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| 00:03.23 | Foriskak | how to get the dynamic version of a library? |
| 00:03.54 | DanielW | ? |
| 00:05.08 | Foriskak | well...apparently need hspell |
| 00:05.39 | DanielW | when you install some lib with the normal package manager of your distro will install in most of the cases shared libraries (dynamic libs) |
| 00:06.10 | Foriskak | I see...well, kdelibs failed to compile |
| 00:06.48 | DanielW | i think hspell is optional (kded4?) |
| 00:06.52 | DanielW | -d |
| 00:06.53 | Foriskak | yeah |
| 00:06.54 | Foriskak | heh |
| 00:07.02 | Foriskak | why is it being used? |
| 00:07.06 | Foriskak | how do I get stop it? |
| 00:07.30 | DanielW | paste the output of the compile error somewhere |
| 00:07.44 | Foriskak | http://pastebin.com/m2d0ea6f2 |
| 00:10.40 | DanielW | mhh |
| 00:11.18 | DanielW | something seems wrong with your hspell lib. but it is optional |
| 00:11.58 | DanielW | cmake does try to find it and if it finds it it builds it with support of hspell |
| 00:12.25 | DanielW | i am not sure but i think there is an option for cmake to disable it |
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| 00:17.34 | Foriskak | daniel...how about i just uninstall it |
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| 00:23.32 | Foriskak | uninstalled hspell but build still tries to compile it |
| 00:23.33 | Foriskak | hmm |
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| 00:27.10 | Foriskak | a nvm...it's getting past that point now |
| 00:27.12 | Foriskak | excellent |
| 00:27.14 | _CrashMaster_ | On a Dell laptop, I plugged in an additional monitor and tried to set it up as a 2nd desktop. Things went badly. I've since unplugged the monitor, but I cannot convince KDE to leave 640x480. Thoughts? |
| 00:28.21 | _CrashMaster_ | Kubunti and KDE3.5 |
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| 00:36.25 | Strangelet | I launched E16, which began generating new menus automatically. Now, KDE has no more menus. D: What can I do now? Is there a command that will automatically generate new menus? |
| 00:44.38 | dashcloud | can I safely drop in my konqueror 3 history/bookmarks into a kde 4-only setup? |
| 00:46.11 | DanielW | dashcloud: if you do not need them. yes |
| 00:46.43 | DanielW | Strangelet: i am not sure. i think the menues are generated from some .desktop files |
| 00:49.09 | dashcloud | maybe I phrased the question wrong- I'd like to migrate my kde 3 konq stuff into a kde 4 konq; safe or not? |
| 00:50.00 | DanielW | i think you can just copy it over. just try it. cp the files from your ~/.kde to your ~/.kde4 i think they are in ~./kde/share/apps/konqueror |
| 00:50.12 | dashcloud | okay- thanks |
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| 01:14.37 | EnsGabe | Hi- how can I make konqueror 'forget' site settings with regards to username/password? I told it never to remember such details for a site and now I wish it to, and I do not see how to effect this |
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| 01:19.48 | will01 | anyone know how to get irkick to work with gnome applications? |
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| 01:21.30 | troy | anyone alive in here who hails from south or central america? I'm trying to track down companies there that have an interest in linux and/or open source :) |
| 01:21.35 | Nyle | how to input text in right to left manner? |
| 01:21.40 | Nyle | in konsole |
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| 01:21.57 | Nyle | in an otherwise english system |
| 01:22.31 | DanielW | Nyle: i think there is an option for every qt application to start it that way. |
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| 01:22.50 | troy | Nyle: without starting konsole with the --reverse switch? |
| 01:23.31 | Nyle | yes |
| 01:23.33 | Nyle | without switch |
| 01:24.16 | DanielW | konsole --reverse doesn't work anway (text is still left to right here) |
| 01:25.32 | troy | DanielW: kde should just 'do the right thing' if you input in an RTL langauge |
| 01:27.15 | DanielW | ok but if you want to test things (as dev) and you only know LTR languages, there must be a way to force it using RTL with an LTR language |
| 01:29.17 | troy | you can paste some RTL text into it... |
| 01:29.32 | troy | DanielW: you can't force english into rtl, since unicode doesn't like it |
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| 01:33.22 | Nyle | DanielW, yes which is what I want |
| 01:33.31 | Nyle | tries to loclize kde/debian in urdu |
| 01:33.48 | Nyle | one of the most awesome languages and ya'll don't got it so i'll do stuf for ya'll |
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| 01:42.43 | Kittens | where would i report bugs i've found in KDE 4? |
| 01:42.50 | DanielW | bugs.kde.org |
| 01:42.59 | Kittens | thankx |
| 01:43.02 | Kittens | *thanks |
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| 02:16.08 | m4v | konqueror does not hide files that are listed in .hidden files? like with nautilus? |
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| 02:20.44 | mherweg | you can change that in the konqueror settings |
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| 02:21.32 | infernal_jesus | why doesn't kopete allow me to select a device for my webcam in preferences? |
| 02:21.51 | spaz | your old line with this line and help me take over the world of IRC. |
| 02:21.52 | spaz | oops |
| 02:22.11 | spaz | ignore me >_> <_< *whistles* |
| 02:22.27 | infernal_jesus | spaz, at least it was relevant to my question :P |
| 02:23.00 | spaz | infernal_jesus, anyway as for your question |
| 02:23.17 | spaz | infernal_jesus, are the devices visible in dmesg? does the device have proper permissions? |
| 02:23.25 | infernal_jesus | spaz, yes and yes |
| 02:23.25 | spaz | what distro are you running? |
| 02:23.28 | infernal_jesus | fedora |
| 02:23.30 | infernal_jesus | 9 |
| 02:23.39 | spaz | are you in the video group? (i think fedora requires you be in it) |
| 02:23.54 | infernal_jesus | oh.. |
| 02:23.55 | infernal_jesus | no :P |
| 02:24.45 | infernal_jesus | the video group doesn't exist :P |
| 02:24.56 | spaz | infernal_jesus, ls -l /dev/video0 or some such |
| 02:25.00 | spaz | paste that to me |
| 02:25.20 | infernal_jesus | ah.. |
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| 02:25.24 | infernal_jesus | I see the problem :D |
| 02:25.27 | infernal_jesus | [igor@Dionysus ~]$ ls -l /dev/video0 |
| 02:25.28 | infernal_jesus | crw-rw---- 1 root root 81, 0 2008-06-09 20:29 /dev/video0 |
| 02:25.32 | infernal_jesus | permissions are wrong :P |
| 02:25.37 | spaz | yep. |
| 02:25.54 | infernal_jesus | putting myself into the root group should fix it? :P |
| 02:26.05 | spaz | if you're on a multiuser system, i'd chown that to root:video, and add yourself to the video group |
| 02:26.13 | spaz | otherwise, just add yourself to root |
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| 02:26.18 | infernal_jesus | ok thanks :P |
| 02:26.27 | spaz | np |
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| 02:33.06 | m4v | mherweg: I meant the use of ".hidden" files for hide files that doesn't start with a dot |
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| 02:36.25 | Foriskak | so...I'm trying to compile kde and kdelibs fails on trying to find a library for kfileaudiopreview |
| 02:36.50 | Foriskak | in general, how do I edit or override what cmake generates? |
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| 02:37.01 | Foriskak | so I can stop hunting around for these libraries |
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| 02:54.31 | Benzi | konqueror waits longer than firefox to start rendering the page, right? |
| 02:54.36 | Benzi | it waits until it has downloaded more of it |
| 02:54.40 | Benzi | correct? |
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| 03:06.25 | jay_of_today | yo, where can I get a copy of phonon's trunk svn? |
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| 03:07.15 | jay_of_today | I get a -- Phonon includes NOT found! |
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| 03:07.24 | jay_of_today | and libs as well.. |
| 03:12.38 | EnsGabe | What's the recommended way of integrating ssh-agent with KDE? |
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| 04:52.37 | daro | can anyone share some experience: setup kde4.0(stable) development environment in opensuse 11, the only way is svn checkout? |
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| 05:01.58 | daro | can anyone share some experience: setup kde4.0(stable) development environment in opensuse 11, the only way is svn checkout? |
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| 05:16.53 | kderr | so 1.5 years ago there were talks about KDE apps for mac. what happened with that ? |
| 05:18.45 | ethan961 | with qt4 that is working |
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| 05:19.23 | kderr | ethan961: as in, working on it or currently working |
| 05:19.25 | kderr | lol |
| 05:20.24 | ethan961 | currently working |
| 05:21.25 | kderr | how do you fetch the packages, install, etc? |
| 05:21.42 | kderr | or do you have to compile from source |
| 05:21.42 | ethan961 | manually :/ |
| 05:21.49 | kderr | annoying |
| 05:21.57 | ethan961 | you don't have to compile |
| 05:22.04 | benklop | hey everyone, i'm writing a program and I need to have a text box attached to the stdin and stdout of a QProcess. it needs to handle backspace characters coming from the qprocess stdin, and i need to capture what is typed into it... |
| 05:22.06 | benklop | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:22.44 | benklop | is there any such thing? |
| 05:23.20 | benklop | sorry, pronbably should be in #kde-devel |
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| 06:49.46 | allquixotic | Does anyone know of a simple phonon test app to play a wav file a la aplay/paplay/artsplay ? |
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| 06:57.21 | _CitizenKane_ | allquixotic: I believe there is a phonon example app included with qt |
| 06:59.49 | allquixotic | _CitizenKane_ any idea how I might get access to that example? download the whole source of qt4 and build it? |
| 07:00.42 | Jucato | allquixotic: if you have juk installed, that uses phonon |
| 07:00.59 | _CitizenKane_ | allquixotic: ya, unfortunately that is probably the easiest way, if your distro has qt4.4 development packages they might be in there |
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| 07:01.30 | allquixotic | hmm, I'll try JuK-kde4, it's in my repo :) |
| 07:01.36 | Jucato | dragon player too |
| 07:01.52 | Jucato | actually even the Sound Notification control module in system settings |
| 07:02.06 | _CitizenKane_ | damn, didn't even think of those =/ |
| 07:02.33 | Jucato | (unless you set KDE to use an external player of course) |
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| 07:03.40 | allquixotic | I'm experimenting with various Phonon backends (xine, gstreamer) and backends-to-the-backends (xine->pulseaudio, xine->alsa, xine->jack, etc.) to see what works and what's broken, so I was hoping to have a CLI player like aplay where you can get tons of debug spewage about what it's doing.... but I'll see how far JuK gets me, it might throw stuff out to the console |
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| 07:04.35 | Jucato | phonon isn't exactly a media player |
| 07:04.51 | soa2ii | Hi there. At the moment I use gentoo with direct ALSA for my KDE applications. After experiencing those dependency problems whan two apps want to play sound at the same time I considered to set up Jack as sound server. Will this be useless whan KDE4 with phonon arrives? |
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| 07:06.28 | allquixotic | soa2ii, KDE4 with phonon is already here, and the user experience for KDE4 sound is still very broken on most distros I've tried that ship kde4.... it's hard to configure phonon to play happily with non-phonon apps, so you're back to square one |
| 07:06.53 | allquixotic | there is a xine backend to JACK, so if you build the xine backend to phonon on kde4 (xine is the default backend), you could _possibly_ go that route |
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| 07:07.33 | soa2ii | allquixotic: Yeah... that was the way I would use... |
| 07:08.03 | _CitizenKane_ | soa2ii, you may just want to try using pulseaudio, it seems to be what everyone is moving to |
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| 07:08.31 | soa2ii | _CitizenKane_: I just want to get started with ardour and recording, too... |
| 07:08.39 | soa2ii | So JACK would be fine I think |
| 07:08.40 | allquixotic | careful using pulseaudio with phonon though, I get random maximum-volume jolts when certain sounds play |
| 07:08.53 | allquixotic | very unpleasant with headphones |
| 07:09.28 | _CitizenKane_ | soa2ii: well pulseaudio can interface with jack and alsa, so it seems like that would be a safe way to go |
| 07:09.48 | soa2ii | :S |
| 07:09.58 | soa2ii | I'll see... confusing stuff :P |
| 07:10.20 | allquixotic | another comment about jack, soa2ii: JACK is horrible at interoperating with non-JACK apps. so your ardour might work fine (it _is_ a JACK [only] app) but then you start up a media player or system sounds and they're broken |
