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| 00:51.10 | HockeyInJune | Where does KDE store the layout for Kicker Applications Menu? |
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| 00:52.35 | Fujisan | kbeagle it |
| 00:52.38 | Fujisan | HockeyInJune |
| 00:54.07 | HockeyInJune | Um, What? |
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| 01:00.06 | lsemple | gosh |
| 01:00.27 | lsemple | KDE doesnt work well with multi users |
| 01:01.03 | g2g591 | lsemple: and why do you say that? |
| 01:01.15 | lsemple | does anyone here have problems when switching between multiple users ? |
| 01:01.29 | g2g591 | not I. never have |
| 01:01.54 | g2g591 | not in 3.5 or 4.x |
| 01:02.23 | lsemple | because sometimes when I leave my computer, my wife switches over to her accout (ctrl alt f9), I come back to find that there are two of her sessions open |
| 01:03.06 | g2g591 | lsemple: hmm I never tried having two users operating AT THE same time, let me check that |
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| 01:03.54 | lsemple | its only once in a while |
| 01:04.38 | g2g591 | ill test it in SVN KDE (what will be 4.1) |
| 01:04.38 | lsemple | I come back to find that there are two of her sessions open, and mine has dissapeared |
| 01:04.49 | coteyr | heres a question for you. how do I get a panel to not be on top all the time (so I can have panels and still have maximized windows take up the full screen) |
| 01:04.52 | g2g591 | strange |
| 01:04.55 | coteyr | kde 4 btw |
| 01:05.08 | lsemple | especially strange because this is a brand new installation as of last night |
| 01:05.35 | lsemple | I had the exact same problem before I reinstalled to kubuntu (from kanotix) |
| 01:05.42 | angasule | coteyr: isn't there autohide? :? |
| 01:06.00 | g2g591 | coteyr: right click on the window titlebar and Advanced -> Keep above others works |
| 01:06.30 | g2g591 | angasule: no, no autohide in 4.x (including 4.1) yet, as far as I can find |
| 01:06.46 | coteyr | angasule not yet that i can see, g2g591; even if that makes the window above the panel wouldn't that pretty much screw up notmal window managment (unless I did it to every window" |
| 01:07.20 | g2g591 | coteyr: well, yes, but, how many maximized windows will you have |
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| 01:07.37 | g2g591 | coteyr: oh, and for firefox, f11 makes it cover up panel |
| 01:07.59 | coteyr | I looked at the containment's options, and it has to be possibal because the "desktop" is just a cointainment. (or at least that makes sense to me but the file aritexture is a bit new to me and I can't find docs yet) |
| 01:08.12 | coteyr | g2g591 several at a time |
| 01:09.07 | coteyr | g2g5991 and I couldn't, say maximize firefox and then have a small kate window ontop of it so refrencing api docs and such (thats pretty common) |
| 01:09.58 | coteyr | or say have kate doing rails eiditing and konsole running webrick and then firefox for checking the layout |
| 01:10.08 | g2g591 | coteyr: im looking for something better right now |
| 01:10.08 | coteyr | at least not without making all of the windows always on top |
| 01:10.46 | coteyr | love the new kae btw |
| 01:10.50 | coteyr | kate |
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| 01:12.34 | g2g591 | coteyr: well, cant find anything right now in that 2 min of searching. :( and this was in 4.1 svn too |
| 01:12.56 | coteyr | yeah I am still hunting |
| 01:13.03 | coteyr | it's like the last little thing |
| 01:15.15 | coteyr | hmm |
| 01:15.17 | coteyr | thats odd |
| 01:15.19 | coteyr | but better |
| 01:15.32 | coteyr | if i make location = 2 it gets coverd. |
| 01:15.40 | coteyr | It's not usable yet |
| 01:15.44 | coteyr | but theres hope |
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| 01:17.30 | _ZeuZ_ | How is kcontrol called in kde4.1 ? |
| 01:17.40 | coteyr | systemsettings |
| 01:17.50 | coteyr | no kcontrol that I can see |
| 01:18.44 | _ZeuZ_ | systemsettings sounds more like something that came from *buntu |
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| 01:20.51 | bedi | hello, isn't kde4 konquero's suporting adobe flash ? |
| 01:21.13 | _ZeuZ_ | bedi, it should... |
| 01:21.34 | bedi | hmm, im using .81 |
| 01:21.53 | _ZeuZ_ | so you're using kde 4.1 beta |
| 01:21.53 | coteyr | I think I have a fix, kinda g2g591. I used location = 0 (which I think is invalid) and it made the panel not allocate the space then I used Window behavios to say it's always on the bottom |
| 01:21.55 | _ZeuZ_ | right? |
| 01:22.44 | g2g591 | nah thats svn |
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| 01:22.54 | g2g591 | i have that snapshot too, let me check it |
| 01:23.44 | bedi | _ZeuZ_: yep |
| 01:23.55 | g2g591 | bedi: it works here |
| 01:24.18 | coteyr | oh heres a quick question. Is there a way to get the task manager plasmoid (outside the panel) to make rows not columns |
| 01:24.23 | bedi | is also listed on about:plugins |
| 01:24.27 | coteyr | (did that make sense |
| 01:24.31 | HockeyInJune | Where does KDE store the layout for Kicker Applications Menu? |
| 01:24.51 | coteyr | sorry but with all the kde buzz about kde 4 it's had to google for much of anything |
| 01:24.56 | lsemple | anyone else here have issues running two users at the same time ? |
| 01:25.18 | coteyr | lsemple 2 seesons fo the same user or 2 completly diffrent users? |
| 01:25.19 | g2g591 | bedi: it works fine here. kdebase is at revision 819980 |
| 01:25.35 | g2g591 | bedi: oh wait, i have .82 |
| 01:25.38 | lsemple | coteyr: two different users |
| 01:26.03 | coteyr | lsemple; then no, I do that pretty constantly and haven't noticed anythign I could atribute to it |
| 01:26.06 | lsemple | what happens is when my wife goes into her acct, sometimes it will "forget" or somehow shut off my account |
| 01:26.13 | _ZeuZ_ | I have had like 8 crashes from .81 coming from plasma, related to the dock, when resizing it, or moving it |
| 01:26.21 | _ZeuZ_ | also kwin seems to fail pretty much a ton |
| 01:26.46 | lsemple | then when I go to switch back to mine using ctrl alt f7, it goes into a newly loaded session of her account |
| 01:26.48 | coteyr | lsemple; when switching users? or using alt+ctrl+f8 etc |
| 01:27.13 | g2g591 | _ZeuZ_: well check to see if it still crashes when beta 2 comes out, I can resize just fine on SVN |
| 01:27.22 | lsemple | ctrl alt f7 ect, I am thinking maybe I will tell her to just lock mine before switching to hers |
| 01:27.30 | _ZeuZ_ | g2g591, guess I'll have to update and rebuild |
| 01:27.34 | lsemple | instead of using crly alt f7/f8 |
| 01:27.40 | _ZeuZ_ | what about the auto-loggin feature? |
| 01:28.18 | coteyr | brb |
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| 01:29.37 | lsemple | is there any way to prevent my account from being killed ? |
| 01:30.22 | _ZeuZ_ | lsemple, killed? |
| 01:31.02 | lsemple | yeah, its like it gets killed once in a while whenever my wife switches over to her account |
| 01:31.15 | lsemple | I've had this problem on two different linux installations |
| 01:31.33 | lsemple | killed, crashed whatever you want to call it |
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| 01:32.14 | _ZeuZ_ | lsemple, I guess you'll have to wait till that's fixed |
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| 01:43.09 | _ZeuZ_ | is there something like klaptop for kde 4.1 beta .81 ? |
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| 01:56.56 | jaldhar | hello I have a problem with konqueror. kcookiejar4 seems to have crashed so it is not accepting cookies anymore. How do I get kcookiejar4 working again. (Simply running it doesn't work.) |
| 01:57.21 | jaldhar | I'm using kubuntu hardy with KDE 4.1beta if it makes a difference. |
| 01:58.06 | jaldhar | Btw in the past I've got it working by logging out and then back in but I'd like to avoid that. |
| 01:58.16 | DanielW | is kded4 still running? |
| 01:58.29 | DanielW | if not start start it |
| 01:58.32 | DanielW | -start |
| 01:58.45 | jaldhar | DanielW: yes. Even konqueror. Just not the cookie jar |
| 01:59.34 | DanielW | ok i do not no anything about cookie jar. a few weeks ago kded4 was very unstable and when ever it crashed konqueror refused to store cookies |
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| 02:00.00 | DanielW | but there is a kcookiejar4 process?!? |
| 02:01.13 | miguel_ | hi all |
| 02:02.11 | jaldhar | DanielW: there ought to be one started from kinit but it isn't there anymore. I'm assuiming it crashed but there is nothing in any logs or .xsession-errors |
| 02:02.25 | jaldhar | s/kinit/kdeinit/ |
| 02:02.27 | DanielW | i think you have to start kded4 |
| 02:02.34 | DanielW | but well i may be wrong |
| 02:02.58 | miguel_ | Do anyone speak spanish?? |
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| 02:03.42 | miguel_ | I have a problem with kdm |
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| 02:05.06 | jaldhar | DanielW: ok even though kded4 was already running I started it again and now cookies work. I hope having two kded4 running won't hurt anything |
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| 02:05.24 | DanielW | you can not have two of them |
| 02:05.40 | DanielW | KDE Daemon (kded) already running. <- it says when it is already running |
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| 02:06.01 | dMaggot | miguel_: what problem |
| 02:06.10 | naught101 | is there an "official" battery monitor for kde? |
| 02:06.12 | _ZeuZ_ | miguel_, yo |
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| 02:06.19 | _ZeuZ_ | miguel_, pero este no es lugar para hablar espa;ol |
| 02:06.40 | miguel_ | hola kdm no me reconoce que no muestre los usuarios |
| 02:06.47 | DanielW | naught101: kde4? |
| 02:07.00 | naught101 | DanielW: no, kde3 |
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| 02:07.22 | DanielW | naught101: i think there is one. i always had this battery thing there. |
| 02:07.40 | naught101 | DanielW: there's a number of them, I'm just wondering if one of them is official |
| 02:08.19 | DanielW | naught101: the one which ships with kde i think... |
| 02:08.22 | _ZeuZ_ | miguel_, que te digo que aca es en ingles xD |
| 02:08.42 | naught101 | DanielW: right, but I don't know that, because I don't use a standard kde |
| 02:08.49 | naught101 | I use the kde from my distro |
| 02:08.56 | DanielW | oh sorry |
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| 02:09.14 | coteyr | well that took longer then expected apperenly overlapping pannels = bad |
| 02:10.02 | miguel_ | the problem is that when i change kdmrc the changes don't have effect |
| 02:10.05 | dMaggot | any one has any idea if there's any particular KDE library for embedded KPDF, Konqueror, etc?? |
| 02:10.28 | dMaggot | I'm trying to use embedded visualizers in Kile and it throws "Could not find the library" error |
| 02:10.33 | coteyr | miguel_ silly question did you restart kdm and not just x |
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| 02:11.02 | miguel_ | I restart the pc |
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| 02:15.33 | flyback | wtf do I do in krdc to reconnect to a session |
| 02:15.38 | coteyr | miguel_ hmm just for fun add a breaking change (that will make sure your edding the right file) |
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| 02:18.14 | miguel_ | i have one file /etc/kde/kdm/kdmrc |
| 02:18.32 | miguel_ | I have installed kd4 on fedora9 |
| 02:20.10 | coteyr | miguel_if you enter nonsense into the file does it still function (back it up first of course) |
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| 02:20.46 | coteyr | how do I use a max widget? lol Trying to test that function. |
| 02:21.01 | coteyr | I think I got some html only widgets |
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| 02:23.37 | ki_ | Can i get a recommendation on a good KDE php editor that i can open and store projects in, etc ... |
| 02:24.27 | coteyr | ki_ kate ;) |
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| 02:25.28 | coteyr | if you don't like kate then theres a pretty common one, starts with an a, give me a sec |
| 02:26.23 | _ZeuZ_ | or just nano/vim |
| 02:27.19 | ki_ | i'm not good enought o use vim yet |
| 02:27.23 | ki_ | vim i am learning tho |
| 02:27.45 | coteyr | ki_ can't find the other one, kate should do for ya though. Its pretty nice I turned it into a rail editing envirment complete with svn support and all in a few mins |
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| 02:28.13 | Jucato | Quanta+? |
| 02:29.36 | coteyr | that sounds fimular too |
| 02:30.10 | ki_ | quanta eh? |
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| 02:33.17 | coteyr | stick with kate |
| 02:33.18 | coteyr | lol |
| 02:33.29 | coteyr | stick with kate, katepart is awsome. |
| 02:33.58 | coteyr | and qickly switching from php to js to sql to just about everything is very under-rated |
| 02:34.23 | ki_ | katepart? |
| 02:34.40 | coteyr | the "peice" of kate/kde that renders text |
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| 02:35.04 | coteyr | its shared in alot of kde apps like kdevelop and kwrite and such |
| 02:35.14 | coteyr | not sure if it's in kmail but it would supprise me |
| 02:35.22 | coteyr | wouldn't* |
| 02:36.18 | coteyr | not to methion kate supports kio:slaves lol |
| 02:36.28 | coteyr | i have edited stuff directly from svn before |
| 02:36.31 | DanielW | every kde app does that? |
| 02:36.51 | coteyr | file -> open -> svn://svnserver/file.php |
| 02:37.01 | coteyr | oh look taht worked |
| 02:37.20 | DanielW | i know. i just wanted to make clear, that not only kate can do that, but every kde app |
| 02:37.27 | coteyr | oh |
| 02:37.29 | coteyr | yeah |
| 02:37.33 | coteyr | every kde app can do that |
| 02:37.45 | coteyr | I was kidna saying because kate is kde you get kio |
| 02:37.59 | coteyr | not you get kio because you use kate sorry |
| 02:38.05 | DanielW | quanta+ using to edit php/html direct on the server over sftp :-) |
| 02:38.45 | coteyr | favorite so far is ssh://server:/var/html/file.php |
| 02:39.21 | coteyr | it's bad enough that some times I forget when I not on the servers vlan and try to edit them. |
| 02:40.02 | coteyr | be back later, good luck with your php ide |
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| 02:44.09 | ki_ | how do i start a project in kate? do i just the file browser part instead of loading a whole directory into a session? |
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| 03:08.39 | DHowett | I'm on battery power and the KDE4 battery modules just say "n/a". Is there something I need running? Oh. Hold on, I think I know |
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| 03:21.14 | _ZeuZ_ | hehe you're better than me though |
| 03:21.23 | adan | mexico |
| 03:21.38 | _ZeuZ_ | on KDE 4.1 build .81 I don't even have the battery modules |
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| 03:24.03 | g2g591 | svn all the way man |
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| 03:44.36 | hdevalence | If I want to request a feature can I file as a bug as "wishlist" ? |
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| 03:49.54 | skreech | Anyone can suggest a small KDE distro? |
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| 03:50.33 | skreech | one that runs in > 100 megs of RAM |
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| 03:59.12 | supert0nes | does the kde svn have a problem rendering transparent taskbars for nvidia cards? |
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| 03:59.57 | jazka | supert0nes: what do you mean? |
| 04:00.05 | jazka | I have an nvidia and my panel is transparent |
| 04:00.10 | supert0nes | hmm |
| 04:00.16 | supert0nes | in 4.1 beta i get a transparent beta |
| 04:00.23 | supert0nes | i mean transparent panel |
| 04:00.29 | supert0nes | but in the nightly build |
| 04:00.34 | supert0nes | i can't get that |
| 04:00.34 | jazka | try setting the theme, kquitapp plasma;plasma & |
| 04:00.39 | jazka | that fixes it for me |
| 04:00.41 | supert0nes | ok |
| 04:01.17 | supert0nes | ya that worked thanks a lot |
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| 04:12.37 | n3kl | Can someone please tell me how to install a plasma theme jon kde4? |
| 04:13.05 | DanielW | n3kl: 4.0? |
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| 04:13.41 | n3kl | I think its 4.1 |
| 04:14.08 | n3kl | I am a long time kde 3.x user, but this is a whole new world |
| 04:15.15 | DanielW | n3kl: if it is 4.1 (beta or svn build) you can just right click on your desktop select desktop settings |
| 04:15.28 | DanielW | there is a button "new theme" |
| 04:15.38 | DanielW | that loads themes from kde-looks.org |
| 04:15.49 | DanielW | -s |
| 04:16.08 | DanielW | so you can directly download and install them from that settings dialog |
| 04:16.56 | n3kl | My mistake |
| 04:17.06 | n3kl | its 4.0.3 |
| 04:18.16 | DanielW | ok then maybe there a packages for your distro with themes in it? if not take a look on www.kde-look.org i believe some of the authors of the themes explain there how to install them |
| 04:18.17 | n3kl | Is there like a guide or somethign I shoudl read |
| 04:18.31 | n3kl | alright |
| 04:18.46 | DanielW | or just try to get the beta 1 of kde 4.1 |
| 04:19.02 | n3kl | DanielW: is it stable? |
| 04:19.10 | n3kl | ish? |
| 04:20.03 | jazka | I'd say it's a lot better than 4.0.x |
| 04:20.04 | n3kl | Also, what is this plasmiod stuff? Is that like the karamba replacement? |
| 04:20.14 | DanielW | well from my point of you it is more stable than 4.0 and it gives lot better experience. but well it is a beta. |
| 04:20.38 | DanielW | it can replace superkaramba but it is more |
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| 04:21.01 | troy | n3kl: it's a little more than just that :) the whole desktop is made of it, including the taskbar and other bits... |
| 04:21.03 | DanielW | the panel and the desktop is plasma too |
| 04:21.42 | jazka | sadly beta1 has the task manager pixmap leak bug tho ^^ |
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| 04:21.50 | jazka | or just wait for beta2, it's out soon |
| 04:22.04 | troy | builds from sources, didn't know there was a problem :) |
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| 04:28.28 | n3kl | I am updating my kubuntu now |
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| 04:49.16 | VanessaE | ok, stupid question... is there an applet out there that can replace the dock application bar, but which itself 'docks' into a regular panel? |
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| 05:27.00 | VanessaE | ok, stupid question... is there an applet out there that docks into a normal panel, that can replace the dock application bar? |
