| 00:00.46 | omicron23 | Every time that I log into kde4 kopete is starting automatically. Although I quitted kopete before I logged out. (not minimizing but quitting..) and the last few times I logged in, kate started automatically.. I have no Idea why.. |
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| 00:01.07 | scarface88 | Unable to connetc to remote server please check your settinmg and try again tithe error message I receive from Network Folder Wizard. |
| 00:01.21 | kdepepo | omicron23, saved session? |
| 00:01.29 | ubuntu | hola |
| 00:02.13 | zaardvark | omicron23, that's kinda the opposite of the problem I had; my kde4 would crash and not remember half my apps, on logout :/ |
| 00:02.22 | omicron23 | kdepepo: when does the session get saved? |
| 00:02.26 | ubuntu | holaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa |
| 00:02.35 | ubuntu | Wizard. |
| 00:02.38 | ubuntu | [00:01] <kdepepo> omicron23, saved session? |
| 00:02.41 | ubuntu | [00:01] <ubuntu> hola |
| 00:02.44 | ubuntu | [00:01] [Whois] zulu9 is n=zulu9@p5B37DF51.dip.t-dialin.net (Thomas) |
| 00:02.56 | ubuntu | [00:01] [Whois] zulu9 is a user on channels: #debian-kde #kde |
| 00:03.05 | ubuntu | [00:01] [Whois] zulu9 is online via irc.freenode.net (http://freenode.net/). |
| 00:03.08 | ubuntu | [00:01] [Whois] zulu9 is an identified user. |
| 00:03.11 | ubuntu | [00:01] [Whois] zulu9 is an identified user. |
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| 00:03.14 | ubuntu | [00:01] [Whois] zulu9 has been idle for 18 minutes and 38 seconds. |
| 00:03.17 | ubuntu | [00:01] [Whois] zulu9 has been online since 09/08/08 23:22:55. |
| 00:03.20 | ubuntu | [00:01] [Whois] End of WHOIS list. |
| 00:03.23 | ubuntu | [00:02] <-- t-bronce has left this server (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)). |
| 00:03.26 | ubuntu | [00:02] <zaardvark> omicron23, that's kinda the opposite of the problem I had; my kde4 would crash and not remember half my apps, on logout :/ |
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| 00:03.29 | ubuntu | [00:02] <omicron23> kdepepo: when does the session get saved? |
| 00:03.32 | ubuntu | [00:02] <ubuntu> holaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa |
| 00:03.35 | ubuntu | Wizard. |
| 00:03.38 | ubuntu | [00:01] <kdepepo> omicron23, saved session? |
| 00:03.39 | pete_ | Are mouse gestures in kde 4.1? |
| 00:03.41 | ubuntu | [00:01] <ubuntu> hola |
| 00:03.44 | ubuntu | [00:01] [Whois] zulu9 is n=zulu9@p5B37DF51.dip.t-dialin.net (Thomas) |
| 00:03.47 | ubuntu | [00:01] [Whois] zulu9 is a user on channels: #debian-kde #kde |
| 00:03.50 | ubuntu | [00:01] [Whois] zulu9 is online via irc.freenode.net (http://freenode.net/). |
| 00:03.53 | ubuntu | [00:01] [Whois] zulu9 is an identified user. |
| 00:03.56 | ubuntu | [00:01] [Whois] zulu9 is an identified user. |
| 00:03.58 | gionny | !ops |
| 00:03.59 | ubuntu | [00:01] [Whois] zulu9 has been idle for 18 minutes and 38 seconds. |
| 00:04.08 | ubuntu | [00:01] [Whois] zulu9 has been online since 09/08/08 23:22:55. |
| 00:04.11 | ubuntu | [00:01] [Whois] End of WHOIS list. |
| 00:04.14 | ubuntu | [00:02] <-- t-bronce has left this server (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)). |
| 00:04.14 | gionny | uhm...any op? |
| 00:04.15 | zulu9 | could you please stop that ubuntu |
| 00:04.16 | zulu9 | now! |
| 00:04.17 | ubuntu | [00:02] <zaardvark> omicron23, that's kinda the opposite of the problem I had; my kde4 would crash and not remember half my apps, on logout :/ |
| 00:04.20 | ubuntu | [00:02] <omicron23> kdepepo: when does the session get saved? |
| 00:04.23 | ubuntu | [00:02] <ubuntu> holaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa |
| 00:04.26 | ubuntu | Wizard. |
| 00:04.29 | ubuntu | [00:01] <kdepepo> omicron23, saved session? |
| 00:04.32 | ubuntu | [00:01] <ubuntu> hola |
| 00:04.35 | ubuntu | [00:01] [Whois] zulu9 is n=zulu9@p5B37DF51.dip.t-dialin.net (Thomas) |
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| 00:07.37 | kdepepo | omicron23, systemsettings->advanced->session manager |
| 00:08.56 | omicron23 | kdepepo: thanks. will check that tomorrow.. I am too tired now.. need to go to bed. otherwise I will wake up with an inverted keyboard imprint on my head =) |
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| 00:09.56 | omicron23 | good night to all... |
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| 00:29.19 | mosno | how do i move the panel from top to bottom (kde 4.1)? |
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| 00:29.22 | crs | Hi, how, by useing dcop, can I shutdown my machine? Want to do something exaclty the same when I'd click it on menu... |
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| 00:43.25 | phoul | I must be missing something... is there an easy way to get kopete to recognize a gmail account |
| 00:44.23 | g2g591 | mosno: drag the panel settings thing to the bottom |
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| 00:51.39 | phoul | Hello, Im running opensuse11.0 with kde4.1, Im having one minor issue, For some reason none of the icons on the desktop are showing up except the ones that come stock in opensuse, any ideas? |
| 00:52.23 | mosno | g2g591 that worked thanks |
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| 01:08.55 | N9NU | kde4 |
| 01:09.00 | N9NU | kde 4.2 |
| 01:09.03 | N9NU | wow |
| 01:09.15 | phoul | Hello, Im running opensuse11.0 with kde4.1, Im having one minor issue, For some reason none of the icons on the desktop are showing up except the ones that come stock in opensuse, any ideas? |
| 01:09.47 | Dunedan | phoul: What do you mean with "icons on the desktop"? |
| 01:09.59 | phoul | umm |
| 01:10.04 | phoul | http://imagebin.org/23907 |
| 01:10.05 | phoul | that |
| 01:10.15 | N9NU | icons have to be placed inside a "folder view" which is a desktop widget |
| 01:10.49 | phoul | Well... Why does that work for me then?... |
| 01:11.10 | Dunedan | looks like the folderview is filtered to *.desktop |
| 01:11.14 | Dunedan | just change that |
| 01:11.16 | N9NU | that inturn will open pu another window on top of your desktop...there you can select the default view (home folder, desktop,e tc) |
| 01:11.20 | phoul | Theres no folderview though... |
| 01:11.21 | N9NU | exactly |
| 01:11.31 | phoul | lemme take another shot to show you what i see.... |
| 01:11.32 | N9NU | right click on desktop |
| 01:11.44 | N9NU | then add widgest |
| 01:11.52 | N9NU | option not here? |
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| 01:12.21 | phoul | http://imagebin.org/23909 |
| 01:12.52 | phoul | that doesnt look like a folderview to me |
| 01:12.53 | Dunedan | oh. one widget per icon? |
| 01:13.06 | N9NU | here ya go |
| 01:13.07 | Dunedan | so just add a widget for every icon you want ... |
| 01:14.25 | N9NU | http://digital-audio-pro.us/linux/desktop.jpg |
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| 01:14.49 | phoul | yes thats very nice but it looks nothing like whats on my desktop |
| 01:15.25 | N9NU | when you right click on the desktop, do you get the option to add a widget? |
| 01:15.39 | phoul | Yes. And once again, The folder view widget isnt the same thing |
| 01:16.16 | N9NU | i see |
| 01:16.26 | phoul | Like... here |
| 01:16.28 | Dunedan | phoul: You just have a widget for simple icons. Just use it for every icon you wanna see on your desktop. Or use a folderview for all icons ... |
| 01:16.45 | phoul | drag something from your menu onto the desktop |
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| 01:17.04 | Dunedan | that won't work |
| 01:17.07 | phoul | It does |
| 01:17.15 | Dunedan | ok |
| 01:17.19 | Dunedan | so where's the problem? |
| 01:17.24 | N9NU | or manually put file in the /home/xxx/Desktop/ |
| 01:17.28 | N9NU | with the .desktop ext |
| 01:17.31 | phoul | sighs |
| 01:17.37 | phoul | did you even look at the screenshot |
| 01:17.42 | N9NU | i see what he is sayin |
| 01:17.50 | phoul | It shows whats on the desktop, and in a file viewer, what should be there |
| 01:17.56 | N9NU | he cant right click and select as before |
| 01:18.06 | phoul | ... thats nothing near i was saying before |
| 01:18.10 | phoul | ugg |
| 01:18.33 | N9NU | Dolphin is launched when you click on My Computer |
| 01:18.49 | phoul | feels like hes beating his head against a wall |
| 01:19.10 | N9NU | im lookin right at your sdesktop |
| 01:19.16 | phoul | Yes |
| 01:19.17 | phoul | Now |
| 01:19.21 | phoul | The file viewer |
| 01:19.28 | phoul | Is showing my desktop folder |
| 01:19.28 | N9NU | yes...Dolphin is open |
| 01:19.37 | phoul | now look at my desktop, Most of those except suse default are there |
| 01:19.44 | phoul | now atleast one other is a .desktop |
| 01:19.47 | N9NU | actually Dolphin is in /Home |
| 01:19.52 | phoul | No its not |
| 01:19.53 | N9NU | not the Desktop |
| 01:19.54 | phoul | Look closer |
| 01:20.04 | N9NU | which is an icon within Dolphin |
| 01:20.07 | phoul | first screenshot, |
| 01:20.07 | N9NU | ok |
| 01:20.15 | N9NU | oh i only saw one screenie |
| 01:20.15 | phoul | not the second one showing the highlight |
| 01:20.23 | phoul | http://imagebin.org/23907 |
| 01:20.26 | phoul | That |
| 01:20.56 | N9NU | ok got that one |
| 01:20.58 | phoul | alright |
| 01:21.10 | N9NU | you want to know why the others dont show |
| 01:21.11 | phoul | now thats in my Desktop folder |
| 01:21.13 | phoul | Yes |
| 01:21.22 | phoul | Atleast the monodevelop.desktop -should- show up, no? |
| 01:21.28 | N9NU | .desktop extenion |
| 01:21.36 | phoul | yes, What about the monodevelop one |
| 01:21.37 | N9NU | yes |
| 01:21.39 | N9NU | i see that one |
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| 01:21.44 | phoul | Its not on the desktop |
| 01:21.58 | N9NU | permissions? |
| 01:22.08 | phoul | Should be fine |
| 01:22.29 | phoul | identicle to the ones that show up |
| 01:22.43 | N9NU | i agree |
| 01:22.50 | N9NU | i would delete and re -add it |
| 01:23.21 | phoul | Okay |
| 01:23.22 | N9NU | drag it right off the K button and drop it in there |
| 01:23.30 | phoul | But why uhh..... hmm |
| 01:23.36 | N9NU | or create a link manually |
| 01:23.37 | phoul | Why do people keep saying icons dont work |
| 01:23.58 | N9NU | the icons are like plasmanoids now |
| 01:24.05 | phoul | ohh |
| 01:24.05 | N9NU | the old days are gone |
| 01:24.09 | N9NU | for now |
| 01:24.11 | phoul | thats a shame |
| 01:24.15 | phoul | lol |
| 01:24.20 | phoul | anyways, i will be back soon |
| 01:24.21 | phoul | i need food |
| 01:24.32 | N9NU | yeah i know..it took me 3 months to find out how to put anything on the desktop |
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| 01:39.26 | bashir | is there an kde app that will let me mount .iso files? |
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| 01:41.43 | abbe | bashir: mount -o loop image.iso /mnt/image |
| 01:42.01 | treach | !google kde mount iso |
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| 01:44.41 | bashir | thanks |
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| 01:50.10 | N9NU | ultra iso works in linux via Codeweavers |
| 01:50.14 | N9NU | nice too |
| 01:50.18 | N9NU | or cross over |
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| 01:50.53 | rpag | How can I stop kate from creating backup's when i save a file? |
| 01:52.54 | N9NU | easy |
| 01:53.08 | N9NU | Kate Settings in the toolbar |
| 01:53.33 | N9NU | goto Open/Save then goto Advanced then un check Local Files (Backup on save) |
| 01:53.49 | N9NU | Configure Kate i mean |
| 01:54.44 | rpag | N9NU: Thanks :) |
| 01:54.48 | N9NU | yup |
| 01:54.59 | N9NU | that is frickin annoying i tell ya |
| 01:55.07 | N9NU | i dumped that option from day one |
| 01:55.13 | rpag | Hehe |
| 01:55.15 | rpag | Yeah it's stupid |
| 01:55.30 | rpag | But Kate is awesome apart from that annoying little option |
| 01:55.47 | N9NU | agreed |
| 01:55.54 | N9NU | i still love Pico via the CLI |
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| 02:19.00 | STrRedWolf | Question about Kopete: Is there a way to log individual converstations to individual files like Gaim did? |
| 02:19.45 | STrRedWolf | I'm using KDE 3.5.9 at this time, Kopete 0.12.7. |
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| 03:24.20 | URBrainwashed | anyone know why my windows leave trails without compiz fusion turned on? |
| 03:26.19 | nogagplz | URBrainwashed: Is your video driver installed correctly? And would you stop trolling in #winehq every chance you get also please. It's annoying |
| 03:26.56 | URBrainwashed | no thats offtopic and lie how dare you |
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| 04:08.03 | lioux | are there any metalinks for kde 4.1 sources? |
