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| 00:23.25 | PeterFA | How do I get a trash icon on my desktop on 3.5.9? |
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| 00:34.01 | PhrkOnLsh | ninjaslim: I don't like GNOME |
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| 00:39.07 | djdarkman | hello, I am using the latest SVN build of KDE, where should I go to get help compiling stuff and file bugs? |
| 00:39.25 | PhrkOnLsh | #kde-devel iirc |
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| 00:51.56 | aimka | PeterFA: maybe with a link to "konqueror Trash:/" |
| 00:52.06 | aimka | but it's quite ugly ... |
| 00:52.27 | PhrkOnLsh | PeterFA: I love you |
| 00:52.53 | aimka | and it will not permit to clean it directly with this link ... |
| 00:52.57 | PeterFA | PhrkOnLsh, I love you too. |
| 00:54.19 | barsanuphe | hi, i'd like to fiddle around with the plasma-pyclock python plasmoid example, but i cant manage to open it with the add widget> install new widget> from file> python> ... |
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| 00:54.43 | barsanuphe | i understand it's supposed to be a zip, is there a specific extension? |
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| 01:45.06 | thesource | anyone know how to emerge kde4 in gentoo |
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| 01:47.33 | stdin | thesource: have you asked in #gentoo-kde ? |
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| 02:16.16 | comawhite | in kde-svn how can I make Folderview cover my entire background? |
| 02:20.34 | comawhite | okay i figured it out |
| 02:21.35 | ninjaslim | PhrkOnLsh: i don't like Gnome either, but generally that's what systems are being standardized with |
| 02:21.50 | PhrkOnLsh | meh. GNOME. |
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| 02:24.23 | ninjaslim | PhrkOnLsh: problem is most apps are done with gtk toolkit, so that's one other holding back KDE although KDE by know means is unpopular it is the definitive desktop for Unix |
| 02:24.41 | PhrkOnLsh | Yup |
| 02:25.01 | PhrkOnLsh | I think that a project that integrated both of them seamlessly would be really amazin |
| 02:25.34 | ninjaslim | i don't know because with every release gnome loses functionality so most of the functionality would come from kde side anyway |
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| 02:26.00 | PhrkOnLsh | lol, yeah |
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| 02:34.14 | PhrkOnLsh | regards from Konversation! |
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| 04:09.46 | scrote | hi |
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| 04:40.59 | smithjd | Linking CXX shared library ../lib/libsyndication.so build fails. using paludis and gentoo (kde-experimental) |
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| 04:41.10 | smithjd | http://pastebin.ca/1278519 |
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| 04:49.38 | drantin | smithjd: any reason you didn't ask in #genkdesvn? |
| 04:52.08 | smithjd | hadn't quite joined the channel yet. thanks |
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| 05:02.11 | drantin | smithjd: also, your pastebin doesn't contain the actual error |
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| 05:37.28 | Emess | if I change my keyboard layout by a keyboard shortcut, the icon in my taskbar doesn't change, is there a way to fix that? |
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| 06:16.06 | Andrew`` | can anyone tell me a paste site that pastes images? |
| 06:17.34 | _duke | Andrew``: get.freesoft.ru |
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| 06:19.39 | ner0x | How can I set my KDE up to that my usb headphones work? |
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| 06:22.06 | Hydrogen | imageshack.us |
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| 06:37.44 | comawhite | Andrew``, it crashed probably |
| 06:38.00 | comawhite | right click on the panel and add widget and add it back |
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| 06:50.56 | adrin_jalali | hi there, how can I set amarok 1.98 to use pulseaudio? |
| 06:51.37 | adrin_jalali | in amarok 1 there was a place in settings to choose device, but there is no one in amarok 2 |
| 06:51.56 | drantin | in amarok 2 is uses phonon, tell phonon to use pulseaudio |
| 06:52.00 | drantin | -is |
| 06:52.38 | drantin | systemsettings -> Multimedia |
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| 06:55.17 | drantin | or `kcmshell4 kcm_phonon` |
| 06:57.29 | adrin_jalali | thanks, it's fixed :) |
| 06:58.06 | drantin | np |
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| 07:00.39 | flaccid | kubuntu latest pkgs or kde 4.1/4/2x seems to have introduced a large line-height with text. why is this, and how do i reduce it? its nice, but a few pixels too much |
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| 07:04.01 | ner0x | Where do I find the place to set what KDE uses for audio? |
| 07:04.12 | drantin | systemsettings -> Multimedia |
| 07:04.15 | drantin | or `kcmshell4 kcm_phonon` |
| 07:05.12 | ner0x | drantin: I want to setup my system to use hw:1 instead of hw:0 |
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| 07:08.21 | _duke | is there any way to build konversation on kde 4.1.3? |
| 07:08.37 | flaccid | how to adjust line height of text? |
| 07:08.45 | drantin | not without kdelibs 3 |
| 07:09.19 | drantin | flaccid: try a different theme? skulpture is nice... |
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| 07:11.13 | _duke | (( |
| 07:11.33 | flaccid | hmm |
| 07:11.36 | flaccid | ok i will try |
| 07:11.48 | flaccid | drantin: out of theory, correct way to change themes? |
| 07:11.55 | flaccid | in system settings? |
| 07:12.21 | drantin | flaccid: yes, you can try ones you have installed there, theonei mentioned probably isn't there though |
| 07:12.30 | drantin | flaccid: under appearance |
| 07:12.56 | flaccid | 'Desktop Theme Details' in system settings is weird |
| 07:13.16 | flaccid | where in appearance is it? |
| 07:15.02 | flaccid | you have to change it in several places? |
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| 07:30.17 | evilgnome | can anyone tell me what I need to change the color and widget styles of amarok 1.4.x on ubuntu 8.10? I don't have kde installed. I have qt3config and qt4config set up, but they don't help for this. I have systemsettings installed, but it's pretty sparse. It allowed me to change the icons, but no colors or widget styles. thanks in advance for any help... |
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| 07:41.21 | zeltak | hi |
| 07:41.37 | SAS_Spidey01 | 'lo |
| 07:41.38 | zeltak | does anyone know a good gui fronend for rsync for kde? |
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| 07:50.43 | Foriskak | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:50.50 | Foriskak | any ideas? |
| 07:51.19 | Foriskak | when I select a window the mouse pointer disappears |
| 07:53.29 | SAS_Spidey01 | thinks there is little activity at the moment |
| 07:54.16 | stoned | hey |
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| 08:27.33 | Nikty | i want my kde3 looks like mac os? |
| 08:27.54 | flaccid | doesn't sound like you are sure on that Nikty |
| 08:28.17 | Nikty | flaccid: im sure! :) |
| 08:28.27 | Nikty | it there theme or something? |
| 08:28.33 | flaccid | maybe on kde-look.org |
| 08:28.36 | flaccid | or google |
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| 08:28.44 | Nikty | ок |
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| 08:33.22 | Pupeno | I don't have KDE installed, what packages do I need to be able to play videa from KPhotoAlbum? any ideas? I get: Getting KPart for the mime type: Failed. Can't find kfmclient. |
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| 08:33.53 | flaccid | kfmclient is in base iirc |
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| 08:39.33 | Pupeno | I actually do have /usr/bin/kfmclient |
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| 08:52.03 | Kraplax_yipeee | hello |
| 08:52.18 | maazu | hi |
| 08:52.18 | Kraplax_yipeee | i've upgraded from 4.1.2 to 4.2beta1 |
| 08:52.35 | Kraplax_yipeee | and i want my KMail see my previous mails |
| 08:52.40 | maazu | what is your fav. ide? |
| 08:53.06 | Kraplax_yipeee | but it only can get new mesages |
| 08:53.31 | Kraplax_yipeee | maazu: i work in Notepad++ and mingw32 :P |
| 08:53.41 | flaccid | they are not IDEs :p |
| 08:54.13 | Kraplax_yipeee | well, then consider me not using IDEs at all |
| 08:54.30 | Kraplax_yipeee | so, anyone who can help me with KMail issue? |
| 08:54.31 | maazu | Kraplax_yipeee: old school |
| 08:55.32 | Kraplax_yipeee | maazu: i'm just no hacker, really. But i think using separted tools makes one understand (feel?) the process better :) |
| 08:57.51 | maazu | Kraplax_yipeee: what ever. |
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| 08:58.23 | maazu | Kraplax_yipeee: why KMail? I gather your on WinXP |
| 08:58.25 | Kraplax_yipeee | Anyone here who can help me with KMail? :( |
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| 08:59.16 | Kraplax_yipeee | maazu: i use XP on my desktop and KMail on my EeePC. Ther're no stable and up-to-date packages for Windows :( |
| 09:00.05 | maazu | oh, just point browser to Google, Yahoo or MSN for emails |
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| 09:02.48 | Kraplax_yipeee | no, i want KMail to restore y previous mail DB, becuase after reinstall it needed to be reconfigured and it can't find it's previous mails. |
| 09:03.10 | Kraplax_yipeee | though, i guess i found the way out - there's an Import option |
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| 09:04.10 | maazu | Kraplax_yipeee: yeah, import dir where old mails reside. that works |
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| 09:28.55 | Welsh_Dwarf | Hi, I'm trying to update my kde svn (using kdesvnbuild), and kdebase is currently stalling because it can't find qimageblitz.h |
| 09:29.07 | Welsh_Dwarf | Is anyone else having this problem, and if so, have they found a fix? |
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| 09:31.01 | annma | do you have qimageblitz installed then? |
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| 09:31.36 | Welsh_Dwarf | Yes, it's in kdesupport |
| 09:31.42 | Welsh_Dwarf | which compiled and installed OK |
| 09:32.10 | annma | use pastebin, do 'make VERBOSE=1' in kdebase build dir and pastebin error please |
| 09:32.26 | annma | last compiling full line and then error |
| 09:32.37 | annma | or is it a cmake error? |
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| 09:33.43 | annma | Welsh_Dwarf: ^^ |
| 09:33.59 | Welsh_Dwarf | http://rafb.net/p/hZmAa293.html |
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| 09:34.04 | Welsh_Dwarf | Does that help? |
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| 09:35.05 | annma | hmm you did not follow what I said |
| 09:35.30 | annma | anyway, so remove CMakeCache.txt in kdebase build dir |
| 09:35.36 | annma | rerun cmake |
| 09:35.41 | annma | pastebin output |
| 09:36.05 | Welsh_Dwarf | OK |
| 09:36.31 | Welsh_Dwarf | Running |
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| 09:42.56 | cnu | kde-4.1.3: can i make kwallet unlock when i login? so it's somehow tied to my login username/password :p or would that maybe be stupid? |
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| 09:47.07 | annma | Welsh_Dwarf: do you have the cmake output then? |
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| 09:47.30 | Welsh_Dwarf | annma: no, it's still building |
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| 09:48.02 | annma | Welsh_Dwarf: cmake is not make |
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| 09:49.48 | annma | so Welsh_Dwarf cd in your kdebase build dir |
| 09:49.51 | annma | grep 'QIMAGEBLITZ_INCLUDES' CMakeCache.txt |
| 09:50.00 | annma | paste me the output here please |
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| 09:51.58 | Welsh_Dwarf | QIMAGEBLITZ_INCLUDES:PATH=/home/david/Documents/SVN/kde/kde/include/qimageblitz |
| 09:52.00 | Welsh_Dwarf | //Advanced flag for variable: QIMAGEBLITZ_INCLUDES |
| 09:52.01 | Welsh_Dwarf | QIMAGEBLITZ_INCLUDES-ADVANCED:INTERNAL=1 |
| 09:52.13 | Welsh_Dwarf | annma: PS.: Thanks for your patience :) |
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| 09:55.35 | DawnLight | so... anyone here? i'm affected by #169986 and that means i can't send e-mails... so can anyone help me with this? i'm using kubuntu so i don't think i can just upgrade and anyway - it's not yet solved |
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| 09:56.14 | annma | Welsh_Dwarf: so is it the correct install dir? |
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| 09:58.10 | Welsh_Dwarf | annma: yes, hte .h is there |
| 09:58.37 | annma | so it should build now |
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| 09:59.01 | annma | what is it doing? building ? |
| 09:59.19 | Welsh_Dwarf | OK, I'll post back when the build finishes (in 40 minutes or so if all goes well) |
| 09:59.20 | Welsh_Dwarf | Yes |
| 09:59.30 | annma | DawnLight: the bug report says it's maybe solved in trunk |
| 09:59.42 | annma | Welsh_Dwarf: it should not rebuild everything |
| 10:00.12 | annma | why do you build kde trunk if I may ask? |
| 10:00.19 | Welsh_Dwarf | annma: unfortunatly, I accedently emptied my build dir :( |
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| 10:00.48 | Welsh_Dwarf | annma: because I like being on the bleeding edge, and seeing first hand everything that is posted about on planet |
| 10:00.56 | annma | hmmm |
| 10:01.00 | Welsh_Dwarf | I've been running trunk since before 4.1 |
| 10:01.11 | annma | I suggest you read techbase page about building KDE then |
| 10:01.22 | Welsh_Dwarf | OK |
| 10:01.30 | annma | so you can understand what we ask when you hit an error |
| 10:01.48 | Welsh_Dwarf | ATM I'm using the kdesvnbuild script, I suppose it's not the best choice for bug hunting |
| 10:01.50 | annma | difference between source, build and install dirs, where are all those |
| 10:01.54 | Welsh_Dwarf | Thanks for the tip |
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| 10:02.05 | annma | difference between cmake and maek |
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| 10:02.21 | annma | learn how to run cmake manuall |
| 10:02.23 | annma | y |
| 10:02.46 | annma | kdesvn-build is OK as long as you can make sense of errors when they happen |
| 10:02.56 | annma | it's OK as long as there are no errors in fact |
| 10:03.44 | Welsh_Dwarf | Thanks for the info :) I'll go read techbase now then :) |
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| 10:14.06 | DawnLight | so my bug is solved in trunk but... i can't just install trunk in kubuntu, right? so what do i do? and what if my bug is serious. enough to prevent me sending e-mail? |
