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| 00:06.09 | chemdude | does anybody know of a page or something that explains how to make XMLGui .rc files? |
| 00:06.14 | chemdude | I've looked in api.kde.org |
| 00:06.19 | chemdude | and techbase.kde.org |
| 00:06.27 | chemdude | but haven't found anything that explains in detail |
| 00:06.38 | chemdude | about using XMLGui |
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| 00:23.45 | bfrog | is there a way to drag and drop icons to the panel somehow in kde4? |
| 00:23.54 | bfrog | or is that a feature yet to be finished as of yet? |
| 00:24.06 | bfrog | like, how would I just add some launchers |
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| 00:24.28 | bfrog | or like a button to start an application is what I want |
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| 00:26.07 | Jucato | drag and drop from the K MEnu is possible |
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| 00:58.35 | oneforall | hmm I wonder if its nspluginwrapper thats making konq slow to refresh sometimes . and it can be 1-2mins before it does |
| 00:58.50 | oneforall | make that even longer |
| 00:59.40 | oneforall | 20 0 382m 85m 22m R 100 8.6 402:10.79 konqueror |
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| 01:01.02 | oneforall | any idea how I can trace whats making it take up so much of both cpus making it not refresh |
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| 01:08.28 | cheater-conrad | how do you put symbolic links on the desktop on kde 4 |
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| 01:09.25 | oneforall | weird not that I went to close it instead of seeing the do I want to terminate it or keep it running. I get the normal popup and it refreshed in the bg |
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| 01:13.18 | gmartyn | cheater-conrad: ln -s :) |
| 01:13.20 | dejson | fglrx and kdetv |
| 01:13.24 | cheater-conrad | gmartyn, i did |
| 01:13.25 | dejson | is there any solution |
| 01:13.31 | cheater-conrad | ln -s directory ~/Desktop |
| 01:13.34 | cheater-conrad | ln -s directory ~/Desktop/File |
| 01:13.39 | dejson | i found the solution for xavtv |
| 01:13.43 | cheater-conrad | gmartyn, but it doesnt show up on the desktop |
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| 01:13.58 | dejson | fglrx and kdetv |
| 01:14.05 | dejson | is there any solution |
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| 01:14.29 | gmartyn | cheater-conrad: worked for me.. using fedora's 4.0.5 |
| 01:14.47 | gmartyn | i tried with files.. |
| 01:15.19 | gmartyn | and it just worked with a directory too |
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| 01:17.34 | dejson | so I just cant watch kde |
| 01:19.00 | j800r | hey, can anyone here offer a little help? |
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| 01:20.47 | j800r | anyone? |
| 01:20.59 | gmartyn | j800r: what's the q |
| 01:21.37 | j800r | i enabled desktop effects on my user account, then it logged me off and wouldnt let me log back in again. had to log in as root just to come on here |
| 01:21.58 | j800r | how do i turn off desktop effects for that account without logging into it |
| 01:24.14 | gmartyn | as root: |
| 01:24.22 | gmartyn | su - (your username here) |
| 01:24.26 | gmartyn | then run systemsettings |
| 01:24.34 | gmartyn | i think that may work |
| 01:24.51 | gmartyn | otherwise, turn off compositing in the xorg.conf file |
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| 01:26.09 | j800r | does systemsettings have a specific run command in terminal, cause i can't get it to run :s |
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| 01:29.14 | gmartyn | j800r: systemsettings |
| 01:29.23 | gmartyn | j800r: are you running kde 4? |
| 01:29.40 | j800r | yes |
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| 01:29.57 | j800r | <unknown program name>(3202)/: KUniqueApplication: Cannot find the D-Bus session server |
| 01:29.57 | j800r | <unknown program name>(3201)/: KUniqueApplication: Pipe closed unexpectedly. |
| 01:30.06 | j800r | that's the message i got |
| 01:30.15 | gmartyn | hm ok don't know what that is |
| 01:30.36 | gmartyn | easiest way now is to open /etc/X11/xorg.conf in an editor |
| 01:31.03 | gmartyn | then change the line: Option "Composite" "Enable" |
| 01:31.16 | gmartyn | to: #Option "Composite" "Enable" |
| 01:31.29 | gmartyn | or: Option "Composite" "Disable" |
| 01:31.31 | gmartyn | whatever |
| 01:31.54 | gmartyn | restart and you should be able to login as your regular user |
| 01:32.12 | g2g591 | you dont need to restart, just press ctrl+alt+backspace |
| 01:32.38 | TheSimkin | i do wish there was a gui editor for xorg.conf. |
| 01:33.11 | TheSimkin | it's a pain explaining over and over again how to configure xorg. |
| 01:33.12 | g2g591 | you could just open it in kate, or kwrite (kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf) |
| 01:33.53 | g2g591 | TheSimkin: well, in a perfect world... every distro would have such a tool |
| 01:34.31 | g2g591 | I mostly generated mine with the built-in Xorg -confiugre |
| 01:34.44 | g2g591 | without the typos though... |
| 01:35.32 | TheSimkin | yah, but if you want xinerama etc. it's such a pain. |
| 01:35.57 | g2g591 | ouch, yea.. |
| 01:36.33 | j800r | i cant findthere isnt a composite entry in the xorg.conf file :s |
| 01:36.40 | g2g591 | i used nvidia's tool to actually enable composite and aiglx, it was just some fancy -- options |
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| 01:37.14 | TheSimkin | i keep backups and copy them around lol. |
| 01:37.21 | TheSimkin | and then just change the resolutions. |
| 01:38.37 | j800r | help. the only option entries i have in xorg conf are for input device. nothing composite related :\ |
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| 01:38.57 | TheSimkin | j800r: what are you trying to do. |
| 01:38.58 | TheSimkin | j800r: what video card do oyu have. |
| 01:39.06 | TheSimkin | j800r: can you paste bin your xorg.conf |
| 01:39.21 | TheSimkin | j800r: and what distro are you using. |
| 01:39.27 | fde | TheSimkin: please take him to #xorg or something, that is unrelated to KDE |
| 01:40.50 | TheSimkin | good point. I don't want to distract from the kde conversation. |
| 01:40.54 | TheSimkin | ... |
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| 01:41.30 | j800r | the problem im having is on kde, so surely it is still kde related :s |
| 01:42.17 | TheSimkin | so what are you trying to do. |
| 01:42.23 | TheSimkin | well answer those questions above. |
| 01:42.30 | j800r | lol |
| 01:42.36 | j800r | distro is fedora 9 |
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| 01:42.55 | j800r | im trying to disable desktop effects on my user account |
| 01:43.10 | j800r | im logged in as root cause it wont let me login to mine since i enabled them |
| 01:43.22 | TheSimkin | ok |
| 01:43.45 | TheSimkin | pastebin your xorg.conf |
| 01:44.06 | TheSimkin | we'll try to disable desktop effects. If that doesn't work we'll move your kde config files. |
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| 01:44.28 | j800r | umm.. what's pastebin in newbie? :$ |
| 01:44.38 | DanielW | j800r: the config is stored in ~/.kde4/share/config/kwin |
| 01:44.40 | TheSimkin | gg for pastebin |
| 01:45.03 | TheSimkin | j800r: pastebin that file too. |
| 01:45.08 | DanielW | j800r: so if you delete that for your user you can log in again as the user |
| 01:45.32 | TheSimkin | wait, isn't fedora still kde 3.5.9 ? |
| 01:46.19 | TheSimkin | oh cool. it is kde 4. gotta try it now. |
| 01:46.37 | pretz | fedora 9 comes with kde 4 i believe |
| 01:46.41 | g2g591 | I'll stick with my kde svn |
| 01:49.07 | TheSimkin | show off :) |
| 01:50.43 | pretz | showoff ? who ? |
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| 02:24.57 | guillermo_spain | hi |
| 02:25.57 | guillermo_spain | do you know why when I have a external monitor connected to my laptop, fonts in the desktop are rendered smaller than without a monitor connected? |
| 02:27.37 | oneforall | is it ok to use that valgrind with konq? 3.5.9 |
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| 02:50.19 | cheater-conrad | how do you get all of the offline people to the bottom of the list |
| 02:50.22 | cheater-conrad | so they are out of the way |
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| 05:32.46 | sabocat | SO how exactly do I insltall a theme in KDE4? I have a .kth file in a directory of theme files, but when install and select it in appearance settings, i doesn't change anything |
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| 06:31.24 | WalterCool | in kde4, how can i add printers? |
| 06:32.14 | annma | doesn't your distro add them? |
| 06:32.40 | WalterCool | annma: My distro is gentoo :P |
| 06:32.50 | WalterCool | and im using kde4 from svn |
| 06:34.18 | annma | gentoo has not tools to do anything, |
| 06:34.25 | annma | gentoo has no tools to do anything? |
| 06:34.35 | annma | use cups then I guess |
| 06:34.54 | annma | kde will recognize your printer when it's set up |
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| 06:35.19 | purpleposeidon | gentoo is a distro? OOoohhhh |
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| 06:35.35 | annma | ;) |
| 06:35.49 | WalterCool | annma: Im using cups, and i can print pdf and ps files |
| 06:36.02 | annma | so what is your exact problem? |
| 06:36.15 | annma | in kde4 what is it you cannot do? |
| 06:36.19 | WalterCool | annma: But i need connect it into a lan printer |
| 06:36.26 | annma | it? |
| 06:36.39 | WalterCool | annma: remove the it |
| 06:36.51 | annma | you have no tool to get that lan printer then? |
| 06:37.26 | WalterCool | annma: at least, in kde3.5, i have a nice gui for that |
| 06:37.48 | annma | gentoo needs no gUI taht's the point |
| 06:38.09 | WalterCool | annma: thats not the point xD That is kde xD not gentoo chan |
| 06:38.11 | annma | this nice GUI is gone |
