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| 00:10.00 | kc8hfi | kde4, kopete only plays a split second of a wav file that I've picked for a notification. |
| 00:10.17 | kc8hfi | is there any place I can go to make it play the entire sound |
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| 00:16.41 | KDesk | hi |
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| 00:19.57 | KDesk | If I set to shutdown my monitor in Personal Settings in KDE 4.1.2 it only goes black with brightness, what can I do to make it realy (automatcly) shutdown? |
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| 00:28.08 | dstambou | is there any reason why "Walk through Desktop List" doesn't show a list at all? IT merely switches to the next desktop |
| 00:28.19 | dstambou | this problem has persisted from kde3, up until kde 4.1.2 here |
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| 00:35.35 | youness | hello |
| 00:36.28 | roguebug | i just switched from kde3 to kde4 and i don't see where i can set the panel to auto-hide. |
| 00:36.31 | roguebug | where do i do that? |
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| 00:37.22 | Fanfare | roguebug: IIRC not yet ready implemented |
| 00:37.28 | Jucato | roguebug: that feature will be available in 4.2 (January) |
| 00:37.41 | roguebug | ok thx |
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| 00:38.36 | youness | how i can put icons in dektop in kde 4 ?? |
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| 00:46.58 | ElemonGW | roguebug: actually i think it was implemented in kde 4.1.2... |
| 00:47.24 | Jucato | depends if your distro backported that feature |
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| 00:50.18 | jza | whats the name of kcontrol on 4.1? |
| 00:50.59 | Jucato | System Settings (systemsettings) |
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| 00:51.34 | carranca | is there a shortcut to change activitys in kde4? |
| 00:51.45 | jza | whats the name of kcontrol on 4.1? |
| 00:52.12 | Jucato | jza: I already answered |
| 00:52.25 | jza | thanks sorry, didnt assoicated |
| 00:53.06 | KDesk | ooh, then it is system settings, I thought it was personal settings... |
| 00:53.22 | KDesk | If I set to shutdown my monitor in System Settings in KDE 4.1.2 it only goes black with brightness, what can I do to make it realy (automatcly) shutdown? |
| 00:53.24 | Jucato | carranca: http://userbase.kde.org/Plasma#Are_there_any_keyboard_shortcuts_for_Plasma.3F |
| 00:54.46 | maazu | gotta go |
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| 00:57.00 | Fanfare | jza: systemsettings ? |
| 00:58.34 | carranca | is it possible to have a panel per activity? |
| 00:58.50 | carranca | for example a quicklaunch panel on top |
| 00:59.29 | carranca | if my activity is work i should have firefox eclipse and such, if my activity is other then other icons |
| 00:59.59 | jza | Fanfare, thanks |
| 01:00.32 | Jucato | (pfft....) |
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| 01:00.48 | sushisan | hola alguien que hable español? |
| 01:00.59 | sushisan | salve, qualcuno che parli italiano? |
| 01:01.05 | carranca | sushisan: hablo |
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| 01:01.32 | Jucato | sushisan: English only |
| 01:02.09 | Jucato | #kde-es - Spanish KDE and #kdehispano - KDE in Spanish |
| 01:02.15 | sushisan | tengo un problemita con kopete en kde 4.1 |
| 01:02.24 | sushisan | en realidad mas que un problema es una cuestion de configuracion |
| 01:02.33 | pacman87 | Jucato: do you know why gtk apps that start on login don't get KDE colors? |
| 01:02.36 | Jucato | sushisan: English |
| 01:02.47 | Jucato | pacman87: nope sorry |
| 01:02.51 | pacman87 | but if i restart them, they're fine |
| 01:02.59 | carranca | sushisan: te dicen que vayas a #kdehispano |
| 01:03.27 | sushisan | ok |
| 01:03.34 | sushisan | quit |
| 01:03.36 | sushisan | oops |
| 01:03.37 | sushisan | :-) |
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| 01:26.10 | kc8hfi | kde4.1, kopete won't play a sound for incoming messages even though it says to play a sound under configure notifications for both incoming message and incoming message in active chat |
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| 01:31.16 | Radiergummi | so my power just went out, and now my sound is very, very quiet, and alsamixer and kmix aren't doing anything |
| 01:31.32 | Radiergummi | in fact, even when i set the master volume to 0 on alsamixer, i still hear sound |
| 01:31.33 | Radiergummi | ??? |
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| 01:38.19 | lilltiger | Radiergummi: runt alsamixer with -c 1 and see if that help |
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| 01:38.45 | Radiergummi | wrong -c argument '1' |
| 01:38.57 | Radiergummi | did i misinterpret the instruction |
| 01:40.20 | Radiergummi | i'm using my motherboard's onboard sound |
| 01:40.32 | Radiergummi | i did -c 0 and the mixer started, but no change in behavior |
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| 01:44.28 | lilltiger | Radiergummi: no you dident, if it had worked then you would have had 2 sound devices |
| 01:45.08 | lilltiger | Radiergummi: try to change other values lke front and others |
| 01:45.16 | lilltiger | you should get reaction from alsamixer |
| 01:45.38 | lilltiger | try muting and unmuting channels |
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| 01:57.03 | Radiergummi | ok, it was that i wasn't familiar with alsamixer |
| 01:57.18 | Radiergummi | i scrolled over to the first channel and played with it and it worked |
| 01:57.20 | Radiergummi | thanks |
| 01:57.37 | lilltiger | np |
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| 02:43.30 | crazy_pete | hi litb_ |
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| 02:44.13 | crazy_pete | i am running icewm (a window manager) but i prefer a lot of KDE apps even though i dont use the whole KDE desktop environ |
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| 02:44.58 | crazy_pete | Most of the kde apps do not find their icons, that is konqueror and konsole simply display a black box in the upper left hand corner. How can i tell these KDE apps where to find their icons ? |
| 02:45.08 | crazy_pete | please |
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| 03:26.56 | litb | hello creepa |
| 03:27.02 | litb | oops sorry |
| 03:27.07 | litb | i mean crazy_pete . but he is gone -.- |
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| 03:31.44 | lingm | how do i prevent lag (such as with plasmoids, effects, and window resizing) when I use nvidia? |
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| 03:37.54 | Ze_M | konqueror from kde4 doesnt have a google search bar? |
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| 03:58.08 | george_ | lingm: buy a ati with open source drivers installed |
| 03:59.22 | Jucato | Ze_M: it has. ask your distro if they have packages for konq-plugins (KDE 4 version) |
| 03:59.41 | Jucato | the Google Search bar in KDE 3 wasn't built into Konqueror either |
| 03:59.57 | Ze_M | ah yes |
| 03:59.58 | Jucato | (you can also use gg: in the location bar) |
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| 04:00.11 | Ze_M | im new to kde4 |
| 04:00.30 | Ze_M | but the distro should call it kdebase-konq-plugins |
| 04:00.56 | Ze_M | well but thats just a comment about the distro i use |
| 04:00.58 | Jucato | it's not part of kdebase |
| 04:01.10 | Jucato | (konq-plugins I mean) |
| 04:02.21 | Ze_M | its separate? |
| 04:02.29 | Jucato | yes |
| 04:02.31 | Ze_M | its kdeaddons? |
| 04:02.40 | Jucato | in KDE 3, it was kdeaddons. |
| 04:02.57 | Jucato | in KDE 4, kdeaddons has been moved to extragear (in different places) |
| 04:03.05 | Jucato | so it's extragear/base/konq-plugins |
| 04:03.25 | Ze_M | ok |
| 04:03.36 | Ze_M | but its missing a clean icon in the search bar... |
| 04:03.45 | Ze_M | also misses for firefox... |
| 04:04.26 | Jucato | If it's following KDE 4 style, the clear icon will appear after you have types something |
| 04:04.39 | Jucato | just like the one in Konqueror's address bar |
| 04:04.43 | Ze_M | ah yes, great :) |
| 04:05.04 | Jucato | that's the new style in KDE 4 (versus KDE 3 which had a separate button outside of the text area) |
| 04:05.51 | Ze_M | Jucato: one thing that i miss a lot in kde4 is that isnt possible to have a panel in wich can be hidden and when appear be able to be in front of windows, in the office style |
| 04:06.03 | Ze_M | in kde3 that was possible |
| 04:07.10 | Jucato | panel hiding will be in KDE 4.2 (January) |
| 04:07.18 | Ze_M | in kde3 was possible to add another panel and put it in the left upper side and move the mouse to that part so that the panel could appear and it could be in front of the other applications windows |
| 04:07.33 | Ze_M | Jucato: exists in svn? |
| 04:07.36 | Jucato | yes |
| 04:07.40 | Ze_M | great |
| 04:07.48 | Ze_M | so ill start packaging it |
| 04:07.59 | Ze_M | that will be next mde release :) |
| 04:08.16 | Ze_M | now im quite happy :) |
| 04:08.30 | Ze_M | so its time to really stop with kde3... |
| 04:13.11 | Ze_M | Jucato: do you know of a good app to record webcam ? |
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| 04:33.33 | johnny69 | Name of config file for Kopete? (Kde 3.5.x/suse 10.2) Thanks |
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| 05:11.16 | Jucato | ok |
| 05:11.25 | Jucato | oops wrong window :) |
| 05:11.42 | Jucato | johnny69: ~/.kde/share/config/kopeterc and other kopete named files |
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| 06:03.14 | tstaerk__ | that is not a feature, it is a regression bug. |
| 06:03.23 | tstaerk__ | sorry |
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| 07:07.39 | kebomix | Free Programming ebooks With Direct Links & Request ebooks Here http://request-ebooks.blogspot.com/ |
| 07:08.33 | Jucato | kebomix: please do not spam |
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| 07:15.09 | jza | whats the name of the run command in kde |
| 07:15.13 | jza | how can I call it from cli? |
| 07:15.46 | jza | anyone |
| 07:16.26 | jza | Aikawa, hi u know what's the name of 'run command' on kde |
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| 07:17.27 | jza | aseigo, , hi u know what's the name of 'run command' on kde |
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| 07:17.40 | aseigo | jza: krunner |
| 07:17.52 | jza | thanks |
| 07:18.07 | jza | 3.5? |
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| 07:18.13 | Jucato | KDE 4 |
| 07:18.21 | Jucato | 3.5 it's part of kdesktop |
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| 07:18.49 | jza | Jucato, so how can I call it from 3.5 in CLI |
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| 07:18.57 | jza | I want to configure a shortcut |
| 07:20.06 | Jucato | I forgot the exact dcop command. you can search around in the "kdcop" app |
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| 07:23.05 | jza | Jucato, klauncher? |
| 07:24.29 | Jucato | [15:18] <Jucato> 3.5 it's part of kdesktop |
| 07:25.27 | jza | Jucato, ok is there a way I can clic alt-f2 and have run dialog |
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| 07:26.10 | Jucato | using dcop yes. but like I said, I don't have KDE 3 and I don't recall the exact command |
| 07:26.24 | Jucato | something like "dcop kdesktop runCommand soemthing" |
| 07:26.29 | Jucato | to make it popup |
| 07:26.42 | jza | Jucato, ok |
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| 07:36.29 | angus_p` | where can i find the KDE 4 equivalent of KDE 3's KMainWindow::actioncollection()? |
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| 07:37.37 | kuku | Hi, I just installed kde4.1.2 on gentoo and I have strange problem - my monitor resolution is 1280X1024 but my desktop appears just like it was 1280x800 or something like this - the lower part of the screen is white |
| 07:39.31 | Jucato | angus_p`: #kde-devel perhaps? or http://api.kde.org |
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| 07:40.19 | mlLK | !rules |
| 07:40.23 | mlLK | !help |
| 07:41.39 | irina_r | mlLK: do you mean "don't help"? |
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| 07:42.01 | irina_r | I'm perfectly willing not to help you because I don't think I can :-) |
| 07:42.21 | angus_p` | Jucato: thank you |
| 07:42.49 | mlLK | !sex |
| 07:42.54 | mlLK | !age |
| 07:42.59 | mlLK | !fag |
| 07:43.01 | mlLK | !fap |
| 07:43.05 | mlLK | !sry |
| 07:43.10 | mlLK | k i'm done flooding |
| 07:43.36 | mlLK | anyone build big applications? |
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| 07:43.50 | mlLK | like use design patterns etc. |
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| 08:06.08 | irina_r | kuku: change your password, because now we all know it! |
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| 08:07.43 | jazka | and you should do that in status window, _always_ :) |
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| 08:10.05 | rand_acs | hey guys, I'm having a strange problem after updating KDE4.1.x yesterday. When I play videos fullscreen the black bits around the video goes gray sometimes. Making a mouse gesture fixes it. This happens with mplayer, kmplayer and vlc, any ideas? |
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| 08:13.05 | jazka | rand_acs: what video card? desktop effects enabled` |
| 08:13.06 | jazka | ? |
| 08:13.36 | rand_acs | jazka: Geforce 8600GT |
| 08:13.45 | jazka | rand_acs: and the latest drivers? 177.80? |
| 08:14.08 | rand_acs | running Kwin, and got some of the new 3d features running |
| 08:14.22 | rand_acs | bit off topic, but they are very nice! |
| 08:14.28 | rand_acs | jazka: let me check |
| 08:15.21 | rand_acs | jazka: 173.14.12, strange that the update didn't get the newest version... |
| 08:15.23 | jazka | I remember having that problem with the earlier drivers, but it seems to be fixed now (177.80) |