| 10:14.19 | DawnLight | i know this doesn't have a trivial answer... but |
| 10:14.50 | annma | if it's serious and prevent sending mail Ubuntu should not have had shipped it |
| 10:15.09 | annma | I don't really knwo what the bug is about |
| 10:15.21 | annma | if you disable spellcheck, doesn't it work? |
| 10:15.44 | DawnLight | annma: i didn't find how to do that |
| 10:15.47 | Nigbot | Tired of nigggerrrss? Are you aware that all other races are descended from extraterrestrials that populated central asia while NEGROIDS actually evolved in Africa from apes? Then join us at http://www.chimpout.com Chimpout.com welcomes Asians, Whites, mexicans, Jews, ets......but no niiigggerrrs!!! |
| 10:15.48 | DawnLight | do you know? |
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| 10:16.54 | annma | DawnLight: ask in #kontact maybe |
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| 10:17.24 | annma | apparently there's no option in kmail itself, maybe in systemsettings? |
| 10:17.34 | annma | my spellcheck is not activated |
| 10:17.38 | Nigbot | Tired of nigggerrrss? Are you aware that all other races are descended from extraterrestrials that populated central asia while NEGROIDS actually evolved in Africa from apes? Then join us at http://www.chimpout.com Chimpout.com welcomes Asians, Whites, mexicans, Jews, ets......but no niiigggerrrs!!! |
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| 10:18.00 | serenity | aloha |
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| 10:18.08 | rohan | i am playing avi file in kaffeine, and the audio video is out of sync. can i delay the audio somehow? |
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| 10:18.18 | rohan | mplayer has a keyboard shortcut for that, does kaffeine? |
| 10:18.18 | pinotree | kisses annma |
| 10:18.20 | annma | ah I was too slow |
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| 10:18.29 | DawnLight | i'll try. thanks annma |
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| 10:19.10 | serenity | thinks, that this channel has to get a PG-Rating |
| 10:19.27 | supert0nes | this server could use atleast one more k-line tonight |
| 10:19.35 | annma | hey serenity |
| 10:19.41 | serenity | heyhey annma |
| 10:19.58 | annma | serenity: I did not find any link for the video, I was not there yesterday |
| 10:20.11 | serenity | annma: for the stream, or the torrent? |
| 10:20.15 | annma | torrent |
| 10:20.31 | serenity | there is none yet |
| 10:20.32 | annma | the stream would be second choice though ;) |
| 10:20.40 | annma | any hope to get one? |
| 10:20.52 | annma | I did not see last week's as well |
| 10:20.55 | serenity | there is no way to download the video on mogulus |
| 10:21.10 | serenity | but aaron will screen-cap it |
| 10:21.14 | annma | OK |
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| 10:21.25 | evilgnome | can anyone tell me what I need to change the color and widget styles of amarok 1.4.x on ubuntu 8.10? I don't have kde installed. I have qt3config and qt4config set up, but they don't help for this. I have systemsettings installed, but it's pretty sparse. It allowed me to change the icons, but no colors or widget styles. thanks in advance for any help... |
| 10:21.45 | serenity | but next week cool things will, hopefully, happen |
| 10:22.12 | annma | :) |
| 10:22.50 | annma | evilgnome: isn't amarok 1.4 from kde3? you need kcontrol kcms then |
| 10:23.10 | evilgnome | kcontrol is not available for ubuntu 8.10 |
| 10:23.56 | serenity | strange things happened here: my fan speeds up and my temp plasm. showed 79°C |
| 10:23.58 | annma | did you ask ubuntu people then how you can customize amarok |
| 10:24.10 | annma | serenity: ouch |
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| 10:24.30 | serenity | yipp, but i did nothing cpu-stressing |
| 10:24.31 | evilgnome | annma: I've been asking ubuntu people, amarok people, kde people, and they keep just forwarding to one of the other groups |
| 10:24.52 | annma | well ubuntu are the culprit at first place |
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| 10:25.27 | annma | you want to set up amarok 1.4 theme and what? |
| 10:25.37 | annma | do you have any theme and what? |
| 10:25.47 | evilgnome | annma: I want to change the kde theme |
| 10:25.48 | annma | explain your problem better at first |
| 10:25.53 | annma | what KDE theme |
| 10:26.03 | annma | KDE version , theme what to theme what |
| 10:26.17 | evilgnome | KDE 3.x |
| 10:26.34 | evilgnome | Theme whatever-it-is to whatever-most-looks-like-darklooks |
| 10:26.38 | annma | what's current theme, what new theme do you have installed and where |
| 10:26.58 | annma | do you have any theme actually? |
| 10:27.07 | annma | or are you first looking for one |
| 10:27.30 | evilgnome | I can handle finding a good theme. I can't find a way to install any theme, though |
| 10:27.38 | annma | so first find one |
| 10:27.49 | annma | then probably edit some config files |
| 10:27.55 | annma | if you don't have any GUI tools |
| 10:28.27 | evilgnome | annma: how can I find out which files I need to edit? |
| 10:29.17 | annma | have a look in $KDEHOME/share/config |
| 10:31.23 | evilgnome | I have a .kcsrc file and a .qtcurve file. nothing in ~/.kde/share/config looks helpful |
| 10:32.42 | annma | if you only have amarok from kde3 of course you don't have anyting here |
| 10:33.19 | annma | get someone with kde3, get him apply the theme you choose and get him diff his config files |
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| 10:35.39 | annma | for colors for ex the settings are saved in kdeglobals file and there are many many lines |
| 10:35.58 | annma | kdeglobals being in $KDEHOME/share/config |
| 10:38.09 | serenity | where lies powerdevil? Playground? |
| 10:38.20 | evilgnome | annma: do you think I should copy the contents of the kcsrc file into the kdeglobals file? |
| 10:38.36 | annma | pastebin these lines |
| 10:38.43 | annma | so I can see |
| 10:38.50 | annma | serenity: kdebase |
| 10:38.58 | serenity | thanks |
| 10:39.03 | annma | kdebase/workspace/powerdevil iirc serenity |
| 10:40.13 | serenity | found it |
| 10:41.14 | evilgnome | annma: http://pastebin.com/d74d7898f |
| 10:42.48 | annma | if you don't have any kdeglobasl file you can create one with this content to try |
| 10:42.58 | annma | I don't have kde3 anymore to check |
| 10:43.03 | annma | kdeglobals |
| 10:43.15 | evilgnome | annma: my kdeglobals file is as written in the pastebin |
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| 10:43.29 | evilgnome | line 31 |
| 10:43.35 | annma | Ithought it was your theme file |
| 10:43.56 | evilgnome | line 31 says "File:kdeglobals" |
| 10:44.06 | annma | ah ok |
| 10:44.26 | annma | backup kdeglobals to kdeglobals.bak |
| 10:44.42 | annma | add the lucid stuff to it but I am not sure it would work |
| 10:45.08 | annma | the best would be to find someone getting this theme and then getting the config lines to you |
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| 10:45.38 | evilgnome | annma: thanks, I'll see what I can do |
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| 10:47.27 | serenity | hmm, powerdevil is already translated |
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| 10:48.39 | Jucato | [18:16] * pinotree kisses annma <-- tsk tsk not in here :) |
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| 10:48.55 | serenity | Jucato: we need a pg-rating for this chan |
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| 10:49.38 | pinotree | Jucato: on the cheeck, of course... what do you think? :P |
| 10:49.46 | serenity | #kde entrance only in company with your parents |
| 10:50.01 | annma | lol |
| 10:50.04 | Jucato | pinotree: I was thinking forehead :P |
| 10:50.23 | Jucato | serenity: any suggestion for an age requirement? PG-13? |
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| 10:50.44 | serenity | Jucato: should be ok...mild sexual action |
| 10:50.52 | pinotree | PG-enoughbrain i'd say, as it seems sometimes sombody with such miss comes... |
| 10:51.32 | Jucato | leaves the channel in able hands, then |
| 10:51.39 | Jucato | gotta go sing.. somewhere :P |
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| 10:54.49 | elirips | hello. can somebody please tell me, how I could change the language of KMail's spell-checker from Englisch to German (Switzerland) / de_ch? I dont find the setting in kmail (?) |
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| 10:56.42 | serenity | elirips: look in systemsettings, language |
| 10:56.57 | serenity | there you can change the spell-checker |
| 10:56.57 | elirips | serenity: system-settings from KDE? |
| 10:57.01 | serenity | yes |
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| 10:57.31 | elirips | serenity: ah, thank you. I thought I have to change it in Kmail :P |
| 10:58.08 | serenity | it's systemwide |
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| 11:02.00 | elirips | serenity: do i need to log-out and log-in again, or install any additional packages after changing? I changed the default-spellchecker, but still Kmail only gives me red (and i dont make that much mistakes, i think ;) ) |
| 11:02.22 | serenity | restart kontact |
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| 11:03.51 | elirips | serenity: doesnt help |
| 11:03.58 | serenity | hmm |
| 11:04.11 | serenity | aspell/myspell for german installed? |
| 11:04.21 | elirips | serenity: but, when shutdown kontact i get: ** (process:13720): WARNING **: 2 dictionaries weren't free'd. |
| 11:04.34 | thiago_home | that doesn't look like a KDE warnings |
| 11:04.40 | Cannon | hey guys, could somebody suggest a good ftp client please ... preferably one that supports multiple transfers at once? |
| 11:04.56 | thiago_home | Cannon: konqueror and dolphin can transfer multiple files at once |
| 11:05.04 | Cannon | sweet! |
| 11:05.11 | Cannon | goes to investigate |
| 11:05.22 | Cannon | dolphin must be multi function, eh? :P |
| 11:06.30 | serenity | elirips: dictionaries are installed? |
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| 11:07.27 | elirips | serenity: trying to. stupid conflict of myspell-de-ch with language-pack-de (which gives me spellcheck de-ch for openoffice=) |
| 11:07.53 | elirips | mean language-support-de |
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| 11:10.51 | serenity_ | re |
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| 11:49.07 | Dragonath | hi, I tried out kde4 some time ago but decided to move back to kde3.. however some kde3 apps still insist on using the color schemes from kde4, how do I fix this? |
| 11:49.47 | Dragonath | and is there a way to remove all kde4 apps? right now even if I reinstall everything and then do purge, they still stay in the k menu |
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| 11:52.07 | cb400f | sounds like you need to speak with your distro channel |
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| 11:53.16 | Dragonath | hm they sent me here |
| 11:53.21 | Dragonath | oh well :) |
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| 11:53.52 | cb400f | Dragonath: who they? you use kubuntu? |
| 11:53.59 | Dragonath | kubuntu yes |
| 11:54.32 | cb400f | figured as much.. and #kubuntu or #ubuntu-kde or whatever sent you here? |
| 11:54.43 | Dragonath | #kubuntu |
| 11:55.12 | cb400f | :-| |
| 11:55.47 | Dragonath | well no worries I will keep researching this and eventually I will find out how to do it |
| 11:55.49 | Dragonath | :) |
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| 11:56.12 | cb400f | maybe install ubuntu or xubuntu or server-edition and install kde3 on top of that |
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| 11:56.44 | cb400f | .. but you really shut learn to love kde4 sooner or later anyway.. no future in that other stuff |
| 11:56.52 | cb400f | s/shut/should/ |
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| 11:59.45 | Dragonath | yeah I know, it's just that kde3 is currently enough for me, kde4 is lacking the configurability in my opinion |
| 12:00.42 | Dragonath | (I couldn't find out how to change the taskbar color) |
| 12:01.14 | Dragonath | I think the last straw was when I couldn't open zip files with the kde4 version of ark, the kde3 ark had no problems |
| 12:02.13 | huan | hello |
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| 12:06.27 | glen__ | how to open kwallet manager in kde4? |
| 12:07.41 | glen__ | and how to disable kopete fetching some damn http://whatismyip.com/automation/ ... ? |
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| 12:14.58 | Half-Left | glen__: Kwallet manager is in the menu |
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| 12:15.31 | glen__ | Half-Left, i don't see it. can you tell what is the .desktop file what launches it? |
| 12:15.36 | HavocXphere | That or press alt-F2 and type kwallet. You might have to restore it from the tray though |
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| 12:16.14 | Half-Left | kwalletmanager |
| 12:16.30 | glen__ | i don't have it on tray, nor in menus. i likely have some missing package |
| 12:16.36 | glen__ | Half-Left, kwalletmaneger.desktop ? |
| 12:16.53 | Half-Left | thats the command to run it yes |
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| 12:17.17 | Half-Left | Though it's in systemssettings>Advanced |
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| 12:17.44 | HavocXphere | Half-Left: Do you know how to add favorites to the kmenu?...can't find that info anywhere. I can remove favs but not add. |
| 12:18.15 | Half-Left | HavocXphere: In kickoff? |
| 12:18.56 | HavocXphere | Yeah, the default kde4 menu thing at lower left |
| 12:19.28 | Half-Left | Just right click the app and Add to favorites |
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| 12:20.04 | HavocXphere | Ah. Awesome found it. Thanks |
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| 12:31.05 | tosmo | i've just installed 4.1 and am wondering why scrolling in kwrite has become so slow. this is a bit annoying, as this is a standard widget. no fancy graphics effects etc which would slow down things |
| 12:31.18 | tosmo | (in dolphin/kmail/etc as well, btw) |
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| 12:32.44 | Half-Left | tosmo: Graphics driver? |
| 12:32.59 | tosmo | intel 2.4 |
| 12:33.20 | Half-Left | Desktop effects on? |
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| 12:33.49 | tosmo | i assume not, where would i turn them on/off?# |
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| 12:34.07 | tosmo | nothing with composite that i know of at least |
| 12:34.10 | Half-Left | systemsettings>Desktop |
| 12:34.34 | tosmo | disabled |
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| 12:35.45 | Half-Left | Not sure than, maybe you need to google about intel setup in xorg,conf, you may want EXA or XAA on |
