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| 00:04.10 | lilltiger | driva2009: now i am |
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| 00:04.40 | driva2009 | yahaa... :) Did you see my last msg about the file permissions? |
| 00:04.52 | Khas | Is there anyway to make links open in a currently existing konqueror, if that konqueror is on another desktop? |
| 00:05.41 | driva2009 | all the file permissions in the config area in my own .kde folder are fine. thor.thor / rwxr--r--, lilltiger |
| 00:05.41 | lilltiger | driva2009: yes, hmm try to make all the changes you want, then tepe: kquitapp plasma; plasma & in an konsloe |
| 00:05.56 | driva2009 | ok hold on a mo |
| 00:05.58 | driva2009 | :) |
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| 00:06.55 | driva2009 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 00:07.12 | driva2009 | point is, the icons and plasma DID come up properly this time. |
| 00:07.49 | lilltiger | driva2009: there might be an syntax error on the plasma files. Lets see that pastebin :) |
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| 00:08.48 | driva2009 | Sure! http://pastebin.ca/1240137 |
| 00:09.36 | driva2009 | lilltiger: brb - i'm just running off for a coffee before i doze off... :) |
| 00:09.53 | djouallah | please can any dev here update the kde4.2 release schedule, till now there is no alpha release |
| 00:10.45 | lilltiger | driva2009: try to rename the plasmarc and the plasma-appletrc in the .kde/share/config/ folder, seems like an crash/applet screwed with your config |
| 00:11.30 | lilltiger | djouallah: why would they bother, alpha isent anything intresting anyway |
| 00:13.15 | impulze_ | lilltiger: write one, now! :P |
| 00:13.24 | impulze_ | stamps and demands |
| 00:13.37 | lilltiger | im not a dev :p |
| 00:13.51 | impulze_ | you don't have to be a dev to write plasma addons :P |
| 00:14.03 | driva2009 | one sec i got a keyboard malfunction. 4 keys stick together with turkish coffee... :) |
| 00:14.17 | impulze_ | driva2009: yuck, turkish coffee? |
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| 00:14.30 | impulze_ | i thought coffee is from south america :P |
| 00:14.31 | lilltiger | impulze_: the 4.2 trunk have been better then any previuosly kde alpha, so just go for trunk insted |
| 00:15.03 | driva2009 | yup. very thick and sticky, and sweet. kinda like glyko, in greece... |
| 00:15.06 | impulze_ | lilltiger: i've seen many things not compiling too, and this laptop should have at least somewhat stable software :P |
| 00:15.28 | djouallah | lilltiger, i think i have ocd, seeing the erronus release schedule hurt me ;) |
| 00:15.45 | impulze_ | lilltiger: unless 4.2 offers a volume bar plasma thing |
| 00:15.48 | impulze_ | lilltiger: then i'm sold |
| 00:15.52 | lilltiger | impulze_: true, i got an know to compile arch version then just upgraded the parts that did compile :) |
| 00:16.39 | lilltiger | impulze_: nope, not yet :) I could make one but better to wait with stuff like that an make em in python insted of c++ |
| 00:16.50 | impulze_ | lilltiger: well shell can make it easily |
| 00:16.54 | driva2009 | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:16.59 | impulze_ | lilltiger: say, amixer sget Master playback |
| 00:17.00 | impulze_ | done :P |
| 00:17.11 | impulze_ | that gives a value and you just have to transform that value into some kind of bar |
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| 00:17.23 | lilltiger | driva2009: backup, or remove em.. just so plasma can recreate em |
| 00:17.29 | driva2009 | ok |
| 00:18.05 | driva2009 | you want that i should restart the session and see what happens? |
| 00:18.07 | lilltiger | impulze_: yes it's very easy and nothing that should be done with c++ :) |
| 00:18.27 | lilltiger | driva2009: kquitapp plasma; plasma & |
| 00:18.38 | lilltiger | no need to restart the whole session |
| 00:18.44 | driva2009 | ok :) |
| 00:18.46 | driva2009 | one mo |
| 00:19.46 | impulze_ | lilltiger: who said i want to do that in c++? |
| 00:19.51 | impulze_ | lilltiger: i want shell! |
| 00:20.09 | impulze_ | system("sh foo"); :P |
| 00:20.12 | driva2009 | J*s*s, Mary and Joseph!!! The panel has come back, lilltiger - but the error now looks like war and peace! |
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| 00:20.23 | impulze_ | what's peace? |
| 00:20.28 | impulze_ | that urban legend? :o |
| 00:20.34 | driva2009 | All the widgets are intact and correctly placed though :) |
| 00:20.37 | lilltiger | impulze_: well there is an JS script engine for plasma might be a bit shell like :) |
| 00:20.47 | driva2009 | i'll bin the new one up for you, lilltiger |
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| 00:21.15 | impulze_ | driva2009: if i was you i wouldn't trust lilltiger one bit |
| 00:21.26 | impulze_ | driva2009: he's mean and he'll stab you in the back once you turn around |
| 00:21.27 | lilltiger | :p |
| 00:22.08 | lilltiger | impulze_: ofcourse, but untill he turn around I will be nothing but nice and thruthfull! |
| 00:22.20 | impulze_ | yeah, i know |
| 00:23.16 | driva2009 | impulze_: I wouldn't trust me as far as you could throw me, I can be a mean little s.o.b when I want to... |
| 00:23.18 | driva2009 | :) |
| 00:23.24 | driva2009 | lilltiger: - http://pastebin.ca/1240147 |
| 00:23.47 | impulze_ | driva2009: are you some kind of terminator? just wondering because of that current_year+1 in your nick |
| 00:24.06 | driva2009 | nope, thats my os and version, impulze_ |
| 00:24.13 | impulze_ | driva2009: yuck :P |
| 00:24.18 | driva2009 | driva (Mandriva) 2009 |
| 00:24.27 | lilltiger | driva2009: what #distro my guess is that yourdistro is backporting stuff and thats why you get thoes errors and issues |
| 00:24.33 | impulze_ | lilltiger: hmhm i wonder if i could fire up something easy on my own, if i'd know how to do that and if i'd already have a bar-like thing i could use |
| 00:24.59 | driva2009 | lilltiger: i am in mandriva 2009.0 - running kde 4.1.2 |
| 00:25.11 | impulze_ | how can it be 2009.0? |
| 00:25.14 | impulze_ | it's not even 2009! |
| 00:25.22 | driva2009 | fhs.... |
| 00:25.31 | impulze_ | pf |
| 00:25.36 | driva2009 | this is our new release for the coming season... |
| 00:25.42 | lilltiger | impulze_: a simple Plasma::Applet using an QtSlide widget in an QProyWidget would probly do it :) |
| 00:26.04 | driva2009 | which is why a lot of us are using it as a way of ironing out all the bugs so we can clean it up. not that there are many of course... |
| 00:26.05 | impulze_ | lilltiger: you meany, you just made me want to do it on my own :( |
| 00:26.49 | impulze_ | lilltiger: but on another note, do you happen to know how i can bring my screensavers in $HOME/path/kde4 into my screensaver selection? i tried adding prefixes=/home/.../kde4 to [Directories] in ~/.kderc but that doesn't seem to do it |
| 00:27.02 | driva2009 | nevertheless, this is the first in a series of 39,000 complaints about mandriva 2009.0 :) |
| 00:27.05 | impulze_ | i rather not touch /etc for that |
| 00:27.14 | impulze_ | driva2009: 39k? |
| 00:27.18 | driva2009 | j/k |
| 00:27.20 | impulze_ | driva2009: that's almost one day at microsoft |
| 00:27.21 | impulze_ | :P |
| 00:27.23 | lilltiger | impulze_: it's very easy the thing is that c++ just inducesissues that you dont want to tackle.. cos if you do it in c++ you probly should made it an dataengine then make an applet to connect to that engine etc.. |
| 00:27.24 | driva2009 | lol |
| 00:27.47 | impulze_ | lilltiger: nah, just need something to show the vista guys off |
| 00:27.58 | driva2009 | well our bugzilla is working overtime right now, we have 44167 bugs, of which 289 are related to 2009.0 |
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| 00:28.10 | impulze_ | heh not that much :) |
| 00:28.14 | driva2009 | and the rest are about 2008.1 and prior, most of which are closed |
| 00:28.20 | lilltiger | impulze_: no idea about screensavers.. stopped using screensavers more 10 years ago :) |
| 00:28.35 | impulze_ | lilltiger: well anything else |
| 00:28.43 | impulze_ | lilltiger: it's not specific to screensavers but more to the prefix |
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| 00:29.14 | driva2009 | lilltiger: now we got that done, i wanna do a reboot and see if the plasma bar comes back up the way i have set it. |
| 00:29.26 | driva2009 | before i do, how do i manually save this session? |
| 00:29.36 | lilltiger | impulze_: no idea, I dont know stuff like that im mostly just an regular user ;D |
| 00:29.53 | impulze_ | pf as a regular user you should konw |
| 00:29.54 | impulze_ | *know |
| 00:29.55 | shadowhywind | hay all not sure if this is the right spot to ask this. But is there a way to make the Task Manager on a panel that is on the side of the screen look "less stupid?" |
| 00:30.01 | lilltiger | driva2009: just do: kquitapp plasma; plasma & |
| 00:30.12 | lilltiger | driva2009: that stores and restarts plasma |
| 00:30.28 | impulze_ | plafma |
| 00:30.28 | lilltiger | impulze_: well not if I never run into thoes issues :D |
| 00:30.46 | impulze_ | lilltiger: hmz |
| 00:30.55 | driva2009 | lilltiger: fair enough. i will do the reboot though, just to make sure it goes ok that way too... :) |
| 00:30.55 | impulze_ | lilltiger: any idea how to check if the prefix is actually parsed and considered? |
| 00:31.00 | driva2009 | see you in a moment or 3 |
| 00:31.04 | impulze_ | reboot? |
| 00:31.08 | lilltiger | shadowhywind: not yet, i think someone is working on that for 4.2 |
| 00:31.09 | impulze_ | this isn't windows :( |
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| 00:31.38 | lilltiger | Bluehat users.. |
| 00:31.41 | lilltiger | ;D |
| 00:31.53 | shadowhywind | lilltiger: one other question, is autohide the panel, which i believe is going to ber in 4.2 as well right? |
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| 00:33.04 | lilltiger | shadowhywind: it should be, but it's not working perfectly yet :) |
| 00:33.13 | shadowhywind | hehe |
| 00:33.17 | lilltiger | I just tried it.. works but acts a bit stupid :) |
| 00:33.41 | impulze_ | does qt offer a transparent slider? ekekeke |
| 00:33.46 | shadowhywind | hehe in that case it would probably break for me |
| 00:34.30 | lilltiger | impulze_: yes, you can style it and force it to not drawn an gray background. I think there already is an plasma widget for that in trunk |