| 08:15.36 | jazka | rand_acs: you really should upgrade, you'll get better performance |
| 08:15.43 | rand_acs | jazka: great! I'll get the update now |
| 08:16.06 | rand_acs | jazka: what distro you running? |
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| 08:16.29 | jazka | nvidia-settings -a InitialPixmapPlacement=2 -a GlyphCache=1 <- that helps too, after updating the drivers, on performance |
| 08:16.35 | jazka | rand_acs: opensuse 11 atm |
| 08:16.40 | rand_acs | jazka: same |
| 08:16.48 | jazka | I've installed the drivers manually |
| 08:17.06 | rand_acs | oh I see, you just got them from the site and installed? |
| 08:17.19 | jazka | yea, first removed the opensuse ones tho |
| 08:17.27 | rand_acs | right |
| 08:18.07 | rand_acs | x86_64? |
| 08:19.06 | jazka | yup, I'm on 64-bit |
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| 09:16.16 | crs | Hi guys. What this process is exactly doing? /usr/bin/nepomukservicestub nepomukstorage. It is permanently taking about 70% of cpu time. ;/ |
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| 09:17.34 | MZM | crs: it's taking 70% of Your cpu time, doh! |
| 09:18.13 | NSaibot | hehe |
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| 09:21.11 | krokodil | hi, i rm'd my kde3 konqueror binary and now `which konqueror` says "no konqueror"... yet doing "~" in krunner opens the home in konq3. how is this possible?? |
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| 09:21.19 | krokodil | it just won't die :/ |
| 09:21.52 | pinotree | what is the real problem you are trying to solve in this lame way? |
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| 09:22.29 | crs | MZM: ;-) Seriously, what is that doing all the time? |
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| 09:23.21 | MZM | crs: eating Your CPU resources (google:nepomuk) |
| 09:23.50 | krokodil | :/ |
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| 09:25.36 | thiago_home | crs: it's indexing your files |
| 09:25.40 | thiago_home | everything in $HOME |
| 09:26.28 | crs | thiago_home: Ok, so once it will finish will just sit there and wait for file changes, yes? |
| 09:26.48 | thiago_home | yes |
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| 09:32.53 | osiris_ | hi. |
| 09:33.05 | osiris_ | where one can find source for kcm modules in kde svn tree? |
| 09:33.16 | thiago_home | which module? |
| 09:33.34 | osiris_ | look and feel |
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| 09:34.39 | thiago_home | no such module in system settings |
| 09:34.49 | wstephenson | thiago_home: that's a category |
| 09:35.05 | wstephenson | osiris_: system settings groups kcms into categories |
| 09:35.11 | osiris_ | then maybe it's named desktop - the one where you switch desktop effects |
| 09:35.15 | wstephenson | look and feel is just a .desktop file |
| 09:35.24 | wstephenson | that's in workspace/kwin |
| 09:36.15 | osiris_ | thanks |
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| 09:40.38 | thomasj | Good morning. Is there a bugzilla for kde i can look for a problem with quadkonsole running in kde4.1.2? It just gives the following output: KCrash: Application 'quadkonsole' crashing... KCrash cannot reach kdeinit, launching directly. |
| 09:42.03 | pinotree | we don't develop quadkonsole, so you have to report it to its developer(s) |
| 09:42.24 | thomasj | pinotree, ah ok, thank you very much :) |
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| 09:54.53 | MZM | huh. does Flash work with Konqueror-4.1.2? |
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| 09:59.27 | osiris_ | where is the source of KPluginSelector widget? |
| 09:59.44 | pinotree | kdelibs/kutils |
| 10:00.27 | MZM | not that bad - only embedded YouTube videos fail to show up... |
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| 10:01.43 | SSJ_GZ | osiris_: Here's a handy resource: http://lxr.kde.org/ident?i=KPluginSelector |
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| 10:02.30 | SSJ_GZ | osiris_: I meant just lxr.kde.org, of course :) |
| 10:03.24 | osiris_ | SSJ_GZ: that's really helpful :) |
| 10:03.31 | SSJ_GZ | :) |
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| 10:17.36 | dreamtheater | Does anyone know a workaround for the kde4 hotkeys issue? |
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| 10:39.40 | zob | hi, just wondering. is there a way to edit actions in device notifier in KDE4? |
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| 10:44.02 | Ahmad | hello |
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| 10:48.54 | noaXess | Ahmad: here |
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| 10:49.06 | Ahmad | ok ok |
| 10:49.23 | Ahmad | whats your distro noa? |
| 10:49.36 | gkiagia | zob: no (not yet, at least) |
| 10:50.28 | Ahmad | whats your distro noaXess ? |
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| 10:50.49 | noaXess | Ahmad: kubuntu.. sorry i have to go |
| 10:50.59 | Ahmad | ok |
| 10:51.15 | Soultaker | Quick question: in Kate that comes with KDE 4.1.2, how can I configure the external tools? |
| 10:51.21 | Ahmad | is anyone here that we have a chat ?? |
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| 10:51.39 | raininja | Ahmad, ? |
| 10:51.55 | raininja | os[Linux 2.6.26.5-11m.mo5.x86_64 x86_64] distro[Momonga Linux release 5 (Miyako)] cpu[1 x AMD Athlon(tm) 64 FX-53 Processor (AuthenticAMD) @ 1.20GHz] mem[Physical: 1002.8MB, 52.5% free] disk[Total: 144.1GB, 38.8% free] video[10de:0041] sound[VIA8237 - VIA 8237] |
| 10:52.02 | Ahmad_Ra | hi raininja |
| 10:52.06 | raininja | hiya |
| 10:52.49 | Ahmad_Ra | Momonga Linux release 5 how is ? |
| 10:53.02 | Ahmad_Ra | i'm using fedora 9 |
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| 10:54.10 | raininja | Ahmad_Ra, momonga is doing well |
| 10:54.11 | Ahmad_Ra | ? |
| 10:54.40 | raininja | i like it |
| 10:54.59 | Ahmad_Ra | ok |
| 10:55.09 | Ahmad_Ra | what it's package manager raininja? |
| 10:58.17 | Ahmad_Ra | r u there raininja? |
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| 11:02.03 | Soultaker | one more try: in Kate that comes with KDE 4.1.2, how can I configure the external tools? |
| 11:03.48 | Soultaker | Or phrased differently: why the hell is there an external tools plugin if I can't configure the tools it runs? |
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| 11:06.55 | Maakuth | this is really strange: my kubuntu interpid' |
| 11:07.15 | Maakuth | intrepid's kde4 doesn't repeat the left cursor key |
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| 11:08.46 | Maakuth | every other button repeats fine. what is this about? |
| 11:09.30 | hyper_ch | Maakuth: works fine here |
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| 11:10.27 | Maakuth | yes, i imagine this problem isn't present in every kde 4 or kubuntu installation |
| 11:12.09 | Maakuth | oh, i'm sorry.. it doesn't seem to be a kde problem at all. |
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| 12:05.29 | Shapeshifter | How can I get konqueror to always align all icons 'to the grid'? |
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| 12:09.37 | rand_acs | jazka: seems like the new driver solved the problem, thanks for the tip :) |
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| 12:22.26 | gkiagia | nepomuk sucks. it uses 100% the cpu when I delete files and makes dolphin quite unresponsive and slow in general :/ |
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| 12:24.36 | MZM | gkiagia: Dolphin IS unresponsive also without Nepomuk... |
| 12:25.01 | gkiagia | no, I just turned off nepomuk and it flies |
| 12:25.47 | MZM | gkiagia: lucky You. When I open folder with some hundreds of files it's sloooow |
| 12:26.51 | Ace2016 | YAY! i did it, i completed knetwalk on hardest without a penalty, when i realised that there was a status bar it was much easier |
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| 12:36.42 | et | Ace2016: expert means wrap-around? |
| 12:36.53 | Ace2016 | and bigger |
| 12:37.15 | Ace2016 | it always wraps around doesn't it? |
| 12:37.16 | et | err, master i meant |
| 12:37.36 | et | hmm, i didn't have to in expert, but in master i have |
| 12:37.45 | Ace2016 | theres only, easy medium, hard and very hard, whats master? |
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| 12:38.10 | et | novice, normal, expert and master are the settings i have here ;) |
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| 12:38.30 | Ace2016 | maybe language settings mean its named differently, what localisation do you use? USA? |
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| 12:40.55 | Lazydog | hello, i have an issue i cannot figure out. i had installd firefox under my home dir for testing. i have since removed this test of firefox but when i press CTRL-F2 and type firefox it still tries to start it from my home dir. i cannot locate where kde is getting this information so i can change it anyone know? |
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| 12:42.46 | Lazydog | also because of this when clicking web links they fail because of the issue above. any help would be greatly appreciated |
| 12:43.56 | Ace2016 | Lazydog: run: which firefox from the command line |
| 12:44.28 | gkiagia | Lazydog: it's probably some .desktop file somewhere in ~/.local |
| 12:44.34 | Ace2016 | and what does echo $PATH say? |
| 12:44.41 | Lazydog | it give the correct dir /usr/bin/firefox |
| 12:45.40 | Lazydog | bash: /usr/kerberos/bin:/usr/local/bin:/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/usr/lib/jre/bin:/home/rjs/bin:/usr/lib/jre/bin: |
| 12:46.10 | Lazydog | it looks like it is hard coded but for the life of me i cannot find out where |
| 12:46.34 | Lazydog | i checked everything in the control console |
| 12:46.52 | Lazydog | all referances to firefox are just that no paths |
| 12:46.59 | MZM | Lazydog: file associations/embedding? |
| 12:47.21 | et | Lazydog: run "which firefox" in alt-f2 with "run in terminal" |
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| 12:48.12 | Lazydog | et: not gettingwhat you want me to do here |
| 12:48.14 | Lazydog | sorry |
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| 12:49.24 | et | Lazydog: alt-f2 has an option "run in terminal" |
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| 12:50.16 | Lazydog | et: ahh learnt something new |
| 12:50.26 | gkiagia | Lazydog: it's 99.9% a .dekstop file left somewhere in the xdg applications path (probably in ~/.local/share/applications) |
| 12:50.48 | Lazydog | et: is give /usr/bin/firefox |
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| 12:53.07 | Lazydog | gkiagia: check and nothing there points to ~/firefox did a 'grep -R firefox *' nothing showed up |
| 12:54.33 | gkiagia | Lazydog: also check in file associations for html files |
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| 12:55.13 | zizzfizzix | hi! |
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| 12:55.23 | zizzfizzix | where are .desktop files "from" menu? |
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| 12:57.46 | Lazydog | ok looked at associations/html says firefox then i clicked edit and seen there was a path there so i removed that. now how do i get kde to re-read the file associations? clicking on a web link it still tries to open firefox from my home dir |
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| 13:00.36 | MZM | Lazydog: in the same place look in "embedded" tab |
| 13:01.46 | Lazydog | MZM: this is kde 3.3.1 and i don't see that |
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| 13:02.40 | MZM | Lazydog: You are using 3.3.1? |
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| 13:02.56 | Lazydog | yes RH |
| 13:03.03 | gkiagia | Lazydog: kbuildsycoca --noincremental |
| 13:03.19 | gkiagia | and upgrade! |
| 13:03.21 | gkiagia | :P |
| 13:03.25 | Lazydog | :) |
| 13:03.51 | MZM | Lazydog: I "see" embedding (Iegulšana) in my 3.5.10. Strange. |
| 13:03.53 | Lazydog | need to keep this machine compliant so if RH doesn't releast it then i should not install it |
| 13:05.00 | Lazydog | i guess i could alway just log out of kde and back in that would cause it to re-read the configs |
| 13:05.09 | Lazydog | but there has got to be an easier way |
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| 13:06.24 | gkiagia | kbuildsycoca is the easier way :) |
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| 13:10.28 | logixoul | hi can anyone help me with http://logixoul.bluwiki.com/go/Kde4_gripes |
| 13:11.31 | logixoul | most of this stuff has been getting on my nerves since 4.0.0 beta.. |
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| 13:13.16 | Lazydog | well that didn't help still the same issues. :( |
| 13:14.14 | Lazydog | the error msg is: KDEInit could not launch '/home/myhome/firefox/firefox' |
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| 13:14.45 | Lazydog | where is kdeinit looking for this information? |
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| 13:15.11 | logixoul | i'm getting this too lazydog |
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| 13:15.23 | logixoul | stuff gets launched all right but then i get the message it can't be launched |
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| 13:15.35 | agentdenton | hi there |
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| 13:15.52 | agentdenton | is there a way to use kwallet with a key file instead of a master password? |
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| 13:16.04 | MZM | Lazydog: check again that file association thingy... |
| 13:16.42 | gkiagia | Lazydog: in the file associations dialog, click to edit firefox and see (in the first tab) where is the .desktop file located |
| 13:17.11 | agentdenton | that's because I've an encrypted home partition and I could safely store the keyfile there and don't have to bother with a password for kwallet. |
| 13:17.35 | Lazydog | on the edit screen for 'File Ass.->text->html' i see this 'firefox openURL %u text/htm' |
