| 00:03.54 | Devourer | I'm trying to build KDE and I get this error when using kdesvn-build, "bunzip2: qt-copy-svn.tar.bz2 is not a bzip2 file." <--- What does that mean? |
| 00:04.15 | jadrian | Devourer: corrupted file? just a guess |
| 00:05.03 | Devourer | jadrian, it came from KDE svn though... I think. What's the KDE svn repo? |
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| 00:05.05 | edneymatias | hi all |
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| 00:06.24 | jadrian | Devourer: svn.kde.org for devels I think |
| 00:06.42 | jadrian | Devourer: for you should be anonsvn.kde.org... I think |
| 00:07.00 | jadrian | not sure though check with someone else just in case |
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| 00:11.23 | holycow | the more i use kde4 the more i like it |
| 00:12.51 | edneymatias | i felt in love! |
| 00:12.56 | Devourer | :( |
| 00:13.18 | Devourer | kdesvn-build is stuck saying "waiting for source code update" |
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| 00:14.05 | N9NU | KDE 4.2 |
| 00:14.07 | N9NU | wow |
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| 00:14.46 | holycow | and the whole kontacts stuff .. i really just love how everything is kparts |
| 00:15.03 | holycow | and kde apps can easily be standalone apps or part of something more integrated |
| 00:15.07 | holycow | bbiab |
| 00:16.09 | N9NU | im just about done making the old "Kcontrol" fully compatible with KDE 4.x |
| 00:16.30 | N9NU | Kcontrol is nicer than "systemsettings" |
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| 00:20.55 | N9NU | anyone want to try |
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| 00:24.06 | holycow | N9NU: i'm game but i don't have time right now |
| 00:24.07 | holycow | :/ |
| 00:25.14 | N9NU | ok...no prob |
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| 00:47.09 | JuJuBee | What's up with KDE4 and files on the desktop? |
| 00:48.09 | JuJuBee | When I deleted what I thought to be a file on the desktop it only removed the icon.... The file still exists in /home/me/Desktop |
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| 00:51.27 | Jucato | it would be nice if people sticked around to get answered :) |
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| 00:57.24 | holycow | however we are clearly in early dev stages |
| 00:57.26 | holycow | kmail keeps on loozing imap account data on logout from kde4 |
| 00:57.28 | holycow | hehe |
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| 01:02.37 | Che-Anarc | I've noticed playback of video content is not as smooth as I'd expect it to be... there are lines of refresh that are visible in certian frames... anyone know why this would be? |
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| 01:14.51 | chieh | hello, does anyone know the command to open up the default browser? |
| 01:16.45 | N9NU | the default browser can be set via running the command "systemsettings" from a terminal |
| 01:16.59 | N9NU | or going the the config gui via the kemenu |
| 01:17.10 | chieh | no, i just need to open it |
| 01:17.18 | chieh | i have an url and i need to open it with the default browser |
| 01:17.27 | N9NU | oh. |
| 01:17.36 | N9NU | ......../usr/bin/konqueror |
| 01:17.37 | chieh | for my users, cus i don't know which browser they use |
| 01:17.39 | N9NU | i believe |
| 01:17.41 | N9NU | or |
| 01:17.44 | chieh | they might only run gnome |
| 01:17.54 | chieh | or they might use firefox |
| 01:17.58 | N9NU | ......./usr/bin/firefox |
| 01:18.05 | N9NU | which distro |
| 01:18.08 | chieh | any |
| 01:18.22 | chieh | a general way to open up the default browser with an url |
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| 01:18.50 | N9NU | from a terminal or from a gui (such as irc) |
| 01:18.51 | chieh | you could do it in python, but i was wondering how it could be done in bash |
| 01:18.59 | N9NU | oh |
| 01:19.00 | Rayy | hi, how can i stop the xserver in kde 4.1 |
| 01:19.10 | Rayy | sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop |
| 01:19.14 | Rayy | doesnt seem to be workin |
| 01:19.30 | Rayy | same goes for sudo /etc/init.d/kdm-kde4 stop |
| 01:19.42 | N9NU | ctrl+alt+f1 |
| 01:19.47 | N9NU | then ctrol c |
| 01:20.01 | Rayy | k ill try that |
| 01:20.06 | N9NU | thats just a temp one |
| 01:20.17 | N9NU | from a bash script |
| 01:20.24 | N9NU | you would just enter this |
| 01:20.25 | Rayy | N9NU: not workin |
| 01:20.33 | chieh | alright , i guess i'll have to use python to do it |
| 01:20.40 | N9NU | is your system like..locked? |
| 01:20.50 | Rayy | N9NU: what do u mean? |
| 01:20.59 | N9NU | well bash is easy..just use: /usr/bin/konqueror |
| 01:21.11 | N9NU | or firefox |
| 01:21.26 | N9NU | all your doin is running the file via a script |
| 01:21.30 | caotic | what can be use for recording a wav file in linux/C++ |
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| 01:21.37 | rohanpm | chieh: "default browser" according to what? |
| 01:21.47 | N9NU | Rayy: |
| 01:22.07 | rohanpm | chieh: You can open any URL with KDE's assigned program by: kfmclient exec someurl |
| 01:22.18 | N9NU | do you want to stop the GUI right now...as in the session your in? |
| 01:22.27 | Rayy | N9NU: yes |
| 01:22.34 | Rayy | im installing the nvidia driver |
| 01:22.36 | chieh | hum... i'll give that a try |
| 01:22.48 | rohanpm | Rayy: your question isn't actually related to KDE |
| 01:23.12 | rohanpm | Rayy: the proper way to do it depends on which distro you use |
| 01:23.12 | N9NU | when you press CTRL ALT F1 |
| 01:23.12 | N9NU | it should take you to a terminal |
| 01:23.12 | Rayy | rohanpm: i use kubuntu |
| 01:23.18 | N9NU | pressing CTRL ALT F7 takes you back to the GUI |
| 01:23.21 | rohanpm | Rayy: then it is best to ask in #kubuntu |
| 01:23.26 | N9NU | while your in the terminal , you can press CRTL X |
| 01:23.27 | Rayy | N9NU: i know that |
| 01:23.28 | chieh | YESSSSSSSSSSSS,,,,, that's exactly what i want, thank you very much |
| 01:23.37 | N9NU | to terminal the GUI session |
| 01:23.40 | N9NU | nate |
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| 01:23.56 | N9NU | Ctrl x and/or Ctrl c |
| 01:24.09 | chieh | oh wait, did you say KDE? does that mean it won't work if my users is in gnome or other env? |
| 01:24.44 | N9NU | that will dump any gui |
| 01:24.59 | rohanpm | chieh: right, because there is no concept of "default browser" shared between all desktop environments |
| 01:25.01 | N9NU | or i should say any runlevel 5 session |
| 01:25.45 | rohanpm | chieh: actually, my knowledge is outdated. Nowadays there is a command called xdg-open |
| 01:26.01 | chieh | oh? let me try that too |
| 01:26.12 | chieh | nope, i don't have that command |
| 01:26.14 | rohanpm | chieh: which is supposed to act the same as the command I previously gave, but should work across anything which acknowledges freedesktop.org |
| 01:26.28 | rohanpm | Package is usually named something like xdg-utils |
| 01:26.34 | chieh | but i think i got want it want, gnome forum told me to use gnome-open http://iamar.net |
| 01:27.01 | rohanpm | If this is for some script, you have no choice but to test for the existence of commands and try multiple things |
| 01:27.03 | chieh | i'm pretty sure there's a way, cus python does it |
| 01:27.17 | rohanpm | Then read the relevant python code |
| 01:27.25 | chieh | there's a command in python that automatically opens up the default browser regardless of the evn |
| 01:27.39 | chieh | i already know how to do it in python, but i'm writting a shell script |
| 01:27.46 | rohanpm | chieh: what command is that? |
| 01:27.58 | chieh | http://docs.python.org/lib/module-webbrowser.html |
| 01:28.01 | chieh | check it out |
| 01:28.01 | rohanpm | Yes, I'm saying look at the implementation of that python command |
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| 01:29.43 | kr0n05931 | how do I install a plasma theme? |
| 01:29.56 | kr0n05931 | I'm on KDE 4.1 |
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| 01:30.24 | N9NU | you can install one from the desktop by right clicking on it |
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| 01:30.41 | N9NU | "add wigets" |
| 01:30.50 | kr0n05931 | ok, thank you very much for your help :) |
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| 01:32.19 | rohanpm | I found the source code to that python module, and it isn't correct |
| 01:32.32 | rohanpm | It respects gnome settings but not KDE settings |
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| 01:34.57 | N9NU | KDE = Konstantly Disobaying Everything |
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| 01:36.46 | Jucato | hm... |
| 01:37.13 | Jucato | so a program doesn't follow KDE settings therefore it's KDE that's contantly disobeying? |
| 01:37.19 | N9NU | lol |
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| 01:37.32 | N9NU | KDE = Konstantly Disrespecting Everything |
| 01:38.10 | Jucato | "so a program doesn't follow KDE settings therefore it's KDE that's contantly disrespecting everything?" |
| 01:38.31 | Jucato | perhaps you have it the other way around |
| 01:38.34 | N9NU | KDE = Konstantly Developing Envirionment |
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| 01:41.24 | ybit | hi, my kde applications aren't displaying chinese fonts correctly, but firefox will when i paste the text into the location bar... you can see the missing text in this screenshot: http://bayimg.com/DaKccaabg |
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| 01:45.18 | holycow | nifty |
| 01:45.20 | holycow | being able to setup multiple panels along the same edge of the screen allows for a visual distinction between components |
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| 01:56.04 | illogic-al | holycow indeed. |
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| 01:56.18 | Rayy | is 4.1.1 already released? |
| 01:56.44 | illogic-al | Site blocked. bayimg.com is not allowed on this network. |
| 01:56.44 | illogic-al | This site was categorized as: |
| 01:56.44 | illogic-al | Nudity, Pornography |
| 01:56.44 | holycow | 4.2 is out |
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| 01:58.20 | Bulwinkle | where do I set my numlock to be turned on when KDE4.1 starts? |
| 01:58.24 | Rayy | holycow: stable? |
| 01:58.37 | Rayy | holycow: and out since now? |
| 01:58.48 | Rayy | today* |
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| 01:59.14 | Jucato | holycow is just pullling your leg |
| 01:59.54 | hdevalence | I don't mean to start a flame or something, but could someone point me to a webpage or something which clearly explains what the differences are between KHTML and webkit? |
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| 02:00.31 | Rayy | hdevalence: isnt webkit derived from khtml? |
| 02:00.32 | Jucato | hdevalence: clearest difference: one is a fully open KDE technology, while the other is controlled by Apple :) |
| 02:00.40 | Jucato | Rayy: "forked" is the more proper term |
| 02:00.48 | hdevalence | Jucato: right |
| 02:01.02 | holycow | Rayy: hehe sorry i was just kiddin |
| 02:01.07 | Jucato | hdevalence: you might want to ask in #khtml since they'd know more about it (though of course they're answer would probably be more inclined towards khtml) |
| 02:01.10 | holycow | sorry, i am trying to benicer these days |
| 02:01.16 | hdevalence | Jucato: thanks |
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| 02:01.23 | Rayy | holycow: xD |
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| 02:04.15 | Rayy | holycow: http://techbase.kde.org/index.php?title=Schedules/KDE4/4.1_Release_Schedule#September_3rd.2C_2008:_Release_KDE_4.1.1 |
| 02:04.58 | hdevalence | also I have a problem where every time I use konqueror it pops up the "konq did not close correctly..." window. How do I make it not do that? |
| 02:05.06 | Jucato | Rayy: always remember that they only give a date, but not the time :) |
| 02:05.33 | Jucato | so it could mean Sept 3, 23:59 (11:59 p.m.) in the last timezone in the world |
| 02:05.43 | Jucato | hdevalence: there's a checkbox not to ask again |
| 02:05.44 | Rayy | Jucato: lol |
| 02:05.54 | Jucato | funny, but true :) |
| 02:05.55 | hdevalence | Jucato: yes |
| 02:06.15 | hdevalence | Jucato: but I want it to show when Konq *does* crash |
| 02:06.21 | hdevalence | but not *every* time |
| 02:06.30 | Jucato | it doesn't do that everytime |
| 02:06.45 | Jucato | konqueror might have crashed when you closed it even if it looked like it didn't |
| 02:06.48 | Rayy | hdevalence: it crashes a lot more than other browsers |
| 02:07.05 | hdevalence | hrm |
| 02:07.05 | Jucato | (mostly due to flash I believe) |
| 02:07.15 | hdevalence | alright, I'll try that |
| 02:07.18 | Rayy | Jucato: yes, flash is a problem |
| 02:07.24 | hdevalence | where do I switch it back? |
| 02:07.41 | Jucato | try digging somewhere in konquerorrc |
| 02:08.20 | Jucato | it's hard to make a standards-compliant browser engine (khtml) when the whole world is determined not to follow standards :) |
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| 02:11.44 | hdevalence | Jucato: nah there is this new standard called "IE8" and it will be really cool i promise |
| 02:12.04 | Jucato | actually, the new standard is "Chrome" :) |
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| 02:12.09 | Jucato | anyway... |
| 02:12.11 | luke-jr | Chrome is stupid |
| 02:12.34 | Jucato | notes that the "anyway..." was a signal to say "anyway this is getting offtopic" :) |
| 02:12.37 | Roey | Hola Jucato! |
| 02:12.41 | Rayy | hdevalence: lol |
| 02:12.43 | Jucato | elow Roey |
| 02:12.43 | Roey | Don la Fontaine died :( |
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| 02:18.57 | FreenoseJew | stupid niggggger obama if elected nigggs will start killing whites in larger numbers just like after south africa elected their first nnnniiiiigggger! Barack Hussein Obama Bin Laden won't last 2 months in office! |
| 02:19.21 | Jucato | heh k-lined immediately. awesome :) |
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| 02:24.49 | MathStuf | hi, is there a place where all the options for a .directory file are listed? |
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| 02:29.52 | yao_ziyuan | sexy jupiter: http://infowire.googlegroups.com/web/jupiter-kde4.png?gda=Owy-jkIAAAC5ARj7-9s3lvdQqjFlZh8OcLhkWPI1zFqBtNE91XkYwIstSipLX8viuxCvZ0xjmHBV4u3aa4iAIyYQIqbG9naPgh6o8ccLBvP6Chud5KMzIQ |
| 02:29.57 | Roey | freezombie: hey |
| 02:29.58 | Rayy | obama rullz^^ |
| 02:29.59 | Roey | nice nick |
| 02:30.05 | Roey | Rayy: gah |
| 02:30.09 | Roey | obama is a marionette. |
| 02:30.16 | Roey | "change!" "Change!!" |
| 02:30.23 | Roey | just wind him up and he starts dancing. |
| 02:30.28 | Roey | fuck him and his change. |
| 02:30.33 | Jucato | Roey: he got k-lined for a reason. |
| 02:30.36 | Jucato | and this is #kde |
| 02:30.37 | Rayy | Roey: rather vote mcain? |
| 02:30.39 | Roey | ah |
| 02:30.52 | Roey | Rayy: If it comes down to Obama vs. McCain I'll vote the latter. |
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| 02:31.05 | Rayy | Roey: query pls |
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| 02:51.47 | hays | obama |
| 02:52.07 | Jucato | pfft |
| 02:52.09 | hays | is great :) |
| 02:52.16 | jbennes | yes |
| 02:52.33 | Jucato | hays: don't make me kick you :) |
| 02:53.08 | jbennes | pat: are you on this |
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| 02:54.56 | smorg | Anyone here happen to know if flash is working in konqueror 4.1 at the moment? I'm actually using an svn version, but is it correct that konqueror should detect that nsplugins exists and create a plugins category under konqueror's settings? |
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| 02:56.01 | Jucato | smorg: it won't automatically create the directory for you. it will detect the plugin if it's in one of the directories, otherwise you'll have to add that directory manually |
| 02:56.02 | luke-jr | smorg: I hope not! |
| 02:57.29 | Che-Anarc | Any recommendations for a good mp3 player with maybe some visualisation stuff... I've been using winamp for many years. |
| 02:57.48 | drantin | amarok with various plugins |
| 02:57.51 | Jucato | amarok. |
| 02:57.58 | Jucato | dunno if juk has visualization |
| 02:58.00 | smorg | May I ask where konq looks? I can't seem to find a whole lot of info on konq plugins. |
| 02:58.19 | Jucato | smorg: Settings -> Configure Konqueror -> Plugins |
| 02:58.20 | drantin | projectM is a linux port of milkdrop, which you may know from winamp... |
| 02:58.26 | drantin | which works with amarok |
| 02:59.06 | Jucato | smorg: there's a whole list of directories which konqueror scans. if the directory where your flash plugin is installed is not there, you have to add it first then click Scan for new plugins |
| 02:59.58 | smorg | right, i have no scan option because theres no "plugins" category under konqueror settings. |