| 06:38.16 | annma | yup |
| 06:38.18 | WalterCool | annma: Why? |
| 06:38.26 | annma | nobody cares? |
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| 06:38.42 | annma | this is free software and if nobody cares it'"s not done |
| 06:38.49 | annma | there's no boss assigning tasks |
| 06:39.04 | annma | so it's there to do for anyone who wants it |
| 06:39.23 | WalterCool | annma: ow... ic, but that can be 1-0 for gnome vs kde :( |
| 06:39.35 | annma | mean |
| 06:39.43 | annma | all distros provide tools WalterCool |
| 06:39.50 | annma | I have no problem whatsoever |
| 06:40.05 | WalterCool | annma: how you add printers in your distro? |
| 06:40.15 | annma | my distro has a tool for it |
| 06:40.37 | annma | I have a "control center", like I set my wifi and display |
| 06:41.04 | WalterCool | annma: So... you are using kubuntu and kde3.5, right? |
| 06:41.07 | annma | I have GUI package managenment |
| 06:41.10 | annma | LOL not |
| 06:41.11 | Jucato | hell no! :) |
| 06:41.18 | WalterCool | Suse |
| 06:41.22 | annma | I use kde4 compiled WalterCool |
| 06:41.26 | Jucato | annma: though I thought you didn't use the stock "distro" packages |
| 06:41.27 | annma | for one thing |
| 06:41.32 | Jucato | so how come you have mcc? |
| 06:41.41 | annma | Jucato: no name please |
| 06:41.46 | Jucato | sorry :P |
| 06:42.05 | annma | WalterCool: when I want to print in kde4 I open the File -> Print and my printer is there |
| 06:42.21 | WalterCool | annma: But im getting all from svn |
| 06:42.26 | annma | me too |
| 06:42.35 | Jucato | annma: the problem with some distro tools are that they are distro-specific... remember the time when you couldn't get kde-guidance to build? |
| 06:42.36 | annma | I build KDE 4 from svn |
| 06:42.47 | annma | Jucato: taht's what I am sayiing |
| 06:42.51 | WalterCool | annma: And how you can get that options :S |
| 06:43.00 | annma | my distro provides me the tool to get my printer set up |
| 06:43.04 | WalterCool | annma: If kde-svn dont have it |
| 06:43.08 | WalterCool | annma: mmmm |
| 06:43.11 | annma | WalterCool: MY DISTRO |
| 06:43.17 | annma | not kde4 |
| 06:43.17 | WalterCool | annma: :O |
| 06:43.19 | Jucato | steps aside for a while.. can't think straight sorry |
| 06:43.45 | WalterCool | your distro can help to kde4 with this code :) |
| 06:44.22 | annma | not at all, it is not KDE code |
| 06:44.48 | annma | my distro provides this tool for ALL users: GNOME, KDE, WindowMaker, whatever |
| 06:45.03 | WalterCool | annma: :O Nice, in gtk or qt? |
| 06:45.40 | WalterCool | annma: Or other not mentioned? |
| 06:46.07 | annma | I have no idea |
| 06:46.09 | thiago_home | gtk |
| 06:46.11 | annma | I don't care |
| 06:46.14 | annma | OK |
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| 06:46.19 | annma | looks gtk yes |
| 06:46.29 | thiago_home | it looks really ugly if you don't use the default KDE theme |
| 06:46.32 | thiago_home | it looks very out of place |
| 06:46.55 | WalterCool | ouch |
| 06:47.08 | WalterCool | you can use the gtk-qt4 :P |
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| 06:47.19 | thiago_home | does that exist already? |
| 06:47.26 | WalterCool | yup |
| 06:47.39 | annma | I don't really care about looks for that sort of thing that you only open once in a while |
| 06:47.41 | WalterCool | you must download it from kde-look |
| 06:47.55 | annma | personally I won't bother tweaking it |
| 06:48.03 | thiago_home | same here |
| 06:48.06 | WalterCool | annma: but seems ugly like... your firefox... isnt? |
| 06:48.14 | thiago_home | yeah |
| 06:48.15 | annma | I use Konqueror WalterCool |
| 06:48.27 | thiago_home | but the same rationale applies: I won't bother for applications I use once a month |
| 06:48.43 | annma | especially when I reset my settings to test KDE stuff |
| 06:48.44 | WalterCool | annma: me too... but i know lot of kde+ff users... |
| 06:48.52 | WalterCool | annma: or... gimp? |
| 06:48.54 | annma | which is very often |
| 06:48.57 | annma | lol gimp |
| 06:49.06 | thiago_home | if they use that, then they can install gtk-qt4 |
| 06:49.07 | annma | no gimp for me, I am not artistic |
| 06:50.03 | WalterCool | thiago_home: is only a module... xD |
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| 06:50.34 | WalterCool | annma: Mmmmm... idk for other good gtk app xD |
| 06:51.36 | Jucato | thiago_home is not a module!!! he's a library |
| 06:51.48 | Jucato | oh I ddidn't see the : |
| 06:51.54 | WalterCool | Jucato: ouch... yeahh... sorry |
| 06:51.59 | thiago_home | lol |
| 06:52.19 | WalterCool | :¬| |
| 06:52.46 | WalterCool | annma: Another thing... google toolbar isnt working yet? |
| 06:52.53 | WalterCool | in konqueror |
| 06:53.02 | annma | google toolbar? |
| 06:53.06 | Jucato | you have to install konq-plugins |
| 06:53.08 | annma | what is that? |
| 06:53.13 | Jucato | annma: konq-plugins search plugin |
| 06:53.24 | annma | he means google search? |
| 06:53.25 | Jucato | WalterCool: leet people use gg:, ggi:, wp:, etc |
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| 06:53.50 | Jucato | annma: the search bar that you can place beside the location bar (Extension Toolbar) |
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| 06:54.05 | annma | Jucato: where are those konq plugins? kdeutils? |
| 06:54.10 | Jucato | extragear |
| 06:54.14 | Jucato | extragear/base |
| 06:54.20 | annma | oh OK |
| 06:54.21 | Jucato | (formerly kdeaddons... but meh) |
| 06:54.22 | WalterCool | Jucato: But i have a lot of protocols not supported :| |
| 06:54.33 | annma | I did not realize it was not there, true I use gg: |
| 06:54.40 | Jucato | WalterCool: check your Web Shortcuts if they are enabled |
| 06:54.46 | Jucato | annma: you're leet :P |
| 06:54.48 | annma | thats why I never use FF as I type gg: in it |
| 06:54.54 | annma | ;) |
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| 06:55.10 | thiago_home | it's g and space in FF |
| 06:55.18 | thiago_home | you can change to gg to match Konqueror |
| 06:55.32 | annma | oh it exists? |
| 06:55.32 | logixoul | Hi. I have an empty password, but kdesu doesn't recognize that so it still asks me to press enter. kinda annoying. any fix? |
| 06:55.38 | Jucato | never knoew that in Firefox.. |
| 06:55.39 | thiago_home | yes |
| 06:55.44 | WalterCool | Jucato: Well, web shortcuts seems a gray window... |
| 06:56.02 | thiago_home | you configure it in the bookmarks |
| 06:56.22 | Jucato | WalterCool: is "Enable Web Shortcuts" checked? |
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| 06:57.32 | WalterCool | Jucato: where is the option? |
| 06:57.47 | Jucato | Settings -> COnfigure Konqueror -> Web Shortcuts? |
| 06:58.25 | WalterCool | Jucato: like i told you, i see only a gray windw |
| 06:58.27 | WalterCool | window |
| 06:58.29 | logixoul | nm |
| 06:58.31 | Jucato | hm... thiago_home, do you happen to use kmail? |
| 06:58.32 | WalterCool | no elements |
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| 06:58.41 | Jucato | WalterCool: no idea why it isn't there |
| 06:59.28 | Jucato | hmnv |
| 06:59.31 | Jucato | nvm |
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| 07:00.57 | thiago_home | Jucato: yes. KMail 1.9 |
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| 07:02.10 | Jucato | thiago_home: 1.9.51? whenever I click on a link in KMail to open in Konqueror... my other Konqueror windows will no longer be able to browse or open new tabs |
| 07:02.26 | Jucato | "The reqeusted operation could not be completed"... |
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| 07:04.58 | thiago_home | 1.9.9 |
| 07:05.05 | Jucato | oh |
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| 07:22.25 | purpleposeidon | my kopete doesn't support /me. So I have to bluff. I wonder if everyone else is bluffing as well... |
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| 07:26.21 | thiago | we're not using kopete |
| 07:26.50 | Ramblurr | what are we using? |
| 07:26.52 | sandsmark | everyone else is using somethinge else |
| 07:27.05 | thiago | irssi |
| 07:27.09 | friedrich| | does this bug only happen to me? non-kde4 apps not showing up if switching to composite mid-session? |
| 07:27.27 | sandsmark | I'm using quassel =) |
| 07:27.28 | Ramblurr | friedrich|: it happens to me too |
| 07:27.44 | sandsmark | friedrich|: whaddayamean "not showing up"? |
| 07:27.58 | friedrich| | you can't see them |
| 07:28.00 | Ramblurr | when i toggle composite all my non kde4 apps dissapear |
| 07:28.04 | Ramblurr | the windows are hidden |
| 07:28.08 | friedrich| | they are in the panel still |
| 07:28.12 | Ramblurr | yea |
| 07:28.17 | Ramblurr | and they receive mouse events |
| 07:28.38 | Ramblurr | it's as if they are 100% transparent windeco and all |
| 07:28.41 | friedrich| | and they have focus (you can kill them with alt+ctrl+esc) |
| 07:29.11 | sandsmark | I'll be damned... happens here too |
| 07:29.16 | sandsmark | what distro do you use? |
| 07:29.21 | friedrich| | gentoo/amd64 |
| 07:29.36 | Ramblurr | and it only happens to me when i am toggling compositing ON after a session where i start kde4 with it OFF |
| 07:29.37 | sandsmark | what version of KDE? |
| 07:29.40 | sandsmark | 4.0.83? |
| 07:29.49 | friedrich| | trunk |
| 07:29.54 | Ramblurr | <-- gentoo and trunk |
| 07:30.01 | sandsmark | well, 4.0.83 is ~trunk |
| 07:30.06 | WalterCool | Ramblurr: That is a nice idea |
| 07:30.07 | sandsmark | it was tagged and released yesterday |
| 07:30.15 | Ramblurr | WalterCool: ? |
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| 07:30.26 | WalterCool | Ramblurr: KDE4.x + Gentoo :D |
| 07:30.28 | sandsmark | Ramblurr: anyways, I can confirm it on Kubuntu with nightly packages |
| 07:30.43 | Ramblurr | sandsmark: Using neon? |
| 07:30.49 | sandsmark | yeah |
| 07:30.53 | Ramblurr | WalterCool: no probs here ;) |
| 07:31.07 | sandsmark | I haven't noticed it on my Arch Linux laptop though, but I haven't really looked for it =) |
