| 00:00.09 | Half-Left | Well I can show you 3 screenshots of my device mounted in dolphin, maybe a device issue |
| 00:00.09 | xevix | Jucato, yes, that |
| 00:00.29 | Jucato | xevix: nothing in KDE 4 so far |
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| 00:00.45 | xevix | Jucato, ok, thank you for answering my very simple question. i didn't think it could be this hard to get something so simple across =p |
| 00:00.55 | Half-Left | Jucato: Right so KDE4 handles is slightly differently |
| 00:01.17 | Jucato | Half-Left: no. more like "KDE 4 doesn't have that yet" |
| 00:01.26 | xevix | right |
| 00:01.32 | xevix | that's all i wanted to know |
| 00:01.35 | Jucato | because it's still handles it the same way, except there's no dialog box anymore, just the device notifier in the panel |
| 00:01.37 | Half-Left | I must say I didn't notice |
| 00:02.10 | Daskreech | xevix: What's the difference between #2 and #3 ? |
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| 00:02.55 | xevix | Daskreech, oops, upped the same pic twice, good call =p |
| 00:03.23 | Half-Left | xevix: Sorry I just didn't notice it was not autromount |
| 00:03.30 | memem | hmm I restarted the rc.hald but I still don't see my camera in that device recently plugged in or typing mount |
| 00:03.51 | xevix | Half-Left, all good |
| 00:04.11 | xevix | Daskreech, http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y25/Dyphaestus/mount3.png |
| 00:04.12 | xevix | there |
| 00:04.22 | g2g591 | anyone know how I can get kde 4.1 to read my ~/.Xmodmap ? |
| 00:04.30 | xevix | in the 3rd one it's mounted, so you see the little pin icon on the ipod |
| 00:04.50 | Daskreech | xevix: ok makes sense |
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| 00:04.58 | xevix | yeah, hah, oops |
| 00:05.08 | Half-Left | is goign to bed so uses that as a excuse |
| 00:05.52 | Half-Left | uses the same excuse for his bad spelling |
| 00:07.30 | g2g591 | anyone know how I can get kde to read my ~/.Xmodmap ? |
| 00:07.38 | Half-Left | redeems himself |
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| 00:19.06 | rivad | Anybody know where file associations are for kde? Suddenly .txt files open with OpenOffice instead of KWrite. |
| 00:19.52 | Jucato | KDE 3: KControl -> KDE Components -> File Associations. KDE 4: System Settings -> Advanced tab -> File Associations |
| 00:20.44 | rivad | yeah, right in front of me and I couldn't see it. Thanks. |
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| 00:24.26 | getBoa | What are the minimum system requirements for KDE 4? |
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| 00:27.44 | friedrich| | display + input devices |
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| 00:58.12 | akita | w00t |
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| 00:58.59 | corsair_ | hi, how does one specify the browser konversation uses when you click a link? is that a konvi/kde config thing, or a distro (ubuntu hardy) thing? |
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| 01:00.44 | Jucato | corsair_: konversation, like a good KDE app, follows the KDE settings for default browser. but you can set your own preferred browser for konversation |
| 01:01.07 | corsair_ | Jucato: and where do i find these settings? |
| 01:01.38 | Jucato | Settings -> Configure Konversation -> General |
| 01:02.48 | corsair_ | Jucato: and to set the KDE default browser? |
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| 01:04.05 | Jucato | corsair_: by default, konvi will use whatever is set to be KDE's default browser (konqueror). you can change what konvi will use in the settings I gave you |
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| 01:09.35 | joshua__ | how come I cant move my window around the desktop |
| 01:10.52 | Daskreech | No kwin? |
| 01:11.25 | joshua__ | im using gnome |
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| 01:11.52 | Jucato | joshua__: um.. #gnome maybe? |
| 01:12.09 | joshua__ | what is that? |
| 01:12.18 | Jucato | the channel for Gnome |
| 01:12.22 | Jucato | ths is #kde for KDE |
| 01:12.42 | Daskreech | Technically isn't the Gnome chan |
| 01:12.50 | joshua__ | i enabled visual effects now i cant see the top right hand corner of the window to minimize or close |
| 01:12.59 | joshua__ | i see |
| 01:13.05 | g2g591 | joshua__: type /join #gnome |
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| 01:13.17 | Daskreech | irc.gimp.net/#gnome |
| 01:13.31 | Jucato | Daskreech: you guide him then |
| 01:14.16 | Daskreech | I don't know what he's doing |
| 01:14.24 | Daskreech | joshua__: What distro? |
| 01:14.35 | joshua__ | ubuntu |
| 01:14.39 | Daskreech | and how did you enable Visual effects? |
| 01:14.51 | joshua__ | i cant move the window around |
| 01:14.56 | joshua__ | i cant close it |
| 01:15.05 | Daskreech | joshua__: does it have a title bar? |
| 01:15.24 | Elite_x | joshua__: thats why you have to install kde |
| 01:15.32 | Jucato | joshua__: you should ask for help in #ubuntu |
| 01:15.49 | joshua__ | yes there is a title bar |
| 01:15.54 | g2g591 | joshua__: wrong place for you to ask for help with gnome and ubuntu |
| 01:16.00 | joshua__ | sorry |
| 01:16.14 | Jucato | joshua__: type /join #ubuntu |
| 01:16.16 | Jucato | ask for help there |
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| 01:31.50 | bbeck | Is there anyway to alter the file watcher plasmoid? I'm watching the syslog, but the text extends all the way off the screen. I was wondering if there was a way to do word wrap, or at least cut the text at the edge of the plasmoid. |
| 01:32.44 | Daskreech | bbeck: Sure thing I suppose grab the code |
| 01:34.45 | bbeck | Daskreech: cool, can you point me towards instructions on checking out the plasmoids? Also what are they written in? I'm a Perl dev, but have some experience in C. |
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| 01:35.54 | Daskreech | bbeck: I think Folderwatch would probably be C++ but add #plasma to your IRc chans they are really friendly there |
| 01:36.08 | bbeck | Daskreech: thanks |
| 01:36.16 | Daskreech | spend two or three days going over the code and raising queries |
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| 01:37.38 | memem | I have no processor :) |
| 01:37.57 | memem | Processor Information . big fat blank |
| 01:38.16 | Daskreech | memem: That's impressive |
| 01:38.49 | memem | kewl prosessir ;) |
| 01:41.16 | corsair_ | Jucato: if you're still there, for some reason konversation wants to use opera, but i want it to go back to using konqueror |
| 01:42.14 | Jucato | corsair_: what is KDE set to use? |
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| 01:43.03 | corsair_ | Jucato: how do i find out? |
| 01:43.23 | Jucato | KDE 3 or 4? |
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| 01:45.19 | corsair_ | Jucato: i have both, but konvi is kde3 at the moment |
| 01:45.26 | Jucato | corsair_: KDE 3: KControl -> KDE Components -> Component Chooser -> Web Browser |
| 01:46.14 | corsair_ | Jucato: i don't see a component chooser |
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| 01:46.50 | Jucato | Default Applications? |
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| 01:46.59 | Jucato | I don't have KDE 3 at the moment |
| 01:47.16 | Ge_nod | query |
| 01:47.36 | Ge_nod | whois taupter |
| 01:47.38 | Jucato | corsair_: or run "kcmshell componentchooser" |
| 01:48.13 | corsair_ | Jucato: that just gives me a blank window |
| 01:48.21 | Jucato | weird... |
| 01:49.53 | Jucato | corsair_: what is Konversation's browser set to? |
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| 01:52.07 | corsair_ | Jucato: its unset |
| 01:52.38 | Jucato | not sure why you're missing the component chooser. in any case you can just set Konvi to use "konqueror" |
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| 01:57.00 | corsair_ | ahh, i think i got it, i have konqueror (kde4) installed, but not konqueror (kde3) |
| 01:57.32 | Jucato | :/ |
| 01:58.03 | corsair_ | oh well, sorted it i guess |
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| 02:09.26 | memem | hmm menu update tool 40 apps and none of them are in the menu |
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| 02:14.32 | Alumin | 2 questions about kpdf...1) is it possible to do incremental searching (ie, not search the whole PDF at once while you type) and 2) is there a normal text selection tool (as opposed to using the block selection tool) |
| 02:17.09 | Jucato | Alumin: 1. not sure what you mean. 2. nope. but there is in Okular (KDE 4) iirc |
| 02:17.27 | Alumin | 2. ok cool |
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| 02:17.53 | Alumin | the first thing, it's like, ok...say I have a gigantically huge PDF, like over 1000 pages |
| 02:18.19 | Alumin | and I type a search term...I have to wait for kpdf to search the entire 1000+ pages and then display the results instead of just seeking to the first one |
| 02:18.53 | Jucato | (it does?) |
| 02:19.02 | Daskreech | Yeah |
| 02:19.03 | Jucato | press '/' and then start typing |
| 02:19.18 | Daskreech | it highlights all of them I think with ^F |
| 02:19.36 | Alumin | I'm intrigued by your "/" theory...let me investigate |
| 02:20.55 | Alumin | hey that does work |
| 02:21.00 | Alumin | thanks! |
| 02:21.53 | Jucato | works in konqueror too btw |
| 02:24.07 | juliano | Ok... something weird now... I had a maximized window, covering the whole desktop, when konversation poped a notification balloon. I clicked the balloon, but the click was received by the desktop window, behind the application that was maximized... |
| 02:24.22 | juliano | That opened an icon on the desktop... |
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| 02:55.27 | SimonXu | Build kdelibs-3.5.4-3.5.4-16.el5.src.rpm of RHEL5 error. The error is http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=134212. I tried to add the patch in the bugzilla page, then got another error: config-dnssd.h: No such file or directory. Any idea? |
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| 02:59.03 | memem | wow 3.5.4 long time ago :) |
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| 02:59.43 | SimonXu | memem: But this is the newest kdelib package in RHEL5. |
| 02:59.53 | g2g591 | try RHEL 6 then? |
| 03:00.29 | SimonXu | RHEL6? |
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| 03:03.42 | g2g591 | no idea, |
| 03:04.31 | g2g591 | SimonXu: no idea about RHEL, but, man, that version is quite old, the latest 3.5 bugfix release is 3.5.9 |
| 03:04.48 | memem | thought people bought rhel because of its great support ;) |
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| 03:11.09 | Arv3n | Hello. |
| 03:11.14 | Arv3n | Is there a separate KDE 4.1 channel? |
| 03:11.26 | Jucato | Arv3n: nope |
| 03:11.53 | Arv3n | ok |
| 03:11.56 | Arv3n | so how is everyone enjoying kde 4.1? |
| 03:12.32 | Kraplax | hm.. pretty uch cool |
| 03:12.50 | Kraplax | but i suppose it's #kde-chat for such questions =) |
| 03:13.05 | Kraplax | wanna join? |
| 03:13.06 | Jucato | #kde for user support, #kde-chat for general chatter |
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| 03:14.21 | Arv3n | yes, kraplax, i do. |
| 03:15.09 | memem | well k3b is there a way to tell it not to compile with libdvdread. ? no cmake equivalent of --disable-blah |
| 03:16.05 | memem | weird how it used to look and not findit . then just compile with out it . But no --disable . It just did it on its own |
| 03:17.17 | Jucato | memem: if you don't have libdvdread, then the feature that depends on it isn't built. that simple |
| 03:17.41 | Jucato | it will just look for it and notify you if it wasn't found. and would continue since it's only optional |
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| 03:20.08 | memem | yes but now its wanting it , Where as it never used to it would just not compile it in |
| 03:20.41 | memem | no its stopping now becauuse it can't find it . thats the problem :) |
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| 03:36.09 | Daskreech | idle |
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| 03:47.19 | mdunphy | ok, if the "start menu" f dissapears, how do you get it back |
| 03:48.20 | derek_k | mdunphy: kde4x? add widget |
| 03:49.21 | mdunphy | ok, that put it on the desktop |
| 03:49.32 | mdunphy | how about the one on the 'taskbar' ? |
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| 03:50.12 | derek_k | mdunphy: click on the cashew thingy on the taskbar, and add widget |
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| 03:51.02 | mdunphy | aha |
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| 03:51.38 | drantin | cashew? |
| 03:51.46 | mdunphy | ok, now its at the wrong end |
| 03:52.25 | mdunphy | damnit this is non intuitive :o |
| 03:52.29 | derek_k | mdunphy: I think you can drag it from the dialog to where you want. Or run from latest svn and you can move it |
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| 03:54.13 | mdunphy | fuuuuuck |
| 03:54.39 | mdunphy | accidentally fullscreened this konversation |
| 03:54.49 | mdunphy | how to unfullscreen it? |
| 03:55.31 | mdunphy | short of power button... |
| 03:56.33 | Jucato | click on the "restore" button in the window border? |
| 03:56.43 | mdunphy | there is no border |
| 03:56.46 | mdunphy | on any side |
| 03:57.05 | mdunphy | alt tab, does nothing |
| 03:57.12 | Jucato | press Alt+F3 and uncheck the "Maximize" option? |
| 03:57.48 | mdunphy | its greyed out |
| 03:58.01 | mdunphy | aha, ok |