| 03:01.09 | smorg | I'm actually using the genkdesvn repository for paludis/gentoo, so if they did things correctly that *should* all work itself out. (otherwise i'll have to switch up the ebuilds by hand) |
| 03:01.31 | drantin | and if it changes things submit patches |
| 03:02.40 | Jucato | *if* they did things correctly and *if* you installed the necessary packages. gentoo has very split split ebuilds :) |
| 03:03.03 | Jucato | I think they have a #genkdesvn channel for help |
| 03:03.10 | Jucato | (or at least #gentoo-kde) |
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| 03:03.36 | smorg | yea its a bit inactive so i thought i'd check here to see how it works. I'll do a bit more playing. :) |
| 03:06.11 | drantin | you didn't ask anything in #genkdesvn :P |
| 03:06.59 | smorg | 21:50 < smorg> can konqueror do flash at the moment? I installed nsplugins a while ago, yet no plugins option automagically appeared in konqueror's settings. |
| 03:07.30 | Rayy | smorg: it can, but its slow |
| 03:07.41 | drantin | hm... sorry, had the channel pages up some... |
| 03:07.51 | drantin | paged* |
| 03:07.55 | smorg | yea i was looking to see if you joined after me ^^ |
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| 03:10.59 | smorg | konqueror is amazing, flash is essentially the one thing that keeps me from using it as a complete replacement for firefox. So fast and well ortanized; and its QT! Can't say no to anything begining with K* |
| 03:11.14 | hdevalence | smorg: i concur |
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| 03:11.28 | Che-Anarc | How does "system:/media" work? and how comes I cant access some of what it has found? |
| 03:11.39 | hdevalence | smorg: I especially like the integration |
| 03:11.53 | Che-Anarc | It says something like "TODO rething right." |
| 03:12.04 | Che-Anarc | Or device /dev.... busy |
| 03:12.27 | smorg | hdevalence: kio & kparts just plain rock. Its a wonder konqueror isn't more popular, and that people even feel the need for dolphin to exist. |
| 03:12.50 | hdevalence | smorg: actually I like dolphin. |
| 03:13.28 | hdevalence | smorg: specifically, I like the "information" docker on the side |
| 03:13.49 | hdevalence | smorg: and the splitting is more intuitive than konqueror |
| 03:14.13 | smorg | Yeah dolphin is nice also, and if people just need a graphical file browser (which i hardly ever do instead of command line) and don't use konqueror a lot, I can see how dolphin would make sense. |
| 03:14.36 | smorg | yes thats true, splitting does work better |
| 03:14.55 | smorg | On the other side, that functionality could be integrated into konq's file browser profile. |
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| 03:15.36 | hdevalence | smorg: basically I think that konqueror falls in the middle of the complex+powerful ------ easy+simple gradient for file management, and then there is dolphin at the 'easy' end and bash at the 'complex' end |
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| 03:15.51 | Gigantic | Hola |
| 03:16.31 | Gigantic | where do I disable the veeeeeeeeeeeery annoying feature that dunno what the hell it is, but beeps whenever I press Shift or Ctrl for a long time |
| 03:16.48 | Gigantic | KDE4.1 |
| 03:16.49 | hdevalence | Gigantic: sounds like one of the accessibility things |
| 03:16.53 | smorg | Gigantic: thats probably the sticky keys |
| 03:16.54 | Gigantic | yeah |
| 03:17.20 | hdevalence | Gigantic: System settings->Accessibility |
| 03:17.33 | Gigantic | already try there |
| 03:17.40 | Gigantic | but still hear beeps |
| 03:17.55 | hdevalence | in the "Modifier keys" tab have you disabled the "sticky keys" thing? |
| 03:18.11 | Gigantic | yups |
| 03:18.30 | hdevalence | or what about in the next tab over there is 'slow keys' i think |
| 03:18.34 | Gigantic | slow keys disabled also |
| 03:18.41 | Gigantic | heh |
| 03:18.51 | Gigantic | oh wait |
| 03:19.02 | Gigantic | forgot to uncheck the "use gestures..." |
| 03:19.19 | hdevalence | Gigantic: does it fix it? |
| 03:19.42 | smorg | bash is just unavoidable when you start doing all your file managment with programs feeding to awk/sed |
| 03:19.53 | Gigantic | yup, just forgot to uncheck that... is very annoying, wonder if anyone find it actually useful |
| 03:20.10 | smorg | giggles at the name sticky keys. |
| 03:20.18 | hdevalence | Gigantic: it's very useful for people with disabilities afair |
| 03:20.47 | N9NU | can someone tell me what file the Kmenu contents are stored in? |
| 03:20.52 | Gigantic | maybe |
| 03:20.58 | Gigantic | ty anyways |
| 03:21.26 | N9NU | when I run Kmenuedit it saves, but I would like to know exactly where ... within .kde4/ somewhere |
| 03:21.40 | smorg | N9NU: probably something under .kde. You can probably use find with some of the entries in it to find the file. |
| 03:22.04 | smorg | ~/.kde |
| 03:22.06 | apt | rumour has it, /.kde is the directory where...nm |
| 03:22.44 | N9NU | yeah i know that part |
| 03:22.46 | N9NU | loo |
| 03:22.47 | N9NU | l |
| 03:22.53 | N9NU | i will just backup .kde |
| 03:22.54 | N9NU | 4 |
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| 03:23.17 | matias__ | hi all |
| 03:23.30 | Gigantic | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:23.37 | hdevalence | N9NU: afair configuration is stored in .kde/share/config/someprogramrc |
| 03:23.40 | smorg | N9NU: you're upgrading? and it doesn't automatically carry those over? what distro? |
| 03:23.40 | N9NU | why thank you |
| 03:23.45 | matias__ | anybody here can lend me a hand setting up my keyboard... |
| 03:23.46 | N9NU | negative |
| 03:23.46 | Gigantic | not a file but a config folder |
| 03:23.51 | smorg | heh. |
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| 03:23.58 | N9NU | i modified my menu structure extensively |
| 03:24.09 | Gigantic | oh I tought u meant the menu |
| 03:24.21 | matias__ | i have a dell vostro 1400 and no way to get two keys working with kde 4 |
| 03:24.23 | N9NU | i should have said contents |
| 03:24.50 | Gigantic | N9NU: Backup ~/.kde/share/mimelnk/ |
| 03:25.03 | N9NU | roger that |
| 03:26.02 | smorg | thinks lancelot is sexy. |
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| 03:26.22 | matias__ | the problem started after i managed to get hal running... |
| 03:26.28 | drantin | I have font problems with 'Get Hot New Stuff' and lancelot... |
| 03:26.36 | matias__ | i have no xorg.conf |
| 03:26.43 | hdevalence | smorg: i've heard about it, but I have no real idea what it does |
| 03:27.14 | hdevalence | other than run stuff i guess |
| 03:27.14 | hdevalence | right now I just use alt+space for krunner |
| 03:27.14 | drantin | no more mouse clicking to run stuff either ;) |
| 03:27.21 | drantin | I use alt+f2 >_> |
| 03:27.32 | smorg | hdevalence: its just a replacement for application launcher/raptor |
| 03:27.41 | smorg | same functionality, different format. |
| 03:27.45 | smorg | afaik. |
| 03:28.01 | hdevalence | drantin: alt+space is better than alt+f2 imo beacuse they are right next to each other |
| 03:28.07 | hdevalence | but that's a bit nitpicky |
| 03:28.20 | drantin | I also use ctrl+space to enable japanese input |
| 03:28.33 | Che-Anarc | Can anyone recommened a howto on configuring mounting, "media:/"? The only thing of mine that shows is my cd drive at the moment. |
| 03:28.35 | drantin | ä»æ¥ã¯ï¼ |
| 03:28.41 | hdevalence | drantin: ah, that would be very useful |
| 03:28.53 | luke-jr | drantin: how? :o |
| 03:28.56 | N9NU | what else do you have Che-Anarc |
| 03:29.01 | drantin | via skim |
| 03:29.12 | hdevalence | drantin: that's pretty neat |
| 03:29.46 | Che-Anarc | N9NU: I have a ntfs hdd on an ide removable bay, floppy & boot |
| 03:30.05 | smorg | Che-Anarc: /media is a mystery to me too. I've never bothered to touch it and instead mount manually. |
| 03:30.08 | smorg | to /mount |
| 03:30.10 | junkDawgie | tries to rig piglatin onto the ctl-space keys |
| 03:30.15 | hdevalence | drantin: something I've always wondered about: how does inputting characters work? I would imagine that there would be too many to have all on the keyboard |
| 03:30.27 | N9NU | unless you are using "automount", then you can do it manually |
| 03:30.43 | N9NU | or add a script to /etc/init.d/rc.local |
| 03:30.53 | hdevalence | junkDawgie: I find that ctrl+space=the kwin zoom out to desktop grid thing is really good |
| 03:30.58 | N9NU | mount /dev/hdx /mnt/xxx |
| 03:31.03 | drantin | hdevalence: well, this is on a qwerty keyboard, it's different on a japanese one. here you type it in a romaji format and hit space bar to interpret into kanji |
| 03:31.35 | N9NU | i dont like anything mounted for me, so I manually do it via a script which I access via an icon on my desktop |
| 03:31.43 | junkDawgie | maybe i should hotkey it to yoda-speak |
| 03:31.48 | drantin | the romaji is automatically interpreted to either hiragana or katakana depending on the option in skim |
| 03:31.59 | Che-Anarc | N9NU: But doesnt that have to be with root permission? |
| 03:32.04 | hdevalence | drantin: ah i see. I presume romaji is japanese using the roman characters? |
| 03:32.24 | drantin | hdevalence: loosly defined, yes ;) |
| 03:32.32 | N9NU | if its ntfs you can use: mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/xxx /mnt/xxx -o rw to give it write permissions |
| 03:32.38 | drantin | loosely? |
| 03:32.40 | drantin | meh |
| 03:32.55 | N9NU | you can set it up so that any user can use it |
| 03:32.57 | smorg | N9NU: I agree completely. I use fstab, or maunal mount. udev is nice. |
| 03:32.58 | N9NU | or mount it |
| 03:33.11 | smorg | especially with fuse stuff |
| 03:33.17 | hdevalence | smorg: I use magic to mount things |
| 03:33.20 | smorg | i mount my webserver in fstab with curlftpfs |
| 03:33.58 | hdevalence | smorg: i click on it in the plasma applet and it mounts and then i click and it unmounts. Really simple and easy. |
| 03:34.12 | matias__ | anyone here with hal and xorg-server without xorg.conf, hotplug enabled and a keyboard whitch layout difers from US...i have an ABNT2 and no way to get question mark and slash to work on kde4 |
| 03:34.24 | junkDawgie | this automount thing is something i've been meaning to ask about.... kde3 apps, like amarok, k3b, klamav.... don't usually see the CD/DVD device.... but if you start dolphin and go to them.... it initiates a mount... what's up with that? |
| 03:34.31 | Che-Anarc | N9NU: how? I tried the fstab method of adding users option and then using autofs but nothing is automounted... but I think kde is not related to that stuff? |
| 03:34.33 | Gigantic | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:35.08 | N9NU | which distro |
| 03:35.24 | smorg | bah, you and your automatic stuff. :b |
| 03:35.28 | Che-Anarc | junkDawgie: whats dolphine? |
| 03:35.35 | smorg | uninstalls all of kde & xorg. Installs gnu screen |
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| 03:35.51 | N9NU | here is what it looks like to have a hard drive setup to have user read/write/etc |
| 03:35.53 | drantin | you don't have screen installed yet? |
| 03:35.56 | junkDawgie | dolphin is a file manager.... |
| 03:36.14 | Che-Anarc | Basically the problem is for a nontechnical users / guest... I'm just thinking how should a setup for them be facilitiated / created so that anything they connect shows up. |
| 03:36.31 | smorg | drantin: believe it or not, i don't. I've been meaning to get into it so that i can use it with putty when i don't need to load my full blown DE with nx server. |
| 03:36.51 | drantin | heh, I'm in screen right now inside of konsole |
| 03:37.01 | smorg | seriously lol? |
| 03:37.05 | drantin | using irssi |
| 03:37.07 | smorg | thats easier than split konsole? |
| 03:37.16 | junkDawgie | usually i get a message from the kde3 app that "KDE multimedia manager not found" |
| 03:37.18 | matias__ | is there any automatic stuff to get my question mark back |
| 03:37.37 | Che-Anarc | N9NU: my distro is gentoo |
| 03:37.51 | matias__ | running gentoo here also |
| 03:37.56 | smorg | or yakuake. the konsole split windows are real convienient. |
| 03:38.07 | drantin | matias__: didn't you have it working yesterday? |
| 03:38.11 | drantin | or was that someone else? |
| 03:38.12 | smorg | <-- gentooer. |
| 03:38.19 | N9NU | /dev/sdb1 : |
| 03:38.21 | N9NU | UUID=5ED49D8FD49D69D3 /mnt/usb2 ntfs-3g user,user_xattr,exec,rw 0 0 |
| 03:38.29 | luke-jr | ? â â â â½ |
| 03:38.30 | N9NU | all one line |
| 03:38.31 | matias__ | drantin: yes it was me...but...that was until i started hal |
| 03:38.34 | N9NU | my bad |
| 03:38.56 | N9NU | with that...all users will have read write permissions |
| 03:39.13 | N9NU | you dont need that UUID crap |
| 03:39.13 | Che-Anarc | Basically 2 things I'm really not happy about... video playback... and these mounting issues... if I can resovle these 2 hopefully I can get closer to doing my mutimedia stuff. |
| 03:39.31 | matias__ | drantin: don´t know why..but as soon as it started...the keyboard started working weird...i started hal to get battery, suspend and laptop functions... |
| 03:40.01 | Che-Anarc | N9NU: this is a fstab entery?... where does that go? |
| 03:40.05 | smorg | Che_Anarc: using mount is so easy. :/ |
| 03:40.15 | N9NU | yeah that is an fstab line |
| 03:40.16 | smorg | I'll do some research and try to figure that out since it would be nice for me too. |
| 03:40.29 | Che-Anarc | smorg: as I said I'm trying to figure a good solution for users not me! |
| 03:40.49 | matias__ | i went to systemsettings and setted keyboard layout to evdev managed ...as stated in some forums...but didn´t work... |
| 03:40.51 | smorg | Che-Anarc: yeah gotcha, sorry. :) |
| 03:41.08 | N9NU | it would go like: /dev/sdb1 /mnt/usb2/ ntfs-3g user,user_xattr,exec,rw 0 0 |
| 03:41.13 | Che-Anarc | N9NU: and how to make a connection between that and media:// |
| 03:41.27 | N9NU | replace sdb1 with your dev |
| 03:41.38 | drantin | matias__: check settings in /etc/conf.d/keymaps ? |
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| 03:41.43 | drantin | if on openrc |
| 03:41.47 | N9NU | well....you can mount that to /media/xxx instead |
| 03:41.54 | N9NU | media is setup for automounting |
| 03:41.56 | drantin | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:42.09 | matias__ | drantin: yes i´m on openrc...let me see /etc/conf.d/keymaps... |
| 03:42.21 | N9NU | you can use whatever you want .. location wise ...to mount a device |
| 03:43.23 | matias__ | drantin: the file is ok..the right config...i forget to metion...on text mode it works fine...only on X and only if hal is started... |
| 03:43.37 | matias__ | the question mark and slash share the same key |
| 03:44.11 | drantin | yes on my keyboard they're the same button as well, but it's qwerty |
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| 03:44.58 | matias__ | it's qwerty also...basicaly...but with keys from portuguese |
| 03:45.00 | drantin | you could always try generating a xorg.conf via `X -configure` and modifying it... |
| 03:45.00 | smorg | matias__: would installing a font server help? not sure if thats a font or xorg issue. |
| 03:45.25 | smorg | that too... not sure why you wouldn't want an xorg.conf. |
| 03:45.26 | matias__ | smorg: i think it's related to the way xorg can handle input devices |
| 03:45.32 | smorg | but i'm no expert at that. |
| 03:46.01 | drantin | there might be a hal setting somewhere for keymaps... |
| 03:46.06 | drantin | not really certain about that.. |
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| 03:46.46 | matias__ | drantin: they are at /etc/hal/fdi/policy |
| 03:47.15 | matias__ | teorically there's a way to do the same things you do with xorg.conf |
| 03:47.38 | N9NU | brb |
| 03:47.43 | smorg | how about locales? |
| 03:47.52 | matias__ | smorg: they are ok |
| 03:47.56 | drantin | probably simpler with xorg.conf, iirc, you just set keymap="whatever" i the Keyboard section... |
| 03:47.58 | smorg | hm |
| 03:48.22 | drantin | lshal | grep keymap |
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| 03:48.48 | matias__ | drantin: empty |
| 03:49.22 | matias__ | this file is empty also...10-x11-input.fdi |
| 03:50.17 | drantin | I don't really know... |
| 03:50.21 | matias__ | hummm...if i'm not wrong...the installation process should have filled this file... |
| 03:50.49 | drantin | mine is empty as well |
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| 03:51.06 | matias__ | drantin: do you have a xorg.conf file |
| 03:51.47 | drantin | matias__: it seems the hal install on gentoo also migrates some settings from an active xorg.conf ... |
| 03:52.02 | matias__ | drantin: how your keyboard layout is setted on systemsettings->regional and language |
| 03:52.21 | drantin | http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=224277 shows where a bug was fixed regarding the migration tool |
| 03:52.48 | drantin | or rather, wasn't fixed yet :/ |
| 03:53.07 | matias__ | drantin: yeap...i just emerged hal...and i have no xorg.conf...but i think i have one here... |
| 03:53.14 | matias__ | that works.. |