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| 12:40.57 | wesley | hi i get a cmake error and i still dont know how to solve it |
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| 12:41.11 | wesley | http://paste.ubuntu.com/81898/ |
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| 12:42.04 | theclaw | hi |
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| 12:44.04 | theclaw | kile somehow adds a space when I start a new environment with \begin{...} and press enter. When I press enter again, however, this newline is lost. Any idea on how to make kile insert this space again on a new line? |
| 12:44.28 | theclaw | or, alternatively, a way to disable inserting this space character? |
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| 12:45.07 | wesley__ | someone can help me with the cmake error ? |
| 12:46.06 | annma | wesley__: paste more of cmake output |
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| 12:47.09 | annma | wesley__: did you see that? |
| 12:47.32 | wesley__ | yes |
| 12:47.46 | wesley__ | http://paste.ubuntu.com/81901/ |
| 12:48.01 | annma | OK |
| 12:48.14 | annma | wesley__: so state what you are trying to do and what you already did |
| 12:49.03 | annma | did you build the whole KDE? branch or trunk? |
| 12:49.03 | wesley__ | i am trying to run cmake -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=/usr/ but i get errors, i did install everthing that i needed, so i dont know what i am missing |
| 12:49.11 | annma | did you build the whole KDE? branch or trunk? |
| 12:49.16 | wesley__ | no i wanted to build localozation |
| 12:49.24 | annma | lokalization of what |
| 12:49.37 | annma | nl |
| 12:49.43 | annma | OK so what do you have installed |
| 12:49.49 | annma | what KDE version? |
| 12:50.31 | annma | wesley__: I can only help you if you give me the answers |
| 12:50.53 | annma | I know how to build l10n languages but I don't know your system |
| 12:51.04 | wesley__ | kde4.2 beta |
| 12:51.13 | annma | all devel packages? |
| 12:51.35 | annma | do you have kdelibs devel packages |
| 12:51.45 | wesley__ | yeah i followed the guide on kde.org , but installed from kubuntu |
| 12:52.05 | annma | OK then for languages, what did you svn up |
| 12:52.19 | annma | paste here the svn co commands you issued |
| 12:52.33 | wesley__ | i followed the guide and did set up the nl map |
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| 12:53.04 | annma | cmake --version |
| 12:53.06 | annma | paste result |
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| 12:53.23 | annma | you did set up the nl map: can't you explain that??? |
| 12:53.35 | wesley__ | cmake version 2.6-patch 2 |
| 12:53.42 | annma | ok so now explain above |
| 12:54.06 | wesley__ | uh yeah you need to run some commands to setup the localozation |
| 12:55.15 | wesley__ | so i did get the nl map, but strange thing is i got the cmake file and all |
| 12:56.29 | wesley__ | http://techbase.kde.org/Development/Tutorials/Localization/Building_KDE's_l10n_Module this guide did i follow |
| 12:59.49 | wesley__ | i think the updated cmake can be the problem |
| 13:00.36 | annma | ? |
| 13:00.47 | wesley__ | i am using kubuntu |
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| 13:01.26 | GraveDigger | 8.10? |
| 13:01.32 | wesley__ | yes |
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| 13:04.22 | annma | wesley__: you don't make any sense to me |
| 13:04.34 | annma | what do you mean by "updated cmake" |
| 13:04.49 | annma | your cmake version is the one required for trunk |
| 13:05.06 | wesley__ | patch maby does the cmake not work with sources from kde |
| 13:05.47 | annma | of course not |
| 13:05.54 | xenol | how can i start Khotkeys? in service manager it's says it doesnt run. any idea? |
| 13:05.56 | annma | patch-2 means 2.6.1 |
| 13:05.59 | annma | patch-2 means 2.6.2 |
| 13:06.20 | annma | it's what is required |
| 13:06.30 | wesley__ | oh okay then why am i getting that cmake error? its says something about a minimun |
| 13:06.32 | annma | are you going to translate KDE wesley__ |
| 13:06.53 | Sinister` | Barack Obama was raised by ronald reagan for 4 years did anyone know that ? |
| 13:06.55 | annma | wesley__: to tell you about your error I would need to see your cmakekde script |
| 13:06.57 | wesley__ | cmake_minimum_required(VERSION 2.6) no i just wanna build from source |
| 13:07.13 | wesley__ | Obama belongs in a tree |
| 13:07.27 | annma | you're getting an error because your system is not set properly |
| 13:08.01 | wesley__ | i did but the bash thing in my bash script |
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| 13:08.15 | Sinister` | http://v2.dealermaid.com/assets/images/dealer_pictures/contact_pictures/Reagan%20&%20Bonzo.jpg |
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| 13:17.55 | Sleep_Walker | greetings |
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| 13:27.09 | RichiH | hmm |
| 13:27.15 | RichiH | for some reason, alt-tab is not working |
| 13:27.18 | blip- | hi all, while pressing stuff to see my kb shortcuts I pressed ctrl-alt-h and it brought up this weird circular menu with program shortcuts.... what is that called ? is it from KDE3 ? can i edit it ? |
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| 13:29.43 | thiago_home | blip-: I can't place that to any KDE app |
| 13:30.46 | blip- | thiago_home: hmm so you don't have it when you hold ctrl+alt and press H... hmm maybe it's from openbox since i'm running KDE/openbox session...ie KDE is the DE but using openbox as the wm |
| 13:31.42 | blip- | it looks like those circular menus you get with windows mouse drivers |
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| 13:32.03 | blip- | but better looking and transparent |
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| 13:39.18 | Maxa | where does konsole look for fonts? there are only a few availabele vs system settings for example |
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| 13:40.21 | pinotree | Maxa: you can ose only monospaced fonts in konsole |
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| 13:41.21 | FreakGuard | is it possible for mplayer to use KIO? |
| 13:42.10 | Maxa | i wonder how it detects what is monospaced... "nimbus mono l" doesnt show up for example |
| 13:43.06 | pinotree | FreakGuard: don't think so, ask in #mplayer |
| 13:43.24 | FreakGuard | kmplayer? |
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| 13:51.23 | RichiH | ok, i know why my alt-tab does not work |
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| 13:51.38 | RichiH | in related news, how do i (re)start the dbus server? |
| 13:52.36 | pusling | sudo rebooh |
| 13:52.38 | pusling | sudo reboot |
| 13:52.53 | RichiH | pusling: ha. ha. |
| 13:52.58 | RichiH | there has to be a better way |
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| 14:02.05 | serenity | re |
| 14:03.23 | serenity | weird. Working on my notebook, suddenly the fan speeds up and my sys-temp increase from 45 to 80°C. So i looked around and recognise that kwin is eating 40-50% CPU |
| 14:03.37 | RichiH | pusling: seriously, is a reboot the only way to fix this? |
| 14:04.02 | annma | serenity: is that new? |
| 14:04.10 | serenity | yipp, since today. |
| 14:05.40 | annma | did you restart kde after building then? |
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| 14:06.11 | serenity | yes |
| 14:06.14 | serenity | http://img70.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot3vo4.jpg |
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| 14:06.52 | annma | you need to look at kwin commits since you last built |
| 14:07.14 | serenity | annma: i'm using packages of 4.2.b1 |
| 14:07.24 | serenity | and there was no update |
| 14:07.25 | pusling | RichiH: if you restart the system bus, you need to restart all applications connecting to the system bus. if you restart the user bus, you need to restart applications using that. client's can't reconnect. |
| 14:07.43 | pusling | "upgrading dbus is like upgrading the kernel, you need to reboot" - the dbus devs |
| 14:07.57 | annma | serenity: so you did not upgrade today |
| 14:08.03 | annma | or yes? |
| 14:08.20 | serenity | no, did not |
| 14:08.28 | serenity | last update is 2 days ago |
| 14:08.31 | pusling | waves to annma ;) |
| 14:08.35 | annma | hey pusling |
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| 14:08.45 | annma | serenity: then somthing else triggered this |
| 14:08.50 | annma | if your kde is the same |
| 14:08.56 | serenity | seems so |
| 14:08.57 | metafor | Anyone know where I can find kopete error log? |
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| 14:09.16 | annma | metafor: what error? |
| 14:09.30 | annma | what kind of error |
| 14:09.34 | metafor | well, it crashes when I try adding an account |
| 14:09.46 | annma | so you get a backtrace probably |
| 14:09.58 | RichiH | pusling: sucks |
| 14:10.10 | RichiH | pusling: especialy since it died without me doing anything special |
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| 14:10.45 | RichiH | pusling: though if i log out, stop KDE & KDM and then restart dbus? |
| 14:11.09 | pusling | RichiH: are you talking about the system bus or the session bus ? |
| 14:11.34 | RichiH | pusling: i have no idea |
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| 14:12.00 | RichiH | pusling: a process is running both under root and under richih |
| 14:12.15 | RichiH | pusling: no idea where the disconnect is coming from |
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| 14:12.28 | metafor | kopete(24495) Kopete::AV::VideoDevice::getFrame: "/dev/video0" MMAPed getFrame failed. |
| 14:12.29 | pusling | the system bus is the thing that runs as message-bus user (or maybe root) and handles network manager, plugging devices and such. The session bus runs as user. |
| 14:12.31 | metafor | anyone got a clue? |
| 14:13.05 | annma | metafor: #kopete |
| 14:13.14 | annma | and pastebin backtrace from crash for them |
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| 14:15.35 | sky_ | i want see which temperature on GPU i have how i can do it on Fedora ? |
| 14:16.06 | RichiH | pusling: both run. i just don't know which of them is not happy, any more |
| 14:16.16 | pusling | heh. |
| 14:16.18 | RichiH | well, nm.. i guess i will just reboot |
| 14:16.26 | pusling | what does qdbusviewer tell you ? |
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| 14:17.00 | zigovr3 | Hi all, I'm looking for a way to get which picture is currently displayed by gwenview (from a commandline with dcop for example), how any idea how to do that (kde 3.5) |
| 14:17.01 | RichiH | need to install it, sec |
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| 14:17.49 | RichiH | ugh, the dev tools depend on all the -dev packages |
| 14:19.53 | serenity | hmm, kde says kwin takes 45% cpu usage, top says 95% |
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| 14:20.48 | sky_ | which distro is best ? xD |
| 14:20.58 | pinotree | the one you like |
| 14:21.02 | serenity | do you except an answer? |
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| 14:21.56 | serenity | upps, typo |
| 14:21.57 | sky_ | which distro u use guys ? |
| 14:22.07 | annma | all sorts |
| 14:22.21 | annma | name it, someone will use it here |
| 14:22.36 | serenity | and there is no "one to rule them all"-distro |
| 14:22.37 | annma | just google and make your own opinion about it sky_ |
| 14:23.37 | sky_ | anyone know how i can display which temperature i have on my GPU ? |
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| 14:25.00 | RichiH | pusling: let me guess, in order to restart, i need to have working dbus? |
| 14:25.09 | serenity | lm-sensors can do that |
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| 14:26.11 | pusling | RichiH: oh. depends wether you want to restar with kde or just sudo reboot in console ;) |
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| 14:26.42 | RichiH | pusling: touche |
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| 14:29.12 | testi | How can I edit and save svg files? |
| 14:29.30 | Zarin | Inkscape |
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| 14:30.16 | testi | Thanks |
| 14:30.16 | serenity | re |
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| 14:30.28 | serenity | so, after restarting kde, kwin is up to normal |
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| 14:32.35 | _prophecy_ | I am trying to fix the build issue with pykde4 on gentoo using kde-experimental with paludis. The issue is realted to the KDEPIM add_library with cmake. Does anybody know anything about this add_library issue? |
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| 14:39.47 | serenity | so, cpu is down to 48°C :) |
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| 14:49.34 | localh0st | Half-Left: hello, i started up Compiz, and KDE 4.1 work really better than with KWiN |
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| 14:50.46 | Half-Left | localh0st: yes, indeed, 4.2 is better performance with compositing |
| 14:51.11 | localh0st | But KDE 4.1 without compositing works slowly too |
| 14:51.21 | localh0st | And not very smooth |
| 14:51.22 | Half-Left | It's no secret compiz is better optimzed |
| 14:51.37 | Half-Left | Since it's had a longer developement time |
| 14:51.50 | localh0st | But i dont knew about it yesterday |
| 14:51.58 | localh0st | i dint know |
| 14:52.40 | Half-Left | Not much you can do about it, and like I said 4.2 compositing is better and smoother |
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| 14:53.08 | localh0st | or something, sorry but i cant remeber past simple (?) |
| 14:54.10 | localh0st | Glory, KDE 4.2 will be published at january '09 |
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| 14:57.14 | Half-Left | localh0st: Turn VSync off if you have it on |
| 14:58.22 | da1l6 | hi |
| 14:58.28 | da1l6 | Is there a plasma applet to embed a terminal window (using KDE 4.1.3)? |
| 14:58.33 | ChemBro | hi there, i have a problem with kde 4.1.81 and quassel 0.3.0.3 see screenshot http://ubuntu-pics.de/bild/6839/quassel2_J8Jvp3.png but i don't know where to file the bug |
| 14:58.35 | Half-Left | nope |
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| 14:58.59 | da1l6 | :( |
| 14:59.30 | Half-Left | da1l6: plasmoids dont embed windows, that sort of thing is experimental |
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| 14:59.52 | Half-Left | But Yes it can be done |
| 15:00.50 | Half-Left | da1l6: http://www.notmart.org/index.php/BlaBla/Rotating_your_adult_content |
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| 15:02.37 | DanaKil | hi |
| 15:03.07 | localh0st | Half-Left: vsync in xorg/kde? |
| 15:03.22 | Half-Left | localh0st: In desktop effects>Advanced |
| 15:04.34 | localh0st | its already disabled |
| 15:04.50 | Half-Left | oh well |
| 15:05.07 | localh0st | Hm |
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| 15:05.46 | localh0st | But when i change "Composite type" from OpenGL to XRender, imho it speed up |