| 03:58.17 | mdunphy | unchecked fullscreen, thanks for alt+f3, i wouldnt have guessed alt+f3 |
| 03:59.33 | mdunphy | what does the star and the red line mean in add widgets |
| 04:01.48 | mdunphy | has an excellent idea |
| 04:01.49 | mdunphy | GNOME |
| 04:01.50 | mdunphy | bbl |
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| 04:34.52 | Jester45 | is there a good web browser for kde? i dont like Konqueror and firefox doesnt seem to support qt |
| 04:36.23 | MuJ | if you don't mind it being closed source, try opera |
| 04:36.38 | zz | lynx? |
| 04:36.48 | Jester45 | is it pretty fast? |
| 04:37.06 | Jester45 | prefers gui browsing |
| 04:37.06 | MuJ | likes links-g |
| 04:37.08 | [TSK] | zz: links is better'n lynx. ;) |
| 04:37.09 | zz | lynx? i would say so since it doesnt render any graphics lol |
| 04:37.24 | zz | yeah that one |
| 04:37.33 | zz | i knew of the two just not which one was better lol |
| 04:37.39 | [TSK] | links-graphic? |
| 04:37.41 | Jester45 | what about w3m |
| 04:38.52 | MuJ | [TSK]: yeah, it shows you images.. \o/ |
| 04:38.57 | [TSK] | Aye. :) |
| 04:39.32 | [TSK] | links-graphic is nice if you like lightning fast web browsing and nothing much more. ;) |
| 04:39.39 | MuJ | If I could access my school server with it I'd use it all the time :D |
| 04:39.54 | Jester45 | is there a disto with kde4 as the defualt? |
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| 04:40.23 | Jester45 | im trying to decide between staying with gtk or move to qt/kde |
| 04:41.15 | Jester45 | im going to try the opensuse kde4 live cd |
| 04:41.23 | URBrainwashed | ' |
| 04:41.26 | Daskreech | Jester45: Suse has a live Cd that's nice |
| 04:43.08 | Jester45 | ive tried kde before but couldnt stand the K names in 3 and in 4 thats ssupposed to be better |
| 04:43.18 | Jester45 | gnome is getting just about as bad |
| 04:43.37 | [TSK] | Odd. Kopete is using 86% CPU time for some strange reason. One sec. BRB. |
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| 04:46.15 | [TSK] | That was bizarre. All fixed now tho. Had to restart Kopete. |
| 04:47.09 | memem | whats can I search for at the bugs page kde4. clicking on the panel clock and just getting the boarders and iirc should be the calander |
| 04:48.00 | [TSK] | memem: Aye, it should indeed be the calendar. That's what I get on mine anywho. Also when I click on the desktop clock widget as well. |
| 04:48.29 | memem | juat the boarder or you get the calander? |
| 04:49.11 | memem | juat/just |
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| 04:51.33 | [TSK] | I get the calendar as should you. If all you get is the border, then you've got a bug somewhere of some kind. ;) |
| 04:53.47 | memem | ok on that one I have 4.0.99 . I'll look threw my build log just to make sure it there was no error . but what would that be in .hmm |
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| 04:56.22 | memem | <[TSK]> can you change the format from armyto am/pm or that just not done yet |
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| 04:57.03 | [TSK] | Mine defaulted to AM/PM |
| 04:57.26 | [TSK] | Haven't changed it yet to 24 hour clock. |
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| 04:57.46 | memem | really . I can't even find how to change it amd mine went to the 24hr :( |
| 04:57.52 | cygwinports | I've got a couple of errors building smoke in RC1: "base ... with only non-default constructor in class without a constructor"; what do I look for to fix? |
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| 04:58.25 | memem | whats verison of kde4 you using ? |
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| 04:58.43 | [TSK] | I'm using KDE4.0.98 from Mandriva Cooker |
| 04:59.10 | [TSK] | When I run it, that is. Right this instant I'm in "old faithful" KDE3.5.9... ;) |
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| 05:00.39 | memem | hmm never did try .98 so dunno if it worked in that . |
| 05:01.01 | Jucato | memem: System Settings -> Regional & Language |
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| 05:02.19 | memem | ah ok thanks will look there . never thought of that one used right click on the clock and then setting date & time |
| 05:03.26 | memem | ah that looks familair . that was in the right click in 3.5.9 |
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| 05:06.13 | [TSK] | BRB. Gotta restart X |
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| 05:07.58 | memem | whoops I removed my panel . how do I get new panel to the bttom agian O.o |
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| 05:09.03 | Jucato | Panel Settings, drag the "configuration bar" to where you want the panel to be |
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| 05:09.54 | memem | thanks |
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| 05:25.09 | memem | hmm even after redoing the panel the clock is still in 24r mode |
| 05:25.12 | cygwinports | anyone can help with smoke in RC1? |
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| 05:25.36 | memem | checked the reg.& lang. setting and its still set to AMPM |
| 05:30.58 | Jucato | memem: it doesn't update automatically.. there's some delay |
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| 05:31.43 | memem | still hasn't maybe its part of the resaon I'm not getting the calander to eh? |
| 05:32.15 | Jucato | maybe |
| 05:33.08 | memem | whast is the accual name of the clock/calander . so I can grep the package and go from there . |
| 05:33.38 | Jucato | well it does say that the changes to the clock will affect only newly started apps... so unless you've logged out... |
| 05:34.44 | Jucato | you either have to restart plasma or logout (just like in KDE 3.5) |
| 05:34.53 | Jucato | it's the digital clock plasmoid/applet |
| 05:35.05 | memem | ah plasma instead of kicker eh |
| 05:35.31 | Jucato | of course. since "there is no kicker" |
| 05:35.39 | nogagplz | kicker... |
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| 05:35.51 | Jucato | you didn't read the KDE 4 guide like I suggested, did you? |
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| 06:05.08 | memem | hmm had to go but this should do it right plasma & from konsole |
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| 06:07.09 | marcusU | When I open an audio CD in Konqueror (3.5.x), I have various types of directories like "Ogg Vorbis." How do I control the encoding parameters (like bitrate) that the files in there are encoded with? |
| 06:09.10 | Mirrakor | when should 4.1 be relased? |
| 06:09.36 | Mirrakor | marcusU: it's a KIO slave thing |
| 06:09.42 | Jucato | Mirrakor: end of the mont |
| 06:10.02 | Jucato | marcusU: don't have KDE 3 right now, but I believe there are options in KControl -> Sound & Multimedia -> Audio CD |
| 06:10.09 | Jucato | "month" |
| 06:10.11 | memem | iirc on the page it said 29th |
| 06:10.26 | marcusU | Mirrakor: Okay. I think I found it, but it does not have a lot of options. |
| 06:10.28 | Jucato | (which is at the end of the month....) |
| 06:10.45 | Mirrakor | thanks :) |
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| 06:10.46 | memem | :) |
| 06:10.59 | Mirrakor | I'm waiting to see akonadi in action |
| 06:10.59 | marcusU | I'm waiting for new hardware before I install new software, and I'm waiting for $$$ for that. |
| 06:11.20 | Mirrakor | don't tell us you're waiting for a job to get that $$$ too |
| 06:11.27 | memem | I want a new mobo/cpu and pci video :) |
| 06:11.35 | marcusU | Mirrakor: Yes. |
| 06:11.40 | Jucato | Mirrakor: you'll have to wait a bit for one more release |
| 06:12.02 | memem | got the 3GB ram just need the rest. this asrock 755i65G is crsppy |
| 06:12.08 | memem | crappy* |
| 06:12.31 | marcusU | Maybe my motherboard chipset will die soon, and I will have to get new hardware. |
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| 06:13.26 | memem | 2GB* |
| 06:13.30 | trampolin | wth with ark? |
| 06:13.40 | trampolin | it doesn't exctract folders |
| 06:13.42 | Daskreech | cygwinports: smoke? |
| 06:13.56 | trampolin | just extract all files w/o any order |
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| 06:14.28 | cygwinports | Daskreech: yes, I'm getting errors with smokephonon and smokesolid (4.0.99) |
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| 06:14.57 | memem | whats did you do to test that ? I have 4.0.99 |
| 06:14.58 | cygwinports | Daskreech: "base ... with only non-default constructor in class without a constructor" |
| 06:15.18 | Jucato | kdebindings stuff |
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| 06:22.04 | memem | must be that calander not working for plasma & not to restart the clock eh |
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| 07:05.28 | Exilant | is it possible in kde 4 to map something like windows-key + scroll wheel to the zoom function? |
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| 07:07.43 | memem | http://pastebin.com/md1ce907 no luck googling :( |
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| 07:21.07 | Exilant | i can map win(meta)-Z or so, but i don't know how to map the scroll wheel + some modifier key |
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| 07:30.10 | Phlogi_ | ok using cdrecord by hand is even faster :D |
| 07:30.20 | memem | kdeplasmoids I don't see that in http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/KDE/ . it just kdeplasma-addons/ now ? |
| 07:30.20 | sandsmark | Phlogi_: that's what I ended up doing |
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| 07:30.34 | Phlogi_ | sandsmark: for burning an iso its too easy :D |
| 07:30.36 | sandsmark | Phlogi_: trying to burn an ISO with k3b, it just hanged |
| 07:30.44 | Phlogi_ | sandsmark: same here ;) |
| 07:30.54 | Phlogi_ | it hanged after I chose what settings to use for default |
| 07:30.59 | sandsmark | yup, same here |
| 07:31.07 | sandsmark | I guess it really isn't finished yet =p |
| 07:31.08 | Phlogi_ | I'm missing an option for autospeed on cdrecord though |
| 07:31.24 | supert0nes | why doesn't kopete allow me to add myself to the contact list? |
| 07:31.37 | sandsmark | supert0nes: because that is silly =) |
| 07:31.57 | supert0nes | i dont care its how i open blank windows and such |
| 07:32.02 | supert0nes | and its a bug |
| 07:32.19 | supert0nes | aim protocol allows it |
| 07:32.32 | sandsmark | iirc, kopete used to allow it |
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| 07:32.55 | sandsmark | so if it's removed, I suspect it is on purpose (the nature of the thing taken into account =) |
| 07:33.40 | supert0nes | arrrr back to pidgin |
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| 07:34.41 | supert0nes | the problem is that i have my name on my account so every single time i sign in it alerts me that i can't do something the server has already impelented |
| 07:34.56 | xevix | I wanted to try "remove this desktop" option to see what it did. How do I recreate the desktop? kde 4.1, kubuntu 8.04. |
| 07:35.34 | blauzahl | supert0nes: maybe the just didn't write it yet |
| 07:35.35 | sandsmark | xevix: where did you find that? |
| 07:35.37 | parada | supert0nes: tried modifyting notification settings? |
| 07:35.45 | xevix | sandsmark, right-clicked on the desktop, it was an option |
| 07:36.12 | supert0nes | i'll look into the notifications |
| 07:36.13 | sandsmark | xevix: I don't have that here, so I suppose it's a kubuntu specific option, try in #kubuntu-kde4 |
| 07:36.26 | xevix | sandsmark, ok, thanks |
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| 07:38.26 | cygwinports | I'm new to KDE4 (but not to 3); are there two different phonon's? |
| 07:39.29 | sandsmark | cygwinports: yes, at least two =) |
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| 07:39.38 | Phlogi_ | http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=165137 <- thanks for any votes on this bug |
| 07:39.40 | sandsmark | cygwinports: or, different versions at least |
| 07:39.53 | sandsmark | cygwinports: use the one from kdesupport |
| 07:40.19 | cygwinports | sandsmark: straight from SVN? how will it be packaged for 4.1.0? |
| 07:41.00 | sandsmark | well, they'll hopefully release a version to go with 4.1, but I don't think I've seen it yet |
| 07:41.40 | cygwinports | sandsmark: that would explain why I'm having so much difficulty with phonon in kdebindings |
| 07:41.53 | sandsmark | maybe =) |
| 07:42.55 | cygwinports | sandsmark: so what's the point of shipping it with qt? |
| 07:43.20 | pinotree | because phonon is now also a qt product? |
| 07:43.26 | Phlogi_ | sandsmark: now the cd is not bootable... did I miss an option do you know that? |
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| 07:44.01 | cygwinports | or better, what's the point of shipping an old version of phonon in qt?? |
| 07:44.14 | sandsmark | Phlogi_: I don't think so, are you sure the ISO was proper? |
| 07:44.30 | sandsmark | cygwinports: because that was (is) the latest release, when they shipped that version of qt? |
| 07:44.53 | Phlogi_ | sandsmark: the contents are on it...but it just does not boot |
| 07:45.10 | cygwinports | sandsmark: is qt-4.4.1 due before KDE4.1? will it have a current phonon (and webkit)? |
| 07:45.18 | pinotree | no |
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| 07:45.38 | pinotree | qt 4.4.x ships phonon v4.1.x |
| 07:45.54 | pinotree | kde 4.1 *requires* phonon 4.2 |
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| 07:47.04 | cygwinports | pinotree: I see. trunk is still KDE4.1, right? |
| 07:47.09 | pinotree | no |
