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00:12.41 | CoJaBo-Eee | Is it possible to show CPU usage in the taskbar or show an alert if the CPU stays at 100% for a while? |
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00:18.38 | demo_ | How do I detect a new display on kDE 4.1 ? |
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00:22.50 | holycow | hi |
00:23.10 | demo_ | hi holycow |
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00:23.41 | holycow | what application does kde4 use for managing images on a camera? |
00:23.58 | holycow | i installed kamera-kde4 but that seems like an addon component to another app |
00:24.17 | demo_ | holycow: Normally digikam |
00:24.22 | holycow | ohhhh |
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00:39.17 | mfilipe | what is the channel to help me with kde develop? |
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00:40.42 | eegore | has anyone here worked with kde 4.1 with customizing quick launch keystrokes? |
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00:43.01 | developerNewbie | does anyone know a program I can I use to view avaliable dbus connections in kubuntu 8.10 kde4? |
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00:46.15 | jtisme | developerNewbie, qdbus and qdbusviewer |
00:46.32 | developerNewbie | where can I get the packages? |
00:46.56 | jtisme | apt-get install qdbus |
00:47.19 | jtisme | qdbus viewer is in qt4 something let me look |
00:48.25 | developerNewbie | sudo apt-get install qdbus: coudnt find package qdbus |
00:49.13 | jtisme | apt-get install dbus |
00:49.22 | jtisme | for qdbus |
00:49.59 | developerNewbie | ok |
00:50.55 | developerNewbie | then how do I view the xdbus app? |
00:50.59 | developerNewbie | *qdbus |
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00:52.11 | jtisme | dont know about the xdbus app but all dbus apps are seen using qdbus from command line |
00:52.31 | jtisme | i am looking for the pkg of gui pkg qdbusviewer |
00:54.01 | jtisme | apt-get install qt4-dev-tools for gui qdbusviewer |
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00:54.24 | developerNewbie | ok thanks |
00:54.49 | developerNewbie | yes qdbus lists the application how do I get more detail and view the functions/connections? |
00:55.02 | jtisme | qdbusviewer |
00:55.15 | jtisme | or qdbus appname |
00:55.19 | developerNewbie | ok |
00:55.32 | developerNewbie | thanks for yor time |
00:55.33 | developerNewbie | :) |
00:55.38 | jtisme | sure |
00:56.31 | jtisme | anyone know how to 'save multiple desktop konsole sessions' 'save session' does not do it yet and neither does dbus ... |
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01:03.22 | Segaja | hi, what is the console command, to get into the kde 3.5.9 control center? |
01:03.47 | kdepepo | kcontrol |
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01:04.06 | Segaja | hm, it doenst exist under KDE 4.1 anymore |
01:04.30 | kdepepo | You said 3.5.9... |
01:04.49 | Segaja | yes, thats right |
01:05.09 | Segaja | becuase in the kde 4.1 control center the options aren't visible anymore |
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01:05.51 | Segaja | in kcontrol there was a section in the key bindings where you could specify keys for default kde programms |
01:05.59 | Segaja | where did they leave that in kde 4.1? |
01:06.05 | kdepepo | known bug |
01:06.24 | Segaja | that bug is my problem |
01:06.35 | Segaja | some shortcuts from this section have gone mad |
01:06.37 | kdepepo | not only yours :) use 3.5 |
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01:07.06 | Segaja | i use fluxbox, but i can't use andy kde programm |
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01:07.13 | Segaja | because i can't type a and e |
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01:22.19 | eegore | anyone here work with KDE 4.1 |
01:23.15 | Jucato | depends on what you mean by "work with" |
01:24.45 | eegore | I need to know if there is a configuration tool I can use to customize quick launch keystrokes |
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01:28.05 | Jucato | eegore: there is, but it doesn't matter anyway. the system is broken. partly fixed in 4.2 |
01:28.42 | Jucato | at least for those keyboard shortcuts that fall under a) application launchers and b) Input Actions (custom shortcuts) |
01:29.15 | Jucato | there are some that work. the ones you can find in System Settings -> Keyboard & Mouse -> Keyboard Shortcuts |
01:30.20 | CoJaBo-Eee | Is it possible to show CPU usage in the taskbar or show an alert if the CPU stays at 100% for a while? |
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01:30.46 | Snova | How do I change the keyboard layout? |
01:31.50 | Jucato | CoJaBo-Eee: possible? technically yes. but you need a widget/applet (Plasmoid) that does that. there's nothing built-in |
01:31.59 | holycow | Jucato: are you a dev or some sort of uber tester qc type person? |
01:32.06 | Jucato | O.o |
01:32.08 | holycow | lol you know a hell of a lot about kde |
01:32.14 | Jucato | heh :) |
01:32.30 | Jucato | Snova: System Settings -> Regional & Language -> Keyboard Layout |
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01:32.42 | Jucato | holycow: I'm a contributor, yes. though probably not yet much of a dev :) |
01:32.52 | holycow | aha neato |
01:32.56 | Snova | Jucato: It never seems to do anything... I try Alt-T and get nothing. |
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01:33.04 | Jucato | Snova: Alt+T? |
01:33.17 | holycow | its nice to have very knowledgeable people in here |
01:33.18 | Snova | Jucato: Maybe it's just what I'm used to. |
01:33.19 | Jucato | what is Alt+T supposed to do? |
01:33.23 | holycow | kde is quite the beast |
01:33.27 | Snova | Jucato: Insert a thorn. |
01:33.37 | Jucato | ah what? O.o |
01:33.44 | Jucato | is lost |
01:34.01 | Snova | Jucato: Special character that, under Gnome, could be obtained by changing the layout and pressing Right Alt + T |
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01:34.30 | Jucato | ah |
01:34.32 | Snova | Jucato: I think I found it. |
01:34.49 | Snova | Jucato: Ãis is a þorn. |
01:34.54 | Jucato | is totally unfamiliar with keyboards |
01:34.56 | Jucato | oh |
01:35.03 | Jucato | :þ |
01:35.05 | Snova | Jucato: äåéëþüúúÃóö - they work. |
01:35.10 | Jucato | good :) |
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01:35.18 | CoJaBo-Eee | Jucato: I couldn't find out what to install or how to intall it, and the option to install new only lists 3 available. |
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01:36.50 | Jucato | CoJaBo-Eee: try looking in kde-look.org |
01:37.04 | Jucato | but such a widget just might require some amount of compilation |
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01:42.02 | CoJaBo-Eee | Jucato: Is there a way to search for ones that run in the taskbar? |
01:42.17 | eegore | Jucato: what part is broken |
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01:44.14 | Jucato | [09:29] <Jucato> at least for those keyboard shortcuts that fall under a) application launchers and b) Input Actions (custom shortcuts) |
01:44.15 | Jucato | [09:29] <Jucato> there are some that work. the ones you can find in System Settings -> Keyboard & Mouse -> Keyboard Shortcuts |
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01:44.18 | Jucato | eegore: ^^^ |
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01:44.57 | Jucato | CoJaBo-Eee: theoretically, widgets should be able to run on both desktop and panel. that's one of the issues that Plasma tries to solve (vs. KDE 3) |
01:45.18 | Jucato | but in reality, there are some widgets that work better on the desktop or on the panel... |
01:45.21 | Jucato | trial and error |
01:45.29 | CoJaBo-Eee | Jucato: All of the ones that came up when I searched are very large. |
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01:46.58 | Jucato | CoJaBo-Eee: of course widgets can take different forms depending on whether they are put on the desktop or on the panel. like the Device Notifier widget on the panel |
01:47.14 | Jucato | on the panel, it just has an icon that pops up when you click or when a new device is inserted. on the desktop, it presents a list |
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01:48.24 | eegore | Jucato: there is no menu selection for an applicatioon shortcut |
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01:48.43 | Jucato | eegore: there is in the Menu Editor. but like I said, it's not working anyway |
01:48.56 | Jucato | right-click on the K Menu -> Menu Editor |
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01:49.19 | pavon | hi, when KSpread shows #### because there is an error in a formula, how can I get a description of the error? |
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01:50.12 | CoJaBo-Eee | Jucato: Only the desktop version is shown, no indication if taskbar is supported or how it looks.. |
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01:51.42 | eegore | Jucato: I noticed |
01:51.53 | eegore | will an update fix that? |
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01:52.11 | Jucato | [09:28] <Jucato> eegore: there is, but it doesn't matter anyway. the system is broken. partly fixed in 4.2 |
01:52.25 | Jucato | CoJaBo-Eee: [09:45] <Jucato> trial and error |
01:52.47 | Jucato | CoJaBo-Eee: or you could post on the kde-look.org page for that applet and ask if it can be used for the panel |
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02:36.11 | ballzee | how can i set the task bar back to normal i think i messed it all up |
02:36.45 | ballzee | id settle for one that looked like http://www.linux.com/var/uploads/Image/articles/124683.png |
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02:44.36 | nanothief | ballzee, what does it look like atm? |
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02:51.41 | _mary_kate_ | is there a better media player for kde4 than dragon? (it doesn't seem to have any way to adjust a/v sync..) |
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03:05.15 | ballzee | the task manager is not wide and programs run on top of it |