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| 05:30.15 | fde | VanessaE: Wanna try to reword that, I don't get what you mean at all. You're not even specifying KDE version or anything. What do you mean by each use of the word "dock"? |
| 05:31.15 | VanessaE | in KDE 3.5.xx you have a regular panel for buttons, etc. and you have the dock application bar that's used for WM and AS applets. |
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| 05:32.03 | VanessaE | I'm trying to find a way to replace the dock app bar with something that embeds itself in the regular panel, so I can treat the panel and the docked apps as a single unit |
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| 05:32.48 | fde | VanessaE: What distro are you using? Are you talking about the quicklaunch applet or something? |
| 05:32.51 | VanessaE | gentoo. |
| 05:33.00 | VanessaE | no... |
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| 05:33.14 | smAs | is there a way to sort the programs (by name A-Z) in Kmenu --> ??? KDE |
| 05:33.17 | fde | There is no "dock app bar" in the KDE panel. |
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| 05:33.38 | VanessaE | fde: I know - it is a separate panel. I want to make that not be the case :) |
| 05:34.05 | fde | VanessaE: You wanna throw a screenshot up online somewhere so I can see what you're talking about? |
| 05:34.30 | fde | smAs: No, although it is done by default unless you moved something. |
| 05:35.12 | Jucato | VanessaE: no I don't think the dock application panel is available as an applet |
| 05:35.36 | VanessaE | Jucato: I figured as much...which is why I was looking for an alternative. |
| 05:35.38 | Jucato | fde: the extra Dock Application panel in kicker, the one that is used for WindowMaker stuff |
| 05:35.52 | fde | Jucato: What is it? I've never even heard of such a thing, and I've been using KDE since 2.x |
| 05:36.06 | fde | Jucato: That has a different name... kxbar or something |
| 05:36.11 | Jucato | no nono |
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| 05:36.17 | VanessaE | fde: right click, Add New Panel, Dock Application Bar |
| 05:36.21 | Jucato | fde: right-click on kicker -> Add Panel -> Dock Application Bar |
| 05:36.22 | VanessaE | then start a few windowmaker applets. |
| 05:36.25 | Jucato | kasbar is different |
| 05:36.27 | fde | VanessaE: Umm, I use KDE 4.1 atm |
| 05:36.40 | Jucato | so how are you going to know what it is? :P |
| 05:36.42 | fde | Jucato: Yeah, that's what I meant, hah |
| 05:36.58 | VanessaE | well, in 3.5.x :) |
| 05:37.08 | Jucato | it's completely different from kasbar, which is simply just a fancy (but really really old) tasbkar |
| 05:37.11 | VanessaE | avoids any of the kde4 series...not ready to switch yet. |
| 05:37.11 | Jucato | taskbar* |
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| 05:37.54 | fde | VanessaE: 4.0.82 is really nice, the released stuff is umm... idk how to word it and not be offensive |
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| 05:38.11 | VanessaE | go ahead, I'm not exactly virgin ears/eyes here. :) |
| 05:38.32 | Jucato | fde: http://docs.kde.org/kde3/en/kdebase/kicker/dock-application-bar-extension.html |
| 05:38.39 | Jucato | no pics though |
| 05:38.39 | fde | VanessaE: But people might be idling that put a lot of work into it... needless to say I didn't like it much. |
| 05:38.55 | aseigo | fde: how about "a necessary step towards getting you the very nice releases"? |
| 05:39.20 | VanessaE | haha |
| 05:39.29 | VanessaE | that's a good way to put it. |
| 05:39.37 | aseigo | that was exactly what it was. |
| 05:39.39 | fde | aseigo: That works :) I really do like the changes made for 4.1 though, your hard work is very much appreciated here :) |
| 05:39.41 | aseigo | we knew that when 4.0 wen tout |
| 05:39.47 | aseigo | we know that now. |
| 05:39.53 | aseigo | it would be awesome for people to realize that. |
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| 05:40.12 | Jucato | and we'll try really hard to remind people when KDE 5.0 comes out a century from now :) |
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| 05:40.40 | fde | aseigo: Yeah, it was very much a technology preview more than a real release... using the beta stuff is more stable than 4.0 was initially after release too... but I guess that shows exactly why you guys did what you did :) |
| 05:40.40 | VanessaE | hahaha |
| 05:40.54 | aseigo | fde: yep. |
| 05:41.06 | Jucato | aseigo: I guess most people (are spoiled?) expect KDE 4.0 to be something like a new distro release or a Windows release... complete and just needs service packs :) |
| 05:41.51 | Jucato | reading a bit about the history of OS X, I think it more closely compares to KDE 4's releases... 10.0 sucked and each release got better... etc |
| 05:42.04 | fde | aseigo: I did realize that, I read all about your perspective in your blogs... but I was more meaning to support VanessaE's choice not using 4.0.x yet, but sort of recommending the betas |
| 05:42.05 | aseigo | it's a more agile style, yes |
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| 05:42.50 | aseigo | much different than a monolithic release (which vista shows how much that works) .. and certainly not about marketing but about Getting There from a project mngmnt POV |
| 05:43.16 | aseigo | fde: yeah, people recommending the betas actually makes me smile =) |
| 05:43.42 | aseigo | fde: if only because it says it's generally working as a process and we're getting to where we need to be |
| 05:43.49 | Jucato | aseigo: well, KDE 4 is a revolutionary breakthrough!! the current beta is much better than the current stable :) |
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| 05:44.12 | fde | aseigo: I think you guys did a good job of getting the word out, I think people kinda expected 4.0.1+ to be a polished release though, where in reality it will be 4.1.x that is the polished thing. |
| 05:44.29 | Jucato | aseigo: oh quick question... where did the folderview plasmoid go to? I just rebuild kdebase and now it's gone. not in kdeplasmoids either |
| 05:44.40 | aseigo | Jucato: kdebase-apps |
| 05:44.51 | VanessaE | my husband's been toying with 4.1...he's not happy with it :) |
| 05:44.54 | Jucato | fde: the 4.0.x releases are basically maintenance/bugfix releases |
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| 05:45.05 | Jucato | not major feature additions |
| 05:45.10 | aseigo | fde: hm. that's an interesting observation. 4.0.1 coming out a month after 4.0.0; that would've been a freaking amazing accomplishment ;0 |
| 05:45.27 | Jucato | aseigo: hm... I rebuilt all of kdebase/apps and yet... oh well... I'll figure this out later :) |
| 05:45.32 | aseigo | fde: perhaps there's room there for more explanation of our numbering system then |
| 05:45.37 | fde | aseigo: I think you are indeed... my current only complaint is resizing the panel height, some of my icons aren't showing entirely... but that's about it. Also, I don't see anywhere in SystemSettings to manage printers... I think it was switched to QPrint, but still there is no interface for it. |
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| 05:46.02 | aseigo | fde: it's in.. *thinks* kdeadmin i think? |
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| 05:46.11 | aseigo | fde: but we do have a printer config |
| 05:46.19 | fde | aseigo: I think explaining it now would be wasted effort, I think the time could be better spent making 4.1 kick as much butt as possible! |
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| 05:47.14 | fde | aseigo: hmm... I guess that's not shipped in SUSE then... it obeyed yast, so I'm happy. Hopefully other distro's actually include that module though because that's where I expected the printer stuff to be. |
| 05:47.22 | VanessaE | the big issue I have is the svg rendering engine is slow (see kbounce, etc) |
| 05:47.50 | Jucato | only kdiamonds is slow for me. kbounce is quite fast |
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| 05:48.11 | VanessaE | try it maximized on a 1600x1200 display |
| 05:48.27 | fde | (I'm not actually a SUSE user normally, but no other distro has particularly good KDE4 support, and compiling TRUNK seems sort of daunting. |
| 05:48.29 | fde | ) |
| 05:48.40 | aseigo | VanessaE: actually, that's not the svg stuff. that's the QGraphicsView 2D canvas |
| 05:48.44 | VanessaE | no big deal, I'm sure that stuff will be ironed out sooner or later. |
| 05:49.08 | VanessaE | aseigo: oh? |
| 05:49.27 | aseigo | VanessaE: yeah; the svgs are rendered once into pixmaps and then those are animated about |
| 05:49.49 | aseigo | VanessaE: so while the svgs may take a few seconds depending on the svg and your system, it's a one time cost levied on window resizing |
| 05:50.00 | fde | aseigo: Any plans for changing panel height btw? The new default theme looks gorgeous when you resize the width to something smaller than the default, but I see no way to change height. |
| 05:50.28 | aseigo | fde: click and drag on the top edge of the controller |
| 05:50.35 | aseigo | fde: it has those little "draggy" circle things. |
| 05:50.52 | aseigo | fde: and yeah, we know it's not obvious. working on ways to make it more apparent that you can click and drag on that |
| 05:50.57 | VanessaE | and I take it the code that handles moving those rendered images around is where the fix is needed? |
| 05:52.06 | fde | aseigo: I think the way you've done the width is better... people are more used to it cuz of word processors etc... maybe just the triangles at the top though, else it'll look packed... |
| 05:52.25 | fde | probably on the inside of the panel though, else they'll be off screen |
| 05:53.18 | fde | Or just have that bar at the top of the panel, under the configurator thinger... cuz that's what I tried first... didn't even occur to me to try going to the top of that, cuz I wasn't trying to resize the confurator... |
| 05:53.52 | aseigo | yeah, moving it to the top of the panel is a real possibility.. |
| 05:54.05 | aseigo | though that's also where i want to add the applet move handles |
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| 05:54.36 | Jucato | I;m sure you'll be able to think up of something good :) |
| 05:54.43 | Jucato | but I guess not for 4.1 right? |
| 05:54.50 | fde | aseigo: I think the way Enlightenment 0.17 does moving of applets is good, have you checked that out at all? |
| 05:55.00 | VanessaE | I just hope, with all of these changes, I will still be able to make kde4 look like 3.5 :-) |
| 05:55.19 | aseigo | fde: yeah.. |
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| 05:55.36 | fde | aseigo: The overall environment isn't that great, but I think what enlightenment does would fit in well with what you appear to be trying to do. |
| 05:55.39 | aseigo | VanessaE: you can make it as subtle and boring as you like =) |
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| 05:55.46 | VanessaE | aseigo: good. :) |
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| 05:56.28 | VanessaE | I like eye candy and all, but too much of it tends to cause clutter and slow performance. |
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| 05:57.02 | Jucato | *if* it causes clutter and slow performance :) |
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| 05:57.08 | fde | aseigo: Also, for consistencies sake, what about the simple borders that go around plasmoids on the desktop? Just surround them in the panel, but no resize... sort of the same idea. |
| 05:57.11 | VanessaE | heh |
| 05:57.25 | aseigo | fde: not really enough space for those... |
| 05:57.35 | Jucato | wonders why there seems to be a presumption that "pretty" and "usable" are mutually exclusive... :( |
| 05:57.48 | aseigo | or pretty and light |
| 05:57.58 | VanessaE | am I right to guess that a lot of the functionality that was added has to do with multitouch and similar displays? |
| 05:58.04 | fde | aseigo: They could move as you go over each plasmoid though... and cover others that they're not working with, just like on the desktop... so they only show when you mouse over when editing the panel |
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| 05:58.48 | Jucato | VanessaE: not really, but iirc one of aseigo's points for the plasmoid handles had to do with devices that didn't have a "right-click" way :) |
| 05:58.56 | fde | aseigo: The panel should just be more of a docking area for plasmoids, no reason to make it overly complicated and lose consistency points. |
| 05:58.59 | VanessaE | oh ok |
| 06:00.03 | Jucato | (of course, it's awesome that KDE is now taking into consideration such devices and gadgets... "skalability" ;) |
| 06:00.09 | aseigo | fde: that's the idea (docking area) .. the issue is making it work spaceise.. but whatever.. |
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| 06:03.35 | fde | aseigo: I'm sure you'll come up with something exellent, just a suggestion. Trying to overly rethink things when you already have good answers elsewhere seems silly to me. |
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| 06:04.21 | fde | aseigo: Then maybe you have things in mind that haven't occured to me, so maybe my thinking is flawed. |
| 06:04.53 | aseigo | shrugs |
| 06:05.00 | aseigo | fde: it's all good input. we'll see where it ends up = |
| 06:05.01 | aseigo | =) |
| 06:05.35 | fde | aseigo: Alright, thats probably the best and most enjoyable part of open source :) |
| 06:05.49 | Jucato | nah |
| 06:05.57 | Jucato | kbounce is the most enjoyable part of open source :) |
| 06:06.13 | aseigo | kgoldrunner is. =P |
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| 06:06.27 | fde | Jucato: bah, I played that game for like 5 hours straight once... it just kept giving me more levels... I'm scared of it now :$ |
| 06:06.51 | Jucato | heheh |
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| 06:25.19 | steven | hi |
| 06:25.34 | steven | where is here |
| 06:25.43 | thiago_home | the #kde channel on Freenode |
| 06:25.50 | steven | thanks |
| 06:26.08 | steven | what are you doing |
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| 06:27.09 | DHowett | How would I change the background colour of the plasma dashboard? When i started with KDE4, it was black/grey and translucent, and now it's white. Or, is that related to having like "Fade" turned on |
| 06:27.16 | thiago_home | getting ready to go to work |
| 06:27.29 | thiago_home | DHowett: do you mean the panel? |
| 06:27.33 | Jucato | is punching some apes in order to raise his skill level |
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| 06:28.02 | fde | DHowett: Right click the desktop > Configure Desktop > Desktop Theme at the bottom? Maybe one of those has a background you prefer? |
| 06:28.21 | DHowett | Nah |
| 06:28.25 | DHowett | the dashboard, control-F12 |
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| 06:28.40 | thiago_home | has never used that one |
| 06:28.44 | grundleborg | Jucato: in real life? |
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| 06:28.52 | Jucato | hahah :) |
| 06:29.05 | Jucato | DHowett: I think it depends on whether you have desktop effects enabled or not |
| 06:29.11 | DHowett | I like to have the background turned on for the plasmoids on my desktop, since it looks .. well, nice. Since some time (probably changing composite-related settings), the background is white and it looks bad |
| 06:29.19 | DHowett | Jucato: THought so.. i'll check it out, thanks |
| 06:29.19 | Fujisan | Jucato |
| 06:29.40 | Fujisan | my pal ^^ |
| 06:29.41 | Jucato | thiago_home: kinda useful, except that Ctrl+F12 is a bit too far too reach... wish it could be triggered by hitting a corner :/ |
| 06:30.08 | Fujisan | Jucato how do i install new plasmoids? |
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| 06:30.27 | Fujisan | i wont a euro football schedule plasmoid i dunno how to install |
| 06:30.27 | Fujisan | :( |
| 06:30.33 | Fujisan | want* |
| 06:30.37 | Jucato | um... not sure in KDE 4.0 |
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| 06:31.01 | Fujisan | no i use KDE on windows |
| 06:31.03 | Fujisan | Jucato |
| 06:31.08 | Fujisan | via andLinux |
| 06:31.09 | Jucato | there is no plasma on Windows |
| 06:31.12 | Fujisan | yes |
| 06:31.13 | Jucato | afaik |
| 06:31.23 | Fujisan | http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/4771/kde4onvistajz4.png <-- my andLinux |
| 06:31.24 | Fujisan | see |
| 06:31.27 | Fujisan | i dont lie |
| 06:31.40 | annma | where do you see one? |
| 06:31.46 | annma | what would a euro plasmoid do? |
| 06:31.48 | annma | Fujisan: what would a euro plasmoid do? |
| 06:32.00 | annma | I can do one: a label with: France will win! |
| 06:32.07 | Fujisan | haha |
| 06:32.12 | Fujisan | no i am in Holland |
| 06:32.16 | Fujisan | Holland will win D: |
| 06:32.23 | annma | no way |
| 06:32.34 | annma | the future is not orange |
| 06:32.38 | Fujisan | annma we play 3-0 versus France |
| 06:32.38 | annma | ;) |
| 06:32.42 | Jucato | Fujisan: you'll have to find out for yourself. I don't know andLinux |
| 06:32.55 | Jucato | Fujisan: and in KDE 4.0 you'll have to do int manually. in 4.1 there a button to do it |
| 06:33.33 | Fujisan | oh |
| 06:34.08 | Fujisan | andLinux is just Kubuntu running on colinux kernel port |
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| 06:34.55 | DHowett1 | Hm, I can't figure out which one it is. |
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| 06:35.29 | Jucato | DHowett1: which one is what? |
| 06:36.00 | DHowett1 | Which desktop effect or other configuration related to effects controls that |
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| 06:36.43 | Jucato | DHowett1: oh.. what version of KDE 4? |
| 06:36.51 | DHowett1 | 4.0.82 >_> |
| 06:36.56 | Jucato | hm... |
| 06:37.07 | DHowett1 | approximately last night's SVN |
| 06:37.30 | Fujisan | Jucato btw i am running kde for windows but andLinux just has Oxygen icons i have KDE 3.5 via andLinux just with KDE 4 icons so how do i install plasmoids? |
| 06:37.34 | Jucato | DHowett1: I'm on the same thing. even with Desktop Effects off, I still get the normal desktop wallpaper when I do Ctrl+F12 |
| 06:37.43 | DHowett1 | hmm.. |
| 06:40.12 | thiago_home | Fujisan: your sentences don't make sense. |
| 06:40.15 | thiago_home | Fujisan: can you rephrase? |
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| 06:43.40 | DHowett2 | hmm, adding themes via Get Hot New Stuff works, but adding widgets doesn't (when I click "Add new widgets> From internet") |
| 06:43.54 | Fujisan | ok i have kde 3.5 and i want to get some widgets are they called superkaramba or plasmoids and how do i install the app for widgets? |
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| 06:54.17 | DHowett | KDE won't save my keymaps. At least, It won't save my special keys (XF86VolumeMute, etc.). |
