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| 00:25.31 | psypoint1r | anyone using kde4 and yakuake? my yakuake pops up very slowly (more than 200 - 300 ms) when opening. popup time is set to 0 ms, so it seems to be a performance problem |
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| 00:28.07 | psypoint1r | brb |
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| 00:31.09 | kernco | The changes I make in kmixer are going back to the defaults everytime I restart KDE, can I change this? |
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| 00:33.47 | Half-Left | kernco: Try running alsactl store |
| 00:35.13 | kernco | ok, thank you |
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| 00:38.14 | psypointer | mhh. is there a fix for bug https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=158094 in sight? |
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| 00:39.49 | Half-Left | psypointer: 4.2 should be better, I dont have that problem anymore using Trunk |
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| 00:40.01 | psypointer | Half-Left: oh, okay. |
| 00:40.07 | psypointer | sounds good :) |
| 00:40.14 | Half-Left | psypointer: But it is a mix of a few things |
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| 00:40.42 | psypointer | i hope amarok2 is ready when kde 4.2 is released :) |
| 00:41.06 | Half-Left | Well, beta 2 now, it's rocking |
| 00:41.26 | psypointer | does it work reliable? |
| 00:41.32 | Half-Left | Yep |
| 00:41.56 | Half-Left | But it's still beta so remember that |
| 00:42.13 | psypointer | yep |
| 00:42.22 | Half-Left | I love it myself |
| 00:42.37 | Half-Left | The internet servers are seemless |
| 00:42.43 | Half-Left | services* |
| 00:42.52 | psypointer | i hope that the performance issues with nvidia will be fixed soon |
| 00:42.57 | raijin | seamless* |
| 00:43.02 | psypointer | stupid nvidia :() |
| 00:43.38 | Half-Left | Yer well I'm using the XOrg nv one on xserver 1.5 |
| 00:44.20 | Half-Left | nice and smooth |
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| 00:45.56 | psypointer | my yakuake is laggy with nvidia :( |
| 00:46.03 | psypointer | also with the newest drivers ans xorg.conf hacks |
| 00:46.07 | driva2009 | morning all. can someone tell me how to switch off that annoying fade between windows on kde4.1 please? |
| 00:46.24 | driva2009 | i have epilepsy and it hurts to watch |
| 00:46.36 | Half-Left | driva2009: You mean the desktop effects? |
| 00:46.41 | driva2009 | yep. |
| 00:46.55 | Half-Left | Why did you turn it on then? |
| 00:46.57 | driva2009 | Where as you switch between windows it looks like it fades out of one and into another? |
| 00:47.01 | driva2009 | I didnt. |
| 00:47.11 | driva2009 | I only just installed 4.1 and it was on by default |
| 00:47.19 | Half-Left | Sure you did, it dont enable by degault |
| 00:47.25 | Half-Left | default* |
| 00:47.33 | Half-Left | Unless your distro did it |
| 00:47.33 | driva2009 | I am telling you, I did not switch it on. |
| 00:47.39 | driva2009 | Understand? |
| 00:47.48 | psypointer | however -> system settings -> desktop -> disable effects |
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| 00:48.02 | driva2009 | thank you psypointer |
| 00:48.11 | psypointer | np |
| 00:48.32 | psypointer | Half-Left: kubuntu enables the effects by default (for example) |
| 00:48.43 | Half-Left | Well what a surprise |
| 00:48.48 | psypointer | :- ) |
| 00:48.58 | driva2009 | this is wierd, its not switched on. its not even enabled. I don't have the required extensions... |
| 00:49.08 | driva2009 | so what the heck is causing it to fade in and out? |
| 00:49.17 | psypointer | hm, maybe you turned on compiz? :S |
| 00:49.23 | psypointer | driva2009: which distro are u using? |
| 00:49.23 | driva2009 | nope |
| 00:49.29 | driva2009 | mandriva 2009.0 |
| 00:49.39 | Half-Left | Which uses compiz |
| 00:49.40 | psypointer | uh... sorry, no idea what this guys are hacking. |
| 00:49.43 | PossibleBit | I'd like KDE 4 to start with a clean session every time, though so far I've not found how to do so. Any ideas? |
| 00:49.49 | psypointer | what says ps ax | grep -i compiz @ driva2009 ? |
| 00:49.59 | driva2009 | hold on i will check |
| 00:50.29 | driva2009 | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:50.38 | driva2009 | no compiz proc running |
| 00:50.39 | psypointer | mhh, seems like no compiz is running.. |
| 00:50.43 | Half-Left | As I rememebr mandriva askes you if you want compositing on |
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| 00:50.49 | psypointer | this is really strange.. wait |
| 00:50.54 | nick125 | Anyone know if it's possible to make kdm launch a command when a user logs in? |
| 00:51.13 | Half-Left | So you did turn it on like I said :p |
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| 00:51.44 | driva2009 | No, I most certainly did not. How many more times do i have to say it? |
| 00:51.47 | nick125 | (basically, I want kdm to launch an identd) |
| 00:52.08 | driva2009 | i don't use any desktop effects unless i want the risk of a seizure at my computer |
| 00:52.57 | psypointer | hm i'm really sorry driva2009 but i don't find any other effects options in kde4.. maybe you should ask the mandriva guys or downgrade to kde3.5 .. |
| 00:53.08 | Half-Left | driva2009: Why dont you just listen to me eh?, mandriva give a option to turn it on and you have compiz on which you must have picked during the installation or set, i've used it |
| 00:53.24 | driva2009 | i do not have compiz on |
| 00:53.27 | Half-Left | It's as simple as that |
| 00:53.38 | driva2009 | <psypointer> mhh, seems like no compiz is running.. |
| 00:53.54 | psypointer | driva2009: can you please nopaste the output of ps ax ? |
| 00:53.58 | driva2009 | and mandriva did not give me an option to turn it on |
| 00:54.09 | Half-Left | Well maybe you have friggin ghosts with your KDE then |
| 00:54.13 | driva2009 | Which bit do you not understand, Half-Left? |
| 00:55.21 | Half-Left | driva2009: Your talking about fading effects, this MUST be compositing, if it's not on via KDE then it's not our problem go to #mandriva |
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| 00:55.34 | driva2009 | Half-Left: i am sorry, but you are now ignored. I do not expect to be treated like an idiot. |
| 00:55.45 | Half-Left | Great |
| 00:55.48 | driva2009 | i came here for help, not an argument |
| 00:56.07 | driva2009 | psypointer: i will paste the output up to a bin and post the results here |
| 00:56.28 | psypointer | yep |
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| 00:57.51 | driva2009 | psypointer: http://pastebin.ca/1237392 |
| 00:58.04 | Paco_Paco | hello is there a workflow for KDE4? |
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| 00:59.37 | PossibleBit | Sorry. |
| 00:59.43 | PossibleBit | Had some connection issues. |
| 01:00.06 | psypointer | driva2009: hm, process list seems to be okay, i've got no idea whats happening there.. |
| 01:00.24 | psypointer | http://archives.mandrivalinux.com/ you should post your problem at this mailing lists.. |
| 01:00.31 | driva2009 | does translucency have any issues for this? |
| 01:00.47 | driva2009 | i don't know if translucency is enabled in my x settings |
| 01:01.04 | psypointer | mh now, shouldn't be |
| 01:01.22 | psypointer | the xorg conf can only provide features - but they are only used by the window manager |
| 01:01.42 | driva2009 | its not. |
| 01:01.54 | driva2009 | Well I am now thoroughly confused |
| 01:02.02 | Paco_Paco | hello is there a workflow for KDE4? |
| 01:02.06 | Paco_Paco | hello is there a workflow for KDE4? |
| 01:02.09 | Half-Left | Go to #mandriva then |
| 01:02.10 | driva2009 | We |
| 01:02.11 | driva2009 | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:02.11 | driva2009 | a |
| 01:02.13 | driva2009 | w |
| 01:02.21 | psypointer | pinotree: whats your problem? |
| 01:02.32 | psypointer | err sorry pinotree, i just meant Paco_Paco |
| 01:03.05 | driva2009 | sorry about that, my enter key stuck down. the result of a mug of coffee/keyboard accident... |
| 01:03.17 | psypointer | :- ) |
| 01:03.32 | Half-Left | Yer like ther fading on your desktop |
| 01:03.36 | PossibleBit | Anyways, I face a different problem now. I'm using Kubuntu 8.10 (Just upgraded from 8.04) and KDE 4.1. after a crash I'm stuck with the mouse pointer acting up (basically clicking about anything acts as if ALT was pressed - meaning it turns into a moving cursor) |
| 01:03.49 | psypointer | PossibleBit: welcome to my world *hrhrhr* |
| 01:03.55 | PossibleBit | oh, you too? |
| 01:04.16 | PossibleBit | wonderful, I'm contemplating just getting a fluxbox and waiting for KDE 4 to get stable |
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| 01:04.27 | eljefe | PossibleBit: i had a similar issue, it turned out to be my wireless mouse |
| 01:04.31 | psypointer | hm nope, but i upgraded from 8.04 to 8.10 and its far from beeing stable.. |
| 01:04.46 | PossibleBit | eljefe, actually. I use a wireless mouse :O |
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| 01:04.51 | PossibleBit | gonna try with a normal one |
| 01:05.02 | psypointer | maybe it's a xorg problem |
| 01:05.23 | psypointer | you should try installing xfce parallel to your kde4 and check if the mouse problem exists there, too |
| 01:05.40 | eljefe | yeah this one pretty much died a long time ago (actually same issue), but I thought I'd try to use it again. I used it fine for a few weeks and then... click click click on everything |
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| 01:06.19 | PossibleBit | no |
| 01:06.24 | PossibleBit | same problem with other mouse or touchpad |
| 01:06.40 | eljefe | ooh that sounds nasty then |
| 01:07.32 | PossibleBit | Okay |
| 01:07.35 | psypointer | PossibleBit: try with xfce.. |
| 01:07.49 | eljefe | or try with a live cd |
| 01:08.04 | driva2009 | one more thing, psypointer - how do you disable the mouseover effects> |
| 01:08.06 | driva2009 | ? |
| 01:08.08 | psypointer | yeah, amarok2 rocks :) |
| 01:08.18 | PossibleBit | what's the package name for xfce again? |
| 01:08.20 | eljefe | that would eliminate/confirm problems with xorg settings or the DE or many others i would think |
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| 01:08.51 | blauzahl | anyone here tried kmobiletools and messed with syncing their phone? |
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| 01:09.11 | PossibleBit | Oh and, how exactly do I keep KDE 4 from resuming an old session? |
| 01:09.27 | bilbo82 | Hi, I was using KDE4 on suse 11, I was wondering if it's stable because it doesn't seem to be on open suse. Is it usuable? are people using it? |
| 01:09.28 | psypointer | driva2009: i dont now, sorry. |
| 01:09.46 | driva2009 | np |
| 01:09.50 | driva2009 | thanks anyway |
| 01:10.10 | PossibleBit | psypointer, tried with Fluxbox (since it's even smaller) and there everything works fine enough. |
| 01:10.14 | psypointer | ah |
| 01:10.46 | psypointer | driva2009: system settings -> appearance -> style -> effect -> highlight disables the highlight effect.. |
| 01:11.00 | driva2009 | thank you! |
| 01:11.10 | psypointer | partially.. |
| 01:11.41 | psypointer | but you can find all possible preferences in system settings -> appearance / desktop which refer to desktop effects and stuff like this |
| 01:13.14 | blauzahl | bilbo82: depends on your point of view? #opensuse-kde might be better help for you |
| 01:13.31 | driva2009 | I found what I was looking for from the last question, psypointer - exactly what turned the fade effects off... |
| 01:13.33 | bilbo82 | hmmm good idea thanks |
| 01:13.42 | tehkde | In KDE4 how do I edit Text Control shortcuts like I could in kde3? Like Select All and Goto Beginning Of The Line. |
| 01:13.59 | psypointer | driva2009: perfect :> |
| 01:14.16 | tehkde | My hands are crippled due to years of emacs and the shortcuts are a musthave :/ |
| 01:14.41 | driva2009 | System settings / Appearance / Colours / Effects - set the active and inactive windows to No contrast, No Intensity and No Colour. |
| 01:14.53 | driva2009 | one of the settings is Fade |
| 01:15.15 | driva2009 | its set it now so that none of the buttons fade in and out, no titlebars, nothing fades |
| 01:15.22 | driva2009 | perfect. |
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| 01:18.10 | nick125 | Anyone here know what user KDM runs Xstartup as? |
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| 01:19.50 | driva2009 | as in start a new x session, nick? |
| 01:24.50 | nick125 | oh duh. It'd help if I read the big comment that says "Xstartup - run as root before session starts" |
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| 01:40.12 | ncfi1013_ | is kde3 still supported, namely k3b? or is everything kde4 now? |
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| 01:45.29 | suh | oii |
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| 01:50.44 | luke-jr | k3b was never part of KDE⦠and no, KDE 3 isn't still supported |
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| 01:52.13 | raijin | k3b wasnever a part of kde? its just tightly integrated with kde and depends on kde |
| 01:52.21 | raijin | and |
| 01:52.33 | raijin | why is it in the kde svn repo? |
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| 01:56.31 | driva2009 | anyone know what the command is for starting amarok2 please? I've installed it, but can't find it. Clicking the amarok button in my menu starts 1.4 :( |
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| 01:58.59 | pgib | maybe amarok2? |
| 01:59.27 | driva2009 | i have tried typing that at the cli, also in the run command box, it does nothing |
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| 02:02.49 | pgib | dunno what distro? |
| 02:03.15 | pgib | raijin: k3b just happens to be a program that uses kdelibs |
| 02:03.26 | raijin | like amarok |