03:05.16 | aseigo | ballzee: you can reset all of plasma by deleting plasma-appletsrc and plasmarc |
03:05.35 | aseigo | _mary_kate_: kaffeine, though their kde4 port is still beta.. |
03:05.44 | aseigo | _mary_kate_: vlc is written using qt4 which is close |
03:05.48 | ballzee | do i have to restart kde ? |
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03:09.02 | aseigo | ballzee: no, just kquitapp plasma; delete those files, start plasma again |
03:12.05 | blauzahl | can i just delete one if i want my taskbar "normal", but don't want to mess with my plasmoids? |
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03:19.48 | ballzee | ok im gona do it now |
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03:26.04 | blauzahl | _mary_kate_: you can go non-kde if you are looking for video and kde4 |
03:26.15 | blauzahl | ballzee: under .kde4/ |
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03:33.04 | mamefan | In KDE3 (kubuntu hardy) krdc would close when I ended an RDP session. Now in KDE 4 (kubuntu intrepid) it stays open. Is there some way I can have it automatically close when the remote session ends? |
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03:41.01 | blauzahl | mamefan: #kubuntu maybe? might be #kubuntu-kde4 |
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04:08.09 | Yanroy_ | hi all |
04:08.28 | Yanroy_ | is there a widget I can get that will use NUT to show me the status of my UPS in the tray by the clock? |
04:08.52 | Yanroy_ | things like charge status, current power draw, notification if the power went out while I was away from my desk, etc |
04:10.34 | Yanroy_ | and if not, how hard is it to make one? I can get all the data I need from running upsc |
04:10.40 | Yanroy_ | I could parse the output, I gues |
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04:38.01 | jtisme | can anyone point me to the kde4 .desktop config language white paper |
04:38.20 | jtisme | i need to know how to write a .desktop startup file |
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06:46.25 | Bearcat | hey folks. I'm using sourcemage (think Gentoo but in bash) and kde 4.1.3. It seems like phonon is blocking other apps (mplayer, mythtv) from getting access to the sound card. Is that normal behavior? |
06:46.54 | Bearcat | i mean i though it was an api, not a soundcard locking server |
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06:49.43 | bonsaikitten | Bearcat: gentoo ebuilds _are_ bash ... |
06:50.14 | Bearcat | bonsaikitten: i thought they were written in perl or something |
06:50.24 | bonsaikitten | no, but portage is python |
06:50.44 | Bearcat | ahh. Sourcemage is pure bash code |
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06:51.02 | bonsaikitten | anyway, your issue sounds like your soundcard only allows one input stream |
06:51.40 | Bearcat | bonsaikitten: hmm it's a ten channel card, but that could be. There is no internal mixer |
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06:53.07 | Bearcat | bonsaikitten: i'm not entirely sure i understand how all this works, so bear with me. If i were in say, gnome i could use a gstreamer app. and then play something with mplayer. perhaps not at the same time, mind y |
06:53.33 | bonsaikitten | ah. what does phonon use for output? |
06:53.39 | Bearcat | you but it seems that if kde4 is up and running *only* kde4 apps can give sound |
06:53.41 | bonsaikitten | (in your config I mean) |
06:53.46 | Bearcat | bonsaikitten: xine engine |
06:53.55 | bonsaikitten | and that uses alsa? |
06:53.59 | Bearcat | yes |
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06:57.31 | Bearcat | <PROTECTED> |
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07:05.02 | Bearcat | Jucato: [AO_ALSA] alsa-lib: pcm_hw.c:1321:(snd_pcm_hw_open) open /dev/snd/pcmC1D0p failed: Device or resource busy |
07:05.02 | Bearcat | [AO_ALSA] Playback open error: Device or resource busy |
07:05.02 | Bearcat | Could not open/initialize audio device -> no sound. |
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07:06.08 | Bearcat | but it works find outside of kde4 |
07:07.17 | Jucato | :( |
07:07.28 | Jucato | sucks that I'm no sound guru :( |
07:07.35 | Bearcat | yes. yes it does. |
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07:07.37 | Bearcat | :"P |
07:09.25 | Jucato | :3 |
07:11.00 | Bearcat | oh...i'm holding the same convo with you in two rooms ...classy. |
07:11.50 | Jucato | :P |
07:12.04 | Jucato | konfused, little kitty? :) |
07:12.55 | Bearcat | quite |
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07:13.04 | Bearcat | little?! |
07:13.09 | Bearcat | anyhow, yeah i am |
07:13.27 | Bearcat | doesn't phonon use nas or something? |
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08:41.20 | internet1 | ubre |
08:42.17 | internet1 | кÑде ÑÑе бÑе |
08:43.22 | internet1 | ама ÑÑе кавали |
08:43.55 | jachin | ??? ??? ?????? |
08:44.27 | internet1 | не Ð·Ð½Ð°ÐµÑ Ð»Ð¸ бÑлгаÑÑки бÑе |
08:44.37 | thiago | English please |
08:44.58 | jachin | I couldn't understand your message in Russian. |
08:45.14 | internet1 | no bulgarian |
08:45.20 | jachin | :) |
08:45.24 | jachin | Thanks. |
08:45.44 | jachin | So, what would you say? |
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08:46.54 | guardian | morning |
08:47.16 | jachin | evening |
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08:47.25 | internet1 | hi |
08:47.42 | blauzahl | #kde-chat please |
08:48.12 | blauzahl | ;) |
08:48.16 | internet1 | how you |
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08:48.47 | blauzahl | internet1: go to #kde-chat and I'll tell you. :D |
08:49.14 | elmargol | http://elmargol.soup.io/post/6713919/Bild http://elmargol.soup.io/post/6714356/Bild any ideas? |
08:49.19 | zeltak | hi |
08:49.35 | zeltak | does any one know the dev status of basket for kde 4? |
08:50.40 | internet1 | noooo |
08:50.44 | internet1 | tumna indiq |
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08:51.50 | internet1 | there fedora maniacs |
08:52.38 | internet1 | еи капÑÑÑÑ
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08:57.14 | internet1 | Now what |
08:58.08 | internet1 | there chicks |
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08:59.34 | chakie_work | hi |
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08:59.49 | chakie_work | is it possible to get a 4.1.2 to remember some settings when you exit? |
09:00.06 | internet1 | http://hanovete.com/?recruit=14173 |
09:00.31 | chakie_work | during the last 60 days i was logged in a cusomized pretty much, for instance i added loads of "profiles" to KOnsole and now they're all gone |
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09:10.03 | chakie_work | so, is it worth trying to set up a nice working environment or will all settings justbe lost the next time i log out? |
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09:27.04 | elmargol | How do I start a kde3 application using a different locale? env LANG="...." does not work |
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09:31.12 | Jucato | elmargol: KDE_LANG="" <appname> |
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09:57.09 | hw | Does anyone know a good replacement for amarok? Its good for local MP3's has problems with streams... =) |
09:58.00 | xdan779 | hw: what kind of streams are you trying to listen to |
09:58.38 | hw | AFAIK it is always MP3 streams... |
09:59.50 | zeltak | does anyone know how to make the laptop go into suspend when i close the lid in kubuntu kde 4.1 (intrepid)? |
10:00.40 | xdan779 | hw: amarok does not have an issue with mp3 streams, is there any other info you can provide ? |
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10:04.35 | hw | xdan779: amarok has 2 problems: 1.) It tells me 5-times that I do not have a correct decoder installed and at the 6th try it plays the stream. 2.) If a stream server is not reachable the whole application hangs. Thats why I look for a replacement and indeed it is not a problem with MP3 itself... =) |
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10:10.00 | summel | oO what happened to kde-apps.org? |
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10:12.52 | xdan779 | hw: that is more info so now we know what amarok is telling you. but beyond that ?? where are the mp3 streams you are listening coming from, do they list any requirements settings |
10:13.37 | xdan779 | how can we know the problem amarok is encountering won;t be encountered by another app |
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10:19.13 | hw | xdan779: Because I listen to same the streams @work and @home. @home I use foobar2000 and it works perfekt. @work I use amarok the problem. And that the whole applications hangs at not reachable streams is definitely a design/programming error of amarok. |
10:19.38 | _RedGhost_ | hw: amarok 2? |
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10:20.05 | hw | _RedGhost_: With kde 3.5.6? Hmm... |
10:20.13 | _RedGhost_ | ah, ok |
10:20.40 | _RedGhost_ | try on #amarok? |
10:21.04 | summel | hw: you can use amarok2 in kde 3 |
10:21.17 | hw | _RedGhost_: Oh, I didn't know that #chan |
10:21.27 | tin | is there a way to get kicker to show up on all my desktops? |
10:21.52 | tin | ie: when i switch to desktop 2 right now, kicker doesn't show up |
10:22.00 | summel | tin: you could make it wider so it goes across both |
10:22.06 | summel | ah virtual desktops |
10:22.07 | tin | it's 100% |
10:22.08 | summel | thats strange |
10:22.17 | tin | yeah, virtual, not multimonitor |
10:22.26 | summel | hmm should work... |
10:22.41 | tin | i think i recall it doing it before, but i haven't tried in a long time |
10:22.46 | tin | like 3.0 time |
10:22.51 | summel | hmm |
10:22.58 | hw | _RedGhost_: Are you using amarok for streams as well? =) |
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10:23.34 | tin | nothing in any docs i've found, and no apparent options in the panel config |
10:24.03 | summel | tin: it _should_ work out of the box |
10:24.12 | _RedGhost_ | hw: I'm using mpd at the moment :) |