| 00:35.00 | shadowhywind | not sure if this is a kde or compiz issue, but anyone else have issues with nvidia and the taskbar going all crazy |
| 00:35.09 | lilltiger | shadowhywind: when 4.2 is released it should have been fixed |
| 00:35.26 | impulze_ | lilltiger: for what exactly? |
| 00:35.33 | lilltiger | Why are you using Compiz with kde4? |
| 00:36.07 | shadowhywind | umm, because? (does kde4 do compiz stuff?) |
| 00:36.32 | lilltiger | impulze_: an Plasma::Slider that wraps an QSlider in an qgraphicproxywidget and also make it's background transparent and obeys the plasma theme |
| 00:36.51 | lilltiger | shadowhywind: yes it does, thats what Desktop Effects is all about |
| 00:37.29 | lilltiger | in 4.2 there will als be an cube, sphere, culinder for all thoes compiz lovers |
| 00:37.35 | lilltiger | cylinder |
| 00:37.41 | impulze_ | lilltiger: does kwin offer something to pull windows out of your desktop into another one? :P |
| 00:37.41 | impulze_ | just wondering |
| 00:38.09 | shadowhywind | the interesting thing, is i went into the desktop effects and it says compiz isn't isntalled... hehe |
| 00:38.09 | impulze_ | i just need something to smash windows out of the way :P |
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| 00:38.18 | impulze_ | but besides that, i rather not turn that on on my laptop |
| 00:38.23 | impulze_ | or it won't live for too long |
| 00:38.24 | lilltiger | impulze_: like draging windows cross desktops? |
| 00:38.32 | impulze_ | lilltiger: exactactactly! |
| 00:38.33 | d2009 | lilltiger: i could hug you. :) It works perfectly |
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| 00:38.46 | lilltiger | impulze_: active borders |
| 00:38.56 | impulze_ | lilltiger: how much power consuming is that? |
| 00:39.07 | impulze_ | say in a range of 1 to 10 :P |
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| 00:39.32 | lilltiger | impulze_: depends on the gpu if good drivers, about the same as switching desktops |
| 00:39.42 | impulze_ | heh |
| 00:39.50 | impulze_ | currently using the open source ati drivers |
| 00:40.05 | lilltiger | well does moving windows eat cpu? |
| 00:40.12 | impulze_ | _everything_ eats cpu |
| 00:40.19 | shadowhywind | how can i customize the effects? |
| 00:40.22 | impulze_ | i cannot really enable them |
| 00:40.36 | driva2009 | impulze_: what cpu and how much memory do you have? |
| 00:40.41 | impulze_ | i enabled the fps thing once and it showed something around 4-10 when effects were enabled |
| 00:40.49 | lilltiger | impulze_: so the cpu spikes when you move windows? |
| 00:40.55 | impulze_ | driva2009: 1024meg, amd turion x2 1600 |
| 00:41.02 | driva2009 | wow. |
| 00:41.02 | impulze_ | lilltiger: spikes? |
| 00:41.14 | impulze_ | driva2009: appearently not wow enough? :P |
| 00:41.18 | lilltiger | impulze_: kwin and x starts takes 10-90% cpu |
| 00:41.26 | lilltiger | taking.. |
| 00:41.33 | driva2009 | i'm only running a celeron 325d (2.53ghz) and 512mb memory and its as smooth as silk here... |
| 00:41.34 | impulze_ | never checked that |
| 00:41.46 | impulze_ | driva2009: ati aswell? |
| 00:42.08 | driva2009 | nope, intel 82845G/GL/GE |
| 00:42.09 | shadowhywind | oh i now think i know why i nstalled compiz outside of the desktop effects, shortcuts in kubuntu are broke |
| 00:42.25 | lilltiger | impulze_: if it does then it active borders will eat quitea bit life time as it loads the cpu otherwise the gpu shoulddo it very easy at low power |
| 00:42.40 | impulze_ | meh |
| 00:42.49 | impulze_ | may give it a shot if i get the proprietary crap to run |
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| 00:43.19 | lilltiger | open a konsole start top and move a window |
| 00:43.26 | impulze_ | can't! |
| 00:43.28 | impulze_ | compiling atm :) |
| 00:43.36 | impulze_ | if i turn on desktop effects now things will go nuts |
| 00:43.45 | lilltiger | ;D |
| 00:43.58 | impulze_ | but hey why not |
| 00:44.03 | lilltiger | active borders dosent need desktop effects actually |
| 00:44.03 | impulze_ | as long as you pay for my lost time |
| 00:44.34 | lilltiger | sure, btw you will have to pay me my support cost then :p |
| 00:44.49 | impulze_ | this is open source :P |
| 00:44.58 | impulze_ | so, active borders, where? |
| 00:45.23 | lilltiger | system settings -> window behaviour |
| 00:45.49 | lilltiger | hmm |
| 00:45.50 | lilltiger | wait |
| 00:45.52 | impulze_ | i only want those when i move windows right? |
| 00:46.04 | impulze_ | i think so |
| 00:46.15 | impulze_ | although... hm |
| 00:46.24 | lilltiger | thats up to you, always have em active with no delay and no animation at all |
| 00:46.51 | impulze_ | uh |
| 00:46.54 | impulze_ | that seems to be cool |
| 00:47.11 | impulze_ | now |
| 00:47.15 | lilltiger | and set your pager to 1 row |
| 00:47.24 | lilltiger | else you will get mad ;D |
| 00:47.33 | impulze_ | yeah figured |
| 00:47.37 | impulze_ | i could go out anywhere |
| 00:47.52 | lilltiger | when pager is a 1 row you can only go out to left and right |
| 00:48.10 | impulze_ | where do i set that again? |
| 00:48.31 | lilltiger | right click the pager |
| 00:48.38 | lilltiger | pager settings |
| 00:48.39 | impulze_ | pf |
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| 00:48.44 | impulze_ | that was the first widget i removed ;) |
| 00:48.58 | lilltiger | bring it up and set it |
| 00:49.10 | lilltiger | then you should be able to remove it again i think |
| 00:49.11 | impulze_ | yay |
| 00:49.14 | impulze_ | yea |
| 00:49.30 | impulze_ | hm |
| 00:49.33 | impulze_ | i rather had it up/down only |
| 00:49.36 | impulze_ | instead of left/right |
| 00:49.41 | impulze_ | i guess that's not possible huh? |
| 00:49.49 | lilltiger | nope not as it is now |
| 00:49.58 | impulze_ | j |
| 00:49.58 | impulze_ | k |
| 00:50.06 | impulze_ | so i need a wheel action to scroll desktops |
| 00:50.14 | impulze_ | say mouse 4 + wheel |
| 00:50.16 | impulze_ | or something |
| 00:50.49 | lilltiger | why? |
| 00:51.03 | impulze_ | much quicker then moving the cursor around |
| 00:51.05 | lilltiger | ctrl+Fx to jump to a desktop |
| 00:51.11 | impulze_ | nah mouse! |
| 00:51.22 | lilltiger | mouse wheel on the background then.. |
| 00:51.30 | lilltiger | but how slow mouse do you have! |
| 00:51.30 | impulze_ | doesn't work |
| 00:51.34 | impulze_ | that's what i tried at first |
| 00:51.43 | lilltiger | ok I have it in trunk :) |
| 00:51.46 | impulze_ | heh |
| 00:51.52 | impulze_ | that's how it should be yeah |
| 00:51.59 | lilltiger | never uses it thought |
| 00:52.04 | impulze_ | but i'd be fine if i know where to se tit |
| 00:52.07 | impulze_ | *set it too |
| 00:52.15 | lilltiger | almost never see my desktop background :) |
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| 00:52.48 | impulze_ | yeah that's why i want a mouse key |
| 00:52.58 | impulze_ | but appearently i can only set "keyboard shortcuts" |
| 00:53.02 | impulze_ | no "mouse shortcuts" :/ |
| 00:53.25 | lilltiger | I use an trackball with mouse speed 5x so if i move my fingers 1cm that the whole screen :) |
| 00:53.37 | impulze_ | ugh |
| 00:53.47 | impulze_ | but that's not of importance to me right now :D |
| 00:55.10 | lilltiger | Very funny when someone else tries to use my computer, that switch like 2 or 2 desktops when they try to move the pointer ;D |
| 00:55.49 | impulze_ | :PP |
| 00:57.15 | driva2009 | lilltiger: my mouse is set so low it takes 8 sweeps across my mousepad to cover one side to the other.... |
| 00:57.21 | driva2009 | x0.4 |
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| 00:57.45 | lilltiger | "Can I use your computer?" "Sure go ahead, I dont mind." 30sec later "What is hapening! Every thing dissapeard, then something else came of and I can move the pointer it just flies around!" |
| 00:58.03 | lilltiger | driva2009: omg! how can you live with that! |
| 00:58.15 | Guest61916 | that would be awful |
| 00:58.29 | driva2009 | i do a lot of digital art, and i like my laser pointer nice and slow, so i don't give someone a 12 cm nose or something at the flick of my wrist... |
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| 00:58.39 | driva2009 | i live with it... i like it like that |
| 00:58.51 | Guest61916 | man.. I want a Wacom |
| 00:59.19 | lilltiger | driva2009: in that case I would get 2 devices and configure them separatly |
| 00:59.39 | driva2009 | i am trying to find a tablet which works properly with linux... |
| 01:00.05 | Guest61916 | I thought it was supposed to support the Wacoms ok.. is this not true? |
| 01:00.06 | driva2009 | most of the ones i have tried have been less than useless minus several hundred points... :) |
| 01:01.09 | driva2009 | i have tried a Trust tablet, and several others with results ranging from "inaccurate" to "where's my pointer gone?" |
| 01:01.44 | driva2009 | my logitech optical mouse is the best thing i have ever used. i have had it nearly 8 years with no issues yet... |
| 01:02.25 | Guest61916 | yeah I have a logitech too.. probably had it for 5 years or so |
| 01:02.57 | Guest61916 | and a PFU Happy Hacking keyboard Pro |
| 01:03.07 | Khas | I've fallen in love with Logitech for peripherals. I just haven't a clue how to get all the buttons on my Trackman Optical working properly |
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| 01:03.57 | driva2009 | thats the other thing which bugs me in kde4, lilltiger - i have a multimedia keyboard here, and kde 3.5.10 supports a lot of the buttons without setup. kde 4 doesn't... how do i configure it? |
| 01:04.03 | lilltiger | logitech trackman marble (ver 1.) on my server it's like 14 years old i think, and logitech cordless optical trackman on my workstation 8 years old |
| 01:04.42 | driva2009 | my logitech is an M/BT98a - smoother than greased ice...and it cost me nothing. |
| 01:04.50 | Guest61916 | driva2009, my guess is it hasn't been moved to kde4 yet.. like most things |
| 01:05.27 | lilltiger | driva2009: thats an #distro thing, just konfigure your desktop shortcuts and you might have to bind some keycodes to xorg key commands |
| 01:05.41 | driva2009 | lilltiger: does showkeys still work? |
| 01:05.55 | lilltiger | maybe what is that? : |
| 01:05.58 | lilltiger | :p |
| 01:06.27 | driva2009 | the one where you start it in a konsole, and as you press a key, it shows you the keycode for it on screen? |
| 01:06.35 | lilltiger | xev |