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| 06:55.47 | annma | where do you set them? |
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| 06:56.17 | DHowett | Mouse & Keyboard |
| 06:56.23 | Dumble | hello world ! |
| 06:57.41 | annma | DHowett: see if $KDEHOME/share/config/kglobalshortcutsrc is written |
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| 06:58.10 | annma | DHowett: save it to .bak and change a key and diff it |
| 06:58.55 | Fujisan | ok i have kde 3.5 and i want to get some widgets are they called superkaramba or plasmoids and how do i install the app for widgets? |
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| 07:01.21 | DHowett | annma: Yep, they're saving |
| 07:01.59 | annma | so, they are not read? |
| 07:02.11 | DHowett | It seems like only the specific keys I set get wiped out |
| 07:02.14 | Fujisan | hey can somebody help me please D: |
| 07:02.19 | Fujisan | :'( |
| 07:02.26 | Fujisan | meanies |
| 07:02.29 | Fujisan | ignoring me |
| 07:02.46 | aseigo | Fujisan: you can either install superkaramba from source or use your operating system's packages for it |
| 07:03.01 | aseigo | Fujisan: then you run "superkaramba" and away you go |
| 07:03.04 | annma | Fujisan: ask your distro channel to knwo what they provide for you |
| 07:03.05 | Fujisan | i have superkaramba installed so how do i install additional widgets for it? |
| 07:03.28 | Fujisan | annma if you cant help me dont speak to me |
| 07:03.29 | annma | did you install it with your distro |
| 07:03.33 | aseigo | Fujisan: download them from kde-look.org, open the Add Widgets dialog in superkaramba, install it from there |
| 07:03.51 | Fujisan | annma tonight Holland will beat France and you will think of me ^^ |
| 07:04.00 | Fujisan | ty aseigo |
| 07:04.03 | annma | lol Fujisan |
| 07:04.17 | Fujisan | we beat italy 3-0 |
| 07:04.19 | Fujisan | no lol |
| 07:04.22 | Fujisan | just pwnage :P |
| 07:04.23 | DHowett | annma: I have half a mind to just set +i immutable on the global key file =\ |
| 07:04.37 | annma | try it DHowett |
| 07:04.44 | annma | DHowett: is it trunk? |
| 07:04.52 | DHowett | yep |
| 07:05.51 | annma | if you find something we can see if there are any bug reports |
| 07:06.07 | DHowett | hold on, logging back in |
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| 07:07.30 | DHowett | ... |
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| 07:07.46 | DHowett | making the file IMMUTABLE didn't even work |
| 07:08.10 | annma | so what exactly is happening |
| 07:08.22 | annma | you set the keys, do they work? |
| 07:08.28 | DHowett | yes |
| 07:08.36 | annma | when you log back in they don't |
| 07:08.40 | Fujisan | annma = DHowett ? |
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| 07:08.43 | DHowett | then I log out, log back in, and they don't, and in the list they aren't set. |
| 07:08.45 | annma | is the config overwritten? |
| 07:08.49 | DHowett | yep. |
| 07:09.21 | annma | ideally you could start with no config file |
| 07:09.21 | DHowett | Wait, no. The file isn't overwritten |
| 07:09.26 | annma | ah |
| 07:09.38 | DHowett | I have an idea! hmm |
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| 07:11.35 | DHowett | I added quotes. It didn't work |
| 07:11.47 | DHowett | See, it refers to the keys as "Volume Down" "Volume Up" "Volume Mute", etc. |
| 07:11.56 | DHowett | they don't correctly get read back |
| 07:12.18 | Fujisan | aseigo i dont have an add dialog in superkaramba? |
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| 07:15.30 | DHowett | I'm taking this issue to bugzilla |
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| 07:19.15 | annma | DHowett: investigate further |
| 07:19.25 | annma | in Systemsettings, are the settings still there? |
| 07:19.31 | annma | did you try a new user? |
| 07:19.51 | DHowett | The settings are not still there. |
| 07:20.24 | DHowett | Only the special keys become unset. All other hotkeys that I have set stay set |
| 07:21.57 | annma | but they work when you set them until you log out |
| 07:22.07 | DHowett | yep. |
| 07:22.20 | DHowett | and when I log back in, only the special keys are unset and don't work. |
| 07:23.32 | annma | they are not in system settings anymore |
| 07:23.40 | annma | while the config file has them |
| 07:23.42 | pinotree | https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=161045 |
| 07:24.01 | DHowett | No, they get written |
| 07:24.33 | annma | pinotree: this is from systemsettings |
| 07:24.51 | annma | DHowett: did you open a bug report yet? |
| 07:25.01 | annma | be careful to explain as we did here |
| 07:25.26 | annma | this kmix bug report for ex is not very informative |
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| 07:25.55 | DHowett | I'm writing it now |
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| 07:27.46 | annma | maybe copy the relevant lines from the config file |
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| 07:39.57 | DHowett | Huh, turning OFF desktop effects allows the plasma dashboard to display the desktop background |
| 07:41.33 | annma | how do you mean? |
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| 07:43.37 | Rasi | hello |
| 07:43.46 | Rasi | i read something about a new window decoration for kde4? |
| 07:44.04 | Jucato | annma: <Jucato> DHowett1: I'm on the same thing. even with Desktop Effects off, I still get the normal desktop wallpaper when I do Ctrl+F12 |
| 07:44.16 | Rasi | i guess its just related to the blue lines in oxygen... |
| 07:44.27 | annma | Rasi: Ozone |
| 07:44.53 | annma | what should you get when you do Ctrl F12 |
| 07:45.11 | Rasi | ah.. i guessed this wouldnt be news to me :) |
| 07:45.15 | Jucato | annma: Show Dashboard |
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| 07:45.37 | Jucato | raises the "desktop" plasmoids |
| 07:45.42 | Rasi | damn 3d effects.... as soon as i enable them my fan gets loud |
| 07:45.44 | Rasi | :( |
| 07:46.09 | fde | Rasi: You're playing with Compiz on KDE, or the KWin effects? |
| 07:46.14 | Rasi | kwin |
| 07:46.24 | Rasi | thing is, its the CPU fan that gets loud |
| 07:46.34 | Rasi | but i guess its absorbing the heat of my gfx |
| 07:46.47 | Rasi | needs a new tower with good airflow |
| 07:47.03 | fde | needs a muffler for his fan |
| 07:47.17 | annma | Jucato: is this trunk today for Show Dashboard? |
| 07:47.29 | Jucato | annma: yep |
| 07:47.29 | Rasi | annma: show dashboard is there for months |
| 07:47.33 | Rasi | hmmm |
| 07:48.28 | Rasi | by the way.. opera inc. did NOT release a shared-qt4 build of opera 9.50 :( |
| 07:48.32 | Jucato | at least the keyboard shortcut has been there for along time. the widget/plasmoid is in kdeplasmoids |
| 07:48.38 | fde | Jucato: I'm with you, although it actually dulls everything on the desktop, and makes the plasmoids on the desktop stand out and move to top. |
| 07:48.40 | Rasi | i asked them why.. the only reply was "because..." |
| 07:48.53 | Rasi | Jucato: i used the show dashboard thing for ages |
| 07:48.59 | Rasi | and it worked |
| 07:49.09 | annma | Jucato: I think it just got broken |
| 07:49.15 | Jucato | wonders why suddenly everyone is telling him this... |
| 07:49.20 | annma | Rasi: yes but it can have been broken |
| 07:49.25 | Rasi | of course |
| 07:49.35 | annma | Jucato: because if so, I'lll get it fixed |
| 07:49.38 | Jucato | annma: compiled kdebase just hours ago |
| 07:49.38 | Rasi | my trunk is 2 days old.. and works |
| 07:49.43 | annma | OK |
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| 07:49.50 | annma | I'm on a new mission then!!! |
| 07:49.54 | Jucato | annma: broken how? it works properly here |
| 07:50.14 | annma | ah ok |
| 07:50.20 | annma | I though not |
| 07:50.23 | Rasi | annma: check if hotkey has been changed |
| 07:50.37 | Rasi | i could see that some keys have been changed in latest trunnk |
| 07:50.40 | Rasi | -n |
| 07:50.40 | Jucato | Ctrl+F12 shows the dashboard. without desktop effects, it uses the plain desktop wallpaper as background. with desktop effects, it just dims the desktop |
| 07:51.02 | annma | F12 does not work for me |
| 07:51.15 | Rasi | e.g. the grid has a new hotkey |
| 07:51.18 | Sput | isn't it ctrl+f12? |
| 07:51.22 | Rasi | yea |
| 07:51.25 | Rasi | ctrl |
| 07:51.25 | annma | ctrl F12 |
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| 07:51.32 | annma | does not work for me |
| 07:51.33 | Sput | works fine here |
| 07:51.59 | Sput | though I only see a white background rather than dimmed windows |
| 07:51.59 | Jucato | annma: yours is broken then :) |
| 07:51.59 | Sput | (and I have effects enabled) |
| 07:52.13 | Jucato | hm... must be kwin settings Sput |
| 07:52.30 | Jucato | just like DHowwett's problem |
| 07:52.35 | Jucato | er.. exactly like his |
| 07:52.45 | Rasi | annma: check systemsettins -> keyboard -> keyboard shortcuts -> plasma workspace |
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| 07:53.20 | Rasi | Sput: xrender or opengl? |
| 07:54.05 | Rasi | annma: also try changing the standard hotkey to something else |
| 07:54.10 | Rasi | maybe some program is blocking it |
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| 07:54.51 | annma | Rasi: I'm checking so much things |
| 07:54.54 | Sput | Rasi: opengl |
| 07:55.27 | Sput | effect in general work very well |
| 07:55.32 | Sput | *effects |
| 07:56.03 | Jucato | annma: for the first time, all ours are working, yours isn't :P |
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| 07:56.38 | Sput | looks like a white plane is jut put over the desktop for the dashboard, since on escape you can see it fade away :) |
| 07:56.55 | Sput | using TwinView here, maybe it's got something to do with that? |
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| 08:18.57 | pr0ggie | Hi. I was wondering if the aspell bug was fixed in Kopete? |
| 08:19.10 | annma | #kopete |
| 08:19.19 | pr0ggie | annma: Thanks you. |
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| 08:20.46 | Kalidarn | can someone check to see if http://www.nvidia.com/Download/index.aspx?lang=en-us works in Konqueror properly in KDE 4.1 |
| 08:20.53 | Kalidarn | it seems to be broken in KDE 3.5.9 |
| 08:21.21 | Kalidarn | claims that: Error: http://www.nvidia.com/Download/index.aspx?lang=en-us: ReferenceError: Can't find variable: DriverBannerAd_init |
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| 08:22.00 | jazka | doesn't work here, on kde 4.1 beta1 |
| 08:22.02 | annma | Kalidarn: works OK in 3.5.9 |
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| 08:22.20 | Kalidarn | try to download a driver annma |
| 08:22.59 | Kalidarn | the page reports: SYSTEM MESSAGE Please try again at a later time. Sorry for the inconvenience. |
| 08:23.00 | GraveDigger | works fine for me |
| 08:23.09 | Kalidarn | but it's but it works fine in firefox. |
| 08:23.11 | GraveDigger | download starts as it should |
| 08:23.19 | Kalidarn | odd. |
| 08:23.27 | annma | the nvidia smart scan does not support my system Kalidarn |
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| 08:23.36 | Kalidarn | im not talking about that |
| 08:23.40 | annma | whatever that "smart" scan is |
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| 08:24.02 | Kalidarn | gmmm |
| 08:24.31 | Kalidarn | maybe i should recompile konq with debug |
| 08:24.34 | Kalidarn | and see whats happening |
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| 08:48.43 | pr0ggie | Is there a distro that uses pure KDE? |
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| 08:50.17 | Kalidarn | kubuntu |
| 08:50.29 | Kalidarn | what do you mean 'pure' |
| 08:50.37 | Kalidarn | no other options? |
| 08:50.40 | pinotree | kubuntu "pure kde", LOL! |
| 08:50.53 | Kalidarn | well i havn't used it since 5.04 ;) |
| 08:51.04 | Kalidarn | or do you mean non-modified in any way type of packages |
| 08:51.10 | sandsmark | kubuntu patches it to death |
| 08:51.16 | Kalidarn | ah |
| 08:51.21 | sandsmark | Arch Linux has completely unpatched and umodified packages |
| 08:51.23 | Kalidarn | well gentoo and debian don't :) |
| 08:51.26 | Kalidarn | afaik |
| 08:51.28 | sandsmark | debian do |
| 08:51.29 | Kalidarn | oh yeah and arch |
| 08:51.35 | Kalidarn | oh yeah debian probably would :) |
| 08:51.41 | lemma | yes, debian patch it |
| 08:51.43 | sandsmark | debian patches everything it can put it's grubby hands on until it tries to die |
| 08:51.55 | Kalidarn | gentoo only apply patches for compile failures, with various flags, QA stuff and bugs |
| 08:52.17 | sandsmark | same for Arch Linux |
| 08:52.25 | Kalidarn | but other than that ive found it to be pretty KDE vanilla |
| 08:52.45 | Kalidarn | suse uses some enterprise version doesnt it |
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| 08:52.54 | sandsmark | gentoo splits it, don't they? |
| 08:53.04 | Kalidarn | well there's two options |
| 08:53.07 | Kalidarn | monolithic |
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| 08:53.10 | Kalidarn | which is non-split |
| 08:53.13 | Kalidarn | and the split ones |
| 08:53.23 | Kalidarn | the split ones just provide more configurability but are the same. |
| 08:53.30 | sandsmark | but the monolithic just pulls in the split ones? |
| 08:53.35 | Kalidarn | nope |
| 08:53.37 | sandsmark | k |
| 08:53.38 | Kalidarn | monolithic blocks split |
| 08:53.41 | Kalidarn | split blocks monolithic |
| 08:53.45 | Kalidarn | u can't have both |
| 08:53.56 | sandsmark | =) |
| 08:54.09 | Kalidarn | because that would cause lots of problems ;) |
| 08:54.10 | sandsmark | in arch you can have both kdemod (split and patched) and plain kde, side by side =P |
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| 08:54.27 | Kalidarn | well the only difference with the -meta packages |
| 08:54.39 | Kalidarn | is that, the programs are split so u can install just the programs u like |
| 08:54.45 | Kalidarn | instead of all of kdenetwork and all of its programs. |
| 08:54.52 | Kalidarn | other than that it's identical. |
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| 08:55.11 | Kalidarn | for example, or maybe one of the education programs like kalzium u can install without all the other ones |
| 08:55.20 | Kalidarn | i think suse is providing split packages with KDE4 as well. |
| 08:55.23 | sandsmark | well, in Arch we have package groups, so we don't need meta-hacks =) |
| 08:55.33 | Kalidarn | to me it makes more sense to have them split |
| 08:55.45 | Kalidarn | what do you mean by package-groups |
| 08:55.51 | sandsmark | Kalidarn: to me too, that's why I maintain the x86_64 split kde packages for Arch =) |
| 08:56.01 | Kalidarn | lol :) |
| 08:56.11 | sandsmark | Kalidarn: you install for example the group "kdemod-complete", which pulls in all the kdemod packages available |
| 08:56.13 | Kalidarn | ive been meaning to try arch |
| 08:56.17 | sandsmark | =) |
| 08:56.20 | Kalidarn | yeah |
| 08:56.21 | sandsmark | try kdemod too =) |
| 08:56.23 | Kalidarn | that happens in gentoo |
| 08:56.25 | sandsmark | kdemod.ath.cx |
| 08:57.10 | Kalidarn | we have package groups as well as individual packages |
| 08:57.33 | Kalidarn | i might use arch when i get a 64bit processor |
| 08:57.51 | sandsmark | =) |
| 08:57.53 | Kalidarn | to be honest its good u guys dont have to worry about crappy PPC anymore ;) |
| 08:58.04 | Kalidarn | because nobody uses it except on top of the range enterprise processors ;) |
| 08:58.13 | Kalidarn | bought from IBM directly. |
| 08:58.16 | sandsmark | the archlinux -ppc-project isn't dead, afaik =) |
| 08:58.24 | Kalidarn | oh? |
| 08:58.32 | sandsmark | http://www.archlinuxppc.org/ |
| 08:58.42 | Kalidarn | as it is OSX 10.6 wont support PPC anymore |
| 08:58.57 | sandsmark | well, Arch still does =) |
| 08:59.25 | Kalidarn | mm ill be looking forward to kDE4.1 ;) |
| 08:59.34 | Kalidarn | i might reinstall with arch ;P |
| 08:59.42 | Kalidarn | when it comes out |
| 09:00.01 | sandsmark | we have 4.0.82 packages in the kdemod-unstable repo =) |
| 09:00.06 | Kalidarn | yeah so do we |
| 09:00.09 | sandsmark | (beta 1 was 4.0.80) |
| 09:00.13 | Kalidarn | and beta1 ;) |
| 09:00.21 | Kalidarn | and live SVN :) |
| 09:00.28 | Kalidarn | if you really have balls |
| 09:00.51 | sandsmark | well, there's a guy providing nightly rebuilds of KDE svn, but they are incompatible with the normal KDE install |
| 09:00.59 | sandsmark | as in KDE trunk |
| 09:01.04 | Kalidarn | though the one thing i didn't like about archlinux |
| 09:01.07 | Kalidarn | was it's package format |
| 09:01.18 | Kalidarn | its simply tarballs :P |
| 09:01.25 | pinotree | *cough* distro channel *cough* |
| 09:01.32 | sandsmark | pinotree: sorry =3 |
| 09:01.37 | Kalidarn | hahaha sorry :) |
| 09:01.44 | sandsmark | (Kalidarn: so is debian packages) |
| 09:01.58 | sandsmark | Kalidarn: we can continue in #shaman-arch, if you want =) |
| 09:02.03 | pinotree | so is rpm too, then? |
| 09:02.08 | Kalidarn | yeah but they have other features like gpg signing and cool stuff, anyways lets not get pinotree unhappy |
| 09:02.11 | Kalidarn | he might drop a pineapple |
| 09:02.23 | sandsmark | =) |
| 09:02.42 | pinotree | every package format is at least one level of archive |
| 09:03.25 | pinotree | call it tar, cpio, ar or whatever does not change much |
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| 09:21.21 | wart_ | okular won't load icons saying that there is no standard icon theme ``oxygen'' installed on my gentoo system; any idea what package this icon theme is in? (otherwise, okular works just fine!) |
| 09:21.39 | pinotree | you should ask in #gentoo-kde for packages |
| 09:22.17 | alediaferia | or #genkdesvn if kde-svn =) |
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| 09:27.59 | flaccid_ | can you purge packages in Adept manager? |
| 09:28.26 | fde | flaccid_: #kubuntu |
| 09:28.49 | flaccid_ | fde: adept is for kubuntu only? |
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| 09:29.36 | fde | flaccid_: I'm pretty sure... it started as part of another project, but I think those guys are now the same ones doing Kubuntu. |
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| 09:29.51 | fde | flaccid_: It's certainly not a KDE project. |
| 09:30.01 | flaccid_ | fair enough, nobody knew there... |
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| 09:30.33 | Jucato | changes nick to "nobody" |
| 09:30.37 | fde | If it were, I think Celeste would go ape. |
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| 09:31.35 | flaccid_ | Jucato: smart ass |
| 09:31.46 | Jucato | to be technically and politically correct, Adept is a KDE GUI package manager for Debian-based distros, which is used as Kubuntu's default GUI package manager |
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| 09:33.25 | fde | Jucato: And no one else, cuz it sucks... escaping the politically correct again. |