10:24.14 | summel | it worked for me on the last kde 3 i used |
10:24.17 | tin | dang |
10:24.28 | summel | 3.5.9 i think |
10:25.05 | hw | _RedGhost_: console or GUI. I'll give it a try... =) |
10:25.07 | tin | how about with plasma? maybe i'll make the upgrade to kubuntu 8.10 |
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10:25.16 | tin | oh, let me boot that VM |
10:25.55 | tin | i installed 8.10 to a VirtualBox to see how i like it before updating the big boy |
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10:27.49 | _RedGhost_ | hw: daemon with a variety of frontends (console and gui) |
10:27.53 | summel | hmm i noticed that kde 4 is kinda unstable in kubuntu :/ |
10:27.58 | summel | but it works fine in arch :) |
10:28.22 | summel | besides of that annoying compositing-bug with the intel drivers :/ |
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10:29.51 | tin | i was thinking maybe actually un-K-ing kubuntu 8.10 and tracking KDE myself |
10:30.04 | xdan779 | summel: you are not alone, if you use kubuntu it may be wise to stick with the 3.5 series or maybe check the kubuntu channel for tips on running kde4 |
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10:30.33 | tin | i like to use package management when it's there, but something big like KDE, or something that update alot but always stays compatible, like Blender, I'll do myself |
10:31.06 | tin | actually, they're discussing kde4 stability in #kubuntu right now |
10:33.22 | summel | xdan779: i dont use it anymore :) |
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10:33.31 | summel | kdemod on arch runs really good |
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10:35.33 | xdan779 | summel: understood I am running kde4 on slamd64 very stable, but no easy packaging need to be compiled |
10:36.12 | summel | xdan779: arch has i686 and x86_64 optimized packages, and a source package management like gentoo ;) |
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10:36.22 | xdan779 | the kde4 packages provided with slackware current are surprisingly very stable as well |
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10:37.27 | tin | ok, i just restarted kicker, and now it's there on other desktops |
10:37.34 | summel | tin: ah :) |
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10:52.10 | WangXJ | DDD |
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10:55.46 | killfill | hi |
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11:11.56 | pinheiro | some one experienced with kdsvn-build here |
11:12.04 | pinheiro | or bulding kde for that matr? |
11:12.07 | pinheiro | mater |
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11:27.41 | Half-Left | pinheiro: me :) |
11:28.23 | Half-Left | pinheiro: whats the problem? |
11:28.59 | pinheiro | CMake Error: The source directory "/home/kde4/kdesvn/build/kdesupport/ -DBUILD_phonon=OFF" does not exist. |
11:29.30 | pinheiro | in kde suport |
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11:29.45 | Half-Left | So your trying to disable Phonon? |
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11:30.56 | pinheiro | duno |
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11:31.52 | Half-Left | pinheiro: Create a build directory in kdesupport and run cmake from there, cmake ../ -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX="mypath" |
11:32.59 | Jucato | not familiar with kdesvn-build,but it seems that it is treating -DBUILD_phonon=OFF as part of the directory name |
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11:34.15 | Half-Left | ahhh different from manual then |
11:34.39 | pinheiro | no idea |
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11:35.38 | Half-Left | Just bring down and build svn manually, we can help more :p |
11:37.04 | annma | kdesvn-build is pretty broken |
11:38.19 | annma | pinheiro: your perception as an artist that a theme sucks isnot the perception of users |
11:38.51 | annma | when you say distro X theme sucks, users do not agree |
11:39.21 | pinheiro | ok |
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11:40.17 | martijn81 | hi, the anonymous svn server is down, is this only for me? |
11:43.00 | Half-Left | annma: Well most of the time designers do it to try and please people, Distro X is done to look as it is because they think it's good for the user, nothing to do with design |
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11:43.47 | annma | pinheiro said distros themes suck, I say they don't for most users |
11:45.52 | annma | martijn81: mine seems down too, Iget 'connection refused' |
11:47.02 | martijn81 | annma: ok :) |
11:47.17 | annma | I use kde svn but I tried anon for you |
11:47.23 | pinheiro | annma: and maybe that is a litle explenation how come we have so few users |
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11:47.37 | pinheiro | but i dont want to discuss that |
11:47.57 | pinheiro | i try to keep my ands off distros and distr wars |
11:48.31 | annma | the problem in plasma are other themes, are they maintained? |
11:48.52 | Half-Left | You always risk alienating users with new designs or ideas |
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11:51.17 | pinheiro | annma: other themes are made by other theme creators |
11:51.24 | annma | yes I know |
11:51.31 | annma | but I wondered if they are maintained |
11:51.34 | pinheiro | so its up to them |
11:51.45 | annma | well as we ship them it's bad for us |
11:51.59 | annma | I'll bring that out before 4.2 if they are not fixed |
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11:54.19 | pinheiro | annma: you on mandriva? |
11:54.52 | pinheiro | i several times ofered my help to mandriva |
11:55.03 | pinheiro | its my distro |
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11:55.18 | pinheiro | the only i would be willing to help |
11:55.40 | thpar | Is there a way yet to make KDE4.1.2 play nice with cups printers? |
11:55.47 | pinheiro | and they give vip membership to the club |
11:56.17 | thpar | non-kde apps show the list of available printers... but KDE apps (Okular, KWrite, ...) just hang... |
11:57.28 | thpar | if I remove the ServerName line from /etc/cups/client.conf they don't hang... but of course they don't show my printers either... |
11:57.51 | pinotree | thpar: ask in #qt |
11:58.25 | thpar | pinotree: it's not KDE related? Ok, I'll try there |
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12:06.24 | killfill | is there a network monitor forkde? |
12:06.37 | killfill | the systemmonitor doesnt do network.. :S |
12:06.54 | Half-Left | wow, Linux Today gives so much reporting to Ubuntu it's unreal |
12:07.13 | Half-Left | KDE dont get much at all(kubuntu) |
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12:12.16 | bonsaikitten | Half-Left: obviously kde must suck ;) |
12:14.01 | Half-Left | bonsaikitten: I feel sorry for Ubuntu users, they are being treated like Windows users, small updates and false promises |
12:14.22 | bonsaikitten | I'm stuck on ubuntu at work. It is sad. |
12:14.32 | bonsaikitten | wants to liberate that computer ... |
12:15.54 | Half-Left | Well it's not like they can't change, I run Ubuntu repos but I have the power to compile my own KDE4.x |
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12:16.34 | bonsaikitten | I lack the diskspace for that, so I'm stuck with an ancient broken kde. |
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12:17.43 | Half-Left | My own custom kernel and trunk build |
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12:20.15 | bonsaikitten | Half-Left: that would be nice to have |
12:23.36 | Half-Left | :) |
12:25.07 | Bille | use something like the opensuse buildservice or ubuntu's PPA to build newer packages for your system then |
12:25.32 | Bille | there's no reason that your local limitations should reduce your fun. |
12:25.39 | Bille | your sysadmin at work might not be so keen on it though ;) |
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12:29.16 | bonsaikitten | Bille: I am a sysadmin, but I need to convince my boss that I need some freedom |
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12:29.41 | Gentle | anything wrong with anonsvn.kde.org ? |
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12:43.35 | thpar | maybe a question that can be answered here (I get no reaction in #qt): is KDE4.1.2 able to see CUPS printers and use them? As now KDE apps hang when I specify a CUPS server... |
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12:46.09 | Jucato | thpar: the reason pinotree told you to ask in #qt is because it is a printing bug whose roots are in Qt |
12:46.33 | Jucato | a.k.a. "we can't do much about it until it's fixed there" |
12:46.58 | thpar | Jucato: fair enough. And is it solvable yet or should I for now just copy paste stuff to eg. OpenOffice ? |
12:47.18 | thpar | cause non-kde seems at least to find the printer list |
12:47.32 | Jucato | well non-KDE *4* to be exact |
12:47.38 | Jucato | dunno if it's solvable/solved yet |
12:47.44 | thpar | Jucato: right. |
12:47.58 | Jucato | (meaning, you can use KDE 3 apps to print too, if you have them) |
12:48.26 | _RedGhost_ | Addmitedly, the state of printing in KDE 4 leaves much to be desired |
12:48.27 | thpar | Jucato: I'm afraid I just wanted to print some pdf's and the only viewer I've left is the very nice Okular |
12:48.34 | thpar | Jucato: except it doesn't print :-) |
12:48.41 | _RedGhost_ | kpdf works |
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12:49.46 | Rasi | hi |
12:49.54 | Rasi | are there any hints on how to speed up konqueror? |
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12:50.06 | Rasi | at least here opera and firefox are MUCH faster |
12:50.17 | Rasi | using latest trunk, btw |
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12:54.13 | Half-Left | They always have been speed wise |
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13:08.21 | iomari | why can't I use the kde4 yakuake on kde 3. It seems to work fine except onceI reftract it I can't get it back unless I call the program again. |
13:08.44 | Sho_ | Some problem with KDE 4 global shortcuts in KDE 3, I guess |