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| 01:07.07 | driva2009 | ok, i will get the keycodes I need to allocate and see what I can do. |
| 01:07.12 | Khas | driva2009: I found showkeys to work for my keyboard at least. |
| 01:07.16 | Khas | No idea how to make them go though |
| 01:07.27 | driva2009 | Can i allocate the keyboard shortcuts through systemsettings? |
| 01:07.39 | lilltiger | xev shows the keys.. |
| 01:07.51 | Guest61916 | I think it is just called showkey right? |
| 01:08.20 | Khas | There are two, xev -and- showkey. |
| 01:08.23 | driva2009 | ok cool. I will have to have a kwrite open to note them down so I don't forget which is what, or I might have my browser button muting my TV or something stupid like that... |
| 01:08.29 | lilltiger | driva2009: nope (at least im pretty sure you cant) but after you have bound them to xorg commands you can use the kde settings to bind em to actions |
| 01:08.30 | Khas | xev I think is for evdev drivers? |
| 01:08.49 | Guest61916 | driva2009, I think it works best if X isn't running |
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| 01:09.00 | driva2009 | i have to bind them to xorg commands? how do I do that? |
| 01:09.06 | Guest61916 | because it may take full control of the keyboard device |
| 01:09.08 | driva2009 | is genuinely clueless |
| 01:09.10 | Guest61916 | driva2009, xorg.conf |
| 01:09.23 | Guest61916 | or I think so at least |
| 01:09.42 | lilltiger | in X use xev to get the keys it should work regardless of event backend for X |
| 01:09.49 | driva2009 | ok, i have never fmurrpled with xorg.conf, so i wouldn't know what to type in there. |
| 01:10.01 | shree1 | Guys, i want to link an application statically to Qt...Do you know what is the modification I need to perform? |
| 01:10.06 | lilltiger | and there is alot of guides on the interweb explining how to bind keycodes |
| 01:10.28 | driva2009 | ok, i will try and locate some, or ask in #distro for some help from them... |
| 01:10.31 | driva2009 | :) |
| 01:11.18 | lilltiger | shree1: you need to compile qt to allow staticaly linking, include that stuff with your app, recompile your app with the correct flags.. ask google.. althought on nix* you shouldent use statical lining |
| 01:11.19 | Guest61916 | shree1, #qt ? |
| 01:11.39 | shree1 | Guest61916: I am also on that channel :) |
| 01:11.45 | Guest61916 | but lilltiger is right - static linking is bad |
| 01:11.53 | Guest61916 | esp. for a massive lib like Qt |
| 01:12.23 | lilltiger | I'm always right, one of the most annoying things about me |
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| 01:12.55 | shree1 | lilltiger: pgib: I need to put this app on a system with older version of Qt and cannot be modified... |
| 01:13.35 | shree1 | lilltiger: pgib: I need only Qtcore, Qtgui, qtopengl |
| 01:13.35 | pgib | can't you ship it with the .so? |
| 01:13.53 | lilltiger | exactly |
| 01:14.04 | pgib | that's what we do on our program for Windows users, we compile a DLL and ship with it |
| 01:14.05 | shree1 | pgib: will that work?? |
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| 01:15.41 | shree1 | pgib: I meant will that work on Linux...the reason being I have never come across this idea |
| 01:15.48 | lilltiger | shree1: just make sure you name the .so differently from the already installed ones |
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| 01:16.54 | shree1 | lilltiger: I can rename it differently but how do I make my app look for the renamed file though?? |
| 01:18.09 | lilltiger | shree1: when you compile(link) your app just give it the lib you want to link with.. |
| 01:18.28 | lilltiger | check the manual for your linkeeeer/make/compiler |
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| 01:18.41 | impulze_ | you seem to have a fast keyboard aswell :P |
| 01:19.17 | lilltiger | impulze_: yes it's quite fast and wireless so sometimes it acts on it's own |
| 01:19.26 | impulze_ | hihi |
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| 01:19.56 | lilltiger | and i have like 0.3ms delay on it only :) |
| 01:19.57 | shree1 | lilltiger: what about just moving the .so files to the directory that contains the exec |
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| 01:20.07 | pgib | shree1, I remember something about --library-path I think? |
| 01:20.12 | pgib | I can't remember exactly |
| 01:20.28 | lilltiger | shree1: yes but you also have to tell the linker to choose thoes alse it might try to look for the system ones |
| 01:21.05 | lilltiger | pgib: depends on compiler and linker and make type :) |
| 01:21.12 | lilltiger | but google knows all about this |
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| 01:21.33 | pgib | yeah, but look for something along these paths.. this is the gcc / gnu ld command |
| 01:22.06 | shree1 | lilltiger: pgib: brb |
| 01:22.28 | pgib | brb: pgib : lilltiger |
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| 01:24.00 | shree1 | pgib: lilltiger: i am back :) |
| 01:24.13 | dansushi | Does anyone here know of some sorta of applet/application that records how much data is coming in and going out of the network, and can tell you, for example, that you've transfered 200MB up in the past 3 days? |
| 01:24.19 | pgib | why did you even bother saying brb |
| 01:24.22 | pgib | that was fast.. |
| 01:24.37 | shree1 | pgib: i didnt expect that i will be back so soon |
| 01:25.02 | shree1 | pgib: i was in a conversation which ended rather quickly |
| 01:25.57 | shree1 | pgib: lilltiger: i am now going to try this option and get it working |
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| 01:27.41 | lilltiger | I was gone longer then him :) |
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| 01:28.34 | lilltiger | dansushi: I think have seen an applet like that at kde-look or kde-apps althought I dont think they work very well |
| 01:29.00 | shree1 | lilltiger: lol |
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| 01:29.52 | pgib | maybe netstat has something?? I usually just use it for locating servers that are hanging |
| 01:30.02 | pgib | but It might keep stats over time -- not sure |
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| 01:30.38 | pgib | yeah: netstat -s |
| 01:31.20 | pgib | it's not a KDE plasmoid, but at least it exists |
| 01:35.13 | driva2009 | lilltiger: it appears all of my keys are already bound to x commands. All i have to do is allocate them. |
| 01:35.15 | driva2009 | :) |
| 01:37.16 | lilltiger | :D |
| 01:38.20 | driva2009 | so i do this under keyboard shortcuts in systemsettings / keyboard and mouse? |
| 01:39.43 | lilltiger | how about try doing that? :p |
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| 02:33.46 | Trapecista | KDE 3.5 |
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| 02:37.31 | pgib | probably ark |
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| 02:57.01 | rohanpm | xenoterracide: with a queue the notifications keep popping up when new messages come in, with a stack the first popup will not be overwritten until you dismiss it |
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| 03:01.06 | xenoterracide | rohanpm: thanks |
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| 03:13.08 | kokozedman | hello people, i need a little help with KDevelop's text editor and other KDE-based text editor |
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| 03:13.30 | kokozedman | i have it enabled, but it doesn't have any effect |
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| 04:10.34 | xenoterracide | test |
| 04:10.35 | Sertse | hello? |
| 04:10.37 | xenoterracide | yay |
| 04:10.57 | pgib | ping |
| 04:11.08 | Sertse | the kde control sound doesn't register my sound =/ |
| 04:11.13 | Sertse | How do I get it to work. |
| 04:11.27 | xenoterracide | error message version |
| 04:11.28 | Sertse | I'm currently alsaconf it on every start up, but yea, not a solution |
| 04:11.43 | xenoterracide | and perhaps distro |
| 04:13.11 | xenoterracide | Sertse: wanna give some more info? |
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| 04:14.07 | Andrew`` | hey all... just wondering where I can get KaudioCReator from for KDE 4? |
| 04:18.37 | xenoterracide | well if gentoo is any indication you can't |
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| 04:53.33 | epoch | KDE is like sex. |
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| 09:30.28 | tuxick | kdpf throwing "Could not open file://foo/bar.pdf" without any explanation |
| 09:30.33 | tuxick | new policy? |
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| 09:31.27 | gkiagia | no, lazy coders :) |
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| 09:39.57 | gal_bolle | do the kde ui guideline have something to say about modal windows? |
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| 09:40.52 | gal_bolle | i hate modal windows, it's like having your arms chained apart, and having the key to the chain on your left hand in the right hand and vice-versa |
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| 09:58.07 | thpar | Hi! Does anyone recognises this KDE4.1 problem: on my laptop, when I attach an extra monitor, dual screening works rather well. Without the monitor however (just the laptop screen) fonts are out of proportion: the fonts used bu programs are much larger than those of the menus, title bars, etc... |
| 09:59.12 | thpar | I can set the fonts smaller to solve this, but then of course the fonts of the panel, start menu, ... get unreadable tiny... |
| 09:59.42 | thpar | as soon as I go to dual screen again, like now, it all looks great |
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| 10:24.50 | oldvlad | ÐÑо нибÑÐ´Ñ ÑеалÑно запÑÑкал LineAge2 под ÐинÑкÑом? |
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| 10:25.21 | irina_r | oldvlad: in English, please? |
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| 10:25.53 | tapas | hi |
| 10:26.06 | oldvlad | hi |
| 10:26.07 | tapas | i'm looking for a small calender gadget that can interoperate with korganizer |
| 10:26.46 | aseigo | tapas: "gadget" as in something for plasma? |
| 10:26.49 | tapas | nah |
| 10:26.55 | tapas | as in something to take with me in my pocket |
| 10:27.25 | aseigo | ah .. hardware gadget =) |
| 10:27.29 | tapas | yep :) |
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| 10:29.05 | aseigo | use a calendar server/online system (kolab, whatever) and the most portables can sync with those easily... otherwise, palm things sync nicely with kpilot, barry can do blackberries (mostly; calendaring is there), everything else is either covered by opensync or not covered |