| 03:53.20 | smorg | I actually reinstalled my hal just today, and I just completely merged my xorg.conf with etc-paludis. No problems so far here, but i have a very standard keyboard layout. |
| 03:53.20 | drantin | matias__: `X -configure` should dump a basic working xorg.conf in $HOME |
| 03:53.34 | matias__ | is there any way to just run the post install actons |
| 03:53.52 | smorg | emerge --configure |
| 03:54.13 | matias__ | let me try |
| 03:54.27 | smorg | er --config maybe |
| 03:54.33 | smorg | don't remember for portage |
| 03:54.59 | matias__ | smorg: portage use --configure...paludis use --config |
| 03:55.52 | drantin | this is really offtopic for this channel btw ;) |
| 03:56.00 | smorg | oh noes. |
| 03:56.46 | matias__ | suppose it works...i mean...it migrates the settings... |
| 03:56.52 | drantin | matias__: less /usr/portage/sys-apps/hal/hal-0.5.11.ebuild scroll to the bottom... |
| 03:56.57 | matias__ | what shoud be the settup on systemsettings |
| 03:58.20 | matias__ | drantin: yeap...i see... |
| 03:58.58 | matias__ | drantin: that's way i went to systemsettings trying to setup the layout there |
| 04:00.09 | matias__ | right now i enabled keyboard layouts, choosed evdev-managed keyboard and choosed Brazil br from the listing ... |
| 04:00.31 | matias__ | the line executed is setxkbmap -model evdev -layout br -variant |
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| 04:01.18 | smorg | o/t: hm, havne't noticed this article: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_D-BUS,_HAL,_KDE_media:/ |
| 04:01.40 | drantin | the wiki is generally horribly dated anyway... |
| 04:02.06 | drantin | and no one wants to remove the bad/wrong stuff, so it sits mixed in with what works |
| 04:03.00 | matias__ | smorg: it's empty |
| 04:03.02 | smorg | i know! thats the bad part. usually however you can tell fairly quickly when info is old, and it will at least give you a general idea of what to do. |
| 04:03.20 | smorg | cool thing about the wiki is the sheer number of topics covered |
| 04:03.33 | smorg | i send people there from lots of distros |
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| 04:24.07 | matias__ | hey...thank you all...i try this later...too tired now |
| 04:24.09 | matias__ | see ya |
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| 04:48.48 | smorg | so it looks like this is what i have that has to do with flash: /opt/netscape/plugins/libflashplayer.so |
| 04:51.35 | smorg | also a simlink to it here: /opt/netscape/plugins/libflashplayer.so |
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| 06:07.44 | mib_u3c6az | hey |
| 06:07.57 | mib_u3c6az | how do I configure kopete for gtalk? |
| 06:08.03 | mib_u3c6az | http://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/6zcsf/best_anti_us_rant_ever/ |
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| 06:16.27 | Che-Anarc | Is there a way to make cd eject when taken to wastebin like in gnome? |
| 06:17.33 | luke-jr | Che-Anarc: logically, KDE should destroy the CD if you do that |
| 06:18.34 | lilltiger | shred /dev/cdrom |
| 06:18.36 | lilltiger | ;D |
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| 06:35.43 | luke-jr | dereine: spam filtering is a server job |
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| 06:35.55 | dereine | mh ok |
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| 06:50.54 | dcrabs | mib_u3c6az: http://www.google.com/support/talk/bin/answer.py?answer=57557&topic=1415 |
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| 07:09.40 | Le_Vert__ | hello :) |
| 07:09.53 | Le_Vert__ | I have a small question about kde4 desktop |
| 07:10.16 | Le_Vert__ | I can't manage to add icons to start applications |
| 07:10.27 | Le_Vert__ | next to the K button |
| 07:10.34 | Le_Vert__ | I used to do that with kde3.5 |
| 07:10.42 | Le_Vert__ | I can add plasmoides |
| 07:10.54 | Le_Vert__ | but no applications shortcut |
| 07:11.17 | Le_Vert__ | when I try to drag and drop an application shortcut from K menu or from desktop |
| 07:11.21 | Le_Vert__ | it doesn't work either |
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| 07:11.58 | Le_Vert__ | any help would be appreciated :) |
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| 07:14.22 | luke-jr | Le_Vert__: try right-clicking on menu items |
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| 07:19.42 | Che-Anarc | I have flash installed but Konqueror is complaining about it not being present. |
| 07:20.24 | thiago_home | where is the libflashplugin.so ? |
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| 07:22.46 | ebdomino | rou / hello |
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| 07:24.26 | Che-Anarc | thiago_home: I'm searching for it now... where should it be? |
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| 07:24.51 | Jucato | Che-Anarc: where did you install it? |
| 07:25.13 | Jucato | Che-Anarc: does "about:plugins" (type that in Konqueror's address bar) list Flash? |
| 07:25.35 | Che-Anarc | Well I didnt manually install it... i just used distro tool to do it... emerge netscape-flash |
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| 07:28.39 | Che-Anarc | I have them in: /opt/netscape/plugins/libflashplayer.so & /usr/lib32/nsbrowser/plugins/libflashplayer.so how to point konqueror to them? |
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| 07:29.45 | Jucato | Che-Anarc: Settings -> Configure Konqueror -> Plugins page |
| 07:30.43 | Che-Anarc | Jucato: but the folder is already listed therein. |
| 07:31.23 | Jucato | check in the plugins section if it lists flashplayer |
| 07:32.01 | Che-Anarc | Jucato: yeah I did but it doesnt... it just has Netscape Plugins |
| 07:32.29 | Jucato | try clicking on the Scan for plugins button |
| 07:33.04 | Che-Anarc | still nothing. |
| 07:34.39 | thiago_home | Konqueror 64-bit? |
| 07:35.06 | Che-Anarc | Yes |
| 07:35.11 | Jucato | aaah |
| 07:35.19 | Jucato | headdesks for not asking :) |
| 07:35.30 | thiago_home | right |
| 07:35.31 | thiago_home | bad choice |
| 07:35.34 | thiago_home | can't help you |
| 07:36.04 | Che-Anarc | ha?...oh are there known issues? |
| 07:36.07 | Jucato | can't help my headdeskting? just put your hand at the back of my head and WHAM! |
| 07:36.19 | Le_Vert__ | you should check nspluginwrapper |
| 07:36.22 | Jucato | Che-Anarc: technically there is no 64-bit flash (and no 64-bit java) |
| 07:36.25 | Le_Vert__ | but it's broken |
| 07:36.51 | Jucato | so you'll have to bend over backwards to make Flash (and Java) work on a 64-bit installation |
| 07:37.02 | Le_Vert__ | flash + nspluginwrapper |
| 07:37.08 | Le_Vert__ | java 7 icedtea |
| 07:37.19 | Jucato | right. bending over backwards :) |
| 07:37.24 | Le_Vert__ | it's not perfect but at least it works (in most cases) |
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| 07:38.07 | Che-Anarc | I have nspluginwrapper installed though. |
| 07:39.16 | Le_Vert__ | so you should point konqueror to the directory containing 32bit plugin wrapped by nspluginwrapper |
| 07:39.47 | Che-Anarc | Le_Vert__: any idea where that would be? |
| 07:40.02 | Le_Vert__ | don't have my 64bits box up |
| 07:40.14 | Le_Vert__ | and it probably depends on what distro you use |
| 07:40.21 | Le_Vert__ | and how did you install nspluginwrapper :) |
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| 07:41.07 | Le_Vert__ | find / -name '*flash*' may be a starting point |
| 07:41.36 | Le_Vert__ | or maybe you can just run nspluginwrapper in a term |
| 07:41.39 | Le_Vert__ | and see the help |
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| 07:44.08 | Che-Anarc | I have: /usr/lib32/nsbrowser/plugins/libflashplayer.so and also that in lib64... but in Configure of Konqueror it just has the 64 directories... that is probably it. |
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| 07:45.14 | Le_Vert__ | if i remember well, nspluginwrapper wrapped plugins contains np in their name |
| 07:45.20 | Le_Vert__ | like libflashplugin.np.so |
| 07:45.29 | Che-Anarc | > /usr/lib64/nsbrowser/plugins/npwrapper.libflashplayer.so |
| 07:45.37 | Le_Vert__ | yeah |
| 07:45.43 | Le_Vert__ | that looks really better |
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| 07:47.47 | Che-Anarc | Yeah that fixed it... I added that directory. |
| 07:48.26 | Le_Vert__ | :) |
| 07:48.35 | Che-Anarc | 2 other questions... how to make firefox the default browser & how comes Alt+Shift Tab doesnt work... it just scrolls through list of windows same as Alt+Tab |
| 07:49.00 | Le_Vert__ | dunno |
| 07:49.28 | Le_Vert__ | I've been running kde4 for 20hours : |
| 07:49.29 | Le_Vert__ | :D |
| 07:49.42 | Jucato | Che-Anarc: KDE 3: KControl -> KDE Components -> Component Chooser. KDE 4: System Settings -> Default Applications |
| 07:49.53 | Jucato | not sure about your issue with Alt+Tab and Alt+Shift+Tab |
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| 07:51.20 | Che-Anarc | Thanks everyone :-) |
| 07:51.34 | Le_Vert__ | do you what to restart |
| 07:51.39 | Le_Vert__ | when everything goes grey |
| 07:51.47 | Le_Vert__ | desktop, wallpaper, menu, plasmoides |
| 07:52.03 | Jucato | Alt+F2, "plasma" |
| 07:52.03 | Le_Vert__ | but opened windows keeps working and window decoration are still working too |
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| 07:52.18 | Le_Vert__ | thanks ;-) |
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| 07:53.38 | Le_Vert__ | I still not found yet how to add apps shortcuts next to the K button |
| 07:53.43 | Le_Vert__ | please tell me if you know |
| 07:53.46 | Le_Vert__ | it's really annoying |
| 07:53.57 | drantin | right click on something in the menu ? |
| 07:53.59 | Jucato | Le_Vert__: right-click -> Add to Panel |
| 07:54.05 | Jucato | right-click on the menu item |
| 07:54.11 | Le_Vert__ | inside K menu ? |
| 07:54.13 | Jucato | make sure your widgets aren't locked though |
| 07:54.15 | Jucato | yep |
| 07:54.29 | Jucato | you should be using the Application Launcher (Kickoff style) |
| 07:54.38 | Le_Vert__ | okay |
| 07:54.43 | Le_Vert__ | that's the problem |
| 07:54.49 | Le_Vert__ | I'm running the old way menu |
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| 07:55.07 | Jucato | well you can revert temporarily to the default menu to add apps :) |
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| 07:55.18 | Jucato | you can also drag and drop actually, but that's a bit trickier |
| 07:55.45 | Jucato | (you have to make sure your cursor is exactly over a space in betweend widgets/empty space before you drop) |
| 07:56.07 | bibopp | yep dnd is tricky |
| 07:56.16 | Le_Vert__ | yeah I switched to kickoff menu |
| 07:56.22 | Le_Vert__ | but right click on an app |
| 07:56.42 | Le_Vert__ | just allow be to add it to bookmarks |
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| 07:57.24 | Jucato | like I said, check that your widgets are unlock. right-click on the desktop -> Unlock Widgets |
| 07:57.32 | drantin | bibopp: dnd is tricky when the destination isn't clearly marked... |
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| 07:57.44 | Le_Vert__ | it works |
| 07:57.46 | Le_Vert__ | thanks |
| 07:57.56 | Le_Vert__ | I was supposed to have unlocked widgets |
| 07:58.01 | Le_Vert__ | but I didn't :) |
| 07:58.04 | Le_Vert__ | thanks for your help |
| 07:58.04 | Jucato | <Jucato> make sure your widgets aren't locked though |
| 07:58.18 | bibopp | is there s port of kinternet done |
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| 08:00.05 | Che-Anarc | Oh any recommendation on program for dvd/cd burning... I've used nero most of my life :-p |
| 08:00.22 | Jucato | k3b |
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| 08:00.39 | Jucato | bibopp: what's kinternet? |
| 08:01.46 | Che-Anarc | How does development on kde go?... in terms of licences and redistribution? |
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| 08:02.33 | Jucato | LGPL for kdelibs, GPL for the rest |
| 08:02.48 | Jucato | at least the main KDE modules (kdebase, kdemultimedia, etc) |
| 08:03.55 | bibopp | its a plication from kde3.5 for dialup connections i used it for umts connection whith my mobile phone and bluetooth |
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| 08:10.47 | annma | the tabs are vertical |
| 08:11.10 | annma | wrong channel |
| 08:11.25 | Jucato | heh |
| 08:11.35 | annma | ;) |
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| 08:13.30 | Che-Anarc | What about video editing / effects are there any alternatives to the adobe suit? |
| 08:13.52 | annma | what adobe suite? |
| 08:14.10 | Che-Anarc | After Effects (primarly) and Premier |
| 08:14.13 | annma | there are a couple of good KDE video editing apps |
| 08:14.23 | annma | I don't know those |
| 08:14.25 | Jucato | kdenlive |
| 08:14.29 | annma | what do you want to do exactly? |
| 08:14.32 | annma | kino |
| 08:14.59 | Che-Anarc | Differnt interporlation between keyframes and transitions / effects that sort of thing? |
| 08:15.20 | Jucato | (of course Kino isn't a KDE app.. but :) |
| 08:16.13 | drantin | avidemux2 has a qt interface... |
| 08:16.30 | Che-Anarc | drantin: is that an avid thing? :-p |
| 08:16.31 | drantin | but it's closer to virtualdub than anything else |
| 08:17.26 | Che-Anarc | drantin: yeah virtualdub is good for encoding and post-production stuff... I'll look into avidemux2 |
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| 08:18.00 | drantin | unfortunately, there's no working linux version of avisynth... |
| 08:18.17 | drantin | which was a large part of what made virtualdub so powerful... |
| 08:18.23 | drantin | imho... |
| 08:18.31 | Che-Anarc | indeed! |
| 08:19.16 | Che-Anarc | drantin: so how to do frame serving? |
| 08:19.36 | drantin | not sure, haven't really had to for a while |
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| 08:19.51 | drantin | you can take a look at what cinelerra is capable of too, but it's not a KDE app |
| 08:20.30 | annma | oh cinelerra |
| 08:20.34 | annma | powerful |
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| 08:22.22 | Che-Anarc | It looks very cool. |
| 08:22.54 | drantin | ooh... didn't knoew cinelerra had a recent release... |
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| 08:39.40 | Che-Anarc | drantin: Out of interest do you know where applications should be put?... I'm going to compile cinelerra and would want to to have it avalible systemwide... at the moment I got too many applications in my home directory. |
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| 08:40.15 | drantin | on a gentoo box? |
| 08:40.47 | drantin | if you don't want to install to /usr etc, you can give it a directory in /opt ... |
| 08:40.55 | Che-Anarc | drantin: yes... I'm just not use to the linux file structure / system. |
| 08:41.06 | drantin | i see you in #gentoo-amd64 too, but you can install cinelerra via portage... |
| 08:41.19 | drantin | ah, the FHS |
| 08:41.21 | Che-Anarc | drantin: its not latest relase. |
| 08:41.29 | drantin | Filesystem Heirarchy Structure or some such... |
| 08:41.35 | drantin | put it in /opt then |
| 08:41.40 | Che-Anarc | thanks. |
| 08:42.00 | drantin | people will still need it in their PATH though |
| 08:42.51 | Che-Anarc | I got to find a good howto on allowing for a guest / none registered users.... I got no idea how to set all that up. |
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| 08:43.40 | drantin | a guest is easy, just make a user named guest with only a few groups that give access to what they need... users,video,audio ... |
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| 08:47.02 | Che-Anarc | drantin: anyway to disable password... so that upon Login: guest it will just omit / accept any password? I'm not using any DISPLAYMANAGER |
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| 08:47.29 | Che-Anarc | So it would be great if I can just fire a script there after to launch kde for them. |
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| 08:48.22 | drantin | well, you can put startx in bashrc if you really want to |
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| 08:57.50 | rizvan | qt 4.5 snapshot is ignoring -release switch, install is 544MB |
| 08:58.26 | drantin | perhaps someone should report the bug to trolltech instead of #kde ? |
| 08:58.41 | Jucato | rizvan: #qt please |
| 08:58.50 | rizvan | ok, |
| 08:58.53 | rizvan | sorry |
| 08:59.09 | drantin | meh, I come off like a mean person at times >_> |
| 08:59.19 | drantin | time to sleep anyway |
| 08:59.27 | rizvan | good night, and u r not mean |
| 08:59.28 | Jucato | "some... times"? O.o |
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| 09:30.53 | apollonx | hi all. i need an advice of kde hacker. |
| 09:31.27 | apollonx | i'm writing a kicker applet, for my local accounting functions. |
| 09:31.36 | annma | kde version? |
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| 09:32.08 | apollonx | when user's balance is 0, i need to make display black and display a window, where user can fillup his balance |