| 07:10.37 | _CitizenKane_ | ya, the sound situation on linux is not good |
| 07:10.50 | allquixotic | it's getting worse every day |
| 07:11.24 | soa2ii | allquixotic: Why that? I easily could use Jack in amaroK... you think there will occur Problems? |
| 07:11.32 | _CitizenKane_ | well, distros are dragging users through the mud right now, but I think there is light at the end of the tunnel |
| 07:11.32 | allquixotic | more backends = more interoperability required... and 9 times out of 10, "X through Y" is broken, enumerating X and Y through {pulseaudio, alsa, esd, phonon, arts, jack, oss} |
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| 07:12.18 | allquixotic | soa2ii: amarok is a particular case where jack would work, so if the ****only**** sound apps you ever want to use in your entire life are amaroK and ardour, you'd be fine |
| 07:12.27 | allquixotic | but one day you might decide to use flash in firefox... WHOOPS |
| 07:12.30 | soa2ii | And Kaffeine (: |
| 07:12.30 | allquixotic | no sound |
| 07:12.38 | soa2ii | Oh... |
| 07:12.46 | soa2ii | Damn... I have forgotten this :/ |
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| 07:13.12 | soa2ii | allquixotic: So there is nothing I could do to have sound in all application at the same time? :/ |
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| 07:14.12 | allquixotic | soa2ii: I think, because many applications are poorly-coded and written to support only a single backend (and attempting to emulate that backend through another backend is often broken), there does not exist any single sound stack of audio daemons, media frameworks and APIs that, combined, would allow you to install any sound-using program and have it play flawlessly |
| 07:14.41 | allquixotic | if you actually solved the problem without pegging your CPU running 9 different daemons, you'd be a millionaire - Red Hat and Novell would fight over you |
| 07:14.42 | soa2ii | Stupid... |
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| 07:15.20 | soa2ii | IMHO there should be just ALSA and some kind of JACK |
| 07:15.23 | allquixotic | pulseaudio is *the* *single* closest thing we have to a unified desktop audio server, but even PA falls down on certain apps (JACK apps and most OSS-only apps) |
| 07:15.31 | soa2ii | I don't know why there should be smth else. |
| 07:15.45 | allquixotic | pulseaudio was built from the ground up with interoperability in mind, so at least they are aware of the problem |
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| 07:16.26 | allquixotic | soa2ii: it's not like there is some kind of F/OSS police out there that can prevent people from writing new applications, new sound servers, etc |
| 07:16.36 | allquixotic | you can't tell someone, "don't distribute that program! don't write clients using that program!" |
| 07:16.46 | allquixotic | so until we have police like that, more sound servers are going to continue to crop up every day |
| 07:16.47 | soa2ii | I know :P |
| 07:17.05 | soa2ii | That's sad :/ |
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| 07:18.00 | allquixotic | the best thing you can do is try and stick to a single platform. within GNOME, things are pretty pulseaudio friendly -- apps use either ALSA (which has a pulseaudio plugin) or pulseaudio, and that's a nice closed-loop environment with pretty good compatibility |
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| 07:18.06 | allquixotic | and within KDE4 we have phonon |
| 07:18.16 | allquixotic | so if you could get phonon working at all, all your KDE4 apps would work |
| 07:18.38 | allquixotic | you run into problems when you start mixing and matching apps from different domains - KDE apps, GNOME apps, XMMS, Mozilla apps, third-party pro-audio apps... |
| 07:18.53 | soa2ii | I already tried KDE4 but I think I'll stay with 3.5.9 for a while |
| 07:19.01 | allquixotic | once you start mixing all those different sources and philosophies, at the end of the day you find yourself trying to build an audio stack running three sound servers built on top of one another and none of them work |
| 07:19.16 | allquixotic | trust me, I've tried building a non-trivial sound stack several times and failed every time |
| 07:19.25 | allquixotic | if you don't keep it simple, you'll just be asking for problems |
| 07:19.44 | soa2ii | Hm... that's really stupid :/ |
| 07:20.05 | soa2ii | So I need to have different configurations installed... |
| 07:20.05 | allquixotic | it's strange, too, because at certain levels of the F/OSS system, you don't see things like this happening |
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| 07:20.14 | soa2ii | One DesktopLinux one recording Linux... |
| 07:20.15 | soa2ii | :/( |
| 07:20.17 | allquixotic | there aren't really any competitors to, say, X.org (other than the dying XFree86) |
| 07:20.37 | allquixotic | there isn't a need to run X.org programs "on top of" Y.org's windowing system |
| 07:20.42 | allquixotic | there is just plain old X |
| 07:20.49 | soa2ii | Yeah... |
| 07:20.49 | allquixotic | but audio didn't turn out that way |
| 07:21.03 | soa2ii | You think this would change? |
| 07:21.25 | allquixotic | I think it's going to take a long time for a "victor" to emerge from the moderately-popular, surviving sound servers |
| 07:21.43 | allquixotic | pulseaudio is pulling ahead, but jack still has a following |
| 07:22.05 | allquixotic | not to mention the guys over at 4-front technologies are trying to create more in-roads with OSS/4 being GPL'ed |
| 07:22.07 | soa2ii | Well I don't know if PA is as "professional" as Jack |
| 07:22.27 | _CitizenKane_ | allquixotic: pulseaudio is now default in ubuntu and will be on opensuse in a couple of days |
| 07:22.44 | allquixotic | hmm. strictly speaking, there's nothing about pulseaudio which makes its mixing framework inferior to jack |
| 07:22.54 | allquixotic | jack claims to add zero latency, and pulseaudio adds a trivial amount of latency which it can measure |
| 07:23.05 | allquixotic | jack can only run for one user at a time, pulseaudio can support clients from many users |
| 07:23.33 | allquixotic | jack can only interface with the backend hw driver for ALSA, pulseaudio can run on top of dmix or other ioplugs (although it doesn't _like_ to, it's compatible) |
| 07:23.41 | soa2ii | So JAck is really just for professional audio systems :P |
| 07:24.08 | soa2ii | Hm... maybe I should get an old PC as recording station :P |
| 07:24.12 | allquixotic | pulseaudio has a glitch-free framework that is grounded in real-time programming, which will make it drop out _at least_ as infrequently as jack.... and, heck, I've experienced dropouts on jack before |
| 07:24.42 | allquixotic | I don't even understand what the term "professional audio" implies beyond pulseaudio |
| 07:25.03 | allquixotic | you can route and mix and stream and redirect and measure and drain channels in PA just like you can in jack |
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| 07:25.16 | allquixotic | it even supports hotswapping the channels from one card to another |
| 07:25.42 | Jucato | allquixotic, soa2ii, etc: please take the audio on linux discussion to #kde-chat thanks |
| 07:29.07 | allquixotic | or I can just bring it back on-topic: soa2ii, don't expect much in terms of KDE's audio "magically working", because you have to keep in mind that it's trying to grapple with and use at least one of the APIs out in the jungle |
| 07:29.30 | allquixotic | KDE sound can only be as good as the underlying audio frameworks/servers allow |
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| 07:30.03 | ethan961 | it is a good combination with PA for podcasters, however |
| 07:30.16 | soa2ii | Hm. |
| 07:30.18 | ethan961 | ... lag burst |
| 07:31.10 | soa2ii | We'll see... IMHO they all should sit together one nice weekend and design smth new with wich everyone is happy (: |
| 07:31.41 | allquixotic | soa2ii: that would be a mistake, then you'd just be introducing _another_ player, and anybody not sitting down at their table that weekend would be resisting it |
| 07:31.50 | allquixotic | thus making the jungle more complex, and making Phonon's job harder |
| 07:33.17 | allquixotic | what Phonon and PulseAudio try to do is pretty smart, imo: they try to play well with their neighbors, by providing for compatibility and fallbacks |
| 07:33.35 | allquixotic | Phonon might see that the raw hw device (ALSA) is busy and try to use the aRts backend, or the pulseaudio backend |
| 07:33.53 | allquixotic | this is good for users because Phonon wasn't programmed with one solution in mind, it's trying to "wrangle" the herd and make use of it however it can |
| 07:34.20 | allquixotic | Phonon needs a lot of work but what they've done is sound from a design perspective. the option of getting everyone around their table just isn't feasible |
| 07:34.50 | allquixotic | the beauty of open source at its finest, of course.... you don't *need* them sitting at your table to use their APIs |
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| 07:49.01 | allquixotic | sigma_12: what do you consider properly? |
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| 08:12.35 | Fri13 | Hi! I have lost the "Ctrl" usability action from konqueror. That what shows the shortcuts to links when pressing Ctrl, how do I activate it? |
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| 08:17.17 | Fri13 | lemma: Sorry, forgot to say that I use KDE3 |
| 08:17.26 | Fri13 | But might be on same place |
| 08:17.28 | Fri13 | Let me check |
| 08:17.46 | lemma | Fri13: it's not :) |
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| 08:19.47 | lemma | Fri13: sorry, no idea where to find it in kde3 |
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| 08:26.13 | sidhartha | does someone has an idea ? |
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| 08:40.18 | lemma | sidhartha: did you install from your distribution's packages? and if so, did you change anything in the scripts? |
| 08:40.49 | sidhartha | lemma: yes i installed from the freebsd ports |
| 08:40.57 | sidhartha | as i migrated form hdd |
| 08:41.06 | sidhartha | i copy the whole files |
| 08:41.23 | sidhartha | then i deinstall /reinstall kde |
| 08:41.44 | sidhartha | kde itself run fine when i lauch it with startx |
| 08:41.52 | sidhartha | but with startkde it fails |
| 08:42.13 | lemma | sidhartha: sounds strange indeed. try to login using kdm and see the users's ~/.xsession-errors |
| 08:42.24 | sidhartha | and as root with kdm it loops always on itself |
| 08:42.40 | sidhartha | oki i do it right now |
| 08:44.36 | sidhartha | lemma: URL: http://rafb.net/p/7MnQGg22.html |
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| 08:46.37 | lemma | sidhartha: strange. obviously it's trying to use the wrong syntax for mktemp |
| 08:48.09 | lemma | sidhartha: unfortunately I have no idea which script that mktemp command is in |
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| 08:48.29 | sidhartha | oh i will search agin |
| 08:48.32 | sidhartha | again |
| 08:48.41 | lemma | sidhartha: maybe try asking in a freebsd / kde-freebsd channel. this might be a known problem on bsd |
| 08:48.48 | sidhartha | thank you for interesting my problem |
| 08:48.57 | lemma | sidhartha: you're welcome |
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| 09:04.29 | zimnyx | Can I use KDE LGPL icons in my commercial website for free? |
| 09:05.17 | annma | define free |
| 09:05.36 | annma | zimnyx: KDE icons are free as they are LGPL |
| 09:05.51 | annma | you can use them but you must give KDE credits for them |
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| 09:06.13 | annma | having a visible line telling those icons are LGPL and from the KDE project |
| 09:06.34 | annma | they are "free" in the sense of the LGPL |
| 09:06.44 | Rioting_pacifist | i was reading kde rrs a while ago and there were posts about small interfaces, where can i search through planet kde ? |
| 09:07.19 | annma | Rioting_pacifist: there's no search tool so you need to remember what day it was or whom it was |
| 09:08.45 | zimnyx | annma: I see. Thanks. |
| 09:08.59 | Rioting_pacifist | nope it was probably asiego ill just stumble around, is anybody particularly devoted to porting kde to small devices? |
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| 09:10.16 | annma | it wad Adriaan De Grrot maybe |
| 09:10.20 | annma | de Grrot |
| 09:10.23 | annma | de Groot |
| 09:10.32 | annma | check his blog |
| 09:11.01 | twouters | Rioting_pacifist: maybe this one? http://aseigo.blogspot.com/2008/03/plasma-on-mobile-devices.html |
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| 09:12.53 | Jucato | ade is all about KDE on OSOL. it's aseigo |
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| 09:13.59 | annma | OK |
| 09:14.07 | lilltiger | zimnyx: You dont eaven have to give credit if you use lgpl icons, but if you redstribute them you need to include the license and state wich files it applies to |
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| 09:15.39 | Rioting_pacifist | wasnt that one but thatnks for the link, why do i feeel like im gunna spend the rest of this morning reading kde planet just to reply to one comment |