13:09.05 | Sho_ | I used to use Yakuake/4 in KDE 3 just fine, but that was with KDE 4.0 kdelibs, perhaps there have been changes in 4.1 that break it |
13:09.32 | iomari | Sho_: it's kust the F12 key. It works on retract but not on pul down. |
13:09.34 | Sho_ | As a workaround, you could use KDE 3 Input Actions in KControl to set up your own global shortcut and have it run "yakuake" |
13:09.45 | Sho_ | (or qdbus org.kde.yakuake /yakuake/window toggleWindowState) |
13:10.14 | Sho_ | iomari: Check that you have set F12 in the "Global" column of the Configure Shortcuts dialog |
13:10.42 | iomari | Sho_: It's set. that's why it retracts ok. |
13:10.42 | Sho_ | If you set it in Shortcut or Alternate it will be app-local, and thus can only work within Yakuake (as e.g. in the retract case) |
13:11.05 | Sho_ | iomari: It would also retract OK if it was set in Shortcut or Alternate. But only Global would work for pull down. |
13:11.35 | iomari | Sho_: ok I'll check. thanks |
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13:25.37 | MarcoPau | hello, just installed kde 4 and there's a whole bunch of things I can't find any more from kde 3. Is there any page around that explains differences...? |
13:27.02 | thpar | MarcoPau: I don't know about the page, but just poke around... I think it's fairly intuitive... |
13:27.39 | thpar | MarcoPau: and google/ask about the stuff you're really missing... |
13:27.47 | cb400f | yeah.. kdesktop and kicker replaced by plasma, kcontrol replaced by systemsettings.. dolphin new default file manager.. that's the jist of it |
13:27.49 | thpar | I for one miss being able to print :-) |
13:28.59 | thpar | next to the printing issue, I think the main drawback is the performance of my NVidia card... I really hope new drivers will help... |
13:29.50 | thpar | after some tweeking, kwin and plasma seem to do ok now... but everything else is very slow... (screensavers, games, ...) |
13:30.06 | Jucato | http://www.kde.org/announcements/4.0/ and http://www.kde.org/announcements/4.1/ |
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13:37.23 | Barbadillo | hi all, i got problems with system tray's icons |
13:37.37 | Barbadillo | they don't look correctly |
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13:38.42 | Barbadillo | http://www.freeimagehosting.net/image.php?4d4eeb7d19.png |
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13:41.24 | boom1992 | Barbadillo: known fixed in 4.2 |
13:41.40 | Barbadillo | really? |
13:41.55 | Barbadillo | boom1992: how can i install 4.2? |
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13:42.15 | Barbadillo | i'm on kubuntu 8.10 |
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13:42.38 | boom1992 | Barbadillo: it's alpha still |
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13:42.41 | boom1992 | so wait better ;) |
13:42.46 | Barbadillo | ah ok |
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13:43.23 | Tegelane | hi, is anonsvn down? |
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13:44.25 | bb__ | Hi - Kontact crashes when I switch to the Task-Tab. See: http://paste.ubuntu.com/68838/ - where can I get help? I use KUbuntu 8.10, KDE4 |
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13:45.12 | boom1992 | bb__: #kubuntu-kde4 probaly ;) |
13:45.19 | boom1992 | Tegelane: perobalby yeah :P |
13:45.21 | boom1992 | probably |
13:45.36 | boom1992 | bb__: or report a bug ;) |
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13:48.39 | Tegelane | darn, win32 build is broken in my checkout and now i can't update :( |
13:49.07 | bb__ | boom1992: ok, so nothing I can do on my machine? |
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13:49.48 | boom1992 | bb__: ya :P |
13:49.53 | bb__ | boom1992: where should I file the bug? |
13:49.59 | boom1992 | bb__: bugs.kde.org |
13:50.01 | boom1992 | ;) |
13:50.02 | pinotree | https://bugs.kde.org |
13:50.08 | bb__ | thx |
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13:51.19 | otih | hi, is anybody working in fixing down anonsvn.kde.org ??? |
13:51.20 | dantti | Hi, I don't have openoffice installed and i'm in a HURRY |
13:51.39 | dantti | can someone please say how in koffice2 can i rotate the page? |
13:51.45 | dantti | like porttrait i think. |
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13:56.53 | MarcoPau | cb400f: well, the menu is way different, can't even find kcontrol and storage devices, desktop lost all the files, thou I still have them in ~/Desktop/, kvirc doesn't work with transparency (maybe its own issue), can't move the desktop buttons in the bar, some keyboard shotcuts don't work any more, don't have the "quick launch" icons in the bar any more etc... |
13:57.01 | mitsarionas | hi... i recently got an unknown error on some plasmoids... ideas anyone? |
13:57.03 | MarcoPau | cb400f: anyway nice motorbike :-) |
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13:57.12 | MarcoPau | cb400f: I ride a Morini 3 1/2 Sport |
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14:00.27 | thpar | MarcoPau: desktop lost all files: the desktop indeed doesn't show file icons anymore. It will if you add the folder view plasmoid to the desktop and set it to 'desktop' |
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14:01.39 | zaishaza | hi, i'm new to kubuntu after recently switching from ubuntu. i'm having trouble moving stuff around in the panel at the bottom of the screen. i right click it, select panel settings and start moving stuff, but it keeps springing back to weird positions. any idea what i need to do? |
14:01.51 | zaishaza | it's kde 4.1 i think. |
14:01.52 | thpar | MarcoPau: move buttons in the bar: click the round button at the right of the panel... it will enable you to drag around icons |
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14:02.30 | thpar | MarcoPau: add quick launch icons: in the new style menu: right click a program -> add to desktop or add to panel |
14:02.52 | stoned | good morning |
14:03.02 | thpar | MarcoPau: kcontrol has been replaced I believe... start menu -> computer -> system settings |
14:03.41 | thpar | MarcoPau: keyboard shortcuts: set them back (system settings, keyboard) |
14:03.52 | zaishaza | this is frustrating. every time i drag an icon it springs back to where it was. horrible stuff. |
14:04.02 | stoned | lol |
14:04.30 | MarcoPau | thpar: and what about that black window that I have in each desktop? |
14:05.20 | thpar | MarcoPau: storage devices: don't they show up in start menu -> computer? And usb sticks and cd's show in dolphin and in a plasmoid 'recent devices' |
14:05.22 | MarcoPau | thpar: I quit it but don't actually get what that was for |
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14:05.40 | zaishaza | god, this is shit. |
14:05.50 | thpar | MarcoPau: just trying to help since I'm kinda stuck on my own problems here :-) |
14:06.01 | thpar | MarcoPau: no idea what black window you are referring to |
14:06.11 | MarcoPau | thpar: I'll get back later and try to figure out a few things thanks to your hints... |
14:06.43 | MarcoPau | thpar: heh, it's kinda weird switching... will have to get used to more than a few things I suppose |
14:06.43 | thpar | MarcoPau: you're welcome... I got rid of my missing KDE3.5 frustrations after about two days :-) |
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14:07.23 | MarcoPau | thanks for now anyway, I'll bug you later in case ;-D |
14:07.34 | MarcoPau | ciao |
14:07.47 | thpar | MarcoPau: succes |
14:08.12 | MarcoPau | :) |
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14:11.40 | Rasi | MarcoPau: that black window is probably nothing but a plasmoid |
14:11.49 | Rasi | you can make it disappear by righclicking it -> close |
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14:13.50 | thpar | looks forward to Fedora 10, hoping it will have KDE4.2 with a whole bunch of little annoyances fixed... |
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14:16.45 | wongk | what config file are the theme colors stored in in kde 3? |
14:17.47 | Jucato | ~/.kde/share/apps/kdisplay/color-schemes |
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14:19.34 | wongk | Jucato: i don't have a kdisplay dir... but i think that may be something different, i meant the config for the current kde color scheme |
14:20.27 | Jucato | ah |
14:21.07 | Jucato | ~/.kde/share/config/kdeglobals colorScheme= |
14:21.35 | codestr0m | general question.. would guys say the available kde gui tools for managing packages are better for rpm, deb or another format? |
14:21.44 | codestr0m | kde4* |
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14:21.46 | wongk | Jucato: thx! |
14:22.33 | otih | hi, is anybody working on a fix for the down anonsvn.kde.org ??? |
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14:23.28 | wongk | i don't suppose i could use a kde4 color scheme in kde3 and expecit to work at all? |
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14:23.50 | praedor | I'm running Mandriva 2009.0, KDE 4.1.2 and am having an icon issue. |
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14:25.04 | anna | hi there, anonsvn.kde.org hates me, doesn't allow svn connection, anybody can confirm or deny? |
14:25.27 | praedor | I just installed the Futuresoft theme and hit "apply". Konqueror adopted the new theme but not kmail and dolphin only PARTIALLY adopted it - only a few folder icons switched to the new icon theme for folders. Why is this? Is there some way to force dolphin to adopt the new icons en masse rather than forcing me to manually change each and every icon? |
14:26.11 | Jucato | wongk: nope. two different file formats |
14:26.27 | Jucato | anna: you're the 3rd person to ask, so I guess that confirms it |
14:26.43 | anna | Jucato: workaround available? :-) |
14:26.55 | Jucato | not unless you have an svn account :) |
14:27.04 | anna | for me to blame is kde.codeyard.cs.ru.nl |
14:27.22 | anna | do you know any other anonsvn host for KDE? |
14:27.30 | Sput | I think they're all down |
14:27.34 | Sput | I tried several |
14:27.37 | anna | all is bad |
14:27.39 | Jucato | anonsvn is a round robin (if that's what it's called) of servers |