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| 07:47.48 | blauzahl | KDE 4.1.60 (KDE 4.2 >= 20080709 <----what it claimed to be for me that day ;) |
| 07:48.01 | xevix | sandsmark, hahah, here it is: http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.kde.devel.panel/5883 |
| 07:49.13 | blauzahl | define "current"? there will always be developer repositories that will be the "most current"... |
| 07:49.21 | cygwinports | pinotree: but in branches/kdesupport there is only 3.5. |
| 07:49.35 | pinotree | ??? |
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| 07:49.50 | atomopawn | Heh! What a great bug. Good one, xevix! |
| 07:50.04 | xevix | supposedly seigo fixed this already in february or so, but it must be a regression |
| 07:50.42 | sandsmark | xevix: as I said, I don't have it in rc1, which version are you using? |
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| 07:51.14 | xevix | sandsmark, RC1, 4.00.98 |
| 07:51.31 | xevix | try adding an applet to the desktop, then removing the applet |
| 07:51.34 | xevix | then try right-clicking on the desktop |
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| 07:52.44 | cygwinports | ok, so which branch/tag/rev of phonon SHOULD I be using?? |
| 07:53.21 | cygwinports | for KDE 4.1 that is |
| 07:53.22 | xevix | hahaha, even more brilliant, i tried running "kdesktop" to make it work and the kde3 version is what came up =p |
| 07:53.24 | sandsmark | xevix: still nothing |
| 07:53.34 | sandsmark | xevix: of course, kdesktop doesn't exist in kde 4 |
| 07:53.40 | xevix | right |
| 07:53.49 | xevix | i'm just trying to figure out which program runs the desktop again |
| 07:53.55 | sandsmark | plasma? |
| 07:53.57 | xevix | i guess i'll try restarting plasma |
| 07:54.11 | xevix | well, plasma's still running is the thing, on the bottom right |
| 07:54.15 | pinotree | cygwinports: branches/phonon/4.2 |
| 07:54.17 | xevix | but yeah, let's try that |
| 07:55.11 | cygwinports | pinotree: ok, got it now, thanks! |
| 07:55.12 | sandsmark | xevix: try removing your plasma config, and ask in #kubuntu-kde4, since this seems to be specific to their packages, and I don't know their locale kde prefix (~/.kdesomething) |
| 07:56.16 | xevix | sandsmark, yeah, might be the only thing to do. having fun after restarting plasma here |
| 07:56.41 | sandsmark | *%s,locale,local,g |
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| 07:57.26 | xevix | guess i'll brb |
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| 08:01.17 | xevix | must've been a glitch |
| 08:04.11 | supert0nes | hah that kopete bug is #20 on the most hated bugs |
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| 08:07.57 | Phlogi_ | supert0nes: which bug? |
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| 08:08.17 | supert0nes | well some say its not a bug but the can't add self to contact list |
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| 08:15.28 | blauzahl | supert0nes: so join bugsquad and help triage kopete :P |
| 08:15.46 | blauzahl | it saves developer time, and if you can't code, its the best thing you can do to help |
| 08:16.14 | blauzahl | otherwise, you're talking about people who are coding and have jobs and newborns. |
| 08:16.44 | blauzahl | i think you should be glad they are bothering to work on kde at all.... |
| 08:17.15 | supert0nes | this is a difference in opinion 3 years old where the answer was theres no reason to allow you to add yourself to the contact list |
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| 08:19.23 | blauzahl | supert0nes: that sentence didn't translate. |
| 08:19.38 | blauzahl | i'm saying that if you want to be helpful, you can be. |
| 08:20.02 | blauzahl | having gone through plenty of the kopete bugs, i think there are more important things for them to work on. |
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| 08:21.09 | blauzahl | you could also offer babysitting services :D |
| 08:21.24 | supert0nes | i am in college programming right now so chill out just a touch |
| 08:21.31 | blauzahl | so submit a patch ;) |
| 08:22.07 | supert0nes | also this bug gets more votes than any other kopete bug combined, or has that system been abandoned? |
| 08:22.27 | blauzahl | if you think it is important, submit a patch to the mailing list |
| 08:22.45 | blauzahl | developers don't necessarily fix the thing with the most votes first |
| 08:23.01 | blauzahl | wouldn't you agree that common crashes are more important? |
| 08:23.16 | supert0nes | depends on the age of the bug |
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| 08:23.35 | parada | kopete has many bug back in 2004 |
| 08:23.40 | parada | don't know if older |
| 08:23.49 | blauzahl | well, that is true for most of kde |
| 08:24.02 | blauzahl | join bugsquad, learn how to triage bugs, help kde. |
| 08:24.26 | blauzahl | older bugs may be harder to fix, or they have just gotten lost |
| 08:24.28 | parada | kopete is not a big app, is't easy to understand code |
| 08:24.44 | blauzahl | triage means the bugs are easier to go through/find/etc |
| 08:24.51 | blauzahl | it is or isn't easy? |
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| 08:24.59 | parada | it is, sorry |
| 08:25.20 | blauzahl | afaik, they have no paid developers. most of kde doesn't. |
| 08:25.58 | blauzahl | i think two (at least one) have newborn babies. and i don't think they have very many developers to begin with. |
| 08:26.13 | blauzahl | i.e. like many parts of kde, they are shortstaffed. |
| 08:26.15 | Jucato | it's easy to undertand the code... hm... so easy that probably you can just implement the feature or fix that you need |
| 08:26.17 | blauzahl | they would welcome help |
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| 08:27.02 | blauzahl | the ones i know are no longer college students. they work full-time jobs. they have babies. ---> much less time to work on kopete |
| 08:27.03 | Jucato | parada: I bet the kopete team could use your help and would very much welcome it |
| 08:27.13 | blauzahl | do you understand this? |
| 08:27.19 | blauzahl | they are also very nice people |
| 08:27.21 | Jucato | join #kopete to help! :) |
| 08:27.23 | blauzahl | #kopete |
| 08:27.34 | supert0nes | i don't care that much, its really not getting that much in a big fuz about, i thought it was as dumb feature looked back at some request for it and saw a terrible response thats all i dont care about kopete that much anyways |
| 08:27.46 | blauzahl | then why are you complaining? geez |
| 08:28.10 | parada | Jucato: it is supert0nes who is requesting. i got people requesting me to fix things in other projects |
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| 08:28.23 | sandsmark | =) |
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| 08:28.39 | blauzahl | "i saw a terrible response" ---> common complaint. so feel free to help. :P |
| 08:28.49 | blauzahl | parada: thank you :) |
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| 08:29.06 | kriko | supert0nes: can you tell me bug nr.? To see exactly what is about |
| 08:29.31 | supert0nes | 133621 |
| 08:29.40 | pythonxxx | Hi. |
| 08:29.53 | blauzahl | if anyone is curious, you can look at a nice summary of current kopete bugs on the bugsquad bugday pages |
| 08:30.05 | pythonxxx | How to print an environment variable with kdialog ? |
| 08:30.27 | bgmiki | some1 know how to add picture in contact plasma applet |
| 08:30.55 | Jucato | pythonxxx: "kdialog --msgbox $FOO" doesn't work? |
| 08:31.02 | blauzahl | we've knocked kopete from #5 ---> #7 in the list of most open bugs ;) and that will go lower after we close things that didn't get a response. |
| 08:31.11 | pinotree | kdialog --msgbox "$HOME" |
| 08:31.20 | Jucato | oh right.. the dreaded "" :) |
| 08:31.21 | Jucato | sorry |
| 08:31.31 | bgmiki | Jucato: bug with taglib is fix.... |
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| 08:31.40 | Jucato | always forgets to quote |
| 08:31.43 | Jucato | bgmiki: oh what was the fix? |
| 08:32.01 | kriko | supert0nes: unable to help from my side â not using aim |
| 08:32.18 | bgmiki | never mind...we talk about this yesterday |
| 08:32.23 | memem | where is kdeplasmoids ? I see the kdeplasma-addons |
| 08:32.30 | Jucato | memem: that's it |
| 08:32.40 | Jucato | bgmiki: yeah I know you just disabled building juk. I thought you got a real fix :) |
| 08:32.47 | sandsmark | memem: they renamede it |
| 08:32.50 | sandsmark | *renamed |
| 08:32.51 | memem | ah ok thanks |
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| 08:33.00 | supert0nes | hey np thanks i didn't want to ruffle too many feathers with that request. I just raises a dialog if i sign in but no biggie |
| 08:33.13 | bgmiki | no problem was linking taglib...someone fix this in trunk |
| 08:33.38 | pythonxxx | Ok, thanks Jucato |
| 08:33.56 | kriko | supert0nes: well it is an issue |
| 08:34.01 | Jucato | bgmiki: ah good :) |
| 08:34.11 | kriko | I'll rause some dust on #kopete, but later |
| 08:34.14 | kriko | *raise |
| 08:34.40 | bgmiki | still i have bug with networkmanager but i don't know who is devel... for this |
| 08:34.45 | blauzahl | #kde-bugs has links to bugsquad's work on kopete atm in the topic |
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| 08:35.41 | supert0nes | i accidentally installed the untested networkmanager stuff for kubuntu yikes that was fun heh |
| 08:36.22 | blauzahl | bgmiki: who is getting the bugs in bugzilla? |
| 08:37.19 | bgmiki | huh ...i know but this bug is not for bugzilla |
| 08:37.32 | bgmiki | maybe ubuntu bug |
| 08:37.45 | Jucato | network manager or knetworkmanager? |
| 08:38.00 | bgmiki | knetworkmanager 0.7 |
| 08:38.24 | Jucato | I believe there's a "knetworkmanager" product in bugzilla... and it gets assigned to opensuse developers maybe? |
| 08:38.55 | bgmiki | ok ..maybe i find something |
| 08:39.37 | bgmiki | intrepid looks better with kde4 then hardy |
| 08:40.12 | martijn81 | how to enable an subtitle in dragon player? |
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| 08:40.27 | parada | is 0.7 stable? 0.2.2 are last source release |
| 08:40.29 | sigma | why does dolphin display a trash size of "unknown"? shouldnt it just be the size of the trash folder? |
| 08:40.58 | Jucato | martijn81: Settings -> Subtitles |
| 08:41.41 | parada | seems that opensuse released binary but not sources so others distros still use 0.2.2 |
| 08:41.52 | ^^MAg^^ | Hi, anyone made akregator work with google reader? |
| 08:42.24 | parada | *other |
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| 08:49.10 | martijn81 | Jucato: i know, but my srt subtitle does not get recognized |
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| 08:50.09 | sandsmark | martijn81: try renaming it, so if your movie is called foo_bar-baz.avi, your subtitle is called foo_bar-baz.srt |
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| 08:51.31 | martijn81 | sandsmark: already tried that |
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| 08:54.40 | miwi | moin |
| 08:55.01 | sandsmark | moinmoin |
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| 08:58.19 | t|zz | what could be the problem that i can't start konqueror any more? when i start it in console it just doesn't say anything and nothing happens, when i hit ctrl+c i can abort it. as a new user i can start konqueror, but not as my default user. what could be the problem? i don't use kde, but xfce |
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| 09:00.47 | blauzahl | t|zz: sounds like you messed up your settings somehow |
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| 09:02.24 | martijn81 | yeah just delete your config folder |
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| 09:06.13 | parada | who was talking about akregator? |
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| 09:08.45 | thefish_ | hello |
| 09:09.06 | martijn81 | hi the |
| 09:09.12 | martijn81 | hi thefish_ |
| 09:09.15 | thefish_ | can anyone point me in the right direction for syncing kontact with scheduleworld/my.funambol? |
| 09:09.29 | thefish_ | hey martijn81 :) |
| 09:09.40 | parada | ^^MAg^^: are u there? |
| 09:09.50 | martijn81 | hmm dunno what that is |
| 09:10.30 | thefish_ | martijn81: its pretty cool - funambol can sync with loads of devices/software |
| 09:10.46 | thefish_ | i just want to have my phone and laptop synced with contacts and calendar |
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| 09:13.12 | J-23 | Hi! |
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| 09:13.59 | J-23 | 'll try to compile and use KDE from SVN... |
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| 09:17.24 | hishuu | offtopic |
| 09:17.31 | hishuu | but anyone know how to get grub to boot from cd |
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| 09:17.39 | pinotree | hishuu: ##linux |
| 09:18.19 | J-23 | hishuu: or #grub |
| 09:19.12 | hishuu | thanks you guys |
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| 09:23.20 | cygwinports | ok, I built branches/phonon/4.2, but it won't find the gstreamer backend unless I move it from /usr/lib/kde4/plugins to /usr/lib/qt4/plugins. Yet the services file would expect it in /usr/lib/kde4/plugins (although phonon is qt-only). Which is correct? |
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| 09:24.36 | pookey | hi all - how do I reorder widgets in my bottom pannel (where the 'k' menu is)? |
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| 09:26.57 | memem | hmm konsole in mcedit kde3 I use ctrl+page down to goto the bottm of the page . But now its changing tabs on me |
