| 00:00.14 | batcoder-7 | do you guys suggest kde 3 or 4 right now for useage ? |
| 00:00.34 | skreech | batcoder-7: Whicheverone fits you |
| 00:00.38 | jacques__ | Does dolphin4/konqueror4 not watch for new service menus as often as konqueror 3? For my application I am creating service menus on the fly, which worked find on KDE3, but KDE4 seems to check less often? I'm using SUSE11 KDE 4.0.4 in a vm to test. |
| 00:00.44 | batcoder-7 | i mean i dont know |
| 00:00.54 | batcoder-7 | which one is better did they update anything in 4 ? |
| 00:01.24 | skreech | batcoder-7: there are things in KDE4 which aren't in KDE3 |
| 00:01.45 | skreech | there are somethings and applications in KDE3 which are not in KDE4 yet |
| 00:01.51 | batcoder-7 | looks like most of my apps i want are kde 3 to begin with hmm |
| 00:01.57 | skreech | Which everone is more compelling to you please use that one :) |
| 00:02.04 | skreech | batcoder-7: KDE3 then :) |
| 00:03.49 | jacques__ | s/find/fine |
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| 00:18.56 | blauzahl | batcoder-7: it depends on what you want to do |
| 00:19.08 | blauzahl | batcoder-7: you can run 4, and use 3 apps |
| 00:19.24 | blauzahl | my only non-4 app atm is konversation, and will get ported soon |
| 00:19.28 | blauzahl | er |
| 00:19.32 | blauzahl | my only non-4 app atm is konversation, and that will get ported soon |
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| 00:22.30 | batcoder-7 | what distro do you use ? |
| 00:27.13 | blauzahl | if batcoder comes, back, you can say SVN :) |
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| 01:07.46 | Nyle | hello whats up |
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| 01:11.51 | Simkin | <3 kde |
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| 02:11.01 | punto | hey, what's the name of that kde audio server? |
| 02:11.49 | Jucato | aRts? (KDE 3) phonon? (KDE 4) |
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| 02:13.43 | punto | ah.. cool (I was looking for something that started with a K :) |
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| 02:24.44 | punto | I set arts to use oss, but konqueror is still trying to use alsa for audio (through flash) |
| 02:24.51 | punto | is that a different configuration? |
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| 02:25.58 | juliano | punto: why oss? |
| 02:26.29 | ikon | where do i put a bash script to run at boot with root privs? |
| 02:27.58 | punto | juliano: alsa wasn't working right, and I got OSS from 4front and it works |
| 02:28.23 | Jucato | ikon: you'll have to ask your disto about that |
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| 02:28.58 | Jucato | punto: afaik Flash uses a different configuration for sound. it uses ALSA, so you might have to setup ALSA to use OSS, or something like that |
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| 02:37.00 | punto | is it possible to remove a plugin from konqueror? I got swfdec, which should replace flash, but flash seems to override it |
| 02:38.52 | derek_k | punto: look in file associations |
| 02:39.13 | derek_k | punto: search on swf and change the order |
| 02:41.26 | Jucato | not there |
| 02:41.37 | Jucato | Settings -> Configure Konqueror -> Plugins |
| 02:42.08 | punto | I was looking on plugins before, it looks like they're both loaded |
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| 02:42.37 | punto | but I can't remove one or change orders |
| 02:44.31 | derek_k | ahh, yes. that's changed |
| 02:44.47 | punto | I think it's loading it now.. but it doesn't seem to work at all.. |
| 02:45.33 | derek_k | punto:change the order of the locations, then rescan. the order will change in the bottom |
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| 02:46.39 | punto | yeah, I moved it to the bottom, and it looks like it's loading it.. but it looks like the plugin doesn't work at all no konqueror |
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| 02:48.06 | punto | are firefox plugins supposed to work on konqueror? |
| 02:48.43 | Jucato | browser plugins are usually not browser-specific, they're netscape plugins |
| 02:48.49 | derek_k | punto: I think gnash works. I'm not sure if swfdec does |
| 02:48.59 | derek_k | sometimes |
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| 02:49.20 | Jucato | of course, different browsers have varying support for plugins. |
| 02:49.35 | punto | so it also needs that nspluginwrapper thing? |
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| 02:49.42 | axis | yyy |
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| 02:59.13 | fumanchu182 | So has anyone found a way to add an icon to the kde panel? I can't on kde 4 opensuse 11.0 |
| 03:00.11 | fumanchu182 | nevermind |
| 03:00.19 | fumanchu182 | emergency FAQ gives me something to try |
| 03:00.41 | punto | gnash plugin doesn't even show up on the list aparently |
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| 03:47.37 | dspr | anyone know where I could get a copy of kicker and kicker.so from kde 3.5.9 for an x86_64? |
| 03:48.28 | derek_k | dspr: what distro? |
| 03:49.15 | dspr | derek_k: fedora |
| 03:53.52 | dspr | still, i'm not sure just how incompatible binaries from other distros would be.... |
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| 03:57.13 | dspr | I mean ln and ldd could make up for any changed lib paths, and i doubt that unless the binaries come from a gentoo distro, the cflags aren't all too different... |
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| 03:59.07 | dspr | I even have a viable rpm; it's just a matter of extracting it into a subdirectory, instead of /, which I cannot figure out... |
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| 05:07.04 | saeed | Hello all |
| 05:07.25 | saeed | I want to know how to develop C / C ++ Program at KDevelopment tool |
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| 05:07.42 | saeed | I try & code work in TC Edit but not in KDE |
| 05:07.47 | saeed | Why ? |
| 05:08.36 | saeed | Is there any programmer ? |
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| 05:11.00 | oneforall | darn djvulibre keeps want to use checking for Qt root directory... /usr/lib64/qt-3.3.8b instead of /usr/lib64/qt4 |
| 05:11.31 | oneforall | even trying with --with-qt=/usr/lib64/qt4 QTDIR=/usr/lib64/qt4 |
| 05:11.51 | blauzahl | saeed: you want development tools? |
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| 05:15.13 | blauzahl | saeed: KDE uses Qt and C++, but there are bindings in other languages |
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| 05:35.17 | sjraarke | Hi All, anybody here works with the kde-trunk? |
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| 05:52.43 | blauzahl | sjraarke: probably. :) |
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| 05:56.16 | sjraarke | blauzahl : :) I was hoping to get some insight into my svn problems |
| 05:56.41 | Jucato | why not ask the question directly. if anyone around knows, they'll respond |
| 05:56.52 | blauzahl | user or developer? #kde and #kde-devel respectively, and yes, people here use it |
| 05:56.57 | Jucato | much better than asking 2 questions separately and waiting for an answer for each :) |
| 05:57.20 | sjraarke | Does make sense :) |
| 05:57.44 | Jucato | "anyone here" <--- wait for answer ----> "here's the questions" <--- wait for answer -----> :D |
| 05:57.56 | Jucato | "here's the question" <--- wait for answer ---> :P |
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| 05:58.16 | blauzahl | Plus: anyone here? ----> no ---> no answer |
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| 05:58.47 | blauzahl | vs.: anyone here, i need to know X. and ? ---> nobody here, but the log ----> someone comes back and answers ;) |
| 05:59.11 | sjraarke | Okay, here goes. I'm having trouble getting the kde-trunk updated. svn stops, no errors, nothing, just dead. I have to kill konsole, clean whatever of the code I do have and restart. Solutions to this? |
| 06:00.07 | sjraarke | Btw, running on Suse 11, kde 4.1 beta 2 |
| 06:01.04 | Jucato | I've been hearing people having anonsvn problems lately. it's probably just being slow which is why it seems to have died |
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| 06:01.50 | alanhaggai | Hi. How can remote file sharing be done in KDE 4? |
| 06:01.57 | sjraarke | Jucato : It's not that it "seems" to die. It's dead alright. |
| 06:02.29 | Jucato | alanhaggai: how are you sure it's dead? its process is still running right? |
| 06:02.33 | Jucato | er,,. sorry |
| 06:02.38 | Jucato | sjraarke: how are you sure it's dead? its process is still running right? |
| 06:02.43 | Jucato | sorry alanhaggai |
| 06:02.44 | alanhaggai | Jucato: It is okay. |
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| 06:03.12 | sjraarke | Jucato : Nope, nothing running anymore, I can leave it for hours on end and nothing happens anymore |
| 06:03.50 | sjraarke | Jucato : the process doesn;t respond to Ctrl-C or whatever |
| 06:04.09 | Jucato | ah |
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| 06:04.50 | sjraarke | I would call that "dead as a doornail" |
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| 06:07.48 | EnsGabe | Does konqueror (3) restrict Adobe Flash's Express Install by design? I can use a specific website's (hulu.com) flash portion fine in Firefox and epiphany, but not so in Konqueror, even though they all use the same plugin. Is this a bug? |
| 06:08.58 | Jucato | sjraarke: hm.. no idea what's happening then... I'm still guessing it might be due to connection problems with the mirror that anonsvn assigns to you. you're the second person reporting that |
| 06:08.59 | EnsGabe | Flash works fine in general- youtube.com et al work |
| 06:10.27 | sjraarke | Jucato : Wouldn't svn normally time out? I mean, I can understand that the svn-site is too busy but svn should (does) report that? |
| 06:11.18 | Jucato | sjraarke: normally. but anonsvn uses mirrors and doesn't connect directly to the main svn server (which is reserved for those that have svn accounts) |
| 06:11.36 | blauzahl | EnsGabe: that's not a function of the plugin, its a function of the browser |
| 06:12.15 | blauzahl | EnsGabe: file a wishlist item at bugzilla.kde.org, it sounds like a good one |
| 06:12.29 | blauzahl | sjraarke: usually you get odd errors. nothing should hang. |
| 06:12.48 | EnsGabe | blauzahl: Thing is, this used to work |
| 06:13.01 | blauzahl | EnsGabe: oh, it did? |
| 06:13.30 | blauzahl | then file a bug ;) |
| 06:13.44 | EnsGabe | I have a hazy memory of it working a while ago |
| 06:13.48 | EnsGabe | I could be wrong :) |
| 06:14.04 | blauzahl | except if its filed against 3, likely people will not be very interested. it would be nice if you could test it in 4 |
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| 06:14.26 | blauzahl | otherwise, you leave bug triagers to figure it out in 4 ;) |
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| 06:15.18 | sjraarke | Jucato : I had noticed that I'm being rerouted to different mirrors in wireshark, which in itself is not a problem, Would be nice though that it would generate errors |
| 06:15.19 | EnsGabe | Install konq4 now ... |
| 06:15.55 | EnsGabe | I haven't been a happy camper with KDE4 in the past, so hopefully this'll go better |
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| 06:17.19 | EnsGabe | Not that I begrudge it- it just ready yet. No Kontact4, no Amarok2, wonky Plasma bugs, and I was ready to wait :) |
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| 06:17.42 | Dumble | hello world ! |
| 06:17.50 | EnsGabe | *just wasn't ready yet |
| 06:17.52 | sjraarke | EnsGabe : I'm pretty happy with it. (Well except for that one svn thingy) |
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| 06:18.51 | EnsGabe | The kicker was plasma bugs- I was not a fan of the weird stretched battery icons littering my desktop :) |
| 06:19.28 | EnsGabe | It was a 4.0 Beta, so I wasn't expecting much |
| 06:20.19 | blauzahl | heh, you can look for your bug, then decide, then wait for the 4.2 beta :D (i'm figuring you're grabbing the 4.1 beta atm) |
| 06:20.35 | blauzahl | although it might be beta2, not sure what packages actually run these days |
| 06:22.25 | EnsGabe | Hmm ... are kubuntu centric questions friendly here? |
| 06:22.30 | sjraarke | blauzahl : beta 2 |
| 06:22.47 | blauzahl | EnsGabe: #kubuntu is probably more useful |
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| 06:26.29 | supert0nes | or kubuntu-kde4 if they are kde4 questions |
| 06:26.38 | supert0nes | oops #kubuntu-kde4 |
| 06:27.01 | supert0nes | if kde were to make a distro |
| 06:27.03 | EnsGabe | Hmm- fudging it by using only konqueror-kde4 packages doesn't seem to work :) |
| 06:27.05 | supert0nes | what would it be based on |
| 06:27.44 | sjraarke | Okay, now this pisses me off. Been messing with this problem all day today and yesterday and when I finally come here to ask about it, it works :) Ii just finished a full run |
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| 06:28.38 | sjraarke | Damn computers, I should have gone into farming potatoes |
| 06:29.14 | EnsGabe | sjraarke: at least computers don't flood your town every few years |
| 06:29.22 | EnsGabe | At worst it's your room :) |
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| 06:30.11 | sjraarke | EnsGabe : potatoes flood towns? |
| 06:30.20 | sjraarke | nevermind :) |
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| 06:38.13 | EnsGabe | All is well in konq4- no flash problems here! |
| 06:39.13 | blauzahl | :) |
| 06:39.16 | EnsGabe | ... and how can I get konq4 to look in kwallet3 for settings? |
| 06:39.26 | blauzahl | good question... |
| 06:39.44 | blauzahl | kwallet code is getting reworked |
| 06:40.37 | blauzahl | you might find some kwallet bugs in 4 too. |
| 06:41.06 | EnsGabe | alternatively, how to migrate data into kwallet4 would (hopefully) help |
| 06:41.24 | EnsGabe | I'm sitting here useless without it :) |
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| 06:41.50 | blauzahl | yeah. |
| 06:42.04 | blauzahl | annma: is there a way to put kwallet3 stuff into kwallet4 stuff? |
| 06:43.13 | annma | I have no idea |
| 06:43.24 | pedepy3 | seriously who the fuck came up with youtube video responses |
| 06:43.33 | Jucato | blauzahl: try exporting the wallet from kwallet3 then importing or merging them in kwallet4 |
| 06:43.41 | blauzahl | pedepy3: for...? (#kde-chat?) |
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| 06:43.48 | Jucato | pedepy3: language please |
| 06:43.52 | blauzahl | Jucato: really? export? |
| 06:44.06 | Jucato | blauzahl: yeah, if you have kwalletmanager, you can do that |
| 06:44.29 | Jucato | though I'm not sure it will 100% work.. I tried it only once.... |
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| 06:45.02 | annma | yes I was about to ask if kwalletmanager is ported to kde4 |
| 06:45.13 | Jucato | annma: yep yep |
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| 06:45.51 | blauzahl | Jucato: how do you get that? |
| 06:45.58 | blauzahl | is it from somewhere inside konq? |
| 06:46.13 | Jucato | blauzahl: huh? what? |
| 06:46.24 | Jucato | why would it be konq? O.o |
| 06:47.02 | Jucato | kwalletmanager, in kdeutils |
| 06:47.09 | matiit | annma: I have one version f QT ins system and WORKING! :) |
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| 06:47.48 | annma | matiit: great! :) |
| 06:48.01 | blauzahl | Jucato: oh. |
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| 06:48.25 | matiit | annma: and i was able to change some prepend to export :) but it wasn't hard |
| 06:48.37 | annma | :) |
| 06:49.15 | blauzahl | i don't see anything looking like that... |
| 06:50.09 | Jucato | blauzahl: in kwalletmanager, click on the wallet, it will open up the wallet. go to File -> Export |
| 06:51.15 | blauzahl | oh. click on it. |
| 06:51.19 | blauzahl | or i can find that i' |
| 06:51.27 | blauzahl | ve forgotten my wallet password? |
| 06:51.45 | Jucato | hm? |