14:27.49 | anna | i get the same one over and over. |
14:27.50 | Sput | they're all pingable, but refuse connections to svn |
14:28.12 | anna | i have packet loss to that one too |
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14:33.23 | avdi | How do I get the KDE4 taskbar widget to only show windows on the CURRENT desktop? |
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14:35.21 | Jucato | right-click -> Task Manager Settings |
14:35.47 | Jucato | in an empty space after the taskbar or in between the window names |
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14:36.10 | gr1m-lap | is it possible to convince kate to load remote documents one at a time instead of all at once? e.g. if I close a session with 30 sftp documents open then restore the session I pretty much get an instant 30 minute firewall block because kate tries to open them all simultaneously |
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14:38.26 | avdi | Jucato: Thanks! I've been looking all over for that !@*& right-click mene, but I guess I never clicked in juuuust the right place. |
14:38.51 | avdi | misses the little widget menu button that used to appear next to widgets in KDE3 |
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14:57.44 | rav | hello. does anyone know how to move the panel to the vertical edges of the screen on KDE 4.1.2? |
14:58.15 | dereine | unlock the widgets |
14:58.19 | dereine | rightclick on the panel |
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14:58.28 | dereine | panel settings |
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14:59.00 | dereine | than klickon screenedge and drop to the side |
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15:05.20 | otih | anonsvn.kde.org still down ;( |
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15:10.21 | rav | thanks |
15:11.29 | rav | i installed a cursor theme, but only a few of the cursors were replaced. others remain in the oxygen theme. is there a way around this? |
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15:14.17 | rdieter | rav: kde will fallback to oxygen if your selected theme doesn't include needed icons. are you sure it does? |
15:14.22 | edgy | Hi, my kmail messages date messed somehow, my 2008 messages shows as 2106, but when I select the message the date is magically changed back to 2008 what do think is wrong please? |
15:15.49 | rdieter | rav: hrm... interesting tho, I hadn't experiemented with cursor themes like that, but I believe they're treated essentially the same is icons in this context (could be wrong) |
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15:31.09 | VSpike | Why does amarok ignore all most of the appearance settings in KDE? |
15:32.27 | Jucato | What version of Amarok? What version of KDE? |
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15:38.51 | VSpike | 1.4.10 - reports that it's on KDE 3.5.10 but it's actually 4.1.3 |
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15:39.13 | VSpike | Jucato: ^ |
15:39.17 | Jucato | VSpike: then that would explain it |
15:39.27 | Jucato | KDE 3 apps do not follow KDE 4 settings |
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15:40.42 | VSpike | really? |
15:40.47 | Jucato | really |
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15:40.56 | VSpike | So, how do you change the settings for KDE 3 apps? |
15:40.58 | Kenjiro | good afternoon |
15:41.04 | Jucato | VSpike: use KControl |
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15:41.23 | VSpike | so, in kde4 you have two separate control panels? wow |
15:41.29 | Kenjiro | ahahahaha I liked the final message on the topic :P |
15:41.51 | Jucato | VSpike: no. in KDE 4 you only have one "control panel": System Settings. KControl is for KDE 3 |
15:43.07 | hoonteke | I'm not sure if this is a KDE issue or a distro/underlying issue, but I'm curious: has anyone else been experiencing issues with Knetworkmanager? right now, I have two copies of my nics |
15:43.15 | VSpike | Jucato: when the kde4 versions of digikam & amarok et al are ready, that answer will make sense, but until then i cant help but think that it's splitting hairs |
15:43.23 | hoonteke | e.g. wlan1 wlan1 and eth0 eth0 |
15:43.50 | Kenjiro | about KDE 4.1.3, anyone could help with an error on kdebindings compile? |
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15:44.08 | Jucato | Kenjiro: you can probably ask in #kde-bindings |
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15:44.55 | Kenjiro | Jucato: oh thanks. Yesterday I tried #kdebindings and ended up as OP ahahaha |
15:44.57 | Kenjiro | :P |
15:45.02 | Jucato | VSpike: it's not "splitting hairs". it's just how it works. KDE 4 uses different settings from KDE 3. Just as KDE settings don't control GNOME apps, so the same with KDE 4 and KDE 3. |
15:45.46 | Jucato | this is specially true if KDE 3 and 4 have different $KDEHOME's paths |
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15:46.19 | charolastra_ | hi, whats the name of the process that handles gestures? |
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15:46.32 | Jucato | still, for this particular case (appearance), KDE 3 apps don't/can't use KDE 4 styles and color schemes for example. |
15:46.49 | VSpike | Jucato: yes, so to use apps written for KDE3 in KDE4 you have to use a different control panel. And you pretty much have to use KDE3 apps, because the application set is not fully ported. |
15:46.52 | Jucato | charolastra_: khotkeys (broken in KDE 4) |
15:47.08 | Jucato | VSpike: very much so |
15:47.10 | VSpike | Jucato: Both KDE and GNOME have mechanisms to change the appearance of each others apps |
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15:48.38 | Jucato | VSpike: yeah, but notice that you can't just automatically use the KDE 4 theme on a GNOME app even if you set it to use the KDE theme in KControl? |
15:48.47 | charolastra_ | Jucato: hmm, broken you say? it won't start anymore, but gestures worked till something crashed a few minutes ago |
15:48.49 | Jucato | specially with widget styles |
15:48.58 | Jucato | charolastra_: KDE 3 or 4? |
15:49.01 | charolastra_ | 4 |
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15:49.19 | Jucato | you might have been running the KDE 3 khotkeys |
15:49.36 | hoonteke | no devs here have experienced multiple copies of NIC entries as displayed by KNetworkManager? |
15:49.49 | hoonteke | A couple of us in #kubuntu have seen it in the last couple of days |
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15:53.18 | hoonteke | err, did root_ just leave when konversation crashed on me? |
15:53.39 | seele | knetworkmanager is running as separate window instead of in the systray widget. any idea how to get it back in to systray? |
15:54.01 | lq | who is that |
15:55.18 | lq | My konversion crashed, and I just changed my identy from root_ to lq |
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15:55.33 | Jucato | hoonteke: yeah left. and it wasn't for you |
15:55.53 | MrRat | anyone got an eta on anonsvn.kde.org being available |
15:55.56 | hoonteke | Jucato: k, thanks. |
15:56.11 | paul424 | hmm does anywaone know how to disable those windows animation like on_minimize on_rise its really annoying |
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15:57.09 | Jucato | seele: is it the only KDE 3 app with a systray icon that's doing that? |
15:57.19 | lq | To disable kde desktop functions is very easy |
15:57.43 | MrRat | paul424: system-settings desktop |
15:58.09 | seele | Jucato: yes.. it just started doing it the other day |
15:58.49 | lq | Does anyone knows how to set the panel to hidden just like kde 3.5? |
15:59.02 | Jucato | lq: that feature comes in KDE 4.2 (January) |
15:59.11 | Jucato | seele: usually when I restart the app, it goes back to the system tray |
15:59.36 | seele | Jucato: i've restarted the app, restarted kde, and reset the rc file |
15:59.45 | Jucato | ouch :/ |
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16:01.48 | lq | There is a long time to wait for it. |
16:02.11 | Jucato | dunno if openSUSE backported it |
16:02.22 | Jucato | but well, that's life. :) |
16:02.23 | Bille | Jucato: yes we did, beineri has been busy |
16:02.25 | lq | My notebook screen height is only 900. Very limit |
16:02.34 | Jucato | Bille: oooh |
16:02.43 | Bille | you can install the same 4.1 packages on 11.0 or wait for 11.1 in dec |
16:03.26 | Jucato | or wait for 4.2 in Jan, which is 1 month from Dec |
16:03.35 | Jucato | (and with the holidays, you'll probably not notice it fly by) |
16:03.47 | lq | Does anyone knows how to set the default language for a new acount? |
16:03.49 | MrRat | or install svn |
16:04.20 | lq | If I use KDM, the language is always English. I want to change it |
16:04.22 | MrRat | 4.1.72 has it already |
16:05.36 | Jucato | MrRat: considering that's trunk, which will become 4.2, not surprising ;) |
16:05.47 | MrRat | Jucato: yep |
16:05.50 | Jucato | lq: have you changed it in System Settings -> Regional & Language? |
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16:07.04 | lq | Jucato: I have allready changed that setting. But if you login a new account in English, the default language is allways English |
16:07.53 | lq | For example, if you set that settings, the KDE interface would changed to new language. But other applications won't |
16:08.06 | MrRat | lq: do you have system settings/advanced/login manager |
16:08.08 | lq | For example OpenOffice |
16:08.15 | Jucato | lq: OpenOffice is not a KDE app |
16:08.28 | Jucato | so it doesn't follow KDE settings |
16:08.34 | MrRat | lq: I would think it should use the system locale |
16:08.53 | MrRat | is the default system locale set to the desired locale |
16:08.58 | Jucato | if you want all apps to be affected, you'd have to do that at a system level and ask in your distro |
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16:09.57 | lq | Yes, but if I change KDM to others like GDM(GNOME), it allow me change the default language |
16:10.26 | lq | Not only the language for interface |