| 09:33.53 | fde | (technically it's in Debian, but popcon shows it really isn't at all popular) |
| 09:34.16 | Jucato | (and who uses popcon nowadays? O.o) |
| 09:34.23 | Jucato | (but that's offtopic for #kde) |
| 09:34.47 | flaccid_ | which somehow is ok for you but not others :) |
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| 09:35.50 | J-23 | hmm, I've checkouted KDE from SVN, now where can I find setup instructions? |
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| 09:36.31 | fde | Jucato: You'd be surprised actually, a lot of people care about what gets put on the first few CD's, and that is the goal of popcon, so you don't have to download all 20+ cd's to get everything you need. |
| 09:36.35 | lemma | J-23: http://techbase.kde.org/Getting_Started |
| 09:36.46 | fde | (not that most use CD's... internet is faster, but yeah) |
| 09:36.55 | J-23 | ok. |
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| 09:42.56 | Rasi | everyone try to login to a fresh tty with your username all uppercase |
| 09:42.59 | Rasi | like in RASI |
| 09:43.08 | Rasi | if it works name me your distribution |
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| 09:50.59 | ASIRIneiluj | hi ! |
| 09:51.26 | fde | Rasi: linux is case sensitive... make the username all caps and it'll work on any distro |
| 09:51.27 | ASIRIneiluj | is there a way to move plasmoïds in the pannel ? |
| 09:51.39 | fde | ASIRIneiluj: not currently. |
| 09:51.46 | ASIRIneiluj | oh, too bad |
| 09:52.09 | Rasi | fde: on arch the case of username is ignored |
| 09:52.25 | Rasi | with the result that the whole terminal outputs caps-only |
| 09:52.29 | ASIRIneiluj | let's hope it's implemented before 4.1 is released |
| 09:52.48 | Rasi | fde: it only works with full-caps or full-lowercase tho |
| 09:52.55 | ASIRIneiluj | fde: that's not possible even by tweaking the plasmarc config file ? |
| 09:52.56 | Rasi | so rASi would not login, while RASI would |
| 09:53.03 | fde | ASIRIneiluj: the plasma lead was in here earlier saying he's working on it, so it likely will be. |
| 09:53.18 | Rasi | ASIRIneiluj: you can sort using that file, yea |
| 09:53.19 | fde | Rasi: that's just weird |
| 09:53.23 | ASIRIneiluj | fde: oh, nice ! |
| 09:53.26 | Rasi | fde: thats why i am asking |
| 09:53.34 | Rasi | want to know if other distros are affected too |
| 09:53.37 | fde | Rasi: Why would you want that? |
| 09:54.03 | Rasi | fde: i am on arch and this is definately a bug |
| 09:54.08 | Rasi | just want to find out the source |
| 09:54.14 | ASIRIneiluj | fde: just another question and I stop bothering you :) |
| 09:54.40 | fde | ASIRIneiluj: Ask everyone, not just me |
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| 09:54.52 | ASIRIneiluj | I can drag n drop the panel on my first xinerama screen but not on the second |
| 09:54.59 | ASIRIneiluj | second one |
| 09:55.07 | ASIRIneiluj | is that a known behaviour ? |
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| 09:55.56 | fde | ASIRIneiluj: Well, Xinerama is old, replaced by xrandr ... but that means plasma doesn't know about the second screen, are you using kde 4.1 beta? |
| 09:56.02 | ASIRIneiluj | fde: yeah, that's just that you seem to be the one answering right now, of course the question is not specifically for you :) |
| 09:56.11 | ASIRIneiluj | fde: yeah |
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| 09:56.21 | ASIRIneiluj | latest debian experimental packages |
| 09:56.42 | gejr | I'm new to the whole Qt-thing. Is there no way to change the menu-appearances in Opera webbrowser? |
| 09:56.49 | fde | ASIRIneiluj: I think someone said earlier that in newer (like within the last week) builds, it's working ok... but not prior... |
| 09:56.50 | ASIRIneiluj | either the beta or another svn checkout I'm not really sure |
| 09:56.53 | gejr | they look like redmond here :# |
| 09:57.02 | fde | ASIRIneiluj: that doesn't really help... what is the version? 4.0.82? |
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| 09:57.16 | ASIRIneiluj | fde: thank you very much for your help ! |
| 09:57.24 | ASIRIneiluj | fde: let me check |
| 09:57.52 | fde | gejr: Opera has nothing to do with KDE, other than they happen to use the same toolkit... KDE adds tons on top of Qt though, so we have no idea. |
| 09:58.29 | ASIRIneiluj | fde: it's 4.0.80 |
| 09:58.31 | gejr | i see that. I just reckoned a lot of people in here used opera ;-) |
| 09:58.43 | fde | ASIRIneiluj: That's pre-beta I think... pretty old... |
| 09:58.52 | ASIRIneiluj | fde: ok, thank you |
| 09:58.56 | fde | gejr: You'd be very wrong. |
| 09:59.05 | ASIRIneiluj | I might have to find a more up to date repository then |
| 09:59.12 | ASIRIneiluj | see you |
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| 10:01.49 | Rasi | thinks opera inc does not like KDE |
| 10:02.34 | Rasi | why else, shortly before the release of kde4.1 they refuse to offer a shared-qt4 build |
| 10:02.42 | fde | Rasi: They can't utilize KDE, else they'd have to open source their browser. |
| 10:03.17 | Rasi | well they could at least allow to use the same toolkit instead of linking it statically only |
| 10:03.22 | Rasi | would enable oxygen for opera |
| 10:03.26 | fde | Rasi: Too much work for them. Plus, I wouldn't be surprised if they'd have to buy a new license to use Qt4. |
| 10:03.35 | Rasi | fde: there IS a qt4 build |
| 10:03.38 | Rasi | but its static |
| 10:03.59 | Rasi | so you only have a handful of themes |
| 10:04.20 | fde | idk then... opera sucks imo... worst interface for a browser ever, and tons of ads if you don't buy it :S |
| 10:04.30 | fde | Buying a browser is retarded. |
| 10:04.32 | Rasi | ? |
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| 10:04.37 | Rasi | opera is free for years now |
| 10:04.40 | Jucato | *ahem* |
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| 10:04.56 | fde | gives Jucato a lausenger |
| 10:05.05 | Jucato | points to #kde-chat |
| 10:05.21 | Jucato | takes the lozenge |
| 10:06.02 | fde | really needs to figure out how to get KSpell working with KDE3 apps on oS 11 :| |
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| 10:33.11 | kakalto | what is required for recieving msn webcam in kopete? |
| 10:35.30 | fde | kakalto: an open port, and port forwarding if you're using a router etc |
| 10:35.47 | kakalto | fde: no ekiga or such? Do you know what port(s)? |
| 10:36.09 | fde | kakalto: Doesn't matter, just set kopete to use whatever port you open. |
| 10:36.24 | fde | kakalto: No you don't need ekiga or anything else. |
| 10:36.47 | kakalto | fde: how do I set kopete to use a particular port for it? |
| 10:37.18 | kakalto | ooh, found it |
| 10:38.24 | fde | Ugh... in KDE4, Kopete doesn't appear to save that setting though :S |
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| 10:39.36 | fde | kakalto: I know it works in KDE3 though... can't test in KDE4 due to it not saving... |
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| 10:48.46 | kakalto_ | woo, cheers fde |
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| 11:06.37 | Xzanron | Hi. I've got a problem with my KDE desktop. It seems that my desktop is showing all the folders in / (i.e. root) not the stuff in ~/Desktop I was expecting. Where can I change what directory KDE uses for the desktop? |
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| 11:13.49 | fde | Xzanron: There is likely some workaround for your distro. |
| 11:13.56 | fde | Xzanron: Ask that channel. |
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| 11:15.30 | Xzanron | fde: I have, no one knows |
| 11:15.42 | fde | Xzanron: What distro? |
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| 11:15.58 | Xzanron | fde: mandriva |
| 11:16.04 | psilocyb1n | hey, does any of you know anything about gnome/debian menus? |
| 11:16.06 | fde | ouch |
| 11:16.22 | fde | psilocyb1n: How is that related to KDE? |
| 11:16.34 | Xzanron | i suspect something went wrong creating the user... maybe i'll just try delete ~ and copy everything frmo /etc/skel again |
| 11:16.51 | psilocyb1n | ah, dunno, but when using kde, i found here some help... many times.. but on chan gnome, nobody say anything, i find that very stupid >:| |
| 11:17.23 | fde | psilocyb1n: people in #kde are very helpful, when you're asking about kde. |
| 11:17.48 | fde | psilocyb1n: try #gnome on irc.gimp.net |
| 11:18.14 | psilocyb1n | ah, ok thx :) |
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| 11:21.17 | psilocyb1n | pretty quiet there. |
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| 11:25.48 | fde | psilocyb1n: it's early in the US. |
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| 11:26.02 | hays | 7:28am EST |
| 11:26.12 | fde | 4:30 PST |
| 11:26.25 | psilocyb1n | ah, nobody from europe? |
| 11:26.28 | ASIRIneiluj | does someone know where to find kde4.1 repositories for debian ? |
| 11:26.35 | fde | Usually people get active around 7-8am PST |
| 11:26.45 | fde | ASIRIneiluj: try apt-get.org |
| 11:26.48 | Half-Left | should be lots from europe |
| 11:26.54 | ASIRIneiluj | fde: thanks |
| 11:26.59 | Half-Left | most of the devs are :p |
| 11:27.09 | psilocyb1n | well, do u know why running $ qtconfig gives this |
| 11:27.13 | psilocyb1n | qtconfig: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libQt3Support.so.4: undefined symbol: _ZNK9QMenuItem10metaObjectEv |
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| 11:27.39 | fde | psilocyb1n: Yuck. |
| 11:28.02 | hays | sounds like qt libs changed and the binary wasn't rebuilt |
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| 11:28.58 | psilocyb1n | it's from debian :P |
| 11:29.18 | hays | wow |
| 11:30.23 | pusling | psilocyb1n: can you please pastebin dpkg -l | grep qt ? |
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| 11:32.18 | psilocyb1n | http://pastebin.com/d2ab8b4d6 |
| 11:32.19 | Yarcanox | why does a right-click on a file in dolphin not only open the context-menu but also open the file instantly? |
| 11:33.55 | fde | Yarcanox: You picked a crappy time to build your KDE? |
| 11:34.26 | pusling | psilocyb1n: that I don't understand. whattabout ldd -r /usr/bin/qtconfig-qt4 ? |
| 11:34.27 | Yarcanox | fde: kubuntu-packagers took a crappy time to build my KDE? |
| 11:34.46 | fde | Yarcanox: Entirely possible, ask #kubuntu whether it's known. |
| 11:35.02 | pusling | psilocyb1n: (i'm by the way one of the debian Qt maintainers) |
| 11:35.07 | fde | Yarcanox: 4.0.82 certainly doesn't have that behavior. |
| 11:35.19 | Yarcanox | I have no idea which version I have. |
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| 11:35.40 | Yarcanox | I updated using apt-get, but strangely the version shown in dolphin hasn't changed at all |
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| 11:35.58 | fde | pusling: Looking like KDE 4.1 will be in Lenny per chance? |
| 11:36.01 | Yarcanox | but it updated kde core and all that stuff, I have no idea if I got still that version dolphin shows me or not |
| 11:36.05 | pusling | fde: no. |
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| 11:36.16 | fde | pusling: That sucks |
| 11:36.51 | fde | pusling: Then they need to hurry up and release it so I can bother with Debian again. |
| 11:37.03 | pusling | fde: see discussion on the pkg-kde-talk@lists.alioth.debian.org mailinglist for details - I was advocating kde4, but was kind of outvoted. |
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| 11:38.16 | fde | pusling: I'm really starting to despise some of the decision making in Debian in general... ugh, I doubt I'll actually ever use it again either way honestly. |
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| 11:38.54 | pusling | fde: but anyway. that discussion is now dead. |
| 11:38.58 | psilocyb1n | http://pastebin.com/d7c578d76 |
| 11:39.08 | psilocyb1n | pusling: |
| 11:39.11 | fde | Shame too, Debian was my first love in the Linux world :( my first 6 years of use :( |
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| 11:40.08 | psilocyb1n | fde: what is your choice distro now then? :-/ |
| 11:40.25 | pusling | psilocyb1n: you broke your system. you have stuff in /usr/local/lib that is preferred. |
| 11:40.41 | fde | psilocyb1n: currently openSUSE as their KDE packages are the best. I've been using Fedora a lot too. |
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| 11:42.05 | psilocyb1n | ah i see :) |
| 11:42.06 | psilocyb1n | thx |
| 11:44.01 | toscalix | hi all, has anybody detected a misbehaviour while booting kopete? It reaches 99% of cpu use for about 30 seconds, sometimes longer, even if there is not any other app in use. I'm using xubuntu 8.04 with kde |
| 11:45.00 | fde | toscalix: So, uhh... KDE 3.5.9 or 4.0.2 or whatever |
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| 11:47.32 | ASIRIneiluj | seems like the kde package of debian experimental are uploaded by kde guys or so have I been told in #debian, do you have any idead who does that job ? |
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| 11:47.47 | ASIRIneiluj | s/idead/idea/ |
| 11:48.41 | fde | ASIRIneiluj: #debian-kde or see if pusling is still around maybe |
| 11:50.07 | ASIRIneiluj | fde: thank you, you should be paid for all the help you provide here ! it's a full time job ! |
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| 11:52.02 | DHowett | Where does the temperature monitor widget get its information? or even, where would solid get temperature info? My sensors are working, but KDE doesn't know that or seem to care |
| 11:52.07 | toscalix | 3.5.9 |
| 11:52.11 | toscalix | fde |
| 11:52.19 | pusling | ASIRIneiluj: who tells you that in #debian ? whoever told you that are wrong. only debian developers can upload to experimental. |
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| 11:53.21 | fde | toscalix: took so long I forgot what you asked. |
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| 11:58.06 | ASIRIneiluj | wow ... konversation takes 100% CPU since I am using KDE4's kwin |
| 11:58.27 | GNU\colossus | it's a feature! |
| 11:58.44 | ASIRIneiluj | GNU\colossus: oh, it's ok then :) |
| 11:58.49 | GNU\colossus | hehe |
| 11:58.59 | ASIRIneiluj | and that's what multicore processors are for after all :) |
| 11:59.03 | GNU\colossus | the recommended solution is to buy a quadcore |
| 11:59.06 | GNU\colossus | yeah |
| 11:59.56 | ASIRIneiluj | yeah, switching desktop effects of in kwin brings konversation back to 1% CPU use |
| 12:00.16 | ASIRIneiluj | that's strange because I don't think konversation use any compositing ... |
| 12:00.30 | ASIRIneiluj | anyway, that might be a little bit offtopic |
| 12:02.01 | Sho_ | ASIRIneiluj: hm .. |
| 12:02.20 | ASIRIneiluj | Sho_: yeah ? |
| 12:02.28 | Sho_ | ASIRIneiluj: Could you check Konvi SVN if you have the problem there still? I can't reproduce it here |
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| 12:03.02 | ASIRIneiluj | Sho_: guess I have problems with kwin anyway as it also tends to use 100% CPU |
| 12:03.09 | Sho_ | ASIRIneiluj: ah hm |
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| 12:04.35 | ASIRIneiluj | and I also have this bug where resizing konsole will take ages etc, etc ... |
| 12:05.00 | ASIRIneiluj | guess laptops nvidia cards are not the best kwin friends |
| 12:05.27 | DHowett | I'd say :) |
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| 12:06.26 | annma | ASIRIneiluj: depends what driver and how you set it |
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| 12:06.42 | annma | ASIRIneiluj: I have a nvidia 7400 and I develop on my laptop |
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| 12:08.31 | ASIRIneiluj | well I have a "Quadro NVS 135M" (don't exactly know what it is) with nvidia proprietary drivers and ... well as I told, quite a lot of bugs |
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| 12:09.08 | ASIRIneiluj | is there still this environment variable to set in order to get acceptable performances ? |
| 12:09.11 | annma | 100PU is something |
| 12:09.54 | DHowett | possibly the kwin_nvidia_hack being defaulted to on, sicne it can cause 100% usage |
| 12:10.02 | ASIRIneiluj | 100% CPU you mean ? |
| 12:10.32 | annma | yes |
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| 12:11.36 | ASIRIneiluj | well yeah, it's not really usable with that |
| 12:12.11 | ASIRIneiluj | gues I have to wait a bit more until I can switch on compositing |
| 12:12.24 | ASIRIneiluj | too bad, I like the new alt-tab behaviour |
| 12:12.48 | annma | yes, neat |
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| 12:13.08 | annma | I use the 3D one |
| 12:13.15 | annma | not 3D but |
| 12:13.41 | ASIRIneiluj | the coverflow one ? |
| 12:14.12 | DHowett | At least for me, having compositing on also causes the plasma dashboard (ctrl-F12) to appear completely white. hm. |
| 12:14.35 | annma | flip switch |
| 12:14.51 | engineer | compiz works fine with me |
| 12:15.00 | annma | compiz is not a KDE thing |
| 12:15.08 | engineer | nop |
| 12:15.10 | annma | DHowett: is it trunk? |
| 12:15.24 | ASIRIneiluj | well, brb, I'll try to reorder plasmoids on my pannel |
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| 12:15.31 | DHowett | annma: yep |
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| 12:15.42 | annma | it's OK here DHowett |
| 12:15.54 | annma | this mornign it was weird but I think I did something |
| 12:16.06 | Sput | DHowett: same here |
| 12:16.07 | annma | as I am testing several bugs |
| 12:16.20 | paul_limer | hi, im having a hard time trying to make my xmodmap load at the start of kde. whta is the best way to get xmodmap to run before i logon? |
| 12:16.20 | annma | maybe you guys want to svn up then |
| 12:16.43 | DHowett | annma: just a rebuild of plasma? I get kde-SVN through gentoo |
| 12:17.22 | annma | DHowett: kdebase then |
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| 12:17.58 | annma | paul_limer: kde4? |
| 12:18.15 | DHowett | Er, split ebuilds, so kdebase is like 30 packages. |
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| 12:18.39 | paul_limer | no kde3 |
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| 12:19.49 | annma | DHowett: well I build kde svn and kdebase is 1 or can be 3 |
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| 12:23.08 | paul_limer | i know i can put a referance to xmodmap into ~/kde/autostart but i want the xmodmap to be loaded for all users without having to put it into every users home directory. |
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| 12:24.11 | DHowett | "U workspace/kwin/effects/maketransparent.cpp" .. hm, I wonder if that's related. :) |
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| 12:26.04 | annma | $KDEDIR/share/autostart paul_limer |
| 12:26.28 | annma | $KDEDIR = kde-config --prefix |
| 12:26.50 | annma | that will load stuff globally at kde start |
