| 00:00.10 | SharkMa-san | well, at least I'm annoyed since multi-screen support has been bad since 4.0 |
| 00:00.16 | Half-Left | if your setup doesn't work right, go file a bug and ask for the issue to be resolved |
| 00:00.26 | Dan | fi |
| 00:00.28 | SharkMa-san | Half-Left: there has been filed bugs since 4.0 |
| 00:00.51 | SharkMa-san | it's not like I need to make duplicates |
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| 00:02.07 | litb | hello all |
| 00:02.12 | litb | great, do you guys know this? |
| 00:02.14 | litb | http://introducingkde4.blogspot.com/2008/11/plasma.html |
| 00:02.18 | Half-Left | Wait for beta2 then |
| 00:02.25 | SharkMa-san | I am |
| 00:02.58 | Half-Left | You use packages? |
| 00:03.13 | SharkMa-san | I just don't like how they don't take multi-screen support seriously enough |
| 00:03.37 | Half-Left | What makes you think that? |
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| 00:03.49 | SharkMa-san | well, it still wasn't working properly in 4.1 |
| 00:04.25 | Half-Left | Well these things take time |
| 00:04.40 | SharkMa-san | twinview worked, but separate x screens failed bad |
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| 00:06.43 | SharkMa-san | and that is something you'd expect to fail in beta, but in both 4.0 and 4.1 stables :/ |
| 00:07.15 | rogan | DaSkreech |
| 00:07.34 | Half-Left | SharkMa-san: KDE4 is young, give it time |
| 00:08.19 | SharkMa-san | I know it's eventually going to be fixed, but I'll get bored to it if it's going to take 'till something like 4.5 |
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| 00:09.04 | sparr | in kate in kde 4.1, the terminal changes directories even when switching between two files in the same directory. bug? |
| 00:09.26 | SharkMa-san | I wouldn't be ranting about this if I didn't like kde, wouldn't I |
| 00:09.36 | SharkMa-san | I just want to make clear that this issue really needs to be fixed |
| 00:10.14 | Half-Left | Well if your not talking to a dev about it it's rather pointless |
| 00:10.15 | pinotree | so other tons of issues |
| 00:11.14 | SharkMa-san | well, they should focus on fixing the issues before adding new features then |
| 00:11.30 | pinotree | and don't you think we are? |
| 00:12.27 | SharkMa-san | well, there are new features presented, but still bugs that aren't fixed |
| 00:12.44 | pinotree | and there are tons of bugs fixed as well |
| 00:13.34 | SharkMa-san | but that's not focusing on fixing the bugs before adding new features ;P |
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| 00:13.35 | pinotree | just don't think your exact problem(s) is "the most important ever", because this is not always (often) the case |
| 00:13.57 | SharkMa-san | I think proper multi-screen support is really important |
| 00:14.34 | pinotree | and i think this is something already known by the plasma guys, and they are doing all they can to make such configuration work properly |
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| 00:16.10 | SharkMa-san | I bet they've known it since 4.0 |
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| 00:16.34 | SharkMa-san | most likely it was known before the stables |
| 00:16.38 | pinotree | yes, and? |
| 00:16.52 | SharkMa-san | well, did it work in 4.1? nope |
| 00:17.19 | pinotree | and many other things worked in such versions |
| 00:17.38 | SharkMa-san | I admit that 4.1 was a lot better than 4.0 though |
| 00:17.43 | SharkMa-san | by a whole lot |
| 00:17.50 | Dan | SharkMa-san: have you read the bugs at bugs.kde.org? |
| 00:17.57 | SharkMa-san | I have |
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| 00:18.06 | dios_mio | does anyone else have problems with Konquerer on youtube.com? |
| 00:18.13 | Dan | SharkMa-san: have you provided useful information? |
| 00:18.22 | SharkMa-san | the information is already there |
| 00:18.25 | SharkMa-san | I have nothing to add |
| 00:18.39 | SharkMa-san | it's definitely a plasma problem |
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| 00:18.51 | Half-Left | ask in #plasma then |
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| 00:19.19 | Half-Left | or join the mailing lists about it |
| 00:19.21 | SharkMa-san | I'll check the next beta first, since someone stated it was fixed in svn |
| 00:19.42 | SharkMa-san | 01:53:21 < SharkMa-san> they managed to break twinview in 4.2 beta 1, and I've heard it's fixed (it worked fine in 4.1) |
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| 00:23.59 | Dan | SharkMa-san: both dual and twinview have never broken for me |
| 00:24.33 | Dan | SharkMa-san: from 4.0 all the way to current 4.1.85 |
| 00:24.34 | SharkMa-san | well, I didn't even try twinview in 4.0 ... had to change to it in 4.1 |
| 00:25.07 | SharkMa-san | I used separate x screens before it |
| 00:25.21 | Dan | SharkMa-san: how do you say "they managed to break twinview" in beta1? |
| 00:25.49 | Half-Left | And how did you know it was broken in 4.0? |
| 00:26.18 | SharkMa-san | Dan: http://sharkma.pp.fi/images/glitch.png and after plasma crash http://sharkma.pp.fi/images/glitch2.png |
| 00:27.10 | SharkMa-san | Half-Left: I don't know, but separate x screens have been broken since 4.0 ... and I'll be trying it in 4.2 when a stable release comes out |
| 00:28.05 | SharkMa-san | it reverts to the situation in first screenshot after second crash etc. |
| 00:28.42 | sparr | SharkMa-san: every release fixes hundreds of bugs and adds dozens of features. dont complain if your favorite is not part of those |
| 00:29.16 | SharkMa-san | sparr: well, I just can't think how multi-screen support is less important than better mac osx widget support for example |
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| 00:29.46 | sparr | easy |
| 00:29.53 | sparr | the guy adding mac osx widget support only has one screen |
| 00:30.13 | SharkMa-san | like most of them, and they don't give a shit :P yea |
| 00:30.16 | sparr | which is not certainly the case, but a quite plausible explanation |
| 00:30.30 | sparr | how do you expect him to investigate a bug he doesnt have the hardware to test? |
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| 00:31.12 | SharkMa-san | well, how do you expect anyone to take intrest in fixing the issue, if they just tell how bad your code is |
| 00:31.21 | sparr | your code probably is bad |
| 00:31.29 | sparr | mine was the first dozen times i submitted patches |
| 00:31.45 | SharkMa-san | my friend lost intrest in kde when they just blatantly told him your code is shit |
| 00:31.56 | SharkMa-san | I don't code c++ |
| 00:32.32 | sparr | was your friend's code shit? |
| 00:33.11 | SharkMa-san | well, most likely wasn't, but it just wasn't done in the way they wanted |
| 00:34.37 | SharkMa-san | and even if it was bad, telling blatantly "you suck" isn't the right way anyway |
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| 00:37.12 | sparr | i disagree |
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| 00:37.34 | sparr | if the kde patch reviewers spent time teaching people how to program, nothing would ever get fixed |
| 00:37.35 | Kraplax | hi |
| 00:37.39 | SharkMa-san | well, that's the best way being discouraging |
| 00:38.01 | Kraplax | could anyone tell me whatwould be the key to pass to Dolphin as a folder name? |
| 00:38.37 | pinotree | Kraplax: ? |
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| 00:39.53 | dios_mio | something i dont like in KDE is how it makes the minimized windows' thingies on the taskbar on shadowed color |
| 00:40.13 | SharkMa-san | but that's the way of open source, people just get pissed off when new users ask stupid questions etc. and tell them to fuck off |
| 00:40.13 | Kraplax | pinotree: well |
| 00:40.14 | jeansebas | hi someone know how to configure sound in amarok 2.0 ??? i have no output |
| 00:40.16 | SharkMa-san | lol |
| 00:40.27 | Kraplax | pinheiro: i want' to try to adapt Dolphin to Windows |
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| 00:40.29 | dios_mio | jeansebas: alsaconf |
| 00:40.43 | pinotree | wonders whether SharkMa-san can provide examples, just for personal curiosity |
| 00:40.44 | dios_mio | jeansebas: do you have sound otherwise? |
| 00:41.06 | SharkMa-san | well, on debian for example... they just tell you to read the manual |
| 00:41.13 | Kraplax | pinheiro: and when i pass dolphin.exe to system it doesn't open folder on folder's double click - it just opens default Dolphin window :( |
| 00:41.15 | pinotree | Kraplax: that does not tell me what you want to do: can you explain that? |
| 00:41.20 | SharkMa-san | and if you say you've read it, they just argue you haven't |
| 00:41.29 | Kraplax | sorry, pinheiro :/ |
| 00:41.42 | pinotree | hits Kraplax with a Tab key |
| 00:41.42 | Kraplax | pinotree: and when i pass dolphin.exe to system it doesn't open folder on folder's double click - it just opens default Dolphin window :( |
| 00:41.48 | Kraplax | :P |
| 00:41.50 | Kraplax | sorry |
| 00:42.06 | Kraplax | i'm a bit sleepy so missed that significant difference |
| 00:42.31 | jeansebas | dios_mio i have sound for windows notification |
| 00:43.02 | dios_mio | jeansebas: what distro of linux? |
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| 00:43.41 | jeansebas | fedora |
| 00:43.54 | pinotree | Kraplax: as above, can you please explain what is the behaviour you want to achieve? |
| 00:44.03 | SharkMa-san | ... and I've heard it's even worse on freebsd channel :P |
| 00:44.04 | pinotree | (and how it differs from the current one) |
| 00:44.04 | dios_mio | ok... well i thought maybe you had no sound card installed yet.. but it seems the problem is just for amarok. then i cant help |
| 00:44.07 | jeansebas | where is the file for amarok to change manualy the conf.. |
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| 00:44.54 | Kraplax | pinotree: well, to replace explorer.exe i've changed registry settings on opening folders. so, double clicking a folder would give me a Dolphin window now |
| 00:44.58 | jeansebas | ok why they dont give a configuration menu to enter something like hw:0,1 |
| 00:45.18 | Kraplax | pinotree: but the opend new dolphin window is set to it's default location in my ~ |
| 00:46.01 | Kraplax | pinotree: and i'd like to know if there're any Dolphin keys that could be passed to it so that it would open the folder clicked |
| 00:46.13 | pinotree | Kraplax: thus that means it calls dolphin with the directory name as parameter? |
| 00:46.29 | Kraplax | yes |
| 00:46.46 | Kraplax | like "dolphin.exe %f" or something like that |
| 00:47.01 | pinotree | works here |
| 00:47.07 | pinotree | (linux, of course) |
| 00:47.16 | Kraplax | so, %f is the right parameter? |
| 00:47.23 | Kraplax | for linux |
| 00:47.27 | pinotree | no |
| 00:47.34 | Kraplax | %d? |
| 00:47.36 | pinotree | no |
| 00:47.42 | Kraplax | hm.. :/ |
| 00:47.45 | Kraplax | what then? |
| 00:47.50 | pinotree | what is valid for linux won't be valid for windows as well |
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| 00:48.06 | Kraplax | pinheiro: i understand, just want to try |
| 00:48.10 | Kraplax | to be sure |
| 00:48.40 | Kraplax | then i'll try harder on #windows |
| 00:48.40 | pinotree | instead of blindly guessing, look at any regedit doc and see what it says |
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| 00:48.52 | Kraplax | ok. |
| 00:48.57 | Kraplax | thank you |
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| 00:50.19 | shepherd | Hi, I can't get my webcam workin' in kopete, is there something special I need? it works in other programs |
| 00:50.43 | Hero-Bernhard | hiho sorry, amm, hoo is the german channel ? |
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| 00:50.57 | pinotree | #kde.de |
| 00:51.01 | Hero-Bernhard | thx |
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| 00:55.30 | Hero-Bernhard | hmm sorry for my shit english,; how can I reset the desktop?I just test kde 4, and the widgets is... grml |
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| 01:13.45 | shaney | hello. i'm using kde 3.5.9 on gentoo 2008 |
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| 01:14.08 | shaney | i'm switching from slackware where I had the "copy to" and "move to" menu item |
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| 01:14.18 | shaney | here i've only the "copy" and "paste" items. does sb know how to add the "copy to" and "move to" items? |
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| 01:21.04 | Jucato | shaney: ask your distro for the konq-plugins/kuick package |
| 01:21.11 | Jucato | (or maybe it's just in konq-plugins) |
| 01:22.01 | shaney | kde-base/konq-plugins :) found it! |
| 01:22.25 | shaney | thank you very much Jucato |
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| 01:24.26 | tuxwulf | <PROTECTED> |
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| 01:24.35 | Jucato | since 4.0 |
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| 01:24.53 | pinotree | morning Jucato |
| 01:24.57 | tuxwulf | Disappointing.... |
| 01:25.01 | Jucato | moin pinotree |
| 01:25.09 | pinotree | just like your reply, yeah |
| 01:25.31 | shepherd | anyone know if there's something special I gotta do to get my webcam working in kopete |
| 01:25.35 | sparr | tuxick: exceptionally disappointing :( ive been missing 3.x since i upgraded. kubuntu should not have switched |
| 01:25.39 | sparr | 4.1 is not ready |
| 01:25.49 | sparr | 4.1 sets desktop usability back years |
| 01:26.10 | tuxwulf | Yeah I feel so too |
| 01:26.36 | sparr | i cannot give kubuntu intrepid CDs to people for christmas this year, will have to use hardy |
| 01:26.43 | sparr | or ubuntu (ick) |
| 01:26.56 | tuxwulf | What does (ick) mean? |
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| 01:27.27 | shepherd | Eww |
| 01:28.03 | rogan | Can anyone help resolve my situation.. The person helping me left. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/307956 .. also to include is that if/when I try to add a widget my system freezes up and I will be forced to restart. This all started a bit earlier today when I upgraded from the latest version to kde4.2 beta 1 |
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| 01:31.46 | sparr | tuxick: that i dislike gnome |
| 01:32.38 | tuxwulf | spar > Well I do not actively dislike gnome, it s just that KDE+kicker suited me better |
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| 01:35.41 | Jucato | Plasma is a "start from scratch" project. it's still adding a lot of functionality along the way. theoretically, there isn't much difference between kicker and plasma panel. the only difference is in the workflow |
| 01:36.03 | Jucato | the plasma panel is composed of applets. and so was/is kicker |
| 01:37.09 | Jucato | the difference is that you don't need two separate applets, one for the desktop and one for the panel. the same applet can be used on the desktop and on the panel (in different forms)... |
