| 00:01.33 | blip99 | bughunter2: hmm I don't have an "Appearance and Themes".... only Appearance under Look and Feel.. but it doesn't have a launch feedback |
| 00:01.53 | bughunter2 | blip99: you said you have kde 3.5 so you DO have Appearance & Themes |
| 00:01.57 | bughunter2 | look in your Control Center |
| 00:02.25 | blip99 | hmm I wonder if Ubuntu have customized it. Kubuntu i mean |
| 00:02.34 | blip99 | may i ask what does the cion look like |
| 00:02.36 | blip99 | icon |
| 00:02.40 | blip99 | bughunter2: ^ |
| 00:02.56 | bughunter2 | blip99: are you 100% your'e using kde 3.5? |
| 00:03.07 | bughunter2 | blip99: go to #kubuntu btw, as it should be there |
| 00:03.09 | bughunter2 | so i can't help |
| 00:03.30 | reavertm | ah, kubuntu, did they port plasma to 3.5 as well? |
| 00:04.02 | freeedrich| | uuh? |
| 00:04.04 | blip99 | bughunter2: they're too dumb there in kubuntu room... no one knows anything |
| 00:04.05 | freeedrich| | unlikely.. |
| 00:04.09 | reavertm | ;) |
| 00:04.19 | freeedrich| | kubuntu fails sooo much :) |
| 00:04.27 | freeedrich| | no way they port anything from a to b :) |
| 00:04.45 | reavertm | I wouldn't be that ceertain... |
| 00:04.46 | blip99 | the people who know ubuntu best are non-ubuntu users.... :D |
| 00:04.52 | blip99 | seriously |
| 00:04.52 | Sput | they invented systemsettings |
| 00:04.59 | Sput | and they had it already in 3.5 |
| 00:05.08 | Sput | which means, no control center on kubuntu |
| 00:05.10 | Sput | afaic |
| 00:05.19 | reavertm | the problem is - they port to much :P |
| 00:05.29 | bughunter2 | instead why don't they help dev of KDE4 |
| 00:05.31 | bughunter2 | w-t-f |
| 00:05.32 | bughunter2 | morons |
| 00:05.48 | bughunter2 | they're too lazy, just safely hiding to port some small stuff instead of doing real work |
| 00:05.55 | reavertm | well, it's about nearly all want-to-be-cutting edge distros |
| 00:05.56 | bughunter2 | at least that's the impression it makes |
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| 00:08.15 | blip99 | Sput: yes I have system settings... is tha different from the Control Center that I should get with normal KDE3.5 ? |
| 00:08.30 | blip99 | i mean have they changed stuff around |
| 00:08.31 | cenuij | I wanted to look at kubuntu, but i didnt want to download and install 200Mb of patches before i could check the system in a vm |
| 00:08.41 | cenuij | I asked how to get round this in #kubuntu |
| 00:08.50 | cenuij | guess the answers? |
| 00:09.20 | freeedrich| | dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda? |
| 00:09.26 | terr_ | I'll ask this question in #kde but it might not be the correct forum. My kids are thinking of buying me a DVD/CD reader burner for Xmas. Thing is that I intend to do some travelling and region codes are going to be an issue. Can anyone advise how to avoid this bullsyte? Thanks |
| 00:09.30 | reavertm | that should help |
| 00:09.34 | cenuij | not as smart as that ;) |
| 00:09.49 | Sput | blip99: yes it's different, and you'd best get support for it in #kubuntu rather than in here, I guess |
| 00:10.14 | freeedrich| | terr_: umm, I strongly believe regional codes shouldn't apply to CD/DVD writers/readers of PCs.. |
| 00:10.17 | Sput | because most people in here can't know how that stuff looks on your distro |
| 00:10.32 | Sput | freeedrich|: unfortunately, they do |
| 00:10.38 | freeedrich| | Really? |
| 00:10.40 | freeedrich| | Umm. |
| 00:10.41 | Sput | yeah |
| 00:10.43 | cenuij | the best answer i got was "dont install it, if you have no idea where it's downloading patches from" which really was the only answer as there was no way to tell who or what or why my not even installed system was being patched |
| 00:10.44 | freeedrich| | That gets me stunned. |
| 00:10.54 | Sput | though for some reason, my DVD drive ignores it in most cases, but not for all |
| 00:10.55 | blip99 | hmm I see. ok i'll check with them again. thanks Sput |
| 00:11.01 | blip99 | thanks bughunter2 |
| 00:11.09 | bughunter2 | np :) |
| 00:11.13 | Sput | all my other DVD drives honored the regional code |
| 00:11.14 | cenuij | the worst answer was, "dummy this is not windows, just install the patches so you have a safe system" |
| 00:11.31 | Sput | so I guess my current one is broken in a good way :) |
| 00:11.55 | Sput | freeedrich|: you get firmware patches for many drives |
| 00:12.03 | freeedrich| | thinks of sending kunbuntu users to exherbo.org from now on.. :D |
| 00:12.16 | Sput | or you just get a second drive (those things cost like 10 bucks nowadays) and set it to the other code |
| 00:12.27 | Sput | dvd software on linux generally doesn't care of course |
| 00:13.31 | terr_ | freeedrich|: I'll also have to burn DVD's and CD's - I'm not sure if region codes apply - can you advise |
| 00:13.50 | freeedrich| | hmm. sucks if you get an expensive external drive.. :) |
| 00:14.15 | freeedrich| | terr_: well, Sput just proved me wrong. So you better don't seek any advice in the stuff I say :) |
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| 00:15.02 | Sput | terr_: burning is not an issue, but most drives will refuse to read from DVDs that are from another region... best to make sure to get a regionfree one (though those are rarely sold), or ask google for which ones you get firmware patches |
| 00:15.05 | blip99 | turns out it's a bug in noobuntu.... see http://talkback.zdnet.com/5208-12554-0.html?forumID=1&threadID=32924&messageID=611520&start=-9949 |
| 00:15.32 | blip99 | thankfully i was able to open kcontrol and change it... why on earth did they make System Settings tool for... the Control Center isn't easy enough ? a baboon can configure his system through it |
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| 00:18.18 | aoliveira | could any1 help me with a problem about device mapper on debian using lvm2? |
| 00:18.37 | Sput | aoliveira: #debian I'd say |
| 00:18.50 | aoliveira | hehe ty |
| 00:18.53 | Sput | wherever they have their support channel now... |
| 00:18.59 | Sput | I think it's not on freenode anymore |
| 00:19.01 | aoliveira | good |
| 00:19.08 | reavertm | it should be pretty out of the box anyway aoliveira |
| 00:19.31 | aoliveira | there are lot of people there to help me |
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| 00:33.25 | hallowname | hi, im trying to get the librebecca project published (maybe on kde-apps.org, or qt-apps.org), but i don't know of a good host for the 8-9mb tar.bz2 file... the github is here: github.com/hallowname |
| 00:34.00 | maazu | your pet project? |
| 00:34.22 | hallowname | maazu: no |
| 00:34.38 | hallowname | maazu: the author of it abandoned it, but I need it for my pet project |
| 00:34.50 | maazu | :| |
| 00:35.32 | hallowname | maazu: it didn't compile apropriately on modern linux, so i tweaked it, and made some linux adjustments, now i want to distribute it, but it's sourceforge page is already taken by the previous author |
| 00:35.44 | hallowname | maazu: i just need a host |
| 00:36.07 | maazu | well talk to the previous author |
| 00:36.31 | hallowname | maazu: i have... he doesn't care at all... won't publish, won't sf it... |
| 00:37.00 | maazu | but you said previous author have sf page |
| 00:37.08 | hallowname | maazu: it's a good project, but was written in visual studio, so it didn't get much linux love... it was all GPL compatible too, with qt integration even |
| 00:37.31 | hallowname | maazu: i kno, he won't let me take the sf, or let me post a binary release for linux |
| 00:37.50 | maazu | set up a sister page on sf |
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| 00:38.25 | hallowname | maazu: brilliant, but i'd rather not call it a fork because i can't maintain code like this... |
| 00:38.42 | hallowname | maazu: sf team would deny me, it not being a fork |
| 00:38.46 | DoubleD84 | is there good software for converting avi to dvd's? |
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| 00:38.54 | hallowname | DoubleD84: avidemux |
| 00:39.23 | DoubleD84 | thx hallowname, I've been looking on Kde-apps and anything I've found wasn't looking very promising. |
| 00:39.50 | maazu | why? they all stuck with kde3? |
| 00:40.46 | drantin | k9copy |
| 00:41.06 | drantin | wait... |
| 00:41.18 | drantin | k3b |
| 00:41.32 | hallowname | maazu: huh? i mean the sf team that reads over new applicants would deny me because it's the same librebecca just workign with linux now... |
| 00:41.43 | hallowname | drantin: nice |
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| 00:42.13 | maazu | hallowname: you said your project needs librebecca, not librebecca itself |
| 00:42.31 | maazu | hallowname: so setup your project only |
| 00:43.07 | hallowname | maazu: my project has a sf pagge.... oh! |
| 00:43.19 | maazu | congrats |
| 00:43.26 | hallowname | maazu: i realize iim ignorance, i will simply publish the binary on my projects site |
| 00:43.36 | hallowname | maazu: thx |
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| 00:44.05 | maazu | hallowname: your all right |
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| 00:55.29 | nov | Ðлло? |
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| 01:06.42 | shepherd | I've a problem, for some random reason, I try starting KDE, and I get an error that plasma has crashed and nothing else happens. |
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| 01:07.29 | stef_204 | guys, just installed openbox and want to use it inside of KDE...howver, KDM for some reason is not giving me the option to run openbox/kde (only openbox) |
| 01:07.51 | stef_204 | I am running Mandriva Free 2008.1 (x86_64) bt |
| 01:07.59 | stef_204 | *btw |
| 01:08.40 | stef_204 | How KDM's menu so as to add the openbox/kde option? |
| 01:13.34 | stef_204 | anyone on the KDM question above ^^ ? ;) |
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| 01:16.35 | krish | stef_204: you want openbox in Kmenu? |
| 01:16.53 | stef_204 | krish: yes |
| 01:17.05 | krish | krish: right click on your kmenu |
| 01:17.07 | krish | edit menu |
| 01:17.09 | stef_204 | krish: I have open box in the KDM menu |
| 01:17.22 | krish | ! |
| 01:17.23 | stef_204 | krish: but not "openbox/kde" |
| 01:17.29 | stef_204 | krish: different |
| 01:18.01 | krish | openbox/kde runs from terminal? |
| 01:18.03 | stef_204 | krish: and it is KDM not the regular kmenu |
| 01:18.04 | krish | did you check |
| 01:18.10 | stef_204 | yes |
| 01:18.21 | krish | 2008.1 has 3.5.9 KDE right? |
| 01:18.26 | stef_204 | it does if I drop to runlevel3 (kill X) and then type startx |
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| 01:19.18 | stef_204 | (as I have an .xinitrc file with the command openbox-kde-session inside the file) |
| 01:19.20 | erik-k_ | Hmm... I just tried to get to system settings > network settings in kde4 and it says "error parsing xml file" and shows no interfaces... |
| 01:19.29 | stef_204 | krish: u with me? |
| 01:19.44 | krish | I just woke up and sigh I am lazy to open my laptop (it has mandriva free 2008.1) |
| 01:19.59 | stef_204 | ah same distro |
| 01:20.03 | krish | shepherd: |
| 01:20.12 | stef_204 | krish: come one baby, u can do it.... ;) |
| 01:20.17 | stef_204 | *on |
| 01:20.44 | krish | that motivation was not enough |
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| 01:21.02 | krish | ok wait let me fetch my brush too |
| 01:21.13 | stef_204 | krish: come ON my man...! Help a fellw KDE user, Linux user, newbie, etc. :) !!!! |
| 01:21.15 | shepherd | krish: yea ? |
| 01:21.22 | stef_204 | *fellow |
| 01:21.50 | stef_204 | I need to learn how to type properly (apparently seeing the spelling ;) ) |
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| 01:22.32 | krish | shepherd: what happened after the crash? |
| 01:22.38 | krish | blank screen white screen? |
| 01:24.49 | krish | stef_204: ok I am in |
| 01:24.51 | krish | tell me |
| 01:25.03 | stef_204 | krish: u the man |
| 01:25.11 | krish | KDE control center? |
| 01:25.19 | stef_204 | krish: nope |
| 01:25.30 | stef_204 | KDM--ze graphical boot |
| 01:25.40 | stef_204 | gui |