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| 10:45.23 | freeedrich| | Is there any way I can disable nspluginviewer stuff of konqueror? |
| 10:45.29 | freeedrich| | And only enable it on demand? |
| 10:45.31 | freeedrich| | Because.. |
| 10:45.35 | freeedrich| | It is fucking with my CPU |
| 10:45.51 | tapas | you mean it keeps it busy? |
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| 10:46.29 | freeedrich| | Is there any way I can disable nspluginviewer stuff of konqueror? |
| 10:46.31 | freeedrich| | And only enable it on demand? |
| 10:46.33 | freeedrich| | Because.. |
| 10:46.35 | freeedrich| | It is fucking with my CPU |
| 10:46.37 | freeedrich| | ARGH |
| 10:46.41 | freeedrich| | Sorry. |
| 10:46.43 | freeedrich| | :( |
| 10:46.47 | tapas | wtf are you doing ;) |
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| 10:47.12 | freeedrich| | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:47.19 | freeedrich| | that was the line I wanted to paste |
| 10:47.25 | soa2ii | freeedrich|: Under Plugins. |
| 10:47.28 | soa2ii | NSPlugins- |
| 10:48.27 | freeedrich| | well.. there is some setting for "Enable plugins globally" |
| 10:48.31 | freeedrich| | Which I switched off |
| 10:48.43 | freeedrich| | And.. I just noticed another "Only load plugins on demand" thing |
| 10:48.47 | freeedrich| | Which I switched on now. |
| 10:48.49 | freeedrich| | Let's see |
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| 10:53.02 | freeedrich| | It doesn't seem to help :( |
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| 10:54.16 | tapas | one of the reasons i mostly use firefox these days |
| 10:54.19 | tapas | install noscript |
| 10:54.29 | tapas | and all these cpu-users only get run when i want it |
| 10:54.55 | tapas | i still like konqueror's better rendering and GUI speed though |
| 10:55.12 | freeedrich| | Well.. but if there IS an option for plugins.. |
| 10:55.19 | tapas | but the lack of control over what gets executed on a web page is kinda lame |
| 10:55.20 | freeedrich| | It sucks if it doesn't work :) |
| 10:55.22 | tapas | ;) |
| 10:55.30 | freeedrich| | Well.. I managed to get it right now.. |
| 10:55.44 | freeedrich| | Adding *.swf to adblock filtering did the trick ;) |
| 10:57.09 | tapas | i wonder what the advertisment industry is thinking |
| 10:57.27 | tapas | everyone just turns them off.. they could just as well simply give up... |
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| 10:59.46 | emilsedgh | is Kompare capable of merging diffs or its just a diff viewer? |
| 11:01.01 | rdale | yes |
| 11:01.24 | rdale | yes it merges |
| 11:02.26 | emilsedgh | rdale: and...do you know how can i add it to the git's mergetools? |
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| 11:02.46 | rdale | no i'm afraid not |
| 11:02.58 | emilsedgh | thanks rdale |
| 11:03.12 | emilsedgh | i used to use kdiff3 but i have no kde3 anymore and i hate vimdiff :P |
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| 11:05.17 | rdale | oh sorry, looking the kde4 kompare i'm not sure that it does merges |
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| 11:06.42 | emilsedgh | ah, thanks rdale. |
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| 11:06.55 | emilsedgh | rdale: you know any kde4 based tool? |
| 11:08.08 | emilsedgh | oh, rdale, there are buttons called 'apply diff' and 'unapply diff' |
| 11:08.42 | rdale | yes, you're right i've just tried it - it looks pretty good |
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| 11:09.09 | rdale | i was forgetting i've only use the kde3 one before |
| 11:09.26 | _RedGhost_ | it can generate patches too |
| 11:12.06 | Taldor | i've composite and aiglx enabled, but according to konsole "transparency doesn't appear to be supported" and the desktop effects don't work either. (I'm using gentoo and a nvidia 6600 gt card.) Any idea what could be the cause? |
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| 11:16.31 | lbt | Hi - is this the place to discuss korganiser? |
| 11:18.00 | lbt | it imports a calendar file (ics) that shows a recurring event - how should this work at daylight saving transition? |
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| 11:19.20 | irina_r | lbt: should work seamlessly because your whole system adjusts |
| 11:20.14 | lbt | it doesn't - which is why I'm here <grin> |
| 11:20.20 | lbt | I have egroupware |
| 11:20.26 | lbt | and it exports an ics |
| 11:20.35 | lbt | are you interested in details? |
| 11:20.59 | irina_r | don't think it would help as I have no experience with groupware |
| 11:21.10 | lbt | not needed : I have the ics file : http://pastebin.com/m7b7de524 |
| 11:21.22 | lbt | it's a korganiser issue (I think) |
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| 11:21.28 | lbt | (I could easily be wrong :) |
| 11:21.36 | irina_r | my current korganiser is inoperable |
| 11:21.44 | irina_r | (intrepid beta issue, I think) |
| 11:21.55 | lbt | OK - I guess I'm looking for the kde-pim guys |
| 11:22.00 | irina_r | just about anything makes it crash |
| 11:22.15 | irina_r | so am I but that channel is very quiet |
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| 11:22.40 | lbt | where is it? not freenode? |
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| 11:23.51 | icwiener | lbt: Maybe #kontact |
| 11:24.08 | lbt | I'll see - thanks :) |
| 11:24.10 | irina_r | ah right, thanks |
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| 12:01.46 | cumulus007 | hello, how do I change the window order in my panel? |
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| 12:14.42 | gkiagia | lol. trying to connect to an inexistent host with sftp in dolphin pops up an empty information dialog :P |
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| 12:18.55 | irina_r | gkiagia: figures, you didn't actually coNnect to anything! :-) |
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| 12:24.05 | thpar | KDE4.1: is there already a way to make the panel remember the order of the icons, plasmoids, .... ? On every restart I now have to rearrange evertything (yes, I want the clock to be on the right, my apps on the left, the task manager in the middle, ...) |
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| 12:24.31 | gkiagia | thpar: it remembers them if you log out correctly :) |
| 12:25.16 | thpar | gkiagia: I not totally sure, but you could be right. Logging out didn't happen to often without crashing for now... |
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| 12:25.54 | gkiagia | to force saving you can execute "kquitapp plasma && plasma" |
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| 12:26.20 | bmzh | hello |
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| 12:27.44 | bmzh | is it possible to get internet (packages) through a tunnel from kde remote server to a windows vista PC? |
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| 12:29.27 | Half-Left | pinotree: Does -jx option have any effect on debug, i.e more useful or less? |
| 12:30.04 | thpar | gkiagia: thanks, but executing that just rearranged all my icons :-p |
| 12:30.40 | pinotree | Half-Left: ? |
| 12:30.49 | fschmitt | How do I manually write a path in dolphin? |
| 12:31.07 | fschmitt | I have a path in clipboard and go there without clicking. |
| 12:31.12 | gkiagia | thpar: that is strange... that means that plasma crashes on exit |
| 12:31.16 | Half-Left | pinotree: make -j3 or make have any effect on using debug build? |
| 12:31.25 | thpar | fschmitt: CTRL-L |
| 12:32.00 | fschmitt | Ah, just like in Gnome. |
| 12:32.03 | thpar | gkiagia: I'm afraid so: plasma(15154): ""geometry" - conversion of "0,-513,0,507" to QRectF failed" |
| 12:32.20 | thpar | gkiagia: X Error: BadWindow (invalid Window parameter) 3 |
| 12:32.22 | thpar | etc |
| 12:32.26 | fschmitt | Never found this all to intuitive there but, well. |
| 12:32.46 | gkiagia | thpar: that's unrelated |
| 12:32.47 | thpar | fschmitt: just in the 'View' menu, you can enable location bar |
| 12:33.21 | thpar | gkiagia: that was part of the error I got when trying to quit/save plasma |
| 12:33.36 | thpar | gkiagia: QLayout: Attempting to add QLayout "" to Plasma::Dialog "", which already has a layout |
| 12:33.49 | fschmitt | Ah, found it. That's good. |
| 12:34.02 | gkiagia | thpar: pastebin |
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| 12:34.15 | thpar | gkiagia: maybe I should start filing bug reports? I have quite some unexplaind or strange behaviuour since the KDE4.1 install... |
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| 12:34.38 | gkiagia | is that 4.1.0 or 4.1.2? and what distro? |
| 12:34.48 | gkiagia | (or 4.1.1...) |
| 12:35.51 | thpar | gkiagia: respin of Fedora9, KDE 4.1.2 |
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| 12:37.31 | emilsedgh | i just installed a new debian...but the pborlem is that compositing is really slow on it.it was ok on my ubuntu box.i remember there were some options that i had to play with, to make kwin smooth.is there any resource about them? |
| 12:37.33 | gkiagia | hmm, probably fedora patches their plasma... it works for me |
| 12:38.09 | gkiagia | emilsedgh: what graphics card? |
| 12:38.24 | Jucato | emilsedgh: http://userbase.kde.org/GPU_Performance |
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| 12:39.28 | Jucato | emilsedgh: if that link is wrong, just search for it.. I was typing from memory :) |
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| 12:39.45 | emilsedgh | hey Jucato! |
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| 12:39.53 | emilsedgh | gkiagia: intel |
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| 12:40.07 | gkiagia | that is the correct link: http://userbase.kde.org/GPU-Performance |
| 12:40.09 | Bulwinkle | I'm having some really sluggish performance in KDE4... When I click to change between apps it is taking like 2-3 secs before it does anything. When my windows close sometimes it takes 10 secs for the system to do anything. |
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| 12:40.42 | uracyl | hmm does anyone know how to enable autocomplete code in Kdevelop ? I checked the autocomplete and still nothing |