| 01:41.25 | tuxwulf | Jucato > ... be that as it may... it just does nto suit me. I seem to have to click more to get where I want to go, instead of less... |
| 01:41.43 | tuxwulf | To shutdown for instance, is at least 1 click more |
| 01:41.53 | shepherd | I agree, I'm more of a keyboard person. I dislike being forced to use the mouse |
| 01:42.02 | tuxwulf | Such things hold me up tremendously, and is precisely why I dislike Win more and more |
| 01:42.05 | shepherd | Speaking of shutting down, anyone know why whenever I logout or shutdown, absolutely nothing happens? |
| 01:42.16 | tuxwulf | Keyboard vs mouse, yes, I agree with that too |
| 01:42.48 | shepherd | either nothing happens or I must wait 5 minutes for it to log out.. |
| 01:42.55 | shepherd | And I have timed it |
| 01:43.33 | Jucato | tuxwulf: that's a different case |
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| 01:43.58 | Jucato | (shutdown "dialog") |
| 01:44.22 | Jucato | shepherd: what do you mean absolutely nothing happens? |
| 01:44.27 | tuxwulf | Jucato > Okay then, dialog... semantics... I see plasma vs kicker... Apologies for my inability to separate the two.... |
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| 01:44.38 | shepherd | Jucato: ... it sits there? |
| 01:44.41 | shepherd | Jucato: and does nothing |
| 01:45.22 | shepherd | Jucato: do actually exit I have to use shutdown or reboot command, and if kde seems to forget things like widget positioning |
| 01:45.27 | shepherd | to actually * |
| 01:45.37 | Jucato | tuxwulf: the shutdown dialog wasn't even part of kicker. and if you use the classic menu version of the K Menu (right-click -> Switch to), you have that 1 click less setup again |
| 01:45.55 | Jucato | shepherd: just sits there, blank screen? |
| 01:46.05 | shepherd | just sits there as in I could open firefox and start navegating |
| 01:46.08 | shepherd | and it will never log out |
| 01:46.14 | Jucato | of course KDE will forget settings if you use "shutdown" and "reboot" |
| 01:46.24 | shepherd | Yes, well that's the only solution I have. |
| 01:46.28 | rogan | when is beta 2 out? |
| 01:46.36 | tuxwulf | Jucato > Okay... I know that I can set a lot of things back to like kicker. But the reason I will now be leaving kubuntu, for instance, is that after install I only had a minimum of tweaks to make. Now they are getting more and more again. |
| 01:46.39 | shepherd | I am aware it's "of course" I' was saying to tell you my disliking of using that method |
| 01:46.42 | Jucato | hm... that's definitely not normal, and definitely not the common thing that happens |
| 01:46.55 | shepherd | Jucato: its ok.. I will waity for the next releases |
| 01:47.12 | shepherd | Jucato: it doesn't bother me too much, I just put it out there to see if anyone knew the problem in the moment |
| 01:47.25 | Jucato | shepherd: but it is definitely not "a feature" |
| 01:47.33 | Jucato | "a feature of KDE 4" I mean |
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| 01:47.42 | shepherd | Jucato: hehe ok, thanks anyway |
| 01:48.06 | Jucato | tuxwulf: minimum of tweaks? |
| 01:48.25 | rogan | When is the next beta coming out? |
| 01:48.42 | tuxwulf | Jucato > Well I meant, after I install kubuntu, I hardly had to do anything to make it suit me. But now it is getting more again because of plasma. |
| 01:48.51 | Jucato | rogan: see techbase.kde.org for the schedule |
| 01:50.24 | Jucato | tuxwulf: 1. Kubuntu just recently switched to KDE 4 as default. It will take time to adjust. 2. Plasma has just "settled down" in terms of stabilizing, but there are still more features to come, as well as new applets that are being made. 3. You still haven't given any precise example of those "tweaks" |
| 01:51.35 | rogan | Can anyone help resolve my situation.. The person helping me left. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/307956 .. also to include is that if/when I try to add a widget my system freezes up and I will be forced to restart. This all started a bit earlier today when I upgraded from the latest version to kde4.2 beta 1 |
| 01:51.49 | tuxwulf | Jucato > Okay, pardon me.... I hear you 1 and 2. (come back to it in a bit) 3. That's what I mean, in kicker I did not have to make many tweaks. |
| 01:52.36 | tuxwulf | Jucato > 1+2: many people choose linux becasue ti is more stable. However, the way we work with it, when changing the desktop, is not stable. I wish it could stay as it is: the menus, the layout.... |
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| 01:52.55 | Jucato | tuxwulf: like what? the only different thing between the default panel that Kubuntu has in KDE 3 and KDE 4 is the Quick Launcher (which is an applet that's coming soon, and openSUSE backported it) |
| 01:53.27 | tuxwulf | Jucato > 3. For instance: I resize icons and toolbar-width, I place it on the left side (not so easy with plasma). I like a clean desktop (no widgets). That sort of tweaks. |
| 01:53.49 | DasKreech | Whee :) |
| 01:54.29 | rogan | DasKreech :( |
| 01:54.37 | DasKreech | The tooltips in Beta 2 are sexy |
| 01:54.37 | tuxwulf | The toolbar in plasma takes up too much space. Menu layout is un-intuitive. I know it takes time to get used to new layouts, but... why change the layouts in the fist place...? |
| 01:54.44 | DasKreech | hi rogan how goes |
| 01:54.49 | rogan | DasKreech terible |
| 01:54.56 | DasKreech | rogan: Did you get to remove the kdelibs5 ? |
| 01:55.01 | rogan | no |
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| 01:55.31 | DasKreech | rogan: you went to a virtual terminal? |
| 01:55.54 | Jucato | tuxwulf: "toolbars" are not Plasma's domain. that's for the KDE defaults (not- Plasma related) and decided by the core team. Menu layout, not sure which menu layout you are referring to |
| 01:56.09 | Jucato | "why change layouts"? "why not?" |
| 01:56.11 | tuxwulf | I heard someone say once in re4sponse to Vista ; Man I get GUI fatigue even looking at it! ... I am beginning to feel that too.... |
| 01:56.56 | Jucato | there's this thing called "innovation" which always requires risks, tests, failures, etc. |
| 01:57.00 | tuxwulf | Jucato > Ah well... see... that is anothet thing why it is not so easy to get yuorself heard... When I say plasma, the people say no, that is kde, and when I say kde, ppl say nop, you should talk to the x people. HOw do I know whom to address....? |
| 01:57.22 | Jucato | tuxwulf: you ask, then you get answered. then you learn. |
| 01:57.22 | tuxwulf | All I see is a desktop, no matter how it is put together... |
| 01:57.54 | tuxwulf | Jucato > half a year ago I tried to mention these things already, in the end I got the royal runaround in a way MS would be proud of.... |
| 01:58.10 | tuxwulf | I never got anywhere, and I asked around |
| 01:58.11 | Jucato | perhaps you forget that a GNU/Linux distribution is made up of parts and pieces that come from different groups, unlike some other OS's |
| 01:58.40 | tuxwulf | List here and forum there... and all I got was people saying 'that's not us.'... but who, tyhen? They did not mention |
| 01:58.52 | Jucato | Plasma is the desktop and panel, desktop as in that thing that sits beneath your windows. other than that, it's not repsonible for anything else |
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| 01:59.09 | Jucato | then ask them who |
| 01:59.19 | tuxwulf | Jucato > nono... I am not forgetting the bits and pieces of volunteers... I admire their work... And as such this discussion is getting out of hand, too.... |
| 01:59.25 | tuxwulf | I did ask them: no reply! |
| 01:59.26 | Jucato | if theyre' not willing to answer that, then don't listen to them because they're not worth hearing them |
| 01:59.40 | Jucato | s/them/then/ |
| 01:59.49 | tuxwulf | Jucato > and they were the people I amn supposed to address about the things I found in the desktop.. |
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| 01:59.57 | tuxwulf | The mailing list repliers, they were |
| 02:00.34 | tuxwulf | See, that is therefore a suggestion I made... let someone decide where a certain comment should go.... |
| 02:00.48 | tuxwulf | Because the suers (like me) don't know if it is kde, plasma, kicker, or ...? |
| 02:00.57 | Jucato | suers.. how apt :) |
| 02:01.02 | tuxwulf | suers = users |
| 02:01.07 | tuxwulf | typo |
| 02:01.09 | Jucato | likes suers better |
| 02:01.11 | Jucato | :) |
| 02:01.16 | neverendingo | hehe |
| 02:01.42 | neverendingo | tuxwulf: did you try the forum? |
| 02:02.00 | tuxwulf | neverendingo: Tried that too... tried all kinds of things.... |
| 02:02.35 | Jucato | <tuxwulf> Because the suers (like me) don't know if it is kde, plasma, kicker, or ...? <--- exactly! so don't make such sweeping statements about setting back the desktop years (the desktop hasn't evolved in decades btw). of course, it's just easier to point fingers and feign ignorance :) |
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| 02:03.06 | Jucato | tuxwulf: which kde forum? |
| 02:03.11 | tuxwulf | Jucato > ... this is what I meant with a discussion getting out of hand. YOu asked, so I answered, and now I get told off.... |
| 02:03.24 | Jucato | hasn't told anyone off |
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| 02:03.31 | tuxwulf | Jucato > Can't remember, too long ago.... |
| 02:03.40 | neverendingo | tuxwulf: then you tried the wrong one |
| 02:03.41 | Jucato | then not the forum neverendingo was referring to |
| 02:03.44 | tuxwulf | I call that telling off... |
| 02:03.58 | tuxwulf | never |
| 02:03.59 | tuxwulf | Precisely |
| 02:03.59 | neverendingo | i invite you to the new forum.kde.org |
| 02:03.59 | DasKreech | tuxwulf: Sounds a lot like information to me |
| 02:04.01 | tuxwulf | Then I tried the wrong one. NAd how do I know which one is tyhe right one...? |
| 02:04.05 | Jucato | tuxwulf: define "telling off"? |
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| 02:04.26 | tuxwulf | Yeha blah, that's where the discussion really goes in an unintended direction... |
| 02:04.33 | Jucato | tuxwulf: please point to me where I even told you "don't ask here. ask somewhere else" |
| 02:04.40 | tuxwulf | That was completely not the point |
| 02:04.42 | Jucato | or "it's not KDE's fault. it's X" |
| 02:05.11 | tuxwulf | Well whatever. |
| 02:05.28 | Jucato | here I am, trying to give information that could help you narrow down problems and maybe even file informative bug reports. and I'm being told that I'm "telling off"? |
| 02:06.08 | tuxwulf | Jucato > Okay, that is appreciated, When I go along with you, what will happen with it? |
| 02:06.13 | Jucato | then I guess you are not at all interested in trying to learn or correct (mis)conceptions that you have, and I am just wasting my time |
| 02:07.09 | tuxwulf | And if I tell what I ran into, and I get "talk to this or that people", what does that get me? equal waste... |
| 02:07.29 | tuxwulf | That's what happened 6 months ago - the royal runaround... |
| 02:08.38 | neverendingo | tuxwulf: if you are redirected to other people that doesn't mean it's bad. It means they know it better than me. and they maybe can help better |
| 02:08.39 | Jucato | I never gave you any runaround, yet you are very much willing and quick to put me in that category. thank you very much. and I wish you good luck in the future |
| 02:09.38 | DasKreech | Jucato: how's Qt coding coming? |
| 02:09.38 | tuxwulf | neverendingo: Yes, I realizwe that, and so I followed that and then they directed me somewhere else and eventually I got no reply... |
| 02:10.47 | neverendingo | as previously said, you are welcome to the forum, there are already some threads from unhappy kde3 users. Or make your own post. But simply be as precise as possible. |
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| 02:11.39 | tuxwulf | Jucato > You did say 'not plasma domain', with regard to something. That's a redirect... But, I apologize this discussion going in this diection. Never meant that. |
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| 02:12.56 | tuxwulf | neverendingo: Which forum do you recommend? |
| 02:13.16 | neverendingo | the official one of course ;) forum.kde.org |
| 02:14.23 | tuxwulf | neverendingo: Thanks, will go there. |
| 02:14.42 | neverendingo | tuxwulf: but really first read the other existing threads, i am nearly sure, your problems are already in there |
| 02:15.33 | tuxwulf | neverendingo: yeah. But, how do I add my 'vote'...? |
| 02:16.38 | neverendingo | tuxwulf: raise your voice, just like here. add something valuable what maybe doesn't exist. or simply say "me too!!!" ;) |
| 02:17.31 | tuxwulf | Ok. Thanks |
| 02:18.05 | neverendingo | tuxwulf: oh, and don't forget the Code of Conduct. But maybe you already know it |
| 02:18.21 | neverendingo | can be found in the menu on the left |
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| 02:18.38 | tuxwulf | Thank you. |
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| 02:30.59 | simcop2387 | is there any way (in 4.1.3) to force the plasma stuff to save the current state its in, without logging out? |
| 02:31.28 | neverendingo | simcop2387: kquitapp plasma && plasma |
| 02:31.55 | simcop2387 | thanks, i've managed to crash it twice now by trying to setup something to watch my apache logs |
| 02:32.21 | simcop2387 | dang worms/idiots sending obscenely long urls to try to crash the server or break it |
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| 02:34.01 | neverendingo | simcop2387: maybe better use konsole for that? |
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| 02:35.38 | simcop2387 | neverendingo: but i want something neat on the desktop doing it :) |
| 02:36.06 | neverendingo | simcop2387: sure :) |
| 02:37.03 | simcop2387 | aha, command watcher does it nicely |
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| 02:37.38 | neverendingo | hmm, file watcher on 4.1.3 is broken for me too |
| 02:38.42 | simcop2387 | well now i know my logs are boring :), the bug appears to be related to long lines to me, i did it fine on a file that didn't have them |
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| 02:43.53 | simcop2387 | all my logs are are the irc servers checking to see if i'm an open proxy :/ |
| 02:46.12 | neverendingo | simcop2387: sorry, my trunk installation is broken atm, so i can't check if it is already fixed |
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| 03:04.07 | Walzmyn | Where's the user GUI in 4.1? |
| 03:04.55 | neverendingo | Walzmyn: ? what does that mean? |
| 03:09.06 | Walzmyn | neverendingo, in 3.5 there under the system settings where was a gui tool to add users and what not. I was looking for it in 4.1 |
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| 03:10.41 | DasKreech | Walzmyn: System settings |
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| 03:16.01 | phish3 | hey guys, so I'm using 4.2 beta 1 |
| 03:16.13 | phish3 | and I want to bind a command to super+b |
| 03:16.18 | phish3 | a shell command |