| 02:03.39 | raijin | that is like "e17 is alpha" |
| 02:03.44 | raijin | ie bullshit |
| 02:04.58 | driva2009 | pgib: mandriva 2009.0 |
| 02:10.42 | pgib | hmm. can't help, sry |
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| 02:36.14 | mernil | hi all! |
| 02:36.35 | mernil | i feel old.. |
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| 02:38.30 | mernil | i feel i havent marked out my position in the world :-) |
| 02:39.06 | mernil | well.. some call me satan.. |
| 02:39.43 | mernil | but im to nice for that name :-) |
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| 02:56.39 | Dedi | is it common that kde4 slows down more and more the longer the system runs? its up for 1 day now and massively slower than yesterday |
| 02:59.16 | junkDawgie | not for me.. which version are you running? |
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| 02:59.49 | Dedi | intrepid (ubuntu) |
| 03:00.04 | Dedi | so latest |
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| 03:03.00 | Dedi | looks mostly like plasma has a memory leak, 240M Res Memory ! |
| 03:03.02 | Dedi | crazy |
| 03:03.03 | lilltiger | Dedi: sounds like you have an memory leak on your hands |
| 03:03.10 | Dedi | :() |
| 03:03.34 | lilltiger | ust restart plasma then, can be an plasmoid you are using that is leaking |
| 03:03.50 | junkDawgie | there are a couple versions of libplasma floating around.. but it could be a plasmoid too |
| 03:03.52 | lilltiger | kquitapp plasma && plasma |
| 03:03.56 | junkDawgie | yeah, what lil said |
| 03:04.07 | lilltiger | kquitapp plasma; plasma & |
| 03:04.10 | lilltiger | probly better :) |
| 03:04.21 | Dedi | :) |
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| 03:06.23 | Dedi | so wonderful :) |
| 03:06.43 | Dedi | thanks, helped. know can i track down what part of plasma is causing this? |
| 03:07.02 | Dedi | i dont use any special widgets |
| 03:07.38 | ArkoldThos | here plasma uses 111M |
| 03:07.39 | ArkoldThos | :O |
| 03:08.10 | Dedi | newly started it uses 22m here |
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| 03:08.31 | Dedi | had 240M after 20 uptime |
| 03:08.47 | Dedi | my firefox leaks memory too |
| 03:08.50 | Dedi | all not nice things :( |
| 03:08.54 | junkDawgie | 35M here |
| 03:09.07 | drantin | is there a dbus call I can use to stop nepomukservices? I see the stoService method via qdbusviewer, but no matter what I call it with it returns false... |
| 03:09.12 | magyar | hi, which app do i use in kde to be able to configure smb shares on local system as root? |
| 03:09.18 | drantin | stopService* |
| 03:09.54 | Dedi | clamav memory leak too? 190M here |
| 03:10.31 | Dedi | and X 190M |
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| 03:23.12 | Dedi | i'll just remove clamav |
| 03:23.37 | Dedi | but what can i do against the 200M X ? |
| 03:24.45 | memunkey | I want a harmonica |
| 03:25.47 | memunkey | magyar, depends which apps you have installed with your distro |
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| 03:29.24 | lilltiger | Dedi: You can try to restart the compositing if you are using it (desktop effects) as some graphic drivers leak memory |
| 03:33.14 | Dedi | so when X itselfs memory leaks its propably drivers? |
| 03:33.47 | lilltiger | often, as X itself is pretty solid and seldom has leaks |
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| 03:35.05 | Dedi | im not wondering about that, using nvidia here :( |
| 03:36.16 | lilltiger | im also expericing leaks nd think the cause is the latest nvidia drivers, my server runing intel has no souch leak and has an uptime of months |
| 03:41.52 | alexandre_ | hello |
| 03:42.16 | alexandre_ | how do i active auto-indent in KATE ? |
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| 03:44.27 | commie_cary | hello, can someone explan the benfits of KDE Over GNOME? |
| 03:45.47 | tkmorris | commie_cary: they may differ from person to person |
| 03:46.14 | tkmorris | commie_cary: you'd be safer by trying both |
| 03:46.20 | memunkey | commie_cary, biggest difference to me is footprint. KDE's is a bit smaller |
| 03:46.23 | commie_cary | tkmorris, ok thank you |
| 03:46.53 | Zarin | memunkey, I wouldn't call that the "biggest" |
| 03:47.17 | memunkey | and KDE is included in Slackware and SLAMD64 but Gnome isn't any longer |
| 03:47.34 | commie_cary | well linus is on your guys side but ubuntu is on gnomes side, so im torn |
| 03:47.37 | commie_cary | :P |
| 03:47.52 | memunkey | commie_cary, try kubuntu |
| 03:48.09 | memunkey | ubuntu with KDE instead of Gnome |
| 03:48.26 | commie_cary | k |
| 03:48.35 | Zarin | Kubuntu isn't really as "good" as a KDE-specific distro like OpenSuSE though |
| 03:48.51 | Zarin | But if you want to stay close to Ubuntu that's fine I guess |
| 03:48.51 | tkmorris | Zarin: True |
| 03:49.10 | memunkey | Zarin, no, but if he's used to Ubuntu, it'll be the slightest learning curve |
| 03:49.16 | Zarin | Yeah |
| 03:49.37 | Dedicated | Zarin: do you know any source to read more about the differences from kubuntu and opensuse ? |
| 03:49.42 | Zarin | But Kubuntu breaks in some places due to the way it's implemented on Ubuntu's Gnome-specific repositories |
| 03:49.56 | Zarin | They've been slowly fixing it though |
| 03:50.02 | memunkey | hence my sticking with Slackware-based Linux instead of Debian or Red Hat based |
| 03:50.14 | Zarin | Dedicated, I do nto |
| 03:50.15 | Zarin | ot |
| 03:50.39 | Dedicated | ok ta |
| 03:51.02 | Zarin | The only real recommendation we can give it try them all |
| 03:51.11 | Zarin | Might be time-consuming, but it's the best way |
| 03:51.18 | memunkey | agreed |
| 03:51.37 | memunkey | but only try Slackware if you really want to learn the internals |
| 03:51.38 | Zarin | I love Arch and dislike Kubuntu, but someone else might be the exact opposite |
| 03:52.05 | commie_cary | sudo apt-get install kde4 dosnt work :\ |
| 03:52.13 | memunkey | they don't call Slackware "Linux for the Subgenius" for nothing |
| 03:52.33 | Dedicated | commie_cary: its kalled kubuntu-desktop, its a metapackage |
| 03:52.36 | Zarin | commie_cary, I think it's kubuntu-desktop-kde4 or something |
| 03:52.57 | Dedicated | or with -kde4 for gutsy yes |
| 03:54.19 | commie_cary | awww |
| 03:54.38 | commie_cary | my cat is sleeping on my linux stuffed thingy |
| 03:54.39 | commie_cary | :P |
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| 03:55.29 | memunkey | needs to get the fishtank out of storage and boot it into Slackware again. |
| 03:56.27 | commie_cary | slackware is to hard to learn |
| 03:56.58 | commie_cary | ubuntu is easy |
| 03:57.21 | commie_cary | :P |
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| 03:58.17 | memunkey | yeah, I have been using Slack since 3.0, so I am used to it. |
| 03:59.02 | commie_cary | :P |
| 03:59.29 | commie_cary | well Ive been using ubuntu sence 8.4 :P |
| 03:59.50 | memunkey | yeah, nothing like that old 2.2 kernel |
| 04:00.17 | memunkey | or even better, the 1.3 kernel in my Caldera Linux distro. :D |
| 04:02.36 | commie_cary | why is KDE downloading so slow, I normally get 1.5-2mb/s when using ubuntu repos not 100kb/s |
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| 04:05.25 | supert0nes | those repos will be taxed heavily for the next few weeks |
| 04:05.55 | commie_cary | lawl |
| 04:06.23 | commie_cary | ok brb, logging into KDE 4!!! |
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| 04:11.01 | Commie_Cary | I cant believe it |
| 04:11.05 | Commie_Cary | linux CRASHED! |
| 04:12.54 | Commie_Cary | anyway... |
| 04:13.03 | Commie_Cary | time for the boring part |
| 04:13.05 | Commie_Cary | -_- |
| 04:16.21 | Commie_Cary | WTF |
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| 04:16.56 | Commie_Cary | weres my windows decaterater! |
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| 04:29.32 | pgib | lol- |
| 04:29.49 | pgib | Commie you can probably alt-f2 then run kwin |
| 04:29.55 | pgib | or just Ctrl-Alt-Bksp |
| 04:30.15 | pgib | funny stuff- My friends couldn't copy this video DVD |
| 04:30.24 | pgib | pop it in linux, k3b copies it with no problem |
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| 04:58.49 | pgib | lol... kde is so good |
| 04:59.08 | pgib | just the little things the I used to miss from windows |
| 04:59.16 | pgib | I moved to linux 2+ years ago |
| 04:59.29 | pgib | used fluxbox, gnome, xfce.. |
| 04:59.49 | pgib | but with kde.. everything is so nicely integrated. congrats |
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| 05:18.36 | CyberBird | hi |
| 05:18.54 | CyberBird | I have a problem with plasmoids |
| 05:19.36 | CyberBird | I download plasmoids from kde-look.org and I can't install them |
| 05:19.43 | CyberBird | :/ |
| 05:21.02 | gilt | you have to compile them |
| 05:21.04 | gilt | : c |
| 05:21.35 | CyberBird | no, look |
| 05:21.48 | gilt | no |
| 05:21.56 | CyberBird | when I select "install from file" |
| 05:22.20 | CyberBird | there should be a super karamba theme |
| 05:22.29 | CyberBird | installer |
| 05:22.38 | CyberBird | but there isn't any |
| 05:23.18 | CyberBird | I follow the instructions but doesn't work |
| 05:23.30 | CyberBird | :/ |
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| 05:30.54 | blauzahl | so does anyone here know how to mount a cell phone? |
| 05:31.08 | blauzahl | or should i try whatever pim channel there might be? |
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| 05:35.17 | pgib | no clue.. I don't think any cell phones show up as block devices |
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| 05:36.01 | pgib | but.. I never tried and I have a shitty cell phone. But, I typically only see that support for cameras and media players, although this may be changing |
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| 05:43.20 | nogagplz | blauzahl: I have no luck with mine, but virtualbox with windows is good enough >> |
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| 05:45.11 | pgib | virtualbox is nice.. I use it for some windows development stuff at work |
| 05:45.40 | CyberBird | can anyone help me with plasmoids? |
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| 05:47.10 | pgib | CyberBird: probably depends on your problem |
| 05:48.08 | blauzahl | http://motorola.pastebin.com/d6b9501b6 <---this is what i get. |
| 05:48.13 | CyberBird | well... I try to install some new ones and I fail |
| 05:56.32 | CyberBird | any idea? |
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| 06:00.39 | PossibleBit | Okay, this might be a help for all Kubuntu users who have migrated from a 8.04 to a 8.10 KDE 4: It seems that KDE doesn't take to well if you have both a ~/.kde4 and a ~/.kde directory. |
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| 06:01.35 | G__81 | hi |
| 06:02.05 | G__81 | i am using amarok in kde 4.1.2 and when i boot my system everytime i am asked for the password to mount windows volumes. Cant i automate it ?> |
| 06:02.07 | G__81 | if so how ? |
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| 06:07.01 | G__81 | because of this when i start amarok its unable to build the collection |
| 06:07.20 | G__81 | everytime i am made to give a password to mount windows drives |
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| 07:31.25 | kwtm | Question about KDE Menu Editor: how do I escape the "%" character? I want an item on my KDE menu to run the command "date +%F", but KDE Menu Editor turns the "%F" into "a list of files". I really want to pass the string "%F" to the "date" command. |
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| 07:43.47 | nanothief | kwtm, just a guess, have you tried %% ? |
| 07:44.40 | kwtm | nanothief: I did try --thanks for the suggestion-- doesn't seem to work. Right now I'm trying to use "date $'\045F'" but still not working. :P |
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| 07:50.42 | kwtm | nanothief: Okay, I finally had to write a one-line bash script just to get it working. Here it is: 2008-10-27 00:50:44 |
| 07:51.08 | nanothief | kwtm: yeah I often do that for menu items |
| 07:51.18 | kwtm | nanothief: So, that date/time was pasted into the Klipper klipboard using a shortcut key that calls a menu item that calls a bash script. |
| 07:51.53 | kwtm | nanothief: Funny thing is, another menu item that does a similar thing can be implemented with a 1-line bash command. 8AR0pv |
| 07:52.11 | nanothief | cool |
| 07:52.32 | kwtm | nanothief: See, 8AR0q6 is my special brand of date stamp and I just wrote a 1-liner. ("8"=2008, "A" = October, "R" = 27, etc.) |
| 07:52.45 | nanothief | you might want to look into xautomatum and xbindkeys if you want to do other complex macro keys |
| 07:53.19 | kwtm | nanothief: Thanks for the info. I'll check those. I just wish the KDE people had thought of something simple like escaping the % character. |
| 07:53.41 | kwtm | nanothief: (The "%F" has special meaning, but "%H:%M:" does not, so the time shows up but not the date.) Oh, well. |
| 07:53.51 | nanothief | well its probably not a common requirement |
| 07:54.13 | nanothief | and kde4 doesn't even have application shortcuts yet :( |
| 07:54.14 | kwtm | nanothief: Oh, I get it now: % followed by S has a special meaning in Konversation, too: the rest of the text appears as strikeout. Is that how it looks to you? |
| 07:54.34 | nanothief | I got a box with [[0 0][1 3]] |
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| 07:54.42 | nanothief | %S |
| 07:54.46 | kwtm | nanothief: Yeah, I think KDE4 is way too immature to be released as such. |
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| 07:55.06 | nanothief | but with those two programs I noted, I find it much better than kde3 |
| 07:55.21 | kwtm | nanothief: I mean, it's great that they're working on it, but people are dropping support for KDE3 (or at least withholding development) and we'll need it for --my estimate?-- at least another year before KDE4 is ready. |
