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| 00:29.48 | SamuraiDio | hi |
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| 00:31.05 | SamuraiDio | i'm trying to burn a DVD that has 4.7GB (as says in the box), but k3b says it has only 4.4 and don't let me burn more than that. how can i verify the real DVD capacity? |
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| 00:35.18 | FloridaGuy | SamuraiDio: the dvd is just like a harddrive..120 gig harddrive is only 119 gig...so the dvd is the same way |
| 00:35.44 | SamuraiDio | ohh |
| 00:35.45 | SamuraiDio | :( |
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| 00:37.23 | SamuraiDio | "keep in mind that DVD capacity of 4.7GB is expressed in salesman's GB, i.e. 10003 and not 10243." |
| 00:37.30 | SamuraiDio | that is the point, right? |
| 00:37.47 | SamuraiDio | 1000^3 and not 1024^3 |
| 00:37.56 | hays_ | ah |
| 00:38.32 | hays_ | gigabytes not gibibytes |
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| 00:38.54 | blauzahl | Rellin: #kde-windows, but if it isn't windows specific, then ask here. |
| 00:39.26 | jafari | helloall, i am having a bit of a issue, i am not sure if you guys are famailiar with kmail |
| 00:40.02 | jafari | i have a linux account at my school, and my professor gives us labs to do from this system.\ |
| 00:40.08 | blauzahl | jafari: 346 people here, somebody probably is. ;) |
| 00:40.17 | jafari | hehehe |
| 00:40.30 | blauzahl | they just might be sleeping now. so ask and be patient. |
| 00:40.39 | jafari | so i am using X forwading via ssh -X |
| 00:40.43 | jafari | to my home box |
| 00:41.00 | jafari | when i firsst initlized kmail, i dint follow the setup |
| 00:41.09 | jafari | didnt* |
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| 00:41.32 | jafari | how can i delete whatever cache info that kmail store so i can start over |
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| 01:11.21 | PDani | hi |
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| 01:11.52 | PDani | how can i set the taskbar to show buttons only for applications on the current workspace? |
| 01:14.05 | Jucato | (KDE 4) right-click -> Task Manager settings |
| 01:16.00 | penguiniator | (KDE3) right click/Task bar settings/ uncheck "Show windows from all desktops" |
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| 01:22.16 | zeta | is gnome terminal, when i add a new tab, the new tabs remembers the working directory of the tab from the previous tab, how i replicate this feature in konsole? |
| 01:22.23 | zeta | in gnome terminal* |
| 01:22.53 | Jucato | that is the case in Konsole KDE 4.1 |
| 01:23.03 | zeta | i don't want to use KDE 4.1 |
| 01:23.09 | zeta | it's not present in KDE 3.5? |
| 01:23.30 | Jucato | not that I know of. KDE 3.5 is closed for new features. |
| 01:23.50 | zeta | sigh =X |
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| 01:54.18 | yxz97 | Hi how can I switch the workspace with shortcuts ? |
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| 01:55.02 | Jucato | yxz97: Ctrl+F1 to F4 |
| 01:55.22 | yxz97 | Jucato, thank you man ! |
| 01:55.25 | Jucato | you can set a shortcut to switch to next/previous desktop too |
| 01:55.57 | yxz97 | how ? |
| 01:57.27 | zeta | yxz97: go to the settings and then shortcuts |
| 01:58.08 | yxz97 | system settings ? |
| 01:58.50 | yxz97 | yea, its fine. |
| 01:58.57 | yxz97 | Thank you very much ! |
| 01:59.04 | yxz97 | Regards, ! Bye :) |
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| 02:19.44 | bfrog | any chance kdevelop 4 is going to come out soon, or with kde 4.2? |
| 02:20.18 | Jucato | you can try asking in #kdevelop |
| 02:20.51 | bfrog | asking now :-) |
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| 02:21.33 | bfrog | cause yeah, I'd love to have a really nice ide. vim is great and all for most projects, at some point though... the project gets too big to remember stuff and intellisense like stuff becomes not just nice... but practically necessary |
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| 03:22.18 | binarycodes_ | :) |
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| 05:06.42 | knox__ | Hie there! I'm trying to install the stable KDE 4.1.1 on Debian, but I don't know how to get started. Any ideas? Thanks. |
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| 05:34.48 | NickPresta | knox_, testing or unstable? |
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| 05:37.29 | Cairo_Tasogare | I've discovered an interesting quirk in 3.5, if your second (and third) monitor have a larger resolution then the primary, panels at the bottom of the screen get screwed up, any ideas on how to fix this? |
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| 05:38.06 | wstephenson | Cairo_Tasogare: no, but what does "screwed up" mean? |
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| 05:39.09 | knox_ | NickPresta, I mean the stable release of KDE 4.1.1 on Debian vr4.0r4 ( Stable version). |
| 05:39.24 | Cairo_Tasogare | wstephenson: they, well, they don't appear quite at the bottom of the screen, and then when they slide off the edge of the screen to hide they remain visible, but unusable. I have to hover my mouse pricisely over the top edge of the panel to fix it. |
| 05:39.47 | NickPresta | knox_, kde 4.1.1 is not available for debian etch (4.0..) as far as I know |
| 05:40.04 | wstephenson | Cairo_Tasogare: i guess there is some hardcoded geometry code in kicker that assumes no monitor is larger than the primary monitor |
| 05:40.06 | Cairo_Tasogare | I assume the problem is that the 2nd and 3rd monitor are at 1680x1050 while the primary is 1200x1024. |
| 05:40.22 | wstephenson | i guess you're on a notebook? |
| 05:40.40 | NickPresta | knox_, you can try: http://pkg-kde.alioth.debian.org/experimental.html but expect breakage, or at least don't complain when something breaks. :) |
| 05:41.33 | Cairo_Tasogare | no, desktop machine with a 17" 4:3 as a primary and two 22" widescreens as second and third. |
| 05:41.49 | knox_ | NickPresta, is it possible to download it and install it offline? |
| 05:42.12 | wstephenson | you could set one of the widescreens as monitor #1, but that would spoil your symmetric desktop. |
| 05:43.36 | wstephenson | Cairo_Tasogare: chances are there is a nasty design limitation in kicker that prevents one from easily fixing it to allow multiple distinct screen sizes, and that's why we have Plasma in KDE 4. |
| 05:44.14 | Cairo_Tasogare | well, If I could, I'd used KDE 4, but I'm still not sure it's ready with the stability I need. |
| 05:45.48 | Cairo_Tasogare | although, I've not tried 4.1 yet. |
| 05:46.10 | NickPresta | knox_, uhh, you could download the various packages in deb form and such but that would take a while and I'm not sure about the result: http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/pool/main/k/ (kdebase, kdebase-runtime, kdebase-workspace) |
| 05:47.02 | NickPresta | Cairo_Tasogare, KDE 4.1.1 feels really awesome. Give it a shot. I've yet to experience a crash... |
| 05:48.12 | Cairo_Tasogare | NickPresta: I'm just looking at the changelog, actually. Nifty stuff. |
| 05:48.37 | knox_ | I'll give a try to both ways and see which can work. Thanks NickPrista! |
| 05:48.46 | NickPresta | knox_, good luck! |
| 05:50.39 | knox_ | Cheers! |
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| 05:53.52 | localh0st | Hello |
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| 06:12.34 | Timberwolf5578 | Is Sidux the best KDE distro? That's what I have heard. |
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| 06:15.38 | Jucato | you're at it again Timberwolf5578. first it was Pardus, now it's Sidux. |
| 06:16.04 | Jucato | "best" is subject, and "best distro" even if it's "best KDE distro" is not for this channel |
| 06:16.16 | Jucato | subjective* |
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| 06:20.53 | Dumble | hello world ! |
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| 06:23.30 | spx2 | hi |
| 06:23.35 | spx2 | how do I install kde4 on my debian ? |
| 06:23.40 | spx2 | I have no idea how |
| 06:23.46 | spx2 | I just fucked up my existing kde |
| 06:23.56 | spx2 | while trying to follow instructions from kde4.debian.net |
| 06:24.02 | spx2 | so any ideas ? |
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| 06:25.26 | o0Chris0o | spx2: thats probably the right website for the instructions to install it, what happen? |
| 06:26.00 | spx2 | o0Chris0o: what happen is now I am on xfce4 because kde broke down ... using aptitude I was able to fuck things up |
| 06:26.06 | spx2 | o0Chris0o: do you have debian ? |
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| 06:26.26 | o0Chris0o | I run kubuntu, form of debian |
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| 06:27.16 | o0Chris0o | you could of restarted x in recovery mode to fix kde |
| 06:28.44 | o0Chris0o | also, best to try #debian as well |
| 06:29.02 | Jucato | or #debian-kde |
| 06:29.18 | Timberwolf5578 | What KDE distros do you all use? |
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| 06:45.25 | cuci | HI folks!every time I update kdm-svn my autologin must be re-set, can I bitch about it with a but or is this a feature? |
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| 07:11.35 | spx2_ | does wikipedia have some problems ? (it's not loading over here) or is it just me ? |
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| 07:14.17 | cuci | spx2: http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/ |
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| 07:16.20 | knox_ | spx2_, I've once experienced this problem, but mine did work later on. Just try reloading the page and see if it's gonna work! |
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| 07:20.12 | yacc | Anyway to quickly switch the fonts of all open Konsole sessions? |
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| 07:23.09 | Rasi | hi |
| 07:23.42 | Rasi | is there an easy way to add the same set of characters at the end of each line in kate? |
| 07:24.21 | drantin | i'd just use sed s/$/text to add/g ... |
| 07:24.30 | drantin | not sure about in kate |
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| 07:32.06 | Jucato | Rasi: Find & Replace in Kate |
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| 07:32.35 | Jucato | set find to regular expression, using ".$", then set replace to use placeholders,"\0whateveryouwant" |
| 07:32.47 | Jucato | (without the quotes) |
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| 07:32.59 | Rasi | but with the "0"? |
| 07:33.08 | Jucato | yes, the \0 is important |
| 07:33.21 | Rasi | is there a documentation that coves those things? |
| 07:33.27 | Rasi | *covers |
| 07:34.49 | Jucato | Rasi: yeah, there seems to be in the Kate handbook |