| 03:16.21 | phish3 | how can i do so |
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| 03:21.14 | phish3 | no one? |
| 03:21.21 | phish3 | not even a guiless approach? |
| 03:21.28 | phish3 | what about other apps that can |
| 03:21.44 | Walzmyn | phish3, there's a KDE app that binds commands to keys. |
| 03:21.45 | phish3 | I just want a global keybinding between super+b to run a shell command |
| 03:21.51 | Walzmyn | can't remember the anme, but i'm sure you can google it |
| 03:21.58 | phish3 | khotkeys probably |
| 03:22.07 | Walzmyn | or you can use xbindkeys - it does it though X |
| 03:22.18 | phish3 | hmm |
| 03:22.58 | phish3 | ah |
| 03:23.08 | phish3 | I thought xbindkeys only worked for mice buttons |
| 03:23.18 | phish3 | ok, that looks like that's what I'm looking for |
| 03:23.53 | phish3 | btw while in the past khotkeys would've worked, it looks like its been reworked lately |
| 03:24.13 | phish3 | and so only can give keybindings to registered kde programs or something |
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| 04:57.42 | DasKreech | SAS_Spidey01: You don't hang around here very much do you? |
| 04:58.25 | SAS_Spidey01 | DasKreech, I did hang around here, until I s/kde/blackbox/'d my laptop |
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| 06:51.11 | smax | hi |
| 06:51.17 | smax | i get this message when i boot k3b. http://rafb.net/p/GDS8K090.html |
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| 07:26.29 | comawhite | how can I get language packs for kde-svn? |
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| 07:30.40 | c0l2e | in kde 4 how can I change the format of clock to AM/PM |
| 07:30.42 | c0l2e | ?? |
| 07:30.51 | comawhite | go to languages/regional |
| 07:30.59 | comawhite | in systemsettings |
| 07:31.05 | comawhite | then log out and log back in |
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| 07:34.18 | thiago_home | or just restart plasma |
| 07:35.02 | nesquick | hi there all |
| 07:35.17 | nesquick | can i install both, kde3 and 4 ? |
| 07:35.43 | c0l2e | thanks |
| 07:36.09 | comawhite | nesquick, yes |
| 07:36.18 | c0l2e | currently which OS is the best experience using KDE4 ?? |
| 07:36.19 | comawhite | since they don't share the same directory |
| 07:36.25 | comawhite | c0l2e, gentoo |
| 07:36.59 | c0l2e | hmm currently I'm using opensuse...got hard time package management |
| 07:37.25 | comawhite | c0l2e, gentoo is all source based meta-distribution |
| 07:38.22 | nesquick | comawhite: |
| 07:38.29 | comawhite | eh? |
| 07:38.37 | nesquick | i use fedora 10... i will be ok ? |
| 07:38.48 | comawhite | should be no problem |
| 07:38.54 | comawhite | i know in gentoo its not |
| 07:38.59 | nesquick | i saw the kde3 libs... |
| 07:39.04 | comawhite | i haven't used fc since 4 |
| 07:39.05 | thiago_home | I think Fedora no longer supports KDE 3 |
| 07:39.09 | thiago_home | so you can't install it |
| 07:39.17 | nesquick | hmm... |
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| 07:39.34 | comawhite | thiago_home, opensuse is going to stop when kde-4.3.0 is released |
| 07:39.45 | comawhite | which is around june |
| 07:39.57 | comawhite | atleast thats the roadmap of 4.3.0 |
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| 07:40.46 | holycow | where does kde store its trash files again? |
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| 07:42.34 | nesquick | and i have another problem |
| 07:42.38 | nesquick | with kopete :) |
| 07:42.45 | nesquick | i cant login to yahoo messenger |
| 07:42.46 | comawhite | what about it? crashing plasma? |
| 07:42.56 | comawhite | whats the error? |
| 07:43.06 | nesquick | w8 a sec |
| 07:44.14 | nesquick | hmm strange |
| 07:44.24 | comawhite | working now? |
| 07:44.27 | nesquick | yep |
| 07:44.30 | comawhite | hehe |
| 07:44.39 | comawhite | probably a server problem on yahoo's part |
| 07:45.03 | nesquick | no...is from kopete |
| 07:45.03 | nesquick | because pidgin works |
| 07:45.03 | comawhite | which version? |
| 07:45.04 | nesquick | i recieve |
| 07:45.04 | nesquick | a connection reset |
| 07:45.07 | comawhite | ah |
| 07:45.13 | comawhite | I got those alot to :P |
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| 07:45.20 | nesquick | 0.60.3 |
| 07:45.45 | comawhite | im not familar with that :P like KDE-4.1.3 4.1.2 etc? |
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| 07:46.37 | nesquick | :) |
| 07:46.42 | comawhite | I can't wait til kopete fixes the issue of it crashing plasma everytime on notifications >< |
| 07:46.57 | comawhite | because I hate pidgin |
| 07:47.01 | nesquick | :)) |
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| 07:47.34 | nesquick | anyway...macos and windows yahoo messenger users can't see my avatar |
| 07:47.41 | comawhite | you know I tried to make my fresh system not use gtk but it some how stills get onto my system >.< |
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| 07:48.15 | nesquick | i used gtk 3years... |
| 07:48.19 | arussel | how can I disable plasma ? |
| 07:48.42 | arussel | I have a plasma bug that makes it impossible to login :-( |
| 07:49.08 | drantin | disable plasma, or desktop-effects? |
| 07:49.38 | drantin | i.e. compositing |
| 07:49.42 | arussel | drantin: plasma. I get an error report and black screen after login. |
| 07:50.10 | drantin | arussel: you can't really disable plasma... |
| 07:50.40 | comawhite | arussel, could be your video drivers? |
| 07:51.09 | arussel | comawhite: nvidia with nvidia driver, was working fine untill today. |
| 07:51.24 | comawhite | arussel, upgraded your kernel? |
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| 07:52.21 | arussel | comawhite: I am using kubuntu, I don't think there were a kernel upgrade. And I get the login screen so the driver is ok I believe |
| 07:52.40 | comawhite | hmm |
| 07:52.53 | arussel | comawhite: where can I see the error report ? |
| 07:52.57 | comawhite | do you have multiple kde versions? |
| 07:53.03 | arussel | comawhite: no |
| 07:53.28 | comawhite | because I think I had a smiliar problem like that when I had kde-4.1.3 and kde-svn installed |
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| 07:54.30 | comawhite | that was why i asked |
| 07:54.53 | arussel | I was looking at /var/log but couldn't find anything there. Where can I find error messages ? |
| 07:54.55 | comawhite | but can you check your xorg log? |
| 07:55.08 | comawhite | i forgot where it is stored |
| 07:55.22 | gothats | so I'm confused. I'm looking at http://kde.org/download/#v4.2 |
| 07:55.33 | SAS_Spidey01 | xorg log, probably /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
| 07:55.33 | gothats | which should be the section for kde 4.2 |
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| 07:55.51 | gothats | but it then proceeds to say "KDE 4.1 consists of the following source packages" |
| 07:56.02 | gothats | and all of those tarballs are version 4.1.80 |
| 07:56.04 | arussel | I don't have error in Xorg.0.log |
| 07:56.07 | gothats | is that 4.1 or 4.2? |
| 07:56.20 | comawhite | 4.1.80 = 4.2. b1 4.1.85 = 4.2 b2 |
| 07:56.29 | gothats | cool, thanks |
| 07:56.38 | comawhite | no problem |
| 07:56.47 | arussel | I think my problem is plasma specific, not X related |
| 07:57.15 | comawhite | I honestly don't know what else. I'm stumped then |
| 07:58.08 | comawhite | 1 month away from hopefully having 4.2 released :DDDDD |
| 07:58.41 | comawhite | thiago_home, hey do you know where to get language packs? |
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| 08:00.26 | gothats | another thing I'm confused about. Phonon is part of kdesupport, but is included with the build of kdelibs? |
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| 08:06.17 | shuang | everyone here, can I ask a question? The new features in KDE4 are kickoff, plasma, dolphin and decibel, right? |
| 08:06.59 | arussel | I found the stack trace, apparently it goes inside notes applet before crashing. Where can I remove the note applet ? |
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| 08:16.56 | arussel | I have this call in the stack trace: |
| 08:17.00 | arussel | #9 0xb7c84585 in Plasma::Applet::flushPendingConstraintsEvents () |
| 08:17.09 | arussel | is there a way to disable Applet ? |
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| 08:18.11 | krege | hi! i try to make l10n from svn, but get an error |
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| 08:18.15 | krege | index.docbook:81: parser error : Entity 'systemsettings' not defined |
| 08:18.33 | krege | can i make somthing to fix it? |
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| 08:32.01 | gothats | I don't suppose there are pages describing each kde package |
| 08:32.23 | gothats | like, can you find out what's in kdetoys without downloading it and trying to find a readme file? |
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| 08:35.42 | Ketrel | Question, I'm compiled some widgets but they're not showing up in the listing |
| 08:35.48 | Ketrel | do I need to do something special? |
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| 08:41.49 | Jucato | gothats: http://userbase.kde.org/Applications |
| 08:42.02 | Ketrel | I did "cmake -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=/usr/lib/kde4", then "make", then "sudo make install" |
| 08:42.16 | Ketrel | but the two I did don't show up in add widgets |
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| 08:42.34 | Jucato | Ketrel: you might need to restart plasma: Alt+F2, "kquitapp plasma && plasma" |
| 08:44.33 | Ketrel | Jucato: no change |
| 08:44.42 | Ketrel | did I do something wrong? |
| 08:44.51 | Jucato | are you sure kde4 is installed in /usr/lib/kde4? |
| 08:44.54 | Ketrel | (plasma did restart, by no change, I mean still not showing up) |
| 08:45.02 | Ketrel | Jucato that directory does exist |
| 08:45.07 | Ketrel | lemme check |
| 08:45.17 | Jucato | (and did make/make install work in the first place?) |
| 08:45.35 | Jucato | the question is not whether it exists (after make install, it will exist), but whether kde4 is there |
| 08:45.48 | Ketrel | What should I look for to determine as much |
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| 08:47.25 | Ketrel | ok something is up |
| 08:47.31 | Ketrel | the make install put it |
| 08:47.34 | freeedrich| | Ketrel: echo $(kde4-config --prefix) |
| 08:48.12 | Ketrel | /usr/lib/kde4/lib/kde4/ |
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| 08:48.27 | freeedrich| | ouch? |
| 08:48.28 | Bou | tadam |
| 08:48.34 | freeedrich| | well.. that's the path then.. |
| 08:48.46 | Jucato | Ketrel: that's what you should feed INSTALL_PREFIX |
| 08:48.48 | Ketrel | freeedrich|: /usr |
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| 08:49.07 | Ketrel | DO OVER lol |
| 08:49.08 | Jucato | <PROTECTED> |
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| 08:49.21 | Ketrel | $(kde4-config --prefix) = /usr |
| 08:49.32 | Ketrel | cmake -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=/usr/lib/kde4" put them in /usr/lib/kde4/lib/kde4/ |
| 08:49.33 | freeedrich| | cmake -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=$(kde4-config --prefix) && make &&sudo make install |
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| 08:49.52 | Bou | oh |
| 08:49.56 | freeedrich| | oops, && sudo make install of course |
| 08:50.03 | Bou | are you trying to install some plasmoids? |
| 08:50.10 | Jucato | freeedrich|: you already put sudo make install :) |
| 08:50.52 | Jucato | (although actually the cmake command should be done in a build directory away from the source directory...) |
| 08:51.07 | Ketrel | when I do that it complains about the CMakeFiles.txt not being there |
| 08:51.30 | freeedrich| | Jucato: right - but the sudo was wrong, since it was lead by && ;) |
| 08:51.48 | Jucato | freeedrich|: ah:) |
| 08:51.54 | Jucato | didn't see the lack of the space :) |
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| 08:52.37 | Ketrel | should I copy the cmakefiles.txt file? |
| 08:52.43 | freeedrich| | no |
| 08:52.53 | Ketrel | then why does it always complain about a lack of one |
| 08:53.01 | Ketrel | which is what confuses me |
| 08:53.20 | Ketrel | here lemme do over |
| 08:53.24 | Ketrel | see what happens |
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| 08:54.00 | freeedrich| | go to the source dir.. type mkdir build_dir && cd build_dir cmake -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=$(kde4-config --prefix) .. && make && sudo make install |
| 08:54.00 | Jucato | in the source directory of the plasmoid, "mkdir build && cd build", "cmake -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=(kde4-config --prefix) .." (take note of the ..), then "make && sudo make install" |
| 08:54.11 | Jucato | whistles |
| 08:54.14 | freeedrich| | Jucato: :P |
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| 08:54.32 | freeedrich| | though I'm missing a && this time :D |
| 08:54.51 | Jucato | you and your &&'s! |
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| 08:56.03 | Ketrel | freeedrich| |
| 08:56.07 | freeedrich| | Jucato: you are missing a & though :P |
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| 08:56.45 | Ketrel | CMake Error: The source directory "/home/andrew/Widget_Compile/plasmaspacer_0.1/build" does not appear to contain CMakeLists.txt |
| 08:57.00 | Jucato | Ketrel: did you take note of the ".." in the cmake command? :) |
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| 08:57.14 | Ketrel | nope |
| 08:57.22 | Ketrel | lol |
| 08:57.31 | Jucato | now you know why |
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| 08:58.52 | Ketrel | ok, it worked (but I had to restart plasma, is there any way to avoid that?) |
| 08:59.07 | freeedrich| | install them through GHNS :) |
| 08:59.25 | freeedrich| | but there never will be cpp plasmoids to download |
| 09:00.18 | Ketrel | GHNS? |
| 09:00.24 | Jucato | Get Hot New Stuff |
| 09:00.54 | Ketrel | After I compile them, is there any way to install them myself such that they appear without restarting plasma? |
| 09:01.04 | Ketrel | (otherwise I'm just gonna make a script :\ ) |
| 09:01.10 | Jucato | not that I know off |
| 09:02.13 | Bou | kbuildsycoca4? |
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| 09:02.51 | birnisson | hi, I have kde4 on two machines and on both when I open a window I often get a noise rectangle at first. any workaround? |
| 09:02.59 | Bou | Ketrel: you want your newly installed plasmoids to show up in the plasmoids list without restarting plasma? |
| 09:03.08 | Ketrel | Bou, yes |
| 09:03.42 | Bou | Ketrel: I use "kbuildsycoca4" for this, if anyone can confirm.. Jucato, freeedrich| ? |
| 09:03.53 | Ketrel | just that command |
| 09:03.56 | Ketrel | as is? |
| 09:03.58 | Bou | yes |
| 09:04.09 | Ketrel | I got one more to install, lsets see if it works |