| 04:08.30 | lioux | means metalink as in http://www.metalinker.org/ |
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| 04:59.37 | LordDragon | hi all |
| 04:59.44 | LordDragon | just installed 4.1 |
| 04:59.47 | supersako | me too |
| 04:59.56 | LordDragon | is it just me, or is there a lack of applets/widgets ? |
| 04:59.59 | supersako | i installed the kdemod 4.1 ;) |
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| 05:00.06 | supersako | i still cant add new widgets |
| 05:00.08 | LordDragon | all i have is kclipper and battery level |
| 05:00.21 | LordDragon | i cant even find a volume control that works with it |
| 05:00.40 | LordDragon | also i tried using apple's widgets, and it always crashes |
| 05:00.47 | LordDragon | anyone get them to work ? |
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| 05:01.51 | supersako | i think its still being worked on LordDragon :( |
| 05:01.59 | supersako | we just gotta be patient |
| 05:02.02 | LordDragon | yeah.. a work in progress it seems :) |
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| 05:34.05 | kinection | is there a way to migrate the config for akregator from kde 3.5 to kde4 ? |
| 05:34.58 | kinection | can i simply copy it over? |
| 05:35.12 | smurfslover | you mean the feeds? |
| 05:35.17 | kinection | yea |
| 05:35.52 | kinection | is there a list of configs that i can just copy over for kde 3.5 -> kde 4? |
| 05:35.59 | kinection | or do i have to test this out myself individually for each package? |
| 05:36.04 | smurfslover | i've done that by copying ~/.kde/share/apps/akregator to ~/.kde4/share/apps/ |
| 05:36.13 | smurfslover | worked for me |
| 05:36.18 | kinection | cool |
| 05:36.28 | kinection | is there a list of configs that are copyable though? |
| 05:36.34 | smurfslover | don't know |
| 05:36.40 | kinection | sounds like a good idea though :) |
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| 05:37.10 | smurfslover | try to import them from akregator itself first |
| 05:37.38 | kinection | i copeid it over it seems ok so far, although akregator just crashed on me |
| 05:38.46 | smurfslover | importing goes fine here |
| 05:39.04 | smurfslover | but i'm on kde 4.1.1 |
| 05:39.16 | kinection | same |
| 05:40.50 | smurfslover | bbl gonna try pardus with kde4 instead of foresight |
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| 05:58.47 | ahorriblemess | hello/ |
| 05:58.49 | ahorriblemess | ? |
| 05:59.32 | ahorriblemess | I'm using irssi and not sure if I'm connected here, of if I'm lagging |
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| 06:13.27 | ApoorvKhatreja | I connected my sony ericsson k530i to my computer via the data cable, and set it to file transfer mode, I got a pop up to mount the device that was detected as "PHONE CARD". When I opened the mounted device in a new window, I got an error message saying "Permissions Denied". How do I fix this? |
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| 06:16.06 | FatDurrel | where do i find the source code for konqeror |
| 06:16.49 | FatDurrel | ? |
| 06:17.00 | scarface88 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 06:19.47 | phoul | FatDurrel: you could check it out of the SVN repo |
| 06:19.59 | phoul | or im sure theres source tarballs on the kde website somewhere |
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| 06:20.16 | FatDurrel | which one is it |
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| 06:40.21 | mosno | Ctrl+B bound to Add Bookmark in konsole of KDE 4.1 -- is this upstream crack, or opensuse crack? |
| 06:46.08 | idzme | how long will kde 3.5 be supported? and is it going to disappear now with 4.1? |
| 06:46.32 | mosno | no, 3.5.10 is due later this year |
| 06:46.59 | idzme | ok, becuase i tried 4.1, but like 3.5 more at this time |
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| 06:59.33 | ebdomino | lu |
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| 07:03.43 | SSJ_GZ | mosno: Upstream. |
| 07:04.05 | mosno | SSJ_GZ: thanks |
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| 07:16.05 | darx | hi, when viewing pdf's in kde 4.1 konqueror, it get artifacts when scrolling. scrolling works fine in okular. |
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| 07:17.23 | darx | I hate okular and would rather konqueror opened everything. |
| 07:18.41 | darx | why the heck should there even be different apps? |
| 07:19.14 | darx | okular doesn't even have tabs. how braindead is that. |
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| 07:58.56 | Wolfcastle | greetings |
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| 07:59.09 | Wolfcastle | is there some channel for kde translators? |
| 07:59.19 | thiago_home | #kde-doc or #kde-i18n |
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| 07:59.23 | thiago_home | or -l10n |
| 07:59.24 | Wolfcastle | thanx |
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| 08:47.36 | flaccid | does kate or any kde text editor etc. have tidy functionality for html files that i can run a function to save me doing it external? |
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| 09:18.24 | tsdh | flaccid: I think kate can pipe the contens of a file to an external app (like htmltidy) and collect the result. |
| 09:21.02 | gkiagia | :S suddenly I got kate writing from right to left... how did I do that? |
| 09:21.34 | GraveDigger | you inserted a special unicode character that tells kate to do so |
| 09:22.21 | GraveDigger | happens to me, too, very often |
| 09:22.30 | GraveDigger | but i dont know which one that is |
| 09:22.32 | GraveDigger | lol |
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| 09:23.50 | gkiagia | heh |
| 09:24.21 | gkiagia | I just highlighted some lines of code and started writing Q_ASSERT(...) on top of it |
| 09:24.32 | gkiagia | strange... |
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| 09:34.51 | bouillot | hello |
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| 09:35.08 | bouillot | does someone here speak french,please? |
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| 09:36.19 | GraveDigger | bouillot: no, but in #kde-fr maybe |
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| 09:36.30 | flaccid | tsdh: hmm ok thanks mate |
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| 09:37.07 | bouillot | thank you Grave Digger, I try just now |
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| 09:38.51 | Phlogi_ | is it possible to define a filter in kmail that does only mark messages as read in a mailinglist if the mails are not answers to a thread I started? |
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| 09:39.56 | GraveDigger | a mail client cannot detect whether or not a mail in an answer to anything, which is why RE: and such stuff is applied to the mail headers |
| 09:40.18 | GraveDigger | this is what one can use to detect certain mails and kmail of course can handle this |
| 09:40.27 | GraveDigger | (variable filter lists) |
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| 09:50.56 | Zygentoma | hej |
| 09:51.16 | Zygentoma | i'm not really good with network-sniffing... |
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| 09:51.44 | Zygentoma | ... but it seams like konqueror does not send my ftp password. |
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| 09:52.28 | buck | hi all |
| 09:52.36 | Zygentoma | hi |
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| 09:57.55 | sandsmark | GraveDigger: most MUA's send with a "References"-header and "In-Reply-To"-header, though |
| 09:58.48 | bouillot | hello again |
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| 09:59.12 | bouillot | don't find anybody one the kde-fr channel |
| 09:59.34 | GraveDigger | sandsmark: as you said: *most* |
| 09:59.43 | bouillot | I'm just a newbee |
| 09:59.54 | sandsmark | GraveDigger: well, pretty much anything but outlook =) |
| 10:00.05 | GraveDigger | lol |
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| 10:01.14 | bouillot | when I connect my HDD Dikam launch, I would like that the system asks me what to do with the new media connect, what should I do? |
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| 10:02.04 | bouillot | I'm using Kde desktop with Spring |
| 10:03.00 | picca | anyone here know of a good kde app that will create DVD gallery from a collection of pictures |
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| 10:04.41 | cpuwolf | my right window bar in konversation shows white and back background |
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| 10:05.06 | cpuwolf | anyone knows what happened |
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| 10:05.55 | cpuwolf | how can I fix it |
| 10:05.57 | cpuwolf | ? |
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| 10:07.01 | bouillot | repost: when I connect my HDD Dikam launch |
| 10:07.19 | bouillot | repost: I would like that the system asks me what to do with the new media connect, what should I do? |
| 10:08.06 | bouillot | digikam, sorry |
| 10:08.28 | sandsmark | bouillot: kde 3 or kde 4? |
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| 10:08.42 | bouillot | i verify, please wit |
| 10:08.45 | bouillot | wait |
| 10:09.12 | bouillot | Kde 3.5 |
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| 10:09.30 | cpuwolf | It seems like it is qt ERROR |
| 10:09.47 | cpuwolf | my right window bar in konversation shows white and back background,anyone knows what happened |
| 10:10.00 | cpuwolf | It seems like it is Qt error |
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| 10:12.36 | weltbaum | when i shut down my pc (using kde3) and there is still a programm running kde will start it automatically on the next start up - how do i avoid that? |
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| 10:14.11 | gutts | http://img397.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snapshot11dw9.png <- Mon desktop |
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| 10:16.01 | bram85 | weltbaum: Control Center -> KDE Components -> Session Management |
| 10:16.07 | Zarin | weltbaum, Control Center... |
| 10:16.12 | Zarin | Bah, just a bit too slow |
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| 10:16.19 | weltbaum | :) |
| 10:16.31 | Zarin | "Start with an empty session" is what you want |
| 10:16.52 | weltbaum | yeah, nice. thank you :) |
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| 10:23.13 | nogagplz | URBrainwashed: Didn't I tell you to stop trolling in #winehq? |
| 10:25.21 | URBrainwashed | i wasnt trolling |
| 10:25.24 | URBrainwashed | i guess talking is trolling |
| 10:25.31 | URBrainwashed | <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< |
| 10:25.40 | URBrainwashed | you guys think acting normal is heresey |
| 10:26.23 | nogagplz | There are offtopic channels for that. Keep it out of the support channels. |
| 10:27.38 | URBrainwashed | i wasnt offtopic |
| 10:27.42 | URBrainwashed | we were discussing wine |
| 10:28.06 | nogagplz | Overclocking is not Wine. |
| 10:28.15 | URBrainwashed | cmon come up with another lie why you had to ban someone that has respect for themselves and doesnt cower to people with a button |
| 10:28.23 | URBrainwashed | i was talking about windows apps for wine |
| 10:28.44 | URBrainwashed | and i wasnt talking about overclocking |
| 10:28.48 | URBrainwashed | i was talking about tweaking |
| 10:29.00 | URBrainwashed | man in the shack thought i was talking about overclocking |
| 10:29.03 | URBrainwashed | cause thats all he knows |
| 10:29.05 | URBrainwashed | hes a noob |
| 10:29.06 | URBrainwashed | like you |
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| 10:29.15 | URBrainwashed | kids think they can own me |
| 10:29.19 | URBrainwashed | im undefeated punk |
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| 10:31.05 | URBrainwashed | reason why i got banned is cause i owned a whole room full of noobs |
| 10:31.15 | URBrainwashed | they were so offended with my knowledge |
| 10:31.17 | URBrainwashed | they had to ban |
| 10:31.35 | nogagplz | Lol. |
| 10:32.15 | nogagplz | I'm not going to dignify that with an answer. This conversation has ended. |
| 10:32.23 | URBrainwashed | all you have is the ban button you cannot ever win the argument |
| 10:32.25 | URBrainwashed | ever |
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| 10:32.36 | URBrainwashed | you will never catch me on every one detail |
| 10:32.39 | URBrainwashed | i never make a mistake |
| 10:32.48 | URBrainwashed | even |
| 10:33.25 | pinotree | nogagplz and URBrainwashed: please bring your personal begging out of here. |
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| 10:34.19 | URBrainwashed | tell nogap hes been doing this all day |
