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00:12.41CoJaBo-EeeIs it possible to show CPU usage in the taskbar or show an alert if the CPU stays at 100% for a while?
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00:18.38demo_How do I detect a new display on kDE 4.1 ?
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00:22.50holycowhi
00:23.10demo_hi holycow
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00:23.41holycowwhat application does kde4 use for managing images on a camera?
00:23.58holycowi installed kamera-kde4 but that seems like an addon component to another app
00:24.17demo_holycow: Normally digikam
00:24.22holycowohhhh
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00:39.17mfilipewhat is the channel to help me with kde develop?
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00:40.42eegorehas anyone here worked with kde 4.1 with customizing quick launch keystrokes?
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00:43.01developerNewbiedoes anyone know a program I can I use to view avaliable dbus connections in kubuntu 8.10 kde4?
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00:46.15jtismedeveloperNewbie, qdbus and qdbusviewer
00:46.32developerNewbiewhere can I get the packages?
00:46.56jtismeapt-get install qdbus
00:47.19jtismeqdbus viewer is in qt4 something let me look
00:48.25developerNewbiesudo apt-get install qdbus: coudnt find package qdbus
00:49.13jtismeapt-get install dbus
00:49.22jtismefor qdbus
00:49.59developerNewbieok
00:50.55developerNewbiethen how do I view the xdbus app?
00:50.59developerNewbie*qdbus
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00:52.11jtismedont know about the xdbus app but all dbus apps are seen using  qdbus from command line
00:52.31jtismei am looking for the pkg of gui pkg qdbusviewer
00:54.01jtismeapt-get install qt4-dev-tools   for  gui  qdbusviewer
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00:54.24developerNewbieok thanks
00:54.49developerNewbieyes qdbus lists the application how do I get more detail and view the functions/connections?
00:55.02jtismeqdbusviewer
00:55.15jtismeor qdbus  appname
00:55.19developerNewbieok
00:55.32developerNewbiethanks for yor time
00:55.33developerNewbie:)
00:55.38jtismesure
00:56.31jtismeanyone know how to 'save multiple desktop konsole sessions'  'save session' does not do it yet and neither does dbus ...
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01:03.22Segajahi, what is the console command, to get into the kde 3.5.9 control center?
01:03.47kdepepokcontrol
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01:04.06Segajahm, it doenst exist under KDE 4.1 anymore
01:04.30kdepepoYou said 3.5.9...
01:04.49Segajayes, thats right
01:05.09Segajabecuase in the kde 4.1 control center the options aren't visible anymore
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01:05.51Segajain kcontrol there was a section in the key bindings where you could specify keys for default kde programms
01:05.59Segajawhere did they leave that in kde 4.1?
01:06.05kdepepoknown bug
01:06.24Segajathat bug is my problem
01:06.35Segajasome shortcuts from this section have gone mad
01:06.37kdepeponot only yours :) use 3.5
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01:07.06Segajai use fluxbox, but i can't use andy kde programm
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01:22.19eegoreanyone here work with KDE 4.1
01:23.15Jucatodepends on what you mean by "work with"
01:24.45eegoreI need to know if there is a configuration tool I can use to customize quick launch keystrokes
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01:28.05Jucatoeegore: there is, but it doesn't matter anyway. the system is broken. partly fixed in 4.2
01:28.42Jucatoat least for those keyboard shortcuts that fall under a) application launchers and b) Input Actions (custom shortcuts)
01:29.15Jucatothere are some that work. the ones you can find in System Settings -> Keyboard & Mouse -> Keyboard Shortcuts
01:30.20CoJaBo-EeeIs it possible to show CPU usage in the taskbar or show an alert if the CPU stays at 100% for a while?
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01:30.46SnovaHow do I change the keyboard layout?
01:31.50JucatoCoJaBo-Eee: possible? technically yes. but you need a widget/applet (Plasmoid) that does that. there's nothing built-in
01:31.59holycowJucato: are you a dev or some sort of uber tester qc type person?
01:32.06JucatoO.o
01:32.08holycowlol you know a hell of a lot about kde
01:32.14Jucatoheh :)
01:32.30JucatoSnova: System Settings -> Regional & Language -> Keyboard Layout
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01:32.42Jucatoholycow: I'm a contributor, yes. though probably not yet much of a dev :)
01:32.52holycowaha neato
01:32.56SnovaJucato: It never seems to do anything... I try Alt-T and get nothing.
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01:33.04JucatoSnova: Alt+T?
01:33.17holycowits nice to have very knowledgeable people in here
01:33.18SnovaJucato: Maybe it's just what I'm used to.
01:33.19Jucatowhat is Alt+T supposed to do?
01:33.23holycowkde is quite the beast
01:33.27SnovaJucato: Insert a thorn.
01:33.37Jucatoah what? O.o
01:33.44Jucatois lost
01:34.01SnovaJucato: Special character that, under Gnome, could be obtained by changing the layout and pressing Right Alt + T
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01:34.30Jucatoah
01:34.32SnovaJucato: I think I found it.
01:34.49SnovaJucato: Þis is a þorn.
01:34.54Jucatois totally unfamiliar with keyboards
01:34.56Jucatooh
01:35.03Jucato:þ
01:35.05SnovaJucato: äåéëþüúúíóö - they work.
01:35.10Jucatogood :)
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01:35.18CoJaBo-EeeJucato: I couldn't find out what to install or how to intall it, and the option to install new only lists 3 available.
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01:36.50JucatoCoJaBo-Eee: try looking in kde-look.org
01:37.04Jucatobut such a widget just might require some amount of compilation
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01:42.02CoJaBo-EeeJucato: Is there a way to search for ones that run in the taskbar?
01:42.17eegoreJucato: what part is broken
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01:44.14Jucato[09:29] <Jucato> at least for those keyboard shortcuts that fall under a) application launchers and b) Input Actions (custom shortcuts)
01:44.15Jucato[09:29] <Jucato> there are some that work. the ones you can find in System Settings -> Keyboard & Mouse -> Keyboard Shortcuts
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01:44.18Jucatoeegore: ^^^
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01:44.57JucatoCoJaBo-Eee: theoretically, widgets should be able to run on both desktop and panel. that's one of the issues that Plasma tries to solve (vs. KDE 3)
01:45.18Jucatobut in reality, there are some widgets that work better on the desktop or on the panel...
01:45.21Jucatotrial and error
01:45.29CoJaBo-EeeJucato: All of the ones that came up when I searched are very large.
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01:46.58JucatoCoJaBo-Eee: of course widgets can take different forms depending on whether they are put on the desktop or on the panel. like the Device Notifier widget on the panel
01:47.14Jucatoon the panel, it just has an icon that pops up when you click or when a new device is inserted. on the desktop, it presents a list
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01:48.24eegoreJucato: there is no menu selection for an applicatioon shortcut
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01:48.43Jucatoeegore: there is in the Menu Editor. but like I said, it's not working anyway
01:48.56Jucatoright-click on the K Menu -> Menu Editor
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01:49.19pavonhi, when KSpread shows #### because there is an error in a formula, how can I get a description of the error?
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01:50.12CoJaBo-EeeJucato: Only the desktop version is shown, no indication if taskbar is supported or how it looks..
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01:51.42eegoreJucato: I noticed
01:51.53eegorewill an update fix that?
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01:52.11Jucato[09:28] <Jucato> eegore: there is, but it doesn't matter anyway. the system is broken. partly fixed in 4.2
01:52.25JucatoCoJaBo-Eee: [09:45] <Jucato> trial and error
01:52.47JucatoCoJaBo-Eee: or you could post on the kde-look.org page for that applet and ask if it can be used for the panel
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02:36.11ballzeehow can i set the task bar back to normal i think i messed it all up
02:36.45ballzeeid settle for one that looked like http://www.linux.com/var/uploads/Image/articles/124683.png
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02:44.36nanothiefballzee, what does it look like atm?
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02:51.41_mary_kate_is there a better media player for kde4 than dragon?  (it doesn't seem to have any way to adjust a/v sync..)