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| 15:06.28 | Half-Left | nvidia? |
| 15:06.50 | Half-Left | Xrender is more CPU bound |
| 15:07.52 | Half-Left | i.e will work better on lower end cards and onboard graphics |
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| 15:08.29 | Half-Left | brb |
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| 15:20.12 | localh0st | Half-Left: yes, nvidia |
| 15:20.38 | localh0st | Nvm, i waiting for KDE 4.2 |
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| 15:27.15 | Half-Left | localh0st: What driver version? |
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| 15:30.59 | bug2000 | http://omploader.org/vendt - any ideas? |
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| 15:31.35 | Zubair | #Fedora |
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| 15:33.44 | bug2000 | That is being weird. |
| 15:34.02 | Half-Left | bug2000: Graphics drivers? |
| 15:34.15 | bug2000 | Half-Left: Latest. [Legecy. Hehe] |
| 15:34.31 | Half-Left | nvidia? |
| 15:34.36 | bug2000 | Yap. |
| 15:34.54 | Half-Left | ahhh, maybe that then |
| 15:35.18 | bug2000 | But... It used to work? |
| 15:35.31 | bug2000 | I think. Though there was an update not long ago. |
| 15:35.37 | bug2000 | So you are saying they ***** up? |
| 15:35.56 | Half-Left | try the xorg nv one and see |
| 15:36.31 | bug2000 | Is it stable? Last I tried, I couldn't even get vesa to work. |
| 15:37.04 | Half-Left | nv yer, it's only 2d but if it renders proper you knows it's the nvidia driver |
| 15:37.45 | bug2000 | Bah. I guess I have no choice [even though I need 3d for the little amount of games I can play] |
| 15:38.30 | Half-Left | Well you can switch between |
| 15:39.01 | bug2000 | nv. Ok. Gimme a sec. I'll restart X. |
| 15:39.52 | localh0st | Half-Left: 96xx |
| 15:40.05 | bug2000 | localh0st: Thats what I use. |
| 15:40.10 | localh0st | My GPU is not very good, its fx5200 |
| 15:40.17 | localh0st | bug2000: :( |
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| 15:40.31 | localh0st | Half-Left: have you 4GB of memory? |
| 15:40.34 | bug2000 | Better than Nvidia 4MX. |
| 15:40.43 | localh0st | bug2000: lol, nope ;P |
| 15:41.02 | Half-Left | localh0st: It's a know issue with them older cards, the newer 6/7/8/9 have accelerated Xrender |
| 15:41.07 | bug2000 | localh0st: There can't be anything worse than GeForce 4MX. |
| 15:41.09 | Half-Left | localh0st: I do yes |
| 15:41.13 | localh0st | Ive got only ~500fps more in system |
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| 15:41.42 | localh0st | Half-Left: i hope its your video? http://pl.youtube.com/watch?v=JFjfk2AAn6s ;P |
| 15:42.00 | Half-Left | localh0st: yes, thats mine |
| 15:42.52 | localh0st | Nice smooth |
| 15:43.16 | Half-Left | It's actually smoother than that now |
| 15:43.17 | localh0st | On my computer and 4.1 first i see center of window, and next i see borders |
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| 15:43.40 | Half-Left | 4.2 scales the widgets proper now as well |
| 15:43.52 | Half-Left | (a bit buggy still) |
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| 15:44.25 | localh0st | Mhm, Are you KDE developer Half-Left ? |
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| 15:44.41 | Half-Left | localh0st: On the graphics side yes |
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| 15:45.21 | BCMM_ | is the kde 4.2 networkmanager support finished in beta 1? |
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| 15:45.46 | Half-Left | BCMM: Wont be ready for 4.2 I'm afraid |
| 15:46.11 | Half-Left | Some distros may backport it |
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| 15:49.19 | localh0st | Half-Left: so i wish you a lot of heavy patience to finish your work in KDE as well |
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| 15:50.14 | localh0st | That must working good in the future, becouse i hate Gnome, Xfce is not for me and other WM sucks :) |
| 15:50.23 | bug2000 | Half-Left: sadly, it fixed it. |
| 15:50.40 | localh0st | (imo more people think like me ) |
| 15:50.55 | gr1m-lap | bug2000: there's an #nvidia channel for community support of the binary blob |
| 15:51.07 | bug2000 | Seems like it. |
| 15:51.20 | Half-Left | localh0st: Alot of my graphics are done in kdegames, just plasma themes now :) |
| 15:51.25 | bug2000 | gr1m-lap: I thought it was KDE at first, because the application was KDE. |
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| 15:51.52 | gr1m-lap | bug2000: if you are using kde4 I understand that qt4 exposes a lot of bugs in the nvidia xrender implementation |
| 15:51.58 | gr1m-lap | from what I've read and heard |
| 15:52.36 | Phlogi | does kbluetooth4 work for you? How can I simply exchange data with my phone via bluetooth? Is there a kio for it? |
| 15:52.42 | gr1m-lap | nvidia blames the lack of a proper test suite for the xrender api |
| 15:53.13 | serenity | gr1m-lap: kde4 should become their suite for this ;) |
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| 15:56.15 | Phlogi | kbluetooth4-devicemanager |
| 15:56.15 | Phlogi | QDBusObjectPath: invalid path "" |
| 15:56.15 | Phlogi | process 27780: arguments to dbus_message_new_method_call() were incorrect, assertion "path != NULL" failed in file dbus-message.c line 1070. |
| 15:56.15 | Phlogi | I can't start kbluetooth4-devicemanager... any idea why? |
| 15:56.21 | Half-Left | gr1m-lap: Only the fact that nvidia should have known about well over a Qt4 a year ago |
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| 15:58.16 | gr1m-lap | Half-Left: ya I'm a bit annoyed myself. It's one reason I'm really looking forward to intels larrabee |
| 15:58.38 | Half-Left | gr1m-lap: Like Vista, they dropped the ball |
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| 15:59.16 | Half-Left | nv xorg driver wasn't slow so |
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| 15:59.41 | gr1m-lap | nouveau is making nice progress, but 3d is still experimental |
| 16:00.05 | Half-Left | Well atleast the beta's are better |
| 16:00.42 | gr1m-lap | I think I've heard running kde4 in xgl running on x.org w/ nvidia works well |
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| 16:01.14 | gr1m-lap | though it has the nasty stench of hacka ll over it |
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| 16:02.46 | Phlogi | hm maybe someone knows an alternative bluetooth gui? |
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| 16:04.09 | gr1m-lap | Phlogi: suse gave me kbluetooth which pretty much worked out of the box. Beyond clicking on my phone and clicking on "OBEX File Transfer Profile" I'm not sure how it works |
| 16:04.58 | gr1m-lap | your phone must support the bluetooth ftp profile though |
| 16:05.06 | gr1m-lap | surprisingly few phones do |
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| 16:05.46 | gr1m-lap | in the US sprint is the only carrier I know of that doesn't disable it, and other big phones (e.g. the iphone) just don't support it at all |
| 16:06.19 | Phlogi | gr1m-lap: is it the old one maybe from kde3? |
| 16:06.31 | Phlogi | gr1m-lap: I'm sure it does |
| 16:06.37 | gr1m-lap | hm.. yes I do still run kde3 |
| 16:06.39 | Phlogi | as my phone is the htc g1 with android :) |
| 16:06.43 | gr1m-lap | sometimes I forget other people run 4 |
| 16:06.45 | harald | Does KDE4.2 provide some tool for moni6oring the status of an UMTS modem (internal USB modem) -- a tool besides knetwork? |
| 16:06.47 | Phlogi | gr1m-lap: hehe ok I was asking about kde4 |
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| 16:10.14 | gr1m-lap | bluetooth ftp is awesome though. sometimes I don't even know where my phone is and I'm uploading music to it |
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| 16:13.38 | localh0st | Half-Left: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIe_uTG_iw0 |
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| 16:13.49 | localh0st | Look at this my video |
| 16:13.56 | localh0st | Which i record while ago |
| 16:14.53 | Half-Left | looks ok to me |
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| 16:21.51 | localh0st | Slowly window showing is in eg. 24 second |
| 16:22.21 | localh0st | When i maximized Opera window |
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| 16:34.10 | jo-fluff | hello, I'm trying to build KDE 4 svn on arklinux 2008. I've built the kde support but when I try to build kdelibs it says "make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found. Stop." |
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| 16:35.27 | thiago_home | have you run cmake? |
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| 16:36.41 | jo-fluff | yes that's what I tried, I was going through the instructions at the text base, I typed cmakekde and that's wat I got, it also gave an error about cmake_minimum being required but I don't think that's why it isn't building. |
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| 16:37.43 | cumulus007 | Hi, I just clicked on the "what's this" button and then clicked on an element in a program. KDE noticed me there isn't a what's this description available for the selected element. I got the option to suggest a description, I did so. |
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| 16:37.54 | soa2ii | Are there still some performance lecks with kde4 and nvidia cards? Can someone give me official infos for fixes and workarounds if the performance is not so good :/ ? |
| 16:38.26 | cumulus007 | But.... I'm getting this mail now: |
| 16:38.27 | thiago_home | what's a "leck" ? |
| 16:38.39 | cumulus007 | "" |
| 16:38.41 | cumulus007 | Hi. This is the qmail-send program at ktown.kde.org. |
| 16:38.42 | cumulus007 | I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following addresses. |
| 16:38.44 | cumulus007 | This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out. |
| 16:38.45 | cumulus007 | <kde-usability-issues@kde.org>: |
| 16:38.54 | soa2ii | thiago_home: excuse my bad english... |
| 16:39.03 | cumulus007 | so the adress my suggestion is sent to doesn't work anymore |
| 16:39.14 | cumulus007 | soa2ii: what's your native language? |
| 16:39.23 | jo-fluff | here is the output http://rafb.net/p/5D1Vre89.html |
| 16:39.35 | thiago_home | soa2ii: performance is working fine with KDE 4.2 and the NVidia 180 (beta) drivers |
| 16:39.38 | soa2ii | I meant the graphical effects are really slow sometimes... adjusting the column width in kmail was really slow. |
| 16:39.42 | soa2ii | cumulus007: german. |
| 16:40.01 | soa2ii | thiago_home: Hm. I just installed 4.1.3 |
| 16:40.10 | pinotree | jo-fluff: read line 3 of your paste |
| 16:40.10 | soa2ii | So I'll have to wait? (: |
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| 16:40.29 | jo-fluff | I see |
| 16:40.31 | cumulus007 | jo-fluff: you need a more recent version of CMake |
| 16:40.37 | cumulus007 | do you use Kubuntu? |
| 16:40.43 | jo-fluff | alrighty, no |
| 16:40.44 | jo-fluff | Ark |
| 16:40.54 | cumulus007 | Kubuntu doesn't have a newer version of Cmake in the repos |
| 16:40.58 | cumulus007 | ah |
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| 16:41.58 | jo-fluff | alright ,I'll see if I can build the newer version of cmake thanks |
| 16:42.06 | thiago_home | soa2ii: no, you can try it for yourself |
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| 16:43.49 | lord-carlos | Hi |
| 16:44.03 | soa2ii | Kontact just crashed: http://rafb.net/p/ESghAb44.html Is that smth new for you? (: During logout kopete always crashes, too. |
| 16:44.16 | lord-carlos | Some one know where ktorrent keeps his *.torrent files? |
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| 16:44.49 | smurfie | lord-carlos: look in $KDEHOME/share/apps/ktorrent |
| 16:44.57 | madsdyd | anyone know why I get this: KLocalePrivate::initEncoding: Cannot resolve system encoding, defaulting to ISO 8859-1. |
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| 16:46.00 | sparr | how can i disable the graphical dropdown in the alt+f2 dialog? |
| 16:46.06 | lord-carlos | smurfie: nope, its not there |
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| 16:46.42 | thiago_home | madsdyd: what's your locale? |
| 16:46.49 | smurfie | then it'ss be in your tmp |
| 16:46.55 | madsdyd | da_UTF8 or something, hang on |
| 16:47.09 | lord-carlos | locate .torrent also does not find anything |
| 16:47.12 | madsdyd | LANG=da_DK.UTF-8 |
| 16:47.23 | madsdyd | thiago_home: LANG=da_DK.UTF-8 |
| 16:48.04 | thiago_home | if you run "ls lkasjalskjdlaj", does it tell you in Danish that the file is not found? |
| 16:48.29 | madsdyd | thiago_home: yes (although I usually test with cat) |
| 16:48.30 | madsdyd | :-) |
| 16:48.52 | madsdyd | thiago_home: I tried with KDE_UTF8_FILENAMES=1 |
| 16:48.56 | madsdyd | did not change anything for me |
| 16:48.58 | thiago_home | KDE only supports UTF-8 now |
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| 16:49.23 | madsdyd | thiago_home: please explain - does that mean that da_DK.UTF-8 is not supported? |
| 16:49.39 | madsdyd | And "now" - I am running a kde 4 program under kde 3.5.10 |
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| 16:52.05 | thiago_home | madsdyd: no, it means it's supported |
| 16:52.11 | thiago_home | and "now" is KDE 4 |
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| 16:52.53 | madsdyd | thiago_home: OK, how about running a kde4 (kdenlive 0.7) under kde3.5.10 - should I get this message in that case? |
| 16:53.50 | thiago_home | no, that message shouldn't appear |
| 16:53.56 | thiago_home | it means there's a problem somewhere |
| 16:54.09 | thiago_home | I looked at the code, I don't know what the problem could be |
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| 16:57.15 | madsdyd | thiago_home: I do get some weird stuff out of "locale charmap" |
| 16:57.33 | madsdyd | at least I do sometimes |
| 16:57.38 | madsdyd | (which is weird) |
| 16:57.41 | madsdyd | Sometimes I get |
| 16:57.58 | madsdyd | locale: Cannot set LC_ALL to default locale: No such file or directory |
| 16:57.58 | madsdyd | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:58.10 | madsdyd | which is wrong. Could kde be picking this up? |
| 16:59.02 | madsdyd | thiago_home: bad timing in my end, will have to serve dinner now, will check it out again, thanks for all the help |
| 17:02.00 | pano | can someone help me by providing a better debug ouput to my klipper bug? |
| 17:02.15 | pano | http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=177157 |
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| 17:04.58 | zubair | #Fedora |
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| 17:11.49 | sredna | just realized that he can set the spelling dictionary pr KMail identity, which is immensely cool - a BIG thank you to the kmail developers! |
| 17:12.28 | thiago_home | just? |