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| 06:52.02 | Jucato | it will just ask if you want to allow access to that wallet. answer "Allow once"... |
| 06:52.12 | Jucato | if you're not getting that, I'm not sure what you're doing :) |
| 06:52.35 | EnsGabe | Well, it seems I'm a few steps ahead of blauzahl :) Konq4, however, doesn't seem to be looking up data in the wallet |
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| 06:53.10 | blauzahl | did i mention kwallet is under heavy development? |
| 06:53.27 | blauzahl | or soemthing |
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| 07:00.32 | EnsGabe | Ok, got it working |
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| 07:01.48 | EnsGabe | Now, what about a gtk-themer so that pidgin doesn't look all blocky and out of place? I know that kde3 had something along those lines ... |
| 07:02.33 | annma | it's not kde3, it was in kde-look.org |
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| 07:03.21 | EnsGabe | Wherever it was, it came in my distro :) Should I poke around there for a kde4 equivalent? |
| 07:03.48 | annma | yes |
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| 07:08.40 | Jucato | EnsGabe: gtk-qt engine |
| 07:08.56 | Jucato | yes, ask your distro if they have it packaged for kde4/qt4 |
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| 07:14.17 | EnsGabe | Jucato: that did the trick. Thanks |
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| 07:18.07 | EnsGabe | Well, as far as second impressions go, KDE4 is miles better now than 7 months ago :) |
| 07:18.15 | EnsGabe | Check plus |
| 07:18.37 | EnsGabe | Now we play the waiting game for all my favorite apps to make the switch |
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| 07:19.04 | sandsmark | EnsGabe: well, this is a end-user release, at least more than 4.0, the "eat-your-babies"-release =) |
| 07:19.10 | Jucato | (7 months ago, KDE 4 was still in Beta :) |
| 07:19.12 | sandsmark | EnsGabe: what apps are you waiting for =) |
| 07:19.20 | visik7 | 'morning |
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| 07:19.44 | EnsGabe | Amarok and Kontact |
| 07:19.55 | Jucato | hey visik. kdesvn-build --build-system-only seems to do the trick (run cmake/configure only) |
| 07:19.55 | sandsmark | well, kontact is ported |
| 07:19.58 | sandsmark | amarok2 is getting there |
| 07:20.00 | sandsmark | =) |
| 07:20.06 | visik7 | yes also k3b |
| 07:20.21 | Jucato | amarok and k3b are extragear, so don't expect them to follow kde release schedules |
| 07:20.55 | sandsmark | k3b for kde4 compiles and runs, I haven't tried burning anything with it =) |
| 07:20.57 | EnsGabe | sandsmark: is it safe to migrate kontact to kontact4? I don't feel like losing all my e-mail this afternoon :) |
| 07:21.26 | sandsmark | EnsGabe: I use imap, so I didn't have to migrate my mail, but akregator migrated just dandy |
| 07:22.45 | sandsmark | EnsGabe: I would take a backup of the .kde/share/apps/kmail folder first, and then try to just copy everything over =) |
| 07:23.21 | EnsGabe | my distro has .kde and .kde4, so it's just a tarball away from restore |
| 07:23.45 | sandsmark | k |
| 07:24.24 | visik7 | mmm I got a cmake segfault |
| 07:24.25 | visik7 | cool :) |
| 07:24.41 | sjraarke | EnsGabe : I tried using kontact4 and it ported the mails jst fine, but left all the other stuff behind |
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| 07:25.29 | EnsGabe | sjraarke: qualify 'ports'. Is it an automagic process? |
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| 07:25.50 | sjraarke | EnsGabe : It "imports the mails |
| 07:25.53 | J-23 | hmm, Dolphin doesn't run on my computer. It returns http://pastebin.com/d70dd0910 |
| 07:26.09 | EnsGabe | sjraarke: and the filters and folder structure? |
| 07:26.32 | sandsmark | J-23: dolphin: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libnepomuk.so.4: undefined symbol: _ZN7Soprano6Client17LocalSocketClientC1EP7QObject |
| 07:26.42 | sandsmark | J-23: upgrade your nepomuk libraries |
| 07:26.44 | sjraarke | EnsGabe : It imports the folder structure but none of the other info |
| 07:26.46 | J-23 | ok. |
| 07:27.07 | sjraarke | EnsGabe : No Account info, No email addys |
| 07:27.14 | EnsGabe | :/ |
| 07:27.36 | MoDaX | J-23: rebuild kdebase |
| 07:27.40 | EnsGabe | Filters is the real problem |
| 07:27.45 | sandsmark | sjraarke: you can probably export the contacts first, and then import |
| 07:27.59 | J-23 | MoDaX: O_o |
| 07:27.59 | EnsGabe | I'll poke around for export options |
| 07:28.11 | sjraarke | sandsmark : Could be, haven't tried that |
| 07:28.15 | sandsmark | and, there's supposed to be some magic scripts to upgrade stuff |
| 07:29.05 | sjraarke | Currently my biggest dipper is that it doesn't connect to my palm |
| 07:29.11 | J-23 | There is no Nepomuk package in repo which is newer than my. |
| 07:29.20 | sjraarke | So for now I stick to the KDE 3 version |
| 07:29.45 | sandsmark | J-23: which distro? |
| 07:29.57 | J-23 | Fedora 9 with KDE packages from Rawhide. |
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| 07:30.19 | sandsmark | J-23: try asking in #fedora or something =) |
| 07:30.26 | sandsmark | there's something wrong with the packages |
| 07:31.14 | J-23 | I'm banned from #fedora for unaware flood :/ |
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| 07:31.29 | supert0nes | Move 'em on, head 'em up, Head 'em up, move 'em out, Move 'em on, head 'em out Rawhide! |
| 07:31.39 | sjraarke | goes for his beauty sleep, it's 4:30 AM afterall |
| 07:31.41 | sandsmark | J-23: again? |
| 07:32.08 | sandsmark | sjraarke: more like 09:32 |
| 07:32.22 | sjraarke | :) not here |
| 07:32.39 | sandsmark | :p |
| 07:32.53 | J-23 | My IRC client didn't display my message, but it sent it to server. I thunk it didn't send it, so I tried to send it few times. |
| 07:32.58 | sandsmark | well, 04:30 yesterday I had to get up to reboot a server |
| 07:33.04 | J-23 | And somebody classified it as flood and banned me. |
| 07:33.19 | sjraarke | waves buh bey |
| 07:33.23 | sandsmark | J-23: well, just flood bans should be temporary |
| 07:33.28 | sandsmark | waves back |
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| 07:33.41 | J-23 | but I'm still banned :/ |
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| 07:37.46 | sandsmark | J-23: I think you're getting unbanned now, but next time what you type doesn't show up, wait a couple of seconds, it is probably just high latency =) |
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| 07:44.21 | visik7 | cool cmake still segfault |
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| 07:46.55 | matiit | Problem with making kdesupport: http://nopaste.com/p/aOMDybYQk |
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| 07:47.48 | visik7 | matiit: compile fine here |
| 07:48.06 | sandsmark | matiit: install qt, /home/kde-devel/kde/src/kdesupport/akonadi/server/src/akonadi.h:26:34: error: QtNetwork/QLocalServer: No such file or directory |
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| 07:48.10 | sandsmark | or fix your paths |
| 07:49.17 | matiit | sandsmark: because, it search in /usr/qt/include instead of /home/kde-devel/qt-copy/include, what env is respons for that? |
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| 07:49.38 | sandsmark | matiit: try running "export", and look what it spits out |
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| 07:50.23 | matiit | declare -x QTDIR="/home/kde-devel/qt-copy" |
| 07:50.27 | matiit | so it is good |
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| 07:51.09 | sandsmark | but your other paths? |
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| 07:51.53 | matiit | sandsmark: I thin that prepend does not working well |
| 07:52.06 | Guest95244 | hello~~this is my first timt logging in |
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| 07:53.03 | Guest95244 | how to have a ID i am a guest here |
| 07:53.41 | sandsmark | matiit: my profile script that sets paths for me: http://rafb.net/p/K42e5h86.html |
| 07:53.53 | matiit | sandsmark: ok |
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| 07:54.15 | matiit | sandsmark: but you have a QT from system P |
| 07:54.31 | sandsmark | matiit: just change the paths to suit your system |
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| 07:54.44 | sandsmark | Guest95244: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml |
| 07:54.47 | matiit | sandsmark: but QT/... |
| 07:55.09 | Jucato | (btw, it's Qt, not QT :P) |
| 07:55.12 | Jucato | (just nitpicking) |
| 07:55.14 | Guest95244 | why none answser me ~~how can i be a not-guest |
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| 07:55.41 | sandsmark | Guest95244: because this is the wrong channel |
| 07:56.17 | sandsmark | matiit: add the binary directory of Qt to your path |
| 07:56.25 | sandsmark | matiit: but why are you trying to compile KDE? |
| 07:56.32 | Guest95244 | then how to log in the right channel |
| 07:56.50 | sandsmark | Guest95244: it depends on what IRC client you use |
| 07:57.30 | sandsmark | Guest95244: try typing "/join #help", and hit enter |
| 07:57.35 | sandsmark | there you can ask for more help |
| 07:57.38 | Guest95244 | i use the one included in fedora 9 |
| 07:57.40 | Jucato | (actually /join <channel> is universall.. but meh...) |
| 07:57.40 | matiit | sandsmark: ALL is OK, but it search in /usr/include/qt4... I want to it search in /home/kde-devel/qt-copy/include |
| 07:58.29 | sandsmark | matiit: I don't know, it works for me =3 |
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| 07:59.07 | matiit | sandsmark: but what env set is for that? |
| 07:59.08 | matiit | :] |
| 07:59.14 | sandsmark | probably PATH |
| 07:59.32 | sandsmark | matiit: but why don't you use the pre-built packages? |
| 08:00.06 | matiit | prebuild... gentoo |
| 08:00.10 | matiit | ebuilds |
| 08:00.11 | Jucato | matiit: what is the output of "qmake -v" |
| 08:00.32 | matiit | Jucato: good, version in home |
| 08:00.44 | Jucato | scratches head... |
| 08:01.13 | matiit | Jucato: |
| 08:01.15 | matiit | QMake version 2.01a |
| 08:01.15 | matiit | Using Qt version 4.4.0 in /home/kde-devel/qt-copy/lib |
| 08:01.15 | matiit | QMake version 2.01a |
| 08:01.15 | matiit | Using Qt version 4.4.0 in /home/kde-devel/qt-copy/lib |
| 08:01.20 | sandsmark | matiit: why don't you use the overlay with the proper ebuilds? |
| 08:01.24 | matiit | sorry for duble |
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| 08:01.35 | matiit | sandsmark: I want to have it in home |
| 08:01.48 | sandsmark | you can copy it there afterwards =p |
| 08:01.48 | matiit | and aI want to learn something |
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| 08:02.33 | matiit | sandsmark: but it is problem only with env variables... |
| 08:02.40 | matiit | Why it search in /usr... :/ |
| 08:03.30 | sandsmark | because something is broken =D |
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| 08:03.41 | visik7 | anyone on hardy have try make install of kdegraphics ? I got a make segfault |
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| 08:07.42 | annma | paste the full output from make VERBOSE=1 visik7 |
| 08:08.17 | CVirus | How can I force a window to go to a certain desktop as soon as it's launched |
| 08:08.27 | CVirus | I mean like saving some settings for some apps |
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| 08:08.45 | CVirus | for instance .. I want konversation to launch in desktop no. 4 |
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| 08:09.18 | Jucato | CVirus: Alt+F3 or right-click on the title bar -> Advanced -> Special WIndow Settings |
| 08:10.13 | visik7 | annma: yes gimme a sec |
| 08:10.29 | visik7 | annma: but it segfaults the make program |
| 08:10.39 | CVirus | Jucato: thanks salot |
| 08:10.42 | CVirus | alot* |
| 08:10.57 | visik7 | annma: is VERBOSE=1 still relevant ? |
| 08:11.08 | annma | yes |
| 08:11.10 | Jucato | yes |
| 08:11.12 | Jucato | bah :P |
| 08:11.13 | annma | more than ever |
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| 08:13.47 | polineuh | hi everybody kde say could not find kdestartupconfig4 |
| 08:13.53 | polineuh | how to find this script ? |
| 08:13.54 | visik7 | annma: nothing relevant: a lot of -- Up-to-date: /opt/kde4/... finishing with a make: *** [install] Segmentation fault (core dumped) |
| 08:14.01 | annma | polineuh: how did you installkde4? |
| 08:14.04 | Jejem | ;) |
| 08:14.13 | annma | visik7: I need the full output |
| 08:14.35 | annma | core dumped is so 80's!!! |
| 08:15.33 | Jejem | sure annma ;) |
| 08:15.37 | Jejem | like you're 60's ;) |
| 08:15.44 | polineuh | i've build kdelib , kdepimlibs , kdebase and kdebase-workspace |
| 08:15.58 | matiit | what version o cmake is wanted by kde? |
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| 08:16.32 | polineuh | matiit, 2.4.8 |
| 08:16.34 | visik7 | annma: http://rafb.net/p/CZphOK92.html |
| 08:16.53 | annma | polineuh: kdebase and kdebase-workspace??? what is kdebase then? |
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| 08:17.00 | matiit | polineuh: clucene what version? |
| 08:17.23 | polineuh | kdebase-4.0.5 |
| 08:17.37 | polineuh | matiit, have not clucene |
| 08:17.39 | annma | and kdebase-workspace? |
| 08:17.57 | polineuh | kdebase-workspace-4.0.5 for script startkde |
| 08:18.05 | annma | kde builds without clucene |
| 08:18.17 | annma | polineuh: ??? is that a distro then??? |
| 08:18.53 | annma | in KDE, kdebase has everything, workspace, runtime and apps |
| 08:19.05 | polineuh | slackware |
| 08:19.11 | annma | suspects a distro fuckage and tell polineuh to ask them |
| 08:19.17 | visik7 | any clue ? |
| 08:19.34 | annma | visik7: did it build before? |
| 08:19.38 | visik7 | annma: yes |
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| 08:19.51 | visik7 | but it's not a build error |
| 08:19.53 | annma | visik7: did you rm build dir? |
| 08:20.03 | visik7 | almost |
| 08:20.04 | visik7 | .) |
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| 08:20.22 | polineuh | annma, look package http://kde.mirrors.tds.net/pub/kde/stable/4.0.5/src/ |
| 08:20.23 | annma | almost? |
| 08:21.04 | annma | what about runtime then polineuh |
| 08:21.09 | annma | runtime is needed |
| 08:21.32 | polineuh | ok |
| 08:21.38 | polineuh | i've not build runtime |
| 08:21.48 | annma | kdebase-runtime-4.0.5.tar.bz2 <= build it |
| 08:21.50 | polineuh | i try |
| 08:21.56 | annma | weird I thought this was needed |
| 08:22.01 | annma | before workspace |
| 08:22.05 | polineuh | you're my god annma ;) |
| 08:22.19 | visik7 | annma: |
| 08:22.30 | visik7 | ops |
| 08:22.39 | annma | polineuh: your slackware should take care of dependencies, no? |
| 08:22.43 | visik7 | annma: let me cleanup some things |
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| 08:24.06 | jackster | hey can anyone tell me what license the KDE 4 wallpapers are released under? |
| 08:24.15 | annma | not sure how you manage to not build again visik7 |
| 08:24.26 | annma | jackster: look in sources wallpapers |
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| 08:24.48 | visik7 | annma: sorry ? |
| 08:24.57 | jackster | ah I'm not on KDE/Linux at the moment |
| 08:25.05 | annma | jackster: websvn is your friend |
| 08:25.11 | annma | websvn.kde.org |
| 08:25.14 | Jucato | LGPL v3 |
| 08:25.19 | annma | http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/KDE/kdebase/workspace/wallpapers/LICENSE?view=log |
| 08:25.31 | Jucato | at least for those that come by default |
| 08:25.40 | annma | visik7: I build and rebuild everyday without removing build dir and it's all OK |
| 08:25.49 | Jucato | (or cd $KDEDIR/share/wallpapers/ then grep -r GPL *) |
| 08:26.09 | annma | I only remove build dir when I changed some libs to test stuff |
| 08:26.14 | terr_ | !ping |
| 08:26.25 | Jucato | terr_: no bot |
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| 08:27.01 | polineuh | anma yes |
| 08:28.16 | visik7 | annma: anyway removing the build dir had no effect |
| 08:28.19 | visik7 | still segfault |
| 08:28.29 | annma | and the rest? |
| 08:28.35 | visik7 | the rest is ok |
| 08:28.41 | annma | you built it all? |
| 08:28.46 | visik7 | yes |