| 07:31.41 | Ramblurr | sandsmark: a user was asking me in #amarok how to tell the difference between kde4.1 beta and the nightlys, he wasn't sure it installed correctly |
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| 07:32.00 | jazka | Ramblurr: what if you right click on the app on the panel, and choose resize, that helps for me |
| 07:32.12 | jazka | it becomes visible again |
| 07:32.16 | sandsmark | Ramblurr: well, he should now where he gets it from =P |
| 07:32.29 | sandsmark | Ramblurr: in Arch, we made the last snapshots ourselves by checking out trunk ^_^ |
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| 07:32.52 | friedrich| | yeah, that helps |
| 07:33.20 | WalterCool | sandsmark: Is likely gentoo does... but without binaries xD |
| 07:33.26 | sandsmark | =) |
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| 07:33.57 | sandsmark | jazka: thanks =) |
| 07:34.27 | sandsmark | I use XRender compositing, btw |
| 07:35.09 | friedrich| | everyone who encountered that bug is on amd64? |
| 07:35.35 | Ramblurr | negative |
| 07:35.38 | WalterCool | sandsmark: is better for intel cards :) |
| 07:35.39 | sandsmark | nope |
| 07:35.39 | jazka | nope, I'm on 32bit |
| 07:35.46 | sandsmark | WalterCool: I know =) |
| 07:35.49 | friedrich| | alright.. |
| 07:35.55 | sandsmark | otherwise I just get gray, white and black squares |
| 07:36.37 | WalterCool | sandsmark: :S thats weird... is a intel card? |
| 07:36.42 | sandsmark | yeah |
| 07:37.03 | sandsmark | actually, no =3 |
| 07:37.06 | sandsmark | is at work |
| 07:37.18 | sandsmark | 01:00.1 Display controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV516 [Radeon X1300/X1550 Series] (Secondary) |
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| 07:39.35 | WalterCool | sandsmark: Well... exist a web with tutorials for videocards in kde4... |
| 07:39.48 | WalterCool | sandsmark: But idk what it xD |
| 07:40.00 | sandsmark | well, I'm at work, I shouldn't really be playing with KDE 4 =P |
| 07:40.26 | purpleposeidon | just change the job description |
| 07:40.33 | sandsmark | ^_^ |
| 07:40.50 | purpleposeidon | It'd be a great resume builder! |
| 07:41.34 | sandsmark | " * playing with KDE 4, * Making Debian packages, * Writing network diagnostic java applets" |
| 07:42.29 | WalterCool | sandsmark: And im "studying" right now :) |
| 07:42.40 | sandsmark | =) |
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| 07:43.43 | sandsmark | maybe I'll get a job at nokia/trolltech with that job description |
| 07:43.52 | sandsmark | =) |
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| 07:45.57 | WalterCool | sandsmark: LOL |
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| 08:02.16 | dejson | as i can see new ati drivers support |
| 08:02.18 | dejson | UYVY and YUY2 pixel format support for interleaved stream video |
| 08:02.36 | dejson | does that mean that kdetv and ttvtime and etc... will finally work |
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| 08:04.07 | Kebianizao|work | Hello |
| 08:04.22 | WalterCool | Yo! |
| 08:04.38 | Kebianizao|work | does anyone remember which was the application that was used to compare directories and see if files were different or not |
| 08:04.41 | Kebianizao|work | I saw that on kde3 |
| 08:05.00 | GNU\colossus | Kebianizao|work: use diff on the CLI |
| 08:05.21 | Kebianizao|work | GNU\colossus: thanks, I know, but I'm looking for the name of that app |
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| 08:08.30 | sandsmark | kdiff? |
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| 08:09.05 | MoDaX | Kebianizao|work: krusader is capable of doing this |
| 08:10.23 | Kebianizao|work | sandsmark: does that exists or it's the same as kdiff3 |
| 08:10.32 | Kebianizao|work | MoDaX: that's what I reckon from: http://www.linux.com/feature/61372 |
| 08:10.38 | Kebianizao|work | MoDaX:thanks both |
| 08:10.44 | Kebianizao|work | I'll advice krusader |
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| 08:16.22 | cuci | is there a pdb viewer for kde? |
| 08:16.35 | sandsmark | pdb? |
| 08:16.41 | sandsmark | as in palm database? |
| 08:16.45 | cuci | yup |
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| 08:16.59 | sandsmark | cuci: that's a generic format, like .bin |
| 08:17.08 | sandsmark | cuci: there could be pretty much anything in it |
| 08:17.15 | sandsmark | try khexedit |
| 08:17.16 | cuci | it's a book |
| 08:17.31 | sandsmark | no, but it can contain books =) |
| 08:17.44 | sandsmark | cuci: but thave you looked on kde-apps.org? |
| 08:17.55 | cuci | not yet |
| 08:18.30 | cuci | I used to be able to see these books but I forgot with what |
| 08:19.01 | Kebianizao|work | c u, bye |
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| 08:19.07 | cuci | I'm pretty sure it's a pdf wannabe but okular says it can't read it |
| 08:19.29 | cuci | sandsmark: so if it's a book khexedit it's no good right? |
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| 08:19.39 | sandsmark | cuci: no |
| 08:19.40 | pinotree | pdb and pdf are completely different stuff... |
| 08:20.20 | sandsmark | cuci: but there are some dedicated book readers on kde-apps.org, they might be able to read cspotrun-books (or whatever they're called) |
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| 08:20.53 | cuci | thanks |
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| 09:42.08 | dml | Hi guys, How to optimize the Desktop rendering |
| 09:42.14 | dml | with a nvidia ? |
| 09:42.21 | pinotree | ? |
| 09:42.29 | dml | should I use Xrender or OpenGL ? |
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| 09:43.27 | Kraplax | hey! |
| 09:43.37 | Kraplax | i'd like to make a little poll |
| 09:44.16 | Kraplax | does anyone remember oxygen style -/+/x buttons that were in version 4.0 approximately? |
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| 09:46.52 | Kraplax | so many people and noone want to help me? |
| 09:47.16 | Kraplax | this was the most talkative channel in all times! |
| 09:47.48 | Kraplax | please, i need your opinion! |
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| 09:48.36 | pusling | screeenshots please ? |
| 09:49.28 | Kraplax | well... |
| 09:49.33 | Kraplax | ok, wait a sec |
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| 09:54.45 | thiago | dml: use the VESA driver for X11. You lose the effects, but it's much faster. |
| 09:54.53 | Pawel | hi all |
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| 10:05.14 | Kraplax | ok |
| 10:05.22 | Kraplax | i need your opinion |
| 10:05.31 | Kraplax | here are two pics |
| 10:05.31 | Kraplax | http://picasaweb.google.ru/Kraplang/WorkingOnMsstyle |
| 10:06.22 | Kraplax | here you can see the close/minimize/maximize buttons approximately at the time of 4.0 and 4.1 |
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| 10:06.37 | Kraplax | and i want you to tell me which you like best |
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| 10:11.04 | Kraplax | please! |
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| 10:14.31 | phisphere | 4.0 ones are better |
| 10:14.49 | phisphere | on the second picture button icons look ugly |
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| 10:15.29 | phisphere | and i personally don't like when close button is on the one side and minimize and maximize on the other side of window decoration bar |
| 10:16.19 | phisphere | Kraplax: my two cents |
| 10:17.21 | Kraplax | ok, thanks at least for that =) |
| 10:18.08 | Kraplax | i actually meant not the position, but the look. i like 4.0 more, too |
| 10:18.23 | Kraplax | phisphere: so, thank you for your opinion. |
| 10:18.30 | Kraplax | Anyone else? |
| 10:19.08 | phisphere | those 4.1 ones looked like fedora's new nodoka window decoration buttons |
| 10:19.15 | phisphere | with the outstroke and everything |
| 10:19.25 | phisphere | shortly - it's ugly |
| 10:19.33 | Kraplax | i've never seen those :P |
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| 10:34.58 | ServerCrash | while building plasmoid i am getting following error on Fedora 9 machine ERROR: cmake/modules/FindKDE4Internal.cmake |
| 10:35.22 | ServerCrash | does anyone knows what i would need or whats the fix for this |
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| 10:35.53 | pinotree | how did you get kde4? |
| 10:36.58 | ServerCrash | well its was installed during upgradation from fedora 8 to fedora 9 |
| 10:37.28 | pinotree | then you need its development packages |
| 10:38.16 | ServerCrash | ok, could you tell me package names? |
| 10:38.20 | ServerCrash | i would install it up |
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| 10:41.41 | pinotree | ServerCrash: #fedora for tha |
| 10:41.41 | pinotree | t |
| 10:41.42 | ServerCrash | pinotree, some clues? |
| 10:42.00 | ServerCrash | pinotree, no one right now there knows about it |
| 10:42.14 | pinotree | and we cannot help about distro stuff, sorry |
| 10:42.21 | ServerCrash | anyway, i would google it ou t |
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| 10:44.34 | ServerCrash | pinotree, can you tell me how to make the panel go transparent in plasma |
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| 10:50.06 | _DOKTOR | hi |
| 10:50.18 | jp | hello |
| 10:50.22 | jp | where are you a doctor? |
| 10:50.30 | _DOKTOR | from germany |
| 10:50.37 | _DOKTOR | thüringen |
| 10:50.54 | _DOKTOR | molecular chemistry |
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| 10:52.28 | ServerCrash | does anyone knows how to make the panel go transparent in plasma |
| 10:53.03 | _DOKTOR | sorry, no |
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| 11:03.54 | nowshining | can't access wiki.kde.org |
| 11:04.01 | nowshining | account suspended |
| 11:04.35 | nowshining | i get redirected here http://adama.asmallorange.com/suspended.page/ |
| 11:04.54 | thiago | hmm |
| 11:04.54 | boom1992 | nowshining: same |
| 11:05.00 | thiago | mail sysadmin@kde.org |
| 11:05.05 | nowshining | as boom1992 so it's not just me |