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| 10:34.39 | Half-Left | URBrainwashed: People who bragg the loudest have the smallest ones |
| 10:34.53 | URBrainwashed | who said i bragged |
| 10:34.56 | URBrainwashed | i tell the truth |
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| 10:37.55 | qwero | hello, suddenly my battery plasmoid stopped working (now shows "N/A"); I didn't update any kde component recently, so I guess I messed up some config. Could anyone help me troubleshoot this? thanks |
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| 10:43.05 | jogla | plug in your battery ;) |
| 10:44.06 | Macer | hm.. i'm installing kde4 |
| 10:44.09 | Macer | hope it doesn't suck |
| 10:44.23 | Macer | i've heard it does though.. but hey... i'm not one to judge from other people's judgements :) |
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| 10:45.13 | qwero | jogla: um, nice try :) info in /proc/acpi/battery and /sys/bus/acpi are correct, so definitely my battery is there and detected by the system |
| 10:45.47 | sandsmark | qwero: is hal working? |
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| 10:48.11 | qwero | sandsmark: the daemon wasn't started, I may have accidentally removed it from the boot-up list |
| 10:48.46 | qwero | sandsmark: I now started it, but still |
| 10:49.10 | sandsmark | still what? |
| 10:49.11 | qwero | sandsmark: a new instance of the battery monitor gives "N/A"; I'll try restarting kde |
| 10:49.13 | sandsmark | still not working? |
| 10:49.14 | sandsmark | k |
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| 10:53.34 | quero | sandsmark: now it's fine, thanks mate! |
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| 10:54.01 | sandsmark | np =) |
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| 10:59.53 | CyBaH | hi all o/ |
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| 11:00.35 | GraveDigger | o/ |
| 11:01.18 | sandsmark | _o/ \o_ |
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| 11:05.03 | proteusguy | running kde 3.5.9 under kubuntu hardy. my konqueror help describes a 'show terminal emulator' option but i can't seem to find it anywhere. any ideas? |
| 11:05.31 | pinotree | tools → ... |
| 11:06.23 | proteusguy | pinotree: nope - not there. |
| 11:06.33 | pinotree | install konsole? |
| 11:06.58 | proteusguy | yes its there and being used. |
| 11:07.06 | picca | proteusguy: i think you need kdeaddons |
| 11:07.54 | picca | kdeaddons provides the additional plugins |
| 11:07.56 | proteusguy | picca: apparently already installed as well. :( |
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| 11:08.49 | picca | proteusguy: kdeadmin is where the konq plugins are, but if you have that installed then i am not sure why it doesn't show up under tools as "Open Terminal" |
| 11:09.09 | picca | proteusguy: what happens when you press F4 in konqueror |
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| 11:09.25 | proteusguy | f4 pops up konsole |
| 11:09.35 | picca | but nothing under the tools menu? |
| 11:09.57 | picca | if F4 pops up the konsole then you have it installed |
| 11:10.18 | proteusguy | tools has several items but none related to this. |
| 11:10.27 | picca | not even "Open Terminal" |
| 11:10.33 | proteusguy | nope |
| 11:10.42 | picca | i have never encountered that before :( |
| 11:11.41 | proteusguy | picca: you running ubuntu? i wonder if they've "customized" it some how. |
| 11:12.01 | picca | proteusguy: i am running an LinuxFromScratch system |
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| 11:12.11 | picca | possibly they've customized - never used ubuntu |
| 11:12.33 | proteusguy | ah :) i used to always build kde from scratch myself but kubuntu making me lazy... |
| 11:13.00 | proteusguy | i'll go hassle the #ubuntu channel and see what they say... thanx. |
| 11:13.03 | picca | incidently we are talking kde 3.5.x here? |
| 11:13.14 | proteusguy | 3.5.9 |
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| 11:13.26 | picca | okay, using 3.5.8 here but shouldn't make any difference |
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| 11:24.54 | lostson | anyone else using kdepim 4.1 and seeing when sending akkregator to the system tray when clicking on the tray icon to bring it back it comes back in a small window instead of the size you set it to ? |
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| 11:27.38 | techouse | is anyone else here getting this when starting ktorrent in kde 4.1: KDEInit could not launch '/usr/bin/ktorrent'. |
| 11:27.49 | sandsmark | lostson: yes |
| 11:27.50 | sandsmark | techouse: yes |
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| 11:28.06 | lostson | yes its a known bug techouse you need to update ktorrent |
| 11:28.18 | techouse | hmm |
| 11:28.24 | techouse | zypper shows no updates |
| 11:28.25 | lostson | sandsmark:: ok thanks time to file a bug |
| 11:28.26 | mnemo | how can I "Go To Definition" inside kscope? |
| 11:29.40 | techouse | lostson: it's just a harmless error msg, cause the app then runs normally... but i'd rather wait for the guys at opensuse to update the repo than doing somehting on my own from svn |
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| 11:31.09 | weatherhead | hey guys, I'm trying to print something out in KDE4 |
| 11:31.12 | weatherhead | 4.1 |
| 11:31.17 | sandsmark | with okular? |
| 11:31.22 | weatherhead | yes, actually |
| 11:31.26 | sandsmark | it's a known bug in qt =) |
| 11:31.37 | weatherhead | I notice that there's an option for "duplex printing" but it's greyed out for me |
| 11:31.48 | weatherhead | eve though I have a duplex printer which used to work fine in kprinter under kDE3 |
| 11:31.59 | weatherhead | this happensin all applications, not just okular |
| 11:32.39 | pinotree | there is no kdeprint in kde4 |
| 11:33.27 | weatherhead | I realise that. |
| 11:33.47 | weatherhead | I thought I saw something about them trying to port the functinos that were in KDE3 over at some point |
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| 11:34.30 | weatherhead | if not, is there a way of using kprinter from kde3 within kde4 |
| 11:34.35 | grgdorn | how do i get kde 4.1 for debian? do i have to download from experimental or can i download the source and just compile and install? |
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| 11:35.23 | pinotree | weatherhead: no. |
| 11:35.29 | pinotree | grgdorn: #debian-kde |
| 11:35.54 | grgdorn | thx |
| 11:36.34 | weatherhead | pinotree: no to my first, no to my second, or no to both? |
| 11:36.46 | pinotree | all of them |
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| 11:37.10 | weatherhead | so, there is likely never to be a way to use these features in kde4, unless I write it? |
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| 11:42.38 | chelg_ | kdesupport/phonon/phonon/moc_streaminterface.cpp seems to be broken here, I can't compile it |
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| 11:43.21 | techouse | weatherhead: just use cups via localhist:631 |
| 11:43.29 | techouse | localhost:631* |
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| 11:44.11 | weatherhead | techouse: ok yes, I suppose that is an option, hehe |
| 11:44.33 | techouse | well...that's the only logical option :D |
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| 11:44.46 | techouse | besides, you'll get a network printer if you install samba :D |
| 11:45.23 | weatherhead | techouse: my printer is a network printer |
| 11:45.36 | weatherhead | using it through HPLIP |
| 11:47.06 | techouse | then i see no problem that you couldn't set it up via cups' localhost:631 |
| 11:47.23 | weatherhead | no, there isn't a problem, and that's what I've done |
| 11:47.33 | weatherhead | it just annoys me that I used to be able to go file print and select duplex |
| 11:47.33 | thinkgnu | what is the problem with my widgets in kde4 ? http://i36.tinypic.com/2evtbmb.png it's my twitter widget for example .. |
| 11:47.40 | Macer | hm |
| 11:47.42 | Macer | cmake huh? |
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| 11:48.08 | techouse | Macer: ? cmake aka cross-make |
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| 11:50.32 | thinkgnu | any idea? |
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| 12:03.33 | pbm | is it possible to turn off "favorites folders" in kmail (in 4.1)? |
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| 12:04.15 | Goliath23 | pbm: yes, check settings->appearance |
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| 12:04.31 | Machtin | howdy. i installed that quicklauncher-plugin to be able to add quicklaunch-icons on 4.1.. now i can add the space where program-buttons are to be added, but i can't drag&drop the programbuttons there. |
| 12:04.56 | Machtin | neither have i the right-click-settings for the quicklaunch-plugin |
| 12:05.44 | pbm | Goliath23: thx.. there is too much tabs, so i missed that when i was looking for it.. ;) |
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| 12:06.21 | thinkgnu | what is the problem with my widgets in kde4 ? http://i36.tinypic.com/2evtbmb.png it's my twitter widget for example .. |
| 12:06.35 | Goliath23 | pbm: :) |
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| 13:03.06 | timte | How do I get an unzip entry en the right click menu on archived files in Dolphin? |
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| 13:04.35 | lostson | timte:: install this http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/Extract+And+Compress+KDE4?content=84206 |
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| 13:14.00 | thinkgnu | lostson: where is service menu path ? |
| 13:14.10 | timte | was just going to ask that :) |
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| 13:14.28 | kde41 | hi |
| 13:15.03 | kde41 | can I ask about dolphin here or is there a better chan? |
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| 13:16.01 | thinkgnu | i installed ExtractAndCompress_v1.4.2 and it says where is service menu path ? |
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| 13:17.19 | lostson | for ther service menu check out the site he has a write up on how to use it http://www.sharpley.org.uk/page/software/servicemenu |
| 13:18.09 | MementoMori | anyway I try: dolphin doesnt copy posix acl permissions when copying dir/files. |
| 13:19.09 | MementoMori | and I havent found a way to set default posix acl rights to directories |
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| 13:20.34 | Psychey | Lo guys. Any of you using Kile and the ECMAScripts? If so, do you know if it's possible to add a keyboard shortcut to these scripts (so you don't have to go to the "scripts" tab and execute them with the mouse every time)? |
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| 13:22.44 | tuxick | isn't there some way for konq to show info about images through rightclick? |
| 13:22.58 | maazu | hey does anyone here in charge of kde-windows? |
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| 13:23.39 | thiago | maazu: your sentence is missing a verb |
| 13:23.40 | maazu | they rub out gui class kdialogbase.h |
| 13:23.53 | maazu | all that is left now is kdialog.h |
| 13:23.57 | thiago | do you want to know who is in charge? |
| 13:24.03 | maazu | who? |
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| 13:24.20 | thiago | no one |
| 13:24.29 | tuxick | ow never mind |
| 13:24.32 | maazu | exhales in fustration |
| 13:24.37 | maazu | :( |
| 13:24.44 | thiago | maazu: what's your issue? |
| 13:25.08 | maazu | i have a dialog window that inherits kdialogbase.h |
| 13:25.24 | maazu | it is no longer available |
| 13:25.34 | thiago | when was it removed? |
| 13:25.42 | maazu | kde-windows |
| 13:25.58 | maazu | http://windows.kde.org/ |
| 13:26.37 | maazu | i try to compile some kde tutorial on Windows Vista |
| 13:26.52 | thiago | there's no kdialogbase.h in KDE |
| 13:27.24 | thiago | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:27.29 | thiago | Date: Tue Jun 6 12:46:33 2006 +0000 |
| 13:28.11 | maazu | since 06... kde3 then |
| 13:28.26 | thiago | yes |
| 13:28.27 | maazu | anyway, i'd goto #kde-windows |
| 13:28.31 | thiago | ok |
| 13:28.37 | maazu | thank you thiago |
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| 13:28.46 | Psychey | *bump* Any of you using Kile and the ECMAScripts? If so, do you know if it's possible to add a keyboard shortcut to these scripts (so you don't have to go to the "scripts" tab and execute them with the mouse every time)? Thanks in advance. |
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| 13:31.27 | thinkgnu | which dictionary do you use ? |
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| 13:32.59 | Mace` | wow.. could kde4 look any more "vista" ? :) |