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| 01:26.03 | krish | stef_204: navigate me from kmenu please |
| 01:26.23 | stef_204 | krish: it's BEFORE you log in to KDE |
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| 01:26.33 | stef_204 | krish: if you use KDM |
| 01:26.44 | stef_204 | as oyur boot or login GUI |
| 01:26.47 | krish | oh |
| 01:26.55 | stef_204 | so log out of sessoin |
| 01:26.58 | krish | you mean that options for DE |
| 01:27.06 | krish | KDE, GNOME, XFCE... |
| 01:27.10 | stef_204 | yep |
| 01:27.23 | krish | you want openbox to come up there? |
| 01:27.28 | shepherd | my plasma crashs, any ideas how I can fish it ? |
| 01:27.29 | shepherd | Fix * |
| 01:27.29 | stef_204 | when u install openbox, it should add the menu item openbox |
| 01:27.33 | stef_204 | and openbox/kde |
| 01:27.49 | stef_204 | krish: openbox/kde |
| 01:27.54 | krish | shepherd: [06:52] <krish> shepherd: what happened after the crash? |
| 01:27.54 | stef_204 | I already have openbox |
| 01:28.06 | shepherd | krish: Nothing. |
| 01:28.12 | shepherd | krish: kde stops loading. |
| 01:28.14 | stef_204 | krish: openbox/kdde means openbox runs inside of KDE |
| 01:28.39 | stef_204 | krish: how do I edit the KDM menu then.....? |
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| 01:37.47 | krish | shepherd: are you able to login to command line? |
| 01:37.56 | krish | virtual console that is |
| 01:39.09 | shepherd | I am in LXDE |
| 01:39.14 | shepherd | at the moment |
| 01:39.16 | shepherd | so yes. |
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| 01:44.26 | krish | shepherd: open your virtual console and rename /etc/kde4/share/config/plasmarc to something else |
| 01:44.35 | krish | like plasmarc.old |
| 01:45.00 | shepherd | That file does not exist |
| 01:45.07 | krish | stef_204: where is the xinitrc, not finding it |
| 01:45.35 | stef_204 | krish: you may not have one. I had to create it in ~/ |
| 01:46.29 | rdieter | krish: we (shephard and I) already tried nuking ~/.kde/share/config/plasmarc |
| 01:46.44 | shepherd | Oh that's why it didn't exist |
| 01:46.56 | shepherd | I renamed it already.. haha |
| 01:46.57 | krish | rdieter: oh |
| 01:47.00 | shepherd | I'm a little tired. |
| 01:47.35 | krish | create a new one then |
| 01:48.14 | krish | shepherd: or do this |
| 01:48.19 | krish | in your virtual console |
| 01:48.22 | krish | type |
| 01:48.35 | krish | export DISPLAY=:1 |
| 01:48.39 | krish | startkde |
| 01:48.56 | krish | wait this is after you create a new plasmarc |
| 01:49.03 | shepherd | k, one moment |
| 01:49.40 | krish | here's my plasmarc http://pastebin.com/d261eada9 |
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| 01:49.58 | krish | now to get back to stef_204 |
| 01:50.10 | stef_204 | yo |
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| 01:54.43 | stef_204 | krish: you understand what I was talking about then? |
| 01:56.13 | krish | stef_204: I am searchin it |
| 01:56.26 | krish | its long time Ive done such thing |
| 01:56.35 | krish | where is the list of all desktops grr |
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| 01:56.47 | stef_204 | krish: ok np. I'm googling but not much luck |
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| 02:05.40 | krish[0] | sorry got disconnected |
| 02:06.03 | krish | stef_204: whats in your /usr/X11R6 |
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| 02:07.11 | stef_204 | % ls |
| 02:07.11 | stef_204 | bin/ lib/ man/ |
| 02:08.46 | stef_204 | krish: ^^ |
| 02:08.49 | krish | ok whats in bin |
| 02:09.04 | krish | ? |
| 02:09.19 | krish | in /usr/X11R6/bin |
| 02:09.39 | stef_204 | looooooooots of stuff |
| 02:09.50 | stef_204 | pastebin? |
| 02:09.53 | m-c | noticed in opensuse 11.1 that the default ogg theora file extension .OGV shows up in Konqueror and Dolphin with a " ? " icon |
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| 02:10.15 | m-c | is this a problem just with opensuse - or does kde not handle ogg theora files correctly? |
| 02:10.30 | krish | stef_204: yes please |
| 02:10.35 | m-c | was wondering if someone could try it on their desktops |
| 02:10.49 | krish | m-c: share the file |
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| 02:12.02 | m-c | krish: sorry - what do you mean share the file? :) |
| 02:12.18 | krish | m-c: I dont have ogv file |
| 02:12.23 | stef_204 | krish: http://pastebin.ca/1289958 |
| 02:12.25 | krish | gimme a link or something where I can download one |
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| 02:12.57 | m-c | http://nofatclips.com/02008/12/18/comedown/Bring%20Me%20The%20Horizon%20-%20The%20Comedown.ogv |
| 02:13.29 | m-c | well - that is 93 MB but worth the download -- let me find a smaller one |
| 02:13.33 | krish | stef_204: what? |
| 02:13.43 | krish | that looks like /bin |
| 02:13.56 | stef_204 | krish: u asked for that |
| 02:13.58 | krish | [07:39] <krish> in /usr/X11R6/bin |
| 02:14.29 | stef_204 | krish: u want what? u said the content of ^^ |
| 02:16.05 | m-c | http://nofatclips.com/02008/12/07/bag/Sony%20-%20Magic%20Bag.ogv |
| 02:16.10 | m-c | 10 MB download |
| 02:16.40 | krish | oh no |
| 02:16.52 | krish | i have torrent running already |
| 02:17.56 | stef_204 | krish: sorry.......I'm tired |
| 02:18.03 | stef_204 | krish: I get it |
| 02:18.52 | krish | stef_204: ok at your own ease read this sometime http://netlab.cse.yzu.edu.tw/~statue/freebsd/handbook/x11-wm.html |
| 02:19.02 | stef_204 | /usr/X11R6/bin |
| 02:19.03 | stef_204 | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:19.03 | stef_204 | emx* sunclock* |
| 02:19.20 | krish | stef_204: If I can figure out how to do it I will tell you |
| 02:19.32 | stef_204 | I had 2 terminals opened and inadvertently type into the wrong one |
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| 02:19.33 | krish | or just ask when geeks are here |
| 02:19.44 | stef_204 | krish: ok |
| 02:19.52 | stef_204 | krish: tx anyways |
| 02:19.59 | krish | np |
| 02:20.05 | stef_204 | krish: when are geeks here, btw? :) |
| 02:20.39 | krish | stef_204: 8 hours ago probably |
| 02:21.02 | krish | so may be after another 16 hours |
| 02:21.07 | krish | who knows |
| 02:21.19 | krish | stef_204: you could meanwhile try in #mandriva |
| 02:21.23 | stef_204 | yeah really ...those geeks.... |
| 02:21.37 | stef_204 | krish: I did and they're sleeping |
| 02:21.45 | krish | could be |
| 02:21.46 | stef_204 | in the mandriva fr |
| 02:21.52 | krish | different TZ you see |
| 02:21.57 | stef_204 | i'll try again tom |
| 02:22.04 | krish | try just #mandriva |
| 02:22.24 | stef_204 | wil do tom |
| 02:22.34 | krish | I better finish brushin before my gf wakes up |
| 02:22.37 | krish | ciao |
| 02:22.39 | m-c | I use Ogg Theora quite a lot and having all the file icons appear as big question marks is disheartening. |
| 02:22.44 | stef_204 | bye |
| 02:22.50 | krish | m-c: I am downloading |
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| 02:23.11 | m-c | krish: okay, thanks for looking into it. |
| 02:24.54 | krish | what! 40 minutes to download |
| 02:24.55 | GerbilSoft | Hi, I'm encountering a weird bug in KMail. |
| 02:25.01 | m-c | Cannot understand why Ogg files play second fiddle in linux desktops. Seems to be that way in gnome, too. |
| 02:25.05 | krish | did they zap my internet or what |
| 02:25.09 | GerbilSoft | I'm attempting to receive mail from my Verizon email account, and it says that the username and password wasn't accepted |
| 02:25.19 | GerbilSoft | but i checked the network log and the password *was* accepted |
| 02:25.35 | GerbilSoft | er never mind, the password error was on a different account. |
| 02:25.41 | GerbilSoft | i should read these things first <_< |
| 02:25.41 | krish | m-c: I remember ogg playing very smooth on kaffeine (mandriva) and on totem in gnome (ubuntu) |
| 02:26.00 | m-c | oh, it plays great in kaffeine |
| 02:26.01 | GerbilSoft | er wait, now it showed up |
| 02:26.14 | GerbilSoft | i think it's just a server error, so i'll wait to see if it gets fixed |
| 02:26.37 | m-c | but gnome also does not identify OGV files in their MIME support and does not play a sample like they do for mpeg and quicktime videos |
| 02:28.02 | krish | m-c: is it really gnome or the distro |
| 02:28.25 | m-c | no it was gnome - I have a bug open with them and all |
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| 02:28.40 | krish | m-c: somethings wrong with my internet 3KB/sec download right now |
| 02:28.51 | krish | that file will take time |
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| 02:33.06 | stef_204 | krish: http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2004/08/msg00384.html |
| 02:33.10 | stef_204 | krish: 'tis the asnwer |
| 02:33.16 | stef_204 | krish: I dt get why the files I have in there start with numbers like 01KDE.desktop, etc... |
| 02:33.20 | stef_204 | krish: if I add the proper openbox/kde.desktop file in there, KDM will see it |
| 02:33.38 | stef_204 | krish: but I just dt dig the numbers in front of the other files |
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| 02:33.56 | stef_204 | krish: anyway, it'll have to wait til tom |
| 02:34.25 | krish | thats cool he found his answer :) |
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| 02:38.14 | raikazejin | so is there anyway to get the gtk-qt-engine to work without running a full session of KDE? |
| 02:39.43 | Deuliops | raik, I believe as long as you have all qt libraries, it should go fine. I've run KDE apps in minimal XWindowed shells. |
| 02:40.17 | raikazejin | Deuliops, did you me mean and tab complete gotcha? |
| 02:45.42 | krish | bgmiki: ] |
| 02:46.06 | bgmiki | sry bug with kvirc4 |
| 02:47.12 | raikazejin | mean me* |
| 02:48.19 | m-c | is anyone else able to download those movie files, with the links I provided? |
| 02:48.24 | m-c | someone who is not running suse |
| 02:48.34 | m-c | it will just take a second |
| 02:48.49 | krish | grr dolphins terminal isnt remembering its theme |
| 02:49.21 | m-c | there is several hundred lurkers in the channel |
| 02:50.26 | m-c | okay -- I will file a bug report and let it sort out there -- thanks for trying krish |
| 02:52.14 | bgmiki | http://imagebin.ca/view/Rtb1uls.html |
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| 03:18.50 | ethana2 | so I'm on Kubuntu Jaunty alpha2 with KDE4.2 beta2 |
| 03:19.05 | ethana2 | Kubuntu ships OpenOffice on the CD... |
| 03:19.08 | ethana2 | and not Amarok |
| 03:19.15 | ethana2 | yet, anyways, perhaps it will |
| 03:19.26 | ethana2 | what distro ships KOffice 2 with KDE4? |
| 03:19.32 | ethana2 | suse or fedora? |
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| 03:31.22 | nashk | Hi |
| 03:31.41 | nashk | I plug my ipod into and nothing is happening at all. I'm using kubuntu 8.10, any ideas? |
| 03:32.27 | thrice` | ethana2: I don't think many (if any), as it's not done yet |
| 03:32.42 | ethana2 | I see |
| 03:34.08 | thrice` | nashk: which ipod ? |
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| 03:34.44 | nashk | thrice`: Nano. 4gb |
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| 03:35.51 | nashk | it worked fine with fiesty |
| 03:36.03 | nashk | could it be because I'm no 64bit? |
| 03:36.37 | nashk | looks like this: http://gadgetmaniac.mail2web.com/uploads/2308/18565.jpg Not sure which generation. |
| 03:37.09 | yzhou | hi everybody :) |
| 03:37.36 | shizlap | anyone found a workaround for konqueror displaying dialog boxes with the font + background the same color ? |
| 03:37.40 | thrice` | no, not because you're on 64-bit |
| 03:37.48 | shizlap | always had this in KDE4 using default settings |
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| 03:41.43 | asdfasdfasdf | how to bind the Windows key in my keyboard to launch the menu. i cant do it it seems like requires that key plus any other. is this possible to do? |
| 03:42.44 | shizlap | asdfasdfasdf: no, it requires that key plus any other in KDE4 |
| 03:42.56 | asdfasdfasdf | shizlap, why? |
| 03:43.07 | asdfasdfasdf | i want only that key to launch the menu |