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| 08:28.50 | annma | why? |
| 08:29.05 | visik7 | why ? |
| 08:29.10 | annma | why do you build it everyday? |
| 08:29.21 | annma | or even several times a day |
| 08:29.26 | visik7 | I rebuild only the changed parts |
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| 08:29.46 | annma | visik7: why is my question |
| 08:30.07 | visik7 | I want to follow the development |
| 08:30.14 | annma | how so? |
| 08:30.47 | annma | do you contribute to it? |
| 08:31.23 | annma | it seems quite a waste to do all this just to "follow development" |
| 08:31.38 | visik7 | :) |
| 08:32.35 | visik7 | indeed it's happen only between sunday and tuesday |
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| 08:33.35 | sandsmark | visik7: what distro do you use? |
| 08:33.40 | visik7 | hardy |
| 08:33.45 | visik7 | ubuntu hardy |
| 08:33.48 | sandsmark | visik7: there are nightly builds of kde |
| 08:33.52 | sandsmark | for kubuntu |
| 08:34.01 | visik7 | I know but I don't care that much |
| 08:34.01 | Jucato | project neon |
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| 08:34.11 | Jucato | (masochist :P) |
| 08:34.15 | visik7 | :) |
| 08:34.15 | sandsmark | :p |
| 08:34.44 | visik7 | I can compile almost all kde including k3b and amarok and digikam (without games and koffice) in about 3 hours |
| 08:34.49 | visik7 | without caches |
| 08:34.56 | annma | visik7: it's a waste of time though |
| 08:35.02 | annma | I maen, for us |
| 08:35.06 | annma | mean |
| 08:35.07 | visik7 | ? |
| 08:35.29 | visik7 | you mean due to the fact that I came here and bother you ? |
| 08:35.32 | annma | it's a waste of time for me to try to fix the problems you have considering this brings nothing to KDE |
| 08:35.42 | visik7 | I got it |
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| 08:36.51 | visik7 | I would just share my problems to know if somebody else got the same on 335 ppl seems that there are only 4/5 active users in this channel |
| 08:37.06 | visik7 | anyway I don't bother you more than once a week I promise :) |
| 08:37.11 | sandsmark | :p |
| 08:37.44 | sandsmark | visik7: I don't have a problem with it, but I haven't heard about anyone else having your problem =) |
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| 08:44.50 | maduser | bla |
| 08:45.47 | sandsmark | meh... |
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| 08:46.17 | annma | if you have a core analyze it visik7 |
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| 08:47.39 | CVirus | isn't there anyway that I could assign a shortcut to switch to a certain desktop ? |
| 08:48.09 | annma | it's ctrl-Fn by default |
| 08:48.18 | annma | n being the desktop number |
| 08:48.33 | CVirus | that's the default in Enlightenment .. but not KDE |
| 08:48.35 | CVirus | :-) |
| 08:48.44 | annma | no? |
| 08:48.52 | CVirus | yes |
| 08:48.54 | annma | that's what I have though and I run defaults |
| 08:49.02 | CVirus | errr |
| 08:49.03 | annma | what kde version? |
| 08:49.07 | CVirus | ctrl .. I thought it was alt |
| 08:49.09 | CVirus | sorry :-D |
| 08:49.37 | CVirus | okay .. how can I change it |
| 08:49.38 | sandsmark | that would be stupid, alt+f2 maps to the run dialog in pretty much anything I've used :p |
| 08:49.54 | annma | what kde version? |
| 08:49.56 | sandsmark | CVirus: kde 3 or 4? |
| 08:49.59 | CVirus | 3 |
| 08:49.59 | annma | CVirus: |
| 08:50.06 | annma | kcontrol then |
| 08:50.15 | CVirus | it's not there |
| 08:50.15 | sandsmark | CVirus: kubuntu? |
| 08:50.27 | annma | damn distros |
| 08:50.31 | sandsmark | system settings -> search for shortcut |
| 08:50.33 | CVirus | gentoo |
| 08:50.44 | CVirus | i mean it's not in the keyboard shortcuts |
| 08:51.09 | sandsmark | it is here, in the KWin component |
| 08:52.16 | CVirus | in the shortcut schemes ? |
| 08:52.48 | CVirus | ah .. it's in the shortcut sequences |
| 08:53.02 | annma | yes, tab 2 |
| 08:53.03 | CVirus | thanks alot |
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| 08:53.27 | sandsmark | meh, just when I had started kcontrol from kde 3 and found it =/ |
| 08:53.28 | sandsmark | =p |
| 08:53.35 | Jejem | lol |
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| 08:54.17 | annma | I had trouble as I have it in French and it sucks |
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| 08:55.36 | sandsmark | ;) |
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| 09:09.08 | _Shade_ | hey |
| 09:09.47 | _Shade_ | how can i add a google search box near to the address one in konqueror? |
| 09:10.02 | sandsmark | you need the extra plugins |
| 09:10.07 | sandsmark | what distro? |
| 09:10.14 | Jucato | _Shade_: konq-plugins. ask your distro |
| 09:10.22 | _Shade_ | archlinux |
| 09:10.25 | Jucato | then Settings -> COnfigure Extensions -> Search bar |
| 09:10.26 | Jucato | ugh!! |
| 09:10.27 | sandsmark | kdemod? |
| 09:10.28 | Jucato | nvm... |
| 09:10.31 | sandsmark | :p |
| 09:10.33 | Jucato | turns around |
| 09:10.41 | blauzahl | _Shade_: btw, do you know about gg: ? |
| 09:10.46 | sandsmark | gives Jucato a cookie |
| 09:10.53 | _Shade_ | sandsmark: yeah kdemod |
| 09:10.55 | Jucato | (who needs search boxes...) |
| 09:11.01 | sandsmark | _Shade_: 4 or 3? =) |
| 09:11.06 | tictric | _Shade_: of course you can just type "gg: searchword" |
| 09:11.12 | Jucato | munches happily untill he sees the large A on the cookie |
| 09:11.15 | Jucato | pukes |
| 09:11.23 | Jucato | munches again |
| 09:11.33 | _Shade_ | blauzahl: yes i knoiw it would search for google entries but i prefer a separate search box |
| 09:11.37 | blauzahl | wp: thing-you-want-to-look-up-in-wikipedia <---other very useful urlbar shortcut |
| 09:11.45 | _Shade_ | sandsmark: 3 |
| 09:11.48 | blauzahl | ah. then yeah, its an option somewhere |
| 09:12.03 | sandsmark | _Shade_: then do as Jucato said =) |
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| 09:39.41 | mschulz | Hello folks. Some components of KDE4 on opensuse11, like eg. the Okular, do not like my HPLaserJet printer. They put "Print to PDF file" as printer's description and really do it. Printing ends with a PDF file in my home directory. How can I solve this issue? |
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| 09:40.52 | Jucato | mschulz: try to ask in #opensuse how to setup your printer. Print to PDF is a KDE feature (a pseudo-printer, so to speak) |
| 09:41.12 | MoDaX | mschulz: http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=162793 |
| 09:41.21 | flyingparchment | do i need aKode 1.1 or 2.0 for KDE 3.5.9? |
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| 09:41.40 | mschulz | Jucato: my printers are configured properly. I may use them perfectly with all non-kde4 apps |
| 09:42.12 | jazka | mschulz: same here, on Gentoo, with okular, but for example Kwrite is fine |
| 09:42.15 | Jucato | flyingparchment: only for Juk I think |
| 09:42.18 | mschulz | MoDaX: that's it! thanks for the hint |
| 09:42.23 | MoDaX | mschulz, jazka: it is Qt 4.4 bug |
| 09:42.24 | flyingparchment | Jucato: i mean, which one :) |
| 09:42.28 | flyingparchment | or will either work? |
| 09:42.39 | Jucato | aaah |
| 09:42.44 | jazka | MoDaX: I see |
| 09:42.45 | Jucato | that I don't know... |
| 09:43.15 | mschulz | MoDaX: I see it now. |
| 09:44.28 | MoDaX | mschulz: if you add 3 dummy printers after your real one, you'll be able to print |
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| 09:45.58 | jazka | MoDaX: do you happen to know if it's fixed in the latest Qt snapshots? |
| 09:46.33 | MoDaX | jazka: don't know for sure |
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| 10:04.18 | simi | hi, i aam running kde4.1 beta2 on kubuntu hardy and the shortcuts key alt+tab and alt+f4 are not working, alt+f2 is working. i do not have installed any localizations |
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| 10:08.06 | polineuh | could not start kstartupconfig |
| 10:08.12 | polineuh | when i launch kde |
| 10:15.22 | fishsponge_ | hey people - i'm in kde4 on opensuse 11.0 and my shift and ctrl keys have stopped working - am i really going to have to close everything and restart x |
| 10:15.36 | fishsponge_ | or is there something else i can do to kick it back into life/ |
| 10:18.46 | visik7 | ok the crashdump is due to rpath funciton in cmake 2.6 using cmake 2.4 all is fine, what version of cmake do you use ? |
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| 10:45.18 | polineuh_ | j #kde |
| 10:45.22 | polineuh_ | hi everybody |
| 10:46.01 | polineuh_ | when i launch startkde , it say Could not start DBUS |
| 10:47.52 | sandsmark | install dbus |
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| 10:48.41 | polineuh_ | sandsmark, dbus is installed |
| 10:48.51 | polineuh_ | and qt is build with dbus option |
| 10:48.56 | sandsmark | <PROTECTED> |
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| 10:50.45 | tuxick | bah, konqueror in lagmode again |
| 10:50.58 | tuxick | takes the "Location" input a minute to respond |
| 10:51.04 | polineuh_ | sandsmark, it rc.messagebus on slackware |
| 10:51.07 | tuxick | wish i knew what to look for |
| 10:51.24 | tuxick | this has been happening for way over a year |
| 10:51.39 | sandsmark | tuxick: it was like that for me too |
| 10:51.49 | sandsmark | until I upgraded to the latest snapshot (.84) |
| 10:51.57 | sandsmark | polineuh_: oh, I use arch |
| 10:52.09 | sandsmark | polineuh_: does it work now? |
| 10:52.24 | polineuh_ | no |
| 10:52.28 | polineuh_ | dbus start |
| 10:52.39 | polineuh_ | but kde doesn't found dbus |
| 10:52.57 | tuxick | ah it's different this time |
| 10:53.05 | tuxick | now entire konq lags, including window redraws |
| 10:53.28 | sandsmark | =/ |
| 10:53.37 | sandsmark | tuxick: what kind of graphics card? |
| 10:54.01 | tuxick | sandsmark: some ati crap, but this lag is WAY worse than the slowness caused by crappy ati driver |
| 10:54.14 | sandsmark | weird... |
| 10:54.24 | tuxick | it "just happens" to konquerer every now and then |
| 10:54.26 | tuxick | for years |
| 10:54.36 | tuxick | looks for the 'windows emulation' checkbox |
| 10:54.48 | sandsmark | I've never experienced that... |
| 10:54.53 | tuxick | probably some funky javascript on a site or something |
| 10:55.10 | tuxick | yesterday i noticed it was affecting kmail as well |
| 10:55.17 | sandsmark | flasH? |
| 10:55.18 | tuxick | when trying to paste a line into a mail |
| 10:55.20 | tuxick | nopes |
| 10:55.38 | tuxick | maybe that clipboard wossname thing |
| 10:55.50 | tuxick | it's not system load/swap anyway |
| 10:56.57 | tuxick | bah |
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| 11:05.33 | Deborah | hello guys |
| 11:06.03 | Deborah | where is the qt irc channel, pleasE? |
| 11:06.55 | Deborah | i'm looking for standard .ui templates produced with Qt Designer |
| 11:07.18 | pinotree | #qt ? |
| 11:07.38 | Deborah | thank you :) |
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| 11:30.47 | ircMonkey | hi |
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| 11:31.53 | ircMonkey | is the number of file preview for one directory limited by some number? |
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| 11:40.34 | annma | any people using KUbuntu beta 2 here please? I'd like to know if I can see the content of a package online, #kubuntu is not answering as usual |
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| 11:42.01 | jpds | annma: well I'd recommend packages.ubuntu.com for package contents.. but it's down. |
| 11:42.27 | ircMonkey | debian package? |
| 11:42.47 | annma | no idea, it's for checking something a user reported to me about one of my apps |
| 11:43.22 | annma | kapptemplate-kde4 from kubuntu, that's all I know |
| 11:43.47 | annma | there are several templates missing so I would need to check what is inside this .deb |
| 11:44.44 | jpds | annma: This is what I have on Hardy: http://pastebin.com/f295df597 |
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| 11:45.18 | ircMonkey | annma: dpkg-query actions; -L, --listfiles package-name... |
| 11:46.06 | annma | ircMonkey: I don't have KUbunut |
| 11:46.17 | annma | ircMonkey: a user wrote me about this app |
| 11:46.22 | annma | which is my app |
| 11:46.28 | sandsmark | annma: you can open it in ark |
| 11:46.33 | annma | jpds: is it with 4.1 beta2? |
| 11:46.37 | sandsmark | .debs are usually just tar.gz's with funky names |
| 11:46.59 | annma | sandsmark: I would if I know the repo |
| 11:47.16 | annma | <PROTECTED> |
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| 11:47.16 | sandsmark | http://no.archive.ubuntu.com/ is hosted by a friend of mine =) |
| 11:47.27 | sandsmark | packages.ubuntu.com and packages.debian.org shows the contents of packages |
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| 11:47.44 | tictric | funky!!! rofl |
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| 11:48.10 | jpds | annma: Hmm, no kapptemplate-kde4_4.0.3-0ubuntu4_all.deb, sorry |
| 11:48.31 | jpds | ircMonkey: Yuo may want to check out "apt-file": http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/Apt-file |
| 11:48.36 | annma | 4.1 beta2 he said |
| 11:48.48 | annma | which is more recent than 4.0.3 |
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| 12:14.41 | fishsponge_ | hey people - i'm in kde4 on opensuse 11.0 and my shift and ctrl keys have stopped working - am i really going to have to close everything and restart x |
| 12:14.41 | fishsponge_ | or is there something else i can do to kick it back into life/ |
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| 12:21.00 | Yagami | i was wondering ,if it would be possible to change the wallpaper and widgets window type |
| 12:21.56 | Half-Left | Yagami: I dont get you, explain more |
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| 12:24.05 | Half-Left | hmmm, seems to be a bug with the Desktop Settings, Shows slideshow mode but still says 'Image' for the wallpapers |
| 12:24.19 | Yagami | Half-Left: well , with compiz as window manager , one could easelly set the widgets into widget layer and get maxosx functionality |
| 12:24.26 | annma | Half-Left: I just saw that right now |
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| 12:24.41 | annma | I could not reproduce though ;) |
| 12:24.54 | Yagami | if you switch between image and presentation , it works around the bug |
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| 12:24.55 | Half-Left | Yagami: Compiz screws that up of course |
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| 12:25.06 | Half-Left | annma: Bug report time :p |
| 12:25.14 | Yagami | Half-Left: the problem is that there is no way to diferentiate the widgets from the wallpaper |
| 12:25.17 | annma | Half-Left: hmm code looking time maybe |
| 12:25.28 | Half-Left | hehe yer |
| 12:25.28 | annma | Half-Left: it should not be a big thing |
| 12:26.37 | annma | Half-Left: can you tell since when there's this bug? |
| 12:27.00 | Half-Left | annma: You know about composite is broken in kwin effects as well? |
| 12:27.28 | annma | kwin is not plasma |
| 12:27.34 | annma | I don't do kwin |
| 12:27.43 | Half-Left | ahh, yer you plasma girl :) |
| 12:27.48 | herlimenezes | hello world |
| 12:27.52 | annma | my effects work but I have few |
| 12:28.00 | herlimenezes | does anybody know how to manage dcop? |
| 12:28.11 | herlimenezes | im using KDE4.0.5 under FC9 |
| 12:28.14 | Half-Left | I just get black screen, i'm sure it will be fixed |
| 12:28.15 | annma | fpr teh desktop settings, do yo uremember when it worked last time Half-Left? |
| 12:28.25 | annma | Half-Left: no dcop in kde4 |
| 12:28.32 | annma | herlimenezes: no dcop in KDE 4µ |
| 12:28.37 | Half-Left | annma: Yer I know, dbus |
| 12:28.38 | annma | herlimenezes: dbus |
| 12:28.44 | Half-Left | :p |
| 12:28.46 | annma | Half-Left: wrong completion |
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| 12:28.51 | herlimenezes | Ok, how can i manage dbus? |
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| 12:29.01 | Half-Left | annma: hmmm, maybe two nights ago |
| 12:29.40 | herlimenezes | I got some messages from phonon about dcop, so I could not undertand...:-( |