| 11:05.10 | nowshining | :) |
| 11:05.33 | boom1992 | yop :) |
| 11:05.54 | nowshining | so u guys already sent an email? |
| 11:06.47 | thiago | not me |
| 11:06.58 | Kraplax | ServerCrash: make a Plasma theme with transparent svg for Panel. No other way |
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| 11:08.38 | ServerCrash | Kraplax, i am using glassified theme |
| 11:08.48 | ServerCrash | Kraplax, http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/Glassified?content=81388 |
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| 11:09.06 | ServerCrash | Kraplax, but the panel is showing up in black to grey gradient |
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| 11:09.48 | thiago | ServerCrash: select the Glassified theme |
| 11:09.52 | Kraplax | ServerCrash: Have you enabled compositing? |
| 11:10.08 | nowshining | i'm going to sent an email if no-one else didn't |
| 11:10.46 | thiago | nowshining: do it |
| 11:11.19 | nowshining | well it's sent |
| 11:11.21 | nowshining | lol |
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| 11:14.09 | nowshining | oh in gutsygibbon i removed kde-guiadance along with the dep. python-kde3 and logout and ctrl+alt+backspace and re-logged in and my desktop got brighter. and yes i know what kde-guidance was for :) of which i don't need. |
| 11:15.10 | ServerCrash | thiago, from where to select the glassified theme for panel |
| 11:15.10 | ServerCrash | Kraplax, enabled composting? i dont know could you tell me where to look for it |
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| 11:15.52 | ServerCrash | thiago, well widgets etc are using glassified theme |
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| 11:16.37 | Kraplax | ServerCrash: i dunno actually, ask thiago, maybe. But i know that any theme contains variants for compositing enabled and disabled. Disabled compositing doesn't allow transparency |
| 11:17.38 | ServerCrash | thiago, could you point me where to check for "enabled compositing" |
| 11:18.01 | ServerCrash | Kraplax, since widget are showing transparency, so probably enabled compositing is working |
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| 11:18.53 | thiago | right-click the desktop, Configure Desktop, select Glassified from the theme list at the bottom |
| 11:19.07 | thiago | enable Compositing with Alt+F3, Configure Window Behaviour |
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| 11:20.06 | jedi1 | hi |
| 11:20.20 | ServerCrash | thiago, KDE 4.0 there is nothing like theme there |
| 11:20.30 | jedi1 | anyone know how can I move panel in kde 4? |
| 11:20.39 | jedi1 | I tried to drag it but it won't work |
| 11:20.47 | Camu\ | unlock the panel? |
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| 11:21.01 | thiago | KDE 4.1 |
| 11:21.06 | ServerCrash | thiago, in vonfigure window behaviour i checked the desktop effects, there is nothing like "compositing" |
| 11:21.17 | ServerCrash | thiago, nopes, its kde 4.0 |
| 11:21.24 | jedi1 | Camu\, how would I do that? |
| 11:21.30 | Camu\ | jedi1, right click the panel and unlock |
| 11:21.30 | jedi1 | I don't see any option |
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| 11:22.01 | jedi1 | only add widgets, panel settings, remove |
| 11:22.07 | Camu\ | oh |
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| 11:22.28 | Camu\ | kde4 is much different than kde3.5x |
| 11:22.32 | Camu\ | hmm, then |
| 11:22.47 | Camu\ | try to go panel setting or something similar to that |
| 11:22.57 | Kraplax | ServerCrash: theming and such candies are available after 4.0.x afaik |
| 11:23.19 | ServerCrash | Kraplax, is 4.1 final release out? |
| 11:23.29 | Kraplax | ServerCrash: nope, yet |
| 11:23.49 | jedi1 | it moved at last, huh I had to choose panel settings and then it would move if I drag the settings panel |
| 11:24.34 | ServerCrash | KDE is really making big changes and fast changes...hard to cope up at times |
| 11:24.35 | Kraplax | ServerCrash: you see, you can't wait that 4.0 would deal with thees the same way as 4.1 will. They're too different. Wait a bit and grab it from your distro repositories |
| 11:24.55 | Kraplax | ServerCrash: *can't expect |
| 11:25.27 | Kraplax | ServerCrash: just install Fedora 9, openSuSE 11 or at least Kubuntu 8.04 remix |
| 11:25.40 | jedi1 | I am now using kde 4.1 from debian experimental but it still has loads of bugs |
| 11:26.06 | ServerCrash | Kraplax, i have fedora 9, and its there where i am trying to push in the glassified theme |
| 11:26.17 | jedi1 | and I hope that final release will not eat as much ram as this beta |
| 11:26.22 | jedi1 | though I don't think so |
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| 11:26.42 | Kraplax | oh, then you have not KDE4.0, but rather something like 4.0.4 |
| 11:26.44 | Half-Left | Afternoon! |
| 11:26.53 | Kraplax | so, you should be able to find it |
| 11:26.58 | Kraplax | Half-Left: moin ) |
| 11:27.04 | ServerCrash | ok..so i am stuck between 4.0 and 4.0.4 |
| 11:27.18 | Half-Left | or morning, evening :) |
| 11:27.19 | ServerCrash | well i dont see the "compositing" option anywere near |
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| 11:27.40 | Kraplax | ServerCrash: you're not stuck. just search for something like 'enable compositing' or 'enable effects', maybe? |
| 11:27.53 | ServerCrash | Kraplax, i have enabled the effects |
| 11:28.08 | ServerCrash | like looking glass, sharpen, tranclucency etc |
| 11:28.15 | Kraplax | ServerCrash: i don't know if effects are supposed to enable transparency |
| 11:28.28 | ServerCrash | but cant see "compositing option" |
| 11:28.35 | Half-Left | It's in Desktop in the System Settings |
| 11:28.36 | ServerCrash | well transprarency is enabled in case of widgets |
| 11:29.36 | jedi1 | hmm anyone eventually found out how to add quick application launcher in panel in kde 4.1? |
| 11:30.08 | Half-Left | jedi1, Just drag the icon from the menu |
| 11:30.49 | jedi1 | HaIf-Left thanks |
| 11:31.10 | jedi1 | *Half-Left |
| 11:31.17 | Half-Left | :) |
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| 11:31.59 | Half-Left | wonders why Add to panel was removed from the menu option |
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| 11:33.17 | Half-Left | jedi1, Just make sure you drag it to where it needs to go because you can't move it around the panel after |
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| 11:34.30 | jedi1 | ok |
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| 11:38.36 | ServerCrash | CMake Error: Could not find REQUIRED package Plasma |
| 11:39.00 | ServerCrash | i am trying to build a plasmoid on Fedora 9, |
| 11:39.13 | ServerCrash | but the build fails with the above mentioned error. |
| 11:39.21 | ServerCrash | does anyone knows what package i need, |
| 11:39.22 | Half-Left | What are you building? |
| 11:39.35 | Half-Left | What order? |
| 11:39.53 | ServerCrash | Half-Left, i m trying to build plasma-applet-quicklauncher-0.3 |
| 11:40.03 | ServerCrash | using the installer script that came in |
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| 11:40.16 | Half-Left | you need kdebase-dev, or plasma-dev |
| 11:40.28 | ServerCrash | Half-Left, i got kdebase-dev |
| 11:40.29 | Half-Left | Whatever your distro does |
| 11:40.42 | ServerCrash | but could not find plasma-dev anywhere, i am using fedora 9 |
| 11:41.29 | Half-Left | will be that then |
| 11:42.13 | ServerCrash | well i still get compilation error :( |
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| 11:42.29 | ServerCrash | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:42.29 | ServerCrash | CMake Error: Could not find REQUIRED package Plasma |
| 11:42.29 | ServerCrash | -- Configuring done |
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| 11:45.07 | ServerCrash | plasma also doesnt have show desktop :( |
| 11:45.24 | Half-Left | search for plasma and see what comes up |
| 11:45.31 | Half-Left | Ask in fedora |
| 11:45.34 | ServerCrash | nither have a quick laucher panel, this are generally must |
| 11:45.51 | ServerCrash | Half-Left, most of them dont even know whats plasmoids |
| 11:45.54 | Half-Left | kdelibsdev and as well |
| 11:48.31 | ServerCrash | Half-Left, kdebase-workspace-devel did the trick :) |
| 11:48.58 | Half-Left | ServerCrash, Ahhh, yer I forgot they break up the packages in kdebase like that |
| 11:49.29 | dml | Hi, should I use Xrender or OpenGl for the Desktop effetcs if i'm using the nvidia drivers (169) ? |
| 11:49.56 | ServerCrash | dml: i have same question for ATI X2300 card :p |
| 11:50.12 | dml | so wait and see ;) |
| 11:51.19 | ServerCrash | dml, unfortunately i dont have drivers for my card till now in the maket...so not sure how far its been working good with "radeon" generic driver |
| 11:51.26 | Half-Left | OpenGL if you have it |
| 11:52.08 | ServerCrash | Half-Left, a silly question, i have build the plasmoid, it got intsalled too, now i do i place that plasmoid on my panel, it doesnt show up in "Add widgets seciton" |
| 11:52.19 | dml | Oki thx |
| 11:52.38 | Half-Left | ServerCrash, It should be in there yer, I would think so |
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| 11:52.44 | ServerCrash | using OpenGL :) |
| 11:53.04 | Half-Left | make sure it's installed to the same prefix as KDE4 thoug of course :) |
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| 11:55.21 | ServerCrash | not showing up |
| 11:55.29 | ServerCrash | probably i need a xserver restart |
| 11:56.08 | Half-Left | Just restart plasma |
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| 11:58.06 | ServerCrash | hmm could locate the plasmoid in kde after installation |
| 11:58.08 | ServerCrash | :( |
| 11:58.14 | ServerCrash | probably missing some path or something like that |
| 11:59.02 | Half-Left | just restart plasma |
| 11:59.26 | Half-Left | just type, whereis kde4 and see the path |
| 12:02.22 | Half-Left | Yay, konqueror address bar moving has been fixed |