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03:05.15ballzeethe task manager is not wide and programs run on top of it
03:05.16aseigoballzee: you can reset all of plasma by deleting plasma-appletsrc and plasmarc
03:05.35aseigo_mary_kate_: kaffeine, though their kde4 port is still beta..
03:05.44aseigo_mary_kate_: vlc is written using qt4 which is close
03:05.48ballzeedo i have to restart kde ?
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03:09.02aseigoballzee: no, just kquitapp plasma; delete those files, start plasma again
03:12.05blauzahlcan i just delete one if i want my taskbar "normal", but don't want to mess with my plasmoids?
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03:19.48ballzeeok im gona do it now
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03:21.36ballzeei dont see them in my /home dir
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03:26.04blauzahl_mary_kate_: you can go non-kde if you are looking for video and kde4
03:26.15blauzahlballzee: under .kde4/
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03:33.04mamefanIn KDE3 (kubuntu hardy) krdc would close when I ended an RDP session.  Now in KDE 4 (kubuntu intrepid) it stays open.  Is there some way I can have it automatically close when the remote session ends?
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03:41.01blauzahlmamefan: #kubuntu maybe? might be #kubuntu-kde4
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04:08.09Yanroy_hi all
04:08.28Yanroy_is there a widget I can get that will use NUT to show me the status of my UPS in the tray by the clock?
04:08.52Yanroy_things like charge status, current power draw, notification if the power went out while I was away from my desk, etc
04:10.34Yanroy_and if not, how hard is it to make one?  I can get all the data I need from running upsc
04:10.40Yanroy_I could parse the output, I gues
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04:38.01jtismecan anyone point me to the kde4  .desktop  config language white paper
04:38.20jtismei need to know how to write a  .desktop  startup file
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06:46.25Bearcathey folks. I'm using sourcemage (think Gentoo but in bash) and kde 4.1.3. It seems like phonon is blocking other apps (mplayer, mythtv) from getting access to the sound card. Is that normal behavior?
06:46.54Bearcati mean i though it was an api, not a soundcard locking server
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06:49.43bonsaikittenBearcat: gentoo ebuilds _are_ bash ...
06:50.14Bearcatbonsaikitten: i thought they were written in perl or something
06:50.24bonsaikittenno, but portage is python
06:50.44Bearcatahh. Sourcemage is pure bash code
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06:51.02bonsaikittenanyway, your issue sounds like your soundcard only allows one input stream
06:51.40Bearcatbonsaikitten: hmm it's a ten channel card, but that could be. There is no internal mixer
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06:53.07Bearcatbonsaikitten: i'm not entirely sure i understand how all this works, so bear with me. If i were in say, gnome i could use a gstreamer app. and then play something with mplayer.  perhaps not at the same time, mind y
06:53.33bonsaikittenah. what does phonon use for output?
06:53.39Bearcatyou but it seems that if kde4 is up and running *only* kde4 apps can give sound
06:53.41bonsaikitten(in your config I mean)
06:53.46Bearcatbonsaikitten: xine engine
06:53.55bonsaikittenand that uses alsa?
06:53.59Bearcatyes
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07:05.02BearcatJucato: [AO_ALSA] alsa-lib: pcm_hw.c:1321:(snd_pcm_hw_open) open /dev/snd/pcmC1D0p failed: Device or resource busy
07:05.02Bearcat[AO_ALSA] Playback open error: Device or resource busy
07:05.02BearcatCould not open/initialize audio device -> no sound.
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07:06.08Bearcatbut it works find outside of kde4
07:07.17Jucato:(
07:07.28Jucatosucks that I'm no sound guru :(
07:07.35Bearcatyes. yes it does.
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07:07.37Bearcat:"P
07:09.25Jucato:3
07:11.00Bearcatoh...i'm holding the same convo with you in two rooms ...classy.
07:11.50Jucato:P
07:12.04Jucatokonfused, little kitty? :)
07:12.55Bearcatquite
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07:13.04Bearcatlittle?!
07:13.09Bearcatanyhow, yeah i am
07:13.27Bearcatdoesn't phonon use nas or something?
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08:41.20internet1ubre
08:42.17internet1къде сте бре
08:43.22internet1ама сте кавали
08:43.55jachin??? ??? ??????
08:44.27internet1не знаеш ли български бре
08:44.37thiagoEnglish please
08:44.58jachinI couldn't understand your message in Russian.
08:45.14internet1no bulgarian
08:45.20jachin:)
08:45.24jachinThanks.
08:45.44jachinSo, what would you say?
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08:46.54guardianmorning
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08:47.25internet1hi
08:47.42blauzahl#kde-chat please
08:48.12blauzahl;)
08:48.16internet1how you
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08:48.47blauzahlinternet1: go to #kde-chat and I'll tell you. :D
08:49.14elmargolhttp://elmargol.soup.io/post/6713919/Bild http://elmargol.soup.io/post/6714356/Bild any ideas?
08:49.19zeltakhi
08:49.35zeltakdoes any one know the dev status of basket for kde 4?
08:50.40internet1noooo
08:50.44internet1tumna indiq
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08:51.50internet1there fedora maniacs
08:52.38internet1еи капутцхета
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08:57.14internet1Now what
08:58.08internet1there chicks
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08:59.34chakie_workhi
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08:59.49chakie_workis it possible to get a 4.1.2 to remember some settings when you exit?
09:00.06internet1http://hanovete.com/?recruit=14173
09:00.31chakie_workduring the last 60 days i was logged in a cusomized pretty much, for instance i added loads of "profiles" to KOnsole and now they're all gone
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09:10.03chakie_workso, is it worth trying to set up a nice working environment or will all settings justbe lost the next time i log out?
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09:27.04elmargolHow do I start a kde3 application using a different locale? env LANG="...." does not work
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09:31.12Jucatoelmargol: KDE_LANG="" <appname>
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09:31.50elmargolJucato: thank you... wired i still have this font issues :(
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09:57.09hwDoes anyone know a good replacement for amarok? Its good for local MP3's has problems with streams... =)
09:58.00xdan779hw: what kind of streams are you trying to listen to
09:58.38hwAFAIK it is always MP3 streams...
09:59.50zeltakdoes anyone know how to make the laptop go into suspend when i close the lid in kubuntu kde 4.1 (intrepid)?
10:00.40xdan779hw: amarok does not have an issue with mp3 streams, is there any other info you can provide ?
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10:04.35hwxdan779: amarok has 2 problems: 1.) It tells me 5-times that I do not have a correct decoder installed and at the 6th try it plays the stream. 2.) If a stream server is not reachable the whole application hangs. Thats why I look for a replacement and indeed it is not a problem with MP3 itself... =)
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10:10.00summeloO what happened to kde-apps.org?
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10:12.52xdan779hw: that is more info so now we know what amarok is telling you. but beyond that ?? where are the mp3 streams you are listening coming from, do they list any requirements settings
10:13.37xdan779how can we know the problem amarok is encountering won;t be encountered by another app
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10:19.13hwxdan779: Because I listen to same the streams @work and @home. @home I use foobar2000 and it works perfekt. @work I use amarok the problem. And that the whole applications hangs at not reachable streams is definitely a design/programming error of amarok.
10:19.38_RedGhost_hw: amarok 2?
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10:20.05hw_RedGhost_: With kde 3.5.6? Hmm...
10:20.13_RedGhost_ah, ok
10:20.40_RedGhost_try on  #amarok?
10:21.04summelhw: you can use amarok2 in kde 3
10:21.17hw_RedGhost_:  Oh, I didn't know that #chan
10:21.27tinis there a way to get kicker to show up on all my desktops?
10:21.52tinie: when i switch to desktop 2 right now, kicker doesn't show up
10:22.00summeltin: you could make it wider so it goes across both
10:22.06summelah virtual desktops
10:22.07tinit's 100%
10:22.08summelthats strange
10:22.17tinyeah, virtual, not multimonitor
10:22.26summelhmm should work...