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| 13:18.17 | pinotree | Lazydog: wrong, use the "default applications" module |
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| 13:18.47 | Lazydog | pinwhere is this located? |
| 13:18.59 | Lazydog | pinotree: where is this located? |
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| 13:19.20 | pinotree | always in kde control center or systemsettings |
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| 13:20.44 | cb400f | is it somehow possible to move widgets from the panel back to the desktop? .. just added netgraph plasmoid to panel and configured it, then decided it should go on desktop instead.. can't figure out how to do it, other than remove it from the panel and re-add it to the desktop (and thus reconfigure it) |
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| 13:20.51 | cb400f | (4.1.2) |
| 13:21.37 | gkiagia | logixoul: looking at your link... are you using nvidia drivers? |
| 13:21.52 | logixoul | gkiagia: yes.\ |
| 13:22.12 | gkiagia | logixoul: most of the slowness bugs are actually nvidia driver bugs |
| 13:22.35 | Lazydog | pinotree: control center->component chooser? |
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| 13:22.41 | pinotree | yes |
| 13:22.45 | logixoul | gkiagia: ok, seeing as i don't need 3d games or compositing, is there anything i can do? |
| 13:23.13 | gkiagia | logixoul: "filemanager area in konq doesn't get focus when i switch to the tab that contains it" -> I can reproduce that, it's a bug imho |
| 13:23.25 | gkiagia | logixoul: use "nv" or "vesa" ? |
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| 13:23.38 | gkiagia | or the latest 177.80 drivers? |
| 13:23.58 | Lazydog | pinotree: not good sometimes i like to use konqueror and if you lock this down to firefox it will open firefox when you try to use konqueror |
| 13:24.03 | logixoul | i'll try |
| 13:24.27 | pinotree | Lazydog: associating to text/html is worse in that regard |
| 13:24.33 | gkiagia | logixoul: "gwenview part when embedded in konq can't go to next pic, not even with spacebar" -> that is the expected behavior |
| 13:24.36 | pinotree | logixoul: you know that doing a "my rant" page will not solve the problems? |
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| 13:25.08 | pinotree | logixoul: you really do want to have them fixed? report them on bugzilla, not in some random "my rants" page |
| 13:25.55 | gkiagia | logixoul: "entering address in location bar and pressing enter" -> that's a bug too. also, the toolbar bug is fixed in svn. all the other bugs aren't reproducable here :) |
| 13:25.57 | logixoul | pinotree: it's not a fucking rant it's a irc discussion page. either help me with any of them (workarounds often exist) or keep quiet, of course i'll file them in bko if i ever decide it'll be worth it |
| 13:26.34 | pinotree | logixoul: congrats for the "keep quiet". |
| 13:27.12 | logixoul | gkiagia: what about switching to next pic in gwenview part? spacebar works ? |
| 13:27.49 | gkiagia | logixoul: no, it doesn't. and afaik, this is the expected behavior. konqueror is not meant to replace gwenview |
| 13:28.19 | logixoul | it always worked in kde3 :( i need it, looks like i'll have to fix it |
| 13:28.20 | logixoul | thanks |
| 13:29.33 | Jucato | things change. things get lost/replaced/improved/corrected |
| 13:29.50 | logixoul | yeah but this one sucks so it needs fixing |
| 13:29.51 | Jucato | ("fix it" presumes it's not working as intended. perhaps it is, for KDE 4) |
| 13:30.07 | logixoul | guess i'll have to argue for it then. |
| 13:30.20 | Jucato | hence bug reports :) |
| 13:30.54 | logixoul | obviously |
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| 13:35.12 | NauarchLysander | Does anybody know a good audio converter that can convert between MP3s and Oggs? |
| 13:35.18 | thiago_home | don't do that |
| 13:36.03 | NauarchLysander | Why? |
| 13:36.12 | logixoul | NauarchLysander you're only losing quality |
| 13:36.35 | irina_r | has kde 4! |
| 13:36.41 | irina_r | *and* network! |
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| 13:36.52 | pinotree | (unless he put the mp3 within the ogg container) |
| 13:37.00 | irina_r | will now go /away again to have fun configuring |
| 13:37.08 | logixoul | that's still useless :) |
| 13:37.08 | NauarchLysander | logixoul: Yes, but unfortunately I have some songs in Ogg, but I need to convert them to MP3s in order to play them on my MP3 player. |
| 13:37.14 | logixoul | ah |
| 13:37.22 | thiago_home | NauarchLysander: don't transcode, since the codecs are different. |
| 13:37.31 | thiago_home | NauarchLysander: that will mean you're losing quality. |
| 13:37.38 | logixoul | NauarchLysander: SoundKonverter or AudioKonverter was good i think |
| 13:37.38 | thiago_home | I recommend re-ripping them from the CD instead. |
| 13:37.47 | NauarchLysander | logixoul: Ok, thanks. |
| 13:38.47 | logixoul | NauarchLysander: np, ahh i remember the best one, it's an amarok script called transkode |
| 13:38.47 | NauarchLysander | logixoul: ok |
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| 13:38.48 | gkiagia | NauarchLysander: I use a script that runs mplayer && oggenc/lame to do that if I need it |
| 13:39.03 | NauarchLysander | logixoul: Transkode does not appear in Synaptic. |
| 13:39.09 | logixoul | NauarchLysander: kde-apps.org |
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| 13:39.27 | NauarchLysander | logixoul: Ok, thanks. |
| 13:39.28 | kebomix | Free programming ebooks With Direct Links & Request ebooks Here http://request-ebooks.blogspot.com/ |
| 13:39.33 | logixoul | gkiagia but that doesn't seamlessly happen when you just wanna transfer tracks :) |
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| 13:40.37 | logixoul | warned heh |
| 13:40.40 | logixoul | that'll teach him |
| 13:41.22 | pinotree | he has been warned when he did that in the past here and in other kde channels |
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| 13:42.17 | gkiagia | why don't you ban him then, as well? |
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| 13:43.08 | Jucato | and I warned it earlier today as well |
| 13:43.33 | Jucato | there's always a next time. I feel merciful today |
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| 13:45.26 | DJ_JimBob | hi everybody |
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| 13:47.39 | logixoul | what suse packages do i need to build trunk gwenview with minimal fuss? i don't have a trunk buildtree |
| 13:49.03 | pinotree | logixoul: #opensuse-kde |
| 13:51.32 | Jucato | logixoul: ask in... um... what pinotree said |
| 13:51.33 | Jucato | is slow |
| 13:51.59 | slow | is slow |
| 13:52.13 | Jucato | heh |
| 13:52.21 | pinotree | slow: well no, you should be Jucato then :P |
| 13:52.21 | slow | :) |
| 13:52.37 | Jucato | lol |
| 13:52.45 | Jucato | go ahead, gang up on me! :) |
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| 13:58.36 | tuxick | drops a herring on Jucato |
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| 14:07.13 | tdi_k | Hi, I have a weird problem - my screen get's few black lines (or a black frame) every ~10 seconds. |
| 14:07.19 | tdi_k | Happens only when i run kde through startkde (e.g plasma, kwin, krunner in xterm work as expected) |
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| 14:08.12 | Gambas | Hello everyone |
| 14:08.19 | logixoul | tried disabling compositing? |
| 14:08.33 | Gambas | when i'm using Kopete, while loading it close. :/ |
| 14:08.37 | tdi_k | logixoul: it does not mather, I tried |
| 14:08.45 | Gambas | someone have a similar bug ? |
| 14:08.53 | MZM | Gambas: start from konsole to see any error messages |
| 14:09.21 | Gambas | MZM: i ran it into a console, and no messages. |
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| 14:10.17 | Gambas | i've just got created a jabber account, done a right-click to connect and then, it crashes. |
| 14:10.22 | logixoul | tdi_k: just in case, see if there's any processes consuming 100%cpu |
| 14:10.34 | tdi_k | no |
| 14:11.16 | Ace2016 | How do i make http:// always open in the web browser? |
| 14:11.38 | Ace2016 | i clicked on a png image url and it openend gwenview or something and downloaded the image and showed it to me, i want my browser |
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| 14:11.58 | MZM | slow: can You, please, leave Dolphin alone so it could be fast? |
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| 14:12.27 | tdi_k | logixoul: it's quite strange. I have radeon9200 and x800. Problem is only with x800. And only when I start through 'startkde' |
| 14:12.57 | cb400f | Ace2016: systemsettings -> default apps -> browser |
| 14:13.03 | tdi_k | logixoul: if i just start kwin, plasma, krunner everything is normal... Distro issue I guess ? |
| 14:13.39 | Ace2016 | cb400f: thats set top opera but it launched the image viewer and downloaded the image in konqueror style download dialogue |
| 14:14.04 | Ace2016 | anyone know how to set gmail as the custom mail client? |
| 14:14.05 | cb400f | Ace2016: in which app did you click the link? |
| 14:14.07 | dreamtheater | In KDE 4.1.2, is it possible to move program icons on a task bar, or is it broken? |
| 14:14.08 | logixoul | tdi_k: can't say |
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| 14:14.49 | logixoul | dreamtheater: broken i think |
| 14:15.16 | tdi_k | logixoul: I'll keep looking. 10x anyway |
| 14:15.25 | dreamtheater | Ok, so I needn't bother anymore ;o) |
| 14:18.45 | NauarchLysander | I have a problem with the import of E-Mails from Thunderbird on Windows to Kontact. I select the folder and at first, everything is well. But when the KMailCVT Import Tool reaches "Start import file cert8.db..." it produces an error messages saying "Cannot add messages to folder Thunderbird-Import/cert8.db in KMail". I can click OK, but it appears two more times and the program subsequently crashes. What can I do? |
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| 14:26.27 | Lazydog | well i got firefox to start but now konqueror can't load webpages. if i try it opens firefox. :( |
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| 14:31.01 | manro | http://kukaj.php5.sk/ http://kukaj.php5.sk/ http://kukaj.php5.sk/ http://kukaj.php5.sk/ |
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| 14:32.06 | Lazydog | if i don't use firefox in the web chooser section then firefox opens 3 tabs (openurl.com, the web page and some sort of text page) when opening a page and konqueror works as expected |
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| 14:35.08 | scriptx | in kde4, systemsettings, desktop, launch feedback.. if i opt for bouncing cursor, the image displayed is always a small square bearing no resemblance to the icon it should show |
| 14:36.41 | The_Ball | scriptx, i don't have that behaviour in 4.1.2, which distro are you using? |
| 14:36.48 | luke-jr | tdi_k: disable compositing and restart X |
| 14:37.01 | scriptx | kubuntu, 4.1.2 also |
| 14:37.06 | luke-jr | tdi_k: alternatively, upgrade X to get the bugfixes |
| 14:37.08 | dreamtheater | Oh! It _is_ possible to move the icons on a panel. When editing the panel, a crosshair-like cursor appears, when hovering over an icon... |
| 14:37.09 | scriptx | it doesn't happen on my slackware install |
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| 14:38.09 | luke-jr | NauarchLysander: I suggest using a standard maildir, or better yet running an IMAP server |
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| 14:39.42 | logixoul | dreamtheater yep |
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| 14:41.50 | NauarchLysander | luke-jr: You mean this is a bug in the KMailCVT Import Tool? I would better avoid setting up a server (security issues and it seems a pretty big thing to do to be able to do a one-time import). What is a standard maildir? |
| 14:43.30 | tdi_k | luke-jr: I'm up2date. Composite does not mather |
| 14:44.06 | luke-jr | tdi_k: X.org 1.3? |
| 14:44.19 | luke-jr | 1.5.2* |
| 14:44.38 | luke-jr | NauarchLysander: an IMAP server would be long-term, not one-time |
| 14:44.47 | luke-jr | local mail is silly IMO |
| 14:46.16 | NauarchLysander | luke-jr: Still, I just want to import my Mail from Thunderbird on Windows and then just get my mail. I am sorry, but I do not have the time to learn about running an IMAP server. |
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| 14:48.32 | tdi_k | luke-jr: not sure. should be 1.5 something (ubuntu 8.10). when I kill kded4 my problem is gone |
| 14:48.42 | Soultaker | In Kate that comes with KDE 4.1.2, how can I configure the external tools? |
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| 14:49.36 | Calzifer | hi, if i have forgotten to close a window, and after the next restart its starting the last programm that i have forgotten to close, but how can i deactivate this ? |
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| 14:50.36 | logixoul | calzifer, look somewhere for "session saving" in systemsettings |
| 14:50.39 | osiris_ | anyone know the insides of KCategorizedView? |
| 14:50.48 | logixoul | osiris, try #kde-devel |
| 14:51.10 | Calzifer | but where? in the control center? |
| 14:52.21 | logixoul | calzifer, "control center" in kde3, "systemsettign in kde4" |
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| 15:04.29 | doomster | I'm just pondering over an upgrade to 4.x, I'm wondering if it will automatically migrate my settings. |
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| 15:06.17 | tdi_k | doomster: It depends ... |
| 15:06.51 | Soultaker | doomster: no. |
| 15:07.17 | doomster | :D |
| 15:07.51 | doomster | tdi_k: depends on what? |
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| 15:08.02 | tdi_k | doomster: which settings |
| 15:08.07 | thiago_home | doomster: nothing changes |
| 15:08.13 | thiago_home | most of the config files are exactly the same |