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| 09:04.32 | Bou | i got it from a forum post, it works for me.. i don't know how it works though :) |
| 09:04.46 | freeedrich| | beware if you got 3.5.x installed on the same machine. |
| 09:04.54 | freeedrich| | --no-incremental is needed then I believe. |
| 09:05.12 | Jucato | last time I tried, kbuildsycoca4 for that, it didn't work |
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| 09:05.21 | Ketrel | well I will try now |
| 09:05.47 | Bou | Jucato: what is actually "kbuildsycoca4" made for ? |
| 09:06.06 | Jucato | KDE Build System Configuration Cache |
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| 09:06.31 | Bou | Jucato: you made it clearer :) |
| 09:06.36 | Ketrel | looks like it worked o.O |
| 09:06.45 | Bou | yiha |
| 09:06.59 | Bou | Ketrel: what distro are you on? |
| 09:07.05 | Ketrel | this time Kubuntu |
| 09:07.15 | Bou | Ketrel: me too |
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| 09:07.33 | Ketrel | XP on Main desktop, Kubuntu on laptop, Fedora on older desktop |
| 09:07.34 | Bou | Jucato: on what distro have you tried "kbuildsycoca4" last time? |
| 09:07.57 | Jucato | built KDE from source |
| 09:08.08 | Jucato | I could be wrong of course. that "last time" was loong ago |
| 09:08.18 | Bou | but on Kubuntu too? |
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| 09:08.23 | Bou | or other Linux distrib? |
| 09:08.39 | Jucato | other |
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| 09:10.14 | Bou | Jucato: yesterday I built the minimum of KDE from trunk (kdelibs, kdepimlibs, kdebase) |
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| 09:10.26 | Bou | Jucato: is this enough to run a kde session with last plasma updates? |
| 09:10.33 | Bou | Jucato: or do i need other modules? |
| 09:10.48 | Jucato | it's enough |
| 09:12.31 | Bou | Jucato: thanks, will launch this very soon then |
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| 09:20.12 | zubair | #Fedora |
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| 09:27.02 | Aroma | abcdef |
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| 09:30.37 | sigma20 | guys when is qt 4.5 due out? |
| 09:30.51 | sigma20 | will it be in kde4.2? |
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| 09:39.29 | Rasi | sigma20: most likely not |
| 09:39.50 | Rasi | hah |
| 09:39.57 | Rasi | anyone seen those gnome3 mockups? |
| 09:40.10 | Rasi | gosh, they took so many ideas from kde4, its a half rip-off |
| 09:40.17 | Rasi | which is good |
| 09:40.17 | GNU\colossus | url? |
| 09:40.32 | Rasi | http://derstandard.at/?url=/?id=1227288419058 |
| 09:40.40 | Rasi | text is german :/ |
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| 09:42.04 | GNU\colossus | well, I'm from Austria |
| 09:42.27 | GNU\colossus | it's strange that one of our local newspapers publishes such a story, seemingly exclusively |
| 09:42.28 | Rasi | to sum it up: they have "activities" (and even name them activities), they have a all-in-one desktop shell, that includes the panel and stuff, metacity is a 3d window manager now... etc... |
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| 09:43.51 | Rasi | http://blog.fishsoup.net/2008/11/22/gnome-shell-status/ |
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| 09:44.00 | Rasi | there you see at least part of it too |
| 09:44.12 | Rasi | but yea.. i wasnt able to find such a complete story in english |
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| 09:48.17 | birnisson | so, no ideas about noisy rectangles being drawn before the actual window come up? |
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| 09:49.21 | fxd | is there a cups config tool? |
| 09:49.45 | pusling | fxd: in 4.2 |
| 09:50.21 | fxd | name? |
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| 10:02.39 | Mooby | hi |
| 10:02.48 | Rasi | Hello |
| 10:03.23 | Mooby | I'm using kmail (from kde 4.2 beta) with an LDAP adress book. How can I say to search for email only after 3 or 4 chars ? |
| 10:03.50 | Mooby | because I have too much entries in the LDAP server and it blocks the GUI for 5-10s ... |
| 10:04.33 | Rasi | thats probably a better question for #kontact |
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| 10:05.32 | fxd | pusling: name |
| 10:05.57 | pusling | system-config-printer-kde |
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| 10:37.38 | webmind | good day |
| 10:38.06 | webmind | I discovered kwebdesktop which looks really nice. |
| 10:38.44 | webmind | I was just wondering if there was a library which this calls, or if there is any documentation instead of --help |
| 10:39.23 | webmind | looking into a making a interface of some sort to it. |
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| 10:44.33 | Richlv | is it just me or is kde bugzilla a bit broken ? (opera) |
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| 10:44.43 | Richlv | buttons have white backgrounds, no images displayed... |
| 10:44.59 | Richlv | they also seem to be located incorrectly |
| 10:45.24 | comawhite | i wish you could select plasmas on the desktop and align them |
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| 11:06.43 | millun | hi what's a decent text editor? |
| 11:06.49 | GNU\colossus | vim |
| 11:06.49 | Cephalon | is away: busy busy |
| 11:07.06 | millun | i mean kde one |
| 11:07.11 | Jucato | since this is the #kde channel, the default answer would be "kwrite" or "kate" |
| 11:07.20 | millun | i hate to use krusader's built-in. it sucks |
| 11:07.30 | GNU\colossus | wants kvim back |
| 11:07.48 | millun | there was such a thing? |
| 11:07.57 | GNU\colossus | up to kde 3.4 iirc |
| 11:08.08 | GNU\colossus | it had its share or problems though |
| 11:08.10 | Jucato | iirc it was a failed attempt |
| 11:08.11 | GNU\colossus | of* |
| 11:08.27 | GNU\colossus | well, it basically worked quite fine, but not always ;) |
| 11:08.41 | GNU\colossus | I'd still like to see a KDE editor with vim at its core |
| 11:09.24 | Jucato | that would not be a KDE editor, but a KDE wrapper around vim. |
| 11:09.39 | Jucato | in any case, kate/katepart has gained vim-like commands (but not vim itself) |
| 11:09.55 | Jucato | and there's yzis, which is a different project with a different goal though |
| 11:10.07 | Jucato | (yzis was kvim afaik) |
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| 11:14.47 | comawhite | GNU\colossus, there was gvim |
| 11:15.07 | comawhite | GNU\colossus, kate has vim bindings |
| 11:15.14 | Jucato | which is not KDE nor even Qt :) |
| 11:15.27 | comawhite | gvim i know |
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| 11:17.19 | comawhite | meh i don't care about vim. I use nano |
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| 11:17.21 | comawhite | hides |
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| 11:18.02 | Jucato | yes. you better hide :) |
| 11:18.06 | comawhite | :P |
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| 11:18.18 | comawhite | throws a vista disk at Jucato |
| 11:18.32 | Jucato | counters with a :q! |
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| 11:18.41 | comawhite | o_O |
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| 11:19.31 | Jucato | comawhite: Ctrl+X, "N" in nano :) |
| 11:19.40 | comawhite | :P |
| 11:20.04 | comawhite | atleast I don't need a bible to use nano :P |
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| 11:21.42 | Sput | uses joe on the shell |
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| 11:23.26 | Gigantic | *coff coff emacs |
| 11:24.49 | stoned | hey |
| 11:24.53 | stoned | xjed |
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| 11:51.54 | Gigantic | I use Openoffice writer to edit /etc config files |
| 11:51.57 | Gigantic | so what? |
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| 11:52.12 | Gigantic | at least it start faster than emacs |
| 11:53.04 | tuxick | hehe |
| 11:53.26 | Gigantic | id like to use vi |
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| 11:53.49 | Gigantic | but the keyshortcuts drivwe me crazy, I can 't stand them |
| 11:54.34 | Gigantic | ESC :qa ESC :x ESC :wq ... arghhhhhhh....... Ctrl+Z killall -9 vi vim |
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| 12:31.04 | jad4 | guys do you know if the current plasma memory leaks are Nvidia related? or also affecting ATI users? |
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| 12:33.46 | Half-Left | jad4: 180.16 solves it(for me anyway) |
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| 12:43.23 | jad4 | Half-Left: ah great |
| 12:43.28 | jad4 | Half-Left: I'm with ATI |
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| 12:44.32 | jad4 | Half-Left: 180.16? what is that? is it release 4.1.80? |
| 12:44.39 | jad4 | or something like that |
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| 12:46.34 | Half-Left | jad4: nvidia beta driver |
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| 13:01.20 | zubair | #Fedora |
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| 13:10.18 | zakia | i have this problem http://humanreadable.nfshost.com/howtos/kde_shutdown.htm on my F10 |
| 13:10.36 | zakia | I don't get the restart button |
| 13:11.20 | Gigantic | permisions? |
| 13:11.21 | zakia | my /etc/inittab looks ok |
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| 13:11.32 | Gigantic | ewww |
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| 13:12.52 | Gigantic | zakia: sudo -c kcmshell kdm -u root |
| 13:13.08 | Gigantic | zakia: don't touch stuff under /etc |
| 13:13.36 | Gigantic | I mean: ksudo -c kcmshell kdm -u root |
| 13:14.38 | Gigantic | arg |
| 13:14.52 | Gigantic | I'm such and idiot... it's kdesu |
| 13:15.01 | Gigantic | :p |
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| 13:20.55 | zakia | Gigantic: i ran kdesu -c kcmshell kdm -u root i am not sure what it did i will reboot from the shell now and see |
| 13:21.32 | Gigantic | zakia: it's not windowz, no need to reboot |
| 13:22.21 | zakia | well then it did not fix my dialog box yet |
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| 13:23.05 | Gigantic | zakia: ah, are you using kdm4? |
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| 13:23.21 | Gigantic | try the same but with kdm4 instead of kdm |
| 13:23.22 | zakia | how can i figure it out |
| 13:23.33 | Gigantic | or maybe you have gdm... better ask in #defora |
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| 13:24.17 | Gigantic | ack... #fedora |
| 13:24.22 | rniamo_ | hi, is it possible to have "extract here" in the menu of dolphin ? |
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| 13:25.03 | Gigantic | rniamo_: Konqueror ftw |
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| 13:25.43 | Jucato | rniamo_, Gigantic: it doesn't matter whether it's Dolphin or Konqueror. The context menu is provided by Ark, which doesn't have that feature in KDE 4.1 yet |
| 13:26.11 | Jucato | alternatively, you can probably use/create a service menu (kde-apps.org perhaps), which works in both Dolphin and Konqueror |
| 13:26.57 | Gigantic | Jucato: true |
| 13:27.23 | Gigantic | but isn't Ark the one kind of broken at the moment? |
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| 13:28.08 | Jucato | depends on what you mean by "broken". atm (4.1) it doesn't have that "extract here" in Dolphin/Konqueror. I think it's in 4.2 already |
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| 13:29.54 | Gigantic | Jucato: meaning that not all features have been ported yet |
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| 13:30.12 | Jucato | I just mentioned one :) |
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| 13:30.24 | Gigantic | exact |
| 13:30.25 | Jucato | but that doesn't really qualify as "broken" (except that is how you defined it) |
| 13:30.46 | Gigantic | yeah... that's why the "kinda" :P |
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| 13:42.50 | zakia_ | <PROTECTED> |
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| 13:43.17 | zakia_ | i got back all the restart function i was looking for on my f10 |
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| 13:52.05 | zakia_ | i have a machine kde works with a new user but with my old login i get a white screen where should i start ? |
| 13:53.54 | Half-Left | KDE version? |
| 13:54.02 | zakia_ | 4.1 |
| 13:54.24 | zakia_ | kubuntu 8.1 with lastest updates |
| 13:55.10 | Half-Left | can you Alt, f2 ? |
| 13:58.30 | Salze | zakia_: Did you have desktop effects enabled? |
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| 13:59.29 | zakia_ | not alt F2 . and yesthe effects are enabled |
| 13:59.47 | zakia_ | on that user |
| 13:59.49 | Salze | Are they enabled with the new user, too? |
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| 14:00.02 | zakia_ | yes and they are ok there |
| 14:01.07 | zakia_ | but maybe not exactly the same options . I am unsure how I should compare the settings and solve this white screen ...... |
| 14:01.15 | Salze | Then I have no idea besides deleting the contents of the .kde directory bit by bit (make a backup beforehand, of course) and re-login in between. |
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| 14:03.33 | Salze | Or you can try to disable desktop effects in .kde/share/config/kwinrc. |
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| 14:03.55 | Salze | That's section [Compositing] |
| 14:05.11 | zakia_ | what there is no such section |
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| 14:07.32 | zakia_ | i will try a few things then i will trydeleting .kde |
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| 14:09.07 | Jucato | be aware that deleting .kde will delete both configuration and application data (mail, chat/IM logs, etc) |
| 14:09.18 | zakia_ | the only thing that works is atl ctrl backspace |
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| 14:29.42 | SyntaxRebel | can anybody guess why im getting this error when building kde-base-workspace? |
| 14:29.43 | SyntaxRebel | http://pastie.org/339582 |
| 14:29.52 | SyntaxRebel | from the 4.2 beta 1 tarball |
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| 14:31.07 | SyntaxRebel | im using gobolinux |
| 14:31.31 | SyntaxRebel | "/Programs/KDE-Base-Workspace/4.1.80/ is the target directory |
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| 14:32.44 | dustman | 'lo |
| 14:32.58 | dustman | anyone have problem opening links from any program beside konqueror in desktopbsd? |
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| 14:33.03 | dustman | it could be hanged kinit proccess or simply no response |
| 14:33.07 | SyntaxRebel | and i cant find "powermanagementinhibitadaptor.cpp" anywhere in the source tree |
| 14:33.20 | dustman | kde 3.5 |
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| 14:35.39 | tuxick | what's the executable to start knewsticker |
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| 14:37.25 | pinotree | tuxick: which version? |