| 03:43.09 | shizlap | because they purposely made it that way |
| 03:43.28 | asdfasdfasdf | no way to change this? |
| 03:43.38 | asdfasdfasdf | why would anyone do such and horrifying thing.. |
| 03:43.42 | shizlap | short of changing the source, not really |
| 03:44.07 | asdfasdfasdf | is this related to st00pid patents? |
| 03:44.16 | shizlap | i'm sure they had good reason, maybe the single key interfered with other programs using it as a Meta key ? |
| 03:44.19 | shizlap | *shrugs* |
| 03:44.47 | asdfasdfasdf | oh no , i dont see why i must use my 2 hands to launch the menu alt+ f1 and not only one finger -.- |
| 03:44.55 | asdfasdfasdf | its pointless |
| 03:45.41 | asdfasdfasdf | shizlap, as far as i lived *no software have ever asked me for that key* |
| 03:46.04 | shizlap | at any rate, it was broken for me last time i checked, switching to the classic Kmenu layout + back again broke the use of Alt+F1 |
| 03:46.17 | asdfasdfasdf | ohhh |
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| 03:46.48 | shizlap | aah yes, just tried it, it's still broken in KDE 4.2 beta2 |
| 03:47.03 | asdfasdfasdf | but alt+f1 uses both your hands, and the other way to lauch the menu its actually aiming and chasing it with the mouse.. |
| 03:47.07 | asdfasdfasdf | its annoying. |
| 03:47.24 | asdfasdfasdf | shizlap, ahh you should report it as bug |
| 03:47.36 | shizlap | but can be fixed, by doing 'rm -rf ~/.kde' :( |
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| 03:51.15 | shizlap | yes i should - but am working a different bug atm |
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| 03:53.58 | asdfasdfasdf | ^^ |
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| 03:54.38 | Conflict_80 | anyone gimme a place to start looking for trouble, my sound just stopped working, kmixer has a red X on tray icon says mixer cannot be found |
| 03:55.08 | BP{k} | well you could start of with insulting some US Navy Seals or so ;) |
| 03:55.30 | Conflict_80 | lol that should take care of it eh |
| 03:55.45 | BP{k} | well it should keep you 'entertained' for a while. |
| 03:56.03 | Conflict_80 | entertained, yet, still in silence ;) |
| 03:57.00 | BP{k} | hmm you might want to check if your soundcard requires any modules, run perhals alsaconf etc. possible that somethinh crashed and took your sound system with it? |
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| 03:57.51 | Conflict_80 | Don't know, went out yesterday, works in XP, not hardware, but i will try alsaconf for the heck of it |
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| 04:00.10 | Conflict_80 | alsaconf sems to be happy, if i go to the sound system in the kde control center, it says something about error loading the driver will continue using null blahblah, when i change from and back to alsa and apply |
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| 05:09.42 | njdube | The kdebluetooth4 icon isn't showing up in the system tray after going from openSUSE 11.0 to 11.1. Any ideas? |
| 05:09.50 | njdube | I can see kbluetooth4 running in "System Activity" just no icon. |
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| 05:17.50 | nashk | is there some software that can record my activity? Like a jpeg of what's going on on the desktop? |
| 05:17.58 | nashk | Something like camtasia studio. |
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| 05:20.23 | drantin | nashk: look up screencasting |
| 05:20.35 | drantin | kdenlive can do it with recordmydesktop |
| 05:20.39 | drantin | or something like that |
| 05:20.49 | nashk | drandtin: OK, thanks. |
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| 05:45.20 | luke-jr | Is it possible to require an extra password for a virtual desktop? |
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| 06:08.26 | DCapture | hey guys i need help |
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| 06:11.17 | Capture | sorry, i was disconnected from my wifi |
| 06:11.21 | Capture | try again if there was anything? |
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| 06:15.08 | Capture | no one? |
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| 06:15.40 | kakalto | Capture: what are you talking about? |
| 06:15.54 | Capture | http://supremeoverlord.trideltatech.net/pub/problem.png |
| 06:16.00 | Capture | my desktop layer is offset |
| 06:16.03 | Capture | windows, panels are fine |
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| 06:16.06 | Capture | just desktop |
| 06:16.09 | Capture | kde 3.5.9 |
| 06:16.17 | Capture | wasn't a problem 20 mins ago when system went down |
| 06:16.17 | sigma1234 | anyone running kde4 here? |
| 06:16.22 | sigma1234 | kde4.2 i mean |
| 06:16.59 | Capture | how do i fix |
| 06:17.22 | Capture | so instead of having 0x0 of the desktop be at 300x500 |
| 06:17.30 | Capture | have it at 0x0 of the screen |
| 06:18.25 | AliTarihi | I'm compiling a program gives me error about Solid:Contrl not declared. I guess I need a library installed, but I dunno which one. |
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| 06:40.38 | DCapture | resolved my issue |
| 06:40.41 | DCapture | i browsed around for a bit, pressed alt+f2 for the run box, and it shows up squarely aligned with the offset desktop, this makes me think "hmmm, my attempt at making a permanent place for the run dialog is probably interfering", so I opened kcontrol and deleted the settings for kdesktop |
| 06:40.47 | DCapture | so if you ever see anyone with that issue, tell him to delete his special window settings for kdesktop |
| 06:40.50 | DCapture | in kcontrol |
| 06:41.08 | DCapture | (http://supremeoverlord.trideltatech.net/pub/problem.png <== for reference) |
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| 06:46.21 | [M]atias | bye all / aios a todos... |
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| 06:59.03 | stoned | hello world |
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| 07:12.44 | pulaski | hello, I'm not sure its ok to ask this silly question but how do I create a shortcut to ~/ on my desktop? |
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| 07:15.06 | PhrkOnLsh | pulaski: Either use the folder view plasma widget or right click -> add new widget -> icon -> mae it point to ~ |
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| 07:15.45 | pulaski | PhrkOnLsh: thanks |
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| 07:42.12 | iframe | using fedora 10, how can y rearrange the widgets in the panel, i have: *pager* *app launcher* and new device* byt want to have *app launcher* *pager* ...etc., any help?... |
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| 07:57.20 | terr | Sput I was on the phone and I have to run over and pick up my daughter. I'll have to re-read and probably ask again. Sorry - I know you were trying to help and I did read what you wrote but with only 1/2 a brain there are some issues I glossed opver |
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| 07:57.43 | terr | Sput jsut back... We can go into this another time if you are doing other things. |
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| 08:01.09 | terr_ | Sput jsut back... We can go into this another time if you are doing other things. |
| 08:01.22 | terr_ | I think I was logged out and this client seems to run in 1/2 duplex |
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| 08:32.38 | erik-k | Okay, uh, having some problems... anyone care to guess why my keyboard seems to randomly decide to not take input anymore? |
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| 08:37.01 | trumee | 2 |
| 08:42.10 | terr_ | erik-k: I had this problem with my IBM PC 101 KB. Took it out and plugged in my old Nec POS which I spent more than $150 bux on when gas was $0.50 per gallon and it works. We've had someone improve something IMHO |
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| 08:48.18 | erik-k | o_O keyboard's securely plugged in |
| 08:49.00 | erik-k | only happens in KDE4, typically after some hours of use. shut down back to terminal, keyboard works. |
| 08:50.05 | erik-k | Also, is there some way to force the taskbar to always be on top? |
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| 09:31.29 | stoned | hey I wish to try out kde 4 on debian which one should I try |
| 09:31.36 | stoned | kde4.2 or 4.1.3? |
| 09:32.21 | reves | go stable. go with 4.1.3 |
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| 09:32.53 | sidh | hello everybody |
| 09:33.27 | sidh | i'm running kde3.5 and would need to know if : |
| 09:33.34 | stoned | is there quanta in kde4? |
| 09:33.55 | sidh | 1/it is possible to make windows not cross over each other |
| 09:34.39 | sidh | 2/dedicated a desktop to a a screen and other desktop to another screen |
| 09:34.55 | stoned | I have kde 3.5.9 right now do I need to backup anything for kde4? |
| 09:35.07 | sidh | for having mail for example in one dedicated desktop |
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| 09:42.06 | kakalto | sidh: not exactly sure if this helps for 1/, but I configure specific paramaters so webpage takes 2/3s of screen and chat takes other third and such, settings which remember each time I open the program. Exactly what you said, I'm not sure exactly |
| 09:42.19 | kakalto | sidh: 2/ virtual desktop or physical screen? |
| 09:42.30 | pgega | is there any native cd burner in kde 4 ? |
| 09:43.56 | kakalto | stoned: I would suggest making a backup of your settings, yes. I don't know a comprehensive list of places settings are stored in kde3/4, but certainly .kde is a good start |
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| 09:46.28 | sidh | kakalto: for the moment laptop screen and external screen |
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| 09:46.39 | rindolf | Hi all! |
| 09:46.48 | rindolf | KDE 3 won't emit any sounds on Mandriva Linux Cooker. |
| 09:46.49 | kakalto | sidh: sure, it supports xinerama and things like that |
| 09:46.52 | rindolf | What can I do about it? |
| 09:46.57 | sidh | in few months , 2 19" external screens |
| 09:47.38 | sidh | kakalto: well but xinerama it is for 2 screen that can handle the same resolution ? isn't it ? |
| 09:48.42 | sidh | for the moment my laptop run 1280x800 and the external screen 1280x1024 |
| 09:49.24 | tosmo | it seems that okular renders fonts with hinting which once was for non anti-aliased rendering. most of the time evince will produce nicer rendering just because of the fonts. is there some config file or suchlike to change the rendering behaviour? |
| 09:49.24 | sidh | what i would like is to have a kde desktop a 1280x800 on my laptop |
| 09:49.31 | sidh | and others desktop |
| 09:49.46 | sidh | at 1280x1024 |
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| 09:50.14 | kakalto | sidh: I've run two different resolution monitors before, no problems |
| 09:50.53 | kakalto | rindolf: might want to ask in Mandriva's help channel, could be the way that ALSA is (or is not) set up |
| 09:50.56 | kakalto | alsa/ |
| 09:50.57 | tosmo | sidh: i think you should xrandr now. but xinerama also supports different resolution monitors |
| 09:50.58 | kakalto | not also |
| 09:51.00 | kakalto | argh |
| 09:51.04 | kakalto | ARTS ***** |
| 09:51.23 | rindolf | kakalto: OK. |
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| 09:52.02 | kakalto | rindolf: catch that? ask about ARTS, not alsa, sorry =] |
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| 09:52.05 | sidh | tosmo: great |
| 09:52.12 | rindolf | kakalto: OK. |
| 09:52.47 | sky_ | hi ;] |
| 09:53.25 | sidh | kakalto: tosmo thank you very much |
| 09:53.51 | sidh | kakalto: but for 1/ there is no option in kde ? |
| 09:54.29 | sidh | because i hate crossed over windows |
| 09:56.13 | kakalto | sidh: I'm not exactly sure. I usually have everything specified to open to specific sizes and placements, then everything hides to task tray upon click |
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| 09:56.50 | sidh | ok |
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| 10:31.23 | cenuij | looking for an Amarok2 -> Twitter script |