| 09:32.12 | apollonx | kde-3.5 |
| 09:33.15 | apollonx | i need behavior like in ksmserver, when it displays shutdown dialog |
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| 09:34.37 | apollonx | actually i have written a code, but i cannt disable Alt+Tab, while this window is shown. |
| 09:34.53 | apollonx | how can i disable Alt+Tab from my code? |
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| 09:38.10 | annma | maybe you should send a mail to kde-devel mailing list apollonx |
| 09:38.53 | apollonx | well, i'll do it. if there will be no answer here. |
| 09:39.52 | Jucato | there might be no answer here, since this is the user support channel... most are users, not hackers :) |
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| 09:41.00 | apollonx | ok, sorry :) |
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| 09:44.44 | lxsameer | all : does kde4 have any utils for bluetoosh? |
| 09:44.55 | lxsameer | bluetooth |
| 09:45.36 | DrEeevil | kbluetooth4 iirc? |
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| 09:47.14 | lxsameer | DrEeevil: what do you mean? |
| 09:49.10 | lxsameer | all : ^^^ |
| 09:49.33 | DrEeevil | I imply that there is an application in kde4 by that name, unless I am mistaken |
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| 09:51.49 | lxsameer | DrEeevil : in which package? i don't have it maybe i should build it |
| 09:53.25 | Jucato | lxsameer: it can be found in kde-apps.org |
| 09:53.33 | Jucato | they just recently made a 0.1 release for the KDE 4 version |
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| 10:01.21 | Che-Anarc | Why is ktorrent so big? |
| 10:02.06 | Jucato | big in what sense? |
| 10:02.19 | metalth | Che-Anarc: use rtorrent. |
| 10:02.22 | Che-Anarc | Jucato: big in size :-) |
| 10:02.32 | Jucato | which size? |
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| 10:02.38 | Jucato | file size? memory usage? what? |
| 10:02.41 | Che-Anarc | Jucato: file size! |
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| 10:03.31 | Jucato | how big is it? |
| 10:04.08 | gkiagia | the package is 9 MB but it is normal imho, it includes shared libraries, plugins, icons and search engine data |
| 10:04.22 | Jucato | source code seems to be 2.5MB |
| 10:04.29 | gkiagia | ktorrent itself is 700 kb |
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| 10:05.27 | Che-Anarc | Hmmm.... ok my bad... yeah its not so big.... anyway to have a web interface for ktorrent to be able to add stuff remotely? |
| 10:05.59 | gkiagia | it has a web interface plugin |
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| 10:22.40 | Che-Anarc | drantin: Cinelerra is quiet good... do you have any other recommendations in terms of video applications? |
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| 10:30.06 | DrEeevil | EvilMice: erm, squid is not a pop3 proxy. you might want to reconsider your strategy ... |
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| 10:42.11 | lbt | hi, when I do dcop kicker kicker restart it just says 'call failed'. Any suggestions? |
| 10:43.52 | Che-Anarc | The web interface on ktorrent is messed.... you put username and password in and it doesnt do anything. |
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| 10:49.02 | lbt | I'm on Debian, kdelibs is 4:3.5.9.dfsg.1-6 |
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| 10:49.50 | endeavor | Hi. Can anybody tell where I can find the guy who wrote Statistics plugin for KTorrent or the source of that plugin? |
| 10:50.51 | endeavor | Average speed determination could be much better... |
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| 10:55.10 | lbt | ah well, thanks for the help (!) |
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| 11:04.27 | g2g591 | endeavor: http://websvn.kde.org/branches/extragear/kde3/network/ktorrent/ is the kde3 ktorrent source |
| 11:07.03 | slacker_nl | does anyone know how i can reload this file .kde/share/config/khotkeysrc (kde 3.x) so my hotkeys are back again? |
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| 11:08.03 | endeavor | Thanks |
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| 11:10.29 | thiago | slacker_nl: if you make modifications using the KDE Control Center, they should apply immediately |
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| 11:11.08 | slacker_nl | thiago: the hotkeys broke after an ubuntu upgrade.. |
| 11:11.15 | slacker_nl | but I will give it a shot |
| 11:13.08 | thiago | then talk to Ubuntu |
| 11:13.30 | slacker_nl | :) |
| 11:13.50 | slacker_nl | already busy with a bug report, was hoping to get a reload command for this file overhere |
| 11:14.01 | thiago | it's not supposed to reload |
| 11:14.06 | slacker_nl | mkay.. |
| 11:14.07 | thiago | the modifications are saved through KCM |
| 11:15.55 | wilsonsamm | how can I keep scrolling a window with the mouse wheel from bringing that windows into focus? |
| 11:15.59 | wilsonsamm | on KDE 3.5.9 |
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| 11:57.10 | Half-Left | Great, the only Qt4 app for network and it dont come with any imstuctions on how to build it |
| 11:57.22 | Half-Left | instructions* |
| 11:58.15 | gkiagia | which app? |
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| 11:59.16 | Half-Left | NUT |
| 11:59.28 | Half-Left | http://www.qt-apps.org/content/show.php/NUT+-+Network+UTility?content=78106 |
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| 12:14.13 | gkiagia | nice looking app |
| 12:16.13 | Half-Left | Pitty I can't get it to compile :p |
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| 12:21.33 | Aji-Dahaka | drantin: to my knowledge, most japanese use romaji even on japanese keyboards which allow direct kana input. |
| 12:22.14 | gkiagia | Half-Left: i can see a .pro file in there... did you run try qmake && make ? |
| 12:23.03 | Half-Left | lets try |
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| 12:24.23 | Half-Left | gkiagia: Ahhh yer cheers |
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| 12:26.14 | titou | hi |
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| 12:31.27 | chakie_work | oh, 4.1.1 is out |
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| 12:38.14 | titou | is it normal that the shortcut actions doesn't work? |
| 12:38.30 | titou | (ie. i tried to associate an application to a key and it doesn't work) |
| 12:38.36 | titou | under KDE 4.1.1 |
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| 12:48.20 | ebdomino | jre |
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| 12:54.13 | sandsmark | doesn't konqueror in kde4 support kerberos authentication? |
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| 12:59.34 | rurouni | how do i get chinese characters to display in kde? |
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| 12:59.53 | rurouni | characters seem to display fine with xterm but not in konsole/kedit/kwrite etc |
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| 13:01.26 | annma | rurouni: weird |
| 13:01.32 | annma | what about konqueror? |
| 13:01.52 | solsTiCe | rurouni: may be you lack some fonts |
| 13:02.42 | rurouni | konqueror also doesnt display it properly |
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| 13:03.04 | annma | what kde version is it? |
| 13:03.09 | rurouni | solsTiCe: i dont think so, i already have arphicfonts installed |
| 13:03.35 | rurouni | annma: 3.5.9 |
| 13:04.12 | annma | rurouni: do you set utf8 in kwrite? |
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| 13:06.19 | titou | nobody knows for my shortcut actions trouble? |
| 13:06.42 | solsTiCe | rurouni: what are you trying to display if it is not private ? |
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| 13:08.40 | rurouni | solsTiCe: just the Yuan Renminbi currency symbol and misc other currency symbols |
| 13:09.13 | annma | rurouni: do you have a sample txt file? |
| 13:10.09 | rurouni | annma: the os is currently on utf8 |
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| 13:10.29 | rurouni | i do.. where can i paste? |
| 13:10.36 | rurouni | pastebin i suppose.. hangon.. |
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| 13:11.08 | annma | os on utf8 doe snot mean all your apps open as utf8 |
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| 13:11.34 | sandsmark | is it possible to turn off the "smooth" scrolling in konqueror? |
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| 13:12.44 | Jucato | now why did I just Ctrl+W the #kde tab? O.o |
| 13:13.04 | annma | you wanted to avoid me |
| 13:13.07 | Jucato | heheh :) |
| 13:13.28 | sandsmark | ctrl+w = remove last word on the line, I do it all the time in irssi... =) |
| 13:13.32 | Jucato | sandsmark: in konqueror (khtml) only? Settings -> Configure Konqueror -> Web Browsing |
| 13:13.41 | Jucato | but I'm in Konversation! :P |
| 13:13.52 | sandsmark | =D |
| 13:14.15 | rurouni | erg pastebin html escapes the chars |
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| 13:14.41 | rurouni | annma: basically i just see a box here: 'Yuan Renminbi','å
' |
| 13:15.03 | sandsmark | ah, the timoid-plasmoid is awesome... predefined timer forp pizza =D |
| 13:15.29 | rurouni | but this character displays fine:'Thai Barts','฿' |
| 13:15.42 | rurouni | so does this: 'Euro','â¬' |
| 13:17.13 | solsTiCe | a box means a font problem. the symbol is not available in the font |
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| 13:20.44 | Half-Left | sandsmark: Yep |
| 13:21.20 | sandsmark | and I just fixed my black-screen-instead-of-purtty-desktop-effects \o/ |
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| 13:22.56 | Half-Left | annma: Tell me what you think of the new theme for kbreakout and kbounce in trunk, feedback :) |
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| 13:25.28 | Le_Vert_ | hey kde4 users :) |
| 13:25.42 | Le_Vert_ | with kde4, my print screen key doesn't launch ksnapshot anymore |
| 13:25.45 | Le_Vert_ | any pointer ? |
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| 13:26.04 | sandsmark | Le_Vert_: I think it's disabled by default |
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| 13:26.32 | Le_Vert_ | I checked systemsettings but haven't found how to enable it |
| 13:27.05 | sandsmark | did you look in input actions? |
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| 13:29.17 | Le_Vert_ | yeah I checked evrything that may be keyboard related un systemsettings |
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| 13:31.43 | vpilo | Hi, I can't build from SVN, kdesupport gets installed but then kdelibs says it can't find strigi >= 0.6.0... what's wrong here? both kdesupport and kdelibs are fresh |
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| 13:33.00 | vpilo | do I need my distribution's strigi package,or is kdesupport supposed to install it ? |
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| 13:40.41 | nikolavp | hmm is there a way to make skype work with kopete ? |
| 13:40.50 | nikolavp | i heard there is a plugin for pidgin so there is a hope :D |
| 13:42.40 | ebdomino | re |
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| 14:06.22 | Rayy | hi, is there a comfortable way to turn on js for specific sites in konqueror? |
| 14:07.12 | vpilo | it was working two weeks ago,darn it..building kdelibs also reports that my automoc4 is 0.9.84 but I only have one installed, and it's 0.9.87, wtf? |
| 14:08.06 | zak_ | how can i creat the shorcut in konq? |
| 14:08.32 | zak_ | i wanna create the 'www .com' by hitting simply the ctrl+enter? |
| 14:08.35 | zak_ | is that possible ? |
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| 14:12.10 | wilsonsamm | zak_: i don't think it's possible, but that would be handy. File a feature request or program it in. |
| 14:14.40 | wilsonsamm | I'd like to be able to put http://www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... in with just ctrl+enter. |
| 14:15.33 | vlada | hello |
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| 14:16.38 | Rayy | hi |
| 14:16.39 | vlada | anybody using kde4.1.1 on nvidia 8500gt with propriety drivers 177.70beta? |
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| 14:23.41 | sandsmark | wilsonsamm: tried setting default search engine to wikipedia? |
| 14:23.44 | sandsmark | in web shortcuts |
| 14:24.03 | wilsonsamm | oh wow, didn't realise tha was possible |
| 14:24.05 | wilsonsamm | thanks |
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| 14:25.35 | vpilo | ls |
| 14:25.45 | vpilo | ops wrong window :P |
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| 14:26.33 | Half-Left | yay, 4.1.1 is out |
| 14:26.53 | fedora_ | l |
| 14:27.15 | Rayy | Half-Left: ye, love it :P |
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| 14:29.35 | Half-Left | :) |
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| 14:31.35 | rindolf | Hi all! Plasma crashes right at startup with KDE 4.1.1 - http://sial.org/pbot/32075 - can anyone help? |
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| 14:32.08 | rindolf | I'm using KDE 4.1.1 and Mandriva Cooker. |
| 14:32.16 | JuJuBee | Can I install kde4 and kde3 on kubuntu and will they coexist nicely? |
| 14:32.30 | jazka | JuJuBee: yes |
| 14:32.32 | vlada | JuJuBee: you should |
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| 14:32.50 | vlada | more specific question |
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| 14:33.20 | JuJuBee | When I tried to on my laptop, I can no longer use "System Settings" under KDE3.5, only under KDE4.? |
| 14:33.43 | vlada | nvidia suggests placing this line: Option "AllowSHMPixmaps" "0" in xorg.conf |
| 14:34.32 | JuJuBee | ALso having trouble with multiple displays using KDE4. Works fine with KDE3, but not 4. |
| 14:34.34 | vlada | when I do that, every composition effect (i.e. transparency) stops working |
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| 14:34.51 | vlada | any suggestion? |
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| 14:35.55 | JuJuBee | ANother ?... In KDE4 when I delete something from the Desktop (GUI), it remains in /home/me/Desktop. Why? |
| 14:36.55 | Rayy | JuJuBee: cause the desktop u see isnt a folder |
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| 14:37.32 | Rayy | JuJuBee: u know the folder view plasma? |
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| 14:39.34 | rindolf | Is bugs.kde.org down? |
| 14:40.04 | Rayy | rindolf: working |
| 14:40.09 | roldyx | hello, where is kde4 new features? |
| 14:40.19 | rindolf | Rayy: WDYM by "working"? |
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| 14:40.40 | roldyx | I have kde4 and i want learn to use it |
| 14:40.42 | Rayy | rindolf: i tried it, its not down for me |
| 14:40.50 | rindolf | Rayy: ah. |
| 14:41.21 | rindolf | Can't connect to the database. |
| 14:41.22 | rindolf | Error: Too many connections |
| 14:41.22 | Rayy | roldyx: are u using kde 4.1? |
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| 14:41.54 | rindolf | I'm trying http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=168776 |
| 14:42.29 | roldyx | Rayy: yes |
| 14:42.35 | Rayy | rindolf: ye, actually its workin pretty slowly |
| 14:43.01 | Rayy | roldyx: tried out the new plasma stuff yet? |
| 14:44.02 | annma | rindolf: did you try a new user? |
| 14:44.03 | roldyx | Rayy: I dont understand you.. I dont speak english.. |
| 14:44.07 | annma | this crash is old stuff |
| 14:44.18 | annma | very old stuff |
| 14:44.44 | vpilo | how do I control with kdesvn-build where the .cmake module files will be installed? my automoc4's cmake files are being installed in /usr/lib64/automoc4/ and the kdelibs cmake can't find them... |
| 14:44.56 | Rayy | roldyx: language? |
| 14:44.57 | annma | try a new user and report on bug report please rindolf |
| 14:45.00 | rindolf | annma: it works as a new user. |
| 14:45.04 | annma | so |
| 14:45.10 | rindolf | annma: but how does it help me? |
| 14:45.11 | annma | report on bug report please |
| 14:45.22 | rindolf | annma: I want my existing user to work. |
| 14:45.28 | annma | it helps you by removing plasma* from config!!! |
| 14:45.41 | roldyx | Rayy: spanish.. but I understand a bit of english |
| 14:45.43 | annma | you have stale config files |
| 14:45.54 | annma | try it and report and close |
| 14:46.07 | rindolf | annma: Plasma should not crash due to bad config files. |
| 14:46.14 | rindolf | annma: it should not crash period. |
| 14:46.16 | annma | it should not but it does |
| 14:46.26 | Rayy | roldyx: i speak french and german, pity no spanish :P |
| 14:46.30 | rindolf | annma: then it's a bug. |
| 14:46.32 | annma | and there's nothing we can do about it |
| 14:46.34 | alediaferia | rindolf: rm $KDEHOME/share/config/plasma* |
| 14:46.40 | roldyx | I have new plasma |
| 14:46.40 | annma | it's too old |
| 14:46.50 | alediaferia | rindolf: and we know it is a bug so please report it to help us solve.. |
| 14:47.08 | annma | alediaferia: he reported it |