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| 07:55.50 | nanothief | have you used 4.1 yet (4.1 was a massive improvement over 4.0) |
| 07:56.06 | kwtm | nanothief: Okay. I've got too much invested in learning KDE3 so I'm going to wait until everyone else is using KDE4 first. Haven't used 4.1 yet... |
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| 07:56.22 | kwtm | nanothief: Honestly, I just need a OS that stays out of the way while I get my things done. I like tinkering, but not all the time. |
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| 07:57.25 | nanothief | switching is always a pain |
| 07:57.29 | kwtm | nanothief: Anyway, thanks for your help. I'm going to leave now ... at 2008-10-27 00:57:11. (Couldn't resist showing off my new macro... which, in my opinion, should have been built into Klipper) |
| 07:57.37 | nanothief | hehe |
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| 08:23.36 | G__81 | I had a mp3 file on my destkop and i clicked on the red icon near to it and it just went off from my desktop but when i do ls in my desktop in the shell i am able to see it |
| 08:23.49 | G__81 | whats that red close button used for |
| 08:25.18 | Dedi | kde4 keybindings are still ******* ? |
| 08:26.11 | G__81 | Hi dealer |
| 08:26.14 | G__81 | Hi Dedi |
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| 08:27.33 | Dedi | how you know i am one... ? :) |
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| 08:28.15 | Dedi | G__81: you just removed the widget that displayed the /home/.../Desktop content |
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| 08:28.36 | Dedi | add wiget- folder view |
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| 08:34.35 | luis__ | alguien habla español ? |
| 08:35.47 | luis__ | holaaaaaaa |
| 08:35.49 | luis__ | hello |
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| 08:38.22 | batcoder-7 | i have kde installed and it works *ok* but scrolling whne web browsing is horrible |
| 08:38.25 | batcoder-7 | very slow |
| 08:39.07 | batcoder-7 | I don't know what to do either |
| 08:39.54 | batcoder-7 | anyone got any ideas? |
| 08:39.55 | Dedi | batcoder-7: you got nvidia gpu? |
| 08:39.59 | batcoder-7 | nope |
| 08:40.00 | batcoder-7 | intel |
| 08:40.09 | Dedi | should run fine afaik |
| 08:40.18 | batcoder-7 | it was working fine with 3.x |
| 08:40.27 | batcoder-7 | i mean its very very slow |
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| 08:41.00 | batcoder-7 | i did od a dumbass install i was in debian lenny had 2.x installed just added a back port repos and yea installed kde4 and hoped for the best |
| 08:41.51 | batcoder-7 | i run in a high resolution but man its very wierd |
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| 08:43.39 | batcoder-7 | firefox scrolling is fine |
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| 08:49.55 | G__81 | Dedi, i didnt do that if you have an icon and when you move the mouse over it, you see a red icon next to the widget and i clicked that and that file got removed from the desktop |
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| 08:54.31 | irina_r | G__81: if you lock widgets that won't happen (ctrl-L or option in the cashew) |
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| 08:59.21 | go_beep_yourself | how can i make my amarok look like this one ???? http://amarok.kde.org/screenshots |
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| 09:07.32 | batcoder-7 | i cant tak this slow scrolling much longer |
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| 09:13.20 | G__81 | irina_r, yes but i clicked on it before locking :( now how do i retrieve that icon back to the desktop. its actually not a shortcut its the file itself |
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| 09:16.44 | rindolf | Hi all. |
| 09:16.45 | rindolf | Did anyone notice that after invoking Kopete in KDE-4.1.70, the cursor in the taskbar changes to a hand instead of an arrow? |
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| 09:29.09 | G__81 | whats that cross button used for which appears against each widget ? |
| 09:29.17 | G__81 | when its clicked the widget goes off |
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| 09:30.40 | rindolf | G__81: you mean the X button? |
| 09:30.50 | Zarin | The delete button? |
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| 09:31.26 | G__81 | exactly the X button |
| 09:32.04 | G__81 | i had a mp3 file and i clicked on that and it just became small when i clicked and it disappeared :) then when i incidently opened the Konsole and typed ls in /home/me/Desktop i saw the file but its not visible in the Desktop |
| 09:32.15 | _RedGhost_ | How can I add something to an existing wallet? |
| 09:32.18 | _RedGhost_ | in 4.2 |
| 09:32.46 | G__81 | i have been a Gnome user for the past few months and started using KDE 4.1.2 from yesterday :) its really good |
| 09:32.53 | G__81 | so very new to this :) |
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| 09:34.08 | _RedGhost_ | ah, nevermind, I found out |
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| 09:46.16 | fschmitt | Great. Kopete just removed all my contacts from my server side ICQ contact list. I *hate* KDE 4. |
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| 09:52.57 | elmargol | fschmitt: ICQ sucks anyway |
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| 09:57.43 | mernil | hi all! |
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| 09:58.04 | rindolf | Hi mernil |
| 09:59.03 | G__81 | hi rindolf |
| 09:59.13 | G__81 | rindolf, how do i retrieve that file :) ? |
| 09:59.29 | G__81 | the one that i clicked on the X icon on the desktop |
| 10:01.17 | mernil | i need money.. i have appocimatly 0.5 USD on my account :-( |
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| 10:04.08 | fschmitt | elmargol: Yes. But as much as I try to like KDE 4, constantly things are slow, buggy and unpolished. |
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| 10:05.16 | _RedGhost_ | it might benefit from more polish, but it's generally pretty fast |
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| 10:13.47 | elmargol | fschmitt: don't know what your problems are. it works perfect here |
| 10:15.11 | elmargol | some minor rendering issues thats all |
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| 10:16.57 | fschmitt | Okular is extremly slow when rendering dvi-Files, much slower then kdvi was. The run dialog from Alt+F2 takes ages. Kopete eats my contact list. The window manager crashes at least once a day. |
| 10:17.16 | fschmitt | Either the Fedora packages suck or I have bad luck but I can't work like that. |
| 10:17.47 | _RedGhost_ | don't know what hardware you have, but alt+f2 is fast here... no problem with kopete at all either |
| 10:17.51 | _RedGhost_ | no crash |
| 10:18.03 | _RedGhost_ | (driver issue for you, maybe?) |
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| 10:18.23 | _RedGhost_ | don't know about okular and dvi as I don't really use dvi files |
| 10:19.23 | _RedGhost_ | you might report this as a bug, and nothing prevents you from using kdvi for dvi files... |
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| 10:31.28 | et | is there a way to turn off the "clipping" when moving windows? |
| 10:31.50 | Tidus | what do you mean by "clipping" |
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| 10:32.30 | alarm | hello there, i need some help with an application that autostarts without knowing how :) |
| 10:32.54 | alarm | it is about compiz-fusion . first i did create an executable sh file in the Autostart dir |
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| 10:33.13 | alarm | and it did start. after removing the file compiz was still running on every boot. |
| 10:33.33 | alarm | removed also every entry from ksmserverrc , but still the same, compiz starts |
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| 10:33.50 | Tidus | alarm: what kde version? |
| 10:33.55 | Tidus | and distro? |
| 10:33.55 | alarm | 3.5.x |
| 10:33.58 | Tidus | kinda need to know that |
| 10:33.58 | alarm | kubuntu |
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| 10:34.10 | Tidus | kubuntu's kde 3.5.x has built-in support for effects |
| 10:34.18 | alarm | meaning ? |
| 10:34.20 | Tidus | the controls for it can be found in the control center |
| 10:34.53 | alarm | in witch section ? what has the compiz to du with the kde effect support |
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| 10:38.39 | batcoder-7 | anyone up ? |
| 10:38.58 | Tidus | yeah, barely lol |
| 10:39.16 | batcoder-7 | i have a severe scrolling problem with konquror |
| 10:39.16 | Tidus | alarm: i'm not 100% sure, haven't got access to my kubuntu box at the moment |
| 10:39.18 | batcoder-7 | in kde 4.x |
| 10:39.55 | alarm | okie |
| 10:40.14 | Tidus | batcoder-7: details would be helpful |
| 10:40.39 | alarm | something else. right after loging in i saw 2 konqueror instances run , without me even using konqueror at all. that happens everytime. why is that |
| 10:41.06 | batcoder-7 | Tidus: it is just super slow at scrolling |
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| 10:41.41 | rakekniven | how to extract svgz files? |
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| 10:43.35 | batcoder-7 | any ideas Tidus |
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| 10:50.08 | pinotree | rakekniven: gunzip file.svgz >file.svg |
| 10:50.27 | rakekniven | thx |
| 10:51.03 | rakekniven | the kopete logo in svg looks strange in konqueror and userbase/techbase |
| 10:51.10 | rakekniven | firefox does it better |
| 10:53.04 | Tidus | batcoder-7: do you have the proper video drivers for your card installed? |
| 10:53.09 | rakekniven | pinotree: can you help? |
| 10:53.23 | rakekniven | http://techbase.kde.org/Image:Kopete.svg |
| 10:54.07 | batcoder-7 | Tidus: i do |
| 10:54.44 | Tidus | and konqueror is supremely slow at scrolling? |
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| 11:01.51 | batcoder-7 | man o man still lagging |
| 11:02.01 | batcoder-7 | i didn't have ,my video card drviers installed i thought that was it |
| 11:02.08 | batcoder-7 | a plain text page should not be lagging ;) |
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| 11:03.38 | batcoder-7 | what exactly should i do to check to see if i am doing anything wrong here ? |
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| 11:06.40 | batcoder-7 | any9ne ? |
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| 11:30.06 | mernil | i need some male companionship |
| 11:30.20 | mernil | haha.. or female companionship :-) |
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| 11:42.49 | testi | with desktop effects enabled, window resizing is much faster on my intel notebook than on my workstation with nvidia graphics |
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| 11:43.13 | Jucato | ditto :) |
| 11:43.28 | testi | What's wrong with the nvidia drivers? |
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| 11:45.11 | Jucato | testi: http://userbase.kde.org/GPU-Performance |
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| 11:55.08 | testi | Jucato: thank you |
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| 12:11.48 | wolfmankurd | Hey guys how can I application launchers to a panel? i.e. a firefox quick launcher? |
| 12:12.03 | wolfmankurd | I can't seem to drag/drop it though I can to desktop |
| 12:12.16 | Jucato | wolfmankurd: right-click -> Add to Panel |
| 12:12.27 | Jucato | you can drag and drop, but it's trickier |
| 12:12.37 | wolfmankurd | From desktop? |
| 12:12.44 | Jucato | (4.2 will have an improvement) |
| 12:12.53 | Jucato | wolfmankurd: from the K Menu (using Kickoff style) |
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| 12:13.29 | wolfmankurd | Jucato: that seems to just launch the app |
| 12:13.56 | Jucato | wolfmankurd: you're using the Classic style menu aren't you? |
| 12:14.19 | wolfmankurd | Jucato: oh sorry I thought kickoff was the classic |
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| 12:17.14 | wolfmankurd | Jucato: thanks much, got it fixed, is there a way to change they style of a panel for example transparent? |
| 12:18.11 | Jucato | wolfmankurd: none that I know of. sorry |
| 12:18.38 | wolfmankurd | Jucato: thanks anyway |
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| 12:29.45 | praedor | I'm running Mandriva 2009.0, kde 4.1.2. I have two questions concerning kmail: 1) What is the point of the "view message structure" setting? Why do I want to see the structure? 2) I cannot find the setting that used to be in kmail to start at the first unread message in kde 4. Has this very useful setting been eliminated for some unintelligible reason? |
| 12:30.37 | mark_alec | praedor: i guess that the message structure is useful for reading mailing lists |
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| 12:34.55 | praedor | Oh, make that three questions. The 3rd concerns KDE and focus stealing. This one is rather critical while my first 2 were about annoyances. I run Matlab for linux on my computer (Mandriva, formerly 2008.1, kde 3.4.5, now 2009.0 and kde 4.1.2). Until I went to kde 4 I never ever had problems with focus being stolen by my apps. In kde 4, I have a major problem with Matlab stealing focus of my keyboard such that when Matlab 2008a is running and analyzing |
| 12:34.57 | praedor | data, I cannot do any writing in linux at all because Matlab repeatedly steals keyboard focus. I have tried changing the focus stealing settings so that they are very strict and based on mouse clicking on a window but this doesn't help. No matter what other settings I've tried Matlab continues stealing focus of the keyboard. Is there any way to make kde 4 behave more like kde 3.x in this regard? |
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| 12:36.27 | cyberdyne__hi | hi |