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| 08:51.05 | jnguy | Hello all. Is there a gui manager for applications that run at startup in kde? |
| 08:51.36 | annma | what KDE version? |
| 08:51.48 | jnguy | 4 |
| 08:51.53 | annma | 4 what? |
| 08:52.02 | annma | look in SystemSettings, Advanced tab |
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| 08:52.23 | annma | look if there's an "Autostart" section |
| 08:53.02 | annma | do you see it? |
| 08:53.11 | jnguy | looking |
| 08:53.22 | jnguy | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:53.50 | annma | Alt-F2 and type systemsettings |
| 08:54.05 | jnguy | I don't see autostart, but I think I'm running the kde3 version of it... |
| 08:54.05 | annma | without spaces |
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| 08:54.07 | ewoerner | how does kde figure out which directories it has to search for .desktop files? |
| 08:54.15 | annma | kde3 version of what? |
| 08:54.26 | jnguy | systemsettings |
| 08:54.29 | annma | ewoerner: explain better your problem |
| 08:54.48 | annma | jnguy: then ask your distro channel, your system is badly installed |
| 08:54.55 | jnguy | thanks. |
| 08:55.10 | ewoerner | annma: which folders does kde search to create the kickoff menu structure? |
| 08:55.13 | annma | I am not sure Autostart manageris in 4.0.x |
| 08:55.31 | annma | ewoerner: why? |
| 08:55.48 | annma | ewoerner: instead of asking such a generic question please tell your problem |
| 08:55.53 | ewoerner | i need to know, i have somebody at the booth who asked for this |
| 08:56.00 | annma | a devel? |
| 08:56.08 | annma | ask him what the problem is |
| 08:56.09 | ewoerner | yes, though not a kde one |
| 08:56.18 | annma | what file is not found? |
| 08:56.30 | annma | isn't Markey at the booth? |
| 08:56.30 | jnguy | err, sorry. checked the install version and its version 4 for systemsettings |
| 08:56.32 | ewoerner | it's not a problem, it's something he wanted to implement |
| 08:56.43 | annma | all standard dirs |
| 08:56.47 | jnguy | Any reason why I wouldn't see it in the advance tab? |
| 08:56.51 | ewoerner | Markey is not available atm |
| 08:56.56 | annma | if he follows free desktop standards |
| 08:57.08 | annma | jnguy: distro and KDE version |
| 08:57.13 | annma | PRECISE the kde version |
| 08:57.17 | jnguy | kubuntu |
| 08:57.19 | jnguy | 4.03 |
| 08:57.23 | jnguy | 4.0.3 |
| 08:57.26 | annma | then upgrade jnguy |
| 08:57.30 | jnguy | ah |
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| 08:57.42 | annma | ewoerner: tell the guy that KDE honors free desktop Desktop standard |
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| 08:58.01 | ewoerner | annma: he knows |
| 08:58.05 | annma | jnguy: or do it manually it's not really hard |
| 08:58.10 | annma | ewoerner: then no problems |
| 08:58.26 | jnguy | annma: Yeah. I'm gonna do that. Didn't know that was the problem. Thanks guys. |
| 08:58.40 | annma | all outside apps are found when they follow FreeDesktopstandards |
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| 09:15.49 | blip- | i can't find the place to remove system tray icon blinking on generic channel message for Konversation |
| 09:16.03 | blip- | its blinking like crazy on every message, not juse those with my nickname |
| 09:16.16 | annma | look in Settings in konversation |
| 09:16.21 | annma | and change your settings |
| 09:16.50 | annma | General tab allows you to change systray settings |
| 09:17.49 | blip- | annma: ah i was looking frantically in the notifications area. thanks |
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| 09:22.27 | slow | hi |
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| 09:25.29 | Sput | ewoerner: XDG_APP_DATA_DIRS, in particular $PREFIX/share/applications and /usr/share/applications, not sure if that includes more |
| 09:26.34 | Sput | ewoerner: haven't looked at the code, but methinks it's basically $XDG_DATA_DIRS/applications for all values set in that env variable |
| 09:26.42 | Sput | (on my system, /usr/kde/svn and /usr) |
| 09:27.22 | Sput | +share :) |
| 09:27.28 | annma | echo $XDG_DATA_DIRS brings nothing on my system |
| 09:27.36 | Sput | that is interesting |
| 09:27.39 | annma | yes |
| 09:27.53 | annma | and my system follows KDE settings |
| 09:28.06 | Sput | I would expect it to be set, such that 3rd party apps are able to find the KDE directories |
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| 09:28.29 | annma | and finds all non KDE apps |
| 09:29.05 | Sput | annma: my startkde sets that var |
| 09:29.05 | annma | inkscape, gimp, gnuplot |
| 09:29.13 | Sput | XDG_DATA_DIRS="`kde4-config --prefix`/share:/usr/share:/usr/local/share" |
| 09:29.19 | annma | not mine, KDE does not need it |
| 09:29.30 | Sput | well, FDO wants to have it though |
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| 09:29.36 | annma | really? |
| 09:29.49 | annma | kickoff works etty well without it |
| 09:29.59 | Sput | I wouldn't know of any other way to reliably find the KDE installation from outside KDE |
| 09:30.22 | Sput | kickoff is a KDE app, of course KDE apps don't need the variable... but 3rd party apps do if they want, for example, to use KDE's icons |
| 09:30.48 | annma | Sput: the question was how KDE kickoff finds .desktop fils |
| 09:30.49 | Sput | http://standards.freedesktop.org/basedir-spec/basedir-spec-0.5.html for reference |
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| 09:31.00 | annma | not how KDE apps are found outside KDE |
| 09:31.03 | Sput | annma: I think KStandardDirs has that hardcoded |
| 09:31.11 | annma | so that's it |
| 09:31.20 | Sput | not that I have looked at the code yet :) |
| 09:31.43 | annma | I answered by saying that KDE finds all .desktop files following FreeDesktop standards |
| 09:31.53 | annma | which is accurate |
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| 09:33.10 | Sput | annma: well, if XDG_DATA_DIRS is set, KDE will use it to find all locations, only if it's not set, it will fall back to the hardcoded default |
| 09:33.24 | annma | Sput: did you ask Gilles about this non-build Digikam by the way? |
| 09:33.30 | Sput | has looked at the code now and sees that KStandardDirs works exactly as sensible and expected |
| 09:33.43 | Sput | annma: no I didn't, I thought you wanted to ask him about that? |
| 09:33.50 | annma | does not use standard dirs most of the time |
| 09:34.11 | annma | he did not come and I did not have time so I suggest you mail him |
| 09:34.30 | annma | I lost the error now |
| 09:34.41 | Sput | once I'm in a position to start testing our builds again, I'll do it if it still doesn't build |
| 09:34.57 | Sput | don't have an up-to-date KDE just now |
| 09:35.06 | annma | hmmm |
| 09:35.14 | annma | who makes these ebuilds then? |
| 09:35.25 | Sput | a couple people maintain them :) |
| 09:35.34 | annma | they are not in the channel? |
| 09:35.37 | Sput | they are |
| 09:35.43 | Sput | they'll sort it out, I guess |
| 09:35.45 | annma | I mean, it'll be easier to talk to them |
| 09:35.50 | annma | hgmmm |
| 09:36.02 | annma | not very responsive, are you? |
| 09:36.19 | Sput | hmm? |
| 09:36.25 | annma | that reminds me this stupid KUbuntu bug report about a broken package |
| 09:36.28 | annma | damn |
| 09:36.44 | annma | we devels have a hard time sometimes |
| 09:36.46 | Sput | depends, we are a handful people, most of them at work right now :) |
| 09:36.50 | Sput | including me |
| 09:37.00 | annma | ok, I leave you to your work |
| 09:37.32 | Sput | and the fact that I am going to switch to a new set of machines in a couple weeks, plus me going to go to a conference next week where I absolutely need a working laptop, keep me from upgrading my running system currently :) |
| 09:38.31 | Sput | annma: btw, is cgilles also the libkdcraw maintainer, or just digikam? |
| 09:38.42 | Sput | because the bug is in libkdcraw, not in digikam |
| 09:39.04 | annma | libkdcraw and kipi plugins as well |
| 09:39.06 | Sput | kk |
| 09:39.07 | annma | I told you taht |
| 09:39.15 | Sput | yeah, wasn't completely sure anymore |
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| 10:38.38 | ewoerner | is there a way in kde 3 to change creator etc. of a pdf file? |
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| 10:43.55 | ewoerner | (or kde4) |
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| 10:44.54 | pinotree | nope, use pdftk |
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| 10:48.12 | frando | Hey. Is there any web bookmarks extension/plugin for konquerori |
| 10:48.16 | frando | n kde4 |
| 10:48.40 | frando | There was one for konqueror in kde3 (del.icio.us sidebar) and I really miss it in konq on kde4 .. |
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| 10:53.34 | Sho_ | frando: I think the del.icio.us plugin is now in extragear since kdeaddons was disolved |
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| 11:02.48 | ewoerner | pinotree: problem is that pdftk is that kind of program you'd propose to some business guy at a booth ;-) |
| 11:03.07 | ewoerner | ...is *not* that kind... |
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| 11:06.05 | frando | Sho_: Do you happen to know where exactly it is? I couldn't find it in base/konq-plugins last time I checked |
| 11:06.19 | frando | extragear/base/konq-plugins, that is |
| 11:08.04 | Sho_ | frando: hm seems to be gone indeed ... lxr.kde.org only finds an Akonadi resource/client for del.icio.us too |
| 11:08.19 | Sho_ | frando: Guess it wasn't ported. Maybe check www.kde-apps.org for a third-party alternative? |
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| 11:42.52 | micettonero | hi, why does Yakuake not follow language settings? |
| 11:43.29 | Sho_ | micettonero: In what way? |
| 11:43.46 | micettonero | console messages are not in italian |
| 11:43.55 | micettonero | when i use apt-get for example |
| 11:44.13 | micettonero | in konsole otherwise apt-get speaks italian |
| 11:44.13 | annma | is it in any other terminal? |
| 11:44.36 | Sho_ | micettonero: It's a kdelibs bug; KCatalog sets LANGUAGE for the process to a wrong value which gets inherited by the shell |
| 11:45.00 | micettonero | can i fix it? |
| 11:45.15 | Sho_ | micettonero: No, it needs to be fixed either in kdelibs, or Yakuake needs to get a workaround added |
| 11:45.29 | micettonero | shall i report it in kdebugs? |
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| 11:46.11 | Sho_ | micettonero: It's already in BKO |
| 11:46.21 | micettonero | ok thanks |
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| 11:47.40 | Sho_ | micettonero: To be specific, what seems to happen is that if KCatalog can't find a translation in the given lang, it sets LANGUAGE to a default value of en_US for gettext. The problem is that this is obviously not what you want to happen in an app process that hosts a shell, which KCatalog wasn't designed with in mind it seems .. |