16:10.40 | Jucato | you could try <MrRat> lq: do you have system settings/advanced/login manager |
16:10.51 | MrRat | lq: and you can build whatever linguas you want into openoffice depending on your distro |
16:10.52 | lq | But also others, such as input method (IM) |
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16:14.06 | lq | I have try to change the settings in login manager. But it doesn't work. |
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16:15.48 | lq | Today I have found that if I changed GTK_IM_MODULE and QT_IM_MODULE to scim, IM problem could be resolved |
16:17.09 | lq | My distro is Fedora 9. I don't know why they didn't test the IM |
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16:59.39 | wardlooockx | hello I've upgraded kubuntu to 8.10 and when i boot I get shell login instead of kde login |
16:59.45 | wardlooockx | when I do startx I get into kde |
16:59.52 | wardlooockx | but there are no panels |
17:00.02 | wardlooockx | and the mouse doesn't work |
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17:00.19 | wardlooockx | just empty desktop with desktop folder plasmoid on it |
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17:03.19 | MrRat | wardlooockx: sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm and set kdm as default |
17:04.00 | MrRat | wardlooockx: or just try sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm |
17:04.12 | wardlooockx | yes when I try gdm I get |
17:04.17 | wardlooockx | gdm is r |
17:04.27 | wardlooockx | gdm is broken or not fully installed |
17:04.50 | wardlooockx | and the other I get: kdm is not installed |
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17:05.24 | MrRat | wardlooockx: sounds like your installation is incomplete |
17:05.30 | MrRat | install the rest of kde |
17:05.31 | MrRat | :) |
17:05.38 | wardlooockx | how then? |
17:05.49 | MrRat | ask in your distro channel |
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17:07.21 | MrRat | wardlooockx: http://www.kubuntu.org/ see "The latest KDE 4 update 4.1.3 has moved to the backports section of Kubuntu 8.10." |
17:08.21 | wardlooockx | ? |
17:08.26 | wardlooockx | don't get the message |
17:09.31 | MrRat | wardlooockx: it tells you what to do to install it.... |
17:09.42 | MrRat | other than that ask in your distro channel |
17:10.21 | wardlooockx | okay |
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17:12.19 | MrRat | one more attempt to help https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE |
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17:18.58 | ich | this is very nice: |
17:18.58 | ich | http://www.unsere-nackte-pyjamaparty.net/?id=5947352 |
17:19.09 | ich | watch it |
17:19.31 | ich | it is very much fun |
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17:23.58 | larsivi | hola |
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17:24.15 | larsivi | kde 4.1.3 is not an option on bugs.kde.org |
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17:32.22 | cratylus | alright noob question. how do i change my keyboard layout to a different language in kde 4? |
17:33.50 | larsivi | cratylus: system settings -> Regional settings/languages or something like that (don't know what hte english original is) |
17:34.27 | cratylus | larsivi, wow, can't believe i didn't spot that section |
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17:34.31 | cratylus | much obliged ! |
17:35.57 | cratylus | ah, much better |
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17:36.59 | weltio | how can i change the horizontal size of my digital clock in my upper controlbar? I'm using kde(mod)4 |
17:36.59 | weltio | how can i add a quicklauncher to the controlbar - i can't find a miniprogram to do this in the menu |
17:36.59 | weltio | how can i make that the icons on the desktop won't be covered by my upper controlbar? |
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17:44.14 | orzel | i'm using kde 4.1.2 and although i have no konqueror and no firefox running (firefox is my default browser), i can see a lot (~25) of "kfmclient openURL http://......" in top. And they eat 15mb of ressource (ram) each. |
17:44.17 | orzel | is that expected ?? |
17:44.32 | orzel | i guess this comes from 'alt-f2' started stuff, now closed |
17:44.59 | orzel | there are 77 of them, actually |
17:45.13 | orzel | (pidof kfmclient | wc -w) |
17:46.03 | wardlooockx | does somebody knows how to solve he problem that my keyboard/mouse isn't working in KDE4 after upgrading from kubuntu 8.04 to 8.10 |
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17:46.24 | wardlooockx | --> only in kde and CTR + ALT + F1 works |
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17:59.19 | wardlooockx | okay the problem was fixed by dist-upgrade |
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17:59.26 | wardlooockx | wasn't installed all I think :s |
17:59.47 | wardlooockx | but now my panels set up is wrong to my previous KDE4configuration |
17:59.53 | wardlooockx | can I restore this ? |
18:00.05 | wardlooockx | is it somewhere in home dir .KDE4 or so ? |
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18:01.01 | blip- | hi everyone, one of the main distro's i use is PCLinuxOS and in the KDE3 menu there, when you click and hold restart, you are presented with the grub menu lines so for example i can choose to restart into another OS... but in Kubuntu it's just a plain restart... i have to sit there waiting for grub so i can select the OS manually... is this a KDE3 version thing or an upgrade from PCLinuxOS ? |
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18:05.50 | Bille | blip-: i think the patch originated from opensuse |
18:06.07 | axtroz | greetings people, I'm trying to build KDE 4.1.3 from source, but I get an error "CMake Error: Phonon library or includes NOT found!". Googled awhile, reread the docs and the install guides on kde.org but I've found nothing... I found phonon in kdebase-runtime but... can't build it as it depends on kdelibs... Is this a bug in the source or shall I continue to search for some mistake of mine? |
18:06.27 | Bille | it has moved upstream in kde 4. |
18:06.53 | rdieter | likes that feature, kudos opensuse |
18:06.56 | Bille | axtroz: take your distro's phonon packages |
18:07.20 | Bille | since phonon for 4.1 is frozen, there's v little benefit to building it from soruce |
18:07.27 | Bille | which is in kdesupport, if you must have it ;) |
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18:08.09 | blip- | i'll check it out. thanks Bille |
18:08.39 | picca- | anyone here getting connection refused when using svn://anonsvn.kde.org |
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18:09.23 | axtroz | Bille: thank you :-) I just want to build KDE4 alongside KDE3 and don't want to mess things up, since this is my only OS :) |
18:09.33 | axtroz | picca-: yes a few hours ago got the same |
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18:09.56 | picca- | thanks axtroz - not just me then ... will do my updates tomorrow |
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18:13.15 | Bille | anonsvn is down, i've pinged the admin |
18:13.16 | Bille | (who gets automated mails about it anywa) |
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18:14.06 | blip- | any idea why kpowersave correctly sees the 8 steps of brightness on my Dell laptop, but when i use the hotkey it's jumps 2 steps are certain points... thus giving me only 5 brightness settings ? guidance-power-manager gives me a proper 8-step fn-button support... any idea how to fix kpowersave to give me that ? I really like the program. |
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18:16.30 | waucka | I can't connect to anonsvn.kde.org (it gets a "connection refused" error). What's going on? |
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18:17.06 | pwk | hi, I just installed kde-4.1 and I am very confused :) |
18:17.46 | pwk | how can add quick start icons for frequently used application into that widget(? is that the right term) at the bottom? |
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18:18.20 | pwk | i found how to add the button for the k-menu and for some folder viewer etc. but I want to add quick access for konsole? |
18:18.20 | waucka | pwk: I think there's a quick start plasmoid at kde-look.org that will let you do that. |
18:18.45 | pwk | waucka, ok so I go to that website, find it and download it? |
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18:19.09 | spectral | or preferably install it from your distro repositories |
18:19.21 | pwk | spectral, what am I looking for? |
18:19.35 | waucka | pwk: What distro are you using? |
18:19.37 | spectral | quicklaunch something |
18:19.42 | pwk | kubuntu |
18:20.08 | waucka | Try kdeplasma-addons |
18:20.16 | waucka | I'm not sure if it's in there, but it might be. |
18:20.28 | pwk | waucka, it appears I have it already installed |
18:20.47 | waucka | Cool |
18:20.51 | waucka | Oh wait |
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18:20.56 | waucka | You mean kdeplasma-addons. |
18:20.59 | spectral | then just drag icons from the start menu (ok ok, application launcher) onto it |
18:21.11 | waucka | OK, then the plasmoid you're looking for is at http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/QuickLauncher+Applet?content=78061 |
18:21.51 | pwk | a plasmoid is the stuff I add via the "add widget" dialog? |
18:22.03 | waucka | Yeah |
18:22.13 | martink1977 | sorry to spam you all, but what happend to anonsvn.kde.org? I get connection refused error while svn up |
18:22.28 | waucka | martink1977: That's what I'm wondering, too. |
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18:23.33 | martink1977 | websvn works ok... |
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18:24.16 | martink1977 | I'm going to try some mirrors |
18:24.22 | martink1977 | if I find one :P |
18:24.26 | waucka | I've noticed that HTTP on anonsvn is still up, so it's not like the whole machine crashed. |
18:24.48 | waucka | My guess is that somebody misconfigured a firewall. |
18:27.06 | pwk | ok ho can I place the panel at the right side of the screen instead of the bottom? |