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| 12:29.07 | Jucato | annma: do you use akregator/kontact? |
| 12:29.36 | annma | Jucato: no |
| 12:29.50 | Jucato | blaa (to quote Chani) |
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| 12:30.32 | Jucato | perhaps I should show my ugly head in #kontact then :/ |
| 12:30.53 | annma | I abstain using pim, I already have enough bugs to deal with |
| 12:31.04 | Jucato | hehe :P |
| 12:31.17 | Jucato | well I have 2 more bugs for kdepim, that's why I asked you :) |
| 12:31.26 | annma | runs away |
| 12:31.40 | Half-Left | Bugs!!!, Where? |
| 12:31.43 | Jucato | no worries. going to bug the people in #kontact instead :) |
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| 12:32.05 | Half-Left | Lies, all lies |
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| 12:39.31 | paul_limer |  $KDEDIR = kde-config --prefix what exactly does this mea? |
| 12:40.21 | jazka | it returns where your kde is installed |
| 12:40.27 | Jucato | paul_limer: "kde-config --prefix" is a command |
| 12:41.36 | annma | it indiicates what $KDEDIR means to your system paul_limer |
| 12:41.37 | paul_limer | aaaaaaaaahhhh i seeee! |
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| 12:41.48 | annma | as it vareis for distros |
| 12:42.01 | paul_limer | so i can just stick my xmodmap script in there? |
| 12:42.10 | Jucato | and the $KDEDIR is not always set (and is supposed to be deprecated in favor of $KDEDIRS...) |
| 12:42.16 | Jucato | um... |
| 12:42.34 | annma | paul_limer: yes |
| 12:42.42 | paul_limer | ok il give it a go |
| 12:42.50 | Jucato | paul_limer: annma said $KDEDIR/share/autostart. so for example, if your "kde-config --prefix" (which gives you the value of $KDEDIR) returns /usr, then stick it to /usr/share/autostart/ |
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| 12:49.38 | Half-Left | Does Krita need Koffice or something to build from trunk? |
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| 12:50.36 | Jucato | most probably koffice libs |
| 12:50.46 | Jucato | since it's part of koffice ;) |
| 12:50.49 | Jucato | #koffice perhaps? |
| 12:51.26 | vivo | hello, where can I find "sitter" developer, want to report a typo a svn commit ? |
| 12:51.30 | Half-Left | yer |
| 12:51.44 | Sput | vivo: apachelogger in #amarok |
| 12:51.44 | Jucato | arr! |
| 12:51.56 | vivo | omg, sorry for my english ;) |
| 12:51.59 | paul_limer | ok, i cant make that work. I have created a script that contains '#!/bin/bash, xmodmap /etc/kde3/kdm/xmodmap' And placed this in /usr/share/autostart. However this is not being run. Is there a special format i must use? |
| 12:52.01 | vivo | Sput: thanks |
| 12:52.18 | Sput | vivo: oh he's in #kde-devel too :) |
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| 12:55.45 | daniel | Are there some icon-guys around? I'd really like to learn how to make those shiny, neat icons with open-source tools |
| 12:58.46 | paul_limer | is there a special format i must use for the script in '/usr/share/autostart'? |
| 12:59.25 | Jucato | is the script executable? (+x) |
| 12:59.39 | pinotree | hits Jucato with his guide |
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| 12:59.48 | jazka | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:59.54 | paul_limer | yes |
| 12:59.58 | paul_limer | it is the folder |
| 13:01.03 | Jucato | http://jucato.org/kde/kde-autostart.html |
| 13:01.15 | Jucato | paul_limer: is the script executable? (chmod +x) |
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| 13:02.21 | paul_limer | yes |
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| 13:06.33 | paul_limer | ffs there has to be somway to do this |
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| 13:08.26 | masus | hi all,is it possible to install kde4 via apt "debian etch" |
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| 13:09.51 | engineer | ask in #debian |
| 13:10.05 | pusling | masus: no. |
| 13:10.23 | masus | pusling: Thanks. Another Way ? |
| 13:10.31 | paul_limer | kde4 wont be in etch repos yet |
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| 13:10.54 | paul_limer | wait till a year after it is officialy released and it might be in |
| 13:11.24 | engineer | yep |
| 13:11.45 | engineer | or change distro like most have done |
| 13:11.53 | pusling | paul_limer: kde4 will never be in etch |
| 13:12.04 | paul_limer | never?? |
| 13:12.12 | paul_limer | surely EVENTUALLY |
| 13:12.21 | paul_limer | when it becomes the standard |
| 13:12.23 | Jucato | paul_limer: nope. not the style of Debian |
| 13:12.33 | pusling | paul_limer: no. never. etch is released, only security updates comes to etch |
| 13:12.34 | paul_limer | what anal and restrictive! |
| 13:12.45 | pusling | no. |
| 13:12.47 | masus | kde users dont like Debian ?? |
| 13:12.48 | Jucato | ... |
| 13:12.49 | masus | :) |
| 13:13.10 | paul_limer | try sidux, debian sid kinda stabilised. |
| 13:13.19 | pusling | paul_limer: haha. sidux is debian sid + extra bugs |
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| 13:13.36 | paul_limer | yeah, it awesome |
| 13:13.46 | paul_limer | about as stable as my xp box! |
| 13:14.01 | Jucato | hm... let's try not to get into "this distro is better than that"... I think masus's question was answered (or at least directed to where it could answered) |
| 13:14.28 | paul_limer | just musing over debian.. |
| 13:14.48 | pusling | paul_limer: most distros with releases does it that way I think. |
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| 13:16.42 | paul_limer | is there some way i can use xinit to load xmodmap?? there has tto be way to do this. it is so ******* simple. |
| 13:16.46 | huie | Hi Does anyone have a KDE distro that can be installed on 100 Megs of RAM ? |
| 13:16.53 | paul_limer | no |
| 13:17.13 | annma | huie: small distros, google for that |
| 13:17.24 | annma | but no KDE |
| 13:17.27 | pinotree | paul_limer: can you gently calm down, please? |
| 13:17.35 | polz | AFAIK, debian can be installed on 32M of RAM |
| 13:17.40 | huie | annma: No KDE? |
| 13:17.51 | polz | and has KDE. I wouldn't expect it to run smoothly, though |
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| 13:18.24 | ethan961_ | I wouldnt expect it to run at all |
| 13:18.26 | huie | Doesn't really need to be fully up to date. I just need it to boot. Beable to install skype |
| 13:18.31 | annma | huie: 100Mb RAM is a bit small |
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| 13:18.42 | pusling | huie: I think kde uses too much ram .. but try out debian if you mant |
| 13:18.50 | Jucato | too much? |
| 13:18.51 | polz | ethan961_: if you enable swap, it's going to run. OK, not run but at least it's going to crawl |
| 13:18.52 | annma | too much ram? |
| 13:19.14 | Jucato | I've seen someone run Kubuntu (of all distros) on 128MB (or just a bit more than that, but not 256MB) |
| 13:19.15 | annma | pusling: KDE is a whole environment, not just a window manager |
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| 13:19.18 | polz | huie: first of all, you need a pretty decent processor to run skype |
| 13:19.27 | pusling | annma: yes ? |
| 13:19.29 | polz | huie: secondly, you don't need KDE to run skype. |
| 13:19.37 | huie | polz: it's 733 Mhz |
| 13:19.43 | ethan961_ | openbox |
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| 13:19.53 | huie | polz: I know :( but it's the person's first Linux machine |
| 13:19.55 | polz | why are you limited to only 100M of RAM ?? |
| 13:20.20 | huie | cause that's what is in the machine |
| 13:20.21 | pusling | huie: can't you get a bit more ram from ebay |
| 13:20.37 | huie | the person expects to upgrade to anoher 512 in a month or so |
| 13:20.49 | polz | huie: well, can't you find a 256M SDRAM at a local dump or something ? |
| 13:20.58 | dwins | huie: xfce is a pretty nice light desktop |
| 13:21.09 | polz | huie: I'd wait until then if I were you |
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| 13:21.15 | Jucato | hm... for a person's first Linux machine, I'd try to give him the best experience possible (of course without getting vista specs) |
| 13:21.50 | polz | I don't think the experience is going to be great with only 100M of RAM |
| 13:22.13 | huie | Yeah she more or less just wants a machine for skype to free up the other computers for work |
| 13:22.18 | ethan961_ | I had great first experiences ok 265 |
| 13:22.19 | huie | me either |
| 13:22.22 | ethan961_ | *on |
| 13:22.25 | Jucato | maybe with Xfce... but that still won't be great *snickers* |
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| 13:22.35 | huie | the box was thought to have 512 MB of RAM |
| 13:22.37 | Jucato | huie: try SLAX, http://www.slax.org/ |
| 13:22.38 | huie | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:22.45 | paul_limer | even xfce struggles at 128 |
| 13:22.46 | ethan961_ | Knoppix |
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| 13:22.58 | dwins | huie: then maybe you could just find some minimalist WM and set it to just run skype and log out when you close that |
| 13:23.18 | Jucato | according to http://www.geocities.com/slaxfansite/#computer it only requires 64MB O.o |
| 13:23.21 | huie | dwins: Hmm. Not a bad idea |
| 13:23.23 | ethan961_ | Heck, I ran kde on knoppix 4 on 256 for a couple months |
| 13:23.30 | Jucato | oh wait... 128MB for KDE... |
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| 13:23.41 | huie | Jucato: vectorlinux4 needed 32 I think |
| 13:23.53 | Jucato | huie: but that uses Xfce iirc |
| 13:23.59 | dwins | ethan961_: was that because it took a couple months for the logout dialog to load? |
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| 13:24.25 | Jucato | lol @ dwins |
| 13:24.28 | sigma_ | wheres the irc room of dragon player? |
| 13:24.32 | ethan961_ | no, it ran surprisingly wlll |
| 13:24.43 | ethan961_ | this was knoppix 4 though |
| 13:24.52 | Jucato | can't think of a good "run will" joke... |
| 13:25.00 | dwins | sigma_: I believe you can ask questions about dragon player here |
| 13:25.19 | dwins | in general, 'don't ask to ask, just ask' :) |
| 13:25.19 | ethan961_ | that was my first Linux experience, and I stuck with Linux, so it must have run pretty well |
| 13:25.23 | Jucato | thought there was a #dragonplayer channel too... but might be dreaming |
| 13:25.39 | Jucato | sigma_: there is one! :P |
| 13:25.52 | Jucato | "don't ask. just shoot" |
| 13:26.02 | huie | shot the sherrif |
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| 13:26.21 | ethan961_ | ohnoes |
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| 13:27.23 | huie | annma: Do you know that #KDE reports a URL upon Join? |
| 13:27.29 | sigma_ | slight problem, the kde4.1 version uses my monospace font for the "time remaining" gui, this is really ugly. can't it use my normal font (arial)? it did in kde4.0.3 |
| 13:28.35 | sigma_ | referring to dragon player |
| 13:28.37 | Jucato | huie: what do you mean? |
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| 13:28.54 | Fujisan | ragon player |
| 13:28.54 | Fujisan | <Jucato> huie: what do you mean? |
| 13:29.02 | Fujisan | oops |
| 13:29.02 | huie | [328] #kde http://rikkus.info/kde_openprojects_faq.html |
| 13:29.03 | Fujisan | sorry |
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| 13:30.25 | Jucato | so it does.. hm.. |
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| 13:30.41 | sigma_ | amarok does the same, i dont understand how no one has seen that |
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| 13:30.59 | dwins | i've seen it, just never looked into fixing it |
| 13:31.09 | dwins | monospace makes sense for a timer imho |
| 13:31.32 | sigma_ | just looks out of place |
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| 13:31.41 | sigma_ | when everything else is arial |
| 13:31.58 | dwins | sigma_: maybe you should just find a nice monospace font :) |
| 13:32.06 | dwins | like liberation mono |
| 13:32.13 | ethan961 | Terminus |
| 13:32.19 | sigma_ | dwins: do those exist? |
| 13:32.31 | dwins | you've got a couple of suggestions |
| 13:32.40 | dwins | but of course 'nice' is in the eye of the beholder |
| 13:32.45 | ethan961 | ^^ which is the one kdemod installs |
| 13:32.45 | sigma_ | in gnome you can change the mono font to arial which solves the problem but not in kde |
| 13:32.45 | huie | Jucato: Seems a tad out of date |
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| 13:33.10 | dwins | sigma_: here is a preview of liberation mono |
| 13:33.13 | huie | esp since a) #KDE-users does'nt exist and b) it talks about the CVS |
| 13:33.13 | dwins | http://www.dafont.com/liberation-mono.font |
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| 13:33.56 | ethan961 | that can't |
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| 13:35.15 | ethan961 | omg OMG |
| 13:35.17 | ethan961 | wants that font |
| 13:36.21 | dwins | ethan961: https://www.redhat.com/promo/fonts/ |
| 13:36.52 | huie | Does Slackware ave a monopoly on low end distros? |
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| 13:40.50 | sigma_ | ok lucida console will be alright for now |
| 13:41.00 | Jucato | huie: thanks for noticing it. fixed. |
| 13:41.30 | sigma_ | huie: what about DSL? most people just use a normal distro |
| 13:41.44 | huie | I forgot about DSL |
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| 13:47.00 | DexterF | hi |
| 13:47.19 | DexterF | what's the easiest way to monitor disk usage of a memstick? |
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| 13:48.13 | dwins | DexterF: "watch df" is pretty easy |
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| 13:48.59 | DexterF | dwins: duh. ok, fine for me. and something graphical for lusers? |
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| 13:49.45 | dwins | dolphin has a disk usage bar in the status bar? |
| 13:50.02 | sigma_ | yeah was just bout to say that |
| 13:50.15 | dwins | there used to be a 'kdf' tool that lived in the system tray, dunno if it made it to KDE4 |
| 13:50.41 | sigma_ | why doesnt dragonplayer have a playlist? |
| 13:50.46 | huie | Probably Plasmafied now |
| 13:50.53 | huie | sigma_: Design |
| 13:51.04 | dwins | sigma_: dragonplayer is intended to be dead simple |
| 13:51.42 | sigma_ | dwins: a playlist is complex? |
| 13:51.56 | huie | Yes.. it seems |
| 13:52.01 | dwins | more complex than not having one :) |
| 13:52.41 | dwins | has never really seen the point of playlists in video players anyway |
| 13:53.34 | GNU\colossus | I don't see any reason in anything past plain "mplayer" on the video front, actually |
| 13:53.38 | sigma_ | well when im watchings series with pc on tv its kinda pointless because i have to open each episode manually |
| 13:53.39 | Gentle_ | dwins: a friend of mine likes to enqueue all episodes of a series he knows by heart and then put the player in random mode |
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| 13:54.08 | dwins | i guess he sees the point of playlists in a video player then :) |
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| 13:54.58 | Gentle_ | GNU\colossus: just to mention, mplayer can handle both playlists and multiple files as commandline parameters ;) |
| 13:55.04 | sigma_ | hopefully kaffeine rolls out a kde4 version |
| 13:55.36 | GNU\colossus | Gentle_: I'm aware of that yes :) |
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| 14:01.35 | DexterF | dwins: I don't use dolphin. konq on kde3. |
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| 14:02.10 | dwins | DexterF: if you're in kde3 then you should have kdf |
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| 14:02.21 | dwins | it's in kdeutils or kdeadmin i think |
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| 14:02.30 | Jucato | kdf is also in KDE 4 :) |
| 14:02.39 | Jucato | there's also filelight in kde3 |
| 14:02.39 | dwins | there you go then |
| 14:02.51 | Jucato | although that's not "monitoring"... |
| 14:03.01 | jthomas_ | I logged into my KDE this morning and all of my Konqueror windows have no Location nor Navigation toolbar, only the Location/Edit/View bar. How can I restore the others? KDE 3.5.9 on Debian Lenny. |
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| 14:04.41 | J-23 | is compiling KDE 4.1 :) |
| 14:07.35 | J-23 | Will DBus 1.2.1 work with KDE 4.1? |
| 14:08.19 | buscher | why not? it even works fine here with my kde-4.0.5 |
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| 14:09.02 | J-23 | Is CMake 2.4-patch 8 newer than 2.4.5? |
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| 14:10.51 | love^_^me | can any one help me how to make own server ? MIrc new server |
| 14:10.54 | love^_^me | love^_^me is using [IRCop ScripT ] by love^_^me |
| 14:11.07 | ethan961 | kick him |
| 14:11.09 | annma | love^_^me: ask your distro channel or some other channel |
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| 14:11.14 | ethan961 | ^^ proven troll |
| 14:11.21 | love^_^me | :S |
| 14:11.30 | annma | here it's about KDE |
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| 14:11.48 | thiago | J-23: 1.2.1 should work just fine. I'm using it. |
| 14:11.55 | ethan961 | he was just spamming #archlinux |
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| 14:12.07 | love^_^me | ethan shut up |
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| 14:12.17 | annma | lol |
| 14:12.18 | GNU\colossus | :-) |
| 14:12.23 | pinotree | lame stupid |
| 14:12.29 | ethan961 | well, can't hide the truth |
| 14:12.33 | ethan961 | :) |
| 14:12.44 | jthomas_ | no one knows how to restore my Konqueror navigation and address bars? |
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| 14:33.35 | poypoy | hi i need help real bad hope someone can help me pls |
| 14:33.59 | poypoy | im on ubuntu 8.04 and i have a photosmart p1000 printer ubuntu fineds ot fine but when i print it prints a line of letters and just never stops printing i have to take the paper out to stop it printing im only trying to print a documant |
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| 14:35.58 | ccamacho | I am really sorry to ask this again, but I didn't get any answer yesterday... is it possible to set by hand some shortcuts (keybindings) in KDE 4? can anyone tell me how to do it? |
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| 14:37.10 | Gentle_ | ccamacho: in kde3, it was under regional and accessibility. I don't have the kde4 controlcenter thingie installed currently |
| 14:38.57 | ccamacho | Gentle_: the problem is that doing it by the graphical interface makes Kwin crash... |
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| 14:39.18 | ccamacho | that's why I want to edit the files directly... |
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| 14:42.24 | logixoul | Hi, has Light Style rev.2 been ported to KDE4? |
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| 14:45.16 | drak20 | salam alikom |