| 14:47.12 | roldyx | but i dont know the new features... |
| 14:47.17 | annma | alediaferia: but how can you fix it? |
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| 14:47.47 | annma | ah good it's been triaged |
| 14:47.51 | alediaferia | annma: *we* plasma dev, not just me =) =) |
| 14:47.53 | rindolf | alediaferia: http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=168776 |
| 14:48.40 | alediaferia | ok, thank you very much rindolf |
| 14:48.49 | rindolf | alediaferia: you're welcome. |
| 14:48.58 | annma | alediaferia: it's old stuff |
| 14:49.08 | alediaferia | annma: i see, strange.. :S |
| 14:49.15 | annma | I very much doubt one of us has 4.1 tag |
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| 14:50.06 | rindolf | Trying now. |
| 14:50.40 | roldyx | somebody use kscope? |
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| 14:52.28 | alediaferia | annma: yep, really strange it still happens.. |
| 14:52.44 | annma | still happens? |
| 14:53.04 | alediaferia | i mean in 4.1.1 at rindolf's pc =) |
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| 14:54.31 | annma | first he should install debug packages |
| 14:54.41 | annma | the bt does not tell anything |
| 14:55.43 | annma | might be mandriva mess for a start alediaferia |
| 14:56.02 | alediaferia | oh sure, it might be of course |
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| 14:56.49 | annma | I already tracked down a few bugs with various distros |
| 14:57.01 | annma | in any case, it's not really important |
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| 14:57.25 | alediaferia | agrees |
| 14:57.48 | annma | does not have a branch full checkout |
| 14:58.07 | alediaferia | too |
| 14:58.17 | JuJuBee | Rayy : not sure what you mean about folder view plasma? |
| 14:59.10 | annma | JuJuBee: the folderview applet |
| 14:59.21 | JuJuBee | no, then I am not aware of it. |
| 14:59.46 | alediaferia | JuJuBee: KDE 4.1? |
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| 15:02.35 | mrxmike | can i somehow give a running application the focus, via a commandline instruction? |
| 15:02.36 | JuJuBee | Don't Think so. |
| 15:02.54 | mrxmike | you said that to me? :o |
| 15:03.04 | JuJuBee | no |
| 15:03.06 | JuJuBee | sry |
| 15:03.29 | JuJuBee | to alediaferia |
| 15:03.45 | mrxmike | not cool me, not cool |
| 15:03.53 | mrxmike | i expect answers |
| 15:03.55 | alediaferia | JuJuBee: you don't know your KDE version? =) |
| 15:03.57 | mrxmike | instantly |
| 15:04.03 | mrxmike | ; ) |
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| 15:04.11 | rindolf | Hi all. |
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| 15:04.16 | mrxmike | me=men |
| 15:04.18 | JuJuBee | Just updated kubuntu but cannot figure out how to find exact version |
| 15:04.27 | theGlooner | hi all |
| 15:04.29 | annma | rindolf: can you install debug packages and post a better backtrace please |
| 15:04.31 | rindolf | annma, alediaferia: OK now I can start Plasma - but I lost a lot of my settings. |
| 15:04.36 | mrxmike | JuJuBee: klik on the K |
| 15:04.43 | rindolf | annma: yes. |
| 15:04.43 | mrxmike | then 'system settings' itll teach ya! |
| 15:04.44 | vpilo | why does cmake always complain "WARNING: you are using the obsolete 'PKGCONFIG' macro use FindPkgConfig" when building kde? is it my fault, or yours? ;) |
| 15:04.52 | alediaferia | anyKDEapp(e.g Dolphin) -> help -> about KDE (will show the version) |
| 15:04.53 | rindolf | annma: which debug packages? |
| 15:04.58 | alediaferia | JuJuBee: ^ |
| 15:05.10 | annma | kdelibs and kdebase |
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| 15:05.17 | rindolf | annma: OK. |
| 15:05.22 | annma | did you ask other mandriva users if they have this crash? |
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| 15:05.53 | annma | did they just make the 4.1.1 rpms? |
| 15:06.04 | rindolf | annma: it happend since 4.1.0 |
| 15:06.07 | theGlooner | Does anyone have a problem with kfontview on Hardy, KDE 4.1? I can't get it to display any characters in the large preview. All that appears is a blank display. TIA. |
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| 15:06.27 | annma | even so |
| 15:06.29 | rindolf | annma: and the fonts are unusually larger here. |
| 15:06.35 | annma | ? |
| 15:06.37 | annma | what fonts |
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| 15:08.18 | annma | rindolf: what fonts exactly? |
| 15:08.23 | JuJuBee | OK, using 4.03 |
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| 15:08.48 | alediaferia | JuJuBee: then you should update to 4.1.1 to have folderview |
| 15:08.51 | mrxmike | can i give a kde program with a certain title the focus easily somehow? :) |
| 15:09.17 | JuJuBee | OK. |
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| 15:10.18 | rindolf | annma: like Monospace 12. |
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| 15:10.34 | rindolf | annma: and DejaVu Sans Mono |
| 15:10.40 | annma | but where? |
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| 15:11.15 | theGlooner | any: personal, systems, etc. The short preview text shows, but nothing on the larger.. |
| 15:11.51 | annma | are you rindolf theGlooner? |
| 15:12.07 | theGlooner | annma: no |
| 15:12.31 | annma | feels disoriented |
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| 15:13.02 | White_Pelican | wazzamatta annma ? |
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| 15:13.06 | rindolf | annma: in Konsole. |
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| 15:13.21 | rindolf | annma: in XChat2. |
| 15:13.40 | theGlooner | annma: I'm talking about kfontview, rindolf is talking about konsole |
| 15:13.58 | annma | rindolf: I don't think konsole saw many changes |
| 15:14.06 | annma | from 4.1.0 to 4.1.1 |
| 15:14.18 | annma | XChat is not a KDE prog |
| 15:14.45 | rindolf | annma: yes, but the fonts here seem larger. |
| 15:14.49 | rindolf | annma: than on KDE-3.5.x |
| 15:15.03 | rindolf | annma: for some reason. |
| 15:15.23 | annma | "seem" is not very serious |
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| 15:16.23 | rindolf | annma: they are larger. |
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| 15:22.21 | theGlooner | I see nothing in the kfontview preview. In searching msgs, I find that only one or two people have had the same problem. |
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| 15:53.15 | xee | hi, I wanted to know the channel for kde development |
| 15:53.41 | annma | #kde-devel |
| 15:53.53 | annma | xee: ^^ |
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| 15:54.42 | xee | ok, thanks :) |
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| 16:01.32 | Half-Left | annma: http://img134.imageshack.us/my.php?image=kbreakoutcoldfm4.png |
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| 16:03.51 | mewshi | nice job on plasma |
| 16:04.04 | annma | Half-Left: nice job! |
| 16:04.09 | mewshi | last night's svn is running, i'd say, about 10-15% better :D |
| 16:04.13 | Half-Left | :) |
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| 16:05.08 | Half-Left | annma: Doing a kds one as well, both of them will be on GNHS |
| 16:05.12 | Half-Left | kids* |
| 16:05.16 | annma | :) |
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| 16:09.49 | xTs | Hi, is there a way to change the status of a bug for a submitter? (Would like to set a bug critical, because it really makes korganizer unusable in a way) |
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| 16:11.01 | gkiagia | xTs: the maintainers should judge that |
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| 16:12.25 | xTs | yeah, well... looks like no maintainer even read the bug report. |
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| 16:12.44 | gkiagia | xTs: bug number? |
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| 16:12.49 | tilya | hello |
| 16:13.18 | tilya | i would use some help with a problem with kde4.1 i came across |
| 16:13.22 | tilya | using gentoo |
| 16:13.30 | xTs | 168115 |
| 16:13.44 | tilya | it concerns kbuildsycoca4 |
| 16:15.27 | tilya | wait a moment please |
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| 16:21.05 | tilya | ok |
| 16:21.54 | tilya | when kde is starting, kbuildsycoca eats up all of my memory, including swap, that makes nearly 2G |
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| 16:23.45 | mewshi | so, is 4.1.1 just an update to 4.1, or is it like a snapshot of a recent svn? o.o |
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| 16:24.12 | gkiagia | mewshi: it is a stable update to 4.1 with bugfixes |
| 16:24.13 | DrEeevil | mewshi: mostly bugfix update afaict |
| 16:24.30 | gkiagia | mewshi: 4.1.6x is the snapshot |
| 16:25.22 | mewshi | alright |
| 16:25.36 | mewshi | so, if I'm running svn, don't bother? |
| 16:26.02 | gkiagia | if you are running trunk, there is no reason to switch to 4.1.1 |
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| 16:26.21 | mewshi | Well, I have 3.5.9 installed, as well as 4.1 and svn |
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| 16:30.15 | rindolf | Hi all. |
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| 16:30.25 | rindolf | I cannot remove a stale System tray by double-clicking it. |
| 16:30.35 | rindolf | It displays windows from all desktops. |
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| 16:30.45 | rindolf | And occupies a lot of screen real estate. |
| 16:30.55 | rindolf | And the double click doesn't work even when I'm in the panel editing mode. |
| 16:31.00 | steve555 | hi everyone! |
| 16:31.05 | gkiagia | mewshi: then update your 4.1.0 to 4.1.1 |
| 16:31.15 | rindolf | Hi steve555 |
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| 16:31.29 | steve555 | Hi rindolf, |
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| 16:31.48 | steve555 | what is the current discussion today? |
| 16:31.52 | Murray_B | Hi! |
| 16:32.03 | rindolf | steve555: I'm trying to remove a task list. |
| 16:32.04 | steve555 | Hi Murry_B |
| 16:32.07 | tilya | my kbuildsycoca problem, of course |
| 16:32.23 | gkiagia | rindolf: the system tray is different from the taskbar and I am not really sure if it is possible to remove widgets by double clicking them |
| 16:32.51 | rindolf | gkiagia: then how can I remove it? |
| 16:33.01 | rindolf | gkiagia: right clicking not double clicking. |
| 16:33.11 | tilya | its really annoying, killing kbuildsycoca from console everytime i log in |
| 16:33.14 | steve555 | Well I didn't know to be honest,since I've just joined the channel,I couldn't see what was talked about earlier. |
| 16:33.15 | rindolf | gkiagia: there doesn't seem to be a way I can remove it. |
| 16:33.58 | tilya | the configuration files are too many, i hoped you would point in the right dorection |
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| 16:34.34 | gkiagia | rindolf: unlock widgets, right click, select "remove this system tray" (but I guess you are talking about the task manager, not the system tray) |
| 16:34.45 | gkiagia | it's the same for all widgets |
| 16:34.48 | rindolf | gkiagia: yes, the task manager. |
| 16:35.18 | gkiagia | tilya: this sounds like a bug, but I have no clue |
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| 16:35.30 | rindolf | gkiagia: thanks - working now. |
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| 16:35.42 | gkiagia | tilya: it is not normal, so I guess you could make a bug report for it |
| 16:35.43 | tilya | gkiagia: it worked fine, but sice yestreday its brokwn |
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| 16:35.58 | gkiagia | did you upgrade anything? |
| 16:35.59 | crookshanks | ktimetracker doesn't seem to want to launch from my kmenu, any ideas? |
| 16:36.04 | crookshanks | it only works if i run it from dbus-launch |
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| 16:37.14 | gkiagia | crookshanks: maybe dbus is not running? |
| 16:37.22 | gkiagia | crookshanks: what kde version do you use? |
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| 16:37.45 | crookshanks | gkiagia: dbus is running |
| 16:37.48 | crookshanks | gkiagia: kde 4.1 |
| 16:38.10 | tilya | gkiagia: ok, ill do tomorrow morning, i just wasnt sure about it |
| 16:38.14 | tilya | thanks |
| 16:38.19 | tilya | bye |
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| 16:38.48 | gkiagia | crookshanks: I can't launch it from kmenu too |
| 16:38.53 | steve555 | Crookshanks,is ktimeticker listed in the k-menu? |
| 16:38.56 | gkiagia | crookshanks: must be a bug in the .desktop file |
| 16:39.18 | crookshanks | steve555: timeticker or timelauncher? |
| 16:39.26 | crookshanks | ktimelauncher is in my kmenu |
| 16:39.58 | crookshanks | gkiagia: ah, perhaps so |
| 16:40.14 | crookshanks | gkiagia: are you running ubuntu? |
| 16:40.42 | gkiagia | crookshanks: debian |
| 16:40.55 | gkiagia | crookshanks: I think I have a workaround |
| 16:41.12 | gkiagia | crookshanks: use kmenueditor, find ktimetracker and in the command line remove the |
| 16:41.14 | steve555 | Well that is either a bug in the .desktop file as gkiagia mentioned earlier,or the command path for that application to launch it is pointing in the wrong direction.That is my suggestion anyway. |
| 16:41.30 | gkiagia | -caption "%c" command |
| 16:41.37 | Rayy | is there any kde tool for webcams? |
| 16:41.41 | Rayy | like cheese for gnome |
| 16:41.47 | crookshanks | gkiagia: you know, i was having other problems with -caption |
| 16:42.02 | crookshanks | gkiagia: konsole wouldn't run correctly with the caption option either |
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| 16:43.01 | gkiagia | konsole runs with -caption here, but it doesn't change the caption at all |
| 16:43.21 | crookshanks | gkiagia: yeah, that was my issue |
| 16:43.29 | crookshanks | and in one case it didn't run at all |
| 16:44.05 | crookshanks | gkiagia: changing the menu fixed it, thanks :) |
| 16:44.43 | gkiagia | interesting, -caption doesn't even work with my apps |
| 16:44.49 | gkiagia | but works with ark |
| 16:44.52 | gkiagia | hm |
| 16:45.01 | gkiagia | that's a bug somewhere, I'll find it |
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| 16:45.07 | crookshanks | is caption a kde option or qt? |
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| 16:45.23 | Kenjiro | good afternoon |
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| 16:45.49 | steve555 | Afternoon Kenjiro |
| 16:45.53 | gkiagia | crookshanks: kde option |
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| 16:46.29 | Kenjiro | guys, about kde 4.1.1, any changes on how to compile it? |
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| 16:47.48 | steve555 | Kenjiro,I don't know if there have been any changes in compiling K.D.E-4.1.1 |
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| 16:48.31 | Kenjiro | I ask that because I have my compile scripts ready for 4.1.0. If there were no changes... it's a matter of 1 or 2 hours and I would have KDE 4.1.1 ready at home ;) |
| 16:49.07 | steve555 | I think you must have a pretty fast rig lol! |
| 16:49.39 | steve555 | Which distribution are you using may I ask? |
| 16:49.49 | Kenjiro | Bluewhite64 |
| 16:50.02 | Kenjiro | at home I have a Core 2 Quad (Q6600) |
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| 16:50.58 | Half-Left | Kenjiro: The same, only bug fix release |
| 16:51.10 | steve555 | That is a fast system! I'm still using my ancient AMD XP 3000+. |
| 16:51.17 | Kenjiro | Half-Left: very nice then :) |
| 16:51.29 | Half-Left | Nice bug fixes :) |
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| 16:51.41 | Kenjiro | steve555: I passed my Athlon XP 2400+ to my dad ;) |
| 16:52.00 | Kenjiro | Half-Left: please, tell me please... hehehehehehe are the global shortcuts working already? :) |
| 16:52.16 | Half-Left | I dont know, dont use them |
| 16:52.19 | steve555 | At least it will be a fast web browsing machine for him lol! |
| 16:52.23 | Kenjiro | hmmmm let's start downloading 4.1.1 then |
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| 16:52.48 | Kenjiro | Half-Left: I'd like to use some shortcuts, like... one to start dolphin |
| 16:52.58 | Half-Left | They fixed the toolbar issue that kept moving |
| 16:52.59 | gkiagia | crookshanks: ktimetracker has a bug. it doesn't accept any kde or qt option |
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| 16:53.45 | crookshanks | gkiagia: only ktimetracker? it seems like that behavior is in other apps as well |
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| 16:55.53 | gkiagia | crookshanks: works fine with other apps. try this: "ark --icon kmail --style plastique --caption "crap" |
| 16:57.24 | crookshanks | gkiagia: that works. konsole doesn't seem to care about --caption though |
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| 16:57.25 | crookshanks | gkiagia: konsole also doesn't use --icon |
| 16:57.32 | gkiagia | crookshanks: seems to be fixed in 4.1.1 https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=168202 |