| 09:27.06 | memem | hmm ctrl home end |
| 09:27.48 | benJIman | dddddddddddddddd |
| 09:27.55 | benJIman | Oops |
| 09:29.04 | memem | my most used keys are a and s . a has no printing left on it ;) |
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| 09:31.21 | memem | http://pastebin.com/m5de3e486 k3b |
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| 09:41.30 | memem | ? |
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| 10:26.55 | J-23 | Are there any "full" SVN snapshots - with ".svn" directories? |
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| 10:31.06 | J-23 | ok, I found. |
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| 10:41.38 | thefish_ | in kde 4.1 is there a way to configure a vertical panel to have a task manager with *just* icons? I tried a vertical panel and cant see what apps are running cos it stretches them. Similar to the old "kasbar" would be perfect! |
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| 10:44.31 | juanra | hi |
| 10:44.45 | juanra | how can i manage wireless in kde 4.1 with nm backend?? |
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| 10:45.37 | J-23 | are there any trunk snapshots? |
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| 10:54.31 | memem | how is it you see all the cmake option the app has again ? |
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| 10:55.27 | kriko | KDE 4.1 - quick access applet doesn't remember its size between sessions. Is this knows bug? |
| 10:55.29 | kriko | *known |
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| 10:57.35 | memem | is it run cmake then ccmake . |
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| 10:59.02 | orbital_fox | hello |
| 10:59.16 | orbital_fox | i recentrly installed kde4 from gnome in ubuntu |
| 10:59.40 | martijn81 | orbital_fox: and you like it? |
| 10:59.56 | orbital_fox | i seem to lack total support for harware though: no sound (anywhere), no network interfaces etc |
| 11:00.15 | orbital_fox | the graphics are pretty good allthough a bit glossy for me :P |
| 11:00.29 | orbital_fox | but ill make an overall opinion once i get it working right |
| 11:00.32 | sandsmark | orbital_fox: the hardware support is supposed to come from your distro |
| 11:00.56 | orbital_fox | i understand that, and pretty much my kernel sees everything, its just that kde doesnt seem to see it |
| 11:01.11 | orbital_fox | i set up my net config using gnome apps |
| 11:01.24 | martijn81 | orbital_fox: i would try my hardware support with a live-cd (kubuntu has one 8.04.1 kde4 on their servers) |
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| 11:01.36 | orbital_fox | but the network-admin sees all my interfaces while networkmanager doesnt see any |
| 11:01.48 | orbital_fox | i see |
| 11:01.49 | sandsmark | well, I have sound here |
| 11:02.11 | sandsmark | and my distro supplies configuration tools for networking (as do opensuse, afaik) |
| 11:02.20 | orbital_fox | im sure kde can do it and its totally my fault sandsmark but i dont know where to start looking from, im just a gnome user ;) |
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| 11:03.43 | orbital_fox | btw, is kdbus necessary? |
| 11:05.00 | martijn81 | dunno |
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| 11:07.53 | orbital_fox | anyways, gonna switch back to gnome for now |
| 11:07.55 | orbital_fox | thanks for the support |
| 11:08.15 | Pixeltime | orbital_fox: You using 4.1 ? |
| 11:08.26 | orbital_fox | yes |
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| 11:08.38 | Pixeltime | and need to set up networking ? |
| 11:08.40 | orbital_fox | or 4 im nor sure |
| 11:08.45 | orbital_fox | networking and sound |
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| 11:09.47 | Pixeltime | Ubuntu ? |
| 11:09.53 | orbital_fox | yep |
| 11:10.16 | Pixeltime | have you tried the live CD ? |
| 11:10.27 | Pixeltime | to see if it sees it all ? |
| 11:10.27 | orbital_fox | nope |
| 11:10.39 | orbital_fox | but my system sees it |
| 11:10.43 | orbital_fox | kde doesnt see it |
| 11:10.44 | Pixeltime | I know your problem, going from Gnome |
| 11:10.55 | orbital_fox | yeah |
| 11:10.57 | Pixeltime | Can I recommend something |
| 11:11.06 | orbital_fox | sure |
| 11:11.06 | Pixeltime | I did the same thing |
| 11:11.35 | Pixeltime | Transitioning from Gnome is no fun, Get a OpenSuse Live CD and try it |
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| 11:12.26 | orbital_fox | i see |
| 11:12.33 | orbital_fox | well im really happy with gnome to be honest |
| 11:12.43 | orbital_fox | i minimalist in philosophy |
| 11:12.50 | Pixeltime | understand that, I go back to it all the time ;) |
| 11:12.55 | orbital_fox | just wanted ta quick try of kde |
| 11:13.11 | orbital_fox | but reinstalling a distro doesnt sound very viable right now |
| 11:13.19 | Pixeltime | or get the LiveCD of Kubuntu |
| 11:13.31 | Pixeltime | LiveCD is no install |
| 11:13.47 | orbital_fox | i know but whats the point |
| 11:14.04 | orbital_fox | if i like kde, ill have to install it from synaptic |
| 11:14.09 | Jucato | there's no LiveCD of 4.1 from Kubuntu... and I don't recommend trying 4.0 at this point :) |
| 11:14.11 | Pixeltime | to see if it autodetects your hardware |
| 11:14.32 | Jucato | orbital_fox: you might want to ask in #kubuntu-kde4 as well. some people might have had similar issues |
| 11:14.47 | orbital_fox | okies |
| 11:15.19 | Pixeltime | if you DO want to try KDE 4.1 I HIGHLY recommend OpenSuse right now for it, its LOTS more mature in 4.1 then Ubuntu's is at the moment |
| 11:16.49 | orbital_fox | i would to that if i had time |
| 11:16.59 | Jucato | considering that 4.1 isn't released yet... that's a bit premature... but let's keep the distro vs. distro topic out |
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| 11:17.43 | orbital_fox | im not sure if its the 4.1 i got or 4.0 |
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| 11:17.58 | Pixeltime | Help, About KDE |
| 11:18.07 | Pixeltime | will tell ya |
| 11:18.19 | Jucato | not in Konversation though... |
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| 11:22.20 | orbital_fox | ok i got 4.0.3 |
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| 11:28.47 | memem | weird my keyboard quit working all of a sudden |
| 11:30.49 | Pixeltime | My e key did that yesterday too |
| 11:30.56 | Pixeltime | very wierd |
| 11:31.09 | memem | my whoile kb :) |
| 11:31.20 | Pixeltime | I just lost a vowel ;) |
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| 11:31.39 | memem | not even the leds |
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| 11:32.05 | Pixeltime | mine can back after a restart |
| 11:32.20 | memem | yeha I just did thta too ;) |
| 11:32.24 | Pixeltime | good thing too, there are e's in my password ! |
| 11:32.36 | memem | sucks thou when your doing a few things |
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| 11:36.04 | kdepepo | Pixeltime, the "e" bug has long been fixed... |
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| 11:36.45 | Pixeltime | there was a E bug ? |
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| 11:37.43 | kdepepo | yes, because something was mapped to "Win+E", and the "Win" modifier was not parsed. |
| 11:38.04 | Pixeltime | well, it came back yesterday here |
| 11:38.15 | Pixeltime | if it was the same bug |
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| 11:44.07 | memem | kde 4.0.98 I have then deps from svn or most of them |
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| 11:47.43 | thomasa88 | Hi, what arguments should I give to cmake to place a plasmoid in my ~? (-DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=~/.kde makes it show up in the list but when adding it says: Could not find requested component) |
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| 11:56.55 | pinotree | thomasa88: do not use ~ but $HOME |
| 11:57.21 | pinotree | it seems cmake does not do tilde expansion |
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| 11:57.49 | thomasa88 | pinotree: uhm, I changed it to /home/user, forgot to mention that, it still cant find the .so it seems |
| 11:58.02 | pinotree | did you run kbuildsycoca4? |
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| 12:00.28 | thomasa88 | no, I just throwed it in as a packaged with importare, works when placed in / |
| 12:00.43 | thomasa88 | maybe kde doesnt look in ~ or the so must be in another folder |
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| 12:03.35 | thomasa88 | ops, thought I was in gentoo-specific channel, anyways, works when put in / but not in $HOME |
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| 12:10.02 | pookey | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:10.20 | thomasa88 | pookey: right click and select panel settings |
| 12:10.30 | thomasa88 | pookey: then you can move them by dragging them |
| 12:10.58 | pookey | that doesnt seem to work for me.. as soon as I click on the clock for example, the calander pops up |
| 12:11.13 | thomasa88 | pookey: hmm, are you running kde3 or 4? |
| 12:11.23 | pookey | oh, I thought I was in #kde4 :) |
| 12:11.31 | thomasa88 | well I said for 4 ;) |
| 12:11.36 | thomasa88 | try to click between them |
| 12:11.56 | thomasa88 | ie try to hit the panel |
| 12:12.17 | pookey | nope, I get the group select style thing, the blue alpha-transparent box that you use for selecting multiple icons..... |
| 12:12.21 | pookey | if you know what Imean :) |
| 12:12.24 | sandsmark | and "Panel settings", not for example task manager settings |
| 12:12.38 | pookey | yyep, within which I have 'size', and 'location' settings.. |
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| 12:12.48 | sandsmark | pookey: which version are you running? |
| 12:12.56 | thomasa88 | *confused* =) |
| 12:13.06 | pookey | whatever it is ubuntu gives, one sec... |
| 12:13.06 | sandsmark | too |
| 12:13.17 | pookey | 4.0.3 |
| 12:13.32 | sandsmark | oh, moving stuff comes in 4.1 |
| 12:13.36 | thomasa88 | :P |
| 12:13.57 | pookey | oh damn it, I have my clock on the left cos I accidently removed task manager, and had to add it back |
| 12:14.01 | pookey | it's amazingly annoying ;) |
| 12:14.02 | thomasa88 | I suppose there is some config file, if anyone knows where it is :P |
| 12:14.34 | sandsmark | pookey: you should really try 4.1, with rc1 it is more stable than 4.0, imho |
| 12:14.50 | pookey | sandsmark: do you know if there's .debs for it? |
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| 12:14.53 | sandsmark | and it is generally A LOT better than 4.0, at least for end users |
| 12:14.56 | thomasa88 | (in ~/.kde/share/config/ somewhere maybe) |
| 12:15.00 | sandsmark | pookey: yes, there are many providers of it |
| 12:15.11 | sandsmark | pookey: go and click on the large, topmost link on kubuntu.org =) |
| 12:15.39 | pookey | hm, well they don't make that obvious do they! ;) |
| 12:15.47 | sandsmark | ;p |
| 12:15.55 | pookey | it's blue, it blends in.. red woudl have been better obviously ;) |
| 12:16.05 | thomasa88 | XD |
| 12:16.09 | sandsmark | and maybe a <marquee> and <blink>? =) |
| 12:16.17 | thomasa88 | ='( |
| 12:16.21 | pookey | definatly, blink is SO under used |
| 12:16.28 | pookey | maybe some kinda swishy flash thing too |
| 12:16.33 | sandsmark | with sound |
| 12:16.34 | thomasa88 | only netscape support huh |
| 12:16.44 | thomasa88 | haha |
| 12:16.49 | thomasa88 | when flash is not working :P |
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| 12:17.16 | pookey | 66 upgraded, 29 newly installed, 2 to remove and 0 not upgraded. looks promising, thanks guys :) |
| 12:17.36 | sandsmark | np =) |
| 12:18.30 | thomasa88 | argh, I want to install my compiled plasmoids to my ~ =( |
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| 12:20.24 | vorad | hi, is there a way I can resize the krdc window? I have a screen resolution of 1680 x 1050 and the krdc window looks really small |
| 12:20.44 | sandsmark | don't you select that when you connect? |
| 12:21.14 | pookey | it scales doesn't it? |
| 12:21.49 | vorad | sandsmark: yes, but it has no effect |
| 12:23.11 | vorad | pookey: how do you mean? it's the same size for me independent of the resolution I choose |
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| 12:24.09 | vorad | maybe I am being stupid here, 'cause with xvncviewer is the same size also ... |
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| 12:24.37 | sandsmark | probably the server you connect to, then |
| 12:25.59 | pookey | sandsmark: I've moved my clock!! :D |
| 12:26.09 | pookey | this is a big occasion for me |
| 12:26.32 | sandsmark | pookey: =D |
| 12:26.33 | sandsmark | hehe |
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| 12:27.52 | pookey | what is the default window decoration within KDE4.1/ |
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| 12:28.21 | sandsmark | Oxygen or Ozone |
| 12:28.32 | sandsmark | I think Ozone (which is pretty much just like oxygen =) |
| 12:28.34 | pookey | great, 4.1 adds back the 'keep on top icon' |
| 12:29.03 | sandsmark | =) |
| 12:29.07 | pookey | splendid news.... next question... my scroll wheel has stopped bringing applications into focus, can anyone remember where that setting is? |
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| 12:30.53 | pookey | oh no... the settings appears to have gone! |
| 12:31.08 | Half-Left | is very happy with 4.1 |
| 12:31.35 | martijn81 | i do not even see the difference between oxygen and ozone |
| 12:32.00 | Jucato | martijn81: there's no real difference except that ozone follows the system color scheme |
