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| 00:07.04 | vinicius | ok, what is going on with aseigo's blog? |
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| 00:08.12 | iuso | vinicius: invite only? |
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| 00:09.02 | EagleScreen | i have a video with cps extension |
| 00:09.15 | vinicius | iuso: is that permanent? |
| 00:09.49 | EagleScreen | it has been recordered with KDE4 record video plugin of Desktop Effects |
| 00:10.20 | EagleScreen | how can I play it? what media player can play it? do I need any codec? |
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| 00:12.23 | vinicius | that means |
| 00:12.34 | vinicius | aseigo wont be on http://planetkde.org/ anymore |
| 00:12.35 | vinicius | ? |
| 00:13.54 | MetaMorfoziS | hmá¹ |
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| 00:16.45 | iuso | vinicius: no idea |
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| 00:46.04 | mkz | quick question: how to I use konqueror to open audio cd's? isn't it media:/ or something? |
| 00:46.26 | mkz | note: kde 3.5 |
| 00:46.53 | Dhraakellian | mkz: you can get to it from there |
| 00:47.07 | Dhraakellian | but audiocd:/ will get you there quickly |
| 00:47.12 | Dhraakellian | more quickly, that is |
| 00:47.44 | mkz | that was it! |
| 00:48.00 | Dhraakellian | would probably use rubyripper instead, but he hangs out around EAC-loving audiophiles too much for his own good anyway |
| 00:48.49 | mkz | looking to rip to mp3 and recall using audiocd:/mp3 in the past... |
| 00:48.58 | mkz | not familiar with rubyripper |
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| 00:49.09 | Dhraakellian | rubyripper uses the same ripping program under the hood as KDE's audiocd:/, but it does multiple rips of each track to verify that it's a good rip |
| 00:49.12 | Dhraakellian | shrugs |
| 00:49.19 | Dhraakellian | hmm |
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| 00:49.42 | Dhraakellian | wonders if there's an audiocd:/speex when speex installed on the system |
| 00:50.07 | mkz | what lib needs to be installed in order to rip mp3 from konqueror? |
| 00:50.12 | Dhraakellian | lame |
| 00:50.26 | mkz | of course... |
| 00:50.28 | mkz | :) |
| 00:50.57 | Dhraakellian | "lame ain't (an) mp3 encoder" (since it was originally just a wrapper around FhG's encoder once upon a time, iirc) |
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| 00:52.16 | mkz | arg... installing lame isn't enought for konqueror to load audiocd:/mp3 or audiocd:/MP3 (I forget which case is correct, but neither work)... |
| 00:55.48 | oneforall | cdparionioa? |
| 00:57.07 | oneforall | linmad |
| 00:57.11 | oneforall | err libmad |
| 00:58.58 | mkz | sadly, this is a new machine build and I can't recall exactly what libs were required, but I used to be able to simply use konqueror with audiocd:/MP3 and then drag and drop to whatever location I wanted. Personally, I don't have to use konquorer, but it works well. Right now I can't see the MP3's with konquorer, so clearly I've missed an important lib... I have lame installed, as well as gstreamer0.10-lanme (just for good measure). Still |
| 00:58.58 | mkz | no joy |
| 00:59.39 | mkz | cdparanoia doesn't appear to export to mp3 (according to man cdparanoia |
| 01:00.15 | mkz | but then I suppose I could just use lame.. |
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| 01:03.02 | mkz | hmmm... seems to be working now. Installed mpg123 (which is a player) but it must have installed a lib I was missing. Anyway, I'm where I want to be. Thanks for the hint Dhraakellian |
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| 01:04.43 | Dhraakellian | heh |
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| 02:08.06 | walter_ | alguien habla español |
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| 02:31.58 | PeterFA | HAPPY NEW YEAR!! |
| 02:32.02 | PeterFA | Oh, crap, stupid lag. |
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| 02:35.27 | Dr_john | Hi, in konq, is there a way to use auto internet URL completion, like in firefox, so you can just type 'hat' and it'll redirect to www.hat.com? |
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| 04:25.38 | Nyle | hey |
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| 05:12.34 | ublongata | any known problem with Input Actions in KDE 4? (khotkeys / mouse gestures) cant get it working |
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| 05:42.48 | asdfasdf | hey i have a problem i cant make kopete say as personal msg what im listening to in amarok :S |
| 05:43.16 | asdfasdf | using kde 4.0.5 at fedora 9 amarok 1.4.9 and kopete 0.50.1 |
| 05:44.12 | asdfasdf | i tried manually "dcop kopete default setAway hello world" and i get this: object not accessible |
| 05:45.22 | gmartyn | i thought dcop was replaced by dbus in kde4 |
| 05:45.36 | asdfasdf | :O |
| 05:45.47 | asdfasdf | im pretty sure the script is really old |
| 05:45.57 | asdfasdf | plus the one that comes with kopete doesnt work |
| 05:46.13 | asdfasdf | dbus command not found |
| 05:46.18 | jazka | qdbus |
| 05:46.49 | asdfasdf | Service 'kopete' does not exist. |
| 05:47.07 | jazka | I think it's org.kde.kopete |
| 05:47.12 | jazka | look from the list you get |
| 05:48.20 | asdfasdf | amarok and kopete arent on the list |
| 05:48.32 | gmartyn | ah |
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| 05:49.08 | gmartyn | f9 uses kde3 amarok but kde4 kopete |
| 05:49.40 | asdfasdf | yup |
| 05:49.44 | jazka | so obviously the kopete music plugin won't work with amarok 1.4.9 |
| 05:49.54 | asdfasdf | not so obvious |
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| 05:50.11 | asdfasdf | so i must wait for amarok 2? |
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| 05:52.24 | asdfasdf | i tried "qdbus org.kde.kopete default setAway hello world" and i got a "Path 'default' is not a valid path name." |
| 05:52.32 | asdfasdf | im getting close perhaps |
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| 05:53.33 | jazka | try qdbus org.kde.kopete /default setAway hello world |
| 05:53.54 | asdfasdf | org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.UnknownObject (No such object path '/default') |
| 05:54.11 | jazka | what does qdbus org.kde.kopete give you? |
| 05:54.14 | jazka | wait, i'll run kopeter |
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| 05:54.55 | asdfasdf | http://rafb.net/p/v9MPeO84.html |
| 05:55.00 | asdfasdf | jazka, that |
| 05:56.37 | jazka | qdbus org.kde.kopete /Kopete , those are your options, the list that gives |
| 05:57.00 | mano123 | how to install the server in KDE desktop |
| 05:57.05 | jazka | maybe qdbus org.kde.kopete /Kopete setOnlineStatus string |
| 05:57.38 | asdfasdf | method void org.kde.Kopete.setStatusMessage(QString message) |
| 05:57.42 | asdfasdf | hmm |
| 05:58.08 | jazka | so it's qdbus org.kde.kopete /Kopete setStatusMessage string |
| 05:58.14 | jazka | string being the mssage you want |
| 05:58.23 | asdfasdf | yes |
| 05:58.28 | asdfasdf | but it doesnt change |
| 05:58.28 | asdfasdf | :( |
| 05:58.55 | asdfasdf | nothing next to the yellow paper at the down left corner :( |
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| 06:00.25 | jazka | mano123: server? |
| 06:00.58 | asdfasdf | i wish there was someone in kopete's chan :( |
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| 06:01.57 | mano123 | yup |
| 06:02.09 | mano123 | as to install a proxy server |
| 06:04.07 | pinotree | mano123: you should ask in the channel of your distro |
| 06:04.45 | mano123 | ok |
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| 06:15.36 | ublongata | do Input Actions work for anyone KDE4 |
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| 06:28.03 | AbsTradELic | please |
| 06:28.25 | AbsTradELic | can anyone tell me a good live-cd with kde4 ? |
| 06:28.38 | AbsTradELic | exist it ? |
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| 06:32.33 | jazka | AbsTradELic: http://home.kde.org/~binner/kde-four-live/ maybe this |
| 06:33.46 | picca | how many people here are still using kde 3.5.* as their main desktop? |
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| 06:34.35 | ublongata | just switch to 4 today |
| 06:34.46 | picca | are you sing kde 4.1 beta, ublongata? |
| 06:34.50 | ublongata | 4 was a mess for a long time. i'm using svn |
| 06:34.52 | jazka | been using kde4 since January |
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| 06:35.00 | jazka | (trunk) |
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| 06:35.00 | GuyFromHell_ | Just wanted to pop by and say that 4.1 beta2 is absolutely brilliant. If there are any devs in here keep up the good work =) |
| 06:35.04 | picca | i might make the switch soon |
| 06:35.06 | ublongata | trunk |
| 06:35.19 | picca | i tried 4.1 beta 1 and have to say very impressed |
| 06:35.41 | picca | i think when 4.1 is released it might be at that stage where i switch over completely |
| 06:35.51 | ublongata | but now i find that Input Actions dont work which i use a lot. ill have to get the kde3 daemon working just to use it |
| 06:35.51 | picca | but still need to check koffice as i use that a lot |
| 06:37.29 | ublongata | new interface is really smooth |
| 06:37.42 | picca | i love the whole plasma concept |
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| 06:38.00 | picca | not sure why people bitch about it - i think it is excellent |
| 06:38.17 | jazka | it's just that nothing is enough for some people |
| 06:38.28 | jazka | and they just whine, and do nothing about it |
| 06:38.57 | ublongata | havent tried koffice or any kdepim stuff yet besides akregator.. couldnt get opensync/kitchensync compiled/working right so i bet it's missing a lot of functionality |
| 06:39.17 | ublongata | eh |
| 06:39.22 | ublongata | what's the criticism of plasma |
| 06:39.41 | sjraarke | Hi all, quick question. |
| 06:39.45 | picca | i really appreciate KDE ... recently i decided to try out alternatives (something i do every few years) and tried Gnome and XFCE, but they just don't compare in terms of functionality and application availability (also seem very slow) |
| 06:40.07 | picca | XFCE didn't seem slow - must add |
| 06:40.22 | sjraarke | I updated my suse 11 kde 4,1 beta 2 and now my alt-F2 doesn't work anymore. Known issue? |
| 06:40.36 | picca | i couldn't managed without alt+f2 |
| 06:40.52 | sjraarke | I have to for now :) |
| 06:41.58 | sjraarke | Other than that, I switched and stuff the whiners |
| 06:42.55 | picca | anyone know when the launch of KDE 4.1 is expected (end of July?) |