| 10:31.56 | cenuij | so I can pester the hell out of my friends with my superior taste in music ;) |
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| 10:43.50 | BtbN | I'm locking my KDE-Session using "qdbus org.kde.screensaver /ScreenSaver org.freedesktop.ScreenSaver.Lock", is there something like .Unlock? |
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| 10:50.44 | kriko | ok |
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| 10:53.59 | Nikty | пÑивеÑ! |
| 10:54.03 | Nikty | hi! |
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| 10:54.38 | Nikty | koffice can't understand non-unicode cyrillyc |
| 10:54.40 | Nikty | why? |
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| 11:17.13 | Krooks | is quanta+ dead ? There seem to be no kde4 port planned . |
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| 11:28.58 | silv3r_m001 | hi there |
| 11:29.06 | silv3r_m001 | i downloaded a theme from kde-looks |
| 11:29.09 | silv3r_m001 | it is a tar.bz2 file |
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| 11:29.13 | silv3r_m001 | how do i install it |
| 11:29.14 | silv3r_m001 | ? |
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| 11:34.51 | silv3r_m001 | anybody there |
| 11:34.55 | silv3r_m001 | tell please |
| 11:35.51 | BtbN | yes, there are 340 people here, silv3r_m001 |
| 11:36.02 | BtbN | 339 |
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| 11:36.35 | silv3r_m001 | BtbN: then tell :> |
| 11:36.45 | BtbN | what? |
| 11:36.52 | Jucato | silv3r_m001: it depends on what kind of a theme it is |
| 11:37.03 | Jucato | (and what KDE version you are using) |
| 11:37.18 | silv3r_m001 | Jucato: i using kde 3.5 |
| 11:37.24 | silv3r_m001 | and its a kde 3.2+ theme |
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| 11:37.28 | silv3r_m001 | and its a tar.bz2 file |
| 11:37.35 | silv3r_m001 | and has some make configure files in that zip |
| 11:37.39 | Jucato | most likely you will have to compile it |
| 11:37.53 | Jucato | it's a widget style/engine |
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| 11:39.14 | silv3r_m001 | where can i find themes which can be installed in the configuration by seleting files and without the compilation things |
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| 11:42.59 | pinotree | window decorations and widget styles are plugins that must be compiled |
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| 11:43.30 | Jucato | http://jucato.org/kde/kdethemes.html |
| 11:43.42 | Jucato | instructions ^^ |
| 11:43.44 | BtbN | Is there a way to unlock a locked session using dbus? |
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| 11:45.41 | rniamo | hi, i can't install kdebase-workspace-dev in kde 4.1, is it possible ? |
| 11:46.37 | pinotree | ask in the channel of your distro |
| 11:46.51 | rniamo | ok |
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| 11:51.35 | Nikty | why KSpread show cyrillic as crap? |
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| 11:58.01 | kakalto | Nikty: have you got koffice-i18n packages? |
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| 11:58.59 | Nikty | kakalto: no. but i got you) |
| 11:59.05 | cenuij | hehe |
| 11:59.08 | kakalto | ;D |
| 11:59.22 | cenuij | is there ical support in kontact? |
| 12:00.03 | cenuij | I would bust a nut to have my google calendars in kontact right now :< |
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| 12:02.52 | Krooks | cyrillic is the script for which language ? |
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| 12:05.53 | kakalto | Krooks: eastern europe, caucasus, siberia |
| 12:06.00 | kakalto | Krooks: primarily russian and similar |
| 12:06.22 | Krooks | russian use cyrillic script ? |
| 12:06.39 | Krooks | siberia has a language ? |
| 12:06.57 | Krooks | wow, I didn't know all this. I thought siberia speaks russian |
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| 12:07.43 | kakalto | Krooks: rather, those were locations, not languages |
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| 12:07.51 | Jucato | rawr! |
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| 12:08.05 | pinotree | gives Jucato a cookie jar |
| 12:08.15 | Jucato | munches happily in a corner of the room |
| 12:08.16 | kakalto | Krooks: siberia is russian, afaik |
| 12:08.30 | kakalto | in language |
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| 12:09.14 | kakalto | Krooks: there's also belarusian, bulgarian, macedonian, serbian, ukrainian and a few languages from ex-soviet states + mongolia |
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| 12:11.52 | Krooks | mongolia |
| 12:12.09 | Krooks | never seen a mongolian script |
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| 12:12.59 | silv3r_m001 | hi there |
| 12:13.16 | silv3r_m001 | i tried isntalling a kde font by following the build instructions |
| 12:13.17 | silv3r_m001 | it says |
| 12:13.33 | silv3r_m001 | *** YOU'RE USING autoconf (GNU Autoconf) 2.61. |
| 12:13.34 | silv3r_m001 | *** KDE requires autoconf 2.52, 2.53 or 2.54 |
| 12:13.41 | silv3r_m001 | what to do now ? |
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| 12:21.38 | Mirrakor | Is dolphin in kde4 already using nepomuk? (When I can rate it and add comments and tags to it?) |
| 12:22.54 | Jucato | in the information panel |
| 12:23.00 | Jucato | View -> Panels |
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| 12:27.15 | Mirrakor | Jucato: is it fully implemented yet or can we expect additional features to be added? |
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| 12:27.45 | Jucato | that I don't know |
| 12:28.00 | Prabz | Hi, Iwhy doesn't gajim start automatically |
| 12:28.10 | Prabz | sorry... |
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| 12:29.52 | Prabz | Hi , I 'm using Ubuntu 8.10 and KDE 4.1.3 . I find that after logging in again, Gajim doesn't start automatically whereas all other applications that were running before logout start automatically. |
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| 12:30.51 | silv3r_m001 | hi there |
| 12:31.01 | silv3r_m001 | how can i change the color of fonts on desktop icons ? |
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| 12:37.31 | bentob0x | how do you fully clean up your konqueror profiles? |
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| 12:39.51 | Prabz | Hi, I'm using KDE4.1.3 , it automatically saves the previous session.. But apparently it doesn't do the same with Gajim. why so? |
| 12:40.12 | kriko | I have a bug in file selector dialog. Which component should I choose? |
| 12:40.15 | Jucato | bentob0x: user-created profiles are stored in `kde4-config --localprefix`/share/apps/konqueror/profiles while system ones are in `kde4-config --prefix`/share/apps/konqueror/profiles |
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| 12:40.36 | Jucato | kriko: see if there's a kfiledialog component. if not, kio |
| 12:40.45 | kriko | ok |
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| 12:42.29 | bentob0x | Jucato: is it safe for me to just copy over the system's filemanagement profile onto mine to reset it? |
| 12:43.13 | Jucato | bentob0x: if you want to use the default/system profile, just delete the one in your $KDEHOME profile directory |
| 12:43.25 | Jucato | so that it will read the system one instead |
| 12:43.27 | bentob0x | it'll recreate one automatically? |
| 12:43.36 | Jucato | it won't need to |
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| 12:43.56 | bentob0x | ok thx Jucato |
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| 12:44.35 | kriko | Jucato: are you sure this is kio? I mean this: http://www.shrani.si/f/3V/mK/4p5k5y6p/borked.png |
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| 12:45.35 | Jucato | kriko: how is it borked? |
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| 12:46.03 | Jucato | kriko: the alignment of the icons? |
| 12:46.07 | kriko | yes |
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| 12:46.23 | Jucato | it might be the dolphinpart then.. |
| 12:46.33 | Jucato | (as for kfiledialog itself, yes it is a part of kio) |
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| 12:46.41 | kriko | will assign to dolphin |
| 12:47.35 | kriko | or kfiledialog sounds better.... |
| 12:48.04 | Jucato | kriko: like I said "<Jucato> kriko: see if there's a kfiledialog component. if not, kio" :) |
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| 12:48.33 | kriko | Jucato: have you seen the description of kfiledialog? everything but the dialog :) |
| 12:48.41 | kriko | confusing |
| 12:48.57 | Jucato | kriko: which description? |
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| 12:50.04 | kriko | look at kfile component description in bug reporting wizard |
| 12:50.25 | Jucato | I'm looking at this description: http://api.kde.org/4.x-api/kdelibs-apidocs/kio/html/classKFileDialog.html#_details |
| 12:50.53 | Jucato | kfile is not kfiledialog though |
| 12:51.06 | kriko | ok, kio then |
| 12:51.24 | Jucato | or dolphin (which handles the dolphinpart used in kfiledialog) |
| 12:52.16 | kriko | kio it is already choosen |
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| 12:52.28 | Jucato | ok |
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| 12:58.33 | kriko | Jucato: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=178273 is it ok? |
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| 12:59.29 | kriko | brb |
| 12:59.40 | Jucato | kriko: please attach the screenshot you showed me |
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| 13:00.21 | boloco | hi, all |
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| 13:05.09 | kriko | Jucato: oh, yes, forgot that |
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| 15:01.52 | BurkeOne | hey... is this the right channel to make a suggestion for the K-Menu? |
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| 15:02.02 | pinotree | yes |
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| 15:04.19 | BurkeOne | We have three different menus at this time in KDE, Kickoff,classic and L. Why not just have one Menu-button in the "Add Widgets"-dialogue plus the possibility to switch to classic and Lancelot? You dont have to merge all three monus but just have the config option which starts the chosen menu |
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| 15:05.13 | BurkeOne | What do you think? |
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| 15:07.11 | reavertm | I like the idea but I'm not a kde dev (and someone would need to implement this) |
| 15:08.30 | BurkeOne | Maybe it makes sense to suggest it in #plasma, because menus are plasma stuff IMO |
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| 15:09.01 | arussel | I am using kde4, in FF, the size of some widget makes them impossible to use. As an example, contact list in gmail, it is impossible to read the name of the contact. Is it a kde, qt or FF issue ? |
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| 15:09.49 | g-hennux | hi! |
| 15:09.59 | g-hennux | i'm currently trying kde 4.2 beta and have problems using akonadi |
| 15:10.00 | Jucato | arussel: neitehr Qt nor KDE doesn't affect the widgets in Firefox |
| 15:10.21 | g-hennux | is it possible to have the contacts lying on an imap server, like with kde <4.2? |
| 15:10.30 | arussel | Jucato: I'll go crying in #firefox then, thanks |
| 15:11.06 | aoliveira | lol |
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| 15:19.28 | g_ | Hey guys I found a bug I was just going to run it by you, when i lock the screen and go to log in again, when i enter the password it keeps saying its incorrect and wont let me log in again |
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| 15:20.46 | g_ | Im using kde 4.2 beta 2 |
| 15:21.23 | allquixotic | Any ideas for using Adobe's native 64-bit flash player in Konqueror? I got it to detect the right file, and it starts to load, but I just get a white square instead of the video. I can even bring up the context menu on it. |