| 16:57.38 | gkiagia | I'll try konsole |
| 16:57.51 | gkiagia | no it works |
| 16:57.59 | crookshanks | hmm |
| 16:58.02 | crookshanks | doesn't work for me |
| 16:58.16 | crookshanks | gkiagia: what version of konsole? |
| 16:58.25 | Half-Left | plasma, kmail and KHTML got aload of bug fixes in 4.1.1 |
| 16:58.40 | gkiagia | crookshanks: 4.1.0 |
| 16:58.48 | crookshanks | gkiagia: i'm using 4.1.1 |
| 16:58.49 | gkiagia | well, konsole 2.1 |
| 16:58.52 | crookshanks | konsole version 2.1 |
| 16:59.30 | gkiagia | strange, is kdepim also from 4.1.1 ? ktimtracker too? |
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| 17:00.02 | Half-Left | yay, Ark extracing works |
| 17:00.04 | crookshanks | ktimetrackers says it's version is 4.0.0, using kde 4.1.1 |
| 17:00.25 | steve555 | Can I ask if the icons for K.D.E-4.1* are going to be updated/renewed? (for example,amerok,NTFS-Tool etc)I was just wondering,as I've either have a system,or a square-like icon for the ones that are missing> |
| 17:00.27 | crookshanks | wouldn't it depend on ktimetracker's version instead of kde's? |
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| 17:01.07 | Half-Left | steve555: Ask in #oxygen |
| 17:01.08 | titou | is it normal that the systray always crashs under KDE 4.1.1? |
| 17:01.12 | gkiagia | crookshanks: you need to check the packages. dpkg -l ktimetracker |
| 17:01.29 | steve555 | Ah sorry,I didn't know. |
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| 17:01.44 | crookshanks | 4:4.1.1a-0ubuntu1~hardy1~ppa1 |
| 17:01.45 | Half-Left | titou: Nope, dont here |
| 17:01.51 | titou | it's strange.. |
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| 17:02.21 | gkiagia | crookshanks: very strange... let's see if debian has 4.1.1 packages already... |
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| 17:04.52 | kriko | Is there a kde4 midi player? |
| 17:05.00 | crookshanks | gkiagia: i'm off to lunch, i might check in with you later. thanks for your help |
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| 17:05.38 | titou | kriko: kmid ? |
| 17:06.04 | kriko | opensuse doesn't seem to ship it. Is it in kde trunk? |
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| 17:08.01 | gkiagia | I don't think kmid is ported to kde4 |
| 17:08.15 | gkiagia | must be kde3 |
| 17:08.32 | kriko | ah! vlc plays midi |
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| 17:08.36 | kriko | so i'm saved |
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| 17:09.21 | steve555 | Ok guys,I'm going over to the oxygen channel,see you all. |
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| 17:13.57 | roldyx | somebody use kscope? |
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| 17:18.14 | vpilo | Hi, which ~/.kde/ files should I delete to entirely remove all Plasma and also all applets' configuration? |
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| 17:18.52 | jazka | <PROTECTED> |
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| 17:19.42 | vpilo | thanks.. another thing, are you aware of any bug causing panel items to be scrambled within panels? because i'm getting this issue on a vertical panel |
| 17:20.03 | vpilo | (and I couldn't find any bugs on the zilla) |
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| 17:20.46 | jazka | I haven't noticed anything, well, I only use the default panel on the bottom |
| 17:21.15 | vpilo | I've placed that on the right, and it's messing up my applets whenever I login :P |
| 17:21.48 | vpilo | i'll try removing the plasma conf first, and filing a bug if it's not fixed :) |
| 17:21.50 | vpilo | thanks! |
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| 17:27.02 | buntfalke | how to reset the saved window size for a specific application? |
| 17:27.09 | Half-Left | Got to love this Oxygen theme for Firefox |
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| 17:27.29 | buntfalke | it seems like kwin saved the size of firefox and refuses to save a new one. |
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| 17:27.48 | buntfalke | everything close to, but except, maximized is saved fine though |
| 17:28.03 | Half-Left | buntfalke: Right click the top, Configure Window behavior |
| 17:29.20 | buntfalke | and there? |
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| 17:29.39 | Half-Left | Window Specific |
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| 17:29.57 | buntfalke | uff! i dont want to create rule for it |
| 17:30.03 | buntfalke | it worked fine without one before too |
| 17:30.18 | buntfalke | i wont fix a problem that way |
| 17:30.28 | buntfalke | just tell me which config file saves this |
| 17:30.40 | buntfalke | i'll delete the entry, restart firefox, and it'll all be good |
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| 17:31.26 | mrxmike | i would like to activate an application window (via its title), is it possible to do this some how (from the commandline)? |
| 17:31.30 | Half-Left | Good luck then |
| 17:32.08 | buntfalke | Half-Left: do you know where kwin saves such things? |
| 17:32.18 | Half-Left | Nope |
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| 17:32.49 | Half-Left | Though dont expect no KDE apps to behave the same |
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| 17:35.49 | buntfalke | curses about ff |
| 17:36.18 | tuxick | good plan |
| 17:36.29 | tuxick | it looks awful on kde anyway |
| 17:36.54 | Half-Left | Not with the oxygen theme |
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| 17:39.03 | mrxmike | anyone? |
| 17:39.12 | Kenjiro | Half-Left: has the deps list changed from kde 4.1.0 to 4.1.1? |
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| 17:39.43 | buntfalke | tuxick: well. truth is, konqi359 wont render all pages i need, that's the only reason i got ff around |
| 17:39.54 | gkiagia | mrxmike: using qdbus maybe? I don't really know what you want to do but check qdbus |
| 17:40.06 | mrxmike | k thanks |
| 17:40.29 | mrxmike | gkiagia: you mean qtdbus? |
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| 17:40.55 | Half-Left | Kenjiro: No just bug fixes |
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| 17:41.06 | gkiagia | no, I mean qdbus |
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| 17:42.06 | gkiagia | mrxmike: it's not really possible to use the title I think, though. but maybe kwin has a dbus interface for that, I don't know |
| 17:42.32 | mrxmike | gkiagia: imagine you start 'kate' |
| 17:42.47 | mrxmike | then go to the bash shell..... and you would like to give the focus back........... |
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| 17:42.57 | mrxmike | (not by exitting bash/konsole shell) |
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| 17:47.17 | tuxick | buntfalke: ye, there's always some crappy pages around :) |
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| 17:47.19 | buntfalke | someone update the topic? 4.1.1 is out |
| 17:47.25 | Danker | Hi |
| 17:47.30 | tuxick | trail&error javascript, aspx etc |
| 17:47.37 | Danker | What is planned for kde 4.2? |
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| 17:48.01 | buntfalke | tuxick: ack. plus in konqi i use gnash cause it's free, in ff i use flash cause it is more compatible |
| 17:48.22 | Kenjiro | Half-Left: big thanks |
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| 17:48.33 | buntfalke | Danker: flying horses! ;-) searched for roadmaps on the website yet? |
| 17:48.33 | Kenjiro | compile comencing in a few minutes *grin* |
| 17:48.37 | Half-Left | np |
| 17:48.43 | tuxick | buntfalke: you found flash that gnash can actually handle? |
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| 17:49.23 | buntfalke | tuxick: simple menues and youtube without sound |
| 17:49.47 | buntfalke | let's hope they get better. |
| 17:50.09 | Danker | buntfalke: Can you give me link? |
| 17:50.33 | tuxick | flash is almost dead anyway, MS did they old embrace&extend again |
| 17:50.39 | tuxick | moonshine or something |
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| 17:51.28 | buntfalke | Danker: no, i'd have to search too, but i can hardly imagine kde doesnt have a roadmap of some kind, and if there is one, it is public |
| 17:52.46 | buntfalke | Half-Left: got it! i switched ff to fullscreen mode, closed it, and upon restart it was maximized fine again. |
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| 17:53.32 | Half-Left | buntfalke: cool |
| 17:53.32 | buntfalke | Danker: http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules |
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| 17:53.55 | buntfalke | Half-Left: actually kind of ugly, but cool it works again, yes :-) |
| 17:54.07 | Half-Left | Thats the main thing :p |
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| 18:00.04 | gkiagia | mrxmike: use alt+tab to do that |
| 18:00.16 | mrxmike | gkiagia: programmaticly please |
| 18:00.18 | mrxmike | ;D |
| 18:01.08 | gkiagia | crookshanks: ok, the fix for ktimetracker is in trunk, but it's not backported to 4.1.1, that's why it still has the problem. other applications work well, including konsole. I just update to kde 4.1.1 |
| 18:01.25 | gkiagia | mrxmike: why? |
| 18:01.53 | mrxmike | because i need to be able to script it |
| 18:01.54 | mrxmike | :) |
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| 18:03.46 | gkiagia | strange, I have a zombie ksmserver here... no idea how it managed to become a zombie |
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| 18:07.20 | mrxmike | gkiagia: you've been part of my botnet for 2years now |
| 18:07.34 | mrxmike | its sorry you're quitting |
| 18:07.38 | gkiagia | ??? |
| 18:07.46 | mrxmike | ;) |
| 18:07.54 | DrEeevil | haha |
| 18:07.58 | gkiagia | what are you talking about? |
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| 18:08.11 | DrEeevil | mrxmike: don't tell people about it as long as I have a backdoor on your master control machine |
| 18:08.14 | DrEeevil | ;) |
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| 18:08.24 | mrxmike | ;D |
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| 18:19.25 | mr_clark | Any alternative RDP clients for KDE besides krdc? |
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| 18:24.19 | vpilo | Hi.. I'm browsing through bugs.kde.org . Why are there a lot of non-closed but resolved bugs? |
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| 18:25.53 | vpilo | And what can I do to help close them? :P |
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| 18:31.29 | thiago_home | mr_clark: no |
| 18:31.46 | thiago_home | vpilo: resolved = closed |
| 18:32.03 | vpilo | ehm |
| 18:32.45 | vpilo | no they're marked as NEW or UNCONFIRMED |
| 18:32.52 | vpilo | but they've been fixed. |
| 18:32.56 | vpilo | this https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=165274 |
| 18:32.58 | vpilo | for example |
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| 18:34.39 | thiago_home | how do you know it's fixed? |
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| 18:36.16 | vpilo | hmm sorry wrong example, that's not fixed :D |
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| 18:36.23 | thiago_home | thought so |
| 18:36.45 | mr_clark | thiago_home, Okay thanks. KRDC keeps crashing. I'll try submitting a bug. It's driving me up the wall |
| 18:37.02 | vpilo | and obviously I can't seem to find the link to some old KDE2 to KDE4 bugs |
| 18:37.54 | Phantal | I had a problem with kde where the launch menu just showed 'Run Command', 'Lock Session', and 'Logout', so I restarted the OS. After restart, I find the 'windows' key no longer works. If I go into keyboard shortcuts and attempt to assign an action to, say, windows-H, it registers the press of the winkey, but pressing another key while holding winkey registers as just pressing the key alone |
| 18:38.14 | Phantal | I don't know if the two issues are related, but I'm hoping someone recognizes at least one of the two problems and can offer a suggestion |
| 18:39.03 | gkiagia | vpilo: you can join the bugsquad ;) come in #kde-bugs |
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| 18:46.18 | shade | helo |
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| 18:46.58 | shade | im using lenovo laptop, and cant set print screen button to start ksnapshot, any help with that? (its kde 3.5.9) |
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| 18:48.22 | Phantal | if anyone can even offer me a suggestion of how to search for an answer that would be nice. All the threads I find related to kde & the windows key are more along the lines of "how do i get the launch window to open using just the windows key", and the like |
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| 18:49.41 | shade | Phantal: what you want to open? what window? |
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| 18:51.04 | Phantal | shade, I have a shortcut for WIN-R, but it doesn't register the winkey being pressed in tandem with other keys anymore |
| 18:51.35 | Phantal | eg, using the gui tool, if I press the winkey it shows "WIN +" ... as soon as I press, say, R, it just puts "R" in the text field, not "WIN + R" |
| 18:52.24 | shade | hmm |
| 18:52.29 | shade | seen that long ago |
| 18:53.05 | shade | check for xmodmap and mod4 |
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| 18:53.55 | Phantal | shade, where am I checking? |
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| 18:54.37 | shade | type xmodmap on console or in kde center kcontrol -> regional & accessibility -> input actions -> |
| 18:54.59 | shade | ->. presets |
| 18:55.19 | Phantal | k, comes back saying 'up to 3 keys per modifier', and shows rows for: shift, lock, control, and mod1-5 |
| 18:55.21 | shade | and in 3rd tab, dunno how its in english modyfikator keys? |
| 18:55.29 | shade | Phantal: paste it |
| 18:56.11 | Phantal | http://rafb.net/PuSyZw75.html |
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| 18:57.27 | shade | Phantal: The requested document was not found on this server. |
| 18:57.40 | Phantal | gah, missed part of it, sorry |
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| 18:57.56 | Phantal | http://rafb.net/p/PuSyZw75.html |
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| 18:58.03 | daum | anyone ever have a problem where in kmail it has a message it won't let you read, but shows you it in your inbox, and when you click on it nothing happens, it won't let you delete it or hav eit marked as read |
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| 18:59.11 | shade | Phantal: looks ok |
| 19:00.33 | Phantal | shade, and there doesn't seem to be anything runnable named 'mod4' |
| 19:00.36 | shade | Phantal: hmm strange, dont remember how i make it work |
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| 19:01.15 | shade | Phantal: try using xev and look what it will show you |
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| 19:04.17 | Phantal | http://rafb.net/p/bAQQTs45.html |
| 19:04.41 | Phantal | The first block is just pressing & releasing the winkey |
| 19:04.54 | Phantal | the 2nd block is pressing winkey, r, releasing r, releasing winkey |
| 19:05.25 | shade | hmm dunno |
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| 19:06.41 | Phantal | wait a sec |
| 19:07.03 | Phantal | xmodmap shows: mod4 Super_L (0x7f), Hyper_L (0x80) |
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| 19:07.24 | Phantal | but in Keyboard Shortcuts -> Modifier Keys -> X Modifier Mapping, mod4 is blank |
| 19:07.51 | Phantal | and shows win key as mapped to mod4 |
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| 19:09.04 | Phantal | bah |
| 19:09.10 | Phantal | changing the keyboard layout fixed it |
| 19:09.32 | Phantal | shade, thanks for the assistance, I appreciate it |
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| 19:14.42 | crookshanks | is there a way to make desktop widgets only show up on the dashboard? |
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| 19:16.52 | daum | anyone have any suggestions on my kamil problem? |
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| 19:28.34 | asincrono | Hi |
| 19:29.11 | gronslet | daum: haven't experience that myself - are you using dIMAP (disconnected imap, cached imap)? |
| 19:29.11 | asincrono | I'm running ubuntu with kde4.1 and I can't write acents (á é etc.) under kde4.1 applications (konsole, kate, ...) |
| 19:29.54 | asincrono | when I try to write "á" I just get " 'a" |
| 19:29.54 | daum | gronslet, its pop |
| 19:29.54 | daum | gronslet, i found the thing that had all the information |
| 19:29.54 | daum | and removed the file |
| 19:30.00 | gronslet | daum: Ok. Good it worked out |
| 19:30.11 | daum | but now its just showing upa s "No Subject" Unknown Unknown, just need to find out where i can delete it from that view |
| 19:31.24 | daum | gronslet, know where i can find that info? |
| 19:32.18 | gronslet | daum, sorry - I have had the "No subject" unknown unknown problem myself, never found a solution other than changing from dIMAP to pure IMAP |