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| 06:44.30 | sjraarke | July 29 I think |
| 06:45.15 | Tidus | sjraarke: is katapult loaded? if so, just hit alt+spacebar |
| 06:45.43 | ublongata | sjraarke: i had that problem on earlier 4's.. qdbus would fail randomly and bunch of 'startkde' apps would break... run krunner manually and see what it says |
| 06:46.38 | sjraarke | K hang on, let me try that |
| 06:48.00 | sjraarke | krunner starts the run command alright but it's sorta double action to do that |
| 06:48.10 | sjraarke | Tidus : no katapult |
| 06:50.03 | sjraarke | If something like Kontakt breaks Alt-F2 I guess I have to live with that for the time being. The new Kontakt isn't there yet at least for me. |
| 06:50.14 | ublongata | sjraarke: hm doesnt sound like the same problem i had. only thing i can think of is check ~/.xsession-errors for clues |
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| 06:53.49 | sjraarke | ublongata : nothing in xsession-errors about krunner |
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| 08:55.13 | jazka | interesting...I just updated my xorg-server to 1.4.99.902, and kde4 is a lot smoother now (with nvidia ... I can actually resize konsole now, and other windows are a lot smoother too |
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| 08:56.58 | estan | anyone know if there's a kde4 krandrtray in playground or somewhere else? |
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| 08:58.13 | Zonei | Hi all. Question: How can I add a link to an executable to my desktop and assign custom icon to it? KDE 4. |
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| 09:03.33 | jazka | Zonei: do you have any links on your desktop atm` |
| 09:03.42 | jazka | look inside a .desktop file and create similar one |
| 09:03.49 | Zonei | jazka: yes, default ones, Office, Trash, My Computer and Firefox. |
| 09:03.59 | Zonei | oh, ok, I'll try. |
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| 09:08.23 | Zonei | jazka: thanks! |
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| 09:19.54 | Zonei | jazka: hmm.... it won't run. I copied Firefox' .desktop file and adjusted it. When I click it though, it doesn't run. |
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| 09:23.04 | ffixxx | hi there is no way to see thumbnails in the file selector in the new beta? |
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| 09:23.47 | krish | hi, I did something with my keyboard |
| 09:23.50 | krish | settings |
| 09:24.02 | krish | If I press shift once and release |
| 09:24.16 | krish | the next character the type is a CAPS automatically |
| 09:24.20 | krish | how do I disable that? |
| 09:24.39 | krish | I am using mandriva, KDE 3.5.9 |
| 09:24.43 | Jucato | ffixxx: click on the wrench (settings) icon at the top and select Show Preview |
| 09:24.59 | jazka | krish: hold down the shift key, until you get a popup, and disable it |
| 09:25.02 | jazka | I think it's that |
| 09:25.14 | krish | I tried I am not getting that pop up |
| 09:25.19 | ffixxx | Jucato: that only shows the preview of the file you mouse over |
| 09:25.29 | krish | even Ctrl and Alt all are behaving the same way |
| 09:25.35 | ffixxx | i want to see thumbnails of all files in a directory |
| 09:25.37 | krish | I think its the sitcky keys enabling |
| 09:25.42 | krish | where can I find it ? |
| 09:26.11 | ffixxx | it makes it very tiresome to find the right image in a large directory..... |
| 09:26.19 | krish | aha |
| 09:26.21 | krish | got it |
| 09:26.27 | krish | I had to hold it much longer |
| 09:26.31 | krish | jazka: thks so much |
| 09:26.32 | krish | ;) |
| 09:26.33 | ffixxx | kde3 just showed to thumbnails.... |
| 09:26.35 | Jucato | ffixxx: I see. I believe that's still being worked on |
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| 09:28.58 | ffixxx | i really hope this will be in kde4.1 else it will render the kde file selector almost as useless and frustrating as the gtk file selector |
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| 09:30.26 | Jucato | considering that 4.1 is already in feature freeze, I doubt it. also, it's kind of unfair to consider ti useless and frustrating just because an old feature has not been re-implemented yet (considering many KDE 4 things are a start from scratch type) |
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| 09:33.50 | ffixxx | it's frustrating if you need to find a specific image file from your camera which all non descriptive names in a directory with hundreds of names |
| 09:34.06 | ffixxx | files |
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| 09:36.48 | Jucato | yeah I can understand that. but to immediately consider it to be on the same level as the gtk file selector just for that specific use case... |
| 09:37.10 | Jucato | anyway, I can't find the discussion about that right now, but iirc I came across it in one of the mailing lists |
| 09:37.19 | Jucato | about inline previews in the file dialogs |
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| 09:39.58 | ffixxx | :( |
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| 09:57.32 | SchranZViruS | Hi folks, what do you think about this app: http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php/QVideoConverter?content=83997 ? |
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| 09:59.15 | pinotree | that it just saves you from writing the mencoder command line on your own |
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| 10:00.09 | pinotree | ps: when doing screenshots, run the application via: |
| 10:00.17 | pinotree | $ KDE_LANG=en_US myapp |
| 10:00.24 | SchranZViruS | thats the point, because I didn't like to read the whole options each time I wanted to encode an video. And I think it's (like it is supposed to) be easy so for simple encodings |
| 10:00.45 | SchranZViruS | yes, thanks. I have forgotten that ^^ |
| 10:01.31 | pinotree | no. the point is that the gui is just a set of widgets that map 1:1 the command line options for mencoder |
| 10:02.20 | Jucato | SchranZViruS: well, if it helps you or other people, then continue with it. just imho. really can't say much about the options since I can't understand them :) |
| 10:03.06 | SchranZViruS | thats right, but I know a lot of people who don't want to read the whole man to get the options they need. And because I read it and needed it I know how many options and combinations there are. |
| 10:03.37 | SchranZViruS | And I missed a really simple app where you can say: encode dvd to file with 700mb and thats it. |
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| 10:04.18 | pinotree | this is not "a simple app", this is just a 1:1 gui of mencoder |
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| 10:05.21 | Jucato | pinotree: strangely enough, there are people that prefer that... :/ |
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| 10:05.56 | pinotree | its purpouse is "cloning 1:1 the command line interface of a program with some widgets" -- a bit "poor", i'd say |
| 10:06.49 | SchranZViruS | Yes, but IMHO it's time to get more gui apps instead of command line ones if kde should become more usable |
| 10:07.15 | SchranZViruS | not everyone can or wants to get so much into the whole linux stuff to do all cmd line ones |
| 10:07.25 | pinotree | "get more gui apps", sure, but not cloning 1:1 interfaces just for the sake of it |
| 10:07.45 | Jucato | SchranZViruS: although I would have to agree with pinotree... creating a GUI that is 1:1 just a translation of command line options, just for the sake of making GUI's, is not really a good thing to do. but it's a start anyway |
| 10:08.39 | SchranZViruS | I think so too, thats because this app is only a beginning. I am going to make it an real encoder. And espacially making it thread safe (not like mencoder which runs horribly on multiple processors) |
| 10:08.44 | Jucato | it's not good because 1. It gives GUI's an undeserved bad reputation and 2. exposes the user to the same complexities that a GUI should be helping to solve |
| 10:08.45 | SchranZViruS | But thats gonna take a while |
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| 10:09.19 | Jucato | it's a start. a start is better than nothing, again imho. as long as you keep on improving it, who knows :) |
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| 10:10.09 | SchranZViruS | But as you can think to write an complete encoder / write the whole stuff to work with the libs needs time :) |
| 10:11.04 | SchranZViruS | And I saw a few mencoder guis which have the complexity of mencoder, but there are much users that are confused by this complexity |
| 10:12.07 | pinotree | that's not "complexity" then, but just cloning more or less options |
| 10:12.32 | pinotree | your gui is actually "less complex", just because it clones few options of mencoder's cli |
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| 10:13.05 | SchranZViruS | That was the target (so far) |
| 10:14.37 | SchranZViruS | My target for version 1.0 is to make it an good encoder which uses concurrency framework of qt to get the full power of the system. I missed that with mencoder |
| 10:16.48 | SchranZViruS | And (of course) to make it an real KDE4 application which works with solid. |
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| 10:18.47 | dagobart | Hi everyone |
| 10:19.31 | dagobart | anyone can tell me how to get my nickserv password from konversation? I expected it to be in the wallet, but cannot find it there, so I suspect it's in konversation? |
| 10:21.39 | Jucato | konvi doesn't use kwallet. try ~/.kde/share/config/konversationrc (plain text file) |
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| 10:23.29 | dagobart | Jucato: thanks for the info |
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| 10:49.15 | peratu | Hi. |
| 10:50.33 | soenke| | hello, I have an issue with kopete and the KopeTex-Plugin. Kopetex creates a a png-file in /tmp, but this picture is empty and in Kopete only the written TeX-Code is shown. |
| 10:50.40 | peratu | I need some help with krita. I want to resize an image, but I don't know how to change the units to centimeters. |
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| 11:50.39 | buntfalke | hi |
| 11:50.45 | buntfalke | what to use for drawing control flow graphs? |
| 11:51.14 | PhilRod | umbrello maybe |
| 11:51.51 | nukedclx | svn: No such revision 825785 |
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| 11:53.50 | buntfalke | PhilRod: thanks, i can actually abuse the state-diagram function for that |