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| 12:41.39 | thpar | Bulwinkle: I experience quite some performance loss as well in comparison with KDE3.5... even on a rather decent pc |
| 12:41.55 | gkiagia | Bulwinkle: see that link I posted... (gpu issues) |
| 12:41.59 | emilsedgh | already seen that page gkiagia, but it has nothing about intel.i remember there were some X options people were talking about |
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| 12:42.26 | Jucato | gkiagia: thanks.. I'll keep it in mind |
| 12:42.31 | Jucato | s/_/-/ :) |
| 12:42.47 | thpar | gkiagia: thanks... I'll check that link as well |
| 12:42.53 | Bulwinkle | gkiagia: been there, done that :) |
| 12:43.40 | gkiagia | emilsedgh: yes I know... |
| 12:43.48 | emilsedgh | ah, have to go, thanks Jucato, gkiagia |
| 12:44.00 | emilsedgh | appreciates gkiagia's help |
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| 12:44.15 | gkiagia | but I didn't help :P |
| 12:44.39 | emilsedgh | gkiagia: but you wanted and tried, thats the important thing i think |
| 12:45.04 | Bulwinkle | I've got a: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation Quadro NVS 320M (rev a1) |
| 12:45.29 | Bulwinkle | Been running KDE4 since official release of KDE4.1 |
| 12:45.42 | gkiagia | Bulwinkle: are you using the latest nvidia drivers? |
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| 12:46.00 | gkiagia | and the nvidia-settings command line trick? |
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| 12:49.29 | Bulwinkle | gkiagia: 177.80 |
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| 12:52.43 | pinotree | Half-Left: no |
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| 12:55.12 | Half-Left | ahhh ok |
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| 13:55.20 | tuxick | using kmail to access an imap account that's also used by colleague |
| 13:55.39 | tuxick | when he deletes a mail my kmail doesn't seem to notice unless i restart it, what am i missing? |
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| 13:57.43 | gkiagia | tuxick: nothing, known bug :( |
| 13:57.43 | gkiagia | tested that during a recent kmail triage |
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| 13:58.02 | gkiagia | hmm, wait, I tested folder deletion, not mail deletion |
| 13:58.39 | gkiagia | but it's probably related... |
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| 14:10.00 | tuxick | no doubt |
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| 14:12.12 | luuciano | the 3.5.x how log will be supported? |
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| 14:14.29 | luuciano | *how long |
| 14:15.14 | gkiagia | I don't think it is supported... |
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| 14:15.29 | aseigo | gkiagia: several distributors continue to support it |
| 14:15.42 | aseigo | luuciano: we don't have any plans currently for new 3.5 based releases, however |
| 14:15.54 | Jucato | aseigo: including maintenance releases? |
| 14:16.41 | aseigo | Jucato: no, we have no plans for new 3.5 based releases |
| 14:16.50 | Jucato | okie dokie |
| 14:16.59 | aseigo | if the question is "are we still actively developing 3.5" the ansewr is "no" |
| 14:17.19 | aseigo | but there is still work on kontact in the enterprise branch and people shipping kde 3.5 packages |
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| 14:17.27 | gkiagia | aseigo: that's what I meant by not supported, we are not going to have 3.5.11. plus, many distros already switch to 4.1 |
| 14:17.30 | aseigo | finds people's definition of "supported" to be a bit skewed at times |
| 14:17.52 | Jucato | gkiagia: as aseigo mentioned, "supported" has become a very ambiguous word these days :) |
| 14:17.53 | aseigo | gkiagia: no, that would be "developed" .. "supported" is something rather different |
| 14:18.05 | Jucato | like "not supported" can also mean "no longer available" |
| 14:18.08 | luuciano | aseigo, thanks... I will be instaling a kde system, so I will install 4.1... thanks for the information |
| 14:18.11 | aseigo | you can still get your questions answered, still find packages, etc, etc |
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| 14:21.06 | tuxick | oh nice, reported a bug in kpdf, but that mail to the maintainer bounced |
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| 14:21.19 | gkiagia | ah well, "supported" in my mind means that bugs get fixed |
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| 14:21.38 | gkiagia | tuxick: reasonable, kpdf is not maintained anymore |
| 14:21.43 | tuxick | what?? |
| 14:21.47 | tuxick | sighs |
| 14:21.50 | gkiagia | we have okular now |
| 14:21.50 | Jucato | tuxick: mail? |
| 14:22.01 | tuxick | <toscano.pino@tiscali.it> |
| 14:22.07 | tuxick | but maybe i'm misreading the message |
| 14:22.08 | Jucato | there's a bug tracker :) |
| 14:22.17 | tuxick | yes, i used the bug tracker |
| 14:22.26 | tuxick | so i got 1 confirmation and 1 bounce |
| 14:22.50 | Jucato | well if it's reported in b.k.o., then it's ok |
| 14:23.00 | tuxick | okular is kde4 |
| 14:23.17 | tuxick | i hope this stuff will all be over soon |
| 14:23.25 | tuxick | since it's causing me headaches |
| 14:23.26 | pinotree | tuxick: "bounced"!? |
| 14:23.47 | gkiagia | tuxick: see the dialog above with aseigo. kde3 is not developed anymore |
| 14:23.49 | pinotree | tuxick: this is my email, and working -- what is the problem with it? |
| 14:24.00 | Jucato | pinotree: yep.. like this *bounces a ball* |
| 14:24.02 | Jucato | runs |
| 14:24.25 | Jucato | gkiagia: "not developed" doesn't necessarily mean "won't get fixed". it may or may not. depends on the app |
| 14:24.33 | Jucato | can't recall pinotree's policy on kpdf |
| 14:24.48 | tuxick | <toscano.pino@tiscali.it>: |
| 14:24.49 | tuxick | Connected to 213.205.33.248 but sender was rejected. |
| 14:25.05 | gkiagia | hmm, that thing becomes complicated... |
| 14:25.09 | pinotree | that's a temporary error on ktown (not depending on me) |
| 14:25.13 | tuxick | ah ok |
| 14:25.18 | tuxick | just thought i'd mention |
| 14:25.21 | pinotree | anyway, what is the problem? |
| 14:25.55 | tuxick | a useless error message, "could no open file:///foo/bar.pdf" |
| 14:26.05 | tuxick | which i find extremely annoying |
| 14:26.21 | tuxick | demands at least some explanation |
| 14:26.43 | pinotree | like i find extremely annoying this kind of generic error messages |
| 14:26.53 | pinotree | (the one you reported, i mean) |
| 14:27.07 | tuxick | The generator used was reported as "FPDF 1.5.2", PDF version 1.3(Acrobar 4.x). |
| 14:27.07 | pinotree | what are you doing for real? which steps? |
| 14:27.09 | tuxick | that's all i know |
| 14:27.12 | Jucato | "demands".. or get your money back? :) |
| 14:27.27 | tuxick | i get a pdf, i try to open it with kpdf and all it tells me is "could not open" |
| 14:27.47 | pinotree | open it on command like, and see what you get there |
| 14:28.05 | tuxick | i did, and nothing there |
| 14:28.13 | tuxick | otherwise i would have mentioned |
| 14:28.34 | pinotree | can you open it with eg xpdf or evince? |
| 14:28.37 | tuxick | yes |
| 14:28.44 | tuxick | acroread was happy |
| 14:28.51 | tuxick | oww i did forget to mention that :) |
| 14:29.06 | tuxick | implied it only by saying it was reported as fpdf |
| 14:29.33 | tuxick | anyway, "could not open" could mean 100 things |
| 14:29.34 | pinotree | acroread is basically a bitch, it groks everything it can, also non-standard documents |
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| 14:30.11 | pinotree | do you have a link to the document? |
| 14:30.22 | pinotree | also, did you try okular with it? |
| 14:30.41 | tuxick | that's kde4 |
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| 14:30.52 | tuxick | not using that until gentoo declares it stable |
| 14:31.08 | pinotree | you can use kde4 applications within kde3, you know? |
| 14:31.21 | tuxick | oh, that sounded like asking for trouble |
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| 14:38.03 | pinotree | tuxick: a link to the document? |
| 14:39.16 | tuxick | sorry, it's internal/s3cr3t stuff |
| 14:39.40 | pinotree | then no help, sorry |
| 14:39.47 | tuxick | but my complaint wasn't about failing to handle a bad/unknown pdf, it's about the error message itself |
| 14:39.59 | tuxick | "could not render" "no read access" "solar flares" |
| 14:40.36 | pinotree | "there was an error interpreting your document" |
| 14:40.53 | tuxick | at least that implies it wasn't a filesystem/acl issue |
| 14:40.53 | pinotree | "but no document was provided, so no further information can be provided" |
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| 14:41.20 | tuxick | "could not open" is the kind of report i get from windows users |
| 14:41.59 | pinotree | you can complain about the errors as much as you want, but without document and whatever, we cannot know |
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| 14:49.51 | tuxick | pinotree: so you think it's normal to just say "could not open" no matter what goes wrong? |
| 14:49.54 | tuxick | gives up |
| 14:50.17 | pinotree | tuxick: no, i think that i cannot have an idea when an user cannot give me the ways to find that out |
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| 14:51.03 | tuxick | acro handled it so that narrowed it down |
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| 14:51.27 | tuxick | but you seem to be missing my point |
| 14:51.44 | pinotree | and you seem to miss mine, so it's drawn |
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| 14:52.14 | tuxick | yeah, i'll file it under 'bad software' |
| 14:53.40 | lilltiger | file it as error 21, that should cover it |
| 14:53.51 | pinotree | "kpdf does not open my s3cr3t pdf" "the document is s3cr3t, kpdf is dicreet so it does not open it" sounds right, yes |
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| 14:54.45 | tuxick | "error: some error" |
| 14:54.58 | tuxick | lilltiger: at least that's a clue yes |
| 14:55.37 | lilltiger | tuxick: indeed it is, and the solution for error 21 could probly fix it aswell |
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| 14:57.07 | tuxick | "writing solid code" suggests using values that are easier to find back |
| 14:57.13 | tuxick | 212121 would be better |
| 14:57.35 | tuxick | then you can google for that, and find "ah, that could be anything" |
| 14:57.41 | lilltiger | error 21: User error. fix: replace the error |
| 14:57.49 | lilltiger | err replace the user |