| 15:21.39 | cstoner | g_: I don't know how to fix it, but you can always log in through console and kill the krunner_lock process to get back to your screen |
| 15:22.09 | cstoner | I've ran into the same problem :) |
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| 15:23.22 | g_ | ok |
| 15:23.24 | g_ | I just reboot |
| 15:23.31 | freeedrich| | g_: you need to install kde-base/kpasswdserver |
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| 15:24.20 | g_ | does anyone elses computer ever totally freeze up and crash with kubuntu intrepid ibex? |
| 15:24.28 | g_ | its been happening to me when i use alot of ram |
| 15:24.40 | g_ | like if i have firefox open with alot of tabs |
| 15:24.54 | g_ | no more than 10 tabs though |
| 15:25.03 | pinotree | freeedrich|: i doubt telling him (a kubuntu user) names of gentoo packages can help... |
| 15:25.08 | g_ | it will lock up and freeze and a light will blink on my laptop |
| 15:25.21 | pinotree | g_: #kubuntu for these problems |
| 15:25.32 | g_ | yea Im in there |
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| 15:26.28 | kevmatic | Hi, I'm using Konqueror 3.5.9. But for some reason, whenever I try to file browse, it takes away the navigation bar at the top, with the forward and back buttons |
| 15:26.37 | kevmatic | How can I shut that ogg? |
| 15:26.39 | kevmatic | off |
| 15:27.02 | arezey | kevmatic, it seems that the file browser and web browser use two toolbar layouts; right click -> toolbars -> put the back. |
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| 15:27.25 | arezey | and image viewer has a third one :D |
| 15:28.04 | kevmatic | Right click where? |
| 15:28.13 | arezey | on the place where the toolbars are supposed to be. |
| 15:28.40 | kevmatic | Well, that didn't work, but i found it in the menus |
| 15:29.16 | arezey | ok. |
| 15:29.20 | freeedrich| | pinotree: well, I believe searching for "kdepasswd" should have given something useful. |
| 15:29.23 | kevmatic | I think it didn't work becuase there were NO toolbars |
| 15:29.34 | arezey | heh :D |
| 15:29.49 | freeedrich| | And I like it how gentoo does its categories, it actually should help others to find their stuff, based on the information they got by category/name |
| 15:31.54 | arezey | gotta go -> |
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| 15:34.19 | pamcd | hi |
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| 15:35.03 | pamcd | someone knows which is the plan for kde4 in portage? when will it be stable |
| 15:35.22 | hal | hola |
| 15:35.26 | pinotree | pamcd: #gentoo-kde please |
| 15:35.33 | hal | alguien que hable español |
| 15:35.39 | pamcd | sorry, i went in the wrong window |
| 15:35.40 | hal | que escriba mejor |
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| 15:36.03 | hal | hello all the people |
| 15:36.07 | freeedrich| | hal: please stick to english here, or move to "# |
| 15:36.17 | freeedrich| | #kde.es (just guessing) |
| 15:36.37 | hal | what is stick |
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| 15:37.09 | hal | hello |
| 15:37.14 | hal | i need help |
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| 15:37.25 | pinotree | just tell what is the problem |
| 15:37.34 | hal | i need to go to chat in spanish |
| 15:37.49 | pinotree | type: /join #kde-es |
| 15:38.06 | hal | thanks pinotree |
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| 15:45.57 | g-hennux | so, in kde 4.2, where/how can i profit from the nepomuk indexing, exactly? |
| 15:46.12 | hal | hello |
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| 15:47.29 | ziggy | 1.nepomuk |
| 15:47.33 | ziggy | 2.? |
| 15:47.36 | ziggy | 3.profit |
| 15:47.56 | reavertm | krunner should use it for search |
| 15:48.19 | freeedrich| | and you can use nepomuksearch:/ kioslaves. |
| 15:48.27 | freeedrich| | where you can search by tags, artists and whatever. |
| 15:48.30 | freeedrich| | that is really need. |
| 15:48.42 | reavertm | freeedrich| is there any blog about nepomuk kioslaves? |
| 15:48.43 | freeedrich| | Since you can make a folderview display the content of such kioslave |
| 15:49.07 | freeedrich| | reavertm: yeah, some old one by Sebastian Trueg at kdedevelopers |
| 15:49.09 | pgega | is koffice 1.6.3 a 'part of' kde 4 or is it kde 3 ? |
| 15:49.22 | freeedrich| | pgega: rather 3 |
| 15:49.28 | freeedrich| | since it uses kdelibs:3 |
| 15:49.34 | genady12 | can someone help me to enable desktop effects? |
| 15:49.49 | freeedrich| | but it actually isn't part of kde, like amarok or kdenlive, or k3b and many others aren't either |
| 15:50.01 | pgega | freeedrich|, thanks ,that is what i though |
| 15:50.12 | vesuv | genady12: sure, what's the problem? |
| 15:52.22 | genady12 | vesuv, http://img47.imageshack.us/img47/8039/snapshot1tn9.png |
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| 15:53.12 | freeedrich| | genady12: try disabling the self check |
| 15:53.21 | vesuv | *nod |
| 15:53.22 | freeedrich| | and.. tell us what hardware you are ussing. |
| 15:53.22 | vesuv | * |
| 15:53.50 | genady12 | freeedrich|, how? |
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| 15:54.18 | freeedrich| | genady12: somewhere in the options |
| 15:54.19 | freeedrich| | yo Defense|Twin |
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| 15:54.30 | genady12 | freeedrich|, same error |
| 15:54.34 | freeedrich| | genady12: driver and hardware you are using please. |
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| 15:55.17 | cstoner | genady12: Are you a genady from Fort Collins? |
| 15:55.17 | genady12 | freeedrich|, nvidia ti4200 96.43.09 |
| 15:55.17 | Defense|Twin | freeedrich|: yo... i just noticed, that i had my machine running with ondemand cpu governor... |
| 15:55.18 | freeedrich| | ...and? |
| 15:55.29 | freeedrich| | genady12: umm. Does xrender work for you? |
| 15:55.40 | Defense|Twin | freeedrich|: was wondering about bad preformance in games.. |
| 15:55.45 | freeedrich| | I believe you might need to use a slightly newer driver, which has that pixmap stuff. |
| 15:55.50 | freeedrich| | ah :P |
| 15:57.19 | genady12 | cstoner, no |
| 15:57.28 | genady12 | freeedrich|, how to check? |
| 15:57.56 | freeedrich| | genady12: I refuse to help you. |
| 15:58.08 | cstoner | fair enough. I've only met/heard of one other genady. Thought I'd ask |
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| 15:59.16 | BtbN | Is there a way to unlock a locked KDE-Session without entering the password? e.g. calling a special dbus-method? |
| 15:59.44 | cstoner | BtbN: Killing the krunner_lock process will do it |
| 16:00.10 | BtbN | hm, seems very unclean |
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| 16:00.18 | freeedrich| | BtbN: but it works ;) |
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| 16:05.02 | BtbN | cstoner, does this work in KDE4? |
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| 16:05.29 | cstoner | BtbN: It does for me |
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| 16:16.17 | solifugus | How can I move my start button from the lower right to the lower left? (baby played with computer--wreaked havoc) |
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| 16:18.47 | MinceR | solifugus: rightclick panel, unlock panel, grab the k button at its drag bar, drag into place, release, rightclick panel, lock panel |
| 16:18.57 | MinceR | though if you have kde4, it might be different :) |
| 16:20.14 | solifugus | MinceR: I don't see a drag bar.. |
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| 16:20.51 | Nikty | how can i build graph in KSpread?? |
| 16:20.56 | MinceR | oh, it doesn't have one |
| 16:21.03 | MinceR | solifugus: drag it with middle button then |
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| 16:21.21 | solifugus | MinceR: that worked! thanks! |
| 16:21.26 | MinceR | yw |
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| 16:23.06 | l4m4_m4n | hello! help please kpdf doesn't open any pdf file, it says: kpdf: WARNING: Unknown mimetype 'text/plain'. |
| 16:23.35 | pinotree | kpdf opens pdf files, not text files ;) |
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| 16:24.30 | l4m4_m4n | Network Theory Ltd - An Introduction to GCC.pdf: PDF document, version 1.3 |
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| 16:24.57 | pinotree | what does `kfile thedocument.pdf`? |
| 16:25.59 | l4m4_m4n | pinotree: Network Theory Ltd - An Introduction to GCC.pdf: PDF Document (text/plain) |
| 16:25.59 | l4m4_m4n | -- /home/kama/Desktop/reading/books/c++pl/My C++ Books/Network Theory Ltd - An Introduction to GCC.pdf |
| 16:26.48 | l4m4_m4n | pinotree: this hapens after i tried to open another pdf file with text editor |
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| 16:27.30 | pinotree | with text editor?! |
| 16:28.04 | l4m4_m4n | pinotree: :) right |
| 16:28.29 | l4m4_m4n | pinotree: I was curious what it would show |
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| 16:29.01 | piiile | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:29.36 | BP{k} | you can do it, with using DCOP I believe. |
| 16:29.51 | piiile | DCOP: what's that? |
| 16:30.00 | piiile | !DCOP |
| 16:30.08 | pinotree | there's no ! bot here |
| 16:30.15 | pinotree | piiile: which kde version are you using? |
| 16:30.15 | piiile | i see ;) |
| 16:30.20 | piiile | 4.12 |
| 16:30.28 | piiile | nope... 4.1.3 |
| 16:30.30 | piiile | sry! |
| 16:30.36 | freeedrich| | then no dcop there. |
| 16:30.49 | freeedrich| | you'll need to use qdbus.. |
| 16:30.53 | l4m4_m4n | so, no help? |
| 16:31.22 | pinotree | l4m4_m4n: try that kfile command with another pdf document |
| 16:31.34 | pinotree | also, try that document with any other pdf viewer |
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| 16:32.41 | piiile | qdbus: whats that? seems to be an qt feature accrding to some google research |
| 16:32.44 | l4m4_m4n | pinotree: the same pdf file opens with acrobat reader |
| 16:33.02 | pinotree | and other documents? |
| 16:33.36 | l4m4_m4n | pinotree: all of them (pdf) |
| 16:33.41 | Jucato | piiile: a convenience tool that comes with Qt (which KDE uses) to simplify d-bus calls (if you've ever seen a regular d-bus call, you'll be grateful for qdbus) |
| 16:33.55 | Jucato | it's "syntax" is a lot like dcop |
| 16:34.03 | kriko | There are duplicated items for knotify and kcmnotify when reporting bugs via bugs.kde.org |
| 16:34.31 | pinotree | l4m4_m4n: i mean, any other .pdf document cannot be open with kpdf? |
| 16:34.42 | piiile | Jucato: any tipps where to start rtfm to accomplish logging off from kde via cli? |
| 16:35.16 | pinotree | qdbus org.kde.ksmserver /KSMServer logout 0 0 0, iirc |
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| 16:35.27 | pinotree | (please anybody with kde4 improve that command) |
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| 16:36.03 | l4m4_m4n | pinotree: right, no way to open any other document with kpdf |
| 16:36.07 | marko_d | piiile: you like to make kde exit with session autosave when you press the power button? |
| 16:36.31 | piiile | nope... I want to log off from my kde session via console |
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| 16:36.40 | pinotree | l4m4_m4n: try that kfile command with pdf documents |
| 16:37.44 | l4m4_m4n | pinotree: same thing with all of them |
| 16:37.56 | pinotree | how did you install kpdf? |
| 16:38.17 | piiile | this is for shutting down a single user computer remotely when you don't have root access (so shutdown -h doesn't work...) |
| 16:39.21 | piiile | as you can shutdown from kde without root password... |
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| 16:39.59 | l4m4_m4n | pinotree: together with k package |
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| 16:40.28 | pinotree | l4m4_m4n: does running `kbuildsycoca --noincremental` help? |
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| 16:40.47 | stoned | hey |
| 16:40.50 | stoned | you people |
| 16:40.53 | stoned | hello |
| 16:41.04 | stoned | I have installed 4.1.3 on debian sid |
| 16:41.09 | Steve14 | Is there any possiblity to resize plasma applets in 4.2 beta 2? |