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| 14:38.09 | tuxick | knewsticker-3.5.10 |
| 14:38.41 | pinotree | it is a kicker applet |
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| 14:39.36 | tuxick | ok let's rephrase, how to start it from commandline? |
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| 14:40.37 | pinotree | rephrase: it is a kicker applet, so you have to add it to your kicker |
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| 14:41.04 | tuxick | ok i see :) |
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| 14:51.36 | FoxM | Hi. I am looking for a simple KDE application that just notify me about mails that arrive at an account. I do not need to retrieve the mails, I just need to know that a mail has arrived. Any suggestions? |
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| 14:51.53 | Jucato | korn (I think) |
| 14:52.02 | thiago | kbiff |
| 14:52.05 | thiago | probably not maintained |
| 14:52.23 | FoxM | thanks.... let me check ;) |
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| 15:03.27 | gustavonarea | Hi. I've just upgraded to 4.2 Beta 1 from 4.1.3 on Kubuntu and I find that my wallets in kwalletmanager are lost |
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| 15:04.06 | gustavonarea | kwalletmanager shows _no_ wallet available, but I can see a wallet at /home/gustavo/.kde/share/apps/kwallet (but I try to open it with kwalletmanager and I can't) |
| 15:04.35 | thiago | has any other application lost their config? |
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| 15:06.01 | gustavonarea | thiago: no, as far as I can see. Konqueror is working with my customizations. Though Kontact crashes at startup (I guess that's because it doesn't get the passwords from kwalletmanager) |
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| 15:06.21 | thiago | that's really weird |
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| 15:06.38 | thiago | run this: kde4-config --localprefix |
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| 15:07.11 | gustavonarea | thiago: /home/gustavo/.kde/ |
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| 15:08.05 | thiago | I don't know what it is |
| 15:08.10 | thiago | oh, wait |
| 15:08.14 | thiago | is kwalletd running? |
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| 15:08.51 | gustavonarea | thiago: no |
| 15:08.55 | thiago | start it |
| 15:09.06 | Nikerabbit | aaaaaafewf |
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| 15:09.53 | Nikerabbit | sorry, scim stole my keyboard; which brings me, where should I set the environment variables in kde4 so that scim works in kde4 applications? |
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| 15:10.42 | microtico1 | doesn't amarok 2.0 support postgre? |
| 15:10.49 | microtico1 | or sqlite? |
| 15:10.59 | Jucato | microtico1: no. only MySQL Embedded |
| 15:11.01 | microtico1 | I would hate to use mysql sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo much |
| 15:11.04 | gustavonarea | thiago: sorry, how can I do that? I've already tried at K-Menu -> System Settings -> Advanced -> Service Manager and I can't find it |
| 15:11.12 | microtico1 | Jucato: ='( |
| 15:11.54 | Jucato | gustavonarea: System Settings -> Advanced -> KDE Wallet, is it enabled? |
| 15:12.14 | gustavonarea | thiago: there's a "KDED Passwword Manager" running |
| 15:12.18 | gustavonarea | thiago: yes, it's enabled |
| 15:12.52 | microtico1 | Jucato: I'll sticck to the 1.x until then... I don't think psql backend will be back isn't it |
| 15:13.31 | Jucato | it won't. see the amarok website for more information (like why) |
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| 15:13.45 | Jucato | and afaik it's not mysql itself but msyql *embedded* |
| 15:13.53 | microtico1 | Jucato: then I'm switching out from Amarok =\ |
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| 15:14.56 | mousse | hi everyone |
| 15:16.42 | mousse | can some help me how to install applications on fedora?? |
| 15:17.05 | microtico1 | sure |
| 15:17.09 | microtico1 | #fedora |
| 15:17.27 | mousse | fedora9 |
| 15:17.56 | mousse | like amsn |
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| 15:29.21 | microtico1 | is terribly sad about amarok droping away postgre =(( |
| 15:29.41 | thiago | dropping? |
| 15:29.56 | microtico1 | yea :( |
| 15:30.07 | thiago | when was it ever supported? |
| 15:30.23 | microtico1 | but no other app out there to support my gigantic music db |
| 15:30.39 | thiago | MySQLe can't support your music DB? |
| 15:30.43 | microtico1 | think I am making a webapp |
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| 15:30.59 | microtico1 | thiago: mysql and I don't mix |
| 15:31.06 | thiago | why not? |
| 15:31.13 | microtico1 | conflicting karmatic dependencies |
| 15:31.18 | thiago | again, why? |
| 15:31.31 | thiago | you're imposing senseless requirements on a frontend |
| 15:32.13 | microtico1 | ok... 7 years using postgre with 0 errors... max time using a mysql without it to corrup or break in some way: 2 weeks |
| 15:32.21 | microtico1 | imagine... |
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| 15:32.47 | thiago | that says something about you, not MySQL |
| 15:32.49 | microtico1 | once I entered a job and the server crashed the same day I entered to work... and I didn't even touch my computer still! |
| 15:33.21 | thiago | but, in any case, I don't remember postgresql ever being supported in amarok2 |
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| 15:33.48 | Nikerabbit | I would believe most people don't consider amarok and amarok2 two different applications |
| 15:33.58 | thiago | well, internally they are |
| 15:34.07 | microtico1 | thiago: two days ago: 1) install mysql 2) change root passwd... erro... gor to #mysql... permisions were messed up |
| 15:34.12 | microtico1 | but why? |
| 15:34.15 | thiago | like most KDE apps, most internals are rewritten |
| 15:34.21 | thiago | why what? |
| 15:34.29 | microtico1 | no idea, and you cna't blame I did something wrong... I just did nothing :P |
| 15:34.44 | thiago | sounds like you didn't like it, then found a way to make it break |
| 15:34.55 | thiago | I've been using MySQL for 6 years and never had a problem |
| 15:34.59 | microtico1 | thiago: it was supported in 1.x |
| 15:35.20 | Nikerabbit | so, nobody has any ideas how to get scim/skim/something to work in kde4 too? |
| 15:35.41 | microtico1 | well my gf believe in horoscopes, I don't... but I really have bad luck with mysql |
| 15:35.53 | microtico1 | call it cosmic connection or w/e |
| 15:36.24 | thiago | microtico1: let me ask you this: have you found a webpage that says Amarok2 will not support postgresql? |
| 15:36.24 | thiago | ever? |
| 15:36.25 | microtico1 | Nikerabbit: old one still work |
| 15:36.27 | vbgunz | khotkeys are nborked in 4.1.3. ok, I read the bug report but in it there is a link to a solution that actually works. the thing is, you have to get it through google cache. anyhow, how do I reset khotkeys configuration *because* after looking at it, it has plenty of duplicates. I'd like to *freshen* it so I deleted ~/.kde/share/config/khotkeysrc *but* they still show up under khotkeys :/ |
| 15:36.33 | microtico1 | Nikerabbit: not ported yet as I know |
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| 15:37.32 | Nikerabbit | microtico1: well, it works, I know... but I can't get kde4 to automatically pick it up |
| 15:37.45 | Nikerabbit | it works fine in firefox and non-kde4 applications though |
| 15:38.03 | microtico1 | thiago: it doesn't say no... that is right, but not at the moment, and embeding mysql is not the best signal |
| 15:38.43 | thiago | microtico1: because *you* had problems with mysql, it means mysql is bad for everyone? |
| 15:38.43 | microtico1 | Nikerabbit: rly? I have no issues |
| 15:38.43 | thiago | including the amarok developers who didn't have a problem with mysql and tried it? |
| 15:38.48 | microtico1 | thiago: no, but it is bad for me! |
| 15:39.11 | Nikerabbit | microtico1: really! I've tried ~/.profile ~/.kde4/{env,Autostart}, but none of those help |
| 15:39.24 | Nikerabbit | .xprofile that is |
| 15:39.30 | Nikerabbit | which works fine with kde3 and all |
| 15:39.53 | microtico1 | and opensource is among another things, about choice... I choose to go somewhere else |
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| 15:40.30 | microtico1 | Nikerabbit: I don't know, it just worked out of the Shell with me in suse, dunno |
| 15:40.44 | thiago | microtico1: have you tried amarok2 with mysqle? |
| 15:40.48 | thiago | microtico1: have you had problems? |
| 15:40.54 | microtico1 | amarok 2 crashes |
| 15:40.59 | microtico1 | can't try it atm |
| 15:41.28 | Nikerabbit | is there any way to search songs in amarok2? |
| 15:41.36 | microtico1 | thiago: besides, I have to port my db... |
| 15:42.29 | microtico1 | no like the biggest problem in the world... but still a big work to do because my music db is really huge |
| 15:42.31 | Half-Left | Nikerabbit: From the playlist, from the collection yes |
| 15:42.53 | Nikerabbit | Half-Left: haven't yet figured how to do that in playlist |
| 15:43.14 | Half-Left | You search from the collection and add to the playlist |
| 15:43.40 | Half-Left | playlist doesn't have a search option |
| 15:43.45 | microtico1 | and I don't really like the new interface that much anyways... too much stuff everywhere |
| 15:44.02 | Nikerabbit | Half-Left: then it is completely missing my use case |
| 15:44.07 | microtico1 | really, I am making webapp |
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| 15:44.24 | Half-Left | Why, you know what song you put in the playlist dont you? |
| 15:44.24 | HFC1 | Is there something like gnome-sword for KDE? |
| 15:44.33 | thiago | microtico1: http://mail.kde.org/pipermail/amarok/2008-April/005679.html |
| 15:44.40 | thiago | HFC1: what does gnome-sword do? |
| 15:44.53 | microtico1 | bibletime? |
| 15:44.56 | Mirra | it's a bible program |
| 15:44.57 | pinotree | bibletime |
| 15:45.07 | vbgunz | can anyone tell me how to RESTORE my default hotkeys? |
| 15:45.07 | Mirra | (actually I want to abuse it, but later more :D ) |
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| 15:45.10 | Mirra | thx :) |
| 15:45.43 | microtico1 | I had to gogle it :0 |
| 15:45.43 | microtico1 | :) |
| 15:45.43 | pinotree | bibletime.info |
| 15:45.43 | Nikerabbit | Half-Left: I mostly want to play them all, occassionally I want to play some specific one(s). Clearing and appending to playlist is much too hard compared to instant filtering |
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| 15:46.16 | graingert | hey, can one install kde (4win) on windows 98? |
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| 15:46.43 | thiago | graingert: no |
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| 15:46.54 | Half-Left | Nikerabbit: For now it's not a option, maybe in 2.1 it always has had alot of work done to it |
| 15:47.07 | thiago | graingert: please don't use DOS-based Windows or OS from the last century |
| 15:47.14 | graingert | thiago: only NT kernels? |
| 15:47.20 | thiago | graingert: yes |
| 15:47.24 | microtico1 | thiago: indeed... "it likely wont be" |
| 15:47.27 | vbgunz | this is nuts. khotkeys, isn't this an important app, does anyone use it? I backed up my khotkeysrc but I cannot restore it. wtf is going on? anybody? |
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| 15:47.42 | thiago | graingert: KDE will not compile with the old Microsoft compilers. |
| 15:48.00 | graingert | thiago:this is only for bragging rights kubuntu->virtualbox->windows 98->kde4 |
| 15:48.01 | thiago | graingert: and even if it did, we're dropping support for DOS-based Windows on Qt 4.5 too. |
| 15:48.18 | microtico1 | wow, w98 |
| 15:48.54 | graingert | yeah it's the only doze I had lying around that did not use a registration server |
| 15:49.00 | graingert | ie infinite installs |
| 15:49.19 | graingert | hey, does KDE work on reactOS I wonder? |
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| 15:49.34 | microtico1 | there is ways to get free licences... non-illegally |
| 15:50.12 | microtico1 | #reactos |
| 15:51.17 | microtico1 | thiago: actually now I think about it, I am getting excited about making an alternative... |
| 15:51.23 | graingert | microtico1: Caemyr>graingert: doubt that |
| 15:51.40 | graingert | Christoph_vW>graingert: QT isn't even working |
| 15:52.00 | thiago | microtico1: btw, akonadi's only backend right now is also MySQL, but they have said that PostgreSQL is supported, provided that someone helps them make it |
| 15:52.02 | graingert | seems not, you two need to comunicate a bit.... |
| 15:52.03 | microtico1 | ? |
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| 15:53.12 | microtico1 | thiago: heh, yeah, but I on' need a pim |
| 15:53.14 | microtico1 | :) |
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| 15:53.51 | tiago | hey there |
| 15:54.15 | Guest52152 | can anyone explain to me how do I donwload stuff from websvn.kde.org? |
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| 15:54.41 | microtico1 | man svn |
| 15:54.58 | thechef | I want knetworkmanager (or another application if there are any that can deal with WLAN easily) to daemonize the connection, so that the application can be closed and reopened reattaching to the running session and displaying it's state. And of course it should be possible to have the configuration system wide so it doesn't require starting X and logging in. Why isn't that by default, because it's extremely weird if something as low level as |
| 15:54.59 | pinotree | you cannot download from websvn, it is just a web interface |
| 15:54.59 | thechef | networking depends on the user interface (Xorg)? However - How can I change that? |
| 15:55.28 | Alcap | did that already... Do you think I have pleasure in bugging other people with my stupidity? |
| 15:55.41 | Alcap | pinotree, how do I get the files that are there then? |
| 15:55.52 | pinotree | you use the svn servr anonsvn.kde.org |
| 15:55.54 | microtico1 | thechef: what distro are you in? |
| 15:56.06 | Alcap | oh |
| 15:56.13 | Alcap | thanks, I'm going to try that :) |
| 15:56.19 | thechef | microtico1: debian lenny, but I have the same problem with Ubuntu Intrepid and Ubuntu Hardy |
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| 15:56.41 | thechef | Sorry, Kubuntu |
| 15:57.14 | microtico1 | thechef: suse has my fav one called kinternet |
| 15:57.25 | microtico1 | wish it was ported to other distros =\ |
| 15:57.30 | microtico1 | srry |
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| 15:58.53 | gustavonarea | How can I run "kwalletd" manually? It doesn't show up in System Settings -> Adavnced -> Service Manager |
| 15:59.17 | gustavonarea | I'm using KDE 4.2 Beta 1 |
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| 15:59.47 | thiago | yes, run: kwalletd |