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| 19:32.41 | gronslet | asincrono: check systemsettings, Regional & Language, Keyboard layout and check if you have non-deadkeys activated |
| 19:32.45 | daum | maybe i'll have to switch to imap |
| 19:32.58 | gronslet | daum, backup first ;9 |
| 19:33.06 | daum | haha |
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| 19:34.03 | asincrono | gronslet: Regional & language is correct, and I have no dead keys in the keyboard layout |
| 19:34.29 | daum | my other quesiton, does anyone recently have this trouble in kde where messages or windows keep blinking(mainly pidgin) even after they have gained focus |
| 19:35.06 | gronslet | daum, I had that problem with Fedora 8, KDE 3.5x and Compiz, never found a solution |
| 19:35.31 | daum | ugh hah |
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| 19:36.50 | gronslet | asincrono, guess you have tried to right-click in konsole, and set the correct character encoding? (hm, that might be unrelated though..) |
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| 19:46.51 | _gunni_ | Is it possible to exclude specific windows from windowswitcher (Alt-Tab ) ? I have a dualview setup and mythtv is running in fullscreen on second monitor, so effects on windowswitching are not useful for that special window. |
| 19:47.31 | _gunni_ | I know really special case, and absolutely not necessary, but maybe there is a way. |
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| 19:48.28 | Le_Vert | hey mates |
| 19:48.40 | Le_Vert | is kamera supposed to work ? |
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| 19:50.08 | Rayy | hi, what package do i need to handle zip? |
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| 19:50.21 | Le_Vert | ark |
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| 19:52.00 | Le_Vert | seems taht typing camera:// in konqueror makes it segfault |
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| 19:52.19 | Le_Vert | camera settings from systemsettings doesn't work either |
| 19:52.20 | Le_Vert | :( |
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| 19:54.24 | Le_Vert | *** glibc detected *** strace: malloc(): memory corruption (fast): 0x0000000001cb77d0 *** |
| 19:54.26 | Le_Vert | errr |
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| 19:54.35 | Le_Vert | that's really weird |
| 19:54.40 | Le_Vert | 2.6.26 kernel issue ? |
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| 19:56.32 | hyper_ch | hmmm, should that worry me if I just get that in the console without doing anything? plasma(24205): Failed to lock file "/var/tmp/kdecache-hyper/kpc/kde-icon-cache.lock" , last result = 1 |
| 19:57.30 | Rayy | Le_Vert: seems that ark is still broken in 4.1.1 |
| 19:57.58 | Le_Vert | my glibc crash is from kamera |
| 19:58.08 | Le_Vert | it's weird because old digikam works fine |
| 20:00.01 | Le_Vert | let's give kde 4.1.1 a try |
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| 20:08.24 | Kenjiro | guys, about bug report https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=165268 |
| 20:08.28 | Kenjiro | I was thinking... |
| 20:09.06 | Kenjiro | why a "kdesu konqueror" (kde 3.5.9) would work on my distro, but a "kdesu dolphin" (kde 4.1.0) doesn't work as expected? |
| 20:09.46 | Kenjiro | sandsmark said I should try a "xhost +localhost" first. Ok that works, but with kde 3.5.9 I didn't need to do that |
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| 20:10.26 | Le_Vert | still the same segfault with kde 4.1.1 |
| 20:10.32 | Le_Vert | I should report that nasty bug |
| 20:10.46 | gkiagia | Kenjiro: if you use xhost then it works? maybe you didn't use kdm back in 3.5.9 ? |
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| 20:11.50 | gkiagia | Kenjiro: xhost does not seem to be related to this bug |
| 20:11.51 | Kenjiro | gkiagia: I did |
| 20:12.11 | Kenjiro | (I did use kdm in 3.5.9) |
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| 20:12.52 | gkiagia | yep, it's a dbus problem |
| 20:13.17 | Kenjiro | I haven't checked the "wish list" for kde 4, but I hope there is a "I wish there will be a button called Admin Mode in systemsettings, just like we had in kde 3" :) |
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| 20:13.41 | gkiagia | there is a bug about that |
| 20:13.58 | gkiagia | but nobody seems to be interested in implementing it :( |
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| 20:15.25 | Kenjiro | great, now I am having problems compiling 4.1.1 hehehehe |
| 20:15.34 | Kenjiro | to be specific, kdewebdev-4.1.1 |
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| 20:17.51 | SidGBF_ | O.o guys, Qt/mac example of Phonon Capabilities, when trying to run, I get a "Phonon::PrivateFactory::createBackend() phonon backend plugin could not be loaded" and in plugins/phonon_backend there's a libphonon_qt7.dylib file |
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| 20:19.04 | shaheed | stupid question: I recently upgraded my kubuntu system to use kde4 (4.1.1 as I write) and all cursor keys in konsole have stopped working |
| 20:19.11 | shaheed | what am I missing? |
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| 20:25.31 | algol | hi |
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| 20:26.05 | Kenjiro | can anybody check this? http://pastebin.com/d5353a501 |
| 20:26.10 | Kenjiro | I was trying to compile kdewebdev |
| 20:27.31 | _gunni_ | Does someone else have some disconnects in kopete on icq network? Maybe its an icq problem, but maybe its the update to kde 4.1.1? |
| 20:27.51 | thiago_home | my ICQ is giving me trouble |
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| 20:29.42 | _gunni_ | Ill ask in #kopete if its known |
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| 20:31.13 | algol | just a question on keep password |
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| 20:31.57 | algol | How to remove a keeped password for a program? |
| 20:32.44 | _gunni_ | algol: Open kwallet, go to passworts, pairs, mark and delete |
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| 20:34.14 | blauzahl-laptop | shaheed: ask in the kubuntu channel, it might be distro related. make a new user and see if it happens tehre --- then you know if its just that one user's configurationt that is messed up or not |
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| 20:34.22 | benji_ | i need help...the icons and everything are rather suddenly quite huge and i dont know why. how do i reset it back to being how it was after i installed it |
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| 20:35.28 | benji_ | hi james |
| 20:35.43 | Jampiter | Hey Ben |
| 20:36.33 | Jampiter | People! Help my brother :p I've just tried to help him for an hour and found out I'm no good at KDE4 :p help him! :p |
| 20:38.53 | _gunni_ | Jampiter: Whos your brother? |
| 20:39.06 | Jampiter | Benji_ |
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| 20:39.11 | Jampiter | :) |
| 20:39.50 | _gunni_ | benji_: Are there lot of configuration you like to keep, or is it possible to remove all kde4 configs ? |
| 20:40.38 | benji_ | nothing i want to keep |
| 20:41.12 | _gunni_ | benji_: So you just tried it the first time, did something wrong, and now want to go to default settings? Which distro are you on? |
| 20:42.06 | benji_ | kubuntu hardy |
| 20:43.50 | _gunni_ | All configuration then is stored in /home/benji/.kde4 if you remove this folder (or better just move it, for backup) and restart kde all should be default. Best way is you do this not from within kde4, as on stopping kde4 it would save some confs |
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| 20:44.31 | benji_ | right ill give that a try...thanks! |
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| 20:51.27 | veritas_ | when's 4.1.1 going to be released? |
| 20:51.37 | _gunni_ | veritas_: Its released already |
| 20:51.46 | veritas_ | oh wait |
| 20:51.47 | veritas_ | today |
| 20:51.47 | veritas_ | lol |
| 20:51.48 | veritas_ | nm |
| 20:52.04 | _gunni_ | For some distros packages are ready, like kubuntu hardy and intrepid |
| 20:52.13 | veritas_ | ah, so if i just update with adept |
| 20:52.15 | veritas_ | everything should be good? |
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| 20:52.25 | ganymede | when is 5.1 going to be released? |
| 20:52.59 | _gunni_ | veritas_: yes, everything but world piece :) |
| 20:53.07 | _gunni_ | ganymede: 5.1 ....? |
| 20:53.10 | veritas_ | kk |
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| 20:54.05 | algol | @_gunni_ thank you! |
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| 20:54.39 | _gunni_ | np |
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| 20:55.38 | kriko | I just updated KDE to 4.1.1 and effects are gone if using OpenGL (Xrender works, but it is slow) |
| 20:55.41 | kriko | known issue? |
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| 20:55.59 | _gunni_ | For me effects still work |
| 20:56.03 | kriko | how can I see why effects are failing? |
| 20:56.18 | kriko | oh pain - Xrender is really slow |
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| 20:59.47 | Hitrix | Hey guys, i'm using openSUSE with KDE4 but now i want to remove kde4 and install kde3.5 - but how to remove kde4 "zypper remove kde4" does not work - anybody out there who can help me ;) |
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| 21:02.15 | Rayy | Hitrix: maybe zypper remove *-kde4 |
| 21:02.22 | Rayy | Hitrix: just a guess |
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| 21:05.16 | Hitrix | (Rayy): mh now he's installing gnome-desktop Oo WHY? :D |
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| 21:05.50 | Hitrix | (Rayy): ahh wtf XD |
| 21:06.58 | coteyr | I am having issue with a service and and kontact, that I am hoping to get an answer to. The service exprorts an ICS file that should be compatable with a "netwrok resource". |
| 21:07.17 | coteyr | the problem is that the times on the events are in UTC |
| 21:07.39 | coteyr | kontact does not seem to change the time to EST instead of UTC |
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| 21:19.04 | chrisinajar | so i have an app that uses Qt to take a screenshot every so often, but it seems that with some video cards it makes X freeze for just a second. Is there a way using KDE's libs to take a screenshot without having it freeze for any amount of time? |
| 21:19.41 | vpilo | is anyone aware of the fact that bugzilla is quite dead? "Error: Too many connections" |
| 21:19.54 | chrisinajar | that's a lot of bugs... |
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| 21:20.35 | vpilo | chrisinajar: did you check ksnapshot's code? |
| 21:20.57 | chrisinajar | no i did not, just the direction i was seeking though, thank you... |
| 21:21.15 | vpilo | chrisinajar: ;) good luck! |
| 21:21.20 | chrisinajar | it's really hard to find any info online related to screenshots, because you just get threads of people posting screenshots of their desktops.... |
| 21:21.52 | vpilo | chrisinajar: hehe true.. you can also find some screenshotting code in kmess and basket |
| 21:22.16 | chrisinajar | i'm really hoping that the kde libs will have something nice in it... |
| 21:22.29 | chrisinajar | because f xdamage so hard |
| 21:22.32 | chrisinajar | soooo hard |
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| 21:22.50 | vpilo | chrisinajar: I don't know about kdelibs, but these apps just use Qt code and they don't seem slow |
| 21:23.22 | chrisinajar | the qt code for screenshotting causes a pause on certain computers... |
| 21:23.28 | vpilo | http://trac.kmess.org/browser/trunk/kmess/src/systemtraywidget.cpp SystemTrayWidget::displayCloseMessage() to name one I know (having ported it) |
| 21:23.39 | chrisinajar | like, less than a second, but when the app does it every so many seconds then it's wicked annoying... |
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| 21:23.51 | vpilo | mmm check if the involved methods are the same |
| 21:25.41 | chrisinajar | vpilo: is uses QPixmap::grabWindow too |
| 21:25.46 | chrisinajar | that's the one that goes slow :-P |
| 21:26.21 | vpilo | chrisinajar: awesome! so I know what to replace if someone notices :P |
| 21:26.32 | chrisinajar | haha, word... |
| 21:26.39 | chrisinajar | it's the only way to do it with Qt... |
| 21:26.45 | chrisinajar | and it's apparently a flaw with X |
| 21:26.57 | chrisinajar | but i don't care, and am still searching for a way to do it... :-P |
| 21:27.04 | vpilo | sorry for not being useful: maybe ksnapshot came with some other way? |
| 21:27.29 | chrisinajar | because i hate when people blame things on X flaws.... X has flaws in EVERYTHING... X is only "working" because it's hack upon hack upon hack... |
| 21:27.39 | chrisinajar | word, i'll take a look at that tomorrow.. |
| 21:27.59 | chrisinajar | worse case, i'll use xdamage to minimize the delay... |
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| 21:28.10 | vpilo | apparently X is a dirty, dirty pile of hacks, as they say, you're right :P |
| 21:28.29 | chrisinajar | it's a like a hack junky |
| 21:28.54 | vpilo | programming with X will do the most damage to _you_ |
| 21:29.02 | chrisinajar | gotta go though, thanks for the help, i'll take a look at ksnapshot and if i bump into you again on the internetz i'll let you know what i found :-P |
| 21:29.09 | vpilo | ok ^^ cya! |
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| 21:32.10 | Xanthaos | Can someone recommend to me a good disk partitioning tool for KDE? |
| 21:32.37 | Rayy | Xanthaos: isnt there kparted? |
| 21:32.45 | Xanthaos | I've got a secondary drive in my linux box, all partitioned to ext3. I want 5 gigs of it partitioned as ntfs... |
| 21:32.47 | Rayy | otherwise fdisk^^ |
| 21:32.48 | flovejah | Xanthaos: qtparted |
| 21:32.59 | Rayy | ah ye, qtparted^^ |
| 21:33.10 | Xanthaos | kparted or qtparted, where are they located within kde 3.5? |
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| 21:34.01 | Xanthaos | I can't find qtparted. |
| 21:34.06 | flovejah | qtparted.sourceforge.net |
| 21:34.37 | Xanthaos | Ahh, will that give me the tar.gz? Is there a way I can install it with say yum or something super simple LOL??? |
| 21:34.44 | Woosta | Is this a useful place to talk about theming? I'm trying to work out how to change the button and button-text colors in kicker |
| 21:35.08 | flovejah | i think you can get dl from there too |
| 21:35.13 | ebdomino | @+ |
| 21:35.14 | Woosta | None of the options in the configuration panel changes them |
| 21:35.18 | flovejah | if you need yumm packages, try with rpmfind |
| 21:35.55 | Xanthaos | is the dl a .tar.gz? If so, I don't know how to work with those, or whatever, I don't know how to do installs other than through yum |
| 21:36.01 | Xanthaos | is a total noob |
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| 21:37.11 | flovejah | did you try to install qtparted using yum? |
| 21:37.39 | Woosta | found it |
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| 21:38.06 | Xanthaos | OMG just the download on the page looks like a nightmare. First this, then this .tar.bz, then this rpm, OMG... Let yum do the work LOL... What is the yum install flovejah? |
| 21:38.45 | flovejah | do you know what distro you are using? |
| 21:38.51 | flovejah | is it fedora? |
| 21:39.31 | Xanthaos | red hat fedora 8 werewolf 2.6.25.14-69.fc8 |
| 21:40.14 | flovejah | you need to add some repositories for qtparted |
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| 21:40.37 | flovejah | like livna and extras, for example |
| 21:40.45 | flovejah | use fedorafaq.org |
| 21:41.09 | Xanthaos | brb |
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| 21:43.06 | Kenjiro | guys, is tidy part of kdewebdev? |
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| 21:43.16 | Kenjiro | I mean, does it come with kdewebdev? |
| 21:44.18 | drantin | htmltidy is a completely seperate project... |
| 21:44.22 | flovejah | Kenjiro: nope |
| 21:44.27 | drantin | and has nothing to do with KDE |
| 21:44.38 | drantin | while some tools might be able to use it.... |
| 21:45.14 | Kenjiro | so that changed from kde 4.1.0 to kde 4.1.1, right? |
| 21:45.32 | drantin | eh...no |
| 21:45.34 | dudeman | hey guys |
| 21:45.38 | Kenjiro | because I don't have tidy installed on my comp, and I got kdewebdev 4.1.0 compiled |
| 21:45.41 | drantin | that would be the fault of your distro... |
| 21:45.44 | dudeman | is there a KDE program for making flow charts? |
| 21:45.50 | dudeman | for programming tasks |
| 21:45.56 | drantin | kivio ? |
| 21:45.59 | drantin | dudeman: ? |
| 21:46.16 | flovejah | dudeman: or umbrello |
| 21:46.18 | dudeman | trying to find it |
| 21:46.20 | dudeman | flovejah, ok |
| 21:46.22 | dudeman | brb |
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| 21:46.42 | Kenjiro | drantin: could be, but then how did I get kdewebdev-4.1.0 to compile here? |