| 16:41.10 | stoned | yay! |
| 16:41.13 | stoned | \o/ |
| 16:41.17 | stoned | <PROTECTED> |
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| 16:41.21 | stoned | \ |
| 16:41.26 | stoned | aww my leg b roke :( |
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| 16:41.56 | marko_d | piiile: qdbus org.kde.ksmserver /KSMServer logout 0 2 0 |
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| 16:42.14 | pinotree | thanks marko_d |
| 16:42.20 | marko_d | try that |
| 16:42.21 | piiile | thanks! I'll try that |
| 16:42.30 | stoned | hey |
| 16:42.41 | marko_d | pinotree: piiile np :) |
| 16:42.43 | stoned | when i did it i have to remove the kde3 all of it otherrwise dependency problem |
| 16:42.54 | stoned | now I try to play movies and kaffiene not fount |
| 16:43.01 | stoned | is there a video player in kdek4? |
| 16:43.11 | pinotree | dragonplayer |
| 16:43.15 | stoned | it comes with kde? |
| 16:43.16 | stoned | 4 |
| 16:43.32 | stoned | or is it 3rd party on kde-apps? |
| 16:43.44 | marko_d | http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Shutting_system_down_by_pressing_the_power_button anyway here is a good guide to power off the pc with better kde session support ... |
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| 16:44.07 | stoned | dragonnplayer is installed already |
| 16:44.20 | marko_d | piiile: stoop !!!!!!!!!1 |
| 16:44.24 | marko_d | don't try it yet |
| 16:44.39 | stoned | hey I I like fakkine can I install it from kde3 and it works ok? |
| 16:44.40 | stoned | pinotree, ? |
| 16:44.42 | marko_d | it might send a poweroff command |
| 16:44.46 | stoned | fakkine |
| 16:44.48 | stoned | er.. kaffine |
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| 16:44.52 | stoned | dang finters |
| 16:44.58 | stoned | OGJ!@ I give up! |
| 16:45.07 | pinotree | stoned: calm down, please. |
| 16:45.20 | stoned | I was calm then the keybord started to anger me |
| 16:45.27 | stoned | but I am again calm |
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| 16:46.35 | piiile | marko_d:ok... I'd have tried that with another testuser anyway... so my primary session would have prevented a poweroff (I guess...) |
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| 16:47.23 | marko_d | piiile: ok, i guess qdbus org.kde.ksmserver /KSMServer logout without the numbers would work ... |
| 16:47.38 | stoned | oh oh oho hoh I know why its not a dragonplayer issue its a problem in desktop effects |
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| 16:48.01 | stoned | I use radeon driver in debian (the free one) and when I used to enable compiz-confusion it used to make my video not playe |
| 16:48.15 | stoned | I make a desktop effect turn on in kde4 and now I got again black window in movie |
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| 16:48.27 | stoned | how to make video play nicely in kde with the desktop effects on? |
| 16:48.30 | l4m4_m4n | pinotree: thx for help. I found out what it is something wrong with my configuration file in .kde |
| 16:48.52 | piiile | marko_d: thanks a lot again! |
| 16:49.31 | pinotree | l4m4_m4n: oki |
| 16:49.38 | stoned | pinotree, you are expert do you know ? |
| 16:49.42 | pinotree | nope |
| 16:49.48 | stoned | video doesn't playback in kde4 with desktop effects on |
| 16:50.14 | stoned | there used to be a compiz-fusion plugin that says "video playback workaround" did you incorporate that into kde4? |
| 16:50.17 | freeedrich| | stoned: you are on intel, right? |
| 16:50.20 | stoned | i think thats why its not playing video |
| 16:50.27 | stoned | freeedrich|, radeon x190xtx free driver 'radeon' |
| 16:50.32 | freeedrich| | oh |
| 16:50.33 | stoned | x1900 |
| 16:50.45 | terr_ | how do I set up a region #4 CD burn with K3B? |
| 16:51.16 | Simkin | i don't think you can make regioned cds |
| 16:51.25 | Simkin | ?? |
| 16:51.31 | Simkin | i thought any cd you made was regionless. |
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| 16:52.50 | terr_ | Simkin: might be - I want to make a region CD |
| 16:53.24 | terr_ | then I'm going to take it in to best buy and ask the asholes to play it and show me how do do it. |
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| 16:53.34 | Steve14 | Does anybody here actually use 4.2 Beta 2? |
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| 16:54.49 | siegie | does anyone know the status of the firefox qt port |
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| 16:55.15 | kriko | Would it be hard to implement into 4.x a centralized tab settings? So all KDe applications would have same tab behaviour. https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=170004 |
| 16:55.18 | stoned | haha |
| 16:55.21 | stoned | best buy |
| 16:55.22 | stoned | good luck. |
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| 16:55.46 | terr_ | stoned: you damn right - then they can trash their own garbage |
| 16:56.21 | ABCD | is anyone else having problems getting the LCD Weather Station applet to work (KDE 4.1.85, kdeplasma-addons)? It won't let me select a data source |
| 16:56.37 | stoned | I dunno even how to use a kde4? |
| 16:56.38 | stoned | haha |
| 16:56.46 | stoned | I'm switching this morning from kde4.5 |
| 16:56.48 | stoned | 3.5 |
| 16:57.09 | terr_ | ABCD - probably because its -40 and Al Gore was hyping Global Warming and now wants to scare us with Global cooling... what an ass eh? |
| 16:57.30 | stoned | terr_, politics are offtopic here |
| 16:57.36 | stoned | terr_, ##politics |
| 16:57.42 | terr_ | stoned: how about science? |
| 16:57.54 | stoned | anything but KDE support and discussion is offtopic |
| 16:58.00 | stoned | you can try ##defocus |
| 16:58.02 | terr_ | no worries |
| 16:59.08 | Simkin | terr_: i think to make regioned cds you gotta encrypt them. I don't know if there is a way to do that. |
| 16:59.16 | Simkin | terr_: why doyou wanna waste your time at best buy anyhow? |
| 16:59.23 | stoned | Simkin, he won't :) |
| 16:59.53 | stoned | Best buy doesn't know anything, they'll hire anyone |
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| 16:59.58 | terr_ | Simkin: because I'm planning on takiung a machine to Chaing Mai in a few months then off to Oz and Nz and I'll face this issue. |
| 17:00.23 | parph | Hello, what is this little + sign on an icon in kde4 do? |
| 17:00.24 | Simkin | and? |
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| 17:01.34 | stoned | parph, i think it adds it to a desktop |
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| 17:03.10 | olivier | Hi, I would like to know if there is some patch to install for kde4 given that I have a Geforce 8600...thank you |
| 17:04.08 | Simkin | olivier: someone yesterday was saying to use the latest nvidia beta driver erson. .80 |
| 17:04.11 | Simkin | 180 |
| 17:04.13 | Simkin | something like that |
| 17:04.25 | terr_ | Simkin: http://www.ch4.marimex.com/blog/?p=52 |
| 17:04.31 | Simkin | i think 180.x.x |
| 17:04.37 | jazka | 180.16 |
| 17:05.10 | olivier | Simkin: that might fix my micro lag issues ?? |
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| 17:05.19 | Simkin | micro lag? |
| 17:05.35 | Simkin | dunno, just was rading that 180 fixes lots of performance problems. |
| 17:05.41 | jazka | it does |
| 17:05.57 | Simkin | but if you are getting weird stutters after that let me know, it might be something to do with your kernel. |
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| 17:07.02 | terr_ | Simkin: I need a computer with a DVD/CD burner/reader and I want to test the damn thing and make sure its gonna work... and I dont' want trash... so if the clerk can runb the thing throught its paces and show me its gonna work then I'll buy it... but not until! |
| 17:07.12 | olivier | Simkin: yes micro lags, I mean it's not smooth transition... |
| 17:07.17 | aoliveira | how i make the Konversation use the firefox instead konqueror? |
| 17:07.19 | Simkin | terr_: just get a ps3. |
| 17:07.36 | terr_ | Ps3? who makes em? |
| 17:07.36 | Simkin | terr_: they run linux and then you get a cell processor. |
| 17:07.40 | jazka | olivier: try the 180.16 driver |
| 17:07.41 | Simkin | terr_: plus you get blu ray. |
| 17:07.46 | Simkin | terr_: sony makes 'em |
| 17:08.05 | terr_ | Simkin: great. |
| 17:08.10 | Simkin | you don't know what a ps3 is? |
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| 17:08.24 | terr_ | Simkin: I'm still going to waste some time at best buy with a non-region #1 Cd and see them look stupid |
| 17:08.28 | aoliveira | http://www.kde.org/ |
| 17:08.48 | Simkin | if thta's how you want to spend your time |
| 17:09.13 | olivier | jazka: ok |
| 17:09.26 | aoliveira | where can i change the options to use the firefox instead konqueror on the konversation ? |
| 17:09.28 | terr_ | Simkin: that is just as much fun as taking fraud aretists to court |
| 17:09.39 | Simkin | not really |
| 17:09.51 | Simkin | see one is very effective, the other is not. |
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| 17:10.46 | terr_ | http://www.interhash2010.com/ <- Looks like beer in Africa! |
| 17:11.04 | aoliveira | how do i change the kde associations? |
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| 17:11.13 | pinotree | terr_: stoned told you already, please bring offtopic out of here (for example go to #kde-chat) |
| 17:11.23 | jazka | aoliveira: system settings -> default applications |
| 17:11.32 | pinotree | aoliveira: konversation has an option to change just its browser |
| 17:11.41 | aoliveira | pinotree: where? |
| 17:12.08 | pinotree | settings â configure konversation â behaviour |
| 17:12.23 | terr_ | pinotree: well - it would be nice if we could find out how to get international support for CD's and DVD's and be able to verify what actually works |
| 17:12.32 | olivier | jazka: well, obviously 180.16 does not support my graphic card 8600 MGT |
| 17:12.35 | pinotree | terr_: what does it have to do with kde? |
| 17:12.52 | aoliveira | pinotree: Miscelaneous | Custom Browser |
| 17:13.03 | aoliveira | pinotree: let me see it now |
| 17:13.26 | aoliveira | it's ok now |
| 17:13.29 | aoliveira | ty |
| 17:14.14 | terr_ | pinotree: I use KDE. I have been told there is an option to set a DVD to a region via the KDE control center. I don't see how this is done |
| 17:14.18 | aoliveira | is there some way to define firefox the default browser for kde? |
| 17:14.26 | pinotree | terr_: there's no such option anywhere |
| 17:14.53 | pinotree | aoliveira: kde control center â kde components â component chooser â web browser |
| 17:15.11 | terr_ | pinotree: then I was lied to last evening at Best Buy |
| 17:15.32 | jazka | olivier: it does |
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| 17:15.56 | olivier | jazka: I can't find it then... |
| 17:16.23 | jazka | http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=122606 |
| 17:16.26 | jazka | there |
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| 17:20.13 | aoliveira | pinotree: it doesnt semm work well using the component chooser |
| 17:20.27 | aoliveira | he try to launch a new firefox everytime |
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| 17:28.22 | CaptainGrc | hello,i am new linux user and i have problem with the wireless connection with the router..I cant set up the wireless adapter that i have..could anyone help??i have opensuse 11.0 |
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| 17:29.23 | c-101 | CaptainGrc: don't think this is the appropiate channel |
| 17:29.58 | CaptainGrc | and which channel is dude?? |
| 17:30.17 | c-101 | maybe #linux |
| 17:30.29 | CaptainGrc | thx |
| 17:30.43 | CaptainGrc | hello,i am new linux user and i have problem with the wireless connection with the router..I cant set up the wireless adapter that i have..could anyone help??i have opensuse 11.0 |
| 17:31.00 | c-101 | ¬¬ |
| 17:31.34 | Scorcerer | CaptainGrc: is it KDE problem, or maybe driver/wireless problem ? |
| 17:32.24 | Simkin | CaptainGrc: for help with wireless it's best to find support for your distribution. in your case try #suse ! |