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| 14:53.44 | chiiph | hi you all |
| 14:54.00 | chiiph | does anybody knows how to make my kde not to mess with the alsamixer config? |
| 14:55.03 | logixoul | don't run kmix? |
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| 14:55.48 | poseidon | When I try to log into kde as user it tells me that it can't lock $path/home/user. |
| 14:56.09 | poseidon | If I log in as root in the command line then use startx it works |
| 14:57.17 | logixoul | poseidon: check the perms |
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| 14:58.04 | poseidon | loglxoul, not sure how to |
| 14:58.28 | ashay | any one who has worked pam_access module restriction? |
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| 14:59.13 | logixoul | poseidon: in dolphin, rightclick inside your home dir and select "properties". look in the Permissions tab. |
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| 15:01.58 | poseidon | logixoul, it says user root group root (note I am logged in as root right now). |
| 15:02.23 | logixoul | poseidon: so that's the problem. You don't own your home dir, root does. |
| 15:02.36 | logixoul | poseidon: to fix it, first go to a terminal |
| 15:03.03 | logixoul | poseidon: and type this: chown -R poseidon:users /home/poseidon |
| 15:03.12 | logixoul | poseidon: it may take a few minutes to finish. |
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| 15:03.44 | poseidon | logixoul, it took a half a second. Is that not good? |
| 15:04.47 | logixoul | poseidon: probably not. ask in your distro channel. |
| 15:06.58 | poseidon | logixoul, I would, but I think that it redirects you from the channel if your logged in from root |
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| 15:07.05 | poseidon | I'll see if that fixed it though |
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| 15:08.44 | poseidon | logixoul, It worked. :) |
| 15:08.49 | logixoul | congrats |
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| 15:15.57 | ccamacho | how can I switch off all the KDE4 sounds (notifications)? |
| 15:19.56 | annma | in notifications in system settinggsq |
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| 15:22.03 | ccamacho | annma: thanks a lot... |
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| 15:30.02 | _friedrich| | uff, kinfocenter takes a big piece of the cpu-cake... |
| 15:30.37 | _friedrich| | when having "memory"-info opened |
| 15:30.50 | _friedrich| | about 15 % of 2.8 GHz dual.. |
| 15:31.03 | _friedrich| | looking at other options reduces it to 1 % |
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| 15:34.11 | DHowett | How would I change the icon used for a program? I was able to change the launcher icon for it, but I can't change its taskbar icon. It's currently an X with a circle around it. Meh. |
| 15:34.46 | annma | there are different sizes |
| 15:34.58 | annma | you need to install them all |
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| 15:37.33 | DHowett | they're all installed. where would i specify them. |
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| 15:38.55 | annma | what prog is it? |
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| 15:39.28 | DHowett | rxvt-unicode or urxvt |
| 15:40.02 | annma | not a KDE prog then |
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| 15:50.00 | DHowett | definitely a conclusion. |
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| 15:57.01 | sandsmark | okular(6445)/okular (app) Okular::Document::openDocument: No plugin for mimetype '"application/pdf"'. |
| 15:58.37 | DHowett | I don't understand the point of the "Zoom Out" and like functions. |
| 16:00.29 | sandsmark | I like turtles. |
| 16:01.01 | shyboy | hi! |
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| 16:07.14 | DHowett | Is there really no way to set a titlebar icon for an app? Really? Surprising, at 4.x |
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| 16:07.56 | bbelt16ag | hey peeps |
| 16:07.59 | bbelt16ag | got a question |
| 16:08.10 | bbelt16ag | <PROTECTED> |
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| 16:08.20 | bbelt16ag | eveytime I reinstall I gota re do them. |
| 16:08.32 | bbelt16ag | pain in the but when you have like 50 apps |
| 16:09.42 | bbelt16ag | ?? |
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| 16:20.19 | _ZeuZ_ | Hey guys, can somebody handle me the svns? I want to build .82 (last snapshot) |
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| 16:21.02 | huie | tries to make sense of that |
| 16:21.36 | DHowett | o.o |
| 16:21.51 | _ZeuZ_ | ain't .82 the last one on SVN? |
| 16:21.59 | DHowett | yep |
| 16:22.31 | _ZeuZ_ | then what I'm asking, is the svn address so I can build it myself... |
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| 16:23.00 | huie | Ahh |
| 16:23.10 | huie | assumes trunk :) |
| 16:23.26 | _ZeuZ_ | huie, assumes right ^_^ |
| 16:23.43 | huie | http://techbase.kde.org/Getting_Started/Build/KDE4 |
| 16:23.50 | _ZeuZ_ | appart from build-essentials, is there anything further I should gather? |
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| 16:24.17 | DanielW | _ZeuZ_: the svn adress is anonsvn.kde.org but you may want to read on techbase.kde.org how to build it. there is also a build script called kdesvn-build |
| 16:24.20 | huie | http://techbase.kde.org/Getting_Started/Build/kdesvn-build |
| 16:25.00 | Pollywog | hello, the cmake stuff is confusing to me, are there tutorials for KDE3? I would rather stick with those until I have learned some more |
| 16:25.43 | Pollywog | in other words, compiling KDE 4 is confusing with the change to cmake |
| 16:26.15 | DanielW | Pollywog: it is more easy with cmake. but just check out the kdesvn-build script it is really easy with that |
| 16:26.38 | Pollywog | DanielW: thanks |
| 16:26.40 | Jucato | Pollywog: why would you need to really know cmake just to build kde4? |
| 16:27.08 | DanielW | but with cmake you have nothing more do than create a build dir cd into that. and then run cmake pathtosrcdir and after that run make |
| 16:27.12 | Pollywog | well it complains that I need to have a separate build dir so I did that and then it complained about other things |
| 16:27.39 | Jucato | yes, but it's not cmake really at fault. KDE 4 made that policy |
| 16:27.39 | Pollywog | DanielW: and what about the TPYE? |
| 16:27.48 | Jucato | have you tried following the techbase guide for building KDE 4? |
| 16:27.56 | Jucato | it's as dirt simple (almost) as kdesvn-build |
| 16:28.01 | Pollywog | yes I was using techbase |
| 16:28.22 | Pollywog | it complained that I had to set TYPE or something |
| 16:28.24 | DanielW | Pollywog: cmake ../ -G "Unix Makefiles" -DCMAKE_BUILD_TYPE=debugfull <- i am using that where ../ is path to src dir |
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| 16:29.09 | Jucato | Pollywog: if you were following the techbase guide, you'd have a .bashrc that sets that |
| 16:29.22 | DanielW | yeah with type i think it want to now what kind of build system it should use. that could either be unix makefiles or kdevelop project files. on windows i think it can build visual studio project files |
| 16:29.26 | Pollywog | I did make the changes to .bashrc |
| 16:29.50 | Jucato | the -DCMAKE_BUILD_TYPE should be set already (debugfull afaik) |
| 16:30.13 | Jucato | you are using "cmakekde" right? |
| 16:30.24 | Pollywog | I should have written down the exact error |
| 16:30.30 | _ZeuZ_ | what about code optimization with cmake? |
| 16:30.53 | Jucato | _ZeuZ_: -O2 and stuff? |
| 16:30.58 | DanielW | Pollywog: but if you only want to build for yourself to use it, you should really try the buildsvn script. makes things sooo much easier |
| 16:31.21 | Pollywog | k I will compile QT again and use the script |
| 16:31.41 | DanielW | that script can compile qt |
| 16:31.44 | Pollywog | because kubuntu puts the QT stuff all over the place |
| 16:31.47 | Pollywog | oh? |
| 16:31.48 | Jucato | and yes, pastebin'ing the error helps a lot :) |
| 16:31.51 | Pollywog | good |
| 16:31.57 | _ZeuZ_ | Jucato, yup |
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| 16:32.04 | DanielW | there is a techbase site which explains it |
| 16:32.17 | Jucato | _ZeuZ_: the -DCMAKE_BUILD_TYPE constants already have those |
| 16:32.22 | Pollywog | I had to compile Qt which took all night |
| 16:32.30 | DanielW | Pollywog: http://techbase.kde.org/Getting_Started/Build/KDE4 |
| 16:32.36 | Jucato | but about specifying your own compile options? I guess you'll have to ask in #cmake |
| 16:32.42 | Jucato | isn't overly familiar with it either |
| 16:32.53 | DanielW | Pollywog: but i would recommend just use a release of qt 4.4 from your distribution. makes things easier |
| 16:32.55 | Pollywog | danielw that is what I used |
| 16:33.20 | Pollywog | danielw: no, because then Qt gets put all over the place |
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| 16:33.30 | Pollywog | and the scripts can't locate the parts |
| 16:33.48 | DanielW | and that is a problem? i am using normal system wide qt4 and kde in a users home dir |
| 16:33.57 | _ZeuZ_ | So, in another words, using the kdesvn script seems the easiest reliable way right? |
| 16:34.11 | Pollywog | I always have trouble unless I put QT in one place |
| 16:34.17 | DanielW | and that build script you do not have to do anything about cmake on your own |
| 16:34.24 | Pollywog | k |
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| 16:35.02 | _ZeuZ_ | For building the latest trunk, wich kdesvn script should I go for? de one on SVN or the stable one? |
| 16:35.02 | DanielW | _ZeuZ_: i think it is. it saves a lot of work. otherwise you would have to build every single kde module on your own. |
| 16:35.36 | Pollywog | remember that Kubuntu is still using KDE3.x |
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| 16:35.53 | DanielW | Pollywog: there are packages for kde4.1 beta 1 |
| 16:35.54 | Pollywog | so I would have two versions of QT on the same system |
| 16:36.03 | DanielW | qt3 and qt4 |
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| 16:36.09 | DanielW | i think they handel that somehow |
| 16:36.13 | Pollywog | danielw for Kubuntu? |
| 16:36.13 | _ZeuZ_ | DanielW, it also looks like following the commands and only the commands on the list you can pretty much have all things done easily |
| 16:36.21 | Pollywog | I have not seen them |
| 16:36.24 | _ZeuZ_ | Pollywog, yes, and those are usable on DEbian |
| 16:36.32 | _ZeuZ_ | Pollywog, I can handle you the repos |
| 16:36.38 | _ZeuZ_ | Pollywog, though it's .80 |
| 16:36.39 | Pollywog | k |
| 16:36.41 | Pollywog | thanks |
| 16:36.47 | DanielW | Pollywog: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.1beta1.php |
| 16:36.47 | Pollywog | that would be great |
| 16:37.17 | _ZeuZ_ | Pollywog, deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-members-kde4/ubuntu hardy main |
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| 16:37.40 | _ZeuZ_ | DanielW, appart from commands on the techbase, should I perform any step myself? |
| 16:37.41 | Pollywog | ty |
| 16:37.41 | Krooks | I get the following error in compiling skim. Anyone can help ? /usr/lib/gcc/i686-pc-linux-gnu/4.1.2/../../../../i686-pc-linux-gnu/bin/ld: cannot find -lscim-kdeutils |
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| 16:38.37 | krish | how do I forgo all my widgets changes and get default KDE 4 desktop |
| 16:38.41 | krish | ? |
| 16:38.57 | DanielW | _ZeuZ_: i think it is a lot of work to build kde without that svbbuild script. source you can follow the howto for it but it takes long you have to be at the computer the whole time and if you do build about every 3 days it is no fun ... |
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| 16:39.09 | krish | I added some widgets to my desktop and after restart plasma seems to crash |
| 16:39.22 | huie | krish: don't restart ^_^ |
| 16:39.26 | dwins | krish: "find .kde -name '*plasma*' -delete" |
| 16:39.28 | DanielW | krish: rm ~/.kde4/share/config/plasma* |
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| 16:40.03 | _ZeuZ_ | When is KDE 4.1 planned to be released? if it's WIR then tell me x'D |
| 16:40.11 | krish | gee thks |
| 16:40.20 | dwins | _ZeuZ_: there is a roadmap on techbase.kde.org |
| 16:40.32 | huie | _ZeuZ_: Release schedule actually |
| 16:40.32 | _ZeuZ_ | but an approximate date? |
| 16:40.45 | Pollywog | thanks folks I am getting the packages now |
| 16:40.46 | huie | I keep looking for roadmap when release schedule is what I want |
| 16:40.50 | krish | _ZeuZ_: same thing is there on techbase |
| 16:40.57 | Pollywog | thanks for being so patient with a newbie |
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| 16:41.22 | krish | Pollywog: return the favor to someone else |
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| 16:41.28 | Pollywog | aye :) |
| 16:41.43 | krish | goes to his PC to fix plasma |
| 16:42.38 | _ZeuZ_ | Holly crap! Coverswitch function seems lovely, and also seems like it's going to kick the similar functoin on compiz-fusion |
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| 16:43.10 | Jucato | for some yes, some no. but there is one area that KWin beats Compiz hands down |
| 16:43.33 | _ZeuZ_ | wich area Jucato? resource ussage? |
| 16:43.36 | Jucato | let's see you try to make Compiz work *without* compositing :) |
| 16:43.57 | dwins | plus, you know, general wm weirdness |
| 16:44.11 | dwins | menus actually showing up above the display they're on, that kind of thing |
| 16:44.12 | Jucato | KWin will work with or without compositing. of course, you won't have effects. but you'll have a usable desktop :) |
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| 16:45.05 | _ZeuZ_ | Jucato, you can have a usable desktop without compiz directly ^_^ |
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| 16:45.21 | _ZeuZ_ | not handing pretty much a lot of memory and processor ussage on effects ^_^ |
| 16:45.43 | Jucato | _ZeuZ_: it will fallback to another window manager. which means you need to have two window managers installed, one for backup |
| 16:45.46 | _ZeuZ_ | dwins: what's with that wm weirdness ? |
| 16:45.58 | Jucato | _ZeuZ_: <dwins> menus actually showing up above the display they're on, that kind of thing |
| 16:46.03 | _ZeuZ_ | Jucato, like kwin and emerald? |
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| 16:46.21 | dwins | of course, I meant 'window' instead of 'display' |
| 16:46.23 | dwins | but whatever |
| 16:46.42 | huie | They should go below the window? |
| 16:46.58 | _ZeuZ_ | what about the wobbling windows? will kwin be able to use them without compiz? |
| 16:47.02 | dwins | huie: they should go above it |
| 16:47.03 | Jucato | _ZeuZ_: emerald is not a window manager. it's a window decoration for compiz |
| 16:47.11 | Jucato | _ZeuZ_: it already has one |
| 16:47.32 | huie | dwins: That's what you said happened and you said it was weird |
| 16:47.46 | dwins | huie: stop picking, I think it's clear what I meant |
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| 16:48.04 | _ZeuZ_ | what about some effect like cubic desktop? |
| 16:48.10 | huie | Guess it wasn't to me |
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| 16:48.18 | huie | _ZeuZ_: S0C |
| 16:48.23 | huie | SoC |
| 16:48.24 | Jucato | _ZeuZ_: it's in the works |
| 16:48.31 | _ZeuZ_ | SoC? |
| 16:48.32 | _ZeuZ_ | Oh |
| 16:48.36 | Jucato | Summer of Code |
| 16:48.54 | _ZeuZ_ | Jucato, so I guess soon enough there will be no need for compiz in KDE |
| 16:49.15 | Jucato | depends on what you actually needed compiz for :) |
| 16:49.18 | huie | is of the opinion there is no need for Compiz anywhere |
| 16:49.26 | _ZeuZ_ | x'D |
| 16:49.31 | Jucato | I absolutely hated the cube :) |
| 16:49.35 | bgmiki | effects works nice with new xorg and 173.14 |
| 16:49.36 | _ZeuZ_ | I mean for the sake of a "cool desktop" |
| 16:49.45 | huie | Jucato: Wait for the Sphere it's 1337!! |
| 16:49.51 | Jucato | O.o |
| 16:49.56 | _ZeuZ_ | sphere effect? |
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| 16:49.59 | huie | Yeah |
| 16:50.02 | Jucato | never seen the movie, never read the book :) |
| 16:50.11 | Jucato | I doubt I'll like the effect :P |
| 16:50.12 | huie | HA ha |
| 16:50.14 | _ZeuZ_ | any "preview" of it? |
| 16:50.17 | huie | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2oSELcGZ4lY |
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| 16:50.46 | _ZeuZ_ | btw: as a bug report, konqueror crashes very often with Hotmail/Passport |
| 16:51.43 | _ZeuZ_ | but that sphere effect aint for compiz? |
| 16:51.57 | Jucato | as if using a cube isn't hard enough :P |
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| 16:52.35 | _ZeuZ_ | So, clarify me something: with kwin alone, can I have wobbly windows with KDE? |
| 16:52.54 | Jucato | in KDE 4.1 yes |
| 16:53.27 | Jucato | tbh, while it's fun to play with.. after a few minutes with it, I feel nauseous... |
| 16:53.28 | _ZeuZ_ | no need for compiz for that? wiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii =) |
| 16:54.28 | huie | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8AoS9RASljU&feature=related << Jucato |
| 16:54.46 | buntfalke | How to make konqueror open without anything in the adress bar? |
| 16:55.06 | buntfalke | I want to have the cursor in there right away, so i can start typen an adress, or keywords to search |
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| 16:56.24 | huie | _ZeuZ_: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7CsSPnYsqVA&feature=related |
| 16:56.28 | kdepepo | buntfalke, menu->settings->save profile "name"->... UNcheck "save address" |
| 16:56.39 | dwins | buntfalke: also, krunner |
| 16:56.48 | dwins | alt+f2-> type in stuff |
| 16:56.58 | kdepepo | buntfalke, next time you run, it will open empty (thats how I use it, too) |
| 16:57.49 | buntfalke | kdepepo, dwins: thanks! |
| 16:57.50 | buntfalke | Uh - at three, everyone. One, two, three: "KDE Kicks Ass!" :-) |
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| 16:58.29 | Jucato | unfortunately in Konqueror 4, it doesn't focus the Location bar at start :( |
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| 16:58.45 | buntfalke | Really? :-( |
| 16:58.53 | buntfalke | I hope someone can fix that... |
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| 17:00.57 | _ZeuZ_ | I don't really like sphere effect hehe |
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| 17:01.59 | Half-Left | My KDE 4.1 trunk video is nice :) |
| 17:02.15 | krish | Half-Left: show me |
| 17:02.28 | _ZeuZ_ | Half-Left, show me too :) |
| 17:02.32 | Half-Left | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRXSM7y3Uv0 |
| 17:02.55 | Half-Left | Will do a newer one soon |