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| 15:08.38 | thiago_home | there are a few things here and there that will not get copied (in KMail, a few settings, nothing too big) |
| 15:08.43 | tdi_k | themes, wallpapers etc. are not provided by the same apps, so they won't work |
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| 15:09.35 | doomster | okay, it won't be completely lossless, but in general KDE is trying to preserve settings. |
| 15:09.38 | doomster | right? |
| 15:09.53 | thiago_home | right |
| 15:10.12 | thiago_home | in most cases it'll just work |
| 15:10.26 | thiago_home | there are only a few exceptions -- very few of them |
| 15:10.47 | thiago_home | and, like tdi_k said, when the application or functionality is no longer present or has been switched completely. |
| 15:11.03 | thiago_home | so, for example, none of the kicker settings or kdesktop settings are used. Plasma is a whole new application. |
| 15:11.21 | doomster | okay, I managed the upgrades from 1->2 and 2->3 and it didn't scare me away, so I think I can live with that. |
| 15:11.55 | pinotree | if the local kde directory is the same, then no migration is needed |
| 15:11.56 | logixoul | seriously, you can probably re-set all options in 15 minutes or so ;) |
| 15:12.23 | pinotree | local kde directory = result of `kde-config --localprefix` (kde3) and `kde4-config --localprefix` (kde4) |
| 15:12.25 | doomster | well, I'm only using kmail, knode and konqueror with fluxbox, not the complete DE, so kicker and all that don't matter. |
| 15:13.09 | doomster | now I only have to find a suitable backup medium first.... ;) |
| 15:13.32 | tdi_k | a small question: is it evil to kill kded and start it again ? |
| 15:13.54 | thiago_home | the local KDE directory is the same if you compile KDE |
| 15:14.06 | thiago_home | if you don't compile KDE, you should ask whoever did how to migrate the settings |
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| 15:21.13 | scriptx | The_Ball: still around? |
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| 15:25.46 | asmith42a | I noticed that in openSUSE there are few more widgets in the "Add Widgets" list than there are in Kubuntu. Is there an elegant way to add more widgets to that list and is there a place to browse and download widgets online? |
| 15:26.28 | thiago_home | download them |
| 15:26.50 | thiago_home | opensuse has backported a few widgets and installed some that aren't considered released |
| 15:26.53 | thiago_home | that's why you have more |
| 15:27.17 | asmith42a | Ah, I see. |
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| 15:38.20 | Darkclaw66 | I installed KDE 4.1 and when I load it, the taskbar is blurry and not all the functionality appears to be working okay |
| 15:38.26 | Darkclaw66 | can someone help me find out how to get this working? |
| 15:38.42 | Darkclaw66 | I installed kdebase4 from ports and im using tightvnc |
| 15:38.49 | thiago_home | turn off desktop effects |
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| 15:40.37 | Darkclaw66 | where do I disable desktop effects? |
| 15:40.45 | logixoul | systemsettings->desktop |
| 15:41.05 | Darkclaw66 | all effects are disabled |
| 15:41.07 | thiago_home | or Alt+F3, Configure Window settings |
| 15:41.15 | thiago_home | does the same problem happen without VNC? |
| 15:41.23 | Darkclaw66 | im not sure, I havent tried it without vnc |
| 15:41.34 | Darkclaw66 | im going to assume its not related to vnc |
| 15:41.56 | Darkclaw66 | I was running kde 3.x with vnc was working well but since I upgraded to 4.1 its not been going well |
| 15:42.01 | thiago_home | try without VNC |
| 15:42.06 | thiago_home | I'm going to assume it is related to it |
| 15:42.12 | MZM | Darkclaw66: what do You mean by "not all the functionality appears to be working okay"? examples? |
| 15:42.38 | Darkclaw66 | the taskbar is blurry cannot see it but when I click on it the menu shows up but some of the icons are missing |
| 15:43.02 | Darkclaw66 | when I click leave-> logout, it doesnt logout |
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| 15:43.26 | Darkclaw66 | I havent actually ran kde without vnc, how would I do it? |
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| 15:46.39 | Darkclaw66 | I'll need to run it with vnc but I am going to say VNC is probably not the problem |
| 15:46.57 | dutch | when I click on a link, it opens in Kongqueor instead of FF...how to change ? |
| 15:47.14 | Darkclaw66 | I'll post the log maybe theres a error |
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| 15:48.07 | thiago_home | Darkclaw66: well, running with VNC is a lot more complicated |
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| 15:48.24 | thiago_home | just log in via kdm to KDE 4 (sitting in front of the computer, of course) |
| 15:48.57 | Darkclaw66 | I would agree but once you see the log I am pretty sure you'll agree that its not vnc |
| 15:49.50 | thiago_home | ok |
| 15:50.09 | Darkclaw66 | here is a link to the log, maybe you'll see something http://www.pastebin.ca/1230270 |
| 15:50.18 | NSaibot | is it a known bug that, if you reduce the height of the controlpanel it comes through the roof? |
| 15:50.46 | NSaibot | that is, the lower part of the controlpanel is displayed on top |
| 15:50.59 | thiago_home | NSaibot: I've seen that |
| 15:51.13 | NSaibot | thiago_home: should i file a bug? |
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| 15:51.36 | Darkclaw66 | did you guys see anything in the log that would explain the problems im having |
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| 15:52.17 | marko_d | Darkclaw66: tried a lighter wm trough vnc ? |
| 15:52.29 | marko_d | maybe is the network connection |
| 15:52.38 | Darkclaw66 | no.. |
| 15:53.01 | thiago_home | NSaibot: yes, if it's not filed already |
| 15:53.02 | Darkclaw66 | im running it via LAN and also I was using this setup with KDE 3.x and it was working fine |
| 15:53.05 | thiago_home | Darkclaw66: kded(26406)/kdeui (KIconLoader): Error: standard icon theme "oxygen" not found! |
| 15:53.16 | thiago_home | Darkclaw66: kded(26406) KLocalePrivate::initEncoding: Cannot resolve system encoding, defaulting to ISO 8859-1. |
| 15:53.27 | pinotree | initEncoding can be ignored |
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| 15:53.36 | sushisan | hi |
| 15:53.44 | pinotree | while the missing oxygen theme not; Darkclaw66, how did you install kde? |
| 15:53.48 | sushisan | I have a problem with kopete in kde 4.1 |
| 15:54.08 | Darkclaw66 | I installed kdebase4 via ports Freebsd |
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| 15:54.50 | sushisan | I want that the ONLY notification on an incomimng message will be an animated icon in systray, not popups menues but I can't configure this...is possible? |
| 15:55.28 | Darkclaw66 | the problems im having is because it cant find the oxygen icon theme? |
| 15:55.39 | Darkclaw66 | that would explain why im not seeing any icons |
| 15:56.14 | thiago_home | kwin(26415): Couldn't start knotify from knotify4.desktop: "Could not find service 'knotify4.desktop'." |
| 15:56.17 | thiago_home | kwin(26415)/kdeui (KNotification) KNotification::slotReceivedIdError: Error while contacting notify daemon "The name org.kde.knotify was not provided by any .service files" |
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| 15:56.57 | thiago_home | findServiceByDesktopPath: kded/ktimezoned.desktop not found |
| 15:56.58 | thiago_home | plasma(26419)/kdecore (K*TimeZone*): KSystemTimeZones: ktimezoned initialize() D-Bus call failed: "No such object path '/modules/ktimezoned'" |
| 15:57.12 | Darkclaw66 | I changed the theme but still no dice |
| 15:57.37 | pinotree | it seems your installation was badly done |
| 15:57.51 | Darkclaw66 | :( |
| 15:58.10 | Darkclaw66 | im not sure why, kdebase4 installed successfully |
| 15:58.10 | thiago_home | yes |
| 15:58.16 | MZM | Darkclaw66: please check file permissions for /usr/share/kde4 etc |
| 15:58.19 | thiago_home | looks like your KDE 4 isn't properly installed |
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| 15:59.05 | Darkclaw66 | root wheel 755 for everything in /usr/local/kde4 |
| 15:59.30 | thiago_home | non-executables should be 644 |
| 15:59.47 | Darkclaw66 | drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 Oct 17 02:03 cat3 |
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| 16:00.09 | Darkclaw66 | -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 1129 Jan 4 2008 ksysguarddrc |
| 16:00.13 | Darkclaw66 | it looks right |
| 16:00.21 | thiago_home | now check the environment variables |
| 16:00.26 | thiago_home | is KDEDIR or KDEDIRS set? |
| 16:00.30 | Darkclaw66 | nope |
| 16:00.45 | thiago_home | does kde4-config --prefix show the correct path? |
| 16:01.03 | Darkclaw66 | you mean in the xstartup |
| 16:01.06 | Darkclaw66 | ? |
| 16:01.11 | thiago_home | in that environment, yes |
| 16:01.28 | Darkclaw66 | the only thing I have are three lines: PATH=/usr/local/kde4/bin:$PATH |
| 16:01.32 | Darkclaw66 | export PATH |
| 16:01.33 | Darkclaw66 | startkde4 |
| 16:01.37 | thiago_home | it's called startkde |
| 16:01.59 | thiago_home | but verify the environment there |
| 16:02.06 | thiago_home | when you run kde4-config --prefix, what do you see? |
| 16:02.47 | Darkclaw66 | it comes back with /usr/local/kde4 |
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| 16:03.26 | thiago_home | is that the correct value? |
| 16:03.26 | Darkclaw66 | yes, thats where the root path is for everything related to kde4 |
| 16:03.28 | thiago_home | is knotify4.desktop somewhere? |
| 16:03.34 | thiago_home | how about ktimezoned.desktop? |
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| 16:03.41 | Darkclaw66 | im not sure where to look to find those |
| 16:03.51 | thiago_home | inside /usr/local/kde4 |
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| 16:04.52 | NSaibot | does anyone has system freezes after switching off the special effects in systemsettings? |
| 16:05.22 | Darkclaw66 | thia, would that be located under the include folder? |
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| 16:05.46 | MZM | Darkclaw66: updatedb && slocate knotify4.desktop |
| 16:05.51 | thiago_home | NSaibot: it happens. But it should revert automatically. |
| 16:05.56 | thiago_home | Darkclaw66: no. Somewhere else. |
| 16:06.01 | thiago_home | Darkclaw66: I don't know where. Search for it. |
| 16:06.23 | NSaibot | thiago_home: revert? how? i have to hard reset. |
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| 16:06.53 | Darkclaw66 | thiago_home I see there is ./include/ktimezone.h |
| 16:07.06 | thiago_home | NSaibot: it should disable the effects after 15 seconds and go back. |
| 16:07.12 | thiago_home | NSaibot: unless, of course, your system crashed. |
| 16:07.19 | thiago_home | Darkclaw66: I said ktimezoned.desktop, not ktimezone.h |
| 16:07.34 | Darkclaw66 | I know but thats the only thing that came back from searching |
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| 16:07.43 | thiago_home | then your KDE 4 isn't properly installed |
| 16:08.01 | Darkclaw66 | wouldnt kdebase4 have those? |
| 16:08.08 | MZM | Darkclaw66: #freebsd |
| 16:08.27 | NSaibot | thiago_home: it doesn't happen if i turn the *on* ... it only happens if i turn them *off* ... complete freeze, like a snapshot ... no (re)action at all |
| 16:09.00 | thiago_home | Darkclaw66: yes, it would, if it were properly installed. |
| 16:09.00 | NSaibot | them* on |
| 16:09.00 | pinotree | #kde-freebsd, better |
| 16:09.00 | Darkclaw66 | I am sure it all installed correctly |
| 16:09.00 | thiago_home | NSaibot: oh... well, crash anyways |
| 16:09.07 | NSaibot | yea :) |
| 16:09.24 | thiago_home | Darkclaw66: I'm sure it wasn't, otherwise those files would be there. |
| 16:09.39 | jad4 | misses accessing a caendar by clicking on the taskbar clock :S |
| 16:10.02 | thiago_home | jad4: that feature is still there |
| 16:10.02 | Darkclaw66 | you must be right but it is unfortunate |
| 16:10.21 | thiago_home | though it disappears when you click somewhere else (not an always-on-top window, but a popup) |
| 16:10.23 | Darkclaw66 | this is my 2nd time reinstalling it and I get the same results |
| 16:10.26 | NSaibot | misses an eggtimer |
| 16:10.58 | Darkclaw66 | this is purely a KDE problem right? nothing to do with X11 or vnc? |
| 16:13.02 | Darkclaw66 | where is ktimezoned.desktop located for you |
| 16:13.05 | thiago_home | Darkclaw66: correct |
| 16:13.13 | Darkclaw66 | I just want to make sure I didn't overlook it |
| 16:13.15 | thiago_home | share/kde4/services/kded/ktimezoned.desktop |
| 16:13.57 | Darkclaw66 | well I am in that folder but I don't see ktimezoned.desktop |
| 16:14.32 | Darkclaw66 | theres several other things but not that |
| 16:14.54 | Darkclaw66 | can I salvage this installation? |
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| 16:15.59 | Darkclaw66 | hmm you know what |
| 16:16.18 | Darkclaw66 | theres two ports, kdebase4 and kdebase4-runtime |
| 16:16.56 | MZM | Darkclaw66: #kde-freebsd |
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| 16:17.41 | lontra | hi my brighness keeps dim immediately in kde4 regardless of what i tell it to do |
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| 16:21.37 | Darkclaw66 | is there anyone here who is running freebsd ? |
| 16:21.51 | thiago_home | have you asked the guys in the other channel? |
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| 16:21.57 | Darkclaw66 | yes... no response |
| 16:21.59 | thiago_home | I bet they are running FreeBSD |
| 16:22.01 | thiago_home | wait there |
| 16:22.06 | Darkclaw66 | i have been this entire time |
| 16:22.32 | thiago_home | build KDE from sources then |
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| 16:22.37 | thiago_home | forego the ports |
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| 16:22.46 | jad4 | thiago_home: it is? |
| 16:23.00 | Darkclaw66 | thiago it was from source :) |
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| 16:23.07 | thiago_home | Darkclaw66: did you use ports? |