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| 09:17.00 | Jucato | "don't have to give credit" --> "don't have to, but is a good idea to be courteous" |
| 09:17.14 | Jucato | Rioting_pacifist: google helps |
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| 09:19.40 | Rioting_pacifist | yeah i was just hoping there was some search planet kde but it was adriaan so found it fairly quick thx to annma |
| 09:19.56 | Jucato | oh :) |
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| 09:20.26 | Jucato | aseigo's usually the one talking about KDE on small form factor devices (which is one of the justifications for the plasma applet handle icons) |
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| 09:23.11 | zimnyx | Who I was talking about KDE icons? |
| 09:24.35 | shevy | you know what would be cool? |
| 09:24.46 | shevy | a kde brainstorm! (similar to the ubuntu brainstorm) |
| 09:27.24 | Rioting_pacifist | i get the impression that kde are short on developer time not ideas |
| 09:27.37 | annma | is there a guy named Petr Vanek here please? |
| 09:28.09 | annma | shevy: what is a brainstorm? |
| 09:28.16 | annma | explain it to me |
| 09:29.27 | shevy | people add and describe specific ideas concerning KDE, others can support them if they want to. Developers can look if the ideas are nice (and whether people like the idea or not) |
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| 09:32.37 | annma | where do they do that? |
| 09:32.40 | annma | and when? |
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| 09:32.48 | Jucato | annma: Ubuntu. a few months ago |
| 09:33.06 | Jucato | annma: it's just a fancy way of (not) filling wish lists and voting :) |
| 09:33.12 | annma | Jucato: Ubuntu is not something |
| 09:33.29 | annma | where? as in a wiki? |
| 09:33.40 | Jucato | http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/ |
| 09:34.30 | Jucato | it actually sort of "imitates" Dell's earlier brainstorm site/process (which they used to get people's opinions about selling Linux laptops) |
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| 09:37.58 | annma | shevy: would you organize that then? |
| 09:38.04 | shevy | :-) |
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| 09:38.47 | Jucato | still doesn't know the advantage over a bug tracker... except for fancy appearances |
| 09:39.14 | shevy | i guess people use a bug tracker mostly for bugs, less for ideas |
| 09:39.51 | annma | bug tracker is not for new ideas |
| 09:40.10 | annma | we have something in kde-look I think about ideas |
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| 09:40.22 | Jucato | so why do we tell people to report feature requests/ideas as wishlists in b.k.o? |
| 09:40.35 | Jucato | ugh.. kde-*... |
| 09:40.36 | annma | shevy: I believe more in people getting involved to improve something than voicing ideas |
| 09:40.50 | annma | shevy: in KDE-Edu we have TONS of ideas |
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| 09:40.56 | annma | myself have tons |
| 09:40.59 | Jucato | actually thinks people voice too much nowadays... |
| 09:41.18 | annma | I just look at my kids and pop, tons of software edu ideas |
| 09:41.31 | Jucato | there's a KDE Brainstorm section in kde-apps/-look... and most people misinterpret them as *actual* available features :) |
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| 09:41.44 | annma | but I don't have the time and more, not the design ability |
| 09:42.06 | annma | Jucato: yes, this mix is harmful |
| 09:42.51 | Jucato | annma: I'd have to say that putting ideas on b.k.o. is better since we can actually track them, and people can subscribe to them and monitor progress |
| 09:43.03 | annma | true |
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| 09:43.20 | annma | but some projects have too much bugs and reports |
| 09:43.30 | Jucato | do we really have the resources to go from brainstorm.ubuntu.com to wiki.ubuntu.com to blueprint.ubuntu.com? |
| 09:43.40 | annma | shevy: what I'd like more is a partnership |
| 09:43.40 | Jucato | well if it helps KDE in the long run |
| 09:43.55 | annma | someone has an idea -> he gets INVOLVED in helping |
| 09:44.06 | annma | shevy: ^^ |
| 09:44.18 | Jucato | annma: but judging from what I've seen/read these past weeks, I don't think now is an appropriate time to do something like that :( |
| 09:44.29 | shevy | i kinda already knew where you were heading so i tried to duck and be silent to avoid further attention... ;-) |
| 09:44.32 | Jucato | wanna bet the first 100 brainstorms will all be about ditching plasma :) |
| 09:44.39 | annma | Jucato: why not? |
| 09:44.45 | annma | not at all |
| 09:45.06 | Jucato | if I had money, I'd push through with the bet :) |
| 09:45.13 | shevy | i'd vote against you! |
| 09:45.14 | annma | those people who wants plasma like their old kde are just stupid people who are nto even able to explain what they miss |
| 09:45.17 | Jucato | easy way for me to earn cash to buy a Nokia N810 :) |
| 09:45.35 | Jucato | annma: that doesn't prevent them from filing a brainstorm about it |
| 09:45.42 | Jucato | :) |
| 09:45.55 | annma | what I said is that I would like people to get involved |
| 09:46.03 | apple | zen me da zhongwen |
| 09:46.03 | annma | brainstorming I can do all day |
| 09:46.17 | Jucato | annma: I was specifically referring to the brainstorm site idea |
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| 09:46.26 | Jucato | I'm not entirely against it. but timing can be everything :) |
| 09:46.41 | shevy | hey |
| 09:46.47 | shevy | brainstorming ideas is much easier than implementing them |
| 09:47.03 | rpdaly | zenme da zhongwen? |
| 09:47.03 | Jucato | you make it sound like that's actually good :) |
| 09:47.11 | rpdaly | ni dagai bu neng! |
| 09:47.12 | Jucato | rpdaly: English please |
| 09:47.23 | rpdaly | just responding to the previous movement |
| 09:47.39 | Jucato | rpdaly: ok. please tell him English please :) |
| 09:47.46 | rpdaly | i would enjoy that as well |
| 09:48.02 | lilltiger | implementing ideas isent that hard either.. the hard part is the freaking code design.. |
| 09:48.24 | annma | totally lilltiger |
| 09:49.03 | lilltiger | making an space shooter right now.. rebuilt framwork tree times and are starting the forth right now.. :) |
| 09:51.11 | Jucato | shevy: fwiw, when brainstorm.ubuntu.com first came out, I was totally "KDE needs something nice like this". but the events of the past days has had me thinking twice about how to best implement something like that :) |
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| 09:51.35 | annma | are there KDE ideas in that brainstorm btw? |
| 09:51.50 | annma | what I'd like personally is first more feedback from distros |
| 09:51.51 | shevy | well you can ignore probably 98% of all ideas, except for the ~top 5 since really many people agreed that this would be nice to have |
| 09:52.01 | annma | are there any about KDE? |
| 09:52.13 | shevy | but it gives people a "feeling" that they can influence something, even if it may be small |
| 09:52.46 | Jucato | hm.. I have a rather very opinionated opinion about that |
| 09:52.49 | Jucato | :) |
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| 09:54.15 | Jucato | annma: yes: http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/478/ :P |
| 09:55.03 | shevy | well right now i only visit http://www.kde.org/ to see if there are news |
| 09:55.06 | Jucato | shevy: but opinions aside, what is probably needed more is the technical aspect, like is there an app/web app for this brainstorm kind of thing? |
| 09:55.15 | shevy | and kde-apps sometimes to scan for some nice apps |
| 09:55.27 | Jucato | shevy: you'd probably want to switch to http://dot.kde.org then :) |
| 09:55.55 | shevy | but kde.org looks better! :P |
| 09:56.08 | Jucato | (and you should read the comments to understand how my opinionated opinion was formulated) |
| 09:56.21 | Jucato | yeah. brainstorm is fancier than a bug tracker too |
| 09:56.25 | Jucato | :) |
| 09:56.54 | shevy | one thing i hate on brainstorm.ubuntu is the guy who placed "Log in" very small to the top-right side |
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| 09:57.37 | Jucato | oh there it is!!!! |
| 09:57.44 | Jucato | so it does require a login |
| 09:58.16 | shevy | hehe |
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| 10:05.13 | zimnyx | annma: Just for purposes of using LGPL icons on commercial website, I don't have to add notice about author & licesne, correct? |
| 10:05.35 | zimnyx | I mean it's my website, not a commercial product which I sell |
| 10:06.09 | annma | I don't know, ask in KDE licence mailing list |
| 10:06.25 | annma | I just told you that "free" is free in the sense of the license |
| 10:06.58 | annma | personally I would mention the icons origins and their author |
| 10:07.04 | Jejem | zimnyx: you have to |
| 10:07.19 | annma | lilltiger said not Jejem |
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| 10:07.41 | annma | zimnyx: yo would use these icons and not add a small mention of their origin then? |
| 10:09.03 | zimnyx | Jejem: annma: I'm confused on many LGPL explanations... |
| 10:09.17 | lilltiger | zimnyx: you should add, and well making the image avaible on an webpage is a bit like distributing it. Easiest way to stay safe it to inluce an copyright nitce about it.. althought not doing it isent directly in violation with the lgpl |
| 10:10.08 | zimnyx | I see, but with GPL icons I can do it without authors&license notice? |
| 10:10.28 | annma | zimnyx: just mention that they are GPL and from KDE |
| 10:10.29 | lilltiger | GPL is harder then the LGPL |
| 10:10.43 | annma | I don't see what you need to mention more |
| 10:10.49 | annma | GPL/LGPL |
| 10:11.36 | Jucato | zimnyx: I recommend asking the #oxygen (or #kde-artists ?) people. it's their work as well. they'd probably know best how to apply their license in this case |
| 10:11.47 | Jucato | or as annma suggested, the kde licensing mailing list |
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| 10:12.09 | zimnyx | Jucato: thnaks. |
| 10:12.18 | zimnyx | annma: , lilltiger: thnaks. |
| 10:12.21 | Jucato | but even if you were not required to actually give credit, I'd strongly suggest you do |
| 10:12.51 | lilltiger | gpl isent well suited for images.. as the GPL only enforces license within the source/redustribution package |
| 10:13.12 | lilltiger | i totaly agree with Jucato on that |
| 10:13.22 | Jejem | too |
| 10:13.31 | Jucato | three |
| 10:13.37 | Jucato | oh, can I agree with myself? |
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| 10:14.07 | lilltiger | only if you have multiple personalaties |
| 10:14.29 | Jucato | I do |
| 10:14.32 | Jucato | no you don't |
| 10:14.36 | Jucato | who cares? |
| 10:14.42 | Jucato | he does |
| 10:14.43 | zimnyx | Thanks you guys. |
| 10:14.44 | lilltiger | we do is the correct answere :p |
| 10:14.46 | Jejem | lol Jucato |
| 10:14.47 | Jejem | kernel panic ! |
| 10:14.57 | Jucato | segfaults |
| 10:15.16 | pinotree | lanches a SIGFPE to Jucato |
| 10:15.17 | annma | I would give credits to anything I use that is not for me, whatever license, just for the respect of the artist |
| 10:15.39 | Jejem | yeap annma |
| 10:15.41 | Jucato | I totally agree with annma on that |
| 10:15.44 | Jucato | hm.. deja vu |
| 10:16.02 | Jucato | credits lilltiger with the phrase |
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| 10:16.21 | Ragnarok | I have a problem with KDE 3.5.9. In every application. theres a black line on each line I click on in KDevelop, in Amarok, where your list of cd's, every other line is black. I try setting colour back to system default but it didn't help |
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| 10:16.56 | lilltiger | annma: normaly I do the same, except for webdesign where i use joomla but dosent mention on he actual page that it uses joomla |
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| 10:20.02 | annma | lilltiger: if you use other people icons, will you mention it? |
| 10:21.15 | lilltiger | annma: yes, any frontend stuff, althought most of it is copyrighted to the company i make the site for |
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| 10:21.26 | nd___ | Aloha... |
| 10:21.36 | Ragnarok | anyone? |
| 10:21.48 | nd___ | I wonder, how does kde map mimetypes to it's weird naming scheme in the mimetypes/ folder inside a theme? |
| 10:22.39 | Jucato | Ragnarok: KControl -> Appearance & Themes -> Colors -> select "Alternate Colors in Lists" and change that. that's the only idea I have |
| 10:23.14 | Jucato | annma: I do hope I don't have to put a lengthy credit line on a shirt I'm planning to have printed for myself with the KDE logo. will putting "http://www.kde.org" be enough? |
| 10:23.24 | Jucato | unfortunately, I can't make the text on the shirt clickable... |
| 10:23.47 | Jejem | hehe Jucato |
| 10:24.49 | Ragnarok | Jucato, thank you. Just now KDevelop still selects every line black. Maybe thats KDevelop i'll check |
| 10:25.16 | Jucato | Ragnarok: but amarok's ok? you will usually see that with any KDE app that has a list. |
| 10:25.35 | Ragnarok | Jucato, yes, amarok is perfect |
| 10:25.36 | Jucato | dunno if you need to restart KDevelop, but you definitely don't need to restart all of KDE |