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| 11:57.26 | buntfalke | PhilRod: uh, no. i cant. |
| 11:57.44 | Jucato | maybe Kivio? |
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| 12:03.23 | buntfalke | yes, just found that, too |
| 12:03.27 | buntfalke | thanks Jucato |
| 12:07.02 | iuso | how does dolphin store metadata? is it via strigi somehow? |
| 12:07.43 | Half-Left | nepomuk backend does that |
| 12:07.50 | iuso | i'm confused |
| 12:07.55 | iuso | where does strigi fit in? |
| 12:08.01 | Half-Left | it's the search |
| 12:08.06 | Jucato | iuso: indexing |
| 12:08.19 | iuso | ok |
| 12:08.21 | Half-Left | basically any app can use strigi to search |
| 12:08.48 | Jucato | iuso: don't worry. it still requires a rocket science degree to understand all of it for now :) |
| 12:08.48 | iuso | and strigi can search and index by metadata which in turn is set using nepomuk? |
| 12:08.53 | iuso | Jucato: :) |
| 12:09.00 | Half-Left | or nepomuk for that matter for tagging |
| 12:09.40 | Half-Left | nepomuk does the tagging, strigi does the indexing and search |
| 12:09.42 | Jucato | basically, nepomuk's job is to "relate" (metadata), strigi's is to index |
| 12:09.50 | iuso | ok |
| 12:10.19 | iuso | interesting... any chance of GNOME making use of nepomuk/strigi in the future? |
| 12:10.21 | Jucato | now that's theory... I won't have answers for practical questions :) |
| 12:10.25 | Half-Left | The great thing about it is it's right across the desktop and apps |
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| 12:10.47 | iuso | Half-Left: what do you mean "right across"? |
| 12:10.47 | Jucato | iuso: nepomuk is not really a KDE-only project. it's a research project which has a KDE implementation |
| 12:10.48 | Half-Left | Something Microsoft and Apple have been trying to do for years |
| 12:11.02 | Jucato | strigi is also trying to be cross-desktop compatible |
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| 12:11.32 | iuso | it would be fantastic if the different FOSS desktops would use the same backends |
| 12:11.43 | Jucato | "Strigi can be run from different OS and window manager. It has been written focusing on portability and extendability." - http://strigi.sourceforge.net/ |
| 12:12.05 | Jucato | iuso: in a way, they already do afaik. strigi, tracker, etc. are just implementations of a fd.o spec |
| 12:12.08 | Half-Left | iuso: So yot u tag your music and Amarok2 will see this |
| 12:12.10 | Jucato | (I may be wrong of course) |
| 12:12.23 | Half-Left | you* |
| 12:12.55 | iuso | Jucato: i wonder if the spec defines "binary level compatibility" (may be wrong choice of words) |
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| 12:13.27 | Jucato | is not sure what "binary level compatibility" means |
| 12:13.48 | Jucato | anyway, if you're really interested, there are strigi and nepomuk IRC channels |
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| 12:14.09 | Jucato | is not yet ready to go into those.. has enough things to make him crazy as it is |
| 12:14.10 | iuso | ok |
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| 12:15.30 | Half-Left | Effectively you tag your files in Dolphin and all your apps pick them up with ratings also |
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| 12:21.10 | agnitio | I am having some issues with the beta 2 on my desktop, it's very strange, I've made a short summary with screenshots here: |
| 12:21.16 | agnitio | http://dev.100acrewood.se/kde4beta2issues/ |
| 12:21.31 | agnitio | I'm using the gentoo beta ebuilds, but I'm not sure that they are the cause |
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| 12:25.37 | adan | hello to all I have a problem with my sabayon, and is that not like installing the controllers to him of my graphic card ATI RADEON 9550. attempt abrir ATI CATALYST Control Center but gives the following error me " ati installed in its system is no a controller of diagrams or the controller this not working correctly. the controlodor or configurelo with aticonfig" reinstates suitably; I only have a video way 1280x1024 is by which half of the games does not |
| 12:25.37 | adan | mefuncionan and it does rare things to me when executing them. |
| 12:26.43 | PhilRod | adan: /join #sabayon and ask there |
| 12:26.56 | ethan961 | maybe try #sabayon and whatever ati's channel is |
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| 12:31.29 | Half-Left | awesome, they fixed the konqueror bug crashing on exit on some websites like picasaweb |
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| 12:33.02 | TimS | I am using KDE4 and most times i open a program such as Konversation, instead of putting the icon in the sys tray it opens in its own window. Is this a known bug? Its irritating. |
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| 12:34.14 | nukedclx | one question |
| 12:34.26 | nukedclx | bash-3.1$ qmake -v |
| 12:34.26 | nukedclx | Qmake version: 1.07a (Qt 3.3.8) |
| 12:34.32 | nukedclx | its enought for kde4? |
| 12:34.39 | Half-Left | no |
| 12:34.51 | nukedclx | eh, i need qt4? |
| 12:34.59 | Half-Left | You need Qt4 for 4.0 and Qt4.4 for 4.1 |
| 12:35.09 | nukedclx | ah, thanks. |
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| 12:35.20 | annma | 4.4 |
| 12:35.22 | annma | nukedclx: install your distro packages |
| 12:35.26 | Half-Left | hr |
| 12:35.30 | nukedclx | doesnt exists |
| 12:35.32 | nukedclx | slamd64 |
| 12:35.34 | Half-Left | errr, 4.4 yes :p |
| 12:35.36 | annma | what distro? |
| 12:35.53 | nukedclx | annma, 64bit slackware; slamd64 |
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| 12:36.15 | annma | and they don't have KDE 4 packages at all? |
| 12:36.25 | nukedclx | no, they building |
| 12:36.28 | annma | weird, even Debian has them!!! |
| 12:36.36 | annma | they build, yes |
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| 12:36.44 | annma | so they tell you dependencies surely |
| 12:36.57 | nukedclx | http://forums.slamd64.com/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=1165 |
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| 12:37.02 | annma | Gentoo also builds but it takes care of dependencies |
| 12:37.25 | nukedclx | its better thans sex, i go build qt4 |
| 12:37.26 | nukedclx | ;) |
| 12:37.35 | Half-Left | Slackware has always been like that, thridf part package for KDE4 |
| 12:37.49 | annma | who is this fred? |
| 12:37.49 | Half-Left | third* |
| 12:37.58 | nukedclx | fred is maintainer |
| 12:38.06 | PhilRod | annma: fred emmott |
| 12:38.07 | annma | yes I get that, but what's his name? |
| 12:38.09 | annma | ah |
| 12:38.10 | nukedclx | ya |
| 12:38.14 | annma | a KDE devel!!!!!!!! |
| 12:38.19 | annma | he posts on planetKDE |
| 12:38.30 | annma | damn, he shoots us in the back |
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| 12:39.43 | Jucato | he's also online right now :) -----> |
| 12:39.50 | PhilRod | annma: probably busy with RL |
| 12:40.03 | annma | PhilRod: I can understand that but not his comment |
| 12:40.06 | nukedclx | qt-x11-opensource-src-4.4.0.tar.gz |
| 12:40.07 | Jucato | PhilRod: see the link :) |
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| 12:40.18 | nukedclx | thats the pack wchih i need? |
| 12:40.32 | annma | look at techbase.kde.org |
| 12:40.36 | annma | and follow the doc |
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| 12:40.45 | nukedclx | ok |
| 12:41.03 | annma | http://techbase.kde.org/Getting_Started/Build/KDE4/ |
| 12:41.15 | nukedclx | Welcome to KDE TechBase (pl) |
| 12:41.20 | nukedclx | my language ;-D |
| 12:42.12 | nukedclx | i following with the doc |
| 12:42.12 | PhilRod | annma, Jucato: ah, didn't see that. Hm, that is kinda surprising. Well, to some extent 4.0 was an early adopters' release |
| 12:43.00 | annma | I thought slackware was a build distro as well |
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| 12:43.14 | annma | is lost in all these distros |
| 12:43.27 | pinotree | suggests annma to use LFS |
| 12:43.51 | ethan961 | recommends Arch Linux |
| 12:44.03 | nukedclx | using openbsd & slamd64 |
| 12:44.14 | annma | lol pinotree |
| 12:44.18 | nukedclx | and no more dist based on ... |
| 12:44.31 | Half-Left | used to use slamd63 and slackware |
| 12:44.34 | annma | openbsd!!! |
| 12:44.37 | Half-Left | 64* |
| 12:45.21 | nukedclx | at first i have slackware 9,1; after change my pc moved to slamd64 |
| 12:45.34 | nukedclx | and openbsd i have on my other pc |
| 12:45.45 | annma | saw a presentation of BSDs |
| 12:46.01 | nukedclx | annma, you nationality? |
| 12:46.06 | nukedclx | your* |
| 12:46.33 | annma | French |
| 12:47.04 | nukedclx | maybe someone are from poland? |
| 12:47.49 | nukedclx | how long can take compiling kde4? |
| 12:48.12 | Half-Left | Depends on the speed of you system |
| 12:48.18 | annma | nukedclx: what PC do you have, RAM and CPU? |
| 12:48.19 | nukedclx | but ~ |
| 12:48.40 | nukedclx | model name : AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4200+ |
| 12:48.47 | nukedclx | and ram 1gb |
| 12:48.57 | ethan961 | nice |
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| 12:49.10 | nukedclx | i know ;) |
| 12:49.21 | annma | I guess something like 4 hours for qt, kdesupport, kdelibs and kdebase |
| 12:49.24 | Half-Left | I'd guess 4 hours |
| 12:49.31 | Half-Left | :p |
| 12:49.38 | annma | :) |
| 12:49.41 | nukedclx | i report then ;) |
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| 12:49.54 | ethan961 | what's that in GHz? |
| 12:49.54 | annma | 10⬠if I am right! |
| 12:49.55 | nukedclx | just i waiting for qt |
| 12:50.12 | nukedclx | 6:30 ETA |
| 12:50.18 | Half-Left | annma: Eurotunnel transmitts thoughts as well :p |
| 12:50.48 | annma | lol |
| 12:50.57 | nukedclx | one more question |
| 12:51.05 | nukedclx | i need only kdesupport, kdelibs and kdebase? |
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| 12:51.18 | nukedclx | or i need build all from svn tree? |
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| 12:52.41 | Half-Left | It's up to you |
| 12:52.43 | buntfalke | I need to draw control flow charts. umbrello and kivio are badly suited for this. other suggestions? |
| 12:52.58 | sandsmark | inkscape =) |
| 12:53.13 | Jucato | buntfalke: yeah, either inkscape or dia... (unfortunately...) |
| 12:53.15 | sandsmark | or a steady hand + krita |
| 12:53.24 | sandsmark | kivio > dia, imho, though |
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| 12:53.43 | Jucato | sandsmark: really? wow. first time I've heard that I think |
| 12:53.53 | sandsmark | heard what? |