| 11:48.44 | Sho_ | (unfortunately Yakuake has no Italian translation) |
| 11:49.25 | micettonero | understood |
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| 11:50.08 | jogla | Hello |
| 11:50.20 | jogla | Switching desktops does sometimes take several seconds for me |
| 11:50.26 | jogla | up to 5 |
| 11:50.43 | jogla | even without desktop effects, what can be the reason of this? |
| 11:50.56 | Sho_ | jogla: If you're using KDE 4 and have an nVidia graphics card, read http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=118088 |
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| 11:51.11 | Sho_ | jogla: This sped up desktop switching and the Plasma Dashboard quite a bit for me |
| 11:52.01 | jogla | Ahh, i have one |
| 11:54.38 | jogla | Nice, i have version 173 |
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| 11:55.27 | Sho_ | jogla: The new drivers with all of the new options enabled and those nvidia-settings commands in autostart make KDE 4 quite a bit faster overall |
| 11:55.46 | jogla | Hmm |
| 11:56.02 | jogla | "quite a bit" is maybe not enough for me |
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| 11:56.31 | jogla | Without desktop effects, i just took me 10 seconds to maximize a vim session in konsole |
| 11:56.52 | jogla | yakuake is a real problem too, it just tokes 3 or more seconds to appear |
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| 11:57.21 | Sho_ | jogla: Regarding Konsole specifically it should be said that the nvidia drivers are incredibly incompetent at drawing bitmap fonts. The new drivers help a bit with that, but not enough. But if you use the new drivers (with the new options, etc etc) *and* a scalable font for Konsole, it'll be pretty speedy. |
| 11:57.41 | cuci | I've just updated kopete-svn and now I don't get promted for a password when trying to connect |
| 11:57.50 | Sho_ | jogla: With those drivers, and a scalable font for the terminal, Yakuake/4 is now smooth on nVidia even with OpenGL desktop effects (I develop Yakuake) |
| 11:57.52 | cuci | in console I get kopete(3540)/libkopete Kopete::WalletManager::openWalletInner: still waiting for earlier request |
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| 11:58.24 | cuci | I have un-checked remeber password but the same happens |
| 11:58.26 | jogla | Sho_: Hm.. cool, then i wait for the driver |
| 11:58.27 | cuci | ideas? |
| 11:58.36 | Sho_ | jogla: And with the old drivers, showing the Plasma dashboard took 6-8 seconds for me; with the new ones, it's instantaneous |
| 11:58.38 | jogla | Sho_: Yakuake is really nice! :) |
| 11:59.07 | Sho_ | jogla: Bottom line is that nVidia seems to have fixed some pretty big fuckups in their drivers lately ;) |
| 11:59.28 | Sho_ | jogla: Although unfortunately not the bitmap font one which is why I still can't use Terminus in Konsole/Yakuake/Kate as I used to, sadly .. |
| 12:00.30 | jogla | Sho_: How can i determine if i use a bitmap font? |
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| 12:00.52 | jogla | I'm currently using monospace |
| 12:00.58 | Sho_ | jogla: Can be difficult. Easiest might be googling/checking wikipedia for it |
| 12:01.11 | Sho_ | Monospace is a fontconfig alias, so you can't tell by the name what font it actually comes out as |
| 12:01.32 | Sho_ | (Monospace is a type of font rather than a specific family; monospace = all chars have the same width) |
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| 12:02.05 | Sho_ | DejaVu Sans Mono or Bitstream Sans Mono would be scalable monospace fonts that should be installed on most Linux desktop systems |
| 12:02.27 | Machtin | hey guys.. i got a question concerning ktorrent: Can i watch the average swarm speed anywhere? |
| 12:02.37 | Machtin | cause i can only find my own average download-speed |
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| 12:03.02 | Sho_ | Machtin: If there is I haven't seen it yet myself |
| 12:03.19 | Machtin | hm, i see. |
| 12:03.30 | jogla | Hmm.. it looks exacly like DejaVu Sans Mono |
| 12:03.52 | Sho_ | jogla: Then "Monospace" is probably aliasing to DejaVu Sans Mono |
| 12:04.02 | jogla | Yes |
| 12:04.17 | jogla | Do you know if DejaVu Sans Mono is a bitmap font? |
| 12:04.34 | Sho_ | jogla: It's a scalable font, so it should be fine and speedy with the new drivers |
| 12:04.43 | jogla | Ahh, perfect |
| 12:04.44 | Sho_ | (and the options, and the autostart commands, .. ;) |
| 12:04.55 | jogla | It's really a mess at the moment |
| 12:05.28 | jogla | Do you know something about the nvidia quattro cards as well? |
| 12:05.36 | Sho_ | jogla: Qt 4 / KDE 4 uses a whole bunch of advanced graphics operations that the nVidia drivers used to be very poor at up until those new ones, plus some other bugs they had to fix |
| 12:05.36 | jogla | It seems that they have additional issues |
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| 12:06.13 | Sho_ | jogla: I have a rough overview of them, but no practical experience running KDE 4 on them, no. I have a 8800 GTX atm. |
| 12:06.44 | jogla | Hmm.. i'll see |
| 12:06.45 | jogla | Thank you |
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| 12:07.52 | micettonero | hi, i'm using ubuntu and i installed kde4 from kubuntu repositories. How can i totally remove GNOME? |
| 12:08.31 | Jucato | micettonero: please ask in #kubuntu or #ubuntu |
| 12:08.33 | annma | I guess you should ask in #kubuntu |
| 12:08.41 | micettonero | ok thanks |
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| 12:10.50 | micettonero | on my kde4 sudo doesn't work well |
| 12:11.09 | micettonero | if i try to start kwrite with sudo it gives me command not found |
| 12:11.16 | micettonero | it doesn't happen with sudo gedit |
| 12:11.28 | micettonero | for example |
| 12:11.30 | Jucato | 1. do not use sudo to run GUI apps, specially in *buntus |
| 12:11.38 | Jucato | (Ubuntu does not encourage it even) |
| 12:11.44 | micettonero | neither kdesudo works |
| 12:11.45 | Jucato | 2. use kdesu or in Kubuntu's case, kdesudo |
| 12:11.58 | Jucato | then you'll have to ask #kubuntu or #kubuntu-kde4 about that |
| 12:12.29 | Jucato | but do not use sudo for gui apps (Gnome/Ubuntu uses gksu/gksudo) |
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| 12:25.48 | tiny | Hi! How do one rescan application launcher when new programs are installed? |
| 12:25.53 | tiny | does* |
| 12:26.00 | tiny | so app icons show up? |
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| 12:27.33 | sandsmark | tiny: run kbuildsycoca4 |
| 12:27.41 | sandsmark | (or just kbuildsycoca) |
| 12:28.55 | tiny | well I guess some apps just don't show up |
| 12:28.58 | tiny | urxvt |
| 12:29.19 | sandsmark | if it doesn't have a .desktop file that describes it, kde won't know what/where/how to show it |
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| 12:34.40 | tiny | ok, another question, how do I add my own custom keyboard shortcuts to kde? |
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| 12:37.19 | marco | what is ? |
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| 13:00.02 | tiny | How is it called that grayed thingie with minimized app icons usually in the lower right corner just before the clock and recently plugged devices icon? Oh and how do I configure it? |
| 13:00.37 | tiny | That is what apps are started at startup. I don't want a gray "network manager" icon in there. |
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| 13:09.56 | Moult | anybody using blender on kde 4.1 with desktop effects enabled? |
| 13:10.27 | Sho_ | Moult: well, I use LightWave, but I have Blender here, yes |
| 13:11.11 | Moult | Sho_: can you try run blender? i seem to have flickering of windows and menus |
| 13:11.44 | Sho_ | Moult: Seems fine here, using kwin from KDE trunk with KDE 4.1.1 on an nVidia G80 with 177.76 |
| 13:12.27 | Moult | Sho_: hmm, any ideas what could be causing this weird behavior? |
| 13:12.58 | Sho_ | Moult: Compositing problems are usually driver-related, so I'd recommend into getting the latest X/Mesa/drivers |
| 13:13.03 | Sho_ | *looking into |
| 13:13.19 | Moult | Sho_: hmm yes, it only urghs up when i turn on desktop effects |
| 13:14.35 | Sho_ | Moult: Accelerated indirect rendering as when having OpenGL windows along with an OpenGL compositing manager (aka Desktop Effects) is an especially mature codepath in many drivers |
| 13:14.41 | Sho_ | err |
| 13:14.43 | Sho_ | immature. |
| 13:14.45 | Sho_ | _immature_ |
| 13:14.47 | Sho_ | :) |
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| 13:26.00 | sebas | Moult: also, ALT+SHIFT+F12 disables the effects temporarily |
| 13:27.26 | Sho_ | kwin from trunk also has the added trick of generally disabling compositing for fullscreen windows, which avoids the accelerated indirect "pitfall" for games and the like |
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| 13:32.03 | kalib | hi everyone... |
| 13:32.18 | kalib | how can i edit my kdm wallpaper?? i mean..in my kde4.. any idea?? |
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| 13:34.24 | sandsmark | kalib: run «kdesu kdesu kcmshell4 kdm» |
| 13:34.41 | Jucato | too much kdesu :) |
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| 13:34.58 | sandsmark | oh, yeah =p |
| 13:35.01 | sandsmark | drop the first one |
| 13:35.18 | kalib | what will happen with this command? |
| 13:35.28 | sandsmark | kalib: it will show you the kdm configuration panel |
| 13:35.42 | Jucato | sandsmark: kdm uses a theme by default, so it would take some extra steps, involving either disabling the theme and using the default login or editing the theme |
| 13:35.55 | sandsmark | Jucato: it can all be done from that dialog, can't it? |
| 13:36.14 | Moult | sebas: wow! thank you! |
| 13:36.16 | Jucato | nope |
| 13:36.21 | sandsmark | I can here |
| 13:36.31 | sandsmark | (though the norwegian translation is horrible) |
| 13:36.42 | sandsmark | I just disable theming, and then set a background |
| 13:37.00 | Sho_ | but you can't edit the theme, which was one of the things Jucato listed |
| 13:37.06 | Jucato | ;) |
| 13:37.20 | sandsmark | meh =p |
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| 13:37.56 | kalib | sandsmark, Jucato how can i edit a theme? i just wanna put the arch linux logo on the default wallpaper theme |
| 13:38.02 | Jucato | *cough* |
| 13:38.09 | Jucato | your customer sandsmark :) |
| 13:38.19 | sandsmark | Jucato: same on all distros =p |
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| 13:39.26 | Jucato | sandsmark: yeah I just wanna give him to you :) |
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| 13:39.44 | sandsmark | kalib: look in /usr/share/apps/kdm/themes/ |