| 12:29.45 | herlimenezes | *understand |
| 12:30.23 | herlimenezes | by the way, what is phonon? |
| 12:30.30 | annma | Half-Left: OK I am on it |
| 12:30.39 | herlimenezes | it sends messages about my sound card |
| 12:30.40 | annma | I see what it is Half-Left |
| 12:30.54 | annma | herlimenezes: you have a mix of kde3 and KDE 4 then |
| 12:31.08 | annma | what is the message and what is the problem herlimenezes |
| 12:31.10 | herlimenezes | but i can hear systems sounds and audio normally |
| 12:31.22 | herlimenezes | let me see: |
| 12:31.59 | annma | Half-Left: OOOPS *I* broke it!!!! |
| 12:32.18 | annma | slaps herself and throws designer to the trashbin |
| 12:32.57 | herlimenezes | cant reproduce message, it happens just after log in. |
| 12:33.53 | Half-Left | annma: tut,tut |
| 12:33.59 | Half-Left | :) |
| 12:34.00 | herlimenezes | by the way, how can i get log files saved to a txt file? just piping? |
| 12:34.19 | herlimenezes | when I try, even as supervisor, i have access denied... |
| 12:34.43 | annma | what log file herlimenezes |
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| 12:35.00 | annma | <CIA-9> annma * r827208 workspace/trunk/KDE/kdebase/workspace/plasma/containments/desktop/BackgroundDialog.ui: fix what I broke 2 days ago by editing the dialog and not minding the index. Thanks Half-Left for noticing! |
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| 12:35.10 | herlimenezes | system log: /var/log/messages |
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| 12:38.37 | Half-Left | annma: If you need any bug testing, or just testing let me know, I can do it between artwork so |
| 12:39.13 | annma | thanks Half-Left, reporting those regressions is always nice |
| 12:39.58 | herlimenezes | ok, folks, gtg. See u later! |
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| 12:43.46 | Yagami | hum... compiz with kde4 and widget mode almost works |
| 12:43.48 | Yagami | changing widget mode is very slow on redraw , so it sucks a little |
| 12:43.50 | Yagami | but it works |
| 12:44.00 | Yagami | its always the damn systray plasmoid |
| 12:44.05 | annma | why do you use compiz |
| 12:44.12 | Yagami | ( takes almost 2 seconds to be redrawn ) |
| 12:44.18 | Yagami | annma: i dont , i was just trying |
| 12:44.18 | Half-Left | Yagami: KDE4 has a dashboard anyway |
| 12:44.24 | Half-Left | 4.1* |
| 12:44.33 | annma | never try compiz |
| 12:44.34 | Yagami | annma: compiz is much smoother than kwin , and has widget hiding mode |
| 12:44.40 | annma | really |
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| 12:44.47 | annma | much smoother in what sense? |
| 12:45.00 | Yagami | since i have a screen full of plasmoids , it would be cool to be able to show/hide them |
| 12:45.14 | Yagami | annma: the effects , windows appearing , moving them , etc |
| 12:45.15 | sandsmark | Yagami: press ctrl+f12 with kwin |
| 12:45.19 | annma | how do you mean? |
| 12:45.22 | Half-Left | Yer but ti dont support XRender as I rememeber, kwin does |
| 12:45.33 | Yagami | sandsmark: that "shows them" , doesnt hide them :) |
| 12:45.48 | sandsmark | Yagami: it both shows and hides them here =) |
| 12:46.01 | annma | first it shows, second it hides |
| 12:46.02 | Yagami | sandsmark: it doesnt hide them here , they are still over the desktop |
| 12:46.03 | sandsmark | press once, they appear, press once more, and they hide =) |
| 12:46.13 | sandsmark | Yagami: with compiz or kwin? |
| 12:46.18 | Yagami | annma: its like compiz is at 60 fps , and kwin is at 20 fps |
| 12:46.24 | Yagami | sandsmark: kwin |
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| 12:46.39 | Yagami | i only tryied compiz in kde4 just now , i only used it with kde3 |
| 12:46.41 | annma | Yagami: for all effects? |
| 12:46.55 | Yagami | annma: basicly , but some are smoother than others |
| 12:47.04 | sandsmark | I think it is because kwin redraws like a game, on every refresh, while compiz doesn't, or something like that |
| 12:47.12 | annma | anyway I don't care about compiz |
| 12:47.24 | annma | is just happy with kwin effects |
| 12:47.27 | Half-Left | Nor should we |
| 12:47.42 | annma | let's make a KWin day |
| 12:47.51 | sandsmark | =) |
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| 12:48.48 | Yagami | i think it would be nice to have compability |
| 12:48.55 | Half-Left | Kwin effects just needs more optimization thats all(and a few bug fixes) |
| 12:48.59 | Yagami | even if its not going to be used |
| 12:49.23 | Yagami | Half-Left: that is not everything |
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| 12:49.27 | Half-Left | Yagami: Ask compiz devs, there the ones who make it more Desktop friendly |
| 12:49.33 | Yagami | users may like compiz more than kwin |
| 12:49.34 | annma | let's just concentrate on making KDE4 and KWin OK first |
| 12:49.46 | annma | I think not |
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| 12:50.00 | Yagami | annma: you think not what ? |
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| 12:50.11 | annma | <Yagami> users may like compiz more than kwin |
| 12:50.11 | Half-Left | It's not KDE friendly at all really, it doesn't even have metacity compatibility |
| 12:50.14 | annma | I think not |
| 12:50.31 | Half-Left | for window placement |
| 12:50.38 | Yagami | annma: why ? |
| 12:50.41 | annma | KWin with have... gasp ... The Cube! |
| 12:50.58 | annma | hears everyone clapping |
| 12:50.59 | Yagami | annma: have you ever used compiz ? |
| 12:51.03 | annma | never |
| 12:51.06 | annma | why would I |
| 12:51.18 | Yagami | Half-Left: compiz is very kde friendly , at least in my usage |
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| 12:51.36 | Yagami | annma: so , how do you know users will or will not like a software you never used ? |
| 12:51.36 | annma | Yagami: KWin has all I need |
| 12:51.54 | ethan961 | compiz seemed smoother on old hardware for me |
| 12:52.01 | annma | bacause compiz was there and they wanted kwin to have it Yagami |
| 12:52.01 | Yagami | annma: i am not saying one is better than other or etc |
| 12:52.11 | Half-Left | Yagami: Why would KDE users use compiz, it's basically metacity and no kwin options at all, it doesn't respect them either |
| 12:52.14 | Yagami | annma: i am just saying that there are alot of users used to how compiz works |
| 12:52.16 | annma | if compiz statisfied them they would have uised it |
| 12:52.28 | annma | instead of asking it for kwin |
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| 12:52.55 | Yagami | annma: compiz satisfies alot of users |
| 12:52.55 | cyber_fusion | Yagami: compiz is severelly limited in window positioning options (Window Behaviour rules) |
| 12:53.16 | cyber_fusion | it's just bling with some usability tricks tacked on |
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| 12:53.20 | ethan961 | I think kde doesnt need extra eyecandy, it works and feels good enough to begin with. Gnome however needs compiz to even be usable :/ |
| 12:53.20 | annma | Yagami: as I said if compositing came in kwin it was because of a big demand |
| 12:53.21 | Yagami | ok , alot of anti compiz ppl here , sorry i said anything |
| 12:53.28 | Half-Left | Yagami: because they see it as effects not a window manager |
| 12:53.30 | fnmueller | /memoserv help |
| 12:53.36 | ethan961 | haha |
| 12:53.37 | cyber_fusion | I like compiz |
| 12:53.59 | Half-Left | yer it's a good short term hack |
| 12:53.59 | cyber_fusion | but kwin has a much better code base (i've only looked at compiz) |
| 12:54.05 | annma | it's not liking or not compiz Yagami |
| 12:54.11 | Yagami | i am not talking about compiz effects ..... compiz has alot of usuability things too !!! |
| 12:54.19 | cyber_fusion | kwin will have them to |
| 12:54.20 | annma | it's "compatibility" as you say |
| 12:54.30 | cyber_fusion | but with a much cleaner codebase |
| 12:54.38 | cyber_fusion | proper plugins |
| 12:54.44 | cyber_fusion | not a core copy paste |
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| 12:55.11 | Half-Left | Yagami: We are not saying it's bad, what we are saying that it's developed and works better in GNOME, it doesn't have a proepr kwin theming systems or respects kwin placements and options |
| 12:55.19 | Yagami | you all make me seem like a gnome user ! :( |
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| 12:56.12 | Yagami | i just had the idea of trying out compiz , because i saw a kde-look screenshot where a user is using compiz |
| 12:56.13 | cyber_fusion | I can't recall all the deps but IIRC compiz pulls on at least gconf |
| 12:56.29 | cyber_fusion | use it |
| 12:56.32 | sandsmark | I don't think compiz needs gconf, but it's the easiest |
| 12:56.44 | cyber_fusion | it's good |
| 12:56.55 | Half-Left | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:57.02 | sandsmark | Yagami: I like compiz too, but the opengl-rendering wasn't supported on my intel card =/ |
| 12:57.13 | sandsmark | Half-Left: I think it can use flat-file storage and kconf too |
| 12:57.14 | sandsmark | iirc |
| 12:57.39 | ethan961 | it does |
| 12:57.40 | Half-Left | yer there is a optional package for that |
| 12:57.51 | cyber_fusion | I also have my gripes with accel kwin (I have a Nvidia, but it flew with compiz) some window operations like resize are slow |
| 12:57.51 | Yagami | sandsmark: what intel card do you have ? |
| 12:57.59 | Half-Left | and no Xrender support in compiz as I can remember |
| 12:58.03 | ethan961 | flat-file is integrated with main packages |
| 12:58.07 | sandsmark | Yagami: 965, iirc |
| 12:58.11 | sandsmark | I don't have my laptop here |
| 12:58.20 | Yagami | sandsmark: compiz works perfectly here |
| 12:58.30 | sandsmark | Yagami: it might with the new drivers I installed |
| 12:58.34 | Half-Left | Ofcourse it does |
| 12:58.37 | sandsmark | it used to crash with pretty much anything opengl |
| 12:58.44 | Half-Left | But you missing the point |
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| 12:59.15 | Yagami | sandsmark: very weird ... if you set your intel card to accell with "exa" , you can even see movies |
| 12:59.30 | Half-Left | Yagami: It doesn't theme with oxygen right, you have emeral or metacity theme in KDE |
| 12:59.40 | Half-Left | emerald* |
| 13:00.08 | Yagami | Half-Left: i will just say that i dont like oxygen theme , its completly buggy |
| 13:00.20 | Half-Left | buggy in what way? |
| 13:00.26 | sandsmark | Yagami: I might try it again, but then I have to install compiz, and I'd rather get kwin working properly =) |
| 13:00.31 | Yagami | Half-Left: it was pretty at first , but now its ugly |
| 13:00.43 | Yagami | sandsmark: kwin also works properly |
| 13:00.45 | Half-Left | Well thats your view |
| 13:01.01 | Yagami | Half-Left: no , the buttons are too big , they get out of the titlebar |
| 13:01.11 | Half-Left | I guess your using 4.0 then |
| 13:01.20 | Yagami | Half-Left: nop , kde 4.1 |
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| 13:01.30 | sandsmark | Yagami: then it's probably compiz that's borked |
| 13:01.32 | Half-Left | How are the buttons to big? |
| 13:01.54 | Yagami | Half-Left: they are too big , that they overlat the titlebar little bar below |
| 13:02.23 | Half-Left | I dont see that, screenshot? |
| 13:02.24 | sandsmark | not here |
| 13:02.38 | Yagami | anyway , one thing that i will always miss from compiz is the multi desktop things , not just multi viewports |
| 13:02.42 | Half-Left | What beta you using? |
| 13:02.57 | Yagami | Half-Left: always updated packages from opensuse factory :) |
| 13:03.07 | Half-Left | Ahh well there you go |
| 13:03.28 | Half-Left | Thats where your extra bugs come from :p |
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| 13:04.11 | Yagami | Half-Left: oh really .... could you do a screenshot of your desktop please ? |
| 13:04.35 | Half-Left | sure |
| 13:04.55 | Yagami | Half-Left: where are you getting your kde4.1 ? compiled manually from snv ? |
| 13:05.19 | Half-Left | yep |
| 13:05.35 | Yagami | hum ok |
| 13:05.40 | sandsmark | I don't |
| 13:05.44 | sandsmark | and I don't have that bug either |
| 13:05.50 | Yagami | Half-Left: well , please do a screenshot with an active focused window please :) |
| 13:07.08 | sandsmark | Yagami: http://iskrembilen.com/sandsmark/snapshot1.png |
| 13:08.00 | Yagami | damn |
| 13:08.08 | Half-Left | Heres mine http://img29.picoodle.com/img/img29/4/7/2/f_Desktopm_9d28932.png |
| 13:10.05 | Yagami | this is how i get mine : http://img116.imageshack.us/img116/844/kwinlw9.jpg |
| 13:10.35 | Yagami | notice that the question , minimize and mazimize buttons are too big |
| 13:10.41 | Half-Left | Wow, fudgy |
| 13:10.57 | Half-Left | Ours are proper |
| 13:11.10 | Yagami | fudgy ? what does that mean :) |
| 13:11.31 | sandsmark | are you using compiz? |
| 13:11.37 | Yagami | sandsmark: no ! |
| 13:11.43 | sandsmark | just wondering =) |
| 13:11.46 | annma | ;) |
| 13:11.49 | Half-Left | Yagami: Horrid |
| 13:12.07 | Yagami | the buttons or the whole desktop ? |
| 13:12.37 | Half-Left | the buttons |
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| 13:12.49 | Yagami | well , i will try to remove all kde configuration and try again |
| 13:12.52 | Yagami | brb |
| 13:14.38 | Half-Left | I'm not going to touch Opensuse, looks broken :p |
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| 13:14.57 | Half-Left | Used to like it but it's gone down hill in my view |
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| 13:19.18 | Yagami | hum... even on a clean configuration it still does it |
| 13:19.53 | Half-Left | well there packages are buggy maybe so, they setup KDE4 differently |
| 13:20.16 | Yagami | Half-Left: and if you zoom it , Half-Left you have that problem too |
| 13:20.32 | Yagami | Half-Left: at least i just double check your screenshot and its there |
| 13:20.40 | Half-Left | zoom? |
| 13:20.52 | Yagami | Half-Left: the problem is that i use "whiter" colors , and its harder to see it with oxygen colors |
| 13:21.11 | Yagami | Half-Left: yes , just zoom up to 500 % your screenshot , on the buttons |
| 13:21.46 | Half-Left | right and? |
| 13:21.57 | sandsmark | Yagami: I see it on mine too |
| 13:22.12 | Yagami | Half-Left: see how the buttons overlat the little horizontal line bellow the titlebar ? |
| 13:22.35 | Half-Left | Yagami: I see yes |
| 13:22.56 | sandsmark | well, I usually don't zoom to 500% on my desktop, so =p |
| 13:23.05 | Yagami | Half-Left: but because i have a window color much whiter than oxygen color , i notice it all the time |
| 13:23.14 | Half-Left | Yagami: I will report this and see what they say |
| 13:23.22 | Yagami | Half-Left: thanks |
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| 13:26.28 | Half-Left | Yagami: Supposed to be fixed now, it's a known bug |
| 13:26.45 | sandsmark | Half-Left: well, I have snapshot .84, and it isn't fixed =3 |
| 13:27.06 | Half-Left | sandsmark: Well they know about it so |
| 13:27.10 | sandsmark | k |
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| 13:29.06 | Yagami | Half-Left: i just updated kde4.1 snapshot today |
| 13:29.50 | sandsmark | ohwaitaminute, it's .83 here... |
| 13:29.54 | Half-Left | Yagami: one guy is one it so it coul;d be fixed anytime |
| 13:29.57 | sandsmark | *slapforehead*, ubuntu... |
| 13:30.02 | Half-Left | on* |
| 13:30.43 | Yagami | mine is 4.0.84 |
| 13:30.55 | Half-Left | Version 4.00.84 (KDE 4.0.84 (KDE 4.1 >= 20080625) |
| 13:32.32 | Half-Left | I had a cmake update just while in the process of building kdebase last night lol |
| 13:32.59 | Yagami | well , all this just because i asked if plasmoids could have a diferent window type than plasma |
| 13:33.40 | annma | in fact all windows can be plasmoids, if you read PlanetDKE |
| 13:33.50 | annma | we aim to a plasma world |
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| 13:33.53 | Yagami | annma: i do , i read that blog |
| 13:33.56 | Half-Left | annma: mplayer one was nice |
| 13:34.01 | annma | yes |
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| 13:34.25 | Yagami | but annma that doesnt invalidate my point |