| 12:53.56 | DrSlony | Help, is there a gui program for splitting flac files by cue and converting to ogg? |
| 12:54.02 | sandsmark | that I prefer Kivio? |
| 12:54.07 | Half-Left | nukedclx: trunk is just the latest, all the other stuff is optional |
| 12:54.09 | buntfalke | sandsmark: but with all the dia stencils imported then? |
| 12:54.13 | Jucato | sandsmark: that kivio > dia |
| 12:54.18 | sandsmark | DrSlony: have you looked at kde-apps.org |
| 12:54.20 | sandsmark | buntfalke: yes |
| 12:54.24 | buntfalke | sandsmark: couse the kivio stencils are pretty much, well...bad. |
| 12:54.29 | sandsmark | ;) |
| 12:54.36 | buntfalke | i mean. not bad. but - it's missing out on exactly what i need |
| 12:54.42 | buntfalke | okay. i'll give that a try |
| 12:54.43 | sandsmark | hehehe =) |
| 12:54.47 | DrSlony | sandsmark will check it out, anything in particular you can recommend by name? |
| 12:55.12 | sandsmark | DrSlony: no, sorry, but I know there's a crapload of small applications there, for pretty much anything you can dream of =) |
| 12:55.37 | Jucato | DrSlony: you might also want to ask in your distro's channel (for non-KDE alternatives) |
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| 13:16.30 | f4bry | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:16.43 | f4bry | It's a correct english phrase? |
| 13:16.53 | agnitio | sorry for repeating, I'm just really perplexed about this issue with kde4 beta2, the plasma desktop won't stretch to fill the entire screen, and it introduces several weird situations.. has anyone got a clue about it? http://dev.100acrewood.se/kde4beta2issues/ |
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| 13:18.49 | DrSlony | f4bry For this tutorial I've named the directory for the first exam "statN1" and the directory for the second exam "statN2" |
| 13:18.50 | DrSlony | or |
| 13:19.08 | DrSlony | For this tutorial I've named the directories for the first and second exams "statN1" and "statN2" respectively. |
| 13:19.54 | agnitio | should I write a bug report about the issue? |
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| 13:20.55 | agnitio | in either case I would love some guidance on how to get to the bottom of the issue |
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| 13:30.15 | Half-Left | agnitio: ask in #plasma |
| 13:30.29 | agnitio | Half-Left: ah, thanks |
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| 13:32.20 | LukasT | Hi, it is possible to download svn snapshot of kdebase in tar.gz or similar archive? i got problems (it is slow) to svn up local working copy |
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| 13:34.05 | sandsmark | LukasT: yeah, one sec, I'll get you a link |
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| 13:34.08 | Moult | in kmail, how do i set the from: address default? |
| 13:34.10 | john_ | hi, does anyone have that link that explains how to upgrade to kde4 beta |
| 13:34.17 | Moult | john_ which distro? |
| 13:34.21 | john_ | kubuntu |
| 13:34.28 | sandsmark | john_: kubuntu.org |
| 13:34.36 | sandsmark | LukasT: ftp://ftp.kde.org/pub/kde/unstable/4.0.84/src |
| 13:34.49 | sandsmark | that's the latest snapshot, afaik |
| 13:35.03 | LukasT | sandsmark: thank you man ;) |
| 13:35.12 | sandsmark | Moult: in settings -> identities, or something =) |
| 13:35.16 | sandsmark | LukasT: yw =D |
| 13:37.03 | Moult | sandsmark awesome thanks |
| 13:37.08 | sandsmark | np |
| 13:38.00 | Moult | in kde 3.5, i can add another panel, but how do i resize that panel? i looked through the help and it said to go to the extensions options in configure panels, but i didn't find it |
| 13:38.57 | sandsmark | right-click, configure panel, and there should be some options near the bottom of the dialog that pops up |
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| 13:43.28 | sigma_12 | why is the loading animation in konq so big in beta 2? |
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| 13:47.18 | AbsTradELic | bom dia |
| 13:47.20 | PhilRod | sigma_12: there was some discussion of it on the kfm-devel list I think |
| 13:47.35 | PhilRod | (you can read archives on lists.kde.org or www.gmane.org) |
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| 13:49.19 | sigma_12 | hope it gets smaller |
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| 13:52.06 | sourcemaker | how can i migrate my application data and configuration file from kde3 to kde4? |
| 13:52.51 | eNTi | good question |
| 13:53.10 | sigma_12 | dont think you can |
| 13:53.17 | sandsmark | sourcemaker: there's no "easy" way |
| 13:53.31 | sourcemaker | that's bad |
| 13:53.35 | sandsmark | but many apps, like akregator, works okay if you just copy their settings-folder manually |
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| 13:53.58 | sandsmark | sourcemaker: there'll probably be one in kde 4.2, and I think for example OpenSUSE handles it okay |
| 13:54.12 | thiago | sourcemaker: you don't do anything. |
| 13:54.21 | thiago | the configuration files are the same, same format |
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| 13:54.30 | thiago | the upgrade scripts in KDE should take care of any incompatibilities, though. |
| 13:54.32 | sandsmark | sourcemaker: what distro are you on? |
| 13:54.37 | sourcemaker | kubuntu |
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| 14:00.31 | ebdomino | bonjour / hello |
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| 14:04.29 | lopus | i have been trying to locate kickoff menu's items for translation purposes, with no luck; any ideas, suggestions? |
| 14:05.03 | sandsmark | under development? |
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| 14:05.31 | thiago | lopus: which items? the applications? |
| 14:06.08 | lopus | thiago: e.g. the main titles: bookmarks, history, system, applications .. |
| 14:07.12 | lopus | forgot to mention, in KDE 3.5.9 |
| 14:08.11 | Jucato | lopus: for the KDE 3 version, you'll have to ask in #opensuse |
| 14:08.21 | Jucato | it's mainly their app. |
| 14:08.45 | lopus | Jucato: thanks |
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| 14:50.50 | visik7 | hi all |
| 14:51.15 | visik7 | is it possible that the svn checkout run at only 10KB/s |
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| 14:52.25 | annma | depends on your mirror visik7 |
| 14:52.54 | visik7 | annma: I didn't choose it |
| 14:53.01 | Jucato | you really can't |
| 14:53.12 | visik7 | I mean kdesvn-build |
| 14:53.19 | Jucato | anonsvn will automatically connect you to a mirror |
| 14:53.29 | annma | you cannot choose the server but it nevertheless varies |
| 14:53.52 | visik7 | now is working at 3k |
| 14:53.53 | visik7 | :( |
| 14:54.49 | annma | visik7: are you a developer? |
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| 14:56.52 | visik7 | no |
| 14:57.01 | visik7 | why ? |
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| 14:57.22 | visik7 | annma no, why |
| 14:57.24 | visik7 | ? |
| 14:57.30 | Jucato | well if you had an svn account (developer) you'd be able to connect to the main svn server |
| 14:57.42 | nukedclx | how many levels in ksokoban easy (microban) |
| 14:57.45 | Jucato | us mortals need to use anonsvn |
| 14:58.02 | visik7 | nevermind I'll wait |
| 14:58.23 | annma_ | visik7: maybe you should install binaries from your distro then |
| 14:58.45 | Moult | in kmail, some of my non-html text only emails don't show any message, any ideas why? how do i view it? |
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| 14:59.43 | visik7 | can I run 2 kdesvn-build in parallel ? |
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| 15:06.28 | annma | visik7: depends which |
| 15:06.39 | annma | visik7: you need kdelibs and kdebase done |
| 15:06.46 | annma | the rest you can parallelize |
| 15:06.48 | visik7 | svn: Can't connect to host 'anonsvn.kde.org': Connection timed out |
| 15:06.54 | visik7 | :( |
| 15:06.56 | Jucato | visik7: that happens... |
| 15:06.58 | Jucato | yeah.. patience |
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| 15:07.17 | sandsmark | or just try again, I think the anonsvn servers are on dns round-robin |
| 15:07.19 | visik7 | it's overloaded everybody wants the latest code :) |
| 15:07.48 | fred | annma: Hmm, you asked about me? |
| 15:08.22 | buntfalke | What's good to draw control flow graphs? (kivio, dia and umbrello are not) |
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| 15:08.36 | annma | fred: yes, a user wanted to get slam64 KDE4 packages |
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| 15:09.55 | annma | so I was wondering why there are none |
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| 15:12.09 | fred | annma: Ah - there will be for 4.1 |
| 15:13.04 | fred | annma: as well as what's on that forum post: (1) I'm already making SVN builds, making release is more time than I have atm (2) I'll end up throwing away any packaging efforts I do as soon as slackware has build scripts publically |
| 15:13.05 | annma | no beta? |
| 15:13.13 | fred | 2 is a biggy :p |
| 15:13.54 | annma | ok |
| 15:13.59 | annma | it's OK not to have time |
| 15:15.23 | visik7 | cool kdesvn-build returns me different errors every time I reexecute it |
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| 15:16.12 | annma | real men do it by hand visik7 |
| 15:16.26 | visik7 | I'm not :) |
| 15:16.38 | Jucato | visik7: it would be good to first try to do it by hand, then using some script to help automate it when it gets tedious |
| 15:16.54 | Jucato | (you can also do it your way.. but... the disadvantage is that you probably don't know what's happening...) |
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| 15:25.10 | nukedclx | CMake Error: kdelibs requires an out of source build. Please create a separate build directory a nd run 'cmake path_to_kdelibs [options]' there. |
| 15:25.26 | nukedclx | help? |
| 15:26.02 | sandsmark | nukedclx: do as the error message tells you to? |
| 15:26.15 | sandsmark | are you following the guide on techbase? |
| 15:26.20 | nukedclx | yea |
| 15:26.28 | annma | nukedclx: just read and process the message |
| 15:26.34 | nukedclx | svn checkout svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/trunk/KDE/kdelibs |
| 15:26.34 | nukedclx | cd kdelibs |
| 15:26.34 | nukedclx | cmakekde |
| 15:26.40 | nukedclx | cmakekde not found |
| 15:26.43 | nukedclx | but cmake . |
| 15:26.44 | annma | "Please create a separate build directory" |
| 15:26.46 | nukedclx | configuring ;) |
| 15:26.50 | annma | nukedclx: !!! |
| 15:26.52 | annma | all wrong |
| 15:26.58 | Jucato | nukedclx: you didn't follow the guide :) |