| 17:12.34 | thiago_home | I've been using that feature for years :-) |
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| 17:14.15 | sredna | thiago_home: really? anyway it is very nice :) |
| 17:14.27 | cumulus007 | KMail's spelling control is annyoing - it checks the spelling while I'm typing, which results in typing lag |
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| 17:14.49 | sredna | I may have used it too though, since the reason was that I got tired with red underlinings, and looked into it :) |
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| 17:27.45 | samirnassar | I am trying to connect to google talk using Kubuntu Intrepids Kopete. I followed the Google instructions but only get connection problems. |
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| 17:35.05 | Oripi | Hi |
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| 17:38.08 | Oripi | Is there a plan for a "Front row"-like for KDE ? I really find this amazing when I visit a friend with a mac (especially with the remote). |
| 17:39.04 | samirnassar | Oripi: for the most part I doubt that there is a planning committee that sets out goals like that. |
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| 17:39.28 | pinotree | what is front raw? |
| 17:39.44 | Oripi | it's a kind of media center |
| 17:40.16 | samirnassar | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Front_Row_(software) |
| 17:40.46 | Oripi | saminassar: I don't understand your answer... sorry, english isn't my native language |
| 17:41.20 | Oripi | what are you saying by "goals like that" |
| 17:41.28 | pinotree | Oripi: you mean like http://www.mythtv.org ? |
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| 17:41.58 | Oripi | a little bit like that, but more integrated with KDE, and less heavy... |
| 17:42.25 | Hydrogen | theres plans for a mediacenter interface in plasma, long etrm |
| 17:42.38 | junkDawgie | sounds like myth |
| 17:43.01 | Oripi | Hydrogen: ok cool to know that it is planned |
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| 17:43.28 | samirnassar | Oripi: keep in mind that he also said long term. :) |
| 17:43.57 | Hydrogen | I'm guessing 4.3 or 4.4 |
| 17:43.58 | Hydrogen | but not sure |
| 17:44.26 | Oripi | saminassar: yes I know, but KDE just rocks, and I can live without that, but knowing that this feature will come is enough for me |
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| 17:46.13 | samirnassar | Oripi: heh heh. In that case, enjoy |
| 17:46.22 | Oripi | And also, is there a way to use Okular more like quick-view in Leopard (just one keyboard shortcut and you get a quick preview of the file without any menu bar or tool bar). |
| 17:46.57 | Oripi | (sorry, i'm very specific...) |
| 17:47.02 | pinotree | nope |
| 17:47.26 | Oripi | ok, thanks |
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| 17:48.40 | serenity | Oripi: but you have a preview in dolphin and a nice slider on increase size of the preview |
| 17:49.24 | serenity | on==to |
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| 17:51.07 | Oripi | serenity: currently with my KDE 4.1.3 this preview seems to work only with small images (<5 Mo i guess), and is very slow... but my PC is quite old... |
| 17:51.34 | Oripi | and not with PDFs or ODF files |
| 17:51.58 | serenity | Oripi: you can set the size how big files might be to get shown. |
| 17:51.59 | samirnassar | Oripi: there are people who can probably exaplin it better, but rendering images is related to processor speed and memory |
| 17:53.40 | Oripi | semirnassar: Ok, so my 1.6GHz Centrino and my 1Go RAM seems not to be enough... |
| 17:53.56 | Oripi | and what about PDFs and ODF files ? |
| 17:54.41 | pinotree | the pdf thumbnailer is available in kdegraphics |
| 17:55.09 | cumulus007 | why doesn't dolphin produce thumbnails of odt files? |
| 17:55.53 | cumulus007 | I just opened a OO.o file in Ark, and I saw a folder called Thumbnail |
| 17:56.05 | caotic | can sombody hook me up with a default "/home/<SOMEUSER>/.kde4/share/config/kateschemarc" |
| 17:56.12 | cumulus007 | it contains a thumbnail image, so implentation of this is easy |
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| 17:56.37 | Oripi | if fact when I over a PDF file the system seems to compute but no thumbnail is shown... maybe my OpenSUSE isn't well packaged |
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| 17:57.51 | cumulus007 | caotic: I don't have that file ... |
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| 17:58.11 | Roey | hi |
| 17:58.22 | Roey | hi |
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| 17:58.24 | Roey | <Roey> why doesn't dolphin (4.1) show me icons for the jpegs I just copied to my hard drive? |
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| 17:58.26 | Roey | <Roey> even though view mode is on Thumbnails |
| 17:58.30 | Oripi | cumulus007: in my Dolphin when I over a OO.o file I see a blank sheet of paper with "PK" in it... maybe the implementation is a work in progress |
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| 17:59.32 | Oripi | Roey: maybe the maximum file size for thumbnailing is too low, see on Dolphin settings |
| 17:59.36 | caotic | :S |
| 17:59.49 | caotic | cumulus007: do you use kate ? |
| 18:00.06 | caotic | cumulus007: just run it, and it should be generated |
| 18:00.24 | Oripi | caotic: I've got one if you want |
| 18:00.37 | Oripi | caotic: how can I send it to you ? |
| 18:00.57 | caotic | Oripi: paste with nopaste |
| 18:01.24 | caotic | http://www.rafb.net/paste/ |
| 18:02.09 | Oripi | http://rafb.net/p/NJJGOU12.html |
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| 18:02.49 | caotic | thank youy Oripi |
| 18:02.53 | Roey | Oripi: ok |
| 18:02.57 | Roey | why is kde so rough like this |
| 18:03.05 | Roey | and why is gwenview so unintuitive now |
| 18:03.06 | Roey | jeez. |
| 18:03.08 | Oripi | caotic: you're welcome |
| 18:03.28 | Oripi | Roey: why do you mean by rough ? |
| 18:03.46 | Roey | as in |
| 18:04.56 | Roey | why does it not put on the status bar at the bottom in orange or red "some image thumbnails might not appear be4cause their thumbnail would exceed the image size threshold. Click [here] to change threshold" |
| 18:05.56 | Roey | Oripi: also, where do you set maximum file size for previews? Certainly not in Dolphin 4.1.. I just checked |
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| 18:06.45 | Oripi | Roey: I have it in my Dolphin from KDE 4.1.3 |
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| 18:07.12 | Roey | Oripi: 4.1.2 here |
| 18:07.13 | Roey | ok. |
| 18:07.46 | Oripi | and warning a user for a matter of thumbnails is a little hard I think... thumbnailing isn't a critical feature... |
| 18:08.17 | Oripi | Roey: I think that this option was already here since KDE 4.1.0... |
| 18:09.28 | Roey | not here ;) |
| 18:09.33 | Roey | a little hard? |
| 18:09.39 | Roey | thumbnail not a criticial feature? |
| 18:09.43 | Roey | I didn't say it was critical |
| 18:09.45 | Roey | but this is annoying |
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| 18:11.18 | Oripi | I don't know... i'm not a KDE developper, but for me a message to let me know that some thumbnails aren't working is not good... it's like "too much information"... |
| 18:11.43 | serenity | when you integrate this, you also have to integrate "some files might not be visible, because they start with a dot. Unhide them?" |
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| 18:12.31 | serenity | it's no much information as Oripi saif |
| 18:12.36 | serenity | -f +d |
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| 18:13.40 | Oripi | I have to go, thank you for all your answers ! |
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| 18:25.08 | Sleep_Walker | is present anyone of KBugBuster developers? |
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| 18:30.50 | mschiff | Sould I submit bug reports for crashes in kde 4.2 beta1? |
| 18:31.06 | mschiff | (with BTs) |
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| 18:33.10 | cumulus007 | mschiff: why not |
| 18:34.54 | Roey | ok |
| 18:34.54 | Roey | hi |
| 18:35.09 | Roey | Neither Dolphin nor Konqueror display previews for images |
| 18:35.11 | Roey | this is so annoying :( |
| 18:35.55 | shepherd | how can I install more themes like oxygen or keramic |
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| 18:36.53 | lada | Hi, a question about KMail, Certificates (KDE4)... |
| 18:37.27 | lada | I have a SMTP server that uses TLS with a self-signed certificate. And KMail prompts every time it connects to the server, complaining about the certificate. |
| 18:37.56 | lada | Even if I click "Accept" and "Forever", the prompt pops-up next time I send an email. Any ideas what I could do differently? |
| 18:38.41 | gr1m-lap | hmm, can't say I experience the same behavior |
| 18:38.55 | gr1m-lap | kmail hasn't prompted me about my mail servers self signed certificate in a long time |
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| 18:39.10 | sredna | shepherd: visit kde-looks.org. if you don't want to compile them yourself, you will probably be able to find binary packagrs for the most popular nes |
| 18:39.12 | sredna | .9 |
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| 18:41.16 | lada | gr1m-lap: I experience this behaviour on two machines, both Ubuntu (8.04, 8.10) |
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| 18:42.05 | gr1m-lap | dunno what to tell ya :/ I'm not even sure how kde stores certificates you tell it to always accept |
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| 18:42.32 | lada | That was going to be my next question... where does KDE store the bloody things. :) |
| 18:42.38 | mschiff | cumulus007: maybe because noone does care? ;) |
| 18:43.00 | cumulus007 | mschiff: of course they care |
| 18:43.00 | mschiff | cumulus007: but I did it now |
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| 18:44.06 | Roey | god dman it |
| 18:44.10 | Roey | kde 4 is useless for me |
| 18:44.12 | Roey | brb |
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| 18:44.38 | xenol | Roey: i said also first time i used it, later i changed my mind |
| 18:44.40 | warpedby0 | Roey: not for me, it's very stable |
| 18:45.16 | sredna | lada: the information about accepting it is likely somewhere in ~/.kde4/share/configuration. The certificate is probably somewhere in ~/.kde4/share/apps (maybe in the kssl dir?) |
| 18:45.17 | xenol | warpedby0: it maybe stable, but still not perfect with stability |
| 18:46.26 | warpedby0 | xenol: it still didn't crash on my system |
| 18:46.43 | xenol | warpedby0: lucky guy |
| 18:46.51 | warpedby0 | xenol: lucky why? |
| 18:46.52 | sredna | we are nearing beta state :p |
| 18:46.55 | xenol | anyone knows when should be amarok2 out? |
| 18:47.09 | xenol | warpedby0: i got several plasma crashes |
| 18:48.13 | sredna | xenol: i read a blog today starting with "Amarok 2.0 has been tagged" |
| 18:48.35 | otay | Any word when global shortcuts will be fixed? |
| 18:48.43 | warpedby0 | xenol: i see, that's very unfortunate, those crashes can be caused by many things, anyways i still didn't observe any crashes :) |
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| 18:50.10 | sredna | rarely have crashes, and usually not caused by core kde components |
| 18:50.27 | otay | also, if a person doesn't want to use Dolphin, can we get a version of Konqueror with 'Storage Media'? |
| 18:50.32 | warpedby0 | i'm getting realy bored with peope saying kde 4.1.x is very unstable etc, that's just not true, check your compiler flags, or maybe the quality of your packages |
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| 18:51.08 | sredna | otay: there are few URLs that konqueror does not handle |
| 18:51.08 | warpedby0 | or try to fix the problem instead on complaning how unstable kde is |
| 18:51.26 | feindbild | otay: konqueror has 'storage Media' for a very long time ... |
| 18:51.30 | sredna | otay: it surely understands media:/ |
| 18:51.49 | otay | I don't see it in KDE4 |
| 18:52.02 | feindbild | otay: on kde3 that is :P |
| 18:52.23 | feindbild | try to enter storage:/ as URI |
| 18:52.35 | feindbild | sorry ... : media:/ |
| 18:52.42 | otay | ahh, I never thought of that |
| 18:53.09 | otay | I'll have to wait until I get to my KDE4 computer to test it :) |
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| 18:53.17 | xenol | warpedby0: i didnt say i had any problems with kde 4.1.x, but defining something very stable only trying it on your pc is kinda obsolete. |
| 18:53.20 | serenity | does anyone of you know a good nassi-shneidermann-editor? |
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| 18:53.34 | feindbild | otay: ... it works on kde3 ... |
| 18:54.00 | sredna | serenity: a what?? |
| 18:54.42 | serenity | a editor for creating nassi-shneidermann-diagrams |
| 18:55.00 | warpedby0 | serenity: google |
| 18:55.04 | feindbild | serenity: http://sourceforge.net/projects/pynassi/ |
| 18:55.22 | serenity | feindbild: doesn't work |
| 18:55.39 | feindbild | serenity: it does for me :P |
| 18:55.41 | feindbild | serenity: http://structorizer.fisch.lu/ |
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| 18:56.30 | otay | well, on kde3's Konqueror, I have "Storage Media" on my sidebar. So I can just click to mount my drives. So if I type system:/media right now, it gives me what I want. I haven't tried that on KDE4 though. I just noticed they took out the "Storage Media" button from the sidebar on the new Konqueror |
| 18:57.22 | otay | (in file mode of course) |
| 18:57.39 | otay | (file management mode ) |
| 18:59.12 | otay | I wonder what happens if I add system:/media as a url in the new Konqueror. |
| 18:59.12 | bittin | ^/wi1 |
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| 19:06.29 | U-boot92 | I have wondered for some time now.. why isn't mplayer included by default in kde? |
| 19:06.43 | U-boot92 | why some programs like amarok use xine as backend |
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| 19:07.28 | Hydrogen | how are the two at all related? |
| 19:07.31 | feindbild | U-boot92: because xine is available as a lib I kguess :P |
| 19:08.17 | U-boot92 | Hydrogen, these two along with vlc are the contesters for the linux dektop |
| 19:08.35 | Hydrogen | as well as gstreamer |
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| 19:08.45 | Hydrogen | but kde doesn't author any of them |
| 19:08.47 | hanzzz_ | hello, where can I find a RPM package (openSUSE11, KDE 4.1) for KCometen4? |
| 19:08.49 | Hydrogen | so why should kde ship any of them? |
| 19:08.52 | U-boot92 | gstreamer.. not a player and uses gtk+ lbs |
| 19:09.04 | U-boot92 | *libs |
| 19:09.19 | feindbild | Hydrogen: it doesn't ship any of them |
| 19:09.53 | Hydrogen | right |
| 19:09.57 | Hydrogen | my question is |
| 19:10.00 | Hydrogen | to U-boot92 |
| 19:10.35 | Hydrogen | U-boot92: kde doesn't ship any of those options as a player, so you're arguement is just as invalid |