10:22.41tini think i recall it doing it before, but i haven't tried in a long time
10:22.46tinlike 3.0 time
10:22.51summelhmm
10:22.58hw_RedGhost_: Are you using amarok for streams as well? =)
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10:23.34tinnothing in any docs i've found, and no apparent options in the panel config
10:24.03summeltin: it _should_ work out of the box
10:24.12_RedGhost_hw: I'm using mpd at the moment :)
10:24.14summelit worked for me on the last kde 3 i used
10:24.17tindang
10:24.28summel3.5.9 i think
10:25.05hw_RedGhost_: console or GUI. I'll give it a try... =)
10:25.07tinhow about with plasma? maybe i'll make the upgrade to kubuntu 8.10
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10:25.16tinoh, let me boot that VM
10:25.55tini installed 8.10 to a VirtualBox to see how i like it before updating the big boy
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10:27.49_RedGhost_hw: daemon with a variety of frontends (console and gui)
10:27.53summelhmm i noticed that kde 4 is kinda unstable in kubuntu :/
10:27.58summelbut it works fine in arch :)
10:28.22summelbesides of that annoying compositing-bug with the intel drivers :/
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10:29.51tini was thinking maybe actually un-K-ing kubuntu 8.10 and tracking KDE myself
10:30.04xdan779summel: you are not alone, if you use kubuntu it may be wise to stick with the 3.5 series or maybe check the kubuntu channel for tips on running kde4
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10:30.33tini like to use package management when it's there, but something big like KDE, or something that update alot but always stays compatible, like Blender, I'll do myself
10:31.06tinactually, they're discussing kde4 stability in #kubuntu right now
10:33.22summelxdan779: i dont use it anymore :)
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10:33.31summelkdemod on arch runs really good
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10:35.33xdan779summel: understood I am running kde4 on slamd64 very stable, but no easy packaging need to be compiled
10:36.12summelxdan779: arch has i686 and x86_64 optimized packages, and a source package management like gentoo ;)
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10:36.22xdan779the kde4 packages provided with slackware current are surprisingly very stable as well
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10:37.27tinok, i just restarted kicker, and now it's there on other desktops
10:37.34summeltin: ah :)
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11:11.56pinheirosome one experienced with kdsvn-build here
11:12.04pinheiroor bulding kde for that matr?
11:12.07pinheiromater
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11:27.41Half-Leftpinheiro: me :)
11:28.23Half-Leftpinheiro: whats the problem?
11:28.59pinheiroCMake Error: The source directory "/home/kde4/kdesvn/build/kdesupport/ -DBUILD_phonon=OFF" does not exist.
11:29.30pinheiroin kde suport
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11:29.45Half-LeftSo your trying to disable Phonon?
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11:30.56pinheiroduno
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11:31.52Half-Leftpinheiro: Create a build directory in kdesupport and run cmake from there, cmake ../ -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX="mypath"
11:32.59Jucatonot familiar with kdesvn-build,but it seems that it is treating -DBUILD_phonon=OFF as part of the directory name
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11:34.15Half-Leftahhh different from manual then
11:34.39pinheirono idea
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11:35.38Half-LeftJust bring down  and build svn manually, we can help more :p
11:37.04annmakdesvn-build is pretty broken
11:38.19annmapinheiro: your perception as an artist that a theme sucks isnot the perception of users
11:38.51annmawhen you say distro X theme sucks, users do not agree
11:39.21pinheirook
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11:40.17martijn81hi, the anonymous svn server is down, is this only for me?
11:43.00Half-Leftannma: Well most of the time designers do it to try and please people, Distro X is done to look as it is because they think it's good for the user, nothing to do with design
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11:43.47annmapinheiro said distros themes suck, I say they don't for most users
11:45.52annmamartijn81: mine seems down too, Iget 'connection refused'
11:47.02martijn81annma: ok :)
11:47.17annmaI use kde svn but I tried anon for you
11:47.23pinheiroannma: and maybe that is a litle explenation how come we have so few users
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11:47.37pinheirobut i dont want to discuss that
11:47.57pinheiroi try to keep my ands off distros and distr wars
11:48.31annmathe problem in plasma are other themes, are they maintained?
11:48.52Half-LeftYou always risk alienating users with new designs or ideas
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11:51.17pinheiroannma: other themes are made by other theme creators
11:51.24annmayes I know
11:51.31annmabut I wondered if they are maintained
11:51.34pinheiroso its up to them
11:51.45annmawell as we ship them it's bad for us
11:51.59annmaI'll bring that out before 4.2 if they are not fixed
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11:54.19pinheiroannma: you on mandriva?
11:54.52pinheiroi several times ofered my help to mandriva
11:55.03pinheiroits my distro
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11:55.18pinheirothe only i would be willing to help
11:55.40thparIs there a way yet to make KDE4.1.2 play nice with cups printers?
11:55.47pinheiroand they give vip membership to the club
11:56.17thparnon-kde apps show the list of available printers... but KDE apps (Okular, KWrite, ...) just hang...
11:57.28thparif I remove the ServerName line from /etc/cups/client.conf they don't hang... but of course they don't show my printers either...
11:57.51pinotreethpar: ask in #qt
11:58.25thparpinotree: it's not KDE related? Ok, I'll try there
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12:06.24killfillis there a network monitor forkde?
12:06.37killfillthe systemmonitor doesnt do network.. :S
12:06.54Half-Leftwow, Linux Today gives so much reporting to Ubuntu it's unreal
12:07.13Half-LeftKDE dont get much at all(kubuntu)
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12:12.16bonsaikittenHalf-Left: obviously kde must suck ;)
12:14.01Half-Leftbonsaikitten: I feel sorry for Ubuntu users, they are being treated like Windows users, small updates and false promises
12:14.22bonsaikittenI'm stuck on ubuntu at work. It is sad.
12:14.32bonsaikittenwants to liberate that computer ...
12:15.54Half-LeftWell it's not like they can't change, I run Ubuntu repos but I have the power to compile my own KDE4.x
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12:16.34bonsaikittenI lack the diskspace for that, so I'm stuck with an ancient broken kde.
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12:17.43Half-LeftMy own custom kernel and trunk build
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12:20.15bonsaikittenHalf-Left: that would be nice to have
12:23.36Half-Left:)
12:25.07Billeuse something like the opensuse buildservice or ubuntu's PPA to build newer packages for your system then
12:25.32Billethere's no reason that your local limitations should reduce your fun.
12:25.39Billeyour sysadmin at work might not be so keen on it though ;)
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12:29.16bonsaikittenBille: I am a sysadmin, but I need to convince my boss that I need some freedom
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12:29.41Gentleanything wrong with anonsvn.kde.org ?
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12:43.35thparmaybe a question that can be answered here (I get no reaction in #qt): is KDE4.1.2 able to see CUPS printers and use them? As now KDE apps hang when I specify a CUPS server...
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12:46.09Jucatothpar: the reason pinotree told you to ask in #qt is because it is a printing bug whose roots are in Qt
12:46.33Jucatoa.k.a. "we can't do much about it until it's fixed there"
12:46.58thparJucato: fair enough. And is it solvable yet or should I for now just copy paste stuff to eg. OpenOffice ?
12:47.18thparcause non-kde seems at least to find the printer list
12:47.32Jucatowell non-KDE *4* to be exact
12:47.38Jucatodunno if it's solvable/solved yet
12:47.44thparJucato: right.
12:47.58Jucato(meaning, you can use KDE 3 apps to print too, if you have them)
12:48.26_RedGhost_Addmitedly, the state of printing in KDE 4 leaves much to be desired
12:48.27thparJucato: I'm afraid I just wanted to print some pdf's and the only viewer I've left is the very nice Okular
12:48.34thparJucato: except it doesn't print :-)
12:48.41_RedGhost_kpdf works
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12:49.46Rasihi
12:49.54Rasiare there any hints on how to speed up konqueror?
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12:50.06Rasiat least here opera and firefox are MUCH faster
12:50.17Rasiusing latest trunk, btw
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13:08.21iomariwhy can't I use the kde4 yakuake on kde 3. It seems to work fine except onceI reftract it I can't get it back unless I call the program again.