18:27.11 | pwk | s/ho/so/ |
18:27.26 | pwk | (in 3.5 i could drag and drop it) |
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18:29.27 | Stalwart | pwk: dragndrop |
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18:31.05 | pwk | Stalwart, is there any special place I should "grab" it? |
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18:31.21 | Stalwart | resize bar |
18:31.46 | Stalwart | i mean, the thing you grab panel to resize |
18:31.57 | Stalwart | it works for me |
18:32.19 | flami | Hi, anyone know if Kmail has problems with dovecots managesieve server ? I get a nice error message when i hit the "manage sieve sripts" button.. " The protocol Server identification failed. is not supported. " |
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18:36.59 | pwk | Stalwart, ok works |
18:37.10 | pwk | Stalwart, thx |
18:39.01 | rdale | is it possible to add a kate comment to a text file so the text is wrapped at 80 columns? |
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18:42.27 | Bille | flami: ask on kdepim-users@kde.org |
18:42.35 | Bille | i know anne wilson there is an active kmail+dovecot user |
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18:43.37 | Aison | strange, im using kde4.1 with desktop effects enabled on my p4 2.5ghz and on my amd64 quadcore |
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18:43.58 | Aison | fells like some concurrent programming problems, eg. starvations or something like that |
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18:44.38 | jhamlin | is it true that in korganizer 3.5.7, event titles cannot be word wrapped in month view?? arg... |
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18:46.43 | pwk | how can I store the window size / geometry of the konsole window so that it always opens with these dimensions? |
18:46.47 | pwk | how with dolphin? |
18:48.22 | GraveDigger | pwk: right click on the window decoration and go for advanced -> special window settings |
18:48.32 | pwk | GraveDigger, not special application settings? |
18:48.40 | GraveDigger | vice versa |
18:48.44 | GraveDigger | depends on what you want |
18:48.48 | pwk | ok |
18:49.18 | pwk | GraveDigger, works thanks...now if only this QuickLaunch Plasmoid would work when you have the panel on the right side instead of the bottom :) |
18:49.35 | pwk | it looks...terribly broken :). Whom do I contact? |
18:49.45 | GraveDigger | yeah, if only it would work that kde does all my work immediately without any user interaction.. |
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18:49.50 | GraveDigger | .. well that would be great |
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18:53.40 | thomasa88_ | <PROTECTED> |
18:53.40 | thomasa88_ | <PROTECTED> |
18:53.40 | thomasa88_ | svn: Can't connect to host 'anonsvn.kde.org': Connection refused |
18:53.41 | thomasa88_ | :( |
18:54.11 | SSJ_GZ | thomasa88_: Yeah, it's down at the moment. |
18:54.17 | martink1977 | Yep! |
18:54.20 | martink1977 | it's down |
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18:54.59 | martink1977 | all the mirrors also are down |
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18:55.00 | thomasa88_ | SSJ_GZ: martink1977: you know of any place to get the status? |
18:55.03 | thomasa88_ | ouch |
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18:55.21 | SSJ_GZ | thomasa88_: Here - the status is "Down" ;) |
18:55.34 | martink1977 | thiago on #kde-devel told me that's it's down |
18:55.37 | SSJ_GZ | thomasa88_: The relevant parties have been notified, though. |
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18:56.03 | thomasa88_ | I thought they somehow wouldve noticed :P |
18:56.51 | marko_d | in the classic menu ?, how can i switch the default leave option to suspend? |
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18:57.20 | thomasa88_ | I chose a good time flushing all my old kde svn packages and getting new ones.. :P |
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18:57.45 | wongk_ | when i run kcontrol from within kde4, nothing appears in the list |
18:58.04 | pinotree | there's no kcontrol in kde4, but systemsettings |
18:58.16 | wongk_ | pinotree: well, i mean the kde3 version =] |
18:58.50 | pinotree | well, then you should tell us, we don't know your setup |
18:59.28 | wongk_ | i have to imagine it has to do with my environment, but i don't know what is breaking it (what needs to be set) |
18:59.33 | thomasa88_ | anyways, is kfmclient exec still the way to launch files from browsers etc? or should I use something else in kde4? |
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19:13.36 | Gentle | any news about anonsvn.kde.org? |
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19:24.08 | MrRat | Gentle: yeah update *its Down* |
19:24.12 | MrRat | :) |
19:24.24 | MrRat | waves |
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19:31.06 | crs | Hello. Can i set up desktops switchin by scrolling mouse's scroll? |
19:31.39 | crs | Oh, kde 4.1.2 |
19:31.41 | Bille | crs: yes but you need to use a modifier key |
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19:31.52 | Bille | or mouse scroll on top of the pager applet |
19:32.11 | crs | ;/ |
19:33.02 | Bille | what kind of face is ';/'? i just tried it and looked deranged. |
19:33.35 | pwk | where is the "dock" with kde 4.1.2? I start applications that should put an icon in the dock but I don't see it anywhere |
19:34.00 | crs | Bille: It is a bit sad face :) |
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19:34.12 | crs | But any way, thanks for your help Bille. |
19:34.14 | pwk | yeah with a tear in the eye ;) |
19:34.23 | crs | yeah :) |
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19:35.03 | Bille | oh i thought i was a wink and a twisted mouth |
19:35.23 | pwk | i don't know if "dock" is the right term...with 3.5 it used to be where the klipper icon is, now I have only the klipper and no other icons |
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19:37.03 | pwk | ok it seems to have been a problem of the "system tray", restarting that plasmoid fixed the problem (I see more than just klipper) |
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19:54.29 | gkiagia | hmm, folderview displays .desktop in desktop files that are links to locations :/ |
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20:04.17 | ouss | opera for fedora 8.....x86_64.bit |
20:04.26 | ouss | ?opera |
20:04.48 | ouss | /opera |
20:04.48 | ouss | ch_opea |
20:04.52 | ouss | >opera |
20:04.58 | larsivi | ouss: eh - wrong channel? |
20:06.41 | ouss | #opera |
20:07.03 | ouss | how to join opera channel |
20:07.51 | GraveDigger | try: /join #opera |
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20:08.01 | ouss | thankx |
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20:17.58 | ouss | opera for fedora 8.....x86_64.bit any ideas please? |
20:18.50 | pinotree | ouss: ask in #opera |
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20:28.14 | Klaus_Dieter | hello world |
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20:28.40 | Klaus_Dieter | I am running kde4.1 and after a re-compile of mesa to include support for my grpahics card kde crashes on startup |
20:28.55 | Klaus_Dieter | it does so while loading the 4th icon in the splash |
20:29.11 | Klaus_Dieter | I have no clue where to look for an error, can someone please assist me? |
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20:34.45 | Klaus_Dieter | oit seems that kwin is crashing |
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20:36.47 | Klaus_Dieter | after deleting kwinrc I am able to log in again |
20:37.15 | Klaus_Dieter | one thing is weird: When I set OpenGL in the accelerator then it counts down the 10 seconds and I can accept |
20:37.20 | Klaus_Dieter | everything seems fine |
20:37.39 | Klaus_Dieter | but if I accept the graphics settings then it crashes again |
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20:57.13 | guysoft42 | hey all, i am trying to log in to a window manager, but it does not work. is there a way i can see a log from kdm to see why it crashes? |
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21:01.58 | sprig | hello |
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21:03.53 | sprig | for some reason I get a connection refused to anonsvn.kde.org - why? |
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21:05.38 | praedor | Anyone here know anything about the tor frontend for KDE Tork? |
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21:07.22 | Klaus_Dieter | guysoft42: kdm writes a logfile to /Var/log/kdm.log |
21:07.29 | Klaus_Dieter | on my system that is |
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21:36.20 | belred | can someone please help me with this issue? i just starting using kmail in kde 4.1.3. an hour ago i had a toolbar that contained a textbox for searching and a dropdown listbox for showing new, unread, etc. messages. that toolbar is now gone and i have no idea how to bring it back. |
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21:39.10 | belred | you can see an image of the toolbar here: http://davigno.oxygen-icons.org/tag/kmail/ |
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21:41.26 | gkiagia | belred: heh, I seem to have lost that toolbar too... |
21:41.30 | gkiagia | I remember it though |
21:41.38 | belred | but i had it 1 hour ago!!!! |
21:41.39 | gkiagia | tries to bring it back now |
21:42.16 | belred | i've gone through every menu option twice :( |
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21:44.08 | seren | is anonsvn.kde.org down?\ |
21:44.26 | seren | i can ping it but cant check out |
21:45.02 | gkiagia | belred: found it. settings->configure kmail->appearence->message list->show quick search |
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21:49.17 | belred | gkiagia: THANKS!!! |
21:49.39 | Chrysalis | what is the use of the dashboard |
21:49.58 | Chrysalis | i dont quite get it other then outlining widgets |
21:52.22 | belred | gkiagia: the status is not sticky :( |
21:53.06 | gkiagia | yeah I know |