| 13:39.53 | sandsmark | Jucato: =D |
| 13:40.13 | Jucato | you might just want to see if there's a kdm theme in kde-look for that. because you'll have to edit an XML file to make changes |
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| 13:40.21 | Jucato | (or replace the background completely) |
| 13:40.39 | sandsmark | just gimp/krita the bg-image and chop on the arch logo? =) |
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| 13:41.35 | sandsmark | kalib: also look here: http://kde-look.org/index.php?xcontentmode=40&PHPSESSID=e31d30c675eab7511bd07838884e5fbf |
| 13:41.53 | tech9iner | moin all.... |
| 13:41.59 | tech9iner | just me?.. or didnt thumbnails viewed in konqi used to update when rotated?.. seems recently that stopped.. once one rotates images via konqi alt menu OR via gwenview.. my foggy recall seems convinced konqi thumbs used to likewise rotate upon refresh? |
| 13:42.00 | Jucato | sandsmark: you'll in effect be replacing the wallpaper completely :) |
| 13:42.06 | sandsmark | yes, yes =p |
| 13:42.21 | kalib | thanks guys ;] |
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| 13:42.49 | sandsmark | np =) |
| 13:43.12 | tech9iner | waves @ & pokes pinotree knowing ive been missed ;] |
| 13:43.15 | sandsmark | Jucato: would a tutorial on how to make a kdm login screen go best on techbase or userbase? |
| 13:43.18 | Jucato | thank you so much sandsmark |
| 13:43.28 | Jucato | sandsmark: kde-look ;) |
| 13:43.35 | sandsmark | ;p |
| 13:43.41 | sandsmark | Jucato: thank you too =D |
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| 13:44.49 | Jucato | sandsmark: imho either-or. it's not too technical that they'd need to build KDE from source to do it. but it's not exactly your run-of-the-mill user stuff either. I guess that depends on whether you consider making themes, or kdm themes particularly, a development task. :) |
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| 13:54.17 | ohay | is there a kmail channel or should I just ask here? |
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| 13:55.03 | Mirr | ohay: there's #kontact but that's a dev channel |
| 13:55.06 | gkiagia | ohay: here or #kontact |
| 13:55.27 | ohay | I've just switched distributions and wanted to move all my KMail settings and messages |
| 13:56.01 | gkiagia | copy over your ~/.kde/share/apps/kmail and ~/.kde/share/config/kmailrc |
| 13:56.05 | ohay | should I simply copy kmailrc from the .kde folder ? |
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| 13:57.41 | ohay | do these files have absolute paths in them or just ~/ ? I'm asking because I'm using a different user name |
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| 13:58.51 | ohay | I mean the home folders have different names |
| 13:59.07 | kalib | sandsmark, got a problem.. downloaded the file http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/Archgras+NEW+(Archlinux)?content=88114&PHPSESSID=e31d30c675eab7511bd07838884e5fbf |
| 13:59.17 | kalib | i used your command to open the kdm manager... |
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| 13:59.38 | kalib | but when i try to use the buttom "install new theme".. and i point it to the file... |
| 14:00.11 | kalib | it says "it's not a theme package valid " |
| 14:00.19 | sandsmark | hmm |
| 14:00.27 | sandsmark | kalib: it's probably for kdm in kde3 |
| 14:00.53 | kalib | :/ |
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| 14:45.03 | EspadaV8_W | hey, i've set my default shell as zsh, but konsole keep loading bash anyway |
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| 14:45.26 | EspadaV8_W | is there something i need to change to get it to use the default shell? |
| 14:45.39 | EspadaV8_W | (this is in kde 3) |
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| 14:46.13 | gkiagia | edit konsole's settings. at least in kde4, the shell that it opens is defined in settings |
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| 14:51.09 | vjm | hmm, just updated kde (from opensuse) and now I seem to be unable to change wallpapers... |
| 14:51.38 | vjm | anyone else seen anything similar or should I go to complain to #suse? =) |
| 14:51.49 | sandsmark | try #suse =) |
| 14:53.05 | tech9iner | just me?.. or didnt thumbnails viewed in konqi used to update when rotated?.. seems recently that stopped.. once one rotates images via konqi alt menu OR via gwenview.. my foggy recall seems convinced konqi thumbs used to likewise rotate upon refresh? |
| 14:53.17 | tech9iner | *konqueror |
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| 14:54.30 | PaperBear | hello. i've just moved from gnome to kde, and i'm having a couple of issues.... foremost, i cant seem to change window decorations (although I can change panel style and icons okay) |
| 14:54.40 | PaperBear | oh, on kde4, this is |
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| 14:55.23 | Jucato | System Settings -> Appearance -> Window Decorations |
| 14:55.41 | pinotree | right click â window configuration â decorations |
| 14:55.55 | pinotree | (right click, on the window title, that is) |
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| 14:57.21 | PaperBear | pinotree - ah, thanks |
| 14:57.45 | PaperBear | Jucato, - FYI, there is no windows decoration option in settings -> appearance (hence my confusion) |
| 14:58.07 | Jucato | that's unusual... |
| 14:58.29 | Jucato | what distro? |
| 14:58.30 | PaperBear | arch |
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| 14:58.39 | sandsmark | has it |
| 14:58.42 | PaperBear | I have "window" "icon" "other" |
| 14:58.59 | Jucato | oh sorry |
| 14:59.02 | Jucato | "Windows" |
| 14:59.13 | PaperBear | the window option doesnt change the window decorations though |
| 14:59.38 | Jucato | does it have 2 tabs? Window Decoration and Buttons? |
| 14:59.45 | PaperBear | having come from gnome, i do have plenty of gtk themes in there, but there are no qt themes (that I can see) |
| 15:00.06 | Jucato | theming in KDE is a bit different from gnome |
| 15:00.06 | PaperBear | which is probably why they dont affect the window decorations |
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| 15:00.57 | Jucato | well they do, it changes the window decoration. in gnome you're changing the theme of the window decoration (2 slightly different things) |
| 15:01.01 | kdepepo | PaperBear, you could install deKorator to get more window decorations. |
| 15:01.02 | Jucato | (yeah it's confusing) |
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| 15:01.12 | Jucato | PaperBear: http://docs.kde.org/kde3/en/kdebase/userguide/customizing-desktop.html |
| 15:01.25 | Jucato | basic ideas apply to KDE 4 as well |
| 15:02.01 | tech9iner | thinks hmmmm.. am i spoiled to less than 2-3 hour feedback on queries here?.. |
| 15:02.04 | Jucato | but yeah, kdepepo's suggestion of deKorator is one that mimics what gnome does the closest |
| 15:02.38 | PaperBear | I'm not looking to gnomify K particularly.... |
| 15:03.48 | PaperBear | although I must admit, K panels are really irritating me.... having issues with multiple desktops and panels |
| 15:03.52 | Jucato | just the behavior. the lengthy, more technical explanation would be in that page |
| 15:04.29 | tech9iner | pinotree: you know perchance?.. want to verify if konqi has probs or im recalling wrongly.. thanks |
| 15:04.30 | Jucato | right click -> Task Manager Settings -> Show only tasks from current screen? |
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| 15:05.23 | AStorm | hello... I've a major problem grabbing KDE 4 trunk |
| 15:05.32 | AStorm | seems like anonsvn doesn't like long connections |
| 15:06.16 | AStorm | is there some place where I can get a snapshot and update it later? |
| 15:06.17 | PaperBear | Jucato, i mean - getting them to sit where i want, etc - it's painful, and either due to bugs or because Kde4 doesnt like my xorg.conf, weird things happen when i try to resize panels on the second screen. sorry, when i said multiple desktops, i meant multiple monitors. sorry |
| 15:06.39 | Jucato | ah those are always tricky anyway :) |
| 15:07.04 | AStorm | ah, there is... missed it on page :> |
| 15:07.09 | kdepepo | KDE developers cannot afford a second monitor, so they do not know ;) |
| 15:07.54 | tech9iner | gives up this day... guess my question was bit harder than thought lol..... |
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| 15:08.01 | PaperBear | Jucato. I am not extolling the virtues of gnome, nor am i looking for flame... but that is one of the things gnome was always spot-on at - panel configuration. like - why cant i put my icons in groups - why do they have to be left or right aligned, etc? |
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| 15:08.41 | AStorm | yeah, KDE has some bits of DWIM lacking ;> |
| 15:08.46 | Jucato | PaperBear: one reason would be Plasma (desktop and panel) is a start from scratch, so stuff like these get added later. |
| 15:08.49 | AStorm | other than that, it's perfect |
| 15:08.53 | kdepepo | PaperBear, what you mention are known problems that are going to be addressed in future releases for sure. |
| 15:09.01 | Jucato | unlike Gnome 2.x which is at its 24th release :) |
| 15:10.20 | PaperBear | heh- like i said, i'm not looking for a fight, these's lots of you ;) i'll see what dekorator has to offer |
| 15:10.33 | PaperBear | and try not to moan about the other stuff... ;) |
| 15:10.47 | kdepepo | PaperBear, browse kde-look.org for deKorator themes |
| 15:11.16 | Jucato | PaperBear: not fighting. just offering insight as to why things are so in Plasma |
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| 15:12.12 | AStorm | heh, kdebase-svn snapshot is huge, really |
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| 15:12.22 | AStorm | 203 MB tarball... |
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| 15:12.27 | PaperBear | Jucato, oh, i know... to be honest, it's refreshing to be givn a reason, as opposed to the old chestnut of "well, that is a feature" |
| 15:12.42 | AStorm | pity svn doesn't have an option like darcs or git - shallow fetch |
| 15:13.26 | SimAtWork | i want to add a menu option below "cut" so i can cut and link (so cut the files, paste them in new location, but link to the new location from the old one). |
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| 15:13.38 | SimAtWork | any one know if this has been done, and if i can download something to do this |
| 15:13.40 | SimAtWork | or.. how i could do it? |
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| 15:15.21 | yxz97 | Hello there |
| 15:15.49 | yxz97 | I lost my "clock" and "StartButton" in Fedora TaskManager desktop in KDE4 |
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| 15:15.57 | yxz97 | How can I recober it back ? |
| 15:16.03 | yxz97 | recover it back ? |