13:08.44Sho_Some problem with KDE 4 global shortcuts in KDE 3, I guess
13:09.05Sho_I used to use Yakuake/4 in KDE 3 just fine, but that was with KDE 4.0 kdelibs, perhaps there have been changes in 4.1 that break it
13:09.32iomariSho_: it's kust the F12 key. It works on retract but not on pul down.
13:09.34Sho_As a workaround, you could use KDE 3 Input Actions in KControl to set up your own global shortcut and have it run "yakuake"
13:09.45Sho_(or qdbus org.kde.yakuake /yakuake/window toggleWindowState)
13:10.14Sho_iomari: Check that you have set F12 in the "Global" column of the Configure Shortcuts dialog
13:10.42iomariSho_: It's set. that's why it retracts ok.
13:10.42Sho_If you set it in Shortcut or Alternate it will be app-local, and thus can only work within Yakuake (as e.g. in the retract case)
13:11.05Sho_iomari: It would also retract OK if it was set in Shortcut or Alternate. But only Global would work for pull down.
13:11.35iomariSho_: ok I'll check. thanks
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13:25.37MarcoPauhello, just installed kde 4 and there's a whole bunch of things I can't find any more from kde 3. Is there any page around that explains differences...?
13:27.02thparMarcoPau: I don't know about the page, but just poke around... I think it's fairly intuitive...
13:27.39thparMarcoPau: and google/ask about the stuff you're really missing...
13:27.47cb400fyeah.. kdesktop and kicker replaced by plasma, kcontrol replaced by systemsettings.. dolphin new default file manager.. that's the jist of it
13:27.49thparI for one miss being able to print :-)
13:28.59thparnext to the printing issue, I think the main drawback is the performance of my NVidia card... I really hope new drivers will help...
13:29.50thparafter some tweeking, kwin and plasma seem to do ok now... but everything else is very slow... (screensavers, games, ...)
13:30.06Jucatohttp://www.kde.org/announcements/4.0/ and  http://www.kde.org/announcements/4.1/
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13:37.23Barbadillohi all, i got problems with system tray's icons
13:37.37Barbadillothey don't look correctly
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13:38.42Barbadillohttp://www.freeimagehosting.net/image.php?4d4eeb7d19.png
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13:41.24boom1992Barbadillo: known fixed in 4.2
13:41.40Barbadilloreally?
13:41.55Barbadilloboom1992: how can i install 4.2?
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13:42.15Barbadilloi'm on kubuntu 8.10
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13:42.38boom1992Barbadillo: it's alpha still
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13:42.41boom1992so wait better ;)
13:42.46Barbadilloah ok
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13:43.23Tegelanehi, is anonsvn down?
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13:44.25bb__Hi - Kontact crashes when I switch to the Task-Tab. See: http://paste.ubuntu.com/68838/ - where can I get help? I use KUbuntu 8.10, KDE4
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13:45.12boom1992bb__: #kubuntu-kde4 probaly ;)
13:45.19boom1992Tegelane: perobalby yeah :P
13:45.21boom1992probably
13:45.36boom1992bb__: or report a bug ;)
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13:48.39Tegelanedarn, win32 build is broken in my checkout and now i can't update :(
13:49.07bb__boom1992:  ok, so nothing I can do on my machine?
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13:49.48boom1992bb__: ya :P
13:49.53bb__boom1992: where should I file the bug?
13:49.59boom1992bb__: bugs.kde.org
13:50.01boom1992;)
13:50.02pinotreehttps://bugs.kde.org
13:50.08bb__thx
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13:51.19otihhi, is anybody working in fixing down anonsvn.kde.org ???
13:51.20danttiHi, I don't have openoffice installed and i'm in a HURRY
13:51.39danttican someone please say how in koffice2 can i rotate the page?
13:51.45danttilike porttrait i think.
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13:56.53MarcoPaucb400f: well, the menu is way different, can't even find kcontrol and storage devices, desktop lost all the files, thou I still have them in ~/Desktop/, kvirc doesn't work with transparency (maybe its own issue), can't move the desktop buttons in the bar, some keyboard shotcuts don't work any more, don't have the "quick launch" icons in the bar any more etc...
13:57.01mitsarionashi... i recently got an unknown error on some plasmoids... ideas anyone?
13:57.03MarcoPaucb400f: anyway nice motorbike :-)
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13:57.12MarcoPaucb400f: I ride a Morini 3 1/2 Sport
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14:00.27thparMarcoPau: desktop lost all files: the desktop indeed doesn't show file icons anymore. It will if you add the folder view plasmoid to the desktop and set it to 'desktop'
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14:01.39zaishazahi, i'm new to kubuntu after recently switching from ubuntu. i'm having trouble moving stuff around in the panel at the bottom of the screen. i right click it, select panel settings and start moving stuff, but it keeps springing back to weird positions. any idea what i need to do?
14:01.51zaishazait's kde 4.1 i think.
14:01.52thparMarcoPau: move buttons in the bar: click the round button at the right of the panel... it will enable you to drag around icons
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14:02.30thparMarcoPau: add quick launch icons: in the new style menu: right click a program -> add to desktop or add to panel
14:02.52stonedgood morning
14:03.02thparMarcoPau: kcontrol has been replaced I believe... start menu -> computer -> system settings
14:03.41thparMarcoPau: keyboard shortcuts: set them back (system settings, keyboard)
14:03.52zaishazathis is frustrating. every time i drag an icon it springs back to where it was. horrible stuff.
14:04.02stonedlol
14:04.30MarcoPauthpar: and what about that black window that I have in each desktop?
14:05.20thparMarcoPau: storage devices: don't they show up in start menu -> computer? And usb sticks and cd's show in dolphin and in a plasmoid 'recent devices'
14:05.22MarcoPauthpar: I quit it but don't actually get what that was for
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14:05.40zaishazagod, this is shit.
14:05.50thparMarcoPau: just trying to help since I'm kinda stuck on my own problems here :-)
14:06.01thparMarcoPau: no idea what black window you are referring to
14:06.11MarcoPauthpar: I'll get back later and try to figure out a few things thanks to your hints...
14:06.43MarcoPauthpar: heh, it's kinda weird switching... will have to get used to more than a few things I suppose
14:06.43thparMarcoPau: you're welcome... I got rid of my missing KDE3.5 frustrations after about two days :-)
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14:07.23MarcoPauthanks for now anyway, I'll bug you later in case ;-D
14:07.34MarcoPauciao
14:07.47thparMarcoPau: succes
14:08.12MarcoPau:)
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14:11.40RasiMarcoPau: that black window is probably nothing but a plasmoid
14:11.49Rasiyou can make it disappear by righclicking it -> close
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14:13.50thparlooks forward to Fedora 10, hoping it will have KDE4.2 with a whole bunch of little annoyances fixed...
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14:16.45wongkwhat config file are the theme colors stored in in kde 3?
14:17.47Jucato~/.kde/share/apps/kdisplay/color-schemes
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14:19.34wongkJucato: i don't have a kdisplay dir... but i think that may be something different, i meant the config for the current kde color scheme
14:20.27Jucatoah
14:21.07Jucato~/.kde/share/config/kdeglobals colorScheme=
14:21.35codestr0mgeneral question.. would guys say the available kde gui tools for managing packages are better for rpm, deb or another format?
14:21.44codestr0mkde4*
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14:21.46wongkJucato: thx!
14:22.33otihhi, is anybody working on a fix for the down anonsvn.kde.org ???
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14:23.28wongki don't suppose i could use a kde4 color scheme in kde3 and expecit to work at all?
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14:23.50praedorI'm running Mandriva 2009.0, KDE 4.1.2 and am having an icon issue.
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14:25.04annahi there, anonsvn.kde.org hates me, doesn't allow svn connection, anybody can confirm or deny?
14:25.27praedorI just installed the Futuresoft theme and hit "apply".  Konqueror adopted the new theme but not kmail and dolphin only PARTIALLY adopted it - only a few folder icons switched to the new icon theme for folders.  Why is this?  Is there some way to force dolphin to adopt the new icons en masse rather than forcing me to manually change each and every icon?