| 21:46.52 | dudeman | downloading now |
| 21:46.54 | drantin | ... it doesn't require it at compile time? |
| 21:47.01 | dudeman | thansk guys |
| 21:47.14 | Kenjiro | drantin: so that is change from kdewebdev 4.1.0 to 4.1.1 ;) |
| 21:47.19 | drantin | nope |
| 21:47.55 | Kenjiro | if it didn't require tidy on 4.1.0 at compile time, but it does require it now (4.1.1), that's a change for me |
| 21:48.16 | drantin | what error is it giving? |
| 21:48.45 | Kenjiro | http://pastebin.com/d5353a501 |
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| 21:50.58 | Kenjiro | I will get tidy then |
| 21:52.20 | drantin | Kenjiro: can you pastebin the configure section as well? |
| 21:52.38 | drantin | the CMakeLists.txt file includes a check for tidy, but afaik, shouldn't require it |
| 21:53.16 | drantin | especially considering it's in an if statement... |
| 21:54.13 | drantin | regardless, htmltidy is something one should use in web development anyway ;) |
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| 21:55.07 | Kenjiro | drantin: ;) |
| 21:56.04 | drantin | http://websvn.kde.org/*checkout*/tags/KDE/4.1.1/kdewebdev/klinkstatus/src/CMakeLists.txt?revision=853753 has LIBTIDY in several if statements actually.. |
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| 21:58.26 | drantin | Kenjiro: as best I can tell, it's an optional portion that somehow got detected during the configure step and it's failing to build because it isn't really there.. |
| 21:58.42 | drantin | I don't know cmake well enough to guess why though... |
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| 22:03.02 | Kenjiro | drantin: no problem |
| 22:03.39 | CuteAlien | hi! In kde 3.5 - is it possible somehow to disable that double-click-topbar behaviour that make windows vanish when the mouse is away? |
| 22:04.12 | drantin | CuteAlien: I believe kcontrol has it labeled something like window behavior |
| 22:04.28 | drantin | it was also selectable on your first run, unless your distro does funny things |
| 22:04.45 | CuteAlien | my first run is years ago... ;) |
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| 22:06.32 | wesley_ | is the devel off juk still going on i didnt saw any changes in kde4.1 |
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| 22:09.26 | CuteAlien | drantin, thanks, I found it |
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| 22:11.22 | _Menda_ | When i delete all objects from trash I still see in the applet that I have X filesm. I'm in KDE 4.1 |
| 22:11.27 | _Menda_ | sorry |
| 22:11.36 | drantin | wesley_: easiest way is to check http://websvn.kde.org/tags/KDE/4.1.1/kdemultimedia/juk/ |
| 22:11.58 | _Menda_ | When i delete all objects from trash I still see in the applet that I have X files, but when I look into the trash it's empty. Does it happen to anybody? I'm in KDE 4.1 |
| 22:12.25 | _Menda_ | it only updates when I restart KDE |
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| 22:16.37 | smp4488 | in kdevelop im getting a /bin/sh: konsole: not found error when trying to compile |
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| 22:25.21 | gkiagia | smp4488: you don't have konsole installed? |
| 22:25.59 | smp4488 | im running ubuntu and gnome |
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| 22:26.06 | gkiagia | _Menda_: what distro? |
| 22:26.15 | _Menda_ | kubuntu 8.04 |
| 22:26.37 | gkiagia | _Menda_: ok, I think this applies to kubuntu too. it's not a kde bug, just a packaging bug |
| 22:27.08 | _Menda_ | gkiagia: oh, packager sucks then :P |
| 22:27.09 | smp4488 | gkiagia: should i install konsole? |
| 22:27.19 | gkiagia | _Menda_: the trash applet uses ktrash to empty the trash, but debian/ubuntu renames ktrash to ktrash4 and thus the kde3 version is called |
| 22:27.31 | gkiagia | _Menda_: I have submitted a patch for it in the debian bugtracker |
| 22:27.36 | gkiagia | smp4488: I think so |
| 22:27.40 | _Menda_ | gkiagia: thanks! |
| 22:27.56 | _Menda_ | i hope they fix it in ubuntu as well |
| 22:28.12 | gkiagia | _Menda_: might be worth also reporting it in ubuntu, if you also have the ktrash4 executable |
| 22:28.52 | smp4488 | gkiagia: that did it but i would rather us my gnome terminal, time to look through config files |
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| 22:29.28 | _Menda_ | gkiagia: menda@mac:~$ locate ktrash |
| 22:29.28 | _Menda_ | /usr/bin/ktrash |
| 22:29.28 | _Menda_ | /usr/lib/kde4/bin/ktrash4 |
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| 22:30.02 | gkiagia | _Menda_: what does ktrash --version say? is it the kde3 version? |
| 22:30.38 | _Menda_ | yes, 3.5.10 |
| 22:31.26 | gkiagia | _Menda_: it would be worth reporting this bug to ubuntu too and link them to the patch here http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=494427 |
| 22:33.51 | _Menda_ | gkiagia: great, i will report this bug to ubuntu guys and link to the patch |
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| 22:44.43 | verbalshadow | i have googled around and havn't seen any yet |
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| 22:48.55 | kr0n05931 | how can I install a plasma theme? |
| 22:49.01 | kr0n05931 | I'm on kde 4.2 |
| 22:49.02 | _Menda_ | gkiagia: i've reported the error: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase-workspace/+bug/264525 |
| 22:49.33 | gkiagia | kr0n05931: plasma themes are to be installed from the plasma configuration dialog via kgethotnewstuff |
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| 22:50.04 | gkiagia | manually installing could be done by extracting the tarball in the correct folder (but I don't know which folder is that) |
| 22:50.11 | gkiagia | _Menda_: ok, thanks |
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| 22:56.35 | MadChopr | ktimetracker is great software for project management... i'm wondering if there is a program like it used more for sports, like say... running 1600 meters, and taking lap times at every 400m? ... but in my case it would be chopping 16 quarts of onions, or large amounts of other vegetables., at every 2 quart, would be my lap time. |
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| 22:57.27 | MadChopr | i would like to keep a log of my speed-times (with splits) and my project, i'm thinking of a plug-in or somethingg for ktimetracker |
| 22:57.38 | MadChopr | i dont' know how to program sadly though. |
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| 22:58.36 | quotemstr | Hrm. |
| 22:58.37 | quotemstr | Interesting problem. |
| 22:58.43 | quotemstr | would just code a one-off program in Python for that. |
| 22:58.54 | Half-Left | Well, if your waiting for Googles Chrom browser for linux, You wont be happy with their EULA :p |
| 22:59.04 | quotemstr | What the hell is the point of Chrome anyway? |
| 22:59.12 | quotemstr | You can get other webkit browsers. |
| 22:59.18 | quotemstr | Chrome isn't customizable. |
| 22:59.19 | gkiagia | MadChopr: if you have a useful idea that is not implemented, report a wish in bugs.kde.org |
| 22:59.39 | MadChopr | gkiagia: hey, awesome thank you. |
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| 23:00.02 | gkiagia | Half-Left: EULA?? no way! |
| 23:00.08 | gkiagia | I thought this was open source |
| 23:00.18 | Half-Left | gkiagia: Oh, you better read it :p |
| 23:00.59 | gkiagia | what about chromium, isn't that open source? |
| 23:01.23 | drantin | http://techblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2008/09/is-this-google-chrome-eula-as.html |
| 23:02.06 | quotemstr | Also, this is why we have the GPL. |
| 23:02.13 | quotemstr | If webkit were GPLed, Chrome would be impossible. |
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| 23:03.05 | drantin | seems to be BSD |
| 23:03.19 | drantin | chromium and webkit that is |
| 23:03.33 | quotemstr | Right. |
| 23:03.41 | quotemstr | I'm arguing that's a bad thing. |
| 23:03.59 | gkiagia | what a term!!! |
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| 23:04.11 | Half-Left | We'll what a turn up |
| 23:04.12 | pinotree | webkit is LGPL, just like KHTML. |
| 23:04.17 | quotemstr | pinotree: Really? Ah. |
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| 23:04.30 | pinotree | and please, #kde-chat for this, not here |
| 23:04.34 | Half-Left | Seems Google desided to change their EULA for Chrome |
| 23:04.40 | Half-Left | oops |
| 23:04.53 | gkiagia | that's right, this is off-topic |
| 23:06.08 | Half-Left | Funny though :p |
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| 23:22.16 | zblach | does kamera integrate with the r5u870 driver? |
| 23:22.36 | kr0n05931 | what is kgetnewhotstuff? |
| 23:23.25 | zblach | pulls new content from kde-look |
| 23:23.35 | kr0n05931 | how do I open it? |
| 23:23.42 | zblach | what version of kde are you using? |
| 23:24.02 | kr0n05931 | 4.1.1 |
| 23:24.41 | zblach | ok, you know when you're adding new plasmoids? |
| 23:24.49 | kr0n05931 | yes |
| 23:25.00 | zblach | the 'install new widgets' drop box? |
| 23:25.07 | kr0n05931 | yes |
| 23:25.09 | zblach | 'download from the internet' |
| 23:25.14 | zblach | that's the kgethotnewstuff interface |
| 23:25.36 | kr0n05931 | ah, thank you :) |
| 23:27.32 | zblach | np |
| 23:27.43 | kr0n05931 | But I still do not understand how to install my plasma theme tarball, as kgetnewhotstuff doesn't seem to show plasma themes... |
| 23:27.55 | kr0n05931 | it only shows 2 plasmoids |
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| 23:28.06 | zblach | yeah, that's what there is so far on kde-look |
| 23:28.13 | zblach | for plasmoids |
| 23:28.27 | kr0n05931 | ah, but how do I install this plasma theme tarball I have? |
| 23:28.44 | zblach | install from file |
| 23:28.48 | zblach | instead of download |
| 23:28.50 | Half-Left | I dont think they would have implemented it yet, 4.1.1 is only bug fixes |
| 23:28.55 | kr0n05931 | ah, thank you very much :) |
| 23:29.20 | gkiagia | right click on the desktop, desktop settings, new theme, install the theme you want |
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| 23:29.52 | kr0n05931 | Thank you very much! :D |
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| 23:31.28 | Kenjiro | Half-Left: would say KDE 4 will be "user ready" when it reaches 4.2.x? |
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| 23:32.00 | Half-Left | Kenjiro: Well my uncle ues 4.1 so |
| 23:32.26 | Half-Left | And he is no computer geek |
| 23:32.35 | Half-Left | uses* |
| 23:32.38 | Kenjiro | Half-Left: yeah, many users are using it, but... there are loads of stuff which should be working by now, right? |
| 23:33.09 | Kenjiro | "by now" I mean "for the end user" |
| 23:33.10 | kr0n05931 | I hope someone makes some new KDE 4.1 icons soon, or atleast adapts crystal project |
| 23:33.11 | Half-Left | I dont think "should be" is the right words to be honest |
| 23:33.40 | Half-Left | Crystal, Ugh, no way |
| 23:33.52 | kr0n05931 | haha, not crystal svg |
| 23:34.00 | Kenjiro | I mean, I think that it will have to have more stuff working so to be considered "end user ready" |
| 23:34.05 | kr0n05931 | I mean crystal project, it is quite up to par with Oxygen |
| 23:34.18 | Half-Left | 4.2 maybe yer |
| 23:34.33 | Kenjiro | :) |
| 23:35.07 | kr0n05931 | hmm |
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| 23:35.18 | Half-Left | kr0n05931: Apart from Crystal icons look to kid like |
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| 23:35.43 | Half-Left | Oxygen looks more mature and modern |
| 23:35.45 | kr0n05931 | kid like? Crystal Project doesn't look like that IMHO |
| 23:36.04 | kr0n05931 | It just looks like someone poured molten plastic on my desktop |
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| 23:36.08 | kr0n05931 | ^_^ |
| 23:36.42 | Half-Left | If you say so :p |
| 23:36.45 | Kenjiro | kr0n05931: something a kid would do *LOL* |
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| 23:37.55 | kr0n05931 | Imagine what KDE 5 will look like lol |
| 23:38.14 | kr0n05931 | mmm.... |
| 23:38.21 | Half-Left | Later |
| 23:38.25 | kr0n05931 | bye |
| 23:38.45 | kr0n05931 | I need to initiate compiz-fusion... |
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| 23:39.33 | kivio | hi |
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| 23:39.50 | kivio | this might be a really stupid question, but how can i install a new theme/style in kde 4.1.1? |
| 23:40.13 | kr0n05931 | as in plasma theme? |
| 23:40.16 | kivio | i found individual theme settings for icons/emotions and stuff, but not for the generel theme |
| 23:40.20 | kivio | yes, a plasma theme |
| 23:40.26 | kr0n05931 | from kde-look.org? |
| 23:40.29 | kivio | yes |
| 23:41.01 | kr0n05931 | right click desktop > desktop settings > new theme |
| 23:41.08 | kr0n05931 | then scroll down to find your theme :) |
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| 23:41.50 | kivio | hehe |
| 23:41.53 | kivio | thx :) |
| 23:42.18 | kr0n05931 | np, thank the people in here who showed me how to do that :) |
| 23:42.20 | Jucato | there's a search box so you won't have to scroll down to find your theme |
| 23:42.54 | kr0n05931 | I rather like the pause feature in kget |
| 23:43.01 | kivio | but from a usability point of view.. don't you think an ordinary user would look for it in "Appearance" in the system settings? |
| 23:43.26 | kr0n05931 | yes, but remember every DE is different ;) |
| 23:43.26 | Kenjiro | kr0n05931: I can't imagine how kde 5 will look like |
| 23:43.29 | kivio | because well.. that's where i thought it would be :) |
| 23:43.49 | kr0n05931 | We are in serious need of some man pages IMHO |
| 23:44.09 | Kenjiro | all I remember is Aaron (2 years ago?) saying KDE 4 would be this and that... |
| 23:44.24 | Kenjiro | I haven't seen that yet :( |
| 23:44.29 | chieh | hello in gnome, there's this thing called gconftoo-2 command which allows us to script the gnome settings in the terminals, is there something similar in KDE? |
| 23:44.59 | kr0n05931 | the .conf files? |
| 23:44.59 | kivio | does one have to restart kde for the theme taking full effect? |
| 23:45.06 | kr0n05931 | hmm |
| 23:45.08 | kr0n05931 | I think so |
| 23:45.10 | kr0n05931 | let me check |
| 23:45.18 | kivio | :) |
| 23:46.00 | Jucato | kivio: no, you shouldn't need to restart kde |
| 23:46.16 | kivio | ok, then the theme sucks, hehe |
| 23:46.27 | Jucato | chieh: try "kwriteconfig" and "kreadconfig" |
| 23:46.28 | kivio | black fonts on a black background.. good game :) |
| 23:46.43 | makkone- | topic is kinda old btw |
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| 23:46.47 | Jucato | plasma themes don't affect the desktop background |
| 23:47.01 | makkone- | 4.1.1 is out |
| 23:48.08 | kivio | Jucato, i was talking about the panel |
| 23:48.10 | chieh | oh ,.. let me see |
| 23:48.22 | kr0n05931 | I didn't find out about kde 4.1.1 until I opened YaST :P |
| 23:48.23 | kivio | on the screenshot on kde-look, the panel was supposed to be grey |
| 23:48.26 | kivio | but it's still black |
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| 23:48.34 | kr0n05931 | hmm |
| 23:48.41 | kr0n05931 | I think he may be using a modified panel |
| 23:49.11 | kivio | i thought the panel is tied with the rest of plasma? |
| 23:49.12 | hays | i guess the kde team is working toward 4.2? |
| 23:49.31 | hays | cool, I didn't realize 4.1 was out |
| 23:49.34 | makkone- | kr0n05931: i use kde.news rss feed ;) |
| 23:49.40 | kr0n05931 | :P |
| 23:50.23 | kivio | oh and: when you click "Apply" in "Desktop settings" the Apply-Button won't go grey |
| 23:50.29 | chieh | are there any tutorials or documentations , i can read to learn how to use it? |
| 23:50.29 | kivio | like the click never happened |
| 23:51.53 | kr0n05931 | kivio: restart KDE to get the panel to turn grey |
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| 23:52.56 | makkone- | does anyone know is kde-team still updating kde3 or are they focused fully on kde4? |
| 23:52.59 | Jucato | kivio, kr0n05931: if it's just a plasma theme, you can restart plasma with the command "kquitapp plasma && plasma" |
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| 23:53.05 | Black_Monkey | hi, can anyone using the 4.1.1 release confirm for me that the bug of titlebar and window not blending properly is gone? (shows up most in inactive windows) |
| 23:53.25 | hays | sorry i run svn here |
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| 23:54.50 | Black_Monkey | makkone-: there's some bugfixes for 3.5, and 3.5.10 was just released, but there'll be no new features |
| 23:55.21 | makkone- | k |
| 23:56.44 | kr0n05931 | how do I make my panel transparent? |
| 23:57.31 | MadChopr | ktimetracker isn't a listed application at bugs.kde.org; is there a way i can put a wish in for this applicaiton? or am i mistaken? |
| 23:58.02 | MadChopr | oh nevermind.. it was on 'show common apps' |
| 23:58.06 | Black_Monkey | anyone with the 4.1.1 release? :/ |
| 23:58.07 | MadChopr | hold on |
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