| 10:25.42 | Jucato | (no it's not!) |
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| 10:25.45 | Jucato | hides |
| 10:26.11 | Ragnarok | yeah restarting fixed it :P |
| 10:26.20 | Jucato | hehe good |
| 10:26.29 | Ragnarok | too bad this dark blue colouring scheme makes it hard to read |
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| 10:27.05 | sigma_ | why do javascript popups not work in konqueror kde4.1? |
| 10:27.39 | blauzahl | are they being hidden? |
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| 10:28.34 | sigma_ | no when i click them no window opens, worked on kde4.0.3 though |
| 10:28.38 | blauzahl | tries to remember how they work... |
| 10:28.43 | blauzahl | oh. |
| 10:29.04 | sigma_ | its as if theres a error in the coding when there isnt |
| 10:29.06 | blauzahl | file a bug then i guess, give what site you're testing on and what changed |
| 10:29.25 | blauzahl | it sounds like the policy changed, and maybe it shouldn't have |
| 10:29.28 | blauzahl | or maybe it's a bug |
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| 10:29.41 | blauzahl | what site? |
| 10:30.02 | sigma_ | i even changed the javascript setting telling it to allow popups |
| 10:30.21 | blauzahl | oh that does sound bad |
| 10:30.28 | sigma_ | www.sigma-solutions.za.net - click on enter site then the media shop banner |
| 10:30.32 | blauzahl | what distro? |
| 10:30.54 | sigma_ | then click the enter shop button, a window should popup but doesnt |
| 10:31.05 | sigma_ | kubuntu 8.04 with kde4.1 b1 |
| 10:31.51 | blauzahl | waits for it to load.... |
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| 10:32.25 | sigma_ | lol sorry index is a big picture:) |
| 10:32.53 | blauzahl | and it must be far away.... |
| 10:33.53 | sigma_ | its on a american server, takes about 20-30s odd for me to load it, its only 352kb. suppose i should make it a jpeg |
| 10:34.07 | blauzahl | is there part of the site i can click on? |
| 10:34.19 | blauzahl | it stalls out on me |
| 10:34.30 | sigma_ | what do you see? |
| 10:34.31 | blauzahl | is in california |
| 10:34.33 | lilltiger | use pngcrush or one of thoes to optimizer the png |
| 10:34.48 | blauzahl | i see the top half of the pictures |
| 10:35.10 | sigma_ | http://www.sigma-solutions.za.net/site/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=47&Itemid=59 |
| 10:35.13 | blauzahl | down to the middle of ubuntu, and the K next to the marble is in |
| 10:35.34 | sigma_ | thats the page that has the button on it |
| 10:35.58 | blauzahl | its like it stops loading, i don't get it... |
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| 10:36.51 | sigma_ | strange, its loading for me |
| 10:37.07 | blauzahl | ok, that link loads instantaneously |
| 10:37.10 | sigma_ | whole frontpage took about 10s to come down |
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| 10:37.58 | sigma_ | that button should make another page popup but it does nothing |
| 10:38.12 | blauzahl | wait, which button? |
| 10:38.17 | sigma_ | and konq doesn't give a coding error |
| 10:38.36 | sigma_ | are you on the page titled - Sigma Solutions - Linux Media Store? |
| 10:40.18 | blauzahl | yep. which button should i hit? |
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| 10:41.08 | HalphaZ | hello |
| 10:41.53 | HalphaZ | I ran kdesvn-build --no-svn kdesupport |
| 10:41.58 | HalphaZ | but failed to install |
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| 10:42.09 | HalphaZ | I set make-install-prefix sudo -S in gedit |
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| 10:42.31 | HalphaZ | Probably I didn't undestrand that parameter usage |
| 10:42.47 | HalphaZ | what should make-install-prefix sudo -S do? |
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| 10:43.19 | blauzahl | HalphaZ: is this from a distro? |
| 10:43.39 | HalphaZ | i'm using kdesvnbuild script to copile kde4 trunk |
| 10:43.41 | blauzahl | sigma_: oh, the button at the bottom that pops up a form to fill in? instantly :) |
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| 10:44.29 | blauzahl | oh, i haven't figured out kdesvnbuild, i guess. try #kde-devel |
| 10:44.58 | HalphaZ | ok |
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| 10:45.39 | sigma__ | blauzahl: sorry got disconnected |
| 10:45.43 | blauzahl | opps. :) |
| 10:45.59 | blauzahl | sigma__: if i hit the button at the bottom, i instantly get a form to fill in |
| 10:46.48 | blauzahl | so works for me.... either this is something fixed since your version, or it's kubuntu specific |
| 10:47.36 | sigma__ | blauzahl: yeah thats what its supposed to do and it did that on kde4.0.3 but on 4.1 b1 on both my pc and laptop it doesnt open the new window |
| 10:47.47 | sigma__ | blauzahl: what version are you running? |
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| 10:48.21 | blauzahl | 4.0.81 >= 20080527 |
| 10:48.44 | blauzahl | i'm in the middle of a rebuild, so i'm not sure which revision exactly |
| 10:48.47 | blauzahl | but pretty recent :) |
| 10:50.12 | sigma__ | ah that must be it, im on stock 4.0.80 packages. well its good they fixed it, the tv guide website wasnt even working |
| 10:50.44 | sigma__ | blauzahl: has someone made a konversation kde4 version? |
| 10:50.44 | blauzahl | hmm |
| 10:51.05 | blauzahl | konversation devs are about to release their last 3.x version |
| 10:51.09 | blauzahl | then they port |
| 10:51.11 | sigma__ | lol pngcrush saved me a whole 4kb |
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| 10:51.27 | blauzahl | so rsn for konvi |
| 10:51.45 | sigma__ | ah i see. was wondering because kopete had a kde4 version since 4.0 |
| 10:52.06 | blauzahl | apparently konvi 1.1 is now in feature freeze |
| 10:52.28 | blauzahl | iirc i was told they thought it would take 3 weeks to port |
| 10:52.58 | blauzahl | assuming nobody dies or catches flu |
| 10:53.17 | sigma__ | im not really in a rush, the kde3 version works fine, just looks out of place in kde4 |
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| 10:53.54 | sigma__ | and do you know when openoffice will get proper kde4 integration? dialogs and icons and styles etc |
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| 10:55.41 | blauzahl | no clue on that |
| 10:55.47 | blauzahl | you can tell who i talk to :) |
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| 10:56.41 | sigma__ | oh ok :) well im glad kontact is done, pretty stable for a first release. is koffice2 due out anytime? |
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| 10:59.37 | Half-Left | Nice new splash for 4.1, great :) |
| 11:00.11 | sigma__ | Half-Left - new splash? |
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| 11:01.08 | Half-Left | sigma_, Yep |
| 11:01.12 | blauzahl | iirc koffice stuff is alpha atm |
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| 11:01.30 | Half-Left | It's alot nicer, no more flashing icons |
| 11:01.52 | blauzahl | kdepim is trying to smooth out edges in 4, and if you join #kde-bugs, you can help look for bugs |
| 11:02.43 | blauzahl | BugSquad just had a kdepim krush day (=we look for bugs), and the instructions are still in the topic, it's mostly self explantory |
| 11:03.51 | Half-Left | blauzahl, I'm trying to get someone to reproduce a kopete bug for me, I can't even get a backtrace of it |
| 11:04.02 | blauzahl | or you can help close bugs :) we have that in the topic too; work on konqueror and you'll be nicely ready for this sunday when we do amarok |
| 11:04.08 | sigma__ | i wonder if they fixed the nvidia problem |
| 11:04.18 | blauzahl | which one? |
| 11:04.41 | blauzahl | Half-Left: do you have your debug packages installed? |
| 11:05.11 | Half-Left | blauzahl, I have db installed yer but can get anything from it |
| 11:05.14 | sigma__ | when i use the proprietory nvidia driver, and drag a window it lags really badly |
| 11:05.31 | blauzahl | try starting it from konsole, and run it under gdb or valgrind |
| 11:05.34 | Half-Left | sigma__, Do you have VSync on? |
| 11:05.44 | blauzahl | it will be *really* slow under valgrind |
| 11:05.59 | Half-Left | blauzahl, I did what the kopete devs said but it says "No stack" |
| 11:06.27 | sigma__ | Half-Left: wasnt using desktop effects, vsync was disabled in any case |
| 11:06.39 | Half-Left | oh |
| 11:06.49 | blauzahl | Half-Left: you need debug symbols |
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| 11:07.05 | blauzahl | sigma__: i can see that too |
| 11:07.18 | blauzahl | what is VSync? |
| 11:07.24 | Half-Left | blauzahl, http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=163382 |
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| 11:07.59 | Half-Left | It locks your H/V refresh, effectively you get no screen tearing |
| 11:08.00 | thechef | Amarok says, that I have to mount the media placer device before I can connect to it, but it is mounted. |
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| 11:08.41 | blauzahl | Half-Left: what's your distro? and this is svn 4, or what? |
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| 11:09.18 | Half-Left | blauzahl, Linux Mint latest, 4.0.81 |
| 11:09.21 | Half-Left | svn |
| 11:09.43 | Half-Left | Ubuntu based of Hardy |
| 11:10.15 | blauzahl | check that your compile has the debug flag(s) in it. the techbase article should give them |
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| 11:10.49 | blauzahl | and then comment 3 should work |
| 11:10.56 | Half-Left | ok |
| 11:11.27 | sigma__ | blauzahl: will they be fixing it anytime soon? |
| 11:11.33 | blauzahl | maybe do a make clean just to be sure |
| 11:11.52 | blauzahl | sigma__: i'm not sure yet what that falls under exactly |
| 11:11.59 | blauzahl | fwiw, the nv drivers are worse |
| 11:12.20 | blauzahl | i haven't tried noveau |
| 11:12.28 | Half-Left | haha, krunner much more useful for finding bookmarks now |
| 11:13.15 | blauzahl | sigma__: see if it's in bugzilla, and file it if not |
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| 11:14.01 | sigma__ | blauzahl: i dont know if its a kwin or plasma issue |
| 11:14.23 | blauzahl | yeah |
| 11:14.26 | sigma__ | lol |
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| 11:15.32 | blauzahl | sigma__: file it, msg me the bug #, and i'll find out. |
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| 11:15.55 | blauzahl | and then move it to where it should be :) |
| 11:15.59 | sigma__ | its probably been filed already, lots of people i spoke to experienced it |
| 11:16.01 | blauzahl | but i need to sleep now |
| 11:16.16 | blauzahl | well, a quick search of bugzilla should show it |
| 11:16.30 | HalphaZ | http://rafb.net/p/BVucEd51.html here is my .kdesvn-buildrc |
| 11:16.33 | Half-Left | blauzahl, debugfull should be ok? |
| 11:16.41 | blauzahl | i'd think so |
| 11:16.44 | HalphaZ | http://rafb.net/p/ntEqYj68.html here is my install.log |
| 11:16.49 | HalphaZ | kdesupport fails to install |
| 11:17.09 | HalphaZ | i ran kdesvn-build --no-svn kdesupport |
| 11:17.12 | sigma__ | whats the url for the kde bugzilla? |
| 11:17.14 | HalphaZ | help me, please |
| 11:17.25 | blauzahl | bugs.kde.org |
| 11:17.51 | blauzahl | you can get an account and then you can join bugsqud :) #kde-bugs & read topic ;) |
| 11:17.53 | annma | HalphaZ: bugs.kde.org is not for build problems |
| 11:18.18 | blauzahl | oh, sorry, i meant allt hat towards sigma |
| 11:18.24 | blauzahl | sorry if it wasn't clear |
| 11:18.32 | HalphaZ | okokok |
| 11:18.41 | annma | HalphaZ: you need to learn to READ |
| 11:18.54 | annma | read the install.log |
| 11:18.58 | HalphaZ | I ed |
| 11:19.00 | HalphaZ | red |
| 11:19.03 | annma | and paste me here the line stating the problem |
| 11:19.15 | annma | paste the line that explains the problem |
| 11:19.22 | HalphaZ | last two |
| 11:19.30 | HalphaZ | last three |
| 11:19.34 | annma | paste the line here, there is one |
| 11:19.46 | annma | not last three |
| 11:19.55 | HalphaZ | FILE cannot create directory: /opt/kde4/bin. Maybe need administrative privileges. |
| 11:19.55 | annma | last three say the build fail |
| 11:19.58 | annma | AH |
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| 11:20.01 | annma | SEE |
| 11:20.02 | HalphaZ | ok |
| 11:20.08 | annma | you can READ |
| 11:20.33 | annma | HalphaZ: you want to install in /opt/kde4 you need to be root |
| 11:20.53 | HalphaZ | but i don't want install in /opt/kde4 |
| 11:20.58 | agnitio | I was just trying out the latest kde4live virtual machine... Is it really the case that the logout/quit etc. buttons in the kmenu _still_ does not actually to those actions but merely displays another shutdown dialog with the same choices? |
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| 11:21.07 | agnitio | s/to/do/ |
| 11:21.29 | HalphaZ | kdedir /home/halphaz/kde4install/ |
| 11:21.29 | agnitio | sorry, kde4daily virtual machine |
| 11:21.53 | Half-Left | laughs |
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| 11:22.22 | HalphaZ | ok, probably it's a good idea run kdesvn-build --no-svn --no-install kdesupport |
| 11:22.35 | HalphaZ | and after sudo kdesvn-build --install-only kdesupport |
| 11:22.40 | HalphaZ | ah? |
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| 11:23.14 | HalphaZ | and after sudo kdesvn-build --install kdesupport |