| 13:33.23 | Mace` | i had to check my kvm to make sure i hadn't accidently hooked up my gf's laptop to it |
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| 13:36.41 | rushfan | Mace`: there are themes... |
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| 13:38.14 | Psychey | thinkgnu: Not sure if that message was aimed at me, and if it was I am not sure what you mean. I am using Kile 2.0.0. |
| 13:39.34 | thinkgnu | Psychey: no i mean multilingual dictionary like babylon for windows . |
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| 13:42.49 | SSJ_GZ | Psychey: That's a very niche question - I'd suggest e-mailing the developer. |
| 13:43.09 | Psychey | thinkgnu: Ispell http://www.gnu.org/software/ispell/ispell.html |
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| 13:43.16 | maazu | SSJ_GZ: do you write apps for kde? |
| 13:43.43 | SSJ_GZ | maazu: I've very recently started hacking on KDE - no apps yet, though ;) |
| 13:44.12 | maazu | well you'd be interested to know that starting with KDE4 there will be no kdialogbase, just kdialog |
| 13:44.14 | SSJ_GZ | Psychey: There's a mailing list here: http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_name=kile-devel&max_rows=25&style=ultimate&viewmonth=200807 |
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| 13:44.46 | sandsmark | maazu: why? |
| 13:45.07 | maazu | i dont know why, right now i think of making changes in my app |
| 13:45.29 | maazu | maybe i should wait for Fedora 10 release? |
| 13:45.35 | Psychey | SSJ_GZ: Might just do that :) It would certainly speed up my typing flow :) |
| 13:45.41 | maazu | then there will be kde4 documentation |
| 13:45.56 | maazu | right now, things are fuzzy right? |
| 13:45.57 | SSJ_GZ | Psychey: Cool - I'd imagine others would like to see the feature, too! |
| 13:46.05 | sandsmark | maazu: tried api.kde.org? |
| 13:46.09 | maazu | classes are changing by the night? |
| 13:46.09 | sandsmark | maazu: or techbase.kde.org |
| 13:46.18 | sandsmark | maazu: no, the api is pretty stable |
| 13:46.24 | sandsmark | (in 4.1, at least) |
| 13:46.26 | maazu | sandsmark: will check them out |
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| 13:47.41 | MementoMori | anyone about dolphin and acl? |
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| 13:59.24 | maazu | ok, my distro is still with Kde 4.0.3 |
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| 13:59.39 | maazu | i should wait for the next distro release then |
| 14:01.13 | Sho_ | Anyone else getting ksystraycmd crashes on KDE 4.1.0? |
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| 14:22.00 | bgmiki | http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/15/92861327ua3.jpg ...karamba works in kde4.1 |
| 14:22.02 | bgmiki | :) |
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| 14:32.45 | thinkgnu | how can i add create new folder to dolphin ? |
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| 14:38.52 | gianni | c'è qualcun???? |
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| 14:42.04 | Freddie` | hello all |
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| 14:42.32 | Freddie` | i'm using kmail 1.9.9 on debian lenny, i've imported my emails from a local mbox file |
| 14:43.02 | fib1908 | Hey all I have a prob in kde4-kwin crash |
| 14:43.06 | Freddie` | but kmail burned the file, and now its size is 0, and i want to get my emails back in the mbox file |
| 14:43.15 | Freddie` | what can I do ? |
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| 14:45.00 | fib1908 | any helpp?!! |
| 14:45.35 | thiago | fib1908: turn effects off |
| 14:45.42 | ebdomino | bgmiki how did you do to get liquid weather to work? |
| 14:46.02 | sandsmark | bgmiki: did you have to patch liquidweather for it to import the latest pyqt? |
| 14:46.03 | bgmiki | ebdomino, don't know |
| 14:46.04 | bgmiki | lol |
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| 14:46.17 | ebdomino | lol |
| 14:46.25 | sandsmark | =p |
| 14:46.25 | bgmiki | crash so many times and now works |
| 14:46.26 | bgmiki | :) |
| 14:46.44 | fib1908 | thiago: ohh! I have 128 NVDIA Geforce FX 5200 and it works well with the restrcited drivers in GNOME so why doesn't it in Kwin ? |
| 14:47.10 | thiago | because nvidia drivers aren't that good |
| 14:47.10 | sandsmark | fib1908: because Gnome uses technology from 1990, and doesn't have pretty effects |
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| 14:47.23 | thiago | kwin is very slow with nvidia |
| 14:47.26 | thiago | get an Intel card |
| 14:47.42 | fib1908 | thiago: I'm a poor Indian |
| 14:47.51 | thiago | Intel is cheaper |
| 14:48.00 | thiago | anyways, turn the effects off |
| 14:48.01 | Zarin | fib1908, does it still crash with effects disabled? |
| 14:48.01 | sandsmark | fib1908: nvidia is said to be working on fixing it |
| 14:48.05 | thiago | that should make the problems go away |
| 14:48.13 | Freddie` | any hint for kmail ? |
| 14:48.37 | fib1908 | I dunno but it happens almost randomly never tried with effects off Zarin |
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| 14:49.17 | fib1908 | Will try it |
| 14:49.26 | Zarin | Thanks |
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| 14:49.53 | fib1908 | That's ok! and another thing is ..I have a prob with..err..getting better looks on kde |
| 14:50.14 | fib1908 | For ex: I have tried dload as many themes as possible but unable to install 'em |
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| 14:50.17 | abbe | hi all |
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| 14:50.34 | SSJ_GZ | Freddie`: kmail stores its mail in ~/.kde/share/apps/kmail/mail (and subdirectories) so you can always copy them out of there if you selected "mbox" format. |
| 14:50.34 | abbe | I'm running kde 4.1 with kdepim installed on gentoo gnu/linux |
| 14:50.54 | fib1908 | hi abbe |
| 14:51.06 | abbe | hi fib1908 |
| 14:51.28 | abbe | I've opted for maildir in my kmail. My mailbox is in maildir, and my folders are also in maildir |
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| 14:51.58 | abbe | I'm not able to add my ~/.maildir in its 'Receiving' dialog box. |
| 14:52.01 | Freddie` | SSJ_GZ: does it uses maildir ?? |
| 14:52.27 | abbe | I even tried symlinking ~/.maildir to ~/Maildir but that also doesn't gets added |
| 14:52.30 | SSJ_GZ | Freddie`: I think you can tell it what format to use. |
| 14:52.34 | abbe | any ideas ? |
| 14:52.46 | fib1908 | guyz any idea abt the theme ? and..why doesn't I get kde4,1 displayed in the synaptic package list when I hit the same ? (Although I reloaded it several times ? ) |
| 14:52.59 | fib1908 | *sry why don't I get ? |
| 14:53.19 | fib1908 | currently using ubuntu on GNOME :) |
| 14:53.43 | weatherhead | fib1908: this is likely to be an #ubuntu question :-) |
| 14:53.53 | fib1908 | but it's related to kde4.1 |
| 14:54.10 | fib1908 | why would it display 4 version alone ? weathered |
| 14:54.20 | weatherhead | fib1908: I don't know anything about ubuntu or GNOME |
| 14:54.20 | fib1908 | weatherhead: ? |
| 14:54.23 | weatherhead | sorry |
| 14:54.51 | weatherhead | maybe the packaged named "kde4" are actually the latest |
| 14:54.58 | weatherhead | check the version numbers |
| 14:55.25 | fib1908 | hm..I thought version 4.1 is more stable and..so wanted to dload it overnight today any suggestions on how to get that 4.1 displayed on the list ?(Do I have too need to add some repositories etc ?) Please help someone |
| 14:55.50 | weatherhead | fib1908: join #ubuntu and ask there |
| 14:56.44 | fib1908 | ok thanks done it Thanks weatherhead |
| 14:57.50 | fib1908 | so any developers out here so that I can pm my kwin crash and plasma crash report ? |
| 14:58.08 | weatherhead | fib |
| 14:58.09 | Zarin | fib1908, does the crash report have debugging symbols? |
| 14:58.20 | fib1908 | yes Zarin |
| 14:58.35 | Zarin | fib1908, send to me thanks |
| 14:58.37 | abbe | any ideas about my problem ? |
| 14:58.41 | Zarin | For KWin anyway |
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| 15:01.32 | FreakGuard | where to config the kopete popups? (position, time they stay and so on) |
| 15:03.02 | techouse | is baghira availible for kde 4? |
| 15:03.03 | fib1908 | Thanks all u r lovely ---Love this channel |
| 15:05.41 | abbe | techouse: http://digg.com/linux_unix/KDE4_theme_based_on_Oxygen_style_the_new_Baghira_PIC |
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| 15:09.44 | Freddie` | kmail sucks, anyway. |
| 15:09.59 | jazka | sucks? how come? |
| 15:10.33 | weatherhead | thinks "kwin FTW" |
| 15:10.57 | weatherhead | also thinks "kmail FTW" |
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| 15:38.03 | ziggy | fuck you |
| 15:38.19 | ziggy | fuck you |
| 15:38.31 | jazka | and you |
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| 15:39.16 | ziggy | sorry |
| 15:39.18 | ziggy | misdirected |
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| 15:39.23 | nyws | hello all |
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| 15:40.00 | nyws | i'm planning to install kde in some computer in my network. I want to know if it's possible to restrict the user right for some users ? |
| 15:40.53 | nyws | cf , not droping the icon in the trash , not be able to modify the menus etc |
| 15:40.58 | nyws | is it possible ? |
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| 15:42.59 | greg_ | hi all, I've looked for an answer on line but no one seems to have it. Is there a way to hide the new plasma bar in 4.1? I have an app that insist on using the area at the bottom of the screen and it's annoying to have to move the plasma bar to get to it. A simple hide and unhide would be better. |
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| 15:46.59 | weatherhead | greg_: do you mean the panel |
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| 15:58.15 | Winst | Hello people, i'm using suse 11. I just tried out the remote desktop from kde4 to another windows pc, clicked on the fullscreen mode. The question is : how do i get back to my kde desktop ? the menu is gone, and i hope there's a shortcut to exit the fullscreen mode ? (i'm typing from the windows pc T_T) |
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| 16:00.44 | SSJ_GZ | Winst: Try CTRL+SHIFT+F |
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| 16:01.41 | Winst | SSJ_GZ: thanks, i tried that, but the 'search window' in mirc popped out .. |
| 16:01.57 | SSJ_GZ | Winst: Hang on - I'll investigate ... |
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| 16:02.31 | Winst | SSJ_GZ: ok .. |
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| 16:03.10 | SSJ_GZ | Winst: Hmm ... in my version, the menu can be summoned by moving the cursor to the top of the screen. |
| 16:03.35 | Winst | SSJ_GZ: Are you using KDE 4.1 ? |
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| 16:03.49 | SSJ_GZ | Winst: Near enough (svn trunk as of a few days ago) |
| 16:03.50 | Winst | SSJ_GZ: Mine is 4.0, default installation from opensuse 11 dvd |
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| 16:03.58 | SSJ_GZ | Winst: Ah. |
| 16:04.18 | SSJ_GZ | Winst: If the worst comes to the worst, you can probably switch to a virtual terminal and kill krdc from there. |
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| 16:05.31 | Winst | SSJ_GZ: Okay, i think i'll resort to that way .. |
| 16:05.36 | SSJ_GZ | k |
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| 16:06.03 | Winst | SSJ_GZ: thanks, and bye :D |
| 16:06.08 | SSJ_GZ | np :) |
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| 16:38.31 | thinkgnu | how can i add create new folder to dolphin ????? |
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| 16:46.27 | FeyFre | .éãøå |
| 16:46.27 | sandsmark | ÆØÅ? |
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| 16:48.48 | Widget | how do you rip a cd in kde 4.1? audiokreator seems to have gone, the hardware detection stuff isn't detecting the CD, and the old media:/ link doesn't work in dolphin to use the kioslave |
| 16:48.59 | __aib | what's the status of KDE 4 on OS X? |
| 16:49.36 | sandsmark | Widget: tried the "audiocd:/" thingy? |
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| 16:51.39 | Widget | sandsmark: says doesn't have read permissions, so i presume i'm missing some required group |
| 16:52.07 | sandsmark | optical, probably |
| 16:52.10 | sandsmark | (depending on your distro) |
| 16:52.56 | Widget | it used to be plugdev in gentoo, which i'm still in |
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| 16:53.39 | Widget | sandsmark: groups i'm in: "tty wheel uucp audio cdrom video games cdrw usb users plugdev kvm" |
| 16:53.59 | sandsmark | hmm, weird |