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| 16:23.50 | Darkclaw66 | yep |
| 16:23.55 | thiago_home | then don't |
| 16:23.59 | thiago_home | build from sources, without ports |
| 16:24.16 | jad4 | thiago_home: how do you access the calendar then? I can't find it... |
| 16:24.28 | jad4 | thiago_home: I'm with kde 4.1.2 opensuse 10.3 |
| 16:24.29 | thiago_home | click on the clock |
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| 16:24.41 | jad4 | thiago_home: nothing happens... |
| 16:24.48 | thiago_home | a calendar pops up |
| 16:24.52 | Darkclaw66 | someone is the other channel responded and said that I needed to install kdebase4 and kdebase4-runtime for a minimal kde4 installation |
| 16:25.04 | jad4 | thiago_home: hmmm not here... |
| 16:25.19 | jad4 | thiago_home: maybe opensuse thing |
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| 16:25.25 | thiago_home | or maybe a 4.2 thing |
| 16:25.28 | thiago_home | (which is what I'm using) |
| 16:25.32 | jad4 | ah |
| 16:25.36 | jad4 | gotach |
| 16:25.39 | jad4 | gotcha |
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| 16:26.28 | aikie | is there a way to have a per account view(like in thunderbird) for mails in kmail? |
| 16:26.50 | Ace2016 | Why do i keep getting this: There was an error loading the module Cervisia.The diagnostics is: The service 'Cervisia' provides no library or the Library key is missing in the .desktop file. |
| 16:26.58 | Ace2016 | while using konqueror |
| 16:27.30 | thiago_home | I've got those too. I don't know the reason... |
| 16:27.42 | Darkclaw66 | im installing kdebase4-runtime, will let you guys know what happens... this will take a while |
| 16:28.57 | Ace2016 | only if you use gentoo ;P |
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| 16:41.23 | lontra | no matter what i do in kde 4.1.2 as far as setting brightness is concerned my laptop dims to the minimum ... is there somethign i can do or over ride? |
| 16:41.39 | raininja | lontra, not sure |
| 16:42.07 | lontra | i've tried guidance-p-m and kde4powersave to no avail |
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| 16:52.35 | lontra | what controls brightness in kde? |
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| 16:58.40 | gkiagia | lontra: monitor brightness is specific to the laptop and/or gpu that you have. kpowersave can control it, if it is supported by the kernel |
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| 16:59.15 | lontra | gkiagia: brightness works fine for me in gnome though ... so it must be a kde component |
| 16:59.18 | lontra | right? |
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| 16:59.26 | Digital-Pioneer | Hi. I used to use an app called KDict quite frequently to look up words... The distro I'm on now doesn't seem to have it packaged anywhere, so where do I get it? |
| 16:59.30 | gkiagia | lontra: ? |
| 17:00.02 | lontra | i can set brightness to full w/ guidance-power-manager then after 1-10 seconds it goes dim |
| 17:00.06 | lontra | regardless of what i do |
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| 17:00.13 | lontra | this is in mandriva |
| 17:00.18 | lontra | yes i've asked there |
| 17:00.30 | gkiagia | that's specific to guidance then |
| 17:00.36 | gkiagia | maybe it's a bug in guidance |
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| 17:00.52 | lontra | no but it's not ... b/c if i set the brightness in kde w/ kde4powersave same thing happens |
| 17:01.01 | lontra | same thing with gnome-power-manager in kde4 |
| 17:01.48 | gkiagia | strange, afaik there is nothing in kde controlling brightness |
| 17:02.07 | lontra | no power setting manager solid or something? |
| 17:02.16 | gkiagia | except if mandriva has backported powerdevil |
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| 17:02.36 | gkiagia | maybe check if powerdevil is there. systemsettings->advanced->power management |
| 17:02.38 | lontra | i don't see it there |
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| 17:03.36 | gkiagia | I don't know.. |
| 17:04.03 | gkiagia | works for me :) |
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| 17:04.50 | illogic-al | bah. Camp KDE's going to be in Negril. I was hoping it would be in Ocho Rios. |
| 17:04.53 | lontra | crap kpowersave from kde3 doens't work either |
| 17:05.08 | gkiagia | lontra: it works |
| 17:05.13 | gkiagia | I use it |
| 17:05.15 | lontra | well for me that is |
| 17:05.17 | illogic-al | Ah well. I'll just have to find some way to make it to the city. |
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| 17:12.40 | mernil | hi all |
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| 17:13.57 | mernil | how long does it take to compile all of kde? with a 3Mhz Xeon and 1.5 gig memory? |
| 17:14.13 | mernil | 3 Ghz Xeon processor |
| 17:14.16 | luke-jr | probably a few years |
| 17:14.28 | Hydrogen | ... |
| 17:14.30 | Hydrogen | more like |
| 17:14.32 | Hydrogen | a day or two |
| 17:14.48 | mernil | okay |
| 17:15.42 | nogagplz | mernil: Took me from about 3am until 11am to build 3.5.10 with -j8 on a Q6600 |
| 17:15.47 | luke-jr | Hydrogen: my response was to 3MHz |
| 17:15.57 | nogagplz | That was the whole lot, not just the basics |
| 17:16.04 | mernil | nogagplz: oki |
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| 17:20.46 | lontra_ | gkiagia: i figured out my problem |
| 17:21.21 | lontra_ | what package is responsible for kscreensaver in kde4? |
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| 17:22.51 | gkiagia | lontra_: kdebase-workspace I guess |
| 17:23.44 | lontra_ | gkiagia: my issues was that kscreensaver kept dimming my screen |
| 17:24.19 | gkiagia | strange... |
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| 17:25.10 | gkiagia | maybe mandriva has foolishly backported some new kscreensaver feature to dim the screen? |
| 17:25.27 | lontra_ | who knows |
| 17:25.32 | lontra_ | anyways i'm happy now ;) |
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| 17:38.04 | DevilChaos | hi guys im having problems after an update with debian im running kde 3.5 and i have lost the ability to look through files and folder in saying that i can view them with kdirstat what is the prog that i am missing to fix please |
| 17:38.06 | DevilChaos | ? |
| 17:39.09 | DevilChaos | ie it opens kdirstat when i click on a folder on my dektop |
| 17:40.17 | DevilChaos | this is a strange one for me because it has always worked no need to know what it was as its packaged wirth kde ?????# |
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| 17:47.11 | Nazcafan | hello |
| 17:47.33 | Nazcafan | I am trying to add the documentation to kbibtex |
| 17:47.47 | Nazcafan | I downloaded the alpha release |
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| 17:48.00 | Nazcafan | compiled it and everything |
| 17:48.31 | Nazcafan | but kde help center can not find the index page of kbibtex help |
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| 17:48.52 | Nazcafan | could anyone point me to the appropriate channel for help with that? |
| 17:48.59 | |younix| | hello |
| 17:49.01 | Nazcafan | (or irc server) |
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| 17:50.20 | crazy_pete | how do kde apps find or display their icons? I am running icewm (I realise this is more of an icewm question) and kde apps (afaik only kde apps) fail to render their icon. When i run konsole i get only a black square in the upper left window corner |
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| 17:52.08 | doomster | the communication between an application and the WM is some standard, but it's not completely implemented in all WMs. |
| 17:52.12 | cronos79 | i thought i heard some other people talking about that and said there adding more support in 4.2 for shortcuts/icons |
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| 18:01.17 | ngirard | Hi all. Does anybody knows if kmail can retrieve a message given its message-it via dcop ? |
| 18:01.34 | ngirard | message-id ^ |
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| 18:08.59 | mernil | I need a simple programme for doing internet radio? |
| 18:09.40 | mernil | can't remember the name .. it ends with "cast" something |
| 18:09.57 | doomster | icecast? |
| 18:10.05 | mernil | maybe so .. thanks |
| 18:10.47 | mernil | not what i was thinking of, but i think it does the same thing |
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| 18:14.33 | ksvladimir | Is there any way to make konqueror open one instance of an application when clicking on multiple files ? |
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| 18:15.14 | ksvladimir | That is when several files are selected and I'm pressing enter, konqueror launches separate instance of application for each file. Is there any way to change it ? |
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| 18:15.39 | aseigo | ksvladimir: that's up to the application |
| 18:15.49 | aseigo | ksvladimir: konqi really has nothing to do with that |
| 18:15.58 | Darkclaw66 | im trying to logout from KDE but its not working |
| 18:16.01 | ksvladimir | aseigo: hm, how can application control it ? |
| 18:16.28 | ksvladimir | aseigo: (in my case the application is under my control and I can modify it) |
| 18:16.35 | aseigo | ksvladimir: some apps are designed for "one process, many windows" |
| 18:16.43 | ksvladimir | KUniqueApplication ? |
| 18:16.49 | aseigo | ksvladimir: right.. |
| 18:16.51 | ksvladimir | aseigo: ok, I understand |
| 18:16.55 | ksvladimir | aseigo: thanks a lot ! |
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| 18:20.53 | Darkclaw66 | I got this error I am unable to fix |
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| 18:21.12 | Darkclaw66 | virtual QStringList Solid::Backends::Hal::HalManager::allDevices() error: "org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.Disconnected" |
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| 18:21.29 | Darkclaw66 | anyone know what thats about? |
| 18:21.52 | Darkclaw66 | and there are other errors related to that |
| 18:21.53 | Darkclaw66 | knotify(43406) Phonon::KdePlatformPlugin::createBackend: using backend: "Xine" |
| 18:21.53 | Darkclaw66 | $freedesktop.DBus.Error.Disconnected" |
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| 18:22.12 | g2g591 | Darkclaw66: hmm whats the output of ls /var/run/dbus ? |
| 18:22.44 | Darkclaw66 | its an empty directory |
| 18:23.05 | g2g591 | Darkclaw66: ok, then run (as root) /etc/init.d/dbus start |
| 18:23.42 | Darkclaw66 | hmm its not installed |
| 18:23.45 | nick01 | I configured kde4's kmail for gmail, I get an extra gmail dir that it wont let me delete cause it says its not on the server, how do I get rid of it ? |
| 18:24.06 | Darkclaw66 | is that required? |
| 18:24.17 | g2g591 | Darkclaw66: yep |
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| 18:24.47 | Darkclaw66 | okay I'll install it run kde again and see if there are any other errors thx |
| 18:25.36 | peace_pipe | what would i put in .xinitrc to make kde start up when i type startx |
| 18:25.41 | peace_pipe | i always login from console |
| 18:25.52 | peace_pipe | startkde, or simply kde doesn't seem to do it |
| 18:25.57 | cronos79 | speaking of root password i just installed Kubuntu and it never asked me for a root password installing it and if i su root i dont know the pass |
| 18:25.58 | g2g591 | peace_pipe: exec startkde |
| 18:26.06 | peace_pipe | g2g591: hmm |
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| 18:26.31 | g2g591 | cronos79: Kubuntu uses sudo by default (and has the root account locked) just run sudo passwd root to set a root password |
| 18:26.31 | pinotree | without exec |
| 18:26.32 | bbuss | cronos79: it's your user password |
| 18:26.43 | pinotree | peace_pipe: just "startkde" |
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| 18:27.01 | cronos79 | ok ty everyone :) |
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| 18:28.49 | Darkclaw66 | hmm its saying dbus is already installed |
| 18:29.34 | g2g591 | Darkclaw66: /etc/init.d/dbus start |
| 18:29.36 | zeltak | hi, just heard the floss weekly interview! great to hear kde on the twit network ;-) |
| 18:29.40 | zeltak | great interview! |
| 18:32.10 | Darkclaw66 | g2g591 is it important that I have this running? |
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| 18:33.15 | pinotree | Darkclaw66: yes, dbus is mandatory for kde4 |
| 18:33.30 | Darkclaw66 | kk |
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| 18:34.02 | Darkclaw66 | okay its started |
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| 18:35.03 | cronos79 | humm i might try and install gentoo again and put kde on it. I learned more about linux installing that then anything else |
| 18:35.29 | g2g591 | cronos79: mmm gentoo.... its mostly a waste of time.... all that time compliling |
| 18:35.31 | Darkclaw66 | okay next error |
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| 18:36.12 | Darkclaw66 | QStringList Solid::Backends::Hal::HalManager::findDeviceByDeviceInterface(const Solid::DeviceInterface::Type&) error: "org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown" |
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| 18:36.30 | arti | hi |
| 18:36.42 | cronos79 | thats why i got ride of it lol. but this kubonto is so automated its like windows and i dont learn the inner workings that well .. is there something good inbetween |
| 18:36.49 | Darkclaw66 | also its saying Could not start kmserver |
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| 18:37.04 | g2g591 | cronos79: Arch is pretty good |
| 18:37.06 | doomster | cronos79: I'd suggest Debian. |
| 18:37.10 | nogagplz | cronos79: Try CRUX |
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| 18:37.26 | nogagplz | rofl... |
| 18:37.44 | g2g591 | try them all |
| 18:37.50 | cronos79 | good thing i have lots of harddrive space lol |