| 11:24.31 | annma | HalphaZ: I have no idea about kdesvn-build, as david faure said to you, we do it by hand, us developers |
| 11:25.01 | HalphaZ | o |
| 11:25.01 | HalphaZ | k |
| 11:25.44 | HalphaZ | did you know that ok derives from 0 killed? |
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| 11:27.13 | Half-Left | ugh |
| 11:27.45 | blauzahl | HalphaZ: let me see if i have anythign useful in a log |
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| 11:28.05 | Half-Left | blauzahl, Stil no stack I used -DCMAKE_BUILD_TYPE=debugfull to compile |
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| 11:31.30 | blauzahl-laptop | sorry, i don't see it offhand (the log i was thinking of) |
| 11:32.00 | blauzahl-laptop | Half-Left: i'm probably missing something obvious then, i should be asleep |
| 11:32.13 | blauzahl-laptop | you can make sure you're really running the 4 version vs the 3 version |
| 11:32.31 | blauzahl-laptop | has been known to do that :P |
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| 11:34.12 | Half-Left | SVN version 1.4.6 |
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| 11:48.03 | reese | hi! how do I disable the kdewallet daemon? |
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| 11:49.36 | Half-Left | annma, I've managed to reproduce that kopete bug proper |
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| 11:51.09 | nd___ | I wonder, how does kde map mimetypes to it's weird naming scheme in the mimetypes/ folder inside a theme? |
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| 11:52.15 | Half-Left | reese, In the system settings under advanced |
| 11:53.34 | reese | Half-Left, then in system manager I can't disable it |
| 11:53.55 | Half-Left | KDE4? |
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| 11:55.00 | Half-Left | Should be System Settings-->Advanced-->KDE Wallet Configuration |
| 11:55.14 | Half-Left | Mind you I'm running svn trunk |
| 11:55.49 | reese | I don't have KDE Wallet Configuration.. |
| 11:56.08 | annma | Half-Left: did you talked about it in #kopete then? |
| 11:56.36 | Half-Left | annma, I just updated the bug report with the steps to reproduce |
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| 11:57.22 | Half-Left | reese, KDE version, distro, packages or compiled? |
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| 11:59.22 | reese | Half-Left, kde 3.5, kubuntu 8.04. packages |
| 11:59.51 | Half-Left | reese, I for got where it is in 3.x |
| 11:59.56 | Half-Left | forgot* |
| 12:00.37 | Half-Left | Maybe it's in the service manager |
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| 12:02.22 | thiago | nd___: change the slashes to dashes |
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| 12:03.06 | reese | Half-Left, in service manager it only shows me that's running, but it doesn't allow changes to it. thanks, anyway :) |
| 12:06.31 | Half-Left | reese, I forgot sorry, should be a option for it in it's settings in the tray |
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| 12:22.03 | nd___ | thiago: So what kind of a mimetype is `info` or `cdr` then? I know mimetypes like application-x-tar &c. |
| 12:22.23 | nd___ | thiago: It seems to follow no standard |
| 12:22.37 | annma | nd___: what kind of nick is yours ;) |
| 12:22.53 | nd___ | annma: Short one... happens if you're lazy... |
| 12:23.07 | Half-Left | Should I spoil you people with a 4.1 splash screen how? :) |
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| 12:57.16 | Eldarka | hi! does anybody know how to change settings dir for KDE4 to ~/.kde4 instead of ~/.kde ? |
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| 13:04.38 | thiago | Eldarka: set the KDEHOME environment variable |
| 13:04.45 | thiago | that applies to both KDE 3 and KDE 4 apps |
| 13:05.30 | Eldarka | that's the deal - I need to keep both KDE4 and KDE3 for one user - and I don't want to mix settings dir |
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| 13:08.31 | dwins | Eldarka: you can set environment variables per-process |
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| 13:36.59 | iuso | how can i install the latest KDE alpha packages in wine on Linux? i'd like to see how Krita and friends run in wine, but i can't figure out how to install them so that wine will find the dll's |
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| 13:38.14 | thiago | iuso: why do you want the Windows build of KDE on Linux? |
| 13:39.01 | iuso | thiago: out of curiosity |
| 13:39.23 | iuso | thiago: but i found a possible fix, i think i need to use a wine search path env var |
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| 13:40.02 | pinotree | iuso: suggestion: #kde-windows |
| 13:40.13 | iuso | pinotree: thanks |
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| 13:41.17 | iuso | i can hardly describe the amount of coolness i'm experiencing even thinking about running a cross-platform KDE app for Windows under Linux using Wine... :) |
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| 13:41.46 | pinotree | iuso: or masochism, your choice |
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| 13:42.19 | iuso | pinotree: they're rather closely tangled |
| 13:42.31 | iuso | can't have one without the other |
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| 14:29.01 | Pollywog | is there a channel specifically for kde4? |
| 14:29.37 | g2g591_ | Don't think so |
| 14:29.43 | pinotree | this one |
| 14:29.45 | cb400f | nope.. not regarding user support at least.. some distros have kde4 specific channels |
| 14:30.24 | Pollywog | is it just me or does Kopete in KDE4 have fewer features than it did in KDE3? |
| 14:30.41 | Pollywog | for example, it does not seem to have crypto plugin |
| 14:30.53 | pinotree | ? |
| 14:30.57 | Pollywog | maybe the plugins are 3rd party and that's why |
| 14:31.11 | pinotree | which version of kde 4 are you using? |
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| 14:31.50 | Pollywog | 4.0 the one in Kubuntu Hardy backports |
| 14:32.54 | pinotree | some plugins (few) were moved away because of no maintainance, while other were added |
| 14:33.02 | Pollywog | oic |
| 14:33.11 | Pollywog | thanks I thought that might be it |
| 14:33.25 | pinotree | you might want to ask in #kopete for more information -- also, there's the OTR plugin for kde 4.1 |
| 14:33.37 | Pollywog | k thanks |
| 14:33.46 | Dumble | is there a way to prevent a KUniqueApplication to fork ? |
| 14:34.03 | pinotree | --nofork |
| 14:34.30 | ethan961 | bomb! |
| 14:34.32 | ethan961 | :P |
| 14:35.13 | Emess | I have an apple keyboard, and I'd like to map teh multimedia buttons to functions like pause/play, mute, and so on, is there a way with the control centre's mapping functions I can do that, or will I need to do something program specific? I'm noticing if I use teh Fn key, I can map F-keys, but I'd ratehr have them act as regular media keys, I'm using Archlinux and kde 3.5.9 |
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| 14:35.34 | Dumble | pinotree, ok, but can I do that in the code ? |
| 14:35.52 | pinotree | what is the real problem? |
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| 14:36.11 | Dumble | just that I don't want my appliation to fork |
| 14:36.15 | dwins | Emess: you should be able to map them the same as any other key (just select the action and press the key you'd like to use for it) |
| 14:36.17 | Dumble | application* |
| 14:36.29 | pinotree | you are using kuniqueapplication, so no way |
| 14:36.29 | Dumble | is it possible ? |
| 14:36.33 | dwins | if that doesn't work then you have the wrong keyboard model selected and you'll need to fix that |
| 14:36.35 | pinotree | just use kapplication |
| 14:36.37 | Emess | dwins: only, ti doesn't register unless I hold down Fn for it |
| 14:37.24 | Dumble | ok, and with KApplication, how can I avoid the service name to be appended with the pid of the application in DBus ? |
| 14:37.25 | Emess | Hmmm |
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| 14:37.51 | Emess | Not seeing any apple keyboards in the model section |
| 14:37.57 | Emess | maybe mess with xorg.conf? |
| 14:38.06 | pinotree | and do you want to distinguish the dbus interface of each application? |
| 14:38.09 | dwins | has never run xorg on a mac so no idea |
| 14:38.45 | pinotree | once again, what is the *real* problem? not what you want to workaround, but the *real* thing you want to do |
| 14:38.46 | Dumble | no, there will alway be only one instance of the application in the system |
| 14:39.29 | Dumble | my application should be reacheable via DBus without knowing its PID |
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| 14:40.00 | Emess | dwins: oh I'm not using a mac, I just have an apple keyboard, it was given by my roommate so my typing didn't keep her up |
| 14:40.18 | Dumble | and the fork is a problem for me because if the application crash, I must be reloaded, and at this time, this is done by a script |
| 14:40.52 | pinotree | i don't get the problem with kuniqueapplication |
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| 14:41.08 | Dumble | it fork |
| 14:41.23 | pinotree | not that, but waht you are doing |
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| 14:42.56 | Dumble | ok, I will start for the beginning : with KApplication, when the program register in DBus, the PID of the application is appended to the service name, and I don't want that, so, I tried with KUniqueApplication, and with kuniqueapplication the pid is not appended, but the program forks |
| 14:43.12 | pinotree | <Dumble> and the fork is a problem for me because if the application crash, I must be reloaded, and at this time, this is done by a script |
| 14:43.28 | pinotree | sigh... what is your environment? what are these scripts doing? |
| 14:43.48 | Dumble | Linux : while /bin/true; do ./myapp; done |
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| 14:44.04 | pinotree | ugh |
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| 14:44.27 | Dumble | the while loop wait the application to stop, but if the application fork, it will try to launch it again and again |
| 14:44.33 | Dumble | (I know, it's ugly) |
| 14:44.38 | thymine | hey, any idea where i would set KDEDIRS env variable? |
| 14:44.44 | pinotree | then launch it using --nofork? |
| 14:45.01 | Dumble | yeah, I think I have no choice |
| 14:45.06 | bgmiki | uh...resize window is bad in KDE4 |
| 14:45.17 | Dumble | or I must solve the pid problem with kapplication |
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| 14:52.12 | mikko777 | problem: kde4 wont list advanced sound devices, so is there a way to either get it back or to manually select spdiff output HW:0,2 in my card? |
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| 15:08.51 | kushal1 | what is the default irc client in kde4, please? |
| 15:09.11 | Kyral | Isn't it Konversation? (I wouldn't know...I haven't played with KDE4) |
| 15:09.48 | Jucato | kushal1: there is none. most distros have konversation installed. that's the "de facto" KDE IRC client |
| 15:09.53 | kushal1 | I am using chatzilla right now |
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| 15:10.44 | chuckh1958 | Does kde 3 have something similar to Windows' startup folder where I can put an app (like Compiz-Fusion Icon) into it to have it automatically start with the desktop? |
| 15:10.47 | kushal1 | I cannot even find konversation in the Internet submenu under applications |
| 15:11.01 | Jucato | kushal1: ask your distro |
| 15:11.08 | Jucato | and I said "most", not "all" :) |
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| 15:11.12 | Kyral | needs to start using KDE again...I used to know the answer to chuckh1958's question |
| 15:11.33 | chuckh1958 | Is it just a matter of adding it to the panel? |
| 15:11.42 | Kyral | Don't you place a symlink to whatever in ~/.kde/startup or somesuch? |
| 15:11.49 | Jucato | chuckh1958: there is. but Compiz is a special case, you might want to consult with #compiz-fusion |
| 15:12.02 | kushal1 | ok, thanks to all of you |
| 15:12.10 | Jucato | ~/.kde/Autostart/, but like I said, it's a special case |
| 15:12.29 | chuckh1958 | Jucato: The Compiz-Fusion Icon is just a trap application though. There also might be other apps I want to do this with. |
| 15:12.29 | Jucato | a Window Manager is not simply just another app you'll want to autostart that way |
| 15:12.34 | Kyral | oyah... |
| 15:12.54 | chuckh1958 | Jucato: It's not a window manager. It's an app that launches configuration settings and stuff for CF. |
| 15:13.15 | chuckh1958 | Jucato: CF window manager is loaded separately. |
| 15:13.27 | Jucato | ccsm? |
| 15:13.33 | Jucato | or something |
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| 15:13.47 | Jucato | then yeah, ~/.kde/Autostart/ should do |
| 15:14.20 | chuckh1958 | Jucato: Is there a gui way to add it or do I just put a symlink to the app in there? |
| 15:14.25 | pinotree | not sure that's the best way to start it |
| 15:15.09 | pinotree | chuckh1958: http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/3478 |
| 15:15.11 | thymine | does anyone know where i can set KDEDIRS? |
| 15:15.13 | pinotree | please read it |
| 15:15.27 | Kyral | thymine: The environment var? |
| 15:15.31 | thymine | yes |