| 16:02.18 | gustavonarea | I get this : http://paste.chrisarndt.de/paste/850ba77d66c8447abf2f291b8bb75425 - That's specific to the Kubuntu packages, not KDE 4 itself, right? |
| 16:02.38 | gustavonarea | thiago, sorry, forgot to ping you for the message above |
| 16:02.41 | thiago | yes |
| 16:02.52 | thiago | that's a kubuntu issue |
| 16:02.53 | gustavonarea | thiago: oh ok, thanks :) |
| 16:03.01 | thiago | that also explains why it didn't get automatically started |
| 16:03.10 | gustavonarea | hmm, I see |
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| 16:07.37 | ner0x | Where is the setting to put the taskbar on the top and also change the wallpaper of each of my screen individually? |
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| 16:07.59 | ner0x | kde 4.1. |
| 16:08.16 | thiago | ner0x: add a panel to the top and put the taskbar there |
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| 16:08.34 | estan | anyone with intel graphics find that e.g. the full screen tinting that happens when you show the plasma workspace is a bit slow towards the end of the fade-in effect? for me it's smooth for like the first 0.5 seconds, then it locks up for just an instant before continuing the fade-in. |
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| 16:09.20 | estan | i mean the dashboard. |
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| 16:10.34 | estan | and the scale effect when minimizing/maximizing windows is also a bit jerky for me. |
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| 16:11.48 | estan | and lazzo selection of many files/folders at once in dolphin/folderview ;) ok enough complaining. |
| 16:12.04 | estan | kde4 is getting so good that i'm starting to complain about small annoyances ;) |
| 16:12.39 | thiago | I know that feeling |
| 16:12.55 | Ketrel | The problem with weird graphical corruptions is an nvidia thing right? (Is it true that it's fixed in bleeding edge?) |
| 16:13.17 | estan | Ketrel: i've been having dramatically less corruptions with latest nvidia driver. |
| 16:13.28 | estan | (6600GT) |
| 16:13.37 | ner0x | My desktop doesn't show icon, how do I fix that? |
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| 16:14.13 | estan | ner0x: the desktop in kde4 doesn't have icons, if you want icons on your desktop, put a folderview applet there. |
| 16:14.31 | Half-Left | estan: Stop moaning and ranting about it being so good :p |
| 16:14.43 | ner0x | estan: That makes sense, I never liked icons anyway. How about setting wallpapers for two screens? |
| 16:14.59 | estan | ner0x: that i don't know unfortunately. |
| 16:15.02 | estan | Half-Left: :) |
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| 16:15.20 | mousse | hi |
| 16:15.21 | ner0x | estan: Also, my keyboard shortcuts don't seem to be working, is this feature working yet? |
| 16:15.50 | estan | ner0x: though.. thinking about it i am actually sitting in front of a kde4 with dual screen.. and the other screen has another background.. so it must be possible ;) |
| 16:16.09 | estan | ner0x: keyboard shortcuts should work, works here at least. |
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| 16:16.42 | ner0x | estan: I'll fix the shortcuts. I haven't seen any way to change it except on screen one. |
| 16:17.28 | estan | not sure how you mean exactly, for me shortcuts works on both my screens, they don't for you? |
| 16:17.49 | ner0x | None of my shortcuts work at all. |
| 16:17.55 | estan | hm. okay. weird. |
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| 16:20.03 | ner0x | estan: Is there something you have to enable to make hotkeys work? |
| 16:20.24 | estan | no it should work out of the box. not even e.g. Alt+F2 works for you? |
| 16:20.52 | ner0x | They work, but the ones I made don't. |
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| 16:21.21 | ner0x | http://ne00xide.homelinux.org/hotkeys.jpg |
| 16:21.44 | ner0x | estan: A screenshot I took. |
| 16:21.46 | estan | okay. then i don't know. i have changed to e.g. '$' to bring out Yakuake, and that worked. |
| 16:22.29 | estan | ok, sorry no idea. |
| 16:23.24 | ner0x | There should be more than just "All Shortcuts" in my menu correct? |
| 16:23.29 | Half-Left | Another Obsidian Coast user |
| 16:24.18 | Ketrel | estan: what driver are you using, |
| 16:24.28 | Ketrel | I'm using the highest from the Kubuntu 8.10 repos |
| 16:24.38 | estan | Ketrel: me too. |
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| 16:24.45 | estan | Ketrel: oh wait no. |
| 16:24.55 | estan | the nvidia one i've downloaded from nvidia. |
| 16:25.04 | estan | the intel one i'm using from 8.10 repo. |
| 16:25.14 | ner0x | What happens if I remove ~/.kde* from my system, all setting reset? |
| 16:25.26 | thiago | ner0x: yes |
| 16:25.29 | thiago | but not all |
| 16:25.34 | thiago | some things are in ~/.local |
| 16:25.37 | estan | nvidia releases new betas of their driver quite often, and the kubuntu repo doesn't have it. |
| 16:25.43 | ner0x | How can I reset the keyboard shortcuts? |
| 16:26.17 | Half-Left | Well thats Kubuntu's policy |
| 16:26.49 | estan | yea, not complaining. i don't think they should have beta drivers in the main repos. just saying ;) |
| 16:27.14 | estan | Ketrel: i think the one i'm using is 177.80-something. |
| 16:27.38 | estan | check the nvnews.net forums for the latest beta release. |
| 16:28.07 | Half-Left | Yer but depends on the version of distro, if it's the testing version then yer |
| 16:28.42 | Half-Left | Crappy performances or some bugs :p |
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| 16:30.56 | ner0x | thiago: How can I get all the default information back into Hotkey Settings? |
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| 16:31.33 | Q-collective | hey all, is there any way to resize the panel in kde 4.1.3? with 15 tray iconsthere isn't much room left for regular applications :') |
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| 16:32.04 | Ketrel | estan: I have the same one |
| 16:32.11 | cb400f | Q-collective: you want to make the panel wider than the screen? :-) |
| 16:32.42 | Q-collective | cb400f: I was more thinking in a vertical way actually ;) |
| 16:32.46 | Ketrel | Someone told me that this was fully fixed in some bleeding edge version, I was curious if anyone here could verify that |
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| 16:33.15 | cb400f | Q-collective: increasing it vertically will make the systray wider in 4.1 |
| 16:33.28 | Q-collective | :< |
| 16:33.29 | cb400f | you could decrease it of course |
| 16:33.50 | cb400f | if you have openSUSE, and maybe other distros that backported the multirow systray you could do some things |
| 16:33.57 | cb400f | including hiding icons |
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| 16:34.09 | Q-collective | ubuntu actually |
| 16:34.13 | cb400f | otherwise you have to wait for 4.2 |
| 16:34.17 | Half-Left | OMG, they backport that thing? |
| 16:34.20 | Q-collective | very well |
| 16:34.48 | Half-Left | Fedora 10 dont backport from what I've seen, and good thing to |
| 16:35.00 | cb400f | sure they do |
| 16:35.02 | Half-Left | Mulitirow |
| 16:35.07 | Half-Left | ^ |
| 16:35.09 | _RedGhost_ | Debian doesn't |
| 16:35.24 | Half-Left | Because it was a bit of a mess |
| 16:35.54 | estan | Ketrel: okay. |
| 16:36.13 | cb400f | _RedGhost_: debian doesn't even release kde4.. for the next 18 months or so |
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| 16:36.50 | Half-Left | What I meant to say was 'Fedora 10 do backport but not the multirow task bar from what I seen' |
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| 16:37.57 | MrRat2 | is there a way stop kmail from alternating colors, in the mail view? |
| 16:38.38 | cb400f | MrRat2: kde3? .. you can set the alternate colour to white in the colour settings.. but that'll affect other things too of course |
| 16:38.39 | _RedGhost_ | cb400f: well, it's available in experimental |
| 16:38.48 | _RedGhost_ | 4.1.3, at least |
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| 16:39.03 | MrRat2 | i set a dark theme system wide, and in kmail all the folders and mail message subjects alternate black/white, where the white ones use white text also |
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| 16:39.49 | MrRat2 | i dont see anything in settings set to use a white background |
| 16:40.07 | MrRat2 | kmail appears to be the only thing doing it |
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| 16:40.38 | MrRat2 | cb400f: kde4 |
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| 16:41.21 | cb400f | hm.. I never had the alternating background colours in 4.1 |
| 16:41.37 | cb400f | in lists |
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| 16:45.00 | Q-collective | how do I let the panel show applications only on the desktop on which the applications are? |
| 16:45.07 | Q-collective | in kde 4.1.3 |
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| 16:49.24 | cb400f | Q-collective: try right clicking on the taskbar -> taskbar settings... if you can find the taskbar for the systray taking up all the space ;-) |
| 16:49.54 | vit_ | is there a kmail specific channel somewhere? |
| 16:50.19 | cb400f | #kontact |
| 16:51.00 | Q-collective | cb400f: haha, ok |
| 16:51.01 | Q-collective | :p |
| 16:51.41 | Q-collective | thank you |
| 16:51.43 | Q-collective | :) |
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| 17:07.56 | SyntaxRebel | does anybody know why kde 4.1 completely ignores the fact i put "gb" as my layout in my xorg.conf? |
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| 17:08.15 | SyntaxRebel | i think im on "us" now... |
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| 17:09.04 | SyntaxRebel | when i try to change the layout in settings i get a "gb" layout without cursor keys |
| 17:09.14 | aseigo | SyntaxRebel: check in the system settings control panel for Keyboard |
| 17:09.23 | aseigo | ah. =) |
| 17:09.42 | aseigo | does it work if you don't put "gb" as your layout in xorg.conf? |
| 17:10.03 | SyntaxRebel | ill give that a go, brb |
| 17:10.07 | Nikerabbit | any ideas why scim/skim doesn't activate in kde4/kde4 apps while it works in others? |
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| 17:18.32 | heliedgar | hey |
| 17:18.42 | White_Pelican | oats :) |
| 17:18.46 | White_Pelican | just kidding |
| 17:18.53 | White_Pelican | hello heliedgar |
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| 17:19.55 | heliedgar | hey im gnome user for about 4 years |
| 17:19.58 | get | hi all |
| 17:20.15 | heliedgar | i want to know the advantages of kde on gnome |
| 17:20.18 | get | how to disable the kde asisstant on first kde3.5 run? |
| 17:20.20 | get | by default |
| 17:20.26 | White_Pelican | yes heliedgar, do you have a question? |
| 17:20.30 | get | and setting plastik and spanish as default lang? |
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| 17:21.02 | heliedgar | get where are u from? |
| 17:21.16 | get | originally or living? |
| 17:21.35 | heliedgar | both xD |
| 17:21.37 | get | now living in spain |
| 17:21.39 | get | but im german |
| 17:21.41 | get | XD |
| 17:21.44 | White_Pelican | heliedgar, from my standpoint, there is more eye candy in kde as opposed to gnome |
| 17:21.48 | heliedgar | entonces nos entendemos xD |
| 17:21.52 | get | sep |
| 17:22.06 | get | tu sabes como quitar el asistente q sale al primer inicio de kde? |
| 17:22.23 | heliedgar | jaja no he usado kde |
| 17:22.30 | heliedgar | vine aki para ver si hago el cambio |
| 17:22.30 | get | lol |
| 17:22.38 | get | pos instalatelo |
| 17:22.42 | get | y tira adelnte |
| 17:22.46 | get | pero te aconsejo kde3 |
| 17:22.51 | heliedgar | pero supongo que en la pantalla de inicio te marca si quieres qe siga saliendo no? |
| 17:22.58 | get | nope |
| 17:23.05 | ahmad | hello every body |
| 17:23.05 | get | solo sale en el first boot |
| 17:23.11 | heliedgar | mm |
| 17:23.12 | get | hey ahmad |
| 17:23.14 | White_Pelican | what language is this? |
| 17:23.18 | get | spanish |
| 17:23.28 | get | sorry for inconvenience |
| 17:23.39 | heliedgar | but kde are more efficent than gnome ? |
| 17:23.50 | ahmad | im new usr fo linux |
| 17:23.53 | get | i dont like gnome .... |
| 17:23.57 | get | i prefer xfce |
| 17:23.57 | get | xD |
| 17:24.03 | heliedgar | xD |
| 17:24.08 | heliedgar | i used too xD |
| 17:24.33 | ahmad | i want to use terminal to download mplayer |
| 17:24.38 | ahmad | whats command |
| 17:24.47 | heliedgar | apt-get install mplayer |
| 17:24.56 | heliedgar | sudo apt-get install mplayer |
| 17:25.21 | ahmad | with fedora core 9 |
| 17:25.25 | heliedgar | aa ok |
| 17:25.26 | heliedgar | xd |
| 17:25.28 | heliedgar | idk |
| 17:25.29 | ahmad | not ubunto |
| 17:25.33 | junkDawgie | its a distro dependant question, ahmad.... you should really ask in your distro's channel |
| 17:26.08 | ahmad | distro's???????????????????? |
| 17:26.15 | junkDawgie | fedora |
| 17:26.18 | heliedgar | wich use more memmory kde or gnome (xfce obiusly not xD)= |
| 17:26.19 | heliedgar | ? |
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| 17:27.49 | jay3dlinux | kdepepo >Thanks for the skulpture style ;) |
| 17:28.36 | heliedgar | get que distro tienes? |
| 17:28.43 | junkDawgie | indeed, kudos kdepepo.. (everytime i want to type kdepepto) |
| 17:28.44 | ahmad | any one from grmany here? |
| 17:29.18 | jay3dlinux | I managed to compile it on windows, but there's a problem with dockable windows not displaying the close and rest of buttons |
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| 17:31.31 | Xand3r | hey all |
| 17:31.37 | jay3dlinux | and CMake telling me some errors like that : install Library TARGETS given no DESTINATION! |
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| 17:32.31 | Xand3r | i changed in kde the color cheme but qt apps dont use it fully |
| 17:32.54 | ahmad | any one from germany plz |
| 17:33.03 | Xand3r | could some on help me get qt apps using my color scheme? |
| 17:33.05 | thiago_home | Xand3r: that's kind-of expected |
| 17:33.11 | thiago_home | port them to KDE code |
| 17:33.49 | ahmad | any one from germany plz |
| 17:33.49 | Xand3r | thiago_home: the problem i have also with the qtconfig and gtk-qt-engin |
| 17:34.01 | thiago_home | out-of-luck then |
| 17:34.09 | Xand3r | ahmad: i am german, what is the prolem? |
| 17:34.19 | thiago_home | we'll try to properly fix that for Qt 4.6 |
| 17:34.26 | thiago_home | didn't have time to do it for 4.5 |
| 17:34.58 | Zaister | I have a problem with my KDE 4.1.3: I can't start dolphin or kontact anymore. If I try from within Konsole, I get error messages about communication problems, "org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply". Can anyone help me? |
| 17:35.12 | thiago_home | is dbus-daemon running? |
| 17:35.15 | thiago_home | Zaister: ^^ |
| 17:35.23 | Zaister | i think so |
| 17:35.36 | Zaister | yes it is |
| 17:35.43 | thiago_home | how many instances of the process? |