| 13:34.41 | annma | just to say that we think the reverse Yagami |
| 13:34.42 | Yagami | to X now , the wallpaper and the plasmoids are the "same window" |
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| 13:35.02 | annma | what about containments? |
| 13:35.23 | Yagami | annma: containments already have a diferente window type |
| 13:35.28 | visik7 | which version of cmake do you use guys? |
| 13:35.29 | Yagami | annma: you can see , do a xwininfo |
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| 13:36.55 | Yagami | annma: the panel for example has window type : dock |
| 13:37.09 | Yagami | annma: of course the class is plasma also , but thats ok |
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| 13:37.30 | Yagami | when i mention window type , i mean the name of the window to X , nothing else |
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| 13:38.47 | Yagami | if plasmoids had diferent window type names , i could set some for specific desktops , for example |
| 13:38.55 | annma | plasmoids are not windows |
| 13:38.57 | Yagami | or one to never focus , or etc |
| 13:40.04 | Yagami | ok , i give up |
| 13:40.28 | Half-Left | never give up! |
| 13:40.32 | sandsmark | Yagami: plasmoids are drawn in a qgraphicsview |
| 13:40.47 | sandsmark | which is really just a widget, in a window, if I understand correctly |
| 13:41.58 | BlueDevil | i want to add an additional timezone for the clock to display (US/Central) but it is not present in the list of timezones; i'm using kubuntu 8.04 with kde 3.5.9 |
| 13:42.00 | Yagami | hum , i am just talking about making "kwin rules", not how plasmoids work |
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| 13:44.57 | Yagami | sandsmark: i guess the window is the desktop , and plasmoids are just widgets in there |
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| 13:45.30 | Yagami | sandsmark: i wonder how kwin knows what is the desktop and the plasmoids |
| 13:45.34 | sandsmark | Yagami: yeah, the desktop is called root-window |
| 13:46.06 | sandsmark | you can draw screensavers on the root window =) |
| 13:46.06 | sandsmark | Yagami: I don't know what you mean |
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| 13:46.29 | Yagami | sandsmark: i am just mentioning what i see when i do a kwin rule , and i do a "detect window" |
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| 13:52.28 | BlueDevil | please help |
| 13:53.21 | sandsmark | with what? |
| 13:53.27 | BlueDevil | i want to add an additional timezone for the clock to display (US/Central) but it is not present in the list of timezones; i'm using kubuntu 8.04 with kde 3.5.9 |
| 13:53.47 | sandsmark | why do you want it? |
| 13:53.53 | BlueDevil | huh? |
| 13:54.02 | sandsmark | or, exactly what do you want? |
| 13:54.16 | sandsmark | you want to display several timezones? |
| 13:54.19 | Jucato | BlueDevil: I don't think you can. your best bet would be to use one that's closest to you |
| 13:54.20 | BlueDevil | yes |
| 13:54.22 | sandsmark | or are you trying to create more timezones? |
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| 13:54.35 | Jucato | I think he wants to create a new entry in the list of available timezones |
| 13:54.40 | sandsmark | Jucato: no |
| 13:54.40 | BlueDevil | i'm trying to get the clock to also display the US/Central timezone |
| 13:54.56 | sandsmark | Jucato: you help, I don't have kde 3.5 |
| 13:54.57 | sandsmark | =) |
| 13:55.09 | BlueDevil | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:55.39 | BlueDevil | but it isn't available in the clock's list of timezones |
| 13:56.03 | Jucato | BlueDevil: it is... just use one that is the nearest to that timezone... central like chicago or something |
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| 13:57.28 | BlueDevil | :-/ now i know why i should have learned geography in school |
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| 13:58.35 | BlueDevil | what should i use for san francisco? |
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| 13:59.20 | BlueDevil | i would guess "pacific" but it's not in the list |
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| 14:00.00 | Jucato | California? |
| 14:00.04 | BlueDevil | yes |
| 14:00.33 | Jucato | It's all there. not just exact, specific states or places. but the timezones are represented |
| 14:01.30 | BlueDevil | it doesn't seem to be true in my case |
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| 14:01.46 | BlueDevil | or i can't figure it out |
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| 14:04.13 | Jucato | BlueDevil: I can't really check right now because I'm on KDE 4 and don't have Kicker running.. but iirc I have set all the 4 timezones in the US on my clock |
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| 14:15.25 | simi | hi, i installed kde4.1 beta2 on kubuntu hardy. the alttab and alt+f4 do not work, i need help because the solution i found on google do not fix this |
| 14:15.46 | sandsmark | try #kubuntu |
| 14:16.45 | simi | sandsmark: i posted this question on #kubuntu-kde4 but no answer |
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| 14:19.16 | dereine | is there any way to drag'n drop tasks on the tasklist? |
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| 14:20.08 | simi | jow can i place or move a widget in a panel to an other place??? |
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| 14:22.27 | Half-Left | simi: You can't in the panel at the moment |
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| 14:24.30 | Half-Left | simi: You can drag and drop widgets in new versions of 4.1 and icons but you can to place them where you want them, can't move them after yet |
| 14:24.46 | Half-Left | can't* |
| 14:25.00 | Half-Left | gah |
| 14:25.54 | Jucato | unless you're using Fedora 9 or openSUSE 11.0 |
| 14:26.11 | Jucato | dereine: tasks? as in open visible windows? nope |
| 14:26.37 | Half-Left | Jucato: They wrote that code themselves? |
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| 14:27.10 | dereine | Jucato: its feature of gnome, and its so genious |
| 14:27.17 | Jucato | Half-Left: afaik, opensuse did and fedora borrowed. and afaik, it was not something clean (so got rejected upstrream) |
| 14:27.30 | Jucato | dereine: if you say so :) |
| 14:27.34 | Half-Left | Jucato: Oh what a surprise |
| 14:27.52 | Jucato | Half-Left: anyway, it's moot. the proper implementation is going in 4.1 I think |
| 14:28.01 | Jucato | and *real* drag and drop |
| 14:28.09 | Jucato | (it's not drag n drop in those two btw) |
| 14:28.18 | Half-Left | Jucato: I dont think so, 4.2, we are in freeze |
| 14:28.28 | J-23 | Hello again. What do I need to set up CPU frequency scaling with KPowerSave? |
| 14:28.37 | Jucato | Half-Left: an exception was asked for it |
| 14:29.03 | Half-Left | Jucato: ahhh, it's classed as a bug so I guess it could right? |
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| 14:29.21 | Jucato | Half-Left: don't ask me. but so far no objections :) |
| 14:29.34 | Half-Left | Well that would be cool if they did |
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| 14:29.46 | Half-Left | Stop the moaners anyway :) |
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| 14:30.15 | Half-Left | bah, blah, Windows 95 had this feature |
| 14:32.45 | simi | Half-Left: i want to add the kmenu in the left side of the panel but it appears on the right side(i have kde4.1 beta2), |
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| 14:34.43 | gkiagia | simi: remove it, then drag it from the add widgets dialog to the left side of the panel |
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| 14:46.25 | simi | gkiagia: thx,is there a widget with places?(to acces my partitions home documents) |
| 14:47.00 | gkiagia | simi: no, I don't think there is something like this yet... |
| 14:50.18 | dereine | will there be different widgets on different desktops? |
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| 14:51.12 | Half-Left | dereine: I believe they are figuring that one out |
| 14:51.37 | Half-Left | You mean the pager dont you? |
| 14:51.38 | dereine | thx!cool! |
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| 14:51.54 | dereine | default i have 4 desktops |
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| 14:52.04 | dereine | yes i think thats the pager? |
| 14:52.08 | Jucato | Half-Left: he means different sets of widgets on different virtual desktops |
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| 14:52.59 | dereine | Jucato: thx |
| 14:53.05 | Half-Left | yep |
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| 14:53.30 | Jucato | dereine: best answer: Probably planned for the future :) |
| 14:53.50 | dereine | " It will be done, when its done!" |
| 14:53.57 | Half-Left | dereine: I did ask about that and they were sayign it's something planned and looking at^ |
| 14:54.16 | Jucato | dereine: in this case, it will be written when they get to that part :) |
| 14:54.40 | Half-Left | cool widgets come first damn it :p |
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| 14:59.15 | zlinux_ | hi |
| 14:59.17 | visik7 | annma: I've found the lib that cause kdenetwork to fail building if you are still interestesd |
| 14:59.28 | zlinux_ | is it safe to kill process kde-init, it's taking too much cpu |
| 14:59.30 | zlinux_ | ? |
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| 15:00.11 | flami | Hi , is there supposed to be no fileshare part in the systemsettings in 4.0.84 ? I can only acces them when i set filesharing=no in /etc/security/fileshare.conf and rightclick a directory where it then will ask me to configure filesharing |
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| 15:04.58 | zlinux_ | killed safely :P |
| 15:06.30 | Half-Left | flami: Samba? |
| 15:06.47 | visik7 | annma: and I've found another lib not listed in cmake of kdenetwork |
| 15:07.18 | flami | well samba and NFS |
| 15:07.32 | Half-Left | Samba should be in Advanced |
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| 15:07.45 | flami | no i dont want to configure samba ( ehich is there) |
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| 15:08.15 | Half-Left | looks liek sharing is pretty minimal in there atm |
| 15:08.18 | flami | i want to configure that filesharing part , who is allowed to use the rightclick on a drectory to share etc |
| 15:09.01 | flami | as i said I can acces the GUI config if i manually disable filesharing |
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| 15:10.29 | Half-Left | flami: I think it's just on the right click folder atm, not in systems settings at all yet |
| 15:11.46 | flami | ok :P |
| 15:11.54 | flami | I was just wondering ^^ |
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| 15:13.32 | annma | visik7: which one and where? |
| 15:13.49 | annma | the Xtest one is listed with xorg header |
| 15:13.57 | annma | the Xtest one is listed with xorg headers check |
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| 15:16.04 | visik7 | a friend of mine is compiling kdenetwork and have got the XTest issue and solved installing libxtst-dev but wait a second to give the confirm |
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| 15:17.28 | annma | and cmake said nothing? |
| 15:17.54 | visik7 | annma: no cmake pass everything |
| 15:18.20 | visik7 | the odd thing is that libxsxt-dev hasn't any .h file inside |
| 15:18.29 | annma | and libxtst has the Xtest headers? |
| 15:18.34 | annma | ah |
| 15:18.45 | annma | so what does it have? |
| 15:18.54 | visik7 | let me pastebin |
| 15:19.44 | visik7 | http://rafb.net/p/haICVJ87.html |
| 15:21.43 | annma | if I was to remove it I would have to remove libxorg-x11-devel and KDE would not build at all |
| 15:22.36 | visik7 | here the dependancies are not like that |
| 15:22.51 | visik7 | isn't libxorg-x11-devel a metapackage ? |
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| 15:23.10 | annma | metapackage? |
| 15:23.34 | annma | what doe syour libxsxt-dev |
| 15:23.42 | annma | what does your libxsxt-dev depend on? |
| 15:24.33 | visik7 | annma: you mean the package required by libxsxt-dev or packages that require it ? |
| 15:24.51 | annma | that require it |
| 15:25.02 | annma | what is your distro already? |
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| 15:26.57 | Half-Left | looks like a deb based one |
| 15:27.13 | annma | yup but I'd like to know which one |
| 15:27.17 | visik7 | annma: hardy |
| 15:27.22 | annma | do they all use the same packages? |
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| 15:27.44 | Half-Left | deb based usually have libbah, bah on the front |
| 15:27.58 | Half-Left | libxorg-dev |
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| 15:28.38 | Half-Left | I think they do yes and the naming |
| 15:28.41 | visik7 | annma: all reverse dependancies aren't installed on my system |
| 15:29.57 | visik7 | or to be more clear there is no package installed in my system that require libxsxt-dev |
| 15:29.59 | visik7 | :) |
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| 15:32.04 | Half-Left | you sure thats not libxslt and not libxsxt |
| 15:32.39 | annma | visik7: I am talking to the devel now |
| 15:32.44 | annma | Half-Left: no, no |
| 15:32.51 | visik7 | I've cut and pasted it through the chat so maybe I've propagate the error |
| 15:33.10 | visik7 | anyway the log pasted on rafb is the right name |
| 15:33.39 | annma | it's libxtst |
| 15:33.56 | annma | I have it too but dependent on X headers |
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| 15:34.17 | Half-Left | so maybe a typo then :) |
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| 15:35.22 | friedrich| | my kwin-effects seem to be not working. I get a black screen when enabling them |
| 15:35.33 | friedrich| | trunk/ of today |
| 15:36.06 | visik7 | friedrich|: known bug |
| 15:36.46 | friedrich| | so, is that fixed already? workaround? |
| 15:37.26 | annma | friedrich|: try a new user |
| 15:37.30 | annma | also look in code |
| 15:37.34 | Half-Left | KDE4.1 in the dark with composite :p |
| 15:37.44 | annma | see whom could have broken it |
| 15:37.57 | annma | look in websvn.kde.org |
| 15:38.10 | Half-Left | we need light widgets now :p |
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| 15:45.26 | LinkLP | Hi. Is there anyone alive ? |
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| 15:46.29 | Half-Left | LinkLP: Talking from the dead |
| 15:46.32 | annma | visik7: the Debian KDE packager builds without libxtst-dev and it builds |
| 15:46.49 | LinkLP | :) |
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| 15:47.23 | visik7 | annma: so, some wrong ubuntu split |
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| 15:48.22 | LinkLP | i have a problem with an usb optical mouse. does anyone can help me ? |
| 15:48.34 | annma | so what is "hardy" |
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| 15:48.43 | annma | LinkLP: ask your distro channel |
| 15:48.47 | Half-Left | annma: Ubuntu name |
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| 15:48.57 | annma | for what? |
| 15:48.59 | Half-Left | latest version name |
| 15:49.06 | annma | but the package is the same |
| 15:49.36 | annma | the .deb is the same, I don't see why KDE trunk would fail in one case and not in the other |
| 15:49.53 | Half-Left | hmm |
| 15:49.55 | annma | visik7: the guy build log is http://experimental.debian.net/fetch.php?&pkg=kdenetwork&ver=4%3A4.0.82%2Bsvn819867-1&arch=ia64&stamp=1214703389&file=log&as=raw |
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| 15:52.20 | Half-Left | annma: Your saying it builds on the same debian package but not the Ubuntu hardy one? |
| 15:52.51 | annma | Half-Left: that's what I am told |
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| 15:53.55 | Half-Left | As I remmeber they build off that and add Ubuntu-version on the end, maybe there own patches?, not sure |
| 15:55.29 | visik7 | no the version has no ~ubuntu1 |
| 15:56.01 | annma | well anyway I cannot pursue it considering a KDE person does not reproduce the problem |