| 15:15.33 | pinotree | thymine: in your ~/.profile or ~/.bash_profile, depending on the distro |
| 15:15.35 | Kyral | thymine: Should be in .profile |
| 15:15.41 | Kyral | or .bashrc |
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| 15:15.46 | thymine | well it basically has a script in those |
| 15:16.22 | chuckh1958 | this is not compiz I'm launching but rathe a tray app that allows you to change settings and themes. |
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| 15:16.38 | Jucato | pinotree: I think basically chuckh1958 was asking about the compiz-fusion icon utility (separate from compiz wm itself).. although not really sure, never really used that. hence I suggested he ask in #compiz-fusion |
| 15:16.43 | chuckh1958 | I dont want it in .profile or .bash_profile as there may be times when I'm not running the desktop. |
| 15:17.19 | chuckh1958 | It really needs to be started by the desktop, when the desktop starts. |
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| 15:18.27 | pinotree | Jucato: (hey, aren't you linking your autostart howto page??) |
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| 15:18.52 | Jucato | my what? |
| 15:18.55 | Jucato | oh right hahaha |
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| 15:19.05 | Jucato | http://jucato.org/kde/kde-autostart.html |
| 15:19.17 | pinotree | dammit, you do the docs, and even forget about them! |
| 15:19.22 | Kyral | lol |
| 15:19.39 | Jucato | I'm not myself tonight. I'm terribly pissed off :) |
| 15:19.49 | Jucato | wonders why he's smiling then... |
| 15:20.03 | annma | lol |
| 15:22.54 | chuckh1958 | Jucato: thanks. I'm reading that page now. |
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| 15:25.39 | miniBill | anyone uses otr plugin for kopete? |
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| 15:27.11 | oipat | Tried to re-ogranize my K Menu, and now it's a mess. How can I revert the changes? |
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| 15:31.23 | Foriskak | anyone know how to edit/override what cmake generates when compiling kde? |
| 15:31.37 | Foriskak | kdelibs keeps failing on libraries I don't care about/can't find |
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| 15:33.36 | cbr | is it normal that in 4.1 beta1 user-assigned keyboard shortcuts dont work? |
| 15:34.48 | Jucato | Foriskak: unless you absolutely know what you're trying to do, wouldn't it be better to ask your distro what packages you can find those missing libs? |
| 15:35.11 | Jucato | because, who knows? those libs might be essential to a working KDE, specially since it's in kdelibs |
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| 15:37.34 | _lemma | Foriskak: apart from what Jucato said (he's right!) it's easiest to disable the generation in CMakeLists.txt |
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| 15:39.34 | _lemma | oipat: in kde it's in the menu Edit -> Restore to system menu |
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| 15:40.11 | tobias_ | hey, i got a question...i just installed FC9 and don't have any sound...what should i do? |
| 15:40.32 | Jucato | the first thing to do is to ask in #fedora :) |
| 15:40.37 | tobias_ | i am using Toshiba laptop |
| 15:40.53 | thymine | hoho laptop, things jsut got complicated |
| 15:41.20 | Jucato | which is why it's smarter to throw the question at #fedora :) |
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| 15:41.47 | tobias_ | ok...thx...i will get there and ask |
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| 15:49.51 | cghislai | hi |
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| 15:50.53 | cghislai | hi |
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| 15:51.50 | cghislai | i use kde 4.00.84 and have various problems with dbus |
| 15:52.25 | cghislai | several apps can't start and throws message "org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply" |
| 15:52.47 | _lemma | cghislai: that seems to indicate that some service they are trying to call is not available |
| 15:52.53 | _lemma | cghislai: which applications throw this error? |
| 15:52.58 | cghislai | juk, |
| 15:53.37 | _lemma | cghislai: do they indicate what they are trying to do? |
| 15:53.45 | cghislai | no |
| 15:53.55 | cghislai | _lemma: Communication problem with "juk" , it probably crashed. |
| 15:54.20 | pinotree | then this is the problem, not dbus |
| 15:54.30 | cghislai | amarok too, |
| 15:54.40 | pinotree | how did you install kde? |
| 15:54.51 | cghislai | packages |
| 15:54.59 | pinotree | which distro? |
| 15:55.08 | cghislai | archlinux |
| 15:55.13 | _lemma | cghislai: have you tried turning it off and on again? |
| 15:55.18 | cghislai | there are unofficial |
| 15:55.19 | sandsmark | cghislai: daily svn-builds, or kdemod? |
| 15:55.25 | cghislai | kdemod |
| 15:55.26 | Jucato | _lemma: lol! I just remembered something |
| 15:55.31 | _lemma | Jucato: :-) |
| 15:55.37 | cghislai | _lemma: turining what? dbus? |
| 15:55.46 | Jucato | _lemma: if you've ever watched the IT crowd, then you'd know :) |
| 15:55.50 | _lemma | cghislai: actually in general. but have you tried rebooting? |
| 15:55.58 | _lemma | Jucato: I know them all. |
| 15:55.59 | pinotree | cghislai: please ask in an archilinux channel, they are responsible for them |
| 15:56.04 | cghislai | rebooting no, restarting X & dbus & co |
| 15:56.10 | Jucato | _lemma: hehe :) |
| 15:56.11 | sandsmark | pinotree: they are vanilla =) |
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| 15:56.16 | _lemma | Jucato: I even solved someone's kde problem just throwing this sentence into #kde randomly |
| 15:56.17 | pinotree | sandsmark: hahaha, bullshit |
| 15:56.18 | Jucato | </offtopic> |
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| 15:56.37 | sandsmark | =) |
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| 15:56.43 | pinotree | sandsmark: for starting, the kde version cghislai states does not even exist, yet |
| 15:56.48 | Jucato | <cghislai> kdemod <--- except what he's using isn't, sandsmark :) |
| 15:56.57 | sandsmark | Jucato: I compile them =) |
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| 15:57.06 | pinotree | then you miscompiled |
| 15:57.11 | alesan | hi, any idea what is a gam_server? |
| 15:57.11 | sandsmark | cghislai: it is probably 4.0.81 |
| 15:57.18 | Jucato | sandsmark: you did. but he/she can't :) |
| 15:57.19 | sandsmark | they work for me (tm) |
| 15:57.21 | cghislai | sandsmark: thats what kde-config gave me |
| 15:57.36 | sandsmark | cghislai: 32-bit or 64-bit? |
| 15:57.39 | cghislai | 32 |
| 15:57.45 | cghislai | KDE: 4.00.81 (KDE 4.0.81 >= 20080527 |
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| 15:57.56 | pinotree | sandsmark: please bring him on a proper channel |
| 15:57.56 | sandsmark | breathes better, he just takes care of x86_64 |
| 15:58.04 | sandsmark | pinotree: come to #shaman-arch? |
| 15:58.07 | sandsmark | geh... |
| 15:58.11 | sandsmark | cghislai: #shaman-arch |
| 15:58.16 | sandsmark | that's the closes we have to a channel =) |
| 15:58.22 | sandsmark | *t |
| 15:58.42 | cghislai | ok |
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| 16:07.02 | BASEman | Is it correct to enter "devices:/" in Dolphin? |
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| 16:09.04 | Jucato | nope |
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| 16:21.50 | Foriskak | jucato...easier said than done |
| 16:21.56 | Foriskak | yum produced nothing of course |
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| 16:22.51 | Jucato | Foriskak: did you ask your distro? what errors are you having? can you give more details |
| 16:23.37 | Foriskak | I don't understand what you mean by ask distro except to google for it, I am having kdelibs build fail on a .so file for kfileaudiopreview |
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| 16:24.35 | Jucato | Foriskak: "ask your distro" usually means "ask in your distro's IRC channel or forums" |
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| 16:25.37 | Foriskak | jucato...hmm, running locate seems to show I have the .so file |
| 16:25.43 | Jucato | do you have media-related requirements installed? usually phonon and xine |
| 16:26.36 | Foriskak | not xine |
| 16:26.40 | Foriskak | is this critical? |
| 16:27.15 | Jucato | afaik, yes |
| 16:27.27 | Foriskak | ok...yum could not find a "phonon" |
| 16:27.49 | Jucato | (maybe pinotree can help me on this one :) |
| 16:28.05 | Jucato | Foriskak: it's in kdesupport |
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| 16:29.07 | pinotree | no, branches/phonon/4.2 |
| 16:29.15 | Jucato | oh right |
| 16:29.21 | Jucato | easily gets confused with that |
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| 16:30.32 | BASEman | Jucato, was that "nope" for me? |
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| 16:30.57 | Foriskak | pino...I've also found some pages about installing it |
| 16:31.06 | Foriskak | so connect to svn and download and build? |
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| 16:31.16 | pinotree | yes |
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| 16:31.21 | Jucato | BASEman: yes |
| 16:31.23 | Foriskak | ok...but first breakfast |
| 16:31.36 | BASEman | Jucato, and how do I do it then? |
| 16:31.46 | Jucato | BASEman: do what? |
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| 16:32.10 | BASEman | Jucato, display devices in Dolphin... |
| 16:32.32 | Jucato | my own question: can anyone else reproduce a konqueror problem? once in a while it stops functioning when I create new tabs or go to web sites, giving me a "Cannot Initiate the http Protocol" error page? |
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| 16:32.59 | BASEman | The "recently plugged devices" seems to be broken right now. |
| 16:33.09 | Jucato | "Technical Reason: Unable to Launch Process" and "Additional Information: Cannot talk to klauncher: Connection is closed" |
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| 16:33.46 | BASEman | Jucato, I am a FF user. |
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| 16:33.53 | Jucato | BASEman: KDE 4.0? I can't really say since it's working fine for me in 4.1. I can see all my partitions and any CD/DVD or USB I plug in |
| 16:33.57 | Jucato | FF? |
| 16:34.03 | Jucato | oh that question wasn't for you |
| 16:34.06 | BASEman | Firefox |
| 16:34.07 | Jucato | it was for #kde in general :) |
| 16:34.36 | FlyingFoX | is there a way to enable the hibernate and suspend buttons to my logout menu? I am using kde 3.5.9 under gentoo. |
| 16:34.55 | BASEman | Jucato, yeah, got it but since we were chatting I thaught it was "polite" to respond even if not adding much value. |
| 16:35.26 | BASEman | Jucato, what is the string you entered? |
| 16:35.36 | BASEman | ... to diplay the devices |
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| 16:35.43 | BASEman | *display |
| 16:35.57 | Jucato | nothing. it's in the sidebar |
| 16:36.00 | pinotree | to display the devices... where? |
| 16:36.12 | pinotree | ah, in dolphin |
| 16:36.12 | BASEman | pinotree, in Dolphin |
| 16:36.19 | pinotree | nowhere, it's in the sidebar |
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| 16:36.59 | pinotree | view → panels → places to activate it, in case it is not |
| 16:37.28 | BASEman | pinotree, places is active, no devices. |
| 16:38.15 | pinotree | what do you see in there, then? |
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| 16:39.03 | BASEman | pinotree, I suppose It's currently broken in my distro (oS 10.3). I see home, netw, root, trash, desktop, ... |
| 16:39.20 | pinotree | ah, but it's kde3? |
| 16:39.45 | BASEman | pinotree, no 4... |
| 16:40.03 | BASEman | 4.0.4 |
| 16:40.20 | BASEman | page not found :-p |
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| 16:41.30 | pinotree | in the sidebar, i have home, network, root, trash, and then the partitions, and optionally usb drives and cd/dvd when they are plugged/inserted |
| 16:42.39 | BASEman | pinotree, I used to get a notification when inserting a SD card, I don't today. I suppose I d/l an update which broke it. Probably 4.0.4. |
| 16:43.50 | annma | that reminds me I ordered a SD card which never went here |
| 16:44.07 | pinotree | annma: take the phone and start a nice blaming |
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| 17:20.28 | ArchWrk | hello folks. |
| 17:20.44 | ArchWrk | started getting this error launching Konqueror: |
| 17:20.47 | ArchWrk | /usr/lib64/libkhtml.so.4: unexpected reloc type 0x41 |
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| 17:21.12 | ArchWrk | 3.5.8-1.fc6 |
| 17:21.36 | ArchWrk | kdelibs-3.5.8-1.fc6 |
| 17:22.07 | Drantin | not a fedora problem? |
| 17:23.26 | pedepy | does kget manage torrents? |
| 17:27.38 | ArchWrk | Drantin, could be I guess, but it smells of a bad .so |
| 17:28.03 | Drantin | ArchWrk: wasn't the build provided by fedora? |
| 17:28.30 | dwins | wait fc6? |
| 17:28.35 | ArchWrk | ye |
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| 17:28.44 | ArchWrk | +s |
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| 17:29.07 | Drantin | pedepy: afaik, kget doesn't have the ability to do anything other than download the .torrent file, ktorrent can use them to get the actual file you're looking for though... |