| 12:36.32 | praedor | My mouse is still usable with Matlab running but it is impossible to type so no email, no openoffice (or any other app) writing, no commands into a CLI, nothing. |
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| 12:40.00 | gkiagia | praedor: does the same matlab version work correctly with kde3? (and with the same java vm) |
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| 12:40.48 | praedor | gkiagia: yes. Matlab remained the same through the upgrade. |
| 12:41.05 | gkiagia | really strange... |
| 12:41.14 | praedor | And the java machine was...I THINK it was the same 1.6 |
| 12:41.57 | gkiagia | praedor: although I can't think how this can happen, it might be worth reporting a bug against kwin |
| 12:42.34 | praedor | gkiagia: will do. |
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| 13:00.22 | G__81 | i have installed kde 4.1.2 and all of a sudden my desktop is screwed up. i want to create a new panel and i want it to be placed at the default location |
| 13:00.35 | G__81 | but what happens is that it gets created at the top of the screen |
| 13:00.41 | G__81 | can some one help me to set right this problem ? |
| 13:01.00 | G__81 | i did something and my existing panel got disturbed and then i removed it and i tried creating a new one |
| 13:01.08 | G__81 | it gets created at the top |
| 13:01.26 | G__81 | how do i get the default KDE 4.1.2 settings |
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| 13:03.30 | FoxIII | Hi all. Having a few problems with my email. I have set up two accounts in pim and I am receiving emails from one, but not the other. I have checked the settings over and over, but everything seems correct. No errors are reported either. |
| 13:04.22 | G__81 | can some one help me with this ? |
| 13:05.22 | G__81 | hi FoxIII I just need to create a new panel at the default location |
| 13:05.25 | G__81 | how do i do it |
| 13:05.38 | G__81 | can you help me ? |
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| 13:06.23 | Jucato | G__81: "kquitapp plasma && rm ~/.kde4/share/config/plasma* && plasma" will 1. quit plasma 2. delete the plasma config files, resetting the panel and the desktop (wallpaper, widgets, etc) to the default, and 3. start plasma |
| 13:06.52 | Jucato | it might be ~/.kde/share/config/plasma*,depending on how your distro sets KDE 4 up |
| 13:07.01 | G__81 | i am using Fedora 9 |
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| 13:07.25 | Jucato | ah then it might be "kquitapp plasma && rm ~/.kde/share/config/plasma* && plasma" |
| 13:08.17 | G__81 | ok let me try it |
| 13:08.56 | G__81 | i get this |
| 13:08.57 | G__81 | kquitapp plasma && rm ~/.kde/share/config/plasma* |
| 13:08.57 | G__81 | <unknown program name>(3616)/: Application "plasma" could not be found using service "org.kde.plasma" and path "/MainApplication" |
| 13:09.11 | G__81 | sorry i get this |
| 13:09.12 | G__81 | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:09.12 | G__81 | <unknown program name>(3629)/: Application "plasma" could not be found using service "org.kde.plasma" and path "/MainApplication" . |
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| 13:09.58 | G__81 | Jucato, is that ok can i now log out and try again |
| 13:09.58 | Jucato | you have plasma running? (you have the wallpaper, maybe some widgets, or a panel?) |
| 13:09.59 | G__81 | ? |
| 13:10.09 | G__81 | oh i guess its got killed |
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| 13:10.15 | G__81 | no i dont have a wallpaper |
| 13:10.19 | G__81 | or any widget |
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| 13:10.34 | Jucato | well then it's not running. you can leave the "kquitapp plasma &&" part |
| 13:10.35 | G__81 | and i have deleted the plasma* in the specified directory |
| 13:11.00 | Jucato | ok.. try running "plasma" again |
| 13:11.01 | G__81 | i gave this |
| 13:11.35 | G__81 | oh great i have got it in the default location but whats happening is that |
| 13:12.11 | G__81 | the Device notifier and the work space switcher are all placed near to the main menu |
| 13:12.33 | G__81 | and then i have the Xchat Window icon i want those things to be moved to the right hand corner of the screen |
| 13:12.44 | G__81 | i am not able to move these widgets in the taskbar |
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| 13:14.30 | Jucato | G__81: click on the Plasma icon (orange "cashew" icon) at the far right of the panel. then you'll get into Panel COnfiguration mode, then you can click on an icon that you want and move it around |
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| 13:14.59 | \marco | hi to all :) |
| 13:15.22 | \marco | I've problem compiling plasma-workspace... I'm the only one? |
| 13:15.26 | \marco | http://rafb.net/p/eWemTX40.html |
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| 13:15.55 | G__81 | Jucato, when i click on it get Panel settings and when i click panel settings i get an other taskbar |
| 13:16.28 | G__81 | oh got it |
| 13:16.33 | G__81 | interesting :) |
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| 13:19.01 | Jucato | yep... "interesting" is a kind way of describing it :) |
| 13:20.29 | G__81 | Jucato, i have been using KDE 3.X series and then moved to Gnome for some reason and started using it, and then yesterday thought of trying out KDE 4 and tried it out and i started liking it really and upgraded to 4.1.2 |
| 13:21.52 | G__81 | Jucato, i have an other problem too each time i boot my system i have to give the root password to mount windows drives due to which i am not able to use amarok |
| 13:21.58 | G__81 | as my music collection resides there |
| 13:22.14 | G__81 | cant i somehow make it in a way that the password is stored |
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| 13:22.55 | Jucato | hm.. that would be up to your distro's setup. I don't think KDE stores the root password anywhere |
| 13:23.17 | Jucato | mounting stuff is a distro-level setup. maybe you can set it up not to require a password to mount |
| 13:23.17 | G__81 | but in gnome it does not happen that way |
| 13:24.04 | Jucato | not sure |
| 13:24.53 | G__81 | and the other thing is that when i close amarok it closes generally it gets minimized to the notification area as an icon |
| 13:24.59 | G__81 | its not happening |
| 13:25.02 | G__81 | how do i get it there ? |
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| 13:27.54 | G__81 | Jucato, how do i fix that ? is that a bug ? |
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| 13:29.14 | W_S | G__81: use ctrl+q to quit amarok |
| 13:29.32 | G__81 | W_S, yes but when i try to minimize it it does not go to that area |
| 13:29.48 | G__81 | or rather when i click on the close button i dont see amarok running |
| 13:29.59 | G__81 | it basically gets minimized even when you close it but that does not happen |
| 13:30.59 | W_S | if you want minimize, click X... if you want quit, click ctrl+q |
| 13:31.34 | G__81 | W_S, no what happens is that when i click on close button in amarok its playing the song but i am not able to control it coz i dont see it minimized anywhere |
| 13:31.49 | G__81 | how do i add that ? |
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| 13:33.26 | W_S | mm. have you tray icon or not? |
| 13:34.06 | W_S | ...near clock |
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| 13:35.40 | G__81 | yeah it now works had to kill it |
| 13:35.53 | G__81 | W_S, any idea on how to fix the mounting issue problem ? |
| 13:36.08 | G__81 | W_S, everyime i am made to give the root password to mount windows drives |
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| 13:36.29 | G__81 | W_S, i dont want that to happen coz everytime amarok builds its database coz my songs are in that location |
| 13:37.01 | W_S | G__81: maybe /etc/fstab ? |
| 13:37.39 | G__81 | whats that i ve to add in that to fix that i ve not really played with fstab much |
| 13:38.17 | G__81 | i guess its a KDE problem coz in gnome you have an option like save it for this session alone something like that |
| 13:38.20 | G__81 | otherwise it stays on |
| 13:38.25 | G__81 | i dont give the password everytime |
| 13:38.31 | G__81 | i am facing this issue in KDE alone |
| 13:39.07 | W_S | "/dev/sdb1 /mnt/ntfs ntfs defaults 0 0" |
| 13:39.39 | G__81 | are you using Fedora 9 ? |
| 13:39.41 | W_S | and you must create /mnt/ntfs |
| 13:40.19 | W_S | i'm use asplinux |
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| 13:40.37 | W_S | it's like fedora |
| 13:40.59 | G__81 | but without doing that in KDE if you go to computer menu and open dolphin you would see the windows drives right? |
| 13:41.06 | Jucato | G__81: it's also possible that Fedora has a tool that does that. afaik neither Gnome nor KDE mess with fstab or partitions directly |
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| 13:41.50 | W_S | G__81: no. |
| 13:42.12 | W_S | G__81: tape `mount` |
| 13:42.47 | G__81 | /dev/sda5 on /media/Data_1 type fuseblk (rw,nosuid,nodev,allow_other,blksize=4096) |
| 13:42.48 | G__81 | /dev/sda6 on /media/Data_2 type fuseblk (rw,nosuid,nodev,allow_other,blksize=4096) |
| 13:42.54 | G__81 | output of mount |
| 13:43.11 | G__81 | i still have one more partition to be mounted which i have not currently |
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| 13:43.37 | G__81 | but i can see that in the dolphin manager when i click on that partition to access files, i get the box to enter password |
| 13:45.18 | G__81 | what do i do ? |
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| 13:45.25 | W_S | imho, you must edit /etc/fstab |
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| 13:46.20 | Jucato | I guess what he's saying is that in Fedora Gnome, he didn't have to edit fstab to mount such partitions |
| 13:46.40 | Jucato | and/or didn't even get asked for passwords |
| 13:46.48 | G__81 | yeah exactly |
| 13:47.08 | G__81 | coz there instead of amarok i used to use banshee |
| 13:47.24 | G__81 | and it used to pick up songs from windows from the location where amarok is picking up from now |
| 13:48.01 | W_S | kde isnt store root passwrd |
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| 13:48.10 | W_S | ...and gnome too |
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| 13:48.58 | G__81 | i am not sure who stores it but i dont use to give passwords again |
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| 13:52.10 | G__81 | is it not available in KDE 4 ? |
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| 13:53.22 | W_S | it not depend from kde |
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| 14:00.03 | Murray_B | Hi! I am reading the featureplan for kde 4.2 and it talks about "eigen 2.0" - what's that? It is difficult to google... |
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| 14:00.44 | twouters | http://www.google.com/search?q=eigen+2.0 |
| 14:00.51 | twouters | doesn't look that hard |
| 14:01.08 | W_S | Eigen 2 is a C++ template library for linear algebra (vectors, matrices, and related algorithms) |
| 14:02.11 | Murray_B | Ah, thanks! Hm, looks like I used the wrong words for google... |
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| 14:02.43 | Jucato | http://eigen.tuxfamily.org/index.php?title=Main_Page |
| 14:02.48 | Jucato | first hit I go |
| 14:02.49 | Jucato | got |
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| 14:03.09 | s0nix | hi, how can i set a window "ON ALL DESKTOP" but "only displayed in one taskbar" ? |
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| 14:12.04 | rdieter | G__81: my ntfs partions appear available in dolphin without any passwords. ?? |
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| 14:13.32 | Cazou | hey, does anyone know if there are patches added on kopete (kde 4.1.2) in openSľuse ? |
| 14:13.47 | Jucato | you'll have to ask in #opensuse-kde |
| 14:16.01 | eagles0513875 | hi Jucato |
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| 14:19.07 | Cazou | ok, thanks :) |
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| 14:22.16 | glade88 | hi.. I set my openGL method to fallback and as I clicked apply, I cant log into X any further.. Im in via tty1 using irssi.. how do I reset the graphics settings? |
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| 14:25.56 | W_S | glade88: nvidia-xconfig or Xorg --configure |
| 14:26.14 | glade88 | W_S: trying.. |
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| 14:26.57 | glade88 | W_S: xorg: command not found.. I have intel GPU.. |
| 14:27.16 | W_S | Xorg |
| 14:27.21 | glade88 | oops.. |
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| 14:28.15 | glade88 | W_S: unrecognized option --configure.. and text overflows out of tty1 screen so cant really see available options either |
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| 14:28.44 | pinotree | glade88: kwriteconfig --file kwinrc --group Compositing --key Enabled --type bool false |
| 14:28.48 | pinotree | for your user |
| 14:29.08 | W_S | glade88: sorry. Xorg -configure |
| 14:29.09 | glade88 | pinotree: trying.. |
| 14:30.13 | W_S | glade88: with one hyphen |
| 14:30.33 | et | when i move windows, they snap to other windows - i can't place them exactly a few pixels away, either they are stuck at the other window or too far away. how do you turn that off? |
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| 14:31.31 | glade88 | pinotree: no effect |
| 14:31.47 | pinotree | et: right click on the title of a window â windows configuration â moving |
| 14:31.50 | glade88 | W_S: it says.. x server already running.. plus, cant seem to kill it (restarts on killing) |
| 14:32.06 | glade88 | how do I create a new user? |
| 14:32.10 | W_S | glade88: ubuntu? |
| 14:32.10 | et | Tidus: sorry, didn't notice your reply |
| 14:32.16 | glade88 | W_S: yes |
| 14:32.23 | et | pinotree: globally |
| 14:32.24 | W_S | glade88: telinit 3 to kill x-server |