| 15:17.22 | kdepepo | yxz97, log out to text console, delete /home/yxz97/.kde/share/config/plasma*rc, log into KDE4 again. |
| 15:17.57 | kdepepo | yxz97, this will reset all plasma config to defaults. The harder way would be to edit them. |
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| 15:19.13 | yxz97 | ok |
| 15:19.17 | yxz97 | thanks kdepepo! |
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| 15:24.17 | PaperBear | am i being stupid - how do i install dekorator themes? |
| 15:24.38 | kdepepo | PaperBear, you need to install deKorator first |
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| 15:25.06 | titou | hi |
| 15:26.11 | titou | when i launch kleopatra it immediatly crashs with SIGABRT |
| 15:26.15 | titou | is it a known bug? |
| 15:26.24 | titou | (it's under KDE 4.1.1) |
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| 15:41.16 | gkiagia | titou: doesn't crash here |
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| 15:44.34 | tech9iner | jhcrikey.. since when does kpdf only allow single sessions/files?.. this long with konqueror not refreshing/updating thumbnails after rotating images.. makes me ponder breakage |
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| 15:44.56 | tech9iner | kdebase3-session-3.5.9-104.1 btw |
| 15:45.04 | tech9iner | on opensuse 11 |
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| 15:45.58 | go_beep_yourself | i have found some mp3 albums on my computer that cause amarok to use a lot of cpu and never finish "building collection". if i remove these albums from the scan, everything is fine, but i want to be able to play that music too. i checked file permissions and owners and didnt see anything wrong with that. |
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| 15:46.37 | JPT | are the files playable by amarok ? |
| 15:46.54 | JPT | i know of some kind of mp3 that's unplayable by amarok, but playable by noatun |
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| 15:48.07 | Anarky | Hi ! |
| 15:48.09 | titou | gkiagia: it's very strange! |
| 15:48.22 | titou | it crashs just after reading its configuration file |
| 15:48.25 | openbysource | how to autologin with my registered nick |
| 15:48.31 | openbysource | help plz |
| 15:48.37 | Anarky | I was wondering : how can I reuse kwallet files from another account in this account |
| 15:48.38 | titou | but i don't have kleopatrarc file (since i never succeeed to run it :) |
| 15:49.07 | Anarky | they seem to be binary only and there's no way to "open a file" or such in kwalletmanager |
| 15:50.31 | go_beep_yourself | JPT-> the problem seems to be fixed now after i messed with it for a while. i deleted a few empty folders and changed the names of others that may have been too long. |
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| 15:53.17 | go_beep_yourself | JPT-> nevermind, i was wrong, and yes, the music is playable by amarok. the first time i tried, it wouldnt even load into the playlist. it does now but still causes the "build collection" to freeze and use almost 100% cpu. |
| 15:53.52 | JPT | okay^^ |
| 15:53.56 | JPT | problem solved |
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| 16:04.02 | tech9iner | wow.. getting no feedbacks in here as used to seems.. /me checks calendar for holiday?.. huge tux expo somewhere?.. weird.. |
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| 16:11.54 | Gyuvital | hi, how do I remove the Super key as shortcut for k-menu |
| 16:13.00 | aseigo | Gyuvital: kde3? i believe that one may have actually been hardcoded back in the day *eek* |
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| 16:16.20 | litb | hello all |
| 16:16.24 | litb | if i have composite enabled |
| 16:16.44 | litb | then if i drag some text in firefox |
| 16:16.54 | litb | kwin almost freezes |
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| 16:20.03 | jeroen- | does anyone know how to be able to connect to a kde remote desktop (krdc) with Ubuntu? |
| 16:20.10 | jeroen- | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:20.18 | jeroen- | krdc uses vnc right? |
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| 16:27.15 | AStorm | ehh... upgrading svn repo is *slow*... even though I dl'd the latest daily snapshot |
| 16:27.48 | AStorm | as in, 1 packet in 5 minutes |
| 16:27.52 | AStorm | not nice at all |
| 16:29.43 | bonsaikitten | AStorm: get a real internet connection ;) anonsvn is quite fast here |
| 16:29.50 | bonsaikitten | (haven't checked today though) |
| 16:30.07 | AStorm | it is probable that some route of my ISP is dead |
| 16:30.12 | AStorm | that doesn't happen often |
| 16:30.19 | mondini | quite fast here too, in a 80 kbps connection |
| 16:30.44 | AStorm | I've 512 kbps and... see 0 kbps from that server |
| 16:31.00 | AStorm | it was good early in the morning, dl'd whole kdelibs |
| 16:31.08 | AStorm | and about 30-40% of kdebase |
| 16:31.10 | AStorm | then it died |
| 16:31.20 | AStorm | do they have an autoban of kinds or whatever? |
| 16:31.39 | AStorm | now, that I downloaded daily snapshot, I can't even upgrade it! |
| 16:31.59 | mondini | its a round robin for the servers, I think |
| 16:32.21 | AStorm | so, probably some of these suck :> |
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| 16:33.05 | AStorm | now it connected and is updating fine |
| 16:35.00 | insulina | hello , i have aspell installed but kde programs tell me that cant find it , and to i see if path is correct |
| 16:35.04 | insulina | how do i do this ? |
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| 16:36.38 | Jampiter | Hi |
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| 16:41.43 | AStorm | seems that some server in anonsvn rotation is plainly almost, but not quite, down :) |
| 16:41.58 | yxz97 | After do rm .kde/share/config/plasma* |
| 16:42.25 | yxz97 | I got an nice "window" kinda which shows a Desktop frame at the top |
| 16:42.41 | kdepepo | yxz97, folderview applet |
| 16:42.43 | yxz97 | before I hasn't |
| 16:43.02 | kdepepo | yxz97, it's new as of KDE 4.1, you probably left your 4.0 config. |
| 16:43.46 | yxz97 | kdepepo, what do you mean by "left" ? |
| 16:44.03 | yxz97 | meant |
| 16:44.08 | kdepepo | yxz97, when you upgraded from 4.0 to 4.1, you did not clean your config. |
| 16:44.20 | yxz97 | how I do clean it ? |
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| 16:44.34 | kdepepo | yxz97, you just did, "rm" :) |
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| 16:44.45 | yxz97 | haha ! yea man. |
| 16:45.05 | yxz97 | I need fix this how ? |
| 16:45.07 | kdepepo | yxz97, you could have added that folderview manually, though. |
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| 16:45.15 | yxz97 | Are the KDEPlasma Engineer developer ? |
| 16:45.27 | yxz97 | nope |
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| 16:46.38 | yxz97 | I need reset my KDE4.1 desktop how ? |
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| 16:47.18 | yxz97 | how can I see which version KDE i'm running without kcontrol ? |
| 16:47.29 | kdepepo | yxz97, "kde4-config --version" |
| 16:48.11 | yxz97 | KDE: 4.1.0 |
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| 16:48.28 | yxz97 | Okay and how fix the plasma desktop problem kdepepo ? |
| 16:48.31 | yxz97 | Do you know ? |
| 16:48.48 | kdepepo | yxz97, do you want to get rid of the folder view? |
| 16:49.17 | yxz97 | Nope, I just want the correct configuration |
| 16:49.32 | kdepepo | yxz97, "correct?" |
| 16:49.40 | yxz97 | You told me that I didn't clean the stuff |
| 16:50.04 | yxz97 | So I'm thiking, not sure, I have something wrong ? or wrong ? |
| 16:50.07 | kdepepo | yxz97, when upgrading... |
| 16:50.11 | yxz97 | yes ? |
| 16:50.30 | kdepepo | yxz97, but you told me that you deleted the config now, so it is "clean" now. |
| 16:51.17 | kdepepo | upgrading will not delete the config automatically... that's why you didn't see the folderview applet until now. |
| 16:52.05 | yxz97 | would you like see my desktop ? |
| 16:52.13 | yxz97 | is there any pastebin for images ? |
| 16:52.20 | kdepepo | imagebin.ca |
| 16:53.45 | yxz97 | print screen does not works :S |
| 16:53.52 | yxz97 | I cannot saved a desktop screen shot |
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| 16:54.36 | yxz97 | yours works kdepepo ? |
| 16:55.03 | kdepepo | yxz97, sure, I use KDE 3, it works :) |
| 16:55.11 | yxz97 | ahhh !! |
| 16:55.19 | yxz97 | I won't talk to you more :( |
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| 16:55.39 | yxz97 | I though you was using KDE 4 |
| 16:56.26 | yxz97 | Why many people here if nobody talks ?! |
| 16:56.28 | yxz97 | humm |
| 16:56.30 | kdepepo | Not as my primary desktop... I sometimes log into kde4 to see if it is ready for primetime. |
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| 16:57.45 | yxz97 | primetime ? |
| 16:57.55 | yxz97 | without bugs ? |
| 16:57.59 | yxz97 | haha ! |
| 16:58.06 | yxz97 | is impossible. |
| 16:58.47 | yxz97 | also the minime of xchat does not work in KDE 4 |
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| 17:00.12 | mondini | what do you mean with primetime? |
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| 17:03.38 | kdepepo | ready to replace kde3 for everything I do. |
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| 17:05.31 | mondini | oh, but you could use the kde3 apps |
| 17:06.01 | kdepepo | mondini, it is the desktop that lacks this criteria :) |
| 17:06.19 | kdepepo | in fact, I am using some KDE4 apps on KDE3. |
| 17:07.39 | kdepepo | Nothing beats KoulorPaint :-P |
| 17:08.02 | mondini | ok, but as far as I could see the major problems where with video drivers |
| 17:08.34 | kdepepo | Yep, especially on nvidia... I am using Intel onboard, though. |
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| 17:09.13 | mondini | and multi monitor setup, but I couldn't tell you about that |
| 17:09.31 | mondini | I heard complaints about intel drivers too |
| 17:09.43 | mondini | but at least those are free |
| 17:09.43 | o0Chris0o | has nvidia 8600 gt, having problems |
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| 17:09.56 | kdepepo | XRender works quite smooth, GL is too slow on my old HW |
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| 17:10.33 | mondini | I've got on of the worst atis but it works great |
| 17:10.46 | mondini | it was even blacklisted on compiz |
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| 17:17.55 | blauzahl-laptop | o0Chris0o: grab the *beta* nvidia driver |
| 17:18.46 | blauzahl-laptop | and read the userbase page |
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| 17:19.31 | o0Chris0o | funny thing is, when I try to install it using the hardware manager, it doesn't nothing, then I restart computer, then monitor says cannot display this resolution, optimum resolution is 1280x1024 |