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| 17:04.56 | _ZeuZ_ | Half-Left, hardware specs? |
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| 17:05.07 | jazka | eating tv :) |
| 17:05.24 | SSJ_GZ | _ZeuZ_: See youtube comments |
| 17:05.26 | DHowett | wait. eating TV? mmm |
| 17:05.31 | SSJ_GZ | Half-Left: Nice work, BTW :) |
| 17:05.38 | Half-Left | :) |
| 17:05.54 | buntfalke | dwins: i cannot open krunner and then type "foo" and make it search that on the web, can I? |
| 17:05.55 | krish | huh my firefox is throwing tantarums for flash |
| 17:06.12 | _ZeuZ_ | Now I see why it runs so smoothly too xD |
| 17:06.16 | buntfalke | dwins: it can be used for quick entry of commands, sure, but web? |
| 17:06.19 | krish | Half-Left: cant check it now |
| 17:06.32 | DHowett | buntfalke: you might be able to do "gg:foo", but I don't know |
| 17:06.38 | Half-Left | No worries |
| 17:07.40 | buntfalke | DHowett: my wikipedia shortcut "w foo" didnt work |
| 17:08.00 | DHowett | buntfalke: "wp:foo"? |
| 17:08.10 | buntfalke | neither do others, also not with : |
| 17:08.31 | DHowett | buntfalke: the konqueror shortcuts are normally a couple letters, : and then the terms. |
| 17:08.39 | buntfalke | no, seems like a) it cant do that or b) i miss something - but an empty adress bar on konqi when it starts is enough for me |
| 17:08.44 | DHowett | hmm |
| 17:08.52 | buntfalke | DHowett: sure - but i changed them all :-) |
| 17:08.56 | DHowett | ahh |
| 17:09.00 | buntfalke | doesnt really matter anyway |
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| 17:11.15 | Half-Left | _ZeuZ_, 486, 16Mb ram, 2Mb S3 graphics card, works well eh? |
| 17:11.37 | Krooks | I get the following error in compiling skim. Anyone can help ? /usr/lib/gcc/i686-pc-linux-gnu/4.1.2/../../../../i686-pc-linux-gnu/bin/ld: cannot find -lscim-kdeutils |
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| 17:15.21 | Half-Left | Krooks, Whats skim? |
| 17:15.36 | Krooks | Its kde version of scim |
| 17:15.44 | _ZeuZ_ | <Half-Left> _ZeuZ_, 486, 16Mb ram, 2Mb S3 graphics card, works well eh? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> WTF? |
| 17:15.45 | Krooks | language thingy |
| 17:16.04 | _ZeuZ_ | xD |
| 17:16.09 | _ZeuZ_ | That's not even credible |
| 17:16.15 | Half-Left | _ZeuZ_, OWNED :p |
| 17:16.36 | _ZeuZ_ | at least try to lie a little better :P or before I've read the comments |
| 17:16.53 | Half-Left | Krooks, Your compiling it as part of kde packages for your distro? |
| 17:17.11 | Krooks | Half-Left: Well for Gentoo |
| 17:17.16 | Krooks | meta file |
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| 17:17.42 | Half-Left | kdeutils is a clue |
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| 17:20.10 | Krooks | Half-Left: But there is no such thing as -lscim-kdeutils . I google it/ Not much found |
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| 17:20.27 | Half-Left | you have kdeutils installed? |
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| 17:20.57 | Half-Left | maybe kdeutils was not compiled with scim |
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| 17:21.28 | _apk | hi! :) |
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| 17:22.29 | _apk | I'm searching a way to let konqueror save my session, like firefox does: e.g. when my pc hangs I reboot it and then firefox ask me if I want to start a new session or restart the old one |
| 17:22.45 | _apk | has anyone ever done this? thak you :) |
| 17:23.19 | Half-Left | _apk, version 4.1 has session restore |
| 17:23.32 | _apk | is it usable in kde 3.x? |
| 17:23.44 | Half-Left | no, because it's not 4.1 :p |
| 17:24.03 | Krooks | Half-Left: how do I check if kdeutils is compiled with scim ? |
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| 17:24.18 | PragmticAnarchy | hiyall |
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| 17:24.48 | _apk | ah ok Half-Left! I thought that you were talking about konqueror version 4.1, and not kde version 4.1 :P |
| 17:24.53 | Half-Left | Krooks, See if it's installed, looks like it's not and recompile kdeutils with scim installed |
| 17:25.05 | Half-Left | _apk, KDE 4.1 :) |
| 17:25.07 | _apk | maybe I have, for curiosity, give a try to kde 4.x :) |
| 17:25.51 | PragmticAnarchy | i need to know how to reset the KDE4 configuration, i have installed it an runed, but i broke it activating all the screen efects.. now i need to put it as default but KDE4 wont start.. sorry about ma english.. it sux |
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| 17:27.52 | PragmticAnarchy | oh im runing on a gentoo amd64 box |
| 17:27.53 | Krooks | Half-Left: Ok rebuilding kdeutils. Hope it works after that. This is will a little time. |
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| 17:28.32 | Krooks | Half-Left: Where is Half-Right ? |
| 17:28.44 | Krooks | Does he know you are here ? |
| 17:28.48 | Half-Left | Krooks, Eaten |
| 17:31.13 | Half-Left | Back later KDE dudes |
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| 17:40.25 | Captainchris | hi everybody i hacve a little problem to,make kdebase |
| 17:40.45 | Captainchris | it say error with XrenderVisualFormat , but libXcb is installed |
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| 18:10.23 | pinotree | sandsmark: and you wonder? |
| 18:10.43 | sandsmark | eh? |
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| 18:11.33 | sandsmark | oh, okular? |
| 18:11.39 | sandsmark | I guess I'm missing something =) |
| 18:12.14 | pinotree | yeah, http://okular.kde.org/download.php |
| 18:13.31 | sandsmark | =) |
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| 18:20.40 | sandsmark | the okular kpart is in kdelibs, I guess? |
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| 18:21.35 | pinotree | no |
| 18:22.04 | sandsmark | kdebase-apps? |
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| 18:22.38 | sandsmark | kdegraphics =) |
| 18:23.00 | aadebiyi | my satellite E3A is going wack. any help |
| 18:23.02 | pinotree | wonders whether sandsmark is a packager for real |
| 18:23.17 | pinotree | aadebiyi: go to #flood, they can help |
| 18:23.31 | sandsmark | a slow one, at that |
| 18:23.36 | erikh | greetings KDE folk: can someone answer a KDE API question for me? |
| 18:23.44 | pinotree | erikh: #kde-devel |
| 18:23.48 | erikh | thanks. |
| 18:23.49 | Elbar | kde-base/okular-9999 (/usr/kde/svn/bin/okular) |
| 18:24.08 | sandsmark | Elbar: gentoo? |
| 18:24.08 | pinotree | that does not imply it's in kdebase |
| 18:24.12 | Elbar | oh |
| 18:24.17 | Elbar | yes...actually |
| 18:25.05 | aadebiyi | thanks for the response, ineed the list other usefull channels |
| 18:25.38 | sandsmark | aadebiyi: you could probably try #kaffeine too, they do satellite stuff =) |
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| 18:32.26 | bgmiki | huh ...kde4 have everything but no weather applet or widget |
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| 18:34.28 | sandsmark | bgmiki: which distro? |
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| 18:35.14 | sandsmark | I have one =) |
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| 18:35.43 | sandsmark | I think it is in playground, look for a plasma playground package |
| 18:35.50 | bgmiki | sandsmark, svn trunk |
| 18:36.12 | sandsmark | well, check out and build playground/base/plasma, or thereabouts =) |
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| 18:36.33 | sandsmark | svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/trunk/playground/base/plasma =) |
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| 18:36.54 | bgmiki | i see but if this call weather widget my name is Charl Darwin |
| 18:37.26 | sandsmark | Indeed. |
| 18:37.50 | sandsmark | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:38.32 | bgmiki | disable this |
| 18:38.35 | bgmiki | :) |
| 18:38.45 | sandsmark | disable what? |
| 18:38.54 | bgmiki | joke |
| 18:39.18 | sandsmark | oh, whoooosh -> |
| 18:39.29 | sandsmark | also a joke =) |
| 18:39.54 | bgmiki | i try to enable weather in kontact but nothing |
| 18:40.16 | sandsmark | oh |
| 18:40.55 | bgmiki | wow football ... |
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| 18:42.46 | n3kl | When is kde4.1 comming out. |
| 18:42.59 | n3kl | I head there were a lot of improvements |
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| 18:43.46 | AlexElliott | n3kl: http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.1_Release_Schedule |
| 18:44.06 | sandsmark | damn, beaten to the paste =P |
| 18:44.13 | AlexElliott | Victory ;) |
| 18:44.19 | sandsmark | ^_^ |
| 18:46.00 | n3kl | Nice, thanks. |
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| 18:47.43 | sandsmark | n3kl: techbase is the right place if you ever wonder about anything in KDE, btw =) |
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| 18:51.30 | huie | "in" kde |
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| 18:53.31 | gregp_ | Hello. I'm using okular on Fedora 9 (KDE4) via kile (with the KDE3 libs), and I find that okular will not print more than one copy |
| 18:53.43 | gregp_ | no problem with dvips from the command line |
| 18:53.56 | pinotree | Qt does not allow us to now how many copies print |
| 18:54.08 | gregp_ | bummer |
| 18:54.14 | pinotree | and no, there is no kdeprint in kde4 |
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| 18:54.32 | krish | my .stringi has become 31G |
| 18:54.34 | krish | !!! |
| 18:54.43 | gregp_ | so there's no workaround? |
| 18:55.10 | gregp_ | I've looked at various settings and can't find any |
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| 19:02.09 | angasule | hi everybody :) |
| 19:02.16 | maazu | hi |
| 19:02.21 | huie | !hi |
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| 19:03.00 | maazu | angasule: did you know kde4.1 is scheduled to be out by end of july? |
| 19:03.04 | angasule | I'm using kde4.1 beta and I would like to know the proper channel to speak to the ark people, I need to make insulting comments about their mothers and/or sisters |
| 19:03.32 | huie | #gnome-complaints |
| 19:03.37 | angasule | heh |
| 19:03.43 | huie | koffs |
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| 19:04.14 | angasule | for some reason ark ignored the directory contained within a .tgz and threw all the junk in my home dir |
| 19:04.19 | huie | What issue lies with ark now? |
| 19:04.27 | huie | ah |
| 19:04.33 | huie | that sucks |
| 19:04.53 | angasule | I know, maybe ark developers don't have mothers, they came through the gates of hell |
| 19:05.36 | angasule | oh, no, I'm sorry, my mistake |
| 19:05.52 | angasule | it didn't ignore the directory inside the .tgz, it ignored /all/ directories |
| 19:06.11 | huie | angasule: that almost sounds like a setting |
| 19:06.13 | angasule | so basically instead of creating a tree structure, it dumped a bunch of files |
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| 19:06.58 | angasule | huie: default settings, I never use ark, but dolphin doesn't have an "extract all" on .tgz files |
| 19:07.03 | maazu | angasule: i recently did levelorderTraversal for binary tree |
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| 19:07.17 | muramasa | Hello :-) is it possible to make Dolphin the default file manager rather than konqeuror? |
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| 19:07.36 | angasule | maazu: well, fix ark or I shall taunt you again! |
| 19:07.48 | maazu | muramasa: in fedora9 dolphin is the default |
| 19:07.57 | huie | but you have been taunting his mother... |
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| 19:08.00 | maazu | gulps |
| 19:08.05 | muramasa | maazu: sorry, forgot to mention that i'm using gentoo |
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| 19:10.34 | angasule | I just checked, ark has no settings about how to extract things |
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| 19:11.31 | maazu | hah! i thought so, ark relies on mime-types to do the magic |
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| 19:12.11 | Kraplax | hi all =) |
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| 19:12.33 | Kraplax | a'm here just to say - thank you guys and ladies! |
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| 19:13.04 | huie | What about the robots? :( |
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| 19:13.11 | Kraplax | thank you for making all this happen! KDE4 is really rocks. I know it. |
| 19:13.24 | Kraplax | So, bots are cool too ) |
| 19:13.44 | alyawn | hi! my sound in KDE 4.0.5 recently stopped working. What program does KDE use when "Use the KDE sound system" is checked? |
| 19:13.47 | huie | Kraplax: which version are you using? |
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| 19:14.22 | Kraplax | i'm kde on win, but still ) |
| 19:14.38 | apacheRTR | stringidaemon is using 77% of my CPU time!!! |
| 19:14.45 | huie | Kraplax: Whoot \ |
| 19:14.47 | huie | o/ |
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| 19:15.02 | apacheRTR | people run KDE on mac also |
| 19:15.09 | Kraplax | i know ) |
| 19:15.18 | Kraplax | and it's reaallllyy kool |
| 19:15.26 | apacheRTR | Kraplax: that was for huie |
| 19:15.32 | Kraplax | =) |
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| 19:17.17 | huie | apacheRTR: I know it's what made my friend buy a mac |
| 19:17.44 | apacheRTR | ?!@#$!@# |
| 19:18.12 | apacheRTR | my friend monzie runs it on mac, opensolaris, windows and hmm doesnt run it on linux |
| 19:18.33 | Kraplax | ??? |
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| 19:18.40 | Elbar | prolly using gnome on linux? ; ) |
| 19:19.07 | huie | apacheRTR: Missing the best platform :-) |
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| 19:19.33 | apacheRTR | hm I suppose he is also writing a book on KDE4 development |
| 19:19.40 | apacheRTR | or is it called development with KDE4 |
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| 19:20.32 | Kraplax | ok, bye for now ) i need to have a rest. |
| 19:20.45 | Kraplax | but you'll always rock! =) and bots too ) |
| 19:20.58 | cassiopea | Hey. I need to find a way to upload a .vcf phonebook file to my cellphone, but when I plug my cellphone into my computer with the USB cable, it just reads it as a usb modem or usb memory stick, whichever I set the phone to. I understand KMobilePhoneTools or Kandy can upload the phonebook anyway, is that right? |
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| 19:24.15 | angasule | just squashed a bug |
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| 19:26.45 | EvanR | ok |
| 19:27.28 | EvanR | points tips reference to up to date information on enabling hal support during the build of kde base, everything seems to go correctly except the end result is no hal backend to media:/ |
| 19:27.37 | EvanR | pointers* |
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| 19:29.02 | huie | angasule: Which? |
| 19:29.23 | angasule | huie: a little one that was walking on my screen |
| 19:29.28 | angasule | I hit it with a sock |
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| 19:29.54 | huie | starched sock? |
| 19:30.28 | angasule | nope, just some sock that's too tight to use, so I keep it around to clean the desk or squash bugs that are attracted to the light of the screen |
| 19:31.34 | apacheRTR | waits for stringi solution |
| 19:31.47 | huie | apacheRTR: strigi ? |
| 19:32.12 | huie | what is stringi ? |
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| 19:32.21 | apacheRTR | yeah right |
| 19:32.22 | apacheRTR | strigi |
| 19:32.23 | apacheRTR | typo |
| 19:32.29 | huie | apacheRTR: #strigi |
| 19:32.49 | apacheRTR | thks |
| 19:33.31 | apacheRTR | huie: wouldnt it be rude to ask... "I dont want to use strigi.. how to disable it" in #strigi :) |
| 19:33.51 | huie | apacheRTR: depends on how you say it |
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| 19:34.21 | huie | apacheRTR: but if you give reasons why and it makes a better strigi they will be happy :) |
| 19:34.29 | Alethes | "Dear God make it stop!" might help :D |
| 19:34.41 | maazu | preparing for a brand new day |
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| 19:35.08 | bbelt16ag | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:35.38 | bbelt16ag | like my sessons and stuff everytime I reinstall I got to re do it all I can understand the themese and the like having to be redone that's fine. |
| 19:35.46 | bbelt16ag | or like loading a theme that is s aved. |
| 19:35.59 | bbelt16ag | I could probably find that out but how do I save all these icons and stuff on my panels |
| 19:36.15 | angasule | hmm, I can't find a good GUI tool to make a .tar.gz |
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| 19:37.34 | angasule | right clicking on dolphin or konqueror doesn't give the 'compress' option |
| 19:38.15 | huie | I know that's annoying |
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| 19:41.03 | Yarcanox | I have a question about JuK - where is the best place to ask? I'd just like to know if there's a way to make the collection list show only albums (but show all the single titles of those which have no album) so I can find and select my different albums faster |
| 19:42.45 | Foriskak | anyone know how to make kwrite fix the indentation automatically after cutting an if block? |
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| 19:43.29 | Yarcanox | Foriskak can't the automatic intendation handle that? |
| 19:43.46 | angasule | gaaah, krusader's function to make a .tar.gz isn't working :( |
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| 19:43.53 | Yarcanox | all I know is that kate's intendation is very great |
| 19:44.22 | angasule | wants kvim to be brought back from the dead |
| 19:44.30 | Yarcanox | and as kate handles sessions aswell (but you don't need to use them), it can imho easily replace kwrite :) if you haven't tried it yet |
| 19:44.41 | Yarcanox | hm |
| 19:44.44 | Yarcanox | angasule kvim? |
| 19:44.46 | Yarcanox | sounds interesting |
| 19:44.47 | Yarcanox | what is it? |
| 19:44.49 | Yarcanox | googles |
| 19:45.05 | angasule | Yarcanox: like gvim, but for kde? :) |
| 19:45.12 | Yarcanox | From Freehackers. Jump to: navigation, search. KVim has changed its name and is now called Yzis |
| 19:45.20 | Yarcanox | http://www.yzis.org/ <= |
| 19:45.24 | Yarcanox | sure that it is inactive? |
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| 19:45.48 | Foriskak | yarcanox...maybe it's off somehow |
| 19:46.47 | apacheRTR | I guess I'll just do apt-get remove strigi-daemon |
| 19:47.01 | angasule | it's alive, but it's 'inspired by vim', I want vim :) |
| 19:47.07 | Foriskak | yarcanox...I've got 3 styles to choose from |
| 19:47.13 | Foriskak | C indenter, normal, and LISP |
| 19:47.17 | GraveDigger | strigi is essential part of kde4, i doubt it can be removed that easily |