| 17:35.50 | Zaister | the dbus process? |
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| 17:35.54 | thiago_home | yes, dbus-daemon |
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| 17:36.16 | Zaister | three |
| 17:36.27 | thiago_home | run this: qdbus |
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| 17:36.34 | Zaister | one with --dystem, and two with --fork etc, |
| 17:36.35 | Zaister | ok |
| 17:36.35 | thiago_home | do you get an error, or a listing of applications? |
| 17:36.59 | Zaister | a listing |
| 17:37.37 | thiago_home | ok, there goes my theory down the drain |
| 17:37.45 | thiago_home | can you start kopete? |
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| 17:37.59 | Zaister | yes |
| 17:38.19 | Zaister | btw, I just rebooted the system a few minutes ago |
| 17:39.05 | Zaister | hmm the kontact I started 11 minutes ago from the menu just came up |
| 17:39.06 | Zaister | weird |
| 17:39.28 | Zaister | no dolphin though |
| 17:39.54 | thiago_home | is web browsing normal in konqueror? |
| 17:40.15 | Zaister | I don't usually use konqueror, let me check |
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| 17:40.41 | Zaister | yes, that works |
| 17:40.52 | thiago_home | no delay, nothing weird? |
| 17:41.05 | Zaister | nope |
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| 17:41.16 | Zaister | cam up instantly and browsing seems normal |
| 17:41.16 | thiago_home | killall dolphin |
| 17:41.19 | Zaister | ok |
| 17:41.23 | thiago_home | then start it from the terminal |
| 17:42.14 | Zaister | nothing for about 15 seconds, then this: http://pastebin.com/m18779002 |
| 17:43.07 | thiago_home | 15 seconds? or 25 seconds? |
| 17:43.28 | Zaister | hm I estimated. i'll try again |
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| 17:44.31 | Zaister | 25 seconds. rather exactly actually |
| 17:44.38 | thiago_home | yep, thought so |
| 17:44.46 | thiago_home | that's the default timeout for that NoReply error you're seeing |
| 17:44.59 | thiago_home | that also means, unfortunately, I have no clue what the problem could be |
| 17:44.59 | Zaister | ah I see :) |
| 17:45.07 | Zaister | weird |
| 17:45.08 | thiago_home | as a workaround, start those apps with --nofork |
| 17:45.14 | thiago_home | e.g.: dolphin --nofork |
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| 17:46.04 | Zaister | 25 seconds is a weird default value :) |
| 17:46.12 | ecastelo | #linux_sensors |
| 17:46.29 | thiago_home | it was chosen to be long enough so that remote calls did complete under heavy load circumstances |
| 17:46.43 | Zaister | --nofork produces a similar result |
| 17:46.48 | thiago_home | but short enough that users wouldn't start wondering too much why their apps aren't working |
| 17:46.52 | thiago_home | or froze |
| 17:47.04 | Zaister | timeout with only one error message, but the pross doesn't return |
| 17:47.07 | Zaister | *process |
| 17:47.14 | Zaister | I see |
| 17:47.16 | thiago_home | in 25 seconds, you realise it's frozen, go "wtf?", tinker some, then it times out and comes back |
| 17:47.24 | Zaister | hehe |
| 17:47.44 | MrRat2 | anyone know how to get rid of the alternating colors in kmail/kontact lists? |
| 17:47.46 | thiago_home | it's also a good number, because if someone said "25 seconds", I know what they're talking about. No one rounds to 25. It's 15 or 30. |
| 17:47.55 | Zaister | that's true :) |
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| 17:48.01 | thiago_home | anyways, --nofork doesn't work either? |
| 17:48.06 | Zaister | no |
| 17:48.12 | Zaister | It's hanging now |
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| 17:48.41 | thiago_home | that's really, really weird |
| 17:49.07 | Zaister | I got the second error message from the pastebin after 25 sec, and then nothing |
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| 17:55.41 | get | how to disable on kde3 the firstrun asistant? |
| 17:56.26 | thiago_home | are you deploying a KDE 3 installation to multiple users? |
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| 18:07.28 | gustavonarea | whoever improved kmail's GUI in KDE 4.2 Beta 1: thanks, nice work! |
| 18:08.13 | thiago_home | likes it too |
| 18:08.13 | SSJ_GZ | gustavonarea: Head over to #kontact and give them a pat on the back :) |
| 18:08.20 | thiago_home | took some getting used to, though |
| 18:08.25 | Jucato | and cookies, while you're at it :) |
| 18:08.27 | Half-Left | Yes it rocks |
| 18:08.41 | SSJ_GZ | put cookies on their backs |
| 18:08.56 | Half-Left | Love the icons and configure options for the list |
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| 18:09.02 | gustavonarea | SSJ_GZ: I didn't know about that channel. Thanks! |
| 18:09.11 | SSJ_GZ | np :) |
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| 18:09.34 | Half-Left | You can iconify your mailing lists :p |
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| 18:10.07 | gustavonarea | Cool! I didn't know that. Gotta play a lot with it... |
| 18:10.57 | cumulus007 | why does konqueror not support svg? |
| 18:11.18 | Half-Left | Since when? lol |
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| 18:12.14 | cumulus007 | Half-Left: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/13/Mouse_mechanism_diagram.svg |
| 18:12.45 | Half-Left | Works fine |
| 18:13.01 | Half-Left | However |
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| 18:13.14 | cumulus007 | Half-Left: it saysL |
| 18:13.15 | cumulus007 | : |
| 18:13.17 | Half-Left | cumulus007: Does it not render at all for you? |
| 18:13.21 | cumulus007 | image/svg+xml |
| 18:13.59 | vit_ | I have a question: in kde I'm seeing gray borders around html fields in firefox |
| 18:14.04 | SSJ_GZ | Works in (3.5.10) |
| 18:14.07 | cumulus007 | that's the only thing konqueror says |
| 18:14.09 | SSJ_GZ | (svg) |
| 18:14.29 | Half-Left | cumulus007: You can bet alot of money on konqueror supporting SVG :p |
| 18:15.42 | Half-Left | Thats like saying firefox dont support html |
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| 18:16.41 | Half-Left | ok, maybe that was a little extreeme :p |
| 18:17.33 | Skrot- | renders fine here as well |
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| 18:19.05 | zubair | #Fedora |
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| 18:26.47 | ian^ | The "new message notifier" of kopete in the systray crashes in KDE 4.2 beta1. a) Is this known? (crash panel kopete finds no bugs on bko) b) How do I get a coredump/backtrace of the panel? |
| 18:28.08 | Half-Left | ian^: Yep, you need very latest qt-copy and svn |
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| 18:28.31 | Half-Left | (trunk) |
| 18:29.32 | ian^ | Half-Left: so, it's a known bug? |
| 18:29.45 | Half-Left | yes, extenders crash |
| 18:30.45 | Half-Left | Wait for beta2 should be out 16th |
| 18:30.45 | cghislai | btw someone can use the msn protocol in kopete? |
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| 18:30.58 | Half-Left | yes |
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| 18:31.39 | ian^ | cghislai: msn works for me. |
| 18:31.58 | ian^ | cghislai: unfortunately I told the only person i known in MSN about the crash... ;-) |
| 18:32.02 | Half-Left | cghislai: It's actually called WLM in 4.2 now |
| 18:32.25 | cghislai | yes |
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| 18:32.42 | cghislai | what server/port do you use? |
| 18:32.44 | Mooby | works for me too |
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| 18:32.53 | Mooby | only when shuting down, it crash :) |
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| 18:35.58 | ian^ | Mooby: kde 4.1.3? This crash is gone in 4.2beta1 (for me) |
| 18:36.45 | cghislai | ian^: you use default server adress for wlm? |
| 18:36.55 | cghislai | messenger.hotmail.com:1863? |
| 18:37.46 | ian^ | cghislai: i think so, i never changed anythin |
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| 18:39.54 | cghislai | i got "This means Kopete cannot reach the instant messaging server or peers...." error when trying to connect to msn |
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| 18:41.43 | farhad_hf | hi , i have a problem with compiling kopete (svn-trunk) . http://pastebin.ca/1286078 , can anybpdy help me ? |
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| 18:45.12 | Half-Left | farhad_hf: Tep, same issue, no doubt be fixed soon |
| 18:45.16 | Half-Left | Yep* |
| 18:46.25 | farhad_hf | Half-Left: tnx! :) |
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| 18:47.46 | Half-Left | farhad_hf: Your going to be using msn? |
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| 18:49.05 | snikker | Can i detect if i've pressed ok or cancel button, even if kdialog menu is into a variable? http://pastebin.com/d6e12c0fa |
| 18:49.07 | farhad_hf | Half-Left: no , i'm tring to compile kopete after updating the code... |
| 18:50.11 | Half-Left | yer but it you use msn I'm recommend you install libmsn |
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| 19:19.46 | gothats | Is there a named branch in svn that I can check out to get 4.2b2? |
| 19:20.01 | gothats | akin to getting 'branches/KDE/4.0/'? |
| 19:20.10 | Half-Left | trunk is 4.2 |
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| 19:20.33 | Half-Left | branches is 4.1.x |
| 19:20.46 | Jucato | there is no beta 2 yet |
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| 19:22.42 | gothats | and are there separate releases of the kdesupport packages for 4.0, 4.1, etc? |
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| 19:24.47 | gothats | if, for instance, I'm building the 4.1.80/4.2b1 packages, should I get a specific branch of the kdesupport packages to make sure everything's compatible? |
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| 19:25.17 | pinotree | trunk/kdesupport |
| 19:26.04 | gothats | ok cool |
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| 19:27.47 | Gigantic | weird stuff happen when your /tmp is encrypted |
| 19:28.12 | Gigantic | everything was "permission denied" all the sudden |
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| 19:33.27 | andy--- | I'm running 3.5. Does it come with any networking monitor so I can see traffic on each eth device? |
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| 19:36.39 | gothats | looks like ksysguard can do it |
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| 19:38.49 | andy--- | you're right |
| 19:38.50 | andy--- | thank you |
| 19:39.05 | d_mitry | sound worked in kde 3.5 and doesn't in 4.1. where to begin? using kubuntu 8.10. asked in #kubuntu. |
| 19:41.05 | gothats | I'm no expert, but I'd expect that stuff to be independent of the desktop environment |
| 19:41.39 | d_mitry | i see. thanks. |
| 19:42.32 | gothats | when I build alsa, it made a 'speaker-test' app, that just sends noise to the speakers |
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| 19:42.42 | gothats | maybe try that out? |
| 19:43.17 | d_mitry | alright. |
| 19:44.23 | pinheiro | how do i check what version of phonon i have instaled? |
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| 19:48.49 | Gigantic | d_mitry: did you correctly set audio output under "audio" ? |
| 19:49.13 | Gigantic | d_mitry: run: systemsettings |
| 19:49.22 | d_mitry | Gigantic: well, there wasn't much to set, considering that only pulseaudio is listed. |
| 19:49.24 | gothats | pinheiro: try 'pkg-config phonon --modversion' |
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| 19:49.43 | pinheiro | pkg? |
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| 19:49.54 | pinheiro | i build from sources |
| 19:49.56 | Gigantic | d_mitry: ew... there should be much more than just pulse, yes check in #kubuntu b4 |
| 19:49.56 | gothats | no |
| 19:49.59 | gothats | pkg-config |
| 19:50.18 | gothats | I build from sources too |
| 19:50.54 | gothats | alternatively, 'less <kdeprefix>/lib/pkgconfig/phonon.pc' |
| 19:51.00 | Gigantic | d_mitry: btw, gstreamer didn't work for me, also try xine |
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| 19:51.33 | pinheiro | k let me see |
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| 19:53.59 | d_mitry | Gigantic: yeah, that was default. neither work. |
| 19:54.00 | kde4 | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:54.02 | kde4 | Package phonon was not found in the pkg-config search path. |
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| 19:54.30 | colyte | Can anyone tell me if there's a way to make dolphin stream files over samba rather than insisting on downloading a local copy before viewing it? (typically video) |
| 19:55.00 | gothats | pinheirolap: where is your kde installed? |
| 19:55.07 | gothats | what prefix |
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| 19:56.57 | pinheirolap | "/home/kde4/kde" |
| 19:57.30 | gothats | so do 'less /home/kde4/kde/lib/pkgconfig/phonon.pc' |
| 19:59.27 | pinheirolap | Name: Phonon |
| 19:59.29 | pinheirolap | Description: Phonon library needed to build applications |
| 19:59.30 | pinheirolap | Version: 4.2.1 |
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| 19:59.50 | pinheirolap | humm intersting |
| 20:00.16 | Gigantic | d_mitry: you should be able to see your card listed, and pulse... two |
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| 20:00.26 | Gigantic | d_mitry: but no just pulse |
| 20:00.30 | eNTi | could someone please tell me how i activate my hotkeys? they are all but ignored... |
| 20:00.38 | eNTi | kde4 :) |
| 20:00.56 | d_mitry | Gigantic: amarok says that xine was unable to initialise any audio drivers. |
| 20:01.29 | Gigantic | eNTi: upgrade to Version 4.1.3 (KDE 4.1.3) |
| 20:01.36 | junkDawgie | need to run alsaconf... provided that alsafirmware is installed |
| 20:01.37 | Gigantic | I bet you have 4.1.2 |
| 20:01.40 | eNTi | Gigantic: i'm using kdemod 4.1.3 |
| 20:01.42 | Gigantic | or earlier |
| 20:01.49 | Gigantic | oh |
| 20:02.06 | d_mitry | junkDawgie: assuming that was at me, ok, i'll try that. |
| 20:02.11 | eNTi | but they updated some packages as of today and i didn't restart kde yet. |
| 20:02.51 | Gigantic | d_mitry: doesn't look like the card is being detected, check sound otherwise but looks like a system issue |
| 20:02.52 | junkDawgie | might help... d_mitry, sounds like no sound driver is present |
| 20:03.07 | Gigantic | ^ |
| 20:03.16 | kdepepo | nixternal, hm, is this reproducible? I haven't seen it crashing yet. |
| 20:03.22 | eNTi | any chance that i can debug kde somehow, to find out why my hotkeys are ignored? |
| 20:03.43 | Gigantic | eNTi: did you upgrade from a previous version? |
| 20:04.05 | eNTi | Gigantic: i just made some upgrades today. |
| 20:04.21 | Gigantic | eNTi: kde4 was upgraded? |
| 20:04.30 | eNTi | only kdemod |
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| 20:04.40 | d_mitry | Gigantic: ok. :) |