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| 17:20.12 | blauzahl-laptop | hardware manager? |
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| 17:20.35 | blauzahl-laptop | don't you install them via the nvidia install program they come in when you d/l them? |
| 17:20.36 | tampakrap_ | my menus show like this http://linuxteam.cs.teilar.gr/~tampakrap/snapshot1.png i don't remember the correct configuration how to make everything white again? |
| 17:20.59 | blauzahl-laptop | i mean, i guess there are distro versions, but i doubt the latest beta would be in those yet |
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| 17:22.36 | o0Chris0o | 177 is beta right? |
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| 17:23.07 | o0Chris0o | hte latest 4.1 has an option to install them through hardware manager 173 and 177 I tried both |
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| 17:33.13 | mondini | tampakrap: go to settings -> configure amarok -> appearance |
| 17:33.49 | mondini | and there you can change colors |
| 17:34.18 | mondini | or did you change them globally? |
| 17:34.39 | beowulf_ | how to play dvds in totem fedora 9 |
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| 17:35.06 | Jucato | beowulf_: please ask in #fedora |
| 17:35.14 | Jucato | (totem isn't even a KDE app ;) |
| 17:36.29 | beowulf_ | totem is default player for f9 how can i change it with vlc |
| 17:36.49 | Jucato | beowulf_: again, please ask in #fedora |
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| 17:51.06 | Shirakawasuna | does anyone here know if a plasma panel is supposed to be able to both 1) expand to fit contents and 2) still maintain as small of width as possible? |
| 17:51.15 | Shirakawasuna | I've been playing with the little green/blue arrows to no avail |
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| 17:56.23 | marco_ | i would like to add a wish for kde 4 |
| 17:56.41 | marco_ | did someone think about to one click to select a plasma activity? |
| 17:56.50 | Jucato | marco_: the best place to do that would be to file a wish on http://bugs.kde.org |
| 17:57.04 | Jucato | possibly (it may exist already) |
| 17:57.10 | Jucato | there are definitely keyboard shortcuts for it |
| 17:57.44 | marco_ | for example, imagine you have 4 activities and you want to go to the second |
| 17:58.01 | marco_ | you have to select the plasma thing on the top of the screen, press zoom |
| 17:58.04 | Jucato | yeah. there are keyboard shortcuts for next/previous activities. |
| 17:58.07 | marco_ | then again and again |
| 17:58.19 | marco_ | so i thougt about a click on the activity |
| 17:58.28 | marco_ | so just one click to go in it |
| 17:58.33 | marco_ | can you tell me the shortcut? |
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| 17:59.13 | Jucato | hold on |
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| 17:59.28 | zhick | is it normal for konqueror not to have any kind of rss support/akregator-integration? |
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| 17:59.44 | AStorm | these flaky anonsvn servers are annoying me really bad |
| 17:59.57 | AStorm | they drop the connection (almost) after about 20-30 minutes |
| 18:01.17 | Jucato | marco_: the pages seem to be a bit slow today, but you can try http://userbase.kde.org/Plasma and look for the FAQ or http://techbase.kde.org/Projects/Plasma |
| 18:01.18 | Phantal | I installed kde the other day on one of my machines, and in Control Center -> Internet & Network I'm missing the "network settings" module |
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| 18:01.23 | Phantal | Anyone know how to fix this? |
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| 18:01.59 | AStorm | also, about half of anonsvn is down :) |
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| 18:02.49 | Jucato | marco_: try http://techbase.kde.org/Projects/Plasma/FAQ |
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| 18:03.10 | Jucato | marco_: btw http://www.notmart.org/index.php/Software/Tabbed_plasming |
| 18:03.14 | Phantal | as a test I tried running: kcmshell [kdeinit] kcm_knetworkconfmodule from a shell and it does not open anything, but on another machine without this problem, that sequence runs it fine |
| 18:03.19 | Jucato | (look! you have the same name :P) |
| 18:03.33 | Jucato | Phantal: KDE version and distro? |
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| 18:03.42 | marco_ | nope |
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| 18:04.06 | Phantal | Jucato, CentOS 5, looks like KDE 3.5.4-16.el5.centos |
| 18:04.54 | Jucato | Phantal: hm... try checking if you have something called knetworkconf installed. (compare it with the other working machine) |
| 18:04.55 | Phantal | I've installed from this DVD on another machine without running into this, if that helps |
| 18:05.25 | Phantal | Jucato, where should I look? |
| 18:05.33 | Jucato | um.. your distro's packages |
| 18:05.36 | marco_ | find it |
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| 18:05.49 | marco_ | just set in plasma shortcut preference in system setting |
| 18:05.56 | marco_ | now i have to, thanks :) bye |
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| 18:05.59 | mickael9 | Hi |
| 18:06.19 | mickael9 | does anyone know if Kopete supports direct file transfers (with MSN protocol) ? |
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| 18:06.50 | dealer_ | is that possible load movies with subtitles with dragonplayer? |
| 18:07.32 | kW | Hello, is it possible to disable the "auto away" feature of kopete such that, when the screensaver starts, kopete does not go into "away" mode? |
| 18:08.05 | Phantal | Jucato, on one machine there's /usr/share/applications/kde/kcm_knetworkconfmodule.desktop, but on the machine having issues that is missing |
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| 18:09.43 | fm | what is the address of the KDE e.v. to send the expense report to? |
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| 18:18.08 | oget | kW: It was possible in KDE 3.5. I'm sure is is possible in KDE 4 too. Let's see. |
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| 18:18.40 | Phantal | Jucato, and, the correct answer is: install kdeadmin |
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| 18:18.55 | Phantal | Jucato, thanks for the help. Have a good day |
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| 18:19.57 | oget | kW: Settings -> Configure -> Behavior-> Away Settings: Disable altogether, maybe? |
| 18:20.04 | AStorm | ffs... this KDE doesn't want to download |
| 18:20.13 | AStorm | stupid one server in the rotation doesn't like me connecting |
| 18:20.28 | AStorm | so I'm getting timeouts often |
| 18:22.20 | kW | oget: doesn't work for screensaver (it does work for a kopete-internal timeout, however) |
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| 18:22.35 | kW | oget: and I'm working with KDE 3.5 still |
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| 18:24.50 | oget | kW: hmmm. Maybe if you uncheck use auto away and check ".. when detecting activity..." thing, it will make you online again when you come back from screensaver |
| 18:25.11 | oget | kW: but you don't want to be away at all , right |
| 18:25.13 | oget | ? |
| 18:25.19 | kW | oget: yes |
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| 18:26.37 | davi | Who is the one who made the icons for kde 4.1 ? |
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| 18:27.10 | mondini | AStorm: you can set the server that you want with subversion |
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| 18:27.27 | Devo | How do I get the little notifications telling me when people sign on and stuff in Kopete to turn off? |
| 18:27.30 | AStorm | mondini: well... tell me one that works |
| 18:27.36 | AStorm | or a list of anonsvn mirrors |
| 18:27.46 | mondini | hang on |
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| 18:28.36 | oget | kW: I don't see such a feature. You might try your chances in filing a request. |
| 18:28.48 | oget | It is really weird |
| 18:28.56 | oget | maybe it is a bug |
| 18:28.59 | kW | oget: can you confirm this behaviour for you? |
| 18:29.38 | oget | ok let me try. I don't have a screensaver. But I'll activate one. |
| 18:30.13 | mondini | AStorm: http://techbase.kde.org/Getting_Started/Sources/Anonymous_SVN |
| 18:30.19 | mondini | at the bottom |
| 18:30.47 | mondini | I thought there were more than two |
| 18:31.08 | AStorm | one of these is failing |
| 18:31.09 | oget | kW: do you have auto away checked or not? |
| 18:31.58 | oget | kW: and how about the second checkbox (become available after detecting thing) ? |
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| 18:33.10 | AStorm | kde.mneisen.org is rejecting connections |
| 18:33.17 | AStorm | the other one is overloaded |
| 18:33.27 | AStorm | so it's complete failure :> |
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| 18:33.57 | kriko | what is the difference between Desktop / Plain desktop? |
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| 18:34.06 | mondini | thats very strange, I don't have problems even though I'm at the ass of the world |
| 18:34.48 | AStorm | mondini: well, maybe it's my ISP |
| 18:34.50 | AStorm | gah |
| 18:35.08 | AStorm | I'll ask someone if I can bounce off a certain server |
| 18:35.17 | kriko | Correction: what is the difference between Desktop / Plain desktop activity type? |
| 18:35.27 | oget | kW: Having auto away unchecked, my status does not go to "away" , I stayed online when the screensaver popped up. KDE 4.1.1 |
| 18:35.44 | mondini | and if you got the daily snapshots its not that much to download |
| 18:35.46 | kriko | oget: kopete? |
| 18:36.01 | oget | kriko:indeed |
| 18:36.08 | kriko | then ask on #kopete |
| 18:36.09 | AStorm | mondini: yes, I have one |
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| 18:36.30 | oget | kriko: I'm not asking anything. I'm trying to help someone :) |
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| 18:37.07 | oget | kW, yeah I think he's right, try #kopete |
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| 18:38.41 | mondini | AStorm: did you do the "svn revert -R"? |
| 18:38.42 | edgy | Hi, I have a clock in my panel with 24h. I want to set it to 12h, how? |
| 18:38.54 | AStorm | mondini: when? |
| 18:39.04 | AStorm | I didn't do anything like that |
| 18:39.06 | mondini | when you decompress the tars |
| 18:39.09 | AStorm | no, why? |
| 18:39.18 | mondini | its on the readme file |
| 18:39.32 | AStorm | hmmm... well, ok :) |
| 18:39.33 | kW | oget: Thanks :-) |
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| 18:39.41 | mondini | maybe its that |
| 18:39.55 | AStorm | no |