14:26.11Jucatowongk: nope. two different file formats
14:26.27Jucatoanna: you're the 3rd person to ask, so I guess that confirms it
14:26.43annaJucato: workaround available? :-)
14:26.55Jucatonot unless you have an svn account :)
14:27.04annafor me to blame is kde.codeyard.cs.ru.nl
14:27.22annado you know any other anonsvn host for KDE?
14:27.30SputI think they're all down
14:27.34SputI tried several
14:27.37annaall is bad
14:27.39Jucatoanonsvn is a round robin (if that's what it's called) of servers
14:27.49annai get the same one over and over.
14:27.50Sputthey're all pingable, but refuse connections to svn
14:28.12annai have packet loss to that one too
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14:33.23avdiHow do I get the KDE4 taskbar widget to only show windows on the CURRENT desktop?
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14:35.21Jucatoright-click -> Task Manager Settings
14:35.47Jucatoin an empty space after the taskbar or in between the window names
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14:38.26avdiJucato: Thanks!  I've been looking all over for that !@*& right-click mene, but I guess I never clicked in juuuust the right place.
14:38.51avdimisses the little widget menu button that used to appear next to widgets in KDE3
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14:57.44ravhello. does anyone know how to move the panel to the vertical edges of the screen on KDE 4.1.2?
14:58.15dereineunlock the widgets
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15:05.20otihanonsvn.kde.org still down ;(
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15:10.21ravthanks
15:11.29ravi installed a cursor theme, but only a few of the cursors were replaced. others remain in the oxygen theme. is there a way around this?
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15:14.17rdieterrav: kde will fallback to oxygen if your selected theme doesn't include needed icons.  are you sure it does?
15:14.22edgyHi, my kmail messages date messed somehow, my 2008 messages shows as 2106, but when I select the message the date is magically changed back to 2008 what do think is wrong please?
15:15.49rdieterrav: hrm... interesting tho, I hadn't experiemented with cursor themes like that, but I believe they're treated essentially the same is icons in this context (could be wrong)
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15:31.09VSpikeWhy does amarok ignore all most of the appearance settings in KDE?
15:32.27JucatoWhat version of Amarok? What version of KDE?
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15:38.51VSpike1.4.10 - reports that it's on KDE 3.5.10 but it's actually 4.1.3
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15:39.13VSpikeJucato: ^
15:39.17JucatoVSpike: then that would explain it
15:39.27JucatoKDE 3 apps do not follow KDE 4 settings
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15:40.42VSpikereally?
15:40.47Jucatoreally
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15:40.56VSpikeSo, how do you change the settings for KDE 3 apps?
15:40.58Kenjirogood afternoon
15:41.04JucatoVSpike: use KControl
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15:41.23VSpikeso, in kde4 you have two separate control panels? wow
15:41.29Kenjiroahahahaha I liked the final message on the topic :P
15:41.51JucatoVSpike: no. in KDE 4 you only have one "control panel": System Settings. KControl is for KDE 3
15:43.07hoontekeI'm not sure if this is a KDE issue or a distro/underlying issue, but I'm curious: has anyone else been experiencing issues with Knetworkmanager?  right now, I have two copies of my nics
15:43.15VSpikeJucato: when the kde4 versions of digikam & amarok et al are ready, that answer will make sense, but until then i cant help but think that it's splitting hairs
15:43.23hoontekee.g. wlan1 wlan1 and eth0 eth0
15:43.50Kenjiroabout KDE 4.1.3, anyone could help with an error on kdebindings compile?
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15:44.08JucatoKenjiro: you can probably ask in #kde-bindings
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15:44.55KenjiroJucato: oh thanks. Yesterday I tried #kdebindings and ended up as OP ahahaha
15:44.57Kenjiro:P
15:45.02JucatoVSpike: it's not "splitting hairs". it's just how it works. KDE 4 uses different settings from KDE 3. Just as KDE settings don't control GNOME apps, so the same with KDE 4 and KDE 3.
15:45.46Jucatothis is specially true if KDE 3 and 4 have different $KDEHOME's paths
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15:46.19charolastra_hi, whats the name of the process that handles gestures?
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15:46.32Jucatostill, for this particular case (appearance), KDE 3 apps don't/can't use KDE 4 styles and color schemes for example.
15:46.49VSpikeJucato: yes, so to use apps written for KDE3 in KDE4 you have to use a different control panel.  And you pretty much have to use KDE3 apps, because the application set is not fully ported.
15:46.52Jucatocharolastra_: khotkeys (broken in KDE 4)
15:47.08JucatoVSpike: very much so
15:47.10VSpikeJucato: Both KDE and GNOME have mechanisms to change the appearance of each others apps
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15:48.38JucatoVSpike: yeah, but notice that you can't just automatically use the KDE 4 theme on a GNOME app even if you set it to use the KDE theme in KControl?
15:48.47charolastra_Jucato: hmm, broken you say? it won't start anymore, but gestures worked till something crashed a few minutes ago
15:48.49Jucatospecially with widget styles
15:48.58Jucatocharolastra_: KDE 3 or 4?
15:49.01charolastra_4
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15:49.19Jucatoyou might have been running the KDE 3 khotkeys
15:49.36hoontekeno devs here have experienced multiple copies of NIC entries as displayed by KNetworkManager?
15:49.49hoontekeA couple of us in #kubuntu have seen it in the last couple of days
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15:53.18hoontekeerr, did root_ just leave when konversation crashed on me?
15:53.39seeleknetworkmanager is running as separate window instead of in the systray widget.  any idea how to get it back in to systray?
15:54.01lqwho is that
15:55.18lqMy konversion crashed, and I just changed my identy from root_ to lq
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15:55.33Jucatohoonteke: yeah left. and it wasn't for you
15:55.53MrRatanyone got an eta on anonsvn.kde.org being available
15:55.56hoontekeJucato: k, thanks.
15:56.11paul424hmm does anywaone know how to disable those windows animation like on_minimize on_rise its really annoying
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15:57.09Jucatoseele: is it the only KDE 3 app with a systray icon that's doing that?
15:57.19lqTo disable kde desktop functions is very easy
15:57.43MrRatpaul424: system-settings desktop
15:58.09seeleJucato: yes.. it just started doing it the other day
15:58.49lqDoes anyone knows how to set the panel to hidden just like kde 3.5?
15:59.02Jucatolq: that feature comes in KDE 4.2 (January)
15:59.11Jucatoseele: usually when I restart the app, it goes back to the system tray
15:59.36seeleJucato: i've restarted the app, restarted kde, and reset the rc file
15:59.45Jucatoouch :/
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16:01.48lqThere is a long time to wait for it.
16:02.11Jucatodunno if openSUSE backported it
16:02.22Jucatobut well, that's life.  :)
16:02.23BilleJucato: yes we did, beineri has been busy
16:02.25lqMy notebook screen height is only 900. Very limit
16:02.34JucatoBille: oooh
16:02.43Billeyou can install the same 4.1 packages on 11.0 or wait for 11.1 in dec
16:03.26Jucatoor wait for 4.2 in Jan, which is 1 month from Dec
16:03.35Jucato(and with the holidays, you'll probably not notice it fly by)
16:03.47lqDoes anyone knows how to set the default language for a new acount?
16:03.49MrRator install svn
16:04.20lqIf I use KDM, the language is always English. I want to change it
16:04.22MrRat4.1.72 has it already
16:05.36JucatoMrRat: considering that's trunk, which will become 4.2, not surprising ;)
16:05.47MrRatJucato: yep
16:05.50Jucatolq: have you changed it in System Settings -> Regional & Language?
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16:07.04lqJucato: I have allready changed that setting. But if you login a new account in English, the default language is allways English
16:07.53lqFor example, if you set that settings, the KDE interface would changed to new language. But other applications won't
16:08.06MrRatlq: do you have system settings/advanced/login manager
16:08.08lqFor example OpenOffice
16:08.15Jucatolq: OpenOffice is not a KDE app
16:08.28Jucatoso it doesn't follow KDE settings
16:08.34MrRatlq: I would think it should use the system locale
16:08.53MrRatis the default system locale set to the desired locale
16:08.58Jucatoif you want all apps to be affected, you'd have to do that at a system level and ask in your distro
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16:09.57lqYes, but if I change KDM to others like GDM(GNOME), it allow me change the default language
16:10.26lqNot only the language for interface
16:10.40Jucatoyou could try <MrRat> lq: do you have system settings/advanced/login manager
16:10.51MrRatlq: and you can build whatever linguas you want into openoffice depending on your distro
16:10.52lqBut also others, such as input method (IM)
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16:14.06lqI have try to change the settings in login manager. But it doesn't work.