| 14:58.27 | lilltiger | error 21: User error. fix: replace the user |
| 14:58.57 | tuxick | user did nothing wrong |
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| 14:59.36 | freeedrich| | keeps wasting devs time, isn't willing to provide further information |
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| 14:59.55 | tuxick | i could post an strace |
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| 15:00.06 | tuxick | but that still won't fix the poor error handling |
| 15:00.30 | tuxick | but now i'm getting pissed off so i'll leave it at this |
| 15:00.35 | tuxick | seen too much of this |
| 15:00.42 | vivia | OT: the other day i saw a "Well-formed error", and when I hovered it it said "Document is not well-formed" |
| 15:00.48 | vivia | the error message isn't either |
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| 15:01.40 | lilltiger | As far as we know you could be doing something wrong and the fault could be yours, impossible to know without an test-case.. |
| 15:01.43 | Jucato | "user: error handling is poor", "developer: can you provide details to help improve it? like the file you're trying to open? like figuring out why it's generating that error?" "user: no. the error handling is poor. I'll file it as bad software" |
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| 15:02.50 | vivia | then it turns out they're trying to open an image in amarok, for example... |
| 15:02.54 | flower2 | how can i reset the settings of kpdf in kde4? |
| 15:03.03 | tuxick | try opening a .txt in acroread |
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| 15:03.31 | cb400f | flower2: you mean okular? |
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| 15:04.20 | flower2 | cb400f: no kile opens kpdf and I got not tools to change setting in kpdf, just a window.... |
| 15:04.57 | vivia | flower2: which setting do you want to change? |
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| 15:05.34 | flower2 | vivia: to default... I can't do anything with it now, I consider it as a bug |
| 15:05.39 | cb400f | same as other kde-stuff.. (re)move $KDEHOME/share/config/kpdf* |
| 15:05.55 | vivia | cb400f: i just looked in there, no kpdf config file |
| 15:06.17 | vivia | flower2: what is wrong when kpdf opens your file? |
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| 15:06.31 | vivia | flower2: do you want to edit the pdf? |
| 15:06.40 | flower2 | vivia: i've just a window |
| 15:06.46 | flower2 | vivia: no kpdf |
| 15:07.06 | gkiagia | an empty window? |
| 15:07.15 | flower2 | no with an pdf file in it |
| 15:07.28 | flower2 | but no bars |
| 15:07.39 | flower2 | with file/ view/ options etc |
| 15:07.42 | vivia | flower2: so you want kpdf to launch as a separate window instead? |
| 15:07.44 | gkiagia | ah, so you are missing the toolbar and the menubar |
| 15:07.56 | flower2 | gkiagia: yah |
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| 15:08.10 | gkiagia | maybe you opened it from an application that embeds the kpdf part? |
| 15:08.18 | gkiagia | that is how ark behaves for example |
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| 15:08.46 | flower2 | it could have a relation with kate and lilypond yes |
| 15:09.06 | vivia | flower2: try pressing ctrl+m from inside kpdf |
| 15:09.40 | flower2 | vivia: thanks |
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| 15:10.04 | flower2 | but that is a design fault IMHO... (?) |
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| 15:10.51 | flower2 | you're lost when you don't know the shortcuts... |
| 15:11.14 | vivia | ormaybe kile thought it would be better to open kpdf without the menubar |
| 15:11.27 | Jucato | (presuming that's the default behavior in the first place, which it isn't) |
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| 15:43.23 | dustdevil | does anyone know of a user guide for kde 4 or 4.1? |
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| 15:44.47 | rdieter | dustdevil: a good resource: http://userbase.kde.org/ |
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| 16:24.50 | Blues-Man | hi |
| 16:25.03 | White_Pelican | hi |
| 16:25.06 | sabayonuser | hi |
| 16:25.25 | Blues-Man | which debian/ubuntu package I have to download in order to write kde4 plasma widget? |
| 16:25.38 | Blues-Man | i m not able to cmake the example in the tutorial on kde website |
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| 16:27.35 | sabayonuser | dpkg -i kdeurl |
| 16:29.09 | Blues-Man | is it a package?i cannot find it |
| 16:29.18 | pinotree | Blues-Man: #debian-kde for debian, #kubuntu-kde4 for ubuntu |
| 16:29.30 | Blues-Man | ok |
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| 16:33.21 | supert0nes | pinotree: Blues-Man #kubuntu-kde4 no longer exists it is now #kubuntu |
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| 16:34.04 | Blues-Man | yes i was redirected thanks :) |
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| 16:49.29 | White_Pelican | when is kde 4.2 going to be released? |
| 16:51.11 | rdieter | White_Pelican: http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules |
| 16:52.05 | White_Pelican | ty |
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| 17:14.48 | neumaennl | hi guys |
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| 18:09.56 | sba61 | hi, how do I disable taskmanager tooltips? |
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| 18:13.01 | jacekowski | hi |
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| 18:13.40 | brain0 | is it normal that plasma can't handle multiple displays? |
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| 18:13.47 | brain0 | it does all sorts of weird stuff |
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| 18:15.51 | brain0 | for example, when I use xrandr to put another display (1280x1024) below my laptop display (1280x800), the task bar is on the lower display and windows on it are not properly painted |
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| 18:16.22 | brain0 | if I put it above, the taskbar is in the middle of the big display. part of the desktop either has a different background or none at all |
| 18:16.27 | brain0 | as I said, all very weird |
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| 18:19.07 | NauarchLysander | REGISTER kfapgfqzfpks lysander.nauarch@web.de |
| 18:19.31 | thiago | gives NauarchLysander a "/msg nickserv" prefix |
| 18:19.37 | qju | hehehe |
| 18:19.39 | NauarchLysander | sorry, had to swich to konversation after the update and here my nick is not registered |
| 18:21.24 | NauarchLysander | Sorry guys. Has anyone an idea how I can get to my nick? I just said what thiago said, NickServ says it's already registered (of course it is, by me). |
| 18:21.42 | brain0 | NauarchLysander: identify |
| 18:21.53 | NauarchLysander | brain0: How? |
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| 18:22.11 | qju | . /nickserv identify pass_wd |
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| 18:23.36 | NauarchLysander | Ah, thanks god, it works. |
| 18:24.09 | NauarchLysander | Why doesn't Kopete support the IRC protocol anymore? |
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| 18:26.37 | qju | hmm its support irc allready here (ver. 0.12.6) |
| 18:28.44 | NauarchLysander | qju: What do you mean? Since I updated to 8.10 I can no longer use Kopete as an IRC client. It does not appear in the list of supported protocols (in the program itself and in the handbook). |
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| 18:31.04 | qju | i run a "older" version 0.12.6 disturbed with suse 10.3 dont know whats changed since. i prefer with kvirc and pidgin |
| 18:31.20 | lilltiger | NauarchLysander: kopete in kde4 dosent upport irc yet, I dont know if it's planed either |
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| 18:34.06 | wstephenson | NauarchLysander: the irc plugin still hasn't been ported to kde 4 |
| 18:34.39 | wstephenson | lilltiger: it's being worked on again, but slowly |
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| 18:47.22 | cumulus007 | hello, how do I get flash 10 working in Konqueror in KDE 4.1 x86 on Uubntu Intrepid? |
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| 18:50.03 | lilltiger | cumulus007: ask in #unbuntu |
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| 18:59.01 | Half-Left | cumulus007: Just point it to where your flash plugin is, usually where firefox has it |
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| 18:59.38 | cumulus007 | Half-Left: where does FF store the plugin? |
| 19:00.14 | Half-Left | usually .mozilla/plugins |
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| 19:14.49 | gsteinert | hey there, is there a network manager for kde4 yet? |
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| 19:20.30 | ambro951 | gsteinert: no, you should use the 3.5 version of knetworkmanager; though it should be ready for kde 4.2 |
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| 19:20.55 | gsteinert | ambro951: thanks |
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| 19:27.44 | kim0 | Hi, I'm on kde 4.1.2 Fedora10. There seems to be a bug in "KMix", where one click on the tray icon, does not show "master volume" .. rather shows some on/off hook check box ?! |
| 19:27.50 | kim0 | Is this known ? |
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| 19:29.27 | Lucas_Smithen | hey folks. I was wondering if there was a way to get konsole to start with multiple tabs open |
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| 19:35.22 | rdieter | kim0: is audio otherwise working (driver-wise, etc)? |
| 19:35.28 | kim0 | Yes |
| 19:35.31 | kim0 | working fine |
| 19:35.46 | kim0 | even the mixer is controlling it fine |
| 19:35.54 | Half-Left | kim0: It shows PCM here |
| 19:36.06 | rdieter | kim0: kmix sometime picks the wrong (master) channel, can try right-click -> select master channel |
| 19:36.38 | rdieter | for me, PCM was initially selected, but didn't work, I had to select channel labeled "Front" (on my laptop) |
| 19:36.39 | kim0 | rdieter: ah ... that helped :D |
| 19:36.51 | kim0 | rdieter: I have 2 channels named Front |
| 19:36.55 | rdieter | fun |
| 19:36.57 | kim0 | not sure if they're really difference |
| 19:36.59 | kim0 | t* |
| 19:37.31 | rdieter | kim0: keep trying different ones until it works. :) |
| 19:37.45 | kim0 | hehe .. ok |
| 19:37.56 | kim0 | rdieter: You're a Fedora dev right ? |