| 20:05.02 | sredna | will there be a version of khtml that does not f*** up cursers anytime soon? :p |
| 20:05.20 | Gigantic | eNTi: we can make a quick/easy test, logout, then mv ~/.kde4 ~/.kde4-old |
| 20:05.23 | Gigantic | then relog |
| 20:05.31 | eNTi | ok thx |
| 20:05.41 | Gigantic | see if keys work, then you can revert from the bacup folder |
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| 20:06.20 | Gigantic | and if nothing else work still, ask Jucato :P |
| 20:07.02 | Gigantic | nah... leave the guy have his lunch in peace... =) |
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| 20:11.00 | pinheirolap | compiling it is |
| 20:12.15 | kdepepo | junkDawgie, thanks :) |
| 20:12.21 | junkDawgie | :) |
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| 20:26.03 | ner0x | Are there any calendar apps for kde that I should be aware of before installing sunbird? |
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| 20:28.12 | sredna | ner0x: kontact/korganizer! |
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| 20:33.13 | supert0nes | does anyone use kmail with gmail? |
| 20:34.08 | ner0x | sredna: Just pulled that up, I'm impressed so far. |
| 20:34.16 | ner0x | How does one become a developer for kde? |
| 20:34.30 | supert0nes | ugh wrong question how do you sync what you do in kmail to what shows up on gmail...This sounds trivial but deletion in inbox does not delete from the gmail folders |
| 20:34.38 | sredna | loves kontact |
| 20:34.39 | SSJ_GZ | ner0x: Submit patches; get an SVN account :) |
| 20:34.49 | cb400f | ner0x: http://techbase.kde.org |
| 20:34.55 | ner0x | cb400f: Thanks. |
| 20:34.56 | sredna | i used korganizer since 2000 |
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| 20:35.27 | ner0x | SSJ_GZ: What's the main language, c++ & QT 4.X.X ? |
| 20:35.43 | SSJ_GZ | ner0x: Correct :) |
| 20:36.02 | ner0x | SSJ_GZ: It would take a while to learn how the code is made right? |
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| 20:36.08 | ner0x | Well, coding style, etc. |
| 20:36.19 | SSJ_GZ | ner0x: Depends - how good is your C++? |
| 20:36.46 | ner0x | SSJ_GZ: I'm currently writing an Image Album Prog with C++ and QT 4.X. |
| 20:37.07 | ner0x | So I'm familiar with OOP and signals/slots/etc. |
| 20:37.08 | SSJ_GZ | ner0x: You shouldn't have any real problems then, I don't think :) |
| 20:37.13 | sredna | it is not that hard :) |
| 20:37.33 | ner0x | I wish I could fix the keyboard shortcuts bug. Bleh. |
| 20:38.09 | sredna | ner0x: use api.kde.org to find the kde classes, and use them where available in place of others |
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| 20:42.06 | ner0x | I'll have to have a separate system to build on. |
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| 20:47.12 | Ace2016 | Anyone seen the pager resizing bug which occurs the first time kde is started? |
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| 21:07.41 | rniamo | is it possible to have a menu "extract here" under ddolphin ? |
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| 21:08.10 | supert0nes | rniamo: there are scripts to do that on kde-apps.org but that is a planned feature for 4.2 |
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| 21:08.39 | rniamo | i'm under kde 4.2 and it is still not present :( |
| 21:09.00 | rniamo | and i have another question : kdebluetooth4 download an jpg but i don't know where |
| 21:09.58 | Salze | I do have an "Extract archive here" in dolphin using kubuntu 8.10 with kde 4.2 beta 1. |
| 21:10.03 | thiago_home | rniamo: I have 4.2 and I have that |
| 21:10.15 | supert0nes | rniamo: try going to help about kde in dolphin |
| 21:10.29 | supert0nes | should say 4.1.85 |
| 21:10.35 | thiago_home | make sure you have ark installed |
| 21:10.36 | supert0nes | or 4.2 beta |
| 21:10.38 | supert0nes | or something like that |
| 21:10.54 | supert0nes | ya ark is a good starting point too |
| 21:10.57 | rniamo | ark is installed, i use it to unzip/unrar etc |
| 21:11.07 | Salze | It is 4.1.80 for me. |
| 21:11.27 | supert0nes | ya i should have said 4.1.80 |
| 21:11.35 | rniamo | 4.1.85 for me |
| 21:11.48 | supert0nes | thats interesting |
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| 21:12.21 | rniamo | but how adding extract here ... beacause F4 works but it is not really nice |
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| 21:12.58 | Salze | I don't know. It was just there on my system after updating. |
| 21:13.30 | Dumble | Hello world! |
| 21:13.31 | sredna | rniamo: create a servicemenu using cli tools, afaik that is not supported in ark currently |
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| 21:13.54 | rniamo | i'm new under KDE so i don't know where are service menu |
| 21:13.59 | nixternal | kdepepo: haven't asked anyone else to give it a try, but it happens constantly on my machine...I will have to troubleshoot later though |
| 21:14.28 | sredna | rniamo: google for servicemenu howto, there is one (at techbase probably) |
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| 21:14.44 | rniamo | ok thanks |
| 21:17.02 | kdepepo | nixternal, if possible, build with debug enabled |
| 21:17.51 | kdepepo | nixternal, what makes it crash? |
| 21:17.57 | nixternal | just starting it up |
| 21:18.03 | kdepepo | hm |
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| 21:20.12 | kdepepo | if it is just designer, it may be because of the kde widget plugins... maybe you could try running designer without kde plugin dir in .config/Trolltech.conf |
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| 21:25.51 | kdepepo | hah, crashes here too with kde widget plugins enabled |
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| 21:26.31 | kdepepo | have to see, thanks for the report |
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| 21:37.37 | ner0x | What has dcop been renamed to for kde4? |
| 21:37.55 | thiago_home | nothing |
| 21:37.55 | kdepepo | kde4 uses dbus |
| 21:37.56 | thiago_home | it was dropped |
| 21:37.57 | GNU\colossus | the functional equivalent is dbus now |
| 21:38.00 | thiago_home | KDE4 uses D-Bus |
| 21:38.09 | GNU\colossus | (not to be mixed up with jeebus!) |
| 21:38.11 | khunt | how do i install something without a gpg key? |
| 21:38.24 | thiago_home | khunt: your question doesn't make sense. |
| 21:38.33 | thiago_home | KDE doesn't install anything and doesn't require GPG keys for anything. |
| 21:38.45 | ner0x | thiago_home: Ah, alright. Google for the usual docs? |
| 21:38.58 | thiago_home | yes |
| 21:39.05 | ner0x | Works for me. Thanks. |
| 21:39.13 | khunt | i downloaded an rpm but it will not install it says the gpg key is not valid |
| 21:39.29 | Jucato | khunt: you'll have to ask your distro (or the provider of that rpm) about that |
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| 21:52.10 | rudolph | anyone here using kwave ??? |
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| 21:52.59 | rudolph | have some troubles enabling mp3 support |
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| 22:03.12 | jad4 | hmm is teh cashew gone by default in KDE 4.2? |
| 22:03.18 | jad4 | how do we add widgets then? |
| 22:03.22 | jad4 | right click shows nothing... |
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| 22:06.38 | supert0nes | cashew stays for 4.2 |
| 22:06.50 | supert0nes | unless a distro removes it |
| 22:06.57 | jad4 | hmm opensuse did :S |
| 22:07.06 | jad4 | furthermore rightclicking on desktop shows nothing |
| 22:07.31 | supert0nes | maybe your plasma config is messed up |
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| 22:18.57 | glen | from which tarball is the konqueror google dropdown for kde4.2? i.e that search box? |
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| 22:25.33 | animeloe | I did a recent svn compile and now it won't see any off the applications |
| 22:25.59 | animeloe | I compiled it on a quadcore but the target is an XP 1700+ |
| 22:26.17 | animeloe | does kde do any cpu specific optimizations that I should know about? |
| 22:26.25 | thiago_home | no |
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| 22:30.25 | kdepepo | nixternal, one crash fixed. I was fatally assuming that an object receives a QEvent::Destroy event when it is deleted. But it is probably the other way around, it gets deleted if it receives that event. But I found another crash that occurs in qcolor |
| 22:30.49 | nixternal | you think that might have been causing the crash with designer? |
| 22:31.18 | kdepepo | nixternal, gdb backtrace indicated this. |
| 22:31.19 | nixternal | do you have an svn^Wbzr^Wgit branch to check out fixes? |
| 22:31.54 | nixternal | I am waiting for a locksmith right now, so after that is finished I will be able to do some further testing for you |
| 22:32.35 | kdepepo | nixternal, I will prepare a 0.2.1 release soon. |
| 22:33.02 | nixternal | groovy, thanks! |
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| 22:49.24 | kdepepo | hm, that other crash also happens when skulpture isn't installed at all |
| 22:50.08 | katoda | hi, I've recently upgraded my KDE to KDE 4.2 beta and the colors of Kate code folding has changed. Does anybody know how to change them? I'm using KUbuntu 8.10 |
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| 22:53.32 | kdepepo | nixternal, http://skulpture.maxiom.de/releases/skulpture-0.2.0.4.tar.bz2 |
| 22:54.45 | drantin | ooh |
| 22:54.47 | drantin | new version |
| 22:55.25 | kdepepo | nope, a snapshot |
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| 23:02.39 | jad4 | have a prob |
| 23:02.52 | jad4 | world clock applet crashes plasma when I try to close it |
| 23:03.05 | jad4 | then plasma restarts with the applet running |
| 23:03.11 | jad4 | how do I get rid of it?? |
| 23:04.56 | animeloe | I can't see any of the applications I built in kde4 |
| 23:05.10 | animeloe | and opening folders won't do anything useful either |
| 23:05.15 | bram85 | jad4: i think the only way is to remove it from the plasma configuration manually |
| 23:05.27 | gothats | animeloe: what do you mean by 'see' |
| 23:05.32 | jad4 | ok |
| 23:05.35 | jad4 | bram85: ok |
| 23:05.42 | jad4 | I'll have to logout then |
| 23:05.51 | jad4 | because I can even quit plasma :P |
| 23:06.00 | animeloe | as in nothing's showing in Applications menu |
| 23:06.06 | gothats | ah |
| 23:06.10 | animeloe | it's like there's no apps |
| 23:06.11 | gothats | that I don't know about |
| 23:06.23 | animeloe | I'm wondering if I screwed something up when I compiled it |
| 23:07.10 | animeloe | also java is screwy |
| 23:07.19 | animeloe | looks like I'll just have to rebuild from scratch and see what happens |
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| 23:09.25 | jad4 | how do I add dolphin to the panel? |
| 23:09.35 | jad4 | and konsole? |
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| 23:10.18 | jad4 | nevermind, done |
| 23:10.40 | jad4 | I drag and dropped from the panel |
| 23:10.49 | jad4 | but shouldn't there be an add application option |
| 23:10.53 | jad4 | ? |
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| 23:13.47 | TobiaszCudnik | hi, is beta2 going to be released today (16) ? |
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| 23:15.27 | kdepepo | nixternal, locksmith? you lost your key? :) |
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| 23:18.32 | gothats | Tobiasz: Depends on your location. I'm in Los Angeles, and it's still 12/15 :-) |
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| 23:21.50 | harryo | can someone help me with a question about setting up dual head kde on Fedora 10? 2nd screen does not have panel, only background |
| 23:22.57 | TobiaszCudnik | gothats: thats why ive attached the date... |
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| 23:23.12 | xdan779 | harryo: you should just need to right click in the screen and select add panel |
| 23:23.13 | TobiaszCudnik | in another way: is beta2 going to be released as scheduled ? |
| 23:23.47 | harryo | xdan779: thx for response, but right click does nothing (no options). works on 1st screen |
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| 23:24.39 | harryo | xdan779: I can run apps on the 2nd screen using -display :0.1 (but focus is an issue, app never has focus) |
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| 23:25.21 | xdan779 | ahh harry: I am not sure that duel head is supported anymore in kde |
| 23:25.37 | xdan779 | you may have to revert back to 3.5 type release |
| 23:26.23 | orkiz2 | With beta1 (and with beta2), does Konqueror remember the part of the page you were viewing if you go back? |
| 23:26.42 | orkiz2 | it always goes to the beginning of the page for me |
| 23:26.44 | harryo | xdan779: ack! d'oh! (insert other cartoon exclamations here) |
| 23:26.53 | harryo | xdan779: thx anyway |
| 23:27.45 | neverendingo | harryo: did you try to click on the cashew on the right of the panel? |
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| 23:28.57 | xdan779 | harryo: xinemera/twinview works very well though |
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| 23:43.32 | Tetracomm | Hello. |
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| 23:44.01 | Tetracomm | I want to install the latest version of KDE, which package do I select? kde or kde-base? |
| 23:44.04 | Tetracomm | or kde-core? |
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| 23:45.11 | kdepepo | Tetracomm, depends on your distribution... you may need to install kde4-session |
| 23:45.48 | kdepepo | Ask in distribution channel if there is a meta package that installs a full KDE desktop |
| 23:45.51 | PhrkOnLsh | kde --> meta package containing ALL KDE apps (not recommended) |
| 23:45.54 | Tetracomm | Ubuntu 8.10 |
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| 23:46.01 | PhrkOnLsh | kde-base --> minimum apps needed to run KDE |
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| 23:46.17 | PhrkOnLsh | kde-core --> minimum anything needed to run KDE (pretty much just kdelibs iirc) |
| 23:46.47 | PhrkOnLsh | Tetracomm: ^^ |
| 23:46.52 | PhrkOnLsh | install kde-base and then any and all apps you want. |
| 23:46.58 | Tetracomm | Alright, thank you. |
| 23:47.14 | PhrkOnLsh | installing the `kde` package leads to ou being unable to uninstall any kde apps without taking the whole window manager out. |
| 23:47.21 | Tetracomm | E: Couldn't find package kde-base |
| 23:47.40 | pinotree | Tetracomm: you should ask in the channel of your distro |
| 23:48.18 | PhrkOnLsh | Tetracomm: if `kdebase` doesn't work go ask #ubuntu |
| 23:49.51 | Tetracomm | kdebase works |
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| 23:52.29 | PhrkOnLsh | gl |
| 23:53.13 | marcus__ | Hello everyone, I'm looking for some tips about bluetooth on KDE4.1. In KDE 3 I was used to using the OBEX stack to move files around, what is the equivalent in KDE4 and how do I access it? |
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