| 14:32.39 | et | pinotree: the windows i care about have no decorations |
| 14:32.40 | pinotree | et: that is globally |
| 14:32.45 | W_S | <glade88> how do I create a new user? -- man useradd |
| 14:33.05 | pinotree | et: do that in the title of any window open, no matte which |
| 14:33.07 | et | ah okay |
| 14:33.16 | et | thanks |
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| 14:34.00 | glade88 | W_S: init 3 returns no value -- assuming successful.. still says X running (even after rm /tmp/.XO-lock) |
| 14:36.02 | W_S | glade88: X restarts after `kill`? |
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| 14:36.37 | glade88 | W_S: yes.. also created new user using: useradd uname -d /home/uname -m and then did passwd uname |
| 14:37.00 | glade88 | W_S: when logged in, I see the disk icon fading and then it freezes on the KDE4.1 splash |
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| 14:37.42 | glade88 | W_S: okay.. logged in using new user |
| 14:38.28 | glade88 | W_S: yes, sudo killall Xorg restats X |
| 14:38.32 | W_S | glade88: you can also boot in recovery mode to reset x-settings =) |
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| 14:39.43 | glade88 | W_S: erm. maybe, I removed it when I installed grub2.. I'll check.. thanks.. but btw, if I log in using root, how do I specify that I am configuring X for my uname but not root? |
| 14:41.04 | W_S | glade88: hmm idont know( |
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| 14:41.50 | glade88 | W_S: ok.. ty.. rebooting |
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| 14:44.06 | JCS | I cant connect to my web.de account with Kmail, anyone has an Idea? |
| 14:44.27 | JCS | I've stored the password in kwallet (and if I look in it, it's correct), but still |
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| 14:45.29 | gkiagia | JCS: with what protocol? |
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| 14:47.53 | JCS | gkiagia: POP3 without encryption |
| 14:48.06 | JCS | it tells me "sever response: Incorrect user or password" |
| 14:48.07 | gkiagia | and what is the error? |
| 14:49.05 | gkiagia | maybe you have entered the full email address as username instead of just the username? |
| 14:49.14 | JCS | hm.. may I put you on hold for 15 minutes? |
| 14:49.25 | gkiagia | no problem |
| 14:50.00 | JCS | now it says "[15:48] Finished transfer for Account web.de. No new Messages"... that's odd, it means that he logged into the account, right? |
| 14:50.33 | gkiagia | probably |
| 14:50.39 | gkiagia | but I am not sure about that |
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| 14:56.25 | localh0st | What is name of archiver for KDE 4.1? |
| 14:56.37 | gkiagia | ark |
| 14:57.59 | localh0st | Thanks, i check it |
| 14:58.52 | glade88 | W_S: didn't help.. though the new username is okay, but how do I add it to sudoers? on trying to sudo <anything> it says that it's not in the sudoers file |
| 14:59.33 | localh0st | Hm, i cant find this in repo... |
| 14:59.36 | glade88 | plus, I remember using useradd <uname> and it would ask about Name and stuff, but that was via konsole. is that a script? how can I invoke what? |
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| 14:59.57 | W_S | glade88: forexample you may add usr to group `admin` |
| 15:00.47 | W_S | ...for sudo |
| 15:01.17 | glade88 | W_S: I added it to 'users' .. i'll try adding it to admin.. |
| 15:02.18 | W_S | glade88: "how can I invoke what?" invoke what? |
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| 15:03.15 | glade88 | W_S: invoke the script, if any, which automates all actions like adding to group etc.. |
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| 15:04.35 | W_S | glade88: for new users or for user `uname`? |
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| 15:05.13 | glade88 | W_S: yes |
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| 15:05.46 | glade88 | W_S: okay, it is in the sudoers now.. but I dont have a bash prompt.. ie $PROMPT may be empty |
| 15:06.52 | W_S | glade88: useradd -s /bin/bash |
| 15:06.56 | glade88 | W_S: and copying .bashrc from /home/glade to /home/newuser doesnt help |
| 15:07.31 | glade88 | W_S: I left that as it was advised in the manpage.. trying.. |
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| 15:11.35 | glade88 | W_S: works! did I miss anything else? I can log into root, so Im in sudoers group, I have bash.. hope there isnt anything left out that comes in by default? |
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| 15:12.56 | W_S | glade88: check home directory for your new user |
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| 15:13.10 | ArShAm | hi all |
| 15:13.17 | ArShAm | I think I'm missing something! |
| 15:13.30 | ArShAm | in intrepid , I still wanna use kde3 |
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| 15:13.47 | ArShAm | is it going to be removed from the repos? |
| 15:14.22 | Half-Left | ArShAm: Ask your distro channel |
| 15:14.33 | glade88 | W_S: yes, I set it as -d /home/newusername |
| 15:14.50 | ArShAm | ok |
| 15:14.52 | W_S | glade88: thats all |
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| 15:15.17 | glade88 | W_S: i'll copy all files from the original one to the new one.. thanks a lot for all the help :D ty.. |
| 15:15.18 | Half-Left | ArShAm: It's down to them I'm afraid not KDE |
| 15:15.46 | buntfalke | Jaymuhz: you shouldnt do that |
| 15:15.50 | ArShAm | Half-Left, thanks |
| 15:16.07 | nogagplz | Jaymuhz: What's with the version request? |
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| 15:16.18 | Jaymuhz | buntfalke: why? I wanted to see what the most popular KDE irc client was =P |
| 15:16.22 | W_S | glade88: =) |
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| 15:17.17 | W_S | Jaymuhz: and what?) |
| 15:17.38 | Jaymuhz | looks like is just xchat |
| 15:17.56 | buntfalke | Jaymuhz: then you're supposed to ask. it is against irc netiquette. use popcon.debian.org or similar pages to see that |
| 15:18.25 | buntfalke | the most popular kde client is konversation, followed by kvirc and ksirc if you'd ask for my opinion |
| 15:18.44 | Maxa | and the best is kvirc of course ;) |
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| 15:18.48 | buntfalke | plus, my client for instance purposefully gives a false response, and i bet others do likewise rather often |
| 15:19.03 | yao_ziyuan | i finally get sick of kde4 |
| 15:19.10 | Jaymuhz | buntfalke: pffft netiquette, its the internet who cares. but w/e. sorry |
| 15:19.18 | yao_ziyuan | after using it since this august |
| 15:19.29 | Jaymuhz | buntfalke: well i dont care if its a fake responce, since its not really important |
| 15:19.30 | yao_ziyuan | actually, the Oxygen style and kwin are good |
| 15:19.48 | yao_ziyuan | what is bad is the black taskbar with translucency |
| 15:19.53 | buntfalke | if it's not really important, be polite, and use popcon.debian.org or whatever to check how many people have app x installed |
| 15:20.00 | yao_ziyuan | black isn't bad; what's bad is the translucency of the taskbar |
| 15:20.35 | yao_ziyuan | it mixes the wallpaper's colors with the taskbar and the result looks really indecent |
| 15:20.45 | Zarin | yao_ziyuan, why don't you change it then? |
| 15:20.57 | yao_ziyuan | Zarin: how to change taskbar's translucency? |
| 15:21.12 | Zarin | yao_ziyuan, right-click the desktop and change the theme |
| 15:21.29 | yao_ziyuan | Zarin: other plasma themes don't have translucency? |
| 15:21.38 | Zarin | Depends on the theme |
| 15:21.42 | Zarin | Some do, some don't |
| 15:21.49 | Jaymuhz | anyway done. bye |
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| 15:22.07 | DrSlony | Help, when I middle click on a jpg, I get this error: /home/drslony/downloads/screen.png is a file, but a folder was expected. |
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| 15:39.48 | jeffto | hello there |
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| 15:40.27 | jeffto | I've one problem with KDETwitter, is there a way to change coding to UTF-8? I can't use ' or ñ |
| 15:40.43 | jeffto | any idea? |
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| 15:47.06 | rindolf | Hi all! Now that I set Oxygen as a theme explicitly I'm getting the following warning when running Gtk+ apps from konsole. |
| 15:47.07 | rindolf | (gvim:11645): Gtk-WARNING **: Theme directory scalable/animations/small/16x16 of theme oxygen has no size field |
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| 16:00.54 | rdieter | rindolf: I've seen that too, ot |
| 16:01.00 | sorteal | Zzzzz -.- |
| 16:01.13 | rdieter | too even, mostly a harmless warning, but fixable (I plan on helping do that soonish) |
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| 16:07.48 | rindolf | rdieter: any way to fix it here? |
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| 16:09.16 | rdieter | rindolf: need to fix oxygen/index.theme, it's not hard, but not trivial either. |
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| 16:09.53 | rindolf | rdieter: ah. |
| 16:10.05 | rindolf | rdieter: should I report a bug for it to KDE? |
| 16:10.45 | rdieter | rindolf: wouldn't hurt (when/if you do, gimme the bug#, so I know where to record when it's fixed. :) ) |
| 16:11.05 | rindolf | rdieter: OK. |
| 16:14.07 | Tidus | someone in here ping me? |
| 16:14.22 | DrSlony | 1s |
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| 16:14.56 | rindolf | rdieter: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=173688 |
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| 16:19.33 | hurfer | so ... |
| 16:19.57 | hurfer | does Safari have built-in flash support as well as built-in pdf reading ? |
| 16:20.10 | hurfer | or does safari+OSX use a flash plug-in of some kind ? |
| 16:20.10 | buntfalke | ask in #macosx |
| 16:20.11 | pinotree | this is #kde, not #apple |
| 16:20.16 | hurfer | no, I'm getting to that |
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| 16:20.24 | buntfalke | then get to it now |
| 16:20.25 | hurfer | I'm running kde and have a q. about konq |
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| 16:20.41 | buntfalke | konq can display pdfs and flash |
| 16:20.54 | hurfer | I am wondering if it is foolish for me to try to find a way to have konq do built-in pdf/flash ... that is, with no plug-in ? |
| 16:21.00 | buntfalke | pdfs via the kpart of okular or kpdf and flash via plugins (gnash or adobe flash) |
| 16:21.09 | hurfer | yeah. |
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| 16:21.19 | hurfer | which is what I do now, actually. |
| 16:21.23 | buntfalke | why would you want to do it otherwise? |
| 16:21.45 | hurfer | Is there some big downside to the way safari just does pdf/flash _built in_ that explains why all other browsers refuse to do it ? |
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| 16:22.05 | buntfalke | Of course - you lose flexibility |
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| 16:22.18 | hurfer | I run a freebsd desktop and use konq as my browser and I'd really like it to just behave like safari _in terms of_ flash/pdf |
| 16:22.25 | hurfer | ok. |
| 16:22.26 | buntfalke | using the kpdf kpart in konq is like built-in, the user doesnt notice any difference |
| 16:22.32 | nick01 | how do I set the gtk theme for firefox please ? (kde4) |
| 16:22.43 | hurfer | yeah, but I still need to do blah blah flash, and that's _not easy_ in freebsd |
| 16:22.45 | pinotree | nick01: #firefox please |
| 16:22.49 | hurfer | like no joke not easy. |
| 16:22.53 | buntfalke | nick01: for all gtk apps? with system-settings i suppose |
| 16:23.02 | hurfer | and also crashing, etc. |
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| 16:23.03 | nick01 | buntfalke: wherE ? |
| 16:23.07 | MrRat | nick01: kcmshell4 kcmgtk4 |
| 16:23.37 | nick01 | MrRat: both command not found |
| 16:23.40 | DrSlony | Help, when I middle click on a jpg file from within konqueror (kde4), I get this error: /home/drslony/downloads/screen.png is a file, but a folder was expected. .jpg are set to open in geeqie, and gwenview when embedded. |
| 16:23.43 | MrRat | nick01: run that , should open a dialog for you, if you have |
| 16:23.49 | buntfalke | nick01: install it |
| 16:23.57 | buntfalke | ask in your distro channel how |
| 16:24.05 | buntfalke | hurfer: i dont get your proble, |
| 16:24.11 | hurfer | I would really just love to have a browser that had pdf/flash _built in_ and I am happy to give up "flexibility" for that ... so my question is, are there build/package/compile options that would allow me to make a safari-like konq ? (just in that regard, of course - flash/pdf all built-in) |
| 16:24.11 | buntfalke | problem* |
| 16:24.15 | nick01 | buntfalke: what package ? |
| 16:24.20 | hurfer | buntfalke : no big problem |
| 16:24.20 | MrRat | nick01: what distro you use |
| 16:24.25 | nick01 | MrRat: gentoo |
| 16:24.34 | buntfalke | then ask in #gentoo |
| 16:24.36 | pinotree | hurfer: no, there is not way for that |
| 16:24.48 | nick01 | buntfalke: ask for both of those ? |
| 16:24.56 | hurfer | buntfalke : well ... other than run safari, I guess ... which I can't do on FreeBSD. |
| 16:25.10 | buntfalke | nick01: ask for the package needed to make the command from MrRat work |
| 16:25.18 | buntfalke | (and install it of course) |
| 16:25.20 | pinotree | hurfer: and btw, compiling support for those stuff as builtin won't solve your problems of making them working |
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| 16:25.31 | nick01 | buntfalke: tks |
| 16:25.45 | pinotree | if they do work, they will do as plugins |
| 16:25.46 | hurfer | It really is surprising that no browser that runs on X is following the safari route of "just opens things and that's that" |
| 16:25.48 | MrRat | nick01: emerge -av kcmshell gtk-engines-qt |
| 16:25.52 | hurfer | unless there is one and I don't know about it ... |
| 16:25.54 | buntfalke | hurfer: why is the approach of konq unsuitable for you? |