| 16:54.11 | sandsmark | I'm not familiar with permissions in gentoo, unfortunately =/ |
| 16:54.29 | thinkgnu | why we don't have create new folder in dolphin ? |
| 16:54.34 | Widget | sandsmark: i was until kde 4.1 installed |
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| 16:54.58 | sandsmark | thinkgnu: right-click, new folder? |
| 16:55.01 | Widget | thinkgnu: i do - in the file menu, and as a right-click event |
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| 16:55.25 | thinkgnu | no , not in kde4.1 |
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| 16:55.56 | sandsmark | it is here |
| 16:55.58 | thinkgnu | Dolphin Version 1.1 Using KDE 4.1.00 (KDE 4.1.0) |
| 16:56.15 | Widget | that's the version i've got |
| 16:56.42 | thinkgnu | Widget: you have create new folder ? |
| 16:56.54 | Widget | thinkgnu: yup |
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| 16:57.07 | thinkgnu | i have just create new > link to device |
| 16:57.15 | thinkgnu | ! |
| 16:57.30 | sandsmark | thinkgnu: which distro? |
| 16:57.38 | thinkgnu | kubuntu 8.04 |
| 16:57.53 | sandsmark | ask in #kubuntu, then |
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| 16:58.56 | laiao5 | http://www.freepenguin.it/forum/index.php |
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| 16:59.28 | Krooks | Anyone using KDE-4.2 as in KDE head ? |
| 16:59.35 | sandsmark | would it be bad of me to troll that forum now? |
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| 17:00.53 | Widget | hmm, i'm still getting "no read permission" from audiocd:/ when i've 777'ed the devnode |
| 17:01.02 | Widget | must be looking at the wrong one |
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| 17:02.15 | Krooks | Is there no quick launcher widget for the panel ? |
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| 17:07.13 | topspin | I made a mistake and used Ktorrent. Now it auto-start every login for not reason. Nothing in ~/.kde/autostart, nothing in control center components for ktorrent. What must I do to cease being haunted by Ktorrent? |
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| 17:08.53 | Widget | is it possible to increase the vertical height of the main panel like in 3.5? |
| 17:09.05 | Krooks | Widget: yes |
| 17:09.39 | Widget | Krooks: how? |
| 17:10.07 | Krooks | Widget: right click on panel: panel settins |
| 17:10.18 | Widget | Krooks: yeah, found that bit |
| 17:10.34 | Krooks | Then put your mouse at the top of the line |
| 17:10.41 | Widget | aha |
| 17:10.52 | Widget | i was trying dragging the panel, but it's the top of the addon bit |
| 17:10.59 | Widget | too user friendly for me :D |
| 17:11.04 | Krooks | :D |
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| 17:11.18 | Krooks | you know now ? |
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| 17:12.23 | zigovr | hi all, I have a strange problem, lots of applications take lots of time to startup from the KDE menu (or quick launcher), but are very quick when started from a console. One such long to start application is "konsole" for example |
| 17:13.01 | zigovr | so, what different between using the KDE menu and launching directly from a shell ? How could I trace what's going on when using the menu ? |
| 17:13.13 | Krooks | zigovr: KDE-3.5 ? |
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| 17:13.27 | zigovr | Krooks: yes, with Xgl and compiz I should mention too |
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| 17:16.57 | zigovr | also, the CPU stays idle during this time |
| 17:17.06 | zigovr | or almost, with no disk activities either |
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| 17:19.26 | babeck | Hello, I was wondering if anyone else was able to get the Apple dashboard NBC Olympic widget to work with plasma? (http://www.nbcolympics.com/widgets/index.html) |
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| 17:19.49 | babeck | I can get it to appear, but clicking on the stories does nothing. |
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| 17:20.22 | dios | task bar |
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| 17:34.34 | MostAwesomeDude | One question. Would you say that, in your experience, you've experienced less buggies with Kopete, as compared to Pidgin? |
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| 17:37.10 | dps | Hey guys, any idea to avoid those weird images on the systray? |
| 17:37.13 | dps | Kde 4.1 |
| 17:37.34 | dps | It's allso lovelly... and those weird backgroud corruptions are really annoying |
| 17:38.47 | Kraplax_away | sorry, am i missing something? where is aKademy? is it in Beijing or in 'Belgium near Mechelen'? |
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| 17:40.54 | brain0 | okay, I just switched from kde 3.5.9 to kde 4.1 and I am annoyed: 1) when I launch xbindkeys, my keyboard stops responding (well, it still works for some stuff, but I cannot type a thing), 2) there is no system monitor plasmoid that I can find, 3) khotkeys simply ignores hotkeys I am adding (correct that, I successfully added exactly 1 hotkey, the other ones don't work), 4) the applet for locking the screen and logging out is big and ugly, 5) I can |
| 17:41.09 | brain0 | well, I could go on and on, but I'd be glad if someone could help me with the khotkey problem |
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| 17:41.53 | sandsmark | brain0: 1 and 3 aren't KDE's problem =D, for 2 there is one available, I think on kde-look.org, 4; I like it, and your 5. was cut off |
| 17:41.58 | sandsmark | (try using another IRC client) |
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| 17:42.17 | brain0 | okay, 3 IS kde's problem |
| 17:42.23 | brain0 | because khotkeys simply doesn't work |
| 17:42.41 | brain0 | I only tried khotkeys because xbindkeys stopped working |
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| 17:43.19 | sandsmark | xbindkeys != kde |
| 17:43.35 | brain0 | talking about khotkeys here |
| 17:43.56 | sandsmark | oh, I misread =) |
| 17:43.59 | brain0 | xbindkeys wouldn't work anymore, so I want to add all my key bindings to khotkeys |
| 17:44.16 | brain0 | I added meta+T and it works, then I added meta+U, which is simply ignored |
| 17:44.22 | brain0 | as any other key binding I add |
| 17:44.31 | cb400f | started using keytouch when kde 4.1 upgrade broke his multimedia keys |
| 17:44.37 | brain0 | well, I added meta+t, then placed it inside a group and added more inside that group |
| 17:44.52 | brain0 | and everything I added inside that group is ignored |
| 17:44.56 | chakie | can kde 4.1 handle some kind of hotkeys and/or mouse gestures? |
| 17:45.08 | chakie | i didn't find anything like that when i looked |
| 17:45.24 | chakie | and my old gestures stopped working |
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| 17:46.03 | brain0 | well, and, it would be nice to have a hotkey for switching desktops |
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| 17:46.28 | abbe | anyone using kmail in kde 4.1 ? |
| 17:47.24 | gnumm | is there any webcam app for kde? |
| 17:47.32 | cb400f | webkam |
| 17:47.48 | abbe | esp. using maildir mailboxen |
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| 17:52.41 | cb400f | abbe: maildir is the default right? .. I use it |
| 17:53.07 | Krooks | I hope plasma is greatly improved in 4.2 |
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| 17:53.53 | Krooks | Although it is ok in 4.1, stills feel like something imcomplete |
| 17:54.07 | _prophecy_ | Does the seach feature of kickoff really depend on beagle? |
| 17:54.08 | Widget | is the installing a plasmoid from kde-look supposed to work? they say "installed" but don't appear in my list to choose from |
| 17:54.26 | sandsmark | _prophecy_: in kde 3? I think so |
| 17:54.27 | abbe | cb400f: okay, cool. I'm having a problem in it. |
| 17:54.30 | sandsmark | in KDE 4 strigi pwns |
| 17:54.36 | sandsmark | Widget: no |
| 17:54.38 | _prophecy_ | Well I am running SVN |
| 17:54.42 | sandsmark | svn what |
| 17:54.46 | _prophecy_ | kde SVN |
| 17:54.49 | abbe | cb400f: I'm not able to add my receiving mailbox in the list, i.e. my ~/.maildir . |
| 17:54.49 | sandsmark | yes, still |
| 17:54.54 | sandsmark | _prophecy_: kde 2 is still in svn |
| 17:54.54 | Krooks | Widget: it does not work. |
| 17:55.01 | _prophecy_ | trunk |
| 17:55.02 | Krooks | Widget : same here |
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| 17:55.11 | abbe | cb400f: I even symlinked ~/Maildir to ~/.maildir and tried to add ~/Maildir, but that also is not working |
| 17:55.16 | Widget | well, then that's why it doesn't work here :D i'll download manually then |
| 17:55.26 | Widget | now I know i'm not defective |
| 17:55.35 | _prophecy_ | I thought that everything KDE4 was going to go to nepomuk |
| 17:55.42 | Krooks | Widget : :D |
| 17:56.01 | abbe | cb400f: I can select the folder in the folder selection dialog box, but it never gets listed in the receiving kmail |
| 17:56.07 | brain0 | okay, can anyone tell me why khotkeys ignore my hotkeys? |
| 17:56.08 | abbe | cb400f: 's receiving dialog box. |
| 17:56.17 | Krooks | _prophecy_: the prophecy not come yet |
| 17:56.34 | _prophecy_ | humm |
| 17:56.40 | cb400f | brain0: I think your first impulse was correct.. it simply doesn't work |
| 17:56.45 | cb400f | .. like so many things |
| 17:56.54 | _prophecy_ | so the answer is that I need to install beagle to get that to work... |
| 17:56.54 | brain0 | well, it works for one hotkey |
| 17:57.19 | _prophecy_ | Humm, and I just realized that my nepomuk daemon is not running. |
| 17:58.06 | brain0 | cb400f: it works for one and not for the rest |
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| 18:00.52 | [I-C-Wiener] | hi, I'm wrinting a small Qt4 app and like to add some icons for stuff like "new file". Instead of compiling any png-files into the executable I would prefer to use the icons that come with the user's kde-theme. |
| 18:01.00 | [I-C-Wiener] | Any idea how to do that? |
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| 18:03.29 | [I-C-Wiener] | I mean, is there a symlink set to the user's icon-theme somewhere or are those icons being accessed through a library? |
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| 18:08.05 | brain0 | okay, now khotkeys doesn't work at all |
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| 18:10.34 | sandsmark | is it possible to rename wallets in kwallet? |
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| 18:11.47 | jogla | move wallets kwallet |
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| 18:14.41 | tampakrap | kdm crashes imme |
| 18:14.53 | tampakrap | *immediatelly |
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| 18:15.09 | sandsmark | hmm, merging of kwallets would be nice |
| 18:15.16 | tampakrap | i tried several xorg.conf's could it be something else? |
| 18:15.22 | sandsmark | and damn, don't you think that option exists.. =D |
| 18:15.27 | sandsmark | I love KDE =D=D=D=D |
| 18:15.39 | lilltiger | tampakrap: try to start X without kdm |
| 18:15.39 | Widget | wow, kde 4.1 doesn't like running out of mem, i've got kvm compiling, and getting onto the swap really makes everything suddenly stop |
| 18:16.05 | tampakrap | lilltiger: already tried it |
| 18:16.08 | lilltiger | Widget: that dosent have to do with kde4 it's the new kernel |
| 18:16.18 | lilltiger | tampakrap: and does it start? |
| 18:16.22 | tampakrap | yes |
| 18:16.44 | tampakrap | also gdm and kde env work ok |
| 18:16.46 | Widget | lilltiger: only if i'm running it :) |
| 18:16.57 | Widget | admittedly not many things in linux like running out of ram |
| 18:17.02 | lilltiger | tampakrap: check the kdm log file |
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| 18:17.54 | lilltiger | Widget: indeedand whenin cli one dosent noramly multitask several apps with high requirements |
| 18:18.22 | Widget | lilltiger: well, true |
| 18:18.46 | lilltiger | Widget: the never linux kernels with the modern shedulers does get into trulbles when swapping starts and you have a preemtive kernel |
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| 18:20.08 | lilltiger | Widget: esp if you are listening to music at the same time, as the sound output often has an realtime IO priority |
| 18:20.38 | Widget | lilltiger: i believe nonjerky sound was something that linux lacked a few years back |
| 18:21.04 | neobalam | Hi! I have some problems with kgpg and ssh-agent, Please help me! |
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| 18:21.31 | lilltiger | Widget: naa been possible for quite a while, but erlier it required patches to the kernel or to run oss |