| 12:02.41 | ServerCrash | i got the widget, but now when i added it to the panel it says "This object could not be created" :( |
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| 12:03.35 | Half-Left | Maybe it's not compatitble with 4.1 |
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| 12:04.27 | ServerCrash | i am using 4.0.4 |
| 12:04.32 | Half-Left | oh |
| 12:04.42 | Half-Left | Not sure then |
| 12:04.55 | ServerCrash | i could not find find a method to remove the widget also as nothing shows up on righ click :( |
| 12:05.18 | Half-Left | ask in #plasma |
| 12:05.23 | ServerCrash | ok |
| 12:05.50 | annma | is your desktop locked? |
| 12:05.52 | annma | ServerCrash: I am a plasma dev |
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| 12:30.11 | RockMan | hi all |
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| 12:39.36 | dml | What's the best way to offer my wallpapers for kde4.1 ? |
| 12:40.10 | annma | to put it on kde-look.org |
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| 12:40.20 | dml | oki thx |
| 12:40.23 | annma | it'll be picked by the GHNS installer |
| 12:40.34 | annma | directly from the Desktop config dialog |
| 12:40.43 | dml | Greats! |
| 12:40.46 | annma | :) |
| 12:40.48 | dml | what about the resolutions ? |
| 12:41.02 | dml | should I put differents sizes ? |
| 12:41.04 | annma | I htink usually people put several res |
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| 12:41.16 | dml | i'll do that ;) |
| 12:41.22 | annma | the GHNS installer will get directly the correct one for the user |
| 12:41.28 | annma | have a look at others |
| 12:41.31 | annma | let me see |
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| 12:42.53 | padde | ahja, das mit umts kann sein. gibts hier ja noch gar nix, glaub ich |
| 12:42.58 | psteyn | oh hai |
| 12:43.08 | padde | oh, wrong channel, sorry |
| 12:43.47 | annma | dml: I use http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/Moon+Horizon?content=81878 |
| 12:43.56 | annma | but I cannot see if it is offered in several sizes |
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| 12:44.09 | annma | dml: I guess when you upload it, you'll be asked |
| 12:44.32 | dml | ok i'll do it right now, thanx ;) |
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| 12:45.29 | pusling | can't locate the swirly black/gray background image that is shown during login. Anyone got pointers ? |
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| 12:48.46 | annma | pusling: ask ruphy when you see him |
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| 12:48.51 | annma | he did it I htink |
| 12:50.51 | pusling | annma: I think it is pinhiero who did it though ;) |
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| 13:15.17 | Kraplax | so, anyone else who doesn't like current view of close/min/max buttons? |
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| 13:23.53 | solenzo | hello everyone i have gentoo distro and I'm installing kde4 from portage overlay. when emerge is installing clucene-9-20 it is errored with message /usr/include/tchar.h:27:2: error: #error You must use msvcrt when building in Unicode/MBCS mode |
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| 13:28.48 | pinotree | solenzo: #gentoo please |
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| 13:31.12 | hanno | hi, I'd like to get started with translating dragonplayer into german, though there is no pofile yet |
| 13:31.29 | hanno | can anyone point me a) to the .pot file b) tell me how i generate an empty de.po out of the pot-file |
| 13:33.03 | Kraplax | hanno: to generato 'empty' .po file just rename .pot into .po |
| 13:33.18 | pinotree | hanno: kde is usually translated by teams, so you should better contact the team to know whether anyone is already working on that |
| 13:33.20 | Kraplax | hanno: search the dragonplayer site (if there's one) |
| 13:33.30 | pinotree | and in case, get the translation assign to you |
| 13:33.34 | hanno | Kraplax, there is one, but not with much info |
| 13:33.34 | pinotree | see http://l10n.kde.org/team-infos.php?teamcode=de |
| 13:33.49 | hanno | where are the potfiles located in svn? |
| 13:34.14 | hanno | http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/l10n-kde4/de/messages/kdemultimedia/ this is the place where the po should be |
| 13:34.20 | hanno | where can I find the appropriate pot? |
| 13:34.49 | pinotree | hanno: here: http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/l10n-kde4/templates/messages/kdemultimedia/ (diid you listen to what i said?) |
| 13:35.12 | hanno | pinotree, yes, I'm about to write a mail to the team manager right now ;_) |
| 13:35.57 | Kraplax | if there's no pot - then there's already some work done, so use po to continue translation |
| 13:37.49 | RockMan | anyone wanna test mplayerthumbs on kde4? |
| 13:38.03 | RockMan | (video thumbnails generator on konqueror/dolphin) |
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| 13:42.06 | Kraplax | hanno: http://websvn.kde.org/*checkout*/trunk/l10n-kde4/templates/messages/kdemultimedia/dragonplayer.pot <---- is that what you're looking for? anyay, contact team leader and offer yourself |
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| 14:03.44 | neuzo | can i configure kdevelop |
| 14:03.48 | mohbana_ | hi, i use gnome mainly and i noticed that some apps such as write as slightly laggy compared to gedit, is there a bug filed against such an issue, i'm using kde4 |
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| 14:04.03 | neuzo | to force him to close automatically { } when i open a { ? |
| 14:04.21 | neuzo | i would make him make a } when i write a { |
| 14:04.30 | mohbana_ | for instance highlighting is quiet laggy compared gedit |
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| 14:12.05 | mohbana_ | could it be using the vesa driver instead of the nvidia one? |
| 14:13.34 | tinin | Hi, couls someone tell me how should I compile a kde4 program (kgrubeditor 0.7) from source on hardy? |
| 14:14.07 | tinin | it has different kde paths for kde3 and kde4 |
| 14:14.46 | tinin | mkdir build - cd build - cmake .. - make - sudo make install is not enough |
| 14:18.55 | Jucato | tinin: please try asking in #kubuntu-kde4 |
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| 14:20.19 | Kraplax | anyone else, who likes/dislikes current Oxygen close/restore/max/min button? |
| 14:20.33 | Kraplax | please i need your opinion |
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| 14:22.01 | kdepepo | Kraplax, current = 4.0.5 or SVN ? |
| 14:22.07 | tinin | yeah, done, but maybe someone here used kubuntu, I think you just need to specify kde4 paths to compile, but I dont know how |
| 14:22.22 | Kraplax | is there much difference? |
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| 14:22.43 | kdepepo | Kraplax, sure :) |
| 14:22.53 | Kraplax | i saw only currnet screenshots from blogs and used 4.0 release |
| 14:23.39 | kdepepo | Kraplax, wait a second... |
| 14:23.57 | Jucato | basically the difference is that in 4.0 the buttons are raised, in 4.1 they are mostly flat. also in 4.1 inactive windows' buttons are more of an outline rather than solid |
| 14:23.58 | Kraplax | well, to see what i mean, http://picasaweb.google.ru/Kraplang/WorkingOnMsstyle |
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| 14:24.39 | Kraplax | well, the question is - do you like those flat buttons? |
| 14:24.49 | Kraplax | or you'd prefer raised? |
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| 14:25.15 | Kraplax | i'm not going to complain or something - just deciding which variant to choose.. |
| 14:26.08 | Kraplax | so, if people like raised mostly - i'll take it. if not - take another variant. |
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| 14:27.05 | Jucato | "take it"? |
| 14:27.29 | Kraplax | i'm making msstyle for windows users |
| 14:27.44 | Jucato | ah |
| 14:27.59 | kdepepo | Kraplax, windows users will prefer any style that has the word "Vista" in name, regardless how it looks. |
| 14:28.08 | Kraplax | so KDE on Windows project could offer as much integration as possible |
| 14:29.03 | kdepepo | Kraplax, you should stick to defaults, and have an intro screen that says that you can configure look with system settings. |
| 14:29.04 | Jucato | here's my advice: if you're trying to "advertise" the KDE brand, stick to what's the default as much as possible. if you prefer to distribute something not default, rename it and point out the difference |
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| 14:29.50 | Jucato | I mean, you are saying that it is a "KDE" 4/Oxygen theme, so best to stick to what Oxygen really is. |
| 14:30.12 | Kraplax | kdepepo: i don't want to begin holy wars, but on some WinCustomize or such sites you'll find more different themes, than on *-look, imho. Of corse, both sides appreciate aqua and vista, but windows users have more non-standard themes |
| 14:30.52 | Kraplax | Jucato: ok, good advice. thanks |
| 14:31.35 | kdepepo | Kraplax, no surprise, given how much more Windows users are out there compared to KDE users. |
| 14:31.56 | Kraplax | kdepepo: yeah. and windows is a bit' |
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| 14:32.06 | Kraplax | 'a bit' more popular.. (( |
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| 14:32.28 | Jucato | s/how much more Windows users are out there/how much more Windows users are desperate to change their themes/ :D |
| 14:32.31 | Jucato | aaanyway |
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| 14:33.02 | Kraplax | kdepepo: and instead of creating new and original themes users prefer cloning those vista and aqua themes (( i'd appreciate someone porting sentinel or Thallos themes.. |
| 14:33.27 | kdepepo | Jucato, well, KDE 4 is probably the first KDE where people dont want to change their theme immediately :) |
| 14:33.30 | Jucato | warns that it's bordering closely on offtopic now... |
| 14:33.49 | benJIman | still wants to change his theme immediately. |