| 12:32.06 | pookey | this missing setting is going to drive me insane, I imagine it's a config optoin somewhere.... |
| 12:32.18 | Jucato | that is, you can set a border color different from the window color and ozone will follow |
| 12:32.25 | Jucato | (if you enable that option in ozone) |
| 12:32.43 | Half-Left | needs to do a pile of kdegame graphics today |
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| 12:34.03 | dario_ | has the tag for 4.1 already been done? |
| 12:34.17 | pookey | http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=161174 someone bugged it and fixed it! |
| 12:34.24 | pookey | that's so wrong, that was a 'feature' not a 'bug' :| |
| 12:34.29 | martijn81 | i think so |
| 12:35.20 | Jucato | nope. no tagging for final release yet (based on svn) |
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| 12:41.55 | kriko | how long does it takes to build kde4 from trunk on a 1 cpu ~3000mhz machine? |
| 12:41.59 | martijn81 | well, it will be taged today |
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| 12:42.11 | martijn81 | tagges |
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| 12:42.25 | martijn81 | wtf... tagged |
| 12:43.39 | kriko | thinks martinjn81 is on something... |
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| 12:44.28 | martijn81 | hehe |
| 12:44.51 | martijn81 | just orange juice man, just orange juice |
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| 12:46.29 | Sonia | ciao |
| 12:47.28 | parada | ciao |
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| 12:48.29 | martijn81 | kriko: yup that was the ktorrent channel, but the developers do not know about the channel yet |
| 12:48.51 | kriko | martijn81: thx |
| 12:49.02 | kriko | anyway I reported the problem to forum |
| 12:49.38 | martijn81 | :) |
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| 12:57.17 | memem | hmm hplip doesn't find PyQT |
| 12:57.57 | pookey | how do I go about re-opening a bug? |
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| 13:06.50 | Jucato | pookey: comment on the bug requesting it to be reopened with new information and/or contact the person who's assigned to that bug |
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| 13:20.26 | tapan_chugh | please help to set up kontact |
| 13:21.14 | SerpensV | what's the problem? |
| 13:22.21 | lut4rp | Hello. Do any of the basket notepads developers frequent here? |
| 13:22.40 | tapan_chugh | I do not know to use kontact. Iwas earlier using thunderbird but I wish to change |
| 13:23.01 | SerpensV | set up kmail |
| 13:23.22 | SerpensV | kontact is mail + organizer + RRS reader + some other things |
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| 13:33.57 | thefish | is there a way to make 4.1 task manager show only icons? |
| 13:35.29 | jreznik | <tapan_chugh>: thunderbird is still better :( |
| 13:35.46 | Jucato | thefish: nope. maybe someone will create a plasmoid/widget like that |
| 13:36.10 | thefish | Jucato: thanks :) |
| 13:36.16 | thefish | anything to replace Kasbar? |
| 13:36.31 | Jucato | nope |
| 13:36.33 | thefish | i loved that i could have a nice slim vertical task manager |
| 13:36.36 | thefish | heh |
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| 13:41.03 | parada | thefish: that remembers me PeachyDock |
| 13:41.17 | parada | not sure, was not able to test it |
| 13:41.44 | cyberspace_spide | hi all |
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| 13:43.58 | thefish | parada: ok cool, ill have a look at this |
| 13:44.16 | thefish | i have a wide screen so it makes much more sense to use vertical panels |
| 13:44.23 | thefish | and kasbar did exactly this |
| 13:45.39 | memem | darn hplip . |
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| 14:04.11 | olejl | Is it possible to disable the Keyring app which pops up every time I start my computer? |
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| 14:12.44 | SerpensV | olejl: do you use this app? |
| 14:13.26 | olejl | I think it is used for storing my WPA key for the wireless network |
| 14:14.06 | SerpensV | is it KDE 3.*? |
| 14:14.47 | olejl | No it is KDE4 |
| 14:14.59 | SerpensV | sorry, I won't help you |
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| 14:22.09 | flea | i get tons of email thru exchange2k3 via imap using kmail , suddenly as it tries to refresh folders, it just hangs and hangs and hangs |
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| 14:22.51 | joram | hi can anybody help me i've lost my taskbar and can't get it back |
| 14:23.01 | flea | KMail: 1.9.6 (enterprise 0.20070907.709405) |
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| 14:24.33 | trops | I update my kde4 and my widgets disappear... how do I do recovery they? I had many notes |
| 14:25.06 | flea | update, my kmail finally caught up |
| 14:25.07 | flea | thx |
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| 14:25.35 | joram | trops: did you try re-adding them? |
| 14:26.02 | trops | joram: the problem is the content in my notes |
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| 14:26.14 | trops | I don't remenber of all |
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| 14:26.32 | joram | trops: your notes are empty? |
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| 14:26.52 | trops | joram: no, they disappear |
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| 14:27.11 | trops | if I add new notes, they will be empty |
| 14:27.47 | joram | trops: try looking for them in ~/.kde/ |
| 14:27.51 | simi | hi, i am using kde 4.1 in kubuntu hardy. i have problems adding widgits to the panel, i added a new panel and when i am adding a widgit (clock) it takes all the panel space |
| 14:30.56 | trops | joram: thanks! I found them at ~/.kde/share/config/plasma-appletsrc |
| 14:30.57 | trops | :) |
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| 14:53.16 | simi | i realy need help in arranging wigits in kde 4.1 |
| 14:53.41 | simi | if it can be done manualy at least in a configuration file at least |
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| 14:55.35 | trops | exist any shortcut to open kmenu? |
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| 14:56.17 | rrichie | hi everyone |
| 14:56.36 | rrichie | has anyone any news about the release of a complete kde desktop for windows ? |
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| 14:57.24 | gkiagia | my kopete crashed... I can see "KCrash: Application 'kopete' crashing..." in the terminal, but no crash handler yet appeared... why? |
| 14:58.04 | tuxick | the krash handler krashed! |
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| 14:58.24 | MinceR | time to start the meta-crash handler |
| 14:58.31 | thefish | :) |
| 14:59.45 | gkiagia | tuxick: that could be a reason... :S |
| 14:59.49 | gkiagia | damn |
| 14:59.54 | gkiagia | I need that backtrace |
| 15:00.15 | sandsmark | needs more backtrace |
| 15:02.25 | gkiagia | sandsmark: ?? |
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| 15:13.26 | simi | i can't find a guide for using panel settings |
| 15:13.59 | Jucato | what are you looking for? |
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| 15:15.01 | Aw0L | can kmail preview attached images in the email, without downloading them? |
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| 15:15.46 | memem | hmm can some one tell me if there kdebindings for kde4 has the qt.so(or maybe qt4.so) ? |
| 15:15.49 | parada | Aw0L: if IMAP supported would be possible. I think it is not the case |
| 15:16.59 | rdale | memem: i'm not sure what you mean 'qt.so' isn't a very good name |
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| 15:17.28 | memem | wow I was really sleeping the other night I never got it compiled ) alll I got inthe package was the install and docs :) |
| 15:17.41 | Aw0L | parada, why would that make a difference? it works in thunderbird |
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| 15:18.03 | parada | doesn't make sense |
| 15:18.07 | parada | imap or pop3? |
| 15:18.16 | parada | or other? |
| 15:19.12 | memem | well 3.5.9 has it . I done a python then import qt.so . (with strace -f_ and found whereit looked for the qt . and found it was in kdebindings . mising it for hplip using pyqt . thanks I figured it out I need to se why my kdebindings fialed |
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| 15:20.04 | memem | ah yeah it didn't wqant to find X11 for some reason |
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| 15:20.58 | memem | darn now how with cmake do i find where its trying to look ? |
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| 15:21.49 | memem | http://pastebin.com/m3d78f222 |
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| 15:23.44 | rabauke | anyone using kvirc? |
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| 15:26.29 | Aw0L | parada, imap |
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| 15:28.22 | unclemike | whats the better package... extragear-plasma or or kdeplasmapackages |
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| 15:29.28 | djouallah | unclemike, extrager-plasma don't exist any more |
| 15:29.44 | djouallah | it has been replased with plasma_addon |
| 15:30.30 | Jucato | it's kdeplasma-addons |
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| 15:31.21 | unclemike | djouallah, both are in ubuntu 8.0.4 repo |
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| 15:32.02 | unclemike | kdeplasmaoids |
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| 15:32.37 | djouallah | unclemike, u should use kdeplasmoids, then |
| 15:32.40 | Jucato | unclemike: for 4.1 it has been changed |
| 15:33.08 | unclemike | ok |
| 15:33.12 | Jucato | unclemike: ask in #kubuntu-kde4 for more info |
| 15:33.27 | unclemike | ok |
| 15:33.54 | unclemike | i was told with plasma i can pretty much do like the awn ..avant for gnome |
| 15:34.14 | unclemike | like the os x style dock |
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| 15:50.23 | afink_ | I accidentally removed my kde4 default panel is there an easy way to reset kde defaults? |
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| 15:51.24 | Jucato | afink_: see the Emergency FAQ in the topic |
| 15:51.38 | afink_ | Jucato: cool thanks |
| 15:51.47 | Jucato | or better yet, direct link: http://techbase.kde.org/Projects/Plasma/FAQ#My_panel_is_gone.2C_how_do_I_get_it_back.3F |
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| 15:55.30 | looonger | will there be kde 4.1-rc2? |
| 15:56.04 | pinotree | no |
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| 15:57.53 | looonger | so everything's according to the plan? kde4.1 final in 7 days? |
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| 16:05.50 | FunctorSalad | quesshun please... how can I make the view mode persistent in konqueror? |
| 16:05.54 | FunctorSalad | I can't find it |
| 16:05.57 | dudeman | hey guys |
| 16:06.01 | dudeman | I am using kde 3.5.9 |
| 16:06.13 | dudeman | I have experienced a lockdown of konsole |
| 16:06.32 | dudeman | I have a konsole window open with many tabs. I click on it, its active window, but the cursor is inative |
| 16:06.39 | dudeman | I can switch to diff tabs, but I can't type anything in |
| 16:06.44 | dudeman | so i had to start a new konsole |
| 16:06.49 | dudeman | its not crashed, it just seems locked |
| 16:06.57 | dudeman | how can I restore this konsole, I don't want to lose my tabs |
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| 16:07.34 | dudeman | if i right click in konsole, I can even paste, but the keyboard and cusror in that konsole window are just inactive |
| 16:08.22 | ICM | Should I run the latest version of KDE3 or go to KDE4 on a fresh install of Gentoo (AMD64)? Is there an updated document describing the advantages or disadvantages of KDE4 vs KDE3? :) |
| 16:08.25 | FunctorSalad | nvm my question... there was a .directory file in the offending directory |
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| 16:08.59 | dudeman | anyone |
| 16:09.00 | dudeman | please advise |
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| 16:09.38 | dudeman | 22483 ? S 0:00 konsole [kdeinit] |
| 16:09.48 | dudeman | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:09.57 | dudeman | I only see the two processes |
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| 16:11.21 | FunctorSalad | dudeman: I know that problem but no solution, sorry... but why don't you want to lose your tabs? |
| 16:11.35 | Half-Left | ICM: New tech VS old tech, KDE4 needs time to mature with it's new tech ,since most of it has been rewitten |
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| 16:12.12 | ICM | Are there many programs that work with KDE4? Will programs like Thunderbird and Firefox still work with KDE4? |
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| 16:12.26 | Half-Left | yes |
| 16:12.38 | ICM | Which would you recommend I use? |
| 16:12.49 | Half-Left | Try 4.1 and find out |
| 16:13.00 | Half-Left | It's still RC1 at the moment though |
| 16:13.30 | ICM | Alrighty :D |
| 16:13.40 | pinotree | <ICM> Should I run the latest version of KDE3 or go to KDE4 [...] â you should run whatever you like/prefer/feel confortable with |
| 16:13.45 | ICM | Stupid question... will copmiz work with KDE4? It's not a big deal if it doesn't |
| 16:13.55 | ICM | well, copmiz fusion, whatever it's called at this point in time |
| 16:15.45 | Half-Left | Yes it will but dont expect it to obay KDE4's window rules |