| 18:22.24 | lilltiger | Widget: but nw they are aimin on making it work without realtime sheduling wich will remove the swaping issue |
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| 18:26.12 | Widget | gtg |
| 18:26.46 | tampakrap | lilltiger: http://linuxteam.cs.teilar.gr/~tampakrap/kdm.log that's the kdm.log if it helps |
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| 18:27.02 | gkiagia | damn you klipper... why copy paste doesn't work out of the box???? :@ |
| 18:27.18 | gkiagia | I have to copy, then select the text in klipper and then paste! |
| 18:27.31 | lilltiger | tampakrap: looks like an issues with dbus |
| 18:27.42 | gkiagia | thinks it would be awesome to skip the second step... :P |
| 18:27.50 | GraveDigger | nice! i am really impressed of konqueror in kde4. i have accidently closed an entire window with multiple tabs. opening a new konqueror window and hitting "edit -> undo" popped up a konqueror window and loaded all closed tabs again. hitting undo twice even opened another window and recreated a session i had before rebooting |
| 18:28.21 | tampakrap | y |
| 18:28.23 | gkiagia | GraveDigger: wow, I didn't know that was possible |
| 18:28.50 | lilltiger | tampakrap: ask in your #dist on how to properly install and set-p dbus |
| 18:28.58 | GraveDigger | gkiagia: me neither! a "simple" version of undoing closing of tabs was known to me from opera, but this is far beyond |
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| 18:29.00 | tampakrap | lilltiger: thank you |
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| 18:30.59 | GraveDigger | alright! now konqueror seems to be the first REAL reason to switch to 4 permanently |
| 18:31.17 | GraveDigger | (for me at least) |
| 18:31.52 | gkiagia | lol |
| 18:31.55 | lilltiger | i long to the day when i can switch.. :p |
| 18:32.37 | troy | lilltiger: why? |
| 18:32.46 | troy | or rather, why can't you switch? |
| 18:32.50 | lilltiger | nvidia :( |
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| 18:33.05 | sandsmark | ok, the "maximized" window placement thingamajigger in KWin is starting to annoy me, only dialog boxes are maximized.. |
| 18:33.05 | troy | lilltiger: I'm using nvidia with reasonably few problems |
| 18:33.08 | sandsmark | . |
| 18:33.22 | lilltiger | troy: with an 8/9 gpu? |
| 18:33.26 | troy | I get some drawing glitches when firefox is open, but other than that, it's behaving with all the bling turned on... |
| 18:33.30 | lilltiger | for me it's silly slow |
| 18:33.52 | lilltiger | guess you have an older card then |
| 18:33.57 | troy | 7600GS I think |
| 18:34.01 | lilltiger | exatcly |
| 18:34.25 | lilltiger | it's the new cards that have the issues |
| 18:35.09 | troy | lilltiger: you haven't risked trying the nouveau drivers, I assume? |
| 18:35.13 | troy | hasn't needed to... |
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| 18:35.27 | lilltiger | hey have no 3d, so no bling :( |
| 18:35.39 | troy | nouveau is a 3d driver... |
| 18:35.44 | troy | "nv" is 2d only |
| 18:36.10 | lilltiger | ohh |
| 18:36.32 | troy | http://nouveau.freedesktop.org:80/wiki/ |
| 18:36.51 | lilltiger | "Any 3D support is still limited for extremely lucky developers." |
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| 18:38.53 | troy | yeah - it might be half-way abondonned... |
| 18:39.02 | lilltiger | troy: from what i find on the page that driver wont help me at all |
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| 18:42.21 | troy | lilltiger: okay - was worth a try |
| 18:42.36 | troy | lilltiger: that driver needs to hit some milestones to get the whole critical mass of users behind it |
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| 18:44.05 | FreakGuard | !!!!!!! ERROR !!!!!!! - KHTML default stylesheet version mismatch. Aborting. Check your installation. File used was: /opt/kde/share/apps/khtml/css/html4.css. Expected STYLE_VERSION 1 |
| 18:44.17 | FreakGuard | let's say... this file doesn't exist |
| 18:44.36 | FreakGuard | (kopete, before konqueror - different programm, same error) |
| 18:45.15 | wbarber | . |
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| 18:46.38 | |inuxmath | How do I 'customize' kde automount? linux debian lenny, kde 3.5 |
| 18:46.53 | Crell | Hi all. I've an odd issue with Akregator under 3.5.9. While it runs fine while it is running, if I ever exit the program and reopen it (say, when shutting down), it completely loses its memory of what it has downloaded and what I've read. |
| 18:47.00 | Crell | That means I have no archive at all, and when downloading I get all sorts of articles that I have already read marked as New. Any idea why that could be? |
| 18:47.41 | kriko | How to get high quality previews in dolphin? I know that somewhere around RC1 text files were readable, now they are smudged. |
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| 18:48.21 | troy | kriko: preview look good here, although the font is kinda ugly |
| 18:48.30 | troy | kriko: might be a fonts issue *shrug* |
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| 18:48.48 | kriko | fonts are same as they were. Which fonts are used to render? |
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| 18:51.16 | pht | where can i download kdesupport stuff? |
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| 18:52.10 | troy | pht: depends on what you need? For most cases, I'd just check out the sources from anonsvn if there's something in there that your distro hasn't packaged |
| 18:52.12 | pht | last time it was in the kde src dir (4.0.83) ... but it's not bundled to 4.1.0 |
| 18:52.33 | troy | right - because kdesupport isn't really part of the KDE release cycle |
| 18:52.52 | pht | troy: there is no distro, i'm compiling from scratch, and if there's some other way (like tarballs) i'd prefer it to "raw" svn.. |
| 18:53.11 | tonz | hey channel, the key-shortcuts and mouse-gestures seem to have stopped working in kde4.1 is that a known issue? how can i get them back, at least switching desktops would be helpful |
| 18:53.13 | troy | pht: you'd probably get away with using the tarball from 4.0.83 :) |
| 18:53.35 | troy | pht: like I said, it's not linked to the KDE schedule, so probably not much has changed since then |
| 18:53.46 | pht | troy: surprisingly enough, there is newer phonon, in ftp://ftp.kde.org/pub/kde/stable/phonon |
| 18:53.58 | pht | but theres no automoc - even tho it has its own dir :-/ |
| 18:54.34 | pht | right now i'm looking for soprano, |
| 18:54.45 | pht | and that definitely was not in 4.0.83 support dir |
| 18:54.56 | pht | besides, i can't find 4.0.83 on the FTP anymore ... |
| 18:55.11 | troy | pht: automoc4, phonon, soprano, strigi, etc. are all in the kdesupport svn module - I'd recommend just snagging it from anonsvn... |
| 18:55.25 | FreakGuard | I'm looking for a plugin/something else to edit the behaviour of knotify - kopete |
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| 18:56.10 | jrick | tonz: iirc, khotkeys was removed from kde4... so mouse guestures won't work |
| 18:56.25 | jrick | tonz: but you can't switch desktops with ctrl+F{1-4} ? |
| 18:56.46 | tonz | jrick: ah right :) yes that works |
| 18:57.03 | tonz | jrick: but switching to next with just one combo would be nice |
| 18:57.17 | troy | jrick: I'm seeing moue gestures in system settings, KDE 4.2 (trunk) |
| 18:57.28 | jrick | yeah, I hope khotkeys will be back for 4.2, I really miss mouse guestures in konqueror |
| 18:57.29 | pht | troy: let me see |
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| 18:57.43 | sandsmark | damn, the black screen bug in kwin is annoying =/ |
| 18:57.45 | troy | FreakGuard: KDE 4.1? |
| 18:57.45 | jrick | troy: ok, good |
| 18:58.06 | jrick | troy: but do they actually work? |
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| 18:58.08 | jrick | ;) |
| 18:58.14 | troy | jrick: never tried them :) |
| 18:58.41 | jrick | because konqueror + mouse gestures = awesomeness |
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| 18:59.53 | FreakGuard | troy, jep |
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| 19:00.37 | troy | FreakGuard: sadly, there's not much you can do about it in 4.1, but for 4.2 that whole notification system is supposed to be reworked to become themeable, extendable, and generally awesome :) |
| 19:01.05 | FreakGuard | troy, well... are there some configs? |
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| 19:01.45 | troy | FreakGuard: not really - in 4.1 it was shipped with a "barely working" version of the notifications since the developers simply ran up against the 4.1 release deadline |
| 19:02.36 | FreakGuard | I'm on a rolling release system - when should it be finished? (or where to get some dev version :) ) |
| 19:02.43 | jrick | are there any plans to implement the right-click desktop menu functions in kde4? I like having it {flux,open,black}box style where I can right click the desktop to get the "simple menu" |
| 19:02.52 | pht | troy: shall i get it from trunk ? |
| 19:03.07 | troy | FreakGuard: arch? heh - if you're using KDE trunk (rather than 4.1), you'll get it when it's done |
| 19:03.22 | troy | pht: sure - it won't have changed much since the 4.1 release |
| 19:03.28 | FreakGuard | troy, hrhr - I', using kdemod |
| 19:03.50 | pht | troy: ok, thanks. |
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| 19:04.04 | troy | FreakGuard: no idea what kdemod does... |
| 19:04.28 | troy | FreakGuard: is it basically nightly 4.x builds? |
| 19:04.29 | boom1992 | troy: kdemod is following releases from now... |
| 19:04.30 | FreakGuard | the vanilla the possible :) |
| 19:04.37 | sandsmark | can anyone with working Desktop Effects with OpenGL acceleration paste their xorg.conf somewhere? |
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| 19:04.45 | FreakGuard | and splitted up |
| 19:04.53 | sandsmark | (mod as in modular) |
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| 19:04.58 | troy | ah, that'll get your updated notifications when it's activated in trunk then :) |
| 19:05.02 | boom1992 | sandsmark: moment |
| 19:05.05 | FreakGuard | :( |
| 19:05.10 | FreakGuard | atm, they just suck |
| 19:05.18 | sandsmark | boom1992: do you have an intel card? |
| 19:05.22 | sandsmark | wants intel =) |
| 19:05.24 | boom1992 | sandsmark: na :P |
| 19:05.24 | troy | some work already exists, but it's not enabled yet: it'll be using the plasma extenders and such once it's done |
| 19:05.27 | boom1992 | only nvidia |
| 19:05.27 | sandsmark | =/ |
| 19:05.40 | boom1992 | sandsmark: still ned it =! |
| 19:05.41 | boom1992 | ?! |
| 19:05.50 | sandsmark | nah |
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| 19:05.57 | FreakGuard | troy, and another feature: a flexible chatbar in kopete as in pidgin :) |
| 19:06.06 | tonz | another unrelated question: |
| 19:06.11 | sandsmark | FreakGuard: isn't there already? |
| 19:06.15 | boom1992 | sandsmark: :P |
| 19:06.27 | troy | FreakGuard: you'd have to ask the kopete folks - I have no idea what's happening there :) |
| 19:06.35 | tonz | is anyone familiar with the kmix dbus iface? |
| 19:06.40 | troy | doesn't really use kopete... |
| 19:06.48 | Crell | I've an odd issue with Akregator under 3.5.9. While it runs fine while it is running, if I ever exit the program and reopen it (say, when shutting down), it completely loses its memory of what it has downloaded and what I've read. |
| 19:06.50 | Crell | That means I have no archive at all, and when downloading I get all sorts of articles that I have already read marked as New. Any idea why that could be? |
| 19:06.51 | FreakGuard | troy, but? |
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| 19:07.18 | tonz | i try to change the volume but i don't know the value for the deviceidx |
| 19:07.28 | tonz | ideas anyone? |
| 19:07.28 | troy | Crell: only idea I can think of is that you've got permission problems someplace in .kde causing it not to write out your data on exit... |
| 19:07.58 | Crell | troy: That's what it sounds like to me, too, but shouldn't it be writing as it goes, and therefore notice a problem before that? |
| 19:08.20 | troy | FreakGuard: ... but I know that the notification stuff is being worked on in kdelibs and plasma |
| 19:09.17 | FreakGuard | troy, let's say I use fluxbox :) |
| 19:09.19 | troy | Crell: that would be reasonable, but it might be falling back to a read-only operation mode when writing fails... ("a feature, not a bug!") |
| 19:09.32 | sandsmark | noone here have opengl accelerated desktop effects on their intel card? =D |
| 19:09.39 | Crell | troy: The entire .kde/.../akgregator path is owned by my user, and set to 700 permissions. The files in the Archive directory are all 644 and owned by my user as well. |