| 14:33.51 | Jucato | kdepepo: at least not the general theme (not sure about plasma...) |
| 14:33.59 | kdepepo | Kraplax, how do you like Skulpture |
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| 14:34.35 | Kraplax | haven't seen it. got a link? maybe we shall continue on kde-chat? |
| 14:34.57 | kdepepo | http://skulpture.maxiom.de/ |
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| 14:35.20 | kdepepo | or "gg:skulpture kde" :) |
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| 14:37.03 | Kraplax | nope, not for me. too flat, imho. nothing original. if i wanted something similar a would switch to windows classic (or Redmond2000 in case of using Linux) |
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| 14:39.37 | kdepepo | are you preparing a KDE on Windows distribution? |
| 14:39.57 | Ambivert | KDE on windows! |
| 14:40.17 | mohbana_ | hi, i use gnome mainly and i noticed that some apps such as write as slightly laggy compared to gedit, is there a bug filed against such an issue, i'm using kde4 |
| 14:40.20 | mohbana_ | for instance highlighting is quiet laggy compared gedit |
| 14:40.21 | mohbana_ | could it be using the vesa driver instead of the nvidia one? |
| 14:41.50 | kdepepo | mohbana_, do you use compositing in kde4? I mean desktop effects? |
| 14:42.16 | Kraplax | kdepepo: me? no way. kde on windows is distributed through tar.bz2 packages and special installer. i havent ever even compiled it. |
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| 14:43.09 | kdepepo | mohbana_, kde4 makes heavy use of XRender, so either Vesa or the NVidia binary only driver could be slower than KDE3/GNOME experience. |
| 14:43.17 | Kraplax | kdepepo: i'm just trying to get msstyle done for 4.1 release, since there's already Oxygen cursor theme ported to windows. So, i'd like to feel full kde experience ) |
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| 14:45.06 | kdepepo | Kraplax, in what way is it different than QWindows[XP/Vista]Style from Qt 4.4? |
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| 14:45.44 | litb | hello all |
| 14:45.52 | mohbana_ | kdepepo: yes i do use compiz, i have no idea what xrender is |
| 14:46.04 | litb | what do i have to do to decrement the margin and padding of oxygen elements? |
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| 14:46.17 | litb | especially from its menus? |
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| 14:46.19 | szymon_g | hi |
| 14:46.30 | litb | i don't like the menu items being so much seperated from each other |
| 14:46.33 | Kraplax | kdepepo: you mean msstyle? |
| 14:46.40 | litb | the klipper menu itself takes half of my vertical screen space |
| 14:46.43 | HalphaZ | hello |
| 14:46.55 | kdepepo | mohbana_, XRender is a newer X11 technology. |
| 14:46.57 | HalphaZ | I'm using kde4 compiled from trunk |
| 14:47.08 | litb | with kde3, it only takes a third of it |
| 14:47.10 | kdepepo | Kraplax, yep |
| 14:47.59 | litb | well not too new i think. at least 5 years old |
| 14:48.21 | Kraplax | kdepepo: well, with msstyle you'll have all your windows applications use Oxygen widgets. And windows decorations are here too - you can't achieve that with turning WidgetStyle=Oxgen in your kdeglobals |
| 14:48.40 | kdepepo | litb, but not used much, except in KDE4. |
| 14:48.59 | litb | hmm |
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| 14:49.11 | kdepepo | Kraplax, aha, so it is the reverse bridge, very nice :) |
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| 14:49.28 | litb | the future is openGL anyway :p |
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| 14:49.43 | litb | why have both a 2d and 3d api, if 2d is a subset of 3d |
| 14:49.49 | litb | ugly! |
| 14:50.07 | kdepepo | litb, nope, the future is DirectX 10, closed source drivers :( |
| 14:50.13 | litb | nono |
| 14:50.27 | Kraplax | kdepepo: yeah. with 'ideal' msstyle you wouldn't need to turn Oxyge widgetstyle on at all. msstyle would provide it more natively. |
| 14:50.28 | thiago | kdepepo: QWindows[XP/Vista]Style use the native styling API to draw |
| 14:50.33 | kdepepo | nvidia already starts crippling its 2D performance. |
| 14:50.42 | thiago | kdepepo: so if Oxygen becomes a Windows style, those styles in Qt will draw Oxygen |
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| 14:50.56 | litb | see that's because openGL will replace XRender anyway. Xgl for the win! |
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| 14:53.05 | kdepepo | thiago, I am fairly familar with Qt styles, thanks ;) I was just wondering what Kraplax' work would offer in contrast to Qt. |
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| 14:54.57 | eckhart | hi |
| 14:55.06 | eckhart | what happened to wiki.kde.org ? |
| 14:55.13 | HalphaZ | is there konversation in trunk? |
| 14:55.31 | kdepepo | eckhart, maybe moved to techbase.kde.org |
| 14:55.45 | mohbana_ | kdepepo: is directx better than opengl? |
| 14:56.01 | mohbana_ | how does konqueror render fonts? they look horrible |
| 14:56.07 | HalphaZ | and another question: kpackage displays less packets than synaptic, how can I solve this? |
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| 14:57.35 | kdepepo | kpackage??? Doesn't your distribution provide a package manager? |
| 14:58.08 | HalphaZ | synaptic |
| 14:58.14 | HalphaZ | but it look orrible... |
| 14:58.18 | HalphaZ | *looks |
| 14:58.19 | kdepepo | mohbana_, you can change font appearance with System Settings... |
| 14:58.33 | HalphaZ | I supposed that kpackage should work as synaptic |
| 14:58.42 | HalphaZ | was I wrong? |
| 14:59.12 | kdepepo | HalphaZ, nope. KPackage is not aware of the distribution. You would have to add your repositories somehow there. |
| 14:59.44 | HalphaZ | °_° really? I didn't know... |
| 14:59.54 | mohbana_ | kdepepo: i use gnome, what does konqueror use for font rendering? |
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| 15:00.05 | pusling | kpackage is to some degree aware of the distribution. |
| 15:00.16 | pusling | I have at least installed packages and upgraded packages on my debian with kpackage |
| 15:00.31 | kdepepo | mohbana_, Qt, which uses FreeType (as GNOME), but you can change Hinting/Aliasing with System Settings. |
| 15:02.13 | litb | hmm |
| 15:03.08 | HalphaZ | does kpackage use apt? |
| 15:03.29 | HalphaZ | or it uses something other? |
| 15:03.39 | pusling | HalphaZ: kpackage interacts with apt and others |
| 15:03.40 | kdepepo | HalphaZ, I guess so... it can also use rpm command. |
| 15:03.58 | HalphaZ | ok, I undestood |
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| 15:05.40 | HalphaZ | but when I select "installed" it shows too few packets |
| 15:05.45 | HalphaZ | but when I select "installed" it shows too few packages |
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| 15:06.03 | pusling | HalphaZ: but kpackage is undermaintained. I guess you are most welcome to adopt it ;) |
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| 15:09.47 | mohbana_ | kdepepo: i've set AA in gnome, konqueror is doing something else |
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| 15:10.57 | kdepepo | mohbana_, try setting "Hinting" to medium. |
| 15:11.00 | dMaggot | my KPanel is gone (the bar that goes at the bottom), where can I check the errors? I already tried .xsession_errors and there's no info there |
| 15:11.33 | kdepepo | dMaggot, KDE4? |
| 15:11.41 | dMaggot | KDE 3.5 |
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| 15:11.48 | pinotree | alt+f2, kicker |
| 15:12.39 | dMaggot | got it, thanks, it's missing a library |
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| 15:15.55 | pusling | isn't kate (Kde4) having the possibility to sort the document ? |
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| 15:40.37 | J-23 | ahh, why we can't copy computer data from future, e.g. download KDE 5.4 :D |
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| 15:40.51 | H__ | heh :) |
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| 16:08.11 | daskreech | Jucato: http://cartan.cas.suffolk.edu/oopdocbook/opensource/ |
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| 16:08.37 | Jucato | daskreech: yep saw it |
| 16:08.41 | Jucato | thanks |
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| 16:08.53 | glam | What is the key stroke to swith between workspaces? |
| 16:09.10 | Gentle | ctrl-tab |
| 16:09.27 | Gentle | and ctrl-fX for a specific screen |
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| 16:10.18 | glam | Gentle: Ctrl-tab don't work for me, while Ctrl-F2 does. |
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| 16:11.42 | Gentle | on Kubuntu, ctrl-tab is disabled by default |
| 16:12.06 | glam | I am on Opensuse 11. |
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| 16:12.49 | Gentle | never had a suse installation, I just know that ubuntu disabled ctrl-tab |
| 16:13.37 | glam | ctrl-f1 is ok with me. |
| 16:14.06 | glam | just like the Linux console! |
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| 16:15.17 | HalphaZ | when I try to download a new plasmoid from internet, plasma crashes... and it happens from too many time.. its it only a my problem or is a wkon problem? |
| 16:15.24 | HalphaZ | *know |
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| 16:16.54 | Half-Left | hal1on, 4.0x or 4.1? |
| 16:17.01 | Half-Left | HalphaZ, ^ |
| 16:17.39 | HalphaZ | 4.1 |
| 16:17.45 | HalphaZ | from trunk |
| 16:17.53 | HalphaZ | copmpiled this morning |
| 16:18.05 | Half-Left | yep same here, report it or see if it's been reported |
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| 16:20.26 | kdepepo | HalphaZ, confirmed. |
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| 16:27.29 | HalphaZ | confirmed? because also you have the same problem, or because already exists a bug report? |
| 16:27.54 | HalphaZ | bugs.kde.org? |
| 16:29.00 | Half-Left | yes and search for it first |