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| 16:16.08 | Half-Left | Or plasma to react proper |
| 16:16.33 | Half-Left | KDE4 comes with effects |
| 16:17.04 | ICM | Hm, I guess I'll try KDE4's effects. How about KDE4's multimonitor support, how is that? |
| 16:17.41 | amon- | After running amarok 1.4 in KDE4.1 it does not start up in Enlightenment. I tried removing ~.kde/share/apps/amarok and ~.kde4 it does not help. It keeps showing the splash and hangs up |
| 16:17.44 | Half-Left | I'm not sure |
| 16:18.20 | ICM | I have two graphics cards, my primary one is an EVGA nvidia 8600GT, the other is an EVGA nvidia 7600GS, both running two monitors each, and all monitors can be assumed to be running different resolutions... think this will work properly? |
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| 18:12.36 | Scraniak | hi , what's date for kde4.1 stable ? |
| 18:12.57 | parada | 29 think |
| 18:13.10 | Scraniak | ok, thank :p |
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| 18:36.10 | Phlogi_ | could anyone help me building digikam for kde4? |
| 18:37.21 | pinotree | "don't ask to ask, just ask" |
| 18:37.47 | Phlogi_ | oh found the code nevermind |
| 18:38.13 | Phlogi_ | there is no seperate plugins directory or package any longer right? |
| 18:38.23 | pinotree | ? |
| 18:38.42 | Phlogi_ | i mean for digikam |
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| 18:39.20 | pinotree | the question makes no sense... |
| 18:40.43 | pinotree | Phlogi_: what is the actual problem? |
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| 18:45.36 | chelg_ | hmm I can't build digikam, http://pastebin.com/m7f212983 |
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| 18:51.23 | chelg_ | no one has an idea? |
| 18:53.03 | White_Pelican | cxan someone help me with kopete? they are not responding in the kopete channel |
| 18:53.03 | White_Pelican | can* |
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| 18:53.25 | martijn81 | White_Pelican: just ask |
| 18:54.02 | White_Pelican | under plugins, I have history turned on, but I don't know where kopete puts it |
| 18:55.26 | White_Pelican | I thought it used to put it under .kde/apps/kopete/logs |
| 18:55.30 | White_Pelican | no suck folder |
| 18:55.41 | White_Pelican | such* |
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| 18:57.45 | White_Pelican | anyone have any ideas? |
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| 18:58.11 | gkiagia | White_Pelican: you can actually see logs in the kopete chat window by pressing the back button on the main toolbar |
| 18:58.41 | White_Pelican | but where does it keep it? |
| 18:58.47 | gkiagia | in .kde4/share/apps/kopete/logs |
| 18:58.59 | martijn81 | ~/.kde4/share/apps/kopete/logs |
| 18:59.12 | martijn81 | oops |
| 18:59.13 | martijn81 | hehe |
| 18:59.17 | White_Pelican | I'm using 3.5.9 |
| 18:59.29 | gkiagia | .kde then |
| 18:59.42 | White_Pelican | I looked and the logs are simply not htere |
| 18:59.58 | flea | kmail seems to have serious issues with processing a large amount of local rules |
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| 19:00.02 | White_Pelican | there isn't even a kopete folder under .kde/share/apps |
| 19:00.07 | martijn81 | White_Pelican: go sit in ~/.kde in konsole |
| 19:00.16 | martijn81 | and input this |
| 19:00.23 | martijn81 | find -name logs |
| 19:00.31 | martijn81 | it should give you somthing |
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| 19:01.14 | White_Pelican | found it |
| 19:01.18 | White_Pelican | thanls for your help |
| 19:01.25 | White_Pelican | thanks* |
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| 19:03.08 | Zonei | Hi all! I'm using KDE 4.0.4 64-bit on OpenSuSE 11, dual-monitor setup where my "second" monitor is to the left of first (laptop LCD). The problem is that the kicker menu is split between left and right, it does not show entirely in one of them. Can I fix that? |
| 19:03.42 | Zonei | s/one/just one |
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| 19:04.50 | chelg_ | marble trunk is broken, for you too? |
| 19:05.04 | Xalan | hello |
| 19:05.33 | Xalan | please help me |
| 19:05.40 | Xalan | i have a little problem |
| 19:05.59 | SerpensV | Xalan: just tell it |
| 19:06.53 | Xalan | SerpensV: i want to enable my wireless network configure |
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| 19:07.17 | Xalan | SerpensV: i followed all the steps in the documentation but it doesn't work |
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| 19:09.31 | SerpensV | Xalan: what documentation? Maybe it would be better to ask on your distro channel |
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| 19:12.00 | NeV3rKilL | hi |
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| 19:16.00 | NeV3rKilL | who knows why if u use sftp:// protocol un dolphin just connect to 300KiB/s and if I use fish:// protocol connects at full speed, 800 KiB/s ? What's difference betwen both ? |
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| 19:31.51 | orki | Could plasmoids be installed away from the location of KDEDIR? My KDE installation directory is /usr but I have some plasmoids from playground/base installed in /opt/local and my KDEDIRS is set to /usr:/opt/local |
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| 19:31.59 | orki | The plasmoids are recognized. However, when I try to add them to the dashboard, they all turn out to be black boxes. |
| 19:32.54 | orki | Do I need to do anything other than rebuild sycoca? |
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| 19:34.34 | g2g591 | orki: try loging out then back in |
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| 19:39.51 | t|zz | people, will PIM be in kde again in 4.1? |
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| 19:41.18 | t|zz | what could be the problem that i can't start konqueror any more? when i start it in console it just doesn't say anything and nothing happens, when i hit ctrl+c i can abort it. as a new user i can start konqueror, but not as my default user. what could be the problem? i don't use kde, but xfce |
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| 19:42.06 | t|zz | this is what i asked some time ago, and i was advised to remove my .kde/ konqueror-contents and did so, but still the same behaviour (but now konqueror says that bookmarks and other files are missing, logically |
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| 19:42.26 | Kebianizao|test | Hello |
| 19:42.43 | orki | g2g591: Thanks, will try |
| 19:43.08 | Kebianizao|test | anyone could help me solving a problem with apparently phonon and xine backend? 4.1rc1 no sound on either juk or dragonplayer |
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| 19:44.13 | Kebianizao|test | mplayer, for instance, works and so does xine-ui |
| 19:44.27 | Kebianizao|test | I'm stalled, don't know where to look |
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| 19:45.27 | seria-mau | testing kde4.1 rc1: how can i move widgets in the panel? when i do "configure panel" and move a widget it snaps always back where it was |
| 19:46.17 | seria-mau | how can i have a digital clock with time beside date and not above? |
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| 19:47.20 | nogagplz | seria-mau: In properties uncheck the date box for that clock? |
| 19:47.42 | seria-mau | nogagplz: then i have no date at all! |
| 19:47.42 | nogagplz | As for date who knows >> |
| 19:48.10 | nogagplz | seria-mau: pfft, nobody keeps track of the date anyway :P |
| 19:48.19 | seria-mau | ^^ |
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| 19:52.41 | seria-mau | how can i search with strigi? |
| 19:52.56 | _LoneCrow | what th e hell do you have to do to get adobe flash to work in konquerer? \ |
| 19:53.15 | _LoneCrow | I downloaded it, installed it but the browser still will not pick it up |
| 19:53.34 | Kebianizao|test | _LoneCrow: did you looked in the konqueror plugins settings? |
| 19:53.40 | Kebianizao|test | s/looked/look |
| 19:53.48 | _LoneCrow | yep and it isn't there |
| 19:53.52 | g2g591 | _LoneCrow: you should have installed flash with your distros package mangager, I'm pretty sure that might help |
| 19:54.20 | _LoneCrow | this was the fedora 9 distro with kde, and didnt give me an option, it was one of those bootable desktop disks |
| 19:54.42 | twomoner | _LoneCrow: or put it in firefos plugin diregtory |
| 19:54.57 | twomoner | firefox |
| 19:55.16 | twomoner | directory |
| 19:55.18 | twomoner | :P |
| 19:55.29 | _LoneCrow | I downloaded firefox and it is tarred etc.. I unpacked it to a directory and from there I am clueless, there looks to be some .sh files in therw hich didn't have +x so I chmod that and it still wont run |
| 19:56.01 | g2g591 | _LoneCrow: you are installing things the wrong way. ask in #fedora how to install things |
| 19:56.04 | sredna | why doesn |
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| 19:56.15 | sredna | t oxygen respect my color scheme? |
| 19:56.24 | sredna | (window deco) |
| 19:56.26 | _LoneCrow | isn't there some sort of package installer type deal like in gnome? |
| 19:56.39 | g2g591 | _LoneCrow: probabily, ask in #fedora |
| 19:57.04 | twomoner | sredna: yes |
| 19:57.06 | _LoneCrow | but isn't this kde desktop? that controls the behavior of the GUI OS ? |
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| 19:57.38 | _LoneCrow | or it is distro specific |
| 19:57.42 | g2g591 | _LoneCrow:installing things is different in every distrobution |
| 19:58.01 | _LoneCrow | ahh didnt know that. |
| 19:58.17 | _LoneCrow | thanks |
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| 19:58.37 | twomoner | in fedora is: yum install ... |
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| 19:59.03 | SerpensV | but CLI is scary for most newbies |
| 19:59.05 | sajes | I'm running Debian Lenny with KDE 3.5.9, and I want to instead of bringing up a menu of "create new" and stuff when I right click, bring up a menu of open windows like middle-click does. Is this possible? |
| 20:00.02 | Kebianizao|test | sajes: do mean in the desktop or in any app? |
| 20:00.19 | sajes | Kebianizao|test: When it clicks on the desktop. |
| 20:00.49 | sredna | twomoner: yes what? |
| 20:01.31 | sredna | how do i 'show desktop' in kde4? |
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| 20:02.54 | Kebianizao|test | sajes: kcontrol->desktop->behaviour->general |
| 20:03.09 | Kebianizao|test | look the below options for each click type |
| 20:03.25 | sajes | Kebianizao|test: Thanks, I should've seen that. :) |
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| 20:03.41 | Half-Left | sredna: use the plasma, not sure if it in 4.0.x |
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| 20:03.49 | Half-Left | plasmoid* |
| 20:03.53 | Half-Left | Widget |
| 20:04.20 | sredna | Half-Left: what? |
| 20:04.32 | Half-Left | Add widgets |
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| 20:05.47 | sredna | Half-Left: i do not want to add anything, i just want to hide all apps so that i can see the desktop :) |
| 20:06.10 | sredna | i think there is a shortcut for it, but nothing shows me what that could be |
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| 20:06.21 | Half-Left | sredna: The hide desktop option IS a widget that you add from the Add widgets dialog |
| 20:06.47 | Half-Left | Show Desktop |
| 20:06.48 | sredna | Half-Left: appearently i do have a desktop, with a background and a panel |
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| 20:07.10 | Half-Left | Well I dont know either |
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| 20:08.51 | Half-Left | sredna: Anyway, it's a widget you can add in 4.1 to the panel or desktop |
| 20:09.41 | sredna | Half-Left: thank you, let me try that :) |
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| 20:10.44 | blackmamba420 | hey guys how do i change plasma themes with kde4? |
| 20:10.53 | blackmamba420 | i cant find anything bout it |
| 20:11.39 | twoMoneR | blackmamba420: click right corner |
| 20:11.41 | twoMoneR | :P |
| 20:12.00 | blackmamba420 | er thats plasma? |
| 20:12.04 | blackmamba420 | hhaha |
| 20:12.08 | blackmamba420 | i been using that.. |
| 20:12.19 | blackmamba420 | i was thinking the transparency of the windows and such |
| 20:13.01 | Half-Left | in 4.1 it's in desktop settings |
| 20:13.34 | blackmamba420 | sweettt |
| 20:13.38 | blackmamba420 | found it thanks half |
| 20:13.54 | Half-Left | :p |
| 20:14.03 | blackmamba420 | also, i am using nvidia drivers and when i open windows sometimes it does this wierd distortion |
| 20:14.07 | blackmamba420 | anyone else get that? |
| 20:14.07 | luca_b | blackmamba420: http://techbase.kde.org/Projects/Plasma/FAQ#Is_there_a_GUI_option_available_to_change_the_theme.3F |
| 20:14.23 | luca_b | blackmamba420: NVIDIA driver issue |
| 20:14.39 | twoMoneR | well i havent kde4 yet:) |
| 20:15.05 | Half-Left | nvidia drivers are somewhat buggy with KDE4.x |
| 20:15.23 | Half-Left | If you dont need 3d then use the opensource Xorg one |
| 20:15.35 | Half-Left | it works better |
| 20:15.48 | luca_b | Half-Left: better say, KDE4 uses some functionality that is buggy in NVIDIA drivers |
| 20:15.51 | Half-Left | And you can have desktop effects |
| 20:16.06 | luca_b | no one noticed before because no one used those features |
| 20:16.12 | Half-Left | luca_b: Just the person :p |
| 20:16.33 | luca_b | I should set up a bot |
| 20:16.41 | luca_b | to randomply put bits of the FAQ |
| 20:16.47 | luca_b | randomly |