| 19:09.54 | Crell | And all have a last update date in June. |
| 19:09.56 | troy | sandsmark: it does work well, even on lower end computers (like the EEe) |
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| 19:11.04 | troy | Crell: you might consider blowing out your akregator settings... poke around in .kde/share/config and rename the config file to akregatorrc.bak or something (I don't know the exact file name of the original rc file, as I don't use akregator either...) |
| 19:11.24 | _gunni_ | sandsmark: I have here (KDE4.1 Intel GMA3100) |
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| 19:12.08 | Crell | troy: Ugh. Just the config dir, not the app dir? |
| 19:12.19 | sandsmark | _gunni_: can you paste your xorg.conf at for example rafb.net/paste? |
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| 19:12.29 | sandsmark | troy: I know, but for some weird reason it doesn't work here |
| 19:12.35 | pht | troy: huh, i found soprano on sourceforge: http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=197043&package_id=233036&abmode=1 |
| 19:12.42 | troy | Crell: use your discretion - if you're renaming them (rather than deleting them), you can always restore them if something goes wonky... |
| 19:12.50 | Crell | The aggregator config file was edited today, so that at least does get updated... |
| 19:13.16 | pht | why would they put it on SF, when it's already in kde svn |
| 19:13.19 | _gunni_ | sandsmark: Have to boot the laptop for that, but i can say, theres nothing special in there maybe migrationheuristic greedy ... ill give it to you in few minutes anyway |
| 19:13.20 | troy | Crell: maybe browse through that file to see if there's a setting that looks obviously wrong (that might be invisible from the gui) |
| 19:13.38 | Crell | blinks. |
| 19:13.48 | Crell | Archive Backend=dummy |
| 19:14.00 | Crell | Without even knowing how Akgregator works, that feels wrong to me. :-) |
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| 19:14.03 | troy | pht: soprano isn't really developed for KDE svn - it's just a local copy for the developers to use |
| 19:14.16 | sandsmark | _gunni_: thanks a lot =) |
| 19:14.20 | troy | Crell: rename that file and start akregator fresh - then see what setting it defaults to |
| 19:15.05 | Crell | troy: Hm, by default it has no entry. |
| 19:15.12 | Crell | tries restoring the file and removing that entry. |
| 19:15.23 | pht | troy: shrug. besides, i get the feeling that it's not really used until 4.2 release, is that correct? |
| 19:15.44 | troy | pht: soprano? well, my 4.1 install used it for nepomuk storage I think |
| 19:16.08 | troy | anyway, I'm going down for a reboot/reinstall - see you guys in a few hours :) |
| 19:16.42 | Crell | You're a brave man to start a reinstall on a Sunday afternoon. |
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| 19:16.53 | Crell | I usually do Saturday morning, just in case I need the weekend to unbreak it. :-) |
| 19:16.57 | troy | Crell: it's mandriva - the installs always go smoothly for me :) |
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| 19:17.11 | FreakGuard | configure: error: The important program mcopidl was not found! |
| 19:17.14 | Crell | ran Debian Sid for several years, and now runs his own mail server. |
| 19:17.19 | FreakGuard | hrm |
| 19:17.21 | Crell | I come by paranoia through experience. |
| 19:17.38 | troy | FreakGuard: that's from arts in KDE 3.x - why it's showing up? what are you trying to build? |
| 19:17.46 | Crell | troy: That does seem to have done it. |
| 19:17.48 | pht | troy: bye and thanks |
| 19:17.50 | FreakGuard | troy, well, a plugin for kopere |
| 19:17.51 | Crell | Thanks! |
| 19:17.55 | FreakGuard | troy, so drop it? |
| 19:17.59 | Crell | Now to figure out why it happened so I can keep it from happening again. |
| 19:18.07 | troy | FreakGuard: yeah - it'll be for an older kopete version |
| 19:18.42 | FreakGuard | troy, where to copy kopete skins? |
| 19:18.51 | troy | dunno - I don't use kopete :) |
| 19:19.08 | FreakGuard | hrm |
| 19:19.16 | troy | bye |
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| 19:21.32 | __aib | what's the KDE 4 equivalent of KWifiManager? |
| 19:21.52 | _gunni_ | sandsmark: http://pastebin.com/d1f0eb5ec |
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| 19:22.41 | drivamgr2008Spri | hello... Anyone know if artscontrol is still in existance? I have done a provides search and got the kde arts packs, but can't locate this prog. |
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| 19:23.09 | _gunni_ | drivamgr2008Spri: You mena in KDE3 or KDE4 ? |
| 19:23.11 | sandsmark | _gunni_: thanks a lot =) |
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| 19:23.30 | drivamgr2008Spri | _gunni_: KDE3 (Precisely KDE 3.5.7) |
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| 19:24.02 | kriko | what is the opposite of expand. Retract? |
| 19:24.09 | drivamgr2008Spri | contract |
| 19:24.38 | drivamgr2008Spri | Expansion / Contraction |
| 19:24.44 | drivamgr2008Spri | so Expand / Contract |
| 19:24.47 | kriko | thanks |
| 19:24.51 | drivamgr2008Spri | np |
| 19:25.08 | kriko | it is a KDE issue if wondering, I'm doing a bug report ;) |
| 19:25.36 | sege | how do I get KDE4.1 to automatically prompt for pwd and mount dm-crypted usb drive? |
| 19:25.50 | sege | is it possible? |
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| 19:27.11 | drivamgr2008Spri | _gunni_: got any clues on my prob? Arts is driving me bonkers and without artscontrol, I can't use audacity, since arts is blocking the sound daemon. |
| 19:28.21 | _gunni_ | drivamgr2008Spri: No sorry, i cant help on that |
| 19:28.29 | drivamgr2008Spri | bother. |
| 19:28.35 | drivamgr2008Spri | thanks anyhow |
| 19:28.56 | drivamgr2008Spri | arts dun have a channel on here - or if they do, i can't locate it |
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| 19:30.16 | sandsmark | hmm, no go =/ |
| 19:30.36 | sandsmark | what's a good, clean livecd with kde 4.1 that I can try compositing with? |
| 19:30.55 | treach | opensuse have on iirc |
| 19:31.03 | treach | s/on/one |
| 19:31.29 | sandsmark | k |
| 19:31.49 | sandsmark | hmm, only 32bit |
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| 19:34.52 | drivamgr2008Spri | ho ho ho... I found artscontrol, _gunni_ ! - Its in kdemultimedia-arts |
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| 19:35.07 | drivamgr2008Spri | And yet I thought I urpmi'd that a week ago... |
| 19:35.18 | sandsmark | and bad speed down =/ |
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| 19:36.16 | sandsmark | 50kb/s on the torrent... |
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| 19:37.29 | sandsmark | I sit on a 100mbit switch, just a couple of hops from the backbone |
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| 19:44.13 | bashir | hi |
| 19:44.29 | bashir | i want to change the permissions on my local drives to allow read/write |
| 19:44.34 | bashir | they right now are only read |
| 19:44.43 | bashir | the owner is root |
| 19:45.10 | bashir | if i right click on hte drive and go to permissions it shows the options i need to change but i cant do that as nonroot |
| 19:45.34 | ebdomino | ++ |
| 19:45.41 | bashir | so i opened up konquerer in superuser mode but then the drives didnt show up when i went to system:/media/ |
| 19:45.52 | LordDragon | hey all |
| 19:46.00 | bashir | any ideas? |
| 19:46.00 | LordDragon | are there many plasma widgets for kde4 yet ? |
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| 19:46.23 | sandsmark | LordDragon: not enough! start writing! =D |
| 19:46.36 | LordDragon | lolz |
| 19:46.53 | icwiener | bashir: Do not do that. File permissions are there for a reason. However, that kind of question is better asked in the channel of you distro anyway. |
| 19:46.54 | LordDragon | sandsmark, oh your interested in sloppy code that wont compile then? ;) |
| 19:47.02 | sandsmark | LordDragon: oh, yes |
| 19:47.03 | LordDragon | cuz thats all i can do :P |
| 19:47.07 | sandsmark | it tickles my sado-bone |
| 19:47.09 | sandsmark | =p |
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| 20:17.33 | pgega_ | Hi there how to make Krusader a default file manager ? |
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| 20:17.45 | pgega_ | I can make a default, but |
| 20:18.14 | pgega_ | my krusader kmenu entry does not open anything |
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| 20:18.51 | pgega_ | krusader --left %d --right %d |
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| 20:42.39 | sandsmark | meh, desktop effects work on the opensuse livecd )& |
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| 20:42.49 | morsik | hi |
| 20:42.55 | sandsmark | *=/ |
| 20:42.59 | morsik | i have a problem with compile kdebase from svn |
| 20:43.20 | morsik | i have error: http://wklej.org/id/026224f896 |
| 20:43.34 | morsik | (sorry from polish nopaste) |
| 20:43.35 | morsik | ;) |
| 20:44.16 | SSJ_GZ | morsik: http://techbase.kde.org/Getting_Started/Build/KDE4/Troubleshooting#Issues_building_kdebase |
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| 20:45.11 | cb400f | sandsmark: that's a bad thing? |
| 20:46.00 | morsik | SSJ_GZ: thanks ;) |
| 20:46.06 | SSJ_GZ | np :) |
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| 20:47.00 | sandsmark | cb400f: yes, because it doesn\t work in other distros |
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| 20:47.08 | cb400f | :-) |
| 20:47.34 | sandsmark | meh, and opensuse has too many quirks for me to use it (uses knetworkmanager from kde3, uses kpowersave from kde3 instead of powerdevil from kde 4, etc.) |
| 20:47.38 | drantin | desktop effects are distro dependant? since when? |
| 20:47.49 | sandsmark | drantin: I think its Xorgs fault |
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| 20:54.47 | drantin | people not having composite turned on? |
| 20:55.13 | sandsmark | no |
| 20:55.24 | sandsmark | now I just copied the xorg.conf from the livecd, and still no fancy effects |
| 20:55.28 | sandsmark | I get just a white screen |
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| 20:56.45 | jospoortvliet | http://theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?PHPSESSID=1ad905adf46f5df7fea6b131e2fdcb5c&topic=5628.0 |
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| 20:59.16 | drantin | recommends grabbing a flat earther and taking them on a nice orbit around the earth, or perhaps on a mars expedition... |
| 20:59.55 | lemma | LIES ALL LIES |
| 21:00.08 | lemma | I'm wondering if that forum is actually satirical... |
| 21:00.26 | sandsmark | I think it is |
| 21:00.31 | sandsmark | or, most, at least |
| 21:00.45 | sandsmark | some unknowing soul has probably gotten mixed up into it =) |
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| 21:31.14 | inbitado34 | how do i add more widgets to kde 4.1 ? |
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| 21:39.38 | gkiagia | inbitado34: go to kde-look.org, download, compile and install one of the available "plasmoids" |
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| 21:40.54 | inbitado34 | ok gkiagia |
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| 21:45.22 | kwilliam | Hey, what's a normal CPU usage for Kwin with an Nvidia card (KDE4)? I think mine's higher than usual. |
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| 21:47.20 | kwilliam | Earlier it was at 50% cpu, now it's at 33%. (2.0 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo) |
| 21:48.59 | kwilliam | (The 33% is with the cpu frequency at 1/2 for battery mode) |
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| 21:54.20 | gkiagia | kwilliam: did you try disabling vsync in kwin options? |
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| 21:54.40 | kwilliam | never heard of vsync |
| 21:55.17 | gkiagia | it helps a lot with nvidia cards... go to the desktop effects dialog and click advanced options, then disable vsync |
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| 21:57.12 | kwilliam | looks at Wikipedia |
| 21:57.30 | kwilliam | huh, is vsync only important for CRT screens? |
| 21:59.16 | kwilliam | huh, now it appears superkaramba might just be lying about CPU usage..... |
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| 22:00.24 | kwilliam | Aero AIO (superkaramba) says 22 % (after disabling vsync) but top is saying a much smaller number. |
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| 22:02.55 | katastrophe | kwilliam: most lcds run with 60hz, so vsync would be 60 fps for them |
| 22:05.17 | kwilliam | Hm. It appears that the superkaramba widget I was using is simply outright lying. When I'm not moving windows, top and htop report a PU of 1 or 2 percent. The widget still insists I'm at 20%. (Earlier it said 50%, which is what got me worried.) |