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16:15.48lqToday I have found that if I changed GTK_IM_MODULE and QT_IM_MODULE to scim, IM problem could be resolved
16:17.09lqMy distro is Fedora 9. I don't know why they didn't test the IM
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16:41.51praedorWhy is it that konqueror has so many problems with flash but mozilla-firefox, using the SAME plugin, has absolutely none?   Often, I find that the konqueror plugin for flash crashes out on the first attempt to play a youtube vid (for instance) or at this site (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/11/07/lettermans-top-10-sarah-p_n_142082.html) the flash video never ever ever ever loads, but comes right up in firefox?
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16:45.20blurpyhi! does anyone know which license these icons have?: http://websvn.kde.org/branches/KDE/3.5/kdelibs/pics/emoticons/
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16:59.39wardlooockxhello I've upgraded kubuntu to 8.10 and when i boot I get shell login instead of kde login
16:59.45wardlooockxwhen I do startx I get into kde
16:59.52wardlooockxbut there are no panels
17:00.02wardlooockxand the mouse doesn't work
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17:00.19wardlooockxjust empty desktop with desktop folder plasmoid on it
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17:03.19MrRatwardlooockx: sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm and set kdm as default
17:04.00MrRatwardlooockx: or just try sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm
17:04.12wardlooockxyes when I try gdm I get
17:04.17wardlooockxgdm is r
17:04.27wardlooockxgdm is broken or not fully installed
17:04.50wardlooockxand the other I get: kdm is not installed
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17:05.24MrRatwardlooockx: sounds like your installation is incomplete
17:05.30MrRatinstall the rest of kde
17:05.31MrRat:)
17:05.38wardlooockxhow then?
17:05.49MrRatask in your distro channel
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17:07.21MrRatwardlooockx: http://www.kubuntu.org/  see "The latest KDE 4 update 4.1.3 has moved to the backports section of Kubuntu 8.10."
17:08.21wardlooockx?
17:08.26wardlooockxdon't get the message
17:09.31MrRatwardlooockx: it tells you what to do to install it....
17:09.42MrRatother than that ask in your distro channel
17:10.21wardlooockxokay
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17:12.19MrRatone more attempt to help https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE
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17:18.58ichthis is very nice:
17:18.58ichhttp://www.unsere-nackte-pyjamaparty.net/?id=5947352
17:19.09ichwatch it
17:19.31ichit is very much fun
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17:32.22cratylusalright noob question. how do i change my keyboard layout to a different language in kde 4?
17:33.50larsivicratylus: system settings -> Regional settings/languages or something like that (don't know what hte english original is)
17:34.27cratyluslarsivi, wow, can't believe i didn't spot that section
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17:34.31cratylusmuch obliged !
17:35.57cratylusah, much better
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17:36.59weltiohow can i change the horizontal size of my digital clock in my upper controlbar? I'm using kde(mod)4
17:36.59weltiohow can i add a quicklauncher to the controlbar - i can't find a miniprogram to do this in the menu
17:36.59weltiohow can i make that the icons on the desktop won't be covered by my upper controlbar?
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17:44.14orzeli'm using kde 4.1.2 and although i have no konqueror and no firefox running (firefox is my default browser), i can see a lot (~25) of "kfmclient openURL http://......" in top. And they eat 15mb of ressource (ram) each.
17:44.17orzelis that expected ??
17:44.32orzeli guess this comes from 'alt-f2' started stuff, now closed
17:44.59orzelthere are 77 of them, actually
17:45.13orzel(pidof kfmclient | wc -w)
17:46.03wardlooockxdoes somebody knows how to solve he problem that my keyboard/mouse isn't working in KDE4 after upgrading from kubuntu 8.04 to 8.10
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17:46.24wardlooockx--> only in kde and CTR + ALT + F1 works
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17:59.19wardlooockxokay the problem was fixed by dist-upgrade
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17:59.26wardlooockxwasn't installed all I think :s
17:59.47wardlooockxbut now my panels set up is wrong to my previous KDE4configuration
17:59.53wardlooockxcan I restore this ?
18:00.05wardlooockxis it somewhere in home dir .KDE4 or so ?
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18:01.01blip-hi everyone,  one of the main distro's i use is PCLinuxOS and in the KDE3 menu there, when you click and hold restart, you are presented with the grub menu lines so for example i can choose to restart into another OS... but in Kubuntu it's just a plain restart... i have to sit there waiting for grub so i can select the OS manually... is this a KDE3 version thing or an upgrade from PCLinuxOS ?
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18:05.50Billeblip-: i think the patch originated from opensuse
18:06.07axtrozgreetings people, I'm trying to build KDE 4.1.3 from source, but I get an error "CMake Error: Phonon library or includes NOT found!". Googled awhile, reread the docs and the install guides on kde.org but I've found nothing... I found phonon in kdebase-runtime but... can't build it as it depends on kdelibs... Is this a bug in the source or shall I continue to search for some mistake of mine?
18:06.27Billeit has moved upstream in kde 4.
18:06.53rdieterlikes that feature, kudos opensuse
18:06.56Billeaxtroz: take your distro's phonon packages
18:07.20Billesince phonon for 4.1 is frozen, there's v little benefit to building it from soruce
18:07.27Billewhich is in kdesupport, if you must have it ;)
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18:08.09blip-i'll check it out.  thanks Bille
18:08.39picca-anyone here getting connection refused when using svn://anonsvn.kde.org
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18:09.23axtrozBille: thank you :-) I just want to build KDE4 alongside KDE3 and don't want to mess things up, since this is my only OS :)
18:09.33axtrozpicca-: yes a few hours ago got the same
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18:09.56picca-thanks axtroz - not just me then ... will do my updates tomorrow
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18:13.15Billeanonsvn is down, i've pinged the admin
18:13.16Bille(who gets automated mails about it anywa)
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18:14.06blip-any idea why kpowersave correctly sees the 8 steps of brightness on my Dell laptop, but when i use the hotkey it's jumps 2 steps are certain points... thus giving me only 5 brightness settings ?    guidance-power-manager gives me a proper 8-step fn-button support... any idea how to fix kpowersave to give me that ?  I really like the program.
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18:16.30wauckaI can't connect to anonsvn.kde.org (it gets a "connection refused" error).  What's going on?
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18:17.06pwkhi, I just installed kde-4.1 and I am very confused :)
18:17.46pwkhow can add quick start icons for frequently used application into that widget(? is that the right term) at the bottom?
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18:18.20pwki found how to add the button for the k-menu and for some folder viewer etc. but I want to add quick access for konsole?
18:18.20wauckapwk: I think there's a quick start plasmoid at kde-look.org that will let you do that.
18:18.45pwkwaucka, ok so I go to that website, find it and download it?
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18:19.09spectralor preferably install it from your distro repositories
18:19.21pwkspectral, what am I looking for?
18:19.35wauckapwk: What distro are you using?
18:19.37spectralquicklaunch something
18:19.42pwkkubuntu
18:20.08wauckaTry kdeplasma-addons
18:20.16wauckaI'm not sure if it's in there, but it might be.
18:20.28pwkwaucka, it appears I have it already installed
18:20.47wauckaCool
18:20.51wauckaOh wait
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18:20.56wauckaYou mean kdeplasma-addons.
18:20.59spectralthen just drag icons from the start menu (ok ok, application launcher) onto it
18:21.11wauckaOK, then the plasmoid you're looking for is at http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/QuickLauncher+Applet?content=78061
18:21.51pwka plasmoid is the stuff I add via the "add widget" dialog?