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21:53.54 | belred | i wanted to set up my inbox to only show new messages which i assume means from the last few days |
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21:54.04 | St_MPA3b | wgat's with SVN? :( |
21:55.08 | St_MPA3b | what's* |
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21:55.57 | gkiagia | belred: make a feature request |
21:56.14 | gkiagia | belred: I find that useful too actually... |
21:57.08 | VSpike | If I find that I can use the guidance power manager to control display brightness and dim the display when on battery, but that the power management settings for the display from the System Settings -> Display seem to have no effect, what would be the most likely cause? |
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21:57.40 | dave_ | hello |
21:58.05 | dave_ | hello |
21:58.43 | shadycat75 | anyone who can help |
21:58.57 | shadycat75 | i need to get 2 another irc channel |
21:59.13 | shadycat75 | n e 1 |
22:00.45 | St_MPA3b | <PROTECTED> |
22:00.53 | shadycat75 | cheers |
22:01.03 | St_MPA3b | <PROTECTED> |
22:01.31 | nanothief | is there a way to add a tag (eg work,personal) to a message through a filter? |
22:01.42 | nanothief | (in kmail) |
22:02.00 | nanothief | (kde 4.1.2) |
22:03.15 | St_MPA3b | soooo when SVN will be up? |
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22:04.27 | St_MPA3b | *cry* |
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22:06.56 | shadycat75 | thanks 4 the help St_MPA3b |
22:07.08 | St_MPA3b | np ;) |
22:07.36 | waucka | Does anyone know who is in charge of anonsvn? |
22:07.53 | SSJ_GZ | waucka: Known issue; being worked on. |
22:07.56 | waucka | cool |
22:08.09 | SSJ_GZ | waucka: In fact, one of the servers has just been brought back on line |
22:08.16 | waucka | Awesome! |
22:08.21 | belred | does anyone have gmail imap working kmail? |
22:08.33 | nanothief | belred, yes |
22:10.07 | belred | i'm getting an error "could not connect to host imap.gmail.com: Uknown error." |
22:10.21 | belred | i can ping imap.gmail.com |
22:11.04 | nanothief | if you have all the settings described here: http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=78799 , then it should work |
22:12.29 | belred | i followed those steps. i was just testing imap not smtp, so i didn't set those settings. i did use ssl port 993 for imap |
22:13.29 | flami | Is there a way to make kmail NOT open the local folder tree at startup ? ( 1.10 kde 4.1 ) |
22:15.18 | nanothief | flami: settings -> configure kmail -> misc -> open this folder on startup |
22:15.32 | belred | i just set the smtp settings, but it still can't talk to the host. i even tried the ipaddress directly |
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22:15.57 | nanothief | belred, have you set the security correctly? |
22:16.07 | nanothief | *security settings |
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22:17.42 | belred | for security i have SSL and i tried both clear text and login |
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22:18.17 | flami | nanothief: thanks ^^ I was searching for quite a while now |
22:18.59 | nanothief | :) |
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22:22.36 | belred | i think my company might be blocking imap'ing from gmail |
22:22.45 | St_MPA3b | hooray anonsvn works! |
22:23.14 | St_MPA3b | belred: you know that there must be not standart port? |
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22:24.48 | belred | google only uses port 993 for imap, right??? |
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22:27.15 | St_MPA3b | belred: no! http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=78799 |
22:28.08 | St_MPA3b | belred: oh, i'm blind. <ofc yes. |
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22:32.06 | chrisinajar | Hi there. So i've been fiddling with kde4 and i noticed that at first login it seems to take a really long time to finish the first step. During that time, the CPU is 99% idle... What is it doing at that time, and can it be skipped or somehow optimized? |
22:32.48 | chrisinajar | this is coming from an LTSP conference where we're trying to look at the possibility of kde4, if there are 1000 users logging in at once and it's generating the 5MB folders, who knows how long that will take... |
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22:35.57 | oneforall | any idea how I can figure out why https isn't working with konq(file/browser mode) \3.5.9 |
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22:40.22 | nanothief | chrisinajar, one thing that caused that for me was having ~/.ICEauthority owned by root, instead of user. (this is caused by starting gui programs with sudo instead of kdesu or similar) |
22:40.48 | nanothief | wait does it ever complete? if so then it isn't that problem |
22:40.52 | chrisinajar | nanothief: it happens at first login no matter what, and if you delete the .kde4 file it does it again. |
22:40.59 | chrisinajar | and it does complete |
22:41.22 | chrisinajar | backup your .kde4 file and log in, it will take at least 4 or 5 times longer than normal.. |
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22:42.01 | nanothief | chrisinajar, well it doesn't happen to me, the login screen disappears after < 10 seconds, even for a new user |
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22:46.03 | chrisinajar | nanothief: you're probably on a nice system then.... you should notice a difference though... |
22:46.07 | nanothief | ahh sorry, it did take a while (42 seconds when I timed it just now) |
22:46.18 | chrisinajar | I have probably 9 or 10 machines here all with this symptom :-P |
22:46.27 | nanothief | how long does it take you? |
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22:49.52 | isleshocky771 | All the sudden my alt key stopped working. I tried setkbmap and rebooting the computer. Any ideas? |
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22:51.00 | SSJ_GZ | isleshocky771: Is it possible that the key is physically broken? :) |
22:53.36 | isleshocky771 | SSJ_GZ: I'm testing it with xev and it's showing up perfectly |
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22:53.53 | SSJ_GZ | isleshocky771: Hmmm. |
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22:54.21 | isleshocky771 | SSJ_GZ: I've had this problem a bunch of times on a laptop I have at home running Kubuntu 8.04 - kde4.1, and to fix it I just reboot. I've never had it on this desktop (same setup) until just now and a reboot didn't fix it. |
22:54.49 | SSJ_GZ | isleshocky771: Yeah, I really can't think of anything like that that would survive a reboot :/ |
22:55.10 | isleshocky771 | It's weird because it happened right in the middle of working. |
22:56.04 | isleshocky771 | going to try rebooting again. |
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22:59.35 | Half-Left | pinotree: Do I have to recompile for a new cmake version update? |
22:59.50 | pinotree | should not be necessary |
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23:00.28 | Half-Left | oh, I need 2.6.2 and my distros has not updated so I need to manually compile it |
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23:08.13 | kde4 | :( |
23:08.30 | kde4 | need bit of help here |
23:09.00 | kde4 | i build kde but now it looks wird |
23:09.07 | kde4 | filled with dots |
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23:12.36 | gbin | Hi, I experience a strange thing on 4.1.72, alt-tab is ignored, anyone is experiencing it ? is it a known bug of the snapshot ? |
23:14.08 | kde4 | :( |
23:15.12 | Half-Left | Alt, tab works fine here from trunk |
23:16.09 | gbin | Half-Left : thx ... I gonna have to "upgrade" then ;) |
23:16.20 | kde4 | Half-Left: its me pinheiro |
23:16.33 | Half-Left | hehe |
23:16.48 | kde4 | a very doted kde 4 |
23:16.55 | kde4 | i can log in |
23:17.00 | kde4 | it kinda works |
23:17.02 | Half-Left | kde4: Corruption? |
23:17.18 | kde4 | the screen ist pixilated |
23:17.36 | kde4 | like wen we were in the 16 color days |
23:17.56 | kde4 | hever hapened to you |
23:17.56 | Half-Left | Ugh |
23:18.05 | kde4 | aparently not |
23:18.09 | kde4 | im recompiling |
23:18.22 | Half-Left | weird |
23:18.38 | kde4 | opengl dosent work 2 |
23:19.18 | Half-Left | I wonder how KDE4 can do that |
23:19.31 | Half-Left | Maybe you missed some libs or something |
23:19.50 | kde4 | maybe :( |
23:20.05 | Half-Left | What qt4 version? |
23:20.05 | kde4 | works sooo fine here |
23:20.17 | kde4 | qt copie |
23:20.20 | kde4 | from svn |
23:20.37 | Half-Left | ahhh, I dont know, strange |
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23:22.23 | kde4 | gona strat agian |
23:22.25 | kde4 | again |
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23:32.47 | bluelightning | wow, congrats kde/kubuntu team, upgrade to intrepid was smooth and everything seems to be working well |
23:33.08 | bluelightning | even compositing works well, which it didn't before :) |
23:33.10 | bluelightning | so shiny |
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23:33.41 | lilltiger | You probly just installed better graphic drivers |
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23:52.22 | wesley | Is the Iphone working okay with kde ? |
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23:56.23 | sini | hey guys, I'm trying out kde4 and I've turned on desktop effects and i'm using fglrx for my stuff -- glxgears randomly flickers but works just dandy windows are nicely transparent -- but mplayer (and vlc too) flicker like crazy between transparent and not with the gl/gl2 output methods. :| |
23:56.46 | sini | unless i fullscreen it |
23:57.59 | sini | if i pause it, mplayer becomes 100% transparent -- and if I have a window over it, the frames popup on top of all other windows :P |
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23:58.37 | lilltiger | sounds like an bug in the fglrx drivers |
23:58.50 | Jucato | http://userbase.kde.org/GPU-Performance |
23:59.23 | sini | lilltiger: doesn't do it with xcompmgr running and under awesomewm :P |
23:59.37 | sini | Jucato: thanks for the link i'll give it a read |