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| 16:30.19 | daskreech | Is there a HIG for the KDE shortcuts? |
| 16:30.22 | HalphaZ | http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=164411 |
| 16:30.28 | HalphaZ | is this the bug? |
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| 16:31.11 | HalphaZ | can i confirm that bug? |
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| 16:33.35 | Half-Left | HalphaZ, Three people here already have |
| 16:33.59 | Half-Left | Looks like it |
| 16:34.53 | Half-Left | HalphaZ, It's been done, just sit back and wait for the fix in trunk :) |
| 16:35.24 | Half-Left | Hopefully it will get fixed soon |
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| 16:35.58 | HalphaZ | I sat |
| 16:36.04 | HalphaZ | and I'm waiting |
| 16:36.34 | Half-Left | Well it could be anytime |
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| 16:36.49 | HalphaZ | how can i see my kde4.1 revision number? |
| 16:37.30 | Half-Left | About KDE in the app |
| 16:37.54 | Half-Left | "Version 4.00.83 (KDE 4.0.83 (KDE 4.1 Beta2)" :) |
| 16:38.36 | HalphaZ | cat kde4trunk/log/2008-06-20-03/kdesupport/svn-up.log |
| 16:38.55 | HalphaZ | 822529, is it possible? |
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| 16:38.58 | pielgrzym | hi peeps |
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| 16:40.27 | pielgrzym | could anyone help me to track the problem - I've got a sony ericsson phone mounted by hal as: /dev/sdh1 on /media/PHONE CARD type vfat (rw,nosuid,nodev,noatime,uhelper=hal,flush,uid=1000,utf8,shortname=lower) - I can r/w using dolphin or konqueror, but amarok spawns an error (failed to copy to the device). Is there a way to determine where is the problem located? |
| 16:42.49 | HalphaZ | <PROTECTED> |
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| 16:43.46 | Half-Left | yay |
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| 16:54.47 | rand_acs | I have a strange issue that might relate to KDE, after updating my kubuntu this morning and installing KDE4.0 I can't access any of my NFS dirs with KDE apps(they just crash), the shell and gtk apps are working fine, any ideas on this? |
| 16:54.49 | Camu\ | how can i add new window decorations to kwin? |
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| 16:55.11 | annma | rand_acs: ask in #kubuntu |
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| 16:55.31 | annma | rand_acs: provide a crash report in pastebin as well probably |
| 16:55.43 | annma | Camu\: hack the code? |
| 16:55.53 | Camu\ | annma :S |
| 16:56.06 | Half-Left | annma, Did you see my mockup for icon drag and drop for plasma? |
| 16:57.10 | rand_acs | annma: thanks for the tip but unfortunately nobody there seems to know either atm |
| 16:57.30 | annma | #kubuntu-kde or something |
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| 16:57.53 | annma | rand_acs: when you say they crash, what do you mean? |
| 16:58.05 | Camu\ | but i see a lot of window decorations for kwin in kde-look.org |
| 16:58.17 | annma | Camu\: then copy that |
| 16:58.26 | Camu\ | oh |
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| 16:59.26 | kdepepo | Camu\, you cannot use KDE3 decorations on KDE4 (or visa verse) |
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| 17:00.08 | Camu\ | kdepepo, i know? |
| 17:00.29 | kdepepo | Camu\, ok :) |
| 17:00.32 | Camu\ | "Native KDE 3.2+" |
| 17:00.35 | rand_acs | annma: ok sorry, crash is not correct, it hangs, as in it keeps on reading(I can see my network switch going mad) but doesn't load the content of the dir, then eventually I get the kwin "terminate" dialog |
| 17:00.59 | kdepepo | Camu\, yeah, that "+" may be misleading... but you got it. |
| 17:01.07 | annma | rand_acs: what app? |
| 17:02.44 | rand_acs | dolphin, amarok, konq, basically any time I try and access those nfs dirs with the file dialog |
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| 17:03.26 | Half-Left | LOL, I thought the toolbar was fixed in Konqueror but now it's expanding the other way now :p |
| 17:03.26 | rand_acs | but with the shell I can read them fine |
| 17:04.32 | annma | rand_acs: how? |
| 17:04.39 | annma | how in the shell? |
| 17:05.07 | rand_acs | annma: ls /mnt/nfs_dir or mplayer /mnt/nfs_dir/song.mp3 |
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| 17:05.36 | annma | are the partitions listed in dolphin? |
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| 17:05.58 | ann_eat | dinner time |
| 17:06.16 | ann_eat | run dolphin & in konsole and watch the output rand_acs |
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| 17:13.44 | rand_acs | ann_eat: thanks, I'll play around |
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| 17:49.43 | annma | rand_acs: also you can run dolphin through gdb |
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| 17:49.59 | annma | and when it hangs, ctrl C then type bt |
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| 17:59.06 | daskreech | rand_acs: #kubuntu-kde4 |
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| 18:18.08 | cheater-conrad | how do you set the digital clock |
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| 18:18.13 | cheater-conrad | it's drinv me nuts i cant figure it out lol |
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| 18:22.00 | annma | set what? |
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| 18:29.41 | JanMalte | how can i disable the message notifications for kopete (kde4) |
| 18:30.49 | Half-Left | In the notification options |
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| 18:32.53 | JanMalte | i already changed it, but the appear again |
| 18:32.59 | JanMalte | even after restarting kopete |
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| 18:34.50 | Half-Left | Just uncheck the popup option |
| 18:35.15 | Half-Left | Where it says State |
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| 18:36.29 | JanMalte | yes, i did it, but the appear again and agfain |
| 18:37.01 | Half-Left | Well you didn't uncheck the right one then or something |
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| 18:39.18 | JanMalte | I unchecked everything for all options |
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| 18:50.36 | __Adam__ | hello |
| 18:50.48 | __Adam__ | i cant seem to change the size of my desktop icons |
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| 18:55.14 | __Adam__ | i cant seem to change the size of my desktop icons? |
| 18:55.31 | Half-Left | Some cool KDE4.1 and Plasma coolness http://img29.picoodle.com/img/img29/4/6/20/f_Plasmam_19ab91d.png |
| 18:55.38 | Half-Left | :) |
| 18:55.55 | __Adam__ | i cant seem to change the size of my desktop icons in KDE4? |
| 18:56.32 | Half-Left | __Adam__, Scale them |
| 18:57.12 | __Adam__ | i tried changing the icon size to 22 |
| 18:57.17 | __Adam__ | nothing happens |
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| 19:00.00 | Half-Left | __Adam__, Mouse over the icon and scale it with the handle |
| 19:00.32 | __Adam__ | they only scale larger :( |
| 19:00.36 | __Adam__ | not smaller |
| 19:00.48 | __Adam__ | they are huge! |
| 19:01.06 | __Adam__ | 4 down 9 across |
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| 19:01.31 | Half-Left | Well in 4.1 they can scale large or small as you want |
| 19:04.28 | __Adam__ | but they are not doing so! |
| 19:04.45 | freaka | the question really is: when will someone get koffice 2 complete? |
| 19:04.48 | freaka | we need an office suite |
| 19:04.53 | freaka | openoffice just beat ms office |
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| 19:05.56 | Half-Left | __Adam__, Well thats 4.0.x for you then, 4.1 will be much better for configuration and more flexible |
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| 19:22.53 | bipolar | is there a release schedule for 3.5.10 out anywhere? |
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| 19:23.41 | chlue | Hello where does krunner (kde3.59) look for files? It does not start the first programm in the normal searchpath. Does it search only the 'startmenu' ? |
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| 19:25.50 | Pliskin | chlue : you talk about katapult ? |
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| 19:26.54 | thiago_home | chlue: there's no krunner in KDE 3.5 |
| 19:27.43 | chlue | Pliskin, thiago_home: the thing that starts when I press alt+F2. A least it look similar to krunner |
| 19:28.31 | thiago_home | minicli |
| 19:28.33 | Pliskin | the "Run Command" does what his name means |
| 19:28.44 | thiago_home | it runs the first command in PATH |
| 19:29.01 | Pliskin | he doesn't search on the menu |
| 19:29.17 | Pliskin | it* |
| 19:29.18 | thiago_home | no, it doesn't search the menu |
| 19:29.33 | thiago_home | krunner (KDE4) does |
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| 19:30.10 | chlue | I compiled a programm and placed a link at /usr/local/bin/ If I enter the name in a console the correct programm is loaded, but alt+f2 still starts the programm in /usr/bin/ |
| 19:31.27 | thiago_home | maybe your path inside kdesktop is different |
| 19:31.52 | Qhestion | ehm, for konsole / kde 4.0.5, is there no shortcut to switch between left/right (top/bottom) split window? there is none listed in Settings -> ConfigureShortcuts... |
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| 19:33.14 | chlue | thiago_home: Any idea where to look for that path? I thought Konsole would use the same path as the rest of KDE. |
| 19:33.21 | thiago_home | chlue: it does |
| 19:33.24 | thiago_home | konsole is the odd man out |
| 19:33.46 | neuzo | somebody uses kdevelop? |
| 19:33.49 | thiago_home | konsole is different because it loads your shell interactively. That means your shell (not KDE) may decide to change the paths. |
| 19:34.05 | thiago_home | this is not a KDE issue |
| 19:34.17 | thiago_home | it's a matter of setting your environment correctly, in the proper scripts |