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| 15:56.41 | Half-Left | sounds like a bug needs to eb filed for the package or something with Ubuntu |
| 15:56.48 | Half-Left | be* |
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| 15:58.44 | mvc | hi, I'm having some trouble with fonts. The odd thing is that they look really nice in the kdm login window, but not in kde in general |
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| 15:59.04 | mvc | does anyone knows how can I get the font settings kdm is using? |
| 15:59.05 | annma | mvc: look in kcontrol and change them |
| 15:59.20 | mvc | annma,already did that |
| 15:59.27 | annma | and? |
| 15:59.36 | annma | nothing helped? |
| 15:59.56 | mvc | annma, they are the same fonts, both in the login manager and in the appearance tabs |
| 16:00.10 | mvc | so they should look the same, i guess |
| 16:00.42 | mvc | I also tried adding another user but it didn't work also |
| 16:01.18 | mvc | maybe kdm is using another dpi than the rest of kde... |
| 16:01.22 | annma | did you try asking your distro channel? |
| 16:01.57 | mvc | I just did 5min ago, but got no answer |
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| 16:02.40 | mvc | I also looked into /var/log/kdm but no luck |
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| 16:05.20 | annma | what distribution is it? |
| 16:05.23 | mvc | gentoo |
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| 16:08.04 | annma | #gentoo-kde |
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| 16:08.48 | mvc | I'm there :) |
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| 16:21.18 | Envite | Hello all |
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| 16:21.24 | Envite | I've a question about KDE |
| 16:21.49 | annma | ;) |
| 16:21.54 | Envite | well, about how to configure KDE to use a different Window Manager than kwin |
| 16:22.20 | pinotree | http://developer.kde.org/~seli/kdewm/ |
| 16:22.33 | Envite | thx |
| 16:22.35 | Envite | :) |
| 16:23.05 | Jucato | gives pinotree a cookie :) |
| 16:23.33 | Envite | Jucato: give him/her another on me |
| 16:23.48 | Jucato | him :) |
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| 16:24.27 | Envite | Pino (meaning the pine tree) is a female name around here, so I was not sure |
| 16:25.13 | Jucato | heh :) |
| 16:26.59 | Envite | pinotree, thanks for the link. It has been useful. But I'm trying to check kde/windowmaker and wmaker seems not to have the --replace option :( |
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| 16:27.49 | annma | is window maker only a window manager? |
| 16:28.14 | Envite | annma: well, almost |
| 16:28.36 | annma | why do you want to run in in KDE? |
| 16:28.50 | Envite | running it without options from inside kde says that "there is anothe window manager running" |
| 16:29.00 | Jucato | Envite: --replace doesn't work always, mostly only for those wm's that comply with freedesktop.org standards |
| 16:29.05 | Jucato | even fluxbox doesn't have one iirc |
| 16:29.06 | annma | kwin is running probably ;) |
| 16:29.21 | Envite | probably :P |
| 16:29.33 | Envite | the answer to your other question is two-fold |
| 16:29.40 | Jucato | annma: the --replace command is supposed to kill the current wm and start the new wm |
| 16:29.41 | Envite | a) 'cos I can |
| 16:30.11 | annma | why don't run kde apps in window maker |
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| 16:30.13 | Envite | b) 'cos I'm nostalgic to the WindowMaker look and feel... it was my first window manager when I started on Linux |
| 16:30.23 | annma | ouch yes |
| 16:30.41 | annma | but I am not nostalgic!!! |
| 16:30.52 | annma | gald to have a same desktop |
| 16:30.55 | annma | sane |
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| 16:31.07 | Envite | annma: it's easy to run the kde apps, there is no problem there |
| 16:31.44 | Envite | but I want the whole desktop, including the bar and the tray and, well, whole, but retaining the dockapps and such |
| 16:31.49 | annma | if you manage it I'd like to see a screenshot |
| 16:32.03 | annma | as I don't think there is much difference |
| 16:32.15 | Envite | annma: well, i've found a non-perfect way |
| 16:32.27 | Envite | launching kdestart from windowmaker |
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| 16:32.45 | Envite | I'll shot a screenshot now |
| 16:32.49 | Jucato | Envite: the other way is to set KDEWM to windowmaker |
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| 16:33.45 | Envite | Jucato: I readed that in the link pinotree gave me |
| 16:33.49 | Envite | thx |
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| 16:39.27 | Envite | annma: http://rolamasao.org/startkde_from_windowmaker.png |
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| 16:41.21 | Jucato | Envite: you could just have used KDEWM and let KDE start normally :) |
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| 16:41.48 | Jucato | oh and btw, you can have a WM dock KDE panel |
| 16:42.01 | annma | that looks really old |
| 16:42.18 | annma | not my taste Envite ;) but thanks |
| 16:42.21 | Jucato | you wouldn't really know except by the borders |
| 16:42.27 | Jucato | (and you can fake borders...) |
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| 16:43.00 | Jucato | Envite: right-click on Kicker (panel) -> Add Panel -> Application dock (iirc) |
| 16:43.01 | Envite | Jucato: yes, but I've not discovered how |
| 16:43.11 | Envite | ah, ok |
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| 16:43.21 | Kenjiro | good afternoon |
| 16:43.32 | Envite | annma: I remember using it and I feel quite old, but quite happy |
| 16:44.16 | Envite | Jucato: seems that the application dock is a whole bar |
| 16:44.23 | Envite | or did I did something badly? |
| 16:44.28 | Jucato | yep a whole bar |
| 16:44.33 | Jucato | I think you can resize it |
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| 16:44.43 | Jucato | (right-click -> Configure Panel) |
| 16:45.01 | Envite | doesn't work :( |
| 16:45.05 | Kenjiro | KDE 4.1 still don't have a better search/find system, right? (find files) |
| 16:45.20 | Kenjiro | it still works like on old versions |
| 16:45.23 | Envite | must be right-click on principal panel |
| 16:45.30 | Envite | it works that way :) |
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| 16:45.50 | annma | isn't it slow all that stuff? |
| 16:46.20 | Jucato | Envite: ah no. you might be experiencing a bug. press Alt+F2, "dcop kicker kicker restart" then you'll be able to configure that panel as weel |
| 16:46.21 | Envite | wmaker (with all its stuff) is lighter than kwin |
| 16:46.21 | Jucato | well* |
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| 16:49.28 | Envite | heh, that killed all my started-from-kicker apps, including the IRC client |
| 16:49.40 | Envite | and still it is not directly configurable |
| 16:50.33 | Envite | well, I'm leaving now. I'll try the environment variable method |
| 16:50.35 | Jucato | O.o |
| 16:50.37 | Envite | thanks all! |
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| 16:54.21 | polineuh__ | hi everybody |
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| 16:54.50 | polineuh__ | i have a problme kde4 say Could not find dbus.check your installation |
| 16:57.13 | annma | install dbus polineuh__ |
| 16:59.28 | polineuh__ | annma dbus is installed |
| 16:59.48 | annma | so maybe yu did not compile qt with dbus? |
| 17:00.15 | polineuh__ | yes |
| 17:00.22 | polineuh__ | i have qdbus |
| 17:00.31 | polineuh__ | but kde doesn't find kde |
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| 17:00.38 | polineuh__ | dbus ** sorry |
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| 17:01.06 | hays | i had a problem like this and I forget what I did to fix it |
| 17:01.13 | Jucato | polineuh__: what does "which qdbus" say? |
| 17:01.21 | hays | I think I built from source and ran it out of my homedir |
| 17:01.34 | Jucato | (run "which qdbus" as the same user that is trying to start kde4) |
| 17:02.02 | Jucato | ann_dinner: bon appetit :) |
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| 17:03.12 | djouallah | eh where to fill a bug against nvidea driver ? |
| 17:03.36 | ethan961 | lol |
| 17:03.39 | Jucato | with nvidia... |
| 17:05.08 | djouallah | yes ? i am using the 2d driver right now the 3d one is so slow |
| 17:05.12 | hays | hits the "That Was Easy" button |
| 17:05.30 | hays | hmm ticket to belgium: 1500 |
| 17:05.32 | Half-Left | nvnews forums |
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| 17:06.17 | djouallah | Half-Left, yes but it seems there is a bug in freedesktop filled by seba, but i can't find it |
| 17:06.19 | Half-Left | djouallah: What bug? |
| 17:07.01 | djouallah | plasma sucks with nvidea driver |
| 17:07.08 | Half-Left | which version? |
| 17:07.28 | djouallah | Half-Left, don't know |
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| 17:07.42 | Half-Left | latest one is better but not as good as nv opensource one |
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| 17:09.08 | Thundercloud | Good day, if plasma crashes what's the best way to get it going again? |
| 17:09.21 | Thundercloud | Never mind |
| 17:09.25 | Half-Left | Run krunner |
| 17:09.32 | Thundercloud | Got it |
| 17:09.35 | Thundercloud | krunner, plasma, got it |
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| 17:10.01 | Half-Left | and file a bug if it not fixed already in trunk |
| 17:10.06 | EnsGabe | KDE4.1Beta: konqueror opens a new window for links opened externally even when the options are set otherwise. Is this known bad behavior? |
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| 17:10.19 | Thundercloud | Half-Left: If I knew how the bug triggered in the first place I would :D |
| 17:10.19 | alediaferia | uhm, typing plasma & ? |
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| 17:10.38 | SchranZViruS | Hi folks. Does anyone know about konqueror-svn with an "connection to server refused" message? |
| 17:10.38 | Half-Left | Thundercloud: Try to reproduce it :) |
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| 17:11.22 | Thundercloud | :P |
| 17:11.33 | Thundercloud | All that seemed to be happening is that I was going through the application launcher |
| 17:11.35 | Thundercloud | That's it |
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| 17:11.43 | Thundercloud | Unless amarok can somehow magically crash plasma :P |
| 17:11.54 | Half-Left | plasma has not crashed at all when using latest trunks so |
| 17:12.04 | Jucato | EnsGabe: is Konqueror on another virtual desktop when you clicked on a link? |
| 17:12.16 | Half-Left | it's alot more stable than it was thats for sure |
| 17:12.32 | EnsGabe | Jucato: same virtual desktop |
| 17:12.46 | Jucato | weird.. works fine for me |
| 17:12.56 | sjraarke | Hi all, me again :) When trying to add plasmoids from the internet every install fails because of zip errors (unexpected end of zipfile) What can/should I do to get this to work? |
| 17:14.35 | sjraarke | Btw, running Suse 11 kde 4.1 beta 2 (not the trunk cause that crashes for now) |
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| 17:15.11 | SchranZViruS | Does anyone know what to do when konqeuror-svn doesn't find any site? |
| 17:15.26 | blauzahl-laptop | so in 4, you can disable/enable session management? where? |
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| 17:16.09 | blauzahl-laptop | SchranZViruS: what do you mean? is the rest of your networking ok? |
| 17:16.28 | Jucato | blauzahl-laptop: Sys Settings -> Advanced -> Session Manager, |
| 17:16.45 | blauzahl-laptop | "advanced"... |
| 17:17.10 | SchranZViruS | All works fine, firefox, plasma getting new stuff and the old (3.5) konqueror works also. But the current konqueror from svn needs a long time and then says at every page "connection to server refused" |
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| 17:17.30 | Jucato | blauzahl-laptop: Search also works :) |
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| 17:19.09 | Kenjiro | Half-Left: know anything about the "search/find engine" in KDE 4.1? |
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| 17:19.39 | Half-Left | Kenjiro: What engine would that be? |
| 17:19.57 | Half-Left | just general searching> |
| 17:19.59 | Half-Left | ? |
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| 17:21.54 | polineuh__ | i've launch dbus with dbus-uuidgen to create machine id and dbus-launch --autolaunch dbus |
| 17:22.00 | polineuh__ | i've launch dbus with dbus-uuidgen to create machine id and dbus-launch --autolaunch machine id ** |
| 17:22.29 | SchranZViruS | blauzahl-laptop: do you know what this could cause? |
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| 17:23.21 | Kenjiro | Half-Left: yep, file searching |
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| 17:23.42 | Kenjiro | I used that today and noticed it still works like the old versions (KDE) |
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| 17:23.56 | Half-Left | Kenjiro: Not really, I think they did a srigi front end thats better suited |
| 17:24.08 | Half-Left | Strigi* |
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| 17:24.23 | Kenjiro | I still find it slow hehehee |
| 17:24.44 | Half-Left | once it's indexed it should be fast |
| 17:25.08 | Kenjiro | I will try that later again then |
| 17:25.08 | Half-Left | Just use beagle then :p |
| 17:25.19 | Half-Left | muuuuhahahaha |
| 17:25.27 | Half-Left | Kerry |
| 17:25.58 | Kenjiro | is getting scared |
| 17:25.59 | Kenjiro | *LO* |
| 17:26.02 | Kenjiro | *LOL* |
| 17:26.07 | polineuh__ | how kde say Could not start DBUS |
| 17:26.24 | polineuh__ | dbus is installed and qt is build with -dbus option |
| 17:26.48 | Half-Left | polineuh__: Is it even running, the process? |
| 17:27.10 | SchranZViruS | Noone knows the problem that konqueror (kde-4 svn) doesn't open any page? |
| 17:27.34 | Jucato | polineuh__: you didn't answer my earlier question did you? |
| 17:28.03 | polineuh__ | wich answer ? |
| 17:28.11 | Half-Left | looks around for opensuse devs |
| 17:28.34 | Jucato | <PROTECTED> |
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| 17:29.02 | Half-Left | SchranZViruS: nope, works here, last nights trunk |
| 17:29.10 | polineuh__ | it say qdbus no qdbus in my path , |
| 17:29.19 | Jucato | polineuh__: that's the problem |
| 17:29.27 | polineuh__ | but qdbus is in /usr/lib/qt4.4/bin |
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| 17:29.37 | polineuh__ | i create symolink in usr/bin |
| 17:29.50 | SchranZViruS | I have the latest version (one hour ago) and it didn't work. a version from 2 months ago didn't work neither (on another machine) |
| 17:29.50 | Jucato | no no |
| 17:29.56 | Jucato | polineuh__: don't do that |
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| 17:30.29 | Half-Left | SchranZViruS: Other browsers are ok I assume? |
| 17:30.35 | polineuh__ | cp ?? |
| 17:30.35 | Jucato | polineuh__: you should add your Qt 4 to the $PATH. it's in the guide if you're following one |
| 17:30.47 | SchranZViruS | Half-Left: Yes, everything works but konqueror |
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| 17:30.57 | polineuh__ | yes export QTDIR=/_usr/lib/qt-4.4.0/ |
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| 17:31.06 | polineuh__ | export PATH=$QTDIR:$PATH |
| 17:31.21 | Half-Left | SchranZViruS: Proxy? |
| 17:31.39 | thiago | QTDIR/bin |
| 17:31.39 | SchranZViruS | Half-Left: Direct connection |
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| 17:31.42 | Jucato | polineuh__: um.. $QTDIR/bin |
| 17:31.49 | polineuh__ | ok i try |
| 17:31.52 | Half-Left | SchranZViruS: Strange |
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| 17:32.28 | SchranZViruS | Half-Left: Thats right! And everything else from kde (KHotNewStuff ...) works |
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| 17:33.01 | polineuh__ | he work |
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| 17:33.20 | Half-Left | SchranZViruS: Weirdness |
| 17:33.58 | SchranZViruS | Half-Left: oh yes... and there are no bugs filed and google doesn't say anything... |