| 19:10.36 | U-boot92 | I suppose the have been for a while out there |
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| 19:10.53 | U-boot92 | well but amarok is based on xine |
| 19:11.00 | U-boot92 | why not for examlpe on mplayer |
| 19:11.42 | feindbild | lol ... amarok isn't based on xine |
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| 19:12.02 | feindbild | and as I said before, mplayer isn't available as lib |
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| 19:12.04 | pinotree | hanzzz_: you should ask in #opensuse |
| 19:12.21 | Hydrogen | amarok used xine as a backend |
| 19:12.26 | Hydrogen | because it was the most capable at the time |
| 19:12.35 | Hydrogen | it's all relatively moot in kde4/amarok2 |
| 19:12.40 | Hydrogen | as everything uses phonon |
| 19:13.19 | U-boot92 | oh I see |
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| 19:13.45 | Half-Left | yay, phonon saves the day |
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| 19:14.06 | Hydrogen | and phonon has stable xine and gstreamer backends on linux |
| 19:14.12 | Hydrogen | with backends in devleopment for vlc and mplayer |
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| 19:27.57 | skatar | a small question for the kde4 users and/or develpers: what about animated wallpapers? |
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| 19:32.41 | gr1m-lap | I do believe that is the worst idea I've ever heard :/ |
| 19:32.56 | gr1m-lap | bad enough when used on websites.. but as a desktop wallpaper? :/ |
| 19:33.00 | serenity | gr1m-lap: but not so far away |
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| 19:33.27 | serenity | i heard rumours, that this will be included |
| 19:33.29 | skatar | gr1m-lap: about my idea? |
| 19:33.48 | skatar | think about a wallpaper that is fulled by stars during the night |
| 19:34.05 | skatar | and sunning (does it exist?) during the day |
| 19:35.07 | shikamaru | hi there |
| 19:35.37 | shikamaru | can someone explain me how does konqueror extensions works? |
| 19:35.48 | sredna | skatar: i think i saw a video player plasmoid today |
| 19:36.08 | sredna | shikamaru: what sort of extensions? |
| 19:36.09 | serenity | another wish: amarok should recognize in what mood i am and plasma will change wallpaper and theme according |
| 19:36.12 | skatar | sredna: it's a different thing |
| 19:36.32 | shikamaru | sredna: well i'd be glad if I could add flash support with gnash/swfdec/whatever |
| 19:36.59 | shikamaru | but I don't see how to get konqueror find these |
| 19:37.02 | sredna | shikamaru: just install flash plugin, and make sure konqueror searches the firefox plugin dirs |
| 19:37.32 | sredna | shikamaru: and do not expect the 64bit flash plugin to work yet, although the rumor says it will in kde 4.2 |
| 19:37.35 | shikamaru | I think it doesn't but I don't see where to enable this |
| 19:37.53 | shikamaru | sredna: I'd prefer swfdec anyway |
| 19:38.08 | sredna | shikamaru: in the config dialog, there is a place for setting the search paths |
| 19:38.21 | shikamaru | well I used to have it yeah |
| 19:38.27 | shikamaru | but now I don't have it anymore |
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| 19:41.04 | shikamaru | my last tab in the options is java/javascript |
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| 19:42.36 | shikamaru | Maybe it's because I don't have ff installed |
| 19:42.45 | shikamaru | but I don't want it to be installed anyway |
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| 19:44.39 | shikamaru | hmmm I see |
| 19:44.49 | shikamaru | I think I need kde4-nsplugins package |
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| 19:45.28 | shikamaru | that's it :) |
| 19:45.38 | shikamaru | thanks sredna for trying to help me :) |
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| 19:48.22 | jo-fluff | i've built the new cmake but it's default directory is not the one I need, is there a way to change it from /usr/local/ with make install? if not how would i do it with cmake? |
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| 19:51.38 | stdin | jo-fluff: -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=/install/dir |
| 19:51.46 | jo-fluff | thanks |
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| 19:54.28 | jo-fluff | working now |
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| 20:10.51 | FiNeX | hi |
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| 20:11.17 | drantin | h'lo |
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| 20:15.44 | lada | sredna: Thanks, I will have a look |
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| 20:22.37 | johjoh | hello... i have a nvidia card with hardware acell on... tho, it seems translucency from kde won't turn on... xorg.conf seems fine... |
| 20:23.22 | Rasi | hmm |
| 20:23.29 | Rasi | what magic is kde doing to fonts rendering? |
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| 20:23.35 | Rasi | my java apps look fine in kde |
| 20:23.45 | Rasi | but crap if i use a simple WM |
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| 20:24.08 | Rasi | johjoh: if you start systemsettings from a terminal it should give errors |
| 20:24.32 | otay | the official KDE discussion board is looking good |
| 20:24.59 | johjoh | Rasi: hmmm... systemsettings is not installed... |
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| 20:25.15 | Rasi | johjoh: ehm... thats part of kdebase |
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| 20:25.47 | johjoh | Rasi: i know... i didn't installed kde fully... |
| 20:26.07 | Rasi | well you will surely have kdebase |
| 20:26.16 | Rasi | and if not, thats most likely your problem |
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| 20:26.33 | johjoh | Rasi: but seems like i didn't missed a lot of stuff... i mean... not the important stuff |
| 20:26.48 | caotic | why is konqueror web browser so slow for retriving webpages ? (for example :konkeror VS firefox) |
| 20:26.52 | johjoh | Rasi: i did followed a guide to that... |
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| 20:27.21 | Rasi | caotic: some claim it is faster.... but for me its slow too |
| 20:27.27 | Rasi | johjoh: a guide? |
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| 20:27.39 | Rasi | johjoh: your distribution has no kde4 packages? |
| 20:27.45 | Shaun_ | anyone been able to get flashplayer 64 beta to work on firefox in FC9?, I have YUM installed it but its still not appearing in my plugins |
| 20:27.47 | johjoh | Rasi: gentoo user here... they have guides for everything... |
| 20:27.57 | caotic | Rasi: some time ago I heard that it had to do with ipv6 or something, but cant really recall the argument |
| 20:28.03 | johjoh | Rasi: i use kde 3.5 cuz i don't want to change for 4.1 yet |
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| 20:28.13 | doctorwhite | everytime i reboot and log back in, my kde screensaver is not the default ssaver. is xscreensaver overriding it on reboot? |
| 20:28.18 | Rasi | johjoh: well they dont have a guide how to view the guides, which seem to be offline for months now :) |
| 20:28.23 | Rasi | always have to use google cache |
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| 20:28.42 | Rasi | johjoh: ah.. kde3 does not have systemsettings |
| 20:28.48 | Rasi | but kde3 doesnt have compositing either.... |
| 20:28.50 | johjoh | Rasi: wiki was offline.. true... but it went online this month |
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| 20:29.49 | johjoh | Rasi: on window behavior, inside my control center translucency tells me i have some error with xorg... but i double checked xorg options... |
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| 20:30.27 | johjoh | Rasi: it also tells me about a package that i didn't found on my tree... kompmgr |
| 20:30.30 | doctorwhite | how do i get kde's screensaver to be the default on every reboot? after a reboot, it doesnt start. i have to renable it. |
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| 20:31.20 | Shaun_ | sounds like a bug, your screensaver settings are being stored temp im having the same problem |
| 20:31.40 | Alphinux | Hi, im on F9 and I'm trying to set the KDE login manager but some how no matter which theme I choose I always get the default gnome manager one. Any ideas? |
| 20:31.52 | doctorwhite | Shaun_, what distro? |
| 20:32.09 | Rasi | johjoh: kompmgr comes with kwin |
| 20:32.13 | Rasi | or at least it should |
| 20:32.16 | Shaun_ | KDE is 4.1.3 and FC9 64 |
| 20:32.49 | doctorwhite | Shaun_, F10 64 here...btw its not FC, its F |
| 20:33.03 | Shaun_ | hehe cool i didnt know F10 was out |
| 20:33.10 | johjoh | Rasi: kwin is installed... tho, i use compiz and emerald... not kwin... |
| 20:33.17 | Shaun_ | will be getting that soon then |
| 20:33.21 | Rasi | johjoh: and there you have your problem |
| 20:33.30 | Rasi | the settings you want to enable are kwin settings |
| 20:33.39 | doctorwhite | Shaun_, oh yea recently came out. pretty good. |
| 20:33.46 | Rasi | you have to use the compiz manager to activate its own shadows/etc |
| 20:33.55 | Shaun_ | cool :D F9 was the first linux i used and i love it |
| 20:34.02 | johjoh | Rasi: lol? so i can't enable translucency on my windows? |
| 20:34.18 | Rasi | johjoh: doesnt compiz have its own settings for this? |
| 20:34.22 | Rasi | i would be surprised if not |
| 20:34.31 | johjoh | Rasi: let's see... |
| 20:34.36 | doctorwhite | Shaun_, F9 i liked a lot...F10 is pretty solid much faster on boot up |
| 20:34.59 | Rasi | johjoh: btw.. kde4 went to gentoo some time ago |
| 20:35.03 | Shaun_ | il upgrade to that soon :D just get my info transfered over |
| 20:35.16 | johjoh | Rasi: i know... kde4 is up and running on gentoo... |
| 20:35.38 | Shaun_ | my main reason i loved F9 was cause of the problems it caused me trying to just run, but by the time i had solved em all it had given me a nice understanding of the OS |
| 20:35.40 | johjoh | Rasi: i didn't installed tho... and i won't do it for some time... too unstable yet for me |
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| 20:36.34 | Rasi | johjoh: trunk for 4.2 is pretty good :) |
| 20:37.14 | Shaun_ | btw, sorry to ask, what is this chat room about? i'v just been looking around at some of the stuff KDE has and came accros this :P |
| 20:37.28 | johjoh | Rasi: the beta one? thx... but i think i'll wait till it gets to 4.4 or something like that... |
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| 20:37.57 | johjoh | Rasi: and i didn't found translucency on windows inside compiz... dunno if it can do it... tho, thx... =] |
| 20:38.15 | Shaun_ | hehe il leave u guys to your chat, time for F10 me thinks :D ty for telling me it is out |
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| 21:03.48 | jkrandom | (kde 4 plasma) |
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| 21:05.53 | Half-Left | jkrandom: version? |
| 21:07.15 | jkrandom | Problem seems related to autohide. Sometimes it can get stuck on one desktop. Sometimes going back to the desktop it's stuck on and hovering the mouse on it fixes the problem. Other times it's not visible on any desktop and I'm stuck using hot keys only for navigation, not sure if that's blessing or course - but still. Erm... sec |
| 21:07.24 | jkrandom | KDE: 4.1.3 (KDE 4.1.3) |
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| 21:09.03 | Half-Left | jkrandom: You have autohide on that your distro backported? |
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| 21:10.36 | jkrandom | if i unlock the taskbar widgets, click on the little settings icon on the right, select the "more settings" option, under visibility there is an option called "Autohide" |
| 21:10.59 | jkrandom | make that "Auto hide" |
| 21:11.25 | jkrandom | that's not a standard option? |
| 21:11.52 | Half-Left | Not in 4.1 no |
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| 21:12.56 | Half-Left | jkrandom: Like I said, your distro backported it from 4.2 |
| 21:12.57 | jkrandom | then Fedora probably back ported it and that's probably why it isn't 100% reliable. is there any command i can use to restart the task bar as I'd like to keep it on and can live with restarting the task bar |
| 21:13.39 | Half-Left | it's upto them to maintain it |
| 21:14.22 | jkrandom | yes i agree, they need to maintain it. is there any command that *I* can use to restart the task bar when it crashes? nobody is blaming KDE or filing a bug report :) |
| 21:14.45 | Half-Left | no because it's part of the plasma process |
| 21:14.45 | picca | is there a way to remove the suspend to disk option on kpowersave for kde 3.5.x |
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| 21:14.52 | jkrandom | ok thanks |
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| 21:16.22 | jkrandom | now QT is going multi-platform have you guys ever thought about ditching X completely and building an OS to support QT from the ground up? no need for buggy code or horrid workarounds for arcane X11 artifacts... it could be to linux what OS X was to BSD :) |
| 21:16.28 | Half-Left | jkrandom: You can close widgets from the panel but the main panel itself is best restarted by kquitapp plasma |
| 21:17.01 | jkrandom | I mean GUI platform not OS of course |
| 21:17.08 | Half-Left | Alt, F2 to restart plasma |
| 21:17.14 | Half-Left | from krunner |
| 21:17.44 | jkrandom | that works fine half-left, thanks a lot |
| 21:17.59 | Half-Left | np |
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| 21:21.51 | acid93 | what do a lot of people use if not KDE or GNOME? |
| 21:22.07 | jkrandom | they usually use those strange minimalist things like fluxbox |
| 21:22.15 | jkrandom | or another platform like... windowes |
| 21:22.37 | sredna | acid93: there is this thing called windows... and something called mac... oh, and xfce, open*, e17... |
| 21:22.51 | lilltiger | cli |
| 21:22.57 | acid93 | i meant like XFCE |
| 21:23.00 | jkrandom | what's a mac? i'm a pc and this is my office |
| 21:23.00 | acid93 | LXDE |
| 21:23.06 | sredna | and some very exotic DEs that you didn't dream of... |
| 21:23.34 | jkrandom | those adverts are only run in this country huh? lucky you |
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| 21:24.22 | Half-Left | 'Hello, I'm a PC and I have to get a Mac to do my work' |
| 21:24.27 | jkrandom | lol |
| 21:24.30 | lilltiger | pc is an personal computer including commandore c64/128, amiga, macintoch, x86, vic-20 and alot others the term PC is soo missused |
| 21:24.53 | jkrandom | lilltiger, that's like saying a bandaid has to be made by johnson and johnson |
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| 21:25.19 | jkrandom | language changes! |
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| 21:25.28 | lilltiger | jkrandom: i dont know what bandaid is and nor what company you are refering to.. :p |