| 19:34.27 | thiago_home | please read your shell's manuals to find out how to do that |
| 19:34.37 | neuzo | i need to make kdevelop insert a scheme like |
| 19:34.42 | chlue | thiago_home: but Konsole is the one who does it right :-( |
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| 19:34.55 | neuzo | { |
| 19:34.56 | neuzo | text here |
| 19:34.56 | neuzo | } |
| 19:35.04 | thiago_home | chlue: probably because you wrote the commands in a script that is loaded only in interactive shells |
| 19:35.05 | neuzo | when i digit { [ENTER] |
| 19:35.20 | thiago_home | chlue: put it in a login shell script or in a script that is loaded in any shell |
| 19:35.56 | chlue | thiago_home: Ok I will try to find where they are. Thanks. |
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| 20:22.25 | fir3_ | hi |
| 20:22.54 | GraveDigger | erm... what is /usr/bin/nepomukservicesstub (good for), it eats up my cpu right now |
| 20:23.05 | fir3_ | when i activate the kwin composite effect some windows become invisible or are drawn completely black |
| 20:23.08 | GraveDigger | what does it do? is it safe to kill? |
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| 20:23.22 | thiago_home | fir3_: KDE 3? |
| 20:23.33 | fir3_ | kde4 beta1 |
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| 20:24.13 | thiago_home | hasn't seen that |
| 20:24.20 | thiago_home | kwin in KDE 3 did it |
| 20:24.25 | thiago_home | windows would become 100% transparent |
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| 20:25.04 | fir3_ | when i open a new windows there's only a black area |
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| 20:27.06 | fir3_ | this only seems to happen when i have a game running(warsow etc..) |
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| 20:30.57 | shadok | do you use composite ou compiz ? |
| 20:31.40 | fir3_ | nope, kwin-kde4 |
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| 20:31.54 | fir3_ | (composite) |
| 20:32.17 | shadok | it may be a limitation due to the memory on your graphic card |
| 20:33.33 | fir3_ | suspected something like that |
| 20:33.52 | fir3_ | my graphic card has 128mb, is that too less? |
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| 20:36.22 | shadok | i suppose any game will take as much as it can, having more may not resolve that problem but X (i suppose) should distribute memory correctly |
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| 20:39.44 | AlexC_ | hey all |
| 20:40.50 | AlexC_ | not sure if this is OT for here, however - I'm trying to find some documentation on how to actually understand the graphs produced by kCacheGrind, I simply can't find anything on it - it's not the most understanding of programs |
| 20:41.09 | thiago_home | what graphs? |
| 20:41.27 | thiago_home | can you post a screenshot of what you're looking at? |
| 20:41.58 | AlexC_ | like the call graphs, flow diagrams etc. For example it is saying for my PHP app that main{} is taking up 100.76% of the time, yet below it says something else is taking up 97% ofthe time. 97+100 != 100 |
| 20:42.00 | AlexC_ | thiago_home, sure, hold o |
| 20:42.46 | GraveDigger | is it normal that nepomukstorage runs at full cpu load for 2 hours now? |
| 20:43.03 | GraveDigger | or may i consider this as abnormal program execution and terminate it? |
| 20:43.04 | thiago_home | GraveDigger: no |
| 20:43.09 | GraveDigger | okay |
| 20:44.32 | AlexC_ | thiago_home, http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/1991/screenshottmpcachegrindfz4.png |
| 20:45.04 | thiago_home | AlexC_: ok |
| 20:45.12 | AlexC_ | thiago_home, none of the values add up, I must be doing something wrong or reading it wrongly =\ |
| 20:45.13 | thiago_home | AlexC_: 100.76% is an error. It should be 100% |
| 20:45.22 | thiago_home | it means 100% of your program's time is spent inside main |
| 20:45.31 | thiago_home | not exclusively in main's code, but also in the functions main calls |
| 20:45.41 | AlexC_ | right ok |
| 20:45.49 | thiago_home | the graph isn't complete. It only shows the most significant contributions. |
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| 20:45.57 | thiago_home | lower levels are functions called by the upper levels |
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| 20:46.20 | thiago_home | the percentage that you're seeing is the CPU time spent in that function relative to the total |
| 20:46.32 | AlexC_ | thiago_home, ok, so see far-right, the Theme->load_sector_controllerrs, the value - 50.30% on there means that in total, 50.30% of the time is spent in that? |
| 20:46.32 | thiago_home | you can make it relative to the parent too, so each level should add up to 100% |
| 20:46.54 | AlexC_ | thiago_home, oh that may be more helpful |
| 20:47.30 | thiago_home | you can also switch it to absolute numbers |
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| 20:49.41 | AlexC_ | ok, changing that helps slightly, values still don't add up as I would expect, though |
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| 20:51.23 | thiago_home | what generated the input file? |
| 20:51.27 | thiago_home | valgrind --tool=callgrind? |
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| 20:53.01 | AlexC_ | thiago_home, xDebug extension for PHP |
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| 21:03.40 | AlexC_ | anyway, thanks thiago_home |
| 21:03.41 | AlexC_ | g'bye =) |
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| 21:20.36 | henkie | hi, i have a possible stupid question |
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| 21:20.47 | henkie | my gnome apps dont have any icons in kde |
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| 21:20.55 | henkie | in the systray |
| 21:21.21 | freaka | yep |
| 21:21.40 | henkie | for example the pulseaudio applet |
| 21:22.06 | henkie | can this be kde's fault? or just a crappy setup on my side? |
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| 21:23.16 | dionoid | geia |
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| 21:31.16 | R2LM | I'm using the KDE 3.5 version of Mandriva, and the program icons to the right of the Kmenu (in the lower panel) always take up one row even when the panel size is set to normal or large. How can I get two rows of icons? |
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| 21:32.25 | shadok | R2LM: you can use the quicklaunch applet |
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| 21:33.47 | djouallah | lock desktop don't accept my password, kde4.0.82, ubuntu ? |
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| 21:34.08 | MaxHeadroom | Hello, how do I get the recently used documents list to clear in Kickoff (kde 3.5.9)? I right clicked in the list and picked clear, but it doesn't change |
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| 21:34.42 | R2LM | shadok: Thanks, I didn't realize I had to use the quicklauncher to get two rows of icons, but whatever works. :) |
| 21:34.52 | shadok | :) |
| 21:34.53 | shadok | np |
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| 21:41.23 | twinkie_addict | im trying to make emerald --replace work at kde4 startup but it fails to work but works fine in run dialog |
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| 21:47.34 | Simkin | my mouse started bouncing the kde logo |
| 21:47.36 | Simkin | and now it won't stop |
| 21:47.39 | Simkin | what do i kill!? |
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| 21:49.13 | MinceR | it will stop after 30 seconds by default |
| 21:51.48 | twinkie_addict | how do i keep the kde window decorator from loading and have emerald load as the default window decorator ? |
| 21:54.05 | MaxHeadroom | How do I get the rightclick/clear docs in kickoff to work? right now it does nothing (kde 3.5.9) |
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| 21:55.49 | Half-Left | twinkie_addict, there's a KDE version |
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| 21:57.13 | Half-Left | emerald --replace should do it |
| 21:57.24 | twinkie_addict | i should be useing it it came down with the kde4 version of compiz-fusion , im running opensuse 11 |
| 21:57.45 | twinkie_addict | but i have to run emerald replace every time i log in |
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| 21:58.05 | Half-Left | Did you disable the kde composer? |
| 21:58.15 | twinkie_addict | im trying to not have to do that by hand |
| 21:58.33 | Half-Left | Just disable it in the System Settings |
| 21:58.48 | twinkie_addict | let me see |
| 21:59.20 | Half-Left | under Desktop |
| 21:59.59 | twinkie_addict | yeh i have the effects truned off |
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| 22:00.41 | Half-Left | Well add emerald to the session in the system settings advanced |
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| 22:00.56 | twinkie_addict | isnt there away to save session in kde 4 ? |
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| 22:01.31 | Half-Left | No because emerald is not a KDE ass supported to be saved |
| 22:01.36 | Half-Left | app* |
| 22:02.00 | daskreech | ponders Half-Left's KDE ass |
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| 22:02.25 | Half-Left | :) |
| 22:02.44 | twinkie_addict | i event ryed adding emerald to the autostart folder with is comand bing emerald --replace and still had normal window borders |
| 22:03.23 | Half-Left | Ask emerald devs to sort it for you then |
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| 22:04.36 | Half-Left | There is a KDE version of emerald with a different name, heldor or something like that |
| 22:04.56 | twinkie_addict | ok iill look into it thanks |
| 22:05.41 | Half-Left | twinkie_addict, Emerald dont have KDE in mind and only KDE apps that support kde session will work on startup |
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| 22:06.54 | Half-Left | unless thats changed in $ which I doubt |
| 22:06.59 | Half-Left | 4 |
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