| 20:16.50 | blackmamba420 | awesome so i changed the theme and it changed my widget themes |
| 20:17.04 | luca_b | blackmamba420: yes, all SVGs for this |
| 20:17.05 | blackmamba420 | how can i change the windows as well? like file manager an dsuch |
| 20:17.11 | Half-Left | luca_b: My KDE4.1 video in high resolution http://www.badongo.com/file/10500599 |
| 20:17.30 | luca_b | Half-Left: are you on the KDE-promo ML? |
| 20:17.38 | Half-Left | nope |
| 20:17.38 | twoMoneR | Half-Left: in kde 4.1 can I download new plasmoids from menu? |
| 20:17.50 | luca_b | I'm going to ask the sysadmins about hosting but I won't have time till this saturday |
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| 20:17.55 | luca_b | HUGE work backlog |
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| 20:18.27 | Half-Left | twoMoneR: Not yet |
| 20:18.40 | twoMoneR | ok thx |
| 20:18.52 | Half-Left | twoMoneR: needs to be some security in place |
| 20:19.09 | luca_b | Half-Left: I think I just found a new question for the FAQ |
| 20:19.14 | luca_b | like, right now |
| 20:19.20 | Half-Left | Oh yer? |
| 20:19.56 | blackmamba420 | sorry for nub questions but how can i change the window themes with plasma? is this possible? |
| 20:19.59 | luca_b | the one you just answered |
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| 20:20.10 | blackmamba420 | i have seen screenshots with transparent windows |
| 20:20.17 | Half-Left | ahhh |
| 20:20.28 | luca_b | blackmamba420: that's kwin realm -> systemsettings -> appearance or window behavior |
| 20:21.01 | twoMoneR | :) |
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| 20:21.19 | blackmamba420 | ah i see |
| 20:21.27 | blackmamba420 | where are all the cool window effects/ |
| 20:21.28 | twoMoneR | blackmamba420: smillar to kde3 |
| 20:21.30 | twoMoneR | :P |
| 20:21.49 | luca_b | blackmamba420: bear in mind that NVIDIA + effects = bad |
| 20:22.03 | luca_b | due to the driver itself having problems |
| 20:22.16 | blackmamba420 | gah |
| 20:22.19 | blackmamba420 | that sucks |
| 20:22.21 | Half-Left | Yer, nvidia can't keep up with us :p |
| 20:22.21 | Sput | btw, how are chances that the nvidia problems will be fixed at all? is there a debug effort going on? |
| 20:22.22 | blackmamba420 | ill hold off then |
| 20:22.38 | Sput | I mean, is nvidia willing to cooperate and fix that bug? |
| 20:22.44 | blackmamba420 | thats so wierd cuz compiz works best with nvidia |
| 20:22.50 | blackmamba420 | haha its opposite |
| 20:22.53 | Half-Left | Sput: They are aware of it |
| 20:23.06 | Sput | blackmamba420: 3D performance is ok, 2D performance is causing the problem |
| 20:23.17 | blackmamba420 | i see |
| 20:23.21 | Sput | Half-Left: and interested in fixing it too? |
| 20:23.24 | luca_b | Sput: the main issue is WHEN it's going to be fixed |
| 20:23.26 | Half-Left | blackmamba420: Because it's old thats why, it's still buggy with not as fast as it should be with the driver |
| 20:23.32 | luca_b | hates proprietary solutions |
| 20:23.40 | blackmamba420 | so i still cant find anyway to make my windows transparent and i have serched google cnat find anything |
| 20:23.49 | Half-Left | Sput: Fixing what? |
| 20:23.56 | Sput | the driver |
| 20:24.07 | Half-Left | You can't, only nvidia can |
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| 20:25.28 | twoMoneR | ok i must go bye |
| 20:26.28 | blackmamba420 | do i have to find new window decorations? i downloaded a plasma theme doesnt it have window decorations in it? |
| 20:26.36 | Half-Left | luca_b: Money, Money, Money |
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| 20:27.16 | Half-Left | blackmamba420: It's not plasma the window decs, it's like KDE3 in that sense |
| 20:27.24 | blackmamba420 | i see |
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| 20:28.01 | luca_b | Half-Left: they still suck, glad this eee has intel and my next card will be ati |
| 20:28.04 | Half-Left | Plasma is the desktop |
| 20:28.37 | Half-Left | luca_b: Yer, seriously thinking of ATI/AMD myself next |
| 20:28.45 | blackmamba420 | so wait i can use compiz with kde4? and plasma? |
| 20:28.50 | Vash63 | Wow. 4.1 is awesome. Huge jump from the 4.0.x line. |
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| 20:29.01 | luca_b | blackmamba420: hold on,here's an explanation of what plasma is |
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| 20:29.10 | Half-Left | blackmamba420: yes but dont expect it to act right and proper |
| 20:29.14 | mint2 | kde 4 still got issues man |
| 20:29.15 | luca_b | http://techbase.kde.org/Projects/Plasma/FAQ |
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| 20:29.23 | luca_b | that explains everything |
| 20:29.24 | luca_b | well |
| 20:29.28 | luca_b | more or less |
| 20:29.45 | mint2 | stick to 3.5 |
| 20:29.45 | Vash63 | ATi is quickly becoming the way to go for graphics right now... I hope AMD CPUs come back too. |
| 20:29.50 | mint2 | donno why they released it |
| 20:29.57 | mint2 | 3.59 is good enough |
| 20:29.58 | luca_b | mint2: it depends on who uses it |
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| 20:30.10 | luca_b | I can't go back to 3.5.x for the life of me now |
| 20:30.17 | mint2 | luca_b, u on 4 / |
| 20:30.21 | luca_b | 4.1 |
| 20:30.24 | luca_b | RC1 |
| 20:30.28 | Vash63 | mint: Because change isn't bad? If we kept using the same things forever because they were 'good enough' this industry wouldn't move very fast. |
| 20:30.37 | Half-Left | mint2: I use 4.1 all the time so speak for yourself |
| 20:30.44 | parada | luca_b: you got an early adopter mind. early adopters can never go back |
| 20:30.44 | luca_b | loving the ZUI and plsma |
| 20:30.48 | mint2 | ah well |
| 20:31.07 | g2g591 | I'm already on 4.2 |
| 20:31.30 | luca_b | parada: well more or less, just that I started using zooming and stuff only recently and I found it immensely useful |
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| 20:31.43 | luca_b | and I abused folder view after reading lydia's blog |
| 20:31.50 | mint2 | 3.5 still is the stable version |
| 20:31.53 | Half-Left | lol |
| 20:32.15 | parada | do not like zzoming. it is used for having various plasmoid groups? |
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| 20:32.25 | parada | you don't want a zoom |
| 20:32.30 | parada | you want plasmoid groups |
| 20:32.34 | luca_b | parada: to hold activities, think independent virtual desktops |
| 20:32.42 | luca_b | the idea is to hold plasmoids |
| 20:32.45 | parada | yes |
| 20:32.48 | mint2 | i know, was looking forward to it, till it screwed up when i installed |
| 20:32.51 | mint2 | had to wipe out 4 |
| 20:33.00 | Half-Left | mint2: Use what you like but tye it first, you can beat your own experience |
| 20:33.02 | blackmamba420 | ok im not getting this lol |
| 20:33.06 | parada | to hold activities, think independent virtual desktops -> has this anything to do with zoom? |
| 20:33.11 | Half-Left | try* |
| 20:33.23 | luca_b | parada: yes because you move back and forth from activities |
| 20:33.24 | blackmamba420 | can someone just tell me real quick how i can get my windows to be a different theme, transparent preferrably |
| 20:33.27 | mint2 | Half-Left, i did mate, as i said, the minute i booted up it would give an error |
| 20:33.30 | blackmamba420 | do i have to get compiz? |
| 20:33.33 | luca_b | plus in the future |
| 20:33.44 | luca_b | you may have activities of different type |
| 20:33.49 | luca_b | (right now only default) |
| 20:33.53 | Half-Left | mint2: Well I dont know, maybe your packages are at fault? |
| 20:34.14 | mint2 | maybe, Half-Left |
| 20:34.16 | Half-Left | KDE3.5 is still buggy you know |
| 20:34.32 | luca_b | I admit I am a bit of an evangelizer here |
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| 20:34.56 | Half-Left | It's not as perfect as people make out |
| 20:35.05 | luca_b | but well, I started with the FAQ because I got annoyed by all the flames |
| 20:35.07 | parada | you could have a button to switch between activities. then change would take you 0.5 sec . and 1 step. Now it takes 6-7 secs and 5 steps to change between activities |
| 20:35.15 | luca_b | parada: keyboard shortucts |
| 20:35.19 | mint2 | its reliable mate |
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| 20:35.27 | parada | so no zoom is needed |
| 20:35.33 | Half-Left | Yes because it's more mature |
| 20:35.44 | luca_b | parada: it's going to be more than just that, btu we're still early in development |
| 20:35.55 | parada | yes I undertant |
| 20:36.05 | parada | *understand |
| 20:36.05 | Half-Left | But I can say that 4.1 is much more stable than KDE3.3 every was |
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| 20:36.14 | Half-Left | ever* |
| 20:36.16 | parada | my critics are for evolving it |
| 20:36.17 | mint2 | its a RC |
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| 20:36.26 | luca_b | my 4.1 nstall is pretty stable |
| 20:36.34 | luca_b | I also ran SVN for a while |
| 20:36.36 | mint2 | "pretty" |
| 20:36.37 | g2g591 | my svn install is pretty stable |
| 20:36.50 | parada | i think that kde 4 should be possible to control it from panel |
| 20:36.54 | g2g591 | I can't wait for people to come and break it, now that trunk is unfrozen |
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| 20:37.09 | luca_b | mint2: I'm not a native speaker so I may not have used the right word |
| 20:37.09 | parada | that's the reason i do not like zoom. it's not in panel |
| 20:37.30 | mint2 | compizfusion owns |
| 20:37.32 | parada | maybe a plasmoid to change between activities would do well |
| 20:37.38 | Half-Left | mint2: Consider it's life cycle is nowhere near as macture as 3.x yet in my view it's more stable and KDE3,x was at the same level |
| 20:37.47 | Half-Left | mature* |
| 20:37.54 | luca_b | parada: we'll see, Plasma matured at a blazing fast pace |
| 20:37.57 | mint2 | would u recommend the unfinished 4.1 ? |
| 20:38.02 | mint2 | i like plasmoids too |
| 20:38.25 | Half-Left | Well it's RC, and a very good RC at that |
| 20:38.32 | luca_b | I concur |
| 20:38.45 | mint2 | Half-Left no disrespect meant but there is a reason its called RC |
| 20:39.00 | Half-Left | And? |
| 20:39.04 | luca_b | mint2: It's going to be released next week anyway 8P |
| 20:39.51 | govi | hi, where I can find how to build kde3.5.x applications from svn in kdevelop? |
| 20:40.18 | picca | i like KDE 4.1 RC1, but going to wait until early next year before moving from 3.5 |
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| 20:41.02 | Half-Left | USe what you want, it's not like Microsoft are on your backs to upgrade |
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| 20:41.33 | picca | Half-Left: never said i wouldn't use what i want |
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| 20:42.43 | Half-Left | picca: it's a general statement |
| 20:43.09 | picca | Half-Left: it seemed like a respone to my statement |
| 20:43.23 | mint2 | o well, people, stick to stable |
| 20:43.29 | mint2 | until 4.x stable is out |
| 20:43.42 | picca | for me 4.1 seems very stable, but the apps need to catch up a bit |
| 20:43.48 | Half-Left | mint2: Dont speak for all of us |
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| 20:44.03 | picca | i depend on koffice |
| 20:44.20 | mint2 | u are speaking for all of us, biased statement |
| 20:44.38 | Half-Left | really, how so? |
| 20:45.00 | picca | that is how i interpreted it mint2 |
| 20:45.09 | Half-Left | I said, "in my view" |
| 20:45.17 | Half-Left | No one elses |
| 20:45.25 | mint2 | nevermind, youre too overbearing to see your own nose. moving on... |
| 20:45.33 | picca | you didn't say "in my view" |
| 20:45.49 | Half-Left | really, quiet me then? |
| 20:45.56 | Half-Left | quote* |
| 20:46.28 | picca | Half-Left: i think you need to grow up a little :) |
| 20:46.42 | Half-Left | I think you need to stop trolling |
| 20:46.48 | nogagplz | [06:39:21] <Half-Left> mint2: Consider it's life cycle is nowhere near as macture as 3.x yet in my view it's more stable and KDE3,x was at the same level |
| 20:46.50 | picca | Half-Left: trolling how? |
| 20:47.07 | Half-Left | nogagplz: Thankyou |
| 20:47.30 | Half-Left | The End :p |
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| 20:48.08 | picca | you still talk shite Half-Left ;) |
| 20:48.28 | Half-Left | lol |
| 20:48.48 | mint2 | he'll figure it out one good day :) |
| 20:49.00 | picca | lol |
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| 20:51.44 | Half-Left | picca: you just got owned and proven wrong so, now you need to attack, thats a troll if ever I saw one |
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| 20:54.31 | picca | Half-Left: you do make me laugh - when will it end? |
| 20:55.11 | chelg_ | I can't compile digikam: http://pastebin.com/m42b66218, anyone has an idea? |
| 20:55.45 | Half-Left | picca: When your gone and done something useful yes |
| 20:56.28 | picca | Half-Left: i can see i have annoyed you :) |
| 20:56.39 | Half-Left | Though I have to wonder why KDE users have to fight each other because they think 4.x is not stable |
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| 20:57.00 | picca | is that a general statement Half-Left? |
| 20:57.21 | Half-Left | Use your own brain to work it out |
| 20:57.26 | picca | <picca> for me 4.1 seems very stable, but the apps need to catch up a bit |
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| 20:57.53 | picca | Half-Left: is that because you haven't got a brain? |
| 20:58.18 | Half-Left | ignors the troll |