| 15:27.03 | Jucato | or rather,didn't read carefully |
| 15:27.18 | nukedclx | hm |
| 15:27.23 | Jucato | annma: I have a feeling we have to overemphasize in bold and rainbow colors the sentence about the sample ~/.bashrc :) |
| 15:27.34 | annma | I gave up on that doc |
| 15:27.37 | Jucato | nukedclx: you didn't copy the .bashrc script |
| 15:27.49 | annma | people do not follow it correctly anyway |
| 15:27.52 | nukedclx | bash-3.1$ source ~/.bashrc |
| 15:27.52 | nukedclx | bash: /home/nukedclx/.bashrc: No such file or directory |
| 15:27.54 | Jucato | annma: "Evil triumphs when good (wo)men do nothing" :P |
| 15:28.00 | annma | lol |
| 15:28.02 | nukedclx | omg i was the file |
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| 15:28.14 | sandsmark | yes, be the file =p |
| 15:28.22 | nukedclx | soz, my lang |
| 15:28.26 | nukedclx | i have |
| 15:28.27 | nukedclx | * |
| 15:28.28 | nukedclx | :D |
| 15:28.31 | sandsmark | nukedclx: copy the sample .bashrc into your homedir =P |
| 15:28.40 | nukedclx | ya i copied, but |
| 15:28.44 | Jucato | strange that you don't have a .bashrc file at all :) |
| 15:28.47 | nukedclx | he disappear |
| 15:28.50 | annma | lol |
| 15:28.54 | nukedclx | :-d |
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| 15:29.00 | Ace2016 | Hi all |
| 15:29.00 | fred | nukedclx: cd $source-directory; mkdir build; cd build; cmake .. # <<< somewhat nicer |
| 15:29.05 | fred | than cmake . |
| 15:29.08 | Ace2016 | is it possible to have an animated taskbar in kde4? |
| 15:29.23 | nukedclx | oh fred here ;-) |
| 15:29.24 | Jucato | fred: cmake . won't even work if . is the source dir |
| 15:29.28 | Jucato | :) |
| 15:29.28 | nukedclx | hi my masta |
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| 15:30.14 | fred | Jucato: oh, kde-specific thing? |
| 15:30.16 | nukedclx | fred when can expect packages with kde4? |
| 15:30.26 | fred | Shortly after slackware has 4.1 packages. |
| 15:30.28 | Jucato | fred: yep. sourcedir != builddir policy |
| 15:30.56 | Jucato | fred: so your "nicer" line is correct :) |
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| 15:31.06 | Jucato | not only correct, but necessary :P |
| 15:31.58 | Ace2016 | i want the windows 95 boot scrollbar (at the bottom of the screen) on my taskbar, so when you're on ac power its solid colour, but when on battery power its moving and it slows and gets darker as you run out of battery power |
| 15:33.06 | PhilRod | Ace2016: probably your best bet would be to mangle the code of the battery monitor plasmoid (I think one exists) |
| 15:33.20 | Ace2016 | so you can have animations? |
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| 15:34.31 | Kunalagon | hell, does somebody use KDE 4 with Gentoo? Does it usefull? |
| 15:34.35 | PhilRod | I guess so, but I don't know for a fact - best to ask in #plasma |
| 15:35.11 | Ace2016 | ok thanks |
| 15:35.18 | Jucato | Kunalagon: #gentoo-kde have people using KDE in Gentoo |
| 15:36.17 | ELITE_x | Kunalagon: you should visit #genkdesvn too |
| 15:36.43 | nukedclx | CMake Error: kdelibs requires an out of source build. Please create a separate build directory and run 'cmake path_to_kdelibs [options]' there. |
| 15:36.43 | nukedclx | -- Configuring done |
| 15:36.43 | nukedclx | bash-3.1$ pwd |
| 15:36.43 | nukedclx | /home/kde4/kdelibs_build |
| 15:37.02 | nukedclx | and i executed source .bashrc file. |
| 15:37.45 | nukedclx | and i do cmake /home/kde4/kdelibs and cmakekde /home/kde4/kdelibs |
| 15:37.55 | nukedclx | same effect |
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| 15:38.03 | annma | if you do cmakekde it does cmake nukedclx |
| 15:38.19 | annma | do not do cmake alone |
| 15:38.56 | nukedclx | but, if i do cmakekde from the saperate dir i got the same err |
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| 15:42.28 | Jucato | nukedclx: cmakekde makes sure that it builds in a separate directory, you need to make sure you're in the correct source directory by typing "cs" |
| 15:42.32 | annma | nukedclx: wait until KDE 4.1 is out in amonth and slam64 will have packages |
| 15:43.03 | nukedclx | annma, i cannot try build myself? :P |
| 15:43.15 | annma | you can try but follow the page exactly |
| 15:43.39 | annma | read a line, do it and so on |
| 15:44.25 | Jucato | nukedclx: you can do it yourself... just make sure you understand what needs to be done. basically you can't build in the same directory as the source directory |
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| 15:45.59 | wesley_ | when i record with kwin with the record plugin i get a file called kwin_video1.cps how to i convert that to a normal format |
| 15:46.16 | annma | wesley_: google |
| 15:46.43 | wesley_ | i am doing that already |
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| 15:47.35 | wesley_ | can you upload cps to youtube ? |
| 15:49.03 | sandsmark | wesley_: install capseo, and then run the following command: cpsrecode -i kwin_video.cps -o - | mplayer - |
| 15:49.24 | wesley_ | i only use kde4 |
| 15:49.27 | sandsmark | (first hit when googling "cps kwin") |
| 15:49.34 | annma | sandsmark: ;) |
| 15:49.40 | sandsmark | ^_^ |
| 15:50.05 | wesley_ | yeah indeed but why do i need to use mplayer |
| 15:50.12 | sandsmark | it's easy to use |
| 15:50.21 | sandsmark | you can probably use anything that takes stdin and encodes it |
| 15:50.36 | ELITE_x | bonjour annma :) |
| 15:50.49 | annma | salut ELITE_x :) |
| 15:51.54 | wesley_ | and how to convert it to a common format |
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| 16:00.03 | sandsmark | wesley_: from reading the cpsrecode --help, I would say "cpsrecode -i filename -c theora -o output.ogg" |
| 16:01.44 | sandsmark | youtube accepts .ogg's with theora, afaik =) |
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| 16:02.56 | sandsmark | and damn, doesn't he disconnect right before I say it, and I don't notice it =3 |
| 16:04.08 | Half-Left | yep thats cool, it's how I did my KDE4 trunk vid and gimp tutorials |
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| 16:09.16 | andyho623 | can someone tell me real quick how to change my ip address in kde4? I forgot how.. :) |
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| 16:13.31 | Nyle | edit /etc/network/interfaces |
| 16:13.41 | Nyle | knetworkmanager? maybe |
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| 16:15.38 | hnsz2002 | hi! i search a kde app. that show actual volume osd-style ins screen, if i change it with fn+ keys. whats name this program? :) |
| 16:16.44 | Jucato | hnsz2002: KMilo (in KDE 3 only) |
| 16:16.44 | hnsz2002 | i use that early, but i forget that name :) |
| 16:17.23 | hnsz2002 | hmm, yes! http://jriddell.org/programs/kmilo-thinkpad-screenshot.png |
| 16:17.29 | hnsz2002 | thx |
| 16:18.21 | hnsz2002 | and if i not find in repository? only for kde4.. :S |
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| 16:18.42 | Jucato | hnsz2002: it doesn't exist for KDE 4. it's only for KDE 3 |
| 16:18.53 | Jucato | hnsz2002: ask your distro. or you will have to build it yourself |
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| 16:19.09 | hnsz2002 | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:19.12 | hnsz2002 | suse 11 :D |
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| 16:19.44 | hnsz2002 | 'csomag' means: package |
| 16:19.45 | Jucato | hnsz2002: oh you'll have to ask in #opensuse |
| 16:25.33 | nukedclx | CMake Error: Phonon library or includes NOT found! |
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| 16:26.45 | nukedclx | i cant find the lib |
| 16:26.54 | Half-Left | nukedclx: What you compiled, what part? |
| 16:27.06 | Jucato | nukedclx: get it from branches/phonon/4.2/ |
| 16:27.46 | Half-Left | Jucato: Thats moved from kdebase now? |
| 16:28.01 | Jucato | Half-Left: "now"? has been for weeks :) |
| 16:28.17 | Jucato | isn't even sure that phonon ever was in kdebase |
| 16:28.36 | Half-Left | Jucato: Yer I seen it on the dot, I forgot where it was and moved to :p |
| 16:29.21 | Half-Left | I'm not using that and it's compiling ok |
| 16:29.38 | nukedclx | whats the difference beetween branch and trunk? |
| 16:30.14 | Half-Left | trunk is dev |
| 16:31.05 | alediaferia | nukedclx: trunk contains all _already_ released stable modules |
| 16:31.21 | Jucato | alediaferia: er.. no |
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| 16:31.45 | Jucato | nukedclx: for phonon, don't mind the location for now... |
| 16:31.52 | alediaferia | Jucato: upgrade me =) |
| 16:31.55 | Jucato | Half-Left: did you build Qt with -phonon? |
| 16:32.05 | alediaferia | sorry |
| 16:32.10 | Jucato | alediaferia: trunk is "unreleased" (using your vocabulary) |
| 16:32.10 | alediaferia | I meant branch! =) =) |
| 16:32.23 | Jucato | :P |
| 16:32.24 | Half-Left | Jucato: I use my distro Qt4.4 |
| 16:32.26 | alediaferia | :P |
| 16:32.40 | nukedclx | svn checkout svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/branches/phonon/4.2 |
| 16:32.43 | nukedclx | right? |
| 16:32.54 | Jucato | Half-Left: which may or may not have phonon. anyway, trunk needs phonon from that place to build |
| 16:32.55 | Half-Left | looks right yes |
| 16:32.56 | Jucato | nukedclx: yep |
| 16:33.20 | nukedclx | and how install that now? ;D |
| 16:33.45 | nukedclx | cmake . from 4.2/? |
| 16:34.30 | Half-Left | Jucato: hmm, I'm building trunk, not even using that phonon 4.2 branch |
| 16:34.33 | Jucato | nukedclx: you still have to build it in a different directory. |
| 16:35.04 | Jucato | Half-Left: I don't know your system, so I can't say. All I know is what *should* be happening/done |
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| 16:35.16 | Jucato | your Qt might have it built, for example. |
| 16:35.32 | Half-Left | Jucato Maybe when it was in trunk it's still ok for the current build? |
| 16:35.41 | Jucato | dunno |
| 16:35.41 | nukedclx | CMake Error: Did not find automoc4 (part of kdesupport). |
| 16:35.52 | Jucato | nukedclx: did you build kdesupport? |
| 16:36.18 | nukedclx | http://techbase.kde.org/Getting_Started/Build/KDE4 |
| 16:36.25 | nukedclx | the doc starting at kdelibs.. |
| 16:36.31 | nukedclx | and kdelibs requires phonon :S |
| 16:36.32 | Jucato | it goes like this: kdesupport -> phonon -> kdelibs -> kdebase -> etc. |
| 16:36.43 | nukedclx | ah |
| 16:37.00 | Jucato | nukedclx: kdesupport falls under "Require packages from your distribution" |
| 16:37.02 | Half-Left | Jucato: Building Qt4 recommends -no-phonon option, so maybe my qt4.4 was built with it and some need it from branches? |