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| 21:26.36 | jkrandom | lilltiger, it was an example of "genericide" where a term originally meant one brand name, but is now used to mean all products of that type. "PC" is just that in reverse, now PC means Intel compatibles. It was more general years ago but how people use the word changes it's meaning. |
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| 21:28.42 | jkrandom | how QT took over the world and broke the bill gates foundation. 1) multiplatform support (very clever) that) 2) Build a QT based Office Suite that can be used in place of Microsoft Office (and now run on windows too of course) 3) get rid of X11 on linux and build something flashy with accelerated gfx that just runs QT apps. 4) run marketing campaign |
| 21:29.40 | pinotree | ... no words ... |
| 21:29.56 | Half-Left | QT, QuickTime? |
| 21:30.16 | Sput | yeah I kept wondering |
| 21:30.20 | lilltiger | jkrandom: actually no, PC does not mean intel comp. at all unlike what meny stupid people seems to think, it's not an "genericide" it's just an missues of an term by stupid people that does not know the difference. |
| 21:30.26 | Sput | lilltiger: he left |
| 21:30.31 | jo-fluff | trolltech qt |
| 21:30.35 | lilltiger | aww |
| 21:30.38 | mld21 | nas |
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| 21:32.27 | lilltiger | QT is by far the worse thing that have ever emerged from the depths of apple, it's worse then Flash! |
| 21:32.36 | Half-Left | I dont think QuickTime will get us anywhere :) |
| 21:32.45 | Sput | yeah QT sucks big time |
| 21:32.48 | jo-fluff | www.trolltech.com they probably mean that qt |
| 21:32.57 | Sput | and it failed on world domination |
| 21:33.37 | Half-Left | jo-fluff: Stop spamming, never hear of them :p |
| 21:34.04 | jo-fluff | sorry |
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| 21:34.19 | lilltiger | jo-fluff: way to off-topic, please keep in line here! |
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| 21:34.25 | Half-Left | LOL |
| 21:35.34 | Half-Left | lilltiger: Yer trolltech sounds like a place where they make hi-tech trolls |
| 21:35.38 | lilltiger | cups seems to work very well now adays :D |
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| 21:35.59 | aka_BillGatesII | http://soft.mail.ru/award2008/programs.php?id=61852 GNU GPL ReactOS needs your help |
| 21:36.05 | lilltiger | Half-Left: I bet they are responsible for the spamming bots that invade freenode :) |
| 21:36.15 | Half-Left | haha |
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| 21:36.29 | aka_BillGatesII | im not a bot |
| 21:36.52 | pinotree | just enough human to understand to go away on yourself |
| 21:36.52 | aka_BillGatesII | )) |
| 21:36.54 | Half-Left | Staue your question Bill |
| 21:37.08 | Half-Left | state* |
| 21:37.09 | aka_BillGatesII | yes |
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| 21:37.24 | aka_BillGatesII | may be few minits |
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| 21:37.49 | benbloom | ok-- I have to say this. and I know it's pointless to even say and may even be offtopic, but KDE4 is AWEFULL!! it seems to combine all the things that are suck about both Windows and OSX (esp. lack of flexibility and intuitive use) without being familiar enough to be easily adopted by someone who has worked with any WM or OS. Why is Ubuntu not supporting KDE3 in intrepid. and what has happened to the development of KDE that it has gone |
| 21:37.52 | benbloom | so terribly wrong! |
| 21:38.17 | Half-Left | lol |
| 21:38.23 | aka_BillGatesII | lol |
| 21:38.26 | lilltiger | Damn spent a while looking for settings in kde4 to setup my printer.. when it was automagicaly already avaible to all progs throught cups :) |
| 21:38.33 | Half-Left | Ubuntu supporting KDE eh |
| 21:38.45 | Half-Left | Thats a new one |
| 21:38.48 | aka_BillGatesII | i like fedora |
| 21:38.51 | bonsaikitten | oh, ubuntu KDE is not the KDE everyone else knows |
| 21:38.59 | bonsaikitten | they "improve" it. |
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| 21:39.11 | sredna | lilltiger: printing support is one the missing links that makes kde4 s0 awfull :-) |
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| 21:39.33 | lilltiger | bonsaikitten: "It's advanced!" |
| 21:39.39 | sredna | keeps a few kde3 apps around, amongst other for the benefit of kdeprint ;) |
| 21:39.54 | Half-Left | benbloom: Before you start ranting off about things get your facts straight first |
| 21:40.03 | benbloom | is that right? so the new Kubuntu is not a good representation of KDE4? I enjoy KDE3 on Kubuntu 8.04. |
| 21:40.27 | benbloom | well feel free to set me straight Half-Left |
| 21:40.30 | Half-Left | It's THEIR version, nothing more |
| 21:40.39 | lilltiger | sredna: no it works great, i just thought i had to mess around to get kde to use cups but i dident have to do anything it justs works and works great |
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| 21:41.13 | bonsaikitten | lilltiger: removing functionality is not advanced |
| 21:41.18 | sredna | lilltiger: mh, as long as you are within the reach of a cups server everything is fine :) |
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| 21:41.39 | glen__ | my kontact has gone ccrazy and looping forever over Contacts creating trash it can't handle later: http://pld.pastebin.com/d19f358b4 |
| 21:41.41 | bonsaikitten | benbloom: I use gentoo at home, kubuntu at work. The Ubuntu interpretation of KDE is quite a lot worse |
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| 21:41.53 | glen__ | kde 4.1.81 |
| 21:41.53 | lilltiger | bonsaikitten: ohh i guess you never seen "Invader Zim" |
| 21:41.55 | sredna | why not kubuntu then? |
| 21:42.25 | bonsaikitten | lilltiger: no, and I have a limited tolerance of stupid ;) |
| 21:42.29 | benbloom | ah bonsaikitten. is that Kubuntu 8.10 (intrepid)? |
| 21:42.37 | sredna | glen__: that would be a unstable version :) |
| 21:42.47 | Half-Left | Ubuntu is a distro, different people make Kubuntu |
| 21:43.02 | lilltiger | sredna: mm last time i fiddle with printersit was an hell in linux.. but that was like 7 years ago, now it was to easy :) |
| 21:43.18 | drantin | "It's not stupid, it's advanced!" |
| 21:43.28 | drantin | "Ooooh..." |
| 21:43.29 | lilltiger | mmm ;D |
| 21:43.38 | benbloom | lol drantin |
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| 21:43.43 | sredna | lilltiger: with kde 3, it is easier to find and configure printers in a windows environment than it is with windows :-) |
| 21:44.44 | glen__ | sredna, so? if nothing is going to be taken against it, it will be in stable version too! |
| 21:45.12 | sredna | lilltiger: unfortunately kdeprint has been discontinued, but printing is still quite easy. just in the windows env the easy scanning is missing. |
| 21:45.17 | lilltiger | sredna: only thing that fails to work is the scanner on my MFP but that cos i use the printer as an ethernet printer and not usb.. :) |
| 21:45.18 | Half-Left | benbloom: Kubuntu, canonical have their own agenda, their own version of KDE which I may add I wouldn't recommend |
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| 21:46.04 | sredna | glen__: absolutely :) |
| 21:46.05 | Half-Left | But thats just my view, use it abuse it |
| 21:46.40 | glen__ | sredna, so perhaps take something against it? |
| 21:47.15 | glen__ | for example Contacts/cur contains 33mb of 110byte files, all contain just email headers |
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| 21:48.36 | sredna | glen__: for that, file bug reports or mail the mailing list, or use the development channel or the application specific channel. In here chances are that your experiences are wasted, as your chances for meeting kdepim developers in here are relavively low :) |
| 21:49.37 | glen__ | i've seen low interest in bugs |
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| 21:50.10 | glen__ | as like i don't know what i should file, and nobody asks for more information, and so the bugs remain pointless |
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| 21:50.28 | glen__ | ...98M 516byte files in Contacts/cur |
| 21:52.37 | glen__ | or do you think i should file and file and file the bugs, even nobody takes care of the bugs? |
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| 21:54.32 | benbloom | Half-Left: I actually appreciate your view. hence my rant. what I'm taking from it is that if I want to use KDE4 I should switch to a different distro? |
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| 21:57.05 | Half-Left | benbloom: Try a distros thats as close to KDE4.1 as possible from how it should have been |
| 21:57.07 | glen__ | sredna, is there #channel for devs? likely kdepim devs |
| 21:57.28 | sredna | glen__: #kde-devel, #kdepim |
| 21:59.09 | benbloom | do I need to switch to a different build of linux? ie gentoo or fedora |
| 21:59.11 | Half-Left | benbloom: Some distros cut features and backport 4.2 features from beta code |
| 21:59.43 | benbloom | is that what Kubuntu is doing Half-Left? |
| 21:59.51 | Half-Left | And more yes |
| 22:00.13 | Half-Left | If you want something vanilla try archlinux |
| 22:00.21 | Half-Left | or manually compile |
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| 22:01.34 | starnull | hi. would kdm fall under the topic? |
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| 22:02.34 | Half-Left | benbloom: My own personal experience is that Fedora 10 KDE4.1 version is a good experience but they still backported |
| 22:03.02 | Half-Left | starnull: Yep |
| 22:03.13 | sredna | runs archlinux atm, which is very nice |
| 22:03.44 | Half-Left | gives sredna a secret wink |
| 22:03.45 | pinotree | starnull: just ask your question |
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| 22:07.18 | glen__ | https://bugs.kde.org/img/konqi.gif - 404, seen in bugs report pages |
| 22:07.32 | starnull | ok. i was using gdm. i just removed it and installed kdm instead. but kdm is not starting by default. i get a console login, at which point a user can run 'startx' or root could run 'kdm' to launch kdm. |
| 22:09.16 | Half-Left | starnull: Startx logs you into KDE, you run kdm as root to have a kdm login |
| 22:09.22 | sredna | starnull: follow the instructions for your distro :) |
| 22:09.44 | sredna | starnull: the have different means for selecting the dm |
| 22:10.05 | glen__ | https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=177184 - what kind of information should i add more here? |
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| 22:12.00 | sredna | glen__: http://techbase.kde.org/Development/Tutorials/Debugging/How_to_create_useful_crash_reports |
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| 22:12.35 | glen__ | sredna, there is no crash |
| 22:12.46 | sredna | your report says so, glen__ ;) |
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| 22:12.54 | WDDesigns_Laptop | Hey guys. A quick issue, Im having trouble resizing the length of kde panels now :S can anyone help? |
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| 22:15.26 | sredna | WDDesigns_Laptop: kde version? |
| 22:17.09 | sredna | glen__: /topic - read at the end ;) |
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| 22:18.45 | WDDesigns_Laptop | sredna: 4.1 |
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| 22:19.50 | sredna | WDDesigns_Laptop: press the weird icon that the right of the panel, and you will see two small buttons at the very left. They can be used to set the max and min width. after adjusting that, you may change the alignment using the more settings button |
| 22:20.16 | sredna | sorry, at the very right |
| 22:20.31 | sredna | and the weird icon has a name, that i forgot |
| 22:20.34 | WDDesigns_Laptop | sredna: That is my problem I think. I dont have these buttons |
| 22:20.45 | picca- | anyone find youtube doesn |
| 22:21.24 | sredna | WDDesigns_Laptop: then i don't know, except if by accident you made the panel too wide and hide them |
| 22:21.40 | picca- | anyone here find youtube doesn't work so well with kde 3.5.x - e.g. long pauses before video clip is shown, dialog box saying something is taking too long, etc |
| 22:21.41 | da1l6 | WDDesigns_Laptop, maybe you locked the panel? |
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| 22:22.19 | sredna | oh :o |
| 22:22.32 | sredna | in that case, rightclick to unlock |
| 22:22.35 | WDDesigns_Laptop | with the lock widgets button? no, its unlocked. |
| 22:23.18 | WDDesigns_Laptop | I have everything except the little arrows to resize the thing |
| 22:23.28 | WDDesigns_Laptop | on both panels ive got |
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| 22:24.11 | da1l6 | can you select panel settings in the context menu? |
| 22:24.50 | WDDesigns_Laptop | yes. brings up the bar above the panel with config buttons |
| 22:25.55 | da1l6 | there should be little triangular sliders on the left and right above the panel |
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| 22:26.19 | da1l6 | (assuming a horizontal panel) |
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| 22:26.30 | WDDesigns_Laptop | they are not there |
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| 22:26.58 | da1l6 | weird |
| 22:27.40 | WDDesigns_Laptop | yup |
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| 22:28.22 | da1l6 | i belive these are the only way to adjust the width of the panel. |
| 22:28.29 | sredna | maybe the small buttons was added in 4.1.3 |
| 22:28.45 | WDDesigns_Laptop | any idea how I can get these back? I remeber seeingthem before, I have had them |
| 22:29.33 | WDDesigns_Laptop | I think I added a new panel, pulled it around a bit and the sliders dissapeared |
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| 22:30.11 | lilltiger | you can try to stop plasma, remove/backup the kde/share/config/plsma* files , restart plasma but that will delete all your custom settings for plasma |
| 22:30.13 | sredna | WDDesigns_Laptop: try renaming your plasmarc and plasma-appletsrc files and restart plasma |
| 22:30.43 | da1l6 | maybe try to remove the panel, add a new, empty one and look if they are there. |
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| 22:31.59 | WDDesigns_Laptop | sredna: where would I find these files? da1l6: wont I loose everything on the panel? spent quite a while setting it up |
| 22:32.18 | sredna | WDDesigns_Laptop: ~/.kde4/share/config |
| 22:32.41 | sredna | WDDesigns_Laptop: renaming means backing them up, so you can rename them back |
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| 22:32.57 | WDDesigns_Laptop | i know :) just tring now |
| 22:33.07 | antoranz | Hi, Guys |
| 22:33.10 | sredna | of course that means that you will also possibly reinstall the problem |
| 22:33.35 | antoranz | Do you help people with kdm problems? |
| 22:34.11 | sredna | antoranz: shoot :) |
| 22:34.25 | WDDesigns_Laptop | whats the command to restart plasma? |