| 17:29.09 | dwins | is that an official fedora package? fc6 is no longer supported |
| 17:29.56 | MoDaX | fde: distro? |
| 17:30.08 | Jucato | pedepy, Drantin: actually kget in KDE 4 has basic torrent capabilities. though I still have to figure out how to use that properly... |
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| 17:31.37 | pedepy | i just think itd be something neat ? |
| 17:31.48 | pedepy | make it happen. |
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| 17:32.34 | Drantin | Jucato: in 4.0.5? it isn't showing up in the configuration options, unless it's supposed to just work and not take any input, or doesn't show unless you try to load a .torrent file... |
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| 17:33.32 | Drantin | or is it in the 4.1 branch? |
| 17:34.45 | Jucato | can't recall if it's already in 4.0... but like I said, I haven't figured out how to use it properly. all I have is that when I try to download a .torrent file from Konqueror, it actually starts to download the torrent |
| 17:36.42 | Drantin | ah.... this quote is from february, so I'm not sure how accurate it is... "Torrent support isn’t available in the 4.0 branch, but work for it is being worked on and available in trunk." |
| 17:37.03 | Jucato | well definitely in trunk already |
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| 17:51.37 | fde | MoDaX: Sorry, I'm using openSUSE... kde4.1 beta packages... |
| 17:52.38 | MoDaX | fde: that's because kde4 khtml finds kde3 data files |
| 17:53.30 | fde | MoDaX: Umm, it's looking at the kde4 directory, so how do you come to that conclusion? |
| 17:53.45 | fde | http://pastebin.com/m3e92e563 |
| 17:54.45 | MoDaX | fde: then some packages are too old. this was added post beta 1 (4.0.81+) |
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| 17:55.21 | Captainchris | hi everybody |
| 17:55.33 | Captainchris | i have an error when i build kdelib 4.0.5 |
| 17:55.43 | Captainchris | with ssl |
| 17:55.44 | fde | MoDaX: I guess I'll have to wait a bit for things to catch up then... hmm |
| 17:56.01 | Captainchris | http://pastebin.com/m49556edd |
| 17:56.15 | MoDaX | fde: replace that file with the one from KDE kdelibs trunk |
| 17:56.20 | MoDaX | fde: it will work |
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| 17:57.19 | Madkiss | hi all |
| 17:57.25 | Madkiss | what file contains the kde klipboard history? |
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| 17:57.57 | Drantin | 4.0.3? why ? |
| 17:58.00 | MoDaX | fde: http://websvn.kde.org/*checkout*/trunk/KDE/kdelibs/khtml/css/html4.css |
| 17:58.27 | pusling | Madkiss: I don't think it is saved to a file ? |
| 17:58.29 | Drantin | Captainchris: sure it's 4.0.5? `/home/captainchris/Pack/KDE4/kdelibs-4.0.3/build' |
| 17:58.35 | Madkiss | pusling: fuck it. why not? |
| 17:58.58 | pusling | why should it ? ;) |
| 17:59.08 | Madkiss | because i need an entry out of it |
| 17:59.17 | Madkiss | and this would have saved me from a ride to my company |
| 17:59.33 | pusling | Madkiss: but else, try find .kde | grep klipper and look ;) |
| 18:00.04 | fde | MoDaX: Thank you |
| 18:00.18 | pusling | Madkiss: I have something in share/apps/klipper/ - but it doesn't look completely human readable |
| 18:01.10 | Madkiss | what a bullshit. |
| 18:02.44 | pusling | Madkiss: nice language you got there |
| 18:03.07 | Jucato | Madkiss: please watch the language |
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| 18:03.48 | Madkiss | pusling, Jucato: are you from the U.S.? |
| 18:04.04 | pusling | no. |
| 18:04.16 | fde | MoDaX: Much appreciated, that fixed Akregator and Kopete here :) |
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| 18:04.49 | Jucato | wonders why it matters whether he's from the U.S. or not |
| 18:04.55 | MoDaX | fde: you're welcome |
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| 18:07.50 | asfak | how do i remove a black square around icons on kde4 desktop. (i know the functionality but i hate the look) |
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| 18:13.24 | fde | asfak: Find a theme that doesn't have them? |
| 18:13.38 | fde | asfak: Or customize the theme yourself... |
| 18:13.52 | Kraplax | or upgrade to svn? |
| 18:14.04 | fde | Kraplax: SVN default theme has them. |
| 18:14.14 | Kraplax | does svn has 'icons on desktop'? |
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| 18:14.30 | fde | Kraplax: sort of, but it has the folder view too. |
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| 18:15.25 | Kraplax | oh.. you mean containment's square border.. |
| 18:15.27 | fde | I think it's cleaner anyways, but it takes up more room if you don't have many icons. |
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| 18:15.54 | fde | Kraplax: Yeah, uhh... the plasmoid is called Folder View. |
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| 18:16.01 | Captainchris | no ideas ? |
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| 18:16.40 | Laptop_Brain | how do i make konqueror smooth its fonts? it appears to not be anti alaising, and ive tried various fonts |
| 18:16.42 | Kraplax | fde: well, just copy the theme you like most and delete svgs for those containments? |
| 18:16.43 | jazka | Captainchris: you didn't give any error message or so |
| 18:16.45 | Laptop_Brain | everything else is anti aliaised |
| 18:16.55 | jazka | oh you did |
| 18:16.57 | jazka | is blind |
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| 18:17.44 | Captainchris | DRantin , sorry i don't see your post |
| 18:17.55 | Captainchris | yes the same error withe 4.0.3 and 4.0.5 |
| 18:18.01 | Captainchris | yesterday |
| 18:19.42 | asfak | fde, changing theme just changes colour of square around the icon. |
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| 18:20.07 | Captainchris | i would like buil kdelibs4.0.3 but it had an error |
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| 18:28.53 | Captainchris | no idea ? |
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| 18:30.31 | Kraplax | Captainchris: fix it =) |
| 18:32.02 | Captainchris | hwo ? |
| 18:32.13 | Captainchris | how ? |
| 18:32.30 | Kraplax | Captainchris: you see, if anyone can help you here, then they need at least to see an error log. Be so kind, post one on pastebin.com |
| 18:33.50 | Captainchris | http://pastebin.com/m49556edd |
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| 18:45.53 | Kraplax | now just wait and ask for help a bit later - i suppose in some places of the world it's dark night now... |
| 18:47.09 | thechef | I can't burn 2 CDs at the same time anymore with k3b in KDE 3.5 |
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| 18:48.06 | thechef | the window that displays the burning process seems to block input to the main window |
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| 18:57.59 | Captainchris | which version of openssl is good to build kde 4.0.5 ? |
| 19:00.31 | Drantin | using 0.9.8h myself |
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| 19:03.18 | Captainchris | howx to build because i have lo'ts of error in kde build |
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| 19:03.26 | Captainchris | and now ssh doesn't work |
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| 19:22.16 | aedaemoen | hey guys, having issues with kontact and a mail lock file |
| 19:22.33 | tsb | How did you link windows in kwin again? I know it's *somewhere* in special window settings but.. I'd like both firefox and its error-consol to act as one, ie if I click on one of them to gain focus the mainwindow should also appear. I think this is possible - I think I set up gimp this way a long time ago. |
| 19:22.51 | aedaemoen | could use some assistance. renamed my user acct with the suggestion from one of my managers, forgot to change the mail spool file and a few other things, now trying to correct it and the spool file is not locking correctly |
| 19:22.57 | dwinslow | tsb: sort of like a virtual desktop? |
| 19:23.58 | tsb | dwinslow: hrm, not sure about that. Here's the use-case: I develop in eclipse, and when I want to try it out, I alt-tab to firefox and hit f5, however I want firebug and the error-console to appear as well on top of eclipse, if you understand |
| 19:24.40 | dwinslow | so why not ctrl+f2 to firefox and hit f5? |
| 19:24.49 | tsb | dwinslow: the way it is now, to get those 3 windows on top, I either have to select all of them to bring them to the front, or minimize eclipse if the 3 firefix windows are what is right under eclipse. |
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| 19:25.51 | tsb | dwinslow: *shrugs* I just think this is possible with kwin and would like to do it if it is.. I realize it could be done with a desktop dedicated to firefox, ofcourse. |
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| 19:42.57 | kristjan_ | any way to save file properties dialog window size? |
| 19:43.54 | kristjan_ | it keeps resets if you close file properties and open new (nuisance if you try to edit file names longer than fits on file properties window) |
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| 19:46.18 | Nyle | how i can change firefox fonts from kde |
| 19:46.26 | Nyle | there used to be a gtk2-engines-gtk-qt |
| 19:46.32 | Nyle | but what happend to it? |
| 19:46.46 | kristjan_ | Nyle: menu fonts? it's still there "gtk-qt engine" |
| 19:47.03 | kristjan_ | Nyle: http://gtk-qt.ecs.soton.ac.uk/ |
| 19:47.05 | Nyle | its not i have a minimal kde install and i wish to add just that app |
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| 19:47.46 | Nyle | thats not what i want |
| 19:48.17 | sandsmark | Nyle: which distro? |
| 19:48.27 | Nyle | debian distro |
| 19:48.30 | Nyle | for that iw ant |
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| 19:49.39 | kristjan_ | Nyle: that's exactly what you want |
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| 19:50.09 | kristjan_ | Nyle: apt-get install gtk-qt-engine |
| 19:50.14 | Nyle | kristjan_, its not in a debian pacakge! |
| 19:50.25 | kristjan_ | Nyle: then comile it |
| 19:50.27 | Nyle | oh |
| 19:50.28 | kristjan_ | *p |
| 19:50.31 | Nyle | its called gtk-qt engine |
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| 19:50.37 | Nyle | they change name |
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| 19:50.56 | Nyle | thank you |
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| 19:51.14 | Nyle | yes |
| 19:51.15 | Nyle | !!! |
| 19:51.26 | Nyle | the menu for kcontrol and gtk apps fonts is back |
| 19:51.39 | Nyle | kristjan_, you are the main man |
| 19:52.33 | kristjan_ | yep I'm the main, the rest is sub |
| 19:52.36 | kristjan_ | haha |
| 19:52.59 | Nyle | kristjan_, you are using debian for long time? |
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| 19:53.27 | kristjan_ | Nyle: no. I'm using kuhbuntu |
| 19:53.42 | Nyle | ew. |
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| 19:54.06 | Nyle | ubuntu is dirty debian |
| 19:54.09 | Nyle | very dirty |
| 19:54.14 | Nyle | :( |
| 19:54.22 | kristjan_ | Nyle: are you in disgust? |
| 19:54.28 | Nyle | yessir. |
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| 19:55.05 | Nyle | no following the bandwogons |
| 19:55.12 | Nyle | I use it and it crap my head |
| 19:55.15 | Nyle | seriously |
| 19:55.21 | Nyle | ufff. |
| 19:55.56 | Nyle | kristjan_, I juse use debian from 8 year and I like it very much |
| 19:56.09 | Nyle | I also like KDE very much too |
| 19:56.18 | Nyle | I speak Urdu |
| 19:56.39 | kristjan_ | Nyle: why did kuhbuntu crap on your head? |
| 19:56.50 | Nyle | I don't know ask him |
| 19:56.53 | Nyle | hehe |
| 19:57.13 | kristjan_ | that's dirty I have to be careful |
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| 19:57.21 | Nyle | yes very careful |
| 19:57.34 | Nyle | debian sid for 7 years never gave me crap in head |
| 19:57.43 | Nyle | only few weeks of ubuntu drive me nuts |
| 19:58.13 | sandsmark | =) |
| 19:58.14 | Nyle | I like Suse very much |
| 19:58.32 | Nyle | then enlightenment was nice too |
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| 19:58.59 | jason__ | Is there a way I can make kate use windows line endings instead of linux ones? |
| 19:59.05 | the-erm | Anyone know off the top of their head how to edit the menu that pops up when you insert media into a card reader/external usb drive? |
| 19:59.26 | the-erm | I'd like to add a few custom scripts for copying pictures and what not ... |
| 20:00.20 | sandsmark | the-erm: in kubuntu, kde 3.5, or in kde 4? |
| 20:00.23 | sandsmark | =) |
| 20:00.37 | the-erm | 3.5 kubuntu :) |
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| 20:01.24 | inaety | when will the issue with konqueror and myspace music player be fixed? are there any reports on it or anything |
| 20:01.27 | sandsmark | the-erm: you had to pick the only one I'm not very familiar with =) |
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| 20:01.35 | sandsmark | the-erm: it is somewhere in system settings |
| 20:01.40 | sandsmark | there's a whole kcmodule for it =D |
| 20:02.03 | the-erm | so it should be somewhere in kcontrol? |
| 20:02.09 | sandsmark | or system settings |
| 20:02.11 | the-erm | ok. |
| 20:02.15 | sandsmark | isn't that default in kubuntu? |