| 18:40.08 | AStorm | that was actually done by subversion on the (unfinished) update |
| 18:40.22 | mondini | ah, ok |
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| 18:41.07 | mondini | then I don't know |
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| 18:59.07 | *** topic/#kde is KDE 4.1.1 is out! See www.kde.org | KDE FAQ: http://docs.kde.org/stable/en/kdebase-runtime/faq/ | Help writing KDE docs: #kde-docs | Don't flood the channel, use http://rafb.net/paste | Distro related questions go in your distro channel | Offtopic in #kde-chat | State your distribution and KDE version when asking questions | Don't delete ~/.kde or ~/.kde4 |
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| 19:06.45 | Shootdown | hi |
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| 19:07.34 | Shootdown | I've configured KsCD to use 'phonon' but doesn't read CD tracks ...without digital output works so I guess the problem is 'phono' |
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| 19:09.08 | blkdragon | will they play in amarok? |
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| 19:09.36 | Shootdown | kaffeine |
| 19:09.54 | Shootdown | i dont know how play CD audio in Amarol |
| 19:10.01 | AStorm | dammit |
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| 19:10.42 | AStorm | latest kde snapshot is broken... |
| 19:11.04 | blkdragon | ck systemsettings/sound and see if you have the xine engine as first on the list, shootdown |
| 19:11.09 | AStorm | svn: Error adding directory 'runtime/nepomuk/services/queryservice/lib': versioned directory already exists |
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| 19:11.58 | blkdragon | don't use shapshot so i'm without a clue, Astorm. sorry |
| 19:12.17 | blkdragon | hammer perhaps? |
| 19:12.18 | AStorm | it's an existing empty directory with .svn in it |
| 19:12.19 | Shootdown | blkdragon: in amarok ? |
| 19:12.19 | AStorm | :/ |
| 19:12.24 | pinotree | AStorm: just rm it |
| 19:12.32 | AStorm | pinotree: rm -r more likely |
| 19:12.54 | blkdragon | Shootdown: no i mean in the KDE systemssettings... personal settings for each user |
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| 19:14.11 | Shootdown | blkdragon: GStreamer |
| 19:14.59 | blkdragon | no other in the list? |
| 19:15.34 | Shootdown | not |
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| 19:17.03 | blkdragon | someone more informed than i might be better to ask, but my upgrade to KDE4.1 made gstreamer the default, i added the xine-phonon package and made it first preference, but that didn't solve my problems with KDE3 apps.... i had to install arts to get that |
| 19:17.22 | Shootdown | aha |
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| 19:18.27 | blkdragon | my gstreamer package was broken from the start and i simply don't use it... |
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| 19:18.37 | blkdragon | never have figured out why |
| 19:18.46 | blkdragon | for me it's a moot point |
| 19:19.08 | Shootdown | ok..thanks a lot :-) |
| 19:19.21 | blkdragon | it's something to try, hope it helps |
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| 19:22.00 | Alumin | is there a way to configure Konsole to never close windows/tabs when the command exits? Like using "--noclose" on the command line, but some kind of setting that automatically is always in effect |
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| 19:34.45 | vpilo | hi, did anyone notice that you can't click anymore in the "new device notifier" plasmoid? |
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| 19:37.09 | wstephenson | vpilo: (in trunk) yeah, known issue, it's being rewritten |
| 19:37.53 | wstephenson | Alumin: how are you starting konsole to make it close on command exit? from an icon? |
| 19:38.26 | Alumin | an icon and a firefox extension |
| 19:38.29 | vpilo | wstephenson: Ok thx :) |
| 19:38.45 | Alumin | here's the other problem, the reason it doesn't seem to be viable to change all the invocations to use the command line argument |
| 19:38.58 | wstephenson | Alumin: i'm pretty sure you can set a flag to make it do that in the .desktop file |
| 19:39.02 | Alumin | in a Konsole window with multiple tabs, only the original tab respects --noclose |
| 19:39.12 | Alumin | (this may be a separate issue) |
| 19:39.44 | Alumin | hmm...how would I go about "invoking" a .desktop file from the command line? |
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| 19:41.04 | wstephenson | Alumin: xdg-open |
| 19:42.30 | Alumin | thanks...that's useful information in and of itself |
| 19:42.49 | wstephenson | Alumin: that invokes ANYTHING ;) |
| 19:43.06 | Alumin | yeah, I was just checking out the manpage :) |
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| 19:46.53 | wstephenson | Alumin: have you found the 'do not close after application exits' checkbox yet? |
| 19:48.29 | AStorm | latest SVN is dead it seems... |
| 19:48.44 | pinotree | ? |
| 19:48.46 | AStorm | make[2]: *** No rules to make `khotkeys/app/org.kde.khotkeys.xml', required by `kmenuedit/khotkeys_interface.cpp'. Stop. |
| 19:49.08 | AStorm | kmenuedit |
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| 19:50.00 | AStorm | maybe I should join the -devel |
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| 19:50.58 | AStorm | hmm, possibly already fixed |
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| 19:52.13 | katastrophe | hm, where can i login without openid on userbase.kde.org? |
| 19:52.20 | katastrophe | i can only find the openid login page |
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| 19:54.47 | pinotree | katastrophe: nowhere, and there won't be |
| 19:55.41 | Alumin | wstephenson: pretty sure I have, but let me check |
| 19:56.20 | katastrophe | thanks pinotree |
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| 19:57.59 | Alumin | I don't seem to have that checkbox...older version? this is Konsole 1.6.6 in KDE 3.5.8 |
| 19:58.13 | Alumin | wouldn't that just correspond to the "--noclose" command line argument anyway? |
| 19:58.14 | wstephenson | Alumin: it's in like kde 2... |
| 19:58.19 | wstephenson | Alumin: probably |
| 19:58.27 | Alumin | hmm...is it in "Configure Konsole"? |
| 19:58.46 | wstephenson | Alumin: right click a .desktop file and look in the Application->Advanced Options section |
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| 20:00.52 | Alumin | right-click...in Konqueror? |
| 20:01.26 | Alumin | oh nm I found it...under Properties |
| 20:02.04 | Alumin | oh I see what you're talking about...that's just for commands that, themselves, need to run in a terminal |
| 20:02.11 | ja1 | Hi! I have had problems with my new install of KDE4 (kubuntu). I want a Desktop widget (that closes all windows and shows the desktop). As I press Add widget, and choose Install from Internet, it goes "Source: ?" , so I suppose I have not the right URLs for the Widget central. Where and what should that URL be? |
| 20:02.14 | Alumin | ie if I were going to make a .desktop file to run a CLI app |
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| 20:03.32 | pinotree | ja1: the ? opens the webpage in a browser |
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| 20:04.02 | ja1 | pinotree: No, it is an dedicated window for Widgets. |
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| 20:04.53 | pinotree | ja1: yes. the "?" next to the "Source:" label (between that and the combobox) opens the selected source in a web browser |
| 20:05.13 | ja1 | piontree: Yes, exactly, it goes inbetween. |
| 20:05.24 | ja1 | And nothing in the combobox |
| 20:05.36 | pinotree | but the ? has nothing to do with that |
| 20:05.40 | ja1 | And no loading indicator running either. |
| 20:05.47 | ja1 | Ok |
| 20:06.00 | astromme | Is there a kdepim irc channel? |
| 20:06.07 | ja1 | Still, nothing loads, nothing to choose. So I fugure I have to enter the URL somewhere else... |
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| 20:06.17 | pinotree | you don't have to |
| 20:06.23 | ja1 | No? |
| 20:06.28 | pinotree | nope |
| 20:06.34 | vpilo | Hmmm.. I want PowerDevil to manage my laptop's power, but it says there's another power manager... How do I discover which one is it so I can disable it? |
| 20:06.45 | vpilo | the gui isn't very informative :P |
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| 20:07.46 | vpilo | ja1: plasma devs told me yesterday that the integration with KDE-Apps.org for that page will be updated for 4.2 |
| 20:08.22 | ja1 | Haha. Ok. Thats me being to early!!! |
| 20:08.31 | ja1 | THAT never happened before. |
| 20:08.39 | astromme | Hmm... if there is no kdepim channel, I'll ask here. Is kdepim opensync working in 4.1? (or in 4.x at all?) |
| 20:08.41 | ja1 | Just upgraded from an ancient Linux version. |
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| 20:09.30 | gkiagia | astromme: there is #kontact |
| 20:09.48 | ja1 | I heard someone said that 4.2 wasnt far away from now. Anyone who know better? |
| 20:10.07 | Sput | ja1: january. |
| 20:10.08 | astromme | gkiagia: thanks |
| 20:10.24 | ja1 | And while Im here. What do you guys recommend for a calender? |
| 20:10.33 | Sput | ja1: korganizer |
| 20:10.41 | mschnee | google :P |
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| 20:11.06 | ja1 | Sput: Ok. I had that in me old version, Is there any new ones around? |
| 20:11.21 | Sput | ja1: sure, it's part of KDE4.1 now |
| 20:11.34 | ja1 | mschnee: google for a calender? Thats strange. |
| 20:11.36 | Sput | so there is a new version evert day :) |
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| 20:11.47 | mschnee | KOrganizer-kde4 is pretty spiffy |
| 20:11.50 | ja1 | Sput: :) |
| 20:12.56 | astromme | ja1: I'm also a fan of google calendar. I only wish that there was 2way sync with korganizer |
| 20:14.06 | ja1 | astromme: That could be cool, actually. Is there no way to keep your korganizer data on the web? |
| 20:15.25 | katastrophe | there is ja1, with some groupware servers |
| 20:15.33 | astromme | or if you have a ssh account somewhere you can keep it there |
| 20:15.58 | astromme | And on any imap server you can store it (IIRC) |
| 20:16.34 | ja1 | Is there any free ssh accounts around the net? I've seen pretty cheap ones, but what about a free one to test. |
| 20:17.05 | ja1 | astromme: How does an imap server work? |
| 20:17.24 | ja1 | (if I may ask without being directed to another forum) |
| 20:17.26 | astromme | It is a more advanced protocol designed for accessing mail |
| 20:17.39 | astromme | it's like a pop server but 2-way |
| 20:17.41 | katastrophe | ja1 you can create a new resource in korganizer if you mean that |
| 20:17.53 | astromme | meaning when you read something, delete something, etc... on your local kontact the changes are recorded on the server |