| 16:25.56 | SeanTater | I'm not the first to notice wiki.kde.org is down, am I? |
| 16:26.03 | buntfalke | hurfer: what is the _actual problem_? |
| 16:26.07 | nick01 | MrRat: tks :) |
| 16:26.08 | hurfer | buntfalke : as I said, flash plugin in freebsd is a nightmare |
| 16:26.20 | buntfalke | adobe flash as well? hm... |
| 16:26.21 | hurfer | like climb into the bathtub and slit your wrists nightmare. |
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| 16:26.34 | buntfalke | hehe |
| 16:26.45 | hurfer | flash7 _kind of_ works, but crashes a lot. |
| 16:26.50 | pinotree | hurfer: please do read what i said: builtin or plugins will make exactly no difference in the "it works or not" |
| 16:26.57 | hurfer | no, I understand. |
| 16:27.17 | hurfer | it was for lack of a better term that I said "compile or build" |
| 16:27.17 | hurfer | I know that. |
| 16:27.26 | hurfer | so nevermind - no big deal. |
| 16:27.27 | MrRat | nick01: make sure you are emerging the onces in the kde slot you have installed, and then run kcmshell4 kcmgtk4 as your user |
| 16:27.28 | hurfer | BUT |
| 16:27.33 | buntfalke | didnt freebsd have some kind of 'linux api implementation' which would allow you to run the linux version of konq and flash? |
| 16:27.44 | MrRat | nick01: s/onces/ones |
| 16:27.58 | buntfalke | similar to wine for running windows applications? |
| 16:28.05 | hurfer | as an aside, I am genuinely curious as to why safari is the only browser that gives you this ability to "read *" from inside a single monolithic app. |
| 16:28.10 | Half-Left | Well it's freebsd pains, the same pains Linux had to go through |
| 16:28.12 | hurfer | buntfalke : yes, and that is how I do it |
| 16:28.19 | hurfer | buntfalke : and I am saying it is hellish :) |
| 16:28.23 | pinotree | hurfer: this is what konqueror does as well |
| 16:28.23 | MrRat | buntfalke: emu-linux |
| 16:28.27 | buntfalke | i see |
| 16:28.45 | _RedGhost_ | it's not terribly complicated in debian-based distros, at least... |
| 16:29.16 | hurfer | pinotree : ... but you need a plug-in for flash and a helper app for pdf ... that is not analogous to safari ... |
| 16:29.17 | nick01 | MrRat: I already have kcmshell but gtk-engines-qt pulls kdelibs-3.5.10 |
| 16:29.18 | hurfer | which is fine. |
| 16:29.18 | buntfalke | with debian flash and kpdf kpart works really easy |
| 16:29.21 | MrRat | buntfalke: /usr/ports/emulators |
| 16:29.31 | hurfer | I'm just saying it's surprising that there is _no option_ to run a safari-like browser in X. |
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| 16:29.51 | buntfalke | MrRat: thanks, i run linux. it was a suggestive question for hurfer, but he already uses this |
| 16:30.00 | MrRat | nick01: unmask the one for your kde4 slot |
| 16:30.07 | hurfer | ok, well thanks - it will remain a mystery :) |
| 16:30.15 | nick01 | MrRat: hmm... k lets see |
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| 16:30.43 | Mescalito^ | yo |
| 16:30.46 | navetz | does anyone know how to do some basic video editing in linux? |
| 16:30.54 | Mescalito^ | is it me or has the kde trunk branch not compiled for about a week now |
| 16:30.59 | nogagplz | navetz: cinelerra? |
| 16:31.00 | Mescalito^ | with some error regarding to AbstractPtr |
| 16:31.10 | nick01 | MrRat: that was the latest version available in portage- the one that wanted kde3 libs |
| 16:31.23 | buntfalke | Mescalito^: check bug entries |
| 16:31.26 | navetz | nogagplz: I will download and try it |
| 16:31.28 | navetz | nogagplz: Thanks |
| 16:31.30 | nick01 | MrRat: gtk-engines-qt-0.8-r3 |
| 16:31.41 | Mescalito^ | buntfalke: they delete bugs about compilation |
| 16:31.56 | buntfalke | i see |
| 16:32.06 | Mescalito^ | can you compile it? |
| 16:32.36 | buntfalke | i run kde3, was just a suggestion (didnt know these kind of bugs will be deleted) |
| 16:32.42 | MrRat | nick01: hang on , im using svn kde from overlay, let me find what you want |
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| 16:33.23 | buntfalke | Mescalito^: check wether there are gentoo ebuilds for kde4 trunk code (i expect there to be some) and wether they work |
| 16:33.28 | nick01 | MrRat: ok |
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| 16:33.52 | Mescalito^ | buntfalke: are you saying the gentoo ebuilds patch compilation errors? |
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| 16:34.04 | nick01 | MrRat: so I'll need to add the svn overlay to get the latest version ? |
| 16:34.31 | MrRat | nick01: maybe, hold on |
| 16:34.35 | buntfalke | Mescalito^: no, but they might do things slightly different, filter known-breaking flags, and similar. for me it is often helpfull to look at them, when i am stuck with issues like that |
| 16:35.01 | Mescalito^ | i'm using the kde build program |
| 16:35.03 | buntfalke | Mescalito^: compilation errors are usually only patched in non-trunk ebuilds :-) |
| 16:35.07 | nick01 | MrRat: sure |
| 16:35.17 | MrRat | nick01: you should be in #gentoo-kde In this case |
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| 16:35.23 | Mescalito^ | so i figured it was a gcc 4.3.x issue |
| 16:35.35 | Mescalito^ | then looking through the code it just looks like a missing definition |
| 16:35.51 | Mescalito^ | so i'm not sure if the trunk just hasn't compiled kdebase for a week and none of the kde developers cared |
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| 16:36.14 | Mescalito^ | it seems that way, but wanted to check if someone else has managed a compile |
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| 17:16.05 | ma3x | how do you increase the buffer lines limit in konsole? |
| 17:16.53 | murrant | max3x: in kde4 Scrollback->Scrollback Options (in the menu) |
| 17:16.58 | poffof | how do i change permanently the toolbar icon size in kde4 applications? by right-clicking on the toolbar i can choose Icon Size -> (something), but that only lasts as long as the app is open |
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| 17:18.10 | ma3x | murrant: where is that scrollback option? |
| 17:18.12 | ma3x | i don't see it |
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| 17:18.49 | murrant | ma3x: what version of kde do you have? |
| 17:19.03 | poffof | also, i have set the toolbar size in System Settings -> Appearance -> Icons -> Toolbar to the smallest one, but that's not how it's displayed in applications |
| 17:19.38 | ma3x | murrant: Version: 4:3.5.5a.dfsg.1-6etch1 |
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| 17:20.50 | pumphaus | w000t |
| 17:20.59 | pumphaus | what's happened to kde-look.org & co |
| 17:21.40 | murrant | ma3x: sorry I don't have a 3.5 version available and I don't remember where it was in the config |
| 17:21.42 | pumphaus | pretty ugly right now |
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| 17:25.42 | Mabo | ciao a tutti |
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| 17:25.54 | Mabo | qualcuno sa dirmi come disinstallare kde e reinstallarlo su kubuntu 8.04 ? |
| 17:26.04 | pinotree | Mabo: #kubuntu-it please |
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| 17:26.23 | pinotree | (this is an english speaking channel, and generic kde one, not kubuntu's) |
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| 17:27.04 | Mabo | ok |
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| 17:27.46 | Mabo | I have to uninstall kde from kubuntu 8.04 and install it agai, what I hve to do ? |
| 17:28.02 | Mabo | Anyone cna help me ? :p |
| 17:28.12 | pinotree | Mabo: #kubuntu-it please, we don't support distro stuff |
| 17:28.29 | Mabo | ok thx |
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| 17:29.08 | pgib | lol.. terminated Konversation instead of leaving the channel |
| 17:29.23 | pinotree | no, he left the channel |
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| 17:31.16 | pgib | I thought the "Konversation terminated!" message is the default for closing the client |
| 17:31.41 | pgib | ah you're right "Part reason" |
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| 17:34.42 | FuriousGeorge | hey all |
| 17:35.00 | FuriousGeorge | i just installed lilo-config but i dont see where to run it, or where it should be found |
| 17:37.01 | pgib | why are you using lilo? |
| 17:37.06 | pgib | should probably be using grub |
| 17:38.18 | FuriousGeorge | pgib: grub doesnt understand my disks partitioning. im dual booting with windows sw raid for my gf |
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| 17:39.29 | pgib | and grub can bootstrap the windoze raid? |
| 17:39.34 | pgib | *can't |
| 17:40.15 | FuriousGeorge | pgib: not the 'dynamic disks' variety |
| 17:40.34 | FuriousGeorge | cant evne install itself onto the boot partition. linux userland tools dont see it |
| 17:41.00 | pgib | well - I've never had to deal with windows SW raid stuff |
| 17:41.05 | pgib | sounds like a good mess |
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| 17:41.29 | pgib | you can try installing grub on your boot partition instead of in the MBR |
| 17:41.40 | FuriousGeorge | pgib: just need to use lilo and have krenel support. you still have the correct disk nodes. unfortunately have to use windows apps for basic partition management |
| 17:41.43 | pgib | then have add Linux to the window's boot loader |
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| 17:41.59 | pgib | I'm pretty sure that is possible. Or at least, used to be |
| 17:42.00 | FuriousGeorge | but it works well, and is the only way of dual booting *nix and another os both with sw raid |
| 17:42.29 | pgib | your GF still needs window? |
| 17:42.30 | FuriousGeorge | pgib: or i could continue to use lilo and learn to configure it by hand, which i think i'd rather do |
| 17:42.35 | FuriousGeorge | the sims |
| 17:43.12 | FuriousGeorge | and i may want to play a video game at some point, so its not all bad. im doing the raid thing mostly because i can |
| 17:43.22 | pgib | ok - well I can't help you, maybe try #linux for help with lilo? |
| 17:43.28 | pgib | also |
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| 17:43.55 | FuriousGeorge | pgib: its not lilo i need help with. i was just hoping someone could explain to me how to use this kde lilo-config app i just installed |
| 17:43.57 | pgib | The Sims is apparently a well supported game in Cedega |
| 17:44.09 | FuriousGeorge | i cant find a binary and its not in system-settings |
| 17:44.22 | pgib | what is your distro? |
| 17:44.25 | FuriousGeorge | gentoo |
| 17:44.36 | pgib | do you have gentoolkit installed? |
| 17:44.39 | FuriousGeorge | i see it requires qt, so there should be a gui somewhere |
| 17:44.43 | FuriousGeorge | pgib: not yet |
| 17:44.48 | pgib | install it |
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| 17:45.00 | pgib | then you can use equery to determine which files the package provides |
| 17:45.18 | rakekniven | Hi, are there any docs about "ServiceMenus"? |
| 17:45.35 | FuriousGeorge | pgib: ive found the files using anothre means, still no binary, but ill try with equery |
| 17:45.40 | rakekniven | I would like to create some entries for krename but need some information |
| 17:46.05 | pgib | pgib: ok, should be able to do "equery files lilo-config" |
| 17:46.19 | pgib | perhaps it is a plugin for kontrol panel or something.. |
| 17:47.58 | FuriousGeorge | pgib: its a plugin for something |
| 17:48.07 | FuriousGeorge | i found the lilo.desktop file |
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| 17:50.04 | FuriousGeorge | pgib: i found it |
| 17:50.11 | pgib | what was it? |
| 17:50.18 | FuriousGeorge | kcmshell4 lilo |
| 17:50.27 | pgib | ok - good luck |
| 17:51.23 | FuriousGeorge | thanks |
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| 17:58.10 | thrashold | Hello. Is there any way to completely disable video support in Kopete? It completely hangs everytime I open settings, trying to do something stupid on my TV tuner card, so I can't configure anything. |
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| 18:00.12 | thrashold | Hm, sorry, I'm a bit sleepy and forgot to mention: I'm talking about KDE 4.1.2 |
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| 18:10.40 | brot_laptop | somehow, sftp:// doesnt work here. |
| 18:10.51 | brot_laptop | is this a known bug or am i doing something wron |
| 18:10.52 | brot_laptop | g |
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| 18:15.15 | ld50 | in korganizer, by sidebar is gone, how can i get it back? |
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| 18:18.58 | Cappyyyy | hey, the arrows in KDE doesn't work :/ |
| 18:19.13 | ld50 | http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/9897/34830746zm6.png |
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| 18:20.52 | gkiagia | brot_laptop: worksforme. are you using trunk or 4.1? |
| 18:21.14 | brot_laptop | 4.1.2 |
| 18:21.21 | gkiagia | me too, works fine :) |
| 18:22.17 | brot_laptop | damn :( |
| 18:22.26 | gkiagia | ld50: that's strange... |
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| 18:22.38 | gkiagia | brot_laptop: there is also fish:// |
| 18:22.48 | gkiagia | it does the same job... |
| 18:23.56 | brot_laptop | doesnt work, too |
| 18:24.28 | gkiagia | got a firewall on port 22? |
| 18:24.40 | gkiagia | does ssh work? |
| 18:25.29 | Cappyyyy | any1 know how to fix it :? |
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| 18:26.39 | gkiagia | Cappyyyy: that doesn't sound like a kde bug... checked your keyboard layout? checked if some app grabs keyboard focus? tried to restart X? |
| 18:27.08 | Cappyyyy | gkiagia: everything works fine in GNOME |
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| 18:29.27 | Cappyyyy | but in KDE, when i press Up Arrow, KSnapshot take screen shot, I checked Quick Buttons ,and KSnapshot is set at button Print Screen |
| 18:29.48 | Cappyyyy | i suppose that its from KDE itself |