| 19:47.25 | Foriskak | I just want blocks inset by a tab :) |
| 19:47.26 | Yarcanox | Foriskak are you programming C? |
| 19:47.27 | GraveDigger | (without removing kde4 as well) |
| 19:47.31 | Foriskak | yarcan...perl |
| 19:47.40 | Yarcanox | that sounds like you wanted the C indenter |
| 19:47.51 | Yarcanox | dunno perl that much, but most stuff I've seen from it looks similar to C |
| 19:48.14 | EvanR | c doesnt have array ops |
| 19:48.24 | Yarcanox | hm |
| 19:48.24 | Foriskak | reopened the file and it works |
| 19:48.29 | Yarcanox | :) |
| 19:48.34 | Foriskak | the relief just washes ove rme |
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| 19:48.52 | apacheRTR | hmm that stopped the daemon |
| 19:49.04 | apacheRTR | and I deleted all files from .strigi/clucene |
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| 19:49.17 | apacheRTR | no idea if this will affect my next start |
| 19:50.08 | huie | angasule: Kate has a vim mode in KDE4 |
| 19:50.51 | angasule | huie: does it include vim? or it has a vi mode? vim is way better than just vi, that's why I like it in particular |
| 19:51.33 | Yarcanox | kate is just cool :) |
| 19:51.40 | huie | angasule: Don't know don't like Vim never used it |
| 19:51.44 | Yarcanox | dolphin isn't. crashes too much :'( |
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| 19:52.37 | angasule | still can't find a way to select a few files and make a .tar.gz or .zip |
| 19:54.35 | EvanR | right click choose 'zip these' :) |
| 19:54.49 | EvanR | if the option aint there, add it with a .desktop file |
| 19:55.26 | angasule | EvanR: it isn't there, I've never done anything with a .desktop file, where do I get docs about it? |
| 19:55.40 | EvanR | good question i have always wanted to know that |
| 19:56.06 | angasule | what program do they affect? |
| 19:56.12 | EvanR | all of kde |
| 19:56.19 | EvanR | as far as i can tell |
| 19:56.23 | angasule | where are they placed? examples I can learn from? |
| 19:56.36 | EvanR | they are spread around in your kde directory |
| 19:56.39 | angasule | google is rather useless for searching this, since it ignores the dot |
| 19:56.46 | EvanR | well its useless for most kde stuff |
| 19:56.52 | EvanR | in my experience |
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| 19:57.53 | EvanR | angasule: for example look in $KDE_PREFIX/share/applications |
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| 19:58.27 | Pollywog | what is qt-copy? |
| 19:59.07 | Anonycat | If I'm using Dolphin 4.0.5 on KDE 4.0.4, is there a communication error with the ioslaves that leads to me being unable to load an sftp:/ address? |
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| 20:03.41 | Staticwave_Ace | hello all, trying to find out something about kopete |
| 20:03.52 | Staticwave_Ace | does anyone know what calls it makes to a v4l device to set it up? |
| 20:04.09 | Staticwave_Ace | because it sets up my webcam just right, and I'd like to use identical settings in mencoder |
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| 20:04.33 | NickNak | angasule: http://developer.kde.org/documentation/tutorials/dot/servicemenus.html |
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| 20:07.37 | angasule | thanks! |
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| 20:13.29 | NickNak | angasule: have you tried installing Ark? |
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| 20:17.13 | angasule | NickNak: I have ark, it's broken |
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| 20:19.22 | EvanR | i saw that one page about the services, and thats how i know that its possible |
| 20:19.37 | EvanR | but its far from a exaustive list of all possible key value pairs |
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| 20:39.50 | oneforall | hmm I see Nokia at it already with the purchase of qt . wants developers to play by their rules but Admits we are not yet ready to play by the rules; |
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| 20:48.27 | MinceR | indeed |
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| 20:49.12 | MinceR | they're trying to push their filthy DRM everywhere |
| 20:49.33 | MinceR | that's why they sabotaged HTML 5 too, iirc |
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| 20:50.19 | angasule | what is the pdf viewer in 4.1beta? |
| 20:50.23 | pinotree | okular |
| 20:50.34 | angasule | thanks |
| 20:50.59 | angasule | oh, it has the "obey DRM limitations" checkbox :) |
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| 20:53.03 | bbelt16ag | <PROTECTED> |
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| 20:54.16 | Anonycat | If I'm using Dolphin 4.0.5 on KDE 4.0.4, is there a communication error with the ioslaves that leads to me being unable to load an sftp:/ address? |
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| 20:55.57 | Fujisan | annma |
| 20:56.01 | Fujisan | i told you D: |
| 20:56.06 | Fujisan | 4-1 |
| 20:56.18 | annma | yeah but I prefer our game |
| 20:56.33 | annma | 2 teams will go out anyway |
| 20:56.53 | annma | Fujisan: we got it all anyway recently |
| 20:56.59 | annma | we cannot always win |
| 20:57.09 | annma | time for the Oranje to make their comeback |
| 20:57.13 | Fujisan | :P |
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| 20:58.02 | Fujisan | robben so good |
| 20:58.02 | Fujisan | i didnt expect i thought 1st half france will win |
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| 20:58.02 | Fujisan | france was better |
| 20:58.02 | Sput | now they need to lose against romania to kick both france and italy out |
| 20:58.02 | Fujisan | whole 1st half |
| 20:58.38 | Fujisan | yeah |
| 20:58.41 | Fujisan | well i dunno |
| 20:58.50 | Fujisan | Holland will play with their worst players |
| 20:58.51 | _friedrich| | nepomuksearch:/ <- why isn't that protocol supported, if I'm running nepomuk and strigi? |
| 20:59.08 | Fujisan | so romania has a chance |
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| 21:07.21 | _ZeuZ_ | hey guys, where can I change the brightness of the display/monitor in kde 4.1 ? |
| 21:08.24 | angasule | umh, there is a little know on the monitor...? |
| 21:08.36 | angasule | s/know/knob/ |
| 21:08.53 | _ZeuZ_ | angasule, I told Display for something, it's a LAPTOP |
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| 21:09.13 | _ZeuZ_ | and it's gotta be through software, in kcontrol center you can do it, though this is not in KDE 4.1 |
| 21:09.29 | Pollywog | okay I think I found out what qt-copy is and I am getting it |
| 21:09.46 | angasule | hmm, my laptop can do it with special buttons :D don't know how to do it in software, my laptop is a bit low spec for kde4 |
| 21:09.53 | _ZeuZ_ | not mine |
| 21:10.22 | _ZeuZ_ | lol then won't spect answers coming from ya ;) |
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| 21:10.49 | angasule | nope, sorry :) |
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| 21:18.23 | angasule | oh, hmm, I'm leaving, and that reminded me of something, |
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| 21:18.59 | angasule | could the "lock" button be further down? isn't lock meant to be used more often than 'reboot' and 'shut down'? |
| 21:20.19 | Pollywog | there seems to be contradictory advice about having a separate kde-devel account but I think it's a good idea so I won't screw up my regular account |
| 21:20.33 | Shapeshifter | I need a nice image viewer. Now I isntalled gwenview and it looks okay, but when I doubleclick on an image file, gwenview is somehow embedded into konqueror. I already chose "show file in seperate viewer" in konqueror options, but still, gwenview seems to be part of konqueror. Only if I rightclick and "open with" gwenview, it get detached. How can I always open image files outside konqueror? |
| 21:20.34 | Pollywog | makes mistakes |
| 21:21.01 | Pollywog | did you install the regular gwenview package? |
| 21:21.11 | Pollywog | or the kde one? |
| 21:21.54 | Pollywog | I have both installed |
| 21:22.00 | Shapeshifter | Pollywog: I'm on archlinux and I just installed "gwenview" |
| 21:22.06 | Pollywog | oic |
| 21:22.12 | Pollywog | brb UPS is here I think |
| 21:22.32 | Pollywog | I have both installed and I can get gwenview sans Konq |
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| 21:23.01 | Shapeshifter | I can "get" that too, but not by just doubleclicking... |
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| 21:23.59 | Shapeshifter | not seriously |
| 21:24.14 | GraveDigger | xD |
| 21:24.24 | GraveDigger | he tries it again and again |
| 21:24.35 | Shapeshifter | that's a joke right |
| 21:24.54 | GraveDigger | of course |
| 21:25.02 | Shapeshifter | funny. |
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| 21:26.03 | Shapeshifter | Pollywog: I had to re-set gwenview as the "standard program" to open jpg files and now it's fine |
| 21:26.28 | Pollywog | Oh I see what the problem was, you needed to change the file associations |
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| 21:27.41 | Pollywog | my nick seemed to work |
| 21:27.57 | Shapeshifter | Pollywog: well in the konqueror options under file associations, gwenview was already the first choice for jpg but it seems like that wasn't enough. I went through "open with" / "other..." and then "always use this..." |
| 21:28.14 | Pollywog | i c |
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| 21:30.37 | Shapeshifter | Weird, for bigger images (done with a better cam) gwenview always "builds-up" the images that follow. It seems like it doesn't preload at all. For smaller images it's instant. Does gwenview even cache or not? I definetly want a viewer that preloads following images for instant display |
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| 21:32.49 | jcarlos | My third question. Perhaps I am lucky with that: Is there a bug or something in kwin that prevents the shadow effect to work ? |
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| 21:33.38 | J-23 | good night |
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| 21:39.06 | Pollywog | dang ubuntu update broke virtualbox again |
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| 21:44.46 | sandsmark | jcarlos: the shadow works here |
| 21:44.48 | sandsmark | =) |
| 21:45.07 | sandsmark | it is kind of b0rked, though, it is square, while the window is rounded |
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| 22:10.36 | Half-Left | What was the order of compile again for kde4 trunk? |
| 22:11.05 | Half-Left | kdelibs, kdepimlibs, kdesupport, kdebase? |
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| 22:14.10 | RobNyc | hey guys what is the new program for ark ? oh zip |
| 22:14.15 | RobNyc | in kde 4 |
| 22:14.20 | aseigo | ark |
| 22:14.35 | Half-Left | Ark but better looking :p |
| 22:14.49 | Half-Left | aseigo, Hows it going? |
| 22:15.36 | RobNyc | im tryin to zip this folder i just created how can i ? |
| 22:15.38 | aseigo | Half-Left: good |
| 22:16.15 | Half-Left | RobNyc, Right click-->Actions |
| 22:16.40 | RobNyc | Half-Left: but it wants to encrypt as well |
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| 22:17.28 | xif | hi! |
| 22:17.30 | xif | what's the keybinding for "refresh", besides F5? |
| 22:17.41 | xif | (on Konqueror) |
| 22:19.02 | dwinslow | xif: whatever you make it |
| 22:19.04 | Half-Left | RobNyc, Looks liek that feature is not in yet, just like extract |
| 22:19.15 | dwinslow | you can set it in settings->configure shortcuts |
| 22:19.22 | xif | dwinslow: ah, kewlness |
| 22:19.23 | dwinslow | (that's also the way to find the current shortcuts) |
| 22:19.23 | xif | thanks. |
| 22:20.07 | Anonycat | speaking of Konqueror, mine fails to open at all |
| 22:20.19 | Anonycat | here's what happens when I try - http://dpaste.com/56522/ - what could be wrong there? |
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| 22:22.02 | xif | what does XF86Refresh as a keyboard shortcut mean? |
| 22:22.03 | Half-Left | does a svn up nightly |
| 22:22.37 | Anonycat | do you have "media keys" on your keyboard? |
| 22:22.46 | Anonycat | if so, look for the one with a Refresh icon |
| 22:22.53 | hays | the cleanest way for me to do it is to uninstall/reinstall |
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| 22:23.01 | Half-Left | Media keys are the bane of all evil |
| 22:23.32 | xif | Anonycat: ah I do not have "media keys". |
| 22:23.46 | xif | guess I'll get rid of it in favor of Ctrl-R! |
| 22:24.11 | hays | If they are a bane of evil, then they are a good thing |
| 22:24.24 | hays | since they would be ruining evil |
| 22:24.54 | Half-Left | They should be shot, with a BIG gun |
| 22:25.28 | Half-Left | Big hammer maybe better |
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| 22:31.43 | C1REX | is there any irc client that supports aspell? |
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| 22:34.20 | Half-Left | compiling rocks |
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| 22:41.49 | sandsmark | C1REX: I think konversation does it =) |
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| 22:43.07 | C1REX | I don't see the option |
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| 22:43.21 | C1REX | I have konversation and kvirc |
| 22:43.51 | C1REX | emerge -pv kvirc konversation doesn't show aspell |
| 22:43.59 | sandsmark | bah, dunno about gentoo =) |
| 22:44.15 | C1REX | it's doesn't matter what distro |
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| 22:45.34 | sandsmark | C1REX: is it working in other applications? |
| 22:45.39 | sandsmark | (kmail, for example) |
| 22:46.59 | hays | c1|freaky_: xchat |
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| 22:52.14 | rei_0000 | hi *, anyone know what the kconfig option is for moving the desktop in KDE3? |
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| 23:01.14 | deado- | hello..im just done of kde3 fresh install on freebsd7-Stbl, whenever i plugin my usb device..it doesnot show on desktop..i reinstalled hal from ports but same..although device is mounted by fbsd system..help? |
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| 23:02.29 | thiago_home | deado-: can you verify that hal sent the signal indicating a new device was added? |
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| 23:04.13 | deado- | well, im not sure how to do that, but if i will add the device manuly in /etc/fstab the device will showup in desktop and when i click on it, it says need "hal" so..maybe hal not working? |
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| 23:05.41 | thiago_home | run dbus-monitor --system |
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| 23:05.51 | thiago_home | it should print a signal when you insert the USB stick |
| 23:06.11 | DanielW | or you can use lshal and look if it is added there |
| 23:06.48 | thiago_home | yep\ |
| 23:07.30 | deado- | Ishal is installed by default or i have to install it? |
| 23:08.05 | DanielW | deado-: i think it is shipped with hal? try to run it (it has no gui) |
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| 23:10.06 | deado- | can i paste the output here? its an error anyway |
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| 23:11.17 | sandsmark | rafb.net/paste |
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| 23:14.15 | deado- | the Ishal command is not found..but hal it self is installed..when i try to install the package it says already installed...how to run hal manualy? or any advise plz? |
| 23:17.31 | maelstrom | why is kde4 almost totally uncustomizable |
| 23:17.54 | deado- | thiago_home I tried dbus-monitor -- when i insert the flash it doesnot show any signal :( is this normal..its fresh install |
| 23:18.03 | dwinslow | maelstrom: kde4 is more or less a developer preview |
| 23:18.08 | dwinslow | wait for 4.1 |
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| 23:20.40 | deado- | no one? :( |
| 23:22.36 | deado- | one more Q, i have installed flashplugins when i was user:root, when i changed to normal user, flash plugins didnot work, i scanned for it..but it doesnot show nor works, when i go back to root it works..any workaround for it? please? |
| 23:23.13 | dwinslow | deado-: um, install the flash plugin as your own user? |
| 23:25.07 | Jucato | deado-: I think it's "lshal", as in small letter L, not Ishal (big i) |
| 23:25.26 | deado- | well....using system ports i have to be root! but will try it manual. |
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| 23:27.26 | deado- | Jucato I did, and its giving some error, i have paste it on http://rafb.net/p/Xvm7ir18.html |
| 23:28.54 | Jucato | btw, have you tried #freebsd-kde ? |
| 23:29.01 | Jucato | I think that's their channel. no idea about bsd. sorry |
| 23:29.21 | deado- | thank you guys.. |
| 23:29.59 | deado- | lol is it in this server! no one in that channel |
| 23:30.13 | adz21c | hi, is it possible to get kaddressbook to sync with google contacts? |
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| 23:30.22 | troy | deado-: the channel is #kde-freebsd |
| 23:30.49 | troy | deado-: it's pretty quiet these days - a few years ago it was pretty active |
| 23:31.08 | troy | but the people in there know what they are talking abotu most of the time :) |
| 23:31.38 | troy | throws a snowball at Jucato - Friday the 13th! Whee! |
| 23:31.56 | Shadow_Master | -.- |
| 23:32.04 | pinotree | troy: doesn't work for him, he's already on 14th |
| 23:33.17 | deado- | thanks troy :) |
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| 23:39.48 | sweetgum | can someone let me know if theres a "sudo apt-get install" for kde 4.0? the massive ammount of packages has me confusaled |
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| 23:40.42 | troy | pinotree: spooky :P |
| 23:41.02 | pinotree | sweetgum: #ubuntu-kde4 please |
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| 23:41.43 | sweetgum | pinotree: no fedora? |
| 23:41.51 | pinotree | #fedora? |
| 23:42.05 | pinotree | what is your distribution? |
| 23:42.11 | sweetgum | 9 |
| 23:42.22 | sweetgum | add/remove software = *broken* |
| 23:42.34 | pinotree | please ask in #fedora then |
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| 23:52.20 | Jucato | troy: shame on you! pinotree knows better :P |
| 23:52.26 | Jucato | Sat Jun 14 07:47:57 PHT 2008 |
| 23:52.32 | pinotree | see see |
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| 23:58.02 | MaxHeadroom | Hello, using kde 3.x, how can I change kde apps to make the default dragndrop behaviour to be move, instead of poping up a menu asking if I want to copy, link, set thumbnail, etc? |
| 23:58.26 | MaxHeadroom | mainly in konq, but also in digikam and others |
| 23:58.39 | MaxHeadroom | in relation to dragndrop of files |
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