| 20:18.12 | wstephenson | ja1: type alt-f2, "rfc:3501" if you really want to know the answer to that. |
| 20:18.22 | astromme | So if you view your mail from many locations (for me from my laptop and desktop and webmail) the state is the same for all. |
| 20:19.27 | ja1 | wstephenson: Whow! Never tried the F2+thing. Great! Fanstic. KDE rules. |
| 20:20.05 | ja1 | So many shortcuts I dont know yet. |
| 20:20.14 | wstephenson | ja1: look at Configure Konqueror->Web Shortcuts for more. |
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| 20:21.05 | ja1 | wstephenson: I've seen the list. But never even used 10% of it. |
| 20:21.28 | wstephenson | maybe 12% here ;) |
| 20:21.48 | ja1 | There should be a cue card, that could be on the desktop backgound... :) |
| 20:22.16 | wstephenson | if anyone wants a junior job, a Tips plasmoid would be cool |
| 20:22.42 | Alumin | ja1: freeshell.org |
| 20:22.42 | wstephenson | since most distros disable Kandalf's Tips on first run nowadays |
| 20:23.38 | ja1 | wstephenson: I could _try to_ take on a junior job. If I got some directions and had a bit of feedback n help. I got the time. |
| 20:23.49 | wstephenson | ja1: run ktip |
| 20:24.07 | wstephenson | now imagine the same thing but as a plasmoid, with tips less than 5 years old... |
| 20:24.31 | ja1 | wstephenson: ktip not installed, retrieving it now. |
| 20:25.06 | wstephenson | all the logic is there. and the UI to draw some random text in a plasmoid is in most plasmoids |
| 20:25.22 | ja1 | Hmm, yeah. But these tips they're not searchable. That is a must. |
| 20:25.25 | wstephenson | you'd just have to write a TipsEngine that regularly updates its tip on a timer |
| 20:25.32 | wstephenson | ->strigi |
| 20:25.38 | wstephenson | add kde4, get innovation! |
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| 20:26.20 | wstephenson | so all you would have to do is adapt the tips database to a plasma engine, and copy the code from any other plasmoid to draw it in the applet |
| 20:26.31 | wstephenson | ideal learning kde development project |
| 20:26.34 | ja1 | Ok, this sounds like a great start for me. So I get the ktip source somewhere and start from there. |
| 20:26.44 | ja1 | cvs something? |
| 20:27.19 | ja1 | ktip.com |
| 20:27.26 | ja1 | no |
| 20:28.07 | wstephenson | ja1: it was in kdebase in kde3 |
| 20:28.23 | wstephenson | but i don't have it now in kde4, which means it might have been deleted |
| 20:28.27 | wstephenson | but you can get the kde3 sources |
| 20:28.39 | ja1 | ok. I search. |
| 20:29.08 | astromme | You know, there was someone who mentioned (I think it was a blog regarding nepomuk+strigi indexing) having a plasmoid that mentioned "new things" |
| 20:29.09 | wstephenson | ja1: svn co svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/branches/KDE/3.5/kdebase/ktip |
| 20:29.42 | wstephenson | ja1: also build kde 4 from source if you do not already. |
| 20:29.45 | astromme | So for example, more than tips, it gave a little option to show how to do things that were new. I'm explaining this poorly... lemmy find the post |
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| 20:30.49 | ja1 | wstephenson: No, I need to build KDE4. This will take some time. I check in here tomorrow asking for more direction. You are here tomorrow? |
| 20:32.42 | ja1 | Checked out revision 864885. That mean other cant check out or not? |
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| 20:35.45 | wstephenson | ja1: no, look on techbase or for any other introduction to svn |
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| 20:35.58 | wstephenson | ja1: i will probably be busy but there are guides on techbase.kde.org |
| 20:36.05 | ja1 | wstephenson: Do I get development, TRUNK or Current 4.1 SVN BRANCH? |
| 20:36.23 | ja1 | wstephenson: Ok, catch you another day. |
| 20:36.26 | wstephenson | ja1: trunk probably |
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| 20:48.43 | o0Chris0o | how do I view my desktop like in 3.5? I shouldn't have to create a desktop shortcut |
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| 20:51.37 | AStorm | o0Chris0o: I suggest minimizing all windows :) |
| 20:52.16 | ja1 | oOChrisOo: I was told the Desktop Widget will be back in KDE4.2 |
| 20:52.24 | ja1 | I miss it too. |
| 20:53.07 | astromme | ja1: if you want a view of files/folders on the desktop, add the folderview plasmoid |
| 20:53.16 | ja1 | I suggest keeping Two desktops, one with all your windows, and one clean. Then switch with Ctrl+tab. |
| 20:53.39 | o0Chris0o | ja1: O fogired ot pit |
| 20:53.46 | o0Chris0o | oops |
| 20:53.49 | o0Chris0o | figured it out |
| 20:54.01 | o0Chris0o | have to add a desktop view via widget |
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| 21:21.49 | Zaister_ | Is it possible to configure Dolphin to show "MB" or "GB" in detail smode instead of "MiB" and "GiB"? |
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| 21:23.21 | kdepepo | be happy that it doesn't display "Mebibyte" or "Gibibyte" |
| 21:23.47 | Zaister_ | hm |
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| 21:29.31 | blkdragon | kde4.1: is there a way to minimize the window to tray? can seem to find that option in advanced/special win or app settings. |
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| 21:30.11 | FreshPrince | hi |
| 21:30.23 | FreshPrince | my kde loks boring (kde4) how can i make it look good? |
| 21:30.30 | FreshPrince | :( |
| 21:30.40 | FreshPrince | i tried everything out but it still looks boring for me :P |
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| 21:34.18 | kdepepo | FreshPrince, what is missing? |
| 21:34.46 | FreshPrince | the feeling :P |
| 21:35.12 | kdepepo | FreshPrince, you were talking about the look... But I agree, KDE4 still doesn't "feel" good. |
| 21:35.33 | FreshPrince | well i want to change something.. dont know what.. |
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| 21:35.37 | FreshPrince | it doesnt look good for me |
| 21:35.44 | kdepepo | FreshPrince, tried kde-look.org? |
| 21:35.47 | FreshPrince | yup |
| 21:35.59 | FreshPrince | for me kde4 default settings looks boring |
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| 21:36.29 | kdepepo | FreshPrince, well, if you knew what's missing, we could find a solution... |
| 21:37.19 | kdepepo | but "look" is highly subjective... I like a clean (boring?) look. |
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| 21:38.07 | Walex | Hi, I get strange text effects in the TEXTAREA in Konqueror on some sites (lines joined together, or viceversa double line feed). I also would like to change the default input method and tab expansion *defaults*, not every time. How to do that if possible? |
| 21:38.10 | kdepepo | when things start to look fancy, they can often be annoying... it depends on how well it is implemented |
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| 21:41.10 | ja1 | blkdragon: The Desktop widget you're looking is back in KDE4.2, to be released in january, so I was told. |
| 21:43.06 | blkdragon | different bloke.... sorry not something i know about |
| 21:45.14 | edgy | Hi, how can I set the clock in the panel to show 12h time instead of the current 24h? |
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| 21:49.22 | blkdragon | edgy: in kde4 go to systemsettings/regional-lang... it's like the 4th tab i think |
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| 21:49.59 | juan_ | im running kde4 for the 1st time, how do i set aplication sort cuts (in kde3 i would right click on the aplication in the menu) |
| 21:50.49 | edgy | blkdragon: thanks a lot |
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| 22:34.02 | FreshPrince | how can i resize the panel? |
| 22:34.07 | FreshPrince | i cant find the option |
| 22:34.22 | FreshPrince | to make it biger and smaller |
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| 22:59.01 | astromme | FreshPrince: What version of kde? (4.1, 4.0, 3.5?) |
| 22:59.29 | FreshPrince | already solved :) |
| 22:59.38 | astromme | Sweet |
| 23:04.30 | Radiergummi | anyone know off the top of their heads why pidgin isn't showing up in my kappfinder? |
| 23:07.02 | Radiergummi | or, failing that, can anyone help me tolerate kopete by helping me turn kde's notification sounds on, and turn off auto-reply when away? |
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| 23:08.40 | blkdragon | look in a gnome repository for your distro, Radiergummi |
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| 23:10.39 | Radiergummi | (there's no way to turn off auto-reply when away, is there) |
| 23:11.15 | blkdragon | not sure, i use pidgin.... so kopete features are kinda unknown to me |
| 23:11.33 | katastrophe | hm autoreply? that is strange |
| 23:12.33 | pinotree | wonders since when kopete has auto-reply when away |
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| 23:22.10 | Che-Anarc | Whats avalible for previewing images as thumbnails... I just want to delete, etc... can that somehow be done in konqueror?... the photobook view is not that good. |
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| 23:26.16 | FreshPrince_ | hm |
| 23:26.19 | FreshPrince_ | back again |
| 23:26.30 | FreshPrince_ | how can i save the standart kde4 background |
| 23:26.33 | FreshPrince_ | Blue Curl |
| 23:26.37 | FreshPrince_ | i love it :> |
| 23:27.35 | FreshPrince_ | s/standart/default/ |
| 23:27.38 | FreshPrince_ | sry my bad :> |
| 23:28.29 | FreshPrince_ | i think i got it |
| 23:28.32 | FreshPrince_ | problem solved |
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| 23:42.26 | Radiergummi | katastrophe/pinotree, kopete even auto-replies when i don't enter a message |
| 23:42.29 | Radiergummi | it sends a blank line |
| 23:43.03 | katastrophe | ah... could be the otr plugin? |
| 23:45.30 | Radiergummi | only one plugin checked and it's History |
| 23:45.45 | Radiergummi | this is 0.12.7 |
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| 23:47.26 | katastrophe | hm it really auto-replies to every message, even if you do just nothing? |
| 23:48.07 | Radiergummi | not to every message, but certainly to the first in a conversation, when i'm away |
| 23:48.20 | Radiergummi | if i set away and leave the message blank, it replies with a blank line |
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| 23:50.23 | katastrophe | hm, no idea about that sorry, i could at least test it with you if kopete from 4.1.1 still does this |
| 23:50.43 | Radiergummi | eh, i just figured out pidgin |
| 23:50.57 | Radiergummi | (i'm on gentoo and had to tell it to compile GTK support) |
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| 23:51.06 | katastrophe | ok |
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