| 22:05.30 | kwilliam | Wonder it thats a superkaramba bug? |
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| 22:15.10 | kwilliam | Alright, dang. I've got to research why top and htop report 0.6% CPU for Kwin, and ps reports 16% CPU. Sounds like somebody's lying. |
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| 22:20.14 | gkiagia | lol |
| 22:20.42 | blauzahl | btw, that "nicknames dropped" message is a fake. |
| 22:21.04 | gkiagia | blauzahl: I though so... |
| 22:21.10 | gkiagia | thought* |
| 22:21.19 | blauzahl | i just asked #freenode to make sure ;) |
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| 22:24.33 | ninjaslim | what is the memory footprint on KDE 4.1.0 and how well do gtk applications integrate? |
| 22:25.26 | techouse | abbe: thanx for the tip on bespin :) |
| 22:26.07 | Half-Left | ninjaslim: Will run on 256mb ram, intergrate how? |
| 22:26.24 | ninjaslim | Half-Left: do gtk applications look out of place? |
| 22:26.36 | kwilliam | ninjaslim: sort of |
| 22:26.50 | kwilliam | ninjaslim: I can get the color scheme to match up |
| 22:26.52 | ninjaslim | most of my applications are gtk which makes taht sort of a problem |
| 22:26.53 | Half-Left | Not if you use gtk-qt engine |
| 22:27.07 | kwilliam | Half-Left: Is that working for KDE4 yet? |
| 22:27.16 | Half-Left | Yes |
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| 22:27.19 | ninjaslim | Half-left: right but last i tired that it had rendering issues back in June though |
| 22:27.31 | Half-Left | Seems fine |
| 22:27.40 | kwilliam | Hm, I'll try that then |
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| 22:27.52 | Half-Left | Oxygen theme looks not to bad in GTK apps |
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| 22:27.56 | kwilliam | I was just using QtCurve or something for GTK |
| 22:28.04 | kwilliam | Sweet, Oxygen in GTK |
| 22:28.31 | Zxcvb | is there any support for loading plugins (flash, kmplayer, etc) via the new activexobject method in the version of konqueror in kde 4.1? |
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| 22:29.27 | Half-Left | kwilliam: IIt's not perfect with Inkscape if you use that |
| 22:29.32 | hartung-rey | is actually a plasmaoid for weather-forecast available? |
| 22:30.29 | kwilliam | Half-Left: I'm using THunderbird. The colors look messed up. :-/ I better check the gtk config file, make sure it's right. |
| 22:30.55 | Half-Left | hartung-rey: One for 4.2 but you can get them now, one on kde-look |
| 22:31.31 | Half-Left | kwilliam: Thunderbird is messy GTK app anyway so |
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| 22:33.02 | abbe | techouse: you're welcome |
| 22:33.12 | kwilliam | Half-Left: Yeah, I know. Darn XUL. |
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| 22:37.37 | kwilliam | Half-Left: What color scheme are you using/ |
| 22:38.18 | Half-Left | kwilliam: Just default |
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| 22:43.01 | kwilliam | Half-Left: oh ok. I'll try and put a picture of the Gimp on imageshack so you can see what I get. |
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| 22:49.51 | kwilliam | Half-Left: Here's the GIMP with QtCurve theme (colors theme works right) http://img161.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gimpgoodzx1.png |
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| 22:50.31 | kwilliam | Half-Left: Here it is with the Qt4 theme (colors look bad) http://img161.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gimpbadxt8.png |
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| 22:50.46 | kwilliam | ak. |
| 22:51.02 | kwilliam | those are the wrong links aren't they. |
| 22:51.33 | kwilliam | http://img161.imageshack.us/img161/7250/gimpgoodzx1.png |
| 22:51.35 | Half-Left | I can see just the gimp toobox |
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| 22:52.03 | kwilliam | http://img161.imageshack.us/img161/1774/gimpbadxt8.png |
| 22:52.15 | shadok | i'd say both color schemes are wrong ^^ |
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| 22:52.33 | kwilliam | shadok: lol |
| 22:52.42 | kwilliam | No, I kind of like Obsidian Coast. |
| 22:52.55 | shadok | hehe, your choice :) |
| 22:53.08 | kwilliam | The proud and the weird! |
| 22:53.22 | Mace` | hi |
| 22:53.39 | Mace` | anybody here know why kopete would complain about kde4 in gentoo not having a qla tls plugin? |
| 22:53.45 | Mace` | is there a pkg i am supposed to install for this? |
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| 22:54.40 | kwilliam | could be. |
| 22:54.51 | Half-Left | kwilliam: http://img225.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gimpoxygeniv2.png |
| 22:54.54 | kwilliam | I'm using Kubuntu though, so I don't know. |
| 22:55.02 | Red_Wraith | Hello. Can someone tell me how to shut off the x server? |
| 22:55.37 | shadok | Red_Wraith: stopping you login manager will do |
| 22:55.40 | kwilliam | Red_Wraith: Ctrl+Alt+Backspace, if you really want to do that. |
| 22:55.55 | sandsmark | uhm, my krunner is invisible, could that be because of a bad plasma theme? |
| 22:55.56 | Red_Wraith | I don't want to RESTART it, I want to shut it off. |
| 22:56.08 | Red_Wraith | I need to install graphics drivers. |
| 22:56.13 | Half-Left | Type init3 as root |
| 22:56.19 | Red_Wraith | No space? |
| 22:56.28 | Half-Left | nope |
| 22:56.33 | Red_Wraith | Okay, thank you. |
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| 22:56.42 | Red_Wraith | Goodbye all. |
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| 22:57.21 | lilltiger | he should have tried telinit 3 before init3 |
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| 22:57.58 | Red_Wraith | Half-Left: It didn't work. |
| 22:57.58 | sandsmark | can someone try to set the Stripshine plasma theme, relogin, and try alt+f2? |
| 22:58.23 | Red_Wraith | It says command not found, for some reason. I'm running Fedora. |
| 22:58.23 | lilltiger | Red_Wraith: try telinit 3 |
| 22:58.30 | kwilliam | Half-Left: Could I see you're ~/.gtkrc-2.0-kde4 |
| 22:58.37 | sandsmark | or just init 3 |
| 22:58.40 | sandsmark | (worksforme) |
| 22:58.49 | Half-Left | ugh |
| 22:59.04 | kwilliam | Half-Left: I think you're is setting the colors right maybe. |
| 22:59.16 | kwilliam | Half-Left: Hang on, let me just change my color scheme first |
| 22:59.20 | Half-Left | friggin space in init 3 |
| 22:59.23 | kwilliam | Half-Left: back to the default. |
| 23:00.20 | kwilliam | Half-Left: Yeah, if I use the default colors, GIMP looks pretty. |
| 23:00.40 | lilltiger | better to use telinit as it's flags is simpler :p |
| 23:00.54 | sandsmark | just runs init 3, init 5, and shabam, X starts |
| 23:01.11 | lilltiger | telinit 3 then telinit 5 is the "correct" way |
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| 23:02.03 | rpag | Hi, i'm trying to build klibido but I keep getting this same error : |
| 23:02.07 | lilltiger | as it only takes one flag not as easy to screw up stuff :) |
| 23:02.14 | kwilliam | Half-Left: Hang on, no it doesn't (I was still using QtCurve). I'll send you my Qt4 GIMP. |
| 23:02.18 | rpag | checking for mcopidl... not found |
| 23:02.18 | rpag | configure: error: The important program mcopidl was not found! |
| 23:02.20 | sandsmark | lilltiger: /sbin/telinit is linked to /sbin/init. |
| 23:02.23 | sandsmark | (from the man page) |
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| 23:02.32 | lilltiger | sandsmark: yes, but takes only one flag |
| 23:02.35 | rpag | I think I have arts installed, I've installed KDE so I'm guessing arts should be there? |
| 23:02.45 | sandsmark | ah =) |
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| 23:03.04 | lilltiger | so less risk for nuclear destruction for typo :) |
| 23:03.38 | Half-Left | lilltiger: Good suntan though |
| 23:03.44 | Mace` | wtf |
| 23:04.18 | lilltiger | Half-Left: i dont like suntans.. im a vampire :p |
| 23:04.24 | Half-Left | hehe |
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| 23:05.17 | Half-Left | throws some garlic lilltiger's way |
| 23:05.24 | lilltiger | yummy :D |
| 23:06.16 | lilltiger | Half-Left: i love that myth, we vamps created it so the food would bring spices when they come to visit :p |
| 23:07.04 | Half-Left | watches him burn from the inside as it was laced with holy water |
| 23:07.06 | Half-Left | Depends which film you watch :p |
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| 23:08.25 | lilltiger | well holy water does work, the thing is that we eradicated the only true religion thousends of yers ago :) |
| 23:10.40 | Half-Left | lilltiger: Funny how myths work, vampsare one :p |
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| 23:12.06 | lilltiger | Half-Left: indeed |
| 23:13.23 | Half-Left | night all |
| 23:13.42 | lilltiger | night |
| 23:15.01 | drantin | is there a clock plasmoid that lets you show multiple timezones like the 3.x clock did? (where x is an unknown number as I don't know when the feature appeared) |
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| 23:15.18 | kwilliam | Darn. |
| 23:15.28 | kwilliam | I just missed Half-Left |
| 23:16.20 | kwilliam | Well, here's what my GTK looks like with the Qt4 GTK theme, Oxygen style, and Default colors |
| 23:16.24 | kwilliam | http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/5300/gimpbaddefaultcolorscheim9.png |
| 23:16.27 | atomopawn | Hello, all. I have a strange bug in which konqueror sometimes tells me "The program on your computer which provides access to the http protocol could not be started". I would like to create a useful bug report, but could use some help diagnosing the problem. What process is it that usually provides http? |
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| 23:16.49 | drantin | he's only ever half here anyway... |
| 23:17.26 | kwilliam | It's got a strange green tint in places, that I don't understand. |
| 23:18.06 | atomopawn | Maybe it's GTK slime showing through? |
| 23:18.13 | kwilliam | atomopawn: I'm not sure. Probably some KIOslave. |
| 23:18.20 | atomopawn | Sorry. Couldn't resist a little poke. :-) |
| 23:18.25 | kwilliam | atomopawn: lol |
| 23:18.51 | atomopawn | Hmm. Maybe an strace will help me narrow it down. |
| 23:18.54 | kwilliam | atomopawn: actually, my theory is some Qt app that insisted on being green messed it up, but I don't know. |
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| 23:19.53 | kwilliam | atomopawn: I think it's kio_http |
| 23:20.00 | atomopawn | Thanks! |
| 23:20.06 | atomopawn | It was jealous! |
| 23:20.25 | kwilliam | (I started loading a webpage in Konqueror, and quickly ran 'pgrep kio') |
| 23:20.58 | kwilliam | (pgrep lets you search running processes) |
| 23:21.13 | atomopawn | That's a handy shortcut. I usually do ps afx | grep 'blah' |
| 23:21.48 | atomopawn | Bah. The bug went away. |
| 23:21.51 | atomopawn | I hate transient faults. |
| 23:21.56 | kwilliam | yeah, that would be more fancy. I'm not sure if pgrep is an alias or an actual program. |
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| 23:21.59 | atomopawn | Oh well. If it comes back, I'll bug report it. |
| 23:22.19 | kwilliam | atomopawn: I hate strange errors too. |
| 23:22.31 | kwilliam | atomopawn: (that can't be repeated) |
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| 23:22.36 | kwilliam | (but happen often) |
| 23:23.08 | kwilliam | (I guess I should have said "can't be replicated on demand") |
| 23:23.22 | atomopawn | Yeah. |
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| 23:23.58 | atomopawn | Actually, I don't mind the errors. What I mind is having KDE split up into so many processes that I can't figure out how to debug them.... |
| 23:24.16 | atomopawn | It's awfully hard to use valgrind and gdb when you don't know which process to trap. |
| 23:24.58 | kwilliam | well, I've never used valgrind and gdb. I'm just a Python script-kiddie. :-P |
| 23:25.49 | kwilliam | But I can imagine. |
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| 23:26.18 | kwilliam | tries to remember why I'm on IRC. |
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| 23:26.45 | kwilliam | ah. ps versus top. |
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| 23:38.50 | _sagitarius_ | is away: No toy... |
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| 23:44.22 | Red_Wraith | How can I check which version of KDE I'm running? |
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| 23:46.26 | shadok | Red_Wraith: help/about kde in any kde app |
| 23:47.01 | drantin | can run kde3 apps in kde4 that return info about kde3... |
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