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| 19:38.06 | rdieter | kim0: yes |
| 19:38.06 | kim0 | Thanks for the excellent work on KDE |
| 19:38.28 | kim0 | The new kdm got a "wow" from me with the new solar graphics ;) |
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| 19:38.58 | rdieter | aw shucks. thanks. (totally agree, the artwork folks nailed it) |
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| 19:42.47 | Lucas_Smithen | can anyone tell me how to save a konsole session in konsole 4.1.2? |
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| 19:44.51 | ambro951 | kim0: you see two "Front" channels because KMix renamed "Master" to "Front", and your card already has a real "Front". That renaming was removed and it should properly show "Master" and "Front" with KDE 4.1.3 |
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| 19:45.36 | kim0 | ambro951: so it was a bug ... cool ... waiting for Fedora to package 4.1.3 :D |
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| 19:45.50 | kim0 | Thanks everyone for the wonderful KDE |
| 19:45.53 | ambro951 | kim0: well it has to be released first :) |
| 19:46.34 | kim0 | oh hehe .. |
| 19:46.37 | kim0 | not a biggie |
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| 19:48.16 | BleSS | my mic. is not working on linux/kde |
| 19:48.36 | BleSS | it works on windows so it's ok |
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| 19:50.21 | NauarchLysander | I upgraded to Kubuntu 8.10 this afternoon, but now the new KDE 4.1 is VERY slow. Especially the Desktop plasmoid. When I move my mouse over it, the desktop freezes for about five seconds. I can't work like that. Is there a way out of that? |
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| 19:50.43 | ambro951 | BleSS: what sort of mic? is it plugged in or built in (laptop) ? |
| 19:50.45 | jescutie | Hey! My friend's band, Circumstance, just released a free album called Breakfast Champion. You can download it here: http://dudesweat.sweatparty.com/?p=737 If you listen to it and like it, tell me what you think? Please? |
| 19:51.20 | DrSlony | Help, I installed KDE4 but some programs still call my KDE3 applications menu (e.g. click on a link in Konqueror, a window pops up asking me what to open the link in). While installing kde4 my kde3 kmenu got wiped clean. What should i re-emerge to repopulate that menu and rebuild mime-type actions? |
| 19:51.28 | BleSS | ambro951: plugged in |
| 19:51.51 | ambro951 | BleSS: first try to get it echo into your sound output |
| 19:52.25 | ambro951 | BleSS: open kmix, go to Playback tab (if it exists), Configure Channels, check Mic |
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| 19:53.38 | ambro951 | BleSS: now on the playback tab, lower Mic, unmute it, and then raise it; the sound from your mic should now be echoed back to the speakers |
| 19:54.55 | BleSS | ambro951: I haven't Playback tab --I'm using kmix 2.6.1 on kde 3.5.10-- |
| 19:55.17 | BleSS | my tabs are: input, output and parameters (settings) |
| 19:55.37 | ambro951 | BleSS: "Input" tab ... |
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| 19:56.03 | ambro951 | BleSS: no I mean Output |
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| 20:02.17 | BleSS | any mixer for kde? not kmix |
| 20:03.09 | ambro951 | BleSS: what is the problem? can you see the Mic channel? |
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| 20:04.05 | rgreening | Is there a way to make Konqueror properly view svg files? Like in the adobe svg viewer plugin? |
| 20:04.12 | anoneemouse | can someone help me with dual monitors on kde 4 |
| 20:04.24 | anoneemouse | when i maximise windows they go across both screens |
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| 20:04.56 | ambro951 | rgreening: I think there is some support with ksvg, which I think is in kdegraphics |
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| 20:05.26 | rgreening | I think I had tried it before, but will try it again. ty ambro951 |
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| 20:05.56 | anoneemouse | any takers? |
| 20:05.58 | anoneemouse | please |
| 20:06.01 | rgreening | ksvg |
| 20:06.05 | rgreening | oops.. |
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| 20:11.03 | rgreening | ambro951: ksvg seems obsoleted in kde4. So, still stuck wondering what Konqueror 4 needs to do for svg viewing? |
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| 20:13.23 | pinotree | rgreening: there's a small kpart in kdegraphics for simple svg viewing |
| 20:13.34 | pinotree | in kde 4.2, khtml provides native svg support |
| 20:14.29 | rgreening | yay for 4.2... booo Im in 4.1 :) so, for the kpart... should that work by default or do I need to change something? |
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| 20:16.16 | DaskreecH | kim0: :-) |
| 20:16.42 | DaskreecH | NauarchLysander: What video card? |
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| 20:19.21 | NauarchLysander | DaskreecH: Nvidia GeForce 8600M. I've already fixed the problem. Just set the InitialPixmapPlacement to 2. |
| 20:19.36 | kim0 | DaskreecH: ? |
| 20:20.11 | kim0 | NauarchLysander: how did u set that ? I think I have the same issue |
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| 20:21.49 | gkiagia | kim0: http://userbase.kde.org/GPU-Performance |
| 20:21.55 | kim0 | thanks |
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| 20:22.21 | NauarchLysander | kim0: nvidia-settings -a InitialPixmapPlacement=2 |
| 20:22.34 | kim0 | thanks |
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| 20:22.47 | NauarchLysander | kim0: np |
| 20:23.00 | DaskreecH | anoneemouse: That's either #kwin or #plasma but I'd start with #kwin |
| 20:23.29 | anoneemouse | thanx DaskreecH |
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| 20:23.59 | dereine_ | where do i have to save my deco themes in kde4? |
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| 20:24.28 | DaskreecH | kim0: The thanks for KDE |
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| 20:24.37 | kim0 | one tiny issue ... whenever I login into KDE .. I get 2 Skype instances start ... why is that |
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| 20:24.45 | kim0 | DaskreecH: ah .. I really appreciate the effort |
| 20:24.45 | DaskreecH | NauarchLysander: Groovy we really should have a page on Userbase to catalogue this stuff |
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| 20:26.44 | Samuel-NotAFK | How do I revert to the kde3.5.X menu on KDE4? |
| 20:27.21 | DaskreecH | Samuel-NotAFK: Right click the K menu |
| 20:27.36 | Samuel-NotAFK | Ah yes :) |
| 20:27.51 | Samuel-NotAFK | Good old KDE3 menu :) |
| 20:27.55 | mschnee | Right click on the button and "Switch to Classic Menu Style" |
| 20:28.12 | DaskreecH | lusts for #raptor |
| 20:28.52 | Samuel-NotAFK | How do I get rid of the "favourites" bit? |
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| 20:31.46 | Samuel-NotAFK | I HATE how the panels are configured. |
| 20:31.47 | DaskreecH | Anyone knows if Quicksand is optional or if it will be shipped by default in KDE 4.x ? |
| 20:31.52 | Samuel-NotAFK | It's so difficult. |
| 20:31.54 | DaskreecH | Samuel-NotAFK: Move them |
| 20:32.03 | ambro951 | rgreening: it's not obsolete, should work if you have kdegraphics |
| 20:32.12 | Samuel-NotAFK | DaskreecH: How? |
| 20:32.32 | Samuel-NotAFK | It's evil and won't work. |
| 20:32.38 | DaskreecH | Samuel-NotAFK: There should bea little cashw you can click to move them |
| 20:32.40 | Samuel-NotAFK | I moved it to the top somehow. |
| 20:33.14 | Samuel-NotAFK | DaskreecH: What's a "little cashw"? |
| 20:33.24 | nanothief | Samuel-NotAFK, right click the pagel, click panel settings, then drag the new bar that appears |
| 20:33.32 | DaskreecH | That works :) |
| 20:33.45 | Samuel-NotAFK | I'm restarting X and hoping KDE didn't save it. |
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| 20:34.05 | Samuel-NotAFK | Nanothief: I did that but it's such a weird and confusing way of configuring it. |
| 20:34.21 | ambro951 | rgreening: well the "ksvg" program may be obsolete, the kpart ("ksvgpart") is not |
| 20:34.33 | nanothief | Samuel-NotAFK, yeah, I agree with that |
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| 20:34.51 | Samuel-NotAFK | Yay the panel settings weren't saved. :) All I wanted to do was make it slightly thinner so I have more screen space on my tiny screen.l |
| 20:35.08 | ambro951 | rgreening: svgpart comes with kdegraphics ... |
| 20:35.26 | Samuel-NotAFK | WTF Making it smaller makes it appear at the top of the screen. |
| 20:35.32 | rgreening | ambro951: and it doesn't seem to work (I have it installed)... |
| 20:35.36 | nanothief | I don't think you can make them smaller |
| 20:35.40 | DrSlony | Help, is it possible to have dolphin display image size either under each file thumbnail, or in the info panel? |
| 20:36.04 | ambro951 | rgreening: what happens of you click on a svg ? |
| 20:38.18 | ewoerner | is there a way to skip all this python "i want to install to system dir" stuff? |
| 20:38.30 | ambro951 | rgreening: actually I don't get any image as well, but the preview in dolphin works |
| 20:38.51 | rgreening | hmm... I just changed the embedding from Use settings for image group to Show file in embedded viewer and it shows the svg.. that's progress. however, the mime type vnd.adobe.svg+xml is where I am having an issue (opennms maps uses this for viewing maps) |
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| 20:41.49 | Samuel-NotAFK | I don't think I'm going to like KDE4 |
| 20:42.55 | rgreening | ambro951: I think opennms has hardcoded adobesvg plugin requirement... doh |
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| 20:44.18 | DaskreecH | Samuel-NotAFK: What's up? |
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| 20:44.55 | DaskreecH | Anyone know if you can post to Gcal from Korganizer? |
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| 20:50.31 | tuxick | DaskreecH: don't both know ical? |
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| 20:53.32 | DaskreecH | umm |
| 20:53.34 | DaskreecH | I guess |
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| 20:59.43 | cuznt | fresh install 4.1 and my resolution is still not correct |
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| 21:00.24 | DrSlony | xorg.conf? |