| 16:37.31 | Jucato | Half-Left: that's what I've been saying... (or presuming in your case) |
| 16:37.40 | Half-Left | ok yep |
| 16:37.55 | Jucato | nukedclx: http://techbase.kde.org/Getting_Started/Build/KDE4#Required_packages_from_your_distribution which links to http://techbase.kde.org/Getting_Started/Build/KDE4/Generic among other things |
| 16:38.02 | Jucato | (unless you followed a distro-specific link) |
| 16:38.24 | Half-Left | Jucato: best to get the new version, my phonon will be old now |
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| 16:38.42 | nukedclx | ko |
| 16:39.24 | nukedclx | svn: URL 'svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/branches/KDE/4.0/kdesupport' doesn't exist |
| 16:39.29 | Jucato | Half-Left: and KDE's phonon will most probably more attuned to KDE's needs than Qt's :) |
| 16:40.00 | Half-Left | Jucato: Oh right, just like kdesupport libs are? |
| 16:40.02 | Jucato | nukedclx: because it's not in branches... what guide are you reading? |
| 16:40.35 | Jucato | Half-Left: considering phonon came from kdesupport originally, yeah I'd say so ;) |
| 16:40.42 | Half-Left | haha |
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| 16:41.00 | nukedclx | ah:E |
| 16:41.00 | Half-Left | Yer, thats were is was, all this moving around :) |
| 16:41.03 | nukedclx | trunk |
| 16:41.17 | nukedclx | drunk |
| 16:41.18 | nukedclx | ! |
| 16:41.33 | Jucato | nukedclx: the 2nd link I gave already has the instructions... |
| 16:41.51 | nukedclx | sry, i see |
| 16:42.12 | nukedclx | checkouting, ksokoban time |
| 16:42.15 | nukedclx | ;) |
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| 16:42.34 | Jucato | KAtomic... |
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| 16:44.06 | nukedclx | lol |
| 16:44.09 | nukedclx | what a game |
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| 16:44.18 | nukedclx | i guess first lewel is h20 |
| 16:44.53 | picca | wow finally got KNetworkManager working from scratch - |
| 16:45.37 | Half-Left | can't go a day without drinking from the trunk |
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| 16:48.21 | Half-Left | wonders if that sounds off to some people :p |
| 16:49.13 | annma | lol Half-Left |
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| 16:49.45 | stevec_ | bah to multiple monitors xrandr and kde 4 :-( |
| 16:50.00 | sandsmark | hum, in the last kde snapshot (.84), in the kdeadmin module, there's a folder named "lib", with funny things in, but I don't know how to get them installed |
| 16:50.07 | sandsmark | stevec_: "worksforme" =) |
| 16:50.13 | sandsmark | or, "works" =) |
| 16:50.46 | stevec_ | sandsmark: it sort of works, I have to set the resolution manually with xrandr, then kill off plasma and reload it, then it's mostly working :-) |
| 16:50.53 | sandsmark | ;) |
| 16:51.28 | sandsmark | I'm wondering about donating an extra monitor to all the plasma devs =p |
| 16:51.46 | stevec_ | anyone know how i can move all my icons on my kicker bar back to the left had side in kde4? they are all stuck to the right hand side. and also, can you re-order them? |
| 16:51.57 | sandsmark | unfortunately I gave my 22" to my mother (I just moved, and I didn't find a nice spot for it =/) |
| 16:51.59 | stevec_ | sandsmark: :-) |
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| 16:52.25 | sandsmark | oh, and kicker doesn't exist anymore in KDE 4 =) |
| 16:52.27 | sandsmark | it's all plasma |
| 16:52.44 | sandsmark | and you can't move icons in plasma for kde 4.1 =/ |
| 16:52.49 | sandsmark | you can remove them and re-add them |
| 16:53.35 | stevec_ | sandsmark: if i log in as root they are on the left, under my user they are on the right :-s |
| 16:53.52 | sandsmark | weird... |
| 16:54.06 | Half-Left | Cool feature :p |
| 16:54.08 | sandsmark | kdebindings need some cleaning =/ |
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| 17:04.41 | matiit | Hi, I have a problem with compile kdesupport, I have a Gentoo, QT4 from portage (with dbus support), when i run in kdesupport's source dir cmakekde (i have kde-devel user with .bashrc from techbase) it shows: http://www.nopaste.pl/5fv |
| 17:04.41 | nukedclx | finally building kdelibs |
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| 17:04.45 | nukedclx | 4% |
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| 17:05.40 | matiit | somebody want help? :( |
| 17:06.12 | nukedclx | [ 18%] Built target solid_static |
| 17:06.13 | nukedclx | make: *** [all] Error 2 |
| 17:06.14 | nukedclx | omg.. |
| 17:06.37 | Half-Left | matiit: qt dbus maybe a seperate package |
| 17:07.22 | matiit | Half-Left: qt-dbus I have this package |
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| 17:07.57 | Half-Left | The right version? |
| 17:08.34 | matiit | Half-Left: qt and qt-dbus are 4.4 |
| 17:08.47 | nukedclx | /usr/lib64/gcc/x86_64-slamd64-linux/4.1.2/../../../../x86_64-slamd64-linux/bin/ld: skipping incompatible /lib/libz.so when searching for -lz |
| 17:08.47 | nukedclx | collect2: ld returned 1 exit status |
| 17:08.47 | nukedclx | make[2]: *** [lib/libkdecore.so.5.1.0] Error 1 |
| 17:08.47 | nukedclx | make[1]: *** [kdecore/CMakeFiles/kdecore.dir/all] Error 2 |
| 17:08.53 | nukedclx | thats my nice error |
| 17:08.57 | Half-Left | nukedclx: use pastebin |
| 17:09.04 | nukedclx | sorry |
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| 17:10.20 | Half-Left | matiit: May need to consult your distro channel for why that is, i'm not sure about gentoo |
| 17:11.12 | matiit | Half-Left: but... i compiled qt-copy and I have the same error :/ |
| 17:11.26 | iuso | is it possible to add a google search bar to KDE 4.1's konqueror? i haven't found a way |
| 17:11.37 | Half-Left | did Qt pickup dbus ok? |
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| 17:12.17 | matiit | Half-Left: i dont understand... :/ |
| 17:12.28 | Half-Left | iuso: It's in extragear |
| 17:12.33 | iuso | Half-Left: ok |
| 17:12.41 | Half-Left | the extensions |
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| 17:14.17 | Half-Left | matiit: Double check that Qt was compiled with dbus ok |
| 17:14.28 | matiit | Half-Left: 100% |
| 17:14.46 | matiit | but is it way to check this 1000%? |
| 17:14.50 | Half-Left | you have the actuall .so files it's saying? |
| 17:15.29 | matiit | but where? |
| 17:15.33 | matiit | and what files? |
| 17:17.31 | Zeek | whats the difference between safely removing a flash drive and just unmounting it?? |
| 17:18.27 | matiit | syncing? |
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| 17:19.51 | Half-Left | matiit: Look in usr/lib and see if qt-dbus.so.4 is there |
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| 17:21.20 | Half-Left | libqt-dbus.so.4 |
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| 17:21.40 | matiit | Half-Left: ok moment |
| 17:21.59 | Half-Left | matiit: What prefix are you giving kdesupport, it is that your compiling? |
| 17:22.49 | matiit | Half-Left: all standard povided by .bashrc (from techbase) |
| 17:22.54 | Half-Left | You should try -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=/usr |
| 17:23.23 | Half-Left | oh, I dont use that method myself |
| 17:23.38 | matiit | Half-Left: but i don't want to install it in /usr |
| 17:23.52 | Half-Left | it's just kde support |
| 17:24.15 | matiit | but it won;t be conflict with kde3? |
| 17:24.32 | Half-Left | I compile everything but kdesupport to /usr/lib/kde4 |
| 17:24.54 | Half-Left | kdesupport to /usr because it's general libs |
| 17:25.12 | nukedclx | 139 level ksokoban |
| 17:25.42 | Half-Left | I dont use kde3 so |
| 17:25.53 | matiit | Half-Left: I don;t have libqt-dbus :o |
| 17:26.09 | Half-Left | do you have any qt-dbus? |
| 17:26.16 | Half-Left | .so files |
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| 17:26.45 | matiit | no |
| 17:26.49 | matiit | : |
| 17:27.02 | Half-Left | where is your Qt4 installed? |
| 17:27.18 | matiit | i have version from portage and my own qt-copy |
| 17:27.30 | Half-Left | where did you install it to? |
| 17:27.33 | matiit | qt-copy in QTDIR from bashrc |
| 17:27.56 | Half-Left | whereis qt4 |
| 17:28.10 | Half-Left | type that in the console |
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| 17:28.39 | matiit | qt4: /etc/qt4 /usr/lib/qt4 /usr/include/qt4 /usr/share/qt4 |
| 17:28.59 | matiit | that does not typing my compilaion |
| 17:29.43 | Half-Left | Well your missing the libs for dbus |
| 17:30.35 | matiit | but why it does not giving qt4 in /home/kde-devel? |
| 17:30.46 | Half-Left | There's no other reason why it wouldn't find them really |
| 17:30.51 | matiit | libQtDBus.so |
| 17:30.55 | matiit | i have that |
| 17:31.03 | matiit | and so.4 too |
| 17:31.12 | Half-Left | where? |
| 17:31.31 | matiit | /usr/lib/qt4/libQtDBus.so.4 |
| 17:31.34 | matiit | sory |
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| 17:31.40 | Half-Left | Oh I see |
| 17:32.25 | Half-Left | hmm |
| 17:32.42 | matiit | wow |
| 17:32.54 | matiit | it no found qt4 with dbus |
| 17:33.08 | Half-Left | well yer |
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| 17:33.22 | Half-Left | are all the other libs in there? |
| 17:33.33 | matiit | yes |
| 17:33.36 | Half-Left | And your compile finds Qt4 ok? |
| 17:33.38 | matiit | and in my home |
| 17:33.39 | matiit | yes |
| 17:33.40 | matiit | but |
| 17:33.42 | matiit | http://nopaste.com/p/afvjsHL3H |
| 17:33.51 | matiit | i have never had this |
| 17:33.58 | matiit | it is not my firstt compilation |
| 17:35.40 | Half-Left | matiit: Paste me your /etc/environment file please |
| 17:36.13 | Half-Left | I forgot how to set it manually |
| 17:36.27 | matiit | i have blank this file |
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| 17:39.56 | matiit | Half-Left: ^ |
| 17:40.17 | Half-Left | matiit: Ask you distro channel how to define your environment |
| 17:40.31 | matiit | Half-Left: see all variables? |
| 17:40.35 | Half-Left | should know this |
| 17:40.53 | matiit | Half-Left: or define variables |
| 17:41.15 | Half-Left | yep do it point to your qt4 directory proper |
| 17:41.25 | Half-Left | for dbus |
| 17:41.58 | matiit | Half-Left: http://nopaste.com/p/aMnoN0YK6 |
| 17:42.07 | matiit | all environment variables |
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| 17:43.02 | amro | is there a way to change kate's default folder (when opening files)? |
| 17:43.49 | Half-Left | matiit: Why is QTDIR=/home/kde-devel/qt-copy ? |
| 17:44.07 | matiit | I have qt there |
| 17:44.37 | Half-Left | Well you should be tellign it to /usr/lib/qt |
| 17:45.29 | Half-Left | try setting it to /usr |