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| 18:39.13 | Darkclaw66 | what does this error mean QStringList Solid::Backends::Hal::HalManager::findDeviceByDeviceInterface(const Solid::DeviceInterface::Type&) error: "org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown" |
| 18:39.13 | g2g591 | arch... it always has upto date software ... Debian (stable) uses ancient software... debian (testing) uses almost up to date software, debian (unstable) uses stuff so bleeding edge that 60% of the time its broken |
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| 18:40.31 | doomster | Debian/testing is a good choice IMHO. Debian is btw the distro *buntu is based on, so lots of familiar stuff there. |
| 18:40.38 | cronos79 | i see im going to have to learn a new programming lang also. I have been using c# on windows vista. always good to learn more stuff anywasy |
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| 18:41.45 | cronos79 | whats a good lang to learn for linux? c++ java or? |
| 18:42.00 | g2g591 | cronos79: well... lots of stuff on linux is in c++ |
| 18:42.02 | MZM | C |
| 18:42.02 | doomster | Python. |
| 18:42.28 | doomster | learning C++ is something that takes years. |
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| 18:43.04 | cronos79 | first thing i found out is i will never fully learn a lang and to use google on things i need |
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| 18:43.14 | cronos79 | at least with windows c# programming |
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| 18:45.12 | sysop2 | hi guys running 3.51 on debian lenny, and I have a problem that sometimes knetworkmanager will start saying that networkmanager is not running. I cant find anything called networkmanager to run or restart and the only thing that fixes it is a reboot. any idea? |
| 18:45.13 | cronos79 | well i should say not learn a lang but all the lib's for it |
| 18:46.02 | Darkclaw66 | another error kbuildsycoca4(63679)/kdecore (KSycoca) KSycocaPrivate::openDatabase: Trying to open ksycoca from "/var/tmp/kdecache-andre/ksycoca4" |
| 18:46.29 | Darkclaw66 | it created a .core file |
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| 18:50.08 | pedepy | so ... every .. i mean, every app crashes on exit .. no exception |
| 18:50.10 | pedepy | whats up |
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| 18:51.06 | doomster | kde apps? gui apps? all? |
| 18:51.07 | Darkclaw66 | is there a reason why I am unable to logout from KDE? |
| 18:52.00 | pedepy | kde apps |
| 18:52.10 | Darkclaw66 | PorterDuff modes not supported on device |
| 18:52.12 | Darkclaw66 | how can I fix this? |
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| 18:55.22 | Darkclaw66 | anyone here? |
| 18:55.38 | cronos79 | I am but i know less then you prob |
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| 18:55.44 | raininja | im here but i cannot help you, except to say |
| 18:55.49 | raininja | try to fix it yourself |
| 18:55.57 | raininja | or be patient |
| 18:56.00 | Darkclaw66 | what do you think im doing |
| 18:56.10 | Darkclaw66 | im not dancing naked |
| 18:56.20 | raininja | OH NOES |
| 18:56.21 | cronos79 | when i have problems like that i google the error msg and usaly find a fix |
| 18:56.22 | doomster | I'd throw the error message at google to find out if someone encountered the same problems |
| 18:56.29 | Darkclaw66 | im already doing that |
| 18:57.06 | cronos79 | lol what would we do w/o google |
| 18:57.21 | Darkclaw66 | google doesnt have all the answers |
| 18:57.22 | raininja | lycos or yahoo or |
| 18:57.37 | raininja | one of hundreds of other engines |
| 18:57.42 | cronos79 | i never used lycos i'll have to check it out |
| 18:57.45 | Darkclaw66 | its only helpful if there are other people who have reported the error and theres solutions |
| 18:57.48 | Darkclaw66 | in this error there arent |
| 18:57.57 | Darkclaw66 | hence I am here asking for help. |
| 18:58.04 | raininja | whats the error? |
| 18:58.05 | Darkclaw66 | thanks for your suggestion for googling though |
| 18:58.08 | Darkclaw66 | scroll up |
| 18:58.30 | raininja | QT? |
| 18:58.39 | raininja | you should ask in #kde-devel |
| 18:58.43 | raininja | or |
| 18:58.46 | raininja | #QT |
| 18:58.50 | Darkclaw66 | no |
| 18:58.55 | Darkclaw66 | QPainter::setCompositionMode: PorterDuff modes not supported on device |
| 18:59.16 | raininja | its kinda hard to tell exactly what happened from that too |
| 19:00.00 | Darkclaw66 | if someone can tell me to disable PorterDuff, this will get resolved |
| 19:00.10 | raininja | hmm android |
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| 19:01.09 | raininja | Darkclaw66, what is that error from? |
| 19:01.14 | raininja | what application? |
| 19:01.31 | Darkclaw66 | its from the bottom left corner when I scroll over the 1, 2, 3 4 |
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| 19:02.36 | cronos79 | on the task bar? |
| 19:02.43 | Darkclaw66 | yes, it looks a little blurry |
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| 19:03.59 | cronos79 | wish i knew more :/ just started using linux 3 days ago. if it was stupid windows i could prob help |
| 19:04.08 | raininja | Darkclaw66, disable compositing |
| 19:04.15 | Darkclaw66 | how do I disable compositing |
| 19:05.46 | raininja | System Settings > Desktop > Desktop effects button |
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| 19:06.19 | Darkclaw66 | all effects are disabled |
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| 19:06.22 | raininja | not sure if that will help your problem |
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| 19:06.44 | loulouloulou | hi all does anyone know who to prevent messages larger than X from being download in imap in KMAIL |
| 19:06.57 | Darkclaw66 | it says in that window, "Compositioning is not supported on your system." "Required X extensions (XComposite and XDamage) are not available. |
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| 19:08.30 | Darkclaw66 | where is XComposite and XDamage located? |
| 19:09.29 | raininja | Darkclaw66, do you have locate on your linux (i assume gnu/linux) |
| 19:09.41 | Darkclaw66 | I tried looking no dice |
| 19:09.56 | raininja | do you have xrender installed? |
| 19:10.04 | raininja | what distro? |
| 19:10.15 | Darkclaw66 | fbsd |
| 19:11.10 | raininja | does your modular xorg package list have an xrender package? |
| 19:11.17 | raininja | ports? |
| 19:11.35 | raininja | or is it pkgsrc |
| 19:12.09 | Darkclaw66 | libXrender-0.9.4 is installed |
| 19:12.14 | raininja | hmm |
| 19:12.40 | Darkclaw66 | how do I find which package XComposite and XDamage is in? |
| 19:12.54 | raininja | for fbsd? no clue |
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| 19:13.07 | Darkclaw66 | theres no guarantee even if I install them it will solve this error |
| 19:13.15 | raininja | i think its in xrender though |
| 19:13.29 | flatmanXk | Hallo ! Is it possible to remove mails or at least my names in the mails from the KDE Mailing List ? |
| 19:13.47 | raininja | did you search x.org Dark_Apostrophe |
| 19:14.01 | raininja | err |
| 19:14.08 | raininja | Darkclaw66, |
| 19:14.31 | Darkclaw66 | didn't return any results |
| 19:14.43 | raininja | for xdamage? |
| 19:14.51 | raininja | XDamage* |
| 19:15.14 | Darkclaw66 | I looked for XComposite |
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| 19:16.33 | Darkclaw66 | the only problem im seeing is the taskbar because its using the stupid PorterDuff crap |
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| 19:18.06 | raininja | Xrender adds Porter-Duff composition as a basic display operation |
| 19:18.07 | gsteinert | where in the svn repository can i find gtk-qt-engine? |
| 19:18.21 | raininja | qt-copy? |
| 19:18.32 | Darkclaw66 | I dont know what to do |
| 19:18.50 | raininja | so what exactly happens? |
| 19:18.50 | pinotree | gsteinert: nowhere, we don't develop it |
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| 19:19.04 | gsteinert | pinotree: ah, any idea where i can get it? |
| 19:19.06 | raininja | finally a dev |
| 19:19.10 | pinotree | nope, sorry |
| 19:19.23 | gsteinert | pinotree: ok, thanks anyway |
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| 19:19.38 | pusling | pinotree: you won't develop gtk-qt-engine ? |
| 19:19.47 | pinotree | nope |
| 19:20.14 | pusling | if it wasn't so crashy, it is a nice idea. |
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| 19:25.11 | eljefe | <PROTECTED> |
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| 19:27.58 | manish | I want to install MAC OS X theme on Kubuntu 8.04. have been trying since days, No result. The KDM Theme manager says "Its not a valid KDM theme" can some body help with this |
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| 19:28.34 | thiago_home | eljefe: run kdm |
| 19:29.03 | eljefe | "only root wants to run kdm" |
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| 19:29.14 | pusling | eljefe: as root /etc/init.d/kdm restart |
| 19:29.23 | eljefe | cool thanks |
| 19:31.55 | manish | Is this IRC for asking support if somebody has not found the required result in google and altavista |
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| 19:32.42 | manish | sos: please help |
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| 19:33.45 | manish | Thank you for your non supportiveness - good night all |
| 19:33.55 | Heiki | manish: yes, you can ask here, but thereâs not always people to answer your question |
| 19:34.26 | Heiki | manish: itâs Saturday night, people might be doing other things right now (: |
| 19:34.33 | thiago_home | manish: I saw your question. |
| 19:34.39 | manish | but i have been asking here for days even googling for days |
| 19:34.49 | manish | now i am real frustrated |
| 19:34.50 | thiago_home | maybe no one installs KDM themes |
| 19:34.55 | thiago_home | I've never done that |
| 19:35.06 | thiago_home | in fact, last I remember KDM didn't support themes |
| 19:35.23 | manish | sorry for my misbehave |
| 19:35.32 | manish | so how can i install Mac OS theme |
| 19:35.39 | manish | is there any other wat |
| 19:35.42 | manish | way |
| 19:35.45 | thiago_home | where did you download the theme from? |
| 19:36.10 | manish | different sources : google and google |
| 19:36.20 | thiago_home | google usually doesn't offer downloads |
| 19:36.27 | thiago_home | not www.google.com anyways |
| 19:36.29 | manish | no the blogs do |
| 19:36.32 | thiago_home | so, where did you download it from? |
| 19:36.50 | manish | wait i will give you some of the links |
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| 19:37.05 | thiago_home | are you sure the things you downloaded are KDM themes? |
| 19:37.18 | manish | http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/MacOS-X+Aqua+Theme?content=13548 |
| 19:37.23 | manish | how do i know that |
| 19:37.35 | thiago_home | I doubt gnome-look has KDM temes |
| 19:37.53 | thiago_home | so, I repeat my question: are you sure that the things you downloaded are KDM themes? |
| 19:37.59 | manish | they say that install this theme in Kubuntu |
| 19:38.41 | _doomster_ | "Type: GTK 2.x Theme/Style" |
| 19:38.46 | thiago_home | well, I don't see anything on that page that applies to KDE or KDM |
| 19:38.56 | thiago_home | if you want to use KDM, you have to find a KDM theme |
| 19:39.27 | manish | http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/OSX-Tiger+theme?content=56577 |
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| 19:39.31 | manish | check this out |
| 19:39.36 | thiago_home | gnome-look.org will not contain KDE or KDM things |
| 19:39.39 | thiago_home | stop looking at that website |
| 19:39.50 | manish | on that page the procedure was there to install OS X theme |
| 19:40.05 | pinotree | same type: Type: GTK 2.x Theme/Style |
| 19:40.07 | manish | these are the pages i browsed today |
| 19:40.18 | pinotree | manish: you cannot install a GTK theme for KDE |
| 19:40.33 | pedepy | pinotree: my kde complains about icons it cant fidn .. therefore always takes an extra 10 seconds to load ... any ideas? |
| 19:40.39 | pinotree | this is not even for GDM |
| 19:40.42 | manish | ok so how do i install GTK Theme in KDE |
| 19:40.47 | manish | is there a way |
| 19:40.49 | thiago_home | manish: you don't |
| 19:40.51 | pinotree | no |
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| 19:40.53 | thiago_home | you install KDE themes in KDE |
| 19:40.56 | pinotree | pedepy: "my kde"? |
| 19:41.01 | pinotree | what in kde? |
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| 19:41.05 | pedepy | kde |
| 19:41.06 | thiago_home | GTK themes are for GTK applications |
| 19:41.25 | pinotree | ... |
| 19:41.25 | pedepy | when i start kde it complains it cant find icons |
| 19:41.25 | Darkclaw66 | does anyone know of a good vnc program? is realvnc the most popular? |
| 19:41.31 | thiago_home | Darkclaw66: krdc |
| 19:41.33 | pedepy | also every app crashes on close |
| 19:41.38 | pedepy | every single one of em |
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| 19:41.43 | manish | ok does that mean there is no way to make my Kubuntu look like OS X |
| 19:41.48 | pinotree | pedepy: can you paste the output in a pastebin? |
| 19:41.50 | thiago_home | manish: no, it doesn't mean that |
| 19:41.54 | pedepy | and plasmoids dont show their resize 'tool' |
| 19:41.54 | Darkclaw66 | hmm I dont see krdc |
| 19:41.57 | thiago_home | manish: it means you can't use GTK themes for KDE applications |
| 19:41.58 | pedepy | i could yes |
| 19:42.03 | thiago_home | Darkclaw66: I see it. |
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| 19:42.28 | Darkclaw66 | it seems tightvnc is not the best choice and I think its time to use a new one |
| 19:42.32 | pusling | manish: if it is kde3 kubuntu, do apt-get install kwin-baghira |
| 19:42.33 | Ace2016 | Hi all, need help |
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| 19:42.40 | thiago_home | Darkclaw66: krdc is a VNC client, not server. |
| 19:42.45 | Ace2016 | my F7 key has become bound to volume up and i can't unbind it |
