. So I wonder if this memory-efficency news about kde4 are based on false informations and easily spread. |
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| 22:22.40 | g2g591 | spm_Draget: composting isn't standard/activated by default though |
| 22:23.39 | spm_Draget | Oh, I see. Still wondering what the memory usage rumors are all about :P |
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| 22:30.51 | eljefe | I have KDE installed on a P3 laptop, pretty minimal so far. What do I need to allow the screen to be rotated or flipped upside down? (Debian Etch) |
| 22:32.13 | spm_Draget | eljefe : Not sure if this is the best way, but if you enable the RandR option for you xorg you can use the tool xrandr to rotate your screen |
| 22:32.39 | eljefe | thanks, I'll start there |
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| 22:46.04 | Conscience | Can anyone help me?in fedora 8 i was booting the system with an external device, when something happen but i dont give a damm, but now i cant get in on external device, i am now with fedora 9, can anyone help me how i can repair the device? |
| 22:46.53 | pinotree | #fedora please |
| 22:47.03 | pinotree | or ##linux as well |
| 22:47.17 | tzd | my "Konversation" kind of jumps every time someone writes a line and occasionally when many people write it's lagging. I haven't found any smooth line change settings, anyone with any ideas on what might be wrong please? |
| 22:47.20 | Conscience | i have try on fedora but no one anwse |
| 22:47.29 | Conscience | *anwser |
| 22:48.06 | Goofankle | Why am I running a gnome desktop 'behind' my KDE desktop? That may sound weird, but when I goto my 3D cube, my desktop gets a green tint and can see some gnome icons( http://i27.tinypic.com/24zf38o.jpg ). I don't have gnome installed, but when I goto the KDE System Guard and filter 'gnome', there is a process called 'gnome-vfs-deamo', and I don't know what that is and can't kill it. |
| 22:48.26 | fred | add an 'n' on the end |
| 22:48.27 | Goofankle | How can I get rid of that gnome desktop? I'm using opensuse 10.3, and KDE 3, btw |
| 22:48.47 | Conscience | that hapenns also with me in ubuntu |
| 22:49.02 | Conscience | i think i gone install again kde4 |
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| 22:50.04 | Goofankle | Have you ever fixed it? It doesn't show up in KDE 4 for me, but I'm using KDE 3 because I like it better right now. |
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| 22:55.09 | kdepepo | Goofankle, are you running pidgin |
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| 22:55.45 | Goofankle | Yep, I'm using pidgin. That isn't a problem, is it? |
| 22:55.56 | kdepepo | Goofankle, this is a gnome app, so it drags the crap with it. |
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| 22:56.51 | kdepepo | Goofankle, use only kde apps, and gnome wont run :) |
| 22:56.54 | Goofankle | Oh, I see. So I suppose theres not way to get rid of it if I want to keep using pidgin then? |
| 22:57.01 | Goofankle | not a way* |
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| 22:58.36 | tzd | im using pidgin on kubuntu but i dont have that problem i think |
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| 23:03.10 | Goofankle | hm, that's weird |
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| 23:06.10 | nondysjunction | what's a good id3 tagging batch program? |
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| 23:11.51 | geremia | prova |
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| 23:20.53 | jo-fluff | Does anyone know of a package that lets you see and alter a symlink's target from the links property menu in kde? |
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| 23:23.23 | g2g591 | you could just use readlink to see the symlink's target, and simply remove (using rm) then remake the link (with ln -s target location/of/link) |
| 23:23.33 | g2g591 | jo-fluff: |
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| 23:26.15 | jo-fluff | ok, thanks |
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| 23:26.52 | g2g591 | jo-fluff: this is from konsole or xterm of course |
| 23:27.18 | jo-fluff | yes I figured that. |
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| 23:33.37 | jo-fluff | thank you for you help bye |
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| 23:34.30 | ethan961 | downloading the kde 4.1 beta opensuse cd atm, hope it is good |
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