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| 17:35.22 | blauzahl-laptop_ | SchranZViruS: so networking works? |
| 17:35.41 | SchranZViruS | blauzahl-laptop_: yes, everything else works |
| 17:35.44 | blauzahl-laptop_ | do you get any useful error messages if you open it from the konsole? |
| 17:35.47 | blauzahl-laptop_ | cause that's really odd |
| 17:35.55 | SchranZViruS | no, not one message |
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| 17:36.36 | blauzahl-laptop_ | konsole. you will get messages. |
| 17:36.46 | blauzahl-laptop_ | go to a terminal and type "konqueror" |
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| 17:37.19 | SchranZViruS | No, the only message I get is about an history entry which has the wrong version, but thats because I started konqueror-3.5 just before |
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| 17:38.52 | blauzahl-laptop_ | oh. i guess its a stripped for release version |
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| 17:38.58 | SchranZViruS | I have to leave... I wil build it with debug support tomorrow and look if this brings any useful messages. |
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| 17:39.02 | blauzahl-laptop_ | what distro? |
| 17:39.06 | blauzahl-laptop_ | yeah, something is screwy |
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| 17:43.42 | thomas_s | Hi! I asked that is KDE part of OS (operating system) or not, from #kde-devel but they suggested to ask from here :) |
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| 17:46.26 | sjraarke | How do I make the distinction between the KDE4 and KDE 3 versions of say kontact or Kopete? I checked in the menu editor but there both entries are basically the same. Is there a setting in the menu that is not displayed in the menu editor? |
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| 17:47.19 | kdepepo | sjraarke, depends on your distribution. With openSUSE, kde4 apps are marked with (AppName/KDE4) in kde3 session, in visa verse in kde4 session. |
| 17:47.50 | Pinaraf | thomas_s: what do you mean ? |
| 17:47.56 | sjraarke | kdepepo : Suse 11, kde 4.1 beta 2 |
| 17:48.04 | Kenjiro | speaking of such things... I would like to set a keyboard shortcut to open dolphin. Any tips? |
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| 17:49.31 | mot | question: anybody here familiar with the kmess project? |
| 17:49.46 | mot | i'm trying to do a little dev work on the latest svn revision but i get the following error: cd '/DATA/home/mot/Desktop/kmess/build' && LC_MESSAGES="C" LC_CTYPE="C" make -k -j3 |
| 17:49.46 | mot | cd: 1: can't cd to /DATA/home/mot/Desktop/kmess/build |
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| 17:49.59 | kdepepo | Kenjiro, shortcuts in KDE4? are you kidding? :) |
| 17:50.01 | mot | which makes no sense, because there is no build directory in the svn repo for the project |
| 17:50.33 | Kenjiro | kdepepo: no, I am not |
| 17:50.54 | Kenjiro | I went to SETTINGS, keyboard, shortcuts... |
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| 17:51.07 | Kenjiro | but didn't see anything related to dolphin |
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| 17:52.06 | estar | Hi, is this the right channel to ask about kmplayer or is there a specific one? |
| 17:52.11 | andrewy | does kde4 support dual monitors using two separate X screens? when I start it one of the screens has nothing on it and I can't find an option to enable it |
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| 17:53.59 | Kenjiro | andrewy: I think that is Xorg related, not KDE |
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| 17:54.33 | andrewy | Kenjiro: don't think so. kde3, gnome, and pretty much every other WM i've tried detect it and handle it appropriately |
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| 17:54.57 | Kenjiro | andrewy: hmmmmmmmmmm |
| 17:55.27 | andrewy | the 2nd screen does have a cursor, but it's the standard Xorg "X", not kde's cursor |
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| 17:59.09 | slobad24 | i have been kicking around the opensuse channel as a complete linux newbie... and said to someone earlier today that i thought gnome was suposed to be more stable and les resource hungry than kde - the reaction i got was one of disgust |
| 17:59.57 | Half-Left | slobad24: Yer it's sensitive |
| 18:00.01 | estar | I'm trying to use Kmplayer to play an EVRC file. Ive tried opening the QCP file and an MP4 file converted with gpac, but wasn't able to play it. Which backend is supposed to support EVRC? It's listed as a supported codec for Kmplayer. |
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| 18:00.46 | estar | (Also, I tried searching for this and came up with nothing except a forum thread suggesting the MP4 container.) |
| 18:00.52 | Half-Left | My desktop or OS is bigger and better then yours usually are |
| 18:00.58 | slobad24 | if im going to use kde - which one should i use? oen suse ships with both so am i right in guessing they offer 3.5 because 4 is a little quirky? |
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| 18:02.50 | Half-Left | slobad24: It's new tech, so yes |
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| 18:03.11 | slobad24 | does kde use a lot more system resources than gnome? |
| 18:03.17 | Half-Left | try both |
| 18:03.39 | annma | slobad24: no |
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| 18:04.07 | slobad24 | is there a 'definitive!' listing of what they both use as standard? |
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| 18:04.27 | slobad24 | i read somewhere that gnome runs on about 340 ram and kde takes at least 512 |
| 18:04.39 | Half-Left | no way |
| 18:04.46 | Half-Left | nonsense |
| 18:05.01 | annma | slobad24: you can read anything on the internet |
| 18:05.08 | annma | anything and its contrary |
| 18:05.12 | slobad24 | everything i read on the net is true :p |
| 18:05.24 | annma | yes, sure |
| 18:05.39 | Half-Left | slobad24: 4.1 takes less than 256mb according to my stats so |
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| 18:05.46 | annma | I have a friend who runs KDE4 on 256Mb RAM |
| 18:05.58 | annma | he might be there, I don't remember who it is |
| 18:06.36 | slobad24 | see with what i read on this review of desktops for linux - i have been running xfce on an old laptop with 256 |
| 18:06.46 | slobad24 | if i could get away with running kde, then i would love to! |
| 18:06.59 | Half-Left | minimal specs for both DE's are 256mb ram KDE3.x/gnome2.x |
| 18:07.18 | slobad24 | kde it is then! |
| 18:07.39 | slobad24 | let's just join #gnome and see what they have to say :p |
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| 18:08.30 | Half-Left | annma: KDE 512mb ram LOL |
| 18:08.56 | blauzahl-laptop_ | Kenjiro: check bug reports? |
| 18:09.00 | annma | I have KDE on a desktop which has 512 Mb RAM total so KDE takes less |
| 18:09.22 | slobad24 | the internet told me so half-left... you can't argue with the internet! |
| 18:09.37 | Half-Left | yer but to say gnoem only requeries 256 and KDE 512 is stupif at best |
| 18:09.47 | Half-Left | gnome* |
| 18:09.51 | Kenjiro | blauzahl-laptop_: about the shortcut thing? |
| 18:09.53 | slobad24 | people in #gnome aren't even talking to me - too good for me eh! i'll show them! |
| 18:10.10 | blauzahl-laptop_ | no, dual monitor thing |
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| 18:10.16 | blauzahl-laptop_ | wasn't that you? |
| 18:10.17 | Half-Left | slobad24: Facturally wrong, if I hated KDE I would even know that |
| 18:10.47 | slobad24 | im glad - because opensuse looks pug fugly with gnome |
| 18:10.51 | Kenjiro | blauzahl-laptop_: it was andrewy asking about that ;) |
| 18:11.25 | Half-Left | slobad24: Tahts because they run mono stuff by default and beagle and alot of other stuff |
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| 18:11.52 | Half-Left | it's not as bad as people make out but it's slower and more resources |
| 18:12.06 | slobad24 | i guess i have tried knoppix and if that uses kde, it should have told me something really |
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| 18:14.13 | annma | slobad24: yes, that would be good |
| 18:14.21 | annma | although liveCDs are somewhat slow |
| 18:14.21 | Half-Left | wow, osnews is bring them KDE trolls out |
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| 18:18.14 | slobad24 | thanks for the info ladies and gents! |
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| 18:18.23 | slobad24 | im a changed man |
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| 18:18.43 | annma | :) |
| 18:19.25 | Half-Left | hehe |
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| 18:19.39 | Half-Left | slobad24: You come to the right people thats why :) |
| 18:19.59 | annma | oh Half-Left you're an English |
| 18:20.08 | annma | 8:00 pm or 8:00 PM |
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| 18:20.18 | annma | for time, pm or PM? |
| 18:20.19 | Half-Left | 720pm |
| 18:20.26 | Half-Left | 7:20pm |
| 18:20.35 | annma | not PM |
| 18:20.46 | annma | and no space? |
| 18:21.04 | Half-Left | I'm the last person you should ask about gramma :) |
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| 18:21.15 | Half-Left | see ^ |
| 18:21.20 | kniolet | fwiw in the US it can be any of those |
| 18:21.20 | kniolet | lol |
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| 18:22.02 | slobad24 | it's p.m. |
| 18:22.13 | Half-Left | yep |
| 18:22.26 | Half-Left | pretens |
| 18:22.32 | Half-Left | pretends he knows |
| 18:22.41 | slobad24 | lower case and as many of this little dots and you can fit in |
| 18:22.50 | kniolet | but in computer software its very very common to see it like PM or even like 4:00pm |
| 18:22.51 | slobad24 | ....................p...............................................m...... |
| 18:23.07 | annma | lol slobad24 |
| 18:23.07 | kniolet | haha |
| 18:23.15 | annma | taht's for slowing time |
| 18:23.26 | slobad24 | i've invented a time machine - you saw it here first |
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| 18:23.35 | annma | lol |
| 18:23.58 | kniolet | what if you use 24 hour time? then you are out of luck :-/ |
| 18:24.07 | Half-Left | I make up for my spelling with graphics and art power :) |
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| 18:24.35 | slobad24 | http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=p.m. |
| 18:24.40 | slobad24 | you learn something new every day |
| 18:24.44 | Half-Left | No I can't spell it but I can draw it for you :p |
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| 18:24.47 | slobad24 | sometimes those things you learn are more useful than others |
| 18:26.01 | kniolet | that link says its PM |
| 18:26.40 | kniolet | oh its undr PM pm p.m and P.M. |
| 18:26.41 | kniolet | lol |
| 18:27.02 | Half-Left | I think we get it :p |
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| 18:27.30 | slobad24 | who cares :-[ |
| 18:28.15 | slobad24 | let's talk about something a little more interesting eh? did you know that brad pitt is john lithgow's newphew? |
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| 18:28.55 | Half-Left | slobad24: Not in here you won't, KDE only :) |
| 18:29.39 | slobad24 | back to learning something new every day then! - did you know that KDE doesnt take 400 times more system memory than gnome? |
| 18:29.44 | slobad24 | i didnt until just now! |
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| 18:31.45 | Hiryu | heh |
| 18:31.55 | Hiryu | KDE's resource usage isn't terribly by any means |
| 18:32.24 | Half-Left | Hmm this toolbar bug is still doing the rounds |
| 18:34.14 | Half-Left | it's not staying fixed |
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| 18:36.41 | mot | wtf |
| 18:36.46 | mot | what package is 'kde4-config' in? |
| 18:36.53 | Thundercloud | I am now sitting slack jawed and googly eyed at kde4 trunk. Having installed the basics + pim, multimedia and network, is there anything else you guys would recommend to install which will keep me in aw? |
| 18:36.54 | Thundercloud | s/ awe? |
| 18:36.56 | annma | kdelibs |
| 18:36.56 | mot | i don't see it in the ubuntu repos and yet kmess is whining baout it. |
| 18:36.58 | thiago | mot: kdelibs |
| 18:37.03 | annma | mot: kdelibs |
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| 18:37.24 | mot | kdelibs4-dev is already the newest version. |
| 18:37.28 | mot | .... |
| 18:37.41 | annma | what distro? |
| 18:37.54 | annma | ask in your distro channel for support on this stuff |
| 18:37.54 | thiago | mot: ask your distro for information. |
| 18:38.01 | mot | kubuntu |
| 18:38.03 | annma | (beat you thiago) |
| 18:38.06 | mot | eh |
| 18:38.14 | thiago | annma: not according to my history :-P |
| 18:38.22 | annma | kubuntu as debian has the weird habit of mis-numbering KDE |
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| 18:38.45 | annma | kdelibs4-devel might be kde3 in fact |
| 18:38.49 | annma | thiago: I did |
| 18:38.56 | annma | your history is biased |
| 18:38.57 | mot | damnit |
| 18:39.03 | mot | kde, why do you have american so much?! :O |
| 18:39.18 | annma | I have precedence |
| 18:39.22 | annma | mot: ? |
| 18:39.32 | mot | nothin' |
| 18:39.40 | mot | you've never read "this modern world"? |
| 18:39.53 | annma | I am not Amarican |
| 18:39.59 | annma | american |
| 18:40.00 | thiago | never heard of it |
| 18:40.30 | annma | what auhtor mot? |
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| 18:47.02 | Phlogi__ | where is the kde session saved when I log out? I'm having problems with it and want to delete the settings |
| 18:47.43 | annma | kdeglobals I think |
| 18:47.56 | annma | hmm, maybe not |
| 18:49.57 | annma | Phlogi__: you have stuff saved in .kde4/share/config/session |
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| 18:51.15 | annma | and the session config (manually, empty or previous) is in ksmserverrc |
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| 18:53.22 | mot | what is the latest version of kde in the 8.04 repos? |
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| 18:53.50 | annma | mot: ask your distro channel as well |
| 18:53.57 | mot | oh my bad |
| 18:54.02 | mot | sorry i though i was in #kubuntu |
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| 19:00.34 | annma | mr_clark: what distro and what kde version? |
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| 19:02.12 | simi | hi, i installed kde4.1 beta2 on kubuntu hardy. the alttab and alt+f4 do not work, i need help because the solution i found on google do not fix this |
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| 19:02.57 | mr_clark | annma, Opensuse 11. KDE version 4.0.4 |
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| 19:05.16 | dowdle | Probably an FAQ somewhere but I haven't found it yet. I'm using KDE 4.0.5 on Fedora 9... and I have a question about konsole. If I double-click on a tab to name it, and then SSH to a remote system, the tab renames itself to whatever the remote shell says... which is in most cases just "Shell". I see many settings in konsole's preferences for having the tab name itself after various environment variable contents... but not a "just keep the name I |
| 19:05.16 | dowdle | manually gave you" setting. The konsole help seems to be for the 3.5.x release. Anyone know how to make tabs keep the names I give them? Right now the tab settings sections are blank. |
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| 19:12.41 | Half-Left | update time! |
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| 19:15.20 | Phlogi__ | where is the kde session saved when I log out? I'm having problems with it and want to delete the settings |
| 19:15.39 | Kenjiro | kdepepo: may I pvt you? |
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| 19:18.44 | Delemas | Phlogi__, I'd guess ~/.kde/ |
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| 19:19.00 | Phlogi__ | Delemas: yes an then? |
| 19:19.06 | Phlogi__ | I need the correct file/folder |
| 19:19.12 | Delemas | ah |
| 19:19.51 | Delemas | That would depend on the problem I would think... |