| 19:42.46 | manish | tell me some thing : What do i need to search to install OS X themes in my Kubuntu |
| 19:42.49 | pedepy | well .. later cause im downloading stuff |
| 19:42.49 | Darkclaw66 | I need a server |
| 19:43.01 | Ace2016 | i made a shortcut key and used F7 as an example and its become permenant and i can't stop it |
| 19:43.02 | pinotree | krfb |
| 19:43.06 | manish | its not a OS X Theme as far as i have seen |
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| 19:43.27 | pedepy | pinotree: on to problem two, about my plasmoids not being resizable? |
| 19:43.31 | Ace2016 | i've tried everything i can, disabled the hotkey daemon, changed settings in kmix, reassigned F7 to other things, but nothing has worked sofar |
| 19:43.32 | Ace2016 | so far |
| 19:43.33 | pusling | manish: baghira if kde3 |
| 19:43.39 | Ace2016 | I'm using kde4 |
| 19:43.49 | pinotree | pedepy: don't mix up things, one problem at a time -- console output? |
| 19:43.53 | Ace2016 | actually i think i'll wipe all the kde4 settings and start again |
| 19:43.54 | Ace2016 | pita |
| 19:44.14 | pedepy | pinotree: i gotta shut down kde in order to get that and i aint doing that for another hour, cause of downloads |
| 19:44.34 | Ace2016 | brb, i have the feeling this'll most likely fail but i'm quietly optimistic |
| 19:45.34 | manish | mine is KDE 3.5 |
| 19:45.41 | manish | what should i type |
| 19:46.11 | thiago_home | 21:42 < pusling> manish: if it is kde3 kubuntu, do apt-get install kwin-baghira |
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| 19:46.29 | manish | ok kwin baghira is installing |
| 19:46.33 | manish | but is it OS X |
| 19:46.38 | manish | can u please tell me |
| 19:46.42 | loulouloulou | hi all does anyone know who to prevent messages larger than X from being download in imap in KMAIL |
| 19:46.58 | manish | and what do i apply it when it is install |
| 19:46.59 | thiago_home | manish: if you want OS X, I suggest you go to an Apple Store and buy it. |
| 19:47.00 | manish | ed |
| 19:47.02 | pusling | manish: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=502157 - and please be less aggressive. |
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| 19:47.11 | manish | sorry |
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| 19:47.17 | peeps_ | how do i set the middle mouse button to window-list? |
| 19:47.21 | manish | i am just exited |
| 19:47.24 | illogic-al | manish: it's close to an old (panther) version of os x |
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| 19:47.36 | manish | k |
| 19:47.44 | manish | thanks |
| 19:47.56 | illogic-al | but i agree w/ thiago. macs rock :-) |
| 19:48.00 | manish | so how do i apply it now |
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| 19:48.10 | pusling | manish: kcontrol|systemsettings |
| 19:48.30 | manish | and one more thing please tell me how to find such themes which are compatible with my Kubuntu |
| 19:48.36 | thiago_home | manish: kde-look.org |
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| 19:49.14 | manish | are there only KDE Themes ?? |
| 19:49.20 | pusling | manish: apt-cache search kde-style and kwin-style |
| 19:49.29 | thiago_home | yes, kde-look.org will contain KDE themes |
| 19:49.33 | thiago_home | and more KDE-related stuff |
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| 19:50.05 | manish | can i use iKDM theme manager to install the theme i just downloaded |
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| 19:51.05 | manish | what was that command for |
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| 19:51.38 | pusling | manish: looking for styling of your kde in the available repository. |
| 19:52.20 | manish | but it gives wiered messages |
| 19:52.24 | manish | you wanna see that |
| 19:52.26 | manish | ? |
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| 19:53.27 | pusling | wired messages ? |
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| 19:54.38 | manish | finally i have opened system settings now how do i install the theme please |
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| 19:54.58 | manish | weired messages |
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| 19:55.43 | pusling | you install the theme using apt-get .. and if you have installed it, just choose it in the look and feel => style (or something like that) |
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| 19:56.49 | bfrog | how is kde4 on the various netbooks? |
| 19:57.13 | bfrog | I somehow imagine the panel takes up lots of valuable screen space? |
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| 19:57.24 | pusling | bfrog: the panel is optional |
| 19:57.32 | bfrog | thats very true... |
| 19:57.44 | bfrog | probably should just disable that on a netbook |
| 19:57.45 | pusling | and resizable |
| 19:57.54 | pusling | i don't use the panel on my Eee 7xx series |
| 19:57.56 | bfrog | picked up an aspire one, seems really nice |
| 19:58.14 | bfrog | nice |
| 19:58.24 | pusling | rooted a aspire one in a computer store today |
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| 19:58.36 | bfrog | thats probably what I'll do as well, just not use the panel |
| 19:58.37 | manish | i does not install icon theme i suppose |
| 19:58.40 | manish | am i right |
| 19:58.41 | manish | ?? |
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| 19:59.07 | pusling | bfrog: and with kde4.2 you have the possibility of panel autohiding |
| 19:59.10 | bfrog | I bought the windows version for the extra ram and non-ss drive |
| 19:59.40 | bfrog | not using linpus or whatever the ssd version comes with |
| 19:59.51 | bfrog | nice, is that coming out soon? |
| 19:59.59 | bfrog | december or so right? |
| 20:00.11 | pinotree | this is not a marketing channel |
| 20:00.11 | pusling | bfrog: acer in denmark stops selling the linux version because it is much more popular. Of course it is. it has much more ram and more space and is not much more expensive |
| 20:00.36 | pusling | pinotree: a kde marketing channel ? |
| 20:01.02 | bfrog | yeah exactly |
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| 20:01.15 | manish | just one more thing |
| 20:01.27 | bfrog | they throw linux on the one with crappier hardware for $20 less, thats not going to sell em when the one for $20 more has 2x ram and a real 120gb drive |
| 20:01.30 | manish | how do i install kde themes downloaded from kde-org |
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| 20:01.45 | bfrog | so yeah, I agree |
| 20:02.07 | bfrog | asus did a better job with the hardware being closer to comparable I think |
| 20:02.13 | bfrog | though I haven't looked too closely |
| 20:02.48 | pinotree | manish: in most of the cases there are instructions that explain how to |
| 20:03.15 | pinotree | manish: there should be general instructions on kde-look.org about installing the various stuff you download from it |
| 20:03.57 | pusling | bfrog: yeah. asus removed 8G storage from the windows version. |
| 20:04.12 | pinotree | bfrog, pusling: #kde-chat please |
| 20:04.23 | manish | ok if i am stuck somewhere again in the future and am not able to google the solution can i come in here |
| 20:04.26 | bfrog | np |
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| 20:04.34 | pinotree | manish: sure you can |
| 20:04.37 | manish | thanks for everything guys and specially pulsing and pinotree |
| 20:04.43 | manish | have a nice weekend |
| 20:04.45 | pinotree | notes he did nothing |
| 20:06.29 | Ace2016 | :( |
| 20:06.35 | Ace2016 | where does kde4 store the colour scheme |
| 20:06.36 | Ace2016 | ? |
| 20:06.55 | Ace2016 | it doesn't seem to be in .kde/share/apps/kdisplay as in kde3 |
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| 20:07.54 | pinotree | $(kde4-config --localprefix)/share/apps/kdeglobals iirc |
| 20:08.09 | Ace2016 | oh it stores it there |
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| 20:11.10 | Ace2016 | where does qtcurve put its settings, can't find it |
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| 20:14.14 | jad4 | now has 2GB ram instea of 512MB |
| 20:14.23 | jad4 | KDE 4 feels much lighter now :) |
| 20:14.32 | Ace2016 | what graphics card do you have? |
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| 20:14.38 | jad4 | ati |
| 20:14.58 | Ace2016 | you had to have had an ati card to notice |
| 20:15.08 | jad4 | why? |
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| 20:15.32 | Ace2016 | nvidia 2d performance sucks so kde4 on nvidia cards suck |
| 20:15.46 | Ace2016 | can't even alt+f2 and get to konversation without having to wait for it to render |
| 20:16.05 | jazka | Ace2016: and you're using the lastest drivers? |
| 20:16.06 | Ace2016 | and resizing windows is also mindblowingly slow compared to compiz-fusion |
| 20:16.09 | jad4 | yeah I've heard of it, funny that when I got my laptop I really wanted nvidia because by then their drivers were mych better :) |
| 20:16.24 | jad4 | turned out to be a good thing to have an ati |
| 20:16.31 | jazka | jad4: and try games :) |
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| 20:16.48 | Ace2016 | jazka: yea i had the latest drivers, 177.80 was better than 173.xx but i ended up using compiz fusion so i returned back to 173.xx |
| 20:17.03 | jad4 | in any case even without composite it's much better, loading times are quite good now, before it was using swap all the time |
| 20:17.14 | jad4 | jazka: I rarelly touch games :S |
| 20:17.23 | jazka | okay, then it won't really matter ^^ |
| 20:17.32 | Ace2016 | you don't play knetwalk? |
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| 20:17.50 | jad4 | I don't even know what knetwalk is |
| 20:17.55 | Ace2016 | run it and see |
| 20:18.15 | jad4 | no such thing installed |
| 20:18.29 | Ace2016 | then install it |
| 20:18.43 | Ace2016 | its awesome lots of people love it |
| 20:18.51 | jad4 | I'll just goolgle it for a start ;) |
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| 20:18.53 | Ace2016 | we need an online scoring system |
| 20:19.18 | Ace2016 | brb |
| 20:19.57 | jad4 | seems nice |
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| 20:21.55 | ngirard | Hi all. Does anybody know if kmail can retrieve a message given its message-id via dcop ? |
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| 20:23.59 | Ace2016 | i'm back |
| 20:24.08 | Ace2016 | brb |
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| 20:26.54 | neverendingo | anyone knows if the zoom out functionality is broken in kubuntu intrepid or if it was really removed? don`t think so, but just to make sure |
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| 20:36.12 | doggymenz | i installed kde 4.1.1, i have gf8600, and kde was slow |
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| 20:36.24 | doggymenz | maximize/minimize windows, etc lagged |
| 20:37.05 | Darkclaw66 | X Error: BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes) 8 |
| 20:37.14 | Darkclaw66 | whats up with these many errors with kde 4.1 |
| 20:37.18 | Darkclaw66 | its killin me |
| 20:37.43 | Darkclaw66 | QDBusConnection received a message of type 2 that it shouldn't have |
| 20:37.47 | Darkclaw66 | fail.. |
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| 20:39.00 | nick01 | anybody able to use the gmail smtp server with kmail here ? |
| 20:40.25 | Darkclaw66 | all I can say is that KDE 3.x was running perfectly but as soon as I switched to KDE 4.x its been buggy as hell |
| 20:41.10 | Darkclaw66 | im going to try installing the entire KDE 4.1 package and see if that works, if it still gives problems im going back to 3.x |
| 20:41.23 | nick01 | all it says as an error is that it cant send the message :( |
| 20:41.40 | nick01 | 4.1.2 hereâ |
| 20:42.08 | ngirard | The dcop call I'm looking for seems to exist actually |
| 20:42.21 | ngirard | dcop kmail KMailIface showMail |
| 20:42.26 | ngirard | it's documented here |
| 20:42.31 | ngirard | http://api.kde.org/3.5-api/kdepim-apidocs/kmail/html/classKMailIface.html#ecba17ec5e088150d87568f085fce196 |
| 20:42.48 | ngirard | but I can't get dcop to call it |
| 20:43.03 | ngirard | any thoughts ? |
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| 20:47.01 | psypointer | hi |
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| 20:47.49 | psypointer | i saw that developing kde apps with java is almost impossible because there are no working language bindings for kde4. is there a technical reason for this? (mono does work with gtk perfectly..) |
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| 20:48.48 | nick01 | heh, finally got kmail to work |
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| 20:55.42 | power | hello |
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| 20:56.05 | power | i want support for kopete |
| 20:56.15 | psypointer | use pidgin ;-) |
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| 20:56.32 | power | and with the webcam and the file transfer |
| 20:56.33 | power | ? |
| 20:56.36 | power | for yahoo |
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| 20:57.44 | arikonm | hi all! I've reinstalled my pc, and now it seems KDE 3.5.9 doesn't want to automount usb discs. what part of KDE am I missing? or kernel 2.6.18-6-686 doesn't support that yet? |
| 20:58.23 | arikonm | (I'm using that ancient stuff because I haven't got time yet to compile 2.6.23. ndiswrapper is broken above) |
| 20:58.26 | pusling | psypointer: there is qtjambi. and there is mono bindings for kde. and qt bindings. and ruby bindings. and php bindings and python bindings and lua bindings |
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| 20:58.45 | psypointer | pusling: qtjambi does not use the kdelibs.. |
| 20:58.47 | psypointer | thats my problem |
| 20:58.54 | psypointer | i want to write a native kde application :) |
| 20:59.15 | pusling | psypointer: the java bindings for kde needs developers I think. |
| 20:59.53 | psypointer | mh, i'm only a java developer. i would support the development of those bindings - but my c(++) knowledge is not so high |