| 20:58.47 | picca | the most predictable of all respones in your situation |
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| 21:01.36 | Half-Left | luca_b: Nvidia driver is insanely slow with ZUI resizing widgets and glitches |
| 21:02.24 | luca_b | Half-Left: yes |
| 21:02.32 | luca_b | it's faster on this eee |
| 21:02.37 | luca_b | that means something |
| 21:03.01 | Half-Left | Yer in that video I couldn't drag widgets sometimes |
| 21:03.17 | Half-Left | Spoiled it abit |
| 21:03.30 | luca_b | I REALLY hope NVIDIA gets its act together |
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| 21:04.18 | sasch_pe_ | luca_b: How fast is it on an eee ? |
| 21:04.49 | luca_b | sasch_pe_: well things get a little slow when zoomed oout |
| 21:04.56 | luca_b | but nowhere as slow as with NVIDIA |
| 21:05.46 | Half-Left | it's like freeze frame when you resize widgets in ZUI mode |
| 21:06.02 | sasch_pe_ | luca_b: I would be interessted what minimal requirements are needed for KDE4. I've seen it running on a Freerunner in someone's blog. |
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| 21:06.18 | luca_b | sasch_pe_: that is a GSoC project I think |
| 21:06.35 | sasch_pe_ | luca_b: cool, makes for a perfect show-case |
| 21:06.39 | luca_b | sasch_pe_: that would need to be published(requirements) |
| 21:06.54 | luca_b | I'll ping kde-promo in a few days |
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| 21:07.00 | Half-Left | Runs pretty well on 256Mb ram |
| 21:07.16 | luca_b | ok battery out |
| 21:07.18 | luca_b | I'm off too |
| 21:07.22 | luca_b | bye bye folks |
| 21:07.23 | sasch_pe_ | luca_b: I can commit results when running on an old centrino laptop forces @600 mhz :-) |
| 21:07.56 | Kebianizao|test | anyone could help me solving a problem with apparently phonon and xine backend? 4.1rc1 no sound on either juk or dragonplayer |
| 21:07.59 | Kebianizao|test | mplayer, for instance, works and so does xine-ui |
| 21:08.12 | Half-Left | Going to watch some films, cya later |
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| 21:34.40 | Kebianizao|test | no luck with phonon, next topic... |
| 21:34.59 | Kebianizao|test | what's the default action for crtl-meta-W on kde3? |
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| 21:40.22 | pinotree | Sho_: ping |
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| 21:44.56 | patpi | Hi |
| 21:45.10 | patpi | does anyone here have kde4.1rc1 _debug enabled_ packages/compilation? |
| 21:45.25 | mint2 | righy |
| 21:47.39 | patpi | mint2: you have debug enabled packages with rc1? |
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| 21:49.14 | patpi | Can you try to reproduce and confirm one kde bug for me? I use opensusekde4.1rc1 packages and there is no debug enabled packages for kwin. ;/ And I don't have time for compiling kde4.1 unfortunatly. |
| 21:49.43 | patpi | So maybe you can (or anyone who is reading this) reproduce this bug -> http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=166960 |
| 21:49.56 | patpi | if yes , can you paste there backtrace now? |
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| 21:51.06 | parada | patpi. worked well 2 times and third crashed |
| 21:53.16 | patpi | ok, do you got backtrace parada ? |
| 21:53.31 | patpi | without "no debuging symbols found" :) |
| 21:53.48 | parada | I run in console |
| 21:53.51 | parada | is that enought? |
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| 21:54.15 | parada | not much bt |
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| 21:54.51 | patpi | there should benew window with backtrace symbols |
| 21:54.53 | parada | how should I do to get proper bt? |
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| 21:56.06 | parada | is that ok? http://pastebin.com/d1fc8d912 |
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| 21:57.13 | elfenquetsche | hi |
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| 21:58.02 | patpi | no unfortunatly no parada. You also don't have debug packages |
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| 21:58.58 | patpi | But I will try to better recount how to reproduce this issue in bugzilla |
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| 22:00.41 | Cazou | hi |
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| 22:02.07 | Cazou | I often have crashs with kopete in the file kdelibs/kdecore/network/k3socketbuffer.cpp at the line 256 |
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| 22:02.28 | Cazou | is that known ? |
| 22:02.31 | patpi | Cazou: do you have debug enabled packages with kde4.1rc1/ |
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| 22:03.16 | Cazou | yes |
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| 22:03.24 | Cazou | its kde4 svn |
| 22:03.43 | patpi | Cazou: it is this bug? https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=157686 |
| 22:04.02 | MurielGodoi | Hi all, is already there a way to add a new place to dolphin in kde4? I can do that in kde3 |
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| 22:04.09 | patpi | Maybe you can help me and provide backtrace for this one http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=166960 |
| 22:04.31 | MurielGodoi | is running kde 4.0.98 |
| 22:04.45 | patpi | you have to press Ctrl+F12 and many times press alt+tab with comosite and cover switch turned on |
| 22:05.36 | Cazou | I have an extremely slow internet connexion, I give you infos as soon as the page is loaded |
| 22:05.39 | Cazou | :) |
| 22:06.09 | parada | patpi: added info of how to reproduce crash. if you explain me i can try to get better debug (using debian experimental) |
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| 22:08.50 | Cazou | patpi: seems to be the one (157686) |
| 22:09.12 | Cazou | I have 3 users in my roster... |
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| 22:09.30 | patpi | :) so one bug hunted down. Good :) |
| 22:09.52 | Cazou | why down ? |
| 22:09.56 | Cazou | it's solved ? |
| 22:10.01 | patpi | Debian - Debian offers -dbg packages to easy create useful backtraces. Just install the corresponding -dbg package. e.g. kdepim-dbg for kmail crashes. The dependencies of -dbg makes sure to pull in the other right packages (kdelibs-dbg, gdb, and so on). |
| 22:10.10 | patpi | your one is tracked already |
| 22:10.27 | patpi | back to mine, kwin-dbg should work here |
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| 22:10.40 | patpi | and after installing this you should have propoer debug |
| 22:10.59 | patpi | I wish it would be so easy toinstal ldebug package on opensuse :) |
| 22:11.15 | Cazou | it's easy on gentoo ;) |
| 22:12.18 | patpi | so parada , can you install kwin-dbg ? |
| 22:12.59 | Cazou | I should alredy have that :s |
| 22:13.30 | parada | Cazou: doesn't exist |
| 22:14.19 | patpi | so Cazou maybe you can provide propoer backtrace for http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=166960 |
| 22:14.21 | patpi | ? |
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| 22:15.57 | Cazou | wait |
| 22:19.31 | parada | cozou are u reporting cover switch? i think a found necessary packages |
| 22:19.54 | Cazou | I don't have HTTP access anymore |
| 22:19.55 | Cazou | sorry |
| 22:20.02 | Cazou | can't see the bug report |
| 22:20.03 | Cazou | s |
| 22:20.14 | Cazou | and it's time for bed now |
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| 22:20.25 | patpi | meh, thanks for help |
| 22:20.25 | Cazou | see you |
| 22:20.28 | patpi | :) |
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| 22:22.28 | Kenjiro | evening |
| 22:22.34 | parada | patpi: will repear backtrace after downloading debug packages 25 min aprox |
| 22:22.53 | parada | *repeat |
| 22:24.25 | patpi | thanx parada , I will probably go offline then but If you already know how to reproduce it pleas post it @ http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=166960 |
| 22:24.43 | patpi | I would love to fix my invalid report this way :) |
| 22:25.04 | patpi | kde4.1 is really shaping nice :) |
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| 22:26.29 | ma3x | where do i find in kcontrol the battery monitor thingie? |
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| 22:30.30 | Kenjiro | anyone running 4.0.99? |
| 22:30.40 | Kenjiro | (just to know, I am downloading it right now) |
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| 22:35.27 | pierres | Kenjiro: I think the final version should be tagged today; so you might want to wait for that |
| 22:36.30 | Kenjiro | ooooooooooooh man! |
| 22:36.31 | Kenjiro | hehehehhe |
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| 22:36.41 | Kenjiro | final version as in 4.1, or 4.1rc2? :) |
| 22:36.57 | colyte | I need to disable the alt + rmb function in kde4? |
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| 22:37.20 | colyte | Err... how.. would one accomplish that when its not under systemsettings -> keyboard -> shortcuts. |
| 22:37.22 | Nyle | rmb? |
| 22:37.30 | Nyle | what is a rmb? |
| 22:37.32 | colyte | RightMouseButton :) |
| 22:37.37 | Nyle | oh |
| 22:37.43 | Nyle | slaps forhead |
| 22:38.13 | Nyle | i thought you meant Roast Mutton Biryani |
| 22:38.39 | colyte | Apparently it functions as a resize type thing in kde4.. problem is there's no way to disable it. :( |
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| 22:39.13 | Kenjiro | colyte: why do you need "alt+rmb"? |
| 22:39.28 | colyte | no loop cutting in blender for me. |
| 22:39.55 | Kenjiro | aaaaaaaaaaaaaaah, i kindda guessed that ;) |
| 22:40.18 | Kenjiro | pierres: there will be shortcuts available in kde 4.1 final version ? :) |
| 22:41.01 | patpi | ok parada , i need to go now. I wish you good backtrace of this bug :) Thanks a lot for help |
| 22:41.03 | patpi | cu all |
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| 22:41.38 | Kebianizao|test | parada: you will need kdebase-dbg and kdelibs5-dbg |
| 22:41.59 | parada | thanks Kebianizao|test, already downloading |
| 22:42.08 | Kebianizao|test | ah, ok :) |
| 22:42.15 | Kebianizao|test | can't reproduce it here though |
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| 22:42.26 | parada | not with my steps? |
| 22:42.45 | parada | are more specific than first ones |
| 22:44.38 | Kebianizao|test | parada: no way, no |
| 22:44.49 | Kebianizao|test | have tried a lot of combinations, not a crash |
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| 22:45.09 | Kebianizao|test | maybe a driver specific issue, what video carda re you usin? |
| 22:45.40 | parada | nVidia Corporation C51 [Geforce 6150 Go] (rev a2) |
| 22:45.58 | Kebianizao|test | that's important, intel here |
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| 22:53.10 | Kebianizao|test | what does this mean? QStringList Solid::Backends::Hal::HalManager::findDeviceByDeviceInterface(const Solid::DeviceInterface::Type&) error: "org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.Disconnected |
| 22:53.29 | Kebianizao|test | what could I do about it? I got this when I run dragonplayer |
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| 23:09.24 | parada | Kebianizao|test: hope enough info on coverSwitch. anything else I can be useful? |
| 23:10.03 | Kebianizao|test | parada: if you know how to help me :) |
| 23:11.03 | Kebianizao|test | parada: now seriously, if you want to bust bugs, go to #kde-bugs and read topic |
| 23:12.02 | parada | was already there |
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| 23:23.23 | Cappyyyy | when i put CD in CD-RW drive KDE doesn't mount it auto ,i have to mount it manually. Can i fix it ? :? |
| 23:24.08 | Kebianizao|test | Cappyyyy: which kde version? |
| 23:24.25 | Cappyyyy | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:25.05 | Cappyyyy | im with gentoo linux ,and i emerged kde-meta package |
| 23:25.41 | Kebianizao|test | Cappyyyy: have you taken a look at media manager kicker applet? |
| 23:25.51 | t|zz | Cappyyyy: ask in #gentoo-kde |
| 23:26.00 | Kebianizao|test | yes, that should be better |
| 23:26.08 | Cappyyyy | ok thx |
| 23:26.08 | Kebianizao|test | maybe there are some pacakges missing |
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| 23:26.13 | Kebianizao|test | night |
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| 23:26.32 | t|zz | Cappyyyy: you have to install hal, dbus and start them and add to your runlevel ... |
| 23:26.57 | Cappyyyy | yup i have them |
| 23:27.13 | Cappyyyy | when i connect my cell phone to USB, it mount it, but not and CD |
| 23:27.47 | memem | kdebinding just hates me :( |
| 23:31.13 | lavacano201014 | Is this the right spot for Amarok Nightly stuff? Or is there an #amarok to ask those in? |
| 23:31.14 | pierres | Does anybody know who to ask for access to the source releases meant for distro-packagers? |
| 23:31.42 | lavacano201014 | takes the "Just Google It" route and checks |
| 23:31.48 | lavacano201014 | Ah, never mind. |
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| 23:40.43 | mikearthur | pierres: just checkout the tag |
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| 23:44.54 | pierres | mikearthur: right, but that's usually quite slow ;-) |
| 23:46.53 | mikearthur | no slower really than the source releases |
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| 23:48.56 | pierres | well, I'll see. :-) |
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| 23:58.42 | ciaraan | Hello there. I just installed KDE4.1RC On Gentoo, and now my Dual XScreen setup (w/o Xinerama) does not work - Screen 1 has no Desktop shell. does anyone have any idea how to fix this? |