| 19:20.25 | Phlogi__ | the session is not saved, it always loads the same crap |
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| 19:23.30 | kdepepo | Kenjiro, sorry, I cannot message you... |
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| 19:29.57 | Kenjiro | kdepepo: ok, no prob |
| 19:30.32 | csh | hi, i was just playing around with some desktop effects and i was wondering if there's a way to activate the "present window" effect via mouse |
| 19:30.34 | kdepepo | Kenjiro, #skulpture maybe? |
| 19:30.47 | Kenjiro | hehehehe |
| 19:30.58 | csh | i could imagine that being a great replacement for normal task managers |
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| 19:32.24 | SSJ_GZ | csh: I think it's keyboard only for the time being. What did you have in mind exactly e.g. how would you use the mouse to activate the effect? |
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| 19:32.59 | csh | SSJ_GZ: my mouse has buttons on the left and right i don't really need. for older mouses, mouse gestures maybe? |
| 19:34.06 | SSJ_GZ | csh: Someone put quite a bit of work into mouse gestures, for KDE4, but unfortunately it doesn't really work yet and he has only limited time :/ So *hopefully*, someday you'll get your wish ;) |
| 19:34.49 | Half-Left | annma: Konqueror is not remembering the file name when you download a tar, the location bar is blank |
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| 19:35.31 | WaY | hello |
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| 19:36.20 | WaY | does anybody knows how to fit the transition to libplasma2 when installing a new widget? |
| 19:36.32 | WaY | all widgets depends on libplasma1 |
| 19:36.54 | Half-Left | ask your distro channel |
| 19:37.38 | WaY | ok, thanks |
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| 19:43.37 | tdn | I want to run a script each time a USB storage device is inserted. Can you help me on how to approach this? |
| 19:44.47 | thiago | wrong channel |
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| 19:45.00 | thiago | please ask in your distribution's channel or even a HAL channel |
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| 19:48.44 | lymeca | I'm using KDE 4.1 beta2 and I can't figure out how to configure Dolphin and/or Konqueror to only activate an item when I double-click on it instead of single-click. |
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| 19:50.00 | Half-Left | lymeca: Systemsettings>Keyboard and mouse>Mouse |
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| 19:50.27 | Thundercloud | Are there plans to implement the hide-icon feature for kde4's systray? |
| 19:50.59 | lymeca | Thanks! |
| 19:51.02 | Half-Left | ask in #plasma if you like |
| 19:51.06 | lymeca | Btw this rocks |
| 19:51.24 | lymeca | Totally worthy of replacing 3.5.9 even in beta |
| 19:51.38 | lymeca | I'm glad to see the efforts of the 4.x rewrite finally be realised. |
| 19:51.40 | Battousai | the oxygen cursors are quite nice |
| 19:51.42 | Half-Left | good, I think so too |
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| 19:52.03 | lymeca | Hopefully Debian will package it finally =P |
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| 19:52.36 | Thundercloud | For me, 4.1 trunk is damned close to being able to take over from kde3 for me |
| 19:52.50 | Thundercloud | btw, well done on the desktop effects |
| 19:53.02 | Thundercloud | They run damned smooth even on my macbook |
| 19:53.21 | lymeca | Thundercloud: How does COmpiz Fusion run on your MacBook? |
| 19:53.27 | lymeca | And what distribution do you run? |
| 19:53.36 | Thundercloud | *shrugs* It's not really compiz fusion |
| 19:53.46 | Thundercloud | It's just kde's stuff, which afaik is slightly different from compiz |
| 19:53.53 | Thundercloud | I'm running 4.1 trunk |
| 19:53.59 | Battousai | nvidia fixing their drivers would be nice ;) |
| 19:54.00 | Thundercloud | So technically doesn't matter what distro I run :D |
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| 19:55.03 | Battousai | speaking of trunk, is there a way to turn off the smooth scrolling? |
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| 19:58.50 | Half-Left | Battousai: in konqueror yer |
| 20:00.01 | Battousai | oh, haha |
| 20:00.03 | Battousai | there it is |
| 20:00.10 | Battousai | Half-Left: thanks :) |
| 20:00.37 | Half-Left | heh |
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| 20:04.42 | sandsmark | can anyone NOT using kdemod/archlinux try to reproduce this?: http://www.kdemod.ath.cx/bbs/viewtopic.php?id=811 |
| 20:04.43 | Half-Left | kdebase make error, revision 827376 |
| 20:07.53 | Half-Left | pinotree: kdebase trunk make error http://pastebin.com/m1c8441cf |
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| 20:08.37 | pinotree | Half-Left: line 26 looks like a local problem on your side |
| 20:08.47 | gkiagia | sandsmark: reproducable in debian here |
| 20:09.41 | Half-Left | pinotree: svn-clean dont fix it, delet runtime directory and svn up should fix it? |
| 20:09.52 | pinotree | no idea |
| 20:10.00 | sandsmark | gkiagia: thanks |
| 20:10.02 | Half-Left | I'll try it |
| 20:10.08 | thiago | Half-Left: wrong channel |
| 20:10.10 | sandsmark | gkiagia: I'll ask the user to file a bug =) |
| 20:10.15 | thiago | #kde-devel for build errors from trunk |
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| 20:10.34 | thiago | and there are no errors in your output |
| 20:10.47 | thiago | except that Permission denied |
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| 20:12.50 | Half-Left | hmmm ok |
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| 20:15.06 | SchranZViruS | blauzahl_laptop_: I'm back and i recompiled konqueror with "debug" turned on. And (how could it be else) there is no message that would say anything avout this behavior |
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| 20:17.21 | SchranZViruS | blauzahl_laptop_: But I found other things that are interesting concerning konqueror (which might be in association with this problem) |
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| 20:20.24 | el1te | hi all |
| 20:21.19 | el1te | is there a sound mixer app for KDE that lets you select between (2) sound cards like this pic. http://www.domenech.org/bt878a-adc/gnome-alsa-mixer-ensoniq.png AND it can not connect to it using emulated OSS |
| 20:23.15 | thiago | the only sound mixer in KDE is kmix |
| 20:23.31 | thiago | I don't know if it does what you want (I don't understand what you want), but kmix is all you've got |
| 20:23.36 | el1te | it wont let me select my 2nd sound card |
| 20:23.45 | el1te | see that pic in the link above |
| 20:23.46 | thiago | quit and start it again if you're using KDE 3 |
| 20:23.59 | el1te | it shows 2 tabs (1 for each sound card) |
| 20:24.57 | SchranZViruS | does anyone know why the current konqueror (kde4-svn) doesn't load any website? |
| 20:26.24 | thiago | SchranZViruS: it loads a lot of websites for me. |
| 20:26.35 | thiago | but I built it last week. |
| 20:27.13 | lymeca | Is there a list of KDE apps which haven't been switched to 4.x yet? |
| 20:27.16 | SchranZViruS | thiago: that's what everyone says. But unfortunately it cannot load any site for me and this happens since 4.0 and on two different machines |
| 20:27.39 | SchranZViruS | konqueror is switched and the 3.5 konqueror works under 4.1 ^^ |
| 20:27.42 | thiago | SchranZViruS: try on a different network. |
| 20:28.32 | SchranZViruS | everything else works including all kde-4.x-apps, but knoqueror not. Maybe its becaus I have gentoo, because that is the only common thing between this machines and this version?! |
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| 20:29.22 | thiago | can you open a webpage in kwrite? |
| 20:30.01 | thiago | can you open a local filesystem webpage in Konqueror? |
| 20:30.23 | SchranZViruS | I havent tested it yet and I can't test it now, but I will test it. But it doesn't open ftp neither |
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| 20:31.27 | SchranZViruS | with http it says: connection refused by server... after about 2 minutes and with ftp it says directly: aborted by user |
| 20:33.07 | SchranZViruS | And with or without debuggin turned on, there are no messages that say something about it |
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| 20:36.09 | thiago | the messages go to ~/.xsession-errors |
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| 20:45.28 | andrewy | blauzahl-laptop_: no, I don't see any kde4 bugs about dual screen/dual monitor configurations not working at all. I don't even get a kde cursor on the 2nd |
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| 20:48.29 | dennis_p | i can move windows from one desktop to one of the other 4. |
| 20:48.36 | dennis_p | anyone know if i can drag a window from one display to another? |
| 20:48.47 | andrewy | you can with xinerama/twinview |
| 20:48.55 | andrewy | not if the windows are separate screens |
| 20:49.04 | dennis_p | ah |
| 20:49.05 | andrewy | (X screens) |
| 20:49.40 | dennis_p | yes in need them separate otherwise the videoplayers stutter |
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| 20:49.55 | dennis_p | I see, i need them separate otherwise the videoplayers stutter |
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| 20:51.09 | dennis_p | is there a kicker tool to drag windows from seperate displays and cheat this limitation? |
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| 21:04.50 | Rindert | Hello |
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| 21:06.01 | Half-Left | pinotree: I keep getting permission denied everytime make now with different directorties |
| 21:06.29 | Half-Left | directories* |
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| 21:07.13 | Rindert | i have a question about compiling 'hello word' from the kde tutorial |
| 21:08.10 | Half-Left | I'll have to re bring down the whole of kdebase again |
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| 21:08.42 | Rindert | main.cpp:1:24: error: KApplication: No such file or directory : is what i get |
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| 21:10.36 | Rindert | can someone help me with this? |
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| 21:11.48 | conley | Hi (I'm using 4.1), I want to put a bunch of widgets on my desktop, but I don't like the black background. How do I make that transparent? |
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| 21:12.45 | Half-Left | What black background? |
| 21:13.08 | conley | like, if I were to put an analog clock on the desktop |
| 21:13.22 | conley | there's a black glassy square behind it |
| 21:13.32 | conley | and no matter what themes I pick, it's always there |
| 21:13.33 | Rindert | conley: right click on desktop -> modify destop -> and add new themes on the bottom |
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| 21:14.06 | Half-Left | conley: Does it have controls? |
| 21:14.08 | conley | thanks |
| 21:14.25 | conley | yea, but none that control that...It's like this with all the desktop widgetns |
| 21:14.33 | Rindert | i use theme Silicon, tranparent, gray |
| 21:14.47 | Half-Left | screenshot? |
| 21:15.11 | conley | (You'd think the thing that says widget theme in settings->appearance would change the widgets) |
| 21:16.13 | Half-Left | Mouse over it or lock widgets |
| 21:17.41 | conley | locking the widgets doesn't seem to do anything, but I'm messing with the desktop themes |
| 21:17.56 | Half-Left | post a screenshot please |
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| 21:23.55 | lymeca | Is there a list of KDE apps which haven't been switched to 4.x yet? |
| 21:24.13 | lymeca | I know Amarok and Digikam are the two ones that I use...how can I tell if there are any others? |
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| 21:26.25 | conley | lymeca: You should use amarok-nightly if you want amarok 2 |
| 21:26.55 | lymeca | conley: I'm just curious about stable releases of applications which haven't been ported to KDE 4.x/QT4 |
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| 21:27.24 | friedrich| | konversation :-/ |
| 21:28.09 | Half-Left | Quassle is a nice Qt4 IRC app |
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| 21:31.12 | friedrich| | can't find screenshots of that at their website... |
| 21:31.20 | friedrich| | so I wouldn't go bother installing it.. |
| 21:31.31 | Half-Left | You want mine? |
| 21:31.55 | friedrich| | ok. |
| 21:32.44 | friedrich| | and.. if you can tell me a replacement for quadkonsole - I'd not need to waste anymore mem on kde3libs |
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| 21:33.30 | Half-Left | friedrich|: http://img53.imageshack.us/img53/7996/quasselrf9.png |
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| 21:34.15 | friedrich| | hmm.. looks nice |
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| 21:34.39 | Half-Left | has tray intergration as well |
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| 21:38.51 | cb400f | lymeca: http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/Application_Porting_Status |
| 21:39.07 | cb400f | .. not necessarily up to date |
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| 22:11.55 | graf_p | Ñ? |
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| 22:14.10 | McCheese | hey |
| 22:14.49 | McCheese | if you read Digg and see this |
| 22:14.51 | McCheese | send me a whisper |
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| 22:20.22 | Kenjiro | is java/javascript support working for you guys on Konqueror? (KDE 4.1beta2) |
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| 22:25.09 | \bin\tclsh | hello |
| 22:25.14 | Half-Left | Kenjiro: yep fine |
| 22:25.19 | \bin\tclsh | si there possible change the default KMenu image? |
| 22:25.38 | Half-Left | yes |
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| 22:25.51 | Half-Left | Just change the icon |
| 22:26.00 | \bin\tclsh | heh where? |
| 22:26.03 | Half-Left | in your icons directory |
| 22:26.11 | Half-Left | kde4 or 3? |
| 22:26.14 | \bin\tclsh | 3 |
| 22:26.21 | \bin\tclsh | KMenu.png or something like that? |
| 22:26.38 | Half-Left | yep |
| 22:26.53 | \bin\tclsh | okay thanks :) |
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| 22:27.11 | Half-Left | Just get the rigth size though |
| 22:27.31 | \bin\tclsh | aha, ok |
| 22:27.40 | Half-Left | I THINK it's the 48x48 one |
| 22:27.53 | \bin\tclsh | and the last thing, what i need to get the same apperance in every windows that are not kde native? such like xchat |
| 22:28.10 | \bin\tclsh | i was googleing and i read that i need something like gtk, or qt, or both |
| 22:28.23 | \bin\tclsh | and the programs must have gtk support |
| 22:28.24 | Half-Left | gtk-qt theme |
| 22:28.42 | \bin\tclsh | i go to search in apt, thanks again |
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| 22:29.30 | Half-Left | Kenjiro: just point it to your java, i.e /usr/bin/java |
| 22:31.14 | Kenjiro | Half-Left: I will try that, although I thought it would have been configured by itself |
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| 22:31.52 | Half-Left | Kenjiro: I just tried it mayself, worked http://www.bodo.com/javame.htm |
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| 22:33.10 | \bin\tclsh | i found QtCurve |
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| 22:34.48 | Kenjiro | ok dokey, when I get home I will try it :). Thanks Half-Left |
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| 22:35.38 | Half-Left | :) |
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| 23:52.54 | Thundercloud | I really was |
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| 23:53.23 | Thundercloud | Tried kde4 trunk on my main user |
| 23:53.27 | Thundercloud | Didn't quite work unfortunately :( |
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| 23:54.52 | Thundercloud | Was going smoothly until I tried to log back in |
| 23:54.58 | Thundercloud | Plasma greeted me by fading out to black |
| 23:54.59 | Thundercloud | And not fading in |
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