| 17:45.32 | matiit | Half-Left: But I have qt there too |
| 17:45.40 | matiit | so to /usr or /usr/lib/qt |
| 17:45.56 | Half-Left | try /usr |
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| 17:46.53 | Half-Left | matiit: Hold on |
| 17:47.05 | Half-Left | Half-Left: I see your other ones there as well |
| 17:47.15 | Half-Left | gah |
| 17:48.05 | matiit | Half-Left: the same error with /usr |
| 17:48.16 | Half-Left | matiit: Refine the rest in the proper prefixes |
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| 17:48.23 | Half-Left | define* |
| 17:48.33 | visik7 | running /home/visi/kdesvn/src/kde4/build/kdebase/workspace/kdm/kfrontend/genkdmconf --in "$DESTDIR/opt/kde4/share/config/kdm" --no-in-notice --face-src "/home/ |
| 17:48.33 | visik7 | visi/kdesvn/src/kde4/kdebase/workspace/kdm/kfrontend/pics" $GENKDMCONF_FLAGS 2>&1 |
| 17:48.33 | visik7 | Cannot create data directory /var/lib/kdm: Permission denied |
| 17:48.41 | visik7 | are there any hardcoded path here ? |
| 17:48.57 | matiit | Half-Left: proper prefixes? |
| 17:48.59 | visik7 | /var/lib/ isn't my predefined install path |
| 17:49.29 | Half-Left | matiit: that file you showed has other prefixes for Qt, i.e lib, include, bin\ |
| 17:50.02 | Half-Left | matiit: So do that according to what whereis qt4 reads out |
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| 17:50.44 | matiit | Half-Left: so I have to define only QTDIR to /usr? it does not work... |
| 17:51.05 | Half-Left | You have to tell it where the libs are as well, you will see the lines |
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| 17:52.02 | Half-Left | _LIBRARY_PATH=/home/kde-devel/kde/lib:/home/kde-devel/qt-copy/lib |
| 17:52.04 | Half-Left | ^ |
| 17:52.15 | matiit | it is good |
| 17:52.24 | matiit | i have qt4 there |
| 17:52.29 | Half-Left | right |
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| 17:53.18 | Half-Left | But ti's not picking up your libs so try there prefix defined in your environment rather than the one you did |
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| 17:53.56 | Budd_ | Hi! Why in kde4 I have very big icons of xchat, pidgin and maybe others in systray? |
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| 17:54.22 | Half-Left | Budd_: 4.1? |
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| 17:54.34 | awosy | wasn't kde 4.1 final suppossed to be released today? |
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| 17:54.41 | Half-Left | no |
| 17:54.51 | Half-Left | next month |
| 17:55.10 | awosy | :) i thought it was this month |
| 17:55.11 | aditsu | hi, using kde 3.5.9, how can I enable display rotation? |
| 17:55.14 | matiit | Half-Left: I have like that in .bashrc http://nopaste.com/p/aOdxCvqDD |
| 17:55.21 | awosy | can't wait :p |
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| 17:57.02 | Half-Left | matiit: Well I'm really not sure about that setup, it maybe the case for soem reason it's not seeing your own qt compile dversion you set and you may need to point it to /usr, /usr/lib/qt4 ect.... |
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| 17:58.12 | r3mix | is there a good equivalent of gdesklets for kde? |
| 17:58.29 | Half-Left | Super karamba |
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| 17:58.53 | Budd_ | Half-Left, how see version? |
| 17:59.22 | Half-Left | Budd_: it's in your app about KDE option |
| 17:59.53 | matiit | Half-Left: http://nopaste.com/p/asBRt2is6 like that? |
| 18:00.02 | Budd_ | Half-Left, 4.0.4 |
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| 18:00.11 | Half-Left | Budd_: Anyway yes it's a bug but fixed in 4.1 |
| 18:00.46 | pinotree | hi idem! :) |
| 18:00.57 | annma | matiit: check if prepend works |
| 18:01.08 | idem | hi pinotree ! |
| 18:01.45 | matiit | annma: how |
| 18:01.54 | Budd_ | Half-Left, what files I need download for fix it? I have openSUSE 11 |
| 18:01.58 | Half-Left | Budd_: it's a matter of getting a good implementation for gtk and KDE apps, at the mement it's pretty much not so you get that bug |
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| 18:02.47 | annma | matiit: echo $PATH |
| 18:03.03 | Half-Left | They are small in 4.1 but still have the solid box around them sometimes |
| 18:03.31 | matiit | annma: http://nopaste.com/p/aX22IyNF8 |
| 18:04.10 | Half-Left | Budd_: Ask in their channel but the bug fix but not proper as I've said |
| 18:04.25 | annma | matiit: no qt-copy/bin here |
| 18:04.29 | annma | so prepend is wrong |
| 18:04.52 | annma | export PATH=/path/to/qt/bin:$PATH |
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| 18:05.35 | Half-Left | annma: I think he should be pointing to /usr area rather than his own build directory, is that right because it's not picking up his libs |
| 18:05.53 | Budd_ | Ok, thax! |
| 18:06.01 | Half-Left | Thats what I was thinking before |
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| 18:07.19 | matiit | annma: http://nopaste.com/p/avuu6GPc9 and does not work |
| 18:07.26 | annma | wait wait wait |
| 18:07.32 | annma | what are you doing exactly? |
| 18:07.39 | annma | compiling KDE? |
| 18:08.19 | matiit | annma: kdesupport |
| 18:08.26 | Half-Left | yep, his compile is not picking up qt-dbus |
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| 18:09.55 | annma | where is your Qt installed then matiit |
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| 18:11.00 | matiit | annma: by portage somwhere in /usr, by me in /home/kde |
| 18:11.19 | matiit | annma: exactly in /home/kde-devel/qt-copy |
| 18:11.20 | annma | why do you have 2??? |
| 18:11.42 | annma | why do you then export /home/kde-devel/kde/src/qt-copy/bin/ |
| 18:12.01 | annma | what is th eportage version? |
| 18:12.04 | matiit | annma: because it did not found qt4dbus/// |
| 18:12.07 | matiit | 4.4 |
| 18:12.08 | Half-Left | He's pointed it into his /home directory of qt-copy in his bashrc rather than /usr where it really is |
| 18:12.29 | annma | matiit: stick with portage and ask in #gentoo-kde |
| 18:12.34 | annma | use ebuilods |
| 18:12.36 | annma | use ebuilds |
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| 18:12.57 | annma | if it did not find qt4dbus there might be sevral reasons |
| 18:12.58 | matiit | annma: there is no svn |
| 18:13.04 | annma | there is |
| 18:13.08 | annma | why do you need svn? |
| 18:13.33 | matiit | annma: i like... i compiled it few times and it worked... |
| 18:14.32 | annma | really |
| 18:14.37 | matiit | annma: tell me what should QTDIR and PATH be... i will set it night... |
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| 18:14.54 | annma | I told you but you do not know what you are doing |
| 18:14.57 | Half-Left | like I said :p |
| 18:15.12 | annma | export PATH=/path/to/installed/qt/bin:$PATH |
| 18:15.27 | annma | matiit: look at that and think |
| 18:15.41 | matiit | ok |
| 18:15.45 | annma | I cannot tell you the exact dir as I don't build on your machine |
| 18:16.06 | annma | so either you know where you installed qt-copy and you set this |
| 18:16.12 | Half-Left | in /usr like I said |
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| 18:16.17 | annma | or you don't and you use gentoo overlay |
| 18:16.23 | matiit | export PATH=/home/kde-devel/qt-copy/bin/:$PATH |
| 18:16.25 | annma | Half-Left: nope |
| 18:16.35 | annma | matiit: do not pollute the channel |
| 18:16.53 | annma | read techbase.kde.org page about KDE4 build |
| 18:17.46 | Half-Left | annma: Why if he's defined it in his bashrc would it not fine qt-dbus? |
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| 18:17.59 | matiit | annma: look http://nopaste.com/p/aLEEemkYo |
| 18:18.06 | annma | Half-Left: because his qt isnot in /usr |
| 18:18.17 | Half-Left | it is, he showed me |
| 18:18.43 | annma | Half-Left: then he nbuilt his damn gentoo qt without dbus!!! |
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| 18:18.48 | annma | this is gentoo stuff |
| 18:18.52 | annma | anything can happen |
| 18:18.55 | Half-Left | yer, thats what I said |
| 18:19.03 | Half-Left | :) |
| 18:19.07 | annma | so if he has qt-copy why not use it? |
| 18:19.15 | matiit | annma: I use! |
| 18:19.17 | root | Hi |
| 18:19.18 | matiit | now |
| 18:19.35 | Guest31542 | hi every one |
| 18:19.44 | Half-Left | He is and has it defined but it's not seing the libs, they are in /usr/lib/qt4 |
| 18:20.03 | annma | matiit: which moc |
| 18:20.12 | annma | type that in konsole and paste output |
| 18:20.17 | Half-Left | it's like me asking about compiling qt-copy but use your own version |
| 18:20.44 | annma | matiit: so? |
| 18:20.53 | matiit | annma: /home/kde-devel/qt-copy/bin/moc |
| 18:21.24 | matiit | and i have /home/kde-devel/qt-copy/bin in patch |
| 18:21.27 | matiit | path* |
| 18:21.44 | annma | moc -v |
| 18:21.53 | matiit | Qt Meta Object Compiler version 59 (Qt 4.4.0) |
| 18:22.20 | annma | how did yu compile qt-copy? |
| 18:23.07 | matiit | annma: annma http://techbase.kde.org/Getting_Started/Build/KDE4/Prerequisites |
| 18:24.35 | annma | did you copy QT copy readme configure flags? |
| 18:25.05 | matiit | annma: i only make install |
| 18:25.12 | matiit | I have to go for match |
| 18:25.16 | matiit | i will be later |
| 18:25.16 | matiit | bb |
| 18:25.36 | annma | so rebuild qt-copy following the README-qt.copy |
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| 18:25.44 | annma | and I said configure |
| 18:25.51 | annma | not make |
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| 18:56.28 | sigma_12 | anyone figured out how to make openoffice kde4 native yet? |
| 18:57.47 | picca | sigma_12: as in the file open dialog |
| 18:58.11 | sigma_12 | yeah and the icons |
| 18:59.04 | sigma_12 | it just looks so out of place when i run it under kde4 |
| 18:59.12 | picca | i think you can click on Tools->Options->OpenOffice.org->General |
| 18:59.23 | picca | then there is a check box for kde file open dialog |
| 18:59.26 | picca | working from memory here |
| 19:00.06 | Danmer | rebuilt openoffice without kde support |
| 19:00.18 | Half-Left | Germany Vs Spain, back later |
| 19:00.34 | picca | i remember there is also an export variable to make it use KDE/QT |
| 19:01.05 | sigma_12 | picca: wont that just use the kde3 file dialog and not the kde4 one? |
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| 19:01.32 | picca | ah sorry didn't spot the 4 |
| 19:01.37 | picca | :( |
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| 21:09.20 | visik7 | hi |
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| 21:09.55 | visik7 | why kdesvn-build continue to print out svn: No such revision <some_number> |