18:22.03wauckaYeah
18:22.13martink1977sorry to spam you all, but what happend to anonsvn.kde.org? I get connection refused error while svn up
18:22.28wauckamartink1977: That's what I'm wondering, too.
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18:23.33martink1977websvn works ok...
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18:24.16martink1977I'm going to try some mirrors
18:24.22martink1977if I find one :P
18:24.26wauckaI've noticed that HTTP on anonsvn is still up, so it's not like the whole machine crashed.
18:24.48wauckaMy guess is that somebody misconfigured a firewall.
18:27.06pwkok ho can I place the panel at the right side of the screen instead of the bottom?
18:27.11pwks/ho/so/
18:27.26pwk(in 3.5 i could drag and drop it)
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18:29.27Stalwartpwk: dragndrop
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18:31.05pwkStalwart, is there any special place I should "grab" it?
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18:31.21Stalwartresize bar
18:31.46Stalwarti mean, the thing you grab panel to resize
18:31.57Stalwartit works for me
18:32.19flamiHi, anyone know if Kmail has problems with dovecots managesieve server ? I get a nice error message when i hit the "manage sieve sripts" button.. " The protocol Server identification failed. is not supported. "
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18:36.59pwkStalwart, ok works
18:37.10pwkStalwart, thx
18:39.01rdaleis it possible to add a kate comment to a text file so the text is wrapped at 80 columns?
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18:42.27Billeflami: ask on kdepim-users@kde.org
18:42.35Billei know anne wilson there is an active kmail+dovecot user
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18:43.37Aisonstrange, im using kde4.1 with desktop effects enabled on my p4 2.5ghz and on my amd64 quadcore
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18:44.38jhamlinis it true that in korganizer 3.5.7, event titles cannot be word wrapped in month view?? arg...
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18:46.43pwkhow can I store the window size / geometry of the konsole window so that it always opens with these dimensions?
18:46.47pwkhow with dolphin?
18:48.22GraveDiggerpwk: right click on the window decoration and go for advanced -> special window settings
18:48.32pwkGraveDigger, not special application settings?
18:48.40GraveDiggervice versa
18:48.44GraveDiggerdepends on what you want
18:48.48pwkok
18:49.18pwkGraveDigger, works thanks...now if only this QuickLaunch Plasmoid would work when you have the panel on the right side instead of the bottom :)
18:49.35pwkit looks...terribly broken :). Whom do I contact?
18:49.45GraveDiggeryeah, if only it would work that kde does all my work immediately without any user interaction..
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18:49.50GraveDigger.. well that would be great
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18:53.40thomasa88_svn: Can't connect to host 'anonsvn.kde.org': Connection refused
18:53.41thomasa88_:(
18:54.11SSJ_GZthomasa88_: Yeah, it's down at the moment.
18:54.17martink1977Yep!
18:54.20martink1977it's down
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18:54.59martink1977all the mirrors also are down
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18:55.00thomasa88_SSJ_GZ: martink1977: you know of any place to get the status?
18:55.03thomasa88_ouch
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18:55.21SSJ_GZthomasa88_: Here - the status is "Down" ;)
18:55.34martink1977thiago on #kde-devel told me that's it's down
18:55.37SSJ_GZthomasa88_: The relevant parties have been notified, though.
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18:56.03thomasa88_I thought they somehow wouldve noticed :P
18:56.51marko_din the classic menu ?, how can i switch the default leave option to suspend?
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18:57.20thomasa88_I chose a good time flushing all my old kde svn packages and getting new ones.. :P
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18:57.45wongk_when i run kcontrol from within kde4, nothing appears in the list
18:58.04pinotreethere's no kcontrol in kde4, but systemsettings
18:58.16wongk_pinotree: well, i mean the kde3 version =]
18:58.50pinotreewell, then you should tell us, we don't know your setup
18:59.28wongk_i have to imagine it has to do with my environment, but i don't know what is breaking it (what needs to be set)
18:59.33thomasa88_anyways, is kfmclient exec still the way to launch files from browsers etc? or should I use something else in kde4?
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19:13.36Gentleany news about anonsvn.kde.org?
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19:24.08MrRatGentle: yeah update *its Down*
19:24.12MrRat:)
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19:31.06crsHello. Can i set up desktops switchin by scrolling mouse's scroll?
19:31.39crsOh, kde 4.1.2
19:31.41Billecrs: yes but you need to use a modifier key
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19:31.52Billeor mouse scroll on top of the pager applet
19:32.11crs;/
19:33.02Billewhat kind of face is ';/'? i just tried it and looked deranged.
19:33.35pwkwhere is the "dock" with kde 4.1.2? I start applications that should put an icon in the dock but I don't see it anywhere
19:34.00crsBille: It is a bit sad face :)
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19:34.12crsBut any way, thanks for your help Bille.
19:34.14pwkyeah with a tear in the eye ;)
19:34.23crsyeah :)
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19:35.03Billeoh i thought i was a wink and a twisted mouth
19:35.23pwki don't know if "dock" is the right term...with 3.5 it used to be where the klipper icon is, now I have only the klipper and no other icons
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19:37.03pwkok it seems to have been a problem of the "system tray", restarting that plasmoid fixed the problem (I see more than just klipper)
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19:54.29gkiagiahmm, folderview displays .desktop in desktop files that are links to locations :/
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20:04.17oussopera for fedora 8.....x86_64.bit
20:04.26ouss?opera
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20:04.48oussch_opea
20:04.52ouss>opera
20:04.58larsiviouss: eh - wrong channel?
20:06.41ouss#opera
20:07.03ousshow to join opera channel
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20:17.58oussopera for fedora 8.....x86_64.bit   any ideas  please?
20:18.50pinotreeouss: ask in #opera
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20:28.14Klaus_Dieterhello world
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20:28.40Klaus_DieterI am running kde4.1 and after a re-compile of mesa to include support for my grpahics card kde crashes on startup
20:28.55Klaus_Dieterit does so while loading the 4th icon in the splash
20:29.11Klaus_DieterI have no clue where to look for an error, can someone please assist me?
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20:34.45Klaus_Dieteroit seems that kwin is crashing
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20:36.47Klaus_Dieterafter deleting kwinrc I am able to log in again
20:37.15Klaus_Dieterone thing is weird: When I set OpenGL in the accelerator then it counts down the 10 seconds and I can accept
20:37.20Klaus_Dietereverything seems fine
20:37.39Klaus_Dieterbut if I accept the graphics settings then it crashes again
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20:57.13guysoft42hey all, i am trying to log in to  a window manager, but it does not work. is there a way i can see a log from kdm to see why it crashes?
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21:03.53sprigfor some reason I get a connection refused to anonsvn.kde.org - why?
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21:05.38praedorAnyone here know anything about the tor frontend for KDE Tork?
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21:07.22Klaus_Dieterguysoft42: kdm writes a logfile to /Var/log/kdm.log
21:07.29Klaus_Dieteron my system that is
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21:36.20belredcan someone please help me with this issue?  i just starting using kmail in kde 4.1.3.  an hour ago i had a toolbar that contained a textbox for searching and a dropdown listbox for showing new, unread, etc. messages.  that toolbar is now gone and i have no idea how to bring it back.
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21:39.10belredyou can see an image of the toolbar here: http://davigno.oxygen-icons.org/tag/kmail/
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21:41.26gkiagiabelred: heh, I seem to have lost that toolbar too...
21:41.30gkiagiaI remember it though
21:41.38belredbut i had it 1 hour ago!!!!
21:41.39gkiagiatries to bring it back now
21:42.16belredi've gone through every menu option twice :(
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21:44.08serenis anonsvn.kde.org down?\
21:44.26sereni can ping it but cant check out
21:45.02gkiagiabelred: found it. settings->configure kmail->appearence->message list->show quick search
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21:49.17belredgkiagia: THANKS!!!
21:49.39Chrysaliswhat is the use of the dashboard
21:49.58Chrysalisi dont quite get it other then outlining widgets
21:52.22belredgkiagia: the status is not sticky :(
21:53.06gkiagiayeah I know
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21:53.54belredi wanted to set up my inbox to only show new messages which i assume means from the last few days
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21:54.04St_MPA3bwgat's with SVN? :(
21:55.08St_MPA3bwhat's*
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21:55.57gkiagiabelred: make a feature request
21:56.14gkiagiabelred: I find that useful too actually...