| 20:59.54 | pusling | psypointer: but you have the other list of languages + c++. you should be able to find something |
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| 21:08.53 | Darkclaw66 | how can I run KDE without using tightvnc? |
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| 21:18.25 | thiago_home | Darkclaw66: most people do |
| 21:19.30 | Darkclaw66 | Okay then why does kde's plasma bar be blurry for me |
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| 21:19.57 | Darkclaw66 | http://img84.imageshack.us/my.php?image=blurrysshc7.jpg |
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| 21:21.14 | thiago_home | probably VNC compression |
| 21:21.16 | thiago_home | try without VNC |
| 21:21.23 | Darkclaw66 | how do I try without vnc? |
| 21:21.36 | thiago_home | sit in front of that computer and log in |
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| 21:22.02 | Darkclaw66 | can I run startkde from the prompt? |
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| 21:22.17 | thiago_home | yes, provided that the X server is already running |
| 21:22.31 | thiago_home | i.e., log in to X first |
| 21:22.40 | Darkclaw66 | I dont believe I have X server installed since I dont use the machine directly |
| 21:22.47 | thiago_home | then use the machine directly |
| 21:23.04 | thiago_home | your screenshot has all the telltales of low-quality image compression |
| 21:23.18 | Darkclaw66 | when I scroll over the parts that are blurry, I get this notification QPainter::setCompositionMode: PorterDuff modes not supported on device |
| 21:23.30 | thiago_home | yeah, exactly |
| 21:23.44 | thiago_home | the VNC server is the issue |
| 21:23.55 | thiago_home | use X or NX |
| 21:24.21 | Darkclaw66 | what do you recommend I do? everything was fine when I was using 3.x but since I switched to 4.x I get weird errors like this |
| 21:25.34 | thiago_home | KDE 4 requires more than simple graphics capabilties |
| 21:25.39 | thiago_home | use something better than VNC |
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| 21:25.52 | Darkclaw66 | im not sure what other types of vnc programs are out there... |
| 21:25.56 | thiago_home | NX |
| 21:27.02 | Darkclaw66 | it looks very promising |
| 21:27.04 | thiago_home | have you tried increasing your VNC compression & quality settings? |
| 21:27.48 | Darkclaw66 | yes but I am not entirely sure its that because the picture in the background is pretty nice quality |
| 21:28.50 | thiago_home | I am sure it is |
| 21:28.51 | Darkclaw66 | its only certain places like the plasma bar |
| 21:29.01 | thiago_home | like I said, your screenshot has all the telltales of low-quality compression |
| 21:29.14 | thiago_home | see the grainy around text |
| 21:29.30 | thiago_home | the area in the taskbar corresponds to the highlighted area that we see in normal Plasma |
| 21:29.56 | Darkclaw66 | I am with you but unfortunately I am reinstalling all of kde so until its done I cannot test it |
| 21:31.26 | Darkclaw66 | if I use NX, I wont have anymore problems with the graphics? |
| 21:31.49 | thiago_home | I didn't say that |
| 21:31.54 | thiago_home | I said NX is a superior solution |
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| 21:32.34 | Supavisah | Is it just me or is KDE 4.1 really buggy? |
| 21:32.49 | thiago_home | it's got bugs, yeah |
| 21:32.49 | Darkclaw66 | heh you dont want to ask me |
| 21:32.56 | thiago_home | like any other software |
| 21:32.58 | Darkclaw66 | im a bit frustrated myself |
| 21:33.15 | thiago_home | but 8 months after a major rewrite, you can expect the bug count to still be high |
| 21:33.16 | Supavisah | So would it best for me to get a 'legacy' version e.g. 3.5? |
| 21:33.22 | thiago_home | no |
| 21:33.29 | thiago_home | it's better for you to use 4.1 and report the issues |
| 21:33.39 | Supavisah | I don't want bugs though.. |
| 21:33.45 | Darkclaw66 | thiago youre using KDE with NX and you dont experience the graphical problems that im having? |
| 21:33.46 | Supavisah | I used 4.1 and it kept crashed.. multiple times. |
| 21:33.49 | thiago_home | you can't have bug-free code |
| 21:34.01 | thiago_home | Darkclaw66: I've never used KDE 4 with NX |
| 21:34.04 | Supavisah | I know you can't - but I want 'least amount of bugs'. |
| 21:34.09 | Supavisah | And what version can I get that at? |
| 21:34.16 | thiago_home | Darkclaw66: I stopped using NX a few years ago when I the need I had for it was gone |
| 21:34.25 | thiago_home | Darkclaw66: but NX is superior to VNC |
| 21:34.33 | thiago_home | Supavisah: 3.5 |
| 21:34.36 | Darkclaw66 | I am sure you are right but I dont know if it will solve the problems im having |
| 21:34.39 | Supavisah | That's what I thought. |
| 21:34.47 | thiago_home | Supavisah: but that will remain so for a couple of years |
| 21:34.57 | thiago_home | Supavisah: by KDE 4.5 we'll be about the same level as KDE 3.5 |
| 21:35.00 | thiago_home | or later |
| 21:35.15 | Supavisah | Because I saw someone in IRC quit with in their quit message saying what KDE version they were using, and I was thinking "why are they using 3.5 when there is 4.1" ? |
| 21:35.30 | Supavisah | But yeah - obviously less buggy, and you say a couple of years? >.< |
| 21:35.47 | pinotree | you can use whatever kde version -you- want, not the others want |
| 21:36.01 | thiago_home | Supavisah: the number of bugs will decrease. |
| 21:36.15 | thiago_home | Supavisah: what I am saying is that KDE 3.5 is the product of 6 years of work. |
| 21:36.23 | thiago_home | we won't reach that level any time soon with KDE 4.x |
| 21:36.26 | Supavisah | Obviously, but how long until 4.1 or 4.x is relatively stable? |
| 21:36.36 | thiago_home | it's stable enough already |
| 21:36.36 | Supavisah | oh.. |
| 21:36.40 | Supavisah | Lies!! |
| 21:36.48 | thiago_home | well, I'm using it |
| 21:36.51 | thiago_home | have been for months |
| 21:36.53 | thiago_home | many other people are |
| 21:36.54 | Darkclaw66 | its supposed to be stable in a common environment but... |
| 21:37.05 | Supavisah | "but.." haha. |
| 21:37.07 | thiago_home | Darkclaw66: you're likely to be the first person to try VNC |
| 21:37.10 | Darkclaw66 | a person like me who is using tightvnc, no |
| 21:37.13 | thiago_home | I'm not kidding |
| 21:37.14 | Theory | precisely which bugs you encounter, and thus how buggy it seems, will depend very much on what you use your computer for |
| 21:37.15 | Supavisah | VNC? |
| 21:37.25 | Theory | so it won't be the same for you as for everyone else |
| 21:37.31 | Darkclaw66 | luckyyy me :) |
| 21:37.48 | Supavisah | I see, but I only use it for.. browsing and music and coding.. that's it =/ and it was buggy. |
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| 21:38.13 | thiago_home | I use it for browsing, coding and... I listen to music |
| 21:38.16 | thiago_home | it's good enough for me |
| 21:38.17 | Darkclaw66 | im not giving up quite yet but worst case scenario I will go back to 3.x |
| 21:38.35 | Supavisah | thiago_home, maybe it's the distribution it came with.. |
| 21:39.27 | Supavisah | Fedora that is, what is a more stable one with KDE 4.x? like the one you're using thiago_home |
| 21:39.28 | thiago_home | compiles from sources |
| 21:39.28 | Supavisah | ...? |
| 21:39.28 | Theory | Supavisah: you could always find all the bugs that are affecting you in bugzilla (create new ones if needed) and sign up to be emailed with updates on them |
| 21:39.32 | Theory | that way you will be able to judge when it has reached a level of stability you will find acceptable |
| 21:39.35 | Supavisah | Theory, great idea! except.. I don't have the slightest idea what's causing them :) |
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| 21:41.09 | doggymenz | gnome start menu is much easier than kde |
| 21:41.21 | doggymenz | kde is slow and confusing to navigate |
| 21:41.36 | thiago_home | doggymenz: which menu? the kickoff one or the older/classic one? |
| 21:42.12 | twoten | can't stand the kickoff menu, uhh-ughh-ughhh |
| 21:42.25 | thiago_home | prefers the classic too |
| 21:42.32 | Supavisah | kickoff? |
| 21:42.46 | twoten | if you see it you'll be horrified |
| 21:43.00 | thiago_home | Supavisah: the default menu in KDE 4 is the "kickoff" style |
| 21:43.08 | Supavisah | Oh right. |
| 21:43.21 | thiago_home | the one that first appeared in SUSE |
| 21:43.35 | Supavisah | If I give KDE 6 months.. would it have significantly less bugs? |
| 21:43.42 | thiago_home | they did lots of research into what people used menus for and then tried to optimise those cases |
| 21:43.45 | thiago_home | Supavisah: yes |
| 21:43.57 | thiago_home | but we may add new bugs too... :-P |
| 21:44.05 | Supavisah | xD |
| 21:44.11 | Supavisah | Great, just my luck :P |
| 21:44.48 | twoten | I can't get konqueror to do ftp anymore, any ideas? |
| 21:44.57 | Supavisah | Well KDE is much more sexy than Gnome. |
| 21:44.59 | doggymenz | thiago, i dont know, the one that comes with kde4... i think its the kickoff |
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| 21:46.01 | stylish | Does anyone here know a application that displays a command based program on the backdrop ? |
| 21:46.20 | twoten | I have some saved sessions and they don't work anymore, takes forever to to the ftp login |
| 21:46.37 | twoten | maybe if I start konqueror from a terminal ... |
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| 21:48.03 | twoten | nope, no talk back, how can I see what's going on with the ftp login? |
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| 21:48.58 | thiago_home | twoten: did you build KDE with debugging information? |
| 21:49.05 | twoten | no |
| 21:49.17 | thiago_home | then use tcpdump |
| 21:49.22 | twoten | is there a log somewhere? |
| 21:49.40 | thiago_home | no |
| 21:49.55 | thiago_home | (because you didn't build KDE in debug mode) |
| 21:49.59 | twoten | something to do with the ftp kio_slave? |
| 21:50.04 | thiago_home | you have to run tcpdump while attempting to use FTP |
| 21:50.16 | twoten | installing it now ... |
| 21:51.54 | twoten | it's already there, so I run tcpdump from a term and it says no suitable device found |
| 21:52.26 | thiago_home | you have to learn how to use tcpdump first |
| 21:52.35 | twoten | agreed |
| 21:52.46 | twoten | man tcpdump |
| 21:52.50 | twoten | oops |
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| 21:53.41 | thiago_home | though it should've started dumping traffic without any need for special options... |
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| 21:53.59 | twoten | looks like I have to be root |
| 21:54.10 | thiago_home | yes |
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| 21:58.46 | twoten | maybe my web host changed and not my konqueror? |
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| 22:07.18 | haxi | hello. |
| 22:08.07 | haxi | I have a question: in Konversation, is it possible to auto-send a /quote pass (to log in into a bnc) ? |
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| 22:30.52 | haxi | PovAddict: spatial? |
| 22:30.59 | PovAddict | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spatial_file_manager |
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| 22:59.23 | Darkclaw66 | anyone know how to fix this error CMake Error at CMakeLists.txt:40 (kde4_add_ui_files): |
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| 23:10.56 | RakataPrime | I just installed arch linux with kdemod a couple days ago, my cd rom drive isn't working. hwd -s doesn't say anything about it, so I don't know if it is even being detected. Any suggestions? |
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| 23:11.59 | hugo | hello |
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| 23:13.22 | hugo | hola carajo |
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| 23:28.25 | Half-Left | Darkclaw66: How are you compiling it? |
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| 23:41.19 | Darkclaw66 | a dependency was missing. once I installed it, ktorrent works |
| 23:41.35 | Darkclaw66 | but I am still having a problem with the graphics, I really hope someone can help me fix this |
| 23:41.45 | Darkclaw66 | the plasma bar is blurry |
| 23:41.54 | Darkclaw66 | http://img84.imageshack.us/my.php?image=blurrysshc7.jpg |
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| 23:42.07 | Darkclaw66 | when I scroll over the parts that are blurry I get the following error: |
| 23:42.40 | Darkclaw66 | QPainter::setCompositionMode: PorterDuff modes not supported on device |
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| 23:43.56 | Darkclaw66 | please all, see if you can fix this |
| 23:45.14 | Half-Left | You have compositing on? |
| 23:46.42 | Darkclaw66 | its disabled |
| 23:47.20 | Darkclaw66 | it says in that window, "Compositioning is not supported on your system." "Required X extensions (XComposite and XDamage) are not available. |
| 23:49.35 | Half-Left | What graphics card do you have? |
| 23:50.11 | Darkclaw66 | the thing is im using tightvnc |
| 23:50.35 | Half-Left | No ideas about that |
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| 23:50.50 | Darkclaw66 | :( |
| 23:51.01 | Darkclaw66 | how would I run kde if I was not using tightvnc? |
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| 23:51.30 | Half-Left | Like everyone ones does |
| 23:51.53 | Darkclaw66 | if I ran startkde from the shell prompt directly on the server, it should load? |
| 23:52.17 | Half-Left | yep |
| 23:52.35 | Darkclaw66 | im going to try it! |
| 23:52.36 | raininja | holyhell |
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| 23:54.32 | Darkclaw66 | the server is not configured to run it locally like that |
| 23:54.40 | Darkclaw66 | it will only work if I use it via vnc |
| 23:55.41 | Half-Left | Thats your problem :p |
| 23:55.59 | Darkclaw66 | it probably is but this setup with kde 3.x was all good |
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