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| 21:01.12 | cuznt | i messed with that before and it got so screwed up |
| 21:01.20 | cuznt | it just was not happening |
| 21:01.33 | cuznt | backed everything up and did a fresh install |
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| 21:45.59 | DrSlony | Help, when I click on a link in konversation when im using kde4 then the konqueror icon appears in the toolbar but after some time it disappears and no konqueror. When I do it in kde3 konqueror loads properly. What should I fix and how? |
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| 21:46.38 | NSaibot | what's the shortcut for all running applications being presented all at once? |
| 21:46.57 | DaskreecH | Funny for me it just loads Firefox |
| 21:47.07 | lilltiger | NSaibot: ctrl+esc |
| 21:47.08 | DaskreecH | NSaibot: ^F9 I think |
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| 21:47.23 | DrSlony | DaskreecH its a mime-type action specified in kcontrolcenter, i just dont know which one |
| 21:47.27 | NSaibot | DaskreecH: thanks |
| 21:47.39 | DrSlony | which mime-type applies to all link in konversation? |
| 21:47.45 | NSaibot | lilltiger: not the process manager, thanks anyway :) still usefull |
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| 21:48.53 | lilltiger | what else then the processmanager can showall apps runing at once.. |
| 21:49.03 | lilltiger | that isent an terminal command :p |
| 21:49.56 | NSaibot | yeah sorry, didn't know how to put it propperly :) |
| 21:50.54 | lilltiger | Display all open windows, maybe. |
| 21:51.33 | NSaibot | smartass, eh? |
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| 21:55.46 | olskolirc | hey guys i have hardy heron how do I safely and properly download kde4 please? |
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| 21:58.21 | DaskreecH | olskolirc: I assume you want to stay with Hardy and not use Ibex? |
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| 21:59.13 | pinotree | olskolirc: question for #kubuntu, not #kde |
| 21:59.28 | tremby | how do i get an application menu when i right click the desktop in KDE4? |
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| 22:01.27 | tremby | and how do i get rid of the widget thingy in the top right hand corner? |
| 22:01.38 | DrSlony | Help, I need to run this every time I boot into KDE, where would be the best place to put it so it runs automatically? nvidia-settings -a InitialPixmapPlacement=2 -a GlyphCache=1 |
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| 22:02.09 | tremby | DrSlony: try ~/.kde/Autostart |
| 22:02.18 | DrSlony | thank you |
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| 22:02.31 | DrSlony | em |
| 22:02.36 | DrSlony | ~/.kde4/Autostart? |
| 22:02.48 | tremby | maybe. i'm running kde4 for the first time today. |
| 22:03.11 | DrSlony | my Autostart is a dir, can I just create any old .sh there, or how does it work? |
| 22:03.19 | tremby | yeah, do that |
| 22:03.24 | tremby | make sure it's executable |
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| 22:04.32 | DrSlony | aight, did it, lets hope it works :] |
| 22:04.34 | DrSlony | thx\ |
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| 22:19.53 | kim0 | I'm noticing an issue with 4.1.2 on Fedora10 with nvidia drivers. It's basically that KDE never powers off the screen ... the screen saver keeps running for ages |
| 22:20.09 | kim0 | although I set the suspend and power off to 10 & 11 minutes |
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| 22:27.41 | TD-Linux | quick question: KDE 4 in 64 MB of RAM. Should I even try? |
| 22:27.50 | nick125 | How much swap do you have? |
| 22:28.41 | TD-Linux | well technically it's 24MB of RAM + 64MB of slower ram as swap |
| 22:28.50 | TD-Linux | and as much swap as I want |
| 22:29.07 | TD-Linux | but swap will be really slow as it would be on flash memory |
| 22:29.33 | TD-Linux | that 64MB of slower ram is going to join main RAM |
| 22:29.39 | TD-Linux | right now it being swap is a nasty hack |
| 22:29.48 | tremby | i have two displays, :0 and :0.1. i have the default X cursor if i'm on an empty bit of :0.1. how can i get a desktop there? |
| 22:30.05 | tremby | kwin is running on it... |
| 22:30.33 | nick125 | TD-Linux: You could try it...I mean, KDE4 is a bit leaner than KDE3 imho. |
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| 22:35.11 | TD-Linux | okay I will |
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| 22:41.27 | blip- | hi all, i've been searching for months for a good electronic system that will let me manage email/calendar/notes/todo etc... i tried mozilla thunderbird with sunbird for calendar.... i tried google offerings... i tried hosting an ical file online and syncying with it via thunerbird. After coming across Kontact and using it for many weeks now i think it's almost perfect of my requirements. but i've got a few questions about if someone can please clarify: |
| 22:41.44 | impulze | what's the right way to show available screen saver from user X, if user X installed his screensaver into /home/$user/kdestuff without touching /etc? |
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| 22:42.08 | blip- | 1) via kmail i access my email with imap... but i want to actually save mail to hard disk. so i tried cached imap account, but it never manages to connect to the server... while regular imap account works fine |
| 22:42.31 | FreakGuard | blip-, well, same problem here |
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| 22:43.03 | blip- | 2) in your experiences how do you arrange your tasks wether it be personal and work etc.... do you just use todo lists and organize by categories ? |
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| 22:43.58 | blip- | for example my work involves coding... so i have a CODE category in the todo list where i add bugs that need to be fixed and system enhancmenets that need to be made |
| 22:44.11 | FuriousGeorge | i just compiled kde on gentoo, and i get this when i try to start kdm: |
| 22:44.25 | blip- | then i have a SHOPPING category where i list things i want to eventually purchase. |
| 22:44.52 | FuriousGeorge | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:44.52 | FuriousGeorge | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:44.54 | blip- | actually i'm confused ... where the Journal and Notes sections of Kontact come into play ? |
| 22:45.04 | FuriousGeorge | does anyone know why that might be hapening? i googled around, and i cant find anything |
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| 22:47.42 | blip- | FreakGuard: same problem on the cached imap or general computerization of your appointments/meetings/tasks/email/etc... ie life ? |
| 22:47.56 | FreakGuard | blip-, I don't even get the imap to cache |
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| 22:48.53 | blip- | FreakGuard: hmm, so you have a "cached imap" type account ... it connects fine.... but it doesn't save mail locally ? |
| 22:49.45 | FreakGuard | blip-, I tried an offline imap |
| 22:50.02 | FreakGuard | but with 3k mails it's just ugly - it uploads (wtf?) all the mails on a check |
| 22:50.16 | FreakGuard | something like a cache for online imap would be nice |
| 22:50.44 | FreakGuard | just save the mails locally you allready read - and with a button "push" or "get" from server |
| 22:50.58 | FreakGuard | perhaps more somthing like "get" :) |
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| 22:52.39 | blip- | FreakGuard: i just checked it seems the term is "Disconnected IMAP".... actually in Thunderbird you can simply change things in the account settings to make it save locally in case you want to check your old mail contents while you don't have internet access.... i don't quite understand why kmail has 2 account types ? So none of these are like saving mail offline feature in Thunderbird ? |
| 22:52.57 | FreakGuard | blip-, ask the developers |
| 22:53.01 | FreakGuard | it's really a flaw of kmail |
| 22:54.03 | pinotree | blip-: the disconnected imap is like normal imap, but emails are cached locally |
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| 22:55.58 | blip- | pinotree: so i'm missing the point somewhat, cached locally means saved so i can view mail without internet access right ? If so then why does "imap" work perfectly but "disconnected imap" using the exact same server settings fails to connect ? |
| 22:56.18 | pinotree | a bug? |
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| 22:57.52 | FreakGuard | pinotree, well, it doesn't really work here |
| 22:58.02 | FreakGuard | pinotree, kmail uploads all mails :/ |
| 22:58.05 | FreakGuard | on a check |
| 22:58.16 | pinotree | what did i say above? |
| 22:58.19 | pinotree | <pinotree> a bug? |
| 22:59.29 | DaskreecH | Possibly a lady bug |
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| 23:01.19 | blip- | pinotree: hmmm, im using KDE 3.5.10 and Kmail 1.9.10.... a serious bug such as not bieng able to locally save your email for use on a train/plane/boat is quite a serious bug which would've been fixed by now right ? |
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| 23:01.55 | pinotree | blip-: disconnected imap works here, and i'm using it for more than one year and half at work |
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| 23:03.11 | blip- | pinotree: could it relate to the type of imap server i'm using ? In this case it's cyrus and security is SSL - clear text Authentication |
| 23:03.23 | pinotree | i have no idea, sorry |
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| 23:04.12 | blip- | np. thanks pinotree |
| 23:04.19 | blip- | thanks FreakGuard |
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| 23:29.59 | RingtailedFox | hiya. i have a question regarding putting programs in the system tray under KDE 3.5.9... the programs are fairly old X programs... Yahoo! for UNIX, and AIM for UNIX/Linux, as well as XMMS.... is there a way i can "minimise to tray" when using those apps? |
| 23:31.15 | nick125 | Unless they have some facility for minimizing to tray builtin, there probably isn't a way to minimize them to tray...though..why not use kopete and something like amarok instead? |
| 23:31.58 | RingtailedFox | i do use amarok |
| 23:32.14 | RingtailedFox | well, i'm just used to using xmms and Y! for UNIX, as well |
| 23:32.18 | RingtailedFox | but i'll give kopete a go |
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