21:57.08VSpikeIf I find that I can use the guidance power manager to control display brightness and dim the display when on battery, but that the power management settings for the display from the System Settings -> Display seem to have no effect, what would be the most likely cause?
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21:57.40dave_hello
21:58.05dave_hello
21:58.43shadycat75anyone who can help
21:58.57shadycat75i need to get 2 another irc channel
21:59.13shadycat75n e 1
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22:00.53shadycat75cheers
22:01.03St_MPA3b<PROTECTED>
22:01.31nanothiefis there a way to add a tag (eg work,personal) to a message through a filter?
22:01.42nanothief(in kmail)
22:02.00nanothief(kde 4.1.2)
22:03.15St_MPA3bsoooo when SVN will be up?
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22:04.27St_MPA3b*cry*
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22:06.56shadycat75thanks 4 the help St_MPA3b
22:07.08St_MPA3bnp ;)
22:07.36wauckaDoes anyone know who is in charge of anonsvn?
22:07.53SSJ_GZwaucka: Known issue; being worked on.
22:07.56wauckacool
22:08.09SSJ_GZwaucka: In fact, one of the servers has just been brought back on line
22:08.16wauckaAwesome!
22:08.21belreddoes anyone have gmail imap working kmail?
22:08.33nanothiefbelred, yes
22:10.07belredi'm getting an error "could not connect to host imap.gmail.com: Uknown error."
22:10.21belredi can ping imap.gmail.com
22:11.04nanothiefif you have all the settings described here: http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=78799 , then it should work
22:12.29belredi followed those steps.  i was just testing imap not smtp, so i didn't set those settings.  i did use ssl port 993 for imap
22:13.29flamiIs there a way to make kmail NOT open the local folder tree at startup ? ( 1.10 kde 4.1 )
22:15.18nanothiefflami: settings -> configure kmail -> misc -> open this folder on startup
22:15.32belredi just set the smtp settings, but it still can't talk to the host.  i even tried the ipaddress directly
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22:15.57nanothiefbelred, have you set the security correctly?
22:16.07nanothief*security settings
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22:17.42belredfor security i have SSL and i tried both clear text and login
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22:18.17flaminanothief: thanks ^^ I was searching for quite a while now
22:18.59nanothief:)
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22:22.36belredi think my company might be blocking imap'ing from gmail
22:22.45St_MPA3bhooray anonsvn works!
22:23.14St_MPA3bbelred: you know that there must be not standart port?
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22:24.48belredgoogle only uses port 993 for imap, right???
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22:27.15St_MPA3bbelred: no! http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=78799
22:28.08St_MPA3bbelred: oh, i'm blind. <ofc yes.
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22:32.06chrisinajarHi there. So i've been fiddling with kde4 and i noticed that at first login it seems to take a really long time to finish the first step. During that time, the CPU is 99% idle... What is it doing at that time, and can it be skipped or somehow optimized?
22:32.48chrisinajarthis is coming from an LTSP conference where we're trying to look at the possibility of kde4, if there are 1000 users logging in at once and it's generating the 5MB folders, who knows how long that will take...
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22:35.57oneforallany idea how I can figure out why https isn't working with konq(file/browser mode) \3.5.9
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22:40.22nanothiefchrisinajar, one thing that caused that for me was having ~/.ICEauthority owned by root, instead of user. (this is caused by starting gui programs with sudo instead of kdesu or similar)
22:40.48nanothiefwait does it ever complete? if so then it isn't that problem
22:40.52chrisinajarnanothief: it happens at first login no matter what, and if you delete the .kde4 file it does it again.
22:40.59chrisinajarand it does complete
22:41.22chrisinajarbackup your .kde4 file and log in, it will take at least 4 or 5 times longer than normal..
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22:42.01nanothiefchrisinajar, well it doesn't happen to me, the login screen disappears after < 10 seconds, even for a new user
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22:46.03chrisinajarnanothief: you're probably on a nice system then.... you should notice a difference though...
22:46.07nanothiefahh sorry, it did take a while (42 seconds when I timed it just now)
22:46.18chrisinajarI have probably 9 or 10 machines here all with this symptom :-P
22:46.27nanothiefhow long does it take you?
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22:49.52isleshocky771All the sudden my alt key stopped working. I tried setkbmap and rebooting the computer.  Any ideas?
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22:51.00SSJ_GZisleshocky771: Is it possible that the key is physically broken? :)
22:53.36isleshocky771SSJ_GZ: I'm testing it with xev and it's showing up perfectly
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22:53.53SSJ_GZisleshocky771: Hmmm.
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22:54.21isleshocky771SSJ_GZ: I've had this problem a bunch of times on a laptop I have at home running Kubuntu 8.04 - kde4.1, and to fix it I just reboot. I've never had it on this desktop (same setup) until just now and a reboot didn't fix it.
22:54.49SSJ_GZisleshocky771: Yeah, I really can't think of anything like that that would survive a reboot :/
22:55.10isleshocky771It's weird because it happened right in the middle of working.
22:56.04isleshocky771going to try rebooting again.
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22:59.35Half-Leftpinotree: Do I have to recompile for a new cmake version update?
22:59.50pinotreeshould not be necessary
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23:00.28Half-Leftoh, I need 2.6.2 and my distros has not updated so I need to manually compile it
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23:08.13kde4:(
23:08.30kde4need bit of help here
23:09.00kde4i build kde but now it looks wird
23:09.07kde4filled with dots
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23:12.36gbinHi, I experience a strange thing on 4.1.72, alt-tab is ignored, anyone is experiencing it ? is it a known bug of the snapshot ?
23:14.08kde4:(
23:15.12Half-LeftAlt, tab works fine here from trunk
23:16.09gbinHalf-Left : thx ... I gonna have to "upgrade" then ;)
23:16.20kde4Half-Left: its me pinheiro
23:16.33Half-Lefthehe
23:16.48kde4a very doted kde 4
23:16.55kde4i can log in
23:17.00kde4it kinda works
23:17.02Half-Leftkde4: Corruption?
23:17.18kde4the screen ist pixilated
23:17.36kde4like wen we were in the 16 color days
23:17.56kde4hever hapened to you
23:17.56Half-LeftUgh
23:18.05kde4aparently not
23:18.09kde4im recompiling
23:18.22Half-Leftweird
23:18.38kde4opengl dosent work 2
23:19.18Half-LeftI wonder how KDE4 can do that
23:19.31Half-LeftMaybe you missed some libs or something
23:19.50kde4maybe :(
23:20.05Half-LeftWhat qt4 version?
23:20.05kde4works sooo fine here
23:20.17kde4qt copie
23:20.20kde4from svn
23:20.37Half-Leftahhh, I dont know, strange
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23:22.23kde4gona strat agian
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23:32.47bluelightningwow, congrats kde/kubuntu team, upgrade to intrepid was smooth and everything seems to be working well
23:33.08bluelightningeven compositing works well, which it didn't before :)
23:33.10bluelightningso shiny
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23:33.41lilltigerYou probly just installed better graphic drivers
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23:52.22wesleyIs the Iphone working okay with kde ?
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23:56.23sinihey guys, I'm trying out kde4 and I've turned on desktop effects and i'm using fglrx for my stuff -- glxgears randomly flickers but works just dandy windows are nicely transparent -- but mplayer (and vlc too) flicker like crazy between transparent and not with the gl/gl2 output methods. :|
23:56.46siniunless i fullscreen it
23:57.59siniif i pause it, mplayer becomes 100% transparent -- and if I have a window over it, the frames popup on top of all other windows :P
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23:58.37lilltigersounds like an bug in the fglrx drivers
23:58.50Jucatohttp://userbase.kde.org/GPU-Performance
23:59.23sinililltiger: doesn't do it with xcompmgr running and under awesomewm :P
23:59.37siniJucato: thanks for the link i'll give it a read

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