| 18:30.37 | brot_laptop | gkiagia: yes, ssh works |
| 18:32.07 | Gentle` | just to ask, is there a way to import KDE3 settings into KDE4? More specifically, kmail filters and mailboxes and mail settings, and other kdepim specific settings |
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| 18:34.47 | Cappyyyy | well :? |
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| 18:38.12 | gkiagia | Cappyyyy: seems like something has messed up with your keyboard |
| 18:38.36 | Cappyyyy | is it possible to be some package from kde-base :? |
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| 18:39.07 | momesana | hi everybody |
| 18:40.11 | momesana | why doesn't kppp support "stupid mode"? Stupid mode known from wvdial makes it possible to isp's that require you to immediately start pppd instead of trying to login before that |
| 18:40.20 | ld50 | gkiagia, how did you migrate korganizer3's calendar to korganizer4 ? |
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| 18:41.48 | gkiagia | ld50: I didn't, I don't use korganizer :) |
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| 18:54.50 | |brot_scheibe| | someone has an idea what i could do to get the reason for my sftp problem ? |
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| 18:59.43 | gkiagia | |brot_scheibe|: does it show any error? what is its behavior? maybe check ~/.xsession-errors and/or a wireshark log |
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| 19:01.59 | |brot_scheibe| | kio_sftp(6596)/kio (kioslave) KIO::SlaveBase::openPasswordDialog: Can't communicate with kded_kpasswdserver (for queryAuthInfo)! |
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| 19:02.55 | gkiagia | hmm |
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| 19:03.25 | |brot_scheibe| | well |
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| 19:03.33 | |brot_scheibe| | i will try to install kdewallet |
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| 19:08.41 | |brot_scheibe| | ah |
| 19:08.44 | |brot_scheibe| | i found the error |
| 19:09.07 | |brot_scheibe| | * adding kde-base/kpasswdserver |
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| 19:09.12 | |brot_scheibe| | wasnt installed here |
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| 19:10.31 | Darthfrog | What is the Dashboard in KDE 4 used for? |
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| 19:13.19 | sredna | can anybody recommend a good distro for kde now that kubuntu decided to become broken? |
| 19:13.21 | _RedGhostBis_ | Darthfrog: it lets you view the widgets |
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| 19:14.09 | MrRat | sredna: Gentoo |
| 19:14.12 | pusling | sredna: debian of course. |
| 19:14.16 | gkiagia | sredna: wrong question, that won't lead you anywhere |
| 19:14.24 | poffof | sredna: broken how? |
| 19:14.24 | Darthfrog | _RedGhostBis_: You mean that Dashboard is the ying-yang icon that hides in the the upper-right corner of the desktop? |
| 19:14.32 | pusling | sredna: and debian has the friendliest packagers |
| 19:14.37 | sredna | pusling: can i install debian and expect to find packages for updates of various apps? |
| 19:14.47 | _RedGhostBis_ | gkiagia: what's wrong with distro flame wars? :) |
| 19:15.02 | _RedGhostBis_ | Darthfrog: no, that's the 'cashew' |
| 19:15.18 | Darthfrog | _RedGhostBis_: :-) |
| 19:15.20 | _RedGhostBis_ | the dashboard is the stuff you access via ctl-F12 |
| 19:15.23 | gkiagia | _RedGhostBis_: it's pointless |
| 19:15.32 | pusling | sredna: in testing and unstable, yes. and they re around as stable kubuntu stable. |
| 19:15.34 | _RedGhostBis_ | gkiagia: note the smiley |
| 19:15.36 | sredna | pusling: the main problem with kubuntu is that they do not believe in staying up to date between releases, and appearently they went mad and decided on a broken release (no kde 3 support while kde 4 is still largely in beta state) |
| 19:15.53 | gkiagia | _RedGhostBis_: yes yes :) |
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| 19:16.20 | Darthfrog | _RedGhostBis_: That's the dashboard?? What a useless piece of .... Well, if they called it Widget Manager, it might mean something. |
| 19:16.24 | sredna | pusling: sounds good to me. |
| 19:16.32 | sredna | visits debian.org |
| 19:16.55 | _RedGhostBis_ | is also on Debian, with no complaints... except that you should have a care when grabbing stuff from experimental, as it has broken kde several times in the past |
| 19:17.08 | _RedGhostBis_ | Darthfrog: well, it *does* say Plasma Dashboard |
| 19:17.34 | Darthfrog | sredna: KDE 4.1.2 is still a beta?? |
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| 19:18.15 | _RedGhostBis_ | and I wouldn't call it useless, how else could you take advantage of your plasmoid - per definition, you have windows and stuff hiding them, so it's convenient to have a mode to bring them to the foreground |
| 19:18.15 | sredna | Darthfrog: kde 4.1.2 is not released, but afaik it will not be fully usable although a lot of problems have been fixed |
| 19:18.21 | Darthfrog | _RedGhostBis_: Well, I'll assume that it's early days yet for Dashboard and that aseigo has bigger plans for it. |
| 19:18.51 | pinotree | sredna: kde 4.1.2 was released at the beginning of this month |
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| 19:19.59 | poffof | sredna: if you mean that the kde packages are not updated when a new version of kde comes out - they are, just not in the main ubuntu repository |
| 19:20.01 | sredna | pinotree: oh, then i have it. that is beta state in my experience :-) |
| 19:20.31 | Half-Left | lol, beta state |
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| 19:20.46 | sredna | poffof: i have lived for several months with digikam 0.9.3, which have some broken plugins, and there is no update anywhere |
| 19:20.48 | _RedGhostBis_ | is looking forward to the alpha of KDE 4.2 tomorrow |
| 19:21.01 | MrRat | 4.1.71 made lots of improvements for me |
| 19:21.08 | _RedGhostBis_ | hopes not to spend the alpha testing period in Fluxbox :D |
| 19:21.09 | gkiagia | it's not as stable as 3.5.9, but not a beta! |
| 19:21.31 | MrRat | Version 4.1.71 (KDE 4.1.71 (KDE 4.2 >= 20081023)) |
| 19:21.32 | sredna | Half-Left: the problem is that i actually use it for my daily needs, and if i need to work on my PC more than 2 hours, i find > 2 bugs. |
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| 19:22.03 | Half-Left | sredna: Who doesn't find bugs, dont means it's beta |
| 19:22.09 | sredna | gkiagia: it does not crash very much, but there is a lot of broken things |
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| 19:22.21 | sredna | Half-Left: for example, i often can |
| 19:22.27 | sredna | t use konqueror for ftp |
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| 19:22.52 | Half-Left | sredna: It's just your view which is the first your are to say that about 4.1 |
| 19:22.58 | MrRat | still uses kasablanca |
| 19:23.03 | sredna | Half-Left: but hey, i love kde 4, i just look forward to it becoming stable :) |
| 19:23.21 | gkiagia | sredna: I think you are experiencing the usual kubuntu brokeness...:P it's pretty stable here |
| 19:23.23 | Half-Left | sredna: KDE3 was? |
| 19:23.30 | ahmedb | hey guys, I have a problem building latest svn trunk |
| 19:23.42 | ahmedb | here is the paste http://rafb.net/p/mAYuW199.html |
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| 19:24.01 | ahmedb | I would appreciate if anyone can help :) |
| 19:24.02 | sredna | Half-Left: kde 3 rocks, mostly, from a user POV |
| 19:24.14 | sredna | Half-Left: about everything just works |
| 19:24.22 | Half-Left | sredna: I was asking if it was stable? |
| 19:24.33 | _RedGhostBis_ | uses sftp |
| 19:24.45 | sredna | Half-Left: yes, i believe so :) |
| 19:24.46 | MrRat | ahmedb: id try rebuilding qt-core |
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| 19:25.05 | Half-Left | sredna: was KDE3.1 stable and as good as 4.1? |
| 19:25.23 | localh0st | Hello |
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| 19:25.38 | sredna | Half-Left: it was not expected to. it was a lot better than 2.1, whereas kde 4.1 is not better than 3.1, it is just more fancy :) |
| 19:25.49 | localh0st | How to enable autostart num-lock key, with start KDE 4.1 new session? |
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| 19:26.15 | gkiagia | ahmedb: most probably a problem with your qt installation |
| 19:26.26 | _RedGhostBis_ | but you have a comic book plasmoid which lets you read XKCD on your desktop! How is that not better than KDE3? |
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| 19:26.57 | globeondope | hi, how can i completely turn off the access key thing in konqueror? they keep popping up all the time although i don't wan't this "feature" to annoy me... how can this be fixed? |
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| 19:27.08 | gkiagia | localh0st: systemsettings->keyboard and mouse |
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| 19:27.24 | localh0st | I cant find it there :/ |
| 19:28.25 | MrRat | localh0st: at Keyboard it should say "Numlock on KDE Startup" .... and have 3 options on off and unchanged |
| 19:28.28 | _RedGhostBis_ | and you have several improvements over kde 3, really (systemsettings, the new launcher, oxygen...) |
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| 19:29.50 | pinotree | globeondope: kde version? |
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| 19:30.30 | localh0st | MrRat: i havent got it there, i want to install full kde packages, becvouse i have only workspace |
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| 19:31.00 | rjent | Greetings, I am having troubles getting kdm to accept xdmcp request on a clean install of lenny on a thin client session server. Could someone offer me some assistance? |
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| 19:31.29 | globeondope | pinotree, 4.1 |
| 19:31.51 | globeondope | i heard there was a solution for 3.x but it doesn't work for me |
| 19:31.51 | pinotree | globeondope: it's in the konqueror preferences, web behaviour section if i remember correctly |
| 19:33.14 | globeondope | pinotree, i think i can't find such an option unfortunately, do you mean "settings->configure konqueror"? |
| 19:33.21 | pinotree | yes |
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| 19:34.32 | globeondope | can't find anything, sorry, could you guide me? |
| 19:35.10 | globeondope | btw, i read on a blog that it is possible to use a webkit backend in konqueror, how can i set this up? Khtml is just to broken unfortunately.. |
| 19:35.33 | MrRat | localh0st: what distro? |
| 19:36.00 | ahmedb | gkiagia: hey thanks .. I'll check my qt |
| 19:36.14 | localh0st | MrRat: Arch |
| 19:36.40 | ahmedb | gkiagia: do I install qt from qt-copy? |
| 19:37.13 | gkiagia | ahmedb: probably |
| 19:37.40 | pinotree | globeondope: settings â configure konqueror â web browsing â enable access keys |
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| 19:38.17 | globeondope | pinotree, thank you so much! I *love* you!! |
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| 19:38.29 | MrRat | localh0st: pacman -S kde |
| 19:38.32 | pinotree | if you are a girl, i would believe you :P |
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| 19:39.23 | globeondope | hehe, any idea with the webkit backend? Blogpost was by aseigo, but it didn't mention how to set konqueror to use webkit |
| 19:39.55 | _RedGhostBis_ | globeondope: don't know about the backend, but you can try arora if you need a decent webkit-based browser |
| 19:40.04 | localh0st | MrRat: i know, but i want install it without some packages, like kdegames |
| 19:40.31 | localh0st | What is in kdetoys package? Games or something like that? |
| 19:40.39 | globeondope | yeah i have aurora installed, though i need an browser with form completion and the like to work fluently:/ and good kde integration, would be nice |
| 19:40.52 | Half-Left | localh0st: No just silly stuff :p |
| 19:41.07 | MrRat | localh0st: try your distro channel |
| 19:41.37 | localh0st | MrRat: people there using fluxbox, xfce, gnome, they not like kde much :P |
| 19:42.00 | localh0st | Half-Left: hmm ;D |
| 19:42.33 | _RedGhostBis_ | globeondope: actually, since FF 3 lets you choose the application you want for opening a given type of file and select your filebrowser to open the directory the file has been downloaded too, most of my integration annoyances are gone |
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| 19:43.26 | _RedGhostBis_ | now, we just need FF-QT4 to mature so the evil buggy useless gnome filepicker can be buried at the bottom of the sea |
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| 19:43.48 | localh0st | _RedGhostBis_: its true! :) |
| 19:44.05 | localh0st | Imho, FF on Qt librares will be so nice |
| 19:44.13 | _RedGhostBis_ | definitely |
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| 19:44.41 | _RedGhostBis_ | that's the only gtk app I use regularly - along with pidgin since kopete doesn't like yahoo too much |
| 19:45.25 | _RedGhostBis_ | pours gasoline on the GTK filepicker and lights a match |
| 19:45.43 | localh0st | i dont like gtk applications on kde /qt envirnoment/ but i must using it- firefox, pidgin... |
| 19:45.54 | Darthfrog | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:46.00 | Half-Left | _RedGhost_: Not a good thing to say about opensource projects like that |
| 19:46.04 | _RedGhostBis_ | bah, real men use irssi :) |
| 19:46.07 | globeondope | pinotree, i don't want to annoy you, but the option doesn't seem to work, saying if i disable the access key thing, the box is checked again and the feature is enabled again when i visit the config tab the next time. |
| 19:46.14 | _RedGhostBis_ | Half-Left: well, I'm sorry but it is true |
| 19:46.59 | _RedGhostBis_ | It's not to say that everything GTK is worthless, far from it, but the filepicker is omnipresent and annoying so many ways |