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| 17:35.48 | CaptainGrc | Scorcerer: i don't know..I dont know what i have to do to set it up..I tried drom network devices but nothing.. |
| 17:35.52 | opensourcecat | can someone tell me how can i set kde to open a certain kind of URL from konqueror to another application (i want to open ed2k:// directly with kmldonkey)? |
| 17:35.57 | opensourcecat | is that possible? |
| 17:36.28 | Scorcerer | CaptainGrc: it's best for you to ask on #suse, maybe someone there had similiar problem |
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| 17:37.18 | CaptainGrc | ok thx |
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| 18:17.59 | Thoradin | hi |
| 18:18.16 | Thoradin | does anyone have working bluetooth within kde4? |
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| 18:19.20 | Thoradin | hcitool dev gives me (my) device and also "scan" brings some mobiles, but kbluetooth (the kde3 one) doesn't recognize the bluetoothdevice |
| 18:19.48 | Thoradin | i think kbluetooth4 is the same, cause the trayicon isn't even showin up |
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| 18:22.23 | stoned | I really really dislike kde4 |
| 18:22.25 | stoned | its horrible |
| 18:22.31 | stoned | it doesnt' make it easy for me to use, it makes it harder |
| 18:22.34 | Luyt | I'm just trying out KDE4 |
| 18:22.34 | stoned | kde3 FTW! |
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| 18:22.51 | Luyt | The trick is to make it usable again, like KDE3 is |
| 18:23.14 | stoned | I don't want to bother just yet |
| 18:23.19 | stoned | I'll wait until its more mature |
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| 18:23.22 | stoned | another year or two |
| 18:23.34 | stoned | then I'll try kde4, for now 3 is brilliant and the best yet |
| 18:23.49 | Luyt | Many docs are out of sync too |
| 18:23.58 | stoned | kde3 is the best kde yet.. until kde4 matures into solid desktop |
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| 18:24.09 | Luyt | KHelpCenter talks about konqueror being KDE4's file manager |
| 18:24.19 | stoned | heh |
| 18:24.22 | stoned | its olphin |
| 18:24.27 | stoned | dolphin* |
| 18:24.31 | Luyt | Yup, but the doc isn't updated yet |
| 18:24.43 | Luyt | Another reason to wait two, three years |
| 18:24.57 | pinotree | (five, ten, ...) |
| 18:25.24 | Luyt | It took Python twenty years to reach version 3, there is no haste |
| 18:25.43 | stoned | I had originally planned on using kde4 fulltime upon release of 4.5 or starting jan 1, 2010 |
| 18:25.46 | stoned | whichever came first |
| 18:26.04 | stoned | I think that is a better idea :) |
| 18:26.57 | Luyt | I still wonder what they were thinking when they made plasmoids rotateable... "Gee, a 145-degrees rotated plasmoid clock on the desktop, thats cool!" |
| 18:27.26 | Luyt | Does the KDE usability project still exist? Or have they left in frustration? |
| 18:27.45 | pinotree | the usability project exists |
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| 18:28.06 | stoned | what is a that pinotree ? |
| 18:28.09 | Luyt | I see in KDE4 also a lot of inconsistency between Ok/Apply/Cancel buttons on dialogs |
| 18:28.22 | stoned | Luyt, just need time on kde4 |
| 18:28.24 | Luyt | Some apps seem to favour them, some seem to avoid them |
| 18:28.37 | stoned | Luyt, just consider how long it took kde3 |
| 18:28.42 | stoned | just be patient! :) |
| 18:28.44 | aanderse | Luyt: link? |
| 18:28.55 | Luyt | stoned: You're right |
| 18:29.06 | Luyt | I'm a bit too harsh |
| 18:29.15 | stoned | frustration can do that |
| 18:29.21 | stoned | especially with computers/machines |
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| 18:30.28 | blip- | hi all, i've got some kind of problem with KDE wallpaper setter, i've configured it to use feh to set the wallpaper but sometimes it behaves strangely and doesn't change the wallpaper... i disabled feh now from the KDesktop advanced options... but it's still not changing the wallpaper... it's stuck on an old background |
| 18:30.59 | Luyt | stoned: I like KDE3 for its configurability, I feel like many options are taken away in KDE4 |
| 18:31.16 | pinotree | and others have been added |
| 18:31.20 | Luyt | As if they want to mimic OSX or Vista |
| 18:31.30 | stoned | Luyt, not taken away |
| 18:31.37 | stoned | Luyt, not implemented yet |
| 18:31.38 | c-101 | blip-: which version are you running ? |
| 18:31.39 | stoned | it will take time |
| 18:31.51 | stoned | over time kde4 will become as configurable as you want |
| 18:32.00 | Luyt | The intention to keep everything configurable is still alive and kicking? |
| 18:32.06 | stoned | Luyt, of course |
| 18:32.10 | Luyt | phews |
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| 18:32.17 | Luyt | Thats good news ;-) |
| 18:32.23 | stoned | nothing to worry about |
| 18:32.29 | stoned | we just need time |
| 18:32.31 | shepherd | it's just a from scratch projct I think. no where near completion :D |
| 18:32.42 | pinotree | notes nobdy said otherwise, FYI |
| 18:33.20 | stoned | pinotree, you're like Gandalf! |
| 18:33.34 | stoned | nobody knows what youu're talking about you speak in riddles! |
| 18:33.36 | stoned | hehehee |
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| 18:34.46 | Luyt | I'm now perusing the source to plasma/applets/digital-clock to see how a smaller font could be implemented... right now the size isn't configurable, but strectches to the available pasmoid space |
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| 18:37.08 | shepherd | How can I get icon plasmoids onto a 2nd panel ? |
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| 18:38.30 | Thoradin | bluetooth |
| 18:38.43 | Thoradin | sorry |
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| 18:39.06 | GuyFromHell | Is it a known bug that 4.2b2 can't use hotkeys like Alt-! (i.e. alt-shift-stuff) |
| 18:39.09 | Thoradin | now: anyone solved kde4 bluetooth |
| 18:39.12 | marco | i have an issue with kde 4.2 beta 2 |
| 18:39.27 | marco | on every startup kwallet opens and ask me to do the wizard |
| 18:39.39 | marco | i have checked in autostart, but there's nothing |
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| 18:42.22 | picca | anyone here find that youtube sucks in kde 3.5.10 - keeps freezing all the time |
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| 18:47.02 | alsadi | I'm trying to fix kchmviewer https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=477074 |
| 18:47.26 | alsadi | it does not look for locals, I added the missing line but it still does not look for them |
| 18:47.36 | alsadi | KLocale::setMainCatalogue( "kchmviewer" ); |
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| 18:47.57 | pinotree | alsadi: we don't develop nor provide support for kchmviewer |
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| 18:48.23 | alsadi | yes, but at least you know KLocale, I don't |
| 18:48.33 | alsadi | I only know gnu gettext |
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| 18:52.00 | alsadi | pinheiro: could you please point to kde documentation on doing i18n |
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| 19:03.40 | arussel | using kde4 on kubuntu with a us keyboard, how can I enter french and japanese character ? |
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| 19:15.13 | icheishvili | Hi, can anyone help me compile my tagging program against taglib? |
| 19:15.37 | alsadi | this page does not help < http://techbase.kde.org/Development/Tutorials/Localization/i18n |
| 19:15.42 | icheishvili | I'm including the headers and my autoconf scripts pass each time, but then when actually compiling, I get undefined reference errors |
| 19:16.07 | alsadi | it does not mention KLocale::setMainCatalogue |
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| 19:25.28 | arnoldk67 | Hello, how can I configure in KDE4 which icon is displayed for a specific file type, e. g. an odt file? I cannot change the icon within the configure dialog of the konqueror. |
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| 19:30.52 | _RedGhostBis_ | is there some kind of grid alignment for plasmoids in 4.2? |
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| 19:32.20 | _RedGhostBis_ | mine seem to get realigned whether I want it or not |
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| 19:35.37 | icheishvili | So in configure.ac, I have the AC_CHECK_TAGLIB macro--this should export $TAGLIB_LIBS and $TAGLIB_CFLAGS--but no matter where I append these (in configure.ac, or even Makefile.am), when actually building, they are not used |
| 19:35.58 | EvilGuru | I have just upgraded my Gentoo system from KDE 3.5.10 to KDE 4.1. However, I can not work out how to get the xinerma/TwinView support (if there is any) in KDE4. In KDE 3 I was able to tell 'kicker' what monitor to use etc, how is this done in 4? |
| 19:36.05 | tue | hello! i have just installed kde 4.2 beta 2 on kubuntu 8.10 using the method provided on kubuntu.org. However, im experiencing some very strange behavior: if i begin to interact with plasma, for example by using krunner, kde will refuse to admit keyboard input, and if i eg. left click on an application the application will not resieve the click event, instead the cursor changes into a "move window" cursor and i can reposition the window. I |
| 19:36.06 | tue | have tried to remove .kde and .kderc and restarted but no luck there. |
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| 19:36.39 | looonger | has the kde4.1 - nvidia problem already been fixed? |
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| 19:37.46 | jazka | looonger: with 180.16 it works pretty well |
| 19:37.46 | tue | I know its beta software so some funky behaviour is expected, but this is a bit to much :-). I would really like to get it working so i can help with bug reports. |
| 19:37.49 | heavenquake | I want dolphin do display image files' icons as previews. Is that possible? If so, how? |
| 19:38.03 | heavenquake | (4.1.3) |
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| 19:39.12 | icheishvili | ok, I got it--I needed to define my CPPFLAGS and LIBS after AC_CHECK_TAGLIB because that macro sets those up |
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| 19:44.28 | tue_ | Hey!. Im using kde 4.2 beta 2 on kubuntu 8.10. If i interact with certain plasma components, for example pres alt-tab, applications will no longer resieve keyboard input and mouse input is screwed up as well. i have tried to remove .kde and .kderc but no luck. i asked this question just a minute ago, but unfortunately i then tried to press alt-tab so if anyone answered i didnt get it :-( . Any help would be appreciated. |
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| 19:49.41 | shepherd | Is there a way to download from youtube for example in konqueror |
| 19:50.14 | arussel | is anyone using gmail in FF under kde4 ? |
| 19:50.39 | arussel | are the contacts properly shown ? |
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| 19:51.41 | jazka | arussel: yes |
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| 19:52.57 | ick | hi |
| 19:53.27 | ick | KDE sucks !! |
| 19:53.35 | shepherd | KDE is great.. |
| 19:53.51 | ick | it hangs regularly |
| 19:53.55 | arussel | jazka: using the new version of gmail, in the my contacts tab, where you can select people with checkbox, you can see the name of the people properly ? (mine the space for the checkbox and name is cut so I can't read the name of the people) |
| 19:54.05 | shepherd | Works better than anything I've ever used before.. |
| 19:54.34 | shepherd | ick: maybe your computer sucks, ive not had any hanging problems except on slow hardware |
| 19:54.38 | ick | they say it works fine with 32MB RAM.... lol ! |
| 19:54.43 | ick | mine is 640 ! |
| 19:54.56 | jazka | arussel: yea I can see the names properly |
| 19:55.43 | arussel | jazka: so the problem is neither kde nor FF. Where could be the problem ... |
| 19:55.47 | jazka | I'm on FF 3.1 b2 btw |
| 19:56.31 | arussel | maybe I should try to upgrade |