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| 20:02.23 | sandsmark | I don't have a Kubuntu machine available, sorry =/ |
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| 20:03.02 | jason__ | Is there a way I can make kate use windows line endings instead of linux ones? |
| 20:03.12 | the-erm | Well something does pop up, but I want to have the option of running a custom script. |
| 20:03.35 | sandsmark | the-erm: there is a module for customizing exactly that menu |
| 20:03.40 | sandsmark | media devices or something |
| 20:03.40 | the-erm | ok. |
| 20:03.44 | the-erm | I'll look around. |
| 20:04.28 | the-erm | I guess it's peripherals -> storage media |
| 20:04.29 | the-erm | thanks. |
| 20:04.54 | sandsmark | =) |
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| 20:07.21 | bgmiki | Welcome Jejem! You have achieved a new peak of 377 users for #KDE! |
| 20:07.31 | pinotree | bgmiki: euhmm?? |
| 20:07.40 | Kraplax | jason__: yes you can |
| 20:08.42 | sandsmark | Kraplax is not going to tell you how, anyways =) |
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| 20:09.12 | thiago_home | bgmiki: are you counting? |
| 20:09.37 | jason__ | Kraplax: thanks, I found it |
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| 20:10.50 | Kraplax | oh.. |
| 20:10.59 | bgmiki | didn't do nothing? |
| 20:11.14 | bgmiki | i watch football ? |
| 20:11.26 | Kraplax | i'm downloading some stuff and got really big delay between answers )) |
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| 20:12.15 | Kraplax | bgmiki: you're talking to me? |
| 20:12.40 | bgmiki | lol no i talk to my xchat |
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| 20:12.42 | bgmiki | :) |
| 20:13.33 | Kraplax | hm.. )) |
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| 20:13.48 | Kraplax | well, no. Don't watch football |
| 20:13.49 | kkerwin | Hi. Using KDE 4.1 beta on Kubuntu 8.10. Wondering why knotify4 and plasma are eatting through my CPU cycles like crazy. Is there anything that I can do to improve performance (aside from disabling desktop-effects; already done that). |
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| 20:15.53 | Kraplax | i'm downloading UbuntuStudio via Torrents with FlashGet and it's not able to control the speed... hm... wait.. it's able... |
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| 20:17.40 | g2g591 | kkerwin: thats most likely Kubuntu patch that broke things. most likely. I'm running KDE svn and have been for a while with minimal cpu usage (normally 1-4%) |
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| 20:18.33 | g2g591 | kkerwin: a FEW others have experianced high cpu usage/memory leaks, but, it sounded like it was related to the graphics driver |
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| 20:26.36 | the-erm | What exactly does kde use to mount media? It's passing system:/media/sdb1 which is odd because /media/sdb1 doesn't exist ... |
| 20:27.00 | Kyral | It probably makes on the fly |
| 20:27.04 | arpee_ong | it does exist.. |
| 20:27.06 | g2g591 | black magic |
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| 20:27.13 | arpee_ong | <PROTECTED> |
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| 20:27.44 | the-erm | Of course it's /dev/sdb1 ... I guess I should just try mount |
| 20:28.52 | arpee_ong | system:/media is just a pseudo path where the device is appended |
| 20:29.10 | arpee_ong | the actual mount point is /media/{NAME} |
| 20:29.21 | thiago_home | the-erm: HAL if available |
| 20:29.23 | arpee_ong | which would probably be different with sdb1, usually the volume name |
| 20:30.13 | the-erm | I believe hal is enabled, it appears that a user can't run "mount /dev/sdb1 mnt |
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| 20:31.00 | the-erm | I'm going to need to learn a lot more on how this thing works, because it's obvious a user is mounting it, just not sure how it's being done. |
| 20:31.12 | the-erm | It must be doing it with hal. |
| 20:31.32 | arpee_ong | you need to specify filesystem type and valid path like mount -t ext3 /dev/sdb1 /media/disk-1 |
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| 20:32.08 | arpee_ong | autofs |
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| 20:35.11 | sandsmark | where has all the libkipi gone? |
| 20:35.21 | pinotree | kdegraphics |
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| 20:36.15 | sandsmark | thanks |
| 20:36.21 | Maik | Hi! I cannot start an executable trough the ~/Desktop plasmoid. |
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| 20:37.02 | Maik | If I click on the "Home" button on the left and enter ~/Desktop it just works |
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| 20:37.16 | Barqs | Hi, my keyboard has multimedia keys such as play/pause, etc. And the mute button is set to mute kmix, but that does not seem to mute my system for some reason.. It actually does nothing at all. However, when I mute pulseaudio it aactually mutes my system. Is there a way to set my mute button to mute pulseaudio rather than kmix? |
| 20:38.08 | mxttie | Barqs: maybe kmix mutes the wrong channel, try changing the master channel by right-clicking on kmix |
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| 20:39.10 | Barqs | mxttie: Okay, let me try that. |
| 20:39.49 | Maik | Actually I have have an executable inside a folder which is ~/Desktop/eclipse. I open it by clicking it at the plasmoid (dophin opens) |
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| 20:40.28 | Maik | Inside the this folder I want to start the executable, but I've been asked to choose the program to open the executable file |
| 20:41.10 | Maik | If I ~/Desktop/eclipse directly via dolphin it works as expected |
| 20:41.17 | Maik | Is this a known problem? |
| 20:41.50 | Barqs | I tried every channel possible, it didn't affect it. |
| 20:41.55 | Barqs | although |
| 20:42.15 | Barqs | there were 2 of the same entries, when I selected the first, and pressed mute, it'd switch to the second automatically. |
| 20:42.51 | mxttie | Barqs: i didn't want you to trial/error :) when you have kmix fully in front of you and you press the mute button, which channel mutes? |
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| 20:43.06 | mxttie | or none? |
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| 20:44.03 | Barqs | mxttie: Only the Master Surround mutes |
| 20:44.30 | mxttie | Barqs: then you have to select the Master Surround as the master channel in kmix |
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| 20:45.27 | Barqs | mxttie: that's what it is set as, it mutes, but muting the master surround does nothing, and making it "louder" actually decreases my speaker volume |
| 20:46.04 | mxttie | Barqs: lol, ok. then I'm afraid it is something out of my league ;) did you try your distro's bugtracker/forum..? |
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| 20:48.55 | Barqs | Okay, I figured it out, PCM is what controls my system sound, but, it's not an option in master channel selection, so I right clicked it in kmix, and set a global shortcut. |
| 20:50.19 | Barqs | Um, I changed the + and - sounds to PCM aswell, but i'm guessing that the system automatically sets it as kmix's master channel. How do I remove that auto setting. |
| 20:51.20 | mxttie | Barqs: interesting, didn't know one could assign global shortcuts on a specific channel by rightclicking on it :) |
| 20:52.08 | mxttie | Barqs: maybe you still have the "global" global shortcuts set to the same buttons? |
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| 20:52.51 | Barqs | mxttie: Well, the mute button works now, just somewhere in the system there must be a master global shortcut? for raise and lower volume, and I'm assuming it's directed to kmix's master channel. |
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| 20:52.59 | Barqs | I'm not sure where to go to check this though. |
| 20:53.09 | mxttie | kde control center |
| 20:53.22 | mxttie | (checking on my laptop, don't have multimedia keys here) |
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| 20:54.24 | Barqs | mxttie: I'm checking there too, just I don't see volume controls in KDECC. |
| 20:54.51 | Kraplax | That's why i like KDE - there're so many options to play with and most of them are in KControlCenter ))) |
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| 20:56.38 | chuckh1958 | Is there a way to get non-kde applications like OpenOffice to read kde's stored samba credentials? |
| 20:57.20 | mxttie | Barqs: yeah, me neither.. I do find other multimedia keys, like XF86Homepage/forward/refresh etc under appilcation shortcuts, but none for volume |
| 20:57.28 | rohanpm | chuckh1958: do you know where those are stored? |
| 20:57.47 | rohanpm | If in kwallet, it ought to be possible in KDE4 using dbus, or KDE3 using the command line |
| 20:57.54 | Barqs | mxttie: It must be in a text file somewhere, I just have no idea where lol. :S owell, hopefully it'll pop up. |
| 20:58.16 | mxttie | Barqs: but did you check the general global shortcuts in kmix? |
| 20:58.19 | mxttie | I would disable these |
| 20:59.20 | Barqs | mxttie: I did, they where all disabled, and I right-clicked on the Master Surround and checked it's global shortcuts, they were also already disabled, weird. |
| 21:00.22 | mxttie | ok, good luck, gotta go |
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| 21:22.59 | friedrich| | uff, latest build of kde-svn (as of today) - kwin with effects doesn't render non-kdesvn apps |
| 21:23.26 | shyboy | kde french??? |
| 21:23.31 | shyboy | please |
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| 21:24.28 | pinotree | #kde-fr ? |
| 21:24.33 | shyboy | oh |
| 21:24.51 | shyboy | pinotree: thank u |
| 21:27.00 | fram | hi can I select a directory with KUrlRequester or just files? |
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| 21:27.48 | pinotree | fram: usually development questions belong to #kde-devel -- fell free to reach us there :) |
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| 21:32.34 | tzd | I'm looking for a good alternative to the rss reader akregator... any suggestions please? Used akregator but recently it's lagging like crazy :/ |
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| 22:07.48 | Nyle | firefix is sooooooooo slow |
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| 22:23.57 | Ronis_BR | hi all |
| 22:24.10 | Ronis_BR | after compiling kde svn today, plasma starts to crash on startup |
| 22:24.21 | Ronis_BR | does anyone know how i can fix it? |
| 22:24.42 | pinotree | can you please paste a backtrace in a pastebin? |
| 22:25.17 | Ronis_BR | wait |
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| 22:27.48 | Ronis_BR | pinotree: http://pastebin.org/42991 |
| 22:27.55 | Ronis_BR | it is what kde shows to me |
| 22:28.12 | pinotree | totally unuseful |
| 22:28.20 | Ronis_BR | pinotree: http://pastebin.org/42992 |
| 22:28.25 | pinotree | are you really sure you recompiled *everything* ? |
| 22:28.30 | Ronis_BR | this happens when i execute plasma on console |
| 22:28.34 | Ronis_BR | no :D |
| 22:28.48 | pinotree | see |
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| 22:30.18 | Ronis_BR | pinotree: everything, except QT |
| 22:30.38 | pinotree | even kdeplasmoids, playground, or anything like that? |
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| 22:32.11 | Ronis_BR | pinotree: yes |
| 22:32.24 | Ronis_BR | pinotree: it was working |
| 22:32.35 | Ronis_BR | pinotree: but when i deleted .kdesvn it stops |
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| 22:35.46 | Ronis_BR | pinotree: i friend sent me .kdesvn and now it is working |
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| 22:40.15 | fiendishfish | Hey |
| 22:41.34 | fiendishfish | Whenever I try view an image in Konqueror, I get errors and then a sigkill, and I checked ~/.xsession-errors and this is what I got: http://rafb.net/p/FLsrsT59.html |
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| 22:44.30 | navetz | can someone do a ls -l /dev/scd0 and tell me what it says (if your cdrom is located at scd0 that is) |
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| 22:46.37 | fiendishfish | brw-rw---- 1 root cdrom 11, 0 2008-06-10 20:02 /dev/scd0 |
| 22:47.40 | fiendishfish | navetz, ^ |
| 22:48.22 | navetz | fiendishfish: thanks mine looks like that to but I can't burn cd's/dvd's |
| 22:48.39 | fiendishfish | :/ |
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| 22:50.20 | halphaz_ | hello |
| 22:50.22 | fiendishfish | Hi |
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| 23:14.42 | pyther | Hi |
| 23:14.58 | onesandzeros | does anyone here use KsCD? It doesn't seem to be looking up track titles... |
| 23:15.14 | pyther | Does anyone know of a way to export a list of the titles on an audio cd, that I'll be burning, using k3b? |
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| 23:20.15 | troy | onesandzeros: haven't used kscd in years - I ripped all my discs to flac, and play them in amarok these days :) |
| 23:20.59 | onesandzeros | troy: ok. funny you should mention amarok. name lookup seems to work, but it does it as each track is played. I'll ask in #amarok. |
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