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| 19:48.44 | localh0st | I saw Firefox on Qt beta version, but i dont remeber where it was |
| 19:49.16 | MrRat | localh0st: you can tell ff to use your kde theme / widgets |
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| 19:50.04 | localh0st | Meybe it was like that: http://browser.garage.maemo.org/news/10/ |
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| 19:53.17 | localh0st | Wow, its work but so slowly... |
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| 19:54.30 | _RedGhostBis_ | I'm trying to build from source, out of curiosity |
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| 19:55.07 | DrSlony | Help, what should my regexp in klipper be to open http in firefox? |
| 19:55.10 | DrSlony | firefox3 that is |
| 19:55.32 | DrSlony | i had this but it looks unnecesarily complicated, and it doesnt work with firefox3 (i updated to ff3 just now) |
| 19:55.34 | DrSlony | ps x |grep -q '[f]irefox' && firefox -remote openURL(%s, new-window) || firefox %s |
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| 19:57.52 | ahmedb | hey guys I cannot compile qt-copy from svn now .. here is the paste http://rafb.net/p/NVXinA99.html |
| 19:58.42 | blip- | hi, is there a way to have KDE DPI setting change between 96 and 120 dpi based on wether i've got an external monitor connected to my laptop or not ? I mean can KDE make this decision during it's boot before it actual starts X at which point its too late |
| 19:58.53 | buntfalke | ahmedb: looks like broken code, try again later |
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| 19:59.41 | ahmedb | oh .. yeah it seemed so .. although I did not expect qt will be continuously updated in qt-copy though :D |
| 19:59.47 | buntfalke | blip-: if you select automatic in kcontrol / system-settings the x-server should handle it. wether it will also change once it is started, i can't tell you |
| 20:00.06 | buntfalke | blip-: in that case, do it manually / via a script / ... |
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| 20:01.56 | blip- | buntfalke: hmm i see. so scripts can be run during system boot ie before X even starts.. i'll check that out . t hanks |
| 20:02.40 | buntfalke | blip-: of course, the whole init system is made with scripts plus init itself |
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| 20:05.58 | Half-Left | lol |
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| 20:06.37 | Half-Left | Got to love some peoples definition of beta |
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| 20:11.34 | blip- | i am beta |
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| 20:16.38 | KotBehemot | any body knows how to make twinvie working on kde4? |
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| 20:25.12 | blip- | is it possible to manually modify the lenght of the KDE panel to *exceed* the width of the monitor ? ie more than the 100% setting which is available to us. |
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| 20:25.38 | thiago_home | why would you want that? |
| 20:25.44 | thiago_home | how would you access the invisible parts? |
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| 20:29.31 | HeMan | Hi! I just started to use KDE and found that there seem to be no standard for changing tabs with the keyboard |
| 20:30.12 | thiago_home | there is |
| 20:30.18 | HeMan | konsole uses ctrl+pgup/pgdown, konqueror uses ctrl+,/. and kvirc uses alt-left/right arrow |
| 20:30.21 | thiago_home | Ctrl+, and ctrl+. |
| 20:30.26 | ewoerner | what happened to wiki.kde.org ? |
| 20:30.43 | HeMan | should I file bugs on kvirc and konsole then? |
| 20:30.55 | ewoerner | that database error has been there for at least a day, who should i talk to? |
| 20:31.56 | thiago_home | HeMan: no |
| 20:32.05 | thiago_home | HeMan: konsole can't use those shortcuts |
| 20:32.33 | HeMan | thiago_home: why? |
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| 20:33.16 | thiago_home | because simple-modifier shortcuts (Ctrl+ and Alt+) are reserved to the applicataions running in the terminal |
| 20:33.36 | thiago_home | we can only use complex shortcuts (Ctrl+Alt+) or things that aren't representable in the terminal |
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| 20:34.06 | HeMan | why is that keyboard combination chosen? |
| 20:34.48 | thiago_home | left and right |
| 20:34.55 | thiago_home | look at your (US-layout) keyboard |
| 20:35.03 | DrSlony | Help, when I click on a file's icon in konqueror (kde4) i see a + or - symbol, what does that do? |
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| 20:35.14 | thiago_home | DrSlony: click it. What happens? |
| 20:35.19 | DrSlony | changes to + |
| 20:35.21 | DrSlony | changes to - |
| 20:35.25 | DrSlony | and it goes round and round :P |
| 20:35.28 | thiago_home | move the mouse away |
| 20:35.32 | thiago_home | do it to another file |
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| 20:36.21 | DrSlony | ah, magic |
| 20:36.22 | DrSlony | ;] |
| 20:36.32 | HeMan | but why not a keyboard combination that could work everywhere? |
| 20:36.54 | thiago_home | which combination? |
| 20:37.24 | HeMan | well, the one that konsole uses, ctrl+pgup/pgdown could work |
| 20:37.35 | thiago_home | konsole uses shift+left and shift+right |
| 20:37.52 | thiago_home | which are used for auto-scrolling in Konqueror |
| 20:38.04 | HeMan | hmm, I use ctrl+pgup/pgdown |
| 20:38.34 | thiago_home | that's not the standard |
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| 20:39.30 | thiago_home | I've been wondering why Ctrl+PgUp and Ctrl+PgDown aren't the standard, since they are meaningful for more people |
| 20:39.32 | HeMan | is there any problem with using ctrl+pgup/pgdown everywhere? |
| 20:39.40 | thiago_home | most people don't see the < and > in their keyboards |
| 20:40.12 | HeMan | well, I have a swedish keyboard and < and > are on the same key, just left of Z |
| 20:40.29 | HeMan | on , and . there is ; and : |
| 20:41.05 | thiago_home | exactly |
| 20:41.12 | thiago_home | on the US keyboard, , and . are under < and > |
| 20:41.18 | thiago_home | hence why they are used for direction |
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| 20:41.34 | HeMan | I know, I sometimes has to use US keyboard to |
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| 20:42.57 | HeMan | oh well, I just switched from gnome to kde since I've heard that it's more standardized |
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| 20:43.54 | HeMan | I'll guess I shold switch back than since this annoys me to much |
| 20:44.04 | thiago_home | change it |
| 20:44.17 | thiago_home | KDE allows you to change pretty much any shortcut |
| 20:44.43 | HeMan | but do I have to change on every new application that I start to use then? |
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| 20:50.08 | MrRat | HeMan: SystemSetting / Keyboard and Mouse / Global Shortcuts |
| 20:50.15 | Half-Left | kdepimlibs seems to take alot longer to compile in trunk |
| 20:51.56 | HeMan | MrRat: I have no global shortcuts |
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| 21:01.46 | ambro951 | Where does Qt4 get styles from? It's somehow using styles from my svn kde build, although I never said it to. |
| 21:02.19 | HeMan | MrRat: any ideas? |
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| 21:05.28 | Half-Left | ambro951: Qt4 comes with a few styles |
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| 21:08.43 | lucax | hey guys, ive a question, do kde 3 themes work in kde4? |
| 21:08.49 | pinotree | no |
| 21:09.37 | lucax | is there any web page like kde-look for kde4? there are so less themes for kde4 there... |
| 21:09.50 | ambro951 | Half-Left: I launched a trunk build, which has new scollbar style, and now I also have these scrollbars in 4.1. The style is still Oxygen. It's somehow picking up the style from my svn build, but I have no idea where these things are saved. |
| 21:10.20 | jazka | lucax: well, kde3 has been out a lot longer, so of course there's a lot of more themes for it |
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| 21:13.17 | Half-Left | ambro951: Not sure how that happened |
| 21:13.35 | lucax | i love black themes, i cant find a nice one for kde4 |
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| 21:15.18 | hyper_ch | http://img389.imageshack.us/img389/9830/specstuxyp4.jpg |
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| 21:26.05 | blip- | is it possible to manually modify the lenght of the KDE panel to *exceed* the width of the monitor ? ie more than the 100% setting which is available to us. .... The reason i need to do this is i've got multiple monitors all running the same X session at the sam resolution and size... so i want to stretch it across 2 screens basically.. |
| 21:27.07 | _RedGhostBis_ | blip-: don't know about that, but wouldn't it be more convenient to just have on desktop on each screen? |
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| 21:29.12 | blip- | _RedGhostBis_: well i currently have 3 monitors so i can drag windows from one screen to another which is very convenient. basically i think the way to make the panel longer is if there is a way to fool just the panel into thinking my monitor dimensions are larger than they are. |
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| 21:29.55 | _RedGhostBis_ | blip-: can't help you there :( |
| 21:31.26 | blip- | _RedGhostBis_: np. thanks :) |
| 21:31.30 | Moonshine | howdy... here is a shot in the dark, but why not... I'm trying to find out of the "Crystal SVG" icon set was ever actually relased in SVG :) I see this info floating around "this version is known as "SVG", the icons are still in PNG format, the SVG files will be relased once the support for the format improves in KDE." But ?? |
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| 21:38.23 | Half-Left | Moonshine: They are in kdeartwork |
| 21:38.43 | Moonshine | thanks!!! |
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| 22:28.50 | sayers | how do I do a parabolic function in KAlgebra ? |
| 22:29.11 | wiscados | 2x^2+2 |
| 22:29.30 | irina_r | you beat me by seconds! |
| 22:30.31 | wiscados | haha! |
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| 22:31.36 | sayers | Awesome!\ |
| 22:31.54 | sayers | it'd be nicer if there was a GTK program for it but this'll do very well, beats having to... dare I say.. think! |
| 22:32.19 | sayers | thoguh I wish I could get the table off of it. |
| 22:32.29 | irina_r | the grid? |
| 22:32.34 | irina_r | I think you can make it invisible |
| 22:32.34 | thiago | use the GTK style |
| 22:32.39 | thiago | then you won't be able to tell the difference |
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| 22:33.01 | sayers | no irina_r , I mean the table coordinates |
| 22:33.09 | sayers | like when x = 1 , y = 4 |
| 22:33.11 | sayers | or whatever. |
| 22:33.16 | irina_r | I'd have to ask my daughter but she's in bed |
| 22:33.22 | irina_r | (she's the one who uses it) |
| 22:36.50 | wiscados | irina_r: can't you click on the graph and thee the x and y coordinates at the bottom? |
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| 22:37.27 | irina_r | one moment, not installed on this computer |
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| 22:39.19 | llama_ | can anyone tell me why kopete lists my buddies twice? |
| 22:41.19 | squarebottle | llama_: Do you have more than one account set up with kopete? |
| 22:42.22 | squarebottle | llama_: If you do, then it's probably just displaying your buddies from both accounts. |
| 22:42.32 | llama_ | nope one account |
| 22:42.38 | llama_ | and it is only setup once |
| 22:42.43 | squarebottle | llama_: Then it's being weird for you. :P |
| 22:42.50 | llama_ | sometimes my buddies are duplicated 3 times like right now |
| 22:42.55 | llama_ | but it is usually just 2 |
| 22:43.02 | nogagplz | kdemultimedia does not compile with xine-lib 1.1.15, but it does with 1.1.14, this is known yes? |
| 22:43.07 | squarebottle | llama_: What happens if you try to delete one of them? Does it delete all three? |
| 22:44.29 | irina_r | wiscados: it keeps telling me "selected viewport too small" |
| 22:44.38 | irina_r | I do need my 14-year-old daughter :-) |
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| 22:44.45 | llama_ | odd.. it only erases one |
| 22:44.49 | irina_r | she's the one plagued with algebra |
| 22:46.37 | wiscados | irina_r: odd, but I don't have kalgebra installed, I'm working from memory here. But if selected viewpoint is too small, I'd guess you could zoom in(?) |
| 22:47.52 | irina_r | okay, that works |
| 22:48.03 | irina_r | did you want to get rid of the blue numbers? |
| 22:49.02 | irina_r | oh! I know what it means, it thinks I'm trying to select an area with no width to zoom in on |
| 22:49.07 | irina_r | user error! |
| 22:49.21 | irina_r | I was trying to click on the numbers to see if I could do anything with them |
| 22:49.38 | wiscados | ah.. |
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| 22:51.07 | ninjafury | guys, trying to force kde to start X with a specific dpi by default. How do I do this? |
| 22:51.13 | blip- | hi, is there a parameter to give to konversation to make the main window not show up on start up ? ie to have it minimize to tray immediately. I checked kde --help-all and it doesn't seem to have. any other way to accomplish this ? thanks |
| 22:52.54 | ninjafury | I've done it once by editing the kderc file in /etc/kde4/kdm. But this file doesn't exist in this system. There is only a backgroundrc file. Is there a way to get it going? |
| 22:53.44 | blip- | i'm talking about kde3 btw. |
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| 22:54.44 | ninjafury | blip-: yeah I'm asking a different question. |
| 22:55.09 | blip- | oh. ok |
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