| 22:34.26 | antoranz | k :-) |
| 22:34.43 | sredna | WDDesigns_Laptop: killall plasma && plasma& |
| 22:34.50 | benbloom | ok so lately kicker's been vanishing. I dont know where it's gone, but it's still running according to ps |
| 22:34.56 | antoranz | guys.... this is an intrepid box that's having problems to start kde from kdm. |
| 22:35.05 | antoranz | it starts normally, but I get no DirectRendering |
| 22:35.15 | sredna | benbloom: if you have kde4, there is no kicker :-) |
| 22:35.31 | antoranz | however, if I start kde from the console (startkde) I do get directrendering |
| 22:35.34 | benbloom | im on my desktop right now which is kde3.5 |
| 22:36.07 | sredna | benbloom: so is kicker hiding, or did it crash? |
| 22:36.19 | WDDesigns_Laptop | okay. panels ugly again, but I have little sliders back :) cheers guys, ill reconfigure now :) |
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| 22:36.28 | antoranz | I tried starting the "fail save" session that only starts a terminal and it does have direct rendering |
| 22:36.33 | sredna | benbloom: if it crashed, press ALT + F2 and enter 'kicker' |
| 22:36.51 | antoranz | so... i guess it's something in the configuration of kdm to start kde |
| 22:36.56 | antoranz | where do I have to look? |
| 22:37.07 | antoranz | or "what" do I have to look? |
| 22:37.32 | benbloom | it didn't crash though sredna |
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| 22:38.17 | sredna | antoranz: kdm runs a desktop file, usually in KDEDIR/share/apps/kdm/sessions IIRC |
| 22:38.37 | benbloom | so I just killed the proc and then restarted it. it shows up for a sec and then disappears. perhaps I need to manually change the configs? |
| 22:38.39 | sredna | antoranz: ubuntu may possibly have changed that location though |
| 22:39.17 | sredna | benbloom: is there a small button in either side of your screen that shows it? |
| 22:39.43 | glen__ | why is kontact uploading messages to dimap server (for contacts) if i have _not_ checked "check mail on startup"? |
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| 22:39.50 | benbloom | nope. but I do have autohide enabled. it just wont come out sredna |
| 22:40.27 | sredna | benbloom: and the advice is like for the plasma pannel, try renaming the kickerrc file (~/.kde/share/config/kickerrc) after you kill it, and then start again |
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| 22:41.13 | benbloom | k. good idea. exactly what I was looking for |
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| 22:41.59 | antoranz_ | Sorry, guys |
| 22:42.10 | antoranz_ | I had one "unscheduled power down" |
| 22:42.34 | antoranz_ | does anybody have any idea on my kdm problem? |
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| 22:42.58 | xenol | i am having problem with powerdevil. i am missing power profiles except performance one. any ideas? |
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| 22:43.28 | sredna | xenol: create some? |
| 22:44.09 | benbloom | worked sredna. now I will compare the files and see if I can figure out the problem. thanks |
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| 22:44.27 | xenol | sredna: there should be 5 default. i am missing 4 |
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| 22:45.27 | antoranz_ | let's change the question |
| 22:45.32 | sredna | xenol: really? I got only one when installing |
| 22:45.42 | antoranz_ | how do I create a new "kdm session type" by hand? |
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| 22:46.00 | antoranz_ | so that I can make more tests |
| 22:46.03 | sredna | antoranz_: copy one of the .desktop files to a new name :) |
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| 22:46.20 | amigrave | I'm searching a KDE centric linux distribution. Does it exists ? Can someone give me name(s) of good distribution with good KDE integration ? |
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| 22:46.40 | sredna | (those in KDEDIR/share/apps/kdm/sessions or whereever ubuntu puts them -- in/etc?) |
| 22:47.11 | xenol | sredna: ah nvm then and thx |
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| 22:47.39 | sredna | xenol: maybe some of the distros comes with extra profiles :) |
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| 22:48.07 | Farmer | Hey, I've noticed some odd behaviour in kde4.2 beta 1. When the computer have been idling for more than 10minutes or so, something falls in an evul loop of cpu grinding, aka full load / 50% dualcore |
| 22:48.19 | bonsaikitten | amigrave: you'll get a dozen answers to that question that contradict each other - and as usual I'll say "gentoo" |
| 22:48.53 | antoranz_ | is it possible that the kde option I get on KDM is the "kde-safe.desktop? |
| 22:49.02 | xenol | sredna: i am on archlinux. using kdemod-powerdevil atm. after i installed latest stable powerdevil (kdemod one is 1.3.0) those profiles disappeared :< |
| 22:49.02 | Farmer | I run 64bit kubuntu |
| 22:49.08 | antoranz_ | cause in the kde.desktop, all I see is that it runs startkde |
| 22:49.10 | sredna | kubuntu, opensuse, mandriva, fedora, mephis, ... |
| 22:49.53 | sredna | antoranz_: maybe you should check what your distro does to start the X server :) |
| 22:50.45 | sredna | ended up running archlinux recently, and that is nice too. it is not kde-centric, but it has a very nice kde: vanilla :-) |
| 22:51.19 | antoranz_ | I'm seeing it's kdm the one that's starting X |
| 22:51.24 | glen__ | how to turn off kopete incoming message bubbles? |
| 22:51.28 | Farmer | the annoying thing is that I cant tell what process that's doing it. Couldnt find anything suspicious in the system logs either :/ |
| 22:51.50 | amigrave | bonsaikitten: I know distribution is a matter of taste. But I'm searching for a KDE centric one. I wonder if it exists. There are plenty of distributions that are Gnome centric with possibility to use KDE in a community driven part of the distribution. But I wonder if it exists just one distribution which pushes KDE by default. Or at least where official support/dev/integration for KDE is equal to the Gnome one. |
| 22:52.07 | bonsaikitten | ark or gentoo at least |
| 22:52.49 | bonsaikitten | not sure about others, most got gnomed so badly :( |
| 22:53.40 | sredna | antoranz_: kdm runs a script that is in /usr/share/apps/kdm/ pr default, but i would guess that ubuntu has it in /etc somewhere, and edited it |
| 22:54.10 | sredna | amigrave: i would say kubuntu and opensuse |
| 22:54.33 | antoranz_ | if DirectRendering is off, it must be a problem in the way X is started, right? |
| 22:54.45 | sredna | arch linux is neutral, when you install it it is a minimal cli system |
| 22:54.45 | antoranz_ | no other process on top of it could disable it, right? |
| 22:55.11 | sredna | antoranz_: kde sometimes turns compositing off |
| 22:55.34 | sredna | but i do not think it cares about direct rendering, but then i'm no expert |
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| 22:56.14 | antoranz_ | really? |
| 22:56.17 | amigrave | sredna: well I'm under kubuntu right now and recently I've been disapointed with it. It seems that kubuntu people are either taking a wrong direction, either don't have time/resource to make good job. I'll try opensuse |
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| 22:57.16 | sredna | amigrave: good luck :) |
| 22:57.25 | bonsaikitten | amigrave: see you tomorrow ;) |
| 22:57.32 | jillsmitt | hi) |
| 22:59.16 | sredna | antoranz_: in any case, since distros often edit those scripts, asking in #<yourdistro> may be a good idea, in case others have had the same experience |
| 22:59.35 | amigrave | sredna: bonsaikitten: well I'll try for the record because I don't like rpm. Anyway. I want something that works and that don't eat up all my memory. |
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| 23:00.02 | antoranz_ | I¡ve already tried that route.... like for a week... to no avail. :-) |
| 23:00.13 | bonsaikitten | has a solution for himself |
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| 23:00.36 | bonsaikitten | no use trying to convince you, so I won't bother :) |
| 23:00.37 | WDDesigns_Laptop | For those wondering, Ive worked out that its the "elegance" desktop theme that breaks panel resizing buttons. Shame, best looking theme |
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| 23:02.17 | sredna | WDDesigns_Laptop: that is right (elegance breaks those buttons). how odd... |
| 23:02.44 | sredna | WDDesigns_Laptop: maybe you can just change theme while you configure? |
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| 23:02.48 | antoranz_ | is it possibel to know if it's KDe that's turning it off? is it tweakable? |
| 23:03.15 | WDDesigns_Laptop | very. that was my plan. change back to the default whenever i want to resize a apnel |
| 23:03.22 | WDDesigns_Laptop | panel* |
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| 23:03.48 | asdfasdf | is RSSnow plasmoid available? or will it be soon? |
| 23:04.40 | xenol | those who are using kdemod here and got powerdevil installed, pls post their powerdevilprofilesrc plox |
| 23:05.01 | sredna | plox? |
| 23:05.39 | sredna | i installed powerdevil from kdemod, and iirc there was one profile. |
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| 23:06.11 | lilltiger | I never figured what powerdevil is good for |
| 23:06.20 | Half-Left | asdfasdf: it's in 4.2 in kderplasma-addons |
| 23:06.30 | Half-Left | kdeplasma-addons* |
| 23:07.52 | xenol | sredna: plox = please |
| 23:08.24 | sredna | I would like a i18n'd weather forecast plasmoid that adjusts the fonts correctly and does not freeze plasma when there is no network connection... :) |
| 23:08.58 | xenol | hmm sredna, it's weird. i know i got 5 profiles. those were performance, powersave, agressive powersave, xtreme powersave and presentation :> |
| 23:08.59 | asdfasdf | Half-Left, cool ill have to wait until 4.2 or i can install it in 4.1? |
| 23:09.05 | antoranz_ | I've I have like 200 .desktop items in /usr/share/kde4/apps/kdm/sessions |
| 23:09.05 | xenol | sredna: i would like that also |
| 23:09.17 | antoranz_ | which ones are shown by kdm? |
| 23:09.27 | antoranz_ | I mean, how do I activate one of those? |
| 23:09.27 | Half-Left | asdfasdf: Wait for 4.2 or you can test it beta2 is out soon |
| 23:09.41 | sredna | xenol: i think we have to code one, judging from the 3 different ones i tried :) |
| 23:10.03 | sredna | now i miss the kicker file server... |
| 23:10.14 | xenol | sredna: yep, with my uber-hacking pascal knowledge =D |
| 23:10.20 | cb400f | sredna: kepas |
| 23:10.51 | cb400f | .. ported and enhanced kpf |
| 23:11.50 | sredna | xenol: http://pastebin.com/m3e1ca38f |
| 23:11.56 | sredna | 5 profiles |
| 23:12.09 | sredna | cb400f: oh, cool :-) |
| 23:12.22 | sredna | checks if he has that |
| 23:12.39 | sredna | no... :( |
| 23:12.43 | cb400f | yup, not everything in kde4 worse, contrary to common perception :-= |
| 23:12.47 | cb400f | :-) |
| 23:13.18 | xenol | sredna: i LOVE you seriously, saved my day. you will have 3 wishes from santa =D |
| 23:13.46 | sredna | cool |
| 23:13.59 | sredna | wish, wish, wish |
| 23:14.05 | Roey | hey Anders :) |
| 23:14.09 | antoranz | Ok... sredna: it's not KDE to blame for the DirectRendering problem |
| 23:14.09 | Roey | long time no see |
| 23:14.14 | sredna | hi Roey |
| 23:14.31 | antoranz | if I start kde from the failsave session of kdm (which only has a terminal), it works like a charm |
| 23:14.34 | Roey | with gwenview in kde4 |
| 23:14.40 | drantin | 'lo Roey |
| 23:14.41 | Roey | what happened to the file management side bar? |
| 23:14.44 | Roey | heya Drantin! |
| 23:14.51 | sredna | ' internet provider has had problems with irc, but the seem to be not as bad anymore |
| 23:15.46 | Roey | What the heck is wrong with gwenview in kde4? It seems practically neutered in terms of usability |
| 23:15.48 | sredna | Roey: it was replaced with something in non-standard colors? |
| 23:15.59 | sredna | agrees |
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| 23:17.25 | xenol | sredna: weird. profiles are there. but when i do plug ac, perfomance profile should load. instead i get popup message that "Selected profile "" doesnt exist" or something similar |
| 23:17.37 | xenol | that sux |
| 23:18.00 | Roey | sredna: I don't follow? |
| 23:18.04 | xenol | anyways sredna do u also have somewhere around powerdevilrc? :> |
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| 23:19.29 | sredna | xenol: import them :) |
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| 23:21.32 | sredna | xenol: i just imported those profiles, now i have them. appearently that is not automated. |
| 23:22.57 | xenol | sredna: weird i am getting The profile "" has been selected, but does not exist. Please chcek your powerdevil configuration. |
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| 23:23.22 | xenol | sredna: i have as in profiles already, even with importing |
| 23:23.57 | sredna | moment |
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| 23:25.25 | sredna | xenol: http://pastebin.com/d61ab5790 <- powerdevilrc |
| 23:25.33 | sredna | beware that it uses a custom profile |
| 23:25.33 | Steve^ | How can I add a file extension to get Java highlighting in kate? |
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| 23:27.30 | Steve^ | I changed Sources/Java in the Highlight config section to *.drl |
| 23:27.40 | Steve^ | but .java still highlights and .drl doesn't |
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| 23:28.13 | Steve^ | oo, I can do it manually per file |
| 23:28.14 | Steve^ | that'll do |
| 23:28.22 | sredna | Steve^: in the config dialog, go to open/save -> file types, activate source/java and add your extension |
| 23:29.17 | sredna | Steve^: does the extension get another highlight? |
| 23:29.32 | xenol | sredna: works like a charm :* |
| 23:29.36 | xenol | sredna: thx |
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| 23:29.54 | sredna | np :) |
| 23:30.15 | benbloom | BTW- sredna. it looks like I had autohid enabled but there was no way to autoshow (or I didn't stumble across it) pretty ridiculous problem. I guess it's an argument in itself against too much customization options |
| 23:30.22 | xenol | what version are u using anyways? |
| 23:30.34 | sredna | xenol: i'm using kde 4.1.3 |
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| 23:30.42 | sredna | very conservative... |
| 23:31.38 | xenol | sredna: powerdevil is what i meant. i assume u are using 1.4.x then ;) |
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| 23:44.48 | glen__ | how to turn off kopete incoming message bubbles? |
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| 23:46.43 | da1l6 | glen__, you can configure that in System settings -> Notifications |
| 23:47.44 | sredna | good night |
| 23:48.21 | da1l6 | i guess i should do the same. gn8 |
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