| 21:14.16 | pinotree | anonsvn is not perfectly synchronized with the authenticated svn server |
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| 21:15.00 | visik7 | and another question |
| 21:15.07 | visik7 | how can I build extragear from kdesvn-build |
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| 21:15.12 | visik7 | if I run something like |
| 21:15.13 | visik7 | : |
| 21:15.52 | visik7 | kdesvn-build extragear/multimedia/amarok/ it complains |
| 21:16.03 | visik7 | priniting out that doesn't exists |
| 21:16.50 | sjraarke | Hi all |
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| 21:17.53 | sjraarke | I just tried to add some plasmoids from the internet "Get hot new stuff" and on trying to install it fails because of a zip-file error (unexpected end of file) |
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| 21:36.11 | visik7 | is kdesvn-build usable for extragears ? |
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| 21:51.54 | Half-Left | Oo, some kde beakage in trunk tonight |
| 21:52.01 | Half-Left | kdegames* |
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| 22:06.50 | firephoto | was the option to set the background color with folderview something that wasn't meant to be there? as seen here... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r20534593-KDE-41-Beta1- with what I built a month ago |
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| 22:12.54 | Half-Left | firephoto: Things change :p |
| 22:13.24 | firephoto | i guess i caught something that slipped in and out at the time. ;) |
| 22:13.56 | Half-Left | maybe, it happens |
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| 22:14.42 | Half-Left | But I dont see what background your on about |
| 22:15.15 | firephoto | Right now it just uses a somewhat opaque background. then it had an option to pick a color or maybe just make it transparent. |
| 22:15.41 | Half-Left | Never seen that option |
| 22:15.49 | firephoto | so i could randomly have a bunch of folderview widgets around with no borders showing. |
| 22:16.41 | firephoto | http://www.dslreports.com/r0/download/1310515~30b2f4d56576c7d1d5a0bd203383b968/snapshot12.png this was possible. |
| 22:16.43 | Half-Left | Well Folder View has had alot of heavy developement |
| 22:17.13 | firephoto | not really worried since i don't do icons on my desktop. just surprised the option was there one day and then gone next time i noticed. ;) |
| 22:17.31 | Half-Left | firephoto: I think that was before the idea of containers came along |
| 22:19.08 | Half-Left | In my view they look much better now with the nice text on the top showing where your looking |
| 22:19.56 | firephoto | i agree that looks better. i just like the option to make the background go away. it's kind of a background on a background going on . |
| 22:20.41 | Half-Left | yer but then you may as well do anyway with folder view all together |
| 22:21.04 | firephoto | that doesn't make sense. or you're not getting what i'm saying. |
| 22:21.14 | Half-Left | It's the containers that set it apart from the normal desktop view |
| 22:21.35 | firephoto | folderview doesn't need the fade to gray background to work. it's just some invisible things holding icons of files next to each other. ;) |
| 22:22.05 | firephoto | but when in use they are part of the desktop (view) |
| 22:22.44 | Half-Left | Yer which is spooky |
| 22:23.38 | Half-Left | I prefer the way it is now |
| 22:23.40 | firephoto | thinks of it from a kde4 perspecive. not the way other desktops are or used to be. :P |
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| 22:27.22 | visik7 | why I got Error updating extragear/multimedia, removing from list of packages to build. when I run kdesvn-build extragear/multimedia/amarok |
| 22:27.35 | firephoto | it's a tough thing to get perfect anyway because people will want to try to show 500 files in one view. |
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| 22:29.09 | Half-Left | visik7: Sometimes things break, like a compile error, I have two two night |
| 22:29.30 | firephoto | visik7: i built today a while ago without any problems on amarok. |
| 22:29.43 | visik7 | I can't get any helpfull log |
| 22:29.53 | Half-Left | wait for it to be fixed |
| 22:30.15 | Half-Left | firephoto: Well it scrolls now so :p |
| 22:30.52 | visik7 | Half-Left: but Is a kdesvn-build bug or a svn bug ? |
| 22:30.53 | firephoto | Half-Left: i saw that. so i guess the scroll bar need to be attached to something rather than floating in space next to win3.1 mans 500 icons. ;) |
| 22:31.03 | visik7 | I'm using kdesvn-build 1.6.1 |
| 22:31.54 | Half-Left | visik7: It's just a dev bug with the update |
| 22:32.19 | firephoto | visik7: you might need to rm the CMakeCache.txt. i don't see any major changes from a svn up. i don't know kdesvn-build either so what it does specifically. |
| 22:32.34 | Half-Left | amarok and kdegames dont compile at the moment |
| 22:32.55 | pinotree | Half-Left: wrong |
| 22:33.05 | pinotree | both do; what is _your_ problem? |
| 22:33.14 | firephoto | amarok builds fine. now. |
| 22:33.36 | Half-Left | pinotree: about? |
| 22:33.48 | pinotree | <Half-Left> amarok and kdegames dont compile at the moment |
| 22:34.00 | Half-Left | Well they dont for me, error out |
| 22:34.14 | pinotree | and what is the error you get? |
| 22:34.46 | Half-Left | some about kpat, can't remember, building kdepim ATM |
| 22:35.31 | Half-Left | pinotree: It's not big deal, I know it will be fixed on apdate |
| 22:35.35 | Half-Left | update* |
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| 22:37.06 | Half-Left | means dont compile as in make error |
| 22:37.43 | visik7 | svn co svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/trunk/extragear/multimedia/amarok |
| 22:37.43 | visik7 | svn: No such revision 826166 |
| 22:37.58 | pinotree | <pinotree> anonsvn is not perfectly synchronized with the authenticated svn server |
| 22:38.09 | pinotree | visik7: âââââââ |
| 22:38.16 | visik7 | yes got it |
| 22:38.28 | visik7 | it's about 3 hours that I try to check it out |
| 22:38.53 | Half-Left | pinotree: Thats maybe why the make error, is misses a file or files from a svn up? |
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| 22:39.16 | Half-Left | it* |
| 22:39.24 | Nikke | Hey can i see statistics for ktorrent? |
| 22:39.26 | pinotree | Half-Left: random guessing is pointless; if you want help, you need to paste in a pastebin the error log |
| 22:39.44 | Half-Left | Yep, building now |
| 22:40.16 | Half-Left | I dont want help, I just report it |
| 22:41.14 | Half-Left | I knows it's going to be fixed, other may not |
| 22:43.26 | Half-Left | pinotree: http://pastebin.com/m19c964d5 |
| 22:44.06 | pinotree | Half-Left: there's no error in what you pasted |
| 22:44.19 | Half-Left | strange |
| 22:44.25 | pinotree | run `make`, not `make -j<somevalue>` |
| 22:45.53 | Half-Left | How did you know I was using -j ? |
| 22:46.10 | firephoto | pinotree: i get the same issue and my cmake just got updated from the kubuntu beta2 repo so i get nice clean output now with no details. jfyi. |
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| 22:53.31 | Half-Left | pinotree: http://pastebin.com/m40aac2c4 |
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| 22:53.58 | firephoto | Half-Left: http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=162526 where my transparent option came from. i guess i hit the magic hour. heh |
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| 22:54.35 | firephoto | Half-Left: that's the same error i get with just 'make' too. |
| 22:54.52 | Half-Left | yer, no worries |
| 22:56.56 | Half-Left | firephoto: I'm sure other options will follower later in 4.x |
| 22:57.04 | Half-Left | follow* |
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| 22:58.33 | firephoto | i don't really care. i just didn't realize i had caught a change that was so short lived. i could live without a folderview or icons on the desktop. |
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| 22:59.20 | Half-Left | yer, true |
| 22:59.54 | Half-Left | I just use bigger panels for my icons |
| 23:00.56 | Half-Left | I have a nicely layed out 4 panel setup with the panels, it's nice and flexable |
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| 23:02.30 | firephoto | that's a lot of panels. |
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| 23:04.39 | Half-Left | firephoto: http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/9599/desktopvi2.png |
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| 23:29.03 | Thundercloud_ | wtf |
| 23:29.11 | Thundercloud_ | Why does phonon only compile if gstreamer is present? |
| 23:29.13 | Thundercloud_ | That's bullshit |
| 23:30.06 | Half-Left | lol eh? |
| 23:30.37 | Thundercloud_ | I'm trying to compile kde4 trunk |
| 23:30.42 | Thundercloud_ | And it keeps complaining about no phonon |
| 23:30.47 | Thundercloud_ | Which shouldn't happen as I have qt-copy |
| 23:30.52 | Thundercloud_ | So I force enable phonon and it throws a wobbly |
| 23:30.56 | Thundercloud_ | Possibly due to no gstreamer |
| 23:31.01 | Thundercloud_ | As it's the last thing that's mentioned before it errors |
| 23:31.03 | Half-Left | Get it from branchers |
| 23:31.26 | Thundercloud_ | Branchers? |
| 23:31.34 | Half-Left | Yes, it's moved |
| 23:31.45 | Thundercloud_ | Say what? |
| 23:31.52 | Thundercloud_ | So the copy in trunk is what? |
| 23:32.52 | Half-Left | It's a fix until Qt4.4.1 as I remember |
| 23:33.36 | Thundercloud_ | mmm |
| 23:34.49 | Half-Left | You can checkout phonon in branches |
| 23:35.28 | Thundercloud_ | *sigh* |
| 23:36.24 | Thundercloud_ | Sod it i'll get it compiling from trunk |
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| 23:38.14 | Half-Left | Using your distros Qt4.4 makes life easier if it has it |
| 23:38.27 | Thundercloud_ | Not the point, Debian maintains the alphas |
| 23:38.33 | Thundercloud_ | I'm compiling trunk so I can get cutting edge :D |
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| 23:38.43 | Half-Left | has spent to much time here today |
| 23:39.26 | faemir | too * |
| 23:41.23 | Half-Left | Thundercloud_: Phonon has moved out of kdesupport is what I mean |
| 23:41.42 | Thundercloud_ | I've never been getting Phonon from kdesupport |
| 23:41.45 | Thundercloud_ | Always from qt-copy |
| 23:42.28 | Thundercloud_ | ok there we go |
| 23:42.29 | Thundercloud_ | Working now |
| 23:46.28 | Half-Left | Thinking out loud |
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