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| 19:57.05 | Anonycat | What ever happened to the zip:/ ioslave in KDE4? |
| 19:57.07 | jazka | but did it work in kde3? |
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| 19:58.01 | arussel | jazka: don't know I wasn't using gmail. I'll try on windowmaker at work. |
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| 20:01.01 | arussel | jazka: it looks great on 3.1.b2 |
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| 20:03.08 | jazka | ok |
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| 20:04.26 | Scorcerer | any1 got experience with kde4 on playstation3? |
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| 20:05.41 | xenon_ | Hello, I try since hours to import all data from MS exchange into kMail, but I find no "import". How can I do that, please? |
| 20:07.45 | xenon_ | Oh, I meant outlook... |
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| 20:10.51 | ikazmi2 | hi all |
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| 20:13.05 | ikazmi2 | i am using kde 4.2 beta 2 on kubuntu. |
| 20:13.37 | ikazmi2 | i added all the plasmoid repositories to my package lists |
| 20:14.07 | ikazmi2 | i can install plasmoids using apt-get install [plasmoid-name] |
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| 20:14.37 | ikazmi2 | but the plasmoids do not appear in th Add Widget dialog |
| 20:14.47 | ikazmi2 | anyone got any ideas? |
| 20:15.17 | Dan39 | hello. using kde 3 archlinux. when i plug in some usb storage devices(like my psp) they automount and a "kde daemon" window pops up, but i have a corsair usb thumb drive, and when i plug it in, everything seems to work fine, but it doesnt automount and nothing pops up |
| 20:16.08 | Dan39 | thought it was a problem with hal or something, but hal seems to be doing everything fine |
| 20:17.42 | Alexey | hello all :-)) |
| 20:17.53 | ikazmi2 | hi |
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| 20:18.37 | comawhite | hmm they need to come out with some new kde books |
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| 20:20.05 | alsadi | can any one point me to the source code of a KDE application that uses KLocale |
| 20:20.20 | alsadi | link to the web svn or something like that |
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| 20:22.08 | SSJ_GZ | alsadi: Take your pick ;) http://lxr.kde.org/ident?i=KLocale |
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| 20:30.24 | alsadi | SSJ_GZ: why check if lang is empty ? in http://lxr.kde.org/source/KDE/kdebase/runtime/kcmshell/main.cpp#191 |
| 20:30.39 | SSJ_GZ | alsadi: Don't ask me :) |
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| 20:33.52 | arnoldk67 | Hello, how can I configure in KDE4 which icon is displayed for a specific file type, e. g. an odt file? I cannot change the icon within the configure dialog of the konqueror. |
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| 20:40.06 | fleetcommand | good afternoon :) |
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| 20:40.37 | Thoradin | hey, anyone know how to activate sdp in os11.1 |
| 20:40.40 | rniamo | hi, which soft can play a playlist of videos (for kde)? |
| 20:41.09 | heavenquake | rniamo: kaffeine? |
| 20:41.44 | Thoradin | @miamo vlc, too |
| 20:41.45 | rniamo | ok i look at |
| 20:41.47 | rniamo | thanks |
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| 20:43.28 | heavenquake | Thoradin: oh, yeah, VLC is QT now, forgot about that |
| 20:43.56 | rniamo | i can't under kubuntu |
| 20:44.02 | rniamo | there is a problem with vlc-nox |
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| 20:46.22 | ruxpin_ | hi - ubuntu upgraded kate to kde4-version |
| 20:46.41 | ruxpin_ | now autocomplete (amongst several other minor things) is broken |
| 20:46.50 | ruxpin_ | the tick box is enabled |
| 20:47.18 | ruxpin_ | it says kate is 3.1 using kdelibs 4.1.3 |
| 20:47.59 | ruxpin_ | the old kde3-version used strings from the open document for autocompletion |
| 20:48.07 | ruxpin_ | now it doesn't |
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| 20:51.12 | l4m4_m4n | do somebody know how to hide klipper? |
| 20:51.18 | EvilGuru | Am I correct in assuming that KDE4 has no Xinerama support (well TwinView, so fake Xinerama)? |
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| 20:52.56 | gkiagia | l4m4_m4n: close it, it's an application :) (but why would you like to do that?) |
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| 20:54.32 | l4m4_m4n | gkiagia: I want to keep it open but to hide. is it possible? |
| 20:54.59 | gkiagia | EvilGuru: not correct, but afaik there are some bugs with xinerama/twinview/whatever that should be addressed in 4.2 (afaik) |
| 20:55.09 | l4m4_m4n | gkiagia: it's good for copy paste |
| 20:55.17 | gkiagia | l4m4_m4n: which kde version? |
| 20:55.22 | l4m4_m4n | 3.5 |
| 20:55.41 | EvilGuru | gkiagia: Okay, as currently the 'kicker' bar is stuck to one screen and the Desktop panel sees one 3200x1200 screen |
| 20:55.53 | gkiagia | l4m4_m4n: it is possible to configure the system tray to hide certain icons |
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| 20:56.36 | l4m4_m4n | gkiagia: ok, thx |
| 20:56.43 | l4m4_m4n | didn't know that |
| 20:56.51 | gkiagia | EvilGuru: kde 4.1 I guess? |
| 20:56.54 | EvilGuru | Yep |
| 20:57.04 | gkiagia | yep, known issues |
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| 20:58.20 | EvilGuru | Also sftp:// in Dolphin doesn't seem to do anything (it asked me to verify the key the first time, but nothing after that) |
| 20:58.35 | gkiagia | afaik the plasma team is/was having a dual-screen "fixathon" these days, so I hope they will solve these problems |
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| 20:58.48 | EvilGuru | (scp works fine, however) |
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| 20:58.55 | EvilGuru | gkiagia: Excellent |
| 20:58.56 | gkiagia | sftp works fine here |
| 20:59.11 | ninjaslim | i'm having trouble getting effects to work in KDE 4.1.1 using opengl, i have an intel GMA950 and i'm running freebsd, i'm using the intel driver, which options do i need in xorg.conf (composite and ARGBGLX right?) |
| 20:59.13 | EvilGuru | I tried running from the command line but didn't get any useful output |
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| 20:59.36 | EvilGuru | Still, good job, it seems really nice so far |
| 21:01.18 | gkiagia | EvilGuru: btw, there is also fish:// (works like sftp:/) |
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| 21:01.52 | EvilGuru | lets try |
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| 21:02.39 | EvilGuru | Nope, same, seems to be connected, just has not asked for any info |
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| 21:03.12 | gkiagia | maybe it's some problem with the connection or the server |
| 21:03.31 | EvilGuru | Server is fine (currently scp'ing from it and ssh'ed in from this system) |
| 21:04.00 | gkiagia | and what url do you give? fish://user@host ? |
| 21:04.20 | EvilGuru | yep |
| 21:04.30 | gkiagia | strange... |
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| 21:06.57 | alsadi | is this file support i18n despite that it does not call KLocale nor do a KGlobal::setLocale < http://techbase.kde.org/Development/Tutorials/Using_KXmlGuiWindow#Back_to_main.cpp |
| 21:09.08 | gkiagia | alsadi: yes, afaik KApplication does all the required job for you |
| 21:09.38 | gkiagia | alsadi: you'd better ask in #kde-devel such questions, you will get better answers :) |
| 21:09.58 | alsadi | gkiagia: OH thanks |
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| 21:10.53 | looonger | while waiting for konversation-kde4 i've installed quasel and it's quite nice |
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| 21:12.00 | gcw | does anyone know if/where KDM logs errors for "secure remote connection" attempts that fail? |
| 21:12.29 | gkiagia | guesses /var/log/kdm.log |
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| 21:14.13 | EvilGuru | looonger: I am planning to switch to it (I know the lead dev, nice guy) |
| 21:14.16 | gcw | hrmm.. |
| 21:14.42 | gcw | no luck there but thanks.. gkiagia |
| 21:15.16 | looonger | I've been using it for 5 minutes already |
| 21:15.34 | looonger | this is just my first impression, which is good :) |
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| 21:17.55 | Simkin | 108 of 254! |
| 21:17.58 | Simkin | kde is almost ready for me! |
| 21:18.37 | looonger | Simkin: what 254? |
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| 22:17.56 | Kwirte | Using kde4.1.3 and gentoo.I'm missing the preview of ttf-files. Any hint what I missed to install? |
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| 22:23.19 | shepherd | Do I have to do something special to kopete to get my webcam to work ? |
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| 22:29.11 | amigo | hi ppl! where I can get help about quanta+? I need to upload my project via ftp. But "ftp" not pressent in upload profile. kio_ftp are pressent in system usr/lib/kde3/kio_ftp.la usr/lib/kde3/kio_ftp.so. Thank's. |
| 22:30.25 | freeedrich| | manual work? |
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| 22:31.23 | xenol | freeedrich|: it's called laziness :P |
| 22:31.54 | DaSkreech | shepherd: Not sure ask in #kopete as well |
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| 22:32.17 | freeedrich| | xenol: ahh, that thing :) |
| 22:32.33 | shepherd | DaSkreech: Okay, thanks. |
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| 22:33.26 | amigo | not laziness :-/ |
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| 22:55.09 | EvilGuru | Does OpenOffice have KDE4 integration (well Qt4 I guess)? |
| 22:58.19 | dissociative | I have a little problem I cannot run kde apps using my personal user account from now I have kde 3.5.9, they seem to run fine if I log as another users |
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| 23:12.42 | PhrkOnLsh | dissociative: do they run from konsole? |
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| 23:14.51 | dissociative | no, |
| 23:15.08 | dissociative | looks like I solved the problem now by running kbuildsycoca |
| 23:15.11 | PhrkOnLsh | dissociative: with what error if any? |
| 23:15.16 | PhrkOnLsh | oh, yeah that helps |
| 23:15.26 | PhrkOnLsh | dissociative: did you disable config check at login? |
| 23:15.37 | dissociative | I dont run KDE as DE |
| 23:16.09 | dissociative | I use fluxbox and then run konqueror from a xterm and other stuff |
| 23:16.09 | PhrkOnLsh | oh |
| 23:16.21 | PhrkOnLsh | dunno then ^_^ |
| 23:16.30 | PhrkOnLsh | maybe add it as a fluxbox login script (if you can) |
| 23:17.02 | tue | hey, i got some really funky behaviour from kde 4.2 beta2. if i eg. press alt-tab, nothing happends except applications can no longer resieve keyboard and mouse input. the buttons in the window decorations still work though. i have tried to remove .kde and .kderc but no luck there. |
| 23:18.38 | DaSkreech | tue: Compositing on? |
| 23:19.56 | tue | mm. if i run fglrxinfo it reports errors and i dont have any desktop effects on. |
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| 23:20.30 | tue | (i think upgrading from kubuntu 8.04 -> 8.10 broke it. it used to work) |
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| 23:36.27 | syke | I just updated my kubuntu to the latest 4.2 packages, and just got a plasma crash when resuming my laptop from standby: http://www.pastebin.ca/1290455 |
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| 23:41.50 | luke-jr | syke: I'm not sure this is the channel for problems with unreleased stuff. |
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| 23:44.52 | kassel | hi |
| 23:44.56 | kassel | everyone |
| 23:45.09 | kassel | i've got one question |
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| 23:45.25 | kassel | need something to compile qt4 under my new sabayon? |
| 23:45.32 | kassel | thanks |
| 23:48.51 | DaSkreech | syke: Oh hai |
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